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| 00:00.49 | shay_shay | Ademan: http://mozilla.debian.net/ |
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| 00:00.56 | shay_shay | i forgot about this^ |
| 00:01.29 | shay_shay | it generates a sources.list line for you and then tells you a brief instruction to get it |
| 00:01.39 | iflema | Ademan: just go iceweasel, you may have no problems after change... |
| 00:01.44 | Ademan | Are either of you on jessie right now? I'd like to know the version of X.org offered. the xserver-xorg package version is 1:7.7+7 which doesn't mean anything to me (in my /var/log/Xorg.0.log I see "X.Org X Server 1.12.3") |
| 00:02.00 | Ademan | shay_shay: ah thanks |
| 00:02.30 | shay_shay | ,v xserver-xorg |
| 00:02.31 | judd | Package: xserver-xorg on i386 -- squeeze-security: 1:7.5+8+squeeze1; squeeze: 1:7.5+8+squeeze1; squeeze-backports: 1:7.6+8~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1:7.7+3~deb7u1; jessie: 1:7.7+7; sid: 1:7.7+7 |
| 00:02.45 | shay_shay | shrugs |
| 00:02.55 | shay_shay | doesnt mean anything to me either xD |
| 00:03.03 | centrx | Ademan, 7.7 is the version of the X protocol, like a supermajor version |
| 00:03.40 | Ademan | iflema: I only really care about adblock plus and noscript compatibility |
| 00:03.48 | Ademan | centrx: ah thanks |
| 00:03.57 | Ademan | ,v xserver-xorg-core |
| 00:03.58 | judd | Package: xserver-xorg-core on i386 -- squeeze: 2:1.7.7-18; squeeze-security: 2:1.7.7-18; squeeze-backports: 2:1.10.4-1~bpo60+2; wheezy-security: 2:1.12.4-6+deb7u2; wheezy: 2:1.12.4-6+deb7u2; jessie: 2:1.16.1-1; sid: 2:1.16.1-1 |
| 00:04.20 | Ademan | 1.16 sounds about right for a new X.org version |
| 00:04.21 | iflema | Ademan: noscript: [OK] |
| 00:04.28 | shay_shay | Ademan: also, /msg judd v xserver-xorg-core |
| 00:04.37 | Ademan | ah sorry, didn't mean to pollute the channel |
| 00:05.04 | shay_shay | no it was my fault |
| 00:05.38 | centrx | I blame both of you |
| 00:06.09 | centrx | !bad |
| 00:06.09 | dpkg | bad is probably Bay Area Debian, or what I am, and you know it! |
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| 00:06.37 | shay_shay | centrx: thanks we needed the reassurance |
| 00:06.41 | Ademan | welp only jessie and sid have new enough X.org for me, assuming 1.16 is the x.org version (which sounds right, since the package says it's built from the xserver module) |
| 00:07.05 | imaami | Ademan: i'm using debian unstable and i'm very satisfied with the stability |
| 00:07.31 | NiLon | I'm trying to set up streaming service for mainly audio but video would be nice too. Now I need control of what song/video plays next, I tried ffserver with ffmpeg but it's very nasty to get working. Icecast seems something nice but only works for audio. Vlc did good job but it directly doesn't offer very good api for controlling it. So, if anyone do have experience with this kind of stuff I'm in all ears |
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| 00:08.42 | Ademan | imaami: thanks, any experience with MATE on unstable? |
| 00:09.23 | shay_shay | Ademan: on irc.oftc.org, #debian-next is the official channel for testing and unstable |
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| 00:10.23 | shay_shay | s/.org/.net/ |
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| 00:10.46 | Ademan | shay_shay: thanks, I'll head over there in a bit |
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| 00:15.35 | shay_shay | Ademan: at the tasksel screen where you select the packages which will be installed, you can pick mate |
| 00:16.07 | shay_shay | xfce, mate, cinnamon, kde, gnome are the desktop options now |
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| 00:20.15 | benzrf | hey |
| 00:20.32 | benzrf | what do i run to upgrade to testing |
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| 00:22.46 | Ademan | Is netinst any more difficult to use than the other CDs? I'd rather not bother downloading 8 CDs, my optical drives are pretty flakey anyways |
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| 00:23.12 | iflema | Ademan: same same |
| 00:23.25 | iflema | just add Net |
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| 00:37.04 | erkules | ahoi. debian (jessie) already has mariadb instead of mysql as default 'mysql' or are there any plans to do the switch? |
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| 00:53.41 | shay_shay | theres no default, you install whichever one you want |
| 00:53.53 | shay_shay | they're both equally available |
| 00:54.31 | shay_shay | oh, mariadb not in wheezy |
| 00:56.00 | fiola | I'm on wheezy with backports, contrib and non-free. I installed kernel 3.16.3 manually from ubuntu repo, and it's working fine in VT mode and in X11 framebuffer, but there's no accelerated GL now (there was with the default kernel). The X11 log suggests the current fglrx-driver isn't compatible, even after a --reinstall of fglrx-driver. Not sure what to do now -- any hints most appreciated. :-) |
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| 00:59.44 | Brigo | fiola, remove the kernel from ubuntu will be a good star. |
| 01:00.03 | Brigo | !frankendebian |
| 01:00.03 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
| 01:00.54 | fiola | Thanks, I don't want a frankendebian. :-)))) So, how do I get a kosher Debian 3.16.3 installed properly? |
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| 01:00.58 | erkules | shay_shay: ok let me rephrase my question. If I install an package having a dependency to mysql-server will it be mysql or mariadb? |
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| 01:01.46 | Roenie | lols @ "!frankendebian" |
| 01:02.10 | fiola | Good term, I like it. :-) But I need a solution.; |
| 01:02.41 | Roenie | well, what did the mad scientist do with frankenstein? |
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| 01:03.12 | dvs | ,kernels |
| 01:03.13 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.17-rc5-686-pae (3.17~rc5-1~exp1); sid: 3.16-2-686-pae (3.16.3-2); jessie: 3.16-2-686-pae (3.16.3-2); wheezy-backports: 3.16-0.bpo.2-686-pae (3.16.3-2~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.60-1+deb7u3); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.57-3+deb7u2~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze6) |
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| 01:03.20 | shay_shay | well frankenstein eventually had to be put down |
| 01:03.39 | dvs | fiola: wheezy-backports maybe.... |
| 01:03.40 | chromas | Frankenstein was the mad scientist |
| 01:04.03 | shay_shay | s/frankenstein/frankenstein's monster/ |
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| 01:04.55 | Brigo | fiola, There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" |
| 01:05.02 | fiola | No problem, I'll shoot the ubuntu monster. :-) So, the closest non-rc version seems to be 3.16-2-686-pae, right? But I'm on wheezy, not sid. |
| 01:05.29 | fiola | Brigo: I know, understood, and that's reasonable. Looking for the proper Debian way. |
| 01:05.46 | Brigo | fiola, backports has one kernel 3.16 |
| 01:05.53 | Brigo | 3.16-0.bpo.2-686-pae |
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| 01:08.30 | fiola | Brigo (and others): thanks folks, trying to install 3.16-0.bpo.2-686-pae, hopefully it'll update the fglrx stuff as well. |
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| 01:08.55 | Brigo | fiola, good luck :) |
| 01:09.10 | fiola | Cheers :-=) |
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| 01:41.13 | benzrf | hey |
| 01:41.40 | benzrf | what are the odds that my sound would randomly stop working on a brand-new install while doing a crapload of updates and installations to move to testing before rebooting |
| 01:42.02 | benzrf | please tell me it's not low, because if it is, that means that what i thought was unique to my previous install is in fact not |
| 01:42.19 | benzrf | and then i will have to start screaming |
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| 01:48.49 | imaami | Ademan: no |
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| 01:53.25 | benzrf | ok wth |
| 01:53.32 | benzrf | why isn't my .profile being sourced in .bashrc |
| 01:53.36 | benzrf | or rather |
| 01:53.47 | benzrf | the larger question is why isn't it being run |
| 01:53.53 | benzrf | idr if it's normally sourced by .bashrc |
| 01:53.57 | benzrf | but doesnt it normally run? |
| 01:55.53 | shay_shay | the anser is in "man bash" under the evocation section, and then look in bashrc and see if it runs profile and vice versa |
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| 01:56.58 | benzrf | shay_shay: invocation actually d: |
| 01:57.04 | shay_shay | yes sorry |
| 01:57.08 | shay_shay | i'm a bit tired |
| 01:57.12 | shay_shay | xD |
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| 02:00.27 | shay_shay | benzrf: http://blog.flowblok.id.au/static/images/shell-startup.png |
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| 02:02.20 | shay_shay | and http://blog.flowblok.id.au/2013-02/shell-startup-scripts.html |
| 02:02.24 | shay_shay | for some contextr |
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| 02:04.10 | bluetooth_issues | i'm trying to remove the bluetooth icon from the task tray and i have no clue how to do this. |
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| 02:04.18 | bluetooth_issues | does someone wiser know? |
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| 02:10.14 | shay_shay | you dont want tp use bluetooth at all? or just the system tray icon |
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| 02:12.07 | bluetooth_issues | i don't want to use it at all |
| 02:12.11 | bluetooth_issues | my system doesn't even have bluetooth |
| 02:13.06 | shay_shay | you could blacklist the module |
| 02:13.17 | bluetooth_issues | modprobe -r ? |
| 02:14.32 | bluetooth_issues | brb |
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| 02:20.46 | funkster | so i have a embedded system that sits in remote locations of businesses and then a hosted server it has to connect to via ssh. so im wondering which should have the private/public key. the embeeded system in the offices that someone can just physically take, or the hosted server? |
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| 02:22.03 | Ademan | Oh right, also, I dual boot with Windows 7, and though I rarely boot to windows, I'd like to know if I'll have to configure grub, or if the net installer will detect windows 7 and add an entry appropriately |
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| 02:26.50 | pclover | should detect it afik |
| 02:27.01 | pclover | tho i had issues with it |
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| 02:27.40 | pclover | you might not have issues |
| 02:28.59 | Ademan | thanks |
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| 02:31.21 | mog | when i automount usb drives they are always root:root file permissions is there an easy way to fix this |
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| 02:39.02 | joewok | i have a SD card which comes with a video camera. it is supposed to be 2GB but fdisk shows only 35MB. It was mounted as : |
| 02:39.03 | joewok | /dev/sdc1 /media/hja/DV vfat rw,nosuid,nodev,relatime,uid=1000,gid=1000,fmask=0022,dmask=0 |
| 02:39.04 | joewok | 077,codepage=437,iocharset=utf8,shortname=mixed,showexec,utf8,flush,errors=remount-ro 0 0 |
| 02:39.05 | joewok | How to change those mount options. Failed to do it with the -o options in the 'mount' command. |
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| 02:53.23 | MarvelDigital | i'm on 7.6 using gtkpod 2.1.2 and it keeps crashing when i'm trying to import songs into my hard drive, any suggestions for a fix? |
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| 02:53.36 | bluetooth_issues | how do i disable bluetooth-applet? |
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| 02:59.25 | MarvelDigital | bluetooth_issues, maybe check the /etc/init.d/bluetooth to stop the service? |
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| 03:01.17 | bluetooth_issues | the service is stopped |
| 03:01.28 | bluetooth_issues | i meant the applet that shows up in the tray |
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| 03:08.24 | bluetooth_issues | bluetooth-applet is what it's called, i just don't know how to prevent it from running |
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| 03:08.58 | bluetooth_issues | found "startup applications" in preferences, disregard |
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| 03:15.02 | benzrf | i have serious problems. |
| 03:15.37 | benzrf | i did an autoremove and it tossed out a lot of stuff i wanted |
| 03:15.38 | benzrf | wth? |
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| 03:17.22 | benzrf | alsamixer seems to be gone |
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| 03:22.32 | roue_ | hola |
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| 03:23.22 | benzrf | what package has nm-applet |
| 03:23.29 | benzrf | and what package has alsamixer |
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| 03:25.13 | _1_Carlos | ola |
| 03:25.14 | neilthereildeil | hey guys |
| 03:25.32 | neilthereildeil | i am trying to set up a network bridge to my Xen VMx over my wireless connection |
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| 03:26.04 | neilthereildeil | but every time i try to bring up xenbr0, it says: |
| 03:26.05 | neilthereildeil | No working leases in persistent database - sleeping. |
| 03:26.10 | neilthereildeil | any idea what the issue is? |
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| 03:27.47 | neilthereildeil | i see it running DHCPdiscover |
| 03:27.51 | neilthereildeil | with different intervals |
| 03:27.58 | neilthereildeil | but it doesnt get an IP address |
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| 03:34.59 | neilthereildeil | any ideas? |
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| 03:39.00 | shay_shay | Ademan: as long as windows and linux are both mbr or both uefi. if you mix and match setup will be trickier |
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| 03:42.56 | shay_shay | I'm dual booting here I just use my bios boot menu to boot windows ... but then again I dont use grub either |
| 03:44.41 | benzrf | how do i fix my no sound |
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| 03:50.24 | benzrf | help please :{ |
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| 03:51.36 | mATEZ | hi, is that normal that there is temporal new directories on /proc ? |
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| 03:52.58 | mATEZ | named like "31920" |
