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| 00:03.27 | _unreall | I guess skyp was sorry he quit ;) |
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| 00:07.23 | rg | new debian install... ifconfig doesn't work. I set an IP, it vanishes a few minutes later. I'm guessing some crap is trying to fuck with the interface, not paying attention that something else is changing it, and being idiotic. what is it, and why the hell is broken the default? |
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| 00:08.52 | war_w | what happens you try ifconfig ? |
| 00:09.07 | rg | the network works for a few minutes, then stops. |
| 00:09.14 | Obi-Wan | rg: what do you mean with "it vanishes"? Do you get a new IP? Or is the interface just reconfigured and without IP? |
| 00:09.20 | war_w | whats the output of ifconfig -a ? |
| 00:09.25 | rg | no IP anymore. |
| 00:09.42 | rg | war_w: the interface no longer has an IP set. |
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| 00:10.09 | war_w | try editing the network config file in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 00:10.12 | Obi-Wan | but the interface is still up, right? |
| 00:10.17 | rg | yes |
| 00:10.20 | war_w | then /etc/init.d/networking restart |
| 00:10.21 | jhonMark | hey guys, i just installed wheezy in my intel haswell, and the cursor is flickering and I cant get gnome shell, I upgraded to the bpo kernel (3.14) I can run glxgears and glxinfo and it seems to have hardware acceleration, I also upddated linux-firmware just in case |
| 00:10.37 | war_w | nano or vi will work fine. |
| 00:10.54 | war_w | I.e. nano /etc/network/interfaces |
| 00:10.59 | rg | war_w eth0 isn't even mentioned in there, which means it shouldn't be doing anything with it. |
| 00:11.11 | war_w | hmm |
| 00:11.15 | war_w | firstly try ifconfig eth0 up |
| 00:11.18 | Obi-Wan | how are you providing the IP for eth0? |
| 00:11.24 | jhonMark | back in the day I did a frankenbian mixing whezy, jessie and sid, but then I have other problems(with virtual box) so IDK, what do you think? |
| 00:11.32 | Obi-Wan | is it static or dhcp? |
| 00:11.33 | war_w | then open up the networking file. |
| 00:11.45 | rg | ah. looks like I have some crap named NetworkManager running. I did a ps ax | grep net, but it didn't catch the initial uppercase... |
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| 00:12.29 | Obi-Wan | true, but if I remember, networkmanager will ignore interfaces configured at /etc/network/interfaces |
| 00:12.42 | rg | ... and NetworkManager's man page is roughly worthless. |
| 00:12.56 | war_w | do you need networkmanager ? |
| 00:13.01 | war_w | :) |
| 00:13.36 | rg | the _entire_ man page for nm-tool is "The nm-tool utility provides information about NetworkManager, device, and wireless networks.". that's it. |
| 00:14.19 | Obi-Wan | how are you going to use that interface? |
| 00:14.21 | rg | and it ignores both -? and --help. |
| 00:14.30 | rg | connecting to my lan |
| 00:14.41 | war_w | are you using a static ip or dhcp? |
| 00:14.41 | jhonMark | wpa_supplicant?(IDK what are you guys talking about, but when I dont want to install nm I use that "directly") |
| 00:14.43 | Obi-Wan | I mean: a desktop PC? server? |
| 00:14.51 | Obi-Wan | notebook? |
| 00:15.26 | jhonMark | ifup? |
| 00:15.30 | rg | why the hell is software no man page, no configuration information, that breaks standard tools, installed by default? |
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| 00:16.24 | war_w | umm, apt-get remove network-manager |
| 00:16.24 | Obi-Wan | I'm not sure it's installed by default |
| 00:16.24 | Zealot1 | Hi all! Can you advise me a programm to check hash (md5, sha1,sha256, etc) on debian with GUI? |
| 00:16.27 | jhonMark | rg yeah :( |
| 00:16.41 | rg | I sure didn't install it. heh. |
| 00:16.44 | Obi-Wan | I installed two instances this weekend and none has network-manager installed |
| 00:17.01 | rg | it was either part of the base install, or dragged in as a dependency for something. |
| 00:17.14 | Obi-Wan | maybe as a dependency, that's right |
| 00:17.25 | jhonMark | Obi-Wan: any of those happens to be a intel haswell? :P |
| 00:17.40 | Obi-Wan | anyway, if this is a "server-like" machine, just remove the package |
| 00:17.49 | Obi-Wan | and configure the interface at /etc/network/interfaces |
| 00:18.03 | rg | yes, that's what I'm doing now. |
| 00:18.07 | jhonMark | I don't really want to go testing :( |
| 00:18.09 | rg | broken should NOT be the default, however. |
| 00:18.26 | war_w | Hmm, I dont think its default. |
| 00:18.37 | Obi-Wan | war_w: agree |
| 00:18.46 | war_w | probably was installed under the laptop selection. |
| 00:19.15 | Obi-Wan | jhonMark: no, sorry |
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| 00:19.28 | Obi-Wan | only one Pentium IV and an Intel Atom |
| 00:19.30 | jhonMark | Obi-Wan: thanks brow :( |
| 00:20.48 | jhonMark | seems like I have to go testing, daily updates and stuff :( :'( |
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| 00:21.07 | Obi-Wan | well, maybe it's some problem with the graphic driver for Xorg |
| 00:21.24 | jhonMark | I think is mesa |
| 00:21.36 | Obi-Wan | check if there's anything at Debian's bug tracker |
| 00:21.44 | rg | iface eth0 inet static address 192.168.3.123 netmask 255.255.255.0 did I make some stupid typo I don't see, or is that correct? (three lines) didn't help, even with /etc/init.d/networking restart. |
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| 00:22.16 | war_w | wheres your gateway and broadcast ? :) |
| 00:22.38 | war_w | gateway 192.168.3.1 (just a guess) |
| 00:22.44 | war_w | broadcast 192.168.3.255 |
| 00:23.04 | war_w | did you restart networking? |
| 00:23.12 | rg | if brings it up, but it gets clobbered again. |
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| 00:23.25 | war_w | I.e. /etc/init.d/networking restart ? |
| 00:23.29 | rg | it has no gateway |
| 00:23.37 | rg | <rg> ... +even with /etc/init.d/networking restart. |
| 00:23.45 | war_w | ok, well do a system reboot. |
| 00:23.54 | war_w | see if that helps, having saved the networking file. |
| 00:23.55 | Obi-Wan | did you already remove network-manager? |
| 00:24.11 | war_w | apt-get remove network-manager |
| 00:24.13 | rg | .. that is not the right answer to anything but a kernel change, and I think I've heard new kernels can hot-replace themselves since 2.6.something... |
| 00:24.27 | rg | bbl, time to go to work. project for later. |
| 00:24.41 | war_w | that should* be tru but I ran into an issue which required a reboot a few weeks back. |
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| 00:25.10 | Obi-Wan | rg: try to check for installed network-manager packages |
| 00:25.24 | Obi-Wan | (dpkg -l and grep should help) |
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| 00:26.05 | rg | yeah, looks like network manager isn't dead... I'll kill it harder later, and then think about filing a bug report about anything that breaks networking not being installed automatically! |
| 00:26.05 | rg | bbl |
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| 00:26.50 | war_w | seeya |
| 00:27.08 | Obi-Wan | rg: remember what war_w said |
| 00:27.17 | rg | a daemon that breaks standard tools, ignores standard configuration files, and clobbers everything, should only be installed explicitly... |
| 00:27.34 | Obi-Wan | if you selected the laptop package group... then it's normal if you get network-manager installed |
| 00:28.04 | Obi-Wan | for me I can say network-manager was not installed with groups ssh server, base tools and desktop |
| 00:28.16 | rg | yes, I selected the laptop package. it's called "laptop", not "unable to connect to any network unless you figure out how to configure a daemon with NO MAN PAGES and no -? or --help". |
| 00:28.32 | rg | I can't imagine laptop users being happy about this. |
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| 00:28.53 | Obi-Wan | do you have a GUI on your laptop? |
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| 00:29.10 | rg | x, icewm... |
| 00:29.10 | Obi-Wan | that's because network-manager is configured with GUI tools |
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| 00:29.32 | Obi-Wan | it's more flexible than configuring /etc/network/interfaces or using ifconfig |
| 00:29.46 | Obi-Wan | you can define different profiles |
| 00:30.09 | Obi-Wan | for different ethernet networks, wifi networks, VPNs and so on |
| 00:30.26 | rg | if there's any tools for it installed, I don't see them in a quick check of icewm's menus... |
| 00:30.51 | Obi-Wan | I don't use icewm, so I'm not sure about the tool to use network-manager with it |
| 00:31.01 | jhonMark | does icewm menus even autoupdate? |
| 00:31.09 | rg | icewm is a window manager, like any other window manager. it's not a desktop environment. |
| 00:31.12 | p_lane | rg, 'aptitude why network-manager' |
| 00:31.20 | rg | jhon: yes |
| 00:31.32 | rg | debian manages menus for window managers nicely. |
| 00:31.56 | rg | bbl, now 7 minutes late for work. |
| 00:31.57 | jhonMark | rg: thats nice |
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| 00:32.19 | Obi-Wan | maybe you can take the network manager applet from gnome |
| 00:32.37 | jhonMark | !dpkg nm-applet |
| 00:32.52 | Obi-Wan | network-manager-gnome |
| 00:32.54 | jhonMark | its been a while, I forgot how to use the bot :( |
| 00:32.58 | Obi-Wan | (if it's not already installed) |
| 00:33.35 | Zealot1 | Hi all! Can you advise me a programm to check hash (md5, sha1,sha256, etc) on debian with GUI? |
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| 00:35.15 | Obi-Wan | Zealot1: gtkhash? |
| 00:35.55 | jhonMark | md5sum? |
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| 00:36.14 | Zealot1 | thank you, o Jedi Master! |
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| 00:36.27 | Zealot1 | and you too, random guy |
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| 00:36.45 | Obi-Wan | well, md5sum is text |
| 00:36.56 | Obi-Wan | of course you can just run a console and then use md5sum |
| 00:37.22 | Obi-Wan | but if you want something with GUI interface, then gtkhash |
| 00:37.51 | pankgeorg | Hello everyone, I am trying to install YAP 6.2 from backports but apt-get says I already got it. Any ideas? I just successfully installed SWI-Prolog 6.6.6 |
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| 01:11.06 | ruukasu | does anyone know why assaultcube is in contrib? |
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| 01:11.17 | ruukasu | the website claims it's released under "a zlib-like license" |
| 01:11.54 | jiohdi | help! I un-installed FISH and now I have no su or sudo access get msg saying cannot find /bin/fish |
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| 01:13.52 | jiohdi | anyone know how to get around this? |
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| 01:15.17 | ruukasu | jiohdi: how to get around lack of root access? |
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| 01:16.09 | ruukasu | greetings comrade |
| 01:16.20 | jiohdi | yeah |
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| 01:16.29 | jiohdi | I have access to yakuake |
| 01:16.39 | jiohdi | but it will not grant me su or sudo |
| 01:18.17 | jiohdi | is there a way I can use a run command to run sh? |
| 01:18.39 | ruukasu | you could boot a live usb or disk and root the install on the hard drive |
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| 01:19.05 | jiohdi | what does that mean, root the install? |
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| 01:19.14 | ruukasu | give yourself root |
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| 01:19.39 | jiohdi | then what? |
| 01:19.43 | ruukasu | as security people say, "physical access is root access" |
| 01:19.45 | ruukasu | then you have root |
| 01:19.58 | jiohdi | how does that help? |
| 01:20.08 | ruukasu | isn't that what you want? |
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| 01:20.37 | jiohdi | having root on a live does not allow me to change apps on the hard drive, does it? |
| 01:21.29 | ruukasu | no no. you use the root you have on the live cd to modify the install on the hard drive |
| 01:21.48 | ruukasu | (to give yourself root there) |
| 01:22.19 | ruukasu | http://unixlab.blogspot.com/2009/08/reset-root-password-with-live-cd.html |
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| 01:24.52 | adh0c | Stupid question that my google-fu is failing on: does unattended-upgrades/squeeze support wildcards in its blacklist function? |
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| 01:32.29 | thoonai | heyho |
| 01:32.30 | thoonai | I'm a bit stuck, kerberos won't start and wont set up my realm |
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| 01:34.05 | thoonai | and ssh-server deinstalled itself o.O |
| 01:34.18 | thoonai | yesterday I connected to my debian machin via ssh |
| 01:34.49 | thoonai | and today I had to install openssh-server because it cast a "connection refused port 22" |
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| 01:35.20 | thoonai | is it even posible, that debian uninstall software on itself? |
| 01:36.17 | thoonai | would be wonderful, if someone could help me :] |
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| 01:40.56 | TJ- | thoonai: check the logs, "/var/log/apt/" I think |
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| 01:51.23 | thoonai | TJ-:ok, I looked into the ../apt/history.log but openssh-server never was uninstalled |
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| 01:52.04 | hooligan132 | the number 1.0 hoooligan has landed :D |
| 01:52.26 | thoonai | TJ-: though it wasnt accessible and reinstalling succeeded |
| 01:52.42 | TJ- | thoonai: it may have been stopped and never restarted |
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| 01:55.00 | thoonai | TJ-: I restarted it with service ssh restart, but it layed dead and did nothing |
| 01:55.07 | hooligan132 | Hooligan OS 1.0 ... where gui apps launch in a controlled and sensible fasion of there window managers auto app launch initilisation horse shit.. with out causing said apps to crash into each other at nano second resolution :D |
| 01:55.32 | jpleau | is there a way to install something with apt-get install, and at the same time mark everything that's installed as auto? So they get removed with autoremove right after? |
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| 01:55.38 | karlpinc | thoonai: Yes, the logs are your friend. See the system logs. and /var/log/daemon.log FWIW, kerberos is very senstive to the time. Perhaps you should run ntp if you find the time skewed. |
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| 01:56.56 | thoonai | karlpinc: I'm right now reinstalling the vm |
| 01:57.17 | thoonai | so I can start with a fresh vm |
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| 01:57.47 | karlpinc | thoonai: That's a bit radical. But ok. I like to find out what went wrong so I can be sure it does not happen again.... |
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| 01:59.45 | hooligan132 | do we really need a another distribution? |
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| 02:00.08 | hooligan132 | hooligan OS will just demonstrate big bugs.com |
| 02:00.14 | thoonai | karlpinc: I make a snapshot of the reinstalled vm and explore it for the next time ;) |
| 02:00.25 | thoonai | I have to set up dns/kerberos and then ldap |
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| 02:00.44 | thoonai | I'm a bit frustrated it works so slowly |
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| 02:03.34 | hooligan132 | HooliganOS |
| 02:03.45 | hooligan132 | like macOS |
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| 02:04.01 | thoonai | ? difference==null? |
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| 02:04.47 | hooligan132 | lools well yeah probably considering the hooligan OS is just a platform of proof |
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| 02:05.33 | hooligan132 | Proof of hooliganisim inside distributions |
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| 02:05.54 | ros | hooligan132: I think ViaDOS would be a nicer name. |
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| 02:08.37 | hooligan132 | ViaDos? |
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| 02:11.25 | hooligan132 | if wine was better we could terrorize windows more inside hooligan os |
| 02:11.52 | ros | hooligan132: or CoitOS if you prefer. |
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| 02:14.00 | ros | Wine? I prefer it red; before, during and after meals. |
| 02:14.19 | hooligan132 | specialized wine of course |
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| 02:15.00 | hooligan132 | just like hooliOS which is better then macos btw.. but yeah with hooli you autmatically find any flaws in other distributions with a scanner |
| 02:15.06 | hooligan132 | lool |
| 02:15.08 | hooligan132 | :) |
| 02:15.56 | ros | Specialized on making people drunk, yep. |
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| 02:17.58 | ros | hooligan132: oh, you mean I have to scan my CDs with my Canon using hooli's own version of sane? |
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| 02:20.03 | hooligan132 | yeah why not lol |
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| 02:20.09 | hooligan132 | encrypt mp3 |
| 02:20.11 | hooligan132 | fuck it |
| 02:21.18 | ros | I don't use to appreciate those necrophiliac phantasies. |
| 02:22.30 | hooligan132 | also a great feature of hooligan OS is it comes with firefox which has this latest cross domain security policy that prevents content type audio/mpeg from being a accesable http resource to javascript |
| 02:23.52 | hooligan132 | actually chrome did that in the latest C5 MINI phone from I can gather as well |
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| 02:24.45 | ros | hooligan132: where are you from? |
| 02:25.03 | hooligan132 | brand new been out less then 4 months comes with chrome updates to chrome 34 or some crap and they still butchered html5 audio :) |
| 02:25.35 | hooligan132 | London |
| 02:26.22 | ros | Probably it's 3:30AM there, aren't you sleepy? |
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| 02:26.53 | hooligan132 | will be hitting the hay soon ;) |
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| 02:28.12 | ros | hooligan132: have a nice work ;) |
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| 02:31.57 | ros | Now I hope to have good dreams, my ex gf (not the reverse of the inverse of bg) tormented my night. |
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| 02:34.11 | linuxfool | hi all |
| 02:34.23 | ros | dobro noc linuxfool |
| 02:34.27 | hooligan132 | big pimping dreams .. just like hooligan os that does not feature such diabolical schemes |
| 02:35.42 | linuxfool | I was able to use a bloomberg terminal for the first time a few days ago and I love how quick it is to move around because of the numbered menus. Is there any distro out there with a similar look and feel to using a bloomberg? |
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| 02:42.07 | rryoumaa | linuxfool: you might want to choose by desktop or window manager, or choose emacs, or choose a file manager, and not a distro. debian has a lot of all of those. |
| 02:42.48 | rryoumaa | or vim, which doubtless has at least one file manager and so on |
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| 02:44.31 | hooligan132 | I am the the water boss :) |
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| 02:46.00 | hooligan132 | kindly park your boi neatly next to ours ;) |
| 02:46.09 | hooligan132 | enoguh said |
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| 02:49.33 | hooligan132 | more like a Prelude but yes park it nicely and ever one lives happily ever after ;/ |
| 02:53.19 | rg | back from work... "ou may configure these settings using a GUI by launching nm-connection-editor which currently (13.11.23) isn't to be found in System Tools â Administration menu, rather it must be launched by hand from the command line." and that would be why it's not in icewm's menus. |
