| 00:00.49 | *** join/#debian der_Metzger (~hyperion@c-98-196-180-174.hsd1.tx.comcast.net) |
| 00:00.50 | *** join/#debian linuxuz3r (~linuxuz3r@2602:306:bd2a:a160:c552:eea2:5860:4778) |
| 00:00.51 | adh0c | jelly-home: I've gone over it all with a comb and it's still giving me "ssh_exchange_identification: Connection closed by remote host" when testing the ssh connection. |
| 00:01.37 | tay | sand3r: you can use rfkill somehow |
| 00:01.38 | tay | although the issue seems to be more to do with terminal version of vim (not gtk) |
| 00:01.40 | *** join/#debian Ryushin (~Ryushin@gateway/tor-sasl/ryushin) |
| 00:01.56 | adh0c | Setting verbose flag shows debug1 checking the host key identity files before returning that ssh_exchange_identification error. |
| 00:02.14 | jelly-home | adh0c: hm. does telnet localhost 10022 work on bastion? |
| 00:02.50 | jelly-home | if it doesn't show the ssh banner (for host2), it's possible -R is forbidden on bastion\ |
| 00:02.53 | adh0c | It returns 'Connected to localhost / Escape character is '^]'. / Connection closed by foreign host." |
| 00:03.23 | jelly-home | adh0c: host2 needs to have localhost or 127.0.0.1 added to /etc/hosts.allow sshd: line |
| 00:03.37 | jelly-home | debian builds sshd with tcp_wrappers |
| 00:04.09 | jelly-home | adh0c: in other words, ssh localhost should work on host2 |
| 00:04.12 | *** join/#debian pacbard_ (~pacbard@108-251-142-152.lightspeed.frokca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 00:04.40 | jelly-home | if that works, then dunno |
| 00:04.59 | *** join/#debian corey84- (~Corey84@unaffiliated/corey84) |
| 00:05.30 | *** join/#debian s8321414 (~s8321414@140.127.73.81) |
| 00:05.35 | *** join/#debian tay_ (~tay@82.118.242.11) |
| 00:05.48 | *** join/#debian lostcoffee (~lostcoffe@gateway/tor-sasl/lostcoffee) |
| 00:06.24 | adh0c | Still no beans. |
| 00:06.38 | adh0c | This must be due to either sshd or firewall config on the bastion. |
| 00:06.53 | *** join/#debian Eisspin (~smuxi@chello212186162084.11.vie.surfer.at) |
| 00:07.29 | heurist` | tay: try :set nocompatible |
| 00:08.08 | jelly-home | I don't think it's an issue at bastion, if -R didn't work there would be no listener on bastion localhost:10022 at all |
| 00:08.12 | *** join/#debian philipballew (~philip@ubuntu/member/philipballew) |
| 00:08.15 | *** join/#debian mortale (~mortale@gateway/tor-sasl/mortale) |
| 00:08.32 | tay | heurist`: let me try |
| 00:08.32 | jelly-home | but I guess the admin may be blocking -L for whatever reason |
| 00:08.53 | *** join/#debian Yukiteru (~Yukiteru@190.203.76.194) |
| 00:08.53 | *** join/#debian Yukiteru (~Yukiteru@unaffiliated/yukiteru) |
| 00:09.09 | tay | heurist`: bizarre, no luck |
| 00:09.10 | jelly-home | adh0c: bedtime here. Good luck. |
| 00:09.25 | tay | this just has started, I have not had such issue in last 8 years |
| 00:09.57 | adh0c | jelly-home: Thanks for all your help. |
| 00:09.59 | tay | must be a recent update with something |
| 00:10.22 | *** join/#debian DrRodneyMckay (~drrodneym@202.161.67.166) |
| 00:12.07 | *** join/#debian bagackiz (bagackiz@Why.Is.A.Raven.Like.A.Writing.Desk.PanicBNC.org) |
| 00:13.18 | *** join/#debian dimir (~dimir@83.99.142.86) |
| 00:14.11 | *** join/#debian g33ck00 (~g33ck00@109.201.154.154) |
| 00:15.22 | *** join/#debian brokency1le (~brokencyc@188.29.165.128.threembb.co.uk) |
| 00:17.43 | *** join/#debian bagackiz (bagackiz@Why.Is.A.Raven.Like.A.Writing.Desk.PanicBNC.org) |
| 00:20.10 | *** join/#debian bagackiz (bagackiz@Why.Is.A.Raven.Like.A.Writing.Desk.PanicBNC.org) |
| 00:20.33 | *** join/#debian Nnel (~Nnel@109.144.208.55) |
| 00:20.34 | *** join/#debian Xiti (~Xiti-@unaffiliated/xiti) |
| 00:22.11 | *** join/#debian tedbundyjr (~tedbundyj@210.195.151.66) |
| 00:22.23 | *** join/#debian banjo (~banjo@aftr-37-24-156-24.unity-media.net) |
| 00:22.26 | *** join/#debian bagackiz (bagackiz@Why.Is.A.Raven.Like.A.Writing.Desk.PanicBNC.org) |
| 00:23.53 | *** join/#debian tnguyen (~Thunderbi@73.172.137.24) |
| 00:24.10 | *** join/#debian Corey (~Corey@freenode/staff/corey) |
| 00:24.11 | *** join/#debian infinitum (~infinitum@df-001f-1a30-0005.10ge.i6.sungai.nl) |
| 00:24.38 | *** join/#debian bagackiz (bagackiz@Why.Is.A.Raven.Like.A.Writing.Desk.PanicBNC.org) |
| 00:24.52 | *** join/#debian g33ck00 (~g33ck00@109.201.154.154) |
| 00:25.57 | *** join/#debian bagackiz (bagackiz@Why.Is.A.Raven.Like.A.Writing.Desk.PanicBNC.org) |
| 00:25.58 | *** join/#debian troete (~troete@p5088DFB0.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 00:26.39 | *** join/#debian Ryushin (~Ryushin@gateway/tor-sasl/ryushin) |
| 00:27.34 | *** join/#debian Kulrak (kulrak@C-59-101-14-142.hay.connect.net.au) |
| 00:27.34 | *** join/#debian Kulrak (kulrak@tlug/member/kulrak) |
| 00:27.35 | *** join/#debian roost (~roost@unaffiliated/roost) |
| 00:28.09 | *** join/#debian bagackiz (bagackiz@Why.Is.A.Raven.Like.A.Writing.Desk.PanicBNC.org) |
| 00:28.19 | *** join/#debian cbsw (~Thunderbi@202.38.9.93) |
| 00:28.21 | *** join/#debian break19 (~break19@unaffiliated/break19) |
| 00:28.35 | *** join/#debian thomas (~thomas@freenode/staff/thomas) |
| 00:29.11 | break19 | how do I make networkmanager ignore a wifi hardware switch for the internal wifi device which doesnt work correctly, and NOT DISABLE the usb wifi device when said switch is off.. |
| 00:30.02 | *** join/#debian zenojis (~quassel@2604:3400:dc1:45:216:3eff:fe76:3263) |
| 00:30.20 | *** join/#debian bagackiz (bagackiz@Why.Is.A.Raven.Like.A.Writing.Desk.PanicBNC.org) |
| 00:32.31 | *** join/#debian bagackiz (bagackiz@Why.Is.A.Raven.Like.A.Writing.Desk.PanicBNC.org) |
| 00:33.36 | *** join/#debian mz` (~emerick@shyan.mz23.in) |
| 00:33.47 | *** join/#debian bagackiz (bagackiz@Why.Is.A.Raven.Like.A.Writing.Desk.PanicBNC.org) |
| 00:33.53 | *** join/#debian mz` (~emerick@gandi/mz) |
| 00:34.23 | *** join/#debian daniel-s (~daniel-s@220-244-249-183.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 00:35.25 | Brigo | break19, try urfkill or rfkill |
| 00:35.30 | *** join/#debian flami (~josi@HSI-KBW-078-042-024-121.hsi3.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 00:35.58 | *** join/#debian bagackiz (bagackiz@Why.Is.A.Raven.Like.A.Writing.Desk.PanicBNC.org) |
| 00:36.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1554] by debhelper |
| 00:37.20 | *** part/#debian tay (~tay@82.118.242.11) |
| 00:37.30 | *** join/#debian Niamkik (~Niamkik@s.oci.re) |
| 00:37.46 | *** join/#debian julzmb (~ubuntu@ec2-184-169-220-55.us-west-1.compute.amazonaws.com) |
| 00:38.10 | *** join/#debian bagackiz (bagackiz@Why.Is.A.Raven.Like.A.Writing.Desk.PanicBNC.org) |
| 00:39.00 | *** join/#debian zenojis (~quassel@2604:3400:dc1:45:216:3eff:fe76:3263) |
| 00:43.38 | *** join/#debian zenojis (~quassel@2604:3400:dc1:45:216:3eff:fe76:3263) |
| 00:44.01 | *** join/#debian dreamon_ (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) |
| 00:44.19 | *** join/#debian bagackiz (~bagackiz@Why.Is.A.Raven.Like.A.Writing.Desk.PanicBNC.org) |
| 00:45.11 | *** join/#debian zenojis (~quassel@2604:3400:dc1:45:216:3eff:fe76:3263) |
| 00:45.28 | *** join/#debian kenshin (~kenshin@201.157.6.46) |
| 00:45.30 | *** join/#debian oish (~charlie@159.22.169.217.in-addr.arpa) |
| 00:46.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1541] by debhelper |
| 00:48.55 | *** join/#debian infinitum (~infinitum@df-001f-1a30-0005.10ge.i6.sungai.nl) |
| 00:50.38 | *** join/#debian kingkongmok (~kingkongm@121.8.124.244) |
| 00:52.14 | *** join/#debian bagackiz (bagackiz@Why.Is.A.Raven.Like.A.Writing.Desk.PanicBNC.org) |
| 00:52.57 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (~demon@unaffiliated/ra3or) |
| 00:55.12 | *** join/#debian velleity (~velleity@va-184-5-243-183.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) |
| 00:55.31 | *** join/#debian adb (~androirc@134-186.192-178.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 00:56.55 | *** join/#debian HeavyMetal (~HeavyMeta@unaffiliated/heavymetal) |
| 00:56.57 | *** join/#debian bagackiz (bagackiz@Why.Is.A.Raven.Like.A.Writing.Desk.PanicBNC.org) |
| 00:57.57 | *** join/#debian phuh (~phuh@cp66-203-194-42.cp.telus.net) |
| 00:58.12 | *** join/#debian Ryushin (~Ryushin@gateway/tor-sasl/ryushin) |
| 00:58.14 | *** join/#debian Miesco (~mugsy@dyn-192-249-128-164.nexicom.net) |
| 00:58.43 | *** join/#debian tsun (~tsun@24-205-58-104.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com) |
| 00:59.17 | *** join/#debian lrussell (42e39688@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.227.150.136) |
| 01:00.18 | *** join/#debian fstd (~fstd@unaffiliated/fisted) |
| 01:00.42 | *** join/#debian meti (~meti@unaffiliated/meti) |
| 01:01.05 | *** join/#debian TildaTurn (~tilda@unaffiliated/tildaturn) |
| 01:03.23 | *** join/#debian HauM1 (~HauM1@login.univie.ac.at) |
| 01:03.55 | *** join/#debian tokik (~tokik@122x212x176x138.ap122.ftth.ucom.ne.jp) |
| 01:04.33 | *** join/#debian corey84- (~Corey84@unaffiliated/corey84) |
| 01:04.40 | *** join/#debian shibboleth (~user@gateway/tor-sasl/shibboleth) |
| 01:05.27 | marioxcc | hello |
| 01:05.48 | marioxcc | In GRUB legacy for grub-reboot and grub-set-default. Does the numbering begins at 1 or 0? |
| 01:07.42 | *** join/#debian Kulrak (kulrak@C-59-101-14-136.hay.connect.net.au) |
| 01:07.42 | *** join/#debian Kulrak (kulrak@tlug/member/kulrak) |
| 01:09.00 | *** join/#debian shiru (~shiru@p10024-ipngn100110osakachuo.osaka.ocn.ne.jp) |
| 01:10.11 | *** join/#debian adh0c (~adh0c@nthrow.info) |
| 01:11.11 | *** join/#debian pauel1 (~paul@f050160165.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 01:11.44 | *** join/#debian b1101 (~b@216.155.131.72) |
| 01:11.44 | *** join/#debian b1101 (~b@fsf/member/b1101) |
| 01:13.16 | *** join/#debian Pikudoz (~opera@190.222.96.35) |
| 01:14.01 | *** join/#debian justanotheruser (~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser) |
| 01:14.09 | *** join/#debian Chris7mas (~Embryo@188.25.58.243) |
| 01:14.16 | *** join/#debian exhibitor (~j7@88.214.180.198) |
| 01:14.16 | *** join/#debian exhibitor (~j7@unaffiliated/jose1974) |
| 01:14.45 | marioxcc | for GRUB legacy, is it neccesary to run install-grub to make menu.lst take effects? |
| 01:16.00 | *** join/#debian yakamo (~yakamo@112.249.90.146.dyn.plus.net) |
| 01:16.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1552] by debhelper |
| 01:16.17 | yakamo | where can i find the package "import" in debian its not showing |
| 01:17.00 | yakamo | never mind |
| 01:17.07 | *** join/#debian Stummi (~Stummi@rockbox/developer/Stummi) |
| 01:19.09 | *** join/#debian tay_ (~tay@82.118.242.11) |
| 01:19.50 | *** join/#debian hmstrmn (~hmstrmn@grm-studby-128-39-149-158.studby.uia.no) |
| 01:19.55 | lrussell | Is now a good time to move from Wheezy to Jessie or would it be sensible to wait? |
| 01:20.05 | *** join/#debian SoCloseToToast (~SoCloseTo@95.91.219.162) |
| 01:23.29 | *** join/#debian illy (~rian@chatis.sekjur.biz) |
| 01:23.39 | *** join/#debian tedbundyjr (~tedbundyj@210.195.180.108) |
| 01:23.41 | *** join/#debian AL_Kernell (wernerml@189.27.151.166.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) |
| 01:24.15 | *** join/#debian dvs (~colin@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 01:25.29 | *** join/#debian rgr|android (~Android@d231244.adsl.hansenet.de) |
| 01:26.09 | *** join/#debian themill (~stuart@unaffiliated/themill) |
| 01:26.19 | *** join/#debian bariumbitmap (~nbeaver@162-202-48-157.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) |
| 01:28.36 | *** join/#debian __raven (~raven@dslb-094-216-195-154.094.216.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 01:28.57 | *** join/#debian bariumbitmap (~nbeaver@162-202-48-157.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) |
| 01:29.36 | *** join/#debian test__ (~j7@88.214.183.70) |
| 01:30.58 | *** join/#debian Xjs|moonshine (moon@chrysostomos.aoide.de) |
| 01:31.47 | *** join/#debian musca (musca@tyrael.eu) |
| 01:32.10 | *** join/#debian n2deep (n2deep@odin.sdf-eu.org) |
| 01:33.04 | *** join/#debian r3doz (~r3doZZ@unaffiliated/r3do) |
| 01:33.50 | *** join/#debian infinitum (~infinitum@df-001f-1a30-0005.10ge.i6.sungai.nl) |
| 01:34.24 | *** join/#debian sand3r (~user@unaffiliated/sand3r) |
| 01:34.43 | *** join/#debian GunsNRose (~arch@110.184.145.36) |
| 01:36.55 | *** join/#debian Betal (~Beta@unaffiliated/betal) |
| 01:37.40 | rwp | ll /etc/cron.daily/ |
| 01:37.56 | rwp | oops |
| 01:38.48 | cafuego | Password: |
| 01:39.06 | *** join/#debian dontknow (~dontknow@unaffiliated/dontknow) |
| 01:39.57 | dontknow | could someone tell me the default debian kernel values? is it 100hz? or 300hz? tickless or whatever? |
| 01:42.06 | cafuego | grep HZ /boot/config-$(uname -r) |
| 01:42.25 | *** join/#debian kingkong1ok (~kingkongm@121.8.124.244) |
| 01:43.10 | dontknow | cafuego, could you post it to me? |
| 01:43.22 | cafuego | Run that command on your debian machine |
| 01:43.37 | cafuego | Mine says 250 |
| 01:43.56 | cafuego | But I might be running a different kernel. |
| 01:44.04 | dontknow | cafuego, i don't have debian right now. hmm ok is it stable, backport or sid? |
| 01:44.38 | cafuego | That's 3.2.0-4-amd64 on Wheezy |
| 01:44.48 | dontknow | cafuego, ok thanks! |
| 01:44.59 | cafuego | Older kernel running Xen |
| 01:45.00 | *** join/#debian Uninstall (~quassel@kde/developer/bettio) |
| 01:45.35 | NChief | I have an socket that did not close.. it is in FIN_WAIT1 state.. how do I remove it? it is tcp6 (ipv6) |
| 01:46.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1544] by debhelper |
| 01:46.13 | *** join/#debian cbsw (~Thunderbi@202.38.9.93) |
| 01:46.29 | *** join/#debian cuqa_ (sbnc@unaffiliated/cuqa) |
| 01:48.08 | karlpinc | dontknow: I looked at one the other day and it was 1000. It was wheezy, but who knows if the kernel had been frobbed. It was running under zen so... |
| 01:48.16 | *** join/#debian GLiX (~GLix___@2a00:1a28:1165::1013) |
| 01:48.54 | *** join/#debian xingu (~xingu@cl-1734.lon-02.gb.sixxs.net) |
| 01:49.15 | dontknow | karlpinc, you are running unofficial kernel then |
| 01:49.21 | *** join/#debian rryoumaa (~user@ip68-226-110-213.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 01:50.21 | *** join/#debian oish (~charlie@159.22.169.217.in-addr.arpa) |
| 01:50.44 | *** join/#debian Arkadietz (~kiril@freebsd/lover/kiril) |
| 01:51.05 | *** join/#debian ariscop (~Phase4@2001:44b8:4196:e800:82fa:5bff:fe03:d75c) |
| 01:51.47 | *** join/#debian fengshaun (~fengshaun@unaffiliated/fengshaun) |
| 01:52.02 | fengshaun | who has voting rights in the GR coming up? |
| 01:52.06 | *** join/#debian tnguyen (~Thunderbi@73.172.137.24) |
| 01:52.23 | Pixionus | So I have a curious occurrence... |
| 01:52.24 | karlpinc | NChief: You wait for it to timeout. It's how tcp works. |
| 01:52.44 | Pixionus | all my passwords except root are stored with shadow... root is just hashed in psswd |
| 01:53.01 | dontknow | i want to download actual kernel source so that i can take a look at its .config file. but in there https://packages.debian.org/source/stable-backports/linux-latest it is only metapackage and i don't see kernel .config file which has the default kernel values. so what package source should i download to get the .config file? |
| 01:53.23 | karlpinc | Pixionus: Perhaps root got it's password before shadow was enabled? One wonders what would happen if you changed the root password. |
| 01:53.42 | Pixionus | when I change it, it still sets it in passwd |
| 01:53.56 | NChief | karlpinc: I have waited for 5 hours |
| 01:54.03 | karlpinc | dontknow: There's a facotid with dpkg regards building your own kernel.... I forget. |
| 01:54.14 | Pixionus | I tried to find the conversion tools that are normally here, but it's not on this distro (it's a stripped debian distro used on embedded boards) |
| 01:54.17 | karlpinc | NChief: Well, that does not sound right. |
| 01:54.21 | marioxcc | is it neccesary to do something after adding an entry in menu.lst in GRUB legacy? |
| 01:54.25 | *** join/#debian g00gz (~Adium@2601:6:62c0:8b:251f:6000:5f57:c700) |
| 01:54.32 | fengshaun | when is the GR vote happening? |
| 01:54.34 | karlpinc | NChief: But I don't know my ipv6 well enough. |
| 01:54.43 | *** join/#debian ifeelsick2 (~james@171.5.43.190) |
| 01:54.45 | NChief | ok |
| 01:54.47 | Pixionus | If I add a new user, it is set in shadow... |
| 01:55.15 | NChief | it usualy times out.. but this time it never did |
| 01:55.21 | dontknow | ok fotget it. i found the source file |
| 01:55.38 | *** join/#debian garyle (~garyle@2602:306:ccd3:2710:353f:9356:d269:5632) |
| 01:55.43 | *** join/#debian konrath (~konrath@177.32.73.87) |
| 01:55.54 | fengshaun | does anyone know when the GR vote on init systems is happening? |
| 01:56.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1554] by debhelper |
| 01:56.02 | karlpinc | NChief: You could break down and read the ipv6 rfc.... (but sorta sounds like something's broken) |
| 01:57.29 | karlpinc | Pixionus: Don't see why you couldn't manually move it to shadow, being sure to keep a couple of vt-s logged in as root first, and backups. But that's treating the symptom. I suppose it depends on your goals. |
| 01:58.27 | Pixionus | We are deploying the image to a bunch of remote servers that will live on client sites. I think I need to treat the problem |
| 01:58.29 | *** join/#debian kpease (~kpease@pool-71-184-94-4.bstnma.fios.verizon.net) |
| 01:58.32 | *** join/#debian infinitum (~infinitum@df-001f-1a30-0005.10ge.i6.sungai.nl) |
| 01:59.37 | karlpinc | Pixionus: If it fixes it it fixes it. But to really treat the problem you need to know how it happened. And the first step there is always being able to reproduce the problem. Sounds like work. |
| 01:59.53 | *** join/#debian JonJ (~jon@host-37-191-209-128.lynet.no) |
| 02:00.05 | Pixionus | lol |
| 02:00.11 | karlpinc | Pixionus: Or, you could wait for somebody clever to show up here and know the answer. :-) I don't suppose google knows? :-) |
| 02:00.27 | Pixionus | nah. been googling for a while now and so is one of my coworkers |
| 02:01.05 | Pixionus | the root password will be set with salt for each server at a later time, so we need to be sure they will be set with shadow. |
| 02:01.25 | *** join/#debian garyle (~garyle@108.205.50.113) |
| 02:01.44 | karlpinc | Pixionus: If your considering using a tool to migrate then nothing wrong with manually migrating it yourself. It should wind up in shadow, permanently, either way. (Or else the migration tool would be broken.) |
| 02:01.53 | *** join/#debian knightshade (~knightsha@p548CF853.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 02:02.42 | Pixionus | it's not a migration tool. Salt is a server management tool. |
| 02:03.05 | karlpinc | Pixionus: I know what salt is. I'm talking about moving the data from /etc/passwd to /etc/shadow. |
| 02:03.07 | Pixionus | unfortunately, if it sets the password using the installed tools, it will set it without shadow. |
| 02:03.16 | g00gz | hello community... |
| 02:03.40 | Pixionus | oh. no we want to set whole new passwords on each server. Unless your talking about setting them manually using salt. |
| 02:03.42 | g00gz | sorry for the noob question, besides installing debian and a few packages |
| 02:03.52 | karlpinc | Pixionus: If you move it to shadow, why wouldn't it stay moved? If you change the password on a regular account does it stay in shadow? |
| 02:04.11 | g00gz | what are some other things i can do to learn debian |
| 02:04.12 | *** join/#debian PcJamesy (~James@unaffiliated/pcjamesy) |
| 02:04.13 | Pixionus | yes. Ok. worth a shot. |
| 02:04.23 | g00gz | any good sites that offer tutorials |
| 02:04.24 | *** join/#debian PitchF (bc50c445@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.188.80.196.69) |
| 02:04.30 | karlpinc | Pixionus: Try changing a user password first, just to make sure there's no other problem there. |
| 02:04.39 | g00gz | step-by-step guidesâ¦almost like a lab project ? |
| 02:04.42 | Pixionus | did that. It stayed in shadow. |
| 02:04.51 | PitchF | to fork or not to fork. that is the question |
| 02:04.59 | *** join/#debian rryoumaa (~user@ip68-226-110-213.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 02:05.04 | karlpinc | g00gz: There's the reference manual. It has stuff like that. |
| 02:05.11 | Pixionus | g00gz: you could jump in the deep end and do a linux from scratch build :) |
| 02:05.19 | karlpinc | Pixionus: Then you'd think that root would too. |
| 02:05.56 | Pixionus | karlpinc: you would think.. |
| 02:05.58 | g00gz | linux from scratch ? |
| 02:06.03 | Pixionus | g00gz: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/ |
| 02:06.09 | karlpinc | !tell g00gz about reference |
| 02:06.10 | g00gz | i'm assuming that's not the same as downloading an .iso file and installing |
| 02:06.12 | PitchF | yes scratch you itch |
| 02:06.17 | Pixionus | g00gz: it's the ultimate linux lab project. |
| 02:06.44 | *** join/#debian Guest834 (~totte@tott.es) |
| 02:06.58 | karlpinc | g00gz: You'll learn plenty just installing and configuring your system like you like it. |
| 02:07.04 | Pixionus | g00gz: and it will teach you the down and dirty of what Linux is made of |
| 02:07.04 | g00gz | thanks karlpinc! |
| 02:07.05 | PitchF | does linux from scratch depends on systemd? |
| 02:07.25 | Pixionus | I think that's up to you PitchF |
| 02:08.01 | PitchF | systemd is spyware IMO |
| 02:08.19 | Pixionus | but yeah g00gz you should configure your install how you like it, then dive into things like the /etc/interface and such networking stuff. |
| 02:08.44 | g00gz | right, i have a networking background so I would like to learn more sysadmin |
| 02:08.46 | Pixionus | g00gz: from there, I would just keep reading and seriously look into LFS. |
| 02:08.54 | g00gz | installing packages, server side stuff |
| 02:09.06 | PitchF | LFS nice game |
| 02:09.11 | g00gz | creating images, backing up systems.. |
| 02:09.13 | PitchF | best racing game ever |
| 02:09.41 | g00gz | i will work off the reference guid karlpinc mentioned |
| 02:09.47 | g00gz | thanks again for the help |
| 02:09.49 | PitchF | thats what google is telling me |
| 02:10.02 | Pixionus | PitchF: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/ |
| 02:10.10 | PitchF | https://www.lfs.net/ |
| 02:10.30 | Pixionus | off topic. |
| 02:10.31 | PitchF | it runs great on my 15 year old computer |
| 02:10.43 | PitchF | great grafics |
| 02:10.54 | Pixionus | take it to #debian-offtopic |
| 02:11.10 | PitchF | i think its a fork of torks |
| 02:11.36 | marioxcc | hello, I'm trying to partition /dev/xvda1 |
| 02:11.43 | marioxcc | but I get this message: http://paste.debian.net/129172/ |
| 02:11.57 | marioxcc | what's the problem? What should I do? |
| 02:12.01 | g00gz | Pixionus thanks for the LFS link |
| 02:12.29 | PitchF | are you going to do it? |
| 02:12.32 | PitchF | lol |
| 02:12.54 | Pixionus | not a problem. It's probably beyond what you want right now, but keep it in mind. I'm starting it myself and it is the best way to become very versed in 'nix. |
| 02:13.05 | Pixionus | Especially if you want to be a sysadmin worth your salt |
| 02:14.48 | marioxcc | What should I do to partition a /dev/xvda1 during installation of debian? |
| 02:15.06 | marioxcc | It seems to be recognized line a single partition, but I want to set up a partition table there. |
| 02:15.07 | *** join/#debian [BNC]pacbard (pacbard@gateway/shell/bnc4free/x-pijbdlvgscrhzfoq) |
| 02:15.12 | karlpinc | Pixionus: The way to cheat is to make, say, a toor account with a uid of 1 and set it's password. Then frob /etc/passwd and /etc/shadow, removing root, renameing toor to root and, if you like moving the toor line to the top. |
| 02:15.57 | PitchF | i use a distro that runs as root |
| 02:16.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1545] by debhelper |
| 02:16.19 | karlpinc | marioxcc: You can always put another partition table inside the partition. It does get wonky and suprising though for the next guy who comes around. |
| 02:16.20 | PitchF | no pesky root prompts everytime you need to get work done |
| 02:16.20 | Pixionus | All distros run as root if you choose to. |
| 02:16.24 | *** join/#debian shinnya (~shinnya@2.173.210.220.dy.bbexcite.jp) |
| 02:16.32 | *** part/#debian fengshaun (~fengshaun@unaffiliated/fengshaun) |
| 02:16.42 | karlpinc | (Yup, sounds OT to me too.) |
| 02:16.42 | marioxcc | karlpinc: I'm getting this message and the partition don't gets recognized: http://paste.debian.net/129172/ |
| 02:16.59 | marioxcc | karlpinc: do you know what should I do? |
| 02:17.05 | *** join/#debian netsnail (~netsnail@223.71.241.46) |
| 02:17.18 | *** join/#debian aau (~S@37.209.227.84) |
| 02:17.20 | PitchF | format it GPT |
| 02:17.20 | marioxcc | I'm installing remotely and have already cleared the partiton table, there's no bootable system currently. |
| 02:17.32 | marioxcc | PitchF: How can I do that? |
| 02:17.49 | karlpinc | marioxcc: Your paste does not help. it does not say what you did to get the message. |
| 02:18.16 | *** join/#debian Simotek-Work- (~Simotek@opensuse/member/simotek) |
| 02:18.37 | marioxcc | karlpinc: I made fdisk /dev/xvda1, then made a DOS partiton table with one primary partition with type "Linux LVM" |
| 02:18.48 | karlpinc | marioxcc: I'm talking about something like "fdisk /dev/xvda1" to put a partition table inside the xvda1 partition. |
| 02:19.52 | karlpinc | marioxcc: I can't say. xvda1 is a partition in a vm. (xen?) That makes it sorta wonky. |
| 02:19.56 | PitchF | are you using fdisk cfdisk lfdisk or gfdisk? |
| 02:20.15 | PitchF | or something else |
| 02:20.25 | PitchF | Roflol |
| 02:20.34 | marioxcc | karlpinc: well, I have no /dev/xvda. I don't know, I only have experience with KVM where we have a /dev/vd[abc...] |
| 02:20.45 | marioxcc | So I suppose that it is a disk |
| 02:20.45 | *** join/#debian Ricardo__ (~rick@unaffiliated/ricardo--/x-7903455) |
| 02:20.52 | karlpinc | marioxcc: When I had your situation I just used a single partition. Then made big contiguous files and put filesystems (or whatever) in those for my "other partitions". |
| 02:20.52 | marioxcc | but the system was installed here directly. |
| 02:21.17 | *** join/#debian midacts (uid34732@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rvwjnwpiveefkyap) |
| 02:21.38 | *** join/#debian Duststorm (~Duststorm@ip-83-101-75-40.customer.schedom-europe.net) |
| 02:21.51 | *** join/#debian diniwed (~gavron@pool-74-108-225-30.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) |
| 02:21.54 | *** join/#debian movrax (~movrax@89-66-190-100.dynamic.chello.pl) |
| 02:21.54 | *** join/#debian movrax (~movrax@unaffiliated/movrax) |
| 02:22.10 | *** join/#debian rryoumaa (~user@ip68-226-110-213.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 02:22.19 | *** join/#debian dayangkun (~dayangkun@101.78.195.61) |
| 02:22.37 | karlpinc | marioxcc: Basically, they gave me a vm and a single partition and rather than try to do odd things and then have to deal with the oddity should the underlying single partition be extended or otherwise messed with, I decided to leave well enough alone. |
| 02:22.40 | PitchF | HDD use to be /dev/hd0 |
| 02:22.51 | *** join/#debian rryoumaa (~user@ip68-226-110-213.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 02:23.01 | *** join/#debian linuxuz3r_ (~linuxuz3r@2602:306:bd2a:a160:c552:eea2:5860:4778) |
| 02:23.05 | PitchF | but who knows anymore what they call them |
| 02:23.08 | *** join/#debian djbkd (~djbkd@4.35.166.4) |
| 02:23.14 | *** join/#debian infinitum (~infinitum@df-001f-1a30-0005.10ge.i6.sungai.nl) |
| 02:23.15 | marioxcc | karlpinc: ok, is there a way that I can install LVM in a partition like this? |
| 02:23.23 | *** join/#debian sheap (60e51223@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.229.18.35) |
| 02:23.25 | *** join/#debian takeyourhatoff (~tyho@31.205.108.24) |
| 02:23.38 | sheap | what are the available default desktop environments? |
| 02:23.39 | Eduard_Munteanu | marioxcc, you can make it a PV |
| 02:24.20 | dvs | sheap: Which one do you want? |
| 02:24.21 | *** join/#debian wols_ (~klingens@p5B21CBA8.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 02:24.22 | PitchF | you cant have more that one default de |
| 02:24.23 | Eduard_Munteanu | Or make a loopback device based on it and partition. |
| 02:24.24 | karlpinc | marioxcc: You make a big contiguous file, either with dd or the ext4 tool (I forget) and make the file a pv. (If you can't, like Eduard_Munteanu says, make the partition a pv straight away.) |
| 02:24.29 | marioxcc | Eduard_Munteanu: the installer originally wouldn't let me delete the partition, but in a shell I DD'd the partition table and re-read the disk again |
| 02:24.53 | marioxcc | ok, I think that that problem is solved, thanks karlpinc, Eduard_Munteanu |
| 02:25.00 | marioxcc | now, what does the bootable flag do? |
| 02:25.13 | *** join/#debian notis (~notis@178.128.15.79.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 02:25.14 | sheap | dvs: not sure, gnome/kde is too heavy and xfce (I heard) doesn't play well with systemd, so maybe something else (that's available on the install CD, since I have no network) |
| 02:25.24 | Eduard_Munteanu | marioxcc, it tells MBR which VBR to chainload |
| 02:25.38 | Eduard_Munteanu | Which is irrelevant for e.g. GRUB in the MBR |
| 02:25.45 | *** join/#debian codygman- (~cody@pool-173-71-16-72.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) |
| 02:25.49 | *** join/#debian codygman (~cody@pool-173-71-16-72.dllstx.fios.verizon.net) |
| 02:25.50 | *** join/#debian snuffeluffegus (~snuff@5.150.254.180) |
| 02:25.54 | *** join/#debian Nnel (~Nnel@host86-189-1-123.range86-189.btcentralplus.com) |
| 02:25.54 | dvs | sheap: lxde? |
| 02:25.56 | marioxcc | Eduard_Munteanu: so, can I leave it off and still have a bootable system? |
| 02:26.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1552] by debhelper |
| 02:26.12 | *** join/#debian shibboleth (~user@gateway/tor-sasl/shibboleth) |
| 02:26.25 | Eduard_Munteanu | marioxcc, to clarify, if /dev/loop0 points to /dev/xvda1, then you can have /dev/loop0p* as partitions |
| 02:26.27 | *** join/#debian WormFood (~wormfood@183.14.18.193) |
| 02:26.36 | Eduard_Munteanu | marioxcc, yes |
| 02:26.51 | Eduard_Munteanu | I usually set it on for the boot partition. |
| 02:27.01 | marioxcc | Eduard_Munteanu: I'm getting this error: |
| 02:27.26 | *** join/#debian imunsie (~imunsie@ibmaus65.lnk.telstra.net) |
| 02:27.36 | marioxcc | http://paste.debian.net/129177/ |
| 02:27.39 | *** join/#debian fdr_ (~fdr@186.220.172.230) |
| 02:27.42 | *** join/#debian TildaTurn (~tilda@unaffiliated/tildaturn) |
| 02:28.11 | PitchF | a friend of mine tells me all distros are essentially redhat based |
| 02:28.24 | karlpinc | Eduard_Munteanu: He's going to have trouble with loop if he's only got 1 disk and that's the one he's looping. |
| 02:28.33 | karlpinc | PitchF: #debian-offtopic |
| 02:28.44 | PitchF | theres no one there |
| 02:29.10 | Eduard_Munteanu | marioxcc, it's probably in use, so it would require a reboot |
| 02:29.18 | karlpinc | PitchF: Yeah, but if you persist in being offtopic here sooner or later an op will kick you off. |
| 02:29.27 | Eduard_Munteanu | And yeah, that sort of loopback setup might require custom initramfs logic |
| 02:29.58 | marioxcc | Eduard_Munteanu: so, wouldn't I have a bootable system outright? |
| 02:30.37 | Eduard_Munteanu | marioxcc, right, it could be a problem |
| 02:31.22 | marioxcc | Eduard_Munteanu: what do you suggest to do? |
| 02:31.31 | Eduard_Munteanu | marioxcc, why don't you configure the hypervisor to give you a full disk instead of using xvda1? |
| 02:31.36 | marioxcc | I have booted a custom net installer with network-console |
| 02:31.59 | marioxcc | Eduard_Munteanu: no, it's a VPS, I don't have control over that and it seems like they don't, because they have used proprietary software for managing Xen |
| 02:32.25 | *** join/#debian linuxuz3r__ (~linuxuz3r@2602:306:bd2a:a160:c552:eea2:5860:4778) |
| 02:32.28 | Eduard_Munteanu | marioxcc, what is on xvda itself, not the first partition? |
| 02:32.40 | marioxcc | Eduard_Munteanu: nothing, there's no such thing |
| 02:32.43 | *** join/#debian huza (~My@123.128.193.165) |
| 02:32.44 | *** join/#debian pet2001 (~peter@p54838D03.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 02:32.45 | marioxcc | there is no /dev/xvda |
| 02:32.47 | Eduard_Munteanu | Hm. |
| 02:33.03 | *** join/#debian Wulf (~Wulf@unaffiliated/wulf) |
| 02:33.38 | Eduard_Munteanu | That's odd, I expect they'd have problems with any distro. |
| 02:34.05 | marioxcc | Eduard_Munteanu: they use a shit called âonappâ which sets up images ready for use |
| 02:34.10 | Eduard_Munteanu | marioxcc, I'd try LVM on xvda1 then |
| 02:34.12 | marioxcc | but with GRUB legacy, go figure |
| 02:34.28 | marioxcc | Eduard_Munteanu: how can I use the parittion? debian-installer wants me to format it |
| 02:34.45 | Eduard_Munteanu | marioxcc, format it as a LVM physical volume |
| 02:34.51 | marioxcc | âYou have selected an entire device to partition. If you proceed with ...â |
| 02:34.53 | marioxcc | Eduard_Munteanu: right, thanks |
| 02:35.00 | marioxcc | supposedly it's a whole disk, at least for the guest |
| 02:35.05 | Eduard_Munteanu | Oh. |
| 02:35.17 | marioxcc | remember, we don't have /dev/xvda |
| 02:35.22 | marioxcc | only /dev/xvda[12] |
| 02:35.24 | *** join/#debian calisto (~Icedove@unaffiliated/calisto) |
| 02:35.27 | Eduard_Munteanu | marioxcc, in that case you can partition it, but you have to reboot if the installer complains it can't reload |
| 02:35.52 | Eduard_Munteanu | marioxcc, or you can use fdisk to do it manually, reboot then install |
| 02:36.03 | marioxcc | Eduard_Munteanu: I did both, with debian-installer and fdisk, but none works |
| 02:36.10 | marioxcc | apparently the kernel doens't like nexted paritions |
| 02:36.33 | marioxcc | Eduard_Munteanu: this was the error: http://paste.debian.net/129172/ |
| 02:36.37 | Eduard_Munteanu | marioxcc, do you get xvda1p*? |
| 02:36.46 | marioxcc | Eduard_Munteanu: no |
| 02:37.10 | Eduard_Munteanu | Then it can't be partitioned, use LVM. |
| 02:37.21 | marioxcc | ok |
| 02:37.37 | marioxcc | thanks you very much Eduard_Munteanu |
| 02:37.50 | Eduard_Munteanu | Sure, alright. |
| 02:38.11 | *** join/#debian EntropyArchive (~Thunderbi@198.86.76.199) |
| 02:39.09 | *** join/#debian phuh_ (~phuh@cp66-203-194-42.cp.telus.net) |
| 02:39.46 | *** join/#debian phuh (~phuh@cp66-203-194-42.cp.telus.net) |
| 02:41.14 | *** join/#debian Kulrak (kulrak@C-59-101-38-134.hay.connect.net.au) |
| 02:41.14 | *** join/#debian Kulrak (kulrak@tlug/member/kulrak) |
| 02:46.18 | marioxcc | Eduard_Munteanu: what's the directory where I should mount the target root before the installer calls debootstrap? |
| 02:46.22 | marioxcc | I think that it was /target |
| 02:46.36 | *** join/#debian mesamoo (~dh64@174-21-237-81.tukw.qwest.net) |
| 02:49.33 | *** join/#debian Streusel_ (~Anonymous@unaffiliated/streusel) |
| 02:50.25 | *** join/#debian calisto1 (~Icedove@unaffiliated/calisto) |
| 02:51.32 | *** join/#debian geomyidae_ (uid214@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lubgxjxtxjlhsivs) |
| 02:52.28 | *** join/#debian tnguyen1 (~Thunderbi@73.172.137.24) |
| 02:52.56 | *** join/#debian ArchDuke (~ArchDuke@72.28.30.52) |
| 02:53.52 | *** join/#debian marvilekke (~xbox@s53751a9d.adsl.online.nl) |
| 02:54.53 | Pixionus | btw karlpinc thought I should mention I just took the easy way out and copied my hash from passwd to shadow and put an x in it's place so everything kinda looked like it should and everything seems to be working as it should now. |
| 02:54.55 | *** join/#debian sheap (60e51223@gateway/web/freenode/ip.96.229.18.35) |
| 02:56.11 | sheap | so I just reinstalled with "desktop=xfce" at the installer prompt, but it seems that it was never installed...I guess my question is, what's the correct way to tell the installer to use xfce? on the wiki it also says that under advanced options there should be a desktop entry, but no thing was found |
