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| 00:14.50 | hikenboot | anyone know of any distro based on debian that will boot from a live cd headless and autoconfigure a vnc server. Have a machine with a dead display due to a bios issue. If I can remote into it. I have a shot of reflashing the bios to fix the problem without replacing cmos chip |
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| 00:16.07 | Wulf | hikenboot: can't you ssh into it? |
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| 00:16.34 | _FBi | haha |
| 00:18.02 | hikenboot | yes I could do that if the live cd wouldnt ask any questions at all and just boot to a desktop |
| 00:18.18 | Wulf | hikenboot: keep pressing return? |
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| 00:18.40 | hikenboot | so the debian live cd will boot to a desktop with just repeated returns? |
| 00:18.56 | Wulf | why do you need a "desktop"?! |
| 00:19.21 | Wulf | I'd probably run grml, and there I believe it is mostly "return" |
| 00:19.23 | hikenboot | well now that you suggest it I wouldnt I suppose if I am using ssh... |
| 00:19.30 | hikenboot | thanks |
| 00:19.47 | hikenboot | will it configure networking as well |
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| 00:20.16 | hikenboot | ssh is no good if networking isnt auto detected and dhcp address picked up |
| 00:21.06 | hikenboot | well I guess I can try it in a virtual machine before running it on the laptop in question...thanks |
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| 00:21.48 | _FBi | hikenboot, I know pentoo would boot you into command |
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| 00:22.15 | hikenboot | ok i will look at that as well...thanks guys this saves me some time |
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| 00:24.18 | _FBi | same with Kali linux -- Debian based ;) |
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| 00:25.55 | pclover | is chkconfig installed by default or no? |
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| 00:28.16 | heurist | pclover: "default" is a difficult term with debian, there are lots of choices. do you have a specific reason for asking? |
| 00:28.28 | pclover | nah just was curious |
| 00:28.33 | pclover | say a desktop install |
| 00:29.35 | heurist | pclover: apt-cache rdepends chkconfig suggests probably. |
| 00:29.44 | themill | no, it wouldn't be. It's not a particularly useful tool anyway once you've got dependency based boot |
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| 00:31.05 | pclover | just use to it from red hat land |
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| 00:32.15 | heurist | pclover: I was reading that wrong, the only thing on my system that depends on it is system-config-audit, so it would not be. |
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| 00:32.32 | pclover | Ah thanks |
| 00:32.41 | pclover | hopefully this does not start a war but is the next release of debian going to use systemd or still TBD? |
| 00:32.51 | heurist | pclover: systemd |
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| 00:33.09 | pclover | i'm scares to to use that word as i think it will cause a flame word |
| 00:33.11 | pclover | scared |
| 00:33.17 | pclover | war gah can't type |
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| 00:33.41 | heurist | pclover: the peasants are always scared of the new technology, it looks like magic. |
| 00:34.01 | pclover | i've not had to many issues with it. Was affected by a bug but that was fixed |
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| 00:36.02 | pclover | just use to typing in service and chkconfig so it's a change for me |
| 00:36.29 | themill | "service" still works |
| 00:36.40 | pclover | it does but redirects to systemctl |
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| 00:38.20 | heurist | pclover: at least with everyone using systemd all the distros will use systemctrl (en|dis)able instead of the fragmented update-rc.d, chkconfig, rcconf confusion. (: |
| 00:38.36 | pclover | that is a benefit |
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| 01:20.19 | hesco | I seem to be chasing dependencies in circles. https://gist.github.com/hesco/85f8a6d36df2caaf9f05 Can anyone please advise what I'm looking at and how I might resolve this please? |
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| 01:22.30 | qman__ | You've gotten your system into a catch-22 situation. You can download that package externally from packages.debian.org and install it, but I'm more concerned with how you managed to do that in the first place, and what else might be broken. You may also have a case of !frankendebian going on. |
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| 01:26.08 | hesco | qman__: A member of our team went down to the data center with a freshly burned usb key to perform a base install this afternoon. I ran my puppet bootstrap script and when I applied the manifest the first time, I immediately ran into this issue. Nothing installs because its all waiting on apt-get, apt-get is waiting on apt-transport-https, which is waiting on apt-get update. |
| 01:26.48 | qman__ | ah, that's a bit better than the other possible scenarios |
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| 01:27.26 | qman__ | hesco: you can download the deb from here (assuming wheezy): https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/apt-transport-https |
| 01:27.35 | qman__ | then dpkg -i apt-tansport-https.deb |
| 01:27.53 | unclezipper | Curious how that happened |
| 01:27.54 | trem0r | ^-- this |
| 01:27.55 | hesco | so I add the package to my filestore and munge it in, I guess. Thanks for the clue. |
| 01:28.28 | qman__ | after that, assuming nothing else is missing, apt should work |
| 01:28.30 | unclezipper | Is there a package for Enlightenment wm available for Wheezy? |
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| 01:30.42 | jpleau | hesco: you likely have an https line in /etc/apt/sources.list - when it happened to me, I replaced https:// to http:// (of course if you really need https, this is not an acceptable solution..) |
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| 01:32.13 | Brigo | unclezipper, no, but you can use blackbox or fluxbox |
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| 01:33.28 | hesco | jpleau: Couldn't I simply replicate that line, and pull from both port 80 and 443 at the same time? |
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| 01:33.51 | unclezipper | Brigo: Already using fluxbox, just wanted to see if I liked Enlightenment any better. Gonna try to install the Jessie package and see if that could save me some time over compiling from source |
| 01:34.01 | jpleau | hesco: there's one way to know! |
| 01:34.12 | Brigo | unclezipper, ok, good luck :) |
| 01:34.47 | hesco | got it, will do that then |
| 01:35.17 | unclezipper | Thanks |
| 01:35.23 | heurist | ,checkbackport e17 |
| 01:35.24 | judd | Backporting package e17 in sidâwheezy/i386: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libeina-dev (>= 1.7.10), libeet-dev (>= 1.7.10), libevas-dev (>= 1.7.10), libecore-dev (>= 1.7.10), libefreet-dev (>= 1.7.10), libedje-dev (>= 1.7.10), libedbus-dev (>= 1.7.10), libeeze-dev (>= 1.7.10) [linux-any], libeio-dev (>= 1.7.10), libedje-bin (>= 1.7.10). |
| 01:35.35 | heurist | unclezipper: judd says good luck too. |
| 01:35.49 | unclezipper | I see this |
| 01:36.18 | unclezipper | There's another e17 in Sid that's the same version as Jessie, though... what gives there? |
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| 01:36.46 | heurist | unclezipper: jessie and sid normally have the same versions. |
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| 01:37.15 | trist4n | i keep getting ipv6 addresses appearing in my eth0 (there are about 5 there now), but i cant figure out exactly how they're getting there |
| 01:37.25 | trist4n | nothing configured explicitly in network/interfaces |
| 01:37.36 | unclezipper | heurist: Brain fart... I was thinking Sid was the previous version |
| 01:38.00 | tharkun | Is there an option to gcc for C compiling under debian? |
| 01:38.21 | heurist | unclezipper: not your fault, codenames confuse everyone, "the last one" is called lenny here all the time to. |
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| 01:40.23 | hesco | jpleau: only https in sources.list.d/ is the docker repo. I'm guessing this package ought to come from the main repos though, not out of the docker one |
| 01:40.46 | hesco | perhaps I'm mistaken on that one. Trying to grab the deb next. |
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| 01:41.28 | heurist | hesco: disable the docker repo and see if things start working. |
| 01:41.33 | jpleau | hesco: apt-get probably fails where there's one repo that can't be fetched |
| 01:41.37 | jpleau | (apt-get update, that is) |
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| 02:20.01 | dvs | !qotd46 |
| 02:20.02 | dpkg | <js_> is it very unsafe to resize my / partition with parted while its mounted? |
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| 02:29.56 | richac | dvs: what do you mean? |
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| 02:30.28 | dvs | richac: tell dpkg to hold a package. |
| 02:30.32 | themill | richac: it might be worth your while explaining what you're really trying to do |
| 02:30.52 | richac | themill: huh? |
| 02:31.19 | richac | themill: i compiled a package for gradm2, but apt-get upgrade whats to upgrade it, i want it to ignore it |
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| 02:31.59 | themill | richac: did you set a different version number for your own version of the package? |
| 02:32.07 | richac | dvs: tks man |
| 02:33.00 | dvs | np |
| 02:33.08 | richac | dam it didn't work, i tried apt-mark hold gradm2 |
| 02:33.29 | richac | : Executing dpkg failed. Are you root? but I did it as root? |
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| 02:35.53 | richac | oh crap it was the RBAC haha |
| 02:36.03 | richac | i have to try to fine tune it |
| 02:36.32 | richac | i gotta say though its alot easier then selinux |
| 02:36.40 | richac | ok now the old worked |
| 02:36.48 | richac | *hold |
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| 02:37.28 | richac | for some reason the gradm2 package that comes with debian looks makes a grsec2 directory even though the kernel patch looks for grsec directory |
| 02:37.44 | richac | i'm not sure why that is |
| 02:38.07 | dvs | what kernel patch? |
| 02:38.18 | richac | grsec |
| 02:38.42 | tharkun | gedit used to be the default editor for gnome. I believe it is no longer. since it didn't get installed with gnome-task. Which is the default editor for Gnome now? |
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| 02:39.27 | richac | tharkun: I thought it stillw as |
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| 02:39.58 | tharkun | richac: I thought so but it does get pulled so it is not the default :( |
| 02:40.08 | richac | tharkun: oh |
| 02:40.15 | richac | dvs: i highly recommend it, very easy security |
| 02:40.52 | richac | you just install paxctl and gradm, and next i'm going to try to use them with apparmor, so without selinux not missing out on much security |
| 02:41.21 | richac | selinux would take the place of gradm and you can' use apparmor with it I believe |
| 02:41.50 | themill | tharkun: task-gnome-desktop Recommends gnome; gnome Depends gedit |
| 02:42.44 | tharkun | themill: So my installation is incomplete? Should I just install gnome now? |
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| 02:43.12 | themill | tharkun: which installer image did you use? |
| 02:43.42 | tharkun | netinst but networking failed so I ended up with a minimal install and began from there. |
| 02:44.03 | themill | jessie? |
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| 02:44.15 | themill | and then you used tasksel? |
| 02:44.17 | tharkun | no wheezy. Then upgraded to jessie |
| 02:44.24 | dvs | richac: Meh, I'm the only one that has access to my computer. |
| 02:44.59 | richac | dvs: huh? |
| 02:45.10 | hesco | heurist, jpleau: thanks for the hint. Been kicking it old school. Just wrote five File[] resources and five Exec[] resources chasing the dependency chain on this one so I could get this node built tonight. seems to be working now. Has not error'd out yet, we shall see. |
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| 02:45.58 | tharkun | themill: no, I actually used aptitude and seleceted task-gnome-desktop which pulled task-desktop and after that and looking several hours how to make wheezy use the right kernel module I went to the easy solution Going into jessie. |
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| 02:46.29 | tharkun | themill: should I just install the gnome package now? |
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| 02:46.59 | themill | tharkun: sure. You might only want a subset of it, but installing the gnome package should be fine |
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| 02:56.59 | wsky | 04:49:52 -!- Cannot join to channel #debian (Channel is full) |
| 02:57.14 | wsky | why theuser limut varies here? |
| 02:57.18 | wsky | limit* |
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| 02:57.27 | phy1729 | to prevent join floods |
| 02:57.34 | wsky | i see |
| 02:57.48 | phy1729 | debhelper ups or downs the limit every so often |
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| 02:58.07 | wsky | well, after the freenode breakage it was set to a valiue that prevented my client from rejoining |
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| 02:58.34 | wsky | so, that's a downside of it |
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| 02:58.56 | heurist | wsky: yes, you were part of the flood it was preventing. |
| 02:59.03 | phy1729 | yeah but it's usually temporary |
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| 02:59.57 | rww | wouldn't +j serve the same purpose? |
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| 03:03.41 | heurist | rww: yeah, +j could probably do the job, and would avoid the constant spamming of "Mode #debian [+l 1363] by debhelper" |
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| 03:39.34 | faekjarz | hi, i've got 3 different ethernet controllers (all different vendors): how to figure out which if(eth0, eth1, eth2) is assigned to which ethernet controller? |
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| 03:40.16 | eth2 | faekjarz, you can plugin a cable and use ethtool to determine where the link is up |
| 03:40.36 | eth2 | or you can check the udev rules |
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| 03:44.19 | faekjarz | eth2: the udev rules told me the modules - works for me, thx :) |
| 03:44.56 | eth2 | np |
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| 03:45.36 | Okee | Would someone tell me the correct pin command, and where it should be entered, so that I can install npm in Debian linux stable? npm is in testing, and there is no backport. I need npm and worshopper for a class I am taking. https://github.com/rvagg/learnyounode |
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| 03:45.57 | eth2 | npm comes with noe |
| 03:45.59 | eth2 | node* |
| 03:46.31 | eth2 | must depend on the exact release |
| 03:46.51 | eth2 | http://antler.co.za/2014/04/install-node-js-npm-on-debian-stable-wheezy-7/ |
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| 03:52.35 | Okee | eth2> I get the following error message: update-alternatives --install /usr/bin/node nodejs /usr/bin/nodejs 100 |
| 03:52.59 | Okee | eth2> According to Reisio in #linux, npm is now bundled with node.js, but the site you provided me seems to indicate otherwise. |
