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| 00:19.25 | DrMrHorse | im using testing/jessie. can i ask questions here? |
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| 00:36.02 | asterismo | hi people |
| 00:36.15 | asterismo | what is the mail server that php function mail() uses? |
| 00:36.19 | asterismo | MTA? |
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| 00:38.14 | nkuttler | asterismo: whatever you have installed |
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| 00:38.16 | themill | yes, PHP's mail() requires a local MTA to be functional. By default, you'd have exim4 installed |
| 00:38.37 | asterismo | themill: how do i launch mta? |
| 00:38.42 | abrotman | asterismo: you already went through this a few hours ago |
| 00:38.52 | asterismo | like... /etc/init.d...? |
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| 00:39.09 | asterismo | yes abrotman, but nobody answered so i'm trying again.... |
| 00:39.45 | themill | asterismo: it would already be running |
| 00:41.15 | asterismo | could it be sslh multiplexer that is screwing things up? php cannot send a mail through the mail() command |
| 00:41.44 | asterismo | i cannot figure it out |
| 00:42.41 | abrotman | asterismo: yes, someone answered you |
| 00:42.51 | abrotman | asterismo: which version of linux are you using? |
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| 00:43.16 | asterismo | debian stable |
| 00:43.30 | asterismo | abrotman: oh, i missed the answer i'm sorry |
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| 00:44.44 | asterismo | installing mta? |
| 00:45.48 | themill | asterismo: what does «dpkg -S $(readlink -f /usr/sbin/sendmail)» say? |
| 00:46.20 | asterismo | postfix: /usr/sbin/sendmail |
| 00:46.40 | asterismo | postfix then |
| 00:46.43 | asterismo | ;) |
| 00:46.51 | themill | so you'd better configure postfix |
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| 01:02.23 | cferry | hello |
| 01:02.26 | cferry | I need help |
| 01:02.43 | liveAndLetDie | Go on cferry. |
| 01:03.06 | dvs | !next |
| 01:03.06 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
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| 01:06.00 | liveAndLetDie | Indeed. Well. I'm having a spot of trouble with make-kpkg. Fails to compile linux 2.6.39. I feel like I'm missing some typedefs or something, not sure. Anyone mind taking a look? http://pastie.org/9626481 http://pastie.org/private/k05vc8tony9yiosz3s7org |
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| 01:06.31 | liveAndLetDie | I pulled the source from the GitHub, so its not an official Debian kernel. That may also be an issue.... |
| 01:08.13 | btcquant | Hi! Looking to implement two-factor authentication. Considering Google's auth or Authy. Any opinions?? |
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| 01:32.31 | HFSPLUS | is debian a stripped down version of fedora? |
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| 01:32.56 | liveAndLetDie | Not really.... |
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| 01:33.24 | liveAndLetDie | You may be thinking of CentOS. Which isn't really that either, but its closer. |
| 01:33.52 | JesseW | HFSPLUS: No. Rather throughly, no. |
| 01:34.10 | HFSPLUS | is debian a stripped down version of mac os x? |
| 01:35.14 | liveAndLetDie | calls troll |
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| 01:35.33 | JesseW | liveAndLetDie: yep, seems like. |
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| 01:36.02 | abrotman | stop feeding it |
| 01:36.06 | liveAndLetDie | Everyone knows that Debian is a stripped down version of Ubuntu anyway. |
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| 01:36.22 | _2_masiel | hola |
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| 03:01.21 | jhutchins | liveAndLetDie: So you've been into Linux for what, two weeks now? |
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| 03:01.48 | liveAndLetDie | wut |
| 03:01.59 | liveAndLetDie | jhutchins: huh? |
| 03:02.13 | abrotman | was thinking the same thing about jhutchins |
| 03:02.18 | jhutchins | You have not studied the tree, clearly. |
| 03:02.24 | liveAndLetDie | jhutchins: It was a joke. |
| 03:02.39 | jhutchins | Yes, but not a well informed one. |
| 03:02.46 | liveAndLetDie | -_____________________- |
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| 03:04.23 | jhutchins | It's like not being a Christian in a Christian culture. You have to know your theology better than the average plebian just to survive. |
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| 03:04.50 | abrotman | wonders what the fuck jhutchins is smoking |
| 03:05.27 | jhutchins | liveAndLetDie: Get the etomology right. |
| 03:05.33 | abrotman | jhutchins: drop it |
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| 03:13.34 | czn | anyone know where prebuild iptables firewalls can be ju st downloaded for debian? |
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| 03:16.08 | phy1729 | czn: every environment is different so I wouldn't suggest that |
| 03:16.13 | somiaj | czn: the actual firewall you need is dependent on your situation. Why do you need a firewall on your debian machine in the first place, you shouldn't have anythig listening on ports that you don't want. |
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| 03:17.48 | MarvelDigital | i'm trying to get kvpnc to work but it keeps crashing while trying to create an openvnc profile via import settings: please find the pastebin: http://paste.debian.net/124935/ i'm using 7.6 any suggestions on how to fix? |
| 03:18.32 | phy1729 | somiaj: do you know everything in sudo netstat -nap | grep LISTEN ? |
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| 03:22.12 | Blacklite | hey, i'm having trouble trying to reset my dns cache. no matter what i do, i get an outdated result |
| 03:22.35 | somiaj | phy1729: oh my machine I reconize everyting listening on a public ip. |
| 03:22.44 | Blacklite | if i do dig <domain> +trace, then i get the updated DNS entries (specifically MX records), but without +trace it always returns the old records |
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| 03:22.49 | phy1729 | somiaj: so have you turned off rpcbind ? |
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| 03:22.56 | Blacklite | i've tried service nscd restart and stop/start etc but no luck |
| 03:23.07 | Blacklite | also tried nscd --invalidate=hosts |
| 03:23.38 | somiaj | phy1729: I don't even have that package installed |
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| 03:24.27 | somiaj | Blacklite: are you sure it is your cache and not your nameserver you are using? |
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| 03:24.51 | Blacklite | ;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1) |
| 03:24.52 | phy1729 | I don't think dig uses the cache or hosts file just the server |
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| 03:25.08 | Blacklite | i am aware of that, i am simply using dig to find the DNS records |
| 03:25.19 | Blacklite | something else is caching them somewhere and i don't know what |
| 03:25.32 | Blacklite | i have another server on the same ISP using the same nameservers which has the new records |
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| 03:26.10 | Blacklite | and i didn't actually have nscd installed to begin with - i installed it because most of the threads i found on google said you needed to restart it |
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| 03:49.27 | TTomiK | Hi! Some help needed with installation of Debian 7.6 on VMware 5.5 (running on HP Blade Gen8). Immediately turning the virtual machine on and selecting the installation image the screen goes "scrabbled" and no startup menu is shown |
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| 03:51.53 | TTomiK | Here's a screen shot of how the "installation method" (graphic etc) screen looks like: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ut86johiui1d9b2/debian_7.6_on_vmware.png?dl=0 |
| 03:52.18 | TTomiK | I have tried with netinst- and the whole DVD-image |
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| 03:54.30 | liveAndLetDie | ...huh. Weird. What method did you use to create the VM? |
| 03:55.02 | TTomiK | I have not created the VM, but what do you mean by method ? |
| 03:55.13 | TTomiK | as far as I know it's been installed from HP's own image |
| 03:55.33 | TTomiK | the vmware I mean |
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| 03:55.53 | TTomiK | hmm.. sorry, I have created the VM, but not installed the vmware :) |
| 03:56.11 | liveAndLetDie | Ah. I've only ever used VMPlayer, and theres a menu to build the VM from an iso. |
| 03:56.15 | TTomiK | ( brains would like to sleep :D ) |
| 03:56.47 | TTomiK | I'm using vsphere, but basically you just select the image from which to boot from |
| 03:57.39 | TTomiK | I've installed debian many many times from this same ISO-image |
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| 03:59.01 | TTomiK | wow... what's even more weird, Suse linux starts right up with its installation process :O |
| 03:59.20 | TTomiK | don't want to use it, but had to test if it starts up |
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| 04:01.46 | liveAndLetDie | Huh, strange. |
| 04:01.55 | neilthereildeil | hey guys. does anyone know how to troubleshoot network bridging here? |
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| 04:02.30 | TTomiK | liveAndLetDie: yep, it is |
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| 04:14.45 | three_legs | hello |
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| 04:17.14 | xen_roger | neilthereildeil: what exactly is the problem ? |
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| 04:18.53 | neilthereildeil | xen_roger: do u have xen network bridging working on debian? |
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| 04:21.16 | MarvelDigital | does anyone know how to fix a VBOX_E_FILE_ERROR (0x80BB0004) with virtualbox? |
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| 04:32.51 | fiola | Would appreciate help in understanding this error report on rebuilding fglrx-modules-dkms --> http://paste.debian.net/124937/ |
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| 04:36.23 | Disconsented | Okay so I am using SLIM instead of KDE's default login manager |
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| 04:37.05 | Disconsented | and I am trying to theme it so I added custom_theme to the /usr/slim.conf file |
| 04:37.41 | Disconsented | with the name of my theme which is in the same directory as the other default themes (usr/share/slim/themes/) however the default is being displayed |
| 04:37.57 | Disconsented | So does anyone know of documentation of how to do that? |
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| 04:47.59 | three_legs | i have a package name that has been taken in unstable and i wanted to change the package name but i don't want to have to reinstall the package on all the units i have created is there any way i can change the name and have all the old units pull from the new name when upgrading ? |
| 04:48.11 | three_legs | they are using unatended-updates |
| 04:49.36 | dondelelcaro | three_legs: make a transition package |
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| 04:50.23 | dondelelcaro | three_legs: or alternatively, if you have a dependency relationship from other packages which are installed to that package, change the name, and have it Conflicts:/Replaces: as appropriate |
| 04:52.14 | three_legs | dondelelcaro: thank you |
| 04:53.48 | dondelelcaro | three_legs: no problem. If this is a custom package, in the future you might want to use names like "three_legs.org-foopkg" or similar; Debian will never have packages with that name |
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| 05:17.19 | poiu | xen_roger: u have network bridge working with Xen? |
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| 05:18.38 | xen_roger | poiu: yes sir |
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| 05:22.02 | LinusTourvaldsII | are the same packages for ubuntu available for debian? |
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| 05:22.33 | xen_roger | yes and no |
| 05:22.45 | LinusTourvaldsII | like for example ubuntu restricted extras? |
| 05:22.58 | poiu | xen_roger: im trynna get my wireless wlan0 iface to bridgeto xenbr0 |
| 05:23.01 | poiu | any idea how? |
| 05:23.40 | LinusTourvaldsII | i noticed debian is very fast so if i can make it function properly it might be fun |
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| 05:54.39 | xen_roger | poiu: did you try something already or is it a basic question? |
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| 05:58.19 | xen_roger | poiu: the question is why you would bridge your wifi? an who is made the connection? dom0 or domU, because bridging the wifi is a bit tricky ... |
| 05:58.48 | poiu | xen_roger: no, ive already tried some stuff |
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| 05:59.11 | poiu | i want dom0 to share connection with domU machines |
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| 05:59.51 | xen_roger | are you going to provide services in the domU you need to access from outside your box? |
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| 06:00.26 | poiu | yea |
| 06:00.42 | poiu | i want these VMs to be accesible from the network |
| 06:00.53 | poiu | i have a WPA-2 encrypted AP |
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| 06:02.19 | xen_roger | ok, the easy way (maybe) would be creating a dummy-bridge with no physical interface an masquerade outgoing traffic on wifi nic an dnat services to the domU |
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| 06:03.33 | poiu | why would i have a nat if i want a bridged connection? |
| 06:04.18 | xen_roger | ok ... did you read this? http://wiki.xen.org/wiki/Xen_in_WiFi_networks |
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| 06:05.31 | poiu | hmm i havent seen that |
| 06:05.38 | poiu | it seems like this is not supported? |
| 06:05.44 | poiu | is it a bug or somehting? |
| 06:06.30 | xen_roger | no, not a bug! did you read the problem section ? |
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| 06:07.41 | poiu | yep just got there |
| 06:07.51 | poiu | i wonder how windows handles all of this seamlessly |
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| 06:08.59 | poiu | xen_roger: the problem for me is before the routing issue posed here |
| 06:09.05 | poiu | i cannot even get an IP for xenbr0 |
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| 06:13.01 | xen_roger | xenbr0 is a bridge with your wifi ? |
| 06:13.07 | poiu | xen_roger: would it be easier to set this up if i didnt need to have network connection in my VMs, but connection from Dom0->DomU? |
| 06:13.14 | poiu | xen_roger: yea |
| 06:14.21 | xen_roger | the best and easiest would be using wired interface ;) |
| 06:14.44 | xen_roger | but you could do what I said befor ... using nat an routing on dom0 |
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| 06:15.19 | poiu | xen_roger: if i used nat, would i be able to talk Dom0->DomU? |
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| 06:18.11 | xen_roger | you could also communicate between dom0 and you domU without any nat ...just create a bridge assign an address and use the same bridge in you domU |
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| 06:19.24 | xen_roger | means -> brctl addbr br_foo -> ifconfig br_foo 10.10.10.1/28 -> use bridge in domU and give it 10.10.10.2/28 and here you go |
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| 06:20.39 | poiu | xen_roger: hmm nice |
| 06:20.42 | poiu | thats sounds simple |
| 06:21.08 | poiu | xen_roger: how would i create that bridge? |
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| 06:22.21 | xen_roger | as I told before ... "brctl addbr br_foo" |
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| 06:27.37 | coudy | jelly: hi, I have agaiin problem with server, It was reloaded at 07:00, and now at 08:27 I can't connect, with ps -ef is no cron job, so I think, problem is somewhere else, |
| 06:28.05 | coudy | jelly:, again, last line is /var/log/messages is alg: No test for authenc(hmac(sha1),cbc(des3_ede)) (authenc(hmac(sha1-ssse3),cbc(des3_ede-generic))) |
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| 06:31.26 | The-Compiler | is there something weird going on with the debian mirrors or is this my connection? I only get about 20 kB/s to both ftp.{ch,de}.debian.org and everything else works fine |
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| 06:34.24 | heurist | The-Compiler: try some other mirrors (maybe ftp.us.debian.org or http.debian.net), sometimes they are just slow or overloaded. |
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| 06:37.22 | poiu | xen_roger: ok that worked |
| 06:37.27 | poiu | wow that was easy |
| 06:37.33 | MarvelDigital | my virtualbox crashes trying to boot up win7. here's the logs, http://paste.debian.net/124941/ any body have any ideas why and how to fix? |
| 06:37.33 | poiu | what is this type of bridge called? |
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| 06:39.55 | naoie | i'am using debian unstable, and my computer just crashes sometimes; how can i debug that issue? |
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| 06:40.30 | SPepper | read your logs? |
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| 06:41.16 | heurist | naoie: run stable and see if your computer becomes more stable? but crashes are also often a sign of failing hardware. |
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| 06:41.52 | naoie | heurist: the computer is new and has not crashes yet under windows |
| 06:42.21 | SPepper | is systemd on unstable? Does it change how you view logs? |
| 06:42.23 | poiu | xen_roger: is this just called an internal bridge? |
| 06:42.29 | heurist | naoie: so try a version of linux that does not call itself "unstable" (: |
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| 06:43.06 | richac | i recommend linux mint |
| 06:43.17 | naoie | heurist: :) yes, i'll probably do that; was just curious to try and explore |
| 06:43.20 | naoie | SPepper: yes it is version 215-5+b1 |
| 06:43.44 | richac | oh i'm in the debian channel i'm sorry |
| 06:43.45 | naoie | for logs, i'm not sure which i need to read |
| 06:43.53 | richac | i'm going to try debian out |
| 06:44.08 | SPepper | kernel log, system log |
| 06:44.49 | heurist | naoie: "unstable" is definitely not for you until you know the basics. |
| 06:45.04 | naoie | heurist: it's also a way to learn the basics! |
| 06:45.15 | SPepper | it's good to learn what's making unstable crash |
| 06:45.15 | naoie | SPepper: syslog and kern.log have nothing since Sept 18 |
| 06:45.17 | richac | anyone have any experience compiling a kernel to install selinux? |
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| 06:46.06 | heurist | naoie: no, run something stable to learn, else you are just fighting confusions, ignorance, and things out of your control instead of learning. |
| 06:46.27 | richac | heurist: to be fair breaking things and fixing it is the best way to learn |
| 06:46.29 | xen_roger | poiu: yes so called internal bridge |
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| 06:46.38 | naoie | thanks for your opinion |
| 06:46.46 | heurist | richac: no need to compile the kernel, the debian kernels include selinux support. |
| 06:46.55 | richac | heurist: oh nice! |
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| 06:47.02 | richac | opensuse kernel doesn't i was trying it on |
| 06:47.04 | richac | haha |
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| 06:47.56 | naoie | SPepper: http://pastebin.com/cPkNLxXi and http://pastebin.com/CV1NeMdV for syslog and kern.log |
| 06:47.59 | richac | is there a debian that comes with KDE? |
| 06:48.11 | heurist | richac: debian is not very good a selinux though. you will have a bit of an uphill battle since not all the packages work out of the box with selinux. Centos is a good option if all you want is to play with selinux, it is on by default and works there. |