| 02:58.42 | *** join/#debian djbkd (~djbkd@4.35.166.4) |
| 03:00.22 | *** join/#debian L0rdNik0n (~L0rdNik0n@h107.7.189.173.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) |
| 03:01.53 | dvs | sheap: Why do you have to install it during initial installation? |
| 03:01.55 | *** join/#debian meinaeiner2 (~meinaeine@193.159.171.203) |
| 03:02.19 | sheap | dvs: proprietary wifi cards means no internet for me |
| 03:02.43 | dvs | So you downloaded the DVD? |
| 03:02.51 | sheap | CD |
| 03:02.57 | dvs | ouch |
| 03:03.10 | dvs | It's probably not on the first CD |
| 03:03.21 | sheap | ahhh |
| 03:03.27 | *** join/#debian hellangel7 (~hellangel@117.192.185.56) |
| 03:03.41 | nkuttler | aren't there differet cd sets for different DEs? |
| 03:03.49 | nkuttler | different even |
| 03:03.55 | *** join/#debian Solo456 (~Solo456@ip70-174-30-147.hr.hr.cox.net) |
| 03:03.58 | dvs | for installation, yes. |
| 03:04.07 | *** join/#debian wlodpolm (~nope@pool-71-161-252-158.sctnpa.east.verizon.net) |
| 03:04.16 | dvs | but you can install another DE after the inital install |
| 03:04.19 | wlodpolm | math |
| 03:05.42 | sheap | oh duh |
| 03:05.47 | sheap | I totally blanked on that |
| 03:05.52 | sheap | xfce-iso!! yesss |
| 03:06.39 | *** join/#debian kermit (unknown@pdpc/supporter/bronze/kermit) |
| 03:06.54 | *** join/#debian rgb-one (~richard@72.27.17.205) |
| 03:11.16 | *** join/#debian tnguyen (~Thunderbi@73.172.137.24) |
| 03:12.50 | *** join/#debian ruukasu (~ruukasu@unaffiliated/ruukasu) |
| 03:14.53 | *** join/#debian IIT (~IIT@unaffiliated/xtriz) |
| 03:16.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1544] by debhelper |
| 03:18.11 | *** join/#debian Vutral (~ss@31.7.56.131) |
| 03:18.15 | *** join/#debian Vutral (~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral) |
| 03:18.25 | *** join/#debian SirLagz (~SirLagz@ppp121-45-251-34.lns20.per2.internode.on.net) |
| 03:19.38 | *** join/#debian teran (~teran@broadband-109-173-61-206.nationalcablenetworks.ru) |
| 03:19.50 | *** join/#debian pythonsnake (~pythonsna@fedora/pythonsnake) |
| 03:20.25 | *** join/#debian Tarogg (~Tarogg@das-exil.de) |
| 03:22.30 | *** join/#debian tempus_fol (~tempus@gateway/tor-sasl/foltempus) |
| 03:22.31 | justanotheruser | I want to run new programs. should my chroot be jessie? |
| 03:22.34 | *** join/#debian patterson (~patterson@c-50-174-179-173.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 03:22.42 | justanotheruser | or something else |
| 03:24.04 | *** join/#debian linuxuz3r__ (~linuxuz3r@2602:306:bd2a:a160:c552:eea2:5860:4778) |
| 03:24.13 | *** join/#debian bicranial (~bicranial@mail.roarfilm.com.au) |
| 03:24.46 | *** join/#debian tnguyen (~Thunderbi@73.172.137.24) |
| 03:28.13 | *** join/#debian Hunterkll (~Hunterkll@50.242.254.37) |
| 03:28.21 | *** join/#debian infinitum (~infinitum@df-001f-1a30-0005.10ge.i6.sungai.nl) |
| 03:29.02 | *** join/#debian user (~user@185-23-225-18.lsn.wtnet.de) |
| 03:29.41 | *** join/#debian b1101 (~b@fsf/member/b1101) |
| 03:30.04 | *** join/#debian Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@unaffiliated/butt3rfly) |
| 03:30.10 | *** join/#debian wakd (~wakd@124-169-135-143.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 03:30.13 | *** join/#debian Posterdati (~Posterdat@host177-229-dynamic.7-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 03:30.16 | *** join/#debian magnet (~magnet@silmaril.mithrandir.net) |
| 03:32.05 | *** join/#debian niko (~niko@freenode/staff/ubuntu.member.niko) |
| 03:32.38 | *** join/#debian Gurty (~princess@unaffiliated/gurty) |
| 03:33.03 | *** join/#debian enaqx (~enaqx@user-206.98.infomir.com.ua) |
| 03:33.44 | *** join/#debian rgr|and80 (~Android@e177120114.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 03:34.15 | *** join/#debian knightshade2 (~knightsha@p548CF79E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 03:35.31 | *** join/#debian linuxuz3r__ (~linuxuz3r@2602:306:bd2a:a160:c552:eea2:5860:4778) |
| 03:41.40 | *** join/#debian trix`G (~user@174.127.120.62) |
| 03:44.32 | *** join/#debian tnguyen (~Thunderbi@73.172.137.24) |
| 03:44.42 | *** join/#debian mburns (~mburns@rialto.mirwin.net) |
| 03:45.04 | *** join/#debian koderok (~koderok@223.227.100.216) |
| 03:46.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1536] by debhelper |
| 03:46.43 | *** join/#debian garyle (~garyle@2601:9:5900:e25:79d5:9494:914c:e0f4) |
| 03:47.50 | *** join/#debian Rusty1 (~Rusty1@cpe-74-70-74-115.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 03:47.55 | *** join/#debian sdfvsfgvsdf (~bauasdgwg@37.254.220.65) |
| 03:49.52 | *** join/#debian JonJ (~jon@host-37-191-209-128.lynet.no) |
| 03:51.23 | *** join/#debian BotaniCar (~BotaniCar@78-1-172-156.adsl.net.t-com.hr) |
| 03:51.35 | *** join/#debian linuxuz3r__ (~linuxuz3r@2602:306:bd2a:a160:c552:eea2:5860:4778) |
| 03:52.08 | *** join/#debian disabled_ (~bauasdgwg@37.254.225.151) |
| 03:53.04 | *** join/#debian infinitum (~infinitum@df-001f-1a30-0005.10ge.i6.sungai.nl) |
| 03:53.08 | *** join/#debian disabled_ (~bauasdgwg@37.254.225.151) |
| 03:57.15 | *** join/#debian rotad (rotad@unaffiliated/rotad) |
| 03:57.52 | *** join/#debian tnguyen (~Thunderbi@73.172.137.24) |
| 03:59.56 | *** join/#debian Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@p50896876.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 04:00.12 | *** join/#debian Scramblejams (~Scramblej@ip174-65-75-5.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 04:01.00 | Scramblejams | Hi all, I'm on Jessie. All of a sudden, the first half of my maclayer address changes every time I go to get an IP via DHCP. Anybody know why? Thinkpad T400. |
| 04:01.41 | Cpuroast | the mac address does not change |
| 04:01.45 | Cpuroast | unless you spoof it |
| 04:01.54 | Cpuroast | it's hard coded |
| 04:01.59 | *** join/#debian philipballew (~philip@ubuntu/member/philipballew) |
| 04:02.18 | *** join/#debian phuh (~phuh@cp66-203-194-42.cp.telus.net) |
| 04:02.41 | Scramblejams | Cpuroast: Yeah, I know. This is completely bizarre. |
| 04:07.56 | *** join/#debian L0rdNik0n (~L0rdNik0n@h107.7.189.173.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) |
| 04:08.59 | *** join/#debian digastricus (~garth@dslb-178-010-128-002.178.010.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 04:09.33 | Scramblejams | Maybe it's related to this, I don't see a warning about an invalid MAC address in my logs, though https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udev/+bug/153727 |
| 04:10.12 | *** join/#debian treah (~treah@ip68-2-171-76.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 04:10.55 | *** join/#debian mixomathoze (~mixomatho@246.59-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 04:10.57 | Scramblejams | Hmm, looking at my logs, it started when I uninstalled systemd. |
| 04:11.22 | *** join/#debian qaz (474fe7f0@gateway/web/freenode/ip.71.79.231.240) |
| 04:13.08 | Scramblejams | And none of my udev rules match the interface's current mac address. Lovely. |
| 04:13.42 | qaz | Is there a common/large 3rd party repository I could be using? I'm running Sid, but every time I want software that isn't available in the main/contrib/nonfree repo I have to go find a ppa and manually add it to the sources file. |
| 04:15.24 | qaz | Arch and Ubuntu both have several packages I'm looking for in their main repos, but debian does not. Am I missing something, or is there just no way to get them without manually getting random repos. |
| 04:16.49 | justanotheruser | jzk1: should I have a new chroot evironment for each binary unless two are available from the same repo? |
| 04:17.46 | *** join/#debian infinitum (~infinitum@df-001f-1a30-0005.10ge.i6.sungai.nl) |
| 04:18.31 | *** join/#debian D-Boy (~D-Boy@unaffiliated/cain) |
| 04:19.08 | *** join/#debian Zitter (~danilo@host205-179-dynamic.2-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 04:20.41 | qaz | If I have an ubuntu ppa for a program that I can confirm works with debian, what would I have to do to get that package included in the main repo? |
| 04:22.01 | jzk1 | justanotheruser: I'm not sure what you're asking |
| 04:22.17 | *** join/#debian aNnel (~Nnel@host86-189-1-123.range86-189.btcentralplus.com) |
| 04:23.00 | *** join/#debian tsun (~tsun@24-205-58-104.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com) |
| 04:23.05 | *** join/#debian SexIsBad2TheBone (~tk@dslb-088-073-008-187.088.073.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 04:26.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1530] by debhelper |
| 04:26.28 | *** join/#debian garyle (~garyle@c-50-184-103-89.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 04:26.38 | *** join/#debian sennn (~sennn@114.235.47.12) |
| 04:27.25 | sennn | kfreebsd deadï¼ |
| 04:28.05 | *** join/#debian _2_awesomeness21 (~WhatsChat@209-33-149-141.ip.mcleodusa.net) |
| 04:28.24 | _2_awesomeness21 | hey |
| 04:28.28 | *** part/#debian _2_awesomeness21 (~WhatsChat@209-33-149-141.ip.mcleodusa.net) |
| 04:29.21 | *** join/#debian Bleakwise (~russell@2602:30a:c0d9:9649:b0f3:64df:9401:55c9) |
| 04:29.30 | *** join/#debian rryoumaa (~user@ip68-226-110-213.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 04:32.46 | *** join/#debian mennea (~textual@37.46.38.240) |
| 04:35.10 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (~demon@89.43.150.23) |
| 04:35.11 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (~demon@unaffiliated/ra3or) |
| 04:36.02 | *** join/#debian teran (~teran@broadband-109-173-61-206.nationalcablenetworks.ru) |
| 04:36.43 | *** join/#debian james41382 (~james@unaffiliated/james41382) |
| 04:37.36 | *** join/#debian venkat_330 (~Thunderbi@115.252.65.26) |
| 04:40.41 | SexIsBad2TheBone | good morning world |
| 04:40.47 | *** join/#debian frenetik (~frenetik@77-56-105-45.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 04:40.56 | Disconsented | Good afternoon person |
| 04:41.43 | *** join/#debian rolleiflex (~rolleifle@199.21.87.121) |
| 04:42.29 | *** join/#debian anicow` (~m00@c-71-57-219-95.hsd1.va.comcast.net) |
| 04:42.29 | *** join/#debian infinitum (~infinitum@df-001f-1a30-0005.10ge.i6.sungai.nl) |
| 04:43.48 | *** join/#debian Xaero_Vincent (~vince@or-76-2-5-67.dhcp.embarqhsd.net) |
| 04:45.52 | *** part/#debian LinusTorvaldII (~Linux@unaffiliated/linustourvaldsii) |
| 04:49.47 | *** join/#debian ndrei (~avo@83.142.149.227) |
| 04:49.52 | *** join/#debian ndrei_ (~avo@83.142.149.227) |
| 04:49.52 | *** join/#debian ndrei__ (~avo@83.142.149.227) |
| 04:52.45 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~Ben__@118-93-23-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) |
| 04:54.09 | *** join/#debian james41382 (~james@unaffiliated/james41382) |
| 04:54.20 | *** join/#debian huza (~My@123.128.193.165) |
| 04:56.09 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@mail.cickenya.com) |
| 04:56.19 | *** join/#debian Yukiteru (~Yukiteru@unaffiliated/yukiteru) |
| 04:56.49 | *** join/#debian IIT (~IIT@unaffiliated/xtriz) |
| 04:58.04 | *** join/#debian Rokixz (~rokas@5.199.160.9) |
| 04:58.19 | *** join/#debian IIT (~IIT@unaffiliated/xtriz) |
| 04:59.26 | *** join/#debian huza (~My@123.128.193.165) |
| 05:00.28 | *** join/#debian Hacker01 (~Haxker01@188.241.140.120) |
| 05:00.58 | *** join/#debian nirel (nirel@unaffiliated/nirel) |
| 05:02.54 | *** join/#debian mennea (~textual@37.46.38.240) |
| 05:03.37 | *** join/#debian Bleakwise (~russell@2602:30a:c0d9:9649:c572:f508:75e6:11c1) |
| 05:03.50 | *** join/#debian detha (~detha@196.41.3.191) |
| 05:03.53 | *** join/#debian detha (~detha@unaffiliated/detha) |
| 05:05.14 | *** join/#debian L0rdNik0n0 (~L0rdNik0n@h142.6.189.173.dynamic.ip.windstream.net) |
| 05:07.12 | *** join/#debian infinitum (~infinitum@df-001f-1a30-0005.10ge.i6.sungai.nl) |
| 05:08.23 | *** join/#debian bariumbitmap (~nbeaver@162-202-48-157.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) |
| 05:08.58 | *** join/#debian flight18 (~flight16@zz2009100782719dc301.userreverse.dion.ne.jp) |
| 05:10.17 | *** join/#debian Ad1_RN (~adrian@aeg79.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 05:10.27 | *** join/#debian cwarner (~cwarner@snowcap.kernelcode.com) |
| 05:12.31 | *** join/#debian D-Boy (~D-Boy@unaffiliated/cain) |
| 05:12.57 | PitchF | systemd is spyware |
| 05:13.02 | PitchF | it needs to go |
| 05:15.39 | *** join/#debian narbeh (~narbeh@94.101.189.1) |
| 05:15.44 | narbeh | How can I force an HTML file or the Lighttpd server, not to cache a page in users browsers? |
| 05:16.28 | SexIsBad2TheBone | good bye world |
| 05:16.29 | PitchF | you use flash |
| 05:16.33 | *** join/#debian garyle (~garyle@2601:9:5900:e25:79d5:9494:914c:e0f4) |
| 05:17.28 | adh0c | Has there been any community (that is, non-RH) audit of the systemd code base? |
| 05:18.19 | PitchF | yaws |
| 05:18.37 | PitchF | lol |
| 05:18.43 | rryoumaa | you forgot to roll |
| 05:18.45 | PitchF | systemd is here to stay |
| 05:18.56 | *** join/#debian ag4ve_ (~ag4ve@50.242.222.38) |
| 05:19.05 | PitchF | the spayware clans are behind it |
| 05:19.19 | PitchF | so that it |
| 05:19.41 | *** join/#debian SynrG (~synrg@debian/developer/synrg) |
| 05:19.53 | PitchF | everything is going to depend on it |
| 05:19.57 | PitchF | and that that folks |
| 05:20.24 | PitchF | better stop using computers |
| 05:20.47 | adh0c | The US Military is Red Hat's biggest customer. |
| 05:21.50 | *** join/#debian hele (~hele@212-149-221-147.bb.dnainternet.fi) |
| 05:21.57 | adh0c | They're quite open about it: |
| 05:21.59 | adh0c | http://www.redhat.com/en/about/blog/red-Hats-decade-of-collaboration-with-government-and-the-open-source-community |
| 05:22.29 | Simotek-Work- | and presumably they don't want spyware on there computers? |
| 05:22.38 | PitchF | yes all your freecode meant to help people is being subverted to kill people |
| 05:23.10 | PitchF | ofcourse they want spyware in everycomputer |
| 05:23.17 | adh0c | http://linux.slashdot.org/story/14/05/06/1932228/us-military-drones-migrating-to-linux |
| 05:23.28 | PitchF | just that they are the onlyones in control |
| 05:24.15 | PitchF | thats why i would never contributed to open source |
| 05:24.28 | PitchF | they use your code to kill |
| 05:24.32 | adh0c | well that's a bit absurd. |
| 05:24.44 | *** join/#debian SixtyFold (~Absinthe@unaffiliated/sixtyfold) |
| 05:24.46 | PitchF | is it? |
| 05:24.53 | Simotek-Work- | PitchF, your looking at it the wrong way, just think about it, really it means you get the chance to run a military grade init system on your PC |
| 05:25.07 | PitchF | you have no rights how they will use your code |
| 05:25.10 | Simotek-Work- | stops, as all this is #debian-offtopic |
| 05:25.55 | PitchF | sure and military supervisor |
| 05:26.25 | PitchF | im not a military robot |
| 05:26.31 | PitchF | so fuck them |
| 05:26.38 | adh0c | what makes military-grade init systems preferable? |
| 05:27.01 | PitchF | because military-grade init is supervised |
| 05:27.16 | *** join/#debian bleh__ (~user@S0106185933403589.ed.shawcable.net) |
| 05:27.22 | PitchF | they will take care of it for you |
| 05:27.25 | PitchF | arent they nice? |
| 05:27.32 | adh0c | so it's like a free support contract? |
| 05:27.45 | PitchF | yes one way support |
| 05:27.52 | adh0c | lol, you support them that is. |
| 05:28.02 | PitchF | you support them or they make you |
| 05:28.32 | *** join/#debian fkt (~devnull@wardial.me) |
| 05:29.14 | adh0c | well thank god every major distribution adopted it to shave a few seconds off their boot time. |
| 05:29.46 | *** join/#debian frenetik_ (~frenetik@77-56-105-45.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 05:29.50 | fkt | hi all, im running jessie/sid and im trying to install zoneminder and im getting kicked back with this: zoneminder : Depends: libavdevice53 (>= 6:9.1-1) but it is not installable |
| 05:29.53 | *** join/#debian tonythomas (uid25971@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-sjuigzzzjhgfkkhv) |
| 05:30.03 | Epakai | if you want it audited then get cracking, otherwise you're just trolling |
| 05:30.20 | adh0c | i would audit if i was fluent in c. |
| 05:31.05 | Simotek-Work- | adh0c, all you need to look for is SendDataToNSA(); |
| 05:31.54 | *** join/#debian infinitum (~infinitum@df-001f-1a30-0005.10ge.i6.sungai.nl) |
| 05:32.07 | *** join/#debian tokik_ (~tokik@122x212x176x138.ap122.ftth.ucom.ne.jp) |
| 05:32.15 | Epakai | fkt: you're mixing jessie/sid? either way they both break. Dependencies will be unavailable or conficts might be preventing it's install |
| 05:32.56 | *** join/#debian mennea (~textual@37.46.38.240) |
| 05:32.58 | *** join/#debian FreeNow (~FreeNow@205.175.98.173) |
| 05:33.02 | *** part/#debian FreeNow (~FreeNow@205.175.98.173) |
| 05:33.06 | *** join/#debian bleh__ (~user@S0106185933403589.ed.shawcable.net) |
| 05:36.08 | Epakai | sid doesn't currently have a build of libavdevice53, probably stuck waiting for zoneminder to be built against newer version |
| 05:36.28 | *** join/#debian Sri_Designer (~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug) |
| 05:37.57 | *** join/#debian antispaceman (~antispace@cpc26-lutn10-2-0-cust354.9-3.cable.virginm.net) |
| 05:38.13 | *** join/#debian EbolaJackson (~ebola@187.253.149.74) |
| 05:39.00 | *** join/#debian ariscop (~Phase4@2001:44b8:4196:e800:a2a8:cdff:fe1c:74c4) |
| 05:45.20 | *** join/#debian Zyferus (Zyferus@c-174-58-160-193.hsd1.mo.comcast.net) |
| 05:45.30 | *** join/#debian WiXZlo (~WiXZlo@94.19.137.125) |
| 05:46.35 | *** join/#debian vivid (~vivid@c-76-104-215-159.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 05:46.36 | *** join/#debian vivid (~vivid@unaffiliated/vivid) |
| 05:49.37 | *** join/#debian Abhijit (~Abhijit@unaffiliated/abhijit) |
| 05:49.49 | *** part/#debian WiXZlo (~WiXZlo@94.19.137.125) |
| 05:50.45 | *** join/#debian tokik (~tokik@122x212x176x138.ap122.ftth.ucom.ne.jp) |
| 05:55.26 | *** join/#debian olegfusion (~olegfusio@46.191.226.49) |
| 05:56.12 | *** join/#debian glebihan (~glebihan@unaffiliated/glebihan) |
| 05:56.36 | *** join/#debian infinitum (~infinitum@df-001f-1a30-0005.10ge.i6.sungai.nl) |
| 05:58.51 | *** join/#debian instence_ (~instence@user-11fb10h.dsl.mindspring.com) |
| 05:59.16 | instence_ | What is the deb-src sid entry? |
| 05:59.19 | *** join/#debian Sauvin (~Sauvin@about/linux/staff/sauvin) |
| 05:59.25 | instence_ | for sources.list |
| 05:59.33 | *** join/#debian Cyph3r (~Cyph3r@71-84-64-236.dhcp.rvsd.ca.charter.com) |
| 06:00.00 | *** join/#debian myster (myster@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-tgykuvzctjqjuxko) |
| 06:00.24 | instence_ | Looked all over but can't seem to find it listed anywhere. As I am trying to follow the instructions to backport a sid package to stable |
| 06:00.56 | *** join/#debian alexei (~amgarchin@p4FD62C40.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 06:01.16 | Abhijit | instence_, there is one website which generates debian sources.list |
| 06:01.27 | wsky | instence_: same as your binary entry but with deb-src instead of deb prefix |
| 06:01.38 | *** join/#debian calisto (~Icedove@unaffiliated/calisto) |
| 06:03.59 | jalalsfs | instence_, If you use wheezy/stable version, add this line |
| 06:04.15 | jalalsfs | deb-src http://ftp.jp.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free |
| 06:04.24 | instence_ | ok great, much thanks |
| 06:04.30 | wsky | jalalsfs: ye said that he suses sid, that first |
| 06:04.37 | wsky | he* |
| 06:04.47 | wsky | uses* |
| 06:05.00 | *** join/#debian myster (myster@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-quyfsuhvraflgjem) |
| 06:05.26 | jalalsfs | instence_, Do you use wheezy or sid? |
| 06:05.56 | instence_ | I am running wheezy stable, and need to build a wget 1.15 dpkg |
| 06:06.48 | instence_ | so I was going to backport the sid wget package to stable |
| 06:06.49 | wsky | :| |
| 06:06.50 | *** join/#debian teran (~teran@broadband-109-173-61-206.nationalcablenetworks.ru) |
| 06:07.25 | jalalsfs | Okay, then. |
| 06:08.10 | instence_ | So thats the correct line to add? |
| 06:08.39 | *** join/#debian tsun (~tsun@24-205-58-104.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com) |
| 06:08.58 | trix`G | hello. please to add cdrtools to debian repo. please to stop being hostile to users and OSS community. please to stop violating GPL and release all parts of wodim & genisoimage source code. i like debian and don't want to have to switch due to hostile dev. thank you. |
| 06:09.44 | *** join/#debian JonJ (~jon@host-37-191-209-128.lynet.no) |
| 06:10.26 | trix`G | source: http://cdrtools.sourceforge.net/private/linux-dist.html |
| 06:10.33 | trix`G | ego have no place in open source community |
| 06:10.47 | *** join/#debian bangle (~bangle@183.62.57.221) |
| 06:10.48 | *** join/#debian Arieh (sbnc@srver.nl) |
| 06:11.21 | *** join/#debian rauls (~rsalinas@212.118.209.82) |
| 06:12.07 | *** join/#debian tomcheng76 (~tomcheng7@42-98-220-064.static.netvigator.com) |
| 06:17.15 | *** join/#debian sharky (~sharky@unaffiliated/sharky) |
| 06:17.58 | *** join/#debian philipballew (~philip@ubuntu/member/philipballew) |
| 06:18.26 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (~demon@89.43.150.23) |
| 06:18.27 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (~demon@unaffiliated/ra3or) |
| 06:19.21 | *** join/#debian schu-r (~Thunderbi@82-149-107-2.wco.wellcom.at) |
| 06:20.51 | *** join/#debian Jikan (~Jikan@2001:41d0:8:7844::1) |
| 06:23.36 | *** join/#debian bcd (~bcd@albundy.hq.mendix.net) |
| 06:24.25 | *** join/#debian hesperaux_ (~hesperaux@67.213.212.241) |
| 06:24.29 | *** join/#debian Sir_Desi (~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug) |
| 06:24.54 | *** join/#debian Sir_Designer__ (~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug) |
| 06:25.21 | *** join/#debian cbsw (~Thunderbi@202.38.9.93) |
| 06:26.08 | *** join/#debian Lady_Aleena (~L_Aleena@unaffiliated/lady-aleena) |
| 06:26.20 | *** join/#debian frenetik (~frenetik@77-56-105-45.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 06:26.58 | *** join/#debian theotherstupidgu (~theothers@41.32.18.143) |
| 06:27.31 | *** join/#debian peterhinch (~adminpete@cpc19-macc3-2-0-cust174.1-3.cable.virginm.net) |
| 06:27.33 | *** join/#debian grep0r (grep0r@2001:470:1f11:209::13) |
| 06:29.07 | *** join/#debian Windes (Windes@2a01:e34:ed5f:6a40:159c:c1e9:8b41:f6c5) |
| 06:30.18 | *** join/#debian adh0c (~adh0c@ool-457bf784.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 06:30.22 | *** join/#debian catpigger (~catpig@p5B09E718.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 06:31.11 | *** join/#debian Vutral (~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral) |
| 06:35.22 | *** join/#debian knightshade (~knightsha@p548CF79E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 06:35.40 | *** join/#debian nikio_ (~K@50728114.static.ziggozakelijk.nl) |
| 06:38.49 | *** join/#debian aNnel (~Nnel@host86-189-1-123.range86-189.btcentralplus.com) |
| 06:39.37 | *** join/#debian ThKo (~ThKo@p4FED4EB2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 06:40.07 | *** join/#debian schu-r (~Thunderbi@82-149-107-2.wco.wellcom.at) |
| 06:41.03 | *** join/#debian infinitum (~infinitum@df-001f-1a30-0005.10ge.i6.sungai.nl) |
| 06:41.25 | *** join/#debian skribblezatcha (~skribblez@unaffiliated/pencilandpaper) |
| 06:43.07 | *** join/#debian dong (~dong@dce.dongenergy.dk) |
| 06:43.54 | *** join/#debian Knaldgas (~pdj@dce.dongenergy.dk) |
| 06:44.07 | *** join/#debian WiXZlo (~WiXZlo@94.19.137.125) |
| 06:45.29 | *** join/#debian jbanier (~jbanier@ip-83-134-157-109.dsl.scarlet.be) |
| 06:45.44 | *** join/#debian mishal7816 (~Miranda@228.34.broadband9.iol.cz) |
| 06:48.18 | *** join/#debian sifeic (~sifeic@c-75-71-117-103.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 06:48.32 | *** join/#debian TomyLobo (~TomyLobo@ip5b417367.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) |
| 06:49.17 | *** join/#debian timahvo1 (~rogue@mail.cickenya.com) |
| 06:50.08 | *** join/#debian Sir_Designer (~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug) |
| 06:50.31 | *** join/#debian daniel-s (~daniel-s@220-244-249-183.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 06:50.47 | *** join/#debian ilk__ (~ilken@99-194-250-208.dyn.centurytel.net) |
| 06:51.17 | *** join/#debian grzesiek (~User@bvm164.internetdsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 06:52.47 | instence_ | i ended up building wget 1.16 from source |
| 06:52.51 | instence_ | was easier |
| 06:54.28 | *** join/#debian teran (~teran@broadband-109-173-61-206.nationalcablenetworks.ru) |
| 06:54.48 | *** join/#debian netsnail (~netsnail@223.71.241.38) |
| 06:55.20 | *** join/#debian CeBe (~CeBe@port-92-206-123-83.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 06:56.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1536] by debhelper |
| 06:56.16 | *** part/#debian WiXZlo (~WiXZlo@94.19.137.125) |
| 06:56.30 | *** join/#debian gribouille (~rrrrrr@108.160.31.93.rev.sfr.net) |
| 06:56.39 | *** part/#debian peterhinch (~adminpete@cpc19-macc3-2-0-cust174.1-3.cable.virginm.net) |
| 06:56.43 | gribouille | hi |
| 06:57.48 | *** join/#debian r420r (isaacbsd@unaffiliated/r420r) |
| 06:58.08 | gribouille | is is possible to have information about the SATA interface? |
| 06:58.25 | *** join/#debian kottlett (~quassel@dslb-088-073-079-113.088.073.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 06:59.24 | *** join/#debian unkmar (~unkmar@host-198-254-89-213.VABOLT2.epbfi.com) |
| 07:00.05 | *** join/#debian peterhinch_ (~peterhinc@cpc19-macc3-2-0-cust174.1-3.cable.virginm.net) |
| 07:01.37 | *** join/#debian cynicallemon (~cynicalle@gateway/tor-sasl/cynicallemon) |
| 07:02.17 | *** join/#debian CHVNX (~CHVNX@unaffiliated/chvnx) |
| 07:03.39 | trix`G | yes |
| 07:03.58 | trix`G | if you google "SATA interface" you will probably get information about the SATA interface |
| 07:04.25 | trix`G | if that doesn't answer your question than you'll have to be more specific |
| 07:04.39 | *** join/#debian swordsmanz (~swordsman@unaffiliated/swordsmanz) |
| 07:05.15 | *** join/#debian infinitum (~infinitum@df-001f-1a30-0005.10ge.i6.sungai.nl) |
| 07:05.42 | gribouille | trix`G, I want to by an ssd. I want to know the transfer rate I can expect from my computer |
| 07:06.02 | *** join/#debian SlaGTaTs (~bilbo@cpc3-donc11-2-0-cust325.17-1.cable.virginm.net) |
| 07:07.41 | trix`G | gribouille: Oh sata is 150MB/s and sata2 is 300MB/s and sata3 is 600MB/s |
| 07:08.26 | trix`G | which I got from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_ATA |
| 07:09.26 | *** join/#debian acebarry (~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/acebarry) |
| 07:10.12 | *** join/#debian bal (~Thunderbi@86.125.63.66) |
| 07:10.45 | *** join/#debian SynrGy (~synrg@debian/developer/synrg) |
| 07:11.18 | *** join/#debian stackofcats (~stackofca@unaffiliated/stackofcats) |
| 07:11.46 | *** join/#debian xryz (~xryz@89.129.8.210) |
| 07:11.51 | *** join/#debian tralala (~user@unaffiliated/tralala) |
| 07:12.19 | *** join/#debian xryz (~xryz@89.129.8.210) |
| 07:12.49 | *** join/#debian xryz (~xryz@89.129.8.210) |
| 07:12.54 | gribouille | trix`G, I know that. I just don't know the sata interface in my computer |
| 07:12.57 | *** join/#debian sifeic (~sifeic@c-75-71-117-103.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 07:13.08 | *** join/#debian winterss (~wint@c-71-228-128-169.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 07:13.08 | *** join/#debian delaytime0 (~delaytime@ip-176-52-204-18.static.reverse.dsi.net) |
| 07:13.12 | trix`G | ohh |
| 07:13.19 | trix`G | apt-get install sysinfo |
| 07:13.21 | *** join/#debian teddybeermaniac (~teddybeer@178.217.186.211) |
| 07:13.23 | *** join/#debian xryz (~xryz@89.129.8.210) |
| 07:13.53 | *** join/#debian xryz (~xryz@89.129.8.210) |
| 07:14.23 | *** join/#debian xryz (~xryz@89.129.8.210) |
| 07:14.34 | *** join/#debian NetEcho (~NetEcho@unaffiliated/netecho) |
| 07:15.23 | gribouille | trix`G, what what command do Ihave to type? |
| 07:16.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1542] by debhelper |
| 07:16.03 | trix`G | gribouille: you just need to find out what kind of computer you have and google it. If it's home-built google your motherboard, if it's OEM (Dell, HP, Gateway, etc) google the model to get the sata class |
| 07:16.05 | *** join/#debian koderok (~koderok@223.187.212.251) |
| 07:16.50 | gribouille | trix`G, does sysinfo give me the information or not? |
| 07:16.55 | trix`G | if you install "sysinfo" it can tell you what kind of computer you have, and some hardware info |
| 07:17.54 | trix`G | sysinfo will give you information you can google to get your motherboard, which is what determines sata class. If your motherboard has SATA r3 that's what a new ssd will use |
| 07:18.16 | trix`G | you can also go by how old your computer is |
| 07:18.36 | *** join/#debian Slydder (~chuck@ip1f13dea6.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) |
| 07:19.01 | *** join/#debian pramsky (~pramodv@50.248.196.41) |
| 07:19.28 | *** join/#debian Simotek-Work- (~Simotek@opensuse/member/simotek) |
| 07:19.39 | trix`G | if it's less than 5 years old it most likely has sata 3, unless built for "sata express" which uses both sata and pci |
| 07:20.05 | trix`G | bus* |
| 07:20.25 | gribouille | trix`G, it's a dell poweredge t620 |
| 07:20.33 | *** join/#debian Merixer (~Merixer@c83-253-187-218.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 07:20.48 | trix`G | oh |
| 07:20.49 | trix`G | wait |
| 07:20.54 | trix`G | a poweredge server with sata? |
| 07:21.04 | trix`G | i have three poweredge and all are SCSI |
| 07:21.25 | gribouille | trix`G, is it bad? |
| 07:21.50 | trix`G | SCSI much much faster |
| 07:22.49 | towski | a bunch of garbage just showed up in my terminal |
| 07:22.50 | trix`G | oh it looks like it has both sata and scsi |
| 07:23.05 | towski | all these bad characters |
| 07:23.09 | trix`G | and it's newer so it has the fast sata, all my poweredge are old, my newest is 2900 |
| 07:23.24 | towski | I feel like I got hacked somehow |
| 07:23.40 | trix`G | towski: ghosts trying to communicate the only way you'll listen |
| 07:23.49 | trix`G | towski: just ignore them and they go away eventually |
| 07:24.15 | towski | heh |
| 07:24.39 | *** join/#debian AquaL1te (~AquaL1te@145.100.1.120) |
| 07:25.18 | *** join/#debian mennea (~textual@bzq-79-181-51-151.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 07:25.56 | *** join/#debian jalalsfs (~jalal@unaffiliated/jalalsfs) |
| 07:26.12 | trix`G | i have 8 15krpm SCSI drives in my poweredge 2900 server, in RAID10. super OMG fast. I use the server only to browse the internet when my gf is on my computer |
| 07:26.40 | *** join/#debian wabuh (~wabuh@149.154.200.174) |
| 07:26.44 | trix`G | and, doing nothing else but running debian, xfce4, and firefox, IT FREAKING LAGS |
| 07:27.00 | trix`G | how stupid is that |
| 07:27.00 | *** join/#debian wabuh (~wabuh@149.154.200.174) |
| 07:27.15 | *** join/#debian slav0nic (~slav0nic@pdpc/supporter/student/slav0nic) |
| 07:27.53 | *** join/#debian bangle (~bangle@183.62.57.221) |
| 07:28.00 | trix`G | two Xeon processors, both of them dual core for four-core processing. And it lags trying to render a webpage. |
| 07:28.26 | cynicallemon | trix`G: that maybe due to it graphics capability |
| 07:28.45 | tugrik | trix`G: tbh, that's good to read - I've got a much less powerful desktop, but still pretty good, and yes, web page loading under firefox or chromium is poor... I figured it was me |
| 07:29.00 | trix`G | what graphics capability? I tried to run Neverputt and it flat out ignored me. |
| 07:29.11 | *** join/#debian daniel-s (~daniel-s@220-244-249-183.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 07:29.44 | *** join/#debian daniel-s (~daniel-s@220-244-249-183.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 07:30.15 | trix`G | tugrik: you maybe misunderstand. my PC is very weak, single core, and old, but can browse the web just fine. The server though, has a 16mb graphics card that's not really a graphics card but more of a "somewhere to plug a monitor" card. |
| 07:30.20 | *** join/#debian daniel-s (~daniel-s@220-244-249-183.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 07:30.28 | cynicallemon | if you have slow loading web pages and you have a good internet connection then it be a conflict between the ipv4/6 stacks |
| 07:30.51 | trix`G | no you were right the first time cynicallemon |
| 07:31.06 | cynicallemon | :) |
| 07:31.12 | trix`G | it lags a bit rendering the page, but lags the most scrolling up or down it |
| 07:31.31 | trix`G | it takes me literally 10 minutes to scroll to the bottom of a bash.org page |
| 07:32.09 | cynicallemon | trix`G: ouch |
| 07:32.26 | trix`G | well, if I do so by clicking the arrows on the scroll bar. If I use mousewheel it's slightly faster, and if I use PgDown it's not too bad |
| 07:32.44 | towski | what is /usr/bin/xprop -root -spy |
| 07:32.52 | cynicallemon | trix`G: can you assign more memory to the graphics in bios? |
| 07:32.57 | trix`G | but there's a full 5+ seconds delay from when I click/press button and when the page even begins to start moving |
| 07:33.14 | trix`G | cynicallemon: it doesn't use the RAM it only uses the 16mb built into the card |
| 07:33.16 | *** join/#debian joo-_ (~joo@55e9f478.rev.dansknet.dk) |
| 07:33.19 | *** join/#debian aNnel (~Nnel@host86-189-1-123.range86-189.btcentralplus.com) |
| 07:33.21 | trix`G | servers aren't really supposed to be running X |
| 07:33.23 | cynicallemon | ok |
| 07:33.31 | *** join/#debian Timmy (~irssi@unaffiliated/timmyt) |
| 07:33.38 | cynicallemon | well windows servers do lol |
| 07:34.00 | trix`G | that's true, when my brother had it he said the graphics performance was much better in windows |
| 07:34.15 | cynicallemon | that would be true |
| 07:34.24 | trix`G | but I plan to set it up via distcc to help my gentoo system compile code, eventually |
| 07:34.27 | *** join/#debian vogti (~chatzilla@p5DC27E9A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 07:34.40 | *** join/#debian fenix (~fenix@mail.lbathivel.com) |
| 07:34.57 | trix`G | anyway my much older poweredge server, an 1800, has MUCH better graphics capability |
| 07:35.28 | trix`G | and anyway I have an old ATI Radeon 2800Pro that I can stuff into the pe2900 server to fix the problem (and then some) |
| 07:35.53 | cynicallemon | trix`G: yep another addon card would fix it |
| 07:35.55 | trix`G | but since the card is pcie-16 and the server only has a pcie-8 slot, I have to cut some of the pins off the card with a saw |
| 07:36.08 | trix`G | so it fits in the slot |
| 07:36.34 | cynicallemon | trix`G: never tried that, sounds dodgy |
| 07:36.53 | trix`G | it works, it'll just only go at 8x on the slot |
| 07:37.15 | trix`G | so, something like 15-20% performance hit |
| 07:37.33 | trix`G | still 10,000,000,000% better than current graphics performance |
| 07:37.35 | cynicallemon | just make sure the cut is ultra clean, one stray sliver of copper and bang |
| 07:37.39 | *** join/#debian hckjck (~handerek@f052233135.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 07:38.02 | trix`G | yeah, but there's a good milimeter of plastic between each pin, and I have steady hands |
| 07:38.04 | *** join/#debian gruumine (~gruumine@115-186-135-21.nayatel.pk) |
| 07:38.11 | cynicallemon | :) |
| 07:38.12 | trix`G | it's not as touchy as it would seem |
| 07:38.59 | *** join/#debian dreki (~dreki@c-67-187-115-9.hsd1.tn.comcast.net) |
| 07:39.45 | trix`G | still though this server seems way overkill for my current use, even with distcc i wouldn't be using it enough to justify having it on |
| 07:40.09 | *** join/#debian pclover (~pclover@unaffiliated/pclov3r) |
| 07:40.53 | pclover | So i noticed something weird maybe you can help. A USB device was filling the kernel buffer with "error no room on ep ring" |
| 07:41.01 | pclover | a backported kernel appears to have resolved the issue |
| 07:41.14 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~Ben__@118-93-23-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) |
