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| 00:02.37 | rakma2 | Want to setup a simple sftp server for several users on my Debian box, any suggestions? |
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| 00:03.20 | rakma2 | Ideally, I'd like the user's NOT to be able to login via SSH, and be limited as to what directories they are able to see |
| 00:03.38 | calvin__ | use scponly? |
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| 00:04.34 | phy1729 | or the internal sftp-server and ChrootDirectory |
| 00:05.06 | rakma2 | hmmm |
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| 00:05.40 | rebauld | more detailed sftp setup info in #openssh (of course) |
| 00:05.42 | rakma2 | phy1729: I like that idea, however... chrooting sounds like it would be a pain in the ass |
| 00:05.59 | phy1729 | http://www.debian-administration.org/article/590/OpenSSH_SFTP_chroot_with_ChrootDirectory |
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| 00:06.38 | rakma2 | phy1729: Wow, very nice AND detailed. Thank you |
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| 00:20.56 | rakma2 | Okay quick question, when 'chrooting' a directory, why must it be owned by root? |
| 00:21.19 | rakma2 | Isn't the purpose of it to only be owned by the sftp user? |
| 00:22.10 | Dewi | rakma2: wouldn't that imply the user could delete / ? |
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| 00:22.39 | rakma2 | Ah I see |
| 00:22.46 | rakma2 | Sorry, I'm a rookie ;P |
| 00:23.23 | Dewi | rakma2: I don't actually know the reason, but in general it's used to limit the target environment quite severely, so it doesn't seem like a bad thing to not own / |
| 00:23.26 | rakma2 | But wouldn't it be chown root.user /home/user |
| 00:23.43 | rakma2 | rather than root.root /home/user |
| 00:24.00 | rakma2 | it seems like if it's root.root then ONLY root would have permission to make any type of change |
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| 00:25.39 | rebauld | root is the one making the chroot |
| 00:25.57 | rebauld | it is the way openssh works |
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| 00:27.20 | rakma2 | ah okay |
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| 00:31.11 | rakma2 | Interesting, so chrooting, you're literally creating an entire filesystem/container |
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| 00:52.38 | seeker62 | when trying to install wolf4sid and game data packager i get an error saying i have broken packages and when i try to fix them i get "pkgProblemResolver::Resolve generated breaks, this may be caused by held packages." |
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| 00:53.47 | ksk | 02:51 <dpkg> You are person #1 to send an unparseable request |
| 00:53.48 | ksk | :( |
| 00:54.50 | ksk | rakma2: nah, you must have that filesystem alrady, you can just "switch into it". a chroot is not really secure though, you might want to take a look at containervirtulisation(like lxc, openvz) |
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| 01:05.48 | drumr | Can someone please help me with a driver installation issue. http://pastebin.com/SnvpJxNA I was able to install this in Wheezy but having issues in Jessie. I installed wireless tools and the firmware from the non free repo. |
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| 01:06.33 | heurist | drumr: questions about jessie are better addressed to #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
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| 01:07.32 | drumr | thank you |
| 01:07.35 | Brigo | drumr, i think this driver is already in jessie kernels. |
| 01:07.46 | drumr | it is but not functional |
| 01:08.34 | drumr | It cannot detect it properly. wlan0 cannot be interfaced with |
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| 01:31.28 | phy1729 | ksk: chroot can be secure if you don't messup |
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| 01:41.22 | rudi_s | Well, a chroot provides a certain level of isolation. |
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| 01:57.25 | bigterd | quick question, ssh-keygen bitches about 32768 bit keys. i'm assuming i need to change af ew things in source code? |
| 01:57.57 | bigterd | ooorrr, are gpg keys compatiblity for rsa format? i already compiled and changed that source. |
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| 02:00.25 | heurist | bigterd: ssh keys are not the same as gpg keys. note that you may have to change the source of every ssh server you connect to as well, not many things use keys of that size. |
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| 02:01.21 | Sway | iirc 16k was the max supported bits. After that you run into issues |
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| 02:05.19 | bigterd | heurist: noted. |
