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| 00:29.06 | phox | ok, if I have package authentication failing, where is it getting the signature? from within the .deb or by e.g. appending .asc to the package URL or what's the story? want to pick this apart to diagnose wth is wrong... |
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| 00:37.18 | phox | don't make me UTSL :( |
| 00:37.40 | Brigo | phox, try install debian-archive-keyring |
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| 00:38.01 | dvs | phox: Paste the error message you're getting in a pastebin |
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| 00:39.34 | rebauld_ | utsl ? undress to socks and leotards? |
| 00:39.47 | dvs | O_O |
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| 00:40.43 | jelly-home | phox: Release files and their .gpg signatures are downloaded from repos into /var/lib/apt/lists/ |
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| 00:41.51 | phox | jelly-home: ok, is the sig file just s/$/.gpg/ or s/.deb/.gpg/ or something? what's the convention and is it robust or can people do whatever? |
| 00:42.18 | Brigo | phox, ls /var/lib/apt/lists/ and you will see |
| 00:42.29 | jelly-home | phox: try wiping /var/lib/apt/lists/{,partial/}*_* and doing an aptitude update again. |
| 00:42.34 | phox | jelly-home: as that's how I'd prefer to diagnose this. I'm getting the usual 'WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated!' |
| 00:42.45 | phox | ok, will try that. |
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| 00:43.07 | rryoumaa | in the installer, when downloading packages, does going back or hitting alt tab have the same effect as installing everything? for some reason it is installing all of gnome even though it never ran tasksel. |
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| 00:44.32 | Brigo | phox, try ls -l /etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d/ too, and see the description of the package i said before. |
| 00:45.37 | phox | Brigo: this is not vanilla Debian. just working to sort out how to diagnose what Apt is actually finding to be the error. it doesn't seem to go fetch anything, it just complains... : |
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| 00:50.40 | Arven | I'm looking for a way to get autofs to determine what hosts are available on my network, preferably with the existing DNS |
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| 00:51.49 | rjsalts | Arven: autofs just mounts file systems on demand, it doesn't have anything to do with discovering hosts |
| 00:52.28 | Arven | rjsalts: there's a map entry "/net -hosts", I am aware that it doesn't discover hosts but I can't figure out how to add hosts |
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| 00:55.13 | Arven | rjsalts: now I feel dumb... there's just no directory listing |
| 00:55.36 | rjsalts | Arven: read man auto.master |
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| 00:56.26 | rjsalts | Arven: but basically cd /net/hostname/ should give you a list of all the exports from hostname |
| 00:56.39 | Arven | right, I've discovered that... |
| 00:57.29 | Arven | exporting / doesn't appear to work though |
| 00:59.59 | Arven | rjsalts: It still does not seem to work quite right... I get a "/export" export, but the only directory under that is "data" |
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| 01:04.47 | HappyNewYear13 | when i see the info in the properties of my wireless it says Speed 18Mb/s. but different computer connected to same modem always said 54Mb/s. is it a driver problem? |
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| 01:14.53 | HappyNewYear13 | who can help me |
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| 01:15.04 | rebauld_ | 54MB sounds like the 'ad rate' the 18MB is pretty good |
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| 01:15.48 | HappyNewYear13 | rebauld_, what s ad rate, my modem's max speed? |
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| 01:17.05 | HappyNewYear13 | rebauld_, im worried my ISP raises my speed for example, from 15M to 20M and my wireless won't fullfill it |
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| 01:18.12 | rebauld_ | don't lose sleep worrying okay ? promise me? |
| 01:18.19 | HappyNewYear13 | lmao |
| 01:18.41 | HappyNewYear13 | sometimes i live in the future, you know |
| 01:19.05 | rebauld_ | woulsn't that be 15 then and not 13? |
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| 01:19.49 | HappyNewYear13 | rebauld_, it's the speed see when i click on my wireless properties, not my speed measured online |
| 01:20.44 | rebauld_ | what is the speed you are paying for on the modem |
| 01:21.01 | HappyNewYear13 | 15M |
| 01:21.18 | rebauld_ | pretty nice |
| 01:21.32 | HappyNewYear13 | but another computer wireless said 54Mb/s all the time. what were those 54Mb/s |
| 01:21.48 | HappyNewYear13 | in the wireless properties, again |
| 01:21.53 | rebauld_ | yea the 'ad rate' was it a windows computer? |
| 01:22.03 | HappyNewYear13 | no, linux |
| 01:22.11 | rebauld_ | there is a pretty good program rutilt that show stuffs - db level etc |
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| 01:22.36 | rebauld_ | link quality and speed |
| 01:23.01 | rebauld_ | and gkrellm will accurately show wireless speed |
| 01:23.10 | HappyNewYear13 | i was thinking it's a driver problem |
| 01:23.43 | rebauld_ | get curl and download something big it will show you speed - best to connect to a local uni |
| 01:23.45 | HappyNewYear13 | it's a new laptop so maybe new kernel 3.17 will solve it |
| 01:24.16 | rebauld_ | the bottleneck is usually the 'isp/modem' not the wireless |
| 01:24.33 | HappyNewYear13 | rebauld_, but i don't have problems with my speed. i always get 15M both computers. it's just the info fro the wireless card says 18Mb/s |
| 01:24.52 | HappyNewYear13 | other computer was 54Mb/s |
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| 01:25.10 | rebauld_ | hands HappyNewYear13 a magic marker to write 54Mb/s over the 18MB/s on his screen |
| 01:25.18 | HappyNewYear13 | for example my ethernet connected says 100Mb/s all the time |
| 01:25.30 | HappyNewYear13 | rebauld_, :P |
| 01:25.33 | rebauld_ | a new computer with a 100Mb? |
| 01:25.53 | rebauld_ | you should get gbit on new computer since 1999??? |
| 01:26.00 | HappyNewYear13 | same computer but through ethernet cable. the info says 100Mb/s |
| 01:26.33 | dvs | rebauld_: if its a laptop... |
| 01:26.36 | rebauld_ | dude i am on an aol dialup at 56K so ... |
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| 01:26.51 | HappyNewYear13 | rebauld_, that can't be true |
| 01:27.21 | rebauld_ | dvs laptops are all gbit too .. right |
| 01:27.50 | dvs | rebauld_: maybe now. I bought mine three years ago and it's 100Mb |
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| 01:28.14 | rebauld_ | dvs probably the modem is 100Mb no need for gbit on it for sure |
| 01:28.15 | HappyNewYear13 | 100Mb/s was old laptop 6-7 years old |
| 01:28.28 | HappyNewYear13 | havent tested this one i bought a week ago |
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| 01:29.25 | HappyNewYear13 | it worries me the 18Mb/s. so old laptop shows 54Mb/s wireless and this one much newer 18Mb/s. again not speed meadured online, but cards info |
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| 01:29.51 | HappyNewYear13 | it must be a driver problem |
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| 01:30.48 | rebauld_ | how could you be getting 54Mb/s when you said you only pay for 18-24 |
| 01:31.27 | HappyNewYear13 | rebauld_, i didn't test it. it the info, like when i see my ethernet it says 100Mb/s. i pay and get 15Mn |
| 01:31.28 | Devastator | he means the wireless speed |
| 01:31.31 | rebauld_ | old one was reading mfg specs and new one is correct |
| 01:32.50 | HappyNewYear13 | im cool now. but the future worries me |