| 03:54.33 | eth2 | did you try to manually compile it? |
| 03:54.54 | Okee | eth2> Looks like nodejs wasn't installed at all, so I am doing that now. Sorry about that. |
| 03:55.01 | eth2 | yea |
| 03:55.04 | eth2 | it might come in with npm |
| 03:55.06 | eth2 | or might not |
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| 03:58.06 | Okee | eth2> ok, I tested it, and it appears to be working |
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| 04:02.50 | Okee | eth2> Got it everything is working, A OK. |
| 04:03.17 | eth2 | cool |
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| 04:15.18 | Bluewolf | Hey all, how do I install a .bin file through the terminal, its location is in my Downloads folder. (http://www.savagexr.com/download.html) |
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| 04:17.07 | wols_ | Bluewolf: probably by running "sh file.bin" |
| 04:17.40 | Bluewolf | wols_: I will give it a try, on moment. |
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| 04:20.49 | Bluewolf | wols_: This came as a shock? - http://paste.debian.net/126040/ |
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| 04:21.34 | wsky | Bluewolf: try chmod +x ./xr_* && ./xr_setup-1.0-cl_lin_prod.bin |
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| 04:23.38 | wols_ | wsky: this does the same |
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| 04:23.54 | wsky | i see. welp, then the install script might be outdated. |
| 04:23.58 | wols_ | Bluewolf: less <file.bin> and tell us what the first line is please |
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| 04:24.15 | wsky | wols_: actually no |
| 04:24.20 | wsky | wols_: it does not say the same |
| 04:24.28 | wsky | wols_: s/say/do/ |
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| 04:24.52 | wsky | wols_: because you specifically chose to use sh to ran the install script |
| 04:25.00 | wsky | wols_: and it might use another shell |
| 04:25.09 | wsky | or even stuff like perl |
| 04:25.13 | wols_ | wsky: yes, but normally the first line of the installer would be #!/bin/sh |
| 04:25.18 | wsky | i know |
| 04:25.20 | wsky | normally |
| 04:25.29 | wols_ | at which point sh or bash doesn't matter |
| 04:25.45 | wsky | but it's the binary blob world and you could expect anything |
| 04:26.09 | Bluewolf | wols_: Okay - chmod +x ./xr_setup-1.0-cl_lin_prod.bin (Did not work): sh xr_setup-1.0-cl_lin_prod.bin (Did not work ether) ./xr_setup-1.0-cl_lin_prod.bin (Has worked, it is now installing) |
| 04:26.15 | wols_ | hence, I want to see line #1 |
| 04:26.41 | wsky | Bluewolf: great, but still you could show us the first line of the file |
| 04:26.57 | wsky | Bluewolf: out of curiosity |
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| 04:28.58 | Bluewolf | wsky: You have me lost on first line of the file, in the terminal (There is no output?) |
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| 04:29.36 | wsky | blue just type 'head -n1 xr_setup-1.0-cl_lin_prod.bin' |
| 04:29.43 | wsky | Bluewolf: ^ |
| 04:30.00 | wsky | and paste the output here |
| 04:30.00 | jrgill | I'm running a live CD in memory and seems all SysRq events besides sync are disabled. Any way I can recover or at least write out my unsaved data? |
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| 04:31.52 | Bluewolf | wsky: There you go, good luck understanding that. Oh and it has installed successfully - http://paste.debian.net/126041/ |
| 04:31.55 | Bluewolf | :D |
| 04:32.18 | wsky | Bluewolf: so it's entirely binary |
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| 04:32.40 | wsky | Bluewolf: you can see the header there, it says ELFLinux |
| 04:32.48 | wsky | it's the Linux binary format |
| 04:33.13 | Bluewolf | wsky: So what got you interested, whats your line of though? |
| 04:33.18 | Bluewolf | Im lost? |
| 04:33.50 | wsky | Bluewolf: there rest is binary data that the first "line" contains |
| 04:34.23 | wsky | Bluewolf: yeah, we wanted to know what method the file uses initiate |
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| 04:34.40 | wsky | to initiate* |
| 04:34.52 | Bluewolf | wsky: Ah okay got it, slam to the forehead :D |
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| 04:34.58 | wsky | welp, the .bin filename expansion should give us a clue anyway |
| 04:35.07 | wsky | it's the .run files that use shell scripting |
| 04:35.45 | wsky | but .bins maybe could do that too, well, teh filename extension does not really matter on Linux |
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| 04:37.09 | Bluewolf | wsky: Okay so the game is installed but it does not want to run/execute? |
| 04:37.38 | wsky | what does the output say when you try running it? |
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| 04:37.48 | cafuego | file foobar-wibble-1.0.bin |
| 04:37.56 | cafuego | See what it says it is. |
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| 04:39.48 | Bluewolf | wsky: Ah what's the command to run it again? |
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| 04:40.22 | wsky | you're asking me? you just instalkled it. Locate the executable and run it. |
| 04:40.28 | wsky | installed. |
| 04:40.53 | wsky | i don't even know what is that game |
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| 04:41.21 | Bluewolf | wsky: I did try and run it, I know where the executable is. I am trying to run it through the terminal to get an error for you? |
| 04:41.34 | wsky | well are you? |
| 04:44.13 | Bluewolf | wsky: I don't know how to run it through the terminal, what is the command to run it? |
| 04:44.47 | wsky | Bluewolf: you just type the path to the binary |
| 04:45.01 | wsky | /path/to/the/file |
| 04:45.01 | wols_ | cafuego: is file always installed by default? |
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| 04:45.23 | wsky | wols_: afaik it's a part of coreutils |
| 04:45.53 | wsky | no, it's not, humm |
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| 04:47.59 | Bluewolf | wsky: Thanks, http://paste.debian.net/126044/ |
| 04:48.36 | wsky | Bluewolf: apt-get install libxft2 |
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| 04:50.05 | Bluewolf | wsky: Now would be the time for me to say that I am using backports - http://paste.debian.net/126046/ |
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| 04:50.26 | wsky | hum |
| 04:50.37 | wsky | maybe it requires libxft1 |
| 04:50.48 | Bluewolf | I will try? |
| 04:50.59 | wsky | there is no such package in debian |
| 04:51.00 | wsky | wait |
| 04:51.12 | wsky | show output of dpkg -L libxft2 |
| 04:51.18 | wsky | (on the pastebin) |
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| 04:51.55 | wsky | maybe it will be sufficient to just link the lib to the desired file |
| 04:52.12 | Bluewolf | wsky: http://paste.debian.net/126047/ |
| 04:52.56 | wsky | Bluewolf: what is this game called? |
| 04:53.16 | wsky | what's the name of it? |
| 04:53.50 | Bluewolf | wsky: Savage XR - http://www.savagexr.com/download.html |
| 04:54.18 | Bluewolf | wsky: I have the second one installed and it runs off a .bin while this one runs on a.sh |
| 04:54.27 | Bluewolf | Savage 2 that is |
| 04:55.03 | wsky | try: ln -s /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXft.so.2.3.1 /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXft.so.2 |
| 04:55.08 | wsky | and run it again |
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| 04:56.06 | yates | does debian / apt call the systemd journalctl utility something else? apt-cache search journalctl returns nothing. |
| 04:56.18 | Bluewolf | wsky: ln: failed to create symbolic link `/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXft.so.2': File exists |
| 04:56.27 | wsky | hum |
| 04:56.44 | wsky | then my guess is that it's looking for the lbrary in a wrong place |
| 04:57.07 | wsky | also, the game might be 32bit so you might need multilib |
| 04:57.15 | wsky | because your os is 64bit |
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| 04:57.41 | wsky | don't ask me about this since i never ran multilib consciously |
| 04:58.04 | Bluewolf | wsky: Ah I won't, I have no clue ether |
| 04:59.03 | Bluewolf | wsky: Okay well, I need to go. I will be back later |
| 04:59.44 | Bluewolf | wsky: Thank you for your time and help ;-) |
| 04:59.53 | wsky | np;hf |
| 05:00.05 | Bluewolf | Always |
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| 05:00.25 | yates | apt/journalctl? |
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| 05:03.22 | cafuego | wols_: I believe so |
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| 06:15.34 | folivora | Hi, is there fix for this bash: Linux host 3.2.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.2.57-3 i686 GNU/Linux | bash 4.3-9.2 | Debian Wheezy 7.6 |
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| 06:20.41 | john_rambo | I want to use the Mate desktop .... Didnt find an iso ... Is Mate available under Debian stable ? |
| 06:20.46 | shai | Hi ;) I have a deb file and I want to see what version and iteration is has .. how can i get that from the file? |
| 06:21.32 | jelly-home | folivora: that's not the version from wheezy. Did you mix in newer repositories at some point? Pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy bash libc6" and "apt-cache policy" |
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| 06:24.19 | narbeh | shai: extract it, you will see file containing version |
| 06:24.37 | shai | narbeh, actuall .. dpkg --info ; just found that out ... |
| 06:24.43 | shai | thanks anyways :) |
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| 06:25.51 | shai | odd thing is, that i don't see that in the help ... dpkg --help doesn't have the --info option |
| 06:26.23 | shai | oh its there .. but not in detail ... |
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| 06:26.30 | shai | Use dpkg -b|--build|-c|--contents|-e|--control|-I|--info|-f|--field| |
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| 06:31.30 | OldParr | where can i get hptalx in rpm to install it on debian by means of alien ... |
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| 06:35.51 | OldParr | being accustomed to debian is difficult to know where is the right rpm to install in your debian system |
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| 06:39.08 | somiaj | OldParr: you are really streatching your luck thin to find someone who knows where to find such a thing here. I recall looking at that software and it really just isn't used much (hence why it was removed from debian). Did the packages you find on snapshot.debian.org not work? Did you try to get the source package and compile it? |
| 06:39.10 | folivora | jelly-home: ehh, somehow the security list file for apt was *****, after fixing that I did receive needed security patches |
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| 06:40.57 | OldParr | somiaj: thank you for your propheticals words, but compiling is totally difficult for me |
| 06:42.26 | OldParr | somiaj: i am going to visit snapshot.debian.org |
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| 06:44.47 | OldParr | somiaj: i tried to install a .deb i found in archive.debian.org using gdebi but i found a unsatisfied dependency |
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| 07:27.23 | optraz | in gnome, there is this window pop up saying wait a short while or force the application to quit entirely. is there a way to increase the wait time, it is gettin very annoying |
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| 07:36.20 | hollusion | ./nw: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by ./nw) |
| 07:36.21 | hollusion | ./nw: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.15' not found (required by ./nw) |
| 07:36.33 | hollusion | does this mean that my kernel version is too low? |
| 07:37.03 | hollusion | sorry i mean libc version |
| 07:37.06 | bolt | did you compile that yourself, or did you just download a binary? |
| 07:37.16 | hollusion | downloaded a binary |
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| 07:37.30 | bolt | compile whatever it is instead |
| 07:37.37 | bolt | it was compiled against a library you don't have |
| 07:37.50 | hollusion | i see, is there a simple way to compile and create a deb? |
| 07:38.03 | bolt | checkinstall, perhaps |
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| 07:38.10 | hollusion | alright, thank you |
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| 07:42.35 | talin | hmm, i am having some problems during install |
| 07:42.43 | talin | i got the 7.6.0 netinst iso |
| 07:42.59 | talin | "warning: mirror does not support the specificed release (wheezy)" |
| 07:43.06 | talin | is what i see on the error console during installation |
| 07:43.15 | talin | during the select mirror phase |
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| 07:48.41 | jelly-home | talin: pick a different mirror |
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| 07:49.49 | jelly-home | talin: or type http://http.debian.net/debian/ in the manual config option |
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| 07:52.48 | optraz | in gnome, there is this window pop up saying wait a short while or force the application to quit entirely. is there a way to increase the wait time, it is getting very annoying. anyone? |
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| 07:54.27 | bolt | I have a sources.list with a single line, "deb http://ftp.no.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free". When I run apt-get update, it attempts to download "http://ftp.no.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/contrib/binary-i386/Packages". It gets a 404. My other machines attempt to get the .gz, which exists. Why is this one using the uncompressed version? |
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| 07:55.12 | themill | It isn't necessarily. apt is looking for that resource and will look for a variety of different compression types |
| 07:55.43 | bolt | oh |
| 07:55.46 | bolt | W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.no.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/contrib/binary-i386/Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 128.39.3.170 80] |
| 07:55.49 | bolt | this is what it gives me |
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| 07:56.13 | Iridos | optraz, what's annoying about that? it only asks that when you want to close a program and it doesn't react for quite a bit |
| 07:56.36 | themill | bolt: yeah, you need «apt-get -o 'Debug::Acquire::http=true' update» to see what it's actually trying to download |
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| 07:57.26 | themill | bolt: I'm assuming you haven't actually disabled apt from using compressed Packages files |
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| 08:02.50 | bolt | themill: i haven't done that, no :) |
| 08:03.16 | bolt | themill: it would seem that machine is dealing with some transparent proxy i didn't know about. i'll investigate further. thanks for the debug statement. really helpful. |
| 08:03.26 | themill | ah fun |
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| 08:04.14 | optraz | Iridos: i have a few applications which need a few seconds to execute, and over time, this get annoying. i dont get this during gnome2. |
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| 08:04.46 | Iridos | optraz, close them from their own menues or with kill from the shell, then |
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| 08:07.28 | optraz | lol |
| 08:07.35 | optraz | no, that's not the solution Iridos |
| 08:08.09 | optraz | Iridos: do you know where to increase the wait time so it take more seconds to elapse before popup? |
