| 00:00.04 | Lolocafera | nevermind, found it |
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| 00:00.11 | kristopolous | interfaces is just a fancy way of automating things through the network manager |
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| 00:01.32 | Lolocafera | I reverted it to its former state, I only had commented its initial lines |
| 00:01.46 | dondelelcaro | kristopolous: it's not that bad, but you might not have to do it. |
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| 00:01.51 | dondelelcaro | kristopolous: what's going on now? |
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| 00:03.50 | Lolocafera | I just launched ifconfing -a and nothing seems to have changed |
| 00:05.07 | kristopolous | oh sorry let me see |
| 00:05.24 | kristopolous | Lolocafera: that's terrible ... look through dmesg |
| 00:05.27 | kristopolous | it will help |
| 00:05.52 | kristopolous | dondelelcaro: my current issue is pidgin ... I've found "aptitude why-not" and "apt-cache policy" |
| 00:06.04 | kristopolous | still trying to work through how to figure out what they mean |
| 00:06.14 | dondelelcaro | kristopolous: pidgin won't install? or what? |
| 00:06.25 | kristopolous | http://pastebin.com/R2PAP9Qv |
| 00:07.52 | Lolocafera | mmh, I don't see anything that seems relevant to me |
| 00:08.09 | kristopolous | really? iwlwifi isn't there |
| 00:08.11 | kristopolous | ?? |
| 00:08.42 | Lolocafera | Patter not found |
| 00:08.59 | Lolocafera | *Pattern |
| 00:09.01 | kristopolous | when i do why-not on libpurple0 i get 20 lines, going through totem, nautilus, a bunch of things i don't have installed, or ever did |
| 00:09.19 | dondelelcaro | kristopolous: what does aptitude install libpurple0; give you? |
| 00:09.29 | dondelelcaro | (or apt-get install libpurple0; doesn't really matter) |
| 00:09.37 | kristopolous | wow what is this |
| 00:09.41 | Lolocafera | wait, let me reboot |
| 00:09.42 | dondelelcaro | kristopolous: basically, I'm trying to figure out why it can't install it |
| 00:09.44 | kristopolous | total magic |
| 00:10.12 | Lolocafera | maybe my broken interfaces file messed stuff up |
| 00:10.14 | dondelelcaro | kristopolous: the why-not tells you why it's not installed |
| 00:10.27 | dondelelcaro | kristopolous: but not necessarily why it can't be installed |
| 00:10.57 | kristopolous | http://pastebin.com/a1j7vRxq |
| 00:11.35 | Lolocafera | nope, no mention of iwlwifi in the output of dmesg |
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| 00:11.56 | kristopolous | ok well that really means that it didn't feel like even noticing your device |
| 00:12.03 | kristopolous | there's a really really oldschool way to do this |
| 00:12.06 | kristopolous | let me see if that still works |
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| 00:13.26 | kristopolous | no ... this system no longer eixsts ... there used to be a file in /etc where you could manually add things |
| 00:13.38 | kristopolous | i'm talking like 2004 era |
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| 00:14.14 | dondelelcaro | kristopolous: this looks like it didn't finish doing the downgrade (or you still have testing in your packages.list) |
| 00:14.28 | kristopolous | alright what do i need to run |
| 00:14.40 | kristopolous | i removed the file and took out the line from source.les |
| 00:14.42 | kristopolous | list |
| 00:14.45 | kristopolous | as recommended |
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| 00:15.16 | dondelelcaro | kristopolous: what does apt-cache policy perl-base; output? |
| 00:15.34 | kristopolous | http://pastebin.com/UsCGyHZX |
| 00:15.47 | raspberrypifan | how do i boot debian into only console mode |
| 00:15.57 | raspberrypifan | i installed a gui by acciden |
| 00:15.59 | Lolocafera | Serious question, what bundle should I pick in order for Debian to stand reasonable chances to work? Preferably one that doesn't involve spending days on bittorrent? I feel like I'm ready to go for a fresh install |
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| 00:16.12 | kristopolous | ctrl+alt+f1 |
| 00:16.16 | kristopolous | if you want to get out of the gui |
| 00:16.30 | dondelelcaro | kristopolous: hrm. OK. we're going to have to do some work here, unfortunately |
| 00:16.40 | kristopolous | well that's what i'm asking |
| 00:16.50 | kristopolous | should I just cut my losses and do a re-install? |
| 00:16.51 | dondelelcaro | kristopolous: see what happens when you run apt-get install perl-base=5.14.2-21+deb7u1; |
| 00:17.02 | dondelelcaro | kristopolous: up to you; this is totally fixable, but it's a bit complicated |
| 00:17.18 | kristopolous | hah |
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| 00:17.24 | dondelelcaro | kristopolous: the easiest thing to do is to use the aptitude package manager, and go through all of the broken packages, and force them to install the stable version |
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| 00:17.55 | kristopolous | http://i.imgur.com/pFf7mtY.png |
| 00:17.58 | dondelelcaro | kristopolous: which you can do by starting aptitude, trying to install pidgin, and then searching for ~b |
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| 00:18.03 | kristopolous | this isn't looking good |
| 00:18.23 | dondelelcaro | kristopolous: hrm... it shouldn't be prompting you to remove a kernel |
| 00:18.31 | kristopolous | i agree! |
| 00:18.32 | dondelelcaro | kristopolous: you can just abort that |
| 00:18.52 | kristopolous | but it's still removing lots of crap |
| 00:19.06 | dondelelcaro | kristopolous: hrm |
| 00:19.10 | kristopolous | oh fuck this |
| 00:19.14 | kristopolous | i'm doing a re-install |
| 00:19.16 | dondelelcaro | ok |
| 00:19.17 | kristopolous | i don't have time for this |
| 00:19.19 | kristopolous | thanks for your help |
| 00:19.21 | dondelelcaro | no problem |
| 00:19.26 | kristopolous | sorry about the profanity |
| 00:19.30 | kristopolous | this is just not happening |
| 00:19.32 | dondelelcaro | nah, it's fine |
| 00:19.34 | kristopolous | bbl |
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| 00:20.35 | kristopolous | so i just do wheezy + backports |
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| 00:20.46 | kristopolous | sorry im looking for my power brick for this external cd drive |
| 00:20.57 | Lolocafera | looks like my old set is unable to recognize my 8 GB USB key |
| 00:21.18 | Lolocafera | weird, my new one is able to boot on it |
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| 00:22.17 | kristopolous | what do you mean |
| 00:22.20 | kristopolous | unable to boot |
| 00:22.28 | user1 | hi guys, im looking for an terminal based alternative of spotlight |
| 00:22.37 | kristopolous | i know this sounds absurd but try plugging the usb stick on the other side of the laptop |
| 00:22.51 | kristopolous | many models have a usb 2 and usb 3 bus |
| 00:22.57 | kristopolous | with one side of the laptop having the newer usb 3 |
| 00:23.01 | kristopolous | and the other having an older usb 2 |
| 00:23.02 | Lolocafera | I have three USB2 ports |
| 00:23.07 | kristopolous | oh ok |
| 00:23.16 | kristopolous | you can also disable fancy usb in the bios |
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| 00:23.27 | kristopolous | anyway i gotta go and install this ... sounds like a PITA |
| 00:23.30 | kristopolous | bbl |
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| 00:25.11 | slurpymcdurpy | you mean like grep? |
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| 00:25.25 | slurpymcdurpy | or mlocate? |
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| 00:31.29 | centrx | user1, ^^ mlocate, find, what are you looking for? |
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| 00:33.12 | user1 | centrx: I would like to have something that is pre-cached, and therefore putting the result instant, like Mac OSX's mdfind |
| 00:33.39 | centrx | user1, mlocate is precached for filenames |
| 00:34.12 | centrx | user1, For full-text search, check out https://wiki.debian.org/FullTextSearch |
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| 00:35.09 | kristopolous | ok im on a different machine now |
| 00:35.53 | Lolocafera | What I'm wondering right now is, even though I'm not connected to anything, ficonfig -a should show me I'm connected to something? |
| 00:36.01 | Lolocafera | *ifconfig |
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| 00:37.35 | Lolocafera | I may or may not have a working wifi, but what should be the difference in ifconfig if I'm not connected? |
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| 00:38.46 | kristopolous | well it shows you if a driver has recorgnized and attached to your physical hardware |
| 00:38.57 | raspberrypifan | why does it take longer to install debian then unbutun |
| 00:39.27 | centrx | raspberrypifan, Did you decide to install more things in the installer? |
| 00:39.40 | raspberrypifan | no i picked the bare minimum and its been taking like an hour |
| 00:39.48 | centrx | raspberrypifan, minimal Debian installation should definitely be faster than Ubuntu |
| 00:39.50 | Lolocafera | kristopolous, you mean there should be a wlan0 entry? |
| 00:39.57 | kristopolous | likely |
| 00:39.59 | hercumer | exit |
| 00:40.02 | raspberrypifan | its very strange |
| 00:40.03 | centrx | raspberrypifan, is it formatting your hard drive thoroughly or something? |
| 00:40.14 | raspberrypifan | no |
| 00:40.21 | raspberrypifan | it just keeps adding packages |
| 00:40.31 | kristopolous | you are doing a net install |
| 00:40.32 | kristopolous | that's fine |
| 00:40.44 | kristopolous | it downloads a lot of the crap |
| 00:40.49 | centrx | ah that makes sense |
| 00:40.54 | kristopolous | ubuntu is usually on a dvd |
| 00:40.58 | kristopolous | and pulls it from the disk |
| 00:41.01 | kristopolous | that you put into the drive |
| 00:41.15 | raspberrypifan | well i mean i downlodead the debian dvd |
| 00:41.27 | raspberrypifan | how do i stop it from geting things from the net |
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| 00:42.18 | centrx | raspberrypifan, Is it doing "Unpacking" and "Setting up" now? |
| 00:42.26 | centrx | raspberrypifan, or is it doing "Downloading" a lot |
| 00:42.28 | raspberrypifan | its still in select and install software |
| 00:42.34 | raspberrypifan | only 49 percent |
| 00:42.37 | raspberrypifan | i might cancel and start again |
| 00:42.45 | kristopolous | is it hanging? |
| 00:42.50 | raspberrypifan | no |
| 00:42.52 | raspberrypifan | its running |
| 00:42.55 | kristopolous | then wait |
| 00:42.59 | kristopolous | is your internet slow? |
| 00:43.09 | raspberrypifan | well its certianly never fast enough |
| 00:43.13 | raspberrypifan | im gonna restart it |
| 00:43.20 | kristopolous | alright, whatevs |
| 00:43.30 | raspberrypifan | how do i make it not download stuff tho |
| 00:43.48 | kristopolous | you need a different ahem, download |
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| 00:44.26 | kristopolous | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.6.0/amd64/iso-cd/ ok see thta |
| 00:44.26 | centrx | raspberrypifan, if you've already spent the time downloading, it might be onto installing soon |
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| 00:44.38 | raspberrypifan | i mean i have the debian dvd 1 |
| 00:44.41 | kristopolous | there's this "netinst" |
| 00:44.43 | centrx | raspberrypifan, but yeah if you have a DVD which is really a 180MB netinst, it is doing a lot of downloading |
| 00:44.48 | kristopolous | that's like a mere 222 mb |
| 00:45.04 | raspberrypifan | ah |
| 00:45.09 | raspberrypifan | how did i end up with a netinst |
| 00:45.12 | kristopolous | and then like iso 1-a bajillion? |
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| 00:45.37 | kristopolous | that's the thing ... http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.6.0/amd64/iso-dvd/ even the dvds are um, 5 |
| 00:45.55 | raspberrypifan | hmm |
| 00:46.14 | kristopolous | i recommend the net install though |
| 00:46.17 | raspberrypifan | y |
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| 00:46.28 | kristopolous | cause it installs the latest stuff |
| 00:46.37 | kristopolous | these isos aren't made every night |
| 00:46.50 | kristopolous | so if you use this method then you'll get some old stuff |
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| 00:47.25 | kristopolous | and in the iso method you basically get every damn thing out there |
| 00:47.55 | raspberrypifan | well i only need this |
| 00:47.58 | kristopolous | you are probably not looking for 17.7GB of software |
| 00:48.00 | raspberrypifan | to build freeswitch |
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| 00:48.24 | kristopolous | alright well look, there's smaller more minimal distributions out there if you want |
| 00:48.34 | kristopolous | debian is middle ground |
| 00:48.46 | raspberrypifan | well i used ubuntu they told me to use debian |
| 00:48.47 | raspberrypifan | so i did that |
| 00:48.55 | kristopolous | ok so do it |
| 00:48.59 | kristopolous | and be patient |
| 00:49.02 | raspberrypifan | im doing that |
| 00:49.09 | raspberrypifan | i gotta keep reinstalling |
| 00:49.16 | raspberrypifan | everytime the script screws up |
| 00:49.21 | raspberrypifan | its many resintalls of debian |
| 00:49.24 | centrx | raspberrypifan, yeah it's just doing the downloading |
| 00:49.29 | centrx | raspberrypifan, what is screwing up? |
| 00:49.39 | raspberrypifan | the freeswithc installer, not debians fault |
| 00:49.44 | centrx | oic |
| 00:49.56 | kristopolous | sounds like you have some crappy software on your hands |
| 00:50.00 | kristopolous | i'm sorry |
| 00:50.04 | raspberrypifan | eh |
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| 00:50.11 | raspberrypifan | the freeswitch ppl say its perfect |
| 00:50.49 | centrx | raspberrypifan, "asterisk" is a powerful telephony program that is in Debian and completely free open-source software ;) |
| 00:51.21 | centrx | and other free telephony programs in Debian |
| 00:51.24 | kristopolous | hah, if the maintainers don't acknowledge fault, then the project has issues |
| 00:51.24 | raspberrypifan | well |
| 00:51.28 | raspberrypifan | asteriks is the other options |
| 00:51.34 | raspberrypifan | which ive played with |
| 00:51.45 | raspberrypifan | but i ended up doing better with the other screwy software |
| 00:53.28 | kristopolous | yeah, telephony is a mess |
| 00:53.33 | raspberrypifan | yea |
| 00:53.50 | raspberrypifan | well back i am to downloaindg more software |
| 00:53.56 | raspberrypifan | i dont understand the base system is already installed |
| 00:53.59 | kristopolous | the solutions are way way too complex and nobody seems to acknowledge this |
| 00:54.01 | raspberrypifan | why does it keep downloading more stuff |
| 00:54.12 | raspberrypifan | i do but htey call me crazy |
| 00:54.23 | kristopolous | it's very cultish |
| 00:54.33 | kristopolous | like the openldap community |
| 00:54.51 | raspberrypifan | yea i do hate that |
| 00:54.55 | raspberrypifan | you debian ppl seem nicer |
| 00:55.03 | raspberrypifan | though the fedora ppl were really nice too |
| 00:55.04 | kristopolous | im here to say that your claims are reasonable and that you are not insane |
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| 00:56.42 | kristopolous | yeah, debian people are ok ... there's plenty of nonsense in that community too |
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| 00:56.56 | kristopolous | but proportionally little |
| 00:57.07 | themill | raspberrypifan: what are you selecting at the tasksel stage of the installer? |
| 00:57.07 | centrx | raspberrypifan, What's your connection speed? |
| 00:57.31 | raspberrypifan | nothing |
| 00:57.37 | raspberrypifan | i havent been asked to select anything |
| 00:57.40 | kristopolous | a base install taking 2 hours is not unreasonable |
| 00:57.41 | raspberrypifan | i think i got 2 megs |
| 00:58.15 | centrx | raspberrypifan, The question is if it's hanging for some reason |
| 00:58.33 | centrx | raspberrypifan, or if you just have a really slow connection speed, or accidentally select a bunch of packages/tasks |
| 00:58.40 | raspberrypifan | apparently i got 1.8 mbps |
| 00:58.55 | raspberrypifan | it does keep chugging along |
