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| 00:02.28 | Vasistha | How can I find out what video card is in a computer (without opening it up?) |
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| 00:02.45 | CarlGel | Hello, I've been running 7.5 on my server for some time, and I was thinking about perhaps installing on my desktop now that I feel fairly comfortable with the command line, as well as a game I play a lot finally being ported to linux today. However, upon looking at Debian's page about Steam, I see that 7.x does not have the packages available for steam. Would it be easier to deal with building a jessie chroot, or dealing with the potential problems |
| 00:02.46 | CarlGel | with the 8.x testing build? |
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| 00:05.06 | Vasistha | CarlGel: imo testing would probably be easier, but I've never run testing myself. /msg dpkg testing |
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| 00:05.45 | Brigo | cardiel, did you have 3d acceleration? |
| 00:06.04 | Brigo | you can try this: https://github.com/GhostSquad57/Steam-Installer-for-Wheezy |
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| 00:06.52 | Brigo | i have never check it. I am using testing and i can run steam without problems. |
| 00:07.49 | CarlGel | I suppose I'll run testing, then. |
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| 00:08.15 | CarlGel | and worst comes to worst, I can always downgrade it 7.6 and try that script, thanks. |
| 00:08.35 | Brigo | CarlGel, downgrade is not easy, make some backups :) |
| 00:08.50 | CarlGel | Naturally! |
| 00:09.20 | KTL | and a dump from "dpkg -l" to remember all old package-versions |
| 00:09.29 | dgriffi | does anyone here know anything about building package for Sun Java on Wheezy? I tried following https://wiki.debian.org/Java/Sun, but I cannot find the appropriate file on Oracle's website. |
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| 00:09.37 | Brigo | dpkg --get-selections |
| 00:09.37 | dpkg | Brigo: wish i knew |
| 00:09.43 | CarlGel | yep |
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| 00:10.11 | CarlGel | also, I only need to have the first DVD, correct? |
| 00:10.24 | CarlGel | (Or ISO, as I'm planning on going via thumbdrive) |
| 00:11.12 | Vasistha | CarlGel: I usually use the net install, no need to get the whole DVD image unless you are planning to install on a bunch of computers; or planning to install somewhere where you won't have good net access |
| 00:11.47 | CarlGel | Hm, I wasn't 100% sure if I'd be able to do the net install so I didn't look into it, I'll read the documentation really fast. |
| 00:12.12 | Brigo | dgriffi, java-package |
| 00:12.35 | CarlGel | >You set up a TFTP and a DHCP (or BOOTP, or RARP) server which will serve the installation media to machines on your local network. |
| 00:12.49 | Brigo | CarlGel, the only problem use to be the wifi firmware if you need it. |
| 00:12.58 | CarlGel | Unfortunately, my only spare computer got fried by a storm last night. :v |
| 00:13.16 | CarlGel | Unless I'm completely misunderstanding and I can install from internet? |
| 00:13.32 | ciwifi | Hi I have a problem after switching my hdd order boots ok but then hangs after the login prompt? |
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| 00:13.57 | Brigo | CarlGel, no, you need the netinstall which install the base system and then you can continue from internet. |
| 00:14.15 | karlpinc | How do I get fsck to show the "spinning progress" output? I get the feeling an external program is needed. |
| 00:14.23 | dgriffi | Brigo: I'm doing that. Doesn't work. I got this: http://pastebin.com/UXpUawqH |
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| 00:16.07 | ciwifi | Do i only need to change fstab after a change of hdd order? |
| 00:17.07 | dvs | ciwifi: If you do it right, you don't have to change fstab no matter which order the drives appear in. |
| 00:17.39 | Brigo | dgriffi, check this: http://serverfault.com/questions/60132/jdk-install-no-matching-plugin |
| 00:17.41 | CarlGel | Brigo: To clarify, I grab the netinstall minimal CD, throw it on my flashdrive, and then I can continue from internet? |
| 00:18.03 | CarlGel | Please excuse me, I've never netinstalled. |
| 00:18.06 | karlpinc | CarlGel: Basically, yes. |
| 00:18.07 | dvs | !tell CarlGel about install guide |
| 00:18.12 | Brigo | CarlGel, like i said, may be you need the firmware for your wifi, if you use it. |
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| 00:18.48 | CarlGel | Yeah, I'm not running wifi. Thanks. |
| 00:18.54 | karlpinc | I swear there's some sort of handy pipe-to-command progress meter, but I can't find it. |
| 00:19.17 | Brigo | CarlGel, so i think you will not have any problem. :) |
| 00:20.04 | karlpinc | ah, dbar |
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| 00:20.43 | CarlGel | debian-jessie-DI-b1-amd64-netinst, found it :) |
| 00:20.54 | dvs | that's testing |
| 00:21.24 | CarlGel | Yes, that's what I'm looking for, due to steam. I'll deal with potential pains |
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| 00:23.32 | dgriffi | Brigo: doesn't help. It refers to some sort of .bin file which I cannot find. |
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| 00:25.26 | Brigo | dgriffi, cannot you find /usr/share/java-package/sun-j2sdk.sh in your system? |
| 00:25.53 | dgriffi | Brigo: nope |
| 00:26.27 | Coke | is there a ciinmon repo yet for stable debian |
| 00:26.37 | Coke | cinnamon |
| 00:27.51 | Coke | does steam work with the current stable debian |
| 00:29.37 | grubles | it works on testing for me |
| 00:29.53 | Coke | is anyone planning or trying to poet mac osx coca to debian or linux in general |
| 00:30.28 | grubles | doubt it |
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| 00:30.45 | Coke | testing doesnt support from radeon 7950hd the packages are too new |
| 00:30.54 | Coke | for my amd driver |
| 00:30.55 | Brigo | dgriffi, i think you have to download the bin package. |
| 00:31.18 | Brigo | Coke, there is not cinnamon for stable yet, sorry. |
| 00:31.32 | Coke | thats ok because my radeon runs like a pile of shit in linux time to get a nvida 980 |
| 00:31.54 | Coke | what about for testing Brigo |
| 00:32.00 | dgriffi | Brigo: well, then what package is the correct one? |
| 00:32.04 | Coke | or unstable |
| 00:32.36 | Coke | when is testing becoming stable |
| 00:32.41 | Coke | is it soon |
| 00:32.41 | Brigo | Coke, there is not steam for unstable, but there is a untesting script here that you can try:https://github.com/GhostSquad57/Steam-Installer-for-Wheezy |
| 00:33.16 | Brigo | Coke, next year, probably, first month or so. |
| 00:33.49 | Coke | wheezy is stable and jessie is testing hey i fogot |
| 00:34.13 | Brigo | dgriffi, someone with 'bin' in the name |
| 00:34.42 | dgriffi | Brigo: there appears to be no Java8 package with .bin in the name |
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| 00:35.10 | Brigo | dgriffi, i was watching the scripts and they search for a file with a bin in the name. |
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| 00:35.54 | dgriffi | Brigo: I can see that. The thing I'm still missing is where to get the .bin file. |
| 00:36.07 | cypherman | hi, how do i compile a package adding the deb-src sid line? |
| 00:36.40 | dvs | !tell cypherman about ssd |
| 00:37.02 | dvs | oops |
| 00:37.39 | dvs | !tell cypherman about ssb |
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| 00:38.42 | Milos | Where can I go to find out what the differences are in an update like this? |
| 00:38.42 | Milos | Unpacking python2.7 (2.7.8-7) over (2.7.8-6) ... |
| 00:38.42 | Milos | Preparing to unpack .../libpython2.7_2.7.8-7_amd64.deb ... |
| 00:38.56 | Milos | Upstream, it's the same version, so what are the changes? |
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| 00:39.51 | Brigo | Milos, in debian package you can find it in /var/doc/python2.7/changelog.Debian. |
| 00:39.59 | Milos | Ah lovely, thanks. |
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| 00:40.25 | Brigo | dgriffi, are you using wheezy? |
| 00:40.47 | dgriffi | Brigo: yes |
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| 00:41.02 | cypherman | i need to install these packages in debian for operating SBIG astronomical CCD cameras: http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/libsbigudrv2 and http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/libsbigudrv2-dev |
| 00:41.19 | cypherman | they exist for ubuntu, maybe they can be installed in debian or transformed or backported |
| 00:41.21 | cypherman | somehow |
| 00:41.29 | cypherman | how can i do this? |
| 00:41.29 | dgriffi | Brigo: okay, I found /usr/share/java-package/sun-j2sdk.sh. not sure why I missed it |
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| 00:42.26 | Brigo | dgriffi, i think wheezy java-pacakage package is too old. You may need to install the backport's one. |
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| 00:45.09 | cypherman | anyone? |
| 00:45.33 | Coke | hi cypherman |
| 00:45.56 | cypherman | hi Coke |
| 00:45.57 | Coke | whats up |
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| 00:46.20 | cypherman | need to compile a package that exists for ubuntu but not for debian |
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| 00:46.37 | cypherman | i know they are somehow similar platforms |
| 00:46.40 | cypherman | right? |
| 00:46.43 | Coke | you got the sorce? |
| 00:46.46 | cypherman | yes |
| 00:46.49 | cypherman | from here |
| 00:46.56 | cypherman | http://packages.ubuntu.com/precise/libsbigudrv2-dev |
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| 00:47.53 | Coke | probably just compile it for debian |
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| 00:48.30 | Coke | wouldnt debian take care of all that configuring making crap |
| 00:48.38 | Coke | for debian |
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| 00:48.59 | Coke | i dont know for sure try google |
| 00:49.09 | Coke | hi melvin |
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| 00:52.33 | brupha | not sure what happened to my gnome keyring. Nothing ever prompts to unlock it nor does anything save to it. |
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| 00:54.55 | ArchDuke | Is steam only available in the jessie repos? Can't seem to find it on stable non-free |
| 00:55.43 | Brigo | ArchDuke, it is only in testing, yes. |
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| 00:56.39 | Brigo | Everybody is asking for steam today, Is there any news i do not know? |
| 00:57.27 | ArchDuke | Can I get it through jessie backports? Or would I need to add jessie and modify its pin priority in apt preferences and just install from jessie? |
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| 00:58.06 | Brigo | ArchDuke, afaik, there is no backports and it will not be in the future. |
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| 00:59.18 | Brigo | ArchDuke, i pasted a link some lines above: https://github.com/GhostSquad57/Steam-Installer-for-Wheezy |
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| 01:01.58 | dgriffi | Brigo: that did the trick. |
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| 01:03.20 | Brigo | dgriffi, good for you :) |
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| 01:06.30 | m00n | Hello |
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| 01:07.34 | m00n | My /dev/mapper/*-root device is full, though none of the other drives have more than 10% usage. What tends to fill that up, and how might i fix it? Adding more space is an option, but a hassle id like to avoid if possible. |
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| 01:08.49 | Brigo | m00n, this depends on what you have on -root. |
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| 01:10.45 | m00n | i have separate LVM partitions for boot, home, tmp, usr, and var |
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| 01:11.11 | SpacedOut | acpid is getting two different power button presses, acpi_listen reports, "button/power PBTN 00000080 00000000" and "button/power LNXPWRBN:00 00000080 0000001c" since I have power button set to hibernate, it hibernates, two times in a row, very annoying, any ideas? |
| 01:11.35 | Brigo | m00n, what is the size of root? |
| 01:11.38 | m00n | the /dev/mapper/*-root partition is 322M with 286M |
| 01:11.43 | m00n | 286M used* |
| 01:12.06 | Brigo | m00n, may be the kernels. |
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| 01:12.57 | m00n | results of df -h pastebin.com/Ash1Gnef |
| 01:13.09 | Brigo | 163M/lib/modules/3.14-2-amd64/ |
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| 01:14.06 | Brigo | for example modules for kernel 3.14-2-amd64 --> 163M in root partition. |
| 01:14.34 | m00n | can i safely remove old kernels? I am attempting a dist-upgrade, there are the last few lines of it: pastebin.com/xDRMtwkL |
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| 01:15.03 | dondelelcaro | m00n: yes. |
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| 01:15.16 | Brigo | m00n, is very dangerous, you need them during the upgrade |
| 01:15.20 | dondelelcaro | m00n: you just want to keep the kernel that you're currently running |
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| 01:15.29 | m00n | alright, thank you |
| 01:17.04 | m00n | so my current kernel (from uname -a) is 3.2.0 |
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| 01:17.38 | m00n | can i rm -rf the 3.14-2-amd64 folder? |
| 01:18.24 | m00n | wait a minute... |
| 01:18.33 | m00n | why is it trying to downgrade my kernel? |
| 01:18.49 | m00n | oh wait, 3.2 vs 3.14 |
| 01:19.03 | m00n | nevermind, i thought it said 3.20, misread it |
| 01:19.08 | centrx | 14 > 2 |
| 01:19.18 | m00n | ok, so that IS whats filling up the space, but i need both folders |
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| 02:00.21 | bosher | hello |
| 02:00.31 | bosher | i need help |
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| 02:01.50 | bosher | I can not run 0 ad in fedora help |
| 02:03.12 | centrx | !fedora |
| 02:03.12 | dpkg | Fedora is the Red Hat-derived distribution of Linux, although it is not supported by Red Hat officially, you can get help from the community: #fedora on irc.freenode.net. http://fedoraproject.org/ |
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| 02:16.52 | ThePawnBreak | is anybody here? |
| 02:16.56 | bosher | yes |
| 02:17.00 | dvs | nope |
| 02:17.04 | ThePawnBreak | I am trying to change my mac address |
| 02:17.13 | bosher | groove |
| 02:17.18 | centrx | ifconfig |
| 02:17.41 | ThePawnBreak | I set it from \etc\network\interfaces and ifconfig, but it resets itself to the original in about one minute |
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| 02:35.55 | shay_shay | hello |
| 02:36.11 | shay_shay | in eix output sometimes i see ^m or ^ms next to versions of packages |
| 02:36.16 | shay_shay | whats the deal with that? |
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| 02:38.56 | centrx | shay_shay, I'm not sure what you mean, but ^M with a capital M indicates the MS-DOS/Windows carriage return (\r) |
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| 02:39.36 | shay_shay | centrx: sorry wrong channel. it was a gentoo question |
| 02:39.53 | centrx | touche salesman |
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| 02:40.32 | shay_shay | i didnt notice until you replied :D |
| 02:40.52 | shay_shay | then i was like "wait where am i" |
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| 03:14.03 | johnfg | hi guys |
| 03:14.27 | johnfg | Not sure what's been going on with my wheezy laptop. |
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| 03:14.44 | johnfg | The screen just goes black, and I can't do anything. |
| 03:15.07 | johnfg | I can't change to another tty, and the only thing I've been able to do is reboot. |
| 03:15.08 | Dan39 | johnfg: is your monitor on? |
| 03:15.22 | johnfg | Can't find anything written in the logs. |
| 03:15.23 | supaplex | johnfg: what's the make and model? |
| 03:15.35 | supaplex | is this a backlight issue? |
| 03:15.38 | johnfg | asus z9000, an older model. |
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| 03:15.51 | johnfg | supaplex: Don't know. |
| 03:15.55 | somiaj | johnfg: does it go black while you are using it, or after a certain amount of time of inactivity? |
