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| 00:01.07 | Geronim32 | I have wheezy but I want something newer, the only alternative to me, a newbie user, is Jessie? Or could I upgrade everything to Wheezy Backport? |
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| 00:02.33 | Geronim32 | acz32, I will, thanks |
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| 00:03.22 | somiaj | Geronim32: if you care about security you will want to stick with wheezy. You don't awnt to just 'upgrade to the backport version', but if there is somethig you awnt to be newer you can check wheezy-backports or make your own |
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| 00:04.04 | somiaj | Geronim32: Jessie will freeze Nov 5th I belive, and I expect 6months to a year after that it will be released. From what I read they are being a bit more agressive on fixing rc bugs (or throwing packages out) so I am expecting closer to 6months than a year. |
| 00:05.09 | Geronim32 | somiaj, got it, that's interesting |
| 00:05.19 | rebauld | somiaj: what is your opinion on using squeeze lts? |
| 00:05.31 | crush26 | I have a python script that is executing the command "import -window 3102DHD-01083 3102DHD-01083.png" when i run if from the command line, it runs flawlessly everytime, but when it runs via crontab, I get "unable to open x server. Can anyone help me figure out why and how to fix it? |
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| 00:06.34 | somiaj | rebauld: I am more a desktop/hobby user so it is not for me. If you happent to be supporting software that runs on squeeze but won't run on wheezy it is good to give longer, but I would still have some upgrade planed for the future if you are using it. |
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| 00:07.19 | rebauld | crush26: run it in an xterm - have the crontab run it there |
| 00:07.28 | rebauld | thanks somiaj |
| 00:07.30 | somiaj | crush26: you may have to give it the DISPLAY vairable, so DISPAY=":0" import foo |
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| 00:08.00 | crush26 | rebauld: I will try that |
| 00:08.16 | somiaj | rebauld: think that would cause the same problem, cron doesn't have $DISPLAY set so you have to offically tell it to. |
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| 00:08.45 | somiaj | unsure if you have to deal with the magic cookie and the user though. But many times giving it the $DISPLAY envar would work |
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| 00:10.04 | rebauld | you are correct i do env DISPLAY=:0.0 script |
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| 00:10.41 | crush26 | somiaj: I have added "-display :0.0" to the import command in my python script, which works sometimes, but it is not consistent. I still get "unable to open x server :0.0" when I put DISPLAY=0.0 in crontabe -e, cron stops working |
| 00:10.59 | magyar | hi, how can I view a list of files that a debian package provides |
| 00:11.00 | magyar | ? |
| 00:11.20 | somiaj | magyar: installed or you want to install? |
| 00:11.35 | Geronim32 | how to run debsecan? |
| 00:11.39 | somiaj | magyar: dpkg -L packagename if it is installed, you will need to get apt-file if you want to know about something in the repo |
| 00:11.51 | magyar | somiaj: installed |
| 00:11.55 | magyar | somiaj: thanks |
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| 00:16.32 | crush26 | somiaj: is this correct? "env DISPLAY=:0.0 cd /Downloads/Hourly && ./call.py" |
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| 00:18.21 | somiaj | crush26: you don'[t need the env |
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| 00:20.53 | n1x4 | WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEe |
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| 00:22.00 | crush26 | still get unable to open x server |
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| 00:56.45 | sydney | Hi all. I am having a weird issue. When i say hit the delete button, or hit the backspace buttons or the arrow keys til they go no further,my pc makes a beep from the inside. Its using my internal speaker t do it. Ive never had this issue before. How do i troubleshoot/fix this issue? |
| 00:57.02 | sydney | debian 7.7 :) |
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| 00:58.44 | DonnieDarko21 | hello guys just installed debian and i m happy so fast ...by the way i got some problem with the touchpad on mine laptop cant find to config to work like im pressing the fisrt button |
| 00:59.01 | cynicallemon | sydney: turn the internal speaker off ie mute it |
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| 01:00.08 | DonnieDarko21 | its annoying to pressing the first button instead pressing on the touchpad |
| 01:00.30 | DonnieDarko21 | any help thanks |
| 01:00.35 | fatalhalt | hello, did debian get forked yet due to recent systemd debate? |
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| 01:02.33 | rebauld_ | sydney: how hard are you pressing these buttons that you are causing the speaker wires to short? ;) |
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| 01:03.00 | IDrinkMilk | fatalhalt: No |
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| 01:03.23 | sydney | Not hard at all :P |
| 01:03.37 | sydney | How do i open alsa? |
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| 01:04.04 | IDrinkMilk | sydney: alsamixer for the console audio mixer |
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| 01:04.19 | IDrinkMilk | If that's what you are talking about :) |
| 01:04.28 | sydney | Im in alsa mixer in the terminal. |
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| 01:06.24 | DonnieDarko21 | anyone ? |
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| 01:07.10 | cafuego | bueller? |
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| 01:07.43 | rebauld_ | g bueller or r bueller? |
| 01:07.54 | cafuego | stares at you |
| 01:07.56 | cafuego | F |
| 01:08.13 | rebauld_ | frank? he's not here |
| 01:08.53 | cafuego | omg |
| 01:08.57 | cafuego | kids these days |
| 01:10.02 | DonnieDarko21 | debian is so awesome |
| 01:10.19 | unsecur3d | I agree =) |
| 01:10.34 | rebauld_ | hands DonnieDarko21 some more butter |
| 01:11.02 | DonnieDarko21 | mine last os on this laptop was xubuntu but was getting so slow |
| 01:11.30 | rebauld_ | you make it sound like xubuntu was a windows |
| 01:11.44 | DonnieDarko21 | the temp was raising when watching videos and using more ram |
| 01:11.57 | DonnieDarko21 | no xubuntu was great just |
| 01:13.42 | DonnieDarko21 | i change because no support needed to upgrade for newer version of xubuntu |
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| 01:14.03 | DonnieDarko21 | but i saw the debian 7.7 :D and that was it |
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| 01:14.39 | DonnieDarko21 | its like i was in super car ferari now i m in rocket |
| 01:14.54 | DonnieDarko21 | mine lap top is old |
| 01:15.16 | DonnieDarko21 | and if i use windows mine lap top will be useless |
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| 01:16.05 | DonnieDarko21 | thats why i love linux |
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| 01:16.49 | DonnieDarko21 | i wonder what if i got new pc with strong harware and install linux :) |
| 01:16.57 | DonnieDarko21 | nasa lol |
| 01:17.35 | fatalhalt | yeah keep wishing, choppy DE at best |
| 01:17.45 | rebauld_ | sounds like you needed to install the kernel fan module or fan user app code |
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| 01:19.22 | DonnieDarko21 | hmmm can the fan work faster ? |
| 01:19.35 | rebauld_ | mine has 3 modes |
| 01:19.47 | rebauld_ | jet plane, prop wash and off |
| 01:19.56 | DonnieDarko21 | hahaha |
| 01:20.18 | rebauld_ | find it in /proc/acpi ? |
| 01:20.24 | rebauld_ | and echo a 1 to it |
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| 01:20.43 | rebauld_ | if you have the kernel module for it installed -> lsmod |
| 01:21.14 | _piggy_ | Anyone else running jessie and kde do the update? Broke my desktop settings |
| 01:21.32 | rebauld_ | _piggy_: now is the time to go fluxbox ;) |
| 01:21.51 | _piggy_ | Could. I bounce around a lot |
| 01:22.13 | rebauld_ | are you needing desktop icons? |
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| 01:22.28 | _piggy_ | I used to run blackbox, start a terminal and run my desktop from the command line. But... |
| 01:23.02 | rebauld_ | that was a while back |
| 01:23.05 | _piggy_ | rebauld_, No. All my colors and panel settings went south |
| 01:23.25 | _piggy_ | oh sorry not for me I see |
| 01:23.29 | DonnieDarko21 | why no options at the mouse sttings ? |
| 01:23.30 | rebauld_ | fate ;) |
| 01:23.36 | _piggy_ | LOL |
| 01:24.16 | _piggy_ | Actually, its a good excuse to leave work and head home now |
| 01:24.16 | rebauld_ | _piggy_: no all that was just for you - fluxbox has some great special effect now |
| 01:24.39 | rebauld_ | the boss believes you? i will have to try that |
| 01:24.42 | _piggy_ | rebauld_, Ah. Maybe I should try it then. Been a few years |
| 01:24.59 | _piggy_ | No boss here. They left hours ago |
| 01:25.04 | DonnieDarko21 | anyone know how to adjust the mouse i need to get work the touchpad |
| 01:25.22 | rebauld_ | DonnieDarko21: probably install the synaptic code? |
| 01:25.50 | DonnieDarko21 | ok wait |
| 01:26.28 | rebauld_ | https://wiki.debian.org/SynapticsTouchpad |
| 01:27.02 | _piggy_ | rebauld_, Thanks. I might do the install in the morning. Thanks for the suggestion. Something old to play with. |
| 01:27.31 | rebauld_ | _piggy_: if you need icons check out xtdesktop |
| 01:27.42 | DonnieDarko21 | gpointing device settings ? |
| 01:27.48 | _piggy_ | writing that down |
| 01:27.49 | rebauld_ | it can go with any desktop too |
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| 01:28.01 | sydney | Ok, that fixed the internal beep side of it, but now it beeps loudly out of my screen speakers :s |
| 01:28.17 | _piggy_ | rebauld_, Will do |
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| 01:28.57 | sydney | WHat can i try now? |
| 01:29.08 | DonnieDarko21 | i got SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad |
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| 01:29.39 | rebauld_ | sydney: what did you break? or do before this started happening? |
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| 01:30.42 | rebauld_ | i'd put it back so the beep just came out of the pcskr and then remove the pcskr or blacklist the pcskr driver |
| 01:30.52 | sydney | I disabled the "beep" option in alsamixer, so it for some reason plays out of my speakers instead. |
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| 01:31.01 | sydney | Ok |
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| 01:31.38 | rebauld_ | do you have the beep for some keyboard error? i've only seen that on openbsd? |
| 01:31.56 | sydney | It worked fine in every other os. |
| 01:32.39 | sydney | You know when you backspace till you backspace no more? Thats when it beep/ beeps. Mattering on how many times i click it. |
| 01:32.43 | sydney | hit it* |
| 01:33.00 | rebauld_ | yea that is some error beeping |
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| 01:33.22 | rebauld_ | find the setting or just rip the speaker out |
| 01:33.26 | sydney | And sometimes a mouse click causes it. |
| 01:33.42 | sydney | I just disabled it, but now i need to blacklist it. |
| 01:34.10 | rebauld_ | http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_disable_the_pc_speaker_(beep!) |
| 01:34.27 | sydney | Already done ;) |
| 01:35.05 | sydney | Thanks though :) |
| 01:35.17 | sydney | Let me reboot a sec |
| 01:35.22 | rebauld_ | you must have bought one of them expensive computers - they don't just give them $.25 speakers for free anymore ;) |
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| 01:40.39 | sydney | They got blacklisted, but they still came back :s |
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| 01:42.26 | rebauld_ | hands sydney a pair of scissors |
| 01:42.48 | rebauld_ | cut the red wire first ... or is it cut the black wire first? ;) |
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| 01:42.57 | DonnieDarko21 | rebuald did installing these needs restarts |
| 01:42.58 | cafuego | cuts sydney off from the rest of the country and sets it adrift |
| 01:43.27 | DonnieDarko21 | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:43.40 | sydney | Just a sec :P |
| 01:43.50 | sydney | it built onto the board anyways :P |
| 01:43.54 | Simotek-Work- | You could just disconnect the jumper from the motherboard, that does require slightly more effort though |
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| 01:44.21 | Simotek-Work- | ahh well then take a knife and cut one of the solder tracks leading up to the speaker |
| 01:44.47 | Simotek-Work- | performing that option probably voids warranty though |
| 01:44.59 | rebauld_ | he'll end up cutting himself |
| 01:45.20 | rebauld_ | and the blood will short the speaker ;) |
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| 01:46.14 | DonnieDarko21 | rebauld i need to restart ? |
| 01:46.35 | DonnieDarko21 | coz dont work |
| 01:46.48 | rebauld_ | DonnieDarko21: did you follow the instructions? you at least will probably need to restart x |
| 01:46.55 | DonnieDarko21 | :D |
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| 01:47.07 | DonnieDarko21 | i installed everything lol |
| 01:47.36 | rebauld_ | even iceweasel? i like iceweasel |
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| 01:47.58 | DonnieDarko21 | gpointing .gsynaptics ,tpconfig xserver-xorg input |
| 01:48.06 | DonnieDarko21 | lol iceweasel so cool |
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| 01:48.18 | rebauld_ | yea restart x |
| 01:48.23 | DonnieDarko21 | ok i will restart to see what will happen :D |
| 01:48.30 | DonnieDarko21 | see ya |
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| 01:53.44 | dvs | sleezy-backports! |
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| 02:04.58 | Abbott | a user was automatically created on my machine named debian-deluged |
| 02:05.05 | Abbott | when i installed deluged that is |
| 02:05.23 | Abbott | but sometimes the user will show up as debian-+ |
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| 02:06.15 | foul_owl | How do I install mcelog in debian? |
| 02:06.23 | Abbott | when i check for users running processes |
| 02:06.35 | Devastator | ,v mcelog |
| 02:06.36 | judd | Package: mcelog on i386 -- squeeze: 1.0~pre3-3; wheezy: 1.0~pre3-72-gcbd4da4-1; sid: 104-1 |
| 02:06.49 | Devastator | foul_owl aptitude install mcelog |
| 02:06.57 | foul_owl | E: Unable to locate package mcelog |
| 02:07.11 | Devastator | foul_owl aptitude update; aptitude install mcelog |
| 02:07.22 | foul_owl | I did that as well |
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| 02:07.32 | foul_owl | Now I'm stuck :) |
| 02:07.42 | Devastator | foul_owl which release? |
| 02:07.49 | foul_owl | jessie |
| 02:08.01 | Devastator | there is no mcelog in jessie |
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| 02:08.18 | foul_owl | Aha! It was removed? |
| 02:08.20 | sydney | Yay!! After a long fight i fixed it :) |
| 02:08.23 | Devastator | yes |
| 02:08.33 | foul_owl | Is there a better tool I should be using? |
| 02:08.55 | Devastator | I don't know any alternatives, I never used mcelog |
| 02:09.03 | foul_owl | Basically just want a tool to detect hardware problems |
| 02:09.10 | foul_owl | Ok, no worries! Thanks for the help! |
| 02:09.17 | Devastator | welcome :) |
| 02:09.51 | Abbott | Devastator: do you know anything about th Debian-+ user? |
| 02:10.06 | Devastator | debian what? |
| 02:10.17 | Abbott | i have daemons running as debian-deluged and when i ps aux | grep the daemons it's running, the user running them shows up as debian-+ |
| 02:10.47 | Abbott | is that just saying the user is longer than debian- (signified by the +) or are there certain daemon users that are prefixed with debian- |
| 02:11.04 | Devastator | I've never notice that, have you googled about it? |
| 02:11.18 | Abbott | yeah but googling debian-+ doesn't work very well |
| 02:11.40 | Abbott | i've not found much so i'm assuming it's something simple or that i'm interpretting something incorrectly |
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| 02:12.00 | rgb-one | hello |
| 02:12.09 | Devastator | Abbott sorry, I can't help you with that |
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| 02:12.37 | rgb-one | does anyone know how etc/files handle name spaces? |
| 02:12.46 | rww | Abbott: yes, it's just saying the username was cut off |
| 02:13.17 | rgb-one | or as the question says "Arrangement of name spaces" |
| 02:14.36 | sydney | Where is deja- dup's config files? |
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| 02:15.06 | rebauld_ | rgb-one: do you have an example of what you mean? |
| 02:15.43 | rgb-one | well im trying to find out about the /etc files naming service |
| 02:16.05 | rebauld_ | the hosts file or the nsswitch? |
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| 02:16.52 | rgb-one | I have come across hosts however i dont know about nssswitch |
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| 02:17.46 | rebauld_ | /etc/nsswitch.conf |
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| 02:19.01 | rgb-one | I just looked at it |
| 02:19.04 | rebauld_ | man hosts and man nsswitch.conf |
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| 02:19.17 | rgb-one | ah forgot about man |
| 02:19.22 | rgb-one | thanks |
| 02:19.29 | rebauld_ | man man |
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| 02:20.33 | ageis | does anyone here use aptly? know if it could handle package signing with multiple split keys? |
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| 02:22.51 | sydney | Never mind... |
| 02:22.55 | stojic | Abbott: probably related to this bug: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=94957 , but the patch in the comments doesn't print the + so that was probably added later |
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| 02:24.01 | stojic | Hm, this means that the man page of ps is wrong since it still says "If the length of the username is greater than the length of the display column, the numeric user ID is displayed instead." |
| 02:24.15 | rebauld_ | ps -efw |
| 02:24.31 | sydney | Is there a way to clean out old config files and such? |
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| 02:25.32 | rebauld_ | which 'old' config file are you worried about? |
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| 02:26.02 | sydney | Im not worried about any, but something is eating a ton out of my /home directory. |
| 02:26.49 | rebauld_ | why would you suspect a config file? |
| 02:27.11 | rebauld_ | mor likely your xxx collection is to big |
| 02:27.52 | rebauld_ | du -s * to see what you got |
| 02:28.04 | sydney | no. i only have like 0 gb of files. |
| 02:28.07 | sydney | 20* |
| 02:28.18 | sydney | and im using 50 out of /home only. |
| 02:29.14 | sydney | 28120920? |
| 02:29.15 | rebauld_ | maybe your beep problem left a lot of core dumps? |
| 02:29.49 | sydney | Could be. After installing debian from ubutnu i have gained 10 gb in my hoe directory from previously. |
| 02:30.01 | sydney | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:30.26 | rebauld_ | didn't you do a 'clean' install? |
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| 02:30.50 | rebauld_ | and it is ubunut not ubutnu |
| 02:31.12 | sydney | :P |
| 02:31.20 | sydney | Yes. |
| 02:31.33 | sydney | But i kept my /home* partion the same. |
| 02:33.01 | sydney | Oh well, i can live on 146 gb. |
| 02:33.45 | rebauld_ | not for long |
| 02:35.18 | rebauld_ | gb or gBBBB |
| 02:35.22 | sydney | Your not like me ;) |
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| 02:36.10 | rebauld_ | you don't watch movies? |
| 02:36.28 | sydney | This is a 250 gb hd. 50 gb for system, 200 for /home. |
| 02:36.31 | sydney | No ;) |
| 02:36.47 | sydney | This computer is older so it wouldnt like it if i did anyways. ;) |
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| 02:37.22 | rebauld_ | so old it doesn't have a video card? |
| 02:37.34 | sydney | a 512 mb one. 1gb ram |
| 02:38.20 | rebauld_ | you at least gotta watch Hackers_2_-_Operation_Takedown |
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| 02:39.02 | rebauld_ | and of course mall cop ;) |
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| 02:44.04 | DonnieDarko21 | damn dont work still is is kernel prolbem ? it work with modprobe -r psmouse and modprobe psmouse proto=imps and ater reboot dont work |
| 02:44.41 | DonnieDarko21 | whats wrong with the mouse lol |
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| 02:46.06 | heurist | DonnieDarko21: echo options psmouse proto=imps > /etc/modprobe.d/psmouse.conf |
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| 02:49.30 | DonnieDarko21 | thanks |
| 02:49.33 | DonnieDarko21 | lets try |
| 02:49.40 | rebauld_ | so put the modprobe lines into /etc/rc.local |
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| 02:59.11 | cafuego | Put the psmount option you need in a file under /etc/modprobe.d/ |
