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| 01:13.26 | juantelez | Â/j nova |
| 01:13.34 | juantelez | sorry |
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| 01:16.47 | knosys | hey guys |
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| 01:18.38 | AlexLikerock | http://paste.debian.net/128455/ |
| 01:19.22 | knosys | im thinking if i should make a extended sudoers file configuration for my user, or just ALL=ALL. Is is safer to just add aptitute and few basic command permissions? Or it doesnt worth? |
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| 01:27.52 | Makyuu | I have xset and synclient commands to be executed on login. Where could the commands be placed so that they're executed automatically on login? |
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| 01:28.50 | knosys | I did myusername myhostname=(ALL) ALL |
| 01:28.53 | knosys | i hope thats okay |
| 01:29.07 | EdePopede | hi all. tu-dresden.de seems to be completely down and with it ftp.de.debian.org. any suggestions for the moment? crate a new .list in /etc/apt/sources.list.d, change /etc/apt/sources.list? and if so, should i add new entries (of say ftp5.gwdg.de) or comment out ftp.de for the moment? |
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| 01:31.07 | Makyuu | knosys, it depends somewhat on your situation(who else has physical access and whether you have things such as SSH active) and how secure you need the system to be. |
| 01:31.25 | Makyuu | I can't really give a better answer than that, sorry |
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| 01:33.01 | LMNOP | Makyuu, do u mean ~/.bash_profile |
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| 01:35.06 | LMNOP | hmm or ~/.profile |
| 01:35.07 | Makyuu | I've tried adding them to .profile and .xinitrc, I'll try .bash_profile |
| 01:35.14 | LMNOP | mm... |
| 01:35.37 | LMNOP | maybe a rc. file i never do it |
| 01:35.39 | Makyuu | Adding them to .profile and/or .xinitrc had no effect |
| 01:35.40 | LMNOP | rc.local |
| 01:35.42 | LMNOP | hmm |
| 01:35.49 | AlexLikerock | help |
| 01:36.39 | LMNOP | wut |
| 01:37.34 | Makyuu | Hrm, just like with ~/.xinitrc, ~/.bash_profile doesn't exist. |
| 01:38.30 | dondelelcaro | Makyuu: usually you set them in your ~/.xinit or ~/.xsession |
| 01:38.42 | dondelelcaro | Makyuu: since you normally only need to run xset commands once when you start your X session |
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| 01:41.27 | LMNOP | i have one but it is Arch Linux.. Debian might handle things differently. [[ -f ~/.bashrc ]] && . ~/.bashrc |
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| 01:41.51 | Makyuu | dondelelcaro: I've tried adding the synclient commands to ~/.xsession to no effect, and neither it nor ~/.xinit seem to exist at default state. |
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| 01:42.05 | dondelelcaro | Makyuu: how are you starting X? |
| 01:42.16 | dondelelcaro | Makyuu: yes, neither of them exist by default. |
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| 01:43.02 | Makyuu | I'm using lightdm as the login manager currently |
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| 01:43.09 | LMNOP | yeah .xinit sshoulx satrt things in X |
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| 01:43.30 | LMNOP | wow s/sshoulx/should |
| 01:43.39 | dondelelcaro | Makyuu: you need to use the right session if you're using xdm |
| 01:43.42 | dondelelcaro | s/xdm/lightdm/ |
| 01:43.48 | dondelelcaro | Makyuu: see http://askubuntu.com/questions/77191/how-can-i-use-lightdm-for-user-defined-sessions for example |
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| 01:44.24 | dondelelcaro | Makyuu: if lightdm is starting something else besides /etc/X11/Xsession, ~/.xinitrc and ~/.xsession might be ignored completely |
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| 01:45.16 | LMNOP | ooh yeah |
| 01:45.24 | Makyuu | dondelelcaro: That does seem to be what is happening. |
| 01:45.29 | LMNOP | i not like login managers |
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| 01:47.02 | MarvelDigital | can i get a hooha sergeant? |
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| 01:47.47 | ectospasm | Hoorah, this is the USMC, bub. |
| 01:47.57 | Makyuu | Sure enough, the file it uses is /usr/bin/enlightenment_start |
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| 01:48.33 | LMNOP | e17? |
| 01:48.34 | Makyuu | So I should create a custom session file for using /etc/X11/Xsession, then? |
| 01:48.34 | Makyuu | Aye, e17 |
| 01:48.51 | LMNOP | have not tried yet hmmm |
| 01:49.14 | MarvelDigital | but rangers lead the way... |
| 01:49.23 | rebauld_ | wut? since when can jarheads work a computer? |
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| 01:53.39 | ectospasm | I bet some of the officers know how to |
| 01:54.04 | somiaj | Makyuu: I would create a custom file to use what DE you want. Also you have tried to see if it honors the alternatives system, update-alternatives --config x-desktop-enviorment (though it could be x-window-manager if you jsut want a wm) |
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| 01:57.08 | Makyuu | somiaj: No clue what you mean by "alternatives system." |
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| 01:58.01 | Makyuu | That command returns "no alternatives for x-desktop-environment" though |
| 01:58.05 | tharkun | I'm looking for a version control system fully supported in debian which is lightweight and easy to use. Any suggestions? |
| 01:58.05 | somiaj | Makyuu: packages can set defaults via the debian alternatives system that can be modified by a system adminstrator. the command I pasted would allow you to pick the system default. |
| 01:58.11 | somiaj | Makyuu: try x-window-manager in stead |
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| 01:59.08 | Makyuu | Three options on that one - two "/usr/bin/enlightenment-start" lines and a "/usr/bin/openbox" line. |
| 01:59.52 | somiaj | Makyuu: pick the one you want as default. I'm unsure if lightdm will honor this though. |
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| 02:00.49 | somiaj | tharkun: The three main ones I know of are all supported in debian, cvs, svn and git. git seems to be fairly popular these days |
| 02:00.58 | MarvelDigital | times are changing, even the bad guys are becoming more high tech haha |
| 02:01.12 | Makyuu | somiaj: The problem isn't selecting a WM, the problem is that I need synclient and xset commands executed when I log in... Is this related? |
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| 02:02.30 | somiaj | Makyuu: ahh no I missed that, sorry thought you wanted to set these commands. Another alternative is to have your wm run those commands when it loads. What wm are you using (this is opposed to modifing the session when run by lightdm) |
| 02:03.05 | Makyuu | I'm using e17. |
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| 02:05.07 | somiaj | Makyuu: it appears you can create .desktop files in ~/.local/share/applications and then they will be selectable under the Startup Apps control pannel. |
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| 02:06.17 | Makyuu | somiaj: That might be perfect, thanks. I'll take a look in there |
| 02:06.42 | knosys | Hey guys is there any way to force the system to ask me for user password everytime "sudo" it's called in terminal? I dont know why it remember by default |
| 02:06.42 | somiaj | Makyuu: http://quandtum.weebly.com/enlightenment.html here is an example of doing that |
| 02:07.19 | somiaj | knosys: you want to turn off the timeout so you can run multippel commands in a set time period with only one authentication? |
| 02:07.27 | tharkun | somiaj: Thanks i'll research them. What do you use? |
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| 02:07.54 | knosys | no, i want to been asked every time i try to use administrative privileges |
| 02:08.04 | knosys | i mean, been asked for the user password |
| 02:08.13 | knosys | the user its already a sudoer |
| 02:08.34 | somiaj | tharkun: I don't use any perosnally, but I have used all as a client over the years as different software packages I compile from pustream use one of the other, though cvs the old standard is not that common at all anymore. From listening to others talk git is probabaly a good one to look at if you don't have any preference |
| 02:08.37 | knosys | but once i use "sudo" command in a session and type the password, it remembers for the whole session |
| 02:08.49 | Makyuu | Aye, there's actually a GUI element(?) for creating those, I didn't even realise it as a possibility. I even used it already to add menu options for running things with gksu... |
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| 02:09.23 | somiaj | knosys: well there is a timeout, you can change the amount of time since the last command used with sudo before it asks for a password or just disable that feature |
| 02:09.39 | knosys | somiaj: that is interesting, where is the timeout value? |
| 02:09.39 | somiaj | knosys: sudo visudo, then add this line to your Defaults, Defaults timestamp_timeout=-1 |
| 02:10.00 | knosys | thanks you |
| 02:10.02 | somiaj | you can also set it say 2 mins, or so so you can enter in a string of commands in a short period without being asked |
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| 02:10.08 | somiaj | read the man page for the values (units) it wants the info in |
| 02:10.47 | knosys | oki |
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| 02:12.08 | somiaj | knosys: and -1 is nto what you want, I think you'll want 0, or if you decided some small value. I kinda like that feature, but if you step away then auth is needed agian |
| 02:12.13 | somiaj | -1 means no limit |
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| 02:14.56 | knosys | somiaj: perfect, set to 0 and does what it should |
| 02:15.01 | knosys | nice, thanks |
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| 02:16.03 | Avic | what you guys sugest to connect to a server gui? |
| 02:16.41 | Avic | x2go doesn't work because of a problem in resolution in client |
| 02:17.09 | Avic | it has mate installed |
| 02:17.17 | Avic | the server |
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| 02:17.34 | Avic | the client must be for windows 7 |
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| 02:18.47 | tharkun | somiaj: No preferences at all. Thanks for your insight. |
| 02:18.53 | somiaj | You have various ways, you could do x forwarding over ssh or you could use something like vnc |
| 02:19.52 | somiaj | Avic: ^^ |
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| 02:24.18 | brentaarnold | I recently switched from Fedora 20 to Debian 7.7. I have a secondary 300GB HDD in which I store VM's for VMWare Workstation 10.0.3. Now that I've formatted the primary SSD, I can no longer see the VM files on the HDD. |
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| 02:24.24 | brentaarnold | Any ideas? |
| 02:24.37 | Makyuu | somiaj: That did the trick, thank you! |
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| 02:26.01 | brentaarnold | Also of note: I store cloud files there as well (Dropbox, etc.) and they are visible. |
| 02:26.11 | Avic | vnc then |
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| 02:26.28 | Avic | i want to see the desktop enviornment |
| 02:26.41 | Avic | somiaj |
| 02:27.14 | knosys | brentaarnold: fdisk -l does show you the partition? |
| 02:27.19 | Avic | x forwarding i can't see the desktop environment. right? |
| 02:27.46 | brentaarnold | knosys: I've just figured it out, and I'm way too embarassed to clarify. |
| 02:28.01 | Avic | lol |
| 02:28.12 | somiaj | Avic: correct you just see the windows in the desktop enviroment you are in |
| 02:28.29 | Simotek-Work- | Avic, there are tools that will allow you to see the desktop through forwarding x |
| 02:28.31 | knosys | hahaha okay, good |
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| 02:28.47 | Avic | oh |
| 02:28.48 | pigbenis | Hello I have a MBP 7,1 (2010) 13" laptop. I'm having problems booting my operating system in legacy bios mode. It's booting normally in EFI (despite me having to add the nodeset boot option to the kernel). I have gotten my MBP to boot in legacy bios before and what's strange now it's that it no longer works, no matter the OS.). The screen just goes white and has a bunch of black lines moving around. Did something fry? |
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| 02:29.08 | Simotek-Work- | what do you want to see the desktop for? |
| 02:29.26 | Avic | i want to use some aplications |
| 02:29.41 | Avic | so i need to see the desktop |
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| 02:30.48 | Avic | open an aplication window and work seeing it |
| 02:31.40 | somiaj | Avic: what is wrong with just seeing the window that you want to work in |
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| 02:32.12 | Avic | nothing |
| 02:32.17 | Simotek-Work- | yeah normally thats easier, if you want the full desktop you could look at something like freenx |
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| 02:32.33 | Avic | but i have to drag files to that window spaces |
| 02:33.11 | Avic | that application needs me to drag files to it |
| 02:33.18 | Simotek-Work- | that starts to make it harder, can you open the files using a dialog? |
| 02:33.28 | Avic | can be fone by cli, but i'm not used to it |
| 02:33.38 | Avic | i need to see the desktop |
| 02:34.01 | Avic | kde or mate? |
| 02:34.11 | Avic | in your opinion? |
| 02:34.32 | somiaj | then use some server like vnc |
| 02:34.38 | Avic | i like mate more than xfce |
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| 02:34.55 | Avic | never used kde |
| 02:35.08 | Avic | ok |
| 02:35.08 | Simotek-Work- | mate may work better through vnc as it probably doesn't need gl |
| 02:35.28 | Avic | gl? |
| 02:35.40 | Avic | so mate it is |
| 02:35.48 | Avic | now for vnc |
| 02:35.58 | Avic | is xvnc? |
| 02:36.30 | Simotek-Work- | desktop environments like kde and gnome use openGL to render the desktop using you dedicated graphics hardware if you have it |
| 02:36.45 | Simotek-Work- | they can't do that through x forwarding / vnc |
| 02:37.16 | Avic | oh |
| 02:37.37 | Avic | so mate is better for me, thanks for the information |
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| 02:37.54 | Avic | and? vnc |
| 02:38.20 | Avic | what is the name of the x server? |
| 02:38.26 | Avic | xvnc? |
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| 02:39.50 | Simotek-Work- | xvnc is probably one of the better ones |
| 02:39.54 | Simotek-Work- | tightvnc is also popular |
| 02:41.54 | Avic | ok xvnc |
| 02:42.49 | Avic | http://www.hep.phy.cam.ac.uk/vnc_docs/xvnc.html |
| 02:42.52 | Avic | this? |
| 02:43.05 | Avic | there are so much vnc pages |
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| 02:43.18 | Avic | ... |
| 02:43.35 | Avic | vnc, realvnc, vnc viwer, tightvnc... |
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| 02:44.45 | Avic | looks very bad... |
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| 02:45.40 | somiaj | I don't see xvnc in debian so I would suggest tightvncserver since it is a debian package. AFter that you just need to find a windows client |
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| 02:48.47 | Avic | vnc4server |
| 02:48.50 | Avic | ? |
| 02:48.55 | Avic | other one... |
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| 02:50.47 | xar- | how often is the packages.debian.org updated? I'm trying to find data regarding the new mysql-server 5.5.40 package, but it doesn't seem to be on the website |
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| 02:52.47 | somiaj | xar-: I think once or twice a day |
| 02:53.06 | somiaj | xar-: What are you looking for? Would apt-file provide it for you? |
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| 02:55.34 | xar- | I was just referencing the DSA notification that went out |
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| 02:57.32 | somiaj | xar-: What specificly do you want to find |
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| 02:59.24 | xar- | changelog from .38 to .40 |
| 02:59.58 | somiaj | fetch the actual package from teh security.debian.org mirror, extract it, change log is in there |
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| 03:03.24 | pigbenis | does my lan port require drivers? surfing the net is really slow |
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| 03:08.11 | somiaj | pigbenis: If you can get an ip they are already loaded. Do other machines on this same lan have slowness to the same sight or is it a symptom of only this device? |
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| 03:10.47 | pigbenis | somiaj: this is the only device within this home on this network |
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| 03:12.16 | somiaj | pigbenis: Is it connected to a router? Can you say ping the router and see if you get a speedy response? |
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| 03:12.54 | pigbenis | somiaj: 64 bytes from 192.168.1.1: icmp_seq=4 ttl=64 time=0.729 ms |
| 03:13.17 | pigbenis | somiaj: 4 packets transmitted, 4 received, 0% packet loss, time 2999ms |
| 03:14.48 | pigbenis | somiaj: what are your thoughts? |
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| 03:17.09 | Makyuu | pigbenis: It could be that your DNS server is slow to respond - try pinging it and seeing how fast it responds. |
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| 03:22.24 | somiaj | pigbenis: that seems fine, and as Makyuu suggst try 'ping google.com' does it take a while for it to give you an uip, what are your speeds |
| 03:23.47 | pigbenis | Makyuu: according to this http://sprunge.us/fGAD my nameserver is my routers ip address |
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| 03:24.44 | pigbenis | somiaj: here are the results http://sprunge.us/idEi |
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| 03:27.08 | somiaj | pigbenis: did you feel it took longer than it shoudl to start (i.e. how long did it take from typing to command to seeing that ip address from google) |
| 03:27.24 | somiaj | pigbenis: but everything seems fine in terms of basic network conectvity, what exactly is slow? |
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| 03:27.58 | pigbenis | somiaj: loading web pages in iceweasle |
| 03:28.07 | Makyuu | pigbenis: That means that your router is forwarding the DNS requests elsewhere. If you can access it's configuration it should tell you what your actual DNS servers are. |
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| 03:28.36 | pigbenis | I can |
| 03:29.01 | Makyuu | pigbenis: Is it slow to _start_ loading, or does it take a long time to finish once it has started loading? The former would imply slow DNS. |
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| 03:29.19 | pigbenis | Makyuu: it takes forever to start loading |
| 03:29.53 | pigbenis | Makyuu: there aren't any options in my router to change the nameserver |
| 03:30.17 | Makyuu | That sounds like it is a slow nameserver. Try setting a different nameserver on your PC, such as 4.2.2.1 or 8.8.8.8 |
| 03:31.18 | pigbenis | Makyuu: I have never changed the nameserver on debian |
| 03:31.29 | pigbenis | Makyuu: but I'll try |
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| 03:33.56 | thinkxl | video no suitable, booting in blind mode while trying to boot on my usb using debian weezy on my macbook pro |
| 03:34.10 | thinkxl | I already googled for an hour and didn't find any userful or specific |
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| 03:37.40 | thinkxl | anyone? :) |
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| 03:49.11 | somiaj | thinkxl: try hitting ctrl-alt-f1 (do you get a text console you can loginto) also check out https://wiki.debian.org/MacBook |
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| 03:50.09 | thinkxl | can I run startxfce from there? |
| 03:50.44 | thinkxl | or at least I can try to troubleshoot from there |
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| 03:52.06 | somiaj | thinkxl: you can trouble shot from the text console, most likely a video driver issue |
| 03:52.15 | somiaj | thinkxl: that is if it is a display manager that isn't loading correclty |
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| 03:53.55 | thinkxl | somiaj: cool, thank you, going to try that |
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| 03:55.25 | trix`G | hello! |
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| 03:57.22 | trix`G | so, I steal neighbor wifi (with permission!) with laptop (Kali) and share it with PC via Ethernet cable directly from laptop to PC. I use IPv4 sharing in options and it always worked on several PCs. |
| 03:57.47 | somiaj | !kalilinux |
| 03:57.52 | somiaj | !kali |
| 03:57.53 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>. |
| 03:57.54 | trix`G | today I try to install Debian netinst, the same way, but it won't detect internet! |
| 03:58.13 | trix`G | right my issue with Debian install, Kali is working fine |
| 03:58.14 | somiaj | !tel trix`G about firmware images |
| 03:58.58 | trix`G | firmware? it detects and installs eth0 fine, just fails at DHCP and manually putting static IP doesn't work either |
| 03:59.08 | somiaj | trix`G: most wifi cards require non-free firmware to function and debian provides them in a seperate non-free repo. this is not on the main netinstall images, but the info I had the bot send you gives some unoffical images that contain the non-free firmware and should work |
| 03:59.25 | somiaj | oh so you have a wire it isn't wireless? |
| 03:59.29 | trix`G | it's not wifi, the wifi works. perhaps I explain badly? |
| 03:59.51 | somiaj | no I read badly, sorry...(: |
| 04:00.09 | trix`G | ok. laptop has wifi an Kali, uses wifi to get internet. then, laptop share Internet via Ethernet cord to the PC I'm installing Debian on |
| 04:00.18 | trix`G | so PC not have wifi just eth0 |
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| 04:01.21 | trix`G | this work on all other PC, but Debian netinst won't detect dhcp settings nor accept static ip, no idea why |
| 04:01.45 | trix`G | been googling for over two hours with no luck :( |
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| 04:03.44 | somiaj | trix`G: well sounds to me like the dhcprequest or packets are not getting routed though the kali box correctly. But as you said other pcs don't seem to have this problem so I'm unsure what is going on. What sort of other pcs are you talking about? |
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| 04:05.59 | trix`G | I have Gentoo and linux mint and windows xp on 3 different PCs and when I plug the laptop Ethernet cable into them, they have internet |
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| 04:06.42 | trix`G | wait this particular box is a dell poweredge 1800 server, with two Ethernet ports, maybe that cause problem? |
| 04:06.52 | somiaj | check dmesg, some wired cards do like firmware too. |
| 04:08.32 | somiaj | well open up a console look at dmesg or ip addr or /sbin/ifconfig -a, and see if you notice anything about the device and how it is detected |
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| 04:10.33 | trix`G | dmesg say "eth0: link is not ready" |
| 04:11.20 | trix`G | console say lots but weird thing is "INFO: No IPv6 support found... how does that happen?" |
| 04:11.28 | trix`G | it asking me a question! |
| 04:11.52 | somiaj | hmm, not sure |
| 04:12.07 | trix`G | let me try other eth port |
| 04:13.11 | trix`G | GARBLEBARGLE |
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| 04:13.30 | trix`G | it worked! I'm happy and angry, I friggin tried this already |
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| 04:14.54 | somiaj | glad you got it to work. (: |
| 04:15.18 | trix`G | grr that shouldn't have worked, this port is the one I was trying the FIRST time. see what happens when you take ddate out of util-linux upstream? ERIS get mad at geeks! |
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| 04:17.27 | trix`G | thank you though for your help! Also I apologize for atrocious grammar and such, hard to type in IRC from tiny smartphone |
| 04:18.24 | somiaj | trix`G: well I didn't read your question that well to start with, sometimes just takes talking the problem though whith someone to try something new |
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| 04:20.04 | trix`G | indeed! also sometimes I just need someone to suggest the obvious thing I forgot :) |