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| 03:16.12 | johnfg | somiaj: Kind of all of a sudden. |
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| 03:16.36 | somiaj | okay was just wondering if it could be a dpms issue, but if it just goes black randomally while you are using it, sounds hardware related. |
| 03:16.56 | johnfg | It will blank okay, and come back. But when it does this, not been able to get it back. |
| 03:17.10 | johnfg | somiaj: That's kinda what I was afraid of :-( |
| 03:17.23 | johnfg | Wish I could get something out of a log. |
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| 03:18.20 | somiaj | if it is hardware it may not put anything in a log as the kernel and os may not know that it has happened. |
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| 03:54.15 | raspberrypifan | i have a program freeswitch which is set by an init script to start up with -nonat. I have change all the scripts i could find but it still starts with nonat, how cna i stop it |
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| 03:57.23 | sebastian | seems like it does |
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| 04:22.21 | urk | Does anyone know if the chart program opens up, in the libreoffice package, that is in the repos? I am running backports, and the chart program doesn't appear at all in the spread sheet, and data disappears after closing in the text document. |
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| 05:00.04 | LePalestineFace | http://puu.sh/bbSP0.jpg << HELP!!!!! |
| 05:00.28 | LePalestineFace | http://puu.sh/bbSP0.jpg << HELP!!!!! |
| 05:01.11 | narbeh | Spam |
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| 05:18.58 | phy1729 | only staff can k-line but I'm suprised idoru didn't kill |
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| 06:34.52 | Scuttle | Hum... is there any information somehwere about how big a mirror of, say, amd64 would be? |
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| 06:35.50 | Scuttle | I'm using ftpsync to mirror, and it's working great, just curious how much it'll end up using on the fileserver :) |
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| 06:47.25 | themill | Scuttle: as a general rule, you're better off with a caching proxy rather than a full mirror. That way you only have to download (and keep refreshing) the packages you actually use. |
| 06:47.27 | themill | Scuttle: https://www.debian.org/mirror/size |
| 06:47.28 | omarek | Hello, I can't get fcron to work. My debug fcrontab line is 41 * * * * echo 'pies pies pies' >> /var/log/syslog , but I see no change in the last lines of syslog. |
| 06:48.01 | omarek | That was a few minutes ago. |
| 06:48.50 | bhuddah | omarek: i think it's not the best choice to directly write to the syslog. |
| 06:49.05 | bhuddah | omarek: maybe "man logger" will help you. |
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| 06:51.07 | Scuttle | hm, "only" 97 gigs, that's not too bad, and both storage and bandwidth is plentyful |
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| 06:51.34 | Scuttle | and we got a bunch of clients that are not internet-connected, so a mirror would be easier to set up I guess |
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| 06:52.32 | bhuddah | how is that any different, Scuttle? |
| 06:53.06 | bhuddah | Scuttle: and remember that you will have much more recurring traffic because you need to get ALL the updates then. |
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| 06:58.58 | Scuttle | well, this way I can just download the files to the fileserver, which is already accessible via http from the local LAN |
| 06:59.07 | CieNTi | good morning ! |
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| 06:59.23 | Scuttle | minimal extra setup, I'll just have to cron the ftpsync-script |
| 07:00.16 | CieNTi | hey .. I have running two X, one on :0 and one on :1. By default i was using :0 and when "startx" with the new user, it appeared on screen but ... how can I switch from :0 to :1 and viceversa to output to my screen ? |
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| 07:00.41 | CieNTi | it is possible? |
| 07:00.47 | CieNTi | i searched but .. unrelated results |
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| 07:19.47 | michaelis | Hi. Is Debian adopting XFCE from version 8? |
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| 07:23.11 | omarek | Okay, fcrontab doesn't run rsync for some reason. I can't find any log, no messages in syslog, no messages in the logfile I specified. Can someone help ? https://dpaste.de/d32u/raw |
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| 07:23.45 | omarek | fcrontab itself does work, I tested it with echo. |
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| 07:24.58 | omarek | michaelis: You mean by default ? There are images which have xfce installed. |
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| 07:25.55 | michaelis | omarek: Yes, by default. Which will be the default GUI then? |
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| 07:28.53 | omarek | michaelis: Articles from 2013 say Debian 8 is supposed to default to Xfce. |
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| 07:29.35 | CieNTi | I have a doubt. I have a phisical display connected to a machine with linux. There is configured as not to auto-run X so I can launch "startx" from any user only when I want. Now I have launched X with user1 (:0) and with user2 (:1). Display is showing user2 desktop and the question is: How can I switch, via command line, :0 or :1 output to physical display? |
| 07:30.02 | michaelis | omarek: That's not nice to hear. But that's just my opinion. |
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| 07:30.29 | jelly-home | michaelis: too early to say but probably gnome. The change omarek is refering to has been reverted |
| 07:31.21 | jelly-home | michaelis: whatever the default is, Gnome won't disappear from Debian and will be at least an option |
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| 07:31.50 | michaelis | jelly-home: Ok. I understand. That's nice to hear. Then I don't have to worry then. |
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| 07:33.12 | buu | Where is that bloody dictionary thats translating "question" to "doubt"? |
| 07:33.15 | buu | I want to burn it |
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| 07:37.54 | xand | lol |
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| 08:00.54 | rryoumaa | i question that dictionary too |
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| 08:59.55 | Xeago | 'm new to debian packaging, and having a rough time trying to package https://github.com/github/backup-utils, it supplies a Makefile with the target dist, which will yield a tar.gz. This essentially just runs git-archive. I don't care about the binary package at all. Any advice? |
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| 09:02.45 | omarek | I'm trying to set up SSH login based on public key, for automatic backups. As chomik@server1.com I created a new key, then I copied the .pub key to monuszko@server2:.ssh/ via scp. Then I added it to authorized_keys via cat >>. But I'm still asked for password. Why ? |
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| 09:03.46 | Phyliares | omarek: you can use the wrapper command ssh-copy-id to simplifying this process |
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| 09:04.19 | omarek | Phyliares: I know, but what causes the problem ? Do account names have to be the same ? |
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| 09:05.36 | Phyliares | the public key of the user you want to connect must be present in the ~/.ssh/authorized_keys file of the remote user |
| 09:06.16 | Phyliares | log could help |
| 09:06.43 | tugrik | omarek: excuse the obvious question, but you did set up a *passphraseless* key for this didn't you? |
| 09:07.16 | tugrik | also use the "-v" option for the ssh connection, see if that reveals anything untoward |
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| 09:11.00 | Twinkletoes | If I were to extract the first directory of a long path using sed or awk, it's quite simple, but is there anything for or against using either? |
| 09:12.05 | Twinkletoes | echo "$myPath" | cut -d'/' -f2 echo "$myPath" | awk -F'/' '{print $2}' both work fine,m mbut just wondered if there was a recommendation |
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| 09:15.15 | tugrik | I don't think so, whichever you're happiest with |
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| 09:15.27 | tugrik | ( as a sidenote, I'm disappointed that dirname doesn't have this feature ) |
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| 09:15.52 | Twinkletoes | tugrik: YEah, I tried with dirname/basename first |
| 09:16.10 | omarek | tugrik: no passphrases. Correct me if I'm wrong but I think I did the opposite of what I should. I want to ssh from server1 to server2. I generated a key on server1 and copied the public key to server2. I /think/ I should generate on server2 and copy to s1 ? |
| 09:16.45 | tugrik | omarek: I think you're right the first time, generate it on server1, copy it to server2 |
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| 09:17.23 | tugrik | from experience omarek I'd suggest you check the following ( these are all mistakes I've made, so I'm not presuming ineptness on your part ) |
| 09:17.36 | tugrik | check you've spelled authorized_keys correctly as a file name |
| 09:17.52 | tugrik | check the permissions and ownership of the appropriate files in ~/.ssh on server2 |
| 09:18.18 | tugrik | also I *think* you need a newline/carriage return at the end of the entry in authorized_keys on server2, that might make a difference |
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| 09:18.45 | Phyliares | omarek: check your logs... |
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| 09:19.50 | tugrik | also check that you've added the key to authorized_keys correctly on server2... if you cut and paste into a terminal, sometimes the line wrapping can match your terminal width... so you think you've pasted abcdefgh and you've pasted ab\ncd\nef\ngh... if that makes sense |
| 09:19.58 | tugrik | and yeah, check your logs too :) |
| 09:20.17 | Twinkletoes | tugrik: Background info to that cut/awk command - I change the name of a directory on my system, so my script which fnds a file jsut returned an empty string (instead of failing) which made it start rsyncing / to / on the remote system, so I basically buggered it. I was looking for a way to test the first part of the path, and also I might check for a test file in the remote rsync location... |
| 09:20.19 | Twinkletoes | ...which I can check exists before I use rsync |
| 09:20.32 | omarek | I've checked ssh -v an I see no message about rsync-key.pub being tried. https://dpaste.de/FBRj |
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| 09:21.14 | tugrik | ah yes Twinkletoes - I use the "does file exist" method for my rsyncs... especially as I tend to rsync to other systems where a drive might have failed to mount or other weirdness |
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| 09:21.29 | Twinkletoes | tug :) |
| 09:21.55 | Twinkletoes | omarek: Try this... grep '#AuthorizedKeysFile' /etc/ssh/sshd_config |
| 09:22.03 | Twinkletoes | omarek: TO verify you're using the correct file |
| 09:22.54 | Twinkletoes | omarek: then make sure that both the .ssh directory and the authorized_keys file both DON'T have any world permissions. If the permissions are wrong, it won't work |
| 09:24.26 | Twinkletoes | omarek: Then check what file ssh thinks it's using for your private key: grep -i identityFile /etc/ssh/ssh_config |
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| 09:24.43 | r3n1c0n | hi |
| 09:25.07 | r3n1c0n | can some one please help me urgent. I got to restore a deleted folder on my machine. Running Debian weezy. |
| 09:25.18 | r3n1c0n | iam still on and in the dir i deleted the folder |
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| 09:25.53 | garulf | hi guys, where is oprofile package in debian sid? |
| 09:25.54 | r3n1c0n | i delted documents folder XD |
| 09:26.07 | r3n1c0n | got lots of school work there takes me 10 mounths to remake |
| 09:26.20 | Twinkletoes | r3n1c0n: Stop blabbering and let me reply... |
| 09:26.36 | Twinkletoes | r3n1c0n: IS this YOUR system or is it shared? |
| 09:26.44 | r3n1c0n | its mine |
| 09:27.06 | Twinkletoes | r3n1c0n: What you SHOULD do, is immediately shut down the system and put the drive into another system so you can look at it without making any changes |
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| 09:27.12 | Twinkletoes | r3n1c0n: Is that possible? |
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| 09:27.33 | petn-randall | r3n1c0n: Recover from backups? |
| 09:27.39 | r3n1c0n | no its not |
| 09:28.01 | Twinkletoes | r3n1c0n: YOu must understand that any writing to the disk, there's a possibility that it may overwrite your deleted data - ok? |
| 09:28.01 | r3n1c0n | dont have any backups. |
| 09:28.12 | Twinkletoes | r3n1c0n: http://extundelete.sourceforge.net/ might be helpful |
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| 09:28.28 | Twinkletoes | r3n1c0n: And read here, too: http://www.mynitor.com/2010/01/19/10-tools-to-recover-deleted-files-in-linux/ |
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| 09:29.02 | Ast001 | Hello I can't force gnome 3 to show seconds on clock. I used dconf-editor program but nothing changes after i enabled show seconds in it. |
| 09:29.10 | petn-randall | r3n1c0n: Yank out the power cable, and try to recover the files from a live system, onto a second drive. It will probably take some time, though. |
| 09:29.47 | petn-randall | r3n1c0n: How did you delete the files? If you did it through your desktop environment, you might want to check the "recycle bin". |
| 09:30.14 | r3n1c0n | no i was stupit enough to use Shift delete |
| 09:30.34 | r3n1c0n | selected wrong folder |
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| 09:30.49 | Twinkletoes | r3n1c0n: :( |
| 09:31.19 | petn-randall | r3n1c0n: Then proceed as I mentioned it, it's the only way, and it will only have mediocre results, but you might recover some files. |
| 09:31.24 | Ast001 | I set org->gnome->desktop->interface->clock show seconds |
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| 09:31.55 | G66k | hello Everyone |
| 09:32.18 | G66k | is there any tools to clean system for trash and unnessecary files |
| 09:32.45 | petn-randall | r3n1c0n: It's important to turn off the machine hard since a shutdown might trigger some writes that will overwrite some of the data you just deleted. |
| 09:33.14 | petn-randall | G66k: What is the problem you're trying to solve? |
| 09:33.51 | G66k | petn-randall, i want to clean my system for trash and useless files logs |
| 09:33.54 | G66k | to free more space |
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| 09:36.02 | r3n1c0n | strugling with extundelete |
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| 09:37.41 | afidegnum | how do I find all available users having access to a folder/directory? i am having a permission issue, I write the uploaded file to the directory |
| 09:38.10 | r3n1c0n | how can i see mounted partitions? |
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| 09:39.24 | blackjack | gparted |
| 09:40.24 | omarek | /usr/bin/ssh-copy-id: ERROR: No identities found |
| 09:41.32 | omarek | On chomik@server1.pl I issued ssh-copy-id anotheruser@server2.pl . I got this error. Must both usernames be identical ? |
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| 09:42.05 | Phyliares | no |
| 09:42.31 | Phyliares | foo can connect as root on remote side, doesn't matter |
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| 09:43.00 | Phyliares | try -i option |
| 09:43.16 | Phyliares | /usr/bin/ssh-copy-id -i /path/to/key.pub |
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| 09:43.43 | Phyliares | if it cannot find it, maybe it doesn't have default filename/path |
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| 09:44.30 | Phyliares | r3n1c0n: use mount command |
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| 09:44.57 | r3n1c0n | i cant umont running system XD |