| 01:32.55 | Devastator | HappyNewYear13 the 54Mb/s you see is the speed between your laptop and router, not your internet speed |
| 01:33.06 | HappyNewYear13 | Devastator, yeah |
| 01:33.26 | HappyNewYear13 | Devastator, why this brand new laptop says 18Mb/s? |
| 01:34.01 | Devastator | HappyNewYear13 is your router configured to N? |
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| 01:34.31 | HappyNewYear13 | so my isp improves my plan to 20Mb/s tomorrow and i'll only get 18Mb/s |
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| 01:35.03 | Devastator | that's different |
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| 01:35.14 | HappyNewYear13 | Devastator, you mean n as in 802 g/n/c or something? |
| 01:35.20 | Devastator | yes |
| 01:35.44 | HappyNewYear13 | what's different? you think i'lll still get 20Mb/s in that case? |
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| 01:37.32 | Devastator | to get high wireless rates you have to setup both router and wireless card properly |
| 01:37.59 | Devastator | do you use WPA2-AES PSK algorithm for the wireless password? |
| 01:38.40 | HappyNewYear13 | WPA/WPA2 AES |
| 01:38.59 | Devastator | use wpa2-aes only |
| 01:39.06 | HappyNewYear13 | sorry WPA2 AES |
| 01:39.21 | Devastator | and what is the wireless mode? g only? |
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| 01:39.59 | HappyNewYear13 | modem settings say nothing about G or N. only about the rates, some are auto. could i change it to 54? |
| 01:40.10 | HappyNewYear13 | force it to 54 |
| 01:40.22 | Devastator | no, what's your modem? |
| 01:40.54 | Devastator | I mean, you can, but don't |
| 01:42.40 | HappyNewYear13 | motorola svg2501 |
| 01:43.01 | HappyNewYear13 | oldr laptop connected to it showed 54Mb/s all the time |
| 01:43.14 | HappyNewYear13 | so i dont want to change anything |
| 01:43.21 | HappyNewYear13 | but if i have to.... |
| 01:43.38 | Devastator | what's the wireless card on the new one? |
| 01:44.31 | HappyNewYear13 | Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8723BE PCIe Wireless Network Adapter |
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| 01:46.56 | Devastator | HappyNewYear13 and it's running debian, right? |
| 01:47.11 | HappyNewYear13 | modem options say for "54g Mode": 54g auto, 54g performance, 54g LRS, 802.11b only |
| 01:47.24 | HappyNewYear13 | im on ubuntu now |
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| 01:48.15 | HappyNewYear13 | i asked on ubuntu but no on replied to me |
| 01:48.31 | HappyNewYear13 | but it's not really an OS problem |
| 01:48.54 | HappyNewYear13 | more like a driver problem. they are released with the kernels right? |
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| 01:49.13 | Devastator | for me it's some configuration in your card or router |
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| 01:49.36 | Devastator | see if you find a way to set your card in g mode only |
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| 01:50.53 | HappyNewYear13 | you said i better don't change my outer settings, why not |
| 01:50.57 | HappyNewYear13 | router |
| 01:51.39 | Devastator | by forcing rate to 54 you can make the situation worse |
| 01:51.47 | HappyNewYear13 | ok |
| 01:52.37 | HappyNewYear13 | there's just some basic wireless configuration but nothing about g or n. maybe i need to do some research to update a file or similar |
| 01:52.59 | Devastator | or see if you can set your card to g mode only |
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| 01:53.19 | HappyNewYear13 | yes, sentence above was about my wireless card |
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| 01:54.59 | HappyNewYear13 | sometimes drops to 1Mb/s |
| 01:55.10 | HappyNewYear13 | but i'm lucky if i catch it |
| 01:55.23 | HappyNewYear13 | it's usually 18Mb/s |
| 01:56.00 | Devastator | to be honest, that card isn't very good |
| 01:56.10 | Devastator | specially with linux |
| 01:56.55 | HappyNewYear13 | i chose the cheapest laptop. it's a lenovo. everything else works very well. |
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| 01:57.13 | HappyNewYear13 | it cost me about US 350 |
| 01:58.09 | HappyNewYear13 | i dont have too much experience buying laptops; i make mine last. last one was a dell, and it stills runs fast and smooth. |
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| 01:58.26 | somiaj | you can also get fairly cheap but decent wifi usb dongles |
| 01:58.33 | HappyNewYear13 | dell i bought it 6-7 years ago |
| 01:58.51 | HappyNewYear13 | i just cared it has wifi and that's all |
| 01:59.11 | HappyNewYear13 | but my wifi works perferct at 15M all day, my plan |
| 01:59.31 | HappyNewYear13 | so i hope drivers will improve |
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| 02:02.36 | HappyNewYear13 | i installed ubuntu and wifi didn't run from the start. so i spent some time online and blacklisted something in modprobe.d ecause "rfkill list" showed me wifi "hard blocked" |
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| 02:03.33 | HappyNewYear13 | ideapad_laptop was blocking my wifi |
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| 02:03.52 | Devastator | HappyNewYear13 why not try debian with backported kernel? |
| 02:04.15 | HappyNewYear13 | i've always wanted to try debian |
| 02:04.33 | HappyNewYear13 | i could've done it with this new computer |
| 02:05.07 | HappyNewYear13 | but i've been using ubuntu for so long. and i always make things work there |
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| 02:05.53 | Devastator | ok then.. |
| 02:06.17 | HappyNewYear13 | and i don't have too much free time now to start with debian |
| 02:07.03 | dvs | HappyNewYear13: Then why are you asking about a problem in #debian when you're not using debian? |
| 02:07.09 | HappyNewYear13 | what computer brand do you have now? is it a laptop too? Devastator |
| 02:07.40 | Devastator | HappyNewYear13 no, it's a desktop |
| 02:07.40 | HappyNewYear13 | dvs, my question was more aout an stat about my wireless |
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| 02:08.16 | HappyNewYear13 | dvs, and Devastator and i agree it's more about my wireless card or router |
| 02:08.39 | HappyNewYear13 | Devastator, what brand? or did you assemble it? |
| 02:08.43 | Devastator | dvs it's another example of great <you know the name> support |
| 02:08.59 | Devastator | HappyNewYear13 I assembled it |
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| 02:09.25 | HappyNewYear13 | Devastator, what's inside brackets? |
| 02:09.43 | codedwar | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:10.12 | HappyNewYear13 | Devastator, <you know the name> |
| 02:10.29 | Devastator | the operating system you are using.. |
| 02:12.00 | HappyNewYear13 | from the start i knew it had nothing to do with with ubuntu |
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| 02:12.14 | HappyNewYear13 | our convo showed it |
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| 02:12.33 | HappyNewYear13 | proved it, i mean |
| 02:13.17 | HappyNewYear13 | so ubuntu people come here often for your help? |
| 02:13.42 | HappyNewYear13 | i dont go to irc ubuntu very often, less here |
| 02:13.57 | dvs | moderators usually sk |
| 02:14.03 | dvs | show them to #ubuntu |
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| 02:15.18 | HappyNewYear13 | i dont ask for help online becuse im very self sufficient. so it was more like a curiosity i had |
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| 02:16.22 | HappyNewYear13 | and people here in debian are really cool. it's true. your anger threshold is higher than the ubuntu guys |
| 02:17.05 | HappyNewYear13 | you are more zen |
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| 02:18.47 | HappyNewYear13 | you see, no one here has told me this is offtopic (yet) |
