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| 00:08.58 | s7r | hello. have a question, searched the internet but didn't find a clear explanation. what is the real difference between a http and https proxy? Because I am using a http proxy right now and I can access ssl-enabled websites just fine. so what will the https do additionally? |
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| 00:13.24 | Brigo | s7r, there is no such thing like https proxy. The https connections are encripted, and only the server and the client can managed it, so a https-proxy cannot handle it. |
| 00:14.00 | s7r | but I have a program which GUI puts me to select http,https,socks4,socks4a or socks5 proxy type |
| 00:14.05 | s7r | so it has a conotation |
| 00:15.29 | Brigo | s7r, that is a proxy only for you, it make the connections for you, well yes you can call it a proxy but it is not what a proxy -like squid- is. |
| 00:15.40 | shibboleth | Brigo: well, yes and no |
| 00:15.53 | Brigo | shibboleth, i love your answer :D |
| 00:15.57 | shibboleth | Brigo: cloudflare found a way around that |
| 00:16.16 | shibboleth | Brigo: although they are indeed oblivious as to the content being passed through |
| 00:16.50 | shibboleth | so yes and no :) |
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| 00:17.12 | Brigo | shibboleth, so what they do https over https?? |
| 00:17.29 | shibboleth | Brigo: check ars, detailed description and flow charts |
| 00:17.49 | Brigo | ars? |
| 00:17.52 | shibboleth | technica |
| 00:18.05 | s7r | hmm. https and http are the same thing in proxy context apparently. |
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| 00:22.26 | Vasistha | I have a new computer with built-in intel hd graphics 4600. First X came up with VESA 1024x768. Then I installed backported kernel 3.14, now I've got 1680x1050. But I'm aiming for 2560x1440. What else can I do? |
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| 00:24.00 | Vasistha | I tried installing jesse, that came up with 1680x1050 by default. I don't need any fancy 3d capability or anything. Just more pixels ... I mean this isn't really that complicated, is it? The monitor mode lines are shown in Xorg.0.log |
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| 00:49.07 | MrFrood | !tell Vasistha about intel-gfx |
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| 01:01.58 | Vasistha | MrFrood: xserver-xorg-video-intel is installed... |
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| 01:04.42 | somiaj | Vasistha: look at the output of xrandr, does it say that resolution is supported? Have you doublec checked /var/log/Xorg.0.log to see what graphics driver is loaded and modes are detected? |
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| 01:07.29 | Vasistha | somiaj: xrandr does not show the mode I want. Xorg.0.log has a modeline for it from the DDC detection. how do I know which log lines are associated with the graphics driver? |
| 01:08.02 | somiaj | well you should see a lot of lines saying INTEL to say the graphics driver is loaded, are you sure the monintor supports such a resolution? |
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| 01:08.41 | Vasistha | somiaj: The only reason I purchased the monitor is because it supports this resolution |
| 01:09.17 | Vasistha | ah okay, so I'm looking at a bunch of (II) intel(0) lines, these are for the graphics driver then? |
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| 01:09.54 | ynix | Is there a Debian guide on installing to a USB stick? What optimizations to do, etc. |
| 01:10.06 | phogg | !tell ynix about usb install |
| 01:10.17 | Vasistha | somiaj: would it be useful for me to pastebin Xorg.0.log ? |
| 01:10.33 | somiaj | how are you connecting to the mointor Vasistha |
| 01:10.47 | Vasistha | somiaj: dual dvi cable, packaged with the monitor |
| 01:11.00 | somiaj | Vasistha: sure I'll look at your Xorg.0.log |
| 01:11.16 | somiaj | ynix: usually usb installs are slow, a live system with presistance may give you better preformance |
| 01:11.41 | ynix | somiaj: Any guide on that? |
| 01:11.59 | somiaj | ynix: http://live.debian.net/manual/1.x/html/persistence.html |
| 01:12.11 | ynix | thanks! |
| 01:12.17 | somiaj | ynix: that will work with live images from live.debian.net, you can also use their docus/guide and make your own custom live image with the software you use. |
| 01:13.50 | Vasistha | somiaj: http://paste.debian.net/122732/ |
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| 01:15.09 | ynix | thanks |
| 01:15.28 | somiaj | Vasistha: and output of 'xrandr -q' please |
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| 01:15.30 | Vasistha | so I'm noticing line 178 it's printing probed modes, and those give max 1680x1050. Later on line 408, printing DDC gathered modelines shows the desired 2560x1440. |
| 01:15.59 | Vasistha | somiaj: xrandr -q also only has the max 1680 x1050 (59.88) on HDMI1, and some lower resolutions |
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| 01:16.42 | somiaj | I thought you said you were connected vi dvi, hdmi on many monintors limits resolution to 1080p or 780p |
| 01:16.57 | Vasistha | it is connected via dvi |
| 01:17.17 | somiaj | I want the output of xrand -q to make sure you are using the dvi, well from the xorg log it seems it is connected vi hdmi, again can I have the output please |
| 01:18.33 | Vasistha | it takes a moment, have to transfer on a usb stick. xrandr shows VGA1 (disconnected) HDMI1 (connected, option shown) and HDMI2 disconnected; although the monitor has VGA, HDMI, DisplayPort, DVI. I'll get the info in a paste in a moment |
| 01:18.58 | somiaj | I do see it is getting the larger modelines, but for the HDMI-1 it is caping off at 1600ish |
| 01:19.58 | Vasistha | xrandr -q http://paste.debian.net/122733/ |
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| 01:20.47 | Vasistha | So perhaps the problem is that for whatever reason, the intel driver is treating the DVI jack as HDMI? |
| 01:20.50 | somiaj | I wonder if the hdmi output you are using is what is limiting you |
| 01:21.22 | somiaj | could be, I do see the monintor gives you the modlines for the resolution you want, but it is caping off the modline on that hdmi-1 device for some reason. That is about all I could figure out |
| 01:21.56 | Vasistha | when you connect via dvi, does xrandr usually identify the connection as being DVI? |
| 01:22.26 | somiaj | Vasistha: I haven't used a dvi connenction in a while so I am unsure, I would assume so |
| 01:22.33 | somiaj | Vasistha: you could try to 'force' the higher mode if you want. |
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| 01:22.52 | somiaj | Vasistha: on the Xorg.0.log you posted, scroll down to the bottom say line 434 |
| 01:23.04 | somiaj | Vasistha: you can use that info to add the modeline |
| 01:23.21 | Vasistha | I was kinda looking at that earlier |
| 01:23.28 | Vasistha | http://www.x.org/wiki/FAQVideoModes/ |
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| 01:23.51 | Vasistha | is it possible to specify the new modeline in a running X rather than having to go through xorg.conf and an X restart? |
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| 01:26.03 | somiaj | Vasistha: xrandr --newmode "2560x1440" 241.50 2560 2608 2640 2720 1440 1443 1448 1481 +hsync -vsync |
| 01:26.57 | somiaj | Vasistha: I copied those numbers from teh Xorg.0.conf file, that should then allow you to set that mode with xrandr, it may not work if the hardware setup you have doens't support it though |
| 01:27.20 | somiaj | Vasistha: yes you have to specify the modes I gave you in the running X and will have to do it each time you boot |
| 01:27.54 | somiaj | Vasistha: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/xrandr#Adding_undetected_resolutions -- that is what I was looking at |
| 01:28.14 | TyrfingMjolnir | WTF? http://linux-beta.slashdot.org/story/14/09/23/2312251/debian-switching-back-to-gnome-as-the-default-desktop |
| 01:28.18 | TyrfingMjolnir | No e19? |
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| 01:29.49 | somiaj | TyrfingMjolnir: e19 was never considered as a 'default desktop' |
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| 01:30.05 | TyrfingMjolnir | :-( |
| 01:30.09 | somiaj | TyrfingMjolnir: not sure if anyone is packing e19 for debian or not, but debian provides you the freedom to use the desktop you want. |
| 01:30.30 | TyrfingMjolnir | I only use ssh to my debian boxes |
| 01:30.38 | TyrfingMjolnir | But would really like to see enlightenment again |
| 01:30.49 | somiaj | yea looks like you would have to build it yourself |
| 01:30.52 | TyrfingMjolnir | 0mq also |
| 01:31.14 | TyrfingMjolnir | postgresql has such a nice standalone deb repo |
| 01:31.22 | TyrfingMjolnir | Wish enligtenment also had this |
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| 01:32.37 | somiaj | TyrfingMjolnir: soundss like you best make one. (: |
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| 01:34.59 | TyrfingMjolnir | Make one, can |
| 01:35.05 | TyrfingMjolnir | But maintain this? |
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| 01:36.31 | somiaj | TyrfingMjolnir: personally I would just build it, (: |
| 01:36.45 | TyrfingMjolnir | Do on occations |
| 01:36.53 | TyrfingMjolnir | The slackware/gentoo way |
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| 01:37.16 | TyrfingMjolnir | It's not quite a debian way to install stuff though... |
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| 01:46.07 | nickgaw | Hi, on a debian-live disc or any live disc such as GRML what boot option can you pass to the disc that loads the entire disc into ram provided you have enough and then lets you unload the disc so you can use it in the live system for example if I was trying to rescue files from my windows or linux system before reinstalling it? |
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| 01:46.55 | nickgaw | I wish to boot into a live disc then unload the disc so I can reuse the drive in the live system. |
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| 01:50.10 | DESCO | hi, what package provides xfsprogs |
| 01:51.42 | sterns | nickgaw: don't know about that option, but how about running linux off of USB? |
| 01:52.39 | DESCO | oh, i don't have the mirror |
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| 02:00.29 | queso | I am using Debian Wheezy with the standard Gnome 3 interface. My install is fresh on my laptop. Why does xterm not have an icon/app under Activities -> Applications? How can I add it? |
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| 02:05.42 | karlpinc | DESCO: You can use either apt-file or packages.debian.org to find the answer. |
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| 02:08.26 | DESCO | karlpinc: yeah, but my problem was that i didn't have the wheezy main urls in my sources.list |
| 02:08.35 | DESCO | karlpinc: i fixed it now, thank you anyways |
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| 02:16.57 | meatymeat | anyone else have flash issues recently? |
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| 02:25.26 | Vasistha | somiaj: success! Well I tried connecting using an hdmi cable instead of the dvi. With an hdmi cable it is happy to display 2560x1440 (using interface hdmi2) although with a dvi cable (interface named hdmi1) it won't do that resolution. I'm not attached to using a particular cable, so I'm set. |
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| 02:31.21 | ynix | I've got Debian installed on a USB stick. What do I have to do to completely turn off all logging so that there as few writes to the stick as possible? |
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| 02:35.04 | Vasistha | ynix: I've used debian on several usb sticks. Honestly I don't worry so much about that. I do disable swapping though (I don't even make a swap partition) |
| 02:35.47 | ynix | yes I didn't make a swap |
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| 02:35.51 | ynix | I also set noatime |
| 02:35.54 | ynix | in fstab |
| 02:39.11 | Vasistha | ynix: I did have one of them go bad once, but usually I'm ready for a new one before I see any problems |
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| 02:39.53 | ynix | how long are they lasting for you? |
| 02:39.56 | ynix | and what are you doing with them |
| 02:40.09 | Vasistha | couple years. And using for software development |
| 02:40.20 | Vasistha | maybe longer actually |
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| 02:42.19 | catern | https://release.debian.org/jessie/arch_qualify.html |
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| 02:42.30 | catern | I see "No" for both the kFreeBSD candidates |
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| 02:42.42 | catern | does this mean no kFreeBSD arch for jessie? |
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| 02:44.27 | catern | i hope so |
| 02:44.34 | catern | happy to see more features of the Linux kernel be used |
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| 02:57.27 | awc737 | Hey |
| 02:57.50 | awc737 | what is the left most column on apt-get results list? |
| 02:58.08 | awc737 | it has "i" (installed) / or v / id / p , etc |
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| 02:58.40 | mengesb | awc737: there's the state of install, then the state of configuration |
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| 02:58.46 | awc737 | i wasn't sure about "iud" |
| 02:58.48 | mengesb | ii = installed and configured successfully |
| 02:58.49 | awc737 | i mean, id |
| 02:59.06 | zophy | what is up with this systemd thing ? |
| 02:59.13 | mengesb | awc737: man dpkg-query |
| 02:59.17 | awc737 | oh, i must have a lot not configured succesfully. fried my xorg or something |
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| 02:59.53 | awc737 | I tried amd drivers, glx, fglrx alternative, no clue what's installed anymore |
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| 03:00.57 | awc737 | nvm needed this sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 03:01.46 | awc737 | mengesb what is "pi" and "id" |
| 03:02.15 | awc737 | nvm i will man dpkg-query |
| 03:02.19 | mengesb | awc737: you know what man is about =0 |
| 03:02.22 | mengesb | there yah go |
| 03:02.49 | awc737 | does man have a web api with good search |
| 03:03.00 | awc737 | zophy what about systemd? |
| 03:03.05 | mengesb | http://manpages.debian.org/cgi-bin/man.cgi |
| 03:04.48 | mengesb | now if someone can tell me wtf is going on with netback and xen net common regarding windows hvms dropping my bridging mtu from 9000 to 1500 ... i'd thank you with a case of beer! |
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| 03:17.41 | awc737 | anybody heard about steamos? |
| 03:18.03 | awc737 | i was curious if it has any less features than debian wheezy which is based on |
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| 03:18.40 | mengesb | steamos is just specialized steam; so it is not comparable |
| 03:19.46 | awc737 | it looks like debian though http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=steamos |
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| 03:25.48 | mo1991 | sdf |
| 03:26.39 | cafuego | awc737: It'll be a a debian based with a bunch of stuff stripped out and a bunch of other stuff added. |
| 03:26.59 | awc737 | ah, I don't like the stuff stripped out |
| 03:27.28 | cafuego | Well it's supposed to be lean so steam runs fastest eh. |
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| 03:29.22 | awc737 | I see. I'm glad it's debian based. I am having hell with Jessie and AMD drivers so thought it was worth a shot |
| 03:29.32 | awc737 | but I do too much other stuff, like development, to risk it being stripped |
| 03:30.23 | awc737 | on the plus side, being Deb based, we shouldn't have to worry about nvidia / amd drivers too much in the future |
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| 03:55.06 | zard0z | got an issue if someone can help? |
| 03:55.52 | zard0z | I had the gui login working just fine. I shut down for a bit and returned to it only booting into command line |
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| 03:58.50 | henesy | just need to reset the runtime or reconfigure the graphics manager or something |
| 03:58.53 | henesy | http://www.debianadmin.com/howto-boot-debian-in-text-mode-instead-of-graphical-mode-gui.html |
| 03:59.35 | henesy | So with a GPT I am limited to 4 "primary" or is it "bootable" partitions? I recently had to repair my EFI on this computer due to adding a bootable partition, but I have 7 partitions as it stands. Would adding another partition and just not adding a bootloader/boot flag to the partition break it again, or would the problem arise again due to some other weird factor I'm missing? |
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| 04:00.11 | zard0z | i dont need to boot into text, im already there |
| 04:00.16 | zard0z | I need to boot into GUI |
| 04:00.34 | zard0z | I tried using aptitude I believe, and installing gnome but it didnt seem to fix anything |
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| 04:15.45 | pol43 | A doubt , each package is a debian repository in git ? |
| 04:16.21 | z4rd0z | any ideas? |
| 04:16.27 | z4rd0z | other than formatting |
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| 04:18.33 | pol43 | help pleas |
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| 04:25.30 | tekkbuzz | Zarthus: use run level 3 for a text console login and run level 5 for a graphical login. |
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| 04:26.28 | tekkbuzz | oops, I meant z4rd0z |
| 04:27.24 | tekkbuzz | http://www.debianadmin.com/debian-and-ubuntu-linux-run-levels.html |
| 04:28.30 | z4rd0z | can you explain that to a new user? |
| 04:28.39 | z4rd0z | im still new-ish to linux |
| 04:28.54 | tekkbuzz | try reading the link I sent you. |
| 04:29.41 | z4rd0z | one sec |
| 04:32.10 | tekkbuzz | or try this one: https://wiki.debian.org/RunLevel |
| 04:33.48 | z4rd0z | testing current run level returns "too many arguments" |
| 04:33.59 | z4rd0z | I tried Xorg and the screen flashed and went blank and now is unresponsive |
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| 04:37.11 | z4rd0z | trying recovery mode now |
| 04:38.56 | z4rd0z | going to have to reformat |
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| 04:48.33 | jpinx | I'm using netwrok manager and connecting by wifi to a hotspot on an android phone, which in turn is connected to a mobile-providers isp. I'm having issues with it resolving dns and when I look at resolv.conf it tell me that it's using the android device for dns. Can I change that to something more useful - maybe 8.8.8.8 without breaking something ? |
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| 04:55.15 | awc737 | hey |
| 04:55.56 | rozie | jpinx: yes, you can use own DNS with most systems. take a look on advanced settings |
| 04:56.27 | awc737 | if I dd /if=debian8.iso onto a USB, should it boot on a Macbook? |
| 04:56.40 | rozie | don't use NM so won't tell exact place |
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| 05:00.10 | jpinx | rozie: thanks - I'm now chasing down how to change DNS servers in Android as well ;) |
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| 05:06.12 | cafuego | awc737: does the macbook see the usb stick as bootable drive that you can select? |
| 05:06.31 | awc737 | still building the usb |
| 05:06.48 | awc737 | its a 2010 before that refi I think |
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| 05:16.16 | z4rd0z | I reformatted and reinstalled |
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| 05:16.20 | z4rd0z | it never gave me the option to setup a user so I have no idea how to login |
| 05:16.25 | z4rd0z | I tried root:toor |
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| 05:30.39 | mms_ | hi I have redhat linux and want to connect to Active Directory in order to verify user/password posted to cgi script against AD. please tell me what package I need to install on redhat to do it. do we have some client to verify this user/password. AD host/port/admindn/password I have. |
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| 05:31.25 | tozen | Hi all! Debian netinst no sound on ASUS K53E. So how I understood the alsa-utils is need to be installed. I'm right? thx |
| 05:31.26 | mms_ | basically any one used ldap can guide on if some ldap client utility I can use to do it from command line and then I can do it from cgi script uisng python |
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| 05:40.04 | akaDaddy | i have a bluetooth earpiece that i use for my phone it can also connec to the bluetooth on my computer but only profile option it gives me is telephony is there any way to add high fidelity so i can use it like stereo heapdphones |
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| 06:18.33 | Lolocafera | I think I'm about to do something a bit... acrobatic |
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| 06:20.22 | Lolocafera | I need to install a kernel image from backports, on a computer that doesn't have an internet access (precisely *because* it doesn't have an internet access - its Ethernet isn't supported by Wheezy). |
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| 06:22.54 | Lolocafera | when I try to install linux-image-3.14-0.bpo.2-686-pae, I'm told it breaks initramfs-tools. I'm also told that it can be worked around with the --auto-deconfigure option |
| 06:23.07 | Lolocafera | I'd like to know what I'm risking |
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| 06:27.32 | Lolocafera | okay, so I have to install initramfs-tools from backports too... transmitting packages through a USB key is tedious. |