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| 00:59.00 | centrx | That sounds like a lot |
| 00:59.23 | raspberrypifan | i mean i am in Ecuador |
| 00:59.28 | centrx | maybe yeah |
| 00:59.36 | kristopolous | ok i mean ... how long did you wait? |
| 00:59.39 | centrx | raspberrypifan, after installation is done, change your sources.list to use http.debian.net if it's not already using that |
| 01:00.04 | raspberrypifan | apparntly i had issues with that |
| 01:00.04 | centrx | raspberrypifan, that is a mirror redirector that should get you a server closer to you geographically and networkically |
| 01:00.15 | raspberrypifan | the inteeresting thing |
| 01:00.20 | raspberrypifan | is that i didnt even get to pick a mirror |
| 01:00.27 | raspberrypifan | its retriveing 16 files |
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| 01:03.21 | raspberrypifan | now its asking me to select software |
| 01:03.28 | raspberrypifan | what are the standard system utilities |
| 01:04.18 | kristopolous | if you have some kind of concern |
| 01:04.20 | kristopolous | untick everything |
| 01:04.27 | kristopolous | you'll be able to put things on after the install |
| 01:05.05 | raspberrypifan | ah now its moved to grub |
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| 01:05.32 | raspberrypifan | and its installed |
| 01:05.34 | raspberrypifan | taht was much better |
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| 01:07.14 | themill | if you're breaking and reinstalling things repeatedly, then a VM and snapshots would be worthwhile |
| 01:07.42 | raspberrypifan | yea |
| 01:07.46 | raspberrypifan | i made a snapshot |
| 01:07.47 | raspberrypifan | ok |
| 01:07.49 | kristopolous | there's some magic that port maintainers do too |
| 01:07.52 | kristopolous | with chroot |
| 01:07.58 | raspberrypifan | now issue its asking me for the cdrom again |
| 01:08.02 | raspberrypifan | when i try to use apt-get |
| 01:08.04 | raspberrypifan | whats chroot |
| 01:08.07 | kristopolous | i don't know the ceremony details |
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| 01:08.55 | kristopolous | https://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap like that |
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| 01:09.08 | kristopolous | again, this is major voodoo |
| 01:09.14 | kristopolous | so it's a huge time investment, potentially |
| 01:09.30 | raspberrypifan | oh lord that looks complex |
| 01:09.35 | raspberrypifan | so how do i fix this apt soruces issues |
| 01:09.38 | raspberrypifan | why does it use the cdrom |
| 01:09.40 | raspberrypifan | as a main source |
| 01:10.23 | kristopolous | well there's an /etc/apt directory |
| 01:10.32 | kristopolous | but be careful with what you edit there |
| 01:10.41 | raspberrypifan | why |
| 01:10.46 | kristopolous | i hosed a system yesterday adding something that a debian port maintainer told me to do |
| 01:10.54 | kristopolous | you may be fine |
| 01:10.58 | kristopolous | i'm terribly unlucky |
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| 01:11.43 | kristopolous | there's more formal tools for doing it |
| 01:11.48 | raspberrypifan | im probably more unlucky |
| 01:11.50 | raspberrypifan | like? |
| 01:12.25 | raspberrypifan | oh lord |
| 01:12.28 | raspberrypifan | im having some major issues now |
| 01:12.30 | raspberrypifan | with aptget |
| 01:12.32 | raspberrypifan | save me |
| 01:12.47 | kristopolous | hah |
| 01:12.51 | kristopolous | what did you do |
| 01:13.14 | raspberrypifan | ill past bin |
| 01:13.28 | raspberrypifan | i cant paste bin |
| 01:13.30 | raspberrypifan | cause i cant use ssh |
| 01:13.34 | raspberrypifan | because when i try to install it |
| 01:13.36 | raspberrypifan | it wont |
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| 01:13.38 | themill | If you didn't hit enter every 3 words it would be easier to follow what you're doing and what's not working. At the moment, it's tl;dr. |
| 01:13.42 | kristopolous | lol |
| 01:13.50 | raspberrypifan | i shall try not to write like in facebook |
| 01:14.10 | kristopolous | well i dunno then, do you have curl? |
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| 01:14.16 | kristopolous | or netcat? |
| 01:14.26 | raspberrypifan | yes netcat |
| 01:14.28 | raspberrypifan | how do i use that |
| 01:15.09 | kristopolous | do |
| 01:15.16 | kristopolous | command | nc 9ol.es 2000 |
| 01:15.23 | kristopolous | and i'll see it on my terminal |
| 01:15.51 | raspberrypifan | failed unknown host |
| 01:15.59 | kristopolous | hah you don't have dns working? |
| 01:16.11 | kristopolous | do 50.1.134.126 |
| 01:16.48 | raspberrypifan | unknown host |
| 01:16.49 | raspberrypifan | lord |
| 01:16.51 | raspberrypifan | what did i do |
| 01:16.55 | kristopolous | you don't have network |
| 01:16.56 | kristopolous | that's fine |
| 01:17.01 | kristopolous | try sudo dhclient eth0 |
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| 01:17.34 | raspberrypifan | it returns a command line |
| 01:17.41 | kristopolous | you probably have internet now |
| 01:17.53 | kristopolous | try curl ifconfig.me |
| 01:18.13 | raspberrypifan | no curl command |
| 01:18.25 | kristopolous | hah it was a nice try |
| 01:18.29 | kristopolous | try ping 8.8.8.8 |
| 01:18.42 | kristopolous | or see if route -n gives you anything promising |
| 01:18.46 | raspberrypifan | yes im getting responses |
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| 01:18.57 | kristopolous | ok good |
| 01:19.05 | kristopolous | well you didn't have internet before |
| 01:19.06 | kristopolous | and now you do |
| 01:19.09 | kristopolous | try that apt command again |
| 01:19.25 | raspberrypifan | i have held broken packages |
| 01:19.31 | kristopolous | always awesome |
| 01:19.46 | centrx | <centrx> kristopolous comes in for serious help on his totally broken machine, and he ends up helping like a dozen people with key info |
| 01:19.48 | kristopolous | fresh install and you have held broken packages? |
| 01:20.04 | raspberrypifan | yes |
| 01:20.05 | raspberrypifan | lol |
| 01:20.20 | centrx | :) |
| 01:20.40 | kristopolous | you can try sudo apt-get -f install |
| 01:20.52 | kristopolous | but you can also try buying a lottery ticket |
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| 01:21.42 | raspberrypifan | 0 upgraded 0 newly installed .. |
| 01:22.18 | kristopolous | brand new install + broken paackages |
| 01:22.19 | kristopolous | wtf |
| 01:22.26 | kristopolous | did you edit things in /etc/apt? |
| 01:22.35 | kristopolous | like i advised against? |
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| 01:23.00 | raspberrypifan | lol |
| 01:23.08 | raspberrypifan | i added an # to the cd entry |
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| 01:23.14 | raspberrypifan | i think i might get the netcat stuff to work |
| 01:23.17 | raspberrypifan | how do i do it again |
| 01:23.25 | raspberrypifan | now im getting connection refused |
| 01:23.26 | kristopolous | well take that off |
| 01:23.34 | Lolocafera | I'm gonna go for a netinst |
| 01:23.35 | kristopolous | here you can run it again |
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| 01:24.53 | seeker62 | need a room to discuss live mint14 issues |
| 01:24.59 | raspberrypifan | is it working on ur side? |
| 01:25.01 | kristopolous | im getting test |
| 01:25.02 | kristopolous | and hi's |
| 01:25.05 | kristopolous | yeah |
| 01:25.09 | raspberrypifan | ok |
| 01:25.20 | kristopolous | hah, you need to send me the output |
| 01:25.32 | kristopolous | do apt-get install ssh | nc 9ol.es 2000 |
| 01:25.34 | raspberrypifan | thats really cool, ill need to learn more about this net cat |
| 01:25.42 | raspberrypifan | ssh is broken |
| 01:25.45 | raspberrypifan | thats what i wanna install |
| 01:25.50 | kristopolous | yeah |
| 01:25.51 | kristopolous | i know |
| 01:25.59 | kristopolous | in fact |
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| 01:26.05 | kristopolous | sudo apt-get install -y ssh |
| 01:26.21 | seeker62 | where would i go to ask questions about mint14 |
| 01:26.26 | kristopolous | aha, try aptitude install openssh-server |
| 01:26.45 | raspberrypifan | its giving me a solution |
| 01:26.49 | kristopolous | well it depends on how specifically mint the question is |
| 01:26.54 | themill | seeker62: #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org |
| 01:27.31 | raspberrypifan | nothing happens again |
| 01:27.55 | raspberrypifan | maybe i need more sources ? |
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| 01:28.39 | themill | raspberrypifan: did you select the "standard" task at install time? |
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| 01:28.53 | raspberrypifan | hmm i dont remember having had an option |
| 01:29.09 | seeker62 | themill: thanks |
| 01:29.12 | themill | [11:03] <raspberrypifan> what are the standard system utilities |
| 01:29.50 | raspberrypifan | ah |
| 01:29.52 | raspberrypifan | i guess i didnt then |
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| 01:32.04 | raspberrypifan | it says most of the packages are not instalable |
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| 01:33.00 | centrx | raspberrypifan, it says? |
| 01:33.30 | raspberrypifan | unable to correct problems you have held broken packages |
| 01:33.58 | centrx | usually that is with a broken upgrade, not install |
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| 01:34.14 | centrx | Do you have the exact URL of the installer you used? |
| 01:34.43 | raspberrypifan | um no i just used the dvd |
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| 01:36.12 | centrx | raspberrypifan, but you downloaded it from somewhere? |
| 01:36.16 | centrx | raspberrypifan, or bought it at a fair? |
| 01:36.17 | raspberrypifan | long time ago |
| 01:36.24 | raspberrypifan | maybe i need a new dvd |
| 01:36.37 | centrx | raspberrypifan, how long? yeah old installer could be it, especially if you have a newer machine |
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| 01:37.06 | raspberrypifan | well a few months ago |
| 01:37.13 | centrx | should be okay |
| 01:37.27 | raspberrypifan | hm |
| 01:37.30 | centrx | raspberrypifan, is this a regular 64-bit Intel/AMD machine? |
| 01:37.35 | raspberrypifan | its on a vm |
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| 01:40.40 | kristopolous | wait you were doing a network install on a vm? |
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| 01:41.04 | raspberrypifan | i was using the dvd |
| 01:41.08 | raspberrypifan | which i thought was complete |
| 01:41.08 | kristopolous | for whatever reason, internetting sucks from vms |
| 01:41.18 | raspberrypifan | what iso should i get? |
| 01:42.02 | kristopolous | you are fine |
| 01:42.08 | kristopolous | but this would explain things being slow |
| 01:42.16 | kristopolous | i know it makes no sense, and things should be just as fast from the vm |
| 01:42.18 | raspberrypifan | ah |
| 01:42.19 | kristopolous | but this isn't the reality |
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| 01:43.07 | raspberrypifan | hmm |
| 01:43.16 | raspberrypifan | i think im gonna reinstall |
| 01:43.47 | kristopolous | ok, it's your time |
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| 01:45.22 | raspberrypifan | remind of the futurama thing |
| 01:45.29 | raspberrypifan | were fray says your wrong, my time is worthles |
| 01:45.37 | centrx | hah |
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| 01:45.59 | centrx | knows what he is talking about |
| 01:46.57 | raspberrypifan | im not patient but y'all have been really nice |
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| 01:48.05 | kristopolous | yeah i mean i'm doing this crazy go nuts re-install right now |
| 01:48.07 | kristopolous | it's taking stupid long |
| 01:48.16 | kristopolous | im at like hour 5 |
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| 01:48.25 | centrx | installs Debian once every three years and it works great |
| 01:48.47 | kristopolous | i wish i was in your boat |
| 01:48.59 | kristopolous | i mean really, this is a pretty selective sampling |
| 01:49.11 | kristopolous | i only come to this channel when things are majorily fucked |
| 01:49.17 | raspberrypifan | lol |
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| 01:53.54 | raspberrypifan | at what point do debian things stop being compatible with ubuntu |
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| 01:55.32 | centrx | raspberrypifan, packaging and versions is a big one |
| 01:55.56 | centrx | raspberrypifan, mixing binary Ubuntu packages in Debian not a good idea |
| 01:56.15 | raspberrypifan | hmm i suppose i dont understand how they can be so different |
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| 01:57.02 | centrx | raspberrypifan, Different release schedules, so major versions can be different |
| 01:57.16 | centrx | raspberrypifan, mixing these versions can cause broken system |
| 01:57.17 | raspberrypifan | dont they share hte same kernel and insides? |
| 01:57.21 | centrx | yes |
| 01:57.26 | centrx | It is a fundamentally similar system |
| 01:57.43 | centrx | raspberrypifan, but e.g., if you mix old version of Debian with new version of Debian, that causes problems as well |
| 01:57.52 | centrx | raspberrypifan, or mix old version of Ubuntu with new version of Ubuntu |
| 01:58.02 | raspberrypifan | ah so the problem is more about versions then anythign else? |
| 01:58.05 | centrx | raspberrypifan, so sometimes Ubuntu is newer and sometimes Debian is newer but fund |
| 01:58.06 | centrx | yes |
| 01:58.19 | raspberrypifan | interesting |
| 01:58.30 | raspberrypifan | i really enjoy ubuntu it just works even in the server version |
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| 01:58.56 | centrx | Ubuntu has done a lot of work in making things smooth and user friendly |
| 01:58.59 | raspberrypifan | heres the video |
| 01:59.00 | raspberrypifan | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qIOIHywqwTY |
| 01:59.26 | raspberrypifan | how do they manage to keep it free |
| 01:59.47 | centrx | it's less free in the hardcore sense |
| 02:00.02 | raspberrypifan | how so? |
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| 02:00.44 | centrx | raspberrypifan, They allow more non-free packages and have a different philosophy, e.g. local computer search sends to Amazon and Canonical, to get better results, but also it's basically spyware |
| 02:00.59 | raspberrypifan | ah yes ive noticed |
| 02:01.04 | raspberrypifan | i installed unbutu for my mom |
| 02:01.13 | raspberrypifan | in fact im teaching her how to reimage the machine as we speak |
| 02:01.19 | centrx | raspberrypifan, but in general, open-source companies make money by essentially selling guarantees, support, and add-ons to companies |
| 02:01.33 | centrx | cool, hi mom |
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| 02:01.55 | raspberrypifan | lol |
| 02:01.59 | raspberrypifan | shes in the states |
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| 02:02.09 | centrx | I've heard of it, the New World? |
| 02:02.16 | raspberrypifan | where r u |
| 02:02.30 | centrx | New World too |
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| 02:02.45 | raspberrypifan | im in ecuador |
| 02:02.46 | centrx | when I'm not commuting to the Moon |
| 02:02.55 | centrx | ah, New World all around! |
| 02:03.03 | raspberrypifan | yea |
| 02:03.40 | centrx | I heard those Old Worlders still use muskets and don't even watch Star Trek |
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| 02:06.52 | dimitry7 | Hi guys, is it possible to change a instance in amazon from a default tenancy to a dedicated one? |
| 02:09.30 | raspberrypifan | lol |
| 02:10.06 | centrx | dimitry7, /join #aws |
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| 02:11.21 | raspberrypifan | is amazon built on debian? |
| 02:12.02 | centrx | heavily customized something |
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| 02:15.00 | raspberrypifan | interesting |
| 02:16.43 | raspberrypifan | no wonder they say if u had to pay for linux dev it would have been billions |
| 02:17.08 | raspberrypifan | now it worked |
| 02:17.09 | raspberrypifan | i got ssh |
