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| 00:00.46 | AlexLikerock | abrotman, |
| 00:00.48 | AlexLikerock | :) |
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| 00:03.38 | Buzhang | hello |
| 00:03.59 | marioxcc | hi Buzhang |
| 00:04.00 | AlexLikerock | hi |
| 00:04.37 | AlexLikerock | any one can ehelp me ? |
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| 00:05.24 | dvs | will never say "hi" again! |
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| 00:05.34 | AlexLikerock | dvs, help me |
| 00:05.45 | jelly-home | !ask |
| 00:05.45 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 00:06.07 | AlexLikerock | i say upside jelly-home |
| 00:06.12 | dvs | AlexLikerock: I just plug in my HDMI connection and a dialog pops up asking me how to configure it. |
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| 00:06.33 | AlexLikerock | my debian , donot detect |
| 00:06.35 | AlexLikerock | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:06.49 | jelly-home | AlexLikerock: ah. You said hi after that so I assumed you came in and didn't scroll up, sorry |
| 00:07.14 | dondelelcaro | AlexLikerock: if you don't see anything in xrandr; output when you plug in the HDMI, then either the HDMI isn't connected, or there's something wrong with the driver support for your card (or you have a hardware failure). |
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| 00:08.01 | AlexLikerock | no, problem jelly-home |
| 00:09.28 | AlexLikerock | my hardware work fine, before UPGRADE-DOWNGRADE-UPGRADE(again) |
| 00:09.42 | AlexLikerock | dondelelcaro, :) |
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| 00:10.46 | sadtaco | Why does debian have 400mb of cached memory used on a fresh install, on a system with 1020mb? I'm just curious |
| 00:10.58 | abrotman | dpkg: tell sadtaco about free ram |
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| 00:11.05 | jelly-home | sadtaco: because it read 400MB of stuff from disk since boot. |
| 00:11.28 | sadtaco | I see |
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| 00:13.27 | AlexLikerock | help me |
| 00:13.59 | dvs | AlexLikerock: If people can help you, they would have said something. |
| 00:14.10 | AlexLikerock | :-/ |
| 00:14.13 | AlexLikerock | :'( |
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| 00:16.00 | oeitei | Hi, I'm looking for a website to share pieces of code (like image capturing). I had an URL for a good one but I forgot it |
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| 00:16.36 | marioxcc | oeitei: maybe http://paste.debian.net/ will be apropriate |
| 00:16.46 | marioxcc | otherwise, try a hosting site like GNU Savannah or Gitorious |
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| 00:19.48 | wxcafe | hey |
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| 00:20.19 | wxcafe | when I'm using docker on debian jessie it creates multiple virtual interfaces |
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| 00:20.42 | jwash_kali | hi everyone when i do "aplay -D plughw:0,3 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav" i get sound through my HDMI. I added an .asoundrc that points to device 0,3, then i did a restart of alsa via "/etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart". but i get no sound through HDMI by default, still on my laptop speakers. |
| 00:21.09 | wxcafe | but when I'm using it on another debian jessie host (with a package I installed like 3 month ago) it only uses one |
| 00:21.30 | wxcafe | how can I make the first one create and use only one virtual interface? |
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| 00:22.48 | wxcafe | it's weird to me that the same package installed at just months of interval can be different in that way |
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| 00:24.26 | squisher | jwash_kali, you don't have to restart alsa-utils for updates to .asoundrc... programs pick that up on the fly |
| 00:24.43 | squisher | do you use pulseaudio? |
| 00:24.47 | jwash_kali | no |
| 00:25.01 | galette | Hello, whatâs the Debian equivalent to the Ubuntuâs /usr/lib/X11/Xorg.conf.d/. I heard something about a directory which doesnât exist yet in /etc/X11, and I lost it because of deconnexion and logging-problems |
| 00:25.03 | galette | :/ |
| 00:25.04 | jwash_kali | why would vlc not pick up the .asoundrc setting? |
| 00:25.18 | squisher | jwash_kali, does aplay or speaker-test pick it up? |
| 00:25.27 | jwash_kali | yea |
| 00:25.31 | heurist` | galette: /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d |
| 00:25.37 | abrotman | jwash_kali: have you thought to ask the #kali channel? |
| 00:25.38 | jwash_kali | "aplay -D plughw:0,3 /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Front_Center.wav" i get sound through my HDMI |
| 00:25.39 | jelly-home | galette: if you create /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ and put stuff in there, it will be user |
| 00:25.42 | jelly-home | used* |
| 00:25.46 | abrotman | jwash_kali: sorry, #kali-linux |
| 00:25.46 | squisher | jwash_kali, ah then it's a vlc issue, try nuking the vlc configuration |
| 00:25.56 | galette | Ok, thanks |
| 00:25.58 | jwash_kali | yea |
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| 00:26.02 | jwash_kali | good idea squisher |
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| 00:28.21 | jwash_kali | squisher nope |
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| 00:28.26 | jwash_kali | no love there |
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| 00:28.55 | abrotman | jwash_kali: is this Kali Linux? |
| 00:29.40 | jwash_kali | here is my .asoundrc http://apaste.info/tWJ |
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| 00:29.48 | abrotman | jwash_kali: is this Kali Linux? |
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| 00:30.11 | abrotman | jwash_kali: Kali is supported in #kali-linux, not in #debian |
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| 00:30.46 | abrotman | jwash_kali: Kali is supported in #kali-linux, not in #debian |
| 00:30.50 | squisher | jwash_kali, it's a valid question |
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| 00:46.05 | kawaiola | I can't seem to access my public share folder from the network it shows up, however I can't connect to it any ideas? |
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| 00:47.01 | RoyK | kawaiola: samba? |
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| 00:52.23 | kawaiola | RoyK, No just the default public share folder |
| 00:52.45 | kawaiola | RoyK, I'm about to install samba though seems like I would be better off. |
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| 00:56.02 | kawaiola | Also some how I managed to remove all of the management tools for debian when I added a mint repo so I could install firefox |
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| 00:56.18 | phleagol | I have just installed Debian without X. It boots into a simple console with chunky chars. I know all about xorg, but know little about howto config the bare console. How to do this, which tutorial should I follow please? |
| 00:56.23 | abrotman | Mint isn't supported here, nor recommended to mix. It generaly breaks things as you see |
| 00:56.40 | abrotman | kawaiola: and somewhat silly to install FF, IW is in Debian already |
| 00:58.06 | kawaiola | abrotman, why is it silly? haha |
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| 00:59.56 | zykotick9 | !tell kawaiola about iceweasel vs firefox |
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| 01:00.54 | abrotman | kawaiola: they're the same? |
| 01:01.32 | kawaiola | Ahh I've never played with debian until now haha so I had no idea |
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| 01:02.27 | abrotman | generally better to ask, or ask google .. installing random sources isn't a great idea if you're new to Debian |
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| 01:03.36 | kawaiola | abrotman, Yeah, well I did google how to install firefox onto debian and that was the method haha had it said it would mess up my packages I wouldn't of done it. |
| 01:04.00 | kawaiola | abrotman, Oh well I could always reinstall debian no biggie. |
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| 01:07.29 | kawaiola | Is there a way to install the management tools without just blasting the system and starting over?? |
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| 01:07.49 | abrotman | sure, remove the mint source, install them, be happy |
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| 01:08.24 | kawaiola | abrotman, I removed the mint source but it didn't bring anything back |
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| 01:10.14 | abrotman | kawaiola: you have to install te packages |
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| 01:10.31 | abrotman | kawaiola: what management tools are you talking about? in Gnome3? |
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| 01:10.34 | kawaiola | abrotman, oh okay I'm sure I can google how to get those back |
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| 01:10.47 | zykotick9 | kawaiola: apt won't automatically downgrade packages (back to debian versions), you'd have to do it manually (somehow) for everything that got installed from mint... personally i think your install is "broken"... |
| 01:10.55 | kawaiola | abrotman, Whatever comes with Debian by default... |
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| 01:11.30 | abrotman | kawaiola: aptitude install gnome |
| 01:11.51 | kawaiola | zykotick9, I mean it works fine still, I just don't have some of the packages that came with Debian default. |
| 01:12.20 | kawaiola | abrotman, I assume I can run that without terminal and I'll get the same thing. |
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| 01:13.06 | kawaiola | abrotman, Nevermind I just ran it and it worked looks like all the packages I was talking about, thank you. |
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| 01:24.22 | Budweiser | hello jelly-home |
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| 01:25.36 | spronk2 | hi all - does anyone know if there's a nice simple package i can apt-get to get a coloured bash output for example, and some standardised syntax highlighting for vim etc? |
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| 01:26.21 | abrotman | spronk2: install vim-full |
| 01:26.50 | dvs | never heard of the spronk2 package manager |
| 01:26.56 | spronk2 | :) |
| 01:27.02 | spronk2 | vim-full doesn't seem to exist? |
| 01:27.12 | abrotman | judd: versions vim-full |
| 01:27.12 | dvs | ,v vim-full |
| 01:27.13 | judd | No package named 'vim-full' was found in i386. |
| 01:27.33 | abrotman | oh, just 'vim' I guess now |
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| 01:27.55 | abrotman | (instead of vim-tiny) |
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| 01:28.02 | spronk2 | hmm |
| 01:28.06 | spronk2 | no syntax highlights by default |
| 01:28.14 | abrotman | :syntax on |
| 01:28.19 | abrotman | put it in your .vimrc |
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| 01:28.49 | spronk2 | mm, i was hoping to avoid having to customise config files.. just doing basic developer vm set-up |
| 01:29.15 | abrotman | so just type :syntax on when you start vim |
| 01:29.19 | spronk2 | yeah |
| 01:29.24 | spronk2 | what about stuff like ls in terminal? |
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| 01:29.32 | spronk2 | or will i have to customise config for that as well? |
| 01:30.09 | abrotman | ls --color ? |
| 01:30.14 | abrotman | you can create an alias |
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| 01:32.07 | ebot1 | hey is metasploit available for debian |
| 01:32.16 | ebot1 | in repository |
| 01:32.19 | abrotman | ask the metasploit people |
| 01:32.19 | ebot1 | cant find it |
| 01:32.27 | abrotman | no, not in the repo |
| 01:32.34 | ebot1 | im trying to pen test my network |
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| 01:32.39 | ebot1 | ah ok thanks |
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| 01:33.25 | spronk2 | bah, maybe i should just bite the bullet and use vagrant haha' |
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| 01:45.15 | katayana | hi all my alt keys disabled in terminals and now esc is the new alt key, any recommendation?> I would like alt key to be behave like the old days |
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| 01:47.27 | eb0t | hey how to open a new terminal 'window' in debian |
| 01:47.36 | eb0t | i thought it was shift l or something |
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| 01:47.43 | eb0t | but that just clears the screen |
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| 01:48.31 | katayana | you can try ctrl-shift-t for new tab if supports |
| 01:48.46 | eb0t | thanks that is it ctrly shift t thanks katayana |
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| 01:51.38 | AlexLikerock | help, my debian , not detec hdmi |
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| 01:55.38 | aypea[3] | hi. where/how is the config option that indicates wether or not services should be automatically restarted on the upgrade of particular packages? (or how do I change the sucker if it's wrong?) |
| 01:57.54 | AlexLikerock | aypea[3], i remmeber every time , apt ask before restart service |
| 01:58.18 | aypea[3] | but it also asks if it should ask and some places that may have been answered with 'no' |
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| 02:03.09 | linux-fox | hi, guys |
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| 02:07.05 | klys | hi linux-fox |
| 02:09.18 | linux-fox | klys: hi, which encrypt/decrypt/signature tool should i use in debian? |
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| 02:09.32 | marioxcc | linux-fox: I recommend GNU PG |
| 02:09.47 | marioxcc | Debian uses a reduced version to check signautres for its packages, I think |
| 02:10.03 | AlexLikerock | klys, im GNU-fox |
| 02:10.43 | katayana | why does not debian repos use https, and use http and make people vulnerable? they caught people injecting malvare into binaries the other day though it was on onion network exit nodes, still |
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| 02:11.03 | abrotman | Why does https help? |
| 02:11.34 | katayana | the traffic between the user and the server is not watched? |
| 02:11.50 | katayana | if someone can see what my system has, they can figure out vulnerabilities |
| 02:12.33 | abrotman | judd: info apt-transport-https |
| 02:12.35 | judd | Package apt-transport-https (admin, optional) in wheezy/i386: https download transport for APT. Version: 0.9.7.9+deb7u6; Size: 106.4k; Installed: 126k |
| 02:12.39 | abrotman | good luck |
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| 02:13.37 | katayana | abrotman: thanks checking |
| 02:13.49 | linux-fox | klys: ok , i am make a gpg 's pubring and secring |
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| 02:17.44 | katayana | abrotman: did not seem to make a diff here, hsa nayone used it |
| 02:17.55 | marioxcc | katayana: integrity of packages is verified after they're downloaed, I think that the program that does that is called gpgv, which is called from apt-get |
| 02:18.00 | marioxcc | and similar package managers |
| 02:18.16 | marioxcc | also, to hide the setup of your computer will gain mostly a false sensation of security |
| 02:18.21 | marioxcc | that's called security by obscurity |
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| 02:18.52 | katayana | marioxcc: it is not necessrily the integrity, I am just thinking that sniffing peoples downloads then figuring out a game plan for vulnerabilities is also security issue |
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| 02:19.57 | katayana | I mean being able to do that is pretty significant, if any third party can keep track of what you have on your system |
| 02:20.04 | abrotman | katayana: look in the BTS |
| 02:20.15 | marioxcc | katayana: it should not be. to think otherwise is seeking security by obscurity |
| 02:20.27 | abrotman | ugh .. |
| 02:20.31 | marioxcc | a system should be secure regardless of knowledge of the atacker of anyting but the keys |
| 02:21.18 | katayana | marioxcc: ok that is fair, but what i am saying is that it is much easier for attackers if they know what you have on your system |
| 02:21.40 | katayana | abrotman: BTS? |
| 02:21.48 | abrotman | really? |
| 02:22.04 | linux-fox | kali linux |
| 02:22.16 | linux-fox | kali linux based the debian |
| 02:22.23 | marioxcc | katayana: see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security_through_obscurity |
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| 02:23.08 | marioxcc | it may be a bit easier for an atacker, the point is that a secure system is secure regardless of whether the atacker knows the configuration except for the explicitly confidential material |
| 02:23.29 | katayana | marioxcc: I get it, but https by default for package management is not false sense because that is what you have to use on the rest of the web |
| 02:23.30 | marioxcc | that is it, authentication tokens |
| 02:23.50 | katayana | marioxcc: yeah sure, in ideal word noone should eb able to hack me but shit happens |
| 02:23.53 | abrotman | linux-fox: this channel doesn't support Kali |
| 02:24.40 | marioxcc | katayana: I approve if you want to use HTTPS, but if you're seeking HTTPS because you think that HTTP exposes a vunlerability of your system, you're doing it wrong. |
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| 02:25.45 | katayana | marioxcc: I am not claiming that http exposes it i am saying by siniffing your traffic they can profile your vulnerabilities, given tthat a distro like Debian hsa many downloads and packages to sustain the system |
| 02:25.47 | marioxcc | debian packages are not the same as web sites, which usually don't have another means of securing the communication on top of TLS |
| 02:26.03 | marioxcc | katayana: well, I said what I had to say. |
| 02:26.49 | marioxcc | I apporve that you want to use HTTPS, but I think that you're going to do so for the wrong reason. |
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| 02:27.40 | katayana | marioxcc:I understand your point, well taken. My original point is that one`s system applications profile is an important piece of information |
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| 02:27.54 | richac | marioxcc: oh man, i just kicked myself right now, with a troll in another room sending me pasetbins |
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| 02:28.03 | richac | i should of tried to force https |
| 02:28.33 | marioxcc | richac: ok, though I don't see what I have to do with that. |
| 02:28.40 | richac | sorry |
| 02:29.04 | richac | i just think there is never a wrong reason for something like that |
| 02:29.18 | richac | and to argue otherwise is suspect |
| 02:29.19 | marioxcc | katayana: you should strive to have secure software, not to hide its vulnerabilites by *trying* to keep secret which software you use |
| 02:29.34 | richac | marioxcc: mario is suspect |
| 02:29.35 | marioxcc | also, it's easy to know that you use Debian with nmap, unless you have taken special measures to hide that as well |
| 02:29.35 | abrotman | security by obscurity?! |
| 02:29.44 | richac | abrotman: naivity is what it is |
| 02:30.05 | richac | abrotman: oh i forgot we had this conversation before |
| 02:30.14 | richac | abrotman: my definition is real world, you have the nerd definition |
| 02:30.39 | abrotman | richac: you missed the sarcasm |
| 02:30.42 | richac | obscurity to me is not talking in a chatroom, not playing games online, not downloading movies and music, not browsing random web pages, not watching porn |
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| 02:30.55 | richac | thats the linux philosophy, but most people actually want to use their pc's |
| 02:31.02 | abrotman | ... |
| 02:31.07 | richac | "Do't talk to strangers kids..." |
| 02:31.17 | richac | its your own fault if you do right? |
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| 02:31.51 | katayana | marioxcc: someone knowing that i have debian is not such an issue, but someone knowing that i might have a vulnerable version of gnome-terminal or ssh whatever can be useful. sure these things are patched regularly and that is why we do updates but still leaves room for inseurity. anyway do not want to take more of your time, was wondering if https could be default |
| 02:32.09 | abrotman | katayana: and you have your answer |
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| 02:32.23 | abrotman | katayana: be aware that both your client and the server have to support, I'm not sure if all mirrors support https |
| 02:32.41 | katayana | abrotman: yeah i see the issue |
| 02:32.46 | katayana | I just was testing those |
| 02:33.17 | marioxcc | katayana: Understood. Though, for that matter an atacker loses little proving your system for known vulnerabilities. Lots of people do that regularily. If you log your traffic on port 22 you will see, just to put an example. |
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| 02:33.54 | marioxcc | So there's no benefit in hiding which version you're using. People interested in atacking your system will try for known vulnerabilities anyway. |