| 06:48.18 | SPepper | maybe kern.log |
| 06:48.41 | naoie | SPepper: this is the second paste |
| 06:48.45 | richac | heurist: hmm i was only going to use the default targeted policy |
| 06:48.46 | heurist | richac: there are debian install disk with KDE on them by default, else you can install any DE you want. |
| 06:48.54 | richac | ok cool |
| 06:49.15 | heurist | !tell richac -about kde |
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| 06:50.12 | heurist | richac: see the message the bot sent you. you can ask the bot about stuff it mentions in <angle brackets> by /msg dpkg help |
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| 06:50.42 | liveAndLetDie | !tell liveAndLetDie -about kde |
| 06:50.59 | heurist | !tell liveAndLetDie -about selftell |
| 06:51.04 | naoie | http://pastebin.com/26BH3Skw here is the list of my log files; looks like logging doesn't work for some files |
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| 06:51.17 | richac | tks |
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| 06:51.39 | liveAndLetDie | heurist: Just wanted to see what it did. :) |
| 06:51.50 | heurist | liveAndLetDie: no worries. |
| 06:51.58 | richac | what about grsecurity, do i have to compile kernel for that? |
| 06:52.32 | heurist | richac: I have not looked at grsec in a long time. you would need to google that. |
| 06:52.38 | coudy | HI, I have problem with VM debian stable, it freeze, and I can't start/stop any service, I can't login, even it does not react on reboot command |
| 06:52.41 | richac | ok |
| 06:52.50 | richac | gonna give it a shot |
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| 06:55.53 | naoie | i have enabled logging, we'll see for next crash :) |
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| 06:59.38 | The-Compiler | heurist: hmm, not much better, at 40 kB/s (with occassional bursts to 2 MB/s). I guess I'll just be patient then. :D |
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| 07:03.19 | SPepper | why do I have a 24k "faillog" that seems to be just 3 pages of empty lines? |
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| 07:04.09 | heurist | SPepper: faillog is not ascii, it is in some binary format. |
| 07:04.23 | SPepper | ok, ty |
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| 07:05.22 | SPepper | there's a manpage for a faillog command |
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| 07:06.31 | heurist | SPepper: there is a man page for most things. there is also man 5 faillog that tells you a bit about the file. |
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| 07:07.00 | SPepper | ty |
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| 07:10.14 | zxd | test |
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| 07:23.14 | nzoei | my computer crashed again, but this time i have the logs: http://pastebin.com/nv6fptPw (kern.log) http://pastebin.com/D4tSLQeT (syslog); i think the crash happens at 09:16:21 |
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| 07:23.33 | neeasade | evening all |
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| 07:24.12 | haba713 | hi! does anyone know what causes auto logout after some idle time? is it sshd, shell or something else? how can i disable auto logout? |
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| 07:25.45 | Stummi | There isn't any auto logout by default |
| 07:25.57 | Stummi | but maybe your sshd is configured to close a connection after some idle time |
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| 07:27.22 | captmeridian | Anyone having problems with sound? |
| 07:27.35 | haba713 | Stummi: we're running sshd with default settings and user logged automatically out after a while |
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| 07:37.06 | rockhamster | hey guys. after dist-upgrading on jessie yesterday, booting hangs for 60 seconds on "A start job is running for LSB: Raise network interfaces" (see http://i.imgur.com/Jv6fhCQ.jpg). anyone else experiencing this? know what the problem is? |
| 07:37.36 | jolt | haba713: which ssh client are they using? |
| 07:37.41 | heurist | rockhamster: questions about jessie are better addressed to #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
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| 07:38.23 | rockhamster | heurist: ait, thanks! |
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| 07:38.47 | cynicallemon | rockhamster: yes im seeing this in sid too |
| 07:38.47 | paul_grozav | how can I install the glances program under wheezy? |
| 07:39.22 | haba713 | jolt: openssh... our suse servers don't auto logout with same clients |
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| 07:42.44 | jolt | haba713: First, auto logout is something I have never heard of from debian, so it is probably the clients. I just googled a bit and found that it might have to do with putty if they use that. If not, then I assume it's either something configured in the shell on the server, or the firewall closing the connections due to no keepalives. |
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| 07:43.01 | Brain | hi, i just downloaded a new 7.6.0 netinstall image to reinstall my server, and i get this and am unable to do anything at all: |
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| 07:43.09 | Brain | Welcome to grub! Error "prefix" is not set |
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| 07:43.11 | Brain | and it just locks up |
| 07:43.15 | txomon|fon | hi, can someone tell me what is going on with chromium and flash? |
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| 07:43.23 | txomon|fon | it doesn't stop crashing |
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| 07:44.25 | bascht | txomon|fon: Chromium or Google Chrome? |
| 07:44.28 | heurist | Brain: booting from CD or USB? if USB, what command did you use to put the image in the device? |
| 07:44.49 | Brain | cd iso image via ipmi |
| 07:44.51 | xen_roger | txomon|fon: sometimes same on gentoo ... restart chromium and it works again ( google shipped flash on my side ) |
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| 07:45.13 | Brain | heurist: google says it might be uefi related, but i managed to install on this hardware ok about 2 years ago |
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| 07:47.41 | jarco_ | Hello, I was trying to patch our server for shellshock. After updating using apt)-get update and apt-get upgrade most vulnerabilities are gone . But thhsi one still works: bash -c "f() { x() { _;}; x() { _;} <<a; }" 2>/dev/null || echo vulnerable |
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| 07:47.54 | jarco_ | How can I fix this? |
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| 07:52.42 | Disconsented | I want to get root access to copy files around. How would I do this? |
| 07:52.53 | liveAndLetDie | Disconsented: su or sudo commands |
| 07:53.01 | Disconsented | In gui |
| 07:53.07 | xen_roger | gksu |
| 07:53.16 | liveAndLetDie | jarco_: Your POC confuses me; it seems like it echos "vulnerable" no matter what... |
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| 07:54.20 | liveAndLetDie | jarco_: Yeah thats not really attack the environment varialbe. Thats just defining a function the normal way. |
| 07:54.24 | liveAndLetDie | try this: |
| 07:54.45 | liveAndLetDie | export x="() { :;}; echo 'vulnerable'"; bash -c 'echo test'; |
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| 07:55.16 | jarco_ | liveAndLetDie, its the test for CVE-2014-6277 |
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| 07:56.38 | jarco_ | https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-6277 reports stable as vunerable to it ... |
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| 07:57.35 | heurist | jarco_: that says that is is fixed in wheezy security, which you should be using. |
| 07:58.09 | liveAndLetDie | jarco_: 6277 seems to result in a segfault. |
| 07:58.19 | haba713 | jolt: thanks for answering. we've used suse servers this far and haven't had any auto logout issues. now we've installed 3 debian servers with default settings and all of them log user automatically out after some idle time. i'll continue my investigations... |
| 07:58.22 | jarco_ | I am using 7.6. Is wheezy security another repo? |
| 07:58.26 | liveAndLetDie | maybe you're thinking export f=....? |
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| 07:58.48 | jarco_ | liveAndLetDie, yes it does. And it also outputs vunerable |
| 07:59.05 | jelly-home | jarco_: and it's very hard to abuse in real situations |
| 07:59.48 | heurist | !tell jarco_ -about wheezy security |
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| 08:00.45 | jelly-home | jarco_: which version of bash package do you have installed? |
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| 08:01.27 | jarco_ | GNU bash, version 4.2.37(1)-release (i486-pc-linux-gnu) |
| 08:01.38 | jelly-home | jarco_: dpkg -l bash |tail -n 1 |
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| 08:02.19 | jarco_ | ii bash 4.2+dfsg-0.1+deb7u3 i386 GNU Bourne Again SHell |
| 08:02.28 | jelly-home | that's the latest. |
| 08:02.35 | jarco_ | ok |
| 08:02.52 | jelly-home | you're safe against most of the actually exploitable mechanics |
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| 08:03.08 | jarco_ | ok thanks |
| 08:03.20 | jarco_ | i am looking into the security repository now |
| 08:03.36 | jelly-home | ,v bash |
| 08:03.37 | judd | Package: bash on i386 -- squeeze: 4.1-3; squeeze-security-lts: 4.1-3+deb6u2; wheezy: 4.2+dfsg-0.1; wheezy-security: 4.2+dfsg-0.1+deb7u3; wheezy-proposed-updates: 4.2+dfsg-0.1+deb7u3; sid: 4.3-10; jessie: 4.3-10 |
| 08:03.41 | jarco_ | its actually already in use |
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| 08:03.46 | jelly-home | indeed |
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| 08:05.36 | jarco_ | This is my sources list http://pastebin.com/s1TUb82D . With this if i update often I should remain secure? |
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| 08:06.26 | jelly-home | yes, that's fine |
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| 08:06.58 | jarco_ | Thanks for the advice people :). Now I can rest more easy :) |
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| 08:08.21 | DelphiWorld | hello |
| 08:08.32 | DelphiWorld | how to know what process is taking bandwidth in my deb? |
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| 08:08.52 | Iridos | nethogs? |
| 08:09.06 | DelphiWorld | Iridos: is a package? |
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| 08:10.26 | Iridos | ... and a program |
| 08:10.54 | DelphiWorld | Iridos: thx |
| 08:11.07 | DelphiWorld | Iridos: a process taking 100mbit/s download on my debian! |
| 08:11.18 | DelphiWorld | till now i'm unable to know what's it |
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| 08:12.10 | r3n1c0n | hi |
| 08:12.44 | cnz | anyone know where prebuild iptables firewalls can be ju st downloaded for debian? |
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| 08:13.07 | DelphiWorld | cnz: apt-get install iptables? ;) |
| 08:13.31 | Iridos | if you're looking that does a more permanent accounting for processes (or even a single one) over a longer time... well, I think I'm also still looking for something like that ... although atop might do it |
| 08:14.32 | cnz | DelphiWorld thanks for showing your iq level |
| 08:15.00 | DelphiWorld | :) |
| 08:15.23 | liveAndLetDie | Debian ships with iptableS? |
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| 08:15.26 | liveAndLetDie | doesn't it? |
| 08:15.26 | Iridos | well, we pride ourselves to match the answer to the question :P |
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| 08:16.17 | Iridos | or... to say it in a less cheeky manner... |
| 08:16.25 | Iridos | cnz, your question doesn't really make sense in the first place |
| 08:17.00 | imaami | cnz: http://www.perkin.org.uk/posts/iptables-script-for-debian-ubuntu.html <- best i can do |
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| 08:17.36 | xen_roger | cnz: use ferm for building firewall based on iptables |
| 08:18.02 | xen_roger | debian comes with examples for diffrent szenarios |
| 08:18.36 | xen_roger | ferm is really easy to read an write and it´s mostly fail-safe |
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| 08:18.41 | berarma | DelphiWorld, you can use iftop too |
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| 08:19.01 | DelphiWorld | berarma: iftop show the process? |
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| 08:19.48 | cnz | xen_roger, the point of rebuild scripts is to avoid having to build one myself |
| 08:19.56 | berarma | no, I didn't know about nethogs, seems a better suggestion |
| 08:20.07 | DelphiWorld | berarma: :P |
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| 08:27.20 | Iridos | there's generally no point using someone else's iptables rules... there's clearly none if you don't specify the purpose it will have to serve |
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| 08:36.23 | xen_roger | cnz: what is the goal of your iptables project? |
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| 08:37.31 | cnz | xen_roger, firewall for my server that im also going to use as a router |
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| 08:37.54 | cnz | I just don't want to have to write it myself so looking for rebuilt ones that I can just go modify |
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| 08:40.12 | xen_roger | cnz: bad idea at all ... better ask someone to help you an know about what you are doing |
| 08:40.55 | cnz | no, not a bad idea at all |
| 08:41.11 | cnz | you're assuming I don't know what i'm doing with iptables which it's never good to assume |
| 08:41.37 | cnz | I could write it myself but im just lazy and don't want to do it, rather just find one that's rebuilt |
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| 08:42.10 | Iridos | I would say with the type of stuff you say it's not an assumption |
| 08:42.19 | Iridos | but maybe time to move on now |
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| 08:42.53 | DelphiWorld | cnz: use openWRT |
| 08:43.20 | cnz | DelphiWorld, yep let me get right on that and go install that on my PE 2950 |
| 08:43.28 | xen_roger | cnz: doesn´t make sense at all! if you know about iptables and how to use I don´t unterstand what you are looking for. anyway ... good luck in what ever you do! |
| 08:43.41 | DelphiWorld | pm me cnz |
| 08:44.43 | cnz | xen_roger, I'm lazy, I don't want to write the script with all the bs needed inside it it's a lot easier to use a pre-existing one and modify/add rule sets to it |
| 08:45.31 | cnz | DelphiWorld, thanks but no thanks |
| 08:45.48 | DelphiWorld | cnz: wth is this? |
| 08:45.57 | Iridos | can you just drop it now? |
| 08:46.24 | DelphiWorld | all i pmed to cnz is to install mikrotik RouterOS |
| 08:46.26 | DelphiWorld | or openwrt |
| 08:46.39 | cnz | yeah and all I said was thanks but no thanks |
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| 08:46.59 | cnz | not r unning just a router |
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| 08:47.19 | cnz | to many ppl these days read only 1/4th of what someone types they see a word they reconize and assume they know what they are doing |
| 08:48.15 | DelphiWorld | cnz: if you dont like our responce, just disregard it |
| 08:48.21 | DelphiWorld | people trying to help you and you're complaining |
| 08:49.20 | cnz | actually not complaining, just read the whole statement |
| 08:49.31 | cnz | thanks xiqy for the link :) |
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| 08:51.41 | treaki_icedove | hi folks |
| 08:51.44 | treaki_icedove | ive got a problem |
| 08:52.26 | treaki_icedove | i am using debian sid and after an update of this rolling release i cant change my network manager settings anymore |
| 08:53.09 | treaki_icedove | http://treaki.tk/upload/uploads/1412671973/Screenshot%20from%202014-10-07%2010:46:41.png |
| 08:53.28 | treaki_icedove | the edit button is gray and not working |
| 08:53.50 | berarma | treaki_icedove, sid is not a rolling release |
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| 08:54.18 | berarma | !tell treaki_icedove -about sid |
| 08:54.42 | treaki_icedove | i have already tried to add my user to some groups like netdev (with reboot) but it is still not working |
| 08:55.21 | treaki_icedove | $ cat /etc/debian_version |
| 08:55.21 | treaki_icedove | jessie/sid |
| 08:55.51 | treaki_icedove | dose anybody know about this networkmanagerproblem? |
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| 08:56.49 | berarma | that screenshot doesn't look like the network manager gui on sid |
| 08:57.50 | treaki_icedove | ok, how it is supposed to look like |
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| 09:03.12 | confrey | hi everybody |
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| 09:04.06 | confrey | may anyone help me for understanding wakeup? I need to change /proc/acpi/wakeup to resume power button only, but I don't know about it |
| 09:04.18 | confrey | and |
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| 09:11.59 | future28 | Hey all. I've had gnome 3 doing some funny things (no desktop icons, some extensions blowing up etc) - How could I diagnose my issue best? |
| 09:12.02 | heurist | treaki_icedove: questions about jessie/sid are better addressed to #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
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| 09:13.04 | treaki_icedove | heurist: thanks for your advice, i am right now trying a distupgrade and if the problem after that will still exist i will ask there |
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| 09:13.29 | berarma | treaki_icedove, which network manager frontend are you using (or desktop)? |
| 09:13.50 | treaki_icedove | i am using lxde |
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| 09:14.05 | treaki_icedove | and i guess it is the gnome front end |
| 09:14.29 | michaelis | Hi. I've just read a couple of things regarding systemd. Has Debian Wheezy implemented systemd? |
| 09:15.02 | themill | michaelis: systemd is available for wheezy in wheezy-backports |
| 09:15.02 | future28 | michaelis: Wheezy doesn't implement systemd as far as I know but I think Jessie is |
| 09:15.02 | heurist | michaelis: systemd is optional in wheezy, you can install it from backports if you want it. |
| 09:15.07 | berarma | No, it's not. It could be a problem in the backend or the frontend you're using. |
| 09:15.34 | berarma | treaki_icedove, ^^ |
| 09:15.45 | michaelis | Ok. Thank you. Is Debian thinking of implementing systemd in future versions? |
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| 09:16.09 | heurist | michaelis: systemd is set to be the default in the next version of debian |
| 09:16.15 | berarma | michaelis, read themill and heurist answers |
| 09:17.46 | treaki_icedove | berarma: http://ep.treaki.tk/p/cJB2fh54Uh |
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| 09:18.19 | michaelis | berarma: Ok. Thank you. I mixed up the version code names. |
| 09:20.14 | treaki_icedove | berarma: i have updated the text, can you tell me if the given network-manager is compatible with the gui interface i am using? |
| 09:21.01 | berarma | treaki_icedove, that's not longer a part of gnome on sid |
| 09:21.38 | treaki_icedove | ?? |
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| 09:24.13 | berarma | treaki_icedove, sorry, it seems it's the same package used in gnome3, I was checking |
| 09:24.23 | berarma | I'm puzzled because it looks very different to mine |
| 09:24.45 | berarma | I guess I'm using the Gnome control center instead of the applet |
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| 09:25.35 | future28 | In gnome 3, nautilus does not appear in my applications menu )(nor does any file manager) - Can someone help me to find out why? Also nautilus is managing the desktop and since it is not starting by default, no icons appear |