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| 02:16.36 | phr33d00m | hi |
| 02:16.40 | phr33d00m | anyone here a C coder? |
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| 02:17.15 | heurist | phr33d00m: they are in ##c |
| 02:17.30 | phr33d00m | cool |
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| 02:18.06 | heurist | dpkg: tell phr33d00m -about msg |
| 02:18.33 | phr33d00m | heurist: are you a C coder? |
| 02:18.51 | heurist | phr33d00m: not at the moment. |
| 02:19.23 | phr33d00m | c00l |
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| 02:19.38 | ShapeShifter499 | hi |
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| 02:20.03 | ShapeShifter499 | wine configuration on debian wheezy just fails to complete, it just sits there |
| 02:20.08 | ShapeShifter499 | any one here know why? |
| 02:20.30 | ShapeShifter499 | the initial configuration |
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| 03:35.50 | poodlelover | getting errors when running apt-get update: http://snipurl.com/29d1idc |
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| 04:14.06 | towski | I'm not sure how to handle my hard drive filling up |
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| 04:14.22 | towski | it would be nice to just have a list of files that haven't been touched in a couple months |
| 04:14.30 | towski | some auto cleanup script |
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| 04:16.16 | phy1729 | /etc/passwd hasn't been touched in a few months, lets trash it! |
| 04:16.26 | phy1729 | ^ Don't do that |
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| 04:17.07 | towski | heh |
| 04:17.21 | towski | yeah maybe just limit it to my home dir |
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| 04:18.35 | towski | a simple gui for showing the big offenders would be nice |
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| 04:18.43 | phy1729 | even then I'd be careful with an automatic deletion script |
| 04:19.43 | towski | well maybe just rm with prompt |
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| 04:20.37 | towski | I have a ton of debian packages installed to, is there some way to see the total size of all packages |
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| 04:23.23 | themill | !d[igs |
| 04:23.25 | themill | !dpigs |
| 04:23.25 | dpkg | dpigs is a utility showing which installed packages occupy the most space. Available in the debian-goodies package. |
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| 04:27.20 | towski | I summed all my package installed sizes, and got 9149379 |
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| 04:28.32 | towski | but that seems small |
| 04:28.58 | themill | that's in kB |
| 04:29.35 | towski | isn't that just like 9gb? |
| 04:29.37 | themill | 9GB is even more crap installed than I have on my laptop -- good effort. |
| 04:30.53 | towski | heh |
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| 04:31.52 | towski | valgrind-dbg is pretty big for something I couldn't get to work |
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| 04:33.27 | towski | well my homedir is 207G which is probably a good place to start |
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| 04:53.37 | Arven | I've read about (seemingly mythical) alternatives to Kerberos in NFS. I'm mostly interested in a way of authenticating in a completely decentralized manner. |
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| 04:57.04 | towski | isn't that what keys are for |
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| 04:58.43 | Arven | Yes, but it does seem to depend on a KDC, which is very centralized. |
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| 05:00.44 | heurist | Arven: I am not saying it is sane, but you could run a kdc on each node, that would be "decentralized". but what is your aim here? |
| 05:02.51 | Arven | heurist: My aim is to basically have host-based authentication that's not "trusted" like NFS |
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| 05:03.43 | heurist | Arven: some central authority needs to decide if it is trusted though. |
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| 05:03.53 | Arven | One case is I have a laptop that I want to be able to share data with other users |
| 05:04.20 | heurist | Arven: nfs over vpn comes to mind. |
| 05:04.21 | Arven | I want it shared "globally" regardless of what IP I happen to be on, but I don't want it to be globally accessible. |
| 05:06.19 | Arven | heurist: I guess that's a possible solution, but seems to be needless complexity. |
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| 05:08.21 | Arven | heurist: I'm not sure of the security of normal password-based SSH authention |
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| 05:09.58 | heurist | Arven: use ssh keys. |