| 02:59.17 | cafuego | psmouse too |
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| 03:03.09 | sydney | Ok .thunderbird is using 4gb |
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| 03:04.26 | multi_io_ | why does aptitude show that package libglib2.0-bin conflicts with itself:i386 |
| 03:04.40 | multi_io_ | ...but apt-cache show libglib2.0-bin doesn't show that? |
| 03:04.41 | multi_io_ | why? |
| 03:05.13 | heurist | dpkg: tell multi_io_ -about bat |
| 03:05.39 | heurist | multi_io_: see the message the bot sent you and provide the needed information so we can help. |
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| 03:07.05 | multi_io_ | !paste |
| 03:07.05 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 03:08.26 | DonnieDarko21 | it worked thanks |
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| 03:09.42 | multi_io_ | heurist: http://paste.debian.net/128060/ |
| 03:10.21 | DonnieDarko21 | how to make default brightness max at 100 , i installed xfce4 power manager plugins i adjust the lights now but i want defaults to be maximum |
| 03:11.13 | multi_io_ | heurist: sorry, http://paste.debian.net/128062/ |
| 03:11.32 | multi_io_ | libglib2.0-0-bin is the package I mean |
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| 03:13.28 | heurist | multi_io_: that says that libglib2.0-0-bin conflicts with versions of libglib2.0-0 less than 2.25.11-2 |
| 03:13.31 | heurist | ,v libglib2.0-0 |
| 03:13.32 | judd | Package: libglib2.0-0 on i386 -- squeeze: 2.24.2-1; wheezy: 2.33.12+really2.32.4-5; sid: 2.42.0-2; jessie: 2.42.0-2 |
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| 03:14.32 | multi_io_ | heurist: yeah, apt-cache show says that, aptitude says it conflicts with itself in addition to that |
| 03:14.42 | heurist | multi_io_: is there a problem? because wheezy has 2.33 which is higher than 2.25. so it should work. |
| 03:14.56 | multi_io_ | heurist: aptitude screenshot: http://paste.debian.net/128063/ |
| 03:16.12 | multi_io_ | heurist: I basically want to know why aptitude shows things that apt-cache does not show (and that aren't in the package metadata I assume) |
| 03:16.55 | multi_io_ | the conflict aptitude show is actually between libglib2.0-0-bin and libglib2.0-0-bin:i386, it seems |
| 03:17.12 | multi_io_ | so I'd be forced to uninstall libglib2.0-0-bin:i386, which I don't want to do |
| 03:17.27 | heurist | multi_io_: again, is this an academic question? or is something broken? all related 2.33 packages conflict with version less than 2.25 |
| 03:17.55 | heurist | multi_io_: can you not updated libglib2.0-0-bin:i386 ? |
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| 03:18.54 | multi_io_ | heurist: yeah, I can't update it seems. The conflict isn't resolved. |
| 03:19.16 | stooj | Hi. Apt is trying to configure postgresql, but I've uninstalled the package. Any way I can tell apt to forget that task? |
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| 03:19.31 | multi_io_ | my problem is I can't seem to upgrade the system without uninstalling libglib2.0-0-bin:i386 |
| 03:20.22 | multi_io_ | so it's not just an academic question, but even from an academic standpoint I'd love to know how aptitude figures out what to display under the "Conflicts:" field of a package |
| 03:20.32 | heurist | multi_io_: are you using stable (wheezy?) |
| 03:20.55 | multi_io_ | because obviously it's not identical to what's the package actually states |
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| 03:21.35 | multi_io_ | heurist: no, testing |
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| 03:22.15 | heurist | multi_io_: then that is why you are getting inconsistent results. it is not stable. questions about jessie are better addressed to #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
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| 03:23.37 | multi_io_ | my problem right now isn't package conflicts resulting from testing, my problem is with aptitude |
| 03:24.00 | heurist | stooj: aptitude keep-all will make aptitude cancel all pending actions. you can also maybe purge postgresql. |
| 03:24.09 | multi_io_ | I want to understand why it shows package information that aren't actually in the package |
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| 03:26.17 | heurist | multi_io_: the package database is a complex thing. trying to understand it when it is in an inconsistent state is beyond what I can do on irc. (: try again in a few hours and see if they have resolved the conflicts. |
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| 03:29.45 | stooj | heurist: Hmm, didn't seem to make a difference :/ http://pastebin.com/cEzsbg83 |
| 03:32.02 | multi_io_ | heurist: I've asked in debian-next, but as I said, I can deal with package conflicts, my problem is aptitude |
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| 03:33.30 | rryoumaa | my external hard drive is not showing up. it sometimes does this. is there a command to reboot usb (i.e. try to identify all devices on the hub)? |
| 03:33.49 | heurist | stooj: often, if you get your machine into an inconsistent state - maybe by deleting files, or interrupting an install, you need to install the broken package before you can remove it. aptitude -f many help |
| 03:33.54 | multi_io_ | I mean, how can an "inconsistent state" in the pkg databasae make aptitude display non-obvious things like a wrong package conflicts list? |
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| 03:35.33 | heurist | multi_io_: I do not know, we do not deal with that sort of thing when we run stable. (: I would guess that i386 has not gotten the new package, but maybe the old one is removed. as I say, try again in a while and see if it is resolved. |
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| 03:36.16 | multi_io_ | this concerns not just libglib2.0-bin, but dozens or hundrets of packages here. for all of them aptitude displays an additional conflict of the package with its own i386 version (I'm on x86_64) |
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| 03:36.43 | heurist | rryoumaa: you can not reboot the usb without unplugging and replugging the device. lsusb and lshw will show you what is plugged in. |
| 03:37.08 | multi_io_ | it looks like some problem with the multiarch/i386 config |
| 03:37.35 | heurist | multi_io_: dpkg --print-architecture probably shows that you have i386 as well as amd64 |
| 03:38.34 | rryoumaa | heurist: i know that rebooting will reboot it, but i guess you're saying there isn't some daemon that can be restarted? |
| 03:39.17 | multi_io_ | heurist: hm, no, it only shows amd64 |
| 03:39.25 | rryoumaa | lsusb does not show the device |
| 03:39.42 | multi_io_ | I did add the i386 architecture in the past though, I'm sure of that |
| 03:39.48 | heurist | rryoumaa: replugging is not the same as rebooting. but there is no way I know of to make the kernel/udev reevaluate the usb topology. |
| 03:40.12 | rryoumaa | thanks |
| 03:40.23 | multi_io_ | dpkg --print-foreign-architectures prints i386 |
| 03:40.24 | dpkg | multi_io_: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox? |
| 03:40.40 | multi_io_ | I guess that's correct |
| 03:40.44 | stooj | Cool, think I've sussed it. Thanks heurist for the help |
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| 03:41.43 | heurist | multi_io_: --print-foreign-architectures is the one I meant. there are often temporary conflicts with multiarch, they are not always updated in sync, and the mirrors take time. waiting a bit usually sorts it out. |
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| 04:14.25 | henson | I've got XTerm.VT100.background set in my .Xresources, but it only applies when I run xterm -- not x-terminal-emulator |
| 04:14.31 | henson | what am I doing wrong? |
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| 04:15.52 | heurist | henson: run update-alternatives --config x-terminal-emulator and either make sure you use xterm as your default or set the values for what you do use. |
| 04:17.18 | henson | heurist: I love you. I was about to edit x-terminal-emulator ;-) |
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| 04:33.32 | pingfloyd | I think part of the problem is that it should be XTerm*VT100.background: |
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| 04:36.07 | heurist | pingfloyd: * is a wildcard, XTerm.VT100 is correct for this since there are no XTerm.foo.VT100 resources. XTerm*VT100 would work fine though. |
| 04:36.20 | pingfloyd | heurist: it's a loose binding |
| 04:36.41 | heurist | pingfloyd: technically yes. but not needed here. |
| 04:38.39 | Froolap | what would be the debian equivilant to yum provides ? |
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| 04:40.23 | heurist | Froolap: dpkg -S or apt-file search |
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| 04:41.31 | Froolap | hmmmm saw reference to apt-get and apt-cache....... didn't see reference to apt-file..... thanks. |
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| 04:42.47 | roboman2444 | that was odd |
| 04:42.53 | roboman2444 | after an apt-get dist-upgrade, my fstab file was modified |
| 04:43.02 | roboman2444 | it tried to put in a different UUID for the main drive |
| 04:43.08 | roboman2444 | i had to boot a live usb to fix it |
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| 04:43.57 | heurist | roboman2444: that is odd, was this one wheezy? |
| 04:44.08 | roboman2444 | i think so |
| 04:44.10 | roboman2444 | testing |
| 04:44.24 | heurist | roboman2444: ahhh, well that explains it. (: |
| 04:45.01 | roboman2444 | just odd WHY it would do that |
| 04:45.13 | roboman2444 | i understand testing is a little unstable at times (but it usually is fine) |
| 04:45.30 | roboman2444 | why would it try to rewrite my fstab file with the wrong drive uuid? |
| 04:45.41 | roboman2444 | well, actually it commented out the old one |
| 04:46.25 | heurist | roboman2444: no idea. questions about jessie (testing) are better addressed to #debian-next on irc.oftc.net, maybe they know of a package that has changed to do that, or know of a bug. |
| 04:46.38 | roboman2444 | oftc.net? |
| 04:46.57 | heurist | roboman2444: ya, irc.oftc.net |
| 04:47.02 | roboman2444 | eh... |
| 04:47.37 | roboman2444 | well, if anyone here knows why that might happen, or has had something similar happen to them, please ping me |
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| 05:06.38 | darkelfjuggalo | I've asked this question several times in the ubuntu channel without an answer, I know Ubuntu is built off of Debian coding, how do i clear the the DNS cache? |
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| 05:07.49 | heurist | darkelfjuggalo: ubuntu is very different to debian. but what do you meant DNS cache? service nscd restart might work if you mean local to your machine. |
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| 05:08.42 | darkelfjuggalo | i tried that and received this response 'nscd: unrecognized service' |
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| 05:10.01 | heurist | darkelfjuggalo: yeah, ubuntu calls some things by different names, or uses different tools. you can ask in ##linux if you do not have luck in #ubuntu, #debian is the wrong place. (: |
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| 05:10.37 | darkelfjuggalo | I come to Debian channel because, most of the commands in ubuntu i learned when I was using Debian Etch |
| 05:10.42 | heurist | dpkg: tell darkelfjuggalo -about ubuntu |
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| 05:33.54 | azizLIGHT | is it dee beun or deb eeun |
| 05:34.09 | azizLIGHT | dee bee un or deb ee un |
| 05:34.21 | heurist | azizLIGHT: named after Debra and Ian |
| 05:35.02 | azizLIGHT | so how doyou say it |
| 05:35.19 | heurist | azizLIGHT: Deb ee an |
| 05:35.45 | azizLIGHT | thanks |
| 05:36.14 | heurist | azizLIGHT: though that is not how I actually say it. just how it should be said. dee bee an is more common for some reason. |
| 05:37.06 | heurist | azizLIGHT: also the .deb files are clearly not .deeb files (: |
| 05:37.36 | azizLIGHT | hehehe |
| 05:39.50 | azizLIGHT | yeah i say dee bee an myself, but say deb files |
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| 05:43.30 | cloudowind | hello everyone |
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| 05:49.50 | cloudowind | there is a lifetime writes information when i type dumpe2fs with -h |
| 05:50.04 | cloudowind | is is the total writes since the os installed? |
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| 06:36.30 | cloudowind | do i have to open an account in order to use git? |
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| 06:36.47 | cloudowind | i am tryin gto clone something with git but its asking me username and password for the https://git.hub |
| 06:36.55 | cloudowind | and anonymous doesnt works |
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| 06:40.47 | Stummi | git.hub? |
| 06:40.52 | Stummi | di you mean github.com? |
| 06:40.56 | Stummi | *do |
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| 06:41.00 | cloudowind | i think so |
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| 06:41.20 | cloudowind | git clone https://github.com/rapid7/metasploit-fraework.git |
| 06:41.20 | Stummi | well, you have the clone URL right of an github project |
| 06:41.39 | cloudowind | Cloning into 'metasploit-fraework'... |
| 06:41.43 | cloudowind | Username for 'https://github.com': |
| 06:41.47 | cloudowind | ???? |
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| 06:42.38 | Stummi | theres a char missing |
| 06:43.01 | Stummi | apparantly the git client asks for password when theres no git repository in the given URL |
| 06:43.15 | cloudowind | nice |
| 06:43.33 | Stummi | I am not sure but this could be considered a bug |
| 06:44.19 | cloudowind | git clone git://github.com/rapid7/metasploit-framework |
| 06:44.22 | cloudowind | this now worked mate |
| 06:44.24 | cloudowind | thanks alot |
| 06:45.03 | Stummi | no problem. btw you can copy and paste stuff, to avoid typing mistakes |
| 06:45.03 | cloudowind | instead of https:// using git:// fixed it i guess |
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| 07:41.56 | user1008 | hi, i have don't have enough room in / to install Wheezy's kernel while upgrading from Squeeze, what are the chances that i end up messing my computer if i were to apt-get remove the only kernel i have to make room for the new one? |
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| 07:44.14 | Stummi | user1008, do you have some older kernels installed you could remove? |
| 07:44.31 | user1008 | Stummi: nah, i just have the one i am currently booted into |
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| 07:44.48 | Stummi | okay |
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| 07:45.56 | Stummi | user1008, you can remove the old kernel and install the new one then. Only thing is your debian won't be able to boot between this two steps |
| 07:45.58 | user1008 | Stummi: while installing Debian Squeeze, i used(with some tweaks) a partitioning scheme where every suggested by the installed wherein there were different partitions for /home etc |
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| 07:46.24 | Stummi | user1008, do you have a seperate /boot? |
| 07:46.25 | user1008 | Stummi: now i've run out of space |
| 07:46.46 | Stummi | yeah, the suggested partition sheme by the DI is not optimal, IMHO |
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| 07:46.54 | user1008 | Stummi: i don't, df -h doesn't show it |
| 07:47.11 | Stummi | / and /boot are suggested too small for most usecases |
| 07:47.43 | user1008 | i have a 323MB root which has 78MB free, the new kernel needs 109MB for modules |
| 07:48.17 | Stummi | can't you just extend your root partition? |
| 07:48.32 | user1008 | all right then i am going to get apt-get remove-ing and hope there are no power outages in between |
| 07:48.46 | user1008 | Stummi: i only have shell access |
| 07:49.35 | Stummi | user1008, if something bad happens between, you still could boot a live system and fix it easily |
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| 07:50.40 | user1008 | Stummi: just as an insurance, how do i install something onto a messed up system via live cd? |
| 07:51.24 | Stummi | user1008, easiest way is to mount your system (e.g. under /mnt) and chroot there |
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| 07:56.24 | user1008 | Stummi: thanks, apt does give some very scary(but necessary) warning while removing the kernel that is currently running, i just have to reboot into the new kernel now |
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| 08:01.19 | Iridos | user1008, common practice is to keep the old kernel around until you see that the new one ran fine :) |
| 08:01.36 | user1008 | Iridos: uh oh |
| 08:02.04 | user1008 | Iridos: the old had to make way (well HDD space) for the new |
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| 08:29.25 | DrSkyLizard | locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory :( |
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| 08:29.40 | DrSkyLizard | I always have problems with locales on Debian |
| 08:29.46 | DrSkyLizard | by default something is broken |
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| 08:33.37 | tytan | DrSkyLizard: Sorry, don't know yet |
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| 08:35.04 | floralshoppe | 7.7 has systemd installed but is not using it by default right? |
| 08:35.41 | heurist | floralshoppe: not installed by default, but installable if you want it. |
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| 08:35.55 | petn-randall | DrSkyLizard: Can you show us the full error message and the command that triggered it? |
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| 08:36.22 | heurist | DrSkyLizard: does dpkg-reconfigure locales not fix it? |
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| 08:37.40 | DrSkyLizard | petn-randall: I did an update of a Vagrant VM, while installing a package it happened, on another machine I got locales problems with Perl the LC_ALL and some other var was not set, even though locale-gen was ran at one point in time |
| 08:38.05 | DrSkyLizard | the problems are fixed now |
| 08:38.32 | petn-randall | DrSkyLizard: So did 'dpkg-reconfigure locales' fix it? |
| 08:38.35 | DrSkyLizard | floralshoppe: it has a part of systemd installed by default |
| 08:39.04 | DrSkyLizard | petn-randall: no |
| 08:39.10 | DrSkyLizard | petn-randall: I had to *manually* set the locale env vars |
| 08:39.13 | petn-randall | DrSkyLizard: Which part of systemd is installed by default? |
| 08:39.17 | DrSkyLizard | perl is still yelling at me |
| 08:39.37 | petn-randall | DrSkyLizard: Show us the actual full output please → http://paste.debian.net |
| 08:39.43 | DrSkyLizard | whatever |
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| 08:39.48 | DrSkyLizard | I don't have for time for locales |
| 08:40.08 | tytan | k :'D |
| 08:40.25 | petn-randall | facepalms. |
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| 08:42.17 | AR45 | Hello I installed Debian but when it restarted nothing happened, there is no boot loader |
| 08:42.21 | petn-randall | floralshoppe: Debian wheezy (7.7) doesn't have systemd by default, but ships a very old version as technology preview. |
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| 08:43.04 | AR45 | !dpkg grub reinstall |
| 08:43.22 | floralshoppe | petn-randall, ok thanks |
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| 08:43.35 | AR45 | !dpkg fix-grub |
| 08:43.36 | eptalon | heyas |
| 08:43.40 | tytan | petn-randall: Is there a newer version available via backports? |
| 08:43.45 | AR45 | !dpkg grub |
| 08:43.46 | dpkg | GNU GRUB 2 is a portable and powerful boot loader. Ask me about <grub config> and <grub squeeze>. To reinstall, ask me about <fixmbr>. http://wiki.debian.org/Grub2 #grub on irc.freenode.net. See also <grub legacy>. |
| 08:44.17 | petn-randall | ,v systemd |
| 08:44.19 | judd | Package: systemd on i386 -- wheezy-security: 44-11+deb7u4; wheezy: 44-11+deb7u4; wheezy-backports: 204-14~bpo70+1; jessie: 215-5+b1; sid: 215-5+b1 |
| 08:44.26 | eptalon | For some time now, I have a samba-related package that waits 5 mins before shutting down. |
| 08:44.56 | AR45 | Can someone walk me through fixing my grub bootloader via the rescue mode on debian 7.7 |
| 08:45.00 | petn-randall | tytan: ^^^ see above. But it will likely be a bit flaky, because it has been hardly tested with wheezy, since that has already been released. |
| 08:45.15 | petn-randall | !tell AR45 about fixmbr |
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| 08:45.47 | tytan | AR45: I'm just as new to that as you are |
| 08:45.58 | floralshoppe | But if I make systemd default then would apt-get update work on it? |
| 08:46.00 | eptalon | So my big question: how do I set that timeout to like 1min? |
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| 08:46.29 | petn-randall | eptalon: Which samba related package? |
| 08:46.32 | heurist | floralshoppe: if you install systemd from backports then it will update via apt-get |
