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| 11:01.21 | nikio_ | Iridos, i dont think the installer managed to connect to the net, what command should I make to make sure after i manually gain wifi connection, it will install the basic package? |
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| 11:01.52 | Iridos | paul_grozav, also... the package description of fancontrol says: This package contains a daemon that calculates fan speeds from temperatures and sets the corresponding PWM outputs to the computed values. |
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| 11:02.07 | nikio_ | i think my debian kernel is 3.2.4 |
| 11:02.10 | nikio_ | its ok right?? |
| 11:02.41 | Iridos | nikio_, you may need (it's actually quite likely) firmware for your wifi card... starting with wheezy, debian removed firmware from the installer images |
| 11:02.44 | Iridos | dpkg, firmware |
| 11:02.44 | dpkg | Firmware is software to operate electronic devices, usually contained in EPROM or flash memory. Some Linux kernel drivers require firmware to be provided from userspace, notably for <WiFi> devices. Most firmware files are not part of a Debian release as they do not conform to the <DFSG>; some are available via <contrib> and <non-free> packages, ask me about <search>. See also <installer firmware>. http://wiki.debian.org/Firmware |
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| 11:04.01 | nikio_ | Iridos, I cant believe it.. its not accepting my login |
| 11:04.12 | nikio_ | what now? |
| 11:04.16 | nikio_ | reinstall? |
| 11:04.18 | nikio_ | x ( |
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| 11:06.17 | Snafu | Hi, I would like to set the network/interfaces file with a config-deb. When installing the deb on a running system, it works. But if I install the package with a preseed file, the interfaces file is overwritten. Any ideas? |
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| 11:10.06 | nikio_ | im root now |
| 11:10.12 | nikio_ | but how do i make sure it uses gnmoe |
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| 11:11.06 | paul_grozav | Iridos: OK, thank you, I'll try to use fancontrol to change the policy. I just hope that changing the fan speed will not lead to overheating the CPU and destroying my laptop ... |
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| 11:13.17 | nikio_ | how do i go into a gui |
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| 11:13.19 | nikio_ | ? |
| 11:13.31 | g00se | paul_grozav: You _did_ check top did you not? |
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| 11:13.58 | Ox17 | my laptop hangs on battery power when wifi is enabled, any ideas how to fix that? |
| 11:14.08 | paul_grozav | g00se: Yes I did and I don't see anything using too much CPU, but the fan keeps spinning |
| 11:14.33 | g00se | Might be worth checking out dmesg to see if there any acpi errors |
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| 11:15.11 | paul_grozav | g00se: me ? :) |
| 11:15.16 | g00se | Yes |
| 11:15.25 | paul_grozav | g00se: OK, let me check that now |
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| 11:15.46 | DevAntoine | hi |
| 11:15.52 | g00se | Of course what to do if there _are_ any is another question ;) |
| 11:16.07 | kuL | 1/close |
| 11:16.09 | DevAntoine | can someone tells me when the first version of php 5.4 package was release on stable? |
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| 11:16.18 | DevAntoine | I'm not sure about what I found in the package's history |
| 11:16.26 | nikio_ | g00se im stuck in tty1 |
| 11:16.39 | nikio_ | where do i go lol |
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| 11:16.52 | johskar | paul_grozav: https://wiki.debian.org/HowTo/CpuFrequencyScaling for more on cpu frequency scaling. |
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| 11:17.03 | DevAntoine | it's the file I'm searching in: http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//main/p/php5/php5_5.4.4-14+deb7u14_changelog |
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| 11:18.15 | DevAntoine | but that looks weird because it states the first php 5.4 stable is for php5.4.4-14+deb7u1 |
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| 11:21.28 | g00se | nikio_: Precisely what have you got on that card? |
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| 11:21.52 | nikio_ | g00se the card is out, debian is installed.. the latest version |
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| 11:22.20 | g00se | 'Latest' ? |
| 11:22.28 | nikio_ | g00se, https://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ |
| 11:22.33 | nikio_ | the bittorrent |
| 11:22.50 | DevAntoine | not one can guide me aboyut the PHP5 package's history? |
| 11:22.59 | g00se | Have you installed testing, stable or unstable? |
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| 11:23.24 | nikio_ | stable 7.7 |
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| 11:23.40 | nikio_ | g00se, how do i start gnome, im on tty1 |
| 11:23.55 | g00se | With no gui? |
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| 11:24.32 | g00se | You have no gui currently? |
| 11:25.17 | nikio_ | g00se, i see tty1 so no |
| 11:25.19 | nikio_ | no GUI |
| 11:25.24 | nikio_ | tty1 is the terminall |
| 11:25.32 | Ox17 | ok thanks, fixed it already. On some notebooks the wifi power management causes some problems. Disabling it helps |
| 11:25.51 | gnoid | nikio_: did you installed some wm or de? |
| 11:26.03 | nikio_ | gnoid, whats that? |
| 11:26.17 | gnoid | you have gnome installed? |
| 11:26.40 | g00se | Do you even have X installed? |
| 11:27.03 | nikio_ | whats X, simply ran the install |
| 11:27.29 | nikio_ | im root now |
| 11:27.33 | nikio_ | how do i open gnome |
| 11:27.52 | gnoid | you need to install it, firstly |
| 11:27.58 | g00se | sudo dpkg --get-selections | grep xserver-common |
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| 11:28.34 | nikio_ | g00se thats not Gnome is it? |
| 11:28.43 | nikio_ | gnoid I think its installed but I dont know how to start it |
| 11:28.58 | g00se | That's what any windowing env will need |
| 11:29.10 | gnoid | apt-get install gdm3; service gdm3 start |
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| 11:29.53 | nikio_ | unable to locate package gdm3 |
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| 11:30.34 | nikio_ | g00se, i also ran your commandand pressed enter |
| 11:30.38 | nikio_ | nothing happens |
| 11:30.40 | gnoid | do you have filled sources.list? |
| 11:30.40 | nikio_ | I just see a new line |
| 11:30.52 | g00se | Sounds like you have no X |
| 11:30.55 | gnoid | !dpkg |
| 11:30.55 | dpkg | well, dpkg is the program used by Debian to install and remove packages, "man dpkg". Also ask me about <reference>. The main info bot in #debian is also called dpkg; ask me about <dpkgbot>. |
| 11:31.10 | gnoid | !sources.list |
| 11:31.10 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 7 "Wheezy" has three lines: "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main" "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <wheezy/updates> <wheezy-updates> <mirrors> <apt-spy> and "man sources.list". |
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| 11:32.44 | g00se | What are the consequences of the user powering down the machine when it's in the middle of update/upgrade? Presumably there are safeguards against 'trouble' ..? |
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| 11:35.48 | Ox17 | nikio_: apt-get install xorg gnome |
| 11:36.13 | Iridos | DevAntoine, the original package in wheezy will have come in via something like unstable->testing->frozen testing->stable, so it has never been commited to stable |
| 11:36.57 | DevAntoine | Iridos: how can I manage to know when php 5.3 was dropped in favor of 5.4 in stable? |
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| 11:39.05 | jamesc | In debian it is necessary to have up AND down lines for static routes. As this duplicates the config can I use just up only? |
| 11:39.05 | Ox17 | how can i encrypt a service running on a specific port? |
| 11:39.21 | nikio_ | gnoid i ficed my sources.list |
| 11:39.23 | nikio_ | with cat |
| 11:39.26 | gnoid | stunnel can do it |
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| 11:39.32 | nikio_ | im back in root tty1 now |
| 11:39.34 | nikio_ | what next? |
| 11:39.45 | Ox17 | nikio_: what is your goal? |
| 11:40.03 | nikio_ | Ox17, id like X and gnome to be installed so i can use Debian |
| 11:40.22 | Ox17 | nikio_: apt-get install xorg gnome |
| 11:40.28 | nikio_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:41.04 | nikio_ | Ox17, unable to locate package |
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| 11:42.03 | Ox17 | nikio_: apt-get update |
| 11:42.06 | gnoid | g00se: depends on what packges has beed installed. In most cases stable will survive |
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| 11:42.44 | Ox17 | nikio_: post your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 11:42.46 | gnoid | nikio_: show sources.list |
| 11:42.49 | nikio_ | Ox17, failed |
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| 11:43.20 | nikio_ | gnoid, Ox17 its the exact same as the link you gave me wih contrib non-free appended to it |
| 11:43.21 | johskar | nikio_: do you have a working network connection on that machine yet? (lan / wifi) |
| 11:43.39 | nikio_ | i dont think so, it says it can not resolve to http.debian.net |
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| 11:43.59 | Ox17 | nikio_: ping google.de , getting a reply? |
| 11:44.12 | gnoid | ping 8.8.8.8 ? |
| 11:44.12 | nikio_ | unknown host |
| 11:44.18 | Ox17 | ah ok |
| 11:44.34 | nikio_ | network is unreachable |
| 11:44.51 | johskar | ^^ need network before anything else can be installed. |
| 11:44.55 | Ox17 | nikio_: you got a wifi or ethernet connection= |
| 11:45.00 | Ox17 | ? |
| 11:45.02 | nikio_ | yes a wifi |
| 11:45.11 | nikio_ | i know which firmware it needs |
| 11:45.25 | Ox17 | nikio_: and, you installed this firmware already? |
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| 11:46.57 | g00se | Do yourself a favour - use wired until you've solved these fundamentals |
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| 11:47.30 | nikio_ | Ox17, NO it needs http://www.intel.com/support/wireless/wlan/sb/CS-034398.htm |
| 11:47.33 | nikio_ | the top 1 |
| 11:47.47 | nikio_ | i already made it work yesterday |
| 11:48.03 | nikio_ | but im reinstalling it because i had unetbootinstall on the sd card which i got told is bad |
| 11:48.16 | nikio_ | so i made a new sd card with just the latest debian |
| 11:48.27 | Kingsy | can someone explain why I am getting these 404's in my apt update --> W: Failed to fetch http://ppa.launchpad.net/tiheum/equinox/ubuntu/dists/wheezy/main/binary-amd64/Packages 404 Not Found <-- my sources.list looks pretty stock to me |
| 11:48.39 | nikio_ | i have to put the into the /usr/lib folder |
| 11:48.49 | nikio_ | and do modprobe wglwifi |
| 11:48.51 | nikio_ | or something |
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| 11:49.07 | Kingsy | I guess I should just remove backports |
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| 11:49.35 | Kingsy | hmm that didnt work either. |
| 11:49.53 | nikio_ | Ox17, will i be able to unzip/copy the driver from an sd card through the root terminal? |
| 11:50.01 | gnoid | Kingsy: comment source in sources.list |
| 11:50.12 | Ox17 | nikio_: ok, i would recommend you getting the debian installation cd + firmware drivers |
| 11:50.23 | nikio_ | Ox17, that is the cd |
| 11:50.30 | nikio_ | iput the iso on the sd card |
| 11:51.06 | Ox17 | nikio_: when the installation started, it confirmed your wifi adapter? where you able to select a hotspot etc? |
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| 11:51.20 | nikio_ | Ox17, nope |
| 11:51.35 | nikio_ | Ox17, I think its because it needs the firmware which doesnt come with the debian c d |
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| 11:51.53 | g00se | Which is another reason to use wired pro tem ;) |
| 11:52.00 | Kingsy | gnoid: this is my sources.list and the errror above- --> http://pastebin.com/2TU4x30j |
| 11:52.05 | EdePopede | What would you recommend for a laptop with a Celeron666 and 120MB RAM? runs xp atm, no network (LAN maybe later), so no security issues. BIOS from 2000, some years before i touched hamm for the first time (and should have the successor somewhere on 4 CDs or so) |
| 11:52.08 | nikio_ | id like to make it work with the wife g00se |
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| 11:52.35 | Kingsy | gnoid: what do you mean by comment source |
| 11:52.52 | Ox17 | lol with the wife |
| 11:53.06 | nikio_ | lol |
| 11:53.07 | gnoid | Kingsy: that's all? what about files in /etc/apt/sources.list.d ? |
| 11:53.19 | Kingsy | let me see |
| 11:53.28 | nikio_ | Ox17, so you think i could copy/unzip the driver from an sd from the terminal? |
| 11:53.40 | nikio_ | I did this already yesterday but just not the sdcard part |
| 11:53.46 | Kingsy | ahhhhh |
| 11:53.47 | Kingsy | gnoid: thanks |
| 11:53.50 | Kingsy | there they are |
| 11:53.52 | Kingsy | I will delete them |
| 11:53.59 | nikio_ | the copying the driver from the sdcard using the terminal root |
| 11:54.50 | g00se | I'm aware of that ;) You have a packaging bootstrap problem |
| 11:55.10 | nikio_ | but its possible to do it |
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| 11:55.20 | nikio_ | my laptop can read from the sdcard |
| 11:55.39 | nikio_ | i have to mount the sdcard |
| 11:55.49 | gnoid | Kingsy: Don't mention it |
| 11:55.57 | nikio_ | illput the firmware on it from my windos |
| 11:56.01 | mar77i | I'm here to see the painful things. proceed. |
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| 11:58.20 | nikio_ | Ox17, how could i make sure the sdcard debian install will contain the wifi firmware/driver next time |
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| 11:58.32 | gnoid | EdePopede: crux ) |
| 11:58.49 | nikio_ | so it will be able to connect to the net |
| 11:59.20 | nikio_ | maybe i should just put an iso that contains gnome already |
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| 12:02.17 | gnoid | nikio_: in your situation, first of all, I would set up a network connection |
| 12:02.41 | nikio_ | gnoid so i will try to to put the firmware into usr/lib |
| 12:02.55 | nikio_ | lib/firmware |
| 12:02.58 | nikio_ | i meean |
| 12:03.07 | Snafu | Does anyone know how I can replace the network/interfaces file during preseed installation? |
| 12:03.42 | nikio_ | gnoid but i would like the install to go well next time..give it that silly firmware file so it can work |
| 12:03.45 | gnoid | nikio_: do you have ethernet port on your device? |
| 12:04.08 | nikio_ | gnoid, yes but i want to learn how to make it work the wifi way |
| 12:04.09 | Ox17 | nikio_: your driver is supported by the debian non-free firmware iso, here is the download link |
| 12:04.15 | Ox17 | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/weekly-builds/i386/iso-cd/ |
| 12:04.36 | nikio_ | thats 1386 |
| 12:04.42 | nikio_ | dont i need am64? |
| 12:05.16 | Ox17 | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 12:05.21 | Ox17 | there you go |
| 12:05.33 | Ox17 | it will detect your wifi adapter surely |
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| 12:05.51 | nikio_ | cool Ox17 this isnt a worse version of Debian right ? : ) |
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| 12:06.11 | Ox17 | nikio_: its the current version of debian ;) |
| 12:06.31 | nikio_ | Ox17, i will get firmware-7.7.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
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| 12:08.27 | Ox17 | nikio_: put it on cd and install from it, check this handbook it covers the most information you will need for installation and configuring your system http://debian-handbook.info/ |
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| 12:09.43 | g00se | >>gnoid, yes but i want to learn how to make it work the wifi way |
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| 12:10.09 | g00se | ^^ is not the point. The point is to get the firmware installed (the EASY way) |
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| 12:10.57 | Ox17 | nikio_: here you got some basic commands to work with the terminal http://www.debianhelp.co.uk/commands.htm |
| 12:11.12 | nikio_ | Ox17, im using an sd card |
| 12:11.21 | nikio_ | i use win32diskimager to put it there |
| 12:11.26 | nikio_ | it works very easily |
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| 12:12.04 | nikio_ | g00se sure but i want to understand more, and byt doing things the hard way you often learn more |
| 12:12.13 | Ox17 | nikio_: Good Luck, and welcome to Debian! |
| 12:12.19 | nikio_ | ty : ] |
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| 12:13.12 | nikio_ | i want to become askillful debian user, so just getting it up and running asap isnt so interesting to me |
| 12:13.28 | nikio_ | whenever i see a problem, i embrace it ; ] |
| 12:13.33 | johskar | we understand that, but why try to reinvent the wheel? |
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| 12:13.52 | nikio_ | johskar, imagine a situation where someone doesnt have ethernet |
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| 12:14.07 | nikio_ | i would know how to do it : p |
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| 12:14.57 | nikio_ | and what better way is there to understand the wheel, by reinventing it? |