| 03:53.55 | benzrf | mATEZ: yes, /proc is a virtual filesystem where files and dirs correspond to running processes |
| 03:54.58 | mATEZ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:56.29 | muzgo | debian-7.6.0 amd64 running as guest in qemu 1.5.0 segfaults when trying to run Xorg (tried fbdev and vesa drivers). any fixes or stuff to try? |
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| 04:24.41 | JesseW | (I think this is probably a FAQ, but I can't find it there...) How do I get a list of Build-Depends for a package? |
| 04:25.39 | benzrf | JesseW: jessie would be more appropriate :3 |
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| 04:26.35 | JesseW | benzrf: particularly if I was running jessie, rather than wheezy.. :-/ |
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| 04:29.32 | JesseW | humph. `aptitude build-dep wine` fails, but `apt-get build-dep wine` works. Humph. |
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| 05:12.56 | Disconsented | Anyone have experience getting debian to work under Hyper - V ? |
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| 05:13.37 | Disconsented | nvm |
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| 05:21.14 | noLimitz | was wanting to buy a pc game have not gotten one in a while any recommendations? |
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| 05:26.02 | bbigras | noLimitz: On Linux or Windows? |
| 05:26.36 | noLimitz | windows |
| 05:27.01 | bbigras | noLimitz: Shadow of mordor seems nice. |
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| 05:27.32 | bbigras | noLimitz: There's also Wasteland 2 if you like old style like Fallout 2. |
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| 05:34.09 | dabu6_ | hi |
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| 05:50.24 | Arahael | What' |
| 05:50.32 | Arahael | What's the quickest way for me to connect my server to a wireless network? |
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| 05:50.39 | dsps | hey guys |
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| 05:50.53 | dsps | can someone please help me connect to my wireless network form the command line? |
| 05:51.21 | Arahael | dsps: That's the exact same question I asked 2 seconds ago! |
| 05:51.35 | dsps | ohh haa |
| 05:51.39 | dsps | i just got into this room |
| 05:51.41 | JesseW | https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse |
| 05:51.47 | dsps | can u tell me what u did please? |
| 05:52.07 | Arahael | dsps: Same as you, so far. We should check out JesseW's answer. |
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| 05:53.12 | Arahael | JesseW: Yep, that's perfect - thanks. :) |
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| 06:03.38 | ruukasu | did something just happen to repos? |
| 06:03.56 | JesseW | Arahael: just the result of https://duckduckgo.com/?q=debian+command+line+wireless+network&t=debian |
| 06:04.01 | ruukasu | tried to install something, unavailable, update, unavailable |
| 06:04.03 | JesseW | glad it helped |
| 06:04.11 | ruukasu | updated again and it worked |
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| 06:04.40 | Arahael | JesseW: Speaking of duckduckgo. That search irritates me... Does it move the results down once the images have loaded, for you? |
| 06:05.02 | JesseW | how do I add a 2nd graphical workspace in wheezy? |
| 06:05.05 | Arahael | JesseW: (On my android tablet, this always results in me selecting the link above what i want, because it moves the page down just before it registers my tap) |
| 06:05.22 | Arahael | JesseW: What do you mean by 'workspace'? Do you mean virtual desktop? |
| 06:05.22 | JesseW | Arahael: I haven't noticed it doing that -- but I'm not using an android device... |
| 06:05.35 | JesseW | Arahael: yes, that would be the right word. :-) |
| 06:05.59 | Arahael | JesseW: Then "wheezy" is unrelated. That question completely depends on the window manager you have selected. |
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| 06:06.18 | Arahael | JesseW: Gnome and KDE default to having four such virtual desktops, unless they've changed that. |
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| 06:07.14 | JesseW | yeah, I have default Gnome, with the fancy newness, and I can't figure out how to turn on (or get to, if it already exists) the other virutal desktop... |
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| 06:07.43 | JesseW | ah, found it |
| 06:07.57 | JesseW | now just to figure out the key combo... |
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| 06:09.01 | Arahael | JesseW: I stopped using gnome when they changed the keyboard combinations. |
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| 06:09.09 | JesseW | heh |
| 06:09.10 | Arahael | JesseW: Alt+F4 closing my apps irritated me. |
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| 06:52.04 | colo-work | The following packages have unmet dependencies: |
| 06:52.04 | colo-work | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:52.15 | colo-work | what's wrong there? (Debian Wheezy amd64 w/ backports enabled) |
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| 06:55.45 | rwp | colo-work, Likely a problem in the backports dependencies. Please apt-get update. Please then show the entire problem in a pastebin. |
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| 06:58.19 | colo-work | rwp, http://paste.debian.net/124710/ |
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| 06:59.00 | rwp | The important clue is: qemu-system-x86 : Depends: ipxe-qemu (>= 1.0.0+git-20131111.c3d1e78-1~) but 1.0.0+git-20120202.f6840ba-3 is to be installed |
| 06:59.02 | colo-work | ah, I solved it. |
| 06:59.10 | rwp | What does apt-cache policy ipxe-qemu say? |
| 06:59.16 | rwp | Oh good. What was it? |
| 06:59.36 | rwp | Did you need to say -t backports when you installed? |
| 06:59.40 | colo-work | I removed and re-installed (explicitly from wheezy-backports this time; had the vanilla wheezy release installed before) ipxe-qemu |
| 07:00.08 | colo-work | I did say that wehn originally installed qemu-kvm and its deps |
| 07:00.09 | towski | my computer seems to having trouble establishing ssl connections |
| 07:00.17 | rwp | Then I think for future reference I think you missed saying -t wheezy-backports. |
| 07:00.30 | rwp | As in: apt-get -t wheezy-backports install foo |
| 07:00.37 | towski | nvm worked that time |
| 07:00.39 | rwp | Because that will tell it to pull from the backports target. |
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| 07:00.47 | colo-work | rwp, apparently, the new qemu-kvm packages depend on one additional package from bpo |
| 07:00.55 | colo-work | while the version prior to the latest update did not |
| 07:00.56 | rwp | See the instructions at: http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ |
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| 07:01.04 | rwp | For the -t option. |
| 07:01.05 | Disconsented | How do I got from my desktop to full cli? |
| 07:01.18 | colo-work | yup, I got it now :) thanks rwp |
| 07:01.24 | rwp | Good deal. |
| 07:01.40 | colo-work | Disconsented, just invoke a terminal emulator with a shell running inside it? :) |
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| 07:06.16 | gribouille | hi |
| 07:06.30 | gribouille | does Grub support LVM RAID1? |
| 07:06.32 | Disconsented | Yeah I can do that but I am playing with my window managers so I don't want to break everything |
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| 07:08.18 | rwp | gribouille, Usually you put RAID1 under LVM so there isn't a conflict. |
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| 07:12.49 | gribouille | rwp, what do you mean? |
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| 07:15.02 | rwp | gribouille, RAID1 creates /dev/mdX and that is usually used as a PV for LVM. |
| 07:15.36 | rwp | gribouille, Maybe I should just say yes it is supported. I have grub, RAID1, and LVM all together on many systems. |
| 07:16.12 | gribouille | rwp, I want to use the raid features of lvm |
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| 07:16.28 | rwp | Ah... That is a different question. |
| 07:16.41 | rwp | And to that I don't know. I am not using the raid features of LVM. |
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| 07:21.45 | gribouille | is iy possible to test my grub configuration before rebooting? |
| 07:22.04 | Arahael | gribouille: How would it be tested? |
| 07:22.18 | Arahael | gribouille: Instead, what you should do is have a plan for when it fails. |
| 07:22.50 | l3dx | _when_ it fails, not if! :D |
| 07:23.45 | gribouille | how can I know if grub can handle the root file system? |
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| 07:26.56 | Arahael | l3dx: I did say that, didn't I? P) |
| 07:26.57 | Arahael | :) |
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| 07:38.47 | rwp | gribouille, If it is important then you should create a test system and test there. Then after you are confident then transport the config to the production machine. |
| 07:40.02 | gribouille | ok |
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| 08:25.15 | TomyWork | a legacy package has maintainer scripts with ". /usr/share/debconf/confmodule" at the top and "db_stop" at the bottom and nothing else from debconf. Is there any good reason to keep those in or can I remove them? |
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| 08:25.48 | {w}izard | Hi everyone |
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| 08:27.12 | {w}izard | I'm using the last version of debian 7.6. but now I'm facing a small problem. I create an user and I need to grant permissions to this users that allows the change of network configuration and the date & time. Anyone knows how can I do that? |
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| 08:28.22 | heurist | {w}izard: makes scripts that do the jobs you want and allow only those scripts in sudo |
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| 08:29.06 | {w}izard | I guess this is done via gnome right? |
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| 08:30.56 | {w}izard | the date & time, it's easy, because the gnome shows and option to "Unlock" and that works fine |
| 08:31.11 | {w}izard | but to change the network configuration. I can't find anything similar to that |
| 08:31.35 | heurist | {w}izard: does network-manager not work? |
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| 08:31.42 | d3lphi | Hey all. I need Bind9 --with-dlopen support. I installed the stable Bind 9.8.x version from offical Wheezy repository, but "named -V" output doesn't include the required "--with-dlopen" compile option. I tried also BIND 9.9.5-4~bpo70+1-Debian from wheezy-backports, but no success either :( How can I installed Bind9 with ... |
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| 08:31.58 | d3lphi | dlopen support, without having it compiling on my own? |
| 08:31.58 | {w}izard | yes i't works |
| 08:32.09 | {w}izard | but I can't change the settings |
| 08:32.25 | {w}izard | the "Option" button is disable |
| 08:33.23 | heurist | {w}izard: I know nothing about gnome nor network-manager, so I can not help any more, sorry. |
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| 08:35.08 | tapout | nasm hello.asm -o hello.o -e elf64 |
| 08:35.08 | tapout | nasm: error: more than one input file specified |
| 08:35.16 | tapout | anyone know why it says multiple input files ? |
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| 08:40.29 | berarma | {w}izard, try adding the user to the netdev group |
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| 08:41.36 | berarma | tapout, I guess you should put hello.asm at the end |
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| 08:44.37 | {w}izard | berarma, not working |
| 08:45.29 | heurist | {w}izard: you need to log out and log back in before changes to groups are applied. |
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| 08:46.21 | {w}izard | I know that, I reboot the system |
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| 08:46.40 | {w}izard | and the "Options" button still disable |
| 08:47.51 | berarma | {w}izard, strange, I think I've never seen the options button disabled when login with the user Debian creates at install |
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| 08:49.26 | {w}izard | take a look at this image: http://www.opensourceforu.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/07/4-GNOME-3-network-settings.jpg |
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| 08:50.02 | berarma | it doesn't seem disabled |
| 08:50.26 | {w}izard | on my case shows: "Wired, Unmanaged - 100 Mb/s, the mac information" and the "Options" button disable |
| 08:50.53 | berarma | have you tried air plane mode off? |
| 08:51.05 | berarma | mmm |
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| 08:51.40 | berarma | ok, unmanaged means it's not managed by network-manager, you might have a configuration in /etc/network |
| 08:51.51 | Disconsented | Any clues on how to run slim? (typing 'slim' returns nothing and just prompts for a new command) |
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| 08:52.48 | heurist | Disconsented: probably service start slim ? |
| 08:53.08 | Disconsented | that works for desktop managers /? |
| 08:53.09 | berarma | {w}izard, you have to remove or comment out any configuration lines in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 08:53.29 | {w}izard | where I can change that option? |
| 08:53.55 | {w}izard | no, never |
| 08:53.56 | heurist | Disconsented: yes, or service xdm start if xdm is configured to run slim. |
| 08:53.59 | {w}izard | this is a fresh install |
| 08:54.20 | berarma | did you select manual network configuration maybe? |
| 08:54.34 | berarma | show us your /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 08:55.08 | {w}izard | I have a configuration on /etc/network/interfaces, that probably is the same configuration that was used during the installation process. because I use an netinst image |
| 08:55.19 | Disconsented | Hmm service returns 'command not found' |
| 08:55.19 | Senji | cloning from github at 80kb/s |
| 08:55.26 | Senji | what the fuck |
| 08:55.47 | heurist | Senji: language please. |
| 08:56.47 | jelly | Disconsented: it only makes sense to run that command as root, so it's in /usr/sbin which is absent from normal user's PATH by default |
| 08:56.49 | heurist | Disconsented: what does ls /etc/init.d/ | egrep "dm|slim" say? |
