| 00:00.03 | tytan | SynrGy: How do I do that persistence thing with terminal? |
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| 00:00.24 | nkuttler | CCFL_Man: but if you have to ask, you probably should try a simple de first, maybe xfce |
| 00:00.33 | nkuttler | CCFL_Man: and then decide if you want more or less |
| 00:00.50 | dvs | less than xfce? |
| 00:00.55 | SynrGy | here's a tutorial for using persistence with any (including the 'standard' live image) prebuild wheezy images that we ship: http://syn.theti.ca/2013/06/22/tutorial-wheezy-live-iso-hybrid-with-persistence-on-usb/ |
| 00:00.59 | SynrGy | prebuilt* |
| 00:01.08 | nkuttler | dvs: like, any wm |
| 00:01.20 | tytan | SynrGy: Thank you very much ^^ |
| 00:01.22 | SynrGy | tytan: or else, as i wrote in the article, you could build your own image using usb-hdd |
| 00:01.30 | CCFL_Man | nkuttler: i'm setting up a system with mythtv. i wanted to use ratpoison and just load the application on bootup. i oroginally installed it with xfce4 and removed it, and removed xfce4 window manager |
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| 00:03.12 | CCFL_Man | nkuttler: i was thinking i removed something that was required |
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| 00:06.03 | CCFL_Man | nkuttler: startx ratpoison worked |
| 00:06.07 | knosys | /192.168.1.5/www /mnt/www cifs --verbose username=userone,password=XXXX,rw,uid=1000 0 0 |
| 00:06.18 | knosys | guys --verbose say: line 15 is bad? |
| 00:06.26 | knosys | i mean, that line is bad* |
| 00:06.43 | knosys | it starts with another / |
| 00:06.50 | knosys | its for fstab |
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| 00:07.18 | nkuttler | CCFL_Man: ah, sounds like you want to create an ~/.xsession then |
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| 00:07.24 | nkuttler | !tell CCFL_Man about xsession |
| 00:07.54 | nkuttler | CCFL_Man: just put exec ratpoison in there |
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| 00:08.33 | knosys | someone can help me with this mount in samba please? |
| 00:08.59 | CCFL_Man | nkuttler: thank you sir |
| 00:10.39 | knosys | ok forget about that --verbose, probably its causing the error. But i still having this error when trying to mount: |
| 00:10.49 | knosys | mount error(13): Permission denied |
| 00:10.52 | knosys | Refer to the mount.cifs(8) manual page (e.g. man mount.cifs) |
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| 00:11.51 | knosys | i set the permissions in host Directory, also i set the right permissions in the mount point of the client-side PC |
| 00:12.02 | knosys | so im not sure why its "Permission dennied" |
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| 00:16.07 | notthensa | i heart linux |
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| 00:16.39 | notthensa | linux is love |
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| 00:16.41 | notthensa | linux is life |
| 00:17.00 | notthensa | linux rules the world |
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| 00:17.06 | marioxcc | hello |
| 00:17.14 | notthensa | hello |
| 00:17.21 | marioxcc | Does Xen makes VNC available? |
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| 00:18.07 | notthensa | im not sure |
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| 00:18.53 | kenshin | how to increase speed video avidemux |
| 00:19.13 | knosys | guys what means the 2nd parameter on ls -l ? |
| 00:19.29 | knosys | first are permissions, what about the second column? |
| 00:21.28 | dvs | knosys: number of blocks taken up by that entry |
| 00:22.30 | knosys | thanks |
| 00:22.35 | notthensa | im not the nsa |
| 00:23.03 | knosys | Please can someone help me to know whats wrong on my samba sharing configuration? between VM and PC ? |
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| 00:24.01 | jasonwc | knosys, are you using bridged networking? |
| 00:24.15 | knosys | yes |
| 00:24.41 | knosys | mm maybe its impossible what im trying to achieve? |
| 00:24.55 | marioxcc | Does Xen makes VNC available like QEMU (formely also KVM)? |
| 00:25.13 | knosys | i really though that it act's like its connected to the router this way... but not really sure |
| 00:25.23 | knosys | jasonwc: why do you ask? |
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| 00:26.59 | jasonwc | knosys, just makse the network setup a lot easier if you are sharing on the same subnet |
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| 00:27.12 | notthensa | i just installed KDE, but im still on gnome? how do i switch to kde |
| 00:27.41 | knosys | jasonwc: its same subnet mask |
| 00:28.03 | knosys | thats why i used bridged connection, because otherwise i couldnt modify the ip address |
| 00:28.09 | Vutral | eh |
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| 00:28.12 | Vutral | what sthe name of stable ? |
| 00:28.27 | knosys | Wheezy |
| 00:29.30 | Vutral | and what sthe name of the next stable? |
| 00:30.13 | shibboleth | Jessie |
| 00:30.29 | marioxcc | Vutral: check https://www.debian.org/releases/ |
| 00:30.54 | knosys | Jessie? |
| 00:31.16 | knosys | Ah, the next stable |
| 00:32.36 | shibboleth | speaking of jessie, have there been any musings as to whether or not the bootloader will be signed/secure boot-compliant? |
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| 00:43.16 | knosys | finally!! |
| 00:43.26 | knosys | all i needed to do its add the user to samba |
| 00:43.30 | knosys | smbpasswd -a username |
| 00:43.32 | knosys | -.- |
| 00:43.38 | knosys | fcking afternoon lost on that |
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| 00:48.20 | BenNZ | iceweasel keeps crashing , i get this error , http://dpaste.com/06HCQS4 can anyone help ? |
| 00:48.45 | BenNZ | actually id better go to #debian-next |
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| 01:30.14 | maldridge | is it possible to install a 2.6 series kernel in wheezy? |
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| 01:31.50 | Brigo | maldridge, there is no packages in wheezy for 2.6 |
| 01:32.01 | Brigo | You can try to get it from snapshot.debian.net, but may be something does not work ok. |
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| 01:32.33 | maldridge | so would it just be easier to install an older build of debian? |
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| 01:33.52 | maldridge | belak: you probably want the iptables-persistent package |
| 01:34.14 | nkuttler | belak: iptables-persistent works fine |
| 01:34.27 | belak | Ah, nifty |
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| 01:44.27 | marioxcc | has XEN VNC support? |
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| 02:00.38 | knosys | guys i have mysql-server package "stucket" on a bucle |
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| 02:00.42 | knosys | cant install, cant uninstall |
| 02:00.52 | SPECTRE138 | Is there a way to upgrade mesa without compliling myself? |
| 02:00.54 | knosys | i have rebooted, remove --purge, nothing works |
| 02:01.32 | knosys | when i try to uninstall it, Installer starts (?) , like unfinished installation |
| 02:01.46 | knosys | if i try to finish it, it fails at starting mysql_server, because it doesnt find the socket file |
| 02:02.04 | knosys | its really messed... i dont know what to do to fix this |
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| 02:04.40 | ariscop | knosys, try aptitude remove mysql-server |
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| 02:04.57 | knosys | yes already did and not working |
| 02:05.12 | ariscop | should have given you some more detailed output though |
| 02:06.02 | jmcnaught | knosys: mysql-server is a package that depends on mysql-server-5.5. Maybe you can put up a paste of the commands and output on http://paste.debian.net/ ? |
| 02:06.45 | knosys | jmcnaught: right, it said it cant install that dependency |
| 02:06.50 | jmcnaught | SPECTRE138: you can check to see if there's a newer version in wheezy-backports. Generally on Debian Stable the versions remain "stable" and don't change until the next release |
| 02:06.54 | JesseW | Trying to debug IMAP problems with the version of evolution in Debian wheezy (3.4.4). I've turned on debug messages (for imapx) (as suggested here: https://wiki.gnome.org/Apps/Evolution/Debugging ), but *none* are produced... is this a problem others are familiar with? Might it be related to POODLE? |
| 02:07.12 | knosys | jmcnaught: what do you want me to run? |
| 02:07.25 | jmcnaught | knosys: show us what you're trying to do and the output in a paste |
| 02:07.31 | knosys | okay |
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| 02:10.38 | knosys | jmcnaught: http://paste.debian.net/128869/ |
| 02:11.09 | knosys | lol i just noticed im using sudo with root XDD |
| 02:11.32 | knosys | im not loged in root often. I was just trying different things to see if i could get out of the bucle |
| 02:11.44 | jmcnaught | bucle? |
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| 02:13.33 | knosys | dpkg: error processing mysql-server-5.5 (--configure): |
| 02:13.34 | dpkg | knosys: That isn't an error, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
| 02:14.06 | nkuttler | how did dpkg figure that.. |
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| 02:14.14 | knosys | xD |
| 02:14.59 | knosys | jmcnaught: yes, bucle. I try to remove, and installer runs again. I try to installer, and it cant run |
| 02:15.01 | knosys | so its a bucle |
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| 02:15.07 | knosys | i cant remove or install it properly |
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| 02:15.38 | nkuttler | knosys: paste.debian.net the command you use and the entire output |
| 02:15.53 | knosys | I already pasted man |
| 02:15.56 | knosys | thats the output |
| 02:16.04 | knosys | look at line 71 |
| 02:16.10 | knosys | and 77 |
| 02:16.14 | knosys | look at it if you want to look at it |
| 02:16.17 | jmcnaught | knosys: sorry i don't know that word bucle. nkuttler the paste is here: http://paste.debian.net/128869/ |
| 02:17.01 | nkuttler | knosys: "invoke-rc.d: initscript mysql, action "start" failed." |
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| 02:17.19 | nkuttler | knosys: so figure out why /etc/init.d/mysql start fails |
| 02:17.25 | knosys | sorry, bucle its like "for" and "while" in programming languages |
| 02:17.36 | knosys | it cant find the socket file |
| 02:17.44 | knosys | but i cant find it either lol |
| 02:17.56 | knosys | nkuttler: man im asking for help |
| 02:18.04 | jmcnaught | knosys: is there anything relevant in /var/log/mysql.err (or .log)? |
| 02:18.05 | knosys | what kind of answer is that? So figure it out... |
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| 02:18.08 | nkuttler | oh boy, i tried to help.. |
| 02:18.18 | knosys | oh yeah boy, so much |
| 02:18.20 | knosys | so hardly |
| 02:18.35 | knosys | no jmcnaught |
| 02:18.38 | nkuttler | knosys: if you don't understand advice you get, ask for more info |
| 02:18.43 | knosys | only log there is relevant info its on the syslog |
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| 02:19.14 | knosys | and there is where i found out about socket file missing |
| 02:19.23 | knosys | it should be in /var/run/mysql/ |
| 02:19.26 | knosys | but its not there |
| 02:19.42 | knosys | already try find / -type s |
| 02:19.44 | knosys | no luck |
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| 02:20.13 | nkuttler | knosys: paste the syslog as well |
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| 02:23.37 | knosys | is there any sensible information? |
| 02:23.39 | knosys | on syslog? |
| 02:23.44 | knosys | like password inputs or things like that? |
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| 02:24.01 | richac | knosys: hello |
| 02:24.10 | knosys | hey richac |
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| 02:25.35 | knosys | http://paste.debian.net/128870/ |
| 02:25.37 | knosys | that is the syslog |
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| 02:26.13 | richac | knosys: are you having problems? |
| 02:26.28 | knosys | yes |
| 02:26.43 | richac | oh with mysql it looks like? |
| 02:26.49 | knosys | mysql-server, cant install or remove it |
| 02:26.52 | nkuttler | knosys: "Do you already have another mysqld server running on port: 3306 ?" |
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| 02:27.09 | knosys | It shouldnt |
| 02:27.17 | nkuttler | yeah, so check |
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| 02:27.36 | knosys | uhm, do you know any tip for that? |
| 02:27.45 | knosys | i will be looking for a way to check, but would be faster |
| 02:27.47 | nkuttler | knosys: try ps auxw | grep mysql |
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| 02:27.52 | knosys | thanks you |
| 02:28.22 | knosys | there is one process, yes |
| 02:28.30 | knosys | but not more than one |
| 02:28.50 | nkuttler | knosys: is it the grep? |
| 02:29.03 | knosys | grep mysql , yes |
| 02:29.27 | nkuttler | knosys: um, what's the output of ifconfig -a ? |
| 02:29.53 | marioxcc | don't forget to use the debian pastebin or that pesky bot will kick you |
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| 02:31.27 | knosys | http://paste.debian.net/128872/ |
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| 02:31.47 | knosys | yes thanks marioxcc xD |
| 02:31.51 | nkuttler | knosys: yeah, your loopback device has no address |
| 02:31.52 | knosys | i wouldnt paste that here |
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| 02:32.02 | nkuttler | knosys: that's ... seriously wrong |
| 02:32.10 | knosys | Ahh |
| 02:32.29 | knosys | I just used bridge connection , so configured ip manually for et0 |
| 02:32.34 | knosys | what is loopback? |
| 02:32.39 | knosys | i mean, what is that for? |
| 02:32.49 | nkuttler | !tell knosys about lo |
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| 02:33.23 | rohanrhu | hi |
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| 02:33.48 | knosys | uhm |
| 02:34.01 | knosys | so i should fix that right away, that is causing the problem? |
| 02:34.11 | marioxcc | knosys: :) |
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| 02:35.01 | rohanrhu | there is two files those are sended by comodo domain.ca-bundle and domain.crt i created private key with openssl req -nodes -newkey rsa:2048 -keyout myserver.key -out server.csr |
| 02:35.04 | richac | knosys: thats something I want to know too |
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| 02:35.31 | richac | i dno't know why these email clients need to listen on port 25 even just for local mail |
| 02:35.34 | rohanrhu | but apache2 says Init: Unable to read server certificate from file ../server.key |
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| 02:35.43 | richac | i mean the mta's |
| 02:35.45 | CRCinAU | I'm working on a preseed file - but I can't quite figure out the correct setup for using /dev/xvda as a whole disk, format as ext4 and use it as / |
| 02:35.52 | rohanrhu | what can i do? |
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| 02:36.46 | richac | knosys: "virtual network interface through which network applications can communicate when executing on the same machine." |
| 02:36.58 | knosys | nkuttler: do you think that is the problem ? |
| 02:37.22 | knosys | Aahh richac thanks you |
| 02:37.28 | knosys | much more clear like that |
| 02:37.34 | knosys | than the text that dpkg has |
| 02:38.25 | richac | sorry i can't help you with mysql |
| 02:38.33 | richac | i purged it out of my debian haha |
| 02:38.38 | knosys | no worryes |
| 02:38.41 | knosys | hehe |
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| 02:39.01 | richac | on debian, the software manager even lets you remove it, then the software manager removes itself haha |
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| 02:39.18 | richac | i purged all the java and mysql, you have to give up some gui programs like software manager, but thats no big deal |
| 02:39.27 | richac | runs great and i notice no issues |
| 02:39.37 | richac | on mint i tried, and the mint doesn't let you |
| 02:39.45 | knosys | was running low of performance? |
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| 02:39.54 | richac | knosys: no i just feel they are security risks |
| 02:40.08 | jmcnaught | rohanrhu: did you create an unencrypted copy of the private key? |
| 02:40.11 | knosys | I see |
| 02:40.35 | richac | mint and ubuntu, either refuse to let you remove them, with any package manager, or it will downgrade or upgrade to another version automatically, real annoying. on debian. you can do w/e you want. |
| 02:41.26 | rohanrhu | jmcnaught: i dont know i put two files those are sended by comodo and genereated key and csr files with openssl command |
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| 02:41.37 | rohanrhu | sorry i setup ssl first time :/ |
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| 02:42.52 | CRCinAU | it seems the preseeding stuff for disk partitioning isn't really well documented :\ |
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| 02:45.51 | richac | knosys: i'm just super paranoid don't mind me |
| 02:46.50 | richac | thats one of the things i love about debian |
| 02:47.12 | CCFL_Man | after removing xfce4, i |
| 02:47.51 | CCFL_Man | after removing xfce4, the display is not widescreen in ratpoison |
| 02:47.57 | knosys | richac: im a bit paranoic too. But sadly i dont know a lot of stuff of security |
| 02:48.05 | jmcnaught | rohanrhu: the command you listed above would create a private key that is encrypted with a passphrase. A command something like "openssl rsa -in currentKey.key -out unencryptedKey.key" might do the trick |
| 02:48.45 | knosys | really never interested in hacking or something like that.. Also never worried too much about security, just basics on webservers and so. not much further |
| 02:49.23 | richac | knosys: me neither, you think after getting hacked so much I would be though, but i'd always rather play video games. |
| 02:49.45 | richac | knosys: well your minimal install makes you more secure already, because of less attack surface |
| 02:49.55 | rohanrhu | jmcnaught: thank you im trying |
| 02:50.56 | richac | knosys: plus you are least likely to have spyware on debian install, more then most distros |
| 02:51.37 | knosys | anyway richac there is no value here haha |
| 02:51.58 | richac | knosys: most people just do it for kicks |
| 02:52.08 | knosys | kicks? |
| 02:52.11 | knosys | like, getting fun? |
| 02:52.13 | richac | ya |
| 02:52.22 | knosys | yeah i guess |
| 02:52.23 | richac | instead of video games |
| 02:52.31 | knosys | not bad :P |
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| 02:53.07 | tomivs | Hi |
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| 02:53.14 | tomivs | My multimedia keys not work |
| 02:53.32 | richac | knosys: i just dont' want anyone frying my pc, stealing my pics, or reading my messages lol |
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| 02:53.40 | richac | i don't have any money either |
| 02:53.47 | jen1049 | i uninstalled nautilus-dropbox, but dropbox is still installed on my computer. does anyone know how i can uninstall it? apt-get remove dropbox doesn't find any package by that name |
| 02:54.00 | knosys | richac: i understand |
| 02:54.07 | knosys | even then, i am poor even on that!! :D |
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| 02:55.23 | ifeelsick | @jen1049 nautilus-dropbox is just the nautilus extension for dropbox, not dropbox itself |
| 02:55.25 | knosys | i say that , because i dont use any chatting tool but this one, and i dont have facebook account. My mail accounts are just junk-boxes where i just login to get lost-passwords from other sites accounts |
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| 02:55.57 | knosys | thats what i use my email for... for registering accounts , when they force to register to see anything |
| 02:56.00 | knosys | xD |
| 02:56.10 | knosys | its like... non personal use of a personal computer |
| 02:56.13 | jhutchins_wk | jen1049: What do you see that's "still installed"? |
| 02:56.45 | ifeelsick | @jen1049 - https://www.dropbox.com/en/help/41 |
| 02:56.48 | jen1049 | jhutchins_wk: if i open dropbox from my menu it will open and run, so it's still installed somewhere |
| 02:57.03 | jmcnaught | according the the description of the nautilus-dropbox package it downloads the proprietary binary from dropbox.com |
| 02:57.06 | tomivs | Play/Pause/Next/Prev keys not work |
| 02:57.16 | richac | knosys: maybe someone else is using it then lol |
| 02:57.33 | tomivs | I use GNOME 3.4.2 |
| 02:57.41 | jen1049 | ifeelsick: that link is how to uninstall from windows... |
| 02:57.52 | knosys | i hope its not :P |
| 02:58.19 | richac | knosys: probably not |
| 02:58.35 | knosys | who know's.. would love to learn how to check that |
| 02:58.36 | ifeelsick | @jen1049 - top right, |
| 02:58.43 | knosys | do you know richac ? |
| 02:58.53 | ifeelsick | @jen1049 - "show instructions for 'linux'" |
| 02:59.00 | ifeelsick | or better still, "sudo apt-get remove dropbox; rm -rvf ~/.dropbox ~/.dropbox-dist" |
| 02:59.37 | ifeelsick-afk | bb |
| 02:59.41 | jen1049 | oh, ok |
| 02:59.47 | jen1049 | thank you |
| 03:00.11 | jen1049 | that's strange that i have to remove ~/.dropbox and ~/.dropbox-dist. how is it possible that a program was installed to my home directory? |