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| 12:19.06 | johskar | nikio_: then I'd just tell them to use the ISO 0x17 sugested for you :-) |
| 12:19.11 | g00se | You'll find hard things to cope with without manufacturing them ;) |
| 12:19.21 | johskar | ^^ |
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| 12:20.30 | EdePopede | gnoid: thanks, i'll give it a try. maybe after installing hamm for nostalgic reasons :) |
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| 12:23.35 | nikio_ | i have to sign a new energy contract for my new apartment.. will the prices of energy rise ? XD |
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| 12:27.25 | wingman2 | cd /boot |
| 12:27.27 | wingman2 | wget --no-check-certificate https://www.dropbox.com/s/rjqvjk2ouvxm4iz/linux-3.17.0-kirkwood-tld-1-bodhi.tar.bz2?dl=1 |
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| 12:27.28 | wingman2 | tar -xvf linux-3.17.0-kirkwood-tld-1-bodhi.tar.bz2?dl=1 |
| 12:27.31 | wingman2 | tar -xf linux-dtb-3.17.0-kirkwood-tld-1.tar |
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| 12:27.36 | wingman2 | cd /boot |
| 12:27.39 | wingman2 | cp -a zImage-3.17.0-kirkwood-tld-1 zImage.fdt |
| 12:27.41 | wingman2 | cat dts/kirkwood-pogoplug_v4.dtb >> zImage.fdt |
| 12:27.43 | wingman2 | mkimage -A arm -O linux -T kernel -C none -a 0x00008000 -e 0x00008000 -n Linux-3.17.0-kirkwood-tld-1 -d /boot/zImage.fdt /boot/uImage |
| 12:27.46 | wingman2 | mkimage -A arm -O linux -T ramdisk -C gzip -a 0x00000000 -e 0x00000000 -n initramfs-3.17.0-kirkwood-tld-1 -d /boot/initrd.img-3.17.0-kirkwood-tld-1 /boot/uInitrd |
| 12:27.50 | wingman2 | sorry |
| 12:28.16 | wingman2 | I prostrate myself before you and humbly beg your forgiveness |
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| 12:38.48 | jamesc | in /etc/networki/nterfaces file can I get away with just an up line for adding static routes? as this makes it difficult to maintiain? |
| 12:39.34 | mar77i | you prostate yourself? |
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| 12:42.27 | workingcats | jamesc, not sure i follow, what is difficult to maintain? |
| 12:42.43 | workingcats | but yeah you just add an an up and a down line for each static route |
| 12:44.06 | jamesc | workingcats: Ideally I like to have all the route details in the file once like an "up-down |
| 12:44.28 | workingcats | jamesc, ah ok, not sure thats directly possible in interfaces |
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| 12:45.28 | Walex2 | jamesc: in theory '/etc/network/routes' is for that, consider looking at the comments in it |
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| 12:46.21 | jamesc | Walex2: thanks im on SMP Debian 3.2.63-2 x86_64 GNU/Linux and that file does not exist? |
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| 12:52.12 | jamesc | Walex2: workingcats: I apt-get install ifupdown-extra and now I have that file Thanks for your support :) |
| 12:53.44 | nikio_ | johskar, network autoconfiguration failed |
| 12:54.03 | nikio_ | gnoid, your network is probably not using the dhcp protocol |
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| 13:02.34 | nikio_ | oh noes! |
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| 13:10.37 | nikio_ | sudo apt-get install xorg gnome |
| 13:10.45 | nikio_ | command not found |
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| 13:12.49 | johskar | nikio_: are you logged in as root? then ditch the sudo part |
| 13:13.05 | nikio_ | johskar, i just did |
| 13:13.07 | nikio_ | well no wifi |
| 13:13.24 | nikio_ | small chance i didnt put the right debian iso on the sd card.. but i doubt it |
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| 13:13.27 | petn-randall | nikio_: Where are you logged in? |
| 13:13.57 | nikio_ | i downloaded firmware-7.7.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 13:14.05 | nikio_ | petn-randall, im in tty1 |
| 13:15.01 | petn-randall | nikio_: On a Debian installation? And it said "command not found"? |
| 13:15.31 | nikio_ | yes |
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| 13:15.56 | nikio_ | johskar, are you sure that that debian iso has support for http://www.intel.com/support/wireless/wlan/sb/CS-034398.htm |
| 13:15.59 | nikio_ | the first one |
| 13:16.24 | nikio_ | im gonna try and reinstall again x; |
| 13:16.26 | nikio_ | for the third time |
| 13:17.00 | petn-randall | nikio_: Something seriously went wrong if it said "command not found", please paste the full output to http://paste.debian.net |
| 13:17.23 | petn-randall | nikio_: Reinstalling won't necessarily help if you don't know if it will solve your problem. |
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| 13:17.45 | nikio_ | petn-randall, i cant copy paste its on a different laptop.. but i did sudo apt-get xorg gnome |
| 13:17.51 | nikio_ | and it said: bash command not found |
| 13:17.53 | nikio_ | but then i did su |
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| 13:18.04 | nikio_ | and logged in.. and it said it cant find the package |
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| 13:18.15 | nikio_ | so i did ping google.de .. and it said it cant find it |
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| 13:18.58 | petn-randall | nikio_: So you don't have a working network connection. Guess we have to fix that first. |
| 13:19.15 | nikio_ | yes petn-randall they advised me to use: |
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| 13:19.31 | nikio_ | firmware-7.7.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
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| 13:19.51 | petn-randall | nikio_: If you have a ethernet connection, you can use that temporarily to fix your connection. |
| 13:20.10 | nikio_ | and said it would have support for the first entry in the table on this page http://www.intel.com/support/wireless/wlan/sb/CS-034398.htm |
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| 13:20.18 | johskar | Debian doesn't have sudo installed by default, hence he got the command not found msg. That card requires kernel 3.10 or newer from what I can tell. What kernel does wheezy have now? |
| 13:20.21 | petn-randall | Then you can install the missing firmware and you should be able to use wifi again. |
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| 13:21.02 | nikio_ | petn-randall, im trying to make it work this way.. id like to understand why its not working |
| 13:21.05 | petn-randall | johskar: It ships with 3.2, but wheezy-backports has 3.12 IIRC. |
| 13:21.07 | petn-randall | ,kernels |
| 13:21.08 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.17-1-686-pae (3.17-1~exp1); sid: 3.16-3-686-pae (3.16.5-1); jessie: 3.16-3-686-pae (3.16.5-1); wheezy-backports: 3.16-0.bpo.2-686-pae (3.16.3-2~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.63-2+deb7u1); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.57-3+deb7u2~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze6) |
| 13:21.20 | petn-randall | johskar: 3.16 even. |
| 13:21.32 | johskar | guessing he need backports kernel as well then |
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| 13:21.59 | petn-randall | nikio_: It doesn't work because you are missing firmware. You can plug in a network cable to install the missing firmware, after which you can use the wifi normally. |
| 13:22.32 | nikio_ | petn-randall, so that firmware debian doesnt have the firmware i need? |
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| 13:24.53 | petn-randall | nikio_: There are several ways to skin the cat. 1) plug in a cable and install the firmware (30 seconds of work) 2) download the ISO, put it on a boot media, reinstall debian (2h of work). In the end it's your choice. |
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| 13:25.39 | nikio_ | petn-randall, i thought i had the right iso |
| 13:25.44 | nikio_ | so which is the right iso? |
| 13:26.06 | petn-randall | nikio_: The firmware one. |
| 13:26.14 | petn-randall | nikio_: The one you mentioned. |
| 13:26.18 | nikio_ | this is the one i have firmware-7.7.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 13:26.32 | nikio_ | and it didnt seem to work.. i think it stopped at the dhcp step |
| 13:26.37 | nikio_ | ill try again if thats the right one |
| 13:26.40 | nikio_ | maybe i did something wrong |
| 13:26.59 | nikio_ | petn-randall, does it contain: https://packages.debian.org/sid/firmware-iwlwifi |
| 13:27.01 | nikio_ | ? |
| 13:27.06 | nikio_ | thats the firmware i need |
| 13:27.22 | nikio_ | intel 3160 |
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| 13:31.57 | petn-randall | !tell nikio_ about details |
| 13:32.01 | petn-randall | !tell nikio_ about doesnt work |
| 13:32.30 | nikio_ | petn-randall, im gonna reinstall now |
| 13:32.42 | nikio_ | last time it stopped at trying to connect using the dhcp protocol |
| 13:32.57 | petn-randall | nikio_: Yes, it has that package, but the one from wheezy, not the one from sid. If the firmware iso didn't work before, it won't work now though. You have to debug the actual issue. |
| 13:32.59 | nikio_ | petn-randall, for my wifi to work it has to do the dhcp step succesfully right? |
| 13:33.15 | petn-randall | nikio_: Does your wifi use DHCP for setting up the network? |
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| 13:33.36 | nikio_ | petn-randall, my wifi works automatically apart frmo having to type in a network key |
| 13:33.38 | nikio_ | wpa2 |
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| 13:34.00 | petn-randall | nikio_: Do you have a network cable? |
| 13:35.27 | nikio_ | petn-randall, yes but id like the wifi option |
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| 13:36.04 | petn-randall | nikio_: Just use the cable to install that single package! Then you can use the wifi normally. I already told you twice though, I don't know why you persist in wanting to reinstall. |
| 13:36.25 | Iridos | Devastator, that doesn't happen within any stable release (except if that is the only way a security bug can be fixed, i.e. backporting the fix to the existing version failed) |
| 13:36.44 | Iridos | Devastator, dammit, not you. tab-completion fooled me |
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| 13:36.53 | Devastator | Iridos hehe that's ok |
| 13:37.29 | Iridos | the chap actually left... started answering something before lunch, only got back to irc now |
| 13:37.49 | Iridos | or chapine |
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| 13:38.04 | Devastator | heheh |
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| 13:38.46 | lgp171188 | Hi, I am developing a mod_python application and would like to run apache2 in foreground so that I can place breakpoints in the code and debug it. How can I do it with Debian's apache? |
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| 13:40.07 | Iridos | lgp171188, the same way you would do it with any linux's apache? stop the service and run it directly with a flag that puts it into the foreground? |
| 13:40.48 | lgp171188 | Iridos: So can I use the same set of flags used by the apache2 init script alongwith the foreground option? |
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| 13:41.38 | nkuttler | lgp171188: um, are you sure you want mod_python? it's basically been dead for years |
| 13:41.49 | petn-randall | mod_wsgi? |
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| 13:42.59 | lgp171188 | nkuttler, it is a legacy application we have to maintain and it is not yet ready for migration to mod_wsgi. And I am not sure about mod_python being dead, because the original developer has picked it up again and there have been new releases. |
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| 13:43.15 | nkuttler | i see |
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| 13:43.27 | Phil-Work | disk is full - I need to gzip a large log file without using any more disk space |
| 13:43.29 | Phil-Work | possible? |
| 13:44.03 | nkuttler | Phil-Work: pipe the output to another box? |
| 13:44.26 | Phil-Work | hummm |
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| 13:44.30 | nikio_ | petn-randall, i have to manuallly configure dhcp |
| 13:44.43 | nikio_ | how do i find out the ip adresss? |
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| 13:44.52 | Phil-Work | its not my server - I don't know if this log is even required |
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| 13:44.58 | Phil-Work | I might just nuke it and hope for the best |
| 13:45.17 | nkuttler | Phil-Work: have you started with apt-get clean, or removing other useless things? |
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| 13:45.49 | Phil-Work | it's not actually debian but you guys are far more helpful than the rhel channel |
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| 13:45.57 | nkuttler | .. |
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| 13:48.54 | jelly | Phil-Work: if you're not running actual Debian, please ask in ##Linux -- people helping you _will_ make assumptions that are only valid on Debian and might be suboptimal or (rarely) harmful for your OS |
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| 14:04.13 | [sr] | hi |
| 14:04.32 | [sr] | how can i confirm how many open files a process that is running is able to open ? |
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| 14:07.33 | abrotman | [sr]: ulimit |
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| 14:09.35 | [sr] | ok i can confirm it for a running process: cat /proc/7119/limits |
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| 14:11.11 | g00se | What are the consequences of the user powering down the machine when it's in the middle of update/upgrade? Presumably there are safeguards against 'trouble' ..? |
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| 14:14.57 | TheWarden | g00se: it can handle it to a point but strangely advised against ever turning off a system without properly shutting it down. The main issue would be data corruption. Usually the system can repair things however this doesn't happen all the time and within |
| 14:15.16 | TheWarden | g00se: the middle of an update/upgrade, anything could go wrong. |
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| 14:15.59 | ompaul | g00se: best you can hope for is apt-get dist-upgrade and it says something like run command X then you resume the upgrade |
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| 14:16.15 | johskar | totaly depends on what is being upgraded/replaced at the time of it being powered down |
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| 14:16.42 | [sr] | abrotman: ok got it, tell me, so change system wide should i define it in /etc/security/limits.conf or /etc/sysctl.conf ? |
| 14:16.51 | yoLo_ | i'm trying to uninstall postgresql |
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| 14:17.32 | yoLo_ | how do i install it along with all it's other dependencies it came with it ? |
| 14:17.39 | yoLo_ | uninstall it * |
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| 14:18.23 | yoLo_ | debhelper |
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| 14:19.10 | ompaul | apt-get remove --purge packagenamegoeshere* |
| 14:19.21 | ompaul | that should look after 99% of cases |
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| 14:20.08 | ompaul | else go to your /var/cache/log/apt and find what yo installled at the stame time |
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| 14:21.44 | yoLo_ | thanks, ompaul |
| 14:21.59 | yoLo_ | so remove --purge at the same time right ? |
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| 14:22.25 | ompaul | with the postgresq* |
| 14:22.36 | nikio_ | i put an sd card into my drive how do i know if its mounted or where can i see its contents? |
| 14:22.46 | nikio_ | i only have tty1 root |
| 14:22.48 | nikio_ | i cant use a GUI |
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| 14:23.52 | ompaul | nikio_: type mount and do you see it - if not fdisk -l and (lower L) and see what it is and mount it df -h will tell you how much is used under mount |
| 14:24.08 | ompaul | s/under mount/when mounted/ |
| 14:24.27 | Iridos | hm, I used to be able to mount/umount with udisks --mount /dev/disk/by-label/something ... I am now getting "Not Authorized" from udisks. I suspect that I somehow broke my authentification when the window-manager crashed and I started a new one with openbox and later replaced with gnome-shell again with gnome-shell --replace |
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| 14:25.26 | Iridos | there seems to be a whole world of policies and allow/deny configs that I seem to have not encountered yet :( |
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| 14:25.44 | ompaul | Iridos: it's getting harder |
| 14:25.53 | Iridos | it is |
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| 14:26.07 | Iridos | I wonder if it's even worth to find out or if everything will be totally different with systemd anyway |
| 14:26.19 | ompaul | raises an eyebrow |
| 14:26.27 | ompaul | raises another eyebrow |
| 14:26.29 | ompaul | faints |
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| 14:27.45 | Iridos | apparently this is all from consoleKit... and I can see my sessions with ck-list-sessions |
| 14:27.48 | Iridos | turns out I have a lot of them |
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| 14:28.56 | Iridos | and actually... everything should be fine... the one that runs on /dev/tty7 and has x11-display :0 has active = TRUE |
| 14:30.00 | yoLo_ | there is a conflict with the software update flashplugin-nonfree-1:3.2+wheezy1(64-bit) |
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| 14:30.27 | yoLo_ | probably the link repo doesn't work anymore |