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| 04:22.41 | trix`G | if I select "file server" on software selection during install, does that mean like, samba, or does it mean like NAS? |
| 04:22.50 | trix`G | or ftp? |
| 04:23.17 | somiaj | trix`G: you can look at the actual task, https://wiki.debian.org/tasksel |
| 04:23.43 | somiaj | so tasksel --task-packages file-server |
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| 04:24.35 | trix`G | not yet at this point of install I can't, only a very basic she'll available |
| 04:24.45 | trix`G | shell* grr smartphone |
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| 04:26.25 | trix`G | ah well no matter, its 4TB of space in RAID10 so I think it no big deal if extras installed that I don't use |
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| 04:49.21 | jefferysmokedalo | Hello if I add dns-nameserver 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4 to this file http://sprunge.us/NahZ would that be all it take to set dns server? |
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| 05:04.10 | jefferysmokedalo | Hello if I add dns-nameserver 8.8.8.8 8.8.4.4 to this file http://sprunge.us/NahZ would that be all it take to set dns server? |
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| 05:39.43 | socketguru | hey guys |
| 05:39.58 | socketguru | I am making a debian package out of a c program.. |
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| 05:40.08 | cryptohex | yo guys |
| 05:40.14 | socketguru | is it okay to not to include secret GPG key |
| 05:40.22 | cryptohex | http://cryptohex.us.to/?p=245 |
| 05:40.26 | cryptohex | read this |
| 05:40.29 | rww | cryptohex: hi skraito |
| 05:40.35 | cryptohex | We publish for free |
| 05:40.41 | cryptohex | is Our but only i386 |
| 05:40.47 | cryptohex | not 64bit |
| 05:40.56 | cryptohex | is updated to rawhide 22-1 |
| 05:41.01 | rww | Couldn't you just download and rename the Fedora 64-bit ISO too? |
| 05:41.02 | cryptohex | blender is there |
| 05:41.02 | heurist | !enter |
| 05:41.03 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 05:41.05 | heurist | !ot |
| 05:41.14 | cryptohex | nope |
| 05:41.16 | heurist | !ot |
| 05:41.16 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 05:41.19 | cryptohex | this is not fedora |
| 05:41.25 | cryptohex | We kill redhat |
| 05:41.42 | cryptohex | anyway linus trovalds is in my team |
| 05:41.56 | cryptohex | We already said that kernel is not free and backdoored |
| 05:42.01 | cryptohex | is kernel hook |
| 05:42.05 | cryptohex | with encryption |
| 05:42.19 | cryptohex | you can't remove it , it will spoilt the kernel |
| 05:42.26 | cryptohex | there 1200 backdoor in it |
| 05:42.38 | sandman13 | oh he is here too SynrGy, abrotman cryptohex is spamming |
| 05:42.40 | cryptohex | just use AstaraOS or FuruDora |
| 05:42.53 | rww | !ops skraito's being ill again |
| 05:42.56 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: rww complains about: skraito's being ill again |
| 05:43.24 | sandman13 | cryptohex: there are some sites like pastebin, bpaste.net, paste.ubuntu.net, etc. where you can paste your stuff and link us here. More you know ; |
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| 05:44.24 | rww | ta |
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| 05:54.17 | metala | !why systemd |
| 05:54.19 | dpkg | a tired argument. Start by reading rra's excellent analysis at https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2013/12/msg00234.html Support for other init systems (sysvinit) will still be present in Debian 8. systemd-shim (in development) will allow userspace requiring some systemd APIs to work without it. |
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| 06:20.16 | ekaj | To reboot on a debian-based system, I typically do 'reboot' as root.. I know you can also do 'init 6' and it will reboot. Is there a different between the commands, i.e. one has a graceful shutdown while the other just stops everything? |
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| 06:20.23 | trix`G | can anyone recommend a good cpu benchmark utility for servers with multiple cpu? |
| 06:20.24 | heurist | ekaj: they are pretty much do the same thing. reboot is better, since it is clearer and easier to remember. init6 comes from the days before they had space for extra command like reboot and shutdown. |
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| 07:19.36 | JLindeberg | Hey... anyone have a package for TLP that support Jessie? |
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| 07:19.37 | r4co0n | Good morning. When working on a machine of mine, I noticed upstart was installed. 'aptitude why upstart' found no reason to keep it, so I removed it. Now I'm not sure if the system will be bootable next time... How could I check? What other packages provide the same functionality? Shouldn't apt make sure (via dependencies) that at least one init system is installed? |
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| 08:04.01 | Iridos | judd, versions lxc |
| 08:04.02 | judd | Package: lxc on i386 -- squeeze: 0.7.2-1; squeeze-backports: 0.8.0~rc1-4~bpo60+1; wheezy: 0.8.0~rc1-8+deb7u2; jessie: 1:1.0.5-3; sid: 1:1.0.6-3 |
| 08:04.14 | Iridos | dpkg, tell micw about ssb |
| 08:04.35 | Iridos | micw, soon: YOU |
| 08:04.52 | Iridos | lets see if it's painful or not |
| 08:05.13 | tytan | "exfat-fuse" works perfectly. Now you can share your exFAT formatted thumb drive between Windows, OS X and Debian ^^ |
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| 08:06.08 | Iridos | judd, checkbackport lxc |
| 08:06.18 | judd | Backporting package lxc in sidâwheezy/i386: all build-dependencies satisfied using wheezy-backports, wheezy, virtual. |
| 08:06.35 | Iridos | shouldn't run into problems |
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| 08:09.37 | rozie | hi. not sure if this is right channel, as question is regarding Wheezy and backports, but I shall give a try... I have Debian with backported kernel (3.16-0.bpo.2-amd64). after switching to this(? - not sure if it was 3.16 exactly, one in backports) kernel, brightness control (physical keys) don't work anymore |
| 08:10.07 | rozie | acpi_listen show event properly. I wonder, what process this request and how can I debug it |
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| 08:10.36 | rozie | echoing values to /sys/class/backlight/intel_backlight/brightness works fine |
| 08:10.49 | micw | Iridos, just wnatet to know if it's already done ^^ |
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| 08:25.36 | Iridos | micw, it's not in the official backports. possible/likely someone somewhere on the world did it for his own use. but if it's the work of 15 minutes, nobody would even bother to write it in a blog etc. and of the 1500 people in here, probably less than 10 are reading the channel at the time, so how likely is it any of those did... |
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| 09:16.56 | Bluewolf | Hi all |
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| 09:26.33 | Bluewolf | Could someone explain to my why my Debian Wheezy 7.6 Gnome system is running so high, why is the OS not revolving this? - http://img.susepaste.org/63293200 - http://img.susepaste.org/31184065 |
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| 09:27.56 | doev | is there a reason to not add new lines to /etc/ld.so.conf pointing on library-directorys in the home folder? |
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| 09:28.36 | bolt | doev: depends if you're the only user of the system or not |
| 09:29.21 | doev | bolt, another user can't read the *.so files, right. |
| 09:29.26 | bolt | indeed |
| 09:29.51 | bolt | Bluewolf: just pay attention to top, or some other process monitor, and see what's using the cpu time |
| 09:30.43 | doev | I keep that in mind, but the applications which need special libraries are build by the user and installed to /home/user/bin |
| 09:30.55 | bolt | Bluewolf: the cpu time counters in top may prove more useful than the current usage |
| 09:31.13 | petn-randall | Bluewolf: High on what? Looks like a more or less idle desktop system to me. |
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| 09:31.27 | venkat_330 | hi all, need guidance in partioning a hard drive with advance format. |
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| 09:32.21 | bolt | venkat_330: try a more specific question |
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| 09:33.14 | Bluewolf | petn-randall: My ram is running high, it never used to do this with a fresh install. Now my systems ram overloads itself to the point when it just about freezes if I dont force quit the program causing it? |
| 09:33.15 | khurram | hello |
| 09:33.35 | yottanami | What is the best command line IRC client on Debian Packages? |
| 09:33.51 | Bluewolf | bolt: My CPU is fine, its the Ram which is taking a pounding? |
| 09:34.04 | bolt | Bluewolf: unused ram is wasted ram. run "free". |
| 09:34.08 | khurram | i installed the wheezy on VMBox i want to change the default download mirror for apt-get installs ? can some one please help me how can i pick another mirror backports |
| 09:34.13 | heurist | Bluewolf: http://www.linuxatemyram.com/ |
| 09:34.21 | bolt | yottanami: please don't do polls. just look at the available clients and pick one. |
| 09:34.51 | petn-randall | !tell yottanami about best |
| 09:35.06 | venkat_330 | I have hard of 320 gb size which supports advance format. |
| 09:35.06 | venkat_330 | so what are steps and procedure i need follow to make it function with 4k mode. |
| 09:35.06 | venkat_330 | whenever i partion with gparted i get errors like "Partition 1 does not end on cylinder boundary." |
| 09:35.14 | jelly | yottanami: irssi probably the most common; weechat also seems nice |
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| 09:35.54 | yottanami | I also need notifier in X |
| 09:36.04 | yottanami | jelly: does it support? |
| 09:36.21 | heurist | dpkg: tell yottanami -about crosspost |
| 09:36.33 | jelly | yottanami: no idea, I use hexchat or xchat. |
| 09:36.59 | heurist | yottanami: weechat supports a range of notify options via plugins. |
| 09:37.28 | Bluewolf | bolt: I don't have a problem if my ram is used, it becomes a problem when my general usage is affected to the extent of rebooting it. http://paste.debian.net/128481/ |
| 09:37.35 | jelly | yottanami: I find monospace fonts hard to read, so I avoid terminal-based clients |
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| 09:38.27 | bolt | Bluewolf: sort by memory usage in top and see what's using it |
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| 09:39.34 | Bluewolf | bolt: I did that in the screen shot - http://img.susepaste.org/31184065 |
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| 09:40.25 | Bluewolf | The question is why is Rhythmbox using so much? |
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| 09:41.13 | bolt | I wouldn't know. I don't use it. Maybe it's indexing your files? Or maybe it just is a memory hog? Or it's a bug? |
| 09:41.19 | doev | When I use ... LD_LIBRARY_PATH=path application ... everything works, but when I set the environment variable $LD_LIBRARY_PATH to path, application is not finding the library. Why? |
| 09:41.35 | jelly | doev: how do you set it? |
| 09:41.37 | doev | echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH returns the correct path |
| 09:41.40 | bolt | doev: export |
| 09:41.47 | metallic | Bluewolf, this does not settle your problem but... I uninstall rhythmbox everytime I see it. I do not like how it works, I use vlc instead |
| 09:41.50 | doev | with .profile |
| 09:41.53 | Stummi | yeah, you probably did not export it |
| 09:42.02 | jelly | doev: which command line, exactly? |
| 09:42.32 | doev | nano .profile .... source .profile ... echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH works. |
| 09:43.07 | bolt | doev: export LD_LIBRARY_PATH= |
| 09:43.23 | Bluewolf | metallic: The thing is, I have always used Rythmbox. On a fresh install the system was running fine, then after a couple updates its now hogging my memory after its been running for a while. |
| 09:43.31 | bolt | doev: (add the actual path) |
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| 09:43.52 | doev | thx, its working noew |
| 09:43.57 | doev | ... now |
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| 09:44.09 | Bluewolf | bolt: A bug perhaps, this started after updates. Maybe it's indexing your files? |
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| 09:44.52 | metallic | Bluewolf, I do not know why this is happening, you can try to ask directly on the developers' page, meanwhile use another media player ;) |
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| 09:46.06 | Bluewolf | metallic: You can't train old dogs new tricks ;-) |
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| 09:46.28 | bolt | Bluewolf: what? |
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| 09:47.41 | doev | I don't understand exactly why export is needed. Before I set VARIABLE=value in ~/.profiles and it works for echo $VARIABLE |
| 09:47.47 | Bluewolf | bolt: Something I did not type right in my previous reply? |
| 09:48.22 | bolt | Bluewolf: i don't believe something is indexing my files :) |
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| 09:49.41 | Bluewolf | bolt: Pardon me - "Maybe it's indexing your files?" I don't know what that means. |
| 09:50.03 | bolt | Bluewolf: it's a media player, isn't it? perhaps it's looking through all your files reading all the metadata |
| 09:50.18 | bolt | polling missing metadata online, etc |
| 09:50.42 | Bluewolf | bolt: Okay, why would it do that? |
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| 09:52.00 | bolt | Bluewolf: to allow for faster searching, sorting and prettier file lists with correctly named elements |
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| 09:52.52 | bolt | Bluewolf: to figure out track_16.mp3 actually contains the moonlight sonata, remastered version |
| 09:53.22 | Bluewolf | bolt: Then why start after updates, this problem began to "bug" me after updates |
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| 09:54.37 | bolt | Bluewolf: perhaps it previosly wasn't working? or the updates added a memory stored table for faster searching? i am just guessing here |
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| 09:54.44 | bolt | Bluewolf: ask the developers, their forums, or irc channel |
| 09:55.34 | Bluewolf | bolt: Yeah okay, thanks man :D |
| 09:55.34 | bolt | Bluewolf: I think people commonly have over 4 gigs of ram on their desktops today. the developers may think the same thing and assume it's okay to consume a lot of memory to improve people's experience with their software |
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| 09:56.47 | Bluewolf | bolt: Yeah I suppose. Problem solved, I will throw away this computer and get another :D |
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| 09:57.18 | bolt | ..or use an earlier version of the software, or disable the new features, or use something else... |
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| 09:58.05 | eptalon | hello there |
| 09:58.25 | eptalon | Anybody good with mdadm? (on sid)? |
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| 09:58.34 | bolt | !ask |
| 09:58.36 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 09:59.16 | Bluewolf | bolt: Thanks |
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| 09:59.18 | eptalon | I have a raid array which has the correct devices, but a wrong raid level (0), should be 5; in the devices the raid level is given correctly |
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| 09:59.42 | eptalon | so bid question how do I start that array? |
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| 10:00.03 | jelly | eptalon: best ask in #linux-raid channel |
| 10:00.11 | eptalon | ok. |
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| 10:06.47 | stmaher | hi guys.. |
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| 10:07.45 | stmaher | Ive never used parted before.. However im trying to create a second partition on a disk that already has / on sda1.. If I use start disk mark for sda2 at 0% does that overide sda1? |
| 10:08.58 | petn-randall | stmaher: You can't shrink your / while it's still online. parted will likely stop you from creating overlapping partitions. |
| 10:09.39 | stmaher | petn-randall thanks.. sda1 is live and running.. however there is space on the disk to create a second partition |
| 10:09.47 | stmaher | petn-randall I just dont want to mess with sda1 |
| 10:10.49 | petn-randall | stmaher: You can't, parted should stop you from doing that. That being said, if you play around with partitioning, always make sure you have backups. |
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| 10:11.15 | stmaher | petn-randall I have backups alright.. My problem is the machine is in another country :-( |
| 10:11.27 | stmaher | petn-randall with no one on site .. hence my looking for reassurance :-) |
| 10:11.34 | stmaher | petn-randall LOL |
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| 10:14.06 | petn-randall | stmaher: Then proceed. And verify before and after that the size of /dev/sda1 didn't change, as a sanity measure. |
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| 10:14.22 | stmaher | Ahh... I think I see the problem here.. |
| 10:14.24 | stmaher | The disk is 8tb |
| 10:14.45 | stmaher | I think debians installer might have used mbr instead of gpt :-( |
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| 10:14.50 | stmaher | does that mean reinstall? |
| 10:15.23 | petn-randall | stmaher: I don't think there are physical disk in that size yet. What kind of block device is that? iSCSI? |
| 10:15.26 | stmaher | (or whatever the opposite of gpt is) |
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| 10:15.51 | stmaher | petn-randall its presented as a single disk.. raid 5 perc |
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| 10:16.34 | stmaher | http://pastebin.com/fwh9rGJW |
| 10:16.49 | stmaher | im trying to create a 6TB partition |
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| 10:17.52 | petn-randall | stmaher: There will be a "protective" MBR, check with parted if there actually is a GPT, too. |
| 10:18.53 | stmaher | petn-randall Herm.. partition table says MSDOS :-( |
| 10:19.07 | stmaher | Im guessing thats the old skool non +3TB |
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| 10:20.30 | petn-randall | stmaher: What does 'gdisk -l' say? |
| 10:21.16 | stmaher | petn-randall thanks for the help.. Dont have gdisk nor is it apt-getabble |
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| 10:21.49 | petn-randall | stmaher: No full internet connectivity? |
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| 10:22.26 | stmaher | petn-randall No.. just not in my repo.. apt-cache search doesnt show it either one sec |
| 10:22.35 | deranged_user | this is probably the wrong place to ask this |
| 10:22.47 | topi` | I just created a small daemon (pure python) and a .deb package out of it - including debian/myproject.init which I modified to suit me |
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| 10:23.09 | topi` | however, if I install that .deb on a system, it'll try to launch the daemon at configure time, and gets stuck there. Any ideas how to avoid this behaviour? |
| 10:23.27 | topi` | I think the daemon should only be started at system startup - and only when all network interfaces are up |
| 10:23.29 | deranged_user | but, is it safe to make /all/ server software only listen on ipv4? I mean is the ::ffff mechanism employed at a lower level than applciation |
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| 10:23.43 | deranged_user | or do applications themself have to do that |
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| 10:24.36 | stmaher | petn-randall drat.. cant do gdisk.. its squeeze.. |
| 10:24.48 | stmaher | petn-randall tried to do a dpkg install of the wheezy package.. no joy :-( |
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| 10:25.45 | heurist | deranged_user: you can turn IPv6 off completely if you want. https://wiki.debian.org/DebianIPv6#How_to_turn_off_IPv6 |
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| 10:26.17 | petn-randall | stmaher: I'm not even sure if squeeze could do GPT, too far back since I used it the last time. |
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| 10:26.35 | deranged_user | I don't want to |
| 10:26.40 | deranged_user | I want to turn off ipv4 |
| 10:26.41 | deranged_user | :l |
| 10:26.59 | deranged_user | I was wondering if the ::ffff magic is done at OS level or if applications have to support it |
| 10:27.02 | stmaher | petn-randall Thanks for the info.. Im guessing with an MSDOS partition table im screwed anyway.. as its for the entire disk not just the partition.. |
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| 10:27.31 | stmaher | petn-randall in the end I need a 6TB mountable drive.. which I dont think is going to happen considering its MSDOS partition table |
| 10:27.37 | stmaher | petn-randall can you confirm that? |
| 10:27.49 | petn-randall | stmaher: Yeah. squeeze is only getting limited security support by now, so consider upgrading to wheezy. |
| 10:28.20 | heurist | ,v gdisk |
| 10:28.22 | judd | Package: gdisk on i386 -- squeeze-backports: 0.8.1-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 0.8.5-1; jessie: 0.8.10-1; sid: 0.8.10-1 |
| 10:28.35 | petn-randall | stmaher: Yeah, you can't do that without taking the system offline. |
| 10:28.58 | stmaher | Thanks guys.. |
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| 10:29.31 | stmaher | My manager is going to be pissed.. LOL.. and it wasnt my fault.. YAY! |
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| 10:30.26 | hid3 | Hello everyone. A question not quite related to Debian directly but still it runs on Debian :) Any ideas if the 'mpc' player supports audio streams from internet? I'd like to listen to an internet radio... |
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| 10:32.11 | petn-randall | stmaher: gdisk is available from squeeze-backports, install that. |
| 10:32.41 | petn-randall | stmaher: You can still add the 6 TB as a separate disk, slap a GPT on there and use that. |
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| 10:32.49 | ChrisH | hid3: dunno, but mplayer can to that |
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| 10:54.49 | NRoach44 | Quick question, how can I get dpkg-buildpacjage using dh-* to run autoreconf before the build? |
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| 10:56.28 | Brigo | NRoach44, may be you should ask in debian-mentors |
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| 10:58.12 | NRoach44 | Brigo: cheers |
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| 10:58.34 | Brigo | NRoach44, :) |
| 10:59.13 | NRoach44 | Brigo: uh, that room is seemingly invite only |
| 10:59.42 | Brigo | NRoach44, oh, i forgot to mention: in oftc irc network |
| 10:59.51 | NRoach44 | ah |
| 11:00.10 | NRoach44 | i figured the issue out now though, thanks anyway |
| 11:00.21 | Brigo | NRoach44, np :) |
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| 11:06.40 | stmaher | petn-randall thanks for all the help.. Looks like a reinstall is in order |
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| 11:13.50 | bal | Anyone knows if there is a way to block a specific zip file with spamassasin |
| 11:14.24 | heurist | dpkg: tell bal -about crosspost |
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| 11:15.25 | bal | heurist: True. :) |
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| 11:59.33 | __jacks | there was a tool i used a while ago but i've forgotten the name of it, it could create ftp servers/ web servers on the fly kinda like netcat anyone know what it's called? |
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| 12:00.02 | p0g0 | like honeypot stuff? |
| 12:00.15 | __jacks | well not really, it's more useful for sysadmins etc |
| 12:00.23 | p0g0 | dunno then |
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| 12:03.25 | busch | Will systemd be the default in Jessie? |
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| 12:03.47 | heurist | busch: yes, it will be the default. you will have other choices if you want. |
| 12:04.05 | __jacks | ahh.. it's called 'swiss file knife'.. very cool |
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| 12:04.38 | busch | heurist: I dont like that decision. WIll there be an easy way to get around systemd while upgrading from wheezy? |
