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| 00:00.35 | lawsa | http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=410805 |
| 00:00.36 | lawsa | heurist: :( |
| 00:01.15 | lawsa | One guy says "download stable chrome deb package from website, use alien on it to convert it to tar, extract files, copy and replace libpepflashplayer.so from the stable build" |
| 00:01.20 | lawsa | jelly-home: Do you know which website I should use? |
| 00:01.22 | heurist | lawsa: I have seen a lot of things being built against GLIBC_2.14 these says. |
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| 00:03.06 | jelly-home | lawsa: wait until google fixes it |
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| 00:04.06 | lawsa | jelly-home: cool, thanks |
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| 00:37.36 | devhen | is a bash fix incoming for debian 6 ? |
| 00:38.48 | lawsa | devhen: What's wrong with bash_ |
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| 00:39.20 | jelly-home | devhen: yes. Are you subscribed to https://lists.debian.org/debian-lts-announce/ ? |
| 00:39.43 | jelly-home | devhen: read /msg dpkg squeeze-lts |
| 00:40.37 | heurist | devhen: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-6271 says squeeze (lts) is fixed |
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| 00:44.01 | dondelelcaro | though apparently the upstream fix to that particular exploit doesn't completely fix the problem. |
| 00:44.26 | dondelelcaro | (there will almost certainly be another CVE and bash update in the next few days) |
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| 00:45.19 | _devhen | nvm, i enabled the squeeze-lts repo and its patched now |
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| 00:46.50 | dondelelcaro | (see #762761 if anyone cares) |
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| 01:00.46 | doerteDev | ohai... who has a link of borked bash versions in current apt mirrors? :-/ |
| 01:01.54 | jelly-home | a link? |
| 01:02.42 | doerteDev | or knows which versions are good to go |
| 01:03.44 | waynr | doerteDev: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-6271 |
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| 01:05.02 | doerteDev | aaaah thanks! |
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| 01:24.22 | jj2 | How are people dealing with debian squeeze-lts not having php 5.2 support any more. What does "limited" mean in the warning message for it? |
| 01:25.03 | jj2 | drupal 6 for example which is still supported is dependent on php 5.2 and doesn't work well with 5.3 or at all really with 5.4 |
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| 01:25.42 | rryoumaa | i try gksu -u myaccount iceweasel and it works. i try trobrowser-launcher and it works. but i try gksu -u myaccount trobrowser-launcher and it loads but silently does not launch. there are no errors in stder or /var/log. i am aware of the recent bug with similar results, and upgraded it. |
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| 01:26.17 | rryoumaa | anything else i can provide? |
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| 01:30.59 | rryoumaa | i tried "sux - myaccount" instead of gksu. i got these errors: http://sprunge.us/IWMb |
| 01:31.04 | doerteDev | wow |
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| 01:31.32 | doerteDev | I managed to deinstall apt by upgrading dpkg Oo |
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| 01:32.21 | rryoumaa | ok, i tried a few things, and doing sux from regular user does seem to work |
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| 01:46.12 | xii24 | How are people dealing with debian squeeze-lts not having php 5.2 support any more? Or at least "limited" support. What does that mean in the warning message for it anyway? I have a content management system that requires 5.2 and has 3+ months of support left. but... no distribution to run it on? it's weird. how do i deal with this? |
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| 01:46.52 | abrotman | upgrade from squeeze |
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| 01:47.20 | xii24 | abrotman: last time I tried doing that everything broke... but even if it hadn't wheezy doesn't have php 5.2 support either |
| 01:47.32 | narcarsiss | I cant seem to find what Kernel 7.6 is Using. Can someone advise? |
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| 01:48.03 | sakang | I think 3.2 |
| 01:48.44 | narcarsiss | Bumma, So i take it i need Jessi for Over 3.10? As my laptop APU support is missing Prior 3.10 |
| 01:50.15 | heurist | narcarsiss: wheezy backports has 3.14 |
| 01:50.43 | narcarsiss | Chasing a First Installation. medium before i download @ heurist. |
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| 01:51.20 | narcarsiss | The reason is I have no backlight in 3.2 Kernel and cant see my Screen at all. |
| 01:51.38 | narcarsiss | so i would be configuring blind :| |
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| 01:52.44 | heurist | narcarsiss: you may need to use one of the testing install images, maybe one with firmware on it. or install over ssh, or do an automated install. |
| 01:53.46 | sakang | think about it, almost all users now use lcd/led monitor. then everyone should have complained already |
| 01:54.06 | narcarsiss | I was trying to do it the lazy way, (usb>install>code) type thing. Seems i might actually have to put in effort. |
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| 01:54.56 | abrotman | narcarsiss: it still has the same vesrion 7.5 did, more or less .. |
| 01:55.04 | abrotman | dpkg: tell narcarsiss about bdo kernel |
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| 02:04.58 | ant_sunrise | hello all |
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| 02:06.09 | ant_sunrise | how to see room list ect? |
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| 02:06.38 | themill | dpkg: tell ant_sunrise about alis |
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| 02:06.53 | ant_sunrise | no worries. i'm on webpage now. i'll figure it out.t hanks |
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| 02:08.32 | Reelax | Hi, where is the wireless lan setting saved ? |
| 02:09.42 | narcarsiss | etc/networkmanager? |
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| 02:10.45 | narcarsiss | Reelax |
| 02:10.54 | narcarsiss | Reelax: |
| 02:10.59 | Reelax | narcarsiss: no, where is the wireless name and password saved ? |
| 02:11.01 | narcarsiss | Damn IRC program all gay |
| 02:11.01 | catsup | i'm looking for web-based bug tracking software. i see bugzilla is not packaged for debian anymore. i couldn't find anything else either (aside from trac, which isn't what i want). anyone know a packaged alternative to installing bugzilla from source? |
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| 02:12.07 | themill | catsup: rule (1) all bug trackers are crap; rule (2) work out what level of crapness you're prepared to put up with. If the answer to (2) is that chasing updates for CVEs all the time is ok, then mantis works. |
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| 02:14.54 | catsup | hm, that's php :/ |
| 02:15.16 | themill | see rule (2) ;) |
| 02:15.18 | abrotman | dpkg: tell narcarsiss about gay |
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| 02:16.22 | catsup | maybe i'll just use trac |
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| 02:16.55 | themill | Probably my least-favourite bug tracker but whatever works for you ;) |
| 02:17.12 | themill | no, least favourite would be sf.net... that comes in second. |
| 02:17.17 | ant_sunrise | @bar(input):button1 |
| 02:17.18 | Reelax | is there config file updated when i login to a wireless netowork ? i would like to save it in debian-live so it auto connects to internet when booted. |
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| 02:18.17 | heurist | Reelax: probably wpa_supplicant.conf somewhere in /etc/ |
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| 02:18.56 | Lolocafera | I remember watching a video about BugZilla. Early on, it said "So you want to use BugZilla? That's a lie! Nobody WANTS to use BugZilla." |
| 02:19.02 | catsup | i just realized that mantis actually _is_ a bug |
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| 02:20.28 | catsup | after i searched for 'mantis' and saw this http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/04/Large_brown_mantid_close_up_nohair.jpg |
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| 02:20.52 | slurpymcdurpy | Also a style of kung foo :) |
| 02:21.06 | slurpymcdurpy | named after the bug. |
| 02:23.09 | Lolocafera | Nothing beats Hamster Kung Fu |
| 02:25.36 | Reelax | found wlan settings under : /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections |
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| 02:25.48 | Lolocafera | Anyway, I'm not here just to make funny (?) remarks. I actually have an issue that I'd like to get help with. |
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| 02:32.18 | themill | catsup: it's a bug that eats bugs :) |
| 02:32.47 | grubles | https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8365158 |
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| 02:34.04 | Lolocafera | So, I'm trying to get the GPU of my new computer to work. It's a GeForce 840M. First problem: when I run nvidia-detect, I get "No NVIDIA GPU detected." as an answer. |
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| 02:35.06 | Lolocafera | And yet when I run lspci -nn I get this line "01:00.0 3D controller [0302]: NVIDIA Corporation Device [10de:1341] (rev a2)" |
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| 02:36.03 | Lolocafera | I looked it up, and found confirmation that 10de:1341 corresponds to Nvidia's GeForce 840M. |
| 02:39.58 | ant_sunrise | is there much reason to use gpu's if you don't game? |
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| 02:42.27 | relaxed | Lolocafera: the 840m is supported by nvidia-glx |
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| 02:42.46 | relaxed | Lolocafera: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/driverResults.aspx/77525/en-us |
| 02:43.24 | cafuego | ant_sunrise: 3d desktop effects |
| 02:44.45 | Lolocafera | relaxed, thanks |
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| 03:06.01 | bbtech | I'm using xfce and I don't see an option to hibernate. I only see logout. Do I need to install something to get a hibernate/shutdown/restart button? |
| 03:07.59 | narcarsiss | Debian dont support Secureboot, or Detect windows 8.1 using it :/ (presses ok as feeling like a challenge) |
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| 03:22.27 | Lolocafera | I found this on the debian wiki: "Switch to a console as root (not a terminal emulator in X)" |
| 03:22.36 | Lolocafera | how do I do that? |
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| 03:37.17 | Lolocafera | I installed nvidia-glx but during install I've been told I'd have to edit the xorg.conf file manually. But the file doesn't exist. |
| 03:37.46 | Lolocafera | I looked up what to do about it and I found this: https://wiki.debian.org/Xorg |
| 03:39.01 | Lolocafera | But when I tried to apply what's explained under "What if I do not have an xorg config file?" it didn't work, because /etc/init.d/gdm doesn't exist on my system. |
| 03:39.44 | Lolocafera | What am I supposed to do? |
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| 03:41.45 | Lolocafera | Waaaaaaaait a minute... |
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| 03:45.14 | CarlGel | (do figure out the answer and do tell please, I imagine I'll be running into that issue tomorrow when I install those drivers) |
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| 03:46.21 | narcarsiss | lolocafera: Install a GUI, Apt-get Install GDM3 or something like tha |
| 03:46.23 | narcarsiss | t |
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| 03:49.39 | jt__ | hey, we have an old Debian 5.0. Any chance I can grab the updated/patched bash? |
| 03:52.08 | centrx | jt__, You should probably upgrade to squeeze-lts, bash isn't the only package that has had security updates |
| 03:53.06 | centrx | jt__, but yes, you could apply the patch to the lenny source package, it might require significant changes to the patch to work with that version of bash |
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| 03:54.43 | centrx | jt__, Also Debian squeeze and newer is invulnerable to this particular attack in many circumstances, because Debian squeeze and newer use dash for system shell scripts |
| 03:55.05 | Lolocafera | How do I switch to a console? |
| 03:55.21 | Lolocafera | I looked it up, didn't find anything |
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| 03:55.47 | centrx | Lolocafera, Where are you now? |
| 03:56.18 | Lolocafera | I'm not sure I understand the question |
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| 03:56.26 | centrx | Lolocafera, Are you installing? |
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| 03:56.46 | Lolocafera | Nope, I have installed the driver already* |
| 03:56.58 | centrx | Lolocafera, If you are in the GUI, there should be a "Terminal" listed in your programs menu, under Accessories or System Tools or something |
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| 03:57.18 | centrx | Lolocafera, You can also switch from X to a tty with Alt-F2 etc |
| 03:57.42 | centrx | Lolocafera, Ctrl-Alt-F2 etc that is |
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| 03:59.19 | jt__ | centrx: unfortunately, I can upgrade the OS |
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| 03:59.33 | jt__ | just want to install the update the bash |
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| 04:04.09 | Lolocafera | Meh, it failed, no xorg.conf was generated |
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| 04:05.39 | Louis | Hi - Does anyone know when the bash update is being pushed out for Debian repos? |
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| 04:07.52 | dondelelcaro | Louis: it already has been |
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| 04:08.15 | dondelelcaro | Lolocafera: you shouldn't need an xorg.conf for most configurations |
| 04:08.31 | Louis | dondelelcaro, any idea why it isn't picked up with an apt-get update + apt-get upgrade then? |
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| 04:09.59 | Lolocafera | dondelelcaro, I've been explicitly told I needed one during the installation of nvidia.glx |
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| 04:12.10 | Lolocafera | I've been told that I had to manually edit it |
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| 04:19.08 | dondelelcaro | Louis: which mirror are you using? |
| 04:19.26 | dondelelcaro | Lolocafera: ah; you'll need one for that, but it only has to have the nvidia section in it |
| 04:19.54 | dondelelcaro | Lolocafera: but in any event, follow the instructions here: http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
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| 04:20.54 | Louis | dondelelcaro, when I run apt-get update I see: ftp.us.debian.org, security.debian.org and ftp.us.debian.org/debian |
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| 04:21.39 | dondelelcaro | Louis: and what does apt-cache policy bash; say? |
| 04:21.44 | Lolocafera | dondelelcaro, hah, I should have guessed I'd have yet again to look into the backports. I'm starting to think I should have directly installed Jessie. |
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| 04:22.52 | dondelelcaro | Lolocafera: eh, the backports are actually pretty easy to use and install |
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| 04:24.14 | Louis | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:24.14 | Louis | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:24.15 | Louis | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:24.15 | Louis | <PROTECTED> |
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| 04:24.28 | Louis | 3 lines <_< sigh |
| 04:24.35 | dondelelcaro | Louis: you're running squeeze. You need squeeze-lts |
| 04:24.39 | dondelelcaro | !squeeze-lts |
| 04:24.40 | dpkg | Volunteer-provided security support for Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" will continue until 2016-02-06 for a limited set of packages for i386 and amd64. An appropriate line for your sources.list is «deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ squeeze-lts main». See also the «check-support-status» command from the debian-security-support package and https://wiki.debian.org/LTS for more information. #debian-lts on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 04:28.00 | Lolocafera | Okay, now I'm gonna restart, hopefully it will work |
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| 04:29.25 | sigtau | Quick question; I was just about to make the jump over to the latest Debian build from Windows now that all of my main tools have native Linux builds and I heard about that bug in bash... is that still a thing with wheezy? or should I just use the netinstall to be safe? or is it fixed across the board? |
| 04:29.58 | Louis | dondelelcaro, thank you very much :) |
| 04:30.32 | dondelelcaro | Louis: no problem |
| 04:30.52 | dondelelcaro | sigtau: wheezy has the first set of patches, but there is another bug for it |
| 04:31.05 | dondelelcaro | sigtau: however, unless you're running a webserver, it's probably not remotely exploitable |
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| 04:36.49 | binaryhermit | oh (censored)... my Raspberry Pi has a web server on it and is running wheezy (well, raspbian wheezy). How affected am I? |
| 04:37.49 | binaryhermit | assuming that raspbian wheezy is just debian wheezy, compiled for ARMv6 with hard float |
| 04:38.03 | sigtau | dondelelcaro: I run an IRCd on three different VPSes running wheezy x64 |
| 04:38.08 | sigtau | are those vulnerable? |
| 04:38.23 | sigtau | er, well, "exploitable" per-se |
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| 04:40.29 | dondelelcaro | binaryhermit: if people can run cgi scripts, you're vulnerable. |
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| 04:40.55 | dondelelcaro | sigtau: dunno. If people can manage to run any shell command and control any environmental variables, yes. |
| 04:41.09 | dondelelcaro | sigtau: but you might as well upgrade; it's pretty trivial |
| 04:41.10 | binaryhermit | would they be able to do that on a stock lighttpd install? |
| 04:41.23 | sigtau | alright. what's the apt command for the update? |
| 04:41.30 | sigtau | i'm a bit rusty |
| 04:41.31 | dondelelcaro | sigtau: apt-get update; apt-get upgrade; |
| 04:41.36 | sigtau | thanks. |
| 04:41.42 | binaryhermit | though as I'm the only user I'm probably OK |
| 04:41.43 | dondelelcaro | sigtau: assuming you have security.debian.org in your sources.list |
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| 04:41.54 | sigtau | I haven't modified the stock sources.list. |
| 04:42.12 | dondelelcaro | sigtau: it should be in the stock one, but you can always check with apt-cache policy; |
| 04:42.23 | dondelelcaro | binaryhermit: yeah, if you haven't written any CGIs, you're probably OK. |
| 04:42.45 | dondelelcaro | (but in general, it's best to upgrade) |
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| 04:43.14 | sigtau | PHP's a pretty big clusterf**k as it is but none of the scripts I've written in apache/php even use shell resources, just what's built into php |
| 04:43.25 | binaryhermit | hmm, apparently the university of chicago's mirror is (for lack of a better word) borked |
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| 04:45.22 | cesurasean | trying to start an openvpn server, and debian spits out; siocaddrt: file exists |
| 04:45.29 | cesurasean | how do i fix that on wheezy? |
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| 04:47.22 | yates | is there documentation for creating your own package (.deb?) as well as creating your apt repository? |
| 04:47.52 | dondelelcaro | yates: yes |
| 04:49.00 | dondelelcaro | yates: https://wiki.debian.org/IntroDebianPackaging and https://wiki.debian.org/HowToSetupADebianRepository FE. |
| 04:49.25 | yates | dondelelcaro: thank you. |
| 04:49.33 | dondelelcaro | np |
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| 04:49.58 | cesurasean | anyone? |
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| 04:53.47 | Lolocafera | Well, that worked poorly |