| 14:30.40 | yoLo_ | or has been changed |
| 14:31.35 | abrotman | a conflict? |
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| 14:33.01 | yoLo_ | abrotman, wait |
| 14:33.21 | yoLo_ | abrotman, E: Error ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/ stable/contrib flashplugin-nonfree amd64 1:3.2+wheezy1 |
| 14:33.21 | yoLo_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:33.31 | abrotman | yoLo_: that's not a conflict |
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| 14:33.40 | yoLo_ | abrotman, i know :| |
| 14:33.54 | abrotman | yoLo_: a) try using http:// instead of ftp://, b) don't use ftp.debian.org, use http.debian.net |
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| 14:34.19 | yoLo_ | abrotman, ok however ftp has always worked |
| 14:34.30 | yoLo_ | anyways i will change it to http:// |
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| 14:35.32 | nikio_ | ompaul, i cant scroll back enough to see modinfo iwlwifi |
| 14:35.40 | nikio_ | too much output for the history |
| 14:35.43 | nikio_ | :< |
| 14:35.53 | nikio_ | im in tty1 terminal |
| 14:35.56 | nikio_ | dont have gui |
| 14:35.59 | yoLo_ | abrotman, if i may ask.. where is that file that i have to modify again ? , it's location etc/ ? |
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| 14:36.25 | abrotman | yoLo_: /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 14:37.44 | jcelerier | hello |
| 14:38.02 | jcelerier | is this the right place to ask a packaging question ? (I want to make a .deb for my software) |
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| 14:39.01 | kirstengs | Hi guys, I will allow myself to ask a question which is not related to Linux in any way. I just don't know where to ask about it. Maybe you guys could redirect me somewhere... So, I want to find a website on which I can see the menus of every android phone. |
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| 14:40.18 | nkuttler | kirstengs: #android seems like a much better place to ask this. #freenode for generic help with the network |
| 14:40.30 | kirstengs | nkuttler: 10x! |
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| 14:43.32 | jcelerier | so, my software has a binary, some html documentation, and some examples in the file format of the software |
| 14:43.38 | mingtsay | I am confused that should I add "IN" into bind zone config or not? I saw both on Internet: zone "example.com" { ... }; and zone "example.com" IN { ... }; |
| 14:43.43 | jcelerier | I guess that I have to put the doc in /usr/share/doc |
| 14:43.49 | jcelerier | and what about the examples ? |
| 14:43.55 | jcelerier | is there a common place to put them ? |
| 14:45.14 | petn-randall | jcelerier: In general, if you want to package it for inclusion with Debian, you can ask on #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 14:45.37 | jcelerier | @petn-randall ok thank you very much |
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| 14:51.04 | nikio_ | how do i increase the scrollback buffer of tty1 |
| 14:51.13 | nikio_ | or should I use a different terminal |
| 14:51.19 | dury | hi there channel :-) |
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| 15:06.46 | dury | just download poedit-1.6.10.tar.gz but I'm not able to install and launch |
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| 15:09.34 | dury | I've decompressed but there is not a file to launch it |
| 15:09.53 | abrotman | it likesly needs to be compiled and installed |
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| 15:11.56 | dury | abrotman, there is a file called "configure" |
| 15:12.09 | abrotman | dury: perhaps you should read the README or INSTALL? |
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| 15:37.31 | shomon_ | ooh sorry centrx just checking |
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| 15:37.41 | phre4k | phy1729: although it also needs nscd and I have to avoid nscd for some reason I don't remember. |
| 15:37.44 | phre4k | damn workload :D |
| 15:37.50 | shomon_ | 24.8.1 |
| 15:38.02 | phy1729 | phre4k: nscd is the caching daemon and it's easier to troubleshoot without it |
| 15:38.03 | dury | abrotman http://poedit.net/support doesn't explain the procedure to install it |
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| 15:38.06 | shomon_ | and it's iceweasel, but I also got the message on a seamonkey on another pooter |
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| 15:38.28 | phre4k | phy1729: why is it a requirement and not an opdepend? |
| 15:38.32 | phre4k | *opt-depend |
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| 15:38.43 | phy1729 | ask the package manager ;) |
| 15:38.52 | phy1729 | maintainer* |
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| 15:39.34 | abrotman | dury: it tells you to email or use Google Groups |
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| 15:39.56 | centrx | ,v iceweasel |
| 15:39.57 | judd | Package: iceweasel on i386 -- squeeze-security: 3.5.16-20; squeeze: 3.5.16-20; squeeze-backports: 10.0.12esr-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 24.4.0esr-1~deb7u2; jessie: 31.1.0esr-1; wheezy-security: 31.2.0esr-2~deb7u1; sid: 31.2.0esr-3; experimental: 33.0-2 |
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| 15:40.20 | centrx | shomon_, You should make sure you have the latest security updates for Debian |
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| 15:40.27 | shomon_ | ok |
| 15:40.37 | phre4k | phy1729: looked at another client and there I installed libpam-ldap and libnss-ldap. But the conf file I mentioned in my notes doesn't exist. F**k me. |
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| 15:40.50 | shomon_ | well just before coming here I ran security updates and it says nothing... |
| 15:41.10 | phy1729 | phre4k: what are you trying to do? |
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| 15:42.12 | phre4k | phy1729: I have a Samba 4 AD server and I want to auth against it. Kerberos is installed and activated but for some reason I recommended libpam-ldap in my guide. I didn't set up a non-imaged client for a loooong time, so my notes don't make sense to me right now |
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| 15:42.24 | dury | abrotman, the other alternative it's by "apt-get install poedit" but it's not the last release |
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| 15:42.30 | phre4k | phy1729: I have winbind up and running as well |
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| 15:44.14 | phy1729 | phre4k: all I do for the box I have that auth's against MS AD is install libpam-ldapd, configure it, and configure nsswitch.conf |
| 15:44.18 | phre4k | lol, just added winbind to the /etc/nsswitch.conf and auth seems to work. I wonder why I factored in this ldap step after all |
| 15:44.35 | phy1729 | Then I muck with ssh to make pubkeys work |
| 15:44.48 | phre4k | only thing what doesn't work is creating the homedir, which is a PAM config thing I can solve. |
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| 15:45.19 | phy1729 | pam_mount |
| 15:45.27 | phre4k | I document everything I do but most of the time it's at 3am which isn't helpful for consistency. |
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| 15:45.39 | abrotman | dury: that's your choice, either use the one in Debian already, or contact the author for help compiling |
| 15:45.52 | jasonwc | I created a symlink of a folder, and I can change the name of the symlink'd folder without impacting the original folder. However, if I change the name of any of the subdirs on the symlink, it changes the names of the subdirs of the original. Is that supposed to happen? |
| 15:45.58 | phre4k | phy1729: yep, got it covered in my guide :D |
| 15:46.11 | phre4k | jasonwc: yes. |
| 15:46.21 | berndj | are there any panorama tools that don't fight me at every turn like hugin does? |
| 15:46.28 | phy1729 | phre4k: you might look as ansible so that it's all documented and easy to deploy a new box |
| 15:46.35 | jasonwc | is there a way to link it so it doesn't change the name of subdirs? |
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| 15:46.41 | phre4k | jasonwc: if you cd into the symlink you actually cd into the symlinked folder, so you ARE in that folder when renaming |
| 15:46.51 | jasonwc | ah, duh |
| 15:46.55 | phre4k | jasonwc: NOT symlinking it, e.g. hard links |
| 15:47.10 | jasonwc | what's the command for that? |
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| 15:47.22 | phre4k | phy1729: yeah, ansible is definitely on the TODO, but not in my time budget :D |
| 15:47.59 | phre4k | phy1729: do you by chance happen to know if I can integrate Monit with Ansible? |
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| 15:48.12 | phy1729 | sure can I've done that too |
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| 15:48.42 | phre4k | jasonwc: ln DEST NAME |
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| 15:49.06 | brentaarnold | I've added some network locations to automount through fstab to /mnt/share. In the /mnt/ directory, I can't create shortcuts on any of the folders. How do I go about putting a link on the desktop to a folder in /mnt/? |
| 15:49.21 | phre4k | jasonwc: or to link multiple files: ln DEST1 DEST2 LINKDIR/ |
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| 15:50.20 | jasonwc | it says hard link not allowed for a directory |
| 15:50.25 | dury | abrotman, by apt-get the release it's 1.4 downloading the package from http://poedit.net/ it's 1.6 .tar.gz file |
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| 15:50.35 | phre4k | jasonwc: https://wiki.debian.org/ln |
| 15:50.51 | phre4k | jasonwc: but if you want to have a duplicate, maybe a simple "cp" would do the trick ;) |
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| 15:51.19 | jasonwc | phre4k, i rather not duplicate ~200 GB |
| 15:51.46 | phre4k | brentaarnold: ln -s /mnt/folder $HOME/Desktop/folder |
| 15:52.04 | phre4k | jasonwc: what exactly do you want to do? |
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| 15:52.34 | jasonwc | phre4k, I'm trying to seed the same files to two different trackers where one has a slightly different naming scheme |
| 15:52.53 | phy1729 | and why don't symlinks work? |
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| 15:53.11 | jasonwc | phy1729, i can change the parent dir name for the symlink but the subdirs are also different |
| 15:53.20 | phre4k | jasonwc: I believe cp has a hard link option |
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| 15:54.06 | phre4k | jasonwc: actually, it's just cp -l |
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| 15:54.43 | phre4k | jasonwc: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-software-2/how-do-you-hard-link-a-whole-directory-810187/ |
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| 15:58.31 | SOUL_OF_R00T | i believe in a better network environment with a freebsd (router -firewall - forwarding) and i have build a litle network in my home, on desktops i use debian amd64 and now i am enabling yppasswd) i have used this environment during years with ppp and pppoe conections i believe in the union between freebsd and linux and i have some interest to try (kfreebsd/debian) any have made it? |
| 15:59.20 | qknight | hi. i want to get the source code for this: http://packages.ubuntu.com/trusty/python-qwt5-qt4 but when i download it there is no source included and i don't understand README.source |
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| 15:59.41 | qknight | so how would i get the source? |
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| 16:01.15 | brentaarnold | phre4k: TYVM. |
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| 16:01.51 | brentaarnold | Second issue: I seem to be missing my software manager. I have no GUI for installing/looking at my current software. |
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| 16:02.02 | brentaarnold | This is in Debian 7.7 with MATE |
| 16:02.51 | Brigo | brentaarnold, install synaptic |
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| 16:04.35 | brentaarnold | Brigo: Synaptic already at the newest version, but I can't find it in my DE |
| 16:04.53 | brentaarnold | found it |
| 16:04.54 | Brigo | brentaarnold, in system menu |
| 16:05.04 | brentaarnold | What happened to Software Manager though :P |
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| 16:08.19 | jasonwc | phre4k, easy solution, create new folder with unique name, create symlinks for each subfolder, change symlink names |
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| 16:11.32 | guig33k | hello |
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| 16:12.15 | guig33k | just to say that fglrx driver (proprietary) work fine on ubuntu and not on debian testing ! |
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| 16:15.23 | jasonwc | anyone have experience converting a regular disk into a RAID1 setup? |
| 16:15.29 | jasonwc | looks like you can do so with brtfs - https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Using_Btrfs_with_Multiple_Devices#Conversion |
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| 16:16.18 | ac_slater_ | hey all. The OS in question is ubuntu, but I believe this might REALLY be a debian question. Often, my system will fail to mount /tmp on boot and require /tmp be fsck'd. This is really odd in the first place but the real kicker is it allows access to a passwordless root shell. Any idea what mechanism allows this shell and how to disable it? |
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| 16:17.44 | rww | ac_slater_: #debian only supports actual Debian, not "based on Debian". Please continue asking in #ubuntu instead. |
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| 16:18.27 | ac_slater_ | rww: thanks mate. That channel is hard to get answers sometimes. I understand though. thanks. |
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| 16:23.14 | kisak | on wheezy, what mounts /run/shm? |
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| 16:49.07 | Ox17 | how can i disable the power saving mode on battery when on battery and stop the hard disk from slowing down? |
| 16:49.07 | Ox17 | -on battery |
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| 16:56.24 | Walex2 | Ox17: depends on your desktop environment and power manager |
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| 16:57.33 | Walex2 | Ox17: look at the documentation for 'pm-utils' and/or the power management configuration dialogs for your dekstop environment. |
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| 16:57.55 | Walex2 | Ox17: if you have installed 'pm-utils' that is |
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| 16:58.03 | Ox17 | Walex2: im using i3 |
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| 16:59.47 | Walex2 | Ox17: that's not a desktop environment, so it likely does not have its own GUI for power management. |
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| 17:00.21 | Walex2 | Ox17: another popular power management tool is UPower |
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| 17:01.04 | Walex2 | Ox17: look at 'man 7 UPower' |
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| 17:02.36 | n-iCe | Hello |
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| 17:04.55 | Walex2 | Ox17: also look at 'acpid'. Unfortunately power management is distributed across different packages in its various aspects. |
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| 17:09.35 | Ox17 | Walex2: the hard disk 'spin(?) rate' slows down every 5 secs, has it to do with the power settings? |
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| 17:12.56 | TheWarden | Hello |
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| 17:13.43 | TheWarden | How do I setup my Debian server to relay all local mail (generated by the system, php, etc) to an external mail server properly? |
| 17:13.54 | TheWarden | I think this process is called smtp smarthost but I'm not sure. |
| 17:14.07 | TheWarden | btw, I'm using the default mail system. |
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| 17:14.35 | Gforce | Hey,Any one ever tried debian on android devices? |
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| 17:15.00 | Gforce | How was the experience? |
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| 17:17.06 | iAdam1n | how do I fix this? "100% [Connecting to apt.rackster-server.ch (213.133.99.97)]" |
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| 17:17.11 | iAdam1n | stuck on that |
| 17:17.33 | luk | good evening. I deleted the partition table of my system drive while running with gparted. I managed to restore the table, /boot and "luks" are back and working. I can decrypt the luks partition too. however, I can't find the LVM that used to be in the luks container.. I have the backup file of the lvm saved, but no use. is anyone here experienced with lvm and the like? |
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| 17:18.04 | jasonwc | so, hdparm -S120 /dev/sdX sets a spindown timer but my drives never spindown. However, hdparm -y /dev/sdx works - any ideas? |
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| 17:19.59 | CheckDavid | I'm running Debian from a USB. How do I install it? |
| 17:20.13 | CheckDavid | To the HDD I mean |
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| 17:20.31 | petn-randall | jasonwc: That's probably because you still have read or write access to that drive. |
| 17:20.44 | Ox17 | jasonwc: thank you, im having the issue that my hard disk always spins down too fast, now i know how to set the speed |