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| 06:30.48 | borkenpipe | I have a question about running debian under qemu-mipsel. From what I understand I can't simply just "boot" the mipsel installation iso nor just boot an installed debian system. I had luck following this site: http://www.stderr.nl/Blog/Software/Debian/SqueezeOnMips.html |
| 06:31.07 | borkenpipe | just trying to understand why, if anyone can field that question |
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| 06:52.31 | gribouille | hi |
| 06:53.11 | gribouille | I have a problem with the veromix plasma widget |
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| 06:57.22 | Eduard_Munteanu | Is there a way to debootstrap without essentials? I want to generate an initramfs-like thing, very minimal, without stuff like nano or systemd. |
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| 07:06.13 | dooglus | 'uptime' is showing a load average in the billions. any idea why? |
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| 07:07.08 | dooglus | /proc/loadavg says "4265136375.61 4015190745.99 3725392230.25 4294967298/956 4780" |
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| 07:08.42 | colo-work | dooglus, nice :D |
| 07:08.49 | colo-work | are you dealing with a virtualization guest? |
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| 07:10.05 | narbeh | dooglus: flush it |
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| 07:13.17 | dooglus | no virtualisation |
| 07:13.19 | dooglus | flush? |
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| 07:19.14 | mms_ | I installed openldap-clients and have ldapsearch and such utilities installed. I want to validate user/password given to me via http post against ldap. ldapsearch does not return me password |
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| 07:20.17 | jolt | mms_: It does not return a password, it returns success of failure when try to bind/authenticate |
| 07:20.26 | civillian | mms_: for active directory? |
| 07:20.44 | Phyliares | mms_: ldapsearch doesn't return passwd for anonymous request by default |
| 07:20.51 | dooglus | "top - 00:20:43 up 4 days, 6:50, 4 users, load average: 3943585382.32, 3785863137.24, 3680642034.68 |
| 07:21.07 | Phyliares | dooglus: iotop? |
| 07:21.13 | dooglus | " but "%Cpu(s): 7.8 us, 1.7 sy, 0.2 ni, 90.1 id, 0.0 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.1 si, 0.0 st" - 90% idle, but billions of load |
| 07:21.14 | civillian | dooglus: how many processes are running? |
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| 07:21.34 | dooglus | ps -ef | wc -l => 317 |
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| 07:21.53 | dooglus | installing iotop |
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| 07:22.23 | civillian | dooglus: sounds like a bug, but ive never heard of that. 2^32 is just over 4 billion though, could be some kind of wrap around bug |
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| 07:22.45 | dooglus | ... can't install iotop - DNS isn't working |
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| 07:23.29 | civillian | Phyliares: it says 0.0 wa so I'm guessing iotop will show similar |
| 07:23.56 | jelly-home | dooglus: that looks like a bug, inspect dmesg or /var/log/kern.log for funny stuff |
| 07:23.59 | civillian | dooglus: is this a new kernel? |
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| 07:25.45 | dooglus | nothing in dmesg since I removed a USB stick hours ago |
| 07:26.19 | dooglus | oh poop - this is ubuntu! |
| 07:26.26 | dooglus | "Linux chris 3.13.0-35-generic #62-Ubuntu SMP Fri Aug 15 01:58:42 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux" |
| 07:26.41 | jelly-home | acts surprised |
| 07:26.42 | Phyliares | dooglus: that's why it's buggy |
| 07:27.08 | dooglus | yeah |
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| 07:27.17 | Phyliares | ubuntu has debian bugs + ubuntu bugs... |
| 07:27.53 | dooglus | I heard ubuntu doesn't contribute their bugs upstream |
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| 07:28.17 | cafuego | you wouldn't want that anyway, just fixes |
| 07:28.29 | Phyliares | spend 2days to figure out why a computer hangs on boot after config pam-ldap => Ubuntu |
| 07:28.43 | jelly-home | Phyliares, dooglus: this isn't the place to discuss other distro's policies, move on |
| 07:28.55 | Phyliares | jelly-home: relax... ok |
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| 07:34.55 | d0x | Any ideas how to get a virtual wifi adapter? I have an application that provides some services if it detects an wifi adapter? |
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| 07:36.19 | heraclitus | Anyone here ever get bluetooth working on the HP 4525s with linux? |
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| 07:42.33 | gribouille | when I increase the volume with a media player such as vlc or mplayer, the system volume gets increased too! |
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| 07:43.24 | TomyWork | is there any release date for jessie yet? |
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| 07:44.00 | TomyWork | i've only found 2 freeze stages on 2014-11-05 and 2015-02-05 |
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| 07:48.35 | jelly-home | TomyWork: debian does not have set release dates, it'll release When It's Ready |
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| 07:51.20 | TomyWork | any heuristics? :) |
| 07:52.46 | jelly-home | !jessie pool 1 |
| 07:52.46 | dpkg | ! jellÿ=2016-01-01 gsimmons=2015-08-27 peterrooney=2014-11-11 babÄ«len=2015-05-23 themÃll=2015-06-23 abrötman=2015-07-23 |
| 07:53.07 | jelly-home | !jessie bet |
| 07:53.07 | dpkg | To add a bet to the <jessie pool>, /msg dpkg jessie pool 1 =~ s/!/! yournick=yyyy-mm-dd/ and when "jessie pool 1" is full, create "jessie pool 2" and update this factoid. |
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| 07:55.57 | evanton | for some reason setxkbmap is waiting for input instead of executing, it never behaved like that before. Any hints? it's a Debian 7 wheezy box |
| 07:55.58 | jelly-home | TomyWork: hope that answers your question |
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| 07:57.57 | user0007 | Hello all |
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| 07:59.18 | fev3r11 | welcome user0007 |
| 07:59.37 | Disconsented | One to many 0's |
| 07:59.50 | fev3r11 | yeah big 0 |
| 07:59.52 | fev3r11 | :P |
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| 08:03.33 | user0007 | so what if it has 0s? |
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| 08:06.19 | TomyWork | jelly-home well peter rooney is obviously wrong :) |
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| 08:46.17 | lulz0r | Hey guys uhm... I thought I solved this problem last time, but apparently not. My /etc/resolv.conf gets overwritten every couple of hours or so, and I don't know why. The problem is I want some custom DNS Servers, but those entries get deleted every time. How do I make debian not troll me by overwriting that file every time? :D |
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| 08:47.32 | jelly | lulz0r: read about /msg dpkg dns override |
| 08:48.26 | ferni | chattr +i /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 09:03.53 | lulz0r | ferni: I think I got it now, edited the /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf, I hope it works for ever this time.^^ At least I learned today you can upgrade SSH over SSH without restarting the SSH connection... however that works. Magic. |
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| 09:23.30 | nunsploit | initramfs-tools is giving me cp: cannot stat '/lib/live/boot' errors. How do I reconfigure it as apt would have? |
| 09:24.24 | nunsploit | update-initramfs: failed for /boot/initrd.img-[kernel] |
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| 09:27.32 | jelly | nunsploit: which debian release is this, and can you show the complete, actual output? |
| 09:27.36 | jelly | !paste |
| 09:27.36 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 09:29.03 | nunsploit | You got me, it's not Debian. Sid repos but I'm not allowed into debian-next without allow |
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| 09:33.20 | no_gravity | Good Morning! I have a machine where nc has no -l option. Whats that? Old netcat? Different syntax? What can I do to listen on a port and see what comes in? |
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| 09:34.37 | petn-randall | no_gravity: Maybe it's the busybox version? Which release are you running? |
| 09:34.54 | no_gravity | petn-randall: how do i check? |
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| 09:38.08 | petn-randall | no_gravity: Your release? In /etc/apt/sources.list. For the other check 'ls -al /bin/nc', it should be a symlink to /etc/alternatives/nc. Check where that symlink points to. |
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| 09:38.50 | no_gravity | oh, its an ubuntu box. now you guys hate me. |
| 09:39.18 | jelly | our hate does not last for long |
| 09:39.51 | jelly | ,whatprovides netcat |
| 09:40.07 | judd | Package netcat in wheezy/i386 is provided by: netcat-traditional, netcat-openbsd. netcat is also a real package. |
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| 09:40.38 | jelly | no_gravity: ^^ these three all have slightly different syntaxes |
| 09:40.45 | jelly | and featureses |
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| 09:42.40 | no_gravity | man, i got it working! |
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| 10:16.15 | Humanoid | I'm trying to install debian on a laptop that quickly overheats and shuts off. My idea is to modify the netinst iso by adding the necessary cpufreq modules, so after I boot into the installer, I can quickly go into the console, load the modules and change the frequency and then I can continue the installation process. Does that seem like a good plan? |
| 10:17.06 | JarpseB | Humanoid: or just clean the laptop, haha. |
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| 10:18.33 | Humanoid | JarpseB: Unfortunately, that's already been done as best as I can. |
| 10:18.51 | JarpseB | hmm. : |
| 10:18.58 | JarpseB | does it crash when istalling normally? |
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| 10:20.27 | Humanoid | It will shut off before installation is complete. Once I get to the installer menu, I have about 1 or 2 minutes before it shuts off. |
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| 10:20.54 | themill | Humanoid: the installer on the live images isn't as good as the installer on the proper installer images, but at least you get to fiddle with your environment first. |
| 10:20.55 | JarpseB | hmm. :( |
| 10:21.05 | themill | I don't know that I'd ever trust that machine, however... |
| 10:21.20 | JarpseB | is it really the heat? |
| 10:21.37 | Humanoid | Yeah, it's definitely the heat. |
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| 10:32.24 | Humanoid | The netinst seems to be using this kernel: linux-image-3.2.0-4-686-pae but I'm having trouble finding the compiled cpufreq module for it. |
| 10:32.47 | xhc_[slovakia] | hello.. how to run an application in different locale but not from terminal? in terminal it runs I want it from menu for example |
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| 10:35.32 | Humanoid | Oh, I just noticed the cpufreq module is in the linux-image package itself. I will try to add it to the initrd. |
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| 10:38.24 | crecca | Is there a way to accept gnu fdl documentation with perhaps sources.list (or any other way), but reject all the other non-free packages? |
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| 10:40.47 | trewas | crecca: not really, they are in the same "non-free" category as real non-free stuff |
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| 10:41.19 | themill | crecca: the packages normally match the name *-doc so you could probably contrive some pinning to permit them |
| 10:42.14 | crecca | themill: Right! The pinning, thank you. Can I pin also by tag? |
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| 10:42.45 | themill | No, only things that you see in the output of "apt-cache policy package" or "apt-cache policy" |
| 10:43.54 | crecca | I can see on the package webpage: `Tags: ... Made Of: Documentation in info format'. If I could somehow use that... |
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| 10:56.30 | dagon_ | Hey guys. I just installed debian with openbox and placed tint2 & in /etc/xdg/autostart and in .config/openbox/autostart |
| 10:56.55 | dagon_ | after xdg-screensaver is disabled tint2 disappears |
| 10:57.23 | dagon_ | what have I done wrong? |
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| 11:03.14 | colo-work | on one of our wheezy hosts: |
| 11:03.14 | colo-work | WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! |
| 11:03.15 | colo-work | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:03.26 | colo-work | what's afoot there? has an archive signing key changed? |
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| 11:11.43 | themill | colo-work: more likely you just need to run apt-get update again |
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| 11:16.09 | colo-work | hm, our approx installation apparently had garbled signatures cached... |
| 11:16.22 | colo-work | a pity apt-cacher-ng and friends don't work better :/ |
| 11:18.38 | themill | I only have problems with acng when the mirror it is facing is being stupid |
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| 11:34.38 | grandie | hi, have a drive with two different "xfce" and "kde" desktops, so i can switch them by logging out and then back in, my problem is that my sound system is non-responsive, therefore how can i determine what is keeping me from having any sound come out, any and all ideas are appreciated |
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| 11:37.10 | necronomicon | did you check to see if the sound was muted first? because i had that issue |
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| 11:40.57 | Twinkletoes | Does anybody here use csf/lfd and woudl you knwo why even with ports 53 open for incoming/outing on tcp4 and tcp6, I still get errors resolving DNS ? |
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| 11:44.43 | jelly | Twinkletoes: I'm not sure anyone even know what CSF/LFD is |
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| 11:45.02 | Twinkletoes | jelly: ConfigServer Serutiy & Fiewall |
| 11:45.08 | omarek | Hi, I have problem setting up correct time on a NAS device (which has a debian-derivative firmware). I've tried date --set using the format on wiki.debian.org/DateTime, it seemed to work but today I see the time is off by several hours again. |
| 11:45.09 | Twinkletoes | (excuse the typos) |
| 11:46.06 | omarek | Any ideas ? I also installed ntp and added the lines about pool servers - when will that take effect ? I also used tzselect and chose Europe/Warsaw. |
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| 11:50.47 | grandie | necronomicon, yes, on the mixers i found |
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| 11:56.39 | grandie | is it possible to install one sound mixer and have it take charge of both desktop environments |
| 11:57.15 | dagon_ | nvm my previous question. Now I want to enable multitouch, any ideas? I can only find old guides on the internets |
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| 11:58.55 | iveevue | Why does Debian use GNOME by default ? |
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| 11:59.06 | towo` | why not? |
| 11:59.10 | necronomicon | KDE master race |
| 11:59.14 | iveevue | KDE++ |
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| 11:59.16 | petn-randall | iveevue: You can pick any DE you want. |
| 11:59.32 | iveevue | petn-randall, I know. I'm asking why GNOME is default, rather than KDE for example? |
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| 11:59.51 | TomyWork | how do i install a headless wheezy if I dont have internet on the box I'm installing it to |
| 11:59.53 | petn-randall | iveevue: By *default* it doesn't install any DE, you have to pick it. |
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| 12:00.54 | petn-randall | TomyWork: You can download the complete DVDs (or even blurays) for offline consumption. |
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| 12:01.36 | Eduard_Munteanu | Is there some command nowadays that can verify the signature of a .deb? |
| 12:02.18 | petn-randall | Eduard_Munteanu: There are no signatures on a single debs, it's on a repo that contains them. |
| 12:03.33 | TomyWork | petn-randall hmm... i think i'll pass and tell them to get internet :) |
| 12:03.37 | TomyWork | sounds huge |
| 12:03.38 | Eduard_Munteanu | petn-randall, AFAIU, the .dsc is the signature. If I have both, can I check the .deb is properly signed with the .dsc and furthermore the key used to make the .dsc is trusted by apt? |
| 12:04.03 | TomyWork | grabs netinst |
| 12:05.36 | petn-randall | TomyWork: I did an offline installation in a nuclear power plant once. No internet, works like a charm. |
| 12:06.04 | petn-randall | Eduard_Munteanu: .dsc is metadata for the *source* package, which is unrelated to a .deb. |
| 12:06.08 | Eduard_Munteanu | Must be the charm quarks flying around. :P |
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| 12:06.21 | Eduard_Munteanu | Er, my bad then. |
| 12:06.33 | petn-randall | Eduard_Munteanu: Let me ask the other way around: What are you specifically doing and what are you trying to achieve? |
| 12:06.40 | TomyWork | petn-randall well this is no power plant :) |
| 12:07.07 | Eduard_Munteanu | petn-randall, I'm trying to get hold of a .deb and make sure it's authentic. |
| 12:07.51 | Eduard_Munteanu | Oh, wait... hm... 'apt-cache show <package>' provides checksums. |
| 12:07.59 | petn-randall | TomyWork: AMD64 is only three DVDs, so it's manageable. It's easier to upgrade and install stuff with working internet connection, though. |
| 12:08.32 | petn-randall | Eduard_Munteanu: apt already does that for you, where is the .deb from? |
| 12:08.34 | TomyWork | petn-randall yeah |
| 12:09.04 | TomyWork | one thing though, what about that validation bug in apt? is that relevant? |
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| 12:09.18 | petn-randall | TomyWork: Not for binary packages, no. |
| 12:09.26 | Eduard_Munteanu | petn-randall, from Debian mirrors or local apt cache (the latter contains possibly-unchecked packages AFAIK) |
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| 12:09.59 | Eduard_Munteanu | (because apt downloads, then checks at install time, IIRC) |
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| 12:10.54 | Phyliares | Someone help me to choose the right place to store scripts at user logon? The idea is to reproduce samba netlogon for linux client, mount shares, etc... |
| 12:10.54 | andry | anyone knows which type of command substitution in bash is the newer? `echo bla` or $(echo bla) |
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| 12:13.11 | Phyliares | andry: $() is newer, see man bash |
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| 12:13.34 | petn-randall | Eduard_Munteanu: Check the DSA to the apt bug, it only failed to validate things in specific circumstances. |
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| 12:14.21 | petn-randall | Eduard_Munteanu: apt checks it after download, 'apt-get download foo' will also validate your download. |
| 12:14.41 | Eduard_Munteanu | Ah, I see. |
| 12:14.44 | Eduard_Munteanu | Thanks. |
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| 12:15.09 | petn-randall | Eduard_Munteanu: If you're paranoid, install the apt update, run 'apt-get clean' and then install any other updates. |
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| 12:16.34 | Eduard_Munteanu | Phyliares, you might want to check out pam_namespace |
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| 12:16.59 | helpcrypto | Hi |
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| 12:17.22 | TomyWork | petn-randall https://www.debian.org/security/2014/dsa-3025 https://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2014/msg00219.html these |
| 12:17.37 | helpcrypto | on my script, im using $(lsb_release -sr) to get the Debian version im running and check if its <6 (to show "unsupported") |
| 12:17.50 | helpcrypto | but jessie is not showing 8.0 but "jessie" |
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| 12:18.24 | TomyWork | basically I'd like apt >= 0.9.7.9+deb7u5 in my netinst image :) |
| 12:18.25 | helpcrypto | is there any other way to get version as number? |
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| 12:18.35 | Phyliares | Eduard_Munteanu: Thanks I will check that pam module |
| 12:18.40 | petn-randall | TomyWork: yes |
| 12:18.52 | TomyWork | the image is built daily? |
| 12:18.52 | andry | /etc/debian_version holds the release number |
| 12:19.35 | Eduard_Munteanu | Phyliares, otherwise, there are .xinitrc, .xsession and .{bash_,}profile |
| 12:19.36 | petn-randall | helpcrypto: Why not build a package and just put proper dependencies in place? |
| 12:19.47 | andry | [[ $(cat /etc/debian_version) =~ "8" && $(cat /etc/issue) =~ "Debian" ]] && echo 'yep, this is debian 8' ... :P |
| 12:19.48 | helpcrypto | andry: false, it also says jessie |
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| 12:19.57 | andry | strange |
| 12:20.22 | petn-randall | useless use of cat :) |