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| 09:30.22 | berarma | treaki_icedove, you can search reported bugs for both packages |
| 09:31.01 | treaki_icedove | berarma: again back to my question about sid, is there a difference between testing and unstable? |
| 09:31.15 | treaki_icedove | are they both called sid? |
| 09:32.44 | heurist | treaki_icedove: testing is called jessie unstable is called sid. this channel is a stable support channel. maybe best to ask this stuff on #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
| 09:32.46 | berarma | no, unstable is always called sid, testing is now called jessie |
| 09:32.49 | berarma | unstable is were most new packages go and were most bugs are found, testing has packages that already spent some time in unstable |
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| 09:33.12 | treaki_icedove | and am i using unstable or testing? |
| 09:33.21 | gcbirzan | Shouldn't systemd configs be declared as conffiles? |
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| 09:33.35 | berarma | you should know by looking at your sources.list |
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| 09:34.46 | jelly | gcbirzan: not all config files are conffiles |
| 09:35.01 | treaki_icedove | deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ sid main contrib non-free |
| 09:35.08 | gcbirzan | jelly: Well, in particular, I'd assume changes I make there would survive a reinstall :P |
| 09:35.26 | treaki_icedove | can i just change the word "sid" to "testing" and do a dist upgrade without problems? |
| 09:35.38 | ectospasm | treaki_icedove: no |
| 09:35.39 | jelly | gcbirzan: some bug filing in order? |
| 09:35.56 | gcbirzan | jelly: True, but I'm more curious whether it should be a bug |
| 09:36.20 | heurist | !tell treaki_icedove -about downgrade |
| 09:36.20 | treaki_icedove | so is there another way to switch from sid to testing? |
| 09:36.27 | jelly | gcbirzan: if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck |
| 09:37.07 | jelly | treaki_icedove: yes, but you might have lots of packages newer than testing or not available in testin installed already |
| 09:37.18 | treaki_icedove | !tell -about unstable->testing |
| 09:37.57 | heurist | !tell treaki_icedove -about selftell |
| 09:37.59 | jelly | treaki_icedove: read /msg dpkg not available, and /msg dpkg partial downgrade |
| 09:38.51 | treaki_icedove | ok heurist sry and thanks for the information |
| 09:39.01 | heurist | treaki_icedove: no worries |
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| 09:40.59 | treaki_icedove | "change "unstable" to "testing" in your sources.list and wait for packages migrate", how to do that? |
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| 09:41.34 | kristian-aalborg | cheers |
| 09:42.04 | kristian-aalborg | I got Dropbox CLI running on my headless box, but now it keeps saying "Syncing (138 files remaining)"? |
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| 09:43.01 | gcbirzan | jelly: apparently there's a lintian for init scripts so, yeah, it should |
| 09:43.11 | petn-randall | kristian-aalborg: You will have to ask dropbox for support, we can only help you with packages from Debian, sorry. |
| 09:43.13 | treaki_icedove | kristian-aalborg: and is this value decreasing _ |
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| 09:43.48 | kristian-aalborg | treaki_icedove, nope |
| 09:44.12 | kristian-aalborg | petn-randall, CLI users seem to be low priority for them |
| 09:44.52 | jelly | gcbirzan: I believe there's a #debian-systemd channel over on OFTC, they probably have an idea of what the policy for service definitions might look like |
| 09:45.27 | treaki_icedove | kristian-aalborg: i have queried you |
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| 09:47.54 | Iridos | treaki_icedove, that wasn't exactly correct up there... in your question 'can I just change the word "sid" to "testing" and do a dist upgrade without problems?' - you can, but it'll not downgrade you to testing... you'll be in testing when (if ever) all packages you had installed in sid have been migrated from sid into testing |
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| 09:48.40 | jelly | gcbirzan: which package and version was this? |
| 09:49.13 | gcbirzan | jelly: bind9, the unstable version |
| 09:49.20 | gcbirzan | and the experimental version |
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| 09:49.56 | gcbirzan | but in particular, there's nothing in any conffiles on my system about systemd (except its own config files) |
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| 09:50.20 | gcbirzan | grep systemd /var/lib/dpkg/info/*conffiles | grep -v ^/var/lib/dpkg/info/systemd.conffiles | wc -l |
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| 09:50.31 | gcbirzan | grep ^/etc/init.d /var/lib/dpkg/info/*conffiles | wc -l |
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| 09:51.01 | gcbirzan | The majority of files in init.d are marked as conf files |
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| 09:52.20 | gcbirzan | In Wheezy, bind9's package does declare /etc/init.d/bind9 as a conffile |
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| 09:54.43 | sakatovic | ciao |
| 09:54.51 | sakatovic | !list |
| 09:54.51 | dpkg | sakatovic: Debian è un sistema operativo composto da software libero (un concetto distinto da quello di gratis): vedi http://www.debian.org/intro/free.it.html per saperne di più. |
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| 09:56.51 | jelly | gcbirzan: I don't know anything about systemd, is it possible that the configuration changes you need can be introduced in a separate file? |
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| 09:58.15 | jelly | gcbirzan: https://bugs.debian.org/718212 suggests so |
| 09:58.38 | gcbirzan | jelly: I don't know anything about it either, but I generally expect files in /etc/ to be conffiles, especially since init.d files were before. And, even so, if you have /etc/apache2/enabled-sites/, that doesn't mean the ones there by default shouldn' be conffiles |
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| 09:59.26 | jelly | gcbirzan: the best practice workflow may be completely different from init scripts for all I know |
| 10:00.35 | gcbirzan | jelly: I'm thinking of asking debian-devel about it |
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| 10:01.15 | jelly | gcbirzan: <pabs> jelly: ask them to report a bug on bind9 if this is about files in /etc. if it is about systemd unit files outside of /etc, they should leave those unmodified and use the include & override mechanism (not sure where that is documented) |
| 10:01.41 | optraz | ulimit -u , what is the equivalent to set in the configuration file /etc/security/limits.d/ ? |
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| 10:02.16 | gcbirzan | jelly: well, they're symlink'd in /etc :) is that #debian-systemd on oftc? |
| 10:02.22 | jelly | gcbirzan: yes. |
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| 10:17.45 | nosklo | Is debian still vulnerable to shellshock?? According to this https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-6277 I need bash 4.2+dfsg-0.1+deb7u3 which is the one installed, but I still get "vulnerable" on bash -c "f() { x() { _;}; x() { _;} <<a; }" 2>/dev/null || echo vulnerable |
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| 10:18.18 | rudi_s | nosklo: It's fixed. And your check is not valid. |
| 10:18.53 | nosklo | rudi_s: what's wrong with the check? It makes bash segfault! Isn't that a security failure? |
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| 10:19.14 | rudi_s | nosklo: Ah, confused it with the env issue. |
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| 10:19.38 | rudi_s | It shouldn't segfault. Might still be a another issue. |
| 10:19.46 | rudi_s | You could report it. |
| 10:19.59 | xen_roger | try >> curl https://shellshocker.net/shellshock_test.sh | bash |
| 10:20.19 | nosklo | xen_roger: yeah, I tried that and I get failure on CVE-2014-6277 |
| 10:20.30 | xen_roger | yes |
| 10:20.34 | xen_roger | dito |
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| 10:22.43 | metaspike | hmmm |
| 10:22.49 | xen_roger | ok got 3 hits on gentoo ... after update bash ... everything is fine ... debian needs to fix that! |
| 10:23.05 | xen_roger | my other boxes are scared now ... |
| 10:23.09 | petn-randall | Last time I checked, downloading scripts from the internet and running them blindly was a security issue by itself. |
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| 10:23.30 | petn-randall | xen_roger: Are you running bash over CGI? |
| 10:23.34 | nosklo | petn-randall: yeah I didn't run it blindly |
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| 10:24.29 | jelly | petn-randall: are his cgi scripts calling something that calls something that calls bash? |
| 10:24.50 | nosklo | of course not, I don't use CGI, even less with bash. but still, it should be fixed, what I don't understand is why it is not fixed when https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-6277 says it is fixed |
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| 10:26.00 | jelly | nosklo: the remaining issue is newer and lower priority, and does not seem to have a CVE number of its own assigned |
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| 10:26.25 | xen_roger | CVE-2014-6277 (segfault): VULNERABLE |
| 10:26.29 | xen_roger | it has |
| 10:26.45 | petn-randall | xen_roger: Do you actually go through the effort to understand the problem? |
| 10:27.04 | jelly | nosklo: I can't see an immediate way to exploit it but that of course does not mean much. Nope, CVE-2014-6277 is not the one with nested function definitions and redirection. |
| 10:27.36 | nosklo | jelly: I'm trying to find that one in the bugtracker |
| 10:27.38 | nosklo | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=bash |
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| 10:28.12 | berarma | from the cve report: Florian Weimer's variables-affix.patch patch applied in Debian prevents exploitation of this issue [...] |
| 10:28.25 | berarma | please, keep calm |
| 10:29.24 | petn-randall | CVE-2014-6277 is a security issue that allowed *code execution* via environment variables. You're not even setting any. It crashes, yes, but it's by running as script of your choice. So while this is annoying, I don't see how this can be remotely exploited. |
| 10:29.41 | nosklo | petn-randall: "or cause a denial of service (uninitialized memory access, and untrusted-pointer read and write operations)" |
| 10:29.48 | nosklo | segfault |
| 10:30.25 | rgt | on the the topic...supposing i'm dhclient [isc], and my dhcp server is serving up dangerous replies, would that be visible on the client through weird entries in /var/lib/dhcp/dhclient.wlan0.leases? |
| 10:30.49 | nosklo | berarma: so I should be calm, because there's a text that says it is fixed, even though it still fails on my system with the recommended package installed |
| 10:31.01 | jelly | nosklo: it's a different bug. Look at the PoC code. |
| 10:32.05 | rudi_s | nosklo: Yeah, running arbitrary code as your user sounds like a really smart idea .. you don't need any vulns for that .. |
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| 10:33.50 | trewas | ubuntu's security tracker says more about the same patch for CVE-2014-6277 which debian has, "since bash parser vulnerabilities are now limited to specially named environment variables, and as such are no longer directly exposed to CGI scripts, SSH, etc." |
| 10:34.43 | nosklo | I see, I don't set any variables in the exploit, so it becomes a normal bug, instead of a security issue |
| 10:34.52 | jelly | precisely |
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| 10:37.28 | sne | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:38.33 | rudi_s | Segfaulting shells are still annoying though .. |
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| 10:39.43 | linuxthefish | how can i install dig on debian without bind9? |
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| 10:41.52 | rudi_s | linuxthefish: apt-get install dnsutils |
| 10:41.55 | xen_roger | isn´t it part of dnsutils? |
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| 10:42.08 | linuxthefish | oh cheers |
| 10:42.12 | xen_roger | rudi_s: was faster ;) |
| 10:42.17 | rudi_s | And you can find that by either using apt-file or on a system with dig installed, dpkg -S /usr/bin/dig |
| 10:42.29 | Discon|AFK | okay so: I have been workingnon debian from my VM on w8 (it is installed to the disk) when trying to boot into debian i get to grub then the normal text before the login manager apears but it doesnt the screen just stays black |
| 10:42.33 | Discon|AFK | ideas? |
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| 10:43.34 | Discon|AFK | right now i am sitting in the grub boot menu |
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| 10:57.04 | Discon|AFK | ideas? |
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| 10:59.29 | Iridos | dpkg, any ideas |
| 10:59.32 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a drawer full of string, a little WD-40, and a handful of starving goats. And keep the Cabal off my back for the next few minutes! |
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| 11:00.40 | Iridos | and... well, boot into single-user mode and disable X startup |
| 11:00.45 | Disconsented | ... |
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| 11:01.19 | Iridos | by the way... you haven't even mentioned what vm that is |
| 11:01.42 | Svetlana | how do I set a systemwide locale with debian server? |
| 11:01.56 | Iridos | last thing I used was virtualbox and it was all so problem-free, I don't even remember what I did :P |
| 11:02.03 | Disconsented | I installed the OS via the VM (Hyper - X) but I am just booting into it (installed to physical HDD and this worked on debian 7) |
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| 11:02.20 | Disconsented | Using Debian 8 (Jessie) |
| 11:02.26 | Iridos | Svetlana, dpkg-reconfigure locales |
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| 11:02.35 | heurist | Svetlana: dpkg-reconfigure tzdata |
| 11:02.49 | berarma | Disconsented, switch to a tty and check /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors |
| 11:02.50 | heurist | Svetlana: woops, wrong history copy |
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| 11:03.48 | Svetlana | ok. thanks. |
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| 11:05.39 | Disconsented | http://pastebin.com/Rf4HVsay |
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| 11:06.39 | Disconsented | I think line 92 is the problem |
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| 11:11.28 | Disconsented | I don't understand the issue. Can someone point me in the right direction? |
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| 11:15.25 | metaspike | Disconsented, tried moving xorg.conf and starting afresh? |
| 11:15.36 | metaspike | just boot without it, see what happens |
| 11:15.45 | Disconsented | ill try that now |
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| 11:16.04 | Svetlana | I reconfigured locale and set a different locale but an existing user still has old locale (after logging out and logging in). |
| 11:16.12 | Svetlana | I'd like to change it to the new value too. how? |
| 11:16.58 | metaspike | dpkg-reconfigure locales, as root. |
| 11:17.35 | heurist | Svetlana: check that the user is not setting LANG or any of the LC_ variables in their profile. |
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| 11:17.57 | Svetlana | metaspike, that is what I did. |
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| 11:19.13 | Svetlana | heurist: not in ~/.bash* stuff. |
| 11:19.37 | Disconsented | xorg.conf should be in /etc/X11/ right? |
| 11:19.48 | heurist | Svetlana: run set | grep -E "^L(ANG|C_)" as the user to see which ones are being set, then search all the .bash* .profile and xinitrc stuff. |
| 11:20.08 | Disconsented | because I cannot find it and "sudo find . -name xorg.conf" returns nothing |
| 11:21.24 | Svetlana | heurist, all of them are set to wrong values, "grep WRONGLANGCODE *" while sitting in "~" returns nothing. |
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| 11:25.38 | metaspike | assuming it's not there... sudo Xorg -configure to create it. i don't get it though |
| 11:25.44 | metaspike | should just work |
| 11:27.04 | Disconsented | I have somthing to try brb |
| 11:27.46 | metaspike | Svetlana, what's the locale as root? |
| 11:28.16 | heurist | Discon|AFK: please see http://sackheads.org/~bnaylor/spew/away_msgs.html |
| 11:28.22 | doebi | i am failing hard on ln() |
| 11:28.33 | doebi | either it complains that a file exists or does not exists |
| 11:30.01 | Disconsented | nope no luck, ctrl+alt+f1 doesn't work either :( |
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| 11:31.02 | doebi | i got 2 directories /part0/foo/home and /part0/backups/foo/pictures and i want pictures to be symlinked in /part0/foo/home/pictures |
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| 11:33.59 | Disconsented | I think I am just going to just reinstall it but not through my VM :| |
| 11:34.33 | Disconsented | Thanks for the help metaspike and Iridos |
| 11:34.43 | Disconsented | Gnite |
| 11:35.10 | heurist | doebi: ln -s /part0/backups/foo/pictures /part0/foo/home |
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| 11:41.08 | HibernateStump | folks upgraded from squeeze to wheezy on 6 servers all ok the 7th comlains about grub-setup "the sectors of the core file are too fragmented" i believe the root device is /dev/sda any pointers |
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| 11:41.50 | kristian-aalborg | hmm, I need to free up some space |
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| 11:42.05 | kristian-aalborg | I feel like I've exhausted all the tricks I know |
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| 11:42.36 | DelphiWorld | security alert: http://www.akamai.com/html/about/press/releases/2014/press-090314-1.html |
| 11:42.46 | DelphiWorld | any way to protect it in DEB? |
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| 11:46.32 | petn-randall | DelphiWorld: Yes. Keep your system patched. |
| 11:47.06 | DelphiWorld | petn-randall: i have been in latest wheezy and i got hacked |
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| 11:47.26 | petn-randall | DelphiWorld: How? |
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| 11:47.40 | DelphiWorld | petn-randall: i have no clue;( |
| 11:47.54 | petn-randall | DelphiWorld: Did you run elasticsearch on the machine? |
| 11:49.25 | metaspike | ever consider that it wasn't a zero-day vulnerability? they are all the hype lately |
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| 11:49.48 | DelphiWorld | petn-randall: no, apachze |
| 11:49.52 | DelphiWorld | petn-randall: no, apache |
| 11:51.24 | petn-randall | metaspike: If it's being exploited in such a large scale, people would be on it by now. |
| 11:51.38 | petn-randall | DelphiWorld: Did you apply security updates on a regular basis? |
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| 11:51.56 | DelphiWorld | petn-randall: i always apt-get update dayly |
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| 11:52.44 | petn-randall | DelphiWorld: ... that only updates what apt knows about the remote repository contents. It doesn't apply any security updates. |
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| 11:53.05 | DelphiWorld | petn-randall: so how to aply it? |
| 11:53.16 | petn-randall | DelphiWorld: "apt-get upgrade" |
| 11:53.35 | DelphiWorld | lol petn-randall this is sure, after update! |
| 11:53.41 | DelphiWorld | is not realy stupid petn-randall ;) |
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| 11:54.49 | petn-randall | DelphiWorld: Then you should have said that, you weren't very precise with your wording. Is the machine still compromised? |
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| 11:55.21 | DelphiWorld | petn-randall: no, i got pissed so i reinstalled it |