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| 12:07.57 | petn-randall | stmaher: If you do, consider using LVM. You could then live migrate in a similar situation like this. |
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| 12:08.58 | heurist | busch: that is a question for the jessie guys, you can find them in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
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| 12:45.49 | Laurenceb | hi |
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| 12:51.16 | jholden | kt |
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| 12:52.41 | khurram | hi all |
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| 12:53.31 | khurram | Can some one please help me how can i change the apt-get sources for installing any thing ... it always goto some ftp.blabla.in which is very slow mirror i want to get some other. please help |
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| 12:54.57 | Avic | hello |
| 12:55.10 | Avic | should i use Tightvnc or Remmina? |
| 12:55.23 | Avic | in mate linux |
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| 12:56.16 | borg1 | that is pretty individual. No right or wrong. Try and see which one that works for you |
| 12:56.37 | nikolaii | >khurram you can try this list: https://www.debian.org/mirror/list |
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| 13:24.46 | gspr | Hi. I'm not a package maintainer. However, I've noticed (as I'm sure many others have) that a certain popular package X bundles some code from a different upstream Y. As I understand it, this is discouraged for Debian libraries. Y is *not* packaged in Debian, so I suppose filing a bug against X is not constructive? I do, however, maintain my own packaged version of Y for personal use, which, after some cleanup might be a part of Debian. |
| 13:25.04 | gspr | Do I file a bug against X, or begin by introducing a package for Y? If the latter, how? :) |
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| 13:26.21 | jelly | gspr: bundled libraries are highly discouraged but detaching them sometimes creates a lot of extra work |
| 13:26.24 | gspr | (In fact, the situation is: X bundles Y. Y bundles Z1. Z1 is in reality deprecated and replaced by Z2, which *is* in Debian. My Y package patches upstream to use Z2 instead of the bundled Z1) |
| 13:26.52 | gspr | jelly: Right, I know. Should I into how much work it would take to detach Y from X then? |
| 13:27.14 | jelly | gspr: does anything else use Y (and why are you anonymizing anyway)? |
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| 13:27.42 | bolt | sneaky packages |
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| 13:27.58 | gspr | jelly: No idea if anything else in Debian uses a bundled version of Y. I personally have some unpublished code which does use Y (which is why I packaged it in the first place) |
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| 13:28.23 | gspr | jelly: Anonomizing just so people don't think I'm asking a highly specific question :) X = python-scipy. Y's upstream name is l-bfsg-b |
| 13:28.35 | jelly | gspr: I mean, does anything else use Y at all |
| 13:29.08 | gspr | jelly: And Z1 = linpack, Z2 = lapack, if it matters |
| 13:29.29 | gspr | jelly: I'm sure⦠it's an optimization library that has been around for more than a decade |
| 13:29.57 | jelly | then it makes sense splitting L-BFGS-B out |
| 13:29.57 | gspr | jelly: Y = http://users.eecs.northwestern.edu/~nocedal/lbfgsb.html |
| 13:30.07 | jelly | (what a horrible name ;-) |
| 13:30.13 | gspr | Hehe |
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| 13:30.22 | gspr | Agreed! |
| 13:30.31 | gspr | liblbfgsb rolls of the tongue |
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| 13:30.54 | jelly | gspr: best to contact python-modules team |
| 13:31.03 | gspr | OK, will do. |
| 13:31.23 | jelly | https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/PythonModulesTeam |
| 13:31.33 | gspr | So just to be clear, you think I should talk to python-modules about splitting out *before* I make an effort to provide a packaged version of Y? |
| 13:32.06 | gspr | (I have one lying around, but I would need some feedback from seasoned people as to whether I've done things correctly... My packages are usually only used by me, and I'm not critical enough of my own work :) ) |
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| 13:33.10 | jelly | gspr: I'm sure if you tell them you've done this work already for private use, and are willing to upload and get it sponsored, they'll be more receptive of changes in stuff that's packaged already |
| 13:33.26 | gspr | jelly: Alrighty |
| 13:33.31 | gspr | Thanks, you've been most helpeful :) |
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| 13:34.47 | jelly | gspr: I've no idea if there are any non-technical (political) mines you'll be stepping on, but code deduplication is something that Debian likes to do very much |
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| 13:35.11 | gspr | jelly: That's my understanding as well. I'll watch out for mines, though. |
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| 13:43.56 | r3n1c0n | can some one help me with this error libc6 (>=2.15) |
| 13:44.20 | r3n1c0n | i want to install dolphin (gamecube emulator) but then i get this error |
| 13:44.27 | jelly | gspr: fwiw, there's also a #debian-python channel over on irc.oftc.net (= irc.debian.org) |
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| 13:44.49 | gspr | jelly: Ah, thanks. I'll have a chat with them. |
| 13:45.01 | jelly | r3n1c0n: the package you're trying to install is not compatible with Debian 7. |
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| 13:45.17 | heurist | r3n1c0n: wheezy has libc6 2.13 you can not use that program |
| 13:45.51 | jelly | r3n1c0n: you can either try to build binaries from source yourself, or use a different, compatible OS |
| 13:45.59 | brentaarnold | Is there a way to enable window snapping in Debian 7.7? |
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| 13:46.38 | r3n1c0n | hm must have gamecube emulator |
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| 13:47.02 | SynrGy | r3n1c0n: i've built dolphin from source successfully in the past. but then again, i've done it on jessie or sid. |
| 13:47.17 | Koodari | Hi! I decided to update my nvidia drivers which I had installed through apt. Well while doing the updating I halfway accidentally removed some xorg components. This led to situation I have now: Gnome is not booting and best I have got is GUI saying something like "Oops! Something went wrong [Log Out]". I have reinstalled every package I had before I started updating the driver and yet it wont work. Please |
| 13:47.19 | SynrGy | and it was a bit painful to discover and manually install all the -dev pkgs needed for it |
| 13:47.19 | Koodari | help me or I need to reinstall my OS tho I rather not. |
| 13:47.51 | SynrGy | Koodari: which release of Debian? |
| 13:47.56 | Koodari | Jessie |
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| 13:48.19 | SynrGy | please take it to #debian-next @ irc.oftc.net (note, not this network) and i (and others there) would be happy to help there |
| 13:48.35 | Koodari | Thanks! |
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| 13:53.56 | SynrGy | Koodari: problems getting to the channel? |
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| 13:56.00 | Koodari | SynrGy nope, just takes time to rewrite all that again (I'm in tty, so copy-paste not possible ;)) |
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| 14:00.04 | SPF | how do I change unconfined_u to system_u for ~/.ssh ? |
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| 14:02.11 | SPF | nvm, found it |
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| 14:04.36 | xreal | Since there's no OverlayFS-support in Debian kernel, there are two options only: a) patch Debian kernel and set it on hold or b) use an Ubuntu kernel. Am I right? |
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| 14:07.20 | towo` | xreal, you could use aufs instead of overlay-fs |
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| 14:13.32 | jm | are there plans to build an lxpanel-0.7.2 package soon? lxpanel has been severely broken in jessie and sid for over a month now |
| 14:14.10 | heurist | jm: questions about jessie are better addressed to #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
| 14:14.23 | jm | I see |
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| 14:18.18 | abrotman | jm: Did you look in the BTS as to why it might not be matching upstream? |
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| 14:26.56 | Matt3o12 | Hey, I want to install Apache 2.4 on my debian server (Iâm quite new to Debian). I know that I need to install a testing package but how secure is it? Iâve read that you should never install any testing packages on servers but I need Apache 2.4 because of the proxy_wstunnel module. What should I do? Iâm running debian wheezy. |
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| 14:28.14 | knosys | Hello, im having problems installing nvidia propietary drivers, do someone want to help me please? |
| 14:28.57 | heurist | !details |
| 14:29.01 | dpkg | If you want help on a topic, you HAVE to say more than "it doesn't work, help!" or else you'll get no help whatsoever. Give as many details as you can or else no one can give any suggestions. For most questions, you should at least give your arch (amd64 for most people), your Debian <version>, and your kernel version. Give exact error messages where applicable. |
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| 14:29.52 | user3 | knosys what's wrong specifically |
| 14:30.25 | knosys | I have a debian wheezy 7.7 fresh install, i choosed KDE Desktop enviroment. All i have done its adding the backdoor repository and installing linux headers, and then the nvidia kms |
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| 14:30.41 | abrotman | Matt3o12: it's not really secure at all .. there's not really any security support for Jessie. |
| 14:30.47 | abrotman | knosys: backdoor repo? |
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| 14:30.56 | knosys | but when I reboot the machine, Xsessions wont start with error message "There is no screens"? something like that |
| 14:31.05 | abrotman | oh, backport |
| 14:31.11 | knosys | sorry, backport |
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| 14:31.32 | Matt3o12 | @abrotman What should I do then? I really need apache 2.4 |
| 14:31.40 | user3 | are you sure your nvidia is supported? |
| 14:31.42 | abrotman | knosys: you'll want to tell us which card you have, and which driver version you installed |
| 14:31.49 | knosys | user3: yes i used with gnome and xfce |
| 14:32.00 | abrotman | Matt3o12: you can compile it from upstream, use the packages, or find another method to do what you want |
| 14:32.01 | knosys | well, all debian's and also ubuntu |
| 14:32.07 | abrotman | knosys: no, it's one or the other.. |
| 14:32.09 | abrotman | which is it? |
| 14:32.10 | knosys | nvidia G210 GFORCE |
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| 14:32.32 | user3 | does your new install support xfce? |
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| 14:32.38 | knosys | abrotman: i mean i also installed nvidia propietary drivers on others debian systems, and ubuntu, so CArd its supported |
| 14:32.40 | knosys | -.- |
| 14:32.41 | abrotman | user3: how is that related? |
| 14:32.59 | abrotman | knosys: okay, so which version of the drivers did you attempt? |
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| 14:33.15 | Matt3o12 | @abrotman What would you do? When I compile it myself, I will also need to recompile it every time a secuitiy fix is release, right? |
| 14:33.32 | knosys | Ill have to search for logs , because i didnt specified any versionm |
| 14:33.34 | knosys | version |
| 14:33.40 | abrotman | Matt3o12: yes, that's correct |
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| 14:34.04 | user3 | ifyou you can't run xgce with glsl effects you'll know its your new install or drivers |
| 14:34.05 | abrotman | Matt3o12: you can use stow or checkinstall to make it a bit easier to manage |
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| 14:34.30 | user3 | xfce |
| 14:34.31 | abrotman | user3: that's silly |
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| 14:35.21 | Matt3o12 | @abrotman then, what would you do? Iâm quite sure Iâm not the only to need apache 2.4. I already was a pain to install python 3.3 from source and I didnât like it at all. |
| 14:35.52 | abrotman | Matt3o12: you hopefully didn't replace "/usr/bin/python" ? |
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| 14:36.31 | Matt3o12 | No, I didnât but python wasnât installed anyways. |
| 14:36.47 | Matt3o12 | I installed python 2.7 right away when I got the box.. |
| 14:37.10 | Matt3o12 | But what should I do about apache 2.4 |
| 14:37.16 | abrotman | Matt3o12: I'd probably compile it from source and use checkinstall, subscribe to their release list, and patch as needed |
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| 14:39.59 | knosys | abrotman: is there any way to find the version that the system tried to install? |
| 14:40.03 | knosys | i dont find logs |
| 14:40.10 | Matt3o12 | Yeah, that no problem for python I guess (because I work with pyhton every day and I know when a new pyhton version is released). Apache, on the other hand, is a little bit more complicated because I barely work with it and when I do, I just trust my package manager to always keep me up-to-date with the new versions when I run the update every week (or as soon as I read about a security fix). |
| 14:40.24 | abrotman | knosys: did you read the wiki about how to install Nvidia drivers? |
| 14:40.48 | knosys | yes |
| 14:40.52 | Matt3o12 | is there no way to get apache 2.4 with the package manager and stay up-to-date? |
| 14:40.55 | knosys | thats how i did, in the debian site |
| 14:41.08 | abrotman | Matt3o12: http://marc.info/?l=apache-httpd-announce |
| 14:41.19 | abrotman | knosys: dpkg -l | grep -i nvidia |
| 14:41.27 | knosys | there you have to edit the sources.list for backports repository, then install linux headers, then install nvidia-kernel-dkms |
| 14:41.37 | knosys | thats what i did |
| 14:41.54 | abrotman | Matt3o12: You could try pinning, but that's iffy, and again, it's not really security supported, it will get updates, but might be a couple of weeks after the upstream release |
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| 14:42.35 | Matt3o12 | and what about the unstable release? It gets update frequently, doesnât it? And how stable is it really for apache |
| 14:42.41 | knosys | 319.82 |
| 14:43.08 | Matt3o12 | And I canât check the list frequently because Iâm not a sys-admin. Iâm just a student who needs to run 2 servers. |
| 14:43.09 | knosys | but there is no driver anymore, i had to uninstall it and purge |
| 14:43.11 | SynrGy | it does, and it isn't. |
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| 14:43.26 | heurist | Matt3o12: can it not be backported? |
| 14:43.29 | heurist | ,checkbackport apache2 |
| 14:43.30 | judd | Backporting package apache2 in sidâwheezy/i386: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: libaprutil1-dev (>= 1.5.0), libapr1-dev (>= 1.5.0). |
| 14:43.32 | knosys | there is several files (i guess they are old dependences) |
| 14:43.41 | SynrGy | heurist: no. we've answered this before, too. |
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| 14:43.58 | heurist | SynrGy: ok, was not paying attention. sorry (: |
| 14:44.53 | SynrGy | heurist: not today. but within the past weeks |
| 14:44.54 | abrotman | Matt3o12: sure, but again, it's the same issue, it may or may not get a security update in a timely fashion. If you want to get closer to upstream, you sohuld really subscribe to the announcement mailing list. If you see something concerning, work to get it patched. |
| 14:44.59 | abrotman | SynrGy: like, the last year :) |
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| 14:45.16 | SynrGy | abrotman: repeatedly :) |
| 14:45.28 | abrotman | ad naseum .. |
| 14:45.37 | abrotman | nauseum even |
| 14:45.42 | abrotman | i give up |
| 14:45.46 | knosys | when i --purge remove nvidia-settings , this errors apeear : http://paste.ubuntu.com/8656861/ |
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| 14:46.07 | abrotman | knosys: not important at the moment |
| 14:46.08 | heurist | SynrGy: yeah, a lot of people getting impatient for new versions. libc6 too, all the time. about time to get jessie going (: |
| 14:46.15 | Matt3o12 | heurist backports is probably what Iâm looking for.Thankâs for the help, you too abrotman |
| 14:46.18 | knosys | i see |
| 14:46.27 | knosys | what can i do to help? |
| 14:46.28 | abrotman | Matt3o12: there is no backport .. heurist isn't helping you |
| 14:46.36 | Matt3o12 | Oh... |
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| 14:48.08 | SynrGy | Matt3o12: summary: debian stable release is what you want (eventually) and stable+backports *would* be a solution here but isn't for this specific case. you can't get there from here. you could run testing on a server, but that has risks. or you could run a different distribution. or you could build everything you need on your own from source (not a serious suggestion! probably not worth it.) |
| 14:48.46 | SynrGy | Matt3o12: can you make do without apache 2.4 between now and when jessie releases? how important is this thing you mentioned earlier to your immediate needs? |
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| 14:49.48 | Matt3o12 | @SynrGy The project is due monday⦠|
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| 14:50.18 | SynrGy | Matt3o12: that is, what is proxy_wstunnel module, and are the alternatives? |
| 14:50.28 | SynrGy | there* |
| 14:50.33 | knosys | this is command you asked me, to look what packages ive got from nvidia http://paste.ubuntu.com/8656928/ |
| 14:50.52 | abrotman | knosys: what is 'uname -a' ? |
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| 14:51.05 | socomm | The project is due monday. :^) |
| 14:51.08 | socomm | That made me laugh. |
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| 14:51.16 | SynrGy | Matt3o12: hmm. can you say "overly constrained problem"? :/ |
| 14:51.17 | knosys | Linux debpc 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.63-2 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 14:51.28 | Akuw | hi |
| 14:51.38 | Matt3o12 | the server needs WebSockets and as far as I know the only way to get websockets working behinde apache is by installing apache 2.4 |
| 14:51.52 | SynrGy | Matt3o12: does it have to be apache? |
| 14:52.05 | knosys | abrotman: Linux debpc 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.63-2 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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| 14:52.29 | SynrGy | ,v nginx |
| 14:52.30 | judd | Package: nginx on i386 -- squeeze-security: 0.7.67-3+squeeze3; squeeze: 0.7.67-3+squeeze3; squeeze-security-lts: 0.7.67-3+squeeze4; squeeze-backports: 1.2.1-2.2~bpo60+2; wheezy-security: 1.2.1-2.2+wheezy3; wheezy: 1.2.1-2.2+wheezy3; wheezy-backports: 1.6.0-1~bpo70+1; wheezy-backports: 1.6.2-1~bpo70+1; wheezy-backports: 1.6.2-2~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.6.2-2; sid: 1.6.2-4 |
| 14:52.32 | Akuw | what is there to control printers |
| 14:52.38 | Matt3o12 | Iâm afraid yes, as far as Iâm know, python doesnât get along with nginx very well... |
| 14:52.41 | Akuw | number of pages printed, etc |
| 14:52.46 | SynrGy | Matt3o12: http://nginx.com/blog/websocket-nginx/ |
| 14:52.53 | SynrGy | Matt3o12: and nginx has backports |
| 14:53.00 | SynrGy | ah |
| 14:53.12 | SynrGy | well. sucks to be you. there are web servers other than nginx ... :) |
| 14:53.33 | SynrGy | Matt3o12: what do you mean by "doesn't get along with nginx very well"? |
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| 14:53.34 | abrotman | runs away |
| 14:53.40 | Matt3o12 | lighttpd but that isnât an option either |
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| 14:54.18 | socomm | Matt3o12: there are more webservers than that |
| 14:54.23 | SynrGy | Matt3o12: and is your info about that alleged issue current? |
| 14:54.59 | socomm | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_server_software |
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| 14:55.42 | socomm | Anyone here use the cherokee web server? |
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| 14:55.55 | Matt3o12 | I once wanted to serve my application on nignx becuase it is lighter but I was told to use apache and nginx as a load balancer⦠|
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| 14:56.26 | socomm | Matt3o12: Some applications don't work very well on nginx |
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| 14:57.07 | Matt3o12 | And I donât know what you mean by âthe alleged issueâ. @socomm Do you know any webservers that support mod wsgi (not mod_python) and can have a websockets proxy? |
| 14:57.15 | Avic | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:57.18 | SynrGy | Matt3o12: i doubt if we can do a fair assessment of what solutions exist in debian for your particular use case without all of the details about this project. and i'm not sure we have the time to assess the whole thing if it's moderately complex ... |
| 14:57.21 | Akuw | what is there to control printers, number of pages printed, etc |
| 14:57.33 | SynrGy | Matt3o12: alleged because you gave no references. not because i don't believe you :) |
| 14:57.46 | SynrGy | Matt3o12: but there is no issue to discuss if we don't know specifics. |
| 14:57.49 | socomm | Avic: Just about any VNC server will work - VNC is a standard protocol. |
| 14:58.43 | SynrGy | Matt3o12: in short, if your project says "it must be on debian stable" and "it must use apache 2.4", the problem is overly constrained. the only way forward is lifting a constraint ... |
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| 14:59.08 | Avic | i'm looking for the vnc viewer for windows to use with tighvncserver installed in debian |
| 14:59.14 | SynrGy | Matt3o12: one would be to not use debian. but then that takes the discussion off this channel. so in terms of what we can help you with here ... logically, exploring other web servers is our only option. |
| 14:59.50 | SynrGy | (assuming we've ruled out "compile everything from source" as terrific waste of resources) |
| 14:59.54 | SynrGy | as a* |
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| 15:00.11 | Avic | i tryed the tighvnc java, but gives theerros : unsuported protocol version: ssh-2.0 |
| 15:00.31 | netbook | guyz.. whats a good lightweight desktop environment other than xfce? |
| 15:00.34 | socomm | Avic: https://www.realvnc.com/download/viewer/ |
| 15:00.37 | SynrGy | netbook: lxde |
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| 15:00.51 | SynrGy | netbook: what's 'lightweight'? the term is relative |
| 15:01.00 | Avic | mate? |
| 15:01.04 | socomm | Avic: http://www.uvnc.com/ |
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| 15:01.12 | SynrGy | netbook: what specific platform? |
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| 15:01.23 | socomm | Avic: either of the ones linked will work jsut fine |
| 15:01.25 | dondelelcaro | netbook: the lightest weight DE is no DE at all. |
| 15:01.34 | dondelelcaro | netbook: you can just use a window manager |
| 15:01.49 | Avic | thanks :-) |
| 15:01.50 | Matt3o12 | Ok, my project needs a stable release which can run a webserver that supports python with mod_wsgi (not mod_python) and mod_wsproxy (all the HTTP traffic needs to go through port 80). I donât mind running a particular software that is not considered a âstableâ as long as it gets security fixes in a resonable timeframe⦠But everything else should be considered stable... |
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| 15:02.42 | SynrGy | Matt3o12: see also https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-deploy-python-wsgi-applications-using-uwsgi-web-server-with-nginx |
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| 15:02.45 | socomm | netbook: LXDE, IceWM |
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| 15:03.05 | SynrGy | Matt3o12: coupled with the earlier reference to nginx as a websockets proxy, i think you're all set to deploy on nginx |
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| 15:03.46 | mtn | Akuw: are you using a gui or command line to print? |