| 02:53.43 | rg | so a program that breaks networking is installed by default, that can only be managed with a gui, and no new-user-friendly mention of said gui is provided. |
| 02:55.01 | rg | s/by default/by default if you select certain tasks |
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| 02:55.54 | rg | oh well, it's killed now... but this waste of time should not have happened, and no program with the flaws it has (like no manpages) should be shipped, much less installed automatically.. |
| 02:56.06 | hooligan132 | rikes |
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| 02:56.37 | hooligan132 | i think i have actually been down that road rg |
| 02:56.42 | NoTicesword | bazhang, i will kill you one day, suck my dick, suck my dick, lolololol |
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| 02:58.02 | NoTicesword | bazhang, i will kill you one day, suck my dick, suck my dick, lolololol |
| 02:58.21 | Eduard_Munteanu | !ops |
| 02:58.22 | dpkg | Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. Operators can also be contacted in the #debian-ops channel. |
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| 02:58.44 | Eduard_Munteanu | dpkg: ops spam from NoTicesword |
| 02:58.44 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: eduard_munteanu complains about: spam from NoTicesword |
| 02:58.58 | NoTicesword | motherfuckerr |
| 02:59.25 | NoTicesword | bazhang, i will kill you one day, suck my dick, suck my dick, lolololol |
| 02:59.41 | hooligan132 | NoTicesword silence bitch |
| 02:59.52 | rg | ohh, the troll has learned how to use his up arrow! |
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| 02:59.59 | NoTicesword | you are whores son |
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| 03:00.47 | mentor | hooligan132: Don't feed them |
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| 03:03.13 | rg | hands the hooligan a much-more-appropriate length of chain instead |
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| 03:04.26 | rg | seriously needs to find a nick completion script, and wonders why epic still doesn't have it by default |
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| 03:05.43 | hooligan132 | swings off the chandaliers |
| 03:05.54 | hooligan132 | via chain |
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| 03:07.35 | rg | no, no... you need to ride a motorcycle while swinging the chain wildly at bystanders and storefronts. you know, proper hooliganism! |
| 03:08.35 | hooligan132 | exactly proper give them the chain! |
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| 03:08.55 | karlpinc | Methinks the topic is drifting off... |
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| 03:21.45 | ranbato | If one is using Testing, is it possible to install a package from Stable without breaking anything? |
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| 03:23.01 | ranbato | note: the package is not in Testing's repository |
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| 03:23.46 | rg_ | it is often possible, but not always. |
| 03:24.14 | rg_ | the stable package might depend on an older library that conflicts with some part of testing, for example. |
| 03:24.52 | karlpinc | ranbato: It's generally eaiser to go the other way, installing backports of newer stuff (either via the backports repo or by self-backporting) on an older debian. |
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| 03:25.41 | ranbato | I'd rather avoid backports, so that when the package is added back in, I can then upgrade it to Testing? |
| 03:26.53 | karlpinc | ranbato: Backports are supported, installing older packages into a newer debian not so much. Beware of Frankendebian! |
| 03:26.57 | karlpinc | !frankendebian |
| 03:26.57 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
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| 03:27.23 | ranbato | :p I guess that answers my question |
| 03:28.38 | karlpinc | ranbato: You can do it, but might or might not get help. |
| 03:28.54 | rg_ | has made many frankendebian boxes without too many issues... mixing sid is usually the worst. |
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| 03:30.15 | karlpinc | I like my stuff to just work. I can generally wait for new features. The real issue is on os upgrade. Upgrading stable is a whole lot easier than throwing it away and starting over with the next release. |
| 03:31.21 | ranbato | understood. thank you very much :) |
| 03:31.21 | somiaj | ranbato: double check the depends, if they are all of the form >= it can be installed, but it isn't tested and may not work as desired. |
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| 03:32.52 | rg_ | unfortunately, often the latest version is required for working... either because of bug fixes, or one of those new features being required for functionality... |
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| 03:35.13 | RustyShackleford | uchicago's mirror has been out of date for like a week |
| 03:35.16 | RustyShackleford | http://debian.uchicago.edu/debian/dists/wheezy-updates/Release |
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| 03:39.06 | karlpinc | rg_: I find backports are often the answer, except for python where virtual environments come in handy. YMMv. |
| 03:40.51 | somiaj | RustyShackleford: you should contact the mirror matainer, but wheezy-updates are not vital and wno't effect much if you dn't use them. |
| 03:41.25 | RustyShackleford | somiaj, well I'm not sure if I have any packages downloaded from there |
| 03:41.46 | RustyShackleford | if thats the case, is it possible that stuff will break if I remove wheezy-updates? |
| 03:42.06 | RustyShackleford | i could also just pick another mirror |
| 03:42.20 | somiaj | no, wheezy-updates contains packages that have bug fixes scheduled for the next point release, but are not considred security holes. |
| 03:42.32 | somiaj | eventally during the point release all packages tehre get pushed into wheezy |
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| 03:43.33 | somiaj | https://wiki.debian.org/StableUpdates |
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| 03:46.04 | karlpinc | RustyShackleford: As long as you're using security.debian.org you're good and things will all even out eventually. (I sometimes avoid wheezy-updates on systems that _must_ keep working, just to let others do the testing. Although I can only recall updates breaking things once, ever.) |
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| 03:48.47 | root | hello |
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| 03:52.09 | RustyShackleford | is there a tool that will help me choose a new mirror? |
| 03:52.48 | RustyShackleford | sort of like the installer's tool? |
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| 03:59.26 | somiaj | RustyShackleford: have you tried the http.debian.net mirror, that should give you a geoip mirror |
| 04:01.10 | somiaj | https://www.debian.org/mirror/list -- if you awnt a list, there is also netselect-apt if you want a tool to pick a mirror based on speed |
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| 04:17.18 | RustyShackleford | is there anything wrong with using ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ ? |
| 04:17.39 | RustyShackleford | i chose a different mirror mostly because I thought the primary one would be busy/slow |
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| 04:45.29 | coreder | hi, I want to try ot debian testing. In the website, there are three different dvd iso. Do I need all three of them? |
| 04:45.52 | cynicallemon | coreder: no |
| 04:46.00 | hypermist | make: *** [obj/db.o] Error 1 |
| 04:46.01 | hypermist | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:46.04 | rwp | coreder, If at all possible use the network instead of iso disks. |
| 04:46.07 | hypermist | able to help |
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| 04:46.45 | coreder | rwp: My campus net requires authentication before I get connected to internet. It's not possible to use network install. |
| 04:46.56 | coreder | rwp: The authentication is done through browser. |
| 04:47.09 | cynicallemon | coreder: usually the first cd/dvd gets you going but i would go with a net install iso |
| 04:47.16 | rwp | coreder, Bummer! |
| 04:47.36 | coreder | cynicallemon: Why is there three isos? Do they have additional packages? |
| 04:48.46 | hypermist | Okay lets make my message more clear |
| 04:48.46 | hypermist | make: *** [obj/db.o] Error 1 |
| 04:48.46 | hypermist | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:48.58 | coreder | also, what's the difference between CD images and Live images? As shown in https://www.debian.org/CD/ |
| 04:49.04 | hypermist | if not how does one download from a link ? |
| 04:49.11 | rwp | coreder, If one lives in Antarctica and the network is hard then it is possible to install everything using iso images. |
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| 04:49.21 | rwp | coreder, But for all others the network is much easier. |
| 04:49.37 | coreder | rwp, I see. |
| 04:49.50 | cynicallemon | coreder: live cd lets you boot to a desktop and you can install from there |
| 04:50.10 | rwp | I would start with CD#1 and get the system up and running. Then install anything else you need from the now running basic system. |
| 04:50.12 | coreder | cynicallemon: I thought all CD images allow you to do that. |
| 04:50.29 | rwp | CD#1 has the installer. |
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| 04:50.47 | rwp | I forget but some of the other disks have alternative installers. IIRC. Maybe wrong on that. |
| 04:51.04 | coreder | rwp: Will cd#1 have the DE? |
| 04:51.25 | coreder | rwp: I'm interested in cinnamon or xfce. |
| 04:51.33 | rwp | It will have as much of it as will fit. A CD is now too small to fit everything in a full de on it. |
| 04:51.39 | rwp | XFCE should be okay. |
| 04:51.55 | rwp | Again, you can install anything after the first boot. |
| 04:52.23 | rwp | I personally would not install any desktop initially and then install everything else after the first boot. |
| 04:52.26 | coreder | is debian current-live = testing? |
| 04:53.00 | rwp | I don't know about live. But again, after you have a running system you can select Testing Jessie and then upgrade to it. |
| 04:53.08 | coreder | rwp: okay. If there's a browser, then I can get my authentication and install everything through network. |
| 04:53.23 | rwp | Testing changes daily and so any image would be out of date immediately. |
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| 04:53.38 | coreder | rwp: So, I can enable testing from a stable system? |
| 04:53.49 | rwp | Yes! Most definitely. |
| 04:53.58 | coreder | cool! |
| 04:54.19 | rwp | Do you have a wired network? If it were me I would use a NAT router and authenticate the entire router with a laptop and then install on another leg of the router. |
| 04:54.28 | coreder | I'm sorry for so many questions. Trying out debian for the first time after years in ubuntu. |
| 04:54.45 | rwp | Well then welcome back! :-) |
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| 04:55.24 | coreder | I'm in my lab right now. I only have wifi access here. Even if I get access to a wired network, I still need to authenticate from the browser |
| 04:55.29 | coreder | they have two-step authentication |
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| 04:56.13 | rwp | Right. I understand. Hard to do with WiFi. |
| 04:56.35 | rwp | But with a wire you can plug in a NAT router. When you authenticate it will allow the entire router and anything behind it. |
| 04:56.48 | hypermist | such configuring |
| 04:56.51 | hypermist | woops |
| 04:56.52 | coreder | I guess I will install the stable and then 'enable' testing once the system is up and running. |
| 04:56.53 | rwp | It will probably violate their terms of service. But it will also work. And what they don't know won't hurt me. |
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| 04:57.20 | rwp | Installing stable and then upgrading to Testing is always good. A standard way to god. |
| 04:57.25 | rwp | *go |
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| 04:57.47 | coreder | ha, that's hillarious. |
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| 04:58.15 | hypermist | make: *** [obj/db.o] Error 1 |
| 04:58.15 | hypermist | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:58.23 | rwp | hypermist, You haven't said enough to know what your problem is yet. You could be running make for any of a zillion projects. |
| 04:58.40 | hypermist | well im compling my altcoin source code for its wallet |
| 04:58.56 | hypermist | one second |
| 04:59.19 | coreder | what's jigdo scheme? |
| 05:00.08 | rwp | Jigdo is a way to build any of the CD or DVD images. |
| 05:00.09 | hypermist | im just quickly doing a test |
| 05:00.30 | rwp | Because there are many combinations available it consumes huge mirror space. |
| 05:00.50 | rwp | So instead of keeping every image as an image the jigdo tool can be used to build whatever image you want to bulid. |
| 05:01.17 | hypermist | lol this is weird how it works on my other instance of debian but not this one |
| 05:01.22 | coreder | I see...thanks! |
| 05:02.23 | rwp | coreder, Here is a posting of mine explaining it: https://lists.debian.org/debian-cd/2013/05/msg00029.html |
| 05:02.39 | somiaj | hypermist: find the actual error, usually it is a few lines above in the output. |
| 05:02.48 | hypermist | db.h:14:20: fatal error: db_cxx.h: No such file or directory |
| 05:02.49 | hypermist | compilation terminated. |
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| 05:02.59 | hypermist | but yet that didn't matter on my other instance |
| 05:02.59 | hypermist | xD |
| 05:03.49 | coreder | rwp: so all the packages of debian can be stored in 10 dvds? |
| 05:03.57 | rwp | Yes. |
| 05:04.22 | rwp | You can, if you desire, get 100% of the packages and source code and have it physically in your possession. |
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| 05:05.03 | somiaj | hypermist: well that file is missing do you have the corresponding -dev package installed that provides that libary? (libdb5.1++-dev) |
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| 05:05.47 | hypermist | lets see if it works somiaj |
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| 05:06.02 | rwp | hypermist, db_cxx.h is part of the libdb5.3++-dev package. Is that installed? If it worked on the other system then it must have been installed there. |
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| 05:06.10 | somiaj | and if the file is there, then it could be an issue with the linker not able to find it. |
| 05:06.30 | hypermist | lets re-do the make and see if it works :) |
| 05:06.30 | somiaj | (but by default it should find it if you have the package installed) |
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| 05:06.38 | rwp | Well... It is a .h file so that would be the cpp not the linker. :) |
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| 05:06.57 | somiaj | yea, sorry the compiler include path... |
| 05:07.06 | rwp | One of them... :-) |
| 05:07.26 | hypermist | i will let you know if it works |
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| 05:07.54 | somiaj | well were you missing that package? If so you will fix that error, but you could be missing other build depends. |
| 05:08.10 | hypermist | its fixed that error now |
| 05:08.17 | ariscop | trying to patch qemu, apt-get build-dep qemu is returning "Failed to satisfy Build-Depends dependency for qemu: gnutls-dev" |
| 05:08.18 | hypermist | net.cpp:18:32: fatal error: miniupnpc/miniwget.h: No such file or directory |
| 05:09.04 | somiaj | ariscop: are you trying to get your source (deb-source) line from a different version (say jessie) than you are compiling on (like wheezy). i.e. trying to make a backport. |
| 05:09.06 | coreder | rwp: why can't there be an iso, something like what exists for ubuntu, which contains all the packages necessary to up and running a production pc? I mean, an iso for beginners. |
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| 05:09.29 | RustyShackleford | so there's a package I want thats only in debian backports |
| 05:09.36 | ariscop | somiaj, no, on jessie and trying to add a bugfix from upstream, the source and installed version numbers match |
| 05:09.39 | rwp | ariscop, Confirmed. Looks like a package dependency bug to me. Please file a bug about it. |
| 05:09.42 | RustyShackleford | should i build it from source instead? |
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| 05:09.57 | RustyShackleford | I'm not sure why backports looks a little iffy to me |
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| 05:10.34 | somiaj | hypermist: so repeate that process and figure out what package contains that header file. Or look at all the -dev libaries installed on one of the machines the build worked, and just install the lot of them |
| 05:10.40 | rwp | RustyShackleford, I like backports. I would usually use it over compiling my own. |
| 05:10.52 | hypermist | miniupnpc is installed |
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| 05:11.16 | rwp | hypermist, Including libminiupnpc-dev? |
| 05:11.20 | somiaj | RustyShackleford: wheezy-backports are fine packages that are built to work with the wheezy system and you can add the source and install them with little worry. Only issue is they do not recive the same security support as wheezy packges, but for many things this isn't a problem. |
| 05:11.30 | hypermist | probably not rwp heh |
| 05:12.03 | hypermist | thought the guy who gave me the vps would have done that |
| 05:12.04 | somiaj | ariscop: care to share your sources.list, it seems strange that if your deb and deb-src line are for the same versoin of debian and can't satisfy build-depends |
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| 05:13.16 | somiaj | ariscop: it is jessie and could be a bug, but I wanted to make sure you werne't using a deb-src line from a different debian version than you are running. |
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| 05:14.46 | somiaj | coreder: there are full iso's you can get them as cd img or dvd img, you can also look at live.debian.net for premade live systems if you prefer that method to test out debian. |
| 05:14.49 | ariscop | somiaj, http://ix.io/en7 |
| 05:15.39 | ariscop | somiaj, plus jessie and sid have the same version, which doesn't match wheezy or lower |
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| 05:17.18 | somiaj | so youa re mixing wheezy, jessie and sid sources. Looks like due to either your pinning or how apt-'s logic works it cant work out the correct versoins to install to satify the build depends it wanted to use |
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| 05:17.36 | ariscop | gnutls-dev doesn't exist in any of those |
| 05:17.50 | hypermist | http://paste.debian.net/121686/ |
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| 05:19.23 | RustyShackleford | one thing I can't tell: does every mirror host backports? |
| 05:19.59 | RustyShackleford | or only http.debian.net? |
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| 05:20.16 | themill | RustyShackleford: wheezy-backports? yes. http.d.n is not a mirror, it's a mirror redirector that sends you to a close, working mirror |
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| 05:22.14 | jgeek | hi all, can someone suggest a good place to ask packaging related questions ? |
| 05:22.24 | somiaj | ariscop: gnutls-dev is a virtual package provided by libgnutls-dev or libgnutls28-dev, in either case having sources mixed like that can confuse apt and make it not able to figure out things. |
| 05:23.00 | somiaj | jgeek: you can try here, or #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net |
| 05:24.24 | ariscop | new problem, after installing libgnutls-dev, build-dep qemu uninstalls it |
| 05:24.46 | ariscop | while installing libgcrypt20-dev and libssh2-1-dev |
| 05:25.18 | hypermist | anyone able to help http://paste.debian.net/121686/ this is the error now haha |
| 05:25.42 | jgeek | I want to make a package like tar.gz, what is the basic structure to follow ? |
| 05:25.47 | ariscop | hypermist, apt-get install libboost-dev |
