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| 00:27.47 | sheap | how can I get a custom "tasksel" into the debian installer/preseed? |
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| 00:28.50 | mofino | sheap, rebuild the debian installer |
| 00:30.08 | sheap | mofino: is there any other way for having a few meta packages and having the user (at network boot) select which ones they want, which then gets passed to the preseed and those meta packages are installed? |
| 00:31.21 | mofino | preseed is built and source by the installer, you can't modify it during it's operation |
| 00:31.35 | mofino | sourced* |
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| 00:35.41 | sheap | so it would have to be something like a late command? or is this just not possible |
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| 00:37.31 | mofino | doesn't seem possible |
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| 00:38.18 | mofino | not without customizations |
| 00:38.22 | dondelelcaro | sheap: the easiest way is just a late command |
| 00:40.31 | okee | Can someone tell me how to downgrade to the last version of Google-Talk-Plugin? I am no longer able to use Google Talk Plugin, since the last upgrade. AFter entering a phone number in the input box, gobblety gook shows up in the input box. |
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| 00:55.19 | Arahael | so, it seems MS is now supporting linux for .net and viual studio... i wonder what this means? |
| 00:55.36 | Arahael | (Or will be very soon) |
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| 01:10.05 | nullfaith | I have linked my sysctl.conf. I appened the end to, I thought, disable ipv6. Can someone tell me why netstat -tulpn still shows tcp/udp 6?https://pastee.org/ctcct |
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| 01:10.25 | nullfaith | I am sorry ahead of time if I have done something ignorant. |
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| 01:11.19 | Dagger | nullfaith: disabling v6 counts. :| |
| 01:11.50 | hypermist | question i've managed to install nodejs, but where do things install on debian when you isntall ? |
| 01:12.26 | nullfaith | Dagger: Not sure I follow? |
| 01:12.28 | Dagger | tcp6/udp6 sockets in netstat are not necessarily actually v6 connections. you can use v6 sockets to accept v4 connections -- netstat will report that as a tcp6 socket but it's still a v4 connection in every way |
| 01:12.46 | nullfaith | Dagger: Thanks bro. |
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| 01:13.15 | Dagger | (i.e. don't worry about it) |
| 01:13.30 | Dagger | although I would also have said "don't worry about v6" in general. disabling it is rarely the right thing to do :/ |
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| 01:13.55 | nullfaith | Why is that? |
| 01:15.01 | Dagger | because the goal is v6 everywhere, and disabling it makes that harder to achieve |
| 01:15.05 | tomivs | Hi |
| 01:15.08 | dondelelcaro | there's really little point; ipv6 is fairly penetrant now anyway |
| 01:15.16 | dondelelcaro | and there are some ipv6 only sites, too |
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| 01:16.07 | nullfaith | I just thought since I was hardening this box to the max.... |
| 01:16.12 | tomivs | I have a i7 (4 cores) processor but iceweasel only use 1 core |
| 01:16.29 | Arahael | dondelelcaro: nice. sad that australia is still all ipv4 |
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| 01:18.15 | dondelelcaro | Arahael: you can still tunnel out of australia |
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| 01:19.12 | dondelelcaro | Arahael: internode has it apparently, too. |
| 01:19.24 | dondelelcaro | (but it's certain that not every single ISP does) |
| 01:20.07 | Arahael | dondelelcaro: telstra doesn't. that's all that matters |
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| 01:38.37 | srged | I created a new user for my debian system. and when i try to login it looks like logging in but then it spits me back to the login streen |
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| 01:40.25 | dondelelcaro | srged: how did you create the new user? |
| 01:40.33 | dondelelcaro | srged: what do you see in /var/log/auth.log? |
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| 01:40.59 | srged | dondelelcaro: I created using "useradd" and then setup a pass using "passwd" |
| 01:41.14 | dondelelcaro | srged: useradd doesn't create the home directory, iirc. You usually want adduser. |
| 01:41.42 | srged | dondelelcaro: ok ill try adduser now and report back |
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| 01:52.26 | jimbo1qaz | How do I get synaptic and gdebi, I assume gksu to ask for normal password, rather than nonexistent root pw? |
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| 01:54.13 | shadok | jimbo1qaz: gksudo is the way to go if you're using sudo and have no root password |
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| 01:54.39 | jimbo1qaz | but synaptic breaks when launched without sudo |
| 01:54.53 | jimbo1qaz | nvm |
| 01:55.04 | jimbo1qaz | gdebi-gtk package breaks |
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| 01:58.14 | shadok | jimbo1qaz: i meant: use 'gksudo synaptic' instead of 'gksu synaptic' |
| 01:58.27 | jimbo1qaz | well that's not what the menu does |
| 01:58.30 | jimbo1qaz | nvm |
| 01:58.41 | jimbo1qaz | I tried changing the backend in update-alternatives, didn't work |
| 01:59.00 | jimbo1qaz | shadok it appears that gdebi-gtk automatically calls gksu |
| 01:59.06 | jimbo1qaz | xfce |
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| 02:01.00 | shadok | jimbo1qaz: you can have both, just run that in a terminal (or with ALT + F2) |
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| 02:01.19 | jimbo1qaz | how do I change gksu to call gksudo instead, where it is used in scritps? |
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| 02:02.32 | jimbo1qaz | I already sudo update-alternatives --config libgksu-gconf-defaults |
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| 02:03.30 | shadok | jimbo1qaz: depends on where it's called but you can try using 'gksu-properties' to change the behavior |
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| 02:06.45 | jimbo1qaz | got it |
| 02:07.03 | shadok | :) |
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| 02:12.39 | jimbo1qaz | shouldn't that be set on install? |
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| 02:15.48 | shadok | jimbo1qaz: sudo is not installed by default on debian, that may have changed though |
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| 02:16.21 | jimbo1qaz | and if I blank root password in setup, shouldn't it reconfigure everything so it... you know, actually works? |
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| 02:18.20 | shadok | jimbo1qaz: obviously it should, you may want to look if a bug is filed about that and file it if it's not |
| 02:18.38 | jimbo1qaz | is it fixed in sid/jessie? |
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| 02:19.52 | shadok | i don't know, i don't use gui much and mainly use cli to launch the few needing root |
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| 02:26.09 | jimbo1qaz | How close is Jessie to release? |
| 02:26.34 | Cpuroast | freeze is in nov |
| 02:26.37 | Cpuroast | so, soon |
| 02:26.38 | Cpuroast | release |
| 02:26.41 | jimbo1qaz | how do I change reportbug mode? |
| 02:26.46 | Cpuroast | I'd say h1 2015 |
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| 02:27.32 | jimbo1qaz | half 1? |
| 02:28.20 | jimbo1qaz | bug already exists https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=481689 |
| 02:29.45 | lyonsb | (Jessie is between 8 - 15 weeks from release) |
| 02:29.55 | lyonsb | (Ballpark) |
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| 02:30.22 | jimbo1qaz | suggestion for cross-platform midi editor? I release bad video game rips on youtube |
| 02:30.33 | jimbo1qaz | actually good rips from good games |
| 02:30.35 | J__ | I have a problem. |
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| 02:31.07 | rebauld | is it legal to release a midi on the internet? i thought they were outlawed |
| 02:31.45 | jimbo1qaz | well, there are music recordings (not rips) available, and no complaints other than content ID so far. |
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| 02:32.39 | rebauld | http://www2.spindle.net/rmenoher/midi.htm |
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| 02:33.03 | shadok | jimbo1qaz: the audacity wiki has some suggestions, http://wiki.audacityteam.org/wiki/Midi#Free_programs_for_working_with_MIDI |
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| 02:34.15 | jimbo1qaz | well, musescore butchers midi percussion and overall volumes... |
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| 02:35.19 | jimbo1qaz | irrelevant, but why are midi organs 8vb lower than normal? |
| 02:35.27 | shadok | never worked with midi, a friend used rosegarden but that's all i know about that |
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| 02:37.35 | rebauld | don't forget -> ffmpeg might lower it's standards and work with midi |
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| 02:40.00 | jimbo1qaz | what does that mean? |
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| 02:40.50 | rebauld | don't rule out ffmpeg for your conversion (cross platform needs) |
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| 03:02.36 | astings | hello |
| 03:02.40 | centrx | Ahoy |
| 03:02.43 | astings | guys i need help |
| 03:02.53 | astings | 0ad not run in fedora 20 |
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| 03:02.58 | astings | heisenbug |
| 03:03.06 | centrx | Is this some kind of running joke |
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| 03:03.45 | rebauld | it is serious no joking around |
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| 03:06.06 | Simotek-Work | astings, try #fedora |
| 03:06.46 | astings | ok |
| 03:06.51 | rebauld | or astings come out from the darkness into the sunlight and switch to debian |
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| 03:16.24 | Luke_Rubcic | i'm selling comics 1$ each please check out my store http://www.ebay.com/cln/luke_rubcics_comics/comics/133704481010 |
| 03:17.30 | rebauld | ahahaha the people here won't rtfm what makes you think they will read comic books? |
| 03:17.58 | Simotek-Work | lol |
| 03:18.17 | Simotek-Work | many people here that wont rtfm probably read xkcd though |
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| 03:20.34 | astings | never |
| 03:20.39 | astings | swicth |
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| 03:20.42 | astings | debian |
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| 03:32.39 | rebauld_ | you get sendmail from 'sendmail' or postfix |
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| 03:33.06 | Zerock | Well, I found it. |
| 03:33.14 | Zerock | It's in a location where only root can see it. |
| 03:33.29 | Zerock | rebauld_: ssmtp's man page claims that it provides sendmail. |
| 03:33.41 | rebauld_ | cool |
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| 03:40.08 | astings | iḿ noob |
| 03:41.00 | rebauld_ | we already know you are a fedorite |
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| 04:31.44 | johnnyfive | I have a sound card that shows up in /proc/asound/cards, however not in aplay -l. It is a nvidia hdmi output. Graphics work, and the nvidia-driver is installed. Any thoughts or direction I should go with this? |
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| 05:04.21 | okee | something really weird has happened to my computer. GMail talk no longer works, and the phone numbers are scrambled when selecting the "dial", and Iceweasel keeps disconnecting. I moved over to my Macbook, and there doesn't seem to be a problem with that. Anyone know what is going on? ARe other people experiencing problems with the GMail voice phone dialer? |
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| 05:08.25 | johnnyfive | Mine works fine, but i'm not in ice weasel. okee |
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| 05:11.48 | okee | johnnyfive> What are you using? |
| 05:12.02 | johnnyfive | chromium |
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| 05:18.43 | okee | johnnyfive> And the dialer works? I abandoned Chromium awhile back on Debian because the dialer didn't work, and Chrome and Firefox worked fine for a long time, until tonight. |
| 05:18.50 | okee | I guess I need to go back to Chromium. |
| 05:19.42 | johnnyfive | okee, it might be part of the integration with hangouts. Do you have the hangouts plugin installed? |
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| 05:21.03 | okee | johnnyfive> I don't know. i don't think so. I get prompted to download the plugin, and after installing, it keeps prompting me to download the google talk plugin. |
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| 05:21.50 | PCChris | hello, I'm getting the following errors on apt-get dist-upgrade from Wheezy to Jessie as well as on `dpkg --configure -a`: Setting up systemd (215-5+b1) ... Failed to execute operation: No such file or directory |
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| 05:22.07 | PCChris | and then "Failed to parse message: No such device or address" |
| 05:23.10 | PCChris | not sure how to proceed. |
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| 05:27.22 | msx | hello all, do you know if testing is using systemd or is it sid? i'm considering install debian but if so I would like to go with the most updated iso |
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| 05:28.14 | centrx | msx, both have systemd |
| 05:28.20 | centrx | msx, sid is the "most updated" |
| 05:28.23 | msx | centrx: o/ |
| 05:28.50 | centrx | msx, but recommended way to install testing is to use the stable installer and upgrade from stable |
| 05:28.53 | msx | centrx: please help me here: is there any iso for sid available? |
| 05:29.00 | msx | ahh |
| 05:29.10 | centrx | same with sid |
| 05:29.13 | msx | centrx: perfect, you stepped in before i had time to ask about that! |
| 05:29.16 | PCChris | the first error occurs in systemd.postinst, when it attempts to do systemctl enable getty@tty1.service |
| 05:29.32 | centrx | msx, There is a testing installer, and it would be great if you tested it, but the stable installer is stable |
| 05:30.06 | msx | centrx: okay, i will go with the testing installer first then as i want the clean install to have systemd already |
| 05:30.35 | msx | centrx: tnx for everything, c ya :) |
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| 05:34.13 | PCChris | any suggestions? |
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| 05:37.28 | msx | centrx: sorry to bother again: do you know if there's any Sid install iso (netinstall, cd, dvd, whatever?) |
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| 05:39.26 | centrx | msx, https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/builds |
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| 05:40.28 | centrx | msx, but the installer is fairly separate from the software packages to be installed |
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| 05:40.54 | msx | eeeeek!!! |
| 05:41.02 | centrx | msx, You can do just a base install with an installer and then change the packages sources |