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| 11:57.45 | ectospasm | I'm having trouble with tripwire on Debian Wheezy. No matter what I try, every command I run in a root shell, or with sudo even, causes the modtime of /root to change. I can't get a clean tripwire --check because of this, as updating the database updates the modtime of /root, and with SEC_CRIT it's always flagged. |
| 11:58.03 | ectospasm | I don't want to turn off warnings of modtimes for this directory, though |
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| 11:58.49 | petn-randall | DelphiWorld: Reinstalling is best practice, very good. But it's also important to analyze how the breach succeeded, so you can fix that hole in the new machine. Maybe you have a vulnerable application running ontop of apache? |
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| 11:59.23 | DelphiWorld | petn-randall: nop, just static files i think |
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| 11:59.51 | armin | anyone having fun with skype after upgrading? |
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| 12:00.02 | petn-randall | !anyone |
| 12:00.02 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
| 12:00.21 | DelphiWorld | lawl, petn-randall |
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| 12:00.28 | armin | skype: error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64 |
| 12:00.45 | armin | and really, it's not my wish to run this crap. |
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| 12:01.27 | ectospasm | IIRC, Skype on Linux requires multiarch, or a 32bit OS |
| 12:01.40 | DelphiWorld | who use skype anymore? |
| 12:01.41 | petn-randall | DelphiWorld: Then I don't know the answer. I know of 4 machines in my circle of acquaintances that got breached due to a remote code execution vulnerability in elasticsearch, and those machines all got used for DDoS attacks. |
| 12:01.52 | petn-randall | !skype |
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| 12:01.53 | dpkg | Skype is a proprietary cross-platform <VoIP> service and application owned by Microsoft. Debian cannot distribute the application due to its license. See http://wiki.debian.org/skype and ask me about <skype amd64> for community-contributed information. Consider using free and secure alternatives: <ekiga>, <empathy>, <jitsi>, <linphone>. |
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| 12:02.26 | DelphiWorld | petn-randall: regardless... forget it, it take 100mbit/s download! |
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| 12:03.08 | petn-randall | !lol |
| 12:03.08 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
| 12:03.19 | petn-randall | :) |
| 12:03.33 | DelphiWorld | petn-randall: :-P |
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| 12:05.46 | DelphiWorld | !tel petn-randall about petn-randall |
| 12:05.52 | DelphiWorld | ;) |
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| 12:09.17 | aleray_ | hi, how can I change the hostnale and the fqdn hostname, without restarting |
| 12:09.41 | aleray_ | also I have exim4 running, should I dpkg-reconfigure it? |
| 12:10.02 | aleray_ | any other things to be careful about when changing the hostname/fqdn? |
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| 12:10.27 | abrotman | aleray_: man hostname |
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| 12:13.48 | biggi_mat | Hello. Is there a way to create a socket by using socket program and force ssh-agent to use that socket as itâs own? What I need is forwarding ssh-agent keys from my machine via ssh on server which is running docker and has a forceCommand defined for a group. |
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| 12:30.07 | dutchfish | biggi_mat, github has epxlained this in depth. As far as i understand it your local keys are always forward through the agent, there is no other way as far as i know. See: https://developer.github.com/guides/using-ssh-agent-forwarding/ |
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| 12:30.41 | dutchfish | explained* |
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| 12:31.13 | biggi_mat | dutchfish: thanks, Iâve read through that butâ¦butâ¦itâs not exactly that.. |
| 12:31.49 | dutchfish | biggi_mat, ok, then maybe i misunderstood, try rephrasing your question |
| 12:32.43 | dutchfish | biggi_mat, or what are you trying to accomplish |
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| 12:33.13 | biggi_mat | dutchfish: the only problem is the difference in architecture of what Iâm doing vs. what github explained |
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| 12:33.44 | biggi_mat | dutchfish: I think at least, let me reread (Iâve tried too many things since I read that really) |
| 12:33.52 | wjtaylor | how do I get a link's full path to target. ls -l gives me ../partial/path |
| 12:34.18 | wjtaylor | or is .. parent? |
| 12:34.40 | biggi_mat | dutchfish: what I have is: <me> â> <debian server>(docker on it). Debian server has forceCommand in sshd_config that automattically attaches console to docker instance. While I have ssh-agent forwarded key avaliable on debian, docker DOES NOT see âem |
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| 12:35.03 | dutchfish | biggi_mat, as i understand it, you connect to a remote shell with a private key, and execute from there a remote sehll command to another machine, with your local privat key. That should work out of the box as explained at github |
| 12:35.17 | biggi_mat | Nope, itâs not that :( |
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| 12:35.22 | wjtaylor | nevermind ... need coffee |
| 12:35.24 | subz3r0 | hi |
| 12:35.33 | dutchfish | biggi_mat, any given machine has a different key |
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| 12:35.53 | biggi_mat | Thatâs fineâ¦itâs not that. I need private keys of course |
| 12:35.54 | subz3r0 | i used dist-upgrade for gettin the newest kernel update (linux-image-amd64) |
| 12:36.24 | biggi_mat | Seeâ¦.for eample I have my private github key on my local computer and I REFUSE to put it on any other server from which I need my github access. Itâs the same with docker |
| 12:36.24 | subz3r0 | how can i roll it back? |
| 12:36.48 | dutchfish | biggi_mat, the agent on the first box handles the key forwarding, even it is being used to setup a socket |
| 12:37.20 | biggi_mat | dutchfish: exactly. That socket then is _not_ forwarded to docker console. Thatâs the issue |
| 12:37.22 | dutchfish | biggi_mat, within the context of repeceting permission on that particular remote host |
| 12:37.57 | subz3r0 | since the server is now using kernle version 3.16. how can i get rid of the updated package? |
| 12:37.58 | dutchfish | biggi_mat, unless you right a script with the correct permissions to do just that and execute it, whats te problem? |
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| 12:39.43 | subz3r0 | anyone? |
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| 12:40.09 | biggi_mat | dutchfish: Iâm not sure I follow you |
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| 12:40.24 | dutchfish | biggi_mat, its simular to creating a service with a socket, you dont excute the daemon in a shell either |
| 12:40.36 | biggi_mat | subz3r0: feel free to downgrade it apt-get |
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| 12:42.01 | dutchfish | biggi_mat, you cal its accompanying start-stop-reload script, whatever |
| 12:42.33 | biggi_mat | I literally am lost in what youâre saying |
| 12:42.42 | dutchfish | biggi_mat, that returns you back to the shell, with the socket running |
| 12:43.31 | subz3r0 | how? |
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| 12:43.53 | biggi_mat | subz3r0: what is the problem? What does aptitude search linux-image-3.* say? |
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| 12:44.37 | subz3r0 | the problem is that backups wont work anymore.... rsync says the server is down.... that started to happen after the upgrade to kernel 3.165 |
| 12:44.41 | subz3r0 | the problem is that backups wont work anymore.... rsync says the server is down.... that started to happen after the upgrade to kernel 3.16 |
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| 12:46.00 | dutchfish | biggi_mat, read about sysv and /etc/init.d/README how to roll your own, with respect to what your daemon is capable of |
| 12:46.22 | subz3r0 | well i upgraded with dist-upgrade "linux-image-amd64" |
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| 12:46.32 | dutchfish | biggi_mat, it prolly has a bind command of some sort |
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| 12:47.31 | subz3r0 | since i did not change aything else. it must be the last upgrade. so how can i roll it back to old kernel usage? |
| 12:47.58 | subz3r0 | i guess removing linux-image-amd64 will break the system and removes all kernels? |
| 12:48.50 | biggi_mat | subz3r0: please pastebin your /boor/grub/menu.lst |
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| 12:49.44 | petn-randall | subz3r0: Which release are you running? |
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| 12:51.03 | subz3r0 | bigbigggi_mat: for what reason? im using kernel 3.16 now after the last dist-upgrade |
| 12:51.07 | subz3r0 | petn-randall: wheezy |
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| 12:51.43 | themill | subz3r0: what's the output of "uname -r" there? |
| 12:51.43 | doebi | heurist: awesome, thanks. seems like i got a twist in my mind |
| 12:51.44 | petn-randall | subz3r0: How? 3.16 is in none of wheezy's repos. |
| 12:51.57 | petn-randall | ,kernels |
| 12:51.59 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.17-rc5-686-pae (3.17~rc5-1~exp1); sid: 3.16-2-686-pae (3.16.3-2); jessie: 3.16-2-686-pae (3.16.3-2); wheezy-backports: 3.16-0.bpo.2-686-pae (3.16.3-2~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.60-1+deb7u3); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.57-3+deb7u2~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze6) |
| 12:52.10 | petn-randall | subz3r0: Sorry, my mistake. |
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| 12:53.08 | petn-randall | subz3r0: I'm pretty sure though that your rsync issue is unrelated to your kernel. Show us the exact steps you're trying to do, and what the output is, and what you expect. Anything you want to paste, please put to http://paste.debian.net. |
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| 12:53.40 | subz3r0 | uname -r = 3.16-0.bpo.2-amd64 |
| 12:54.06 | subz3r0 | petn-randall: its a backupserver. and the complete steps would be way too much... since the script has about 1000 lines... |
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| 12:54.25 | subz3r0 | fact is after the dist-upgrade the backups wont work anymore |
| 12:54.31 | biggi_mat | Just say what you have in your menu.lst |
| 12:54.37 | petn-randall | subz3r0: So how far did you get with debugging? Which is the exact step that fails? |
| 12:54.55 | subz3r0 | now i just wanna roll it back like it was before. |
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| 12:55.15 | themill | perhaps fixing the problem would be better than reverting to a completely unsupported kernel version |
| 12:55.23 | petn-randall | subz3r0: The backup server booted 3.16 fine? Why are you not running 3.2, which is the default in wheezy. |
| 12:55.44 | subz3r0 | because i did a dist-upgrade? |
| 12:55.53 | petn-randall | subz3r0: I agree with themill, your problem won't go away by downgrading. |
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| 12:56.07 | subz3r0 | uhmm? |
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| 12:56.52 | subz3r0 | petn-randall: what do you need from the menu.lst. since im working with different VM's atm... copy and paste wont work |
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| 12:58.15 | biggi_mat | Default and title columns |
| 12:58.27 | subz3r0 | themill: unsupported kernel versions? ehh? |
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| 12:58.58 | themill | subz3r0: well precisely what do you think you're going to downgrade to? |
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| 12:59.23 | notanircbot | hello. if i split a large .zip file with 7z. is it possible to open it in windows if i change the filename from file.zip.001 file.zip.002 to file.part01.zip and file.part02.zip? its important every 0815 windows user is able to open it |
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| 12:59.54 | moeyebus | Hello |
| 13:00.02 | notanircbot | i used the command: |
| 13:00.02 | notanircbot | 7z a ./folder -r -tzip -v10m |
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| 13:00.56 | moeyebus | I need to reinstall apache2 with a new /etc/apache2 but when I ` rm -rf /etc/apache2 ; apt-get remove apache2 ; apt-get install apache2` it installs fine but there's no /etc/apache2 |
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| 13:01.03 | heurist | notanircbot: you would have to ask some ##windows people. or try if on a few Windows machines. |
| 13:01.06 | daemonkeeper | That's by design moeyebus. |
| 13:01.08 | themill | dpkg: tell moeyebus about confmiss |
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| 13:01.35 | phaidros | when configuring a network device in initrd, is it common that this ip is kept when booting the main os? |
| 13:02.03 | moeyebus | Thanks themill |
| 13:02.18 | themill | moeyebus: make sure you're actually reinstalling the right package too |
| 13:02.21 | moeyebus | Huh. It didn't work... |
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| 13:03.29 | moeyebus | Okay, yeah, that's apache2.2-common apache2 . :) |
| 13:03.44 | dutchfish | phaidros, any ip that is in a config file, if instructed to use it will sustain over boots. Normally that is handed to a config file in /etc/foo for any given damaen process |
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| 13:04.10 | dutchfish | daemon* |
| 13:04.17 | ShalokShalom | how can i use the win 32 loader with a costum iso, please ? |
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| 13:06.01 | dutchfish | phaidros, also see /etc/network/interfaces for lan setups |
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| 13:06.44 | subz3r0 | re |
| 13:06.47 | subz3r0 | lost the internet connection :/ |
| 13:07.15 | _MoneY_ | Hey there. Is it possible to create a "Cache All" Email and do the following: Incomming mail from xzy@xzy.tdl to abc.def.ghi.tdl@mydomain.tdl this email should be on this account and also send to abd.def@ghi.tdl |
| 13:07.15 | _MoneY_ | So I can read all mails concentrated on one cacheall-Account and forward the email to the agent. |
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| 13:08.10 | subz3r0 | well. since linux-image-amd64 awas upograded.... what happens when i purge that packet? |
| 13:08.19 | phaidros | dutchfish: that part is clear, but I configured an IP in /etc/initramfs-tools/initramfs.conf which works (for logging into initrd dropbear and do stuff), but during the further boot that ip on that device is kept. which is not what I expected. (I want to use a bridge when booted fully up, so having a configured eth0 with ip *and* eth0 in a bridge is an unwanted result) |
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| 13:09.04 | heurist | phaidros: flush the interface before you exit the initrd. |
| 13:09.13 | petn-randall | subz3r0: Then the package will get purged. And any automatic dependencies, too, if you instruct apt/aptitude to do so. |
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| 13:09.38 | phaidros | heurist: ic, where would one do that? (and which command to use?) |
| 13:09.46 | dutchfish | phaidros, you could use ifup and ifdown statements in /etc/network/interfaces when your adapter goes up, also read about bridge setup and post scripting |
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| 13:10.23 | dutchfish | phaidros, man interfaces as a starter |
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| 13:10.43 | dutchfish | phaidros, also https://wiki.debian.org/BridgeNetworkConnections |
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| 13:10.49 | phaidros | dutchfish, heurist: I understand correctly, that the persistance of an ip from initrd to later boot is intended, right? |
| 13:10.54 | ShalokShalom | how can i use the win 32 loader with a costum iso, please ? |
| 13:10.59 | phaidros | dutchfish: I am familiar with interfaces sofar, thanks :) |
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| 13:11.08 | dutchfish | phaidros, yes |
| 13:11.45 | phaidros | dutchfish: I just wonder if it is really the way to go, to pre/post-up script in interfaces a previously configured ethX .. or as heurist suggested, flushing it before leaving initrd .. |
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| 13:11.56 | themill | subz3r0: fixing the real problem will be far more productive |
| 13:12.12 | phaidros | thanks dutchfish & heurist |
| 13:12.21 | dutchfish | phaidros, it depends on what you want, post/pre scripting is intended for things to happen after the bridge comes active |
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| 13:12.34 | dutchfish | phaidros, or before |
| 13:12.43 | subz3r0 | themil fixing what problem? rsync just says "Server down!" thats it. nothing else to investigate |
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| 13:13.14 | themill | subz3r0: that's not an rsync error message and changing the kernel doesn't do anything to rsync |
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| 13:13.31 | dutchfish | phaidros, bridge command can't be excuted before the bridge is setup |
| 13:14.15 | themill | subz3r0: changing the kernel might change your networking setup in some very odd way (even that is unlikely, but it can happen). If you're not prepared to investigate there's little that can be done... |
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| 13:14.48 | Iridos | Discon|AFK, re line 92: possibly. that's still a weird reason. Also not sure it should use FBDEV. I don't know the VM you use... it might be a common problem with it. it may have guest additions which create a (the only?) video driver it can properly work with |
| 13:15.18 | heurist | phaidros: not sure what option you have in your initrd but something like ip addr flush dev eth0 should work |
| 13:15.54 | subz3r0 | themill: rsync: readlink_stat("/export") failed: Host is down (112) |
| 13:16.21 | subz3r0 | and before the kernel upgrade it worked. so its not the kernel? since nothing else was upgraded |
| 13:16.21 | phaidros | heurist: yep, figured that would be the way to got, or just when booted up "post-up ip addr flush dev eth0" for br0 in interfaces. or would that be bad practice? |
| 13:17.03 | heurist | phaidros: pre-up sounds like a better place. or in the initrc's init script. |
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| 13:17.12 | phaidros | heurist: kk, thanks |
| 13:17.16 | dutchfish | phaidros, why not add/or not that ip in the interfaces post script instead of initrd? |
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| 13:17.22 | subz3r0 | the host is not down. im connected to it and pinging it all the time |
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| 13:18.22 | dutchfish | phaidros, sorry pre script |
| 13:18.36 | phaidros | dutchfish: thanks dude :) |
| 13:18.46 | dutchfish | yw |
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| 13:23.28 | dnsser | is anyone else having problems resolving *.debian.* domains? |
| 13:23.47 | dutchfish | dnsser, not from where i live |
| 13:23.54 | dnsser | there seems to be a timeout which is causing DNSSEC validation issues |
| 13:23.57 | dnsser | http://dnssec-debugger.verisignlabs.com/wiki.debian.org |
| 13:24.33 | dutchfish | dnsser, ah, dns3 seams down |
| 13:24.37 | dnsser | the problem is intermittent, and only present if we have DNSSEC validation turned out |
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| 13:25.22 | dutchfish | dnsser, the only strange thing i encountered in rspect to that is that some google service have the same issue |
| 13:25.32 | dnsser | oh, interesting |
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| 13:25.59 | dutchfish | dnsser, also intermittent |