| 04:53.53 | binaryhermit | sort of off-topic, but i assume CVE-2014-7169 ( https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-7169 ) isn't just a Debian bug? |
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| 05:23.26 | awc737 | I thought it just meant I could add optional packages from testing |
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| 05:32.12 | markc | hi, what is the best approach to fix the DSA-3032-1 bash vulnerabilty in squeeze (I can't update to wheezy)? |
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| 05:34.15 | Reelax | my debian is set to autologin. How can i start teamviewer after that ? |
| 05:34.33 | Lolocafera | sigtau, what's the exact message you get? |
| 05:34.35 | Reelax | i don't wanna put it into /etc/init.d and run as root |
| 05:34.50 | sigtau | Lolocafera: I figured it out, was a firewall issue. |
| 05:34.58 | Lolocafera | ah okay |
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| 05:56.51 | swulf-- | Will lenny be getting a bash patch? If not, is there a .deb that should be installable on lenny without (much) conflict? |
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| 06:00.36 | markc | same bash package update question for squeeze too, especially the "without (much) conflict" part... google has been no help |
| 06:02.08 | swulf-- | I guess the next best thing is to install the source from apt, apply the patch, build |
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| 06:06.07 | g0rd0n | hi there... will there be an update to the bash package for squeeze? |
| 06:06.14 | g0rd0n | cause it is vulnerable as well |
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| 06:08.08 | cesurasean | after an openvpn connection is established, my ssh drops. anyone have any idea how to fix this? |
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| 06:09.51 | cafuego | cesurasean: don't route all traffic through openvpn OR wait to ssh until openvpn is running. |
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| 06:30.15 | Reelax | i have team viewer installed, there is already a daemon in init.d but it still doesnt pop the actual teamviewer window, so it doesnt actually start. What can i do to start it and pop the window ? |
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| 06:37.27 | civillian | no update for bash in jessie yet? |
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| 06:40.50 | topi`_ | I'm trying to set up a custom Debian repository (for building our custom SD images) |
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| 06:41.07 | r3n1c0n | hi |
| 06:41.13 | topi`_ | there are many tools for setting/managing Debian repositories - any ideas which of them are "current"? |
| 06:41.21 | topi`_ | or even "recommended" |
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| 06:41.46 | topi`_ | basically we want to mirror a small subset of upstream Debian packages (a core set) and then have some modified packages of our own |
| 06:41.47 | g0rd0n | civillian: not even for squeeze :( |
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| 06:41.52 | dean[h] | Morning. So what do those of us on squeeze do regarding the patch? |
| 06:42.10 | g0rd0n | dean[h]: heh i am here for the same reason :) |
| 06:42.24 | topi`_ | which patch? |
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| 06:42.32 | g0rd0n | all my machines are on wheezy, except one, which still is squeeze |
| 06:42.35 | dean[h] | The one which fixes bash |
| 06:42.36 | g0rd0n | topi`_: i suppose he means bash |
| 06:42.37 | civillian | g0rd0n: apparently the fixed squeeze version is 4.1-3+deb6u1 |
| 06:42.47 | dean[h] | Let's hope we both figure a solution. I have the unfortunate task of looking after about 15 squeeze boxes, even though I'm not a sysadmin |
| 06:43.03 | topi`_ | use zsh ;) |
| 06:43.03 | topi`_ | sorry |
| 06:43.43 | r3n1c0n | Wot is Shellshock the shell bug? |
| 06:43.49 | civillian | yeah |
| 06:43.52 | civillian | new buzzword |
| 06:43.55 | g0rd0n | civillian: doesnt appear to be on security.debian.org though |
| 06:44.11 | g0rd0n | dean[h]: at least you were not vulnerable to heartbleed :) |
| 06:44.27 | civillian | g0rd0n: hmm. just looking at https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-6271 which loads very slowly at the moment |
| 06:44.36 | dean[h] | g0rd0n: we were :> |
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| 06:44.52 | g0rd0n | backport? |
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| 06:46.04 | topi`_ | are any other systems than Squeeze vulnerable to Shellshock? |
| 06:46.15 | r3n1c0n | all as i can read |
| 06:46.18 | r3n1c0n | some not |
| 06:46.19 | dean[h] | topi`_: iOS, OSX, android (supposedly) |
| 06:46.35 | g0rd0n | good that i have windows phone lol |
| 06:46.47 | topi`_ | wow, that's a lot of systems, seems like there is some real potential for a worm |
| 06:46.48 | r3n1c0n | The following packages will be upgraded: |
| 06:46.48 | r3n1c0n | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:46.48 | r3n1c0n | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:46.54 | r3n1c0n | its in the update i gues |
| 06:47.30 | dean[h] | there's an upgrade for wheezy, not yet squeeze |
| 06:47.36 | r3n1c0n | ok |
| 06:47.38 | topi`_ | it seems CGI scripting can be affected, what is the mechanism for this? |
| 06:48.08 | r3n1c0n | Setting up bash (4.2+dfsg-0.1+deb7u1) .. ye got the update now |
| 06:48.10 | g0rd0n | apparently cgi scripts can declare system variables usnig bash |
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| 06:48.36 | g0rd0n | so apache with cgi could be an attack vector |
| 06:48.38 | topi`_ | I just ran apt-get update on my ubuntu system, and it seems a new "bash" is coming from there, as well ;) |
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| 06:49.03 | johnny_|_ | Hi, I am sure this has been asked thousand times today... Can I (and how) remove bash from my debian? |
| 06:49.04 | g0rd0n | yeah ubuntu 14.04 got the update, my ubuntu 13.10 box not yet... but that is behind a vpn, not so critical |
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| 06:49.17 | g0rd0n | johnny_|_: you could switch to dash |
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| 06:49.41 | topi`_ | johnny_|_: if you apt-get install dash, and then change all users to use /bin/dash instead of bash, then you're ok |
| 06:49.54 | johnny_|_ | g0rd0n: just symlink bash to /bin/bash? |
| 06:49.55 | topi`_ | I mean, it'd be possible to remove bash |
| 06:50.26 | topi`_ | the symlink will work, but it will make the package management's job much more difficult |
| 06:50.47 | johnny_|_ | g0rd0n: I mean can I just symilink *dash or for that matter any other shell in place of /bin/bash? |
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| 06:50.52 | dean[h] | How is it that this vulnerability can be used remotely? |
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| 06:51.09 | topi`_ | dean[h]: via CGI scripts, I believe |
| 06:51.12 | johnny_|_ | topi`_: thanks, you answered my question. |
| 06:51.14 | themill | bash is an essential package, expect stuff to stop working if you screw over /bin/bash |
| 06:51.29 | dean[h] | Such as topi`_? |
| 06:51.31 | johnny_|_ | themill: that was my initial thought, yes. |
| 06:51.37 | dean[h] | I don't believe I'm running php as cgi anywhere for example |
| 06:51.40 | g0rd0n | johnny_|_: to be honest i dont know, i never switched shell... |
| 06:51.54 | topi`_ | dean[h]: you never know. some well known management software like CPanel use CGI scripts |
| 06:52.13 | dean[h] | None of those are on my boxes, just VPS's |
| 06:52.27 | dean[h] | Is it likely that squeeze will get any patch for the bash, or am i going to have to take my own action? |
| 06:52.31 | dean[h] | *for bash |
| 06:52.51 | topi`_ | straight from the blog: "Fourthly, it's not just web, but other services that are vulnerable, such as the DHCP service reported in the initial advisory" |
| 06:52.54 | johnny_|_ | almost everything is vulnerable (i know this sounds apocaliptic) by I just tried and exported bad variable and then ran 'mail' command which invoked execution. |
| 06:52.59 | civillian | seems ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/b/bash/bash_4.3-9.1_amd64.deb exists, I wonder if that is the patched version (for jessie) |
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| 06:54.04 | themill | it's patched in unstable, not in testing. |
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| 06:55.26 | dean[h] | Okay so here's how those on Squeeze can fix bash: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=8365913 |
| 06:55.33 | civillian | themill: presumably that package would be suitable for unstable and testing? |
| 06:55.40 | themill | yes |
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| 06:56.57 | civillian | themill: so it's just a matter of the Packages.gz needing an update I guess |
| 06:57.26 | civillian | I might try that deb and see what happens |
| 06:57.36 | themill | civillian: well... that happens twice per day anyway for the selection of packages that is in testing. |
| 06:57.43 | g0rd0n | yay ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/b/bash/bash_4.1-3+deb6u1_amd64.deb |
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| 06:58.42 | g0rd0n | have fun, i need to continue working... bye! :) |
| 06:59.41 | r3n1c0n | ye thats the fixed version :D |
| 06:59.43 | r3n1c0n | is away: BRB fixing some relaxsation #! :D |
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| 07:06.39 | BlackBishop | I'm trying to list all files from packages matching "*perl*" and do a checksum on them ( have a problem with a converter from vhd to img and the perl binary craps with illegal instruction), dpkg -L $(dpkg -l "*perl*") yells about the header, is there a way to not print the header and only show the package names ? Is there a better way ? |
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| 07:16.33 | garyserj | I am running postfix smtp server. How can I send an email specifying smtp server? mailx has no -S and sendmail tries to shutdown postfix. And sSMTP doesn't install |
| 07:17.53 | jelly-home | garyserj: what do you mean by "sendmail tries to shutdown postfix"? |
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| 07:18.24 | BlackBishop | dpkg -L $(dpkg-query -W -f '${package}\n' | grep -i perl) looks ok .. but I need it to only show files now .. any ideas ? |
| 07:18.24 | dpkg | ii $(dpkg-query -W -f '${package}\n' | grep -i perl) looks ok .. but I need it to only show files now .. any ideas 1.5-3 ultra s3kr1t #debian package |
| 07:19.31 | themill | BlackBishop: btw have you tried debsums? (I know you're having trouble with perl and debsums is written in perl, but...) |
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| 07:20.27 | BlackBishop | for i in `dpkg -L $(dpkg-query -W -f '${package}\n' | grep -i perl)` ; do if [ -f $i ] ; then md5sum $i ; fi ; done |
| 07:20.40 | BlackBishop | themill: what package is that ? |
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| 07:22.03 | markc | dean[h]: thank you for posting that link :-) |
| 07:22.15 | dean[h] | Np, hope it helps someone |
| 07:22.22 | dean[h] | Upgrading all my boxes now |
| 07:22.23 | themill | BlackBishop: debsums. |
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| 07:24.04 | markc | dean[h]: definitely will help me sleep tonight. As a bonus I also learnt about the squeeze-lts repo! |
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| 07:27.31 | dean[h] | me too ;P |
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| 07:30.39 | [exa] | Hello everyone. It might have already been asked here several times before, but well - is there any ETA for https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-6271 ? Thanks :] |
| 07:30.44 | TomyWork | what do you suggest to use to set up a debian box? (and other linux boxes and potentially other unixes too) |
| 07:31.00 | TomyWork | from the empty hdd, basically |
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| 07:31.06 | TomyWork | automatically |
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| 07:31.40 | Wulf | [exa]: ETA for what? |
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| 07:32.00 | NiLon | [exa] patch is already in repo for that |
| 07:32.26 | binaryhermit | i think that's the newer bug |
| 07:32.48 | binaryhermit | as in the "you idiots didn't fix it right the first time' bug |
| 07:33.13 | binaryhermit | where "idiots" would be the people who maintain bash upstream |
| 07:33.17 | t3ngu | and there are so many people affected by this? |
| 07:33.20 | t3ngu | really? |
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| 07:33.31 | NiLon | not really |
| 07:33.43 | t3ngu | my point :) |
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| 07:34.45 | [exa] | any CGI that goes through bash is vulnerable (I know several setups), and special stuff that messes with shells and/or calls system() (like gitlab, which affects a lot of users imho) is vulnerable |
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| 07:34.56 | garyserj | TomyWork: i'm no expert, but an image i guess |
| 07:35.07 | Wulf | [exa]: yes, and that's bad. What ETA? |
| 07:35.19 | garyserj | or some automated installation option |
| 07:35.26 | t3ngu | [exa]: ok, are these setups open from the internet? |
| 07:35.58 | [exa] | yes, obviously :D keeping them shut down now, waiting for the fix to appear |
| 07:36.11 | t3ngu | obviously is not for everyone :) |
| 07:36.20 | [exa] | ah, there's already fix in stable; I wanted to ask about testing :D |
| 07:36.35 | TomyWork | garyserj yes, i have several options here, but if i name them, religious wars might ensue instead of helpful suggestions :) |
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| 07:37.46 | Svetlana | I broke something with virtual console, it no longer occupies the full screen, like only 80% of width and only 90% of height. I'm not sure where to remind it what the screen resolution is... |
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| 07:38.44 | Psil0Cybin | if i download a .tar.bz2 or what ever and extract it and am using it as a program where is the best place to place it? |
| 07:38.52 | Psil0Cybin | so i can reference to it as an application like as if i installed it from a repo |
| 07:38.53 | Psil0Cybin | ? |
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| 07:44.04 | Svetlana | Psil0Cybin: Hi. |
| 07:44.28 | Svetlana | Psil0Cybin: Is that an installer (i.e. sources to compile) or the build itself? |
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| 07:49.21 | Svetlana | Where did he go now? |
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| 07:57.48 | r3n1c0n | if a program hangs. How do i stop it? i can not see the program in top |
| 07:57.55 | r3n1c0n | its not showing |
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| 07:58.16 | Wulf | r3n1c0n: ps axuwwf|grep program |
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| 07:59.51 | r3n1c0n | Wulf, thx |
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| 08:17.07 | TomyWork | the Wulf goes auwwf |
| 08:17.20 | Wulf | (: |
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| 08:22.52 | lionroars | I just cannot receive any of the XMPP requests from my friends |
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| 08:27.29 | CeBe | is there any information about fixes for http://www.debian.org/security/2014/dsa-3032 for debian squeeze? |
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| 08:29.48 | jelly | CeBe: the fix is in squeeze-lts. /msg dpkg squeeze-lts |
| 08:30.16 | jelly | (the upstream fix my be incomplete are there may be another update in the works) |
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| 08:41.03 | CeBe | jelly: thanks! |
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| 08:42.26 | Svetlana | Ideas on my console question earlier please? |
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| 08:43.38 | rysh | Is the bash version in Jessie (GNU bash, version 4.3.24(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)) vulnreable for this latest remote exploitable bug? CVE-2014-6271 |
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| 08:44.50 | cafuego | rysh: Yes |
| 08:44.50 | jelly | !cve lookup CVE-2014-6271 |
| 08:44.51 | dpkg | Information about the security advisory CVE-2014-6271 may be found at http://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-6271 |
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| 08:44.56 | jelly | rysh: look there ^^ |
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| 08:46.13 | rysh | Meaning that for Jessie there is no fix yet? ... |
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| 08:46.51 | rysh | Maybe need to get the SID version |
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| 08:49.03 | jelly | rysh: testing does not have secuirty support. You may grab it from sid if the version there is fixed, or wait 2-3 days for the package to migrate the normal way |
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| 08:50.26 | rysh | jelly: But I do have a line in my sources.list saying deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main contrib non-free ... |
| 08:50.27 | *** topic/#debian by jelly -> bash vuln: /msg dpkg dsa3032 | wheezy released: /msg dpkg squeeze->wheezy | current point release: /msg dpkg 7.6 | NO FLOOD: /msg dpkg paste | /msg bots NOT people | offtopic: #debian-offtopic | testing/unstable: #debian-next (irc.oftc.net) |
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| 08:50.43 | jelly | rysh: and there's nothing in there. |
| 08:50.59 | rysh | Mmmm ... ok Thanks :-) |
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| 08:54.05 | alipoor90 | Hi , is there any Linux software which make a visual catalog of filesystem tree ? which makes me enable to backup filesystem tree (folders and file names,time stamps,sizes - but without actual data) ? |
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| 09:13.25 | Psil0Cybin | Svetlana: Its just a tar.bz2,that has a executable file, to be exact its sublime text |
| 09:13.27 | Psil0Cybin | i want to link too |
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| 09:16.54 | Svetlana | Psil0Cybin: Ok, http://sublime-text-unofficial-documentation.readthedocs.org/en/latest/getting_started/install.html suggests to put it to /opt/ and symlink from /usr/bin/sublime. |
| 09:17.05 | Psil0Cybin | okay ty :D |
| 09:17.11 | Psil0Cybin | see i never am able to find these things right off the bat. ty |
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| 09:23.40 | Psil0Cybin | Svetlana: can u also somehow quickly provide me with a guie to symlink properly to that location as u stated? |
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| 09:24.15 | useless-eater | jessie didnt patch bash yet it seems :) |
| 09:24.25 | _val_ | Hello guys. Is there any update for the squeeze 6.0.6 on bash? |
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| 09:29.03 | Svetlana | Psil0Cybin: the guide has the command i think |
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| 09:29.26 | Svetlana | Psil0Cybin: "sudo ln -s /opt/Sublime\ Text\ 3/sublime_text /usr/bin/sublime" |
| 09:29.56 | TJ- | For optional packages it would be better to create the sym-link in "/usr/local/bin/" rather than "/usr/bin/" |
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| 09:30.23 | Svetlana | yes i agree |
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| 09:39.48 | bumbar_ | i have a script that would it to run as cronjob every minute. crontab -e then type location to that script? |
| 09:41.12 | _val_ | guys, anyone any hint on my question? Wheezy 7.2 updates well.. but not on squeeze 6.0.6 |
| 09:41.49 | shay_shay_ | we're supposed to guess what your question is? like jeopardy? |
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| 09:43.53 | jelly | dpkg, tell _val_ about squeeze-lts |
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| 09:46.23 | _val_ | jelly: that didn't help much |
| 09:46.47 | _val_ | shay_shay_: On some servers I'm running squeeze 6.0.6. Now apt-get install --only-upgrade bash doesn't seem to work |
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| 09:46.50 | petn-randall | bumbar_: crontab has a man page where it's documented. As an admin, do you really need a cron job to run every minute? Sounds like you're not going to solve the original problem. |
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| 09:46.57 | _val_ | jelly: ok, got a pm |
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| 09:47.07 | jelly | _val_: the fix is in squeeze-lts repos. Do you have them enabled? |
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| 09:47.51 | _val_ | jelly: no, but I'll enable them I guess |