| 05:41.04 | msx | oh, how's that? |
| 05:41.45 | msx | i just downloaded the testing netinstall image, will go with it then and then switch to sid |
| 05:41.57 | msx | from what I understand these days sid seems to run pretty stable |
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| 05:45.18 | centrx | msx, jessie (in testing) is frozen, so unstable uploads are relatively stable until the release |
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| 06:01.08 | JayJax | Question is it possible to run a graphical environment on a vps? |
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| 06:04.38 | nkuttler | JayJax: you can run gui apps, see ssh -X |
| 06:05.40 | JayJax | Wine specific |
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| 06:20.51 | engblom | Running Jessie and Xmonad on amd64 I am not able to mount smb shares with thunar. What am I missing? |
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| 06:50.16 | okee | A very strange thing has occurred with my computer. I see a padlock inside the input box of the GMail dialer, and no phone # entered into the dialer will dial? Any idea how to get rid of this? |
| 06:50.46 | okee | Gmailis disconnecting in firefox (Ice Weasel) as well. |
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| 07:05.57 | e^0 | is anyone using btfrs ? want to learn what are your experiences of difficulties if ever faced ? |
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| 07:07.03 | yoshi314 | e^0: you have to learn the brtfs command to do everything, and wrap your head around subvolumes - if you want to use them |
| 07:07.11 | yoshi314 | *btrfs |
| 07:07.15 | yoshi314 | even for df |
| 07:08.29 | e^0 | yoshi314: ok, but is btrfs stable enough ? recently heard that it got stable and ready to use for production |
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| 07:09.52 | yoshi314 | e^0: i think it is fairly stable, i mostly used it for some non critical data for quite a while and recently for opensuse installation and had no issues yet |
| 07:09.59 | yoshi314 | definitely more stable than reiser4 ever was ;) |
| 07:10.14 | e^0 | than it's good :) |
| 07:10.54 | yoshi314 | i still remember how i somehow corrupt the reiser4 fs back in the day, just by symlinking things |
| 07:11.28 | e^0 | even recently saw that btrfs performance is better wrt to ext4 in most of the cases, don't know wether i read is correct or not. |
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| 07:12.55 | yoshi314 | it probably depends on the case, it might be btrfs is faster in some situations |
| 07:13.21 | e^0 | hmm.. |
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| 07:13.21 | yoshi314 | e.g. if you use lzo compression and read out a file from slow disk - it might be faster than reading it uncompressed |
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| 07:13.43 | yoshi314 | also btrfs has raid and other fancy features |
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| 07:14.46 | e^0 | yeah true :) Once it is production ready, it might take another 3-4 years, but after that it will be among the best fs available on linux. |
| 07:15.14 | yoshi314 | definitely one of the most sophisticated |
| 07:16.03 | yoshi314 | i like the snapshots thingy, especially ability to boot into older one. transparent compression - might be useful but ratio is probably not that impressive anyway |
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| 07:16.21 | e^0 | ok :) |
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| 07:18.05 | e^0 | trying out btrfs hope it goes good :) |
| 07:18.16 | yoshi314 | opensuse has already implemented some support for btrfs, snapshots integrated into system mechanism and default install with btrfs subvolumes |
| 07:18.21 | yoshi314 | might be worth a try in a vm |
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| 07:19.00 | e^0 | sure will give it a try |
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| 07:20.05 | yoshi314 | plus, it has also kde 5.1 or so in main repository, for the curious. and it actually works pretty well. |
| 07:20.25 | Loshki | Brave man. I still consider ext4 too risky :-) |
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| 07:22.27 | engblom | is using xfs everywhere |
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| 07:23.01 | e^0 | xfs is also a good fs |
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| 07:23.33 | yoshi314 | Loshki: never failed me so far, i keep most personal data on it |
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| 07:24.01 | yoshi314 | it's mostly ext3 + extents, rest of gimmicks is probably optional |
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| 07:24.09 | engblom | Still nobody knowing how to access smb-shares with thunar (running outside of xfce). Apparently all dependencies did not get automatically pulled down or there are some other problems. |
| 07:24.35 | engblom | I have had ext4 failing badly... |
| 07:24.42 | yoshi314 | engblom: xfce is probably launching some gnome services on startup (maybe it's gvfs related) |
| 07:24.45 | engblom | xfs has never failed badly for me |
| 07:25.34 | engblom | yoshi314: I got it to work with openbsd without starting any services manually. I think it is only a matter of missing dependencies or configuring something. |
| 07:25.45 | j4s0nmchr1st0s | Don't you want to slaughter romans? |
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| 07:26.15 | eb0t | hey does anyone use an irc bouncer |
| 07:26.20 | eb0t | if so what is the best one to use |
| 07:26.27 | j4s0nmchr1st0s | It is only invincible ignorance holding it back. |
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| 07:26.47 | eb0t | so far spybnc looks good |
| 07:26.56 | eb0t | psybnc |
| 07:27.12 | j4s0nmchr1st0s | If they dont have enough mind control to hold their body back from eating a hotdog for a few hours. |
| 07:28.00 | j4s0nmchr1st0s | They aren't in a psychological position to accept the truth. |
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| 07:34.13 | e^0 | just one weired question, thing which i have not observed till now is " during security update do debian gets booted ? " |
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| 07:39.22 | e^0 | was my question tooooo dumb :D |
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| 07:44.52 | chaotic_good | hi |
| 07:45.23 | chaotic_good | http://http.debian.net/ |
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| 07:45.29 | chaotic_good | found this |
| 07:46.22 | chaotic_good | now uh |
| 07:46.40 | chaotic_good | do I use stable or wheezy? |
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| 07:47.21 | chaotic_good | https://gist.github.com/anonymous/2cc5075999b94b769c5d |
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| 07:47.41 | chaotic_good | I installed 7.4 |
| 07:47.49 | chaotic_good | wana get to 7.7 |
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| 07:53.47 | nkuttler | chaotic_good: if you have to ask, you use wheezy |
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| 07:53.58 | nkuttler | !ops huerrica pm spam |
| 07:54.00 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: nkuttler complains about: huerrica pm spam |
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| 07:59.22 | babilen | hmm |
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| 07:59.39 | chaotic_good | 7.4 |
| 07:59.54 | chaotic_good | aptitude dist-upgrade does nada |
| 08:00.03 | chaotic_good | I did a netinstall |
| 08:00.09 | chaotic_good | 7.4 cd |
| 08:00.28 | chaotic_good | how do I see what release I am on? |
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| 08:01.15 | chaotic_good | # cat /etc/debian_version |
| 08:01.18 | chaotic_good | 7.7 |
| 08:01.23 | chaotic_good | ah haa!!! |
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| 08:01.39 | chaotic_good | so im already on 7.7 nice |
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| 08:09.16 | j4s0nmchr1st0s | Do you work for good? |
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| 08:11.46 | j4s0nmchr1st0s | It was a messianic verse. |
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| 08:16.14 | g00se | We're not interested in him. He didn't even manage to predict systemd |
| 08:16.40 | Guest76556 | j4s0nmchr1st0s: are you a bot? If you're not, keep #debian clear for tech support, please. |
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| 08:20.36 | SOUL_OF_R00T | nice morning guys! |
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| 08:22.22 | tapout | how do you handle this: libqt4-phonon : Conflicts: libphonon4 but 4:4.6.0.0-3 is to be installed E: Unable to correct problems, you have held broken packages |
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| 08:23.27 | jelly-home | !tell tapout about basic apt troubleshooting |
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| 08:25.16 | tapout | which pastebin? |
| 08:25.24 | tapout | !pastebin |
| 08:25.26 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 08:26.16 | jelly-home | (pretty much any except the ad-ridden pastebin.com) |
| 08:26.43 | tapout | http://paste.debian.net/131530/ |
| 08:27.55 | jelly-home | tapout: why would you want to install libqt5* ? |
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| 08:28.20 | hypermist | how to unportfoward a port ? |
| 08:28.26 | tapout | so I can build qt5 stuff |
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| 08:30.55 | jelly-home | tapout: Not knowing much about qt5, I'd suggest doing an "apt-cache search qt5 dev" and "apt-cache search qt5 qmake" and installing those. oh, also, we can't support raspbian in here. Please ask in #raspbian channel. |
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| 08:32.20 | tapout | ah okay, thanks |
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| 08:42.32 | olivier_bK | i try to set up bridge on my debian but when i write this on /etc/network/interfaces |
| 08:42.34 | olivier_bK | https://gist.github.com/zyriuse75/d84882ba6ee1d0ab6de7 |
| 08:42.45 | olivier_bK | and i restart the network |
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| 08:44.10 | olivier_bK | my interface xenbr0 does not get any ip address |
| 08:44.12 | olivier_bK | ?? |
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| 08:46.53 | jelly-home | olivier_bK: you probably had to "ifdown eth0" before making those changes. Make sure there is no remaining IP config on eth0, and no dhclient process running for eth0 either. |
| 08:47.55 | olivier_bK | i have a iface eth0 inet dhcp |
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| 08:50.24 | babilen | shouldn't that have been s/dhcp/manual ? |
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| 08:50.43 | babilen | There was some documentation regarding bridges on the wiki iirc |
| 08:50.48 | tapout | jelly, why would ... 'libqt5*' match .. 'libqt3-mt' ? |
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| 09:09.53 | chaotic_good | hi |
| 09:11.28 | SOUL_OF_R00T | ipcrm not remove a queue why? id appear on ipcs list... |
| 09:11.31 | olivier_bK | it's what i have in my interface https://gist.github.com/zyriuse75/78807619b92f2225afdf |
| 09:11.54 | olivier_bK | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:12.09 | olivier_bK | and he cant get any ip address |
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| 09:12.45 | olivier_bK | and the interface br0 cant get any ip address |
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| 09:22.57 | GuestOgre | hi, how to scan ntfs usb-hdd under linux? |
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| 09:30.58 | petn-randall | GuestOgre: Scan in what way? |
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| 09:45.47 | GuestOgre | petn-randall: scan to check and fix corrupted files |
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| 09:55.13 | colonolGron | hi, is there a way to instal all qt5 libs? |
| 09:56.06 | armin | hi. i'm trying to exclude "xosd" from getting shadows by compton but i fail. xwininfo is showing the following for such an xosd "window": http://fpaste.org/150385/87245814/ - what i was trying was a line like the following in my .compton.conf: shadow-exclude = "class_g = 'XOSD'"; |
| 09:56.11 | armin | any hint what i did wrong? |
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| 09:58.51 | horsik | armin: https://github.com/chjj/compton/blob/master/compton.sample.conf#L13-L19 |
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| 10:00.55 | petn-randall | GuestOgre: ntfs-3g should come with ntfsck, I think you can do it with that. |
| 10:01.56 | armin | horsik: thanks. still my question remains how to exclude xosd from it... |
| 10:02.08 | armin | horsik: i also tried using xprop but that fails, too. |
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| 10:02.41 | horsik | you're trying to match window name as WM_CLASS atom |
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| 10:03.27 | armin | horsik: hm, then i probably can only view the c-source code and see what they set there, right? |
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| 10:04.23 | horsik | no, shadow-exclude = [ |
| 10:04.44 | armin | horsik: hm. and how do i match the osd_cat window there? |
| 10:04.46 | horsik | "name = 'XOSD'" ] |
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| 10:04.52 | armin | that's what i tried. |
| 10:05.23 | horsik | you said you tried class_g |
| 10:05.30 | armin | aaaaah! |
| 10:05.32 | armin | :) |
| 10:05.35 | armin | horsik: thank you! |
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| 10:06.09 | armin | horsik: works like a charm. thanks in advance. :) |
| 10:06.15 | horsik | np |
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| 10:07.31 | armin | horsik: hm. no. that excludes normal windows as well for some reason. |
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| 10:08.36 | horsik | does these windows share the same window name |
| 10:08.40 | armin | ah, my fault. syntax errors. |
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| 10:09.05 | armin | also, this: [1] 15822 segmentation fault compton --config .compton.conf |
| 10:09.07 | armin | 8) |
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| 10:17.10 | jelly-home | petn-randall, GuestOgre: ntfsck only has a few basic checks. You have to use a native tool on Windows. |
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| 10:56.57 | Dragonowsky | Hi |
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| 11:14.45 | saddy | Hi, I did a netinstall of jessie, but the final diskspace is about 650 MB. Is it possible to reduce it ? |
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| 11:15.16 | saddy | I didn't choose anyting in tasksel (not even "standard utilities") |
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| 11:18.16 | yoshi314 | sary: dpkg -l and see what you can remove |
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| 11:22.16 | jelly-home | saddy: jessie is a work in progress. Use #debian-next channel, on irc.oftc.net for questions about testing or unstable branches |
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| 11:30.04 | Coudy | hi, I want to mount btrfs volume from fstab, (UUID=ed5f680c-b802-41d5-932e-e0995ca0ba01 /data btrfs defaults,acl 0 1 |
| 11:30.04 | Coudy | ) |
| 11:30.17 | Coudy | mount -a show me error mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/xvde1, |