| 02:34.01 | katayana | marioxcc: yeah my logs are full of unwanted visitor knocking the door |
| 02:34.54 | katayana | obviously a hacker most likely have no way of sniffing my traffic. this was more of an issue with higher levels for those who can sniff traffic the biggiies |
| 02:35.25 | katayana | well unless i am spoofed to use a fake wireless connection |
| 02:35.38 | marioxcc | katayana: you mean *cracker*. Hackers are good programers or more generally, clever enthusiasts, despite the almost universal misconception in media. |
| 02:35.44 | linux-fox | katayana: modify your ssh port , and make a certificate authentication |
| 02:36.15 | katayana | marioxcc: sorry for misrepresentation I did not mean hacker in that repsect, no offense |
| 02:36.26 | katayana | linux-fox: i use key with pass |
| 02:36.50 | marioxcc | katayana: no, it's fine. I'm well used to see that confussion :). |
| 02:37.21 | marioxcc | katayana: not that I'm a security expert, by the way, so don't take my word for granted without research on your part. |
| 02:37.34 | abrotman | Okay, katayana has the answer .. |
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| 02:37.54 | katayana | marioxcc: that is fine, just burning some time here |
| 02:37.59 | katayana | all good |
| 02:38.17 | marioxcc | katayana: I suggest that you instead read a book about computer security. it's several times more productive. |
| 02:38.54 | katayana | marioxcc: sure recommendations? I am versed in most stuff but not deep in some others, expanding knowledge is good investment |
| 02:39.30 | abrotman | please take this to #debian-offtopic |
| 02:39.42 | marioxcc | katayana: I don't know really. When I want to pick books I usually search Amazon for that topic AND also search the web for â<TOPIC> booksâ |
| 02:39.50 | marioxcc | E.g: âcomputer security booksâ |
| 02:40.08 | abrotman | marioxcc: katayana #debian-offtopic please |
| 02:40.49 | katayana | abrotman: sure thanks |
| 02:40.58 | AlexLikerock | help |
| 02:41.09 | AlexLikerock | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:41.15 | abrotman | you don't |
| 02:41.19 | AlexLikerock | they work fine with kernel 3.2 |
| 02:41.30 | AlexLikerock | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:41.46 | AlexLikerock | i can not work with HDMI |
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| 02:43.20 | katayana | AlexLikerock: compile it yourself? |
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| 02:50.38 | somiaj | AlexLikerock: that is strange, if something worked with 3.2 but didn't work with 3.16 sounds more like a configuration than a driver issue. Any reason you have to use the 3.16 kernel and you just don't use the 3.2 kernel (offically supported one)? |
| 02:51.01 | abrotman | seems like system isn't all the way up to date |
| 02:51.02 | abrotman | perhaps |
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| 02:51.50 | somiaj | yea maybe we should figure out what version of debian this is on. |
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| 02:54.18 | Shadow_7 | ati/amd proprietary video drivers for legacy chipsets only work on kernels <=3.4.x |
| 02:54.45 | Shadow_7 | but the radeon open drivers are pretty good for kernels > 3.4.x |
| 02:57.13 | Shadow_7 | just be sure to revert the libGL.so to the non-proprietary version |
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| 02:58.37 | AlexLikerock | katayana, no, i download by repos by jessie |
| 02:58.43 | AlexLikerock | im in testing now |
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| 02:59.13 | AlexLikerock | somiaj, , yes |
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| 03:00.04 | AlexLikerock | i see, i dont have module : "snd_bcm2835" |
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| 03:03.05 | somiaj | AlexLikerock: so you dist-upgraded from wheezy to jessie? That is more than just a new kernel |
| 03:03.09 | somiaj | AlexLikerock: what grapics driver? |
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| 03:05.14 | AlexLikerock | somiaj, yes , upgrade |
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| 03:05.23 | AlexLikerock | somiaj, i use NOUVEAU |
| 03:06.10 | somiaj | check /var/log/Xorg.0.log -- are you sure nouveau drivers loaded corectly? |
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| 03:06.40 | AlexLikerock | yes |
| 03:06.56 | AlexLikerock | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:07.03 | AlexLikerock | xrandr say that |
| 03:07.18 | somiaj | so it isn't registering that it is pluged in to a moinitor? |
| 03:07.35 | somiaj | to me that says it see the HDMI device but it isn't connected to a monintor |
| 03:07.36 | AlexLikerock | are pluged |
| 03:07.46 | AlexLikerock | yes |
| 03:07.48 | AlexLikerock | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:07.52 | AlexLikerock | oops |
| 03:07.54 | AlexLikerock | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:07.56 | AlexLikerock | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:07.59 | abrotman | why not go back to the working kernel? |
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| 03:13.40 | muculus1 | run "nohup ./bin/ftpsync" for mirroring some Debian archive, after 30 min I see http://pastebin.mozilla.org/6996166 errors, while I didn't press Ctrl+c. |
| 03:14.14 | ZeusOfLightning | I asked this on the irc.debian.org debian-next channel a while ago, and am now asking it here after no response for a decent deal of time. http://pastebin.com/NZib2uVx |
| 03:16.40 | relaxed | ZeusOfLightning: sudo rm /var/cache/apt/archives/*;sudo apt-get update |
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| 03:17.17 | n-iCe | hello guys, I am using a dristro based on Debian, what would be the key set for american latin? |
| 03:17.21 | abrotman | relaxed: apt-get clean ? |
| 03:17.31 | abrotman | n-iCe: this channel only supports Debian |
| 03:17.42 | abrotman | n-iCe: ask the channel for your distro, this isn't it |
| 03:17.42 | relaxed | abrotman: or that |
| 03:17.47 | n-iCe | there is no |
| 03:17.54 | abrotman | n-iCe: which distro? |
| 03:17.58 | n-iCe | AntiX |
| 03:18.14 | abrotman | n-iCe: #mepis is your channel |
| 03:18.20 | n-iCe | thanks! |
| 03:18.23 | abrotman | n-iCe: or ##linux, but definitely not here |
| 03:18.33 | n-iCe | mepis is abandoned |
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| 03:23.02 | ZeusOfLightning | relaxed: no, that didn't work, same issue |
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| 03:32.47 | relaxed | ZeusOfLightning: hmm, what does `sha256sum /var/cache/apt/archives/linux-image-3.16-3-amd64_3.16.5-1_amd64.deb|awk '{print $1}'` return? |
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| 03:33.34 | somiaj | ZeusOfLightning: and how you are cross posting, if you are getting help in one channel you should stay there. I do know you said you waited a while, but now you are getting help in two places at once. (: |
| 03:34.01 | ZeusOfLightning | he just said he gave up :P |
| 03:34.35 | ZeusOfLightning | so, either way, it's ended there now... |
| 03:35.44 | ZeusOfLightning | 324de8cd826fb03a7bfe171199273e20df69efd644be0d53567f7bfe9354fb52 |
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| 03:36.46 | relaxed | ZeusOfLightning: ok... is your filesystem full by any chance? |
| 03:37.28 | jpleau | relaxed: I'm not getting the same sha256 sum |
| 03:37.40 | jpleau | hm wait |
| 03:37.41 | ZeusOfLightning | no, I installed debian 3 hours ago |
| 03:37.52 | jpleau | I do, nvm |
| 03:38.08 | ZeusOfLightning | I did try from 2 mirros |
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| 03:42.20 | relaxed | ZeusOfLightning: try this, "wget ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/l/linux/linux-image-3.17-1-amd64_3.17-1~exp1_amd64.deb", then "sudo dpkg -i linux-image-3.17-1-amd64_3.17-1~exp1_amd64.deb". Boot into that kernel, "sudo apt-get purge linux-image-3.16-3-amd64" |
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| 03:43.54 | relaxed | then sudo apt-get update, upgrade, and dist-upgrade and try installing linux-image-3.16-3-amd64 again. If it works boot into that kernel and apt-get purge linux-image-3.17-1-amd64 |
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| 03:45.06 | nollidj | i haven't been able to boot any kernel images after 3.14-2 because my lvm volumes don't come up |
| 03:45.31 | nollidj | i'm not sure if this is a bug in grub, lvm, the kernel, initramfs-tools, or something else. anyone heard of something like this? |
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| 03:47.20 | nollidj | i'm booted into 3.14-2-amd64 right now |
| 03:49.28 | ZeusOfLightning | I'm still getting the same issue :/ |
| 03:49.36 | ZeusOfLightning | for that .deb too |
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| 03:50.53 | relaxed | ZeusOfLightning: so you were running stable and dist-upgraded to jessie? |
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| 03:51.56 | ZeusOfLightning | well, not exactly |
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| 03:52.06 | ZeusOfLightning | I dist-upgraded without even using stable |
| 03:52.08 | ZeusOfLightning | :P |
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| 03:53.44 | relaxed | what does that mean? |
| 03:54.10 | relaxed | you either installed stable and upgraded or you install jessie directly. |
| 03:55.51 | ZeusOfLightning | I installed stable, but the first thing I did once getting it was install jesie |
| 03:55.53 | ZeusOfLightning | jessie |
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| 04:00.29 | relaxed | ZeusOfLightning: install it directly with http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/jessie_di_beta_2/amd64/iso-cd/debian-jessie-DI-b2-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 04:01.03 | relaxed | that's the best advice I can give you. |
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| 04:04.04 | nollidj | ah, there's a bug in initramfs-tools already |
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| 05:29.48 | lordhigh | Hello |
| 05:30.10 | ffig | does apache run by default in debian? I never set it up, but I see it running under www-data |
| 05:30.15 | lordhigh | what's the command on compiling files or folder make it .jpg |
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| 05:32.34 | ffig | is it common? like does it get started by installing some other packages? I've never tried to set up any server |
| 05:32.38 | ffig | on this machine |
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| 05:35.01 | wols | ffig: it's not installed by "default". and yes, it can be installed when install something that depends on a webserver, e.g. some php website thing for example |
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| 05:35.18 | wols | lordhigh: how do you want to compile jpg image files? |
| 05:36.08 | ffig | I wonder what I installed that started up apache.. I see now that my IP brings up the default "no content has been added, yet." page |
| 05:36.29 | lordhigh | wols If i have a folder and i wanna convert it into .jpg , whats the command? or what should i install on my machine? |
| 05:36.46 | zoku | ffig: check `apt-cache rdepends apache2` |
| 05:36.52 | lordhigh | Folder1 convert it into Folder1.jpg |
| 05:37.05 | zoku | if you've installed any of those, they will install apache |
| 05:37.06 | wols | lordhigh: that makes no sense to me |
| 05:37.08 | ffig | lordhigh: you want to convert all the files in the folder? |
| 05:37.18 | ffig | zoku: thanks |
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| 05:37.41 | wols | lordhigh: a folder is no image, so how do you propose to convert what exactly? |
| 05:37.45 | lordhigh | wols yep , so that i can easily do tar zxvf Folder1.jpg |
| 05:37.54 | lordhigh | if ever i wanna extract |
| 05:38.31 | wols | so you want to put a bunch of files into an archive? |
| 05:38.58 | lordhigh | wols, binary files and text files |
| 05:39.17 | wols | tar zcvf folder.tar.gz folder/ like this? this has nothing to do with images and jpg files |
| 05:39.40 | ffig | archive the folder then rename it to .jpg |
| 05:39.41 | wols | lordhigh: maybe you should also look into frontends like xarchiver, 7-zip, etc |
| 05:39.47 | lordhigh | wols its just only an example, if ever i can convert the file into .jpg |
| 05:39.50 | wols | ffig: why would one rename it? |
| 05:39.52 | ffig | are you trying to hide that it is a zip? |
| 05:39.59 | lordhigh | no |
| 05:40.03 | wols | lordhigh: your "convert file into jpg" is nonsensical |
| 05:40.13 | ffig | just guessing as to the meaning |
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| 05:40.22 | ffig | converting a file into a jpg is like converting a car into a cake |
| 05:40.36 | lordhigh | ffig, perfect. |
| 05:41.20 | lordhigh | so if im using windows do you have any suggestion what app/program that i can use? |
| 05:43.01 | Epakai | just use imagemagick's convert utility, works everywhere. automatically determines the source file format and will convert based on output's file extension |
| 05:43.50 | wols | lostcoffee: does this look like a channel about windows programs to you? |
| 05:44.19 | lostcoffee | wols: what? |
| 05:44.27 | ffig | that was lordhigh |
| 05:44.35 | ffig | who just left, coincidentally |
| 05:45.00 | wols | lostcoffee: ETAB, sorry |
| 05:45.22 | ffig | we'll never know what lordhigh was really trying to do... |
| 05:45.42 | zoku | probably trying to get royally high |
| 05:45.50 | zoku | uuughh, sorry guys, I will stop |
| 05:45.53 | lostcoffee | wols: thought that highlight was a little random |
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| 05:52.12 | richac | haha i just scrolled up on his comments |
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| 06:01.37 | ffig | is there a 'quick' way to run apt-cache rdepends and see which of the results are installed? |
| 06:02.41 | zoku | awk ;] |
| 06:02.46 | zoku | not so quick |
| 06:02.56 | ffig | yeeeeaa |
| 06:03.01 | ffig | k |
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| 07:04.14 | fortress | hello, having trouble connecting a bluetooth keyboard to Debian Jessie. Blueman is not successful at pairing the device, though it is visible. I am trying to follow the Debian bluetooth guide and use the command line, but 'bluetooth-agent doesn't seem to exist in Jessie |
| 07:04.30 | fortress | how can i pair my bluetooth keyboard using the command line in Jessie? |
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| 07:08.05 | fortress | aha! in Jessie, bluetooth-agent is replaced with bt-agent |
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| 07:15.46 | jabbah123 | so.. I'm here because I accidentally removed my network-manager package by executing apt-get autoremove. |
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| 07:17.43 | jabbah123 | I can't get online. I've used another computer to download the .deb file from the wheezy repo, but for some reason dkpg is giving me errors on why it can't install it? It says decompressing archive member: internal gzip read error: '<fd:4>: invalid distance too far back'. anyone have any bright ideas? |
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| 07:20.05 | fortress | jabbah123: try downloading the .deb again. maybe it is corrupt? |
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| 07:21.45 | wols | jabbah123: how exactly do you go online? |
| 07:22.20 | jabbah123 | I'm pretty sure it isn't.. that's also what I thought in the beginning. |
| 07:22.34 | jabbah123 | so I downloaded it again, same error, same filesize etc |
| 07:22.50 | jabbah123 | I'm using another computer in the same household |
| 07:23.30 | wols | on the system that doesn't work right now I mean |
| 07:23.35 | wols | wlan, lan, etc |
| 07:24.47 | jabbah123 | I use wlan. now that I don't have the network-manager and gnome frontend for that.. I'm very, very lost |
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| 07:27.10 | wols | jabbah123: if you use normal WPA https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#wpa_supplicant point 3 is the important part. 3 lines in your interfaces file and then /etc/init.d/networking restart and it should work |
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| 07:38.35 | jabbah123 | I've edited /etc/network/interfaces. running wpa_cli reconfigure gives me an error though saying that it can't find wpa_ctrl_open: No such file or directory |
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| 07:42.51 | jabbah123 | it appears as though I'm quite screwed lol |
| 07:43.15 | wols | simply run the command above I gave you |
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| 07:51.00 | jabbah123 | wols: the "wpa_cli reconfigure" command, which what I assume you're referring to, doesn't work. |
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| 07:51.18 | wols | no I wasn't refering to that since I never wrote about that |
| 07:51.18 | jabbah123 | it cannot find a certain file or directory |
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| 07:53.59 | jabbah123 | oh I see. you only wanted me to read a very specific part of that page. |
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| 08:14.25 | ivanshmakov | In the environment I work with, itâs expected that dpkg(8) wonât be able to make backup links for (some) files.âHow do I turn the âunable to make backup linkâ error to a warning? |
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| 08:14.50 | ivanshmakov | Iâve tried --force-unsafe-io, but it doesnât seem to have any effect on that behavior. |
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| 08:17.03 | gtristan | is it normal for the debian-vote list to take > 10min to propagate/archive messages ? |
| 08:18.24 | jelly-home | gtristan: are you looking at your inbox, or web archives? web archives seem to be processed in batches and are often delayed |
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| 08:19.21 | gtristan | jelly-home, both, it's my first post to the list, I've been subscribed for a few days |
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| 08:19.47 | gtristan | anyway, I should give it more time, some MLs are faster than others |
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| 08:20.31 | jelly-home | gtristan: I guess it's possible moderation was enabled due to trolls |
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| 08:20.50 | Atroc | how can i install the "as" command in Debian? |
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| 08:21.52 | jelly-home | Atroc: the assembler? Install binutils package |
| 08:22.05 | Atroc | jelly-home: ok. thank you :) |
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| 08:22.20 | gtristan | jelly-home, that's sort of what I'm worried about, the list info says it's not moderated, I don't believe I've said anything unprofessional, but as it's a heated debate, it may very well be speaking against what any given moderator has opinions about :-S |
| 08:22.23 | jelly-home | Atroc: what are you really trying to do? |
| 08:22.49 | gtristan | I will have some trust |
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| 08:23.22 | Atroc | jelly-home: compiling grub2tc to add my truecrypted windows to grub |
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| 08:29.22 | ChrisH | jelly-home: My backup went well last night, without any changes to the snapshot volume size. From lvdisplay: "Allocated to snapshot 50,83%" so it should be still OK the next time. |
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| 08:34.52 | Agiofws | hello |
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| 08:36.33 | Agiofws | i'm trying to insert a double « from my keyboard in wheezy 7.0 but my AltGr key does not work would it be wise to edit xorg.conf or does not debian use it anymore? |
| 08:37.14 | Agiofws | xorg.conf no such file in in 7.0 ? |
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| 08:37.37 | Agiofws | where can i set Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys" in debian or in gnome 3? |
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| 08:38.39 | wols | Agiofws: you can create a xorg.conf, or better, create a file in /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ |
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| 08:39.53 | Agiofws | wols, do i have to set up the whole file or just include the above option ? |
| 08:40.10 | Agiofws | or cani do that in some kind of gnome system app? |
| 08:40.30 | jelly-home | Agiofws: global setting, regardless of Gnome, /etc/default/keyboard |
| 08:40.39 | jelly-home | !keymap |
| 08:40.39 | dpkg | Run "dpkg-reconfigure keyboard-configuration" to change both your default console and X keymap; the setxkbmap utility can be used to adjust keymap settings during X operation. For setting up X keymaps, see xkeycaps, xev and ask me about <multimedia keys>. |
| 08:41.21 | jelly-home | managed by that keyboard-configuration thing in part, but you can edit it manually as well |
| 08:42.09 | Agiofws | http://i.imgur.com/1hPhWqU.jpg |
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| 08:43.07 | gtristan | worrisome, seems that other peoples replies are getting through to the list, I can still hope that it's because their email addresses are well known and thus automatically approved by the moderator :-S |
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| 08:43.09 | Agiofws | XKBOPTIONS="grp:alt_shift_toggle,grp_led:scroll:nodeadkeys |