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| 09:48.18 | CeBe | _val_: I have just asked the same, answer: "jelly: CeBe: the fix is in squeeze-lts. /msg dpkg squeeze-lts" |
| 09:48.37 | chrisc | on some machines the bash upgrade is getting this warning: "WARNING: untrusted versions of the following packages will be installed!" |
| 09:49.07 | jelly | chrisc: this implies you don't have the latest debian-archive-keyring package installed |
| 09:49.10 | bumbar_ | petn-randall, i want to restart my program if it crashes, is there a better way to this? |
| 09:49.40 | chrisc | jelly: i think i do, this is after running "dpkg-reconfigure debian-archive-keyring" |
| 09:49.41 | _val_ | CeBe: deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ squeeze-lts main in /etc/apt/sources.list ? |
| 09:49.46 | petn-randall | bumbar_: Yes, definitely. What program is it? |
| 09:49.47 | _val_ | Is that the correct repo? |
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| 09:50.50 | chrisc | jelly: which reault in "gpg: Total number processed: 7 gpg: unchanged: 7" ... any other ideas? |
| 09:50.59 | bumbar_ | petn-randall, some server i've created, and it needs to be up for testing purposes |
| 09:51.27 | jelly | chrisc: pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy debian-archive-keyring; apt-cache policy" and "aptitude update", then |
| 09:52.25 | Eryn_1983_FL | fuuuu |
| 09:52.31 | Eryn_1983_FL | come on another bug? |
| 09:52.58 | JyZyXEL | doesn't seem there is a patch for bash in wheezy yet |
| 09:54.35 | CeBe | _val_: yes |
| 09:55.01 | CeBe | JyZyXEL: it is in debian security packages |
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| 09:55.52 | JyZyXEL | CeBe: 4.2+dfsg-0.1+deb7u1? |
| 09:55.58 | CeBe | JyZyXEL: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-6271 |
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| 09:56.05 | CeBe | yes |
| 09:56.14 | CeBe | & |
| 09:56.16 | JyZyXEL | looks like i already had it ;o |
| 09:57.30 | TJ- | JyZyXEL: There's another one coming, for CVE-2014-7169 |
| 09:57.41 | chrisc | jelly: https://pastee.org/33h66 |
| 09:58.19 | _val_ | jelly: CeBe Thank you! I'm now up to date! |
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| 10:01.25 | chrisc | jelly: here is what i see when i try to update bash onsome machines: https://pastee.org/w4vqn |
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| 10:05.43 | jelly | chrisc: and both pastes are from the same machine? |
| 10:05.59 | chrisc | yes |
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| 10:06.24 | jelly | chrisc: weird. Can you show "apt-cache policy bash" as well |
| 10:06.31 | deni | i'm having issues with upgrading on testing: /var/lib/dpkg/info/findutils.prerm: 5: /var/lib/dpkg/info/findutils.prerm: install-info: not found |
| 10:06.37 | deni | any ideas? |
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| 10:07.03 | chrisc | jelly: https://pastee.org/zuxx |
| 10:07.12 | nkuttler | !tell deni about installit |
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| 10:08.13 | chrisc | jelly: another odd thing -- i compared the squeeze server i updated -- the sha512sums on the new bash -- and they match the one on the machiones that say it's untrusted |
| 10:08.38 | deni | nkuttler: not sure what that means....i mean how does that apply to my question? |
| 10:08.55 | nkuttler | deni: the bot sent you a msg |
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| 10:09.10 | chrisc | jelly: sorry if the above is unclear -- some squeeze lts servers updated ok, and the bash they installed has the same sha512sum and the one that other servers say is untrusted |
| 10:09.15 | altin | can anyone help me with this http://pastebin.com/sMaBKydj |
| 10:09.30 | jelly | chrisc: hm. For a start, I'd wipe all the downloaded apt lists and do an update again, rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*_* |
| 10:09.45 | altin | I'm running deb 6 |
| 10:09.48 | petn-randall | bumbar_: Check out the daemontools package. It has a command called supervise. That should work for you. |
| 10:09.59 | nkuttler | !tel altin about bat |
| 10:10.02 | nkuttler | !tell altin about bat |
| 10:10.06 | mrph | Hi. I have problems setting up my can network interface at startup using /etc/network/interfaces. At startup the interface is visible with ifconfig -a but not without the -a option. That means it is not activated although I use ifconfig can0 up |
| 10:10.20 | deni | nkuttler: i know i've read it. i don't see how that apply to my question |
| 10:10.35 | dupondje | Just build some bash packages for lenny & etch with the dsa3032 fix :) |
| 10:10.39 | nkuttler | deni: the prerm script tells you that a command is not found |
| 10:10.42 | themill | deni: precisely what are you upgrading from and to? |
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| 10:12.23 | mrph | My machine is a beaglebone black. Here is my /etc/network/interfaces: http://pastebin.com/bZMYUuGh |
| 10:12.27 | nkuttler | deni: btw, you certainly have an odd system there. testing, but icinga-common_1.0.2-2+squeeze1_all.deb ? |
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| 10:12.33 | deni | themill: nkuttler a machine that has testing repos i just hit apt-get upgrade |
| 10:12.44 | themill | deni: that doesn't say what you're upgrading from and to |
| 10:12.53 | nkuttler | !tell deni about bat |
| 10:12.54 | deni | themill: from an older version of testing |
| 10:13.04 | themill | deni: precisely which version of findutils? |
| 10:13.17 | deni | themill: you mean from which version? |
| 10:13.22 | themill | yes |
| 10:13.35 | chrisc | jelly: still have the same issue: https://pastee.org/8b996 |
| 10:13.53 | deni | themill: http://dpaste.com/0VMC2TZ |
| 10:14.31 | themill | deni: upgrading from squeeze to jessie is completely unsupported... |
| 10:15.37 | altin | nkuttler: ? |
| 10:15.41 | deni | themill: how do you know that's squeeze? |
| 10:15.53 | deni | because of the findutils version? |
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| 10:16.09 | themill | yes |
| 10:16.11 | nkuttler | altin: did you read the bot msg? |
| 10:16.37 | deni | themill: well that means the machine hasn't been upgrade in a long while |
| 10:16.46 | themill | deni: in fact, that findutils is even older than squeeze |
| 10:17.33 | nkuttler | deni: what you can try is to upgrade to squeeze-lts, then wheezy, and stop there |
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| 10:17.48 | deni | nkuttler: themill tnx |
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| 10:19.18 | jelly | chrisc: hm, do your md5sums for squeeze-lts Release files match http://paste.debian.net/122988/? Does "apt-key list" contain 46925553? |
| 10:20.14 | altin | nkuttler: here is the aptitude |
| 10:20.15 | altin | http://pastebin.com/an56TBUe |
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| 10:21.59 | nkuttler | altin: upgrade to squeeze first, then to either squeeze-lts or wheezy |
| 10:23.10 | altin | nkuttler: http://pastebin.com/jbwPBvSf |
| 10:23.25 | jelly | chrisc: your "dpkg-reconfigure debian-archive-keyring" output at https://pastee.org/w4vqn says the relevant key is present, so the only thing I can see happening is that somehow, mismatched Release and Release.gpg are being downloaded off http.debian.net (try using a different mirror for squeeze-lts) |
| 10:23.33 | nkuttler | altin: erm, are you just running random commands, or what are you trying to do? |
| 10:23.52 | altin | nkuttler: it is squeeze, what do you mean by upgrade to squeeze first ? |
| 10:24.03 | chrisc | jelly: https://pastee.org/58nrb |
| 10:24.27 | nkuttler | altin: please paste the info i asked for. apt-cache policy <list of all packages in your paste> |
| 10:24.28 | chrisc | jelly: is there an alternative to using http.debian.net? |
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| 10:25.11 | altin | nkuttler: this http://pastebin.com/NJWtbKdJ |
| 10:25.11 | jelly | chrisc: squeeze-lts is present on all the normal mirrors. |
| 10:25.12 | altin | ? |
| 10:25.21 | nkuttler | altin: no |
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| 10:25.40 | mrph | Hi. I have problems setting up my can network interface at startup using /etc/network/interfaces. At startup the interface is visible with ifconfig -a but not without the -a option. That means it is not activated although I use ifconfig can0 up. My machine is a beaglebone black. Here is my /etc/network/interfaces: http://pastebin.com/bZMYUuGh |
| 10:25.55 | nkuttler | altin: apt-cache policy pt-file bash debianutils dhcp3-client dhcp3-common diff gettext ghostscript icinga-common info iptables libbluetooth-dev |
| 10:25.56 | jelly | chrisc: including eg. http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ |
| 10:26.34 | chrisc | jelly: thanks, i'll try updates the sources.list |
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| 10:27.16 | altin | http://pastebin.com/vwXCU7Qg nkuttler |
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| 10:28.01 | nkuttler | altin: looks like you're running lenny, more or less |
| 10:28.10 | chrisc | jelly: confirmed, the issue goes away when i stop using http.debian.net |
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| 10:28.33 | nkuttler | altin: you probably want to replace stable with squeeze in your /etc/apt/sources.list, then dist-upgrade lenny->squeeze->wheezy |
| 10:28.53 | jelly | chrisc: there's a way to figure out which machine behind http.debian.net you got broken files from, but I can't be arsed to look that up |
| 10:28.59 | nkuttler | altin: that's two dist-upgrades, you can't do this in one step |
| 10:29.06 | mattymo | I'm trying to work around preseed/retrieve_error issue. It doesn't retry download, but if it did, it would clearly work |
| 10:29.07 | altin | ok nkuttler |
| 10:29.20 | mattymo | is this a good channel to as about debian preseed? |
| 10:29.47 | mattymo | s/as/ask |
| 10:29.53 | themill | !which http.debian.net |
| 10:29.54 | dpkg | To see which mirror you are being sent to by the <http.debian.net> redirector, substitute the appropriate release and architecture into the following: «wget -O/dev/null --max-redirect=0 http://http.debian.net/debian/dists/unstable/main/binary-amd64/Packages.bz2 2>&1 | grep Location». You can also look for the Release file or individual .debs if you want. |
| 10:29.58 | themill | chrisc, jelly ^^ |
| 10:30.06 | nkuttler | mattymo: just ask your real question |
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| 10:30.15 | chrisc | themill: thanks |
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| 10:32.19 | mattymo | nkuttler, sure. I'm installing many hosts in parallel with preseed (via cobbler). Cobbler doesn't respond to all the requests so fast, so sometimes preseed fails to download the configuration file. |
| 10:32.37 | altin | well nkuttler I cant run anything to install bcs of this icinga problem |
| 10:32.51 | mattymo | I can't figure out if there's a kernel option I can set that will tell to retry |
| 10:33.07 | altin | I changed the sources for upgrade to squeeze-lts |
| 10:33.10 | altin | but cant upgrade |
| 10:33.32 | nkuttler | altin: pastebin command + error |
| 10:33.51 | nkuttler | altin: use paste.debian.net actually |
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| 10:34.53 | altin | nkuttler: http://pastebin.com/MMkBkUuQ |
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| 10:35.46 | nkuttler | ,v icinga-common |
| 10:35.48 | judd | Package: icinga-common on i386 -- squeeze: 1.0.2-2+squeeze1; squeeze-security: 1.0.2-2+squeeze1; squeeze-security-lts: 1.0.2-2+squeeze2; squeeze-backports: 1.7.1-5~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1.7.1-7; wheezy-security: 1.7.1-7; wheezy-backports: 1.11.5-1~bpo70+1; wheezy-backports: 1.11.6-1~bpo70+1; sid: 1.11.6-1; jessie: 1.11.6-1 |
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| 10:37.32 | nkuttler | altin: that.. doesn't look right. debian shouldn't touch /usr/local/ |
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| 10:38.02 | nkuttler | altin: anyway, seems like you should fix the icinga prerm script in /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 10:38.17 | chrisc | themill jelly I'm getting two different mirrors, mirror.lchost.net and mirror.bytemark.co.uk |
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| 10:39.10 | altin | nkuttler: fix, meaning? can you give me any hints ? |
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| 10:40.13 | nkuttler | altin: it fails because it can't stop icinga, because it's not running. that's a silly error. how to fix it is up to you, the ugly fix is to put exit 0 on line 2.. |
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| 10:40.56 | nkuttler | altin: you should probably remove the package if it's not doing anything, unless you have good reasons not to.. |
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| 10:42.04 | hashbang | Hi! |
| 10:42.21 | hashbang | I'm having a problem with repo pinning |
| 10:42.36 | altin | nkuttler: If I could.. http://paste.debian.net/122994/ |
| 10:42.43 | hashbang | I've inherited a bunch of systems with it configured |
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| 10:42.55 | Arahael | What's an easy, generic templating engine I can use? |
| 10:42.57 | nkuttler | altin: removing it of course runs the prerm script as well |
| 10:43.06 | Arahael | I want to *simple* template engine I can use for a static website. |
| 10:43.17 | nkuttler | Arahael: jinja2 ? |
| 10:43.25 | altin | nkuttler: I see, so what's another way ? |
| 10:43.30 | altin | I'm nto a pro on this, sorry :) |
| 10:43.49 | Arahael | nkuttler: That doesn't look static. |
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| 10:44.04 | nkuttler | Arahael: how could a templating engine be static? |
| 10:44.14 | Arahael | nkuttler: By not supporting dynamic models. |
| 10:44.15 | hashbang | Package: *, Pin: release o=Debian, Pin-Priority: -1 makes the squeeze-lts repo get a priority of -1 |
| 10:44.17 | nkuttler | altin: it fails because it can't stop icinga, because it's not running. that's a silly error. how to fix it is up to you, the ugly fix is to put exit 0 on line 2.. |
| 10:44.37 | hashbang | if I remove that stanza from apt prefs, it gets 500, but not 801 as I specify earlier in prefs |
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| 10:44.54 | nkuttler | Arahael: sounds like you want a simple preprocessor then.. anyway try ##web i guess |
| 10:44.56 | Arahael | nkuttler: You'd still get a lot of benefits, for example, the templating language itself, the ability to include other html files, etcetera. Actually just the ability to embed other files is all I need. |
| 10:45.00 | Arahael | Yeah, that's what I want. |
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| 10:45.05 | Arahael | I'll ask ##web. |
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| 10:45.39 | hashbang | nothing gets explicitly assigned a pin-priority of 500, so I'm struggling to see where it gets that from |
| 10:45.52 | dagon_ | is there any way to get florence to automatically pop up when you point to a text field? |
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| 10:46.04 | hashbang | what's the order of precedence in /etc/apt/preferences - most specific first? |
| 10:46.13 | hashbang | or last stanza first? |
| 10:46.44 | altin | nkuttler: a 0 on line 2 o.O ? line 2 of which file, or what ? |
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| 10:47.34 | nkuttler | altin: "exit 0". the prerm script. |
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| 10:54.21 | altin | nkuttler: prerm script is something I hear for the first time sorry |
| 10:55.00 | altin | can you please be more descriptive nkuttler |
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| 10:58.12 | nkuttler | altin: prerm scripts are in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ |
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| 10:58.24 | nikio | my school gave me an ova file so i can run debian in a virtual box |
| 10:58.30 | nikio | its working but now it asks me to login |
| 10:58.34 | nikio | but i dont know the password.. |
| 10:58.41 | nikio | great |
| 10:58.45 | nkuttler | nikio: ask your school for it |
| 10:58.56 | pclover | or reset it? |
| 10:59.07 | nikio | but it doesnt make sense because i checked the guide and the website |
| 10:59.07 | nkuttler | really sounds like a documentation problem |
| 10:59.15 | nikio | and there is no mention of a password anywhere |
| 10:59.21 | pclover | not sure how you get into single user mode on debian |
| 10:59.26 | nkuttler | !tell nikio about i forgot root's password |
| 10:59.27 | pclover | can you just add single or 1 to the boot line? |
| 10:59.33 | pclover | to get into single user |
| 10:59.35 | nikio | it would have said on the website where i downloaded this ova file from for sure!! |
| 11:00.02 | nikio | maybe im new to this |
| 11:00.19 | nikio | i see two accounts |
| 11:00.20 | nikio | Student |
| 11:00.21 | nikio | and other.. |
| 11:00.32 | nikio | *Other... |
| 11:01.03 | altin | nkuttler: should I add that exit 0 in all icinga related prerm files ? |
| 11:01.45 | nkuttler | altin: are you at work, or is that some random private box? |
| 11:02.23 | altin | well it is a testing server |
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| 11:02.32 | nkuttler | what's a testing server? |
| 11:02.40 | altin | we try stuff in it :) |
| 11:02.55 | nkuttler | altin: then yes.. |
| 11:03.03 | nikio | ok nevermind sorry |
| 11:03.08 | nikio | it did say on the site |
| 11:03.16 | nikio | but i misread it |
| 11:03.20 | nikio | thanks : ) |
| 11:03.36 | altin | good, no errors on dist-upgrade now :) |
| 11:03.39 | altin | nkuttler: |
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| 11:05.16 | Mariana23 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:05.52 | stormy3 | this bash issue, is there a patch for it yet? |
| 11:06.02 | nkuttler | stormy3: kinda |
| 11:06.14 | stormy3 | i guess one is due to be released? |
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| 11:06.32 | stormy3 | just got a few servers / machines here running debian that need updating! |
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| 11:12.16 | CeBe | stormy3: yes, there is: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-6271 |
| 11:13.01 | nikio | how do i make a file with .s extension in debian? im just learning linux and assembly lol |
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| 11:14.22 | nkuttler | nikio: maybe that info is on the website as well |
| 11:14.59 | dob1 | it seems still vulnerable bash after the update, or am i wrong? |
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| 11:15.35 | stormy3 | CeBe: thanks! |
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| 11:15.50 | nikio | nkuttler, funnily no |
| 11:15.54 | nkuttler | dob1: yes. this is fun |
| 11:15.57 | nikio | in the lab manual it says: gcc -o nameofyourprogram nameofyoursource.s |
| 11:15.57 | nikio | ./nameofyourprogram |
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| 11:16.03 | nikio | but it doesnt say how to make a .s file |
| 11:16.18 | nkuttler | nikio: i'd guess with an editor? |
| 11:16.34 | dob1 | nkuttler, they will release another update I think |
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| 11:17.15 | nikio | which one should i use nkuttler |
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| 11:17.28 | nikio | just the simplest default one on debian will do |
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| 11:17.39 | buu | nikio: You should use ed |
| 11:17.40 | nkuttler | nikio: there is only one true editor of course, vim |
| 11:17.56 | buu | dob1: testing isn't vulnerable to either of the exploits btw |
| 11:18.19 | buu | Oh wait, I take it back |
| 11:18.26 | buu | Just the revised one |
| 11:19.02 | dob1 | buu, are you testing this env X='() { (a)=>\' bash -c "echo date"; cat echo ? |
| 11:19.11 | jelly | buu: 4.3-9 is buggy dude |
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| 11:20.04 | nikio | oh i see gedit |
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| 11:22.33 | buu | dob1: yes |
| 11:22.36 | buu | dob1: Well, env X='() { (a)=>\' bash -c "echo echo vuln"; [[ "$(cat echo)" == "vuln" ]] && echo "still vulnerable :(" |
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| 11:22.55 | buu | I'm on 4.3.24-1 |
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| 11:28.56 | starbuck | hi, i can't uninstall a package on debian 7.6 - mubmle-django |
| 11:29.34 | starbuck | http://paste.debian.net/123000/ |
| 11:29.53 | starbuck | what can i do to get rid of it completely? |