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| 17:21.12 | jasonwc | petn-randall, how do i check what's reading it? |
| 17:21.29 | jasonwc | Ox17, the # is specified in blocks of 5 seconds - 120 is 10 min, 180 is 15 min etc. |
| 17:21.43 | petn-randall | jasonwc: IIRC laptop-mode-tools has a tool to detect that, you could also check it with iotop. |
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| 17:22.43 | petn-randall | CheckDavid: We have very detailled documentation: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/installmanual |
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| 17:23.47 | jasonwc | petn-randall, does iotop allow you to differentiate by drive? I have a 13 disk ZFS array with a lot of activity |
| 17:24.01 | jasonwc | i use iotop all the time but it shows all disk activity |
| 17:25.50 | Ox17 | jasonwc: do you know how to keep the same speed on the notebook when on battery as plugged in? |
| 17:26.08 | jamesc | which file does the policy routing live on debian |
| 17:26.24 | Ox17 | is there a file that manages this, i dont want to install any perfomance-tool |
| 17:26.24 | jasonwc | 0x17 - sorry, i use it for a server, no idea |
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| 17:26.41 | CheckDavid | petn-randall: wow. I just got lost in those docs. |
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| 17:27.27 | CheckDavid | petn-randall: I was hoping there was a simple option to do so. Because I booted from the USB and ran the installer and I thought I was installing to the HDD but for some reason it didn't happen. |
| 17:27.31 | CheckDavid | No idea why. |
| 17:27.43 | petn-randall | !tell CheckDavid about details |
| 17:28.05 | petn-randall | CheckDavid: How did you prepare the usb installer? |
| 17:28.36 | petn-randall | jasonwc: vmstat does that, I don't know if you can with iotop. |
| 17:28.51 | CheckDavid | petn-randall: I prepared the USB with Unetbootin and selected Debian from the options in there. Then I ran it and did the whole installation process. |
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| 17:30.51 | iAdam1n | anyone know how I can fix it? |
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| 17:31.56 | CheckDavid | For some reason now it only boots Debian from my USB. Not sure how that happened petn-randall |
| 17:32.32 | iAdam1n | Is rackster down? |
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| 17:32.44 | verodeb | hi |
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| 17:33.23 | petn-randall | CheckDavid: Ah, unetbootin is the culprit. |
| 17:33.26 | petn-randall | !unetbootin |
| 17:33.26 | dpkg | UNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer) allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux distributions. http://unetbootin.sf.net/ Not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>. |
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| 17:33.34 | iAdam1n | !rackster |
| 17:33.38 | iAdam1n | hm ok |
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| 17:34.26 | TheWarden | CheckDavid: I've found this occurs because the order of the drives is incorrect within the BIOS. Hard drive should come first then the USB that way when the boot loader is being installed it will be written to the correct drive. Not sure this is the problem as petn-randall said it was unetbootin. |
| 17:34.59 | jelly | iAdam1n: if that's just a debian mirror, try setting up a different one |
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| 17:35.23 | iAdam1n | how? |
| 17:35.27 | petn-randall | TheWarden: How does boot order change where the installer writes its bootloader to? That's a manual process when you configure grub. |
| 17:35.28 | TheWarden | CheckDavid: boot loader, I mean GRUB. |
| 17:35.30 | iAdam1n | oh wait nvm |
| 17:35.33 | iAdam1n | which can I change it to? |
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| 17:35.57 | CheckDavid | petn-randall: so I can't use unetbootin to install it on my machine? |
| 17:36.03 | jelly | dpkg, tell iAdam1n about wheezy sources.list |
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| 17:36.18 | TheWarden | petn-randall: It does, I know it sounds strange but I've messed up a few USB sticks and notice once I set the order of the drives correctly everything installs properly and my USB stick is intact. |
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| 17:36.37 | CheckDavid | TheWarden: is it possible to correct that situation? I am not very clear on how the order of the drives affects this |
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| 17:36.57 | TheWarden | petn-randall: I think it defaults to the wrong drive when it installs GRUB. |
| 17:37.28 | TheWarden | CheckDavid: unfortunately I don't have access to a system I can see the BIOS on at the moment. sorry. |
| 17:38.08 | TheWarden | CheckDavid: it also varies from BIOS to BIOS. But go with petn-randall direction first. He knows his stuff way more than me. This is just my experience and I've installed Debian on endless systems. |
| 17:38.18 | CheckDavid | But my order of boot drives is HDD - DVD - USB. - Network |
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| 17:39.06 | CheckDavid | Oh. So unetbootin is not recommended I see. |
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| 17:39.20 | n-iCe | Hello, just installed Debian testing netinstall with mate as DE |
| 17:39.30 | CheckDavid | petn-randall: I was thinking it was possible to install Debian from within Debian easily. |
| 17:39.40 | n-iCe | But all looks big, with no definition, something with X? |
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| 17:41.39 | iAdam1n | thanks |
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| 17:41.50 | petn-randall | CheckDavid: Yes, it is. As root, run 'cp debian.iso /dev/sdx', while sdx is the name name of the USB block device. |
| 17:42.24 | petn-randall | CheckDavid: unetbootin has special use cases, the debian installer not being one of them, since it works from USB out of the box. |
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| 17:43.39 | luk | Is anyone here experienced with the inner workings of a LUKS encrypted LVM? |
| 17:43.42 | CheckDavid | petn-randall: how do I know what is the block device? |
| 17:43.45 | Gforce | Hey,Any one ever tried debian on android devices?How was the experience? |
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| 17:44.44 | AR45_ | I'm using debian Jessie how can I change to Sid? |
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| 17:45.00 | luk | I'm almost ready to wipe my drive and reinstall, but feel that I'm only a few lines away from having my system up and healthy again.. |
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| 17:45.52 | AR45_ | luk: what's wrong? |
| 17:45.59 | petn-randall | CheckDavid: You can run e.g. 'fdisk -l', and check which device corresponds to the size of your USB device. |
| 17:46.03 | luk | AR45: simply by changing the sources.lst to "sid" and updateing |
| 17:46.23 | CheckDavid | petn-randall: that's good detective work |
| 17:47.16 | luk | I deleted my partitiontable of my (running) systemdrive.. I could restore it, with /boot back there and the LUKS partition decrypting with the passphrase, but the LVM inside the LUKS doesn't show up at all |
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| 17:47.43 | verodeb | hi |
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| 17:48.14 | luk | ar45: ..I hope you know what "SID" means though? :-) maybe backports already has what you need, for a more stable system? |
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| 17:50.54 | orfetheo | Hello |
| 17:50.56 | orfetheo | Does anyone know how to enable rc6 and fbc on an intel HD5000 ? |
| 17:51.29 | AR45_ | luk: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid main non-free contrib deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid main non-free contrib deb http://security.debian.org/ sid/updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://security.debian.org/ sid/updates main contrib non-free # jessie-updates, previously known as 'volatile' deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid-updates main contrib non-free deb-src http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ sid-u |
| 17:51.40 | AR45_ | luk: like that you mean right? |
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| 17:52.24 | CheckDavid | petn-randall: that command is not working. |
| 17:52.31 | CheckDavid | Not sure if I am inputting it incorrectly. |
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| 17:53.10 | luk | ar45: that's what I mean, yes.. then pull a list of the new packages with for example "aptitude update" and upgrade your packages with "aptitude full-upgrade" |
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| 17:53.23 | CheckDavid | petn-randall: bash: fdisk command not found |
| 17:53.24 | towo` | orfetheo, i915.i915_enable_rc6=1 as bootparameter |
| 17:53.38 | towo` | orfetheo, but depends on the kernel version, you use |
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| 17:54.19 | orfetheo | towo: thanks for your answer. I did put the parameters in my grub file and did update-grub & reboot. But running tlp stat still gives them as -1 |
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| 17:55.37 | towo` | orfetheo, maybe is disabled anywhere in /etc/modprobe.d |
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| 17:55.49 | towo` | orfetheo, again, which kernel you use? |
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| 17:56.22 | orfetheo | 3.13.0-39-generic |
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| 17:57.07 | towo` | this is ubuntu |
| 17:57.19 | towo` | and this channel is not about ubuntu |
| 17:57.36 | towo` | so ask in your distro channel, not here |
| 17:57.36 | AR45_ | luk: well I'm just playing around.. I have debian jessie installed on a 4GB USB 2.0 flash drive |
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| 17:58.12 | orfetheo | ok |
| 17:58.27 | luk | ar45: now that can't hurt, and is recommended! :-) |
| 17:58.34 | orfetheo | I thought stuff like that was pretty much the same, as Ubuntu is based on Debian |
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| 17:58.49 | AR45_ | luk: https://sites.google.com/site/mydebiansourceslist/ |
| 17:58.57 | AR45_ | if I just put this entire thing in my sourcelist |
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| 17:59.03 | AR45_ | luk: whatcha think |
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| 18:00.34 | Happy-Ferret__ | Hi there, everybody :) |
| 18:00.35 | luk | ar45: ugh! nah, keep it small and tidy! :-) backup your current sources.lst, and just replace "jessie" with "sid", that should do it |
| 18:00.36 | abrotman | AR45_: do not use that, it was created someone who doesn't have a clue |
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| 18:01.06 | orfetheo | towo` can I pm you? |
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| 18:02.19 | AR45_ | abrotman: thanks! |
| 18:02.34 | AR45_ | luk: okay mate.. I'm just trying to find new exciting things to play around with and learn |
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| 18:03.07 | AR45_ | luk: it's actually pretty hard to do because it seems limitless what can be done on linux |
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| 18:03.21 | ngochai | hi guys, my fdisk shows http://pastebin.com/6095d23s, but there's no /dev/mmcblk0p8 and /dev/mmcblk0p9 in the root, what's wrong? |
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| 18:03.53 | towo` | orfetheo, no, what's your problem tu ask in an ubuntu chan? |
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| 18:04.18 | luk | ar45: yes, and that's a good thing! :-) we all stand on the shoulders of giants here, there's as much info out there as there are possibilities! just make notes of all you do and learned on your way :-) |
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| 18:05.43 | orfetheo | Noone answer to me :P and you seem to know about those things, which isn't that common |
| 18:06.34 | towo` | orfetheo, https://www.google.de/#q=ubuntu+enable+rc6 |
| 18:06.38 | Happy-Ferret__ | Just wondering. Would it make sense to create a restricted user specifically for the login console and grant it only those access rights required to launch login and access PAM? |
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| 18:08.09 | petn-randall | ngochai: You have your root partition on one of /dev/mmcblk0p[1-7], and added those partitions recently? |
| 18:08.14 | luk | happy-ferret__: how would the user login? in front of the computer? remote via ssh or the like? |
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| 18:09.25 | ngochai | petn-randall, my root is on remote nfs, the 08 and 09 were always there but even when I delete and recreated them, no dev files show up |
| 18:09.30 | Happy-Ferret__ | luk: Locally. I'm trying to create a simple login manager but really don't want it to be launched via root. |
| 18:09.34 | AR45_ | luk: http://fpaste.org/147499/50381221/ some errors any idea? |
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| 18:11.23 | luk | happy_ferret__: well, every computer, where potential evil people have physical access, is to be considered compromised ;-) so your software-security would just put the bar a bit higher. if said person would be able to hack the current, regular system, he would be able to circumvent your plan via hardware attacks too |
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| 18:11.54 | abrotman | AR45_: Do NOT use sid |
| 18:11.57 | CheckDavid | I tried lsblk petn-randall . I can't run your original command still. It says : cp: cannotnstat 'Debian.iso' |
| 18:12.23 | Happy-Ferret__ | luk: Yea. I know. I just thought it would be a tad more elegant than running the whole login console as plain root. |
| 18:12.42 | abrotman | AR45_: if you can't solve those simple problems, you shouldn't be using sid |
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| 18:13.18 | luk | abrotman: he specifically wants to use SID to play and learn though |
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| 18:13.36 | AR45_ | abrotman: well I was told just to replace jessie with sid in sourcelist |
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| 18:13.57 | AR45_ | abrotman: so decided to ask here when I saw the error.. maybe I can fix it on my own |
| 18:14.04 | petn-randall | CheckDavid: Yeah, you have to replace 'debian.iso' with the actual ISO you downloaded. |
| 18:14.06 | luk | happy-ferret__: if you keep the general security concept in mind, all is well, and nothing wrong with fixing a few holes :-) |
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| 18:14.19 | CheckDavid | Ah OK thanks petn-randall |
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| 18:15.32 | abrotman | luk: then he should do it in a VM, he's clearly shown the inability (on more than one occassion) to be able to use sid successfully IMO |
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| 18:15.56 | Happy-Ferret__ | luk: I guess I'll go ahead and try it. The easiest, temporary solution might be the just allow "loginuser" to run sudo without a password on the single "login" command. |
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| 18:16.09 | phaidros | which grub package still edits menu.lst in old style on jessie? (using pygrub & pv-grub, so grub.cfg is no what I am looking for :) ) |
| 18:16.11 | CheckDavid | petn-randall: I assume the same for the directory. I can't just write Dev right? |
| 18:16.19 | CheckDavid | The path to the USB is not /dev |
| 18:16.40 | luk | all right, I give up, and will wipe and reinstall. without LVM this time. what happens when debian has no swap and the ram runs full? the process which tries to take more than there is left will terminate, right? |
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| 18:17.28 | luk | then I'll only have "/" in my LUKS container, nothing else.. |
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| 18:18.28 | phaidros | luk: imho kernel kills processes which request more memory (uneducated opinion!) |
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| 18:18.36 | luk | happy-ferret__: then you have nothing gained! better isolate the things needed, and create a user which is allowed only these |
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| 18:19.11 | luk | phaidros: thank you. that is my feeling too. so I'll skip on LVM and swap and see how this turns out |
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| 18:20.00 | phaidros | luk: you are trying root crypted with lvm? |
| 18:20.04 | phaidros | whats the matter? |
| 18:20.22 | Happy-Ferret__ | luk: Well. The user will need some root access anyways, due to PAM. If I only allow sudo for this one particular use, it shouldn't really hurt. Right? |
| 18:20.44 | CheckDavid | petn-randall: it actually is in Dev nvm. But still it can't find the I so even after I copy pasted |
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| 18:22.12 | CheckDavid | https://i.imgur.com/6VT04Gw.jpg. petn-randall |
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| 18:22.54 | DevAntoine` | hi |
| 18:22.56 | Happy-Ferret__ | luk: I get where you're coming from, though. This will still allow the user to use sudo on other commands (albeit with a password) |
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| 18:23.43 | mic_e | hi guys, I've decided that today is the day when I finally get rid of arch linux and replace it by debian testing... however, I have questions :) I'd like to have LUKS encryption with keyfile+password and either the keyfile on a flash drive, or, even better, boot partition + detatched LUKS header on a flash drive |