| 07:41.15 | *** join/#debian zoso (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 07:41.22 | *** join/#debian ioio_ (~ioio@37-1-162-187.ip.skylogicnet.com) |
| 07:41.50 | trix`G | uh |
| 07:42.08 | *** join/#debian joo-_ (~joo@55e9f478.rev.dansknet.dk) |
| 07:42.10 | *** join/#debian ayaz (~Ayaz@linuxpakistan/ayaz) |
| 07:42.20 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (~demon@unaffiliated/ra3or) |
| 07:42.44 | trix`G | i'd google it for you but i'm currently trying to look up how to fix my messed up network |
| 07:42.57 | pclover | i googled as well |
| 07:43.05 | pclover | and saw the issue was fixed in a backported kernel |
| 07:43.07 | pclover | and it appears to have solved it |
| 07:43.19 | trix`G | cool, so what do you need help with? |
| 07:43.46 | pclover | just curious why it occurred and if there is a fix for it. As backported kernels afik are not exactly stable |
| 07:44.02 | *** join/#debian ayaz (~Ayaz@linuxpakistan/ayaz) |
| 07:45.38 | *** join/#debian xryz (~xryz@unaffiliated/xryz) |
| 07:46.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1548] by debhelper |
| 07:46.01 | trix`G | oh. Well I've never heard of it and can't look it up at the moment, but if I were you I'd try to find a kernel bug report for it and if there isn't one, make one, and if there is, hooray because in either case that means the issue is likely to be fixed in future kernel version |
| 07:46.12 | trix`G | and in meantime people often post a patch in the bug report comments |
| 07:47.00 | pclover | hum ok |
| 07:47.33 | pclover | found this https://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2014/06/msg00149.html |
| 07:47.34 | *** join/#debian tuor-work (~quassel@212.25.21.185) |
| 07:48.13 | *** join/#debian Xanthor (~Xanthor@ip-110.net-80-236-54.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 07:49.33 | *** join/#debian darthanubis (~darthanub@unaffiliated/darthanubis) |
| 07:49.54 | *** join/#debian hourd (~hourd@cpc11-brom10-2-0-cust419.16-1.cable.virginm.net) |
| 07:50.14 | *** join/#debian infinitum (~infinitum@df-001f-1a30-0005.10ge.i6.sungai.nl) |
| 07:51.10 | trix`G | ok i checked that out for you and yeah it says it's already fixed in new version, so either compile newer kernel from source or wait until official release |
| 07:51.15 | *** join/#debian GeHa (~GeHa@u152-34.static.grapesc.cz) |
| 07:51.52 | pclover | i guess i'll just use the backport for now |
| 07:51.54 | trix`G | or if you understand the code you can merge those specific changes in yourself, since the bug report guy awesomely linked to each specific commit |
| 07:51.57 | *** join/#debian paranoids (~markus@81.94.53.5) |
| 07:52.06 | pclover | i'm not a code guy lol |
| 07:52.22 | *** join/#debian zeRez (~zeRez@185.57.82.25) |
| 07:53.23 | trix`G | compile a new kernel is not as hard as it sounds, no code needed, but only something I'd recommend if you're on your own home PC and have some time and another source of google to use while you do it |
| 07:53.25 | *** join/#debian Bwithmore19 (~Bwithmore@222.127.85.164) |
| 07:53.51 | *** join/#debian Cybertinus (~Cybertinu@cybertinus.customer.cloud.nl) |
| 07:54.06 | trix`G | and you'd also run the risk that the newer less tested kernel has a different bug not found yet |
| 07:54.13 | pclover | i've done it in the past |
| 07:54.32 | pclover | i guess the backport will be fine |
| 07:54.42 | trix`G | is backport causing any issues for you? |
| 07:54.44 | pclover | if it crashes it wont be a big deal |
| 07:54.47 | pclover | not so far |
| 07:54.52 | *** join/#debian joo-_ (~joo@55e9f478.rev.dansknet.dk) |
| 07:55.00 | trix`G | oh, well if it isn't broken... :) |
| 07:55.11 | pclover | for now lol |
| 07:55.23 | trix`G | you trying hard to jinx it :P |
| 07:55.49 | *** join/#debian tdn (~tdn@62.198.234.11) |
| 07:55.50 | *** join/#debian totte (~totte@unaffiliated/totte) |
| 07:56.37 | *** join/#debian NetEcho (~NetEcho@unaffiliated/netecho) |
| 07:57.07 | trix`G | see most of my problems my own fault. things work great but then i must tinker. "i think i'll try get hardware-accel graphics in console mode with background picture and working mouse!" |
| 07:57.09 | rgr|and80 | big time trying too hard. backported kernels not stable? wtf? |
| 07:57.13 | phix | trix`G: If it aint broke, tweak and optimise it :) |
| 07:57.20 | trix`G | two days later "why wont it even boot now?" |
| 07:57.39 | phix | trix`G: Experiment in Virtual Machines |
| 07:57.45 | trix`G | nooo |
| 07:57.53 | phix | trix`G: take regular snapshots and revert when things dont work |
| 07:58.01 | trix`G | because then I hit problem and go "oh screw it" and delete vm and make new |
| 07:58.03 | phix | trix`G: yes |
| 07:58.14 | phix | trix`G: no no revert to snapshot |
| 07:58.17 | trix`G | yeah, but I learn more when I make big problem then must learn to fix it |
| 07:58.19 | phix | dont wipe the whole VM |
| 07:58.22 | trix`G | without cheating |
| 07:58.30 | CCFL_Man | the stable kernel in wheezy doesn't seem to support my hdmi audio interface, can i run on an unstable kernel without issue? |
| 07:58.33 | trix`G | snapshot like emulator save state - CHEAT! :P |
| 07:58.41 | phix | trix`G: that is fine unless you are doing this in the real world for a company :) |
| 07:59.00 | pclover | i guess a backported kernel gets some testing done? |
| 07:59.05 | trix`G | hah real world i wash dishes, only thing i break is glasses |
| 07:59.06 | pclover | compared to sid were no testing is done |
| 07:59.23 | towski | what is rtkit |
| 07:59.29 | phix | trix`G: :) well in that case do your trial and error without reverting from a snapshot |
| 08:00.02 | trix`G | see that the problem, if snapshot possible I will use. I play real nintendo not emulator because I KNOW i will save state |
| 08:00.06 | trix`G | i am big cheater |
| 08:00.17 | CCFL_Man | pclover: i know that when i installed a backported newer kernel, i had to set up my network settings again |
| 08:01.16 | CCFL_Man | i'm not sure why |
| 08:01.20 | trix`G | but now I have fancy console on real computer, thanks to bravery of not using VM :P |
| 08:03.20 | towski | I see a lot of these errors: |
| 08:03.21 | towski | wpa_supplicant[810]: nl80211: send_and_recv->nl_recvmsgs failed: -33 |
| 08:03.33 | trix`G | towski: google found http://packages.ubuntu.com/lucid/rtkit |
| 08:03.37 | trix`G | to your question |
| 08:04.12 | towski | yeah I saw it |
| 08:04.20 | towski | it just looked suspiciously similar to rootkit |
| 08:04.41 | trix`G | actually duckduckgo found that, i just use google as verb, not as actual search engine :P |
| 08:05.01 | trix`G | PRISM == 1984! |
| 08:05.30 | towski | i did some rootkit checks and didn't find much, but I still think I got hacked somehow |
| 08:06.04 | trix`G | usually when hacked, hacker has own terminal into your system, rather than hijack your keyboard to type gibberish |
| 08:06.13 | trix`G | might be weird input device issue |
| 08:06.43 | *** join/#debian Brain (~brain@cpc70879-mfld16-2-0-cust190.13-1.cable.virginm.net) |
| 08:07.10 | *** join/#debian nikio_ (K@wlan-145-94-185-197.wlan.tudelft.nl) |
| 08:07.26 | trix`G | well, you said garbage showed up in your terminal |
| 08:07.31 | *** join/#debian dayangkun (~dayangkun@101.78.195.61) |
| 08:07.33 | trix`G | but like, on the command line as if you typed it? |
| 08:07.46 | towski | no it was not as I typed |
| 08:07.50 | trix`G | or as output like a program |
| 08:07.51 | *** join/#debian rustyraptor (~rustyrapt@5.108.8.179) |
| 08:07.57 | *** join/#debian doev (~doev@p4FE13470.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 08:08.01 | *** join/#debian cpc26_ (~cpc26@fsf/member/cpc26) |
| 08:08.02 | towski | like a program |
| 08:08.05 | towski | but nothing was running |
| 08:08.14 | towski | I think I had typed top |
| 08:08.36 | trix`G | yeah sometimes you kill a program and it give command line back to you, but then still output stuff afterward while slowly terminates |
| 08:08.52 | trix`G | maybe that happened? |
| 08:09.14 | *** join/#debian smica (~smica@business-86-101-180-92.business.broadband.hu) |
| 08:09.29 | *** join/#debian mikul (~mikul@c83-248-199-82.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 08:09.48 | trix`G | the exact content of the garbage would help figure it out, if you can pastebin it |
| 08:09.49 | towski | there weren't any like jobs running |
| 08:10.03 | towski | sure ill screencap and paste |
| 08:10.03 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~Ben__@118-93-23-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) |
| 08:10.44 | *** join/#debian Jaeko (Jaeko@host142-29-dynamic.41-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 08:10.47 | Jaeko | DOWNLOAD THIS GAME IS FOR FREE http://www.indiedb.com/games/the-brave-ball/downloads/the-brave-ball-alpha-demo |
| 08:10.55 | towski | http://imgur.com/b58791N |
| 08:11.03 | trix`G | DO NOT TELL ME WHAT TO DO YOU NOT THE BOSS OF ME, MOM |
| 08:11.27 | *** join/#debian alexlist_ (~alexlist@194-166-8-87.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 08:11.34 | trix`G | oh towski im in console mode so i have to wget image and view locally, can you link directly to image file by chance? |
| 08:11.42 | towski | http://imgur.com/zAR9N8R |
| 08:11.48 | towski | yeah |
| 08:12.00 | towski | http://i.imgur.com/GZiJRdX.png |
| 08:12.30 | trix`G | whoa |
| 08:12.48 | trix`G | when you typed into terminal did your letters become garbage too? |
| 08:12.56 | towski | no |
| 08:13.00 | towski | I've had that happen tons of times before |
| 08:13.09 | towski | that just seems like an encoding thing |
| 08:13.11 | trix`G | oh well then that is weird |
| 08:13.27 | trix`G | very weird, i can see top below it |
| 08:13.47 | towski | yeah its like garbage just got pasted into the memory or something |
| 08:13.51 | *** join/#debian TomyWork (~tomy@85.199.84.100) |
| 08:14.17 | trix`G | maybe really weird bug in top? Did it only happen when you run top? |
| 08:14.35 | trix`G | like what was going on in terminal at the time it begin? |
| 08:14.48 | *** join/#debian Bierdieb (~Weyand@p57A3C98D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 08:14.55 | *** join/#debian infinitum (~infinitum@df-001f-1a30-0005.10ge.i6.sungai.nl) |
| 08:14.55 | *** join/#debian daniel-s (~daniel-s@220-244-249-183.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 08:16.08 | towski | i guess it could be |
| 08:16.22 | towski | actually |
| 08:16.29 | towski | I think it happened before top |
| 08:16.30 | *** join/#debian TildaTurn (~tilda@unaffiliated/tildaturn) |
| 08:16.49 | trix`G | what did you do before top |
| 08:17.00 | towski | oh actually |
| 08:17.05 | towski | it might be the output of a curl command |
| 08:17.17 | towski | that happened a while before |
| 08:17.33 | towski | I curled an image |
| 08:17.44 | towski | and a few hours later it shat into my terminal |
| 08:18.02 | trix`G | oh haha |
| 08:18.05 | trix`G | yeah that's probably it |
| 08:18.06 | relaxed | you probably sent it to stdout, typing "reset" should fix it. |
| 08:18.30 | *** join/#debian ylt (~ylt@d3s.co) |
| 08:19.03 | *** join/#debian zorg1 (~zorg1@artis3.probesys.com) |
| 08:19.49 | *** join/#debian gtristan (~gtristan_@121.162.195.135) |
| 08:20.28 | *** join/#debian Juzzika (~Qman@91.183.62.67) |
| 08:20.29 | towski | yeah it didn't mess up my input |
| 08:20.34 | towski | it just seemed to hijack it |
| 08:20.59 | *** join/#debian GGflags (~lolilol@LMontsouris-656-01-130-32.w193-253.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 08:21.23 | *** join/#debian iomari (~iomari@196.46.245.151) |
| 08:22.20 | trix`G | "this package not verified" warning when apt-get installing is caused by not updating in awhile, correct? |
| 08:23.38 | *** join/#debian daniel-s (~daniel-s@220-244-249-183.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 08:26.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1557] by debhelper |
| 08:27.17 | talin | hello. do you normally use stable or testing for desktop? |
| 08:27.30 | *** join/#debian aNnel (~Nnel@host86-189-1-123.range86-189.btcentralplus.com) |
| 08:27.39 | *** join/#debian GusBricker (~GusBricke@CPE-120-149-34-233.oirx2.lon.bigpond.net.au) |
| 08:28.15 | *** join/#debian caffeinep0wered (~chris@cpc1-sgyl27-2-0-cust796.sgyl.cable.virginm.net) |
| 08:28.38 | *** join/#debian harobed (~harobed@equ57-1-78-235-121-109.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 08:28.40 | *** join/#debian avvs (~avvs@gateway/tor-sasl/avvs) |
| 08:29.58 | *** join/#debian HeavyMetal (~HeavyMeta@unaffiliated/heavymetal) |
| 08:30.05 | trix`G | talin: is not stable vs testing, it stable vs unstable vs testing |
| 08:30.28 | *** join/#debian dreamon_ (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) |
| 08:30.37 | trix`G | talin: i use stable for desktop, and install individual unstable packages only when i need feature from that newer version of package |
| 08:30.38 | *** join/#debian ki0 (~ki0@212.230.172.17) |
| 08:31.15 | *** join/#debian smica (~smica@business-86-101-180-92.business.broadband.hu) |
| 08:31.20 | talin | trix`G: i see. do you ever install from testing? |
| 08:31.23 | trix`G | and if i *really* need an even newer package, i might delve into testing or compile it myself |
| 08:31.40 | trix`G | yes, and in some case I even install newest pre-release source code |
| 08:31.46 | talin | trix`G: hmm, isn't unstable the bleeding edge part? |
| 08:31.57 | thoonai | hey, I'm searching for a method to encrypt a file with a key file |
| 08:32.01 | *** join/#debian tormen_ (~me@188.165.109.34) |
| 08:32.06 | trix`G | like in case of cdrtools in debian since debian is hostile to its users and blocks it |
| 08:32.15 | trix`G | have to compile from source |
| 08:32.16 | thoonai | gnupg somehow does not offer this |
| 08:32.29 | talin | hmm, i see |
| 08:34.40 | trix`G | thoonai: what you mean gnupg not offer it? it does! |
| 08:34.57 | trix`G | thoonai: http://www.thegeekstuff.com/2013/02/gpg-encrypt-decrypt/ |
| 08:36.33 | *** join/#debian talin (~dhf@unaffiliated/talin) |
| 08:36.38 | trix`G | like any encryption just put key into a file, and poof keyfile. If that key only way to decrypt file, it make keyfile necessary or file stay encrypted |
| 08:36.43 | *** join/#debian DrSkyLizard (~quassel@unaffiliated/shiningthrough) |
| 08:38.13 | thoonai | trix`G: no it does not, thing what you pasted is about asymetric encryption |
| 08:38.31 | thoonai | trix`G: its with public/private key pairs |
| 08:38.37 | *** join/#debian infinitum (~infinitum@df-001f-1a30-0005.10ge.i6.sungai.nl) |
| 08:38.54 | *** join/#debian aau_ (~S@37.209.227.84) |
| 08:38.59 | *** join/#debian schu-r (~Thunderbi@82-149-107-2.wco.wellcom.at) |
| 08:40.19 | thoonai | I'd like to have an symmetric encryption with a different symmetric key each time |
| 08:40.36 | thoonai | a big one if possible, like 4k or 8k bits |
| 08:40.45 | trix`G | ohhhh |
| 08:40.55 | trix`G | sorry I misunderstood |
| 08:41.19 | trix`G | i thought you just wanted an encrypted file that couldn't be opened without a keyfile |
| 08:41.55 | *** join/#debian lennycz (~lennycz@ip-89-177-132-112.net.upcbroadband.cz) |
| 08:42.41 | thoonai | trix`G: yeah sure, thats step two, but first I need a secure way to encrypt a file symmetrically |
| 08:43.19 | *** join/#debian karimb (~kboumedhe@89.107.183.3) |
| 08:43.25 | *** join/#debian Gurty (~princess@unaffiliated/gurty) |
| 08:44.28 | *** join/#debian xSmurf (~MrSmurf@gateway/tor-sasl/mrsmurf) |
| 08:45.09 | *** join/#debian meaneye (~meaneye@IGLD-84-228-23-186.inter.net.il) |
| 08:45.14 | *** join/#debian frdmn (~frdmn@r2-d2.yeahwh.at) |
| 08:46.10 | *** join/#debian TildaTurn (~tilda@unaffiliated/tildaturn) |
| 08:46.11 | *** join/#debian Dirkos (c1ad1c82@gateway/web/freenode/ip.193.173.28.130) |
| 08:46.38 | Dirkos | I want to add a *.domain.tld certificate to my server. Does this still cover the complete CSR the correct way? |
| 08:46.38 | Dirkos | https://danieljamesscott.org/10-articles/configuration-guides/21-ssl-certificate-csr-generation.html |
| 08:46.49 | *** join/#debian corey84- (~Corey84@unaffiliated/corey84) |
| 08:48.02 | thoonai | so I found 'enc' possibly the thing I'm searching for |
| 08:49.35 | *** join/#debian chthon (~forcefsck@193.120.208.221) |
| 08:54.09 | *** join/#debian JonJ (~jon@host-37-191-209-128.lynet.no) |
| 08:54.52 | *** join/#debian hckjck (~handerek@pd95ccb96.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 08:55.05 | *** join/#debian daniel-s (~daniel-s@220-244-249-183.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 08:55.09 | *** join/#debian tormen__ (~me@188.165.109.34) |
| 08:57.45 | *** join/#debian richac (cooloutac@ircbouncehouse.com) |
| 08:57.53 | *** join/#debian kooldavi (~kooldavi@sign-4d094511.pool.mediaways.net) |
| 08:58.20 | *** join/#debian l0p3n (~kristian@unaffiliated/l0p3n) |
| 08:58.52 | Iridos | trix`G, you shouldn't install packages from testing into stable. either get them from backports or backport them yourself (/msg dpkg backports /msg dpkg ssb and also /msg dpkg frankendebian ) |
| 08:59.02 | *** join/#debian Kulrak (kulrak@C-59-101-24-37.hay.connect.net.au) |
| 08:59.02 | *** join/#debian Kulrak (kulrak@tlug/member/kulrak) |
| 08:59.04 | *** join/#debian Sbroker` (~DebianSta@unaffiliated/sbroker) |
| 08:59.08 | Mathisen | hello im using subsonic to stream my music but i want an easy way to get my podcasts also and that is a premium feature does any one know any free alternative for podcasts ? |
| 08:59.51 | trix`G | Iridos: It very rare I do that, if I need newest version I compile from source |
| 09:00.44 | *** join/#debian rustyraptor (~rustyrapt@5.108.3.157) |
| 09:02.33 | Iridos | it's not safe... only is safe when it doesn't pull in any dependencies (i.e. libraries) that are used by anything else |
| 09:02.53 | *** join/#debian fUNKIAM` (~x@core.deephouse.lv) |
| 09:03.22 | *** join/#debian infinitum (~infinitum@df-001f-1a30-0005.10ge.i6.sungai.nl) |
| 09:05.10 | *** join/#debian AciD`` (~gni@jau72-5-78-223-56-21.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 09:05.14 | Iridos | thoonai, you never asked the <real question> |
| 09:05.17 | Iridos | dpkg real question |
| 09:05.17 | dpkg | Please tell us what the real problem is instead of asking about things that you think are related to the problem, or that are an obstacle in what you see as the way to the solution. Far too often, what you think related to the problem actually isn't or won't help you solve your problem. Even if it does, we might provide an even better/simpler solution that you did not think of. Also see <xyproblem>. |
| 09:05.22 | *** join/#debian Sir_Designer (~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug) |
| 09:05.23 | *** part/#debian richac (cooloutac@ircbouncehouse.com) |
| 09:05.33 | *** join/#debian valeriansaliou (~valerian@176.116.69.91.rev.sfr.net) |
| 09:06.47 | nopf | thoonai: you could set up an encrypted dir with ecryptfs. then simple move files into that dir and retrieve them from the underlaying real dir and the other way round |
| 09:07.37 | *** join/#debian wnkz (~wnkz@ACaen-110-1-4-6.w80-15.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 09:07.45 | *** join/#debian wabuh (~wabuh@149.154.200.174) |
| 09:09.17 | *** join/#debian richac (cooloutac@ircbouncehouse.com) |
| 09:10.57 | *** join/#debian tormen0815__ (~me@188.165.109.34) |
| 09:11.39 | *** join/#debian rauls (~rsalinas@212.118.209.82) |
| 09:12.24 | *** join/#debian Babalau (~julian@202-161-30-94.dyn.iinet.net.au) |
| 09:12.33 | *** join/#debian tkl2 (~tkl@p5486BEC5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 09:12.58 | *** join/#debian e-anima (~eanima@p54A84AA4.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 09:13.00 | *** join/#debian Twinkletoes (~chatzilla@213.218.195.112) |
| 09:13.00 | *** join/#debian mennea (~textual@bzq-109-64-201-239.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 09:15.03 | *** join/#debian nikio_ (K@wlan-145-94-185-197.wlan.tudelft.nl) |
| 09:15.08 | *** join/#debian theotherstupidgu (~theothers@41.32.18.143) |
| 09:16.08 | *** join/#debian KolK (~KolK@goldnet.4web.pl) |
| 09:16.39 | *** join/#debian wojtas (~wojtas@unaffiliated/wojtas) |
| 09:17.32 | *** join/#debian redeemed (m@nat/ibm/x-fksugkqwnadnxnvh) |
| 09:18.29 | *** join/#debian adh0c (~adh0c@ool-457bf784.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 09:20.01 | *** join/#debian daniel-s (~daniel-s@220-244-249-183.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 09:20.09 | *** join/#debian shinnya (~shinnya@2.173.210.220.dy.bbexcite.jp) |
| 09:21.22 | *** join/#debian amin (~amin@37.63.166.19) |
| 09:21.32 | amin | how to solve this? http://paste.debian.net/129202/ |
| 09:21.36 | *** join/#debian aNnel (~Nnel@host86-189-1-123.range86-189.btcentralplus.com) |
| 09:22.10 | *** join/#debian aswen (~aswen@smtp3.nedap.com) |
| 09:22.29 | *** join/#debian m8 (~m8@unaffiliated/m8) |
| 09:22.34 | *** join/#debian adellam (~adellam@pdpc/supporter/active/adellam) |
| 09:22.35 | *** join/#debian gusnan_ (~gusnan@81-230-126-193-no160.bredband.skanova.com) |
| 09:26.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1569] by debhelper |
| 09:27.33 | *** join/#debian gusnan (~gusnan@81-230-126-193-no160.bredband.skanova.com) |
| 09:28.01 | *** join/#debian meaneye (~meaneye@IGLD-84-228-23-186.inter.net.il) |
| 09:28.05 | *** join/#debian infinitum (~infinitum@df-001f-1a30-0005.10ge.i6.sungai.nl) |
| 09:28.10 | *** join/#debian ZorroT (~various@c-98-193-82-210.hsd1.il.comcast.net) |
| 09:28.29 | *** join/#debian s8321414 (~s8321414@140.127.73.81) |
| 09:29.01 | ZorroT | how do you replace lilo with grub2 ? |
| 09:30.03 | *** join/#debian slvmchn (~slv@209-6-93-101.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com) |
| 09:30.07 | trix`G | first, I recommend getting in more and more arguments with lilo for awhile, until it begins to resent you. That will soften the blow when it is time to leave for greener pastures |
| 09:30.41 | *** join/#debian meinaeiner (~meinaeine@193.159.171.203) |
| 09:30.50 | trix`G | beyond that, you need to accept that grub2 will never fully "replace" good ol' lilo, and you'll have to accept that grub2 is special in its own way but will never be the same |
| 09:31.10 | *** join/#debian shiru (~shiru@p10024-ipngn100110osakachuo.osaka.ocn.ne.jp) |
| 09:31.14 | *** part/#debian wojtas (~wojtas@unaffiliated/wojtas) |
| 09:31.39 | ZorroT | that's tremendously helpful. |
| 09:31.51 | trix`G | and finally, keep in mind that if you regret it, it can be difficult to go back to lilo again, and even if you can break cleanly with grub2, lilo might never work the same |
| 09:32.45 | trix`G | https://wiki.debian.org/Grub |
| 09:32.52 | ZorroT | yes, i visited that. |
| 09:33.37 | trix`G | did it lead you here: https://wiki.debian.org/FromLiloToGrub |
| 09:33.53 | trix`G | because it led me there and I only looked at it for like, ten seconds. |
| 09:34.25 | ZorroT | yes, i've been through these steps. |
| 09:34.33 | ZorroT | thanks anyway, i appreciate your googling for me. |
| 09:34.47 | *** join/#debian pyface (~me@122.60.188.153) |
| 09:35.26 | trix`G | oh, i apologize for snark, what issue did you encounter with those steps? |
| 09:36.42 | *** join/#debian MarvelDigital (~Marvel@202.130.124.130) |
| 09:36.59 | *** join/#debian superlinux (~oracle@unaffiliated/superlinux) |
| 09:37.26 | superlinux | hi. I cannot move my mouse on a touchpad |
| 09:37.34 | *** part/#debian Bierdieb (~Weyand@p57A3C98D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 09:37.45 | ZorroT | grub installation. i was trying to find the error message |
| 09:37.49 | superlinux | it resonds to clicks though |
| 09:38.09 | ZorroT | in any case, it refused to install on initial os install, so i went with lilo and intended to revisit the issue. |
| 09:38.16 | trix`G | superlinux: you can't move your mouse at all? wow, how heavy is that thing? |
| 09:38.40 | superlinux | trix`G, I am serious! LOL! |
| 09:38.43 | trix`G | superlinux: wait sorry you mean you move the mouse but the cursor stays put? |
| 09:39.17 | trix`G | ZorroT: ah, sorry the error message is key information to help, otherwise I don't know why grub would not install and thus how to fix |
| 09:40.05 | superlinux | i mean it scrolls up and down and responds to clicks right and left, but the pointer is not moving . stuck in its place |
| 09:40.10 | amin | how to solve this? http://paste.debian.net/129202/ |
| 09:40.34 | trix`G | superlinux: hmm weird, is it ball mouse or laser/optical mouse? |
| 09:40.50 | superlinux | no! it's a touchpad |
| 09:40.56 | superlinux | a laptop's |
| 09:41.05 | *** part/#debian Slydder (~chuck@ip1f13dea6.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) |
| 09:41.18 | *** join/#debian teran (~teran@91.220.120.142) |
| 09:41.22 | *** join/#debian wnkz_ (~wnkz@ACaen-110-1-4-6.w80-15.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 09:41.45 | superlinux | and i know for sure that the corner area which should lock the mouse does not work |
| 09:41.53 | *** join/#debian ocbtec (~Instantbi@f053073188.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 09:41.59 | trix`G | amin: I would try to purge libjpeg-turbo-progs, then dist-upgrade |
| 09:42.18 | superlinux | all I did is run google chrome stable browser then it happened |
| 09:42.23 | trix`G | amin: but if purge tries to take other packages with it I would say no to prompt |
| 09:42.33 | trix`G | and ask for help again hehe |
| 09:42.49 | *** join/#debian chthon (~forcefsck@193.120.208.221) |
| 09:43.25 | trix`G | superlinux: ohh touch pad on a laptop. i hate those! |
| 09:43.43 | *** join/#debian Hacker01 (~Haxker01@188.241.140.120) |
| 09:43.53 | trix`G | superlinux: hm, try to cat /dev/mouse and then move finger on pad and see if gibberish appear in console |
| 09:43.55 | superlinux | me too! I am old fashioned too |
| 09:44.10 | superlinux | ok gods willing.. |
| 09:44.15 | *** join/#debian vincentor (~vincentor@218.107.55.254) |
| 09:45.00 | trix`G | might use /dev/input/mouse0 instead of /dev/mouse |
| 09:45.28 | superlinux | ok |
| 09:45.46 | superlinux | I understood the idea regarding cat /dev/blah |
| 09:46.02 | trix`G | :) |
| 09:46.34 | trix`G | hehe i'm no expert i'm just very good at breaking my computers and then having to fix |
| 09:46.56 | trix`G | after 15 years of this i have learned how to fix many problems |
| 09:47.12 | trix`G | or at least i think so until i break again and am like "WTF WHY WONT IT WORK" |
| 09:47.29 | *** join/#debian igi (~igi@218.107.55.253) |
| 09:47.36 | trix`G | is currently fixing broken network from trying to make a bridge and PEBCAK'ing it to death. |
| 09:47.57 | superlinux | yes I understand... I think it's easier I restart Xorg |
| 09:48.30 | trix`G | superlinux: if Xorg is the problem, that's why i asked if cat /dev/mouse produce output when you touch touchpad |
| 09:48.55 | *** join/#debian Bierdieb (~Weyand@p57A3C98D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 09:49.01 | *** join/#debian swatti (~mail@business-89-132-60-56.business.broadband.hu) |
| 09:49.08 | *** join/#debian rvdv (~richard@unaffiliated/slartibartfast) |
| 09:49.24 | trix`G | superlinux: if yes, then restart Xorg might work, but if /dev/mouse (or whatever dev is your mouse) does not receive input from mouse, then restart Xorg will not help |
| 09:49.25 | *** join/#debian joo-_ (~joo@93-162-73-190-static.dk.customer.tdc.net) |
| 09:49.40 | superlinux | I am saying it's easier I restart.. and my problem gets solved. i think there is a signal I don't know that unlocks the mouse |
| 09:49.46 | trix`G | (sorry for bad english) |
| 09:49.52 | ZorroT | HA! I WIN. |
| 09:49.58 | ZorroT | er, grub2 installed. |
| 09:50.05 | *** join/#debian salih-emin (~salih-emi@ubuntu/member/salih-emin) |
| 09:50.12 | superlinux | thanks for your time. I'll restart |
| 09:50.21 | trix`G | ZorroT: Does not Zorro always win? |
| 09:50.28 | trix`G | he super hero |
| 09:50.36 | trix`G | superlinux: no problem and goodluck |
| 09:50.43 | ZorroT | trix`G: that's how it goes in the movies. in real life, zorro stubs his toe and cuts himself shaving like everyone else. :-) |
| 09:51.56 | trix`G | ZorroT: haha yeah but never met real life zorro, only saw movies |
| 09:52.06 | trix`G | ZorroT: so what was issue with grub? |
| 09:52.13 | *** join/#debian anddam (~weechat@unaffiliated/anddam) |
| 09:52.20 | ZorroT | trix`G: i'm still not entirely sure |
| 09:52.25 | trix`G | did you yell at it and threaten violence until it obey? That always first thing I try |
| 09:52.28 | trix`G | never work for me though |
| 09:52.39 | ZorroT | trix`G: as i said, it failed from installer, and it failed from command line after initial install |
| 09:52.45 | anddam | http://www.webupd8.org/2014/03/how-to-install-oracle-java-8-in-debian.html what's the rationale for "echo [â¦] | tee /etc/apt/sources.list.d/myfoo.list" ? |
| 09:52.46 | trix`G | actually I take that back, one time it work for me and I have NO IDEA WHY |
| 09:52.49 | *** join/#debian infinitum (~infinitum@df-001f-1a30-0005.10ge.i6.sungai.nl) |
| 09:53.02 | anddam | I mean why using a pipe and tee rather than appending the stdout |
| 09:53.09 | ZorroT | but... after the sacrifice of a unicorn, the same command (from history) worked. |
| 09:53.16 | *** join/#debian suspicious_eel (~laite@193.184.6.118) |
| 09:53.18 | ZorroT | Dells are funny like that. |
| 09:53.20 | *** join/#debian boushi (~boushi@LDijon-156-66-25-59.w80-15.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 09:53.32 | trix`G | ZorroT: Oh, now that is strange. |
| 09:53.47 | trix`G | ZorroT: was the error "input/output"? |
| 09:53.53 | ZorroT | that's why i came here out of maddened desperation, muttering "it's broked. fix it pls." |
| 09:54.11 | ZorroT | i can't properly recall |
| 09:54.24 | ZorroT | i thought i piped it to a file for later reference |
| 09:54.37 | *** join/#debian garyle (~garyle@c-50-184-103-89.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 09:55.09 | trix`G | ah. may be worth scanning disk for problems... if installing grub failed with error, but the exact command worked a second time, may have a hardware fault on drive that interrupted grub writing to MBR |
| 09:55.20 | *** join/#debian ocbtec (~Instantbi@f053073188.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 09:55.25 | ZorroT | i thought so, too, except: |
| 09:55.29 | ZorroT | no fail. |
| 09:55.32 | ZorroT | just checked. |
| 09:55.43 | ZorroT | and checked before -- i've been running on lilo for about 2 months |
| 09:55.49 | trix`G | huh, well then chalk it up to Eris having her fun |
| 09:55.56 | ZorroT | kallisti. |
| 09:56.19 | trix`G | yeah she's a bitch sometimes |
| 09:56.27 | trix`G | oh sorry language =( |
| 09:56.29 | ZorroT | i'm thinking "solar flares." |
| 09:56.52 | trix`G | "random fluxuations in the EM field" |
| 09:57.24 | *** join/#debian likecolacola (~4354@124.Red-88-10-162.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 09:57.35 | ZorroT | i think mainly what this is telling me is, "you should maybe get a non-dell laptop." |
| 09:58.03 | trix`G | or a non-laptop dell |
| 09:58.07 | trix`G | or best, a non-dell non-laptop |
| 09:58.21 | ZorroT | i've yet to see the tablet that impressed me. |
| 09:58.32 | trix`G | if you are near wisconsin i can give you free computer |
| 09:58.33 | ChrisH | My backup failed last with these errors: http://paste.debian.net/129203/ How do I determine what dm-18-8 is? Must/Should be a LVM snapshot |
| 09:58.40 | trix`G | i have over two dozen of them |
| 09:59.04 | ZorroT | i lived in madtown until quite recently. |
| 09:59.32 | *** join/#debian jackbrown (~se@93-44-41-0.ip95.fastwebnet.it) |
| 10:00.01 | trix`G | hehe well if you drive to waukesha or pay for shipping, i'm serious, my poor home office is overflowing with dell omniplex 745 and 755 PC's. |
| 10:00.20 | ZorroT | them ain't worth shippin', sir. :-) |
| 10:00.21 | jelly | ChrisH: stupid way: look at ls -lL /dev/mapper, dm-18 is the device with minor number 18 |
| 10:00.32 | *** join/#debian D-Boy (~D-Boy@unaffiliated/cain) |
| 10:00.33 | trix`G | complete with monitors keyboards mice, four boxes of cables of every kind, six printers three of which have scanner/fax, and three PowerEdge servres |
| 10:00.37 | trix`G | servers* |
| 10:01.10 | trix`G | haha yeah they aren't gaming powerhouses sure, but thats why they are free |
| 10:01.14 | ZorroT | "so, you were at SWAP or? :-) |
| 10:01.45 | trix`G | no my brother's corporation upgraded all computers, i did the work so I was given old units |
| 10:01.49 | *** join/#debian ocbtec (~Instantbi@f053073188.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 10:01.51 | ZorroT | right next to my knee is a 745 |
| 10:01.52 | ZorroT | i like 'em. |
| 10:02.24 | trix`G | hehe 755's are better, the ones i have are Core2Duo and Core2VPro with 3GB RAM and a ATI Radion 2800Pro |
| 10:02.26 | *** join/#debian cyphase (~cyphase@c-50-161-89-130.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 10:02.26 | *** join/#debian cyphase (~cyphase@unaffiliated/cyphase) |
| 10:02.30 | trix`G | Radeon* |
| 10:02.33 | *** join/#debian hltn (~osf@189.58.110.185) |
| 10:02.53 | anddam | doesn't https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/winetricks show that winetricks is available on wheezy? |
| 10:02.56 | jelly | ChrisH: judging by line 5, there were too many changes on the source LV and not enough space allocated for lvm snapshot, so the snapshot went offline? |
| 10:03.01 | *** join/#debian huayra (~ruben@ubuntu/member/hubuntu) |
| 10:03.05 | SynrGy | ,v winetricks |
| 10:03.06 | judd | Package: winetricks on i386 -- wheezy/contrib: 0.0+20121030+svn918-1; jessie/contrib: 0.0+20141009+svn1208-1; sid/contrib: 0.0+20141009+svn1208-1 |
| 10:03.11 | SynrGy | anddam: in contrib |
| 10:03.15 | SynrGy | which you must enable |
| 10:03.16 | anddam | oh |
| 10:03.19 | anddam | right |
| 10:03.26 | likecolacola | trix`G, there might be an organization which you believe to be worth donating one of these computers or a couple of them xd |
| 10:03.47 | trix`G | oh I donated half already, the rest I give away to nerds and kids |
| 10:03.47 | jelly | ChrisH: if your script nuked the snapshot afterwards, it might be tricky to figure out which one it was |
| 10:04.12 | trix`G | likecolacola: I live in poor neighborhood so I also donate directly to people I know hehe |
| 10:04.15 | anddam | SynrGy: thanks |
| 10:04.29 | *** join/#debian bertrik (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) |
| 10:04.34 | SynrGy | np |
| 10:05.14 | likecolacola | trix`G, cool.. my friends are not rich, i like to help em :) |
| 10:07.06 | ChrisH | jelly: rechecked my script and it only has 1 snapshot, in my memeory there were several of them. As the script runs for years now I will givbe it another try next night and increase the size otherwise.... And of course the snap gets removed at the end :) |
| 10:07.41 | *** join/#debian mikul (~mikul@c83-248-199-82.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 10:08.34 | jelly | ChrisH: there's a set -e into my backup script, so if things went in an unexpected way it barfs immediately and I get leftover snapshots and mountpoints next morning |
| 10:08.35 | ChrisH | jelly: thats what cron did send me from the scipt: http://paste.debian.net/129205/ |
| 10:08.42 | *** join/#debian oish (~charlie@159.22.169.217.in-addr.arpa) |
| 10:09.02 | *** join/#debian L0aD1nG (~L0aD1nG@gateway/tor-sasl/l0ad1ng) |
| 10:09.23 | jelly | ChrisH: there's your answer, then |
| 10:09.29 | *** join/#debian m8 (~m8@unaffiliated/m8) |
| 10:10.02 | *** join/#debian anonnumberanon (~anonnumbe@unaffiliated/anonnumberanon) |
| 10:10.11 | jelly | heh, amanda |
| 10:10.28 | *** join/#debian KTL (~KTL2@77.109.101.121) |
| 10:10.34 | *** join/#debian heretech (~cali@nat-wlan2.rrze.uni-erlangen.de) |
| 10:10.48 | jelly | remembers amanda from 13 years back |
| 10:10.58 | *** join/#debian barnaba (barnaba@lipek.pl) |
| 10:11.12 | heretech | exit |
| 10:11.15 | SynrGy | likewise. using a desk model exabyte tape drive on the home network. can you say "overkill"? |