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| 08:57.25 | Senji | I can feel the hamster wheels in the datacenter where github is hosted. |
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| 08:57.30 | heurist | jelly: I keep assuming that running as root is obvious, I never think to mention it. /doh |
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| 08:58.01 | Disconsented | http://i.imgur.com/J00CciQ.png |
| 08:58.33 | Disconsented | and heurist that command reports slim |
| 08:58.44 | jelly | Disconsented: huh. That ought to have started X as well. |
| 08:58.46 | biggi_mat | Hello. Just a quick question regarding kernel upgrade. I installed linux-image 3.16 from wheezy-backports (on Debian 7 wheezy) and it removes initramfs-tools. That’s to be expected and doesn’t break anything? |
| 08:58.47 | Disconsented | /etc/X11/default-display-manager also reports slim |
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| 08:59.16 | heurist | Disconsented: your screenshot implies slim is now started? so you are sorted out? |
| 08:59.19 | jelly | Disconsented: there might be issues with X drivers, is there anything in /var/log/Xorg.0.log? |
| 08:59.26 | Disconsented | nope heurist |
| 08:59.40 | {w}izard | this is may intefaces file: http://pastebin.com/5TF0qxgh |
| 09:00.00 | Disconsented | no Xorg log |
| 09:00.06 | heurist | Disconsented: ctrl-alt-f7 maybe? |
| 09:00.41 | Disconsented | ctrl-alt-f7 ? |
| 09:00.47 | Disconsented | also http://i.imgur.com/dWzdSQK.png |
| 09:00.53 | Disconsented | How do I start x ? |
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| 09:01.12 | jelly | Disconsented: is xorg package installed? |
| 09:01.16 | berarma | {w}izard, please, read https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkManager#Wired_Networks_are_Unmanaged |
| 09:01.20 | heurist | biggi_mat: it should not uninstall initramfs-tools it should upgrade it to the backports version. you will almost definitely need initramfs-tools |
| 09:01.32 | biggi_mat | heurist: yeah, I’m seeing that… |
| 09:01.39 | biggi_mat | Why doesn’t it, though? :( |
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| 09:02.03 | Disconsented | No it isn't |
| 09:02.09 | Disconsented | Time to install it I guess |
| 09:02.15 | jelly | Disconsented: did X ever work on this machine? |
| 09:02.31 | jelly | yeah, install it for a start |
| 09:02.33 | Disconsented | I installed debian via netinstall ~20 mins ago |
| 09:02.36 | heurist | !tell biggi_mat -about bat |
| 09:02.45 | Disconsented | so no I guess |
| 09:02.47 | berarma | biggi_mat, updating dependencies in backports must be done manually |
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| 09:03.29 | biggi_mat | berarma: means I should wget && dpkg -i requirements? |
| 09:03.49 | heurist | biggi_mat: never do that! |
| 09:03.57 | biggi_mat | Hum.. |
| 09:04.11 | jelly | berarma, what did you mean by <berarma> biggi_mat, updating dependencies in backports must be done manually |
| 09:04.18 | heurist | biggi_mat: see the message the bot sent you, give us some feedback about the commands you ran. |
| 09:04.26 | biggi_mat | heurist: working on it, yeah |
| 09:04.30 | berarma | biggi_mat, jelly, sorry, I automatically thought about aptitude |
| 09:04.45 | {w}izard | hey, I set managed=true and now I'm able to see the "Options" button |
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| 09:05.13 | {w}izard | but now, all the information are disable |
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| 09:05.27 | {w}izard | I'm not able to set the ip to manual, etc |
| 09:05.42 | Disconsented | ah ha! |
| 09:05.44 | Disconsented | That was it |
| 09:05.46 | Disconsented | cheers |
| 09:05.51 | Disconsented | installing the xorg package sorted it |
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| 09:07.42 | biggi_mat | heurist: http://paste.debian.net/124729/ |
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| 09:08.49 | Disconsented | Oh wee I forgot to install a window manager |
| 09:08.57 | Disconsented | Any idea on how to get to command line? |
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| 09:09.14 | heurist | Disconsented: ctrl-alt-f1 |
| 09:09.20 | chrisc | Ctrl Alt F1 |
| 09:09.25 | chrisc | :-) |
| 09:09.38 | chrisc | and get back to X11 with Ctrl Alt F7 |
| 09:09.39 | Disconsented | cheers |
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| 09:09.54 | Disconsented | now to decide on what window manager I want XD |
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| 09:11.59 | heurist | biggi_mat: aptitude install -t wheezy-backports linux-image-3.16-0.bpo.2-amd64 |
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| 09:12.17 | biggi_mat | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 26 Jul 16 13:34 vmlinuz.old -> boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-4-amd64 |
| 09:12.18 | biggi_mat | root@ip-10-69-160-7:~# aptitude install -t wheezy-backports linux-image-3.16-0.bpo.2-amd64 |
| 09:12.19 | biggi_mat | No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed. |
| 09:12.29 | biggi_mat | I shall restrain from copying that many lines |
| 09:13.27 | heurist | biggi_mat: maybe try aptitude install -t wheezy-backports linux-image-3.16-0.bpo.2-amd64 initramfs-tools |
| 09:13.32 | biggi_mat | heurist: basically it qut |
| 09:13.34 | biggi_mat | Oh…okay |
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| 09:14.13 | biggi_mat | heurist: this basically worked to some extent |
| 09:14.19 | biggi_mat | It doesn still have a conflict with dracut |
| 09:14.29 | heurist | biggi_mat: that tell it to use the wheezy-backports release and to install both the kernel and initramfs-tools from there. |
| 09:14.31 | biggi_mat | Which…I should find out what is it anyway |
| 09:14.45 | heurist | biggi_mat: do you have dracut installed? |
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| 09:14.53 | biggi_mat | I obviusly had it |
| 09:15.19 | biggi_mat | I never even knew what that is |
| 09:15.23 | biggi_mat | Up until right now reading about it |
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| 09:15.41 | heurist | biggi_mat: if you want it then maybe install it from backports, if not then remove it. |
| 09:15.48 | berarma | the aptitude gui doesn't automatically upgrade dependencies from backports, I have to mark them manuall, I guess it's different in the cli |
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| 09:16.34 | biggi_mat | heurist: it conflicts initramfs-tools so it’s been removed. I, not knowing about it, do not want it of course |
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| 09:17.29 | heurist | biggi_mat: dracut is another initramfs management tool, pick which one you want. initramfs-tools is the default. |
| 09:17.46 | biggi_mat | heurist: I shall stay with the default. Thank you. |
| 09:18.06 | heurist | biggi_mat: then you do not need initramfs-tools, I assume. |
| 09:18.39 | biggi_mat | I lost you at this sentence right now but okay :) |
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| 09:19.07 | heurist | biggi_mat: basically: pick one. you only need one. |
| 09:19.29 | biggi_mat | heurist: as I said - done. I’ve chosen initramfs as I know it :) |
| 09:20.09 | biggi_mat | heurist: thank you for your guidance |
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| 09:21.06 | heurist | biggi_mat: I misread default as dracut in your message. my mistake. hungry and making errors because the stomach does not want to be here. going somewhere to appease the stomach now. |
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| 09:21.40 | biggi_mat | Do that :) |
| 09:21.56 | infinitytrapdoor | Hey everyone. I'm running Debian Jessie on my X220. After the latest "apt-get dist-upgrade" i can't use my screen-brightness keys (fn+home/end) anymore. My questions: 1) Is there a way to find out my "version" of Jessie and report the problem somewhere? 2) Has anybody else have the problem since the last update? |
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| 09:50.15 | berarma | infinitytrapdoor, the version of Jessie is Jessie. You can user reportbug to report the but with the needed information |
| 09:50.26 | berarma | but/bug* |
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| 10:01.24 | DarkLinkXXXX__ | None of my sound architectures seem to work anymore. Could it be that my sound card driver has stopped working properly? |
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| 10:10.26 | infinitytrapdoor | @berarma: k, ty |
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| 10:42.10 | blues-man | hello, I have bash 4.2+dfsg-0.1+deb7u3 con a debian wheezy machine but curl https://shellshocker.net/shellshock_test.sh | bash tell me that is still vulnerable to segfault attack, I wonder why according to https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-6277 |
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| 10:42.27 | hest | should i just comment out everything in the file? |
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| 10:48.51 | Yerst | hey |
| 10:49.01 | nosklo | blues-man: hm, it happens with me too |
| 10:49.09 | Yerst | when i change my gnome-shell.css and restart the gnome-shell, nothing happens |
| 10:49.41 | Yerst | do you know why? |
| 10:51.20 | blues-man | nosklo, the bash version is correct, we should try with a greater or lower version of bash with that test script, with centos it didn't report any vulnerability |
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| 11:05.11 | Yerst | when i change my gnome-shell.css and restart the gnome-shell, nothing happens |
| 11:05.22 | Yerst | what could be a reason for this? |
| 11:05.34 | Yerst | i use the file in /usr/share/gnome-shell/theme/gnome-shell.css |
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| 11:13.46 | nosklo | Yerst: I have used this https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/19/user-themes/ |
| 11:14.35 | nosklo | never tried changing values directly |
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| 11:21.32 | likecolacola | Hey... i am using Debian Wheezy and need arial font as requirement for homework... i am somehow new to linux, i have searched google looking for the package and while i have found it, it doesnt show up in apt-get, any tip? |
| 11:22.24 | daemonkeeper | Arial is a non-free font. If you really need it install ttf-mscorefonts-installer |
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| 11:24.47 | nosklo | dpkg: tell likecolacola about mscorefonts |
| 11:24.50 | likecolacola | daemonkeeper, it's a requirement for an specific homework, otherwise i would never get near it... the thing is that it's not in my repositories |
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| 11:25.14 | daemonkeeper | As said, it's non-free. |
| 11:25.19 | likecolacola | nvm, i think i have to add the non-free |
| 11:25.20 | likecolacola | ty |
| 11:25.26 | Epakai | it's in contrib, not non-free |
| 11:25.27 | daemonkeeper | Well, contrib actually. |
| 11:25.27 | nosklo | no, it is in contrib |
| 11:25.34 | nosklo | dpkg: tell likecolacola about contrib |
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| 11:25.52 | Epakai | the package just downloads them elsewhere and extracts them |
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| 11:28.09 | likecolacola | thaaaanks!! |
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| 11:34.29 | Yerst | nosklo: thx, but where do you change values like panel color with that extension? |
| 11:34.38 | Yerst | y |
| 11:34.45 | torbjorn__ | is it possible to get a list installed usigned packages ? .. My google-fu isn't quite up to the job, I'm getting the impression apt / dpkg doesn't retain signing information after installation ? |
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| 11:36.32 | heurist | torbjorn__: I do not believe that data is retained. |
| 11:38.26 | heurist | torbjorn__: it may be in the logs. if you know of at least one package that was not signed, search for it in /var/log/apt/ and or /var/log/aptitude and the rotated versions. |
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| 11:44.13 | torbjorn__ | heurist: Seems to me you're right, the check happens before install and isn't retained. A quick grep in the logs doesn't seem to reveal anything interesting there, either. Thanks for your time |
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| 11:45.47 | misterli | ive a question. ive replaced my init script the --name with --exec and get the error above. any idea why? http://pastebin.com/8dcvkqn6 |
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| 11:50.26 | Agiofws | hello |
| 11:50.28 | Agiofws | is there any kind of open source s/w that recognizes NUMBERS in jpg images ? |
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| 11:54.17 | nosklo | Agiofws: there's tesseract |
| 11:54.44 | sexyboy | Agiofws: yeah, tesseract |
| 11:54.48 | nosklo | Agiofws: package tesseract-ocr |
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| 11:55.04 | nosklo | Agiofws: but I'm not sure it uses jpg files, I think you'll have to convert the file first |
| 11:55.21 | sexyboy | Agiofws: but rather don't expect it to translate "unclean" images to proper text |
| 11:55.21 | Agiofws | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:55.42 | nosklo | Agiofws: I've used it to break simple captchas. |
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| 11:56.36 | nosklo | Agiofws: My captcha was 5-digit-only so when I got a non-digit from tesseract or result with different length I just reloaded the captcha to try again |
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| 11:58.23 | d3lphi | hello. How can I check on my Debian Wheezy host, if NTPD has been compiled with "--enable-ntp-signd" option ? |
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| 12:00.43 | petn-randall | d3lphi: You can download the source and check it there, but I think you can probably find out an easier way, depending on what you want to achieve. |
| 12:01.04 | heurist | d3lphi: strings `which ntpd` | grep signd implies it might be. |
| 12:03.22 | heurist | d3lphi: also /usr/share/doc/ntp/changelog.Debian.gz says is was turned on in 2009 and not mention of it being turned off. |
| 12:03.25 | d3lphi | heurist: it returns: |
| 12:03.25 | d3lphi | MS-SNTP signd operations currently block ntpd degrading service to all clients. |
| 12:03.25 | d3lphi | ntpsigndsocket |
| 12:03.27 | d3lphi | /var/run/ntp_signd |
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| 12:03.37 | d3lphi | sorry :( |
| 12:03.44 | d3lphi | heurist: does it mean, it is included? |
| 12:04.08 | heurist | d3lphi: it does not mean that. but it suggest that. also see /usr/share/doc/ntp/changelog.Debian.gz |