| 05:26.10 | somiaj | you have confused apt and have mixed things so it can't correctly resolve depends for you in this case ariscop. If you want to track jessie, use those sources and remove squeeze, wheezy and sid sources (deb-multimeida is also a source that has caused some people problems and shouldn't really be needed in jessie) |
| 05:26.38 | ariscop | i can remove them if you want, fairly sure it's not the problem |
| 05:26.47 | somiaj | jgeek: what do you mean by make a package like .tar.gz -- these are not packages this is just an archive of files. Is that what you are wanting to see |
| 05:27.50 | somiaj | ariscop: well if it is a bug with the build-dpends on jessie you would need a cleaner system to report it and track it down. Note that also the way apt resolves packages depends on what is installed, you have a conflict somewhere in which apt is not able to figure it out. |
| 05:27.59 | ariscop | somiaj, same behavior with just the jessie repos enabled |
| 05:28.00 | somiaj | you could also try aptitude it sometimes has better logic |
| 05:29.06 | jgeek | somiaj: I have an executable application, which is built to x86, debian like systems. but I need to install it without root permission. I have seen some major applications (firefox) has tar.gz versions, which we need to extract |
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| 05:29.38 | somiaj | ariscop: well you may find building the package/source inside a clean chroot easier. You could use debootstrap and make yourself a clean jessie chroot and see if the build depends install correctly. If they do not install correctly in this clean chroot you have found yourself a bug. |
| 05:29.43 | hypermist | i already have it ariscop |
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| 05:30.43 | somiaj | jgeek: they use what is called a static linked binary, so they really only need some basic libc6 libary to link to to run on your system. And this really sin't a debian package, but you just extract the actual binary(ies) into your $HOME and run them. |
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| 05:31.38 | jgeek | somiaj: yeah, I understand. is there a structure to follow, like, in .deb files ? |
| 05:31.47 | somiaj | jgeek: so just put the application and everything it needs to run in some directory, $HOME/myapp |
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| 05:32.32 | somiaj | jgeek: then once you have everything the app needs to run in that directory, ust use the tar program (man tar) to create an archive that others can then extract. |
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| 05:33.28 | somiaj | jgeek: nope, static linked binaries contain all they need to run orgized however the writer decided. |
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| 05:34.46 | somiaj | again all you are doing is just sharing a collection of files. a package contains info about what other packages it needs to run, and other useful info to integrate it with the core system and not just be an isolate program. |
| 05:34.55 | ariscop | hypermist, apt-get install libboost-all-dev |
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| 05:35.44 | somiaj | hypermist: did you have access to a machine that this software built correctly on so you can get a full -dev list, or maybe some documation about the build depends (helps find these libaries over trial and error) |
| 05:36.43 | ariscop | hypermist, https://litecoin.info/Compiling_the_Litecoin_daemon_from_source_on_Debian |
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| 05:38.22 | hypermist | sorry i went afk] |
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| 05:38.51 | hypermist | doing the apt-get install one first |
| 05:39.09 | ariscop | the link has a full list of build dependencies and instructions |
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| 05:39.40 | hypermist | ah i see |
| 05:41.53 | hypermist | how to un install a package |
| 05:42.01 | ariscop | apt-get remove |
| 05:42.44 | hypermist | bleh now my thing isnt working at allxD |
| 05:43.16 | ariscop | litecoin channel would probably be more help |
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| 05:51.44 | hypermist | lol the thing is it may say litecoin but ya knooow its sorta not hehe :) |
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| 05:53.23 | hypermist | i will contact my vps owner ;) |
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| 05:56.13 | ariscop | somiaj, same problem from a clean chroot |
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| 06:11.57 | RustyShackleford | so i'm confused about how to add wheezy-backports to my sources.list |
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| 06:12.12 | RustyShackleford | do I need a separate line? |
| 06:12.17 | themill | yes |
| 06:12.18 | themill | !wheezy-backports |
| 06:12.19 | dpkg | Selected packages intended for the "Jessie" (8.0) release of Debian but recompiled for use with "Wheezy" (7.x) can be found in the "wheezy-backports" repository. Note that wheezy-backports are on the regular mirror network, not on backports.debian.org. A suitable line for your sources.list is «deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy-backports main». Also ask me about <bdo>. |
| 06:12.25 | themill | with exactly the line that dpkg has there |
| 06:13.27 | RustyShackleford | i've got this line in my sources.list deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free |
| 06:13.39 | RustyShackleford | can I add wheezy-backports before it? |
| 06:13.44 | RustyShackleford | or do I need a separate line? |
| 06:14.23 | RustyShackleford | er, rather, change "wheezy" to "wheezy-backports" |
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| 06:21.36 | N3X15 | What software is dpkg running? eggdrop? |
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| 06:23.27 | themill | RustyShackleford: you need a separate line. If you want wheezy-backports you still need a line with "wheezy" in it |
| 06:23.40 | themill | !what are you |
| 06:23.40 | dpkg | I am an infobot. For more information, ask me about <infobot>. |
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| 06:45.17 | dracc | testing |
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| 06:53.12 | tvm | guys, is there something wrong with running Debian as vbox guest and being unable to mount shared folders ? |
| 06:53.37 | tvm | because i've been struggling with this for some time and i'm completely unable to mount anything from host's shares |
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| 07:14.46 | __marco | Good morning. How long will wheezy supported? Where I can find a time line? |
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| 07:15.02 | philadolphia | how do i install tcl? |
| 07:15.48 | __marco | philadolphia: apt-get install tcl |
| 07:15.55 | philadolphia | E: Unable to locate package Tcl |
| 07:16.06 | __marco | Tcl != tcl |
| 07:16.11 | philadolphia | oic |
| 07:16.12 | philadolphia | ty |
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| 07:36.11 | Kikert | Hi, I have the following problem |
| 07:36.25 | dracc | Kikert: We're listening. :) |
| 07:36.43 | Kikert | I have set one virtual host (localhost) about a month ago and everytinhg works as expected |
| 07:37.07 | Kikert | Today I wanted to add onether one (local also) with different domain, but after configuration it show old website. |
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| 07:37.13 | Kikert | Do i have to change something? |
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| 07:37.37 | dracc | Kikert, are you using apache2? :) |
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| 07:37.51 | Kikert | Yep, sorry I forgot to add |
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| 07:39.17 | dracc | Kikert: what files are in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled ? :) |
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| 07:40.09 | Kikert | dracc: One host only ;) Do I have to make sof link or something? |
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| 07:41.34 | dracc | Kikert; either soft link or copy :) |
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| 07:42.47 | Kikert | dracc: Still doesn't work, though. |
| 07:43.01 | Kikert | I have "This webpage is not available" error |
| 07:43.18 | Kikert | First host works as usual |
| 07:43.21 | dracc | Kikert: have you reloaded apache2? "/etc/init.d/apache2 reload" |
| 07:44.02 | dracc | Kikert: Does the new vhost root directory and files have the correct permissions? :) |
| 07:44.12 | Kikert | I did service apache2 reload before, none of them works |
| 07:44.14 | Kikert | ^ I'll se |
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| 07:45.33 | Kikert | dracc: Changed to 644, no difference |
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| 07:48.22 | dracc | Kikert: Does DocumentRoot and any of the Directory-variables match? :) |
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| 07:48.43 | Kikert | Yep, I just copied and replaced string |
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| 07:49.13 | Kikert | If it helps, I changed conf of the first host to 127.0.0.2 and local executes second host |
| 07:49.32 | dracc | Kikert: OK. That might do something. :D |
| 07:49.32 | Kikert | I have two lines 127.0.0.1 host in file hosts |
| 07:49.57 | Kikert | By host I mean example.loc |
| 07:50.05 | aquestion | Hi, I have different USB drives as Cold Storage. And I would like to make a local index with the entire filesystem to search where is some information: is enough to store it in a text file. What tool of debian can I use? Thanks |
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| 07:58.39 | dagon_ | hey guys. I have some questions regarding chroot |
| 07:58.51 | dagon_ | can I mount an .iso, chroot into it and change some things? |
| 07:59.02 | dagon_ | this is all new to me so be nice |
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| 08:05.26 | Iridos | dagon_, not usually, it's a property of the iso-filesystem, though. You cannot normally change it without chrooting into it either. |
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| 08:06.11 | Iridos | or more of the driver making the image accessible to you + some quirks in the format |
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| 08:07.51 | dagon_ | Iridos: hmm, because I got this image and I only need to make some changes to it. If that can not be done I might have to create my own solution and image |
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| 08:11.09 | Iridos | dagon_, it is possible, just not like you described |
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| 08:13.04 | dagon_ | Iridos: so how do I approach this? |
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| 08:14.43 | Iridos | dagon_, thinking what the simplest way is... I pretty much never have the need to do this |
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| 08:17.29 | Iridos | dagon_, basically you have to copy the image, do the stuff you need, then create a new image. If the modification you need to do is for preseeding, this is actually described in the debian wiki https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed/EditIso |
| 08:18.08 | Iridos | dagon_, well, or actually https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Modify |
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| 08:19.00 | Iridos | note that wiki pages can easily be outdated... and are written by pretty much anyone who bothers to do so |
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| 08:20.01 | dagon_ | Iridos: thanks. I'll look into it. I found this raspbian image, pre-built to be a digital picture frame/slidehow and I just need to modify some stuff |
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| 08:20.51 | Iridos | dpkg, raspbian |
| 08:20.51 | dpkg | Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/ |
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| 08:33.53 | Iridos | aquestion, depends what exactly you have in mind |
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| 08:35.14 | Iridos | aquestion, if you just want all names of files in a text file, find /path/to/your/drive > mydriveindex.txt would do it ... if you want slightly more, find /mydrive -ls > mydriveindex.txt would do it |
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| 08:40.09 | aquestion | Iridos: Yes, this is a solution. Another I found is to use: tree path_to_subtree > save |
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| 08:40.49 | aquestion | Iridos: thanks for your attention! |
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| 08:42.20 | omarek | Is it okay to ask here about how to use rsync ? #rsync seems to have 0 traffic. |
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| 08:46.28 | jpinx | !ask |
| 08:46.29 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 08:46.39 | jpinx | omarek: ^^ |
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| 08:53.25 | omarek | Hi, I ran rsync -av username@hostname:wanted/directory destination/ and it copied a lot of stuff. I removed some files from destination directory and re-run the same command. Rsync doesn't restore deleted files. Why ? |
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| 08:55.18 | jpinx | omarek: "removed" how ? |
| 08:58.33 | petn-randall | omarek: Because they might not exist on the source side. 'rsync -av' does not delete any files on the destination that don't exist on the source. You'd have to use '--delete' for that. |
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| 09:01.40 | omarek | jpinx: by hand, 'rm'. |
| 09:02.04 | omarek | petn-randall: Indeed they don't ! Now I feel stoopid ! |
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| 09:06.30 | JyZyXEL | how do you test average SSD access time in debian? |
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| 09:10.07 | petn-randall | omarek: No worries, that's something to easily oversee. There are a lot of other tidbits, too. You can check the man page to it, the documentation is pretty good. |
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| 09:12.09 | jgeek | hi debians, I have compiled a program in x86_64 debian wheezy, will it work without any problem in another x86_64 debian? |
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| 09:13.24 | Baah | hi |
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| 09:14.47 | Baah | I use a reverse ssh tunnel with this command : ssh -i <my_file> -R *:5051:localhost:80 <my_name>@<host> |
| 09:15.15 | Baah | it works well but don't want choose the port |
| 09:15.22 | petn-randall | jgeek: As long as it's the same release, yes. |
| 09:15.46 | petn-randall | jgeek: Compiling it on wheezy and running it on squeeze will likely not work. |
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| 09:16.28 | Baah | so i use ssh -i <my_file> -R *:0:localhost:80 <my_name>@<host> with the port = 0, the server give me a port but it doesn't work |
| 09:17.26 | Baah | how it choose the port it send to me ? |
| 09:17.45 | jelly | Baah: first of all, is GatewayPorts enabled in the remote server's sshd_config? |
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| 09:18.16 | Iridos | jgeek, in all other x86_64 wheezy that have the libraries installed that it needs |
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| 09:21.47 | Baah | jelly: which one is the remote ? |
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| 09:23.20 | Iridos | Baah, works for me, just the way you wrote it |
| 09:23.24 | jelly | Baah: the <host> you're connecting to |
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| 09:24.57 | jgeek | petn-randall: how to make it run in recent versions of Debian ? what should I do for that ? |
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| 09:27.11 | Iridos | jgeek, you can only expect it to work interchanging it between wheezy<->wheezy or jessie<->jessie (or for oldstable between squeeze<->squeeze) |
| 09:27.43 | jelly | and very often from an older release to newer |
| 09:28.11 | dracc | I can't get rid of vblank in Counter-Strike, but Minecraft runs with 100+ fps and glxgears gives ~6800 fps. What to do? :( |
| 09:28.28 | jgeek | Iridos: I have seen some major pre built applications which runs new versions of debian like distros |
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| 09:29.00 | jgeek | Iridos: ex: firefox, how they have achieved this ? any idea ? |
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| 09:29.38 | Jonuz | Can someone name some CLI web browser? |
| 09:29.48 | Iridos | jgeek, and I've seen some commercial major pre-built applications work like this in some cases and fail quite spectacularly on some others... as jelly said, they can very well keep working on newer releases, but you cannot rely a 100% on it |
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| 09:30.41 | jelly | just this week, prebuilt Chrome fails on Debian 7 |
| 09:30.53 | Iridos | jgeek, and very often they achive their partial success in this by including a lot of libraries that the system also has as well as their own java, their own python and whatnot |
| 09:31.41 | Baah | jelly: yes i have GatewayPorts yes |
| 09:31.49 | calvinh__ | Jonuz, what about w3m? |
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| 09:31.59 | jgeek | Iridos: is it possible to include c libraries like you said ? |
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| 09:33.27 | Jonuz | calvinh_: ty |
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| 09:34.51 | jelly | Baah: alright, log in with your command and after you log in, run "telnet localhost PORTHERE" on the remote machine and see if that works. Pastebin all of the output together starting with your ssh command onwards, http://paste.debian.net/ |
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| 09:36.26 | ChrisH | My wireshark does not detect an SSL handshake in a trace... (non-standard port). Any hint on how to forece SSL handshake detection? |
| 09:36.42 | hi_ler | hey, i am trying to build debian for Beagle Bone Black using this link "https://github.com/RobertCNelson/omap-image-builder" and final build comes at 180MB. I need to strip it further to around 100MB. How to do it? |
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| 09:39.50 | hi_ler | i need to add a package list to exclude certain packages from installing. Where to add it? |
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| 09:43.00 | SynrG | hi_ler: read the source? |
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| 09:43.12 | ChrisH | wireshark answer: use -o http.ssl.port:non-standard-port :) working now |
| 09:43.16 | SynrG | looks self-explanatory to me |
| 09:43.22 | Baah | jelly: I' have not telnet ... |
| 09:43.33 | SynrG | hi_ler: and not really a debian support question. |
| 09:44.21 | SynrG | hi_ler: if it annoys you that you have to actually read the files in 'configs', and you think that's not obvious enough, ask the maintainer to provide some documentation :p |
| 09:44.25 | jelly | Baah: install it, or use nc |
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| 09:45.33 | Jonuz | Whan was parameters for setting ssh tunnel? |
| 09:47.31 | Baah | jelly: i have not the right with the user who create the tunnel, I can launch the telnet if i connect with root with the same result ? |
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| 09:56.22 | Baah | jelly: My admin just said me that a firewall block the port out of 5050 - 5150 ... |
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| 09:57.10 | Baah | jonuz: ssh -i <my_file> -R *:0:localhost:80 <my_name>@<host> |
| 09:57.32 | Jonuz | Thanks, but I found that ssh -D 8080.. is more usefull |
| 09:58.05 | Jonuz | I didnt have access to wikipedia etc so I asked here |
| 09:58.28 | Baah | I didn't really undertand what does -D |
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| 09:59.05 | Baah | jelly: How can i limit the server to give me a port between 5050 an 5150 ? |
| 09:59.09 | Jonuz | You now do?:p |
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| 09:59.35 | Baah | no ... |
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| 10:10.16 | Jonuz | Or thats how I use that |