| 10:11.16 | ChrisH | still likes and uses amanda |
| 10:12.06 | ChrisH | Its not a small setup but no longer real tapes in use.... Virtual tape lib on disk(s) |
| 10:12.30 | jelly | but how do you backup the VTL?!? :-) |
| 10:12.36 | SynrGy | i've switched to backuppc on the home network (several machines, several users, easy web interface for restores are a plus). and backupninja (with rdiff-backup backend) at work |
| 10:13.08 | *** join/#debian ocbtec (~Instantbi@f053073188.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 10:13.18 | ChrisH | At work we use simple rsync onto ZFS snapshots... quick, fast and easy to use, administer, and monitor. |
| 10:13.42 | SynrGy | single machine, development system, the whole thing is tarred up and copied to a network drive that gets picked up by the regular tape backup cycle for the whole network. |
| 10:13.47 | ChrisH | Currently no backup of the VTL. Uploadbandwidth is limiting the options there. |
| 10:13.50 | *** join/#debian cisco987 (~francesco@88.98.68.173) |
| 10:13.56 | *** join/#debian cnodell (5cc682be@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.198.130.190) |
| 10:14.36 | *** join/#debian Simotek-Work- (~Simotek@opensuse/member/simotek) |
| 10:15.47 | *** join/#debian aboudreault (~aboudreau@osgeo/member/aboudreault) |
| 10:15.50 | *** join/#debian aNnel (~Nnel@host86-189-1-123.range86-189.btcentralplus.com) |
| 10:15.57 | cnodell | I currently have a base debian install with minimal X, xinit and a WM. I have added startx and exit to my .profile so that my WM will be started automatically when I login and I will automatically be logged out when i exit the WM. It works but I keep thinking that there is something I am missing, a reason why this setup might not be a good idea... |
| 10:16.01 | cnodell | Any ideas? |
| 10:16.25 | *** join/#debian teran (~teran@91.218.144.129) |
| 10:17.32 | *** join/#debian infinitum (~infinitum@df-001f-1a30-0005.10ge.i6.sungai.nl) |
| 10:18.29 | cnodell | Looks like everone in debian-land is off sleeping! |
| 10:18.55 | bogus- | ofcourse |
| 10:19.15 | *** join/#debian wnkz (~wnkz@ACaen-110-1-4-6.w80-15.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 10:19.52 | SynrGy | or your expectations for how often people check and respond to questions needs adjustment |
| 10:19.58 | *** join/#debian delaytime0 (~delaytime@ip-176-52-204-18.static.reverse.dsi.net) |
| 10:19.58 | xiqy | cnodell: 1. Your question is incredibly vague. 2. This is IRC; you can't expect to receive an answer right away. |
| 10:20.05 | SynrGy | and that |
| 10:20.38 | cnodell | No problems! |
| 10:20.53 | *** part/#debian zorael (~sunspire@2001:41d0:a:b13::1) |
| 10:20.54 | cnodell | What is vauge? I will provide all the deail I can! |
| 10:21.21 | xiqy | For starters, why do you suspect there to be a problem with your setup? |
| 10:21.29 | SynrGy | any reason it might not be a good idea? sure. a *dm will typically set up a desktop session in which components of the desktop can interoperate ... if you have a bare WM, that integration is gone |
| 10:21.46 | SynrGy | if you can live without the missing functionality, fine ... |
| 10:22.22 | SynrGy | but if you start struggling with things you think ought to work and suspect may be enhancements only present in a desktop sesison, you might want to rethink your "minimal" setup |
| 10:22.29 | SynrGy | session* |
| 10:22.48 | cnodell | Well, since I added "start x" to my .profile, I expect that the script will continue to run until I log off and I was wondering if this would be problematic... I am not an expert here and thought you guys would know better... |
| 10:24.11 | *** join/#debian cloudowind (~floyd@CPE-110-149-48-144.vwl9.win.bigpond.net.au) |
| 10:24.28 | SynrGy | what kind of problem do you anticipate? no appreciable resources are consumed by a shell script that is doing nothing but running something else (Xorg) |
| 10:25.03 | cnodell | OK. Is there any god documentation describing desktop sessions and how their components inter operate? |
| 10:25.24 | SynrGy | but if you want to microoptimize the hell out of it, dispense with startx and write a custom script that sets up the call to Xorg, and then does an 'exec' to pass control to it |
| 10:25.55 | cnodell | I do not know. I just had this feeling that, despite things seeming to work fine, I was commiting a major no-no. It is probably my lack of knowldge prompting this feeling.\ |
| 10:25.55 | SynrGy | this is probably a tremendous waste of your effort |
| 10:26.04 | jelly | cnodell: also, now you have no way to log in at the console as that user, and depending on your login shell, it might try to start X even if you login some other way (eg. via ssh) |
| 10:26.19 | SynrGy | there's that |
| 10:26.27 | *** join/#debian ocbtec (~Instantbi@f053073188.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 10:26.41 | SynrGy | if you've tested to make sure it's only running from a tty, and there's no other process running, it would improve it |
| 10:26.46 | jelly | or on every opening of a terminal emulator |
| 10:26.56 | SynrGy | sounds like you might want 'nodm' instead. |
| 10:27.17 | SynrGy | though that dispenses with the login altogether ... |
| 10:27.21 | SynrGy | which may not be what you want |
| 10:27.23 | jelly | I thought he already had nodm |
| 10:27.45 | SynrGy | ah. i don't have the background |
| 10:27.54 | *** join/#debian rvdv (~richard@unaffiliated/slartibartfast) |
| 10:28.23 | jelly | me neither, but if you're logging in at the console and starting X from .profile, it sure sounds like there's no DM in play |
| 10:28.30 | cnodell | jelly: this is the kind of thing I figured I might be overlooking. I verified that opening non-login shells did not try ans startx and i also read that ssh logind do not always source .provile but had not dug very far into that side yet. |
| 10:28.57 | *** join/#debian _MoneY_ (~Thunderbi@213.20.83.86) |
| 10:29.15 | *** join/#debian igi_ (~igi@218.107.55.253) |
| 10:29.17 | *** join/#debian BWMerlin (~Thunderbi@142.45.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) |
| 10:29.17 | jelly | cnodell: it depends on the actual shell. bash is kind of special there, reading .bash_profile or .bashrc or ignoring .profile (details in the manual) |
| 10:29.17 | cnodell | I definatly want the login |
| 10:29.31 | SynrGy | jelly: we're talking about the same thing? 'nodm' is a package ... |
| 10:29.46 | cnodell | right, ignoring .profile but only if .bash_profile is present right? |
| 10:29.57 | jelly | SynrGy: oh! I thought you were talking about the factoid |
| 10:30.12 | cnodell | Yeah. I don't like DMs much |
| 10:30.22 | jelly | !nodm |
| 10:30.22 | dpkg | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the DM package(s) with "aptitude remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm gdm3 pdm slim". "echo false >/etc/X11/default-display-manager" will also disable the DM, or just hit ctrl-alt-fN to get to a console. nodm is the name of a minimal/automatic display manager (http://www.enricozini.org/sw/nodm/). |
| 10:30.31 | jelly | SynrGy: nodm doesn't say there's nodm |
| 10:30.42 | SynrGy | are you blind? :) |
| 10:30.44 | jelly | err, it does now |
| 10:30.58 | _MoneY_ | Hello. I've installed debian with some packages on my pc and want to create a Image of this workingstation. Since is: creating a PXE Bootable image. |
| 10:31.01 | *** join/#debian milobit (~milobit@unaffiliated/milobit) |
| 10:31.04 | *** join/#debian nmschulte (~nmschulte@unaffiliated/reklipz) |
| 10:31.04 | jelly | don't expect me to READ |
| 10:31.06 | SynrGy | hehe |
| 10:31.08 | _MoneY_ | how to create this image? |
| 10:31.13 | cnodell | i will look into nodm |
| 10:31.29 | *** join/#debian pmart (6df1a2ca@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.241.162.202) |
| 10:31.37 | SynrGy | cnodell: as per my earlier comment, this automatically logs in, which you stated you don't want |
| 10:31.39 | *** join/#debian phuh (~phuh@cp66-203-194-42.cp.telus.net) |
| 10:32.13 | *** join/#debian banjo_ (~banjo@aftr-37-24-156-24.unity-media.net) |
| 10:32.22 | *** join/#debian ocbtec (~Instantbi@f053073188.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 10:32.29 | L0aD1nG | gnome-shell stacks again -_- "gnome-shell --replace" doesn't help most of the times. |
| 10:32.42 | cnodell | Ahhh... I read that then I saw the "! nodm" and was not sure if you meant the "!" to mean "not" or to draw attention to nodm as a option again. |
| 10:33.05 | SynrGy | cnodell: ! is the trigger character for dpkg bot factoids |
| 10:33.06 | *** join/#debian iomari (~iomari@196.46.246.152) |
| 10:33.28 | *** join/#debian joo-_ (~joo@93-162-73-190-static.dk.customer.tdc.net) |
| 10:33.28 | cnodell | OK. Didn't know that at all! |
| 10:33.29 | *** join/#debian banjo (~banjo@aftr-37-24-156-24.unity-media.net) |
| 10:33.50 | SynrGy | but if you want to ask the bot something for private use, please message the bot instead, e.g. /msg dpkg nodm |
| 10:34.06 | SynrGy | we use the trigger when everyone involved in the conversation needs to know |
| 10:34.49 | *** join/#debian ocbtec (~Instantbi@f053073188.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 10:35.02 | *** join/#debian netkat (~me@80.79.126.176) |
| 10:35.05 | SynrGy | !tell cnodell about dkpgbot |
| 10:35.08 | SynrGy | grr |
| 10:35.14 | SynrGy | !tell cnodell about dpkgbot |
| 10:35.47 | cnodell | SynrGy: You mentioned earlier I could consider writing a custom script that sets up the call to Xorg do you know of any examples/documentation I can explore on the topic? |
| 10:35.55 | SynrGy | don't |
| 10:36.10 | cnodell | OK. I'll start googling! |
| 10:36.13 | *** join/#debian gr33n7007h (~gr33n7007@90.203.202.219) |
| 10:36.13 | *** join/#debian gr33n7007h (~gr33n7007@unaffiliated/gr33n7007h) |
| 10:36.25 | SynrGy | this was based on the misunderstanding that what you were driving at is "make it better than having startx running all the time" |
| 10:36.40 | SynrGy | as i stated before, this is a waste of your time |
| 10:36.57 | SynrGy | as startx isn't "running" with any sort of resource consumption at all |
| 10:37.10 | *** join/#debian boushi_ (~boushi@LDijon-156-66-25-59.w80-15.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 10:37.13 | SynrGy | near zero memory consumption and absolutely zero CPU usage |
| 10:37.49 | L0aD1nG | gnome-shell crashes but everything except the some shell interaction works perfect... |
| 10:37.52 | L0aD1nG | so weird |
| 10:38.04 | *** join/#debian boushi (~boushi@LDijon-156-66-25-59.w80-15.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 10:38.43 | *** join/#debian KBme (~r00t@jon13-1-82-228-18-48.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 10:38.48 | cnodell | Got it. It looks like my main downside is what jenny pointed out: no way to login shell as that user and potential issues when loggin in via SSH. |
| 10:39.05 | cnodell | Thanks for the help! |
| 10:39.12 | cloudowind | KBme: why are you root |
| 10:39.18 | cnodell | jelly, not jenny |
| 10:39.47 | *** join/#debian NixMD (~irssi@unaffiliated/timmyt) |
| 10:39.57 | *** part/#debian cnodell (5cc682be@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.198.130.190) |
| 10:40.22 | KBme | i am r00t! but funny you ask |
| 10:40.46 | *** join/#debian Ex-Opesa (~Ex-Opesa@unaffiliated/ex-opesa) |
| 10:40.47 | cloudowind | youre leaf |
| 10:41.02 | SynrGy | switches cloudowind's font to a better one that distinguishes 0 from O |
| 10:41.09 | cloudowind | thanks |
| 10:41.11 | jelly | 0.O |
| 10:41.40 | *** join/#debian JonJ (~jon@host-37-191-209-128.lynet.no) |
| 10:41.51 | *** join/#debian benf (benf2004@c-98-223-78-210.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 10:41.51 | *** join/#debian benf (benf2004@unaffiliated/benf2004) |
| 10:42.28 | *** part/#debian anddam (~weechat@unaffiliated/anddam) |
| 10:43.11 | *** join/#debian Vanildo_Souto (~quassel@189.57.191.90) |
| 10:44.07 | L0aD1nG | is anyone using gnome 3 here -.- ? |
| 10:44.56 | *** join/#debian oish_ (~charlie@81.130.206.144) |
| 10:47.02 | *** join/#debian SignorD (~D@host86-171-dynamic.16-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 10:47.19 | *** join/#debian ocbtec (~Instantbi@f053073188.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 10:49.24 | *** join/#debian Abhijit (~Abhijit@unaffiliated/abhijit) |
| 10:49.41 | *** join/#debian _krux (~richard@ool-4578ae7c.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 10:50.33 | *** join/#debian secrgb (~secrgb@28.96.190.90.sta.estpak.ee) |
| 10:51.58 | *** join/#debian NixMD (~irssi@unaffiliated/timmyt) |
| 10:52.26 | *** join/#debian Greylocks (~Greylocks@unaffiliated/greylocks) |
| 10:52.27 | *** join/#debian wolrah (~wolrah@24.239.210.140) |
| 10:52.46 | *** join/#debian djbkd (~djbkd@173-228-104-67.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com) |
| 10:54.47 | *** join/#debian Zzeiss (~wsy@dsl092-078-219.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 10:55.16 | *** join/#debian mirco (~mirco@ip-176-198-211-199.hsi05.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 10:56.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1577] by debhelper |
| 10:56.31 | *** join/#debian jrgill (~jrgill@unaffiliated/jrgill) |
| 10:58.20 | *** join/#debian jetho (~jens@191.242.128.222) |
| 10:59.00 | *** join/#debian delaytime0 (~delaytime@ip-176-52-204-18.static.reverse.dsi.net) |
| 10:59.17 | *** join/#debian phuh (~phuh@cp66-203-194-42.cp.telus.net) |
| 11:01.55 | *** join/#debian cliffer (~briefchai@xdsl-87-78-3-93.netcologne.de) |
| 11:02.24 | *** join/#debian infinitum (~infinitum@df-001f-1a30-0005.10ge.i6.sungai.nl) |
| 11:02.49 | *** join/#debian frostschutz (~frostschu@pD9E50A04.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:03.59 | *** join/#debian ocbtec (~Instantbi@f053073188.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 11:05.30 | *** join/#debian _djbkd (~djbkd@26.sub-70-197-1.myvzw.com) |
| 11:05.34 | *** join/#debian dpkg (~dpkg@unaffiliated/dpkg) |
| 11:07.53 | *** join/#debian doev (~doev@p4FE13470.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:08.00 | *** join/#debian cloudowind (~floyd@CPE-110-149-48-144.vwl9.win.bigpond.net.au) |
| 11:08.15 | *** join/#debian autochthon (~autochtho@0170300545.0.fullrate.dk) |
| 11:08.17 | *** join/#debian ocbtec (~Instantbi@f053073188.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 11:08.53 | xiqy | L0aD1nG: Yes. |
| 11:09.16 | *** join/#debian narbeh (~narbeh@94.101.189.1) |
| 11:09.57 | *** join/#debian aNnel (~Nnel@host86-189-1-123.range86-189.btcentralplus.com) |
| 11:10.21 | xiqy | L0aD1nG: Did you have a specific problem? |
| 11:11.02 | *** join/#debian dselect (~dselect@unaffiliated/themill/bot/dselect) |
| 11:11.37 | *** join/#debian bps (~bps@heghbat.us) |
| 11:13.05 | *** join/#debian bal1 (~Thunderbi@213.233.85.125) |
| 11:13.17 | *** join/#debian enkrypt (~enkrypt@2a02:1811:3285:2a00:29c:2ff:feaa:618c) |
| 11:13.39 | *** join/#debian jrgill (~jrgill@unaffiliated/jrgill) |
| 11:14.27 | *** join/#debian GRMrGecko (~GRMrGecko@user-24-96-62-208.knology.net) |
| 11:16.50 | GRMrGecko | Hello, I'm running debian 6.0.10 with static IP addresses assigned and when I disconnect and re-connect the ethernet cables, the machine doesn't seem to re-connect. Here is my config https://p.gecko.im/sq |
| 11:20.27 | *** join/#debian anonnumberanon (~anonnumbe@unaffiliated/anonnumberanon) |
| 11:22.22 | *** join/#debian Asiajey (~Asiajey@27.72.35.247) |
| 11:22.22 | *** join/#debian Asiajey (~Asiajey@unaffiliated/asiajey) |
| 11:22.58 | *** join/#debian bal (~Thunderbi@2a02:6e00:1:3:e818:c8a0:e2e:c1f9) |
| 11:24.11 | *** join/#debian csheldon_ (~Corey84@unaffiliated/corey84) |
| 11:24.42 | *** join/#debian bal (~Thunderbi@2a02:6e00:1:3:e818:c8a0:e2e:c1f9) |
| 11:24.44 | *** join/#debian niluje (~niluje@212-83-162-172.rev.poneytelecom.eu) |
| 11:25.59 | *** join/#debian corey84- (~Corey84@unaffiliated/corey84) |
| 11:26.41 | *** join/#debian infinitum (~infinitum@df-001f-1a30-0005.10ge.i6.sungai.nl) |
| 11:28.43 | ChrisH | GRMrGecko: can you show us what is in dmesg during the disconnect/reconnect? |
| 11:29.26 | *** join/#debian Alula (~filly@gateway/tor-sasl/suhosin) |
| 11:29.28 | *** join/#debian Sthebig (Sthebig@walle.beyondirc.net) |
| 11:29.28 | *** join/#debian Sthebig (Sthebig@unaffiliated/sthebig) |
| 11:29.32 | GRMrGecko | ChrisH: Give me a moment, have to walk through the rain to the other building. |
| 11:29.43 | *** join/#debian Lindrian (~Lindrian@198.52.199.8) |
| 11:30.19 | ChrisH | GRMrGecko: can't you switch off/on the switch port? |
| 11:30.21 | *** join/#debian patterson (~patterson@c-50-174-179-173.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 11:30.41 | GRMrGecko | Nah, I work at a small business so we use cheap stuff |
| 11:32.09 | *** join/#debian calisto (~Icedove@unaffiliated/calisto) |
| 11:32.23 | *** join/#debian bluenemo (~bluenemo@unaffiliated/bluenemo) |
| 11:33.09 | GRMrGecko | ChrisH: https://p.gecko.im/sr |
| 11:33.33 | GRMrGecko | I'm now unable to ping the server by the internal IP |
| 11:34.50 | GRMrGecko | looks like server does receive the packet through but it's sending the response through the wrong interface |
| 11:34.52 | *** join/#debian lmpker (~lmpker@221.222.85.241) |
| 11:34.52 | *** join/#debian huza (~My@74.82.1.82) |
| 11:35.01 | GRMrGecko | ChrisH: https://p.gecko.im/ss |
| 11:35.40 | *** join/#debian Slashman (~Slash@LCaen-156-55-19-154.w80-11.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 11:36.37 | *** join/#debian phre4k (~phre4k@HSI-KBW-46-237-208-199.hsi.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 11:37.19 | GRMrGecko | ChrisH: https://p.gecko.im/si so maybe it's something to do with how the routing table gets filled after re-connection? |
| 11:38.31 | GRMrGecko | after I restart the networking it works again and this is the routing table https://p.gecko.im/sa |
| 11:39.03 | *** part/#debian niluje (~niluje@212-83-162-172.rev.poneytelecom.eu) |
| 11:39.09 | ChrisH | GRMrGecko: which interface did you disconect? eth0 or eth1 ? |
| 11:39.16 | GRMrGecko | eth0 |
| 11:39.19 | *** join/#debian moveax3 (~moveax3@46.165.12.227) |
| 11:41.23 | GRMrGecko | I can probably write a perl script for when the interface goes down. |
| 11:41.36 | GRMrGecko | but would be better if I found out how to fix it properly |
| 11:41.39 | *** join/#debian Somefellow (~Somefello@2407:500:100::d68d:8d08) |
| 11:42.06 | GRMrGecko | ChrisH: what do you think? Just quickly write a perl script? |
| 11:42.21 | ChrisH | there you have a post-up line adding the routing. I am currently unsure which process does the ifup process on reconnect.... that changed the past years like hotplugd, ifplugd, udev :) |
| 11:42.50 | ChrisH | I would write a bash script and put it into cron until I have a smarter way to handle it :) |
| 11:43.07 | GRMrGecko | ok |
| 11:43.37 | GRMrGecko | but why do a cronjob if there is a location with scripts that run when the interface comes up? |
| 11:43.51 | GRMrGecko | if-up.d |
| 11:45.53 | ChrisH | That leads to me previous "unsure"... Which daemon does the ifup and does that daemon onsure the use of if-up.d/ stuff? |
| 11:46.09 | GRMrGecko | I'll write the script and test it |
| 11:47.03 | *** join/#debian knightshade (~knightsha@p548CF047.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:47.18 | *** join/#debian iomari_ (~iomari@41.220.68.62) |
| 11:49.24 | *** join/#debian koderok (~koderok@223.227.53.180) |
| 11:49.29 | *** join/#debian DaisyTheCow (~andy@host86-186-184-126.range86-186.btcentralplus.com) |
| 11:49.44 | *** join/#debian engblom (~user@unaffiliated/engblom) |
| 11:50.31 | *** join/#debian AlexPortable (uid7568@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gjgxyfdvolguxniv) |
| 11:51.12 | engblom | On a Dell laptop the "Mute" key on the keyboard works perfectly when using only plain Alsa. It toggles between mute and unmute each time it is pressed. Once you install pulseaudio it will only mute and the only way to unmute is to use pavucontrol. |
| 11:51.23 | *** join/#debian calisto (~Icedove@unaffiliated/calisto) |
| 11:51.24 | *** join/#debian infinitum (~infinitum@df-001f-1a30-0005.10ge.i6.sungai.nl) |
| 11:51.34 | engblom | How do find what script the "Mute" key is triggering, so I could correct this problem? |
| 11:52.06 | *** join/#debian rgr (~user@e177120114.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 11:52.17 | *** join/#debian brianblaze420 (~brianblaz@unaffiliated/brianblaze) |
| 11:52.56 | *** join/#debian nikio_ (K@wlan-145-94-185-197.wlan.tudelft.nl) |
| 11:55.26 | *** join/#debian schu-r (~Thunderbi@82-149-107-2.wco.wellcom.at) |
| 11:56.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1583] by debhelper |
| 11:56.03 | *** join/#debian CeBe (~CeBe@port-92-206-123-83.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 11:56.43 | *** join/#debian EntropyArchive (~Thunderbi@198.86.76.199) |
| 11:59.01 | *** join/#debian cbsw (~Thunderbi@221.218.203.127) |
| 11:59.19 | *** join/#debian phuh (~phuh@cp66-203-194-42.cp.telus.net) |
| 11:59.35 | *** join/#debian viccuad (~vic@unaffiliated/viccuad) |
| 12:00.31 | *** join/#debian trifolio6 (~h@62.43.62.203.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 12:00.31 | GRMrGecko | ChrisH: My script seems to fix it |
| 12:00.38 | GRMrGecko | I'll see what happens when I do the other cable now |
| 12:02.05 | *** join/#debian ndb (~vagrant@187.112.75.167) |
| 12:02.11 | *** join/#debian koderok (~koderok@223.227.98.179) |
| 12:02.18 | ndb | hi, How can I setup on boot the snd-dummy sound modules |
| 12:02.24 | ndb | /etc/modules? |
| 12:02.41 | *** join/#debian wonderworld (~ww@ip-62-143-157-238.hsi01.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 12:03.03 | *** join/#debian sdfvsfgvsdf (~bauasdgwg@37.254.225.151) |
| 12:04.07 | *** join/#debian aNnel (~Nnel@host86-189-1-123.range86-189.btcentralplus.com) |
| 12:04.53 | ChrisH | GRMrGecko: cool |
| 12:05.07 | *** join/#debian Lindrian (~Lindrian@unaffiliated/lindrian) |
| 12:05.20 | *** join/#debian brian-mac (~textual@5.149.168.66) |
| 12:05.26 | *** join/#debian Paradisee (~quassel@2.239.28.120) |
| 12:05.59 | GRMrGecko | My script incase your interested https://p.gecko.im/s4 |
| 12:06.00 | *** join/#debian moveax3 (~moveax3@109.236.91.117) |
| 12:06.06 | *** join/#debian Pikudoz (~opera@190.222.96.35) |
| 12:06.28 | *** join/#debian calisto (~Icedove@unaffiliated/calisto) |
| 12:06.38 | GRMrGecko | routing table seems to be a key indicator something is wrong |
| 12:07.01 | *** join/#debian aksnowman (~root@50-239-137-216.mtaonline.net) |
| 12:07.34 | *** join/#debian tensorpudding (~tensorpud@2602:306:32b2:51a0::46) |
| 12:08.32 | *** join/#debian rustyraptor (~rustyrapt@5.108.11.126) |
| 12:08.34 | cisco987 | hey |
| 12:08.47 | cisco987 | is there any way to make skype work without pulse audio? |
| 12:08.51 | cisco987 | is there any way to make skype work without pulseaudio? |
| 12:08.58 | *** join/#debian Abhijit (~Abhijit@unaffiliated/abhijit) |
| 12:09.09 | GRMrGecko | ChrisH: thanks for trying to help, at least I got a solution that works for us. |
| 12:09.23 | *** join/#debian Brigo (~Brigo@127.Red-88-21-119.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 12:09.34 | *** join/#debian nikio__ (K@wlan-145-94-185-197.wlan.tudelft.nl) |
| 12:09.34 | *** join/#debian swordsmanz (~swordsman@unaffiliated/swordsmanz) |
| 12:19.04 | *** join/#debian beejee (~beejee@office.kangaroot.net) |
| 12:19.12 | *** join/#debian diniwed (~gavron@pool-74-108-225-30.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) |
| 12:19.34 | *** join/#debian s8321414 (~s8321414@140.127.73.81) |
| 12:19.50 | *** join/#debian corey84- (~Corey84@unaffiliated/corey84) |
| 12:21.25 | *** join/#debian ruukasu (~ruukasu@unaffiliated/ruukasu) |
| 12:21.54 | *** join/#debian ee2455 (~ee2455@unaffiliated/ee2455) |
| 12:21.57 | *** join/#debian kooldavi (~kooldavi@sign-4d094511.pool.mediaways.net) |
| 12:24.39 | *** join/#debian corey84- (~Corey84@unaffiliated/corey84) |
| 12:25.18 | *** join/#debian cnodell (5cc682be@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.198.130.190) |
| 12:26.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1590] by debhelper |
| 12:26.52 | cnodell | Is there an apt-get install option that will cause the installed packages specified on the command line to be marked as "automatic" instead of "manual"? I could not find mention of something like this on the debian wiki or in the apt-get man page... |
| 12:27.14 | *** join/#debian doev (~doev@p4FE13470.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 12:27.29 | xiqy | cnodell: apt-mark auto <package> |
| 12:28.18 | *** join/#debian corey84- (~Corey84@unaffiliated/corey84) |
| 12:28.40 | *** join/#debian Frosh (uid4206@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rgsqvkaxnzzsrwvn) |
| 12:29.43 | cnodell | xiqy: So, just install lik normal, than run apt-mark? never knew apt-mark even existed! I was hoping for something like "apt-get install --mark-as-auto package1 package2" but this will work just fine! |
| 12:29.47 | cnodell | Thanks! |
| 12:30.01 | *** join/#debian fbsd (~hjkl@a89-153-123-253.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 12:30.03 | *** join/#debian yeticry (~yeticry@223.240.110.47) |
| 12:30.29 | *** join/#debian teddybeermaniac (~teddybeer@178.217.186.211) |
| 12:30.54 | *** join/#debian K4k (~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k) |
| 12:31.18 | *** join/#debian corey84- (~Corey84@unaffiliated/corey84) |
| 12:31.22 | *** part/#debian GRMrGecko (~GRMrGecko@user-24-96-62-208.knology.net) |
| 12:31.23 | *** part/#debian cnodell (5cc682be@gateway/web/freenode/ip.92.198.130.190) |
| 12:31.30 | *** join/#debian mjt (~mjt@isrv.corpit.ru) |
| 12:31.35 | *** part/#debian mjt (~mjt@isrv.corpit.ru) |
| 12:32.28 | *** join/#debian exhibitor (~j7@unaffiliated/jose1974) |
| 12:32.49 | *** join/#debian vila (~vila@lec67-4-82-230-53-244.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 12:33.14 | *** join/#debian lostcoffee (~lostcoffe@gateway/tor-sasl/lostcoffee) |
| 12:33.38 | *** part/#debian Pikudoz (~opera@190.222.96.35) |
| 12:34.26 | *** join/#debian iomari (~iomari@41.220.69.199) |
| 12:34.27 | *** join/#debian Pikudoz (~opera@190.222.96.35) |
| 12:34.30 | *** join/#debian ojaito1 (~madneap@c-71-235-195-200.hsd1.ct.comcast.net) |
| 12:36.19 | *** join/#debian infinitum (~infinitum@df-001f-1a30-0005.10ge.i6.sungai.nl) |
| 12:38.12 | *** join/#debian moveax3_ (~moveax3@46.165.12.227) |
| 12:38.40 | *** join/#debian K4k_ (~K4k@frontend.gtri.gatech.edu) |
| 12:38.59 | *** join/#debian MadHatter42 (~tuwid@79.171.53.122) |
| 12:39.50 | *** join/#debian anon3859 (~jc@AMontpellier-654-1-73-254.w90-0.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 12:40.07 | *** join/#debian aatwood (~quassel@2602:306:c415:3fd0:71bf:d0aa:4d6d:a0ee) |
| 12:41.18 | *** join/#debian K4k (~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k) |
| 12:43.09 | *** join/#debian brightkill (~brightkil@95.153.188.107) |
| 12:43.33 | *** join/#debian huza (~My@74.82.1.82) |
| 12:43.55 | *** join/#debian karimb (kboumedhel@nat/redhat/x-qzrmlqsdnjoznnic) |
| 12:44.50 | *** join/#debian SignorD (~D@host86-171-dynamic.16-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 12:45.12 | ws2k3 | hello, if i want to add i386 to my system do i only need to do dpkg --add-architecture i386 or do i also need to install ia32-libs? |
| 12:45.53 | *** join/#debian kooldavi (~kooldavi@sign-4d094511.pool.mediaways.net) |
| 12:46.49 | *** join/#debian sdfvsfgvsdf (~bauasdgwg@37.254.225.151) |
| 12:47.07 | xiqy | ia32-libs is unnessecary in wheezy and later versions of debian. |
| 12:47.17 | *** join/#debian osfe (~osfe@pc-91048.lal.in2p3.fr) |
| 12:47.36 | ws2k3 | okay but then how should i add i388 ? cause i did the dpkg --add but i386 is not working yet |
| 12:47.49 | xiqy | what is not working? |
| 12:48.22 | ws2k3 | i have a i386 executable but when i try to run it it says no such file or directory |
| 12:48.39 | *** join/#debian iomari (~iomari@41.206.12.57) |
| 12:49.21 | *** join/#debian ioio (~ioio@37-1-162-187.ip.skylogicnet.com) |
| 12:49.49 | *** join/#debian jbonjean (~root@unaffiliated/jbonjean) |
| 12:50.01 | *** join/#debian Timmy (~irssi@unaffiliated/timmyt) |
| 12:50.07 | *** join/#debian Caterpillar (~Caterpill@unaffiliated/caterpillar) |
| 12:50.23 | abrotman | ws2k3: this is well documented in the wiki |
| 12:50.29 | ws2k3 | in the past i solved that doing apt-get install ia32-libs |
| 12:50.32 | Caterpillar | In Debian, what is the Apache's equivalent file for /etc/httpd/conf.d/ssl.conf ? |
| 12:50.56 | abrotman | Caterpillar: /etc/apache/conf.d/ssl.conf ? |
| 12:51.02 | abrotman | looks |
| 12:51.06 | *** join/#debian Eleganza (~Eleganza@gateway/tor-sasl/eleganza) |
| 12:51.08 | Caterpillar | abrotman: no |
| 12:51.18 | *** join/#debian harobed (~harobed@ANancy-652-1-282-193.w90-39.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 12:51.23 | *** join/#debian cisco987 (~francesco@88.98.68.173) |
| 12:51.26 | abrotman | Caterpillar: /etc/apache2/mods-available/ssl.conf |
| 12:51.30 | xiqy | ws2k3: Hav you run apt-get update? |
| 12:51.34 | Caterpillar | abrotman: thx |
| 12:52.01 | thoonai | heyho, any idea, why gpg is not interested in the --passphrase flag? |
| 12:52.18 | ws2k3 | pretty sure i did but let me do it again |
| 12:52.56 | *** join/#debian VelvetElvis (~vlvtelvis@dsl017-124-002.bna1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 12:53.25 | thoonai | everytime I call --passphrase or --passphrase-file, a gtk-window pops open and ask me for the credentials ... |
| 12:54.04 | *** join/#debian midsandhighs (~textual@natpool.gwp.corp.flightaware.com) |
| 12:55.42 | *** join/#debian munnis (~munnis@185.32.9.250) |
| 12:55.50 | *** join/#debian Arieh (sbnc@srver.nl) |
| 12:55.57 | munnis | this is driving me insane, I cannot install unrar because it is not available though referring to another package |
| 12:56.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1600] by debhelper |
| 12:56.00 | munnis | I tried to add repo's same shit |
| 12:56.01 | *** join/#debian tcpman (~yeah@31-209-235-193.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is) |
| 12:56.39 | *** join/#debian nikio_ (K@wlan-145-94-185-197.wlan.tudelft.nl) |
| 12:56.56 | munnis | what do I do? I tried to download the binaries and do ./unrar |
| 12:57.00 | munnis | says command not found |
| 12:57.10 | munnis | or no such file or directory |
| 12:57.11 | trewas | munnis: it is in non-free |
| 12:57.17 | munnis | and I added that repo |
| 12:57.23 | thoonai | munnis: try "whereis unrar" please |
| 12:57.32 | munnis | unrar. |
| 12:57.37 | munnis | unrar: is the output |
| 12:57.51 | thoonai | munnis: ok, just a guess, sorry :/ |
| 12:57.53 | rgr | thoonai: because you have use-agent in your config most probably. |
| 12:57.54 | *** join/#debian kostitas (~kostas@adsl-86.37.6.172.tellas.gr) |
| 12:57.58 | munnis | I added the following to my sources |
| 12:57.59 | munnis | deb ftp://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ lenny non-free |
| 12:58.00 | munnis | deb http://security.debian.org/ lenny/updates non-free |
| 12:58.00 | munnis | deb http://volatile.debian.org/debian-volatile lenny/volatile non-free' >> /etc/apt/sources.list.d/lenny.non-free.list |
| 12:58.00 | *** kick/#debian [munnis!~debhelper@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (flood. Please use http://paste.debian.net instead.) |
| 12:58.07 | *** join/#debian sdfvsfgvsdf (~bauasdgwg@37.254.225.151) |
| 12:58.09 | *** join/#debian munnis (~munnis@185.32.9.250) |
| 12:58.12 | munnis | yeah, as you can see |
| 12:58.13 | *** join/#debian edoardo (~edoardo@host5-194-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 12:58.19 | *** join/#debian aNnel (~Nnel@host86-189-1-123.range86-189.btcentralplus.com) |
| 12:58.20 | thoonai | rgr: this is for the gpg, right? thanks :) |
| 12:58.32 | biel_ | hi. i have a problem |
| 12:58.35 | biel_ | root@debian:~# ping google.com |
| 12:58.35 | biel_ | ping: unknown host google.com |
| 12:58.57 | biel_ | but dns works fine on my windows pc. How to fix it? |
| 12:59.08 | *** join/#debian juxan (~juxan@190.200.48.199) |
| 12:59.11 | munnis | never had such enormous issues installing a god damn archive package |
| 12:59.11 | thoonai | biel_: graphical? network-manager? |
| 12:59.24 | heurist` | !enter |
| 12:59.24 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 12:59.27 | xiqy | ws2k3: If 'apt-get update' doesn't help, try running 'ldd <your excecutable>' to see if you're missing any libraries. |
| 12:59.35 | biel_ | nope, ssh |
| 12:59.44 | rgr | thoonai: yes |
| 12:59.53 | heurist` | munnis: is unrar available in lenny? are the lenny repos still at those sites? |
| 13:00.34 | thoonai | biel_: first: are you running any network manager? wicd, network-manager or anythin else? |
| 13:00.44 | VelvetElvis | you need more than non-free in your sources.list |
| 13:00.47 | biel_ | dont know, i bet i dont |
| 13:00.47 | *** join/#debian fstd (~fstd@unaffiliated/fisted) |
| 13:00.53 | *** join/#debian Kar- (~aaron@rrcs-96-10-101-202.se.biz.rr.com) |
| 13:01.03 | *** join/#debian infinitum (~infinitum@df-001f-1a30-0005.10ge.i6.sungai.nl) |
| 13:01.07 | *** join/#debian grobda24 (~grobda24-@silentflame/member/grobda24) |
| 13:01.27 | *** join/#debian rrehbein (~rrehbein@71-13-171-2.static.fdul.wi.charter.com) |
| 13:01.33 | VelvetElvis | you need main, contrib, and non free in there |
| 13:01.37 | rgr | biel_: dont ssh in as root for a start. If you dont know if you're running a network manager you most certainly shouldbt be in a shell as root. |
| 13:01.46 | *** join/#debian paw (~afong@198.48.224.134) |
| 13:01.46 | heurist` | biel_: show us the output of cat /etc/resolv.conf |
| 13:01.54 | VelvetElvis | ie: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid main contrib non-free |
| 13:02.16 | biel_ | root@debian:~# cat /etc/resolv.conf |
| 13:02.16 | biel_ | # Generated by NetworkManager |
| 13:02.16 | biel_ | nameserver 192.168.0.1 |
| 13:02.26 | biel_ | so i`m using networkmanager |
| 13:02.32 | biel_ | its good to know, lol. |
| 13:02.44 | heurist` | biel_: is 192.168.0.1 the same DNS server that your Windows box is using? |
| 13:02.53 | rgr | biel_: now check your router is configured as a dns ... |
| 13:02.55 | *** join/#debian alreece45 (~areece45@unaffiliated/alreece45) |
| 13:03.29 | *** join/#debian corey84- (~Corey84@unaffiliated/corey84) |
| 13:03.32 | ws2k3 | i runned the apt-get update but it seems my debian repo is unreachable |
| 13:03.32 | *** join/#debian Abhijit_ (~Abhijit@unaffiliated/abhijit) |
| 13:03.45 | ws2k3 | could this cause that the adding of the i386 is not completed? |
| 13:03.59 | thoonai | biel_: if thats a headless machine, then its quite strange ^^ |
| 13:04.06 | *** join/#debian Bleakwise (~russell@2602:30a:c0d9:9649:584b:9dd9:882c:a1c6) |
| 13:04.11 | xiqy | ws2k3: probably not. |
| 13:04.22 | heurist` | ws2k3: what repo are you using. show us your sources.list |
| 13:04.32 | rgr | thoonai: why is it? Nothing strange about it at all. |
| 13:04.34 | *** join/#debian ndrei___ (~avo@83.142.149.227) |
| 13:04.37 | thoonai | biel_: I'd try to uninstall network-manager and configure it manually, if its not interfering eith services youre running |
| 13:04.44 | biel_ | thoonai: the one in windows is different then on linux but... |
| 13:04.47 | *** join/#debian alreece45 (~areece45@baalnet01.reece45.net) |
| 13:04.51 | thoonai | rgr: ? a headless system with network manager? |
| 13:05.02 | biel_ | i didnt change nothing, recently something went wrong |
| 13:05.16 | rgr | headless has many meanings. you dont need to run the gnome part of it you know. |
| 13:05.17 | heurist` | biel_: set linux to use the same one as windows uses |
| 13:05.19 | *** join/#debian smaug9 (~Jeff_Ward@cpe-67-249-184-11.twcny.res.rr.com) |
| 13:05.35 | *** join/#debian iomari (~iomari@41.206.12.57) |
| 13:05.42 | biel_ | heurist`: in resolv.conf? |
| 13:05.47 | heurist` | biel_: yes |
| 13:06.01 | rgr | which will be overridden by network manager... |