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| 05:12.21 | Arven | I do typically try to avoid password login though, but it's so much easier to set up than, say, Kerberos/NFS |
| 05:12.41 | Arven | err, ssh keys are a lot easier |
| 05:12.47 | heurist | Arven: you can also make a "share" user, put the files in their home (hardlinks maybe) add the keys of the people you want to give access, and have them use sshfs. possibly with one of the many solutions to keep that user in their home. |
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| 05:13.38 | heurist | Arven: kerberos is a pain to set up. |
| 05:13.49 | Arven | sshfs is convenient, yes, though it does have the full encryption overhead. then again, passwords leaked from file transfers... |
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| 05:15.53 | Arven | heurist: there appear to be other key based auth methods in GSSAPI but I can't really find other documentation on this. |
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| 05:16.08 | Arven | and I have a feeling it's actually more of a pain than kerberos to set up. |
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| 05:19.36 | heurist | Arven: kerberos was the only really workable solution. |
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| 05:26.01 | Arven | I honestly can't figure out why, then again I also heard about something called "Secure RPC" that might have been/still be something of a solution. |
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| 05:29.42 | heurist | Arven: you still some way of knowing that they are who they say they are, some central place needs to be able to verify that. |
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| 05:42.26 | pl | Hello. Who is allowed to vote in issues like https://lists.debian.org/debian-vote/2014/10/msg00001.html (Re-Proposal - preserve freedom of choice of init systems)? |
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| 05:44.54 | nojeffre1 | i have a debian 6 box, I've ran apt-get install --only-upgrade bash, bash is now on version 4.1.5(1), but i run these bash test, apparently i'm still vulnerable |
| 05:45.10 | nojeffre1 | env x='() { :;}; echo vulnerable' bash -c "echo this is a test" |
| 05:45.21 | nojeffre1 | this echo's vulnerable |
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| 05:50.27 | heurist | nojeffre1: are you using squeeze-lts? |
| 05:50.33 | heurist | dpkg: tell nojeffre1 -about squeeze-lts |
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| 05:53.03 | nojeffre1 | deb http://security.debian.org/ squeeze/updates main ? |
| 05:53.37 | heurist | nojeffre1: did you see the message the bot sent you? |
| 05:53.54 | nojeffre1 | heurist yes but it had weird formatting in it |
| 05:54.00 | nojeffre1 | issue on my end |
| 05:55.00 | heurist | nojeffre1: deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ squeeze-lts main |
| 05:55.22 | nojeffre1 | heurist thanks |
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| 06:54.38 | vozz | Hi, I'm trying to create an init.d script, I copied /etc/init.d/skeleton and modified it to run my binary, but it hangs. Is this because it prints to stdout, and how do I fix it? |
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| 07:02.45 | cast | vozz: find out why it hangs? |
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| 07:03.42 | towski | is there a way to see and modify the debian gnome authentication passwords |
| 07:04.04 | towski | I get this auth pop-up periodically and it won't let me escape to copy paste the password |
| 07:04.19 | towski | auth pop-up for evolution |
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| 07:05.59 | petn-randall | towski: Not without compromising security. It does capture of mouse/keyboard to ensure that the keypresses go to that application. |
| 07:06.08 | towski | well I don't want to see the password |
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| 07:06.32 | towski | maybe evolution calendar is requesting the password |
| 07:06.39 | petn-randall | towski: What do you mean? You don't get to see the password. |
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| 07:08.34 | towski | well, so I want to trigger the evolution auth request manually |
| 07:08.49 | towski | I see you're saying copy paste is no go |
| 07:09.04 | towski | guess I'll just memorize this dumb generated password then |
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| 07:09.55 | towski | well I mean I can copy paste it just uses the current buffer, which is usually something else |
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| 07:39.31 | narbeh | The debian server 7.3 is rebooting everyday. Where can I find the log file? |
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| 07:45.32 | narbeh | debconf: Thanks. |