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| 08:37.25 | Iridos | optraz, no... that might even be hard-coded... but you can also run just a plain windows-manager that doesn't have those pop-ups |
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| 08:43.27 | afsal | how to help debian to test latest version. I'm willing to help debian to test latest packages. So where I start? |
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| 08:45.24 | phanter | hi. I have some cron jobs writing their results to /usr/bin/mail. Is there a gui interface to read those mails (i realy hate the /usr/bin/mail interface and controls) |
| 08:46.28 | jelly | phanter: alpine and mutt are still text-based but somewhat more friendly |
| 08:46.46 | meaneye_ | Really to /usr/bin? |
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| 08:46.52 | Iridos | afsal, run sid and have fun finding broken packages every day? there's #debian-next on irc.oftc.net which more focuses on testing/sid |
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| 08:48.33 | Iridos | afsal, https://wiki.debian.org/DebianUnstable#FAQ might be a starter |
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| 08:49.25 | Iridos | afsal, and... iirc the next freeze is scheduled in a somewhat near future... then bug-hunting for the next release will begin |
| 08:49.28 | Iridos | dpkg, freeze |
| 08:49.28 | dpkg | The 'freeze' is when large changes to testing version of Debian are stopped for few months. During this period, no new package uploads are made except to fix critical bugs or to provide documentation updates. During the freeze, bugs are squashed to 'stabilize' the release to make the new 'stable'. Wheezy was frozen on June 30, 2012. Also ask me about <slushy>, <jessie freeze>. |
| 08:49.37 | Iridos | dpkg, jessie freeze |
| 08:49.38 | dpkg | Remember, remember, the fifth of November, gunpowder treason and plot! Debian 8.0 "Jessie" will be frozen on 2014-11-05 after which no new versions of packages will enter the release and a period of intense bug fixing begins. See http://release.debian.org/jessie/freeze_policy.html or ask me about <slushy>. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunpowder_Plot |
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| 08:50.00 | Iridos | quite soon, actually :) |
| 08:50.16 | Iridos | much sooner than I had thought |
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| 08:51.04 | afsal | I know my question is stupid, but I've a doubt. 'Testing' means using that package? and finding bugs?? |
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| 08:51.50 | Iridos | afsal, then maybe http://release.debian.org/jessie/freeze_policy.html is a better starter |
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| 08:52.30 | optraz | Iridos: plain windows manager? |
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| 08:53.54 | Lope | I've created a script inside /etc/init.d/ that sets some iptables rules. Currently my script runs after libvirt-bin. I want it to run before libvirt-bin. How can I make that happen? |
| 08:53.59 | afsal | I know my question is stupid, but I've a doubt. 'Testing' means using that package? and finding bugs?? |
| 08:54.03 | Iridos | afsal, there are three repositories for debian... unstable, testing and stable. stable is... stable, it doesn't get any new versions, only bugfixes. unstable gets any completely new and untested package... when a package has been in unstable for a certain time without any serious bugs being reported, it automatically migrates to testing. every 3ish years, the testing repository is frozen and an attemt is made to remove as many bugs from it as possible ("al |
| 08:54.03 | Iridos | l") and then all bugs are removed, the then-tested testing is released as the next stable version of debian |
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| 08:54.30 | Iridos | optraz, yes... in contrast to a desktop environment... like openbox |
| 08:55.27 | optraz | hmmm |
| 08:55.36 | optraz | demote gnome and promote openbox |
| 08:55.36 | optraz | heh |
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| 08:55.57 | phanter | yes, thanks. Alpine is perfect! |
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| 08:56.21 | _rsc` | hi |
| 08:56.56 | Iridos | optraz, openbox --replace & # will switch to openbox if you have it installed |
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| 08:57.15 | Iridos | optraz, gnome-shell --replace& # will switch back to gnome-shell |
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| 09:01.10 | Lope | okay I've added: "# X-Start-Before: libvirt-bin libvirtd" hopefully it will do the trick. |
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| 09:13.05 | Iridos | xen_roger, well... http://wiki.squid-cache.org/SquidFaq/SquidAcl#How_do_I_implement_an_ACL_ban_list.3F |
| 09:13.17 | Iridos | doesn't seem so and I think there's a good reason for it |
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| 09:21.51 | Lope | I've created an init.d script to set some rules, and I've set it to X-Start-Before: ifupdown and libvirt-bin libvirtd. And that's working great. But after my init.d script runs, and after the libbirt stuff runs, SOMETHING ELSE runs and sets everything to ACCEPT. How can I find out what is doing it? I've uninstalled ufw which came with Linux Mint by default. |
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| 09:27.34 | Iridos | dpkg, mint |
| 09:27.34 | dpkg | Linux Mint is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Please use their forums at http://forums.linuxmint.com/ or join #linuxmint-help on irc.spotchat.org for support. Linux Mint is variously based on <Ubuntu> with a "Linux Mint Debian Edition" (LMDE) also available, based on <testing>. See also <based on debian>, <mintppc>. |
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| 09:31.58 | xen_roger | Iridos: who should this help me? did I miss something? |
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| 09:35.52 | ws2k3 | hello, i just compiled mysql but when i wanne start it ti says [....] Restarting mysql (via systemctl): mysql.serviceFailed to issue method call: Unit mysql.service failed to load: No such file or directory. |
| 09:36.59 | ChrisH | ws2k3: sounds like something [TM] is wrong... but why do you not use the packaged mysql from repos? |
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| 09:37.32 | ws2k3 | i am compiling mariadb cause i wanne have the control over which versions i run |
| 09:38.02 | ChrisH | Well, then this is not the correct channel to ask. |
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| 09:38.25 | ws2k3 | well i was wondering if it might had soemthing to do with jessie cause on wheezy i never saw this error before |
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| 09:43.46 | ChrisH | ws2k3: to me this sounds more like an issue with the compiled binary and stuff around. |
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| 09:44.13 | Pascal_1 | hello |
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| 09:44.41 | Pascal_1 | i've got a problem when i try to upgrade : aptitude safe-upgrade give me this error : |
| 09:44.45 | talin | jelly-home: i get the same error |
| 09:44.45 | Pascal_1 | Unable to resolve dependencies for the upgrade: no solution found |
| 09:44.57 | optraz | Iridos: thank you but i'm not intend to switch to other desktop environment / window manager yet. i like to know how to increase the waiting time for the app |
| 09:44.59 | Pascal_1 | have you got also this problem ? |
| 09:45.48 | talin | whatever mirror i choose during installation, i keep getting "warning: mirror does not support the specified release (wheezy)" |
| 09:45.49 | Pascal_1 | the end of the message : Unable to safely resolve dependencies, try running with --full-resolver. |
| 09:46.07 | talin | does this mean everyone who gets the netinst iso on debian.org is unable to install it? |
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| 09:52.15 | jelly | talin: it's just you. Could there be a transparent proxy somewhere between you and mirrors. or a network misconfiguration? |
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| 09:53.06 | talin | jelly: hmm, messing around on console indicates that it's a DNS-problem. i can ping stuff by IP, but not hostname. thanks for the help |
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| 10:06.12 | Iridos | optraz, as I pointed out, you can switch dynamically between the two. And ... well, to find out, get the source of gnome-shell and find the bit of code that generates the message. My guess would be that such a thing as this is not configurable, so all you need to do to change it is to edit the source and recompile gnome... should be fun |
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| 10:10.32 | anikras | hello, i have a virtualbox machine with database mysql |
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| 10:10.53 | anikras | when i try connect from my computer with workbench |
| 10:10.58 | anikras | i have this error |
| 10:11.12 | anikras | ERROR local variable 'chan' referenced before assignment |
| 10:11.36 | likecolacola | Hey... my primary OS have "always" been debian stable, now i installed Windows 7 as secondary(for windows classes requirement at University) and now it will load automatically so i can't access my debian |
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| 10:12.00 | likecolacola | since my primary OS(debian) and all the data i have there is important for me, it would be great to have some guidance |
| 10:12.20 | anikras | likecolacola, yo need restore grub |
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| 10:12.33 | anikras | with livecd |
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| 10:12.59 | day | what happens if i change my repos to testing but leave the kernel sources repo on stable? |
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| 10:14.55 | likecolacola | anikras, ok... thanks |
| 10:15.58 | anikras | likecolacola, you're welcome |
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| 10:18.53 | likecolacola | anikras, sir... i have the debian stable cd here, seems like it has no cd boot feature... but in advance mode it has options like rescue mode etc |
| 10:19.00 | wols_ | !tell likecolacola about fixgrub |
| 10:19.28 | wols_ | likecolacola: rescue mode will work too. so will the normal install mode (you press ctrl+alt+f2 and have a different console) |
| 10:19.54 | wols_ | day: it might work or might not. why can't you use a testing kernel? |
| 10:21.02 | anikras | likecolacola, i don't rememeber exactly |
| 10:21.16 | day | wols_: i was just wondering what would happen |
| 10:21.27 | wols_ | day: it simply might not boot |
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| 10:23.39 | likecolacola | anikras, it's okey |
| 10:23.45 | likecolacola | wols_, thanks very much too :p |
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| 10:26.00 | optraz | Iridos: no, it isn't |
| 10:26.01 | optraz | hehe |
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| 10:40.54 | emaia | hi all. What is the best tool to monitor the disk ? |
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| 10:42.15 | likecolacola | wols_, anikras thanks a lot for the support... it's now restored, i reinstalled grub on /dev/sda and then boot debian and did update-grub, it recognized Windows and now it all works perfectly |
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| 10:43.08 | anikras | perfect |
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| 10:55.05 | tuor-work | hi, do someone know a better documentation then: http://libvirt.org/sources/virshcmdref/html-single for virsh? |
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| 10:56.28 | Mathisen | everytime i restart my apache i get " [warn] _default_ VirtualHost overlap on port 443, the first has precedence " i cant locate the problem |
| 10:56.35 | Mathisen | anyone that can help me out ? |
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| 10:57.44 | ChrisH | Mathisen: you could start with: cd /etc/apache2/sites-enabled ; grep "VirtualHost" * |
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| 11:00.00 | Mathisen | yeah i can what i need to remove but im not realy good on this .. |
| 11:00.10 | Mathisen | i can see * |
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| 11:00.40 | Mathisen | i have default-ssl that is good but i also have rt and i want to remove that one |
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| 11:00.53 | Mathisen | im not using it |
| 11:01.13 | Mathisen | but if i remove rt from /etc/apache2/sites-enabled apache wont start |
| 11:01.23 | Mathisen | so how do i disable it |
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| 11:11.03 | coudy | hi, I have hosts in ldap, when I use ping, or getents hosts, I can get IP, but it does not work with command host or nslookup |
| 11:11.13 | coudy | what else should I setup ? |
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| 11:14.37 | capuchin | Running Sid on my laptop. Just did an upgrade. Gnome's lock screen is nuts. It just flickers, saying "Authentication Failed". I can't type more than a couple of characters in the password field before it clears. |
| 11:15.11 | capuchin | I can get in by deleting my dotfiles, but as soon as they're recreated and the screen locks, I'm back in the same boat. |
| 11:15.16 | petn-randall | coudy: host/nslookup strictly do DNS lookups, they don't use other means. What is the problem you're seeing? |
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| 11:15.44 | SynrGy | capuchin: see #debian-next @ irc.oftc.net for unstable support. |
| 11:15.49 | petn-randall | capuchin: Try #debian-next on irc.oftc.net, where jessie/sid are supported. |
| 11:15.58 | petn-randall | jinx |
| 11:16.02 | SynrGy | :p |
| 11:16.10 | Iridos | or maybe #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
| 11:16.11 | capuchin | Sure. Didn't know which version of gnome is in stable v. unstable. |
| 11:16.32 | coudy | petn-randall: ping myhost is working, but host myhost or nslookup myhost return not found.. I'm using dnsmasq as DNS, in nsswitch.conf I have hosts: files ldap dns |
| 11:16.58 | coudy | petn-randall: is there a way how to tell dns to look into ldap ? |
| 11:17.17 | petn-randall | coudy: Works as expected AFAICS. If you want to use DNS lookups, you have to set up DNS. |
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| 11:18.06 | petn-randall | coudy: Your question doesn't make much sense. DNS and LDAP are two different ways of resolving hostnames. |
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| 11:20.39 | coudy | petn-randall: I want to have only 1 location where to store hostnames, and I prefer LDAP, dnsmasq does not support LDAP, so maybe I should change DNS server, any suggestions ? |
| 11:20.53 | xavierge | i executed a python app. when it was executing, I accidentally press close the terminal where the command was typed in. now when i try to relaunch that ptyhon app, it throws "Attempt to unlock mutex that was not locked" |
| 11:21.01 | xavierge | reboot doesn't take effect. |
| 11:21.13 | xavierge | any place i can fix that issue? |
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| 11:21.47 | SynrGy | this will, of course, depend on the application. it probably created a lockfile |
| 11:22.20 | ChrisH | coudy: you could give that a try in nsswitch.conf hosts: file [NOTFOUND=continue] ldap [NOTFOUND=continue] dns (which should be the default, but...) |
| 11:22.42 | SynrGy | xavierge: if the error message was well written, it will state the location of the lockfile |
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| 11:23.37 | SynrGy | if it wasn't well written, file a bug on the application to include this information (and check the source to see where it puts its lockfiles; apparently not /tmp, as that is cleaned on a reboot) |