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| 02:22.26 | centrx | raspberrypifan, Yeah Debian includes 40,000+ packages that all work for 12 different architectures, it's a pretty seriously valuable collection of software |
| 02:23.35 | raspberrypifan | im glad some hippies created it lol |
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| 02:24.53 | none | good work folks |
| 02:25.13 | centrx | thanks |
| 02:25.24 | raspberrypifan | its really upsettings to me when i look at google nad facebook |
| 02:25.27 | raspberrypifan | and how all they want is money |
| 02:25.54 | centrx | so it goes |
| 02:26.03 | centrx | Some billionaires are definitely lacking in imagination |
| 02:26.05 | none | apt-get autoremove (apt fucked with the system and install java) |
| 02:26.18 | none | LOL |
| 02:26.30 | raspberrypifan | it just makes me wonder how much harder it would have been to learn all i know if we didnt have free software |
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| 02:27.07 | centrx | There's always a critical mass of freedom-loving scientists |
| 02:27.12 | kristopolous | s/harder/less\ necessary/g |
| 02:27.21 | raspberrypifan | what? no regex plz |
| 02:27.56 | centrx | hah |
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| 02:28.39 | none | i'll let it finish |
| 02:28.50 | none | apt seems to be having so much fun |
| 02:28.55 | raspberrypifan | i hate regex |
| 02:28.58 | raspberrypifan | its useful but confusing |
| 02:29.06 | themill | none: It's doing exactly what you asked it to do, so probably... |
| 02:29.07 | kristopolous | well um ... i'm making the contentious claim that free software puts more of the responsibility on me the user |
| 02:29.21 | kristopolous | and that it necessitates me learning things in order to get things done |
| 02:29.27 | kristopolous | as an artifact of the system |
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| 02:29.37 | kristopolous | but as I said, contentious |
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| 02:29.45 | raspberrypifan | that is true |
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| 02:29.48 | raspberrypifan | but its nice to learn |
| 02:29.50 | raspberrypifan | at least i like it |
| 02:29.57 | none | themill nice |
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| 02:30.25 | none | i ask to remove unused stuff then it downloads java |
| 02:30.27 | kristopolous | i mean sure ... but I shouldn't have to know how to rebuild an engine to drive to the store |
| 02:30.35 | raspberrypifan | i suppose |
| 02:30.37 | raspberrypifan | but i had to learn |
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| 02:30.39 | raspberrypifan | with my crap car anyway |
| 02:31.03 | kristopolous | aha! the need to learn is evidence of crappy things |
| 02:31.03 | kristopolous | yes |
| 02:31.17 | kristopolous | but hey, i'm part of the problem |
| 02:31.19 | raspberrypifan | sitll it was enjotable |
| 02:31.21 | kristopolous | anyway i need to go |
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| 02:31.25 | kristopolous | as long as it's fun |
| 02:31.27 | raspberrypifan | already have a nice night |
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| 02:31.31 | raspberrypifan | thanks for ur help |
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| 02:32.06 | kristopolous | night? i'll be back |
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| 02:32.11 | kristopolous | what a fantasy |
| 02:32.12 | kristopolous | ok |
| 02:32.13 | kristopolous | bye |
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| 02:32.49 | raspberrypifan | lol |
| 02:34.16 | none | you know what |
| 02:34.17 | none | fuck |
| 02:34.20 | none | linux is dead |
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| 02:36.25 | centrx | so deep |
| 02:36.43 | raspberrypifan | how is it dead |
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| 02:46.16 | raspberrypifan | bbl |
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| 02:46.44 | grubles | im on debian testing and vlc randomly exits |
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| 02:46.49 | grubles | why does this happen? |
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| 02:51.24 | joobus | does it happen all the time? |
| 02:51.54 | grubles | a lot of the time |
| 02:51.55 | grubles | pulse audio output error: PulseAudio server connection failure: Connection refused |
| 02:52.01 | grubles | i think it might be that ^ |
| 02:52.06 | grubles | although sound works in vlc |
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| 02:52.18 | joobus | start vlc from a terminal next time. if it crashes it will spit out some error. |
| 02:52.36 | grubles | yeah |
| 02:52.39 | grubles | thats the error |
| 02:52.43 | joobus | yeah that error might do it |
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| 02:53.02 | joobus | i use mplayer so haven't experienced this |
| 02:53.12 | grubles | but sound works though |
| 02:53.16 | grubles | so thats a little confusing |
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| 02:54.25 | grubles | hmmm this might have something to do with the fact there is no volume control on the xfce panel |
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| 02:58.56 | grubles | hm actually |
| 02:59.01 | grubles | [mpeg4 @ 0x7f84b8c15a00] Invalid and inefficient vfw-avi packed B frames detected |
| 02:59.04 | grubles | it just spat out that |
| 03:00.30 | grubles | main vout display error: Failed to resize display |
| 03:00.30 | grubles | Segmentation fault |
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| 03:01.28 | kristopolous | ok im back |
| 03:01.35 | joobus | bummer grubles |
| 03:01.41 | grubles | https://superuser.com/questions/771549/segmentation-fault-when-playing-avi-in-vlc-media-player |
| 03:01.46 | grubles | looks like the same bug as that ^ |
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| 03:09.33 | Resilience | hello to everyone |
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| 03:10.56 | Resilience | I have apt-updated/dist-upgraded, and when aptitude-ing, when I press the "g" command, it tries to install a lot of packages, but does not say why) dependencies, whatever) how can I know why those packages are going to be installed? |
| 03:13.31 | themill | Resilience: just running "aptitude -W install" may well show you. "aptitude search ~ainstall" will list them |
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| 03:15.55 | Resilience | themill, I'm running aptitude in interactive mode (text menus), I appreciate your answer for a command lines but... what about in interactive mode? how can I know? |
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| 03:43.30 | hypermist | how to check version of debian ? |
| 03:43.33 | hypermist | via terminal |
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| 03:43.56 | Resilience | hypermist, uname -a |
| 03:44.29 | hypermist | ty |
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| 03:45.06 | themill | Resilience: you can use the same search pattern in the interactive mode |
| 03:45.27 | Lolocafera | I don't understand the first sentence of this https://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst |
| 03:45.42 | themill | hypermist: /etc/debian_version -- but be aware that any answer to this question is making assumptions about what the local admin has done |
| 03:45.43 | Lolocafera | "This method of installing Debian requires a functioning Internet connection during installation." |
| 03:45.50 | themill | yeah.... it doesn't. |
| 03:46.41 | Lolocafera | My ethernet isn't natively supported by Debian. My wifi is supposed to, but at no point during installation I have been asked to configure it. |
| 03:46.49 | themill | (or more precisely, the netinst does not; the other images linked there will need internet access from the installer) |
| 03:47.10 | Lolocafera | ah, thanks |
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| 03:48.45 | Resilience | themill, I think you did not understand what I was asking. I have yet the list, but I do want the reasons why the packages are going to be installed, what package dependencies are forcing them to install |
| 03:49.02 | Lolocafera | when I use the ifconfig -a command, there's no wlan entry |
| 03:49.24 | Lolocafera | How do I get one? |
| 03:50.01 | Resilience | Lolocafera, cat /etc/network/interfaces and see what happens, if it is define make dmesg | grep wlan |
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| 03:50.25 | themill | Resilience: select any package from the list and it will tell you why. I suspect the answer is that you previously asked for it to be installed and then cancelled the operation. Look at aptitude's keep-all command if that's the case |
| 03:51.27 | Resilience | themill, I purged them with deb-orphaned and apt-get autoremove |
| 03:51.28 | Lolocafera | Resilience, it isn't defined in interfaces |
| 03:51.43 | Rusty1 | Lolocafera: is there wlan0 if you type, as root: iwconfig |
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| 03:51.54 | Resilience | Lolocafera, then you gto to define it, you can check for wap-supplicant, it is very easy |
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| 03:53.08 | themill | If the interface isn't in "ifconfig -a" then you need to fix that before trying to configure it |
| 03:53.25 | Lolocafera | Rusty1, "iwconfig: error while loading shared libraries: libiw.so.30: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory" |
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| 03:54.23 | Lolocafera | Resilience, wap-supplicant isn't installed |
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| 03:54.45 | Resilience | Lolocafera, yo have to define it in /etc/network/interfaces, I suggest you make a read on google on debian + wpasupplicant, it is really very easy, you only have to configure two lines in 7etc/network/interfaces, and put the config in another file |
| 03:54.52 | Rusty1 | Lolocafera: what is the wireless device, internal, or usb ? |
| 03:54.59 | Lolocafera | internal |
| 03:55.16 | Resilience | themill, how do I selct them? just pressing enter? I'm afraid that entering some packege it wil install all of them |
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| 03:55.33 | Resilience | Lolocafera, have you read how to configure the interface? read it, then install it and then configure it |
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| 03:55.42 | Rusty1 | Lolocafera: type: lspci , can you see it , and what chipset? |
| 03:55.51 | themill | Resilience: there's no point trying to configure an interface that doesn't yet exist... |
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| 03:56.10 | themill | Resilience: in the search results, there's no action to be performed. |
| 03:57.04 | Lolocafera | the device is 8086:08B3. It is supported by the kernel according to this page: http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_chipset.php?chipset=Intel |
| 03:57.07 | Resilience | themill, I refer in the list that is done by pulsing g.... |
| 03:57.23 | themill | Resilience: right, so that's why I told you to look at the search resuts |
| 03:57.58 | Lolocafera | where do I find the documentation on how to configure an interface? I've been on this for twelve hours... |
| 03:58.09 | themill | Lolocafera: there doesn't appear to be a driver available for that wireless chip. |
| 03:58.26 | Resilience | Lolocafera, search for debian + /etc/network/interfaces + wpasupplicant |
| 03:58.34 | themill | Resilience: please stop. |
| 03:58.47 | themill | Lolocafera: You don't need documentation to configure it, you need a driver for it first. |
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| 03:59.10 | Lolocafera | themill, it's supposed to be in kernel tree :( |
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| 03:59.13 | themill | Lolocafera: *after* you have a working device, you can configure it. https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse |
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| 03:59.34 | themill | Lolocafera: are you positive that's the right pciid? |
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| 03:59.47 | Lolocafera | Absolutely certain |
| 04:00.17 | ivanf | Hey all. Would Debian be a good idea to start with to start learning Linux without any knowledge of Linux? |
| 04:00.43 | themill | Lolocafera: I can find no kernel that claims to support that pciid |
| 04:01.10 | Lolocafera | damn... |
| 04:01.40 | Lolocafera | do drivers usually have dependancies? |
| 04:02.01 | themill | it'd be nice if that page listed when it was added to the kernel |
| 04:02.29 | Lolocafera | because managing dependancies without internet access is a massive PITA |
| 04:03.30 | t4nk524 | linux mint is good |
| 04:03.46 | Lolocafera | and why the hell does netinst Debian come with a tool that's installed without all its dependancies? |
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| 04:03.55 | themill | Lolocafera: it doesn't |
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| 04:04.13 | Lolocafera | iwconfig: error while loading shared libraries: libiw.so.30: cannot open shared object file: no such file or directory |
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| 04:05.26 | themill | Lolocafera: that package is on the netinst image. |
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| 04:05.53 | Lolocafera | yeah? well it seems it didn't come through |
| 04:05.55 | t4nk524 | I am using debian on my beaglebone. I am thinking of using Linux Mint Debian Edition MATE on another computer |
| 04:06.10 | Lolocafera | maybe it's unetbootin that messed it up |
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| 04:06.40 | Rusty1 | firmware-iwlwifi would be default on the netisnt themill ? |
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| 04:07.09 | Resilience | Lolocafera, have you installaed wireless-tools? |
| 04:07.15 | Lolocafera | heh, at least that one is already on my other usb key |
| 04:07.28 | Lolocafera | Resilience, I only installed what was on netinst |
| 04:08.45 | themill | Rusty1: no, there's no non-free fimrware on the netinst |
| 04:08.50 | Resilience | Lolocafera, try to make apt-get install wireless-tools, some pages say that it installs your library |
| 04:09.22 | Lolocafera | for information: I'm trying to set up my NEW computer, which doesn't have internet access for now. |
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| 04:10.23 | Lolocafera | so no, Resilience, I won't make apt-get install wireless-tools, that would be pointless. |
| 04:10.30 | Resilience | Lolocafera, I suppose that package will be in the netinst image |
| 04:11.02 | Resilience | Lolocafera, It will not be pointless, you have an an image with a little more software than the base installation... |
| 04:11.12 | Lolocafera | I'll check it up. |
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| 04:11.39 | themill | Fundamentally, installing packages isn't going to make the kernel support that hardware. |
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| 04:12.08 | Resilience | themill, and waht about the error message? it says something about a missing library, right? |
| 04:12.29 | themill | Resilience: the "it" is a userspace tool that requires the hardware to be supported by the kernel still |
| 04:13.04 | Lolocafera | Resilience, I mounted it on /media/key, how do I add it to my source.list? |
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| 04:13.29 | Resilience | Lolocafera, it should be already added, but I suppose you should be guided by themattbeballin |
| 04:15.44 | Lolocafera | there are two commented lines in sources.list that start with deb cdrom, I suppose they are the stuff? |
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| 05:01.11 | Urk | Nothing works except XChat and I have no idea why. I can't send mail, and get an error, indicating that I need to check my outgoing mail settings, but they are fine. I can't save drafts in Icedove (Thunderbird). I can't open any browser, and I can't open up LibreOffice files. All this started after booting for the first time today. Previously I was in Win XP, on a dual boot system, and upgraded defrag, and Java, and that was it. And ev |
| 05:01.11 | Urk | erything worked when I switced OS. I am running Debian linux stable. What do I do? |
| 05:01.19 | Urk | I see my desktop. |
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| 05:41.50 | OldOneEye | how do i install winetricks |