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| 13:26.11 | dutchfish | fyi |
| 13:26.30 | dnsser | is there someone responsible for this on the debian side? |
| 13:26.38 | dnsser | someone who can liaise with easydns |
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| 13:28.08 | petn-randall | subz3r0: Good luck. Come back if you want to debug the rsync issue (since I'm pretty sure downgrading won't fix it). |
| 13:28.47 | targelok | q |
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| 13:29.53 | subz3r0 | petn-randall: okay. so just tell me. it worked for years and now just after a kernel upgrade it does not anymore? so its not the kernel? |
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| 13:30.43 | petn-randall | subz3r0: Something was set by hand that didn't stick on reboot? Since you don't want to investigate, any discussion about this is fruitless. |
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| 13:32.20 | subz3r0 | petn-randall: mhhh? nothing was set by hand |
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| 13:34.58 | subz3r0 | why should i invetigate something which its not wort to invetigate. the script worked for yeas. and now with just one "new" kernel it does not? So I should fix the script itself and not complaining about a shitty kernel?! since there are no shitty kernels out there and all work just like a charme? ehh? |
| 13:34.59 | themill | subz3r0: changing the kernel is about the least likely thing to be directly related. But I've already said that and so has petn-randall. We need you to actually look at this afresh and try to diagnose the problem otherwise we either keep going in circles or we give up |
| 13:35.30 | subz3r0 | themill: well i pasted the error that i got. |
| 13:35.41 | themill | That really tells us nothing. |
| 13:35.53 | subz3r0 | rsync: readlink_stat("/export") failed: Host is down (112) |
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| 13:37.34 | themill | Some context is traditional. That is run on what machine? /export is the remote or local side? Is it a network filesystem? What protocol is rsync using to connect? Can you copy files manually to/from that location? |
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| 13:42.19 | petn-randall | lost interest in the case. |
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| 13:42.56 | petn-randall | subz3r0: Boot into the old kernel, you can select that in grub. Then try it again, and it might magically work. |
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| 13:44.21 | edoardo | hi! |
| 13:44.31 | edoardo | i still have yesterday's problem |
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| 13:44.39 | edoardo | i can't find sources for any kernel |
| 13:44.51 | edoardo | so dkms fails building the module |
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| 13:48.08 | dutchfish | edoardo, you need to install the right kernel headers also look at /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/updates/dkms/ |
| 13:48.35 | dutchfish | edoardo, dkms doesn't automagically add the right ones |
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| 13:49.50 | edoardo | dutchfish: all kernel headers are installed |
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| 13:49.58 | edoardo | linux-headers |
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| 13:50.02 | edoardo | linux-image |
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| 13:50.06 | edoardo | linux-source |
| 13:50.07 | edoardo | all installed |
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| 13:50.27 | edoardo | i tried to purge and reinstall dkms, change package etc, but still no success |
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| 13:50.38 | dutchfish | edoardo, what is the output of 'uname -a' (use pastebin) |
| 13:51.23 | themill | edoardo: What's the output of « aptitude search "~nlinux~i" » ? |
| 13:51.35 | edoardo | dutchfish: just realized i need to reboot after i update the kernel ;_; |
| 13:51.44 | edoardo | wait a moment |
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| 13:56.06 | edoardo | yay it's building!! :D |
| 13:56.14 | dutchfish | :) |
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| 13:56.36 | edoardo | yay it crashed! |
| 13:56.39 | edoardo | :( |
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| 13:57.16 | edoardo | bad exit status: 2 |
| 13:57.55 | subz3r0 | petn-randall: there is no grub menue per remote... |
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| 14:07.27 | r3n1c0n | hi |
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| 14:16.38 | wabuh | <subz3r0> you can edit the grub config to choose the default kernel |
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| 14:19.29 | sysko | Hello I have created a rust library (that compiles down to a .so and .h 100% C-ABI compatible) , i want to package it into a .deb, to find resource on how to do it, i just need to find a good tutorial on how to package a C library ? |
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| 14:20.03 | dracc | sysko; Have you tried checkinstall ? :) |
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| 14:20.54 | sysko | dracc: no, as it was not precised in https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/index.en.html :) but let me have a look at that |
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| 14:22.53 | sysko | dracc: the fact is rust equivalent of "make" (i.e cargo) has not yet a "install" procedure, so right now it's pretty much "if you want to install it, use cp" :P |
| 14:23.49 | sysko | or can checkinstall works also with a "my_custom_install_script.sh" ? |
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| 14:26.34 | sysko | hmm http://www.webtrek.com/joe/articles/checkinstall.html seems to answer "yes" to my question |
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| 14:29.17 | Iridos | sysko, yes... it can... but the packages you get out are of course not really like the packages the maintainer make... more something for in-house use in places where people don't see it |
| 14:29.49 | Iridos | sysko, apaort from that the new maintainer guide you quoted would be the right thing to read |
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| 14:30.35 | paw | query, are pantheon desktop debian packages available? |
| 14:31.11 | Iridos | judd, versions pantheon |
| 14:31.12 | judd | No package named 'pantheon' was found in i386. |
| 14:31.19 | nkuttler | !tell paw about search |
| 14:31.39 | sysko | Iridos: i see, can i go from a "dirty checkinstall package" to a "clean and ready" debian package ? (i mean at first doing something quick and dirty for my personnal use) |
| 14:32.15 | sysko | or going the checkinstall way will require later a "throw everything away or nearly everything, and start from good basis" |
| 14:32.16 | Iridos | dpkg, tell sysko about nmg |
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| 14:33.18 | Iridos | I have no idea how much of the checkinstall stuff you can recycle when you hand-package |
| 14:33.25 | fiola | edoardo: I fixed a dkms error manually last night after the build of fglrx failed in a compile. Don't know if that's your problem, your context has scropped off, but my problem was pasted here -- http://paste.debian.net/124937/ |
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| 14:34.53 | lroe | How would I go about figuring out if icedove 31 will ever be ported to wheezy? |
| 14:35.15 | lroe | http://mozilla.debian.net/ is woefully out of date |
| 14:35.34 | sysko | Iridos: ok no problem, thanks for the pointers |
| 14:35.37 | Iridos | sysko, IIRC checkinstall will only create a binary package for installing and not a source package... so for a "real package" you'd need to create a source package from which the binary package(s) are compiled automatically |
| 14:36.14 | fiola | edoardo: It required patching the source code, and I did it only sufficiently to generate a driver that runs, not the "proper" way. I don't know the proper way. |
| 14:36.51 | Iridos | sysko, check out the tutorial at https://www.debian.org/doc/devel-manuals#packaging-tutorial that might give you a general idea without totally drowning you in policy |
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| 14:38.13 | edoardo | fiola: i fixed it using another package |
| 14:38.51 | fiola | edoardo: Cool. Which package was that? |
| 14:39.33 | edoardo | i meant driver, sorry |
| 14:39.52 | edoardo | i just installed some .xml files and i got the console to work out of the box |
| 14:40.01 | edoardo | well, sorta out of the box :) |
| 14:40.40 | fiola | Ah, your problem was different to mine, kk. I was trying to upgrade to kernel 3.16-0.bpo.2-686-pae and still have a working fglrx. No relationship. :-) |
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| 14:42.03 | somiaj | ,v fiola |
| 14:42.04 | judd | No package named 'fiola' was found in i386. |
| 14:42.11 | somiaj | ,v fglrx-drivers |
| 14:42.12 | judd | No package named 'fglrx-drivers' was found in i386. |
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| 14:42.24 | somiaj | fiola: does the fglrx drivers not compile against the 3.16 kernel? |
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| 14:44.11 | fiola | somiaj: No, it bombs out :-( See the tail end of http://paste.debian.net/124937/ |
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| 14:45.36 | fiola | somiaj: But although my hack fixed it, I did not do it correctly, since I redefined the copyright symbol to "GPL". That's clearly not valid for distribution. Do you know the proper way to do it? |
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| 14:49.11 | somiaj | fiola: well I don't see any bugs reported. Not sure what your issue could be in that build or if it is a bug or something with your setup. |
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| 14:51.13 | fiola | I could paste the patch needed, I guess. It could only be informational though, not for distribution as-is, owing to the bad hack of MODULE_LICENSE. |
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| 14:52.36 | fiola | somiaj: I'm new to this, but happy to learn if you link me to where bugs are to be reported. |
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| 15:08.00 | fiola | somiaj: Here's my quick patch, FWIW --- http://paste.debian.net/125004/ Might help someone who has the same problem, but it can't be the official way to fix it. |
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| 15:43.53 | illy | debian is love |
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| 15:45.41 | fiola | Only in stable. :-) |
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| 15:53.38 | ksk | hey guys. is/was lenny affected by shellshock? |
| 15:54.06 | tsam | Yes of course. |
| 15:54.18 | heurist | ksk: was and still is. |
| 15:54.28 | tsam | The bug affect several versions of bash up to 20 years ago. |
| 15:54.34 | richac | does debian have any releases with Grsecurity in the kernel? |
| 15:54.37 | ManoftheSea | Hello Debian-ites. Debianians? I'm compiling my own kernel in hopes of booting with EFI stub, directly from the UEFI firmware. It worked in 3.16, but now gives me an error in 3.17. Could anyone direct me to where I would find experience and be on topic? |
| 15:54.39 | ksk | no patches from debian-lts for lenny? |
| 15:55.20 | heurist | ksk: is there a lenny lts? |
| 15:55.29 | tsam | There is. |
| 15:55.31 | tsam | http://security.debian.org/debian-security/pool/updates/main/b/bash/ |
| 15:55.31 | ksk | !tell heurist abut lenny-lts |
| 15:55.38 | tsam | 25-Sep-2014 20:28 |
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| 15:55.51 | ksk | eh, s/lenny/squeeze. sorry guys :D |
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| 15:56.08 | illy | jut update bash to fix the exploit :D |
| 15:56.17 | heurist | ksk: you mean squeeze-lts? lenny is really old. |
| 15:56.25 | tsam | ksk:both bash have been patched |
| 15:56.34 | tsam | heurist: still bash has been updated in lenny. |
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| 15:56.50 | heurist | ksk: then yes. |
| 15:57.00 | ksk | okay okay. many thanks. sorry for the confusion :) |
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| 15:57.17 | ManoftheSea | Wouldn't the better fix for lenny be to install dash and symlink /bin/sh to it? |
| 15:57.21 | heurist | ksk: codenames are confusing by design. (: |
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| 15:57.44 | heurist | tsam: good to know that lenny got a fix. |
| 15:57.55 | fiola | There have been a whole sequence of bash updates, as it wasn't a single bug but more of a whole theme of bash usage. And really the thinking about the problem is still ongoing. |
| 15:58.26 | heurist | fiola: true, but that is true of all software. |
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| 15:58.49 | fiola | ManoftheSea: That would only be a fix if you uninstalled bash completely. Normally bash is present and /bin/sh is just a symlink to dash. |
| 15:59.29 | ManoftheSea | My understanding is that environment variables pass to bash since it's the default interpreter for various services. |
| 15:59.44 | ManoftheSea | It wouldn't solve the post-auth ssh problem, but it would stop the DHCP problem |
| 15:59.52 | heurist | ManoftheSea: some things call bash directly, not sh. |
| 16:00.03 | tsam | heurist: my appologies, I talked too fast. Lenny is still vulnerable. Wrong url. |
| 16:00.07 | tsam | ksk: ^ |
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| 16:00.13 | zinx | i want my things to use /bin/sh kthx |
| 16:00.26 | heurist | tsam: yeah, lenny users will need to fix it themselves. |
| 16:00.30 | tsam | yes |
| 16:01.22 | ManoftheSea | heurist: Then those things are broken too. Now we have two problems. |
| 16:01.31 | heurist | zinx: grep -r '/bin/bash' /usr/bin/ will give a sample of some of the stuff that uses bash directly. |
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| 16:01.54 | heurist | ManoftheSea: true. but more than two. grep -r '/bin/bash' /usr/bin/ |
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| 16:02.12 | ManoftheSea | for login? |
| 16:02.15 | fiola | Shell was never intended to be used in Internet-facing services, not even indirectly. It's no different to a local language, say like C. The problem's really been created by people who create networked services providing a means for shell to get invoked, eg. in CGI programs. |
| 16:02.43 | zinx | heurist: almost entirely scripts written for bash. |
| 16:03.09 | heurist | fiola: yeah, but that is where we find ourselves. and we have to deal with the situation at hand. |
| 16:04.13 | fiola | heurist: Yep. Haven't heard of anyone taking the long-term vision and considering "How does FOSS *really* fix this, properly?" |
| 16:04.48 | ManoftheSea | heurist, thank you for making me aware that things call bash directly. I am disappoint |
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| 16:05.05 | heurist | fiola: FOSS can not fix humans doing what is easy now and ignoring the consequences. it is called hyperbolic discounting. |
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| 16:05.38 | fiola | heurist: In engineering, it's called rank amateurism :-( |
| 16:05.46 | ManoftheSea | fiola, I've heard the long term vision... one problem pointed out was that bash's change tracker looks like "patch x; patch y; patch z" with no explanation of what or why |
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| 16:06.11 | heurist | !ot |
| 16:06.11 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
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| 16:08.42 | BrianR___ | In Wheezy, which packages are recommended for hybrid suspend? |
| 16:09.18 | colo-work | what is hybrid suspend? that strange windows 8 thingie? |
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| 16:10.00 | ManoftheSea | where it writes to disk, as suspend, but only goes to sleep? |
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| 16:10.17 | BrianR___ | hybrid suspend is where a memory image is written to disk, then the system is put to sleep. If the battery runs down or there is a power outage, the system resumes from the on-disk image. |
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| 16:11.10 | BrianR___ | It looks like uswsusp is pretty obviously half-baked, for example it can't resume from a swap file on LVM. |
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| 16:14.13 | jelly | BrianR___: OTOH, who puts swap files on lvm? If you have LVM you can allocate a whole LV for swap |
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| 16:14.53 | jelly | sometimes good enough is just that |
| 16:15.05 | BrianR___ | If you pick the "entire disk with LVM" option during the install, your swap will wind up on something like /dev/mapper/foobar-swap |
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| 16:15.39 | BrianR___ | So I guess that's an entire volume... But anyway, you can't resume from that. |
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| 16:18.19 | BrianR___ | (I agree resuming from an actual file is a more complicated issue, since it requires mounting the filesystem which contains it, which in some filesystems there are bugs which cause write I/O when mounting the filesystem RO, which may cause corruption if the filesystem was also mounted by the suspended system) |
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| 16:29.54 | ManoftheSea | BrianR___: Why can't you resume from LVM? |
| 16:30.03 | ManoftheSea | I'd have thought the issue was writing before sleep... |
| 16:30.10 | BrianR___ | resume image isn't found for some reason. |
| 16:31.04 | ManoftheSea | you've got a "resume=/dev/hostname/swap" or "resume=/dev/mapper/hostname-swap" in the cmdline? |
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| 16:38.03 | ManoftheSea | You might also confirm that it's being written. I have no idea how to do that, though. |
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| 16:41.06 | Okee | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:42.40 | nkuttler | Okee: hm? as in... for your file browser? |
| 16:43.52 | Okee | nkuttler> I have a bunch of jpegs and gifs, and would like to enlarge them with mouse over. I am checking the repos, and there is a lot of stuff, but hard to tell which might work. There is gnome-nds=thumbnailer and gnome-=xcf-thmbnailer, etc. |
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| 16:44.53 | fiola | There used to be a "magnify" program for X11 that worked as a mouse-focused enlarger, but can't seem to find it though. |
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| 16:47.42 | heurist | fiola: xzoom, kmag, gnome-mag ? |
| 16:47.43 | fiola | There are four #*-accessibility channels in freenode's channel list, in case you don't get the question answered here. |
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| 16:48.09 | fiola | heurist: Those sound right, yeah |
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| 16:55.19 | fiola | A "mouse finder" would be useful too, as on a large screen with a lot going on, it can be hard to detect a moving mouse pointer. I think Macs have something like that built in, a light yellow circular area around the pointer. |
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| 16:56.28 | makalu | I have installed libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 and when I check installed files in synaptic, it tells there's a /usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libGL.so.1 but it doesn't exist? |
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| 17:00.16 | makalu | oh it's in some kind of mesa-diverted |
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| 17:16.12 | MouseTheLuckyDog | Whenever I update/install/remove an apt package it seems to take a lot of resources to use the database. Is there a way to "clean up"/defrag the database? |
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| 17:24.09 | yerst | hey |
| 17:24.21 | yerst | does anybody of you have 2 graphic cards? |
| 17:24.43 | yerst | i'm talking about that intel + amd or nvidia card |