| 03:00.15 | jen1049 | that doesn't seem normal. |
| 03:00.55 | ifeelsick-afk | $ ps aux | grep dropbox and see what user is running it |
| 03:00.56 | ifeelsick-afk | bbs |
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| 03:01.48 | jen1049 | i know, it's my home directory. i'm just not used to a program being able to run from a user's home directory |
| 03:02.03 | jhutchins_wk | jen1049: locate dropbox |
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| 03:02.17 | jhutchins_wk | jen1049: open the item in the menu, see what the command is. |
| 03:02.29 | jhutchins_wk | jen1049: which dropbox (locate and which as root). |
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| 03:02.50 | jhutchins_wk | jen1049: Once you find a file, dpkg -s <path-to-file> |
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| 03:03.45 | jen1049 | it's /home/user/.dropboxdist/dropbox |
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| 03:08.17 | richac | knosys: i think i was just hacked haha |
| 03:11.00 | richac | knosys: i was playing a game on facebook and my whole pc froze up, i had to hit the power button |
| 03:11.32 | richac | happens alot with linux lol |
| 03:11.34 | knosys | when, just now? |
| 03:11.44 | richac | knosys: ya, right on cue, i was about to win too |
| 03:11.54 | knosys | lol and why you think you got hacked? |
| 03:12.03 | knosys | you are much more paranoic than i though :P |
| 03:12.09 | richac | knosys: everyone is hacked |
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| 03:13.21 | richac | its just a question of by who |
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| 03:17.40 | richac | knosys: imo, snowden did the world a disservice by distracting them, with "proof" of what they already assumed and knew, instead of telling the world what they don't know |
| 03:17.58 | richac | that prism is the only thing that seperates the NSA from your avg 15 yr old hacker nowadays lol |
| 03:18.31 | richac | and 9 times out of 10, someone is on your pc and it isn't the gov't. |
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| 03:28.22 | knosys | nkuttler: |
| 03:28.39 | knosys | Do you really think that lo profile has something to do? |
| 03:28.52 | knosys | with mysql problem? |
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| 03:31.51 | knosys | i think you just trolled me there ;D |
| 03:32.06 | knosys | because interfaces file "lo auto" , it should be allright |
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| 03:32.12 | knosys | you just dissapeared and let me here worried |
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| 03:33.37 | knosys | can someone help me to remove mysql-server? I can't! |
| 03:34.00 | richac | knosys: i actually had a problem with firefox hanging on right click menu and file menus. turns out it was because my localhost was labeled localhost.localdomain instead of just localhost |
| 03:34.03 | knosys | If i try to remove, installer starts again, then fails and end. Prompted again |
| 03:34.14 | richac | now why that would affect firefox is beyiond me lol |
| 03:34.15 | marioxcc | knosys: I have no idea about MySQL, but I suggest that you say what have you tried already and why it don't works |
| 03:34.52 | richac | knosys: is that something you installed or what came with the pc? |
| 03:35.04 | richac | knosys: if you purge it you will lose some things like software manager |
| 03:35.21 | richac | and you will have to make sure to "hold" packages you need so they don't get autoremoved |
| 03:35.29 | SexIsBad2TheBone | can somone help me find a better girlfriend? |
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| 03:36.00 | SexIsBad2TheBone | an uptade would be nice, any scource? |
| 03:36.03 | SexIsBad2TheBone | ;) |
| 03:36.03 | knosys | Ok marioxcc . I have tried: "sudo apt-get remove --purge mysq-server" "aptitude remove" , also reinstalling. There is no way. I cant remove it. And i cant start it. I cant start it and the error output is that "Cant find the socket". Socket file its not in /etc/run/mysql. |
| 03:36.25 | knosys | SexIsBad2TheBone: maybe update its too extreme, how about an upgrade? |
| 03:36.37 | SexIsBad2TheBone | y |
| 03:36.41 | knosys | upgrade + another chance |
| 03:36.43 | knosys | :D |
| 03:36.44 | SexIsBad2TheBone | bigger booms |
| 03:36.48 | knosys | lol |
| 03:37.01 | marioxcc | knosys: didn't you first a letter in âmysq>>>l<<<â? |
| 03:37.30 | knosys | oh yeah sorry. Im just typing it i failed |
| 03:37.43 | richac | knosys: you can remove it |
| 03:37.47 | knosys | but for sure thats not the problem, i would read the Terminal feedback |
| 03:37.49 | knosys | and correct that |
| 03:37.54 | richac | knosys: you only can't in mint and ubuntu lol |
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| 03:38.06 | richac | knosys: use software manager |
| 03:38.13 | knosys | richac: i cant remove mysql... |
| 03:38.16 | richac | knosys: but you will lose that too eventaully |
| 03:38.21 | richac | knosys: yes you can |
| 03:38.31 | knosys | uhm |
| 03:38.36 | knosys | with software manager then?= |
| 03:38.42 | richac | knosys: try that I guess |
| 03:39.07 | richac | knosys: i've done it myself so i know its possible |
| 03:39.10 | knosys | aptitude package manageR? |
| 03:39.21 | richac | knosys: no |
| 03:39.33 | richac | knosys: go in menu type software manager, or maybe you don't have it |
| 03:39.44 | richac | aptitude manager is pretty difficult to use |
| 03:40.53 | richac | i had debian kde, doubt it makes a diff though |
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| 03:44.33 | SexIsBad2TheBone | is a windows - linux migrator here? i think about change win 7 with debian, atm i run in VM and it worksd good |
| 03:44.49 | richac | SexIsBad2TheBone: i would stick with the way you are doing it |
| 03:45.14 | knosys | SexIsBad2TheBone: i am |
| 03:45.29 | knosys | i used windows always, and im using debian as the only OS since a month or so |
| 03:46.11 | SexIsBad2TheBone | u have sideffect or behaviour u miss? |
| 03:46.21 | richac | SexIsBad2TheBone: hell ya |
| 03:46.31 | richac | SexIsBad2TheBone: you mean besides inux crashing all the time and getting raped on me? |
| 03:46.40 | SexIsBad2TheBone | ohoh :( |
| 03:46.40 | knosys | completely recomended. Keep a little windows partition if you like games, or if you need to run some specific things that cant run through wine |
| 03:46.42 | richac | not havingh proper 5.1 volume controls in panel |
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| 03:46.48 | richac | not being able to playt he latest video games |
| 03:46.56 | knosys | but i have never loged to windows yet... since i installed debian, never loged back on win7 |
| 03:47.02 | knosys | so i recommend it to you... 100% |
| 03:47.22 | richac | not to mention security tools that aren't deprecated and abandoned |
| 03:47.34 | SexIsBad2TheBone | oh? |
| 03:47.42 | richac | SexIsBad2TheBone: everything about linux sucks |
| 03:47.50 | SexIsBad2TheBone | i thought debian is stable and secure |
| 03:48.03 | knosys | it just takes time and work, but i like it a lot |
| 03:48.07 | richac | ya if you don't do anything on it maybe |
| 03:48.12 | SexIsBad2TheBone | hehe |
| 03:48.25 | knosys | anything like what? |
| 03:48.42 | richac | install stuff? |
| 03:48.44 | richac | lmao |
| 03:48.49 | SexIsBad2TheBone | steam maybe? i tried to install it but not work :( |
| 03:48.59 | richac | install it on windows man |
| 03:49.05 | knosys | hahaha |
| 03:49.11 | SexIsBad2TheBone | i have but i want migrate |
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| 03:49.17 | richac | SexIsBad2TheBone: why? |
| 03:49.34 | knosys | SexIsBad2TheBone: if you feel like you want to try go ahead. Make dual boot , fair configuration for both OS |
| 03:49.36 | knosys | is what i did |
| 03:49.39 | richac | linux has a lack of hardware support, lack of software, lack of security |
| 03:49.49 | richac | its more stable, but hey do w/e you want |
| 03:49.57 | richac | *windows is more stable |
| 03:50.23 | richac | knosys: he is already using it in a vm, imo thats best |
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| 03:50.42 | knosys | its not the same |
| 03:50.44 | richac | i kind of regret installing linux to my hdd |
| 03:50.53 | SexIsBad2TheBone | hm y my windows runs scince 2 years stable thats truth but debian is dedicated to be server i expect same stbility too, noo? |
| 03:50.55 | richac | i shoult just be playing around on a vm |
| 03:50.57 | Simotek-Work- | richac, often not if you want a multi monitor setup, |
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| 03:51.10 | richac | SexIsBad2TheBone: not if you want to install anything on it |
| 03:51.31 | jmcnaught | knosys: hey sorry i was away from my keyboard for a bit. You definitely need a "lo" interface, it's what provides the "localhost" (127.0.0.1) address. Your "/etc/network/interfaces" file should contain two lines like this: "auto lo" and "iface lo inet loopback" |
| 03:51.38 | richac | SexIsBad2TheBone: yuo'll have to use it as a server then, def no games lol |
| 03:51.39 | Simotek-Work- | Yes SexIsBad2TheBone there is no reason why it wouldn't be more stable |
| 03:51.40 | SexIsBad2TheBone | i have 2 screens, works fine so far |
| 03:51.58 | Simotek-Work- | richac, i run a windows VM in my native linux occasionally |
| 03:52.06 | knosys | "auto lo" is there |
| 03:52.12 | richac | Simotek-Work-: i should be doing the opposite |
| 03:52.21 | knosys | sec |
| 03:52.34 | knosys | yes both lines there |
| 03:52.38 | richac | god my syslog is too big to read |
| 03:52.41 | richac | wow |
| 03:52.42 | Simotek-Work- | SexIsBad2TheBone, the 2 screens work better if you have linux installed navivaly normmaly |
| 03:52.51 | knosys | but man... thanks to you |
| 03:52.53 | knosys | i just discover |
| 03:52.55 | richac | SexIsBad2TheBone: they work even better on windows |
| 03:52.57 | knosys | i was wrong in the ip?? |
| 03:53.00 | richac | lmao |
| 03:53.02 | Simotek-Work- | richac, sounds like you need a linux vm to mess around with inside your stable linux box |
| 03:53.05 | knosys | how it changed... how is this possible |
| 03:53.10 | jmcnaught | knosys: it's quite curious why you don't have an IP address for lo then |
| 03:53.12 | richac | Simotek-Work-: inside windows you mean |
| 03:53.23 | richac | knosys: your local adapter? |
| 03:53.27 | richac | knosys: no clue its weird |
| 03:53.44 | knosys | aaahh no , ip its ok, i was just looking on my real machine, not in the WM lol |
| 03:53.48 | knosys | what a mess i am |
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| 03:54.10 | knosys | jmcnaught: then i check in the real machine, give me a momoent ill check interfaces file on the WM |
| 03:54.12 | knosys | VM* |
| 03:54.15 | Simotek-Work- | nah richac occasionally you may want to dual boot back to Windows to play a certain game that doesn't have Windows support but other then that Linux VM's inside your linux, then you can break them |
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| 03:54.49 | SexIsBad2TheBone | hm iam suprised, its not like the apple disciple follower fans, its more sceptic and facette. maybe linux guys are facing more reality then apple fans |
| 03:55.05 | richac | Simotek-Work-: ya play certain games, watch movies with proper sound, better firewall on win 7 |
| 03:55.22 | richac | why keep rebooting, when i can just play around with linux in a vm |
| 03:55.48 | Simotek-Work- | movies work fine for me on linux |
| 03:55.57 | richac | Simotek-Work-: i have 5.1 surround sound |
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| 03:56.17 | SexIsBad2TheBone | movies here too, smooth and loud. its perfect at this point |
| 03:56.22 | Simotek-Work- | but maybe debian isn't as good for that, i only ever watch movies on my openSUSE box |
| 03:56.23 | richac | also my windows has THX driver |
| 03:56.40 | richac | the only desktop that controls the volume from panel, without resetting all the levels to full, is cinnamion |
| 03:56.42 | knosys | jmcnaught: you were right man, in the HOST machine both lines were commented.. damn im ashamed |
| 03:56.51 | richac | gnome and KDE are broken |
| 03:57.18 | richac | i think none of the gnome or kde devs use surround sound or change their levels lol |
| 03:57.19 | jmcnaught | knosys: well it's good that you caught it. not having a loopback interface can cause all kinds of strange problems |
| 03:57.51 | knosys | even on my real machine? |
| 03:58.12 | richac | knosys: why would that be commented out? |
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| 03:58.31 | jmcnaught | knosys: yes a lot of software expects it to be there |
| 03:59.11 | knosys | ok man, thanks a lot for taking the time |
| 03:59.25 | richac | knosys: if you need a mail agent for local mail you can use dragonfly mail agent, which doesn't listen on lo |
| 03:59.31 | knosys | richac: because im really stupid, thats why |
| 03:59.45 | knosys | i commented that out, to simplify the file, since i didnt know what was lo. |
| 03:59.48 | richac | knosys: oh you commented it out, wasn't sure |
| 03:59.58 | knosys | and i just wanted a single connection to the router |
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| 04:00.36 | knosys | yes, wasnt debian fault |
| 04:00.39 | knosys | was user fault |
| 04:00.42 | knosys | so !! |
| 04:00.43 | richac | knosys: ya, well thats common sensical, no shame in that |
| 04:00.44 | knosys | :D |
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| 04:01.13 | knosys | =) |
| 04:01.26 | richac | knosys: the shame is in having no ptions i postix or sendmail or emix to not listen on local ports |
| 04:01.40 | CRCinAU | ok - so I've got my preseed working with a single partition for / as xvda1 using this: |
| 04:01.44 | CRCinAU | d-i partman-auto/expert_recipe root :: 500 10000 1000000 ext4 $primary{ } $bootable{ } method{ format } device{ /dev/xvda } format{ } use_filesystem{ } filesystem{ ext4 } mountpoint{ / } . |
| 04:01.54 | richac | knosys: you made me realize another point |
| 04:02.03 | richac | i wonder if anyone knows how to disable IGMP in linux? |
| 04:02.05 | CRCinAU | is there a way I can tell the installer to NOT create a partition and install directly to /dev/xvda instead of partitioning? |
| 04:02.12 | knosys | ;D and how it does receive emails then man? |
| 04:02.14 | richac | i can do it in windows with a simple terminal command.....what about in linux!?!?!? |
| 04:02.22 | richac | knosys: i only use it for root mail |
| 04:02.31 | richac | knosys: i use webmail for my personal emails |
| 04:02.47 | knosys | rootmail its like some log you make? |
| 04:02.58 | knosys | or applications you host or something like that? |
| 04:03.08 | richac | knosys: no in linux, many programs send alerts to the root mail |
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| 04:03.17 | knosys | ooh |
| 04:03.21 | richac | knosys: yes it is like a log i guess |
| 04:03.31 | knosys | nice |
| 04:03.35 | richac | its just important info, that program deems admin should know |
| 04:03.43 | richac | you can set up programs to mail you with cron |
| 04:04.04 | richac | my problem, is, why does a program, sending mail on the same machine, need to listen to any port |
| 04:04.17 | richac | i really don't care if its only the local adapter, that still is not common sense |
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| 04:04.31 | richac | and apparenlty, as programs like dma prove, its not nescessary at all to function |
| 04:04.34 | richac | so why then? |
| 04:04.41 | richac | that is the mystery |
| 04:04.48 | richac | another mystery is how to disable IGMP on linux haha |
| 04:05.13 | knosys | hey man thats unfair |
| 04:05.15 | richac | I'll give a cookie to anyone who can tell me how to disable IGMP on linux without recompiling the kernel |
| 04:05.19 | knosys | you are much better prepared than me |
| 04:05.22 | knosys | for this contest |
| 04:05.32 | richac | knosys: dude i'm hacked as we speak, .... |
| 04:05.41 | knosys | xDDD |
| 04:05.45 | knosys | ok , we are even |
| 04:06.00 | richac | knosys: businesses that work with data files |
| 04:06.02 | richac | are hacked for life |
| 04:06.05 | Simotek-Work- | richac how do you tell? |
| 04:06.09 | richac | knosys: hacked for life |
| 04:06.16 | richac | unless they want to throw away their lifes work |
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| 04:06.41 | richac | Simotek-Work-: well with this latest incident, i'm trying to check my logs |
| 04:06.43 | knosys | richac: once, i made a project in my house. And i hosted on localhost for several weeks, with PHP. And i started receiving lot of weird visit from a lot of countries |
| 04:06.46 | knosys | so i read about that |
| 04:06.47 | richac | but log is all fkd now |
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| 04:07.00 | knosys | and its automatic stuff, that has been running around for like 6 years |
| 04:07.03 | richac | knosys: well your no noob then are you? |
| 04:07.04 | richac | hahaha |
| 04:07.11 | richac | knosys: the avg person, gets 500 probes a day |
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| 04:07.23 | richac | the avg housemom sitting at home, who is not even a server, gets 500 probes a day on their router |
| 04:07.44 | knosys | yes, there are like infected servers |
| 04:07.50 | knosys | that try to infect other servers |
| 04:07.54 | knosys | checking php version |
| 04:07.57 | richac | knosys: could be anybody |
| 04:08.00 | knosys | and a lot of stuff.. im not very well documented |
| 04:08.03 | knosys | thats all i know really |
| 04:08.09 | richac | well right now we are getting probed like a mofo from freenode |
| 04:08.17 | richac | but we apparently agree to that |
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| 04:08.31 | knosys | from freenode? |
| 04:08.33 | richac | supposedly, its to protect themselves from ddos attacks.... |
| 04:08.35 | richac | knosys: yes |
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| 04:08.45 | knosys | uhm |
| 04:08.55 | CRCinAU | I've banned ~15 IPs from brute force attacks on my IMAP server in the last hour..... |
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| 04:09.05 | richac | CRCinAU: lol |
| 04:09.17 | knosys | weird, i wonder how could that help them with DDoS attacks |
| 04:09.30 | CRCinAU | iirc, my threshold for that is 5 incorrect passwords in an hour |
| 04:09.31 | CCFL_Man | ratpoison is nice |
| 04:09.43 | CRCinAU | after that, your IP gets blackholed for a week |
| 04:09.54 | knosys | really? |
| 04:10.02 | richac | i just wanna know what the heck happened to my syslog |
| 04:10.03 | knosys | i have lot of passwords, and i forget often |
| 04:10.08 | richac | its so big i can't open it or scroll through it |
| 04:10.12 | knosys | i would get banned from your site often probably ;D |
| 04:10.15 | CRCinAU | how many times does your mail client forget your password? |
| 04:10.18 | richac | and there is like a whole chuck in the middle missing, all blank lines |
| 04:10.24 | knosys | Oooh |
| 04:10.25 | richac | its flooded with noveau |
| 04:10.28 | knosys | thats different |
| 04:10.43 | knosys | my client is prodigious, he never forgets |
| 04:10.49 | knosys | my mail client |
| 04:10.55 | richac | i don't use mail clients anymore |
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| 04:11.05 | knosys | why? |
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| 04:11.10 | CCFL_Man | still uses alpine |
| 04:11.15 | richac | knosys: i feel its a security risk |
| 04:11.18 | knosys | im just using it to stop login on different places all the time |
| 04:11.25 | knosys | oh yeah of course :D |
| 04:11.32 | knosys | and its probably |
| 04:11.33 | CCFL_Man | richac: i suppose there are some great web mail clients out there |
| 04:11.42 | richac | CCFL_Man: not really |
| 04:11.42 | CRCinAU | I'm lame, I just use thunderbird. |
| 04:12.01 | richac | just ever since i read about how code can execute between the lines in your email from just opening it, i'm like errr |
| 04:12.06 | CCFL_Man | richac: squirrel mail? |
| 04:12.17 | richac | not to mention at least if a file has a virus in it, its on the web mail server not downloaded to mine |
| 04:12.34 | richac | but MITM is real....lol |
| 04:12.50 | richac | but i'd rather they read my mail, then virus me so easily |
| 04:13.20 | richac | i can't even read the dam log, i can't believe this |
| 04:14.37 | CRCinAU | man, preseed is annoying :P |
| 04:14.42 | CRCinAU | especially when I can't find what I want..... |
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| 04:15.10 | richac | ya its really nice having all these linus logs, when they can just get corrupted |
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| 04:15.27 | richac | its true though, someone in the security mentioned, a file integrity program, can't tell where a file is changed |
| 04:15.34 | richac | sicne it only goes on hashes, i would have to make the logs, append only |
| 04:15.42 | Dewi | richac: that's true of any network connected software, it needs to be secure against remote execution vulns |
| 04:15.44 | richac | but when i tried setting that on the files, it causes way too many issues |
| 04:16.17 | knosys | guys there was a command in debian to change root password |
| 04:16.20 | knosys | it was mysqladmin? |