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| 05:46.45 | OldOneEye | how do i install winetricks |
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| 05:49.24 | Penix | !repeat |
| 05:49.24 | dpkg | Please don't immediately repeat your question if no one answers it. If no one answers, that means that either no one knows the answer to your question, no one is willing to answer it, or you haven't provided enough information. Ask me about <ask> or <sicco> if you need help phrasing your question. If you don't get an answer here, go ahead and try asking your question on debian-user@lists.debian.org |
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| 05:49.30 | Penix | apt-get install winetricks |
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| 05:52.13 | OldOneEye | thanx |
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| 06:47.03 | TomasCZ | OldOneEye, just fire a question. depending on it people will answer |
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| 06:47.19 | TomasCZ | (or not answer at all.) |
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| 06:49.50 | IIT | can anyone give some recommendation on what topic i can do thesis in linux ? ( something which also relates to mathematics ) |
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| 06:54.42 | TomasCZ | IIT, pkg: wxMaxima? I could recall one test with cluster of few(20?) computers searching for high prime numbers... But don't consider me qualified to answering your question. |
| 06:55.53 | babilen | IIT: You also want #debian-offtopic, but look into scheduling and the maths behind it. |
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| 06:56.47 | IIT | TomasCZ, ok :) |
| 06:57.01 | IIT | babilen, kernel scheduling can be a nice option. |
| 06:57.15 | IIT | ok joining #debian-offtopic |
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| 08:30.11 | hpym | any having any kind of issues with a backported emacs? |
| 08:30.42 | babilen | do you? |
| 08:31.11 | hpym | *anyone |
| 08:31.31 | hpym | apologies i have a laggy connection |
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| 08:32.15 | hpym | babilen: the system slowed down a bit after using it for a while so maybe.. |
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| 08:33.40 | Plastefuchs | Looking through packaging, i see a call to make in the rules file. Does that call the Makefile of the source package? ._. |
| 08:34.00 | Plastefuchs | *packaging of a source package |
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| 08:36.21 | babilen | hpym: Well, that isn't really much to go on. |
| 08:37.25 | babilen | Plastefuchs: debian/rules is itself a make file. You might want to read the documentation on http://mentors.debian.net/intro-maintainers to learn about packaging Debian and the various tools involved in that process. |
| 08:37.38 | babilen | dpkg: tell Plastefuchs -about mentors |
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| 08:43.02 | Plastefuchs | babilen: oh, i know that the rules file itself is a makefile, right now i wonder where i can find out what that single make in there does. I'll look into the mentors page again though. |
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| 08:43.53 | babilen | Plastefuchs: Well, paste your rules file somewhere (e.g. http://paste.debian.net ) and ask about it in #debian-mentors. I have *no* idea which "single make" you are referring to. |
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| 08:44.04 | babilen | (on irc.oftc.net / irc.debian.org) |
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| 08:44.39 | Plastefuchs | yes, i was rather unclear, sorry ^^; |
| 08:45.22 | hpym | babilen: so nothing to worry about? |
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| 08:48.54 | babilen | hpym: It's your system. Your problem description is quite vague and the "slowness" (that you also didn't measure/explain) could have been related to a lot of different things (even your perception). |
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| 08:50.06 | babilen | If you really have a problem with that then investigate further. Check if something is causing a high load on the system (htop, iotop, ...) or get a more detailed measurement of this slowness. Also investigate if it stops being slow if you close emacs and start using vim. ;) |
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| 08:55.17 | hpym | thanks babilen i will look into it further |
| 08:55.57 | woshty | Are there no jahshaka package(s)? |
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| 09:02.45 | woshty | Ah, nvm, seems old .. |
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| 09:06.49 | hht | hey, how to install gui in debian? |
| 09:07.09 | monod | you have to install gnome, or kde, or any of those |
| 09:07.18 | monod | I suppose you're talking about desktop interface |
| 09:07.22 | monod | hht^ |
| 09:07.25 | monod | hht ^ |
| 09:07.27 | hht | kde |
| 09:07.31 | monod | hmm |
| 09:07.42 | hht | apt-get install kdm this works |
| 09:07.52 | hht | but apt-get install x-window-system-core kde this doesnt work |
| 09:08.06 | monod | I'll suggest you to pm dpkg |
| 09:08.13 | monod | !tell hht kde |
| 09:08.17 | monod | lol, wrong |
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| 09:12.13 | hht | package kde is not available after that command |
| 09:12.47 | babilen | dpkg: tell hht -about install kde |
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| 09:32.02 | bahram | hi to all |
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| 09:34.19 | bahram | when i run #apt-get update show this Ign cdrom://[Debian GNU/Linux 7.6.0 _Wheezy_ - Official amd64 DVD Binary-1 20140712-14:11] wheezy Release.gpg |
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| 09:36.27 | arcke | bahram: your sources.list contains a reference to DVD media |
| 09:37.43 | arcke | https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList |
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| 09:51.46 | bahram | arcke:more thanks |
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| 10:02.02 | pie870 | salve |
| 10:02.06 | pie870 | Ciao |
| 10:02.08 | pie870 | !list |
| 10:02.09 | dpkg | pie870: Ã possibile scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-7.6.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso ! |
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| 10:13.13 | hht | how to install gedit? |
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| 10:14.37 | Blokker | euhm ... the same way you install most software on debian? |
| 10:15.24 | bazhang | apt-get install gedit hht |
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| 10:42.20 | mr_foobar_baz | Hi there, I upgraded from wheezy to jessie to resolve some issues with mumble (tried backporting but gave up because of too many dependencies). Everything works fine now, except the script /etc/acpi/lid.sh is no longer executed when the laptop lid is opened or closed. What can I do to fix that? |
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| 10:45.11 | hht | how to run gedit with su privillages ? |
| 10:45.30 | mr_foobar_baz | hht: sudo gedit |
| 10:45.41 | hht | mr_foobar this doesnt work |
| 10:45.50 | hht | im in kde |
| 10:45.57 | mr_foobar_baz | hht: if you have sudo and configured it correctly, yes. it works. |
| 10:46.11 | mr_foobar_baz | hht: why doesn't it work? |
| 10:46.43 | hht | it says: "No protocol specified" Cannot open display |
| 10:46.58 | mr_foobar_baz | hht: how are you running the "sudo gedit" command? |
| 10:47.07 | hht | from terminal |
| 10:47.28 | hht | in kde |
| 10:47.41 | mr_foobar_baz | hht: what does "printenv DISPLAY" give you? |
| 10:48.00 | hht | :0 |
| 10:48.13 | hht | << this |
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| 10:48.59 | mr_foobar_baz | hht: if you run another GUI application like this, do you get the same error? |
| 10:49.13 | hht | yes |
| 10:49.17 | hht | i cant run kate also |
| 10:49.21 | hht | with sudo |
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| 10:49.25 | mr_foobar_baz | hht: did you try "gksudo gedit" ? |
| 10:49.39 | mr_foobar_baz | hht: or instead of typing it in the terminal, try ALT+F2 |
| 10:49.42 | hht | command not found |
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| 10:50.04 | mr_foobar_baz | hht: apt-get install gksu |
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| 10:50.46 | hht | mr_foobar_baz thank you |
| 10:50.53 | mr_foobar_baz | hht: does it work now? |
| 10:50.59 | hht | yes |
| 10:51.03 | mr_foobar_baz | hht: nice |
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| 10:51.43 | mr_foobar_baz | hht: still odd that sudo wouldn't work. maybe it would work with another terminal, maybe something isn't configured correctly, idk. |
| 10:52.02 | hht | i have installed kde manually on it maybe thats why |
| 10:52.27 | mr_foobar_baz | Can anyone help me with the issue I described earlier? |
| 10:52.36 | mr_foobar_baz | regarding acpi lid.sh |
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| 10:57.54 | Roland- | hello I have this simple line i my network interface config |
| 10:58.00 | Roland- | which is ignbored for some reasons |
| 10:58.00 | Roland- | http://paste.debian.net/122198/ |
| 10:58.07 | Roland- | if I run it from cmd it works |
| 11:01.16 | Blokker | hht, you can not run a graphical program with the rights of user x in a session run by user y. That's why you can not start a graphical program with su rights or with sudo from the console |
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| 11:01.30 | Blokker | if you really need to do it that way install and use gksu |
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| 11:02.10 | mr_foobar_baz | Blokker: I told him about gksu and that worked for him |
| 11:02.22 | Blokker | ah, missed that, my apologies |
| 11:02.40 | mr_foobar_baz | Blokker: Do you have any advice regarding my issue regarding acpi lid.sh not being executed on lid close in jessie? |
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| 11:03.00 | hht | hm, i have problem with nginx, i have preconfigured it with 1 rtmp listening server, and when i add second rtmp listening server i can't connect to it http://pastebin.com/4TJxd2T5 |
| 11:03.16 | Blokker | not immidiatly since my lid has always performed as expected |
| 11:04.03 | mr_foobar_baz | Blokker: I see. It worked fine in wheezy |
| 11:04.56 | mr_foobar_baz | Blokker: Well, in Jessie systemd usually suspends when closing the lid. But I disabled that because I want it to run my custom script in lid.sh instead which only suspends when no external monitors are connected |
| 11:05.10 | Roland- | seems like networking in debian still remains quite a challenge when you have more than one device. |
| 11:05.10 | mr_foobar_baz | Blokker: If you always want to suspend then I guess you don't have that problem. |
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| 11:05.30 | mr_foobar_baz | Roland-: I just use wicd... |
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| 11:06.10 | Roland- | for desktop sure. |
| 11:06.18 | Blokker | hht, does that configuration even work? Can you restart nginx with it, because either i can't count or you have a } too many |
| 11:06.52 | hht | Blokker finally i v solved it, i had to put different stream keys |
| 11:07.09 | Blokker | can't count :p |
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| 11:42.37 | Roland- | guys I need some help please |
| 11:42.39 | Roland- | https://dpaste.de/Qnhh |
| 11:42.50 | Roland- | for some reasons, it is not working, the second ip is not responding |
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| 11:43.28 | Roland- | to be honest, https://dpaste.de/V9Fi is not looking good |
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| 11:57.38 | tomboy64 | i 'm having a package conflict. a new package says it wants python-twisted (>=12.1), but only 12.0.0-1 can be installed |
| 11:57.42 | tomboy64 | i'm running wheezy |
| 11:57.49 | tomboy64 | what am i missing? |
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| 12:01.03 | arcke | tomboy64: maybe its a backport? python-twisted 13.2 is in backports |
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| 12:01.30 | arcke | what package is requiring this? |
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| 12:02.54 | dutchfish | cHarNe2, pptpd: /etc/ppp/pptpd-options | there are several ways, one is apt-get install --reinstall -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confmiss" , but make sure you have backups before you do that |
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| 12:03.25 | dutchfish | cHarNe2, any conf file will be overwritten of that same package |
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| 12:04.44 | tomboy64 | arcke: i have deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy-backports main contrib in my sources.list |
| 12:05.19 | tomboy64 | arcke: python-txsocksx |
| 12:05.20 | dutchfish | !tell cHarNe2 about confmiss |
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| 12:06.25 | CieNTi | hey people, im doing this: TightVNC(winXP) --> x11vnc(debian). I have no communication problems and all is seeing just right. But my problem comes when i try to write ~ as example or _. I think somewhere I messed something with charset but I can't find it |
| 12:07.32 | CieNTi | I'm writing this text here via PuTTY(WinXP) --> OpenSSH(debian)-->screen-->weechat and I can write ~ _ á ñ perfectly. I just configured UTF8 and works perfect but ... how do I fix the vnc part ? |
| 12:07.45 | CieNTi | x11vnc and openssh are both in same machine |
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| 12:09.16 | arcke | tomboy64: aptitude -t wheezy-backports pyhton-txsocksx should install the package and the dependent python-twisted from backports |
| 12:09.54 | tomboy64 | arcke: will the -t switch do the same with apt-get? |
| 12:09.54 | arcke | and make sure your package list is up to date |
| 12:10.05 | tomboy64 | i did |
| 12:10.07 | arcke | tomboy64: i think so, check man apt-get |
| 12:10.17 | tomboy64 | thanks, will do |
| 12:10.19 | arcke | apt-get update |
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| 12:20.28 | tomboy64 | arcke thanks, that did it |
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| 12:35.01 | function9 | hi guys, I'm thinking of trying out debian kde. Does debian use systemd? |
| 12:35.31 | jelly-home | function9: not yet; next release will have it by default |
| 12:35.40 | function9 | uhuh |
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| 12:36.01 | function9 | thank you, downloading now bye :) |
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| 12:40.07 | l1ar | how can i detect my sound cards list on alsa? |
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| 12:49.27 | Bluewolf | Hi, I am trying to install Wheezy 7.6.0 xfce on my Compaq laptop but I cant connect to the internet to continue on with the installation. My in built wireless is telling me this - device not ready (firmware missing)? |
| 12:49.39 | kleanchap | What are some good VPN service providers that will work well with Linux? |
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| 12:52.44 | CieNTi | hey people, im doing this: TightVNC(winXP) --> x11vnc(debian). I have no communication problems and all is seeing just right. But my problem comes when i try to write ~ as example or _. I think somewhere I messed something with charset but I can't find it |
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| 12:52.49 | CieNTi | I'm writing this text here via PuTTY(WinXP) --> OpenSSH(debian)-->screen-->weechat and I can write ~ _ á ñ perfectly. I just configured UTF8 and works perfect but ... how do I fix the vnc part ? |
| 12:52.51 | CieNTi | x11vnc and openssh are both in same machine |
| 12:52.56 | jelly-home | Bluewolf: probably easier to use unofficial images with firmware to get wifi working at installation time |
| 12:53.06 | jelly-home | dpkg, tell Bluewolf about firmware images |
| 12:53.12 | jelly-home | dpkg, tell Bluewolf about install xfce |
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| 12:53.48 | jelly-home | Bluewolf: however you'll have to tell those you want xfce explicitely -- that's what the second line from dpkg was for |