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| 09:45.16 | Phyliares | ofc |
| 09:45.43 | aswen | hi there, does anyone know abount a command that shows the capabilities of a vga card? (documentation is not complete and i want to buy new monitor but dunno max resolution of vga card) |
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| 09:46.03 | aswen | abount -> about |
| 09:46.22 | r3n1c0n | F**** nvm thx for the help guys |
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| 09:49.05 | petn-randall | r3n1c0n: You shouldn't work from the affected filesystem, anyway. |
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| 09:49.27 | petn-randall | r3n1c0n: I recommend setting up a backup strategy so it doesn't happen again in the future. |
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| 09:50.03 | omarek | Phyliares: this is with -i . Why does it not try the rsync-key.pub ? https://dpaste.de/UH2Y/raw |
| 09:51.57 | Phyliares | omarek: ssh-add .ssh/rsync-key OR rename it id_rsa |
| 09:53.35 | Phyliares | omarek: OR ssh -i .ssh/rsync-key user@host |
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| 09:54.44 | Phyliares | if you don't specify it's name it cannot find it if it is not default, classic |
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| 09:56.08 | omarek | Phyliares: Are you sure I'm supposed to copy my private key ? That's what rsync-key is. |
| 09:56.20 | Phyliares | that's not what i said |
| 09:56.34 | trytry | hi guys, just wondering whether anyone can assist, i attempted a package upgrade for php5 which resulted in a big mess with apt-get |
| 09:56.38 | omarek | The key *is* in the authorized_hosts file, I can log in manually via ssh and see it there. |
| 09:57.37 | trytry | etting up libssl1.0.0:amd64 (1.0.1e-2+deb7u12) ... Checking for services that may need to be restarted...done. Checking for services that may need to be restarted...done. Checking init scripts... Use of uninitialized value $template in exists at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/Template.pm line 81, <GEN1> line 2. Use of uninitialized value $item in exists at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/DbDriver/Cache.pm line 39, <GEN1> line 2. Use of uninitial |
| 09:59.22 | Dewi | omarek: that's not a copy. ssh only uses keys in the default locations, specified with -i, or via any IdentityFile settings, or in an agent |
| 09:59.28 | petn-randall | trytry: We might be able to help, please provide the info the dpkg bot requests to http://paste.debian.net. |
| 09:59.34 | petn-randall | !tell trytry -about bat |
| 09:59.43 | Phyliares | omarek: please, install debian-reference package, then open file:///usr/share/doc/debian-reference-common/docs/ch06.fr.html#_the_remote_access_server_and_utility_ssh with a web browser |
| 10:00.20 | Phyliares | less fr, since you are not french ;) |
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| 10:01.17 | Dewi | or just read it on the web... |
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| 10:01.30 | petn-randall | aswen: Usually looking up the hardware spec sheet is easier for that. Just google "<name of card> spec" |
| 10:01.31 | Phyliares | preserve bandwidth |
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| 10:01.56 | Dewi | omarek: so to do anything meaningful with keys you need your private key available to ssh in one of those ways |
| 10:02.02 | trytry | thanks petn-randall ...hang on a sec i think i am onto something :) |
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| 10:02.35 | Dewi | omarek: if your public key is already in authorized_keys on the target, you don't need ssh-copy-id, but you do need ssh to be loading your private key |
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| 10:04.32 | petn-randall | trytry: I'm thinking you might have mixed releases or added repos that clash with your installation. |
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| 10:07.05 | trytry | i ended up purging that particular troublesome package |
| 10:07.12 | trytry | now i seem to have to install everything again |
| 10:07.12 | trytry | lol |
| 10:07.17 | aswen | petn-randall: thanx. I did some googling off course |
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| 10:10.37 | Amnesia | question, since I'm using xorg-server 1.16 I'm unable to go to tty1 when a X session is running, what's the cause for this? |
| 10:11.41 | Phyliares | Amnesia: does X runs on this tty instead of classic tty7? |
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| 10:12.08 | Amnesia | Phyliares: it appears so yes |
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| 10:16.06 | trytry | ah cool, think i fixed the issue =] purging that offending package seemed to have got rid of the issue, unfortunately i literally had to reinstall all core packages from scratch |
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| 10:20.24 | Phyliares | Amnesia: that depends on your display manager i suppose |
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| 10:20.51 | Phyliares | need to find arguments passed to X when started |
| 10:21.03 | Amnesia | it's just xinit that kicked it off |
| 10:21.40 | Amnesia | X :0 -nolisten tcp vt1 -auth /tmp/serverauth |
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| 10:21.58 | Phyliares | oh, then replace vt1 but the one you want |
| 10:22.08 | Phyliares | s/but/by/ |
| 10:22.27 | Amnesia | that'd work, but it's nasty |
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| 10:23.12 | Amnesia | from what I remember loading fbcon actually enabled kms or w/e |
| 10:23.36 | Amnesia | problem is that's not available in the default kernel, and I cba to compile my own kerne: |
| 10:23.39 | Amnesia | kernel* |
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| 10:26.46 | omarek | It's working !!N@#!@ |
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| 10:31.45 | r3n1c0n | ye i will. Use a sd on it now and backup there XD |
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| 10:34.56 | r3n1c0n | its a hard lesson.. but the best i guess |
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| 10:40.17 | omarek | Phyliares: Dewi: thank you. |
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| 11:15.26 | pecisk | hi people, I need to define DNS servers for interface but otherwise letting rest of it to get trough dhcp. I tried to modify /etc/dhcp/dhcpclient.conf but still DNS from dhcp is added to already manually appended DNS |
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| 11:23.22 | babilen | pecisk: How do you manage your interfaces? |
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| 11:28.39 | pecisk | babilen, using /etc/network/interfaces, iface eth0 inet dhcp. First I tried to modify dhcpclient.conf to not to request dns servers, and use prepend domain-name-servers |
| 11:29.07 | pecisk | babilen, defined prepend dns servers appears in /etc/resolv.conf, but also dhcp issued dns servers appear |
| 11:29.11 | babilen | https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#The_resolvconf_program |
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| 11:55.34 | omarek | I can't get fcron to properly do backups via rsync. The command works when used directly, I tested it. The fcrontab works, it runs other commands. Where can I see the logfile ? |
| 11:55.51 | omarek | Basically how can I debug something that refuses to run in fcron ? |
| 11:57.27 | jelly | omarek: which debian release did you find fcron in? |
| 11:57.30 | jelly | ,v fcron |
| 11:57.31 | judd | Package: fcron on i386 -- squeeze: 3.0.1-1.3 |
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| 11:59.29 | omarek | I think I see it - I'm defining some $VARIABLES in the crontab, and it takes them literallyt (but they're between "") |
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| 12:04.56 | Aprendiz1234 | hi all |
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| 12:06.04 | Aprendiz1234 | I have a question. I have just solve a problem on the boot because I have no space in the HD. ¿does't debian reserve a space for root in order than de system doesn 't crash? |
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| 12:11.40 | jelly | Aprendiz1234: that doesn't help if root fills up the disk |
| 12:11.51 | omarek | Oh, and the system time was Wrong. |
| 12:12.29 | Aprendiz1234 | jelly: aps, I though that size for root can't be fill up, I thought is for emergency in order don't crash the system |
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| 12:36.18 | boudiccas | how can i search and replace something in a master document, which has 9 other documents linked in to it? Its a latex master doc and sub-docs |
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| 12:37.44 | boudiccas | asked in #emacs |
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| 12:53.20 | debjessie | hi everybody |
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| 12:53.54 | debjessie | i need a bit help with ati card with radeon driver in jessie |
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| 12:55.00 | bezaban | debjessie: try #debian-next (irc.oftc.net) for support on testing/unstable :) |
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| 13:01.30 | Phyliares | pecisk: dhclient process was still running, you have to use dhclient again or ifdown && ifup your interface after modifying dhclient.conf |
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| 13:12.58 | synmuffin | hey all, i'm having an issue after installing debian on ibm p5 system, the install goes fine but then when i try and boot this, http://pixldrop.com/view/Hs9isSLA.png |
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| 13:25.00 | karlpinc | synmuffin: Looks like a filesystem problem.... |
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| 13:26.32 | karlpinc | synmuffin: First thing I'd do is look at the install guide for the arch and see what it says. |
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| 13:31.03 | karlpinc | synmuffin: Ah. Here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-server-73/no-filesystem-could-mount-root-and-then-a-kernel-panic-debian-7-5-0-powerpc-4175512076/ |
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| 13:32.11 | karlpinc | synmuffin: It seems it's a bug (ish). The solution is to reinstall, except that you need to tell it to install only those drivers for the detected hardware. See also: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugr...cgi?bug=719479 |
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| 13:32.57 | karlpinc | synmuffin: Otherwise the initial ram disk is too big to load. |
| 13:34.10 | synmuffin | ahhhhh |
| 13:34.10 | synmuffin | ty |
| 13:34.13 | synmuffin | i'll go try it |
| 13:34.52 | Man-cinnamon | hey there. I will maybe be asked in a few weeks to install and control like 20 computers under linux. My question is the following : what are the best tools to install 20 debians fast ? What are the tools to keep them all updated ? ; if I had no solution I think I would do one clean install, and hardcopy it on the others computers (dd) just changing their name on the network, and controlling them with an ssh script... |
| 13:34.52 | Man-cinnamon | But that's handmade dirty. Is there tools, what should I go read ? Thanks for any clue ! |
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| 13:37.11 | thoonai | Max-P: hey |
| 13:37.26 | thoonai | Max-P: did you found out what was wrong? |
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| 13:40.30 | Max-P | thoonai, No. I've done a full RAID scrubbing, no errors, so at least I'm sure it's my fault and not a disk issue |
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| 13:41.10 | thoonai | Max-P: sorry to hear that |
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| 13:41.15 | fev3r11 | Hi All |
| 13:41.20 | Max-P | thoonai, I'll put the blame on ext4-over-ext4. I'm currently rebuilding a completely new VM on a seperate server |
| 13:41.23 | fev3r11 | how is going |
| 13:41.25 | xcbe | whatsup |
| 13:41.28 | xcbe | good day today |
| 13:41.31 | xcbe | submitted my thesis |
| 13:41.37 | xcbe | going to get properly wasted^_^ |
| 13:41.38 | fev3r11 | good luck |
| 13:41.41 | xcbe | thanks |
| 13:41.46 | thoonai | fev3r11: suns shining |
| 13:41.46 | fev3r11 | ;) |
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| 13:41.59 | xcbe | where are you at thoonai that the sun is shining? |
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| 13:42.42 | thoonai | xcbe: 50.105958, 8.654506 |
| 13:43.01 | waqstar | hello all. I have a KVM debian VM with an internal IP of 192.xx.x.x. The host has a public IP of 82.x.x.x.x. I have some free IP addresses which I want the VM to use. How can I add a rule to forward all traffic from the VM through a different pubnlic ip than the host? |
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| 13:43.22 | thoonai | and I'm sitting indoor and starting to conf ldap :) |
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| 13:44.11 | xcbe | thoonai, nice place. |
| 13:44.23 | xcbe | thoonai, I've got a german citizenship - never been there however. |
| 13:44.36 | thoonai | xcbe: not exactly there, more like 50km radius :P |
| 13:44.52 | Max-P | waqstar, http://linux-ip.net/html/nat-stateless.html |
| 13:44.56 | xcbe | Frankfurtish |
| 13:45.43 | Max-P | waqstar, It can also be done in iptables using SNAT and DNAT, but I think this solution is a bit simpler although I didn't try it myself |
| 13:45.50 | thoonai | xcbe: how do you have a german citizenship and never been there? Frankfurt or Germany? |
| 13:46.09 | waqstar | thanks Max-P |
| 13:46.31 | xcbe | thoonai, Never been to either. |
| 13:46.48 | thoonai | xcbe: ok ... interesting |
| 13:46.50 | xcbe | thoonai, My grandparents came from Germany. |
| 13:47.13 | xcbe | so my mom was entitled as was I. |
| 13:47.18 | Man-cinnamon | is there a command ton ask X to suspend power on the screen ? |
| 13:47.27 | xcbe | thoonai, is that bizzare? |
| 13:48.09 | thoonai | xcbe: no, not really, if you were like a russian gangzta it would be more bizarre :) |
| 13:48.16 | Max-P | Man-cinnamon, "xset dpms force off" |
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| 13:48.40 | xcbe | thoonai, I know lots of people who have german citizenships though they've never laid foot in germany. |
| 13:49.23 | xcbe | never been to russia either thoonai |
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| 13:50.54 | thoonai | xcbe: I'm wondering whos administrating all these people in foreign countries having german citizenship (Meldebehoerde) |
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| 13:51.24 | xcbe | thoonai, Its not that easy. |
| 13:51.41 | xcbe | you have to get your ancestors documents, birth certificates stuff like that |
| 13:51.44 | xcbe | get it notarized |
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| 13:52.08 | xcbe | its not cheap either. |
| 13:52.18 | xcbe | lots of bureaucracy involved. |
| 13:52.42 | thoonai | thought so |
| 13:53.09 | xcbe | some people dont have those documents available |
| 13:53.18 | xcbe | so they have to pay someone to dig that kind of stuff from archives |
| 13:53.25 | thoonai | in gemany the only easy thing is to lay in the park and enjoy the sun, the rest reeks of bureacracy |
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| 13:53.52 | xcbe | from my limited experience with them, they are pretty efficient. |
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| 13:54.03 | xcbe | I was impressed by their level of efficiency compared to the bureaucracy I know |
| 13:54.49 | xcbe | i love that lots of the stuff is online, and you can set appointments to governmental offices |
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| 13:55.05 | RayzrShrp | I fricking love Debian! |
| 13:55.25 | thoonai | xcbe: fun fact: everyone in germany is complaining about the lazyness of the administration |
| 13:55.26 | xcbe | they're just thorough though |
| 13:55.37 | dark-jedi | RayzrShrp: We're fricking happy for you! |
| 13:55.37 | xcbe | and they have very strict terms. |
| 13:55.44 | RayzrShrp | lol dark-jedi |
| 13:55.47 | bascht | thoonai: Depends on the type of park, though. :) |
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| 13:56.06 | xcbe | they even have bizzare regulations over the type of picture that you have to take for your passport, and how your head should be tilted etc etc |