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| 10:17.14 | munnis | Hi, I have a shell script which I need to be run by a normal user. The shell scrip reads the syslog, how can I do this? |
| 10:17.19 | munnis | I get acces denied currently |
| 10:17.29 | Jonuz | And well, I'm not sure does -D stand for dynamic |
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| 10:34.01 | iulhk | one of my client IP address is connected with my linux machine, is there any command available which i can use to monitor either which protocol or port client sending receiving packets etc ? ngrep command is fine , but if i don't know which port client using, then how can i get users sending receiving packets info? |
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| 10:43.17 | iulhk | how to capture specific IP address traffic by using some linux command ? |
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| 10:47.59 | SPF | iulhk: tcpdump -i eth0 host 8.8.8.8 for example |
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| 11:14.57 | ChrisH | iulhk: for more specific use man pcap-filter |
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| 11:24.57 | sippi | i created a bootable usb with unetbootin, but the computer lenovo y50 doesn't detect it on startup (i enabled USB support in the bios) |
| 11:25.11 | SynrGy | no. don't do that. |
| 11:25.18 | SynrGy | unetbootin is a scourge. |
| 11:25.39 | SynrGy | !usb install |
| 11:25.39 | dpkg | You can install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key on x86 systems, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03 and ask me about <install debian> for hybrid CD/DVD images. Use http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ to write images from Windows. For BIOSes not capable of USB boot, ask me about <plop>. |
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| 11:27.54 | sippi | so i was using unetbootin when all i had to do was a simple cp? |
| 11:28.16 | sippi | !install debian |
| 11:28.16 | dpkg | There are a myriad of different ways to install Debian. See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer for a list of images and ask me about <netinst>, <various cd1> and <firmware images>. See also <install guide> and <d-i> for detailed instructions. (If you've never installed Debian before, you should read the install guide.) |
| 11:28.17 | babilen | yes |
| 11:29.55 | Baah | I flashed Debian installer from Windows on a usb with http://www.linuxliveusb.com/en/home |
| 11:31.54 | sippi | it still doesn't work? can it be a problem with my computer? it's using UEFI or something |
| 11:32.07 | sippi | or EFI; i have no idea what these are |
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| 11:37.19 | sippi | i had to change from Boot mode UEFI to "Legacy Support"; now it detects the USB key, but says "No bootable device" |
| 11:37.30 | sippi | "isolinux.bin missing or corrupt" |
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| 11:41.00 | SPF | sippi: I think that if you change the USB device after creation of the "boot files", the address defined in MBR might not point to the OS because fs was changed |
| 11:41.37 | sippi | SPF: not sure what you mean by changing after creation? |
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| 11:41.48 | sippi | i just used "cp"; now i'm trying with the "dd" technique |
| 11:42.06 | SPF | both cp and dd change the "FAT table" of the USB fs |
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| 11:42.45 | sippi | SPF: alright, it doesn't work either; should i reformat to FAT32 or something, and then use unetbootin? |
| 11:43.08 | rfreeman|afk | hi is there some package I should install or anything to do, to use USB 3.0 monitor on my debian stable? |
| 11:43.22 | SPF | sippi: yes, I would recommend that |
| 11:43.56 | SPF | boot disc are normally created in one go. After this there are no more changes allowed |
| 11:43.58 | rfreeman|afk | usb monitor MB168B (Asus), normally it should use module udlfb (though "udl" is recommended usually - a never version of it) |
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| 11:47.18 | sippi | SPF: unetbootin doesn't see the disk anymore (and dolphin cannot mount it anymore) after sudo mkdosfs /dev/sdb1 -F 32 -I |
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| 11:49.49 | sippi | maybe this key is not formattable to FAT32? |
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| 11:50.38 | sippi | there is an error in gparted when i try to NTFS :/ |
| 11:51.32 | sippi | "/dev/sdb1 is not a block device, refusing to make a filesystem here" |
| 11:51.43 | sippi | (this is when i try NTFS) |
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| 11:57.51 | SPF | sippi: I dont think you need to make a partition |
| 11:58.39 | sippi | SPF: no i know but gparted can also be used to format; well i guess the command line is easier for that; but anyway, i'm able to format to FAT32 (with command-line or gparted), but then i cannot mount |
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| 11:58.53 | sippi | mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/loop0, missing codepage or helper program |
| 11:59.16 | SPF | why do you want to mount it? |
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| 12:00.07 | sippi | SPF: unetbootin needs it mounted |
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| 12:02.54 | sadtaco | Is there a way to create a sort of "mirror" of a file in another folder? I have two web directories for php, and they share a lot of files. I'd like to only need to upload one update of the file in one of the folders to also update the other one. |
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| 12:04.31 | SPF | sippi: maybe you can try formatting it to ext3? |
| 12:05.38 | sippi | SPF: mkfs.ext3: invalid inode size - /dev/sdb1 |
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| 12:10.15 | SPF | sippi: I would just remove everything and then try unetbootin |
| 12:10.23 | SPF | or try a different usb key |
| 12:12.00 | SPF | unfortunately I dont have physical access to a debian machine right now |
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| 12:21.45 | Baah | I use ssh tunneling with : ssh -i <my_file> -R *:0:localhost:80 <my_name>@<host> with the port = 0, the server assign me a port. How can I config the range of the port given by the server ? |
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| 12:22.56 | dmi3on | hey all, what can i use to monitor network traffic per application i use debian wheezy ? |
| 12:25.19 | petn-randall | Baah: You can't. What are you ultimately trying to achieve that you need a port range? |
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| 12:27.42 | Baah | petn-randall: I have just a range of port that are not blocked |
| 12:27.47 | abrotman | dmi3on: ntop? jnettop? iftop? Not sure what you mean by per-application |
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| 12:30.48 | petn-randall | Baah: Why not just pick a specific one then? |
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| 12:32.54 | Anticom | hi all |
| 12:33.14 | Anticom | is 'find [path] -mtime +0' valid? |
| 12:33.24 | Baah | petn-randall: because it will be done automatically by a lot of server (Raspberry Pi) |
| 12:33.32 | Anticom | or does mtime need to be equal or greater than 1? |
| 12:34.13 | petn-randall | Baah: Then write a script that increments the port number, assuming you have enough unblocked ports. |
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| 12:37.38 | Baah | petn-randall: Ok it is what I thought ... just for know, how it choose the port ? |
| 12:38.20 | petn-randall | Baah: If you put :0 there, randomly above 1024. |
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| 12:40.38 | Baah | petn-randall: ok thx ! |
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| 12:48.49 | abrotman | Anticom: Why would you do that? If you want to delete aall files, leave the mtime out |
| 12:49.40 | Anticom | abrotman: well -mmin +59 finds everything that's >=60 minutes, doesn't it? |
| 12:50.13 | Anticom | at least according to this: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/543946/mtime-files-older-than-1-hour#comment355911_543951 |
| 12:50.34 | Anticom | so i thought -mtime +1 would find anything >=2 days |
| 12:50.40 | Anticom | that's why i asked for +0 |
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| 12:53.06 | abrotman | Anticom: yes, sure .. its' actually 59+ I believe .. but -mtime +1 finds files modifed n*24hrs ago .. |
| 12:53.15 | abrotman | 0*24 is still 0 |
| 12:53.20 | abrotman | that'd be my guess |
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| 12:53.47 | Anticom | abrotman: so -mtime +1 finds everything equal or greater one day old? |
| 12:54.08 | abrotman | Anticom: Have you read the man page? :) |
| 12:54.18 | Anticom | not yet tbh |
| 12:54.20 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:54.21 | abrotman | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:54.53 | abrotman | Anticom: man find, it's long, it's a good read though .. watch out for the plot twist around page 21 |
| 12:56.01 | Anticom | abrotman: sure will :) |
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| 12:56.11 | Anticom | thank you anyway |
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| 13:03.46 | DammitJim | what do I need to do to fix grub2? I have a dual boot system with Windows 8 and last night I updated to Windows 8.1 and grub no longer shows up to select the OS |
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| 13:05.03 | qman__ | DammitJim: you need to boot live and reinstall grub to the master boot record |
| 13:05.26 | DammitJim | I am booted into Debian after fiddling with the boot options |
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| 13:05.32 | DammitJim | can I do it from here as well? |
| 13:05.38 | DammitJim | what do I need to look at? |
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| 13:06.24 | qman__ | DammitJim: you can do it from there, but if you were able to boot into debian without external tools, it may not be set up the typical way |
| 13:06.33 | DammitJim | right |
| 13:06.37 | DammitJim | that's what I want to know how to fix |
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| 13:07.07 | DammitJim | is this something where a partition has been set to the wrong filesystem? |
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| 13:07.21 | qman__ | DammitJim: the typical way is to install windows first, then install debian, which leaves grub as your main bootloader |
| 13:07.49 | DammitJim | qman__, that's how I had it, but when I upgraded from Windows 8 to 8.1 last night, something in that upgrade screwed up grub |
| 13:07.53 | qman__ | DammitJim: if you initially did it that way, you can fix it by doing grub-install /dev/sd? where ? is the boot disk |
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| 13:08.43 | abrotman | dpkg: tell DammitJim about fixmbr |
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| 13:09.30 | DammitJim | thanks aberrant |
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| 13:09.31 | DammitJim | abrotman, |
| 13:09.49 | DammitJim | do I have to do all that in a separate console? |
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| 13:10.06 | DammitJim | or can I do it in just a different terminal from irssi? |
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| 13:10.45 | DammitJim | oh, interesting... it seems windows fast startup feature might be the reason for the problem! |
| 13:11.37 | DammitJim | brb, let me see if I can fix this by using bcdedit in windows |
| 13:11.38 | DammitJim | thanks! |
| 13:12.06 | Thumpxr | DammitJim: If you have a UEFI there might be an option too. |
| 13:12.19 | DammitJim | I do have UEFI |
| 13:12.51 | DammitJim | brb |
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| 13:15.40 | jelly | Anticom: -mtime +0 will actually find stuff one day or older. +1 will find stuff 2 days old or older. The inverse of -mtime +1 is -mtime -2. Are you confused yet. |
| 13:16.27 | jelly | Anticom: if you're not confused enough, look into -daystart |
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| 13:18.02 | Anticom | jelly: so -mtime +0 is valid and does what i actually wanted? |
| 13:18.40 | Anticom | although abrotman's hint with n*24 hours in the manpage whereas 0*24=0 seemed quite legit |
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| 13:19.30 | abrotman | sometimes, I do the crazy |
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| 13:20.41 | jelly | Anticom: instead of trusting the manual or your interpretation of what it says, it's sometimes worth to try things out and see how they actually behave |
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| 13:21.11 | Anticom | jelly: and since i'm quite a newbie to unix and it's a production system where i shouldn't mess arround i thought i'd ask here |
| 13:21.14 | Anticom | :) |
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| 13:21.26 | jelly | and touch command has a handy --date option |
| 13:21.59 | jelly | Shirley you have a non-production system to try things on |
| 13:23.04 | jpinx | Anticom: you can run a headless vbox vm for experiments without being too hard on the hardware |
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| 13:25.33 | aprendizdeingles | is supported Intel Corporation Haswell Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 06) in wheezy? |
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| 13:41.37 | thesignal | hi guys |
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| 13:43.29 | thesignal | i'm trying to use an usb to serial converter from texas instruments, the usb3410, but the system doesnt detect it. i already tried loading the module manually "modprobe ti_usb_3410_5052", but it has, except some dmesg output, no effect |
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| 13:44.07 | jelly | thesignal: what's the usbid of the device when plugged in? |
| 13:44.17 | thesignal | any ideas? i also found out, the firmware wasn't even installed, so i loaded firmware-nonfree, (where it wasn't distributed with) and then loaded it from some site, as binary |
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| 13:44.36 | thesignal | jelly: that, i forgot to mention, it 's not listet in lsusb |
| 13:45.48 | jelly | thesignal: that's not a good sign, then |
| 13:45.58 | thesignal | could it be a problem with the device itself? for example, the power-supply? |
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| 13:46.35 | jelly | thesignal: it definitely could, if it's undetected on multiple machines in all their usb ports |
| 13:46.42 | DammitJim | wow... bcdedit and I think it's definitely related to windows fast start |
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| 13:46.46 | DammitJim | that fixed grub properly |
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| 13:49.16 | thesignal | jelly: thanks. suddenly its detected after a new power-cycle, now dmesg finally gives me something |
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| 13:49.59 | jelly | thesignal: right, the driver can't do much if the device is absent from the usb bus |
| 13:50.50 | thesignal | jelly: firmware: failed to load ti_usb-v0451-p3410.fw |
| 13:51.43 | thesignal | how do i find out where it's included? |
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| 13:54.07 | jelly | judd: file ti_usb-v0451-p3410.fw |
| 13:54.10 | judd | No packages in wheezy/i386 were found with that file. |
| 13:54.16 | Rusty1 | if i type gksu synaptic in a terminal i get a gtk keyring dialog etc, from obmenu , i do not - do i have to install something or add user to a group? |
| 13:54.28 | jelly | thesignal: well, if you have the file, just put it in /lib/firmware |
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| 13:57.45 | thesignal | jelly: it worked, i renamed the file i found, rmmoded the module, inserted it again, thanks for your hints |
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| 13:58.53 | themill | Rusty1: gksu is trying to su to root there; you'd need to give your root password. If you want to configure it to use sudo mode instead of su, you can do that too |
| 14:00.12 | Rusty1 | themill: i can gksu from a terminal with root password to open ok, i cant get the dialog to appear when clicking synaptic from the menu, it does nothing |
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| 14:00.38 | Rusty1 | or gparted etc |
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| 14:00.57 | Rusty1 | a dbus thing perhaps? |
| 14:01.27 | themill | it uses policykit |
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| 14:03.17 | Rusty1 | and policykit-1 wants systemd |
| 14:03.24 | Rusty1 | hmm |
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| 14:04.24 | themill | you need either libsystemd-logind0 or systemd-shim |
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| 14:15.03 | Rusty1 | themill: the dialog flashed and dies, so a step forward - |
| 14:16.11 | sippi | SPF: i was able to reformat the key properly, but now that i put the iso using unetbootin, it's still not working; i'm afraid of reusing dd and cp to break everything again |
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| 14:17.23 | sippi | nvm it's working! great |
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| 14:19.55 | babilen | sippi: You cannot be sure if the installation works as unetbootin causes problems with grub. Those are, however, relatively easy to fix on an installed system (/msg dpkg fixmbr). Problems like these are one of the reasons why we recommend to not use unetbootin, but to write the images directly. It is interesting that this method isn't working for you. |
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| 14:21.41 | sippi | babilen: yes i have no idea why; if it worked, then everytime i did that i'd have to reformat to use the key as a normal key? |
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| 14:23.28 | sippi | currently on the computer there is a unique ntfs partition for windows; can i resize it within the debian installer to install debian on half of that partition? |
| 14:24.14 | sippi | "Because of an unknown reason it is impossible to resize this partition" |
| 14:24.47 | eeeeeeaaaa | maybe with gparted |
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| 14:25.49 | LtL | sippi: boot windows resize it from disk management, then tell the debian installer to use the remainder of the disk for installation |
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| 14:26.14 | sippi | eeeeeeaaaa: i don't have linux yes |
| 14:26.24 | sippi | LtL: ok i'll try from windows, i guess i have to abort the installation |
| 14:26.45 | eeeeeeaaaa | ok, then in windows. win7 does it. disk-management or so |
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| 14:31.25 | sippi | it's working! do you recommend everything in one partition, or separate /home? or separate everything? |
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| 14:33.20 | LtL | sippi: if you need to ask, save yourself from later issues and use one partition. |
| 14:34.35 | sippi | ok thanks |
| 14:34.41 | LtL | np |
| 14:34.59 | Anticom | find is "finding" a directory that is not present on the fs and says that it's unable to find the directory it pretends to have found |
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| 14:35.32 | Anticom | i'm using 'find /path/to/tmp/hourly* -mmin +59 -exec rm -r {} \;' |
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| 14:35.58 | Anticom | any clues what's going wrong there? |
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| 14:36.10 | ChrisH | Anticom: reproducible? |
| 14:36.33 | sippi | Anticom: try to put the path between quotes " " |
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| 14:37.29 | ChrisH | The file/directory might be deleted between find found it and rm tried to delete it. |
| 14:37.45 | Anticom | sippi: says "/path/to/temp/dir*" cannot be found |
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| 14:38.11 | Anticom | and yes ChrisH it is reproducible |
| 14:38.20 | sippi | Anticom: find /path/to/tmp -name "hourly*" -mmin +59 -exec rm -r {} \; |
| 14:38.24 | sippi | i think |
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| 14:38.36 | Anticom | w/o the [asterix] ? |