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| 12:56.40 | Bluewolf | jelly-home: Why does it have to be complicated, it should just simply install. It wont connect to the internet on the live CD even if I feed it the information. I can't download or install any thing on it because it does not have internet? |
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| 12:58.21 | Bluewolf | When computers give me grief like this I end up hating them :( |
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| 13:21.51 | mixx | i'm on debian/kde, my volume works, but modifying it in the taskbar doesn't change it |
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| 13:22.37 | mixx | (but changing in alsamixer works) |
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| 13:25.12 | mixx | i changed the master channel it's ok now |
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| 13:26.27 | hooligan132 | whos tried out wine 1.7? I am sure there been some regressions in gdi32+ in 1.6.2 because I had a vst plugin that used to work poorly but it worked over all in fst but now it wont work in gui fst mode at all ... but in dizzy it works really nice except for one thing it crashes when you close it but the visuals are broken when they wernt before |
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| 13:28.54 | adghrtthrtdf | Is this the right place to ask for wireless configuration? |
| 13:28.59 | chrisb | which is more secure stabel > unstable > testing ? |
| 13:30.16 | CieNTi | chrisb: about "most updated" -> testing. about "more secure" surely will be testing but ... you can work today and maybe not tomorrow because some broken things |
| 13:30.27 | CieNTi | testing is soooo bleeding edge hehe |
| 13:30.29 | hooligan132 | i got debian sid at work and its been running basically perfectly for 3 years with out incident chrisb |
| 13:30.31 | CieNTi | i use half way, jessie |
| 13:31.43 | adghrtthrtdf | I have created two interfaces woth the following commands "iw dev wlan0 interface add ap0 type master" and "iw dev wlan0 interface add mon0 type monitor". Mon0 is used for sniffing with scapy and ap0 is configured for hostapd with dnsmasq. When i run them individually i dont get any errors. When i run hostapd and then scape i get the following errror : "command failed: Too many open files in system (-23)" |
| 13:33.07 | hooligan132 | adghrtthrtdf check out ulimit |
| 13:34.47 | CieNTi | adghrtthrtdf: your nick was writed while fapping? xDDDDDD |
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| 13:35.28 | adghrtthrtdf | Yes. Very loudly |
| 13:35.31 | adghrtthrtdf | ))) |
| 13:35.40 | CieNTi | xD |
| 13:35.59 | CieNTi | i dont know a reply for your quesiton but try hooligan132 reply |
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| 13:36.13 | adghrtthrtdf | So as i understand it is perfectly possible to use one card for two purposes in two modes? |
| 13:36.20 | adghrtthrtdf | But the problem lies somewhere else |
| 13:36.25 | adghrtthrtdf | And i need to set ulimit? |
| 13:37.17 | CieNTi | not from debian, but from openwrt, i know it's possible depending on card |
| 13:37.27 | CieNTi | some models can go as ap and client |
| 13:37.30 | CieNTi | but some others not |
| 13:37.39 | CieNTi | maybe is your problem too, but i don't know |
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| 13:38.04 | CieNTi | first, try to find if your card supports it on debian with your drivers |
| 13:38.12 | CieNTi | then try to fix if it's possible |
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| 13:39.15 | CieNTi | ulimit is to limit the use of resources so .. maybe can fit on "too many open files" |
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| 13:42.10 | G66k | Hello Good People |
| 13:42.38 | G66k | i Was wondering if there any program like ams or turbomail for debian ? |
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| 13:51.13 | l1ar | How can I detect alsa cards? |
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| 13:52.57 | l1ar | Does anyone know? |
| 13:53.11 | mtn | l1ar: lspci in a terminal |
| 13:53.36 | l1ar | WHAT?! |
| 13:53.44 | l1ar | I mean hw:x,x |
| 13:53.58 | mtn | cleans off his crystal ball |
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| 13:54.30 | l1ar | Don't clean off so much |
| 13:54.37 | mtn | ok |
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| 13:56.04 | blixten | l1ar l1ar p4n75 0n f1r3 |
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| 13:57.14 | G66k | i Was wondering if there any program like ams or turbomail for debian ? |
| 13:57.23 | l1ar_ | where can i get list of cards in that fucking alsa format e.g. pcm "hw:0,0" |
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| 14:03.01 | l1ar | Anyone? |
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| 14:03.24 | blixten | lspci -v -v |
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| 14:03.58 | mtn | heh |
| 14:04.09 | l1ar | IN ALSA FORMAT!! |
| 14:04.16 | mtn | ha ha |
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| 14:05.13 | l1ar | something like this http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Asoundrc#Plugins |
| 14:05.22 | l1ar | Like this example |
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| 14:06.34 | l1ar | Hardware code, or so, like this pcm "hw:1,0" |
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| 14:07.22 | l1ar | Now experts are away, nice to see |
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| 14:08.20 | G66k | i Was wondering if there any program like ams or turbomail for debian ? |
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| 14:10.42 | brontosaurusrex | G66k: this https://pypi.python.org/pypi/TurboMail/ ? |
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| 14:12.26 | wakd | l1ar, 'aplay -l' states card and device # |
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| 14:15.19 | Bluewolf | How do I run a .deb in the terminal? |
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| 14:15.27 | Bluewolf | Whats the command? |
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| 14:16.32 | brontosaurusrex | Bluewolf: dpkg --help |
| 14:16.34 | mtn | Bluewolf: you don't run debs, but you can install them |
| 14:16.55 | wakd | Bluewolf, clarify "run" ... for yourself and us |
| 14:18.26 | Bluewolf | mtn: I mean install them, how do I do that on a live cd - Wheezy 7.6.0 xfce. I dont have the right firmware on my laptop which I am trying to install, I don't have internet which is what I am trying to fix? |
| 14:18.42 | Bluewolf | wakd: Answer is above |
| 14:19.12 | CieNTi | hey people, im doing this: TightVNC(winXP) --> x11vnc(debian). I have no communication problems and all is seeing just right. But my problem comes when i try to write ~ as example or _. I think somewhere I messed something with charset but I can't find it |
| 14:19.13 | mtn | Bluewolf: as you were told: dpkg. so, try man dpkg in a terminal |
| 14:19.22 | jelly-home | Bluewolf: dpkg -i foo.deb |
| 14:19.23 | CieNTi | I'm writing this text here via PuTTY(WinXP) --> OpenSSH(debian)-->screen-->weechat and I can write ~ _ á ñ perfectly. I just configured UTF8 and works perfect but ... how do I fix the vnc part ? |
| 14:19.30 | CieNTi | x11vnc and openssh are both in same machine |
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| 14:21.27 | jelly-home | CieNTi: x11vnc has lots of options related to problems with keyboard layout and combokeys, eg. -sloppy_keys, -xkb, have you read the manual and tried any? |
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| 14:22.13 | CieNTi | i just fixed the _ symbol, and had problems with > too, fixed now, but the ~ (ALT with 126 on keypad) .... i can't fix it |
| 14:22.22 | CieNTi | and i can't write ~ (!!!) |
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| 14:22.53 | CieNTi | i got _ with "-nomodtweak -skip_lockkeys" |
| 14:23.00 | Bluewolf | jelly-home: Thanks, ah what is the root password on a live CD, the command wont work unless its root? |
| 14:23.03 | CieNTi | but sloopy_keys is new for me |
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| 14:23.36 | jelly-home | Bluewolf: no idea, if there's sudo try using that |
| 14:23.50 | wakd | Bluewolf, on live CD you can sudo |
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| 14:24.18 | jelly-home | CieNTi: I'm not sure Alt+numkeys will work at all |
| 14:25.15 | jelly-home | CieNTi: as a workaround, you can set US keymap both local and remote and that one ought to work |
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| 14:25.25 | CieNTi | sloppy don't helps me |
| 14:25.39 | CieNTi | jelly-home: but then, how can i write à (spanish n qith tilde on it) |
| 14:25.50 | CieNTi | for my layout is right to L |
| 14:25.55 | CieNTi | english haven't |
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| 14:26.12 | Bluewolf | jelly-home: wakd: mtn: Thanks, I think I got it for now :D |
| 14:26.33 | CieNTi | or do you know an alternate to ALT+kp to write ~? |
| 14:26.42 | CieNTi | because I use almost only for that |
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| 14:27.20 | jelly-home | one hopes your normal layout would have tilde _somewhere_, perhaps with AltGr |
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| 14:30.11 | idodeisuke | my irc client say, that #debian-next is invite only. How do I get an invite? |
| 14:30.47 | catern | how do I get a preseeded Debian installer to skip the very first prompt where I select "install"? |
| 14:31.16 | wakd | idodeisuke, #debian-next is on irc.oftc.net, not on freenode |
| 14:31.54 | idodeisuke | wakd, thx. |
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| 15:00.15 | lancelot_of | hi there |
| 15:00.30 | lancelot_of | anyone with video embedding in beamer experience? |
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| 15:02.07 | lancelot_of | i'm trying to embed videos in my beamer presentation. i udes both multimedia and media9 packages, both used and compiled correctly, but none of them works. On slides no videos are loades and played, only the blanck/white frames, depending on the mothod used. I wonder if there is or not any working method. Please can you help me? |
| 15:02.32 | CieNTi | jelly-home: there is any x11vnc alternative ? (i have an already run display and want to serve vnc on that display, not creating a new one) |
| 15:02.50 | CieNTi | i searched and tried about 3 more but do not works |
| 15:02.51 | jelly-home | CieNTi: xrdp perhaps? |
| 15:03.00 | lancelot_of | ohcibi, sorry, i used all suitable readers for the purpose, okular and adobe acrobat (all versions >=9.0) but the problem seems to be not reader dependent |
| 15:03.09 | CieNTi | i thought was not the same, let give a try |
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| 15:03.41 | jelly-home | I don't know whather it opens a new session or can attach to an existing one |
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| 15:04.35 | CieNTi | ok i say you in a second |
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| 15:05.43 | lancelot_of | can it depend on platform?i read something working on liunux mint, but i don't care of it, i want it working on debian. |
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| 15:09.47 | lancelot_of | none sufficiently experienced in my case to answer me? |
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| 15:12.13 | Blokker | CieNTi, do you have any problems connecting x11vnc to a running display? It should be a simple matter of 'x11vnc -display :0' in case you want the first display. This command however has to be run as the same user as the one running that session. Beware that there is no encryption and no password |
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| 15:13.48 | Blokker | you could also try krfb which is KDE's desktop sharing |
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| 15:17.58 | berarma | how can I make the installer download packages locally from apt-cacher-ng? |
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| 15:20.46 | Blokker | i take it the cache is on another machine in the network? |
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| 15:22.42 | Blokker | berarma: if i'm not mistaken you can direct the netinstall image to your own host and directory instead of choosing a mirror from the list |
| 15:22.44 | berarma | it's the host for a set of virtual machines |
| 15:23.07 | berarma | I see I can input manually the repository mirror URL, so I should use that I guess, right? |
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| 15:23.18 | berarma | ok, I see |
| 15:23.20 | Blokker | i've gone a different approach by creating a preseed file so i don't see the installer when i install new machines |
| 15:23.23 | Blokker | yes, that would be it |
| 15:23.30 | Blokker | first the domain/ip |
| 15:23.40 | Blokker | and on the next screen the correct directory structure |
| 15:24.00 | berarma | thanks Blokker |
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| 15:27.31 | Sagar | Hello, is there any package to make debian a setbox for torrent files? |
| 15:28.11 | bazhang | Sagar, seedbox? |
| 15:28.19 | Sagar | yes |
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| 15:28.23 | Sagar | sorry for the typo |
| 15:28.27 | bazhang | what about rtorrent |
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| 15:28.49 | Sagar | any guide? |
| 15:28.54 | l1ar | how can i set the default card in alsa by the name? |
| 15:28.57 | Sagar | and what generally people use? |
| 15:28.57 | bazhang | tons |
| 15:29.01 | Sagar | can u tell me? |
| 15:29.22 | bazhang | rtorrent guide <----- search terms |
| 15:29.32 | l1ar | Hello? |
| 15:29.45 | Blokker | i use utorrent myself |
| 15:30.04 | Sagar | i mean websites likes torrentz.eu what they use? |
| 15:30.19 | Blokker | you mean a tracker |
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| 15:30.29 | Sagar | yes |
| 15:30.36 | Sagar | so that i can seed my torrents |
| 15:30.38 | Sagar | and keep them alive |
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| 15:31.03 | Sagar | is this also good? |
| 15:31.03 | Sagar | http://www.torrent-invites.com/showthread.php?t=244011 |
| 15:31.39 | Sagar | i need a easy and minimal setup which doesn't use much space |
| 15:32.08 | Blokker | apperantly utorrent can also be used as tracker: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_BitTorrent_tracker_software |
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| 15:33.36 | idodeisuke | I got debian sid and when I try to use bumblebee, it gives me the following error: [ERROR]Cannot access secondary GPU - error: Could not load GPU driver tried everything. Here's my bumblebee.conf: http://pastebin.com/pyGzY104 |
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| 15:33.51 | antonhynkel | hi |
| 15:34.06 | antonhynkel | can someone help me with this? http://abload.de/img/2014-09-21-172946_1924sshy.png |
| 15:34.15 | Sagar | Blokker: i need to setup on debian server (VPS Box) instead |
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| 15:34.45 | antonhynkel | delorean dark should be completely dark, but some areas of the window are still white |
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| 15:46.39 | Okee | I am getting an error, indicating that an automatic file system check of the root filesystem failed. A manual fsck must be performed, then the system restarted. The fsck should be performed in maintenance mode with the rot filesystem ed in read-only mode. The root filesystem is currently mounted in read-only mode. A maintenance shell will now be started. After performing system maintenance, press CONTROL-D to terminate the m |
| 15:46.39 | Okee | aintenance shell, and restart the system. Give root password for maintenance or type Control-D to continue. Should I type fsck after giving the root password? |
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| 15:47.25 | arcke | Okee: dont know if you should, but i would do it |
| 15:47.40 | arcke | fsck -f or -F |
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| 15:48.32 | arcke | Okee: io mean fsck -y |
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| 15:50.56 | Okee | arcke> Why fsck -y instead of fsck |
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| 15:51.28 | arcke | because if there are manby errors fsck will prompt you if it should try and fix it |