| 12:04.37 | petn-randall | d3lphi: Ok, let's ask the other way around. Want to you want to achieve by knowing this? |
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| 12:05.03 | d3lphi | I need it for samba4/NTP according to this HowTo https://wiki.samba.org/index.php/Time_Synchronisation |
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| 12:06.05 | d3lphi | I am running ntpd - NTP daemon program - Ver. 4.2.6p5 on my Debian Wheezy host. I have to be sure, that this option is included in my NTP daemon before I continue with setup |
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| 12:07.01 | petn-randall | d3lphi: Ah, it's a bummer it doesn't explain more verbosely for what it's needed. In that case you can verify it by running 'apt-get source ntpd', and checking the Makefile in debian/rules. |
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| 12:07.47 | awm | http://ohjp.teresnab.ru/84247/r1586154/ ðåà ëüÃû çà ðîáîòîê äëÿ òåáÿ áåç âëîæåÃèé)sdf |
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| 12:07.58 | awm | http://ohjp.teresnab.ru/84247/r1586154/ ðåà ëüÃû çà ðîáîòîê äëÿ òåáÿ áåç âëîæåÃèé)cb |
| 12:07.59 | heurist | d3lphi: the changelog does say "Compile with --enable-ntp-signd to enable mssntp for use with samba" so it sounds like they have done that for samba. |
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| 12:09.38 | d3lphi | heurist: check Makefile.am or Makefile.im doesnt find any string with "signd" |
| 12:11.06 | heurist | d3lphi: I do not know, I will stop guessing. |
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| 12:12.47 | d3lphi | heurist: I have unpacked the debian-part of "apt-get source ntp" and found a file "rules". See here ==> http://paste.debian.net/124748/ On line 30 it seems that's included. So I guess it's in there |
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| 12:14.11 | heurist | d3lphi: looks like it. why not postpone worrying about till you have time-sync issues? |
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| 12:15.22 | d3lphi | heurist: because I like "clean" setups and not experimental ones |
| 12:15.41 | petn-randall | d3lphi: Yes, that's the proof that it's there, now on to the next step of the howto :) |
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| 12:16.14 | d3lphi | petn-randall: ok, thank you |
| 12:16.29 | d3lphi | heurist: petn-randall: thanks for assistance |
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| 12:16.58 | petn-randall | d3lphi: You're welcome, come back if you have any other debian related questions. :) |
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| 12:19.35 | kdub_ | trying to package a project so that it can be built using sbuild --host armhf --build amd64, and I get some error about a compile mismatch... any ideas? |
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| 12:32.41 | iio7 | How do I pass compile options to a package that I have downloaded using apt-get source? I have tried 'DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS="--with-tlslib=OpenSSL"', but the package still compiles using GnuTLS. |
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| 12:35.09 | octocpp | in debian, does usermod -G groupname username , overwrite the groups for the user, and you should use -a to append rather? |
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| 12:36.41 | heurist | octocpp: that is what the manual says. yes. |
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| 12:37.49 | octocpp | heurist: thanks |
| 12:38.21 | acemi | octocpp: adduser username groupname works too |
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| 12:39.17 | octocpp | acemi: is there one for removing a user from a group? |
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| 12:39.43 | acemi | octocpp: deluser |
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| 12:40.26 | octocpp | not to be confused with userdel right :) lol |
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| 12:48.44 | santiago_32 | hi people |
| 12:49.07 | santiago_32 | can i upgrade from wheezy backports to testing in a safe way? |
| 12:49.26 | santiago_32 | or just change the sources and dist upgrade? |
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| 12:49.53 | asterismo | i have a stable system with some backport |
| 12:49.54 | asterismo | s |
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| 12:58.00 | asterismo | i have a couple of lines in my sources |
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| 12:58.16 | asterismo | external sources |
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| 12:58.33 | asterismo | i have to disable them to do the upgrade to testing, right? |
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| 13:02.24 | nkuttler | asterismo: well, neither external sources nor testing is supported in here.. but yeah, you should probably never have used third party repos.. |
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| 13:06.46 | asterismo | nkuttler: i hat to add some packages to make run netflix and other stuff |
| 13:06.54 | asterismo | i had* |
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| 13:07.35 | asterismo | nkuttler: but my question is if a wheezy+backports is more stable than testing, or i just upgrade to testing and enjoy the newer software... |
| 13:07.46 | petn-randall | asterismo: Make backups, then just try it. There's no easy way to know for sure if it creates any problems other than actually testing it. |
| 13:08.12 | asterismo | petn-randall: nkuttler, is testing software, newer than backports? |
| 13:08.16 | petn-randall | asterismo: wheezy+backports is a _lot_ more stable than testing. |
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| 13:08.44 | asterismo | petn-randall: ok, thats something |
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| 13:09.12 | petn-randall | asterismo: Sometimes, yes. Nothing in backports will be newer than testing, though. Backports is either older or just as old as testing, to ensure a clean upgrade path. |
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| 13:09.59 | asterismo | i would have a newer KDE |
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| 13:11.07 | asterismo | i was hoping that the browser and email applications in KDE would be better than iceweasel and icedove |
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| 13:12.41 | TomyWork | how do i list all installed packages matching a glob |
| 13:12.44 | Plastefuchs | Is the man page for man specific to debian? As in, is the section description in it the one used by debian (since they can differ a little bit between distros) |
| 13:13.03 | TomyWork | postgresql-*, for instance |
| 13:13.33 | wols_ | TomyWork: just like that. package* |
| 13:14.04 | wols_ | Plastefuchs: sections are the same across all of unix/linux |
| 13:14.21 | TomyWork | err i want the version numbers, i forgot that :) |
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| 13:15.05 | Plastefuchs | wols_: not in system v !1!! :V |
| 13:15.13 | Plastefuchs | wols_: but ok, i take that as a given now :3 |
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| 13:26.05 | awm | http://ohjp.teresnab.ru/84247/r1586154/honest income money without cheating regestriruetsya) $ 1000 in 2 days |
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| 13:49.17 | fiola | What is the correct way of recovering from this situation? --> linux-image-3.16-0.bpo.2-686-pae : Breaks: initramfs-tools (< 0.110~) but 0.109.1 is to be installed" |
| 13:49.38 | abrotman | fiola: how did you install it? |
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| 13:49.47 | _1_Michael | tja |
| 13:49.58 | _1_Michael | (L) |
| 13:49.59 | somiaj | ,v initramfs-tools |
| 13:50.00 | judd | Package: initramfs-tools on i386 -- squeeze: 0.98.8; squeeze-backports: 0.109.1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 0.109.1; wheezy-backports: 0.115~bpo70+1; jessie: 0.116; sid: 0.118 |
| 13:50.06 | _1_Michael | ???????? |
| 13:50.16 | babilen | _1_Michael: Can we help you? |
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| 13:51.35 | babilen | fiola: You probably forgot to pass "-t wheezy-backports", but then we have no idea as you are not providing more information |
| 13:51.39 | babilen | dpkg: tell fiola -about bdo kernel |
| 13:51.56 | fiola | I just did a plain apt-get install of linux-headers-3.16-0.bpo.2-686-pae (suceeded) and then of linux-image-3.16-0.bpo.2-686-pae (which failed). |
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| 13:52.10 | babilen | fiola: And you are on wheezy? |
| 13:52.13 | fiola | Yes |
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| 13:52.49 | fiola | Sorry, a bit new with Debian but trying to learn what needs to be specified when asking question here. |
| 13:52.50 | babilen | fiola: You have to provide the "-t wheezy-backports" option to tell apt that it should install the package (and its dependencies) from wheezy-backports |
| 13:53.15 | fiola | Aha! It's not enough to have wheezy-backports in apt/sources.lst? |
| 13:53.21 | abrotman | no |
| 13:53.25 | abrotman | the instructions say this |
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| 13:54.19 | fiola | Very cool, which are the official instructions for this, will save me asking questions. |
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| 13:56.50 | wjtaylor | Why is Iceweasel sucking up 99% cpu and choking off my system. I have a 2.6 quad core and having a dozen tabs open renders the system useless. 12 GB RAM. |
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| 13:57.35 | centrx | wjtaylor, Latest version? |
| 13:57.44 | wjtaylor | 7 |
| 13:57.49 | centrx | wjtaylor, Probably one of those tabs has a website with some rude JavaScript |
| 13:57.54 | wjtaylor | aweful... wish I had stuck with 6 |
| 13:57.58 | wjtaylor | awful |
| 13:58.13 | fiola | wjtaylor: Got NoScript installed? If not then all versions of Firefox will use all your CPU. It's not a Firefox/Iceweasel problem, it's a web problem. The web is broken. |
| 13:58.34 | centrx | You can switch to chromium if it really is iceweasel |
| 13:58.39 | wjtaylor | fiola, NoScript? what does it do? |
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| 13:58.58 | fiola | wjtaylor: It puts Javascript in chains. |
| 13:59.10 | centrx | or AdBlock |
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| 13:59.33 | wjtaylor | fiola: affect pandora, etc? |
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| 14:00.39 | centrx | You can enable which sites or functionality can have JavaScript as I recall |
| 14:00.52 | fiola | wjtaylor: It affects *everything*. Like I said, the web is broken. The sites without Javascript are nearly non-existent. The best you can do it let NoScript control it for you, by only enabling temporarily the current page. |
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| 14:02.09 | fiola | Next time you come across your friendly neighbourhood webbie, give them a good kicking. It won't help, but it'll relieve the stress. |
| 14:02.11 | wjtaylor | fiola: part of the standard repos? |
| 14:02.13 | wjtaylor | I'm not seeing it |
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| 14:02.46 | fiola | wjtaylor: It's a Mozilla add-on, go to their usual place. It's something like addons.mozilla.org |
| 14:02.52 | wjtaylor | ah |
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| 14:07.04 | abrotman | wjtaylor: noscript is packaged in Debian already |
| 14:07.26 | wjtaylor | abrotman: I didn't have it |
| 14:07.36 | abrotman | you might have to install it .. |
| 14:07.55 | abrotman | judd: versions xul-ext-noscript |
| 14:07.56 | judd | Package: xul-ext-noscript on i386 -- squeeze: 1.9.9.69-1; wheezy-backports: 2.6.8.4-1~bpo70+1; wheezy: 2.6.8.19-1~deb7u1; jessie: 2.6.8.43-1; experimental: 2.6.9~rc3-1; sid: 2.6.9-1 |
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| 14:08.10 | fiola | abrotman: awesome, thanks for that info! xul-ext-noscript - permissions manager for Iceweasel and Iceape |
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| 14:09.59 | fiola | babilen: Your advice about "-t wheezy-backports" worked perfectly, it grabbed the required initramfs-tools 0.115 and no hiccups. many thanks :-))) |
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| 14:11.05 | ztane | in jessie, how do I configure kb layout for console? |
| 14:11.26 | ztane | worked before dist-upgrade (raspbian) |
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| 14:12.51 | babilen | fiola: Wonderful -- http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/apt.html#idp8530784 |
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| 14:15.24 | ztane | ah I think I just had removed console setup |
| 14:15.33 | fiola | babilen: Aha, excellent. I had the sources set up, but I see the important -t info in section 6.1.2.4. Super, I'll have a good read, thanks :-) |
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| 14:19.22 | wjtaylor | fiola: do you have no script working with msn? |
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| 14:20.28 | fiola | wjtaylor: I don't think I've ever visited MSN. Nothing of the Microsoft world has been part of my life for decades. |
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| 14:21.22 | wjtaylor | fiola: I hear you, but they are a common home page. I use it only to know what everyone is seeing. Keeps me in tune with the "real" world. |
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| 14:22.01 | fiola | But the general idea is the same for all sites: (i) you visit site; (ii) it fails, because the web is broken; (iii) you temporarily enable one JS source, see if page then works; (iv) you progressively add another JS source at a time, temporarily, until it works. |
| 14:22.09 | wjtaylor | google home page is redundant with a google search bar |
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| 14:23.04 | wjtaylor | fiola: That's where I had difficulty... I'm not seeing a script to enable. lol. The other sites, I did that and it works good. Pandora has been leaned down.. |
| 14:23.18 | wjtaylor | Does ice weasel enable google analytics? |
| 14:23.20 | fiola | Don't use Google, they're leading the destruction of the web with JS as all their advertising and user tracking depends on it. DuckDuckGo works perfectly. |
| 14:24.08 | wjtaylor | fiola: It's just all lucene anyways, correct? |
| 14:24.46 | wjtaylor | and some syntactic sugar |
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| 14:25.24 | fiola | If you want to get really depressed, install not only the NoScript add-on, but AdBlock, FlashBlock, Ghostery, and HTTPS-Everywhere (last one is from EFF, not Mozilla repo). You'll never think the web is cool again. |