| 07:45.41 | digdilem | <PROTECTED> |
| 07:46.10 | digdilem | if it's the same time every day, check the crontabs |
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| 07:52.30 | darthanubis | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=758619 |
| 07:53.47 | darthanubis | http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=117788 |
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| 07:54.12 | user1008 | i am trying to upgrade from oldstable to stable, i ended up with the following error https://gist.github.com/anonymous/a33700678c23ca823a38 apt seems to broken :( |
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| 08:01.46 | Geronim32 | hi guys I have installed a software manager from the synaptic pakage manager, a debian user advised me to don't download software from there becaise it is part of canonical, the ubuntu developer and I could use Synaptic instead, I have uninstalled that pakage but seems it has installe another package, Update Manager, it is from Canonical as well, would you unistall it as well? seems that it search for uptade but it is from canonical, not d |
| 08:01.46 | Geronim32 | ebian . Let me knoe please...... |
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| 08:02.53 | darthanubis | Geronim32, of course |
| 08:02.59 | darthanubis | purge that shit |
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| 08:03.23 | ag4ve | what is gir/gobject? |
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| 08:03.56 | Geronim32 | yea I am trying to erase that unwanded stuff, maybe is better |
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| 08:06.48 | Geronim32 | do you think is enough to erase it from synaptic simply clicking on: mark on comlete removal? |
| 08:07.08 | Geronim32 | I am not so good with the terminal :( |
| 08:07.24 | LordDeath | will anti-systemd fraction could use emacs for their Debian fork :D http://www.informatimago.com/linux/emacs-on-user-mode-linux.html?repost |
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| 08:07.57 | Geronim32 | I have found 2 files related to UpdateManager |
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| 08:08.25 | Dewi | LordDeath: what's the gist of the anti-systemd thing? I've read some rants but didn't get it |
| 08:08.29 | Dewi | :) |
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| 08:09.12 | ag4ve | Geronim32: apt-file search <package name> |
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| 08:09.51 | ag4ve | you'll probably need to install apt-file, but that'll show you all the files a package (installed or not) contains |
| 08:10.13 | Geronim32 | got it |
| 08:10.20 | LordDeath | Dewi: as an outsider it seems like this isn't about systemd anymore. it is just about some people who don't want to "lose" a debate |
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| 08:12.47 | Geronim32 | ok I have to install apt-file. Is it ok to digit this to install it? sudo apt-get install apt-file |
| 08:12.50 | Geronim32 | ??? |
| 08:13.04 | ag4ve | LordDeath++ |
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| 08:13.49 | ag4ve | Geronim32: yes |
| 08:14.08 | Geronim32 | great i am improving... :) |
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| 08:14.09 | ag4ve | might as well su - as you're going to need to be root to update the file db anyway |
| 08:14.38 | ag4ve | err, that might not've been clean: su - |
| 08:14.45 | ag4ve | *clear |
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| 08:15.16 | Geronim32 | su - INSTEAD of sudo? |
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| 08:16.17 | __raven_ | hi |
| 08:16.17 | Geronim32 | anyway for now I will try sudo, then I will try to learn su - later |
| 08:16.34 | Gforce | Hi,Why did iceweasel just jumped to ver 31 from 24??? |
| 08:16.54 | heurist | Geronim32: do not use su anymore, sudo -i is the same thing as su - |
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| 08:17.10 | qjqqyy | Gforce: you're tracking ESR releases then |
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| 08:17.37 | Dewi | Gforce: which release of debian are you running? |
| 08:17.46 | Dewi | Gforce: stable looks like 24 still |
| 08:17.54 | ag4ve | heh, use whatever gets the job done - sudo -i is too much typing... and i never remember it :) |
| 08:18.14 | Gforce | Dewi:weezy.It's really weird! |
| 08:18.15 | Geronim32 | ok got it |
| 08:18.16 | user1008 | i am trying to upgrade from squeeze to wheezy, i have run into a few errors |
| 08:18.18 | user1008 | https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5af629d7a6af6acbeb91 |
| 08:18.20 | heurist | ,v iceweasel |
| 08:18.22 | judd | Package: iceweasel on i386 -- squeeze-security: 3.5.16-20; squeeze: 3.5.16-20; squeeze-backports: 10.0.12esr-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 24.4.0esr-1~deb7u2; jessie: 31.1.0esr-1; wheezy-security: 31.2.0esr-2~deb7u1; sid: 31.2.0esr-2; experimental: 33.0-2 |