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| 11:33.35 | Twinkletoes_ | I'm configuring csf+lfd (firewall) on our servers. To make life simpler, how bad is it to exclude 127.0.0.1 from the firewall config altogether (ie. allow it to do anything)? |
| 11:33.51 | smv | starbuck, did you had sudo rights while running that commad?? |
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| 11:36.44 | smv | starbuck, also try apt-get purge --auto-remove |
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| 11:37.51 | starbuck | smv, yes, i was root and also tried autoremove, same result |
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| 11:44.04 | ntz | hello |
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| 11:44.53 | ntz | can anybody tell me, why in debian (fully up to date) doesn't work (out-of-the-box) a pgup/down bash completition ? |
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| 11:45.48 | ntz | frankly .. here's 6.0.9, i'm rhel guy and only what comes to my mind are words like the "medieval" and such like ... |
| 11:46.11 | ntz | snmp parts are segfaulting on bugs reported in 2010/11 |
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| 11:47.05 | ntz | I completely don't catch where the value of debian is ... one of the most unstable and buggy things I've seen in past years .. |
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| 11:50.29 | eizodo | ntz: bash completion? using "Tabulation"? |
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| 11:50.57 | ntz | eizodo: yes .. pgup/down function |
| 11:51.12 | ntz | try typing "l<pgup>" |
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| 11:51.41 | ntz | eizodo: pres l key and pgup key ;) |
| 11:51.44 | eizodo | ntz: that doesn't do anything; you should do instead: "l<tab>" |
| 11:52.04 | ntz | no, you don't know this function |
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| 11:52.29 | eizodo | ntz: looks like it needs to be configured |
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| 11:52.35 | ntz | <tab> completition and <pgup/down> completition are two different things |
| 11:52.59 | deni | btw any ideas when the security update for the bash issue will be released to wheezy? |
| 11:53.05 | ntz | eizodo: frankly, it's supposed to run out-of-the-box .. I never configured that anywhere |
| 11:53.15 | eizodo | ntz: type that: cat /etc/inputrc | grep "alternate mappings" -A 2 |
| 11:53.25 | eizodo | apparently you need to uncomment these two lines |
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| 11:53.33 | syko | Hi, I installed pychess from "python setup.py install" in it's extracted .tar.gz folder, now I want to remove it. I deleted /usr/local/lib/python2.7/dist-packages/pychess but it's still not going away. When I type 'pychess' in terminal, it returns "ERROR: Could not import modules"...etc, how can I remove pychess COMPLETELY? |
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| 11:54.18 | ntz | eizodo: thanks :) .. now I learned where they are .. I never knew that's in inputrc .. I'd expect that in bash config files |
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| 11:54.35 | eizodo | ntz: no problem |
| 11:54.38 | MCMic | Hello |
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| 11:55.21 | buu | syko: did you try python setup.py uninstall ? |
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| 11:55.54 | MCMic | I’m trying to find a command to install a package if it exists (and give no errors if it does not). I tried apt-get install --ignore-missing, but i still get «E: Unable to locate package <package>» |
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| 11:57.06 | arubi | apt-get install --ignore-missing 2>/dev/null |
| 11:57.11 | ntz | MCMic: somecommand 2>/dev/null |
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| 11:58.03 | MCMic | hum but I also need the return code to be 0. Plus I’d have preferred to keep track of other errors (like package exists but installation fails) |
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| 11:58.28 | petn-randall | MCMic: |
| 11:58.31 | arubi | add "|| true" ? |
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| 11:58.46 | petn-randall | MCMic: apt-get install --ignore-missing 2>/dev/null || true |
| 11:58.48 | MCMic | yeah this is what I’m trying |
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| 11:59.05 | eizodo | the other errors are still missing |
| 11:59.17 | petn-randall | MCMic: Sounds a bit like an XY problem to me. What are you, in the overview sense, trying to achieve? |
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| 11:59.37 | MCMic | An other solution would be to first test if the package exists, what command could I use for this? |
| 12:00.20 | arubi | you should really explain what you're trying to do |
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| 12:00.26 | TJ- | MCMic: how about "apt-get install --ignore-missing || true" ? |
| 12:00.28 | MCMic | petn-randall: For automated tests for each plugin I install a plugin and its schemas, but for some plugins there are no schemas so no package named plugin-schemas. |
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| 12:01.06 | MCMic | I want to install the package plugin, and, if it exists, install the package plugin-schema |
| 12:01.39 | arubi | "apt-cache search <package>" searches for a package |
| 12:01.54 | ntz | arubi: apt-cache search has not usable exit status |
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| 12:02.30 | arubi | maybe an exit status is not the best approach though |
| 12:02.34 | ntz | apt-cache showpkg foo will give you 0 unless it fails for some another reason |
| 12:02.46 | arubi | that works :) |
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| 12:03.53 | ntz | arubi: # apt-cache showpkg foo 2>/dev/null && echo see how it\'s stupid |
| 12:03.53 | ntz | see how it's stupid |
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| 12:04.04 | MCMic | ntz: showpkg gives me 0 in all cases |
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| 12:04.13 | ntz | 14:02 < ntz> apt-cache showpkg foo will give you 0 unless it fails for some another reason |
| 12:04.19 | ntz | MCMic: ^^ I told it already above |
| 12:04.46 | MCMic | so I can’t use it? |
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| 12:05.46 | MCMic | Maybe I can use apt-cache showpkg foo|grep Package ? |
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| 12:05.56 | ntz | MCMic: # test -z "$(apt-cache showpkg bash 2>/dev/null)" || echo not missing |
| 12:05.57 | ntz | not missing |
| 12:06.00 | MCMic | If it’s empty the package does not exist |
| 12:06.07 | ntz | maybe like that but I don't know how much reliable it is |
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| 12:07.14 | ntz | but generally it rather seems like that you're trying to either re-invent wheel or generally to deploy some totally wrong concept - frankly ;) |
| 12:07.37 | MCMic | Why is that? |
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| 12:09.14 | ntz | MCMic: what's the task again ? |
| 12:09.22 | ntz | 14:01 < MCMic> I want to install the package plugin, and, if it exists, install the package plugin-schema |
| 12:09.28 | MCMic | ntz: it’s for automated test in VMs |
| 12:09.48 | MCMic | ntz: (13:58:37) MCMic: petn-randall: For automated tests for each plugin I install a plugin and its schemas, but for some plugins there are no schemas so no package named plugin-schemas. |
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| 12:09.58 | arubi | MCMic, will a list of packages ending with -schemas help..? |
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| 12:10.55 | MCMic | arubi: not sure |
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| 12:11.43 | MCMic | But I guess the || true will have to do for now. |
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| 12:24.34 | ruukasu | when will cve-2014-6271 be patched? |
| 12:24.40 | ruukasu | (in testing) |
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| 12:28.20 | towo` | ruukasu, if 4.3-9.1 is uploaded to testing |
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| 12:29.07 | themill | ruukasu: testing doesn't receive direct security support. If you want updated packages for testing, you have to pull them from unstable (and hope that you actually can on any given day) |
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| 12:31.30 | afx237 | is the debian live rescue iso fine for doing regular debian installations? |
| 12:32.03 | themill | the installer images are the better images for installing |
| 12:32.47 | afx237 | i was just thinking if its just as good, might as well burn that, as it would have two uses |
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| 12:33.13 | afx237 | you think maybe stick with the normal ones to be safe? |
| 12:34.25 | petn-randall | afx237: the installer part of the live images are less tested, so you might run into some bugs. I don't know if they have all the features of the default installer (is it the same code?) |
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| 12:35.09 | afx237 | petn-randall: ok then, thanks. i'll just stick with the regular dvd1 then |
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| 12:35.29 | basheba | java on wheezy anyone? |
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| 12:36.09 | nkuttler | basheba: wat? |
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| 12:36.32 | petn-randall | basheba: Can rephrase your question that it's understandable? Like, at least add a verb. |
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| 12:38.03 | basheba | if you can't figure that out petn-randall then I wasn't talking to you |
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| 12:38.39 | petn-randall | !tell basheba about ask |
| 12:38.44 | afx237 | you said anyone |
| 12:38.54 | eizodo | basheba: yes |
| 12:38.59 | petn-randall | !tell basheba about anyone |
| 12:39.08 | eizodo | :) |
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| 12:42.29 | petn-randall | basheba: We're all volunteers that who support people in our free time. Please have the courtesy to ask your questions in a way that they're understandable. Take the time to read the helpful instructions our bot dpkg has sent you. |
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| 12:55.16 | basheba | nigga I been on IRC since 1995 stfu |
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| 12:58.08 | nkuttler | Esya: installing the security update seems like a good start |
| 12:58.41 | nkuttler | !tell rastaval about lamp |
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| 12:58.49 | Esya | With squeeze/updates then? |
| 12:59.03 | Esya | I already have that |
| 12:59.09 | nkuttler | !tell Esya about squeeze-lts |
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| 12:59.12 | Esya | In my sources : deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main |
| 12:59.25 | Esya | Oh thanks |
| 12:59.25 | rastaval | thanks nkuttler |
| 12:59.26 | Esya | Did not know about this |
| 12:59.31 | nkuttler | Esya: you need new sources for the lts |
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| 13:42.02 | nikomo | Is CVE-2014-7169 already patched in Debian? My Google-fu appears to be weak. |
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| 13:42.43 | nikomo | DSA-3032-1 refers to CVE-2014-6271, not 7169, and I can't find a newer DSA |
| 13:44.16 | arcke | short answer, bash in debian is still vulnerable |
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| 13:44.43 | bint | hi there |
| 13:44.47 | arcke | hi |
| 13:45.12 | bint | i'm very new to debian and linux and have a noob problem |
| 13:45.31 | bint | i installed a programm (rtorrent) and found a newer version and wanted to install the newer version |
| 13:45.32 | bint | i did so |
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| 13:45.42 | bint | but now, with the command: rtorrent, the old version still starts |
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| 13:45.47 | bint | but when going for: sudo rtorrent |
| 13:45.50 | bint | the new version starts |
| 13:46.01 | bint | can someone explain me what i did - and what i did wrong :D? |
| 13:46.04 | babilen | nikomo: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/bash |
| 13:46.19 | babilen | bint: How did you install the newer version? |
| 13:46.21 | nikomo | babilen: I did not know this existed, sweet |
| 13:46.22 | bint | is this because i used sudo make, sudo make install for thje newer version? |
| 13:46.22 | babilen | judd: v rtorrent |
| 13:46.23 | judd | Package: rtorrent on i386 -- squeeze: 0.8.6-1; squeeze-backports: 0.8.9-2~bpo60+1; jessie: 0.9.2-1; wheezy: 0.9.2-1; sid: 0.9.2-1 |
| 13:46.43 | bint | babilen i installed it from scratch |
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| 13:47.14 | arcke | nikomo: me neither |
| 13:47.19 | bint | i installed 9.3 btw |
| 13:47.25 | bint | had 0.8.9 before |
| 13:47.38 | babilen | bint: We don't necessarily recommend installing software like that from scratch. If you do that you would have to make sure that it doesn't conflict with software that has been installed by the package manager. But lets start with the problem you are having right now. |
| 13:47.53 | babilen | bint: Which version of Debian did you install? |
| 13:48.05 | bint | squeeze |
| 13:48.29 | babilen | You are aware that squeeze is not the current stable version, aren't you? |
| 13:49.06 | bint | yep |
| 13:49.25 | babilen | Any particular reason why you installed squeeze and not wheezy? |
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| 13:49.39 | nikomo | he likes to squeeze, not wheeze. |
| 13:50.05 | bint | because i installed it years ago |
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| 13:51.48 | babilen | bint: Okay, my recommendation would be to upgrade that to wheezy in due course (i.e. *now*) which would also give you access to rtorrent 0.9.2. But back to your original problem. I guess/hope that you installed it to /usr/local and that you now have an rtorrent binary in both /usr/bin and /usr/local/bin and that the former shadows the latter. Can you confirm that? |
| 13:51.56 | babilen | dpkg: tell bint -about squeeze->wheezy |
| 13:53.17 | babilen | dpkg: tell bint -about usrlocal |
| 13:53.26 | babilen | dpkg: tell bint -about stow |
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| 13:53.50 | bint | hmm |
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| 13:54.14 | bint | there is rtorrent |
| 13:54.21 | bint | and i installed yesterday |
| 13:54.28 | babilen | bint: I just asked our bot to sent you some information about tools/procedures to ease the maintenance of locally compiled software. In particular stow is a very nice tool. |
| 13:54.38 | babilen | "there" ? |
| 13:54.52 | bint | in usr/local/bin |
| 13:54.53 | bint | http://i.imgur.com/ubna8yP.png |
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| 13:55.31 | babilen | bint: So if you run "/usr/local/bin/rtorrent --version" you get the version you want, don't you? |
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| 13:55.51 | babilen | (and feel free to use pastebins such as http://paste.debian.net or http://refheap.com to share textual information like that) |
| 13:55.59 | bint | jj¨ |
| 13:56.01 | bint | okay |
| 13:56.13 | bint | so yep there is rtorrent in both, usr bin and usr local bin |
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| 13:59.30 | bint | but the rtorrent file in /usr/bin from the old version |
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| 14:00.42 | bint | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:04.25 | babilen | bint: So, remove the Debian package if you don't want to use that, but my recommendation would be to remove your locally installed one and to upgrade to wheezy. |
| 14:05.01 | bint | the thing i dont understad is, why does the newer version start with the sudo command (sudo rtorrent) |
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| 14:05.09 | bint | while the old one starts without sudo rights |
| 14:05.13 | DynamicFail | what is the best way to get a script to run at startup |
| 14:05.23 | bint | DynamicFail init.d |
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| 14:06.18 | KaaK | are there any tools for recursively solving dependencies? i.e. a tool that i can point to a package, and have that tool recursively print out all dependencies for that package. |
| 14:06.39 | valdyn | KaaK: apt-rdepends |
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| 14:08.02 | KaaK | valdyn, excellent, thanks |
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| 14:11.33 | heurist | bint: the order in $PATH is different for your user and the sudoed user. You can run echo $PATH and sudo -s bash -c 'echo $PATH' to see them |
| 14:11.33 | dimitry7 | Hello Guys. I have noticed a new security bug fixed: https://www.debian.org/security/2014/dsa-3032 |
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| 14:11.56 | rzrmw | How to share files over wifi in debian |
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| 14:12.17 | rzrmw | how to share files over wifi ?? |
| 14:12.30 | dimitry7 | But I wonder if that fix is also available for Debian 6? The page says it is fixed in stable... but I don't know if only in stable... I have updated my squeeze packages and no security fixes were found... |
| 14:12.45 | rzrmw | Hello is there anyone to help me with the wifi issue. ' |
| 14:12.45 | anonnumberanon | I am getting Debian 7 for my website intead of the crazy Ubuntu selection that they have there, am I making a mistake? |
| 14:13.17 | anonnumberanon | rzrmw, what do you mean by sharing files, be more specific |
| 14:13.41 | heurist | anonnumberanon: your mistake was considering ubuntu for a server in the first place. Debian is a good choice. |
| 14:13.48 | rzrmw | i want to share a .pdf file to my mobile over wifi |
| 14:14.03 | anonnumberanon | heurist, heh. I always use Debian. |
| 14:14.39 | heurist | dimitry7: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-6271 says it is fixed in squueze (lts) |
| 14:14.59 | heurist | !tell dimitry7 -about lts |
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| 14:16.13 | towo` | it's not fixed, see CVE-2014-7169 |
| 14:16.21 | One | Wifi issue ..!!!! |
| 14:17.03 | One | can somebody help me ? |
| 14:17.09 | dimitry7 | heurist, oh perfect, I was looking for that!!.. thank you man!! |
| 14:17.13 | heurist | towo`: for a given value of fixed |
| 14:17.35 | heurist | !tell One -about ask |
| 14:17.39 | dimitry7 | Ok im checking it |
| 14:18.09 | One | Once if i turn the wifi off in my laptop next time i can't activate it. |
| 14:19.21 | dimitry7 | heurist, you're my hero, I didn't know that repo. Thank you!!! |
| 14:19.57 | One | Hello is there any one to help me ? |
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| 14:21.16 | runeg | !tell runeg about squeeze-lts |
| 14:21.41 | slurpymcdurpy | !tell slurpymcdurpy about squeeze-lts |
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| 14:22.09 | heurist | !tell runeg -about selftell |
| 14:22.22 | heurist | !tell slurpymcdurpy -about selftell |
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| 14:22.33 | runeg | Was looking for previous info :P |
| 14:22.50 | heurist | bot is getting a workout |
| 14:23.03 | runeg | Isn't that it's purpose? |
| 14:23.05 | slurpymcdurpy | cool, that's so much less tacky than self-tell. |
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| 14:25.22 | heurist | !tell One -about msg |
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| 14:26.31 | One | My wifi never get activated, |
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| 14:42.27 | diabel | Can any one tell me why in pnp4nagios i've got 'Host Perfdata' in section Services with some strange settings - for ex. critical and warning has the same value - 100% :| |
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| 14:43.40 | w00ds | hello |
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| 14:43.55 | w00ds | im running debian squeeze on a vps/server ... but ive been doing apt-get update/upgrade |
| 14:44.07 | w00ds | without success of a updated BASH software/application |
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| 14:46.16 | heurist | w00ds: are you squeeze lts or just squeeze? |
| 14:46.23 | heurist | !tell w00ds -about lts |
| 14:46.37 | w00ds | uhhh ... that made no sense to me |
| 14:46.37 | w00ds | lol |
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| 14:46.58 | heurist | w00ds: see the message the bot sent you. |