| 13:56.08 | xcbe | its weird |
| 13:56.08 | bascht | thoonai: It might be VERBOTEN. |
| 13:56.22 | xcbe | how your hair should appear |
| 13:56.38 | waqstar | Max-P: whats the difference between stateless nat and stateful? |
| 13:56.51 | thoonai | RayzrShrp: I frickin hat debian? debian is like a woman, full of wonders and miracles, smelling of oranges and making you do incredibly stupid stuff |
| 13:57.08 | xcbe | thoonai, I think people complain about laziness of bureaucrats everywhere |
| 13:57.33 | xcbe | germans are pretty efficient, but they have strict codes. |
| 13:57.38 | Max-P | waqstar, Stateless doesn't need to track the state of connections. It's a dumb NAT, it only rewrites the packets for a very specific rule that's 1:1. For instance, in your case it will just always rewrite public->private and private->public |
| 13:57.41 | thoonai | bascht: if its private property, well then the worst what can happen is that the police tells you to leave ^^ |
| 13:58.46 | thoonai | xcbe: well I know to many people working in administrative jobs: they are so lazy, you cant even imagine |
| 13:58.49 | Max-P | waqstar, A stateful NAT is what you probably use in your home router: it can't simply rewrite packets, it also needs to keep track of connections so it can transfer the replies back to the appropriate computer. A stateful NAT usually serves multiple machines, possibly dozens of them, over a single public IP |
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| 14:00.44 | Max-P | waqstar, (Because actually. there's no such thing as a "connection". For the routers, it's just a bunch of IP packets going from and to a specific IP back and forth. What's called a connection is handled in software on both sides of the connection) |
| 14:02.03 | xcbe | thoonai, admins are lazy by definition :D |
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| 14:02.27 | xcbe | i think its one of the attributes they are looking for when hiring |
| 14:02.55 | Max-P | xcbe, Most importantly, they spend countless hours setting up stuff just to be lazy ;) |
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| 14:03.16 | xcbe | Max-P, shuffle meaningless papers creating artificial work you mean? |
| 14:03.46 | xcbe | oh you mean like working hard to hardly work |
| 14:04.01 | Max-P | xcbe, Oh, oops. I thought you were talking about sysadmins |
| 14:04.01 | xcbe | like george costanza |
| 14:04.09 | xcbe | administrators in general :D |
| 14:04.14 | xcbe | sysadmins too |
| 14:04.21 | thoonai | wishes to get ldap running T.T |
| 14:04.25 | Max-P | needs sleep |
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| 14:04.43 | thoonai | pushes Max-P into bed |
| 14:04.44 | thoonai | ha! |
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| 14:05.03 | xcbe | thoonai, whats living in frankfurt like? |
| 14:05.06 | xcbe | is it a nice place? |
| 14:05.26 | Max-P | But i'm not done setting up the backup VM so I can route away the trafic from the live server so I can format the live server and reinstall a bunch of other VMs to finally route back the traffic |
| 14:05.32 | xcbe | is it a place id take my girlfriend for a vacation? |
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| 14:06.13 | Max-P | xcbe, But yeah, I said that because it's common for sysadmins (or me, at least), to spend a lot of time setting up automation so I can be lazy and do nothing |
| 14:06.29 | thoonai | xcbe: dont know, I'm not living in Frankfurt directly, but its nice for clubbing visiting some places but the towns around are way more interesting ;) |
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| 14:06.48 | xcbe | thoonai, like whats interesting about them? |
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| 14:07.21 | xcbe | Max-P, that sounds reasonable, why would you want to work hard if you dont have to |
| 14:07.29 | thoonai | more interesting stuff to see |
| 14:07.36 | xcbe | thoonai, like what? |
| 14:07.46 | xcbe | thoonai, picturesque landscape? |
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| 14:09.42 | thoonai | the landscape is quite nice, but you have to get into the neighbouring hills/small mountains |
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| 14:10.09 | thoonai | and Frankfurt is quite expensive |
| 14:10.20 | xcbe | i was meaning to ask |
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| 14:12.22 | xcbe | thoonai, I found a really cheap flight to Frankfurt |
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| 14:12.30 | xcbe | this weekend for a week |
| 14:12.46 | xcbe | I'm trying to find short term housing |
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| 14:14.22 | waqstar | Max-P: So in that case, isnt stateless going to be very slugish, as it will have to rewrite every time. If it keeps a track of the state, it can simply forward?? |
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| 14:17.51 | Max-P | waqstar, No, not at all. The filter have to apply to all packets no matter what. With stateless, there's no thinking: rewrite A to B, done. With stateful, it has to maintain an in-memory database and check for each packet to which connection it belongs, update its status (is it still connected? Have it timed out yet?) and then take decisions from there and rewrite the packet. NAT = Network Address Translation, the names says it: |
| 14:17.51 | Max-P | it will translate/rewrite packets. |
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| 14:19.18 | waqstar | Max-P: brilliant explanation, thnaks |
| 14:19.22 | waqstar | thanks * |
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| 14:19.52 | Max-P | In both cases it's a pretty fast operation anyway. We're talking about a few bytes, probably 8. That's nothing compared to the hundreds of kilobytes you'll be copying, analyzing and processing in your applications |
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| 14:20.18 | tkl2 | Hi there |
| 14:20.58 | tkl2 | I have a problem with jessie and rtl8192cu. The connection is constantly breaking up |
| 14:21.00 | waqstar | max Max-P: cool, also, could I not do this via iptables, been reading up and people say this can be done via iptables. Whats the advantage/disadvantage? does iproute2 come as default in debian? |
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| 14:22.02 | tkl2 | So is there any trick to get rtl8192cu working with jessie and 3.16 or 3.14?? |
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| 14:23.12 | Max-P | waqstar, I think both should be equivalent. I did use the iptables way before, but you will be using a much more complicated firewall to do the job. I don't know how they compare, but yes iproute is included by default. |
| 14:23.35 | Max-P | or at least I hope, I don't know how I would configure network without the "ip" command. |
| 14:24.02 | waqstar | Max-P: awesome. will use that |
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| 14:24.13 | waqstar | ah, lol. I thought its a seperate package |
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| 14:24.48 | Max-P | It is, I think it's in "iproute2", but i'm pretty sure it's there by default altough I don't install Debians very often |
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| 14:26.26 | waqstar | Max-P: found this: http://serverfault.com/questions/135053/iproute2-rules-and-iptables-nat-what-is-the-difference |
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| 14:29.18 | Max-P | waqstar, Yeah, like I said I didn't experiment much with the iproute way. Try both and see what works for you I guess. In my own case I simply assigned the public IP to my VM and routed the IP to it to avoid the entire NAT issues. |
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| 14:30.43 | waqstar | Max-P: yeah, i was thinking of using bridged network on the host so i can directly assign IP's. but this way i can learn a bit more about routing and nat :) |
| 14:30.52 | waqstar | thanks for yur help : |
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| 14:32.03 | Max-P | waqstar, It can be done without a bridge ;) |
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| 14:33.26 | Max-P | If ip_foraward=1 and the host knows the route, it will forward the packet like a router. "ip ro add XX.XX.XX.XX/32 dev venet7", and voila the virtual machine gets the IP forwarded to it and both machines even appear in the traceroute. |
| 14:34.08 | Max-P | (But you'll also need to tell your VM how to reach back the host by also adding the route to the host in the VM) |
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| 14:34.40 | waqstar | Max-P: ah. awesome! |
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| 14:36.31 | Max-P | In some cases it's also the only way to make it work. For example, OVH only routes packets to the main server's IP, so bridging doesn't do anything because it gets filtered out on their routers |
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| 14:50.05 | thoonai | xcbe: if you need some advice, help, stuff, Im often in #debian or #ubuntu |
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| 14:54.39 | gerforce | hello, i cannot play films encoded with Divx+ tecnology using Totem Movie Player. Any suggestions? |
| 14:55.00 | Roland- | hey folks, I am planning to use debian's kvm for production, however the question is about the qemu binary... is debian actually using the default qemu available or it has some advanced version like centos has |
| 14:55.07 | jolt | gerforce: VLC? |
| 14:55.20 | thoonai | gerforce: apt-get install libav{?} |
| 14:55.36 | thoonai | gerforce: or what jolt said :) |
| 14:55.50 | Max-P | Roland-, What kind of "advanced version"? Running it just fine here, but it depends on what you need exactly. |
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| 14:57.25 | Roland- | well I figure out since redhat owns the thing it should have it's own patches applied |
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| 15:01.18 | Max-P | Roland-, If it's open-source, it should also be in Debian provided the current version isn't too old |
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| 15:02.11 | Max-P | Also CentOS is not made by RedHat, RHEL is. CentOS is an unofficial RHEL clone, so it probably uses the same public open-source code available to everyone |
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| 15:05.20 | rasper | system crushed |
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| 15:06.23 | rasper | i am gerforce using irc on my phone |
| 15:06.34 | phy1729 | haasn: pretty sure RH has some sort of agreement now so CentOS is officialish |
| 15:06.42 | phy1729 | err Max-P ^ |
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| 15:08.04 | rasper | When i try to use VLC to play the film encoded with DivX+ ,system becomes so slow to do anything |
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| 15:08.52 | Max-P | rasper, What video drivers are you using? Crashes on video playback are usually related to hardware video decoding or overlay going bad |
| 15:09.37 | Max-P | phy1729, That's possible. I don't really follow CentOS at all, I'm allergic to rpms. |
| 15:10.14 | jscarano | Hi Guys, quick (noob) question: I Just installed Debian on my new laptop for first time and I now have an "Unrecognized" drive listed in Places > Computer (next to 'File System' device) that I'm unable to mount. Is that normal on a standard install? (Partitioning method: 'Guided - use entire disk and set up encrypted LVM' > 'All files in one partition') |
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| 15:12.46 | waqstar | Max-P: another question. When adding iptables routing rules. Which device should be used. At the moment I have several devices showing up in ifconfig. one is eth0, and the other relevant (i think) one is virbr0 which has the internal IP of 192.168.122.1 (I am using this as the gateway on the VM). Should I be using this one when saying which device to use when specifing -o in iptables? |
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| 15:15.23 | Max-P | waqstar, -o is the output interface, so it depends which way you are configuring. |
| 15:15.50 | Max-P | If it's public -> private vm, then yes, that would be -o virbr0 |
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| 15:17.39 | waqstar | Max-P: makes sense. thanks again |
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| 15:18.11 | zafu | hi, anyone using debian's ckeditor package? |
| 15:18.42 | Max-P | waqstar, the manpages are pretty useful, even if you don't understand it. At least you get the name of the options and a rough idea of what they do, and eventually you'll figure out what it does |
| 15:19.18 | Max-P | I've spent many years just remembering that I needed -J MASQUERADE , -A SOMETHING and other stuff without understanding anything |
| 15:19.20 | rasper | Max-p:How can i see my video driver ? |
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| 15:20.01 | Max-P | ... until I read the manual and learned that -A is append and -J is jump to rule. |
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| 15:20.30 | Max-P | rasper, if you don't know, then you are probably using the default open-source one. What video card do you have? |
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| 15:21.47 | rasper | Max-P:GeForceGT630M |
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| 15:23.21 | Max-P | So you are currently using nouveau. You might want to try the proprietary non-free driver. https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
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| 15:27.02 | rasper | Max-P:okay, i'll try. If i can simply using another video player to decode DivX+ films? |
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| 15:28.01 | Max-P | rasper, That won't change anything. On Linux, we avoid duplicating code. Every player will essentially end up using the same library (libxvid?) or ffmpeg. |
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| 15:29.14 | Roland- | hi folks. when I do a halt -p, I get a system halted message but the system is not actually powering off |
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| 15:29.48 | Roland- | any idea why ? |
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| 15:31.01 | Roland- | . /etc/default/halt has halt=poweroff |
| 15:31.05 | Max-P | Roland-, probably ACPI (or APM, if that's some really old hardware) related. Unfortunately that's all I know, I've never seen this problem in ages |
| 15:31.14 | rasper | Max-P: so the video driver i am using is decisive. |
| 15:31.20 | jordanm | Roland-: do you have processes stuck in a "D" state? |
| 15:32.12 | Max-P | rasper, Yeah, the video driver is really important. YOu can also try disabling hardware decoding entirely, but I don't know exactly how to do that. I think you have to get rid of vaapi, vdpau or something similar |
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| 15:32.49 | Max-P | Maybe someone else knows, I haven't played with that in a long time |
| 15:33.03 | ololorin | am i right that sudo badblocks -n will try to replace bad sectors with clear ones? |
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| 15:33.58 | Roland- | thanks for the info acpi is not compiled |
| 15:34.04 | Roland- | yes I know custom kernel unsupported. |
| 15:34.24 | rasper | Max-P:thanks i'll try.:-) |
| 15:35.06 | Max-P | Roland-, That's how you learn how your computer works :P |
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| 15:36.37 | rulezzz | One linux distro to run Adobe Photoshop on Wine |
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| 15:41.25 | CieNTi | Hey I have a doubt. I have a phisical display connected to a machine with linux. There is configured as not to auto-run X so I can launch "startx" from any user only when I want. Now I have launched X with user1 (:0) and with user2 (:1). Display is showing user2 desktop and the question is: How can I switch, via command line, :0 or :1 output to physical display? |
| 15:41.57 | Walex | CieNTi: that's not quite the right question... |
| 15:42.06 | Max-P | CieNTi, chvt? |
| 15:42.35 | Walex | CieNTi: you actually want to change the virtual console with CTRL-ALT-Fn or as <Max-P> says |
| 15:42.38 | CieNTi | Walex: can you explain me what i'm wrong? |
| 15:42.50 | CieNTi | oh sorry |
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| 15:43.10 | CieNTi | forgot to explain: no physically connected to it (keyb+mouse is on other machine) |