| 08:43.38 | Agiofws | my problem is thati can't get the 3rd chars on my keyboard to print how do you guys do it ? |
| 08:44.00 | Agiofws | i assume i would be able to use AltGr key but it does not work |
| 08:44.18 | Agiofws | wols, do i have to restarx X ? |
| 08:44.22 | wols | Agiofws: does @ and ⬠work? |
| 08:44.32 | wols | yes, you need to restart X for xorg.conf changes to take effect |
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| 08:44.51 | wald0 | how i should send my hostname in the broadcast? |
| 08:45.01 | Agiofws | what keys do you press to get the euro sign? |
| 08:45.01 | wald0 | want that computer2 can ping to computer1 using its hostname |
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| 08:45.28 | Agiofws | edit your hosts file ? |
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| 08:45.46 | wols | wald0: are you using dhcp? |
| 08:45.46 | Agiofws | and map it to the ip of the host you want to ping |
| 08:46.16 | wald0 | wols: yes |
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| 08:46.36 | Agiofws | what key combination do you use to print 3rd chars on screen? |
| 08:47.08 | wald0 | Agiofws: the network/admin guy says that I cannot have static ip, but that my computers should ping each other if the hostname is correctly set and its send to the broadcast |
| 08:47.14 | jelly-home | Agiofws: dunno, I used KDE's old kxkb tool to set up all sorts of xkb options crap, and copy/pasted from there into XKBOPTIONS="lv3:ralt_switch,compose:menu,grp:alt_shift_toggle,eurosign:e,ctrl:nocaps,grp:lctrl_lshift_toggle,altwin:meta_win,terminate:ctrl_alt_bksp" |
| 08:48.14 | Agiofws | yes but how do you print the euro sign? |
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| 08:48.36 | wald0 | Agiofws: i have it in my xmodmap, so i just use it with my altgr directly on E |
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| 08:48.48 | wols | wald0: dhclient.conf setting IIRC. e.g. http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/76564/unable-to-set-hostname-for-use-within-network see the "send host-name" line there |
| 08:48.54 | g4b0_ | hi all |
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| 08:49.11 | jelly-home | Agiofws: seeing as there's the eurosign:e xkb option in place, it's AltGr-e even if the layout does not have that defined |
| 08:49.20 | g4b0_ | does wheezy will get LTS support? |
| 08:49.27 | wald0 | wols: btw searching on google, i have read in my /var/run/nm-dhclient-eth0.conf that this line is already set |
| 08:49.33 | jelly-home | g4b0_: it's hard to say at this point. |
| 08:50.44 | jelly-home | g4b0_: if squeeze lts gets funded enough to be sustainable, it will certainly make wheezy lts more probable |
| 08:50.46 | wald0 | $ grep hostname /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf |
| 08:50.46 | wald0 | send host-name = gethostname(); |
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| 08:51.09 | wols | wald0: put a normal string there, not a call. just for testing |
| 08:51.29 | wols | send host-name = "furrypuppy" |
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| 08:51.38 | wols | send host-name = "furrypuppy"; rather |
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| 08:52.07 | jelly-home | g4b0_: there are reports about the state of LTS at http://raphaelhertzog.com/category/news/debian-news/ |
| 08:52.47 | gtristan | after actually an hour goes by, mail get's through, I understand, it's a rough patch |
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| 08:53.09 | wald0 | wols: so i set it on computer1, then run again dhclient eth0, and from computer2 i should ping to computer1 ? (or any missing step for testing?) |
| 08:54.42 | g4b0_ | jelly-home: thanks a lot |
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| 08:55.09 | g4b0_ | we are re-thinking all our infrastructure |
| 08:55.16 | wols | wald0: dig @ipofDNS computer1 should give you an answer, yes |
| 08:55.18 | g4b0_ | and my boss want to use wheezy |
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| 08:55.29 | jelly-home | gtristan: it's possible they still do greylisting for mailing lists and your (ip, sender, recipient) combo was new |
| 08:55.56 | g4b0_ | but I don't want to dist-upgrade everything in a copule of year |
| 08:56.39 | jelly-home | g4b0_: convincing your company to sponsor LTS would probably go a long way |
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| 08:57.20 | gtristan | jelly-home, totally understandable, I have been waiting patiently for a few days to find the right 'in' to express my opinions as a GNOME guy, which I think are relevant to the discussion, just tensions are a bit high so, was a little worried :) |
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| 08:57.52 | gtristan | don't want to disturb the signal-to-noise ratio either |
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| 08:58.02 | gtristan | (and normally wouldnt but in |
| 08:58.03 | gtristan | ) |
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| 08:59.09 | EdePopede | hi, i just tried (again) to get sound in skype (now using https://wiki.debian.org/skype and https://wiki.debian.org/PulseAudio) wiith the result to have no sound at all now. (not that i didn't expected something like that after reading about other perople's experiences the last time i tried). so is there a posibility to get back to alsa (deinstall that other stuff, is this enough?) or do i need a fresh install of debian? |
| 08:59.18 | jelly-home | gtristan: I'm not a DD so thankfully i don't have a need to butt in :-) |
| 08:59.48 | gtristan | jelly-home, DD=Debian Developer ? |
| 08:59.50 | jelly-home | yes |
| 09:00.05 | jelly-home | as in, the people that actually get to vote |
| 09:00.24 | gtristan | jelly-home, that's just it, neither am I, I am a concerned GNOME Developer (but my mail starts with that disclaimer, I think appropriately) |
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| 09:02.12 | gtristan | I'm more worried about how Debian's tolerance of GNOME's lack of motivation to improve interoperability will have a negative impact on GNOME, than I am really about the future of Debian (however I do maintain my own little downstream of jessie, so I am also effected by this systemd in another way) |
| 09:04.14 | jelly-home | gtristan: eh, at least you're not a "concerned user" |
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| 09:05.07 | jelly-home | problems with upstream should probably be addressed upstream, a distro can do only so much |
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| 09:06.04 | gtristan | jelly-home, upstreams will only consider this a valid 'problem' if downstreams hold us to a given standard of stability and interoperability, really |
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| 09:06.23 | jelly-home | EdePopede: did you verify with pavucontrol where your apps send audio, and which output devices are configured? |
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| 09:07.16 | gtristan | this is what I've seen happening in GNOME since 3.0, a lot of patches which break ABI in the platform, and no downstream contributors around to say "hey, this breaks X and Y", so the downward spiral continues so long as nobody else is participating |
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| 09:12.02 | Freeaqingme| | Hi folks. I'm on a machine that has a steal time of 5-15% (acc. to top. Which is high but I believe to be right). However, when I run iostat, it tells me I've got a 99.98% steal time, and after opening top right after running iostat, top tells me for a couple of seconds 100% of my cpu cycles was stolen |
| 09:12.11 | EdePopede | for the files: aptitude purge pulseaudio autodeinstalls pulseaudio-module-x11 and sound is working now again. can't deinstall all (libpulse0:i386 needed by skype etc) but it is ok for now |
| 09:13.03 | EdePopede | jelly-home: i started pavu, iirc this is that gtk dialog? tried out some settings, nothing worked |
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| 09:13.46 | jelly-home | EdePopede: pavucontrol |
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| 09:14.10 | sadsagfjg12 | HI.I installed debian 7.7 net install and in expert install ignore configure network and now i dont have internet |
| 09:14.20 | jelly-home | but if you uninstalled, it's not relevant any more |
| 09:14.38 | sadsagfjg12 | what? |
| 09:14.42 | wols | sadsagfjg12: and how do you want to connect, lan or wlan? what network chip do you have? |
| 09:14.46 | EdePopede | hm, /usr/lib/rtkit/rtkit-daemon still running, isn't that a part of that alien soundsystem? |
| 09:14.48 | sadsagfjg12 | lan |
| 09:14.56 | wols | sadsagfjg12: what wlan chip? |
| 09:15.19 | sadsagfjg12 | wols: i don know |
| 09:15.25 | sadsagfjg12 | wols: i don t know |
| 09:15.28 | wols | sadsagfjg12: lspci -nn|grep net |
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| 09:15.59 | Wulf | sadsagfjg12: dhclient eth0 |
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| 09:17.09 | sadsagfjg12 | Wulf: eror |
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| 09:18.51 | sadsagfjg12 | wols: Ethernet controler Realtak semiconductor co ,ltd,RTL8111/81688 pci expreess gigabit ethernet controller |
| 09:19.01 | Wulf | sadsagfjg12: what error? |
| 09:19.42 | sadsagfjg12 | Wulf: dhclinet:command not found |
| 09:19.42 | wols | sadsagfjg12: that one is normally loaded by default. /sbin/ifconfig -a |grep eth |
| 09:19.59 | Wulf | sadsagfjg12: that's because you've got a broken keyboard. Or a broken user. |
| 09:19.59 | wols | sadsagfjg12: you are not root. and it's "dhclient eth0" or "sudo dhclient eth0" |
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| 09:21.48 | EdePopede | and what about pavucontrol? without pulseaudio i don't need it anymore, right? --- and to go on: which packages besides *pulse* (exception: those needed by skype) are obsolete now? any way to find out without going through the package list manually? |
| 09:22.33 | sadsagfjg12 | wols: eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr |
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| 09:23.06 | sadsagfjg12 | wols,wulf: I am in root |
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| 09:25.00 | sadsagfjg12 | HI.I installed debian 7.7 net install and in expert install ignore configure network and now i dont have internet. Please help me |
| 09:25.09 | Wulf | sadsagfjg12: what, again? |
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| 09:25.33 | sadsagfjg12 | wulf: eth0 Link encap:Ethernet HWaddr |
| 09:25.39 | sadsagfjg12 | sorry |
| 09:25.44 | wols | sadsagfjg12: add the following two lines into your /etc/network/interfaces http://paste.debian.net/129359/ |
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| 09:26.28 | sadsagfjg12 | wols: i don t have internet so i can t type this large text |
| 09:26.48 | wols | you have internet. you are here |
| 09:26.48 | Wulf | sadsagfjg12: are you a moron? |
| 09:27.11 | wols | and two short lines are not long. it's less than a twitter |
| 09:27.19 | XmmD | Hello , for a small-medium LAMP server, what arhi to chose : i386 or 64 (server is dell r210II with IntelXeon E3-1220 @3.1 mhz) ?? |
| 09:27.33 | sadsagfjg12 | wols,wulf: i now in other laptop |
| 09:27.48 | wols | you are still oneline. and you can type those two lines |
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| 09:27.49 | sadsagfjg12 | Wulf: ok? |
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| 09:28.05 | Wulf | XmmD: 64 imho |
| 09:28.17 | wols | XmmD: how much memory do you have? but there is no downside to amd64 |
| 09:28.22 | XmmD | 4gb |
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| 09:28.35 | wols | definitely amd64 then |
| 09:28.51 | XmmD | wols: ok , thank you ! |
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| 09:30.16 | sadsagfjg12 | wols,wulf :http://paste.debian.net/129360/ |
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| 09:32.25 | wols | sadsagfjg12: I told you what to add. we don't care what's in there right now. add, du you understand the word "add"? |
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| 09:33.19 | Wulf | sadsagfjg12: Ø¢Ûا Ø´Ù
ا را در Ø¯Ø±Ú©Ø |
| 09:33.44 | sadsagfjg12 | Wulf: do you speak persian? |
| 09:33.53 | Wulf | sadsagfjg12: no. |
| 09:34.30 | sadsagfjg12 | wols: What do you think I should add . |
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| 09:35.34 | Wulf | sadsagfjg12: ! /etc/network/interfaces ï»ªïº http://paste.debian.net/129359/ ﻥﺩïºÚ© ﻪï»ïºïº¿ïº |
| 09:35.42 | Wulf | wonders if that's comprehensible |
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| 09:36.04 | xiqy | How can I find out which package a certain file belongs to? |
| 09:36.13 | Wulf | xiqy: dpkg -S /foo/bar |
| 09:36.22 | Wulf | xiqy: or use apt-file |
| 09:36.43 | wols | sadsagfjg12: the paste.debian.net link I gave you above |
| 09:37.34 | xiqy | Wulf: Thanks! |
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| 09:39.03 | sadsagfjg12 | wols,wulf: I now add this but i don t have internet |
| 09:39.10 | Wulf | sadsagfjg12: ifup eth0 |
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| 09:40.55 | sadsagfjg12 | Wulf,wols: thanks a lot now OK :) |
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| 09:41.52 | sadsagfjg12 | Wulf: thank you |
| 09:41.58 | sadsagfjg12 | wols: thank you |
| 09:41.59 | Wulf | np |
| 09:42.10 | sadsagfjg12 | what? |
| 09:42.29 | Wulf | sadsagfjg12: https://www.google.com/search?q=np |
| 09:42.58 | Wulf | sadsagfjg12: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=np first hit. |
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| 10:04.25 | zhuoql | Hi all, I got a question: are the packages libdrizzle* removed from sid? |
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| 10:09.55 | Tau | hello. |
| 10:10.10 | Tau | i have written an editor/ide vim-like. |
| 10:10.20 | Tau | i would like to have it packaged so ppl could download from apt. |
| 10:10.33 | Tau | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ahachd4_N9U |
| 10:10.33 | Tau | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmsZyO0_5n0&feature=youtu.be |
| 10:10.35 | Hunterkll | hrm. i think debian has a site on that |
| 10:10.41 | Hunterkll | on submitting pakcages |
| 10:10.44 | Abhijit | Tau, where is the code? |
| 10:10.51 | Tau | these are the vids of it. |
| 10:10.56 | Tau | it is on sourceforge. |
| 10:11.06 | Hunterkll | protip: use github |
| 10:11.09 | Tau | http://vyapp.sourceforge.net/ |
| 10:11.11 | Hunterkll | sourceforge got sold out |
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| 10:11.18 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:11.19 | jelly | Tau: do you plan to do the packaging work, or just wish someone would package it? |
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| 10:11.23 | Hunterkll | some sourceforge downloads include adware |
| 10:11.43 | Hunterkll | smokes some server notes |
| 10:11.45 | Tau | jelly well. i don't understand much about debian packaging system. if someone else could package it would be cool. |
| 10:11.54 | jelly | !rfp |
| 10:11.55 | dpkg | Request For Package (RFP) is the way to ask for a piece of software to be included in Debian. See http://www.debian.org/devel/wnpp, the section on that page "Adding new entries with "reportbug"" is a good place to start. Technically, a RFP is a wishlist bug filed against "wnpp" with a title beginning "RFP: ", ask me about <wnpp>. The best way of getting software packaged is to do it yourself: ask me about <nmg>. |
| 10:11.56 | Hunterkll | (literally, i used the paper the notes were written on to roll a cigarette) |
| 10:11.57 | Hunterkll | lol |
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| 10:17.12 | Tau | jelly |
| 10:17.24 | Tau | do you know well of packaging? |
| 10:17.53 | Hunterkll | read linked URL and debian package docs |
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| 10:18.27 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:18.39 | Hunterkll | i've learned it's a |
| 10:18.50 | Hunterkll | 'do a portion, push it out, they will come' sort of thing |
| 10:20.52 | jelly | !tell Tau about nmg |
| 10:20.57 | jelly | !tell Tau about mentors |
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| 10:21.28 | Hunterkll | :D |
| 10:22.02 | Hunterkll | aw, how cute. i never realized the channel bot was named dpkg |
| 10:22.03 | Hunterkll | :D |
| 10:22.17 | Hunterkll | i've only been here for years..... |
| 10:22.27 | Tau | jelly do you wanna be my mentor |
| 10:22.30 | Tau | lol |
| 10:22.33 | Hunterkll | >_< |
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| 10:22.41 | Tau | i havent slept. |
| 10:22.46 | Tau | i'm feeling bad. |
| 10:22.49 | Tau | i need a drink. |
| 10:22.54 | Hunterkll | contemplates taking ove rthe s/390 port |
| 10:22.55 | Tau | i should have a drink. |
| 10:23.04 | Hunterkll | i've had too many if i'm thinking in 360 assembler |
| 10:23.04 | Hunterkll | :/ |
| 10:23.18 | KTL | goes get coffee |
| 10:23.21 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:23.28 | Tau | ktl i had a lot of coffees tonight. |
| 10:23.34 | Hunterkll | Tau, reliably? ed. |
| 10:23.37 | jelly | Tau: sorry, I'm not a Debian Developer |
| 10:23.48 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:23.50 | Hunterkll | ed's the only one i can be assured is on all my platforms |
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| 10:23.58 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:24.13 | Hunterkll | Tau, on a system/360 mainframe or a PDP-11/45+ ? |
| 10:24.15 | Tau | lol |
| 10:24.21 | Hunterkll | will it even compile on a non-linux system? |
| 10:24.22 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:24.31 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
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| 10:24.45 | Hunterkll | Tau, guess what won't run on most of my systems? python. |
| 10:24.46 | Tau | so it would work on all non linux systems that support python. |
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| 10:24.49 | Hunterkll | cobol, however.... |
| 10:25.02 | jelly | Hunterkll, Tau: it's better to move non-tech support chat to #debian-offtopic |
| 10:25.23 | Hunterkll | agreed. i was just being a slight troll there though :P |
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| 10:25.32 | Hunterkll | though most of my systems are incapable of running python >_< |
| 10:25.48 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:25.50 | jelly | Hunterkll: pro tip: don't do that |
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| 10:26.20 | Hunterkll | jelly: mkay. and by 'troll' i meant provide my use cases that no one in their right mind would ever encounter, but i do :P |
| 10:27.02 | Hunterkll | grumbles about punch card scars and moves to -offtopic |
| 10:27.17 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:27.22 | Tau | lol |
| 10:27.42 | JyZyXEL | how do i allow commands startd with "sudo" to use the pulseaudio that is by default running as a normal user? |
| 10:28.43 | jelly | Hunterkll: first get Debian running on a /360, then it'll be more appropriate :-) |
| 10:29.05 | Hunterkll | jelly: I did - at the time. that's why i have the scars |
| 10:29.11 | Hunterkll | dropped a full boxed deck on my thumb |
| 10:29.28 | Hunterkll | was sysgenning debian from the host :3 |
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| 10:42.08 | inthl | I would like to use iptables to list (aka -nvL) information. But not the usual entiere table, but one single row from one specific IP, e.g. -s 1.2.3.4 ...so I would like the pkts count listed, etc. just as usual with -nvL, but just for this single one ip. Is there a way to do this? besides listing the entire list and | grep 1.2.3.4 |
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| 10:59.22 | proj | How can i fix this error?: http://gyazo.com/2c982652a6a3d2e832e269a209c492cf I've downloaded libboost-dev "sudo apt-get install libboost-dev" but the error still remains the same. |
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| 10:59.55 | nine_pt | can I have a interfaces configuration of a eth0 static ip address and make a udhcpc -i eth0 to obtain ip ? |
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| 11:01.35 | txomon|fon | hi, openvswitch-datapath-dkms module is not compiling |
| 11:01.47 | txomon|fon | relevant link: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openvswitch/+bug/1379201 |
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| 11:15.14 | sadsagfjg12 | #5اÙÙ |
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| 11:15.20 | sadsagfjg12 | #5hit |
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| 11:16.56 | ChrisH | proj: 1. looks like ubuntu used here. 2. /usr/local is not used by any Debian package |
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| 11:29.20 | Sander^s | i'm trying to do: update-initrd kernelversion from a bootdisk. how come I get: Warning: not updating initrd; dont know what to do with kernel version 3.2.32 |
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| 11:33.18 | sadsagfjg12 | I want a good windows managar. What would you recommend to me? |
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| 11:34.49 | petn-randall | sadsagfjg12: "Good" in the sense of what? You can give Gnome, KDE, Xfce a try. |
| 11:34.56 | xryz | https://wiki.debian.org/DesktopEnvironment |