| 15:04.28 | socomm | Matt3o12: If debian doesn't fit your criteria, you can always use another distro. |
| 15:04.31 | SynrGy | Matt3o12: slight wrinkle ... |
| 15:04.36 | SynrGy | ,v nodejs |
| 15:04.38 | judd | Package: nodejs on i386 -- wheezy-backports: 0.10.29~dfsg-1~bpo70+1; sid: 0.10.29~dfsg-1; jessie: 0.10.29~dfsg-1 |
| 15:04.39 | SynrGy | ,v npm |
| 15:04.40 | judd | Package: npm on i386 -- sid: 1.4.21+ds-2; jessie: 1.4.21+ds-2 |
| 15:04.43 | barfod | is there an offical guide or recommended guide for making a gcc + glibc cross compiler on debian? something with up to date current steps, links to binutils / glibc / gcc versions |
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| 15:04.54 | SynrGy | Matt3o12: no npm in debian. the websockets tutorial requires it. |
| 15:04.55 | Matt3o12 | I just like to learn new things and I though debian is very interesting :) |
| 15:05.01 | dondelelcaro | Merixer: 1) apache supports mod_wsgi for 2) you'll have to backport websockify, or use uwsgi |
| 15:05.05 | SynrGy | Matt3o12: not in stable, anyway. and no backport of that either |
| 15:05.08 | Akuw | mtn: will be used for all users in the network with gnome, kde, etc |
| 15:05.08 | dondelelcaro | s/Merixer/Matt3o12/ |
| 15:05.31 | dondelelcaro | barfod: what are you cross compiling for? |
| 15:05.32 | barfod | most of the guides i come across seem to have been done from fedora or mac OSX |
| 15:05.42 | Akuw | mtn: the requeriment is to control who print what and how many pages |
| 15:05.45 | mtn | Akuw: in gnome or kde, the print window comes up when printing and has control there for number of copies, etc. |
| 15:06.05 | Akuw | i need to control from a central point |
| 15:06.11 | dondelelcaro | barfod: lots of embedded targets already have a set of packages that you can install, for example. |
| 15:06.12 | Akuw | so admin can have statistics |
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| 15:07.02 | mtn | Akuw: sounds like you left out most of what you needed when you asked your question ;) maybe reask your question with all of the needed criteria included. |
| 15:07.02 | barfod | dondelelcaro: i am not sure, it is part of a long ongoing study i am doing on making systems from scratch / learning C / learning operatng system design. thing is though, is i do it all from debian, so i thought it prudent to at least come and ask around real quickly |
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| 15:07.11 | Matt3o12 | @SynrGy what do I need node.js for? The websockets are written in python. |
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| 15:07.59 | barfod | out of everything, building cross compilers and managing packages built with them has been the most buggy part of my process |
| 15:08.09 | SynrGy | Matt3o12: then you don't need it. the tutorial showed how to use 'ws' written in nodejs as an example. |
| 15:08.36 | Matt3o12 | Yeah. But I used pythonâs brand new asyncio API :) |
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| 15:08.45 | Akuw | mtn: i need a software to control all printing in a network, so i can monitor how many pages a user print |
| 15:08.52 | Akuw | what documents print, etc |
| 15:09.27 | knosys | abrotman: maybe its becase i didnt created the xorg configuration file? thats why it doesnt find the screen? |
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| 15:10.24 | Matt3o12 | Ok Iâll give Nginx a shot and if that doesnât work Iâll try uwsgi ⦠Thank you all for your help :) |
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| 15:15.23 | knosys | I will reboot to check if its working now |
| 15:15.28 | knosys | wish me luck :P |
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| 15:17.46 | knosys | yes it worked. It was all because i didnt created /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/*.conf file |
| 15:18.01 | knosys | thanks anyway, its all good now |
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| 15:29.23 | femichel_ | hello, I have this problem "Failed to start Remount Root and Kernel File System" after upgrade on debian testing |
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| 15:30.11 | dondelelcaro | femichel_: what happens after that? |
| 15:30.21 | dondelelcaro | femichel_: do you get a shell? |
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| 15:30.57 | femichel_ | yes, emergency mode |
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| 15:32.11 | femichel_ | dondelelcaro: yes, emergency mode |
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| 15:34.33 | dondelelcaro | femichel_: ok. and I'm assuming that you've got systemd installed? |
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| 15:35.13 | femichel_ | dondelelcaro: yes |
| 15:35.23 | dondelelcaro | femichel_: most likely your problem is that you have a bad line (or set of lines) in /etc/fstab |
| 15:35.44 | dondelelcaro | femichel_: what do you have listed in /etc/fstab? Use a paste site to provide it |
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| 15:39.29 | jelly | ,v mysql-server-5.5 |
| 15:39.30 | judd | Package: mysql-server-5.5 on i386 -- wheezy: 5.5.38-0+wheezy1; sid: 5.5.39-1; jessie: 5.5.39-1; wheezy-security: 5.5.40-0+wheezy1 |
| 15:39.36 | femichel_ | dondelelcaro: I'm not near my desktop, I connect later. thank you very much! |
| 15:39.41 | dondelelcaro | femichel_: ok. |
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| 15:39.50 | femichel_ | dondelelcaro: Or you'll have any reference |
| 15:39.54 | dondelelcaro | femichel_: you might also want to see http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Debugging/ for the future |
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| 15:40.04 | dondelelcaro | femichel_: and https://wiki.debian.org/systemd#Debugging |
| 15:40.09 | jelly | blaubarschbube: run apt-cache policy mysql-server-5.5, and make sure you have security.debian.org repo enabled |
| 15:40.21 | blaubarschbube | wheezy-security.. i see |
| 15:40.30 | blaubarschbube | yes, i have |
| 15:40.31 | blaubarschbube | thx |
| 15:40.36 | jelly | !tell blaubarschbube about wheezy sources.list |
| 15:41.04 | jelly | blaubarschbube: some of the generated web pages lag behind actual repo content |
| 15:42.05 | dondelelcaro | dpkg: systemd debugging is <reply> If you have a problem with systemd, see https://wiki.debian.org/systemd#Debugging and http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/Debugging/ for more information on how to debug the issue. If it's a boot problem, start by using systemd.unit=rescue.target systemd.log_target=kmsg systemd.log_level=debug on the kernel command line to get more information |
| 15:42.06 | dpkg | okay, dondelelcaro |
| 15:42.11 | blaubarschbube | i just didnt recognize that in sources.list wheezy-security is just not wheezy |
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| 15:43.15 | jelly | blaubarschbube: did you get the private message from dpkg bot |
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| 15:43.48 | netbook | how does one change the default widow manager? |
| 15:44.05 | blaubarschbube | jelly, yes i did |
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| 15:47.20 | randomuser | hello, I have a relatively large number of remote systems, and I'm looking for a way for them to provide information about themselves to a central location. In particular, I want to provide them with a managed repo, and be able to verify that they installed the provided packages. |
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| 15:47.59 | dondelelcaro | randomuser: it sounds like you're looking for something like puppet or chef |
| 15:48.01 | randomuser | simpler is better, playing catchup with a deadline :( |
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| 15:48.11 | Avic | can't connect to tightvncserver with ultravnc: invalid protocol |
| 15:48.32 | randomuser | dondelelcaro, I like puppet. unfortunately, I think it's too complex to 'sell' upstairs in the timeframe I have |
| 15:48.38 | Avic | connection failed - invalid protocol |
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| 15:51.01 | SynrGy | randomuser: maybe clusterssh would fit this? |
| 15:51.15 | SynrGy | i mean the tight timeframe and solving this one problem |
| 15:51.20 | randomuser | reads about clusterssh |
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| 15:52.42 | randomuser | SynrGy, I've played with ansible (and the ssh backend that it drives whose name I can't recall) - in this case, the clients are in foreign networks and I can't expect or really even ask for a route for ssh traffic |
| 15:52.46 | randomuser | the clients have to pull |
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| 15:53.39 | SynrGy | i see |
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| 15:54.35 | randomuser | SynrGy, or POST, as the case may be |
| 15:54.48 | jhutchins_wk | Kernel modules have become so automated I don't remember how to load them manually. Didn't it use to be just name the module in modprobe.conf? |
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| 15:56.05 | SynrGy | randomuser: configure syslog to log remotely and grep those logs at the remote location for successful installs of the packages? |
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| 15:56.41 | SynrGy | randomuser: it's not a comprehensive solution, but again, should be doable in the short timeline |
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| 15:58.53 | randomuser | SynrGy, that's an interesting idea, actually |
| 15:59.00 | SynrGy | randomuser: see rsyslog.conf man page, "remote machine" section |
| 15:59.01 | randomuser | goes to read about syslog auth/access control |
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| 16:01.32 | randomuser | SynrGy, there has to be something; whatever listener the central server uses will have to have a public-facing connection for the clients to talk to |
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| 16:01.46 | randomuser | sorry to keep appending details |
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| 16:03.25 | SynrGy | randomuser: from what little i've read, RELP + some TLS wrapper would be the way to go, then |
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| 16:03.49 | SynrGy | randomuser: i.e. this is from *casual* familiarity with the topic, not practical experience |
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| 16:04.19 | SynrGy | randomuser: ref. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reliable_Event_Logging_Protocol "The current version of RELP does not specify native TLS support. However, practical deployments use wrappers around the RELP session in order to provide that functionality." |
| 16:04.32 | randomuser | SynrGy, hey, I'm reading the same while researching here; reinforcement helps :) |
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| 16:04.36 | SynrGy | randomuser: :) |
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| 16:07.58 | komanda | Can someone send me a private mesage, testing out new irc client <3 |
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| 16:08.45 | SynrGy | randomuser: humm. dated info? this claims native support: http://www.rsyslog.com/doc/rsyslog_tls.html |
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| 16:09.00 | SynrGy | randomuser: dating back 6 years ... |
| 16:09.21 | randomuser | SynrGy, I'm reading through it right now :) I can't imagine that something like TLS would be *removed* from rsyslog |
| 16:09.35 | SynrGy | oh, that's not relp though, but udp? |
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| 16:10.16 | SynrGy | randomuser: hint. read down further in the article for "Limitations" (or just search for RELP :) |
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| 16:12.49 | SynrGy | randomuser: i guess we shouldn't rule out UDP over TLS ... if it's encapsulated in a secure tcp stream, you get your reliability, and security at the same time ... |
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| 16:13.13 | sarlalian | randomuser: You could do a one time setup for the servers and have them pull down from a git/mercurial repo, either a chef solo setup or ansible local or some such |
| 16:13.28 | sarlalian | as long as they could pull from said repo, they would be fine |
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| 16:27.50 | brentaarnold | Has anyone gotten livestreamer working with Debian 7.7? |
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| 16:40.49 | Avic | please |
| 16:40.58 | Avic | i need help with this |
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| 16:41.19 | xreal | towo`: is it activated in stable Wheezy kernel or is a modul or do I need to compile a new kernel on my own? |
| 16:41.56 | towo` | xreal, i do not use wheezy |
| 16:42.10 | towo` | xreal, find it out yourself with modinfo aufs |
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| 16:42.31 | xreal | towo`: I'm on squeeze atm... I want to upgrade to Wheezy. |
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| 16:44.20 | towo` | xreal, wheezy has aufs as module |
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| 16:45.09 | xreal | towo`: I see. Let's try |
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| 16:59.12 | tr0n1c | hello, I have a binary in /usr/local/bin (it's in the $PATH), auto-complete actually finds it, but when I execute it it says: /usr/bin/<executable>: No such file or directory. Why does this happen? |
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| 16:59.59 | nomike | hi |
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| 17:01.13 | arcke_ | tr0n1c: what does file /usr/bin/<executable> say? |
| 17:01.28 | nomike | On my server "/run" is missing. I have compared it to a VM which has "/run" but it is not defined in "/etc/fstab". So I don't know where "/run" originates from. |
| 17:01.45 | arcke_ | oh i see, second time it doesnt find it in /usr/bin instead /usr/local/bin |
| 17:01.57 | nomike | Is it mounted somewhere in the initrd? |
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| 17:02.10 | tr0n1c | arcke_, no such file. |
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| 17:02.35 | jelly-home | nomike: which debian release was installed first, also which release is running now? |
| 17:03.02 | arcke_ | tr0n1c: it might be the executable tries to exec "/usr/bin/<executable>" by itself |
| 17:03.07 | nomike | I'm running 6.0 which the server was running all the time |
| 17:03.31 | dondelelcaro | nomike: it's done in mountkernfs.sh; it's only mounted in more modern versions of Debian |
| 17:03.32 | tr0n1c | arcke_, yeah, but why? That's what I'm wondering.. there is no such file there, it's only in /usr/local/bin. |
| 17:03.46 | arcke_ | what is <executable> anyway? |
| 17:03.52 | jelly-home | nomike: and the release on the machine with /run is debian 6 as well? |
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| 17:04.22 | tr0n1c | arcke_, py.test |
| 17:04.25 | nomike | the thing is, that the "denyhosts" service is mourning about not being able to create "/run/denyhosts.pid". |
| 17:04.35 | nomike | No, the other machine is 7.0 I think. |
| 17:04.40 | jelly-home | nomike: well, there you go |
| 17:04.46 | arcke_ | is it big? |
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| 17:05.05 | nomike | Ok. So I need to reconfigure "denyhosts". |
| 17:05.06 | nomike | Thx |
| 17:05.14 | jelly-home | nomike: what's the origin of this denyhosts you installed? |
| 17:05.20 | tr0n1c | arcke_, you mean py.test? No. |
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| 17:05.23 | nomike | normal apt-repos |
| 17:05.27 | arcke_ | marybe you can search if it calls /usr/bin somewhere |
| 17:05.45 | jelly-home | nomike: version 2.6-7+deb6u3? |
| 17:06.08 | tr0n1c | arcke_, I wonder if there is some kind of conflict because I had installed with apt-get, then purged it and installed the newest version using pip. |
| 17:06.13 | jelly-home | ,v denyhosts |
| 17:06.14 | judd | Package: denyhosts on i386 -- squeeze-security: 2.6-7+deb6u3; squeeze: 2.6-7+deb6u3; wheezy: 2.6-10+deb7u3; wheezy-security: 2.6-10+deb7u3 |
| 17:06.41 | tr0n1c | arcke_, search where if /usr/bin is called? |
| 17:06.47 | arcke_ | which package is that? |
| 17:07.05 | tr0n1c | arcke_, python-pytest |
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| 17:09.00 | arcke_ | which command did you use for pip? |
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| 17:09.35 | tr0n1c | arcke_, sudo pip install -U pytest |
| 17:09.38 | arcke_ | there are iirc different ways of installing to /usr/local/ |
| 17:10.30 | arcke_ | not sure, i am only using setup.py myself |
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| 17:10.57 | tr0n1c | hm |
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| 17:14.46 | Ameurux | Hi:- |
| 17:16.28 | komanda | im looking for irc networking channel anyone any recommandations? |
| 17:16.47 | komanda | bgp questions mostly |
| 17:16.55 | f00bar80 | i've tried to compile tshark on raspbian, and when tried to run it, i'm getting "Illegal Instruction" , seems that I have to compile for a specific arch. , any idea which and now ?? |
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| 17:17.37 | knosys | Hi , could someone help me with hdmi audio in debian 7.7? uname -a = Linux dpc 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.63-2 x86_64 GNU/Linux. I have like 4 different devices for hdmi (thats normal i think) but nomatter which i enable or what i do, they wont work. Any ideas? Thanks |
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| 17:19.41 | rozie | f00bar80: first, there is tshark for raspbian AFAIK, second they have channel, third, it's "almost armhf", so seek for flags they use |
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| 17:22.10 | f00bar80 | rozie, the existing package for raspbian is too old, on their channel nobody is answering me , when tried to install it always for armhf and armel, i'm getting "Illegal Instruction" |
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| 17:22.18 | DZBerry | hi |
| 17:22.25 | f00bar80 | rozie, so now is there any way i can get rid of this compiled version ? |
| 17:22.39 | DZBerry | even though it's offtopic - does anyone of you have an iphone to test something? (I am a debian user if it helps ;) |
| 17:23.18 | comotion | anyone know what happened to http.debian.org ? |
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| 17:32.01 | rozie | f00bar80: you should have make .deb package. I don't know how did you install it. If there was instruction for installation, there should be for uninstallation also |
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| 17:33.31 | vook | Is there a way to detect as a standard user if the machine that I am connected to is a VM? |
| 17:34.18 | vook | a xen vm |
| 17:34.58 | Laurenceb | can anyone here help me with a simple networking problem? |
| 17:35.36 | petn-randall | !ask |
| 17:35.38 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 17:36.20 | bolt | vook: virt-what |
| 17:36.43 | vook | bolt: without that installed (I don't have root) |
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| 17:36.46 | f00bar80 | rozie, http://pastebin.com/pu7S1my4 |
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| 17:37.36 | Laurenceb | i have a beagleboneblack (linux board) connected to a ubuntu desktop |
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| 17:37.47 | Laurenceb | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:37.55 | Laurenceb | previously i had the connection sharing ok, but recently something broke |
| 17:38.03 | Laurenceb | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:38.10 | Laurenceb | i can ping 192.168.7.1 |
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| 17:38.13 | Laurenceb | this is all i know |
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| 17:40.15 | misterme | Let's act like I read the license, let's act like I understood the concept of open, documented hardware. That happened. Like a thief, in the night. |
| 17:41.53 | bolt | Laurenceb: i would suggest you either read up a lot on networking and figure out how to set your machine to be a proper router, with a dhcp server, working NAT and everything, or that you simply use a store bought router and plug into that |
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| 17:51.19 | Laurenceb | <Laurenceb> http://pastie.org/9672965 |
| 17:51.19 | Laurenceb | <Laurenceb> http://pastie.org/9672969 |
| 17:51.34 | Laurenceb | ^my device is eth1 |
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| 17:54.01 | Noettore | Hi, I've a problem: when i try to shutdown or reboot the system doesn't turn off. It stays "freezed" on tty1 and I have to force a halt |
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| 17:59.36 | marioxcc | hi |
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| 18:00.13 | marioxcc | there is or was a program that displays an icon in the taskbar, it used to be like a recycling symbol, only circular and blue |
| 18:00.29 | marioxcc | and it informs the user when there are upgrades available, how is that program called? |
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| 18:01.06 | twostone | update-notifier |
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| 18:02.13 | Avic | can anyone help me to use vnc server? |
| 18:02.54 | somiaj | Avic: which one did you install? |
| 18:02.57 | twostone | first off: Do you need to use vnc, or could something else suffice? |
| 18:03.11 | Avic | tightvncserver |
| 18:03.23 | Avic | but cant acces it |
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| 18:03.32 | Avic | error protocol |
| 18:03.53 | marioxcc | thanks twostone |
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| 18:04.31 | Avic | can i try wit other? |
| 18:04.46 | Avic | dont know what to use |
| 18:04.49 | twostone | Avic: What do you try to achieve/do? |
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| 18:05.15 | somiaj | Avic: so after you installed it did you try to configure it, haev you checked it is listening on the correct port? |
| 18:05.17 | Avic | i have xfce, and want to access the desktop session of the server |
| 18:05.39 | twostone | avic: to do what exactly? |
| 18:06.01 | Avic | use some programs there |
| 18:06.03 | Avic | gui |
| 18:06.40 | twostone | avic: you could also use the programs via ssh, x-forwarding enabled. Bit more efficient, plus encryption and compression. |
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| 18:07.20 | twostone | Or do you need the point-and-click-experience? |
| 18:07.25 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: You're being very terse, it's difficult to help you without you giving us more detail about what you're doing. |
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| 18:07.36 | Avic | i need for example: open a program there and drag tome files to its window |
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| 18:07.55 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: You could copy the files to the system with rsync or scp. |
| 18:08.06 | Avic | no |
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| 18:08.21 | Avic | i open a application there |
| 18:08.45 | Avic | this app have spaces in it, and i drag some files to that spaces |
| 18:09.09 | jhutchins_wk | !pt |
| 18:09.09 | dpkg | Por favor use #debian-pt para ajuda em portugues ou #debian-br para ajuda em portugues do brasil. ( /join #debian-pt ) |
| 18:09.10 | Avic | i nees to access the desktop to see the app window |
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| 18:09.24 | twostone | Avic: So why not start this app in a ssh session, along with any others you might need? |
| 18:09.32 | stim | if my debian finished loading i only got a black an white small clock as coursor how this is called i need it to search how to get right gui running @Debian GNU/Linux 7.5 (wheezy) |
| 18:09.49 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: Actually, you don't, and you can't drag-and-drop to an application on VNC anyway. The best you can do is attach a local folder as a drive. |
| 18:09.51 | twostone | why does a server need a GUI, in any case? |
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| 18:10.15 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: You can launch the application over ssh and display it locally, it might even be able to access local files. |
| 18:10.47 | Avic | how? |
| 18:10.48 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: I don't know why you don't want to say what the application is, but you're fixating on a specific method instead of finding out how to do your real objective. |
| 18:10.55 | facuinf | HI, how do I get the dvd for Debian installation? |