| 13:06.08 | ws2k3 | heurist i'm using a debian repo from the company that host my dedicated server i already contacted them and they are looking into it |
| 13:06.09 | *** join/#debian alreece45 (~areece45@unaffiliated/alreece45) |
| 13:06.14 | munnis | Ok, So I have moved a VS project to a linux machine, installed mono and when I run xbuild it pukes and tells me all about how the namespace MySql cannot be found. Sure, I do not have the assembly. Question is, how do I specify an assembly reference with xbuild? |
| 13:06.16 | *** join/#debian b1nar1 (~b1nar1@37-1-162-187.ip.skylogicnet.com) |
| 13:06.21 | heurist` | rgr: that is fine, for now we just get it working to test |
| 13:07.12 | munnis | wrong channel |
| 13:07.20 | thoonai | rgr: oh yeah I found it: I forgot to flag it with --batch |
| 13:07.22 | *** part/#debian alreece45 (~areece45@unaffiliated/alreece45) |
| 13:07.22 | thoonai | fyi |
| 13:07.27 | heurist` | ws2k3: if your repos are broken you will have trouble adding the software you need. resolve that first. |
| 13:07.34 | *** join/#debian Timmy (~irssi@unaffiliated/timmyt) |
| 13:08.43 | rgr | see chattr +1 http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/dhclient-etcresolvconf-hooks/ |
| 13:08.48 | rgr | +i |
| 13:09.24 | rgr | though frankly I would find out why the assigned dns isnt working. especially since the user seems new. Much easier. |
| 13:09.34 | biel_ | heurist`: it worked. Thanks. |
| 13:09.43 | *** join/#debian pabro (~null@unaffiliated/pqr) |
| 13:10.08 | heurist` | biel_: ok, but rebooting may break it again. try a reboot to confirm that, then we can work out why you have the wrong entry there. |
| 13:10.11 | *** join/#debian teran (~teran@91.218.144.129) |
| 13:10.35 | *** join/#debian kernalogs (~jacko@188.29.165.97.threembb.co.uk) |
| 13:10.41 | biel_ | wanna keep the uptime :) |
| 13:10.55 | thoonai | biel_: how longs the uptime? |
| 13:11.15 | heurist` | biel_: then I can not help you. but that should stay till your uptime rests. |
| 13:11.16 | biel_ | good enough for a home-server |
| 13:11.50 | thoonai | biel_: more then 170days? |
| 13:12.12 | thoonai | -then +than |
| 13:12.20 | biel_ | naah, but almost a 100 |
| 13:12.23 | biel_ | days |
| 13:12.29 | thoonai | biel_: pfff |
| 13:12.31 | thoonai | ^^ |
| 13:12.49 | biel_ | its only a storage place so its pretty nice anyway :) |
| 13:13.15 | heurist` | biel_: chasing uptime is not wise, reboots are needed to complete some updates. and when the desire for uptime makes you make decisions like this one you can see that it is harmful. |
| 13:13.52 | thoonai | heurist`: 174 days uptime, including 5 power downs :D |
| 13:14.08 | heurist` | thoonai: so? who cares? what does it matter? |
| 13:14.15 | thoonai | heurist`: nobody ;) |
| 13:14.23 | thoonai | heurist`: nothing ;) |
| 13:14.25 | heurist` | thoonai: good. |
| 13:14.59 | *** join/#debian DrSkyLizard (~quassel@unaffiliated/shiningthrough) |
| 13:15.02 | *** join/#debian darthanubis (~darthanub@unaffiliated/darthanubis) |
| 13:15.15 | *** join/#debian secrgb (~secrgb@28.96.190.90.sta.estpak.ee) |
| 13:16.22 | thoonai | biel_: I'm off the others are great guys and will help you ;) |
| 13:16.26 | biel_ | heurist`: so its like in a windows... |
| 13:16.37 | thoonai | biel_: sometimes ;) |
| 13:17.08 | heurist` | biel_: the principal still applies, yes. uptime has no value here. |
| 13:17.59 | biel_ | i`m guessing that after kernel-update reboot is needed especially? |
| 13:18.01 | *** join/#debian TildaTurn (~tilda@unaffiliated/tildaturn) |
| 13:18.15 | *** join/#debian osfe (~osfe@pc-91048.lal.in2p3.fr) |
| 13:18.46 | heurist` | biel_: not always, but also after some other updates too. |
| 13:19.02 | *** join/#debian secrgb (~secrgb@28.96.190.90.sta.estpak.ee) |
| 13:19.30 | *** join/#debian igi (~igi@14.146.39.42) |
| 13:19.31 | biel_ | good to know, huj. |
| 13:19.33 | biel_ | huh. |
| 13:19.44 | heurist` | biel_: there is the checkrestart in the debian-goodies package to check is any updates needed restarts. |
| 13:19.46 | *** join/#debian Kiril (kiril@freebsd/lover/kiril) |
| 13:20.42 | *** join/#debian ishiz (~ishiz@198.151.130.240) |
| 13:20.51 | heurist` | biel_: there is also a new package in backports called needrestart that does the same on every update. |
| 13:21.34 | biel_ | so its going to be a long day till i get through that document... |
| 13:22.23 | *** join/#debian tormen0815__ (~me@37.162.35.114) |
| 13:23.58 | *** join/#debian bmr (bmr@nat/redhat/x-oqeqkxjgtmhhobmh) |
| 13:24.09 | *** join/#debian Ryushin (~Ryushin@gateway/tor-sasl/ryushin) |
| 13:24.58 | *** join/#debian theotherstupidgu (~theothers@41.32.18.143) |
| 13:25.43 | *** join/#debian infinitum (~infinitum@df-001f-1a30-0005.10ge.i6.sungai.nl) |
| 13:25.50 | *** join/#debian smyers (~smyers@redhat/smyers) |
| 13:26.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1594] by debhelper |
| 13:26.22 | *** join/#debian s8321414 (~s8321414@140.127.73.81) |
| 13:27.16 | *** join/#debian Anoniem4l (~Anoniem4l@unaffiliated/anoniem4l) |
| 13:27.54 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@dpc6744163191.direcpc.com) |
| 13:28.18 | *** join/#debian m8 (~m8@unaffiliated/m8) |
| 13:29.30 | *** join/#debian Seto_Kaiba (~Hunterkll@50.242.254.37) |
| 13:29.43 | *** join/#debian osfe (~osfe@pc-91048.lal.in2p3.fr) |
| 13:29.50 | *** join/#debian smyers (~smyers@redhat/smyers) |
| 13:29.54 | *** join/#debian everamzah (~james@cpe-72-224-186-195.maine.res.rr.com) |
| 13:30.51 | *** join/#debian micechal_ (~quassel@adlu87.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 13:30.53 | *** join/#debian metallic (~kubsan@90.Red-88-7-194.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 13:31.03 | *** join/#debian Nothing4You (N4Y@nothing4you.w.tf-w.tf) |
| 13:31.07 | *** join/#debian Nothing4You_ (N4Y@nothing4you.w.tf-w.tf) |
| 13:31.09 | *** join/#debian santiagoR (~santiagoR@190.111.244.210) |
| 13:31.42 | *** join/#debian gtristan (~gtristan_@110.11.179.12) |
| 13:31.43 | *** join/#debian Guest23029 (~ariel@151.56.174.112) |
| 13:31.52 | *** join/#debian SignorD (~D@host86-171-dynamic.16-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 13:32.01 | *** join/#debian Abu-Ahmad22 (~mr-seif@188.48.248.251) |
| 13:33.21 | *** join/#debian Ricardo__ (~rick@189.63.175.80) |
| 13:33.22 | *** join/#debian Ricardo__ (~rick@unaffiliated/ricardo--/x-7903455) |
| 13:33.25 | *** join/#debian ndrei (~avo@83.142.149.227) |
| 13:34.37 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@dpc6744163191.direcpc.com) |
| 13:35.06 | ws2k3 | i did the dpkg --add and the apt-get update but i386 is not working yet |
| 13:35.10 | *** join/#debian ndb (~vagrant@189.26.138.87.dynamic.adsl.gvt.net.br) |
| 13:35.27 | *** join/#debian DammitJim (~DammitJim@173.227.148.6) |
| 13:35.31 | *** join/#debian paw (~afong@198-48-224-134.cpe.pppoe.ca) |
| 13:35.36 | *** join/#debian huayra (~ruben@ubuntu/member/hubuntu) |
| 13:36.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1604] by debhelper |
| 13:37.09 | jelly | !does not work |
| 13:37.10 | dpkg | "Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>. |
| 13:37.46 | *** join/#debian codygman (~cody@COMMEMORATI.ear1.Dallas1.Level3.net) |
| 13:37.49 | *** join/#debian codygman- (~cody@COMMEMORATI.ear1.Dallas1.Level3.net) |
| 13:37.53 | jelly | ws2k3: how does installing an :i386 package fail to work for you? |
| 13:38.01 | *** join/#debian m_tadeu (~quassel@bl9-175-136.dsl.telepac.pt) |
| 13:38.12 | *** join/#debian cisco987 (~francesco@88.98.68.173) |
| 13:38.20 | ws2k3 | i am trying to run a 32bit execuable |
| 13:38.32 | *** join/#debian MrAlexanB (~MrAlexand@43.232.251.212.customer.cdi.no) |
| 13:38.34 | ws2k3 | i'm not trying ot install a 32 bit package from the repo |
| 13:39.04 | ws2k3 | in the past i fixed that with apt-get install ia32-libs but i heard somewhere that is not the way to do it anymore |
| 13:39.34 | *** join/#debian tormen0815_ (~me@37.163.205.31) |
| 13:40.35 | cisco987 | suffix the package name with :i386 |
| 13:40.54 | cisco987 | but first dpkg --add-architecture i386 |
| 13:40.59 | *** join/#debian csmrfx (csmr@kapsi.fi) |
| 13:41.03 | cisco987 | ws2k3, |
| 13:41.21 | ws2k3 | cisco987 i dont want to install a 32 bit package from the repository |
| 13:41.36 | cisco987 | yeah i mean for the requirements |
| 13:41.43 | cisco987 | dependencies of that package |
| 13:41.52 | ws2k3 | already did that |
| 13:42.02 | *** join/#debian Kiril (kiril@freebsd/lover/kiril) |
| 13:42.05 | *** join/#debian comradekingu (~comradeki@188.113.100.105) |
| 13:42.08 | jelly | ws2k3: well, you make a 32bit executable work _by_ installing 32bit packages which provide the 32bit libraries it needs |
| 13:42.50 | *** join/#debian Elision (~Elision@2620:102:2001:902:225:90ff:fe58:ae48) |
| 13:42.55 | ws2k3 | the issue it not that the libary's are wrong but the application itself is 32 bit |
| 13:43.09 | ws2k3 | its a linux executable of maby 6/7 years old |
| 13:43.11 | csmrfx | I have usb audio input (rockstar cable). Alsa running. I can see the input levelschange volume in volume control. But no matter what, I can not get the audio to be outputted in the mix. VLC, browser, *every* other audio input gets automagically mixed into the output. What the h*** is going on, and how do I get to hear my guitar on top of videos in browser? |
| 13:43.12 | fraff | ws2k3: apt-get install libc6-i386 ? |
| 13:43.14 | cisco987 | ldd bin? |
| 13:43.36 | csmrfx | Its absurd that audio is still at this level! I remember having the same problems in 2006 |
| 13:43.37 | *** join/#debian jfchevrette (~textual@gw.funio.com) |
| 13:43.44 | *** join/#debian rodroma (~Rodroma@186.58.160.87) |
| 13:43.44 | jelly | ws2k3: so go install libc6:i386 for a start, then run ldd /path/to/that/binary to see what else is missing |
| 13:44.14 | csmrfx | I bet I have spent as many hours trying to get audio to work with linux, as I have spent on making music (the reason why I want to make audio work) |
| 13:44.15 | ws2k3 | i checked the servers where this is already working and there is fixed it by doing apt-get isall |
| 13:44.18 | Elision | I think I ran out of disk space while doing a dist-upgrade and a ton of packages are in a half configured state. dpkg --configure -a gives me an error when it tries to update udev |
| 13:44.34 | Elision | how could I at least figure out what the actual subprocess error it's hitting is? |
| 13:45.04 | *** join/#debian Kulrak (kulrak@C-59-101-147-60.mel.connect.net.au) |
| 13:45.04 | *** join/#debian Kulrak (kulrak@tlug/member/kulrak) |
| 13:45.10 | *** join/#debian Greylocks (~Greylocks@unaffiliated/greylocks) |
| 13:45.12 | ws2k3 | i checked the other servers i have and there i fixed it by install ia32-libs |
| 13:45.12 | *** join/#debian illy (~rian@unaffiliated/illy) |
| 13:45.41 | csmrfx | I think every distro should get serious about audio. If linux audio cannot be working properly, it should be noted everywhere. Otherwise it is just wasting hundreds if not thousands of hours of time with people fighting to get the audio to work like it should (already have in 2005) |
| 13:45.42 | *** join/#debian Zzeiss (~wsy@dsl092-078-219.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 13:45.56 | jelly | ws2k3: wheezy is different from older releases. Go install libc6:i386 and run ldd and report the output in a pastebin. |
| 13:46.03 | Elision | I don't want to try purging and reinstalling or something like that because.... it's udev |
| 13:46.46 | jelly | !upgrade ia32 libs |
| 13:46.46 | dpkg | The process of upgrading ia32* libraries to <multiarch> in <wheezy> is detailed in http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading#ia32libs . See http://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/amd64/release-notes/ch-whats-new#multiarch and http://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO for further details. |
| 13:46.49 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@dpc6744163191.direcpc.com) |
| 13:48.24 | ws2k3 | okay now it crashes on libtier0.so |
| 13:48.26 | *** join/#debian ArchDuke (~ArchDuke@72.28.30.52) |
| 13:50.11 | *** join/#debian Yutht (Yutht@host57-6-dynamic.27-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 13:50.14 | Yutht | someone here is an expert of cinema 4d ? |
| 13:50.26 | *** join/#debian infinitum (~infinitum@df-001f-1a30-0005.10ge.i6.sungai.nl) |
| 13:50.52 | *** join/#debian nighty^ (~nighty@hokuriku.rural-networks.com) |
| 13:51.36 | jelly | ws2k3: did you look at ldd /path/to/binary first? |
| 13:51.48 | *** join/#debian secrgb (~secrgb@28.96.190.90.sta.estpak.ee) |
| 13:52.02 | *** join/#debian TheCoffeMaker (~TheCoffeM@unaffiliated/thecoffemaker) |
| 13:52.26 | *** join/#debian aNnel (~Nnel@host86-189-1-123.range86-189.btcentralplus.com) |
| 13:53.11 | ws2k3 | yes i did but it does not show me libtier0 |
| 13:53.19 | *** join/#debian theotherstupidgu (~theothers@41.32.18.143) |
| 13:53.32 | csmrfx | Actually, I realize I have been trying to get linux audio to work for over 200 times. |
| 13:53.40 | csmrfx | I am doing it wrong. It just doesn't work. |
| 13:53.47 | *** join/#debian terxx (~Mathias@blue.homedata.be) |
| 13:53.54 | *** part/#debian csmrfx (csmr@kapsi.fi) |
| 13:54.20 | *** join/#debian mamamia (mhz@unaffiliated/mhz) |
| 13:54.54 | *** join/#debian markstar (markstar@gateway/shell/yourbnc/x-tewvnoawpydooaad) |
| 13:55.02 | *** join/#debian joo-_ (~joo@94.191.185.203.mobile.3.dk) |
| 13:55.56 | jelly | ws2k3: does it show any other libraries to be not found? |
| 13:56.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1611] by debhelper |
| 13:57.33 | DammitJim | do you guys have any recommendations on tutorials to build a file server with active directory integration? |
| 13:58.13 | *** join/#debian MadHatter42 (~tuwid@109.69.2.62) |
| 13:58.19 | *** join/#debian K4k (~K4k@unaffiliated/k4k) |
| 13:58.32 | ws2k3 | no thats the only one |
| 13:59.14 | *** join/#debian RagingComputer (~RagingCom@ip174-71-121-196.om.om.cox.net) |
| 13:59.58 | DammitJim | like has someone in here done this before? |
| 14:00.35 | *** join/#debian cleme1mp (~mclement@96-36-24-135.static.aldl.mi.charter.com) |
| 14:00.43 | itsfortybelow | i have, but it was a windows server :) |
| 14:01.00 | jordanm | DammitJim: https://wiki.debian.org/AuthenticatingLinuxWithActiveDirectory |
| 14:01.12 | DammitJim | jordanm, have you done it? |
| 14:01.15 | jordanm | DammitJim: authenticating users is probably the hard part, that doc should help |
| 14:01.20 | DammitJim | I was reading through that tutorial that is mostly taken from Ubuntu |
| 14:01.34 | jordanm | DammitJim: kind of |
| 14:01.39 | DammitJim | I've done the authentication part, but the samba integration is not working for me |
| 14:01.45 | jelly | ws2k3: then you just have to find that library somewhere. What does the whole error look like? |
| 14:01.54 | DammitJim | where a user "browses" with internet explorer to see their share on the server |
| 14:01.55 | jordanm | DammitJim: at $work we join all our linux servers the the windows AD domain, and one box has a couple of file shares |
| 14:02.12 | DammitJim | so far it only works for users that have logged on to the server and I can't have every user log on to the server |
| 14:02.29 | itsfortybelow | http://www.broexperts.com/2013/07/how-to-integrate-samba-file-server-with-active-directory/ |
| 14:02.35 | DammitJim | jordanm, are those linux servers debian? what software package do you use? I tried power broker |
| 14:02.46 | itsfortybelow | That's on RHEL, but should be fairly close |
| 14:02.47 | DammitJim | itsfortybelow, have you done that tutorial? |
| 14:03.01 | itsfortybelow | No, all our file servers are Windoze |
| 14:03.21 | *** join/#debian phre4k (~phre4k@HSI-KBW-46-237-208-199.hsi.kabel-badenwuerttemberg.de) |
| 14:03.31 | jordanm | DammitJim: centos, but the same software (winbind, samba, etc) is available in debian |
| 14:03.50 | DammitJim | jordanm, ok, cool.... I have hope, then |
| 14:03.53 | *** join/#debian frdmn (~frdmn@unaffiliated/frdmn) |
| 14:03.57 | jordanm | there is a newer solution for AD integration called sssd, but I have not used it |
| 14:04.01 | Elision | so any way to debug a postinst script? udev is still refusing to finish --configure |
| 14:04.18 | jordanm | Elision: sh -x /path/to/postinst_script |
| 14:04.22 | ws2k3 | currently i run a custom kernel provided by my hosting computer i know there is a command to install the default kernel but i dont remember the command |
| 14:04.27 | DammitJim | I've been reading that I'm probably just missing something with PAM to automatically map their home folders (you see, they don't exist in /home/local/<domain>) |
| 14:04.38 | DammitJim | sssd sounds cool |
| 14:04.41 | Elision | jordanm: doesn't it take some arguments |
| 14:04.42 | *** join/#debian secrgb (~secrgb@28.96.190.90.sta.estpak.ee) |
| 14:04.47 | DammitJim | I might have looked at that with Red Hat last year |
| 14:05.01 | jordanm | Elision: no, maintainer scripts don't take args |
| 14:05.09 | jordanm | Elision: they are in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ |
| 14:05.26 | Elision | hmm |
| 14:05.28 | *** join/#debian usr3 (~usr3@ip68-230-107-178.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 14:06.09 | jordanm | Elision: so something like sh -x /var/lib/dpkg/info/udev.postinst |
| 14:06.10 | *** join/#debian lostcoffee (~lostcoffe@gateway/tor-sasl/lostcoffee) |
| 14:06.23 | *** join/#debian Errorical (~Errorical@83.243.255.36) |
| 14:06.38 | usr3 | just installed jessie and it's going really well. want to block some ad urls so was thinking about a firewall. does jessie come with a firewall? what would be a good firewall to install if not? |
| 14:06.44 | Elision | jordanm: right, if I run that it complains it doesn't recognize an empty argument |
| 14:06.54 | jordanm | Elision: paste the output |
| 14:07.09 | Elision | looks like I want to pass it 'configure' as an option |
| 14:07.17 | Elision | that gave me some promising results |
| 14:07.42 | jordanm | Elision: ah, you are right |
| 14:07.54 | *** join/#debian WifiBrain (~brain@cortex.brainbox.cc) |
| 14:08.03 | *** join/#debian Superdawg (~Superdawg@ec2-54-243-59-20.compute-1.amazonaws.com) |
| 14:08.12 | *** join/#debian WifiBrain (brain@cortex.brainbox.cc) |
| 14:08.30 | *** join/#debian WifiBrain (brain@cortex.brainbox.cc) |
| 14:08.31 | *** join/#debian diroots (~diroots@APoitiers-651-1-176-69.w2-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 14:08.48 | *** join/#debian WifiBrain (brain@cortex.brainbox.cc) |
| 14:09.06 | *** join/#debian WifiBrain (brain@cortex.brainbox.cc) |
| 14:09.24 | *** join/#debian WifiBrain (brain@cortex.brainbox.cc) |
| 14:09.42 | *** join/#debian WifiBrain (brain@cortex.brainbox.cc) |
| 14:10.00 | *** join/#debian WifiBrain (brain@cortex.brainbox.cc) |
| 14:10.16 | *** join/#debian tormen0815_ (~me@37.162.227.129) |
| 14:10.18 | *** join/#debian WifiBrain (brain@cortex.brainbox.cc) |
| 14:10.20 | *** join/#debian tharkun (~0@187.188.94.182) |
| 14:10.34 | usr3 | just installed jessie and it's going really well. want to block some ad urls so was thinking about a firewall. does jessie come with a firewall? what would be a good firewall to install if not? |
| 14:10.36 | *** join/#debian WifiBrain (brain@cortex.brainbox.cc) |
| 14:10.54 | *** join/#debian WifiBrain (brain@cortex.brainbox.cc) |
| 14:11.12 | *** join/#debian WifiBrain (brain@cortex.brainbox.cc) |
| 14:11.30 | *** join/#debian WifiBrain (brain@cortex.brainbox.cc) |
| 14:11.48 | *** join/#debian WifiBrain (brain@cortex.brainbox.cc) |
| 14:11.50 | mtn | usr3: in linux the firewall is included in the kernel. it is called ip-tables and there are guis to help control it. look in the debian wiki for more info. |
| 14:12.06 | *** join/#debian WifiBrain (brain@cortex.brainbox.cc) |
| 14:12.09 | usr3 | ah thanks |
| 14:12.24 | *** join/#debian WifiBrain (brain@cortex.brainbox.cc) |
| 14:12.56 | *** join/#debian Brain (~brain@cortex.brainbox.cc) |
| 14:12.58 | Elision | wtf, I can run the postinst script with the same arguments dpkg seems to be using, and get no errors |
| 14:14.22 | *** join/#debian nitefall (~thewellin@174.46.205.28) |
| 14:14.27 | *** join/#debian Brain (~brain@cortex.brainbox.cc) |
| 14:14.37 | *** join/#debian teran_ (~teran@91.218.144.129) |
| 14:14.44 | jordanm | Elision: is the exit code 0 when you run it? |
| 14:15.09 | *** join/#debian infinitum (~infinitum@df-001f-1a30-0005.10ge.i6.sungai.nl) |
| 14:15.26 | rgr | usr3: probably better and easier to do it at your router. |
| 14:16.20 | Elision | yeah |
| 14:16.49 | ws2k3 | why idea how i could install libtier0.so into debian ? |
| 14:17.34 | petn-randall | ,checkbackport phabricator |
| 14:17.35 | judd | Backporting package phabricator in sidâwheezy/i386: all build-dependencies satisfied using wheezy. |
| 14:17.43 | *** join/#debian carandraug (~carandrau@octave/developer/carandraug) |
| 14:18.50 | *** join/#debian paranoids (~markus@81.94.53.5) |
| 14:19.52 | *** join/#debian Paradisee (~quassel@93-44-236-204.ip99.fastwebnet.it) |
| 14:20.04 | darthanubis | Bug#764103 |
| 14:20.52 | *** join/#debian Flounder3345 (~Flounder@ip72-221-88-170.ri.ri.cox.net) |
| 14:26.34 | *** join/#debian Tom01 (~tom@p5DDFC111.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 14:27.25 | *** join/#debian theotherstupidgu (~theothers@41.32.18.143) |
| 14:27.35 | *** join/#debian hellangel7 (~hellangel@117.192.162.148) |
| 14:27.45 | *** join/#debian josokr (~Thunderbi@mobile-internet-5d6adf-5.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 14:28.26 | *** join/#debian munnis2 (~munnis@185.32.9.250) |
| 14:28.27 | Elision | jordanm: well since I could run the postinst script just find I edited the status file to convince debian that udev was installed ok |
| 14:28.54 | Elision | we'll see if this leads to tears down the road |
| 14:31.21 | *** join/#debian delaytime0 (~delaytime@ip-176-52-204-18.static.reverse.dsi.net) |
| 14:31.35 | *** join/#debian tnguyen (~Thunderbi@206-196-186-154.wireless.umd.edu) |
| 14:32.33 | *** join/#debian Levenshtein (~Levenshte@50.23.131.239) |
| 14:33.32 | *** join/#debian pLuSin (~anonymous@238-154-89-200.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 14:34.02 | *** join/#debian jtrucks (jtrucks@freenode/staff/lopsa.foundingmember.jtrucks) |
| 14:34.39 | *** join/#debian brontosaurusrex (~bronto@unaffiliated/brontosaurusrex) |
| 14:34.41 | *** join/#debian wjtaylor (~wjtaylor@50.153.129.128) |
| 14:34.50 | wjtaylor | does debian have anything like a ppa? |
| 14:34.52 | *** join/#debian josokr (~Thunderbi@mobile-internet-5d6adf-5.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 14:35.57 | *** join/#debian sinonick (~sinonick@2a02:580:8035:3600:11be:7020:8581:a64b) |
| 14:35.59 | *** join/#debian detha (~detha@unaffiliated/detha) |
| 14:36.16 | pLuSin | [wjtaylor] do you have information in https://wiki.debian.org/HowToSetupADebianRepository |
| 14:36.17 | *** join/#debian PryMar56 (~prymar@cpe-107-185-144-55.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 14:36.17 | *** join/#debian PryMar56 (~prymar@unaffiliated/prymar56) |
| 14:36.31 | *** join/#debian xreal (~xreal@unaffiliated/xreal) |
| 14:37.14 | pLuSin | [wjtaylor] or check this too: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/83060/are-ubuntu-ppa-repositories-usable-on-debian-wheezy |
| 14:38.07 | *** join/#debian knosys (~knosys@unaffiliated/knosys) |
| 14:38.13 | *** part/#debian knosys (~knosys@unaffiliated/knosys) |
| 14:39.53 | *** join/#debian infinitum (~infinitum@df-001f-1a30-0005.10ge.i6.sungai.nl) |
| 14:41.33 | *** join/#debian rodroma (~Rodroma@186.58.160.87) |
| 14:42.18 | *** join/#debian jthomas__ (~jthomas@nat.sierrabravo.net) |
| 14:42.31 | *** join/#debian bariumbitmap (~nbeaver@162-202-48-157.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) |
| 14:42.41 | *** join/#debian Sir_Designer (~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug) |
| 14:43.59 | *** join/#debian bizarro_1 (~bizarro_1@249.Red-88-5-43.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 14:44.51 | *** join/#debian ricepooding (~ricepoodi@79-68-233-253.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 14:45.25 | *** part/#debian fkt (~devnull@wardial.me) |
| 14:45.39 | *** join/#debian TyrfingMjolnir (~Tyrfing@cm191.iota111.maxonline.com.sg) |
| 14:46.10 | *** join/#debian kottlett (~quassel@dslb-088-073-125-057.088.073.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 14:46.38 | *** join/#debian aNnel (~Nnel@host86-189-1-123.range86-189.btcentralplus.com) |
| 14:46.48 | *** join/#debian pLuSin (~anoymous@238-154-89-200.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 14:46.50 | *** join/#debian ovanau (~mikest@supranet-tech.secure-on.net) |
| 14:46.58 | *** join/#debian corey84- (~Corey84@unaffiliated/corey84) |
| 14:48.37 | *** join/#debian tnguyen (~Thunderbi@csnat-3.cs.umd.edu) |
| 14:48.40 | mtn | wjtaylor: and even more important: https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian |
| 14:49.52 | *** join/#debian nardev (~nardev@77.238.221.157) |
| 14:50.53 | *** join/#debian TDog (~chatzilla@75-164-3-86.tcso.qwest.net) |
| 14:52.07 | *** join/#debian mhz (mhz@unaffiliated/mhz) |
| 14:52.17 | *** join/#debian stunder (~stunder@wsip-98-173-13-146.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 14:53.58 | *** join/#debian mallxs (~mallxs@84.246.31.190) |
| 14:55.36 | *** join/#debian l4sh (~l4sh@unaffiliated/l4sh) |
| 14:55.50 | *** join/#debian hele (~hele@212-149-221-147.bb.dnainternet.fi) |
| 14:56.07 | *** join/#debian TDog_ (~chatzilla@75-164-3-86.tcso.qwest.net) |
| 14:58.12 | *** join/#debian m8 (~m8@unaffiliated/m8) |
| 14:59.19 | *** join/#debian crayon (null@2001:468:c80:6103:5054:ff:feb3:d6fc) |
| 14:59.42 | *** join/#debian crayon (null@unaffiliated/button) |
| 14:59.53 | *** join/#debian err404 (~err404@62-210-205-221.rev.poneytelecom.eu) |
| 15:00.28 | *** join/#debian Paradisee_ (~quassel@93-44-236-204.ip99.fastwebnet.it) |
| 15:01.26 | wjtaylor | pLuSin + mtn : I'll take a look thanks |
| 15:02.16 | *** join/#debian nardev (~nardev@77.238.221.157) |
| 15:02.20 | *** join/#debian angerman (~m@x590fa8a1.dyn.telefonica.de) |
| 15:02.40 | *** join/#debian mhz (mhz@unaffiliated/mhz) |
| 15:04.34 | *** join/#debian bariumbitmap (~nbeaver@162-202-48-157.lightspeed.cicril.sbcglobal.net) |
| 15:04.36 | *** join/#debian infinitum (~infinitum@df-001f-1a30-0005.10ge.i6.sungai.nl) |
| 15:04.51 | *** join/#debian angerman (~m@x590fa8a1.dyn.telefonica.de) |
| 15:05.42 | *** join/#debian KTL (~KTL2@77.109.101.121) |
| 15:07.20 | *** join/#debian mennea (~textual@109.64.201.239) |
| 15:07.29 | *** join/#debian bl1tter (~A@106.64.21.95.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 15:07.39 | pLuSin | wjtaylor you re welcome! |
| 15:07.41 | *** join/#debian sdfvsfgvsdf (~bauasdgwg@37.254.225.151) |
| 15:08.21 | *** join/#debian rgr (~user@e177120114.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 15:09.44 | *** join/#debian roost (~roost@unaffiliated/roost) |
| 15:10.49 | *** join/#debian angerman (~m@x590fa8a1.dyn.telefonica.de) |
| 15:11.12 | *** join/#debian antranigv (~user@89.205.224.124) |
| 15:11.14 | *** join/#debian TuxBrother (~TuxBrothe@ip565f9a1c.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 15:12.05 | *** join/#debian detha (~detha@unaffiliated/detha) |
| 15:13.09 | *** join/#debian Timmy (~irssi@unaffiliated/timmyt) |
| 15:15.27 | *** join/#debian antranigv (~user@89.205.224.124) |
| 15:15.31 | *** join/#debian Paradisee (~quassel@93-44-236-204.ip99.fastwebnet.it) |
| 15:15.43 | *** join/#debian blahRus (~blahRus@23.111.255.85) |
| 15:16.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1618] by debhelper |
| 15:16.05 | *** join/#debian sadtaco (~aaa@2602:306:833b:5980:61ae:c572:c4a:9b6a) |
| 15:19.42 | *** join/#debian Chargen (~Chargen@cluster.xs4all.nl) |
| 15:20.10 | *** join/#debian g00gz (~Adium@199.244.84.14) |
| 15:20.10 | *** join/#debian Duststorm (~Duststorm@ip-83-101-75-40.customer.schedom-europe.net) |
| 15:21.04 | *** join/#debian juon (~pi8@177.44.97.161) |
| 15:21.43 | antranigv | Greetings :) can anyone explain this problem with APT ? :) http://paste.debian.net/129260/ |
| 15:22.05 | *** join/#debian detha (~detha@unaffiliated/detha) |
| 15:23.11 | heurist` | antranigv: what is ultrabay-scripts? I do not see that package in debian. |
| 15:23.39 | *** join/#debian Kulrak (kulrak@C-59-101-14-242.hay.connect.net.au) |
| 15:23.50 | antranigv | heurist`: I don't know, I am trying to upgrade then to install LAMP |
| 15:23.53 | *** join/#debian Kulrak (kulrak@tlug/member/kulrak) |
| 15:24.10 | mtn | antranigv: which version of debian? |
| 15:24.48 | antranigv | 7.7 ... but it's the wmlive edition |
| 15:25.01 | ChrisH | ,v ultrabay-scripts |
| 15:25.02 | judd | No package named 'ultrabay-scripts' was found in i386. |
| 15:26.32 | *** join/#debian vivid (~vivid@unaffiliated/vivid) |
| 15:27.01 | heurist` | antranigv: it looks like that package is broken, but it is not a debian package so we can not really help you. |
| 15:27.34 | antranigv | heurist`: I think it for the wmlive edition, I'll delete it anyway, thanks !! |
| 15:27.54 | ChrisH | apt-cache policy ultrabay-scripts ; might show you who to ask/blame |
| 15:28.22 | *** join/#debian Orbitrix (~Huevos@c-76-113-30-226.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) |
| 15:28.55 | *** join/#debian Orbitrix (~Huevos@c-76-113-30-226.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) |
| 15:29.01 | *** join/#debian angerman (~m@x590fa8a1.dyn.telefonica.de) |
| 15:29.15 | *** join/#debian Orbitrix (~Huevos@c-76-113-30-226.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) |
| 15:29.45 | heurist` | dpkg: tell antranigv -about based on debian |
| 15:30.29 | *** join/#debian blivande (~Chw@189.193.69.170) |
| 15:31.42 | *** join/#debian darthanubis (~darthanub@unaffiliated/darthanubis) |
| 15:32.43 | *** part/#debian g00gz (~Adium@199.244.84.14) |
| 15:33.08 | *** join/#debian tnguyen1 (~Thunderbi@206-196-186-154.wireless.umd.edu) |
| 15:33.46 | *** join/#debian skyrter (~skyrter@117-191.198-178.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 15:35.20 | *** join/#debian paranoids (~markus@81.94.53.5) |
| 15:35.23 | *** join/#debian IIT_ (~IIT@unaffiliated/xtriz) |
| 15:36.44 | *** part/#debian antranigv (~user@89.205.224.124) |
| 15:36.45 | *** join/#debian Devon_ (~Devon_@63.214.236.169) |
| 15:36.58 | *** join/#debian vital (~zso@178.238.214.34) |
| 15:37.07 | *** join/#debian mortale (~mortale@gateway/tor-sasl/mortale) |
| 15:38.08 | *** join/#debian ongolaBoy (~ongolaBoy@unaffiliated/ongolaboy) |
| 15:38.17 | angerman | I'm trying to build a debian package, where do I start? |
| 15:39.42 | abrotman | dpkg: tell angerman about nmg |
| 15:40.44 | *** join/#debian aNnel (~Nnel@host86-189-1-123.range86-189.btcentralplus.com) |
| 15:41.01 | *** join/#debian gerforce (~zoujunc@120.210.166.112) |
| 15:41.05 | *** join/#debian stunder (~stunder@wsip-98-173-13-146.oc.oc.cox.net) |
| 15:41.25 | *** join/#debian epokmedia (~epokmedia@did75-h07-89-83-78-19.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) |
| 15:44.06 | *** join/#debian iomari (~iomari@41.220.69.204) |
| 15:48.09 | *** join/#debian Bliked (~Bliked@192.241.190.34) |
| 15:48.56 | *** join/#debian geoextra (~geoextra@ec2-54-93-165-172.eu-central-1.compute.amazonaws.com) |
| 15:49.16 | *** join/#debian frostschutz (~frostschu@pD9E51490.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 15:49.35 | *** join/#debian infinitum (~infinitum@df-001f-1a30-0005.10ge.i6.sungai.nl) |
| 15:49.46 | *** join/#debian SPF|Cloud (uid11755@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nqaujxrsbqlmvtgv) |
| 15:50.07 | *** join/#debian MeaK (~meak@LPoitiers-156-85-30-165.w193-248.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 15:50.34 | *** join/#debian Sbroker` (~DebianSta@unaffiliated/sbroker) |
| 15:50.46 | *** join/#debian plusin (plusin@shell.xshellz.com) |
| 15:50.49 | plusin | /whois $me |
| 15:50.53 | plusin | lol |
| 15:50.56 | *** join/#debian KD7SPO-rod (~Adium@chejudo.wtfo.net) |
| 15:52.10 | MeaK | Hi, I have a error when I try to execute : python3 -m pip install psycopg2 |
| 15:52.16 | MeaK | x86_64-linux-gnu-gcc: error: unrecognized command line option â-fstack-protector-strongâ |
| 15:52.19 | *** join/#debian kpease (~kpease@72.22.182.162) |
| 15:52.59 | MeaK | and I have gcc --version : (Debian 4.7.2-5) 4.7.2 |
| 15:53.26 | *** join/#debian kpease (~kpease@72.22.182.162) |
| 15:53.28 | *** join/#debian sdouble25 (~stephan@dslb-088-070-086-166.088.070.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 15:53.40 | *** join/#debian tonythomas (uid25971@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dkljxmjzalquppqr) |
| 15:54.30 | *** join/#debian kpease (~kpease@72.22.182.162) |
| 15:54.52 | *** join/#debian jalalsfs (~jalal@unaffiliated/jalalsfs) |
| 15:55.07 | *** join/#debian daniel-s (~daniel-s@220-244-249-183.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 15:56.36 | *** join/#debian CAP2070 (~anonymous@238-154-89-200.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 15:56.58 | *** part/#debian CAP2070 (~anonymous@238-154-89-200.fibertel.com.ar) |
| 15:57.15 | *** join/#debian SPF|Cloud (uid11755@wikipedia/Southparkfan) |
| 15:58.00 | *** join/#debian nime13 (~nicolai@x1-6-d8-50-e6-53-73-8a.cpe.webspeed.dk) |
| 15:58.01 | jhutchins_wk | MeaK: Sounds like a #python problem to me - possibly a version error? |
| 15:58.10 | *** join/#debian lostcoffee (~lostcoffe@gateway/tor-sasl/lostcoffee) |
| 15:58.46 | MeaK | jhutchins_wk: true ;p |
| 15:59.38 | nime13 | Hi, can any of you tell me why I can't apply the numix theme properly to buttons and scrollbars? It works fine on borders. Tried googling... http://imgur.com/0LvYHYr see pic |
| 15:59.50 | *** join/#debian spindley (~mike@unaffiliated/spindley) |
| 16:01.31 | *** join/#debian delaytime0 (~delaytime@ip-176-52-204-18.static.reverse.dsi.net) |
| 16:01.45 | *** join/#debian pkv (~pkvvvv@dau94-2-82-66-64-67.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 16:01.54 | *** join/#debian DammitJim (~DammitJim@173.227.148.6) |
| 16:03.19 | *** join/#debian djbkd (~djbkd@173-228-104-67.dsl.dynamic.fusionbroadband.com) |
| 16:04.04 | *** join/#debian TomyLobo (~TomyLobo@ip5b417367.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) |
| 16:04.41 | *** join/#debian Levenshtein_ (~Levenshte@114.81-166-203.customer.lyse.net) |
| 16:05.27 | *** join/#debian Baddie (~irssi@ec2-54-201-207-81.us-west-2.compute.amazonaws.com) |
| 16:05.30 | Baddie | hai |
| 16:05.39 | Baddie | can i install old gnome in jessie |
| 16:05.46 | *** part/#debian edoardo (~edoardo@host5-194-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 16:05.59 | Baddie | my nautilus is totaly weird |
| 16:06.13 | spindley | Baddie: why not install MATE? |
| 16:06.27 | Baddie | mate is messed too |
| 16:06.42 | Baddie | the cairo dock is underneatth |
| 16:06.48 | Baddie | i alreqady have mate |
| 16:06.51 | Baddie | and cinamon |
| 16:07.14 | mtn | Baddie: then the answer is "no", you can't install gnome2 |
| 16:07.20 | *** join/#debian Gnomino (~Gnomino@2a01:e35:8b32:c710:ba27:ebff:fecd:da9) |
| 16:07.21 | spindley | go back in time and don't install the cairo dock? |
| 16:07.22 | spindley | shrug |
| 16:07.41 | Baddie | go back in ur ass |
| 16:07.47 | Baddie | lel |
| 16:07.51 | *** join/#debian metallic_ (~kubsan@90.Red-88-7-194.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 16:08.00 | Baddie | dam hermits |
| 16:08.18 | *** join/#debian towo` (~towo@ipb2191d47.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) |
| 16:08.24 | *** join/#debian acebarry (~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/acebarry) |
| 16:08.31 | *** join/#debian bbtech (~bbtech@67.139.42.222) |
| 16:08.41 | *** join/#debian Megaf_ (~Megaf@unaffiliated/megaf) |
| 16:08.43 | *** join/#debian zerick (~eocrospom@190.118.16.131) |
| 16:09.02 | *** join/#debian nicdev` (user@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fedf:4986) |
| 16:09.12 | Baddie | this is why gnome is still king u lil shits |
| 16:09.17 | *** join/#debian acebarry (~weechat@gateway/tor-sasl/acebarry) |