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| 14:47.38 | w00ds | so .... debian isn't providing updated for security on squeeze anymore i guess |
| 14:47.42 | w00ds | its done by volunteers? |
| 14:47.48 | heurist | w00ds: yes |
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| 14:47.53 | w00ds | thats not cool |
| 14:47.57 | w00ds | bye debian |
| 14:48.07 | heurist | !tell w00ds -about enter |
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| 14:49.47 | toshy | w00ds: add the following line to your source.list "deb http://http.debian.net/debian squeeze-lts main contrib non-free" |
| 14:49.54 | toshy | then update /upgrade |
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| 15:04.14 | TyrfingMjolnir | When will bash be patched in the repos for 6.x and 7.x? |
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| 15:05.06 | centrx | TyrfingMjolnir, already is |
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| 15:05.39 | TyrfingMjolnir | I did an update and an upgrade, but I did not see any bash packages updated |
| 15:05.57 | centrx | Okay, check this: |
| 15:05.58 | centrx | !security |
| 15:05.59 | dpkg | Put "deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free" in your /etc/apt/sources.list file to keep up-to-date on security updates in <stable>. Run "aptitude update" and "aptitude upgrade" (or "aptitude full-upgrade" if the updates are kept back). Also ask me about <dsa>, <security backports>, <oldstable security>, <testing security>, <unstable security>, <browser security>. |
| 15:06.24 | chrisb | !bash |
| 15:06.24 | dpkg | i heard bash is the Bourne Again SHell, and the default Debian shell. Ask me about <bash faq>, <bash pitfalls>, <bbg>, <abs>, <parsing ls>, <bashism>. http://wiki.debian.org/Bash #bash on irc.oftc.net and irc.freenode.net. |
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| 15:06.50 | chrisb | !testing-security |
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| 15:07.39 | dreas | Debian 6.0 LTS is still vulnerable for the new issue right? https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=762760 |
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| 15:08.06 | dreas | e.g. executing: env X='() { (a)=>\' sh -c "echo date"; cat echo |
| 15:08.07 | centrx | ok right there are subsequent issues from the original issue |
| 15:08.13 | centrx | those may not be patched yet |
| 15:08.14 | garyserj | what are some of the ways that one would send an email via command line in debian specifying smtp server? |
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| 15:08.31 | dreas | If it shows "date" you're still vulnerable, and there is no Debian patch yet as far as I know |
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| 15:08.36 | centrx | https://packages.qa.debian.org/b/bash.html |
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| 15:09.41 | Brigo | dreas, squeezy and wheezy are already fixed |
| 15:09.57 | dreas | Brigo: Ah, that's good. So just waiting for LTS then |
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| 15:10.41 | Brigo | dreas, wait i am not sure now: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/source-package/bash |
| 15:10.48 | TyrfingMjolnir | http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/ not updated? |
| 15:10.51 | slurpymcdurpy | fixed for 6271, not fixed for 7169 |
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| 15:11.25 | CissWit | https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-7169 |
| 15:11.35 | dreas | wheezy also doesn't seem fixed yet |
| 15:12.04 | dreas | Hmm, or I am misinterpreting the output |
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| 15:12.40 | CissWit | it isn't fixed |
| 15:12.46 | centrx | There was the original report with the original fix from yesterday |
| 15:13.15 | centrx | but now it appears the fix was incomplete (for everyone not just Debian) |
| 15:13.26 | Brigo | Yesterday there was only one issue and it was fixed in wheezy, squeezy and sid. |
| 15:13.40 | dreas | centrx: Yes, but that has been known already since early this morning |
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| 15:13.56 | centrx | well I just woke up, so right now counts as early this morning :P |
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| 15:14.37 | centrx | Also FYI, Debian and other distros that use dash for system shells have a much smaller attack surface for this |
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| 15:15.36 | dreas | centrx: Good morning! So I'll wait some more minutes then ;) |
| 15:15.40 | Sevet | https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-6271 - original, which had the incomplete fix |
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| 15:22.00 | ant_sunrise | hello systemd master race |
| 15:22.21 | ant_sunrise | anyone else getting like a 10 second stall on boot after systemd update from last week or so? |
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| 15:25.16 | jelly | ant_sunrise: which debian release are you using? |
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| 15:25.28 | slurpymcdurpy | dude, master race is the term nazi's used to describe the white-skinned non-jewish german population. Are you sure you really want to conflate usage of systemd with THAT? |
| 15:25.31 | mordocai | Hello, in regards to CVE-2014-6271(Recent bash vulnerability) where can I ask when the patch here: http://seclists.org/oss-sec/2014/q3/690 fixing a secondary vulnerability under the same SVE will be in Debian? My wheezy server is definitely still vulnerable per that vector. |
| 15:25.41 | mordocai | same CVE* |
| 15:26.03 | Rainwave | An ETA for a jessie patch would be much appreciated as well. |
| 15:26.14 | Rainwave | A lot of nervous sysadmins right now. |
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| 15:26.32 | jelly | Rainwave: testing explicitely has NO security support |
| 15:26.34 | mordocai | Yeah, right now all they have to do is change the string in their script and it is exploitable again |
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| 15:26.45 | slurpymcdurpy | https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-7169 |
| 15:27.16 | mordocai | That version does not fixed the vulernability I linked to |
| 15:27.18 | Rainwave | jelly: I'm very aware of that, and I fully expected to be chastised. Nevertheless there /are/ systems that run it and a simple "hey work will be done in X hours" would be appreciated. |
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| 15:27.43 | r3n1c0n | hi |
| 15:27.56 | dreas | I offer a beer (0.5L) for the LTS fix to get it prioritized! :) |
| 15:27.56 | mordocai | The link I provided is a secondary vulnerability found after the 4.2+dfsg-01+deb7u1 patch |
| 15:28.06 | nikomo | afaik bash upstream has no fix for the vuln, so obviously debian can't provide a time estimate |
| 15:28.08 | slurpymcdurpy | can someone put https://packages.qa.debian.org/b/bash.html onto a bang command to dpkg? |
| 15:28.12 | slurpymcdurpy | temporarily? |
| 15:28.21 | slurpymcdurpy | Then we can just !bash |
| 15:28.31 | jelly | Rainwave: in general, there's a 2 day delay _if_ nothing is wrong, and there are no further RC bugs, before a priority=high update drops from unstable to testing |
| 15:28.34 | mordocai | nikomo: I don't know if he has officially released it, but that link is the package maintainer providing a .patch for it |
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| 15:28.43 | mordocai | Upstream* |
| 15:28.45 | mordocai | not package |
| 15:28.49 | slurpymcdurpy | or !shellshock |
| 15:28.53 | Rainwave | jelly: thanks, now I know and can work around. |
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| 15:28.58 | jelly | slurpymcdurpy: noone reads the topic |
| 15:29.20 | mordocai | Once again, the bash vuln I am talking about is NOT FIXED IN THE UPDATE |
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| 15:29.23 | slurpymcdurpy | oh |
| 15:29.42 | jelly | mordocai: are you talking about CVE-2014-7169 or something else? |
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| 15:30.09 | Rainwave | jelly: I did, unfortunately it didn't apply to me or answer my question. thank you for answering. :) |
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| 15:30.15 | mordocai | jelly: Read my link please, they decided to keep the same CVE-2014-7169 but the patch 4.2+dfsg-0.1+deb7u1 is still vulnerable per a slightly different attack string |
| 15:30.24 | ant_sunrise | sorry afk. debian sid 64bit |
| 15:30.29 | slurpymcdurpy | Ah, okay, sooo . . . in response to Jelly -- Would someone please update the dpkg msg regarding bash vulnerabilities to include CVE-2014-7169? |
| 15:30.34 | ant_sunrise | from netinstall. no DE |
| 15:30.55 | nikomo | mordocai: I believe the .patch doesn't fully prevent the exploit. |
| 15:31.08 | ant_sunrise | it shows the succes "OK" for things loaded up but sort of just sits there for a good 6-10 seconds. i have ssd. so usually a very quick boo. |
| 15:31.20 | mordocai | nikomo: Very possible. I just know my system is still vulnerable so... |
| 15:31.20 | jelly | mordocai: your link _is_ about CVE-2014-7169. |
| 15:31.26 | ant_sunrise | Not a huge deal. Was more wondering if it happened to others as well. |
| 15:31.37 | mordocai | jelly: Yes, but not the part of it that debian package version fixes |
| 15:31.39 | nikomo | mordocai: all systems are still vulnerable to 7169 - redhat, debian etc. etc. |
| 15:31.59 | jelly | mordocai: correct, because there is no fix for CVE-2014-7169 yet |
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| 15:32.16 | jelly | mordocai: there hasn't been one yet |
| 15:32.26 | mordocai | Alright, either I was reading too quickly or that was not made clear in the security releases. They just said "update to latest version to protect you" |
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| 15:33.05 | mordocai | This, for instance, says it is fixed https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-7169 |
| 15:33.12 | mordocai | But it isn't |
| 15:33.35 | nikomo | err, it says to me they're all vulnerable |
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| 15:33.47 | dreas | nikomo: They are still |
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| 15:33.52 | jelly | mordocai: next time, click on the bug number when reading the tracker page for a CVE like https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-7169 |
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| 15:33.54 | mordocai | "For the stable distribution (wheezy), this problem has been fixed in version 4.2+dfsg-0.1+deb7u1." |
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| 15:34.10 | nikomo | dreas: mordocai was saying it says it's saying it' |
| 15:34.12 | nikomo | s been fixed |
| 15:34.21 | CissWit | mordocai: we are not reading the same link then.. |
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| 15:34.23 | mordocai | No, i'm saying it hasn't been fixed but they say it is |
| 15:34.27 | TheWarden | Hello |
| 15:34.28 | nikomo | ($10 reward for the person that punches the guy that decided to put ' next to the enter key) |
| 15:34.40 | jelly | mordocai: read https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-7169 plase. |
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| 15:34.49 | mordocai | That is what I'm reading |
| 15:35.02 | jelly | mordocai: where does it say "fixed"? |
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| 15:35.07 | mordocai | For the stable distribution (wheezy), this problem has been fixed in version 4.2+dfsg-0.1+deb7u1. |
| 15:35.09 | mordocai | Right there |
| 15:35.10 | halt2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:35.10 | nikomo | squeeze: vulnerable. wheezy: vulnerable. jessie: vulnerable. sid: vulnerable |
| 15:35.19 | jelly | mordocai: we're not reading the same page. |
| 15:35.20 | nikomo | mordocai: it does not say that anywhere on that page |
| 15:35.24 | mordocai | Yes, we are |
| 15:35.28 | eizodo | mordocai: don't you see that page? http://wstaw.org/m/2014/09/25/plasma-desktopDQ3278.png |
| 15:35.32 | mordocai | I clicked your link and it says it right there |
| 15:35.36 | jelly | mordocai: can you provide a screenshot? |
| 15:35.45 | nikomo | mordocai getting NSA'd |
| 15:35.50 | dreas | mordocai: either they just updated the page, or I also see something different than you. It doesn't say "fixed" in the context of the package having been fixed anywhere |
| 15:35.55 | Brigo | there is 2 security issues: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-716 and https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-6271 |
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| 15:36.13 | Sevet | mordocai: you're reading https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-6271 not https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-7169 |
| 15:36.39 | mordocai | Alright, true. Sorry |
| 15:36.43 | mordocai | Sevet is correct |
| 15:36.51 | jelly | ... |
| 15:36.57 | mordocai | I had both open |
| 15:37.08 | jelly | !be a reading barbie |
| 15:37.08 | dpkg | Aww, reading is HARD! Let's go shopping, jelly |
| 15:37.20 | mordocai | Doesn't change the fact that the dsa says it is fixed though https://www.debian.org/security/2014/dsa-3032 |
| 15:37.26 | Brigo | [edit] there are 2 security issues: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-7169 and https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-6271 |
| 15:37.28 | mordocai | Which is confusing |
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| 15:37.40 | dreas | So everyone should open https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-7169 and keep refreshing :P |
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| 15:37.48 | mordocai | Indeed! |
| 15:37.55 | jelly | mordocai: it does NOT say CVE-2014-7169 is fixed. |
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| 15:38.18 | khaije1 | soo... how are the 7169 and the 6271 CVE's different? |
| 15:38.42 | khaije1 | in terms of their specific vuln and attack vector |
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| 15:38.55 | slurpymcdurpy | in case anyone is in a super-hurry, I crosspost this from another channel: |
| 15:38.57 | slurpymcdurpy | http://pastebin.com/mT7hY37Z |
| 15:39.05 | Sevet | khaije1: same bug, the 6271 patch didn't fully close the hole |
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| 15:39.35 | Brigo | 6271 fix was not good enough: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=762760 |
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| 15:40.04 | Brigo | so they open another security bug. |
| 15:40.19 | mordocai | Right, but doesn't that mean the CVE-2014-6271 wasn't fixed? Seems confusing |
| 15:40.23 | khaije1 | Sevet: is the latter superceding? |
| 15:40.25 | Brigo | 7169 |
| 15:40.32 | Sevet | yes |
| 15:40.33 | mordocai | Same bug |
| 15:40.38 | mordocai | Different ttack |
| 15:40.40 | mordocai | attack* |
| 15:40.44 | mordocai | should be the same damn number |
| 15:40.53 | Brigo | mordocai, thety thought yes, but not completely. Check the link i have posted. |
| 15:41.05 | Sevet | new cve so people who think they already patched know they need another patch |
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| 15:41.48 | mordocai | Yeah, well that is what confused me at least. I was like "They are claiming they fixed it, but it isn't fixed!" because I knew about the second issue but not the second CVE |
| 15:42.02 | Sevet | is 7169 debian-specific, or is does it affect the way everyone attempted to fix 6271? |
| 15:42.10 | mordocai | I believe everyone |
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| 15:42.16 | khaije1 | Sevet: ok. that answers what would have been my next question |
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| 15:42.50 | CissWit | mordocai: the number is different because the bug was announced as closed many times. So opening a new one is a good way to have people aware of the new problem that arose |
| 15:43.22 | CissWit | it is just not usually happening the same day :) |
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| 15:43.40 | mordocai | Yeah, I was just explaining my confusion... I get it now... |
| 15:44.02 | mordocai | It would have confused me less to just announce that it wasn't fixed by that patch anymore, but i'm not everyone :P |
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| 15:44.23 | Sevet | i assume the ssh attack vector requires a valid username and password? |
| 15:44.34 | mordocai | I believe so |
| 15:44.58 | mordocai | One link I read at least said it required authentication, obviously public key would work too |
| 15:45.33 | Phil-Work | SSH doesn't seem to be much of an issue as the extra code will only run as the current user |
| 15:45.35 | nikomo | environment variables are handled before auth |
| 15:45.40 | nikomo | afaik |
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| 15:46.11 | mordocai | Yeah, I don't really know. Like I said, just a link I read said it required authentication and I don't remember which one |
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| 15:46.26 | Sevet | perhaps pam_exec for unauthenticated users? |
| 15:46.35 | Sevet | not that many people'll be using that |
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| 15:49.22 | TheWarden | I'm trying to install Debian on a new server and for some reason I keep getting an error "Back Archive Mirror". I changed consoles to 4 and I saw the following message |
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| 15:50.21 | TheWarden | "Choose mirror command: wget -q http://ftp3.nrc.ca/debian/dists/wheezy/Release -O 0 | grep -e '^(Suite|Codename):' |
| 15:50.30 | TheWarden | warning mirror does not support specified release (wheezy) |
| 15:50.40 | TheWarden | how can I fix this so I can install Debian properly? |
| 15:51.41 | jelly | TheWarden: pick a different mirror. |
| 15:51.42 | jhambo | Hi all, I'm running wheezy with foswiki (from the foswiki repository). I have some dependency problem that makes debian want to remove some essentials foswiki package (foswiki-jqueryplugin) when I try to update. I'd like to know if there is a way I can upgrade bash (to fix the vulnerability), without having to resolve all of these other issues. |
| 15:52.35 | TheWarden | jelly: Ahh I never picked the mirror mmm ahh I do have it defined in my preseed file to use ftp.ca.debian.org |
| 15:52.46 | khaije1 | dash v.0.5.7-4 is apparently vulnerable as well |
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| 15:53.28 | Brigo | khaije1, any link, please? |
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| 15:53.52 | heurist | jhambo: apt-get install bash should update it. |
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| 15:54.59 | jhambo | heurist: if I do that, I get "foswiki : Conflicts: foswiki-jqueryplugin, E: Unmet dependencies." |
| 15:55.24 | Brigo | jhambo, foswiki-jqueryplugin is no debian related. |
| 15:55.35 | khaije1 | i just tested in on my machine, running env vuln='test(){echo "body";}; echo "tail"' dash -c "echo test:" |
| 15:55.38 | heurist | jhambo: I can not help you with that. |
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| 15:56.10 | heurist | !tell jhambo -about frankendebian |
| 15:56.22 | jhambo | What I'm wondering is if it's possible update a package without resolving dependencies. |
| 15:56.25 | khaije1 | requests my dash test be validated or refuted |
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| 15:57.02 | jhambo | I agree I'm working with a frankendebian, but the question is purely debian |
| 15:57.06 | MasterXC | # env vuln='test(){echo "body";}; echo "tail"' dash -c "echo test:" |
| 15:57.07 | MasterXC | test: |
| 15:57.14 | MasterXC | that's what my box prints out |
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| 15:58.49 | TheWarden | jelly: I'm at the Configure Package Manager of the installer. I selected it in the menu and it pops up saying the message "Bad Archive Mirror" with option to continue with no mirror or go back. I don't see a spot to choose a different mirror server. |
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| 15:59.08 | slurpymcdurpy | here is a patch for bash: http://pastebin.com/mT7hY37Z |
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| 16:00.40 | centrx | consider me shocked |
| 16:00.52 | TheWarden | mmm must be a way to change the mirror |
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| 16:03.23 | khaije1 | MasterXC: correction on my part: I ran 'dash' then typed this in, env vuln='test(){echo "body";}; echo "tail"' echo "test-in-progress" |
| 16:03.43 | khaije1 | in my test it also seemed ok, so I withdraw my claim w/r/t dash |