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| 08:47.26 | tytan | eptalon: could be in /etc/init.d/samba |
| 08:47.30 | eptalon | petn-randall: I think it is already captured in 762002. |
| 08:48.24 | eptalon | tytan: actually isn't. |
| 08:49.57 | eptalon | petn-randall: as it looks it is related to systemd and samba (not) cooperating... |
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| 08:59.12 | Interactive | How do I "remove" the 'to be REMOVED" status from some packages? |
| 08:59.58 | Stummi | set them to manually installed |
| 09:01.51 | Interactive | Stummi: Good point, did not think of that. |
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| 09:08.06 | lolwin | I have a vps running a php app, but no ssl certificate, how can i setup a limited ssh tunnel to the server; so the app is only available, no other webpages + the client can't execute commands on the server |
| 09:11.50 | heurist | lolwin: ssh -n 1234:localhost:5678 user@example.com will start a tunnel with no shell. you can then connect to localhost:1234 to get to your app. |
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| 09:14.03 | AR45 | please someone help me to fix my grub |
| 09:14.09 | AR45 | please walk me through it |
| 09:14.19 | AR45 | i am in terminal in rescue mode |
| 09:14.25 | lolwin | lolwin: thanks a lot, are you sure that other that other traffic won't be also going that way? Is it possible to remove the "user@" ? I'm basically trying to recreate the functionality of HTTPS |
| 09:14.28 | petn-randall | AR45: Did you get the message from dpkg? |
| 09:14.39 | AR45 | pen |
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| 09:14.48 | heurist | lolwin: maybe that -n should be -nNT |
| 09:14.50 | AR45 | the message from dpkg |
| 09:14.57 | AR45 | i don't understand at all |
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| 09:15.16 | AR45 | can you please walk me through someone |
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| 09:16.25 | heurist | lolwin: only traffic to that apps port will go through the tunnel, and only when you connect to localhost on the local port you chose (can be the same as the one on the vps). you can set user and the ports and such in ~/.ssh/config |
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| 09:16.49 | fraff | AR45: I can't, I would recommand you to boot from a rescue disk to fix it easily |
| 09:17.01 | lolwin | @ heurist, thanks '-N Do not execute a remote command." seems to be what i want, however i would like to have that setting at the server side, not at the client side (security; I'm trying to find a https alternative) |
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| 09:18.27 | AR45 | please help |
| 09:19.09 | petn-randall | AR45: What part of the instructions don't you understand? |
| 09:19.16 | heurist | lolwin: you /could/ probably do that server side, you would have to set those options in /etc/ssh/sshd.config and have some way of knowing that they should apply to *this* connection, maybe by using a dedicated user, that is not simple, easier would be a self-signed certificate. |
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| 09:20.51 | AR45 | please help me |
| 09:21.14 | petn-randall | AR45: We can only help you if you respond to our questions. |
| 09:22.01 | AR45 | I am on a phone and the irc is really bad |
| 09:22.16 | jelly | petn-randall: I suspect it's "I don't understand any of it, please do the work for me" |
| 09:22.23 | AR45 | it want me to mount all kinda shit idk about |
| 09:22.42 | tytan | AR45: Pretty bad conditions for your situation. Could you offer a better way for communication? |
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| 09:23.29 | AR45 | http://sprunge.us/EaRQ |
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| 09:23.46 | AR45 | I can sprunge whater you guys want |
| 09:23.47 | rommel092079 | good day. I have ask here sometime about how I can prevent navigation to my website using ip address on the browser. i googled but did not find any answer. |
| 09:24.07 | petn-randall | AR45: If you can't bother about actually working on the issue, contract a freelancer to do the work for you. |
| 09:24.12 | petn-randall | rommel092079: You can't. |
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| 09:25.06 | rommel092079 | cant we redirect it to somewhere if ip address is used to browse my site? |
| 09:25.34 | heurist | rommel092079: maybe if you set the default virtualhost to be something other then your site, requests to yout ip will go to the default. |
| 09:25.47 | tytan | AR45: Can you download and use the debian-live-7.6.0-ARCHITECTURE-rescue.iso and use it? |
| 09:25.54 | petn-randall | rommel092079: What are you exactly trying to achieve? There are several possibilities around it though: You can have a different default page, and you can make that page redirect to your actual page. |
| 09:26.47 | AR45 | tytan: i have rescue mode on this cd |
| 09:27.03 | rommel092079 | petn-randall: i just dont want somebody to use that IP address. can you please help how to do this. i cant find answer on google. |
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| 09:27.44 | rommel092079 | i cant ask in httpd because cannot send to channel. dont know why. |
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| 09:29.14 | lolwin | heurist, thank you, what would i have to add to /etc/ssh/sshd.config to simulate the "-N Do not execute a remote command." client side flag so it only works as tunnel? loosing ssh control isn't an issue. |
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| 09:30.08 | rommel092079 | ello |
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| 09:30.32 | petn-randall | rommel092079: Make sure you actual website has 'ServerName' set in the VirtualHost entry. Then create a second one using _default_ (http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/examples.html#default), that only redirects to your main URL. |
| 09:31.08 | petn-randall | rommel092079: Please be patient on IRC, people might actually be looking up things, or busy with other stuff. |
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| 09:32.34 | rommel092079 | actually i was trying to post on httpd hello. that is why my post ello was posted here. :( |
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| 09:33.04 | AR45 | petn-randall fu |
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| 09:33.49 | petn-randall | !ops AR45 |
| 09:33.51 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: petn-randall complains about: AR45 |
| 09:33.53 | heurist | lolwin: I do not know. I did say that might be complicated. the only thing that come to mind is the ForceCommand option, maybe set it to /bin/true or something? |
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| 09:35.53 | AR45 | !ops petn-randall |
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| 09:35.55 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: ar45 complains about: petn-randall |
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| 09:36.33 | lolwin | heurist: i love you, your last comment led me to this http://askubuntu.com/questions/48129/how-to-create-a-restricted-ssh-user-for-port-forwarding/50000#50000 thank you guys, you are amazing :) |
| 09:36.40 | babilen | petn-randall, AR45: Could you please not do that? |
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| 09:38.05 | rommel092079 | anybody can tell me why I cant post on #httpd while i believe my nick is registered and verified? |
| 09:38.14 | rommel092079 | also identified. |
| 09:38.52 | abcd593 | Hi, I try to do rsync -r a/ b where both dirs need root write permissions... I added this line to sudoers user ALL= NOPASSWD:-/usr/bin/rsync , but it still says: failed: Permission denied (13) when I run it as it is, without sudo... what is wrong? |
| 09:39.46 | nkuttler | rommel092079: #freenode for help with the network |
| 09:39.48 | heurist | rommel092079: you appear to be logged in. maybe ask in #freenode, or /msg an op in #httpd |
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| 09:40.37 | heurist | abcd593: sudoers file only affects command run *with* sudo |
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| 09:40.47 | rommel092079 | heurist, how can I do message an op on httpd if I cant talk there? is there a way? and how wil I know if he or she an op? |
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| 09:42.08 | abcd593 | heurist: so what should I do? |
| 09:42.11 | petn-randall | babilen: I don't think "fuck you" is an appropiate response to getting help, read above. |
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| 09:42.51 | heurist | abcd593: if you need root permissions then run the command under sudo. sudo rsync ... |
| 09:43.10 | tytan64 | I was about to guide AR45 and now he's offline xD |
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| 09:43.34 | tytan64 | there he is again ^^ |
| 09:43.43 | tytan64 | and gone again ... |
| 09:43.44 | heurist | rommel092079: best is to ask in #freenode |
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| 09:45.34 | abcd593 | heurist: I actually need to run it over ssh, so I write: rsync -rtPv --rsync-path="sudo rsync" /path/to/dir/ user@remotehost:/path/to/dir |
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| 09:52.08 | heurist | abcd593: there are ways, but they start to get more complicated then I have time for right now, look at making scripts to help. but if you need root to read or write the files you should probably just allow root to log in using private/public keys or PermitRootLogin forced-commands-only so root can write the files only root can write. maybe your strategy needs to be rethought. |
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| 09:53.25 | rommel092079a | petn-randall: is this right ->>> http://pastebin.com/QDybjbHb? |
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| 09:59.12 | talin | hello. if i want a newer version of a package on a stable server, what is the best way to do it? |
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| 10:00.25 | talin | i mean, never than what apt-cache search can find |
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| 10:03.06 | ChrisH | talin: why do you need a newer version? |
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| 10:04.08 | rommel092079a | where can I see the apache2 vhost file in debian? |
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| 10:05.19 | jelly | talin: it depends. Sometimes there's a version from debian testing built already in the backports repository. Sometimes there isn't, but it's possible to make a local one. Which package and version do you need? |
| 10:06.31 | jelly | rommel092079a: zless /usr/share/doc/apache2.2-common/README.Debian.gz, for a start |
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| 10:08.03 | jelly | rommel092079a: it will tell you about sites-available and sites-enabled directories under /etc/apache2 |
| 10:09.17 | floralshoppe | when is 8.0 coming out |
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| 10:34.20 | talin | ChrisH, jelly: one of the users wants php 5.6 |
| 10:34.32 | talin | i don't understand what "backports" and "upstream" and those things mean |
| 10:34.47 | talin | perhaps that's in some FAQ somewhere, hm |
| 10:34.54 | jelly | !backports |
| 10:34.56 | dpkg | A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
| 10:35.17 | talin | aah, thank you |
| 10:35.17 | jelly | talin: however php isn't trivial to backport |
| 10:35.55 | talin | i see. i come from freebsd, and php is hell on there. all other packages are fine |
| 10:36.13 | jelly | it's hell anywhere, probably |
| 10:36.24 | talin | yes, it sounds like it |
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| 10:36.57 | dracc | I have some issues with firefox font rendering, some signs show as if they were MissingNo. from Pokémon Red/Blue, is this a known issue and are there any good fixes for it? |
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| 10:42.10 | heurist | dracc: probably "allow pages to choose their own font..." setting in preferences->content->advanced |
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| 10:58.18 | _Hans_2 | hi all |
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| 10:58.29 | _Hans_2 | a short question: |
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| 10:58.41 | _Hans_2 | I made a recursive diff of 2 directories |
| 10:58.44 | _Hans_2 | diff -r dir1 dir2 |
| 10:58.47 | _Hans_2 | now I see all the changes |
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| 10:59.03 | _Hans_2 | what would be the right way, only to get a list of changed files **without** seeing the actual changes? |
| 10:59.34 | carp | Hi guys. Im newby. I have debian installed and am trying to install ufraw for gimp. It lets you use raw images in gimp photo editor. In doing so, I think I might have uncovered a separate problem. When I use sudo commands they generally dont work. It used to ask me to enter the root password and then it would work. Now it often asks for a password but then says things like 'you are not in the sudo group'. To get around this, I have bee |
| 11:00.16 | _Hans_2 | carp, is the user in the sudoers file? |
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| 11:00.54 | carp | logging in as root there. I started downloading ufraw but then it asks me to enter the debian installation cd. I do so, but it wont recognize it. I also dont know how to escape it from constantly asking me to enter the cd. |
| 11:01.26 | _Hans_2 | capri, change the /etc/apt/sources.list file |
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| 11:01.34 | _Hans_2 | you still have your CD's as repo in there |
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| 11:02.19 | carp | hi _hans_2 yes that is what ive found through searching. but i dont know how to get away from the 'enter your cd' prompt firstly |
| 11:02.58 | _Hans_2 | are you in the shell? |
| 11:03.02 | _Hans_2 | ctrl + c |
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| 11:03.14 | ChrisH | _Hans_2: from man diff I would give -q a try |
| 11:03.32 | carp | im in ctrl alt 1, black screen white writing |
| 11:03.34 | _Hans_2 | ChrisH, thank you |
| 11:03.47 | _Hans_2 | why ctrl alt 1 ??? |
| 11:03.50 | _Hans_2 | CTRL + C |
| 11:03.58 | carp | ah yes ctrl c worked thanks! |
| 11:04.21 | _Hans_2 | now don't use sudo |
| 11:04.26 | _Hans_2 | we are not in ubuntu here |
| 11:04.34 | _Hans_2 | use "su" like the big guys ;) |
| 11:04.39 | _Hans_2 | su |
| 11:04.42 | _Hans_2 | <enter password> |
| 11:04.49 | _Hans_2 | vim /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 11:05.03 | carp | well, basically, i dont really get the whole linux thing yet. im a windows user and this constant asking for permission is really confusing me |
| 11:05.20 | ChrisH | carp: never used vista? |
| 11:05.32 | carp | so i should be in normal desktop and then press alt f2, and then type gnome-terminal |
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| 11:05.57 | carp | chrisH no im on xp |
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| 11:06.15 | brieftschean | is there any way to find out the current values of a greylisting filter? default values are used so no chance in conf |
| 11:06.46 | ChrisH | carp: without security support, update is needed... enough offtopic |
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| 11:09.13 | _Hans_2 | ChrisH, q option worked - sorry for not reading the man page first |
| 11:09.26 | carp | so, is that the fastest way to get to the terminal? alt f2 then type gnome-terminal. |
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| 11:12.07 | carp | after vim /etc/apt/sources.list I get the message bash: vim: command not found |
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| 11:13.40 | ChrisH | carp: use vi instead or install it using apt-get install vim |
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| 11:20.56 | carp | _hans_2 You mentioned 'why am I using ctrl alt 1'. Do you mean that the normal method would be to use a console within the desktop? |
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| 11:26.35 | carp | Basically, Im following this guide. http://ufraw.sourceforge.net/Install.html It says I can type $gimp-tool --install-bin ufraw-gimp when i do i get message: bash: gimp-tool: command not found |
| 11:27.25 | carp | the guide says i could alternatively do a system wide install, and that i should type 'make install' but I dont know what to add to that. |
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| 11:29.35 | ChrisH | carp: why not using gimp-ufraw from repos? |
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| 11:29.51 | carp | 'make install' gives me the message: bash: make: command not found |
| 11:30.25 | carp | ChrisH I dont really understand what that means but I dont mind what method, just wanna get it working. |
| 11:30.47 | jelly | carp: it means the command "make" is not installed, if you want to use it, install it |
| 11:30.49 | carp | i will google that now |
| 11:31.16 | carp | and that. thanks guys |
| 11:31.18 | ChrisH | carp: run apt-get install gimp-ufraw as root. |
| 11:31.41 | jelly | ,v gimp-ufraw |
| 11:31.42 | judd | Package: gimp-ufraw on i386 -- squeeze: 0.16-3+b1; wheezy: 0.18-2; jessie: 0.19.2-3.1; sid: 0.20-1 |
| 11:32.39 | heurist | carp: you should read the manual http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/ before you resort to general googling. |
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| 11:33.00 | carp | ChrisH I do as you mentioned, and this is where it starts asking me to enter the debian cd |
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| 11:33.13 | carp | heurist thankyou |
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| 11:34.00 | _Hans_2 | carp, paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to pastebin |
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| 11:36.14 | talin | is there some simple overview that explains the difference between apt aptitude and dpkg? |
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| 11:38.19 | carp | _hans_2 I'll have a go at trying to take out the cd rom from the top of the list on my own. |
| 11:38.26 | ChrisH | talin: short apt-* and aptitudes are frontends to dpkg-* operations (very short) |
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| 11:39.02 | _Hans_2 | carp, if you don't paste your sources.list, I will stop helping |
| 11:39.08 | carp | i dont know how |
| 11:39.17 | _Hans_2 | open a shell |
| 11:39.19 | _Hans_2 | enter: |
| 11:39.25 | _Hans_2 | cat /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 11:39.32 | _Hans_2 | select the output |
| 11:39.37 | carp | i have it open with nano |
| 11:39.37 | _Hans_2 | copy it |
| 11:39.41 | _Hans_2 | then copy it?! |
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| 11:39.45 | _Hans_2 | go to www.pastebin.com |
| 11:39.47 | _Hans_2 | and paste it |
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| 11:40.17 | carp | ok, give me a sec im on 2 different machines |
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| 11:41.42 | ChrisH | . o ( ssh ? ) |
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| 11:42.56 | carp | ah i see now you can copy and paste when using the desktop shell. thats so handy compared to the ctrl alt 1 shell. i guess that answers my question of which shell do you guys use. so do you have to type alt f2 and then gnome-terminal every time you want the shell? |
| 11:43.28 | ChrisH | carp: you can put a shortcut onto your desktop |
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| 11:44.45 | carp | ill look into that. ok im just gunna log off from this machine and then enter from the other. |
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| 11:45.59 | carp | _hans_2 http://pastebin.com/bzQg3Ztm |
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| 11:46.17 | carp | hopefully that works |
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| 11:49.39 | AxonetBE | We are searching a good minitoring tool ( cpu, memory, disk space, network ) that can run on a beagleboard with 3g connection, meaning it could not take too much resources, anyone that can advise a good tool ? |
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| 11:50.49 | heurist | AxonetBE: collectd is about as light-weight as they come. |
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| 11:51.39 | AxonetBE | heurist: ok and has it also a notify function through email? |
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| 11:53.14 | _Hans_2 | carp, good, the CD has been removed |
| 11:53.21 | _Hans_2 | aptitude update |
| 11:53.25 | _Hans_2 | run this as root |
| 11:53.52 | carp | _hans_2 i havent changed anything to remove the cd though? thats strange |
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| 11:54.09 | _Hans_2 | deb cdrom:[Debian GNU/Linux 7.4.0 _Wheezy_ - Official i386 DVD Binary-1 2014020$ |
| 11:54.16 | _Hans_2 | make a # in front of this line |
| 11:54.18 | Brigo | i think the second CD line remains untouched. |
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| 11:54.21 | _Hans_2 | I overlooked the second CD line |