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| 17:26.50 | DanteLA | I ran this on wheezy 64-bit: apt-get install libSDL1.2-dev:i386 and apt started to remove all/most? packages from my system. So was it this command or so bad configuration elsewhere that causes this? |
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| 17:34.09 | DanteLA | Ok, seeing it re-installs packages with apper upgrade, it was probably just part of an update |
| 17:34.11 | BrianR___ | ManoftheSea: Figured it out. Was pretty awful :( |
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| 17:35.18 | BrianR___ | ManoftheSea: Apparently nothing set RESUME= anywhere. Now uswsusp doesn't use the value of RESUME= for anything, but the initramfs does use it to make the logical volume containing the resume image available :( |
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| 17:36.07 | BrianR___ | (Complicating things, uswsusp reads its own configuration file /etc/uswusp.conf to determine what block device contains the resume image that will actually get used for resuming the system) |
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| 17:37.58 | ManoftheSea | ok |
| 17:38.04 | ManoftheSea | good job |
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| 17:38.47 | gregor3000 | hello how do i remove the software raid 1 during install? |
| 17:39.01 | ManoftheSea | gregor3000: shotgun. |
| 17:39.05 | gregor3000 | i can erase data but how tdo remove the raid array to setup a new one |
| 17:39.21 | ManoftheSea | you could dd over the first Meg or so of each disk. |
| 17:39.34 | ManoftheSea | possibly the end. Depends on your raid? |
| 17:39.38 | gregor3000 | why is there no option to remove the raid array? |
| 17:39.42 | ManoftheSea | In what? |
| 17:39.44 | gregor3000 | 2 disks, raid 1 |
| 17:39.48 | ManoftheSea | debian-installer? |
| 17:39.48 | gregor3000 | in installer |
| 17:39.59 | gregor3000 | yes |
| 17:40.35 | ManoftheSea | Ah. Because it makes certain assumptions, and sometimes you can't go back "before" a question. Drop to a shell, wipe over the disks, restart the installer, try again |
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| 17:45.10 | russoisraeli | hello guys. I have a quick question. For some reason my Debian installations cease to find any new updates after some period of time. I' |
| 17:45.21 | russoisraeli | any idea why that might happen? |
| 17:45.35 | russoisraeli | they start finding updates again after major version upgrade |
| 17:46.36 | russoisraeli | I have 7.6 with that issue |
| 17:48.02 | gregor3000 | oh i had to configure it first in order to delete it yes it makes sense... :-O |
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| 18:07.10 | DanteLA | If I run 'apt-get install libsdl1.2-dev' then 64-bit versions of everything is installed and 32-bit removed. If I run 'apt-get install libsdl1.2-dev:i386' then 32-bit version of everything is installed and 64-bit removed. Is this how multiarch is supposed to work? |
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| 18:13.50 | efe | hi all. I can't play a DVD on debian. I've installed libdvdcss2 , and now when I choose DVD from the player the program closes. Any ideas ? |
| 18:14.06 | Coudy | jelly-home: Hi, are you here ? |
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| 18:15.42 | efe | no ideas? |
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| 18:17.33 | Coudy | efe: which program do you use ? try vlc or smplayer2 |
| 18:17.49 | efe | guys I can't play DVD eventhough I have libdvdread4 installed |
| 18:17.53 | efe | vlc doesn't play it . |
| 18:18.00 | efe | Coudy: vlc can2t play it |
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| 18:19.31 | Coudy | efe: try run vlc from terminal with params -vvv and search for errors |
| 18:20.45 | efe | Coudy: vlc just turns off as I choose the dvd |
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| 18:20.56 | efe | Coudy: same thing happens with movie player |
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| 18:22.39 | ghoulsblade | hi all, i have a debian box that has internet via wlan stick and want to use it as a kind of "router" to allow another computer connected via ethernet cable to it to access the internet, what's that called or what kind of software do i need to read up on for that ? |
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| 18:23.13 | Coudy | efe: try this https://wiki.debian.org/MultimediaCodecs |
| 18:23.35 | cra1g321 | efe got libdvdcss2 installed ? |
| 18:24.06 | efe | cra1g321: I've tried to install it. however I can't see it in installed packages |
| 18:24.58 | heurist | ghoulsblade: gateway, NAT and IP forwarding are the research terms that suite your query best. |
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| 18:25.19 | cra1g321 | efe how did you install it ? |
| 18:26.05 | efe | cra1g321: oh handled it . Thank you |
| 18:26.26 | efe | cra1g321: I was typing the password of normal user for gdebi package installer . |
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| 18:26.53 | efe | cra1g321: I've just installed it with super user |
| 18:26.56 | efe | cra1g321: now it works. |
| 18:26.59 | cra1g321 | ok |
| 18:27.01 | efe | Coudy: thank you |
| 18:27.04 | efe | cra1g321: thanks |
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| 18:36.02 | ghoulsblade | thanks heurist =) |
| 18:36.02 | ManoftheSea | Which is preferred in Debian: MIT or Heimdal Kerberos? |
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| 18:41.31 | daidalos | is there a date set for jessie become stable? |
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| 18:41.52 | ManoftheSea | daidalos: When blocking bugs == 0 |
| 18:42.11 | daidalos | I see. No date |
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| 18:42.44 | daidalos | I read somewhere around Dec 14 but don't remember where |
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| 18:43.18 | ManoftheSea | Is Jessie Frozen? |
| 18:43.23 | heurist | daidalos: not likely that soon. freeze will be Nov 5, then a few months to get it working. |
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| 18:43.54 | heurist | https://release.debian.org/jessie/freeze_policy.html |
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| 18:44.05 | dondelelcaro | daidalos: it'll most likely be in the February->April timeframe, possibly later |
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| 18:44.16 | daidalos | that explains a lot. I probably remember reading about freeze in late 14 or something |
| 18:44.41 | daidalos | thx |
| 18:44.51 | dondelelcaro | daidalos: right. We freeze, and then update only for bugfixes, basically |
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| 18:48.09 | daidalos | heurist: thx useful (unless heurist is a bot) |
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| 18:52.50 | JordiGH | How do you prevent dpkg from starting or stopping daemons? |
| 18:53.22 | heurist | daidalos: heurist feels like a bot most of the time. how can you tell the difference? |
| 18:53.51 | Martiini | what is * search called? I mean searching with half a word .. like ap-get remove libre* |
| 18:53.55 | Ad1_RnR | hi |
| 18:54.39 | gcbirzan | globbing? |
| 18:55.13 | Stummi | Martiini, pattern |
| 18:55.32 | Ad1_RnR | does anybody know why i've got ldap_sasl_bind(SIMPLE): Can't contact LDAP server (-1) message from working OpenLDAP server? |
| 18:55.41 | Stummi | * is an asterisk, "libre*" an glob-pattern and applying this pattern is called globbing |
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| 18:56.06 | Martiini | Stummi, wildcard search .. I wanna find internet seach with wildcard serch capabilities |
| 18:56.20 | Ad1_RnR | when i put ldapsearch -x -b "dc=firma,dc=local" command, then it show me correct informations from my domain |
| 18:56.36 | Stummi | Martiini, what? |
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| 18:56.53 | Ad1_RnR | but when I'm trying to import users and groups, then i've got this message: ldap_sasl_bind(SIMPLE): Can't contact LDAP server (-1) |
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| 18:57.16 | Ad1_RnR | does anybody know, where could be problem? |
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| 18:58.11 | awc737 | Hey this command is not working as expected. I want to output the Instance ID to PID file, and not have the final output hang |
| 18:58.12 | awc737 | nohup /usr/bin/java -jar -Xms512m -Xmx2048m start.jar & echo $! > /var/run/"$INSTANCE".pid > log.txt 2>&1 & |
| 18:58.24 | awc737 | right now it leaves me with nohup: appending output to `nohup.out' |
| 18:58.31 | daidalos | heurist: you can't... but being a bot is not a bad thing at all. Just a different life form. I have respect for all life forms |
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| 18:59.06 | RoyK | awc737: echo $!> |
| 18:59.10 | RoyK | no space there |
| 18:59.21 | heurist | daidalos: guess I passed the Turing test. |
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| 18:59.57 | MV48 | I'm on a debian server. I have a user/SSH account that is shared for this server. When an employee leaves, how would I "refresh" this SSH account should the old public keys don't work and new keys have to be generated? |
| 19:00.13 | MV48 | so that*** |
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| 19:00.53 | heurist | MV48: make each user have their own key and then remove the key of the user from the authorized_keys file |
| 19:01.29 | daidalos | heurist: you did. of course I had to read what Turing test is on wikipedia ... |
| 19:01.47 | awc737 | RoyK now it's writing the PID into log.txt, and hanging on "Writing to nohup.out" |
| 19:01.48 | awc737 | nohup /usr/bin/java -jar -Xms512m -Xmx2048m start.jar & echo $!> /var/run/"$INSTANCE".pid > log.txt 2>&1 & |
| 19:02.26 | MV48 | heurist: thanks for the response. I follow you. So all I have to do is remove their public key from the authroized_keys file? Don't have to do anything else like change that unix account's password? |
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| 19:02.44 | RoyK | awc737: hm... sorry - I misread |
| 19:03.07 | awc737 | my command is close I htink... |
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| 19:03.41 | RoyK | awc737: but something > /some/log 2>&1 & should work, and the next command should be echo $? > pidfile |
| 19:03.59 | RoyK | then you'll have the logs and the pid separately |
| 19:04.09 | awc737 | hmm, not sure which command goes first |
| 19:04.17 | heurist | MV48: make sure the password is disabled. passwd -l $user but remember that if you let them log in they can enable the password again, and they can add more pub keys to authorized_keys, so you need to keep checking those things. better to give each user their own account so you have better control. |
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| 19:04.30 | RoyK | awc737: erm - isn't this a shellscript? |
| 19:04.34 | awc737 | yeah |
| 19:04.35 | rlex | hello, does debian supports booting from mdraid with metadata 1.2? |
| 19:04.41 | rlex | Or i still need to use 0.9? |
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| 19:04.49 | RoyK | awc737: then the command above is run first :P |
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| 19:05.22 | RoyK | awc737: bash doesn't fork out things unless you ask for it |
| 19:05.28 | awc737 | but how to get PID from previous line, to next line |
| 19:05.40 | RoyK | echo $? |
| 19:05.42 | awc737 | http://pastie.org/9628806 |
| 19:05.43 | RoyK | erm |
| 19:05.44 | RoyK | sorry |
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| 19:06.28 | heurist | awc737: pid of previous process is $$ is it not? |
| 19:06.42 | RoyK | awc737: somecommand ... ; echo $! |
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| 19:07.10 | awc737 | ah,, I think I got it by switching the echo to log and echo to PID file |
| 19:07.23 | awc737 | look correct? nohup /usr/bin/java -jar -Xms512m -Xmx2048m start.jar > log.txt 2>&1 & echo $!> /var/run/"$INSTANCE".pid |
| 19:07.26 | MV48 | heurist: Sounds good. This is a production server so we don't really want to have individual accounts on there. If I under correctly, all I have to do is remove their public key from the authorized_keys file, change the shared users account, and tell everyone else the new password? |
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| 19:07.57 | RoyK | awc737: looks ok |
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| 19:08.16 | awc737 | lol all this is foreign / guessing to me 2>&1 & echo $!> |
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| 19:08.44 | heurist | MV48: no, you tell no one the password. they all use keys to log in only. no need for a password on the account at all. |
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| 19:10.30 | MV48 | heurist: okay. And what is stopping the employee that left to just run ssh-copy-id against the server so their public key is readded? |
| 19:10.31 | heurist | MV48: still having separate accounts would be better, allows you to track who did what. look at using a locked down sudo for actions that require higher privileges. |
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| 19:11.30 | heurist | MV48: they can not log in once you remove their key, they need to log in to add the key. you would need a mechanism for adding the keys, maybe they email the admin the .pub file. |
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| 19:15.27 | MV48 | heurist: okay, I see what you mean. So individual accounts it is |
| 19:15.28 | MV48 | Got it |
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| 19:29.05 | zeto28 | is there a reason there's no coreutils-dbg package provided for Wheezy? TIA. |
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| 19:32.00 | fiola | "<heurist> daidalos: heurist feels like a bot most of the time. how can you tell the difference?" |
| 19:32.08 | fiola | Hahahaha --- gave me a good laugh :-) |
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| 19:38.15 | Janusz1 | Hi. Is there a way to check what is depending on installed package? |
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| 19:41.32 | Brigo | Janusz1, apt-cache rdep <package> |
| 19:41.59 | Janusz1 | thanks |
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| 19:43.01 | JordiGH | aptitude also has `aptitude why foo` which I think is kind of handy. |
| 19:43.08 | JordiGH | Does rdep check recommends: too? |
| 19:43.56 | Brigo | i forgot `aptitude why foo`, better choice, yes. |
| 19:44.12 | rlex | ok. I'm trying to convert system from one-disk root to mdraid. Created arrays, copied data, adjusted grub but i can't boot to new system |
| 19:44.24 | rlex | ls in grub shows me no sign of md* devices |
| 19:44.34 | Janusz1 | Ok, any idea how to solve this? http://pastebin.com/JGbGvMuJ |
| 19:44.45 | rlex | any ideas? |
| 19:44.53 | JordiGH | !any ideas |
| 19:44.53 | dpkg | Yeah, I have an idea! But I'll need a sack full of rutabagas, a little thermal paste, and a handful of starving kittens. And keep the Cabal off my back for the next few minutes! |
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| 19:46.10 | JordiGH | Janusz1: Are you on testing? |
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| 19:46.36 | meaneye_ | I saw that I got Xwayland with update. Does that mean Debian Testing will use it by default. |
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| 19:46.41 | Janusz1 | JordiGH: nope, I am on stable |
| 19:46.42 | fiola | gives dpkg a couple of rutabagas. Not a lot, but it's a start. |
| 19:47.06 | Janusz1 | JordiGH: but its possible that something was updated to testing when I was trying to migrate |
| 19:47.12 | Janusz1 | don't remember now |
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| 19:47.16 | JordiGH | Janusz1: But are you trying to install a mixed system? libxml-libxml-perl on stable doesn't have that dependency... |
| 19:47.20 | JordiGH | Okay, so you have a mixed system. |
| 19:47.37 | Janusz1 | is there a way to downgrade those packages? |
| 19:47.49 | JordiGH | http://www.quickmeme.com/img/0e/0ec1ec8730480a933aa778cf1ea6359313e9ac8493f4301dcd2565116743c09f.jpg |
| 19:48.16 | jhutchins | rlex: I know there is documentation on how to do this corectly. |
| 19:48.19 | Brigo | meaneye_, hardly |
| 19:48.36 | meaneye_ | Brigo, okay. Thanks. |
| 19:48.40 | Brigo | Janusz1, uninstall them and reinstall from wheezy. |
| 19:48.59 | jhutchins | rlex: I would speculate that you need to get the mdraid driver and configuration into the initrd image. |
| 19:49.02 | Brigo | meaneye_, np :) |
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| 19:49.14 | meaneye_ | One can hope (dream). |
| 19:49.19 | dondelelcaro | rlex: this is grub2, right? |
| 19:49.27 | rlex | dondelelcaro yes |
| 19:49.34 | dondelelcaro | rlex: and have you insmod the grub raid modules? |
| 19:49.42 | rlex | jhutchins: raid and mdraid09 modules are inserted |
| 19:49.45 | rlex | dondelelcaro: yes |
| 19:49.53 | rlex | this is HP proliant if it makes any sense |
| 19:50.06 | dondelelcaro | rlex: and this is linux software raid, right? |
| 19:50.23 | dondelelcaro | rlex: OK. let me back up; where does the boot fail currently? |
| 19:50.40 | rlex | dondelelcaro: it cannot detect disk (set root=('md0)) |
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| 19:50.53 | rlex | if i switch to grub console, it shows me only hd0, hd1, etc |
| 19:50.55 | dondelelcaro | rlex: ok. So your problem is with grub configuration, not the initramfs |
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| 19:51.15 | rlex | no md partitions (should be two, one for swap and one for root) |
| 19:51.18 | guk | hmm |
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| 19:51.31 | dondelelcaro | rlex: what does insmod mdraid1x; in the grub console do? |
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| 19:51.54 | rlex | shows me fd0, fd1 erros |
| 19:52.03 | rlex | i assume it loaded correctly |
| 19:52.12 | rlex | metadata is 0.9 btw so i load ndraid09 |
| 19:52.15 | rlex | *mdraid09 |
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| 19:52.51 | Janusz1 | Brigo: ok, and is there a way to uninstall them without uninstalling packages that depend on them? |
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| 19:53.45 | Brigo | Janusz1, if you know what you are doing, search in the dpkg manual for --force |
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| 19:54.42 | Eduard_Munteanu | Is there some documentation on whether apt-get download/source checks (source) package signatures? |
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| 19:55.46 | Blacklite | how do i figure out what dns caching system my system is using? |
| 19:56.07 | Janusz1 | Brigo: ok, thanks |
| 19:56.13 | towo` | D-Boy, |
| 19:56.31 | jhutchins | Blacklite: Are you sure it's using one? |
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| 19:56.36 | towo` | D-Boy, sorry wrong focus |
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| 19:56.54 | Brigo | Janusz1, np :) |
| 19:57.03 | Blacklite | jhutchins |
| 19:57.09 | Blacklite | it's got some MX records cached |
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| 19:57.21 | Blacklite | when i view in dig, it says ;; SERVER: 127.0.0.1#53(127.0.0.1) |
| 19:57.51 | Blacklite | i know the mx records have been updated on the dns server, i have checked on my local machine and on another server with the same ISP using the same nameservers |
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| 19:59.32 | Blacklite | i've read around and it seems there is no OS-level cache |
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| 20:00.13 | dondelelcaro | rlex: ok, and then you should be able to load raid1rec or whatever you need |
| 20:00.34 | dondelelcaro | rlex: at that point the md devices should be there |
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| 20:03.40 | jhutchins | Blacklite: Probably nscd then. |
| 20:03.44 | rlex | dondelelcaro: one sec |
| 20:03.50 | Blacklite | it's not installed |
| 20:03.59 | jhutchins | Blacklite: ps ax | grep nscd or service nscd status |
| 20:04.11 | Blacklite | nothing |
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| 20:04.42 | jhutchins | Blacklite: Did you set up a caching server with bind9? |