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| 16:04.38 | centrx | khaije1, dash is the system shell linked to /bin/sh and used for system daemons, but not for the user shell |
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| 16:05.12 | centrx | khaije1, So dash invulnerability significantly reduces the attack surface, but many things do use bash |
| 16:05.27 | khaije1 | right, I was wondering if I could replace bash w/ dash on systems without immenent bash patches |
| 16:05.45 | khaije1 | if needed |
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| 16:07.17 | TheWarden | ahh actually this is a manual install without preseed file. Was just double checking my installer. So its picking the ftp3.nrc.ca archive mirror by itself. I'll look again but I don't see where I can pick a different mirror. |
| 16:07.27 | usrnix | is there a way to compile software (on a server) in a easy to update way? |
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| 16:12.10 | kernalogs2 | dash has an issue with very large sh files |
| 16:12.56 | kernalogs2 | bash in latest apt-get upgrade |
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| 16:13.26 | khaije1 | has there been any findings or tests produced which demonstrate the vulnerability of non-authenticated (drive-by) SSH connections to CVE...7169 ? |
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| 16:15.01 | khaije1 | I wouldnt expect unauthenticated SSH connection attempts to represent an attack surface but it was mentioned in the chan earlier |
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| 16:16.19 | juice23 | is security.debian.org having problems? |
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| 16:16.39 | juice23 | it seems to be getting stuck |
| 16:17.03 | Devastator | I'm running debian on a VM and I need to resize /, is there a way to do that without reformatting? |
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| 16:18.48 | heurist | juice23: maybe it is just busy and you need to be patient? |
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| 16:19.07 | booby_tables_24 | Devastator: Make a new disk and clone the old one |
| 16:19.19 | juice23 | heurist: i'm pretty patient, been at least two minutes |
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| 16:20.09 | kcc8429 | how important is the bash security update for someone who just uses the shell to ssh into local servers? |
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| 16:21.22 | Devastator | booby_tables_24 can you be more specific? |
| 16:22.16 | booby_tables_24 | You need to resize your partition, right? |
| 16:22.24 | Devastator | booby_tables_24 yes, / |
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| 16:23.15 | booby_tables_24 | Then, create a new virtual disk with the desired size. |
| 16:23.22 | booby_tables_24 | Attach it to the VM. |
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| 16:23.47 | booby_tables_24 | And clone the old one to the new one. |
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| 16:24.50 | baegle | I having trouble finding information on Debian's status resolving CVE-2014-7169. What's the Debian way to search for information on this CVE? |
| 16:25.26 | mtn | baegle: if you are talking about the bash thing, look at the topic of this channel ;) |
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| 16:25.51 | heurist | baegle: there is not fix for 7169 yet. debian is waiting for bash to fix it. no one has a fix yet. |
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| 16:26.12 | baegle | heurist: thanks, I may have gotten bad info from ##security then |
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| 16:26.37 | heurist | baegle: maybe they are talking about 6271 which is not 7169 |
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| 16:28.11 | baegle | heurist: Yeah, I tried to confirm that. It was a couple of hours ago |
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| 16:29.33 | heurist | baegle: 6271 is fixed, the fix is not complete. 7169 is the new cve that needs another fix. |
| 16:30.18 | baegle | heurist: yeah, someone in ##security said a second patch came out, but I can't find anything on it |
| 16:30.38 | baegle | heurist: So I think it may have just been a misunderstanding |
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| 16:32.33 | heurist | baegle: lots of confusion about which one people are talking about. https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-7169 is probably the best place to watch for updates. Debian was amongst the first to get a fix for 6271 deployed, so when there is a fix we can expect it soon. |
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| 16:38.48 | cockroach | hey. i'm having performance issues with an Intel "PRO/100" network controller. that is, i have two devices, both with pro/100 controllers, one works fine and the other one seems to have severe issues with full duplex connections (on wheezy, tried kernel 3.14 from backports). has anyone had similar issues? |
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| 16:43.38 | jolt | cockroach: Have you tried with another cable? Seen strange HW issues in the past |
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| 16:45.00 | cockroach | jolt: good point, i'll try. i'm quite certain that i've had the issue with other cables too but i'll check anyway. |
| 16:45.46 | heurist | cockroach: try the cable from the working card, you know that cable is good(ish) |
| 16:46.23 | heurist | cockroach: switch port too, all the hardware could be suspect. |
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| 16:47.11 | cockroach | heurist: aye |
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| 16:50.01 | cockroach | heurist: that didn't really help. here's the output from iperf (over a 100 mbit link): http://paste.debian.net/123067/ |
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| 16:50.38 | cockroach | this is what it looks like on the other machine, http://paste.debian.net/123068/ |
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| 16:52.23 | cockroach | they both have an 82801DB chip, one is rev 02, other other one rev 82. could it be an issue with IRQs or something? |
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| 16:57.55 | Devastator | I've already cloned my VM to a bigger virtual hdd, now how to resize / within console? |
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| 17:15.01 | petern__ | don't remember leaving this channel :S |
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| 17:16.10 | nully | Does anyone know how to get debuild to pass -j# to make, but not during during applying patches? |
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| 17:16.40 | Roenie | or don't you remember that either, petern__ |
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| 17:22.52 | puffie | how do I disable the built-in wpa_supplicant to manually run my own? I'm running Crunchgang and having trouble connecting to a hidden WPA-PSK netowrk |
| 17:23.18 | mtn | !crunchbang |
| 17:23.18 | dpkg | CrunchBang Linux is a Live CD distribution originally based on <Ubuntu>, now based on Debian as of version 10, featuring the <Openbox> window manager. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.crunchbang.org/ #crunchbang on irc.freenode.net. See <based on debian>. |
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| 17:23.40 | puffie | thanks mtn |
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| 17:25.41 | [robin] | shellshock |
| 17:25.42 | [robin] | help |
| 17:25.50 | [robin] | test string told I was vulnerable |
| 17:25.59 | [robin] | inhales deep breath. |
| 17:26.14 | [robin] | dpkg -l says that bash is 4.3-9 |
| 17:26.14 | dpkg | No packages found matching says that bash is 4.3-9 |
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| 17:26.42 | centrx | !security |
| 17:26.42 | dpkg | Put "deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib non-free" in your /etc/apt/sources.list file to keep up-to-date on security updates in <stable>. Run "aptitude update" and "aptitude upgrade" (or "aptitude full-upgrade" if the updates are kept back). Also ask me about <dsa>, <security backports>, <oldstable security>, <testing security>, <unstable security>, <browser security>. |
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| 17:27.33 | [robin] | I use apt-get |
| 17:27.41 | centrx | that's fine |
| 17:27.45 | [robin] | Okay. |
| 17:27.52 | [robin] | . /etc/apt/sources.list? |
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| 17:28.20 | centrx | Yes that lists the sources of your packages, what website, version, etc |
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| 17:28.48 | centrx | [robin], so security is a separate source |
| 17:28.54 | [robin] | I have deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main and I have deb-src [thesamelink] |
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| 17:29.21 | centrx | [robin], Okay, testing does not get security updates as promptly as stable and unstable |
| 17:29.34 | centrx | [robin], it should get there naturally today or tomorrow |
| 17:29.42 | jere_ | If I run, modprobe usb_storage, I get usb_storage not found. |
| 17:29.43 | centrx | [robin], You can also grab the updated version of bash from unstable |
| 17:29.43 | jere_ | Why is that? |
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| 17:30.14 | [robin] | centrx... if I replace... where it says jessie... with sid...? |
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| 17:30.42 | CarlGel | Hello, I'm installing Debian right now. For the partition I want to install to, I should have bootable flag on, and using ext4, right? |
| 17:30.46 | centrx | [robin], neither jessie or sid have anything at security.debian.org |
| 17:31.04 | [robin] | centrx, okay that was unrelated, sorry. |
| 17:31.15 | mtn | CarlGel: boot flag doesn't matter, ext4 is fine |
| 17:31.20 | [robin] | It was a vague stab at "Maybe I should upgrade to sid" |
| 17:31.29 | CarlGel | I'm also dualbooting, mtm, if it matters |
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| 17:31.38 | CarlGel | windows partition is already installed |
| 17:31.40 | [robin] | CarlGel it does not unless you install Windows not first. |
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| 17:31.54 | centrx | [robin], actually I am seeing now that the bash update has migrated to testing now |
| 17:32.02 | centrx | [robin], it may take a little while for your mirror to have it |
| 17:32.04 | mtn | CarlGel: it matters in some ways, but should install fine. just make sure which partition is being used for what |
| 17:32.09 | [robin] | centrx I upgraded five minutes ag |
| 17:32.15 | CarlGel | great. |
| 17:32.35 | [robin] | Spin around five times, hold my nose, recite a poem and upgrade again? |
| 17:32.36 | centrx | [robin], Try changing your mirror to http.debian.net |
| 17:32.49 | _FBi | when I try and : ip -6 addr add 2a00:d880:3:1::8d54:8cb5/64 dev eth0 : I get the reply File exists |
| 17:32.56 | [robin] | Same thing just without us? |
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| 17:33.12 | _FBi | but when I do ifconfig I only have one device |
| 17:33.18 | _FBi | I should have 16 |
| 17:33.44 | centrx | [robin], http.debian.net is a mirror redirector |
| 17:33.44 | [robin] | YES |
| 17:33.47 | [robin] | :D |
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| 17:33.54 | [robin] | Only one packag to be upgrade |
| 17:33.55 | [robin] | d |
| 17:33.57 | [robin] | bash |
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| 17:34.17 | [robin] | Phew, and I was worried somebody was going to smirk at my server being vulnerable. |
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| 17:34.36 | centrx | *smirk* |
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| 17:34.49 | [robin] | 8C |
| 17:35.00 | iveevue | How long is the next freeze expected to last? Isn't it usually 4 - 5 months or so? |
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| 17:35.40 | centrx | iveevue, Usually 6-8 months |
| 17:35.42 | heurist | iveevue: it lasts as long as it lasts |
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| 17:36.01 | centrx | iveevue, 4 months has happened once though IIRC |
| 17:36.17 | iveevue | I see |
| 17:36.37 | iveevue | 8 months is a lot of time for software to change... |
| 17:36.49 | centrx | it's a conservative estimate |
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| 17:40.38 | centrx | wheezy was 8-9 months |
| 17:40.49 | r3n1c0n | is away: BRB fixing some relaxsation #! :D |
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| 17:41.02 | centrx | squeeze was 6 months |
| 17:41.13 | centrx | iveevue, also the freeze is not a complete solid freeze |
| 17:41.36 | centrx | iveevue, in the most basic sense, it just means packages have to be approved, not automatic |
| 17:41.56 | iveevue | Ah |
| 17:42.45 | [robin] | Thank you guys. I'm going to reboot into Windows because I haven't fully migrated. Thank you. |
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| 17:59.41 | Sauvin | When will the bash vulnerability in debian oldstable be addressed? |
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| 18:06.33 | anonnumberanon | Hi how do I change the color of the prompt in the terminal. |
| 18:06.37 | anonnumberanon | ? |
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| 18:07.35 | Bombo | Sauvin: topic says it is in squeeze lts |
| 18:07.42 | dondelelcaro | anonnumberanon: depends on your shell, but in bash, you edit the PS1 env variable |
| 18:08.05 | dondelelcaro | anonnumberanon: there are lots of howtos on it, though. |
| 18:08.36 | Sauvin | OH! I'm an idiot - in order for the changes to take effect, a reboot needs to happen, OR a new login. |
| 18:08.40 | Sauvin | >.> |
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| 18:09.44 | anonnumberanon | dondelelcaro, how? |
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| 18:10.52 | dondelelcaro | anonnumberanon: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prompt-HOWTO/x329.html |
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| 18:16.31 | CarlGel | hello, I'm installing Debian, do I say NO to installing GRUB bootloader? I'm dualbooing, and windows is CURRENTLY installed |
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| 18:17.18 | format_c | CarlGel, grub usually detects Windows and offers it in the boot menu. So I'd choose "YES" |
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| 18:17.34 | CarlGel | okay, wanted to be sure :) |
| 18:17.50 | asturel | isnt the bash vuln patched in jessie? |
| 18:18.10 | Biifer | grub will also detect the windows installation if it's on a differnt disk. grub is good :) |
| 18:18.36 | heurist | asturel: the first one was patched recently in jessie. the second one is not patched anywhere |
| 18:19.09 | CarlGel | here comes moment of truth |
| 18:19.17 | asturel | but it says its patched in 4.3-9-1 but i have 4.3-9 |
| 18:19.27 | asturel | this https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-6271 |
| 18:19.37 | anonnumberanon | dondelelcaro, too time consuming, but thanks |
| 18:19.41 | CarlGel | cool I think it's working |
| 18:20.22 | asturel | or my apt source list is too old? |
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| 18:21.23 | karlpinc | asturel: apt-get update |
| 18:21.26 | asturel | i did |
| 18:21.29 | asturel | but i use ovh's mirror |
| 18:21.45 | asturel | deb http://mirror.ovh.net/ftp.debian.org/debian jessie main |
| 18:21.45 | asturel | deb http://security.debian.org/ jessie/updates main |
| 18:21.48 | karlpinc | asturel: Using security.debian.org? |
| 18:21.52 | asturel | should security contain it? |
| 18:22.32 | heurist | asturel: questions about jessie are better addressed to #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
| 18:23.06 | asturel | meh :( |
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| 18:31.18 | Junaos | Cheers all. Does CVE-2014-7169 currently apply to Debian? |
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| 18:31.30 | jhutchins | Junaos: shell shock? |
| 18:31.32 | Lolocafera | What do I do when this doesn't work? https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
| 18:32.03 | Junaos | jhutchins, Yes, on RedHat we got a bulletin that the original patch for shellshock (CVE-2014-6271) wasn't enough, and it was still exploitable (CVE-2014-7169). |
| 18:32.03 | jhutchins | No, that's 6271. |
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| 18:32.21 | jhutchins | Ooh, fun, hasn't hit my desk yet. |
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| 18:32.48 | Junaos | jhutchins, https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2014-7169 |
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| 18:34.57 | jhutchins | Junaos: Thanks! |
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| 18:35.16 | jhutchins | Junaos: I would assume that the vulnerability is in Debian as the patch was upstream. |
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| 18:36.00 | Garheade | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:36.04 | Garheade | argh |
| 18:36.06 | Garheade | sorry about that |
| 18:36.13 | Junaos | jhutchins, That's what I thought, I just wanted to verify. In a corp. env. where I have to submit a change request for anything as miniscule as a bash update -.- |
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| 18:39.56 | abrotman | Junaos: there's a method in the RH bugzilla to determine if you have the problem |
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| 18:41.07 | phy1729 | If a script in /etc/network/if-up.d/ has output, where would that get logged? |
| 18:41.18 | Junaos | abrotman, for the new CVE? Or the old? Because we patched all of our servers with the original patch, they all tested as vulnerable. I haven't seen the updated vuln. test, though. |
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| 18:42.05 | abrotman | Junaos: Both? Dunno, it says "Hey this is still broken, try this" |
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| 18:43.29 | Junaos | abrotman, I know that if I hunt I could find it, so I apologize, but I'm between 3 diff. machines trying to get all of our services patched as much as I can. Could you link me please? |
| 18:43.54 | abrotman | Junaos: moment |
| 18:43.58 | Junaos | tyty |
| 18:44.19 | Lolocafera | Anybody can help me? |
| 18:44.27 | abrotman | Junaos: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1141597 I think |
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| 18:44.40 | Junaos | Lolocafera, don't ask to ask, just ask :3 |
| 18:44.44 | Junaos | abrotman, Thank you sir |
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| 18:46.55 | Lolocafera | Junaos, already did |
| 18:47.00 | Lolocafera | What do I do when this doesn't work? https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
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| 18:47.37 | mtn | Lolocafera: you explain how it didn't work, etc. |
| 18:47.46 | mtn | !tell Lolocafera about ask |
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| 18:50.21 | Lolocafera | After I set a 20.nvidia.conf file under /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ my graphic environment simply didn't start. |
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| 18:51.09 | CarlGel | I didn't generate my config and now mine doesn't either. :v |
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| 18:51.29 | CarlGel | can't seem to get a terminal either |
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| 19:01.37 | john____2 | have you people seen what apt-get install autoconf does? |
| 19:01.45 | JohnTalent | ? |
| 19:02.06 | pankid | I am trying to figure out why my server crashed, but I cant find anything in the logs. |
| 19:02.12 | pankid | it is a very old box, if some hardware issue happened would I see anything in syslog? |
| 19:02.19 | JohnTalent | It's quite interesting, it sets up ugo+rw to /etc/alternatives links pointing to usr/bin utilities |
| 19:02.23 | mtn | JohnTalent: installs a package? that is what it does |
| 19:02.38 | jelly-home | JohnTalent: symlinks are always like that. |
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| 19:02.39 | JohnTalent | mtn: check your /etc/alternative dir after you apt-get install it |
| 19:02.45 | JohnTalent | mtn: can you do this name? |
| 19:02.50 | JohnTalent | mtn: can you do this now? |
| 19:02.57 | divxdude | anyone care to help with crunchbang? |
| 19:03.04 | pankid | divxdude, what is up? |
| 19:03.06 | mtn | divxdude: not in this channel |
| 19:03.08 | jelly-home | JohnTalent: check any other symlink you have on the filesystem |