| 04:16.24 | knosys | or something like that? |
| 04:16.31 | richac | Dewi: ya thats why i use dma instead......i have apparmor on most stuff |
| 04:16.42 | richac | knosys: huh? |
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| 04:16.57 | Dewi | knosys: do you mean mysql's root password or the system's? |
| 04:16.59 | knosys | sorry, to change mysql root account password |
| 04:17.04 | richac | oh |
| 04:17.28 | richac | Dewi: i compiled a kernel with grsecurity, and using apparmor on most things, even mysql process |
| 04:18.08 | richac | Dewi: my problem right now is i can't read the syslog |
| 04:18.23 | richac | i saw a message about xorg when i ctrl alt f1, which was also hanging |
| 04:18.26 | richac | and now i can't find it |
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| 04:18.52 | richac | my whole log got flooded with noveau messages |
| 04:18.57 | richac | and a bit chunk of it is all blank |
| 04:19.41 | Dewi | richac: maybe it rotated |
| 04:19.55 | richac | i was thinking that, i mean i grep' |
| 04:20.01 | richac | d every file i can't find the dam message about xorg |
| 04:20.20 | richac | i'm a linux noob too, but i mean when you type dmesg from root in terminal |
| 04:20.24 | richac | isn't those same messages in syslog? |
| 04:20.33 | Dewi | don't think so |
| 04:20.40 | Dewi | and dmesg is a limited size kernel buffer |
| 04:20.50 | richac | when i cat /var/log/dmesg will it show me the same info? |
| 04:20.55 | richac | because i'm missing it |
| 04:20.59 | richac | i'm missing the info |
| 04:21.03 | knosys | jmcnaught: officialy i can say it fixed the mysql problem, thanks again |
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| 04:21.23 | Dewi | richac: don't know, sorry |
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| 04:21.35 | Dewi | richac: just wait until it happens again? |
| 04:21.38 | richac | Dewi: i don't know what to say either |
| 04:21.41 | richac | Dewi: hahah |
| 04:21.49 | jmcnaught | knosys: sweet. as for resetting the mysql root password i think you can just use dpkg-reconfigure on the package. i'm going to try it out |
| 04:21.50 | richac | Dewi: i' reformatting |
| 04:22.00 | richac | for the 6th time this month |
| 04:22.10 | knosys | wait ill try right now i can tell you |
| 04:22.22 | Dewi | richac: if xorg is broken, try running it again, it should generate the message again? |
| 04:22.30 | richac | Dewi: its not broken |
| 04:22.35 | Dewi | so what's the issue? |
| 04:22.39 | richac | but osmething broke it temporarliy which is what i'm trying to figure out |
| 04:22.43 | Dewi | intermittent hangs? |
| 04:22.46 | richac | i was talking to knosys and my whole pc froze |
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| 04:22.58 | richac | no it sthe first time it did that, been running this system for like 2 weeks now |
| 04:23.07 | richac | didn't change anything in it |
| 04:23.16 | richac | i was playing a facebook game though |
| 04:23.53 | richac | i did ctrl alt f1, and managed to see some messages, before that froze too |
| 04:23.57 | richac | and i had to hard power off |
| 04:24.10 | richac | my syslog has like 1000 lines of noveau error |
| 04:24.35 | knosys | yay worked jmcnaught thanks again |
| 04:24.37 | richac | or how knows, its too big to open up with any editor, i had to open it in termainl |
| 04:24.45 | jmcnaught | blam |
| 04:24.57 | richac | nouveau E[ PGRAPH][0000:01:00.0] TRAP ch 4 [0x003f8a7000 kwin[2522]] |
| 04:25.05 | richac | PGRAPH][0000:01:00.0] GPC1/PROP trap: ZETA_STORAGE_TYPE_MISMATCH |
| 04:25.14 | richac | there is info i'm missing though |
| 04:25.21 | richac | like the message about xorg |
| 04:25.26 | richac | which ic an't find in any logs |
| 04:25.44 | richac | GPC1/TPC0/MP trap: MULTIPLE_WARP_ERRORS GPR_OUT_OF_BOUNDS |
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| 04:29.03 | richac | for some reason, i swear, the dmesg log file, does not log all that you will see when typing dmesg in terminal at the time |
| 04:29.14 | richac | thats why i thought the info would be in syslog file |
| 04:30.42 | richac | haha its 387 mbs long |
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| 04:30.58 | richac | holy $#@! |
| 04:31.31 | richac | i'm using noveau because i figured it is more secure then the proprietary drivers, which I then i have to turn off alot of grsec protections for |
| 04:31.49 | richac | 387 mbs....what in the...... |
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| 04:32.47 | richac | I think when I do cat and grep on it.....its not even reading the whole file |
| 04:32.49 | richac | its fkd |
| 04:32.59 | richac | alot of good that log file does....... |
| 04:33.52 | richac | i found it! ouveau E[Xorg[1428]] failed to idle channel 0xcccc0000 [Xorg[1428]] |
| 04:34.17 | richac | I think i might know what the problem is now. |
| 04:34.29 | richac | my question is though, why would that affect the tty? |
| 04:35.15 | richac | maybe I don't really understand what xorg is |
| 04:35.26 | richac | i thought it only had to do with the graphical desktop |
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| 04:39.22 | Simotek-Work- | richac, Xorg connects your graphical desktop to your display driver (noveau) |
| 04:39.39 | richac | Simotek-Work-: right so why would it hang on the tty then? |
| 04:39.51 | richac | when i hit ctrl alt f1, that then froze too after a few mins |
| 04:40.12 | Simotek-Work- | it also performs alot of the backend stuff the graphical desktop uses |
| 04:40.17 | LinusTorvaldII | can i install uninty in debian |
| 04:40.25 | LinusTorvaldII | unity* |
| 04:40.30 | aicra_ | shoot me |
| 04:40.32 | aicra_ | Now |
| 04:41.17 | aicra_ | The bridge by my house is too short |
| 04:41.42 | Simotek-Work- | richac, how are you running it? It could have got into a deadlock, or your graphics driver could be looping infinitely and xorg is sitting there waiting for a response from it |
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| 04:42.00 | richac | ya i posted the error messages |
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| 04:42.28 | Simotek-Work- | i'm guessing xorg output is just being printed to your tty or ctrl alt F1, as it takes no user input |
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| 04:43.19 | richac | Simotek-Work-: my syslog file is 387 mbs big now |
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| 04:43.33 | richac | i can't even view it properly, and i don't think grep is working right either |
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| 04:44.25 | Simotek-Work- | richac have you looked at the first few entries in google if you search that yet |
| 04:44.43 | richac | Simotek-Work-: the noveau error messages? i tried googling the first one no results |
| 04:44.59 | Simotek-Work- | https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-lts-raring/+bug/1097178 |
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| 04:45.06 | Simotek-Work- | https://www.google.com.au/search?q=E[Xorg[1428]]+failed+to+idle+channel+0xcccc0000+[Xorg[1428]]&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=fflb&gfe_rd=cr&ei=V81NVMPuEuLC8geR0YBo |
| 04:45.17 | Simotek-Work- | seems to indicate its a driver bug / error in the kernel |
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| 04:45.43 | richac | Simotek-Work-: well i think i know what happened, it was grsec |
| 04:45.51 | richac | but what i want to know is, what was going on prior to that |
| 04:45.56 | richac | and i can't even open up the dam log |
| 04:46.45 | richac | let me try libre office lol |
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| 04:47.43 | jmcnaught | LinusTorvaldII: as far as i know Unity is not packaged for Debian (most likely due to nobody being interested or motivated enough to do it). It could be installed from non-Debian sources, but unfortunately it wouldn't be supported here |
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| 04:48.15 | richac | neither is cinnamon apparenlty |
| 04:49.16 | richac | well the libre progress bar got to the end of the file |
| 04:49.20 | richac | and now its just hanging there lmao |
| 04:49.32 | richac | a 387mb text file is too much for it to handle I guess |
| 04:49.40 | richac | what a joke.... |
| 04:49.42 | jmcnaught | richac: have you tried just using less? |
| 04:49.59 | Simotek-Work- | Unity requires patched versions of a lot of common system libraries, making it quite hard to package on non ubuntu systems |
| 04:50.00 | richac | oh let me try |
| 04:50.33 | Simotek-Work- | richac, why are you trying libre office instead of a lightweight text editor |
| 04:50.44 | richac | Simotek-Work-: beause they didn't work either, |
| 04:50.46 | jmcnaught | LinusTorvaldII: if you like Unity you might like gnome-shell |
| 04:51.22 | richac | i was only able to open and scroll it in terminal |
| 04:51.59 | richac | but its over 380mbs big for some weird reason, i guess all the noveau loops. I was able to grep for it, but that doesn't show me everything else around those entries |
| 04:52.27 | richac | i'll try less |
| 04:52.50 | jmcnaught | richac: use '/' to search in less |
| 04:53.12 | richac | yes just did that, tks jm that works great |
| 04:53.21 | shay_shay | there is a developer who was porting unity for things, he would be the expert on it |
| 04:53.31 | richac | oh wait dam. how come after i search, i can't then scroll around it |
| 04:53.33 | richac | ugh |
| 04:53.50 | richac | i got the Xorg message i wanted, but I thought i would be able to then scroll up above that |
| 04:53.57 | CRCinAU | ok - semi simple question..... using preseed.... How can I get the installer to just use a set partition as / instead of touching anything or repartitioning? |
| 04:53.59 | richac | oh DOH! |
| 04:54.03 | jmcnaught | dpkg: tell richac -about enter |
| 04:54.03 | richac | all i had to do was then delete the / |
| 04:54.20 | shay_shay | \https://github.com/chenxiaolong |
| 04:54.25 | richac | ohhh interesting.....grsec wasn't the cause hmm |
| 04:56.00 | jmcnaught | richac: if you needed to restart the computer what i would look for is where the entries for the most recent boot start, then look above that for clues about the crash |
| 04:57.25 | jmcnaught | richac: if you suspect that xorg was involved, another place to look would be /var/log/Xorg.1.log (Xorg.0.log would be the current session) and also ~/.xsession-errors |
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| 04:59.02 | richac | hmm interesting i see a cron job before the noveau errors for the mail agent. can't imagine that would be cause |
| 04:59.27 | jmcnaught | richac: also i wouldn't rule out grsecurity. I don't use it and am not that familiar with it, but it's also not that common to use with Debian especially on a desktop machine. If the problem keeps happening I would definitely use a stock Debian kernel for a while to see if that clears it up. |
| 04:59.28 | richac | i thought it was the grsec and Xorg error, but that is way after noveau already started looping |
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| 04:59.49 | richac | jmcnaught: its never happened before |
| 05:00.10 | richac | i thought it was grsec too, but i actually don't think it is now |
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| 05:00.49 | richac | grsec only stopped xorg, way after these noveau errors, and the only thing i see before that is a cron job |
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| 05:05.15 | Simotek-Work- | richac, which kernel version? |
| 05:05.25 | richac | 3.14.21 |
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| 05:06.06 | richac | its weird there is nothing before noveau freaking out exept a cron job |
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| 05:07.05 | richac | maybe it is something else with the kernel, I dunno, its never happened before, but then again i dn't remembe rplaying any facebook games in the past week or two till today |
| 05:07.35 | richac | i expecte to see like apparmor or grsec or something else beforehand |
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| 05:07.43 | richac | theres nothing |
| 05:07.59 | richac | and the xorg message is way way later |
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| 05:09.03 | Froolap | How do I change the font during the boot process? When I first power on the machine grub presents a menu in a nice readable font.Shortly afterwards it switches to a micro font which is unreadable until it reads what I set in /etc/default/console-setup and it becomes readable again. |
| 05:09.06 | richac | i know what it could be, the DRM module |
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| 05:10.25 | Simotek-Work- | do you need the DRM module? |
| 05:11.07 | richac | Simotek-Work-: i don't even know what it is man |
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| 05:11.16 | richac | all i know is it has bad taint, not creating trace events |
| 05:11.47 | Simotek-Work- | as far as i know its only used by wayland |
| 05:11.53 | Simotek-Work- | i could be wrong |
| 05:12.03 | richac | do you think that could be an issue with noveau/ |
| 05:12.25 | Simotek-Work- | seems likely |
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| 05:24.33 | richac1 | wwell that was weird |
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| 05:33.27 | richac1 | its pissing me off I don't know why noveau crashed |
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| 06:11.47 | richac | I think i have to give up on linux |
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| 06:24.51 | Simotek-Work- | well richac if it happened on Windows you'd just get a blue screen of death |
| 06:25.15 | Simotek-Work- | and on windows you'd be forced to use the proprietory driver so you could just try it on linux |
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| 06:26.17 | richac | Simotek-Work-: in only got one bsod on my windows 7 in 3 years |
| 06:26.35 | richac | Simotek-Work-: i think its something with kernel like you said. |
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| 06:26.50 | richac | i'm going to try and compile another one |
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| 06:27.21 | richac | I used apt to get a kernel source this time instead of kernel.org |
| 06:28.11 | richac | i have a feeling it won't make a diff. |
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| 06:29.12 | richac | i just realized i have a couple tainted modules. I have no idea why. |
| 06:29.20 | Simotek-Work- | has never seen the need to compile his own kernel |
| 06:29.32 | richac | i guess i don't have the keys for them? i dunno |
| 06:29.46 | richac | Simotek-Work-: i'm compiling it to add grsec |
| 06:30.18 | richac | i mean i don't know what I'm doing wrong here, if they are unsigned and I don't have keys |
| 06:30.42 | Simotek-Work- | what you probably want is kernel sources with all debians kernel patches applied |
| 06:31.13 | richac | Simotek-Work-: ya so thats why I used apt-get to obtain the source this time instead of kernel.org website |
| 06:31.40 | richac | so i'm using same version too, i'll see what happens tomorrow |
| 06:32.16 | richac | this is not my day |
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| 06:33.45 | richac | comes with these folder debian and debian.master |
| 06:34.03 | richac | i have no idea what they are for lmao |
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| 06:35.35 | richac | i guess i copy the .config out of that folder |
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| 06:37.08 | richac | Simotek-Work-: I don't think people in the #kernel room every compile kernels either haha |
| 06:37.15 | richac | *ever |
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| 06:41.44 | richac | i mean whats the point of using linux if i'm not going to harden it? |
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| 06:42.51 | richac | i'm not a developer, so what would be the point then? |
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| 06:46.17 | Simotek-Work- | i find it more reliable in its default config |
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| 06:46.28 | Simotek-Work- | and its kinda fun to tinker with |
| 06:46.28 | richac | reliable meaning stable? |
| 06:46.33 | Simotek-Work- | yeah |
| 06:46.45 | richac | i disagree, it is fun to tinker with though |
| 06:46.57 | richac | which is why i think i should of just been doing this in a vm |
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| 06:47.58 | Simotek-Work- | i have a 6 year old laptop that wouldn't run windows well at all, but with the right desktop enviornment is quite responsive with linux |
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| 06:48.12 | richac | Simotek-Work-: yes, thats actually the main reason i'm learning linux right now |
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| 06:48.33 | richac | well i've used linux off and on past few years....but recenlty i installed lxde on some old laptops for my family |
| 06:48.47 | richac | so i felt I should use linux too to stay up to date |
| 06:49.18 | Simotek-Work- | Multiple workspace's is the main reason id still use linux over windows for anything more then gaming an |
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| 06:50.25 | richac | sure doesn't feel too secure to me though, i guess if I found some comfort in the fact most malware is made for windows, or if I lied to myself and said i'd never be targeted. but besides that, i might as well put a target on my forehead haha |
| 06:50.50 | Simotek-Work- | what makes you think its less secure then windows by default |
| 06:51.06 | richac | on default? really? |
| 06:51.22 | richac | well for one, the only distro that has a firewall automatically on is fedora |
| 06:51.39 | Simotek-Work- | normally i don't have my machine running any services to the outside world |
| 06:51.40 | richac | that says it all right there man |
| 06:51.52 | richac | Simotek-Work-: ya thats good practie |
| 06:52.09 | Simotek-Work- | openSUSE lets you enable it in the installer |
| 06:52.25 | richac | i never saw that option, i had to enable it manually on suse |
| 06:52.36 | richac | they have their own firewall like fedora too, didn't really test it though |
| 06:52.51 | richac | called susefirewall or something |
| 06:52.56 | Simotek-Work- | i don't have it enabled here, because my PC sits behind a corporate firewall and it gets in the way of developing across the network |
| 06:53.20 | richac | Simotek-Work-: well at the rate they are hacking corporations nowadays, i'm sure you don't need one /sarcasm |
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| 06:53.56 | Simotek-Work- | If i was going to have something internet facing i'd probably have it on a VM and have it completely locked down apart from the services it should run |
| 06:54.05 | Simotek-Work- | doing that gets in the way on a everyday machine |
| 06:54.19 | pessoa | there's no need for desktop environments, anyways |
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| 06:54.41 | Simotek-Work- | richac, if they make it through onto the corporate network here there are far easier targets then my machine |
| 06:55.23 | richac | i'm just saying, i never bougt the theory you shouldn't still use a software firewall |
| 06:56.16 | Simotek-Work- | its the first thing i turn off on the rare occasion i do a win install |
| 06:56.28 | richac | the firewall? |
| 06:56.34 | Simotek-Work- | yep |
| 06:56.41 | richac | well there ya have it man |
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| 06:57.13 | richac | i mean its no wonder everyone is hacked so easily nowaday |
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| 06:58.11 | richac | so the first thing you do is shut off the firewall lol |
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| 06:58.31 | Simotek-Work- | the second thing i do is install steam, then the PC is setup |
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| 06:58.43 | richac | then you install steam? |
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| 06:58.55 | richac | as in the gaming platform? |
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| 06:59.16 | Simotek-Work- | yep, i only use windows for gaming, i may install a better browser + adblock plus but thats about it |
| 06:59.32 | richac | so you shut off your firewall, and then do one of the most dangerous things on a pc, online gaming |
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| 06:59.39 | richac | interesting lol |
| 07:00.06 | Simotek-Work- | i very rarly game online |
| 07:00.19 | richac | you install steam |
| 07:00.26 | richac | your online even with offline games |
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| 07:01.00 | richac | Simotek-Work-: http://hardenwindows7forsecurity.com/Harden%20Windows%207%20Home%20Premium%2064bit%20-%20Standalone.html |
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| 07:01.24 | richac | Simotek-Work-: thats a great guide, only thing I would add to that is disabling admin shares |
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| 07:01.45 | richac | I'm still trying to figure out how to disable IGMP in linux |
| 07:02.01 | richac | i don't think its possible without recompiling the kernel..... |
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| 07:02.29 | richac | Simotek-Work-: i do all of that and in the gets in the way of nothing |