| 20:04.47 | Blacklite | ps didn't show any processes, and service nscd status didn't return anything at all |
| 20:05.04 | jhutchins | Blacklite: How about dnsmasq? |
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| 20:05.12 | Blacklite | how do i check those? |
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| 20:05.34 | Blacklite | dnsmasq: unrecognized service |
| 20:05.59 | jhutchins | Blacklite: dpkg -l | p dnsmasq |
| 20:06.09 | jhutchins | Blacklite: dpkg -l | grep dnsm |
| 20:06.15 | jhutchins | Bad vpn, sorry. |
| 20:06.16 | Blacklite | nothing |
| 20:06.18 | Blacklite | np |
| 20:06.28 | jhutchins | Blacklite: dpkg -l | grep pdnsd |
| 20:06.41 | Blacklite | nothing |
| 20:06.52 | rlex | dondelelcaro: no raid1rec |
| 20:07.12 | Blacklite | also the TTL is set to 4 hours, so even if it was being cached, it should have reset by now. the change was made 2 weeks ago |
| 20:07.22 | Blacklite | also if i do dig <domain> +trace |
| 20:07.32 | Blacklite | it shows the correct information, as i believe +trace forces it to not use a cache |
| 20:07.50 | jhutchins | pastebin nsswitch.conf |
| 20:07.58 | jhutchins | Blacklite: And resolve.conf |
| 20:08.03 | qman__ | Blacklite: netstat -plan | grep :53 |
| 20:08.26 | Blacklite | jhutchins: just a min |
| 20:08.32 | Blacklite | qman__: i get 6 results |
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| 20:08.50 | Blacklite | 3 tcp, 3 udp |
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| 20:08.56 | dondelelcaro | rlex: ah; it probably isn't required then... I mistakenly thought there was a raid1 equivalent of the raid6 lvm modules |
| 20:09.05 | dondelelcaro | rlex: anyway, do you now see any md devices? |
| 20:09.10 | Blacklite | my ip:53 |
| 20:09.14 | rlex | dondelelcaro: nope, not in grub |
| 20:09.17 | Blacklite | 127.0.0.1:53 and :::53 |
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| 20:09.33 | rlex | booted to old (non-raid) env and they assembled and ready to go |
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| 20:09.48 | dondelelcaro | rlex: hrm. but you do see the underlying devices on which the raid devices are, right? |
| 20:10.02 | dondelelcaro | rlex: and I'm assuing that /boot is on raid, right? |
| 20:10.02 | rlex | dondelelcaro: yes |
| 20:10.21 | Blacklite | http://pastie.org/private/qtf9px8ku2fc6b58porrpg |
| 20:10.23 | dondelelcaro | rlex: and you see the partitions on which the raid devices are located? |
| 20:10.26 | Brigo | Blacklite, netstat -ptanl |
| 20:10.28 | rlex | dondelelcaro: yes, all files (except some on SSDs but that's a different story) in one partitions |
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| 20:10.53 | Blacklite | "named" |
| 20:11.02 | Blacklite | that must be it |
| 20:11.06 | Blacklite | runs under a user called "bind" |
| 20:11.08 | dondelelcaro | rlex: and is this a GPT or DOS partition table? |
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| 20:11.16 | rlex | dondelelcaro: DOS |
| 20:11.19 | dondelelcaro | rlex: cool |
| 20:11.23 | Blacklite | /usr/sbin/named -u bind |
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| 20:11.46 | jhutchins | Blacklite: Somebody set up a Bind9 DNS server then. Need to keep better config/maintenance logs. |
| 20:11.50 | Brigo | Blacklite, that is the excutable of bind9 |
| 20:11.52 | Eduard_Munteanu | Is there some documentation on whether apt-get download/source checks (source) package signatures? |
| 20:12.04 | Blacklite | yep, i wonder why.. |
| 20:12.20 | Blacklite | we're moving all our servers to amazon / saltstack so they keep the same packages |
| 20:12.34 | Blacklite | but this is one of the old ones that still has the old stuff, set up by people who didn't really care |
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| 20:12.51 | Blacklite | oh well, thanks a lot for the help |
| 20:12.58 | qman__ | Blacklite: just means the server is running bind |
| 20:13.16 | qman__ | You'll have to diagnose the bind configuration |
| 20:13.59 | Eduard_Munteanu | I think I'll pretend they don't check signatures. Any tool that does? |
| 20:14.06 | Blacklite | hah |
| 20:14.14 | dondelelcaro | rlex: and you've done something like grub-install --recheck /dev/sda; recently, right? |
| 20:14.23 | Blacklite | yep - it's got its very own set of records for this domain |
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| 20:14.28 | rlex | dondelelcaro: sure. |
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| 20:15.41 | jhutchins | Blacklite: That may be what provides local resolution. |
| 20:15.55 | Blacklite | yes - almost definitely |
| 20:16.06 | dondelelcaro | rlex: OK. You might want to try it again, and/or paste the output of grub-install --debug --recheck /dev/sda; on whatever the two root devices are |
| 20:16.10 | Blacklite | it's specifically set up to cache this stuff |
| 20:16.16 | jhutchins | Blacklite: Forensic administration is one of my favorite chores. |
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| 20:16.29 | Blacklite | :) |
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| 20:16.42 | Blacklite | i wonder if maybe it's webmin doing this |
| 20:16.54 | Eduard_Munteanu | aptitude's manpage doesn't say either. |
| 20:16.55 | jhutchins | Blacklite: That was the best practice solution for a long time, to have an in-network caching DNS server that could also provide DNS for local machine addresses. |
| 20:17.06 | Eduard_Munteanu | Anything else other than apt-get, aptitude and wajig? |
| 20:17.07 | Blacklite | yea but surely it should update when the TTL runs out |
| 20:17.23 | jhutchins | Blacklite: God I hope it's not webmin. Webmin just plain doesn't work. |
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| 20:17.33 | Blacklite | yeah it is running webmin |
| 20:17.42 | jhutchins | Blacklite: If the local bind has an entry for a server it won't time out unless the configuration file is changed. |
| 20:17.46 | Blacklite | ah |
| 20:17.54 | jhutchins | Blacklite: Webmin could screw that up though. |
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| 20:18.03 | rlex | dondelelcaro: http://pastebin.com/xLCY1XJm |
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| 20:18.41 | Eduard_Munteanu | Ok, this is frustrating. No tool to check sigs, no docs on whether core tools check sigs, WTF is wrong? |
| 20:18.52 | Blacklite | most ISPs have local nameservers now |
| 20:19.10 | Blacklite | so all the servers on the network use the same ones, which cache results |
| 20:19.11 | Blacklite | as it seems |
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| 20:25.39 | subz3r0 | Blacklite: never seen anytime where ISPs havent got their own nameservers |
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| 20:25.48 | ZenWalker | hi |
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| 20:26.17 | subz3r0 | lo |
| 20:26.28 | ZenWalker | the numbers on "free -m" are MiB or MB ? |
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| 20:26.54 | dondelelcaro | rlex: hrm. and you're running the grub install from the working non-raid environment? |
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| 20:27.29 | dondelelcaro | rlex: I see it finding the raid array, but only one drive of it, and it also doesn't seem to be installing the mdraid driver into the grub image |
| 20:27.30 | abrotman | win 1 |
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| 20:28.33 | dondelelcaro | abrotman: lose 1 |
| 20:28.48 | abrotman | seriously |
| 20:28.59 | abrotman | dpkg: dondelelcaro++ |
| 20:29.20 | abrotman | forgets the bot has karma |
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| 20:30.27 | rlex | dondelelcaro: yes, i created degradated raid |
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| 20:30.36 | rlex | that's on purpose |
| 20:30.38 | dondelelcaro | rlex: heh; OK. |
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| 20:30.51 | teraflops | ZenWalker: you can append a -h to that -m |
| 20:31.17 | ZenWalker | tera Mem: 3,9G |
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| 20:31.27 | ZenWalker | but, G = GiB or GB ? |
| 20:31.35 | teraflops | gigabytes |
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| 20:32.58 | Blacklite | rndc restart |
| 20:33.02 | Blacklite | rndc: 'restart' is not implemented |
| 20:33.04 | Blacklite | .. |
| 20:33.06 | teraflops | ZenWalker: also read the manpage |
| 20:33.09 | abrotman | stop start? |
| 20:33.10 | sysvalve | ZenWalker: G is a standard that defines a million of something |
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| 20:33.14 | sysvalve | Gigameters |
| 20:33.16 | sysvalve | GigaBytes |
| 20:33.24 | sysvalve | gigawhatever |
| 20:33.26 | teraflops | -gb -mb -kb |
| 20:33.38 | Blacklite | rndc: connect failed: 127.0.0.1#953: connection refused |
| 20:33.48 | Blacklite | uh oh |
| 20:33.50 | dondelelcaro | rlex: can you chroot into the degraded raid environment, and install from there? |
| 20:33.53 | sysvalve | GiB is what some years ago someone tried to standarize all the 1024 factors out there |
| 20:34.11 | sysvalve | so they came up with the "bi" thing: Gi (giga) bi (binary) whatever |
| 20:34.15 | ZenWalker | system monitor of mate, shows 3,9 GiB |
| 20:34.18 | sysvalve | aka Gi-bi-bytes (gibibytes) |
| 20:34.24 | sysvalve | Me-bi-bytes (Mebibytes) |
| 20:34.25 | sysvalve | et al |
| 20:34.35 | dondelelcaro | rlex: that might clear this up. I'm guessing that you have /boot mounted on the non-raid environment, and grub sees that, and recognizes that it doesn't need to load the mdraid stuff |
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| 20:34.51 | quique | in the sudoers file how do i specific a command a user can execute with an argument ie a line like this: user ALL=NOPASSWD: /bin/cat /var/lib/glusterd/glusterd.info |
| 20:35.04 | rlex | dondelelcaro: yes, that's my scenario |
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| 20:35.25 | ZenWalker | thanks all |
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| 20:35.37 | dondelelcaro | rlex: OK. Try mounting the degraded raid, chrooting into it, and running grub there |
| 20:35.48 | sysvalve | quique: that does not work? It should |
| 20:36.00 | quique | sysvalve: no doesn't work |
| 20:36.14 | dondelelcaro | rlex: alternatively, you can use grub-install --boot-directory=/mnt/raidsetup/boot --recheck --debug |
| 20:36.15 | quique | it doesn't give an error, but i get perm denied |
| 20:36.18 | dondelelcaro | rlex: or something like that |
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| 20:36.51 | dondelelcaro | rlex: if it goes well, you should see grub guessing that /boot is on md0 instead of guessing that it's on hd0,msdos1 |
| 20:36.57 | dondelelcaro | (or whatever it was guessing it was) |
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| 20:38.16 | SmileMZ | Hi debian people. |
| 20:38.43 | SmileMZ | I have a small problem. I want to build a plugin for php in a non standard location and get: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lphp5 |
| 20:39.05 | rlex | dondelelcaro: thanks, i will try |
| 20:39.12 | sysvalve | SmileMZ: you need to pass the lib location to your compiler (-L) |
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| 20:40.20 | dondelelcaro | rlex: no problem; good luck! |
| 20:40.55 | SmileMZ | thank you sysalve, I'll give it a try |
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| 20:44.20 | quique | sysvalve: lol I forgot the /usr/bin/sudo on the command, ty |
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| 20:51.16 | Eduard_Munteanu | Huh, I think dpkg-sig does what I want. |
| 20:51.31 | Eduard_Munteanu | I wonder why nobody mentioned it to me. |
| 20:52.29 | crush26 | hey all. I am trying to kill a gnome-termial session, but killing the PID only stops the program running in the gnome-terminal? |
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| 20:53.25 | Eduard_Munteanu | crush26, use, e.g., pstree to find its ancestry |
| 20:53.34 | crush26 | say I have 3 gnome-terminal windows open each running a different command. How would I single one of them out and kill the actual window, leaving the other two open? |
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| 20:55.51 | crush26 | Eduard_Munteanu: ok I ran pstree and I see the ancestory, but how does knowing this info help me close the terminal window? |
| 20:56.31 | KaaK_ | i'm compiling the gnutls28 package (version 3.3.8) and I'm getting all sorts of `symbol missing` errors at the end of the build |
| 20:56.34 | Eduard_Munteanu | crush26, the desired terminal is an ancestor of said process |
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| 20:57.09 | KaaK_ | i've gone through the shared objects, and listed their symbols -- and they are indeed missing |
| 20:57.17 | Eduard_Munteanu | e.g. terminal is parent of bash and bash is the parent of the actual command |
| 20:58.02 | KaaK_ | but i'm a bit confused as why ... they seem like symbols that correspond to pretty core functionality |
| 20:58.10 | Eduard_Munteanu | KaaK_, sounds like missing dependencies, do you have the relevant -dev packages installed? |
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| 20:59.13 | crush26 | Eduard_Munteanu: so to kill the actual window displaying the pstree command I would need a PID right? Which PID would I kill, the bash? |
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| 20:59.38 | Eduard_Munteanu | crush26, bash or the actual terminal process should do |
| 20:59.44 | KaaK_ | Eduard_Munteanu, I do -- all packages listed as build deps are installed |
| 21:00.32 | crush26 | Eduard_Munteanu: thats the thing, I cant see to find the actual terminal process PID running the command |
| 21:00.33 | Eduard_Munteanu | KaaK_, are you building an actual Debian source package or some upstream release? |
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| 21:00.44 | KaaK_ | the actual debian source package |
| 21:01.10 | Eduard_Munteanu | crush26, did you try pstree -p ? |
| 21:01.31 | Eduard_Munteanu | That gives you the PIDs. |
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| 21:02.27 | crush26 | Eduard_Munteanu: heck no...haha thanks. That did it! |
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| 21:02.42 | crush26 | Eduard_Munteanu: you rock! |
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| 21:02.54 | Azrael_- | hi |
| 21:03.00 | Eduard_Munteanu | Sure, no problem. |
| 21:03.03 | Eduard_Munteanu | Azrael_-, hi |
| 21:03.43 | Azrael_- | i want to delete the whole content of a folder with find+rm but want to preserve the original folder. how can i do this? |
| 21:03.50 | crush26 | Eduard_Munteanu: I am scripting this task and I dont think awk will give me the output I need |
| 21:04.10 | Eduard_Munteanu | Oh. |
| 21:04.55 | KaaK | Eduard_Munteanu, http://paste.debian.net/125060/ |
| 21:05.47 | KaaK | that is the first and last 500 lines of the build log -- its too large to upload whole |
| 21:06.08 | Eduard_Munteanu | crush26, try pstree -cps PID |
| 21:06.35 | Eduard_Munteanu | And extract the rightmost terminal. |
| 21:07.20 | crush26 | Eduard_Munteanu: where PID is the actual process ID I want to kill? |
| 21:07.21 | Eduard_Munteanu | -l might be useful too |
| 21:07.35 | Eduard_Munteanu | crush26, the PID of the command whose terminal PID you want to find |
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| 21:09.46 | fiola | Does pstree using some library for its ascii line graphics? I could make of that form of presentation. (ldd shows it's dyn linked to libtinfo, but I don't know what that is.) |
| 21:10.39 | crush26 | Eduard_Munteanu: nah pstree -cps PID does nothing but display the "help" options |
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| 21:11.04 | imsomeoneelse | Hi all, is there a way to background the initial (e.g. boot) dhclient ip assignment so that it doesn't delay boot while waiting for a DHCP assignment from whatever server? |
| 21:11.22 | karlpinc | What's the right place to configure iptable kernel modules? /etc/modules.d/foo.conf? |
| 21:11.42 | Eduard_Munteanu | karlpinc, configure how? |
| 21:11.49 | karlpinc | imsomeoneelse: If you're using the default wheezy install of insserv then it happens automatically. |
| 21:12.02 | karlpinc | Eduard_Munteanu: When the module needs arguments on load. |
| 21:12.08 | fiola | $ pstree -cps | grep console-kit | wc -l |
| 21:12.08 | fiola | 64 |
| 21:12.13 | fiola | "WTF" comes to mind |
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| 21:12.35 | Eduard_Munteanu | crush26, weird |
| 21:12.59 | Eduard_Munteanu | I hope that's not "PID" literally. |
| 21:13.25 | fiola | PID of wanted process, I expect. |
| 21:13.28 | ex-parrot | does https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/ actually track squeeze-lts info? |
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| 21:13.37 | crush26 | Eduard_Munteanu: haha no, I put the actual PID in place of "PID" |
| 21:13.50 | fiola | <pid> :-) |
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| 21:14.59 | jhutchins | fiola: You may prefer ps axf to pstree |
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| 21:16.10 | man-woof | https://lkml.org/lkml/2014/10/7/254 wat |
| 21:16.22 | fiola | OK, anyone wanna explain to me why I have 64 console-kit processes? |
| 21:16.24 | karlpinc | Eduard_Munteanu: Any ideas? |
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| 21:16.38 | crush26 | Eduard_Munteanu: on my OS I have no "-s" flag in the pstree man page |
| 21:16.52 | fiola | jhutchins: yeah, pstree wasn't needed there just to ennumerate them |
| 21:17.17 | Eduard_Munteanu | karlpinc, you want /etc/modprobe.d I think |
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| 21:17.32 | dondelelcaro | man-woof: it's from a known troll, and not really very interesting. |
| 21:17.45 | Eduard_Munteanu | crush26, hm, try without it |
| 21:17.49 | crush26 | Eduard_Munteanu: running "pstree -cp 'PID'" does not provide the needed bash PID to kill the actuall gnome-terminal window |
| 21:17.59 | karlpinc | Eduard_Munteanu: I know! I'll read the README.Debian. That'll tell me if there's a debianized place. |
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| 21:18.12 | man-woof | dondelelcaro: so shim is alive? |
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| 21:19.26 | karlpinc | Eduard_Munteanu: No README.Debian. Must be /etc/modules.d/ then. |
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| 21:20.27 | fiola | dondelelcaro: never heard of that person, but the messenger doesn't affect the message. There are thousands of deeply technical people worried about the whole systemd thing, and pointing at one or two people doesn't make the issue go away. |
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| 21:21.08 | man-woof | as am embedded guy systemd sucks for me because it takes up soo much space |
| 21:21.09 | Eduard_Munteanu | Hrmpf, both "dpkg-sig --{list,verify} DEB" show nothing. |
| 21:21.33 | man-woof | When I only have 16MB flash every KB still matters. |
| 21:21.49 | Eduard_Munteanu | Is there really no way to make sure I got a verified package in Debian? |
| 21:21.50 | bleomycin | anyone ever had an issue using mdadm raid 1 on boot disks, where unplugging one of the disks to simulate a disk failure results in a boot failure with fsck complaining about an unknown drive in fstab (the disk that was unplugged) |
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| 21:26.00 | KaaK | Eduard_Munteanu, the verification is simply the hash of what ever is in the Packages file -- the Package file is in turn hashed and stored in the release file, and finally the release file is signed |
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| 21:26.48 | KaaK | so the only way is to work backwards through the hashes -- individual binary .debs are not signed |
| 21:27.05 | Eduard_Munteanu | KaaK, I know, I was looking for a tool that does that. |
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| 21:27.26 | Eduard_Munteanu | Or some assurance that apt-get {source,download} does the right thing. |
| 21:27.52 | Eduard_Munteanu | Which seems totally undocumented. |
| 21:28.43 | Eduard_Munteanu | The amount of guessing in matters of security here is outrageous. |
