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| 00:00.26 | mtn | mwargh: not on debian, anyway. unless you really messed with your sources |
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| 00:04.24 | mwargh | not on debian, true, it screwed up ubuntu update |
| 00:04.47 | rudi_s | Don't use Ubuntu then ;-) |
| 00:04.58 | mwargh | i use debian on servers |
| 00:05.48 | mwargh | so far it was nice to use |
| 00:05.59 | mwargh | i hope it will be as well |
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| 00:06.47 | groidhunter | should i download the latest bios from the nsa.gov site? |
| 00:07.34 | mwargh | lol |
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| 00:31.31 | sadtaco | If I restrict iptables to only accept ssh login from my ip, what do I do if my ip changes? |
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| 00:33.03 | Brigo | sadtaco, modifi the iptables? :) |
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| 00:33.16 | sadtaco | How, if I can't log in with ssh? :p |
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| 00:33.45 | Brigo | sadtaco, so do not restrict iptables to only your ip :) |
| 00:33.55 | Brigo | it is not secure :D |
| 00:34.06 | sadtaco | Heh. What would you recommend I do? |
| 00:34.24 | Brigo | if you want a more secure ssh server change the default port |
| 00:34.42 | Brigo | and, if more, use port knocking. |
| 00:35.12 | sadtaco | I have changed hte default port. Still worried. |
| 00:35.24 | Brigo | port knocking |
| 00:35.28 | sadtaco | Also uh |
| 00:35.29 | mwargh | sadtaco: disable password auth |
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| 00:35.37 | mwargh | sadtaco: just disable |
| 00:35.37 | sadtaco | mwargh, yeah I guess I should.. |
| 00:35.51 | mwargh | sadtaco: just do it :) |
| 00:35.56 | sadtaco | Okay I will |
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| 00:36.06 | sadtaco | How do you log in with "su" then? Like I need to empty my nginx/error.log file and I don't have privs to. |
| 00:36.24 | mwargh | sadtaco: sudo -s |
| 00:36.40 | mwargh | sadtaco: you'll have your password in system |
| 00:36.49 | mwargh | sadtaco: you'll just disable password auth in sshd_config |
| 00:37.16 | sadtaco | Oh I was trying "su" instead of sudo -s. Derp. |
| 00:37.33 | Brigo | the problem is the same: you only can login from your computer. |
| 00:37.46 | mwargh | Brigo: the only safe way really |
| 00:37.53 | mwargh | more-or-less safe |
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| 00:38.08 | sadtaco | So next thing is what happens if I loose my key file for no password auth? Like what if my PC crashes? And if I have it on another pc too, and that's also lost in a horrible event? |
| 00:38.25 | Brigo | i think this is no secure :) |
| 00:38.44 | mwargh | sadtaco: after changing ssh config do not close the session, restart sshd and try to connect from another terminal before closing the first one |
| 00:38.58 | mwargh | sadtaco: also yes you need to keep your key files some place safe |
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| 00:39.41 | mwargh | Brigo: there is no secure yes :) |
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| 00:40.01 | bill | hello |
| 00:40.16 | Guest92668 | anyone there? |
| 00:40.23 | Brigo | mwargh, i prefer port knocking, of course. :) |
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| 00:40.47 | Guest92668 | i need help with sound |
| 00:40.59 | Guest92668 | i installed the codecs, but my mp3 cannot play |
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| 00:41.38 | Guest92668 | i tried everything, but nothing seems to work. |
| 00:42.18 | mwargh | Brigo: i agree it's most safe option, but i'd argue that key based auth over ssh is ok in most cases |
| 00:42.30 | Guest92668 | no help... |
| 00:42.51 | Brigo | mwargh, yes, i use it, in my container, it is comfortable :) |
| 00:43.22 | teraflops | Guest92668: what codecs did you install (package name/s) and what player are you using? |
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| 00:43.38 | Brigo | but i have pasword enable, just in case :) |
| 00:44.14 | Guest92668 | mplayer libavcodec-extra-54 |
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| 00:44.40 | Guest92668 | my mp3 plays, but there is no sound |
| 00:44.45 | mwargh | Brigo: basically if they get into my machine they'll grab my keys and keypresses and scripts anyway, and if the won't only possibility of logging into a server via ssh using key-based auth is if ssh had some awfull bug. well, that is definitely possible |
| 00:45.18 | Brigo | mwargh, yes, i see your point. |
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| 00:46.49 | Guest92668 | terflops: any idea? |
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| 00:48.35 | Guest92668 | anyone? |
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| 00:49.18 | teraflops | Guest92668: nop because I didnt notice I have to install that package to get mp3 plsyed on mplayer |
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| 00:50.03 | Guest92668 | much help, much success, much thankfulness, much bye! |
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| 01:13.49 | seeker61 | looking for a channel for testdata application |
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| 01:20.34 | rebauld | tries to wrap his head around the fact that even #debian is quiet? |
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| 01:21.00 | JohnnyL | have any of you svn'ed the latest e17? |
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| 01:22.24 | rebauld | notes except for the latest JohnnyL survey |
| 01:23.52 | nikio_ | what does ~/.gdbinit mean? |
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| 01:24.18 | nikio_ | what do the symbold mean there |
| 01:25.17 | rebauld | checks all the info that google returns on .gdbinit |
| 01:26.07 | rebauld | how many channels you throwing that question into - my 8ft x 6ft monitor just lit up |
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| 01:26.50 | nikio_ | rebauld, where can i find that file |
| 01:27.09 | nikio_ | need to but a define in it |
| 01:27.19 | nikio_ | to make assembly debugging easier |
| 01:27.27 | rebauld | your own question tells you |
| 01:27.54 | nikio_ | lol |
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| 01:28.48 | nikio_ | come on dudeson |
| 01:29.00 | nikio_ | im neew to this |
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| 01:31.46 | rebauld | check ttmrichter's answer in the other channel |
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| 01:33.53 | rebauld | wait you are new to this and already needed gdb ... |
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| 01:38.02 | lmintdebian | Could one of you hackers help find a really old user manual somewhere on the internet? Southwestern Bell FA-1500 |
| 01:39.30 | Gargantua | nikio_: in nix based systems ~ stands for your home directory |
| 01:39.40 | nikio_ | ok i see |
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| 02:08.42 | suik | how do I switch from gnome to xfce4? I installed the packages and goodies via terminal already. now how do I run it? I tried exec ck-launch-session startxfce4 but it just says that I have too many privileges or something and shuts down terminal |
| 02:10.07 | rebauld_ | suik fluxbox is the best |
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| 02:11.02 | suik | looks to minimalistic. this is for a 60 year old person who never used linux |
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| 02:11.43 | rebauld_ | so why you torturing the poor guy leave it at gnome |
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| 02:13.01 | jager | kde for grandparents |
| 02:13.46 | cra1g321 | why are you launching it from a terminal ? |
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| 02:13.49 | jager | maybe your grandparents are cooler than mine tho hehe |
| 02:14.10 | cra1g321 | just select it from GDM or lightDM |
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| 02:22.02 | shay_shay | Can anyone explain the new tasksel screen? |
| 02:22.15 | shay_shay | For Jessie: https://www.dropbox.com/s/jscinnd6ogln18i/IMG_20141004_191940.jpg?dl=0 |
| 02:22.23 | shay_shay | I want to select KDE |
| 02:22.40 | shay_shay | Do I select *Debian desktop enviroment " too? |
| 02:23.17 | shay_shay | Its different for jessie |
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| 02:23.57 | shay_shay | Before the desktop was selected in the isolinux menu |
| 02:24.05 | shay_shay | Now its in tasksel |
| 02:24.37 | shay_shay | Its unclear what the result of installing Debian desktop environment will be |
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| 02:25.25 | ruukasu | whenever I restart ibus, it breaks almost everything and I have to switch to a tty to restart xorg. anyone else have this happen and know how to fix? |
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| 02:27.59 | shay_shay | No manual on tasksel on the netinstaller |
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| 03:25.09 | Blue11 | I am having problems playing a bluray movie in wheezy -- http://picpaste.com/bluray-QeOS9eVR.png |
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| 03:31.28 | JohnnyL | how many backdoors does debian have? |
| 03:32.25 | Penix__ | JohnnyL: 42 |
| 03:33.02 | JohnnyL | Penix__: a cavemen and a scrabble board spelling out 'what you get when you multiply 6 x 7'. |
| 03:33.11 | JohnnyL | (if you read the 4 book TRIlogy) |
| 03:34.10 | Penix__ | I don't think you know what "trilogy" means |
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| 03:35.01 | JohnnyL | Penix__: no fool. that is what Douglas Adams calls it. |
| 03:35.41 | JohnnyL | pretty good mr t impression if I do say so my damned self. |
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| 03:39.10 | JohnnyL | Mr-T: In a cup, fool! |
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| 03:43.01 | Blue11 | I am having problems playing a bluray movie -- http://picpaste.com/bluray-QeOS9eVR.png |
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| 03:49.17 | Cloudka82 | Anyone know where I could find my php.ini file? |
| 03:49.26 | Cloudka82 | Running php5 on debian |
| 03:49.27 | Cloudka82 | 7 |
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| 03:50.16 | Cloudka82 | nvm. |
| 03:50.17 | Cloudka82 | Thanks |
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| 04:47.03 | sldkjfsadfasdf | Hi, I'm busy setting up a template/syntax file on Archlinux and have noticed that they are not auto-loaded upon vim startup. Does Debian do something specific with Vim's packaging? I've never had to manually specify path files before, just put them in the system's $VIM |
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| 05:25.25 | SPepper | anyone ever run ltp? |
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| 06:14.48 | shingouz | !anyone |
| 06:14.48 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
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| 07:18.34 | balintant | Hi guys, can you tell me how can I install the debian without a GUI? (I need it for a Vagrant server, but I always get some gnome into that) |
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| 07:45.45 | c0mrade_ | I've setup an online server at home that has some linux and windows virtual machines all online. |
| 07:45.45 | c0mrade_ | I am using a stand ISP connection and a DDNS host and different ssh ports for each vm. |
| 07:46.08 | c0mrade_ | One of the VMs has an UnrealIRCd IRC Server the other will have gitLab and the main server is windows 2012 with IIS. |
| 07:46.28 | c0mrade_ | I would like to invite some people that like technical stuff and would want to do some projects together for fun, collaboration and eductional purposes on my servers :D |