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| 15:43.57 | Walex | CieNTi: you have two completely indepent X sessions, both output to the same physical display, and it is the OS, via the virtual console mechanism, that allocates thr physical sdisplay to one console or aniother, not the X server. |
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| 15:44.29 | CieNTi | ok |
| 15:45.07 | CieNTi | tried to explain the best I can hehe |
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| 15:45.57 | CieNTi | Max-P and Walex chvt works perfect, and thanks for the extra explanations :) |
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| 15:46.42 | Max-P | Well you asked, from the command line, was decently clear to me even if the right term is "Change virtual console" |
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| 15:48.39 | CieNTi | nono, I prefer to know exactly the terms, it's perfect for me to learn more about this |
| 15:48.47 | CieNTi | and now have more info to search for :D |
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| 15:56.30 | __raven | hi |
| 15:57.18 | __raven | i am running proxmox 3.2 and have several 404 in apt-get update. servers are ping-able and paths are valid. how to find out the error |
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| 15:59.32 | __raven | any idea? |
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| 15:59.57 | thoonai | do you can access the path with an webbrowser? |
| 16:00.19 | __raven | thoonai: yes |
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| 16:02.16 | __raven | for example http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/main/binary-amd64/Packages |
| 16:02.35 | thoonai | __raven: no clue, sorry |
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| 16:05.52 | waqstar | Max-P: hey man, i got it working. thanks :D |
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| 16:06.19 | Max-P | waqstar, Great job :) |
| 16:06.26 | waqstar | now my vm has its own public ip being routed via the host |
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| 16:06.42 | waqstar | feels good when you learn something new and make it work :) |
| 16:06.45 | waqstar | thanks |
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| 16:11.59 | Skogger | im having some problems getting my 2nd monitor to detect in debian Radeon 7500M/7600M Series anyone could help? |
| 16:12.41 | __raven | i am running proxmox 3.2 and have several apt-get 404 errors. repos are ping-able from the machine itself and paths are valid. any ideas? |
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| 16:15.25 | Max-P | __raven, Can you post the full output of your apt-get update so we can see what's the actual error messages and the full paths? |
| 16:15.36 | Max-P | You probably have some misconfigured repos |
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| 16:20.42 | centrx | apt is having a bad week |
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| 16:22.28 | jhutchins | !proxmox |
| 16:22.28 | dpkg | Proxmox Virtual Environment (Proxmox VE) is a GNU/Linux distribution <based on Debian>, providing a virtualization platform with <OpenVZ> and <KVM>. It is not supported in #debian. http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Get_support |
| 16:22.50 | waqstar | Max-P: what do you think of systemd? |
| 16:23.24 | jhutchins | waqstar: That's not really a Debian support question. |
| 16:23.25 | Max-P | waqstar, Absolutely love it. So nice and simple, it just works |
| 16:23.53 | waqstar | jhutchins: sorry |
| 16:23.57 | __raven | Max-P: http://pastebin.com/0WueuMq0 |
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| 16:24.24 | purdope | Hey anyone have an idea on why debian keeps freezing |
| 16:24.36 | purdope | when i try to right click anything.. . |
| 16:24.48 | __raven | jhutchins: it is because theese are mostly debian repos |
| 16:25.31 | purdope | Example i open up the internet browser in middle of page or if i try to copy anything once i right click it feezes |
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| 16:26.13 | jhutchins | __raven: Really doesn't matter. What's wrong with proxmox is not a debian thing. |
| 16:27.11 | waqstar | jhutchins is having a bad day :( |
| 16:27.12 | __raven | jhutchins: its ON debian as you where able to read |
| 16:28.19 | Max-P | __raven, Huh, that's weird. What happens if you try to wget the packages from the computer that fails to update? |
| 16:28.43 | jhutchins | __raven: http://mirror-master.debian.org/status.html |
| 16:28.53 | __raven | Max-P: success |
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| 16:29.47 | __raven | jhutchins: tnx but it seems not be a server problem |
| 16:30.03 | purdope | __raven: any ideas ? |
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| 16:31.01 | __raven | purdope: no sry. sounds like a graphic problem with freezing effects overlay but i am not sure |
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| 16:31.33 | purdope | is there a command i can launch in terminal for update the after market drivers for invida ? |
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| 16:32.34 | purdope | I know the video card i have installed is more the capable of running anything linux |
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| 16:32.37 | __raven | first deactivate all effects plugins in display settings. then run apt-get update && apt-get install nvidia-current |
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| 16:32.53 | purdope | ok ty |
| 16:32.59 | purdope | ill give it a try now |
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| 16:33.59 | __raven | Max-P: jhutchins ? |
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| 16:36.24 | purdope | __Raven i got this error |
| 16:36.25 | purdope | E: Package 'nvidia-current' has no installation candidate |
| 16:37.22 | __raven | try "apt-get update nividia-" and 2x tab. what does that show? |
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| 16:37.57 | purdope | root@packeted:/home/d0pe# apt-get update nividia- |
| 16:37.57 | purdope | E: The update command takes no arguments |
| 16:37.59 | somiaj | !tell purdope about nvidia-dkms |
| 16:38.18 | somiaj | !tell purdope about nvidiadkms |
| 16:38.20 | somiaj | !tell purdope about nvidia dkms |
| 16:38.27 | purdope | ? |
| 16:38.33 | centrx | purdope, apt-get update updates the list of packages, not "update this package" |
| 16:38.34 | __raven | purdope: sry upGRADE |
| 16:38.50 | jhutchins | !nvidia |
| 16:38.50 | dpkg | Where possible, Nvidia graphic processing units are supported using the open source <nouveau> driver on Debian systems by default. To install the proprietary "nvidia" driver, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers or ask me about <nvidia dkms>, <nvidia legacy>; installing this directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 16:39.00 | __raven | no wait im wired |
| 16:39.31 | __raven | purdope: apt-get install nvidia- try that with 2x tab |
| 16:39.36 | somiaj | thrid time is the charm. purdope the bot should have sent you instructions on how to install the nvidia drivers, you'll want to use the dkms pkacages (my suggestion) and let them build the module for your kernel. What I sent works for modern nvidia cards, if you have an older card the new non-free drivers don't work with it. |
| 16:40.01 | somiaj | __raven: /msg dpkg nvidia dkms (that is the method I suggest people use for the nvidia drivers) |
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| 16:40.34 | purdope | oot@packeted:/home/d0pe# apt-get install nvidia- |
| 16:40.34 | purdope | Reading package lists... Done |
| 16:40.34 | purdope | Building dependency tree |
| 16:40.34 | purdope | Reading state information... Done |
| 16:40.34 | purdope | E: Unable to locate package nvidia |
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| 16:41.42 | arcke | apt vulnerability - again! |
| 16:41.50 | purdope | I don't know none of the commands seem to work. |
| 16:42.25 | somiaj | purdope: did you read the factoid I had the bot dpkg send you in a private message. That is some good instructions. (__raven seems to be a bit confused about the name of the debian packages) |
| 16:42.49 | arcke | im going to wait for updated apt deb release on the web site, as apt can not install its own security updates securely |
| 16:43.00 | __raven | somiaj: yes sry i am confused about doing 4 things the same time |
| 16:43.10 | purdope | somiaj: yes i did |
| 16:43.41 | purdope | somiaj: nvidia-detect command does not work |
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| 16:44.00 | purdope | somiaj: the identification command worked tho |
| 16:44.04 | purdope | and output my video card |
| 16:44.10 | arcke | should we add a notice to security updates for apt? |
| 16:44.27 | somiaj | purdope: what, no you ddin't there was no nvidia-detect command in teh factoid I sent you |
| 16:45.09 | purdope | at top of the page there was |
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| 16:46.11 | purdope | somiaj: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers ? |
| 16:46.27 | __raven | Max-P: jhutchins any idea about my problem? possible to manually fetch theese? |
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| 16:47.10 | Max-P | __raven, Sorry, I have no idea.That's going to be an issue specific to apt, and I don't know much about the internal details of apt. |
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| 16:47.36 | somiaj | purdope: that was not the factoid I sent you, the info is there under install, but I sent you a command you could just copy/paste, you can also jump to the install part https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Debian_7_.22Wheezy.22 |
| 16:47.48 | __raven | Max-P: hm but any idea what to do next to trace that error? |
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| 16:47.57 | Max-P | Obviously your network is working fine and it's trying to pull the correct files, so the only suggestion I,d have is to try another mirror just in case it's doing to weird user-agent based stuff |
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| 16:48.21 | purdope | somiaj: wheezy-backports command does not work though |
| 16:48.28 | somiaj | arcke: well the website will be just a vulnable to a man in the middle attack. The fix is on the mirrors (despite not mentioned on the website) you could use wget or curl to grab it if you didn't want to trust apt. |
| 16:48.30 | __raven | Max-P: i tried several *.debian.org |
| 16:48.41 | somiaj | arcke: well the fix is on security.debian.org |
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| 16:49.02 | Max-P | __raven, Wireshark/tcpdump could be an idea to see exactly what happens and why |
| 16:49.17 | arcke | somiaj: apt is vulnerable, i can use ssl and download with anything, just not with apt |
| 16:49.56 | arcke | somiaj: do you mean the advisory of sep 16? |
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| 16:50.54 | kriskropd | hi - so a good while back I enabled my debian-based machine to automatically load dwm in an x11 environment as a particular user without using a display manager like kdm or gdm or lightdm - only problem is ive forgotten how ive done it now - I'm pretty certain I did it by adding a single line of code to something that directed the runtime environment - this machine acts sort-of (not really) like a kiosk system, where the machine needs to boot ... |
| 16:51.00 | kriskropd | ... into a particular graphic environment without a user login or action after boot |
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| 16:51.24 | purdope | I don't know how this can be a graphics problem my internet browser only freezes when i right click |
| 16:51.37 | centrx | purdope, What browser are you using? |
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| 16:51.57 | arcke | i received DSA-3031-1 concerning apt today 18:18 |
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| 16:52.12 | purdope | iceweasel |
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| 16:52.35 | centrx | purdope, and it's the latest version? |
| 16:52.39 | centrx | ,v iceweasel |
| 16:52.40 | judd | Package: iceweasel on i386 -- squeeze: 3.5.16-20; squeeze-security: 3.5.16-20; squeeze-backports: 10.0.12esr-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 24.4.0esr-1~deb7u2; wheezy-security: 24.8.0esr-1~deb7u1; jessie: 31.1.0esr-1; sid: 31.1.0esr-1; experimental: 32.0-1 |
| 16:52.52 | centrx | purdope, wheezy: 24.4.0esr-1~deb7u2 |
| 16:52.59 | somiaj | arcke: no the current fix is on security.debian.org, just the webpage has not been updated to provide a new link. You can still download the fix directally from security.debian.org |
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| 16:53.07 | purdope | ? what does that mean |
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| 16:53.27 | centrx | purdope, If you type: dpkg -l iceweasel |
| 16:53.34 | somiaj | arcke: also packages.debian.org link it gives you to get the actual file is not https:// it is http:// so using that method to download the binary is just as vulanable to the man in the middle attack as using apt would be. |
| 16:53.38 | centrx | purdope, is that the version number you get? 24.4...deb7u2 |
| 16:54.04 | purdope | i get this 24.8.0esr-1~ amd64 |
| 16:54.06 | arcke | yes, it would, even my dnscrypt setup wouldnt change that |
| 16:54.37 | arcke | how does apt then get the package securely? |
| 16:54.56 | somiaj | arcke: http://security.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/a/apt/apt_0.9.7.9+deb7u5_amd64.deb -- that ist he link to the new fix (I just modified the one for teh deb7u4 fix from packages.debian.org) as you see it is not https:// |
| 16:54.59 | centrx | purdope, oh you're right, that's the right one, wheezy-security |
| 16:54.59 | tidux | arcke: use Aptitude, which isn't vulnerable to the bug |
| 16:55.00 | tidux | ;) |
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| 16:55.43 | purdope | I only have this right click problem on Gnome 3 and when i went to KDE |
| 16:55.50 | purdope | i never had this issue when using xfce |
| 16:55.52 | arcke | tidux: ldd `which aptitude` | grep apt |
| 16:55.52 | tidux | sounds like a graphics problem |
| 16:56.07 | somiaj | arcke: apt/aptitude use the keyring to verify the package they got is from a trusted source. So it is the info in the package that contains the verification not the transport protocol. |
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| 16:56.49 | purdope | A graphics problem would only effect internet browser right click? |
| 16:56.58 | arcke | the checksums should be protected from man-in-the-middle modification |
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| 16:57.03 | Darker_ | How can I tell rsync to delete files in the destination that aren't in the origin folder? The command that I current use it's -ahP |
| 16:57.29 | arcke | ofcourse, the keys are accessed through gpg |
| 16:57.31 | somiaj | arcke: provided you actually use them, if you use dpkg on the .deb after downloading it, that check is not done at the dpkg level. |
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| 16:57.48 | arcke | i just have to download and verify using gpg |
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| 16:58.18 | somiaj | arcke: that would work and I gave you alink to the fix so you don't have to wait for p.d.o to regenrate |
| 16:58.19 | purdope | When i use konqueror i dont have a right click issue at all |
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| 16:58.30 | purdope | it only seems to happen when using icew |
| 16:58.35 | arcke | yes, this would be ok |
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| 16:58.53 | arcke | first ive got to fix a meal |
| 16:58.56 | centrx | purdope, Maybe Gnome 3 and iceweasel aren't getting along? |
| 16:59.07 | tidux | aha, I think I know what it is |
| 16:59.17 | tidux | purdope: open about:config in iceweasel and disable xrender |
| 16:59.19 | purdope | Yeah but im currently using KDE centrx: |
| 16:59.31 | tidux | xrender doesn't play well with compositing environments like GNOME 3 or KDE 4 |
| 16:59.40 | tidux | Xfce doesn't do hardware compositing by default |
| 16:59.44 | tidux | graphics problem :) |