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| 11:30.41 | Coudy | when I mount it from cli with mount -t btrfs /dev/xvde1 /data, then is mounted without error |
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| 11:34.13 | zaxon | Coudy, I have just joined and have some experience with btrfs, would you mind to state your pboelm again? |
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| 11:36.10 | vlt | Hello. How can I let a headless linux machine boot to a state where every key stroke and mouse movement is used as the input of a second remote machineâs X server? |
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| 11:45.21 | Coudy | mount -a show me error mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/xvde1 |
| 11:45.25 | Coudy | when I mount it from cli with mount -t btrfs /dev/xvde1 /data, then is mounted without error |
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| 11:45.58 | CyL | If I do a apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade will a debian 7.5 system be updated to 7.7? |
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| 11:47.21 | zaxon | Coudy, 1. set the fstab line to 0 0 instead of 0 1, as explasined here https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/FAQ#What.27s_the_difference_between_btrfsck_and_fsck.btrfs (the second number is named fs_passno) |
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| 11:47.46 | zaxon | Coudy, 2. please run mount -a and then dmesg | tail and give us the output |
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| 11:49.19 | Silex | hi, I'd like to replace a .udeb in debian installer by a newer version, namely the netcfg one. The one that comes with my OS has a bug about preseeding /etc/network/interfaces that is fixed by a newer version. The dependencies of the new packages are almost similar so doing a "drop in" replacement should just work |
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| 11:49.44 | zaxon | CyL, yes, only one apt-get upgrade required |
| 11:50.08 | zaxon | just do apt-get update ; apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 11:50.17 | Silex | just realised he could more simply try to install a newer version of debian installer instead, brb trying |
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| 11:52.28 | Coudy | zaxon: thx, it crashed on mount option, acl, when I removed it, now it can mount |
| 11:52.39 | CyL | zaxon: Thanks for your kind answer, I just was cautious with the apt-get upgrade since the debian release notes suggest it as an intermediate step, but only when upgrading from 6.x to 7.x |
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| 11:54.22 | zaxon | CyL, 6->7 is a totally different thing than 7.x->7.x. 7.x is a friendly way to say '7 with updated packages'. |
| 11:54.45 | zaxon | you may see debian as plain 6 or 7 and ignore the minor number as well |
| 11:54.56 | CyL | Also, how do I rerun the choose mirror step from the install process (since I didn't had a network when I installed debian)? Is there a more forgiving way than editing the sources files directly? |
| 11:55.13 | CyL | zaxon: I thought so, but asking never hurts ;) |
| 11:55.20 | petn-randall | !tell CyL -about sources.list |
| 11:55.29 | petn-randall | CyL: dpkg sent you the lines you should have in there. |
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| 11:55.40 | zaxon | Coudy, as a general advice, btrfs is in heavy development and it got a lot of bugfixes since 3.2, make sure you are running the latest kernel from wheezy-backports if you are runnign wheezy. |
| 11:55.43 | petn-randall | (assuming you installed Debian wheezy) |
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| 11:56.42 | CyL | petn-randall: thanks |
| 11:57.01 | Coudy | zaxon: I'd like to, but my debian is guest on XEN, and as I read somewhere, and then try, currently latest running kernel is 3.2 |
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| 11:57.16 | Zerock | Anyone have experience setting up exim4, postfix, or ssmtp to send mail via a remote server? Wikis make the process seem mundane, but I simply cannot get it to work. |
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| 12:00.27 | ectospasm | Zerock: I use exim4 to send through smtp.google.com |
| 12:00.43 | ectospasm | Hold on, I think I may have written a blog post about it... |
| 12:00.59 | Zerock | I'm trying to create an environment where I can at least use reportbugs and send without failure. |
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| 12:01.06 | Zerock | Through mail.gandi.net |
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| 12:01.40 | ectospasm | Zerock: this may help: https://eldon.me/?p=126 |
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| 12:22.24 | Zerock | ectospasm: So already your guide differs from my setup. "I set the root and postmaster mail recipient to be my mail address". I was not given this option during reconfigure. |
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| 12:31.14 | mms_ | on boot I see multiple boot entries...there is one having pae in its text and it fails...what to do about it ? how to know if I can fix it or should I just remove it...the one with 486 is working fine... |
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| 12:38.39 | dury | hi there channel :-) |
| 12:39.16 | mms_ | Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU E5400 thats what cpuinfo shows so will it support PAE ? |
| 12:39.37 | dury | I'm running wheezy on http://www.toshiba.eu/discontinued-products/satellite-2410-303/ |
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| 12:40.22 | dury | a bit slow though... never mind |
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| 12:41.09 | dury | as u see 1 × TV-out (NTSC/PAL; RCA connector) |
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| 12:43.15 | dury | want to connect to to tv that has hdmi inputs.. which cable should I connect or what you suggest? |
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| 12:44.29 | jelly-home | dury: no VGA input on the TV? |
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| 12:45.43 | dury | jelly-home, just hdmi |
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| 12:46.25 | adrin | Hi there. I'm getting this repeatedly (http://fpaste.org/150430/82639141/) on my dmesg, also when I lock the screen (gnome), the external monitor turns on and off repeatedly. lspci output: http://fpaste.org/150432/15882755/ |
| 12:46.38 | adrin | any ideas? |
| 12:46.50 | dury | jelly-home, what you think then? |
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| 12:47.25 | jelly-home | dury: I don't have any experience with vga -> hdmi |
| 12:47.25 | dury | jelly-home, is it impossible? |
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| 12:48.14 | jelly-home | no idea, sorry, maybe it's possible, maybe it's not, maybe the adapter would cost more than that whole notebook |
| 12:48.33 | dury | jelly-home, right I see |
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| 12:52.55 | echo083 | hello |
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| 12:53.36 | elcheckito | hi. i have wheezy from iso. apt-get install libreoffice. how do i get spanish language tools now? e.g. dictionary and spell-checker |
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| 12:55.13 | elcheckito | i prefer using apt-get install to manage all installed software if i can.. |
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| 12:57.29 | fraff | elcheckito: apt-cache search libreoffice spanish |
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| 13:02.32 | KMMN | hello, right now I have trouble getting bumblebee to work under debian jessie beta 2, I already tried the tutorials but when using optirun it still throws an error at me that the GPU driver could not be loaded, already changed the KernelDriver to nvidia-current as the tut says, but its still now working. Can anybody help me? Thank you. |
| 13:03.08 | phre4k | KMMN: did you try running it twice? |
| 13:03.21 | phre4k | KMMN: sometimes bumblebee needs a second kick |
| 13:03.31 | KMMN | starting it? |
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| 13:04.37 | KMMN | after the changes made to the config file I restarted the server, but still the same message |
| 13:04.42 | phre4k | KMMN: `optirun XXX` and then if it doesn't work again `optirun XXX` |
| 13:04.50 | KMMN | yes, still the same error |
| 13:05.13 | phre4k | hmk. Are you in the corresponding groups? (I believe bumblebee)? |
| 13:05.21 | KMMN | yes |
| 13:05.30 | phre4k | did you relogin after adding yourself to the group? |
| 13:05.32 | rgr | vga to hdmi would be pointless and expensive. |
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| 13:05.48 | KMMN | the error I get is "fixed" by changing "nvidia" to "nvidia-current" but not with me ^^ |
| 13:06.13 | KMMN | yes, restartet it a couple of times now, have this problem a couple of days now... |
| 13:06.43 | fraff | anyone know why package console-tools is not in jessie ? |
| 13:06.48 | Gforce | Hi, I'm trying to install a app but i get this error: "/lib/i386-linux-gnu/i686/cmov/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.15' not found " couldn't find anything exactly like that in repos.What should I exactly install? |
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| 13:09.13 | Brigo | fraff, i think because console-setup. |
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| 13:09.24 | KMMN | maybe the bumblebee installation killed something, do I have to reinstall jessie? I'm pretty new to debian, maybe that is why |
| 13:09.25 | mms_ | Pentium(R) Dual-Core CPU E5400 thats what cpuinfo shows so will it support PAE ? I do not remember what I did but now I have two boot entries ....PAE one does not work and I use 486. I am thinking to remove linux-modules-3.2.0-4-686-pae using apt |
| 13:09.51 | Brigo | Gforce, you can easyly install a new versio of libc6, you better recompile the program you are trying to install |
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| 13:10.44 | Brigo | mms_, i think you need i686 kernel |
| 13:11.04 | Gforce | Brigo:I have libc6 installed. I really don't want to compile that app. |
| 13:11.05 | Brigo | mms_, how many ram do you have? |
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| 13:11.23 | mms_ | Brigo: 768m I am using it via vbox |
| 13:11.48 | Brigo | Gforce, of course, it is a basic lib, almost all important packages dependes on it, so you can remove or upgrade it. |
| 13:12.20 | Brigo | mms_, if the virtual cpu is Pentium(R) Dual-Core you still need i686 |
| 13:12.36 | Gforce | Brigo:How can I update that on wheezy? |
| 13:12.48 | Brigo | Gforce, install it. |
| 13:13.29 | fraff | Brigo: maybe, but it is in sid (in debports) |
| 13:13.34 | mms_ | Brigo: so should I try to fix PAE one ? how to go about ? existing 486 is working fine. I thought PAE will be more efficient so I thought of it I guess or not sure how I installed it...I was may be months ago... |
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| 13:14.12 | Gforce | Brigo:But how?It seems like 2.13(What I already have) is the latest ver on repos.no? |
| 13:14.17 | KMMN | phre4k: Is it possible that reinstalling my system might fix something, maybe the installation went wrong? |
| 13:14.42 | Brigo | fraff, you mean in backports? |
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| 13:15.10 | mms_ | P |
| 13:15.31 | mms_ | PAE one does not start via vbox at all so I have to use 486...I dont know why PAE fails. |
| 13:15.32 | Brigo | Gforce, it could be, not sure |
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| 13:15.56 | Brigo | mms_, pae is for systems with more than 4G of ram and not 64bits |
| 13:16.01 | Gforce | Brigo:I guess I have to copile the app:(. |
| 13:16.24 | Brigo | sorry, i must go now :-/ |
| 13:16.26 | mms_ | Brigo: oh so I should not use it...I have only 768m via vbox |
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| 13:17.01 | mms_ | Brigo: I better remove it using apt and hopefully it will clear the grub entries too |
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| 13:17.41 | mms_ | Brigo: I must have thought its for 64 bit and may be it will be more efficient |
| 13:17.57 | jelly-home | Brigo: still, the 686-pae kernel is better suited for modern hardware than the 486 flavor |
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| 13:18.18 | jelly-home | mms_: the amd64 flavor is for 64bit CPUs. |
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| 13:18.51 | jelly-home | your CPU is 64bit, but who knows what capabilities vbox exposes for VMs |
| 13:19.35 | Gforce | Any one installed Telegram on wheezy? |
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| 13:22.51 | Deele | hello |
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| 13:23.46 | Deele | how to remove boot promp of recovery options for ubuntu, after it has been powered down without shutdown sequence? |
| 13:24.20 | Deele | or at least, make it like windows has - after a timeout, it just starts normally |
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| 13:26.11 | mms_ | ok I removed PAE one and grub menu.list shows only 486 ones. hope fully next boot it will automatically choose 486 correctly |
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| 13:35.40 | Gforce | Can compiling libc6 ver 6 cause problem?(wheezy) |
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| 13:40.07 | Gforce | Any help? |
| 13:40.26 | elcheckito | fraff: thank you. it did not really help me because i don't see spanish as an option in libreoffice by just doing that, actually... but i appreciate the answer |
| 13:40.50 | phre4k | KMMN: reinstalling might fix the problem, but remember you're on Linux and not Windows, you don't need to reinstall for every shitty error |
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| 13:42.46 | KMMN | I'm new to debian, so I'm not sure if I've killed something, I found another topic and the poster had the same problem and no solution... |
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| 13:48.00 | petn-randall | KMMN: We can't help you unless you describe your problem. |
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| 13:48.59 | KMMN | hi petn-randall its exactly the same problem as described here: forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=114366 |
| 13:49.23 | KMMN | but under jessie now |
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| 13:50.19 | petn-randall | !tell KMMN -about bumblebee |
| 13:50.36 | jelly-home | Gforce: compiling, no. Installing it and overwriting the OS-provided libc, yes |
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| 13:51.05 | petn-randall | KMMN: dpkg sent you some helpful info. Check the Debian wiki page to that, and come back if you get stuck somewhere. |
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| 13:51.50 | Gforce | jelly-home:Well it should be installed to use it right?(to run a app) |
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| 13:52.42 | KMMN | thank you but I followed the installation guide on this site, so I came to this irc as "my last hope", following google links, bugreports etc. for days now |
| 13:53.28 | petn-randall | KMMN: On which point in the installation guide did you get stuck then? |
| 13:54.01 | KMMN | at running an application with optirun I get the same errors as in the link of the forums topic above |
| 13:55.13 | Gforce | * jelly-home:Well it should be installed to use it, right?(to run a app) |