| 19:03.21 | pankid | divxdude, maybe pm me? |
| 19:03.29 | divxdude | am i banned for asking or? |
| 19:03.38 | JohnTalent | bye |
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| 19:03.58 | pankid | divxdude, no, just pm me so we dont spam this channel |
| 19:03.59 | jelly-home | divxdude: you're not banned, but you should ask the channel for your distro |
| 19:04.02 | divxdude | erratic mouse with KVM |
| 19:04.08 | jelly-home | !crunchbang |
| 19:04.09 | dpkg | CrunchBang Linux is a Live CD distribution originally based on <Ubuntu>, now based on Debian as of version 10, featuring the <Openbox> window manager. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.crunchbang.org/ #crunchbang on irc.freenode.net. See <based on debian>. |
| 19:04.15 | divxdude | nobody answers , lol |
| 19:04.28 | jelly-home | divxdude: be patient, lol |
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| 19:05.19 | divxdude | so may i ask it here or no, you guys dont like a challenge? |
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| 19:05.49 | mtn | divxdude: no, not in this channel |
| 19:05.57 | pankid | divxdude, wat? they just told you to go to crunchbang. Has nothing to do with liking a challenge |
| 19:06.10 | divxdude | bah |
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| 19:06.26 | pankid | lol |
| 19:06.30 | mtn | meanies |
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| 19:32.59 | ZenWalke1 | hi |
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| 19:33.19 | ZenWalke1 | hurd on future stable debian jessie? |
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| 19:33.48 | avshalom | ZenWalke1: i doubt t |
| 19:34.45 | avshalom | but i really don't know. it's definitely usable, but a little unstable by debian "stable" criteria |
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| 19:37.15 | ZenWalke1 | avshalom: ok thanks |
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| 19:43.27 | kernalogs | man dd |
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| 19:45.25 | jerng | hi all! i'm trying running fail2ban (ssh), and it works well so far --- log says IP banned, mail is sent --- but i still can connect to ssh from the same (banned) machine. any hints? |
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| 19:46.08 | centrx | jerng, Is it being unbanned too quickly? |
| 19:46.16 | centrx | jerng, the default bans for only 10 minutes |
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| 19:46.42 | jerng | yeah, but i try to connect within those 10 minutes |
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| 19:48.18 | centrx | jerng, what does iptables -L look like? |
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| 19:49.28 | jerng | centrx: Oh! libkmod ERROR! seems the problem is a not-running iptables |
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| 19:50.01 | jerng | awkward.. |
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| 19:50.53 | TheWarden | okay fixed my first problem... now on to my next. |
| 19:50.58 | centrx | !next |
| 19:50.58 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
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| 19:51.37 | jerng | centrx: thx! |
| 19:51.48 | notR | hello! Could anyone please explain if it makes sense to use/enable selinux on a production ftp-only debian server, and how would that impact the system? Planning on using virtual users with proftpd |
| 19:51.55 | TheWarden | I need to configure grub to boot from the second drive of RAID1 (software RAID). Its my understanding I do this with the grub command. However I don't have a grub command. I have grub installed on the first hard drive in the RAID. |
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| 19:52.55 | TheWarden | so I thought this is strange I have various grub commands but not one called "grub". so I thought just install the package grub, however it appears to be uninstalling what I have already installed and replacing it. So ahh what package do I need or is there a newer command to set this up? |
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| 19:53.56 | heurist | TheWarden: try grub<tab> to get a list of grub commands. you are probably looking for grub-install |
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| 19:54.41 | CarlGel | ah wonderful, I've gotten everythnig running |
| 19:54.47 | TheWarden | heurist: yes I could try that. However looking at say this which is 4 years old it shows a grub console it seems. I don't seem to see that for grub-install. http://tarique21.wordpress.com/2010/05/12/configuring-grub-loader-to-boot-from-second-drive-of-raid1/ |
| 19:55.55 | heurist | TheWarden: see man grub-install |
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| 19:56.15 | TheWarden | heurist: I did, didn't see anything. I'll look again I guess. |
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| 19:57.58 | TheWarden | oh just grub-install /dev/sdb for some and it handles it for me. mmm I'll give that a try. |
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| 20:00.07 | Lolocafera | I want my GPU to work. My GPU is a GeForce 840M. My system is apparently an Optimus one |
| 20:00.26 | heurist | TheWarden: yep, if you only need to install grub to the bootsector of the drive. I assume you have /boot/ and such on both drives due to the raid. however you may need to tweak the grub.conf on the drives to use the correct disk, else you may need to handle that at the grub prompt during boot when disk 1 dies. |
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| 20:00.33 | Lolocafera | I'd like to have pointers towards something that WORKS |
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| 20:01.06 | slopjong | i'm not able to update bash on squeeze, anyone else? |
| 20:01.20 | centrx | slopjong, Are you using squeeze-lts? |
| 20:01.30 | heurist | !tell slopjong -about lts |
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| 20:01.48 | slopjong | centrx, i've added it to the sources list but nothing good really happens |
| 20:02.07 | slopjong | and i did an update afterwards |
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| 20:02.15 | slopjong | (package list update) |
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| 20:06.29 | ws2k3 | hello, does the nfs-user-server package exsist in debian? |
| 20:06.44 | ws2k3 | my server is a virtual one so i cannot install the kernel module |
| 20:07.00 | mtn | Lolocafera: did you look at the debian wiki bumblebee? I think there is a page for that. |
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| 20:07.07 | takeyourhatoff | Ok i have a freind who is trying to use some scripts i wrote on a server he does not have root on. Problem is this server does not have imagemagick installed and my scripts depend on it. He has tried to build it but is missing a load of dependancise, is there a way for him to apt-get source --compile and it download dependancies for him aswell? |
| 20:07.21 | centrx | takeyourhatoff, apt-get build-dep |
| 20:07.29 | badiane | hi! I was wondering if bash 4.3-9 is patched for the exploit. |
| 20:07.35 | takeyourhatoff | centrx: no root |
| 20:08.10 | Junaos | badiane, for 6271, yes. But 7169 hasn't been patched upstream AFAIK |
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| 20:08.38 | youellet | Someone ask me to read the french manuel in my linux, after enter rm fr/ to Read Manuel FRench my debian won't boot. |
| 20:08.40 | ianthius | darn, network connection died, did anyone answer my question while I was away? :) |
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| 20:09.27 | Junaos | youellet, Was it rm -fr / ? |
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| 20:09.38 | youellet | yes |
| 20:09.50 | Junaos | youellet, You need to reinstall Linux. Someone tricked you. |
| 20:09.52 | Junaos | You deleted everything on your computer. |
| 20:09.56 | heurist | youellet: do not run random commands from people. |
| 20:10.22 | ws2k3 | is it possible to run a NFS server as user space instead of kernel? |
| 20:10.24 | youellet | Ok |
| 20:10.29 | badiane | @Junaos: Thanks. I just upgraded one system and but another didn't seem to upgrade. I'll check to see what's different. |
| 20:10.57 | centrx | badiane, 4.3-9.1 is in unstable but some of the mirrors don't have it in testing yet |
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| 20:11.51 | ws2k3 | is it possible to run a NFS server as user space instead of kernel? |
| 20:11.54 | badiane | ii bash 4.2+dfsg-0.1+deb7u1 |
| 20:11.54 | badiane | on one system |
| 20:11.59 | badiane | that one is OK. |
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| 20:12.03 | dutchfish | ws2k3, you mean mount a NFS share as a regular user? |
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| 20:12.44 | ws2k3 | dutchfish no my debian server is a openvz container so i cannot change the kernel so i cannot use nfs-kernel-server |
| 20:12.56 | heurist | badiane: that is the stable version patched for the first bug |
| 20:13.36 | badiane | I have testing on the other machines. |
| 20:13.56 | badiane | ah, PEBKAC |
| 20:14.05 | Lolocafera | mtn, Yep, followed all the instructions. Didn't work. |
| 20:14.06 | badiane | I didn't update my cache, so ... |
| 20:14.21 | badiane | updated now |
| 20:14.39 | mtn | Lolocafera: did you explain here how it didn't work? |
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| 20:16.08 | johtso | how do I populate my sources.list? currently it just contains cdrom |
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| 20:16.29 | ws2k3 | dutchfish any idea's if i can run an nfs server without the kernel module ? |
| 20:16.50 | mtn | !tell johtso about wheezy sources.list |
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| 20:17.36 | johtso | @mtn cheers! |
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| 20:18.38 | ianthius | i just posted a question earlier that i would like to take to another channel and I don't feel like rewriting it. can someone msg it to me? :P |
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| 20:19.32 | imaami | my debian unstable box (up to date) can't boot. /usr is an LVM volume and init fails to activate it, drops to busybox. what gives? |
| 20:19.32 | Lolocafera | mtn, this is a chat, not a forum. I think I explained it all at some point. |
| 20:19.35 | ianthius | ecksun: thanks! |
| 20:19.36 | imaami | problem started today |
| 20:19.37 | ecksun | ianthius, nps |
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| 20:20.16 | Lolocafera | mtn, I'm not sure what I should explain right now. |
| 20:20.23 | mtn | Lolocafera: I am sure you did, but do you think everyone here remembers what you said? best bet is to resend your question every 15 minutes or so. |
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| 20:20.38 | Lolocafera | precisely |
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| 20:22.09 | ws2k3 | is there a user space nfs server for debian ? |
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| 20:22.21 | Lolocafera | okay, here I go: I want the GeForce 840M of my MSI GP 2PE Leopard to work with Debian |
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| 20:24.40 | ws2k3 | is there a user space nfs server for debian ? |
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| 20:25.03 | centrx | ws2k3, maybe with "fuse" ? |
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| 20:25.33 | ws2k3 | centrx hmm |
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| 20:26.21 | kaictl | Okay, is there a way to see when a package was built using dpkg or apt? |
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| 20:27.03 | centrx | kaictl, probably not, cmd -v version information is likely to have it |
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| 20:28.16 | kaictl | ...wow. that's actually really bad. I like apt, but that's not good. |
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| 20:35.59 | setuid | I've got a Squeeze server, public-facing webserver. Where do I find a backport for the remote bash exploit? |
| 20:36.10 | centrx | !squeeze-lts |
| 20:36.10 | dpkg | Volunteer-provided security support for Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" will continue until 2016-02-06 for a limited set of packages for i386 and amd64. An appropriate line for your sources.list is «deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ squeeze-lts main». See also the «check-support-status» command from the debian-security-support package and https://wiki.debian.org/LTS for more information. #debian-lts on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 20:36.32 | setuid | centrx, perfect, thanks! |
| 20:36.49 | setuid | Pulling packages now |
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| 20:40.28 | j0n17 | Hey guys, Could someone help me with iptables, I've installed a pptp vpn on a cloud vps, which is working, and i've configured an hostap on my Pi, which is also working, but I can't figure out how to forward everything from my Pi to my VPN |
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| 20:42.06 | crhylove | I've asked in here before, but I'm suddenly getting dhcp IPs rather than the statics I have setup in /etc/network/interfaces. What's the proper fix to ensure I keep my static IP? |
| 20:42.25 | crhylove | (fixed it last time, but forgot the fix! DOH!) |
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| 20:42.34 | petn-randall | crhylove: how does your /etc/network/interfaces look like? |
| 20:42.48 | petn-randall | crhylove: You can paste it to http://paste.debian.net. |
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| 20:43.27 | CarlGel | Hi, I'm using xfce, and I was wondering if there is a way to have clicking the middle-mouse button trigger scrolling with moving the mouse, like in Windows. |
| 20:43.44 | heurist | crhylove: apt-get remove isc-dhcp-client ? |
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| 20:44.38 | crhylove | http://imgur.com/oJGHS8D |
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| 20:45.23 | crhylove | lol, left one of my IPs. Luckily it's a short-timer |
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| 20:46.35 | mtn | crhylove: are you running networkmanager? |
| 20:47.20 | crhylove | I don't know! /me goes to check |
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| 20:50.05 | crhylove | dhclient -v -pf is in htop |
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| 20:51.03 | crhylove | dhclient -v -pf /run/dhclient.eth0.pid -lf /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient.eth0.leases eth0 |
| 20:51.56 | crhylove | How do I make sure that doesn't come back on reboot? |
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| 20:52.12 | heurist | crhylove: uninstall it |
| 20:52.36 | crhylove | Unable to locate package dhclient |
| 20:52.43 | heurist | crhylove: apt-get remove isc-dhcp-client |
| 20:53.08 | crhylove | Ah... Already did that one. :) |
| 20:53.13 | crhylove | goes for init 6 |
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| 20:55.58 | crhylove | Looks like that worked! Thanks! That command is now wikified. So next time I'll have a NEW stupid question. |
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| 21:09.05 | ololorin | is there a place where i can find debian jessie live cd? |
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| 21:16.11 | jhutchins | crhylove: No need to reboot if you just kill dhclient. |
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| 21:22.40 | adam1 | Hi, i have a .bdf font i would like to use, i have installed them to ~/.fonts/fontfamilydirectory , i use fc-cache -fv and it detects the fonts. However font manager does not detect them. any ideas? |
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| 21:24.56 | r-x-w- | adam1: xset fp rehash |
| 21:25.00 | dthrvr | for those in hurry: http://security.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/b/bash/bash_4.2+dfsg-0.1+deb7u3_amd64.deb (fixes CVE-2014-7169) |
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| 21:26.04 | adam1 | r-x-w-: what does that do? |
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| 21:26.56 | w0rm_ | is GNU icecat pre-installed in debian? |
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| 21:27.34 | r-x-w- | adam1: rehashes and reloads the list of fonts fed to the X server |
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| 21:29.15 | adam1 | r-x-w-: do i have to do fc-cache again? |
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| 21:29.18 | heurist | w0rm_: iceweasel is *available* in debian, there is not icecat |
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| 21:29.43 | Z1T1TTT | I manually connect my openVPN from terminal each time. how can i make it automatic? |
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| 21:30.28 | r-x-w- | adam1: no, just restart your application and the fonts should appear |
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| 21:32.28 | adam1 | r-x-w-: no they still are not appearing, is it because they are .bdf? |
| 21:32.30 | r-x-w- | Z1T1TTT: What does your /etc/default/openvpn look like? |
| 21:32.50 | r-x-w- | adam1: might be. |
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| 21:33.22 | Z1T1TTT | r-x-w-: no such directopry here |
| 21:33.25 | adam1 | r-x-w-: how do i get the actual name of the font so i can apply it in my .Xdefaults? |
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| 21:34.55 | karlpinc | Z1T1TTT: What version of Debian? |
| 21:34.56 | r-x-w- | Z1T1TTT: well, the file /etc/default/openvpn usually has an AUTOSTART directive with a profile as an argument you need to uncomment |
| 21:35.45 | Z1T1TTT | karlpinc: wheezy |
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| 21:36.03 | karlpinc | Z1T1TTT: Very strange. It should be there. |
| 21:36.13 | heurist | Z1T1TTT: how did you install openvpn? |
| 21:36.24 | karlpinc | heurist: Good question. |
| 21:37.15 | Z1T1TTT | karlpinc: heurist foind it. ill upload on paste.debian now |
| 21:37.34 | Z1T1TTT | here.. http://paste.debian.net/123137/ |
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| 21:38.01 | r-x-w- | adam1: Sorry, I have no experience with bitmap fonts not being available after fp-cache -fv&&xset fp rehash |
| 21:38.16 | karlpinc | Z1T1TTT: You may want to: zless /usr/share/doc/openvpn/README.Debian.gz |
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| 21:39.06 | r-x-w- | Z1T1TTT: just change #AUTOSTART="all" to AUTOSTART="all" |
| 21:39.12 | heurist | karlpinc: does your less not handle .gz files? |
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| 21:40.19 | babilen | fyi: a new bash package just hit security, get it while its hot |
| 21:40.20 | Z1T1TTT | r-x-w-: ok |
| 21:40.39 | adam1 | r-x-w-: ok, thankyou for your help :-) |
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| 21:41.52 | Z1T1TTT | r-x-w-: I did the change u suggested. |
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| 21:42.58 | DutchWolfie | Good evening |
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| 21:43.30 | johnny_|_ | Oh hi, where have you been? |
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| 21:43.54 | DutchWolfie | I seem to have a major problem with mysql after an squeeze - wheezy upgrade |
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| 21:44.04 | Z1T1TTT | r-x-w-: but where do I put the user/pass... so I wont have to enter them manually each time? |
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| 21:44.35 | DutchWolfie | i can't get the mysql service started |
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| 21:45.32 | r-x-w- | Z1T1TTT: err generate certificates? |
| 21:45.48 | Z1T1TTT | r-x-w-: ok |
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| 21:46.39 | TheWarden | is there a way to take screen shots during installation of Debian? |
| 21:46.51 | TheWarden | btw, I'm installing off USB. |
| 21:47.16 | heurist | TheWarden: use your phone/camera? |
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| 21:47.57 | TheWarden | heurist: yes I could, just wondering if there was some command that does it. I see so many screen shots online and they look like there taking without a camera. Maybe there doing it via virtual machine to achieve it. |
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| 21:49.20 | heurist | TheWarden: debian's installer is text-based, so picture screenshots are probably done with a vm or external recorder (hdmi maybe) |
| 21:49.41 | TheWarden | heurist: ahh okay. Thanks |
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| 21:52.02 | baegle | babilen: New bash package for what?! |