| 16:09.35 | mtn | Baddie: please stay on topic |
| 16:09.35 | Baddie | coz no mater how messed they make it the alternative is still poo |
| 16:10.15 | Baddie | i wish gnome2 just came back and thats it |
| 16:10.19 | Baddie | w compiz |
| 16:12.18 | *** join/#debian trifolio6 (~h@62.43.62.203.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 16:14.17 | *** join/#debian infinitum (~infinitum@df-001f-1a30-0005.10ge.i6.sungai.nl) |
| 16:15.21 | *** join/#debian deni (~deni@unaffiliated/deni) |
| 16:15.45 | deni | is anyone having issue with the latest gnome-shell? ie freeze ups upon login? (the mouse can still move though) |
| 16:16.25 | mtn | deni: you the same person asking on #debian-next? |
| 16:16.36 | deni | mtn: indeed |
| 16:16.50 | deni | doesn't seem to be anyone active there though |
| 16:16.54 | mtn | deni: this channel won't suspect you are using jessie if you don't say so ;) |
| 16:17.14 | deni | mtn: ah yes...jessie indeed |
| 16:17.51 | deni | the productivity for this day has fallen dramatically |
| 16:17.57 | deni | i can't get anything done |
| 16:18.00 | somiaj | deni: please don't cross post. #debian-next on irc.oftc.net is the prefered place for jessie support |
| 16:18.40 | somiaj | deni: that is the problem with running jessie, it isn't a stable polished os and sometimes has bugs. Check the bts, use snapshot.debian.org or your old packegs in /var/cache/apt/archive and install the older versions that work is sometimes a quick solution. |
| 16:18.40 | jhutchins_wk | deni: If your object is to get things done rather than mess with the computer, you should be running stable. |
| 16:18.48 | brontosaurusrex | deni; install an alternative wm/de |
| 16:19.19 | *** join/#debian levifig (~levi@hakr.io) |
| 16:19.34 | deni | yeah i was afraid i'd get answers like this on this channel |
| 16:19.43 | deni | nevermind then |
| 16:20.21 | *** join/#debian m8 (~m8@unaffiliated/m8) |
| 16:20.29 | *** join/#debian GLiX (~GLiX@2a00:1a28:1166::1011) |
| 16:20.34 | *** join/#debian lift (~lift@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:21b:21ff:feda:4ca7) |
| 16:20.35 | *** join/#debian acz32 (~xgb880@unaffiliated/acz32) |
| 16:21.34 | *** join/#debian Ratboy (~ratboy@essn-d9bb6167.pool.mediaways.net) |
| 16:21.42 | *** join/#debian bollullera (~ana@95.63.152.106) |
| 16:21.46 | *** join/#debian DaisyTheCow (~andy@host86-186-184-126.range86-186.btcentralplus.com) |
| 16:22.01 | *** join/#debian preller (~preller@unaffiliated/preller) |
| 16:22.24 | jhutchins_wk | deni: You can always dual-boot testing and stable so you have a system to fall back to when testing breaks. |
| 16:22.40 | *** join/#debian jackbrown (~se@93-44-41-0.ip95.fastwebnet.it) |
| 16:22.40 | *** join/#debian brong (~brong@220-245-36-226.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 16:22.56 | deni | somiaj: sorry for cross posting...was desperate |
| 16:23.29 | deni | brontosaurusrex: i have a couple of them just for cases like this..but they're not my primary ones and are not set up for my workflow...ie. it sucks using them as is |
| 16:23.50 | somiaj | deni: in the future I would use stable for a production machine that you can't be bothered to fix things when work is pending. Luckly for you jessie will freeze and be start the release process soon, so just make sure you have 'jessie' and not 'testing' in your sources.list and stick with stable once it releases. (: |
| 16:23.58 | deni | jhutchins_wk: i know....sid has proven to be better because stable has waaay to old packages |
| 16:24.29 | *** join/#debian bariumbitmap (~nbeaver@dh187.ls.iit.edu) |
| 16:24.33 | deni | my issue with stable is that it doesn't get updates as soon as i'd want it too |
| 16:24.51 | brontosaurusrex | deni: what apps? |
| 16:25.01 | *** join/#debian guampa (~guampa@gateway/tor-sasl/guampa) |
| 16:25.02 | deni | it's really not worth having it on a workstation |
| 16:25.02 | jhutchins_wk | deni: It's not supposed to get updates for the sake of updates. |
| 16:25.21 | deni | jhutchins_wk: i understand all that..just sayin that's why i'm not using it |
| 16:25.28 | jhutchins_wk | deni: It's only supposed to get bugfixes and security patches, that's what keeps it stable. |
| 16:25.30 | deni | brontosaurusrex: i can't recall any more tbh |
| 16:25.48 | deni | jhutchins_wk: yes....and that's what makes it fit for a prod server...not for a workstation |
| 16:25.50 | brontosaurusrex | deni: I mean, what apps are too old for your taste? |
| 16:25.56 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@dpc6744163191.direcpc.com) |
| 16:26.24 | brontosaurusrex | deni: an example, i just wonder ... |
| 16:26.27 | deni | brontosaurusrex: there were a lot of them....i seriously can't remember any more....too many years have gone by to remmeber that sort of thing |
| 16:26.34 | mtn | deni: by the way, gnome-shell is just fine on jessie on my updodate machine |
| 16:26.36 | brontosaurusrex | ok |
| 16:26.51 | deni | mtn: tnx for the info |
| 16:27.24 | deni | somiaj: i do use stable fro prod machines....but not for desktops/workstations |
| 16:27.36 | jhutchins_wk | deni: Possibly a video driver issue? /var/log/Xorg.0.log? |
| 16:27.50 | deni | jhutchins_wk: well it it's that then the kernel is at fault |
| 16:28.10 | deni | jhutchins_wk: i could not find anything in the logs...it all looked normal |
| 16:29.12 | *** join/#debian Zzeiss (~wsy@68-246-93-196.pools.spcsdns.net) |
| 16:29.15 | *** join/#debian Ad1 (~Adrian_Rn@88-199-45-85.matcom.com.pl) |
| 16:29.36 | jhutchins_wk | deni: So boot back to the previous kernel. |
| 16:29.54 | deni | btw why are downgrades such a hassle...i mean why do we need snapshosts? can't the unstable repo retain a couple of older versions? |
| 16:30.06 | deni | jhutchins_wk: i did try that...didn't help |
| 16:30.13 | deni | jhutchins_wk: downgrading gnome-shell now |
| 16:30.43 | Walex | deni: if you use the 'testing' or 'unstable' archives you are an advanced system developer and you don't need to ask those questions :-) |
| 16:31.25 | *** join/#debian mirco (~mirco@ip-176-198-211-199.hsi05.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 16:31.51 | deni | Walex: that's not helping...I really don't get why unstable can't retain a few older versions for cases such as when something breaks? |
| 16:31.52 | *** join/#debian potatoes_ (~potatoes_@107-217-9-120.lightspeed.sndgca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 16:32.04 | deni | Walex: ie why to we need a separate repo? |
| 16:32.23 | jhutchins_wk | deni: The packaging system can't handle multiple versions very well. |
| 16:32.34 | deni | jhutchins_wk: btw the downgrade resolved the issue |
| 16:32.34 | *** join/#debian Devon__ (~Devon_@63.214.236.169) |
| 16:32.49 | jhutchins_wk | deni: RPM supports downgrades, but it makes maintaining a repo a much more resource-intensive project. |
| 16:32.54 | Walex | deni: would you like to ask why downgrading is not recommended in 'stable'? |
| 16:32.55 | *** join/#debian cybrNaut (cybrNaut@unaffiliated/cybrnaut) |
| 16:33.01 | deni | jhutchins_wk: ah the old "packaging is hard let's go shopping" why didn't you say so. :) |
| 16:33.14 | deni | jhutchins_wk: i haven't found a packaging system that works 100% well |
| 16:33.37 | Walex | deni: if you ask questions about 'testing' and 'unstable' this is not the right channel even :-) |
| 16:34.04 | *** join/#debian quinput (~quinput@pdpc/supporter/active/quinput) |
| 16:34.10 | deni | Walex: i know and you're not helping. it's not like there's a sea of issues coming in and i'm making noise with my testing/unstable questions |
| 16:34.13 | Walex | deni: again, it might help you to ask why downgrading is not recommended in 'stable' |
| 16:34.13 | jhutchins_wk | Walex: It's ok to ask about them here, it's just that -next will have a higher concentration of knowledge. |
| 16:34.36 | deni | Walex: that's a stupid question imho |
| 16:34.41 | *** join/#debian nodedfree (~nodedfree@176.126.246.200) |
| 16:34.41 | *** join/#debian nodedfree (~nodedfree@unaffiliated/nodedfree) |
| 16:34.46 | deni | why would you want to downgrade in stable? |
| 16:34.56 | deni | bah |
| 16:34.58 | *** join/#debian aNnel (~Nnel@host86-189-1-123.range86-189.btcentralplus.com) |
| 16:35.05 | deni | anyway it works now and it's definitely a gnome-shell issue |
| 16:35.12 | Walex | deni: far more interesting than asking the same about 'testing' or 'unstable' |
| 16:35.16 | deni | there's an open issue even...opened today/yesterday |
| 16:35.24 | deni | issue tracking sucks btw |
| 16:36.03 | deni | Walex: what's your point? if you have something to say say it...if not then don't |
| 16:36.06 | *** join/#debian hellangel7 (~hellangel@117.192.179.224) |
| 16:36.45 | mtn | nice attitude :P |
| 16:37.34 | deni | mtn: sorry...ppl make me angry with responses like that. |
| 16:37.37 | *** join/#debian martinus (~martinus@host31-54-188-147.range31-54.btcentralplus.com) |
| 16:37.57 | Walex | deni: *my* point has already been said: that IMNHO 'testing' and 'unstable' should only be used by system developers who understand very well how and why the packaging works like it does. However questions about packaging choices and policies for 'stable' are rather more justifiable. |
| 16:37.58 | *** part/#debian cjdavies (~cj@cjdavies.org) |
| 16:38.10 | *** join/#debian galex-713 (~user@2a02-8428-00c4-a300-6169-baf5-c76e-437f.rev.sfr.net) |
| 16:38.50 | martinus | Hi everyone. I know that this is probably a general linux question rather than debian specific but could anyone tell me what best-practice for updating user group-permissions is after adding them to a field in /etc/groups ? |
| 16:38.53 | deni | Walex: sorry it's just the way you said it rubs me the wrong way. |
| 16:39.01 | *** join/#debian infinitum (~infinitum@df-001f-1a30-0005.10ge.i6.sungai.nl) |
| 16:39.11 | *** join/#debian ogny (~orkun@88.253.183.71) |
| 16:39.11 | Walex | deni: that happens a lot admittedly... :-) |
| 16:39.31 | Walex | martinus: sadly there isn't |
| 16:40.13 | Walex | deni: in part because many people have the "I want to solve my problem without understanding where it is coming from" and I do the opposite. |
| 16:40.22 | martinus | Walex: Oh dear. :D |
| 16:40.31 | deni | Walex: i have no issue with taking criticism for something i have xy years of experience with...but sometimes a certaing kind of attitude can bother me. nevertheless i have no experinece about the implementation of the packaging system |
| 16:40.52 | deni | Walex: well it's not quite that...but okay :P |
| 16:41.14 | *** join/#debian tmh1999 (~tmh1999@gateway/tor-sasl/tmh1999) |
| 16:41.16 | Walex | deni: then just for the sake of argument pretend and ask "why are downgrades not recommended in 'stable'"? |
| 16:41.18 | deni | i don't know how gnome-shell is implemented either...doesn't mean i need to |
| 16:41.25 | martinus | In that case, what to people tend to think is a good method of updating group permissions? |
| 16:41.38 | Walex | martinus: depends a lot to what purpose. |
| 16:41.56 | *** join/#debian Mike______ (~mike@85.186.5.107) |
| 16:41.58 | deni | Walex: i can think of a couple of reasons but ok. what are you trying to tell me? |
| 16:42.00 | Walex | martinus: also consider the effect on any ACL or security module you may be using |
| 16:42.37 | Walex | deni: primarily to be a bit more patient and humour annoying people like me. |
| 16:43.14 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@dpc6744163191.direcpc.com) |
| 16:43.16 | deni | Walex: that's not the answer to "why are downgrades not recommended in 'stable'" |
| 16:43.33 | *** join/#debian darthanubis (~darthanub@unaffiliated/darthanubis) |
| 16:43.52 | *** join/#debian crisscross (~crisscros@122.177.250.209) |
| 16:44.05 | mtn | deni: the horse is dead, you can quit beating it now ;) |
| 16:44.08 | *** join/#debian sifeic (~sifeic@c-75-71-117-103.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 16:44.08 | Walex | if anybody is interested, the reason why downgrades are generally not recommended in stable is that regrettably packages come with pre-post install scripts that can be 2000 lines long and can do many weird things, and they are not tested for downgrades. |
| 16:44.14 | *** join/#debian vol4ko (null@unaffiliated/vol4ko) |
| 16:44.23 | *** join/#debian Anarchic (~Anarchic@getlegit.eu) |
| 16:44.54 | *** join/#debian Jonny135 (~Jonny135@86.111.137.254) |
| 16:46.37 | deni | Walex: so you wanted to teach me about pre-post install scripts? there is no need to do that. but thank you anyway. |
| 16:46.42 | Walex | this applies to most packaging systems around. Basically testing these very hairy scripts for any combination of current-tobeinstalled versions is too hard. They are also especially dangerous for downgrades, because for example many of these script convert configuration and data files from one version to another, but only upwards |
| 16:46.43 | deni | mtn: i know. i'll stop now. |
| 16:47.00 | *** join/#debian Kar- (~aaron@rrcs-96-10-101-202.se.biz.rr.com) |
| 16:47.16 | deni | Walex: all of that makes sense indeed. thank you. |
| 16:47.42 | *** part/#debian richac (cooloutac@ircbouncehouse.com) |
| 16:48.54 | martinus | Walex: Thanks, I'll have to do moar reading. :) |
| 16:49.02 | deni | i really need to setup a screen or bouncer for oftc as i have for freenode...makes it hard to ask question on debian-next when i'm rebooting all the time |
| 16:49.45 | Walex | martinus: reading is always useful because these issues can be pretty subtle... |
| 16:49.55 | *** part/#debian crisscross (~crisscros@122.177.250.209) |
| 16:50.01 | Walex | martinus: anyhow, there is an additional suggestion, so hang on |
| 16:50.11 | *** join/#debian rodroma_ (~Rodroma@186.58.147.29) |
| 16:50.20 | *** join/#debian richac (cooloutac@ircbouncehouse.com) |
| 16:50.34 | Walex | martinus: the UNIX permission/identification system is designed for generality, for implementing many different policies. |
| 16:50.41 | *** join/#debian alexei (~amgarchin@p4FD62C40.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 16:50.42 | *** join/#debian mordy__ (~mnunberg@71.9.102.54) |
| 16:50.49 | *** join/#debian metaphysician (~matrix@unaffiliated/meta-coder) |
| 16:50.59 | martinus | deni: I started using tmux after being a long-time screen user. tmux seems to handle split screen better but there's not a lot to differentiate them (in my own experience). |
| 16:51.23 | deni | martinus: yeah i know....i've used it...didn't stick for some reason |
| 16:51.47 | *** join/#debian galex|713 (~user@2a02-8428-00c4-a300-6169-baf5-c76e-437f.rev.sfr.net) |
| 16:51.55 | Walex | martinus: in general the policies are much simpler than the full generality of what the permission/identification subsystems allows. So your first step should be to defined a policy, a general logic which you want your system to enforce... |
| 16:52.06 | *** join/#debian Zzeiss (~wsy@68-246-93-196.pools.spcsdns.net) |
| 16:52.35 | *** join/#debian ph88 (5597cc14@gateway/web/freenode/ip.85.151.204.20) |
| 16:52.48 | martinus | Walex: tbf, I really need a solid primer in best-practice for nix security. I guess I've pretty much looked into each aspect of the OS as and when I've needed it rather than taking a structured approach. |
| 16:53.34 | Walex | martinus: to a large extent though your policy is determined by what your users are prepared to tolerate... |
| 16:53.38 | *** join/#debian pmart (6df1a2ca@gateway/web/freenode/ip.109.241.162.202) |
| 16:54.12 | *** join/#debian dezgot (~dezgot@triad.ece.umd.edu) |
| 16:54.28 | Walex | martinus: so a large part of it is really something that you cannot choose. |
| 16:55.19 | *** join/#debian galex-713 (~user@2a02-8428-00c4-a300-6169-baf5-c76e-437f.rev.sfr.net) |
| 16:55.29 | mordy__ | hi folks. i was wondering if there's any example of a self-installing third party repo; similar to how EPEL installs itself on EL systems. |
| 16:55.51 | *** join/#debian clib21 (c607f163@gateway/web/freenode/ip.198.7.241.99) |
| 16:55.54 | martinus | Walex: I should clarify (or state in the first instance) that this is for a few home family PC's and a media server. I recognise that the same principles apply, though. |
| 16:55.54 | *** join/#debian abadger1999 (~abadger19@65.78.164.85) |
| 16:56.02 | *** join/#debian Sir_Designer (~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug) |
| 16:56.39 | abadger1999 | Question about apt-get and wildcards if anyone has time: |
| 16:56.53 | abadger1999 | I see in the man pages that the package name can be specified wiht regex's |
| 16:57.06 | pmart | how can I debug starting an executable from cmd.exe? I'm starting BIOSUpdate.exe which is a GUI PE32 executable that supposed to update my firmware. But after starting it the shell returns immediately as if nothing happened. |
| 16:57.07 | rgr | So why over think it? Give every one read access and you're done. its not rocket science unless you want user123 not to see daddy's special videos for example. |
| 16:57.09 | abadger1999 | and experimentation shows that the version can also be specified with wildcards. |
| 16:57.23 | abadger1999 | but it looks like the version wildcards are not regexes? |
| 16:57.49 | abadger1999 | Is it documented anywhere what is legal in the version wildcarding implementation? |
| 16:57.56 | Walex | abadger1999: just use 'aptitude' and your life will be full of light and unicorns :-) |
| 16:58.17 | *** join/#debian angerman (~m@p548C11ED.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 16:58.33 | pmart | i might be missing certain component cause i'm doing this in Windows PE environment. But the bloody thing doesn't even bother to complain about what it needs. |
| 16:58.43 | Walex | pmart: I suspect that can only work under a DOS clone like FreeDOS |
| 16:58.57 | Walex | pmart: this channel is #Debian :-) |
| 16:58.57 | *** join/#debian Trendrrrr (~Trendrrrr@23.97.227.137) |
| 16:59.00 | pmart | ups, sorry i thought i'm posting to #windows |
| 16:59.03 | *** join/#debian cleme1mp_ (~mclement@96-36-24-135.static.aldl.mi.charter.com) |
| 16:59.04 | *** join/#debian tcpman (~tcpman@31-209-196-31.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is) |
| 16:59.32 | abadger1999 | Walex: heh :-) I'm actually working mostly with the python-apt API. |
| 16:59.37 | *** join/#debian karimb (kboumedhel@nat/redhat/x-pidphqcnbslesdof) |
| 16:59.56 | *** join/#debian collizion (~j@unaffiliated/collizion) |
| 17:00.09 | *** join/#debian ytrezq (~0x0EDFADE@86.128.100.84.rev.sfr.net) |
| 17:00.13 | ytrezq | Hello, How I can add a a unicode range in FontForge? http://superuser.com/q/833364/282033 |
| 17:01.01 | *** join/#debian ToApolytoXaos (~ToApolyto@46.21.62.128) |
| 17:01.05 | *** join/#debian shibboleth (~user@gateway/tor-sasl/shibboleth) |
| 17:01.15 | *** join/#debian collizion (~j@unaffiliated/collizion) |
| 17:01.17 | kerneloopz | how do I add TLS_FALLBACK_SCSV to lighttpd? I've disabled SSL 3.0 but would like to add that as well. SSL Labs says TLS_FALLBACK_SCSV is not supported. |
| 17:02.09 | *** part/#debian mordy__ (~mnunberg@71.9.102.54) |
| 17:02.27 | *** join/#debian tharkun (~0@unaffiliated/tharkun) |
| 17:02.41 | *** join/#debian Seto_Kaiba (~Hunterkll@50.242.254.37) |
| 17:03.45 | *** join/#debian infinitum (~infinitum@df-001f-1a30-0005.10ge.i6.sungai.nl) |
| 17:04.09 | *** join/#debian igi (~igi@14.146.39.42) |
| 17:04.26 | *** join/#debian galex-713 (~user@2a02-8428-00c4-a300-6169-baf5-c76e-437f.rev.sfr.net) |
| 17:05.42 | *** join/#debian Trendrrrr (~Trendrrrr@23.97.227.137) |
| 17:06.43 | *** join/#debian ndrei (~avo@195.6.194.17) |
| 17:08.11 | *** join/#debian zerick (~eocrospom@190.118.16.131) |
| 17:09.42 | Walex | ytrezq: very specialist questions don't work well on IRC, you may be luckier on some FontForge relared mailing list |
| 17:09.54 | *** join/#debian JNixx (~JNixx@16.175.251.212.customer.cdi.no) |
| 17:10.06 | *** join/#debian Adephit (~Adephit@a89-155-74-152.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 17:10.41 | *** join/#debian tmh1999 (~tmh1999@gateway/tor-sasl/tmh1999) |
| 17:11.14 | *** join/#debian rustyraptor (~rustyrapt@5.108.11.126) |
| 17:12.03 | *** join/#debian n0name (~n0name@46.35.160.170) |
| 17:12.48 | *** join/#debian K3N (~K3N@unaffiliated/k3n) |
| 17:13.03 | *** join/#debian Trendrrrr (~Trendrrrr@23.97.227.137) |
| 17:13.05 | *** part/#debian engblom (~user@unaffiliated/engblom) |
| 17:13.15 | *** join/#debian huayra (~ruben@ubuntu/member/hubuntu) |
| 17:14.15 | *** join/#debian K|nG (~nit@82.114.94.94) |
| 17:14.16 | *** join/#debian K|nG (~nit@fedora/KiNG) |
| 17:14.37 | *** join/#debian fishsponge__ (~fishspong@212.44.16.158.ip.redstone-isp.net) |
| 17:15.17 | *** join/#debian edoardo (~edoardo@host5-194-dynamic.15-87-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 17:15.29 | edoardo | what's the best filesystem for a NAS? |
| 17:15.45 | edoardo | everything's linux based, so no problems using ext4 |
| 17:15.55 | *** join/#debian K|nG (~nit@82.114.94.94) |
| 17:15.55 | *** join/#debian K|nG (~nit@fedora/KiNG) |
| 17:16.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1611] by debhelper |
| 17:16.33 | *** join/#debian NixMD (~irssi@unaffiliated/timmyt) |
| 17:17.06 | *** join/#debian superusr (~usr@cm56-159-73.liwest.at) |
| 17:17.34 | *** join/#debian richac (cooloutac@unaffiliated/richac) |
| 17:17.56 | *** join/#debian ron-slc (~Ron@173-165-129-125-utah.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 17:18.52 | *** join/#debian fishsponge (~fishspong@212.44.16.158.ip.redstone-isp.net) |
| 17:18.55 | *** join/#debian Miesco (~mugsy@209.42.113.233) |
| 17:19.05 | *** part/#debian Scramblejams (~Scramblej@ip174-65-75-5.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 17:19.17 | *** join/#debian exhibitor (~j7@unaffiliated/jose1974) |
| 17:19.28 | *** join/#debian drywheat (~bernhard@rrcs-24-227-130-234.sw.biz.rr.com) |
| 17:19.37 | *** join/#debian Devon__ (~Devon_@63.214.236.169) |
| 17:19.41 | *** join/#debian jrm2k6 (~jrm2k6@nl8x.mullvad.net) |
| 17:19.54 | drywheat | is it possible to perform an `apt-get dist-upgrade` to a specific minor version? |
| 17:20.09 | drywheat | specifically, i want to upgrade from 7.4 to 7.6 |
| 17:20.16 | *** join/#debian Trendrrrr (~Trendrrrr@23.97.227.137) |
| 17:20.30 | heurist` | drywheat: no, minor versions do not exist, they are a figment. |
| 17:20.41 | *** join/#debian nell (~raz@unaffiliated/alusion) |
| 17:20.50 | nell | id debian going to fork from systemd |
| 17:21.03 | *** join/#debian metaphysician (~matrix@unaffiliated/meta-coder) |
| 17:21.33 | *** join/#debian mennea (~textual@31.210.187.15) |
| 17:21.42 | drywheat | heurist`: could you please elaborate, i'm not sure i catch your meaning |
| 17:22.00 | heurist` | drywheat: there is no such thing as 7 |
| 17:22.02 | heurist` | .6 |
| 17:22.22 | *** join/#debian staylor (~staylor@mail.au-zone.com) |
| 17:22.27 | heurist` | drywheat: there is only the current stable version. use that. |
| 17:22.32 | *** join/#debian roost (~roost@unaffiliated/roost) |
| 17:22.38 | *** join/#debian bollo (~bollo@user195.85-195-8.netatonce.net) |
| 17:22.39 | mtn | drywheat: the point releases are for install media. if you upgrade any version of wheezy, you get the latest files. |
| 17:23.05 | *** join/#debian Aeterne (~quassel@cm-84.208.95.235.getinternet.no) |
| 17:23.16 | edoardo | SSDs on Debian: do they work? |
| 17:23.24 | drywheat | so a `dist-upgrade` should be adequate |
| 17:23.37 | heurist` | drywheat: yes, that will get you up to date |
| 17:23.43 | mtn | drywheat: upgrade would be adequate |
| 17:24.01 | jhutchins_wk | edoardo: Of course they do. |
| 17:24.07 | *** join/#debian rodroma (~rodroma@186.58.147.29) |
| 17:24.22 | edoardo | jhutchins_wk: do i need to take "precautions"? |
| 17:24.36 | edoardo | like to wear them less etc... |
| 17:24.45 | *** join/#debian Senji (~Senji@79-100-64-136.btc-net.bg) |
| 17:24.51 | *** join/#debian LRN (~LRN@broadband-95-84-200-6.nationalcablenetworks.ru) |
| 17:24.53 | jhutchins_wk | edoardo: Not for modern drive, no. |
| 17:24.58 | rodroma | noob question here |
| 17:25.03 | *** join/#debian calisto (~Icedove@unaffiliated/calisto) |
| 17:25.08 | *** join/#debian AimHere (~bod@cpc6-sgyl33-2-0-cust77.sgyl.cable.virginm.net) |
| 17:25.08 | edoardo | perfect |
| 17:25.16 | *** join/#debian Miesco (~mugsy@209.42.113.201) |
| 17:25.18 | edoardo | what folder should i put on the ssd? |
| 17:25.19 | rodroma | id like to make a script for mounting a drive in /media/ on startup |
| 17:25.24 | *** join/#debian Senji (~Senji@79-100-64-136.btc-net.bg) |
| 17:25.25 | edoardo | everything but /home? |
| 17:25.32 | edoardo | that's how i would do, but i don't know... |
| 17:26.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1619] by debhelper |
| 17:26.03 | heurist` | rodroma: can you not use fstab? |
| 17:26.07 | *** join/#debian nikio_ (~K@50728114.static.ziggozakelijk.nl) |
| 17:26.13 | mtn | rodroma: you use /etc/fstab for mounting drives at bootup |
| 17:26.19 | *** join/#debian harobed (~harobed@ANancy-652-1-282-193.w90-39.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 17:26.32 | *** join/#debian Senji (~Senji@79-100-64-136.btc-net.bg) |
| 17:27.21 | mtn | rodroma: https://wiki.debian.org/fstab |
| 17:27.32 | *** join/#debian Trendrrrr (~Trendrrrr@23.97.227.137) |
| 17:27.51 | *** join/#debian Senji (~Senji@79-100-64-136.btc-net.bg) |
| 17:28.18 | *** join/#debian lkiesow (~lkiesow@lvps83-169-36-131.dedicated.hosteurope.de) |
| 17:28.27 | *** join/#debian infinitum (~infinitum@df-001f-1a30-0005.10ge.i6.sungai.nl) |
| 17:28.36 | *** join/#debian Senji (~Senji@79-100-64-136.btc-net.bg) |
| 17:29.03 | *** join/#debian aNnel (~Nnel@host86-189-1-123.range86-189.btcentralplus.com) |
| 17:29.15 | *** join/#debian Senji (~Senji@79-100-64-136.btc-net.bg) |
| 17:29.56 | *** join/#debian Senji (~Senji@79-100-64-136.btc-net.bg) |
| 17:30.25 | *** join/#debian wildc4rd (~nick@91.84.114.50) |
| 17:30.32 | *** join/#debian Senji (~Senji@79-100-64-136.btc-net.bg) |
| 17:30.38 | *** join/#debian kpease_ (~kpease@72.22.182.162) |
| 17:31.11 | *** join/#debian Senji (~Senji@79-100-64-136.btc-net.bg) |
| 17:31.17 | *** join/#debian corey84- (~Corey84@unaffiliated/corey84) |
| 17:31.29 | *** join/#debian hellschreiber (sid17037@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-suwerlpalavhgszb) |
| 17:31.43 | *** join/#debian Uber-Ich (~lamphu@216.67.162.235) |
| 17:31.51 | *** join/#debian Senji (~Senji@79-100-64-136.btc-net.bg) |
| 17:32.30 | *** join/#debian Senji (~Senji@79-100-64-136.btc-net.bg) |
| 17:32.39 | *** join/#debian stealthii (sid17385@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wivsholqefxmkejc) |
| 17:33.03 | *** join/#debian wcfields (~keynull@209.36.40.50) |
| 17:33.04 | *** join/#debian trvz (sid17829@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-lrglbsegylhrlixy) |
| 17:33.08 | *** join/#debian Senji (~Senji@79-100-64-136.btc-net.bg) |
| 17:33.42 | *** join/#debian Dawid12373 (5ef0107f@wikipedia/Dawid12373) |
| 17:33.47 | *** join/#debian Senji (~Senji@79-100-64-136.btc-net.bg) |
| 17:34.09 | MrAlexanB | i have had some trouble with mounting samba (using cifs) Problem has been there for a while now, and occurs often (2-4 times pr 24hour). It could be third party apps using the samba mount, but can i get a pinpoint to what logfile to monitor pls |
| 17:34.26 | *** join/#debian Senji (~Senji@79-100-64-136.btc-net.bg) |
| 17:34.33 | MrAlexanB | trying to ls -l terminal app freezes |
| 17:34.46 | *** join/#debian Trendrrrr (~Trendrrrr@23.97.227.137) |
| 17:35.02 | *** join/#debian Crabunhador (~Crabunhad@235.Red-79-157-115.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 17:35.05 | *** join/#debian Senji (~Senji@79-100-64-136.btc-net.bg) |
| 17:35.07 | MrAlexanB | restart hangs on freezes only in the /mnt/smba that is |
| 17:35.23 | *** join/#debian jrm2k6 (~jrm2k6@de1x.mullvad.net) |
| 17:35.45 | *** join/#debian Senji (~Senji@79-100-64-136.btc-net.bg) |
| 17:36.24 | *** join/#debian Senji (~Senji@79-100-64-136.btc-net.bg) |
| 17:36.39 | *** join/#debian ThKo (~ThKo@p4FED4EB2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:37.03 | *** join/#debian Senji (~Senji@79-100-64-136.btc-net.bg) |
| 17:37.14 | *** join/#debian roboman2444 (~roboman24@unaffiliated/roboman2444) |
| 17:37.42 | *** join/#debian Senji (~Senji@79-100-64-136.btc-net.bg) |
| 17:37.45 | jhutchins_wk | MrAlexanB: Network problems? |
| 17:38.23 | *** join/#debian Senji (~Senji@79-100-64-136.btc-net.bg) |
| 17:38.42 | MrAlexanB | jhutchins_wk i thought that too. but i have another debian machine under the same netmask working flawlessly, also all the windows machines outside the subnet works fine as well. |
| 17:38.56 | *** join/#debian jareddlc (~jareddlc@64-142-88-9.dedicated.static.sonic.net) |
| 17:38.56 | Dawid12373 | Welcome, I'm trying to install debian in virtualbox, but I have a problem, it went to step install grub, but it can't do it. There is a critical error. I was trying to install lilo, or no boot manager, but it also ends in critical error. What can I do with it to not install second time? Log:http://i.imgur.com/CWfHiYa.png?1 It's debian 7.7.0 amd 64 net install iso. |
| 17:39.02 | *** join/#debian Senji (~Senji@79-100-64-136.btc-net.bg) |
| 17:39.11 | *** join/#debian lift (~lift@2a04:1980:3100:1aac:21b:21ff:feda:4ca7) |
| 17:39.40 | *** join/#debian Senji (~Senji@79-100-64-136.btc-net.bg) |
| 17:40.12 | *** join/#debian corey84- (~Corey84@unaffiliated/corey84) |
| 17:40.14 | *** join/#debian harobed (~harobed@ANancy-652-1-282-193.w90-39.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 17:40.17 | *** join/#debian smoothcode (smoothcode@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-wrpgoljgwfmmkkpd) |
| 17:40.19 | *** join/#debian Senji (~Senji@79-100-64-136.btc-net.bg) |
| 17:40.37 | *** join/#debian theotherstupidgu (~theothers@41.32.18.143) |
| 17:40.45 | *** join/#debian preller (~preller@unaffiliated/preller) |
| 17:40.54 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@c-50-184-13-38.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 17:41.00 | *** join/#debian Exagone313 (~exa@ewd.ovh) |
| 17:41.08 | *** join/#debian marceloamorim (~marcelo@189-90-192-72.isimples.com.br) |
| 17:41.11 | *** join/#debian Trendrrrr (~Trendrrrr@23.97.227.137) |
| 17:41.13 | *** join/#debian Bierdieb (~bierdieb@p4FE0546F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:41.15 | *** part/#debian marceloamorim (~marcelo@189-90-192-72.isimples.com.br) |
| 17:41.41 | *** join/#debian jonno11 (~jonno11@95.147.161.196) |
| 17:41.53 | *** join/#debian Senji (~Senji@79-100-64-136.btc-net.bg) |
| 17:42.27 | *** join/#debian use_zfs_yo (uid22802@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ptgkydfmsnwaqlzm) |
| 17:42.32 | *** join/#debian Senji (~Senji@79-100-64-136.btc-net.bg) |
| 17:43.11 | *** join/#debian Senji (~Senji@79-100-64-136.btc-net.bg) |
| 17:43.28 | *** join/#debian k4tfish (~k4t@web.reniced.net) |
| 17:43.38 | heurist` | Dawid12373: do you have enough space on the virtual drive and the host's drive? |
| 17:43.45 | *** join/#debian jonno11 (~jonno11@95.147.161.196) |
| 17:43.50 | *** join/#debian Senji (~Senji@79-100-64-136.btc-net.bg) |
| 17:44.03 | *** join/#debian Ricardo__ (~rick@unaffiliated/ricardo--/x-7903455) |
| 17:44.06 | *** join/#debian sl3dge______ (sid24414@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-oozjpdlracrgmnlc) |
| 17:44.20 | Dawid12373 | heurist`: I'm trying to install it on 3,5GB pendrive. |
| 17:44.29 | *** join/#debian Senji (~Senji@79-100-64-136.btc-net.bg) |
| 17:44.55 | heurist` | Dawid12373: maybe you ran out of space, or maybe the drive is broken. |
| 17:45.07 | *** join/#debian Senji (~Senji@79-100-64-136.btc-net.bg) |
| 17:45.21 | *** join/#debian Mac101 (~Mac@cpc11-lanc6-2-0-cust22.3-3.cable.virginm.net) |
| 17:45.23 | *** join/#debian GJdan (~dan@d154-20-234-134.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 17:45.47 | *** join/#debian Senji (~Senji@79-100-64-136.btc-net.bg) |
| 17:46.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1627] by debhelper |
| 17:46.13 | Dawid12373 | heurist`:Maybe, I will try with another drive, can I go back to previous stage of installation from menu and simple change mounting points? |
| 17:46.23 | *** join/#debian Senji (~Senji@79-100-64-136.btc-net.bg) |
| 17:46.24 | *** join/#debian lostcoffee (~lostcoffe@gateway/tor-sasl/lostcoffee) |
| 17:47.00 | *** join/#debian Senji (~Senji@79-100-64-136.btc-net.bg) |
| 17:47.01 | *** join/#debian rodroma (~rodroma@186.58.147.29) |
| 17:47.12 | heurist` | Dawid12373: I would not advise trying that, but you might get lucky. just start again, it is only the copying of files that takes any time, the rest is quick. |
| 17:47.50 | *** join/#debian Mike9863 (~Mike9863@192.12.88.249) |
| 17:48.08 | Dawid12373 | heurist`: And downloading, I should had downloaded normal cd. Is there not netinstall with no graphical environment? |
| 17:48.15 | *** join/#debian Trendrrrr (~Trendrrrr@23.97.227.137) |
| 17:48.36 | *** join/#debian EntropyArchive (~Thunderbi@198.86.76.199) |
| 17:49.16 | *** join/#debian geothom777 (~Thunderbi@79.107.202.150) |
| 17:49.35 | heurist` | Dawid12373: you can choose to not install any graphical environment from any of the ISOs. |
| 17:50.33 | *** join/#debian Gibby_ (~Gibby@184.170.249.223) |
| 17:50.34 | *** join/#debian ndrei (~avo@195.6.194.17) |
| 17:50.40 | Dawid12373 | heurist`: I know, but downloading. However I went back to searching for disks and it just can't find anything, I will check is everything ok with usb, and restart. Thanks for help. |
| 17:50.53 | *** join/#debian Arrowmaster (~Arrowmast@WoWUIDev/WoWAce/ResponsibleForEverythingAndNothing/Arrowmaster) |
| 17:51.37 | *** join/#debian mennea (~textual@31.210.187.15) |
| 17:51.56 | *** join/#debian Eduard_Munteanu (~Eduard_Mu@5-12-117-105.residential.rdsnet.ro) |
| 17:52.39 | *** join/#debian Darryl_ (uid29682@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-soasbakmvjscvbdr) |
| 17:52.50 | *** join/#debian sdfvsfgvsdf (~bauasdgwg@37.254.229.151) |
| 17:53.12 | *** join/#debian infinitum (~infinitum@df-001f-1a30-0005.10ge.i6.sungai.nl) |
| 17:53.34 | *** join/#debian vivid (~vivid@c-76-104-215-159.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 17:53.34 | *** join/#debian vivid (~vivid@unaffiliated/vivid) |
| 17:54.03 | *** join/#debian yuu (~yuu@61-27-208-223.rev.home.ne.jp) |
| 17:54.07 | *** join/#debian vivid (~vivid@c-76-104-215-159.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 17:54.08 | *** join/#debian vivid (~vivid@unaffiliated/vivid) |
| 17:54.37 | *** join/#debian Trendrrrr (~Trendrrrr@23.97.227.137) |
| 17:55.01 | *** join/#debian genpaku (~genpaku@107.191.100.185) |
| 17:55.13 | *** join/#debian skyres (~Skyres@catv-86-101-147-141.catv.broadband.hu) |
| 17:55.17 | *** part/#debian Bierdieb (~bierdieb@p4FE0546F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:55.38 | *** join/#debian Mike9863 (~Mike9863@nat-alex-runet-out-8.rutgers.edu) |
| 17:57.37 | *** join/#debian Guest65904 (~tcpman@31-209-196-31.dsl.dynamic.simnet.is) |
| 17:57.43 | *** join/#debian Bierdieb (~bierdieb@p4FE0546F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:00.40 | *** join/#debian bachler (~bachler@62.101.40.39) |
| 18:01.54 | *** join/#debian Trendrrrr (~Trendrrrr@23.97.227.137) |
| 18:02.01 | *** join/#debian ckt1g3r (~0x4n4rch0@unaffiliated/ckt1g3r) |
| 18:02.11 | *** join/#debian alexei (~amgarchin@p4FD62C40.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:02.54 | *** join/#debian master_of_master (~master_of@p4FD7B950.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:03.15 | *** join/#debian Modeuse (kvirc@x14m13a.wh7.tu-dresden.de) |
| 18:03.46 | *** join/#debian ndrei (~avo@195.6.194.17) |
| 18:03.51 | *** join/#debian Devon__ (~Devon_@63.214.236.169) |
| 18:04.13 | *** join/#debian L235 (sid41243@wikipedia/Lixxx235) |
| 18:04.15 | *** join/#debian mirco (~mirco@ip-176-198-211-199.hsi05.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 18:04.33 | *** join/#debian asakura0 (~asakura@gateway/tor-sasl/asakura) |