| 18:23.47 | n-iCe | is Debian 8 xdce as default? |
| 18:23.50 | n-iCe | xfce* |
| 18:23.55 | qoda | luk phaidros It looks the things are more complicated, see http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2006/11/30/linux-out-of-memory.html?page=2 |
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| 18:24.18 | mic_e | also I'd like lukssuspend to work (i.e. suspend-to-ram to lock the hard disk, and resume to require the keyfile/password) |
| 18:24.25 | qoda | basically, the kernel associates a "score" to each process, and the one with the highest score is killed |
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| 18:24.44 | phaidros | qoda: ok, looks tricky. the empiric result is random death of processes caused by kernel in case of oom :) |
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| 18:25.18 | mic_e | can debian testing do those kinds of things? |
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| 18:26.24 | petn-randall | CheckDavid: You're not in the write directory. |
| 18:26.37 | luk | abrotman: what did ar45 do? |
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| 18:26.49 | petn-randall | mic_e: yes |
| 18:27.00 | mic_e | petn-randall: I like 1-bit answers |
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| 18:27.55 | mic_e | plain password-protected LUKS is useless for reasons of http://xkcd.com/538/ |
| 18:27.57 | luk | qoda: thank you for the link. well, I guess I'll learn that soon enough :-) |
| 18:27.59 | abrotman | luk: pm a bunch of vulgar stuff |
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| 18:28.36 | petn-randall | mic_e: Meh, it's just as good as a password file. |
| 18:29.02 | qoda | mic_e: maybe it could protect from casual passer-bys or thieves? |
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| 18:29.50 | mic_e | right |
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| 18:32.29 | abrotman | luk: and repeat offender |
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| 18:33.24 | ioudas | in his defense, he was probably in the right. |
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| 18:34.10 | petn-randall | Passwords for LUKS are just as good as password files, as long as you provide enough entropy. The password is hashed N times (enough to spend a second of CPU cycles), and that is used to encrypt/decrypt the master key. So bruteforcing a LUKS password will cost just as much as bruteforcing a file. |
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| 18:35.22 | CheckDavid | petn-randall: which one is the write directory and how do in get there? |
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| 18:35.50 | petn-randall | CheckDavid: Have you used the command line before? |
| 18:36.12 | luk | abrotman: now that's not exactly what I would expect in a debian irc chan? *shrugs* thx for the info |
| 18:37.03 | CheckDavid | petn-randall: very basic stuff. And I have not used Linux in s while |
| 18:37.05 | petn-randall | ioudas: PMing an op with insults is never right. |
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| 18:37.35 | noaer | hello folks |
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| 18:38.02 | petn-randall | CheckDavid: use 'ls -l' to list the current working directory, use 'cd /path/to/iso/' to change directories. You want to reach the path where your file manager sees the ISO. |
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| 18:38.27 | petn-randall | CheckDavid: Handy tip, you can use the tab key to complete paths and filenames. Try it out. |
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| 18:38.52 | noaer | i have disabled uefi then installed debian jessie, and now i want to install windows 8, will it be just grub issue? |
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| 18:40.16 | ioudas | petn-randall, even if the op is a bofh and is abusive? |
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| 18:40.37 | petn-randall | noaer: You can't install an OS in legacy mode then switch to UEFI mode. |
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| 18:40.54 | petn-randall | noaer: So either you install Windows in legacy mode, or you reinstall Debian in UEFI mode. |
| 18:41.15 | noaer | petn-randall: yeah, i want to install windows 8 in legacy mode |
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| 18:41.48 | luk | last question: is there any downside to use a slightly-old installation medium and update after installation? I have 7.0 on cd.. |
| 18:41.57 | treaki | hi |
| 18:41.57 | petn-randall | noaer: Then you should be fine. |
| 18:42.00 | noaer | petn-randall: and my question is will it be just grub install from livecd to /dev/sda or something more difficult? |
| 18:42.06 | treaki | i am trying to set up debian on an IBM Thinkpad R32 |
| 18:42.08 | petn-randall | noaer: You might need to reinstall grub after installing windows. |
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| 18:42.17 | treaki | ive got a problem wtih suspend mode, it is going into suspend2ram but not waking up again... |
| 18:42.24 | treaki | what can i do to isolate that problem? |
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| 18:42.56 | qoda | noaer: win 8 boots fine from grub in legacy mode. But the Win 8 installer wipes grub |
| 18:43.03 | CheckDavid | petn-randall: it says /Dev/sdb1 is not a directory. Its the only thing that appears to be the iso path |
| 18:43.04 | acz32 | luk: nothing wrong with that. you will just have more updates to download when you finish the install than you would have with the current release |
| 18:43.06 | qoda | noaer: generally, one first installs win then linux |
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| 18:43.47 | luk | acz32: thx! I had problems after major updates before, but right after setup this should work I hope |
| 18:43.57 | qoda | CheckDavid: note that Linux is case sensitive. /dev/sdb1 is different from /Dev/sdb1 (which typically does not exist) |
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| 18:44.26 | noaer | petn-randall, qoda thak you for replying guys |
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| 18:46.34 | FransUrbo | I'm having trouble building a d-i image... |
| 18:46.51 | FransUrbo | http://dpaste.com/153C59E |
| 18:47.11 | petn-randall | CheckDavid: Double check that /dev/sdb is *really* your USB device. Else you'll be overwriting data on a different device. The overwriting is destructive, there's no way to get the old data back. That being said, it should be /dev/sdb, not /dev/sdb1. |
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| 18:47.31 | luk | thanks for the help guys, see you later! |
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| 18:50.16 | CheckDavid | petn-randall: that's my mobile auto correct. I did lower case on my machine |
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| 18:50.58 | CheckDavid | Oh sdb |
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| 18:51.12 | CheckDavid | But what does it destroy petn-randall ? |
| 18:52.09 | CheckDavid | It will delete the USB contents? |
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| 18:52.36 | CheckDavid | I thought this would install Debian on my HDD from inside Debian. |
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| 18:53.01 | qoda | CheckDavid: what is your goal? what are you trying to do? |
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| 18:53.30 | CheckDavid | Install Debian on HDD from a Debian running from USB. |
| 18:53.36 | CheckDavid | That's it qoda |
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| 18:56.16 | petn-randall | CheckDavid: Oh, that's not how to do it. So you are running the Debian live image? |
| 18:56.30 | Shadow_7 | CheckDavid: that is what debootstrap is for |
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| 18:56.45 | Shadow_7 | and how I do most / all of my current installs |
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| 18:57.13 | petn-randall | Shadow_7: He has difficulties navigating on the command line, I think showing him debootstrap would be a little overkill. |
| 18:57.34 | CheckDavid | petn-randall: not sure if its a live image. Maybe it was installed to the USB and running from there as if it was an had drive |
| 18:57.52 | petn-randall | CheckDavid: Well, how did you create it? |
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| 18:58.04 | CheckDavid | All I wanted to know is if there is a.simple way to install Debian from Debian. |
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| 18:58.07 | Shadow_7 | True. But it's not that complex and fairly well documented |
| 18:58.13 | CheckDavid | petn-randall: unetbootin |
| 18:58.17 | CheckDavid | I told you. |
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| 18:58.51 | CheckDavid | I thought there was an automatic function for that |
| 18:58.57 | qoda | facepalms. |
| 18:59.04 | Shadow_7 | The hard parts I guess would be setting up users without the aid of an installer. |
| 18:59.31 | petn-randall | CheckDavid: I'm confused. Have you currently booted from HDD or from USB? And do you have an OS on your system? |
| 18:59.45 | CheckDavid | petn-randall: nothing in the HDD now |
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| 19:00.14 | petn-randall | CheckDavid: Why does the ISO say ubuntu 14.04 if you want to install Debian? Maybe that might be the main problem. |
| 19:00.17 | Shadow_7 | can't you just run the debian-installer from a live image? idk, don't do things that way |
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| 19:00.38 | CheckDavid | Wut.omg |
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| 19:01.11 | CheckDavid | Lol petn-randall I think that was my previous attempt at Linux. I thought unetbootin would kill that. |
| 19:01.42 | CheckDavid | Well. Then I have no iso on the USB :o |
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| 19:02.20 | CheckDavid | Apart from the Ubuntu one |
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| 19:02.52 | CheckDavid | OK. I'm very confused now. Where am.I booting from? I booted from the USB. |
| 19:02.59 | CheckDavid | But then it launches Debian |
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| 19:03.24 | CheckDavid | But the USB doesn't seem to have much Debian stuff in it. |
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| 19:03.47 | CheckDavid | So its launching from the USB and getting the rest from my HDD? |
| 19:03.51 | Shadow_7 | as long as you have a network connection it doesn't need much stuff |
| 19:04.21 | CheckDavid | Because booting from HDD only gives me a black screen with a flashing underscore at the top |
| 19:04.27 | CheckDavid | Blinking. |
| 19:05.13 | Shadow_7 | there's pxe boot that loads live images off the interwebs |
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| 19:05.34 | CheckDavid | I'm very confused I don't k ow what's happening. |
| 19:05.44 | Shadow_7 | and other means to boot .iso images on a usb drive. But blinking cursor is generally a can't get there from here sign |
| 19:05.47 | CheckDavid | In just know I tried to install Debian and it doesn't boot. |
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| 19:06.07 | Shadow_7 | Is it a UEFI system? |
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| 19:06.15 | CheckDavid | Then I tried to install again from the same USB and it booted instead of installing |
| 19:06.25 | CheckDavid | Not sure. How do I check? |
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| 19:06.52 | Shadow_7 | some hot key at boot... F12 ? spam it (aka microsoft and their ways) |
| 19:07.21 | Shadow_7 | should bring up some bios (or UEFI) config options |
| 19:08.14 | Shadow_7 | With some line at the top (or bottom) claiming their designation. Like a look at me, I'm awesome, even though I don't work right |
| 19:09.11 | Shadow_7 | could be esc, f1, f8, f10, space, or other variants depending on age and brand |
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| 19:20.51 | CheckDavid | Shadow_7: I'm.so confused right now lol |
| 19:21.11 | CheckDavid | After I know if its uefi what do.I do? |
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| 19:21.16 | Shadow_7 | do you have any bootable OS? |
| 19:22.51 | CheckDavid | I already explained the weird thing that's happening |
| 19:22.59 | CheckDavid | I installed on hdd |
| 19:23.05 | CheckDavid | But it boots from usb |
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| 19:23.14 | CheckDavid | How possible? |
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| 19:23.16 | edoardo | ext4lazyinit running since i've booted my raspberry (4 hours ago) |
| 19:23.19 | edoardo | is it normal? |
| 19:23.25 | gribouille | hi |
| 19:23.25 | CheckDavid | And doesn't boot from hdd |
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| 19:23.36 | CheckDavid | And USB doesn't seem to have Debian in there |
| 19:23.41 | Shadow_7 | is it usable after it boots? |
| 19:23.52 | CheckDavid | At least not Debian installed |
| 19:23.53 | edoardo | it's using my disk every second, respawns itself every second |
| 19:23.59 | CheckDavid | Shadow_7: Debian? Yes |
| 19:24.11 | Shadow_7 | CheckDavid: mount |
| 19:24.20 | gribouille | what do I have to do get the kernel recognize a hot plug hard drive? |
| 19:24.24 | Shadow_7 | CheckDavid: should list info about / and where it's mounted from |
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| 19:24.42 | CheckDavid | Mount what? The USB ? |
| 19:24.44 | Shadow_7 | edoardo: debian armel? |
| 19:25.08 | phaidros | CheckDavid: the command "mount" should give you insight what is mounted (from) where |
| 19:25.08 | edoardo | Shadow_7: yes |
| 19:25.12 | Shadow_7 | CheckDavid: on the cli (command line) type "mount" with no parameters and push enter |
| 19:25.29 | edoardo | the hdd is just a huge 2tb ext4 partition |
| 19:25.57 | Shadow_7 | edoardo: walwart powered? or usb powered? |
| 19:26.18 | edoardo | Shadow_7: wall plug |
| 19:26.24 | jelly-home | edoardo: it takes time to write all the metadata. ext4lazyinit will run its course and finish it, and then won't run again |
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| 19:26.34 | CheckDavid | Shadow_7: OK I got lot of data |
| 19:26.34 | qoda | edoardo: quick google search reveals the answer: http://www.thomas-krenn.com/en/wiki/Ext4_Filesystem#Lazy_Initialization |
| 19:26.37 | gribouille | what do I have to do get the kernel recognize a hot plug hard drive? |
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| 19:26.46 | edoardo | what happens if i shut down the raspberry? |
| 19:26.51 | CheckDavid | Not sure what to do with it. |
| 19:26.55 | nikio_ | mesg me about sources.list pleas |
| 19:27.02 | jelly-home | edoardo: it will start again on next reboot, most likely |
| 19:27.17 | edoardo | resume or start from the beginning? |
| 19:27.22 | jelly-home | well, not start again, but continue, hopefully |
| 19:27.22 | qoda | edoardo: basically: ext4lazyinit does things that one chose not to do at filesytsem creation time, but later |
| 19:27.31 | Shadow_7 | CheckDavid: there should be a " / " on one of the lines. What is the other info on that line? |
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| 19:28.34 | edoardo | perfect, so nothing to worry about |
| 19:28.39 | edoardo | thank you everyone |
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| 19:29.10 | CheckDavid | Shadow_7 https://i.imgur.com/FblNgco.jpg |
| 19:29.16 | CheckDavid | Confusing |
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| 19:29.48 | CheckDavid | I don't see a / |
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| 19:31.06 | Shadow_7 | I do... has a UUID and / way off center |
| 19:31.26 | Shadow_7 | CheckDavid: what partition do you think it's booted to? $ cat /proc/partitions |
| 19:31.49 | Shadow_7 | CheckDavid: and check it's UUID... $ blkid /dev/sda2 |
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| 19:33.06 | Shadow_7 | CheckDavid: basically whatever matches is what you're current booted to |
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| 19:34.25 | Dante93 | Hi |
| 19:34.33 | CheckDavid | Shadow_7: I don't have the knowledge to infer that :( |
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| 19:34.55 | CheckDavid | https://i.imgur.com/EQPkjoQ.jpg |
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| 19:36.13 | nikio_ | what tool does the very basic debian have to connect to my wifi router? |
| 19:36.22 | nikio_ | i have no GUI |
| 19:36.36 | Shadow_7 | CheckDavid: blkid shows the UUID. 83c01f28-..... unetboot can be a bit quirky, probably better off find some other means for anything simple. |
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| 19:36.57 | Shadow_7 | nikio_: iwconfig / ifconfig / dhclient |
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| 19:37.23 | nikio_ | Shadow_7, i dont have iwconfig |
| 19:37.26 | Shadow_7 | nikio_: and wpa_supplicant for things more recent than open or WEP |
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| 19:37.49 | nikio_ | Shadow_7, i dont think I have wpa_supplicant either |
| 19:37.52 | Shadow_7 | nikio_: then your distro doesn't have wireless-tools installed |
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| 19:38.05 | nikio_ | Shadow_7 my distro barely has anything |
| 19:38.07 | CheckDavid | Shadow_7: you suggesting I find another way to boot? |
| 19:38.09 | nikio_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:38.14 | CheckDavid | Or better. To install? |