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| 07:50.40 | Artemis3 | balintant, you should use expert install and near the end you pick tasks make sure desktop is not chosen |
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| 07:58.13 | AR45 | Anyone have the command for taking screenshot of the terminal? |
| 07:58.25 | AR45 | Sorry I mean pastebin |
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| 08:02.35 | OldDog | Hello |
| 08:02.55 | c0mrade_ | Hey OldDog. |
| 08:03.04 | c0mrade_ | OldDog: Are you interested? |
| 08:03.18 | Cloudka82 | Quick question, I recently installed a program on my vps now requiring curl. However, I didn't find this out until after my php installation. Would i need to remove php completely, install curl-php5 first, then install php over again? Or could I just simply install curl-php5? Oh yeah, im running Debian 7 server. <3 |
| 08:03.44 | OldDog | Does someone can tell me the way to change iceweasel default language? I installed debian in english but google is always displayed in french. Firefox, on another o/s, displays google in dutch :s |
| 08:03.52 | OldDog | I just want to have it in english |
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| 08:04.20 | c0mrade_ | Cloudka82: You can't do apt-get install curl-php5? |
| 08:04.24 | tugrik | Cloudka82: you should be able to just install curl-php5 |
| 08:04.32 | tugrik | as per c0mrade_ 's command |
| 08:04.40 | Cloudka82 | Hmm, okay i was just told i would have to recompile php |
| 08:05.02 | tugrik | did you install php using apt-get? |
| 08:05.08 | Cloudka82 | just wanted to check with you guys first ;) |
| 08:05.16 | Cloudka82 | tugrik: yea i did |
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| 08:05.37 | tugrik | cool, then just install it; Debian is relatively hard to break if you use apt-get for everything |
| 08:05.40 | tugrik | IME anyway |
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| 08:06.03 | Cloudka82 | Woot! Okay I'll give it a shot now. |
| 08:06.15 | hmw_ | OldDog: preferences/content/language? |
| 08:06.29 | tugrik | OldDog: are you accessing the Internet in a particularly interesting way? i.e. over 3G or similar? |
| 08:07.12 | Disconsented | Whats the driver support for AMD cards like these days? |
| 08:07.31 | Cloudka82 | Yayyyy it worked :) |
| 08:07.55 | OldDog | hmw_, tugrik : It works :p Thanks. I don't know why, French was before english |
| 08:08.11 | OldDog | By the way, I already checked this on Win7 ... only english is present |
| 08:08.28 | OldDog | Well ... as debian is my main o/s it doesn't matter so much |
| 08:08.31 | OldDog | thanks guys! |
| 08:08.43 | tugrik | the languages you've got installed on the system don't determine the language webpages are displayed in |
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| 08:08.50 | c0mrade_ | Anyone interested? |
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| 08:08.52 | c0mrade_ | :P |
| 08:08.53 | hmw_ | That's indeed an interesting question, one that I can't answer, OldDog ;). |
| 08:09.03 | tugrik | i.e. if I access google through a french proxy server, i'll get www.google.fr... in french |
| 08:09.21 | OldDog | tugrik : I'm connected via adsl |
| 08:09.44 | OldDog | I don't know the language of the proxy |
| 08:09.53 | OldDog | I'm in a 3 langual country |
| 08:09.58 | tugrik | hmmm OldDog , so you're coming from a known IP that should be identified as a particula.... |
| 08:09.59 | tugrik | ah |
| 08:10.12 | tugrik | that *might* be the reason you're getting different languages |
| 08:10.35 | OldDog | I already think to that possibility ... I just have the opportunity to choose |
| 08:10.36 | tugrik | ah, the Netherlands? |
| 08:10.46 | OldDog | I really hates when "someone" choose for me |
| 08:10.48 | OldDog | Belgium |
| 08:10.55 | OldDog | Netherlands is monolingual |
| 08:10.57 | tugrik | ah, nice :) |
| 08:13.01 | shingouz | OldDog: www.google.com/ncr gives you the No Country Redirect... add the /ncr to any google link and you get the international version |
| 08:13.04 | tugrik | I suspect that's why if it's only affecting Google - and also language preferences in the browser might make a different |
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| 08:13.20 | tugrik | shingouz: useful :) |
| 08:13.27 | shingouz | very |
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| 08:13.50 | OldDog | shingouz, You're right but it doesn't work with the "google search" field (up, right) |
| 08:14.45 | dutchfish | OldDog, google uses GEOip, you can however change that |
| 08:14.48 | shingouz | OldDog: i beg to differ. works here with no special voodoo. you might have to change the search preferences, though |
| 08:15.01 | qqz | How can I see which packages are included in the 7.5.0 release of wheezy? I need qemu-1.1.2+dfsg-6a+deb7u4 due to a security update. |
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| 08:15.32 | shingouz | ,v qemu |
| 08:15.34 | judd | Package: qemu on i386 -- squeeze: 0.12.5+dfsg-3squeeze4; squeeze-security: 0.12.5+dfsg-3squeeze4; squeeze-backports: 1.1.2+dfsg-2~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1.1.2+dfsg-6a+deb7u3; wheezy-security: 1.1.2+dfsg-6a+deb7u4; wheezy-backports: 2.1+dfsg-5~bpo70+1; jessie: 2.1+dfsg-5; sid: 2.1+dfsg-5 |
| 08:15.34 | qqz | or will it just be available online via: deb http://security.debian.org/debian-security wheezy/updates main |
| 08:16.48 | qqz | ok thx; so I will have to download the packages individually |
| 08:17.09 | dutchfish | OldDog, but while language can be set, locations is geoip, google for changing location inside your browser, but it needs cookies to do so, if you want absolute privacy i wont recommend that |
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| 08:18.07 | qqz | OldDog: Why not use a free vpn into the respective country like f.i. via vpngate? |
| 08:18.12 | shingouz | qqz: if you are running wheezy, just add the security in your sources.list and do the update/upgrade |
| 08:18.41 | dutchfish | qqz, because the exit node, still is judged on geoip |
| 08:19.23 | OldDog | dutchfish : I know about geoip and languages preferences. I simply want to be the master in my castle : understand that I want to use any website in the language of my own choice. I don't know why but it seems to become a habit on the internet to force users' language. I don't like it so much ... |
| 08:19.36 | OldDog | qqz : because it's not "simple" ;) |
| 08:19.40 | OldDog | but yes, I could |
| 08:19.48 | dutchfish | OldDog, i hear you |
| 08:19.54 | tugrik | also a free vpn will slow down your traffic... admittedly probably not a great deal... plus I would trust free vpn providers as far as I can throw them ;) |
| 08:20.24 | OldDog | tugrik : right! :) |
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| 08:21.04 | qqz | shingouz: I will have to use sth. like apt-offline since the computer is not connected to the net; |
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| 08:21.27 | qqz | shingouz: Is there currently any way to check package signatures on the offline computer? |
| 08:21.29 | shingouz | OldDog: in firefox: go to about:config and search for geo.enabled; set that for false and you should be done |
| 08:22.02 | shingouz | qqz: i have no idea |
| 08:22.16 | OldDog | shingouz : So simple? Great! Just perfect if it works! |
| 08:22.20 | OldDog | Thank a lot! |
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| 08:22.51 | shingouz | OldDog: works here, not sure if there are some other thingies set on the frigging box |
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| 08:23.56 | dutchfish | OldDog, that setting is however stored in a cookie, just fyi |
| 08:25.52 | qqz | OldDog: If you really want a vpn you can use http://www.elstel.org/software/vpngate-extract; |
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| 08:26.13 | qqz | OldDog: just enter vpngate-extract --help (only three more lines to enter) |
| 08:26.42 | qqz | one wget; one extract; one openvon xy.ovpn |
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| 08:30.23 | OldDog | dutchfish, : in a cookie? the geo.enable thing? |
| 08:30.27 | OldDog | weird |
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| 08:30.44 | OldDog | i only accept cookies for the session, they are erased then |
| 08:30.46 | visiteur_1 | test |
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| 08:32.42 | OldDog | visiteur_1 : pong |
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| 08:33.03 | OldDog | well, it's time to go back to real life |
| 08:33.08 | OldDog | thanks for your help guys |
| 08:33.23 | OldDog | 73 dutchfish |
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| 08:39.23 | qqz | The plus of a vpn + disabling cookies + language settings is that you really see everything like in the respective country; otherwise there is no guarantee especially not for google which shows different results to every user. |
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| 08:58.34 | dutchfish | OldDog, 73 |
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| 09:07.04 | level7 | morning all |
| 09:07.50 | level7 | why do I get "enter user name/password" from something called "calendar" ? not sure if it's a debian feature or icedove..... any hint? |
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| 09:11.40 | SPepper | are you trying to change the time? |
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| 09:12.41 | heurist | level7: what are you doing when you get this password request? |
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| 09:13.02 | level7 | I close the window, but after a while it comes back asking.... |
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| 09:19.38 | heurist | level7: if you can not tell us what you are doing we can not really guess what is asking. but next time it comes up, open a terminal and run xprop then click on the password prompt window to get an idea of that program it is. |
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| 09:28.32 | l3dx | does anyone know if there's a workaround to this GLib issue? https://mail.gnome.org/archives/commits-list/2014-August/msg08240.html |
| 09:29.12 | l3dx | I get the error "Attempt to unlock mutex that was not locked. Aborted" from several apps |
| 09:32.37 | boudiccas | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:53.23 | Dustin | hello |
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| 09:55.03 | Voidzone | hi |
| 09:55.18 | Dustin | i have a question |
| 09:55.28 | heurist | !ask |
| 09:55.28 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 09:56.32 | Dustin | im using kali, and would like to know what are the differences between other debian based os like mint and ubuntu |
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| 09:57.27 | SynrGy | Dustin: i should think looking at each of their websites would be the best way to answer that. it's off-topic for here. |
| 09:57.47 | Dustin | allright, thanks |
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| 10:08.41 | mirda | hello, i have some weird problem with dnsmasq, i have server with wheezy 32 bit, my pc with wheezy 64 bit, I set dnsmasq as dns cache on a server, it worked several month but some day after installation of apt-cacher it broke and dnsmasq doesn't provide dns replies |
| 10:09.24 | mirda | i tried to remove apt-cacher but dns translation doesn't work still |
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| 10:10.39 | mirda | i looked at it via wireshark on my pc, so pc sends dns query, server replies but pc reply with ICMP packet destination unreachable, port unreachable |
| 10:11.30 | mirda | dns translations don't work for all my pc's in my home LAN, including Nokia N900 via wifi |
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| 10:12.53 | mirda | gandalf - server, jerry - my pc |
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| 10:12.55 | mirda | mira@gandalf:~$ sudo nmap -sU -p 53 jerry | grep 53 |