| 02:19.30 | HappyNewYear13 | Devastator, what's your job, if you don't mind me asking? |
| 02:19.42 | HappyNewYear13 | are you programmer? |
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| 02:20.05 | Devastator | no, I work as an IT |
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| 02:20.31 | HappyNewYear13 | IT people are more relaxed than programmers |
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| 02:20.45 | HappyNewYear13 | much more informal |
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| 02:20.57 | HappyNewYear13 | my experience, that is |
| 02:21.07 | Devastator | it's usually true |
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| 02:21.27 | somiaj | HappyNewYear13: Though maybe since you brought it up, there is #debain-offtopic. (: |
| 02:21.38 | HappyNewYear13 | somiaj, are you serious i feel really good here |
| 02:21.41 | cnnx | I have a single board computer running debian and an atom motherboard running debian on usb.. they both have a seperate wireless connnection to the same wifi AP on the network, my question is, how can I access one from the other so in case i lose wireless connectivity to one i can still connect to it from the other? in the old days there was something like a null modem? is this the only way? |
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| 02:22.59 | somiaj | cnnx: I belive you want to look up an ad-hoc network |
| 02:23.34 | cnnx | somiaj: i want to physically connect the two boards |
| 02:23.40 | cnnx | either via serial or other way |
| 02:23.45 | somiaj | cnnx: if you have an ethernet cable you can connect them that way too, I think most modern ethernet cards don't need cross-over cables for that any more. |
| 02:23.45 | cnnx | usb, etc |
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| 02:24.07 | cnnx | they both have ethernet ports.. so just put a cable between both? |
| 02:24.09 | cnnx | and use eth0? |
| 02:24.26 | somiaj | that should work, if it doesn't you'll have to purchase a cross-over cable |
| 02:24.33 | cnnx | ok ty |
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| 02:44.14 | hunt | sorry about my noobness, but which debain architecture do i download for my intel i5? |
| 02:44.25 | hunt | options being amd64, i386 and so on |
| 02:44.41 | hunt | its an i5 2500 (Sandy Bridge) |
| 02:44.47 | nullfaith | is it a 64bit i5? |
| 02:44.52 | hunt | yes |
| 02:45.01 | nullfaith | then amd64. |
| 02:45.23 | hunt | ah ok, seems rather odd to download an amd architecture for an intel chip though |
| 02:45.36 | somiaj | hunt: amd64 or i386 depending on if you want 32 or 64 bit. |
| 02:45.38 | hunt | is Intel 64 just not supported or is it unused? |
| 02:45.54 | nullfaith | amd had the first 64bit arch available. thats why. |
| 02:46.19 | somiaj | ia64 is a different type of cpu arch, but fairly rare in the pc market |
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| 02:46.51 | somiaj | yea amd64 is the standard codename for x86_64 with amd and many intels use. |
| 02:46.51 | hunt | somiaj: i dont think ia64 is the intel 64 is it? its not listed as deployed on sandy bridge on its wikipedia page |
| 02:47.19 | nullfaith | just get the 64bit unless you have weak ram. |
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| 02:47.30 | somiaj | hunt: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IA-64 -- it is a different arch than the x86_64, which is what an i5 will use. |
| 02:47.32 | dvs | hunt: It's for the Itanium CPU |
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| 02:48.39 | hunt | somiaj: i dont see i5 or sandy bridge anywhere on that page, i looked at it myself earluier |
| 02:48.58 | hunt | dvs: which is not the Sandy Bridge i5, correct? |
| 02:49.00 | dvs | hunt: Yeah, so it's NOT an IA-64 |
| 02:49.13 | Rastus_Vernon | I have always wondered why Iceweasel/Firefox extensions were included in the main repository although theyâre already available from the addons.mozilla.org catalog. |
| 02:49.30 | somiaj | hunt: That is what we are saying, the standard pc processor (i5 in your case) is x86_64 which just ahs the code name amd64 |
| 02:49.36 | Rastus_Vernon | Does anyone happen to know? |
| 02:49.44 | hunt | somiaj: ah yes my mistake |
| 02:49.49 | somiaj | Rastus_Vernon: might want to ask the debian mozilla team. |
| 02:50.11 | hunt | im getting extremely slow download speeds on the debian live cd torrent |
| 02:50.20 | Rastus_Vernon | somiaj: Sure. mozilla.debian.org doesnât seem to exist anymore. |
| 02:50.22 | hunt | also i didnt realize debian was such a large os |
| 02:50.41 | somiaj | Rastus_Vernon: But I think the idea is if someone wants to volenter to matain a package (even one that is just an extension) why not provide one though debian. |
| 02:51.06 | somiaj | so they are probably there because someone is willing to create them and matain them in debian |
| 02:51.12 | rebauld | i'm sure mozilla ain't loving iceweasel |
| 02:52.00 | hunt | Sorry about all the questions, but im not sure where to get them answered. Is there a debian iso that does not include a DM or WM? is that what debian standard is? |
| 02:52.21 | dvs | hunt: http://www.debian.org/ top right corner. |
| 02:52.54 | nullfaith | Use the netinstall and build up. |
| 02:53.01 | nullfaith | That is what a lot of us do. |
| 02:53.07 | hunt | nullfaith: im looking for a live disk right now |
| 02:53.20 | iflema | nooo |
| 02:53.23 | hunt | nullfaith: dont believe theres a net install option for that is there? |
| 02:53.59 | nullfaith | Nope. |
| 02:54.33 | nullfaith | Install on a vm to test it out. |
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| 02:55.18 | hunt | nullfaith: i suppose i will but these packages are annoyingly large and itll be a big waste of time to just go around installing them willy nilly |
| 02:55.27 | hunt | itd be much easier if somebody knew off the top of their heads |
| 02:55.34 | hunt | but if not, i guess i gotta do what i gotta do |
| 02:55.45 | nullfaith | knew what? |
| 02:56.23 | nullfaith | And sorry I just assumed you had a vm player installed alraedy, most of us do. |
| 02:57.09 | hunt | knew whether or not debain-standard included a wm and a dm |
| 02:57.27 | hunt | nullfaith: i dont sadly :( ive been bouncing all over the place as far as linux distros go so i havent really had time to settle in and install anything |
| 02:58.05 | nullfaith | hunt: It includes a DE |
| 02:58.38 | hunt | nullfaith: i guess its the most barebones that is available though |
| 02:58.53 | dvs | hunt: It's includes Gnome 3 by default. |
| 02:59.06 | hunt | dvs: oh good i was going to install gnome 3 anyways |
| 02:59.16 | nullfaith | The netinstall is what you want man, so i really think you should us vbox and try it out. |
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| 02:59.38 | nullfaith | use |
| 02:59.49 | hunt | nullfaith: ill grab the netinstall when im actually done, but usb live is probably better for me because my computer is pretty instable on my current set up |
| 02:59.59 | hunt | unstable |
| 03:00.12 | nullfaith | Ok well if you have any questions at all feel free to message me. |
| 03:00.19 | hunt | cool thanks nullfaith |
| 03:00.24 | nullfaith | np |
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| 03:08.14 | gtristan | Hi, is there a package in jessie I can depend on to have jslint installed ? |
| 03:08.38 | gtristan | it's a nodejs package... I've found that there is indeed a package for uglifyjs |
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| 03:20.23 | hunt | hey im really unfamiliar with debian, and im having trouble getting gdm to start |
| 03:20.43 | hunt | im not sure how services are started in general, since it appears systemd is not included in the version i have |
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| 03:20.57 | hunt | could anyone assist me? |
| 03:22.08 | mngrif | try looking in /etc/init.d |
| 03:22.24 | hunt | mngrif: does this mean i have to reconfigure my init script and then restart in order to start a service? |