| 11:54.28 | _Hans_2 | Brigo, I just mentioned ;) |
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| 11:55.09 | carp | ah i see, so i need to edit the second line and put a hash tag in front |
| 11:55.21 | _Hans_2 | yes |
| 11:55.28 | _Hans_2 | # is meant to comment things (out) |
| 11:55.40 | _Hans_2 | # example comment |
| 11:55.53 | _Hans_2 | carp, you should really read about the basics first |
| 11:56.11 | _Hans_2 | believe me, you will get in much more troubles than these if you don't read the handbook |
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| 12:01.48 | carp | _hans_2 yes i need to learn lots of basics. i am scared of debian at the moment, i dont get why computers have to be so difficult to use. all i want to do is edit a photo, and gimp cant even open the image file even though its a standard type. need bernards watch to pause time so i can learn everything! hehe |
| 12:01.48 | metallic | GIMP cannot manage an image format? NONSENSE |
| 12:01.48 | carp | metallic photoshop and gimp dont open raw images apparently |
| 12:01.48 | _Hans_2 | carp, apt-get install imagick |
| 12:01.48 | metallic | what format is it? |
| 12:01.48 | carp | dng |
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| 12:01.48 | _Hans_2 | carp, that was a joke by the way |
| 12:01.48 | _Hans_2 | well, imagick is cool anyway |
| 12:01.48 | _Hans_2 | but... |
| 12:01.48 | metallic | never heard of dng :/ |
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| 12:01.48 | _Hans_2 | carp, ufraw plugin will handle the dng files |
| 12:02.08 | carp | _hans_2 awesome |
| 12:02.41 | _Hans_2 | before you get angry about gimp not handling dng files, better be grateful that there are free plugins like ufraw. Consider, that most of the beautiful things you are using on linux have been donated for free by the linux community |
| 12:02.59 | _Hans_2 | millions of free programming hours are the reason why linux is as great as it is |
| 12:03.08 | _Hans_2 | comparing gimp with photoshop is not fair |
| 12:03.15 | _Hans_2 | even though it could be compared |
| 12:03.31 | carp | nono, photoshop cant open them either! |
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| 12:04.00 | n-st_sleeper | hi, i seem to be having an issue with lvm: i've just let the debian installer create a volume group and logical volume on two physical disks (combined into a raid 1), but lvmdiskscan doesn't even scan /dev/sda and /dev/sdb, so i can't mount the logical volume in my rescue system |
| 12:04.07 | n-st_sleeper | is there anything i'm missing? |
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| 12:04.54 | carp | but yes, i mean i fully appreciate the open source community. dont get me wrong. |
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| 12:05.17 | metallic | carp, ufraw will accomplish what you want ;) |
| 12:05.53 | carp | all the stuff i make i release for free open source too |
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| 12:07.07 | _Hans_2 | carp, it does not have to be all the stuff, it's ok to also release things commercially, I only proposed to change the perspective |
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| 12:08.09 | metallic | open source does not mean free ehe |
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| 12:10.07 | carp | _hans_2 this is an interesting subject for me. what do u guys think about android for example. which essentially has taken all of linux devs hard work and they take all the financial reward. if this is off topic let me know |
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| 12:11.11 | Brigo | carp, that is an offtopic, yes, but you can join #debian-offtopic and ask there. |
| 12:11.24 | _Hans_2 | ^.^ |
| 12:11.45 | carp | righto |
| 12:12.21 | _Hans_2 | guys I need to leave |
| 12:12.24 | _Hans_2 | wish you all the best |
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| 12:12.29 | carp | thankyou for the help |
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| 12:13.35 | carp | #join debian-offtopic |
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| 12:13.56 | addaitech | ftfy |
| 12:14.01 | carp | ^^ |
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| 12:18.46 | carp | Awesome, well I think the ufraw has installed properly now. Thankyou very much for the help guys. Wait for my father to get back and test if he can edit his photos now :) |
| 12:19.43 | ChrisH | carp: it's much esaier as windows. ufraw should be able to import eg. canon raw format |
| 12:19.49 | talin | ChrisH: thanks :) |
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| 12:23.23 | carp | ChrisH brilliant. im looking forward to this. |
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| 13:07.33 | Esya | Hey guys, anyone knows a way to detect a copy paste while the user is running a shell script? |
| 13:07.35 | Esya | The only way I see is to do a read character by character and when the user presses enter check if the speed is impossible.. :| |
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| 13:10.01 | heurist | Esya: explain what you are trying to do. maybe look at xclip |
| 13:10.15 | Esya | Basically, ask a user for a specific input as a confirmation for something that's about to happen |
| 13:10.26 | Esya | But make sure that they type it, just like on some websites you cannot copypaste in certain fields |
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| 13:10.29 | Esya | To force copy-pasting and avoid mistakes |
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| 13:10.38 | Esya | *** To avoid copy-pasting |
| 13:11.36 | sydney | So, xscreensaver puts my screen to sleep, but then about a min later, it wakes back up and doesnt go back to sleep. How can i fix that? |
| 13:11.58 | heurist | Esya: not sure why you would want to do that. you could cobble something together with read and xclip, but the user can get around that by clearing the clipboard before they hit enter. |
| 13:12.43 | Esya | Someone asked for that, somehow as a joke, and I want to see if it's techincally doable or not :p |
| 13:12.49 | Esya | I'll have a look at xclip thanks for the hint |
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| 13:15.16 | ompaul | Esya: it is almost impossible to say that it can't be done, there are tools like greecemonkey and expect |
| 13:15.44 | Esya | I do not know greecemonkey |
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| 13:16.01 | Esya | Can't find it either |
| 13:16.13 | ompaul | maybe I mixed up words |
| 13:16.21 | ompaul | greasemonkey |
| 13:16.30 | ompaul | firefox extension |
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| 13:17.01 | ompaul | there are many ways to offer a programmed answer |
| 13:17.02 | Esya | What does this have to do with firefox? |
| 13:17.04 | Esya | oO |
| 13:17.10 | Esya | This is for a terminal |
| 13:17.14 | ompaul | filling in a form |
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| 13:17.29 | Esya | Right, but this is actually just a "read" command on a shell script |
| 13:17.30 | ompaul | you can present forms behind various things and attack them with various tools |
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| 13:17.56 | heurist | Esya: and the user can get around your "no clipboard" easily, same as in the browser you used as your example. |
| 13:18.00 | ompaul | then the answer is no, I'll just cut and paste my interaction into expect and not touch your script :) |
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| 13:29.40 | Martin_vW | Hi, I have a question regarding tilde versioning in Debian. We want to build a local version of squid3 for our servers that should include a certain upstream patch. The current squid3 version is "3.1.20-2.2+deb7u2". What would be an appropriate version number for our local version so that future Debian updates will update it? I understand that I can use ~ for that, but just using 3.1.20-2.2+deb7u2~ourbuild1 would mean that our version number is smaller |
| 13:29.47 | t_dot_zilla | hello, I want to build a webserver with debian... is there a good tutorial on how to do debian chroot jails ? |
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| 13:30.55 | multi_io_ | what's the best way to hot-patch a bug in a preinst script of a package from the apt-sources? |
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| 13:31.05 | multi_io_ | it refuses to install because of the bug |
| 13:31.35 | multi_io_ | the script DOESN'T get copied into /var/lib/dpkg/info/ |
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| 13:34.12 | multi_io_ | apt-get install (or even just dpkg --unpack) copies the preinst script to /var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/preinst and runs it from there, that's when the script bug occurs. After that, that tmp directory is deleted again. |
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| 13:36.46 | Martin_vW | multi_io_: you could try to extract the contents with dpkg -x, then fix the bug in the preinst script, and then repackage it with dpkg-deb -b. Seems pretty dirty, but I don't know any other way. |
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| 13:40.38 | Iridos | multi_io_, best way is to look for a bug report or write one :) |
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| 13:41.13 | multi_io_ | it's testing, there are bug all the time :) |
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| 13:41.34 | multi_io_ | Martin_vW: ok thanks, I'll do that then. thought there might be an easier way |
| 13:41.46 | Iridos | all the more important that they get fixed before the next stable relase |
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| 13:42.04 | Iridos | freeze date is quite near |
| 13:42.10 | Iridos | dpkg, jessie freeze |
| 13:42.10 | dpkg | Remember, remember, the fifth of November, gunpowder treason and plot! Debian 8.0 "Jessie" will be frozen on 2014-11-05 after which no new versions of packages will enter the release and a period of intense bug fixing begins. See http://release.debian.org/jessie/freeze_policy.html or ask me about <slushy>. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunpowder_Plot |
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| 13:44.15 | multi_io_ | I'm actually using a snapshot.debian.org from oct 7 |
| 13:44.22 | multi_io_ | the package is apache2 |
| 13:44.32 | multi_io_ | so it might already have been fixed |
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| 13:48.49 | stojic | Martin_vW: If you set the version to 3.1.20-2.2+deb7u2+ourbuild1 then the next version (3.1.20-2.2+deb7u3) will be higher. |
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| 13:51.28 | tytan | Hey, I know this is a little bit offtopic but I don't know where to ask. I live UNIX, BSD and LINUX so much that it became like a hobby to me. Now I want to learn a programming language that helps me with dealing with UNIX-like OSs and Networking. Do you have any suggestions for me? :) |
| 13:52.30 | heurist | tytan: shell scripting is probably the most universal. and quite useful. |
| 13:52.43 | ChrisH | tytan: Youi should learn a programming language to learn programming for for an OS. I would recommend to learn java |
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| 13:53.27 | tytan | heurist: I'm already quite familiar with bash scripting ^^ |
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| 13:53.58 | tytan | ChrisH: Would you say JAVA could be more usefull that python or java-script for me? |
| 13:54.08 | petn-randall | tytan: Perl or Python. Both are two useful programming languages to know even on a novice level. |
| 13:54.29 | jelly | probably more python these days than perl |
| 13:54.38 | heurist | tytan: then C would be the next one for unix/networking lowlevels. javascript is always useful due to how prevalent the web it. |
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| 13:55.02 | stojic | Martin_vW: This assumes only that the next higher Debian version will differ from 3.1.20-2.2+deb7u2 in that first part of the string (ie, they won't just add stuff after this version string but change it), which is a reasonable assumption (not sure about actual version bumping policy). |
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| 13:55.56 | tytan | Thanks for sharing your opinions, everyone ^^ |
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| 13:56.24 | ChrisH | heurist,tytan before it gets to offtopic, on comment: C (and eg. perl) offer the esay option to write unreadable code and therefore my recommendation would be some other language like java |
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| 13:56.38 | heurist | tytan: is is widely believed that you are not a programmer till you are proficient in at lease 5 languages, with at least one being functional. |
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| 13:57.46 | tytan | I'm a PLC-programmer and I want to know a standard language |
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| 13:59.56 | DonnieDarko21 | guys whats wrong with the firefox why it cant play video except youtube videos |
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| 14:00.34 | Wes- | tytan: learn C |
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| 14:01.54 | DonnieDarko21 | sorry,no compatible source and playback technologu were found for this video try using another browser or install chrome or download the lates adobe flash wtf |
| 14:01.59 | tytan | Is C compareable to Python? |
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| 14:03.34 | DonnieDarko21 | did i need to install adobe flash installer ,i thought mozilla abandon flash with the html5 |
| 14:04.53 | DonnieDarko21 | ok i ll try |
| 14:04.53 | DonnieDarko21 | :) |
| 14:04.55 | DonnieDarko21 | i m boring lol |
| 14:05.01 | stojic | DonnieDarko21: Yes, you probably need a flash player. Some web sites like youtube will offer both html5 and flash versions of videos, but most web sites still use exclusively flash. |
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| 14:06.45 | jelly | stojic: he's gone, also, there is no Firefox in Debian |
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| 14:06.48 | jelly | hides |
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| 14:07.18 | stojic | Oh, I'm ignoring joins/quits so I get what I deserve ;-). |
| 14:07.46 | tytan | jelly: Iceweasel basicly is Firefox. But you could add the Linux Mint Debian Edition sources to your sources.list and install Firefox for Debian ^^ |
| 14:08.05 | jelly | tytan: if you add LMDE sources, your installation is unsupportable in here |
| 14:08.52 | tytan | jelly: Just ecause of one application?! :O |
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| 14:09.20 | jelly | tytan: on, just because of the sources. |
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| 14:10.24 | heurist | tytan: no, not because of one application, or even because of the sources, but because of the problems they cause. |
| 14:10.27 | tytan | jelly: I don't know a better way to install Mozilla Firefox on Debian ^^; |
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| 14:10.50 | dosBoss | hi |
| 14:10.54 | heurist | tytan: it is called iceweasel. |
| 14:11.02 | jelly | tytan: not many people need actual Firefox, I guess |
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| 14:11.38 | dosBoss | isnt iceweasel always behind 2 versions? |
| 14:11.53 | tytan | heurist: That's what I told jelly a few minutes ago :D I think I miunderstood something. sorry :D |
| 14:12.07 | dosBoss | just joined, sorry |
| 14:12.09 | jelly | dosBoss: iceweasel in debian stable tracks firefox ESR releases closely |
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| 14:12.31 | jelly | at least for the last 1-2 years or so, it was a mess before that |
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| 14:12.42 | dosBoss | i just tried it a few days ago, latest iceweasel was 31, ff is at 33 |
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| 14:13.12 | tytan | dosBoss: Iceweasel is tracking the Firefox ESR releases as far as I know |
| 14:13.13 | jelly | dosBoss: indeed. Firefox ESR, however, is at 31.2.0 |
| 14:13.17 | heurist | dosBoss: http://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/faq/ |
| 14:13.28 | dosBoss | ah, I see |
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| 14:13.59 | dosBoss | it was fairly easy to install normal ff though, so iceweasel is gone now. still use icedove |
| 14:14.05 | stojic | Newer iceweasel backports are available in debian mozilla archive (http://mozilla.debian.net/). I think this is (semi)-official? |
| 14:14.19 | tytan | dosBoss: How did you install FF? |
| 14:14.47 | Martin_vW | stojic: thanks, I'll go with 3.1.20-2.2+deb7u2+ourbuild1 then. |
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| 14:15.43 | stojic | Martin_vW: You're welcome, but you get no guarantees :-). |
| 14:15.50 | DonnieDarko21 | guys which dropbox should i install from synaptic or the deb file from the web |
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| 14:16.48 | tytan | DonnieDarko21: I would recommend using the packages available over synaptics because theire tested and stable. Just use other sources if theres a problem with the standard way ^^ |
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| 14:17.50 | DonnieDarko21 | hmm okay so i need to install nautilus-dropbox |
| 14:18.12 | DonnieDarko21 | i love debian damn |
| 14:19.01 | dosBoss | @tytan i used a github repo that always points to latest mozilla. dont have the url here, sorry. you could also use mintlinux repos |
| 14:19.31 | heurist | !frankendebian |
| 14:19.31 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
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| 14:20.14 | dosBoss | so, stay with iceweasel or die? |
| 14:20.39 | heurist | (: |
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| 14:21.07 | dosBoss | fuck debian then, I thought this linux stuff would be modular |
| 14:21.16 | Brigo | dosBoss, stay with debian packages or do it at your own risk |
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| 14:21.33 | dosBoss | obviously own risk, its always like that |
| 14:21.48 | tytan | dosBoss: I don't think it's that bad at all ^^ |
| 14:21.52 | trewas | dosBoss: you can also install the upstream firefox version in your home directory etc, that's what I have always done |
| 14:23.26 | DonnieDarko21 | but if i install nautius dropbox it will intall nautilus file manager and shell for gnome by the way is it wrong ? |
| 14:24.30 | tytan | Ok, I have to. See you later ... |
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| 14:37.23 | DonnieDarko21 | damn this nautilus dropbox it takes time |
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| 14:38.27 | rgr | thats just a front end obviously. but yeah, dbox is seriously flawed when you start sharing a few tens of gigs between 2 or 3 machines. |
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| 14:38.59 | DonnieDarko21 | hmm i m installing at first time now |
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| 14:39.30 | DonnieDarko21 | 5 min left it saying configuring nautilus dropbox i hope wil finish :) |
| 14:39.56 | DonnieDarko21 | this can take some time ..... |
| 14:39.58 | DonnieDarko21 | hehehe |
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| 14:41.37 | DonnieDarko21 | please wait |
| 14:41.44 | DonnieDarko21 | how much lol |
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| 14:43.54 | DonnieDarko21 | mouse touchpad fixed check,flashplayer plugin installed check, i dropbox installing check...and mine last problem is with the brightness at default is low how to make it to be at max high i installed hfce 4 power manager plugin i adjust it but default after log in is low |
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| 14:44.19 | o689o | hid3, can someone confirm that my / directory is being ran from my USB drive (/dev/sda2 on / type ext4 (rw,sync,relatime,user_xattr,barrier=1,data=ordered) |
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| 14:44.28 | o689o | that last part looks a bit confusing but I think I did it right |
| 14:44.37 | LMNOP | mouse touchpad fixed check,flashplayer plugin installed check, i dropbox installing check...and mine last problem is with the brightness at default is low how to make it to be at max high i installed hfce 4 power manager plugin i adjust it but default after log in is low |
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| 14:45.18 | DonnieDarko21 | lol |
| 14:45.30 | DonnieDarko21 | LMNOP |
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| 14:46.27 | LMNOP | yo |
| 14:46.36 | DonnieDarko21 | yo |
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| 14:46.57 | DonnieDarko21 | lol still nautils dropbox is installing wtf |
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| 14:48.08 | DonnieDarko21 | Processing triggers for desktop-file-utils |
| 14:48.26 | DonnieDarko21 | Setting up nautilus-dropbox (1.4.0-3) |
| 14:48.38 | DonnieDarko21 | and why dont finishhh |
| 14:49.00 | DonnieDarko21 | :( |
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| 14:50.00 | DonnieDarko21 | Downloading Dropbox... 100% o share and store your files online. Want to learn more? Head to http://www.dropbox.com/ |