| 14:26.00 | qjqqyy | meh, I just let google spy on me |
| 14:26.07 | qjqqyy | at least it tells me how many minutes I am from home |
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| 14:26.40 | wjtaylor | I don't even care about ads. Just don't track me. |
| 14:26.51 | wabuh | requestpolicy is a nice one as well |
| 14:26.52 | fiola | Ghostery will show all the trackers. |
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| 14:27.08 | Lindrian | Hello. |
| 14:27.24 | Lindrian | I want to install sosreport on my debian machine, can someone please assist me? |
| 14:27.24 | fiola | Very comprehensive add-on, it detected many thousands of hidden tracking elements. |
| 14:27.34 | heurist | ,checkbackport sosreport |
| 14:27.36 | judd | Backporting package sosreport in sid→wheezy/i386: all build-dependencies satisfied using wheezy-backports, wheezy. |
| 14:27.44 | heurist | !tell Lindrian -about ssb |
| 14:28.13 | Lindrian | what even what |
| 14:28.16 | Lindrian | huh |
| 14:28.23 | fiola | Aha, are the ! commands instructions to dpkg bot? |
| 14:28.37 | heurist | Lindrian: see the message the bot sent you. |
| 14:28.41 | Lindrian | i did |
| 14:28.46 | Lindrian | i know some of those words. |
| 14:29.00 | Lindrian | Most of it is not clear however. |
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| 14:30.06 | heurist | Lindrian: checkbackport sosreport implies you should be able to build a backport for wheezy. the ssb message give you the place to start working on that. |
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| 14:30.33 | Lindrian | I'm a complete rookie at this, could you please elaborate a bit further on what I need to do? |
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| 14:32.02 | heurist | Lindrian: I do not have the time right now. but the steps are: read the message research each part you do not understand, backup before you do *anything*. ask here is you have specific questions. |
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| 14:33.15 | heurist | !tell fiola -about dpkgbot |
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| 14:34.28 | fiola | Cheers |
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| 14:46.31 | franknight3 | word up! |
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| 14:56.50 | trampel | this is odd. did a dist-upgrade yesterday and along with another bash update it truncated my .bash_history to zero |
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| 15:03.26 | Iridos | trampel, let me try an upgrade |
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| 15:04.15 | Iridos | trampel, hm, I don't have another bash upgrade on that one |
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| 15:04.48 | trampel | admittedly i'm on testing... so i probably shouldn't even be mentioning this here. |
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| 15:04.57 | Iridos | ah |
| 15:05.04 | trampel | sorry. nevermind. |
| 15:05.24 | Iridos | yes... there's #debian-next on irc.oftc.net for testing, though |
| 15:05.47 | jhutchins | trampel: There's no problem with asking about testing or unstable here, it's just that there's a higher concentration of knowledge on those releases in #debian-next on oftc.net. |
| 15:06.58 | Iridos | trampel, actually... https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=704664 seems closeish... |
| 15:07.13 | Iridos | but I think that one's a known thing for 20 or so years |
| 15:07.21 | Iridos | not pleasant, but known |
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| 15:12.44 | Iridos | trampel, oh my... it's actually a nice little list: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=bash; |
| 15:12.54 | Iridos | some packages get more use and bug reports than others, I'd say |
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| 15:13.55 | JordiGH | The network-manager applet isn't showing me possible VPN connections. Some kind of bug; if I restart, it shows a different set of VPN connections out of the total pool that I have, and doesn't show the one I want. |
| 15:14.01 | JordiGH | What recourse do I have? |
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| 15:14.19 | trampel | somehow i think a mere "hey my .bash_history" was blitzed would get lost in the current bash imbroglio. but thankee anyways. |
| 15:15.00 | Iridos | trampel, there's at least 5 or so reports of various problems with .bash_history ... this was just what caught my eye first |
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| 15:16.21 | trampel | i'd at least humbly recommend that if anyone was so foolish as to come to depend upon the contents of .bash_history, to consider backing it up more frequently than i did |
| 15:16.55 | Iridos | trampel, AMEN (me takes the opportunity to make a copy of .bash_history) |
| 15:17.02 | tsam | Do any of you hava any example of an architecture *not* supported by Debian? |
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| 15:17.27 | meaneye | Nintento 64? |
| 15:17.28 | zumbi | tsam: what do you mean? |
| 15:17.49 | zumbi | tsam: cris isnt supported, nor bootstrapped; sh4 is bootstrapped, not supported |
| 15:17.50 | centrx | sparc was removed from releases |
| 15:18.04 | zumbi | sparc is supported in stable |
| 15:18.14 | zumbi | but unlikely on next-stable |
| 15:18.15 | tsam | zumbi: nevermind, I'll just use http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux 's platforms and then substract the one supported by Debian. :) |
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| 15:19.56 | zumbi | tsam: also in a Debian system, /usr/share/dpkg/*table can give you hints on what actually could be supported and what couldn't |
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| 15:21.10 | tsam | zumbi: oh nice. |
| 15:21.11 | tsam | thanks |
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| 15:25.10 | sharp15 | is there a way to instruct debian/apt to recreate the contents of /boot? i have a odd extra initrd/vmlinuz file pair that don't seem to be attached to a package. i installed using the 'graphical installer' on the debian network install cd yesterday, so it is a fairly clean install. |
| 15:26.18 | petn-randall | sharp15: I'm pretty sure everything in /boot belongs to either grub or linux-image packages. The initrd is created on post-install of the linux-image-* package. |
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| 15:30.03 | fiola | sharp15: It does no harm to have multiple images in /boot. I keep a whole pile of them organized in subdirectories within /boot, with corresponding menuentry's added to grub.cfg through /etc/grub.d/40_custom, it's useful insurance. |
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| 15:33.01 | zumbi | tsam: also note Debian "supports" more than Linux (kernel) |
| 15:33.24 | franknight3 | "Deep Impact", heh! |
| 15:33.52 | tsam | zumbi: I know, I was looking for arch only, not "port" like kfreebsd and hurd. :) |
| 15:34.10 | tsam | (It's for a quiz I don't want to make the questions too disturbing/hard) |
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| 15:35.53 | zumbi | tsam: https://release.debian.org/wheezy/arch_qualify.html |
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| 15:36.56 | tsam | Thanks. :) |
| 15:37.20 | sharp15 | one of the grub menu entry sets is causing a problem. the kernel it boots does not have access to the hardware drivers (i.e. wireless networking). and another extra boots an old ubuntu install on a second partition using a debian built kernel. i'm still pulling files from the ubuntu partition. |
| 15:37.21 | zumbi | tsam: then those are likely to change for jessie... |
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| 15:39.22 | sharp15 | i guess i didn't format the /boot partition during install. the version numbers seem to match ubuntu kernel version numbers. |
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| 15:41.29 | sharp15 | so if i format the partition would "dpkg-reconfigure grub && dpkg-reconfigure linux-image" put me back to a bootable system with debian running the boot sequence? |
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| 15:48.44 | sharp15 | nm. i think i found a way to do it without formatting. |
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| 15:52.23 | coudy1 | any help how to upgrade package from latest source > |
| 15:52.26 | coudy1 | ? |
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| 15:53.44 | SoCloseToToast | Hi |
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| 15:54.12 | SoCloseToToast | I have a question about wine: Am I required to have X running for executing wine? |
| 15:54.33 | tsam | coudy1: you should probably just ask your question and see if you get answers. |
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| 15:55.16 | SoCloseToToast | I want to install windows server software. But I don't want to have a graphical system running. So my idea was: Installing X/Gnome - installing the server software - shuting down the graphical server and execute the server software with wine trough cli |
| 15:55.22 | SoCloseToToast | Anyone experience with that? |
| 15:55.34 | tsam | SoCloseToToast: did you try dosbox? |
| 15:56.06 | tsam | or dosemu |
| 15:56.07 | SoCloseToToast | tsam: Won't work |
| 15:56.44 | nurupo | say i have added a new user with "sudo useradd --system --shell /sbin/nologin --user-group my-new-user-group" |
| 15:56.44 | nurupo | how can i restrict that user from accessing anything besides /var/lib/my-directory/ ? |
| 15:58.45 | nurupo | i did "sudo chown my-new-user-group:my-new-user-group /var/lib/my-directory/" and "sudo chmod 700 /var/lib/my-directory/", but that just for preventing anyone but my-new-user-group accessing /var/lib/my-directory/, when i want /var/lib/my-directory/ to be the only place my-new-user-group can access |
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| 16:00.02 | jelly | nurupo: you can't, unless you make sure all the processes that are going to be run as that user run in a chroot |
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| 16:03.25 | mtn | SoCloseToToast: you might find more help at #winehq on the freenode server and http://www.winehq.org/ |
| 16:03.35 | SoCloseToToast | Thank you |
| 16:03.41 | coudy1 | tsam: I have asked, problem with slapd, I can't restart it, it freeze, and I can't login to that machine. I have found some bugs on current stable version, so I want to know, if it is possible upgrade it from source, not from binary/testing |
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| 16:05.03 | nurupo | jeekl: ty. i'm writing a daemon that faces the network, wnat to isolate it as much as possible. will make the init script use --chroot then |
| 16:05.12 | nurupo | *want |
| 16:06.43 | akp | how can i get dpkg --configure to give a more verbose output on what it is doing |
| 16:06.43 | akp | ? |
| 16:07.08 | jelly | coudy1: http://ltb-project.org/wiki/download#openldap -- more up-to-date, linked against OpenSSL, builds. Haven't tried them yet. |
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| 16:07.38 | jelly | coudy1: you can also try backporting openldap source from debian unstable, read /msg dpkg ssb |
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| 16:11.59 | andygraybeal | are there certification programs for debian |
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| 16:23.39 | babilen | andygraybeal: no |
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| 16:26.20 | |xk05| | ive got a couple packages that are segfaulting, pretty much whatever i try to do with them with apt, any suggestions? |
| 16:26.34 | atlasherk | http://mfxd.oblogs.ru/131877/2303562/ 60 cent for me |
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| 16:28.01 | d7415 | Hi. The debian testing cds automatic signing key (that's listing on debian.org/CD/verify) should be in the debian-keyring package and on the debian keyring keyserver, right? Because it doesn't seem to be in either |
| 16:28.33 | sharp15 | is the main apt data cache (the location of all the downloaded .deb files) in /var/cache/apt/archive ? |
| 16:29.27 | centrx | sharp15, yes |
| 16:29.44 | sharp15 | centrx: thanks. |
| 16:30.57 | centrx | sharp15, see also apt-get clean/autoclean |
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| 16:33.00 | sharp15 | centrx: i wanted to copy them to another machine so i didn't spend my time and the package server's time downloading them again later. there is a chance i may be reinstalling later. |
| 16:33.25 | franknight3 | I have 128 meg ram. |
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| 16:34.34 | heurist | sharp15: the autoclean option is nice for that, since it removes any debs that are not available anymore, and that you would therefore not be resinstalling. (newer versions available and such) |
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| 16:49.35 | Nova_ | Thanks you, but if you make an account with that url you will have 10 usd for start... https://www.digitalocean.com/?refcode=57f20058a282 |
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| 16:57.39 | alimon | hi all |
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| 17:05.24 | jhutchins | !tell sharp15 about apt-cache |
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| 17:06.33 | jhutchins | sharp15: Sorry, not relevant at all. Need more coffe. |
| 17:06.40 | jhutchins | !apt-offline |
| 17:06.40 | dpkg | To use apt on a machine that doesn't have a network connection (if you have a separate machine that does have a network connection), read http://batmat.net/apt-offline/ch3.html . Ask me about <apt-zip>, <apt-walkabout>. |
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| 17:07.16 | jhutchins | sharp15: There are some other tools that will let you do single downloads for multiple machines. |
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| 17:08.21 | jhutchins | Some distro I worked with for a while had a system where you had a "master" machine and you could update a whole set of local machines with only one download per package. Might have been Mandrake. |
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| 17:17.04 | sharp15 | jhutchins: ok. i'll keep that in mind. |
| 17:17.56 | sharp15 | i mangled an install earlier by trying to do something fancy and the fix may involve reinstalling. |
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| 17:19.19 | d7415 | For anyone who read my question, https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=707006 seems to say it shouldn't be on the keyring. Even though the verify page ont eh website says "The keys used for these signatures are all in the Debian GPG keyring and the best way to check them is to use that keyring to validate via the web of trust" |