| 12:20.33 | Eduard_Munteanu | Phyliares, but the PAM module lets you give users their own view of, say, /mnt |
| 12:20.34 | Phyliares | Eduard_Munteanu: yes I was going to put that is /etc/profile, globally. But it seems dirty |
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| 12:21.12 | helpcrypto | petn-randall: my script is run to get an installer from web, i want to be sure which distro/version is running |
| 12:21.23 | helpcrypto | only Deb>=6 and Ubuntu>=12 |
| 12:21.33 | mms_ | hi guys I have html cgi question probably some one here can help |
| 12:21.42 | Phyliares | Eduard_Munteanu: I see, didn't know "polyinstantiation" very interesting |
| 12:21.51 | jelly | helpcrypto: it will say "8" near the release |
| 12:21.59 | helpcrypto | jelly: ok |
| 12:22.07 | helpcrypto | in the meantime "testing". |
| 12:22.20 | Eduard_Munteanu | Phyliares, it's used by Fedora's sandbox -X (the SELinux thing) to give each user their own /tmp, for example. |
| 12:22.37 | petn-randall | mms_: How is this related to Debian? |
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| 12:23.12 | mms_ | petn-randall: I know thing is I am unable to get help from other channels so thought guys here can help |
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| 12:24.16 | andry | petn-randall i dont think it is a useless use .. i dont cat und grep or sth |
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| 12:28.40 | priuon | Hello. I want to set a undefined TimeZone (i.e. "UTC+0354") on my xubuntu installation. I found /etc/localtime as TZif2 but don't know how to read/edit the content. |
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| 12:30.37 | andry | hm .. undefinied timezone? |
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| 12:31.06 | priuon | yeah. well, a offset to UTC. |
| 12:31.34 | priuon | i.e. UTC+0354. |
| 12:31.54 | andry | isnt /etc/timezone the file you are searching for? :o or try "dpkg-reconfigure tzdata" to select a new timezone |
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| 12:32.34 | priuon | andry: yeah the file might be the right one but I have no clue how to make the change I desire |
| 12:32.46 | petn-randall | priuon: Ubuntu is not supported here for a number of technical and social reasons. Please ask in #ubuntu. |
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| 12:34.25 | priuon | petn-randall. I asked there and didn't get an answer |
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| 12:35.31 | andry | im not sure what happens if you use "echo 'UTC+123' > /etc/timezone" and then run "dpkg-reconfigure -f noninteractive tzdata" :D never tried it with an invalid timezone |
| 12:35.37 | andry | guess it just fails |
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| 12:36.42 | petn-randall | !ubuntu |
| 12:36.42 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
| 12:37.08 | petn-randall | priuon: There's nothing we can do about it if your distro's support channel is clueless, we don't know how Ubuntu works. |
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| 12:38.09 | priuon | petn-randall, dpkg: My guess was that ubuntu wouldn't touch these internals as they are implemented with debian |
| 12:38.59 | priuon | andry: can I pm you? I don't want people to get mad about nothing. |
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| 12:39.46 | petn-randall | priuon: dpkg is a bot :). If andry wants to help you in #ubuntu or in a query, it's fine, but please keep it off of this channel. |
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| 12:45.33 | flyakite | what is the best way to allow access to /var/www in order to upload new web pages via scp? |
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| 12:47.19 | TomyWork | I want to inspect the packages present on a live cd. My idea was to boot the live image on it and go from there, but the "rescue system" seems to lack even dpkg. can i somehow run a live system off the netinst image? is there a better way to do this? |
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| 12:48.59 | andry | flyakite, i recommend to just use opensshs internal-sftp setting with chroot set |
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| 12:49.51 | jelly | TomyWork: well, is your bootable a rescue system or a debian(-based) live cd? |
| 12:50.51 | jelly | TomyWork: why do you need to boot netinst at all if the image you want to inspect is a live cd? |
| 12:51.12 | TomyWork | because i thought it would be a strange format |
| 12:51.29 | TomyWork | looks like it's 0.9.7.9+deb7u2 |
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| 12:51.34 | TomyWork | which is vulnerable |
| 12:52.13 | flyakite | andry: thanks. i'll check that out. |
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| 12:55.10 | themill | TomyWork: the rescue system in the installer is not a live system. It's just there to be able to boot and then chroot. If you want a live image, then the debian-live images are there |
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| 13:03.56 | TomyWork | anyway, how do i create a debian wheezy netinst image with up-to-date packages? |
| 13:04.09 | themill | What are you really trying to do? |
| 13:04.13 | TomyWork | some of the recent security bulletins worry me |
| 13:04.56 | TomyWork | 4 vulnerabilities in apt. if that's what the installer uses to install packages, that's bad |
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| 13:05.34 | themill | A new installer image will be cut in about 3 weeks anyway. You could always use a recent jessie installer to install wheezy. |
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| 13:06.06 | synmuffin | hey all so i've install debian on this ibm p5 system and i got it installed and able to boot however now it gets to this: INIT: no more processes left in this runlevel and just stits there |
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| 13:06.40 | andry | is there any reason to not use [[ ]] for any (!) conditional testing in bash? |
| 13:06.44 | jelly | TomyWork: are you sure the installer uses _any_ of the vulrerable options |
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| 13:11.38 | themill | jelly: CVE-2014-6273 potentially... I'd have to look at a diff to see what was actually changed. |
| 13:11.47 | synmuffin | example: http://pixldrop.com/view/9HOPsflz.png |
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| 13:20.18 | Z1T1TTT | Hi I want the original thunderbird on my debian. i extracted the downloaded file and I can run thunderbird from a terminal. but how to i add it to the start-panel ? |
| 13:20.41 | crecca | why do you want to run original thunderbird? |
| 13:21.02 | Z1T1TTT | crecca: bcz i want tray feature. and i dont like trayall |
| 13:21.16 | Z1T1TTT | thunderbird orignal has a tray addon |
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| 13:21.33 | crecca | Z1T1TTT: I see |
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| 13:22.05 | crecca | Z1T1TTT: start-panel? You mean button to the gnome panel? |
| 13:22.18 | TomyWork | jelly i'd rather be safe than negligent |
| 13:22.48 | crecca | Z1T1TTT: I don't use gnome anymore, but if I remember correctly, you can alt+left-click, or super+alt+left-click on the panel |
| 13:22.50 | Z1T1TTT | crecca: yes i want to start it with a mouse click from the menu |
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| 13:23.36 | crecca | Z1T1TTT: for the menu there is menu in settings dialog for that |
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| 13:23.53 | crecca | Z1T1TTT: I think |
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| 13:24.32 | crecca | I have a problem with connecting to keyserver with gnupg through http proxy |
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| 13:24.56 | crecca | I want to connect to some port on localhost, and I can do that only as a root user, but not as a normal user |
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| 13:25.43 | crecca | it just says connection refused when I run gpg as a normal user |
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| 13:29.03 | crecca | also it says `hostname was not found in DNS cache' |
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| 13:32.13 | xryz | crecca can u paste info from: ls -l /etc/hotplug/usb/gnupg* |
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| 13:33.20 | crecca | xryz: ls: cannot access /etc/hotplug: No such file or directory |
| 13:33.54 | xryz | no idea then really |
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| 13:36.33 | TomyWork | is there a way to do the installation via ssh or something? |
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| 13:36.48 | TomyWork | so i dont have to do it via the crummy vm monitor |
| 13:36.54 | crecca | xryz: omg I'm so reckless, `sudo gpg' user doesn't use the same gpg.conf |
| 13:37.14 | crecca | so scratch that, I have a different problem entirely |
| 13:37.18 | xryz | t.t |
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| 13:41.25 | TomyWork | oooh, i found this: http://blog.remoteresponder.net/2011/03/23/debian-squeeze-60-installation-over-ssh/ |
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| 13:44.56 | awm | çàõîäè íå ïîæàëååøü òóò êðóòî http://cibq.alkerz.ru/84247/2963685/ |
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| 13:46.33 | karlpinc | TomyWork: You might want to look at the install guide. (Rather than trusting some random blog post on the internet.) Although really, there's not much to go wrong. You choose the option and it works. |
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| 13:47.39 | TomyWork | karlpinc well the non-obvious part (loading the network-console component) is described |
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| 13:57.12 | iAdam1n | Has something changed or something? I'm getting this: W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.ch.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/non-free/binary-i386/Packages 406 Not Acceptable |
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| 13:57.15 | iAdam1n | s |
| 13:57.27 | iAdam1n | oops, a few others also give me that |
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| 14:00.19 | karlpinc | TomyWork: The real secret is to go into expert mode. |
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| 14:01.05 | r3n1c0n | is away: BRB fixing some relaxsation #! :D |
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| 14:01.59 | iAdam1n | been getting that error for 6hrs |
| 14:02.04 | iAdam1n | was working yesterday |
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| 14:03.05 | Phyliares | iAdam1n: Maybe that mirror is buggy, you should try to switch to another |
| 14:03.17 | jelly | iAdam1n: you can always try changing to a different mirror, eg. use http://http.debian.net in place of http://ftp.ch.debian.org |
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| 14:03.30 | TomyWork | karlpinc nah, that's no secret |
| 14:03.32 | iAdam1n | how? Can't remember how to do that |
| 14:03.47 | jelly | iAdam1n: search and replace in /etc/apt/sources.list file |
| 14:03.51 | TomyWork | i cant connect to my vm, btw :/ |
| 14:04.12 | TomyWork | and i cant look at it to determine what part is at fault |
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| 14:04.58 | TomyWork | the installer told me the ip, that ip is plausible, but ssh times out |
| 14:05.15 | iAdam1n | jelly: I have these |
| 14:05.16 | iAdam1n | deb http://ftp.ch.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free |
| 14:05.16 | iAdam1n | deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free |
| 14:05.16 | iAdam1n | deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib non-free |
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| 14:05.21 | andry | :D |
| 14:05.25 | iAdam1n | lol flood, three lines |
| 14:05.29 | TomyWork | good bot |
| 14:05.33 | iAdam1n | that's no flood but ok |
| 14:05.35 | andry | just change http://bla/debian/ to sth like http://ftp2.de.debian.org/debian |
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| 14:05.46 | TomyWork | that's not ok but flood |
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| 14:06.00 | jelly | iAdam1n: replace ftp.ch.debian.org with http.debian.net, and do an aptitude update again |
| 14:06.29 | iAdam1n | jelly: ok but then I would have two with the same line as I have that too, shall I just delete the ftp.ch.debian.org line? |
| 14:06.48 | jelly | iAdam1n: read carefully -- they would NOT be the same |
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| 14:07.07 | Phyliares | and you can have multiple mirrors |
| 14:07.09 | iAdam1n | deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy-updates main contrib non-free |
| 14:07.15 | iAdam1n | I already have that on line 3 |
| 14:07.30 | Phyliares | wheezy-updates != wheezy |
| 14:07.35 | iAdam1n | Phyliares: I know but I was saying two would be the same |
| 14:07.40 | jelly | iAdam1n: they wouldn't |
| 14:07.43 | iAdam1n | oh |
| 14:08.02 | Xeago | Heya, I'm packaging an upstream tar.gz, github.com/github/backup-utils to be exact. It doesn't provide a make install, should I add that myself? |
| 14:08.04 | iAdam1n | my bad |
| 14:08.16 | andry | i just added http://ftp.ch.debian.org/debian/ .. no problem here |
| 14:08.40 | jelly | Xeago: you don't have to, if make -f debian/rules binary does the right thing |
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| 14:09.44 | iAdam1n | can I delete the backup mirror too as that has the same error? |
| 14:09.47 | Xeago | jelly: ok |
| 14:09.54 | jelly | iAdam1n: what backup mirror? |
| 14:10.00 | iAdam1n | deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian wheezy main contrib non-free |
| 14:10.17 | jelly | pastebin your whole sources.list file, please |
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| 14:11.02 | TomyWork | on virtualbox, should i load the "virtio-modules" installer component? |
| 14:11.14 | TomyWork | or does that serve no purpose? |
| 14:11.19 | Xeago | jelly: I currently have a fairly blank rules, essentially %: \n\t dh $@ |
| 14:11.26 | iAdam1n | http://pastebin.com/4EKzcANp jelly |
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| 14:11.44 | Xeago | that doesn't give what I want obviously, should I add a binary target there? What should it do? |
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| 14:12.56 | jelly | iAdam1n: yes, you may comment out or remove line 15, and change line 23 to http.debian.net as well. |
| 14:13.20 | iAdam1n | ok |
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| 14:14.00 | iAdam1n | that worked, thanks |
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| 14:14.09 | jelly | Xeago: well, you can implement putting files in the right place in there, or in upstream's Makefile, as you wish |
| 14:14.35 | jelly | Xeago: probably better to ask in #debian-mentors over on irc.oftc.net |
| 14:15.16 | Xeago | heh, I can just have my submodule there \o/ |
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| 14:16.10 | Xeago | so if I want the executable foo to be in /usr/bin, I should have /debian/usr/bin/foo in my repository? |
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| 14:19.34 | jelly | Xeago: uh, no, make the rules makefile (or your "upstream" makefile) put the files in the right place |
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| 14:20.33 | jelly | that can be done by implementing "make install" with a DESTDIR= env.var, or some other way |
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| 14:21.33 | jelly | Xeago: I'm completely clueless about the best current practices, so unless someone else jumps in, ask in -mentors (again, not here on Freenode, they're over on OFTC network) |
| 14:21.47 | Xeago | ok |
| 14:21.55 | Xeago | thanks for the help and pointers! |
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| 14:24.10 | synmuffin | ok so I've installed debian on ibm p5 system and the system boots and it's running and I can ssh into the server etc... however when i go the physical terminal i don't get a login screen and i see this: init: Id "co" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes, does it have something to do with the termainl being over serial? |
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| 14:26.10 | valdyn | synmuffin: respawn means the program is terminating. Its always over serial, its a tty, duh |
| 14:26.51 | jelly | synmuffin: did you configure /etc/inittab for a serial console? |
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| 14:27.30 | synmuffin | i did, well i uncommented T0:23:respawn:/sbin/getty -L ttyS0 9600 vt100 |
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| 14:28.12 | runa | heyas :) I've a running ruby program that I'm stracing. if I send a SIGSTOP to it, it will ignore it and continue running. why? how can I stop it? |
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| 14:28.47 | valdyn | !sigkill |
| 14:28.47 | dpkg | sigkill are you sure you want to use kill -9? What's wrong with -15, -2 and -1? See http://partmaps.org/era/unix/award.html#uuk9letter |
| 14:28.56 | jelly | synmuffin: did you reboot or run "init q" after that? |
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| 14:29.05 | valdyn | runa: ^^what dpkg said |
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| 14:31.18 | synmuffin | jelly i didn't reboot but i ran init q |
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| 14:32.20 | jelly | synmuffin: alright then, the basics are covered. Does anything happen if you press enter a couple times on that serial connection? |
| 14:32.35 | synmuffin | nothing it just sits there |
| 14:33.10 | jelly | synmuffin: can you show cat /proc/cmdline |
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| 14:34.17 | jelly | the terminal is configured with correct baud rate since you see something on it, even if it's just that "init: Id "co" respawning too fast: disabled for 5 minutes |
| 14:34.18 | synmuffin | can i pm it to you? |
| 14:34.45 | jelly | better to use the public channel so others can help, but if you absolutely must, ok |
| 14:34.58 | synmuffin | cat /proc/cmdline root=UUID=20d19dab-9408-4576-ac0e-058a4dcfa07e ro |
| 14:35.33 | synmuffin | yah and like when i type hte letters show up etc... i just never get a login or password prompt |
| 14:35.33 | jelly | synmuffin: which debian release is this? |
| 14:35.37 | synmuffin | newest |
| 14:35.46 | jelly | synmuffin: cat /etc/debian_version |
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| 14:36.25 | synmuffin | well 7.6 |
| 14:36.40 | synmuffin | # cat /etc/debian_version |
| 14:36.41 | synmuffin | 7.6 |
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| 14:37.47 | jere_ | My lsusb command says this: http://ideone.com/8DA91m |
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| 14:38.11 | jere_ | My demsg command after detecting usb ends at this: http://ideone.com/QXXcB0 |
| 14:38.33 | jere_ | And finally this is the output of blkid and fdisk -l : http://ideone.com/w8YsQR |
| 14:38.42 | jere_ | I still can't access or mount my usb. |
| 14:38.53 | jere_ | On my Debian machine. What can be the problem here? |
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| 14:39.23 | jelly | synmuffin: dunno, it's weird you have anytihng on that serial at all considering the kernel command line does not have console=ttyS0,9600 |
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| 14:41.22 | synmuffin | its werid! http://pixldrop.com/view/9HOPsflz.png <-- as you can see i get all startup msgs etc.. then just nothing |
| 14:41.27 | jelly | synmuffin: it should not matter, but try appending " console=ttyS0,9600" to GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX= setting in /etc/default/grub, then run update-grub and reboot |
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| 14:41.56 | jelly | synmuffin: does the machine's BIOS have some sort of console redirection to serial? |
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| 14:42.34 | void | hello |
| 14:42.47 | void | someone knows evolutionpencil ? |
| 14:43.10 | synmuffin | my guess would be yes it has no vga ports etc... |
| 14:43.11 | jelly | synmuffin: perhaps that's not ttyS0 at all, and the output is generated via BIOS console redirection |
| 14:43.43 | mtn | !tell void about ask |
| 14:43.58 | jelly | synmuffin: can you pastebin the whole dmesg output, or at least grep ttyS out of it |
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| 14:44.22 | jelly | synmuffin: put it on http://paste.debian.net |
| 14:44.49 | jelly | !pastebinit |
| 14:44.50 | dpkg | pastebinit is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. NOTE: Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" users, you must "pastebinit -b http://paste.debian.net" or configure pastebinit to use something other than pastebin.com. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>. |
| 14:45.27 | synmuffin | jelly: http://paste.debian.net/122805/ |
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| 14:53.53 | jelly | synmuffin: ha -- you said P5 machine, I kind of assumed old pentium and not a PPC64 :-) |
| 14:54.05 | synmuffin | ohhhh |
| 14:54.14 | synmuffin | lol sorry i should have been more specific |
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| 14:56.55 | DESCO | hi, how do i enable gdm3 on boot? gdm doesn't have an [install] section and that's preventing me to start it on boot |
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| 14:57.21 | jelly | synmuffin: I have no idea how console works there, line 65 says "console [hvc0] enabled, bootconsole disabled" so perhaps a getty is supposed to go onto a /dev/hvc0 if that exists |
| 14:57.55 | jelly | !ppc |