| 14:38.40 | jelly | !using find |
| 14:38.40 | dpkg | i heard using find is http://mywiki.wooledge.org/UsingFind or "man find" |
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| 14:39.01 | sippi | Anticom: the argument of find is the folder in which you want to search, and -name is the pattern of name files you're looking for |
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| 14:39.28 | ChrisH | Anticom: then I would suggest to do your find with a -print and try to understand whats going on there. |
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| 14:39.46 | jelly | Anticom: while testing, use -ls instead of your -exec rm -r {} \; action to see what find finds |
| 14:39.52 | sippi | Anticom: if the files you're looking for are of the form: hourlybla, hourlyaaa, hourly54 you need to leave it here |
| 14:40.14 | Anticom | jelly: k, thx |
| 14:40.59 | jelly | (if your find does not have -ls, you're either not on Debian or your Debian is more than a decade outdated) |
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| 14:41.32 | Anticom | jelly: i was simply doing -exec ls {} \; |
| 14:41.44 | Anticom | whatever.. i'm only finding files direclty in my search directory |
| 14:42.00 | Anticom | tried /path/to/dir* aswell as /path/to/dir |
| 14:42.06 | Anticom | i want to find the folders aswell |
| 14:42.14 | sippi | i've installed debian, and grub installed correctly, but the lenovo is booting on windows 8 without asking me anything, and the boot menu doesn't help |
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| 14:42.32 | jelly | Anticom: does "find /path/to/dir -type d" show anything? |
| 14:42.55 | Anticom | jelly: yes |
| 14:42.59 | petn-randall | sippi: You need to change the UEFI boot order. |
| 14:43.03 | Anticom | oh wait |
| 14:43.05 | Anticom | -.- |
| 14:43.10 | Anticom | i'm having a time constraint |
| 14:43.13 | petn-randall | !enter |
| 14:43.14 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 14:43.40 | jelly | Anticom: if you already deleted all the old files, there would be nothing more to delete |
| 14:44.11 | Anticom | jelly: yep |
| 14:45.28 | sippi | petn-randall: oh i had to use "SATA HDD" in the Boot Menu (and put the boot mode to "Legacy Support" in BIOS) |
| 14:45.28 | Anticom | but when running it with -exec rm -r {} \; i get this directory not found error again |
| 14:45.38 | Anticom | that's weird |
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| 14:46.18 | petn-randall | sippi: If you booted the installer from UEFI, you should be able to boot from that, too. That's also the recommended way to do it, otherwise you have to change between UEFI and legacy boot to dualboot. |
| 14:46.20 | hercumer | Anticom, rm -r refers to a directory, find lists the files |
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| 14:46.51 | sippi | petn-randall: i didn't figure out how to do that; i could only see the USB key with the Legacy support |
| 14:46.56 | Anticom | hercumer: so how can i use find recursiveley (and i'd have to use -type f, right?) |
| 14:47.14 | petn-randall | sippi: How did you prepare the USB installer? |
| 14:47.15 | Anticom | wait but then it wouldn't delete the folders |
| 14:47.27 | Anticom | thought i could do -rm -r on a directory |
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| 14:47.35 | Anticom | or if -rf required? |
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| 14:47.48 | sippi | petn-randall: i tried with cp but it didn't work correctly (nor with dd), so in the end i used unetbootin |
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| 14:48.29 | Iridos | Anticom, the real line of what you did, what you wanted it to do and the exact errors that resulted would be useful to have... if command+output is more than 2 lines, paste.debian.net would be the way to show it to us |
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| 14:49.09 | mtn | sippi: cp and dd should always work and unetbootin is well know to cause many problems with the debian installer |
| 14:49.09 | hercumer | Anticom, if you want to remove directories then you would want to find -type d |
| 14:49.40 | Anticom | hercumer: but not exclusiveley |
| 14:49.46 | Anticom | think i got it now anyway |
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| 14:50.10 | sippi | mtn: when using cp or dd, UEFI didn't work, the key was detected with Legacy Support, but when i tried to boot on it, i got "isolinux.bin missing or corrupt" "no bootable device" |
| 14:50.21 | hercumer | Anticom, I would refrain from using -f on anything I didn't completely understand |
| 14:51.06 | Anticom | hercumer: those are tmp dirs i'm cleaning up |
| 14:51.23 | Anticom | it's up to the developers to only put stuff in there that can be deleted with no harm |
| 14:52.09 | hercumer | Anticom, let me get this staright, You want to remove directories only if they contain certain files that you find by name? |
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| 14:52.39 | Anticom | hercumer: no. i want to delete anything find finds and the only constraint is when the file was created |
| 14:53.40 | mtn | sippi: that does not sound like a problem with cp or dd. did you follow the debian wiki on uefi installs? |
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| 14:54.35 | sippi | mtn: no i just did cp debian.iso /dev/key |
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| 14:55.03 | hercumer | Anticom, 'find /path/to/tmp/hourly -mmin +59 -exec rm -r {} \;' Your original should work then modified as sippi suggested |
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| 14:55.34 | mtn | sippi: maybe start with this and see if it helps: https://wiki.debian.org/GrubEFIReinstall |
| 14:56.28 | Anticom | hercumer: does work now. maybe it was a typo or something. |
| 14:56.35 | Anticom | thanks for the help |
| 14:56.36 | sippi | mtn: thanks i'll look into it; but is it problematic to leave Legacy Support on? |
| 14:57.11 | mtn | sippi: debian will work fine with legacy support |
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| 15:00.22 | sippi | wifi never works out of the box when i install debian :/ i guess i need to install some proprietary drivers |
| 15:00.55 | mtn | sippi: or use this image to make your installer: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ |
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| 15:01.19 | sippi | hm nice |
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| 15:02.23 | petn-randall | sippi: One problem at a time. What was the *exact* cp command you used? |
| 15:02.58 | petn-randall | (to create the usb key) |
| 15:03.23 | sippi | petn-randall: it was sudo cp Downloads/debian-live-7.6.0-amd64-kde-desktop.iso /dev/sdb1 |
| 15:03.37 | mtn | heh |
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| 15:04.51 | LtL | sippi: you want /dev/sdb |
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| 15:06.03 | petn-randall | sippi: Aha! It's not /dev/sdb1, you should use /dev/sdb. That's why it didn't boot. Unetbootin will mangle the ISO in subtle ways that makes such things as UEFI boot break. |
| 15:06.06 | petn-randall | !unetbootin |
| 15:06.06 | dpkg | UNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer) allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux distributions. http://unetbootin.sf.net/ Not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>. |
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| 15:07.00 | petn-randall | sippi: Try it again with "sudo cp Downloads/debian-live-7.6.0-amd64-kde-desktop.iso /dev/sdb" and make sure you don't use legacy boot. That way you can comfortably use grub to dualboot Windows or Debian. |
| 15:07.38 | sippi | ok thanks for information :) |
| 15:08.34 | eeeeeeaaaa | sure you want to copy the .isi to sdb? |
| 15:08.38 | eeeeeeaaaa | .iso |
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| 15:09.32 | petn-randall | sippi: Well, do make sure /dev/sdb is really your USB key since you will destroy the contents of that device. |
| 15:09.38 | petn-randall | eeeeeeaaaa: ? |
| 15:09.42 | sippi | right ;) |
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| 15:10.07 | eeeeeeaaaa | then you have a file xyz.iso on the flah-drive. not bootable |
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| 15:10.25 | sippi | i read in the forums that i need a new kernel for wifi atheros AR9565 support, do i just need to add the backports in my sources.list and dist-upgrade? |
| 15:11.01 | nido | cap3lla: your quit link seems outdated |
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| 15:11.33 | sippi | eeeeeeaaaa: no this is only if you copy the point where the USB drive is mounted (/media or wherever) |
| 15:11.43 | sippi | the iso* |
| 15:12.06 | eeeeeeaaaa | oh. right. didnt know this works |
| 15:12.24 | eeeeeeaaaa | i would use dd for that |
| 15:12.28 | petn-randall | eeeeeeaaaa: What? You're copying the naked ISO to the block device, that's how it's mean to be. |
| 15:12.54 | petn-randall | eeeeeeaaaa: dd uses a block size of 1 byte by default, which gives you horrible performance. |
| 15:13.40 | LtL | sippi: you won't need a dist-upgrade, just put the backports deb line in sources.list, update and apt-get install -t wheezy-backports kernel-name |
| 15:13.40 | sippi | i'll try this: aptitude -t wheezy-backports install linux-image-amd64 |
| 15:13.49 | petn-randall | ... and results in every block being overwritten up to 4096 times, which probably isn't too good for the USB key either. |
| 15:14.13 | LtL | sippi: i may have the -t in the wrong spot there |
| 15:14.50 | sippi | LtL: is it not recommend to use backports for everything? dist-upgrade using backports? |
| 15:15.22 | sippi | i put the backports in the sources.list, and it looks like it updated the image as well |
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| 15:16.26 | LtL | sippi: dont use dist-upgrade at all, thats for upgrading to a newer release, and us backported packages for a relatively few packages as possible |
| 15:16.43 | LtL | *use |
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| 15:18.04 | sippi | i thought dist-upgrade was just an upgrade with more "power" (ability to downgrade and remove packages) |
| 15:19.19 | LtL | sippi: no, its for example upgrading wheezy to jessie. |
| 15:19.24 | babilen | dpkg: tell sippi -about backport caveat |
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| 15:19.53 | babilen | sippi: Your understanding is, more or less, correct. As opposed to "upgrade" a "dist-upgrade" also allows for the removal of packages. |
| 15:20.15 | babilen | (which is needed during upgrades from one release to the next) |
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| 15:21.58 | sippi | so it's not recommended to use dist-upgrade all the time? |
| 15:22.36 | LtL | sippi: simple answer, absolutely not. |
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| 15:24.21 | babilen | sippi: There shouldn't be much of a difference between running "dist-upgrade" or "upgrade" on a standard stable system. If you *really* aren't able to choose the best suited action for what you are trying to achieve I'd default to the least invasive one though which would be "apt-get upgrade" or "aptitude safe-upgrade". But then all those actions have their place and you simply to to know when to use which. |
| 15:25.01 | sippi | ok thanks |
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| 15:26.13 | oxka | Is not hashcat and locksmith in the debian repos? |
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| 15:28.41 | petn-randall | oxka: Did you check http://packages.debian.org yet? |
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| 15:34.22 | oxka | petn-randall, yeah, there is nothing there. |
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| 15:35.12 | sippi | do i need to add something particular to my sources.list for the package https://packages.debian.org/stable/kde/yakuake? it cannot be found |
| 15:35.27 | ridj222 | So, I just finished installing Debian without an Internet connection. There are a couple non-free firmware files or whatever that I need to install for the WiFi to work, but I don't have an ethernet connection to do it. I can transfer these over from another computer with a USB. Anyway, once I transfer these over, how do I install/configure it? |
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| 15:36.50 | LtL | ridj222: dpkg -i packagename.deb |
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| 15:38.24 | petn-randall | sippi: Define "it". |
| 15:38.29 | petn-randall | !tell sippi about ask |
| 15:38.33 | petn-randall | !tell sippi about bat |
| 15:39.20 | LtL | sippi: it may be in contrib or non-free in which case you append contrib and non-free to your deb lines and run update |
| 15:40.00 | petn-randall | LtL: yakuake is in main, which is why I ask what he did exactly. |
| 15:40.35 | LtL | petn-randall: ah, okay :) |
| 15:41.09 | sippi | petn-randall: i ran "sudo apt-get install yakuake" and got "unable to locate package yakuake"; yes my sources.list is probably wrong, i only have security wheezy-updates hyere |
| 15:41.34 | sippi | i need to add the normal repositories to sources.list i guess |
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| 15:42.07 | mtn | oh boy |
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| 15:42.19 | LtL | !tell sippi about wheezy sources.list |
| 15:42.29 | oxka | petn-randall, Do I need to install it from source? |
| 15:42.39 | LtL | sippi: check the PM from dpkg |
| 15:42.53 | sippi | LtL: thanks |
| 15:42.55 | petn-randall | oxka: If it's not in Debian, it's one of the options, yes. |
| 15:43.28 | petn-randall | sippi: What did you change in your sources.list? On a normal installation it should be correct out of the box. |
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| 15:44.08 | petn-randall | sippi: No, let's start from the beginning: How do you conclude "it cannnot be found"? |
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| 15:45.48 | mengesb | so I'm trying to build a new kernel package with a new kernel directive. When I build the package (debuild -e DEBIAN_KERNEL_JOBS=8) my config (/boot/config-3.2.0-4-amd64) has the new parameter unset |
| 15:45.58 | mengesb | I'm wondering how I can set a new default for the kernel variable |
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| 15:46.19 | sippi | petn-randall: apt-get answered "unable to locate package yakuake"; originally in the sources.list, there were lines for the cd-rom, and commented lines for security updates; so i commented the cd-rom lines, and uncommented the two other lines about security updates; |
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| 15:47.07 | mengesb | and yes I have read many times https://wiki.debian.org/HowToRebuildAnOfficialDebianKernelPackage |
| 15:47.14 | petn-randall | sippi: Could you paste your full sources.list to http://paste.debian.net? |
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| 15:49.06 | sippi | petn-randall: i think the problem is going to be solved by adding these three lines: "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main" "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy-updates main" (i already had the 2nd one only); i'm currently not on the right computer so it's a bit hard to make pastes sorry |
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| 15:50.28 | sippi | yes it worked :) thanks for the help |
| 15:50.33 | psymax | Hello! is there anybody that have experienced this weird issue: sometimes when i start my laptop, the keycode for my left arrow key changes from 113 to 156 and it stops working. any ideea why? |
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| 16:02.05 | ridj222 | LtL: That didn't really get me anywhere. Honestly, this is my first time using Linux, so you know how it is. Let me give you specific information, so that you're able to answer the questions for my specific situation. I have 2 non-free firmware files I wish to install which currently reside on a USB drive on the target computer. Their names are iwlwifi-6000-4.ucode and rt2870.bin. I need to figure out how to go from here to getting t |
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| 16:03.47 | Iridos | ridj222, your sentence is cut off after "from here to getting" |
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| 16:05.16 | ridj222 | Iridos: Thanks for letting me know, though there isn't much after that. Just trying to figure out how to get the WiFi working so I can get started. |
| 16:05.43 | Iridos | ridj222, but anyway those filenames look wrong... they should end, as the one in LtL's example end in .deb |
| 16:05.53 | hercumer | ridj222, https://wiki.debian.org/Firmware |
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| 16:08.35 | ridj222 | I'm pretty sure they are what I need, as they're the ones that were missing during the installation and the installer requested them. I've spent some time and I'm pretty sure they're the right non-free firmware files for my WiFi cards - I just don't know how to get them wherever they need to go, as I've never used Linux before. |
| 16:08.56 | Iridos | ridj222, I just looked up the URLs for you, this is guessing from the filenames you gave, though... http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-iwlwifi_0.36+wheezy.1_all.deb and http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/firmware-ralink_0.36+wheezy.1_all.deb (full output including checksums: http://paste.debian.net/121766/ ) |
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| 16:10.53 | ridj222 | Iridos: Okay, I will try those. So, once I download them and get them on the target computer, where do I put them/what do I do with them? |
| 16:11.01 | Iridos | ridj222, well, there's packages of the same name as yours... and you're in the running system now, not in the installer |
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| 16:11.28 | Iridos | ridj222, what LtL said... dpkg -i firmware-ralink_0.36+wheezy.1_all.deb firmware-iwlwifi_0.36+wheezy.1_all.deb |
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| 16:13.02 | leshaaf | hi |
| 16:13.31 | Iridos | ridj222, admittedly I'm not installing too many systems... the ones I do just keep running and there's not a lot of new ones :) |
| 16:13.38 | leshaaf | how can i set my debian server to accept connections |
| 16:14.18 | hercumer | leshaaf, from what? |
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| 16:14.35 | leshaaf | I could yesterday but today my server up sick |
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| 16:14.49 | leshaaf | hercumer: telnet, ssh , ftp ... i cant do nothing! |
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| 16:15.48 | hercumer | leshaaf, do you have a terminal and access to it directly? |
| 16:16.03 | Iridos | it's easy... figure out what's wrong and then fix it |
| 16:16.05 | leshaaf | i can use the server sure,,, |
| 16:16.16 | leshaaf | Iridos: =) |
| 16:16.27 | hercumer | leshaaf, reboot |
| 16:16.50 | leshaaf | hercumer: how many times ? =) i have the whole day on it ! |
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| 16:18.02 | Iridos | the important bit is not to save your data before doing it... j/k |
| 16:18.23 | Iridos | leshaaf, do you know the IP of your router? |
| 16:18.23 | ridj222 | Iridos: Okay, I installed them and am restarting now. Will let you know. |
| 16:18.32 | leshaaf | Iridos: yes |
| 16:18.43 | Iridos | leshaaf, ping that IP |
| 16:19.02 | leshaaf | and ? |
| 16:19.12 | Iridos | and see what happens! |
| 16:19.19 | hercumer | whoa |
| 16:19.29 | Iridos | well, does it respond or not? |
| 16:19.32 | leshaaf | lol |
| 16:19.36 | Iridos | hercumer, amazing, ain't it? |
| 16:19.45 | hercumer | ;) |
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| 16:20.24 | leshaaf | Iridos: whAT do you think about! |
| 16:20.38 | Iridos | leshaaf, well, does the router respond or not? |
| 16:20.41 | leshaaf | my srv works in internet and i see share folders |
| 16:20.44 | leshaaf | but i can ssh the srv |
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| 16:20.53 | leshaaf | thatsa all and ftp |
| 16:20.54 | leshaaf | i cant! |
| 16:21.06 | leshaaf | Iridos: yes it does |
| 16:21.11 | leshaaf | works! |
| 16:21.14 | Iridos | oh, so all connections to outside work? |