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| 19:38.47 | Shadow_7 | CheckDavid: suggesting you find something that better speaks your lingo. plus unetboot may have a few quirks when it comes to debian |
| 19:39.14 | Shadow_7 | maybe start with ubuntu and work your way back to debian |
| 19:39.28 | CheckDavid | I see Shadow_7. Thanks |
| 19:39.56 | Shadow_7 | although booted to linux as you are, you could debootstrap from where you're at. But probably too complex as a starter offer. |
| 19:40.19 | CheckDavid | Shadow_7: maybe lol |
| 19:40.45 | CheckDavid | Can I unetbootin Debian on top of the Debian USB? |
| 19:40.52 | CheckDavid | Or do I have to do something before? |
| 19:41.12 | Shadow_7 | if your debian has network capabilities. You could chroot to any live image |
| 19:41.43 | CheckDavid | Hmmm. I wonder what chrooting any live image is. |
| 19:42.21 | Shadow_7 | a simple mount -o loop -t iso9660 image.iso /mount/point for the initiated. Plus chroot /mount/point /bin/bash |
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| 19:42.45 | Shadow_7 | and then you can run various tools in the iso image |
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| 19:43.57 | Shadow_7 | (like the installer and/or X) |
| 19:44.26 | Shadow_7 | But not really a starting point for anyone who's not the familiar with where they're at |
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| 19:48.36 | ngochai | Can someone please tell me why my kernel only see 7 partitions instead of all 9 in /dev/mmcblk0 ? http://pastebin.com/9nmTk8cj |
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| 19:51.01 | Shadow_7 | ngochai: based on which information? cat /proc/partitions |
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| 19:52.40 | ngochai | Shadow_7, dmesg shows: mmcblk0: p1 p2 < p5 p6 p7 >, cat /proc/partitions > http://pastebin.com/mE22Jv9F |
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| 19:53.51 | teraflops | ngochai: you have two logical partitions isn't it? |
| 19:55.12 | ngochai | teraflops, I have multiple logical partitions on my extended partition |
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| 19:56.33 | teraflops | ngochai: oh I see after the fat32 one |
| 19:56.43 | ngochai | this is how I create the partions: http://pastebin.com/ntDXdm0W |
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| 19:59.08 | teraflops | ngochai: just wondering why dont you do manually, do you have a bunch of sdcards like 20 or 20? |
| 19:59.11 | teraflops | 30? |
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| 20:00.23 | ngochai | teraflops, yes, I need to make plenty of them |
| 20:00.55 | teraflops | oh I see, uhm did you tried almos one by hand with the same fdisk options as in the script? |
| 20:01.03 | teraflops | almost* |
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| 20:01.32 | ngochai | teraflops, will it make any difference? |
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| 20:01.50 | teraflops | may be, idn |
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| 20:02.36 | teraflops | just for makin sure thats not related to some scape sequence, space or mistake, anyway just wondering |
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| 20:02.41 | ngochai | all the partitions on the sdcard show up in other system |
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| 20:03.37 | teraflops | ngochai: uhm but not on the runnig system? is that raspbian or whatever similar? |
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| 20:04.04 | ngochai | teraflops, this is hummmingboard, running debian armhf |
| 20:04.25 | ngochai | other system is arch linux x64 |
| 20:05.16 | teraflops | ngochai: ok, ngochai sincerely i do not run raspbian with more than 3 primary partition on the sdcard anyway it sounds weird |
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| 20:05.51 | ngochai | teraflops, I only have 2 primary |
| 20:05.53 | n-iCe | is there any table to compare the different DE? memory, ram, etc? |
| 20:06.06 | teraflops | and 7 logical xD |
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| 20:07.51 | ngochai | teraflops, the weird thing is if I plug that sdcard in a USB reader and plug that to the system, the kernel shows all 9 partitions |
| 20:07.52 | edoardo | hello |
| 20:07.52 | teraflops | ngochai: as i said just wondering may be trying to change the partition scheme to 3 primary and one extended with less logical partitions inside ... |
| 20:08.01 | edoardo | so my hdd is mounted but i can't access it unless i'm in root |
| 20:08.01 | n-iCe | what would you guys say is the lighter desktop for Debian, officially supported. |
| 20:08.06 | edoardo | the mount folder looks like this |
| 20:08.06 | edoardo | drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 4096 ott 29 20:10 hdd |
| 20:08.16 | edoardo | i tried chmodding it to 777 |
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| 20:08.26 | teraflops | yeah ngochai may be related to te debian armhf itself |
| 20:08.36 | edoardo | and chmodding it to pi, but after a reboot everything goes back to this status |
| 20:08.54 | edoardo | here's the fstab entry |
| 20:08.55 | edoardo | /dev/sda1 /media/hdd ext4 auto,nouser,exec,rw,async,atime 0 3 |
| 20:10.04 | Sysaxed | I was using blueman to create a serial port for a long time, everything was great. Well, yeah, I had to add myself to dialout group to be able to talk with /dev/rfcomm0 under non root user. However, today it just stopped working. I am still in dialout group, but things are working only under the root user. What's wrong? What can I check? |
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| 20:10.43 | nikio_ | hey im looking for the right install |
| 20:10.45 | teraflops | edoardo: a pi with an hdd? you mean it is connected to one of the usb ports? |
| 20:10.50 | edoardo | teraflops: yes |
| 20:10.58 | jelly-home | edoardo: did you chmod _after_ mounting? |
| 20:11.22 | edoardo | jelly-home: let me try |
| 20:11.23 | nikio_ | i need something that will install the correct driver for my intel 3160 wireless card |
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| 20:11.49 | nikio_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:11.57 | nikio_ | i tried this but the kernel is too old |
| 20:12.02 | nikio_ | ithas to be 3.11 or higher |
| 20:12.24 | edoardo | i don't know why, but the folder is chmodded differently upon reboot |
| 20:12.28 | teraflops | btw maynard on a pi is a dream |
| 20:12.37 | Sysaxed | 'groups' says that I'm still in the dialout group, ls -la /dev/rfcomm0 says crw-rw---- 1 root dialout 216, 0 Nov 3 21:50 /dev/rfcomm0 |
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| 20:13.40 | hatter_ | I just forgot to randomise the GUID on an mdadm rebuild with a new disk, what are the consequences of this ? |
| 20:14.33 | valdyn | hatter_: you mean uuid ? |
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| 20:15.01 | teraflops | edoardo: why don you use just rw defaults? |
| 20:15.03 | hatter_ | valdyn, sgdisk -G /dev/sdx |
| 20:15.21 | hatter_ | set a new GUID on cloned partition table on new disk |
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| 20:15.37 | hatter_ | GUID is UUID isn't it ? |
| 20:16.33 | qman__ | hatter_: I have never done that, never had a problem, but I didn't clone any disks either |
| 20:16.46 | hatter_ | just cloning partition table |
| 20:17.06 | qman__ | My process is new disk, new partition table, define partitions, add to array |
| 20:17.16 | hatter_ | like this : sgdisk -R /dev/sdx /dev/sdy where sdy is new disk |
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| 20:17.48 | hatter_ | making a new partition table from scratch would make new UUID |
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| 20:26.58 | lijn | since both are being maintained, I am unsure whether to use libav or the original ffmpeg (the newest version of which is in unstable) |
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| 20:27.23 | n-iCe | anyone using mate? |
| 20:27.43 | Shadow_7 | libav / avconv seems faster to me |
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| 20:31.22 | lijn | Shadow_7: I am unsure since the newest stable of ffmpeg is from October last month while the newest stable libav is from January... Do you know of serious tests that would suggest libav over ffmpeg for now? |
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| 20:32.17 | Shadow_7 | lijn: depends on your needs. avconv is still a fairly recent fork of ffmpeg. If you have new gear and new codecs, ffmpeg might be faster to please |
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| 20:32.51 | Shadow_7 | lijn: but for converting my old VHS tapes to webm, avconv smokes what used to be ffmpeg |
| 20:33.10 | Shadow_7 | lijn: on my vintage 1.9GHz dual core |
| 20:33.18 | lijn | Shadow_7: I am just going to rip a DVD with no copy protection whatsoever |
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| 20:33.42 | RoyK | Shadow_7: what sort of vintage? |
| 20:33.58 | Shadow_7 | circa 2007... amd sempron style |
| 20:34.14 | RoyK | that's !vintage ;) |
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| 20:34.39 | Shadow_7 | it is my "newest" machine. Got an old xp laptop. 32 bit, single core, 512MB ram |
| 20:35.02 | teraflops | hey a core 2 duo for example it is still a good machine |
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| 20:36.05 | Shadow_7 | I have a pentium II in corner, 300MHz |
| 20:36.10 | RoyK | teraflops: it is, given you have some memory inside |
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| 20:36.21 | RoyK | Shadow_7: that's more vintage ;) |
| 20:36.29 | teraflops | heh |
| 20:36.30 | RoyK | Shadow_7: guess it's about the speed of a rpi |
| 20:36.48 | brentaarnold | IYO, what is the best solution for creating a system image of my Debian 7.7 install? And, also, does a system image include all currently installed programs and their configurations? Is it a bootable copy of my current system? |
| 20:36.55 | Shadow_7 | sadly better than any "work" machine that I've been paid to write code on "still". |
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| 20:37.05 | lijn | Shadow_7: what do you use as libav's core package for dependency resolution? libav-tools? |
| 20:37.07 | teraflops | but not the power compumtion i believe |
| 20:37.46 | Shadow_7 | brentaarnold: if you're not currently running said install, rsync |
| 20:38.04 | brentaarnold | Shadow_7: I am :( |
| 20:38.20 | Shadow_7 | teraflops: yeah, I've about had it for machines that double as space heaters. |
| 20:38.25 | RoyK | http://www.southampton.ac.uk/~sjc/raspberrypi/ |
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| 20:39.07 | Shadow_7 | When I got my pi, I spent about 24 hours with my desktop off for the first time in a long time. It got cold |
| 20:39.31 | Shadow_7 | Bear in mind that it was summer in Texas at the time |
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| 20:40.32 | nezZario | I'm in dependency hell here, I'm not sure what I've broken |
| 20:40.45 | mic_e | so, are there any guides to set up lukssuspend with an encrypted home folder on debian? I don't really need fancy graphical stuff or a login manager, but the suspend + wakeup should work while my window manager is running... |
| 20:40.54 | teraflops | nezZario: ^ |
| 20:41.06 | mtn | !tell nezZario about ask |
| 20:41.18 | nezZario | I'm pastebinning it, I jumped the gun there -- |
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| 20:42.02 | mic_e | brentaarnold: I usually just take the entire blockdev and gzip it to some netcat destination.. |
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| 20:42.32 | lijn | is there any official unstable Debian live image that features recent versions of ffmpeg or libav? |
| 20:42.57 | mic_e | most modern filesystems are resilient enough to do this from the running system, without breaking anything |
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| 20:43.13 | nezZario | OK, basically, apt is broken.. I can't install anything, I'm not sure what's going on here: http://pastie.org/private/egdrtvg7i8ansa2ek9za |
| 20:43.43 | nezZario | I've never seen this before.. I think this server is a vmware server, not sure if that has to do with anything..But i'm pretty lost, that's all I have, pretty much |
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| 20:43.57 | mtn | !tell nezZario about ubuntu |
| 20:44.04 | Shadow_7 | nezZario: if you have internets. apt-get install dselect && dpkg --clear-avail && dselect update |
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| 20:44.25 | abrotman | Shadow_7: wrong channel, go with him to #ubuntu please |
| 20:44.50 | nikio_ | is it possible to access a windows partitiion from debian? |
| 20:44.52 | Shadow_7 | I don't run ubuntu, but I need to run that after a debootstrap install on occassion |
| 20:44.56 | nikio_ | place a file there? |
| 20:45.27 | abrotman | nikio_: yes |
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| 20:45.40 | abrotman | Shadow_7: no one wants to use dselect .. |
| 20:45.42 | abrotman | :) |
| 20:45.51 | lijn | nikio_: check ntfs-3g |
| 20:46.03 | Shadow_7 | abrotman: I do. For the available file. And it merges multiple sources better imo |
| 20:46.07 | abrotman | dpkg: tell nikio_ about ntfs-3g |
| 20:46.07 | nikio_ | lijn ok |
| 20:46.10 | nikio_ | coooll |
| 20:46.20 | abrotman | Shadow_7: I think you're stuck in 2004, but okay:) |
| 20:46.44 | abrotman | Shadow_7: you sohuld probably try aptitude, it's probably more capable than you remember |
| 20:46.48 | Shadow_7 | abrotman: sounds about right. as that's the rough vintage of most of my gear |
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| 20:47.03 | abrotman | Shadow_7: You're the person still using PPros eh? :) |
| 20:47.17 | lijn | abrotman: I just switched back from aptitude to apt-get amid recommendations of senior people in this channel :-) |
| 20:47.21 | nezZario | fwiw i had no idea this server was ubuntu -- sorry :) |
| 20:47.32 | nezZario | i just knew it had apt on there and assumed it was debian because I always use debian |
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| 20:47.52 | abrotman | lijn: depends on the purpose, apt-get has its place, I'd recommend aptitude for day to day use |
| 20:48.04 | Shadow_7 | abrotman: since dpkg -l does NOT load available, dselect update is needed to use : dpkg-query --load-avaiil -l '*package*' |
| 20:48.08 | abrotman | (this also depends which version of Debian youre running) |
| 20:48.27 | Shadow_7 | it' |
| 20:48.29 | Shadow_7 | it |
| 20:48.32 | abrotman | it |
| 20:48.47 | Shadow_7 | it's more informative |
| 20:48.50 | lijn | abrotman: I use it for everything but package management (installation, upgrdae, removal, etc) and aptitude for everything else (aptitude search ~dtest, etc.) |
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| 20:49.01 | Shadow_7 | stupid keyboard and large enter key |
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| 20:49.17 | RoyK | nezZario: see pm, please |
| 20:49.18 | abrotman | lijn: backward of how I do it .. but it's your system |
| 20:49.30 | abrotman | nezZario: good luck in #ubuntu, thank you |
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| 20:49.58 | lijn | abrotman: you use apt-get over aptitude for searching in descriptions, etc.? and aptitude for installations? |
| 20:50.33 | abrotman | lijn: generally, yes .. I find 'apt-cache search term' easier than 'aptitude search '~dterm'' |
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| 20:51.07 | Shadow_7 | Or is there an easier way to find packages based on partial names (or names without version numbers)? |
| 20:51.14 | qaqaqa | so ... i used a Live Linux USB Creator (UUI) to create a bootable usb stick with debian-live-7.6.0-amd64-standard. then i booted from this stick, and installed debian on another usb stick. the installation apparently completed successfully, but the new usb stick does not boot at all. where did i go wrong? |
| 20:51.25 | abrotman | lijn: however, I will use 'aptitude search foo' instead of `apt-cache --names-only search foo' |
| 20:51.34 | Shadow_7 | for packages that are NOT currently installed |
| 20:52.08 | abrotman | Shadow_7: 'aptitude search foo' will match a package named foobar or foobaz or boofoo |
| 20:52.23 | abrotman | If I understand your question |
| 20:52.38 | Shadow_7 | and without using aptitude that is not installed by default in a debootstrap install |
| 20:52.54 | abrotman | Shadow_7: apt-cache --names-only search foo |
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| 20:53.11 | nikio_ | debian installs relatively long doesnt it |
| 20:53.21 | nikio_ | cd 1 |
| 20:53.22 | abrotman | long? |
| 20:53.25 | abrotman | oh, use the netinst |
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| 20:53.59 | abrotman | Shadow_7: not sure if the dctrl-tools are installed by debootstrap, but that might be closer to what you're used to |
| 20:54.03 | nikio_ | abrotman, cant no internet ;] i have to set it up first.. i am set on making ituse the wifi |
| 20:54.06 | nikio_ | and not rj45 |
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| 20:54.17 | abrotman | netinst supports wifi |
| 20:54.23 | abrotman | perhaps you're thinking of the bizcard |
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| 20:54.56 | Shadow_7 | abrotman: for the record "apt-cache --names-only search '*libpang*dev*'" == regex fail && dpkg-query --load-avail -l '*libpang*dev*' == success |
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| 20:55.20 | abrotman | Shadow_7: apt-cache --names-only search libpang | grep -- -dev |