| 15:51.44 | thoonai | I could need some help debugging my ldap/kerberos setup which does not work |
| 15:51.52 | arcke | -y will try to repair all errors |
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| 15:52.03 | Okee | arcke> I see. Thanks for letting me know. |
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| 15:54.01 | Okee | About the only thing that may have done all this was that I updated Java in Win XP; I am running dual boot. But I didn't write on the LInux partitions. I have come to the conclusion that XP should be run in virtual box. I don't use it for anything except to print out things, since I can't get the linux print driver to work. |
| 15:54.17 | imMute | Any packaging gurus around? We're using dpkg/apt for an embedded project. Right now, to make the package we have a folder that is setup exactly how "dpkg -b" wants it. That feels like a total hack, but the other end (debuild or debhelper) seem more geared towards projects that have upstream tarball releases (which we do not). Anyone got any suggestions? |
| 15:54.40 | Okee | Well everything is up and running agian. |
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| 16:13.19 | thoonai | ok Im off |
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| 16:14.51 | aberlin | hey, i downloaded the *,iso -file, i never done an installation with an usb-drive can i simply dd the *.iso on the drive and it will work as boot medium? or is there more to consider? |
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| 16:15.21 | thoonai | aberlin: it should, yes |
| 16:15.31 | aberlin | thx |
| 16:15.51 | thoonai | aberlin: but think to dd of=/dev/sdX not sdX1{2,3} |
| 16:16.06 | xand | and make sure you get the right drive :) |
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| 16:16.16 | thoonai | fdisk -l |
| 16:16.35 | thoonai | xand: happened to me once T.T |
| 16:17.03 | xand | me too |
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| 16:17.17 | thoonai | *retard high five* |
| 16:17.20 | xand | I managed to stop it after it had just started, and recreated the partition table on there |
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| 16:18.47 | thoonai | aberlin: if it doesnt work, check for bios settings and that the usb key is bootable (not every brand works, kingston usually though) |
| 16:20.20 | thoonai | *does |
| 16:22.15 | Hans-Martin | depends more on the bios than on the stick I think |
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| 16:24.00 | thoonai | Hans-Martin: depends, I had bad experience with takems and corsair stuff, they didnt boot on the machines kingston ones worked fine |
| 16:24.19 | thoonai | Hans-Martin: and I set up 20+ different machines |
| 16:24.33 | aberlin | because its sounds very dangerous: sdb1 is the device name? dmesg : [42882.076186] sdb: sdb1[42882.079788] sd 7:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI removable disk |
| 16:24.51 | thoonai | Hans-Martin: so I guess its also the usb controller in the usb key |
| 16:24.57 | Hans-Martin | thoonai: ick - I did not try it often but when I did even the el-cheapo USB drives worked. |
| 16:25.24 | thoonai | aberlin: have to go, xand or Hans-Martin can help you |
| 16:25.35 | thoonai | Hans-Martin: mostly everything works fine |
| 16:25.47 | thoonai | now Ive to be off, get my bus, bye :) |
| 16:26.03 | Hans-Martin | aberlin: sdb1 is partition 1 on the usb drive, if you want to put an iso image on the drive you need to overwrite everything including the partition table |
| 16:26.45 | Hans-Martin | aberlin: before overwriting it you should unmount any mounted partition of the drive, of course. |
| 16:27.09 | Hans-Martin | aberlin: otherwise the mounted filesystem might get a bit confused... |
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| 16:27.18 | Hans-Martin | bye thoonai |
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| 16:28.35 | CieNTi | jelly-home: sorry went to eat hehe xrdp create a new X so is not what i wanted. And back to tight+x11vnc i can't find a combination to write ~ :S it's frustrating hahaha |
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| 16:28.59 | CieNTi | Blokker: no no, i don't have problems with connecting to an existant X. My problem is I can't write ~ |
| 16:29.15 | CieNTi | i already fixed other character-related problems (-_Ãñ<> mainly) |
| 16:29.20 | CieNTi | but i can't write ~ |
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| 16:30.00 | CieNTi | because in spanish keyboards there is no main, secondary or third combination so you need to do ALT+126 to get ~ |
| 16:30.11 | galex-713 | Hello |
| 16:30.15 | CieNTi | tried pressing AltGr+key and Alt+Ctrl+key but .. nope |
| 16:30.41 | galex-713 | Iâm trying to make DCP-J752DW work with Debian, it seems it has a free driver: http://download.brother.com/welcome/dlf006863/dcpj752dw_cupswrapper_GPL_source_3.0.0-1.tar.gz |
| 16:31.08 | nurupo | putting software i download from the net into /opt is so troublesome, i can't simply move a folder from ~/Downloads to /opt with file manager because /opt is root-only |
| 16:31.08 | nurupo | does it make sense to give my user permissions to write to /opt or is it a bad thing? |
| 16:31.48 | galex-713 | But I canât :/ I donât know what to do, I tried to âmakeâ under unpriviledged user into brcupsconfpt1, and launched the script in cupswrapper under root, but it shows errors |
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| 16:32.34 | CieNTi | jelly-home: Blokker: ... found ... AltGr+4 - release - space = ~ |
| 16:32.38 | CieNTi | for god sake |
| 16:32.40 | CieNTi | xD |
| 16:32.42 | CieNTi | what a combination |
| 16:32.48 | berarma_ | nurupo: no, you should keep them on your home. Move it to /opt (or rather /usr/local) only in case you want them to be available to all users (on multi-user systems), then do it as root. |
| 16:33.12 | Blokker | good work CieNTi :) |
| 16:33.15 | Hans-Martin | nurupo: you can do it temporarily, but then you might just as well do a "mv" command in a sudo shell. |
| 16:33.26 | Blokker | altgr+4 gives me ¼ :p |
| 16:33.34 | CieNTi | hahahahahaha what a loose of time omg xD like 3 hours fighting the system |
| 16:33.35 | CieNTi | xD |
| 16:33.43 | CieNTi | do you have spanish keyb ? |
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| 16:34.17 | Hans-Martin | galex-713: I've got a brother printer that works pretty well, so it should generally work, but it's been a long time since I installed it. |
| 16:35.09 | nurupo | berarma_: it's a single user system, "personal computer" :) afaik, /usr/local is for software that is bulilt by a user from source, when /opt is for pre-build software that is not from your package repository |
| 16:35.14 | Hans-Martin | galex-713: what are the errors that you get? can you make a pste? |
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| 16:35.19 | Hans-Martin | s/pste/paste/ |
| 16:35.45 | arcke | nurupo: its not neccesarily bad, but you could more easily mess up the system as user |
| 16:35.49 | nurupo | putting things in home is a resonable suggestion |
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| 16:36.36 | arcke | and its still only /opt |
| 16:36.44 | berarma_ | nurupo: I'd use home in your case |
| 16:36.59 | nurupo | berarma_: okay, thanks |
| 16:37.08 | arcke | personally, i would still install in $HOME |
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| 16:38.04 | Blokker | it's your own personal system, use it the way you want, not how someone else thinks it should be used |
| 16:38.49 | nurupo | Blokker: my question was if allowing my user to write to /opt would cause any issues |
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| 16:39.11 | Blokker | not afaik |
| 16:39.25 | berarma_ | I prefer to use only /usr/local for everything not from Debian instead of using /opt, but that might be just my preference |
| 16:39.47 | Blokker | on a multi user system it could potentially become a security risk, but i take it if you can set it up, you have root privs anyway |
| 16:39.53 | CieNTi | for me .. fuck*ng the system was and is the best way to learn it hahahaha so .. try, test and get results. Will be your best memorizing and learning method hahahaha |
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| 16:40.54 | Blokker | well, i prefer not to f*ck my production systems :p takes to long to set back up again. Calculated risks? yes, but experiments in a vm? hell yeah |
| 16:41.02 | CieNTi | not the production |
| 16:41.05 | CieNTi | the test one |
| 16:41.06 | CieNTi | xD |
| 16:41.30 | CieNTi | or as you said, the vm one xD |
| 16:41.59 | Blokker | too bad i sometimes f*ck up my network. my machine doesn't mind, but the vbox vm running windows of a hard drive that is accessed over an smb share doesn't really like it |
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| 16:42.32 | CieNTi | hahahahahahahahahahahaha |
| 16:42.50 | CieNTi | nope, windows and suddenly-removed-drive do not work pretty well |
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| 16:43.42 | CieNTi | well once the ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ worked it's time to work with it xDDDD lets code for a bit |
| 16:43.59 | Blokker | it's verry strange. It then refuses to boot, no matter what i do. But if i attach it to another windows vm, boot that vm, shut it down again then i can boot the original one in safe mode, do a reboot and it boots into normal mode. God i hate windows at such times |
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| 16:47.10 | galex-713 | Hans-Martin: yep, wait a bit |
| 16:48.35 | Bluewolf | Hi, I am trying to install wheezy xfce on my compaq laptop. Its not connecting to the internet which intern is causing the install to fail. I managed to get the wireless firmware and it connects but when I run the install it keeps requesting me to re-enter the password. So I have now decided to use the eth0 cable and its not picking that up as well so how do I get it to so I can install, which should be so easy to do and its not!? |
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| 16:54.00 | Blokker | slaps his head onto the desk |
| 16:54.16 | Blokker | attempting to find a haystack in a needle is always gonna fail |
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| 16:55.47 | Okee | My credit union just did a site upgrade, and it is no longer possible to download pdf. Is there a "save as PDF" plugin that I can install? There is such an animal for windows, but what about Debian Linux? |
| 16:55.48 | berarma_ | Bluewolf: which password? |
| 16:56.27 | Blokker | berarma_, i would assume his wireless key (WPA) |
| 16:56.30 | Sir_Designer | Okee just switch to Mac OS X. Everything in the display is PDF based, as is saving stuff in the browsers/. |
| 16:56.31 | Riastradh | Okee: Firefox can print pages to PDF or PostScript. |
| 16:56.38 | Bluewolf | berarma_: My WiFi password. |
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| 16:57.13 | berarma_ | re-enter?? |
| 16:57.34 | Okee | Riastradh> OK, I had switched to Chrome not long ago because the Javascript didn't work correctly in Firefox for Linux. Thanks for letting me know. |
| 16:57.40 | berarma_ | You just re-enter your password when you're setting it, don't you? |
| 16:57.49 | Riastradh | Chromium might too, I dunno. |
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| 16:59.04 | berarma_ | Okee: if you have the printer server installed you should already have a PDF printer in your system |
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| 17:00.24 | Okee | berarma_> I don't think it is installed. I think I only have the OpenPrinting installed, and never could get it to work in Debian. I frequently go to windows in dual boot to print things. |
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| 17:00.48 | Okee | berarma_> What is the name of the printer server? |
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| 17:03.47 | berarma_ | Okee: cups |
| 17:04.41 | berarma_ | in tasksel it's the print server |
| 17:04.55 | Sir_Designer | alternatively, https://packages.debian.org/squeeze/cups-pdf |
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| 17:05.14 | Okee | berarma> I have cups installed, but it doesn't give me the option of printing to PDF from chrome. From what I have read online, Chromium will let you print to PDF by default. |
| 17:05.42 | Okee | berarma> I could never figure out how to get the Samsung ML2510 to print in Linux. Supposedly it is Linux compatible, but it isn't easy to setup. |
| 17:06.13 | berarma_ | you might not have cups-pdf installed but if your browser already does it you don't need it |
| 17:06.24 | Okee | berarma> Looks like you can print in Chrome as well, and you just have to go to the print function. |
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| 17:08.43 | Sir_Designer | Okee this is universally true across OSes. File > Print in any application, select the pdf writing mechanism. |
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| 17:14.55 | Okee | Sir_Designer> Something is wrong. It is only printing the first page. |
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| 17:20.01 | Sir_Designer | does it print only one page of multipage anything, not pdf" |
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| 17:30.24 | justanotheruser | hey, I followed this and added the backports and updated, but apt-get doesn't know of pepperflashplugin --- https://wiki.debian.org/PepperFlashPlayer/Installing |
| 17:30.32 | galex-713 | Hans-Martin: sorry, I went to eat, forgot to say that ^^ |
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| 17:31.34 | galex-713 | Hans-Martin: http://paste.debian.net/122243/ |
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| 17:33.30 | Okee | Sir_Designer> I don't think the "save as" PDF feature works correctly in Chrome. |
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| 17:35.04 | raspberrypifan | well i try sudo apt-get install git-core it says no install candidate |
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| 17:37.26 | Okee | Sir_Designer> I ended up using Chromium to save the PDF document. I can't see the document as PDF in the Chromium browser, but the saved product is good. In contrast, I can see the product in Chrome, but the saved product is bad. |
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| 17:42.21 | galex-713 | Hans-Martin? |
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| 17:44.11 | Sir_Designer | Okee sorry to hear that. alas, my joke about using OS X was only a little bit of a joke. FOSS software, it is what it is. |
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| 17:46.07 | zleap | hi |
| 17:46.31 | zleap | just downloaded the 64bit iso file and tried to check with md5sum -c file.iso and it seems to be producing a stack of errrors |
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| 17:47.20 | zleap | i have this in the MD5SUM file 35cb247e924a972d1d63742425da9fe3 debian-7.6.0-ia64-CD-1.iso |
| 17:48.05 | berarma_ | zleap: show us the errors in a pastebin please |
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| 17:48.28 | zleap | if I run md5sum file.iso then i get the same checksum as in the MD5SUM file |
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| 17:49.10 | berarma_ | then it's ok |
| 17:49.21 | zleap | yeah |
| 17:49.38 | zleap | i just wondered why i am getting errors i will put the errors in pastebin anyway hold on |
| 17:50.28 | babilen | zleap: Are you sure that you have an Itanium processor? |
| 17:50.33 | babilen | dpkg: tell zleap -about ia64 |
| 17:50.43 | babilen | dpkg: tell zleap -about why amd64 |
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| 17:51.13 | zleap | i was downloading the 32 bit and 64 bit cd isos so i have install media |
| 17:51.16 | zleap | http://pastebin.com/QqbgtsWX |
| 17:51.29 | Gforce | hey guys.while trying to update,I get this warnning. |
| 17:51.29 | Gforce | Reading package lists... Done |
| 17:51.30 | Gforce | W: GPG error: http://http.us.debian.org wheezy Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 8B48AD6246925553 Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (7.0/wheezy) <ftpmaster@debian.org> |
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| 17:52.13 | zleap | babilen, so i need AMD64 not Ia 64 |
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| 17:52.27 | StephenS | Planet WEEZY |