| 07:02.55 | richac | plus i use windows 8 firewall control from sphinx which is a second firewall layer |
| 07:03.09 | richac | and peerblock, now peerblock will get in the way, its only for the sadistic |
| 07:03.19 | richac | i use pgl on linux |
| 07:03.21 | Simotek-Work- | when i do bother setting up filesharing in windows i only allow shares to be accessed from a separate user i create that doesn't have grapical login permissions |
| 07:03.54 | richac | so what does that mean? |
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| 07:04.32 | richac | well don't use that guide then cause you won't have any file sharing |
| 07:05.02 | Simotek-Work- | well thats one thing that it would get in the way of then |
| 07:05.45 | richac | i've use samba and basic windows file sharing, but ya i don't bother with that anymore |
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| 07:05.55 | richac | i'll put it on a usb lol |
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| 07:06.08 | richac | well i mean, just don't disable netbios then I guess |
| 07:06.35 | richac | don't disable port 9100 if using a network printer |
| 07:06.52 | richac | you can still disable IGMP, which would be a nice option in linux lmao |
| 07:07.26 | richac | i mean your using linux dude, your already getting in the way of yourself hahah |
| 07:07.35 | richac | windows is actually easier? |
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| 07:08.28 | Simotek-Work- | i only ever use the file sharing to stream stuff to my tablet and phone, i don't have a dedicated always on linux box at home, just laptops |
| 07:08.49 | Simotek-Work- | and i always use the advanced file sharing not the basic |
| 07:08.56 | richac | oh you use windows at home |
| 07:09.11 | Simotek-Work- | anyway we are far off topic, |
| 07:09.26 | richac | ok well that makes sense then i was starting to wonder |
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| 07:09.49 | Simotek-Work- | only on my desktop PC thats plugged into my TV for gaming, Skyrim isn't avalible on linux |
| 07:09.57 | richac | Simotek-Work-: i would take a look at that guide man |
| 07:10.00 | Simotek-Work- | My laptops all run Linux |
| 07:10.10 | richac | yes beacuse they are old, so do the ones in my house |
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| 07:11.19 | richac | here is the linux guide equivalent. (they added shellshock in there lol) http://hardenubuntu.com/ |
| 07:11.34 | Simotek-Work- | richac when i buy a new laptop it will still run Linux |
| 07:11.51 | Dreamix | cheers 4 you |
| 07:11.54 | richac | Simotek-Work-: mine sure as hell won't |
| 07:12.09 | richac | talk about getting in the way lol |
| 07:12.30 | Simotek-Work- | Well as someone who does linux packaging, its far easier to do that on Linxu |
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| 07:13.17 | richac | why is it linux guys only think servers are targeted. its funny, you can take alot of tips out of the windows guide, an add them to that ubuntu guide |
| 07:13.55 | richac | those two guides are the best for each imo. |
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| 07:16.14 | Simotek-Work- | well richac if i don't have any ports listening for anything on my machine what are the hackers going to hit? |
| 07:16.33 | Simotek-Work- | or any applications listening on ports anyway |
| 07:16.41 | richac | its funny comparing them both, the windows guide, is for an everyday home user, the ubuntu guide is lacking and seems geared for servers. |
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| 07:16.55 | richac | still very helpful though |
| 07:17.13 | richac | Simotek-Work-: what are you talking about no ports listening |
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| 07:17.34 | richac | on your windows? |
| 07:17.39 | Simotek-Work- | no Linux |
| 07:17.46 | richac | oh |
| 07:18.12 | richac | not even ntp? |
| 07:18.29 | richac | with the shellshock thing i wouldn't use dhclient either |
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| 07:18.47 | richac | i disable most services also |
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| 07:19.09 | richac | but I mean you have an open port with your irc client right now |
| 07:19.22 | richac | do you filter outgoing too? |
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| 07:20.31 | richac | i have gotten hacked through aim before on windows lol |
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| 07:20.41 | MarvelDigital | is there a way to get counter strike working without having to upgrade to jessie to use steam? |
| 07:20.51 | richac | first thing I did on linux was apparmor pidgin |
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| 07:21.54 | richac | ironically i could only find public profiles for xchat or pidgin. the two most vulnerable irc clients by far |
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| 07:43.10 | Lope | I boot off a USB 128GB SSD, and I backup that onto a 500GB USB HDD using rsync. But there is a lot of space on the 500GB drive that I could use for backups etc, so I want to move the linux install on the 500GB drive into a subdirectory, and then reinstall grub. Would that work? |
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| 07:45.31 | Lope | so then I could potentially even have multiple linux installs on the 500GB drive? each in a different directory? |
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| 08:05.58 | dracc | Lope, it would probably be easier for you to use different partitions on that 500gb drive. :) |
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| 08:06.03 | dracc | GB* |
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| 08:06.57 | Lope | dracc: yeah I figured :) |
| 08:07.08 | Lope | I've got a 128GB SSD drive that is backed up onto a 500GB with rsync. I want to shrink the 500GB ext4 primary partition on the backup drive down to 128GB and then rsync again to check that the backup is okay. Would that work? |
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| 08:21.37 | funfunctor | anyone got any idea why under Debian Wheezy the serial port wont work yet it shows up fine under dmesg and setserial with the correct io addr and irq as is in the uefi bios? |
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| 08:39.07 | paradigmarson | Hi, nm-applet and nmcli aren't working. Looks like wrong versions are installed? http://pastebin.com/Rw22s21j |
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| 08:40.49 | venkat_330 | Getting partition boundary error when using GPARTED: http://pastebin.com/gxKHaGZj |
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| 08:46.27 | metallic | hello |
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| 08:55.34 | Lope | is it worth installing fail2ban for my SSH server? |
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| 08:57.57 | busch | Lope: If the ssh service is worldwide accessable and you have no firewall: Yes |
| 08:59.27 | KidCartouche | +1 to busch |
| 08:59.48 | Stummi | I am not a big friend of the Idea of a log pattern based ban mechanism |
| 09:00.07 | Stummi | This sounds prone to some injection for me |
| 09:01.06 | Stummi | Lope, if your ssh access is secure, the only benefit is having less traffic from these botnets |
| 09:01.09 | Lope | busy partitioning one of my disks. I'm thinking it's a good idea have an empty 9GB partition for testing new distros? |
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| 09:01.52 | awesomesauce | @Lope I'd go with 15GB |
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| 09:02.26 | Lope | awesomesauce: Do distros need that much? |
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| 09:02.37 | Lope | most distros I install only want 8gb |
| 09:02.56 | Stummi | depends on what you want to install within your distro |
| 09:02.57 | awesomesauce | Lope: I've run out with testing on 10gb |
| 09:03.07 | Lope | awesomesauce: But I suppose I can afford 15GB. it's a 500GB drive. |
| 09:03.08 | Stummi | a plain minimal debian is a few hundret MB |
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| 09:03.17 | Lope | cool, I might thank you in future ;) |
| 09:03.21 | Stummi | *hundred |
| 09:03.30 | awesomesauce | I think 15GB is safe, especially if you load something like latex |
| 09:03.34 | Lope | Stummi: exactly. But I'd be testing desktop OS's too. |
| 09:03.44 | Lope | whats latex? |
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| 09:04.04 | Stummi | Lope, or set up an LVM and don't use up your whole disk on the initial partitioning. So you can add more space to partitions when you need it |
| 09:04.05 | awesomesauce | anyone know the command for irssi to only show messages not connection prompts |
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| 09:04.29 | Lope | stummi: not a bad idea. |
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| 09:05.07 | awesomesauce | Stummi: I though the same thing, but I did Encrypted virtual partitions, only to find out it is really hard to resize encrypted partitions (it's a laptop) |
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| 09:06.02 | Stummi | awesomesauce, I don't think this is that hard. |
| 09:06.04 | d0x | Hi, is it possible to get a software wifi driver? I have a software that just works if you pc has a wlan adapter |
| 09:06.23 | Stummi | IIRC encryptet containers don't even have some size information, so you can just resize it without the need of reconfigure anything |
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| 09:07.24 | awesomesauce | Stummi: resizing when not encrypted is not hard at all, but in an encrypted volume, very hard. |
| 09:07.33 | Stummi | why? |
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| 09:07.58 | awesomesauce | Because it has to be done entirely with command line prompts |
| 09:08.04 | awesomesauce | command line commands |
| 09:08.35 | awesomesauce | no GUI like Gparted understands how to open a LUKS encrypted virtual partition |
| 09:08.36 | Stummi | yeah, but you don't even have to resize your crypt container |
| 09:08.50 | Stummi | only the device under your crypt container and then the FS above it |
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| 09:09.05 | Stummi | and using CLI is not that hard |
| 09:09.37 | awesomesauce | I don't know about you, but I am terrified of screwing something up with a bad command, whereas it is harder to do in a GUI that specializes in making it more difficult to delete your whole partition |
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| 09:10.11 | awesomesauce | well this would be easier if I knew the command in irssi to only show messages |
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| 09:11.28 | Stummi | IMHO gparted makes it easier to screw up since it forces you to be runned as root even when your user rights would suffice to alter the device you want to change |
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| 09:12.43 | awesomesauce | that is true, Running as root to resize a non system disk is not really necessary |
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| 09:22.13 | paradigmarson | Hi, nm-applet and nmcli aren't working. http://pastebin.com/Rw22s21j |
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| 09:24.48 | paradigmarson | Odd, 'dpkg-reconfigure network-manager' has just sorted the problem. I wonder what that was about... |
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| 09:31.35 | gribouille | hi |
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| 09:35.01 | gribouille | I have postgresql-9.3 and postgresql-9.4 on my system. how can I choose which one to start? |
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| 09:40.33 | Dreamix | gribouille: deal with chkconfig |
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| 09:41.45 | Dreamix | i personally use chkconfig (redhat way for managing the services) in debian |
| 09:42.01 | Dreamix | and ii works well |
| 09:42.22 | nido | how would I get a list of all packages that depend on $foo? |
| 09:43.03 | Dreamix | gribouille: otherwise you can remove the one postgresql version you don't use |
| 09:43.25 | bw_ | gribouille: pg_ctlcluster |
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| 09:45.16 | heurist` | nido: apt-cache rdepends $foo or apt-cache showpkg $foo |
| 09:45.27 | nido | heurist`: thank you |
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| 09:48.33 | grzeslaw | Hi, I'm searching for some documentation how to chroot mysql in debian wheezy, but I am unable to find it.. can someone recommend me some dosc>? |
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| 09:59.30 | petn-randall | Hi grzeslaw, what do you want to achieve with that? |
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| 10:00.54 | xrubbit | #flood instead |
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| 10:06.21 | ws2k3 | could this be a wrong keyboard layout setting maby ? |
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| 10:12.43 | tytan | Can I use "dd" to create a bootable Windows 7 thumb drive? |
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| 10:14.00 | eptalon | hello there. |
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| 10:14.22 | eptalon | Does the debian installer/updater expect an executable /tmp? |
| 10:15.24 | tytan | eptalon: As far as I know it doesn't. I installed it on a thumb drive with / only on a thumb drive ^^ |
| 10:15.46 | heurist` | tytan: Windows ISOs are not capable of that. the ISO needs to be build as hybrid ISO by the manufacturer, and MS do not do that. they expect you to use their tools. |
| 10:15.54 | Mathisen | quick question what is the smartest way to make my debian machine update automaticly 1 time per week ? should i just use crontab ? |
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| 10:16.28 | tytan | Mathisen: Write a bash script and put it as a routine in your filesystem. |
| 10:16.56 | heurist` | Mathisen: apt-get install cron-apt |
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| 10:17.19 | tytan | heurist`: Thatns, dude :) |
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| 10:19.12 | dark_b | hi people, I want to use an old pc for supplying my switch with internet via eth0 from one side and connect to my router via usb wlan stick on the other side. Now I don't know the terminology in order to start googling around. Maybe someone could tell me for what terminology to google for? |
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| 10:20.51 | tytan | dark_b: Search for "ubuntu hotspot" then you get how to share an ethernet connection via wlan. perhaps it works the same reversed :D |
| 10:22.13 | tytan | or even better ... "linux mint hotspot" since they have a debian release it could help a lot. |
| 10:22.20 | petn-randall | tytan: You could, if the Windows 7 image supports that. Though a simple 'cp' onto the drive would work just as good. |
| 10:23.45 | tytan | petn-randall: I guess I'll start Windown 7 in VirtualBox and use the "Windows 7 USB/DVD Download Tool" |
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| 11:08.08 | afidegnum | hello, pls have noticed openjdk is installed on my server but I don't know the app I used. how do I remove it ? |
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| 11:16.15 | obsed | i remember coverity running its scan on debian userland programs |
| 11:16.23 | obsed | http://lcamtuf.blogspot.fr/2014/10/psa-dont-run-strings-on-untrusted-files.html |
| 11:16.33 | obsed | ppl who run `strings` on untrusted binaries could be in trouble too |
| 11:16.38 | obsed | </bored> lol |
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| 11:27.14 | anonnumberanon | Is Dwarf Fortress in the free repo of Debian Stable? |
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| 11:39.29 | cjdavies | Having an issue updating mysql on a stable install, can anybody see the issue? http://paste2.org/xHgfZJDF |
| 11:39.58 | cjdavies | This is a very generic/stock debian stable + lamp install, nothing unusual at all |
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| 11:41.03 | heurist` | cjdavies: it appears to be having trouble stopping mysql. try manually stopping it before doing the upgrade. |
| 11:42.40 | cjdavies | heurist`: I actually can't stop mysql... /etc/init.d/mysql stop fails? |
| 11:42.56 | cjdavies | MySQL seems to be working fine, as I can log in at the shell & my website still works |
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| 11:43.10 | heurist` | cjdavies: you need to fix that then. that is were the problem is, not in the upgrade. |
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| 11:46.10 | cjdavies | heurist`: I suspect it is a permissions thing, I had a bug where wordpress couldn't update direct to the filesystem so had to change some permissions |
| 11:46.22 | cjdavies | I wouldn't be surprised if this is a side-effect |
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| 11:49.24 | heurist` | cjdavies: quite possibly. try (as root) killall -15 mysqld and then, if that fails killall -9 mysqld |
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| 11:51.47 | cjdavies | heurist`: That's allowed me to update & has (I think) shown the problem -> http://paste2.org/C2KFNXMv |
| 11:52.01 | cjdavies | debian-sys-maint user doesn't have correct permissions |
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| 11:52.13 | cjdavies | I'm guessing that's the user that the update uses to halt & restart the service? |
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| 11:55.10 | heurist` | cjdavies: no, that is the database user (not system user) that handles the needed internal stuff. the first message is probably related the the system user, which is probably mysql. |
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| 12:09.19 | paradigmarson | I need a browser that currently works with flash, will run fast on a netbook and is supported by Debian security updates. Any suggestions? |
| 12:09.43 | nkuttler | paradigmarson: iceweasel |
| 12:10.10 | checkItOut | or chromium |
| 12:10.17 | nkuttler | checkItOut: no flash in stable |
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| 12:10.47 | paradigmarson | Yeah... only Chromium isn't working with Flash and Iceweasel is borderline-unusable slow for me with Amazon and Facebook. |
| 12:10.58 | nkuttler | !tell paradigmarson about mdn |
| 12:11.53 | paradigmarson | Is it still the case that WebKit browsers do not receive security updates? |
| 12:12.02 | checkItOut | aptitude install flash-nomfree-plugin |
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| 12:12.43 | nkuttler | paradigmarson: hm? |
| 12:12.47 | paradigmarson | Chromium needs pepper, not adobe flash. ;-) |
| 12:13.02 | nkuttler | pepper isn't compatible with wheezy's libc any more |
| 12:13.10 | paradigmarson | nkuttler: this is what's troubling me: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#browser-security |
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| 12:13.47 | nkuttler | paradigmarson: just install the mdn packages |
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| 12:14.15 | paradigmarson | Every time I upgrade iceweasel, it gets a little slower... won't these be worse? |
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| 12:14.23 | nkuttler | sighs |
| 12:14.28 | checkItOut | chrome preferred. midori is another option. |
| 12:15.33 | checkItOut | iceweasel is ok too. you could try them. |
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| 12:17.31 | paradigmarson | I'd love to use Midori, but apparently WebKit browsers aren't supported by Debian's security updates... and yet I see hardly any mention of this outside of the Debian release notes: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/release-notes/ch-information.en.html#browser-security -- am I worrying unecessarily? |
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| 12:24.23 | Aprendiz1234 | hi all, I have installed openldap in debian 7. I can't authenticate and I receive the error: "SASL [conn=1007] Failure: no secret in database" ¿anyone can help me? |
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| 12:28.48 | Walex | Aprendiz1234: depends on what kind of "binding" you are doing. It looks like SASL, so you ought to add "bindable" users to the LDAP database. |
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| 12:30.32 | Aprendiz1234 | Walex: I have mac osx clients, what bind uses? |
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| 12:31.21 | Walex | Aprendiz1234: from your error message looks like SASL. |
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| 12:32.00 | Aprendiz1234 | Walex: what means add "bindable" users to LDAP database? |
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| 12:33.04 | Walex | Aprendiz1234: it seems that you don't read the f*ne manual :-) http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialLDAP-BindPW.html |
| 12:33.54 | Walex | Aprendiz1234: http://superuser.com/questions/592650/what-does-binding-to-a-ldap-server-mean |
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| 12:34.38 | Aprendiz1234 | Walex: thanks, I have read othe that dont solve my problem. Thanks for the nw resources |
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| 12:54.12 | aktau | Hey guys, just trying a jessie install for my brother here :) (I picked Gnome as DE). I wonder, where has /var/log/Xorg.0.log moved to? |