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| 11:24.12 | xavierge | SynrGy: that's why i am scratching my head. can't find any clue as it only prints message on console saying attempt to unlock something that's not locked. |
| 11:24.12 | SynrGy | the corrective action you need to take is locate and remove the lockfile |
| 11:24.13 | coudy | ChrisH: tried now, does not work |
| 11:24.25 | capuchin | There is no #debian-next on this server. |
| 11:24.26 | xavierge | any command can be used to check what's locked? |
| 11:24.33 | SynrGy | capuchin: three people told you which server |
| 11:24.38 | SynrGy | capuchin: how could you miss that? |
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| 11:25.06 | SynrGy | 08:15 < SynrGy> capuchin: see #debian-next @ irc.oftc.net for unstable support. |
| 11:25.15 | SynrGy | irc.oftc.net is not irc.freenode.net |
| 11:25.26 | capuchin | Dunno how I did, SynrGy, but I did. I see it now and found it on the Debian wiki. |
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| 11:27.02 | bolt | themill: in case you're interested, the machine that had issues running "apt-get update" had a partially downloaded Packages.gz in /var/lib/apt/lists/partial/, which was larger than the current Packages.gz. This makes apt-get attempt to request the rest of the file using the "Range: bytes=" header in a http request for the rest of the file. The response is, appropriately, code 416 (range not satisfiable), which apt-get seems to interpret as 404. This seems |
| 11:27.02 | bolt | like a bug. Removing the partial list resolved the issue. |
| 11:27.14 | coudy | maybe this should help ? https://wiki.debian.org/LDAP/PowerDNSSetup |
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| 11:39.58 | wols_ | you could set it in /etc/environment |
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| 11:48.16 | bolt | themill: reported a bug on the apt package about it |
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| 12:08.52 | kon14_ | hi people. I have an overscan issue (tv monitor) in my debian radeonsi installation. The tv keeps zooming in my desktop when using 1920x1080i (60hz) and won't let me change the screen format (no settings for disabling overscan with force). Catalyst was able to fix the overscan/underscan issues using the control center, but xrandr's overscan and underscan options don't seem to change anything at all (they only mess with the 1360x768p_30 |
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| 12:16.56 | Bluewolf | Hi all, I have recently installed this game (Savage XR - http://www.savagexr.com/download.html) but when I try and run it I get this error: http://paste.debian.net/126106/ |
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| 12:24.30 | nkuttler | Bluewolf: well, install the missing deps |
| 12:24.35 | nkuttler | !tell Bluewolf about apt-file |
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| 12:26.48 | Bluewolf | nkuttler: How do I find the name of the missing file, I have backports installed, just so you know? |
| 12:27.22 | bolt | Bluewolf: hint: libXft.so.2 |
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| 12:28.19 | Bluewolf | bolt: Yeah its something like that, libft2 or something similar |
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| 12:28.53 | bolt | Bluewolf: it's the file name you want to search for with apt-file, which nkuttler told you about |
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| 12:34.05 | cloudowind | hello everyone..if a module is running than that means that is added to the kernel right?and if its nor running its removed from it?i mean the modules are not like services , we can set them auto or manual , |
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| 12:34.21 | cloudowind | and how do i modify it?insmod? |
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| 12:35.00 | cloudowind | we cant set them auto start or manual like we do with services |
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| 12:36.53 | cloudowind | ok all i wanna do is set my bluetooth turned of by default and i dont want it to be turned on unless i want it to be..because i am turning it off and in next reboot it turns itself on again |
| 12:37.06 | cloudowind | and i thought maybe i should remove the module it uses?:D |
| 12:37.10 | Brigo | cloudowind, usually the modules are loadede when needed |
| 12:37.53 | cloudowind | then how am i going to turn my bluetooth off and leave it off until i turn it on again?and will stay off even after reboot? |
| 12:37.57 | Brigo | cloudowind, i think you should use a bluetooth manager. |
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| 12:38.31 | cloudowind | what i remove the module from the system? |
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| 12:38.39 | cloudowind | i dont think i will ever need to use that port |
| 12:38.56 | Brigo | cloudowind, install and use urfkill |
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| 12:39.22 | Bluewolf | bolt: One moment, I will be back. |
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| 12:39.38 | Dirkos | script 'cloud-set-guest-password' missing LSB tags and overrides |
| 12:39.43 | Dirkos | What can i do about this? |
| 12:39.52 | Dirkos | <PROTECTED> |
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| 12:40.15 | bolt | Dirkos: you're installing something that isn't part of debian? |
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| 12:40.32 | Guest24204 | Hi everyone, i come back with my problem from yesterday, didnât find any thing to fix it, i run on apache2 + apc, and on upload (80M+) i got an request entity too large, i tried to set everything in php.ini ht access and all conf but nothing fixed it here is my phpinfo https://lyon3.my-univ.com/tyty.php thx ! |
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| 12:40.47 | Dirkos | bolt: well its a default iso from my hoster at debian |
| 12:40.54 | Dirkos | so i guess that is the bridge then :) |
| 12:41.37 | bolt | Dirkos: it would seem whatever you are installing doesn't have the proper tags in its init scripts. look at the ones that come with your system and update accordingly |
| 12:44.16 | Dirkos | ok so its not a big deal rght? |
| 12:44.29 | bolt | right |
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| 13:05.18 | Bluewolf | bolt: Sorry I'm back, do I continue? http://paste.debian.net/126110/ |
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| 13:06.33 | petemc | Bluewolf: yes, install apt-file, update it and use that to search for the file you need |
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| 13:10.40 | Pascal_1 | Bluewolf: libxft2 package ?? |
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| 13:11.32 | Bluewolf | Pascal_1: To get a program working. |
| 13:12.46 | Bluewolf | petemc: Okay I have run both aptitude install apt-file && apt-file update, now how do I check for the file I need? |
| 13:13.44 | cloudowind | i was reading a quide and the fellow there using an application called qconf and is getting onformation about loaded modules and devices etc |
| 13:13.54 | cloudowind | i downloaded and installed qconf |
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| 13:14.12 | cloudowind | but i dont know if they are the same things..anyone has an idea what i am talking about? |
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| 13:14.42 | Pascal_1 | Bluewolf: i thought you were asking wich package you have to install to have the file : "libXft.so.2" |
| 13:15.08 | Pascal_1 | if it's your question , the package to install is "libxft2" |
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| 13:17.19 | Bluewolf | Pascal_1: I have tried just that, I have back-ports installed which leaves me clueless. Solution? - http://paste.debian.net/126111/ |
| 13:17.43 | r3n1c0n | hello, any one knows a program to share display from computer to tablet with wifi or usb |
| 13:17.48 | r3n1c0n | i found airdisplay and idisplay but this are booth for win**** and mac |
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| 13:18.43 | r3n1c0n | or to connect android tablet as 2e monitor |
| 13:19.18 | Pascal_1 | Bluewolf: then the package is already installed and then you should have the "libXft.so.2" file somewhere ;-) |
| 13:19.26 | Pascal_1 | have you got an error message ? |
| 13:20.58 | unclezipper | r3n1c0n: Check this out, it may help: http://askubuntu.com/questions/28608/how-do-you-use-an-android-tablet-as-a-second-display |
| 13:22.03 | Bluewolf | Pascal_1: The first is http://paste.debian.net/126106/ (As I am trying to get Savage XR installed) http://paste.debian.net/126111/ (And thats when I try and install libxft2) |
| 13:22.05 | r3n1c0n | unclezipper, Yep ty i most have looked over it O_o |
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| 13:26.40 | Pascal_1 | Bluewolf: it seems you need 32 bits library versions |
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| 13:27.57 | Bluewolf | Pascal_1: Would you be able to assist me in getting them? |
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| 13:29.05 | any_ | hi, after using parted magic to extend a partition, fdisk can see the right partition size but df -h still shows the older size...Any idea of how to solve that ? Can that be due to udev ? |
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| 13:29.23 | Pascal_1 | i can see on the net that you have to install "ia32-libs" wich will install 32 bits version of all library. May be someone could confirm that is risk less ? |
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| 13:30.56 | Pascal_1 | you have to activate before the "multiarch" |
| 13:31.02 | Pascal_1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:31.03 | dpkg | gets an architect to start planning a new classical chipset |
| 13:31.14 | Pascal_1 | gné ?? |
| 13:31.27 | bolt | any_: file system size is not necessarily equal to partition size |
| 13:31.44 | bolt | any_: you need to resize your file system (assuming you've already attempted simply remounting it) |
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| 13:33.00 | any_ | bolt: how ? (yes I already tried to remount it manually/change options in fstab with no success) |
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| 13:33.39 | abrotman | Pascal_1: ia32-libs is deprecated, don't use it |
| 13:34.06 | bolt | any_: i have no way to tell what filesystem you're on. resize2fs deals with some. google can help you. hope you have backups. |
| 13:34.14 | Bluewolf | Pascal_1: Do I have to install 32 bits version of all library (multiarch), can't I simply install the package that is needed or find an alternative to satisfy the program? |
| 13:34.25 | any_ | bolt: ext3 and ext2 |
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| 13:35.01 | any_ | I'll try resize2fs thx |
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| 13:39.29 | ws2k3 | it seems debian system administration team gone mad... https://www.leaseweb.com/press/release/debian-chooses-leaseweb-to-provide-global-snapshot-archive |
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| 13:46.32 | jelly | ws2k3: do you have a better and cheaper CDN? |
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| 13:46.59 | Iridos | I would also like to ask "why" but maybe it's more something for #debian-offtopic |
| 13:47.08 | jelly | pretty much |
| 13:47.15 | ws2k3 | leasweb is SURELY not cheap. and better? i think there are not anymore worse datacenters then leaseweb |
| 13:48.56 | Pascal_1 | abrotman: then what could be the way to have 32 bits library ? |
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| 13:50.27 | Iridos | ws2k3, /j #debian-offtopic |
| 13:50.49 | Pascal_1 | abrotman: he shuold install i386 package then ? |
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| 13:51.28 | ws2k3 | Pascal_1 do you wanne run 32 bit application or what is your goal ? |
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| 13:53.54 | Bluewolf | ws2k3: To get ia32-libs working on a 64bit system, intern so that another application can function off it. |
| 13:53.57 | Pascal_1 | ws2k3: i'm trying to help Bluewolf |
| 13:54.21 | Brigo | !multiarch |
| 13:54.21 | dpkg | Multiarch allows you to install foreign architecture packages. For example, to allow i386 packages to be installed on an amd64 system: «dpkg --add-architecture i386 && apt-get update». See http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch and <multiarch howto>, <multiarch failures>. For the unrelated installer that can install i386 or amd64, see <multi-arch installer>. |
| 13:54.39 | Pascal_1 | Bluewolf: did you try to install libxft2:i386 ? |
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| 14:00.01 | Bluewolf | Pascal_1: Do I continue? http://paste.debian.net/126123/ |
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| 14:02.23 | menace | can anyone explain to me, for what purpose the file /var/lib/bind/bind9-default.md5sum exists? |
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| 14:03.43 | menace | it hashes the content of /etc/default/bind9 as far as i can see in the postinst, but i cannot recognize the usecase behind that. |
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| 14:05.39 | jelly | menace: apparently it's used during installation and upgrades of the package (/var/lib/dpkg/info/bind9.post{inst,rm} scripts) |
| 14:05.48 | Bluewolf | Pascal_1: It worked, that appears to have solved it - http://paste.debian.net/126124/ |
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| 14:06.46 | Pascal_1 | Bluewolf: then can you start your game ? |
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| 14:07.27 | menace | jelly: that is apparent, yes. But i still don't know, WHY... |
| 14:07.28 | menace | :D |
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| 14:07.39 | Bluewolf | Pascal_1: Indeed I can, thank you for your help and time. |
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| 14:12.11 | jelly | menace: I've no idea either, it looks like poor man's ucf |
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| 14:18.31 | Bluewolf | Pascal_1: ;-) |
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| 14:35.05 | _aeris_ | ohai #debian ! |
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| 14:35.16 | _aeris_ | i have some trouble with usb just after grub |
| 14:35.52 | _aeris_ | until grub, i have usb (can navigate on grub menu, edit command lineâ¦) |
| 14:36.14 | _aeris_ | just after the grub, all usb shutdown, no keyboard, no usb key |
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| 14:36.32 | _aeris_ | like if the usb port are power off |
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| 14:37.10 | _aeris_ | just after luks passphrase (with ps2 keyboardâ¦), usb power on ⦠|
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| 14:40.30 | Brigo | _aeris_, new computer and old kernel? |
| 14:40.42 | _aeris_ | same computer than yesterday :D |
| 14:40.52 | _aeris_ | kernel 3.16-2-amd64 |
| 14:41.07 | Brigo | ah, so yesterday was ok? |
| 14:41.10 | _aeris_ | yep |
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| 14:41.25 | Brigo | and what did you change? are you using wheezy? |
| 14:41.28 | _aeris_ | trouble only from today, just after disk exchange |
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| 14:41.33 | glukt | sounds like jessie with that kernel |
| 14:41.35 | _aeris_ | using testing |
| 14:42.05 | jelly | _aeris_: whne you plug in the usb keyboard/mouse after bootup, does it work? |
| 14:42.07 | Brigo | you can instal 3.16 kernels in wheezy thorugh backports. |
| 14:42.10 | _aeris_ | i change a hdd, putting luks + lvm on it (not on the old hdd) |
| 14:42.12 | glukt | _aeris_: you only changed the disk? you didnt upgrade the kernel? |