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| 11:35.42 | sadsagfjg12 | xryz: all 4 windows managr? |
| 11:35.57 | sadsagfjg12 | petn-randall: ok,sorry |
| 11:36.38 | abrotman | That was three ... |
| 11:36.48 | sadsagfjg12 | 4 |
| 11:37.03 | sadsagfjg12 | no 5 |
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| 11:43.51 | darsie | How can I enter alt codes in firefox (xfce4) such as alt-214 for 'Ã'? |
| 11:44.05 | darsie | iceweasel |
| 11:44.22 | OUTsider | how to disable that automatic sleep stuff (where the laptop 'freezes' after a while not used) |
| 11:44.34 | abrotman | dpkg: tell OUTsider about blank |
| 11:44.38 | OUTsider | " + letter |
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| 11:46.28 | OUTsider | dpms is for the monitor... |
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| 11:46.43 | OUTsider | I'm talking about the systemfreeze itself where it goes into some kind of sleep mode |
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| 11:46.55 | abrotman | oh, suspend/hibernate |
| 11:47.25 | OUTsider | well, not really suspend |
| 11:47.49 | OUTsider | coz the system remains fully active, it's just that it takes a while to 'resume' when I wanna work on it again |
| 11:47.51 | abrotman | Perhaps you should think about what you're trying to fix so we don't ahve to keep guessing |
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| 11:48.48 | OUTsider | e.g. screen goes blank, and after a few hours when I resume, the clock kinda shows me when it freezed, tries to reload everything in background and 'continues' (terminals with tail in em scroll on etc) |
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| 11:49.37 | mangekyo | ey |
| 11:49.53 | OUTsider | abrotman, getting a clue what I mean ? :) |
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| 11:49.58 | mangekyo | trying to install nmap and getting errors |
| 11:50.10 | abrotman | OUTsider: power saving mode, what's your DE? |
| 11:50.11 | mangekyo | bill:~# dpkg --install nmap.deb |
| 11:50.16 | mangekyo | dpkg-deb: file `nmap.deb' contains ununderstood data member data.tar.xz , giving up |
| 11:50.27 | OUTsider | gnome3 |
| 11:50.53 | OUTsider | must indeed be some form of power save I cannot find anything decently about on the web |
| 11:50.56 | Brigo | mangekyo, this nmap is not from debian. |
| 11:51.10 | OUTsider | mangekyo, apt-get install nmap |
| 11:51.54 | mangekyo | i dont have internet access where im installing |
| 11:52.07 | cisco987 | wat |
| 11:52.23 | mangekyo | i downloaded this one |
| 11:52.23 | mangekyo | https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/i386/nmap/download |
| 11:52.45 | mangekyo | bill:~# uname -a |
| 11:52.45 | mangekyo | Linux bill 2.6.26-2-686 #1 SMP Wed Feb 10 08:59:21 UTC 2010 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 11:52.58 | mangekyo | Debian GNU/Linux 5.0 \n \l |
| 11:53.09 | abrotman | uh .. no |
| 11:53.13 | abrotman | mangekyo: That won't work |
| 11:53.16 | cisco987 | wheezy is debian 7.0 |
| 11:53.25 | mangekyo | i see |
| 11:53.35 | mangekyo | https://packages.debian.org/stable/nmap |
| 11:53.38 | mangekyo | which one do i need from there? |
| 11:53.42 | abrotman | OUTsider: Gnome has a power management internface |
| 11:53.47 | abrotman | mangekyo: none, you're not using stable |
| 11:53.53 | abrotman | dpkg: tell mangekyo about archive |
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| 11:54.06 | mangekyo | huh ? |
| 11:54.25 | Brigo | mangekyo, apt-get install nmap --print-uris |
| 11:54.32 | mangekyo | that goes out to internet? |
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| 11:54.47 | Brigo | mangekyo, will give you the links to the files you need to download. |
| 11:54.48 | OUTsider | abrotman: suspend when inactive is turned off in AC mode, and it still does that |
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| 11:55.13 | abrotman | OUTsider: perhaps it's in your BIOS? Mine doesn't do such a thing (as much as I wish it did) |
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| 11:55.17 | mangekyo | im afraid it didnt |
| 11:55.24 | mangekyo | it gave me some cdrom output |
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| 11:55.43 | m4tr1x | hi |
| 11:55.43 | OUTsider | abrotman: nothing specific in there, but then again, there is nothing much to tweak there (HP 655) |
| 11:55.57 | m4tr1x | it's the right channel for debian-live issue? |
| 11:56.07 | abrotman | m4tr1x: #debian-live on irc.oftc.net |
| 11:56.12 | abrotman | mangekyo: archive.debian.org |
| 11:56.19 | Brigo | mangekyo, if you have the cdrom you can install from there. |
| 11:56.32 | m4tr1x | thanks abrotman |
| 11:56.35 | m4tr1x | bye |
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| 11:57.10 | OUTsider | abrotman: could it have to do something with amd's E2 vision ? |
| 11:57.34 | mangekyo | ok |
| 11:57.40 | mangekyo | i NEED to install from a package that i manually download |
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| 11:58.11 | mangekyo | do i need squeeze? |
| 11:58.28 | OUTsider | mangekyo, http://archive.debian.net/lenny/i386/nmap |
| 11:58.30 | abrotman | mangekyo: you're on Lenny |
| 11:58.37 | mangekyo | lenny? wtf lol |
| 11:58.38 | abrotman | and so very insecure |
| 11:58.41 | mangekyo | how can i tell that ? |
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| 11:58.52 | OUTsider | abrotman, hence why it's not connected to internet :P |
| 11:59.29 | sadsagfjg12 | what is directory sources.list ?2 directory |
| 11:59.55 | OUTsider | mangekyo, go to http://archive.debian.net/lenny/i386/nmap, download it from there, and try again |
| 12:00.01 | abrotman | sadsagfjg12: /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 12:00.20 | OUTsider | mangekyo, make sure the required packages (and versions) for it are also present |
| 12:00.25 | mangekyo | awesome ta |
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| 12:00.30 | sadsagfjg12 | abrotman: other directory? |
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| 12:01.09 | OUTsider | mangekyo, when you try to install it, it will complain about the versions it doesn't have yet |
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| 12:01.24 | abrotman | sadsagfjg12: I told you where |
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| 12:01.37 | OUTsider | mangekyo, however, I (and probably a bunch of others here) strongly suggest to upgrade |
| 12:01.39 | mangekyo | how can i tell what the required packages are |
| 12:01.46 | OUTsider | they are listed there |
| 12:01.57 | sadsagfjg12 | abrotman: okay but i have 2 directory sources.list |
| 12:02.02 | abrotman | ... |
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| 12:02.25 | OUTsider | mangekyo, read between 'Other Packages Related to nmap' and 'Download nmap' |
| 12:02.57 | mangekyo | god. this seems like a pain in the ass |
| 12:03.15 | OUTsider | mangekyo, however, if the 'location' of that ancient box is close, you might just want to install the package, and it will tell you what it misses |
| 12:03.27 | OUTsider | from there you click on the package, download, install, loop until done |
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| 12:04.32 | mangekyo | yeah |
| 12:04.37 | mangekyo | have to install, see what its missing and repeat right ? |
| 12:05.01 | OUTsider | yeah, and with repeat it implies: get whats missing, install |
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| 12:06.16 | OUTsider | sadsagfjg12, it's a file, not a directory, it tells apt where to fetch packages from etc |
| 12:06.26 | mangekyo | wth... suddenly this page doesnt go to nmap anymore |
| 12:06.26 | mangekyo | http://archive.debian.net/lenny/i386/nmap |
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| 12:06.39 | OUTsider | mangekyo, where ya from ? |
| 12:06.51 | mangekyo | WTH |
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| 12:06.55 | mangekyo | only if i click the link it works? |
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| 12:07.20 | mangekyo | aus |
| 12:07.26 | OUTsider | mangekyo, http://archive.debian.org/debian-archive/debian/pool/main/n/nmap/nmap_4.62-1_i386.deb |
| 12:07.35 | KolK | Hi! I need lightweight desktop environment for my notebook. Now I'm using MATE but I'd like to test KDE 3 (or Trinity). Have you any experiences with these envs? |
| 12:07.36 | OUTsider | downloads for me |
| 12:07.55 | OUTsider | lightweight and kde ? |
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| 12:08.53 | rypervenche | Is "update-initramfs -u" the correct command to run to update my initramfs on Wheezy after making an LVM change? |
| 12:09.26 | OUTsider | man update-initramfs |
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| 12:10.32 | mangekyo | WORKS |
| 12:10.34 | mangekyo | tyvm friends |
| 12:10.43 | OUTsider | enjoy |
| 12:10.52 | mangekyo | the pen test continues |
| 12:11.06 | OUTsider | pen test from insecure box :P |
| 12:11.20 | mangekyo | of course |
| 12:11.25 | mangekyo | pivoting from a machine i powned |
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| 12:19.47 | rypervenche | OUTsider: My question was more whether or not that was the correct command to run. I am not on said machine right to be able to check the man page. |
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| 12:20.38 | rypervenche | OUTsider: I'll check the options before I run it. Just wanted to make sure that that is the correct/recommended command to be using for this. |
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| 12:21.08 | OUTsider | should be the one according to the manual |
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| 12:21.23 | OUTsider | plain -u should just update using latest kernel |
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| 12:22.58 | OUTsider | you could use -u -k all |
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| 12:25.01 | arcsky | how can i see how accurate my hardware clock is? |
| 12:25.08 | rypervenche | OUTsider: Ok. Thanks. |
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| 12:26.38 | proj | How can i fix this error?: http://gyazo.com/2c982652a6a3d2e832e269a209c492cf I've downloaded libboost-dev "sudo apt-get install libboost-dev" but the error still remains the same. |
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| 12:27.00 | OUTsider | arcke, ntpdate -d <ntpserver(s)> |
| 12:27.26 | Zharf | proj, apt-cache search libboost # and figure it out from there |
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| 12:28.20 | proj | Zharf: Thanks, what do you mean figuring it out from there; what am i looking for? |
| 12:28.31 | Zharf | proj, the error tells you what you need |
| 12:28.42 | Zharf | the search provides you what's available |
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| 12:29.45 | OUTsider | s/arcke/arksky btw |
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| 12:33.07 | sadsagfjg12 | i installed awesome how to start it?(awesome=windows managar) |
| 12:34.35 | treaki | hi, am using debian testing (downgraded from sid) and have a problem using virtualbox |
| 12:34.40 | treaki | ive got used to /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup to build the kernel module but that isnt working anymore |
| 12:34.46 | treaki | ive got this error: http://ep.treaki.tk/p/sAg6hlWAnX |
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| 12:35.05 | treaki | what can i do to get virtualbox running again? |
| 12:35.40 | sadsagfjg12 | lxsameer: man vaghtoi awesome ra nasb kardam ra ba che dasturi bazesh konam? |
| 12:35.44 | sadsagfjg12 | i installed awesome how to start it?(awesome=windows managar) |
| 12:35.58 | ChrisH | treaki: repaste to paste.debian.net please the given server does not answer in proper time |
| 12:36.08 | treaki | sadsagfjg12, check your xinit (manpage) or your desktop manager |
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| 12:36.42 | treaki | ChrisH, yes it requieres javascript, mom... |
| 12:36.50 | sadsagfjg12 | treaki: i dont have xinit or desktop managar |
| 12:36.52 | sine0 | is there a way to install debian via ssh ? I want to put the cd in and let the computer boot headless, and then try to connect to it over ssh to do the install, is that possible |
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| 12:37.26 | sine0 | so auto sshd server for me to connect to |
| 12:37.40 | treaki | sadsagfjg12, if you are using a grafical system you sould have one of this, maybe you dont know about it |
| 12:37.47 | treaki | ChrisH, https://paste.debian.net/129385/ |
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| 12:38.21 | sadsagfjg12 | treaki: i know do i install xinit ? |
| 12:38.55 | sadsagfjg12 | treaki: i in cli |
| 12:38.56 | treaki | sadsagfjg12, read the man page, use google or whatever to lern about desktop managers or xinit |
| 12:39.23 | ChrisH | treaki: root cause is: "No suitable module for running kernel" Looks like the header package is not installed for your running kernel |
| 12:40.27 | treaki | ChrisH, sounds like a good idea, i will try that... what is the new command which dose the same then /etc/init.d/vboxdrv |
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| 12:41.38 | ChrisH | treaki: aptitude serach linux-headers and install the missing/needed one. |
| 12:41.44 | treaki | sadsagfjg12, maybe i can give you some more hints, what window manager have you used before on your system? |
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| 12:41.56 | treaki | ChrisH, still installing... |
| 12:42.19 | cisco987 | it should be linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
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| 12:43.09 | treaki | cisco987, ChrisH, i am just using linux-headers-amd64 which is also my kernel... |
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| 12:44.59 | cisco987 | as far as i know it should be linux-header:x86_64 |
| 12:45.03 | cisco987 | as far as i know it should be linux-headers:x86_64 |
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| 12:47.00 | metalight | i wonder for how long other init systems than systemd will stick around in future debian |
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| 12:51.14 | Stummi | metala, I hope there will still be a choice in future |
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| 12:51.38 | Stummi | but thats OT here I think |
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| 12:52.15 | pfote | +1 for choice nevertheless |
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| 12:55.30 | gtristan | thinks its inappropriate to stifle OT discussion at a time when the channel is not booming with on-topic questions anyway (off topic discussion is normally only discouraged when it hinders on topic discussion) |
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| 12:57.01 | heurist` | gtristan: or when it makes supporters look at the irc windows to see who needs help, only to see that no one does, (: |
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| 12:58.20 | gtristan | heurist`, well, I think if people started asking questions suddenly appeared, they'd probably get noticed... |
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| 12:58.45 | gtristan | heurist`, rather, the hundreds of people leaving/joining seems to push everything to the backlog, that's a bigger problem ;-) |
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| 12:59.07 | gtristan | ask a question, 2 minutes later it's already lost in the backlog from leavers/joiners, heh |
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| 12:59.33 | heurist` | gtristan: a good irc client does not waste space with join/part messages. |
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| 13:00.04 | gtristan | should see what features his xchat provides |
| 13:00.35 | ChrisH | gtristan: check for /IGNORE |
| 13:00.37 | gtristan | heurist`, honestly I don't normally hang out in such high-volume channels either |
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| 13:02.08 | heurist` | gtristan: I do not "hang out" i anything, but when there is movement in a channel I swap to it and take a look, only to see that it does not need my help. this makes me sad, and less likely to help, which also make me sad. |
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| 13:03.56 | gtristan | heurist`, I normally swap to dev channels with activity, to see if someone is talking about implementing an interesting feature that I might want to discuss, I do call this 'hanging out', but I can see that for a 'tech support' channel this might be different, especially with the alarmingly high volume of questions which appear at times |
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| 13:05.51 | heurist` | gtristan: yeah, support, dev, and social, channels have different protocols for ot stuff. |
| 13:06.09 | gtristan | heurist`, sorry for making assumptions :) |
| 13:06.56 | gtristan | heurist`, and appreciate your explaining that side to me as I hadn't considered that |
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| 13:07.35 | heurist` | gtristan: that is why I took the time, and considered it on topic for the channel. (: |
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| 13:08.29 | heurist` | gtristan: try the #centos channel, we are really strict about ot over there. makes it a really nice place to provide support in. |
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| 13:11.20 | metalight | seeing that chromium gets a few patches applied in debian (sid, if that matters) - i would like to propose the "snapback feature" patched for better integration.. where should i propose such a thing? (see http://goo.gl/8ffMbI for details) |
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| 13:12.46 | AR45 | Hello, I'm using Debian and have a hard drive in my machine that's given some issues. Does anyone know of some technical steps to take to determine the problem or should I just yank it out and consider it broken? |
| 13:13.02 | gtristan | heurist`, heh... I think I'll pass, not used to that ;-) |
| 13:13.19 | heurist` | AR45: what sort of issues? |
| 13:13.28 | Shadow_7 | any magic trick for freetype2? adding -I/usr/include/freetype2 does not seem to do the trick. ft2build.h can't find ftheader.h |
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| 13:13.43 | AR45 | heurist`: it wasn't able to be mounted during the installation process of debian altough it was recognized |
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| 13:14.07 | heurist` | dpkg: tell AR45 -about details |
| 13:14.54 | AR45 | heurist`: well to be honest I'm not quite sure what the problem is and was seeking some technical ways here to determine the issue |
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| 13:15.51 | gtristan | Shadow_7, pango's configure.ac uses pkg-config with the package name 'freetype2', if that's any help |
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| 13:16.01 | petn-randall | AR45: Well, the details matter. How did you find out it couldn't be mounted? |
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| 13:16.22 | petn-randall | AR45: Did you get any error messages, did the disk start doing funny noises? Etc. |
| 13:16.24 | heurist` | AR45: the installation process is not the best place to diagnose errors. if you can, boot a rescue system or a liveImage and check the drive. |
| 13:16.40 | jleclanche | I have one server running testing completely up to date. I have another server running wheezy. I'm upgrading the latter to testing. First server doesn't have systemd, yet the latter asks to install it. How come? (Note that I don't mind, I just heard it's extremely buggy in debian testing still) |
| 13:17.13 | AR45 | petn-randall: well it gave me a notification that it cannot mount imput/output on the drive |
| 13:17.20 | heurist` | jleclanche: systemd is the default init system in jessie now. it probably was not when you did the other system |
| 13:17.39 | AR45 | petn-randall: I ended up installing debian on a 4GB flash drive and that's how I'm able to use this laptop at the moment |
| 13:17.46 | heurist` | dpkg: tell AR45 -about errors |
| 13:17.46 | jleclanche | heurist`: what's the upgrade path for the first system then? |
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| 13:18.40 | petn-randall | jleclanche: If you want, you can just install systemd and be over with it. It's just the default, the system will still work fine with sysv init. |
| 13:18.42 | AR45 | heurist`: okay brb |
| 13:19.00 | heurist` | jleclanche: probably gone. testing is a moving target, and you can not go back in time. |
| 13:19.19 | petn-randall | *cough*snapshot.debian.org*cough* |
| 13:19.28 | heurist` | AR45: if you are in a working debian (on the flash drive you can diagnose the drive) from there. |
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| 13:19.49 | jleclanche | heurist`, petn-randall: Ok, cool. Have the systemd issues on debian been ironed out? A month or so back I heard some reports about unbootable machines |
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| 13:20.37 | heurist` | jleclanche: if you are booting testing you may have issues, systemd is not likely to be the most one that gets you. (: questions about jessie are better addressed to #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
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| 13:21.00 | jleclanche | alright, thanks |