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| 18:11.01 | facuinf | url? |
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| 18:11.12 | mtn | stim: look in the debian wiki about video cards |
| 18:11.15 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: First, what OS is running on the local system, and what's on the remote? |
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| 18:11.25 | jhutchins_wk | !insta |
| 18:11.29 | jhutchins_wk | !install |
| 18:11.29 | dpkg | There are a myriad of different ways to install Debian. See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer for a list of images and ask me about <netinst>, <various cd1> and <firmware images>. See also <install guide> and <d-i> for detailed instructions. (If you've never installed Debian before, you should read the install guide.) |
| 18:11.52 | Avic | i'm using debian and windows 7 on my pc |
| 18:12.25 | facuinf | !install |
| 18:12.25 | dpkg | There are a myriad of different ways to install Debian. See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/debian-installer for a list of images and ask me about <netinst>, <various cd1> and <firmware images>. See also <install guide> and <d-i> for detailed instructions. (If you've never installed Debian before, you should read the install guide.) |
| 18:12.34 | stim | guten abend, wenn meine gui startet mtn got this videocard: Vivante GC355 GPU |
| 18:12.34 | Avic | i'm using xfce or mate, i don't know what to choose yet |
| 18:12.36 | facuinf | !upgrade |
| 18:12.36 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, upgrade is what keeps your box from getting r00ted, or what you do with aptitude. Do an aptitude update first, and then an aptitude upgrade. Ask me about <security>. If you upgrade to a new stable version of Debian, read its release notes first. Ask me about <lenny->squeeze> <squeeze->wheezy>. |
| 18:13.01 | jhutchins_wk | !tell stim about de |
| 18:13.03 | facuinf | !security |
| 18:13.20 | twostone | well, that might complicate matters. avic, you may need xming mesa for windows for x-forwarding over ssh to work on windows... |
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| 18:13.37 | jhutchins_wk | facuinf: Please use /msg dpkg <factoid> |
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| 18:14.51 | stim | jhutchins_wk thank you |
| 18:15.20 | Avic | i have mobalxterm installed already |
| 18:15.55 | Avic | but can't use it, mmakes me confused |
| 18:16.14 | Avic | how can i exec a app there? |
| 18:17.14 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: ssh -X <target> |
| 18:17.18 | twostone | unless you have an xserver running on your windows-machine, any application startet within an ssh session on the server will not be able to connect to your local machine. |
| 18:17.46 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: If you start a program like xclock in the remote console, it should display locally. |
| 18:18.02 | Avic | yes |
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| 18:18.26 | sterns | I'm running wheezy and trying to update the curl on my system. I'm running into dependency issues: libcurl3 : Depends: librtmp1 (>= 2.4+20131018.git79459a2-3~) but it is not going to be installed |
| 18:18.59 | sterns | it's an endless string of dependencies if I try to do it manually, and apt-get install -f doesn't do anything for me |
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| 18:19.14 | Avic | but how can i open apps installed in debian |
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| 18:19.44 | Avic | i need to test this |
| 18:19.45 | jhutchins_wk | sterns: pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 18:19.47 | twostone | @sterns: conflicting repos, maybe? |
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| 18:20.16 | mtn | sterns: I suspect you should read this: https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian |
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| 18:21.36 | twostone | sterns: are you flirting with jessie? |
| 18:21.37 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: If you won't answer questions we can't help you. I asked you earlier what OS you were running locally and remotely. It matters. |
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| 18:22.47 | Avic | i answered |
| 18:22.57 | twostone | @hutchins: avic actually answered that already, he's using windows 7 and Debian. |
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| 18:23.13 | twostone | bit vague, on what and where. |
| 18:23.14 | Avic | locally windows 7, and debian in the server |
| 18:23.26 | Avic | debian wheezy |
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| 18:23.46 | sterns | jhutchins_wk: I used the instructions here: http://serverfault.com/questions/22414/how-can-i-run-debian-stable-but-install-some-packages-from-testing |
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| 18:23.56 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: Which VNC client are you running in windows? |
| 18:24.08 | twostone | @sterns: simple answer: don't. |
| 18:24.10 | Avic | i tryed 3 |
| 18:24.12 | jhutchins_wk | sterns: Ah, you broke debian. |
| 18:24.34 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: You need to figure out what protocol tightvnc is using, and make sure the client uses the same one. |
| 18:24.51 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: For instance, last I checked you can't connect to tightvnc with the native apple vnc client. |
| 18:25.15 | sterns | OK, so I need to update the curl on the system... should I compile from source then? |
| 18:25.19 | Avic | ultravnc, tightvnc, and realvnc |
| 18:25.22 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: You should be able to tell the client what to use, it has to match what tightvnc is using. |
| 18:25.24 | Avic | clients |
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| 18:25.56 | Avic | no |
| 18:26.02 | Avic | its something wrong |
| 18:26.15 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: http://www.penguintutor.com/linux/tightvnc |
| 18:26.21 | mtn | !tell sterns about debian-backports |
| 18:26.29 | twostone | @sterns: If you need bleeding edge, you should start with sid, not stable. Sid is a bit more tolerant to experimental repos. |
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| 18:26.33 | mtn | !tell sterns about ssb |
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| 18:27.27 | jhutchins_wk | twostone: I thought Avic said he had both on his local system, misunderstood. |
| 18:27.29 | sterns | mnt: I looked at backports, unless I missed it, curl is not there |
| 18:27.36 | Avic | tightvnc viewer errror: Unsiported protocol version: SSH-2.0-Open |
| 18:27.56 | Avic | unsupported* |
| 18:27.58 | twostone | hutchins: His original answer was indeed a bit ambiguous. |
| 18:28.10 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: So we need to know what errors you get, and one of the problems is we can't really tell you how to troubleshoot or fix the windows end. |
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| 18:28.47 | Avic | well, i just told the error |
| 18:29.00 | Avic | <Avic> tightvnc viewer errror: Unsiported protocol version: SSH-2.0-Open |
| 18:29.21 | Avic | unsupported* |
| 18:29.22 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: Thank you. Back to what I said earlier - you need to match protocols. |
| 18:29.48 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: I don't know why the vncviewer won't support what tightvnc has defaulted to. |
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| 18:30.02 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: Again, that's a windows problem. |
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| 18:30.35 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: Tightvnc might have logged some information on the remote as well. |
| 18:30.53 | Avic | oh |
| 18:31.08 | Avic | how can i see it |
| 18:31.15 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: You either need a client that supports the default protocol, or you need to configure tightvnc to use a supported protocol (not sure how to do that). |
| 18:31.35 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: ssh to the remote, less +G /var/log/syslog for a start. |
| 18:32.06 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: Could be in /var/log/daemon.log too. |
| 18:32.16 | Avic | well, i'm using the native: thightvnc server + client |
| 18:32.30 | Avic | so protocol problems its strange |
| 18:32.41 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: Agreed, but Windows... |
| 18:33.00 | twostone | Avic: WIndows is a bit more limited than linux... |
| 18:33.27 | twostone | or rather: more limited than most linux-distros ootb. |
| 18:33.47 | Avic | i have x2go and rdp iinstalled as well, can this have somehow make this? |
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| 18:34.54 | twostone | don't know x2go, but rdp is windows native, shouldn't interfere with tightvnc. But ssh is missing in windows ootb. |
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| 18:35.06 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: Ok, here's the reason, tightvncviewer expects to be connecting over an ssh tunnel - http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/VNC/vnc-over-ssh.html |
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| 18:35.21 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: I believe the java version of the tightvnc client will connect directly. |
| 18:35.46 | Avic | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:35.57 | THE_GFR|WORK | hey everyone I have a question, I have a linear raid ( software ) on an LVM with XFS file system. I can expand the LVM ( physical volume, Volume Group then Logical Volume and then File System ) but I didn't realize there was a raid in there, what order do I need to do the expansion to make it work without dumping things and going haywire after the LVM and file system expansion? |
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| 18:36.07 | twostone | avic: Do you actually know your way around a debian? |
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| 18:36.44 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: You don't need the logs, the problem is you're using the wrong client. |
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| 18:36.49 | twostone | no offence intended... |
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| 18:37.01 | bsdbeard | Hey, when I click on a downloaded file in chromium it uses some default viewer to display it, is there any way to change this viewer? I'm assuming it's dependant on some OS configuration |
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| 18:37.18 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: That client only works through an ssh tunnel. Please have a look at the two links I posted earlier. You can download the java client from the link in the first guide. |
| 18:37.31 | Avic | i'm using the java tightvnc |
| 18:37.51 | Avic | tightvnc-jviewer.jar |
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| 18:38.28 | twostone | Avic: That's the client. What about the server? |
| 18:38.55 | Avic | the server is the tightvncserver |
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| 18:39.14 | simias | hello |
| 18:39.31 | Avic | probably is the tunneling |
| 18:40.23 | f00bar80 | so ppl any comment ?> |
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| 18:41.02 | simias | I would like to get rid of xfce on my computer and simply use my ~/.xinitrc to start up my graphical session, what's the simplest way to achieve that? |
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| 18:41.36 | simias | I'm not sure how the login process works anymore |
| 18:41.39 | f00bar80 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:41.54 | bsdbeard | simias, I did that |
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| 18:42.26 | twostone | simias: There is a way to start the xserver on a per-user-basis, but why do it this way? |
| 18:42.31 | bsdbeard | simias, just remove the login manager, I don't remember what it was called, gdm? I think, after that whatever you put in .xinitrc will be used (just type startx at boot) |
| 18:42.42 | simias | f00bar80: probably a wrong --target or --march |
| 18:42.59 | simias | bsdbeard: ah, that rings a bell |
| 18:43.00 | Avic | i used this guide to install everything: |
| 18:43.02 | Avic | http://www.penguintutor.com/linux/tightvnc |
| 18:43.17 | simias | bsdbeard: thank you for setting me up in the right direction |
| 18:43.33 | bsdbeard | sudo update-rc.d -f gdm3 disable |
| 18:43.34 | bsdbeard | is what I did |
| 18:43.44 | bsdbeard | but that's for gnome, not sure what login manager xfce uses |
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| 18:43.56 | THE_GFR|WORK | hey everyone I have a question, I have a linear raid ( software ) on an LVM with XFS file system. I can expand the LVM ( physical volume, Volume Group then Logical Volume and then File System ) but I didn't realize there was a raid in there, what order do I need to do the expansion to make it work without dumping things and going haywire after the LVM and file system expansion? |
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| 18:44.05 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: Check the documentation for the client. You may have to tell it to connect directly instead of over ssh. Make sure it's a windows-compatible version. |
| 18:44.09 | simias | shouldn't be difficult to figure out! thanks |
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| 18:45.03 | twostone | hutchins: I think it's the server that requires the ssh tunnel, and the client that does not support it. Windows, remember? |
| 18:45.13 | bsdbeard | simias, it seems xfce often uses gdm as a login manager as well (according to xfce wiki) |
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| 18:46.09 | simias | I don't have a gdm process running |
| 18:46.25 | simias | I have a systemd-logind however |
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| 18:46.37 | twostone | simias: lightdm? xdm? kdm? slim? |
| 18:46.57 | simias | lightdm it is! |
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| 18:47.28 | bsdbeard | right, so disable that service from booting with sudo update-rc.d and you're done! |
| 18:47.53 | twostone | simias: systemctl disable lightdm.service |
| 18:47.57 | simias | I'll try to see if I can't just reconfigure it to do what I want |
| 18:48.07 | f00bar80 | simias, so what do you suggest? |
| 18:48.08 | simias | I remember that I could setup slim to run xinitrc |
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| 18:48.31 | simias | f00bar80: check what the gcc command line looks like when compiling |
| 18:48.37 | bsdbeard | I'll repeat my question since it's high in the scrollback... |
| 18:48.41 | simias | and compare with whatever people use on raspbian |
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| 18:48.42 | bsdbeard | Hey, when I click on a downloaded file in chromium it uses some default viewer to display it, is there any way to change this viewer? I'm assuming it's dependant on some OS configuration |
| 18:48.53 | simias | bsdbeard: ah! I know that |
| 18:49.00 | bsdbeard | simias, oh? |
| 18:49.12 | simias | it uses a service which is a pain to set up properly unfortunately |
| 18:49.31 | bsdbeard | oh |
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| 18:49.45 | bsdbeard | I'm not using any fancy window managers if that's relevant |
| 18:50.03 | simias | it uses xdg-open |
| 18:50.13 | simias | and unfortunately it's meant to be used with fancy WM |
| 18:50.17 | bsdbeard | ohh |
| 18:50.50 | simias | so basically it's xdg-open you have to mess with |
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| 18:51.01 | simias | and unfortunately it's not a pleasant experience IIRC |
| 18:51.13 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: You could try the regular windows tightvnc client instead of the java one. You might at least get a different error. |
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| 18:51.31 | simias | I haven't touched that in a while but if I recall correctly it tries to find your "prefered" application by using the desktop manager config files |
| 18:51.33 | bsdbeard | simias, looks like you're right, I've tried xdg-open filename and it uses the same viewer as chrome |
| 18:51.36 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: The documentation on the tightvnc web site isn't very helpful. |
| 18:51.42 | Laurenceb | hi |
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| 18:51.55 | Laurenceb | can anyone tell me how to setup debian to use a proxy server? |
| 18:52.00 | simias | bsdbeard: xdg-open is a script |
| 18:52.08 | simias | so you can just see what it does |
| 18:52.10 | bsdbeard | ok |
| 18:52.26 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: If you said you have xrdp installed on the remote, you could try connecting to that - it uses a different protocol, so you can have both/either. |
| 18:52.27 | bsdbeard | damn it, a 750 line script |
| 18:52.36 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: If not, just install it and try. |
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| 18:53.52 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: There is also freenx, which probably performs better than either one: http://www.wjunction.com/48-technical-security-tutorials/140861-%5Btutorial%5D-how-install-rdp-server-debian.html |
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| 18:54.07 | simias | bsdbeard: you can see it tries to find out what DE you're using |
| 18:54.11 | bsdbeard | looks like it looks in ~/.local/share/applications |
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| 18:54.16 | bsdbeard | if you have no DE |
| 18:54.36 | bsdbeard | open_generic_xdg_mime() |
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| 18:54.51 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: Ah, found the documentation: http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.php |
| 18:55.03 | simias | ah yeah, you have to make a file with a special format |
| 18:55.05 | simias | or something |
| 18:55.10 | bsdbeard | damn it |
| 18:55.14 | simias | I remember having to do something like that |
| 18:55.37 | bsdbeard | does this seem overly complicated to you? I'd do it much simpler |
| 18:55.45 | simias | yeah, I agree |
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| 18:56.04 | simias | well, I think they want to integrate nicely with whatever DE people are using |
| 18:56.17 | simias | I think we are a small minority not to use that :) |
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| 18:56.57 | marioxcc | hi |
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| 18:57.32 | marioxcc | is OpenVZ umaintained? I see that it only lists a modified 2.6.32 kernel |
| 18:57.33 | bsdbeard | simias, it's strange but I can't find anything with ".flv" in it by grepping /usr/local/share/applications and ~/.local/share/applications |
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| 18:57.40 | Avic | that one needs wine... |
| 18:57.58 | Avic | jhutchins_wk |
| 18:58.12 | twostone | bsdbeard: look for the corresponding MIME-Type |
| 18:58.33 | Avic | i'm trying to connect throu the tunnel with putty |
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| 18:59.00 | bsdbeard | video/x-flv, I'll try that |
| 18:59.12 | simias | bsdbeard: maybe try running xdg-open with sh -x |
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| 18:59.17 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: Which one? freenix? |
| 18:59.17 | simias | see what it does exactly |
| 18:59.21 | bsdbeard | simias, good idea, debug it |
| 18:59.50 | Avic | the tightvncserver |
| 19:00.19 | Avic | do you think the freenix is better? |
| 19:00.20 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: That's silly, it's in native Debian. |
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| 19:01.01 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: I haven't used it, but the performance is supposed to be better than vnc or rdp. vnc is a pretty old protocol, freenx was an attempt to start over with current standards and code. |
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| 19:01.28 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: A fourth method would be to install an Xserver on your windows box, either xming or cygwin. |
| 19:01.39 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: Fifth would be to install Debian locally. |
| 19:02.05 | Avic | no, debian locally no |
| 19:02.27 | Avic | windows box? |
| 19:02.58 | bsdbeard | it calls /usr/bin/mimeopen |
| 19:03.05 | bsdbeard | I feel like a detective now |
| 19:03.22 | twostone | elementary, dear watson. |
| 19:03.55 | Avic | installing a x server in windows and then? |
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| 19:04.16 | Avic | how i login to the server desktop? |
| 19:04.28 | Avic | xfce |
| 19:04.38 | bsdbeard | I did it!!! |
| 19:04.39 | bsdbeard | yay |
| 19:04.47 | simias | bsdbeard: so, what was it in the end? |
| 19:05.05 | twostone | avic: Once an xserver is running on the windows-box, you can then start graphical applications from within an ssh-session and display (and render) them locally on your windows-box. |
| 19:05.19 | bsdbeard | simias, the trick is to call mimeopen without any arguments, xdg-open cals it with -s -L, when you do that mimeopen lets you pick a default application and remembers your choice |
| 19:05.44 | Avic | how i make a windows box? |
| 19:05.55 | simias | so you edited xdg-open? |
| 19:06.03 | twostone | avic: thought, you're sitting in front of one? |
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| 19:06.22 | bsdbeard | no, just call mimeopen without any arguments, it provides a text-based menu to edit the viewer |
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| 19:06.42 | simias | aah |
| 19:06.46 | simias | good to know |
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| 19:07.07 | Avic | x forwarding |
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| 19:07.15 | bsdbeard | this is what's good about FOSS, just look at the scripts source and figure out what to do |
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| 19:07.18 | twostone | x-actly. |
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| 19:07.36 | Avic | i have mobaxterm already |
| 19:07.48 | Avic | but can't use it |
| 19:07.55 | twostone | and that is an x-server that other applications can connect to? |
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| 19:08.05 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: If you install a windows xserver (google xming or cygwin for files and instructions), you connect over ssh, then you can launch applications in the putty window and they'll display on the windows box. |
| 19:09.14 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: There's also xwin32, but it's trial-ware. |
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| 19:09.33 | Avic | i need to start a app, that opens a window, in that window have spaces to drag other files in |
| 19:09.53 | Avic | with that i only can see |
| 19:10.05 | Avic | cand interact likke that |
| 19:10.08 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: Right. launch xserver, connect to remote, launch app, it opens like a windows app on your desktop. |
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| 19:11.01 | Avic | and can drag files to that window? |
| 19:11.12 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: It looks like that's what mobaxterm is, but again, that's windows. The only things I do on windows are putty and web. |
| 19:11.17 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: Maybe. |
| 19:11.18 | bsdbeard | simias, what window manager are you using? |
| 19:11.23 | Avic | or is just wiew |
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| 19:11.41 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: It depends on the application. |
| 19:12.03 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: Some can see the local system, some are only displaying locally and all their files are remote. |
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| 19:12.33 | Avic | so to test that |
| 19:12.43 | Avic | mobaxterm? |
| 19:12.50 | Avic | can i use this? |
| 19:12.51 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: If you can get it working. |
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| 19:13.12 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: It's supposed to do it, but I can't test it for you. My local machines today are all linux. |