| 17:52.29 | babilen | zleap: It depends on your processor, but that is quite likely |
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| 17:52.45 | babilen | StephenS: Can we help you? |
| 17:52.51 | StephenS | Might be |
| 17:53.04 | StephenS | I'm so New Orleans |
| 17:53.04 | zleap | mainly if i need to install on the 64 bit processor for someone or give someone a 64 bit cd |
| 17:53.10 | zleap | i have 32 bit |
| 17:53.11 | Gforce | How can I fix it? |
| 17:53.14 | babilen | StephenS: Do you have a Debian related question? |
| 17:53.22 | zleap | ok thanks |
| 17:53.32 | berarma_ | zleap: Now I see, you should run "md5sum -c MD5SUM" |
| 17:53.34 | babilen | Gforce: Mind trying another mirror (e.g. http.debian.net or ftp.us.debian.org) ? |
| 17:53.36 | StephenS | babilen no man |
| 17:53.40 | StephenS | why would you think that? |
| 17:53.43 | zleap | ah |
| 17:53.44 | zleap | thanks |
| 17:54.11 | babilen | StephenS: Okay, #debian is a technical support channel supporting Debian and its users. Please take it elsewhere, ta! |
| 17:54.22 | Gforce | babilen:I'll try. |
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| 17:55.41 | StephenS | ta-ta! |
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| 17:56.41 | zleap | Bercik, that seems to tell me it can't read any of the files |
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| 17:59.00 | sylar | anyone know how to compile amd64 kernel on an i386 arch? |
| 17:59.13 | sylar | I get an error about x86_64-linux-gnu-gcc-4.4: not found |
| 18:00.00 | jelly-home | sylar: set up an amd64 chroot? |
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| 18:00.16 | berarma_ | zleap: you have to pass it the file that has the checksum list, it will try to check all the files in there |
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| 18:00.37 | zleap | i have done |
| 18:00.53 | zleap | MD5SUMS has the checksums and file names of the iso files I have downloaded |
| 18:01.07 | berarma_ | it'll fail for all the files you haven't downloaded but it will check the one you have |
| 18:01.33 | zleap | i will double check the filenames match |
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| 18:04.22 | galex-713 | Why isnât Compiz-fusion available in wheezy and jessy ? |
| 18:04.33 | cra1g321 | cos i'm near sure it's dead |
| 18:04.40 | angs | I am running Debian 7 on a linux board. I want to detect a pin change of a GPIO (1 to 0). Is there any poll() like a function to do that on Debian? |
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| 18:05.27 | zleap | angs, is this on the pi |
| 18:05.55 | angs | zleap, not it is based on imx233 processor. I asked it on #posix, but they say it is OS specific question |
| 18:06.08 | zleap | ok |
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| 18:07.36 | babilen | angs: ##c and ##linux are worth a try too |
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| 18:08.18 | angs | thank you |
| 18:08.44 | galex-713 | Seems Brother printers free drivers need something called LPR Driver whose I canât find sources :/ |
| 18:08.49 | galex-713 | How can I be sure itâs free? |
| 18:08.57 | Gforce | even with changing mirrors,every time I get GPG error on updating.How can I fix it? |
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| 18:10.15 | Gforce | any idea? |
| 18:11.01 | sylar | jelly-home, will it work? my filesystem stuff is i386 |
| 18:11.16 | raspberrypifan | is git not installed in debian? |
| 18:11.21 | jelly-home | sylar: it will work as long as your kernel is amd64 |
| 18:11.45 | jelly-home | raspberrypifan: by default? No, install it if you need it |
| 18:11.55 | raspberrypifan | but it says package nto found |
| 18:12.02 | jelly-home | ,v git |
| 18:12.03 | judd | Package: git on i386 -- squeeze: 1:1.7.2.5-3; squeeze-backports: 1:1.7.10.4-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1:1.7.10.4-1+wheezy1; wheezy-backports: 1:1.9.1-1~bpo70+2; jessie: 1:2.1.0-1; sid: 1:2.1.0-1; experimental: 1:2.1.0+next.20140815-1 |
| 18:12.05 | Gforce | What should I do? |
| 18:12.32 | jelly-home | raspberrypifan: are you sure you're using Debian? Pastebin your the complete contents of /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 18:13.32 | raspberrypifan | hm i think its ok now |
| 18:13.36 | raspberrypifan | but ive reinstall debian |
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| 18:13.50 | Gforce | No idea? |
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| 18:16.47 | PerfDave | What's a way to end up with the same packages installed on system B as system A? Used to be something with dpkg --get-selections etc. IIRC. |
| 18:17.28 | jelly-home | PerfDave: /msg dpkg aptitude clone -- seems to be the latest thing |
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| 18:18.32 | jelly-home | Gforce: care to show the complete output of an aptitude update in a pastebin, and contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list as well? |
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| 18:18.57 | jelly-home | Gforce: oh, and output of "apt-cache policy debian-archive-keyring" too |
| 18:19.03 | Gforce | again tryed another mirror.and it worked.thanks.:) |
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| 18:25.56 | funnybunny | cp: cannot stat â/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/pango/1.6.0/module-files.d/libpango1.0-0.modulesâ: No such file or directory |
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| 18:26.21 | funnybunny | while trying to compile a kernel because of a udev update during dist-upgrade to testing |
| 18:26.38 | funnybunny | dpkg says libpango-1.0-0 is already the latest version |
| 18:26.38 | dpkg | funnybunny: okay |
| 18:26.48 | funnybunny | ikr ;) |
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| 18:51.01 | cowlicks | I want to use a new mac address for every new connection. Is there an easy way to do this? |
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| 18:51.30 | babilen | cowlicks: macchanger |
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| 18:52.13 | teraflops | cowlicks: just use a pre-up command on /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 18:52.45 | teraflops | oh boy im having a dejabu |
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| 18:54.44 | cowlicks | investigating..I'd also like to stop broadcasting previous ssids in my probe packets |
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| 19:04.30 | mixo | what's the recommended way to connect a midi keyboard to a soundfont in debian? |
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| 19:08.12 | Eduard_Munteanu | I've filed a bug requesting debootstrapped tarballs at https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=762392 |
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| 19:09.55 | Eduard_Munteanu | mixo, use timidity or fluidsynth, possibly with qtsynth as a GUI |
| 19:10.22 | Eduard_Munteanu | I hope cdimage.debian.org is an appropriate package. |
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| 19:17.14 | mixo | i started timidity using "timidity -iA -B2,8 -Os -EFreverb=0" and then connected my keyboard to timidity using aconnect 24:0 128:0, but i have still no sound |
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| 19:20.39 | somiaj | mixo: do you use pulseaudio or alsa? |
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| 19:21.42 | mixo | somiaj: i'm not sure, how can i know? |
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| 19:26.08 | skyark | hi there!!!!. I'm making an arcade with a really old PC (penitum II 260 MHz) only for snes nes and sega genesis games, with an wah!cade (is like advancedMAME), want to doit whit SLIM and xinit to autologin and only run wah!cade lika standalone any tips or advice? |
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| 19:33.00 | somiaj | mixo: ps fax | grep pulse |
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| 19:34.19 | somiaj | skyark: emulators may run fairly slow on such a machine, but there are ways to modify inittab if all you want is an autologin and don't have to use a display manager |
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| 19:45.37 | skyark | somiaj: modify the inittab do you have an example or a guide or anything i can read? |
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| 19:47.24 | mosez_ | hi, where can i get older netinstall images? like 7.3 or something like that... http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/7.3.0/amd64/iso-cd/ there are only the md5sums available oO |
| 19:47.39 | somiaj | skyark: http://www.debianadmin.com/how-to-auto-login-and-startx-without-a-display-manager-in-debian.html |
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| 19:48.03 | somiaj | skyark: then just set up .xsession to run any applications you need, might not even need a windowmanager if you are just gonna run that full screen. |
| 19:48.38 | somiaj | mosez_: why do you need an older netinstall image? The difference between the point releases is small, and you will want all teh security/bug fixes that come with it |
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| 19:48.48 | plowunder | can anyone explain how to remove the last two lines I added to IPTABLES via the iptables command line tool |
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| 19:49.35 | skyark | somiaj: thanks, i'm going to read! |
| 19:50.32 | mosez_ | somiaj: because all older vagrant box definition won't work anymore... |
| 19:51.09 | mosez_ | all of my definitions... |
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| 19:51.43 | somiaj | this should not be the case, wheezy updats should not change abi's at all. But I don't reconize what a vagrant box definition is |
| 19:52.22 | somiaj | This question came up before and I think you can still create them from jiddigo but the old images in iso form are removed as they do take u p a good amount of space thinking only the curretn point release should be needed |
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| 19:53.24 | Hans-Martin | galex-713: sorry from the paste I don't see what exactly went wrong. You may want to have a look at the install script (it's probably a shell script) to see what it tries to do. |
| 19:53.47 | mosez_ | than it sucks that i have to remove older definitions because the isos are not available anymore :( |
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| 19:54.37 | somiaj | mosez_: What are describe should not be the case and might be a bug. What is not working with the newer 7.5 images? |
| 19:55.50 | mosez_ | somiaj: they are working of course... but it's not possible anymore to build older version, i always need to define more current versions because the older isos are not available anymore |
| 19:56.10 | galex-713 | Hans-Martin: I think I also sent you the link of the tarball |
| 19:56.25 | galex-713 | And I saw the script and tried to do things like it tries to but it doesnât work |
| 19:57.25 | mosez_ | but it's the same for ubuntu as well... the older ubuntu definitions have to be deleted as well :( |
| 19:57.26 | somiaj | mosez_: well I don't know vagrant box so I don't understand what the issue is, is it mearly the iso name is different, what about the definitions is not working |
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| 19:59.28 | somiaj | mosez_: Debian installs should not change that much between point releases, can you identify what about the old definition isn't working. Other option is keep a copy of the netinstall image you need on your system |
| 20:00.08 | mosez_ | somiaj: i'm building vm images with packer in a specific format to start vms with vagrant. and within the definition you have to define a download url for the iso that will be the base of the installation. and currently i've got definitions for debian-7.{3,4,5,6}. all definitions expect the last can be deleted because they are not reproducable as the isos do not exist anymore. |
| 20:00.30 | jalalsfs | How to save video from DVD to my computer? |
| 20:00.52 | mosez_ | and as i should not store iso's within a git repo and i dont want to host it on my own i have to drop it. |
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| 20:05.37 | somiaj | mosez_: yea since it is a link issue, hosting it yourself would be helpful. I wonder if you could request a feature from cdimage.debian.org |
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| 20:07.19 | somiaj | mosez_: my suggestion would use a link that points at a current image with a generic name, this way as the links change you can just change the pointer to the current image |
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| 20:07.56 | somiaj | mosez_: seems cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/ would point o the current point release, but inside that directory they are still labeled by the release version so that woudln't work by default |
| 20:08.55 | somiaj | mosez_: I don't know if they would think of ading that feature to their download sight, you may also be able to write a local redirector that redirects to the correct link to allow a download so you won't have to host the images, but only change the link the redirection points at and not have to change the actual definitions. |
| 20:09.27 | somiaj | writing a local redirect link would be my suggestion. |
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| 20:11.18 | somiaj | My guess is they would rather you host the image locally to lesson load on their servers so not sure if cdimage.debian.org would want to set up a static download link you could use. |
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| 20:17.23 | ljksf | somiaj: sorry i got disconnected earlier; how can i check for alsa/pulseaudio |
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| 20:19.41 | somiaj | ljksf: you can see if the pulse daemon is running, 'dpkg -l | grep pulse' |
| 20:20.23 | ljksf | somiaj: http://paste.debian.net/122275/ |
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| 20:21.17 | user1 | hi guys |
| 20:21.42 | thoonai | user1: sup. |
| 20:22.05 | somiaj | ljksf: looks like you have it installed, my guess is it is running 'ps fax | grep pulse' |
| 20:22.24 | somiaj | ljksf: I forget if timidy can deal with pulse or not, you have ot see if it can in its docs |
| 20:23.41 | ljksf | somiaj: http://paste.debian.net/122276/ |
| 20:24.18 | ljksf | somiaj: can it be an issue that it is trying to start on the wrong sound card? i've seen on some thread |
| 20:24.21 | somiaj | yea pulseis running |
| 20:24.23 | ljksf | hw:0 or something like that |
| 20:24.57 | somiaj | well you need to talk to your card though pulseaudio, did you configure timidy to do that, is it possible to configure it to? (check the man page I don't know the software that well) |
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| 20:26.05 | ljksf | not sure, thanks for your help i'll check |
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| 20:41.14 | somiaj | ljksf: my guess is you will have to disable pulseaudio to get sound |
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| 21:09.08 | cusco | how do I find out the fs in a partition |
| 21:09.57 | tsam | mount |
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| 21:13.45 | cusco | its not mounted |
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| 21:15.36 | thoonai | cusco: fdisk -l |
| 21:15.50 | thoonai | cusco: fdisk -l | grep device e.g. sda1 |
| 21:17.06 | thoonai | oh yeah thats wrong, but fdisk /dev/sda1 or cfdisk /dev/sda1 should do it |
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| 21:41.14 | d0pe_ | anyone can help me please? |
| 21:41.52 | NiLon | if you don't ask a question then you can not be helped |
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| 21:42.03 | d0pe_ | ok |
| 21:42.16 | d0pe_ | i think ill pastebin the issue im new too debian coming from fedora |
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| 21:42.48 | d0pe_ | http://pastebin.com/ZALB2ugX |
| 21:42.54 | d0pe_ | Thats the issue im having.... |
| 21:43.00 | d0pe_ | Cant update... cant install irssi |
| 21:43.32 | mkonecny | d0pe_, you need to do "apt-get update" |
| 21:43.49 | cafuego | You need an apt source that's not the DVD |
| 21:43.54 | mkonecny | d0pe_, remove "install", that's for installing a specific package |