| 13:21.28 | petn-randall | jleclanche: Been running it for a year now, never had boot issues because of systemd. See you in #debian-next. |
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| 13:21.52 | hfp | Hi all! I got rid of php5 on my debian server and uninstalled it with `apt-get remove php*`. However, `php5-fpm` is still listed when I type `service <TAB>`. It doesn't seem to react to start stop disable or status. How can I remove it from there? |
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| 13:22.54 | petn-randall | hfp: What does dpkg -l '*php*' list you? â http://paste.debian.net |
| 13:23.05 | heurist` | hfp: check if php5-fpm is not still installed. purge the removed packages. |
| 13:23.05 | quitte_ | does anyone know of a channel for linux on bay trail ? |
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| 13:26.20 | Trieste | uh, guys |
| 13:26.38 | Trieste | do I need a separate /boot partition if I'm installing a system to run from a flash drive? |
| 13:26.41 | Shadow_7 | gtristan: installing libpango1.0-dev seemed to help, but also installed the pkg-config parts it was pre-error mentioning like xrandr |
| 13:27.20 | Shadow_7 | for yacc? 9base? or byacc? compiling cwm btw. But not the older one 2009 that I've used a lot and uses byacc. |
| 13:27.33 | gtristan | Shadow_7, When you say 'any magick for freetype', you mean, building something that depends on freetype right ? not building freetype itself |
| 13:27.41 | heurist` | Trieste: you should not need one anymore, not unless you are doing fancy partitioning/ |
| 13:27.47 | Trieste | yay |
| 13:27.57 | Trieste | so I just install GRUB/Syslinux, and go on my way? |
| 13:28.04 | Shadow_7 | gtristan: getting a compile error about freetype, not actually building freetype |
| 13:28.11 | heurist` | Trieste: should work. |
| 13:28.17 | Trieste | brilliant |
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| 13:28.24 | jjavaholic | at the moment the fact that I can't seem to remove the services stands as a long list of malware services that I haven't been able to clear from the system |
| 13:28.25 | Shadow_7 | gtristan: although seems to be past that for now and onto other errors |
| 13:28.33 | gtristan | Shadow_7, I only suggested looking at pango's configure.ac since it's a package which is very successful at finding ft2 ;-) |
| 13:29.09 | gtristan | Shadow_7, but I guess installing pango's dev package would help in getting the right headers and deps installed for something else which builds against ft2 |
| 13:29.20 | Shadow_7 | it's a fresh install, rebuilding after a HDD failure. And a few bits I do from sources. Like povray, cwm, ... |
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| 13:29.25 | heurist` | jjavaholic: missing some context. but, wipe the drive. |
| 13:29.38 | treaki | Trieste, the question is if your firmware (bios, uefi, whatever) is able to read the partition, maybe your old bios isnt able ot read beyond lba x than you need a small /boot partition at the beginning of your storage device, but normally it isnt necessary |
| 13:30.00 | koolfy | Mh, if IÂ add Dpkg::Options { "--force-confdef"; "--force-confold"; } to /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades, will it only affect unattended-upgrades runs? Or all apt actions ? |
| 13:30.21 | gtristan | Shadow_7, I'm afraid I can't be much help personally, I often build entire relocated stacks by hand, but the debian specific details still escape me |
| 13:31.05 | gtristan | Shadow_7, also, freetype and fontconfig are usually difficult to configure correctly :-/ |
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| 13:31.27 | Shadow_7 | I had a long list of by hand -lxxx stuff when I compiled povray on this raspberry pi |
| 13:32.24 | Shadow_7 | gtristan: well past the ft2build.h error anyway. Probably because of libpango1.0-dev being installed |
| 13:32.46 | gtristan | Shadow_7, quite possible yes |
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| 13:33.53 | Shadow_7 | the current project is an old xp gaming laptop that I use for youtube and hulu. Not quite sure how it was a gaming laptop with an intel graphics chipset. But 2.8GHz 32 bit CPU is kind of nice. |
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| 13:34.47 | jelly | Shadow_7: Solitaire is a game! |
| 13:35.03 | Shadow_7 | as is minesweeper |
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| 13:35.41 | treaki | ok, i have to reboot to checkout my new kernel... have a nice day everyon and thanks for your help ChrisH and cisco987 |
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| 13:37.01 | Shadow_7 | gtristan: looks like byacc is still providing yacc for the portable bsd type projects. |
| 13:37.45 | Shadow_7 | wish apt-file would hint at that, instead of relaying on the old grey matter |
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| 13:39.58 | lroe | Hoping I don't start a flame war, but I am seriously asking. What problems with sysvinit are systemd trying to solve? I know sysvinit was rough before dependency-based booting, but I don't know of any serious complaints since then |
| 13:40.00 | Shadow_7 | lol... that moment... when you realize... a debootstrap base system does not include xterm |
| 13:40.19 | koolfy | anyone knows if Dpkg::Options set in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades affect only unattended-uprades or all apt executions system-wide ? :( |
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| 13:40.25 | koolfy | I'd guess not but... |
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| 13:41.00 | heurist` | dpkg: tell lroe -about why systemd |
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| 13:44.57 | Iridos | well, well |
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| 13:45.47 | heurist` | koolfy: I would guess is looks in all files in the directory, it has no real way of knowing that a filename has special meaning to you. you would need to constrain the options with proper Dpkg::.+ { } clauses. test it for yourself though, since I am just guessing. |
| 13:46.27 | jjavaholic | is it safe to remove Hkey_local_machine\system\currentControlSet\services with empty default subkeys? |
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| 13:47.10 | heurist` | jjavaholic: you lost? (: this is debian and debian has no hkey_local_machine. |
| 13:47.56 | jjavaholic | yes sorry wrong channel |
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| 13:49.15 | koolfy | ok thanks heurist` |
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| 13:49.53 | lroe | heurist`, thanks for the link |
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| 13:52.33 | hfp | petn-randall: http://paste.debian.net/129402/ |
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| 13:53.50 | heurist` | hfp: aptitude purge '~c' |
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| 13:56.34 | petn-randall | hfp: the init script is a config file. If you remove a package, it will keep the config so it doesn't get lost. If you want to delete that, too, purge the package. heurist` suggestion will purge all packages that have been removed. |
| 13:57.02 | hfp | petn-randall, heurist`: Will try that, thank you! |
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| 13:59.06 | petn-randall | hfp: You're welcome! :) Come back if you have further questions. |
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| 14:00.06 | hfp | petn-randall: Just one more actually, when I run the command heurist` suggested, it also lists packages currently installed such as `docker`. Why is that? I haven't removed docker and I would very much like to keep it installed |
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| 14:01.19 | petn-randall | hfp: Can you paste the whole output? |
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| 14:01.57 | hfp | http://paste.debian.net/129405/ |
| 14:02.02 | heurist` | hfp: ~c is "Select packages that were removed but not purged." so it should affect anything that is not in that state. see http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s03s05.html |
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| 14:03.45 | heurist` | hfp: that docker may not be the docker you are looking for. see aptitude search docker |
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| 14:04.35 | hfp | heurist`: ah yes indeed, it is a KDE/GNOME package. |
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| 14:06.10 | hfp | I ran the command, the system didn't explode, I think I'm fine |
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| 14:10.20 | DrSkyLizard | Is there a Python 3.4 package ? |
| 14:10.26 | DrSkyLizard | in Debian GNU/Linux 7.7 (wheezy) |
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| 14:10.53 | somiaj | ,v python3 |
| 14:10.55 | judd | Package: python3 on i386 -- squeeze: 3.1.3-12+squeeze1; wheezy: 3.2.3-6; sid: 3.4.2-1; jessie: 3.4.2-1 |
| 14:11.29 | somiaj | DrSkyLizard: nope, you can get 3.2.3, and since python is a core package that manythings might depend on it isn't easy to put another version as the default. |
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| 14:11.40 | somiaj | DrSkyLizard: you could run it in a jessie chroot though. |
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| 14:12.07 | DrSkyLizard | Python 3.2 sucks! |
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| 14:12.27 | DrSkyLizard | Flask doesn't work on it |
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| 14:16.10 | somiaj | DrSkyLizard: well debian stable is a frozen system, 3.2 was the version that froze with it and is what is available. If you need something newer you can run it in a chroot, or take on a very complicated task of installing it locally and make sure that it dosen't interfere with the debian scripts and pacakges that could break if accidently run in 3.4 |
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| 14:16.30 | somiaj | again putting it in a jessie chroot will work and give you access to 3.4 without havnig to muk with your stable install. |
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| 14:19.22 | Freeaqingme| | Hi folks. Icinga just stopped performing checks after a reload command was executed. There was one icinga process left: /usr/sbin/icinga2 --no-stack-rlimit -c /etc/icinga2/icinga2.conf -u nagios -g nagios -d -e /var/log/icinga2/icinga2.err --reload-internal 31475 |
| 14:19.50 | Freeaqingme| | oops. wrong channel. --> #icinga |
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| 14:20.31 | idl0r | is it possible to have multiple versions of a package within a reprepro managed repo? |
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| 14:21.22 | petn-randall | idl0r: AFAIR that wasn't possible. What is the reason you want to do that? |
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| 14:22.54 | idl0r | petn-randall: well, we may need an older version for host A while B may use a more recent one |
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| 14:23.47 | petn-randall | idl0r: In that case it makes more sense to have separate repos, otherwise you'll have to start pinning packages by hand to achieve that. |
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| 14:25.19 | idl0r | petn-randall: thanks. that's how i do it currently |
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| 14:32.13 | Sander^s | dpkg-reconfigure kernel-image-2.6.. gives me. mkinitrd add_modules_dep_2_5: modprobe failed\n FATAL: module mptspi not found; WARNING: this failure MAY indicate that your kernel will not boot! But it can also be triggered by neded modules beeing compild into the kernel. |
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| 14:32.32 | petn-randall | Sander^s: Which release are you running? |
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| 14:33.17 | TyrfingMjolnir | I would like to have an init script |
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| 14:33.37 | TyrfingMjolnir | I looked at this one: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Initscripts/Writing_rc.d_scripts |
| 14:33.46 | TyrfingMjolnir | But there are errors when run on debian 7.x |
| 14:33.52 | Sander^s | petn-randall: sad to say it, but i'm trying to get a debian 3.1 physical box migrated to vmware 5.5 |
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| 14:34.59 | Sander^s | I see that module is missing on this machine.. but located here on another machine with a newer kernel: ./drivers/message/fusion/mptspi.ko |
| 14:35.05 | TyrfingMjolnir | debian 3.1? |
| 14:35.07 | petn-randall | !tell TyrfingMjolnir -about details |
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| 14:35.53 | Sander^s | TyrfingMjolnir: debian sarge. |
| 14:35.54 | petn-randall | Sander^s: Debian 3.1 has been out of support for quite a while. Is there a reason you can't migrate to a supported version? |
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| 14:36.25 | TyrfingMjolnir | Sander^s: How are you migrating? |
| 14:36.37 | TyrfingMjolnir | I would dd then convert from raw to vmdk |
| 14:36.47 | TyrfingMjolnir | Is there a reason for not using something real? |
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| 14:36.52 | TyrfingMjolnir | Like project-fifo? |
| 14:37.00 | Sander^s | petn-randall: Its work in progress, but first step is to migrate it to vmware, i'm using p2v. I did boot the machine up and did: update-initrd and update-grub |
| 14:37.02 | TyrfingMjolnir | Why move to vmware? |
| 14:37.07 | Sander^s | TyrfingMjolnir: ^^ |
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| 14:37.31 | TyrfingMjolnir | I still have som boxes running 2.0 |
| 14:37.31 | Sander^s | I did boot it with a rescue cd I mean. |
| 14:37.53 | Trieste | Hi, I want to create an install that lives on a flash-drive, how do I set up grub? |
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| 14:38.39 | Sander^s | TyrfingMjolnir: vmware p2v takes a tar of the physical disk image, and works the magic. But in this case, It boots without beeing able to see the harddrives, no such device for /dev/sda1 |
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| 14:39.11 | michel_ | Trieste: try http://www.pendrivelinux.com/install-grub2-on-usb-from-ubuntu-linux/ |
| 14:39.17 | petn-randall | Trieste: You just need to install grub onto the flash drive. Make sure it has a normal partition table to work from. |
| 14:39.18 | mtn | Trieste: grub would be installed to the mbr of the flash-drive |
| 14:39.46 | Enekk | I'm having a bit of a problem. Some windows (not all) and some sliders (e.g. the brightness controls) in Debian Jessie are "Jumpy". When dragging them they jump all over the place. |
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| 14:40.16 | Enekk | The windows are especially problematic, they resize to random sizes while I drag |
| 14:40.24 | Trieste | petn-randall: right, I'm chrooted to the flash drive, but just doing "grub-install /dev/sdX" ends up with me getting a flash drive which just boots up into grub |
| 14:41.13 | mtn | Enekk: sounds like a video driver problem. what is your card/chip? |
| 14:41.28 | Enekk | Nvidia card with latest drivers |
| 14:41.32 | Trieste | and the /boot/grub/default file is pretty much empty, except for a single line "default" |
| 14:41.43 | Trieste | I don't think that's correct, but I don't know how to fix that |
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| 14:42.11 | Trieste | I'm installing wheezy, by the way |
| 14:42.21 | Enekk | GeForce GT 560M to be precise |
| 14:42.23 | mtn | Enekk: well, nvidia and jessie ;) may be better tomorrow ;) also, you could try #debian-next on oftc.net |
| 14:42.39 | somiaj | Trieste: I personally suggest using a debian-live image plus persistance. A usb flashdrive is not really a replacement for a hd in terms of performance. |
| 14:42.56 | Trieste | somiaj: unfortunately, it's what I have to work with |
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| 14:43.06 | Sander^s | TyrfingMjolnir: ouch, thats pretty old. |
| 14:43.11 | Enekk | mtn: So, you think it is a video driver issue. Interesting. |
| 14:43.15 | somiaj | Trieste: which is why I say I suggest a live image + persistance as oppsed to a standard install. |
| 14:43.26 | Enekk | mtn: what leads you down that path |
| 14:43.30 | TyrfingMjolnir | Sander^s: Not sure those are actually turned on. |
| 14:43.31 | Trieste | somiaj: what do you mean by a "live image + persistence", then? |
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| 14:43.50 | mtn | Enekk: video problems are usually caused by video drivers. what else would it be? |
| 14:43.50 | somiaj | Trieste: http://live.debian.net/manual/1.x/html/persistence.html |
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| 14:44.04 | TyrfingMjolnir | Bet those are cloned and upgraded to potato or woody |
| 14:44.19 | TyrfingMjolnir | But I still have them, G3/266 Desktops |
| 14:44.24 | Enekk | mtn: I'm not sure, I guess it didn't occur to me to think of that as a video function. Obviously it is. |
| 14:44.33 | somiaj | Trieste: your isntall is just a standard live system, but then you can either include some additional part of the usb drive to store personal data (home) or even to store config/software changes. But the root is you are running a live system. |
| 14:44.59 | Trieste | somiaj: that actually sounds like what I want, but how does a "live system" differ from a standard install? |
| 14:45.16 | Enekk | mtn: I wonder why it happens on the brightness slider, but not volume |
| 14:45.23 | somiaj | Trieste: a live system is a collection of packges that are loaded into memeory and then you are running your os from memeory |
| 14:45.29 | Enekk | mtn: Or why all windows aren't affected |
| 14:45.56 | TyrfingMjolnir | I still find the graphic installers offensive. |
| 14:45.57 | somiaj | Trieste: so your root file system is actually a tmpfs file system and it just loads things off the read only image as it needs. A normal install doesn't have this abstraciton as it runs right off the medium you install it on |
| 14:46.06 | mtn | Enekk: hard to say. still likely to be linked to nvidia driver |
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| 14:46.23 | somiaj | Trieste: this limits the number of read/writes needed to the actual usb drive. The disavantage is your changes are rest each time you boot. Hence that is what persistance is for. |
| 14:46.25 | Enekk | mnt: Thanks, that gives me a foothold to start looking into it |
| 14:46.25 | mtn | Enekk: and as you know, jessie is a moving target |
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| 14:46.33 | mtn | Enekk: welcome |
| 14:46.52 | Sander^s | petn-randall: TyrfingMjolnir: Do you have any idea why the machine isnt seeing the harddrive? |
| 14:47.08 | TyrfingMjolnir | Sander^s: You are in the VM? |
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| 14:47.20 | Sander^s | TyrfingMjolnir: no, i'm on a rescuecd. |
| 14:47.26 | TyrfingMjolnir | A |
| 14:47.29 | TyrfingMjolnir | h |
| 14:47.37 | TyrfingMjolnir | You will probably need to load some drivers. |
| 14:47.40 | TyrfingMjolnir | Which kernel? |
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| 14:48.15 | Sander^s | TyrfingMjolnir: 2.6.8-3-686-smp |
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| 14:48.42 | somiaj | Trieste: another disavantage to consider is you are running most stuff in memory. If you wanted to do very memory intesive stuff (which requires a swap) or on a machine with very little memory this may not be the best. But those machine would be old and running an install of off usb1.0 may be a pain. (: |
| 14:48.55 | Sander^s | TyrfingMjolnir: zcat initrd-...gz | strings | grep sd_mod displays: alias block-major-8 sd_mod \n full/path/to/kernel/drivers/scsi/sd_mod.ko: /full/path/to/scsi_mod.ko |
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| 14:49.23 | Trieste | somiaj: this is actually intended to be a kiosk install, so I'd pretty much do the r/o root thing anyway |
| 14:49.42 | Trieste | although I do need autologin and other customization, I don't know if a live debian install can do that |
| 14:50.03 | TyrfingMjolnir | Sander^s: Is the scsi driver the one used when you boot from HDD? |
| 14:50.12 | somiaj | Trieste: persistance may get that to work |
| 14:50.23 | Sander^s | TyrfingMjolnir: how do I see that? |
| 14:50.36 | somiaj | Trieste: but live.debian.net -- debian live is more than live images, it is a complete tool set to make your own custom live imges. You could create a custom live image just for your kiosk |
| 14:50.37 | TyrfingMjolnir | You boot from hdd and do lsmod |
| 14:50.38 | TyrfingMjolnir | I assume |
| 14:50.46 | TyrfingMjolnir | dmesg will most likely tell you also |
| 14:51.05 | TyrfingMjolnir | sda? hda? |
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| 14:51.11 | somiaj | Trieste: though making your onw live image may take a bit of learning and for most a standard live image + persistance will do what they want. |
| 14:51.12 | Sander^s | TyrfingMjolnir: when I boot from hd, I'm unable read /dev/sda |
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| 14:51.41 | TyrfingMjolnir | Sander^s: The system does not work on the hardware you want to clone? |
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| 14:53.29 | TyrfingMjolnir | Anything interesting in: cat /proc/scsi/scsi ? |
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| 14:55.16 | Sander^s | TyrfingMjolnir: within the rescue cd I see mptspi scsi sg device_info |