| 13:55.46 | petn-randall | KMMN: Are you using the free nouveou driver or the proprietary nvdia driver? |
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| 13:55.53 | KMMN | nvidia |
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| 13:57.20 | KMMN | the service is running, checked on the fix of bugreport=717687 and stuck at exactly the same point where http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=114366 was |
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| 13:57.29 | petn-randall | KMMN: https://wiki.debian.org/Bumblebee actually described a solution to the bug you see. Have you tried that yet? |
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| 13:58.58 | KMMN | of course, what made me wonder is, that the solution described there did not work and the solution written here: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=717687 differ, because one changed Driver= the other changed KernelDriver, neither of them worked :( |
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| 13:59.56 | jelly-home | Gforce: it's always there, already installed. |
| 14:00.20 | petn-randall | KMMN: I'd try #debian-next on irc.oftc.net, or #bumblebee for further support. #debian-next is where jessie/sid are supported. |
| 14:00.52 | KMMN | alright, thank you very much for your time :-) |
| 14:00.59 | Gforce | jelly-home:So now way at all? |
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| 14:01.59 | hgl | what package does debian use by default to provide /sbin/init? |
| 14:02.08 | hgl | mine has upstart install by default |
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| 14:02.24 | fraff | hgl: dpkg -S /sbin/init |
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| 14:02.52 | hgl | fraff, dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /sbin/init |
| 14:03.06 | relaxed | dpkg -S sbin/init |
| 14:03.06 | dpkg | You Fool! sbin/init is installed! |
| 14:03.42 | fraff | hgl: very strange |
| 14:03.48 | hgl | relaxed, no path found matching pattern *sbin/init* |
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| 14:04.50 | hgl | fraff, some people tell me to install sysvinit, but debian told me "Package sysvinit is not available, but is referred to by another package." |
| 14:06.50 | hgl | my debian is running inside openvz btw, i'm using a openvz vps. |
| 14:07.38 | fraff | hgl: I don't know, on wheezy, sysvinit provides /sbin/init, and on jessie, systemd-sysv does |
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| 14:09.22 | KjetilK | I can't seem to get my automounting right. I just want to mount an NFS share, and Ubuntu has an Ubuntu way: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Autofs , but that doesn't do the trick for me, and I see there's a /etc/auto.net script that clearly supposed to do that and more, so I suppose there is a Debian way, but I don't find that documented in /usr/share/doc/autofs and not the Debian wiki... |
| 14:10.17 | KjetilK | but I don't understand what that script is supposed to do |
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| 14:10.54 | jelly-home | Gforce: no way to do what, sorry? |
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| 14:12.01 | Gforce | jelly-home:installing libc6 without messing with other packages. |
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| 14:12.16 | Gforce | jelly-home:I mean a newer ver. |
| 14:12.17 | jelly-home | Gforce: why would you want to do that? |
| 14:12.31 | dury | all right channel... |
| 14:12.33 | Gforce | jelly-home:To run a app depending on that. |
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| 14:12.56 | jelly-home | Gforce: ask the app authors to build it for Debian 7. |
| 14:13.36 | jelly-home | Gforce: alternatively, use the OS they support, or use Debian jessie, or set up a jessie chroot and install your app there. |
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| 14:13.37 | Gforce | jelly-home:Ok.Thanks. |
| 14:13.37 | petn-randall | Gforce: You can't install a newer libc without messing with everything that depends on it. Do what jelly-home said, or create a jessie chroot to use that application. |
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| 14:13.45 | petn-randall | jelly-home: jinx |
| 14:14.26 | dury | did my best to install xscreensaver but doesn't lanch |
| 14:14.28 | Gforce | jessie chroot? never heard anything about that. |
| 14:14.33 | jelly-home | if it were close to jessie release, it might make some sense to just upgrade libc6, but not yet |
| 14:15.02 | shay_shay_ | Gforce look into schroot |
| 14:15.15 | dury | jelly-home, would u please? |
| 14:15.24 | jelly-home | dury: sorry? |
| 14:15.38 | shay_shay_ | Its a program which simplifies chroot setups, save a lot of time |
| 14:15.53 | dury | jelly-home, to install properly xscreensaver |
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| 14:16.26 | Gforce | Ok, thank you guys.I guess it'll be better to compile it myself. |
| 14:16.43 | shay_shay_ | :O |
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| 14:16.53 | jelly-home | Gforce: yeah, if it's an open source app, it makes sense to build it from source |
| 14:16.56 | shay_shay_ | You still need to make an environment to use it in |
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| 14:17.20 | shay_shay_ | Why not kill both birds at one time |
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| 14:17.44 | Gforce | shay_shay_: environment? |
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| 14:18.15 | Gforce | Well it's Telegram.Can be find here. |
| 14:18.17 | Gforce | https://github.com/telegramdesktop/tdesktop |
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| 14:18.46 | jelly-home | dury: sorry, I'll let someone else help you with that |
| 14:19.05 | Gforce | seems wheezy is not supported at all! |
| 14:19.27 | shay_shay_ | Gforce you make a Jessie schroot and run it from there |
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| 14:19.54 | Gforce | Can you give me a little more info about chroot?Like should i install a Jessie?:/ |
| 14:19.56 | dury | jelly-home, see if I can find someone then, thanks indeed :-) |
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| 14:20.52 | dury | be back later :-) <3 |
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| 14:21.03 | shay_shay_ | Gforce chroot is a utility which if I am not mistaken comes with coreutils so all GNU based linuxes have it |
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| 14:22.10 | shay_shay_ | Gforce schroot is a front end for it which helps setup more complete environments with less work. Then debootstrap will install any current version of Debian to an arbitrary directory |
| 14:22.46 | shay_shay_ | So get debootstrap and schroot and make a Jessie inside your wheezy |
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| 14:23.01 | Gforce | shay_shay_:SO it's like having two versions in one partition? |
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| 14:24.58 | shay_shay_ | chroot stands for change root, e.g. change to an arbitrary directory containing a Linux system |
| 14:24.59 | Gforce | shay_shay_:So should I now download a Jessie ISO? |
| 14:25.11 | shay_shay_ | So yes you can have a root within a root |
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| 14:25.30 | shay_shay_ | debootstrap downloads it |
| 14:25.51 | shay_shay_ | Not an ISO, more like the way apt gets packages |
| 14:25.56 | shay_shay_ | Or D-I |
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| 14:26.42 | Gforce | shay_shay_:I got another distro n another partition.So I can use that, right? |
| 14:26.50 | shay_shay_ | Yeah |
| 14:27.00 | Gforce | Thank you.:) |
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| 14:27.05 | shay_shay_ | You don't need to use debootstrap if its already installed |
| 14:27.18 | shay_shay_ | Just use chroot or schroot |
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| 14:28.20 | shay_shay_ | chroot is a little easier to use on the fly but if you need to customize in any way schroot already has the framework for all of that. Maybe for educational purposes you can try chroot first |
| 14:28.21 | Gforce | I'll try chroot.But one more question: Is there any difference between GUI and CLI apps that way? |
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| 14:28.37 | shay_shay_ | I recommend gentoo wiki for chroot guide |
| 14:29.35 | shay_shay_ | There's nothing specific to gentoo in it |
| 14:30.07 | Gforce | Ok, Thank you. |
| 14:30.11 | afidegnum | Hi, I am on fire initially, on my windows pc, I have later installed ubuntu, so the system runs on dual boot where I can select windows and ubuntu. later I have installed debian, which accidentally deleted the Windows boot. even though the HDD size allocation have space for the window files it can't boot, how can I fix the windows boot back? |
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| 14:33.01 | shay_shay_ | afidegnum: depends on if windows partitions are gone or you simply overwrote bootloader |
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| 14:33.47 | KjetilK | I've been looking autofs, and it seems like the Debian scripts are for larger installations, I should be able to use the Ubuntu way |
| 14:33.53 | Agiofws | hi |
| 14:33.55 | afidegnum | shay_shay_: I have only overwrote the bootloader |
| 14:34.03 | shay_shay_ | afidegnum: if you overwrote bootloader and windows doesn't show up then I think you might have a mixed uefi/MBR system. |
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| 14:34.11 | KjetilK | but when I try that, I get this: http://pastebin.com/u6uTirZq |
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| 14:34.19 | shay_shay_ | You could manually add windows to grub in that case |
| 14:34.58 | shay_shay_ | afidegnum: what version of windows |
| 14:35.00 | afidegnum | shay_shay_: how do I manually add that? |
| 14:35.03 | afidegnum | windows 7 |
| 14:35.06 | Agiofws | i have makehuman 1.0.1 installed through my package manager but i want to install 1.0.2 and i'm downloading Install the debian package located here: makehuman-1.0.2-all.deb. do i have to uninstall 1.0.1 through synaptic and then install 1.0.2 though dpkg -i ? |
| 14:35.26 | Agiofws | by the way does grub boot windows 8.1? |
| 14:35.44 | shay_shay_ | afidegnum: Debian is the OS with grub , correct? |
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| 14:35.55 | afidegnum | yes |
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| 14:36.23 | Agiofws | i have makehuman 1.0.1 installed through my package manager but i want to install 1.0.2 and i'm downloading makehuman-1.0.2-all.deb. Do i have to uninstall 1.0.1 through synaptic and then install 1.0.2 though dpkg -i ? |
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| 14:37.08 | wols | Agiofws: simply install with dpkg -i |
| 14:37.10 | shay_shay_ | OK in debian: ls /sys/firmware/efi | pastebinit |
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| 14:37.49 | wols | shay_shay_: simply assuming he hasn't overwritten the windows partition is not a good idea with this guy. have you seen the partition layout? |
| 14:37.51 | Agiofws | and what about the old version wols ? |
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| 14:38.59 | shay_shay_ | wols: good point. |
| 14:39.00 | wols | it gets upgraded. not there anymore |
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| 14:41.34 | gtristan | How can I know if this package: https://packages.debian.org/jessie/node-uglify packages uglifyjs or uglifyjs2 ? |
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| 14:42.37 | shay_shay_ | afidegnum: paste to pastebin please: lsblk -f |
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| 14:44.49 | afidegnum | shay_shay_: here is the result of the output |
| 14:44.51 | afidegnum | http://pastebin.com/MVGFXLXp |
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| 14:45.50 | shay_shay_ | sudo parted /dev/sda print |
| 14:46.17 | yossarianuk | how can you get the command 'dpkg --configure -a' to show you what it is about to do (in case you bugger your system |
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| 14:49.31 | shay_shay_ | afidegnum: sudo parted /dev/sda print |
| 14:49.34 | afidegnum | shay_shay_: here is the result please http://pastebin.com/BXL8b6FB |
| 14:49.36 | somiaj | yossarianuk: dpkg -l, look for Ui or something like that, installed but unconfigured. Those are the packages it will configure and the postinst scripts it will run |
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| 14:52.04 | somiaj | yossarianuk: there is also a --simulate (--dry-run, --no-act) flag you can use, this will list the packges it is going to configure. But I don't htink there is anyway to know weither or not the postinst scripts will hurt things or not |
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| 14:53.39 | afidegnum | shay_shay_: have you had a look pls? |
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| 14:54.14 | shay_shay_ | afidegnum: yes I am thinking. Haha it's 7am here sorry |
| 14:55.17 | afidegnum | ok, |
| 14:55.39 | yossarianuk | somiaj: thanks |
| 14:56.09 | afidegnum | shay_shay_: either on the 127 or 131GB lies the windows files |
| 14:56.56 | shay_shay_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:58.06 | yossarianuk | shay_shay_: the partition type on http://pastebin.com/BXL8b6FB is msdos |
| 14:58.10 | afidegnum | shay_shay_: no such file or directory |
| 14:58.16 | yossarianuk | doesn;t that mean no UEFI |
| 14:58.20 | yossarianuk | it needs GPT ? |
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| 14:59.16 | afidegnum | shay_shay_: under ls /sys/firmware/ I have acpi and memmap |
| 14:59.20 | shay_shay_ | yossarianuk: well yeah. Doesn't hurt to double check since it is possible to use uefi with a msdos formatted drive |
| 14:59.48 | shay_shay_ | afidegnum: "not found" was answer enough |
| 14:59.49 | yossarianuk | shay_shay_: wasn't aware that was possible - you learn something everyday. |
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| 15:01.22 | shay_shay_ | yossarianuk: or maybe I got that backwards, maybe I am thinking of MBR on a GUID drive... :O |
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| 15:03.11 | afidegnum | so what do i need to do ? |
| 15:03.15 | yossarianuk | shay_shay_: i'm pretty sure you do need GPT for UEFI... That was one good thing about it - it forces you to use GPT. |
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| 15:03.37 | yossarianuk | you can use GPT with bios (with bios boot partition) |
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| 15:04.46 | shay_shay_ | afidegnum: sudo apt-get install os-prober && sudo update-grub |
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| 15:05.15 | afidegnum | merci :) |
| 15:05.21 | shay_shay_ | I think os-prober is already there but I don't have a vanilla wheezy install to compare by |
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| 15:05.49 | shay_shay_ | Not a desktop install anyhow |
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| 15:09.07 | afidegnum | shay_shay_: here is the new installation result, http://pastebin.com/nuYnAaMy |
| 15:09.11 | afidegnum | is it ok now ? |
| 15:09.40 | shay_shay_ | nope :/ |
| 15:09.57 | afidegnum | ??? |
| 15:10.06 | afidegnum | what needs to be done ? |
| 15:10.17 | wols | afidegnum: your update-grub should show Windows in some way, it doesn't |