| 17:19.39 | d7415 | thinks the website and package maintainers need to talk more |
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| 17:21.53 | mechanicalduck | hi |
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| 17:22.23 | dondelelcaro | d7415: the website relies on people to make patches to it; please propose one |
| 17:23.14 | dondelelcaro | d7415: the source code for it is available, or at the least, you can file a bug against www.debian.org |
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| 17:23.41 | d7415 | Ok, thanks. WIll take a look |
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| 17:26.14 | edoardo | hello ^^ |
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| 17:26.45 | edoardo | why can't i find the source of the kernel i'm using? |
| 17:26.57 | edoardo | apt-cache search doesn't show anything |
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| 17:27.29 | edoardo | here are my repos: http://paste.debian.net/124865/ |
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| 17:31.58 | Blokker | also, shouldn't you need a deb-src for your main repo? The only src you have is for wheeze while you are running jessie |
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| 17:33.45 | edoardo | Blokker: "apt-cache find -rt" (since i'm using a rt kernel) |
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| 17:46.49 | JIV | Hello, where are cron jobs stored for user on drive? I have old system drive backup with dd and cant fing where are cron jobs stored :/ |
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| 17:49.23 | Sark__ | OK, well, I'm stumped. I'm trying to record line in, and I can't get anything to work. Not audacity, not arecord, nothing. The card shows up, it shows as having an analog capture component. I have everything enabled, unmuted and turned up in alsamixer... |
| 17:49.28 | Sark__ | I'm not sure where to turn now. |
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| 17:52.13 | JIV | nobody knows where are cron jobs stored? |
| 17:52.19 | Sark__ | crontab -e |
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| 17:52.48 | Sark__ | will launch an editor and you can edit your crontab. contrab -l will just list your crontab |
| 17:52.53 | RayzrShrp | anybody know why the backports hash is failing today? |
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| 17:54.14 | JIV | Sark__: i know that but this system is off, so i have only snapshot. |
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| 17:54.48 | Sark__ | oh - /etc/crontab |
| 17:55.14 | Sark__ | and I think the user ones are in /etc/cron.d |
| 17:55.35 | Sark__ | at least, IIRC. |
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| 17:56.48 | hmw_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:58.08 | JIV | hmw_: yep, thanks |
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| 18:03.18 | franknight3 | is back from the dead. Gone 12 days 4 hrs 43 mins |
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| 18:09.13 | Coudy | Hi, I have straaange problems with my Debian Stable, after some time, I can't login to server, but network is ok, I have still one ssh connection established, It happens right now, I can't start / stop any service, cpu is idle, and free is 302MB ram, |
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| 18:11.00 | Coudy | any help where should I look ? this is last line in messages > alg: No test for uthenc(hmac(sha1),cbc(des3_ede)) (authenc(hmac(sha1-ssse3),cbc(des3_ede-generic))) |
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| 18:14.28 | Coudy | this is last line from ssh debug2: we sent a password packet, wait for reply, then it ends with timeout |
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| 18:15.58 | jelly-home | Coudy: look at the process list (ps -fe, or pstree -Apa); look at (or pastebin) the last ~100 lines of /var/log/kern.log or dmesg command output, and auth.log for sshd issues; look at vmstat 1 or iostat -x 1 for disk load |
| 18:16.38 | jelly-home | Coudy: VM or physical machine? |
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| 18:17.27 | atlasherk | http://fleg.trosnab.ru/131877/5101362/ 70 cent for click for me |
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| 18:19.38 | Coudy | jelly-home: xen vm |
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| 18:21.24 | Coudy | jelly-home: ps -fe http://paste.jabbim.cz/6606 |
| 18:21.54 | jelly-home | Coudy: look it all those "CRONs" |
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| 18:22.43 | jelly-home | Coudy: I'm not saying it's the entry point, but webmin has had really crappy security history |
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| 18:23.36 | Coudy | kern.log http://paste.jabbim.cz/6607 |
| 18:23.54 | jelly-home | Coudy: look at which files one of those processes has opened before killing them. lsof -np 1861 |
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| 18:24.07 | edoardo | where are the realtime kernels gone? |
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| 18:24.28 | edoardo | i have two different machines with the same sources.list but one doesn't show the rt kernel in synaptic |
| 18:24.35 | edoardo | the other one lists it fine, though |
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| 18:25.21 | Coudy | jelly-home: so many cron processes , it is ok ? |
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| 18:25.58 | jelly-home | Coudy: no, it's not |
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| 18:26.11 | jelly-home | Coudy: look at which files one of those processes has opened before killing them. lsof -np 1861 |
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| 18:27.26 | Coudy | jelly-home: too late, already killed :-( sorry |
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| 18:29.13 | jelly-home | !pal Coudy |
| 18:29.13 | dpkg | points at Coudy and laughs hysterically |
| 18:29.37 | jelly-home | it can happen again and you won't know the cause |
| 18:29.40 | phuh | Is it bad to install systemd on debian? |
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| 18:29.57 | phuh | does it conflict with the default sysvinit ? |
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| 18:31.03 | Coudy | jelly-home: I write your command to text file, if it happen again, I'll investigate it, here is auth.log http://paste.jabbim.cz/6608 |
| 18:31.23 | jelly-home | phuh: they can't both run at the same time for obvious reasons, but they will be co-installable in the next release. |
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| 18:32.11 | phuh | jelly-home: i see |
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| 18:32.44 | phuh | is sysvinit considered a decent one? |
| 18:32.54 | caf|k|uego | Is it broken on your system? |
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| 18:33.40 | tsam | win 10 |
| 18:33.52 | phuh | i've been using supervisord so i have no experience with sysvinit |
| 18:33.58 | jelly-home | wonders who gave cafuego a k |
| 18:34.02 | Coudy | jelly-home: and iowait is on 0 |
| 18:34.19 | caf|k|uego | jelly-home: totally self-applied |
| 18:34.22 | jelly-home | phuh: what's supervisord? |
| 18:34.46 | phuh | python based process control system http://supervisord.org/ |
| 18:34.48 | caf|k|uego | jelly-home: my keyboard *is* totally 18,000km away. I'm very much away from it :-) |
| 18:35.16 | phuh | i used it cause it was easy, but i realized i need a better control with a proper init system |
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| 18:35.30 | jelly-home | caf|k|uego: I'm totally impressed with your input device abilities. |
| 18:35.46 | caf|k|uego | jelly-home: right? super long range bluetooth ftw |
| 18:35.58 | caf|k|uego | hope the batteries don't run out soon, that'll be tedious |
| 18:36.26 | jelly-home | phuh: I can't really comment as we still use DJB's daemontools in lots of places |
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| 18:38.01 | phuh | what's the most popular init system for debian users in general? |
| 18:38.12 | phuh | do they just use sysvinit? |
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| 18:38.36 | caf|k|uego | Yup. It's worked for decades. |
| 18:38.54 | jelly-home | phuh: yes, with caveats as mentioned. |
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| 18:39.15 | jelly-home | phuh: debian is a great platform to build things on |
| 18:39.35 | jelly-home | sometimes you want to use components that are not installed by default, and that's okay |
| 18:40.22 | jelly-home | the repos have daemontools, runit, monit, upstart, systemd, and probably other related software |
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| 18:40.51 | phuh | can i completely delete sysvinit then switch over to systemd as well? |
| 18:41.38 | edoardo | halp |
| 18:41.41 | edoardo | halp plz |
| 18:41.42 | jelly-home | phuh: if it works for you, sure |
| 18:41.46 | jelly-home | ,v systemd |
| 18:41.47 | judd | Package: systemd on i386 -- wheezy-security: 44-11+deb7u4; wheezy: 44-11+deb7u4; wheezy-backports: 204-14~bpo70+1; jessie: 215-5+b1; sid: 215-5+b1 |
| 18:42.04 | jelly-home | phuh: the wheezy-backports version is reasonably fresh |
| 18:42.31 | jelly-home | !tell edoardo about ask |
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| 18:44.19 | jelly-home | phuh: the farther you stray from a default setup, the more specific knowledge you need and less places to ask for help |
| 18:44.35 | edoardo | I have a problem with dkms; I'm running Debian version Jessie. When I try to install a package of a module I get the following output "cannot find source for current kernel". I expected it to just build the module and activate it. |
| 18:44.54 | phuh | jelly-home judd: thanks for the advice and help |
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| 18:45.04 | edoardo | Amazingly, i can't find any source in synaptic |
| 18:45.18 | edoardo | only linux-source, that doesn't seem to do anything |
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| 18:46.04 | jelly-home | edoardo: if you're using an outdated kernel not in the repo any more (CTCP says you're booted into 3.14-2-rt-amd64) you'll have to get linux-headers-3.14-2-rt-amd64 package from snapshot.debian.org |
| 18:46.43 | jelly-home | ,kernels |
| 18:46.45 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.17-rc5-686-pae (3.17~rc5-1~exp1); sid: 3.16-2-686-pae (3.16.3-2); jessie: 3.16-2-686-pae (3.16.3-2); wheezy-backports: 3.16-0.bpo.2-686-pae (3.16.3-2~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.60-1+deb7u3); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.57-3+deb7u2~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze6) |
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| 18:46.54 | edoardo | oh! that's why |
| 18:47.11 | edoardo | i'm using 3.14-2 |
| 18:47.51 | jelly-home | edoardo: if `uname -r` says 3.14-2-rt-amd64, that's what's relevant |
| 18:47.56 | edoardo | jelly-home: still, i don't get how you know my kernel version |
| 18:48.19 | edoardo | i'm on 3.16 on this pc |
| 18:48.22 | jelly-home | edoardo: irc clients have a command to ask each other the version |
| 18:48.36 | edoardo | and 3.14-2 on the laptop, which is not connected to irc |
| 18:48.40 | jelly-home | did /ctcp edoardo VERSION |
| 18:49.06 | edoardo | very strange O_o |
| 18:49.07 | jelly-home | edoardo: and yet, your xchat says the booted kernel is 3.14-2-rt-amd64 |
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| 18:49.46 | jelly-home | edoardo: look at what "uname -r" says on the machine where you're running the irc client |
| 18:50.43 | edoardo | 3.16-1-rt-amd64 |
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| 18:51.00 | jelly-home | that _is_ interesting :-) |
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| 18:51.32 | edoardo | however, i'm upgrading on the laptop, hope it works :) |
| 18:51.43 | franknight3 | Feed me |
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| 18:51.52 | Deeps | does anyone know why during a raid6 resync, why it would be much much slower at the start (first 20% at 15MB/s) and then suddenly speed up to about 52MB/s from there on, despite the activity profile on the array not changing? (0 activity on the disk) |
| 18:52.00 | edoardo | just installed debian testing, and i really like xfce + openbox |
| 18:52.08 | Deeps | this is using linux md raid (mdadm) |
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| 18:52.26 | edoardo | since i always use my pc for live graphics (concerts etc...) it's very flexible |
| 18:52.28 | jelly-home | Deeps: #linux-raid channel might know, maybe |
| 18:52.33 | Deeps | thanks jelly |
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| 19:01.53 | GNU\colossus | I think booting a recent kernel with some particular HID module disabled (OR enabled, I'm really not sure any more!) irrevocably broke my new laptop's touchpad. |
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| 19:02.04 | GNU\colossus | I can't get it to work again. |
| 19:02.19 | GNU\colossus | xinput registers the device as present, but no input event is ever generated by it. |
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| 19:02.38 | GNU\colossus | not even if I just `cat` its device node |
| 19:02.55 | GNU\colossus | even after reverting everything in terms of module blacklist and module options to the Debian defaults |
| 19:03.08 | GNU\colossus | heck, even when booting another (live) distro on the same machine |
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| 19:04.21 | deepblue | how to extract rar files? |
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| 19:05.16 | jhutchins | GNU\colossus: Did you, perhaps, shut it off? Most laptops have that ability. |
| 19:05.35 | GNU\colossus | jhutchins, I already tried that of course ;) did not heal itself though. |
| 19:05.37 | jhutchins | GNU\colossus: Try logging in as a different user. Try booting to live media. |
| 19:05.46 | hmw_ | How about unrar, deepblue? |
| 19:05.51 | GNU\colossus | already done that. no change - it just remains broken |
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| 19:06.03 | GNU\colossus | I begin suspecting some weird kind of UEFI/BIOS bug |
| 19:06.06 | deepblue | ackage unrar is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 19:06.06 | deepblue | This may mean that the package is missing |
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| 19:06.17 | jhutchins | GNU\colossus: If it's broken on different media, it's broken at the hardware/bios level. |