| 14:50.12 | DonnieDarko21 | i want to finishhh |
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| 14:50.58 | Iridos | you could use the intervening time to learn more |
| 14:51.25 | DonnieDarko21 | :D |
| 14:51.38 | DonnieDarko21 | but how long will takes lol years |
| 14:51.50 | NET||abuse | hi deb ian folks, just trying to do a usb boot of wheezy, did dd if=isofile of=/dev/sdb , stuck it in desktop machine, it boots, but when i select install, it gives out about not being able to read the cdrom |
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| 14:52.14 | NET||abuse | since this is the netinstall cd,, how do i specify boot options to get it to install? |
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| 14:52.43 | Iridos | dpkg, usb boot |
| 14:52.44 | dpkg | You can install Debian from a USB stick/thumbdrive/pen drive/key on x86 systems, as long as your system's BIOS can boot from USB. Details are in the Installation Guide, see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03 and ask me about <install debian> for hybrid CD/DVD images. Use http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ to write images from Windows. For BIOSes not capable of USB boot, ask me about <plop>. |
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| 14:53.08 | NET||abuse | Iridos, this is not the issue |
| 14:53.36 | Iridos | the install guide will say. IIRC, you had to have the iso image on the stick as well and it had to have a specific name, else it would not be found |
| 14:53.38 | jelly | NET||abuse: are there any other OSes installed already? |
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| 14:53.50 | Iridos | but last time I tried that it was pre-hybrid-images |
| 14:54.19 | DonnieDarko21 | damn dropbox |
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| 14:54.47 | NET||abuse | Iridos, but i dd'd the iso to the stick |
| 14:54.51 | NET||abuse | and it does boot |
| 14:55.00 | NET||abuse | i get to the debian installer interface. |
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| 14:55.30 | NET||abuse | jelly, there's windows on the destination machien that wer're going to blow away |
| 14:55.41 | NET||abuse | but the usb stick is clean, completely fresh stick |
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| 14:56.35 | jelly | NET||abuse: yeha, but the debian-installer has a bug in that it can't find the cdrom image of itself if there are any filesystems with file paths with a space |
| 14:56.46 | dashs | Having problem with exporting a filesystem resulting in "nobody nogroup" -- idmapd.conf on server has correct localdomain. |
| 14:57.18 | NET||abuse | jelly, so do i have to load a live cd onto the destination machine and blow away all partitions on the internal hdd? |
| 14:57.24 | jelly | NET||abuse: if you're going to nuke the windows anyway, try switching to console (alt-f3? don't remember) and delete the windows partition in advance using fdisk or cfdisk, then reboot |
| 14:57.32 | jelly | NET||abuse: that would work too |
| 14:57.56 | jelly | can't find the bug report right now |
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| 14:58.57 | NET||abuse | jelly, alt-f3 didn't work. |
| 14:59.11 | jelly | NET||abuse: ctrl-alt-f3, then? |
| 14:59.32 | jelly | does it switch to some other virtual console at all? |
| 14:59.53 | DonnieDarko21 | guys dropbox stucks at 99 percent lol |
| 15:00.28 | NET||abuse | jelly, fdisk -l no comamands found when we got execute a shell from the install menu |
| 15:00.35 | NET||abuse | couldn't get any other commands to work |
| 15:00.44 | jelly | no cfdisk either? |
| 15:00.45 | NET||abuse | ctrl-alt-f{X} |
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| 15:01.15 | jelly | parted? |
| 15:01.42 | NET||abuse | jelly, this is a small cd image |
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| 15:02.47 | jelly | NET||abuse: yeah, but even netinst ought to have some sort of a partition editor |
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| 15:03.15 | jelly | NET||abuse: ask in #debian-boot over on irc.oftc.net, that's the channel for debian-installer |
| 15:03.36 | DonnieDarko21 | guys help pls wtf its wrong with dropbox |
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| 15:04.32 | DonnieDarko21 | 15 min left and dont finish |
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| 15:05.03 | petn-randall | DonnieDarko21: Nothing we can do, call dropbox. |
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| 15:05.24 | DonnieDarko21 | so its known problem ? |
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| 15:07.36 | NET||abuse | jelly, just to let you know,, we dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sda bs=1m count=5 |
| 15:07.54 | NET||abuse | that blattd the other maindisk in the machine, we tried again, still no luck with cdrom. |
| 15:07.57 | jelly | DonnieDarko21: it's more like noone currently active in the channel knows enough about that software to have an idea why/where it hangs |
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| 15:08.18 | jelly | NET||abuse: did you reboot after nuking the partition table? |
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| 15:08.34 | NET||abuse | yep |
| 15:08.46 | NET||abuse | but we actually just found way to skip detect and mount cdrom |
| 15:08.48 | NET||abuse | and it's work. |
| 15:08.50 | DonnieDarko21 | i remember i installed dropbox from the deb file and worked good |
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| 15:08.57 | jelly | no idea, then, it's not the bug I was thinking of |
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| 15:09.46 | NET||abuse | jelly, nope, we got to package selection, then it crapped out saying it couldn't find cdrom again |
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| 15:20.02 | bin_bash | Okay so yesterday I was doing an upgrade on one of my servers, and i completely forgot about it and closed all myt erminals so i'm guessing it was still in the middle (silly me, not doing it in screen) |
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| 15:20.28 | bin_bash | so now i just remmeber and went to do a dist-upgrade and i'm getting this: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) |
| 15:20.28 | bin_bash | E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? |
| 15:21.14 | bin_bash | is it safe to remove the lock or is there an aptitude/apt command i should run to fix this |
| 15:22.59 | petn-randall | bin_bash: Check if the actual process still exists. |
| 15:23.14 | bin_bash | oh good thought |
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| 15:23.42 | petn-randall | bin_bash: "ps auxw | grep apt" and "ps auxw | grep dpkg" |
| 15:23.43 | bin_bash | hmm guess so |
| 15:23.43 | bin_bash | 12134 root 16 0 11000 3496 1120 S 0.0 1.6 0:00.60 /usr/bin/dpkg --status-fd 15 --configure libltdl7:amd64 guile-1.8-libs:amd64 libncursesw5:amd64 bzip2:amd64 libgdbm3:amd64 libclass |
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| 15:24.47 | bin_bash | yeah it is hmmmmmmmmmm |
| 15:24.48 | bin_bash | what do |
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| 15:26.12 | petn-randall | bin_bash: "killall dpkg" (don't -9 it!), then run "dpkg --configure -a", when that's done, retry "apt-get dist-upgrade". The other way would be to rebind those file descriptors back to your terminal, but I forgot how that hack works. |
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| 15:27.03 | bin_bash | thanks. |
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| 15:28.07 | Otyugh | hey. Someone knows how to change the default slim autologin session ? Personnaly I'm stuck booting on xfce4... Even if I stripped out /etc/slim.conf of any of xfce4 mention, and same for ~/.xinitrc |
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| 15:28.14 | Otyugh | Still I boot on xfce ! é_è |
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| 15:28.38 | nezZario | What's the most common way, as a user without root priv, to start a process on boot? |
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| 15:29.27 | nezZario | I mean, I actually have root priv, but I'm curious and I'd like to not tie this to the system as a whole |
| 15:29.57 | bin_bash | The following packages have been kept back: |
| 15:29.58 | bin_bash | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:29.59 | bin_bash | interesting |
| 15:30.02 | bin_bash | wonder why |
| 15:30.03 | zinx | nezZario: cron + @reboot |
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| 15:30.07 | petn-randall | nezZario: There's the "@reboot" time for cron, which you can configure as an unprivileged user. |
| 15:30.13 | bin_bash | but thans petn-randall your way worked |
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| 15:30.40 | petn-randall | bin_bash: Once the upgrade is through you have to show use the actual full output if the problem still exists. |
| 15:31.03 | nezZario | Thanks, I'll check it out |
| 15:31.05 | nezZario | Today I learned! |
| 15:31.40 | bin_bash | no im not getting the error anymore |
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| 15:53.38 | m1kehoax | Good morning (evening, afternoon, night depending on your 20) can anyone help me with installing Debian? I am fairly new to linux and have successfully ran Kubuntu but am wanting something a little more stable and tested so a friend suggested Debian. I have looked around but am not finding a download file to directly install Debian. I am sorry if this is a dumb question but I am just lost at this point. |
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| 15:55.21 | thingfish | https://www.debian.org/distrib/ |
| 15:55.38 | basd | how can i grant execution of a single script to a non admin user? the script needs su rights |
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| 15:59.12 | jelly | basd: configure sudo so that one user may run that one script. Man sudoers |
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| 15:59.53 | m1kehoax | thingfish - thanks for the link. I went to the live installer and clicked AMD64 and it took me to an index can you tell me what I need to do from there? |
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| 16:01.02 | thingfish | m1kehoax: how do you want to install? I recommend doing a netinstall; all you have to do is download a quite small image then burn it to disk. |
| 16:01.05 | m1kehoax | Sorry for the elementry questions but on Kubuntu it was very straightforward. I just have never used this type of installation |
| 16:01.15 | thingfish | it's easy, don't worry |
| 16:01.24 | m1kehoax | I don't ahve any way to burn it to a disk but I do have a USB drive |
| 16:01.31 | thingfish | you can do that too |
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| 16:01.49 | m1kehoax | Ok cool. Is there a certain file I am looking for in the index? |
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| 16:02.15 | thingfish | m1kehoax: you want 64-bit? |
| 16:02.35 | DonnieDarko21 | can some tell me how to make bluetooth work what should i need to instal |
| 16:02.37 | DonnieDarko21 | l |
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| 16:02.44 | m1kehoax | Well I am not sure. I know my computer is an AMD64 processor but I ran Kubuntu in 32bit |
| 16:02.54 | DonnieDarko21 | i cant find it bluetooth icon |
| 16:03.04 | thingfish | m1kehoax: https://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst Pick amd64 |
| 16:03.37 | m1kehoax | Ok done now what? |
| 16:03.54 | thingfish | it should start downloading |
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| 16:04.30 | jhutchins | !bluetooth |
| 16:04.30 | dpkg | Bluetooth is a wireless communications protocol (http://bluetooth.com/), about as secure as shouting. aptitude install bluez-utils; then run hidd --search as root. http://wiki.debian.org/BluetoothUser http://wiki.debian.org/Bluetooth/Alsa . For support of Qualcomm Atheros devices, ask me about <ath3k>. See also <btusb>. |
| 16:04.37 | m1kehoax | It took me to a SNT page with a list of things starting with manifest |
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| 16:05.15 | m1kehoax | I clicked on the netboot link and it took me to another index |
| 16:05.20 | Samarrah | hi, anyone an idea how to fix this bug? https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=731815 |
| 16:05.30 | thingfish | m1kehoax: click on amd64 under Small CDs |
| 16:05.37 | jhutchins | !ig |
| 16:05.37 | dpkg | The Installation Guide for Debian 7 "Wheezy" can be found at http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/installmanual . See also <errata>, <release notes>. |
| 16:05.47 | thingfish | thanks jhutchins |
| 16:05.55 | thingfish | I have to go to work |
| 16:06.03 | jhutchins | m1kehoax: That might be a good place to start. Might answer other questions before you think of them. |
| 16:06.13 | m1kehoax | Thanks! It is downloading now! |
| 16:06.16 | m1kehoax | I appreciate the help |
| 16:07.00 | thingfish | m1kehoax: you will need to burn the .iso to your USB stick; merely copying it over will not work. Unetbootin works most of the time. |
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| 16:07.18 | m1kehoax | Thanks Jhutchins I have been reading that and it has been helpful I just needed to find where to download the actual files from. |
| 16:07.30 | m1kehoax | Do I need softwazre to burn it? |
| 16:07.34 | thingfish | although it seems to work best if you use it within linux and not windows |
| 16:07.38 | thingfish | yes |
| 16:07.42 | thingfish | or use dd |
| 16:07.54 | thingfish | someone else can help you with that, I have to leave |
| 16:08.01 | thingfish | good luck! |
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| 16:12.15 | jhutchins | !unetbootin |
| 16:12.15 | dpkg | UNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer) allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux distributions. http://unetbootin.sf.net/ Not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>. |
| 16:12.48 | jhutchins | m1kehoax: /msg dpkg win32diskimager for info on free software to create the bootable drive. |
| 16:12.58 | jhutchins | m1kehoax: That's more reliable than unetbootin. |
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| 16:13.18 | jhutchins | m1kehoax: Be sure to verify the checksum of the iso too. |
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| 16:13.34 | yoLo_ | which shell is debian using |
| 16:13.38 | yoLo_ | bash right ? |
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| 16:16.55 | RoyK | yoLo_: /bin/sh, normally a symlink to /bin/dash - set it in /etc/default/useradd if you want something else |
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| 16:17.38 | yoLo_ | RoyK, i figured it bin/bash |
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| 16:18.26 | RoyK | yoLo_: chsh -s /bin/bash someuser will change it for that user - changing it in the useradd defaults will change it for new users |
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| 16:18.39 | kupo1 | anyone else get a bad break with mpv and gimp? |
| 16:18.49 | kupo1 | got gimp back working but mpv won't work. on Sid |
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| 16:20.10 | RoyK | kupo1: IIRC #debian-next on OFTC is the right channel to ask for non-stable debian |
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| 16:20.49 | kupo1 | thanks |
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| 16:25.05 | DonnieDarko21 | ok guys dropbox work now bluethooth work now i got last 1 problem and you will never see me here again :) i need to make the brightness default at max |
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| 16:25.41 | sydney | Laptop? |
| 16:26.34 | sydney | fn + up key . Or fn plus brightness key. |
| 16:27.08 | DonnieDarko21 | yes |
| 16:27.09 | DrOwl | Hi All, I am running Jessy, after running an apt-get upgrade i now have broken packages apt reports "error processing package udev (--configure)" |
| 16:27.32 | DonnieDarko21 | i know that yes to installed xfce4 power manager plugin too but the problem is |
| 16:27.41 | m1kehoax | Jhutchinson how do I verify the CheckSum of the ISO? |
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| 16:28.07 | DrOwl | i have pasted some more detail here... http://paste.debian.net/128166/ I have no idea how to fix it, any pointers to help? |
| 16:28.09 | DonnieDarko21 | after the booting up again or after every restart the lights default are low not max |
| 16:29.09 | jelly | DrOwl: for jessie, go to #debian-next over on irc.oftc.net, and provide all the information from /msg dpkg basic apt troubleshooting |
| 16:29.38 | DrOwl | jelly: thank you |
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| 16:31.48 | DonnieDarko21 | someone pls its mine last problem ? :) |
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| 16:36.36 | DonnieDarko21 | or save the brightness settings as default |
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| 16:37.19 | Samarrah | it seems to be impossible to get kvm working on jessie |
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| 16:39.44 | DonnieDarko21 | do i need to change acpi_video ? |
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| 16:42.02 | DonnieDarko21 | whats bl_power ? |
| 16:42.19 | DonnieDarko21 | brightness low power ? |
| 16:42.21 | DonnieDarko21 | lol |
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| 16:44.34 | basd | jelly: i added a line to a script in sudoers. the script executes tail -f /var/log/syslog. do i have to add this to sudoers to or is there any way to allow everything inside the script? |
| 16:45.16 | jelly | basd: put just the path to the script in there |
| 16:45.37 | jelly | basd: if the script is running as root, that's it |
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| 16:46.21 | jhutchins | Samarrah: Someone might know about the problem on #debian-next on oftc.net |
| 16:47.01 | ompaul | I have it running I use the same methods as stated on the wiki |
| 16:47.16 | ompaul | kvm ... it works :) |
| 16:48.03 | Samarrah | ompaul: on jessie? |
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| 16:48.55 | DonnieDarko21 | what i need to chat to start the brightness at boot to be max the acpi_video or the intel backlight ? |
| 16:49.02 | DonnieDarko21 | change* |
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| 16:50.52 | DonnieDarko21 | come on guys help |
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| 16:52.39 | DammitJim | is there a way to see how much space is being used on a device and how much is free? |
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| 16:53.04 | DammitJim | I have used df in the past, but this machine has lvm |
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| 16:53.12 | DammitJim | I want just straight totals per "hard drive" |
| 16:53.27 | petn-randall | DammitJim: That'll work for the partitions. For the PV, you can use 'pvs'. |
| 16:53.30 | yoLo_ | how do i remove something from $PATH ? |
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| 16:53.51 | petn-randall | yoLo_: Just overwrite with something else. |
| 16:53.56 | Baughn | So dpkg hangs. According to strace, the *only* thing it does (dpkg --configure -a) is call brk in a loop. |
| 16:54.02 | Baughn | Well, after initial startup. |
| 16:54.10 | DammitJim | thanks! |
| 16:54.27 | yoLo_ | petn-randall, i did but doesn't work now i have both something in my path |
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| 16:56.08 | Baughn | tries with -D65535 |
| 16:56.53 | DammitJim | petn-randall, that tells me how much of the physical disk has been allocated for LVM, right? |
| 16:57.05 | jelly | Baughn: do all those brk() fail? Is there enough RAM? |
| 16:57.16 | Baughn | jelly: There's plenty of ram. |
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| 16:57.36 | Baughn | The logfile is something else. Let's see if I can get it online.. |
| 16:57.51 | jelly | Baughn: debian release and dpkg version and command line? |
| 16:58.24 | Baughn | jelly: 6.0, 1.17.19, dpkg --configure -a |
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| 16:59.47 | Baughn | jelly: http://95.34.126.83:8000/log.txt <- It's basically just doing this. Looks like a loop to me. |
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| 17:05.19 | yoLo_ | this is how my path looks now !! HELP! http://dpaste.com/1DTACMK |
| 17:05.32 | yoLo_ | i don't want to re install debian again |
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| 17:05.45 | yoLo_ | i like my current debian |
| 17:06.09 | petn-randall | yoLo_: How did you set your path? |
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| 17:06.55 | yoLo_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:07.00 | yoLo_ | petn-randall, |
| 17:07.13 | ompaul | how come nobody else gets their debian into such a mess? /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games is a usual path |
| 17:07.32 | ompaul | if exported once |
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| 17:07.39 | ompaul | then you close shell and it goes away |
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| 17:08.19 | ompaul | log out and be happy |
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| 17:09.04 | petn-randall | yoLo_: You realise you have $PATH at the end? |