| 14:57.55 | dpkg | PowerPC is a <RISC> architecture (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PowerPC). See "Debian for PowerPC" at http://www.debian.org/ports/powerpc . Debian CDs are not (and cannot be made) bootable on Old World PowerMacs. Information on proper partitioning is at http://www.alaska.net/~erbenson/doc/mac-fdisk-basics.txt . See also <macsound>, <yaboot>, <quik>, <bootx>, <ppc64>. #debianppc on irc.oftc.net and irc.freenode.net. |
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| 14:58.43 | synmuffin | Ikk thanks jelly i'll keep poking with it |
| 14:58.45 | jelly | synmuffin: likey the bot says, the (24 total) people in #debianppc might have more clues |
| 14:58.54 | synmuffin | lol |
| 14:59.08 | synmuffin | thanks man |
| 14:59.24 | jelly | good luck |
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| 15:06.17 | halt2 | Hi guys, what's the best way to find out and import 3rd party repos keys ? In this case I'm hunting for the puppet keys, but I'm not sure I understand the concept of how this should work. |
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| 15:06.42 | movic | hi guys, i have problem with my raspberry pi, i cant configure it as wifi access point |
| 15:06.59 | movic | everythign is workin, wifi network is created but after connecting to it |
| 15:07.04 | movic | there is no internet connection |
| 15:07.08 | movic | i'm stuck |
| 15:07.10 | movic | :/ |
| 15:07.31 | movic | I'm using isc-dhcpd-server with hostapd |
| 15:07.37 | movic | everythign seems to be configure properly |
| 15:07.47 | movic | but it's not working. |
| 15:07.54 | halt2 | movic: did you followed any tutorial ? |
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| 15:08.09 | movic | yeah i checked couple of them |
| 15:08.12 | movic | for ex. http://raspberrypihq.com/how-to-turn-a-raspberry-pi-into-a-wifi-router/ |
| 15:08.41 | Phyliares | halt2: apt-key is the command you need, repo key is usually at repository root, what is the url? |
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| 15:09.20 | halt2 | btw the "not working" is not helpful, to be able to help you need to specify what did you tried to debug, which part is wrong etc |
| 15:09.47 | halt2 | Phyliares: http://apt.puppetlabs.com |
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| 15:10.34 | halt2 | you are right there is a key next to it but how I can import that ? http://apt.puppetlabs.com/pubkey.gpg |
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| 15:10.55 | Phyliares | wget http://apt.puppetlabs.com/pubkey.gpg -O- | apt-key add - |
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| 15:11.14 | halt2 | perfect ! Thanks you Sir |
| 15:11.21 | Phyliares | np |
| 15:11.36 | halt2 | I just need to add wget first :) |
| 15:11.48 | halt2 | ( docker image ) |
| 15:12.05 | movic | halt2: sure, i have something like this in syslog for example: dhcpd: DHCPREQUEST for 10.40.21.28 from ac:cf:5c:bc:58:df via wlan0: wrong network. |
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| 15:12.30 | petn-randall | Phyliares, halt2: I'd take a few more steps to actually verify the key, it otherwise undermines the whole point of signing repositories. |
| 15:12.56 | halt2 | petn-randall: like what ? how you can verify that key ? |
| 15:13.19 | halt2 | movic: is the dhcp server listening on wlan0 as well or just eth0 ? |
| 15:13.38 | movic | halt2: yup, on wlan0 |
| 15:13.58 | Phyliares | petn-randall: you are right => https://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt |
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| 15:18.59 | halt2 | petn-randall: Phyliares: Right so just get it and install it is bad, which I'm happy to accept, this is right, I have to read the whole artical to make sure I do not miss something, but It would be nice If i can do it until the image builds :) ( hint how can import that key properly ? ) |
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| 15:22.33 | Phyliares | halt2: you can (throught gpg) check that key has been signed and can be trusted, BUT you can import and add it, since http://apt.puppetlabs.com/ has not been hacked, huh? |
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| 15:23.40 | halt2 | so the import is the same way just before I start to install packages from it I should verify the key with gpg ? |
| 15:23.46 | movic | halt2: ttp://chopapp.com/#sjv0sl2k |
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| 15:25.54 | halt2 | movic: did you rectarted the dhcp server since you reconfigured the listen interface that errorlog tell to me that it does not lisening on the wlan0 can you verifiy it with netstat ? |
| 15:27.15 | petn-randall | Phyliares: Ever heard about MITM? |
| 15:27.36 | Phyliares | petn-randall: oh yes, i'm a sysadmin |
| 15:27.46 | Phyliares | but not too paranoid ;) |
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| 15:28.20 | petn-randall | https://apt.puppetlabs.com/ works fine, take the key from where instead :) |
| 15:28.28 | petn-randall | s/where/there/ |
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| 15:29.40 | movic | halt2: http://pastie.org/9591056 |
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| 15:34.31 | Wulf | Hi |
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| 15:44.56 | petn-randall | Phyliares: Might not be important for other things, but since you trust the repo, and every package from there has a postinst script running as root, you want to probably want to go through the extra hoop of checking the key. And even then you have to blindly trust that they keep their shit together and don't loose the private part of the signing key (this has happened to a few projects before). |
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| 15:52.04 | movic | halt2: any idea? |
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| 15:55.05 | halt2 | movic: sorry was AFK, so I can't see the DHCP on the list |
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| 15:56.02 | Wulf | about that bash security problem, what might possible attack vectory be when the default shell is dash (i.e. not bash) and I'm running php-fastcgi instead of normal cgi? |
| 15:56.42 | Wulf | If I see it right, the attacker must be able to set arbitrary values to environment variables and execute bash |
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| 15:57.35 | petn-randall | Wulf: "that bash security problem" is very vague. Which one are you talking about? And how would using dash change that? |
| 15:57.50 | s7r | I am using a third party repo for which the signing key expired. I tried to upgrade a package from them and got this error. the current package (installed when the key was valid) has not been affected, right? If I modify the key with the new one I can upgrade just fine or it's not the way it goes? |
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| 15:58.09 | Wulf | petn-randall: CVE-2014-6271 / DSA 3032-1 |
| 15:58.14 | Wulf | petn-randall: http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2014/q3/650 |
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| 16:02.47 | petn-randall | Wulf: Interesting. As far as I can see it, it's only a problem if you use actual bash scripts in CGI. If you use php5 or another interpreter, you should be safe. |
| 16:03.37 | petn-randall | s7r: You can just add the new key, packages are only checked upon installation, not constantly. |
| 16:03.42 | Wulf | petn-randall: well, if the php program runs a bash script to do some task, it would execute the code too. But only if the environment variable is set somehow |
| 16:05.39 | s7r | petn-randall: yeah of course since the package was installed when the key was valid. but I was wondering if trying to upgrade a package while the key for repo is expired will only prevent the upgrade to take place or will also alter the existing running package in any wya |
| 16:05.43 | s7r | way* |
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| 16:06.38 | petn-randall | !tias |
| 16:06.38 | dpkg | TIAS is "Try It And See". |
| 16:06.50 | petn-randall | (hint: you only need the new key) |
| 16:07.28 | heurist | s7r: the key must be valid for the package to upgrade, else the system can not verify that the new package (version) is not tampered with |
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| 16:13.44 | movic | halt2: i did nothing, just restarting hostpad and it started working |
| 16:14.03 | movic | halt2: I restarted pi and again its not workign |
| 16:14.07 | movic | halt2: wierd |
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| 16:16.00 | zosky` | is there anyways i can get rid of the debian nginx wrapper ? |
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| 16:16.18 | Wulf | zosky`: what's that? |
| 16:16.49 | zosky` | Wulf, general nginx command is nginx -s signal |
| 16:17.02 | zosky` | in debian it's sudo service nginx -s |
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| 16:17.23 | zosky` | but that's just a wrapper in debian |
| 16:17.26 | zosky` | for nginx |
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| 16:17.41 | zosky` | is there anyways i can get rid of that wrapper ? |
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| 16:18.07 | heurist | zosky`: what are you calling wrapper? sudo or service? neither are wrappers |
| 16:18.17 | zosky` | service |
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| 16:18.45 | zosky` | heurist, in centos, suse and other linux distro nginx -s is used |
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| 16:18.55 | zosky` | that can also be used in debian |
| 16:18.57 | jelly | zosky`: and that doesn't work as root in debian? |
| 16:19.06 | zosky` | hmmmmmmmmmmm.... |
| 16:19.08 | zosky` | nevermind |
| 16:19.16 | heurist | zosky`: have you tried sudo nginx -s signal ? or sudo -i and then just use nginx -s signal as root? |
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| 16:21.09 | crush26 | I am trying to install Chrome on a new Debian 7 system. 320 gigs on HDD, but I am getting an error saying not enough space on disk? |
| 16:21.38 | zosky` | heurist, without the "service" terminals prompts invalid option: "-s" |
| 16:21.53 | jelly | crush26: pastebin the output of "df" command |
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| 16:22.07 | crush26 | jelly: one sec |
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| 16:22.50 | jelly | zosky`: what does "sudo which nginx" say? |
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| 16:23.31 | crush26 | jelly: http://paste.pound-python.org/show/iqVe49VwLn9xRC9YDl3O/ |
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| 16:24.00 | jelly | crush26: you seem to have a / filesystem with a meager 300MB size |
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| 16:25.05 | crush26 | jelly: how is that possible? was it due to an error on my part during Debian 7 install? |
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| 16:25.42 | jelly | crush26: yes and no. You could have avoided it, but the installer leads you to such a setup if you don't know better. |
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| 16:26.09 | crush26 | jelly: anyway to fix it without a reinstall? |
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| 16:26.47 | jelly | crush26: if this is a fresh installation, I'd say wipe the existing linux partitions and reinstall with a decent 20G / and don't use a separate /usr |
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| 16:27.24 | jelly | crush26: gparted livecd may be able to resize things, but I'm not sure that's going to be faster than a reinstallatiojn |
| 16:27.56 | heurist | zosky`: maybe sudo -s nginx -s signal ? read man sudo to see how to run commands with parameters. become root (sudo -i) and then try nginx -s signal on its own to test that. |
| 16:28.03 | crush26 | jelly: yes this is a fresh install. Prob easier to reinstall |
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| 16:28.21 | crush26 | jelly: thanks for the advice |
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| 16:29.01 | jelly | crush26: oh, you can do without a fixed-side separate /tmp as well. In fact, if this is a home machine, I'd say create just swap, a large /, say 30GB, and the rest for /home, nothing else |
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| 16:29.57 | crush26 | jelly: this is a lab machine setup at home. |
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| 16:30.21 | jelly | crush26: lab for what? |
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| 16:30.30 | mtn | crush26: you also don't need a seperate /home. I quit using that years ago. |
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| 16:31.00 | crush26 | jelly: it is a lab decoder for testing streams |
| 16:31.04 | petn-randall | mtn: I use it, it's a matter of taste though. |
| 16:31.17 | jelly | mtn: that's the only one that can be useful with multiboot linuxes |
| 16:31.43 | mtn | petn-randall: indeed, just not necessary |
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| 16:31.51 | jelly | crush26: eh. You may as well just have / and a small swap. |
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| 16:32.36 | crush26 | jelly: I am not sure I know how to do as you are suggesting. Prob be easier for all of us if I just reinstall. I am still a linux nood |
| 16:33.05 | mtn | crush26: use the manual partitioning and you can control exactly how it is setup. |
| 16:33.08 | petn-randall | mtn: It helps if you accidentally fill /home, your database in / doesn't crash hard and corrupt because of that. |
| 16:33.16 | jelly | crush26: yes, reinstall. On partitioning, create a 2GB partition for swap, and a large one as the root filesystem for everything else |
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| 16:33.46 | jelly | petn-randall: you do not accidentally fill /home being root user, tho |
| 16:34.23 | jelly | (if a db corrupts in a disk full situation, I don't have nice words to say about its design) |
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| 16:35.43 | crush26 | jelly: ok I will do that. Thank you |
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| 16:36.05 | petn-randall | jelly: No, but you can have quota on / and not on /home then. Most RDBMSs don't handle disk full situations too well. |
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| 16:41.07 | btcNeverSleeps | Don't know if it's the correct channel to ask... Just did "apt-get update" / "apt-get upgrade" on one of my Debian Wheezy box and CVE-2014-6271 seems to be patched but... |
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| 16:42.09 | btcNeverSleeps | I've got two old Debian servers running Tomcat in standalone (no Apache). They're 5.0.3 / 2.6.32 kernels. How do I patch these? |
| 16:43.00 | centrx | btcNeverSleeps, You mean Debian 5 lenny? |
| 16:43.07 | centrx | btcNeverSleeps, You should upgrade to at least squeeze-lts |
| 16:43.36 | centrx | btcNeverSleeps, Otherwise you should be making manual patches for all sorts of security issues, even if this is the one you noticed |
| 16:43.56 | btcNeverSleeps | centrx: yes, Debian Lenny. And I think my /etc/apt/sources.list is outdated!? |
| 16:44.14 | centrx | btcNeverSleeps, You have an older release which you should upgrade |
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| 16:44.18 | btcNeverSleeps | Can I update Lenny directly to Wheezy? |
| 16:44.31 | btcNeverSleeps | they're not very important boxes, but they're still Internet-facing. |
| 16:44.37 | centrx | Safer to go through squeeze first |
| 16:44.42 | btcNeverSleeps | oh interesting |
| 16:44.42 | centrx | Jumping directly might work |
| 16:44.51 | centrx | !lenny->squeeze |
| 16:44.59 | btcNeverSleeps | I'll go through squeeze first... |
| 16:45.03 | centrx | dpkg, tell btcNeverSleeps about lenny->squeeze |
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| 16:45.32 | Wulf | btcNeverSleeps: grab the old source package, apply the patch, recompile? |
| 16:45.56 | btcNeverSleeps | Wulf: I don't mind upgrading these two servers... They're old and need an update anyway. |
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| 16:46.32 | alech | is there an updated bash package for squeeze available, re CVE-2014-6271? |
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| 16:47.05 | jelly | alech: there will be one in squeeze-lts, wait for your favorite mirror to update |
| 16:47.16 | jelly | dpkg, tell alech about squeeze-lts |
| 16:47.27 | Wulf | alech: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-6271 |
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| 16:47.37 | btcNeverSleeps | what is "squeeze-lts" compared to "squeeze"? (what is the "lts" for?) |
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| 16:48.21 | jelly | btcNeverSleeps: /msg dpkg squeeze-lts |
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| 16:50.01 | alech | thanks |
| 16:50.04 | chrisb | maybe linux terminal server |
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| 16:50.24 | conan^ | Would anybody know which version(s) of bash would be vulnerable in the DSA 3032-1 ? |
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| 16:50.39 | blocky | conan^: came here to ask the same thing |
| 16:50.40 | btcNeverSleeps | oh good news: one of the two boxes I still need to patch is actually running Wheezy (the mobo died 18 months ago or so and I had forgot I did upgrade it) |
| 16:50.45 | jelly | !tracker of doom |
| 16:50.45 | dpkg | The Tracker of Doom is a vulnerability database maintained by the Debian security team, viewable at http://security-tracker.debian.org/ . Ask me about <cve lookup CVE-yyyy-nnnn> to get Debian-specific information on a CVE number. See also http://www.debian.org/security/crossreferences or ask me about <debsecan> http://www.enyo.de/fw/software/debsecan/ |
| 16:51.15 | jelly | conan^: go to http://security-tracker.debian.org/ and input your favorite CVE number |
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| 16:52.48 | conan^ | Thanks jelly |
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| 16:57.05 | btcNeverSleeps | Probably a very silly question but when I see "wheezy 4.2+dfsg-0.1 vulnerable" vs "wheezy (security) 4.2+dfsg-0.1+deb7u1 fixed", what does "deb7u1" mean? |
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| 16:57.42 | somiaj | it is just a debian revision to make the version number greater than the previous |
| 16:57.57 | somiaj | deb7 means debian 7 (wheezy) and u1 means the first security patch for that package. |
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| 16:58.23 | somiaj | You can look in the changelog for the exact changes in the packge with this new debian revision |
| 16:58.48 | Eduard_Munteanu | Is there a way to debootstrap without essentials? I want recursive deps of a specific set of packages, nothing else like nano or other things. |
| 16:59.04 | MV48 | Hi all. So I'm getting the follow err with "Depends: libperl5.14 (>= 5.14.2)" when installing "postgresql-plperl-9.3". I've since upgraded libperl5.18.2 and I still get the same err. Help plz? |
| 16:59.13 | btcNeverSleeps | somiaj: oh super interesting, didn't know that |
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| 16:59.33 | somiaj | Eduard_Munteanu: as far as I know, no, essential packages are labeled that for a reason. |
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| 17:00.16 | centrx | MV48, Apparently that postgresql-plperl-9.3 package depends specifically on libperl5.14, not 5.18 |
| 17:00.20 | Eduard_Munteanu | somiaj, I don't even want a Debian system per se, just some binaries with proper libs in place |
| 17:00.20 | centrx | MV48, Where did you get it from? |
| 17:00.22 | somiaj | Eduard_Munteanu: actually looks like there is an --exclude option you can use and the man page says be very careful doing this. |
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| 17:01.00 | MV48 | centrx: thanks for the response. If that's the case, what's with the (>= 5.14.2)? Also, I got it via apt-get install |
| 17:01.14 | somiaj | Eduard_Munteanu: might also want to look at the --variant option |
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| 17:01.25 | Eduard_Munteanu | somiaj, minbuild isn't minimal enough |
| 17:01.42 | somiaj | Eduard_Munteanu: then you'll have to manually --exclude the other packages you don't want |
| 17:01.43 | centrx | MV48, It must depend on something that 5.14.0 and .1 don't have |
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| 17:01.51 | Eduard_Munteanu | Ugh. |
| 17:02.10 | Eduard_Munteanu | somiaj, I'd have to exclude mostly everything else :) |
| 17:02.31 | Eduard_Munteanu | Perhaps I should be using apt directly somehow? |
| 17:02.37 | MV48 | centrx: dang, that's confusing :). How would I install that specific version... or "downgrade" perl? |
| 17:03.14 | Eduard_Munteanu | Can apt install into a prefix, a-la Gentoo's ROOT=/foo/bar emerge ... ? |
| 17:03.21 | centrx | MV48, Use the Debian package for it that matches the rest of your system |
| 17:03.36 | somiaj | Eduard_Munteanu: well you can use dpkg to --extract a .deb into a paticular root (no configuration is done). Not sure if just copying the few binaries you want like that would work and apt can download the .deb |
| 17:04.09 | MV48 | centrx: "libperl15.14 has no installation candidate" -> should I do an apt-get update/upgrade? |
| 17:04.16 | somiaj | Eduard_Munteanu: you can specify a prefix for dpkg, and I think pass that to dpkg from apt, not sure what you would have to do to set up the database in /var first though if you want to install vs just extract the .deb |
| 17:04.21 | centrx | MV48, Where did you ge tthis postgresql-plperl-9.3 package? |
| 17:05.05 | Eduard_Munteanu | somiaj, I'd expact / want it to use the package database in the host system, not set one up in the alternate root |
| 17:05.13 | Eduard_Munteanu | *expect |