| 03:22.30 | mngrif | if you just need to start/stop stuff, you probably want "service stop nginx" or something like that |
| 03:22.35 | mngrif | no |
| 03:22.48 | hunt | i dont appear to have the service command |
| 03:22.53 | mngrif | you need to be root |
| 03:22.58 | rebauld | installing gnome should have already done it and started automatically on boot |
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| 03:23.57 | hunt | well i dont really want to reboot |
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| 03:25.13 | hunt | could anyone tell me how to passwd "user" for the live disk? i get authentication failures when i try to login or su or such things |
| 03:25.13 | khaije|io | does Debian support user namespaces? Are there any caveats I should keep in mind? |
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| 03:27.05 | rebauld | khaije|io: what is a user namespace? |
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| 03:28.19 | khaije|io | rebauld: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserNamespace |
| 03:28.36 | rebauld | http://lwn.net/Articles/532593/ |
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| 03:28.47 | hunt | jeeze why doesnt debian just use the real versions of packages instead of all this rebranded stuff |
| 03:28.52 | hunt | its kind of annoying |
| 03:28.56 | dvs | hunt: I think you just use "sudo" |
| 03:29.03 | hunt | dvs: yea that worked |
| 03:29.07 | hunt | dvs: thanks for the help |
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| 03:29.21 | khaije|io | rebauld: basically a way of seperating other namespaces around user capabilities and UIDs |
| 03:30.04 | hunt | fore example i mean why isnt firefox available |
| 03:30.08 | hunt | why is there only iceweasel |
| 03:30.21 | khaije|io | rebauld: yup, thats the same I was thinking of |
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| 03:30.43 | dvs | hunt: Because mozilla requires that in order to use the name "firefox", it must always use the latest version. |
| 03:31.10 | hunt | dvs: so why isnt the latest version available? |
| 03:31.17 | hunt | dvs: perhaps i dont understand the debian philosophy? |
| 03:31.33 | rebauld | is hunt that wireless 54Mb/s guy? |
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| 03:31.39 | hunt | rebauld: no |
| 03:31.40 | dvs | hunt: because the stable release only makes updates for security fixes |
| 03:31.52 | seeker63 | I have xrandr --newmode "1024X768_60.0" with rest of line that appears when i run cvt and I get xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default |
| 03:31.59 | hunt | dvs: interesting... how do you get other updates then in debian? |
| 03:32.26 | khaije|io | hunt: Mozilla wants control over the way that updates are delivered in order to use the "Firefox" brand |
| 03:32.32 | dvs | hunt: If you want to use newer packages, then you have to use either unstable or testing. |
| 03:32.54 | hunt | khaije|io: why is this problematic for debian? |
| 03:33.05 | dvs | hunt: but fortunately, for iceweasel, there is a separate repository which is kept up to date. |
| 03:33.24 | hunt | also i dont see why there isnt at least a package for firefox as well as iceweasel |
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| 03:33.44 | khaije|io | hunt: "problematic" is your word, but if your curious you could google for it. It's a matter of record that was covered in relevant tech press. |
| 03:33.58 | dvs | hunt: I just told you. If Debian wants to use the Firefox name, it must always be at the latest version. |
| 03:34.10 | khaije|io | iceweasel is a rebranded firefox, but the bits are the same |
| 03:34.26 | rebauld | both still phone home to mozilla on first run ;) |
| 03:34.29 | khaije|io | if you know you want to use firefox, on debian, iceweasel is what you're looking for |
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| 03:35.01 | khaije|io | unless you're only just a browser by it's name |
| 03:35.03 | hunt | dvs: ok i understand. so in the unstable or testing versions of debian (are they independant versions of debian, or something else?) how up to date are packages compared to bleeding edge oses like arch? |
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| 03:35.13 | khaije|io | *judge |
| 03:35.50 | dvs | hunt: unstable is the first point of entry for new packages. So, they have more bugs than what is found in stable. |
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| 03:36.42 | ShalokShalom | does anyone know, why dolphin-emulator is not in the repos :O ? |
| 03:36.48 | ShalokShalom | please |
| 03:36.53 | dvs | ,v dolphin |
| 03:36.54 | judd | Package: dolphin on i386 -- squeeze: 4:4.4.5-2; wheezy: 4:4.8.4-2; jessie: 4:4.14.2-1; sid: 4:4.14.2-1 |
| 03:37.07 | ShalokShalom | dolphin-emulator |
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| 03:37.14 | seeker63 | does anyone have a solution to the failed gamma problem i just posted |
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| 03:37.43 | ShalokShalom | https://dolphin-emu.org/?nocr=true |
| 03:37.53 | dindinx | ,v libgcrypt11 |
| 03:37.54 | judd | Package: libgcrypt11 on i386 -- squeeze-security: 1.4.5-2+squeeze1; squeeze: 1.4.5-2+squeeze1; wheezy: 1.5.0-5+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 1.5.0-5+deb7u2; sid: 1.5.4-3 |
| 03:38.13 | dvs | ShalokShalom: No one wanted to maintain a package for it? |
| 03:38.22 | ShalokShalom | really ? |
| 03:38.22 | iflema | hunt: Arch generally speaking does no patching |
| 03:38.47 | ShalokShalom | even the one woman show KaOS offers dolphin-emu |
| 03:39.18 | iflema | hunt: no arch specific changes... basically |
| 03:39.57 | hunt | iflema: is that an explanation of version discrepancy? |
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| 03:41.10 | jakesyl | hey how do i burn a .fw image do a disk |
| 03:41.15 | iflema | hunt: new stuff in debian is issue |
| 03:41.52 | hunt | iflema: how outdated is stuff then? |
| 03:42.11 | iflema | hunt have a look at it |
| 03:42.23 | iflema | upstream is version... debian is version |
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| 03:46.30 | AlexLikeRock | how to remove LSB |
| 03:46.35 | AlexLikeRock | ? |
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| 03:47.54 | AlexLikeRock | i see my PC runing 1:30 minmutes in " LSB raver network " |
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| 03:48.04 | AlexLikeRock | its alot time |
| 03:48.12 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
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| 03:49.10 | hunt | how unstable is debian jessie? |
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| 03:49.35 | AlexLikeRock | hunt, cero |
| 03:49.40 | AlexLikeRock | its too stable |
| 03:49.44 | AlexLikeRock | ;-) |
| 03:49.46 | dvs | hunt: It just entered a freeze so it should get better in the coming months. |
| 03:49.54 | iflema | hunt: not really.. a few things not ready. Debian and Arch are completely different make no mistake. |
| 03:50.29 | hunt | iflema: where can i read about the major changes and whats not ready sand such things? they certainly seem very very different |
| 03:50.38 | khaije|io | hunt: many people run jessie for production workloads. It's be recommended for promotion to the "stable" label in the next few months, which in the span of a debian release is pretty soon. |
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| 03:51.09 | hunt | khaije|io: how big of a departure is it from wheezy? jessie is where systemd takes over, right? |
| 03:51.22 | iflema | hunt: google relesse critical bugs |
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| 03:52.21 | khaije|io | hunt: i believe thats correct, thought jessie still supports the original init system as well |
| 03:52.39 | hunt | wow i <3 how debian releases are named after toy story characters |
| 03:52.46 | deego | :) |