| 14:55.44 | somiaj | Trieste: but back to your grub problem, could it be an issue with grub finding the correct location of /boot when booting from the usb drive that it isn't loading all the options only leaving default |
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| 14:56.12 | TyrfingMjolnir | Sander^s: I think it's more intersting to look there after you know what you are looking for |
| 14:56.23 | Sander^s | TyrfingMjolnir: dpkg-reconfigure kernel-image-2.6.8-3-686 gives me: mkinitrd add_modules_dep_2_5: modprobe failed\n FATAL: module mptspi not found |
| 14:56.43 | Sander^s | when inside the chroot |
| 14:56.49 | TyrfingMjolnir | Where are you booted? |
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| 14:56.58 | TyrfingMjolnir | Are you on the actual hardware? |
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| 14:57.17 | jelly | ,v dovecot |
| 14:57.18 | judd | No package named 'dovecot' was found in i386. |
| 14:57.22 | TyrfingMjolnir | Can you reboot the machine from the HDD itself? |
| 14:57.23 | jelly | ,v dovecot-imapd |
| 14:57.25 | judd | Package: dovecot-imapd on i386 -- squeeze: 1:1.2.15-7; squeeze-security: 1:1.2.15-7; squeeze-security-lts: 1:1.2.15-7+deb6u1; squeeze-backports: 1:2.1.7-7~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1:2.1.7-7+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 1:2.1.7-7+deb7u1; wheezy-backports: 1:2.2.9-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 1:2.2.13-5; sid: 1:2.2.13-6; experimental: 1:2.2.15-1 |
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| 14:58.26 | Sander^s | TyrfingMjolnir: yes, on the new vmware 5.5, with a rescue cd (using sysrecuecd 2.10 with 2.6.x kernel) |
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| 14:58.52 | TyrfingMjolnir | Why not go to hardware itself and make an image that works? |
| 14:59.24 | Sander^s | TyrfingMjolnir: becouse i'm afraid it wont boot, and then someone needs to go there physically. |
| 15:00.13 | TyrfingMjolnir | ext2 this one? |
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| 15:01.17 | Sander^s | TyrfingMjolnir: ext3 |
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| 15:02.06 | rhpk | Got this while installing a Jessie KVM guest using virt-install: http://picpaste.com/pics/2014-10-30-160020_1366x768_scrot.1414681281.png |
| 15:02.20 | TyrfingMjolnir | 1 partition? |
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| 15:03.07 | rhpk | Should I just sit and wait or can I do something to work around the problem? |
| 15:03.16 | Sander^s | TyrfingMjolnir: its /dev/sda1,2,5,6,7,8,b1,c1 |
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| 15:03.55 | TyrfingMjolnir | and the method you used to not even see 1 partition? |
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| 15:05.18 | Sander^s | TyrfingMjolnir: Nopes. I get: Bad newroot /sysroot on boot /dev/sda1 not found |
| 15:05.35 | TyrfingMjolnir | I would use dd |
| 15:06.25 | Sander^s | TyrfingMjolnir: What about generating a initrd with the mptspi.ko module? |
| 15:06.45 | TyrfingMjolnir | I never tried that |
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| 15:07.23 | Sander^s | I dont have that module for 2.6.8-3-686. But another machine with a newer 2.6 kernel where I had that one, then initrd generation worked. |
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| 15:08.41 | TyrfingMjolnir | Upgrade and then convert? |
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| 15:09.19 | Sander^s | TyrfingMjolnir: you have to bind --bind /proc and /dev and cp /bin/bash /bin/ksh and update-initrd 2.6.8-3-686 |
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| 15:09.44 | TyrfingMjolnir | definitely proc sys and one more |
| 15:09.48 | Sander^s | TyrfingMjolnir: I dont want to reboot the machine. and I tried to upgrade before converting with p2v. |
| 15:10.07 | TyrfingMjolnir | I do not know |
| 15:10.10 | TyrfingMjolnir | I would dd |
| 15:10.15 | TyrfingMjolnir | If it was my task |
| 15:10.29 | TyrfingMjolnir | Or maybe ask on vmware channel? |
| 15:10.35 | TyrfingMjolnir | There might be somebody there knowing your issue |
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| 15:11.39 | Sander^s | I've asked. and they said upgrading kernel before rebooting on old hardware.. and then migrating with p2v into vmware.. will not work. |
| 15:11.59 | Sander^s | dd might work. |
| 15:12.17 | TyrfingMjolnir | I d say it's kind of hard to work with drives you can not find |
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| 15:13.13 | Sander^s | TyrfingMjolnir: do you know where I can get the mptspi.ko module for 2.6.8-3-686? |
| 15:13.42 | Sander^s | do I need to download the kernel and compile it it as a module? |
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| 15:14.40 | Sander^s | or can I take it from another machine with a 2.6.26 kernel. |
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| 15:14.46 | TyrfingMjolnir | kernel.org |
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| 15:18.15 | petn-randall | Sander^s: Did you bind mount /dev /proc and /sys into your chroot? |
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| 15:18.47 | Sander^s | petn-randall: not /sys |
| 15:18.56 | TyrfingMjolnir | You will need all 3 |
| 15:19.11 | Sander^s | Hm, okay. So maybe worth another try then. |
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| 15:22.01 | Plee | Hello gents and geniuses :D |
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| 15:25.30 | Sander^s | petn-randall: TyrfingMjolnir; hurray. Now I got another boot message: Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs on unknown-block(0,0) |
| 15:26.00 | TyrfingMjolnir | ls -lAh /proc/scsi/ |
| 15:27.13 | TyrfingMjolnir | ls /dev/ |
| 15:27.23 | TyrfingMjolnir | is the one that might reveal if there are more drives now |
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| 15:31.56 | Sander^s | TyrfingMjolnir: ls -lAh /proc/scsi gives: device_info mptspi scsi sg (on the rescue cd) |
| 15:32.16 | TyrfingMjolnir | cat /proc/partitions |
| 15:32.29 | Plee | I was coming in here to get help on dd'ing a image onto a sd-card, but now it works :D Must be the magic of the #debian channel ;) |
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| 15:32.54 | Sander^s | TyrfingMjolnir: nothing unusual in partitions, sda,b,c there. |
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| 15:33.03 | Sander^s | and loop0 |
| 15:33.06 | TyrfingMjolnir | dmesg |
| 15:33.08 | TyrfingMjolnir | ? |
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| 15:33.21 | TyrfingMjolnir | dmesg | grep sd |
| 15:34.16 | Sander^s | mptbase: ioc0: initiating bringup |
| 15:34.37 | Sander^s | mptspui 0000. PCI INT A .. IRQ 17 |
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| 15:35.56 | Sander^s | sd sda - attached scsi generic sg1 type 0 |
| 15:36.13 | TyrfingMjolnir | does it tell you sizes? |
| 15:37.09 | Sander^s | 16GB 141GB and 141GB |
| 15:37.20 | Sander^s | sda/sdb/sdc |
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| 15:39.16 | Sander^s | I didnt mount /home /var..but I did mount /usr |
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| 16:11.50 | jamesc | http://linuxman.wikispaces.com/Bonding+plus+VLANs+on+Debian how do I enable multiple vlans on a bond interface It only works for one vlan for me |
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| 16:15.57 | eristisk | Hi all, I run VLC 2.2.0-pre4 on Debian, but the Debian packages are using libav libraries. The problem is that libav is recently unable to play back H.264 video streams from the Canon 5D Mark III correctly, it has massive corruption and frame distortion multiple times a second leading to unwatchable videos |
| 16:16.06 | eristisk | When I play the same videos with ffplay (using ffmpeg libraries), they play perfectly. |
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| 16:16.10 | ag4ve_ | is it possible to run apt as a user (read: not with sudo) ? |
| 16:16.26 | eristisk | ag4ve_: Sure you can run it. But you can't do much ;) |
| 16:17.19 | ag4ve_ | uh right. i was hoping i could use polkit or something to make it possible, but i can't seem to find something |
| 16:17.28 | ag4ve_ | s/something/anything/ |
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| 16:22.30 | ag4ve_ | ahha http://manpages.ubuntu.com/manpages/natty/man1/aptd.1.html |
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| 16:26.03 | fovab | sporadically, I am getting an error message just for setting my laptop's clock speed. "# cpufreq-set -r --min 1.2GHz --max 2GHz" gives the usual error message https://paste.debian.net/129432/ Any idea? |
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| 16:28.04 | somiaj | fovab: sounds to me like either your hardawre doesn't support that or you don't have the correct module/governor loaded to adjust that with your cpu |
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| 16:28.36 | somiaj | fovab: But I woudlnt nkow how to check/fix either (I will assume it isn't permissions since you are root) |
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| 16:35.39 | fovab | somiaj: usually, it works! It is just now and then that cpufreq complains about it! I am using the governor powersave most of the time. |
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| 16:36.42 | heurist` | fovab: does powersave allow you to set specific frequencies? sounds like you need the userspace governor |
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| 16:36.57 | fovab | somiaj: I can only change the governor at the moment, but not the clock speed which is set to 1.2-1.2 GHz at the moment!!! my cpu has 2 2.4ghz cpus |
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| 16:37.41 | fovab | heurist`: can't change freq, no matter what governor. Executing all cpufreq commands as root |
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| 16:38.19 | Sander^s | modinfo on sd_mod.ko gives: SCSI disk (sd) driver. I guess mptspi.ko is the newer version of the scsi driver.. I see sd_mod.ko on the system.. but I think update-initrd isnt using it so I can access the scsi disk. How do I force it into the initrd? |
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| 16:38.47 | neglesaks | good evening. i have just done system updates on my debian box, and the update apparently removed my pidgin app for unknown reasons. ANy suggestions? |
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| 16:39.16 | fovab | heurist`, somiaj: this might be a bug; but I am not sure and if it would be, I don't know what to report... |
| 16:39.18 | somiaj | fovab: what kernel are you using? Could it be your cpu just isn't supported? |
| 16:40.21 | fovab | somiaj: the stock wheezy kernel. And until yesterday it worked perfectly using the very same setup! (and tomorrow it will work probably again...) |
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| 16:41.03 | somiaj | fovab: ahh so this is just something that change recentaly |
| 16:41.15 | somiaj | fovab: did you do any upgrades that could have regression bug? |
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| 16:42.58 | Sander^s | Can I copy an update-initrd script from a newer distro? |
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| 16:46.21 | Ulrar | Hi, I installed lsyncd but instead of the usual lua configuration I get a weird thing looking for a xml configuration, any good documentation on how to set up remote sync with that version ? (Or any easy and clean way to install the normal version with lua ?) |
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| 16:50.55 | fovab | somiaj: it happens sporadically! Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't, then works again, than not anymore.... and so forth... |
| 16:51.29 | somiaj | fovab: so you ahve a gremlin...yea out of my experience. |
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| 16:57.48 | fovab | somiaj: what do you mean with "gremlin"? (since I found dozens of projects, fantastic creatures, etc. named so)? |
| 16:58.43 | acz32 | fovab: it's a joke |
| 16:58.51 | somiaj | fovab: some imangary creature running around your system turning it on and off, mearly a jest at the creature. |
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| 17:02.20 | jamesc | http://linuxman.wikispaces.com/Bonding+plus+VLANs+on+Debian how do I enable multiple vlans on a bond interface It only works for one vlan for me |
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| 17:05.42 | Trieste | hi, what package are the /boot/vmlinuz images in? |
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| 17:06.55 | relaxed | Trieste: dpkg -S boot/vmlinuz |
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| 17:07.08 | Trieste | relaxed: <3 |
| 17:07.09 | fovab | dpkg -S /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-4-amd64 |
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| 17:07.09 | dpkg | There is no record of a /boot/vmlinuz-3.2.0-4-amd64 package |
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| 17:07.21 | _1_j | hola |
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| 17:12.21 | neglesaks | Question: A specific package disappeared while I was doing an update earlier today. I'm trying to reinstall that packe in synaptic, but it tells me i have broken packages. |
| 17:12.41 | neglesaks | Unmarking the package for installation and telling it to fix broken packages tells me there are no problems/or all problems were fixed. |
| 17:12.48 | neglesaks | Any suggestions? |
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| 17:13.27 | naptastic | My Debian system has stopped locking the screen when I suspend it. So when it wakes up, it doesn't require a password. Have you experienced this, and do you know how to fix it? |
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| 17:13.41 | naptastic | (This actually started quite a while ago; I'm only just now getting around to asking about it.) |
| 17:15.23 | neglesaks | naptastic, check THe Brightness and Lock prefs item in your system prferences |
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| 17:16.34 | Brigo | neglesaks, can you paste the ouput of the instalation in paste.debian.net? |
| 17:16.43 | relaxed | neglesaks: I assume you're running testing/unstable. If a package's dependencies change and it hasn't been updated yet it will be removed when you upgrade. |
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| 17:17.34 | neglesaks | No, i'm running stable 7. |
| 17:17.49 | relaxed | My mistake. |
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| 17:18.16 | naptastic | neglesaks, can you be more specific about where those are? (I'm running MATE, so maybe they're in different places for each of us.) |
| 17:18.23 | neglesaks | Brigo, the output from synaptic is rather brief: "Could not apply changes, fix broken packages first": relaxed no problem |
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| 17:18.53 | neglesaks | Well, im trying to re-install Pidgin, since Pidgin mysteriously got removed or disabled somehow during my recent upgrade of packages. |
| 17:18.58 | neglesaks | Let me see if i can find the log |
| 17:19.21 | naptastic | neglesaks, strange... I can't install Pidgin on my Gentoo systems right now either. |
| 17:19.27 | Brigo | naptastic, preferences -> screensaver |
| 17:19.49 | Brigo | neglesaks, use apt-get, then. |
| 17:19.50 | naptastic | Brigo, Thanks. I turned on "Lock when screensaver is active" but haven't tested it yet. I have a bunch of SSH sessions open and can't lose them... |
| 17:19.58 | naptastic | (not to mention IRC ;) |
| 17:20.17 | neglesaks | yep, using apt-get. It throws errors as well. What is the command to rebuild the package database? |
| 17:20.25 | Brigo | naptastic, i use mate too, and i have no problems with screen lock :) |
| 17:20.39 | naptastic | Brigo, good to know :) I'll test here in a minute. |
| 17:20.49 | Brigo | neglesaks, i think the database is ok, can you paste that output? |
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| 17:23.21 | neglesaks | Brigo, here. http://paste.debian.net/129453/ Let me know if you need more. |
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| 17:23.58 | neglesaks | Im unsure what have held broken packages means or what to do about it. |
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| 17:25.26 | Brigo | neglesaks, are you using wheezy? have you actualice it recently? |
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| 17:26.25 | neglesaks | I update it every week, and just ran a software update an hour ago when i came home.... which was what removed pidgin from my system apparently... |
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| 17:26.37 | neglesaks | I'm running Debian 7 |
| 17:26.47 | relaxed | neglesaks: what does `lsb_release -r` return? |
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| 17:27.45 | Brigo | neglesaks, did you have sources from outside debian in /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 17:28.28 | neglesaks | No, purely debian sources. No ubuntu or other sources. |
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| 17:30.42 | Brigo | neglesaks, try to install libpurple0 and paste the output. |
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| 17:31.07 | neglesaks | thank you one moment |
| 17:32.15 | neglesaks | Brigo, http://paste.debian.net/129454/ |
| 17:32.16 | Brigo | neglesaks, the verison of libpurple0 in wheezy is 2.10.9-1~deb7u1, it should match the dependencies. |
| 17:32.37 | Brigo | intall it too. |
| 17:33.09 | neglesaks | ok, one moment |
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| 17:34.10 | neglesaks | could it be that the perl-base dependence is not new enough for libpurple0 to run? |
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| 17:35.03 | heurist` | neglesaks: you should have 5.14.2-21+deb7u2 since that is what is in wheezy, you have some other older version. upgrade perl-base too |
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| 17:35.28 | Brigo | neglesaks, it should not, can you paste the output of 'apt-cache policy pidgin libpurple0 perl-base'? |
| 17:36.10 | OUTsider | any plans to upgrade evolution ? :) |
| 17:36.21 | neglesaks | Brigo, http://paste.debian.net/129456/ |
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| 17:37.21 | Brigo | neglesaks, or you do not update your system or your sources.list have some problem. |
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| 17:37.36 | neglesaks | ill check the sources preferences... |
| 17:37.50 | heurist` | neglesaks: pastebin your sources.list |
| 17:37.53 | Brigo | so paste your /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 17:41.01 | neglesaks | Brigo, thank you for the sgestion. i have changed the software update server... |
| 17:41.09 | neglesaks | it looksliek pidgin just installed.... im checking... |
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| 17:41.49 | Brigo | neglesaks, np :) |
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| 17:42.30 | neglesaks | Brigo, it installed and is working fine. THank you for your help! Apparently it was a problem with the repository... |
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| 17:42.57 | Brigo | neglesaks, of course yes ;D |
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| 17:45.26 | treaki | hi |
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| 17:46.45 | treaki | i am still trying to install debian on an IBM Thinkpad R32, i now was able to dive around the floppydrive issue by blacklisting its module but now it cant find its main harddisk |
| 17:47.03 | treaki | i was still able to access the hdd using a grml live disc without problems |
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| 17:48.04 | treaki | its an normal ide hdd installed, i have looked up the pci id and found out that the module ata_piix is made for that purpose |
| 17:48.14 | treaki | i have userd modprobe to instert it and got this errorÖ |
| 17:48.24 | ag4ve_ | http://seclists.org/nanog/2014/Oct/911 |
| 17:48.31 | ag4ve_ | grrrr wrong window |
| 17:48.35 | treaki | [ 960.613966] ata_piix: Unknown symbol dmi_check_system_2 (err 0) |
| 17:48.35 | treaki | [ 960.614168] ata_piix: Unknown symbol dmi_first_match_2 (err 0) |
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| 17:53.17 | jhutchins_wk | treaki: Did you try a debian live image? |
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| 17:53.40 | jhutchins_wk | treaki: I have a thinkpad netbook, not sure what model, no problems running Debian on it. |
| 17:53.47 | treaki | no, i tryed grml live disk, that worked basicly but had also the fdd issue |
| 17:54.16 | treaki | yea, its an very old module still manufuctured by IBM not by lenovo |
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| 17:54.51 | treaki | i would like to know why i cant load ata_piix module |
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| 17:55.40 | rozie | treaki: try http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/ |
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| 17:56.37 | treaki | i have also tryed and found out that i should use ata_piix module |
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| 17:57.49 | rozie | treaki: try newer kernel. which one do you have installed? |
| 17:58.08 | rozie | I'd give a try newest from backports |