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| 08:18.32 | user1008 | please have a look |
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| 08:19.29 | user1008 | i don't know if rebooting would kill the SO |
| 08:19.30 | user1008 | OS |
| 08:20.17 | Gforce | iceweasel --version |
| 08:20.17 | Gforce | Mozilla Iceweasel 31.2.0 |
| 08:20.45 | Dewi | Gforce: no idea sorry. check your package sources in case binaries for testing or unstable have gotten in there |
| 08:21.05 | qjqqyy | 31 appears to be in security |
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| 08:22.31 | Dewi | qjqqyy: good point, so it is. Gforce I guess it was too hard to fix security in place? |
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| 08:23.22 | ag4ve | user1008: i'm guessing it's referring to initramfs, but unsure |
| 08:23.55 | ag4ve | here's your error (which i suspect you know since you printed a df): |
| 08:23.57 | ag4ve | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:24.28 | ag4ve | so probably google 'debian ubifs no space left' and see what pops up |
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| 08:25.09 | user1008 | ag4ve: yeah i noticed that, just didn't know what to do next, so i did an apt-get clean |
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| 08:26.07 | Gforce | II got disconnected, did I miss anything? |
| 08:26.50 | user1008 | ag4ve: df doesn't report that i have run out of space or inodes |
| 08:27.04 | ag4ve | and google says? |
| 08:28.03 | Gforce | Here's my source.list:http://paste.debian.net/127864/ |
| 08:28.22 | Gforce | Dewi:^ |
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| 08:28.36 | Geronim32 | guys this is the result of that update-manager search, please take a look, would be enough to digit: sudo apt-get purge update-manager?: http://paste.debian.net/127863/ |
| 08:28.42 | user1008 | ag4ve: google sent me to ivan kuznetzov's page first...i am now looking for other results |
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| 08:29.05 | Dewi | Gforce: thanks. it's actually a security update though, from http://security.debian.org/ |
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| 08:29.27 | Gforce | Dewi:For the poodle bug? |
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| 08:32.01 | Gforce | Dewi:It's this: https://www.debian.org/security/2014/dsa-3050 Right? |
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| 08:32.48 | Gforce | thank you. |
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| 08:34.19 | Geronim32 | help |
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| 08:52.44 | lolwin | What should a noob like me think about systems? |
| 08:52.49 | lolwin | systemd* |
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| 08:53.12 | heurist | lolwin: nothing. you do not need to worry about it. |
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| 08:54.04 | cynicallemon | who said systemd? |
| 08:54.29 | lolwin | i remember writing a init.d boot script back in the day for nginx/cassandra, would that still be compatible? |
| 08:54.46 | amnuriak | Trying to figure out why my Debian (7.6) is not giving me core dumps after seg faults. ulimit is set to 'unlimited', core_pattern is 'core', all of limits.conf is commented out |
| 08:55.25 | ChrisH | amnuriak: how is the dumping process started? |
| 08:56.12 | cynicallemon | lolwin: on wheezy it probably might be |
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| 08:57.15 | DarsVaeda | it seems there is an application called "xmlcatalog" http://linux.die.net/man/1/xmlcatalog - to setup an xml catalog, where would I find that in debian? |
| 08:57.17 | petn-randall | lolwin: SysV init scripts are the default in wheezy, so yes. |
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| 08:58.08 | heurist | DarsVaeda: libxml2-utils |
| 08:58.28 | cynicallemon | petn-randall: assuming nothing has changed about nginx or cassandra during that time as regards to startup/shutdown |
| 08:58.42 | DarsVaeda | heurist, ah great thanks, how did you find that? |
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| 08:58.51 | heurist | DarsVaeda: apt-file search xmlcatalog |
| 08:59.30 | DarsVaeda | thanks again :) |
| 08:59.34 | cynicallemon | lolwin: as far as systemd goes, im off if debian run with it |
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| 09:00.22 | petn-randall | cynicallemon: Please, this has been beaten to death, not another systemd discussion. |
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| 09:01.22 | cynicallemon | petn-randall: im not really out to start a debate about it but interestly this has popped up, http://debianfork.org/ |
| 09:01.44 | cynicallemon | petn-randall: its getting quite serious i think |