| 20:55.27 | abrotman | Shadow_7: It's not that hard :) |
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| 20:55.52 | somiaj | Shadow_7: aptitude search is far more sophisicated, maybe look in to that. |
| 20:56.02 | abrotman | somiaj: "but not in debootstrap base" |
| 20:56.11 | abrotman | and yes, it is far more sophisticated. |
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| 20:56.15 | Shadow_7 | abrotman: and wildcards? lib*gtk |
| 20:56.23 | abrotman | Shadow_7: grep understands wildcards .. |
| 20:56.25 | somiaj | abrotman: ahh I missed that part. Didn't realize aptitude wasn't in debootstrap base. |
| 20:56.33 | Shadow_7 | abrotman: or do I have to grep in a cascading style |
| 20:56.35 | abrotman | somiaj: It can be, but not in his I gather |
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| 20:56.58 | abrotman | Shadow_7: apt-cache --names-only search gtk | egrep "^lib" ? |
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| 20:57.35 | abrotman | Shadow_7: again, the dctrl things might be more what you're looking for |
| 20:57.53 | abrotman | and also, as somiaj pointed out, the aptitude search is pretty darn good |
| 20:57.59 | Shadow_7 | and if your keyboard is misconfigure for | with british non-sense? |
| 20:58.04 | abrotman | http://aptitude.alioth.debian.org/doc/en/ch02s04s05.html |
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| 20:58.53 | Shadow_7 | aka raspbian default for example. I just recall the olden irc days when aptitude was highly discouraged as it was less up to date than apt |
| 20:59.04 | abrotman | in 2005, yes |
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| 21:09.54 | LunaLovegood | My debian has installed a systemd and now editing /etc/inittab doesn't do anything. How do I disable getty on tty1 (but not tty2-6) with systemd? |
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| 21:14.54 | wojtas | helow,i need a msgbox like zenity info box but whitout ok buuton, can smb help me; i can't find any thing like that |
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| 21:16.55 | CheckDavid | what happened to disk utility in Debian? |
| 21:17.48 | mtn | CheckDavid: you mean gnome-disk-utility? it is still there. |
| 21:17.48 | Uber-Ich | disk utility? |
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| 21:18.47 | abrotman | LunaLovegood: you may get more help in #debian-systemd on irc.oftc.net |
| 21:18.53 | CheckDavid | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:19.09 | CheckDavid | BY the way, is thre some app that does DD to burn isos? |
| 21:19.22 | CheckDavid | "burn" to usb |
| 21:19.23 | mtn | CheckDavid: usually the menu is searchable. search for disks |
| 21:19.26 | stakewinner00 | CheckDavid: YUMI?¿? |
| 21:20.29 | CheckDavid | Important Note: YUMI was intended to be used to try to run various "LIVE Linux" Operating Systems from USB. Installing Linux from the YUMI created USB Drive to a Hard Drive is not officially supported. If the installer portion of any Live Linux distro does work, consider it a bonus. lol stakewinner00 |
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| 21:21.27 | stakewinner00 | CheckDavid: Sometime I used YUMI and seems to work fine xD |
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| 21:22.15 | CheckDavid | I dont know how to DD, feeling lazy to learn how to do it on the command line lol |
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| 21:22.22 | CheckDavid | tried like 4 methods to isntall already |
| 21:22.38 | CheckDavid | is frustrated |
| 21:22.54 | mtn | CheckDavid: usb instructions, including dd: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en |
| 21:22.59 | stakewinner00 | CheckDavid: The last time that I installed a debian system I used dd xD |
| 21:23.11 | mtn | CheckDavid: now you can use cp! |
| 21:23.15 | stakewinner00 | Unetbootin don't seems to work well... |
| 21:23.26 | nikio_ | waiting for headers ==.= |
| 21:23.38 | nikio_ | stakewinner00, dont use that shit |
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| 21:23.42 | nikio_ | use win32diskimager |
| 21:23.51 | nikio_ | and just put any iso on the sd card |
| 21:23.52 | nikio_ | or usb |
| 21:23.54 | nikio_ | its very easy |
| 21:23.57 | nikio_ | and clean |
| 21:24.05 | stakewinner00 | nikio_: I know xD But in the past I used that software. |
| 21:24.09 | mtn | !tell nikio_ about enter |
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| 21:27.12 | diaulus | hi |
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| 21:30.21 | nikio_deb | http://pastie.org/9694152 |
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| 21:30.38 | nikio_deb | is there anything wrong with this sources.list? |
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| 21:31.48 | eeerre | i'm able to boot live linux distributions from USB, but whenever i *install* a distribution to a USB drive, i'm not able to boot it. any suggestions as to what i'm doing wrong? |
| 21:32.11 | mtn | eeerre: where are you installing grub? |
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| 21:32.34 | CheckDavid | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:32.38 | eeerre | mtn: on the usb drive |
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| 21:32.57 | mtn | eeerre: yes, but where? sdb1 or sdb....? |
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| 21:33.41 | eeerre | mtn: oh. i'm not sure. i can't recall that i had any options |
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| 21:34.01 | mtn | eeerre: it needs to be to the drive, not to a partition |
| 21:34.21 | mtn | eeerre: see if you can fix it: https://wiki.debian.org/GrubRecover |
| 21:35.18 | CheckDavid | there should be an android app to install linux on a pc |
| 21:35.32 | CheckDavid | it would emulate a flash drive |
| 21:35.33 | CheckDavid | and done |
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| 21:35.41 | CheckDavid | Tell me this is not just a dream |
| 21:35.42 | CheckDavid | lol |
| 21:35.49 | mtn | sounds like a nightmare |
| 21:35.51 | gribouille | hi |
| 21:36.05 | CheckDavid | What? A nightmare? How so? |
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| 21:36.39 | CheckDavid | So many steps you gave me mtn lol. Im already confused. |
| 21:36.40 | gribouille | I'm trying to configure the network under the wheezy livecd, but it doesn't work |
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| 21:37.03 | somiaj | gribouille: does your wifi card require non-free firmware? |
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| 21:37.19 | gribouille | somiaj, it's ethernet |
| 21:37.21 | mtn | CheckDavid: confused on how to run the dd command? |
| 21:38.17 | somiaj | gribouille: sometimes eithernet cards require firmware. 'dmesg | grep firmware' any errors about mising firmware. |
| 21:38.25 | teraflops | gribouille: what nic exactly |
| 21:39.21 | eeerre | mtn during installation i hit "Yes" at this point. wouldn't this ensure that grub is installed to the drive where it is supposed to be? https://i.imgur.com/UOR7dNH.png |
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| 21:40.03 | mtn | eeerre: yes, it should. how many hard drives do you have in this computer? |
| 21:40.13 | teraflops | gribouille: may be you need one of that isos http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ |
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| 21:40.28 | marioxcc | hello |
| 21:40.46 | CheckDavid | yes mtn |
| 21:40.53 | eeerre | mtn: zero. i have only the usb drive i'm installing from and the usb drive that i'm installing to |
| 21:40.56 | marioxcc | I'm looking for a free as in freedom file storage server software with web interface |
| 21:41.17 | mtn | eeerre: it appears it is going to install it to a hard drive, so that may not be the option you want. |
| 21:41.18 | marioxcc | could you guys suggest one such software for GNU/Linux? |
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| 21:41.33 | mtn | eeerre: so, no hard drives at all? |
| 21:41.37 | gribouille | teraflops, let me see |
| 21:41.42 | eeerre | mtn correct |
| 21:41.44 | mtn | CheckDavid: what about the dd command has you stumped? |
| 21:42.02 | mtn | eeerre: they, yes, it should work. I think ;) |
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| 21:42.04 | CheckDavid | mtn: i cant find the letter of my sd |
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| 21:42.52 | eeerre | mtn: yeah but it doesn't. the usb drives with the newly installed distribution simply doesn't boot. i've drived several types of usb sticks |
| 21:42.55 | mtn | CheckDavid: why not? what is the output of the command you used to find it? paste to http://paste.debian.net |
| 21:43.17 | mtn | eeerre: did you try doing the repair as I suggested? |
| 21:43.18 | teraflops | gribouille: for example http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 21:43.37 | eeerre | mtn i'll try thanks |
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| 21:44.38 | CheckDavid | too big mtn http://paste.debian.net/130145/ |
| 21:45.25 | mtn | CheckDavid: in a terminal, as root: fdisk -l |
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| 21:47.10 | CheckDavid | http://paste.debian.net/130146/ |
| 21:47.33 | mtn | CheckDavid: your usb stick no plugged in? |
| 21:47.35 | mtn | no/not |
| 21:47.48 | CheckDavid | ahh |
| 21:47.51 | CheckDavid | i ejected it |
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| 21:47.57 | CheckDavid | or something, see im CONFUSED! |
| 21:48.07 | mtn | CheckDavid: one step at a time ;) |
| 21:48.12 | CheckDavid | it said somewhere it should be unmounted |
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| 21:48.19 | CheckDavid | so i did that not sure :( |
| 21:48.27 | gribouille | somiaj, my nic is Intel Corporation I350 Gigabit Network Connection |
| 21:48.27 | marioxcc | Hello, could somebody please suggest a file server software with a web interface? |
| 21:48.31 | mtn | CheckDavid: just plug it in and run the commmand |
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| 21:49.28 | CheckDavid | http://paste.debian.net/130147/ mtn |
| 21:49.47 | mtn | CheckDavid: sdb it is |
| 21:49.52 | CheckDavid | i see |
| 21:49.59 | somiaj | gribouille: does it even show up, I am unsure on how new of a card that is, could it be that it isn't supported in the wheezy 3.2 kernel? |
| 21:50.05 | CheckDavid | if this doesnt work i will quit because it will burn my only way to boot this pc |
| 21:50.07 | CheckDavid | lol |
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| 21:50.19 | teraflops | marioxcc: only for stogare or with more functionalities as i.e owncloud |
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| 21:51.06 | CheckDavid | so now i run cp debian.iso /dev/sdb |
| 21:51.07 | CheckDavid | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:51.41 | teraflops | mtn: because a simple ftp server has web interface since the majority of the web borwsers has built in ftp client support |
| 21:51.47 | teraflops | i mean marioxcc |
| 21:51.49 | mtn | CheckDavid: yes, and then sync after it returns to a prompt. |
| 21:52.05 | CheckDavid | mtn: i need to change the name and directory on there i guess |
| 21:52.10 | gribouille | somiaj, yes it is |
| 21:52.12 | mtn | CheckDavid: except the name of the file is most likely not debian.iso |
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| 21:52.27 | gribouille | somiaj, what is the standard way to configure the network? |
| 21:52.43 | CheckDavid | mtn: i see |
| 21:52.52 | marioxcc | teraflops: something basic is fine, as long as it support file uploading |
| 21:52.59 | marioxcc | and is free as in freedom software |
| 21:53.17 | CheckDavid | mtn: the tutorial doesnt say the iso should be in the home directory either |
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| 21:53.32 | somiaj | gribouille: various ways, I prefer the interfaces file, others like network manager, and even others like to use ip directally |
| 21:53.48 | mtn | CheckDavid: doesn't matter where it is if you give it the correct path. if you are in the same folder when running the command, you don't need a path |
| 21:54.13 | CheckDavid | i see |
| 21:54.16 | teraflops | marioxcc: ftp as i said may be so simple, or owncloud, it is pretty easy to setup nad has nice functionalities for sharing uploading files |
| 21:54.18 | CheckDavid | Thats all obvious for pros |
| 21:54.26 | CheckDavid | not for nubz lyke me :( |
| 21:54.52 | marioxcc | teraflops: ftp is not an option, it has to have a web interface |
| 21:55.06 | gribouille | somiaj, I also use the interfaces file. what do I have to do to get the kernel to update the network settings when the interfaces file is changed? |
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| 21:55.32 | teraflops | marioxcc: well yo can access to an ftp with a web browser so tecnically it has heh |
| 21:55.34 | marioxcc | teraflops: Though I'm checking owncloud, it seems to be what I need. Thanks you. |
| 21:55.38 | CheckDavid | mtn: how do i know if it worked? |
| 21:55.50 | teraflops | anyway ftp is not a good idea almost i think so |
| 21:55.54 | marioxcc | teraflops: no, no really. Web isn't defined by whether you can access it by a browser. |
| 21:56.03 | mtn | CheckDavid: remove the stick, plut it back in and look at the files it has. |
| 21:56.04 | teraflops | marioxcc: np cheers |
| 21:56.17 | CheckDavid | mtn: how do i know its not writing to it anymore? |
| 21:56.30 | mtn | CheckDavid: when it comes back to a prompt. |
| 21:56.38 | CheckDavid | mtn: then it was instant |
| 21:56.38 | somiaj | gribouille: ifup/ifdown are the scripts that use that. so 'ifdown eth0' then 'ifup eth0' you may have to stop networkmanager or wicd or anyother tool that is activally trying to control the network first too |
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| 21:56.46 | mtn | CheckDavid: and the stick light stops blinking |
| 21:56.51 | CheckDavid | mtn: how are 400 mbs of data isntant? |
| 21:56.55 | CheckDavid | ah |
| 21:57.13 | mtn | CheckDavid: no idea, if you think it is done, plug it back in and see if it has linux files on it. |
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| 21:57.33 | mtn | CheckDavid: did you run sync, too? |
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| 21:58.04 | gribouille | somiaj, formerly, I used "service networking restart". does it work too? |
| 21:58.07 | nikio_ | the wifi on debian disconnects quite often compared to my windows 7 laptop |
| 21:58.11 | nikio_ | why o0 |
| 21:58.16 | nikio_ | ? |
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| 21:58.19 | CheckDavid | mtn: yes |
| 21:58.27 | mtn | CheckDavid: ok |
| 21:58.46 | CheckDavid | will try now |
| 21:59.05 | teraflops | gribouille: uhm that was deprecated time ago |
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| 22:01.08 | gribouille | teraflops, isn't there a command to restart networking? |
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| 22:01.47 | teraflops | just ifdown eth0 && ifup eth0 |
| 22:01.57 | teraflops | change eth0 for your device |
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| 22:03.46 | nox_debian | hi |
| 22:04.13 | skint2 | i installed Debian Wheezy on a very old Pentium 3 laptop. I have a Thomson SpeedTouch 110g Wireless PC Card but i do not know how to make it work |
| 22:04.28 | marioxcc | teraflops: do you know of something simpler than owncloud? |
| 22:04.47 | teraflops | marioxcc: simpler in what way? |
| 22:05.06 | marioxcc | teraflops: this software has a lot of baggage, it seems. I think that even a simple HTML web page with an âuploadâ buttom would do. |
| 22:05.41 | teraflops | oh yes indeed if you ar looking for something lightweight |
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| 22:06.04 | skint2 | can anyone help, please? |
| 22:06.19 | acz32 | owncloud hosts data on your own machines right? |
| 22:06.20 | teraflops | marioxcc: sorry I think i went out of ideas |
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| 22:06.23 | nox_debian | skint2, too general |
| 22:06.35 | acz32 | why not just use ssh and rsync |
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| 22:07.04 | marioxcc | acz32: I need a web interface |
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| 22:07.07 | skint2 | nox_debian, sorry? what do you mean¿ |
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| 22:07.55 | acz32 | marioxcc: does it have to be web? because gigolo is an easy way to drag and drop graphically |
| 22:08.04 | teraflops | marioxcc: just create a form with a POST on your favourite web server |
| 22:08.26 | marioxcc | acz32: yes, it has to |
| 22:08.38 | marioxcc | teraflops: yes, I think that I will do that, though I know next to nothing about HTML |
| 22:08.40 | teraflops | uhm acz32 what is that gigolo stuff? |
| 22:09.57 | acz32 | teraflops: connects to remote servers graphically, like connection via ssh using your file manager |
| 22:10.29 | teraflops | sounds simple ill look onto it thanks acz32 |
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| 22:10.45 | Debian-new | hello, how can I stop xorg? |
| 22:10.55 | Debian-new | /etc/init.d/gdm stop does not work |
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| 22:11.20 | teraflops | acz32: ah but it is not a web interface |
| 22:11.35 | acz32 | teraflops: no, it's not web interface |
| 22:11.38 | teraflops | ok |
| 22:12.32 | acz32 | what's with the web interface requirement you guys have? |
| 22:12.57 | teraflops | nor me acz32 I prefer the cli :P |
| 22:12.58 | nox_debian | i don't remember how to copy from the shell |
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| 22:13.28 | Shadow_7 | nox_debian: via temp file? |