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| 21:29.24 | Senji | is there ever a reason to make a hardlink instead of a softlink? |
| 21:29.28 | dondelelcaro | Senji: yes |
| 21:29.38 | Senji | what would that be |
| 21:29.53 | dondelelcaro | Senji: if you want the file to be exactly the same file |
| 21:29.54 | fiola | It's not a Debian issue though. It's FOSS in general. ShellShock has been a wakeup call, but there are many more to come. There's been a lot of wishful thinking. |
| 21:29.58 | Eduard_Munteanu | Senji, linking across a chroot in the same filesystem for example |
| 21:30.12 | fiola | (To |Eduard) |
| 21:30.27 | KaaK | hmm, I wonder if it does check the whole verification chain of hashes for each package that goes through apt |
| 21:30.33 | Eduard_Munteanu | fiola, unfortunately I agree... security practices in distros are awful. |
| 21:30.35 | dondelelcaro | Eduard_Munteanu: I'm not sure if apt-get source checks signatures, but dget does. |
| 21:30.49 | dondelelcaro | Eduard_Munteanu: both it and download should, but I don't use either of them. |
| 21:30.59 | Eduard_Munteanu | Ah, I'll have a look at dget then, thanks. |
| 21:31.02 | dondelelcaro | (and frankly, none of the tools in Debian use them either) |
| 21:31.43 | fiola | Gentoo does at least build everything in a sandbox. Yesterday I hacked the fglrx sources to fix a bug, and was happy with the outcome, but it highlighted that Debian building is not secure. |
| 21:31.47 | Eduard_Munteanu | fiola, 99.9% of distros don't distribute their stuff securely. |
| 21:32.04 | fiola | There's pain ahead. |
| 21:33.05 | dondelelcaro | fiola: most of Debian's packages are built on repeatable, secure environments |
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| 21:33.26 | dondelelcaro | the fact that all of them aren't is a bug, but it's one that we are working on fixing |
| 21:34.40 | dondelelcaro | Eduard_Munteanu: we're pretty concerned about distributing our packages securely... |
| 21:35.27 | fiola | dondelelcaro: The adversary is more sophisticated that it used to be. The fact that everything looks fine on a centralized build system is no guarantee of the same on a user's machine. All sources need to be treated with extreme prejudice. |
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| 21:37.31 | fiola | I think it won't be long before it's realized that every single executable has to run in a jailed container for the package, nothing less. |
| 21:37.32 | Eduard_Munteanu | dondelelcaro, yeah, Debian is one of the few that do it right. |
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| 21:37.50 | Eduard_Munteanu | dondelelcaro, also I don't mean just packages but the install media as well |
| 21:38.01 | dondelelcaro | Eduard_Munteanu: we sign that as well |
| 21:38.43 | Eduard_Munteanu | I know, I filed a bug or two on that some time ago, that got some distribution issues fixed. |
| 21:38.56 | dondelelcaro | fiola: that's basically what selinux and other similar approaches are; we'll probably get there, but considering how difficult it has been to get selinux deployed, I don't think that's going to happen any time soon |
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| 21:39.05 | dondelelcaro | fiola: but if it's something that you're concerned about, please work to make it happen |
| 21:39.22 | dondelelcaro | I'm certain the SELinux and/or apparmor and other projects (including Debian) would love assistance |
| 21:39.26 | imsomeoneelse | karlpinc: I assume so, since I did not install another dhcp client, and interface is setup in /etc/network/interfaces, like "auto eth0" "iface eth0 inet dhcp" |
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| 21:41.41 | fiola | dondelelcaro: happy to help, but I'll spend more time learning about Debian first. Diving in with a "this is wrong" message doesn't help anybody. |
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| 21:48.44 | dondelelcaro | fiola: true, true... but you can learn by jumping in and trying to help! |
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| 21:49.23 | man-woof | I've never seen sel/apparm help in the real world... |
| 21:50.40 | meaneye | Is there a reason why exim4 service on Debian Testing takes 400ms to start? |
| 21:51.28 | petemc | meaneye: do you have an interface up but no working internet connection? |
| 21:51.43 | meaneye | At boot time, I have no idea. |
| 21:52.04 | meaneye | According to systemd analyze command networking should be up by that time. |
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| 21:52.36 | tremon | meaneye: why is 400ms an issue? Are you suggesting it should be shorter or longer? |
| 21:53.13 | meaneye | I find it strange that one service should take the same amount to load as 15 others before combined. |
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| 21:53.30 | meaneye | Am just being inquisitive. |
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| 21:53.40 | meaneye | 3s boot time is more than fast. |
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| 21:54.14 | tremon | if I had to guess, possibly exim is the first program that needs to know the fqdn of the machine. That requires a dns lookup |
| 21:54.23 | jhutchins | meaneye: sendmail used to hang for a really long time if it couldn't find the hostname in the DNS. |
| 21:54.44 | meaneye | jhutchins, thanks. |
| 21:54.50 | meaneye | tremon, could be. |
| 21:54.53 | jhutchins | meaneye: It could be related to ipv6 DNS or even just normal DNS if you don't have a full environment set up. |
| 21:55.06 | jhutchins | meaneye: Is it slow on restart/manual start? |
| 21:55.29 | meaneye | Well, you have to understand that "slow" is relative here. It's mere 400ms. |
| 21:55.31 | Eduard_Munteanu | How do I get an URL for dget? Or perhaps I should just use 'apt-cache showsrc' to get a checksum and check it manually? |
| 21:55.36 | meaneye | Not like 3s or something. |
| 21:55.45 | tremon | man-woof: russell coker used to run one of his selinux test system publicly. He even published the root password, because his policies effectively neutered root access. It's not "helping in the real world", but I thought it was an elegant proof of concept |
| 21:55.46 | petemc | meaneye: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=512206 |
| 21:56.00 | meaneye | Thanks petemc |
| 21:56.11 | meaneye | It's not that long. |
| 21:56.19 | meaneye | Either way, I was just wondering. It's not an issue. |
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| 21:56.34 | man-woof | tremon: well ya, with extremely restrictive permissions it's like running as noone |
| 21:56.36 | petemc | dc_minimaldns='true' should fix it |
| 21:57.34 | fiola | A network service taking 400ms to start is no surprise under any circumstances, unless it's been specifically tailored to employ endpoints with known RTTs and latencies. Speed of light is damned slow, and speed of human-built systems even slower. ;P |
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| 22:01.13 | imsomeoneelse | karlpinc: I assume so, since I did not install another dhcp client, and interface is setup in /etc/network/interfaces, like "auto eth0" "iface eth0 inet dhcp" |
| 22:01.31 | tharkun | I know this is OT but in order to install debian on a new W7 machine I need to make some space for it. Does Windows have a tool to do such thing or do I have to look for a tool within the installer to achieve the goal? |
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| 22:01.47 | Eduard_Munteanu | Looks like there is a mechanism to embed signature into debs but it's not used. |
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| 22:02.51 | tremon | tharkun: you can shrink partitions with Windows' diskmgmt.msc. No moving partitions though. More info can be found in ##windows ;) |
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| 22:03.35 | tharkun | Thanks for the tip will ask there. Sorry for the OT |
| 22:03.36 | tremon | actually, it allows you to extend partitions. Not sure if shrinking is on the menu too |
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| 22:16.36 | franknight3 | Why are there so many lamers out today? |
| 22:16.53 | man-woof | Are you looking for them? |
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| 22:17.17 | Eduard_Munteanu | dondelelcaro, how do you normally use dget to get sources? It seems like I have to come up with the URL myself somehow. |
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| 22:18.46 | Eduard_Munteanu | And I still feel like checking existing .debs some way or another. Perhaps I should use apt-cache show's output to get checksums? |
| 22:19.01 | Eduard_Munteanu | (assuming that's verified data) |
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| 22:26.01 | themill | Eduard_Munteanu: apt does that verification step for you already. /msg dpkg secure apt |
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| 22:32.51 | dondelelcaro | Eduard_Munteanu: apt-cache showsrc foo; will give you the url... but it's pretty easy to come up with it yourself; it's http://http.debian.net/debian/pool/main/e/eglibc/eglibc_2.11.3-4.dsc for example. |
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| 22:52.32 | hramrach_ | what X-free application for handling hotkeys is packaged in Debian? |
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| 22:55.14 | SPepper | probably stable? |
| 22:55.51 | RoyK | man-woof: wheezy uses sysv |
| 22:55.56 | hramrach_ | hmm, triggerhappy |
| 22:56.13 | man-woof | RoyK: ah good, will the next stable also have isos using sysv? |
| 22:56.17 | hramrach_ | now to find if it actually works |
| 22:56.40 | RoyK | man-woof: doubt it - guess systemd is the next up |
| 22:57.39 | SPepper | they're freezing... is it jessie in the near future |
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| 22:57.43 | RoyK | man-woof: systemd has some pretty good things now that it's stabilsed and being used by rhel/centos |
| 22:58.07 | man-woof | RoyK: true, but i have old stuff to run |
| 22:58.28 | RoyK | man-woof: it's still compatible with sysv |
| 22:58.36 | SPepper | Apparently systemD will change everything, it will be like night and day |
| 22:58.59 | man-woof | Change everything, and the user won't notice a thing |
| 22:59.02 | RoyK | SPepper: no, backward compatibility will be retained |
| 22:59.02 | fiola | And systemd has plenty of bad things that have never been addressed. Unless there's a Wheezy LTS, there's going to be a schism. |
| 22:59.29 | dondelelcaro | fiola: if there are bad things that haven't been addressed, please file bugs. |
| 22:59.45 | RoyK | dondelelcaro++ |
| 22:59.53 | SPepper | No, I mean it's supposed to cure the clap, bring about the salvation, finally decide boxers v briefs |
| 23:00.07 | fiola | dondelelcaro: Design bugs are not accepted by the systemd team, you know that. |
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| 23:00.27 | RoyK | fiola: what sort of design bugs? |
| 23:00.39 | dondelelcaro | fiola: if they are design bugs which actually produce real bugs, then file the real bugs. |
| 23:00.53 | fiola | Attack surface area, for instance. It's rejected out of hand. |
| 23:01.05 | man-woof | web server in the initd lol |
| 23:01.09 | RoyK | fiola: what is that? |
| 23:01.15 | man-woof | root kits <3 systemd |
| 23:01.39 | imaami | here we go again |
| 23:01.48 | RoyK | man-woof: rootkits love sysv ;) |
| 23:01.56 | SPepper | oh, I think I heard systemd is supposed to bring about the evolution of man into a higher consciousness |
| 23:02.09 | man-woof | RoyK: at least i know what to watch for :-/ |
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| 23:02.30 | RoyK | mns: please share that |
| 23:02.36 | fiola | Anyone who doesn't understand attack surface and SPoFs shouldn't be talking about alternatives being good or bad. |
| 23:02.58 | RoyK | fiola: please share details |
| 23:03.24 | man-woof | fiola: I have to seal with security in networked industrial gear, size is one thing but safe communication is the other big one |
| 23:03.59 | RoyK | hands man-woof a soldering iron |
| 23:04.21 | man-woof | RoyK: Well, i do work with electronics a lot. |
| 23:04.31 | fiola | man-woof: not only "safe" communications, but the existence of a communications channel in the first place. More inputs == more attack surface. |
| 23:04.58 | dondelelcaro | fiola: if there are specific cases where systemd introduces attack surfaces which can be designed around, file bugs with suggested patches and/or discuss them upstream |
| 23:05.00 | RoyK | what's funny is that all people I've seen in here saying systemd isn't safe haven't come up with practical examples |
| 23:05.12 | abrotman | Please take it somewhere else, or file bugs |
| 23:05.49 | fiola | dondelelcaro: no suggested patches are admitted, you should know that. The interface to the community is a closed door. |
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| 23:06.14 | RoyK | fiola: {{citation-needed}} |
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| 23:07.46 | SPepper | that's actually one of the problems. Doing a codereview of pid 1... |
| 23:07.52 | SPepper | good luck with that |
| 23:08.10 | man-woof | I'm sure Red Hat will get that done for Debian. :) |
| 23:08.32 | man-woof | Also... the bug embargo means RHEL will get fixed before Debian. |
| 23:08.36 | dondelelcaro | folks, the design issues with systemd aren't really on topic here. File bugs if there are bugs, dicuss it upstream, or otherwise take it elsewhere. |
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| 23:08.43 | man-woof | So I might as well use Fedora for security |
| 23:08.45 | fiola | It's rejected out of hand. Some things in engineering are obvious, yet when you mention them all you get in response is "{{citation-needed}}". |
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| 23:09.48 | man-woof | dondelelcaro: I tried to get pulse fixed, nothing got accepted , until potter abandoned the project in 2010, then it improved drastically |
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| 23:10.42 | dondelelcaro | man-woof: please take it elsewhere. |
| 23:11.27 | fiola | It's hard to find something more on topic for #debian than Debian's PID 1. |
| 23:12.48 | Brigo | fiola, of course not, #debian is a support channel, not for chatting. |
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| 23:16.25 | fiola | Brigo: You do realize hopefully that when systemd is off-topic everywhere then it creeps in without rational assessment --- vandalism of Debian by ommission, and quite deliberate. |
| 23:16.37 | franknight3 | I even use BX. |
| 23:16.47 | dondelelcaro | fiola: stop, please. |
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| 23:18.00 | SPepper | wouldn't it make more sense if there were a #debian-support, and a #debian? |
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| 23:18.10 | rww | #debian-offtopic exists. |
| 23:18.39 | SPepper | that's the point. Debian offtopic sounds like it's a place to talk about things not related to debian |
| 23:18.43 | rww | although whether they want to rehash what is probably a very tedious topic by now, is another subject |
| 23:18.46 | berarma_ | maybe a #debian-rants is needed :) |
| 23:19.03 | Brigo | debian-ontopic? |
| 23:19.08 | SPepper | that's probably the debian support chatroom for radioactive ants |
| 23:19.20 | fiola | No, what's needed is #debian-engineering, where engineering issues are the main concern and not dismissed. |
| 23:19.33 | berarma_ | or #debian-trolling |
| 23:19.35 | dondelelcaro | fiola: feel free to create it. |
| 23:19.40 | dondelelcaro | berarma_: please stop. |
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| 23:20.43 | man-woof | On an actual question note: Are there docs on flipping between sysvinit and systemd? And on a less seirous note: #debian-fedora can be for debian testing, #debian-rhel can be for stable |
| 23:21.16 | dondelelcaro | man-woof: you just install systemd-sysv; that's it. |
| 23:21.21 | SPepper | so your idea of discussing the pros and cons of core debian packages is trolling? |
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| 23:24.30 | fiola | dondelelcaro: does installing systemd-sysv uninstall systemd? |
| 23:25.11 | Brigo | fiola, it does not uninstall nothing |
| 23:25.22 | fiola | 3 negatives .... |
| 23:25.30 | RoyK | fiola: doubt it - if you want to get back to the basics, use slackware from 2002 or so |
| 23:25.47 | abrotman | fiola: Seems you'd want to test this, and file bugs if it doesn't work as expected. Good luck |
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| 23:26.26 | fiola | RoyK: no, we're talking about current-day Linux, like Wheezy --- it's not 2002 "back to basics", is it? |
| 23:26.30 | dondelelcaro | fiola: apt-cache show systemd-sysv; for details. The package explains what it does. |
| 23:26.33 | berarma_ | there's good discussions in the Debian wiki |
| 23:26.49 | RoyK | fiola: I'm pulling your leg |
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| 23:28.27 | fiola | Good, I thought as much. So, we're not talking about "back to basics" prehistoric Unix systems, but something as good as Wheezy. And so it's a reasonable question whether installing systemd-initv will replace systemd by SysVinit, or whether systemd is hardwired in for good. |
| 23:28.50 | berarma_ | I'd recommend reading them and discuss in the appropiate channels or file bugs when there's real bugs |
| 23:29.08 | fiola | If "for good", then the response "just install systemd-initv" is clearly a brush-off. |
| 23:29.34 | rww | systemd-sysv is the opposite of what you probably want. |
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| 23:30.08 | rww | it's the package that provides manpages and links to replace sysvinit with systemd. as the package description says. |
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| 23:31.02 | fiola | rww: thanks, so it was a red herring altogether. |
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| 23:31.20 | dondelelcaro | fiola: it's the package you install to switch from sysv to systemd. If you don't want to switch, you don't install it. |
| 23:31.26 | dondelelcaro | fiola: it's pretty simple. |
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| 23:32.11 | dondelelcaro | if you want to switch back, you remove it and install sysvinit-core. |
| 23:32.16 | fiola | It's the opposite direction that concerns people. This conversation started with someone asking about the next version, you may recall. |
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| 23:53.46 | OldGuy | I've been using Mint Linux Mate version (Debian based) for a while. Recently I noticed my system going into a cpu lock cycle and I have to reboot. Anyone else having this problem?? |
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| 23:54.56 | man-woof | probally a screwy driver |
| 23:55.10 | dondelelcaro | !tell OldGuy -about mint |
| 23:55.34 | man-woof | fiola: heh that was me, all i wanted to know was what releases had which |
| 23:55.50 | OldGuy | Mint 17 |
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| 23:56.14 | man-woof | mint 17 is ubuntu... LMDE is debian testing |
| 23:56.17 | man-woof | derp |
| 23:57.05 | OldGuy | OK - sorry - I have two Mint computers. This one is the LMDE version. |
| 23:57.29 | man-woof | Also, I recommend Ubuntu-MATE for MATE (sorry debian, your mate packages are not up to date, yet, that's about to be fixed according to mate maintainer) |
| 23:58.00 | enyc | man-woof: hrrm, even in wheezy-backports? I was just looking into that ... |
| 23:58.24 | OldGuy | I'm going to rebuild the Mate 17 computer, so I may just use Ubuntu Mate. |
| 23:58.34 | dondelelcaro | OldGuy: mint is support in #linux-mint on irc.spotchat.net, not here in #debian. |
| 23:58.39 | dondelelcaro | s/support/supported/ |
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| 23:59.01 | man-woof | enyc: good question, it should be, if not, soon |
| 23:59.41 | OldGuy | I just clicked on the #Chat button on the login page and this is where it took me. I prefer Debian over Ubuntu from past experience |
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