| 17:05.26 | MV48 | centrx: I did it via apt-get install, thinking it was apart of the deb repos. This is a server at my work, perhaps it's another repo that has it |
| 17:05.53 | centrx | MV48, Yes it sounds like some mixed repos or non-Debian repos |
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| 17:06.43 | MV48 | centrx: you're right. apt-cache policy says apt.postgresql.org |
| 17:07.19 | MV48 | centrx: regardless, that's a pretty big name repo... is there something else I should be doing? And obviously the libperl is using debian repos AFAIK |
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| 17:07.37 | boudiccas | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:07.50 | centrx | MV48, It sounds like that repo expects you to be running Debian wheezy, which has libperl5.14 |
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| 17:08.55 | MV48 | centrx: cat /etc/issue -> jessie/sid |
| 17:09.17 | MV48 | centrx: so there's no way around it because I'm running "jessie" rather than "wheezy", If I understand you correctly? |
| 17:09.34 | centrx | MV48, If you're running jessie, just use the version of postgresql in jessie, you don't need the other sources |
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| 17:10.00 | centrx | MV48, As jessie has 9.3/9.4beta |
| 17:10.07 | somiaj | boudiccas: man mount.vfat, or man mount and look at the options you can pass vfat filesystems. You can do slike uid= (user id for ownership), gid= (group id for ownership) -- I'd suggest sing those, but there is also umask you can set up which will set the permisions of all files, you can use dmask and fmask if you want permisions on directories and files different. |
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| 17:10.30 | MV48 | centrx: right, but I have 9.3 installed already and this plperl package is an optional extension |
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| 17:11.13 | centrx | MV48, I would replace the packages from postgresql.org with the equivalent packages/versions in testing |
| 17:11.35 | centrx | MV48, The package you have from PG.org expects to be installed on wheezy, and is unnecessary on jessie because jessie has the newer versions |
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| 17:12.15 | MV48 | centrx: I think I follow you. Should I remove the PG.org repo entry and do a apt-get update?\ |
| 17:12.40 | centrx | MV48, Sure yes |
| 17:12.49 | MV48 | Okay, thanks a bunch! |
| 17:12.59 | MV48 | Have a great day, my friend |
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| 17:13.01 | centrx | MV48, However, I shoul |
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| 17:13.16 | centrx | MV48, The package versions in jessie are all now -9.4, that's in the actual name of the package |
| 17:13.30 | centrx | MV48, So you would indeed uninstall the -9.3 packages from PG.org and install the -9.4 from jessie |
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| 17:13.43 | MV48 | centrx: thanks! |
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| 17:14.18 | boudiccas | this is how it shows using 'mount' = /dev/sdf1 on /media/boudiccas/CARD type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,uid=1000,gid=1000,fmask=0022,dmask=0077,codepage=437,iocharset=utf8,shortname=mixed,showexec,utf8,flush,errors=remount-ro,uhelper=udisks2) |
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| 17:15.28 | somiaj | boudiccas: change the fmask, dmask if you want to have everyone write permissions, i think you'll want fmask=0000 and dmask=0000, but usually this isn't considered nice. (: |
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| 17:15.54 | ololorin | Hi. I installed debian wheezy, and it was ok. I wanted to upgrade to jessie, so i changed all wheezies to jessies in sources.list, installed updates and rebooted. now i get kernel panic-not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown block(0,0). any ideas? :c |
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| 17:16.27 | centrx | ololorin, Try selecting the older kernel in grub |
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| 17:17.02 | somiaj | ololorin: did you just upgrade or did you do a dist-upgrade or full-upgrade? |
| 17:17.32 | jhutchins | ololorin: You understand now why it's called "testing". Restore your backup and you should be fine. |
| 17:17.35 | ololorin | just upgrade |
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| 17:17.45 | Deeps | hiya, in the past i used to use vmware gsx / vmware-server to run a virtual machine on a headless debian machine. neither of those options are available any more. does anyone have a suggestion for full OS virtualisation with VT extension support? |
| 17:17.55 | boudiccas | somiaj; thanks, any idea what the commands would be please? |
| 17:18.15 | Deeps | ideally with performance comparable to esxi (but obviously there'll be more overhead than esxi...) |
| 17:18.27 | somiaj | boudiccas: well I mount things from the command line so I just add those options manually. If you have some automoutner working, you'll have to look on how to configure the automounter. I don't use them so I don't know off the top of md. |
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| 17:19.16 | somiaj | Deeps: I have been liking kvm, it supports full virtulization and has some nice libaries (libvirt) to help automate manageing vms |
| 17:19.31 | Eduard_Munteanu | Does dpkg do any dependency resolution? |
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| 17:19.39 | somiaj | Eduard_Munteanu: nope |
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| 17:19.59 | ololorin | somiaj: was i meant to use full-upgrade? |
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| 17:20.40 | boudiccas | somiaj; currently its a usb microSD card holder, so I want to make the commands permanent for when it get put back into the mobile. but thanks, you've given me some good pointers |
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| 17:21.09 | somiaj | ololorin: if you only did apt-get upgrade or aptitude upgrade, you only upgraded part of your system not the full system. In that case you could be mixing packages from wheezy and jessie. Yes you needed to do a dist-upgrade or full-upgrade (usually I suggest using apt for the dist-upgrade over aptitude) |
| 17:21.22 | somiaj | ololorin: you may have to boot up off a resuce medium, chroot into your install and finish the upgrade |
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| 17:21.50 | Deeps | somiaj: cool, thanks |
| 17:22.30 | pankid | I am trying to set up an rsa ssh key to connect to my server, but the server is only checking for dsa and ecdsa |
| 17:22.43 | pankid | I check all of my permissions |
| 17:22.45 | somiaj | Deeps: nice thing about kvm is all of the features it needs to use the hardware virt support is in the stock linux kernels and you don't need additional modules/special kernels like say virtualbox of xen |
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| 17:24.47 | Deeps | somiaj: cool. i see it offers guest console via vnc too, handy |
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| 17:25.09 | jhutchins | pankid: So generate a compatible key and use that. |
| 17:25.17 | pankid | this is what I get when I run ssh -v |
| 17:25.18 | pankid | http://paste.debian.net/122845/ |
| 17:25.50 | pankid | jhutchins, I would rather use the key I already have. RSA works on every other debian box but this one and I cant figure out why. |
| 17:26.02 | kim__ | Hmm, CVE-2014-6271 lists there being a fix for squeeze in one table, are we still waiting? https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-6271 |
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| 17:26.34 | edoardo | hello |
| 17:26.42 | kim__ | eddul, olleh :-) |
| 17:26.55 | edoardo | i use debian in italian, but when i installed i did not have internet so now i have all the home folders in english |
| 17:26.59 | edoardo | how can i solve that? |
| 17:27.10 | jelly | kim__: waiting for your squeeze-lts mirror to update, yes |
| 17:27.11 | edoardo | tried xdg-user-dirs-update but doesn't work |
| 17:27.13 | Walex | pankid: why is it trying to authenticate with the RSA *public* key? "Offering RSA public key: /home/pan/.ssh/id_rsa" |
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| 17:27.20 | Eduard_Munteanu | somiaj, hm, wajig's 'recursive' command downloads a package along with its deps... perhaps I can use that, then install all of them? |
| 17:27.57 | kim__ | jelly, what's my best plan to proceed? switch mirror, or wait 'till morning? |
| 17:28.03 | Walex | edoardo: solve what? |
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| 17:28.24 | edoardo | Walex: Desktop -> Scrivania, Documents -> Documenti etc. |
| 17:28.34 | kim__ | hmm, mirror is ftp.nl.debian.org , that can't take too long ^^;; |
| 17:28.36 | edoardo | basically i have everything in italian but the folders |
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| 17:28.56 | petn-randall | Walex: Offering the private key would defeat the purpose ... |
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| 17:29.14 | pankid | Walex, I dont know. |
| 17:29.28 | kim__ | Walex, no one will ever tell you their private key ;-) |
| 17:29.36 | Spec | kim__: i'll tell you my private key |
| 17:29.39 | jelly | kim__: wait, I guess I don't have a "faster" mirror to offer |
| 17:29.40 | Walex | petn-randall: note the subsequent lines: "Trying private key: /home/pan/.ssh/id_dsa" "Trying private key: /home/pan/.ssh/id_ecdsa" "Trying private key: /home/pan/.ssh/id_ed25519" |
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| 17:29.53 | kim__ | Spec, :-P |
| 17:30.21 | petn-randall | Walex: Paste the command + full output to http://paste.debian.net then. |
| 17:30.29 | Spec | Walex: what's your .ssh/config look like? |
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| 17:30.57 | pankid | Spec, petn-randall you mean my .ssh/config? |
| 17:31.13 | Spec | petn-randall: oops. |
| 17:31.27 | Spec | gah, oops again. pankid yes. |
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| 17:31.51 | kim__ | jelly, :-) |
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| 17:32.05 | kim__ | jelly, all thanks for the advice, have a nice day! |
| 17:32.26 | petn-randall | Ah, the confusion ... |
| 17:32.52 | jhutchins | I would think sshd_config might be more releavant. |
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| 17:33.41 | somiaj | Eduard_Munteanu: I've heard of another tool related to dpkg that tries to get depends, gdebi or something like that |
| 17:34.15 | Walex | pankid: try to login to a machine where it succeds with the same trace. The public key gets offered, but then you must unlock the *private* key to get authenticated. Apparently in your trace the public key is offered, but then the server does not ask for validation so you don't get prompted for the private key passphrase. |
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| 17:35.03 | Eduard_Munteanu | I sort of understand all the madness behind -static packages and building initramfs's now... might be because package managers suck at prefix installation. :/ |
| 17:35.19 | Spec | pankid: are you sure the server is set up to accept your users' id_rsa's public key? |
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| 17:35.30 | pankid | Here is my sshd_config |
| 17:35.31 | pankid | http://paste.debian.net/122849/ |
| 17:35.32 | Spec | in remoteserver:~/.ssh/authorized_keys |
| 17:35.39 | Walex | Eduard_Munteanu: "package managers suck" is a shorter summary |
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| 17:37.52 | addaitech | how do i get adduser to generate a random password when adding a new user? |
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| 17:38.52 | pankid | Spec, I double checked that my public key matches the key in authorized_keys |
| 17:39.04 | somiaj | addaitech: I don't think it will, but you can generate random passwords using various other tools or sites |
| 17:39.05 | pankid | Spec, I used ssh-copy-id to transfer the key to the server |
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| 17:39.17 | Spec | pankid: the one offered? |
| 17:39.26 | pankid | yes |
| 17:39.27 | Spec | pankid: and do you have read permissions on your private key? |
| 17:39.32 | addaitech | i had it doing it before via cracklib, i forget how i set it up though |
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| 17:40.09 | Eduard_Munteanu | addaitech, nah, you can use makepasswd + chpasswd |
| 17:40.16 | somiaj | well if you can generate the password via a command, you can `command foo` (notice the backquotes) inside your adduser command and it will place the output of that command in place of where you used it. |
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| 17:41.18 | Eduard_Munteanu | Don't, it will stick into your history and ps output and ... |
| 17:41.25 | Spec | pankid: and the /etc/ssh/sshd_config you pasted was for your server or for your client? |
| 17:41.31 | pankid | Spec, server |
| 17:41.33 | Eduard_Munteanu | chpasswd specifically takes it via stdin |
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| 17:41.52 | Spec | pankid: and do you have a ~/.ssh/config ? |
| 17:42.09 | Spec | pankid: oh...can anything else auth with that server with a key? |
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| 17:42.38 | Spec | pankid: I don't know the default, but RSAAuthentication is commented out. It's likely on, though. |
| 17:43.05 | pankid | here is my sshing into a known working debian server with the same key |
| 17:43.06 | pankid | http://paste.debian.net/122851/ |
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| 17:43.29 | Eduard_Munteanu | pw=$(makepasswd --chars=20); chpasswd <<< "$user:$pw" # in bash |
| 17:43.46 | Eduard_Munteanu | Or something like that. |
| 17:44.06 | pankid | Spec, I had a key from root working before. I have disabled root login though for security |
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| 17:44.27 | Spec | pankid: see, once you offer that pu blic key, the server needs to 'accept' it and then you unlock your private key |
| 17:44.51 | Spec | pankid: PubkeyAuthentication defaults to yes, hmm |
| 17:45.09 | pankid | I do not think I have touched my config on the host machine |
| 17:45.14 | pankid | it is running arch linux though |
| 17:45.28 | pankid | but I have never had any issues administering debian servers besides this one box |
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| 17:45.49 | Spec | pankid: i would recheck permissions on the server's ~/.ssh/ directory for your user |
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| 17:47.13 | pankid | I did that before asking on here. I did 700 for ~/ , 700 for ~/.ssh/ , and 600 for ~/.authorized_keys |
| 17:47.32 | pankid | I also did the same thing for my host but did 600 for the public key |
| 17:47.37 | Spec | pankid: and your host can currently ssh into other similarly setup servers? |
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| 17:48.00 | pankid | Spec, yes. The only difference is the other servers are debian stable and this server is testing |
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| 17:48.37 | Twinkletoes | pankid: you've disabled root login, how? |
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| 17:49.24 | bezaban | ,cve-lookup 2014-6271 |
| 17:49.35 | Spec | oh... |
| 17:49.44 | Twinkletoes | pankid: If you've disabled root login, you've done just that. In sshd_config, try: PermitRootLogin without-password |
| 17:49.58 | Twinkletoes | pankid: thank will prevent passwrod login, but allow key-based login |
| 17:50.09 | Spec | he doesn't want any root login, i don't think |
| 17:50.43 | Spec | pankid: you spelled authorized with a z, right? :D |
| 17:50.55 | pankid | Twinkletoes, I am disabling root login in the servers sshd_config |
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| 17:51.12 | Twinkletoes | pankid: as per my previous two comments? |
| 17:51.24 | synmuffin | ahhhhhh |
| 17:51.24 | bezaban | I just got an update for bash on a fully patched system. However https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-6271 says it wasn't fixed yet |
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| 17:51.31 | synmuffin | i got it jelly thanks for all your help |
| 17:51.34 | Twinkletoes | pankid: PermitRootLogin without-password |
| 17:51.44 | bezaban | anyone know if this last update adresses cve-2014-6271? |
| 17:51.51 | pankid | PermitRootLogin no |
| 17:51.51 | pankid | RSAAuthentication yes |
| 17:51.51 | pankid | PubkeyAuthentication yes |
| 17:52.07 | Spec | pankid: that's in /etc/ssh/sshd_config of the server? |
| 17:52.13 | pankid | yes |
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| 17:52.17 | Spec | i saw that only commented out ...? |
| 17:52.22 | jelly | bezaban: look at the changelog. zless /usr/share/doc/bash/changelog.Debian.gz |
| 17:52.34 | Spec | 13:47 < pankid> I did that before asking on here. I did 700 for ~/ , 700 for ~/.ssh/ , and 600 for ~/.authorized_keys |
| 17:52.44 | jelly | bezaban: install apt-listchanges to have changelog deltas displayed right before installation |
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| 17:52.47 | pankid | I think I messed up pasting that. I will link the correct config file. Sorry |
| 17:52.48 | Spec | pankid: can you recheck that..... it needs to be ~/.ssh/.authorized_keys |
| 17:52.54 | Twinkletoes | pankid: Changer tyour "OPermitRootLogin" value as per my previous comment |
| 17:53.00 | Spec | pankid: so if .authorized_keys is in your home directory, that would be the cause |
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| 17:53.07 | Spec | Twinkletoes: why? |
| 17:53.08 | bezaban | jelly: great. thanks |
| 17:53.13 | Spec | Twinkletoes: he's having probelms with user rsa keys, not root |
| 17:53.22 | heurist | bezaban: that site says "fixed" in wheezy (security) |
| 17:53.27 | Twinkletoes | Spec: My bad - I thought it was just root |
| 17:53.49 | Spec | pankid: i sure hope your .authorized_keys file is in your home directory because that's an easy fix :) |
| 17:54.02 | bezaban | heurist: hah, must have been updated just now then :) |
| 17:54.18 | pankid | Spec, sorry. Another typo on my part. authorized_keys is under ~/.ssh/ |
| 17:54.23 | Twinkletoes | Spec, he previosuly said: "Spec, I had a key from root working before. I have disabled root login though for security" which is why I thought he wanted to enable root login by keys only, just not password |
| 17:54.36 | Spec | pankid: ah, ok. |
| 17:54.48 | Spec | pankid: well, let's see /etc/ssh/sshd_config from the server |
| 17:54.58 | heurist | Dunedan: mount -o bind ... if I recall what you are asking about |
| 17:55.00 | bezaban | heurist: or I could have mislooked in my panic :P bette rnwo |
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| 17:55.09 | Spec | panand if you don't mind, ls -l ~/.ssh/ |
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| 17:55.18 | heurist | bezaban: panic makes mistakes. yah. |
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| 17:56.22 | pankid | Spec, http://paste.debian.net/122854/ |
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| 17:57.20 | pankid | Twinkletoes, I am trying to get my rsa key working to ssh into this debian server. I use the same key on multiple debian servers with no issue. This one server is testing instead of stable and will not prompt me for my private key |
| 17:57.36 | pankid | here is the output of ssh -v again |
| 17:57.37 | pankid | http://paste.debian.net/122845/ |
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| 18:01.34 | pankid | here is also the output of ssh -v on a known working server with the same key again. |
| 18:01.35 | pankid | http://paste.debian.net/122851/ |
| 18:01.35 | Twinkletoes | pankid: Check your private message window |
| 18:04.00 | bbtech | I just ran a full-upgrade yesterday and now my sound is not working (I was on jessie before the upgrade). I'm a bit new to troubleshooting this any help is appreciated. |
| 18:04.13 | bbtech | I get no sound from mplayer -ao alsa:device=default $file as my user or as sudo. |
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| 18:05.57 | towo` | bbtech, cat /proc/asound/cards |
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| 18:06.24 | bbtech | HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH |
| 18:06.25 | bbtech | HDA Intel PCH at 0xf7f10000 irq 43 |
| 18:06.40 | towo` | bbtech, this is all? |
| 18:06.48 | jelly | bbtech: the right place to ask about jessie issues is #debian-next over on irc.oftc.net |
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| 18:07.15 | bbtech | towo`, yup that is it |
| 18:07.32 | bbtech | jelly, they ignored my request for help (seems less active) |
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| 18:08.00 | towo` | bbtech, aplay -l |
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| 18:08.59 | bbtech | towo`, http://pastebin.com/VPPB5YxK |
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| 18:12.29 | Intensity | I'm wondering why apt-get install 'openssh-client=6.0p1-4+deb7u2' is not working on Debian Wheezy, after an apt-get update. Do I need to specify the version in some other way? Is a "+" confusing it? |
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| 18:13.22 | centrx | Intensity, Do you have a security line in your sources.list |
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| 18:13.37 | pankid | Spec, -rw------- 1 pan pan 401 Sep 24 13:12 authorized_keys |
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| 18:14.00 | Intensity | centrx: Yes. When I do an "apt-get install openssh-client" on its own, then it does install just that version. But somehow manually specifying it is causing a problem. |