| 15:10.21 | shay_shay_ | it shows the OS's which were detected and windows wasn't in them. |
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| 15:10.24 | wols | &kastkig afidegnum |
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| 15:11.27 | wols | there should be a 100MB Windows boot partition, but there isn't. not sure what the "diag" one is |
| 15:12.04 | wols | which windows version is it you have installed on the system? |
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| 15:14.08 | shay_shay_ | diag is dell recovery partition i believe |
| 15:14.36 | zaxon | yossarianuk, you can have MBR + UEFI (as opposed to GPT), the Efi System Partition will be 0xEF |
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| 15:14.53 | afidegnum | wols: I installed windows 7 |
| 15:15.11 | zaxon | yossarianuk, EFI/BIOS is orthogonal to MBR/GPT. |
| 15:15.17 | afidegnum | the system initially runs on windows 7 before I installed ubuntu, and later I installed debian which cleared all that |
| 15:16.22 | yossarianuk | zaxon: ok cool - I knew about Bios + GPT working ... - however if you have a UEFI or Bios system you may as well use GPT (as GPT is better...) |
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| 15:23.02 | afidegnum | so what's next please? |
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| 15:25.03 | shay_shay_ | afidegnum: I'm not completely sure but I'm guessing if you run windows 7 boot repair (from the windows 7 install disc) it will overwrite grub and restore all your bootloader files on to that single partition and therefore remove the need to have a seperate 100mb partition. however then you'll need to reinstall grub afterwards so you can boot linux |
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| 15:25.55 | afidegnum | won't that erase the linux installation? |
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| 15:26.25 | shay_shay_ | no, it will just erase grub, the linux bootloader, which is easy to reinstall afterwards. this is assuming that is the problem |
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| 15:30.04 | afidegnum | ok ok ok |
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| 15:30.58 | shay_shay_ | http://www.howtogeek.com/192772/what-is-the-system-reserved-partition-and-can-you-delete-it/ according to this post windows can be installed without the 100mb partition, but if the partition is simply deleted (and the the boot files arent moved onto the main partition first) then it wont boot |
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| 15:31.48 | shay_shay_ | so i presume if you ran startup repair it would be able to fix it without taking anything else out with it |
| 15:31.51 | teriamo | does anyone know if one can encrypt an existing debian system (including the boot drive etc)? |
| 15:31.54 | shay_shay_ | backup first! |
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| 15:32.14 | teriamo | obviously without shuffling data around |
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| 15:32.46 | Psy-Q | hey, font rendering works again, magically |
| 15:32.58 | Psy-Q | kerning is fixed, everything. they must've done something to jessie still these last two days? |
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| 15:35.07 | shay_shay_ | afidegnum: i have an idea |
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| 15:35.36 | shay_shay_ | enable boot flag on your ntfs partition |
| 15:35.59 | shay_shay_ | youll need to do that before running startup repair anyways |
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| 15:36.16 | haiku | #j #deian-es |
| 15:36.22 | shay_shay_ | then update-grub. if it still doesnt work then go the startup repair route |
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| 15:37.19 | haiku | hi all, i have problems with apach and ssl in my webserver |
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| 15:38.03 | shay_shay_ | afidegnum: sudo parted /dev/sda set 3 boot on |
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| 15:40.16 | shay_shay_ | afidegnum: that will tell startup repair that partition is an os |
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| 15:41.10 | afidegnum | shay_shay_: thanks, but what command should I type for that? |
| 15:41.36 | shay_shay_ | sudo parted /dev/sda set 3 boot on && sudo update-grub |
| 15:42.13 | shay_shay_ | "set 3 boot on" means "set flag boot for partition 3 to on" |
| 15:42.24 | afidegnum | ok |
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| 15:42.42 | afidegnum | so after that should I update-grup? |
| 15:43.03 | shay_shay_ | yes just to see if it has an effect |
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| 15:43.18 | afidegnum | Information: You may need to update /etc/fstab. |
| 15:43.20 | shay_shay_ | but i expect you still need startup repair |
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| 15:43.49 | shay_shay_ | afidegnum: you dont need to update fstab your partition layout never changed. its a generic warning |
| 15:43.59 | afidegnum | ok |
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| 15:46.20 | impaktor | If I want to have voice chat with a friend over this thing called the Internet, and he has Debian Stable with default desktop, which program should one use? What is the default program installed on Gnome for this? |
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| 15:46.55 | impaktor | I'm currently confused as to what is the difference between Ekiga and Empathy and Pidgin. |
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| 15:47.21 | leni1 | Empathy is an all-in-one thing for gnome |
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| 15:47.34 | leni1 | Pidgin is more an IM client |
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| 15:48.11 | impaktor | So Ekiga vs. Empathy. Is one a fork of the other? |
| 15:48.18 | yossarianuk | kde telepathy should be used purely because animated .gifs work in it.. |
| 15:48.58 | leni1 | impaktor: ekiga and empathy are separate |
| 15:49.07 | leni1 | Ekiga is a softphone |
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| 15:49.18 | impaktor | VOIP is Internet to land line? |
| 15:49.49 | leni1 | Nope. More audio over Internet |
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| 15:50.08 | leni1 | i.e you're using the Internet line for calls |
| 15:50.18 | leni1 | Rather than your landline |
| 15:50.56 | leni1 | In some cases VOIP is Internet to landline, depending on your connection |
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| 15:52.23 | impaktor | Voice over Internet protocol. |
| 15:52.29 | impaktor | Says it all I guess. |
| 15:52.48 | leni1 | Exactly |
| 15:53.00 | impaktor | Quite annoying when your friend is Skype only, and I'm IRC only. |
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| 15:53.30 | impaktor | I'll see how far I can come with skype->Bitlbee. |
| 15:53.41 | impaktor | But seems like Ekiga is what I should use. |
| 15:53.48 | impaktor | for VOIP |
| 15:53.53 | shay_shay_ | afidegnum: did update-grub have any change? |
| 15:53.58 | SPF | impaktor: I'm using bitlbee for skype/msn |
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| 15:54.39 | afidegnum | no change, |
| 15:54.44 | teriamo | anyone looking into voicechat/voip combo, i recommend ejabberd + jitsi |
| 15:54.45 | afidegnum | but checking things up |
| 15:55.08 | teriamo | or asterisk+ejabber+jitsi+linphone |
| 15:55.40 | teriamo | asterisks for voip, chat+video+voice+encryption=ejabberd+jitsi |
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| 15:55.49 | impaktor | This might be a stupid Q. but both parties must use the same program right? |
| 15:56.05 | impaktor | You cant have Ekiga to Empathy VOIP, I assume? |
| 15:56.09 | teriamo | impaktor: no, one can use telepathy and another jiitsi, for xmpp |
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| 15:56.25 | teriamo | for voip you cna use your normal phone another can use a softphone |
| 15:56.51 | leni1 | Well for VOIP calls I assume that as long as the protocol you're using is the same, then the clients can be different |
| 15:57.07 | impaktor | But the person is in another country. And using normal land line is expensive. |
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| 15:57.39 | teriamo | impaktor: both asterisk and ejabberd are easy to install, you can download asterisk iso which comes with preset stuff, but you need voip number, you can use voip.ms or voipvoip.com etc |
| 15:57.59 | teriamo | it will cost you about $10 a month for number, calls etc |
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| 15:58.14 | impaktor | Oh, so all VOIP clients use some voip number provided by some third party server? |
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| 15:58.24 | teriamo | impaktor: you can get phone number from that country so it is national call for them |
| 15:58.53 | teriamo | you can also use the same number anywhere in the world, assuming that your server is accesible |
| 15:58.59 | impaktor | Hm, but calling over skype is free. Is this because they have so many other sources of revenue? |
| 15:59.14 | teriamo | skype is free but not secure,m your conversations are recorded |
| 15:59.27 | teriamo | because they sell you out to goverments, |
| 15:59.36 | impaktor | no surprise there. |
| 15:59.51 | teriamo | leanr how to set this up and free yourself |
| 15:59.54 | impaktor | I guess Google has something that can be used as well. |
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| 16:00.10 | teriamo | it wont take more than a day of your life to free yourself |
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| 16:00.29 | teriamo | google, microsoft same crap |
| 16:00.41 | leni1 | Yeah, Google does. Video calls using Hangout |
| 16:00.56 | leni1 | Its encrypted too, so no worries |
| 16:01.13 | teriamo | i setup my xmpp server, and ise it my family all the time |
| 16:01.21 | leni1 | But audio/video over the Internet is tricky to secure |
| 16:01.24 | teriamo | leni1: it is encrypted, but not to google |
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| 16:01.55 | teriamo | leni1: nothing is secure on the net to be honest, whole tls/ssl/cas etc messed up |
| 16:02.02 | teriamo | ca |
| 16:02.10 | leni1 | Exactly, so you do what you can |
| 16:02.12 | impaktor | SIP, that does audio as well. Does that also require some sip-number for $10/month? |
| 16:02.34 | teriamo | powerful actors can always jam in to your line, and mitm you |
| 16:02.42 | impaktor | Or have I misunderstood what SIP is. |
| 16:02.44 | teriamo | sip is trickier to secure |
| 16:02.49 | teriamo | xmpp is easier with jitsi |
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| 16:03.01 | teriamo | sip is for voip |
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| 16:03.27 | teriamo | i am not aware of sip providers that support xmpp, sounds doable but i have not heard it |
| 16:03.36 | teriamo | they are mostly "sip" compatible |
| 16:03.55 | teriamo | so the settings they will give you will be for sip servers |
| 16:04.07 | qman | SIP is just the protocol, phone numbers and connection to the phone network are what cost money |
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| 16:04.26 | qman | You can run a closed SIP system for free |
| 16:04.46 | teriamo | qman: that is right, I do it, my family members have "extensions" |
| 16:04.52 | impaktor | Oh dear. So wat is XMPP? |
| 16:04.58 | teriamo | however I recommedn xmpp for such purpose due to encryption |
| 16:05.18 | impaktor | And how does XMPP and VOIP and SIP relate? |
| 16:05.27 | teriamo | i found getting sip encryption work to be trick across clients |
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| 16:05.45 | teriamo | impaktor: xmppis another communication protocol |
| 16:05.55 | teriamo | jabber, google tlak etc is xmpp |
| 16:05.58 | teriamo | talk |
| 16:06.07 | qman | Yeah |
| 16:06.24 | teriamo | xmpp has video, chat, conference etc |
| 16:06.32 | teriamo | and security features |
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| 16:07.01 | teriamo | impaktor: goto ejabberds website and download the ejabberd server, you will have an xmpp server up and running in 10 min |
| 16:07.18 | teriamo | you could be the next snapchat or whatsup in no time |
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| 16:07.32 | qman | Openfire is another popular jabber server |
| 16:07.57 | impaktor | teriamo: And can me and a friend use that xmpp-server to talk to each other for free? |
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| 16:08.10 | teriamo | impaktor: you can also visit #ejabberd, there are helpful people there |
| 16:08.35 | qman | impaktor: yes |
| 16:08.35 | carandraug | hi! I'm having the weirdest problem since my last update in Debian last night (jessie). My mac address changes everytime I reboot the system |
| 16:08.37 | teriamo | impaktor: sure, there are also many xmpp clients for mobile , I use jitsi and chatsecure |
| 16:08.55 | impaktor | 26 users there. |
| 16:08.56 | teriamo | carandraug: mac address or the eth number? |
| 16:09.17 | qman | impaktor: given the cost of your network connection of course |
| 16:09.18 | carandraug | searching for this behaviour only gives me results on how to set up a random Mac address and not how to fix it. Anyone has any idea how this happened? |
| 16:09.23 | teriamo | my eth number changes since last couple days with every boot |
| 16:09.24 | carandraug | teriamo: mac address |
| 16:09.43 | impaktor | teriamo: so if I run a server, then many people can use it to call each other? |
| 16:09.44 | carandraug | teriamo: the first half of the mac address to be more exact |
| 16:10.11 | teriamo | impaktor: yes, you can either create users yourself or let them create user and talk to eachother |
| 16:10.19 | impaktor | ok |
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| 16:10.44 | teriamo | impaktor: it is pretty easy, give your self about couple hours and couple friends to test it out |
| 16:11.36 | teriamo | make sure you open the proper ports etc for xmpp server to tlak to outside, you can later enable advanced features, however videoe etc will depend on the client features, since ejabberd supports these by default |
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| 16:12.13 | impaktor | teriamo: My priority number 1 is that the person I'm calling is an idiot and knows nothing about computers, so it should be easy for them. I know I can sort complicated stuff out, given enough time. |
| 16:12.17 | teriamo | carandraug: yeah not sure why you have it? Do you have macchanger installer? Maybe it is invoked regularly? |
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| 16:12.40 | teriamo | impaktor: my 60 years old mom uses it to call me |
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| 16:12.45 | teriamo | i taught her |
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| 16:13.11 | impaktor | Person I want to call is in another country. So I need to instruct him via email or something. |
| 16:13.23 | carandraug | teriamo: I did use it a few months ago and still have it installed. I don't see how that would affect it though, specially after so long |
| 16:13.27 | teriamo | you can use nxserver |
| 16:13.28 | impaktor | And convince him why I don't use skype, like he does. |
| 16:13.30 | teriamo | secure and fast |
| 16:13.38 | teriamo | startwith teamviewer |
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| 16:13.50 | teriamo | do not use teamviewer regularly |