| 17:09.04 | yoLo_ | ompaul, log out of what ? |
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| 17:09.30 | yoLo_ | petn-randall, referring to :PATH ? |
| 17:09.32 | yoLo_ | ? |
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| 17:10.20 | yoLo_ | petn-randall, at the end of what ? |
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| 17:11.30 | TheSin | hey guys I run deiban testing, and today when I updated jetty upgraded to jetty8 which was fine but it broke solr-jetty, I found a bad symlink it was adding to /var/lib/jetty insteadll of /var/lib/jetty8, so I fixed that but I still can't get solr to start, any ideas? |
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| 17:11.51 | TheSin | s/insteadll/instead/ |
| 17:12.11 | skaag | why would pram regions be banned? |
| 17:12.17 | ompaul | yoLo_: you log out of your current session if you did not edit a file and you log in again and you'll be happier |
| 17:12.25 | skaag | I have: Total banned: 347730 pages in 27 regions |
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| 17:12.36 | skaag | is that normal or excessive? |
| 17:13.08 | ompaul | skaag: quick sanity check - what channel name is this :) |
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| 17:13.35 | dondelelcaro | skaag: I'm not sure what you're asking about, but it doesn't seem to be #debian related. |
| 17:13.42 | ompaul | Samarrah: yes |
| 17:13.50 | skaag | I see this when booting a debian system... |
| 17:13.55 | skaag | i'll try to ask around in #linux |
| 17:14.12 | ompaul | you see this while booting |
| 17:14.37 | ompaul | check /var/log/syslog for more data :) |
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| 17:17.13 | yoLo_ | petn-randall, is this the proper way of adding something to PATH ? |
| 17:17.18 | yoLo_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:18.50 | ompaul | in your .bashrc this works PATH=$PATH:$HOME/bin that adds the your home directory bin directory to the end of the path |
| 17:19.00 | ompaul | after you log out and go back in |
| 17:19.14 | petn-randall | yoLo_: You wanted to *remove* a path; if you add your old path to the new one, you're *adding* it. |
| 17:19.17 | ompaul | random acts of violence against your machine |
| 17:19.37 | yoLo_ | petn-randall, it's fixed |
| 17:20.26 | yoLo_ | petn-randall, it got fixed after i closed my terminal and reopened as ompaul suggested |
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| 17:25.32 | yoLo_ | ompaul, how would i type this PATH=/home/ned/stm/gcc-arm-none-eabi-4_8-2014q3/bin:$PATH |
| 17:25.33 | yoLo_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:27.58 | richac | Corey84: stop following me lol |
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| 17:28.23 | yoLo_ | richac, what if he does follow you ? |
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| 17:29.51 | richac | yoLo_: i dunno what do you suggest? |
| 17:30.15 | multi_io | if you run apt-get dist-upgrade multiple times in a row, will it stabilize eventually? |
| 17:30.35 | multi_io | i.e. will it install no more packages, or will it end up installing everything? |
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| 17:30.48 | richac | multi_io: i think you only have to do it once? |
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| 17:31.06 | richac | ya eventually there is nothing to uppgrade i would imagine |
| 17:31.15 | apoc_ | sup! Can someone tell me, where to define which wm X is supposed to use, if for example i have xfce and i3 installed? |
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| 17:32.34 | multi_io | richac: just curious |
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| 17:34.22 | multi_io | well, and I was wondering if the upgrade fails in the middle, and you fix the failing package manually, and then you want to continue the upgrade, how you would do that |
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| 17:35.09 | multi_io | if you rerun dist-upgrade, would it just do what was left, or would it install a whole bunch of new packages every time you run it |
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| 17:35.41 | richac | it would only upgrade onto what you already have |
| 17:35.51 | richac | if no upgrades then it won't do anything |
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| 17:36.03 | richac | as far as I know |
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| 17:36.06 | dondelelcaro | multi_io: apt-get install; will usually do that. |
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| 17:36.38 | dondelelcaro | multi_io: but if you haven't run apt-get update; upgrade/dist-upgrade should come to the same set of packages |
| 17:36.42 | richac | multi_io: make sure to do apt-get update first |
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| 17:40.25 | m1kehoax | !install |
| 17:40.27 | dpkg | There are a myriad of different ways to install Debian. See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer for a list of images and ask me about <netinst>, <various cd1> and <firmware images>. See also <install guide> and <d-i> for detailed instructions. (If you've never installed Debian before, you should read the install guide.) |
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| 17:42.23 | multi_io | I've just tried it out here, had a large dist-upgrade that ran through successfully, if I run dist-upgrade again after that, many more installs and upgrades are shown |
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| 17:43.10 | multi_io | also, if I run aptitude, it shows 15 "Broken" packages. if I run apt-get -f install, it installs and upgrades nothing though |
| 17:43.23 | multi_io | kinda strange |
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| 17:47.18 | roger_rabbit | greets |
| 17:47.36 | roger_rabbit | please excuse the random question, but has there been an update to the ca-certificates package? |
| 17:47.54 | roger_rabbit | from what I can tell from the release info on debian.org there has not been |
| 17:48.01 | roger_rabbit | but apt-get is asking me to update that package? |
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| 17:49.55 | DonnieDarko21 | hey guys how to make xbacklight -set 100 to default on every start up log in |
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| 17:50.22 | DonnieDarko21 | because defauly is 10 |
| 17:50.26 | DonnieDarko21 | default* |
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| 17:55.17 | DonnieDarko21 | pls help this is mine last problem everything else ok |
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| 18:00.03 | dondelelcaro | DonnieDarko21: which desktop environment are you using? |
| 18:00.21 | dondelelcaro | DonnieDarko21: sticking it in ~/.xinit or ~/.Xsession might be enough for some DEs. |
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| 18:02.27 | pushpop | Anyone happen to have a nice how-to on configuring an https proxy on debian. I can't seem to locate one |
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| 18:03.15 | roger_rabbit | is anyone else being prompted to update their ca-certificates today? |
| 18:03.21 | towski | is there a way to modify or add what commands show up in the gnome search bar |
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| 18:05.03 | towski | oh weird looking glass is cool |
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| 18:07.04 | DonnieDarko21 | i got xinit dondelcaro |
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| 18:08.04 | DonnieDarko21 | installed xfce4 power manager plugin too but dont save the curent brightness for the next log in |
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| 18:08.37 | crush26 | is this a correct entry for crontab -e "* * * * * cd /Downloads/Hourly && XAUTHORITY=/home/username/.Xauthority && DISPLAY=:0.0 ./call.py?" |
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| 18:09.11 | DonnieDarko21 | i installed xbacklight too and set to 100 and dont work as default too |
| 18:10.06 | DonnieDarko21 | i hate when boot up with low lights low brightness |
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| 18:10.54 | DonnieDarko21 | come on guys its champions league tonight need to go |
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| 18:11.55 | DonnieDarko21 | i forgot the fix when i used xubuntu |
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| 18:13.34 | DonnieDarko21 | i m so boring sorry guys |
| 18:13.43 | jhutchins | DonnieDarko21: There are adjustments that can be made through the control panel, or with xrandr. Have you tried those? Have you searched the web for your laptop's model + brightness settings? |
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| 18:16.11 | DonnieDarko21 | i used the functions and f9 then installed xfce4 power manager plugin but still dont save the default max brightness at next boot up i installed xbrigthness set to 100 but again next booting its set to 10 |
| 18:17.30 | DonnieDarko21 | and i m scare to change the grub file i saw some examples i dont like to install debian again if it crack 2 hours work again |
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| 18:19.22 | DonnieDarko21 | come on guys 25 min to begin the champions league i need to go |
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| 18:20.05 | DonnieDarko21 | :D |
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| 18:22.19 | basd | i'm using postgrey, is there any possiblity to inspect the email addresses in the database (Berkeley)? i tried with db_dump, but i get only some bytevalues. |
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| 18:23.36 | DonnieDarko21 | ok guys ill back ater |
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| 18:46.24 | asterismo | hi people |
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| 18:47.17 | asterismo | does anyone knows how to obtain work spent times over SSH in a server? i have to prove somebody that i've been working several hours over SSH in server mantainance... is there anything i can do? |
| 18:47.48 | petemc | 'last' shows login/logout times |
| 18:48.14 | asterismo | petemc: over a year? |
| 18:48.34 | petemc | depends how often you cycle wtmp i guess |
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| 18:53.49 | frostschutz | CinderBDT, update your initramfs? |
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| 18:56.38 | CinderBDT | frostschutz I have been reading about how to do that. The question I have is, how will I know if the new initramfs is good before I try to use it? What difference am I looking for? |
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| 19:02.14 | m1kehoax | Ok I tried to install Debian small CD for both AMD64 and KfreeBSD64 and both gave me and error "Uncaught exception was raised invalid version GNU/KfreeBSD(Linux)" can anyone help me out here? |
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| 19:06.09 | ioudas | sounds like a processor type error |
| 19:06.25 | KTL | maybe the processor was not amd64 |
| 19:06.38 | m1kehoax | ok is there another way I need to try to install? I am running it from Kubuntu |
| 19:06.46 | ioudas | 32bit versions dont hurt |
| 19:07.08 | m1kehoax | Sheesh I wanted Debian for stability! Maybe I should jsut go to Ubuntu??? |
| 19:07.39 | bin_bash | what does stability have to do with that lol |
| 19:07.49 | bin_bash | you grabbed the wrong iso version. grab the right one for your arch |
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| 19:08.04 | m1kehoax | I know it is am AMD and when I was running windows on it it was 64 so I assumed the processor was amd 64. What install should I use for the 32? |
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| 19:09.12 | m1kehoax | I am sorry about the dumb noob question but I do not see another AMD iso??? |
| 19:09.26 | CinderBDT | frostschutz I think what you're trying to tell me is that the updated lvm2 script will be put into the initramfs and the bug workaround will persist across reboots that way |
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| 19:11.35 | m1kehoax | Never mind I figured it out! Thanks |
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| 19:14.26 | CinderBDT | I will try dpkg-reconfigure on my linux kernel and see if that works. Thank you frostschutz |
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| 19:15.43 | deni | umm what happend to totem-mozilla? |
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| 19:21.53 | Artemis3 | eww |
| 19:25.48 | deni | seriously what's the way to watch videos nowadays? |
| 19:25.58 | m1kehoax | Alright I tried to install the i386 version and I am still getting the same error. I am using the startup disk creator on Kubuntu could that be part of the problem? |
| 19:26.01 | deni | I've used totem-mozilla before...not ide why it's gone |
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| 19:28.34 | metallic | m1kehoax, according to Ubuntu documentation, startup creator works also for Debian based SOs |
| 19:28.47 | metallic | what error are you getting? |
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| 19:29.17 | m1kehoax | thanks Metallic I just don't understand why I am getting the same error on all three different distros I have tried |
| 19:29.31 | metallic | what errors? |
| 19:30.12 | m1kehoax | "Uncaught exeption was raised invalid version GNU-*****" |
| 19:30.32 | metallic | that is when you try to boot from your USB device? |
| 19:30.40 | m1kehoax | Where the **** is i386, kfree, ect |
| 19:30.55 | m1kehoax | No this is when I try to burn the iso to my usb |
| 19:31.07 | metallic | ahhh good, no problem |
| 19:32.03 | metallic | that is not big deal: I have never used that app but it may be that your image file is corrupted (that happened to me recently). |
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| 19:32.16 | m1kehoax | should I be trying to burn it differently? I thought about using a cd but I don't have any? What is this 1998? |
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| 19:32.36 | metallic | hehe let's try the terminal m1kehoax |
| 19:33.06 | m1kehoax | When I installed Kubuntu I installed 12.xx then upgraded is there a place I can find the older distros for Debian? |
| 19:33.15 | metallic | do you know the letter of your device? I mean your device is sdx where x is a letter |
| 19:33.40 | m1kehoax | Ok what do I need to do from the terminal? I am pretty new to this and havent used it much other then following script I have found |
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| 19:34.00 | m1kehoax | no unfortunatyl I do not :( how would I find that out? |
| 19:34.07 | metallic | no worries it is not hard, and this will work for EVERY image you ever have |
| 19:34.25 | m1kehoax | Cool thanks for your help |
| 19:34.25 | metallic | m1kehoax, open a terminal and type "mount" pastebin the output please |
| 19:35.27 | m1kehoax | ok hang on |
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| 19:35.43 | metallic | m1kehoax, type "mount" with your USB driver unplugged and then again when it is plugged so I can figure out what letter it has, pastebin both cases ;) |
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| 19:36.43 | metallic | drive* |
| 19:37.52 | m1kehoax | Ok hang on I am going to log into the computer and post from there. I will be back |
| 19:38.04 | metallic | ok! |
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| 19:38.47 | m1kehoax_ | I am back. |
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| 19:39.55 | metallic | I still here |
| 19:40.26 | m1kehoax_ | Ok I am trying to past it here but it is too long and wont post |
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| 19:40.42 | jhutchins | !paste |
| 19:40.44 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 19:41.00 | metallic | m1kehoax PASTEBIN |
| 19:41.06 | metallic | do not paste it here XD |
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| 19:41.50 | metallic | m1kehoax_ http://paste.debian.net/ |
| 19:41.51 | m1kehoax_ | Tada you learn something new everyday! http://paste.debian.net/128188 |
| 19:41.53 | jhutchins | m1kehoax_: Can you get CPU info from the BIOS? Unless it's a xeon, it would use amd64 not x86_64. |
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| 19:42.13 | m1kehoax_ | i do not think it is xeon |
| 19:42.29 | metallic | m1kehoax_, is your USB called MIKE-USB? |
| 19:42.37 | jhutchins | m1kehoax_: You can also use the i386/i686, but you can't upgrade to 64 if you do (new install required). |
| 19:42.43 | m1kehoax_ | yes it is |
| 19:42.53 | metallic | the magician |
| 19:43.01 | m1kehoax_ | I tried the 1386 but it gave me the same error |
| 19:43.05 | jhutchins | m1kehoax_: Multiarch (running 32b code on 64) is a work in progress but getting pretty solid. |
| 19:43.27 | metallic | m1kehoax_, now we are burning your SO image on the USB |
| 19:43.35 | jhutchins | m1kehoax_: Good reason to get processor info from the BIOS. |
| 19:43.55 | metallic | m1kehoax_, move the folder containing the iso |
| 19:44.03 | metallic | or the image format it has |
| 19:44.10 | m1kehoax_ | I have tried the AMD64, kfreeamd64 and kfreei386 ll gave me the same error |
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| 19:44.46 | m1kehoax_ | ok where do I need to move it or how do I change the iso format |
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| 19:44.54 | m1kehoax_ | brb |
| 19:45.13 | metallic | m1kehoax_, just move yourself to the folder containing the SO image |
| 19:45.39 | metallic | "cd" command lets you change the directory (in the terminal) |
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| 19:45.50 | kerneloopz | ok guys, mysterious thing with my server. This is a Debian box, but it was acting very slow and I ended up restarting it. Now it's taking an incredibly long time to boot. It took over a minute to get to GRUB, and now it's crawling through the Debian boot |
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| 19:46.07 | kerneloopz | there's very high HDD usage |
| 19:46.16 | kerneloopz | I can hear the needle moving around |
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| 19:46.29 | kerneloopz | please help |
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| 19:47.44 | metallic | m1kehoax_, when you're done type "cp your-image-file-here /dev/sdb" |
| 19:47.46 | tremon | kerneloopz: do you have backups? |
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| 19:47.50 | teraflops | ^ |
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| 19:48.15 | kerneloopz | yes, but why do you ask? |
| 19:48.44 | metallic | reinstallation is coming XD |
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| 19:48.53 | kerneloopz | what, why? |
| 19:48.57 | m1kehoax_ | ok sorry i ryun a truck shop so I had to take care of work real quick |
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| 19:49.03 | tremon | kerneloopz: because your description sounds like the disk is dying |
| 19:49.03 | teraflops | uhm mat be the hdd is almost dead |
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| 19:49.37 | kerneloopz | tremon: this is basically a new machine |
| 19:49.47 | metallic | m1kehoax_, move to the folder containing the OS image using the cd command |
| 19:50.07 | metallic | then type "cp your-image-file-here /dev/sdb" |
| 19:50.34 | tremon | kerneloopz: in that case, you're probably covered by warranty. Doesn't change the early diagnosis, sadly |
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| 19:50.52 | kerneloopz | jesus christ |
| 19:51.00 | bin_bash | hm after upgrading from debian 6 to 7 do i have to reboot? |
| 19:51.04 | kerneloopz | why do you think the HDD is failing? |
| 19:51.22 | metallic | bin_bash, you will have to reboot someday |
| 19:51.25 | m1kehoax_ | Ok sorry Metallic I will be back in a few minutes gotta take care of business give me 5 min please |
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| 19:51.58 | Stanto | I want to build a debian rootfs for an x86 board; I've looked online which is giving me confusing results, or results mainly for arm boards - does anyone have clear(er) guidance ? |
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| 19:52.08 | bin_bash | metallic: why |
| 19:52.15 | tremon | kerneloopz: since it is already slow before linux is booted up, we can safely assume that your problem is hardware-related. There are very few components in a computer that cause slowdown |
| 19:52.43 | metallic | bin_bash, are you leaving your machine on PERMANENTLY forever? |
| 19:52.45 | tremon | kerneloopz: most hardware issues either cause a system failure or have no effect on performance |
| 19:53.05 | kerneloopz | tremon: it was also registering high CPU load, but low CPU usage before the start that I was not able to account for |
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| 19:53.50 | tremon | kerneloopz: high cpu load, as displayed by top and uptime? the 0.01 0.01 0.01 indicators? |
| 19:53.55 | kerneloopz | yes |
| 19:54.03 | kerneloopz | but they were like 4 5 5 |
| 19:54.09 | kerneloopz | and I have 4 CPU cores |
| 19:54.18 | kerneloopz | htop reported 10% CPU usage |
| 19:54.22 | teraflops | kerneloopz: may be that url help you http://datacent.com/hard_drive_sounds.php |