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| 17:58.40 | treaki | nothing installed jet, i am trying to install, the output is form the debian installer, |
| 17:59.04 | rozie | you don't need installer to install Debian |
| 17:59.09 | rozie | debootstrap is enough |
| 17:59.12 | treaki | the kernel of the used debian installer is 3.2.57-3 i686 |
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| 18:00.27 | treaki | rozie, i guess i will install debian using grmls debbootstrap if i cant fix that problem but i would like to know why debian installer refuses to load the ata kernel module kernel module |
| 18:00.46 | treaki | where can i find out what that error means and how to fix it |
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| 18:01.40 | Brigo | treaki, google? :) |
| 18:02.09 | javierrami | hello, I'm a student in the high school. For homework my teacher request to make a interview to a free software developer. Any one have 5 minutes for a interview? |
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| 18:04.07 | treaki | Brigo, couldn't find anything which solves my problem, just some bug report... |
| 18:04.20 | Trieste | I chrooted to a system, apt-get installed extlinux on it, extlinux-update'd, marked the partition as bootable, but if I try to boot from it, it's as if my computer just skipped over the drive instead |
| 18:04.50 | Brigo | extlinux? |
| 18:05.05 | Brigo | Trieste, did you install grub? |
| 18:05.25 | heurist` | Trieste: disable all other boot options so it stops when it can not boot your selected device, that way you see any error message. |
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| 18:05.51 | Trieste | Brigo: uh, isn't extlinux/syslinux an alternative to GRUB? |
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| 18:06.01 | Trieste | heurist`: then it just goes to BIOS settings instead |
| 18:06.02 | Trieste | well, UEFI |
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| 18:06.42 | rozie | javierrami: zabbix is free software and on #zabbix channel on freenode developers are often present |
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| 18:06.48 | Brigo | Trieste, it should be, i do not know it. |
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| 18:07.32 | heurist` | Trieste: did you try installing grub-efi instead of the default grub-pc? |
| 18:07.39 | treaki | Trieste, why do you want to use exlinux and not grub2? it is debians default bootloader and also suitable for uefi |
| 18:07.46 | acz32 | Trieste: you need a bootloader to detect the OS |
| 18:07.58 | acz32 | Trieste: use grub |
| 18:08.08 | javierrami | thanks rozie |
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| 18:08.41 | acz32 | Trieste: i'm not familiar with using just extlinux/syslinux |
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| 18:10.06 | Trieste | heurist`: I did not install grub |
| 18:10.30 | Trieste | treaki: I prefer its' config to GRUB's config |
| 18:10.54 | heurist` | Trieste: does it support efi though? |
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| 18:11.26 | Trieste | well, it ought to; in any case, it does pretty much the same thing on my laptop which doesn't have UEFI |
| 18:11.59 | treaki | to boot from efi your firmware has to be able to read the efi boot image inside the efi folder |
| 18:12.15 | treaki | so this has to be located on an vfat partition |
| 18:12.23 | treaki | so you sould try out syslinux |
| 18:12.29 | treaki | (as far as i know) |
| 18:12.46 | treaki | compare of apt-cache output |
| 18:12.49 | treaki | extlinux - collection of bootloaders (Linux ext2/ext3/ext4, btrfs, and xfs bootloader) |
| 18:12.58 | treaki | syslinux - collection of bootloaders (DOS FAT and NTFS bootloader) |
| 18:13.02 | treaki | syslinux-efi - collection of bootloaders (UEFI bootloader) |
| 18:13.07 | heurist` | Trieste: you will have to create both efi and non-efi boot mechanisms if you plan to boot on both efi and non-efi systems. this could get complicated. you might be better off using an liveImage |
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| 18:13.59 | Trieste | heurist`: I actually plan on booting on non-efi systems only, I just didn't realize until now that the desktop I've been testing this on has UEFI |
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| 18:17.04 | treaki | ok, thanks for your help, have a nice day, i have to go now :( |
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| 18:24.41 | Dr_Coke | hi |
| 18:25.05 | Dr_Coke | i just tried to install the nvidia driver for my gtx 980 in debian jessie |
| 18:25.23 | Dr_Coke | but i tried to install it from downloading from the website first |
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| 18:25.46 | towo` | and mow you doomed? |
| 18:25.47 | Dr_Coke | and it said to make sure cc was in the path i then tried to do apitude install |
| 18:26.17 | Dr_Coke | and this guy in the debian server |
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| 18:26.23 | towo` | btw, for this card, you need the driver from experimental |
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| 18:26.45 | Dr_Coke | gave me the command line to put it into the xorg |
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| 18:26.51 | Dr_Coke | and so i rebooted |
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| 18:27.01 | Dr_Coke | and the modprobe had a fatal error |
| 18:27.08 | Dr_Coke | and it wouldn't start cinnamon |
| 18:27.11 | towo` | [19:26:23] <towo`> btw, for this card, you need the driver from experimental |
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| 18:27.28 | Dr_Coke | oh really even in debian jessie? |
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| 18:27.49 | towo` | yes, even in jessie |
| 18:27.58 | Dr_Coke | so how do you get it in jessie? |
| 18:28.10 | towo` | support for those maxwell chipset was introduced in 343.22 |
| 18:28.44 | Dr_Coke | oh really |
| 18:29.06 | Dr_Coke | so how would i get it from the experimental repo |
| 18:29.19 | Dr_Coke | i mean how do i add that repo |
| 18:29.33 | Dr_Coke | or how can i put cc in my path |
| 18:29.48 | Dr_Coke | if i download it from nvidias site |
| 18:29.54 | Dr_Coke | and i try to install it |
| 18:30.13 | towo` | if you use the installer from nvidia, you lost |
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| 18:32.03 | towo` | Dr_Coke, echo deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ experimental main contrib non-free >> /etc/apt/sources.list && apt-get update && apt-get -t experimental install nvidia-driver && mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf |
| 18:32.15 | towo` | Dr_Coke, after that, reboot |
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| 18:33.04 | Dr_Coke | wow thanks |
| 18:33.08 | Dr_Coke | i'm gonna save that |
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| 18:33.20 | Dr_Coke | cause debian i wiped off just before |
| 18:33.33 | OUTsider | <3 oneliners :) |
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| 18:34.36 | Dr_Coke | lol |
| 18:34.46 | Dr_Coke | what do i do if it screws up towo` |
| 18:34.48 | Dr_Coke | for some reason |
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| 18:35.13 | towo` | come back here and give relevant infos about that? |
| 18:35.28 | Dr_Coke | ok |
| 18:35.30 | towo` | there are even cli-irc-clients |
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| 18:35.42 | Dr_Coke | i suppose i'll have to come in windows like now |
| 18:35.54 | Dr_Coke | or on the ipad |
| 18:36.30 | Dr_Coke | is cinnamon included on any of the jessie dvd downloads |
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| 18:36.36 | Dr_Coke | or do i have to use a netinstall |
| 18:37.00 | Dr_Coke | also is debian harder to use then linux mint? |
| 18:37.03 | towo` | Dr_Coke, you have to make sure, that kernel-headers for your running kernel are installed, before installing the driver |
| 18:37.13 | jhutchins_wk | !cinnamon |
| 18:37.14 | dpkg | Cinnamon is a fork of <GNOME Shell> initially developed by the Linux Mint distribution. Packaged in <testing>. http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/ |
| 18:37.40 | Dr_Coke | so cinnamon comes in the testing dvd jhutchins_wk ? |
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| 18:38.11 | Dr_Coke | how can i make sure they are towo` |
| 18:38.36 | towo` | apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
| 18:38.52 | Dr_Coke | is that the command to install them |
| 18:39.01 | jhutchins_wk | Dr_Coke: jessie = testing |
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| 18:42.29 | fovab | what's the difference between `uname -r` and $(uname -r) ? |
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| 18:45.41 | frostschutz | fovab, it's easier to have $() inside $() than `` inside ``. |
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| 18:50.51 | fovab | frostschutz: ist das der einzige Unterschied? |
| 18:51.22 | fovab | frostschutz: I mean, is this the sole difference? |
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| 18:53.39 | gtristan | hands fovab http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9405478/command-substitution-backticks-or-dollar-sign-paren-enclosed |
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| 18:54.47 | manusi | wait |
| 18:54.50 | manusi | this is a german channel? |
| 18:54.52 | manusi | lol |
| 18:55.02 | THE_GFR|WORK | hey everyone I have a small issue, someone or something is using my debian machine to do SSHF brute force attacks. Any idea what to look for to stop this? |
| 18:55.05 | gtristan | fovab, backticks are old-school, so you'll find them everywhere, dollar sign subshells are for the new school whiz kids ;-) |
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| 18:55.41 | fovab | gtristan: thanks, I read the top answer. Interesting. |
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| 18:57.26 | fovab | manusi: no, debian-de is German. I accidentally wrote to frostschutz in German because of his German name. But only English is allowed in this channel. |
| 18:57.42 | manusi | y i think so too :d |
| 18:57.57 | gtristan | else the language police will get you ! ;-) |
| 18:58.05 | manusi | :D |
| 18:58.15 | manusi | has anyone a good link for understanding tcp/ip stacks? |
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| 18:58.27 | manusi | i just cant find anything complex but easy to understand |
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| 18:59.09 | gtristan | manusi, my mantra after 15 years of hacking, is don't understand that, there is surely someone nearby who has wasted precious brain space understanding that, ask him :) |
| 18:59.11 | gtristan | really |
| 18:59.20 | fovab | THE_GFR|WORK: do you already know the package sshguard? Might help you with your problem. |
| 18:59.36 | manusi | what u dont understand that? |
| 18:59.41 | manusi | u makin fun of me :d |
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| 18:59.51 | gtristan | manusi, no, really |
| 19:00.14 | manusi | ok and i thot im da only one LOL |
| 19:00.20 | manusi | i really need to learn it sometime tho:D |
| 19:00.22 | gtristan | manusi, ask me to write kernel drivers, UI apps, hell even web, assembly code, no problem - just dont ask me to setup routing tables |
| 19:00.30 | manusi | :D |
| 19:00.41 | manusi | well I also need to know how linux kernel handles networking :d |
| 19:01.01 | gtristan | feels sorry for manusi |
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| 19:01.16 | manusi | cute :D |
| 19:01.23 | gtristan | I will go as far as the stevens manual goes with sockets and IPCs, no further |
| 19:02.18 | manusi | link for that? > |
| 19:02.29 | manusi | wants to be best friends with tristsan |
| 19:02.36 | gtristan | "advanced programming in the unix environment" |
| 19:02.47 | gtristan | the famous stevens manual |
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| 19:03.00 | gtristan | it's really good stuff |
| 19:03.09 | gtristan | (no link, but surely easy to find) |
| 19:03.14 | manusi | kay gna try |
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| 19:03.52 | manusi | http://www.amazon.co.uk/Programming-Environment-Addison-Wesley-Professional-Computing/dp/0321637739/ref=sr_1_1/276-5733795-8474661?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1414695821&sr=1-1 |
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| 19:04.43 | gtristan | that would be the one (mine did not have the rainbow on the cover) |
| 19:04.52 | gtristan | I think, anyway was a while ago |
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| 19:07.07 | THE_GFR|WORK | thanks everyone for the help |
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| 19:42.03 | jarlopez | Hey peeps. Slight pickle here and don't know what to do next. I'm at capacity on my root / partition, to the point where some applications can't even create tmp files. What do I do? Try to resize the partition? |
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| 19:47.57 | Avic | i cant copy /paste using the rdp... with the windows remote desktop |
| 19:48.09 | Avic | hello. i installed xrdp, how should i delete it? |
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| 19:48.28 | Avic | i'm new in linux... |
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| 19:50.15 | Avic | sudo apt-get purge xrdp ? |
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| 19:50.24 | heurist` | Avic: how did you install it? |
| 19:50.37 | spindley | man apt-get |
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| 19:50.45 | Avic | sudo apt-get install xrdp |
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| 19:51.07 | heurist` | Avic: yes, if you used apt-get install xrdp then you use apt-get purge xrdp to remove it |
| 19:51.24 | Avic | ok, thanks :-) |
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| 19:56.22 | generatoo | any recommendations for a firewall on a desktop debian pc? |
| 19:56.52 | towo` | brain |
| 19:57.11 | Brigo | what desktop environment are you using? |
| 19:57.24 | trem0r | iptables |
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| 19:57.31 | trem0r | regardless |
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| 19:58.33 | generatoo | i3 |
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| 20:13.13 | pacho | hi everybody |
| 20:13.27 | rwp | generatoo, I like shorewall very much for firewall rules. The config is files which can be copied and version controlled. |
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| 20:15.01 | pacho | I have a task of a master I'm doing, tell me about their experiences with free software |
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| 20:18.07 | generatoo | rwp: yeah i will check it |
| 20:18.11 | generatoo | ty |
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| 20:19.45 | frangor | hi |
| 20:19.45 | rwp | generatoo, Years ago I wrote a short howto on shorewall. It is a little dated now but basically still applies. http://www.proulx.com/~bob/doc/firewall.txt |
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| 20:23.57 | grzeslaw | Hi.. I would like to take your advice, what security documentation about securing debian will you recommend? I read one on debian wiki, but want to read more.. |
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| 20:25.23 | nkuttler | !tell grzeslaw about hardening |
| 20:25.48 | GLiX | grzeslaw, I can remember something like... |
| 20:25.51 | GLiX | let me a minute |
| 20:26.07 | GLiX | Debian Administrators Handbook? |
| 20:26.17 | GLiX | plz sbdy confirm |
| 20:26.58 | grzeslaw | GLiX: there were lots of stuff like debian administrator handbook. but I think, that is the same what is on the wiki |
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| 20:28.56 | GLiX | could sound dumb maybe but deeply knowing the system, and interested in looking for security aspects of it, you'll find the path. |
| 20:29.06 | GLiX | To truly secure your system |
| 20:29.09 | GLiX | as any system |
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| 20:30.26 | GLiX | you know... All the big 'giants' of the internet are running our oses so... Why they 'usually' came out with strong-reliable-safe (not safe-to user, but safe-to-system) service. |
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| 20:31.39 | holgersson | Hello everyone! I set' up a debian inside a systemd-nspawn at gentoo as a printing container. Now I have some trouble: Cups doesn't recognise the USB-printer, although it's connected and visible in /dev/bus/usb. Is that a "debian problem" (missing packages?) or a CUPS one? |
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| 20:32.35 | Brigo | holgersson, so you have 2 containers one with debian and other with gentoo? |
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| 20:32.57 | eptalon | heyas |
| 20:33.08 | holgersson | Brigo: Sorry, no. I have my host with Gentoo/systemd and one with Debian7. |
| 20:33.31 | Brigo | and you are trying to print from the container |
| 20:33.39 | holgersson | Brigo: Aye. |
| 20:33.50 | generatoo | rwp: nice manual, what was your experience with iptables if you used it before? |
| 20:33.58 | eptalon | just an idea: a debian system running on as little as 512M RAM, and perhaps 8G "disk" (for a firewall)? |
| 20:33.58 | holgersson | Brigo: lsusb is exactly the same as from the gentoo host. |
| 20:34.26 | eptalon | would that be feasible? |
| 20:34.34 | Brigo | holgersson, has debian container permission to access /dev/bus/usb ? |
| 20:34.49 | Brigo | eptalon, yes. |
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| 20:35.34 | eptalon | All that would be running is ssh, and perhaps some web-interface to configure stuff? |
| 20:35.37 | holgersson | Brigo: Hm, lsusb shows everything correct and ls -l /dev/bus/usb shows "drwxr-xr-x 2 root root" for everything. |
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| 20:35.54 | eptalon | and of course some firewall |
| 20:36.33 | Brigo | holgersson, and lsusb shows the printer? |
| 20:36.39 | holgersson | Brigo: Yes. |
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| 20:36.51 | Brigo | and you can configure it but not to print. |
| 20:36.55 | holgersson | No |
| 20:37.10 | holgersson | I can't add/see it through the CUPS Webinterface. |
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| 20:37.54 | Brigo | did you check the logs? |
| 20:37.57 | Wanaoishi | Hi Guys, |
| 20:38.06 | Wanaoishi | need some help on an install of mysql-server |
| 20:38.11 | Wanaoishi | stupid stuff |
| 20:38.18 | manusi | can someone send me his sshd config |
| 20:38.20 | manusi | need a secure one |
| 20:38.37 | Wanaoishi | but when I try to install he try to install mysql-server and mysql-server-5.1 at the same time |
| 20:38.38 | Wanaoishi | http://pastebin.com/P1vC3rRP |
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| 20:38.40 | Wanaoishi | any idea? |
| 20:38.43 | Wanaoishi | please |
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| 20:39.59 | holgersson | Brigo: Yes, and I can't find something helpful. ( The error log is empty.) |
| 20:40.13 | Brigo | holgersson, what debian wheezy? |
| 20:40.22 | Brigo | holgersson, what debian, wheezy? |
| 20:41.08 | benhuard | Wanaoishi, this is fine. Mysql-server only tells the system that the current version to install is 5.1 |
| 20:41.40 | holgersson | Brigo: Yes, wheezy/version 7. |
| 20:41.44 | Wanaoishi | ok benhuard did you saw the errors after? |
| 20:42.19 | benhuard | oups no sorry |
| 20:42.29 | Brigo | holgersson, if the error is not about permissions then i have not a clue. If the problems are permissions, don ask me but systemd :) |
| 20:42.54 | Wanaoishi | benhuard: that's my really problem â¦. :$ |
| 20:43.18 | holgersson | Brigo: That I can't see permission problems doens't need to mean there aren't any - I'll ask there, thanks for your time :) |
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| 20:43.47 | Brigo | holgersson, np :) |
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| 20:44.07 | benhuard | Wanaoishi, dpkg claims a newer version is already installed |
| 20:44.27 | benhuard | and aborts before downgrading to 5.1 |
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| 20:47.27 | Wanaoishi | problem I apt-get remove mysql-server and mysql-client |
| 20:47.33 | Wanaoishi | so none is intalledâ¦. |
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| 20:48.11 | benhuard | did you use purge ? |
| 20:48.28 | Wanaoishi | "Package mysql-client is not installed, so not removed" |
| 20:49.45 | Wanaoishi | benhuard: I have tried to purge and he said that it's not installed. |
| 20:50.05 | Wanaoishi | But when I call mysql in the console I have a ERROR 2002 (HY000): Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2) |
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| 20:51.06 | benhuard | look at lines 25 and 26 in what you pasted |
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| 20:51.56 | Wanaoishi | yes but why is he downgrading mysql? |
| 20:53.21 | Wanaoishi | I would rather have the last mysql version |
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| 21:00.16 | benhuard | mysql-5.1 is not included in Wheezy, I wonder why apt wants to install this one. Are you still on Wheezy ? |
| 21:00.28 | benhuard | sorry, **on Squeeze** |
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| 21:13.43 | jhutchins_wk | ,v mysql-server |