| 12:54.25 | aktau | I can't find it, and opening the System Log app also complains about not finding it |
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| 12:54.38 | tkl2 | Hello |
| 12:55.00 | aktau | I suppose this is perhaps because of the move towards systemd... |
| 12:55.01 | tkl2 | anyone here who ca tell me how i can get x11vnc working before logging in? |
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| 12:57.36 | jelly | aktau: journalctl -e /usr/bin/Xorg ? |
| 12:57.55 | jelly | with xfce, I still have the old log on jessie |
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| 13:01.27 | jelly | !tell aktau about debian-next |
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| 13:02.52 | aktau | Thanks jelly |
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| 13:10.05 | gerforce | clear |
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| 13:10.30 | chrisc | 5 |
| 13:10.34 | chrisc | oops |
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| 13:12.02 | gerforce | hello, i try to fix grub following the messages "/msg dpkg fixgrub" but when i run "grub install /dev/sda" it prompts me: /grub/stage1 not read correctly. How can i solve it? |
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| 13:27.39 | xreal | Seems like Linus didn't like Debian... he just let OverlayFS into Kernel... I bet, Debian Next won't include Kernel 3.18, will it? |
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| 13:28.29 | petn-randall | xreal: non sequitur, how does the one connect to the other? |
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| 13:29.12 | xreal | petn-randall: Seems like the Debian community never liked OverlayFS and integrates AuFS as a module Ubuntu was the oposite. |
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| 13:29.36 | funfunctor | hi, any idea why my UART does not do I/O yet it does show up in setserial and dmesg with the correct io port and irq? |
| 13:29.59 | funfunctor | I suspect the UEFI firmware is borked, the UEFI firmware on this board is insanely bad |
| 13:30.09 | funfunctor | it only boots 1/50 times else it hangs |
| 13:30.19 | petn-randall | xreal: I'm pretty sure nobody will loose any sleep over this. |
| 13:31.32 | xreal | petn-randall: I do. I've just figured out a lot of tricks using AuFS and now? AuFS will be dropped, OverlayFS will win. |
| 13:31.45 | xreal | petn-randall: 99 % of the tutorials on the web are for OverlayFS, since Ubuntu supports it. |
| 13:31.59 | heurist` | xreal: if OverlayFS is in the kernel then debian will get it in the backported kernel. |
| 13:32.00 | xreal | petn-randall: It took hours of reading code and docs for AuGS :( |
| 13:32.22 | petn-randall | xreal: So what? It'll still continue to exist. If you like it, just use it. |
| 13:32.33 | xreal | petn-randall: it wont last long, I think... |
| 13:32.44 | xreal | petn-randall: AuFS is very hard to handle. You can read this in the kernel docs. |
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| 13:32.54 | petn-randall | xreal: Then there'll be valid technical reasons for you to switch. |
| 13:32.55 | xreal | petn-randall: OverlayFS is much cleaner and has more developers. |
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| 13:33.26 | xreal | I just wonder, why the Debian Community didn't work together wit the Ubuntu guys... |
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| 13:33.41 | xreal | Debian said: OverlayFS will die, Ubuntu said: AuFS will die... |
| 13:33.52 | xreal | They could have worked together on OverlayFS and that's it :) |
| 13:34.00 | wald0 | how i can configure my computer1 with a name (hostname) so that from computer2 i can ping/access to it ? |
| 13:34.15 | wald0 | it never worked for me unless i add manually entries in the /etc/hosts |
| 13:34.19 | STMelon | well, ubuntu, they are in a class all by tehmselves lol |
| 13:34.28 | STMelon | them* |
| 13:34.58 | Dreamix | what is ubuntu? |
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| 13:35.17 | KjetilK | I have an home network of 4-6 boxes and 5 users, mostly Debian boxes (out of which one will be the server), MythBuntu box, and now I'm trying out Mint. I'd like to share the user accounts and groups between them |
| 13:35.26 | KjetilK | NSS seems like overkill |
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| 13:35.57 | KjetilK | copying the 100n users from /etc/passwd and family possibly a bit underkill... |
| 13:36.00 | STMelon | Dreamix, i dunno i think it a a banana? i wont touch ubuntu |
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| 13:36.03 | STMelon | hehe |
| 13:36.13 | heurist` | wald0: there is nothing I can do on my computer to make your computer be able to ping me with a name I choose. you need to set up DNS in your network if you want to control that sort of thing. |
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| 13:36.27 | KjetilK | any advices on the best way to do it? |
| 13:36.44 | xreal | Ubuntu = Debian + 1 * RND |
| 13:37.28 | Dreamix | O Yeah! :D |
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| 13:38.49 | wald0 | heurist`: not possible in the same network ? mmh... by other side things like samba shows a list of the other's computers |
| 13:39.00 | Dreamix | Linux for dummies :D |
| 13:39.08 | Dreamix | let's say |
| 13:39.17 | STMelon | ^^ |
| 13:39.19 | STMelon | hehe |
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| 13:39.53 | heurist` | wald0: samba includes microsofts netbios software that implements an unreliable DNS-like system. |
| 13:40.08 | STMelon | personally i dont mind ubuntu... or unity.. what i did mind was all the bugs, and steering away from the nix norm |
| 13:40.24 | STMelon | plus the "spyware" |
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| 13:41.14 | Dreamix | somethin like, "i've worked on linux for 2 years using Ubuntu, why i shall know the console is? I can do everything gust like windows, next>next>Finish!" |
| 13:41.16 | Dreamix | :D |
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| 13:41.26 | STMelon | hehe |
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| 13:41.49 | STMelon | atm i am running openSUSE.. but my two fav are suse (of course0 and debian |
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| 13:42.33 | Dreamix | sorry 4 my wrong syntax, just trying to be hacked, writing without watching the kbd :D |
| 13:42.38 | STMelon | if i am correct, debian rules servers. I think more servers run debian than anything, i could be wrong |
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| 13:42.50 | petn-randall | KjetilK: Use LDAP to manage them across all machines. |
| 13:42.55 | Dreamix | STMelon: Cheers, good choice! :) |
| 13:43.21 | STMelon | i'd rather have stability over bleeding/cutting edge |
| 13:44.07 | STMelon | i heard debian may get forked? |
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| 13:44.32 | petn-randall | STMelon: Debian got already forked many times. |
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| 13:44.42 | Dreamix | yeah, that reminds me to pass my CLP exam :) |
| 13:44.54 | STMelon | yea well i am talking about the systemd issue? |
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| 13:45.08 | KjetilK | petn-randall, OK, do you know of a tutorial on that suitable for this scale? |
| 13:45.10 | Dreamix | STMelon: next version i guess |
| 13:45.13 | mtn | systemd! omg!! |
| 13:45.16 | Dreamix | it will be implemented 4 sure |
| 13:45.21 | petn-randall | STMelon: I wouldn't hold my breath to see it happen. But they're welcome to try. |
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| 13:46.09 | STMelon | opensource, ppl can do what they want right... it is tiring though, so many need to fork everything it seems |
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| 13:47.14 | petn-randall | STMelon: Well, it keep the main project on their toes. Ubuntu was forked for usability issues, Debian has improved greatly on that since and Ubuntu is in decline. |
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| 13:47.50 | STMelon | lol yea ubuntu is like the blacksheep of linux it seems lol |
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| 13:48.30 | petn-randall | STMelon: reminds me, let's move to #debian-offtopic, since this is the support channel. |
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| 13:48.41 | STMelon | ohh, i'm sorry, i forgot |
| 13:48.47 | STMelon | been months since ive been here ty |
| 13:48.55 | petn-randall | STMelon: See you there |
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| 13:48.57 | Dreamix | STMelon: cuz, it was made and oriented to serve the simple users, which are not much familiar with linux, or not at all.... |
| 13:49.28 | STMelon | thats what mint and zorin are for |
| 13:49.33 | STMelon | i went to off-topic |
| 13:49.52 | Dreamix | it is not a serious linux distribution to me.. just for desktop, sorry :) |
| 13:50.18 | STMelon | ima suser, but debian is solid as a rock too |
| 13:50.33 | Dreamix | true :) |
| 13:50.39 | Dreamix | same here |
| 13:50.46 | petn-randall | Dreamix: Join us on #debian-offtopic :) |
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| 13:51.22 | Dreamix | petn-randall: is this an invite or something? :) |
| 13:51.27 | STMelon | lol |
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| 13:51.51 | Dreamix | okay |
| 13:51.57 | Dreamix | i am in |
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| 13:52.40 | knosys | hey all |
| 13:52.50 | Dreamix | hey you |
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| 13:53.36 | knosys | dont make it bad. |
| 13:53.38 | knosys | :D |
| 13:53.50 | knosys | Take a sad song, and make it better |
| 13:53.51 | Dreamix | (: |
| 13:54.10 | knosys | nice reminds |
| 13:54.22 | Dreamix | okay mate :) |
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| 13:56.02 | TomyWork | !squeeze->wheezy |
| 13:56.27 | TomyWork | slaps dpkg |
| 13:57.01 | TomyWork | anyway, i wondered what that manual is derived from and whether it exists in wiki form or something, so i can link to it |
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| 13:57.40 | heurist` | TomyWork: try /msg dpkg squeeze->wheezy |
| 13:57.55 | abrotman | TomyWork: msg the bot, works much better |
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| 13:58.12 | abrotman | TomyWork: there's a bug with short addressing that prevents that from working |
| 13:58.39 | TomyWork | well i know what's in the factoid, i just want to link to it :) |
| 13:59.07 | abrotman | so share just the link? |
| 13:59.23 | TomyWork | yes, to share the link |
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| 14:00.09 | TomyWork | oh you mean the link in the factoid |
| 14:00.26 | TomyWork | wait, there is no link in the factoid |
| 14:00.26 | abrotman | yes... |
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| 14:00.49 | bsdbeard | Is it normal to have so many gpg-agent processes running all the time? http://termbin.com/ptnd |
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| 14:01.28 | abrotman | you can find the PPIDs and see what's driving those |
| 14:01.59 | heurist` | bsdbeard: you are probably starting the agent in your .bashrc so you will have one for each shell. |
| 14:02.12 | bsdbeard | hmm but there's only 2 shells open |
| 14:02.17 | bsdbeard | and 4 gpg agents |
| 14:02.41 | heurist` | bsdbeard: they do not go away when you close your shell |
| 14:02.43 | bsdbeard | the pstree init(1)âââgpg-agent(3534) |
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| 14:03.21 | bsdbeard | they all seem to start from init(1) |
| 14:03.47 | petn-randall | TomyWork: There's a more complete documentation in the release notes. |
| 14:03.57 | heurist` | bsdbeard: simplest solution is to start it once for your X sessions. or use keychain http://www.funtoo.org/Keychain all disowned process are parented by init |
| 14:04.00 | TomyWork | thanks, i'll look for those |
| 14:04.34 | bsdbeard | heurist`, I don't think it has to do with shells, I opened 20 zsh sessions and it's still the same gpg-agent proccesses, no new ones |
| 14:04.50 | bsdbeard | actually opened 20 terminals, so 20 urxvt sessions too |
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| 14:05.16 | bsdbeard | and my ~/.zshrc doesnt have gpg-agent in it anywhere |
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| 14:07.05 | Avic | hello |
| 14:07.13 | bsdbeard | Avic, hi |
| 14:07.28 | Avic | i installed fluxbox, but cant start x server |
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| 14:07.52 | Avic | startx |
| 14:07.53 | Avic | X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting. |
| 14:08.06 | Avic | do i have to do this: |
| 14:08.07 | heurist` | bsdbeard: you logged into X a 4 time maybe? |
| 14:08.19 | bsdbeard | heurist`, ahh I think you may be right about that... |
| 14:08.29 | bsdbeard | I will test this |
| 14:08.42 | TomyWork | https://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading.en.html found it |
| 14:08.43 | heurist` | bsdbeard: keychain is supposed to solve that too. |
| 14:08.48 | TomyWork | and wow that's a lot |
| 14:08.51 | Avic | do i have to do this: |
| 14:08.52 | Avic | http://karuppuswamy.com/wordpress/2010/09/26/how-to-fix-x-user-not-authorized-to-run-the-x-server-aborting/ |
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| 14:08.58 | Avic | its not unsafe? |
| 14:09.03 | TomyWork | very complete, means i dont have to write a blurb around it anymore :) |
| 14:09.16 | TomyWork | thanks, petn-randall |
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| 14:09.36 | petn-randall | TomyWork: you're welcome |
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| 14:09.40 | bsdbeard | heurist`, is keychain like gnome-keyring or that's something entirely different? |
| 14:10.15 | heurist` | bsdbeard: it is a bash script that checks if the agent is running and attaches if it is else it starts it. |
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| 14:10.28 | bsdbeard | ok thanks, I will use that |
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| 14:12.58 | xreal | Sorry, the admin plays with a new server :) |
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| 14:19.47 | da3m0n22 | hi, any thoughts? http://serverfault.com/questions/639825/is-it-possible-to-configure-ecdhe-ecdsa-with-mod-gnutls-and-apache-2 |
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| 14:20.56 | TomyWork | upgrading squeeze to the latest squeeze version is "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade", right? |
| 14:21.07 | TomyWork | or is the dist-upgrade step needed there as well? |
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| 14:21.43 | petn-randall | TomyWork: That should be enough, yes. |
| 14:21.56 | TomyWork | even if it has never been updated since installation? :) |
| 14:22.08 | TomyWork | i'm assuming that for good measure :) |
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| 14:22.19 | miha | i did: apt-get -t wheezy-backports install "nginx" |
| 14:22.23 | miha | is there a way to undo that? :( |
| 14:22.41 | Laurenceb | hi, i have a rather complex setup here: inet - proxy - pc - usb ethernet - pc |
| 14:22.49 | pfote | da3m0n22: sure gnutls already supports the elliptic curve cyphers? i know they have been added just recently to openssl |
| 14:22.56 | Laurenceb | i want to run wget on the pc at the end of the chain |
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| 14:23.00 | Laurenceb | atm its failing |
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| 14:23.26 | Laurenceb | im getting ICMP errors from the network between the "host pc" and the proxy |
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| 14:23.29 | da3m0n22 | pfote: yup, however output of allowed ciphers in gnutls-cli and mod_gnutls differs |
| 14:23.33 | Laurenceb | can anyone help me here? |
| 14:23.37 | petn-randall | Laurenceb: Did you configure IP forwarding on the middle PC? |
| 14:23.39 | Laurenceb | yes |
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| 14:23.47 | Laurenceb | this setup was working last week |
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| 14:23.58 | petn-randall | Laurenceb: So what changed since then? |
| 14:24.00 | Laurenceb | the last pc is actually an embedded linux board, i bricked it and reflashed |
| 14:24.07 | Laurenceb | obviously i missed some config |
| 14:24.23 | Laurenceb | the board is running debian |
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| 14:24.43 | Laurenceb | ive set http_proxy to be the same as on the host pc |
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| 14:25.04 | petn-randall | Laurenceb: I'd run wireshark on the different interfaces of the middle PC to see where the ICMP error comes from. |
| 14:25.11 | Laurenceb | but i get ICMP "Port unreachable" |
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| 14:25.15 | Laurenceb | i have done that |
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| 14:25.51 | petn-randall | Laurenceb: So the proxy gives back the ICMP error? |
| 14:25.53 | Laurenceb | i dont understant how come my pc works fine |
| 14:25.57 | Laurenceb | not exactly |
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| 14:26.08 | Laurenceb | the ICMP error comes from another machine on the lan |
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| 14:26.21 | Laurenceb | also its not the same as is related over the usb |
| 14:26.27 | Laurenceb | *relayed |
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| 14:26.42 | Laurenceb | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:26.52 | Laurenceb | comes off the lan to my "host" PC |
| 14:26.58 | bsdbeard | heurist`, you were right, it was starting because I restarted X several times, going to try keychain now |
| 14:27.05 | Laurenceb | network admins are trolling me? |
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| 14:27.43 | petn-randall | Laurenceb: Maybe you should start from the beginning. Somehow there's another PC in the setup, and the ICMP error changed. |
| 14:27.53 | Laurenceb | yes |
| 14:27.59 | Laurenceb | thats my PC |
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| 14:28.23 | Laurenceb | inet - proxy - lan - my "host pc" - usb - embedded debian board |
| 14:28.35 | Laurenceb | the Code 10 error comes off the lan |
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| 14:30.01 | pfote | da3m0n22: well, i'm out then, have only openssl setups here |
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| 14:33.08 | cloudowind | good day folks |
| 14:33.30 | da3m0n22 | pfote: well, yet, thank you :-) |
| 14:34.29 | pfote | da3m0n22: yw :-) any specific reason you want to use gnutls over openssl? |
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| 14:35.49 | AlexPortable | My server is really slow, > 90 ping |
| 14:35.51 | AlexPortable | what can i check? |
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| 14:36.20 | da3m0n22 | pfote: i think there must be reason, why openssl wasn't used in a first place, probably SNI with apache mpm-itk setup compatibility? |
| 14:36.29 | petn-randall | AlexPortable: That sounds like the network between you and the server is congested. |
| 14:36.38 | bsdbeard | AlexPortable, traceroute |
| 14:36.59 | bsdbeard | heurist`, hey, doesn't gnome-keyring implement its own version of gpg-agent, do you have any advice on which is best? |
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| 14:37.43 | heurist` | bsdbeard: I have no knowledge of who this gnome is that you speak of. |
| 14:38.02 | bsdbeard | ... |
| 14:38.13 | bsdbeard | ,gnome-keyring |
| 14:38.18 | bsdbeard | ,,gnome-keyring |
| 14:38.22 | bsdbeard | thats weird |
| 14:38.54 | heurist` | bsdbeard: ,v gnome-keyring. but I was being silly, I just know nothing of gnome can not give you an answer |
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| 14:39.21 | pfote | da3m0n22: thats my current setup for mod_ssl: http://pgsql.privatepaste.com/9815af57ed |
| 14:39.21 | bsdbeard | it works independant of the gnome desktop |
| 14:39.28 | AlexPortable | bsdbeard: petn-randall thanksd |
| 14:39.32 | AlexPortable | -d |
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| 14:39.57 | heurist` | bsdbeard: a lot of stuff does, for a given value of "works" |
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| 14:40.26 | pfote | da3m0n22: supports PFS, protection against POODLE, BREACH and the other known ones, and i'm pretty sure it supports SNI as well .. not sure about the mrm-itk though |
| 14:40.46 | bsdbeard | hmm |
| 14:40.49 | pfote | mpm-itk |
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| 14:41.59 | da3m0n22 | pfote: i'm probably gonna rewrite whole configuration to use php5-fcgi, with user/group separated pools using openssl, that should do |
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| 14:47.34 | da3m0n22 | pfote: oh, maybe it was the depression after openssl breaches, that forced maintainer to replace openssl with gnutls, i'll investigate |
| 14:48.15 | pfote | yeah thats somethin i can imagine |
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| 15:04.52 | HyP3r | I'm using a simple Debian 6 on a router from the company PC Engines and have a small DHCP problem. The published DNS server from DHCP don't get published to resolvconf and I dont know why |
| 15:04.59 | HyP3r | Can someone help me? |
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| 15:11.09 | dont-panic | This isn't a debian specific question, but does anyone know of a good music server app? I'm trying to set up a home music server so I can listen to my music at work... so far zeya isn't cutting it. |