| 16:21.23 | leshaaf | yes |
| 16:21.23 | leshaaf | :P |
| 16:21.44 | RoyK | leshaaf: do you have some sort of console available on that box? |
| 16:21.56 | ridj222 | Iridos: Thank you Iridos. It's working. :x |
| 16:22.08 | RoyK | iLO, iDRAC, IPMI, something? |
| 16:22.08 | Iridos | leshaaf, does "ssh localhost" from the machine work? |
| 16:22.37 | leshaaf | Iridos: yes it works |
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| 16:22.59 | RoyK | leshaaf: do you have something like fail2ban or denyhosts installed? |
| 16:23.10 | leshaaf | RoyK: no dude. |
| 16:23.41 | RoyK | leshaaf: have you tried ssh'ing in from another machine, that is, from another official IP address? |
| 16:23.53 | RoyK | s/from another/from an another/ |
| 16:23.56 | leshaaf | RoyK: thats why im here |
| 16:24.05 | Iridos | leshaaf, and an ssh to localhost, but using the IP of the external network card? |
| 16:24.27 | leshaaf | lets see Iridos |
| 16:24.45 | leshaaf | Iridos: works with the ip too |
| 16:24.51 | leshaaf | locally... sure! |
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| 16:27.12 | oxka | I have been monitoring tail -f /var/log/messages and I have noticed some odd messages: http://pastebin.com/JZ1vt2m9. It is mentioning raid6 but I am using a laptop and I only have one hard drive. |
| 16:27.14 | Iridos | leshaaf, what type of network is it? |
| 16:27.38 | Iridos | sounds to me like most likely it's not the debian box denying access, but that it's a NAT or some external firewall |
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| 16:28.43 | leshaaf | Iridos: kind o network ? do you mean if its tcp? |
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| 16:29.27 | Iridos | no... is that at a university or company or at home or whatever and how is the connection to the internet made |
| 16:30.00 | Iridos | oxka, maybe the laptop has hidden depth? |
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| 16:30.50 | oxka | Iridos, Are you trying to be funny with me? |
| 16:30.59 | Iridos | oxka, yes |
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| 16:31.09 | oxka | O.K. |
| 16:31.14 | Iridos | I mean... yes, it's strange... but what could we say about it |
| 16:31.20 | leshaaf | Iridos: its a work network, this srv is inside a vm by windows 2008 |
| 16:31.48 | Iridos | oxka, you could look in dmesg or /var/log/messages at the place where things are mounted (and possibly any raid is being assembled) |
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| 16:32.12 | oxka | Iridos, Any thing strange on my laptop is a concern since I am kind of a paranoid person. |
| 16:32.38 | SynrG | oxka: |
| 16:32.41 | SynrG | $ lsmod |grep raid |
| 16:32.42 | SynrG | raid6_pq 95238 1 btrfs |
| 16:33.17 | Iridos | leshaaf, then you probably need to configure the VM container under windows to allow you incoming network connections... |
| 16:33.36 | Iridos | SynrG, the things you have! |
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| 16:34.29 | oxka | Iridos, This is my dmesg output: http://pastebin.com/mh2PxV9V |
| 16:34.29 | SynrG | Iridos: i don't. but apparently it's a dependency of btrfs. however, i don't use btrfs ... |
| 16:34.31 | Gr1 | Hi everyone |
| 16:34.32 | ridj222 | Okay, another question. So, I'm trying to install VirtualBox now and right at the end of the installation I am getting a popup which reads, "A media change is required - Additional media is required. Please insert the disc labelled as 'Debianb GNU/Linux 7.6.0_Wheezy_ - Official amd64 Binary-1 20140712-14:11' to continue." |
| 16:34.53 | Gr1 | Is there a way to see if my bind9 is actually caching the requests, or is forwarding each time? |
| 16:34.56 | ridj222 | Doesn't seem like that has anything to do with the installation |
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| 16:36.10 | Okee | Does anyone understand the instructions for the last step with installing the program "cheat" (see http://www.linuxpromagazine.com/Online/Blogs/Productivity-Sauce/Cheat-Cheatsheets-for-Command-Line-Tools)? I don't know what he means by "use your preferred text editor to add cheatsheet's content to the file"? Where do you get the content? |
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| 16:37.01 | zophy | can i set up my networking to give speed/responsiveness in favor of my ssh connections ? |
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| 16:37.46 | SynrG | oxka, Iridos: on the other hand, not only do i not use btrfs, but also neither do i use any of these: http://paste.debian.net/121775/ |
| 16:37.52 | jhutchins | ridj222: Sounds like your sources.list still has the original media listed. |
| 16:38.07 | SynrG | so i suspect quite a number of filesystem modules are simply loaded by default, just in case :) |
| 16:38.28 | jhutchins | zophy: Not so's you'd notice. Do you have something else that's taking up enough bandwidth to cause lag on ssh? |
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| 16:38.54 | jhutchins | SynrG: Some are compiled in. |
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| 16:39.24 | SynrG | i see. yes. all the better to boot you with, my dear |
| 16:39.31 | ridj222 | jhutchins: Uh huh. So is there anything I need to do or can I just complete the installation and disregard it? |
| 16:39.34 | SynrG | (granny, what big filesystems you have!) |
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| 16:39.48 | mtn | !tell ridj222 about wheezy sources.list |
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| 16:40.02 | jhutchins | ridj222: I think I would ignore it, fix your sorces.list, then do aptitude -f install. |
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| 16:41.07 | enach | Hey, I miss a chown command, and I chowned /* to my user, there is a solution to reset the permissions or something like that ? |
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| 16:41.49 | SynrG | jhutchins: er, but those are shown in lsmod, so 'compiled in'? |
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| 16:42.03 | Brigo | enach, did you have backups? |
| 16:42.04 | SynrG | jhutchins: not by any meaning of that phrase that i know :) |
| 16:42.09 | zophy | jhutchins, precisely, isn't there some QOS, quality of service that a firewall can provide ? |
| 16:42.10 | jhutchins | enach: Your chance to run the installer again! |
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| 16:42.20 | SynrG | i can believe 'included in "most"', though |
| 16:42.38 | enach | Brigo I saved some data on a FTP server |
| 16:42.49 | jhutchins | SynrG: Well, you could always look at the configuration in /boot, but yeah, some are, some aren't. |
| 16:42.57 | enach | jhutchins There is another solution ? :/ |
| 16:43.08 | jhutchins | enach: Restore your backup. |
| 16:43.14 | leshaaf | Iridos: i saw that the problem can be from the windows ma chine! |
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| 16:43.50 | enach | jhutchins; there aren't any backup just some date like downloads of documents :/ |
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| 16:44.51 | jhutchins | enach: When you do the whole system like that there just isn't any practical way to sort out all of the ownership on all of the system files. |
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| 16:45.28 | jhutchins | enach: You have gained experience points. Experience is proportional to data destroyed. |
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| 16:45.51 | wakd | enach, chown recursive? or just / |
| 16:45.53 | Iridos | oxka, there's no raid... but for some reason the kernel module ... raid6_pq (I guess) is loaded and loading produces the message |
| 16:45.54 | Bitvilag | hey everyone I have a serious problem. many of my clients report that they cannot access my server however I do not see any singnes of try. Can someone help me in this matter? |
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| 16:46.01 | enach | jhutchins: Ok, thanks you for your time, I'll level up soon I think :D |
| 16:46.10 | Bitvilag | is there such thing as ip black list for websites? |
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| 16:46.23 | enach | wakd: recursive ... :'( |
| 16:46.25 | Iridos | oxka, shortly before that xfs is loaded, ntfs and qnx4... and I guess you're not using them anymore than SynrG does |
| 16:46.29 | sadbox | . |
| 16:46.45 | jelly | sadbox: ? |
| 16:48.06 | Iridos | Okee, you write it from what you find useful for it to tell you |
| 16:48.07 | RoyK | enach: the data should be intact - if you have a USB disk or something on the local network to back that up, boot on a USB pen and rsync the lot over |
| 16:48.37 | RoyK | enach: and look at the bright side of it - you learned something new today :D |
| 16:48.52 | enach | RoyK: the usb aren't detect :/ |
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| 16:49.00 | enach | RoyK: indeed xD |
| 16:49.08 | RoyK | enach: boot on a USB pen - things should work from there |
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| 16:49.17 | oxka | Iridos, Well nice of you to check the dmesg output to help me out with this. Well I know there is no raid of course on my laptop and some module called raid6_pq is loading any how. I guess that gives me another reason to quite on this install and go with some thing else in the coming weeks if nothing else. I am using wattos by the way. |
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| 16:49.42 | enach | RoyK: I'll search a USB pen ^^ |
| 16:49.43 | Okee | Iridos> Yes, I understand that, but though the article was explaining a default option. I got passed the cloning part, and already have Python 2.7.3 installed, so not sure what to do next. What do I do with my editor VIM? |
| 16:49.54 | RoyK | enach: you'll need some linux distro on that, though |
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| 16:50.11 | RoyK | enach: and you probably can't make one fromthat system :P |
| 16:50.44 | enach | RoyK: I'll reinstall my laptop from scratch I think |
| 16:50.51 | RoyK | enach: any other systems nearby, linux or windows, that can be used to make that? |
| 16:51.05 | RoyK | enach: any data on it you don't have backup of? |
| 16:51.21 | Iridos | oxka, well, might be normal behavior for it. you should ask them in #wattos at the server cqchat.co.in and not us at #debian on freenode, because for debian, it is *not* normal behavior. |
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| 16:51.54 | enach | RoyK: Yes, I have other systems. I ussed filezilla to save my important data, but I haven't any backup |
| 16:52.13 | oxka | Iridos, It is based on debian wheezy. |
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| 16:52.41 | G66k | hello good people |
| 16:52.46 | G66k | i Guess my repo doesnt work |
| 16:52.48 | RoyK | enach: then start with a USB live thing and make sure the data is copied somewhere else before reinstalling |
| 16:52.50 | Iridos | dpkg, wattos |
| 16:52.50 | dpkg | wattOS is a Linux distribution based on Ubuntu. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.planetwatt.com/ #wattos at cqchat.co.in. See also <based on debian>. |
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| 16:52.52 | G66k | where i can get working repos |
| 16:53.04 | mtn | G66k: which version of debian? |
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| 16:53.13 | enach | RoyK: Thank you very much ! |
| 16:53.15 | G66k | Debian GNU/Linux 7.6 (wheezy) |
| 16:53.23 | enach | Thank you and have a nice day, and may be some experiences point ^^ |
| 16:53.26 | G66k | mtn Debian GNU/Linux 7.6 (wheezy) |
| 16:53.27 | mtn | G66k: !tell G66k about wheezy sources.list |
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| 16:53.49 | Iridos | dpkg says it's even based on ubuntu... anyway... "based on" != "is" ... so things are different and there's really no point of me comparing to how things on my system are |
| 16:53.49 | dpkg | Iridos: that's too long |
| 16:53.54 | mtn | !tell G66k about wheezy sources.list |
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| 16:53.56 | Iridos | dpkg, shaddap |
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| 16:56.34 | G66k | mtn thanks :) |
| 16:56.43 | mtn | G66k: welcome |
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| 16:59.50 | Cope | is there a handy command that shows currently enabled repos, rather than parsing sources files? |
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| 17:01.48 | sleenk | cope: maybe apt-cache policy ? |
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| 17:03.29 | G66k | one more question , is there a way to clear all logs ? |
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| 17:05.20 | G66k | how to install OPENSSL DEVEL |
| 17:05.38 | Cope | sleenk: good idea... I'll have a play with that |
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| 17:05.44 | sleenk | g66k: apt-get install libssl-dev |
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| 17:06.01 | Keira23 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:06.19 | G66k | Keira23, no spam :( |
| 17:06.22 | sleenk | seems a funny place for a spambot to come |
| 17:07.14 | G66k | Yeah |
| 17:07.41 | sleenk | G66k: what kind of logs are you trying to clear? most logs are in /var/log |
| 17:08.03 | G66k | sleenk, i mean history of apt-get |
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| 17:08.35 | sleenk | G66k: how is the history of apt-get effecting you? what command? |
| 17:08.37 | G66k | or unnecessary logs |
| 17:08.57 | ToApolytoXaos | guys, is it possible to replace systemd from debian testing? it's causing problems with poweroff; it would not turn off PC, it just stays with a blinking cursor. i have tested testing with two different 64-bit PCs and the behavior is the same. |
| 17:08.58 | sleenk | btw, /var/log/apt/history.log (and there should be various history.log.N.gz files |
| 17:09.00 | G66k | sleenk, i just want to keep my system clean |
| 17:09.17 | sleenk | G66k: logs shouldn't effect your system's usability. the system has a log rotater that should help with that anyways |
| 17:09.38 | G66k | sleenk, ok thanks |
| 17:09.58 | sleenk | i would never remove your apt logs anyways, never know when you might need that info =) |
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| 17:11.32 | G66k | sleenk, yes i understand |
| 17:11.39 | G66k | incase system get corrupt |
| 17:11.47 | G66k | you can check what have you installed or removed |
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| 17:12.42 | sleenk | yep. or if you regret installing a package and the dependencies you can still figure out what to remov |
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| 17:15.53 | mtn | ToApolytoXaos: it is my understanding that you don't have to use systemd in jessie. maybe you could get more info on #debian-next on oftc.net |
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| 17:17.28 | mtn | ToApolytoXaos: of course, you could use the command line to shutdown until it is fixed in jessie |
| 17:18.59 | ToApolytoXaos | i am using sudo poweroff |
| 17:19.14 | ToApolytoXaos | i use fluxbox as my desktop environment |
| 17:19.21 | ToApolytoXaos | very convenient and lightweight |
| 17:19.28 | mtn | ToApolytoXaos: how about shutdown -h now as root? |
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| 17:21.19 | ToApolytoXaos | ok, i will try it tonight and let you know; cheers mtn |
| 17:21.26 | mtn | ToApolytoXaos: :) |
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| 17:22.35 | Cope | sleenk: yep, apt-cache policy | grep origin | uniq |
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| 17:28.56 | mengesb | is there a way to set the default config file for a kernel; then package with that config? |
| 17:29.10 | mengesb | the last attempt i made at packaging my patched kernel, it didn't set my new kernel variable |
| 17:29.53 | mengesb | basically I want to set a new default for the config when the kernel is compiled before packaging |
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| 17:31.32 | mengesb | I did my patching, the package creates, but the config doesn't have the new kernel config variable set to Y, it is unset and therefore not enabled |
| 17:31.53 | mengesb | is it as simple as having a .config before doing the packaging? |
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| 17:34.04 | jhutchins | what do you mean by a default? |
| 17:34.17 | mengesb | so my patch has a new kernel config parameter |
| 17:34.42 | mengesb | CONFIG_TCP_ZERO_COPY_TRANSFER_COMPLETION_NOTIFICATION |
| 17:34.53 | mengesb | I want that to default to Y so when the kernel is packaged, that's enabled |
| 17:35.03 | jhutchins | Ah, so you want to add the option to the config file. |
| 17:35.16 | jhutchins | When it's packaged, it's compiled, so the config file doesn't matter. |
| 17:35.17 | mengesb | yes, so when the kernel is built, then packaged, it is enabled |
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| 17:36.28 | jhutchins | mengesb: The config file is included in the binary package for information purposes only. |
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| 17:36.51 | subz3r0 | hi |
| 17:37.03 | jhutchins | !tell mengesb about nmg |
| 17:37.06 | subz3r0 | ive a program that crashed regularly.... but no idea why |
| 17:37.17 | subz3r0 | how can i grap a core dump? |
| 17:37.20 | subz3r0 | grab |
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| 17:37.41 | jhutchins | subz3r0: What do you expect a core dump to tell you? |
| 17:37.58 | subz3r0 | nothing |
| 17:38.04 | jhutchins | subz3r0: If a program crashes it usually doesn't affect the kernel and therefor doesn't produce a dump. |
| 17:38.14 | subz3r0 | The Coder asked for a core dump. |
| 17:38.30 | mengesb | jhutchins: so here's the gig; I'm applying two patches from SCST to integrate some kernel mode improvements. I can get the patches into the packaging (apply patch, dpkg-source --commit), but when I run debuild -e DEBIAN_KERNEL_JOBS=8 and then install resulting packages, the kernel parameter for CONFIG_TCP_ZERO_COPY_TRANSFER_COMPLETION_NOTIFICATION is not set |
| 17:38.36 | mengesb | I need that parameter enabled by default |
| 17:39.02 | subz3r0 | asked me to compile it again and grab a core dump. also check dmesg for any segfaults... but i cannot find any related things with dmesg |
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| 17:40.23 | jhutchins | subz3r0: If it's segfaulting that might generate a dump, but if it's not what you need to do is compile it with debugging symbols enabled then run it in a debugger (gdb). |
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| 17:41.28 | subz3r0 | jhutchins: well... the dev told me too to check dmesg... but i cannot see anyhting withing dmesg what would point my in the right direction |
| 17:41.54 | subz3r0 | ouch.. nice english on my side... ;/ |
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| 17:42.47 | jhutchins | subz3r0: man limits.conf, enable dumps, see if it dumps. |
| 17:43.09 | subz3r0 | jhutchins: how do i turn debugging symbols on? and where? |
| 17:43.12 | jhutchins | subz3r0: You can probably find a lot more than the little I know of the process on google. |
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| 17:43.32 | subz3r0 | http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-core-dumps.html |
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| 17:43.34 | subz3r0 | found that one |
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| 17:44.18 | jhutchins | subz3r0: From what I know debugging symbols are an optional item included at compile time in order to trace errors. |
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| 17:44.31 | subz3r0 | hmm |
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| 17:44.38 | jhutchins | subz3r0: Once the code is stable they are usually left out. |
| 17:44.45 | subz3r0 | i guess ill wait until the dev is online and ask him |
| 17:45.06 | subz3r0 | jhutchins: thanks for your time. appreciated it |
| 17:45.07 | jhutchins | subz3r0: Like I said, read the man page for limits.conf - that will tell you how to enable dumps. |
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| 17:53.15 | mengesb | jhutchins: so once I've created and saved my patches (debian/patches/<patch files>.patch) and they're commited to source via dpkg-source --commit, how do I set the default for the kernel compile before packaging? |