| 09:01.54 | amnuriak | ChrisH: e.g. accessing/using null pointer in a C program |
| 09:02.01 | petn-randall | cynicallemon: Highly doubt it. How many names do you see on that page? |
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| 09:02.35 | cynicallemon | petn-randall: how many users will debian be losing? |
| 09:03.14 | lolwin | yeah I've heard about a fork coming; http://www.reddit.com/r/linux/comments/2jsbgn/shall_we_fork_fedora/ |
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| 09:03.38 | petn-randall | cynicallemon: You, if you hold to your word? |
| 09:03.43 | cynicallemon | petn-randall: just saw a debian admin (400 servers) said he will go BSD if systemd stays |
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| 09:04.43 | jelly | cynicallemon: I suggest moving the non-support conversation to #debian-offtopic, it's enough the mailing lists are inundated with discussion about this, |
| 09:04.59 | lolwin | integrated systems > fractionalized systems; why not both. |
| 09:05.59 | cynicallemon | jelly: no worries i will shut up, just to say wheezy becomes jessie soon |
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| 09:06.17 | jelly | no need to shut up, just keep this frequency clear |
| 09:06.26 | cynicallemon | :) |
| 09:08.59 | ChrisH | amnuriak: my questio was HOW is the process started? I know how to get a process to coredump. expected answer: using an init script or manually from commandline |
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| 09:09.55 | amnuriak | ChrisH: commandline |
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| 09:12.31 | ChrisH | amnuriak: OK. then the confirm ulimit -c shows unlimited and the process user is allowed to write in the directory you are in while starting. or retest after a cd /tmp |
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| 09:17.58 | amnuriak | ChrisH: sigh, it was the write permissions allright. Thanks |
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| 09:25.42 | tmh1999 | Hi guys, my question my not really relates to Debian but I wish someone can help me. I want to set lower bound of cpu frequency with Intel Pstate driver( using Intel i5 3210M, ivy). I tried edit /sys/devices/system/cpu/intel_pstate/min_perf_pct and /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_min_freq but they didn't work |
| 09:26.03 | petn-randall | tmh1999: Don't crosspost. |
| 09:26.52 | tmh1999 | Oh sorry. |
| 09:27.30 | petn-randall | tmh1999: It leads to duplicated effort on both sides. It's better to pick one channel, and if nobody answered within an hour, ask on the other one. |
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| 09:28.37 | petn-randall | tmh1999: What do you want to achieve? That the CPU doesn't go into the lower frequencies? |
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| 09:28.57 | tmh1999 | Yes. I am new to IRC. I got it. |
| 09:29.15 | tmh1999 | Yes I wanted to lower the lower-bound which is 1.2GHz now. |
| 09:29.38 | tmh1999 | I am on an MBR and it's kind of hot even at 1.2GHz |
| 09:29.47 | tytan | tmh1999: Isn't that something you can set in your BIOS or UEFI? |
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| 09:30.28 | tmh1999 | Actually I can set the upper bound but with lower bound it doesn't work. I don't know how to go to BIOS or EFI setting on a MBR :| |
| 09:31.17 | tytan | tmh1999: MBR... MacBook Pro Retina? |
| 09:31.41 | tmh1999 | MBP, my bad |
| 09:32.41 | tytan | tmh1999: So you really mean a MacBook Pro? |
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| 09:33.01 | tmh1999 | Yes. A Macbook Pro 9.2. |
| 09:33.05 | tmh1999 | mid 2012 |
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| 09:33.24 | tytan | tmh1999: I have exactly the same :'D |
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| 09:33.41 | SixtyFold | does pwd mean present working directory or print working directory? |
| 09:34.53 | tmh1999 | tytan: do you have heat problem? With Debian jessie, the temp is way lower than on Wheezy. I think it's because newer kernel with Intel Pstate. |
| 09:35.14 | tytan | tmh1999: I don't get what you want to archive. OS X 10.9.5 and even OS X 10.10 works very good on it. I'm not a fanboy, but OS X is a UNIX like invironment just like Debian ^^' |
| 09:35.19 | Stummi | SixtyFold, my manpage says: pwd - print name of current/working directory |
| 09:36.09 | Stummi | alltought, this way the variable name PWD wouldn't make much sense. So I think its up to you to interpret this shortcut as you like ;) |
| 09:36.14 | tytan | tmh1999: I never tried Debian on it. But if you have the time I could make a bootable USB drive and play around with it for a while. |
| 09:36.53 | tytan | But for that lets change the channel ( /join #macosx ) |