| 19:07.04 | hmw_ | Wheezy knows unrar and unrar-free |
| 19:07.19 | GNU\colossus | you probably want the former to unpack "new" RAR archives |
| 19:07.23 | GNU\colossus | unfortunately |
| 19:07.49 | deepblue | hmw_, Package unrar is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 19:07.49 | deepblue | This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or |
| 19:07.49 | deepblue | is only available from another source |
| 19:08.18 | GNU\colossus | you need the non-free repo enabled for that package to be installable |
| 19:08.40 | hmw_ | unrar is from non-free |
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| 19:09.11 | deepblue | ok,thanx |
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| 19:14.21 | GNU\colossus | HA! |
| 19:14.36 | GNU\colossus | I opened the case and removed the (non-removable...) battery for a short while |
| 19:14.39 | GNU\colossus | that did the trick |
| 19:14.44 | GNU\colossus | what a piece of CRAP |
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| 19:14.52 | GNU\colossus | I hate all this modern firmware shebang |
| 19:15.00 | GNU\colossus | just let it die and give me coreboot, please |
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| 19:20.33 | Gforce | Hi,when I try to run teeworld,it can't run.I get this:[5432eb47][gfx]: unable to set video mode: Couldn't find matching GLX visual |
| 19:20.34 | Gforce | [5432eb47][gfx]: out of ideas. failed to init graphics |
| 19:20.54 | lufix | Hello. I'm on Wheezy and suddenly when running apt-get update I get this message: |
| 19:20.56 | lufix | W: GPG error: http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 8B48AD6246925553 Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (7.0/wheezy) <ftpmaster@debian.org> |
| 19:21.12 | lufix | It repeats a bunch of times fir different debian and non-debian sources |
| 19:21.31 | Gforce | Can it be because of using nouveau? |
| 19:21.48 | Gforce | lufix:Just try another mirror. |
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| 19:22.40 | lufix | Gforce: But it also warns on virtualbox, dropbox and mongodb sources |
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| 19:24.09 | Gforce | lufix:I had the same problem,changing mirrors helped.I tryed 4 or five diffrent mirrors.;) |
| 19:24.40 | lufix | Gforce: Thanks, I'll try |
| 19:26.00 | Gforce | Any one any has any idea on my problem? |
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| 19:32.15 | berzerka | Gforce: do other opengl applications run for you? try glxgears for instance. |
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| 19:32.37 | Gforce | berzerka:Like what? |
| 19:32.47 | berzerka | Gforce: what? |
| 19:33.01 | Gforce | berzerka: Can you name a app? |
| 19:33.13 | likecolacola | nosklo, oh, i had to reach home to realize that dpkg was opening query on me with valuable info!, thanks!!!!! |
| 19:33.20 | berzerka | Gforce: like glxgears for instance? |
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| 19:33.51 | Gforce | berzerka:I get this:@debian:~$ glxgears |
| 19:33.52 | Gforce | Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". |
| 19:33.52 | Gforce | Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual |
| 19:34.26 | berzerka | Gforce: so you have a problem with your opengl installation in general, not related to teeworld or SDL |
| 19:34.41 | berzerka | Gforce: try glxinfo |
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| 19:35.00 | Gforce | berzerka:name of display: :0.0 |
| 19:35.01 | Gforce | Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0". |
| 19:35.01 | Gforce | Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig |
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| 19:35.06 | berzerka | :/ |
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| 19:39.02 | Gforce | berzerka:Any idea? |
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| 19:39.34 | berzerka | Gforce: please don't just paste into the channel, use a pastebin, e.g. paste.debian.net instead. |
| 19:40.08 | berzerka | Gforce: are you sure you are using the nouveau driver? then see if mesa gl is installed. |
| 19:40.28 | Gforce | berzerka: http://paste.debian.net/124886/ |
| 19:41.06 | berzerka | Gforce: is libgl1-mesa-glx installed? |
| 19:41.13 | Gforce | berzerka:Is it exacly mesa gl? |
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| 19:41.23 | berzerka | Gforce: what? |
| 19:41.39 | berzerka | ah no see package name above |
| 19:41.47 | Gforce | berzerka: Nothing.Yes it's installed. |
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| 19:42.39 | berzerka | Gforce: did you have the proprietary nvidia driver installed at some point in time? |
| 19:43.07 | Gforce | yesterday I tryed to install the nvidia driver.but after that it couldn't run x.so I just changed the config file to use nouveau. |
| 19:43.45 | Devil_Kin | hey folks, quick question. Debian jessie on an asus netbook. Since a few weeks (haven't had time to really dig into it) i've had issues with the device waking up immediately after suspend, when triggering it via buttons (or lid) |
| 19:43.46 | berzerka | Gforce: do a apt-get install --reinstall xserver-xorg-core libgl1-mesa-glx |
| 19:43.49 | Devil_Kin | pm-suspend works fine |
| 19:43.54 | Devil_Kin | any ideas where i could look? |
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| 19:44.37 | somiaj | Devil_Kin: did one of those updates install a new kernel? |
| 19:44.44 | Gforce | berzerka:Do I need a reboot or s.th after that? |
| 19:44.55 | berzerka | Gforce: restart X |
| 19:44.56 | jhutchins | Devil_Kin: You might find more people who know about this in #debian-next on oftc.net |
| 19:44.58 | Devil_Kin | somiaj: i believe it started after upgrading to the current jessie kernel |
| 19:45.29 | Gforce | berzerka:as root? |
| 19:45.44 | berzerka | Gforce: restart the X server. |
| 19:45.48 | somiaj | Devil_Kin: boot up off the old kernel, sometimes that is the culprit. |
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| 19:46.09 | berzerka | Gforce: if you use a graphical login, logging out and back into your desktop should suffice. |
| 19:46.11 | somiaj | Devil_Kin: could also be just finiky hardware. I had a laptop that I had to try multiple times to get it to go to sleep |
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| 19:46.42 | Gforce | berzerka: Allright.I'll just try that. |
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| 19:48.53 | berzerka | ok i have one package from wheezy-backports installed. i want to switch back to the wheezy version. apt-get -t wheezy install --reinstall wants to install the bpo version every time. how do i switch back to the wheezy package? (other than removing the wheezy-backports repository altogether from sources.list..) |
| 19:49.00 | Gforce | berzerka:Still get the same error. |
| 19:49.03 | Janusz1 | Hi. I have problem with apt-get update, tried 2 servers for packages, but both have hash sum mismatch in apt-get update http://pastebin.com/uXxHBHwe |
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| 19:49.13 | Janusz1 | is it problem with servers or local problem? |
| 19:49.20 | Devil_Kin | somiaj: well, then it would be an issue all the time, not just when using buttons to suspend |
| 19:49.24 | berzerka | Gforce: to be sure to restart the x server, kill it with ctrl-alt-backspace |
| 19:49.57 | Gforce | berzerka:It doesn't do any thing! |
| 19:50.29 | berzerka | Gforce: hm too bad. maybe as root /etc/init.d/gdm restart |
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| 19:50.47 | somiaj | Devil_Kin: again if it worked in the past but didn't, boot up off the old kernel and verify it was a kernel issue. Then look for or submit a bug. |
| 19:50.49 | berzerka | Gforce: i don't use debian on the desktop at the moment, but i'm sure someone here can tell you how to restart X |
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| 19:51.43 | franknight3 | anyone seen my garden weasel? |
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| 19:55.06 | DammitJim | how do I change my dns servers if I am using NetworkManager? |
| 19:55.12 | Gforce | berzerka:Still the same error. |
| 19:55.23 | DammitJim | at least thats's what /etc/resolv.conf says: #Generated by NetworkManager |
| 19:55.24 | DammitJim | and it's empty |
| 19:55.49 | DammitJim | I tried editing /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/Wired\ connection\ 1 |
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| 19:55.58 | DammitJim | but for my life when I restart nm-tool it doesn't stick |
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| 19:57.53 | Gforce | berzerka:maybe fixing nvidia driver can help? |
| 19:58.13 | berzerka | Gforce: well depends on which one you want to use.... |
| 19:58.20 | berzerka | Gforce: is this an optimus laptop? |
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| 19:58.30 | Gforce | berzerka:No. |
| 19:59.29 | berzerka | Gforce: Gforce can you pastebin lspci output? |
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| 20:01.08 | Gforce | berzerka:http://paste.debian.net/124888/ |
| 20:01.42 | Gforce | berzerka:I tryed installing it using this: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Debian_7_.22Wheezy.22 |
| 20:01.55 | jhutchins | DammitJim: Where do you get dhcp from? |
| 20:02.03 | DammitJim | this is static config |
| 20:02.11 | DammitJim | oh ok, I need to restart /etc/init.d/network-manager |
| 20:02.13 | DammitJim | not do nm-tool |
| 20:02.29 | jhutchins | DammitJim: Then why are you running network-manager? |
| 20:02.36 | jhutchins | !interfaces |
| 20:02.36 | dpkg | Your network configuration is in the file /etc/network/interfaces ; "man 5 interfaces" for documentation, "zless /usr/share/doc/ifupdown/examples/network-interfaces.gz" for example configurations. Start and stop your networking with ifup -a and ifdown -a respectively. http://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration . See also <dhcp client>, <resolv.conf>, <static route>. |
| 20:02.48 | DammitJim | jhutchins, this was a default install |
| 20:02.54 | DammitJim | and there is nothing on /etc/network/interfaces |
| 20:02.58 | DammitJim | it's soooo strange! |
| 20:03.06 | Devil_Kin | somiaj: problamtic since i dont' have any idea anymore which kernel was on there :p |
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| 20:03.47 | jhutchins | DammitJim: It would only be there if you put it there. I would delete network-manager if you don't need to actively manage networks, and configure everything in interfaces, and see what the correct way to override resolvconf (the program) is. |
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| 20:05.38 | ZenWalker | hi |
| 20:05.55 | ZenWalker | I can not login on X using, lightdm or slim, can anybody help me? |
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| 20:06.00 | Gforce | berzerka:Can this be the problem?::) http://paste.debian.net/124889/ |
| 20:06.19 | ZenWalker | Oct 6 21:56:22 debian lightdm: pam_ck_connector(lightdm:session): nox11 mode, ignoring PAM_TTY :0 |
| 20:06.27 | ZenWalker | on the /var/log/auth.log |
| 20:06.38 | berzerka | Gforce: no should be fine |
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| 20:07.40 | jhutchins | ZenWalker: What did you try to do? How did you try to do it? What did you expect to happen? What happened instead? |
| 20:07.47 | Gforce | berzerka:Any idea on how to use Nvidia official driver? |
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| 20:08.25 | ZenWalker | jhutchins: the login in lightdm fails with correct passwd |
| 20:08.29 | berzerka | Gforce: yes, but i think you want to use nouveau now. |
| 20:08.41 | berzerka | Gforce: does dpkg -l | grep nvidia show anything? |
| 20:08.43 | Gforce | berzerka:No.:) |
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| 20:09.12 | berzerka | Gforce: so why do you take my time fixing nouveau when you actually want to use proprietary? |
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| 20:09.36 | Gforce | berzerka:I had to.;). http://paste.debian.net/124891/ |
| 20:09.46 | berzerka | Gforce: i do not consider that funny. |
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| 20:10.08 | berzerka | so there's your problem |
| 20:10.38 | Gforce | berzerka:Yes.I just had to do something emergency.so just changed the configs to use nouveau. |
| 20:10.55 | berzerka | Gforce: so what now? nouveau or nvidia? |
| 20:11.11 | Gforce | berzerka:Now,NVIDIA |
| 20:11.13 | berzerka | ... |
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| 20:11.37 | berzerka | Gforce: so then please state the problem you had when following the instructions you posted. |
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| 20:12.56 | Gforce | berzerka:after that I rebooted.but the gdm didn't start auto.I tryed startx but X couldn't run.(Can't remember the error.) |
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| 20:13.39 | Gforce | berzerka:nvidia-xconfig 304.48-1.but others ver are 319.no problem with that? |
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| 20:13.58 | berzerka | Gforce: so then please change to nvidia again, if it fails to start send content of Xorg.0.log |
| 20:14.05 | berzerka | Gforce: i think not |
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| 20:14.23 | Gforce | berzerka:where can I exacly find Xorg.0.log? |
| 20:14.31 | berzerka | Gforce: /var/log |
| 20:14.57 | Gforce | berzerka:rebooting. |
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| 20:16.11 | jjanvier | hey, I'd like to test a tilling window manager |
| 20:16.22 | jjanvier | I'm looking for something quite simple to configure |
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| 20:16.31 | jjanvier | any advice ? |
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| 20:17.26 | teraflops | i3 has nice defaults jjanvier |
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| 20:18.03 | rww | i'd second i3 |
| 20:18.10 | teraflops | so in 15 minutes youre on a functionall tilling environment jjanvier |
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| 20:18.15 | zerick | Do exist any book about Debian packaging ? |
| 20:19.03 | jjanvier | thanks teraflops and rww, I'll test that ! |
| 20:19.21 | teraflops | yw jjanvier |
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| 20:23.18 | Gforce | berzerka:Here it is: http://paste.debian.net/124894/ |
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| 20:24.31 | berzerka | Gforce: send dmesg output |
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| 20:25.03 | Gforce | berzerka:I'm now using nouveau.no problem? |