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| 17:57.14 | zubir | yo |
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| 17:58.02 | shaaf | hi, who to see if my debian srv stops my current ip machine ? |
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| 17:58.52 | shaaf | i can access it from anothers machine , but from mine i cant! |
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| 18:00.45 | Blokker | you can start by doing a traceroute to see where the traffic gets halted. If it does reach your machine, the problem is on your machine. If it stops inbetween, the problem is with an ISP |
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| 18:01.29 | shaaf | well |
| 18:02.08 | shaaf | Blokker: im working locally |
| 18:02.48 | Blokker | virtual? |
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| 18:03.09 | shaaf | Blokker: yes |
| 18:03.18 | shaaf | this machine its on windows |
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| 18:03.25 | shaaf | and im using putty |
| 18:03.31 | shaaf | connection refused... etc etc |
| 18:03.57 | Blokker | in that case, and unless you've been adding firewall rules, i would suspect the network is not set up properly |
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| 18:16.12 | CarlFK | how do I ..um.. make this work? apt-get install gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly ... unmet dependencies: libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-0 (>= 1.0.0) Depends: liborc-0.4-0 (>= 1:0.4.18) but 1:0.4.16-2 is to be installed |
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| 18:16.50 | CarlFK | I don't mind adding new repos. doing some R&D, will deal with production once I have something kinda working. |
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| 18:18.12 | Nik05 | CarlFK are you running wheezy with backport? |
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| 18:18.44 | CarlFK | Nik05: rackspace vm, "Debian 7 (Wheezy) (PVHVM)" |
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| 18:19.13 | CarlFK | guessing no backports |
| 18:19.44 | Nik05 | CarlFK it should be in wheezy-backports |
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| 18:20.04 | CarlFK | Nik05: thanks. |
| 18:20.38 | Nik05 | liborc-0.4-0=1:0.4.19-1~bpo70+1 is in wheezy-backports |
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| 18:21.38 | CarlFK | Nik05: $ grep back /etc/apt/sources.list ... deb http://mirror.rackspace.com/debian/ wheezy-backports main |
| 18:22.04 | abrotman | CarlFK: aptitude -t wheezy-backports install gstreamer1.0-plugins-ugly |
| 18:22.34 | CarlFK | abrotman: thanks - stuff installing... |
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| 18:22.46 | kanja | I am having some intermittent trouble with my wifi card and I have the idea that updating iwlwifi might help things out - is there an apt mirror that has the most recent version for download, or can someone point me to some resources on how to install outside of stable? |
| 18:22.51 | kanja | sorry I'm a bit of a newb with debian |
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| 18:27.34 | philadol1hia | is there a way to proxy all outgoing tcp connections through the tor network on debian? |
| 18:27.39 | rendar | just installed debian, even if i call apt-get update, it doesn't update the source list, i cannot install anything with apt-get, neither git or kde, what's happening? |
| 18:28.01 | abrotman | philadol1hia: seems that'd be more of a Tor question, not a Debian question |
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| 18:28.48 | SynrG | rendar: were there errors from the 'apt-get update'? you say "i cannot install". what, exactly, does that mean? does it explode? set fire to the cat? |
| 18:29.10 | SynrG | (providing us with output at paste.debian.net would be helpful :) |
| 18:29.52 | SynrG | rendar: also provide us with a copy of your sources.list itself. |
| 18:30.08 | rendar | SynrG: i think this is not the time for sarcasm, apt-get update reads from source.list, and updates successfully the packages, then if i type 'apt-get install git' it says: E: unable to locate packate 'git' <- and this does happen for *every* package i type |
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| 18:30.19 | rendar | well |
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| 18:30.59 | rendar | here it is: deb (and deb-src the line after) http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main |
| 18:31.01 | rendar | that's all |
| 18:31.07 | SynrG | oh good grief. good-natured teasing is not sarcasm |
| 18:31.27 | rendar | explode, or set the fire to cat is :-) |
| 18:31.27 | SynrG | you simply failed to provide sufficient inputs to the help process to get a useful answer |
| 18:31.56 | rendar | SynrG: so? how to get a working apt-get? |
| 18:32.04 | SynrG | !wheezy sources.list |
| 18:32.04 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 7 "Wheezy" has three lines: "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main" "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <wheezy/updates> <wheezy-updates> <mirrors> <apt-spy> and "man sources.list". |
| 18:32.10 | rendar | hmmm |
| 18:32.18 | SynrG | rendar: the way you ended up in this state is by *failing* the network setup during the install |
| 18:32.21 | rendar | SynrG: why wheezy? i'm using jessie, right? |
| 18:32.29 | SynrG | pardon, jessie, then |
| 18:32.34 | babilen | rendar: And you will, at the very least, require normal repositories for jessie too. I would also recommend to configure a jessie/sid mix -- /msg dpkg jsm. |
| 18:32.35 | SynrG | !jessie sources.list |
| 18:32.35 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for you to help with preparing the Jessie release is: "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ jessie main", but you knew that already, didn't you? Ask me about <testing> <moving target> <testing security> and make sure you understand the implications of running Jessie. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <mirrors> <apt-spy> and "man sources.list" |
| 18:32.41 | rendar | SynrG: but the network works now, and worked also during the install |
| 18:33.05 | SynrG | rendar: and see #debian-next @ irc.oftc.net for testing/unstable support as per channel topic :) |
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| 18:33.18 | rendar | :) |
| 18:33.26 | rendar | i'll try what the bot says |
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| 18:33.46 | SynrG | rendar: but i do think part of the network setup must've failed for it to get in that state. one step is to configure your repositories ... |
| 18:33.55 | SynrG | rendar: looks like whatever you chose was not contactable |
| 18:34.07 | SynrG | rendar: or else somehow the install failed or was terminated at that step |
| 18:34.39 | rendar | hmm maybe that was the problem |
| 18:35.00 | rendar | SynrG: during the installation i just told it to use the cdrom and not the network, beside this, the networking was working |
| 18:35.08 | SynrG | i see. |
| 18:35.44 | SynrG | next time you'll know how to improve your results, then. |
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| 18:36.14 | SynrG | rendar: and also note babilen's comment above. good advice. |
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| 18:36.40 | rendar | SynrG: but i don't get it, i don't think i failed to something, i just told the setup "look, pick packages from the cd" ...but it should be smart enough to set the correct source.list, AFTER the installation |
| 18:36.46 | SynrG | rendar: and finally, do join us over on irc.oftc.net on channel #debian-next ... and read the valuable advice in 'sid faq' in channel topic |
| 18:37.33 | SynrG | rendar: if you think you have a reproducible failing case where it's doing something unreasonable, that could be the basis for a bug filing. however, i think it's more likely user error. |
| 18:37.34 | rendar | thanks man, i'll join that |
| 18:37.45 | SynrG | rendar: i'm willing to be convinced otherwise, but need to see evidence |
| 18:37.59 | rendar | SynrG: i agree |
| 18:38.12 | rendar | thanks for the help man |
| 18:38.21 | SynrG | np |
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| 18:38.55 | rendar | SynrG: ok with the help of the bot, now it works |
| 18:38.57 | berarma | which process automounts USB drives in Debian Wheezy? |
| 18:39.46 | SynrG | yay |
| 18:40.01 | rendar | but i have noticed a strange thing: when i 'halt' the system, everything does halt, and i receive the usual 'system is halted' string, but the computer do not turn off, i have to press the power button for some seconds to turn it off, is this normal? |
| 18:40.03 | SynrG | berarma: normally nautilus i believe, by the agency of udisks |
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| 18:40.30 | berarma | SynrG: not a Gnome session, it's a XBMC session |
| 18:40.35 | SynrG | berarma: but you could substitute <other file manager> for that (e.g. pcmanfm, thunar, etc.) |
| 18:40.47 | SynrG | or failing that, use the 'udisks-glue' package |
| 18:41.14 | SynrG | berarma: i personally use udisks-glue because i choose not to run a file manager. |
| 18:41.19 | SynrG | sounds perfect for your case |
| 18:42.14 | SynrG | (assuming xbmc does not, itself, provide any such functionality ... if it did, i would be mildly surprised) |
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| 18:42.36 | berarma | mmmm |
| 18:43.56 | SynrG | berarma: i think in fact what happens behind the scenes is these file managers use gvfsd, and one of those is a udisks montioring process that does the automounting |
| 18:44.17 | SynrG | udisks-glue provides *just* that, without any middlemen |
| 18:44.38 | SynrG | (and of course kde does something similar, just probably not using gvfsd) |
| 18:44.40 | berarma | it seems it's udisks-daemon mounting the disk right now |
| 18:45.18 | berarma | my problem is that ext4 pendrives can't be read from xbmc because of file permissions |
| 18:45.20 | SynrG | but i do recall distinctly if i didn't have a file manager running, automounting ceased functioning |
| 18:45.37 | SynrG | so maybe xbmc is firing off the udisks-daemon |
| 18:45.39 | SynrG | hsurgs |
| 18:45.40 | berarma | would udisks-glue help with this or is there a simpler way? |
| 18:45.42 | SynrG | shrugs, too |
| 18:45.53 | SynrG | udisks-glue is relatively uncomplicated |
| 18:45.58 | SynrG | try it and see? |
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| 18:46.34 | SynrG | gotta dash. bus to catch. good luck. |
| 18:46.51 | berarma | thanks SynrG |
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| 19:22.55 | sleenk | berarma: mount /dev/sdXp /mnt/location -o uid=NNNN,gid=NNNN,rw |
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| 19:26.31 | echo083 | hello can i remove security.debian.org from the repository list ? |
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| 19:27.57 | jhutchins | echo083: Why? |
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| 19:28.08 | echo083 | jhutchins, because it is very slow :( |
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| 19:28.30 | echo083 | jhutchins, where can i choose a mirror ? |
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| 19:30.33 | berarma | sleenk: EXT4-fs (sdc1): Unrecognized mount option "uid=1001" or missing value |
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| 19:41.24 | jhutchins | berarma: Did you provide a gid? |
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| 19:47.37 | bsch00 | uid and gid work on FAT and other filesystem types that don't store user/group information, not on extX filesystems. the user option will let a regular user mount the fs but will still preserve permissions |
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| 19:59.45 | jhutchins | Yeah, I'm pretty sure you can't override permissions on an ext filesystem. You might be able to do it if you were mounting over NFS, you cn do it over samba/cifs, but not on a physical mount. |
| 20:00.09 | jhutchins | berarma: root can re-assign the ownership of the files. |
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| 20:11.17 | bbtech | I just did a aptitude upgrade and got a notice about cryptsetup and the whirlpool hash. It says it will make my luks containers broken. Does this mean if I have an encrypted drive I am about to be locked out of my system? |
| 20:14.19 | petn-randall | bbtech: Are you using the whirlpool hash? |
| 20:14.28 | bbtech | petn-randall, I don't know how to tell |
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| 20:14.53 | petn-randall | bbtech: cryptsetup luksDump /dev/yourdevice |
| 20:15.16 | petn-randall | bbtech: If you want, you can paste that to http://paste.debian.net if you don't know how to read it. |
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| 20:16.19 | Octavian | gug |
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| 20:16.52 | Octavian | I am using make-kpkg for building own kernel. |
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| 20:17.18 | Octavian | what is the recommended way to build Linux perf tools for that? |
| 20:17.21 | Octavian | I am using Wheezy |
| 20:17.36 | bbtech | petn-randall, http://paste.debian.net/hidden/16ec9c15/ |
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| 20:17.44 | Octavian | Just can find linux-tools-3.2 |
| 20:17.49 | Octavian | And I'd have to adapt |
| 20:17.51 | bbtech | petn-randall, this is after running aptitude upgrade |
| 20:18.04 | Octavian | (sorry if this is a FAQ) |
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| 20:22.23 | petn-randall | bbtech: Did you upgrade to jessie? Since this bug doesn't affect wheezy. You're using SHA1 for hashing, so you're unaffected. |
| 20:23.18 | bbtech | petn-randall, I believe I installed jessie (without an upgrade from wheezy) |
| 20:23.46 | Tarjaizaid | Hello, when i tried to aptitude safe upgrade,i got this message : WARNING: untrusted versions of the following packages will be installed! |
| 20:23.55 | bbtech | petn-randall, a couple weeks ago I upgraded from wheezy to jessie and saw this message. I ignored it and then I couldn't decrypte my drive so I reinstalled. |
| 20:24.01 | petn-randall | bbtech: I see. If you have further questions, jessie is supported on #debian-next on irc.oftc.net. |
| 20:24.37 | petn-randall | Tarjaizaid: Did you run "aptitude update"? |
| 20:24.41 | bbtech | petn-randall, thanks for the help! So what would I have seen if I was affected, instead of sha1? |
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| 20:25.02 | jhutchins | !make-kpkg |
| 20:25.03 | dpkg | make-kpkg is no longer the recommended method for building kernel packages. See <kernel handbook> for current instructions. It can be used to make a debian package for a custom kernel. See man make-kpkg, <kp mantra>. NOTE it does not automatically create header packages, needed for module-assistant and dkms. |
| 20:25.03 | bbtech | petn-randall, debian-next is invite only |
| 20:25.18 | jhutchins | bbtech: On oftc.net it isn't. |
| 20:25.21 | Tarjaizaid | i forced to upgrade apt and apt-utils, but the message was still present |
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| 20:25.32 | bbtech | jhutchins, thanks, missed that |
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| 20:26.07 | Tarjaizaid | i changed the mirror to change ftp.fr to ftp.de and restart update and upgrade |
| 20:26.53 | Tarjaizaid | the message was not present |
| 20:26.58 | three_legs | hello how can i find out why apt is ignoring release.gpg from my repo? |
| 20:27.20 | Tarjaizaid | i changed the mriror to de to fr and no message |
| 20:27.35 | Tarjaizaid | iDo you have any idea? |
| 20:27.41 | Tarjaizaid | petn-randall: yes :) |
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| 20:28.15 | Tarjaizaid | how to check if my system is compromised |
| 20:28.25 | trinity | Hii Gues |
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| 20:28.39 | trinity | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:28.40 | trinity | <Juon> debian 7 jessi |
| 20:28.40 | trinity | <Juon> debian 7 jessie |
| 20:28.45 | trinity | i am need help |
| 20:28.48 | petn-randall | Tarjaizaid: Do you have reason to believe your system was compromised? |
| 20:28.54 | three_legs | Tarjaizaid: apt-get install chkrootkit is a good start |
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| 20:29.13 | resixian | weird problem: one server i'm ssh into has terrible input lag. |
| 20:29.24 | dmi3on | any one figure out how to fix problem chrome and Shockwave flash ? I installed from backports pepperflash |
| 20:29.29 | Tarjaizaid | petn-randall: yes, the warning message, i don't understand why :( |
| 20:29.35 | resixian | i can switch tmux windows easily, like immediately but anything i type in has 10s of seconds of tdelay |
| 20:29.53 | resixian | an 'identical' server on the same network i have zero problems with |
| 20:30.08 | Nik05 | resixian is it a debian server? |
| 20:30.12 | resixian | cpu usage is minimal and memory is only about 50% |
| 20:30.15 | resixian | Nik05: yes |
| 20:30.23 | Tarjaizaid | three_legs: thanks |
| 20:30.25 | petn-randall | Tarjaizaid: It just sounds like you changed your sources.list without running apt-get/aptitude update. It doesn't sound like something was compromised. |
| 20:30.26 | Nik05 | have you tried ssh -vvv ? |
| 20:30.39 | resixian | the ssh connection is very fast |
| 20:30.45 | Nik05 | oh oke |
| 20:31.06 | Tarjaizaid | petn-randall: i've running update... |
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| 20:31.14 | Tarjaizaid | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:31.19 | resixian | disconnecting, reconnecting is balzing fast. |
| 20:31.21 | petn-randall | Tarjaizaid: Ignoring the error message? |
| 20:31.57 | Tarjaizaid | Oo |
| 20:32.03 | resixian | it is straightup keypresses, cursor keys, A-9 etc that are slow. special sequences, like ctrl+a to switch tmux windows are immediately responded too |
| 20:32.48 | petn-randall | Tarjaizaid: To clarify: Did you accept and install the updates, despite the error message that said the packages were untrusted? |
| 20:33.04 | Nik05 | resixian have you tried another shell? |
| 20:33.18 | resixian | Nik05: good idea |
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| 20:33.42 | trinity | guys my sound icon disappeared I do? |
| 20:33.43 | Tarjaizaid | petn-randall: yes, only for apt apt-utils libapt-pkg4.12 |
| 20:33.48 | Nik05 | and tmux is really running on that sytsem resixian ? |
| 20:33.49 | trinity | iam use debian jessie |
| 20:33.52 | trinity | 7 |
| 20:34.08 | Tarjaizaid | I hope we not learn that mirror server was hacked |
| 20:34.13 | Tarjaizaid | >< |
| 20:34.18 | resixian | Nik05: yes |
| 20:34.22 | sylar | does debian have package for kernel modules? |
| 20:34.37 | Nik05 | but i have had problems like this too, screen detatch was really fast but inside was slow. But that was on a really slow system :P |
| 20:34.39 | resixian | Nik05: no love from sh, or bash either |
| 20:34.58 | Nik05 | and only running sh, not through the other shell? |
| 20:34.58 | resixian | Nik05: well this is a slow system ,but it's never done this before |
| 20:35.06 | Nik05 | oh oke |
| 20:35.12 | Nik05 | what kind of system? |
| 20:35.27 | trinity | say me ? |
| 20:35.48 | Nik05 | trinity ftp.fr.debian.org ? |
| 20:35.51 | trinity | talk to me? |
| 20:36.00 | petn-randall | Tarjaizaid: Or you had a MITM attack. Don't ever do such a thing. If you care about your system, you reinstall. |
| 20:36.01 | Nik05 | oops wrong one |
| 20:36.15 | jhutchins | !tell trinity about alsa checklist |
| 20:36.16 | Nik05 | Tarjaizaid ftp.fr.debian.org ? |
| 20:36.23 | Tarjaizaid | Nik05: yes |
| 20:36.26 | jhutchins | trinity: What desktop? |
| 20:36.32 | trinity | notebook dell |
| 20:36.39 | sylar | /usr/include/bits/errno.h:25:26: error: linux/errno.h: No such file or directory |
| 20:36.53 | jhutchins | trinity: gnome? kde? xfce? lxde? |
| 20:37.04 | trinity | gdm |
| 20:37.04 | Tarjaizaid | Nik05: why ? :P |
| 20:37.12 | Nik05 | i will try it out :) |
| 20:37.21 | trinity | talk to me? |
| 20:37.26 | trinity | Versão 3.12.2 |