| 19:54.25 | tremon | kerneloopz: they're not strictly cpu load indicators, they are system load indicators |
| 19:54.54 | tremon | kerneloopz: if you have a very slow disk, system load will also spike because of all the I/O backlog |
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| 19:56.07 | tremon | kerneloopz: that said, "slow disk" is not always caused by the disk dying. It can also be caused by a dying controller (motherboard) or fault wiring |
| 19:56.27 | richac | or bad PSU |
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| 19:57.04 | tremon | kerneloopz: the only other thing that would cause a slow computer is an overheating cpu -- all modern processors downclock themselves to prevent damage |
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| 19:57.12 | alreece45 | or a faulty cable, connector, or backplane... |
| 19:57.21 | richac | kerneloopz: or a bad psu, run smartmontools on the hdd |
| 19:57.30 | tremon | kerneloopz: but if that were the case, your bios would have alerted you to the high temperature |
| 19:57.56 | kerneloopz | ok |
| 19:58.05 | kerneloopz | I took the machine apart, the HDD does not sound normal |
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| 19:58.22 | richac | i got an old laptop has made weird sounds for a few years now lol |
| 19:58.22 | kerneloopz | sounds like an old HDD, like the kind a grandma would have |
| 19:58.27 | kerneloopz | all clicky |
| 19:58.39 | richac | kerneloopz: sometimes the sound of the hdd is an actual setting too |
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| 19:59.00 | kerneloopz | sounds similar to "Seagate desktop drive with failing heads making thrashing, then clicking sound" in http://datacent.com/hard_drive_sounds.php |
| 19:59.03 | alreece45 | wonders if the SSD has a setting to sound like an HDD |
| 19:59.11 | kerneloopz | only the clicks are more regular |
| 19:59.15 | kerneloopz | SSDs are silent, no? |
| 19:59.19 | tremon | kerneloopz: every click causes more damage to the drive. If there is some data you really really really need to salvage from the drive, disconnect it now |
| 19:59.55 | richac | kerneloopz: i think its called the apm feature |
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| 20:00.22 | tremon | or the tler timeout... |
| 20:00.23 | kerneloopz | ok, so how should I proceed? |
| 20:00.29 | richac | i'm sorry its aam |
| 20:00.41 | kerneloopz | I could boot off a flashdrive, then provide power back to the HDD? |
| 20:00.51 | richac | kerneloopz: if you think the hdd is bad, run smartmontools tests on it |
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| 20:01.12 | kerneloopz | should I disconnect SATA power on it first before booting into the flashdrive? |
| 20:01.31 | kerneloopz | then apply SATA power when the flashdrive is fully booted? |
| 20:01.44 | tremon | kerneloopz: that's probably better |
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| 20:03.00 | tremon | if you need to salvage some data from the drive, then read up on dd_rescue. Assume that the drive gets worse every time you access it, so do your planning before getting the drive online |
| 20:03.14 | kerneloopz | thanks |
| 20:03.34 | tremon | kerneloopz: if you don't need the data, get a replacement drive and restore from backup. It's the faster option |
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| 20:03.42 | kerneloopz | the drive should be new. It's a school machine, but it's higher-teir, so it should be newer |
| 20:04.16 | richac | kerneloopz: i would test the drive |
| 20:04.25 | richac | kerneloopz: make a backup first |
| 20:04.50 | tremon | yes, testing the drive would be good. use the smartmontools package |
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| 20:05.39 | kerneloopz | I can't even do that |
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| 20:05.52 | richac | kerneloopz: why? |
| 20:05.56 | kerneloopz | I plugged it in and it wasn't even recongnized or mounted by Linux Mint (on the flashdrive) |
| 20:05.59 | alreece45 | kerneloopz: I'd probably just check the current smart values before testing the drive, testing could also contribute in a bad way if its already failing |
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| 20:06.04 | kerneloopz | HDD was still seeing lots of usage |
| 20:06.15 | kerneloopz | HDD was also vibrating more than I'd expect |
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| 20:06.39 | tremon | how do you diagnose "lots of usage"? By the disk activity led in the case? |
| 20:07.26 | tremon | if it's continuously on, and not blinking, then the disk isn't actually doing anything. It's just timing out on every read operation |
| 20:07.27 | kerneloopz | the HDD light was steadily on, the HDD was making frequent clicking noises like an old HDD would under load, and I could feel it vibrate when I touched the HDD |
| 20:07.46 | richac | kerneloopz: you mean its trying to spin up and failing? |
| 20:08.09 | richac | usually you hear it wind up, whiirrrrrlllllll and then a click at the end |
| 20:08.12 | kerneloopz | no, I can hear it spin up, it just starts clicking freqently like an old machine |
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| 20:08.40 | kerneloopz | no, it's like whiirrrrrllll click click click click click click click click click click click click click click |
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| 20:08.57 | simplar | hello guys may i ask some debian related questions? |
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| 20:09.08 | richac | kerneloopz: and its not recognized in bios? |
| 20:09.13 | rneese | hey |
| 20:09.23 | richac | kerneloopz: try a new port and cable if you can |
| 20:09.24 | rneese | what channel deals with debian pkg devel |
| 20:09.32 | kerneloopz | richac: I got to GRUB last time, it just took a long time |
| 20:09.41 | simplar | How can I make minimize and maximize buttons visible in Debian? |
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| 20:09.52 | simplar | I am now in Wheezy 7.6 |
| 20:10.16 | rww | click = hard drive is hosed |
| 20:10.22 | rww | backup data and get a new one |
| 20:10.59 | kerneloopz | christ |
| 20:11.05 | kerneloopz | well thanks for the info |
| 20:11.11 | richac | kerneloopz: back up your data and test it first, it can be anything |
| 20:11.22 | richac | also try a new cable and port |
| 20:11.36 | simplar | anybody can tell me please? |
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| 20:11.49 | kerneloopz | richac: I tried a new SATA port |
| 20:11.53 | richac | kerneloopz: look at the smart info, test it if nescessary, sometimes a long test actually fixes the issue |
| 20:11.54 | tremon | simplar: which desktop environment are you using? |
| 20:12.08 | simplar | tremon: seems that its gnome 3 |
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| 20:12.16 | kerneloopz | I'm not sure how to back up the data if I can't mount the drive |
| 20:12.16 | richac | kerneloopz: also try with a diff cable maybe, especially if smart data shows lots of udma crc errors or w/e tis called |
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| 20:12.41 | richac | kerneloopz: so its not showing in bios? |
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| 20:13.19 | tremon | simplar: try this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jl48MFcr8As . You need to install gnome-tweak-tool |
| 20:13.44 | kerneloopz | richac: it's not listed in the Linux Mint Disks GUI, which is smartmontools really |
| 20:14.15 | richac | is it in bios? |
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| 20:14.27 | tremon | kerneloopz: problem is, if the drive is so far gone that it can't even initialize itself anymore, it will not announce its presence |
| 20:14.35 | kerneloopz | or gparted |
| 20:14.53 | kerneloopz | yeah, it's still furiously clicking away, but it can't be accessed for some reason |
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| 20:15.10 | richac | I guess it died |
| 20:15.15 | kerneloopz | looks like it's completely dead |
| 20:15.19 | kerneloopz | well lesson learned |
| 20:15.30 | richac | what did you do? |
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| 20:15.35 | rww | was the lesson "make backups frequently" |
| 20:15.39 | rww | if not, learn that one too :P |
| 20:15.50 | richac | kerneloopz: did you do something to kill it? |
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| 20:16.02 | rww | (that was my takeaway from a similar situation in the past) |
| 20:16.10 | kerneloopz | I didn't do anything, it was what I didn't do that I'm learning. Make regular backups, run smartmontools periodically, and figure out how do use RAID |
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| 20:16.25 | richac | was it a old drive? |
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| 20:16.34 | kerneloopz | I had filled the server with Linux ISO and stuff, it was a server |
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| 20:16.39 | kerneloopz | no, relatively new |
| 20:16.53 | richac | what drive was it? |
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| 20:17.18 | paxcoder | Trying to "open containing directory" starts Baobab. Would anyone know off-the-bat what setting's messed up? |
| 20:17.22 | kerneloopz | Seagate 1 TB HDD at 7200 RPM |
| 20:17.43 | richac | i have a damaged samsung spinpoint F3 drive going bad on me, from a faulty psu that was failing post at one point |
| 20:17.45 | jhutchins | kerneloopz: clicking is bad. |
| 20:18.05 | kerneloopz | S/N 9VPBT5KE |
| 20:18.06 | kerneloopz | yeah |
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| 20:18.42 | kerneloopz | well it stopped clicking, but it's still not visible in gparted or Disks |
| 20:19.02 | jhutchins | kerneloopz: There are some tricks you can try for data recovery once you have a working system again. Things like putting it in a freezer for a couple of hours, then quickly mounting and copying. |
| 20:19.04 | kerneloopz | or /dev |
| 20:19.14 | kerneloopz | hmm I've heard about that |
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| 20:19.57 | kerneloopz | I didn't have a complete backup. I had backed up important files, keys, and whatnot, but it wasn't a clone |
| 20:20.04 | simplar | tremon: i dont have such options in gnome-tweak-tool :\ |
| 20:20.21 | simplar | i have installed it through apt-get install gnome-tweak-tool |
| 20:20.21 | kerneloopz | it will take me some time to restore everything and get things back where I had them :( |
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| 20:20.46 | foobar80 | I have deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main in sources.list, in order to get tshark upgraded to 1.12.1 from 1.8.2 , but always getting tshark is already the newest version. 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 167 not upgraded. at the time this version exists for wheezy in backports as in https://packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/i386/wireshark/download , so |
| 20:20.47 | foobar80 | any idea what's wrong ? |
| 20:21.12 | jhutchins | kerneloopz: If it was doing a repetitive clicking then you're looking at data recovery, not system repair. Ah well, last I looked 1TB was under $60. |
| 20:21.34 | tremon | simplar: hmm, that's unexpected. I don't use Gnome myself, so I have little else to offer. Hang around, other gnome users might be able to help you. You can also try asking in #gnome |
| 20:21.44 | jhutchins | foobar80: What command are you using? |
| 20:22.02 | kerneloopz | jhutchins: well I'm poor and didn't want to grab a $60 HDD. Guess I'll have to do that now |
| 20:22.06 | CeBe | hi, anyone knows how to tell a shell script to interpret a variable name explicitly? example: https://gist.github.com/cebe/a220c8a9b6783503c407 |
| 20:22.23 | CeBe | or how else can I concat two vars? |
| 20:22.27 | richac | kerneloopz: try plugging it in another pc just to make sure |
| 20:22.38 | CeBe | did not find any solution through google... |
| 20:22.50 | richac | kerneloopz: we are talking about an internal hdd right? |
| 20:23.19 | simplar | tremon: thank you :) |
| 20:23.24 | alreece45 | kerneloopz: didn't you say the computer was new? |
| 20:23.24 | tremon | simplar: maybe http://cloudfront.blogspot.in/2012/11/how-to-add-minimize-and-maximize.html can help |
| 20:23.33 | richac | kerneloopz: if you have a usb drive connected through an extension, it can cause clickings |
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| 20:24.02 | tremon | CeBe: ${FOO}${BAR} |
| 20:24.41 | CeBe | tremon: ahh that was it, thanks! :) I have tried {$FOO} but that did not work :) |
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| 20:25.47 | tremon | CeBe: http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide/Parameters#Parameter_Expansion |
| 20:25.58 | kerneloopz | richac: yes, a bad desktop 3.5" HDD |
| 20:26.10 | foobar80 | jhutchins, apt-get install --only-upgrade tshark |
| 20:26.18 | kerneloopz | alreece45: yes, it's pretty new. It was used when I got the machine, but it shouldn't be very old |
| 20:26.37 | kerneloopz | richac: it's internal, connected through SATA, not USB |
| 20:26.43 | richac | is it an oem machine? maybe you can contact seagate |
| 20:26.50 | kerneloopz | well it's in the freezer now |
| 20:26.56 | richac | check the warranty |
| 20:27.04 | richac | kerneloopz: ok gl lol |
| 20:27.11 | kerneloopz | yeah. It was a school machine I took and turned into a server, I'll ask around |
| 20:27.28 | richac | just go to seagates website, and put in the serial number |
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| 20:28.31 | richac | kerneloopz: http://www.seagate.com/support/warranty-and-replacements/ |
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| 20:30.12 | CeBe | and thanks for the link tremon! |
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| 20:32.13 | kerneloopz | richac: I found a date on the HDD, looks like 2011 |
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| 20:32.35 | kerneloopz | not too terribly old, but older than I expected |
| 20:32.55 | richac | might be a year too old lol, but I would check anyways, you just enter your serial on their webiste |
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| 20:34.51 | richac | kerneloopz: http://support.seagate.com/customer/en-US/warranty_validation.jsp?form=0 |
| 20:35.10 | kerneloopz | ty |
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| 20:37.42 | foobar80 | jhutchins, so .. is it a right command ? |
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| 20:42.02 | DonnieDarko21 | hey guys its me again the boring guy by the way can someone tell me how to fix the problem with the start up brightness |
| 20:42.18 | tremon | foobar80: to install from backports, you need to add -t wheezy-backports to the apt-get command |
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| 20:45.46 | foobar80 | tremon, so the upgrade command should be apt-get -t wheezy-backports install --only-upgrade tshark ? |
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| 20:46.43 | anoob | i can't shutdown my debian box. icons are greyed out in xfce and lightdm ... i'e tried to install/remove libpam-systemd without effect ... |
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| 20:47.41 | tremon | foobar80: yes. The --only-upgrade isn't necessary though, since you really do want tshark to be installed |
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| 20:48.43 | foobar80 | tremon, it's already installed , but old version, thats why want to upgrade from 1.8.2 to 1.12.1 |
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| 20:49.31 | tremon | foobar80: I know, you said so. But --only-upgrade has no effect if a package has already been installed. It just /prevents/ a package installation if it is not yet installed |
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| 20:52.43 | DonnieDarko21 | anyone pls need to make xbacklights -set 100 default |
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| 20:54.24 | tremon | anoob: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=764471#46 seems to suggest you need cgmanager as well. Can't verify it though |
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| 20:58.29 | t4nk898 | Can shellshock adversely affect Debian ? |
| 20:59.12 | tremon | t4nk898: that would be more appropriate for #debian-offtopic. This channel is for support questions |
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| 20:59.30 | t4nk898 | ok |
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| 21:00.31 | enkrypt | testing |
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| 21:02.30 | tytan | enkrypt: works |
| 21:02.35 | tytan | enkrypt: works 123 |
| 21:02.42 | enkrypt | :p |
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| 21:06.55 | alreece45 | so... what should I do when `dpkg --configure -a` seems stuck? |
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| 21:08.08 | dondelelcaro | alreece45: open up another terminal, and see what it's doing |
| 21:08.26 | alreece45 | dondelelcaro: brk() over and over... |
| 21:08.31 | dondelelcaro | alreece45: the output of ps axfu; or similar, coupled with strace might be useful. |
| 21:08.39 | dondelelcaro | alreece45: and it's not running any subcommands? |
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| 21:09.29 | alreece45 | the last thing it logs before starting that loop is "startup packages configure" |
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| 21:09.48 | dondelelcaro | alreece45: hrm. and it hasn't started running any postinst scripts or similar? |
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| 21:10.16 | alreece45 | not anymore, at least |
| 21:10.29 | dondelelcaro | alreece45: and if you interrupt it and restart it, does it just loop again? |
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| 21:10.42 | alreece45 | dondelelcaro: yep |
| 21:11.53 | paxcoder | For the log, the solution to my Q was editing usr/share/applications/org.gnome.baobab.desktop. Took me some time to find it because of the "org.gnome." prefix |
| 21:12.13 | dondelelcaro | alreece45: hrm. and it probably doesn't produce anything more useful if you run dpkg -D77777 --configure -a; ? |
| 21:12.34 | dondelelcaro | alreece45: the -D77777 bit just flips on all of the debugging; you'll probably get flooded with it |
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| 21:12.40 | paxcoder | Oh , and running update-desktop-database -q as root |
| 21:12.51 | alreece45 | dondelelcaro: Defnitely seems to e doing soething |
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| 21:13.43 | dondelelcaro | alreece45: ok |
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| 21:14.00 | alreece45 | there's a lot of information, but it looks like it keeps rechecking the dependencies of man-db |
| 21:14.15 | dondelelcaro | hrm |
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| 21:14.46 | dondelelcaro | alreece45: can you post a snippet of some of the output that you're seeing? [Or the whole log up to now if possible] |
| 21:14.56 | dondelelcaro | alreece45: please use a paste site if you can |
| 21:15.15 | dondelelcaro | (I might not be able to help, but I can at least rule some ideas out) |
| 21:15.37 | foobar80 | tremon, tried to run tshark, getting " Illegal instruction " , any idea what's that? |
| 21:16.00 | dondelelcaro | alreece45: you might also want to look at /var/lib/dpkg/status et al. and see if any of that looks odd. It's possible that something has gotten corrupted, and dpkg isn't handling the corruption well |
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| 21:16.41 | dondelelcaro | alreece45: specifically, a comparison on /var/lib/dpkg/status with a recent backup (/var/backups/dpkg.status.0 or older) might be informative |
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| 21:21.50 | alreece45 | so, that was more complicated than anticipated: https://gist.github.com/alreece45/8ef5518b0ac7efd87f80 |
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| 21:22.32 | alreece45 | dondelelcaro: This is a fairly recent install, there isn't much in /var/backups, I did manage to manually install strace (which is what status-old shows in a diff) |
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| 21:24.56 | alreece45 | if the solution is to run the install again, I can work with that... was just curious to see if there was a fix |
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| 21:27.35 | d3lphi | hey all. Using Samba 4.1.11 from Debian Wheezy-Backports and installed "libpam-winbind" also from wheezy-backports. "pam-auth-update" executed to ensure that winbind is activated, and yes it is. "rgrep -i winbind /etc/pam.d" shows that, too. "winbind" is running, "wbinfo -p" is ok, and "wbinfo -u" and "wbinfo -g" outputs expected results |
| 21:28.19 | d3lphi | /etc/nsswitch.conf is configured for passwd and group with "winbind" and "getent passwd" and "getent group" works fine, too. So my host can list and work with the winbind users. But I cannot login through ssh, with such a user, I get error: |
| 21:28.39 | dondelelcaro | alreece45: hrm. can you try reinstalling man-db and see what happens? |