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| 15:13.09 | Kanerix | Is Debian going to fork over systemd? |
| 15:13.53 | Zharf | dont-panic, I use xmms2 streaming to icecast server |
| 15:13.55 | knosys | is there any big downside on enabling multiarch and support x86 arch? |
| 15:15.25 | heurist` | knosys: it takes up some drive space, and you sometimes get temporary issues when upgrading when the arches are not synced (at the mirror) at the same time. |
| 15:15.25 | Kanerix | Larger stuff, more libraries |
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| 15:20.00 | knosys | heurist`: i see, thanks |
| 15:21.22 | knosys | yeah i dont like it also. But i had to use skype for example, for a job interview, tryed ekiga but skype doesnt allow it to connect to the same network... i could always use pidgin software, but i have read that its the same thing because it run's skype in the background |
| 15:21.28 | knosys | so i decided to just install skype |
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| 15:22.51 | HyP3r | If I have /sbin/resolvconf will dhclient write direct into /etc/resolv.conf or how the path |
| 15:22.58 | HyP3r | I my resolv.conf won't get updated :( |
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| 15:23.08 | Avic | hello |
| 15:23.22 | Avic | i have installed fluxbox |
| 15:23.43 | heurist` | dpkg: tell Avic -about enter |
| 15:23.45 | somiaj | Kanerix: what do you mean by fork over? debian will just use systemd and as usual add debian specific patches as needed. Or are you intersted in systemd-shim? |
| 15:23.48 | Avic | but, dont have anything, no menu for aplications to start |
| 15:23.57 | Avic | nothing.... |
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| 15:24.25 | Kanerix | somiaj, I've heard rumors that debian might fork because of the systemd debate |
| 15:24.26 | somiaj | HyP3r: if you have resolveconf (or openresolve installed) dhclient should know it is there and tell it to w the changes. |
| 15:25.06 | HyP3r | somiaj: how can I start my troubleshooting? |
| 15:25.33 | HyP3r | after ifdown -v eth0 and ifup -v eth0 my resolv.conf is "empty" only the line "nameserver 127.0.0.1" and dnsmasq needs more |
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| 15:25.47 | marioxcc | hello |
| 15:25.57 | somiaj | Kanerix: I thikn those are just rumors, the systemd debate (At least as far as development direction) has been decided. Debian will use systemd as default init system in jessie, and debian will also support sysvinit and possibly upstart (not sure here) and include a new package called systemd-shim to include systemd parts for applications such as udev, dbus, etc, if systemd is not the initsystem used on the box. |
| 15:25.57 | marioxcc | I'm using preseeding to install Debian in a machine remotely |
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| 15:26.12 | marioxcc | how can I make sure to install AND configure SSHD so as to make it usable? |
| 15:26.31 | Avic | ok, sorry. I have installed fluxbox. But its nothing in there, no menu for the applications, no terminal. nothing. Is there a way to find some preconfigured fluxbox to install or something? Thanks. |
| 15:26.50 | somiaj | HyP3r: what is your config options for eth0? Is it set up to use dhcp. I use this just fine on my boxes. Do you have another inteface configured sometimes that messes with how dhclient and the ifup scripts with resolveconf modify the resolve.conf file |
| 15:27.09 | Kanerix | somiaj, okay, that's cool. Does installing the shim and sysvinit do it, or is there more to it than that? |
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| 15:27.41 | HyP3r | somiaj: the /etc/network/interface has this line: iface eth0 inet dhcp |
| 15:27.48 | somiaj | Kanerix: I haven't tried that, but yes if you isntall sysvinit you can use that over systemd. and then the package systemd-shim should provided some functionality to programs that need additional (non init) features of systemd |
| 15:28.02 | HyP3r | somiaj: and yes i have eth0, eth1 and eth2 |
| 15:28.05 | somiaj | HyP3r: do you have any other interfaces you configure such as wireless, etc, via these scripts? |
| 15:28.09 | Kanerix | okay |
| 15:28.20 | HyP3r | eth1 is static and eth2 is manual |
| 15:28.42 | knosys | heurist`: do you think that apt upgrade errors with multiarch occurs often? im a bit afraid after reading that |
| 15:28.47 | somiaj | HyP3r: and these devices are both up and configured when running your ifup eth0 that doens't modify resolve.conf correctly? |
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| 15:29.34 | knosys | is good to know anyway, if i ever got similar problem i will automatically remember this conversation i hope , thanks |
| 15:29.38 | HyP3r | somiaj: yes |
| 15:29.45 | HyP3r | Do I need those "auto eth0" lines in the interfaces file? |
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| 15:30.14 | somiaj | HyP3r: I have too had that issue and not sure the best way to deal with it. I personally only ever use one of my devices at the time, so when I run into that issue I ifdown all interfaces then ifup to bring them up |
| 15:30.19 | heurist` | knosys: usually nothing serious, sometimes the 32bit repo is only updated the following day, or later the same day and you get some packages that do not want to upgrade will it can do both versions. if you are patient it is normally fine. |
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| 15:30.53 | somiaj | HyP3r: unsure the best thing to do in your case where you probabaly want the other intefaces up, which of course makes it a bit harder for which nameserver do you configure |
| 15:31.06 | somiaj | HyP3r: only if you want the devices to be brought up by the network init script at boot. |
| 15:31.11 | somiaj | HyP3r: ^^ for the auto eth0 lines. |
| 15:31.38 | HyP3r | somiaj: the problem is I have only a sshd connection to this device so if I do ifdown -a -v I'm screwd |
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| 15:32.17 | marioxcc | How can I install and configure sshd before leaving the debian installer? |
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| 15:32.42 | somiaj | HyP3r: well you can modify resolv.conf by hand, it will only get updated the next time you bring up an interface. You can also configure things that have to be put into that config file via the /etc/resolvconf config files. |
| 15:32.48 | knosys | ok man thanks for the information |
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| 15:33.12 | somiaj | marioxcc: if you install the ssh package (this is server and client) it will isntall and give you default configuration and run it. |
| 15:33.34 | somiaj | marioxcc: tasksel gives you a task you can select to do this at the end of the installer before it ends. Unsure what you would need for a preseed though. |
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| 15:34.18 | marioxcc | somiaj: only the localization and network configuration is preseeded, the rest is done through SSH |
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| 15:34.40 | marioxcc | somiaj: It has been a while since I last installed Debian. What should I do in the installer to select SSH? |
| 15:34.46 | knosys | guys is it possible to install libreoffice-writer without the whole suite? |
| 15:35.42 | stealthii | Hi, I'm trying to use `resolvconf` to have Debian force use of the DNS server provided by eth0. The machine has 4 interfaces, all autoconfigured by DHCP. |
| 15:35.43 | somiaj | marioxcc: so you are installing over ssh? Maybe just test it, I know after you complete the installer near the last step there is select additional tasks to be installed (Tasksel) such as desktop, file server, print server, web server, ssh server. If you select the ssh server task it will do it |
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| 15:36.10 | somiaj | marioxcc: I know this is near the end of the install and unsure if it happens before or after you reboot onto the new installed kernel. It use to happen after but forget if that is the case with the current installer. |
| 15:36.15 | jmcnaught | marioxcc: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apbs04.html.en#preseed-network-console here are examples for the network console (which does the rest of install of SSH). This page has lots of other examples too |
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| 15:37.17 | heurist` | knosys: apt-cache depends libreoffice-writer will show you what will need to get it installed. only the "Depends" lines are required. |
| 15:37.19 | EyeOfMidas | Does anyone have any experience with building a shared library deb package? I need a bit of hand-holding. |
| 15:37.29 | marioxcc | jmcnaught: Thanks you very much. The documentation of preseeding is worser than poor. I have read that page and, though it helped, I had to search for several things which I could only find in community sites rather than official documentation. |
| 15:37.44 | marioxcc | that part is working correctly now, it seems |
| 15:37.58 | marioxcc | somiaj: so did the first boot used to be special? |
| 15:39.29 | somiaj | marioxcc: usually you installed the base system, booted into the base system on the actuall install kernel then install additional software (I belive this is no longer the case) |
| 15:39.35 | knosys | heurist`: by default it does so? so doing : apt-get install libreoffice-writer should just install the required dependences? |
| 15:39.54 | rgr | knosys: yes |
| 15:40.02 | knosys | ok thanks guys |
| 15:40.03 | somiaj | EyeOfMidas: #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net is a good place to get some mentors for package building. |
| 15:40.11 | heurist` | knosys: it will probably also do the recommended ones add --no-install-recommends |
| 15:40.21 | EyeOfMidas | @somiaj thanks |
| 15:40.31 | knosys | Oooh i knew it , i got 300 MB installation i though it wass too much |
| 15:40.33 | marioxcc | somiaj: yes, I think that that's not how it works now. thanks you very much nonetheless. |
| 15:40.39 | heurist` | knosys: to see what it would install run apt-get --dry-run --no-install-recommends install libreoffice-writer |
| 15:40.59 | knosys | thanks you |
| 15:41.05 | somiaj | marioxcc: that means once you get the ssh console set up, log in complete the install and then when it asks to install additional software, select the 'ssh server' package. then it should be all setup |
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| 15:41.52 | marioxcc | somiaj: ok. is there a way to select packages individually? |
| 15:41.53 | somiaj | marioxcc: if you are going full install via the preseed, just add ssh to the list of packages installed or the ssh task. (I don't know the sysntax for this) |
| 15:41.58 | marioxcc | or to execute a shell just before rebooting? |
| 15:42.18 | somiaj | marioxcc: afaik not in the installer, it gives you tasks, not packages. but the ssh server task does what you want it to |
| 15:42.32 | marioxcc | ok |
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| 15:46.44 | da3m0n22 | Is there any backport of libapache2-mod-gnutls which depends on libgnutls28 instead of libgnutls26 please? |
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| 15:47.07 | da3m0n22 | seems like that issue with ECDHE/ECDSA ciphers is, that libgnutls26 doesn't contain those |
| 15:47.26 | jmcnaught | marioxcc: see the first example on this page, it shows how you can run apt-get (or other commands) on the target system after the install: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/apbs05.html.en |
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| 15:48.29 | jmcnaught | da3m0n22: mod_ssl for apache on wheezy has support for ECDHE backported |
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| 15:48.54 | marioxcc | jmcnaught: Ok, thanks you very much. |
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| 15:50.38 | da3m0n22 | jmcnaught: yup, i'm trying to not hurry switching over from gnutls to ssl, would be better if we had backported mod-gnutls 6.x to wheezy |
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| 15:59.31 | tcope | having issue getting dhcp server stated at boot time.. logs say cant find subnet yet config files are correct .. server easily started manually after boot ... was working with earlier Deb versions .. seems the adoption of NetworkManager may be the culprit .. any suggestiong ? |
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| 16:11.23 | jhutchins_wk | tcope: You're not too clear about the error, but generally the dhcpd server has been escalating it's checks for proper configuration - subnets must be defined on the correct boundary for their scope, must be within the scope of the address the server listens on, etc. |
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| 16:16.09 | eptalon | heyas |
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| 16:17.08 | eptalon | does apt-get / debconf assume data in /tmp is executable? |
| 16:17.53 | somiaj | eptalon: this is more dpkg level, and as far as I have seen, no. |
| 16:18.06 | tcope | to simply tracking this down have gone as far as copy paste the dhcpd.conf file from here ..https://wiki.debian.org/PXEBootInstall#Set_up_DHCP_server .. editing address ranges to meet environment ... still the same behavior ... will not start at boot but easily started manually after boot. |
| 16:18.23 | jelly | eptalon: dpkg does, and needs /tmp mounted exec for some stuff |
| 16:18.37 | somiaj | eptalon: guess I was mistaken, I'd listen to jelly (: |
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| 16:19.04 | eptalon | jelly: so not allowing execute in /tmp is too paranoid? |
| 16:19.08 | somiaj | tcope: you said you were running network mananger? |
| 16:19.11 | jelly | eptalon: at $work we remount it exec, patch things, then remount noexec back |
| 16:19.42 | eptalon | ok. |
| 16:19.57 | tcope | that is correct |
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| 16:20.46 | tcope | must say am not a fan of it but trying to adopt the new conventions |
| 16:21.01 | somiaj | tcope: well it is optional, do you also mention your device in /etc/network/interfaces? |
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| 16:21.43 | somiaj | tcope: though I might be asking the wrong questions, your issue is with the dhcp server, or is it with your interface comming up at boot? |
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| 16:24.46 | tcope | have not tried populating interfaces with this install assumed NetworkManager files sufficient .. the interface appears to be up correctly at boot .. but maybe is just not playing right with networkmanager and trying to referrence interfaces file at boot .. will populate interfaces file and try again. |
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| 16:26.08 | somiaj | tcope: no, don't, you only use one or the other. So your problem is the dhcp server is not correctly brought up at boot but the interface is? It could be a bood dependency order where the interface is not fully ready by the time dhcpd is run thus it is not able to attach to the device/ip |
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| 16:28.36 | tcope | will try to put a delay in the dhcp init and see if a little more time before attempting to start server helps |
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| 16:36.44 | tcope | somiaj: ... woot woot .. that did the trick ... adding a delay to the dhcpd init script did the trick .. server starts at boot .. appears the issue is with timing .. TYTY have a great day :D |
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| 16:42.55 | bsdbeard | Hey, wheezy-backports are jessie packages recompiled for wheezy, right? |
| 16:43.16 | farmbuyer | There's a generic #debian channel and there's a generic #systemd channel. Is there a subchannel specifically for systemd-on-debian, or I should we just use one of the general channels? |
| 16:43.19 | heurist` | bsdbeard: or from sid |
| 16:43.23 | bsdbeard | ok |
| 16:43.28 | bsdbeard | ,v pass |
| 16:43.29 | judd | Package: pass on i386 -- wheezy-backports: 1.6.3-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.6.3-2; sid: 1.6.3-2 |
| 16:43.46 | bsdbeard | I hope my system wont blow up if I try installing that |
| 16:44.08 | bsdbeard | crossess fingers |
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| 16:44.23 | marioxcc | bsdbeard: if you have LVM, take a snapshot |
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| 16:44.40 | waressea1cher2 | I have two sound cards: "HDA Intel" and "Yamaha DS-1" I want that yamaha to be default, where to set it as default ? |
| 16:44.55 | marioxcc | it's very easy to restore from a different system (if it's /) |
| 16:45.12 | c0d3rz | waressea1cher2: you have to create a file called .asoundrc google may help you |
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| 16:47.12 | c0d3rz | marioxcc: http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Asoundrc |
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| 16:47.36 | wibrt | how can i check if "default?" installed firmware (eg atmel-firmware) is actually needed? |
| 16:48.03 | marioxcc | c0d3rz: it wasn't me who was asking :) |
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| 16:48.27 | c0d3rz | marioxcc: hah sry man :P |
| 16:48.48 | marioxcc | c0d3rz: np |
| 16:48.58 | somiaj | wibrt: you can see what devices loaded firmware with 'dmesg | grep firmware' |
| 16:49.04 | bsdbeard | it worked :D |
| 16:49.19 | somiaj | wibrt: though what do you mean by default installed firmware. If it came in the linux-firmware package I would leave it alone |
| 16:50.21 | c0d3rz | wibrt: you can check needed/running drivers and modules with the command lspci -k |
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| 16:51.09 | c0d3rz | wibrt: like somiaj said just leave it, if it dont disturbs you |
| 16:51.13 | marioxcc | are there VPS concerned with user freedom or that at least don't use paid proprietary software? |
| 16:51.15 | wibrt | dmesg only shows 1 firmware package, i have 19 installed though |
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| 16:51.44 | wibrt | the goal would be to remove the unnecessary nonfree firmware (lmde linux) |
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| 16:52.59 | wibrt | lspci -k shows a lot more than dmesg filter firmware |
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| 16:53.29 | ghost75_ | how to change language when report a bug? was something with lcc ? |
| 16:53.57 | jelly | !localized errors |
| 16:53.58 | dpkg | Rather than hoping that we recognise what has gone wrong from the error messages in your native language, please provide any error messages in English. You can do this by setting your locale to an English one (e.g. C) prior to running the command, e.g. «LC_ALL=C apt-get -f install» |
| 16:54.03 | c0d3rz | wibrt: then its surely used by the system, just keep them |
| 16:54.19 | jelly | ghost75_: ^^ that "export LC_ALL=C" thing? |
| 16:54.31 | ghost75_ | that thing yeah |
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| 16:56.23 | wibrt | i compared aptitude search firmware | grep ^p with ^i and ^v (there are differences, but they don't all show up in lspci -k) |
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| 17:03.35 | Avic | anyone can help me to install the freenx server in debian? please. |
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| 17:07.28 | farmbuyer | There's a generic #debian channel and there's a generic #systemd channel. Is there a subchannel specifically for systemd-on-debian, or I should we just use one of the general channels? |
| 17:08.24 | STMelon | Avic, https://wiki.debian.org/freenx |
| 17:08.47 | Avic | Couldn't find any package whose name or description matched "freenx" |
| 17:09.01 | Avic | i'm seeing that guide |
| 17:09.17 | heurist` | farmbuyer: #debian-next on irc.oftc.net might be an appropriate place if you want to ask about systemd as it will be in the next stable release. |
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| 17:09.39 | STMelon | u running ubuntu? |
| 17:10.15 | farmbuyer | heurist`: thanks, I'll check that out. I've installed systemd (but not systemd-sysv) on my sid box, and booting with init=/bin/ssytemd, but there's something weird with the shutdown sequence that I wanted to ask about. |
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| 17:11.03 | STMelon | you dont have the correct repos |
| 17:11.06 | STMelon | http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/freenx.htm |
| 17:11.12 | somiaj | wibrt: this is a #debian channel, we do not support mint or how they install packages. debian doens't install non-free firmware packages by default |
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| 17:11.24 | STMelon | Avic, http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/freenx.htm |
| 17:11.29 | kalina200 | hi |
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| 17:16.54 | Car-Seller | http://www.desura.com/games/dragonfly-racer Buy this game for only £1.99 |
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| 17:23.07 | bsdbeard | wut |
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| 17:26.39 | xk05 | whoa, huge wall of debian packages c/o mate desktop |
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| 17:26.56 | boairc | hi |