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| 14:42.21 | _aeris_ | glukt > no, same kernel |
| 14:42.23 | glukt | Brigo: true |
| 14:42.27 | tsam | _aeris_: can you sill boot untill the OS and run commands (via ssh if your keyboard is not detected)? |
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| 14:42.45 | _aeris_ | tsam > after luks password, all usb working |
| 14:43.01 | _aeris_ | just before grub end, all usb working |
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| 14:43.04 | jelly | _aeris_: sounds like the initramfs was built without usb hid modules |
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| 14:43.16 | _aeris_ | yep, seems initramfr related⦠|
| 14:43.23 | mgaunard_ | is it normal that libapache2-mod-suphp is not available with testing? |
| 14:43.26 | jelly | _aeris_: this happened to me a couple months back on testing, but was fixed since |
| 14:43.27 | mgaunard_ | it's in stable and unstable |
| 14:43.32 | mgaunard_ | but not testing jessie |
| 14:43.46 | jhutchins | What would one ordinarily do with the keyboard & mouse between the grub menu and the luks password? |
| 14:43.47 | jelly | dpkg, tell mgaunard_ about why is libapache2-mod-suphp not in testing |
| 14:43.59 | glukt | _aeris_: wait, you're saying grub USB works, then *during* luks your USB doesnt work, then *after* luks it works again? i think LUKS doesnt like wireless keyboards a lot if there is a physical one plugged in (you said you have a PS/2 one plugged in) to prevent your key from being stolen or something |
| 14:44.09 | jelly | jhutchins: they would ordinarily try to enter the damn password |
| 14:44.20 | _aeris_ | glukt > it's not wirelass keyboard |
| 14:44.27 | _aeris_ | but plain old usb cable keyboard |
| 14:44.30 | glukt | _aeris_: then maybe just USB in general... |
| 14:44.37 | glukt | try unplugging the PS/2 keyboard |
| 14:44.46 | _aeris_ | yep, usb key not light up too |
| 14:44.56 | glukt | but after luks its fine you're saying? |
| 14:44.59 | _aeris_ | (and yubikey just flash 1 or 2s after shutdown) |
| 14:45.06 | _aeris_ | yep, after luks, all is good |
| 14:45.16 | glukt | then yeah, try booting without that PS/2 keyboard |
| 14:45.22 | mgaunard_ | jelly: your magic command didn't seem to work |
| 14:45.24 | _aeris_ | (i'm on the running OS and typing on usb keyboard at this moment) |
| 14:45.35 | _aeris_ | glukt > without ps/2, same problem |
| 14:45.54 | jelly | glukt: unplugging would not change anything, Linux kernel accepts keyboard input from any keyboard, given drivers |
| 14:45.58 | unclezipper | Stupid suggestion, but have you tried using different USB ports? |
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| 14:46.02 | jelly | mgaunard_: "libapache2-mod-suphp is not in testing for the reasons listed in http://release.debian.org/migration/testing.pl?package=libapache2-mod-suphp" |
| 14:46.21 | glukt | jelly: no it doesnt, LUKS doesnt like certain keyboards for security reasons... to be honest i dont know if it likes USB keyboards at all sometimes |
| 14:46.35 | unclezipper | jelly: Some computers have finicky BIOSes though. I've had stuff like that happen before |
| 14:46.46 | mgaunard_ | jelly: 404 not found |
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| 14:47.45 | glukt | _aeris_: is this a desktop or laptop? |
| 14:47.48 | jelly | glukt: LUKS does not care about keyboards. scripts in initramfs set up drivers, including keyboard drivers, and the default console password tool just accepts whatever keyboard as far as I know. I've read some of the code when this happened to me. |
| 14:47.55 | _aeris_ | glukt > desktop |
| 14:48.08 | _aeris_ | unclezipper > yep, all usb port |
| 14:48.29 | _aeris_ | directly plug on mobo and internal usb card |
| 14:48.41 | jelly | mgaunard_: sorry, that page more often fails than works. Absence from testing usually means there are RC bugs that prevent this version from entering. |
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| 14:49.06 | jelly | mgaunard_: you cah check bugs.debian.org/packagename |
| 14:49.14 | mgaunard_ | jelly: is there a way to force debian to install the old version from wheezy? |
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| 14:49.43 | jelly | mgaunard_: not likely to work, being built for older php. You could try pulling it from unstable tho. |
| 14:49.57 | jelly | mgaunard_: read /msg dpkg tum |
| 14:50.00 | mgaunard_ | in unstable it actually only has m68k |
| 14:50.04 | Brigo | ,v libapache2-mod-suphp |
| 14:50.05 | judd | Package: libapache2-mod-suphp on i386 -- squeeze: 0.7.1-1; wheezy: 0.7.1-3 |
| 14:50.09 | jelly | oh |
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| 14:50.25 | jelly | mgaunard_: apparently it was removed from Debian, then |
| 14:50.32 | jelly | judd: bug rm libapache2-mod-suphp |
| 14:50.33 | Guest24204 | Hi everyone, i come back with my problem from yesterday, didnât find any thing to fix it, i run on apache2 + apc, and on upload (80M+) i got an request entity too large, i tried to set everything in php.ini ht access and all conf but nothing fixed it here is my phpinfo https://lyon3.my-univ.com/tyty.php thx ! |
| 14:50.38 | judd | Sorry, no removal reasons were found. |
| 14:51.24 | jelly | judd: bug rm suphp |
| 14:51.28 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/738133 in ftp.debian.org (closed): «RM: suphp -- RoQA; unmaintained, dead upstream»; severity: normal; opened: 2014-02-07; last modified: 2014-03-18. |
| 14:51.39 | jelly | mgaunard_: ^^ |
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| 14:58.12 | mgaunard_ | jelly: it doesn't suggest a replacement? |
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| 15:22.53 | Bluewolf | Anyone know how I can fix this error, when I start the program it runs (Checks for updates) then closes? - http://paste.debian.net/126161/ |
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| 15:24.45 | _aeris_ | Bluewolf > apt install libsdl1.2debian |
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| 15:26.06 | jelly | mgaunard_: our web hosting admin tells me fcgid has the same per-user capability, and there's also this php-fpm thing |
| 15:26.24 | jelly | ,v php5-fpm |
| 15:26.25 | judd | Package: php5-fpm on i386 -- wheezy: 5.4.4-14+deb7u11; wheezy-security: 5.4.4-14+deb7u14; wheezy-proposed-updates: 5.4.4-14+deb7u14; jessie: 5.6.0+dfsg-1+b1; sid: 5.6.0+dfsg-1+b1 |
| 15:27.31 | Bluewolf | _aeris_: Is there a 32bit version, the program I am trying to run is a 32bit? |
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| 15:27.48 | _aeris_ | apt install libsdl1.2debian:i386 ? :D |
| 15:27.48 | apt | ACTION runs yum -y localinstall libsdl1.2debian:i386 ? :D-4.2-1.noarch.rpm |
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| 15:29.42 | Bluewolf | _aeris_: Yeah sorry I knew it was something like that, I just forgot the i386, or the order of it :D |
| 15:29.45 | Bluewolf | Trying now |
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| 15:31.35 | Bluewolf | _aeris_: Okay it works, next issue - Because its a 32bit program on a 64bit program it enlargens my desktop after excecuting and exiting, how do I fix that? |
| 15:32.06 | _aeris_ | not a problem of 32 on 64 bits, just problem of x11 |
| 15:32.16 | _aeris_ | bad program, change program :) |
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| 15:34.49 | waqstar | how would i go about executing a php script as a different user. i want to see if nginx user is able to execute a particular script. i try su nginx and it says "This account is currently not available" |
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| 15:34.58 | Bluewolf | _aeris_: I think I might have fixed it. Its a game - (Savage XR, you should try it :D) I set the options to that of my screen. |
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| 15:36.03 | Bluewolf | _aeris_: I'm going to log out and back in. BRB |
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| 15:38.10 | jordanm | waqstar: su -s /bin/bash nginx |
| 15:38.34 | jordanm | waqstar: or su nginx php /path/to/script |
| 15:38.37 | jordanm | err |
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| 15:38.41 | jordanm | waqstar: or su nginx -c 'php /path/to/script' |
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| 15:40.26 | Bluewolf | _aeris_: Okay I'm back, it works. Problem solved and I hope there are no others. Thank you for your help :D |
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| 15:41.40 | topi` | hmm, what's this /etc/python directory in wheezy? there's some kind of config file for handling byte-compiling. I wonder if this is a Debian specific patch? or does upstream python actually read stuff under /etc/python ? |
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| 15:46.08 | karlpinc` | !tell topi` about readme.debian |
| 15:48.02 | topi` | right, README.Debian does not talk about the files under /etc/python at all, so I guess it's an upstream feature. Strange that I haven't noticed it. |
| 15:48.58 | waqstar | jordanm: thanks - first one "su -s /bin/bash nginx" worked |
| 15:50.29 | optraz | what is xdg stand far? |
| 15:50.30 | topi` | this is a linux-specific configuration, but how can IP configuration be managed in linux? In debian, NetworkManager is used in most cases to avoid manual ifconfig / dhcpc invocations, but how does NM know when an interface's config has changed? (so that it can force its own) |
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| 16:06.58 | Quantum` | I want to test for a mountpoint with: if mountpoint -q /media/backups/cygnus ; then |
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| 16:07.11 | Quantum` | ... but I want to know if it is -not- mounted. |
| 16:07.23 | Quantum` | How do I negate mountpoint? |
| 16:07.33 | Quantum` | !mountpoint? |
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| 16:08.53 | MrBy2 | Quantum`: ! |
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| 16:09.16 | Quantum` | MrBy2: just !mountpoint ? |
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| 16:10.01 | MrBy2 | Quantum`: ! mountpoint |
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| 16:10.19 | Quantum` | K thx |
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| 16:16.47 | linwiz | I am looking for a "libscrypt" which seems to be in "sid" according to google but it is not available in my repo. Is there something I can do to gain access to it? |
| 16:17.16 | SynrGy | ,v libscrypt0 |
| 16:17.18 | judd | Package: libscrypt0 on i386 -- jessie: 1-2.2; sid: 1-2.2 |
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| 16:17.55 | linwiz | I'm using wheezy a.t.m. |
| 16:17.58 | SynrGy | ,checkbackport libscrypt0 |
| 16:17.59 | judd | Backporting package libscrypt0 in sidâwheezy/i386: all build-dependencies satisfied using wheezy. |
| 16:18.06 | SynrGy | !tell linwiz about ssb |
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| 16:18.59 | SynrGy | linwiz: do what dpkg bot told you, i.e. build your own backport of it from source |
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| 16:19.55 | linwiz | Will do. (or atleast try lol) Thanks SynrGy |
| 16:20.09 | SynrGy | linwiz: with luck, it will go well |
| 16:20.15 | SynrGy | this looks like one of the simpler cases |
| 16:20.33 | SynrGy | if not, give us a shout |
| 16:21.00 | SynrGy | be prepared with a paste of output from the failed build |
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| 16:21.30 | SynrGy | (paste.debian.net or so) |
| 16:21.34 | busch | I just want to say: I love debian |
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| 16:22.31 | linwiz | I hope it goes well. Its not as simple as it seems, I have some extra bits that i am sure will compilicate things. |
| 16:22.58 | SynrGy | linwiz: 'extra bits'? |
| 16:23.06 | OnkelTem | Hi. Should I use console-cyrillic package to setup Russian in the console or there is unified way to configure console? |
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| 16:24.02 | linwiz | I am actually using raspbian wheezy, not 'just' wheezy. But I am hopeful (maybe ignorant) that it will work |
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| 16:25.28 | phy1729 | linwiz: try #raspbian |
| 16:26.16 | OnkelTem | This is what I see in the console now: http://screencloud.net/v/DCl3 |
| 16:26.39 | SynrGy | linwiz: what phy1729 said. please respect our rules and don't use #debian for support for raspbian. it is not the same and we can't know what changes they've made, wasting our efforts. |
| 16:26.43 | OnkelTem | See those <> symbols? How to get rid of them? |
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| 16:27.55 | dondelelcaro | OnkelTem: reset; |
| 16:28.10 | dondelelcaro | OnkelTem: that should clear/reset your terminal, and then you should be good to go |
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| 16:28.23 | linwiz | I guess I don't understand, its still debian, no matter what you call it. this is just the better support channel. |
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| 16:29.07 | dondelelcaro | linwiz: raspian has made lots of changes to what they distribute, so it's hard for us to support it here. If we were to support it, we'd be in that channel, helping. |
| 16:29.50 | linwiz | ok |
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| 16:31.02 | Smuckerz | Hi :) I am having an issue with my computer crashing randomly. I took 3 pictures of the screen that was displayed upon the crash the last time it crashed and they are here: http://s809.photobucket.com/user/Smuckerz1986/media/IMG_20141014_115515_zps5a45367a.jpg.html If anyone is able to make sense of what is occurring, I would be very grateful, thank you. |
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| 16:31.37 | OnkelTem | dondelelcaro: nah, it was wrong font I suppose. I found the proper way: reconfigured console-setup :) |
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| 16:36.44 | yottanami | I want use sim card slot of my laptop so I found this http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Qualcomm_Gobi_2000 I copied default firmware from "UMTS" and in lsusb I can see Bus 002 Device 003: ID 05c6:9204 Qualcomm, Inc |
| 16:36.44 | yottanami | But I have not /dev/ttyUSB1 What should I do to fix it ? |
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| 16:37.08 | berceanu_ | hi guys |
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| 16:37.38 | berceanu_ | i need to run this at every boot-up: xinput set-int-prop 12 "Device Enabled" 8 0 |
| 16:37.57 | berceanu_ | because one of my laptop keys is stuck and i need to disable my internal keyboard |
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| 16:38.18 | berceanu_ | where should i put this line so it get executed every time i boot-up, before the login screen |
| 16:38.25 | berceanu_ | im using wheezy btw |
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| 16:39.04 | SynrGy | Smuckerz: a dual graphics system? using bumblebee-nvidia? |
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| 16:39.44 | Smuckerz | grr.... |
| 16:39.50 | berceanu_ | anyone? :) |
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| 16:40.22 | SynrGy | Smuckerz: a dual graphics system? using bumblebee-nvidia? |
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| 16:41.01 | Smuckerz | yeah, iGPU HD4000 onboard i7-4700MQ and dGPU nVidia GTX780m |
| 16:41.11 | berceanu_ | maybe in /etc/profile? |
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| 16:41.23 | meaneye_ | berceanu_, ~/.xsession |
| 16:41.26 | Smuckerz | @ SynrG, |
| 16:41.40 | meaneye_ | berceanu_, You don't need before login. |
| 16:41.43 | SynrGy | Smuckerz: using the wheezy kernel or wheezy-backports? |
| 16:42.01 | SynrGy | ,v bumblebee-nvidia |
| 16:42.02 | judd | Package: bumblebee-nvidia on i386 -- wheezy-backports/contrib: 3.2.1-4~bpo70+1; sid/contrib: 3.2.1-5; jessie/contrib: 3.2.1-5 |