| 18:06.46 | *** join/#debian Streusel (~Anonymous@unaffiliated/streusel) |
| 18:07.01 | *** join/#debian eshlox (sid44222@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-agezusbcuedrbgat) |
| 18:07.53 | *** join/#debian Sir_Designer (~Sir_Desig@wikipedia/mareklug) |
| 18:08.04 | *** join/#debian CEnnis91 (uid3543@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rxnclwidjgydhoob) |
| 18:08.59 | *** join/#debian Trendrrrr (~Trendrrrr@23.97.227.137) |
| 18:09.36 | *** join/#debian meaneye (~meaneye@5.144.49.70) |
| 18:10.25 | *** join/#debian eeb3 (~eeb3@50-89-61-140.res.bhn.net) |
| 18:11.00 | *** join/#debian ron-slc (~Ron@173-165-129-125-utah.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 18:11.14 | *** join/#debian everamzah (~james@cpe-72-224-186-195.maine.res.rr.com) |
| 18:11.19 | *** join/#debian ckt1g3r (~0x4n4rch0@unaffiliated/ckt1g3r) |
| 18:11.23 | *** join/#debian Paradisee (~quassel@2.239.28.120) |
| 18:11.44 | *** join/#debian supay (sid47179@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-samufohkeisxcqxa) |
| 18:12.00 | *** join/#debian myster (myster@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-xjtkedsemgamnmkj) |
| 18:12.24 | *** join/#debian karakedi (~eAC53C340@unaffiliated/orphan) |
| 18:12.24 | *** join/#debian Knaldgas (~pdj@dhcp-5-103-242-62.seas-nve.net) |
| 18:12.42 | *** join/#debian Uber-Ich (~lamphu@216.67.162.235) |
| 18:13.29 | *** join/#debian Trendrrrr (~Trendrrrr@23.97.227.137) |
| 18:14.03 | *** join/#debian calisto (~Icedove@unaffiliated/calisto) |
| 18:15.08 | MrAlexanB | if you want an action performed at startup you can add to rc.local, but where do you add acion if you want something performed at reboot shutdown. |
| 18:16.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1637] by debhelper |
| 18:17.28 | rgr | rc6.d |
| 18:17.28 | *** join/#debian johnnyb_ (~johnnyb@2a00:1028:838c:5ae:222:faff:fe4d:2680) |
| 18:17.38 | MrAlexanB | rgr thx! |
| 18:17.56 | *** join/#debian infinitum (~infinitum@df-001f-1a30-0005.10ge.i6.sungai.nl) |
| 18:17.58 | *** join/#debian k4tfish (~k4t@web.reniced.net) |
| 18:18.07 | MrAlexanB | rgr i have to ask one more thing. In rc.local; will the actions be performed at all runlevels or just at startup ? |
| 18:18.19 | *** join/#debian n-st (~n-st@ipbcc053ce.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) |
| 18:18.20 | *** join/#debian aNnel (~Nnel@host86-189-1-123.range86-189.btcentralplus.com) |
| 18:18.26 | *** join/#debian nitii (~nit@82.114.94.94) |
| 18:18.59 | *** join/#debian DammitJim (~DammitJim@173.227.148.6) |
| 18:19.17 | *** join/#debian IIT (~IIT@unaffiliated/xtriz) |
| 18:20.15 | *** join/#debian Trendrrrr (~Trendrrrr@23.97.227.137) |
| 18:21.26 | *** join/#debian k4tfi5h (~k4t@web.reniced.net) |
| 18:21.35 | *** join/#debian mennea (~textual@31.210.187.15) |
| 18:24.03 | *** join/#debian joncrunchbang (~joncrunch@cm-84.210.13.135.getinternet.no) |
| 18:24.09 | eeb3 | Hello, I am trying to use SystemRescueCd to make an image of a hard drive that is failing (HP HD Error 303/Dell HD Error 7) Reading a particular guide for making an HD Image, am wondering if the following command would be correct: |
| 18:24.09 | *** join/#debian cleme1mp (~mclement@96-36-24-135.static.aldl.mi.charter.com) |
| 18:24.17 | eeb3 | "dd if=/dev/sdb of=/dev/sda3/Jdisk.img" (sdb is a failing drive ntfs)(sda3 is a ntfs partion large enough to hold the image) to copy the entire disk to a file on a temp drive, until a new drive can be gotten. |
| 18:25.00 | *** join/#debian zay (~Zay@host224-136-dynamic.211-62-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 18:25.02 | *** join/#debian k4tfish (~k4t@web.reniced.net) |
| 18:25.38 | *** join/#debian natsukao (~natsukao@dynamic-adsl-94-37-198-5.clienti.tiscali.it) |
| 18:25.49 | *** join/#debian format_c (~format_c@2001:4dd0:ff00:8421:6e62:6dff:fe4a:e47d) |
| 18:26.38 | *** join/#debian schu-r1 (~Thunderbi@82-149-107-2.wco.wellcom.at) |
| 18:26.48 | *** join/#debian jrm2k6 (~jrm2k6@104-51-78-144.lightspeed.sndgca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 18:27.26 | *** join/#debian k4tfi5h (~k4t@web.reniced.net) |
| 18:28.38 | *** join/#debian _Paul (~Paul@p5B0F44A2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:28.39 | *** join/#debian Trendrrrr (~Trendrrrr@23.97.227.137) |
| 18:30.05 | Blokker | eeb3, that command is not correct and will probably fail since /dev/sda3 is not a directory |
| 18:30.25 | Blokker | you need to mount the partition and then write to the mount point |
| 18:30.53 | *** join/#debian huglester (~quassel@78.157.71.116) |
| 18:31.03 | *** join/#debian josokr (~Thunderbi@mobile-internet-5d6adf-5.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 18:32.40 | *** join/#debian Faisal (~IRCSHOARE@212.17.34.54) |
| 18:33.06 | brentaarnold | What's the best way for installing video codecs for VLC in Debian 7.7? |
| 18:33.19 | *** join/#debian jrm2k6 (~jrm2k6@de3x.mullvad.net) |
| 18:33.33 | *** join/#debian thunderrd (~thunderrd@116.58.237.91) |
| 18:35.41 | *** join/#debian Trendrrrr (~Trendrrrr@23.97.227.137) |
| 18:35.43 | *** join/#debian joo-_ (~joo@55e9f478.rev.dansknet.dk) |
| 18:36.13 | *** join/#debian ruukasu (~ruukasu@unaffiliated/ruukasu) |
| 18:36.20 | *** join/#debian bart_b (~bart_b@unaffiliated/bart-b/x-7974760) |
| 18:36.42 | *** join/#debian metallic (~debsan@90.Red-88-7-194.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 18:37.13 | *** join/#debian joo-_ (~joo@55e9f478.rev.dansknet.dk) |
| 18:37.28 | *** join/#debian Almtesh (~Almtesh@unaffiliated/almtesh) |
| 18:37.30 | brontosaurusrex | brentaarnold: afaik one does not install codecs for vlc |
| 18:38.14 | *** join/#debian djbkd (~djbkd@4.35.166.4) |
| 18:39.26 | *** join/#debian Greylocks (~Greylocks@unaffiliated/greylocks) |
| 18:40.22 | rgr | dont wonder anything when using dd - that's idiocy. Find a prepakaged solution out there ;) |
| 18:40.36 | rgr | ie "this is how you use dd for this" and then double check the switches. |
| 18:40.38 | *** join/#debian Senj_ (~Senji@79-100-72-241.btc-net.bg) |
| 18:40.46 | *** join/#debian LinuxGuy2020 (~mark@cpe-65-25-54-189.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 18:40.51 | *** join/#debian CutMeOwnThroat (~boo@unaffiliated/iridos) |
| 18:40.54 | *** join/#debian haxi (~quassel@46.246.45.226) |
| 18:41.16 | *** join/#debian Jikan (~Jikan@2001:41d0:8:7844::1) |
| 18:41.24 | *** join/#debian RxTx127 (RxTx127@195-132-236-121.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 18:41.41 | *** join/#debian Nnel (~Nnel@host86-189-1-123.range86-189.btcentralplus.com) |
| 18:41.45 | rgr | eeb3: you need to determine what you really want. To back up the files on the failing disk or direct copy each and every byte from the drive to another one. |
| 18:42.36 | *** join/#debian Senj__ (~Senji@79-100-71-100.btc-net.bg) |
| 18:42.38 | eeb3 | Well just that windows is choking on the harddrive cause it failing apparently. (my step-brother decided to get too angry at the laptop) |
| 18:42.43 | *** join/#debian infinitum (~infinitum@df-001f-1a30-0005.10ge.i6.sungai.nl) |
| 18:42.54 | martinus | bye everyone, thanks again for the advice. |
| 18:42.55 | *** join/#debian jrm2k6 (~jrm2k6@de1x.mullvad.net) |
| 18:42.57 | *** part/#debian martinus (~martinus@host31-54-188-147.range31-54.btcentralplus.com) |
| 18:43.00 | *** join/#debian Trendrrrr (~Trendrrrr@23.97.227.137) |
| 18:43.15 | *** join/#debian drywheat (~bernhard@rrcs-24-227-130-234.sw.biz.rr.com) |
| 18:43.16 | *** join/#debian faw (~Felipe@unaffiliated/faw) |
| 18:43.20 | richac | eeb3: thats laptop abuse! |
| 18:43.34 | LinuxGuy2020 | I have to be honest I am not a huge fan of the way the debian project seperates all the parts of the kernel such as firmware that other distros include in there included kernel. Are there any 3rd party kernels or maybe a set of commands to roll the normal debian kernel package along with all the normal firmware and use that instead of having to install all these peices to get the whole? |
| 18:43.36 | *** join/#debian Ool (~Ool@unaffiliated/ool) |
| 18:43.53 | *** join/#debian Atroc (~chatzilla@62-47-129-171.adsl.highway.telekom.at) |
| 18:44.18 | richac | LinuxGuy2020: i apologize for being a noob and not understanding what you mean, but I must say, debian is the easiest distro to compile a kernel on |
| 18:44.28 | *** join/#debian garyle (~garyle@2601:9:5900:e25:bc73:4efc:f3c8:c9cf) |
| 18:44.29 | Atroc | how can I add my truecrypted windows partition to grub loader. I installed Debian after I encrypted my windows partition |
| 18:44.58 | *** join/#debian natsukao (~natsukao@dynamic-adsl-94-37-223-152.clienti.tiscali.it) |
| 18:44.58 | shingouz | !tell LinuxGuy2020 about kernel mantra |
| 18:45.14 | shingouz | LinuxGuy2020: ymmv. beware. |
| 18:45.39 | eeb3 | I figured a direct copy would be best, but have to wait till the step-brother stops by with the hd he wants to be used, so in the interum figured I'd make an image in the mean time, and then extract from the image to the new drive. |
| 18:46.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1643] by debhelper |
| 18:46.40 | *** join/#debian justanotheruser (~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser) |
| 18:46.54 | *** join/#debian Streusel_ (~Anonymous@s01060026bb6e36e4.vn.shawcable.net) |
| 18:47.02 | LinuxGuy2020 | richac: Well like on other modern distros you install the system and all the drivers and firmware are automagically just there and work. On debian you have to install them all from seperate packages. I think the debian project seperates them out so that the main kernel can stay 100% free as in open source. Maybe I should look into compiling my own kernel I guess. |
| 18:47.11 | *** join/#debian notis (~notis@178.128.15.79.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 18:47.16 | *** join/#debian Streusel_ (~Anonymous@unaffiliated/streusel) |
| 18:47.51 | *** join/#debian diniwed (~gavron@pool-74-108-225-30.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) |
| 18:47.54 | *** join/#debian CHVNX (~CHVNX@unaffiliated/chvnx) |
| 18:47.58 | LinuxGuy2020 | shingouz: Wow that was like major greek. hehe |
| 18:48.05 | *** join/#debian tremon (~aschuring@d594e6a3.dsl.concepts.nl) |
| 18:48.58 | shingouz | LinuxGuy2020: if you did not understand that one, you really should not do a recompile quite yet, you will most probably end up with a non-working kernel |
| 18:49.15 | LinuxGuy2020 | I can see that. Thats what I figured it meant. |
| 18:49.40 | *** join/#debian bluenemo (~bluenemo@unaffiliated/bluenemo) |
| 18:49.58 | *** join/#debian Trendrrrr (~Trendrrrr@23.97.227.137) |
| 18:51.25 | richac | LinuxGuy2020: what drivers are you talking about? |
| 18:51.33 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~Ben__@118-93-23-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) |
| 18:51.38 | *** join/#debian mennea (~textual@31.210.187.15) |
| 18:52.29 | LinuxGuy2020 | richac: wifi for example. Instead of haveing them all in the kernel they split them up into like 20 other packages. I think thats a bit crazy. |
| 18:52.52 | *** join/#debian cyborg (~cyborg@unaffiliated/cyborg) |
| 18:53.04 | shingouz | LinuxGuy2020: i suspect you are talking about the firmware. /msg dpkg firmware |
| 18:53.19 | LinuxGuy2020 | shingouz: yep |
| 18:53.38 | *** join/#debian astr (~astr@79-69-207-177.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 18:53.57 | *** join/#debian Vutral (~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral) |
| 18:53.58 | shingouz | LinuxGuy2020: /msg dpkg firmware |
| 18:54.00 | *** part/#debian Chargen (~Chargen@cluster.xs4all.nl) |
| 18:54.15 | richac | LinuxGuy2020: so your saying there is no opensource driver for that device |
| 18:54.32 | jhutchins_wk | LinuxGuy2020: Actually, Debian doesn't package the kernel any differently than most major distributions. |
| 18:55.05 | jhutchins_wk | LinuxGuy2020: Some of them do automatically install the firmware packages. Debian doesn't to keep licensing consistent. |
| 18:55.07 | richac | wifi is ruthless, i don't think they are even regulated yet |
| 18:55.32 | *** join/#debian phre4k (~phre4k@55d415e1.access.ecotel.net) |
| 18:56.06 | *** join/#debian Permutate (~Permutate@cluster.xs4all.nl) |
| 18:56.07 | *** join/#debian Kismet010 (uid19508@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wrsncrfbsegfcbwm) |
| 18:56.13 | *** join/#debian Pikudoz (~opera@190.222.96.35) |
| 18:56.40 | *** join/#debian Trendrrrr (~Trendrrrr@23.97.227.137) |
| 18:57.10 | *** join/#debian huayra (~ruben@ubuntu/member/hubuntu) |
| 18:57.27 | jhutchins_wk | Most hardware, including wifi, has open source drivers, but some requires a binary blob of firmware that isn't open source. |
| 18:58.06 | richac | https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi |
| 18:58.18 | richac | according to that wiki, there is only one manufacturer they have opensource drivers for.... |
| 18:58.33 | *** join/#debian Permutate (~Permutate@cluster.xs4all.nl) |
| 18:58.38 | *** join/#debian purpur (~steffen@95.89.64.55) |
| 18:59.13 | wols_ | richac: you need to read about firmware vs. driver |
| 18:59.20 | LinuxGuy2020 | richac: Yeah the firmware is what gets me cause they still have them in the repos even though don't include them on the DVDs. For some reason its ok to still host them on there servers though. I don't really see the difference. |
| 18:59.21 | astr | trying to use espeak on debian stable arm. I have pulse audio installed. other apps work but epeak doesn't. fails |
| 18:59.25 | *** join/#debian myster (myster@gateway/shell/elitebnc/x-pieximwittyutvpb) |
| 18:59.46 | wols_ | LinuxGuy2020: no they don't. non-free is a repo but is not debian |
| 19:00.00 | richac | One company which specialises in free software and sells 802.11N USB wifi cards, ThinkPenguin.com, has indicated the availability of free software supported 802.11N USB wifi cards is disappearing. |
| 19:00.26 | LinuxGuy2020 | astr: May I ask what device you are running with a arm chip? is it a raspberry pi? |
| 19:00.28 | *** join/#debian Permutate (~Permutate@cluster.xs4all.nl) |
| 19:00.37 | astr | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:00.44 | *** join/#debian angerman (~m@x590fa8a1.dyn.telefonica.de) |
| 19:00.45 | astr | LinuxGuy2020, olimex lime a10 |
| 19:01.21 | astr | Cannot connect to server socket err = No such file or directory Cannot connect to server request channel |
| 19:01.39 | *** join/#debian Hexeon (kvirc@65.35.176.154) |
| 19:01.39 | *** join/#debian Hexeon (kvirc@unaffiliated/hexeon) |
| 19:01.50 | astr | LinuxGuy2020, armhf I think |
| 19:01.55 | *** join/#debian Kulrak (kulrak@C-59-101-14-246.hay.connect.net.au) |
| 19:01.55 | *** join/#debian Kulrak (kulrak@tlug/member/kulrak) |
| 19:02.09 | *** join/#debian Merixer (~Merixer@46.246.70.70) |
| 19:02.13 | *** join/#debian slurpymcdurpy (~slurpymcd@184-96-142-248.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 19:02.33 | astr | LinuxGuy2020, looks like there is a custom /etc/asound.conf |
| 19:02.42 | LinuxGuy2020 | astr: Cool. I was just curious. I think ARM technology is doing quite well. |
| 19:02.45 | astr | tried disabledi it |
| 19:02.47 | astr | arr |
| 19:02.52 | *** join/#debian Windes (Windes@2a01:e34:ed5f:6a40:159c:c1e9:8b41:f6c5) |
| 19:03.06 | astr | arr well |
| 19:03.24 | *** join/#debian beet0l (~beet0l@cpe-68-174-87-254.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 19:03.26 | *** join/#debian Trendrrrr (~Trendrrrr@23.97.227.137) |
| 19:03.34 | jhutchins_wk | One of the main reasons that wifi needs non-free binaries is that government agencies like the FCC don't want people running it outside of the prescribed channels and power levels. These vary by country, and the hardware is capable of violating them. |
| 19:04.16 | rozie | jhutchins_wk: and how does hardware know in which country oparates? |
| 19:04.26 | *** join/#debian Permutate (~Permutate@cluster.xs4all.nl) |
| 19:04.42 | jhutchins_wk | rozie: By which firmware is loaded. |
| 19:05.13 | rozie | I don't load any external firmware. just Debian one |
| 19:05.26 | *** join/#debian jrm2k6 (~jrm2k6@de1x.mullvad.net) |
| 19:05.29 | *** part/#debian LinuxGuy2020 (~mark@cpe-65-25-54-189.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 19:05.42 | jhutchins_wk | rozie: They don't all use loadable firmware. Different chipsets do it in different ways. |
| 19:06.01 | richac | LinuxGuy2020: i assume your not talking about the firmware on the device, but for the kernel drivers? I dunno, I guess they fell the firmware is their software, as opposed to the non free device drivers |
| 19:06.08 | tdn | I want to start using Debian on my desktop coming from Kubuntu. What is the best way to get started with everyting working from start in Debian? Should I select "Debian Desktop Environment" at the installation Software Selection (tasksel)? Or should I just install KDE via apt-get after installing a base system? |
| 19:06.15 | *** join/#debian metaphysician (~matrix@unaffiliated/meta-coder) |
| 19:06.18 | *** join/#debian wjtaylor (~wjtaylor@50.153.133.9) |
| 19:06.45 | jhutchins_wk | tdn: DDE will give you gnome. |
| 19:06.47 | rozie | jhutchins_wk: but still, somehow they have to rely on information provided by OS |
| 19:06.56 | rozie | or even user input |
| 19:07.03 | *** join/#debian slurpymcdurpy (~slurpymcd@184-96-142-248.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 19:07.25 | *** join/#debian infinitum (~infinitum@df-001f-1a30-0005.10ge.i6.sungai.nl) |
| 19:07.54 | jhutchins_wk | rozie: I've never seen UI for wifi rules, but whatever. Multiple methods, multiple factors. |
| 19:07.54 | wols_ | !tell tdn about install kde |
| 19:08.13 | jhutchins_wk | In any case, it isn't a Debian thing. |
| 19:08.24 | *** join/#debian eristisk (~eristisk@gateway/tor-sasl/eristisk) |
| 19:08.31 | wols_ | there are programs you can use to tell the wlan card in which country you are. never worked well for me, but they are there. and the kernel has infrastructure for it all |
| 19:08.35 | *** join/#debian Permutate (~Permutate@cluster.xs4all.nl) |
| 19:08.54 | tdn | jhutchins_wk, wols_: Yeah, I think I need more than just KDE. I mean, I will need various graphics drivers, etc. to work. This is what I currently get from running Kubuntu on Desktop. |
| 19:09.22 | wols_ | tdn: you install stuff via apt, just like you did in kubuntu |
| 19:09.25 | *** join/#debian paranoids (~markus@amd.paranoids.at) |
| 19:09.27 | jhutchins_wk | tdn: Right, kde will pull in what you need. |
| 19:09.42 | tdn | jhutchins_wk, ok. Thanks. |
| 19:10.20 | *** join/#debian Trendrrrr (~Trendrrrr@23.97.227.137) |
| 19:11.07 | rozie | jhutchins_wk: http://forum.doozan.com/read.php?2,6300 here's one UI ;) |
| 19:11.23 | wols_ | tdn: you will not get graphics drivers from kde in kubuntu or debian |
| 19:11.29 | rozie | country_code=US exactly |
| 19:11.31 | *** join/#debian slurpymcdurpy (~slurpymcd@184-96-142-248.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 19:12.49 | *** join/#debian b1101 (~b@fsf/member/b1101) |
| 19:13.07 | *** join/#debian b_52globe (~b_52globe@adsl196-212-111-217-196.adsl196-12.iam.net.ma) |
| 19:13.08 | *** join/#debian moha_hunt (~moha@95.91.241.50) |
| 19:13.39 | *** part/#debian drywheat (~bernhard@rrcs-24-227-130-234.sw.biz.rr.com) |
| 19:13.43 | tdn | wols_, exactly. I all my hardware "just works" when installing Kubuntu. I am aware that this is not from KDE. This is what I mean by what I need to get started with Debian on desktop. Last time I tried Debian on desktop (a few years back) a lot of hardware did not work after install. So I got tired of trying to figure out how to get it to work when I could just use Kubuntu instead. My hope is that is has gotten better in Debian, but I figure that I stilll need to k |
| 19:14.01 | *** part/#debian nitii (~nit@82.114.94.94) |
| 19:14.59 | rgr | tdn: if you enable non free and use testing it'll probably work better with Debian than the mess that's *Ubuntu. |
| 19:15.58 | tdn | rgr, ok, but testing is without security updates, right? |
| 19:17.04 | *** join/#debian jrm2k6 (~jrm2k6@de3x.mullvad.net) |
| 19:17.41 | acz32 | yes |
| 19:17.46 | tdn | rgr, in order to change to testing, I just need to install from stable and then do a s/stable/testing/ in /etc/apt/sources.list followed by apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade, right? |
| 19:18.06 | *** join/#debian notis_ (~notis@178.128.9.11.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 19:18.29 | Brigo | tdn, yes, that is the recomended way |
| 19:18.30 | tdn | acz32, so how is this safe? Do security vulns get fixed anyway as regular updated? And in a timely manner? |
| 19:18.46 | *** join/#debian iflema (~weechat@CPE-121-216-64-245.lnse1.ken.bigpond.net.au) |
| 19:18.57 | somiaj | tdn: you should write 'jessie' and not 'testing' and more likely s/wheezy/jessie/ -- using jessie over testing is better as the day after the relase the floodgates open and testing is very buggy |
| 19:19.21 | somiaj | tdn: jessie does not have security updates. Any fixes are slow and usually come from upstream fixes after they spend 10 days in sid first |
| 19:19.23 | *** join/#debian b_52globe (~b_52globe@adsl196-212-111-217-196.adsl196-12.iam.net.ma) |
| 19:19.27 | acz32 | tdn: updates will come from upstream |
| 19:19.32 | tdn | somiaj, oh yeah, of course. Forgot that :) |
| 19:20.01 | tdn | hmm.. That does not sound safe. Do you guys run testing? |
| 19:20.12 | *** join/#debian Trendrrrr (~Trendrrrr@23.97.227.137) |
| 19:20.28 | acz32 | no, i run stable |
| 19:20.32 | *** join/#debian fireant (~fireant@awh176.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 19:20.46 | *** join/#debian Uber-Ich (~lamphu@216.67.162.235) |
| 19:20.50 | acz32 | i only need to backport 1 or 2 packages |
| 19:21.03 | *** join/#debian Kulrak (kulrak@C-59-101-38-190.hay.connect.net.au) |
| 19:21.03 | *** join/#debian Kulrak (kulrak@tlug/member/kulrak) |
| 19:21.10 | tdn | acz32, ok. |
| 19:21.33 | *** join/#debian Tulsene (~Tuls@37.162.231.3) |
| 19:21.40 | *** join/#debian mennea (~textual@31.210.187.15) |
| 19:21.43 | *** join/#debian AquelarreRules (~vaites@111.169.117.91.dynamic.mundo-r.com) |
| 19:23.26 | *** join/#debian CyberGabber (~CyberGabb@25-180-ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl) |
| 19:24.51 | *** join/#debian enach (~enach@28.52.26.109.rev.sfr.net) |
| 19:25.00 | *** part/#debian enach (~enach@28.52.26.109.rev.sfr.net) |
| 19:25.15 | *** join/#debian r3n1c0n (~r3n1c0n@2001:41d0:8:b330::1) |
| 19:25.33 | *** join/#debian staylor (~staylor@mail.au-zone.com) |
| 19:25.38 | *** join/#debian brokencycle (~brokencyc@188.29.165.168.threembb.co.uk) |
| 19:26.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1650] by debhelper |
| 19:27.42 | *** join/#debian bleda (~bleda@unaffiliated/bleda) |
| 19:29.26 | *** join/#debian Trendrrrr (~Trendrrrr@23.97.227.137) |
| 19:30.04 | *** join/#debian ddd1970 (~ddd1970@93-43-236-203.ip94.fastwebnet.it) |
| 19:30.16 | ddd1970 | ciao!ù |
| 19:30.30 | ddd1970 | ciao! |
| 19:30.37 | *** join/#debian abchirk (~abchirk@p4FE226C1.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:30.46 | *** part/#debian ddd1970 (~ddd1970@93-43-236-203.ip94.fastwebnet.it) |
| 19:32.07 | *** join/#debian infinitum (~infinitum@df-001f-1a30-0005.10ge.i6.sungai.nl) |
| 19:32.23 | *** join/#debian OERIAS (~OEIRAS@pool-71-109-65-16.lsanca.dsl-w.verizon.net) |
| 19:33.52 | *** join/#debian cc_INC (~diego@ip4da87e74.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 19:34.45 | *** join/#debian SlaGTaTs (~bilbo@cpc3-donc11-2-0-cust325.17-1.cable.virginm.net) |
| 19:36.17 | *** join/#debian ivanshmakov (~ivanshmak@2a02:2560:6d4:26ca::1:1d) |
| 19:36.52 | *** join/#debian magenbrot (~magenbrot@odin.ovtec.de) |
| 19:37.12 | *** join/#debian Haswell (~Haswell@unaffiliated/haswell) |
| 19:38.27 | *** join/#debian Trendrrrr (~Trendrrrr@23.97.227.137) |
| 19:39.27 | *** join/#debian patterson (~patterson@c-50-174-179-173.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 19:39.37 | *** join/#debian Tulsene (~Tuls@37.162.223.40) |
| 19:41.33 | *** join/#debian Buzzix (Buzz@unaffiliated/d3v14710n) |
| 19:41.42 | *** join/#debian cra1g321 (~craig@97e3b9c0.skybroadband.com) |
| 19:41.58 | *** join/#debian towski (~towski@76.14.64.199) |
| 19:42.06 | *** join/#debian teran (~teran@broadband-109-173-61-206.nationalcablenetworks.ru) |
| 19:42.27 | *** join/#debian Sia- (~Sia@unaffiliated/desian) |
| 19:42.30 | *** join/#debian alexs_ (~alexs@82.137.15.107) |
| 19:42.43 | *** join/#debian hopthrisC (~hop@nl48.30hopsmax.at) |
| 19:42.53 | *** join/#debian tormen0815_ (~me@37.160.34.84) |
| 19:44.17 | *** join/#debian frenetik_ (~frenetik@77-56-105-45.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 19:44.38 | *** join/#debian dArK_IcE (~DARKICEPT@a95-92-107-215.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 19:45.31 | *** join/#debian bertrik (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) |
| 19:45.46 | *** join/#debian Trendrrrr (~Trendrrrr@23.97.227.137) |
| 19:46.26 | *** join/#debian vivim (~mikest@supranet-tech.secure-on.net) |
| 19:47.55 | *** join/#debian jrm2k6 (~jrm2k6@se5x.mullvad.net) |
| 19:48.47 | *** join/#debian DesuDesu (~Desu@2a02:d40:9:1111:1111:1111:7edc:3ad9) |
| 19:49.16 | *** join/#debian valerius_ (~valerius@85.26.183.135) |
| 19:50.37 | *** join/#debian Mike9863 (~Mike9863@192.12.88.216) |
| 19:51.39 | *** join/#debian mennea (~textual@31.210.187.15) |
| 19:54.20 | *** join/#debian cra1g321 (~craig@97e3b9c0.skybroadband.com) |
| 19:55.12 | *** join/#debian Trendrrrr (~Trendrrrr@23.97.227.137) |
| 19:55.22 | *** join/#debian xSmurf (~MrSmurf@gateway/tor-sasl/mrsmurf) |
| 19:55.45 | *** join/#debian gigo1980 (~Adium@p54855B9A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 19:56.49 | *** join/#debian Sbroker (~DebianSta@unaffiliated/sbroker) |
| 19:57.26 | *** join/#debian futex (~Senseo@i15-les02-th2-5-48-48-212.sfr.lns.abo.bbox.fr) |
| 19:58.06 | *** join/#debian mirco (~mirco@ip-176-198-211-199.hsi05.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 19:58.18 | *** join/#debian Mike9863 (~Mike9863@nat-alex-runet-out-8.rutgers.edu) |
| 20:03.00 | *** join/#debian hellangel7 (~hellangel@117.192.179.224) |
| 20:04.07 | *** join/#debian glassresistor (~mike@unaffiliated/glassresistor) |
| 20:04.12 | *** join/#debian Trendrrrr (~Trendrrrr@23.97.227.137) |
| 20:04.21 | *** join/#debian secrgb (~secrgb@51.126.106.194.sta.estpak.ee) |
| 20:04.23 | *** join/#debian _2_vickybryan (~28260006@181.113.248.136) |
| 20:05.00 | *** part/#debian _2_vickybryan (~28260006@181.113.248.136) |
| 20:05.02 | glassresistor | i have a simple bash script i want to package easily, all it has to do is install somewhere like user bin |
| 20:05.03 | *** join/#debian mwargh (~sistemshi@178.132.204.156) |
| 20:05.03 | *** join/#debian _2_vickybryan (~28260006@181.113.248.136) |
| 20:06.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1644] by debhelper |
| 20:06.19 | *** join/#debian klys (~Mdasoh@173-14-238-114-Utah.hfc.comcastbusiness.net) |
| 20:07.25 | *** join/#debian yareckon (~ryan@p4FF5BF74.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 20:07.32 | *** join/#debian slurpymcdurpy (~slurpymcd@184-96-142-248.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 20:08.03 | *** join/#debian cray2 (null@2001:468:c80:6103:5054:ff:feb3:d6fc) |
| 20:08.15 | *** join/#debian rryoumaa (~user@ip68-226-110-213.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 20:08.21 | jhutchins_wk | !tell glassresistor about nmg |
| 20:08.34 | jhutchins_wk | glassresistor: That might have some useful info for you. Why do you want to package it? |
| 20:08.49 | *** join/#debian MY123 (uid37100@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-vgzujknvexlbubyb) |
| 20:09.22 | *** join/#debian r420r (isaacbsd@unaffiliated/r420r) |
| 20:09.24 | *** join/#debian bogus- (~bogus@cl-1363.ams-05.nl.sixxs.net) |
| 20:09.58 | glassresistor | jhutchins_wk: i work at a company and would rather say here is a deb file or run make install instead of copy this to /usr/bin |
| 20:10.04 | *** join/#debian ndrei (~avo@83.142.149.227) |
| 20:10.33 | *** join/#debian darkness (~hellangel@117.192.179.224) |
| 20:10.45 | sadtaco | How do I exit out of the 'Reading changelogs"? It says "done" but seems to hang there. |
| 20:10.45 | glassresistor | jhutchins_wk: so it doesn't need to be packaged for general consumption just easy distro |
| 20:11.06 | jhutchins_wk | for foo in `cat hostlist`;do scp <file> $foo:/usr/bin;done |
| 20:11.17 | *** join/#debian darkness (~hellangel@117.192.179.224) |
| 20:11.17 | *** join/#debian Trendrrrr (~Trendrrrr@23.97.227.137) |
| 20:12.02 | jhutchins_wk | glassresistor: Should probably be /usr/local/bin/ |
| 20:12.16 | *** join/#debian mowcius (~Rob@cpc67888-seac22-2-0-cust751.7-2.cable.virginm.net) |
| 20:12.28 | *** join/#debian ThKo (~ThKo@p4FED4EB2.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 20:12.52 | *** join/#debian sysvalve (~agimenez@200.180.216.87.static.jazztel.es) |
| 20:12.56 | *** join/#debian MrAlexanB (~MrAlexand@43.232.251.212.customer.cdi.no) |
| 20:13.06 | sadtaco | ah it's "q" |
| 20:13.21 | *** join/#debian crayon (null@unaffiliated/button) |
| 20:13.46 | *** join/#debian valdyn (valdyn@host-88-217-143-53.customer.m-online.net) |
| 20:14.43 | *** join/#debian na1rb (~nairb@unaffiliated/na1rb) |
| 20:15.53 | *** join/#debian gnoid (~gnoid@85.26.183.48) |
| 20:16.00 | *** join/#debian sifeic (~sifeic@c-75-71-117-103.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 20:16.03 | *** join/#debian SignorD (~D@host86-171-dynamic.16-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 20:17.02 | *** join/#debian infinitum (~infinitum@df-001f-1a30-0005.10ge.i6.sungai.nl) |
| 20:19.24 | *** join/#debian Widea (~cor@535481E2.cm-6-5c.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 20:20.19 | *** join/#debian Trendrrrr (~Trendrrrr@23.97.227.137) |
| 20:20.51 | *** join/#debian winterss (~wint@c-71-228-128-169.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 20:21.28 | sadtaco | http://pastebin.com/YXBpvmT8 I'm trying to update from squeezy to wheezy and I'm getting this on apt-get upgrade. |
| 20:21.43 | *** join/#debian mennea (~textual@31.210.187.15) |
| 20:22.04 | *** join/#debian kpease (~kpease@72.22.182.162) |
| 20:22.18 | *** join/#debian secrgb (~secrgb@51.126.106.194.sta.estpak.ee) |
| 20:22.39 | *** join/#debian SPF|Cloud (uid11755@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-exniblslbfkeypbg) |
| 20:23.11 | *** join/#debian kpease (~kpease@72.22.182.162) |
| 20:23.22 | *** join/#debian ambss (ambss@2602:fff6:4:f99a::d98c) |
| 20:25.17 | sadtaco | nvm think I fixed it |
| 20:26.50 | *** join/#debian Malmis (~Malmis@c-248672d5.014-208-73746f25.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 20:27.21 | *** join/#debian Trendrrrr (~Trendrrrr@23.97.227.137) |
| 20:28.03 | *** join/#debian sterns_ (~matt@pool-108-15-203-108.ronkva.east.verizon.net) |
| 20:28.22 | *** join/#debian sterns (~matt@pool-108-15-203-108.ronkva.east.verizon.net) |
| 20:29.17 | *** join/#debian crn (crn@adsl-108-254-73-99.dsl.lsan03.sbcglobal.net) |
| 20:29.29 | *** join/#debian Malmis (~Malmis@c-248672d5.014-208-73746f25.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 20:30.18 | *** join/#debian isdarka2 (~isdarka@200-57-117-115.reservada.static.axtel.net) |
| 20:30.37 | sadtaco | http://pastebin.com/qEiVcYkV now I'm getting this, and can't figure out how to fix it. |
| 20:30.40 | *** join/#debian ancky (~freddyfre@2a01:4f8:d12:1d05::2) |
| 20:30.42 | *** join/#debian djbkd (~djbkd@4.35.166.4) |
| 20:31.01 | *** join/#debian wtkp (~wtkp@unaffiliated/wtkp) |
| 20:31.31 | *** join/#debian wtkp (~wtkp@unaffiliated/wtkp) |
| 20:31.34 | *** join/#debian Devon__ (~Devon_@63.214.236.169) |
| 20:32.36 | *** join/#debian slurpymcdurpy (~slurpymcd@184-96-142-248.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 20:32.39 | *** join/#debian mitchreward (~mick@jul74-2-78-244-246-163.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 20:33.10 | *** join/#debian Betal (~Beta@unaffiliated/betal) |
| 20:34.04 | *** join/#debian Juzzika (~Qman@149.154.234.138) |
| 20:34.25 | *** part/#debian alexs_ (~alexs@82.137.15.107) |
| 20:34.38 | *** join/#debian Trendrrrr (~Trendrrrr@23.97.227.137) |
| 20:34.42 | sadtaco | force-overwrite seemed to work |
| 20:35.10 | *** join/#debian alexei (~amgarchin@p4FD62C40.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 20:35.22 | *** join/#debian ancky (~ancky@2a01:4f8:d12:1d05::2) |
| 20:35.55 | *** join/#debian garyle (~garyle@2601:9:5900:e25:bc73:4efc:f3c8:c9cf) |
| 20:37.03 | *** join/#debian lyonsb (~slurpymcd@184-96-142-248.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 20:37.24 | *** join/#debian Tulsene (~Tuls@37.162.195.153) |
| 20:39.29 | *** join/#debian m8 (~m@unaffiliated/m8) |
| 20:39.36 | ghormoon | hi, is it pssible to connect printer from another subnet? I tried cups and installing hplip, but didn't manage to get to the printer (I'm behind NAT, the printer is on the same subnet as public IP of first router) |
| 20:39.56 | *** join/#debian tormen0815_ (~me@lib59-5-82-243-109-205.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 20:41.33 | *** join/#debian Trendrrrr (~Trendrrrr@23.97.227.137) |
| 20:41.46 | mingtsay | Do you know what will happen when "/sys/class/net/eth0/statistics/tx_bytes" reaches the maximum value? |
| 20:41.46 | *** join/#debian infinitum (~infinitum@df-001f-1a30-0005.10ge.i6.sungai.nl) |
| 20:42.06 | klys | accessing something from another subnet usually requires a gateway route or port forwarding |
| 20:43.15 | ghormoon | klys: well I'm connecting TO the printer, so it basically shouldbe the same as if I'm connecting to e.g. google.com:80, right? |
| 20:43.35 | *** part/#debian ytrezq (~0x0EDFADE@86.128.100.84.rev.sfr.net) |
| 20:44.03 | *** join/#debian littlebit (~Thunderbi@ulmg-5d845f12.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 20:44.32 | klys | ghormoon, you will have to find out what ports cupsd is using, try netstat -a | less; less /etc/services |
| 20:45.43 | *** join/#debian k42b3 (~k42b3@p57997252.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 20:46.05 | *** join/#debian aielima (~aielima@gateway/tor-sasl/aielima) |
| 20:46.34 | *** join/#debian b1101 (~b@fsf/member/b1101) |
| 20:46.42 | ghormoon | klys: it's on a socket, does that matter? the printer does somehow connect to the cups? I thought cups will initiate the connection like a browser does to web server |
| 20:46.47 | *** join/#debian garyle (~garyle@2601:9:5900:e25:30d6:1780:90b0:2461) |
| 20:48.33 | *** join/#debian garyle (~garyle@c-50-184-103-89.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 20:48.39 | *** join/#debian Trendrrrr (~Trendrrrr@23.97.227.137) |
| 20:48.47 | klys | ghormoon: if it's a tcp or udp socket, you should be able to forward your router to the appropriate ip. |
| 20:49.24 | *** join/#debian manofnetwork (~bob@modemcable040.108-163-184.mc.videotron.ca) |
| 20:49.29 | ghormoon | klys: just, why? I don't want others to connect to my local cups |
| 20:49.49 | ghormoon | and it's "file" socket |
| 20:49.51 | klys | ghormoon, it's your choice |
| 20:50.09 | klys | well, that won't work then. your subnets are separated. |
| 20:50.44 | ghormoon | the prineter needs to initiate connection toward my cups? |
| 20:50.46 | *** join/#debian sine0 (sine@unaffiliated/sine0) |
| 20:50.51 | *** join/#debian bleda (~bleda@176.43.76.133) |
| 20:50.52 | *** join/#debian bleda (~bleda@unaffiliated/bleda) |
| 20:51.37 | *** join/#debian tormen0815_ (~me@lib59-5-82-243-109-205.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 20:51.47 | *** join/#debian mennea (~textual@31.210.187.15) |
| 20:51.48 | ghormoon | I've thought it's like with webserver, when you're behind NAT, it's ok if you initiate connection, so if the printer is (from my point of view) public (I'm NATed as one IP on the same subnet) it should work? |
| 20:51.57 | *** join/#debian tytan (~neo@p4FEA8726.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 20:52.26 | *** join/#debian lyonsb (~slurpymcd@184-96-142-248.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 20:52.50 | *** join/#debian [olli] (~olli@83.220.237.144) |