| 09:37.29 | tmh1999 | tytan: It's kind of personal thing. I love Debian an Linux rather than, you know, propietary things. I think it's about Intel Pstate driver but cannot find a channel about it. |
| 09:38.10 | tmh1999 | Do you know any place I could ask about this? |
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| 09:38.43 | tytan | #MacOSX, #FreeBSD |
| 09:38.52 | petn-randall | SixtyFold: Did you check the man page yet? |
| 09:39.09 | tmh1999 | tytan: I'll go there. Thanks. |
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| 09:39.11 | petn-randall | Oh, you already got pointed to it, sorry |
| 09:39.13 | tytan | tmh1999: So if you have the time I can tell you about my experience |
| 09:39.55 | tmh1999 | Yes I have time. |
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| 09:40.25 | petn-randall | tytan: It's not a unusual request to run Debian on Apple hardware. |
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| 09:41.08 | drager | I'm having some trouble installing php5-memcached; https://pastee.org/t3qy7 Any ideas? |
| 09:41.09 | tytan | petn-randall: I know. Even I do that. But I rarely see this on new Hardware |
| 09:41.50 | petn-randall | !tell drager -about bat |
| 09:42.00 | petn-randall | drager: Can you provide the info the bot asked for? |
| 09:42.35 | drager | petn-randall: One sec |
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| 09:45.08 | drager | petn-randall: https://gist.github.com/drager/cfdb12f3d64c619302a0 |
| 09:45.20 | xmj | who is the joker who sent tmh1999 with a Linux-specific problem to #FreeBSD ? :-O |
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| 09:46.21 | jelly | !slap tytan |
| 09:46.23 | dpkg | strikes a resounding *THWAP* across tytan's face |
| 09:46.53 | tmh1999 | Okay, my bad, guys. |
| 09:46.54 | jelly | xmj: they have been notified of their transgression. |
| 09:47.23 | xmj | jelly: i was going to tell them nice one. heh |
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| 09:47.46 | qjqqyy | ,v mate-desktop |
| 09:47.47 | judd | Package: mate-desktop on i386 -- wheezy-backports: 1.8.1+dfsg1-1~bpo70+1; sid: 1.8.1+dfsg1-1; jessie: 1.8.1+dfsg1-1 |
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| 09:49.33 | drager | petn-randall: Sorry, that was incorrect information... Let me fix it |
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| 09:51.28 | drager | petn-randall: Here we go; https://gist.github.com/drager/f86e3b13cb89482d2b73 |
| 09:52.23 | qjqqyy | ,v xfce4 |
| 09:52.25 | judd | Package: xfce4 on i386 -- squeeze: 4.6.2; wheezy: 4.8.0.3; jessie: 4.10.1; sid: 4.10.1 |
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| 09:55.36 | berarma | !tell drager -about frankendebian |
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| 09:56.47 | d3lphi | out of curiosity: is it wiser to user version "samba (2:4.1.11+dfsg-1~bpo70+1)" of Debian Wheezy Backports, or better Sernet package version "4.1.12" at the point of view of a Debian user? what are the pro/cons, how should I decide? |
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| 09:57.21 | drager | berarma: What's wrong with the packages? |
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| 10:06.43 | berarma | d33tah, generally it's always recommended to use Debian packages even from backports. You gain better upgrades and support. |
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| 10:16.21 | ElroyJetson | Helo how do I install mod_define on Debian 7? |
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| 10:21.57 | Slashman | drager: there are 2 options to use memcache with php: php5-memcached and php5-memcache, from my experience, php5-memcache works best |
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| 10:23.48 | Slashman | drager: you could do this: http://apaste.info/lVB |
| 10:25.07 | drager | Slashman: I see, I'm using a script that uses the new one (php5-memcached) so I can't really use php5-memcache |
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| 10:56.59 | d3lphi | hey all. I have downloaded the source tar.gz of bind-9.10.1 and installed it to test some stuff. I'd like to uninstall it now again, but how do I do that? "make uninstall" doesn't seem to work inside my /root/downloads/bind-9.10.1 directory |
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| 11:01.01 | wols | d3lphi: where did you install it to? basically, "make install" is never a proper way to install anything. Now you learned why |
| 11:01.07 | wols | ,v bind9 |
| 11:01.08 | judd | Package: bind9 on i386 -- squeeze: 1:9.7.3.dfsg-1~squeeze11; squeeze-security: 1:9.7.3.dfsg-1~squeeze11; squeeze-security-lts: 1:9.7.3.dfsg-1~squeeze12; squeeze-backports: 1:9.8.4.dfsg.P1-6+nmu2+deb7u1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1:9.8.4.dfsg.P1-6+nmu2+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 1:9.8.4.dfsg.P1-6+nmu2+deb7u2; wheezy-backports: 1:9.9.5.dfsg-4~bpo70+1; jessie: 1:9.9.5.dfsg-4; sid: 1:9.9.5.dfsg-4.3; |