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| 16:42.10 | berceanu_ | meaneye_: oh i do. i cant type in my login password |
| 16:42.16 | SynrGy | ,v bumblebee |
| 16:42.17 | judd | Package: bumblebee on i386 -- wheezy-backports: 3.2.1-4~bpo70+1; sid: 3.2.1-5; jessie: 3.2.1-5 |
| 16:42.39 | meaneye_ | berceanu_, oh. Perhaps you can set that through udev rule. |
| 16:42.49 | SynrGy | Smuckerz: looks like bumblebee is *only* available in wheezy-backports, so i'd expect you'd get best results with a kernel to match |
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| 16:43.28 | SynrGy | Smuckerz: you confirmed what hardware you are using, but is that an affirmative as well that you use the non-free bumblebee-nvidia with it? |
| 16:43.57 | Smuckerz | non-free bumblebee-nvidia? |
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| 16:44.18 | SynrGy | Smuckerz: there are two bumblebee packages. one is from main and one from non-free, but both are in wheezy-backports only, not wheezy. |
| 16:44.32 | SynrGy | Smuckerz: the non-free one is called bumblebee-nvidia. |
| 16:45.15 | SynrGy | this depends on nvidia's proprietary driver. the free one depends on nouveau |
| 16:45.29 | Smuckerz | apologizes for some of her ignorance. I am aware bumblebee is being used, however I am unaware of the precise things. |
| 16:45.39 | SynrGy | if your hardware is very new, nouveau may not handle it as well as the proprietary driver does. |
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| 16:46.10 | SynrGy | well, let's try 'apt-cache policy bumblebee bumblebee-nvidia', and put output at http://paste.debian.net please |
| 16:46.15 | Smuckerz | yeah, machine is like 10 months old |
| 16:46.19 | Smuckerz | ok :) |
| 16:46.35 | gentoo | want to create a debian derivative , need help with getting started ? |
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| 16:47.08 | mtn | the world needs another debian derivative?? |
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| 16:47.22 | yottanami | There are many firmwares in http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Qualcomm_Gobi_2000 How can I find out which one is compatible with my carrier ? can I copy all of them ? |
| 16:47.36 | SynrGy | gentoo: ok, the standard answer is "don't" :) but assuming you have a Really Good Reason why you still want to, there is the derivatives front desk who may be able to help |
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| 16:48.01 | SynrGy | gentoo: it is preferable to work within debian to make it do what you need. |
| 16:48.18 | SynrGy | !pure blend |
| 16:48.19 | dpkg | A Debian Pure Blend (formerly Custom Debian Distribution) is a subset of Debian configured to support a particular target group out-of-the-box. Not to be confused with distributions <based on Debian>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianPureBlends http://blends.debian.org/ #debian-custom on irc.oftc.net. |
| 16:48.20 | Smuckerz | SynrG, http://paste.debian.net/126180/ |
| 16:48.38 | Smuckerz | seems to be backports? |
| 16:48.58 | SynrGy | yes. it's the only way. and both are installed. interesting |
| 16:49.20 | gentoo | just of curiosity , want my institution to have our own custom debian based linux? |
| 16:49.20 | SynrGy | oh, i see. bumblebee-nvidia depends on bumblebee. makes sense. |
| 16:49.37 | SynrGy | ,v nvidia-driver |
| 16:49.38 | judd | Package: nvidia-driver on i386 -- wheezy-backports/non-free: 319.82-1~bpo70+2; jessie/non-free: 340.32-1; sid/non-free: 340.46-1 |
| 16:49.51 | SynrGy | Smuckerz: how about the output of 'apt-cache policy nvidia-driver' |
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| 16:50.27 | SynrGy | Smuckerz: also, 'uname -a' |
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| 16:51.10 | Smuckerz | SynrG, http://paste.debian.net/126181/ |
| 16:51.58 | Smuckerz | SynrG, Linux Melanie-PC 3.15.1 #1 SMP Sat Jun 21 00:01:08 EDT 2014 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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| 16:52.20 | SynrGy | Smuckerz: why such an old kernel? |
| 16:52.24 | SynrGy | ,kernels |
| 16:52.25 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.17-rc5-686-pae (3.17~rc5-1~exp1); sid: 3.16-3-686-pae (3.16.5-1); jessie: 3.16-2-686-pae (3.16.3-2); wheezy-backports: 3.16-0.bpo.2-686-pae (3.16.3-2~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.60-1+deb7u3); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.57-3+deb7u2~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze6) |
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| 16:53.38 | SynrGy | Smuckerz: how about 'apt-cache policy linux-image-amd64' |
| 16:53.43 | gentoo | where can i get help, getting started with our own debian derivative? |
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| 16:53.54 | Smuckerz | i'd have to say that is what was the available kernl when my friend installed :/ |
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| 16:54.48 | Smuckerz | SynrG, http://paste.debian.net/126183/ |
| 16:54.52 | mtn | gentoo: look up to what dpkg said earlier |
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| 16:55.32 | antoniodmora | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:56.04 | SynrGy | Smuckerz: curious that it says it has 3.16+61~bpo70+1 installed, and that version should depend on a 3.16 kernel ... |
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| 16:56.15 | SynrGy | yet your 'uname -a' says otherwise. |
| 16:56.34 | SynrGy | that is, you may be booting to a kernel that is not the most recent kernel that is installed on your system. |
| 16:56.45 | SynrGy | can you ask your friend about this discrepancy? |
| 16:57.33 | SynrGy | normally, installing a new kernel would ensure that it boots to this kernel the next time you reboot ... |
| 16:57.42 | SynrGy | Smuckerz: have you rebooted since your last upgrade? |
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| 16:58.05 | antoniodmora | good morning everyone |
| 16:58.07 | Smuckerz | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:58.07 | Smuckerz | Gigabit Ethernet controller ** Uptime: 1h 1m 36s ** |
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| 16:58.27 | SynrGy | sounds like you probably have |
| 16:58.33 | antoniodmora | I found a broken link in the wiki, how can it be updated?? |
| 16:58.35 | Smuckerz | nods |
| 16:59.23 | Smuckerz | SynrG, there is a .15 and a .20 something -amd64 |
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| 16:59.26 | SynrGy | Smuckerz: is the system dual-booted with some other operating system? |
| 16:59.28 | Smuckerz | that i see |
| 16:59.30 | Smuckerz | yes |
| 16:59.37 | Smuckerz | also win7 pro |
| 16:59.50 | SynrGy | which OS's boot manager is responsible for booting the system? |
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| 17:00.05 | SynrGy | it may not realize that you have a newer kernel and still points at the old one |
| 17:00.06 | Smuckerz | which also crashes randomly :/ (which does not surprise me) |
| 17:00.20 | Smuckerz | grub |
| 17:00.29 | SynrGy | grub under debian's control, then? |
| 17:00.53 | antoniodmora | hello |
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| 17:02.00 | Smuckerz | the .15 is the primary designated boot OS |
| 17:02.09 | SynrGy | Smuckerz: grep 'menuentry ' /boot/grub/grub.cfg |
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| 17:03.46 | Smuckerz | oh geez, almost pasted the output here instead of the pastebin link |
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| 17:04.01 | Smuckerz | http://paste.debian.net/126185/ @ SynrG |
| 17:04.04 | Smuckerz | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:04.28 | r3n1c0n | can some one help with vino-server? I got it open, port forwarded, netstat | grep 5900 says connected, Top shows server is running. But i cannot connect |
| 17:05.12 | antoniodmora | I want to point some errata at the wiki, if this is not the place, could anyone give me some directions please |
| 17:05.14 | SynrGy | Smuckerz: and how about 'aptitude versions --group-by=none ~ilinux-image' |
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| 17:06.24 | Smuckerz | http://paste.debian.net/126186/ |
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| 17:07.18 | SynrGy | Smuckerz: good thing i double-checked. i misread this paste: http://paste.debian.net/126183/ |
| 17:07.36 | SynrGy | that earlier paste clearly says you only have the metapackage for the kernel from stable, not from wheezy-backports |
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| 17:08.42 | SynrGy | Smuckerz: so if you want to be kept up-to-date with latest kernels from wheezy-backports, and given that you have the non-free nvidia driver, which requires also the headers to work properly, you want to apt-get install -t wheezy-backports linux-image-amd64 linux-headers-amd64 |
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| 17:09.53 | SynrGy | Smuckerz: verify that went well (no error output from the dkms build) and if ok, when you reboot you'll be on the 3.16 kernel, which may solve your occasional crashes. |
| 17:10.10 | SynrGy | but if there was any problem with the install, let us know and don't reboot yet. |
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| 17:10.38 | Smuckerz | nods |
| 17:10.57 | SynrGy | (so far as i know it should work ... but i don't have any stable systems with the latest kernel backport, so can't say for certain) |
| 17:11.51 | r3n1c0n | unix 3 [ ] STREAM CONNECTED 5900 /var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket .. what is this saying? |
| 17:12.10 | SynrGy | Smuckerz: one plausible reason for you being stuck on an older kernel is that on a wheezy system it may not be possible to build the nvidia modules on the latest kernel and your friend had to fall back to an earlier version :/ |
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| 17:12.23 | Dirkos | My server is mailing from: root@debian75.auroracompute.com |
| 17:12.39 | Dirkos | how can i change that domain? Since there is no DNS record set for that domain so all my email from this server will fail |
| 17:13.11 | SynrGy | Dirkos: /etc/mailname perhaps? |
| 17:13.16 | Smuckerz | SynrG, would you like to see the output before i proceed? |
| 17:13.23 | SynrGy | Smuckerz: please, yes. |
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| 17:14.06 | Dirkos | SynrGy: ah yeah thanks :) |
| 17:14.14 | SynrGy | np |
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| 17:14.27 | Smuckerz | http://paste.debian.net/126188/ @ SynrGy |
| 17:14.55 | SynrGy | Smuckerz: but that doesn't show the install itself ... |
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| 17:15.34 | SynrGy | Smuckerz: i.e. after that, it waits for you to confirm, and then the interesting stuff is the result of the dkms rebuild |
| 17:16.08 | SynrGy | (dkms is a mechanism for rebuilding kernel modules automatically for each new kernel you install; since you use the nvidia-driver, it will do that for nvidia) |
| 17:16.19 | Smuckerz | sorry, was unsure |
| 17:16.23 | SynrGy | k |
| 17:17.21 | Smuckerz | i'm guessing this would be an error |
| 17:17.23 | Dirkos | SynrGy: is that all? I updated it with a real domain but still the old value is used |
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| 17:17.37 | Smuckerz | See https://wiki.debian.org/Xen#Error_.22unknown_compression_format.22 |
| 17:17.38 | Smuckerz | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:19.32 | SynrGy | Smuckerz: puzzling. a notebook system set up using Xen? not sure what your friend had in mind setting it up that way ... |
| 17:20.16 | SynrGy | Smuckerz: i had previously assumed you were dual-booted debian 7.6 & windows ... now revising that assumption :) |
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| 17:22.14 | SynrGy | Smuckerz: in fact, i asked you if it were dual-booted and you said yes. Xen hypervisor is not exactly what we mean by "dual booted" |
| 17:22.15 | Smuckerz | SynrG, i'm guessing that my notebook outpowers a good number of desktops that people still use doesn't make any difference |
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| 17:22.32 | Dr_sed | hello folks. I need to downgrade a package. Is there a way to list available versions of a package that I can downgrade to? |
| 17:22.36 | SynrGy | but it adds a new interesting variable into your problem |
| 17:22.46 | jordanm | !tell Dr_sed about downgrade |
| 17:23.08 | Smuckerz | SynrGy, i may be misunderstanding here |
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| 17:24.01 | SynrGy | Smuckerz: can i see the full error output in context, which linked to a debian wiki page about Xen ... maybe it isn't what i thought it was? |
| 17:24.38 | SynrGy | you only showed me a small fragment, so i may be taking it entirely out of context and drawing wrong conclusions from it |
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| 17:25.55 | cdleonard | hello |
| 17:26.00 | cdleonard | nmbd fails to start for me |
| 17:26.04 | SynrGy | Dr_sed: if the package is the latest in the archive, no. there is no list of earlier versions ... however, there is snapshot.debian.org where you might find such info |
| 17:26.32 | cdleonard | there are some hung processes: /bin/sh /etc/init.d/nmbd start and /bin/systemctl start nmbd.service |
| 17:26.55 | Dr_sed | SynrGy - thanks... I am looking... it's just that the latest version introduced a bug....so need to roll back |
| 17:27.13 | SynrGy | Dr_sed: another way is if it's still hanging around in your /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 17:27.17 | cdleonard | there is no nmbd process running, these scripts appear to just be hung |
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| 17:27.48 | SynrGy | Dr_sed: you could then just use dpkg -i to try to install the older version found there (Though you may need to include other debs if there are older dependencies as well) |
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| 17:31.31 | SynrGy | Smuckerz: a hypervisor (such as Xen) differs from "dual boot": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hypervisor in that one or more virtual machines run on top of it at once. |
| 17:32.17 | SynrGy | Smuckerz: if you know for certain this isn't what you have, then my apologies. the error exerpt you gave linked to a debian wiki page about Xen, so that's what caused my doubt. |
| 17:32.35 | SynrGy | Smuckerz: as i said, if i can see the complete output in context, it will help. |
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| 17:33.37 | SynrGy | antoniodmora: it's a wiki. login and fix it. |
| 17:33.51 | SynrGy | antoniodmora: our wiki doesn't allow anonymous edits. you need to register first. |
| 17:34.36 | SynrGy | antoniodmora: and #debian-www is the place that cares about such things and whoops, there he/she goes :p |
| 17:35.06 | antonio__ | thank you SynrGy |
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| 17:35.27 | infamous | anyone have any info on the ssl 3.0 vuln? |
| 17:35.28 | SynrGy | ah, alter ego :) |
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| 17:36.22 | antonio__ | no, I'm playing with irc clients and i'm saturated |
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| 17:37.01 | mtn | infamous: the one mentioned in the topic of this channel? |
| 17:37.23 | infamous | nope the one which hit theregister this morning |
| 17:37.30 | SynrGy | antoniodmora: i see, and this is being addressed on the other network anyway |
| 17:38.02 | mtn | infamous: ah. more fun, huh? |
| 17:38.07 | infamous | :( |
| 17:38.22 | antoniodmora | SynrGy: I usually chat here and oftc, because you never know where the answer comes from! |
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| 17:38.24 | infamous | might be related to x.509 and mitm possibilities |