| 20:52.55 | ghormoon | I can connect/ping things on that subnet |
| 20:54.53 | *** join/#debian phuh (~phuh@cp66-203-194-42.cp.telus.net) |
| 20:54.57 | *** join/#debian sdfvsfgvsdf (~bauasdgwg@37.254.194.65) |
| 20:55.27 | *** join/#debian Trendrrrr (~Trendrrrr@23.97.227.137) |
| 20:55.43 | *** join/#debian astr (~astr@79-69-192-102.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 20:55.54 | ghormoon | worst case I can start cups on the router, but I don't wanna pollute that machine |
| 20:57.28 | *** join/#debian trix`G (~user@174.127.120.62) |
| 20:57.33 | *** join/#debian garyle (~garyle@2601:9:5900:e25:dceb:c79:197e:d75e) |
| 20:57.50 | *** join/#debian ruukasu (~ruukasu@unaffiliated/ruukasu) |
| 20:58.29 | *** join/#debian karimb (~kboumedhe@87.pool85-52-16.dynamic.orange.es) |
| 20:58.47 | *** join/#debian debhelper (~debhelper@crito.ucr.edu) |
| 20:59.12 | *** join/#debian debhelper (~debhelper@unaffiliated/debhelper) |
| 20:59.12 | *** mode/#debian [+o debhelper] by ChanServ |
| 20:59.15 | *** join/#debian Zzeiss (~wsy@108.97.108.120) |
| 20:59.33 | *** join/#debian schu-r (~Thunderbi@82-149-107-2.wco.wellcom.at) |
| 20:59.35 | *** join/#debian phuh (~phuh@cp66-203-194-42.cp.telus.net) |
| 20:59.55 | *** join/#debian infinity0 (~infinity0@freenet/developer/infinity0) |
| 21:00.19 | *** join/#debian djbkd (~djbkd@4.35.166.4) |
| 21:00.48 | *** part/#debian vogti (~chatzilla@p5DC27E9A.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 21:02.09 | *** join/#debian Trendrrrr (~Trendrrrr@23.97.227.137) |
| 21:02.50 | *** join/#debian xingu (~xingu@cl-1734.lon-02.gb.sixxs.net) |
| 21:05.30 | *** join/#debian Jikan (~Jikan@2001:41d0:8:7844::1) |
| 21:07.34 | *** join/#debian t_ (~t@d154-5-111-68.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 21:07.55 | *** join/#debian dvheumen (~dvheumen@77-175-185-165.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl) |
| 21:08.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1635] by debhelper |
| 21:08.22 | *** join/#debian tsun (~tsun@24-205-58-104.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com) |
| 21:08.36 | *** join/#debian Timmy (~irssi@unaffiliated/timmyt) |
| 21:08.58 | *** part/#debian tytan (~neo@p4FEA8726.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 21:08.59 | *** join/#debian Trendrrrr (~Trendrrrr@23.97.227.137) |
| 21:09.41 | galette | What directory is used for Xorg conf within Debian instead of the â/usr/lib/X11/Xorg.conf.d/â used in Ubuntu? |
| 21:09.41 | *** join/#debian josokr (~Thunderbi@mobile-internet-5d6adf-5.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 21:10.14 | *** join/#debian bluenemo (~bluenemo@unaffiliated/bluenemo) |
| 21:10.33 | *** join/#debian sharky (~sharky@unaffiliated/sharky) |
| 21:11.06 | *** join/#debian justanotheruser (~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser) |
| 21:11.09 | rgr | never heard of it tbh |
| 21:11.37 | heurist` | galette: /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d |
| 21:12.15 | galette | thx |
| 21:13.22 | *** join/#debian unop (~unop@host81-159-76-25.range81-159.btcentralplus.com) |
| 21:14.04 | *** join/#debian IDrinkMilk (~colin@gateway/tor-sasl/idrinkmilk) |
| 21:14.06 | rgr | hmm it could as well be there in Ubuntu too. |
| 21:14.26 | rgr | but I see its not default there at all |
| 21:14.37 | *** join/#debian bicranial (~bicranial@mail.roarfilm.com.au) |
| 21:15.21 | ghormoon | is it possible to make mount -t cifs use smb3? for browser, it was enough to add it to smb.conf, but when mounting, server refuses me (it wants smb2+) |
| 21:16.03 | *** join/#debian Trendrrrr (~Trendrrrr@23.97.227.137) |
| 21:16.32 | *** join/#debian GusBricker (~GusBricke@CPE-120-149-34-233.oirx2.lon.bigpond.net.au) |
| 21:16.43 | *** join/#debian jleclanche (~adys@unaffiliated/adys) |
| 21:18.06 | *** join/#debian ibirisol_ (~ibirisol@200.128.6.253) |
| 21:18.08 | jleclanche | hey guys, I'm moving an nginx-lua script from arch to debian but I can't find a debian package for nginx lua. I found this but I'm not sure what uses it: https://github.com/polleverywhere/debian_packages/tree/master/nginx-debian/modules/nginx-lua |
| 21:18.11 | jleclanche | any idea? |
| 21:18.27 | ghormoon | ha, it needs vers=3.0 |
| 21:19.01 | CHVNX | jleclanche: lua-nginx-* |
| 21:19.21 | *** join/#debian AlexPortable (uid7568@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-brqsdyvbsmxqhgci) |
| 21:19.23 | jleclanche | CHVNX: apt-cache search lua-nginx yields nothing. am I doing something wrong? |
| 21:19.38 | CHVNX | apt-cache search nginx lua |
| 21:19.49 | jleclanche | ah, its in nginx-extras |
| 21:19.54 | CHVNX | :) |
| 21:20.01 | jleclanche | thanks guy :) |
| 21:20.54 | ghormoon | just curious, why smb doesn't even try higher version of protocol unless explicitly told to? |
| 21:21.48 | *** join/#debian mennea (~textual@31.210.187.15) |
| 21:21.52 | *** part/#debian dvheumen (~dvheumen@77-175-185-165.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl) |
| 21:22.06 | *** join/#debian likecolacola (~oiur@124.Red-88-10-162.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 21:22.45 | *** join/#debian josokr (~Thunderbi@mobile-internet-5d6adf-5.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 21:23.19 | *** join/#debian davros_ (~davros_@c-69-181-146-228.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 21:24.19 | magyar | hi, when I check my external ip using iceweasel I get the IP of 8.8.8.8? It seems to be a google address |
| 21:24.48 | klys | do you have that in /etc/resolv.conf |
| 21:25.19 | rozie | magyar: how do you check, exactly? |
| 21:25.26 | *** join/#debian kostitas (~kostas@adsl-3.37.6.175.tellas.gr) |
| 21:25.29 | *** join/#debian kermit (unknown@pdpc/supporter/bronze/kermit) |
| 21:25.31 | *** join/#debian likecolacola (~4354@124.Red-88-10-162.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 21:25.44 | *** join/#debian sifeic (~sifeic@c-75-71-117-103.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 21:25.53 | magyar | rozie: myipaddress.com of any other free service |
| 21:26.08 | heurist` | magyar: try curl ifconfig.me |
| 21:27.03 | acz32 | magyar: can you answer the question about your resolv.conf |
| 21:28.01 | magyar | klys: acz32: it's set by dhcpd server to the gateway adderss |
| 21:28.23 | heurist` | magyar: you did not actually ask a question. but 8.8.8.8 is google DNS, it is not your IP. |
| 21:28.43 | magyar | heurist`: that comes back with my real address, as I mentioned this only happens using Iceweasel. In Konqueror it works fine |
| 21:29.03 | magyar | is iceweasel injecting my info to google? |
| 21:29.19 | *** join/#debian rodroma (~rodroma@186.58.147.29) |
| 21:29.20 | *** join/#debian Reelax (~debbix@46.197.49.46) |
| 21:29.22 | heurist` | magyar: what does that site way in iceweasel? |
| 21:29.31 | heurist` | magyar: s/way/say/ |
| 21:29.37 | *** join/#debian bariumbitmap (~nbeaver@dh187.ls.iit.edu) |
| 21:30.04 | *** join/#debian cynicallemon (~cynicalle@gateway/tor-sasl/cynicallemon) |
| 21:30.14 | Reelax | hi, whats the easy way to open gedit (not as root ) when debian boots ? (auto login is enabled ) |
| 21:30.37 | *** join/#debian fasttorwa (~mpa@f054144252.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 21:30.43 | heurist` | Reelax: auto login as who? |
| 21:30.55 | magyar | heurist`: for example http://checkip.dyndns.org/ comes back with 8.8.8.8 at the same time if I type that address in konqueror I get my real ip address |
| 21:31.10 | *** join/#debian ki0 (~ki0@92.58.126.35) |
| 21:31.28 | *** join/#debian josokr (~Thunderbi@mobile-internet-5d6adf-5.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 21:31.36 | *** join/#debian pkv (~pkvvvv@dau94-2-82-66-64-67.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 21:31.48 | heurist` | magyar: something is messed up with your iceweasel, mine does not do that. |
| 21:32.03 | *** join/#debian tormen0815_ (~me@lib59-5-82-243-109-205.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 21:32.03 | abrotman | magyar: create a new user, test again |
| 21:32.10 | *** join/#debian ndrei (~avo@83.142.149.227) |
| 21:32.31 | *** join/#debian towo` (~towo@ipb2191d47.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) |
| 21:32.52 | jhutchins_wk | magyar: It could have something to do with how your traffic is routed, or with something getting filtered by your ISP. |
| 21:32.56 | acz32 | he must have added that DNS himself. iceweasel doesn't just use google dns by default |
| 21:33.01 | Reelax | heurist`: debbix , a regular user. |
| 21:33.10 | jhutchins_wk | magyar: It's simply a CGI script that's getting an error. |
| 21:33.27 | magyar | heurist`: abrotman: something is gone in my profile for iceweasel, a new profile seems to be fine |
| 21:33.33 | *** join/#debian LordDeath (~LordDeath@siktas.com) |
| 21:33.34 | heurist` | Reelax: then just run gedit. I am not seeing the question. |
| 21:34.17 | *** join/#debian sdfvsfgvsdf (~bauasdgwg@37.254.194.65) |
| 21:34.32 | heurist` | Reelax: you want to auto-run gedit? your WM or DE should have a way to do that. |
| 21:34.34 | magyar | well, could be an addon |
| 21:34.41 | Reelax | heurist`: Sorry my Q is : "whats the easy way to auto-open gedit when my debian boots ?" |
| 21:35.04 | heurist` | magyar: that is why making a new user and trying with a clean profile was advised. |
| 21:35.11 | *** join/#debian Dreamix (~x@v6.powersat.org) |
| 21:35.19 | *** join/#debian SPF|Cloud (uid11755@wikipedia/Southparkfan) |
| 21:35.26 | cynicallemon | ~/.config/autorun - add desktop entry for gedit |
| 21:35.35 | abrotman | magyar: you can run iceweasel in safe mode also |
| 21:35.55 | magyar | abrotman: just did it, and it seems to be an addon |
| 21:36.02 | cynicallemon | ~/.config/autostart sorry |
| 21:36.03 | abrotman | magyar: problem solved |
| 21:36.28 | *** join/#debian smaug9 (~Jeff_Ward@cpe-67-249-184-11.twcny.res.rr.com) |
| 21:36.40 | magyar | I thank you very much ladies and gents for your help. I got a scare there for a second :) |
| 21:37.31 | *** join/#debian MadHatter42 (~tuwid@79.171.53.122) |
| 21:37.50 | *** join/#debian Mike9863 (~Mike9863@198.151.130.240) |
| 21:39.01 | *** join/#debian sand3r (~user@unaffiliated/sand3r) |
| 21:39.03 | Reelax | cynicallemon : i dont understand. |
| 21:39.31 | *** join/#debian josokr (~Thunderbi@mobile-internet-5d6adf-5.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 21:41.11 | cynicallemon | Reelax: what DE or WM are you running? |
| 21:41.27 | Reelax | cynicallemon: Gnome |
| 21:42.15 | *** join/#debian toshy (~toshy@catv-188-142-221-221.catv.broadband.hu) |
| 21:42.40 | abrotman | Reelax: do you also need to auto-login to gnome? |
| 21:42.42 | *** join/#debian marioxcc (~user@189.129.119.33) |
| 21:42.44 | marioxcc | hello |
| 21:42.46 | cynicallemon | Reelax: copy /usr/share/applications/gedit to ~/.config/autostart |
| 21:42.47 | *** join/#debian MeaK (~meak@ip-241.net-81-220-138.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 21:43.15 | marioxcc | given a file, how can I see from which packages it comes |
| 21:43.25 | marioxcc | ? |
| 21:43.28 | marioxcc | (given by its path) |
| 21:43.37 | *** join/#debian frenetik (~frenetik@77-56-105-45.dclient.hispeed.ch) |
| 21:44.08 | *** join/#debian MrCoffee (~coffee@unaffiliated/ridout) |
| 21:44.21 | *** join/#debian mennea (~textual@94.230.86.118) |
| 21:45.18 | Dreamix | marioxcc: dpkg-query -S /bin/bash |
| 21:45.19 | heurist` | marioxcc: dpkg -S $file if installed. or apt-file search $file |
| 21:45.22 | Dreamix | for example |
| 21:45.23 | *** join/#debian josokr (~Thunderbi@mobile-internet-5d6adf-5.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 21:45.33 | Dreamix | yeah :) |
| 21:46.37 | marioxcc | thanks you Dreamix , heurist` |
| 21:46.43 | *** join/#debian rryoumaa (~user@ip68-226-110-213.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 21:47.12 | *** join/#debian lnxslck (~lnxslck@av2-84-90-25-147.netvisao.pt) |
| 21:47.52 | *** join/#debian lnxslck (~lnxslck@av2-84-90-25-147.netvisao.pt) |
| 21:49.09 | Reelax | cynicallemon: i created a autostart under .config , then i put a script in there calling gedit. script runs when i click without any problem. But when i log off and on, it doesnt run. |
| 21:49.29 | *** join/#debian midacts (uid34732@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-mhvcjqivgpmgxxou) |
| 21:49.32 | heurist` | Reelax: put a desktop file there, not a script |
| 21:49.48 | *** join/#debian TyrfingMjolnir (~Tyrfing@cm191.iota111.maxonline.com.sg) |
| 21:50.28 | *** join/#debian harobed (~harobed@equ57-1-78-235-121-109.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 21:50.38 | cynicallemon | Reelax: cp /usr/share/applications/gedit ~/.config/autostart |
| 21:51.09 | cynicallemon | Reelax: cp /usr/share/applications/gedit.desktop ~/.config/autostart |
| 21:51.20 | Reelax | ok let me try |
| 21:57.01 | *** join/#debian badiane_ka (~gdurand@D8FF67fa.cst.lightpath.net) |
| 21:57.07 | *** join/#debian BenNZ (~Ben__@118-93-23-192.dsl.dyn.ihug.co.nz) |
| 21:58.16 | *** join/#debian jrm2k6 (~jrm2k6@104-51-78-144.lightspeed.sndgca.sbcglobal.net) |
| 21:58.51 | Reelax | cynicallemon: great. now how can i do this for Team viewer ? whats the desktop file name for "Team Viewer 9" ? |
| 21:59.06 | *** join/#debian pkv (~pkv_@dau94-2-82-66-64-67.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 22:00.01 | *** join/#debian Soul_Eater (~marcelo@unaffiliated/soul-eater/x-4649632) |
| 22:00.17 | *** join/#debian dvheumen (~dvheumen@77-175-185-165.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl) |
| 22:00.41 | *** join/#debian Blueer (Blueer@p5B358998.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 22:00.56 | *** join/#debian joncrunchbang (~joncrunch@cm-84.210.13.135.getinternet.no) |
| 22:01.56 | Reelax | cynicallemon: /usr/share/applications/ here there is shortcut named "Team Viewer 9" i guess |
| 22:02.43 | *** join/#debian kostitas (~kostas@adsl-3.37.6.175.tellas.gr) |
| 22:03.03 | *** join/#debian ReinH (sid37958@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-bvkqgxtgiecrloua) |
| 22:04.50 | cynicallemon | Reelax: yeah guess so |
| 22:05.15 | *** join/#debian justanotheruser (~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser) |
| 22:05.21 | jleclanche | CHVNX: so this was very confusing but turns out that no, nginx lua support is not available in nginx-extras. it seems like nginx has to specifically be compiled with --add-module=<lua module>. what is the easiest way for me to rebuild nginx with that extra module into an updated package? |
| 22:06.02 | cynicallemon | Reelax: you can always check by double clicking the desktop file in /usr/share/applicatons |
| 22:06.36 | *** join/#debian harobed (~harobed@equ57-1-78-235-121-109.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 22:06.37 | *** join/#debian ki0 (~ki0@92.58.126.35) |
| 22:07.33 | sonOfRa | can I somehow convince netinst (jessie b2) that network configuration was successful? It was, but it just stops doing anything after I set up the domain and gets stuck |
| 22:07.59 | sonOfRa | switching to another VT I can ping google, do other network things without a problem. I'd like to carry on in the netinst, but it won't let me, because it thinks that the network setup is incomplete |
| 22:08.47 | Reelax | cynicallemon: there is desktop file there, its name is : "Team Viewer 9" how can i copy this using a command , it has paces. |
| 22:09.13 | *** join/#debian josokr (~Thunderbi@mobile-internet-5d6adf-5.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 22:09.40 | cynicallemon | Reelax: enclose the path with quotes |
| 22:09.42 | heurist` | Reelax: use tab completions or add a \ before each space |
| 22:09.58 | heurist` | Reelax: or use quotes. sorry /doh! |
| 22:10.03 | Reelax | ok |
| 22:10.24 | cynicallemon | cp "/path/to/my app" |
| 22:10.37 | *** join/#debian tstone (~tstone@p5DDCC627.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 22:11.55 | tstone | hi, i did an dist-upgrade in sid and the glx context in xorg is gone? |
| 22:12.04 | doge | ( ͡° ÍÊ Í¡Â°) |
| 22:12.05 | *** join/#debian josokr (~Thunderbi@mobile-internet-5d6adf-5.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 22:12.43 | *** join/#debian dreki (~dreki@182.natext-192-249-3-128-25.utk.edu) |
| 22:12.48 | *** join/#debian isdarka (~isdarka@187.233.107.69) |
| 22:13.35 | tstone | mh, it seems xserver-xorg-video-ati has gone missing... |
| 22:13.36 | *** join/#debian SaMOOrai (~samoorai@209.148.95.237) |
| 22:14.06 | *** join/#debian Pei (~pei@209.148.95.237) |
| 22:14.25 | *** join/#debian mennea (~textual@94.230.86.118) |
| 22:14.33 | *** join/#debian muh2000 (~muh2000@unaffiliated/muh2000) |
| 22:14.58 | *** join/#debian tstone (~tstone@p5DDCC627.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 22:15.12 | CHVNX | Funny you bring that up, because I can no longer use fbdev2 with mplayer, which makes me assume there are problems with some of the xserver-xorg-video-* drivers right now. are you sure yours is missing? Check if it's installed. I thought fbdev was just gone for some reason and I didnt notice, but then I realized it is installed. |
| 22:15.55 | tstone | CHVNX: does glxinfo work for you? |
| 22:16.08 | *** join/#debian tnguyen (~Thunderbi@73.172.137.24) |
| 22:16.10 | *** join/#debian genpaku (~genpaku@107.191.100.185) |
| 22:16.10 | *** join/#debian philipballew (~philip@ubuntu/member/philipballew) |
| 22:16.13 | *** join/#debian justanotheruser (~Justan@unaffiliated/justanotheruser) |
| 22:16.26 | Reelax | cynicallemon: there is desktop file's visible name. "TeamViewer 9" how can i copy this using a command. i failed a few times. |
| 22:16.37 | *** join/#debian dreki (~dreki@182.natext-192-249-3-128-25.utk.edu) |
| 22:16.49 | CHVNX | I'm not on that box right now, but there was a mesa update that might have borked it. |
| 22:17.10 | sonOfRa | Syslog in VT4 is telling me that ftp.de.debian.org does /not/ support release jessie? That can't be right, can it? |
| 22:17.16 | cynicallemon | Reelax: dont forget the .desktop at the end of the filename |
| 22:18.23 | heurist` | sonOfRa: maybe you need to wait for it to sync. questions about jessie are better addressed to #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
| 22:18.48 | *** join/#debian diniwed (~gavron@pool-74-108-225-30.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) |
| 22:18.49 | tstone | the Xorg.0.log looks like the vesa and the radeon driver get loaded at a time. That seems wrong. |
| 22:18.57 | heurist` | Reelax: tab completing helps to answer those questions. |
| 22:19.21 | Reelax | cynicallemon: lol why am i not using ls to find file names :) got it now thanks. |
| 22:19.37 | *** join/#debian galette (~user@2a02-8428-00c4-a300-248a-7766-3552-292b.rev.sfr.net) |
| 22:19.47 | Reelax | file name is actually : teamviewer-teamviewer9.desktop |
| 22:19.49 | sadtaco | I have xterm-256color set on putty. What else am I missing to have my terminal show more color? I just tried CoreOS and there was a lot. |
| 22:19.50 | *** join/#debian KBme (~r00t@jon13-1-82-228-18-48.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 22:20.02 | heurist` | tstone: questions about jessie/sid are better addressed to #debian-next on irc.oftc.net, they know more about the specifics that are broken in those releases at any time. |
| 22:20.07 | cynicallemon | Reelax: haha good, heurist` is right too, tab completion is a blessing also |
| 22:20.11 | marioxcc | sadtaco: the configuration of the programs you're using |
| 22:20.19 | marioxcc | try âls -l --color=autoâ |
| 22:20.21 | CHVNX | sadtaco: more colour is not always better. Soemtimes you only need 8 colors. |
| 22:20.38 | sadtaco | Heh |
| 22:20.50 | *** join/#debian muh2000 (~muh2000@unaffiliated/muh2000) |
| 22:20.52 | tstone | heurist`: ah ok, thanks will ask there |
| 22:20.56 | cynicallemon | CHVNX: sometimes you only need 2 colors |
| 22:21.03 | marioxcc | by the way, how can I configure my debian system so that it shows more colors by default in commands? |
| 22:21.05 | CHVNX | You can turn on colouring for man pages by using a different pager, such as swapping less for most. |
| 22:21.23 | *** join/#debian zoku (~kaizoku@unaffiliated/kaizoku) |
| 22:21.25 | CHVNX | cynicallemon: Absolutely agree. |
| 22:21.45 | *** join/#debian SignorD (~D@host86-171-dynamic.16-79-r.retail.telecomitalia.it) |
| 22:22.05 | cynicallemon | if you need colors to identify files then you're not using linux correctly |
| 22:22.20 | zoku | I am having serious issues getting libgcc1 to configure on sid/amd64 |
| 22:22.29 | CHVNX | Using colours is a sure way to speed things up, though. |
| 22:22.32 | zoku | I have rebuilt the package without postinst, and it still will not configure |
| 22:22.34 | CHVNX | The mind sees colours quicker than it can read. |
| 22:22.43 | *** join/#debian RaphaelT (~RaphaelT@mx.raphaelt.fr) |
| 22:22.45 | zoku | what else happens during the --configure stage that could be eating memory? |
| 22:23.47 | heurist` | zoku: questions about jessie/sid are better addressed to #debian-next on irc.oftc.net, they know more about the specifics that are broken in those releases at any time. |
| 22:23.50 | cynicallemon | color is probably good for highlighting scripts etc |
| 22:24.02 | *** part/#debian ee2455 (~ee2455@unaffiliated/ee2455) |
| 22:24.09 | *** join/#debian morse86 (6c2d1d90@gateway/web/freenode/ip.108.45.29.144) |
| 22:24.13 | zoku | Ah, thank you heurist` |
| 22:24.18 | CHVNX | I actually use syntax highlighting in my shell (zsh) |
| 22:24.40 | cynicallemon | zoku: whats the problem with libgcc1? |
| 22:24.43 | morse86 | help, i have a patch for a debian package in wheezy...how do I get debian staff to add it? (im new to linux) |
| 22:25.14 | Reelax | cynicallemon: my final Q. I run a script at boot time as root. i will make this script do what we just did. cp deskop files to application directory. It's a desbian live usb. The script runs before just after user/debbix/.config is created. if i copy these files, will it actually run or am i too late ? |
| 22:25.18 | cynicallemon | morse86: contact the package maintainer |
| 22:25.33 | CHVNX | morse86: submit the patch and hope the package maintainer agrees that it's something that should be added. |
| 22:25.45 | morse86 | where do i submit the patch? |
| 22:25.52 | zoku | cynicallemon: during the --configure stage dpkg just sstarts eating memory and CPU |
| 22:25.57 | Reelax | cynicallemon: The script runs * just after user/debbix/.config is created. if i copy these files, will it actually run or am i too late ? |
| 22:26.10 | morse86 | i asked the maintainer and he told me to contact the software developer......the software developer told me to contact the package maintainer |
| 22:26.29 | morse86 | its a patch to pgadmin3 to fix a sql formatting issue, very small patch |
| 22:27.24 | cynicallemon | Reelax: sounds like it should work providing the user isnt already logged on |
| 22:27.38 | CHVNX | Submit the patch to the main devs and then Debian will get it from them. |
| 22:28.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1627] by debhelper |
| 22:28.12 | morse86 | ok ill try doing that thanks |
| 22:28.20 | cynicallemon | zoku: hmm not sure, sorry |
| 22:28.46 | zoku | yea, i have had this problem with a different package before, but i fixed that by modifying the postinst |
| 22:28.53 | zoku | if i remember correctly... |
| 22:28.57 | zoku | my memory isn't so great ;p |
| 22:29.47 | *** join/#debian sdfvsfgvsdf (~bauasdgwg@37.254.194.65) |
| 22:30.06 | *** join/#debian Miesco (~mugsy@209.42.113.203) |
| 22:31.03 | *** join/#debian josokr (~Thunderbi@mobile-internet-5d6adf-5.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 22:31.51 | *** join/#debian s8321414 (~s8321414@140.127.73.81) |
| 22:32.08 | cynicallemon | zoku: i assume your adding it via the sid repo? |
| 22:32.18 | zoku | cynicallemon: yea, I am only pulling from sid |
| 22:32.20 | *** join/#debian wonderworld (~ww@ip-62-143-157-238.hsi01.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 22:32.39 | *** join/#debian ShapeShifter499 (~Raansu@unaffiliated/shapeshifter499) |
| 22:32.49 | *** join/#debian lyonsb (~slurpymcd@184-96-142-248.hlrn.qwest.net) |
| 22:33.20 | cynicallemon | zoku: ok, and also i assume all packages are up to date prior to adding libgcc1? |
| 22:34.05 | zoku | this was part of an upgrade involving gcc-4.9-base |
| 22:34.34 | Posterdati | hi |
| 22:35.10 | cynicallemon | zoku: ok i thought it maybe the the gcc base |
| 22:35.12 | Posterdati | please I need to install debian on sparc, but wheezy 7.7 netboot missed silo... |
| 22:35.43 | *** join/#debian secrgb (~secrgb@51.126.106.194.sta.estpak.ee) |
| 22:37.26 | cynicallemon | zoku: just check my sid system and gcc base must have already been upgraded without issues |
| 22:37.30 | MrFrood | Posterdati: #debian-sparc on irc.oftc.net |
| 22:38.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1620] by debhelper |
| 22:40.47 | *** join/#debian spudwebb (~spuddweb@24.147.244.234) |
| 22:42.57 | *** join/#debian fbsd (~hjkl@a89-153-123-253.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 22:43.21 | zoku | cynicallemon: what version of libgcc1 are you at? |
| 22:43.22 | zoku | 1:4.9.1-19 ? |
| 22:43.35 | *** join/#debian t4nk612 (5868f427@gateway/web/freenode/ip.88.104.244.39) |
| 22:43.45 | phix | silo? |
| 22:44.21 | *** join/#debian mennea (~textual@94.230.86.118) |
| 22:44.49 | *** join/#debian iflema (~weechat@CPE-121-216-64-245.lnse1.ken.bigpond.net.au) |
| 22:47.19 | *** join/#debian Blueer (Blueer@p5B358998.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 22:47.31 | *** join/#debian winterss (~wint@c-71-228-128-169.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 22:50.20 | *** part/#debian CyberGabber (~CyberGabb@25-180-ftth.onsbrabantnet.nl) |
| 22:51.44 | *** join/#debian josokr (~Thunderbi@mobile-internet-5d6adf-5.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 22:51.45 | *** join/#debian t_ (~t@d154-5-111-68.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 22:53.06 | *** join/#debian Cybertinus (~Cybertinu@cybertinus.customer.cloud.nl) |
| 22:56.13 | *** join/#debian Shadow_7 (~youpoop@76.1.122.175) |
| 22:58.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1611] by debhelper |
| 22:58.40 | *** part/#debian dvheumen (~dvheumen@77-175-185-165.FTTH.ispfabriek.nl) |
| 22:58.47 | *** join/#debian bchamberlain (~brian98@79.97.2.26) |
| 22:58.57 | *** join/#debian bchamberlain (~brian98@unaffiliated/brian98) |
| 22:58.59 | *** join/#debian Zzeiss (~wsy@dsl092-078-219.bos1.dsl.speakeasy.net) |
| 22:59.40 | *** join/#debian basti (~basti@dslb-084-060-043-095.084.060.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 23:00.10 | *** join/#debian ibirisol__ (~ibirisol@187.44.159.222) |
| 23:01.11 | *** join/#debian ibirisol_ (~ibirisol@179.185.61.194) |
| 23:01.45 | *** join/#debian HFSPLUS (~nto43@73.38.37.152) |
| 23:01.46 | HFSPLUS | ;ops |
| 23:01.48 | HFSPLUS | !ops |
| 23:01.48 | dpkg | Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. Operators can also be contacted in the #debian-ops channel. |
| 23:01.54 | *** join/#debian josokr (~Thunderbi@mobile-internet-5d6adf-5.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 23:01.57 | HFSPLUS | dkpg:ops $problem |
| 23:02.02 | HFSPLUS | dkpg:ops problem |
| 23:02.43 | *** join/#debian mwargh (~sistemshi@unaffiliated/mwargh) |
| 23:02.44 | somiaj | HFSPLUS: what is your problem? I see no reason you should be calling the opps attention |
| 23:03.05 | HFSPLUS | =( |
| 23:03.10 | *** join/#debian Senj__ (~Senji@79-100-71-100.btc-net.bg) |
| 23:03.54 | somiaj | HFSPLUS: if you have a debian support question you can ask it here, no need to get the ops to answer. If you have an question for the ops, there is #debian-ops to ask a question about channel operations. |
| 23:04.05 | HFSPLUS | is there offtopic? |
| 23:04.08 | somiaj | or you can just state your problem and maybe I can help |
| 23:04.19 | somiaj | yes there is #debian-offtopic if you have offtopic chatter you want to say |
| 23:04.29 | *** join/#debian juxan (~juxan@190.200.48.199) |
| 23:04.33 | *** join/#debian ibirisol_ (~ibirisol@187.44.159.222) |
| 23:05.45 | *** join/#debian tormen0815_ (~me@lib59-5-82-243-109-205.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 23:07.11 | *** join/#debian micechal (~quassel@adlu87.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 23:07.29 | Reelax | cynicallemon: i still have problem auto-starting team viewer |
| 23:08.00 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1605] by debhelper |
| 23:08.17 | *** join/#debian Cybertinus (~Cybertinu@cybertinus.customer.cloud.nl) |
| 23:08.28 | Reelax | cynicallemon: after creating autostart desktops , i log off and on, it auto starts but at the first time when booted it doesnt run. |
| 23:09.26 | *** join/#debian juxan (~juxan@190.200.52.87) |
| 23:09.33 | *** join/#debian WizardGed (~WizardGed@unaffiliated/wizardged) |
| 23:10.22 | *** join/#debian josokr (~Thunderbi@mobile-internet-5d6adf-5.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 23:12.14 | *** join/#debian mdim (~user@209.129.244.250) |
| 23:13.04 | mdim | Hi folks! |
| 23:13.11 | marioxcc | hi mdim |
| 23:13.18 | marioxcc | we have been waiting for you! |
| 23:13.19 | mdim | is the release date for Jessie known? |
| 23:13.21 | *** join/#debian ibirisol_ (~ibirisol@179.185.61.194) |
| 23:14.19 | Cpuroast | freeze is in november |
| 23:14.22 | Cpuroast | supposedly |
| 23:14.35 | Cpuroast | so release probably 1st half of 2015 |
| 23:14.58 | mdim | cool! thx |
| 23:15.06 | somiaj | mdim: debian release dates follow the 'when it is ready' schedule. Which means people usually know the actual date about a week before it happens. |
| 23:15.11 | *** join/#debian ndrei (~avo@83.142.149.227) |
| 23:15.25 | somiaj | mdim: the freeze is november 5th. Then it is released once the number of RC bugs gets to zero. There is usually a sight you can track the progess of rc-bugs |
| 23:15.37 | mdim | somiaj: I know about that approach. I was just curious if the freeze has happened already |
| 23:15.56 | somiaj | jessie has a slighlty more agressive schedule than previous releases, as in they are gonna start throwing out packages that have outstanding rc-bugs with no progress on fixing them so it should be faster than wheezy's freeze was |
| 23:16.21 | mdim | good to know |
| 23:17.32 | *** join/#debian cra1g321 (~craig@97e3b9c0.skybroadband.com) |
| 23:18.05 | *** mode/#debian [+o jelly-home] by ChanServ |
| 23:18.07 | *** part/#debian HFSPLUS (~nto43@73.38.37.152) |
| 23:18.07 | *** mode/#debian [+b $a HFSPLUS] by jelly-home |
| 23:18.07 | *** mode/#debian [-o jelly-home] by ChanServ |
| 23:18.23 | *** join/#debian AndChat117236 (~AndChat11@211.136.222.43) |
| 23:19.03 | smue | Does anybody know how to redirect all outgoing traffic from a specific user/group through a VPN interface (tun0) with iptables? |
| 23:20.00 | somiaj | smue: have you tried ##networking. It would requier some advanced filtering mod that can figure out what user/group spawned the packet which is out of my experince. |
| 23:20.18 | *** join/#debian ibirisol_ (~ibirisol@179.185.61.194) |
| 23:20.33 | smue | somiaj: I'll try. Thanks |
| 23:24.05 | *** join/#debian josokr (~Thunderbi@mobile-internet-5d6adf-5.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 23:25.22 | *** join/#debian djbkd (~djbkd@4.35.166.4) |
| 23:28.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1597] by debhelper |
| 23:29.49 | *** join/#debian josokr (~Thunderbi@mobile-internet-5d6adf-5.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 23:30.58 | *** join/#debian elementofone (~nto43@73.38.37.152) |
| 23:31.02 | elementofone | hi |
| 23:31.24 | *** join/#debian michel_ (~michel@179.158.254.128) |
| 23:31.35 | elementofone | jelly-home, its me hfsplus |
| 23:31.56 | *** mode/#debian [+o jelly-home] by ChanServ |
| 23:31.57 | *** part/#debian elementofone (~nto43@73.38.37.152) |
| 23:31.57 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@73.38.37.152] by jelly-home |
| 23:31.57 | *** mode/#debian [-o jelly-home] by ChanServ |
| 23:36.57 | *** join/#debian josokr (~Thunderbi@mobile-internet-5d6adf-5.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 23:37.30 | Shadow_7 | Hmmm... i386 netinstall image is getting huge on 7.7 |
| 23:37.55 | somiaj | it is? I woudln't think it was much bigger than 7.6. |
| 23:38.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1587] by debhelper |
| 23:38.05 | Shadow_7 | 270mb -ish |
| 23:38.51 | somiaj | Shadow_7: did you grab the multiarch iso? |
| 23:39.01 | *** join/#debian dvs (~colin@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 23:39.12 | Shadow_7 | says -i386- |
| 23:39.17 | somiaj | hmm, no it is 270meg, strange |
| 23:39.41 | Shadow_7 | can I use jigdo to get the most recent debootstrap.udeb from it? |
| 23:39.44 | *** join/#debian moha_hunt (~moha@95.91.241.50) |
| 23:39.51 | Shadow_7 | since that's how I do my installs anyway |
| 23:39.59 | somiaj | wonder if it is somethig with i386, the amd64 image is only 222M which is the same size it was on 7.6 since i have an old version I could compare to but only amd64 |
| 23:40.25 | Shadow_7 | I'm just used to things being 180mb ish for these images |
| 23:40.31 | Shadow_7 | but I don't get out much |
| 23:41.18 | somiaj | well each release they get slightly bigger because they contain a complete base system |
| 23:41.29 | somiaj | I'm surprised there is that big of a size difference between amd64 and i386 though |
| 23:42.45 | *** join/#debian Mike9863 (~Mike9863@192.12.88.219) |
| 23:42.54 | *** join/#debian tsun (~tsun@24-205-58-104.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com) |
| 23:43.02 | Shadow_7 | harddrive on the lappy decided to opt out, so I guess I'm doing a usb install |
| 23:43.32 | Shadow_7 | old xp lappy, hopefully not so old that I have to chainload grub from cdrom |
| 23:43.34 | somiaj | yea I just use the installer over debootstrap most times as I don't have to muck around with getting the kernel setup with grub. (: |
| 23:43.53 | zoku | i love debootstrap |
| 23:43.57 | somiaj | at that time you just pull the hd and use debootstrap (: |
| 23:44.03 | zoku | installers suck ;p |
| 23:45.11 | Shadow_7 | I tend to avoid getting the debootstrap from packages.debian.org. Always sets /etc/issue to 7.1 |
| 23:45.37 | *** join/#debian sllide (~yeap@107.170.37.181) |
| 23:47.25 | *** join/#debian adrenaline_ (~repsol@ip70-162-30-167.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 23:48.25 | *** join/#debian Artemis3v (~artemis3@200.109.233.182) |
| 23:49.01 | *** join/#debian lelo (~lelo@unaffiliated/allure) |
| 23:49.13 | *** join/#debian meaneye (~meaneye@5.144.49.70) |
| 23:49.32 | lelo | what is the best approach for a notebook with dual gpus (intel and nvidia) after all? |
| 23:49.44 | *** join/#debian severide (~severide@unaffiliated/severide) |
| 23:49.46 | *** join/#debian Nili (~udev@unaffiliated/crunchernil) |
| 23:50.18 | *** join/#debian vivid (~vivid@unaffiliated/vivid) |
| 23:50.35 | lelo | !tell lelo about bumblebee |
| 23:50.39 | lelo | :p |
| 23:51.01 | somiaj | lelo: /msg dpkg bumblebee |
| 23:51.06 | somiaj | lelo: no need to tell him to tell you |
| 23:51.26 | lelo | somiaj: yeah, just so no one would repeat my cmd ;p |
| 23:54.38 | *** part/#debian lkiesow (~lkiesow@lvps83-169-36-131.dedicated.hosteurope.de) |
| 23:55.22 | *** join/#debian ixti (~ixti@188.119.233.1) |
| 23:56.42 | *** join/#debian tay_ (~tay@CPE-75-86-177-160.wi.res.rr.com) |
| 23:58.01 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1578] by debhelper |
| 23:58.15 | *** join/#debian AlexLikerock (~AlexLiker@unaffiliated/alexlikerock) |
| 23:58.25 | *** join/#debian josokr (~Thunderbi@mobile-internet-5d6adf-5.dhcp.inet.fi) |
| 23:58.50 | AlexLikerock | i need help to add HDMI to debian |
| 23:59.00 | AlexLikerock | error : HDMI-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) |
| 23:59.48 | abrotman | so plug it in? |
| 23:59.52 | AlexLikerock | yes |