| 10:12.56 | mirda | 53/udp closed domain |
| 10:12.58 | mirda | mira@gandalf:~$ |
| 10:13.42 | mirda | mira@jerry:~$ ~> sudo nmap -sU -p 53 gandalf | grep 53 |
| 10:13.43 | mirda | 53/udp open|filtered domain |
| 10:13.45 | mirda | mira@jerry:~$ ~> |
| 10:15.04 | wols | mirda: check via netstat if the port is open, check your netfilter settings |
| 10:15.06 | boudiccas | what is the default logon greeter please? |
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| 10:16.00 | wols | there is not really a default. every DE has its own DM |
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| 10:17.13 | mirda | mira@jerry:~$ ~> sudo netstat -plnt | grep 53 |
| 10:17.15 | mirda | tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:53447 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 4961/ksmserver [kin |
| 10:17.16 | mirda | mira@jerry:~$ ~> sudo netstat -plnu | grep 53 |
| 10:17.18 | mirda | udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:53401 0.0.0.0:* 2334/rpc.statd |
| 10:17.19 | mirda | udp 0 0 0.0.0.0:5353 0.0.0.0:* 4087/avahi-daemon: |
| 10:17.21 | mirda | udp6 0 0 :::5353 :::* 4087/avahi-daemon: |
| 10:17.22 | mirda | mira@jerry:~$ ~> |
| 10:17.43 | wols | !paste |
| 10:17.44 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 10:17.45 | Voidzone | huh? |
| 10:18.02 | Voidzone | lol |
| 10:18.03 | wols | mirda: your dnsmasq is not running btw |
| 10:18.13 | Voidzone | funny, not getting killed |
| 10:18.20 | acemi | mirda: this your pc or your server? |
| 10:18.24 | mirda | my pc |
| 10:18.31 | wols | *sigh* |
| 10:18.32 | mirda | sorry about flooding |
| 10:18.35 | wols | yes it's sunday, alright |
| 10:18.47 | mirda | dnsmasq is running on a server |
| 10:19.04 | wols | then obviously you need to check on the server, not your client PC |
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| 10:20.01 | mirda | http://paste.debian.net/124550/ |
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| 10:21.15 | mirda | but port 53 doesn't need to be open on a pc to listen dns replies? |
| 10:21.25 | acemi | mirda: does your pc can ping the server (192.168.1.12) |
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| 10:21.58 | mirda | yes it can ping this server |
| 10:23.25 | acemi | mirda: does this work in your pc: dig @192.168.1.12 www.google.com |
| 10:23.28 | mirda | i have another dnsmasq running on my router (ubiquiti wispstation), when i set it's ip address to /etc/resolv.conf, dns translating via router works |
| 10:24.35 | mirda | http://paste.debian.net/124551/ |
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| 10:26.55 | acemi | mirda: maybe your server can't send dns query to Internet. bad gateway or some firewall rules... |
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| 10:27.50 | mirda | http://imgur.com/vqIFCA2 |
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| 10:28.49 | mirda | i think it can send query to internet because it repies it, see screenshot |
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| 10:30.40 | mi4 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:31.42 | heurist | mirda: does dig @locahost google,com work when run on the server? |
| 10:31.42 | mirda | when i restart dnsmasq using /etc/init.d/dnsmasq restart, it works as expected but after some time it doesn't work |
| 10:32.23 | heurist | mirda: check the logs around the time it stops working. |
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| 10:33.36 | mirda | http://paste.debian.net/124552/ |
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| 10:33.54 | mirda | ^^ reply to dig @localhost.. |
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| 10:34.33 | heurist | mirda: yes, but that is after the restart, so it presumably works everywhere now. no? |
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| 10:35.35 | mirda | it works for all my pc's after restart but i think it brokes after a few queries or seconds |
| 10:35.46 | acemi | mirda: meybe there is a dublicated IP in your network |
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| 10:36.05 | SynrG | that's what i was thinking |
| 10:36.22 | heurist | mirda: when it breaks test with all the commands we have given. and check the logs. |
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| 10:37.19 | mirda | http://paste.debian.net/124553/ |
| 10:37.23 | mirda | log^^ |
| 10:37.26 | heurist | mirda: record the output of arp -a and check that again when it breaks. see if 192.168.1.12 still has the same mac address |
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| 10:38.17 | SynrG | ip neigh |
| 10:38.19 | SynrG | ;) |
| 10:39.07 | heurist | mirda: is that the logs while it is working? do not filter for dnsmasq only, look at everything around the time of the break, look in all the logs too. |
| 10:39.22 | heurist | SynrG: noob! I am oldschool. (: |
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| 10:40.37 | SynrG | smirks at the though of being called "noob" :) |
| 10:41.04 | SynrG | at 48 (just turned on thurs) should i be flattered? |
| 10:41.09 | heurist | SynrG: thought you might like it for a change. (: new commands and all. |
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| 10:46.32 | no_gravity | Hello! I see my server dropping like 1 in 100 http connections. But "ping -c 1000 -i 0.1" results in 0% packet loss. Can I assume that the http request then also go through to the server? |
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| 10:48.48 | berzerka | on my wheezy server, i get ata UDMA failures of the following kind upon boot: https://bpaste.net/show/8ab9f6023838 |
| 10:49.04 | berzerka | this is an ide disk, and it seems to operate normally apart from those error messages in dmesg. |
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| 10:50.01 | Brigo | berzerka, did you have backups? |
| 10:50.12 | berzerka | i read that it could be an flaky connection, but when i boot grml instead, i see no errors of such kind. i tried booting with the latest kernel from backports, but the error persists. |
| 10:50.14 | heurist | berzerka: back it up. those errors say your second disk is dying. then check the cables, |
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| 10:50.47 | Brigo | berzerka, and check the disk with smartmontools |
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| 10:51.30 | berzerka | Brigo: did that, everything seems fine except the UDMA read error count.. and people write that those are most certainly related to a flaky connection. i wonder why i don't see the errors in grml, however. |
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| 10:51.54 | heurist | berzerka: but remember that if smart says your disk is ok, it means nothing. but if smart says your disk is dying you are in trouble. |
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| 10:52.21 | heurist | berzerka: maybe grml in not trying to access that disk? |
| 10:52.26 | Brigo | berzerka, brml? |
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| 10:52.35 | Brigo | grml, i mean |
| 10:52.47 | berzerka | heurist: it does. i just mounted and unmounted it and see no errors of any kind. |
| 10:53.15 | berzerka | Brigo: grml.org, it's a text-oriented system maintainer/rescue live system. |
| 10:53.27 | heurist | berzerka: maybe grml in not trying to access the faulty sectors then? try a badblocks test after you backup. |
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| 10:54.36 | berzerka | heurist: did a badblocks test the other day, there certainly *were* badblocks on there (since i had fs errors which would not vanish without a e2fsck -c..) |
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| 10:54.36 | jelly-home | berzerka: ata bus errors might be cabling if smartctl or hdsentinel say the disk has not gained any reallocated or pending sectors |
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| 10:55.09 | berzerka | jelly-home: reallocated_sector_ct 0 |
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| 10:55.36 | berzerka | it's really strange, the disk seems fine after all. |
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| 10:55.57 | berzerka | and if it's the cabling, i should see the errors in the live system as well, i suppose... |
| 10:56.21 | jelly-home | berzerka: do you _use_ the disk booting into grml? |
| 10:56.38 | mirda | i have to go afk for some time, sorry |
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| 10:56.50 | berzerka | jelly-home: as i said, just mounted lsd umounted and no errors |
| 10:56.55 | heurist | berzerka: you will only see those error when the system tries to access the faulty sectors. try a badblocks with grml. |
| 10:56.57 | jelly-home | that's not using |
| 10:57.27 | berzerka | ok will do now. |
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| 10:57.53 | heurist | berzerka: do you only see these errors during boot, or at other times as well? |
| 10:58.20 | berzerka | heurist: only once, during boot. |
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| 10:58.41 | berzerka | heurist: the device then seems to settle on UDMA/33 and everything is fine from that point onwards. |
| 10:59.17 | heurist | berzerka: strange. there *may* (and I stress may) be some weird voltage thing before you load the drivers. check the cables though. |
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| 11:00.49 | berzerka | heurist: it's an ide cable with some "to-2.5"-ide-adapter" just replugged both firmly, but i can't say the cable is fine. would need to get another one, which i will do. |
| 11:00.58 | zoie | i'm getting ALSA lib pcm_dmix.c:1018:(snd_pcm_dmix_open) unable to open slave Playback open error: -2,No such file or directory when trying to start speaker-test |
| 11:01.02 | heurist | berzerka: unless it is very old, UDMA/33 is probably a sign is a problem. but that may explain the error, maybe it can not use faster UDMA choices and once it works that out it is ok. ? |
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| 11:01.43 | TaiiwoSad | I'm having dependency issues. I seems that my 32 bit repos are asking for versions of 64 bit software that I don't have in my repos |
| 11:02.02 | TaiiwoSad | Like the 32 bit repos are more up to date than the old ones |
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| 11:02.22 | TaiiwoSad | I'm trying to install libgtk2.0-0:i386 |
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| 11:03.06 | berzerka | heurist: well the drive reports to support udma/100 as it seems. it probes and gets read errors, then probes 66, then 33 and settles with that. it would really make sense that the cabling is just flaky. |
| 11:03.25 | berzerka | heurist: my problem is that on grml, it settles with udma/100 and i don't see any errors. |
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| 11:03.43 | berzerka | heurist: thought it might be kernel related, but the latest 3.16 from backports still has the error. |
| 11:03.49 | berzerka | doing badblocks in grml now. |
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| 11:03.55 | dustin | #kali-linux |
| 11:04.07 | heurist | dustin: no |
| 11:04.15 | TaiiwoSad | Here's the output of sudo apt-get install libgtk2.0-0:i386 http://pastie.org/9621959 |
| 11:04.22 | dustin | sorry my bsd |
| 11:04.29 | tremon | berzerka: it is an 40-strand cable or 80-strand? everything over udma/33 requires an 80-strand cable (with every other strand tied to ground, to minimize interference) |
| 11:04.33 | dustin | my bad* |
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| 11:04.58 | heurist | dustin: and now you bring BSD in to it as well!? |
| 11:05.39 | berzerka | tremon: it's a 40-strand cable! |
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| 11:05.52 | dustin | really my typo mistake and, that /j thing didnt comeout while i was typing |