| 03:52.57 | hunt | have they always been that way? |
| 03:53.01 | AlexLikeRock | yes hunt , its funny |
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| 03:53.03 | AlexLikeRock | :) |
| 03:53.15 | hunt | thats just lvovely |
| 03:53.21 | iflema | woody stole my heart |
| 03:53.32 | dvs | !stretch |
| 03:54.36 | iflema | what was before ham or potato? |
| 03:54.46 | hunt | is it possible to use jessie on a live disk? |
| 03:54.58 | dvs | iflema: bo? rex? |
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| 03:55.08 | iflema | cant remember |
| 03:55.22 | iflema | isnt bo next |
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| 03:55.35 | iflema | has no idea |
| 03:55.58 | khaije|io | hunt: theres always lots of new stuff and changes so it's hard to sum up difference between release in terms of "how much". The debian wikipedia page has short blurbs on each release IIRC |
| 03:56.02 | AlexLikeRock | 2.1 Slink 1999-03-09 |
| 03:56.02 | AlexLikeRock | 2.2 Potato 2000-08-15 |
| 03:56.25 | AlexLikeRock | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian#Release_timeline |
| 03:57.04 | iflema | buzz rex bo hamm slink potato (how could i forget about slink) woody sarge (boo) etch lenny squeeze wheezy |
| 03:57.29 | hunt | khaije|io: as a debian user how excited are you for jessie, does it feel like a big change? |
| 03:57.36 | khaije|io | i'm using it now |
| 03:57.41 | khaije|io | i likes it |
| 03:58.08 | hunt | for people who are already established on debian, why do you hang out on the debian irc? |
| 03:58.09 | deego | khaije|io: do you use it with systemd? |
| 03:58.19 | khaije|io | sure |
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| 03:58.25 | iflema | hunt its in a good position for semi old comuters.. basically it would have been cutting edge 3-5 years ago |
| 03:58.38 | iflema | hunt thats a bit steep |
| 03:58.41 | iflema | 2-4 |
| 03:58.44 | hunt | iflema: jeeze debian is slow huh |
| 03:59.01 | hunt | iflema: safe to say its the slowest distro? |
| 03:59.10 | iflema | best distro |
| 03:59.22 | deego | hunt: slow? how so? |
| 03:59.33 | hunt | deego: outdated |
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| 03:59.50 | iflema | hunt slow after you work it out is almost always "better" |
| 04:00.03 | hunt | iflema: im not saying its not, but it is the slowest, correct? |
| 04:00.19 | iflema | hunt: define slowest... |
| 04:00.33 | hunt | iflema: outdated |
| 04:01.05 | iflema | hunt: jessie is in a good position . |
| 04:01.06 | hunt | unrelated i have strangely slow download rates from the debian servers, is there a faster reccomended mirror? |
| 04:01.23 | hunt | iflema: oh ok, then forget it, what were you referring to when you said it wouldve been cutting edge 2-4 years ago? |
| 04:01.51 | iflema | hunt cutting edge is not what you want generally speak.. well its not what i want XD |
| 04:02.08 | iflema | hunt: to play around yeah.. to work.. no |
| 04:02.09 | hunt | iflema: are you saying 2-4 years ago debian was more cutting edge? |
| 04:02.52 | iflema | hunt no im say 2-4 years ago is where arch was |
| 04:03.05 | iflema | but that sounds stupid XD |
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| 04:03.49 | hunt | iflema: so where is arch now? |
| 04:03.56 | iflema | hunt: destop king! |
| 04:04.11 | hunt | desktop king? |
| 04:04.18 | iflema | wakka wakka wakka |
| 04:04.46 | hunt | pacman |
| 04:05.57 | iflema | hunt just rest assured they are very different and theres homework to do for both. |
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| 04:09.08 | hunt | ok theres clearly something wrong because the download speeds i get from the debian servers are ridiculously slow |
| 04:10.08 | AlexLikeRock | nice https://wiki.debian.org/DebianArt/Themes/Lines |
| 04:10.31 | dvs | hunt: https://www.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/#mirrors |
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| 04:14.38 | hunt | so i installed the netboot to my usb, and when i try to launch it from UEFI it launches the bootloader for my regular UEFI drive... |
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| 04:14.59 | dvs | hunt: You installed it wrong. |
| 04:15.21 | hunt | dvs: well it works for bios, but what did i do wrong? |
| 04:15.24 | z8z | Hello guys is it safe to install nonfree drivers from nonfree repos? In terms of security and privacy i mean... |
| 04:15.27 | AlexLikeRock | hunt, you need go intro BIOS , AND TURN OFF Secure boot |
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| 04:15.42 | AlexLikeRock | AND turn on LEGACY |
| 04:15.56 | hunt | AlexLikeRock: what is there no UEFI options for debian then? |
| 04:16.36 | AlexLikeRock | well , i remember " no for debian" |
| 04:17.02 | deego | z8z: no |
| 04:17.06 | AlexLikeRock | you need share dabian and wondows in you pc ? |
| 04:17.11 | AlexLikeRock | hunt, |
| 04:17.18 | z8z | deego: nice :D |
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| 04:17.26 | AlexLikeRock | like windows 8? |
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| 04:17.42 | z8z | deego: so i guess i need to change my internal network card on laptop right? |
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| 04:17.44 | somiaj | hunt: debian wheezy supports both legacy and efi boot. It doesn't spport secure boot. |
| 04:18.05 | AlexLikeRock | tanks somiaj |
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| 04:18.09 | hunt | somiaj: how would i disable secure boot, i didnt understand AlexLikeRock s suggestion |
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| 04:18.26 | AlexLikeRock | reboot yout laptop/PC |
| 04:18.31 | somiaj | hunt: this is a config option in your computers bios |
| 04:18.33 | deego | z8z: if you don't trust that non-free driver, then yeah. |
| 04:18.41 | AlexLikeRock | try to go to BIOS SETTINGS |
| 04:18.51 | deego | z8z: of course, if you have already installed the driver, then, it's too late. |
| 04:18.52 | AlexLikeRock | with F1 , or ESC |
| 04:18.57 | AlexLikeRock | hunt, |
| 04:18.58 | hunt | it boots into my arch bootloader not a windows bootloader |
| 04:19.04 | hunt | i dont think secure boot is the problem |
| 04:19.08 | z8z | deego: no i didn't.... :) just cable |
| 04:19.32 | hunt | in fact secure boot is disabled, so it certainly isnt |
| 04:19.34 | deego | z8z: "just cable"? |
| 04:19.48 | z8z | deego: ethernet at the moment |
| 04:19.58 | hunt | you guys make too many assumptions |
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| 04:20.47 | z8z | deego: so i got a temporary wifi pendrive at the moment which is in the list of supported wireless cards.... how do i have debian to scan for it like it does during installation? |
| 04:21.20 | hunt | AlexLikeRock: somiaj i installed like so `dd bs=4M if=mini.iso of=/dev/sdc` |
| 04:21.34 | hunt | AlexLikeRock: somiaj that works on every other distribution |
| 04:22.01 | deego | z8z: there's a wireless option.. use expert mode. But, really, i'm out of touch. The last time I installed debian from scratch was many versions ago. |
| 04:22.16 | deego | What's great about debian is seamless upgrading with every new release. :) |
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| 04:22.57 | hunt | can anyone help me: when i try to boot to my usb netboot debian in UEFI mode it instead loads my arch bootloader |
| 04:23.01 | AlexLikeRock | hunt, do you see a boot menu ? |
| 04:23.12 | hunt | AlexLikeRock: yes but its the boot menu for my arch not for debian |
| 04:23.32 | AlexLikeRock | -.- |
| 04:23.44 | AlexLikeRock | no, i talk about BIOS BOOT |
| 04:23.44 | hunt | AlexLikeRock: options being "Boot arch; Boot uefi defaults; Reboot into system firmware" |
| 04:24.18 | hunt | AlexLikeRock: yes i have my BIOS open, and i can access the boot menu, from where i boot into UEFI USB 3.0. |
| 04:24.38 | hunt | AlexLikeRock: however it boots my arch distro |
| 04:25.06 | AlexLikeRock | mmm |
| 04:25.14 | AlexLikeRock | i dont now.... |