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| 17:03.13 | somiaj | arcke: I wonder if you just copy the .deb you downloaded to /var/cache/apt/archive and after you apt-get update, this way apt won't have to download the deb exposing the vulability but will still go though its verification checks (to me it sounds like only the http download part is vulabale not the actual install once you have the .deb) |
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| 17:04.30 | centrx | arcke, The only known vulnerability for that DSA seems to be causing crash/DDOS |
| 17:04.45 | Psil0Cybin | hey guys how do i change the login screen wallpaper |
| 17:04.46 | Psil0Cybin | ? |
| 17:04.51 | purdope | root@packeted:/home/d0pe# lspci -nn | grep VGA |
| 17:04.52 | purdope | 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GK107 [GeForce GT 630] [10de:0f00] (rev a1) |
| 17:05.27 | somiaj | centrx: the dsa I'm reading did say 'potentially to arbitary code execution.', not sure if it is possible or the security team is just going with the paranoia approach. |
| 17:05.56 | somiaj | Psil0Cybin: this depends on the display manager you use? Do you know what display manager you use? |
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| 17:06.45 | purdope | I doubt that . that video card cant run linux wms |
| 17:07.03 | Psil0Cybin | xfce4 |
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| 17:07.17 | centrx | somiaj, yeah I think that means that scenario was not actually attempted, just a general "buffer overflows can lead to arbitrary code execution" |
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| 17:07.27 | guest_bob | [ 84.207832] SysRq : This sysrq operation is disabled. |
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| 17:07.45 | guest_bob | where is that disabled/enabled ? |
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| 17:07.59 | purdope | tidux keeps saying graphics issue but makes no logic. |
| 17:08.30 | centrx | purdope, It sounded like there was a feature in iceweasel that's incompatible with a feature in Gnome and KDE |
| 17:08.39 | centrx | purdope, Try disabling xrender in iceweasel? |
| 17:08.55 | purdope | Its just not happening with internet browers though |
| 17:09.20 | somiaj | Psil0Cybin: that isn't a display manager but your desktop. I think xfce4 uses lightdm, but double check |
| 17:09.41 | somiaj | Psil0Cybin: try 'dpkg -l | grep -i display manager' -- do you see which one is isntalled. |
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| 17:10.25 | Psil0Cybin | yea thanks i figured it out somiaj |
| 17:10.27 | Psil0Cybin | ty |
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| 17:10.43 | purdope | centrx: once i open iceweasel it freezes until it closes. |
| 17:10.46 | intelikey | grep: manager: No such file or directory |
| 17:11.28 | somiaj | intelikey: hmm, guess I should put "display manager" in quotes. |
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| 17:11.36 | intelikey | eye |
| 17:11.52 | centrx | purdope, Looks like you can edit the config in a file called "prefs.js" in http://kb.mozillazine.org/Profile_folder |
| 17:12.11 | centrx | purdope, http://kb.mozillazine.org/Prefs.js_file |
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| 17:12.24 | intelikey | where are [ysyRQ]+[alt}+keys disabled/enabled ? |
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| 17:12.46 | centrx | intelikey, There is a kernel compilation option for it |
| 17:12.55 | centrx | intelikey, There is also probably an entry in /proc for it |
| 17:13.04 | intelikey | so only compile time ? |
| 17:13.17 | centrx | intelikey, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_SysRq_key#Configuration |
| 17:13.25 | intelikey | k |
| 17:13.30 | centrx | intelikey, Pretty sure the Debian stock kernel has it compiled in |
| 17:13.40 | purdope | centrx: so nano prefs.js ? |
| 17:14.02 | centrx | purdope, yes |
| 17:14.11 | purdope | yeah nothing comes up to edit |
| 17:14.18 | purdope | just black in the editor |
| 17:14.25 | purdope | blank* |
| 17:14.26 | intelikey | yean i get a message on [alt][sysRQ][E} says [ 84.207832] SysRq : This sysrq operation is disabled. |
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| 17:15.11 | centrx | purdope, It's in your ~/.mozilla directory somewhere I believe |
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| 17:15.25 | intelikey | was just wondering if there was a way to turn it back on... without a wierd echo 'boo' > /proc/something hack |
| 17:15.41 | centrx | intelikey, using /proc is not a hack, that's the standard way to set kernel settings |
| 17:15.58 | thoonai | ++ |
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| 17:16.47 | Eduard_Munteanu | There's /etc/sysctl.conf if you want a clean way to do that. |
| 17:17.23 | intelikey | Eduard_Munteanu: many thanks that's the ticket |
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| 17:19.30 | intelikey | ty & ttfn |
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| 17:24.32 | purdope | still no works |
| 17:24.51 | purdope | none of these commands will even work for me |
| 17:24.52 | purdope | http://lubos.rendek.org/nvidia-geforce-driver-installation-on-debian-wheezy-linux |
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| 17:26.17 | Eduard_Munteanu | purdope, define "don't work" |
| 17:26.43 | somiaj | purdope: just so much conflicting info out there, in the link I gave you to the debian wiki, https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Debian_7_.22Wheezy.22 -- feel free to skip part 1 (we'll only get the backported version if needed) start at step 2) apt-get update and tell me exactly which command fails. |
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| 17:27.31 | purdope | eduard_munteanu: http://paste.debian.net/122660/ |
| 17:27.40 | somiaj | I wonder if the issue is you need to enadble non-free in your souces.list, but anyways I guess go the backports route so you enable non-free as well |
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| 17:27.57 | purdope | somiaj: that link does not work |
| 17:28.08 | Eduard_Munteanu | purdope, does apt-get update really succeed? |
| 17:28.11 | purdope | i get the same errors as i do from the link i pasted |
| 17:28.14 | somiaj | purdope: what doesn't work, no where have you been told to install the package nvidia-detect |
| 17:28.33 | somiaj | purdope: again start at the link I gave you (I trust this approach) tell me exactly which line is the first to fail |
| 17:28.41 | Pheimors | I have this line in my boot logs "systemd[414]: Failed at step EXEC spawning /bin/plymouth" |
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| 17:28.57 | Pheimors | but I never installed plymouth. Where can I deactivate this ? |
| 17:29.14 | purdope | here is the update link |
| 17:29.15 | purdope | http://paste.debian.net/122662/ |
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| 17:29.42 | centrx | Pheimors, If it was installed as a Debian package, you can uninstall plymouth with: dpkg --purge plymouth |
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| 17:30.02 | purdope | somiaj: all the commands you posted from the link dont work. |
| 17:30.03 | centrx | Pheimors, You can keep it installed but stop it from running at startup, with update-rc.d, or whatever the systemd equivelent |
| 17:30.27 | Pheimors | I've never installed it as far as I remember, I really want those startup message |
| 17:30.48 | somiaj | purdope: well if you can't get the first to work don't move on. The first isn't even a command, the first is a set of lines you need to add to your /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 17:31.16 | somiaj | purdope: so lets do that, add those lines in step 1 to /etc/apt/sources.list -- then for verification please give us a copy of your soruces.list file at paste.debian.net |
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| 17:32.29 | purdope | somiaj i get permission denyd |
| 17:32.39 | purdope | And yes im root |
| 17:32.44 | Pheimors | centrx: on boot I have a black screen (no message) after disk check. I think that my plymouth not installed message is a hint on the cause |
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| 17:33.07 | Pheimors | But I don't have enough knowledge to dig more deeper on this |
| 17:33.28 | somiaj | purdope: what command did you type as root? |
| 17:33.30 | purdope | root@packeted:/home/d0pe# /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 17:33.30 | purdope | bash: /etc/apt/sources.list: Permission denied |
| 17:33.41 | somiaj | purdope: you don't run config files you edit config files |
| 17:33.48 | somiaj | purdope: what text editor do you like to use |
| 17:33.59 | purdope | should i use nano ? |
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| 17:34.35 | thoonai | hi, i could need some good ldap/kerberos tutorial |
| 17:34.52 | purdope | somiaj: http://paste.debian.net/122663/ |
| 17:35.06 | somiaj | thoonai: have you tried google, I think most of us would just go look there and paste it back to you. (: |
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| 17:35.35 | thoonai | somiaj: just found unusable stuff |
| 17:35.36 | somiaj | purdope: okay now follow the instructions for step 1), add the lines for wheezy backports to your system. Also nvidia is non-free so you need to apend the lines you have |
| 17:35.50 | purdope | ? |
| 17:37.20 | somiaj | purdope: http://paste.debian.net/122664/ -- as I said follow step 1) and add those lines to your config file. I also added contrib non-free to your other mirrors because you may want non-free software it sounds like |
| 17:37.33 | somiaj | purdope: make your sources.list file look like that, then go back to that page I linked and run command 2 |
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| 17:39.26 | thoonai | somiaj: Im a bit annoyed either the tutorials are like: yeah we now show you every detail what you does not need or the wring direction |
| 17:39.42 | purdope | so i erase all that is there and paste what you pastbind |
| 17:39.43 | purdope | ? |
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| 17:44.17 | somiaj | purdope: that would work, I just added the extra lines/options but your choice if you just want to detelet and ocpy/pate that works too |
| 17:44.47 | purdope | it wont mess up my updates ? |
| 17:45.11 | somiaj | as I said either works |
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| 17:46.25 | arcke | somiaj: i was thinking about security updates and i think it is not easy to do easily to incorporate in a security announcement a notice for users to follow whenever a regular update procedure would be insecure itself |
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| 17:47.05 | arcke | it can be very system dependent |
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| 17:48.53 | centrx | ye olde bootstrapping problem |
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| 17:52.13 | hedin | hey, I have set up a software raid og debian-7 with md0 = /boot, md1 = / and md2 = luks encrypted... how can I make debian ignore the luks partition during boot but keep it in crypttab and fstab, for easy mount post-boot ? |
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| 17:53.32 | jhutchins | hedin: noauto |
| 17:53.50 | jhutchins | hedin: man fstab |
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| 17:57.47 | dizzylizzy | i'm reading the man page for 'history' but can't find how to delete an entry? |
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| 17:59.09 | jhutchins | dizzylizzy: Why do you want to do that? |
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| 18:00.38 | dizzylizzy | because I accidentally typed my root password at the shell |
| 18:00.52 | dizzylizzy | dizzy lizzy wasn't paying attention |
| 18:01.11 | MasterXC | You could just clear it with "history -c" |
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| 18:01.51 | dizzylizzy | is that just for this session? |
| 18:02.49 | MasterXC | it permanently erases the history for that user |
| 18:03.02 | MasterXC | until obviously you type a new command and it starts a new history :p |
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| 18:04.08 | arcke | dizzylizzy: it depends on the shell and config, bash usually keeps it in .bash_history |
| 18:04.24 | arcke | search the file for your password |
| 18:04.36 | arcke | and you know its not there |
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| 18:05.52 | floyin | arcke, Might have to watch for when the history is updated. In my experience the history wont always get each entry (especially when I have multiple xterms open) |
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| 18:08.37 | efe | hi all. I need urgent help |
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| 18:09.02 | dizzylizzy | arcke: thankoo plez |
| 18:09.05 | efe | I accidentaly did cat debian.iso > /deb/sdb on wrong hdd |
| 18:09.09 | dizzylizzy | :( |
| 18:09.16 | dizzylizzy | the prognosis is not great, efe |
| 18:09.51 | hedin | jhutchins: fstab is not relevant in this case... I get prompted for passphrase to the partition before fstab tries to mount it |
| 18:10.03 | efe | sorry, I couldn't get it, can you be more clear ? I'm not a native speaker |
| 18:10.50 | efe | I tried testdisk to reach the hdd however couldn't succeed. Is there any way to recover data in the hdd? |
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| 18:11.29 | efe | anybody? |
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| 18:12.30 | dizzylizzy | probably not; definitely not whatever portion was overwritten, and with the filesystem headers gone it's going to make recovery on the unwritten portion difficult |
| 18:12.34 | dizzylizzy | efe ^^ |
| 18:13.05 | karlpinc | efe: You'll be better off going back to a backup. |
| 18:13.32 | efe | karlpinc: backup channel you mean ? |
| 18:13.44 | efe | karlpinc: I didn't get it |
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| 18:13.53 | karlpinc | efe: No. Your best option is to restore your backup copy of your files. |
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| 18:14.32 | efe | karlpinc: don't have one. I was trying to create bootable usb for debian installation. I worked on the wrong hdd by accident |
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| 18:16.11 | karlpinc | efe: Do you have personal files on the "wrong hdd"? |
| 18:16.20 | efe | karlpinc: Yes. |
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| 18:17.09 | karlpinc | You can try booting off an install cd or other sort of rescue cd and doing a fsck, using alternate superblocks. See what you get back. |
| 18:17.25 | Skogger | anyone have experience with dual monitors? |
| 18:17.26 | karlpinc | efe: What filesystem type? |
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| 18:17.34 | karlpinc | !tell Skogger about ask |
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| 18:17.44 | efe | karlpinc: must be NTFS or FAT |
| 18:17.49 | Brigo | efe, if testdicks cannot restore the information i have no clues. |
| 18:17.52 | Skogger | i finally got it to detect the 2nd monitor HDMI but cannot figure out how to extend instead of copy |
| 18:17.56 | efe | karlpinc: it's WD elements 500 gb |
| 18:18.38 | karlpinc | efe: FAT is a problem. As for NTFS, I don't know the best toolset to use to try to recover, or if it's even possible. |
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| 18:19.00 | efe | karlpinc: I see, thanks for the help anyway |
| 18:19.22 | karlpinc | efe: Someone else might know. |
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| 18:20.18 | d0pe | somiaj: Thank you very much |
| 18:20.23 | somiaj | efe: there are tools to recover files from ntfs filesystems, ##windows may know their names and which might be good. |
| 18:20.37 | d0pe | somiaj: All Internet browsers working fine no more freezes after i rebooted |
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| 18:20.50 | somiaj | got the nvidia-drivers running? |
| 18:20.54 | d0pe | yes |
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| 18:21.07 | d0pe | thank you so much for the support appericate it mate (: |
| 18:21.15 | Nodefag | any one give me cdkey for debian pls?? |
| 18:21.21 | TJ- | efe: Check out "testdisk" and "photorec", those are the 'standard' recovery tools and widely available |
| 18:21.48 | efe | TJ-: I've tried testdisk however couldn't reach the partitions even with the deep scan |