| 11:01.09 | judd | experimental: 1:9.10.0.dfsg~rc2-1 |
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| 11:01.59 | KTL | ,h |
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| 11:04.09 | d3lphi | wols: to be honest, don't remember, it's some weeks ago |
| 11:04.58 | wols | install it again and check where it writes to? pretty much all you can do |
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| 22:23.56 | tytan | ninnn: What firmware did tou install exactly? |
| 22:24.40 | ninnn | tytan, linux-firmware-nonfree |
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| 22:27.19 | tytan | ninnn: Sorry, I have no solution for you now :/ |
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| 22:41.29 | AR45 | Is anyone here running debian on a mac? |
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| 22:41.52 | mtn | !ask |
| 22:41.52 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 22:48.29 | jhutchins | AR45: Not currently, but I've built dozens of mac mini servers with linux. |
| 22:49.03 | AR45 | jhutchins: Did you have any trouble with installing grub on these mac mini's? |
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| 22:49.48 | jhutchins | AR45: No. I did use refit on some of them, but grub was able to handle the uefi by 2007. |
| 22:50.16 | jhutchins | AR45: I would read the debian wiki pages on whichever hardware you're using. |
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| 22:51.22 | tytan | AR45: I would recommend using Ubuntu Server 14.04.1 on them because they have special MAC images to avoid problems like this ^^ |
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| 22:54.55 | tytan | AR45: Sorry, they don't. The last I have seen was in Ubuntu 13.10. |
| 22:55.11 | tytan | releases.ubuntu.com/trusty |
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| 23:01.00 | jhutchins | tytan: That's 'cause you don't really need special images (except for old PPCs). |
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| 23:01.50 | rww | There are some Macs with EFI that throw a fit when given the mixed EFI/BIOS CDs that Ubuntu (and I think Debian maybe? not sure) use. That's what the Ubuntu mac images are for. |
| 23:01.55 | rww | the modern ones, anyway |
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| 23:07.26 | AR45 | Hm I wonder if that's the actually issue at hand here. |
| 23:08.14 | AR45 | I've installed Ubuntu 14.04 Desktop/Minimal/Server with minor hickups as well as Fedora 20, I'm suprised Debian 7.7 is giving me this much of a headache. |
| 23:08.31 | AR45 | ... but once there's a will there's a way.. so I'll just keep googling until something works.. |
| 23:09.13 | AR45 | The only "ache" I'm having is that I have only one laptop and it's the one that I'm trying to install to. |
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| 23:31.33 | Geronim32 | does exsist some package to test and check all the system to find something to fix about security, stability, and so on |
| 23:31.43 | Geronim32 | ? |
| 23:35.03 | somiaj | Geronim32: no individual package. There is rkhunter that checks for root kits, but usually at that time security has been compermised. There are various docs on how to harden debian. Basically if you are running stable and have security.debian.org you should be fixed against most known security holes. There is also a database that shows which ones stable is vuln too |
| 23:35.56 | somiaj | https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/status/release/stable -- list of known CVE's for the stable dist (provided you ahve full seuciryt updates) |
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| 23:38.33 | Geronim32 | somiaj, thanks |
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| 23:44.52 | tmus | hi guys - i'm trying to add a few policy rules post-up in /etc/network/interfaces, but for some reason they are never set after boot. Everything else I set using post-up on the same interface works, so are the rules flushed somewhere? |
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| 23:46.03 | tmus | this kind of thing "post-up /sbin/ip rule add from 192.168.0.10 lookup adsl" |
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| 23:46.24 | tmus | the adsl table is populated immediately before the ip rule add commands |
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| 23:50.52 | acz32 | Geronim32: somiaj: there's a package called debsecan you can look at |
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| 23:52.21 | rebauld | apt-get install debspecan |
| 23:52.30 | rebauld | oops |
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| 23:52.46 | rebauld | debs_pecan? |
| 23:54.06 | somiaj | rebauld: debsecan? |
| 23:54.52 | rebauld | thanks |
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