| 11:06.10 | heurist | dustin: no worries. I was just joking with you. |
| 11:06.13 | wols | !tell TaiiwoSad about bat |
| 11:06.37 | dustin | thanks lol |
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| 11:06.45 | berzerka | tremon: so you mean that's just normal behavior? question is why does grml stick with UDMA/100? |
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| 11:07.58 | heurist | berzerka: grml may be suppressing those errors? |
| 11:08.19 | TaiiwoSad | sudo apt-cache policy libgtk2.0-0:i386 | nopaste: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8499231/ |
| 11:08.22 | tremon | berzerka: I'm not sure it's normal behaviour, but it's somewhat expected. I haven't worked with udma in a long time though. Usually, drives should auto-detect the type of cable and not even train on udma/100 on a 40-strand cable |
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| 11:08.56 | berzerka | tremon: might have to do with that "to-2.5"-ide" adapter in between... |
| 11:08.58 | tremon | berzerka: it may be the 2.5" adapter (or the fact that it's a laptop drive) is messing up the autodetection |
| 11:09.04 | tremon | yes, that |
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| 11:09.54 | berzerka | i see... so if i want to get rid of the errors, i could try to set the UDMA mode in bios, maybe, so kernel won't even try 100. |
| 11:10.05 | tremon | berzerka: but I stil would expect grml to fail in the same way, but probably not when just mounting. You'll probably need multi-dma transfers or a full transmit queue for the drive to hit speedbumps |
| 11:10.27 | berzerka | tremon, heurist thanks a lot for the pointers, i will keep investigating! |
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| 11:13.05 | berzerka | jelly-home, Brigo you as well, of course. |
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| 11:13.53 | berzerka | just reading up on udma of course it won't work with 100 over 40-pin cables. just setting bios ata controller to support only up to ATA-4, hope that will resolve the errors. |
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| 11:15.16 | berzerka | up to UDMA-2, that is, properly reading... |
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| 11:16.49 | berzerka | ah there's also a 'detect 80-pin cable' option which i changed from 'host' to 'device and host' now, let's see. |
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| 11:20.02 | dracc_ | I get a weird bug with League of Legends in wine 1.7.28 with x3d_platform=1 enabled. I have ran "winetricks vcrun2008 corefonts" in a fresh wineprefix from where I start LoL. Result: http://i.imgur.com/Jk4CLU0.png . What did I do wrong? :( |
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| 11:21.39 | SynrG | dracc_: i'm thinking "didn't check with #winehq"? :) |
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| 11:21.59 | dracc_ | SynrG, Asked there too, no answer yet. :( |
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| 11:22.28 | jelly-home | when did 1.7.28 get packaged |
| 11:22.35 | jelly-home | ,v wine-development |
| 11:22.36 | judd | Package: wine-development on i386 -- jessie: 1.7.27-1; sid: 1.7.27-1 |
| 11:23.23 | dracc_ | jelly-home, Sorry, compiled it myself... :$ |
| 11:23.39 | SynrG | dracc_: so, on irc when you don't get an answer, lurk and wait for one, or use an alternate support channel related to the issue. don't go looking on unrelated channels for help |
| 11:23.57 | dracc_ | SynrG, Ok, sorry. :) |
| 11:24.01 | SynrG | (e.g. mailing list, support forum, etc.) |
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| 11:25.50 | rgr | or here. |
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| 11:28.58 | SynrG | ? |
| 11:29.37 | SynrG | i mean, mailing lists & support forums *are* appropriate for wine issues. but unless it's help with the debian package, we can't help here. |
| 11:30.08 | SynrG | (and even if you're on the debian package, unless it's a debian-specific issue, it's unlikely we can help) |
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| 11:33.25 | zoie | i'm using the wheezie backports; i tried to remove pulseaudio, and then reinstall it to solve my sound problem, but now i'm getting this: http://paste.debian.net/124564/ |
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| 11:36.21 | SynrG | zoie: please show the output of these commands: "apt-cache policy", "apt-cache policy pulseaudio libpulse0" |
| 11:37.25 | zoie | SynrG: http://paste.debian.net/124565/ http://paste.debian.net/124566/ |
| 11:38.29 | rgr | nonsense. who is "we". There might well be people familiar with the Wine isues here. Otherwise where do you draw the line. It's a package under Debian. And I've seen plenty of help for it here. |
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| 11:39.09 | SynrG | ? rant and leave? |
| 11:39.39 | SynrG | zoie: anyway, the problem is libpulse0 is installed from backports |
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| 11:40.26 | SynrG | zoie: if you install pulseaudio, you need to do one of two things: either use the non-backports one from stable, or else remove the libpulse0 from backports and try again |
| 11:40.39 | SynrG | (though the latter may not be possible due to other backports packages depending on it) |
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| 11:42.46 | SynrG | zoie: bleah, i mean either use the *backports* pulseaudio or the *non-backports* libpulse0 |
| 11:43.00 | SynrG | trying to mix the two is causing the conflict |
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| 11:43.38 | zoie | SynrG: thanks i used the first option it worked |
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| 11:46.21 | tremon | can anyone here help me with a nfs4 issue? I'm trying to solve a callback error, but I don't know how it's supposed to work. http://paste.debian.net/124567/ |
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| 11:47.26 | tremon | it looks like gssd is doing a dns lookup of the client principal, which is so many kinds of wrong I'm really doubting my reading comprehension |
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| 11:56.44 | leibowitz | hello |
| 11:57.13 | leibowitz | is there possibility to have access from outside to server located between 2 NATs? |
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| 11:57.56 | jelly-home | between or behind? |
| 11:58.10 | leibowitz | behind |
| 11:58.19 | leibowitz | i want to have access from world |
| 11:58.31 | leibowitz | so VPN + domain ? |
| 11:58.36 | jelly-home | set up a vpn from that server to an endpoint you control, yes |
| 11:59.01 | leibowitz | but endpoint is not configurable |
| 11:59.40 | jelly-home | get a cheap vps and use that as your eg. openvpn server |
| 11:59.41 | leibowitz | its 4G dongle with hilink |
| 12:00.19 | leibowitz | but i will have to have VPN on all clients? |
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| 12:00.25 | jelly-home | yep |
| 12:00.43 | leibowitz | bad solution :< |
| 12:00.50 | jelly-home | works for me |
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| 12:01.07 | leibowitz | lets say i want to use it as web server too |
| 12:01.25 | jackbrown | ca n anyone help me ? I got this "error Dependency is not satisfiable:libpurple0 (>=1:2.8.0):" |
| 12:01.31 | jelly-home | leibowitz: a public web server? You can't, not directly. |
| 12:01.40 | leibowitz | I know |
| 12:01.49 | leibowitz | i have heard about ipv6 tunnel |
| 12:02.32 | leibowitz | so is there possibility to give my server ipv6 address and then buy domain and point it to my server? |
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| 12:03.13 | jelly-home | jackbrown: put the command line you ran and its complete output, also output of "apt-cache policy libpurple0; apt-cache policy" into a pastebin http://paste.debian.net |
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| 12:03.55 | jackbrown | jelly: ok |
| 12:03.55 | jelly-home | leibowitz: that's just a different way to tunnel things. It's easier to use a vps with a public address. |
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| 12:04.41 | leibowitz | I dont want to buy VPS |
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| 12:04.51 | leibowitz | i want to use my old laptop as server |
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| 12:06.51 | jelly-home | leibowitz: then you'll have to punch holes in those NATs and use a dyndns solution, which, in my opinion, is much more fragile and you're going to waste more resources setting it up and maintaining than you'd waste paying $3 monthly for a vps |
| 12:07.00 | jackbrown | jelly-home: thanks http://pastebin.com/MEXrMKDY |
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| 12:07.31 | jelly-home | jackbrown: this doesn't seem to be a Debian system. |
| 12:07.34 | jelly-home | !mint |
| 12:07.34 | dpkg | Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available, based on <testing>. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>. |
| 12:07.53 | jelly-home | jackbrown: the right place for Mint and LMDE support is there ^^ |
| 12:08.21 | jackbrown | jelly-home: sorry but nobody helped me so I tought that since it's debian based somoene could help here |
| 12:08.31 | dvs | !based on debian |
| 12:08.31 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
| 12:08.52 | jelly-home | jackbrown: it's weekend, be patient |
| 12:09.10 | jackbrown | jelly-home: you are right thanks for your attention anyway |
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| 12:10.34 | jelly-home | jackbrown: I'm sorry. We don't know what changes a debian-based distro has done compared to Debian, and it is _very_ common that exactly those changes introduce bugs that otherwise do not happen in Debian. |
| 12:10.53 | jackbrown | jelly-home: ok thanks for your time anyway :) |
| 12:11.01 | jelly-home | good luck |
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| 12:26.24 | avar | Can someone tell me how I can in Jessie running systemd disable a system service completely (avahi-daemon). None of the stuff I tried so far works, listed in https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=764084#10 |
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| 12:28.37 | heurist | avar: questions about jessie are better addressed to #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
| 12:29.43 | avar | Thanks, willdo. |
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| 12:44.26 | XiaoMing94 | is Shellshock patch coming to stable? |
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| 12:45.39 | acemi | XiaoMing94: yes |
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| 12:46.18 | Gforce | Hi,when I try to run teeworld,it can't run.I get this:[54313d23][binds]: bound mousewheeldown (332) = +nextweapon |
| 12:46.18 | Gforce | [54313d23][console]: failed to open 'autoexec.cfg' |
| 12:46.18 | Gforce | [54313d23][client]: starting... |
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| 12:46.18 | Gforce | [54313d23][gfx]: out of ideas. failed to init graphics |
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| 12:54.27 | dvs | !dpkg dsa2896 |
| 12:54.27 | dpkg | Versions of openssl prior to 1.0.1e-2+deb7u5 (wheezy) and 1.0.1g-1 (sid) are vulnerable to DSA-2896 (see http://deb.li/3BrUE). Check the version of the libssl1.0.0 packages: «aptitude versions '~i?source-package(openssl)'». Remember that the upstream version part (1.0.1e) doesn't change when security bugs are fixed in stable releases; ask me about <security backports>. See also http://heartbleed.com/, http://xkcd.com/1354/ |
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| 12:59.29 | kakestykke | Hi! I just installed Debian with Gnome (by mistake). I've runned apt-get install xfce4 and would like to make this my default desktop environment. How do I do that? |
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| 12:59.55 | dvs | !remove gnome |