| 19:13.39 | Gforce | Hi.I don't want my /var directory be visible through my IP adress.What should I do/search for? |
| 19:13.49 | Gforce | /var/www* |
| 19:13.51 | Avic | i'm in |
| 19:13.56 | Avic | so now |
| 19:14.00 | jhutchins_wk | Gforce: Don't configure it. |
| 19:14.12 | Avic | i'm new at linux, i have to start a app |
| 19:14.14 | Gforce | jhutchins_wk:I need it! |
| 19:14.31 | Avic | and see if pops up |
| 19:14.37 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: You may just be able to type the application name. |
| 19:14.40 | twostone | avic: Just type in the name, press enter, and it starts. Not that different from windows... |
| 19:15.08 | twostone | only, it's case-sensitive. But then again, you might have shell-completion. |
| 19:15.12 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: If you're not sure of the executable name, dpkg -L package and look for things in /usr/bin |
| 19:15.23 | Avic | can you tell me a normal one just to see |
| 19:15.27 | jhutchins_wk | acrocity: xclock |
| 19:15.33 | twostone | avic: nano? |
| 19:15.42 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: xclock is the standard test. |
| 19:15.54 | somiaj | Gforce: what do you mean? Do you want to disable your webserver or do you want to make it so you only accept connectis via the hostname and give an error if they put the ip addr instead of the host name? |
| 19:15.55 | Avic | xclock works |
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| 19:16.02 | twostone | fair enough. |
| 19:16.06 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: Yay! Isn't that cool? |
| 19:16.10 | Gforce | avic:Also try xcl and the press tab key, one or twice. |
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| 19:16.47 | Avic | xcl: command not found |
| 19:16.50 | Gforce | somiaj:I want it to be visible only from local. |
| 19:17.06 | Gforce | Avic:press tab key. |
| 19:17.18 | somiaj | Gforce: What webserver are you using? |
| 19:17.20 | Gforce | Not enter. |
| 19:17.29 | Gforce | somiaj: Apache. |
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| 19:17.43 | Avic | Display all 1868 possibilities? (y or n) |
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| 19:18.38 | Gforce | I got disconnected.did I miss anything? |
| 19:19.04 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: If you type the beginning of a command and hit tab, it should offer just the commands that match that. |
| 19:19.11 | simias | bsdbeard: stumpwm |
| 19:19.15 | somiaj | Gforce: you will need to modify the apache config files /etc/apache2/ (froget the exact name but there is an httpd.conf in there somewhere) |
| 19:19.39 | somiaj | Gforce: you can configure what interfaces the server actually Listens on, change that and it won't listen on your public ip but only listen on localhost |
| 19:19.48 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: If you enter a command, then hit tab twice, it will offer to complete any file that might apply, ie anything in the current directory. |
| 19:19.52 | bsdbeard | simias, never heard of that one |
| 19:19.54 | simias | and for the record I ended up adding a /usr/share/xsessions/stumpwm.desktop |
| 19:20.05 | simias | [Desktop Entry] |
| 19:20.06 | simias | Name=StumpWM |
| 19:20.06 | simias | Exec=/etc/X11/Xsession |
| 19:20.08 | simias | and it works |
| 19:20.21 | bsdbeard | hmm let me check if mimeopen generated that for me |
| 19:20.35 | simias | no, not for your problem |
| 19:20.37 | simias | for mine |
| 19:20.38 | bsdbeard | ohh |
| 19:20.51 | simias | if you don't want to change the login manager |
| 19:20.58 | bsdbeard | I see, I just type starts at launch, it's nice in case X crashes I can just type startx and continue |
| 19:21.07 | bsdbeard | s/starts/startx |
| 19:21.15 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: Another cool trick: xdg-open <filename> will launch the appropriate X-application to open the file. |
| 19:21.18 | Avic | how do i get out of: |
| 19:21.19 | Avic | > |
| 19:21.21 | simias | yeah, it works as well |
| 19:21.38 | Avic | exit don't work |
| 19:21.39 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: Ctrl-C, or close the quote. |
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| 19:21.52 | simias | or Ctrl-D |
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| 19:21.56 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: What are you in? |
| 19:22.09 | simias | end-of-stream |
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| 19:22.44 | jhutchins_wk | Oh - I think I know where you are. Close xclock, you should get the regular prompt back. |
| 19:22.56 | Gforce | somiaj: I can't find any httpd.conf or anything with httpd in the begining. |
| 19:23.03 | Avic | Error: No file name given. |
| 19:23.28 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: for programs that don't give you back the prompt, do something like xclock & - that starts it in the background. |
| 19:23.52 | bsdbeard | better to run the from the wm itself, that way you can close the shell without closing the processes |
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| 19:24.46 | Gforce | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:24.47 | Gforce | "? |
| 19:24.59 | nightolo | is there any way to tell pbuilder with cowbuilder not to clean the directories if the build fails? |
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| 19:25.59 | twostone | avic: to drop back to the shell immediately after command execution, try "xclock &". It runs xclock actively in the background, but drops you back to the shell, to perhaps start another program likewise. |
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| 19:26.43 | Gforce | avic:Why don't you try graphical parts first? |
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| 19:27.23 | jhutchins_wk | bsdbeard: We're working with forwarded x applications if you're talking to us. |
| 19:27.39 | bsdbeard | oh |
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| 19:29.31 | Gforce | Any idea on my problem? |
| 19:30.05 | Avic | well, forget this |
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| 19:30.16 | Avic | i need direct access to a desktop |
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| 19:31.23 | Gforce | Avic:Do you have a desktop installed? |
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| 19:31.51 | Avic | or vnc, or rdp, i didn't try VM |
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| 19:32.15 | Avic | yes, i have xfce and mate installed |
| 19:32.26 | Avic | i have to choose one tough |
| 19:32.34 | Avic | i'm indecised |
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| 19:32.47 | Gforce | How do you connect to your debian? |
| 19:32.57 | Avic | putty |
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| 19:34.07 | Avic | witch is better for yu, mate or xfce? |
| 19:34.26 | jhutchins_wk | !mate |
| 19:34.27 | dpkg | The MATE Desktop Environment is a fork of GNOME 2, available since Debian 8.0 "Jessie" (and also in wheezy-backports). To install, ask me about <install mate>. https://wiki.debian.org/Mate http://mate-desktop.org/ #mate on chat.freenode.net. |
| 19:34.32 | bsdbeard | whoa |
| 19:34.48 | bsdbeard | !awesome |
| 19:34.50 | dpkg | somebody said awesome was a dynamic floating and tiling <window manager>. http://wiki.debian.org/Awesome http://awesome.naquadah.org/ #awesome on irc.oftc.net. |
| 19:35.03 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: The fact that you're running testing could be contributing to difficulties. |
| 19:35.04 | Gforce | :)) |
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| 19:35.14 | bsdbeard | :} |
| 19:35.25 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: So what was the result of trying to run the program remotely? Did it display? |
| 19:35.26 | Avic | yep |
| 19:35.36 | Avic | oh |
| 19:35.42 | Avic | no it didn't |
| 19:36.43 | twostone | you might need to activate x-forwarding on the server first. |
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| 19:37.40 | twostone | config files usually reside in /etc/ssh, should be sshd_config. It's commented, so it should be fairly easy to edit. |
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| 19:37.49 | Noodels | Hello, has anyone ever had a problem with audio volume being fixed at a certain level? I can change my audio volume but it always resets to 40 after a few seconds. I can't think what could be causing it.. |
| 19:38.03 | bsdbeard | Noodels, try setting it with alsamixer |
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| 19:38.11 | Noodels | bsdbeard: That's what I'm doing. |
| 19:38.16 | bsdbeard | :O |
| 19:38.37 | bsdbeard | did this always happen or it's something recent? |
| 19:38.43 | twostone | Noodels: Got skype running? Or something similar, that might interfere with your soundsettings? |
| 19:38.56 | Noodels | It was after some updates a long while ago, but I've left it to see if any new updates would fix it but not the case. |
| 19:39.20 | Noodels | I'm running firefox on awesome with a pretty simplistic setup. |
| 19:39.48 | Noodels | I've always had the problem even with nothing running but the WM and any audio application. |
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| 19:40.20 | bsdbeard | Noodels, I'm running awesome too, on wheezy, no problems... |
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| 19:40.45 | twostone | awesome on jessie, likewise without problems. |
| 19:40.53 | bsdbeard | Noodels, are the applications that use sound relying on alsa or pulseaudio? |
| 19:41.05 | bsdbeard | I had problems with pulseaduio |
| 19:41.37 | Noodels | Alsa I believe? I checked systemctl list-units and didn't see pulseaudio, but I don't know my way around the sound system in debian that well so I could be looking in the wrong place. |
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| 19:42.19 | Noodels | bsdbeard: Oh nope! It is indeed running. |
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| 19:43.09 | bsdbeard | I had strange problems when I used pulseadio, sound getting out of sync when playing video and sound stopping for no reason |
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| 19:43.19 | bsdbeard | but no problems with alsa |
| 19:43.24 | simias | bsdbeard: you can close your shell without killing background processes |
| 19:43.31 | bsdbeard | simias, really? |
| 19:43.49 | bsdbeard | I know you can do that with tmux by re-attaching processes, but that's about it |
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| 19:44.36 | twostone | if you use bg to send a program to the "background", it can be reattached to a different shell, afaik. |
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| 19:45.23 | simias | bsdbeard: well, with zsh you can |
| 19:45.31 | simias | it's no "nohup" option I believe |
| 19:45.41 | simias | although I think it does kill them by default |
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| 19:46.34 | simias | zsh is a bit feature bloated but it's such a convenient shell |
| 19:46.52 | simias | it's like emacs, everytime I try to switch to something else I always come back |
| 19:46.56 | simias | there's always something missing |
| 19:47.02 | bsdbeard | hmm so if I set this option, and put vim in the background, I can close the shell and then re-attach with fg? |
| 19:47.21 | simias | well if it's a gvim or something like that |
| 19:47.29 | simias | for instance I can start xclock |
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| 19:47.33 | simias | ^Z |
| 19:47.34 | simias | bg |
| 19:47.44 | simias | and then if I close the shell xclock keeps on running |
| 19:47.52 | simias | but I can't tranfer the job to an other shell, no |
| 19:47.58 | simias | or at least I don't know how |
| 19:47.59 | bsdbeard | ah |
| 19:48.02 | simias | I don't think that's possible |
| 19:48.15 | bsdbeard | simias, well I mean with tmux you can run terminal vim, kill the shell, open a new shell and then re-attach |
| 19:48.18 | simias | unless you're running in screen/tmux obviously, but that's cheating |
| 19:48.22 | simias | right |
| 19:48.24 | Avic | wowww |
| 19:48.30 | Avic | actuali poped up |
| 19:48.38 | simias | it's not for that use case |
| 19:48.48 | Avic | and can do what i needed |
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| 19:48.57 | simias | it's convenienc for stuff like "$ your-pdf-reader foo.pdf" |
| 19:49.05 | bsdbeard | I'm surprised that several people use awesome here, I thought everyone switched to i3 and other fancy things |
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| 19:49.21 | simias | and then you want to get rid of the shell without killing the X11 app |
| 19:49.41 | Avic | jhutchins_wk :-D |
| 19:49.46 | Gforce | bsdbeard:I3's pretty good.:| |
| 19:49.49 | simias | what's i3? |
| 19:49.51 | simias | ion3? |
| 19:50.01 | bsdbeard | hmm lets see if this works |
| 19:50.02 | bsdbeard | !i3 |
| 19:50.03 | dpkg | [i3] a tiling window manager inspired by <wmii>. http://i3wm.org/docs/userguide.html http://i3wm.org/ #i3 on irc.twice-irc.de. Not to be confused with <ion3>. |
| 19:50.12 | bsdbeard | hehe |
| 19:50.12 | simias | ah |
| 19:50.15 | Avic | can't drad and drop but can get the jop done |
| 19:50.26 | simias | never heard of it |
| 19:50.31 | simias | been using stumpwm for years |
| 19:50.32 | Gforce | these bots are aowsome. |
| 19:50.37 | simias | and ratpoison before that |
| 19:50.44 | bsdbeard | simias, all the cool kids use it, maybe I'll be cool one day too |
| 19:50.53 | bsdbeard | :P |
| 19:50.56 | simias | I'm so used to my current workflow that I don't think I could change easily |
| 19:50.56 | Gforce | simias:Maybe you shoud try it.;) |
| 19:51.05 | simias | it's one of those "autotiling" WM? |
| 19:51.10 | bsdbeard | yes |
| 19:51.16 | simias | mmh, never been too fond of that |
| 19:51.23 | qjqqyy | i3 is nice |
| 19:51.25 | simias | but I've never used them much either |
| 19:51.28 | qjqqyy | default config is very sane |
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| 19:51.38 | Gforce | exactly. |
| 19:51.47 | Gforce | it's pretty nice. |
| 19:51.51 | qjqqyy | it's close to zeroconf |
| 19:51.58 | simias | but again, I have my thousand of lines long .stumpwmrc |
| 19:52.12 | bsdbeard | my only problem with awesome is that both awesome IRC channels are dead and you can't get help with any issues |
| 19:52.14 | simias | it's going to be hard to migrate to something new and reconfigure everything to suit my needs |
| 19:52.30 | bsdbeard | :/ |
| 19:52.32 | simias | bsdbeard: I didn't know awesome was dead |
| 19:52.38 | simias | well, "dead" |
| 19:52.48 | simias | I remember when it was all the rage a few years ago |
| 19:52.49 | bsdbeard | simias, well I had the channel open for like ~20 hours and saw no messages |
| 19:52.51 | simias | that and xmonad |
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| 19:53.29 | simias | well, it's nice to see there's still inovation in the tiling WM scene at least |
| 19:53.48 | bsdbeard | a monad bit me when I was a kid so I'm scared of xmonad |
| 19:53.59 | speckmade | We haven't got networking here. |
| 19:53.59 | speckmade | ifconfig doesn't even show any interfaces except loopback. |
| 19:54.00 | speckmade | It's a freshly installed command-line Debian |
| 19:54.00 | speckmade | The installer had internet connection over Wifi using proprietary Ralink driver |
| 19:54.00 | speckmade | Now we already manually installed the Ralink driver from a package (firmware-ralink, I think) from the official non-free repo and lsmod seems to tell me that the drivers are loaded. |
| 19:54.00 | speckmade | Could somebody tell us why we don't see networking interfaces with ifconfig? |
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| 19:54.06 | bsdbeard | whoa |
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| 19:54.35 | twostone | That's what I call lag. |
| 19:54.47 | bsdbeard | copy paste probably |
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| 19:55.05 | qjqqyy | well speaking of tiling wm's |
| 19:55.09 | qjqqyy | check out loliwm |
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| 19:55.29 | speckmade | We haven't got networking here. |
| 19:55.35 | bsdbeard | qjqqyy, is NSA going to put me on a list for googling that? |
| 19:55.41 | speckmade | ifconfig doesn't even show any interfaces except loopback. |
| 19:55.50 | speckmade | It's a freshly installed command-line Debian |
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| 19:55.57 | speckmade | The installer had internet connection over Wifi using proprietary Ralink driver |
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| 19:56.10 | speckmade | Now we already manually installed the Ralink driver from a package (firmware-ralink, I think) from the official non-free repo and lsmod seems to tell me that the drivers are loaded. |
| 19:56.13 | twostone | speckmade: Paket "firmware-linux-nonfree" könnte euch da schon weiterhelfen. und man schaut sich inaktive Interfaces mit "ifconfig -a" an. |
| 19:56.13 | qjqqyy | bsdbeard: that's your problem then :) |
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| 19:56.34 | qjqqyy | but in all seriousness: https://github.com/Cloudef/loliwm if you refuse to google |
| 19:56.50 | qjqqyy | doubt if it's even usable yet though |
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| 19:57.33 | simias | I've been thinking of writing my own WM for a while (years really) but I keep hearing that wayland/whatever is going to replace X11 "soon" |
| 19:57.38 | simias | so I wait |
| 19:58.25 | Avic | is there a better probram that mobaxterm? |
| 19:58.31 | Avic | program |
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| 19:58.41 | qjqqyy | weston shell is surprisingly usable for light usage |
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| 19:58.50 | Gforce | I don't want my /var/www directory be visible through my IP adress.What should I do/search for? |
| 19:58.51 | twostone | avic: There's probably thousands, but what does it need to do? |
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| 19:59.32 | Avic | well, i need one that its fast and eficient |
| 19:59.53 | Avic | i'm going to install everything again, so don't want to regret |
| 20:00.13 | Avic | i'm not going to use jessie for now |
| 20:00.39 | Gforce | qjqqyy:Light usage like what? |
| 20:00.43 | bsdbeard | simias, I have a feeling I won't notice any difference between wayland/x11 |
| 20:00.51 | bsdbeard | simias, can it run vim and firefox? good enough for me |
| 20:01.01 | qjqqyy | Gforce: IRC + watching chinese cartoons |
| 20:01.07 | Avic | twostone, i need it to be as close as possible as the desktop view |
| 20:01.15 | simias | bsdbeard: it will make a difference for the WM though, I presume |
| 20:01.25 | qjqqyy | XWayland runs X stuff, but gtk3/qt5 browsers can run natively |
| 20:01.25 | simias | I doubt X11 WM will work properly on wayland |
| 20:01.28 | simias | but I might be wrong |
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| 20:01.31 | Avic | to do everything in gui mode |
| 20:01.43 | qjqqyy | google chrome + pepper flash worked last time I tried |
| 20:01.58 | bsdbeard | it seems everything simple is getting replaces with more complicated stuff |
| 20:02.03 | twostone | avic: what for? Do you really need to point and click? Very inefficient, very un-debian, even un-linux. |
| 20:02.13 | simias | I wouldn't call Xorg simple... |
| 20:02.16 | qjqqyy | x was complicated.. |
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| 20:02.22 | twostone | especially over remote connections... |
| 20:02.32 | Avic | yes, i want to point and click |
| 20:03.12 | Avic | open window view and interect with windows of programs |
| 20:03.48 | Avic | i mean, open a app window and use the functionalities |
| 20:04.13 | Avic | this one do it, but its a little slow |
| 20:04.36 | Avic | i don't know if i should try other |
| 20:04.47 | Avic | or stick with this |
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| 20:05.24 | bsdbeard | simias, so you're going to write a wayland based wm? I heard xmonad is under 1000 lines |
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| 20:05.41 | bsdbeard | shouldn't be *too* hard |
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| 20:06.33 | Avic | and a virtual machine? |
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| 20:06.45 | Avic | that i didn't try yet |
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| 20:07.07 | Avic | vmware |
| 20:07.15 | Avic | probably too complicated |
| 20:07.49 | Avic | someone told me ... |
| 20:07.57 | bsdbeard | don't know about vmware but virtualbox is really simple |
| 20:08.28 | Avic | virtual box |
| 20:08.30 | Avic | ... |
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| 20:10.48 | simias | bsdbeard: "going to"... maybe eventually? :) |
| 20:10.49 | Avic | someone tol me xming and other x server name... |
| 20:11.03 | simias | I've been "going to" do it for like 7 years |
| 20:11.26 | bsdbeard | sounds like my personal wiki project |
| 20:11.46 | bsdbeard | I've been going to finish it for about 5 years... |
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| 20:16.13 | Avic | xming is good? |
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| 20:18.56 | Avic | can't dl it... |
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| 20:23.20 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: Yes, xming can be downloaded for free, there's a link on the putty homepage. |
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| 20:23.34 | Avic | oh |
| 20:23.47 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: The other possibility is cygwin, which is a set of linux utilities for windows, also free and downloadable. |
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| 20:24.35 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: The problem is that whatever is managing the windows has to see that you've dragged a handle for a file into a window that represents the remote server, and know that that means copy the file there. |
| 20:24.58 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: I don't think there's ANY way that you can run a program on the remote system and drag files into an interface on that program. |
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| 20:25.14 | Avic | no |
| 20:25.44 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: In every case of drag-and-drop, either the file is copied or moved in the background, or the program it's dropped on interprets the path to the file, and there's nothing I've seen that understands a remote file path. |
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| 20:26.11 | Avic | but can get the files the normal way, not the fast one... clicking the boton and selecting them to add to the program |
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| 20:26.29 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: With some rdp/vnc connections, you can mount a local drive or folder remotely, then with the remote interface you can drag the files from the remote mount to an app on the remote. |
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| 20:27.07 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: It looks to the remote program like the mounted folder is a floppy or something. |
| 20:27.35 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: Even vmware is fairly limited in passing files between machines. |
| 20:28.02 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: Why not just install Debian on your local system? |
| 20:28.13 | Avic | so for you what is the best solution? |
| 20:28.43 | Avic | i don't use debian normally, its just in the server |
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| 20:29.05 | Avic | i always used windows |
| 20:29.30 | Avic | and i need to use that aplications in the server, not in my pc |
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| 20:30.21 | Avic | my net is not that good for upload, and then i have to upload the files to the server |
| 20:30.44 | Avic | this way i use the apps in the server, is faster. |
| 20:30.45 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: What is the application? What does it do? |
| 20:31.03 | Avic | just some video editing |
| 20:31.14 | Avic | not havy edit |
| 20:31.25 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: Oh, you are REALLY not going to be happy with that over a remote connection. |
| 20:31.33 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: Which application? |
| 20:32.18 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: avidemux is available for Windows, there's a simple solution. |
| 20:33.08 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: Even editing a short video over WAN is really going to be bad. |