| 18:21.50 | Nodefag | it says i have to pay bitcoin,wmz,ukash or paysafecard for debian install |
| 18:22.01 | Nodefag | how do i fix this? |
| 18:22.10 | Nodefag | i know linux free... |
| 18:22.24 | efe | TJ-: somehow the data wasn't visible |
| 18:22.28 | jhutchins | !tell Nodefag about ig |
| 18:22.47 | Nodefag | im in the installation... have to pay for install |
| 18:22.55 | jhutchins | Nodefag: That's not a real debian installer then. |
| 18:23.15 | TJ- | efe: "photorec" can do raw recovery when testdisk can't find a valid file-system to reconstruct |
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| 18:23.31 | jhutchins | Nodefag: There is no key for the real one. See the personal message from dpkg for more info. |
| 18:23.41 | efe | TJ-: I see. I'll give it a try right now |
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| 18:24.33 | jhutchins | efe: If you overwrite the beginning of the filesystem with dd you're not going to recover anything. You might recover files from later partitions with photorec, but you've pretty effectively erased the drive. |
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| 18:25.09 | efe | has it ever happened to you too? I feel like a dead man |
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| 18:25.40 | karlpinc | efe: Yes... That's why I now keep a year or so worth of daily backups. |
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| 18:26.03 | Dagger | efe: remember all those people who told you to have backups? there's a reason they were saying that |
| 18:26.07 | jhutchins | efe: Same here. I'm especially careful to make sure I have a backup if I'm going to mess with drives or partitions. |
| 18:26.22 | efe | jhutchins: I see. what is dd by the way? |
| 18:26.43 | karlpinc | (Use rsync with --link-dest, or rsnapshot, or dirvish, or _something_.) |
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| 18:27.08 | jhutchins | efe: Data Dumper - works at the data block level rather than a file level for copying data. Good for writing iso images or creating image backups that can be mounted. |
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| 18:27.21 | Dagger | karlpinc: that's the main problem with doing backups. too many damn options to choose from :( |
| 18:27.26 | efe | jhutchins: I see, |
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| 18:28.16 | Dagger | karlpinc: even though the only worthwhile choice is "something that you're actually using" |
| 18:28.22 | jhutchins | efe: The reason I mentioned it is it's frequently used to make a bootable USB device like an installer. |
| 18:28.41 | karlpinc | Dagger: And "have actually tested a restore" with! :) |
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| 18:28.59 | efe | jhutchins: hmm what I did was cat debian.iso > /dev/sdb |
| 18:29.12 | jhutchins | efe: Yeah, pretty much the same effect. |
| 18:29.30 | efe | jhutchins: i see |
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| 18:30.34 | zupzupper | efe: are you just trying to make a boot usb from a debian iso? |
| 18:30.59 | jhutchins | efe: I once did a "find ,,, -delete" on the root of a multi-host webserver. Fortunately, the client had listened to me when I told him to have backups, because I mis-typed the command and included all files. |
| 18:32.02 | efe | jhutchins: my files are mostly photos of some trips etc. damn how volatile they are |
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| 18:32.43 | jhutchins | efe: You might try photorec - people have reported some pretty amazing recoveries of stuff like that. |
| 18:32.57 | jhutchins | efe: In the future, you could burn the photos to CD for archiving. |
| 18:33.16 | efe | jhutchins: I'm trying to install it but couldn't succeed so far. (beginner here) |
| 18:33.17 | karlpinc | Dagger: Admittedly, backup of MS Windows boxes is a lot less rewarding, since the only thing that you can really restore on another box is your personal files. All the programs you paid $$ for require original media. |
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| 18:34.28 | jhutchins | karlpinc: On the other hand, I've successfully transfered XP to a new drive using clonezilla, which argues it could be used for an image restore. |
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| 18:35.29 | Dagger | karlpinc: I do block-level images of my desktop. I can just restore the entire thing onto another drive, or extract user files if that somehow doesn't boot or something |
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| 18:55.24 | AndreeeCZ | hello guys. I'm trying to get xorg to run on macbook pro with ati. I have installed the propri ati drivers, xorg has loaded them, but this is what i get in xorg.log: Screens found, but none have a usable configuration. Fatal: No screens found. |
| 18:55.33 | AndreeeCZ | What can i do with this? |
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| 18:57.17 | towo` | how the driver was installed? |
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| 18:57.30 | towo` | psastebin the whole logfile |
| 18:57.47 | AndreeeCZ | ok hold on |
| 18:58.36 | karlpinc | Dagger, jhutchins: Yeah. Block level backups work ok with Windows, but only so long as the only hardware you're replacing is the drive. |
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| 19:00.29 | AndreeeCZ | whats the quickest way to pastebin file from terminal |
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| 19:01.38 | Dagger | karlpinc: Windows copes fairly well with other hardware changing these days. about the only major issue is forgetting to turn AHCI mode on, but I last tried that with XP and I suspect they've fixed it by now |
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| 19:03.57 | AndreeeCZ | towo`, paste.debian.net/122689/ |
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| 19:06.09 | towo` | AndreeeCZ, 1st, whatever driver you have it /etc/X11/xorg.conf it's the wrong i would say |
| 19:06.39 | towo` | AndreeeCZ, 2nd, you have more than one card, you should tell such things before posting some |
| 19:07.28 | AndreeeCZ | i see, okay |
| 19:07.38 | AndreeeCZ | well then |
| 19:08.09 | AndreeeCZ | towo`, paste.debian.net/122692 |
| 19:08.28 | towo` | Driver "radeon" |
| 19:08.40 | AndreeeCZ | is that wrong? |
| 19:08.43 | towo` | you ever read any amd howto? |
| 19:09.04 | towo` | fglrx is the name of the propritary driver |
| 19:09.10 | towo` | radeon is the free |
| 19:10.00 | AndreeeCZ | ok so i changed it to fglrx |
| 19:10.02 | arcke | AndreeeCZ: it depends on who you ask if it is right or wrong or neither |
| 19:10.49 | AndreeeCZ | i was trying to follow debian wiki on macbook pro, i failed with that |
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| 19:11.10 | towo` | with nomodeset readeon is everytime the wrong driver, because it can't work so |
| 19:11.16 | AndreeeCZ | then i tried reading some info on archlinux wiki and i think all that may have ended up with a bit of a mess |
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| 19:11.55 | AndreeeCZ | I have ati+intel in my main laptop (this one). There, only intel card is installed, and it works. |
| 19:12.17 | AndreeeCZ | that is - neither free or propri ati driver is installed |
| 19:12.27 | AndreeeCZ | is a similar option possible with the mbp? |
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| 19:15.16 | arcke | AndreeeCZ: you can try ati instead of radeon as an open source driver |
| 19:15.46 | towo` | what? |
| 19:15.54 | towo` | ati is not a driver |
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| 19:16.21 | AndreeeCZ | towo`, i mean i have ati and intel gfx devices |
| 19:16.29 | AndreeeCZ | and only intel driver is installed |
| 19:16.35 | arcke | its a wrapper, but i could detect some things and use the correct settings to load the driver |
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| 19:17.03 | AndreeeCZ | ok now i'm completely lost |
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| 19:18.30 | jere | I have followed all the instructions here to enable usb on my debian machine running in Vbox but have failed: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/31726/mount-usb-devices-in-virtualbox-with-ubuntu/ |
| 19:18.40 | jere | Can any one suggest an alternative? |
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| 19:20.18 | arcke | AndreeeCZ: controlling which driver is being used can be done through xorg.conf |
| 19:20.23 | ebfull | i'm running on a patched kernel; what's the recommended way to keep that easy to follow with APT and even linux mainline updates themselves? how do others approach this on debian? |
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| 19:20.39 | jere_ | I have followed all the instructions here to enable usb on my debian machine running in Vbox but have failed: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/31726/mount-usb-devices-in-virtualbox-with-ubuntu/ |
| 19:20.54 | arcke | you can install fglrx and test ati,radeon,fglrx separately by the setting in there |
| 19:20.56 | AndreeeCZ | arcke, ok, so which driver should i use and in what package is it located? :) |
| 19:20.57 | AndreeeCZ | right! |
| 19:21.30 | AndreeeCZ | fglrx is installed |
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| 19:21.48 | arcke | ati and radeon are in the kernel |
| 19:22.04 | AndreeeCZ | neither ati, radeon, nor fglrx work when in xorg.conf |
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| 19:22.21 | arcke | try without xorg.conf |
| 19:22.28 | AndreeeCZ | rm? |
| 19:22.33 | arcke | mv |
| 19:22.49 | AndreeeCZ | k |
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| 19:22.53 | towo` | hybrid graphics is not easy, since the implementations are different |
| 19:22.58 | arcke | then you can put it back any time |
| 19:23.45 | arcke | if it works without, some setting is wrong |
| 19:23.52 | AndreeeCZ | mv: paste.debian.net/122697 |
| 19:23.57 | AndreeeCZ | it doesnt |
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| 19:27.12 | arcke | AndreeeCZ: what intel chip is that? lspci might tell |
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| 19:33.03 | AndreeeCZ | arcke, intel corp 2nd gen core processor family integrated gfx controller |
| 19:33.09 | AndreeeCZ | rev 09 |
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| 19:34.37 | arcke | not sure, but sounds like vesa as a driver, just like the system tries automatically is the right option |
| 19:36.00 | towo` | the ddx would be intel, and the kernel driver would be i915 |
| 19:36.14 | towo` | not vesa |
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| 19:38.13 | AndreeeCZ | towo`, what does it mean for me in practice? |
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| 19:38.41 | towo` | AndreeeCZ, that your system should start without xorg.conf |
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| 19:38.52 | AndreeeCZ | which it doesnt :) |
| 19:39.27 | towo` | again, provide logfiles |
| 19:39.30 | arcke | make a config using intel for driver |
| 19:40.01 | towo` | and btw, if you can set the graphic card in bios/efi, then tell it |
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| 19:41.40 | imatsu | what is a fair hourly rate for programming drupal (PHP)? |
| 19:42.12 | arcke | in lines of code or money? |
| 19:42.31 | arcke | or lines of code/money |
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| 19:43.28 | nido | interesting metric, lines per cent per hour |
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| 19:44.09 | imatsu | hour? |
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| 19:45.09 | Skogger | is it possible to have non mirrored screen extension on 2nd monitor? |
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| 19:46.13 | zleap | if I install Debian from cd' where does it save the screenshots too, |
| 19:46.15 | zleap | ? |
| 19:46.36 | arcke | fair hourly rates for programming are fluctuating around the world |
| 19:46.43 | centrx | What screenshots would those be? |
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| 19:46.53 | zleap | the ones the graphical installer can produce, |
| 19:47.05 | zleap | you can click on a button to take a screen shot of the install process |
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| 19:47.30 | KTL | (maybe if you run within a virtual machine ... like virtualbox ...) |
| 19:47.35 | zleap | ok |
| 19:48.12 | zleap | i am just replacing what i have on my 2nd pc, the version of xubuntu is seriosuly out of date |
| 19:48.13 | KTL | if i wanted screenshots of some os-installer i would install it with virt-manager in my kvm-environment |
| 19:48.19 | zleap | ok |
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| 19:48.52 | zleap | i won't bother with them then, just use the installer normally then take screen shots later, i cna install on to virtual box on my main pc too for that |
| 19:49.03 | centrx | zleap, maybe /root |
| 19:49.13 | AndreeeCZ | ok i give up on this. Damn apple. |
| 19:49.26 | KTL | runs debian on a macbook :) |
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| 19:50.10 | AndreeeCZ | KTL, ati or nvidia? |
| 19:50.14 | KTL | nvidia |
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| 19:50.21 | AndreeeCZ | ok |
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| 19:51.07 | KTL | (old device but still very good) |
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| 19:51.49 | AndreeeCZ | most of the threads and stuff online is for nvidia macbooks |
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| 19:51.56 | AndreeeCZ | this is an ati macbook |
| 19:52.06 | AndreeeCZ | and i hate it already even more than i did before |
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| 19:54.20 | nesta | hello |
| 19:54.40 | zleap | hello nesta |
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| 19:55.57 | nesta | anyone here have any experience with mounting/using iPhone(iOS 6.1.6) on Debian Jessie? |
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| 19:57.35 | synmuffin | so trying to install debian on ibm p5 fixed the initramfs bug but now when it boots this: http://pixldrop.com/view/RcV7yMfB.png |
| 19:57.39 | synmuffin | and it just sites there |
| 19:57.41 | synmuffin | sits* |
| 19:57.56 | Lady_Aleena | Hello. (os: Debian wheezy, de: KDE) While I was working in KMail deleting emails I didn't want to keep, my computer started deleting everything it highlighted. I even went into another program, and it was deleting things there too. Anyone know how delete could get stuck like that. |
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| 20:03.19 | KTL | (nesta: maybe you could use the same trick i use on android: install a app that gives ssh-access, then mount that fs with sshfs) |
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| 20:03.43 | zleap | that may work |
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| 20:04.01 | zleap | or use sftp user@ip or user@phoneip |
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| 20:04.25 | KTL | yes, though sshfs is really much easier for me compared to sftp/scp |
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| 20:04.50 | nesta | hmm |
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| 20:05.14 | nesta | I would likely have to jailbreak the phone for this, wouldn't I? |
| 20:05.32 | nesta | it used to mount just fine but something is up with libimobiledevice/usbmuxd |
| 20:05.33 | KTL | on android i did not have to for that usecase, it was all userspace |
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| 20:06.07 | KTL | and it avoids all these funky usb-filesystems that never seem to work reliably |
| 20:06.09 | arcke | Lady_Aleena: sounds like a dangerous side effect of using kde delete |
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| 20:07.15 | arcke | sometimes when i drag and drop in windows on dual screen the things i pick are somewhere besides the pointer |
| 20:07.42 | arcke | reminding me i could always accidentally delete something in a gui |
| 20:07.49 | KTL | horror |
| 20:08.03 | arcke | on debian i use i3 |
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| 20:08.55 | KTL | if the behaviour is consistent ... maybe some fiddling with the xorg-config could help ... change mouse-type or try to add some offset... |
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| 20:09.48 | dizzylizzy | Lady_Aleena: you've been running into the most crazy problems for months now |