| 04:25.27 | AlexLikeRock | you have 2 ways to continus try |
| 04:25.41 | AlexLikeRock | 1.- try by CD/DVD |
| 04:25.56 | AlexLikeRock | 2.- try change your BIOS to LEGACY |
| 04:25.56 | hunt | AlexLikeRock: or just give up on debian because apparently it doesnt support uefi |
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| 04:26.31 | hunt | Can anyone here help me? My debian net boot USB when booted in uEFI mode is essentially ignored and my ssd boots instead |
| 04:26.44 | AlexLikeRock | well, its more secure boot by CD thant USB-pendrive ;-) |
| 04:26.47 | AlexLikeRock | hunt, |
| 04:27.03 | hunt | AlexLikeRock: i dont have a disk drive |
| 04:27.20 | AlexLikeRock | hunt, no problen |
| 04:27.38 | AlexLikeRock | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:27.43 | AlexLikeRock | live.debian.net |
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| 04:27.56 | hunt | i have already done that |
| 04:28.12 | hunt | AlexLikeRock: i appreciate your help but I think besides the netboot assistance Im alright |
| 04:28.16 | AlexLikeRock | whit non-free ? |
| 04:28.18 | AlexLikeRock | http://live.debian.net/cdimage/release/stable+nonfree/ |
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| 04:28.54 | AlexLikeRock | some ones SSD need a NON-FREE firmaware |
| 04:29.36 | AlexLikeRock | hunt, can you try the number 2 ? |
| 04:29.44 | z8z | nonfree firmwares are getting a problem for the OS community isn't it? |
| 04:29.47 | AlexLikeRock | --> 2.- try change your BIOS to LEGACY |
| 04:30.05 | hunt | AlexLikeRock: i dont want to boot legacy bios, i want to boot in uefi mode |
| 04:30.31 | AlexLikeRock | ok, try by CD/DVD ;-) |
| 04:30.37 | AlexLikeRock | what you tinck hunt |
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| 04:31.00 | hunt | AlexLikeRock: *think ;), Im trying to install though i dontw ant to liveboot |
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| 04:34.37 | hunt | is there really no one here who can assist me? |
| 04:34.53 | hunt | my debian netboot image doesnt work in uefi mode |
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| 04:41.47 | somiaj | hunt: why are you using teh netboot image, do you mean netinstall, and it does work. How did you write the iso to your usb or cdrom |
| 04:42.48 | hunt | somiaj: dd bs=4M if=mini.iso of=/dev/sdc && sync |
| 04:42.57 | hunt | somiaj: what id assume is the standard way |
| 04:43.36 | somiaj | that works, though cp works just as well. Anyways why netboot, the netinstall image is a beter choice for most people |
| 04:43.49 | somiaj | maybe even the unoffical one with non-free firmware depending on your network connenction |
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| 04:45.05 | hunt | somiaj: because this seems to be what debian suggests |
| 04:45.43 | hunt | somiaj: also i want to install jessie not wheezy |
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| 04:47.27 | somiaj | well I don't know what you mean by suggests, but I didn't see anyone suggest netboot to you, netinstall is usually the suggested one |
| 04:47.45 | hunt | somiaj: i dont know what its called, im using the downloads from tiny usb |
| 04:47.47 | somiaj | for jessie you want to install a base system from the wheezy netinstall, upgrade to jessie then contine to install other software |
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| 05:07.24 | hunt | how do i pick a fast debian mirror |
| 05:07.34 | hunt | the ftp..debian.org one is slow as balls for me |
| 05:07.44 | deego | apt-mirror |
| 05:07.53 | hunt | im at the install screen |
| 05:07.56 | hunt | so this is temporary |
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| 05:08.04 | hunt | can someone suggest for me one |
| 05:08.06 | hunt | thats fast |
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| 05:08.54 | dondelelcaro | hunt: http.debian.net |
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| 05:09.15 | Rusty1 | apt-spy ? |
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| 05:11.51 | z8z | installing nonfree firmware from intel is safe in terms of privacy and security? |
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| 05:12.43 | AlexLikeRock | i tink "yes" z8z |
| 05:13.22 | AlexLikeRock | but , you now nonfree = nonfree code |
| 05:14.04 | z8z | how nonfree code may be bad? :| |
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| 05:15.57 | AlexLikeRock | exactly, its bad :-/ |
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| 05:17.39 | AlexLikeRock | but intel its a good boy |
| 05:19.15 | z8z | so i go for it right? :D |
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| 05:25.21 | rww | If Intel is unscrupulous, the microcode baked in at the factory probably is backdoored. Microcode updates aren't that much more of a leap of faith. |
| 05:25.25 | AlexLikeRock | z8z, http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-software-even-more-important.en.html |
| 05:26.47 | dondelelcaro | this is one of the many reasons why free firwmare and free hardware is important |
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| 05:28.14 | hunt | so debian, i hope someone acn hhelp me. im installing debian from the netinstall iso, and while its eslecting and installing software I get an error. it tells me nothing about what that error is, and it happens after the first 100 or so packages |
| 05:28.24 | hunt | this is incredibly frustrating and im tempted to abandon debian |
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| 05:29.34 | AlexLikeRock | hunt, do you try by debian normal version ( i mean NOT net install ) |
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| 05:30.01 | AlexLikeRock | net install version remove many pakages to do a slim debian |
| 05:30.18 | AlexLikeRock | maybe you need a pakage they are removed :-( |
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| 05:36.11 | z8z | list of usb wireless pendrives running with firmware-free? |
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| 05:37.09 | iflema | hunt a good route is net install a base and then apt-get ya way to where ever. Have a look at the debian wiki when adding the big ones like X, DM/DE/WM, systemd even |
| 05:37.09 | AlexLikeRock | z8z, https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi#USB_Devices |
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| 05:37.53 | AlexLikeRock | z8z, i have a ralink :) |
| 05:38.23 | z8z | exact model name? :| |
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| 05:39.06 | telaru | hey guys i am on jessie and i am not seeing 3.16 listed in aptitude, interesting because 2 of of my other desktops upgraded to 3,16 . misisng something? |
| 05:39.21 | telaru | this pc is actually more modern than the others |
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| 05:39.39 | telaru | did upgrading kernel change somehow ? |
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| 05:42.12 | teoma | Is it possible to enable both headphone and speaker output on a laptop? |
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| 05:43.11 | teoma | I should qualify that -- I'm using jackd. |
| 05:44.26 | shingouz | teoma: it should be possible. some laptops do have a hardware speaker cutoff when you plug in the headphones so that might create a problem |
| 05:46.07 | teoma | shingouz: How can you tell if your laptop has that? |
| 05:47.02 | infinitycycle | teoma: What is your audio hardware? |
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| 05:47.42 | z8z | AlexLikeRock: Model name? :| |
| 05:47.56 | shingouz | teoma: hmm... i think the only way would be to play with the mixer. enable the headphones and speakers and see if any sound comes out of the speakers when the headphones are plugged in and the mixer still shows the speakers active |
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| 05:48.02 | hunt | for some reason i only ever get 1.5Kb/s from all debian sources despite my 50Mb/s connection |