| 12:59.55 | dpkg | To remove or purge GNOME 2.x: aptitude remove ~nlibgnome ~nlibbonobo2 ~nliborbit2 ~nlibgnomeui ~nlibgnomevfs2. Use 'purge' instead of 'remove' if that's what you want (ask me about <purge>). |
| 12:59.57 | babilen | kakestykke: Just select it in gdm3 and start it and it will be selected from then on by default. |
| 13:00.20 | babilen | dvs: There was no mentioning of remocing Gnome AFAICT and those wouldn't necessary work for Gnome 3 |
| 13:00.43 | dvs | oh yeah, GNOME 3... |
| 13:00.44 | SynrG | babilen: please check/update that factoid which mentions gnome2 :) |
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| 13:01.54 | kakestykke | babilen: Is it displayed in the user login dialogue or something? I haven't been able to check yet. |
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| 13:05.26 | dvs | !next |
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| 14:00.36 | mambrus | Hi folks. I have just installed Debian 7.6 and have a glx related problem with xserver-xorg-video-nvidia. From a fresh install, I did 'apt-get install nvidia-glx'. After reboot (which was recommended by some package being pulled in as X was currently driven by nouveau) I get X up and running, but it gdm fallbacks a 'gnome3' session to 'gnome default'. During the installation, some other package outputted a message about "nvidia- |
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| 14:02.44 | heurist | mambrus: did you look at http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers ? |
| 14:02.52 | meaneye | So to recap mambrus you installed closed nvidia driver and now gnome goes to fallback session? |
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| 14:03.14 | mambrus | yes |
| 14:03.21 | mambrus | and thanks for the link. |
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| 14:03.57 | Guest93507 | Hi everyone, iâm quiet desesperate after a week of test trying to configure domaine name on my serveur, so here is my problem, my serveur has this ip adress : ns504578.ip-198-245-51.net my domain name is my-univ.com and here are my files conf on bind http://paste.debian.net/124589/ |
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| 14:04.27 | Guest93507 | my provider always says that my dns arenât valid |
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| 14:08.42 | heurist | Guest93507: what do you mean "provider"? what do they say, exactly, about why they are not valid. where are you hosting your DNS? I assume those are three files you pasted? |
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| 14:11.08 | Guest93507 | Heurist, i bought a domain name at 1and1 and ,my server is on OVH, they just say dns not valid. Iâm hosting my dns with debian on my serv. |
| 14:11.19 | Guest93507 | yes three files in my debian conffig |
| 14:11.21 | tharkun | Guest93507: Your zone file is fubared. |
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| 14:13.10 | tharkun | Guest93507: You need to tell your registrar that your DNS are located on your server. |
| 14:13.29 | heurist | Guest93507: if you are running your own DNS server, note that you need at least 2 for most domain registration. if you are using bind as your DNS server use its checks to make sure your zone and config files are ok. named-checkzone and named-checkconf |
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| 14:14.11 | heurist | Guest93507: you can maybe google for "free secondary dns hosting" and offload the secondary server. |
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| 14:17.10 | tharkun | Guest93507: You need first to fix your ns records at your registrar and you hosting provider might offer free dns so you need to look into that. |
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| 14:18.01 | Guest93507 | Yep thatâs what i have tried to do but everyone told me that my free dns is ns.kimsufi.com |
| 14:18.23 | tharkun | coco.ns.cloudflare.com and alex.ns.cloudflare.com are hosting your domain now. |
| 14:18.25 | Guest93507 | (for the secondary dns) and it doesnât work. |
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| 14:19.15 | Guest93507 | tharkum i know itâs because it wonât take ns504578.ip-198-245-51.net and ns.kimsufi.com as new dns it always says they arenât good |
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| 14:19.51 | heurist | Guest93507: have you configured ns.kimsufi.com to act as your secondary? it will not just work. they need to both have working DNS records. |
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| 14:20.05 | tharkun | hmm you never give names to ns records. you give them ip numbers. |
| 14:20.45 | tharkun | and get rid of the cname records you've got on your zone file. |
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| 14:22.53 | Guest93507 | Ok i got rid of the cname but i got ns for dns10.ovh.ca. of my files no ? |
| 14:22.56 | heurist | Guest93507: yes, reduce your dns records down to the simplest that will get you connected, add cnames and all the www,imap stuff later. |
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| 14:24.13 | heurist | Guest93507: who are dns10.ovh.ca? what have they got to do with anything. why are they there? unless it is vital, remove it for now. |
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| 14:25.30 | Guest93507 | sorry i feel really dumb now :) i just donât know at all what are my dns for my serveur everyone told me the first is my serveur name ns504578.ip-198-245-51.net and the second is ns.kimsufi.com |
| 14:25.39 | Guest93507 | but canât make it work |
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| 14:26.33 | tharkun | Guest93507: Do you understand how dns works? |
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| 14:27.32 | tharkun | BTW ns.kimsufi.com doesn't know about your domain. |
| 14:27.38 | Guest93507 | I mean yeah i just donât understand which are the one i have to use, i followed 5 tuto from my provider :( |
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| 14:30.58 | Guest93507 | What i did is to go to http://dnslookup.fr/ and i checked my domaine ns504578.ip-198-245-51.net i looked for my dns and got ns10.ovh.ca. so i imagined that i had to enter for my domaine name ns504578.ip-198-245-51.net and ns10.ovh.ca. as dns1 and 2 for my-univ.com - but i think iâm just saying something very stupid right now |
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| 14:31.16 | tharkun | Guest93507: start a new file with just a single record. Then use named-checkzone and named-checkconf to see that it will work as heurist suggested. And then get your registrar to use it. Or use your providers dns. Which makes more sense than trying to deal yourself with bind. |
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| 14:32.05 | benzrf | hey... |
| 14:32.18 | benzrf | i can't find a live install image for testing |
| 14:32.23 | benzrf | *is* there one? |
| 14:32.41 | heurist | benzrf: questions about jessie are better addressed to #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
| 14:33.27 | benzrf | ok, thank you |
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| 14:34.21 | Guest93507 | http://paste.debian.net/124600/ doing right so far ? Btw thx a lot for your help really appreciate it, iâm really on that stuff for now a week |
| 14:34.27 | heurist | Guest93507: it does not matter what the dns is set to now, you do not "own" ns504578.ip-198-245-51.net your isp does. you need to configure a primary and secondary dns server first. once you get that working you can transfer the domain. (you will never own ns504578.ip-198-245-51.net though). |
| 14:35.00 | Guest93507 | Ok understand that thx. |
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| 14:41.49 | Guest93507 | http://paste.debian.net/124602/ is that better :/ ? |
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| 14:43.20 | heurist | Guest93507: ns1 and ns2 are the same thing, that is not the same as having two servers. |
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| 14:44.49 | Guest93507 | http://paste.debian.net/124604/ better :/ ? or stupid again ? |
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| 14:45.50 | heurist | Guest93507: they are *still* *both* 198.245.51.179 |
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| 14:47.36 | heurist | Guest93507: but you can try registering with both being the same ip, your registrar may allow it. |
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| 14:48.09 | Guest93507 | http://paste.debian.net/124605/ better ? |
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| 14:49.45 | heurist | Guest93507: worse, now you are lying. ns.kimsufi.com is not an ns for your domain. unless you make it so, do not say it is so. |
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| 14:50.39 | Guest93507 | But they tell me to do it here :( http://guide.ovh.com/InstallDNSSecondaire |
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| 14:52.08 | heurist | Guest93507: ask your provider/registrar what dns servers you are supposed to use. and how to configure them. if you have an account with ns.kimsufi.com you must set that up to host your dns before you can claim it is hosting your dns. |
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| 14:53.06 | Guest93507 | Ok iâll thx for your help really |
| 14:53.16 | heurist | Guest93507: no worries. |
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| 14:54.08 | v9999 | So, I'm having a bit of an issue. I'm creating a Truecrypt 7.1 volume on Debian Wheezy and right when the volume is finished encrypting, I get a popup which reads, "Administrator privileges required: Enter your user password or administrator password:". I've tried entering both my user and root password, but neither work. Is there some password I should be entering here that I'm forgetting? |
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| 15:24.15 | tdn | I have a machine with Debian 7 and two disks. Each has been set up with LUKS and encrypted file systems. Now I want to install an unencrypted OS with XBMC along side my encrypted debian installations. How can I do this without having to reinstall everything? I basically need to add a new partition and install the OS there. Then edit my Grub menu so that it includes both operating systems. But since I use LUKS, I cannot use gparted to shrink the file systems in orde |
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| 15:27.15 | SynrG | tdn: maximum message length exceeded. truncated at "file systems in orde" |
| 15:27.46 | tdn | SynrG, thanks. Will repost the last bit. |
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| 15:28.01 | srged | How can I change the clock format? |
| 15:28.17 | meaneye | In Gnome srged ? |
| 15:28.36 | tdn | ....file systems in order to get more space. What to do? This is my output from lsblk: http://paste.yt/p3185.html |
| 15:28.40 | mtn | !tell srged about ask |
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| 15:29.02 | srged | meaneye: LXDE |
| 15:30.05 | SynrG | tdn: i have know particular experience in this area. so i just have the same tools you do: the doc, and the web ... i'm sure you've seen pages like: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ResizeEncryptedPartitions |
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| 15:30.24 | SynrG | and while on ubuntu's site, that may contain some general tips |
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| 15:30.59 | srged | actually i see the settings. and its now the 24h format and it says "%R"... whats the code for the 12h format ? |
| 15:31.20 | SynrG | it sounds rather involved to me, so i tend to agree with the initial statement "It may in fact be easier to re-install and restore your data from backup rather then attempt to resize your encrypted partition." if it's really this convoluted |