| 17:27.53 | boairc | debian 7 x32, mysql 5.6 - i get a notice when i start mysql server about using $HOME - in /etc/passwd mysql home dir is /undefined or something. what should be the proper home dir for user 'mysql' ? |
| 17:29.17 | heurist` | boairc: /nonexistent is correct for mysql's home |
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| 17:29.48 | boairc | yes, /nonexistent but i get this notice when i start the daemon |
| 17:30.02 | boairc | so should i mkdir /nonexistent |
| 17:30.02 | boairc | ? |
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| 17:30.20 | farmbuyer | Only if you name it /existent. |
| 17:30.22 | heurist` | dpkg: tell boairc -about details |
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| 17:30.59 | heurist` | boairc: no, you should not create that directory. |
| 17:31.19 | waressea1cher2 | that one helped http://superuser.com/questions/626606/how-to-make-alsa-pick-a-preferred-sound-device-automatically |
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| 17:33.39 | boairc | so full details are: uname -a - 3.2.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.2.54-2 i686; /etc/init.d/mysql start - Starting MySQL database server: mysqldNo directory, logging in with HOME=/ |
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| 17:34.00 | boairc | so that is ok? i should leave it as is and not touch mysql user home dir? |
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| 17:34.22 | boairc | on some forum somebody said mysql home dir should be /usr/lib/mysql |
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| 17:36.17 | jmcnaught | boairc: the debian package would create the mysql user with the correct home directory. why are you logging in with HOME=/? |
| 17:36.20 | heurist` | boairc: your version (mysql 5.6) is not in debian, not sure we can help you if you are not using the software provided by debian. |
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| 17:36.52 | boairc | mysql 5.6 is because i'm using the dotdeb /apt/sources.list |
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| 17:37.01 | boairc | that's dotdeb repo |
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| 17:37.18 | boairc | ok. thanks for your help |
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| 17:38.35 | xreal | This guy never came back from his holidays, did he? https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=8780 |
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| 17:39.39 | farmbuyer | damn, I want a 17-year holiday |
| 17:40.09 | xreal | ah wait, he removed xserver ... I thought, he requested to install xserver :) |
| 17:40.12 | xreal | my fault |
| 17:40.41 | erore | How do I install a package from backports? I added backports to sources list, but when I do apt-get -s install samba it still tries to install the version that is not from the backports |
| 17:41.23 | jmcnaught | erore: "apt-get -t wheezy-backports install samba" will tell it to select the version from backports |
| 17:42.12 | erore | jmcnaught: what does -t do? I cannot find it in help |
| 17:42.49 | jmcnaught | erore: did you search for "-t" in the apt-get man page? It means target release |
| 17:42.58 | heurist` | erore: see man apt-get look for --target-release |
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| 17:43.41 | erore | thank you |
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| 17:51.25 | da3m0n22 | dealing with CVE-2014-0224 should be simply matter of upgrading libssl1.0.0 and openssl packages, isn't it? |
| 17:52.09 | petn-randall | da3m0n22: You need to restart the services using that lib, too. |
| 17:52.42 | xreal | Is NX still the best way to send an X-Server through the web (to a Windows machine)? |
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| 17:53.33 | da3m0n22 | petn-randall: i've done full server restart, but still reporting as vulnerable (libssl1.0.0 1.0.1e-2+deb7u13, openssl 1.0.1j-1) |
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| 17:54.16 | TomasCZ | Hello, is xend missing in jessie and wheezy? I am running into problem with jessie Xen-4.4 ideas? |
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| 17:54.36 | petn-randall | da3m0n22: How are you testing it? |
| 17:55.12 | petn-randall | da3m0n22: openssl 1.0.1j-1 is not in wheezy, where did you get that from? |
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| 17:56.10 | da3m0n22 | petn-randall: both qualys ssllabs and detection script from (http://www.tripwire.com/state-of-security/incident-detection/detection-script-for-cve-2014-0224-openssl-cipher-change-spec-injection/) |
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| 17:58.40 | da3m0n22 | petn-randall: it's from testing, however 1.0.1e-2+deb7u13 is reported as broken too |
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| 17:59.42 | da3m0n22 | which should be fixed by status here: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2014-0224 |
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| 18:03.18 | da3m0n22 | petn-randall: oh, i found it |
| 18:03.30 | bsdbeard | heurist`, hey, I've switched to keychain as you've reccomended, but I don't understand why it asks for an ssh private key password at login, is it possible to make it ask this only if I actually use ssh (and then remember this password until I log off) |
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| 18:03.48 | da3m0n22 | petn-randall: having installed `mod-spdy-beta` triggered tests to report exploitability |
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| 18:04.14 | petn-randall | da3m0n22: Ah, good to see you found the cause. |
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| 18:06.03 | heurist` | bsdbeard: it does not ask me until I first use a key, but these day I only use gpg-agent and not ssh-agent, mainly because gpg-agent has the option to store the ssh key password for a time and then forget it. remembering till you log out is hardly safe. |
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| 18:07.05 | bsdbeard | heurist`, unless I'm missing something, the -t option does that, i.e. ssh-add -t 7200 ~/.ssh/id_rsa |
| 18:07.12 | bsdbeard | it will forget in 2 hours |
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| 18:07.51 | heurist` | bsdbeard: that makes it forget the keys not the passphrases. |
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| 18:07.59 | bsdbeard | oh |
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| 18:09.51 | bsdbeard | heurist`, well, I guess I'll just switch to gpg-agent with --enable-ssh-support, since keychain asks my ssh privkey at launch before I ever use ssh, (maybe I'm running it wrong? in .xinitrc: eval $(keychain --eval id_rsa) ) |
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| 18:11.18 | heurist` | bsdbeard: it should be running automatically due to /etc/X11/Xsession.d/80keychain there should be no need to fiddle with .xinitrc |
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| 18:11.46 | bsdbeard | uhh |
| 18:12.19 | bsdbeard | it definitely does not run automatically if I remove it from xinitrc |
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| 18:14.07 | heurist` | bsdbeard: look in /etc/X11/Xsession.d/80keychain there are some test to make sure your agents are configured and able before it runs. maybe look in there for how it is run there appears to be a --noask option, but I have not looked at this software in many years. |
| 18:14.45 | bsdbeard | 80keychain does not exist in that dir |
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| 18:16.06 | heurist` | bsdbeard: you are correct, it is not there by default (/shameonme) you need to copy /usr/share/doc/keychain/examples/keychain.xsession to there as per the docs. |
| 18:16.47 | bsdbeard | oh thanks, indeed it has --noask in it |
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| 18:19.19 | bsdbeard | heurist`, so the script /etc/X11/Xsession runs every file in Xsession.d when I run startx? |
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| 18:20.11 | bsdbeard | and presumably the number before each file represents the order in which they have to be called |
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| 18:20.56 | heurist` | bsdbeard: startx and .xinitrc are a bit warty, sometimes using startx or having .xinitrc make other things not run. same as .bash_profile preventing .profile from running. you would need to test. I have not used startx in a long time either. |
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| 18:21.49 | heurist` | bsdbeard: it is standard behaviour to run them in alphabetical order, so the numbers control which runs when. |
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| 18:25.39 | bsdbeard | im gonna restart X and see what happens |
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| 18:28.33 | bsdbeard | definitely doesn't work, asks my password every time :( |
| 18:29.19 | heurist` | bsdbeard: maybe that is because ssh-add needs the password to even think about adding the key. |
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| 18:30.03 | bsdbeard | heurist`, I thought it would work the way gpg-agent works, i.e. I sign some file, it calls pinentry-curses for me to enter my password and then remembers it |
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| 18:30.39 | heurist` | bsdbeard: ssh-agent is *very* simple(-minded) I just use gpg-agent for both. |
| 18:30.44 | bsdbeard | ok |
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| 18:38.02 | doebi | my sd card gets mounted, but not writeable for my current user. how can i fix that? |
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| 18:38.40 | marioxcc | doebi: if you're mounting it with something else than mount, you will have to configure that program |
| 18:39.03 | marioxcc | use chmod to change the permissions |
| 18:39.20 | marioxcc | for instance, chmod 555 to make a directory world-readable. |
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| 18:40.11 | bsdbeard | doebi, I had that problem with some filesytstems... had to do -o umask=0 |
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| 18:41.33 | bsdbeard | heurist`, I've tried making this work with gpg-agent, followed the instructions in the man page (used --enable-ssh-support and exported SSH_AUTH_SOCK), but it does nothing |
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| 18:42.10 | heurist` | bsdbeard: did you add the ssh keys? |
| 18:42.31 | bsdbeard | heurist`, through ssh-add id_rsa? |
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| 18:43.13 | doebi | i just plugged it in, gnome mounted it. and thanks chown fixed it. but will i have to do it anytime? that would suck... |
| 18:44.27 | jhutchins_wk | doebi: You can add an entry to fstab, using either the device name or the UUID for the card, that will mount it user writable. |
| 18:44.33 | bsdbeard | doebi, you can add an umask to /etc/fstab for that sd card |
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| 18:46.22 | heurist` | bsdbeard: make sure you are also running ssh-agent, if ssh-agent is running then gpg-agent might not handle the ssh keys |
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| 18:47.16 | sdl5 | How is it possible to generate high quality entropy for gpg key generation without having a mouse or keyboard for example via SSH on a server? |
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| 18:47.34 | bsdbeard | sdl5, run find in some large directory |
| 18:47.40 | bsdbeard | basically make your hdd spin |
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| 18:48.43 | heurist` | sdl5: the "quality" of any entropy is always debatable, but haveged has a good reputations as an entropy daemon |
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| 18:50.46 | bsdbeard | ,v haveged |
| 18:50.48 | judd | Package: haveged on i386 -- squeeze-backports: 1.1-2~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1.4-4; wheezy-backports: 1.9.1-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.9.1-1; sid: 1.9.1-1 |
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| 18:51.55 | kimbo1 | what does the +1 behind bepoXX represent? |
| 18:52.38 | jelly-home | sdl5: generate disk io, network traffic, have a CPU with hardware random generator (but then you wouldn't be asking this) |
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| 18:54.11 | farmbuyer | sdl5: buy DVDs of digital white noise collected from the Aricebo radio telescope |
| 18:54.23 | rozie | just use havaged ;) |
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| 18:56.22 | jelly-home | haveged is nice on machines with a large amount of entropy consumers |
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| 18:58.01 | jelly-home | but I'm not knowledgeable enough to say whether the randomness haveged generates is any good or not |
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| 19:40.46 | Eduard_Munteanu | Hi, asterismo |
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| 19:42.06 | asterismo | i'm trying to add some online radios to Kradio4 in KDE |
| 19:42.18 | asterismo | some stream URL addresses so not load |
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| 19:44.13 | talin | hello. why is debian called the universal operating system? |
| 19:44.50 | marvin-hh | talin: because of marketing. |
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| 19:45.19 | marvin-hh | talin: Debian is not the universal operating system nor will it likely ever be. |
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| 19:45.41 | talin | marvin-hh: i just don't see what universal means :-) |
| 19:45.54 | farmbuyer | "runs on a lot of hardware" |
| 19:45.56 | talin | marvin-hh: desktop AND server? that kind of universal? |
| 19:45.57 | dondelelcaro | talin: it means that it will run on lots of devices, and do lots of different things. |
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| 19:46.00 | talin | aah |
| 19:46.09 | talin | that makes sense. thanks |
| 19:46.12 | marvin-hh | It is *a* distribution which has no innovation going on and just packages a bunch of packages and has some infrastructure and people for managing that. |
| 19:46.19 | equex | its the best OS in the universe :p |
| 19:46.22 | jelly-home | marvin-hh: do you have a tech support question? |
| 19:46.30 | farmbuyer | Most OSes can't run on an x86, a powerpc, a playstation, etc. |
| 19:46.34 | marvin-hh | jelly-home: I was answering one. |
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| 19:46.46 | talin | farmbuyer: i see. kinda like netbsd, then |
| 19:46.48 | neon_waves | hello everyone |
| 19:46.57 | marvin-hh | jelly-home: do you? |
| 19:47.10 | jelly-home | marvin-hh: no, I'm checking potential trolls. |
| 19:47.11 | talin | marvin-hh: no innovation? sounds like a pretty solid server distro. i use it for desktop as well, though, and it's really nice |
| 19:47.11 | neon_waves | i am looking forward to start with java |
| 19:47.21 | neon_waves | i have downloaded netbeans and eclipse |
| 19:47.22 | marvin-hh | dondelelcaro: that's not what universal means, btw. |
| 19:47.31 | farmbuyer | talin: like that, yes. NetBSD takes the portability goal even farther. Yesterday my cat coughed up something that was already compatible with NetBSD. |
| 19:47.34 | marvin-hh | That's why it is a marketing term; it's a lie. |
| 19:47.39 | dondelelcaro | marvin-hh: it's what Debian means by universal. |
| 19:47.42 | talin | farmbuyer: haha! |
| 19:47.49 | neon_waves | now how to at java path to bashrc? |
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| 19:48.07 | dondelelcaro | marvin-hh: it's a goal, actually. |
| 19:48.16 | marvin-hh | dondelelcaro: the English word for that is "versatile", not "universal". |
| 19:48.17 | neon_waves | supposedly i need to to add the java home path in my bashrc? |
| 19:48.17 | talin | dondelelcaro: sounds great |
| 19:48.29 | marvin-hh | dondelelcaro: if something is a goal, you don't say that it "is" already that. |
| 19:49.11 | marvin-hh | dondelelcaro: anyway, I don't think it's a good idea to lie to users; it gives a bad taste when they find out that Debian is not as universal as advertised. |
| 19:49.12 | neon_waves | can someone please help ? |
| 19:49.26 | dondelelcaro | marvin-hh: it's a slogan. it's been our slogan for a very long time. |
| 19:49.36 | neon_waves | i like debian |
| 19:49.36 | marvin-hh | dondelelcaro: doesn't make it less true. |
| 19:49.41 | farmbuyer | neon_waves: try just typing "PATH=$PATH:/where/you/installed/your/own/JDK" on the command line, and then run your other programs from that same command line. It will let you test whether you got the path right before you potentially mess up your .bashrc. |
| 19:50.13 | dondelelcaro | neon_waves: is there any reason why you don't just install the debian eclipse packages? |
| 19:50.17 | marvin-hh | dondelelcaro: you are free to say that you think it's better to lie to people in your slogan for the Debian brand. |
| 19:50.23 | dondelelcaro | neon_waves: they should depend on the appropriate JDK et al. |
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| 19:50.46 | nkuttler | marvin-hh: please take it to #debian-offtopic, or just drop it |
| 19:50.48 | nkuttler | oh well |
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| 19:52.33 | farmbuyer | neon_waves: if you didn't install Java yourself, then it's not on the system yet. Best thing would be to just install the Debian packages rather than downloading your own, unless you're doing something unusual. |
| 19:52.44 | farmbuyer | Then the PATH is already taken care of. |
| 19:52.46 | richac | marvin-hh: debian is the most "maleable" if thats a better word for you lol |
| 19:53.00 | richac | compared to all the other distros its the most "open" |
| 19:53.03 | acz32 | is it true that debian stable is more secure than arch due to having more stable software with security patches? they say bleeding edge is secure because it mean's you don't need a security team if all software is up to date |
| 19:53.30 | dondelelcaro | acz32: it depends |
| 19:53.39 | richac | acz32: its debatable either way lol, i'd lean towards stable |
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| 19:53.54 | dondelelcaro | acz32: I'm not sure if arch follows vendor sec, for example. But then again, newer versions may fix security bugs which don't get a CVE. |
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| 19:54.10 | richac | dondelelcaro: and open new ones |
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| 19:54.15 | farmbuyer | neon_waves: don't use PMs please. |
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| 19:54.25 | acz32 | dondelelcaro: ya i guess an argument can be made for either side |
| 19:54.41 | dondelelcaro | acz32: right. Usually the argument for stable is one of production use |
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| 19:54.52 | farmbuyer | neon_waves: if you're not using Debian packages, then there's no way for any dependances to take place; the Debian package manager is what would normally do that for you. |
| 19:55.21 | farmbuyer | neon_waves: Unless what you're downloading contains its own JDK/JRE, in which case there's nothing for Debian to do. |
| 19:55.35 | acz32 | the arch user repository seems kind of dangerous though. anyone can submit malicious code if they want to. most people probably won't read before installing |
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| 19:55.58 | somiaj | acz32: we have debian sid to try to filter that out....and to break things! (: |
| 19:56.21 | farmbuyer | neon_waves: type in this channel, not in private messages. |
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| 19:56.27 | acz32 | somiaj: has malicous code been found in sid before? |
| 19:56.29 | neon_waves | ok |
| 19:56.40 | neon_waves | sorry farmbuyer |
| 19:56.50 | dondelelcaro | acz32: yes. |
| 19:56.51 | somiaj | acz32: there are some long past bugs in sid that wiped peoples hds, though I haven't seen anything this grave in 15+ years. |
| 19:57.02 | neon_waves | i was looking for eclipse and netbeans it was found and installed |
| 19:57.16 | dondelelcaro | acz32: in this case, it was malicious code planted by an upstream developer, and not by a package maintainer |
| 19:57.28 | neon_waves | now i am looking to add a path in bashrc |
| 19:57.39 | acz32 | interesting |
| 19:57.47 | neon_waves | but i do not know where the jdk and jre are located |
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| 19:58.05 | farmbuyer | neon_waves: what happens if you type "which eclipse" at a command line now? |
| 19:58.09 | acz32 | i use stable myself. backports usually has what i need, except thunar. |
| 19:58.14 | somiaj | acz32: but I haven't seen anything that grave in years. |
| 19:58.15 | neon_waves | wait farm |
| 19:58.35 | somiaj | acz32: as in I have never encounted a grave bug that destroyed data on my sid desktop in the 15 years I have been running it |
| 19:58.35 | neon_waves | /usr/bin/java is the output |
| 19:59.02 | acz32 | somiaj: that's good. i hope you never do! |
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| 19:59.39 | neon_waves | so i have to give the path to /usr/bin/java/myversion/bin? |
| 20:00.04 | somiaj | acz32: partly I think the right of passage to be a debian matainer keeps the debian repo fairly clean, though as dondelelcaro pointed out it it isn't flawless. |