| 05:48.21 | vook | teoma: something like the curses based alsamixer may help. It's sort of a "feature" that the speaker mutes when you plug in headphones. Alsamixer offers a bit more control. |
| 05:48.24 | hunt | also im getting duplicate package warnings and im not sure how to resolve them |
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| 05:48.53 | telaru | teoma: try pulse and different sinks, you might be able to define multiple sinks |
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| 05:49.16 | shingouz | i am talking about a hardware cutoff here, not a switch that senses the headphones and controls the mixer... |
| 05:49.23 | hunt | is anyone out there who can explain to me the ridiculously slow download speeds |
| 05:49.35 | teoma | infinitycycle: It's HDA-Intel - HDA Intel PCH. |
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| 05:51.32 | AlexLikeRock | z8z, ID 148f:3070 Ralink Technology, Corp. RT2870/RT3070 Wireless Adapter |
| 05:51.34 | teoma | vook: alsamixer doesn't indicate that the speakers are muted. |
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| 05:52.03 | vook | teoma: well, ok. Just a thought. It's worked for me in the past. |
| 05:52.07 | shingouz | teoma: that hints at a hardware cutoff :( |
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| 05:52.25 | AlexLikeRock | z8z, TP-link TL-WN7200ND |
| 05:53.35 | infinitycycle | teoma: Nvm. Had an idea, thought I had something. I was wrong. Sorry! |
| 05:54.19 | teoma | telaru: I have pulseaudio going through jack now. Would it help to have that the other way around for this purpose? |
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| 05:58.07 | eb0t | hey does debian wheezy run systemd |
| 05:58.29 | AlexLikeRock | yes |
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| 05:58.40 | AlexLikeRock | yes eb0t |
| 05:58.43 | eb0t | ah cool AlexLikeRock ....is it default |
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| 05:59.06 | teoma | I guess I'll look more into this later -- thanks, everyone, for the help! |
| 05:59.17 | AlexLikeRock | i dont now, it in war this title |
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| 06:03.02 | vook | I guess I didn't realize systemd was being used on wheezy. I use "service" and /etc/init.d/** to control services. |
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| 06:05.25 | vook | hmm, ya, no systemd on my wheezy. Anyway... |
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| 06:15.35 | hunt | hey i just installed gdm and gnome-shell but gdm is a black screen |
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| 06:18.43 | hunt | does no one repsond on this irc :/ |
| 06:18.50 | hunt | im having serious problems with debian |
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| 06:19.47 | Amir1 | How to Remaster an installed Debian ? |
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| 06:22.13 | deego | hunt: weird. did you install gnome-desktop-environment? |
| 06:22.41 | hunt | deego: no i installed gnome-shell and gdm3 |
| 06:22.48 | hunt | deego: why do i need more then these two things? |
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| 06:23.38 | deego | hunt: you don't, if you are happy with the black screen. |
| 06:23.53 | deego | But, if you want the desktop, you might want to install it :D |
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| 06:24.08 | hunt | deego: why is there no way to run gnome-shell though, perhaps i dont understand what gnome-shell is |
| 06:24.20 | deego | hunt: it's an interface to the desktop |
| 06:24.23 | deego | iiuc |
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| 06:24.34 | hunt | on arch you only need gnome-shell and gdm |
| 06:24.36 | hunt | or wait |
| 06:24.37 | hunt | nevermind |
| 06:24.42 | hunt | ok i guess i have to install this |
| 06:24.48 | hunt | it seems stupidly large though |
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| 06:26.16 | chomwitt | anyone else who can start owncloud client in jessy? |
| 06:26.21 | chomwitt | anyone else who cant start owncloud client in jessy? |
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| 06:32.03 | z8z | so hard to find free firmware pendrive which is MINI :| |
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| 06:34.57 | hunt | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:35.07 | hunt | i installed gnome-desktop-environment and it simply doesnt work |
| 06:35.09 | hunt | i get a black screen |
| 06:35.51 | deego | hunt: look at the .log file gdm creates and see what the problem is. |
| 06:35.58 | hunt | deego: where is that |
| 06:37.16 | deego | hunt: before that, have you installed xserver-xorg-video-all? |
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| 06:37.36 | hunt | deego: i figured the required xorg dependancies would be installed automatically |
| 06:37.50 | hunt | but yes thats installed |
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| 06:38.20 | deego | hunt: /var/log/gdm3, i'm guessing |
| 06:38.26 | hunt | deego: empty folder |
| 06:38.57 | deego | hunt: tried restarting rebooting after all this? /etc/init.d/gdm(3) restart, but I trust the reboot more for such cases for some reason. |
| 06:38.59 | hunt | deego: i think i may know how to get logs |
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| 06:40.04 | hunt | nevermind... |
| 06:40.09 | hunt | deego: i hav tried both |
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| 06:40.54 | deego | hunt: if it's empty, then gdm is not even being called. |
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| 06:41.02 | deego | hunt: dpkg-reconfigure gdm and set it. |
| 06:41.14 | hunt | deego: perhaps i dont have my graphics drivers installed? |
| 06:41.18 | deego | gdm3* |
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| 06:41.24 | hunt | the display variable is certainly not set |
| 06:41.31 | deego | hunt: I thought video-all would have done that. |
| 06:42.02 | hunt | deego: what package is dpkg configure in? |
| 06:42.17 | hunt | deego: well i suppose theyre installed then... still xrandr for example cant open the display |
| 06:42.31 | deego | hunt: in debconf, you sholud already have it. |
| 06:43.06 | hunt | i have debconf but i dont have dpkg-reconfigure :/ |
| 06:43.19 | hunt | weird? im confused |
| 06:43.32 | deego | hunt: try /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure |
| 06:43.40 | deego | hunt: and you may want to add that path to your .bashrc |
| 06:45.34 | hunt | ok that worked and im running it now |
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| 06:46.08 | deego | hunt: nice! glad. |
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| 06:46.39 | hunt | deego: was i supposed to add any options to dpkg-reconfigure? i ran it but its still not logging |
| 06:47.01 | deego | hunt: dpkg-reconfigure gdm3 |
| 06:47.08 | hunt | yea i ran that |
| 06:47.19 | deego | hunt: ah, hm, and gdm3 is the default? |
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| 06:47.28 | hunt | im not sure, how could i check? |
| 06:47.43 | deego | hunt: via dpkg-reconfigure gdm3 |
| 06:47.55 | hunt | if it was the default how would i know after running that |
| 06:48.13 | deego | hunt: it would be the selected option if you ran it again. :) |
| 06:48.26 | hunt | oh ok i ran it again, now what? |
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| 06:48.58 | deego | hunt: reboot and see if gdm3 at least generates a log. |
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| 06:50.25 | hunt | deego: well var/log/gdm3 still empty |
| 06:51.16 | deego | hunt: that is so strange. And, gdm3 is the default selected in dpkg-reconfigure gdm3? |
| 06:51.34 | deego | hunt: What were the other options available? |
| 06:51.52 | hunt | nothing happenned when i dpkg-reconfigured |
| 06:52.02 | hunt | it just paused for a moment and then returned to shell with no output |