| 15:31.47 | mtn | srged: google knows ;) |
| 15:31.55 | SynrG | and in general if you don't have a backup to begin with, you should, before you do anything this drastic, anyway. |
| 15:31.56 | tdn | SynrG, I don't think there is much difference between ubuntu and debian in this case. However, I have read that page, but I an not too familiar with modifying volumes in LVM. So I was hoping for some way to use gparted or similar tool. |
| 15:32.17 | SynrG | tdn: well, as i said. out of my depth ... |
| 15:32.24 | tdn | SynrG, ok. |
| 15:33.20 | tdn | SynrG, I think I will just install debian with XBMC on a USB drive and then use that to boot from when I need to watch something. Do you know a way to install efficiently on a USB drive? |
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| 15:34.36 | mtn | tdn: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en |
| 15:35.18 | tdn | mtn, is this instructions on how to create my own "livecd" usb? |
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| 15:35.35 | tdn | mtn, or how to create a USB installer? |
| 15:35.35 | mtn | tdn: nope. you didn't say anything about a live disk. |
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| 15:35.47 | mtn | tdn: I guess you could read the link ;) |
| 15:36.03 | tdn | mtn, yeah, this is not a livecd. I just found lots of instructions that were on how to create livecd. |
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| 15:36.29 | tdn | mtn, I am trying, but I am missing a good title or heading describing the content. |
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| 15:37.10 | tdn | mtn, to me it seems to be about how to copy the debian installer ISO onto a USB? |
| 15:37.18 | tdn | mtn, I want to install the actual OS on a USB drive. |
| 15:37.28 | mtn | tdn: really? it says: Debian CD and DVD images can now be written directly a USB stick, which is a very easy way to make a bootable USB stick. Simply choose a CD or DVD image that will fit on your USB stick. See Section 4.1, âOfficial Debian GNU/Linux CD/DVD-ROM Setsâ to get a CD or DVD image. |
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| 15:38.03 | mtn | tdn: and yes, it is to make an installer disk |
| 15:38.08 | tdn | mtn, yeah, sure. Debian CD and DVD images are usually installers, right? I do not want a installer. |
| 15:38.21 | tdn | mtn, I want to install ONTO a USB stick. |
| 15:38.46 | tdn | mtn, so that when I insert this USB stick, it will boot up a different OS which shows XBMC instead of my desktop OS. |
| 15:38.47 | mtn | tdn: yes I got that. have you tried using a search engine to answer your question? that is what I would have to do :P |
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| 15:39.14 | tdn | mtn, as I said, I have tried. And found lots on how to create either installers or livecd's. |
| 15:39.19 | mtn | tdn: I was a little confused on what you wanted to do. sorry about that. |
| 15:39.24 | SynrG | i'd use two usb devices, one for the installer, the second as the target drive. from the installer's pov, it looks just like an ordinary hdd |
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| 15:40.04 | tdn | mtn, but I guess I could just insert the USB stick and install onto it as if it were a regular hard drive. However, I was interested in hearing if there were better ways. So that it is optimized a bit for running on a somewhat slow medium as the root fs. |
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| 15:40.45 | mtn | tdn: SynrG's answer is right on. you could use a dvd and install to usb, too |
| 15:40.48 | SynrG | tdn: that wouldn't fundamentally change the installation method, but would simply be a matter of tuning of the target system. there's lots of general advice out there about this |
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| 15:41.04 | tdn | SynrG, yeah, that'd be what I would do if there is no better way. But I was thinking that there might be some specific file systems that would be better suited and maybe some various options that would be good. Like avoiding swap. But maybe other things as well. |
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| 15:41.34 | SynrG | swap is always inefficient. but it's preferable to the system crashing |
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| 15:41.50 | SynrG | so when i install to SD device, i put swap on it anyway |
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| 15:44.08 | RoyK | SynrG: swap isn't always inefficient - if you have apps/processes allocating memory and not using it (malloc(); memset(); etc), swapping that out results in more available memory usable for caching or more apps |
| 15:44.21 | RoyK | SynrG: that's how modern operating systems work |
| 15:45.35 | centrx | the kernel never gets to swap in regular use if you have a reasonable amount of RAM |
| 15:45.37 | SynrG | don't lecture me. i know this. take the word "inefficient" out of my initial statement. that was sloppy. |
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| 15:46.22 | tdn | SynrG, I have plenty of RAM to run XBMC (16 GB). I will do without swap for this use. |
| 15:46.29 | SynrG | it sucks when you don't have enough ram and things go to swap, but that's preferable to doing without swap. so i no longer avoid it, even on SD |
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| 15:46.41 | SynrG | RoyK: ^^ this is my point |
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| 15:47.34 | SynrG | tdn: fair enough. the risk of ever running out is slim to none in that case |
| 15:47.40 | tdn | SynrG, sure, I agree with your points on a regular system. This is for a special purpose though. |
| 15:47.45 | SynrG | yep |
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| 15:47.56 | tdn | SynrG, and worst case is I have to reboot to restart XBMC. No biggie. |
| 15:48.00 | SynrG | as for filesystem, i've never really cared for "exotic" filesystems and just use ext4 |
| 15:48.10 | tdn | Also, if it uses 16 GB RAM in XBMC something went wrong anyway. |
| 15:48.15 | SynrG | it seems there's a greater amount of hassle to deal with them than just using the default |
| 15:48.21 | tdn | SynrG, any special mount options? |
| 15:48.39 | tdn | SynrG, or a special block size, etc? |
| 15:48.57 | tdn | SynrG, noatime is on my list. |
| 15:49.19 | SynrG | sounds like you've already done your research there. i don't think i can add anything to it |
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| 15:49.58 | SynrG | running an OS from SD is going to be slow. you might tune to squeeze a few percentage points out of it ... but those won't be noticable overall. |
| 15:50.14 | tdn | SynrG, I was thinking about using something like cramfs or squashfs for /usr and then load it into RAM on boot. However, I have zero experience creating squashfs. |
| 15:50.27 | SynrG | so in the end, it's what you can tolerate. if xbmc seems to be running acceptably well on an install out of the box, i wouldn't bother much with tuning |
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| 15:50.55 | SynrG | but if it's horrendously slow, consider replacing the target drive with something better. |
| 15:51.17 | tdn | SynrG, or even just creating a ramdisk or tmpfs |
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| 15:51.28 | tdn | SynrG, ok. I guess Ill just try and see how it |
| 15:51.30 | tdn | goes. |
| 15:51.40 | tdn | Thanksfor your insights |
| 15:51.58 | SynrG | np. good luck |
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| 15:52.49 | SynrG | as for squashfs-based, yes, you could go with a live system + persistence partition |
| 15:52.58 | SynrG | then not have to worry about the details |
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| 16:31.07 | meaneye | Is there a way to know when packages move from unstable to testing? |
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| 16:32.40 | Brigo | meaneye, https://packages.qa.debian.org/common/index.html |
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| 16:35.00 | meaneye | Thanks. |
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| 16:36.41 | shay_shay | Hallo |
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| 16:42.36 | boudiccas | how can i increase the buffer of my terminal, as its not showing me all the history of one command please? |
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| 16:44.10 | RoyK | boudiccas: man bash - there's lots there about history |
| 16:44.39 | boudiccas | cheers ta |
| 16:47.38 | joeytwiddle | i think boudiccas wants a longer terminal scrollback. Then it depends which terminal program he is using |
| 16:47.57 | joeytwiddle | A quick trick is to do: your_command | more |
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| 16:48.42 | boudiccas | joeytwiddle; sorry, i'm not a 'he', i'm a she, and its lxterminal |
| 16:49.19 | deepblue | how to get ZoneMinder ? |
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| 16:49.50 | joeytwiddle | sorry about that boudiccas! I don't have lxterminal here but you may find some of its options with: man lxterm |
| 16:50.03 | Brigo | deepblue, what's that? |
| 16:50.11 | boudiccas | joeytwiddle; the command i'm running is a bash script name which is compiling a pdf from LaTeX |
| 16:50.47 | joeytwiddle | boudiccas: another trick you can do is save the output to a file. your_command | tee output.log 2>&1 (the last part catches errors too) |
| 16:51.03 | deepblue | Brigo, here, http://askubuntu.com/questions/347768/is-there-a-software-alternative-in-ubuntu-for-ispy-in-windows-multiple-web-cam |
| 16:51.19 | boudiccas | joeytwiddle; thats true, i'd forgotten that |
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| 16:52.07 | joeytwiddle | deepblue, you could try: `apt-cache search zonemind` and then `sudo aptitude install zoneminder` |
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| 16:53.09 | tharkun | Too often one user that wants to print some selected cells on openoffice (old stable) gets his machine locked up. Where should I start looking, cups log shows nothing, syslog shows nothing, vmstat shows nothing ... any ideas? |
| 16:53.11 | Brigo | joeytwiddle, i cannot find it in jessie |
| 16:53.43 | joeytwiddle | awh :/ I'm on evil Ubuntu |
| 16:53.52 | Brigo | deepblue, the best is to get it from their page and compile it. You can try to download it from the ppa, but you can get a mess. |
| 16:54.24 | mtn | ,v zoneminder |
| 16:54.24 | judd | Package: zoneminder on i386 -- squeeze-security: 1.24.2-8+squeeze1; squeeze: 1.24.2-8+squeeze1; wheezy: 1.25.0-4; sid: 1.26.5-3; experimental: 1.26.5-3.1; sid-multimedia: 1.27.0-dmo9; jessie-multimedia: 1.27.0-dmo9 |
| 16:54.26 | Brigo | joeytwiddle, i guess deepblue are asking about debian :) |
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| 16:54.56 | Brigo | is there such thing like jessie-multimedia?? why?? |
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| 16:57.57 | deepblue | http://paste.debian.net/124615/ |
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| 16:59.27 | Brigo | deepblue, try the solution and cross fingers :) |
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| 16:59.29 | edoardo | hi! |
| 16:59.31 | mtn | deepblue: try the solution given you |
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| 16:59.43 | edoardo | any good xrandr frontend that lets you have two screen with different content? |
| 16:59.59 | edoardo | using the default xfce i can only clone them |
| 17:00.45 | blocky | arandr? |
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| 17:01.19 | edoardo | blocky: let me check |
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| 17:03.37 | deepblue | mtn, Brigo ,joeytwiddle :thanx a lot |
| 17:03.49 | Brigo | deepblue, np :) |
| 17:04.22 | edoardo | blocky: that's perfect!!! |
| 17:04.27 | edoardo | thank you, you saved my day |
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| 17:08.05 | blocky | edoardo: no prob |