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| 20:38.10 | jhutchins | trinity: Trying to guess what you're doing, but usually you can right click on the taskbar and add the "mixer". |
| 20:38.14 | resixian | Nik05: idk, mystery not solved but i just killed & restarted tmux |
| 20:38.18 | resixian | shrugs |
| 20:38.25 | jhutchins | trinity: I'm guessing you're using gnome, I think that's the debian default. |
| 20:38.28 | resixian | 'just works' |
| 20:38.58 | sylar | what to do about: /usr/include/bits/errno.h:25:26: error: linux/errno.h: No such file or directory |
| 20:39.00 | Tarjaizaid | Nik05: after a update with ftp.de the problem message isn't present |
| 20:39.20 | Nik05 | Tarjaizaid can you paste some logs about the problem? |
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| 20:40.01 | Tarjaizaid | yes of course |
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| 20:43.04 | Tarjaizaid | Nik05: i left the term with update ftp.fr and ftp.de :( log was lost :( |
| 20:43.25 | Tarjaizaid | http://pastie.org/private/hqvwrp2tyl7h1qz0gquq |
| 20:43.37 | magyar | hi, is it possible for different application to use a different sound card on the system? |
| 20:43.53 | Tarjaizaid | with pulse no ? |
| 20:43.59 | Tarjaizaid | and pavucontrol |
| 20:44.14 | magyar | alsa/phonon/vlc |
| 20:44.15 | magyar | ? |
| 20:45.53 | Tarjaizaid | ? i think is possible with pulseaudio and pavucontrol manager, try it :) |
| 20:46.38 | Tarjaizaid | Nik05: FYI i use sid |
| 20:47.11 | magyar | Tarjaizaid: thanks, will do |
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| 20:51.06 | Tarjaizaid | petn-randall: Nik05 maybe a aptitude bug :( |
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| 20:52.21 | trinity | Worked |
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| 20:52.27 | trinity | Thanks All Peaple |
| 20:52.49 | trinity | pavucontrol workd |
| 20:52.51 | trinity | pavucontrol workde |
| 20:53.06 | trinity | i am sorry my englis is wrong |
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| 20:56.45 | Bandere | hi all |
| 20:57.14 | Bandere | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:57.15 | Bandere | Reading package lists... Done |
| 20:57.15 | Bandere | Building dependency tree |
| 20:57.15 | Bandere | Reading state information... Done |
| 20:57.15 | Bandere | The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required: |
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| 20:57.33 | Bandere | Do you want to continue [Y/n]? |
| 20:57.33 | Tarjaizaid | Nik05: i'm going to sleep, if you want to contact me, send me a private message. |
| 20:57.35 | Bandere | (Reading database ... 31240 files and directories currently installed.) |
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| 20:57.37 | Bandere | Removing puppetmaster-passenger ... |
| 20:57.39 | Bandere | ERROR: Site puppetmaster does not exist! |
| 20:57.41 | Bandere | dpkg: error processing puppetmaster-passenger (--remove): |
| 20:57.41 | dpkg | bandere: That isn't an error, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
| 20:57.43 | Bandere | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:57.45 | Bandere | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 20:57.47 | Tarjaizaid | PASTEBIN ! |
| 20:57.47 | Bandere | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:57.49 | Bandere | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 20:57.53 | Bandere | sorry |
| 20:58.42 | Tarjaizaid | petn-randall: three_legs Nik05 thx to you :) |
| 20:59.30 | Bandere | Reading package lists... Done |
| 20:59.30 | Bandere | Building dependency tree |
| 20:59.30 | Bandere | Reading state information... Done |
| 20:59.30 | Bandere | The following package was automatically installed and is no longer required: |
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| 21:01.33 | Bandere | :( |
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| 21:01.53 | Bandere | i dont know \n why ? |
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| 21:02.42 | Bandere | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 21:02.43 | Bandere | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:02.48 | Bandere | thats my problem |
| 21:02.49 | Bandere | :( |
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| 21:03.14 | Bandere | i can't remove the puppetmaster-passenger |
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| 21:05.56 | Bandere | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:06.18 | Bandere | dpkg --purge --force-all |
| 21:06.21 | Bandere | ERROR: Site puppetmaster does not exist! |
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| 21:07.42 | Walex | Bandere: that looks like there is a post or pre-removal script that interferes |
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| 21:08.01 | Walex | Bandere: try to use the option to disable package-scripts |
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| 21:10.57 | Bandere | and how can i do that ?:P |
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| 21:11.45 | mitchreward | hi guys, I got a rtorrent process running in a screen session . And I have some perl script to manage my download. I'd like to "grep" progress of download in rtorrent (in bash or perl) |
| 21:11.56 | mitchreward | what'd be the best way to do it ? |
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| 21:12.05 | berarma | jhutchins: yes, I did "mount /dev/sdc1 /media/usb0 -o uid=1001,gid=1001,rw" |
| 21:12.30 | Walex | Bandere: 'man dpkg' and look for options that disable scripts |
| 21:12.33 | berarma | thanks for the info, I've read that everywhere, that it can't be overriden |
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| 21:13.11 | Tarjaizaid | Nik05: I have the same error message ! |
| 21:13.23 | Walex | mitchreward: perhaps use a Torrent client that offers a log of progress to 'grep'? |
| 21:13.28 | Nik05 | Tarjaizaid with what? |
| 21:13.55 | mitchreward | Walex, rtorrent is a pretty convenient cli tool |
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| 21:14.37 | Tarjaizaid | Nik05: i've think i've understand |
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| 21:14.41 | mitchreward | maybe I should ask my question another way. How can I grep stdout on a detached screen ? |
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| 21:15.34 | Tarjaizaid | i've this "script" for update my system |
| 21:15.37 | Bandere | i can't find :( |
| 21:17.00 | Tarjaizaid | when the aptitude safe-upgrade start, i press CTRL C, and i think, i shot the apt-get update process and it break the update file |
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| 21:17.24 | Walex | Bandere: looking... |
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| 21:17.48 | Tarjaizaid | Nik05: after apt-get update its work |
| 21:17.54 | Nik05 | hm oke, strange |
| 21:18.25 | Nik05 | there was a security bug that didnt reported when untrusted packages were downloaded/installed |
| 21:18.31 | hecumer | Bandere, dpkg --configure puppetmaster-passenger |
| 21:18.56 | Tarjaizaid | i can reproduce the issue, its cool :) |
| 21:19.08 | hecumer | Bandere, if that is successful then aptitude purge puppetmaster-passenger |
| 21:19.48 | Walex | Bandere: oh well I can't remember... Try '--no-triggers', if that does not work delete or rename the relevant '.prerm' and '.postrm' scripts in '/var/lib/dpkg/info' |
| 21:19.58 | Tarjaizaid | Nik05: i'm really going to sleep, see you later :) |
| 21:20.07 | Nik05 | bye |
| 21:20.20 | Walex | Bandere: the relevant ones are of course 'puppetmaster-passenger.prem' and 'puppetmaster-passenger.postrm' if any. |
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| 21:24.01 | Bandere | something really not okey here |
| 21:24.39 | Bandere | Ok it's work thank you guys |
| 21:24.45 | Bandere | save my life :) |
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| 21:38.05 | ph0x | hello |
| 21:38.21 | ph0x | I updated my debian install and installed rutorrent |
| 21:38.30 | ph0x | and now I cant SSH into it |
| 21:38.45 | ph0x | says connection refused |
| 21:38.46 | Bandere | gem install bundle |
| 21:39.02 | ph0x | > |
| 21:39.03 | ph0x | ? |
| 21:39.07 | Bandere | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:39.12 | Walex | Bandere: that's a diabolical ionvocation |
| 21:40.02 | Bandere | No no just i have an oother problem |
| 21:40.22 | Bandere | and i was try to put here |
| 21:40.34 | jhutchins | ph0x: Possibly sshd is stopped? |
| 21:40.44 | ph0x | probably |
| 21:40.45 | jhutchins | ph0x: WHere did you get rutorrent? |
| 21:41.05 | Bandere | everything start with this gem problem |
| 21:41.14 | ph0x | i forget i found a guide online |
| 21:41.21 | ph0x | it included a link |
| 21:41.24 | ph0x | trying ot find it |
| 21:41.26 | Bandere | gem install bundler |
| 21:41.27 | Bandere | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:41.44 | ph0x | http://www.adminsehow.com/2013/11/installing-rtorrentrutorrent-on-debian-7-wheezy/ |
| 21:42.05 | Bandere | : cannot load such file -- auto_gem (LoadError) |
| 21:42.05 | Bandere | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:42.10 | ph0x | all went well until i restarted, and i mean, ru torrent still works |
| 21:42.12 | ph0x | just not SSH |
| 21:42.17 | Bandere | but why ? |
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| 21:43.14 | jhutchins | Bandere: #ruby |
| 21:43.28 | Ooze | I don't have any space left on my /tmp partition, so I've deleted its contents, but am still getting the no space error. |
| 21:43.33 | Ooze | Do I need to reboot? |
| 21:43.49 | ph0x | will it hurt yo to try? |
| 21:43.52 | ph0x | you* |
| 21:44.02 | Ooze | I don't even think it's its own partition, it's system and home is the only other |
| 21:44.09 | Ooze | Well maybe there's some other method |
| 21:44.11 | ph0x | you dont think? |
| 21:44.13 | Ooze | I don't want to lose my uptime... |
| 21:44.20 | ph0x | ... |
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| 21:44.22 | Ooze | :( |
| 21:44.23 | Bandere | but tthe debian package make this |
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| 21:46.11 | jhutchins | Ooze: How are you determining that you're out of space? |
| 21:46.14 | ph0x | if sshd is no longer running at boot |
| 21:46.22 | ph0x | how to i make it run again |
| 21:46.31 | Ooze | My autocompletes don't work and I get an error saying I'm low on tmp space |
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| 21:46.42 | Ooze | I had a bunch of .torrents in there and such, so I wiped it |
| 21:46.46 | Ooze | but still didn't take effect |
| 21:46.50 | Ooze | rebooting now |
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| 21:47.45 | jhutchins | ph0x: I like rcconf, there are other methods, but find out WHY it's not starting (logs). |
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| 21:48.16 | ph0x | jhutchins: i honestly used ssh for the first time like a month ago |
| 21:48.28 | ph0x | so im still learning alot |
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| 21:50.08 | tarnfeld | hey guys, I can't seem to find this from googling around â which version of the linux kernel does debian 7.6 ship with? |
| 21:51.16 | jhutchins | ph0x: I don't see anything obvious in those instructions that would have caused that. We generally recommend finding a way to do things with official debian packages rather than building outside software. |
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| 21:53.29 | Bandere | update-alternatives --config ruby |
| 21:53.29 | Bandere | * 1 /usr/bin/ruby1.8 50 manual mode |
| 21:53.36 | Bandere | gem |
| 21:53.41 | yates | does "apt-cache search" only search uninstalled packages by default? |
| 21:53.54 | Bandere | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:54.03 | Bandere | why ? |
| 21:54.22 | ph0x | jhutchins: TBH i used debians rtorrent |
| 21:54.38 | ph0x | but i compiled rutorrent from source |
| 21:54.45 | ph0x | i didnt look but i assumed it wsnt in the repos |
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| 21:58.18 | rwp | yates, apt-cache search looks through the Packages files for the existence of packages in the archive independent of what is installed or not. |
| 21:58.32 | yates | what is the glibc library package called in apt? |
| 21:58.32 | yates | glibc-dev |
| 21:58.35 | rwp | yates, You want 'dpkg -l' to look through installed packages. |
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| 21:59.02 | rwp | yates, It is called "libc6". |
| 21:59.13 | yates | rwp: ok, thanks |
| 21:59.38 | rwp | The dev package is libc6-dev |
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| 22:00.54 | yates | thanks, but that was already installed, so that's not my soci cmake problem. |
| 22:01.35 | jhutchins | ph0x: Anyway, need to figure out why it's not running and fix that. |
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| 22:14.00 | yates | rwp: o11c over on ##workingset found the problem for me: |
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| 22:14.31 | yates | it was: NOTHING! i had to remove the previous soci unzip then start again and it worked |
| 22:14.32 | rwp | yates, Good! What was the problem you had? |
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| 22:14.50 | rwp | Oh, okay. |
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| 22:46.07 | awc737 | Oops I installed Jessie and XFCE |
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| 22:46.25 | awc737 | Can I apt-get install gnome and it will work? |
| 22:46.34 | centrx | yes |
| 22:46.39 | awc737 | nice |
| 22:47.03 | centrx | you can uninstall xfce too if you like, that can be a little more complicated than the trivially easy excellence of apt-get install |
| 22:47.46 | awc737 | debian seems nice to get along with. i tried Ubuntu 14.10, it was a nightmare |
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| 22:48.05 | centrx | awc737, Do be aware that Gnome seems to have more growing pains (bugs) in testing/unstable than the stable release version, or a different WM/DE in testing |
| 22:48.26 | awc737 | default desktop was UNity 8, Mir or something. then default gnome install feels gimped with ubuntus differences |
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| 22:48.55 | centrx | Ubuntu is kind of do it the Ubuntu way or hit the highway |
| 22:49.00 | centrx | compared to the flexibility of Debian |
| 22:49.08 | awc737 | you can't just install a environment, it has to be a ubuntu-fied environment or something |
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| 22:52.02 | awc737 | So lightdm or gdm3 will let me pick between xfce/gnome? |
| 22:52.38 | awc737 | should I pick one default? |
| 22:53.26 | centrx | ? |
| 22:53.35 | awc737 | nvm, works defaullt |
| 22:53.53 | centrx | awc737, Gnome was installed last, so that is probably the default everywhere |
| 22:55.41 | awc737 | yeah. Ubuntu 14.10 I couldn't get anything to work good after the fact I had Mir Unity 8 installed. |
| 22:55.46 | awc737 | it seemed to change app behavior, etc |
| 22:56.08 | awc737 | I mean I got environment installed, but then felt gimped |
| 22:56.47 | awc737 | I think I installed whatever gnome was in package manager. it came out like Gnome classic though |
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| 22:57.56 | awc737 | but centrx you were saying earlier, gnome is more unstable than xfce in Jessie? |
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| 22:58.47 | centrx | awc737, From what I have seen in these channels yes |
| 22:59.00 | awc737 | gnome is working great, though didn't even need to reboot lol |
| 22:59.08 | centrx | awc737, maybe they are resolved by now, but recently there were problems in testing with it |
| 22:59.14 | awc737 | thanks for your help |
| 22:59.53 | awc737 | debian > ubuntu and ubuntu just piggy backs on their success |
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| 23:01.44 | awc737 | so what if they add touch features and swipe UI. Our environments are interchangeable. |
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| 23:02.25 | centrx | yeah Debian is the source |
| 23:02.46 | centrx | The only comparably ancient and hallowed distro is Slackware |
| 23:03.30 | awc737 | so what if they add touch features and swipe UI *and gimp the OS I should say? |
| 23:04.07 | centrx | Ubuntu also added a search feature that sends every local search you do on your local computer to Amazon and Canonical |
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| 23:04.11 | awc737 | lol, yes the halllowed debian |
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| 23:07.06 | awc737 | lol exactly centrx |
| 23:07.27 | awc737 | if the OS is to be minimalist and work across every device, it has to be at the Debian level not Ubuntu |
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| 23:08.10 | awc737 | or Debian first then Ubuntu fudges it up and then markets it |
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| 23:11.42 | awc737 | I guess it is all good that I can get Debian apps on the phone now through Ubuntu, lol |
| 23:11.49 | awc737 | end /rant |
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| 23:19.10 | tgreer | hey all, I've just installed debian unstable on my retina MBP. Install went well. Booting it via EFI. Prompts for encryption password which goes well, until it goes to start X ( i think) then it just hangs and gives me some artefacts on the screen like so: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bx2gJeWCQAAJZj8.jpg |
| 23:19.16 | tgreer | any ideas on what i can do to fix this? |
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| 23:24.41 | Brigo | tgreer, try to boot in rescue mode and check the log of Xorg in /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 23:26.56 | tgreer | Brigo: is that the one under advanced options in grub? If so it does the same thing |
| 23:27.36 | popallamsimbi | hi.the following command doesnt work in a shell script ${var%regexp}. do i need to install a package oder am i using it the wrong way? |
| 23:27.45 | Brigo | tgreer, the rescue mode should not boot the graphic environment. |
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| 23:27.59 | tgreer | Brigo: ok, i'll go give it another go |
| 23:28.03 | Brigo | So the problem is not Xorg, or you are not using the rescue mode. |
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| 23:28.20 | tgreer | Brigo: ok. gimme a moment i'll try again! |
| 23:29.29 | tgreer | do you mean recovery mode? or is rescue mode something else |
| 23:31.38 | tgreer | Brigo: in recovery mode i get a bit more info on screen https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bx2jc6zCMAI7yMq.jpg |
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| 23:34.02 | Brigo | tgreer, it looks like a problem with your graphic card, may be it is not supported ... |
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| 23:36.26 | tgreer | the debian wiki says otherwise |
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| 23:37.11 | Brigo | tgreer, what debian wiki? |
| 23:37.59 | tgreer | https://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn/Apple/MacBookPro/11-1#GPU_.2F_Intel |
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| 23:38.47 | Brigo | tgreer, that what yours? MacBook Pro 13 retina" 2013 late ? |
| 23:39.13 | tgreer | yes |
| 23:39.33 | Brigo | tgreer, forget it. |
| 23:40.29 | tgreer | ? |
| 23:40.30 | Brigo | do not install jessie, it always can fail, the jessie installer is created automaticaly every day and is not testing, so i can (should) fail. |
| 23:40.50 | Brigo | tgreer, install wheezy and then upgrade to jessie, Is is the saffer way. |
| 23:40.53 | centrx | !testing installer |
| 23:40.53 | dpkg | Repeat after me: the testing installer is for testing the <installer>, not for installing <testing>. To install testing, do a minimal installation using the <stable> installer and ask me about <stable->testing>. Installer bugs should be filed against the debian-installer pseudopackage. http://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 23:41.25 | tgreer | oh |
| 23:41.27 | tgreer | my bad |
| 23:41.38 | tgreer | i was just doing wot i was told |
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| 23:51.42 | ph0x | yay thanks for letting my type that ot |
| 23:51.46 | ph0x | out ithink i fixe dit |
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