| 16:13.58 | carandraug | I just found an invalid bug report 3 years old about the same behaviour https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=637734 |
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| 16:14.56 | teriamo | impaktor: my mom lives in another country and we talk over video chat all the time |
| 16:15.10 | teriamo | it might take couple practices to get that person get used to it |
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| 16:16.03 | teriamo | ejabberd debian installation is straight forward, install it, then run ./ejabbardctl start in the bin directory. then go read tutorials and the documentation |
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| 16:17.24 | impaktor | Ha! It uses Erlang. |
| 16:17.35 | teriamo | yeah |
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| 16:18.02 | teriamo | it has a web interface, once it is up, use it to create your users |
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| 16:20.21 | impaktor | Hm, jitsi isn't a program, but something that turns your browser into a video thingy? Oh, dear. So much confusion. |
| 16:20.30 | teriamo | impaktor: no |
| 16:20.38 | teriamo | that is another implementation they do |
| 16:20.44 | teriamo | you want jitsi download |
| 16:20.44 | shay_shay_ | afidegnum: but yeah anyways setting the boot flag was mostly to tell windows 7 startup repair what to do |
| 16:20.51 | Psy-Q | didn't follow the start of the discussion, but you can video chat without installing extra software on meet.jit.si |
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| 16:20.58 | teriamo | do not worry about that, hitsi actually an application |
| 16:21.03 | Psy-Q | if they have chrome/ium, that should work |
| 16:21.07 | shay_shay_ | oh hes gone |
| 16:21.17 | teriamo | Psy-Q: he is trying to setup his own server |
| 16:21.21 | impaktor | I can use ejabberd+ekiga instead? |
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| 16:21.30 | Psy-Q | teriamo: ah. that part of jit.si is not finished yet |
| 16:21.32 | teriamo | impaktor: you should be able to |
| 16:21.34 | Psy-Q | they'll release it when they're done |
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| 16:21.42 | teriamo | anything that supports xmpp is good |
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| 16:22.08 | teriamo | i never used ekiga, is it fast andd good with video? |
| 16:22.09 | impaktor | teriamo: I'm not trying now, but you've convinced me I should give that a try. |
| 16:22.27 | teriamo | video performance is more of a client thing than the server |
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| 16:22.35 | impaktor | I've never used any video thingy, other than skype 3 time I think. |
| 16:22.57 | teriamo | server just lets you exchnage handshakes, routing etc, does not care what you do between eachother |
| 16:23.14 | teriamo | impaktor: do not expect skype resolutions, for npow |
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| 16:23.33 | teriamo | however i found the video/audio over jitsi to be staisfying for my needs |
| 16:23.33 | impaktor | So once there is a handshake, the communication is directly between the two computers, I assume. |
| 16:23.39 | teriamo | yeah should be |
| 16:23.49 | impaktor | teriamo: I think I'm only interested in voice. No video. |
| 16:24.04 | impaktor | That way I can call naked. That is very important. |
| 16:24.07 | impaktor | (joke) |
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| 16:24.12 | teriamo | i do not know the details of xmpp well, maybe the clients need to exchange other stuff meanwhile |
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| 16:24.26 | teriamo | sounds with jitsi is good |
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| 16:25.18 | teriamo | bear in mind that you also get text chat, chat rooms, conferencing, screensharing etc with xmpp |
| 16:25.44 | teriamo | the clients have to support them naturally |
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| 16:26.06 | teriamo | and encryption is supported in jitsi for text and media |
| 16:26.54 | impaktor | I'm root on my computer but not on my network, I hope it will work anyway. |
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| 16:28.45 | southkey | Hello, I'm trying to install Debian on a Acer Aspire V5-123. But the installer tells me that no wireless chip have been found and asks me to choose the firmware in a list or to load them from a USB drive. The wireless chips are Qualcom Atheros AR8171/8175 and AR956x. But I can't find the firmwares, I tried everything starting with ath in the list and the firmwares are not in firmware-nonfree. Where can I find these firmwares ? Th |
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| 16:31.32 | impaktor | southkey: I don't know if this is relevant to you http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=117674 |
| 16:32.01 | impaktor | Seems to be the LAN and not WiFi that is the trouble for that poster. |
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| 16:34.24 | impaktor | teriamo: watching the tutorial video now for ejabberd, they use gaijm as client, not that it matters. |
| 16:34.49 | teriamo | impaktor: yeah does not matter, i use jitsi because it is also avail on android |
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| 16:35.56 | teriamo | ejabberd is also eavial in Debian I think |
| 16:36.04 | impaktor | teriamo: OK. I don't use cell phones, so that is not important to me. |
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| 16:38.29 | impaktor | teriamo: what was the deal with asterisk? If I use ejabberd that somehow uses asterisk under the hood? Either way I need not concern/confuse myself with that right? |
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| 16:42.20 | teriamo | asterisk is for voip, ie calling real numbers and taking calls from real numbers |
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| 16:42.29 | impaktor | OK. |
| 16:42.33 | teriamo | though, ejabberd seems to support voip |
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| 16:42.53 | teriamo | so in theory you can get voip subscription and use with ejabberd, all in one, but i have not tried it |
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| 16:43.12 | teriamo | i think it is a new feature in voip |
| 16:43.26 | impaktor | Right now I'm thinking about the distinction between xmpp/jabber, xmpp, jabber. |
| 16:43.46 | teriamo | xmpp=jabber |
| 16:43.50 | impaktor | OK. |
| 16:43.59 | teriamo | just say xmpp from now on |
| 16:44.18 | teriamo | jabber was the initial body i think, it is xmpp now |
| 16:44.29 | impaktor | GNU/Linux=Linux, and RMS will be happy. not. |
| 16:44.41 | impaktor | ok |
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| 16:51.06 | hds | hello |
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| 16:51.11 | hds | I broke my debian |
| 16:51.24 | hds | first I upgrade to unstable debian |
| 16:51.33 | hds | then downgrade because gnome was not working |
| 16:51.33 | teriamo | does anone know why iceweasel use shit loads of cpu? It is like 50x worse tha chromium, slow and laggy |
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| 16:52.06 | hds | now it says: target filesystem doesnt have requested /sbin/init |
| 16:52.19 | teriamo | impaktor: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_instant_messaging_clients#XMPP-related_features |
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| 16:52.35 | hds | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:53.13 | hds | I already searched for the issue on google, make some fsck, etc, but nothing worked |
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| 16:54.12 | impaktor | hds: sounds like a live CD might come in handy. |
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| 16:54.40 | hds | what should I do with the live cd? |
| 16:54.43 | impaktor | teriamo: thanks. I don't see ekiga there. But I see Empathy. |
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| 16:54.58 | impaktor | hds: Sounds like you're system doesn't boot or? |
| 16:54.59 | hds | is there a way to repair the system without losing the /root and /home files? |
| 16:55.18 | impaktor | You should never loos your /home |
| 16:55.26 | impaktor | Then you'd be lost. |
| 16:56.06 | impaktor | hds: you don't have /home on separate partition? |
| 16:56.28 | hds | the system is booting |
| 16:56.38 | hds | I have all the files on a single partition I think |
| 16:56.40 | hds | let me see |
| 16:56.56 | hds | http://i.imgur.com/az4CG1y.png |
| 16:57.01 | hds | this is a screenshot of the issue |
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| 16:57.33 | hds | i.imgur.com/OM1G8pU.png |
| 16:57.36 | hds | those are the partitions |
| 16:57.59 | dondelelcaro | hds: that looks like the wrong filesystem, but it's hard to say |
| 16:58.06 | dondelelcaro | hds: what does ls -l /sbin/init show? |
| 16:58.17 | hds | it doesn't exists |
| 16:58.25 | hds | but /sbin |
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| 16:58.34 | dondelelcaro | hds: but /sbin does? and there are things there? |
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| 16:58.40 | hds | yes |
| 16:58.45 | hds | there are a lot of files |
| 16:58.48 | dondelelcaro | hds: cool. |
| 16:59.13 | hds | but neither /sbin/init nor /usr/bin/init doesn't exists |
| 16:59.17 | hds | exist* |
| 16:59.50 | dondelelcaro | hds: which version of Debian are you running? what does dpkg -l systemd-sysv sysvinit-core; output? |
| 17:00.32 | dondelelcaro | hds: secondly, does this computer have an internet connection? |
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| 17:00.48 | hds | * no packages found matching |
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| 17:01.02 | hds | yes, I can configure the network to have internet connection |
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| 17:01.12 | hds | I already did it, I tried some apt-get update |
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| 17:01.18 | hds | but it shows me an error |
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| 17:01.28 | hds | related to locking files |
| 17:01.34 | hds | or read only partition |
| 17:01.49 | dondelelcaro | hds: that's fine; / is read only |
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| 17:02.26 | hds | may I change that? |
| 17:02.34 | dondelelcaro | hds: does dpkg -l sysvinit; give you output? |
| 17:02.36 | dondelelcaro | hds: sure. |
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| 17:03.08 | hds | there is output witht that command |
| 17:03.12 | dondelelcaro | hds: I'm asking these questions to know which of those three packages you need to reinstall |
| 17:03.30 | hds | i.imgur.com/pdciHUR.png |
| 17:03.31 | dondelelcaro | hds: ok. do you have any sysvinit packages in /var/cache/apt/archives/sysvinit*.deb; |
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| 17:04.08 | dondelelcaro | hds: and when did this problem start happening? |
| 17:04.25 | dondelelcaro | oh. it's because you downgraded |
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| 17:04.32 | hds | yes :/ |
| 17:04.40 | dondelelcaro | heh. Yeah, that's not really supported. |
| 17:04.51 | hds | by mistake I upgrade all packages to unstable |
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| 17:05.04 | hds | then I realized the error, and I made a downgrade |
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| 17:05.10 | dondelelcaro | hds: one more question. Do you have anything in /sbin/init*? |
| 17:05.35 | hds | no, the files doesn't exists |
| 17:05.39 | hds | exist* |
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| 17:05.55 | dondelelcaro | hds: ok. |
| 17:06.08 | hds | http://i.imgur.com/E3qnQui.png |
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| 17:06.17 | hds | I have no way to copy the output directly |
| 17:06.37 | dondelelcaro | hds: anyway, mount -o remount,rw /; will make / rw. |
| 17:06.47 | dondelelcaro | hds: then you'll want to configure networking |
| 17:06.54 | hds | done |
| 17:07.03 | dondelelcaro | hds: then run apt-get --reinstall install sysvinit; |
| 17:07.14 | hds | ok, running |
| 17:07.35 | hds | there are some errors |
| 17:07.43 | hds | unmet dependencies |
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| 17:08.01 | hds | http://i.imgur.com/W68Cz3W.png |
| 17:08.09 | hds | may I try that command? apt-get -f install ? |
| 17:08.54 | dondelelcaro | sure, but it probably won't work. |
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| 17:09.55 | dondelelcaro | you can actually just download sysvinit directly, and then install it using dpkg -i and ignore those other dependencies for the time being |
| 17:09.57 | hds | it is removing a lot of packages (1.3gb) |
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| 17:10.13 | dondelelcaro | yeah, that's because downgrading rarely works properly |
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| 17:10.19 | hds | it is going to explode |
| 17:10.29 | dondelelcaro | unlikely |
| 17:11.12 | hds | let see what happen |
| 17:11.24 | hds | I am going to search the stand alone package |
| 17:12.07 | hds | thank you dondelelcaro |
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| 17:16.21 | cmyers | ok, this might sound sorta like a troll, but I have a good reason to want to know. Does anyone know how long it takes to build all of the packages in debian from source? Like, the computer time? Presumably, this happens whenever a new release is cut, right? |
| 17:16.39 | cmyers | I guess main or main + contrib? |
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| 17:21.09 | yossarianuk | given how long it takes to compile a single gentoo system I would suggest a hell of a long time .. |
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| 17:29.37 | Psy-Q | can't you distcc? |
| 17:29.56 | Psy-Q | not that i know if distcc still exists |
| 17:30.45 | somiaj | cmyers: note when the new release is finalized most of the packages have been built way before then. But I think it can take up to a day to build packages for all the arches and spread them across the main mirrors. |
| 17:31.51 | somiaj | cmyers: but yes it does take a long time (espically since they have to be compiled for multple different archetictures). But the packages are built when they are uploaded to sid and then the built packages filter to testing. So most of the packages have been built and this isn't done all at once. Note each time a bug is fixed, this does require rebuilding some packages. |
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| 17:32.36 | cmyers | somiaj: ah, so they don't have to be rebuilt, they can be moved around / renamed |
| 17:32.37 | cmyers | that's smart |
| 17:32.45 | cmyers | but unfortunate for needing to answer my question |
| 17:33.08 | cmyers | I'm writing about build times of massive scale software, and there aren't too many examples in open source. a full linux distro is one of the few |
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| 17:33.28 | cmyers | I could maybe use gentoo as an example, folks are maybe more likely to know build times for that, but people don't often install every package I think. |
| 17:34.04 | cmyers | thanks for the answer though! =D |
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| 17:46.32 | zaxon | cmyers, other softwasres that take ages to compile are LibreOffice, FireFox, and Android |