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| 17:21.52 | justanotheruser | what is the best way to run java1.7 on wheezy? |
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| 17:25.51 | wooowe | Hey, I just got a new Asus laptop with an ELAN touchscreen. There seems to be problems with it working correctly in linux. Worked fine with windows 8... but that is windows, I can't have that. |
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| 17:27.12 | wooowe | anyone have any idea if it is a driver problem or something? |
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| 17:28.21 | berarma | justanotheruser, you can install openjdk |
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| 17:31.20 | dondelelcaro | wooowe: looks like you might need a newer kernel; see http://superuser.com/questions/729894/linux-kernel-getting-elan-touchscreen-to-work-usb-debug-related |
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| 17:33.30 | wooowe | yeah, thanks man. I am running just on Ubuntu cause that is the only distro that would actually let me boot even with this error. It is running 3.13 |
| 17:34.01 | wooowe | so how exactly would i upgrade the linux kernel version? |
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| 17:35.04 | mtn | wooowe: on debian? |
| 17:35.15 | wooowe | yeah |
| 17:35.22 | mtn | wooowe: backports |
| 17:35.37 | wooowe | backports? |
| 17:35.57 | mtn | !tell wooowe about debian-backports |
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| 17:37.41 | wooowe | thanks, and the distro is ubuntu if you need any specifics |
| 17:37.53 | mtn | !ubuntu |
| 17:37.55 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
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| 17:38.23 | mtn | wooowe: ubuntu is NOT debian |
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| 17:43.59 | justanotheruser | berarma: worked with eclipse. Thanks |
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| 17:49.29 | Lady_Aleena | <backspace> (a lot) Rant canceled. |
| 17:49.49 | Blokker | damn, i could have used a good rant |
| 17:49.50 | joeytwiddle | glad to hear that |
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| 17:50.56 | Blokker | for future reference, and to save time: do ctrl+a and then hit del to clear a line instead of holding the backspace ;) |
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| 18:05.46 | Lady_Aleena | Blokker, *head desk* |
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| 18:06.51 | berarma | is the toshiba_acpi module still needed for the newer Toshiba Satellite laptops? |
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| 18:10.07 | TheCreeper | Can anyone help me? I cant seem to set group quotas correctly. I add new user to the group however it does not apply the disk disk quota. User quotas work however I cant get group quotas to work. |
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| 18:15.51 | paradigmarson | How can I set a different volume for each ear on my earphones from a text-console? Running Debian 7. |
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| 18:16.44 | darthanubis | wwo |
| 18:16.46 | darthanubis | wow |
| 18:17.12 | nkuttler | paradigmarson: depends on your setup.. alsamixer, aumix, .. |
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| 18:20.05 | paradigmarson | nkuttler: I've tried amixer and alsamixer. Both say left is different to right. Yet they sound the same. |
| 18:20.58 | nkuttler | paradigmarson: works for me |
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| 18:23.49 | paradigmarson | nkuttler: amixer says 'Mono:' in the output to >$ amixer scontents (see http://pastebin.com/7YL5iTAF ) |
| 18:23.54 | paradigmarson | Maybe this is part of the problem? |
| 18:24.51 | nkuttler | paradigmarson: no, i get the same line |
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| 18:26.12 | paradigmarson | Ah. Curious... for me it adjusts the volume of both. Well, thanks for trying. |
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| 18:42.48 | likecolacola | Hey, any hint on where i could download debian 6.0 iso? |
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| 18:46.41 | ompaul | likecolacola: please note that irc can help with things - but unless you are supporting something old use 7.0 http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ |
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| 18:47.04 | ompaul | likecolacola: also 6.0 squeeze loses all support in a measured amount of time |
| 18:47.23 | ompaul | the limit for 7.0 hasn't been set yet |
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| 18:48.06 | paradigmarson | Running startx as my normal user works from a console because allowed_users=console in /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config. But it doesn't work when run from screen(1). Is there a way to fix this without changing allowed_users? |
| 18:48.44 | kingrichardIV | has anyone else been having trouble with transmission-daemon in jessie? I had an old setup working great, upgraded my system, and it's completely ignoring my config (not even changing it) now |
| 18:48.54 | valdyn | paradigmarson: no |
| 18:49.21 | ompaul | what he said |
| 18:49.49 | likecolacola | ompaul, thanks a lot for your answer.. i want to use debian 6.0 for mysql-5.1 classes, there's no reason other than that.. |
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| 18:53.01 | ompaul | likecolacola: it also shouldn't be in production |
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| 18:53.10 | ompaul | ,v mysql |
| 18:53.11 | judd | No package named 'mysql' was found in i386. |
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| 18:53.21 | acemi | mysql-server |
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| 18:53.35 | Blokker | well, i personally dislike teaching with an old version |
| 18:53.44 | ompaul | ,v mysql-server |
| 18:53.45 | judd | Package: mysql-server on i386 -- squeeze: 5.1.73-1; squeeze-security: 5.1.73-1; wheezy: 5.5.37-0+wheezy1; wheezy-security: 5.5.38-0+wheezy1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 5.5.38-0+wheezy1; jessie: 5.5.39-1; sid: 5.5.39-1 |
| 18:54.07 | Blokker | but if you really want to likecolacola : https://www.debian.org/releases/squeeze/debian-installer/ |
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| 18:55.24 | likecolacola | ompaul, Blokker: my main OS is debian wheezy and i love it, but our databases teacher came up and said "we gona use mysql-5.1" so i need a OS supporting 5.1 for these classes... |
| 18:55.51 | Blokker | well, i doubt you'll run into any trouble with using 5.5 anyway |
| 18:55.54 | likecolacola | it's just for learning purpose, not anything near productivity, just doing some class exercises |
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| 18:57.51 | acemi | likecolacola: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/archive/ |
| 18:58.26 | likecolacola | Blokker, okey.. i will keep it in mind, thanks for the info |
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| 19:03.09 | likecolacola | acemi, thanks |
| 19:04.42 | acemi | likecolacola: np |
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| 19:08.29 | kale | hi, i'm having some problems with five-or-more on jessie, is this the right channel? |
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| 19:08.43 | acemi | likecolacola: lxc can create a container for squeeze |
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| 19:08.56 | socomm | What is five-or-more? |
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| 19:09.44 | kale | socomm: a package in jessie, has same file as another package ... |
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| 19:11.31 | socomm | kale: I guess it wouldn't help to ask. |
| 19:11.52 | socomm | kale: I guess it wouldn't hurt* to ask. |
| 19:12.41 | kale | socomm: hmm... i got the update going by removing gnome... so lets see if i get this failure later on instead |
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| 19:32.31 | wytrzeszcz | hey |
| 19:33.12 | wytrzeszcz | i have poroblem after i upgrade my sid (testing) debian i lost keyboard and mouse in laptop in xorg |
| 19:33.15 | wytrzeszcz | how to fix it? |
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| 19:34.09 | wytrzeszcz | anybody can help me? |
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| 19:35.01 | sakang | sid is un-stable |
| 19:35.25 | wytrzeszcz | i was add this repozytory to wezzy |
| 19:35.38 | ompaul | well you never ran wezzy |
| 19:35.50 | ompaul | there is no such animal you need to be accurate with your typing to make it work |
| 19:35.53 | sakang | even testing is not stable |
| 19:36.28 | fireant | wytrzeszcz: ensure all packages where upgraded, not only xorg but xf86-input-keybord and all the drivers for your machine |
| 19:36.54 | wytrzeszcz | how i can make sure that? |
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| 19:38.19 | fireant | wytrzeszcz: with dpkg? |
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| 19:40.21 | nikio_ | why amm i not able to cut n paste |
| 19:40.34 | nikio_ | specifically an elf image to my boot folder |
| 19:40.40 | nikio_ | ? |
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| 19:43.27 | wytrzeszcz | sweet i cant to run WiFi and have no another cabel connection |
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| 19:56.36 | nikio_ | why does cp boot.elf /usr/boot not copy boot.elf to boot |
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| 19:58.06 | shay_shay | is there a time when i can remount things under /target before things start to get copied to the new / ? |
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| 20:06.57 | nikio_ | why does cp boot.elf /usr/boot not copy boot.elf to boot |
| 20:07.02 | nikio_ | i am doing this as root |
| 20:07.09 | nikio_ | and i can see both the file in the folder |
| 20:07.15 | nikio_ | and the destination folder exists |
| 20:08.02 | PryMar56 | nikio_, in /usr there is now a file called `boot` |
| 20:08.16 | mechanicalduck | it's an elf! |
| 20:08.19 | mechanicalduck | it flies |
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| 20:10.08 | nikio_ | yes ther is |
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| 20:13.26 | babilen | nikio_: so, what's the problem? |
| 20:13.48 | nikio_ | i was looking in /boot |
| 20:13.55 | nikio_ | which is where i wanted it to be |
| 20:14.00 | nikio_ | x |
| 20:14.01 | nikio_ | x; |
| 20:14.02 | nikio_ | sorry |
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| 20:16.18 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps is there a fsck.ntfs? i dont see it in the repo |
| 20:16.40 | Eryn_1983_FL | i am tempted to just to a mkfs and redo the partition its got some errors and it did fix it when i mounted but.. |
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| 20:18.59 | porton | ` ({{Strong|227}}) |
| 20:19.08 | porton | (pressed wrong key) |
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| 20:19.46 | Yerst | hey |
| 20:19.47 | bl4ckdu5t | After closing Chromium browser, I have about 11 chromium processes still running |
| 20:19.49 | porton | `dpkg -p gnat` says "Version: 4.9", but `gnat-gcc --version` says (Debian 4.9.1-15) 4.9.1. Which version it really is: 4.9 or 4.9.1? |
| 20:19.57 | bl4ckdu5t | why should this be? |
| 20:20.09 | Yerst | i just switched to debian, what themes do you use? |
| 20:20.12 | Yerst | (if any) |
| 20:20.14 | bl4ckdu5t | Is it ok to just start killing all the processes? |
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| 20:20.31 | bl4ckdu5t | Yerst: What desktop are you on? |
| 20:20.39 | Yerst | gnome |
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| 20:20.51 | porton | Oh, I see: `dpkg -p gnat-4.9` says "Version: 4.9.1-1". All right. Bye |