| 17:38.32 | infamous | if so its nowhere near the risk of heartbleed |
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| 17:39.11 | RustyShackleford | I've got a project I'm working on thats in python 3.4. I do actually need the newest version |
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| 17:39.25 | RustyShackleford | but my server is running debian stable |
| 17:39.46 | RustyShackleford | so I've gotta build 3.4 from source? |
| 17:39.55 | richac | I'm having getting bootlogd to work |
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| 17:41.06 | richac | it fails to load on a reboot i'm not sure why |
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| 17:41.35 | SynrGy | antoniodmora: it is polite to just ask on one network and wait some time before asking on the other. 5 minutes is not a very long time. if you crosspost, it leads to dupliation of effort. |
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| 17:41.55 | richac | I wonder if it something i missed in my custom kernel that bootlogd needs |
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| 17:43.33 | richac | from google this might be the option here?> CONFIG_LEGACY_PTYS |
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| 17:51.19 | antoniodmora | Sorry, and thank you for the advice SynrGy |
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| 18:24.58 | Smuckerz | SynrGy, are you still there? |
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| 18:26.11 | flo|va-nu-pied | Hi all |
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| 18:27.28 | flo|va-nu-pied | I got my personnal apt mirror here. Because I only use amd64, i've disabled i386 repos sync; but is seem that even with multiarch disabled on concerned server; it keep searching for i386 mirror url and get 404 |
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| 18:28.03 | flo|va-nu-pied | so do I must also synchronise i386 even if i don't use it ? or am i missing something ? |
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| 18:30.27 | flo|va-nu-pied | i'me quiet sure there was a line to add in apt config file in order to disable it (on the client side) but I can't remember exactly |
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| 18:39.51 | Smuckerz | SynrGy, |
| 18:39.56 | Smuckerz | SynrG, |
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| 18:41.55 | dine909 | how can i run an 'apt-get update' inside a debian installer package script? |
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| 18:47.27 | Cryp71c | I've joined a debian server to the AD domain following this: https://wiki.debian.org/AuthenticatingLinuxWithActiveDirectory but when I do `wbinfo -u` I get nothing... |
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| 18:51.14 | phogg | Cryp71c: echo $? immediately after wbinfo -u; does it report a non-zero exit code? |
| 18:51.19 | phogg | is just stabbing in the dark |
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| 19:02.15 | nell | how different is debian testing from ubuntu |
| 19:02.20 | nell | in terms of packages |
| 19:02.34 | nell | and running those packages |
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| 19:04.32 | dondelelcaro | nell: pretty different; you'd have to check out the full set of patches that ubuntu applies to know for certain |
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| 19:12.56 | RoyK | i |
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| 19:14.36 | Okee | anyone have a recommendation for a plugin, that will allow me to change the name of a file name, with the right click of the mouse, when reviewing a files via Thunderbird? |
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| 19:17.23 | flo|va-nu-pied | Okee: you mean right click -> save as on an attachment ? I think I don't get it |
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| 19:18.54 | Cryp71c | phogg, nope, 0. net ads info takes several seconds but the time is definitely wrong (pre-1970) and I know kerebos requires time accuracy, but I'm not sure how to fix that |
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| 19:20.14 | Okee | flo|va-nu-pied> Example: If I save an .eml file from Thunderbird, and wish to change the file name, via the Ctrl S, then I have to go into the actual folder to do this, instead of changing it via Thunderbird. The folder and its contents shows up when selecting "Ctrl S", but you can't change anything in there. |
| 19:21.30 | jhutchins | Okee: Thunderbird is not intended to be a file manager. |
| 19:21.59 | jhutchins | Okee: If there's a way to use it that way you might ask in #firefox. |
| 19:22.17 | flo|va-nu-pied | Okee: when I right click on a mail and save mail as , I can enter any file name I want.eml |
| 19:22.32 | Okee | jhutchins> True, but the file manager could be made a little more flexible, so as to save people time. |
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| 19:23.03 | Okee | flo|va-nu-pied> You can enter any file name you want, but once entered, you can't change it with the same command routine, unless you go into the actual folder where the file is located at. |
| 19:23.36 | flo|va-nu-pied | ah ok so I agree with jhutchins answer :) |
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| 19:24.54 | MasterPiece | rsyslog.d/iptables.conf doesn't split /var/log/syslog messages, Any Ideas? |
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| 19:25.13 | MasterPiece | root@smss-network:~# cat /etc/rsyslog.d/iptables.conf |
| 19:25.13 | MasterPiece | :msg,contains,"***[iptables]*** " /var/log/iptables.log |
| 19:25.13 | MasterPiece | root@smss-network:~# cat /var/log/iptables.log |
| 19:25.13 | MasterPiece | root@smss-network:~# |
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| 19:34.20 | RoyK | MasterPiece: better use ULOG |
| 19:34.26 | jhutchins | MasterPiece: http://www.rsyslog.com/storing-messages-from-a-remote-system-into-a-specific-file/ or you may need to follow http://www.rsyslog.com/storing-and-forwarding-remote-messages/ |
| 19:34.46 | jhutchins | MasterPiece: You did restart the process, right? |
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| 19:35.07 | MasterPiece | Yeah, I restart it after configurations |
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| 19:37.35 | jhutchins | MasterPiece: I didn't even think you could do that with the iptables.conf. |
| 19:38.28 | MasterPiece | whats my wrong? please tell me :) |
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| 19:40.40 | jhutchins | Ok, messing with my own head. You're doing an rsyslog.conf, which is what those links are for. |
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| 19:41.03 | jhutchins | MasterPiece: My mistake. |
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| 19:49.08 | jhutchins | MasterPiece: My guess is either a syntax error or where in the file you're definig the filter. |
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| 19:50.23 | MasterPiece | jhutchins: No, if there have some errors, mentioned in syslog, but while the rsyslog is restarting, everything except the following is good and normal |
| 19:50.25 | MasterPiece | rsyslogd-2039: Could not open output pipe '/dev/xconsole' |
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| 19:50.53 | MasterPiece | I remove iptables.conf from rsyslog.d and add in to the last of 50-defaults.conf |
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| 19:52.55 | FinboySlick | I need the opinion of a /bin/dash expert with respect to https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=730477. As far as I can understand, the only way such a situation would occur is if sudo wasn't able to tell the tty to turn off echo. Anyone more knowledgeable about such things willing to help validate this? |
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| 19:54.12 | MasterPiece | Uhhh, Thats file permission :D :D, chown syslog.adm /var/log/iptables.log |
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| 19:56.14 | tremon | FinboySlick: why a dash expert? nothing there suggests that root's shell is /bin/sh |
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| 19:56.48 | FinboySlick | tremon: Shell: /bin/sh linked to /bin/dash |
| 19:57.19 | tremon | FinboySlick: yes, but you are also assuming that /etc/passwd contains root:[..]:/bin/sh, which it normally doesn't |
| 19:58.22 | tremon | which doesn't invalidate your theory that the issue is with the shell ignoring echo on/off commands btw |
| 19:58.23 | FinboySlick | tremon: By the time sudo asks for a password, it's running as root? |
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| 19:59.10 | tremon | FinboySlick: it's a suid binary, so presumably yes |
| 19:59.20 | FinboySlick | tremon: (I'm trying to educate myself on just what is going on here) |
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| 20:01.08 | heurist | FinboySlick: are you the poster of that bug report? have you experienced this yourself? if not there is no confirmation that it happened, nor enough data in the report to learn much. |
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| 20:01.10 | tremon | FinboySlick: your guess is probably as good as mine as to when EUID transitions happen in sudo, but I just don't think dash enters the picture anywhere |
| 20:01.31 | galex-713 | Hello, why isnât erc-tls present in Debian Jessy within emacs? it was in Wheezy and Sid afaik |
| 20:01.49 | heurist | galex-713: questions about jessie are better addressed to #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
| 20:02.08 | galex-713 | ok |
| 20:02.20 | galex-713 | I found the issue I think netherless |
| 20:02.40 | galex-713 | I launched emacs23, not 24 (I donât know why both are present) |
| 20:03.24 | heurist | galex-713: they are not compatible, so many people need to use a specific version. the emacs guys keep changing the formats. |
| 20:04.12 | richac | does vmtools come installed with debian? |
| 20:04.27 | galex-713 | ah ok |
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| 20:04.36 | galex-713 | So ok, thanks anyway and bye ^^ |
| 20:04.41 | heurist | ,v vmtools |
| 20:04.43 | judd | No package named 'vmtools' was found in i386. |
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| 20:04.51 | heurist | richac: does not look like it. |
| 20:05.16 | richac | so how the heck did it get installed on my machine? lol |
| 20:05.17 | tremon | richac: assuming you mean vmware's linux integration tools, installed: no, packaged, yes |
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| 20:06.05 | richac | oh with pam.d maybe? |
| 20:06.31 | richac | hmm |
| 20:06.32 | tremon | richac: apt-cache policy and apt-cache show can show you the origins of packages |
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| 20:07.05 | heurist | richac: dpkg -S `which vmtools` may tell you which package the vmtools binary came from. |
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| 20:07.07 | tremon | but the debian package is called open-vm-tools |
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| 20:08.43 | richac | installed 5/21/2012? |
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| 20:10.36 | OnkelTem | What is the debian way to set mysql root user password after non-interactive installation of mysql server? |
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| 20:10.57 | OnkelTem | Or rahter - is there a debian way to do that? |
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| 20:17.58 | FinboySlick | heurist: I'm the new lxterminal maintainer (sorry, work pulled me away). I'd very much hate to respond "not lxterminal's problem" without being damn sure of it. I'm pretty sure, but not enough. |
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| 20:21.48 | heurist | FinboySlick: nearly a year and no confirmation. I would start thinking about bumping it, giving it a month or so and then closing it. (: But then I am not the maintainer. so that is easy to say. good luck with that. (: |
| 20:22.06 | synmuffin | so there has to be something thats choking my system up, as all it's running is a MySQL server where would i start even looking? I know it's not the network I've ruled that out? what would i look at next? |
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| 20:23.16 | heurist | synmuffin: top, htop, atop, iotop. would all be places to start. tcpdump would be next. |
| 20:23.44 | FinboySlick | heurist: I'm finding out that maintaining a terminal gets you all kinds of bug reports for shell stuff ;) I have another bug that complains about bash history being saved when HISTSIZE=0. |
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| 20:25.36 | heurist | FinboySlick: are you saying the terminal is not the same as the shell! surely not! (: I see questions about the menus and window decoration for bash too. |
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| 20:26.11 | FinboySlick | heurist: You maintain bash? |
| 20:26.22 | FinboySlick | Or you meant here? |
| 20:26.36 | heurist | FinboySlick: happily not. just questions from peasants. (: |
| 20:26.59 | synmuffin | is this considered slow? Timing cached reads: 7452 MB in 2.00 seconds = 3732.41 MB/sec |
| 20:26.59 | synmuffin | Timing buffered disk reads: 354 MB in 3.01 seconds = 117.43 MB/sec |
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| 20:27.38 | FinboySlick | synmuffin: On a mechanical disk, that's pretty good. |
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| 20:28.08 | synmuffin | :/ then i have no f'in clue anymore. |
| 20:28.28 | heurist | synmuffin: remember to run that a few times and average them. but those figures are pretty nice for mechanical. |
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| 20:29.25 | FinboySlick | synmuffin: Well, I might have missed earlier posts but I'm not sure how you measure/feel the sluggishness. Your GUI is unresponsive? This a server and the sql queries are slow? |
| 20:29.29 | heurist | synmuffin: why do you say it is chocking? |
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| 20:29.51 | synmuffin | i had on server, running both tomcat6 and mysql uesd to serve OSCAR, was maxing out that servers resources, so i took the mysql db and moved it, to it's own server, its a huge IBM System p5 nice hardware, since the move OSCAR has been slower on everything |
| 20:30.14 | synmuffin | slower by 5+ seconds 10+ seconds when loading scheduales |
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| 20:30.19 | synmuffin | very query intensive |
| 20:30.30 | synmuffin | one* |
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| 20:31.11 | FinboySlick | synmuffin: I'm not familiar with the interactions between your DB and tomcat/app, but if you were latency-bound, moving it to another machine might have harmed you. |
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| 20:31.18 | heurist | synmuffin: you did just add network times to your queries. look at optimizing the queries. |
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| 20:31.35 | richac | this is interesting, this guy has my exact problem http://comments.gmane.org/gmane.linux.debian.user/471002 |
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| 20:33.02 | synmuffin | sadly query just won't happen as OSCAR is a HUGE bitch and while its sloopy at best it was not this slow while all were on the same server |
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| 20:34.27 | heurist | synmuffin: I assume the new database server is better hardware then the old combined one? maybe move the app to the database server, so they are both on the same server. |
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| 20:34.44 | synmuffin | Yah i mean if I have to |
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| 20:34.57 | synmuffin | yah its a much better server and if I have to i will do that |