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| 17:47.17 | cmyers | zaxon: awesome, I will check out the build times for those - I don't really consider firefox to be "massive scale", but I could see open office getting close since it is several applications. |
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| 17:47.43 | cmyers | I wonder if their builds are slow due to how much code there is, or because they aren't well optimized? |
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| 17:48.58 | zaxon | cmyers, also look for software that does not use precompiled headers / pch |
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| 17:49.41 | zaxon | well, reason is mainly the amount of code and the infrasturcture (ccache and the like) |
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| 17:50.45 | impaktor | teriamo: I now have a running ejabberd server. Now to understand how to use it. |
| 17:51.08 | zaxon | cmyers, what is the real question, what are you trying to achieve |
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| 17:51.36 | impaktor | I guess I should create a second account, for my friend. |
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| 17:52.15 | cmyers | zaxon: some examples like "X is a codebase with Y million lines of code that takes Z time to build" |
| 17:52.34 | cmyers | knowing Y is nice, but not really as important as knowing X, Z |
| 17:53.10 | zaxon | cmyers, why are you looking for those examples |
| 17:53.10 | cmyers | (also, slightly OT except for debian is a probable example of such a thing) |
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| 17:53.21 | cmyers | writing blogz pontificating on software engineering |
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| 17:54.06 | cmyers | specifically, my thoughts are that at certain scales, build times get completely out of control without some reasonable package management (which debian, fortunately, has) |
| 17:54.15 | cmyers | if you had to build the entire thing in one go, it'd be pretty insane. |
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| 17:54.20 | zaxon | pontificating on development, while holding naive and incorrect assumptions about compilation, that's not going to be good |
| 17:54.31 | AnimalFarmPig | anyone know off the top of the head, does NFSv3 on Debian work over TCP or UDP by default? I never really thought about it before, just curious now |
| 17:54.42 | cmyers | ohrly? my views are naive and my assumptions are incorrect? |
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| 17:54.46 | cmyers | please edumacate me |
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| 17:55.26 | rebauld | he can't |
| 17:55.39 | rebauld | is insinuation is without merit |
| 17:56.07 | zaxon | 1. assuming that debian is compiled in one go, rather than each souerce package separately |
| 17:56.25 | cmyers | I didn't assume that, I asked what it would be like if that were the case. |
| 17:56.49 | zaxon | 2. assuming that compilation is more influenced by some kind of 'optimization' (except for cases like pch) without looking at the main factors like codebase size and cache |
| 17:56.51 | cmyers | I'm trying to make a point about the importance of package management and well-factored codebases - and using debian as an example of what is good. |
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| 17:57.17 | cmyers | 2. compile time is aboslutely influenced by optimization - optimization of code structure and build tools and utilizing things like parallelism |
| 17:57.22 | cmyers | I don't mean -O3, asshole |
| 17:57.36 | fudbuster | .oO(reading comprehension is hard, i guess...) |
| 17:57.41 | cmyers | apparently. |
| 17:57.42 | zaxon | cmyers, 2. is not going to influence compilation, it only influences runtime, and arguably so |
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| 17:59.09 | rebauld | cmyers: you really have no clue ... case closed |
| 17:59.18 | zaxon | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:59.18 | cmyers | anyways, thanks to all for the useful pointers. I appreciate it. |
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| 17:59.52 | zaxon | cmyers, mind the language, I did not attack anyone, just pointed out your lack of background |
| 17:59.59 | cmyers | mhmm. |
| 18:00.15 | cmyers | what do you know about my background? |
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| 18:00.25 | rebauld | cmyers: you can't compile "all at once" things depend on other things - check out lfs/blfs and see what is really involved |
| 18:00.28 | cmyers | are you google-stalking me? |
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| 18:00.37 | cmyers | I didn't say "all at once", I said "all in one go" |
| 18:00.39 | cmyers | as in, serially |
| 18:00.47 | zaxon | your questions reveal a lot of your background |
| 18:00.48 | cmyers | really people? reading comprehension IS hard |
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| 18:01.08 | rebauld | pushes cmyers into #ubuntu |
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| 18:01.39 | cmyers | burn on #ubuntu, I guess? |
| 18:02.13 | TwoWholeWorms | Does anyone know if the fixes from OpenSSH 6.2 for the LoginGraceTime DOS vulnerability have been patched into the 6.0 version in Debian's repositories? http://web.nvd.nist.gov/view/vuln/detail?vulnId=CVE-2010-5107 |
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| 18:02.31 | manfoo7 | Hi, I am not sure if it is the right place to ask about touchscreen support in Debian? |
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| 18:04.12 | AnimalFarmPig | manfoo7: it's been a while, but I've run touchscreens on debian |
| 18:04.21 | TwoWholeWorms | Oh, looks like it was: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2010-5107 |
| 18:04.57 | AnimalFarmPig | manfoo7: used a couple different vendors, never had any problems. Plug in, calibrate, and go |
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| 18:06.16 | manfoo7 | AnimalFarmPig: I am a computer scientist and all my colleagues use mac pros, I think I am the last resistant |
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| 18:06.54 | manfoo7 | AnimalFarmPig: But I envy them because of the Mac Pro weight and battery life |
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| 18:07.13 | AnimalFarmPig | manfoo7: ahhh... I don't know about touchscreen laptops with multitouch and fancy features |
| 18:07.18 | cmyers | debian can be made to run on a macbook, I believe. not sure if the batterlife is as good, but you at least get teh weight/great keyboard/etc |
| 18:07.33 | AnimalFarmPig | I was working on info kiosks, digital signage, and such with industrial touchscreens |
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| 18:09.19 | manfoo7 | Well, if you have any advice for hardware, it is welcome. I am considering the Asus Taichi |
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| 18:10.36 | jelly-home | cmyers: take a look at the builds llvm people do -- they test rebuilding the whole archive with llvm/clang instead of gcc every couple months |
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| 18:10.48 | AnimalFarmPig | I haven't been very impressed with touchscreen in any linux desktop environment. Not very usable in anything I've tried |
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| 18:11.02 | Luizluz | is there anyone here that knows about jpos emv ? |
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| 18:11.34 | cmyers | jelly-home: awesome, that will be a good resource, thx |
| 18:12.16 | manfoo7 | AnimalFarmPig: I won't be using touchscreen often. In fact I use tiling window manager for my work. |
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| 18:12.36 | manfoo7 | AnimalFarmPig: It will only be to take some notes or draw some sketches |
| 18:12.55 | jelly-home | cmyers: http://clang.debian.net/ |
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| 18:13.11 | cmyers | awesome! |
| 18:13.39 | jelly-home | while their focus isn't time spent, that info will probably be extracable from full logs |
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| 18:15.29 | jelly-home | cmyers: or just grab logs from normal buildds for the source packages you're interested in. Building on mipsel and armel will be slower than amd64. |
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| 18:16.03 | Gatis | Hi :) |
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| 18:17.05 | Azman | hi all |
| 18:17.24 | Azman | can anyone tell me how i can find out what shell im running in a script, i want to know what /bin/sh is |
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| 18:19.05 | Brigo | Azman, ls -l /bin/sh, it is a link |
| 18:19.34 | asandweech | Wouldn't 'echo $0' work as well? |
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| 18:20.01 | Brigo | asandweech, may be, not sure. |
| 18:20.09 | rebauld | jelly-home: why would you help someone who calls someone here an 'asshole' for no reason? |
| 18:20.13 | IonCannon|webcb | I'm having issues with network bridges |
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| 18:20.58 | IonCannon|webcb | virtual machines attached to the bridge will not connect to the internet through a pfsense VM |
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| 18:21.14 | IonCannon|webcb | its not pfsense at all. physical machine can go through it just fine |
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| 18:24.19 | klys | do you have iptables configured for masquerading? |
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| 18:27.05 | Azman | is it possible i have anything except bash and dash installed? |
| 18:27.54 | LeelooMinai | Any tips/advice for remote desktop access to a debian machine without monitor attached? Right now I have x11 vnc server, but not sure if I can get out of it higher resolution than what it is now (1024 I think) |
| 18:28.09 | jelly-home | rebauld: because people are fallible. They may use heated language when provoked, but it doesn't mean they can't be reasoned with at all. |
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| 18:28.46 | LeelooMinai | MY VNC client also tends to grab my mouse now an then and I have to restart it. |
| 18:29.08 | LeelooMinai | Any alternatives to my setup, that would work? |
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| 18:29.29 | IonCannon|webcb | No one know about bridges? |
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| 18:30.19 | compman | Azman: /etc/shells lists "valid login shells". I don't know if that covers all the shells installed on the system, but it's a starting point. |
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| 18:31.36 | compman | LeelooMinai: I use one that's completely virtual, i.e. doesn't matter about the monitor, can set any resolution you want. If I recall correctly, it's called tightvncserver. |
| 18:31.49 | jelly-home | rebauld: https://freenode.net/catalysts.shtml |
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| 18:32.09 | LeelooMinai | compman: Right, I will try that indead, thx |
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| 18:32.18 | rebauld | Azman: you can add any shell you want - there are tons |
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| 18:33.18 | AnimalFarmPig | IonCannon|webcb: what do you need to know about bridges? |
| 18:33.36 | IonCannon|webcb | AnimalFarmPig: you're in here too |
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| 18:34.13 | AnimalFarmPig | IonCannon|webcb: I came in here to ask something about NFS, but people were arguing about compiling and optimizing or something |
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| 18:49.56 | jmd | What packages do I need to install to play the stuff at http://b |
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| 18:50.22 | jmd | http://audio-video.gnu.org |
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| 18:52.14 | jelly-home | jmd: most video players will play .ogv. Try vlc. |
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| 18:52.52 | jmd | Shame it can't play straight from the browser. |
| 18:53.32 | lrvick | close |
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| 18:53.49 | jelly-home | jmd: chrome, and maybe chromium, will probably play .webm |
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| 18:54.04 | jelly-home | chrome's not in debian tho |
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| 18:54.49 | jelly-home | copying the URL to open it as a stream in vlc shouldn't be too hard |
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| 19:00.17 | rebauld_ | jmd the mplayer plugin for firefox should work |
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| 19:20.38 | sebasgottgarzon | Hello people, |
| 19:20.53 | sebasgottgarzon | I need some help if you don't mind |
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| 19:21.46 | sebasgottgarzon | I'm trying to use a qic80 IDE tape drive on debian 2.2 potato |
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| 19:22.37 | sebasgottgarzon | Does anyone know about tape drives? |
| 19:23.24 | compman | I'm not sure if anyone uses tape drives any more... |
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| 19:26.04 | DustyDin1o | ich |
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| 19:26.22 | sebasgottgarzon | I know its is old stuff but I need to make it work |
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| 19:26.48 | sebasgottgarzon | DustyDin1o, do you know? |
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| 19:27.35 | DustyDin1o | nope, wrong window |
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| 19:33.23 | nwe | hello, any good idea how I can use d-i preseed/late_command to download my authorized_keys file? |
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| 19:34.44 | nwe | I try this d-i preseed/late_command string -in-traget mkdir /target/home/<user>/.ssh/ \ |
| 19:35.14 | nwe | wget -O /target/home/<user>/.ssh/authorized_keys http://domain.com/auth_keys.txt... |
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| 19:37.29 | Iridos | I don't think anyone uses debian potato anymore, either |
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| 19:38.24 | kRush | looking at tcpdump, my server asks DNS for its own domain every minute, how do I find out why/what process is doing that? |
| 19:38.36 | Brigo | Iridos, i know one :) |
| 19:38.48 | Iridos | yes, the guy from above |
| 19:39.08 | Brigo | ah, yes :) |
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| 19:40.40 | zerodrama | anyone know of a good twitter client that uses QT and can delete tweets? |
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| 19:45.27 | jmd | zerodrama: The best twitter client is one that avoids it altogether. |
| 19:45.37 | zerodrama | :) |
| 19:45.57 | zerodrama | that's what i need |
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| 19:52.38 | akkad | is there a way to prevent "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -plow unattended-upgrades" from requiring human input? |
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| 19:58.02 | asterismo | hi |
| 19:58.21 | asterismo | i installed another kernel in my remote server but after reboot it boots in the same kernel as before |
| 19:58.41 | asterismo | how do i make it boot the other kernel, can i specify that in grub or something? |