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| 20:21.36 | bl4ckdu5t | A friend that uses gnome desktop uses a nice theme I think is called noir |
| 20:21.43 | bl4ckdu5t | I'm on KDE |
| 20:21.55 | Guest79072 | Hi everyone, i somehow canât manage to create a secondary dns on my kimsufi server, i got all my bind info there. http://paste.debian.net/124634/ and so my dig dig @my-server.com. my-univ.com works but my dig @sdns1.ovh.ca. my-univ.com doesnât work. Also my checked conf -z is good. |
| 20:22.03 | bl4ckdu5t | And I customized everything on my desktop without having to install a theme |
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| 20:22.21 | Yerst | that one:http://debian-art.org/content/show.php/Noir+(Bespin+Theme)?content=124571? |
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| 20:31.13 | shay_shay | feed meee |
| 20:31.16 | bl4ckdu5t | Yerst: not that |
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| 20:36.31 | Grogdor | ext4 is a journaling fs yes? |
| 20:36.38 | shingouz | yes |
| 20:37.14 | Grogdor | then why would it need to be fsck'd manually due to inconsistencies? |
| 20:37.32 | imaami | if the journal is inconsistent*? |
| 20:37.47 | Grogdor | not much of a journal then |
| 20:38.16 | imaami | not every journal can become a legend |
| 20:39.01 | dondelelcaro | Grogdor: there's all sorts of ways that hard drives can screw up journals |
| 20:39.05 | Grogdor | alright well i corrupted the nand on my cubieboard somehow, my ttl cable is broken so i dont actually have console access, so now im stuck reinstalling from SD... is there a flag i can set to make it auto-fsck next time i fubar the FS? |
| 20:39.06 | Guest79072 | Any ideas please ? :/ |
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| 20:39.19 | Grogdor | which will be soon, because this device is battery-powered |
| 20:39.35 | dondelelcaro | Grogdor: yes. edit /etc/default/rcS, set FSCKFIX=yes |
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| 20:39.51 | Grogdor | dondelelcaro: gracias |
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| 20:40.26 | shingouz | hmm... a journaling fs on flash? i am not too sure if that is the best possible idea considering that flash has a limited amoutn of write cycles |
| 20:40.38 | dondelelcaro | Grogdor: no problem; that probably should be the setting on any remote machine... the only reason it's not the default is because in very rare circumstances, it could fail epically |
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| 20:41.22 | dondelelcaro | shingouz: it depends on the underlying flash; it's only the cheapest that don't do wear leveling |
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| 20:42.40 | shingouz | true, just that the garden variety sd card usually comes from some el cheapo source... ;) |
| 20:43.05 | dondelelcaro | you're lucky with an el-cheapo that it actually contains the amount of flash that it says it does |
| 20:43.48 | shingouz | so very true. |
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| 20:47.21 | Grogdor | thanks. im gonna go sit by the lake and drink some whiskey now, bye. |
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| 20:51.55 | Tom01 | When I export a picture to png with Gimp, the alpha channel is not 100% transparent. It is a bit darker. How can I avoid that? |
| 20:52.13 | Tom01 | I need full transparency. |
| 20:52.33 | nkuttler | Tom01: are you sure you don't have a background or something in gimp? always worked for me |
| 20:53.23 | Tom01 | no background |
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| 21:03.54 | fireant | Tom01: maybe mode is switched indexed like in gif, insteed of rgb? |
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| 21:08.47 | Tom01 | mode is rgb |
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| 21:24.33 | Tom01 | it happens only with png. When using gif it 100% transparent. |
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| 21:24.58 | sexyboy | Tom01: what is your gimp vesion? |
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| 21:25.18 | Tom01 | v2.8.10 |
| 21:25.34 | sexyboy | try 2.8.14, it's released already |
| 21:25.39 | Tom01 | ok |
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| 21:26.32 | sexyboy | Tom01: also, i suspect that it might be because of maintainer debian patches |
| 21:26.49 | sexyboy | Tom01: i'm pretty certain that vanila build would work fine |
| 21:26.53 | Tom01 | ok |
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| 21:44.58 | fgtjhrsdthrtrwth | boring |
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| 21:46.01 | mwargh | wut |
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| 21:53.51 | Gargantua | ALSA lib dlmisc.c:252:(snd1_dlobj_cache_get) Cannot open shared library /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/alsa-lib/libasound_module_pcm_alsa.so |
| 21:53.54 | Gargantua | Playback open error: -6,No such device or address |
| 21:53.56 | Gargantua | anyone know what this means? |
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| 22:13.58 | berarma | In Debian Wheezy, in the login screen (gdm3) closing the lid doesn't suspend while in the session it does. How do I configure suspend on close lid when in the login screen? |
| 22:14.12 | incal | I just upgraded to sid (including kernel 3.16) and my autologin in /etc/inittab broke, tho it is still there with getty -a and all - any clue why and how I can get it back? |
| 22:16.14 | julienb_ | 9 |
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| 22:27.13 | berarma | anyone tried systemd in Wheezy? Does it work well? |
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| 22:28.29 | meaneye | berarma, I can say am more than happy with it in testing. |
| 22:28.39 | meaneye | Can't beat 3s boot time. :) |
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| 22:29.14 | berarma | I know it works well there, I'm using it on sid, but haven't tried on wheezy :) |
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| 22:29.25 | meaneye | berarma, ah, okay. Sorry, didn't try it. |
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| 22:30.23 | berarma | I'll give it a try but since it's a computer I'll hand to someone else I wanted to know anyone else0 |
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| 22:30.33 | berarma | else's experience |
| 22:31.25 | meaneye | Well, if you don't mind, let us know if everything behaves properly. |
| 22:31.42 | meaneye | Also, only missing part :D now in Linux desktop is Wayland, and we should be set. |
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| 22:35.37 | meaneye | I like how reportbug is affected by gtk bug and fails to start :) |
| 22:35.50 | meaneye | On Debian testing that is. |
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| 22:39.11 | berarma | there's a console version |
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| 23:06.16 | aleray | hi i'm running debian wheezy. it seems like i'm having troubles with php 5.4 is there a way to downgrade to php 5.3? |
| 23:08.25 | SynrGy | ,v php5 |
| 23:08.26 | judd | Package: php5 on i386 -- squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze17; squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze17; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze19; squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze19; squeeze-security-lts: 5.3.3-7+squeeze22; wheezy: 5.4.4-14+deb7u11; wheezy-proposed-updates: 5.4.4-14+deb7u14; wheezy-security: 5.4.4-14+deb7u14; jessie: 5.6.0+dfsg-1; sid: 5.6.0+dfsg-1 |
| 23:08.34 | SynrGy | aleray: no |
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| 23:09.52 | aleray | SynrG, can't install from squeeze? |
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| 23:13.48 | SynrGy | aleray: no |
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| 23:14.49 | aleray | SynrG, I found a couple of tutorials doing it, eg. http://blog.wpkg.org/2013/06/20/downgrading-to-php-5-3-on-debian-wheezy-7-0/ |
| 23:14.56 | aleray | what are the risks? |
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| 23:17.29 | mtn | aleray: I think it is highly unlikely that wheezy has a broken version of php |
| 23:18.37 | aleray | mtn, what do you mean? |
| 23:18.42 | mtn | aleray: depending on what you are doing, you could install squeeze in a virtual machine |
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| 23:19.28 | aleray | mtn, I'm running a webserver, deploying on django but php too |
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| 23:23.08 | aleray | mtn, do you have more info on wheezy broken php? |
| 23:23.39 | mtn | aleray: no, do you? what makes you think something is wrong with php5.4? |
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| 23:24.01 | aleray | mt, sorry I missread you |
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| 23:24.27 | mtn | aleray: I said it was highly unlikely |
| 23:25.07 | shay_shay | hello peoples |
| 23:25.22 | shay_shay | we need overhaul for D-I |
| 23:26.06 | centrx | okay I'll get right on it |
| 23:26.12 | shay_shay | thx |
| 23:26.15 | shay_shay | :D |
| 23:26.22 | mtn | crack that whip! |
| 23:26.45 | nkuttler | shay_shay: it's open source, just do it |
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| 23:29.26 | shay_shay | today i tried to manually mount stuff to /target so i could get my btrfs subvolumes mounted |
| 23:29.57 | shay_shay | i guess the two options are move all the files around and defrag after install, or deboot strap it |
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| 23:51.10 | Ademan | I think I'm about ready to switch to debian after 8+ years of ubuntu. What things do I need to prepare for being different? (For instance, iceweasel... is it regularly synced with upstream firefox? Can it run regular FF extensions?) Are non-free media packages available such as libdvdcss2 in a trustworthy repository? Also should I go for testing or unstable? Is it possible to be on testing but pull a few packages from unstable (f |
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| 23:52.17 | supay | hi, how would i fix some umnet dependencies on my kali linux vm? |
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| 23:53.48 | shay_shay | Ademan: libdvdcss2 is available from vlc... but you dont need to add it as a repo... it wont ever get updated so whats the point. but they have a repo if you want one |
| 23:53.59 | shay_shay | i would consider vlc fairly trustworthy |
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| 23:55.03 | shay_shay | Ademan: its okay to install packages from unstable on testing, but not on stable. its because testing and unstable areonly about a week apart most of the time |
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| 23:55.30 | shay_shay | on stable you would want to use wheezy-backports and/or backport packages fom sid source |
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| 23:56.30 | Ademan | shay_shay: ah thanks, any idea about the iceweasel situation? |
| 23:56.31 | supay | oops, i guess i resolved them by running apt-get -f install |
| 23:56.38 | supay | and then running apt-get install libssl-dev |
| 23:56.41 | supay | thanks anyways guys |
| 23:57.49 | iflema | Ademan: you can manually run a firefox bianry from mozilla, the iceweasel plugins are a little different. One can pull sid packeges from testing, but squeeze is in a pretty good place ATM jessie too i guess - but it is testing... |
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| 23:57.55 | shay_shay | Ademan: i'm currently using jessie and i know iceweasel is v31 atm, but you could use the version from experimental if you wanted to stay closer to bleeding edge https://packages.debian.org/experimental/iceweasel |
| 23:59.24 | shay_shay | Ademan: or like iflema pointed out you can use mozillas debian/ubuntu package |
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| 23:59.57 | Ademan | thanks |