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| 21:28.55 | dondelelcaro | alreece45: my best guess is something is wrong with man-db and its triggers, but I'm not sure at all |
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| 21:29.54 | alreece45 | dondelelcaro: Worked when I removed mandb... apt-get -f install finishes now... but maybe no man-db yet |
| 21:29.56 | dondelelcaro | alreece45: someone else might have a better idea... and you might also pinpoint the problem if you see what apt-get -f install; wants to do. |
| 21:30.08 | dondelelcaro | alreece45: is this wheezy? or unstable? or jessie? |
| 21:30.09 | dondelelcaro | ah, ok. |
| 21:30.27 | tremon | foobar80: that should be reported as a bug. It means that either the binary build did something wrong, or it is not detecting the features of your processor properly |
| 21:30.30 | d3lphi | pam_winbind(sshd:auth): internal module error (retval = PAM_SYSTEM_ERR(4) |
| 21:30.39 | alreece45 | the -D7777 thing was definitely useful... |
| 21:31.05 | tremon | foobar80: what is your processor (grep model /proc/cpuinfo)? |
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| 21:32.11 | foobar80 | tremon, ARMv6-compatible processor rev 7 (v6l) |
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| 21:33.03 | foobar80 | tremon, but it's the same apt source mirror for Armhf arch. |
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| 21:33.12 | foobar80 | tremon, deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main |
| 21:33.47 | d3lphi | http://paste.debian.net/128205/ |
| 21:33.49 | tremon | foobar80: ah, I was expecting an intel chip. Don't know exactly what features ARM processors can or cannot have. Are you sure your processor is hard-float capable? |
| 21:33.51 | alreece45 | dondelelcaro: Thanks for that little push, it looks like things are working again |
| 21:34.26 | foobar80 | tremon, don't know what's hard-float |
| 21:35.38 | tremon | foobar80: armhf is the debian build for processors that have floating point arithmetic support. The alternative is armel, which is soft-float (which means floating point arithmetic is done in software only) |
| 21:35.46 | d3lphi | anyone? |
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| 21:36.25 | tremon | foobar80: is this an Rpi? |
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| 21:36.53 | nagerst | Is systemd mandatory in later debian releases? |
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| 21:37.28 | tremon | nagerst: nope |
| 21:37.28 | foobar80 | tremon, yea |
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| 21:38.18 | tremon | foobar80: I don't think the raspberry pi has hardware floating point support. The base system does very little with FP, so you might not have noticed yet |
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| 21:39.21 | tremon | foobar80: I would suggest you try to download the armel version of tshark, and try if that will run. I'm not sure if mixing armel and armhf is a good idea though, maybe ask on an arm-specific channel |
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| 21:39.36 | foobar80 | tremon, but i had the old version of tshark working fine on it |
| 21:40.32 | tremon | well, the newer version may either have a bug or have more advanced features. Or I could be completely wrong about the rpi :) |
| 21:41.12 | tremon | foobar80: https://wiki.debian.org/RaspberryPi |
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| 21:42.29 | tremon | foobar80: apparently, Debian's armhf is targeted towards ARMv7, the rpi is a v6. So it may not even have to do with any floating-point code |
| 21:43.22 | foobar80 | tremon, so ? |
| 21:44.19 | zumbi | tremon: maybe foobar80 is running raspbian, which supports hardware floating point for ARMv6 |
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| 21:46.05 | dindinx | in debian unstable, why is systemd mandatory to use hplip? Can't I keep a sane init system and still be able to print? |
| 21:46.41 | tremon | foobar80: I have no real solution for you. Apparently, Debian armhf is not completely compatible with the rpi so I can't help you with that. I'd suggest asking the maintainers or an arm-specific channel |
| 21:46.51 | f00bar80 | zumbi, yea i do :) |
| 21:47.29 | tremon | f00bar80: then you should probably install the raspbian version of tshark, not from wheezy-backports |
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| 21:48.30 | f00bar80 | tremon, :( so raspian version is too old .. or if a new version is available in wheezy backports it should be available somewhere for raspbian ? |
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| 21:51.00 | tremon | f00bar80: it might, but I don't know. You can ask in #raspbian, or maybe use the armel version of wheezy-backports (still don't know if mixing armel and armhf is a good idea) |
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| 21:53.13 | micw | hi |
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| 21:54.01 | micw | i tra to automate some setup with ansible (e.g. samba). how can i avoid that the service is started after installation so that i can place my config file first? |
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| 21:56.36 | f00bar80 | tremon, can i select the arch. while installing with apt-get ? |
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| 21:57.27 | tremon | f00bar80: you would have to dpkg --add-architecture armel, then apt-get install tshark:armel. |
| 21:57.35 | tremon | (apt-get update in between) |
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| 21:59.43 | f00bar80 | tremon, dpkg --add-architecture armel, apt-get update, then apt-get install tshark:armel ? somebody mentione that debian repo are not binary compatible with raspbian. |
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| 22:02.54 | tremon | f00bar80: that would explain why you got the illegal instruction error earlier :) -- Again, I don't know what will happen. It shouldn't break your existing install in any way though |
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| 22:04.15 | f00bar80 | tremon, what about compiling it ? in this case can i remove the installed version usingn dpkg --desinstall ? |
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| 22:05.15 | tremon | !tell f00bar80 -about ssb |
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| 22:06.17 | tremon | f00bar80: either dpkg -r or apt-get remove will work. Take a look at the PM from the bot, these are the general instructions on how to rebuild a debian package |
| 22:07.06 | tremon | f00bar80: obviously you need to tweak it somewhat, since you're not getting the source from unstable, you're getting it from wheezy-backports |
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| 22:10.47 | f00bar80 | tremon, why not to use armhf? |
| 22:11.02 | MadHatter42 | i've got the following network situation |
| 22:11.03 | MadHatter42 | http://pastebin.com/rgJrqyYC |
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| 22:11.12 | MadHatter42 | on my debians |
| 22:11.27 | f00bar80 | tremon, dpkg --add-architecture armhf instead of armel |
| 22:11.38 | tremon | f00bar80: what do you mean? You've already tried that, it gave you an illegal instruction error |
| 22:11.46 | MadHatter42 | is it possible to get the network 192.168.100 net at hostA from hostB |
| 22:11.51 | MadHatter42 | ? |
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| 22:15.00 | f00bar80 | termon, http://pastebin.com/Pnf4ggv0 |
| 22:15.24 | tremon | MadHatter42: enable ip forwarding on tower2 |
| 22:15.39 | MadHatter42 | done |
| 22:15.52 | MadHatter42 | from within the machine i can get to those networks |
| 22:15.53 | tremon | f00bar80: you don't need to add-architecture armhf, it's the native arch |
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| 22:17.02 | MadHatter42 | root@tower2:~# sysctl net.ipv4.ip_forward |
| 22:17.03 | MadHatter42 | net.ipv4.ip_forward = 1 |
| 22:17.03 | MadHatter42 | root@tower2:~# cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward |
| 22:17.03 | MadHatter42 | 1 |
| 22:17.03 | MadHatter42 | root@tower2:~# |
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| 22:17.47 | MadHatter42 | sorry about that |
| 22:18.28 | f00bar80 | tremon, that's when i tried -add-architecture armel |
| 22:19.02 | jasonwc | I will be migrating my server from WHS 2011 to Debian Wheezy to create a 48 TB ZFS RAID-Z2 pool. I've done some research but can't find a solid answer on the best torrent client to handle many torrents. I'm currently seeding about 700 torrents/5 TB of data. uTorrent is quite good about seeding many torrents but I've read about issues in Deluge. I need a torrent client that can handle auto-RSS downloading, can efficiently mak |
| 22:19.03 | jasonwc | e use of a fast (150/150) connection, and that handles many (1,000+) torrents decently. The options I've seen are Deluge, Transmission, and rTorrent. Any recommendations? |
| 22:19.04 | MadHatter42 | tremon, i've enabled forwarding and flushed iptables |
| 22:19.16 | tremon | f00bar80: I saw. So apparently that approach won't work, which leaves the manual compile |
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| 22:20.24 | f00bar80 | tremon, so now i have to add armhf again and apt-get update? |
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| 22:20.59 | tremon | MadHatter42: your network configuration appears correct, but the information is incomplete. For tower2 to act as a gateway, it needs a valid ip address on link virbr2 and computers on that net need to have tower2 as the default gateway |
| 22:21.20 | tremon | f00bar80: you don't need to add-architecture armhf, it's the native arch |
| 22:21.54 | f00bar80 | tremon, so only apt-get update or always it's not required ? |
| 22:22.12 | luciousjr | I'm having trouble getting my wacom intuos2 working with jessie in a gnome 3.14 environment. Anyone else having issues? |
| 22:22.23 | MadHatter42 | tremon, from the inside of the machine those are reachable , i added a route for tower1 to reach the 192 network via tower2 but its not working |
| 22:22.26 | tremon | f00bar80: it's not requires. You do need to apt-get update after you have added the deb-src line for backports though |
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| 22:23.30 | tremon | MadHatter42: run a tcpdump on tower2, see if packets are arriving in both directions |
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| 22:24.11 | MadHatter42 | done that and it appears not |
| 22:24.19 | MadHatter42 | although when i do a traceroute from t1 to t2 |
| 22:24.26 | MadHatter42 | it doesnt appear to pass through any gw |
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| 22:25.50 | tremon | MadHatter42: but you can ping tower2 from tower1 fine? |
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| 22:25.58 | MadHatter42 | yes |
| 22:26.00 | MadHatter42 | both ways |
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| 22:27.04 | d3lphi | http://paste.debian.net/128205/ |
| 22:28.19 | tremon | MadHatter42: if you can ping them, then you should be able to see those pings on tcpdump. If you can see those pings but not a ping from tower1 to 192.168.100.0/24, the problem is in tower1 or the interconnect between them |
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| 22:29.44 | MadHatter42 | well i thought of that but hoped that since they're directly connected this issue wouldnt be there |
| 22:30.23 | MadHatter42 | with port forwarding and nat works fine |
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| 22:31.25 | tremon | MadHatter42: that would suggest an issue with the routing table on tower1 then. Yet it looks fine |
| 22:31.41 | MadHatter42 | it might be an additional route between tower1 and 2 |
| 22:31.45 | MadHatter42 | that i'm not seeing |
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| 22:32.45 | tremon | MadHatter42: try setting 10.0.35.178 as the default gateway perhaps? |
| 22:33.05 | Roenie | *pictures 2 IT engineers setting up networking between LotR's the two towers* |
| 22:33.49 | MadHatter42 | i thought it was done by this line 192.168.100.0 10.0.35.178 255.255.255.0 UG 0 0 0 eth0 |
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| 22:34.47 | tremon | I usually find the output of ip route to be better readable, but yes it should be |
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| 22:44.04 | MadHatter42 | tremon, did that on tower1 set as default gw the towe2 |
| 22:44.08 | MadHatter42 | got locked out XD |
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| 22:45.48 | tremon | MadHatter42: lol, you're not on the same subnet? |
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| 22:46.04 | MadHatter42 | well i thought that i was |
| 22:46.09 | MadHatter42 | XD |
| 22:46.32 | tremon | good thing you could still reach it from the other tower :) |
| 22:46.50 | MadHatter42 | yes |
| 22:47.00 | tremon | I have to go, you might want to try asking ##networking |
| 22:47.07 | MadHatter42 | i got from the other one and deleted that |
| 22:47.12 | tremon | best of luck |
| 22:47.15 | MadHatter42 | thnx for all man |
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| 22:52.35 | kerneloopz | richac: well I tried plugging in the frozen HDD. No change. It's too far gone. Time of death 4:52 PM |
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| 22:54.06 | richac | kerneloopz: :( |
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| 22:54.34 | kerneloopz | couldn't have said it better myself |
| 22:54.34 | richac | kerneloopz: is there a warranty still on it? |
| 22:54.46 | kerneloopz | well it was a good HDD for the few months I had it :( |
| 22:54.51 | kerneloopz | no, expired last May :( |
| 22:55.02 | richac | dam |
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| 22:55.20 | kerneloopz | note to self: buy Western Digital |
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| 22:55.36 | richac | eh, all pc hardware sucks nowadays |
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| 22:56.08 | kerneloopz | hmm, the Nvidia GTX 970 looks awesome |
| 22:56.14 | richac | lol |
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| 22:56.24 | kerneloopz | other than that, yeah everything else sucks |
| 22:56.25 | richac | what would you use it for? |
| 22:56.33 | kerneloopz | Folding@home OpenCL work |
| 22:56.43 | richac | oh |
| 22:56.46 | kerneloopz | + rendering |
| 22:57.05 | kerneloopz | but that card doesn't fit in my server |
| 22:57.06 | richac | Hitachi seems to best |
| 22:57.08 | richac | http://www.extremetech.com/extreme/175089-who-makes-the-most-reliable-hard-drives |
| 22:57.10 | kerneloopz | not even in the empty HDD bay :( |
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| 22:57.47 | richac | i've read hitachi is most realiable on a couple sites |
| 22:58.03 | richac | but who knows |
| 22:58.24 | kerneloopz | thanks, good to know |
| 22:58.35 | kerneloopz | anyway, g2g, thanks for the help |
| 22:58.40 | richac | later |
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| 23:04.56 | zq | /etc/init.d/rc S launches startpar which never returns thus blocking the entire system from booting |
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| 23:07.15 | DonnieDarko21 | guys i got 1 noob question is it possible to connect my phone with pc usb and make to work mobile broadband gsm |
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| 23:08.32 | dltl | zq put lots of 'echos #' in the script to see what is being executed and where it is hanging |
| 23:08.40 | somiaj | DonnieDarko21: possible I would say yes, I am unsure what sort of special software you would need for this though. |
| 23:08.59 | somiaj | DonnieDarko21: it is usually easier to put your phone in mobil hotspot mode and connect to it via wireless (think many support this) |
| 23:09.24 | somiaj | DonnieDarko21: assuming smart phone here, older cell phones will be hit/miss if there is software to support what you want. |
| 23:09.34 | DonnieDarko21 | android |
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| 23:09.47 | somiaj | does your machien you want to connect it to have wireless? |
| 23:09.56 | DonnieDarko21 | yes |
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| 23:10.21 | DonnieDarko21 | whats the name of the software that i will need for linux |
| 23:10.23 | somiaj | DonnieDarko21: look under apps, you may have a 'mobil hotspot' app, run that, set up the hotspot, connect to it via wireless -- this is also offtopic here as it is not #debian (: |
| 23:10.38 | DonnieDarko21 | sorry thansk ":D |
| 23:10.50 | somiaj | DonnieDarko21: you won't need any software for linux, this is all done on the andriod device, then linux just has to connect to the wireless network you create |
| 23:11.26 | DonnieDarko21 | ohh thanks ...i ll try by the way it cant be work throw usb ? |
| 23:11.32 | DonnieDarko21 | cable |
| 23:11.34 | DonnieDarko21 | :D |
| 23:12.12 | somiaj | it might be able too, but this may require special software so linux knows to route the info though the usb cable and I am not familar with such software. |
| 23:13.02 | DonnieDarko21 | ohh okay thanks you clear me out i was searching and didnt find any only usb3g |
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| 23:14.44 | DonnieDarko21 | usbmodem |
| 23:14.47 | DonnieDarko21 | ok thanks |
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| 23:31.39 | rpgdude | hey guys i just upgraded my system to jessie, and gdm does load X |
| 23:31.42 | rpgdude | *doesnt |
| 23:31.55 | rpgdude | startx works though |
| 23:32.03 | rpgdude | any ideas? |
| 23:32.14 | rpgdude | maybe has something to do with systemd config? |
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| 23:40.13 | Brigo | rpgdude, new to systemd? :) |
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| 23:40.53 | rpgdude | yup |
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| 23:41.06 | rpgdude | i think systemd loaded gdm3 |
| 23:41.13 | rpgdude | but X doesnt start |
| 23:42.44 | Brigo | what tell systemctl status gdm3.service? |
| 23:43.48 | rpgdude | active running |
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| 23:44.20 | Resilience | good night to everyone |
| 23:45.14 | Resilience | I am not sure of this is the right channel to ask, but I'n in th emiddlel of purchasing new computers, and I woudl like to know how is the support of 4k resolution with intel hd cards (haswell processor) I would like to build a workstation and a media center |
| 23:45.23 | Brigo | rpgdude, you have to search logs for errors about gdm3. I think it will be your best bet |
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| 23:46.49 | somiaj | Resilience: haswell gpu is not supported in wheezy, you will have to be running a newer xorg (jessie) for full support. Since i have no monintors that suport 4k resolution I don't know how well linux supports it |
| 23:46.50 | rpgdude | there are no logs for gdm3 |
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| 23:47.52 | Resilience | somiaj, how do I know which name of debian I am using? |
| 23:48.07 | Brigo | rpgdude, try .xsession-errors in you home dir. |
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| 23:48.23 | rgb-one | hello |
| 23:49.05 | rained | Resilience, cat /etc/issue -> 7 = wheezy, 8 = jessie |
| 23:49.29 | rgb-one | does anyone know how costly managing an IT infrastructure is for a university |
| 23:49.48 | rgb-one | ? |
| 23:49.53 | Brigo | Resilience, lsb_release -a |
| 23:50.20 | Resilience | running jessie so... do I have support for 4 k? |
| 23:52.09 | Brigo | Resilience, run lspci -nn and paste the 8 number between brackets. |
| 23:53.52 | Resilience | Brigo, 8 number? 8th line? |
| 23:54.16 | Brigo | 8 numbers in the line of your graphic card. |
| 23:54.35 | Brigo | Resilience, like this: [168c:002d] |
| 23:55.19 | Resilience | Brigo, I am not interested in running 4k with my graphic card, I like to purchase new equipment, and I want to know what to pruchase in order to get 4k support |
| 23:55.55 | Brigo | Resilience, ah, i understand you now. I can help then, i know nothing about 4k. |
| 23:56.28 | Resilience | can? can't? |
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| 23:57.44 | PryMar56 | what is correct default runlevel in jessie with systemd? which file? /lib/systemd/system/runlevel2.target ? |
| 23:57.47 | Brigo | Resilience, can't, of course, sorry, it is late for me :) |
| 23:58.05 | PryMar56 | this is a server install |
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| 23:58.21 | Artemis3v | Resilience, thats more hardware than software limitation, newer gpus can't old ones don't. |
| 23:58.27 | Brigo | PryMar56, i think threre is not such thing like runlevels, in systemd but targets. |
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| 23:58.30 | Resilience | brightkill, ok ok, no worry, I was only beeing "pundy" |
| 23:58.44 | Artemis3v | er can |
| 23:58.48 | Resilience | brigo, ok ok, no worry, I was only beeing "pundy" |
| 23:59.06 | Brigo | Resilience, :) |
| 23:59.10 | brightkill | bot? |
| 23:59.16 | Resilience | Artemis3, I was asking for hardware... |
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| 23:59.56 | rained | brightkill, no, wrong use of Tab |
| 23:59.58 | Artemis3v | Resilience, i don't think you can fail when purchasing soemthing "new" |