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| 21:44.06 | cafuego | Or pop the DVD in the drive |
| 21:44.39 | d0pe_ | same error with apt-get update |
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| 21:45.41 | NiLon | I would just remove the dvd stuff if you have access to internet |
| 21:45.50 | d0pe_ | ? |
| 21:45.53 | cafuego | But then add an http source |
| 21:45.55 | d0pe_ | i dont get what you mean ? |
| 21:46.08 | d0pe_ | i installed the os from a dvd the dvd is no longer in the drive |
| 21:46.10 | d0pe_ | ;s |
| 21:46.17 | NiLon | there is apt sources in /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 21:46.19 | cafuego | d0pe_: Your debian is set up to hrab packages from the DVD, not from the internet (apart from security updates) |
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| 21:46.57 | d0pe_ | cafuego: what should i do then ? |
| 21:47.03 | cafuego | d0pe_: The warnings you're seeing is because the DVD isn't in the drive. |
| 21:47.23 | cafuego | d0pe_: You can either insert the dvd, then apt-get update && install irssi *or* add a network apt source. |
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| 21:47.41 | cafuego | d0pe_: The latter is easier if your internet access is fast and reliable |
| 21:47.45 | cafuego | and cheap |
| 21:47.59 | d0pe_ | so what is the command |
| 21:48.05 | d0pe_ | im on a 50/5 connection |
| 21:48.13 | cafuego | https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList#Example_sources.list_for_Debian_7_.22Wheezy.22 |
| 21:48.28 | Brigo | d0pe_, is not a command, you have to edit the sources.lst file. |
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| 21:48.52 | cafuego | If you make your /etc/apt/sources.list look like that example, you'll be set. |
| 21:49.04 | d0pe_ | i dont know how to do that. |
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| 21:49.18 | cafuego | d0pe_: As root, edit /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 21:50.06 | d0pe_ | bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied |
| 21:50.11 | d0pe_ | when im logged in as root |
| 21:50.26 | cafuego | You need to use an editor, 'nano /etc/apt/sources.list' |
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| 21:51.21 | d0pe_ | i just copy the example into the editor |
| 21:51.21 | d0pe_ | ? |
| 21:51.26 | cafuego | Yup |
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| 21:51.44 | cafuego | And put a # on front of the lines with 'cdrom' |
| 21:51.51 | cafuego | (or remove them) |
| 21:52.04 | d0pe_ | do i delete all that i see ? in editor? |
| 21:52.07 | d0pe_ | then paste? |
| 21:52.13 | cafuego | d0pe_: That works |
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| 21:54.44 | d0pe_ | cafuego: thanks alot |
| 21:54.49 | d0pe_ | everything working fine |
| 21:55.00 | cafuego | win! |
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| 21:55.19 | d0pe_ | ill drop my bnc after i setup everything. |
| 21:55.24 | d0pe_ | be back soon |
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| 21:58.03 | cusco | thoonai: only shows partition type that is 'ED' |
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| 22:00.44 | thoonai | cusco: oh |
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| 22:02.14 | RoyK | cusco: partition type doesn't make any difference |
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| 22:11.27 | thoonai | cusco: sorry for the lag |
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| 22:18.32 | thoonai | hey any idea, why nfs mount does change the uid and the gid of mounted folders to random numbers? |
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| 22:22.15 | KjetilK | thoonai, are you sure they are random? |
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| 22:22.43 | KjetilK | if you need consistency, you need to map them |
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| 22:23.02 | KjetilK | found that to be a tedious task and gave up doing it... |
| 22:23.15 | KjetilK | anyway, some discussion at http://serverfault.com/questions/514118/mapping-uid-and-gid-of-local-user-to-the-mounted-nfs-share |
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| 22:24.11 | thoonai | KjetilK: mostly yes |
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| 22:24.27 | Knaldgas | What's the reason for Debian not offering Awesome 3.5.* in any but Experimental? |
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| 22:24.51 | thoonai | KjetilK: I have like user1 on both systems both with uid 1000 |
| 22:25.07 | thoonai | but I cant access on the mounting system |
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| 22:25.42 | KjetilK | thoonai, right, but imagine the situation where there is user1 with uid 1000 on two systems, and they aren't actually the same user... |
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| 22:26.07 | thoonai | KjetilK: ok makes sense |
| 22:26.22 | KjetilK | so, I suppose they wanted to play it safe and make sure you had to do something extra to make it work |
| 22:26.23 | thoonai | whats the first thing to check? |
| 22:26.37 | KjetilK | dunno, I gave up on this last time I checked |
| 22:26.54 | KjetilK | but I have to figure it out within the next few days myself :-) |
| 22:27.14 | thoonai | even root can't access this #$%$%^ folder |
| 22:27.24 | thoonai | so this should not be possible, or? |
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| 22:27.51 | KjetilK | guess so :-) |
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| 22:28.44 | KjetilK | sorry, I can't be of much more help |
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| 22:29.33 | thoonai | I have 2 times the same system, the one time it actually works fine I can rw, the second system is somehow fubatr |
| 22:30.07 | thoonai | I have 2 times the same system, the one time it actually works fine I can rw, the second system is somehow fubatr |
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| 22:31.13 | thoonai | ok it works wit 755 permissions,but this is not exactly fine |
| 22:31.19 | thoonai | I hate linux! |
| 22:31.26 | thoonai | oh yeah mostly I love it |
| 22:31.57 | thoonai | but sometimes I wish to throw hard and sharp things at linux devs |
| 22:31.59 | thoonai | :D |
| 22:32.02 | thoonai | thanks :) |
| 22:32.04 | KjetilK | yeah, we all have that relationship to it :-) |
| 22:32.14 | thoonai | develops for linux |
| 22:32.21 | thoonai | runs for cover |
| 22:33.20 | KjetilK | too; used it for 20 years, highly unlikely to change, but now and then, you run into WTFs, and then you realize, it could be your code giving people a hard time, and then you forgive it :-) |
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| 22:34.25 | thoonai | KjetilK: yeah sometimes I wish I'd use Windows and keep stupid *dreams of the easier times, when developing for Win XP* |
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| 22:34.54 | KjetilK | Technically, the NFS stuff make sense, it is just a PITA to work it out... |
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| 22:35.25 | thoonai | KjetilK: everytime someone tells me, that something makes sense I think of X and shiver |
| 22:35.28 | KjetilK | it may be easier, but I just feel handcuffed when on Win |
| 22:35.55 | thoonai | KjetilK: some like to be handcuffed *arrrh* |
| 22:36.14 | KjetilK | on Win, I feel the limit is what makes business sense for MS, on Linux, the limit is mostly myself |
| 22:36.25 | KjetilK | doesn't :-) |
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| 22:36.52 | thoonai | neither, just a bad joke |
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| 22:37.02 | KjetilK | :-) |
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| 22:38.03 | thoonai | Im off Windows 5 years ago and fell like I can actually solve my problems instead reinstalling the opsys |
| 22:39.28 | KjetilK | hasn't had a Win box in 20 years, except at workplaces where they required it to be on the box, but I didn't use it, just dual-booted it, except for some really short periods, when I had to... |
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| 22:39.49 | KjetilK | anyway, I came in here because I struggle with my routing tables. There's a lot of documentation out there, but it seems like much of it is somewhat dated, some say persist it in /etc/network/interfaces using up, some say post-up and pre-down, some use route, others say that's obsolete, use ip route. The ip documentation is pretty terse, so I'm more confused than ever... |
| 22:40.02 | KjetilK | I want to add a route from boxes in 172.22.8.0/18 connected on eth1 to boxes in 172.22.192.0/19 on eth3 |
| 22:40.22 | thoonai | has no clue of routing, sadly |
| 22:40.30 | KjetilK | ought to be easy, but I don't get it with all the conflicting docs... |
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| 22:41.38 | thoonai | KjetilK: same happens atm to me. I try to setup LDAP |
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| 22:42.22 | KjetilK | anyone able to point at something that explains this in straightforward modern terms? |
| 22:42.58 | KjetilK | has just gotten fibre in the house, and is moving all boxes into a rack in the basement :-) |
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| 22:46.06 | thoonai | KjetilK: bandwidth of the fiber? 1GB/s? |
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| 22:46.54 | thoonai | sits in the university and has 1Gb/s Internet :3 |
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| 22:47.56 | thoonai | but at home its 1/20 of the bandwidth here *sigh* |
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| 22:50.36 | KjetilK | the fibre network itself is gigabit passive optical network, so it certain goes there, but I pay for just 50 Mbits/s |
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| 22:52.40 | thoonai | KjetilK: if noone answers here, you could ask in #ubuntu too, debian and ubuntu are closely related ;) |
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| 22:52.58 | thoonai | or in ##networking |
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| 22:54.20 | KjetilK | thoonai, yeah, thanks! |
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| 22:54.41 | thoonai | KjetilK: which one? ^^ |
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| 22:55.42 | rockyroad | Hi , I just ruined my fresh install of debian. Could you help me ? |
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| 22:56.00 | thoonai | rockyroad: more details please ^^ |
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| 22:56.27 | rockyroad | i tried to install cinnamon, then the X display went unusable |
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| 22:57.20 | rockyroad | from the text console, I removed all cinnamon related and reinstalled gnome task-gnome |
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| 22:57.55 | thoonai | ok and now X is still dead? |
| 22:58.21 | sandman13 | rockyroad: from my past experience but with other distro it is normal |
| 22:58.25 | rockyroad | but still the X display is unusable ... not dead though |
| 22:58.42 | mtn | rockyroad: for the future: https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian |
| 22:59.05 | thoonai | mtn: is this real o.O |
| 22:59.28 | mtn | it is! and a good read, too |
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| 22:59.38 | rockyroad | it looks like fonts cache, pixbuf and screen size is gone |
| 22:59.49 | thoonai | mtn: oh yeah! I'll read it tommorrow in the bus :D |
| 23:00.38 | thoonai | mtn: I'm laughing and cringin on the floor, this is epic! |
| 23:00.48 | rockyroad | I had started installing my own stuff, I'd like if I was able to avoid reinstalling |
| 23:02.17 | rockyroad | I have tried to create a new user and startx from there ... similar problems. the fonts disapear after 2 or 3 clicks |
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| 23:05.53 | thoonai | rockyroad: how much time did you spend with the system? |
| 23:06.07 | thoonai | rockyroad: easiest is to reinstall the whole thing |
| 23:06.19 | jhutchins | rockyroad: So restore the pre-cinnamon backup. |
| 23:06.26 | jhutchins | !cinnamon |
| 23:06.26 | dpkg | Cinnamon is a fork of <GNOME Shell> initially developed by the Linux Mint distribution. Packaged in <testing>. http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/ |
| 23:06.36 | thoonai | !javascript |
| 23:06.36 | dpkg | JavaScript (originally Mocha, formerly LiveScript) is a simple scripting language - an implementation of ECMAScript - designed by Netscape to be embedded into HTML documents. Despite the name, it is entirely unrelated to <Java>. http://js.isite.net.au/ ##javascript on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 23:07.18 | thoonai | I seriously expected somethin like "javascript==hell" but okay |
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| 23:08.46 | rockyroad | It is a few days I'm at choosing a replacement for ubuntu, with UEFI support |
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| 23:09.59 | rockyroad | I thought someone here could help me to try a restore of xorg configuration |
| 23:10.00 | NiLon | why are all web interfaces for linux monitoring directly from 90's? :D |
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| 23:12.49 | rockyroad | my laptop is only 1 year old , I thought testing jessie would be ok. |
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| 23:13.26 | thoonai | rockyroad: do just the fonts disappear? |
| 23:13.52 | rockyroad | yes, this is the main symptom |
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| 23:15.05 | rockyroad | including at login screen |
| 23:15.40 | thoonai | rockyroad: I have no idea sorry :/ |
| 23:16.04 | thoonai | KjetilK: and does it works? |
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| 23:16.25 | thoonai | rockyroad: I have no clue of X and everytime I tried to fix stuff, it was horror |
| 23:17.19 | rockyroad | .xsessionerrors tell about pango failures |
| 23:18.14 | KjetilK | thoonai, I'm getting some help in ##networking now |
| 23:18.22 | thoonai | KjetilK: cool |
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| 23:19.58 | rockyroad | thank you thoonai for answering anyway |
| 23:20.43 | thoonai | rockyroad: Im stuck so often and atleast try to help, when waiting myself :D |
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| 23:40.48 | rockyroad | how do I boot in text mode only ? sth like "linux 3" from grub ? I forgot |
| 23:43.37 | Brigo | rockyroad, rescue mode in grub menu |
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| 23:45.51 | rockyroad | thx Brigo, but I think rescue mode is a very limited shell, busybox ? I'd like the real system with apt-get and vim |
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| 23:49.11 | Brigo | rockyroad, the problem is a really do not remembe the single user leve, i think is is init1 |
| 23:49.15 | Brigo | rockyroad, the problem is a really do not remembe the single user leve, i think is is init 1 |
| 23:49.51 | Brigo | so from the rescue system you can run init 1 to get a single user system |
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| 23:50.16 | Brigo | rockyroad, or you can simply stop the display manager. |
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| 23:50.38 | sterns | having difficulty getting the side scroll on my Synaptics touchpad working permanently on Jessie. Works fine if I do 'synclient VertEdgeScroll=1'. I'm not getting results by adding option to xorg.config.d |
| 23:50.39 | banre | hello |
| 23:51.02 | banre | is there an easy way to send sms from debian |
| 23:52.04 | sterns | banre: you could write a script using the TWILIO api for that |
| 23:52.20 | Brigo | !tell banre about testing |
| 23:53.13 | rockyroad | Brigo, sth like "# service dm stop" ? |
| 23:53.44 | Brigo | rockyroad, what desktop environment are you using? |
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| 23:54.38 | banre | gnome 3.4.2 32bit |
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| 23:58.57 | rockyroad | Brigo, I had the default gnome from install, but mint's cinnamon uninstalled the whole set . I restored it by hand |
| 23:59.31 | Brigo | rockyroad, are you using mint?? |
| 23:59.32 | rockyroad | this was just after upgrading to testing |
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