| 22:13.51 | nox_debian | Shadow_7, to copy the text |
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| 22:14.25 | skint2 | nox_debian, sorry? |
| 22:14.32 | Shadow_7 | nox_debian: from or to? |
| 22:15.05 | nox_debian | from... i need both to copy from a terminal and in a terminal... i tried to click the central button of the mouse... |
| 22:15.06 | Shadow_7 | nox_debian: middle mouse button does wonders in an xterm |
| 22:15.17 | nox_debian | i tryied |
| 22:15.20 | Shadow_7 | for past anyway |
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| 22:15.36 | teraflops | nox_debian: from tty instal gprm form virtual console use the mouse |
| 22:15.41 | teraflops | gpm* |
| 22:15.55 | nox_debian | gpm rocks and that's one |
| 22:15.56 | Shadow_7 | for from I tend to use COMMAND 2>&1 | tee tempfile.txt && bluefish tempfile.txt |
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| 22:16.16 | nox_debian | but now i'm on blackbox and i've already have the mouse |
| 22:17.09 | teraflops | nox_debian: then be sure the mouse buttons do what you think they do |
| 22:17.27 | nox_debian | i did it... control-c and central button to paste |
| 22:17.35 | teraflops | ;) |
| 22:17.49 | nox_debian | the same without X i think |
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| 22:18.39 | Shadow_7 | nox_debian: shift + cntrl + V for paste (in gnome anyway / old gnome) |
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| 22:19.02 | nox_debian | another issue...sometimes i want to come back in blackbox after i do ctrl+f1 and i'm stuck in the terminal tty |
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| 22:19.30 | vook | I've got a weird issue. I have three identical systems all using the same repos - all jessie. On two of the three, I was able to install libgcrypt11, but on the third, it isn't showing up. |
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| 22:19.51 | marioxcc | vook: do "apt-get update" or equivalent |
| 22:19.58 | vook | yes, that's not it |
| 22:20.08 | marioxcc | ok |
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| 22:21.18 | vook | ah, they've become newly obsolete in the last three days. Any way I can retain these obsolete packages? |
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| 22:24.02 | skint2 | nox_debian, sorry? |
| 22:24.28 | OwlG | Any live build gurus here? |
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| 22:24.49 | nox_debian | skint2, you're working in a X environment with mous and stuff, then you go to the terminal doing ctrl+F1 how can you go back to the X ? |
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| 22:25.30 | vook | ctrl-alt-f7 |
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| 22:25.40 | vook | (usually) |
| 22:25.41 | nox_debian | vook, are you sure? |
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| 22:25.50 | vook | sometimes it's f8 or f9 |
| 22:25.53 | vook | yes, I'm sure |
| 22:26.00 | nox_debian | or i'll get stuck |
| 22:26.04 | nice | hello, just installed debian netinstall, installed mate, lightdm, but all looks big like no video drivers were installed, any idea? |
| 22:26.09 | skint2 | what does that have to do with my question regarding the Thomson SpeedTouch 110g? |
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| 22:26.38 | skint2 | nox_debian, what does that have to do with my question regarding the Thomson SpeedTouch 110g? |
| 22:26.54 | nox_debian | ? |
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| 22:28.06 | nox_debian | skint2, ah sorry install the right driver then |
| 22:29.06 | skint2 | nox_debian, what driver? how? |
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| 22:32.57 | jhutchins_wk | nice: dmesg might say what isn't working, or /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 22:34.29 | jhutchins_wk | It's usually Ctrl-Alt-Fx from X, Alt-Fx from console. |
| 22:34.42 | nox_debian | skint2, http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1475908 closest |
| 22:35.43 | skint2 | nox_debian, that is for ubuntu, in french and utterly outdated |
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| 22:36.11 | nice | jhutchins_wk: http://pastebin.com/5UqFcCA4 |
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| 22:37.15 | nice | jhutchins_wk: sorry, http://pastebin.com/5UqFcCA4 |
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| 22:37.57 | Disconsented | I am unable to delete a folder due to "Device or resource busy". According to this I can check what is open with http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/11238/how-to-get-over-device-or-resource-busy however the command returns nothing |
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| 22:38.07 | Disconsented | I am running Debian 7, Ideas? |
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| 22:39.38 | Shadow_7 | what are you trying to delete? certain services use certain things. stopping those things can enable it |
| 22:39.52 | Disconsented | A directory "/var/www/clients/client0/web1/log" |
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| 22:40.30 | Disconsented | Which is empty according to filezill but df -h is reporting "/dev/disk/by-label/DOROOT 20G 4.5G 15G 24% /var/www/clients/client0/web1/log" |
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| 22:41.11 | Shadow_7 | Disconsented: so probably used by apache |
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| 22:41.38 | Disconsented | stopped apache2 and nope |
| 22:41.42 | Disconsented | same error |
| 22:41.44 | Shadow_7 | Disconsented: lsof and fuser can help id things that have that in use |
| 22:42.43 | Shadow_7 | Disconsented: it could also be a kernel modules that has it in use. modprobe -r and other means to free it |
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| 22:44.23 | Disconsented | ahh I got it now, fuser reported that bash was using it |
| 22:44.28 | Shadow_7 | Disconsented: most times to reboot or boot something else to remove it. |
| 22:44.35 | Shadow_7 | faster to... |
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| 22:44.52 | Shadow_7 | Disconsented: so probably cd'd into that location |
| 22:45.07 | Disconsented | I tried a reboot yesterday and that didnt seem to solve anything |
| 22:45.12 | gribouille | how can I know if X support XTEST? |
| 22:45.42 | Disconsented | Hmm actualy scratch that |
| 22:45.52 | Disconsented | still getting that error |
| 22:46.00 | Disconsented | Ill try modprobe -r now |
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| 22:47.51 | Disconsented | modprobe: "FATAL: Module clients not found." |
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| 22:50.42 | jhutchins_wk | Disconsented: My guess would be that there is a shell that has CD'ed to that directory. Find the shell and kill it. |
| 22:50.50 | jhutchins_wk | Disconsented: ps ax | grep bash |
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| 22:53.26 | hesperaux | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:53.26 | hesperaux | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:55.38 | nikio_ | is anyone here versed in samba? |
| 22:55.44 | skint2 | This question is for Debian developers: is the Thomson SpeedTouch 110g Wireless PC Card supported by Wheezy??? |
| 22:56.02 | hesperaux | nikio_, versed? I don't know. I use it all the time |
| 22:56.39 | illy | wich of the following can i disable on debian startup? acpid atd binfmt-support console-setup dbus kbd keyboard-setup kmod lvm2 mason mdam mdam-raid ntop procps psad samhain saned udev |
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| 22:56.50 | illy | runing a vps |
| 22:56.57 | jhutchins_wk | skint2: If it's for the developers, why are you asking here instead of the developer mailing list? |
| 22:57.09 | nikio_ | hesperaux, http://superuser.com/questions/738054/share-files-between-debian-wheezy-and-windows-8-on-lan |
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| 22:57.12 | nikio_ | is this valid? |
| 22:57.16 | nikio_ | will it workfor windows7? |
| 22:57.21 | jhutchins_wk | skint2: wireless support is generally not done at the distribution (debian) level, but by the kernel developers. |
| 22:57.39 | jhutchins_wk | skint2: What chipset does it use? What is it's pci id? |
| 22:57.45 | skint2 | jhutchins_wk, where is the IRC channel for debian developers? |
| 22:57.47 | Disconsented | http://pastebin.com/xC94WYQi killing bash still doesn't allow me to remove that file :| |
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| 22:58.12 | hesperaux | nikio_, yes that is valid. Yes it will work for win7. However, make sure you have a linux user present with the same name and password as the smbpasswd user. |
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| 22:59.11 | skint2 | jhutchins_wk, pci id? how can i find out? |
| 22:59.16 | hesperaux | Disconsented, why are you killing bash? |
| 22:59.32 | Disconsented | [11:50:43] <jhutchins_wk> Disconsented: My guess would be that there is a shell that has CD'ed to that directory. Find the shell and kill it. |
| 22:59.33 | Disconsented | [11:50:50] <jhutchins_wk> Disconsented: ps ax | grep bash |
| 22:59.36 | jhutchins_wk | skint2: lspci -nn (as root0 |
| 22:59.55 | hesperaux | Disconsented, i see. Obviously that's not the case. However, you didn't verify that the process was actually killed. |
| 22:59.56 | skint2 | jhutchins_wk, https://wikidevi.com/wiki/Thomson_SpeedTouch_110g |
| 23:00.23 | hesperaux | Disconsented, either way, use lsof /var/www/clients/client0/web1/log to see what procs are using the file |
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| 23:00.53 | hesperaux | you can also try fuser -a <path>, Disconsented |
| 23:01.23 | jhutchins_wk | ,v p54pci |
| 23:01.24 | judd | No package named 'p54pci' was found in i386. |
| 23:01.37 | Disconsented | fuser -a returns "/var/www/clients/client0/web1/log:" |
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| 23:02.44 | hesperaux | Disconsented, and lsof? |
| 23:02.52 | skint2 | jhutchins_wk, Device [1fca:0110] (rev 01) |
| 23:03.25 | jhutchins_wk | ,pciid 1fca:0110 |
| 23:03.27 | judd | [1fca:0110] is 'Unknown device' from 'Unknown vendor' with no known kernel module in wheezy or in sid. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=1fca:0110 |
| 23:03.40 | jhutchins_wk | skint2: That would be a "no". |
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| 23:04.07 | Disconsented | lsof returns 18312 lines |
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| 23:04.14 | hesperaux | lol holy crap |
| 23:04.22 | hesperaux | Disconsented, can you please pastebin a handful of the lines? |
| 23:04.22 | jhutchins_wk | skint2: It looks from your link like you might be able to download the source from kernel.org or sourceforge and build the kernel module yourself. |
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| 23:04.47 | Disconsented | http://pastebin.com/RcuZfxXb |
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| 23:05.17 | skint2 | jhutchins_wk, i am new to Debian and i a desktop newbie. Is what you are suggesting something that a desktop newbie should do? |
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| 23:07.36 | hesperaux | Disconsented, not sure why, but lsof is outputting all of your used files, not just the log. try adding " | grep web1" to your command |
| 23:08.01 | Disconsented | that returns nothing |
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| 23:08.15 | hesperaux | hmm. |
| 23:08.18 | jhutchins_wk | skint2: Probably not. Probably easier to try a different card if you can. |
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| 23:08.27 | hesperaux | Disconsented, and right now you still can't delete the file? |
| 23:08.33 | Disconsented | I cannot delete it |
| 23:08.36 | hesperaux | Disconsented, something might be opening and closing the file rapidly |
| 23:08.52 | hesperaux | is the file being written to? try tail -f /path/to/log |
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| 23:09.01 | incal | hello, if I have a binary, can I launch it from the kernel (or otherwise) so that it will run exclusively in kernel-space? |
| 23:09.36 | Disconsented | df -h reports "/dev/disk/by-label/DOROOT 20G 4.5G 15G 24% /var/www/clients/client0/web1/log" if it matters |
| 23:10.04 | hesperaux | Disconsented, is that a log directory or a log file? |
| 23:10.11 | Disconsented | directory |
| 23:10.22 | Disconsented | http://pastebin.com/MYS2FkVR |
| 23:10.24 | hesperaux | oh. how many files are in therE? |
| 23:10.39 | hesperaux | yeah, sorry I thought it was a log file |
| 23:11.02 | Disconsented | ls reports nothing |
| 23:11.09 | Disconsented | same as filezilla |
| 23:11.23 | bezaban | in what cases would you argue for debian in a dc? |
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| 23:12.11 | bezaban | or would you? |
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| 23:12.54 | Bartleby | If the package tracker says something a package is migrating to testing today, is there a set time that this usually happens? |
| 23:13.18 | hesperaux | Disconsented, ls -a shows no hidden files? |
| 23:13.33 | jhutchins_wk | skint2: Heh. Found an answer for you, but it's in French: http://forum.ubuntu-fr.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1475908 |
| 23:13.38 | Disconsented | ". .." |
| 23:14.01 | hesperaux | Disconsented, very interesting.. |
| 23:14.18 | hesperaux | so you're trying to delete the directory? or unmount the fs? |
| 23:14.28 | jhutchins_wk | skint2: There's some english help at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=45311 |
| 23:15.01 | jhutchins_wk | skint2: (Hint: Google Translate will at least get you english words if not grammar.) |
| 23:15.11 | Disconsented | delete the directory |
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| 23:15.19 | hesperaux | Disconsented, if you're trying to just delete the directory, it won't allow you to do so until you unmount its filesystem. You have a mountpoint there |
| 23:15.26 | Disconsented | Ahh |
| 23:15.45 | hesperaux | umount /var/www/clients/client0/web1/log should fix it for ya |
| 23:16.24 | Disconsented | http://pastebin.com/nrHhXnM7 |
| 23:16.59 | Bartleby | Like 11:59pm or something? |
| 23:17.00 | hesperaux | Disconsented, you're int he dir. cd ~ |
| 23:17.13 | Disconsented | derp |
| 23:17.16 | Disconsented | ty |
| 23:17.18 | hesperaux | :) |
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| 23:18.14 | Disconsented | Ah ha! |
| 23:18.17 | Disconsented | That got it |
| 23:19.41 | hesperaux | very good |
| 23:20.12 | Disconsented | ty vm |
| 23:20.19 | hesperaux | no problem |
| 23:20.24 | g00se | lsof? |
| 23:21.00 | g00se | Disregard |
| 23:21.12 | skint2 | jhutchins_wk, loose word without proper grammar make no sense. google translator sucks! |
| 23:21.49 | somiaj | gribouille: that is a very bad service as it is not well defined what the networking service does. It is (and always has) been better to modify the interfaces directally after boot |
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| 23:27.53 | skint2 | jhutchins_wk, that tutorial is for kernel 2.6 and completely outdate. will folow your advice and try another pcmcia card. thanks |
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| 23:29.45 | gribouille | somiaj, ok |
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| 23:34.08 | bezaban | babilen: are you around? |
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| 23:48.51 | squisher | hey folks, anyone here know how to identify usb3 devices? I'm in the curious situation where I attached an external hdd to my t420s on the usb3 port and it's working but not even showing up in lsusb... |
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| 23:49.15 | somiaj | squisher: but you see it in demsg? |
| 23:49.19 | somiaj | squisher: sorry dmesg |
| 23:49.48 | somiaj | squisher: also what kernel are you running? |
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| 23:49.57 | squisher | somiaj, yeah, it's working just fine. But I only get around 35MB/s out of it, so I'm curious to verify if the usb3 part is working as expected |
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| 23:50.43 | somiaj | squisher: well what is the dmesg output near the time you pluged the device in. That will tell you what kernel features it is using. |
| 23:51.06 | squisher | somiaj, 3.13, let me look at dmesg again |
| 23:51.39 | somiaj | that kernel should be new enough to have usb3 support. Thinking the wheezy 3.2 kernel might be lacking in that. |
| 23:51.44 | squisher | hm, it actually says "attached scsi generic sg0" |
| 23:51.50 | somiaj | unsure why you arne't seeing the device in lsusb |
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| 23:52.31 | somiaj | well that is what usb massstorge does is identify it with a scsi device, surprised it is using sg0 and not sdX |
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| 23:53.49 | squisher | somiaj, it is using sda actually (my internal hdd became sdb) -- pastebin.com/zuSfL9wE |
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| 23:54.40 | squisher | I had the device plugged in at boot time |
| 23:56.09 | squisher | ah, spotted it in dmesg... that still doesn't explain lsusb though |
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| 23:57.14 | squisher | and dmesg says it is "high-speed", so usb2 only |
| 23:57.19 | somiaj | squisher: yea there should be multiple lines, does it say if it loaded it as a usb3 device or not? It isn't the jmicron drive mentioned in lsusb |
| 23:58.19 | squisher | somiaj, oops, yes it is. I was looking for the usb3 hub (bus 002) because that's the port I plugged it in |
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