| 20:10.01 | dizzylizzy | i remember seeing you in here having really weird issues like a year ago with Debian |
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| 20:10.54 | KTL | aptitude purge poltergeist |
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| 20:18.34 | Skogger | i can get my tv to mirror my laptop screen no problem thru hdmi but when i try to get an extended desktop it will not work no idea wtf i am doing wrong |
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| 20:18.45 | Skogger | i cant be the only person to be tryin to dual monitor |
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| 20:27.21 | jhutchins | Lady_Aleena: Never seen that particular one. Highlight with mouse, release button, poof? |
| 20:27.39 | jhutchins | Lady_Aleena: I take it you've restarted KDE since? |
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| 20:38.50 | r3n1c0m | hi |
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| 20:41.13 | Knaldgas | Hmm, is there a simple way to tell Linux to "chmod a+rX" for all files and directories placed in a certain (parent) directory? |
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| 20:44.23 | format_c | Knaldgas, chmod a+rX * -R |
| 20:45.08 | Knaldgas | format_c: Ahh, I meant automatically... |
| 20:45.51 | format_c | you mean the umask? that's only possible in general |
| 20:46.08 | format_c | Not for a certain point in your directory tree |
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| 20:47.33 | busch | apt security update. again.... https://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2014/msg00219.html |
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| 20:50.05 | cuqa | hello, in ifconfig, does an increasing rx dropped counter indicate a problem? |
| 20:50.56 | centrx | cuqa, Ordinarily, 0 drops would be expected |
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| 20:51.53 | cuqa | ok, I see an increasing counter at lots of supermicro machines |
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| 20:52.44 | cuqa | also I find lots of discussions about the problem related to some Intel NICs used on Supermicro boards but a solution is still missing :| |
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| 20:55.22 | karlpinc | cuqa: Well, I've got a wonky old Dell that crashes every month or so due to something NIC related. Consider yourself lucky. ;-) |
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| 20:57.04 | Vasistha | I have a new computer with built-in intel hd graphics 4600. But X is coming up in VESA 1024x768. What to do? |
| 20:57.10 | Knaldgas | format_c: I didn't think so. One could always make use of the inotify command, but a bit too much of a hack I think... |
| 20:58.15 | karlpinc | Vasistha: Probably needs the right driver, and perhaps there's non-free firmware involved? |
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| 20:58.59 | karlpinc | Vasistha: Someone here should be able to help.... (Kinda busy now...) |
| 20:59.30 | cuqa | what would be nice is if it is possible to gather the dropped packets |
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| 20:59.54 | cuqa | I see this problem at almost ANY supermicro server I look at |
| 21:00.01 | karlpinc | Knaldgas: There's incron. It's handy for that sort of stuff -- if you want to go there. |
| 21:00.12 | jhutchins | cuqa: How many do you have? |
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| 21:01.16 | cuqa | the one with the biggest "problem" .. 0.5 rx dropped per second |
| 21:01.33 | cuqa | which is 0.04% of packets |
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| 21:03.03 | cuqa | but I dont see any other problems with the NIC |
| 21:03.30 | cuqa | http://pastie.org/private/svfrdpt46woimw4h8xstw |
| 21:03.41 | cuqa | ethtool does not report drops |
| 21:04.21 | karlpinc | !tell Vasistha about pciid |
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| 21:05.11 | jhutchins | cuqa: Could be switch or cable, but I've seen hardware problems like that on supermicro systems before. |
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| 21:07.27 | cuqa | that would mean like 90% of all cables we use are brokeN :) |
| 21:07.46 | format_c | cuqa, what is your MTU? |
| 21:07.51 | cuqa | maybe we just buy crap! |
| 21:08.22 | jhutchins | cuqa: Or the switch is flaky. |
| 21:08.49 | cuqa | mtu is 1500 |
| 21:08.51 | jhutchins | cuqa: What spec are they? 5e? 6? |
| 21:09.20 | format_c | cuqa, could also be that your NIC is hit by Jumbo Frames. Every driver/chip handles Jumbo Frames differently if not supported or enabled. |
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| 21:09.51 | jhutchins | cuqa: Get a known good card and throw it in a test server, see if it works any better. |
| 21:10.03 | cuqa | 5e |
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| 21:10.19 | format_c | Increase your MTU just to see if the counters stay. |
| 21:10.27 | format_c | I hate Jumbo Frames. |
| 21:10.32 | cuqa | well, there are lots of jumbo frames in the network |
| 21:10.39 | format_c | It's not good networking. |
| 21:10.49 | cuqa | I havent implemented them :) |
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| 21:11.07 | format_c | Why do you know that there are lots of jumbo frames in your network? |
| 21:11.11 | Lady_Aleena | arcke, I was using the delete button. |
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| 21:12.33 | Lady_Aleena | dizzylizzy, I know. I wish I knew why, however, until I find someone who lives in my area and loves Debian so much the person would come over and look at my set up for free, I am going to continue to be cursed with weird issues. |
| 21:12.38 | cuqa | or well, not in that vlan |
| 21:13.00 | zleap | Lady_Aleena, is there a Linux user group near you ? |
| 21:13.18 | Lady_Aleena | jhutchins, no, I have not rebooted since then. It stopped after a few minutes. |
| 21:13.36 | Lady_Aleena | zleap, no LUG nearby. |
| 21:13.50 | zleap | ok |
| 21:13.57 | cuqa | You think it's possible that LLDP or STP frames cause this counter to increase? |
| 21:14.11 | Lady_Aleena | zleap, the nearest LUG is about an hour away. |
| 21:14.29 | zleap | ah ok |
| 21:14.39 | zleap | what about things like raspberry pi jams |
| 21:14.46 | zleap | should be able to find Linux users at that |
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| 21:15.23 | Lady_Aleena | Um...never heard of that. |
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| 21:15.45 | zleap | Raspberry Pi single board computer but it runs raspbian which is arm debian for the pi |
| 21:15.58 | zleap | where are you based i can have a look around if there is anything near to you |
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| 21:16.09 | Lady_Aleena | By the way, the reason for my long lag in responding is I had to run to the pharmacy to pick up my prescriptions. |
| 21:16.12 | d0x | Any ideas how to get a virtual wifi adapter? I have an application that provides some services if it detects an wifi adapter? |
| 21:17.32 | Lady_Aleena | zleap, you lost me regarding "raspberry pi single board computer". I live in northern Frederick County MD. |
| 21:17.38 | Lady_Aleena | I am in the boonies. |
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| 21:17.46 | zleap | maryland |
| 21:18.06 | zleap | hmm |
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| 21:18.41 | zleap | Lady_Aleena, www.raspberrypi.org |
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| 21:19.28 | Lady_Aleena | At one time I tried to create a LUG/Perlmongers group, but I only got two responses. :( |
| 21:19.33 | zleap | ok so where is Maryland in relation to MA, (Boston) |
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| 21:19.49 | jhutchins | Lady_Aleena: Our LUG is 90% on line. |
| 21:19.56 | Lady_Aleena | zleap, south. |
| 21:20.01 | zleap | how far |
| 21:20.43 | zleap | when i was in canada i went to huntsville ontario for the day, and the guy in the computer shop runs Linux so i kinda doubled the linux user population there for just a few hours |
| 21:21.18 | Lady_Aleena | zleap, you'd have to drive through New York and Pennsylvania. |
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| 21:22.10 | zleap | hang on i got a map here, MA is north of MD according to that |
| 21:22.17 | zleap | MASS |
| 21:22.34 | jhutchins | gently presses the topic back toward Debian support. |
| 21:22.35 | zleap | md is just north of virginia |
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| 21:22.48 | jhutchins | There is #debian-offtopic for general conversation. |
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| 21:23.08 | zleap | jhutchins, this is, I am trying to find where people are so i can maybe help find some local help |
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| 21:25.01 | Lady_Aleena | zleap, don't worry about it overmuch today (or for a while). I have other things in my life which are taking precedence. |
| 21:25.08 | zleap | ok |
| 21:25.13 | zleap | well there is the nylug |
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| 21:25.32 | Lady_Aleena | zleap, #debian-offtopic to continue the discussion however. |
| 21:25.37 | zleap | okj |
| 21:26.02 | Walex | Lady_Aleena: "in my life"? "life"? Don't mention that 4-letter word on IRC... |
| 21:26.06 | Walex | :-) |
| 21:26.13 | zleap | lol |
| 21:26.36 | Lady_Aleena | Walex, #debian-offtopic :) |
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| 21:29.15 | optraz | im using network-manager |
| 21:29.17 | optraz | is there a postscript? |
| 21:29.26 | optraz | i want to execute certain command after the interface is up |
| 21:30.20 | Walex | optraz: web search? :-) |
| 21:30.28 | optraz | debian network manager post |
| 21:30.31 | optraz | none really |
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| 21:31.58 | Walex | https://www.google.com/search?num=100&safe=images&as_q=post+script&as_epq=network+manager |
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| 21:33.17 | Knaldgas | karlpinc, very interesting, thanks! It seems like a cleaner solution than using daemonize inotify yourself :) |
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| 21:40.50 | __raven | how to use sshfs (fuse) in a debian 7 container? modprobe fuse error... |
| 21:41.44 | optraz | Walex: thanks brah.. there is a /etc/NetworkManager/dispatcher.d/ disptach which eventually called to /etc/network/if-up.d |
| 21:41.47 | optraz | i create the scrip tthere |
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| 21:42.44 | jhutchins | !sshfs |
| 21:42.44 | dpkg | sshfs is a <FUSE>-based filesystem using <SSH> for securely mounting remote resources. See http://fuse.sf.net/sshfs.html and http://sf.net/apps/mediawiki/fuse?title=SshfsFaq for more information. Remember to add yourself to the 'fuse' group. If you have problems with stale sshfs mounts, set ServerAliveInterval 30 (for 30 seconds) in /etc/ssh/ssh_config or ~/.ssh/config. |
| 21:43.12 | Walex | optraz: good choice that's the debian specific way, so it works with most network management scripts... |
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| 21:48.29 | OldParr | can i see a .iso DVD of a movie in a usb flash drive ? |
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| 21:49.27 | jhutchins | OldParr: I suspect you mean you want to play the movie? |
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| 21:49.40 | OldParr | yes, i am sorry for the error |
| 21:50.14 | OldParr | but play it from a usb stick , not from a DVD media |
| 21:50.17 | jhutchins | OldParr: No problem. Yes, as long as the DRM doesn't get in the way. If it doesn't play smoothly, copy it to the hard drive. |
| 21:51.04 | OldParr | jhutchins: i want to play it on a TV with usb input |
| 21:51.12 | jhutchins | OldParr: I prefer mplayer, but a lot of people like vlc. |
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| 21:51.27 | OldParr | yes VLC opens it very well |
| 21:51.31 | jhutchins | OldParr: Now that I wouldn't know, TVs have a LOT of different capabilities. |
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| 21:52.10 | jhutchins | OldParr: I would be surprised if the TV recognized an iso file as a disk image. |
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| 21:52.26 | OldParr | jhutchins: i suspected that fact about the limitations on the TV |
| 21:53.00 | centrx | If you plug your toaster into the TV, and plug the USB into the toaster,... |
| 21:53.20 | jhutchins | OldParr: I really wouldn't expect a TV to have DVD reading capability. A DVD player might bea ble to handle it. |
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| 22:03.21 | Vasistha | thanks karlpinc ! |
| 22:04.11 | Vasistha | pciid 8086:0412 - Haswell Graphics controller |
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| 22:11.04 | OldParr | jhutchins: thanks |
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| 22:30.22 | schoppenhauer | hello. can i somehow let phppgadmin be automatically configured in wheezy. like it would be done with dbconfig-common (I think) when installing phpmyadmin? |
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| 22:37.41 | Roland- | hello what is the eol date for debian 7 ? |
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| 22:41.59 | MrFrood | hmm... dpkg's eol factoid needs an update as it still refers to lenny. Roland- normally 1 year after the release of a new stable however Debian has recently started an LTS thang and I'm not sure what the deel is with that |
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| 22:43.02 | MrFrood | !tell Roland- about lts |
| 22:43.47 | Roland- | yeah |
| 22:43.55 | Roland- | I refuse to upgrade to debian 8 anytime soon |
| 22:44.06 | Roland- | it will be a challenge as systemd is being used |
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| 22:44.13 | Roland- | or will be used |
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| 22:47.12 | schoppenhauer | oh god systemdflames \o/ |
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| 22:48.16 | schoppenhauer | systemd will burst under its own weight in no later than 5 years. and debian announced to keep other init systems. |
| 22:48.27 | petn-randall | Roland-: You can always fork. Good luck! |
| 22:48.28 | schoppenhauer | â I see no problem there |
| 22:48.39 | Roland- | I like systemd |
| 22:48.44 | zleap | schoppenhauer, so do you see us goiing back to systemv |
| 22:48.48 | Roland- | but switching to it ... that is the issue |
| 22:49.01 | Roland- | specially when you have like 80 servers to do it. |
| 22:49.20 | schoppenhauer | zleap: I never understood what was bad at, say, openrc. |
| 22:49.20 | Roland- | I want to believe upgrade will go smooth. |
| 22:50.08 | petn-randall | Roland-: You read the manual, adapt your workflow and carry on. Just like with openofficeâlibreoffice, XFree86 â X.org, Gnome2 â Gnome3, ifconfig â 'ip', etc. pp. |
| 22:50.19 | Roland- | cool |
| 22:50.20 | Roland- | thanks |
| 22:50.29 | zleap | schoppenhauer, i don't fully understnad the differences other than it is about the way services are loaded in or something |
| 22:50.50 | schoppenhauer | zleap: differences? between what? |
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| 22:51.46 | zleap | schoppenhauer, i thought it handled things loading in things differently sysv vs sysd |
| 22:52.14 | zleap | i am not an expert so when you talk face to face wi th people you get a for / against view rather than a neutal viewpoint |
| 22:52.31 | zleap | sysv has worked for decades so why change it sort of thing |
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| 22:58.50 | user1 | can somebody reply on this messega about 3 seconds for testing purposes? thanks in advance! |
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| 23:00.53 | schoppenhauer | milch |
| 23:01.00 | schoppenhauer | user1, milch |
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| 23:14.18 | muchacha | hi pietje |
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| 23:18.20 | muchacha | hi pietje |
| 23:18.28 | pietje | exit |
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| 23:21.37 | user1 | hi pietje |
| 23:21.56 | user1 | pietje: |
| 23:22.03 | pietje | pietje: |
| 23:22.10 | pietje | user1: |
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| 23:27.02 | pietje | C |
| 23:27.05 | pietje | clear |
| 23:27.07 | pietje | exi |
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