| 18:14.13 | bbtech | I opened gstreamer-properties and I get no sound from pulseAudio server but I do get sound from alsa |
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| 18:15.09 | Intensity | I've also checked that even on an existing system with the package already installed (at that version), manually specifying the version fails. |
| 18:15.27 | towo` | bbtech, then why not use mplayer -ao pulse foo? |
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| 18:15.53 | bbtech | towo`, I get no sound from that |
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| 18:16.22 | towo` | bbtech, and btw, of you use pulseaudio, you should disable hdmi with pavucontrol |
| 18:17.40 | bbtech | pavucontrol command not found |
| 18:18.16 | towo` | bbtech, dpkg -l | grep pulse |
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| 18:18.48 | bbtech | towo`, http://pastebin.com/PF2vQVY6 |
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| 18:19.21 | towo` | bbtech, apt-get install pavucontrol |
| 18:20.19 | bbtech | installed |
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| 18:20.30 | bbtech | it looks like it is trying to play on hdmi display port 2 |
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| 18:21.36 | gomoran | Did 32-bit jessie changed architecture to âi586-linux-gnuâ? |
| 18:21.41 | towo` | bbtech, mplayer -ao alsa:device=hw=0.0 foo should also work |
| 18:22.02 | bbtech | towo`, that works |
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| 18:22.20 | towo` | i would use pulseaudio |
| 18:22.28 | bbtech | how do I switch it? |
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| 18:23.02 | towo` | bbtech, put pulseaudio instead of alsa in the soundsettings of your app |
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| 18:23.22 | towo` | bbtech, configure all outputs with pavucontrol |
| 18:23.23 | bbtech | hmm, I can't get sound in my browser or spotify |
| 18:23.32 | bbtech | pavucontrol won't let me change the port |
| 18:23.44 | bbtech | it only lists "hdmi /display port 2" |
| 18:24.41 | Intensity | Hmm. I solved the issue. Apparently the true version of openssh-client is not 6.0p1... but it is instead prefixed with 1:6.0p1... |
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| 18:26.56 | towo` | bbtech, i can't reproduce that here, so it looks here: http://i.imgur.com/myGEkik.jpg |
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| 18:28.44 | bbtech | towo`, it looks like: http://imgur.com/eodLAqf,JnrKFym |
| 18:28.52 | bbtech | and: http://imgur.com/eodLAqf,JnrKFym#1 |
| 18:29.10 | bbtech | with the 2nd image the port: drop down has no additional options |
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| 18:29.41 | towo` | no clue then, sorryy |
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| 18:30.42 | bbtech | towo`, thanks for the help |
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| 18:31.07 | bbtech | that at least helped me figure out that my display port has sound. So I can plug headphones into that |
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| 18:34.03 | __raven_ | did anyone try btrfs on debian already? how does it perform/how stable? |
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| 18:34.50 | format_c | me |
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| 18:35.32 | format_c | I strongly recommend it for SSDs mounted with the ssd option |
| 18:35.50 | format_c | this extends the life of the SSD. |
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| 18:36.49 | DarkLinkXXXX | Where should I report broken packages in sid? |
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| 18:37.15 | heurist | __raven_: I am running btrfs on this box for nearly two years now, after a year it slowed down to unbearable levels. get the newer kernel from backports for some speed boosts, but still slow. no problems with stability, snapshots are nice. I will not be using it when I reinstall for jessie |
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| 18:37.26 | ivanshmakov | Re. DSA 3032-1, â do I understand it correctly that it /only/ affects cases when essentially a non-trusted user gets (possibly indirect) access to Bash? |
| 18:37.50 | format_c | I had various unclean shutdowns / power losses where the ext partitions needed to recover their journal to become consistent, while the btrfs partition has no need for it. I couldn't recognize any loss of data though. |
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| 18:38.41 | heurist | ivanshmakov: "only" is a strong word. |
| 18:39.01 | tremon | ivanshmakov: trusted users are equally affected |
| 18:39.11 | ivanshmakov | tremon, heurist: Specifically? |
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| 18:39.22 | __raven_ | heurist format_c ok tnx |
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| 18:40.14 | heurist | ivanshmakov: it might affect other things too. upgrade! |
| 18:40.15 | tremon | ivanshmakov: it affects any situation where a user can modify the /environment/ in which bash is executed, whether through ssh, http, or any remote or local shell |
| 18:40.22 | ivanshmakov | For instance, is it possible to exploit this vulnerability over SSH connections by a trusted user from a trusted host? |
| 18:41.37 | ivanshmakov | tremon: Well, yes.âBut that only gives that user the privileges he or she already /has/ by the virtue of having access to that very same Bash, interactively.âOr do I get it wrong? |
| 18:41.38 | heurist | ivanshmakov: your use of terms makes me scared to answer. if you trust them then they execute whatever they like. do you trust that they are not hacked? |
| 18:41.41 | tremon | ivanshmakov: yes, that's possible. However the current exploit doesn't seem to allow privilege escalation fafaics |
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| 18:41.45 | MasterXC | ivanshmakov: well, yes. To test your system, try out this: env x='() { :;}; echo vulnerable' bash -c "echo this is a test" |
| 18:41.58 | MasterXC | If successful, it'll echo the vulnerable message. |
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| 18:42.35 | heurist | ivanshmakov: the current exploit might not do privilege escalation on its own, but does let someone run command that might. |
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| 18:43.21 | tremon | ivanshmakov: that's true, if your users already have shell access nothing is leaked. However this also affects users who are usually allowed to only run rbash |
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| 18:43.32 | MasterXC | Yeah...they could run *any* command on your system ...such as wget'ing a rogue script that does other fun things like a reverse shell |
| 18:43.34 | ivanshmakov | heurist: Why would a trusted user need to run that command this way when he can just $ ssh theserver bad-bad-very-bad-command? |
| 18:44.09 | tremon | ivanshmakov: well, for one, the pre-login command isn't captured by any history/logging tool |
| 18:44.10 | MasterXC | ivanshmakov: the exploit is dangerous because of the untrusted users...trusted users already have shell, so it doesn't apply. |
| 18:44.12 | heurist | ivanshmakov: exactly. if you trust them you trust them. |
| 18:44.18 | ivanshmakov | tremon: No such users on my systems, thankfully; there shouldnât even be any CGI shell scripts, either, but I guess Iâd better check for sure. |
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| 18:44.48 | MasterXC | But, basically anything that can call a subshell (for example, PHP's exec()) is vulnerable |
| 18:45.02 | ivanshmakov | MasterXC: No PHP on my servers, surely, ever. |
| 18:45.08 | grubles | how can i get my 2nd monitor to not be a mirror of my 1st? |
| 18:45.09 | MasterXC | heh |
| 18:45.16 | grubles | i have a laptop and an external monitor |
| 18:45.18 | grubles | debian testing |
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| 18:45.49 | ivanshmakov | MasterXC, heurist, tremon: Thanks for the comments, I guess Iâve got it. |
| 18:45.51 | MasterXC | I believe there's some magic with SSH pre-login commands and things, but all I know is that proof of concept command above to test my own systems |
| 18:45.56 | Develectron | grubles, google it :p |
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| 18:46.24 | MasterXC | Debian system is patched...waiting for the CentOS patch to work its way through |
| 18:46.42 | grubles | Develectron: i did |
| 18:47.00 | Spec | heh, did pankid figure it out? his authorized_keys file wasn't a hidden file (.authorized_)keys) |
| 18:47.46 | grubles | in xfce there is no option to make an external monitor a mirror or not |
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| 18:50.19 | DarkLinkXXXX | Anyone else using sid 64-bit? See if iceweasel works. For me it hangs on startup. |
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| 18:51.47 | DarkLinkXXXX | Gdb gives nothing useful, with default settings. |
| 18:53.12 | grubles | xrandr --output VGA1 --right-of LVDS1 |
| 18:53.14 | grubles | that solved it |
| 18:53.15 | grubles | woot |
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| 18:54.59 | tremon | DarkLinkXXXX: no issues here, on testing (same versions: 31.1.0). Try starting with a clean profile or -no-remote |
| 18:55.16 | bbtech | towo`, in pavucontrol I switched my profile to "analog stereo duplex" and then I had more options for the port. So I set the port to "headphones" and now I have the sound on my laptop headphone jack. |
| 18:55.35 | DarkLinkXXXX | Oh, I caught a sigserv in gdb! |
| 18:56.26 | DarkLinkXXXX | http://pastebin.com/3wJpUUUQ |
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| 18:57.33 | DarkLinkXXXX | Should I generate a core file and submit it to a team? |
| 18:58.02 | david89 | Hello. I have a cms that uses postfix to send emails. I have email setup with gmail and am having problems sending emails to the same domain, they try getting delivered locally but fail. Any help? |
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| 19:02.31 | usrnix | is there a way to see a systemd service error without running journtalctl -xn? |
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| 19:03.12 | PryMar56 | usrnix, systemctl status <name> |
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| 19:04.00 | usrnix | PryMar56: Ah yea, thanks |
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| 19:04.20 | DarkLinkXXXX | tremon, You're right, it's only the plugin compatibility checker that crashes. |
| 19:05.06 | ivanshmakov | ⦠Well, just discovered some shell CGI scripts on my systems.âThe majority of them are #!/bin/sh (which is Dash), but thereâs also a handful that are #!/bin/bash.âI guess itâs the time to make âem Dash. |
| 19:05.34 | ivanshmakov | But is DSAÂ 3032-1 exploitable via Apacheâs mod_cgi, anyway? |
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| 19:06.46 | tremon | ivanshmakov: from what I understood, http headers are supplied to cgi scripts as envvars. Assuming mod_cgi does that as well, it's vulnerable |
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| 19:08.40 | tremon | DarkLinkXXXX: a good backtrace always helps, but yes I'd submit a bug report. However, "resource temporarily unavailable" might indicate a problem with X as well |
| 19:09.04 | ivanshmakov | tremon: Indeed; itâs worse than it seemed. |
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| 19:09.20 | tremon | although it's equally likely that the resource is unavailable because (a previous) iceweasel is hogging it |
| 19:09.54 | DarkLinkXXXX | Hmm⦠that sounds bad, but then I'd expect to be experiencing other symptoms as well. I'll try to do some basic troubleshooting before submitting a report. |
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| 19:11.19 | DarkLinkXXXX | It's also worth noting the the errors are inconsistent. Sometimes it gets a sigserv, sometimes an abort due to a failed assertion. |
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| 19:12.33 | tremon | are you sure no other iceweasel or xulrunner processes are running? try hard killing all of them (but be sure to close icedove nicely first) |
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| 19:13.03 | DarkLinkXXXX | tremon, Yes. |
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| 19:14.09 | DarkLinkXXXX | If I can get different errors, should I submit backtraces of all of them? |
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| 19:15.03 | tremon | that's probably best. You can also ask #debian-next on irc.oftc.net first, might find more testing/unstable users there |
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| 19:15.24 | DarkLinkXXXX | tremon, Thanks |
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| 19:29.30 | __raven_ | heurist format_c do you know about some automated toolchains for btrfs for defrag, snapshots and such things? |
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| 19:32.03 | heurist | __raven_: automated? no. I just do btrfs filesystem defragment / every few weeks. |
| 19:32.29 | __raven_ | heurist: automated snapshots with autodelete after x days? |
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| 19:36.36 | heurist | __raven_: bash and cron ? |
| 19:36.56 | __raven_ | heurist: yes |
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| 19:37.13 | jhutchins | Wow. I've never defragged an ext filesystem. |
| 19:37.14 | usrnix | when restarting nginx with systemd it seems to be using the package description when describing it, is this a bug? i.e.: "Reloading A high performance web server ..." |
| 19:37.29 | jhutchins | Every few weeks is worse than Windows! |
| 19:38.09 | heurist | jhutchins: is bad |
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| 19:39.29 | karlpinc | usrnix: Dunno about systemd. The LSB description is displayed when restarting with the Sys-V method and insserve driven depencency boot. It makes sense it'd use the same description with systemd. |
| 19:40.02 | karlpinc | usrnix: You could read the debian policy manual. |
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| 19:42.02 | usrnix | karlpinc: Sure, just seemed like a bug since it's completely pointless to do that and spams out text when it could just use the name, whoknow |
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| 19:44.26 | valdyn | __raven_: see "snapper" |
| 19:44.29 | Okitain | Hey people, does anyone else suffer from the zero-brightness switching backlight off completely? |
| 19:44.31 | karlpinc | usrnix: Humm. The LSB Desc value for nginx in wheezy is 'nginx'. So, something's different with systemd. (No clue what relationship systemd has with LSB.) Sorry, can't help. Maybe somebody else knows. |
| 19:44.37 | valdyn | __raven_: thats hourly by default |
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| 19:45.28 | mayhew | What's the current status of systemd in jessie? |
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| 19:45.56 | stampon | Does anyone know the grub command to set the keyboard layout? |
| 19:46.51 | __raven_ | valdyn: tnx ill look for it |
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| 19:51.32 | cat_pants | Hi folks, does anyone know the name of the package that is analogous to the package "lxc-templates" in CentOS? Thanks! |
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| 19:52.29 | Nik05 | cat_pants lxc? |
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| 19:53.32 | cat_pants | Ah, looks like the "lxc" package in debian includes several templates, but it doesn't include the "centos" template that I was looking for. |
| 19:53.58 | cat_pants | Let me revise my question: Is there a package that has a CentOS template for lxc? |
| 19:54.06 | cat_pants | Thank you! |
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| 20:01.42 | Deeps | thanks for the tips on virtualisation |
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| 20:02.08 | Deeps | does anyone have any recommendations for what to use for monitoring cpu load, disk utilisation, temperature sensors, etc, and produce some nice graphs from it all? |
| 20:02.24 | Deeps | i've used cacti in the past but it was a mission to setup and i'm not sure i've got that kind of time anymore |
| 20:02.43 | __raven_ | valdyn: tnx ill look for it |
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| 20:05.50 | socomm | Reminder to patch your debian installs. |
| 20:05.57 | socomm | http://www.csoonline.com/article/2687265/application-security/remote-exploit-in-bash-cve-2014-6271.html |
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| 20:07.51 | sebastian1 | is there a manual or info for talking to the bots? |
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| 20:08.55 | r3n1c0n | hi |
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| 20:09.12 | r3n1c0n | where can i change my dimlight at bootup for debian > openbox |
| 20:09.18 | r3n1c0n | on laptop |
| 20:09.33 | heurist | !tell sebastian1 -about dpkgbot |
| 20:10.31 | sebastian1 | heurist: thanks |
| 20:10.43 | bernardo | Hi |
| 20:10.58 | r3n1c0n | hi |
| 20:11.13 | bernardo | I am having problems installing debian. |
| 20:11.32 | bernardo | It may need wireless drivers? |
| 20:11.52 | Okitain | How are you installing it, bernardo? |
| 20:11.55 | mtn | bernardo: this installer might help: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ |
| 20:12.19 | bernardo | Thanks |
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| 20:15.30 | r3n1c0n | console command |
| 20:16.15 | mtn | r3n1c0n: is dmesg what you are looking for? |
| 20:16.16 | sebastian1 | does this channel post public logs? |
| 20:16.39 | r3n1c0n | mtn, yes you rock ;) |
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| 20:21.20 | Okitain | sebastian1: there doesn't seem to be an official one |
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| 20:26.07 | jhutchins | oconnore: You don't yet, that's one of the hazards of running testing/unstable. |
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| 20:26.46 | jhutchins | r3n1c0n: Possibly dmesg | less |
| 20:27.08 | nesta | anyone here have any experience with mounting/using iPhone(iOS 6.1.6) on Debian Jessie? |
| 20:27.15 | CarlGel | oconnore what's wrong with it, out of curiousity? |
| 20:27.15 | nesta | it used to mount just fine but something is up with libimobiledevice/usbmuxd |
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| 20:30.41 | somiaj | nesta: is it an issue was it was working then after an upgrade it didn't work? |
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| 20:30.45 | biggi_mat | Hello. I installed a new Debian 7 wheezy on a disk image via fakeroot/fakechroot mechanism and later when I try to boot the machine, I get âKernel panic - not syncing. No init foundâ. Any clues if thereâs a known problem using this method? My bootloader is grub and /boot/grub/menu.lst looks appropriate with kernel and initrd parameters |
| 20:31.22 | nesta | somiaj: it used to work for me on previous installations, its never worked on this install |
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| 20:31.41 | nesta | I found a lot of similar errors on Google, but no real solutions |
| 20:31.54 | nesta | thought I would try Freenode as a last resort ;[ |
| 20:32.03 | somiaj | biggi_mat: sounds like you didn't install init inside of the system, do 'ls -l /sbin/init' to see |
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| 20:32.23 | somiaj | nesta: I don't use such hardware, but my suggestion is compare an install it worked on vs this one see if you can find the difference. |
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| 20:32.36 | nesta | thanks :) |
| 20:32.45 | biggi_mat | somiaj: hum, might be. Iâll try to check. Thanks |
| 20:32.46 | somiaj | biggi_mat: what did you use to install the system into the chroot in the first place? |
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| 20:33.04 | biggi_mat | somiaj: debootstrap |
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| 20:33.38 | somiaj | biggi_mat: yea seems weird to me that init is missing, but I would take the error you ahve as init is missing |
| 20:33.49 | r3n1c0n | trying to mount my s3 lols |
| 20:34.02 | somiaj | biggi_mat: could be a grub configuration issue not pointing at /sbin/init like it should |
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| 20:34.39 | t_dot_zilla | apparently debian is vuln to this as well.... |
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| 20:34.47 | t_dot_zilla | http://community.redhat.com/blog/2014/09/critical-bash-security-vulnerability-update-your-systems-today/ |
| 20:34.52 | t_dot_zilla | env x='() { :;}; echo OOPS' bash -c /bin/true |
| 20:34.58 | biggi_mat | somiaj: ehmâ¦itâs a Xen image. Iâm not all that sure how that should be done. Should find out |
| 20:35.30 | heurist | t_dot_zilla: yes, everything that uses bash is vulnerable. it is already fixed in debian stable though. |
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| 20:36.00 | somiaj | biggi_mat: ahh, yea I'm not that familar with xen images... |
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| 20:36.11 | t_dot_zilla | heurist: wow that was fast :) |
| 20:36.22 | somiaj | t_dot_zilla: there was a DSA about that eariler today and if you have full security updates you are not vulnable to it |
| 20:36.29 | heurist | t_dot_zilla: it was serious. that is why we use debian. |
| 20:36.40 | t_dot_zilla | what is DSA? |
| 20:36.43 | nesta | Debian Jessie still seems vulnerable? |
| 20:36.45 | somiaj | t_dot_zilla: https://www.debian.org/security/2014/dsa-3032 |
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| 20:37.16 | heurist | nesta: yes, jessie and sid are not supported by the security team. that is why we use stable |