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| 20:00.07 | farmbuyer | neon_waves: Try just compiling "hello world" inside Eclipse. You may not need to change anything. |
| 20:00.23 | neon_waves | okay but for netbeans? |
| 20:00.25 | neon_waves | same? |
| 20:01.02 | dondelelcaro | somiaj, acz32: right; we just have so much code that it's not possible to read it all, let alone understand it all. |
| 20:01.04 | neon_waves | I have some books to learn java .I just want to figure out the best ide for me tu use |
| 20:01.20 | dondelelcaro | I used to read the patches upstream, but I don't even have time for that myself |
| 20:01.43 | farmbuyer | neon_waves: only way is to try it and find out :-) |
| 20:01.47 | acz32 | dondelelcaro: i read that fedora has finally just formed a security team. they didn't have one this entire time |
| 20:01.49 | neon_waves | sorry for bothering farmbuyer i am a bloody beginner |
| 20:02.10 | dondelelcaro | neon_waves: it's OK; this channel is the place to ask |
| 20:02.21 | farmbuyer | neon_waves: if they're shipping their own then you don't need to do anything special, give it a try and see what errors happen (if any) |
| 20:02.23 | neon_waves | ok thank you farmbuyer :) |
| 20:02.29 | somiaj | acz32: well I think they relied on RHEL which has one and addressed most major issues they had to deal with. |
| 20:02.48 | neon_waves | ok be right back |
| 20:05.37 | neon_waves | farmbuyer i have to download eclipse i just had downloaded netbeans |
| 20:05.40 | neon_waves | hang on |
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| 20:06.07 | neon_waves | is there any difference anyway? |
| 20:06.28 | neon_waves | thought netbeans is by oracle so it should just be fine? |
| 20:06.36 | usrnix | Hi, is this line correct for backports on wheezy? I can't seem to install a backported package. : deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main |
| 20:07.02 | somiaj | usrnix: did you do apt-get -t wheezy-backports install when tyring to install the package? |
| 20:07.18 | somiaj | usrnix: also you should use http.debian.net over ftp.debian.org |
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| 20:08.45 | Eagle11 | Hi all - I have googled and had no luck so far... I have MATE installed and I want to set it to the system default so when i login I dont have to select it... Seems like it should be a snap but I cant seem to figure out what i am missing... Any help? |
| 20:08.47 | usrnix | somiaj: I did, it's nginx-extras I'm trying to install, 'already at newest version', I have the stable version, maybe I need to uninstall that first |
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| 20:10.16 | neon_waves | Eaglell create an .xinitrc file in your home directory |
| 20:10.31 | neon_waves | if it exist modify it |
| 20:10.38 | somiaj | usrnix: can you share the output of 'apt-cache policy nginx-extras' at paste.debian.net |
| 20:10.51 | somiaj | neon_waves: in debian it is preferable to use .xsession over .xinitrc |
| 20:11.06 | neon_waves | ok |
| 20:11.30 | neon_waves | Eaglell speak to somiaj |
| 20:11.39 | somiaj | Eagle11: either create a .xsession or try 'update-alternatives --config x-window-manager |
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| 20:12.39 | Tobbi | I used "sudo update-rc.d gogs-service defaults" on raspbian to make the gogs-service start on boot, however, this doesn't work. Any idea why? |
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| 20:13.02 | neon_waves | Sorry Eaglell almost gave you wrong info |
| 20:13.26 | Eagle11 | Thanks guys! |
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| 20:15.01 | neon_waves | farmbuyer i have another question , do I have to chown the java directory ? |
| 20:15.18 | neon_waves | eclipse now ready , lets see |
| 20:16.19 | Tobbi | Also, when I start that service manually, it all works. |
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| 20:18.28 | somiaj | Tobbi: we don't support raspbian here, only pure debian |
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| 20:18.31 | somiaj | !raspbian |
| 20:18.31 | dpkg | Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/ |
| 20:18.43 | Tobbi | somiaj: Oh, alright, thanks. |
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| 20:23.00 | neon_waves | farmbuyer nevermind , i am too dumb for this |
| 20:23.05 | neon_waves | thx anyway |
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| 20:23.46 | gms | hi all. Evince can't decyrpt a protected pdf file. What can I do ? |
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| 20:40.18 | hesco | how do I query a system for the currently configured timezone? I'm assumming that is not necessarily the same as the contents of /etc/timezone. |
| 20:40.49 | valdyn | hesco: but it is |
| 20:41.21 | somiaj | hesco: if you want to know what debconf thinks, 'dpkg-reconfigure tzdata' but all this does is alter filies in e/tc |
| 20:41.27 | hesco | My understanding is that once the tz is set in that file, that you then have to run dpkg-reconfigure |
| 20:41.37 | valdyn | hesco: no |
| 20:41.43 | abrotman | hesco: can you not just parse 'date' ? |
| 20:42.04 | hesco | I guess I could, lets see if that does the trick. |
| 20:42.17 | abrotman | hesco: date '+%Z' |
| 20:42.20 | somiaj | hesco: you don't have to use dpkg-reconfigure to configure things. It is just one method over modifying the correct config files. |
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| 20:43.19 | hesco | somiaj: so the dpkg-reconfigure is setting the contents of that file, not reding that file and setting something in /proc for the currently running system? |
| 20:43.37 | hesco | abrotman: I need the string: America/New_York, not EDT |
| 20:43.47 | abrotman | hesco: then yes, /etc/timezone |
| 20:43.50 | hesco | s/reding/reading/ |
| 20:44.03 | hesco | ok, thanks. |
| 20:44.18 | abrotman | timezone isn't "America/New_York" ;) |
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| 20:52.14 | hesco | and my next question on time is: how do I force ntp to immediately converge with its time servers, rather than to slowly correct for drift over time. I need to sync servers now, not over the next few days. Am I misunderstanding how ntp works? |
| 20:52.47 | valdyn | hesco: just use ntpdate once |
| 20:53.02 | hesco | thanks valdyn |
| 20:53.07 | hesco | trying that now |
| 20:53.21 | valdyn | hesco: ntp tried to be safe.. ntpdate does not |
| 20:53.50 | hesco | so is there a way to query the ntp pool to see if its out of sync, before running that command? |
| 20:53.52 | heurist` | hesco: ntpd -g |
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| 20:54.18 | hesco | I'm writing a puppet manifest and need an unless attribute so I don't see this on every run. |
| 20:54.24 | hesco | thanks, will try that |
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| 20:54.46 | heurist` | dpkg: tell valdyn -about ntpdate |
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| 20:54.52 | heurist` | valdyn: ntpdate is no more. |
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| 20:55.39 | jelly-home | hesco: that -g can be put into /etc/default/ntp |
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| 20:56.04 | valdyn | heurist`: why would you think that? |
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| 20:56.24 | heurist` | valdyn: because the bot told us so? |
| 20:57.12 | hesco | valdyn, and man ntpd says the same for the -g switch |
| 20:57.20 | hesco | thanks heurist` |
| 20:57.37 | valdyn | hesco: that bot is wrong |
| 20:57.50 | valdyn | heurist`: ^^ |
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| 20:59.33 | heurist` | valdyn: could be. anything is possible. the man page agrees with it though. |
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| 21:03.33 | TheSin | anyone here knows anythign about jetty-solr, in testing jetty recently went to jetty8 form 6, and I can NOT get solr to run anymore, is this known? is there a work around? |
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| 21:10.56 | Avic | hello, i tried to use the nomachine in my server using this guide:http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/a-guide-to-set-nomachine-nx-3-5-x-up-on-debian-wheezy-and-possibly-others-917816/ Now I end up beeing out of the server... cant access it through ssh... just with the nx user ... Do i need to install everything again.. |
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| 21:14.07 | Avic | ./usr/NX/bin/nxserver --useradd yourusername |
| 21:14.27 | Avic | passwd nx |
| 21:14.27 | Avic | usermod --unlock nx |
| 21:14.39 | Avic | what i did really with this? |
| 21:15.21 | Avic | now i don't have access using my sudo pass |
| 21:15.29 | Avic | or root |
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| 21:17.56 | heurist` | Avic: installing packages from outside of debian and following random guides is a good way to get your machine to stop working. reinstalling is often the simplest solution. |
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| 21:18.18 | Avic | yep... |
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| 21:18.41 | Avic | does debian have othe nx? |
| 21:18.52 | CCFL_Man | heurist`: that is the truth |
| 21:19.19 | Avic | does debian have nx protocol? |
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| 21:21.59 | heurist` | Avic: it has nxproxy (client), but that all I know of. |
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| 21:23.50 | Avic | i will instalçl everything again |
| 21:24.04 | Avic | but i want to use nx |
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| 21:29.49 | usr3 | i need to add a font to my jessie install. just one font, what is the best way to do that? |
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| 21:30.48 | heurist` | usr3: questions about jessie are better addressed to #debian-next on irc.oftc.net. but can you not just install the font? |
| 21:31.18 | usr3 | it's a windows tt font for comic book text |
| 21:32.09 | valdyn | usr3: you can copy that font to ~/.fonts/ |
| 21:32.27 | usr3 | i see, let me try that |
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| 21:33.11 | valdyn | usr3: in linux theres no system font settings, but modern programs will find it in ~/.fonts/ |
| 21:33.25 | heurist` | usr3: is it not provided by the ttf-mscorefonts-installer package? |
| 21:33.35 | usr3 | yeah, am using gimp so it'll probaly work |
| 21:33.59 | Wulf | hi |
| 21:34.07 | Wulf | How can I start or stop a single openvpn connection? |
| 21:34.28 | valdyn | Wulf: read the documentation |
| 21:34.44 | usr3 | it's not an ms font |
| 21:35.13 | usr3 | i don't have a .font directory in home, just create it? |
| 21:35.29 | valdyn | usr3: .fonts , yes, create it |
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| 21:36.16 | Wulf | valdyn: thank you. I didn't realize the command syntax was changed. |
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| 21:38.14 | usr3 | worked like a charm, thanks much! |
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| 21:39.10 | valdyn | Wulf: you can also use /etc/network/interfaces |
| 21:39.18 | r00t_ | Heyho guys |
| 21:39.36 | bsdbeard | r00t_, hi |
| 21:39.38 | Avic | well, does anyone have a way to install nx server in debian that is not nomachine site download? freenx? Thanks |
| 21:39.48 | r00t_ | i see you're already talking about network issues? ^^ |
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| 21:42.21 | Wulf | valdyn: got a broadcast message to all terminals now: Password entry required for 'Enter Auth Username:' (PID 16774). Please enter password with the systemd-tty-ask-password-agent tool! |
| 21:42.38 | r00t_ | so... the folks in #crunchbang just sent me here, i'mhaving some weird issues with my internet connection |
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| 21:43.02 | bsdbeard | r00t_, what issues |
| 21:43.33 | r00t_ | the connection seems to drop every ~20 seconds |
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| 21:44.12 | r00t_ | already upgraded my kernel, bought a new wifi adapter and tried prettymuch everything |
| 21:44.56 | bsdbeard | r00t_, how do you connect to wifi? |
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| 21:45.10 | r00t_ | it seems to peak at around 5-600 kb/s, then drops to 0 for a second and repeats |
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| 21:45.46 | r00t_ | i'm currently using the adapter i got in the mail today, alfa awus036h |
| 21:46.03 | bsdbeard | i mean on the software side, try nmcli dev wifi connect gateway-name password yourpass |
| 21:46.17 | r00t_ | had the same issues with the built in wifi card in the laptop tho |
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| 21:47.42 | r00t_ | it worked fine on windows, if that matters |
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| 21:50.02 | ompaul | r00t_: which kernel version |
| 21:50.09 | r00t_ | 3.16 |
| 21:50.30 | ompaul | r00t_: d-u up to date? |
| 21:50.45 | r00t_ | wait what? |
| 21:50.55 | ompaul | no waiting |
| 21:51.04 | ompaul | did you dist-upgrade it today |
| 21:51.15 | r00t_ | positive |
| 21:51.40 | r00t_ | everything up to date |
| 21:52.10 | ompaul | how close are you to the route |
| 21:52.12 | ompaul | how close are you to the router |
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| 21:52.53 | r00t_ | my personal router is max 10 meters away |
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| 21:53.29 | ompaul | what happens if you wget an iso file with a couple of hundred megs from nearby server? |
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| 21:53.37 | r00t_ | been playing around with 3 different connections tho, they're all well within range of the 1000mw card |
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| 21:57.59 | ompaul | so - no answer to that last question |
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| 22:09.34 | grafdiffuzor | Hi all. I'm on jessie and Xorg process consumes from ~40% to ~98% cpu, while running xscreensaver, according to top. Using fglrx drivers and 3.14 kernel. Is it something known? |
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| 22:09.49 | rgr | depends on the screensaver |
| 22:10.05 | rgr | but no. HW acceleration should be fine. |
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| 22:10.15 | rgr | oh ATI. Good luck with that. |
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| 22:10.47 | grafdiffuzor | And I've been noticing some graphical lags in unusual places, like letters appearing as if in slow motion in Chrome omnibar. |
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| 22:11.34 | rgr | Its unlikely to be a Jessie thing. Your HW and video driver. I wouldnt bring ATI anywhere near Linux personally but YMMV etc. |
| 22:12.54 | grafdiffuzor | rgr Unlikely, because there were no similar issues prior to dist-upgrade from Wheezy. |
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| 22:13.21 | heurist` | grafdiffuzor: questions about jessie are better addressed to #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
| 22:14.28 | grafdiffuzor | ok |
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| 22:15.24 | somiaj | grafdiffuzor: do you have linux-firmware-nonfree installed? |
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| 22:16.20 | grafdiffuzor | somiaj no. |
| 22:17.48 | grafdiffuzor | seems like something specific, because I can watch video ok, etc (mplayer at 6.6%, xorg at 7.3%) |
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| 22:20.55 | somiaj | grafdiffuzor: what driver are you using? |
| 22:21.16 | somiaj | grafdiffuzor: nevermind got it in the scroll. How did you install fgrlx? |
| 22:21.38 | somiaj | grafdiffuzor: my first question was off, you only need that package for the radeon free driver, but non-free fglrx provides its own firmware |
| 22:22.18 | grafdiffuzor | apt-get install fglrx... version is 1:14.9+ga14.201-1 |
| 22:22.47 | somiaj | ,v fglrx-driver |
| 22:22.49 | judd | Package: fglrx-driver on i386 -- squeeze/non-free: 1:10-9-3squeeze1; wheezy/non-free: 1:12-6+point-3; wheezy-backports/non-free: 1:13.12-4~bpo70+1; jessie/non-free: 1:14.9+ga14.201-1; sid/non-free: 1:14.9+ga14.201-2 |
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| 22:35.41 | bsdbeard | #mutt is empty :( Is there any way to view the pgp encrypted version of my mail? mutt automatically decrypts it |
| 22:36.04 | abrotman | view the raw file from where mutt reads it |
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| 22:37.31 | bsdbeard | I guess I'll have to grep the maildir, the filenames are utf7 encrypted =/ |
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| 22:41.18 | bsdbeard | abrotman, found it, would be nice if mutt had an option to unencrypt the messages |
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| 22:41.59 | koldus | hi guys, i'm looking to start a service on specific tty on startup. it's possible? |
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| 22:46.18 | abrotman | bsdbeard: it probably does |
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| 22:48.38 | bsdbeard | abrotman, I searched in the help and it shows just 2 pgp related keybindings, p for the pgp menu and <ESC>k to mail a pgp public key |
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| 22:50.52 | abrotman | bsdbeard: okay |
| 22:51.07 | abrotman | kolduornot |
| 22:51.40 | heurist` | bsdbeard: have not tested this, but: http://www.mutt.org/doc/devel/manual.html#pgp-auto-decode |
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| 22:57.24 | bsdbeard | heurist`, no change with that option set to "no" |
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| 22:58.19 | heurist` | bsdbeard: ya, that page says "no" is the default. was worth a shot. can you save it to the filesystem with s ? |
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| 22:59.11 | heurist` | bsdbeard: that would probably be v s |
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| 22:59.52 | bsdbeard | heurist`, if I save the attachment it's already decrypted :/ |
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| 23:01.10 | heurist` | bsdbeard: program being to helpful for your liking? (: |
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| 23:01.21 | bsdbeard | heh |
| 23:02.05 | bsdbeard | mutt does a lot of things automatically and that confuses me sometimes :-) |
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| 23:37.08 | d3lphi | hi all. On some Debian hosts after I connected through ssh and entered the login username, I have a delay of ~4-5 seconds until the password prompt appears. Why? |
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| 23:39.40 | p0g0 | d3lphi: gathering adequate entropy? |
| 23:39.49 | d3lphi | p0g0: how do I know? |
| 23:40.05 | abrotman | d3lphi: reverse DNS |
| 23:40.16 | d3lphi | p0g0: I have many other Debian VMs running on the same Xenserver, and it cannot be a connection issue. |
| 23:40.47 | p0g0 | not sure, but the random number generator needs to be content that it has genuine pseudo-randomness. |
| 23:40.53 | abrotman | d3lphi: reverse DNS |
| 23:41.11 | d3lphi | abrotman: none of my machines have existing PTR records, so that cannot be the reason, too |
| 23:41.13 | p0g0 | ah, see the fellow that knows...^ |
| 23:41.31 | abrotman | d3lphi: they can be in your hosts file |
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| 23:42.09 | zoku | dpkg keeps getting stuck in configuring libgcc1 |
| 23:42.09 | dpkg | zoku: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 23:42.10 | d3lphi | abrotman I am ssh'ing from my workstation, and my workstation cannot reverse resolve the IP of the several Debian VM |
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| 23:42.16 | zoku | lol dpkg |
| 23:42.37 | abrotman | d3lphi: Okay, then we'll wait for more info from you |
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| 23:42.56 | zoku | I've tried creating a .deb without any postinst, as libgcc1 postinst only creates the doc symlinks, but it still gets stuck eating CPU and memory until OOM |
| 23:43.28 | d3lphi | abrotman: it does not change anything, even when I use the IP address for connectin to the particular host |
| 23:43.54 | d3lphi | can it be somehow pam related? but then I wonder myself why some machines work fine and some not |
| 23:44.10 | abrotman | d3lphi: you haven't provided any logs or anything useful, you were given two possibilities. We'll wait for logs |
| 23:44.30 | d3lphi | which file does log such attempts? |
| 23:44.54 | darthanubis | I removed a package that now makes hdparm an autoremoveable |
| 23:45.54 | darthanubis | I'm wondering what package is a core desktop package that would keep libreoffice, hdparm, x11-apps from being autoremovable |
| 23:45.56 | darthanubis | ? |
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| 23:46.23 | d3lphi | abrotman: "tail -f /var/log/*.log" didn't output anything during the login, except the auth.log, but it's not meaningful which lead in helping me to find out where the delay come from |
| 23:46.39 | abrotman | not meaningful to you? or to anyone? |
| 23:46.58 | petemc | d3lphi: you can run sshd in debug mode /msg dpkg debug sshd |
| 23:47.00 | d3lphi | abrotman: the auth.log only outputted lines, AFTER the login |
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| 23:47.12 | d3lphi | petemc: I'll give a try, thanks for the hint |
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