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| 20:33.22 | Avic | no |
| 20:33.32 | Avic | its not really editing the video |
| 20:33.55 | bsdbeard | yeah virtualdub and avidemux are pretty decent on windows |
| 20:34.01 | bsdbeard | oh |
| 20:34.06 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: Think of how important timing is in video. LAN lag is going ti kill it. |
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| 20:34.21 | Metaqueer | hello i am metaleer (: |
| 20:34.31 | Avic | no its simple things not video edit |
| 20:34.34 | tapout | is there an app that can monitor all resources on a pid? I know about top and ordering on pid, but i just wanna say; watch THIS_PID and see the ram/io |
| 20:34.38 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: I keep trying to get you to tell us what you're really doing. |
| 20:34.48 | Metaqueer | !ops Bremsstrahlung hacked my account |
| 20:34.48 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: metaqueer complains about: Bremsstrahlung hacked my account |
| 20:34.52 | Avic | http://www.videohelp.com/tools/MKVtoolnix |
| 20:35.00 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: You keep either hiding it or misleading us. Is there any wonder you still don't have a solution? |
| 20:35.00 | Metaqueer | !ops please ban Bremsstrahlung ASAP |
| 20:35.00 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: metaqueer complains about: please ban Bremsstrahlung ASAP |
| 20:35.04 | Metaqueer | !ops |
| 20:35.04 | dpkg | Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. Operators can also be contacted in the #debian-ops channel. |
| 20:35.04 | Metaqueer | !ops |
| 20:35.04 | Metaqueer | !ops |
| 20:35.05 | Metaqueer | !ops |
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| 20:35.09 | bsdbeard | whoa |
| 20:35.10 | rww | sigh trolls. |
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| 20:35.12 | Metaqueer | !ops |
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| 20:35.34 | Jonuz | If I change my processor should I reinstall my debian or do something? |
| 20:35.50 | Jonuz | Both processor's are intel 64bit |
| 20:35.52 | dondelelcaro | Jonuz: generally speaking, no. Unless you also change architectures. |
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| 20:36.05 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: I think you're probably trying to fix a cassarole with a hammer. |
| 20:36.12 | tapout | is there an app that can monitor all resources on a pid? I know about top and ordering on pid, but i just wanna say; watch THIS_PID and see the ram/io |
| 20:36.44 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: Supported operating systems: Windows ... |
| 20:36.57 | Avic | i know |
| 20:37.36 | Avic | but i need the app in the server so i dont need to upload the result to the server after its done and do the things there |
| 20:37.58 | bsdbeard | tapout, . |
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| 20:38.03 | bsdbeard | tapout, you can pass the pid to top with -p |
| 20:38.31 | Avic | i want x foardwing |
| 20:38.44 | Avic | thats what i need, or vm |
| 20:38.58 | Avic | i need to try vm |
| 20:39.08 | Avic | i have to know what is best for me |
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| 20:40.02 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: What about a console-based app on the server? Are you transcoding? Extracting? There are a lot of tools to do that, and a lot of them are non-GUI to reduce load. |
| 20:40.21 | Avic | i get lost with all this in the channel |
| 20:40.45 | Avic | someone told me about a box thing that was easyer that vmrare |
| 20:40.58 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: vbox. |
| 20:41.01 | lyonsb | VirtualBox? |
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| 20:41.15 | tapout | ahh cool, thank you |
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| 20:41.35 | Avic | yes, i know, it has a cli version too |
| 20:41.39 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: That doesn't involve a remote system, it runs (for instance) debian within windows - locally. |
| 20:41.44 | Avic | but i like gui more |
| 20:42.28 | Avic | oh |
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| 20:42.36 | Avic | a vbox |
| 20:43.03 | Avic | but why i need to run debian locally? |
| 20:43.21 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: You don't. We thought you needed a tool that was on Linux. |
| 20:43.29 | Avic | i rather run windows in the server... |
| 20:43.34 | Avic | oh, ok |
| 20:44.01 | Gforce | Can creatin a index.html file in /var/www make other file and dirs in www invisable? |
| 20:44.01 | Avic | virtualbox |
| 20:44.07 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: So I take it that the source files are compressed or somehow much smaller than what you want to end up with on the server? |
| 20:44.17 | jhutchins_wk | Gforce: No. |
| 20:44.29 | Gforce | jhutchins_wk:What should I do? |
| 20:44.34 | qjqqyy | tbh Gforce it's pretty hacky if your httpd is set it might work |
| 20:44.35 | Avic | no, they are not encoded |
| 20:44.37 | qjqqyy | disable directory listing |
| 20:44.49 | jhutchins_wk | Gforce: It will supress automatic directory geneation if you set it up that way. |
| 20:44.49 | qjqqyy | what httpd, Gforce? |
| 20:45.02 | jhutchins_wk | Gforce: Turn off automatic directory generation for that folder? |
| 20:45.19 | jhutchins_wk | Gforce: Use <allow, deny> to lock certain directories? |
| 20:45.29 | jhutchins_wk | Gforce: What are you really trying to do? |
| 20:45.29 | Avic | its simple video edit, takind a part of the video, adding soundand placing in a container |
| 20:45.37 | jhutchins_wk | (I see a theme for today...) |
| 20:45.42 | Gforce | I don't want any one have access to my /var/www via IP. |
| 20:45.44 | Avic | no encoding here |
| 20:45.50 | Avic | so its fine |
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| 20:46.08 | qjqqyy | Gforce: then kill the entire http server |
| 20:46.12 | Avic | very light process |
| 20:46.22 | Gforce | qjqqyyï¼I need it. |
| 20:46.24 | Avic | so... |
| 20:46.25 | f00bar80 | i'm trying to install wireshark using apt , getting >> wireshark : Depends: wireshark-common (= 1.8.2-5wheezy12) but 1.12.1+g01b65bf-1~bpo70+1 is to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages. , any idea how to fix that |
| 20:46.27 | qjqqyy | for? |
| 20:46.27 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: Are the files all already on the server? |
| 20:46.37 | Avic | yes |
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| 20:46.52 | Avic | normally i have to dl to pc and then to server |
| 20:46.54 | Gforce | I want it to br only acessable through localhost. |
| 20:47.02 | Gforce | For testing PHP scripts. |
| 20:47.05 | Avic | in that way i do thing at the server |
| 20:47.05 | qjqqyy | Gforce: make it listen on 127.0.0.1 |
| 20:47.12 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: Ok, well, your original method isn't as crazy as it sounded. |
| 20:47.14 | qjqqyy | Gforce: what http server? apache? lighttpd? nginx? |
| 20:47.25 | Gforce | qjqqyy: ApacheãHow? |
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| 20:47.43 | Avic | desktop? |
| 20:47.44 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: If you can do it with the CLI, that will probably be faster and easier (once you learn how). |
| 20:47.52 | f00bar80 | ppl any comment ? |
| 20:48.06 | qjqqyy | Gforce: change the Listen directive |
| 20:48.07 | Avic | yes, i know |
| 20:48.15 | Gforce | qjqqyy:How? |
| 20:48.16 | qjqqyy | to like 127.0.0.1:80 so it only runs on localhost |
| 20:48.21 | qjqqyy | apache config? |
| 20:48.22 | jhutchins_wk | Gforce: Tell the server either not to listen to the external address, or use allow,deny |
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| 20:48.34 | Avic | so its better x foardwing untill i learn and do everything cli |
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| 20:49.29 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: What happened when you tried to forward the program? |
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| 20:49.41 | Gforce | qjqqyy, jhutchins_wk : /etc/apache2/apache2.conf? |
| 20:49.50 | Avic | it works |
| 20:49.57 | qjqqyy | sounds normal to me, been ages since I last used apache but yea |
| 20:50.07 | Avic | i just need to know if i should use other x server |
| 20:50.39 | Avic | better tht mobaxterm |
| 20:50.54 | Gforce | Now what should I exactly change/add? |
| 20:50.55 | Avic | this was the firs x server i saw al googling |
| 20:51.05 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: I don't know anything about the one you're using, but it costs nothing but time to try xming or cygwin. |
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| 20:51.29 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: If the one you have is slow, I'd go ahead and spend some time trying the others and see which works best. |
| 20:51.55 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: xforwarding is probably going to be faster than RDP or VNC because it has less data to transfer. |
| 20:51.59 | Avic | i just needed an opinion |
| 20:52.05 | grok0 | Gforce, /etc/apache2/ports.conf |
| 20:52.33 | Avic | :-) |
| 20:52.53 | Avic | thank you so much jhutchins_wk |
| 20:53.00 | Gforce | grok0: Now what should I exactly change/add? |
| 20:53.02 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: Sorry for all the confusion. This is why it's best to give as much detail on the end task when you first ask. |
| 20:53.40 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: If you get the command line working, you could create a script that automatically processes the files when they show up! |
| 20:53.47 | Avic | its not easy to help here, to many messages at the same time |
| 20:54.12 | grok0 | Gforce, "Listen 127.0.0.1:80" |
| 20:54.52 | Gforce | grok0:Just add that?No more change in this file or any other file? |
| 20:56.10 | Avic | xming or cygwin, right. |
| 20:56.16 | Avic | going to test them |
| 20:56.35 | qjqqyy | Gforce: remember to restart/reload apache, netstat could be used to double check |
| 20:56.46 | Gforce | grok0:Now it can't start apache. |
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| 20:57.01 | Gforce | Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName |
| 20:57.01 | Gforce | (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address 127.0.0.1:80 |
| 20:57.02 | Gforce | no listening sockets available, shutting down |
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| 20:57.46 | MadHatter42 | close skype, the port might be in use |
| 20:58.01 | f00bar80 | ppl any comment ? |
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| 20:58.35 | Gforce | Any idea? |
| 20:58.46 | MadHatter42 | do a sudo netstat -tulnp | grep :80 |
| 20:58.46 | MadHatter42 | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:59.05 | MadHatter42 | and see the process that is blockling your port Gforce |
| 20:59.07 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: Good luck. |
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| 20:59.08 | Gforce | MadHatter42:Talking to me? |
| 20:59.16 | BigOrangeSU | hi all, can anyone provide a guide for setting up a apple fileshare server on a debian virtual server running on virtualbox. I want to share files between host and guest using apple-talk or whatever teh latest file sharing server is |
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| 20:59.39 | Gforce | MadHatter42:I added this line to ports.conf ï¼ Listen 127.0.0.1:80 |
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| 21:00.21 | qjqqyy | Gforce: do you have multiple Listen lines? |
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| 21:00.43 | Gforce | qjqqyy: Yes |
| 21:00.56 | Gforce | MadHatter42:returns nothing. |
| 21:01.01 | Avic | wow i close a program im command line |
| 21:01.04 | Avic | ? |
| 21:01.10 | MadHatter42 | do a sudo netstat -tulnp |
| 21:01.19 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: What program? |
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| 21:01.33 | Gforce | MadHatter42:Lot of output. |
| 21:01.39 | grok0 | Gforce, make sure the original line "Listen 80" is commented out |
| 21:01.45 | Avic | the one i linked you before |
| 21:01.46 | MadHatter42 | check a line containing port 80 |
| 21:02.03 | Avic | normaly in linux how its done? |
| 21:02.11 | jhutchins_wk | MadHatter42: There are multiple conversations here, it helps if you use the nic of the person you're talking with. Most clients will auto complete if you type the first few characters and hit <Tab> |
| 21:02.12 | Gforce | MadHatter42:Isn't it beacause the apache is'nt running? |
| 21:02.31 | Gforce | grok0:You mean it's not commented? |
| 21:02.38 | Gforce | Or comment it? |
| 21:02.45 | qjqqyy | comment it |
| 21:02.59 | qjqqyy | you don't need multiple listen's Gforce |
| 21:03.00 | grok0 | Gforce, prepend it with "#" |
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| 21:03.06 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: Ususally the program closes when it finishes. If you launched a GUI program from the console, you just close the window. Remember what I said about using "&" after the program so you get the prompt back? |
| 21:03.23 | Gforce | Ok,It's now working I guess.Let me check. |
| 21:03.43 | Avic | i try to close window, but i cant |
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| 21:04.06 | Avic | i didn't use the & |
| 21:04.12 | Gforce | Now How can I find my Ip? |
| 21:04.20 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: Well, Ctrl-C in the terminal might do it. |
| 21:05.00 | Avic | no, the window is still open |
| 21:05.02 | jhutchins_wk | Gforce: You don't want your external IP, you want localhost or 127.0.0.1 |
| 21:05.23 | Avic | but cant interact with is tough |
| 21:05.37 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: Cn you make another connection to the server, maybe with putty? |
| 21:05.49 | Gforce | jhutchins_wk:It's working with localhost.I want to see that it's not working with my external IP. |
| 21:05.52 | Avic | yes |
| 21:06.04 | grok0 | Gforce, http://www.whatismyip.com/ |
| 21:06.16 | jhutchins_wk | Gforce: If I follow what you've done, that's what you DON'T want, isn't it? |
| 21:06.45 | jhutchins_wk | Gforce: Sorry, misread. |
| 21:06.53 | jhutchins_wk | Gforce: /sbin/ifconfig |
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| 21:07.20 | Gforce | jhutchins_wk:I don't anything but localhost have access to /var/www |
| 21:07.20 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: Ok, log in and try "pkill <program>" |
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| 21:07.35 | Gforce | Thank you guys.It's ok now. |
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| 21:07.46 | jhutchins_wk | Gforce: Listen 127.0.0.1 is a good way to do that. |
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| 21:08.07 | jhutchins_wk | Gforce: Sorry, didn't realize you were just testing it. |
| 21:08.21 | Avic | forget |
| 21:08.26 | Gforce | But Why I can't access http://192.168.1.1/ now? |
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| 21:08.29 | Gforce | NP. |
| 21:08.34 | Avic | ctrl+x worked |
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| 21:08.45 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: Ah, to close the local window? |
| 21:09.04 | Avic | the window that poped up |
| 21:09.08 | Avic | yes |
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| 21:09.17 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: Sometimes Ctrl- sequences don't get sent to the remote system. |
| 21:09.30 | qjqqyy | Gforce: is 192.168.1.1 your lan ip? |
| 21:09.39 | Avic | thanks |
| 21:09.41 | Gforce | qjqqyy:yes. |
| 21:09.46 | Avic | now testing the others |
| 21:09.51 | jhutchins_wk | Gforce: Because the server's not listening to that address. |
| 21:09.58 | qjqqyy | well if you listen on 192.168.1.1, people on your LAN can access apache |
| 21:10.05 | qjqqyy | just use localhost then, Gforce |
| 21:10.23 | qjqqyy | but it sounds like your LAN is pretty empty though |
| 21:10.24 | Gforce | It's Ok.No one else is using my lan. |
| 21:10.43 | qjqqyy | I think what we just did is a no-op but whatever |
| 21:10.55 | Gforce | should I add listen http://192.168.1.1/ æå¦ï¼ |
| 21:11.09 | Gforce | tooï¼Ã |
| 21:11.12 | qjqqyy | that's if you want people on your LAN to access it |
| 21:11.29 | Gforce | Ok.it's no problem. |
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| 21:12.28 | Gforce | Now again Apache can't start. |
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| 21:13.05 | qjqqyy | error? |
| 21:13.18 | Gforce | Could not reliably determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 127.0.1.1 for ServerName |
| 21:13.18 | Gforce | (99)Cannot assign requested address: make_sock: could not bind to address 192.168.1.1:80 |
| 21:13.19 | Gforce | no listening sockets available, shutting down |
| 21:13.19 | Gforce | Unable to open logs |
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| 21:14.07 | Gforce | Cannot assign requested address: make_sock: could not bind to address 192.168.1.1:80 |
| 21:14.12 | jhutchins_wk | Gforce: Try Listen *:80 (listen to all addresses). |
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| 21:14.23 | grok0 | Gforce, "Listen 192.168.1.1:8080" |
| 21:14.27 | jhutchins_wk | Gforce: Make sure you shut down the old one. |
| 21:14.33 | bsdbeard | argh |
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| 21:14.54 | Avic | the latest xming i can't dl, i have to donate or something... |
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| 21:14.56 | qjqqyy | actually not much point to restrict Listen to localhost right? Gforce is behind a NAT anyways |
| 21:15.00 | Gforce | jhutchins_wk, grok0:Which one should I use finally? |
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| 21:15.10 | bsdbeard | is there any way to "pin" a process in awesome? so that it stays in each virtual desktop thing |
| 21:15.30 | Gforce | 8080 didn't work. |
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| 21:16.54 | Gforce | and with Listen *:80 now the www is accessable from my external IP. |
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| 21:17.40 | spiftheninja | anyone know a reliable way to time my autoperform so i don't flood? PLEASE PM ME, WILL TIP |
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| 21:18.37 | Gforce | What to do now? |
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| 21:23.36 | jhutchins_wk | Gforce: Ok, we weren't clear that you had both a local LAN and an external IP on the same box. |
| 21:24.12 | grok0 | Gforce, you can use *:80 and restrict access with deny,allow |
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| 21:24.25 | Gforce | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:24.42 | Gforce | grok0:How exactly? |
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| 21:25.51 | Gforce | ? |
| 21:26.36 | Gforce | So I'll change ports.conf to default. |
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| 21:26.58 | Gforce | Now What should I do? |
| 21:26.59 | jhutchins_wk | Gforce: I checked the docs, and having multiple listen lines, one for each address, is supposed to work. So Listen 127.0.0.1:80 \n Listen 192.168.1.1:80 |
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| 21:27.51 | Gforce | jhutchins_wk: ould not bind to address 192.168.1.1:80 |
| 21:27.51 | Gforce | no listening sockets available, shutting down |
| 21:28.18 | Gforce | no listening sockets available, shutting down |
| 21:28.18 | Gforce | Unable to open logs |
| 21:28.54 | jhutchins_wk | grok0: That method (which changes in the next release0 is you go to the statement where the DoccumentRoot is defined, and look for the Allow, Deny section. Order Deny, Allow \n DenyFrom All \n AllowFrom 127.0.0.1, 192.168.1.* |
| 21:29.05 | jhutchins_wk | Gforce: That method (which changes in the next release0 is you go to the statement where the DoccumentRoot is defined, and look for the Allow, Deny section. Order Deny, Allow \n DenyFrom All \n AllowFrom 127.0.0.1, 192.168.1.* |
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| 21:29.29 | jhutchins_wk | grok0: You might check the docs or the comments to make sure I have the formats right and that * is valid. |
| 21:29.47 | Avic | i still have to install a desktop right? |
| 21:29.48 | Gforce | Ok.How about using a .htaccess file? |
| 21:30.42 | jhutchins_wk | Gforce: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/bind.html |
| 21:31.03 | jhutchins_wk | Gforce: Simpler to use Deny, Allow. |
| 21:31.23 | Gforce | jhutchins_wk:Can you paste in it paste,debian .net? |
| 21:31.23 | Avic | jhutchins_wk: for xfoardwing i still need the xfce, or the mate, or kde installed, right? |
| 21:31.25 | dltl | Gforce: you can't use that address i am already using it |
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| 21:31.41 | Gforce | dltl:What adress? |
| 21:31.48 | dltl | 192.168.1.1 |
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| 21:32.02 | Gforce | dltl:It's Lan's adress. |
| 21:32.05 | qjqqyy | 8/10 good one |
| 21:32.10 | qjqqyy | i actually laughed |
| 21:32.14 | dltl | please don't hack my system |
| 21:32.16 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: No, 'cause you're not using the desktop. |
| 21:32.30 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: I have a list of what you need, but it's pretty basic. |
| 21:32.34 | qjqqyy | -<REDACTED>- Death to 192.168.1.1 |
| 21:32.36 | qjqqyy | rip dltl |
| 21:32.47 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: Unfortunately it's on a system that's not up right now. |
| 21:32.58 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: Ask me Monday if you think of it. |
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| 21:33.39 | dltl | qjqqyy: i changed the ssh port from 22 to 212 - good luck with your brute force |
| 21:33.42 | Avic | i'm installing the cygwin and have in the setup pagge xfce, mate things to install |
| 21:33.42 | Gforce | dltl:That adress points to modem/router |
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| 21:34.04 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: Oh, you really don't need that, just the xorg server. |
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| 21:34.29 | Avic | ups |
| 21:35.52 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: Might be fun to play with. |
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| 21:36.01 | Avic | don't need cywin |
| 21:36.10 | Avic | ? |
| 21:36.16 | mitchreward | Hi guys short question, on a debian like system, I got two times the same process launched at start. One is owned by root and start with /etc/rc.local |
| 21:36.24 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: I just did the defaults, but that was a couple years ago, the installer might have changed. |
| 21:36.41 | mitchreward | other one is started by a user, and I can't find what is launching it |
| 21:36.42 | dltl | mitchreward: what app? |
| 21:36.44 | mitchreward | any tips ? |
| 21:36.48 | mitchreward | xbmc |
| 21:36.51 | Avic | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:36.53 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: I'm not sure what the actual question is, cygwin is a bunch of differnt stuff, you need the terminal and ssh and xorg at least. |
| 21:37.26 | Avic | thats x server for windows right? |
| 21:37.27 | dltl | mitchreward: don't worry it opens a number of process - check with ps -efw |
| 21:37.43 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: It should includ one. They have good info on their web page. |
| 21:37.46 | Avic | like xming? |
| 21:38.01 | Avic | ok |
| 21:38.05 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: Yeah, it's somethng like cygwinX |
| 21:38.18 | Avic | xming have to donate.. |
| 21:38.25 | grok0 | mitchreward, pstree or htop (tree view) |
| 21:38.27 | dltl | mitchreward: /dev stuff and sockets and it must be started as a user but needs to have root access to dev |
| 21:38.46 | mitchreward | dltl, ps few don't give me the parent |
| 21:38.47 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: Cygwin is a pretty complete set of linux commands, xming is just the xserver (and maybe a session manager). |
| 21:39.00 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: I don't know about xming. |
| 21:39.04 | mitchreward | but pstree does |
| 21:39.22 | jhutchins_wk | Avic: You can also ask about xservers in ##windows. |
| 21:39.36 | Avic | thanks :-) |
| 21:39.39 | dltl | the parent will have a pid and ppid '1' |
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| 21:39.49 | dltl | pstree just uses ps |