| 21:52.14 | baegle | babilen: I don't see a patch for CVE-2014-7169 anywhere |
| 21:52.45 | cuqa | https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-6271 |
| 21:53.11 | heurist | baegle: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-7169 says fixed for wheezy sec |
| 21:53.44 | cuqa | does not seem to be true |
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| 21:53.47 | baegle | heurist: how? |
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| 21:54.00 | aswen | Hi there, I want to execute a command before my laptop suspends when I close the lid. Can anyone point me in the right direction? |
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| 21:54.03 | cuqa | http://pastie.org/private/dy3nkr1vrua7xtiq7bblbg |
| 21:54.18 | heurist | baegle: no idea. debian sec team took measures? |
| 21:55.05 | centrx | https://lists.debian.org/debian-security-announce/2014/msg00223.html |
| 21:55.25 | thoonai | hey |
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| 21:55.46 | thoonai | my ldapadd hangs a long time (>3min) after entering my password |
| 21:55.48 | garyserj | I set wireless to off and want to set it back to on but the option has gone. I think i'm on gnome |
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| 21:56.41 | r-x-w- | How do I generate a PKCS#12 with openssl from a private key and a public key that includes root certificates? |
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| 21:57.46 | astro73|work | how come there's python-protobuf but not python3-protobuf? |
| 21:58.20 | baegle | centrx: Do you have any other informatin on this? |
| 21:58.32 | centrx | baegle, look up the CVE ID |
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| 21:58.50 | baegle | centrx: I did, I don't see a patch anywhere submitted by Tavis Ormandy yet |
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| 22:00.34 | garyserj | oh i see what hapepned.. when i chose wireless off it turned off wireless on my keyboard like hitting the function key |
| 22:01.04 | r-x-w- | baegle: o_/ apt-gettion updatrix&&apt-gettanium upgradon |
| 22:01.15 | centrx | baegle, https://twitter.com/taviso |
| 22:01.18 | Eduard_Munteanu | r-x-w-, openssl pkcs12 -chain ? |
| 22:01.18 | r-x-w- | baegle: It's not magic. |
| 22:01.20 | babilen | baegle: fwiw, I'm referring to 4.2+dfsg-0.1+deb7u3 |
| 22:01.40 | thoonai | ok my bad, got it fixed |
| 22:01.44 | babilen | check it's changelog and source package for details |
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| 22:03.02 | Eduard_Munteanu | r-x-w-, you need to generate the plain X509 cert first though |
| 22:03.24 | r-x-w- | Eduard_Munteanu: I'll try, but the -chain does looks promising-- I'll give it another go. |
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| 22:03.47 | cuqa | debian just released the fix |
| 22:03.53 | cuqa | deb7u3 seems to solve it |
| 22:04.12 | arcke | cuqa: it solves some issues |
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| 22:04.59 | arcke | i dont think this will be the last patch to come |
| 22:05.25 | cuqa | maybe tommorrow bash will be removed from the linux world |
| 22:05.36 | thoonai | is there a possibillity to keep two locations in sync in 'real time' and not with cronjob and rsync? |
| 22:05.41 | arcke | i used to be safe with ksh |
| 22:05.53 | arcke | these days all i have is linux |
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| 22:07.49 | cuqa | just figured out some servers give different results at version 4.2+dfsg-0.1+deb7u3 for X='() { function a a>\' bash -c echo; [ -e echo ] && echo "hacked" |
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| 22:10.13 | Brigo | cuqa, do you logout and login? i have no problems. |
| 22:10.30 | imaami | cuqa: argh, i thought the issue was fixed but no |
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| 22:11.18 | imaami | i have a freshly updated bash 4.3-9.1 from unstable and it's still vulnerable |
| 22:11.33 | imaami | damn it |
| 22:11.49 | heurist | imaami: yes, only stable is "fixed". |
| 22:11.57 | imaami | heurist: bah |
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| 22:12.13 | heurist | imaami: that is why we run stable. |
| 22:12.22 | nikio | hey i ran a program in termina but it didnt run as expected |
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| 22:12.26 | nikio | and it didnt stop |
| 22:12.28 | nikio | how do i quit it |
| 22:12.40 | heurist | nikio: ctrl-c ? |
| 22:12.48 | imaami | "we", as in people with less drive to experiment |
| 22:12.51 | nikio | cool |
| 22:12.53 | nikio | thx |
| 22:13.06 | arcke | heurist: still, stable was exploitable for many years and >24hrs of zero-day exposure |
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| 22:13.25 | heurist | imaami: "we" as in people in the "stable" debian channel (: |
| 22:13.27 | imaami | if i hurt myself on the bleeding edge then they can't take me alive! *manic laughter* |
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| 22:13.47 | imaami | heurist: oh, this is by definition for the stable branch only? didn't know, sorry |
| 22:13.47 | thoonai | calls Arkham Asylum |
| 22:13.48 | heurist | arcke: 20 years! |
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| 22:14.19 | heurist | !tell imaami -about debian-next |
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| 22:14.30 | imaami | heurist: i'm on there already actually |
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| 22:14.39 | heurist | imaami: no worries |
| 22:14.42 | ilk | hey guys feeling chatty? /join the party at irc.partydome.us #party |
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| 22:15.04 | civillian | imaami: im on unstable and 4.3-9.1 is fixed |
| 22:15.15 | civillian | err testing rather |
| 22:15.19 | civillian | but its the same package |
| 22:15.42 | heurist | civillian: only fixed for 6271 not 7169 |
| 22:15.55 | heurist | civillian: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-7169 |
| 22:16.00 | imaami | civillian: yeah no |
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| 22:17.08 | cuqa | Brigo, yes logged out and in |
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| 22:18.04 | heurist | cuqa: those tests spawn a new bash anyway, so it does not matter to the test if you relog |
| 22:18.12 | civillian | heurist: there are two... :( |
| 22:18.27 | civillian | shakes fist |
| 22:18.28 | heurist | civillian: they tend to breed. |
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| 22:19.00 | imaami | nothing is a better breeding ground for bugs than a quickly coded fix made under stress |
| 22:19.23 | imaami | i can imagine how it feels like to have an open CVE breathing down yer pants |
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| 22:20.04 | heurist | imaami: in this case an ancient bug was found and "fixed" this made people take a look the code and find other ways to exploit the same sort of thing. quite normal |
| 22:20.09 | civillian | So it was introduced in the latest patch? |
| 22:20.14 | babilen | heurist: You are aware that those websites are updated manually and don't necessarily reflect the situation on the mirrors in real time, aren't you? |
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| 22:20.54 | heurist | babilen: sure, but they have been pretty good on this one. and where else can I send people? |
| 22:21.29 | babilen | nowhere, just wanted to point it out. either way, late now. g'night :) |
| 22:21.41 | heurist | babilen: gnight |
| 22:22.10 | civillian | anyone happen to have a test for the Apache HTTPD/CGI vector? |
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| 22:47.08 | movic | hi guys, how to add service to be started on boot up, but as last one service |
| 22:47.09 | movic | ? |
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| 22:48.01 | loeken | movic, man update-rc.d |
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| 22:50.06 | rapha | Hi! |
| 22:51.03 | rapha | Just installed a new bash package. Unfortunately the shellshock problem doesn't seem to be fixed: |
| 22:51.14 | rapha | env X='() { (a)=>\' sh -c "echo date"; cat echo |
| 22:51.14 | rapha | date |
| 22:51.14 | rapha | Thu Sep 25 17:33:38 CEST 2014 |
| 22:51.26 | rapha | thought you guys might want to fix that for real... |
| 22:51.37 | heurist | rapha: what version you running? |
| 22:51.58 | tsam | rapha: it's only fixed in stable |
| 22:51.59 | rapha | heurist: it says of itself: "GNU bash, version 4.2.37(1)-release (x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)" |
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| 22:52.18 | rapha | tsam: i'm on debian 7.6 |
| 22:53.23 | tsam | rapha: so stable. You shouldn't have the bug when you update bash. |
| 22:53.33 | tsam | rapha: do you have in your sources.list? |
| 22:53.43 | rapha | tsam: have what? |
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| 22:54.32 | tsam | rapha: paste the content of your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 22:54.56 | kcc8429 | can anyone recommend a lightweight epub & mobi reader for debian? |
| 22:55.02 | heurist | rapha: what does apt-cache policy bash say? |
| 22:55.38 | rapha | tsam: http://pastebin.com/QWv28Acs |
| 22:55.44 | heurist | kcc8429: fbreader is not bad. could be more lightweight though. |
| 22:55.48 | narcarsiss | kcc8429: Okular. Apt-get install okular |
| 22:56.00 | narcarsiss | It's what i use |
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| 22:56.09 | Brigo | why cat echo? :-m |
| 22:56.17 | rapha | heurist: http://pastebin.com/AZ7d3BbL |
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| 22:56.57 | rapha | tsam: i got an update yesterday, and one just now. i think it's the correct one. and it does fix one of the vulnerability tests, but not the newer one. |
| 22:56.57 | heurist | rapha: deb7u3 is the fixed one, you should be good. |
| 22:57.09 | kcc8429 | narcarsiss: i said lightweight. okular wants to install 290mb worth of data |
| 22:57.12 | kcc8429 | heurist: thanks |
| 22:57.42 | narcarsiss | See i call that light weight :/ Got a tonne of handy features i use. Sorry. |
| 22:57.53 | rapha | heurist: except i'm (and everybody else is) not. see my paste above. it does not respond to the older vulnerabilty test positively, but it does to the newer. |
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| 22:58.23 | kcc8429 | narcarsiss: no problem. thanks anyways though |
| 22:58.35 | tsam | rapha: I have the same bash and it fixed if for me. I don't know what to tell you. |
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| 22:58.46 | rapha | tsam: you mean this test: env x='() { :;}; echo vulnerable' bash -c "echo test" |
| 22:58.47 | Junaos | rapha: Did you log out and log back in to use the new bash after updating? |
| 22:58.48 | narcarsiss | Otherwise a windows Equiv would be Foxit :) Take care |
| 22:59.01 | rapha | tsam: try this one: env X='() { (a)=>\' sh -c "echo date"; cat echo |
| 22:59.12 | heurist | kcc8429: or install epub-utils and do something like einfo -qqp *.epub | w3m -T text/html |
| 22:59.20 | rapha | Junaos: see https://twitter.com/taviso/status/514887394294652929 |
| 22:59.34 | Junaos | rapha: because, on a wheezy server: http://pastebin.com/Xxu0wsgc |
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| 23:00.00 | Brigo | rapha, the test fails in my server. |
| 23:00.07 | Junaos | Fails on my server as well. |
| 23:00.37 | kcc8429 | heurist: interesting. thanks |
| 23:00.38 | rapha | wierd ... why is it working on mine then if we have the same bash version? |
| 23:00.50 | Junaos | rapha, Did you log out and log back in to start a new bash instance? |
| 23:01.00 | rapha | Junaos: of course. |
| 23:01.22 | Brigo | echo $BASH_VERSION 4.2.37(1)-release |
| 23:01.31 | heurist | Junaos: remember the sh might not be bash |
| 23:01.47 | Junaos | True. |
| 23:01.49 | rapha | Brigo: same for me |
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| 23:02.16 | Brigo | root /tmp # echo $BASH_VERSION; root /tmp # echo $BASH_VERSION; cd /tmp; env X='() { (a)=>\' bash -c "echo date"; cat echo; rm echocd /tmp; env X='() { (a)=>\' bash -c "echo date"; cat echo; rm echo |
| 23:02.16 | Brigo | 4.2.37(1)-release |
| 23:02.16 | Brigo | -bash: root: command not found |
| 23:02.16 | Brigo | root /tmp # |
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| 23:02.34 | rapha | whoops... |
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| 23:02.42 | Brigo | dammit :) |
| 23:02.47 | rapha | sorry buddy :) |
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| 23:03.15 | Brigo | no, my fault, i thought i will paste less lines. |
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| 23:04.10 | rapha | wierd problems are often solved by a reboot... |
| 23:04.11 | Brigo | may be something at bash configuration level, like bash_completion or so ... |
| 23:04.23 | rapha | or that, more logical :-P |
| 23:04.30 | rapha | but not tonight |
| 23:04.32 | rapha | thanks everybody! |
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| 23:10.57 | Twinkletoes | I've been trying for hours... I'm using heirloom-mailx to mail results of cron jobs, I set the envelope sender address using -r, and the subject using -s, but I can't change the NAME which it appears to come from. How can I do this? |
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| 23:14.05 | cuqa_ | Twinkletoes, maybe MAILFROM="bla@foo.com" works |
| 23:14.19 | Twinkletoes | cuqa_: Lemme try... |
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| 23:15.49 | Twinkletoes | cuqa_: I now get "A Sender: field is required with multiple addresses in From: field" |
| 23:16.41 | garyserj | does the second answer here work Twinkletoes |
| 23:16.42 | garyserj | http://superuser.com/questions/137461/does-mailx-send-mail-using-an-smtp-relay-or-does-it-directly-connect-to-the-targ |
| 23:17.16 | garyserj | -S from="$FROM_EMAIL_ADDRESS($FRIENDLY_NAME)" |
| 23:17.23 | Twinkletoes | garyserj: Ah! |
| 23:17.39 | Twinkletoes | garyserj: And I also found this text on that page... "You can also put these into mailx's configuration file ~/.mailrc" |
| 23:17.47 | Twinkletoes | garyserj: Where was that mentioned in man mailx? |
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| 23:18.11 | Twinkletoes | Ah, there it is my bad - let me try |
| 23:19.53 | garyserj | maybe that the variable can be a string option, then string options listed later in the man page |
| 23:21.39 | movic | guys, I have a problem with boot sequence. When I add udhcpd service into boot, the wlan0 didnt listen on specific ip/port |
| 23:22.12 | movic | without udhcpd in boot, everythign set up correctly |
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| 23:27.59 | civillian | seems 4.3-9.2 is now avaiable in unstable |
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| 23:28.33 | phantomcircuit | er um |
| 23:28.35 | narcarsiss | A way in Windows to Update 7.6 Kernel to 3.10 atleast? Been as 7.6 dont detect My lan,wifi,backlight,or trackpad |
| 23:28.43 | phantomcircuit | i just strace'd apt-get update |
| 23:28.45 | phantomcircuit | 16:18:52.447789 fcntl(999999, F_SETFD, FD_CLOEXEC) = -1 EBADF (Bad file descriptor) <0.000010> |
| 23:28.56 | phantomcircuit | seems like a bug |
| 23:30.04 | usrnix | why has this failed and how can I fix it?: http://paste.debian.net/plainh/2bd442b1 I have nginx-full installed and tried to install nginx-extras, which conflicts and I allowed it to remove nginx-full first (all via aptitude, nothing weird) |
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| 23:32.26 | narcarsiss | usrnix Do you Have apache installed? If i recall corectly It uses one of the Packages from it? Might need to be checked tho |
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| 23:34.46 | narcarsiss | usrnix: Post the output of this: dkpg --configure -D 777 gconf2 |
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| 23:36.35 | usrnix | narcarsiss: I don't have apache installed, that command gives similar error: dpkg: error processing package gconf2 (--configure): package gconf2 is already installed and configured ... |
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| 23:37.50 | narcarsiss | I had a similer issue the Other night with php5-common I had to force stable install of that package. to fix it. Might be worth trying that? |
| 23:39.13 | narcarsiss | have you run aptitude install -f ? |
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| 23:45.43 | Denise_B | I've installed the patched version of Bash from wheezy's security repositories and closed all Bash shells, logged out of SSH, etc. The proof of concept confirms that I'm patched after SSH-ing back in. Is there anything else I need to do or am I good to go? |
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| 23:46.19 | centrx | Denise_B, Do you have -9.1 or -9.2 bash package installed |
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| 23:47.21 | Denise_B | centrx: The package I have installed is '4.2+dfsg-0.1+deb7u3', if that's what you mean. |
| 23:47.32 | Denise_B | I'm not sure where to find what you mentioned. |
| 23:48.12 | centrx | Denise_B, ok yes I gave the wrong numbers for stable |
| 23:48.20 | centrx | Denise_B, 4.2+dfsg-0.1+deb7u3 is the latest, fully patched version |
| 23:48.24 | LinuxGuy2020 | Can adding backported packages cause a program to misbehave? Debian has always been extremely stable for me until recently. I am either experiencing a bug in a package and Im the only one in the world with it, or backported MATE desktop install has caused the program in question to misbehave. Im speaking of the soundconverter package. I used to use it to convert FLAC files ripped from my CD collection to AAC. However I have the faac pack |
| 23:48.49 | Denise_B | I see. Aside from closing any Bash shells open from before patching, do I need to do anything else? |
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| 23:49.13 | Denise_B | Sorry for asking, but I'm a bit new to all of this. :p |
| 23:49.21 | Brigo | Denise_B, i think you are ok, now if you are in wheezy. |
| 23:49.41 | Denise_B | Okay, thanks a lot. |
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| 23:50.36 | robinsz | so, do I need to start crapping myself about the bash vulnerability thing? |
| 23:51.23 | centrx | negatory |
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| 23:51.29 | robinsz | so, do I need to start crapping myself about the bash vulnerability thing? |
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| 23:51.33 | robinsz | from what I can gather, it only affects people with cgi's using using bash, which is like no one, right |
| 23:51.42 | robinsz | ok |
| 23:52.02 | usrnix | why does aptitude install -f keep wanting to install loads of kde? I've tried removing as many kde packages as possible and can't get apt to forget about it, anyone know how I can make sure kde is gone completely? |
| 23:52.12 | robinsz | and debian uses Dash, right? |
| 23:52.41 | cuqa_ | apt-get clean, apt-get autoclean, apt-get autoremove |
| 23:52.42 | garyserj | I had something a bit like that with one package.. |
| 23:53.04 | garyserj | the suggestion was.. something like.. removing some files.. |
| 23:53.06 | garyserj | i'll see |
| 23:53.13 | cuqa_ | maybe also there is one package that depends on those packages and is not yet installed but wants those packages to be installed with -f |
| 23:53.32 | cuqa_ | then you should apt-get remove this package |
| 23:53.56 | Denise_B | robinsz: Update Bash and restart any Bash shells you've got open. Debian uses Bash for a lot of things. I'm no expert but I just asked and #debian said that should be enough. |
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| 23:54.45 | robinsz | im not seeing any updates for bash waiting |
| 23:54.53 | usrnix | cuqa_: those commands didn't solve it, do you know way to find out what package depends on x? |
| 23:55.13 | cuqa_ | nope, not rly familiar with apt :/ |
| 23:56.01 | themill | usrnix: there is no package "keep" |
| 23:56.11 | garyserj | usrnix: for ssmtp I tried /var/lib/dpkg/info/ssmtp* |
| 23:56.22 | garyserj | maybe mv all those files out.. then dod apt-get again |
| 23:56.40 | usrnix | themill: not sure what you mean |
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| 23:56.57 | themill | oh, I understand now. Please put the entire output in a pastebin for us |
| 23:58.27 | usrnix | themill: well basically dpkg is failing to configure nginx-extras, i had nginx-full installed. that's about it, i was going to try aptitude install -f but it's trying to install loads of kde i'd rather not |
| 23:59.05 | themill | usrnix: use "apt-get -f install" then. It's still important to see the full output rather than a summary of it |