| 20:37.16 | somiaj | nesta: security does not fix jessie, the new package in sid should be fixed and that package will eventaully filter down to jessie, but testing does not have secuirty support. |
| 20:37.37 | nesta | hrm damnit |
| 20:37.39 | nesta | ok thanks |
| 20:37.51 | nesta | is it possible to downgrade to stable? |
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| 20:37.54 | somiaj | t_dot_zilla: DSA = debian security annoucment. |
| 20:37.56 | somiaj | nesta: nope |
| 20:38.09 | somiaj | nesta: debian is only designed to be upgraded not the other way around, you will have to reinstall |
| 20:38.10 | nesta | Google seems to think its possible.. |
| 20:38.14 | t_dot_zilla | cool |
| 20:38.15 | nesta | hrm |
| 20:38.19 | somiaj | !tell nesta about partial downgrade |
| 20:38.44 | nesta | thanks |
| 20:38.47 | somiaj | nesta: there are many scripts that are designed to upgrade but if you downgrade will not undo what they have done, usually it is not recomeneded you downgrade. |
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| 20:40.21 | nesta | okay |
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| 20:41.23 | nesta | somiaj: so it sounds like sid is supported, security wise, more so than testing is.. is that correct? |
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| 20:41.51 | valdyn | nesta: no |
| 20:41.55 | somiaj | nesta: yes, but don't expect sid fixes to be as quick as stable, it will just happen the next time the package matianer uploads a new package to sid |
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| 20:42.22 | nesta | damn, wish I had read more about Debian branches now :) |
| 20:42.28 | somiaj | nesta: basically sid just gets all the new packages, sometimes a new package is uploaded cause it is a new version, other times it is uploaded due to a bug/security fix. But if you read the DSA you will see the sid package was not fixed at that time. |
| 20:42.38 | nesta | yeah |
| 20:42.48 | nesta | is stable okay for use on desktop? |
| 20:42.55 | nesta | I guess it is.. |
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| 20:43.12 | somiaj | biggest issue people have with stable on a desktop is 1) hardware support -- but this is usually fixed by a backported kernel |
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| 20:43.48 | CarlGel | I'm planning on installing Debian later, and I will be dual booting with windows. so I'm going through a VM first to familiarize myself first, and am using the graphical installer. When I get to partitioning, would I go by guided, and that would not ruin my windows partition? Or should I go through manual partitioning? |
| 20:43.51 | somiaj | the second issue is 'outdated software' or shiny new stuff syndrom, again backports fix some of these issues. |
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| 20:44.27 | mtn | CarlGel: it is safest to use manual, as it gives you complete control |
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| 20:44.57 | somiaj | CarlGel: manual would be my suggestion, but if you have empty space that hasn't been partitioned the guided should only use that. But I would steak any vauable data on that claim. |
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| 20:45.05 | ZenWalker | hi |
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| 20:45.16 | CarlGel | It won't be valuble data, as I'm reinstalling windows as well. |
| 20:45.32 | somiaj | CarlGel: you should install windows first and debian second |
| 20:45.47 | CarlGel | I'll make a fairly small partition for windows, after windows is installed, I will reboot and install debian. |
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| 20:45.56 | ZenWalker | I can suscribe to any bug for the news? |
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| 20:46.13 | CarlGel | I am unfortunately not very well versed in partitioning and disadvantages of different methods. |
| 20:46.23 | heurist | ZenWalker: something like https://www.debian.org/security/2014/ ? |
| 20:46.33 | CarlGel | Also, putting /var, /home, and so on in different partitions, what are the advantages/disadvantages? |
| 20:46.46 | somiaj | though with efi boot and gpt partitions the order may not matter as much anymore |
| 20:46.50 | valdyn | CarlGel: dont do it. |
| 20:46.53 | heurist | CarlGel: if you do not know the advantages you do not need it. |
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| 20:47.01 | mtn | CarlGel: as a beginner, everything in one partition is my suggestion. make sure to have backups, too ;) |
| 20:47.07 | CarlGel | understood. |
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| 20:47.22 | somiaj | CarlGel: depends on usage. I personally suggest /home as a seperate partition but that is not nesecessary. |
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| 20:47.50 | ZenWalker | heurist: no, the bugs on bugs.debian.org |
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| 20:48.11 | somiaj | ZenWalker: so you want an email any time a bug is reported or modified? |
| 20:48.26 | CarlGel | It's been a while since I've been to a channel on freenode that's helpful, having four different people respond to me in less than a minute with a helpful answer is rather nice. :P |
| 20:48.46 | ZenWalker | ah, I see the link "suscribe" |
| 20:48.48 | ZenWalker | thanks |
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| 20:49.17 | somiaj | CarlGel: part of the distro you pick is the support community you get. #debian is a good support community (provided you are running debian and not a derivative) |
| 20:50.02 | CarlGel | I'll also be carrying over 2 storage disks over (They'll be unplugged until I'm done installing as to be 100% safe). They're currently formatted in NTFS I believe, what will I have to do once I have debian set up in order to mount them? |
| 20:50.44 | heurist | CarlGel: apt-get install ntfs-3g |
| 20:50.52 | somiaj | CarlGel: by default the linux kernel as NTFS read support, but via fuse you can get full read/write support using the ntfs-3g driver. Depending on what/how you install debian you may have to install the ntfs-3g package to get full write support for them. |
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| 20:51.13 | somiaj | some desktops I think install ntfs-3g by default, but what you install is optional |
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| 20:51.41 | CarlGel | Ah, wonderful. Will they automatically mount as in winblobs, or will it be necessary to provide commands? |
| 20:52.59 | somiaj | again depends on the desktop you choose. The big desktops set up automounters for you CarlGel (if you choose the defaults (gnome) it should be automatic) |
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| 20:53.14 | piroko | When I run dpkg --add-architecture <arch>, what actually gets modified on disk? |
| 20:53.17 | somiaj | CarlGel: if you choose to go minimial and use your faviorate wm, then you may have to configure/set up stuff more manually. |
| 20:53.28 | somiaj | piroko: some files in /var/lib/dpkg |
| 20:53.50 | piroko | /var/lib/dpkg/arch. Cool thanks somiaj! |
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| 20:54.16 | CarlGel | Ah, okay. I was thinking about perhaps trying lxde or xfce, so if it doesn't automount I'll figure it out I suppose. |
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| 20:54.45 | nesta | what happens when you are running stable and their is a new stable release, does apt-get dist-upgrade do the trick? |
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| 20:55.12 | valdyn | nesta: not really |
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| 20:55.41 | somiaj | CarlGel: xfce seems to set up most stuff automaticlaly, not sure about lxde some things are a bit lighter (though I think automount is common enough it will happen there too) |
| 20:55.49 | valdyn | nesta: when theres a new release you read the release notes |
| 20:55.59 | valdyn | nesta: which explain how to upgrade |
| 20:56.21 | somiaj | nesta: you should have 'wheezy' in your sources.list instead of 'stable' to ensure you don't acidnetally upgrade. You will want to backup and make sure there isn't some special order you need to upgrade things in. |
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| 20:57.57 | CarlGel | somiaj, for DEs that don't automount, do you need to have it set in crontab, or is mounting it once enough? |
| 20:58.40 | somiaj | CarlGel: There are tools that do this, I don't know what they are as I don't like automounters. I just manually mount things with the options I want. |
| 20:58.52 | somiaj | CarlGel: but if you choose lxde or xfce4 I doubt this will be an issue. |
| 20:59.17 | somiaj | CarlGel: you can also goto live.debian.net and run the live images for lxde and xfce (they have both, also gnome or kde) and see which on you like best before doing the install |
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| 21:01.09 | CarlGel | I'm asking because I generally like to attempt to split up what disks have what on them, such as having torrents on one disk, games on the other, and system stuff on the other in order to reduce disk thrashing (although, in hindsight I'm not sure if it helps. At the very least it makes me happy to have things split. :P) Therefore, I will want things mounting at boot I think. |
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| 21:05.55 | Knaldgas | I'm debugging some slow ethernet connection, getting 100mbit/s where I ought to have 1Gbit/s. Both machines are linking at 1Gbit/s so that should be ok. One machine has a RTL8111/8168B card, but an r8169 driver is loaded - Could that cause any issues on a Squeeze? |
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| 21:06.13 | Knaldgas | In other words, should I install the r8168 driver instead? |
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| 21:07.45 | jhutchins | somiaj: Is fuse usable from the console, or at a system level? |
| 21:08.24 | jhutchins | I mean, what if I have a headless server and it needs to write to NTFS. Do I have to install gnome? |
| 21:09.16 | jhutchins | Knaldgas: How are you measuring the speed? |
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| 21:09.46 | heurist | jhutchins: mount -t nfs-3g ... works fine from console. |
| 21:09.49 | Knaldgas | First transfered over a CIFS mount, then a scp copy between the machines, both directions |
| 21:10.12 | jhutchins | heurist: Presumably would work with auto in fstab? |
| 21:10.15 | Knaldgas | Large file copy, 30 second transfer |
| 21:10.34 | jhutchins | Knaldgas: Does ethtool show a 1G connection? |
| 21:10.44 | Knaldgas | jhutchins, Yep |
| 21:10.45 | heurist | jhutchins: fstab yes. |
| 21:10.47 | Knaldgas | On both machines |
| 21:11.05 | jhutchins | Knaldgas: Is there a switch between the machines? |
| 21:11.52 | Knaldgas | Yes, multiple, and it could be that there is a 100mbit/s link between some of them, but I can't check that easily |
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| 21:12.23 | jhutchins | Knaldgas: I know that hard disk performance can affect the Internet Speed Test performance. |
| 21:13.02 | jhutchins | Knaldgas: I have Google Fiber, and the only system that gets close to 1G is the newest one with the SSD. Older systems, even though they have 1G connections, only get about 500M on downloads. |
| 21:13.17 | jhutchins | Knaldgas: Faster uploads for some reason. |
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| 21:13.44 | jhutchins | Knaldgas: I tried brand new Intel 1G cards and it didn't make any difference. |
| 21:13.44 | heurist | jhutchins: because reading is faster then writing. |
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| 21:14.29 | jhutchins | Knaldgas: I guess one test would be to do a local scp and see if it's as fast as it should be. |
| 21:14.38 | smyers | Might want to try something like iperf to check the speed |
| 21:14.39 | petn-randall | You'll only hit > 500 MB/s on disk if it's either a RAID or a fast SSD. |
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| 21:15.22 | Knaldgas | Both server and client do copy the same file internally within 6 seconds - I did execute a "time (cp test.avi test2.avi && sync)" |
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| 21:15.51 | valdyn | Knaldgas: why dont you use netcat (nc) to test speed |
| 21:15.57 | Knaldgas | jhutchins, A local scp would probably not exercise the netcard |
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| 21:16.04 | jhutchins | petn-randall: Maybe a 10k disk. |
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| 21:16.17 | Knaldgas | valdyn, I could do that of course... - Will do |
| 21:16.21 | jhutchins | Knaldgas: Exactly. Eliminate it from the test. |
| 21:16.34 | Knaldgas | jhutchins, :) Will try that as well |
| 21:16.48 | valdyn | Knaldgas: and /dev/null / /dev/zero should be fast enough |
| 21:16.52 | petn-randall | jhutchins: Didn't get such data rates on the disks I had. Then again they were already a few years old. |
| 21:17.25 | jhutchins | Knaldgas: I usualy try to test my assumptions to prove that they're correct. That way I can document the process without relying on my own authority. |
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| 21:18.20 | Knaldgas | jhutchins, local scp was as fast as the cp command: 5.6s on server and 2.3s on client |
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| 21:18.53 | Knaldgas | So that cannot cause the increase to 30s transfer, I think. - Will try a netcat |
| 21:19.12 | smyers | Knaldgas, yeah, try netcat or iperf (or both) |
| 21:19.26 | valdyn | Knaldgas: this is a lan setup right? |
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| 21:20.17 | jhutchins | Knaldgas: It would be interesting to test them with a crossover cable as well. |
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| 21:21.06 | smyers | It as described as a lan, but with more than one switch in the chain where one may be 100Mbit/s |
| 21:21.34 | smyers | where one *link may be... |
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| 21:23.20 | Knaldgas | jhutchins, Now you are getting advanced ;-) |
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| 21:24.03 | smyers | If the interfaces are both gigabit and you don't have a crossover handy, any cable should work. |
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| 21:25.39 | Knaldgas | valdyn, jhutchins: netcat gave the same speed. - I will try a direct connection |
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| 21:26.39 | Knaldgas | going offline for testing |
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| 21:30.03 | CarlGel | (netcatting into IRC is fun!) |
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| 21:31.11 | petn-randall | CarlGel: With TLS_ |
| 21:31.12 | petn-randall | ? |
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| 21:31.54 | CarlGel | I've not tried with TLS |
| 21:32.30 | CarlGel | It's not so much a "useful" thing to do, just a fun little experiment. :| |
| 21:34.34 | petn-randall | CarlGel: I hate it when I do the elliptic curve DSA handshake in my hand, and I miscalculate on the factorisation of the private key. :| |
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| 21:40.05 | blahRus | Did, bash_4.1-3+deb6u1_i386.deb just get pulled from the repos? |
| 21:41.34 | petn-randall | blahRus: It looks like the source got uploaded, but it didn't compile on the buildds yet: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-6271 |
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| 21:42.25 | blahRus | hurm, I got it from http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/b/bash/ |
| 21:42.25 | petn-randall | CarlGel: Just kidding ;). It's a nice exercise though. |
| 21:42.27 | blahRus | but then it was gone |
| 21:42.49 | petn-randall | blahRus: Check the LTS mailing list, maybe there's some news about it. |
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| 21:43.20 | zleap | hi |
| 21:43.25 | zleap | just installed debian :) |
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| 21:43.54 | zleap | how do i know if I am using nouveau drivers |
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| 21:44.32 | user__ | HI guys what command (or neasted commands) do i need to do to have this output https://gist.github.com/fabiomig/c850fd3b341b3eb2483d |
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| 21:45.54 | blahRus | petn-randall: so weird https://lists.debian.org/debian-lts/2014/09/threads.html |
| 21:45.55 | blahRus | nothing |
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| 21:46.56 | heurist | !tell user__ -about crosspost |
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| 21:48.12 | petn-randall | heurist: Where did he crosspost? |
| 21:48.27 | heurist | petn-randall: ##linux |
| 21:48.43 | CarlGel | noeveau or proprietary drivers? I've heard that the proprietary ones are better? |
| 21:49.13 | heurist | CarlGel: the proprietary drivers are pretty good. |
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| 21:49.54 | petn-randall | CarlGel: They work better with stable. They're awful in testing/sid, I've heard, since they often break and lag behind development. If you don't like closed-source, you can always pick the FOSS ones. |
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| 21:50.58 | CarlGel | Sorry, petn-randall, clarify? You mean the noeveau work awful in testing/sid, or proprietary? |
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| 21:52.32 | Knaldgas | valdyn, jhutchins: Right... Direct cable connection: 66 MB/s with scp, 85 MB/s with netcat |
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| 21:52.51 | wallbroken | hi giys |
| 21:52.56 | Knaldgas | Next stop: IT department |
| 21:53.05 | wallbroken | i don't remember how to save alias permanently |
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| 21:53.10 | Knaldgas | Thanks for all your help! |
| 21:53.38 | petn-randall | CarlGel: the noveau drivers work fine, though I've heard they're slower than the closed-source ones. In testing/sid the closed-source drivers work worse because they lag behind development. |
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| 21:54.33 | CarlGel | ah, I see |
| 21:55.39 | Knaldgas | valdyn, jhutchins: Hmm, I've mixed the units, but conclusion is that direct connection appears to work as expected on a 1Gbit/s connection. The company network appears to be at fault... |
| 21:55.52 | zleap | petn-randall, what can i to work out i I am using noveau drivers ? |
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| 21:57.38 | petn-randall | zleap: If you don't have the nvidia drivers installed, you're using nouveau. Debian doesn't install any non-free software by default. |
| 21:58.21 | stealth_ | hey all i'm having trouble with acpi suspending as when i resume the display doesn't return any ideas? |
| 21:58.25 | zleap | ok thanks |
| 21:58.38 | petn-randall | stealth_: Which release and which DE are you running? |
| 21:58.44 | zleap | what is the equivelent of additional drivers like there is on ubuntu |
| 21:58.55 | spacebison | zleap: lspci -k |
| 21:59.08 | zleap | ok thanks |
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| 21:59.29 | zleap | geforce mx 4000 |
| 21:59.36 | zleap | graphics card (this is an old pc) |
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| 22:00.05 | petn-randall | Then the non-free drivers probably don't even support your card anymore. |
| 22:00.22 | zleap | ok |
| 22:00.26 | heurist | user__: awk 'BEGIN {ORS=""} /^IP:/ {print $2" "} /^SITUATION:/ {print $2"\n"}' $file should do it. |
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| 22:02.04 | user__ | heurist, fantastic. thanks _-_ |
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| 22:03.01 | user__ | heurist, could you explain hat the command does? |
| 22:03.17 | user__ | heurist, i see it uses regex |
| 22:03.44 | user__ | heurist, if the word exist in the begin of the line |
| 22:03.44 | stealth_ | I run debian wheezy and i3 as DE, I cannot get my screen to resume after suspending using acpi any help? |
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| 22:04.14 | petn-randall | stealth_: Can you ping or login to the machine when it has resumed? |
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| 22:05.06 | heurist | user__: awk is a text processing program. ORS= tells it not to write a newline between each output. search for IP, print column 2 and a space, search for SITUATION print column 2 and a newline. |
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| 22:05.16 | stealth_ | idk i just as i cannot see anything on my screen when i restart |
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| 22:06.15 | user__ | heurist, awk is part of core? |
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| 22:07.10 | heurist | user__: pretty standard, there are a few awks though, mainly mawk and gawk on linux. gawk can do a lot that mawk (called awk) can not, but is MUCH slower. |
| 22:07.11 | stealth_ | Any ideas on how I can get my screen to display when i resume petn? |
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| 22:08.01 | user__ | heurist, okay, i'm wondering if awk exists on openwrt distro to routers |
| 22:08.11 | user__ | should have |
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| 22:08.55 | Anuska | Hi, i add this http://pastebin.com/AJKZ9k7s in my interfaces ... and i get error when i restart the network: is deprecated becouse... |
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| 22:09.56 | heurist | user__: you would need to check, it is a common tool but may be a bit specialized for vanilla openwrt. look at sed as well, better chance of having that. |
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| 22:10.54 | user__ | heurist, tell me one more thing mate. imagine that i have to ouput only the ips that is authorized from that file. how do you solve it? |