| 21:13.44 | judd | Package: mysql-server on i386 -- squeeze-security: 5.1.73-1; squeeze: 5.1.73-1; squeeze-security-lts: 5.1.73-1+deb6u1; wheezy: 5.5.38-0+wheezy1; wheezy-security: 5.5.38-0+wheezy1; jessie: 5.5.39-1; sid: 5.5.39-1; wheezy-security: 5.5.40-0+wheezy1 |
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| 21:14.52 | jhutchins_wk | benhuard: So I take it you've taken the obvious steps of purging all mysql components from your system and trying a fresh install, you've reviewed your sources.list, etc? |
| 21:15.12 | jhutchins_wk | Wanaoishi: So I take it you've taken the obvious steps of purging all mysql components from your system and trying a fresh install, you've reviewed your sources.list, etc? |
| 21:15.15 | jhutchins_wk | benhuard: Sorry. |
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| 21:18.15 | Wanaoishi | jhutchins_wk: yes |
| 21:18.53 | Wanaoishi | source liste is clean |
| 21:19.06 | Wanaoishi | only the line from the defaut debian squeeze |
| 21:19.29 | Wanaoishi | I have succeed in installing it |
| 21:20.00 | Wanaoishi | no my problem is when I copy back my /var/lib/mysql from my previous server, I can't launch it again⦠don't know why. |
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| 21:28.15 | Wanaoishi | ok found where i came from |
| 21:28.18 | Wanaoishi | thanks for all |
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| 21:37.40 | lultron | self-validating : http://pastebin.com/QnHSbAYj |
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| 21:44.41 | pflanze | Hi. I'm pondering installing Debian or similar onto a USB drive to be booted from on a Desktop by a computer ~newbie who often has problems with Windows. |
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| 21:45.34 | pflanze | I know Debian better than Ubuntu. But I know I won't have the time to put together everything needed for that purpose (desktop, network etc., auto-updates,..) |
| 21:46.12 | Stary2001 | desktop & networking are ez |
| 21:46.53 | pflanze | I know I'm always spending quite some time installing Debian on my machines... |
| 21:47.02 | MuTeD | Hi, I did a clean install of Debian sid yesterday (with XFCE) . Today I tried installing android studio. I put JAVA_HOME in /etc/environment like suggested in forum posts. However it seems like this is not being read when I login. when I type ". /etc/environment" or "source /etc/environment" I can echo JAVA_HOME correctly. However as soon as I reboot JAVA_HOME is lost. Thanks! Any help is greatly apprciated =) |
| 21:47.36 | pflanze | (Like, running xfce now, but many small things don't work properly, no problem for me but not good for a newbie.) |
| 21:47.44 | Stary2001 | ah i see |
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| 21:48.37 | pflanze | I'd love something like Ubuntu but (1) with something closer and more practical to Windows than Unity, (2) I'd prefer the Basis to be Debian (easier support). |
| 21:48.40 | Brigo | MuTeD, put JAVA_HOME in .bashrc |
| 21:48.44 | n-iCe | Hello, |
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| 21:50.18 | pflanze | MuTeD, ~/.bash_profile should work, too (only read once on startup). |
| 21:50.24 | subopt | I'm looking for a pdf reader that has something like Acroread's Ctl-Shift-F (Advanced Search) so i can get all the hits in the doc at once. Anyone know of one? |
| 21:50.38 | pflanze | (MuTeD more correct: on login, not startup) |
| 21:51.54 | MuTeD | Ok, ill try that! It's just that online it was always suggested to put it in etc/environment |
| 21:52.26 | pflanze | MuTeD, I've never used that file, seems like a new invention perhaps. |
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| 21:53.07 | jhutchins_wk | MuTeD: I think that might only work when you create a new user. |
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| 21:57.33 | MuTeD_ | well my java_home is being recognized now. Thanks for the help! |
| 21:57.54 | pflanze | MuTeD, there's /etc/profile for all Bash users globally. Perhaps Bash isn't reading /etc/environment |
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| 21:58.27 | pflanze | (since reading /etc/profile I can't see it accessing /etc/environment) |
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| 22:00.02 | pflanze | MuTeD_, https://wiki.debian.org/Locale says that *older* Debian versions used /etc/environment. |
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| 22:00.36 | MuTeD_ | well from what i read /etc/environment is ment for defining variables but it couldn't execute scripts (Wheras /etc/profile can run scripts) |
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| 22:01.00 | pflanze | MuTeD_, yes, I've seen it described as such. I don't know why Debian doesn't support it anymore? |
| 22:01.09 | MuTeD_ | ah i see! yup it seems outdated |
| 22:01.11 | pflanze | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:04.31 | happycrappy | hi all, I just had a quick questionâ¦how does debian installer decide on which packages need to be installed? |
| 22:04.44 | happycrappy | ie. what comprises the base debian system? |
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| 22:06.04 | happycrappy | I thought it mightâve been the top level meta packages or priorities, but examining my system that doesnât appear to be true |
| 22:06.09 | heurist` | happycrappy: you choose which "tasks" you want it tasksel does the rest. https://wiki.debian.org/tasksel |
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| 22:07.22 | happycrappy | heurist`: Iâm just trying to understand how debian base is composed ⦠i understand tasksel can install pakages using the task meta packages, im just wondering where the rest of it comes from |
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| 22:07.58 | Brigo | happycrappy, the kernel of the system is created be debootstrap (uncompresed and copy to the system) |
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| 22:09.14 | happycrappy | Brigo: Iâm not quite what you meanâ¦are you saying that the base is hand picked set of packages that have to downloaded as a tarball? |
| 22:09.55 | Brigo | happycrappy, the packages are in the installer, they are not dowloaded. |
| 22:11.06 | happycrappy | Brigo: not for netinstall, correct? Iâm basically just trying to find the list of packages that represent the wheezyâs base footprint |
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| 22:11.51 | Brigo | happycrappy, search for Priority: required |
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| 22:12.22 | pflanze | What about "Essential: yes"? |
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| 22:13.43 | happycrappy | Brigo: so that was my intuition as well: that the list gathered by priority. But on a fresh system, running deborphan, I get stuff from important, standard as well (but not every pkg in that priority) |
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| 22:14.23 | pflanze | Maybe this has the answer? (Haven't read it closely yet) http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/90523/what-packages-are-installed-by-default-in-debian-is-there-a-term-for-that-set |
| 22:14.31 | bennett1 | Question: I lost good chunks of the /var/ partition of a server of mine, due to hard disk failure. This server has been running Squeeze for a few years. Fortunately, I have a backup of this partition from one year ago; if I simply replace the corrupted /var/ data with the old one, will I get in trouble? |
| 22:14.33 | pflanze | happycrappy ^ |
| 22:14.35 | Brigo | happycrappy, i do not know the package policy search in the wiki. |
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| 22:15.22 | Brigo | benedikt, if you are running msyql, for example, yes. |
| 22:15.34 | happycrappy | pflanze: thats exactly what I was looking for! thank you! |
| 22:15.36 | bennett1 | Brigo: I am. Why would that be a problem? |
| 22:15.54 | pflanze | np :) |
| 22:16.06 | Brigo | because you will be a wrong mysql database. |
| 22:16.55 | bennett1 | Other than that, will there be any other problems? And what can I do about the mysql databases? I think not all of the mysql data was lost. |
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| 22:23.00 | abailarri | Hello. Anyone know where stores bind9 the logs? |
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| 22:27.11 | obounaim | hello, How to manage updates for multiple Debian server? |
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| 22:33.35 | torpet | Hi, what would be the best way to get pgadmin3 on jessie? |
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| 22:33.46 | torpet | Should I just try the wheezy package? |
| 22:34.11 | heurist` | torpet: questions about jessie are better addressed to #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
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| 22:34.51 | torpet | heurist`: OK, will ask there |
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| 22:35.53 | cryzed | So I just did apt-get install build-essential, compiled something and wanted to remove the package again including all dependencies installed by it. But it left most of the dependencies on my system except g++ and libstdc++ after autoclean. Shouldn't it have removed packages like libalgorithm-diff-perl, libtimedate-perl etc. too? |
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| 22:36.29 | Brigo | cryzed, did you use aptitude? |
| 22:36.37 | cryzed | I did use apt-get on wheeze |
| 22:36.47 | heurist` | cryzed: try aptitude why libalgorithm-diff-per to see why it thinks they should still be on your system |
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| 22:36.54 | cryzed | thank you, I'll do that |
| 22:37.07 | cryzed | oh I need to install aptitude first apparently |
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| 22:39.01 | cryzed | heurist`, http://dpaste.com/0QAAFX2 |
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| 22:41.06 | heurist` | cryzed: looks pretty clear. you could remove libalgorithm-merge-perl since it is only recommended by dpkg-dev, or remove dpkg-dev since it is only suggested. |
| 22:41.23 | cryzed | heurist`, so the packages stayed because some other package recommended them |
| 22:41.31 | cryzed | and they weren't autoremoved |
| 22:41.33 | cryzed | because of that? |
| 22:41.37 | heurist` | cryzed: yes. |
| 22:41.38 | cryzed | I am just trying to understand the process |
| 22:41.45 | cryzed | heurist`, thank you -- I'll let them stay in that case |
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| 22:43.01 | Scramblejams | What's the easiest way, given a dpkg file with arbitrary dependencies, to install those dependencies? |
| 22:43.20 | Wulf | Scramblejams: apt-get -f install |
| 22:44.04 | Scramblejams | Wulf: preceded by a dpkg -i foo.deb, I presume? |
| 22:44.08 | Wulf | Scramblejams: yes |
| 22:44.11 | Scramblejams | Wulf: Thanks! |
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| 22:44.48 | Wulf | Scramblejams: welcome |
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| 22:46.58 | lf94 | Is there no ipx package for testing/jessie? |
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| 22:47.12 | Wulf | ipx? that still in use?! |
| 22:47.29 | lf94 | For users that come in here and ask, it's mainly for gaming |
| 22:47.36 | lf94 | A lot of old games use IPX for LAN |
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| 22:48.48 | lf94 | Anyways, sid has it but only for m68k and wheezy has it for many architectures |
| 22:48.57 | lf94 | What should I do? |
| 22:49.12 | heurist` | lf94: questions about jessie are better addressed to #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
| 22:49.19 | lf94 | ok :) |
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| 22:53.05 | Uber-Ich | is it possible to install Plasma 5 on Debian at this moment? |
| 22:53.10 | Uber-Ich | or do I need to install KDE 4 and then work from there? |
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| 22:54.33 | nkuttler | ,v kde-plasma-desktop |
| 22:54.34 | judd | Package: kde-plasma-desktop on i386 -- squeeze: 5:66; wheezy: 5:77+deb7u1; sid: 5:84; jessie: 5:84 |
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| 22:54.48 | nkuttler | heh. no idea what those numbers mean.. |
| 22:55.03 | Uber-Ich | thanks! |
| 22:55.28 | Uber-Ich | it means something... I'm sure ;) |
| 22:55.51 | Uber-Ich | I'll just try install kde-plasma-desktop and go from there. |
| 22:55.55 | nkuttler | Uber-Ich: i doubt that's kde5 though, that was just released, wasn't it? |
| 22:56.03 | somiaj | well the 5: is an epoch, so it is versions 66, 77, and 84 -- so at least they seem to line up. (: |
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| 22:56.06 | Uber-Ich | nkuttler: correct |
| 22:56.28 | somiaj | no the 5: is just an epoch for debian versioning to help apt know what packge is the newest |
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| 22:58.34 | generatoo | does debian use the selinux function in the kernel? |
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| 22:59.09 | generatoo | ive heard some "bad" stuff about this function that it is a backdoor from the NSA |
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| 22:59.33 | heurist` | generatoo: debian does not have selinux enabled by default. |
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| 23:00.26 | dancus | but is strange that selinux have a backdoor from the NSA |
| 23:00.51 | Uber-Ich | generatoo: where did you hear that there exists such a backdoor? |
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| 23:01.15 | generatoo | ive read too many articles about this |
| 23:01.30 | heurist` | calls "fudd" |
| 23:01.38 | Simotek-Work- | have you looked at the code yourself? |
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| 23:02.57 | generatoo | no i didnt, but they did the same thing on win95, and: Why should the NSA that stands for checking the privacy of the users because they "could be a terrorist for the folk" and who want to scan all data from everyone, why should they helping linux to become 'safer' ? that would be another question |
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| 23:03.38 | Simotek-Work- | in win95 you didn't have access to the source code, where as the debian kernel you do |
| 23:03.44 | Uber-Ich | ^this |
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| 23:04.05 | generatoo | yeah, did you look at the code? ^^ |
| 23:05.25 | generatoo | 3 or 4 lines of code would be enough i think |
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| 23:05.49 | generatoo | here is an interesting video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wwRYyWn7BEo |
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| 23:06.34 | katayana | does anyone have issues with vlc on debian not playing to internet streams at all? |
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| 23:08.02 | generatoo | but, its just a thaught. im not really sure about it. I hope that there are no backdoors in selinux |
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| 23:21.10 | generatoo | hah ive found an article, the fbi wanted to setup a backdoor in ipsec at openbsd..:D |
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| 23:27.53 | AlexLikerock | hi |
| 23:27.55 | AlexLikerock | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:27.59 | Wulf | helps AlexLikerock |
| 23:28.02 | AlexLikerock | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:28.20 | AlexLikerock | its pluget |
| 23:28.25 | AlexLikerock | , but not detect |
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| 23:28.59 | FreeStyle | How can I change the icon size of notification area in gnome 3.4? I'm in a fallback session. |
| 23:29.00 | AlexLikerock | xrandr |
| 23:29.01 | AlexLikerock | HDMI-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) |
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| 23:29.27 | mtn | FreeStyle: don't think you can in gnome3 |
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| 23:33.33 | AlexLikerock | help |
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| 23:33.55 | AlexLikerock | i need help to add my HDMI, my debian not detect |
| 23:34.05 | AlexLikerock | HDMI-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) |
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| 23:36.24 | dancus | xrandr --output HDMI-1 ..mode 1280x1924 --same-as LVDS1 |
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| 23:37.14 | AlexLikerock | dancus, http://paste.debian.net/129516/ |
| 23:37.16 | archetech | on deb 6 I changed nic card to e100 - says can't find/load microcode? |
| 23:38.05 | jhutchins_wk | archetech: Right. |
| 23:38.12 | jhutchins_wk | archetech: Shouldn't actually need it. |
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| 23:38.23 | archetech | but lspci shows the module loaded |
| 23:38.24 | jhutchins_wk | archetech: e100 or e1000 |
| 23:38.29 | archetech | e100 |
| 23:38.48 | archetech | and udev rules-network has a line for it |
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| 23:38.53 | jhutchins_wk | archetech: Pretty sure that'll work without the firmware. |
| 23:39.19 | jhutchins_wk | archetech: But, ya know, see if it does. |
| 23:39.52 | jhutchins_wk | archetech: If it's the one I think it is it's only needed for some unusual cases in datacenter applications. |
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| 23:40.16 | FreeStyle | d |
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| 23:40.39 | dimitry7 | hi guys. today one of my linux servers just got frozen, I could not do ssh, or enter the http site, even on the terminal it was impossible to log in... i had to reboot it... then I revised logs / processes etc and nothing found. Now it is opperating normally but I would like to know if there is a tool with wich I can monitor which of my processes gets hanged in memory or zombie etc?? |
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| 23:41.41 | dimitry7 | Mainly for it to keep a log of what processes where consuming what amount of memory in a certain time. |
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| 23:42.32 | dancus | sory --mode not ..mode |
| 23:42.35 | jhutchins_wk | archetech: Ah, the microcode for the e100 reduced jitter and CPU load, it's included in firmware-linux-nonfree (in the non-free repo). |
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| 23:42.40 | AlexLikerock | ok dancus |
| 23:42.43 | heurist` | dimitry7: atop might give you enough to get started |
| 23:42.57 | dimitry7 | heurist`, great! thanks a lot! |
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| 23:43.16 | kerneloopz | dimitry7: your server could have dropped off the network |
| 23:43.35 | AlexLikerock | dancus, xrandr: cannot find mode 1280x1924 |
| 23:43.53 | jhutchins_wk | dimitry7: There's a utility called hangcheck-timer that can watch for problems like that, and you should probably have lm_sensors and smartmontools running (assuming it's real hardware). |
| 23:43.55 | dimitry7 | kerneloopz, yes it did. |
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| 23:44.25 | dimitry7 | jhutchins_wk, yes, I monitor temperature with Dell Open Manage |
| 23:44.28 | kerneloopz | it happens |
| 23:44.32 | dimitry7 | jhutchins_wk, thanks for the tool :D |
| 23:44.34 | jhutchins_wk | dimitry7: hangcheck is usually used in Oracle clustering, it's in Red Hat but I don't know if it's packaged for Debian. |
| 23:44.39 | dimitry7 | kerneloopz, I hope si... |
| 23:44.48 | dimitry7 | jhutchins_wk, ok let me check... |
| 23:44.58 | dancus | AlexLikerock: try 1280x1024 |
| 23:45.19 | dimitry7 | ups... there is not hangcheck for debian |
| 23:45.24 | AlexLikerock | dancus, xrandr: cannot find mode 1280x1024 |
| 23:45.25 | AlexLikerock | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:45.53 | heurist` | dimitry7: try watchdog |
| 23:46.02 | dimitry7 | heurist`, okay :) |
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| 23:47.41 | archetech | dmesg log says failed to load firmware "e100/d101m_ucode.bin -2 |
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| 23:48.06 | archetech | ifconfig shows eth1 and lo |
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| 23:49.00 | jhutchins_wk | archetech: You can use the e100 without it, but it's in firmware-linux-nonfree (from the non-free repo). |
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| 23:50.25 | archetech | catch22 no inet to download it ;) |
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| 23:51.14 | AlexLikerock | i will back |
| 23:52.22 | ScottE | archetech: If you have another system where you can get the firmware file you should be able to just drop it into /lib/firmware/e100 to get going (then install the package properly) |
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| 23:53.54 | kerneloopz | on a 3 Gbits HDD, why is RAID 1 building at 145 MB/sec? Shouldn't it be faster? |
| 23:54.07 | kerneloopz | *two 3 Gbits HDDs |
| 23:54.24 | heurist` | dpkg: tell kerneloopz -about crosspost |
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| 23:54.42 | kerneloopz | sorry |
| 23:55.03 | kerneloopz | is that not allowed? I wasn't aware |
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| 23:55.31 | kerneloopz | ah I see, thanks |
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| 23:56.41 | kerneloopz | Won't happen again. I had also posted to ##linux, but no one has answered there |
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