| 20:25.29 | berzerka | Gforce: oh.. well yes that's a problem |
| 20:25.46 | berzerka | Gforce: you would have to redirect dmesg to a file just when loading nvidia failed :/ |
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| 20:26.26 | Gforce | berzerka:Ok.but it's realy long you know.maybe we can use tail right? |
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| 20:27.10 | Gforce | berzerka: is dmesg | tail -n 150 good? |
| 20:27.14 | berzerka | Gforce: install pastebinit and do 'dmesg | pastebinit' |
| 20:27.21 | berzerka | Gforce: yes should be fine as well |
| 20:27.49 | Gforce | berzerka:Ok.reconfig again.:( |
| 20:28.00 | Gforce | reconfiging!* |
| 20:28.46 | zerick | Do exist any book about Debian packaging ? |
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| 20:28.57 | abrotman | zerick: seems like a question you'd ask Amazon |
| 20:29.07 | berzerka | zerick: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ |
| 20:29.24 | berzerka | not really a book, true... |
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| 20:31.18 | Janusz1 | I tried 10 servers in source.list and always getting Hash sum mismatch when doing apt-get update, anyone know what can cause this? |
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| 20:31.42 | Gforce | berzerka:http://paste.debian.net/124895/ |
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| 20:33.14 | Gforce | berzerkaGuess I should install 304 version.Right? |
| 20:33.15 | berzerka | Gforce: so there you go. did you read it? |
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| 20:33.22 | berzerka | Gforce: yes you should :) |
| 20:33.32 | franknight3 | thinks you all need hair club for men! |
| 20:33.43 | Gforce | berzerka:Thank you.:) |
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| 20:33.55 | berzerka | Gforce: tell me if it worked out, will you? |
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| 20:34.11 | Gforce | berzerka:Sure. |
| 20:34.38 | jhutchins | Janusz1: You should probably have only one server for each repository in sources.list. |
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| 20:34.41 | jhutchins | !paste |
| 20:34.42 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 20:34.50 | jhutchins | Janusz1: Pastebin your list for suggestions. |
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| 20:36.14 | Janusz1 | jhutchins: http://pastebin.com/B35qi2hy |
| 20:36.20 | Gforce | berzerka:Should I remove nvidia drivers first?and there is one more problem.What packages should I exacly reinstall? |
| 20:37.13 | berzerka | Gforce: just installing nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver should take care of everything i suppose |
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| 20:39.30 | Janusz1 | jhutchins: and its i386 |
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| 20:55.32 | Gforce | berzerka:I can no longer use X.http://paste.debian.net/124898/ http://paste.debian.net/124899/ |
| 20:56.19 | berzerka | Gforce: did you reboot? |
| 20:57.08 | Gforce | berzerka: Yes.seems it stil uses 319Right?.Now I can't even use X wiht nouveau. |
| 20:57.14 | Gforce | with* |
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| 20:57.33 | berzerka | Gforce: please send dpkg -l | grep nvidia |
| 20:58.35 | Gforce | berzerka: Oh man!I shouuld now reboot to debian.and then reboot here again.:((.Is there any way to connect here through CLI? |
| 20:59.08 | jolt | Gforce: Here? you can use irssi or any other irc-client |
| 20:59.23 | Gforce | jolt: Thanks. |
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| 21:07.35 | Gforce | berzerka:http://paste.debian.net/124902/ |
| 21:08.03 | Gforce | jolt: How can I join a chanale using irssi? |
| 21:08.12 | berzerka | with /join |
| 21:08.31 | babilen | dpkg: tell Gforce -about irc tutorial |
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| 21:09.22 | Gforce | babilen:These robots are awsome! |
| 21:09.32 | babilen | indeed :) |
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| 21:09.37 | babilen | dpkg: tell Gforce -about dpkgbot |
| 21:09.50 | fiola | It all went downhill after the preferred client for IRC was no longer telnet :P |
| 21:09.56 | Gforce | babilen:HaHa!:) |
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| 21:11.05 | berzerka | Gforce: ok. apt-get remove libgl1-nvidia-glx libnvidia-ml1 nvidia-alternative nvidia-driver nvidia-kernel-dkms nvidia-settings nvidia-vdpau-driver xserver-xorg-video-nvidia |
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| 21:11.14 | catpig | hi, i've added an interface to /etc/network/interfaces to use with vde for kvm, but it doesnt start on boot automatically. i am guessing i need to do something further than just adding those lines, but i can't find what, any pointers? |
| 21:11.28 | catpig | i can bring it manually with ifup kvm0 |
| 21:11.32 | catpig | *bring it up |
| 21:11.37 | berzerka | Gforce: then, to be safe apt-get install --reinstall nvidia-legacy-304xx-driver |
| 21:11.39 | Gforce | berzerka:You sure about that? |
| 21:11.44 | Gforce | oh |
| 21:11.46 | Gforce | Ok |
| 21:11.48 | berzerka | Gforce: ... |
| 21:12.04 | babilen | Gforce: Have fun :) |
| 21:12.06 | Gforce | berzerka:rebooting.Again:((. |
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| 21:13.36 | catpig | this is the interfaces file: http://pastebin.com/7UGzEjN5 |
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| 21:18.58 | catpig | brb gonna try rc.local |
| 21:19.26 | franknight3 | \\//\\//hatever! |
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| 21:25.05 | strio_ | Hello |
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| 21:25.28 | strio_ | Where is this module on debian wheezy? or how to install it? Email::Reply perl thank you |
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| 21:26.04 | Gforce | berzerka:It worked.\M/ |
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| 21:26.17 | berzerka | Gforce: :) your game/application runs as well? |
| 21:26.54 | Gforce | but I also had to do a nvidia-xconfig first. |
| 21:27.04 | Gforce | berzerka:Yes.it works. |
| 21:27.09 | Gforce | Thank you.:) |
| 21:27.32 | berzerka | Gforce: so lesson learned: always check the logs when you have errors. that big fat warning about the legacy driver could have saved you (and me) a lot of time. now have fun :) |
| 21:28.22 | Gforce | berzerka:Yeah.sure.thanks.:) |
| 21:28.28 | berzerka | Gforce: you're welcome. |
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| 21:29.04 | Gforce | when I run teeworlds.it messes up the resolotion.(even when I close it it's steill...).any Idea how to fix this? |
| 21:29.14 | Gforce | still* |
| 21:29.30 | berzerka | Gforce: man xrandr |
| 21:29.36 | ompaul | strio_: https://wiki.debian.org/PerlFAQ |
| 21:30.05 | Gforce | berzerka:Nice!Thanks again. |
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| 21:32.48 | berzerka | so who's into apt pinning and stuff? i installed a package with -t wheezy-backports now i want to switch back the the wheezy version. apt-get installing always says 'is already up-to-date'. |
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| 21:33.19 | babilen | berzerka: Either remove and reinstall it or force the version with PKG/wheezy |
| 21:34.00 | berzerka | babilen: duh, didn't know that syntax. tried with -t wheezy all the time. thanks! |
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| 21:34.13 | babilen | (you probably want to use aptitude for the latter so that it has a chance to sort out dependencies -- also note that downgrades are *not* supported) |
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| 21:34.46 | berzerka | yeah i know, it's just about that single package (initramfs-tools) since i installed a backported kernel and want to switch back :) |
| 21:35.15 | berzerka | babilen: i thought apt-get and aptitude use the same backend for dep resolution nowadays? |
| 21:35.22 | babilen | I would recommend to purge it and autoremove dependencies before you reinstall the wheezy version from scratch |
| 21:36.08 | babilen | berzerka: They use the same library for talking to the package library, but use their own dependency resolution mechanisms (apt-get can also use a number of external solvers like packup) |
| 21:36.15 | berzerka | i checked with apt-show-versions, it really is the only package from backports. |
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| 21:36.21 | babilen | *package database |
| 21:36.31 | berzerka | babilen: i see, thank you sir. |
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| 21:36.46 | babilen | berzerka: Okay, had no idea what you had installed there and rather try to give advice that is a little too correct ;) |
| 21:36.54 | berzerka | of course :) |
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| 21:51.41 | franknight3 | ;) |
| 21:51.48 | ksalman | i want to use zfsutils but libguestfs0 has a dependancy on zfs-fuse for whatever reason. I downloaded the source and removed the dependency but how to i make sure libguestfs0 does not get overwritten from upstream instead of the custom one I have now? |
| 21:52.06 | ksalman | can i lock it somehome? |
| 21:52.10 | ksalman | somehow |
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| 21:52.31 | |xk05| | hi, i installed debian testing iso #1 to my hard drive, but there was no included kernel. im now in a live session from a dvd. is there an easy way to install a kernel from here? |
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| 22:00.20 | jelly-home | franknight3: your host has been quieted for generating random nonsense. If there's a human behind instead of a bot, remember this is a tech support channel and try to be either on topic or quiet, and disable your nonsense generator scripts while in here. Thanks. |
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| 22:10.37 | nikio_ | hey guys |
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| 22:11.02 | nikio_ | the folder contents could not be displayed |
| 22:11.06 | nikio_ | you do not have permission |
| 22:11.09 | nikio_ | come on guys : / |
| 22:11.12 | nikio_ | its my pc!! |
| 22:12.28 | mtn | nikio_: fix your permissions? |
| 22:12.36 | nikio_ | im new to this |
| 22:12.37 | nikio_ | how |
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| 22:14.23 | mtn | nikio_: which folder? did it work before? which version of debian? |
| 22:14.50 | nikio_ | i have to be member of vboxsf |
| 22:14.57 | nikio_ | virtual box shared folder mtn |
| 22:15.08 | nikio_ | any quick command |
| 22:15.11 | nikio_ | to make me member |
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| 22:15.47 | nikio_ | sudo adduser myuser vboxs |
| 22:15.51 | nikio_ | sudo adduser myuser vboxsf |
| 22:15.53 | nikio_ | : ] |
| 22:15.59 | mtn | nikio_: how about the other two questions? |
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| 22:16.39 | nikio_ | it didnt |
| 22:16.50 | nikio_ | and im not sure what version of debian |
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| 22:17.15 | mtn | nikio_: lsb_release -a in a terminal |
| 22:17.20 | nikio_ | mtn but i added me to that group |
| 22:17.25 | nikio_ | i have to restart i guess |
| 22:17.27 | nikio_ | i think it should work now |
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| 22:19.17 | nikio_ | it works mtn |
| 22:19.21 | nikio_ | thanks for the help :) |
| 22:19.26 | mtn | nikio_: good to hear |
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| 23:00.41 | moriar7y | herro |
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| 23:04.26 | asterismo | hi |
| 23:04.42 | asterismo | how do i check MTA service is on or off? |
| 23:04.59 | asterismo | PHP cannot send mail with mail() function and this is maybe the cause |
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| 23:10.03 | dondelelcaro | asterismo: do you have an MTA installed? |
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| 23:42.13 | saintgermain | Hello ! I'm on Wheezy (amd64) and would like to connect my Android phone through MTP. So I would like to backport gvfs-backends from Jessie. Given the many dependencies of gvfs-backends, do you think it is a good idea ? |
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| 23:44.50 | fiola | Is it grub or the kernel that puts as many penguins as there are cores in the top-left of screen during boot? |
| 23:45.35 | peterrooney | fiola: kernel. |
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| 23:46.19 | fiola | peterrooney: Cheers, looking for that |
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| 23:51.20 | acu | some incredible simple question - how can I make the background in Jessie GNOME complete black - it seem that there are no more custom pictures |
| 23:51.26 | acu | custom colors |
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| 23:52.58 | aoly | does anybody uses godaddy.com or namecheap ? |
| 23:53.15 | mtn | nobody does |
| 23:53.18 | aoly | lol |
| 23:53.36 | acu | aoly: thats not a question, what is your question ? |
| 23:54.03 | acu | there are many people using it, so what ? |
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| 23:55.27 | aoly | i purchased a domain name for two years ... but decided to delete it after six month of use |
| 23:55.52 | btcquant | Hi! Looking to implement two-factor authentication. Considering Google's auth or Authy. Any opinions?? |
| 23:55.53 | aoly | i was wondering if i'm still registered to it though i have deleted it |
| 23:55.54 | mtn | acu: with gnome 3 I think you need to find/create a black jpg and then you could change your background to that picture |
| 23:56.19 | mtn | aoly: why wouldn't you ask them? |
| 23:56.29 | acu | mtn: thanks, why did I not think of that ? I thought there is a custom color option - but that is gone it seem :) |
| 23:56.41 | mtn | acu: I think it is long gone |
| 23:56.45 | aoly | i could but since i'm already on irc why not ask here first |
| 23:57.04 | mtn | aoly: probably because we have no idea what you or godaddy have done |
| 23:57.22 | mtn | aoly: and it is off topic here, too ;) |
| 23:57.27 | aoly | mtn, what do you mean have done ? |
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| 23:57.41 | mtn | aoly: just what it means |
| 23:58.03 | aoly | mtn well.. next time such question arises just cut it short by telling the person it's off topic |
| 23:58.04 | jpleau | also, we are not godaddy nor namecheap customer support, they are paid to answer such questions :o |
| 23:58.12 | acu | aoly: this is off-topic discusion :) it is not about debian, you have to log into your godaddy |
| 23:58.14 | mtn | aoly: ok. you are off topic |
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