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| 22:12.03 | stealth_ | How do I get my display back as it is a blank screen when I resume from acpi, I run debian wheezy and i3 as my DE any help would be appricated |
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| 22:15.19 | heurist | user__: do you just want the IP? add | awk '/ AUTHORIZED/ {print $1}' to the end (after the file). if you want the while line then use $0 instead of $1 or user grep. |
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| 22:15.53 | Halma | hello all |
| 22:15.56 | user__ | heurist, yep just the ip |
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| 22:16.23 | heurist | user__: awk 'BEGIN {ORS=""} /^IP:/ {print $2" "} /^SITUATION:/ {print $2"\n"}' temp.txt | awk '/ AUTHORIZED/ {print $1}' |
| 22:16.28 | subleq | How do I get the recent bash security fix on jessie? |
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| 22:17.12 | jen1014 | subleq: do you not have the security repo in your sources.list? |
| 22:17.25 | dimitry7 | hey guys, I don't have the remote ssh host key in my known hosts file and it still connects and does not show the WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED! message |
| 22:17.28 | subleq | jen1014: I do |
| 22:17.32 | dimitry7 | why this might happen? |
| 22:17.33 | heurist | user__: note that is a space between the / and the AUTHORIZED to exclude UNAUTHORIZED |
| 22:17.45 | Halma | i need a command to get -->export CFLAGS="-mtune=generic -Os -pipe" from EXPORT="export CFLAGS="-mtune=generic -Os -pipe"" |
| 22:17.50 | stealth_ | How do I get my display back as it is a blank screen when I resume from acpi, I run debian wheezy and i3 as my DE any help would be appricated |
| 22:18.00 | subleq | jen1014: but I just did an upgrade and didn't get it |
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| 22:18.38 | subleq | https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-6271 says jessie doesn't have it yet, do I just have to wait? |
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| 22:19.14 | user__ | heurist, so, let me see if i understand. on the first awk you ouput authorized and unauthorized ip but before output it you filter with the second one to just show the authorized |
| 22:19.34 | heurist | subleq: yes, jessie and sid do not get support from the debian security team, so they are slower on these updates. |
| 22:19.36 | wallbroken | i don't remember how to save alias permanently |
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| 22:21.08 | heurist | user__: yep, that is a standard unix trick. massage the data to fit, then massage it more. | sends the output of one command to the input of another. |
| 22:21.14 | cafuego | Halma: | cut -d \" -f 2-4 |
| 22:21.46 | user__ | heurist, i thought that | means and |
| 22:22.28 | Halma | cafuego: BIG THANKS |
| 22:22.52 | heurist | user__: things means many things, but | is sometime or, not and. shell has || as or and && as and. |
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| 22:23.06 | joshh20 | Hi, I have 30GB of cache on my RAM currently, and am wondering how long it should take to write to disk on a HDD |
| 22:24.16 | cafuego | joshh20: time dd if=/dev/null of=/some/disk/you/can/wipe bs=1M count=30000 |
| 22:24.31 | joshh20 | Why would I want to do that? |
| 22:24.36 | qmr | cafuego: not really |
| 22:24.45 | qmr | joshh20: 'time sync' |
| 22:24.52 | cafuego | joshh20: that'll write 30GB to disk, will give you a value underestimate. |
| 22:25.00 | Halma | have you all a good day |
| 22:25.25 | joshh20 | root@JCraft-1620v2:~# time sync |
| 22:25.25 | joshh20 | real0m0.193s |
| 22:25.26 | joshh20 | user0m0.000s |
| 22:25.26 | joshh20 | sys0m0.004s |
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| 22:25.33 | joshh20 | Woops |
| 22:25.36 | joshh20 | Always mess that up |
| 22:25.40 | cafuego | qmr: I'm assuming his question was about ramdisk |
| 22:25.42 | qmr | joshh20: what are you getting at / why do you care? I think you may not be understanding things correctly |
| 22:26.01 | teraflops | subleq: do you have any setup vulnerable? as cgi scripts that uses or invoque bash? |
| 22:26.03 | user__ | heurist, you have helped alot. thanks man |
| 22:26.08 | joshh20 | No, I just rsynced a bunch of files to my new machine, but it seems as if the cache is still full |
| 22:26.16 | joshh20 | As if they aren't writing or something |
| 22:26.17 | cafuego | joshh20: Oh, yeah that's fine. |
| 22:26.29 | cafuego | joshh20: They're there in case you're going to access them. |
| 22:26.46 | joshh20 | Ohh, so it is actually written to disk already? |
| 22:26.49 | cafuego | joshh20: They'll get thrown out of ram as that ram is needed for other things. |
| 22:26.49 | heurist | joshh20: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ |
| 22:26.52 | user__ | heurist, i usted to say that linux has solution to everything and i never got a problem that is not solved :D |
| 22:27.31 | user__ | i do not use windows like 4 years ago. (thank god XD) |
| 22:27.36 | cafuego | joshh20: yup, but the kernel keeps the cache just in case. If a file wasn't updated, itll be quicker to read back from there. |
| 22:27.42 | subleq | teraflops: gitolite is vulnerable through SSH_ORIGINAL_COMMAND |
| 22:27.45 | joshh20 | heurist, don't worry I am not that dumb, just worried that it wasn't writing everything |
| 22:27.52 | joshh20 | Ok thanks cafuego |
| 22:27.59 | teraflops | subleq: yes |
| 22:28.17 | heurist | joshh20: if sync returns then it written to disk, or at least the disk cache. |
| 22:28.27 | joshh20 | I am guessing that the systemm will never keep something in memory without writing it to disk first correct? |
| 22:28.51 | somiaj | jhutchins: FUSE is not dependent on gnome or any of that, it is a kernel level driver. Basically it is a layer that other drivers (ntfs, exfat, I think the mac osx file system as well) can talk to. This has allowed more portability of drivers for non linux filesystems. |
| 22:28.52 | cafuego | joshh20: Never say never |
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| 22:28.55 | heurist | joshh20: never is a strong term. |
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| 22:28.59 | joshh20 | Ok sry |
| 22:29.09 | cafuego | joshh20: It's always possible to tune it such that it becomes easier to break or lose data ;-) |
| 22:29.21 | centrx | never say never say never |
| 22:29.47 | joshh20 | Ok I wouldn't do that though |
| 22:29.51 | stealth_ | How do I get my display back as it is a blank screen when I resume from acpi, I run debian wheezy and i3 as my DE any help would be appricated |
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| 22:30.57 | lawsa | chromium-browser says "could not load adobe flash plugin" :( |
| 22:30.58 | cafuego | joshh20: That just leaves the drive firmware, which is likely a very buggy black box of shitty legacy code, so you know.. :-) |
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| 22:31.17 | lawsa | I apt-get upgrade;d the other day...is this a cause-effect relationship? |
| 22:31.44 | lawsa | I have Shockwave Flash 11.2 r999 |
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| 22:32.26 | lawsa | but I have pepperflash 1.4~bpo60+1 |
| 22:32.32 | lawsa | (shrug) |
| 22:32.44 | somiaj | lawsa: yes, chroimum as of a few release ago (been in debian for a few months now) no longer supports the napi (netscape api) for plugins as it considers it insecure |
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| 22:33.16 | somiaj | lawsa: oh so you do have the pepper flash plugin using the pepper api, maybe rerun the script that it comes with to download the most recent pepperflash |
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| 22:33.45 | lawsa | somiaj: oh... |
| 22:33.48 | somiaj | lawsa: /usr/sbin/update-pepperflashplugin-nonfree -- run that binary and see if updating pepperflash works (this won't happen automatically) |
| 22:33.51 | lawsa | somiaj: It'll load on some sites? |
| 22:33.55 | lawsa | okay, thanks |
| 22:34.22 | lawsa | somiaj: install, uninstall, or status? ^_^ |
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| 22:35.16 | joshh20 | Lol cafuego yes that is probably true |
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| 22:35.20 | somiaj | lawsa: status will tell you what is installed and if there is an update avaiable, install will just get the update |
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| 22:36.06 | lawsa | somiaj: thanks |
| 22:36.09 | Geppie | wavin |
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| 22:36.17 | lawsa | what does it mean that it works sometimse? |
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| 22:38.48 | lawsa | For instance, some youtube videos play, some don't. |
| 22:38.57 | lawsa | It seems to be reproducible...is something different about some of them? |
| 22:39.35 | somiaj | lawsa: are you sure you are using flash for the youtube plugins, as opposed to html5? |
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| 22:45.06 | Geppie | lawsa, the problem isnt debian, google has command, the servers that run youtube are getting over burderned and/or goin to complete crap |
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| 22:45.49 | Geppie | in youtube's early to mid days, it ran fine |
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| 22:52.42 | lawsa | somiaj: no, no idea! |
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| 22:57.48 | s7r | how can i see in debian (via console) the usage per each CPU core ? top / htop will only show me total usage per CPU, not individually per core |
| 22:58.48 | heurist | s7r: press 1 |
| 22:59.12 | s7r | ? |
| 22:59.43 | heurist | s7r: in top, press 1 to toggle cpu view |
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| 23:02.56 | dimitry7 | hey guys, I don't have the remote ssh host key in my known hosts file and it still connects and does not show the WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED! message |
| 23:02.58 | dimitry7 | why this might happen? |
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| 23:05.13 | cafuego | dimitry7: It the key in the global hosts file? |
| 23:05.25 | cafuego | Is it in dns? |
| 23:05.28 | dimitry7 | besides. If I do ssh localhost, the following key appears: 9b:e3:7a:39:2c:20:96:5e:ea:5b:63:f3:dd:1e:b1:e6, and if I ssh-keygen -l -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key.pub, then the key is different: fa:11:83:40:05:5a:c8:39:59:9e:3d:91:eb:1b:b5:53 |
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| 23:05.41 | dimitry7 | cafuego, in the dns? |
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| 23:05.55 | dimitry7 | how can I test that? |
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| 23:06.26 | cafuego | dig SSFP hostname |
| 23:06.30 | cafuego | SSHFP even |
| 23:06.33 | dimitry7 | ok |
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| 23:06.51 | dimitry7 | .10800INSOAa.root-servers.net. nstld.verisign-grs.com. 2014092401 1800 900 604800 86400 |
| 23:07.09 | dimitry7 | cafuego, the issue is with my ssh |
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| 23:07.22 | dimitry7 | I am working with the IP, not the name |
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| 23:07.27 | dimitry7 | and it's internal |
| 23:07.38 | cafuego | You could ssh -v -v -v and see what it thinks it's doing |
| 23:07.47 | dimitry7 | okay |
| 23:07.51 | Berzerker | so...my version of bash is apparently still vulnerable, but seems to be later than the patched version? |
| 23:07.56 | Berzerker | I'm on jessie, if that matters at all |
| 23:08.20 | dimitry7 | it says: debug1: Server host key: ECDSA 9b:e3:7a:39:2c:20:96:5e:ea:5b:63:f3:dd:1e:b1:e6 |
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| 23:08.47 | dimitry7 | cafuego, but why the /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key.pub is different? |
| 23:08.48 | cafuego | Berzerker: Timely security updates are provided for stable. |
| 23:09.01 | Berzerker | so jessie's just isn't out yet |
| 23:09.04 | heurist | Berzerker: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-6271 says jessie is still not updated, but sid is, so jessie may be soon |
| 23:09.11 | Berzerker | interesting |
| 23:09.12 | cafuego | dimitry7: Your're getting th DSA key and looking at the RSA key. |
| 23:09.15 | Berzerker | k thanks |
| 23:09.24 | dimitry7 | ohhh |
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| 23:10.34 | dimitry7 | Oh yes... it matches now... but you see, a while ago it showed the WARNING: REMOTE HOST IDENTIFICATION HAS CHANGED! message |
| 23:10.47 | dimitry7 | now it does not show it, and I havent added that key to my hosts file |
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| 23:12.18 | cafuego | dimitry7: Usually it gets added automatically if you choose to connect |
| 23:12.20 | dimitry7 | cafuego, I see the problem... originally the SSH used ECDSA to authenticate, |
| 23:12.37 | dimitry7 | and if I disabled it... it shows the message... I enable it, and everything goes OK! |
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| 23:13.05 | dimitry7 | Only I had to do is to comment this: #HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_ecdsa_key |
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| 23:13.19 | dimitry7 | but the key is in fact there but not the RSA, but the ECDSA instead |
| 23:13.54 | Z1T1TTT | I am using openvpn but I need to manually connect from a terminal. any way to make it automatic ? |
| 23:14.04 | dimitry7 | cafuego, any good site to learn about keys? I ALWAYS get confused :'( |
| 23:14.04 | heurist | dimitry7: ecdsa is replacing rsa these days. note that ecdsa is not the same as dsa |
| 23:14.19 | dimitry7 | heurist, oohh... didn't know that... |
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| 23:14.34 | dimitry7 | so it makes no sense if I uncomment #HostKey /etc/ssh/ssh_host_rsa_key |
| 23:14.38 | dimitry7 | or the dsa one |
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| 23:15.33 | heurist | dimitry7: the defaults should be correct. |
| 23:16.16 | DESCO | hi, how do i enable gdm3 on boot? |
| 23:16.20 | dimitry7 | heurist, as default ECDSA was commented... but it still used it as default... (this is on OpenBSD), Debian 6 is the client. |
| 23:17.14 | heurist | dimitry7: they should all be used by default, you only need to fiddle with the config if you want to change the filenames for the keys used or disable them. |
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| 23:18.40 | dimitry7 | heurist, so it means I can connect using either ECDSA, RSA, or DSA and all of them should be enabled on remote host? |
| 23:19.12 | lawsa | somiaj: You think that some of the pages are html5 and some are flash? |
| 23:19.31 | centrx | lawsa, That does happen with Youtube, but that implies you don't have a working flash installation |
| 23:20.06 | heurist | dimitry7: generally yes. your client might not support some, so it falls back to other algorithms. ecdsa is still considered new. (as in only a few years old). |
| 23:20.20 | somiaj | lawsa: it depends on your youtube account settings, and not all videos are html5 compadable so youtube will give you some using html5 and others using flash. Again this depends on your account settings. |
| 23:20.40 | dimitry7 | heurist, ooooh.... great!. Actually I only connect from Debian 6 or 7 hosts. But great point, thank you man!!! |
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| 23:22.12 | dimitry7 | The KeyRegenerationInterval parameter renews the host key? |
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| 23:23.21 | heurist | dimitry7: the ephemeral server server key, which only last a few seconds. not the host key. |
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| 23:24.52 | Z1T1TTT | NO patch for human stupidity?? |
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| 23:25.06 | cafuego | dimitry7: and RSA is definitely backdoored by the US government. |
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| 23:26.08 | Z1T1TTT | cant be. experct r making audits. RSA must be clean piece since there is no scandal |
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| 23:27.58 | dimitry7 | cafuego, Yeah, the only thing I've known is not backdoored is AES (but still who knows!)... |
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| 23:47.01 | lawsa | Well, I am indeed having trouble with my flash installation ... |
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| 23:47.14 | lawsa | I go to https://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/, and it says 'couldn't load plugin'. |
| 23:47.23 | lawsa | I've run the update-pepper... --uninstall and --install. |
| 23:47.25 | lawsa | no errors |
| 23:47.46 | lawsa | Do I Need to restart chromium? |
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| 23:48.06 | mtn | lawsa: both the normal flashplugin installer and pepperflash installer are in the repos and you can use the debian tools to install |
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| 23:48.37 | lawsa | mtn: I think I've done that. dpkg -i pepper shows installed |
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| 23:49.09 | mtn | lawsa: that is not the name of the package. |
| 23:49.18 | lawsa | mtn: it's pepperflashplugin ? |
| 23:49.44 | lawsa | crap, it's dpkg -l pepper* |
| 23:49.50 | mtn | lawsa: something like that. is it actually installed? if so, what is your problem? |
| 23:50.14 | lawsa | mtn: My problem is that, after launching Chromium-browser and navigating to a page that uses flash, Chromium says "cannot open plugin" |
| 23:50.19 | mtn | lawsa: test your flash install here: http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ |
| 23:50.28 | lawsa | yup, that's what I posted just above ^_^ |
| 23:50.43 | lawsa | "Could not load Shockwave Flash." |
| 23:51.17 | heurist | lawsa: apt-get install pepperflashplugin-nonfree |
| 23:51.26 | mtn | lawsa: oops, so I see, now ;) so, is pepperflash installed or not? |
| 23:51.40 | mtn | lawsa: you have to use backports, I believe |
| 23:51.54 | lawsa | heurist: "pepperflashplugin-nonfree is already the newest version." |
| 23:52.03 | lawsa | mtn: it's installed :D |
| 23:52.10 | lawsa | mtn: I remember something about that... |
| 23:52.16 | mtn | lawsa: ok, good. did you restart chromium?\ |
| 23:52.19 | Freeaqingme | Hi folks; I'm busy setting up some lxc containers (yes, that seems to be a pleonasm...), and am using the veth networking settings. Networking itself works fine, but I'm noticing the loopback in the container seems to be shared with that of the host. How could I separate those two? |
| 23:52.20 | lawsa | I haven't messed with this for a while. I |
| 23:52.25 | lawsa | mtn: yes, many times, but I'll do it again :) |
| 23:52.42 | lawsa | mtn: Everything was fine, I think, until a recent apt-get upgrade; :( |
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| 23:52.55 | mtn | lawsa: which version of debian? |
| 23:52.57 | lawsa | yup, deb http://... wheezy-backports main non-free ... |
| 23:53.08 | lawsa | mtn: 3.2.60-1 |
| 23:53.22 | abrotman | 3.2.60-1 isn't a version of Debian |
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| 23:53.53 | heurist | lawsa: pepperflashplugin-nonfree is in contrib though. not main or non-free |
| 23:54.09 | lawsa | heurist: that's there, too ! (left it out in elipsis) |
| 23:54.37 | lawsa | hmm, I get an error, "no D-BUS daemon running"... |
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| 23:55.14 | lawsa | running with dbus-launch |
| 23:55.15 | lawsa | hey! |
| 23:55.35 | lawsa | I ran chromium-browser from terminal and it says "Failed to load Pepper module from ... cannot open shared object file: Permission denied" |
| 23:55.38 | lawsa | yay! |
| 23:55.47 | lawsa | What should the permissions on that file be? |
| 23:56.02 | lawsa | well...it's rw-r--r-- right now, which should be fine? |
| 23:56.30 | heurist | lawsa: what file? you elided the important bit of that message. |
| 23:56.34 | lawsa | oh yeah |
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| 23:56.44 | lawsa | /usr/lib/pepperflashplugin-nonfree/libpepflashplayer.so |
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| 23:56.52 | G66k | is there any tools to play swf files ? |
| 23:56.59 | lawsa | G66k: pepper flash? ^_^ |
| 23:57.08 | heurist | lawsa: -rw-r--r--. 1 root root 17268256 Jun 5 00:46 /usr/lib/pepperflashplugin-nonfree/libpepflashplayer.so |
| 23:57.24 | lawsa | heurist: my size is 16998264, but otherwise same... |
| 23:57.34 | lawsa | I would think r is good enough... |
| 23:57.44 | lawsa | well, this gives me something else to search onlien |
| 23:57.50 | heurist | lawsa: yes r is all you want |
| 23:57.55 | G66k | ls: cannot access /usr/lib/pepperflashplugin-nonfree/: No such file or directory |
| 23:57.56 | jelly-home | heurist, lawsa: pepperflash was broken in debian stable, the one from Chrome 37.0.2062.120 is built against wrong libc6 version |
| 23:58.15 | lawsa | jelly-home: Awesome! give me the codez ^_^ |
| 23:58.17 | G66k | lawsa, how i can get this ? |
| 23:58.28 | lawsa | G66k: apt-get install pepperflash-nonfree or something |
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| 23:58.42 | lawsa | G66k: https://wiki.debian.org/PepperFlashPlayer/Installing |
| 23:58.43 | jelly-home | lawsa: it's still broken as far as I know |
| 23:58.43 | heurist | jelly-home: thanks, fortunately I do not use flash, so I never noticed. (: |
| 23:59.07 | lawsa | heurist: Whoa, no flash? How do you watch funny cat videos? |
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| 23:59.38 | lawsa | jelly-home: So it was a big mistake to apt-get upgrade the other day :'( |
| 23:59.39 | heurist | lawsa: all my cats are html5 equipped for years. |