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| 20:35.06 | heurist | synmuffin: at least to test if it makes things better. |
| 20:35.30 | synmuffin | yah thats a large job, and gotta do it on the weekend cause now it's live medical data :( |
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| 20:36.21 | synmuffin | oscar is just so shit it makes me so mad, and even more so that the medical community here in ontario really want to use it and adopted it cause it's free |
| 20:36.22 | synmuffin | :/ |
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| 20:37.20 | fiola | oscar? |
| 20:37.47 | synmuffin | yas OSCAR medial |
| 20:37.56 | synmuffin | http://oscarcanada.org/about-oscar/brief-overview/support/download |
| 20:38.06 | fiola | Cheers |
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| 20:38.35 | synmuffin | its a shitty peice of software creaded by some jerk who read a book and thought he could code... but hey it's free so physicans etc... love it |
| 20:39.11 | synmuffin | dispite the fact that i'm 100% sure a downs monkey could drool out a better peice of software |
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| 20:40.00 | synmuffin | jut to give you an idea, 90% of the tables don't even using any form of indexing |
| 20:40.12 | heurist | synmuffin: we understand your frustration, but we try to keep the language family friendly in this channel. thanks |
| 20:40.38 | synmuffin | sorry my bad |
| 20:41.21 | fiola | There is no professional accredication nor anything else that assures software quality, neither in that area nor in any other with possible exception of military, so it's no surprise that so much software is dreadful. There is no real fix for it. |
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| 20:41.46 | synmuffin | :( yah it hurts my life |
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| 20:42.09 | richac | I'm going to have to ecnrypt my folders, change passwords, and keep the internet unplugged till i configure the security I guess |
| 20:42.39 | fiola | The entire software sector is deep in the grip of amateurism, which is why there are millions of software crashes around the world each day. It's not the same standard as engineering bridges. |
| 20:42.57 | catpig | fiola, too many moving parts |
| 20:43.12 | fiola | Yup |
| 20:43.26 | catpig | lets make a small estimate and say on a normal desktop you use 50 million lines and each line averages 4 things. that's 200 million moving parts |
| 20:43.41 | catpig | i like to calculate that way anyways ;) |
| 20:44.28 | fiola | catpig: It's not just an analogy with mechanical "parts" either. In software, "parts" should be immutable and long-term assessed for quality. But such a thing isn't even a twinkle in anyone's eye today. |
| 20:44.37 | jhutchins | fiola: My systems don't crash. |
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| 20:45.43 | fiola | jhutchins: Only because you happen to stress only well-trodden parts in your systems. *All* non-trivial software has latent faults, there's no exception. |
| 20:45.52 | synmuffin | ty guys |
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| 20:46.11 | heurist | fiola: bash did not have any. |
| 20:46.16 | fiola | Hahaha |
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| 20:46.24 | fiola | heurist +1 |
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| 20:46.38 | heurist | yay, point! |
| 20:47.33 | fiola | It's a sad state of affairs, but that's where we are in software. The profession is very much at the stage of reading chicken entrails. |
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| 20:59.47 | Anuska | Hi, i need to configure a server mail on my debian, can anyone give me some tutorials? |
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| 21:01.18 | SynrGy | Smuckerz: i was out walking ... |
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| 21:01.54 | fiola | Anuska: This help at all? https://wiki.debian.org/Exim --- Been a long time since I used Exim though |
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| 21:02.11 | Anuska | thanks |
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| 21:02.52 | Smuckerz | SynrGy, ahh fun fun, hope you had a good walk :) |
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| 21:03.50 | Smuckerz | everything got taken care of on my end, kernel is updated and i've only got GRUB going, no Xen involvement |
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| 21:05.02 | SynrGy | Smuckerz: great. |
| 21:05.11 | SynrGy | Smuckerz: so that was, as i suspected, a false lead |
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| 21:05.30 | Dirkos | There is no cron log in /var/log |
| 21:05.36 | Dirkos | does this indicate that cron is not running? |
| 21:05.36 | SynrGy | Smuckerz: anyway, for future support sessions, remember that context for error messages is important :) |
| 21:05.59 | SynrGy | Smuckerz: hoping the new kernel is less crashy. can you tell already, or will you have to wait longer? |
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| 21:06.31 | SynrGy | Dirkos: cron sends output per job to the appropriate user |
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| 21:06.57 | SynrGy | Dirkos: you should be able to see *when* cron runs, though, in /var/log/syslog |
| 21:07.29 | Dirkos | well there is nothing in there |
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| 21:08.05 | Dirkos | 0 * * * * export APP_ENV=production; php /var/domains/www.hardstyletop40.com/website/public/index.php crawler > /dev/null 2>&1 |
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| 21:08.14 | Dirkos | this is not that special, the command works like a charm |
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| 21:08.42 | Anuska | Hi, my subdomain for email need to be A or MX ? |
| 21:08.47 | SynrGy | Dirkos: i'm not saying you'll see a syslog entry per script run by cron |
| 21:08.49 | richac | are you guys sure open-vm-tools is not installed by default on debian wheezy? |
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| 21:09.28 | Dirkos | SynrGy: well but i have nothing and the script did not run tbh |
| 21:09.40 | heurist | richac: why is "default" important? is it installed on your system? what does aptitude why open-vm-tools say? |
| 21:09.41 | SynrGy | Dirkos: but more like this level of detail: http://paste.debian.net/126253/ |
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| 21:10.11 | richac | let me try |
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| 21:10.52 | Dirkos | SynrGy: http://paste.debian.net/126254/ |
| 21:10.54 | Dirkos | this is all i have |
| 21:11.05 | richac | heurist: i'm just wondering if my pc has been compromised, because i was unable to build kernel headers today, and I found out the reason is i have this package on my machine, but I have been buidling kernels for the past couple days with same kernel version and never got an error until today |
| 21:11.07 | SynrGy | Dirkos: do you have a user named 'export'? |
| 21:11.18 | Dirkos | nope |
| 21:11.26 | SynrGy | Dirkos: humm, oh, is this a user crontab? |
| 21:11.35 | SynrGy | this is not /etc/crontab? |
| 21:11.37 | Dirkos | this is the root user crontab |
| 21:11.56 | Dirkos | no this is the /var/log/syslog |
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| 21:12.28 | SynrGy | er, i mean the line above |
| 21:12.58 | SynrGy | which i at first thought was an excerpt from /etc/crontab (And therefore missing user field) |
| 21:13.13 | SynrGy | tbh, i have never used user crontabs with root |
| 21:14.01 | Dirkos | well its the same as every other user |
| 21:14.11 | Dirkos | but i dont see the trigger that cron is executing a script? |
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| 21:21.50 | Smuckerz | SynrG, yeah the crashes where sometimes within a day, sometimes on a 2nd or 3rd day |
| 21:22.58 | Smuckerz | SynrGy, ^^^^ |
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| 21:32.32 | nezZario | So |
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| 21:32.43 | nezZario | Is there any paritcular vendor I should be looking at if I wanted to run debian on a laptop? |
| 21:32.53 | nezZario | I don't see a hardware compat page anywhere unless I'm missing |
| 21:33.15 | Anuska | Is oky this tutorial for mail server ? https://workaround.org/ispmail/wheezy |
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| 21:33.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, laptop |
| 21:33.29 | dpkg | All there is worth knowing about Linux and laptops can be found at http://www.linux-laptop.net/ and http://tuxmobil.org/mylaptops.html . For Thinkpads, ask me about <thinkpad>. Also ask me about <acpi>, <laptop mode>, <netbook>, <pcmcia>, <suspend>. http://wiki.debian.org/InstallingDebianOn . See also the debian-laptop mailing list: http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/ |
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| 21:35.58 | iio7 | I have just installed samba on wheezy and smbclient shows the share etc. However, when I try to mount from a client box, I get "unable to open connection: syserr = No such file or directory". Looking on the server in the samba log I see this strange error: http://pastebin.com/Jsxc96yV |
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| 21:37.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | iio7, you installed it, but you haven't configured it? |
| 21:37.25 | iio7 | Yes, of course |
| 21:37.46 | iio7 | One sec |
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| 21:38.18 | iio7 | http://pastebin.com/mfvQ7qkc |
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| 21:38.59 | grzeslaw | hi! anyone familiar with chroot issue on vsftpd 2.3.5-3 on wheezy ? |
| 21:39.13 | iio7 | I am using the same setup on a couple of other Debian boxes with no problems. |
| 21:39.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | not sure if the unable-to-connect error really is the same as on the server... but what happened when you just made that directory |
| 21:40.19 | iio7 | What directory? |
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| 21:40.24 | jelly-home | Anuska: far as tutorials go, workaround.org stuff is fine, but realize there's much more to running a mail server that successfully following a tutorial |
| 21:40.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | the one from the pastebin... /var/lib/samba/usershares/var |
| 21:41.05 | grzeslaw | from about week I am dealing with chroot issue on vsftpd ... if here is someone which could take a look, it will be vvvveeeeeeeeeeeeeery appreciated..: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=5253778 |
| 21:41.15 | Anuska | jelly-home, what you sugesting? |
| 21:41.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | but really I think your error isn't connected with that message... that looks more like a warning that can be ignored |
| 21:41.46 | iio7 | CutMeOwnThroat, but nothing gets mounted. |
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| 21:42.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | oh yes... that completely leaves open what the real problem is :) |
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| 21:42.30 | jelly-home | Anuska: to be keenly aware SMTP and IMAP are complex and there's lots of stuff to learn |
| 21:42.40 | Anuska | aham |
| 21:43.18 | Zeranoe | I recently updated my Debian testing machine that is running as a VBox guest and now all I can see is blackness. Something must have broken display with the updates |
| 21:43.21 | Brigo | Anuska, it is a good start. |
| 21:43.35 | Anuska | thanks Brigo . |
| 21:43.51 | Anuska | jelly-home, if i not try... never learn!! you learn by testing & study |
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| 21:44.29 | jelly-home | Anuska: sure, but getting blacklisted or pwned is not too nice |
| 21:44.33 | Brigo | Anuska, i use it to install my own mail server just few week ago. And i can say it is good, but not perfect. |
| 21:44.38 | CutMeOwnThroat | iio7, well, if you have lots of similar boxes where it works... compare, compare, compare... does that error/warning appear in the logs on the other boxes (and if not, do that have that directory)? you might try smbclient for connecting, it's often giving better error messages than a mount... |
| 21:44.48 | Anuska | jelly-home, if you are stupid and only you know what is good! and other person are not oki for you ! go in the cave |
| 21:45.05 | Anuska | Brigo, :* |
| 21:45.57 | SynrGy | Smuckerz: i see. do you reboot during that time, or just suspend or hibernate between times? |
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| 21:46.01 | Brigo | Anuska, jelly-home is only trying to help you. |
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| 21:46.53 | Brigo | Anuska, He is a wise sysadmin, you should listen him |
| 21:48.22 | richac | lol |
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| 21:54.16 | Zeranoe | I had the Debian guest additions installed istead of VBox's. Installing VBox's semmes to have fixed this |
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| 22:39.00 | kyle__ | I'm trying to verify my packages using dpkg -V, and keep on seeing the error, "dpkg: error: control file 'md5sums' missing value separator" What exactly does it mean? When I extract the md5sums file out of the package, it appears complete, with no missing seperators or empty lines. |
| 22:39.34 | SynrGy | give us an example |
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| 22:40.05 | kyle__ | dpkg -V chef |
| 22:40.05 | dpkg | kyle__: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 22:40.13 | kyle__ | dpkg: error: control file 'md5sums' missing value separator |
| 22:40.13 | dpkg | kyle__: I wish you would RTFM. |
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| 22:40.23 | kyle__ | sorry dpkg bot. |
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| 22:43.11 | kyle__ | The error occurs across multiple servers with that package installed. I'm trying to figure out what exactly it's complaining about. |
| 22:43.57 | SynrGy | the chef from stable? |
| 22:44.04 | kyle__ | Yes |
| 22:44.43 | kyle__ | I just walked through the script to make sure that's the one I was getting. |
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| 22:46.44 | SynrGy | kyle__: does it agree with what's in /var/lib/dpkg/info/chef.md5sums? |
| 22:46.54 | SynrGy | i mean, the one extracted from the deb |
| 22:47.14 | kyle__ | Yes :( |
| 22:47.46 | kyle__ | And if I run md5sum -c on that file, I get all OKs. |
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| 22:50.04 | SynrGy | don't know. i think you need a dpkg guru to answer this one. |
| 22:50.25 | SynrGy | try looking at the dpkg source? |
| 22:51.22 | heurist | my dpkg does not even *have* a -V |
| 22:53.34 | kyle__ | Hrum. I thought that was a general command, but perhaps is ubuntu specific. |
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| 22:55.12 | SynrGy | no |
| 22:55.15 | kyle__ | maybe it's in jessie onwoards? |
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| 22:55.44 | SynrGy | i can confirm its presence in sid, yeah |
| 22:55.58 | kyle__ | Oh ok. |
| 22:56.01 | Devastator | a-ha, ubuntu user detected :P |
| 22:56.35 | kyle__ | Devastator: multi-distro user. Deb on my servers, ubuntu on ones with openstack. And this is a dpkg specific question :) |
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| 22:58.06 | Devastator | kyle__ if you see this behavior in jessie, I think #debian-next in irc.oftc.net is a better place to ask about it |
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| 22:58.45 | kyle__ | K. The -v flag doesn't appear to be in stable yet. I may try there. |
| 22:58.54 | kyle__ | Going to grep through the source first. |
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