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| 20:01.46 | Brigo | asterismo, the default behaviour is to boot from the last kernel installed. |
| 20:01.54 | Brigo | it can be selected in grub |
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| 20:05.01 | zerodrama | Brigo: isn't there a setting in grub? |
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| 20:05.13 | zerodrama | grub.cfg i mean |
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| 20:05.26 | Brigo | Zerock, /etc/defaults/grub |
| 20:05.48 | zerodrama | okies |
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| 20:09.12 | blocky | if i want to use ffmpeg on jessie, how hard is it to install without breaking libav? |
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| 20:12.27 | blocky | or alternately, what is the best way to convert mp3 to aac? |
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| 20:14.35 | ompaul | blocky: you have to ask apt-get install that |
| 20:14.45 | ompaul | if it says no you don't go |
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| 20:21.30 | blocky | debian doesn't allow ffmpeg, right? |
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| 20:29.23 | teraflops | blocky: well, I have ffmpg installed |
| 20:29.29 | teraflops | from the repos |
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| 20:30.31 | rebauld_ | from source |
| 20:31.22 | teraflops | rebauld_: what do you mean? |
| 20:31.42 | rebauld_ | i mean -> from source |
| 20:32.13 | teraflops | rebauld_: yep, heh, but you mean it can be installed from repos? |
| 20:32.20 | teraflops | cant* |
| 20:34.40 | teraflops | i have http://ix.io/far |
| 20:36.21 | jhutchins | teraflops: Yes, you can install ffmpeg from the standard debian repos. dmm also builds it. |
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| 20:36.53 | rebauld | ffmpeg is a continuous work in progress - i do it from git |
| 20:37.44 | teraflops | rebauld: that's a server, for upstream on my workstation I do not use debian |
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| 20:43.19 | Loshki | blocky: dunno about "best", but ffmpeg -i <input.mp3> <output.aac> works on my Ubuntu system. |
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| 20:49.34 | ggoes | Hey, everyone. I'm in the process of putting Squeeze on my laptop. I accidentally closed the lid during the install and now the screen didn't come back on when it was reopened. The hard drive activity light is still blinking, so I think it's still installing and not trying to suspend -- but I still can't see anything. Is there something I can type into another console to try and activate the screen again? |
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| 21:26.51 | marioxcc | Hello. I have installed LXC in wheezy, but lxc-start fails to start the container, warning about missing cgroupos, lxc-checkconfig says "namespace: CONFIG_CGROUP_NSmissing" |
| 21:26.54 | marioxcc | what should I do? |
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| 21:27.43 | marioxcc | http://paste.debian.net/131675/ |
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| 21:34.52 | JimmyGulp | odd question, did an apt-get dist-upgrade, and zoneminder is being peculiar. the mysql password is being changed by the apt-get process, so it fails, what would cause this to happen? (zoneminder is the only thing being processed) |
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| 21:36.10 | marioxcc | In aptitude, when I mark a package for installation some others are automatically marked, which is right, but when I unmark them, how can I mark them again so that they're installed but as automatically marked? |
| 21:37.50 | Arrowmaster | marioxcc: you can use m and shift-m to toggle if a package is marked as automatically installed |
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| 21:38.18 | marioxcc | Arrowmaster: thanks you |
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| 21:40.16 | marioxcc | Apart from the -R switch from command line, how can I mark a package for installation without installing its recommendations? |
| 21:40.22 | marioxcc | that is is, how can I do so interactively? |
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| 21:40.54 | nkuttler | marioxcc: isn't there something like --no-recommends? |
| 21:41.02 | nkuttler | errr |
| 21:41.05 | nkuttler | never mind |
| 21:42.09 | marioxcc | nkuttler: thanks nonetheless :) |
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| 21:45.24 | variuss | how should i set ext2 /boot in etc/fstab? |
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| 21:47.00 | marioxcc | variuss: do "man fstab" and take a look at /etc/fstab |
| 21:47.32 | marioxcc | also, ext2 has been obsoleted since quite a lot of time |
| 21:47.44 | marioxcc | I think that you can upgrade it easiliy to ext4 |
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| 21:57.03 | jhutchins | I have something very strange going on. I created a symlink to a directory in another directory. When I try to remove it, it says "Is a directory" and won't. When I try to move it, it says "Not a directory" |
| 21:57.14 | marioxcc | how can I enable cgroups so that lxc works in debian 7? |
| 21:57.16 | marioxcc | http://paste.debian.net/131675/ |
| 21:57.21 | jhutchins | You can't hard-link a directory, right? |
| 21:58.14 | Brigo | marioxcc, you have to mount it. |
| 21:58.22 | marioxcc | Brigo: I tried to, but I get: |
| 21:58.32 | marioxcc | "mount: special device cgroup does not exist" |
| 21:59.24 | marioxcc | jhutchins: I think that I have read that it might be possibly, but its normally not allowed |
| 21:59.30 | marioxcc | jhutchins: what did you do, "rm DIR"? |
| 21:59.45 | marioxcc | don't insert a trailing "/" |
| 21:59.56 | marioxcc | that will make rm try to deference the link |
| 22:00.15 | rebauld | rm DIR ain't getting nothing done anyway - it is rmdir or rm -rf |
| 22:00.39 | Brigo | marioxcc, http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21337522/trying-to-use-cgroups-in-debian-wheezy-and-no-daemons |
| 22:00.57 | marioxcc | Brigo: I will take a look, thanks |
| 22:01.05 | marioxcc | rebauld: he wants to remove a symlink, it seems |
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| 22:01.40 | rebauld | sorry then rm symlink will work ;) |
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| 22:05.32 | marioxcc | Brigo: hmm, that don't seems to concern LXC |
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| 22:15.12 | iio7 | I am on Debian Jessie, I have removed systemd, and now I cannot print from evince or anything else. I get this error about freedesktop.dbus: http://pastebin.com/kddrfFSq |
| 22:15.35 | iio7 | What am I missing? And don't say systemd! |
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| 22:16.34 | iio7 | Cups is clearly seen the printer. |
| 22:16.40 | iio7 | seing |
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| 22:17.08 | rebauld | is the printer on? ls > /dev/lp0 ;) |
| 22:17.22 | iio7 | no, the printer is a network printer |
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| 22:18.36 | jhutchins | Problem was tab completion was appending the / - without it rm worked fine. |
| 22:18.56 | marioxcc | jhutchins: yes, I told you, but I think that you missed my message |
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| 22:19.54 | jhutchins | iio7: You might ask in #debian-next on oftc.net if you don't find anybody here who knows. |
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| 22:21.59 | iio7 | jhutchins, thanks |
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| 22:24.43 | marioxcc | jhutchins: by the way, a trailing â/â is also meaningful for rsync |
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| 22:25.32 | jhutchins | marioxcc: Yep. Wonderful how many ways you can mess up an rsync command. |
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| 22:27.00 | marioxcc | jhutchins: indeed. I think that a program must limit itself to extract path information from paths, and the behavior of whether to deference or not should be specified by switches, but well, that's the way it is (though you can patch the programs, but it may break others, which you'd have to patch too). |
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| 22:30.51 | Jedi|Yoda | what are the ipees that debian uses for apt-get |
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| 22:33.55 | jhutchins | !mirrors |
| 22:33.56 | dpkg | Debian mirror sites are listed at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list and ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt and http://deb.li/map ; ask me about <apt-spy>, <netselect-apt>, <http.debian.net>, <debian mirror checker>. To make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ ; see also <debmirror>, <apt-mirror>, <ftpsync>, <mirror size>. #debian-mirrors on irc.oftc.net. |
| 22:34.14 | Jedi|Yoda | lets see |
| 22:34.15 | Jedi|Yoda | 140.211.15.34,150.203.164.38,200.17.202.197,5.153.231.4,128.31.0.62,130.89.148.14 |
| 22:34.19 | Jedi|Yoda | oeps |
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| 22:34.37 | jhutchins | Jedi|Yoda: Usually better to use the hostname to allow dynamic allocation. |
| 22:34.50 | Jedi|Yoda | i see |
| 22:34.59 | Jedi|Yoda | i tried it with code.bitlbee.org |
| 22:35.06 | Jedi|Yoda | but somehow :( it doesnt wanna connect :D |
| 22:35.30 | wkd | I'm trying to edit pages in my www through samba which is accessed over openvpn, I've set the chgrp and owner to www-data and set chmod to 775, added a user to group www-data... if I set the permission 000 I can't access it accross samba, if I set it 775 I can access but it won't save the edited work... any ideas on what I'm doing wrong? |
| 22:36.02 | jhutchins | Jedi|Yoda: What about ftp.us.debian.org? |
| 22:38.57 | nwe | how can I download my authorized_keys via preseed-installer? |
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| 22:39.14 | marioxcc | nwe: do you mean, for network installation? |
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| 22:39.45 | Jedi|Yoda | iptables v1.4.14: host/network `cdn.debian.org' not found |
| 22:39.49 | Jedi|Yoda | what just happend :D |
| 22:40.01 | Jedi|Yoda | since my sources list using http://cdn.debian.org :D |
| 22:40.21 | Jedi|Yoda | sorry its .net not org |
| 22:40.22 | Jedi|Yoda | my bad |
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| 22:40.35 | nwe | marioxcc: yeah |
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| 22:40.48 | marioxcc | nwe: I don't know, but you can set the password |
| 22:41.08 | nwe | I have try this.. d-i preseed/late_command string in-target /bin/sh -c 'wget -O /home/ansible/.ssh/authorized_keys 192.168.1.1/auth.txt |
| 22:42.05 | marioxcc | nwe: that seems quite terrible |
| 22:42.21 | marioxcc | it's open to man in the middle attacks |
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| 22:42.37 | marioxcc | ideally you would embeed the key in the installer image, I don't know how to do that |
| 22:42.46 | marioxcc | but you can easily embeed a password in the preseed file with |
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| 22:43.02 | marioxcc | "network-console/password" and "network-console/password-again" (it must match) |
| 22:43.36 | marioxcc | nwe: check https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Remote |
| 22:43.46 | nwe | marioxcc: okey |
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| 22:44.35 | marioxcc | nwe: again, I don't know how to embeed a key, but if you want to do that, I think that you'd have to put it in a initrd image, before building the installer |
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| 22:44.50 | marioxcc | nwe: sorry, I mean, so that it will be in the intird image before you build it |
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| 22:47.02 | Jedi|Yoda | anyone wants to share their sources.list ? |
| 22:47.16 | teraflops | why? |
| 22:47.25 | Jedi|Yoda | no idea |
| 22:47.30 | teraflops | heh |
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| 22:49.57 | jhutchins | !sources |
| 22:49.57 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 7 "Wheezy" has three lines: "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main" "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <wheezy/updates> <wheezy-updates> <mirrors> <apt-spy> and "man sources.list". |
| 22:55.06 | klys | problem with `recordmydesktop' package (and recordmydesktop-gtk) as v0.3.8.1 will not accept resolutions larger than 130x98 (dist: wheezy, kernel 3.2.0-4-686-pae, xen 4.1.5, dom0 2.6.32.43-0.4.1) |
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| 22:56.38 | klys | (Xorg 1.12.4) |
| 22:56.47 | teraflops | klys: 130x98? |
| 22:57.36 | klys | yes, for recordmydesktop --width 130 --height 98 (pixels) |
| 22:59.03 | klys | is there another package which does the same thing? |
| 22:59.19 | klys | I would specifically like one that can stream to a socket |
| 22:59.55 | horsik | avconv most likely |
| 22:59.57 | teraflops | klys: uhm may be it is the time (12 AM here) but 130x98 px is 3,4 cms |
| 23:00.39 | teraflops | what desktop is 130x98? a casio phone? |
| 23:01.39 | teraflops | klys: avconv/ffmpeg as horsik says |
| 23:02.07 | klys | it's a pretty serious bug |
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| 23:02.16 | teraflops | ah bug .. |
| 23:02.18 | klys | my desktop was 1024x768 |
| 23:02.21 | teraflops | heh i was afraid |
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| 23:02.53 | teraflops | klys: avconf/ffmpg do the work flawlesly also you can select the sound sink |
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| 23:05.58 | jak2000 | how to setting a static ip on a network card? with command ip? |
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| 23:08.43 | darkice42 | dont use ip just edit /etc/network/interfaces |
| 23:08.59 | abrotman | you can use ip |
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| 23:09.09 | darkice42 | I know but this is easier |
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| 23:09.27 | darkice42 | I think a tutorial is on the debian wiki |
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| 23:23.19 | klys | horsik, teraflops, thanks. I'm going to need a commandline |
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| 23:29.21 | bravvve22 | i still have at "gnu.io.CommPortIdentifier.<clinit>" error when traing to run arduino testing program under netbeans,any idea |
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| 23:35.05 | teraflops | klys: sure there are a bunch of ffmpeg x11grab lines over the internet, i can share mine also but it works _here_ |
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| 23:36.53 | klys | well idc. where it works, I just want your command. |
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| 23:44.18 | teraflops | klys: http://ix.io/faI |
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| 23:46.13 | klys | tyvm. |
| 23:46.44 | teraflops | np klys just if wanna test fix the file location, im spanish |
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| 23:56.19 | yuv | hi. I have updated my system and now on boot I am waiting 1min 30s for two external drives specified in my fstab that aren't connected |
| 23:56.41 | yuv | before there was no wait, which was convenient for me. how do I solve this without adding the noauto setting? |
| 23:57.25 | mtn | yuv: updated your system how? |
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