| 21:39.55 | mitchreward | dltl, thanks am gonna reboot to and make a pstree, cause at the moment 2nd process is manually killed |
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| 21:42.11 | queso | I'm using xfce. The gtk3 apps look wretched. If I log into gnome3, they look fine. If I log into xfce, they look bad. How do I set a gtk3 theme while in xfce? When I run gnome-tweak-tool, there's an orange warning triangle next to the shell theme selection dropdown and it's disabled. |
| 21:42.20 | Gforce | Oh man,I got disconnected.any comment for me? |
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| 21:43.06 | Gforce | jhutchins_wk:Can you paste in it paste,debian .net? |
| 21:43.13 | mitchreward | dltl, parent was init |
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| 21:43.24 | mitchreward | symlink in /etc/rc2.d |
| 21:43.41 | mitchreward | I removed it, and now it's fine |
| 21:43.50 | Gforce | Was dltl serious? |
| 21:45.25 | dltl | xbmc is a media player - why are you starting it in rc? |
| 21:45.42 | dltl | Gforce: serious about what? |
| 21:45.55 | Gforce | dltl:http://192.168.1.1/ |
| 21:46.14 | dltl | with username admin password admin? ;) |
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| 21:46.45 | mitchreward | dltl, cause it is the main purpose of this machine |
| 21:47.08 | mitchreward | dedicated to video playing, and if it reboot it has to start automaticaly |
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| 21:47.13 | Gforce | What you said about that adress. dltl |
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| 21:48.14 | alo21 | hi everybody, I would like to contribute to make Debiana a better OS... |
| 21:48.38 | mitchreward | alo21, why do you suggest first ? |
| 21:48.41 | alo21 | Could you give me the link of a page related to fixing bug, please? |
| 21:48.54 | alo21 | mitchreward: so funny :) |
| 21:49.17 | cra1g321 | wonders if Debiana is the new Debian fork |
| 21:49.21 | cra1g321 | ;) |
| 21:49.32 | mitchreward | alo21, https://www.kernel.org/ |
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| 21:50.37 | alo21 | mitchreward: are you kidding? |
| 21:50.51 | mitchreward | yes I do |
| 21:51.20 | mitchreward | kernel is one of the best running part compared to user land |
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| 21:51.33 | mitchreward | *for me |
| 21:52.39 | Gforce | alo21:You wanna fix bugs or what? |
| 21:53.05 | bsdbeard | alo21, contribute to the things you use |
| 21:53.08 | alo21 | fix bugs |
| 21:53.19 | bsdbeard | i.e. use vim, contribute to vim |
| 21:53.39 | alo21 | hhhmm.. yea I know what you mean |
| 21:53.43 | nightolo | what's the channel for ftp-masters? |
| 21:53.49 | Gforce | alo21:So maybe you would like to check out launchpad.net. |
| 21:53.54 | BigOrangeSU | how all any SMB experts here? I am having a problem in yosemite (on apple) connecting to debian SMB, i keep getting a spinning globe, I think its not keeping the connceiton open |
| 21:54.00 | cra1g321 | alo21 have fun - https://www.debian.org/Bugs/ |
| 21:54.19 | nightolo | ok #debian-ftp |
| 21:54.37 | alo21 | Actually I am using Ubuntu, but is very difficult to fix a bug because every 6 months a new release comes out |
| 21:55.04 | bsdbeard | software is updated all the time, nightly, etc. |
| 21:55.20 | bsdbeard | fix a bug and do a pull request on github |
| 21:56.23 | mitchreward | alo21, are you a C# dev ? |
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| 21:56.37 | bsdbeard | mitchreward, why would you assume that |
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| 21:57.10 | alo21 | mitchreward: C |
| 21:57.24 | mitchreward | when you say fix bugs on debian, you often mean fix C code |
| 21:57.39 | Miesco | Hi, I installed some pcf fonts into my ~/.fonts directory. How come I can not see them in xfontsel? |
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| 21:58.08 | bsdbeard | Miesco, did you update the font database thingy |
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| 21:58.55 | grazfather | when are apt-keys used to validate a package? We are adding a source (rethinkdb) then updating packages, then adding the apt-key, and then installing, and it fails. Moving the apt-key step before â asmodai |
| 21:58.56 | grazfather | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:58.58 | grazfather | oops |
| 21:59.08 | simias | Miesco: xset fp+ ~/.fonts |
| 21:59.08 | simias | xset fp rehash |
| 21:59.12 | simias | should do the trick |
| 21:59.26 | dondelelcaro | grazfather: it validates at the update step |
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| 21:59.35 | dondelelcaro | grazfather: unvalidated sources are not trusted. |
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| 22:00.00 | grazfather | dondelelcaro: so it validates the source, not the package? |
| 22:00.21 | grazfather | if the source is downloaded over http instead of https, how is its integrity confirmed? |
| 22:01.06 | dondelelcaro | grazfather: if the source is validated, the source contains all of the checksums of the packages, which are then checked. |
| 22:01.27 | BigOrangeSU | hi all any help on SMB performance issus? |
| 22:01.30 | grazfather | ok so when we update we download a database of hashes/checksums? |
| 22:01.40 | dondelelcaro | grazfather: basically, the Release file is signed, which contains the checksums of the Packages files which contain the checksums of the Packages. |
| 22:01.43 | dondelelcaro | grazfather: right. |
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| 22:02.08 | grazfather | ok thanks. I didn't know/expect us to maintain that much data on packages we might not even install, but it makes sense. Thank you dondelelcaro |
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| 22:02.31 | Miesco | simias: xset: bad font path element (#7), possible causes are: |
| 22:02.34 | dondelelcaro | grazfather: you basically need all of that data to generate the dependency graph |
| 22:02.40 | karlpinc | Just how high can the load average go? I've just finished my o-so-theoretically good totally kluged together anti-spam system, which starts 3 processes via inotify for every email received. And I've got 900 or so emails queued for delivery. Just dumping 20 or 30 emails into my spam bucket drives the load averate into the 50s (on my spiffy 300Mhz celeron I'm testing with). I fear for my email. Should I be afraid? |
| 22:02.54 | dondelelcaro | karlpinc: pretty much infinitely high |
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| 22:03.04 | karlpinc | No worries then. |
| 22:03.07 | grazfather | dondelelcaro: True, but I thought that was done during the fetching period |
| 22:03.24 | karlpinc | (inotify craps out at about 65536 or something.) |
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| 22:03.41 | karlpinc | dondelelcaro: Thanks. I'll see if i can set a record! |
| 22:03.46 | Miesco | ls |
| 22:03.50 | Miesco | sry |
| 22:03.50 | simias | Miesco: mmh |
| 22:03.52 | dondelelcaro | karlpinc: at least, I've seen it get well into 5 digits |
| 22:04.00 | Miesco | simias: mmh? |
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| 22:04.21 | MosesEX | is ebola going to be a pandemic? |
| 22:04.26 | bezaban | karlpinc: afaik it's processes waiting for cpu time, so they're lined up |
| 22:04.31 | bsdbeard | !dash |
| 22:04.31 | dpkg | dash (formerly Debian Almquist shell) is a <POSIX> compliant shell, smaller than <bash> and offers faster script execution (decreasing boot time). For new installations of Squeeze and later releases, dash will be the default /bin/sh. To switch old Squeeze installations: "dpkg-reconfigure dash". To check if your existing scripts will work OK with dash, use checkbashisms from <devscripts> and see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DashAsBinSh |
| 22:04.32 | dondelelcaro | MosesEX: this is #debian, and that's not on topic here. |
| 22:04.34 | bezaban | MosesEX: wrong channel |
| 22:04.36 | MosesEX | !ops |
| 22:04.36 | dpkg | Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. Operators can also be contacted in the #debian-ops channel. |
| 22:04.38 | MosesEX | yay |
| 22:04.40 | grazfather | Thanks again dondelelcaro |
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| 22:04.41 | karlpinc | dondelelcaro: I can't see me pushing it to more than about 3k. I guess nothing in the record books for me. ;) |
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| 22:04.54 | simias | Miesco: ah |
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| 22:05.01 | simias | http://www.freebsd.org/doc/handbook/x-fonts.html |
| 22:05.10 | MosesEX | if debian dies does that mean all debian derivatives will die too |
| 22:05.10 | simias | you also need ttmkfdir -o fonts.dir |
| 22:05.16 | simias | in your ~/.fonts directory |
| 22:05.24 | simias | to create the fonts.dir file |
| 22:05.24 | bsdbeard | MosesEX, debiant can't die from ebola, it's vaccinated |
| 22:05.26 | simias | EASY |
| 22:05.29 | simias | and USER FRIENDLY |
| 22:05.41 | MosesEX | dpkg: ops $problem |
| 22:05.42 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: mosesex complains about: $problem |
| 22:05.45 | MosesEX | yay ^_^ |
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| 22:06.16 | bsdbeard | oh no |
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| 22:06.29 | Miesco | Where is the font -misc-fixed- located? What is its name? |
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| 22:07.46 | dltl | didn't stew get banned for user abuse? |
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| 22:11.33 | MosesEX | why do debian versions get old? |
| 22:11.43 | bsdbeard | MosesEX, their DNA stops replicating |
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| 22:13.19 | dltl | MosesEX: but they still can look good with botox and chin lifts |
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| 22:14.27 | bsdbeard | dltl, would you rather be a 52 year old looking 52 or a 52 year old looking like a 28 year old lizard |
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| 22:14.40 | bsdbeard | no botox for my distros! |
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| 22:17.21 | mitchreward | sorry but old lenny would need some botox sometimes :-) |
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| 22:19.52 | dltl | sure hopes he lives long enough to see debian turn 52 |
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| 22:20.45 | phox | so I'm looking at the RepositoryFormat documentation and I am not entirely clear on when and why it equivocates and mangles paths... is there a more concise way to find out / construct what URIs it's using to fetch from remote repo? |
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| 22:23.26 | dltl | phox ...... what? ..... |
| 22:23.44 | dltl | doesn't apt-get install work for you? |
| 22:23.50 | phox | dltl: constructing the URLs that are fetched given a base URI and the various components thereafter |
| 22:24.01 | phox | dltl: I mean to get the repo data, not the package-specific data |
| 22:24.04 | dltl | you a lawuyer? |
| 22:24.14 | phox | uh? |
| 22:24.16 | dltl | apt-get update? |
| 22:24.28 | phox | that gives me fragments.... at least on this system |
| 22:24.40 | phox | not my system, working on it for someone as a favour |
| 22:24.52 | dltl | equivocates ... thereafter ... whereupon >..... ;) |
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| 22:24.57 | phox | just trying to figure out what apt does with all of the bits after the base URI |
| 22:24.58 | marioxcc | hello, how can I set up Debian so that when wireless network starts, it defaults to a transmission rate of 1 Mb/s? |
| 22:25.13 | marioxcc | I know how to do it with iwconfig, but it only works after the network has already been configured |
| 22:25.17 | phox | it does equivocate... squeeze -> ... sid -> .... etc :) |
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| 22:25.22 | dltl | phox check what is in /etc/apt/source.list - you might have broken or nonexistant links |
| 22:25.34 | phox | dltl: did I say something wasn't working? |
| 22:25.39 | phox | I don't remember saying something isn't working. |
| 22:25.51 | dltl | hates lawyers |
| 22:25.56 | phox | as do I |
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| 22:26.36 | phox | the repo server this system is configured for does not have http list permissions set up so i can't browse around on it, so I'm trying to figure out how the manifest files and stuff are set up relative to the base URI so I can see what's there manually |
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| 22:28.19 | dltl | marioxcc: why not bring the wireless up completely 'manually' so you can use the iwconfig line? |
| 22:29.50 | marioxcc | dltl: because it's VERY unreliable, and it don't always connects, so I can't set up that in a boot script |
| 22:29.57 | dltl | phox .. what are http list permissions? |
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| 22:30.04 | marioxcc | also, I want to keep the management capability of network-manager |
| 22:30.11 | marioxcc | I just want to change the default rate |
| 22:30.47 | dltl | marioxcc: it is from a script anyway - just behind the scenese |
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| 22:31.00 | dltl | put the line in /etc/rc.local |
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| 22:33.33 | marioxcc | dltl: well, the problem, like I said, is that the network don't always connect, and if it doesn't, then iwconfig don't accepts setting up a transmission rate |
| 22:33.48 | marioxcc | however, once set, the transmission rate is conserved between connections |
| 22:34.23 | dltl | the rate ain't your prblem |
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| 22:34.56 | dltl | it is usually set at max it can test for |
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| 22:35.29 | marioxcc | dltl: what do you mean? what is the problem, then? |
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| 22:36.54 | dltl | make a script that does each step and they YOU can find out |
| 22:37.19 | atomi | whats a simple way to delete every folder in a directory except one? |
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| 22:37.50 | dltl | lsmod will tell you the driver and then use iwconfig or iwpriv or wpa_supplicant for wpa/wpa2/wep/none (i find wpa_supplicant always works) |
| 22:37.52 | atomi | shopt -s extglob && rm -rf /projects/*!(test) |
| 22:38.12 | bsdbeard | atomi, scary |
| 22:38.30 | atomi | yeah it's a docker container no worries |
| 22:39.15 | mitchreward | atomi, find <dir> -regex "!file to not rm"-exec rm {} \; |
| 22:39.52 | atomi | thanks ill try that in a bit gotta ise the resteoom... |
| 22:40.15 | dltl | atomi: real programmers use mountain dew cans |
| 22:40.28 | mitchreward | or you ccan chattr your file then rm *, then chattr -i |
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| 22:42.03 | marioxcc | dltl: you didn't answer my query at all, but thanks for your time :) |
| 22:42.47 | dltl | i sure did - you just have no clue ... |
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| 22:45.40 | marioxcc | dltl: what did you answer? <dltl> put the line in /etc/rc.local |
| 22:45.54 | marioxcc | if you consider that a good answer, fine |
| 22:45.56 | marioxcc | but I don't |
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| 22:47.21 | dltl | do you know what /etc/rc.local is ? |
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| 22:53.48 | dltl | i'm guessing you have looked it up |
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| 22:55.47 | hamcore | Can I have dual boot with Windows 8 and Debian Wheezy 7.7 without enabling legacy mode in the bios (I mean using UEFI)? |
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| 22:58.13 | bsdbeard | hamcore, you're using UEFI right now? |
| 22:58.22 | hamcore | bsdbeard, yeap |
| 22:59.00 | bsdbeard | I read something about needing windows 8.1 x64 for that to work, but that was a while ago so I might be wrong |
| 22:59.23 | hamcore | Sorry, I'm using 8.1 x64 |
| 22:59.46 | hamcore | ?? uefi |
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| 23:03.58 | AlexLikerock | i need help |
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| 23:04.14 | mtn | !ask |
| 23:04.14 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 23:04.23 | AlexLikerock | DVI-I-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) |
| 23:04.31 | AlexLikerock | no , detect my HDMI |
| 23:04.34 | phy1729 | Where are the checksums for 7.7 netinst? |
| 23:04.37 | AlexLikerock | sorry... |
| 23:04.49 | AlexLikerock | HDMI-0 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) |
| 23:04.55 | Avic | ok, i need to for example interact with files in a server like they were in my pc, its possible? |
| 23:05.40 | Avic | like, analise one file with a program installed in windows |
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| 23:05.51 | Avic | its possible? |
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| 23:06.10 | AlexLikerock | Avic, more specific |
| 23:06.21 | AlexLikerock | you say server like apache ? |
| 23:06.28 | AlexLikerock | or SQL ? |
| 23:06.42 | Avic | a server with debian installed |
| 23:07.03 | AlexLikerock | by xserver ? |
| 23:07.03 | marioxcc | how can I configure my system so that (without having connected) when I connect to a wireless network, the transmission rate is set to 2 Mb/s automatically? |
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| 23:07.06 | AlexLikerock | or SSH ? |
| 23:07.33 | Avic | i have a x server |
| 23:07.57 | Avic | but cant use windows programs to interact with the files in the server |
| 23:08.19 | Avic | like a folder that windows think that is in windows |
| 23:09.01 | Avic | probably its not possible |
| 23:09.18 | AlexLikerock | Avic, in spanish |
| 23:09.19 | AlexLikerock | http://blog.desdelinux.net/x11-forwarding-a-traves-de-ssh/ |
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| 23:10.34 | Avic | i use that already |
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| 23:10.57 | AlexLikerock | so... |
| 23:10.59 | Avic | but thats for using the server programs in windows |
| 23:11.04 | AlexLikerock | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:11.30 | Avic | i want to use the windows programs in files that are in the server |
| 23:11.46 | AlexLikerock | example ? |
| 23:12.28 | AlexLikerock | do you mean window$ files into window$ programs into debian ? |
| 23:12.31 | Avic | i want to open a file that is in the server using a windows program |
| 23:12.38 | AlexLikerock | like that Avic ? |
| 23:12.44 | AlexLikerock | ok, you need install WINE |
| 23:13.04 | AlexLikerock | Avic, https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=wine |
| 23:13.10 | Avic | noo |
| 23:13.19 | Avic | i'm sorry |
| 23:13.30 | Avic | its like |
| 23:13.33 | AlexLikerock | https://screenshots.debian.net/screenshots/w/wine/1963_large.png |
| 23:13.41 | AlexLikerock | take a look firt |
| 23:13.47 | mtn | Avic: what kind of file do you want to "open"? |
| 23:15.41 | Avic | i'm in front of the pc desktop, i want to open a subtitle for example, i have to dl the file to my pc to open with subtitle edit that is installed in windows. i want to open the file that is in the server with the program installed in my pc. i want |
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| 23:16.02 | AlexLikerock | Avic, with WINE i install M$Office 2007 and 2010 :-) over debian |
| 23:16.22 | mtn | Avic: simply a text file? |
| 23:17.07 | AlexLikerock | Avic, to subtitles : |
| 23:17.10 | AlexLikerock | Gnome-Subtitles |
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| 23:17.29 | Avic | i was thinking like a folder with the files of the server, and the windows think that is in windows pc |
| 23:17.56 | Avic | that was only an example |
| 23:18.03 | AlexLikerock | nop |
| 23:18.07 | AlexLikerock | Avic, to subtitles : |
| 23:18.08 | AlexLikerock | aegisub |
| 23:18.36 | Avic | well, i see its not possible |
| 23:18.45 | AlexLikerock | i don understand :-S |
| 23:19.36 | AlexLikerock | open subtitles can "used" whit VLC or SMPLAYER |
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| 23:19.47 | Avic | i dont want to install the aplication in linux, i want to access the subtitle in windows and use the program installed in windows to open it |
| 23:19.59 | AlexLikerock | just need wirte exactly name with the movie |
| 23:20.07 | Avic | but for doing that the file must be downloaded |
| 23:20.18 | AlexLikerock | you are wrong chanes |
| 23:20.30 | AlexLikerock | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:20.38 | AlexLikerock | this its not windows chanel |
| 23:21.02 | Avic | ok thanks |
| 23:21.07 | AlexLikerock | open subtitles work with VLC ,( GNU-Linux AND Window$) |
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| 23:21.48 | AlexLikerock | Avic, https://wiki.videolan.org/Subtitles/ |
| 23:22.07 | marioxcc | how can I configure my system so that (without having connected) when I connect to a wireless network, the transmission rate is set to 2 Mb/s automatically? |
| 23:22.31 | AlexLikerock | Avic, https://wiki.videolan.org/What_can_vlc_do/#How_to_enable.2Fuse_subtitles |
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| 23:22.41 | Brigo | marioxcc, man iwconfig |
| 23:23.30 | marioxcc | Brigo: iwconfig rate [...] only works on already connected networks |
| 23:23.40 | marioxcc | how can I set the default for when a new connection is made? |
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| 23:24.03 | marioxcc | I'm using NetworkManager, which don't gives this option in the GUI |
| 23:24.33 | Brigo | marioxcc, i do not kown how, and i doubt you can do it. |
| 23:25.39 | marioxcc | Brigo: I hope that it's possible, because the rate is remembere even if I disconnect and connect again, even to a different network |
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| 23:40.33 | Halma | hi all |
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| 23:40.39 | AlexLikerock | hi |
| 23:40.43 | AlexLikerock | !ask |
| 23:40.43 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 23:41.22 | Halma | can someone tell me how to insert with sed a space slash -> ". /" without qoutes ... spending more then 2 hoours to find the right command |
| 23:41.46 | Halma | *sory i mean DOT SPACE SLASH |
| 23:42.40 | AlexLikerock | send to where ? |
| 23:42.59 | gotmynick | sed 's/whatever/. \//' |
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| 23:46.04 | Halma | i dont know what is wrong, i am using this command : "sed -i "s#\.[[:space:]]*ââââââââââââââââââââââââââgpath#\. \//\/usr\/local\/etc\/xen\/scripts\/hotplugpath#g" /tmp/xen4-tools/usr/local/etc/init.d/xencommons"" |
| 23:46.25 | Halma | i get this "line 9: ///usr/local/etc/xen/scripts/hotplugpath#g /tmp/xen4-tools/usr/local/etc/init.d/xencommons: No such file or directory" |
| 23:46.43 | Halma | sorry |
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| 23:46.48 | Halma | this command -> |
| 23:46.51 | Halma | "sed -i "s#\.[[:space:]]*/etc\/xen\/scripts\/hotplugpath#\. \//\/usr\/local\/etc\/xen\/scripts\/hotplugpath#g" /tmp/xen4-tools/usr/local/etc/init.d/xencommons"" |
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| 23:46.59 | netzdamon | hi, I had to switch to my onboard (intel video), I removed my nvidia-drivers and got xorg up but when I try to play videos I get the error that libGL.so.1 is missing, any ideas? |
| 23:47.22 | gotmynick | if you use an alternate delimiter, you don't need to scape the normal slash / |
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| 23:49.55 | gotmynick | netzdamon, there is a bunch of packages providing that library, maybe libgl1-mesa-glx |
| 23:50.12 | gotmynick | see in packages.debian.net searching for that file name in packages contents |
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| 23:51.07 | AlexLikerock | Halma, wait .... |
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| 23:51.40 | netzdamon | gotmynick: reinstalled tthat one as well |
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| 23:52.10 | MadHatter42 | i have to issue a sed command that would replace something like this ---> .save_path = /home/www/__php_session_area |
| 23:52.18 | MadHatter42 | into something like this ----> .save_path = 'tcp://memcache1:11211,tcp://memcache2:11211' |
| 23:52.27 | MadHatter42 | tried different combinations but still wont work |
| 23:52.31 | MadHatter42 | any ideas ? |
| 23:53.14 | dltl | well i am working on a new idea .. e=mc**2 + .0001 |
| 23:53.45 | AlexLikerock | :D |
| 23:53.46 | AlexLikerock | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3p4MZJsexEs |
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