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| 06:52.28 | hunt | so i didnt see options, defaults or anything like taht |
| 06:52.43 | deego | hunt: You didn't even see something like this? [ ok ] Scheduling reload of GNOME Display Manager configuration: gdm3. |
| 06:52.48 | hunt | nope |
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| 06:53.24 | deego | hunt: that's so bizarre. Is your system properly installed. What does apt-get -f install do? |
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| 06:53.38 | hunt | apt-get -f install does nothing |
| 06:53.43 | hunt | there were problems during installation |
| 06:53.43 | deego | hunt: what's in your sources.list? Any foreign stuff? |
| 06:53.57 | deego | hunt: can you elaborate? |
| 06:54.00 | hunt | the installing of software failed at some point so i moved on to installing th ebootloader |
| 06:54.11 | hunt | i retried it seveal times and it continued to fail and would not explain why |
| 06:54.30 | deego | hunt: what's in your sources.list? Any foreign stuff? |
| 06:54.45 | hunt | ill paste it one second |
| 06:55.16 | deego | hunt: If I have problems with installation, 90% of the time, it's a bad cd burn. In any case, i'd try this: apt-get install gdm3 --reinstall |
| 06:55.25 | deego | .. to reinstall.. but, really, who knows where the error is. |
| 06:55.38 | hunt | im using a usb D: |
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| 06:56.22 | hunt | deego: nothing foreign though |
| 06:56.25 | deego | hunt: Also, what does apt-get upgrade show? |
| 06:56.26 | hunt | deego: in my sources |
| 06:56.48 | hunt | deego: 14 kept back packages |
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| 06:57.28 | deego | hunt: ah, will you try apt-get dist-upgrade and install them properly as well. And, do reinstall gdm3 as above. I will check back in 10m |
| 06:58.15 | deego | hunt: and always use --purge when removing packages, else their remnants will slowly mess up your system. |
| 06:58.26 | hunt | ix.io/fdU for my upraded packages |
| 06:58.33 | hunt | deego: ok i havent removed anything yet though |
| 06:58.59 | hunt | ok hopefully this will be done when youve returned |
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| 07:00.39 | hunt | for anyone else here, why is debian still on kernel 3.16? |
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| 07:01.11 | hunt | HAHAH!!!! |
| 07:01.14 | hunt | gdm3 is a go |
| 07:01.18 | hunt | deego: we have lift off |
| 07:01.25 | hunt | deego: thanks for the help, i needed dat dist upgrade |
| 07:01.33 | deego | hunt: glad! |
| 07:01.46 | hunt | might i say that the jessie gnome-shell is far prettier than the wheezy one |
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| 07:02.04 | deego | hunt: debian's on 3.2, right? Stable debian is, by definition, slow to jump to leading edge. If you want the latter, you can use testing or sid. |
| 07:02.19 | deego | hunt: ah, you are on jessie? |
| 07:02.28 | hunt | yea im on jessie |
| 07:02.43 | hunt | which is on 3.16 |
| 07:02.51 | hunt | im talking about the kernel versoin btw |
| 07:03.22 | deego | (yeah, that's 3.2 in wheezy) |
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| 07:15.37 | Lope | how can I check what init system I'm using? my startup scripts are in /etc/init.d on debian wheezy |
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| 07:16.30 | Lope | is there any way to log my shutdown? sometimes when I press the power button some of my vms don't stop automatically and the system waits for them to get killed./ |
| 07:16.39 | deego | Lope: only one of the init packages would be installed on your system, I guess. |
| 07:17.17 | Lope | deego: well, I've got sysv-rc and sysvinit |
| 07:17.22 | Lope | so I guess that's it. |
| 07:17.39 | deego | yeah |
| 07:17.46 | Lope | so how can I log my shutdown? |
| 07:17.59 | Lope | I want to view my syslog during or after shutdown |
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| 07:18.05 | hunt | hey guys im getting kernel panics in steam big picture mode and steam games |
| 07:18.11 | hunt | can someone help me try and figure out why |
| 07:18.41 | hunt | im fairly certain its not steam specific |
| 07:18.58 | hunt | as this was happening on arch with non steam games as well |
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| 07:21.10 | hunt | anyone? |
| 07:21.18 | deego | Hunt: weren't you asking about not installing nonfree packages some time ago? :) |
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| 07:21.41 | hunt | deego: not installing? |
| 07:21.59 | deego | hunt: wait, that was z8z |
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| 07:23.54 | z8z | deego: i'm not installing btw :D ..... fighting hard to find device names of wifi pendrives being small too using free firmwares |
| 07:25.12 | hunt | can anyone assist me in understanding this kernel panic that consistantly occurs in games and steam big picture mode |
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| 08:01.50 | Lope | when I run "update-rc.d init-server-hostnode enable" on my empty test init script: http://codepad.org/CLbosn4k I get this error "insserv: warning: current stop runlevel(s) (empty) of script `init-openvz-hostnode' overrides LSB defaults (0 6)." and the script runs at startup only, but not for shutdown... any ideas? Should I just the same services for required stop as required start? I want to shut down my VMs gracefully. |
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| 08:25.25 | hunterp | Why does not my apt-get update fail with this sources.list ? http://pastebin.com/JfdjezzR |
| 08:25.31 | hunterp | *does |
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| 09:25.03 | pucko- | Hello. Can anyone here tell me what happened to emdebian? |
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| 09:27.49 | CQ | try irc.debian.org #emdebian |
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| 09:29.50 | vangelo | hi |
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| 09:32.35 | sobersabre | hi. I'm trying to dist-upgrade from wheezy to jessie |
| 09:32.40 | sobersabre | broke some stuff... |
| 09:32.43 | sobersabre | :) |
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| 09:33.33 | babilen | sobersabre: Congratulations |
| 09:33.36 | ned__ | why from wheezy to jess? |
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| 09:33.57 | grzeslaw | Hellou, after fresh selinux installation on wheezy stable, I get "/etc/pam.d/login is not SELinux enabled".. I read that is a bug: #531660 but it was in squeeze.. so not sure how to fix that in wheezy.. |
| 09:34.14 | babilen | ned__: How else? |
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| 09:36.37 | sobersabre | babilen: ) thanksie |
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| 09:37.08 | sobersabre | anyways, I see most of the sh1t cometh from i386 arch packages (I have a mix...) |
| 09:37.50 | sobersabre | When trying to do the (obvious to me) dpkg --remove-architecture i386, I'm getting "hey buster, currenty in use by the database" error |
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| 09:37.59 | vangelo | hi |
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| 09:38.28 | sobersabre | I think some stuff is in half-baked state, so I can't remove offending packages. |
| 09:39.12 | sobersabre | ned__: the luddite in me sometimes fails due to acute upgraditis.... |
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| 09:39.26 | sobersabre | esp. in times of change :) |
| 09:40.09 | babilen | sobersabre: You want #debian-next on irc.oftc.net (cf. /topic) and it would also be great if you could provide more information on a pastebin such as http://paste.debian.net -- /msg dpkg bat |
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| 09:41.36 | cynicallemon | sobersabre: maybe systemd issues? |
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| 09:42.08 | sobersabre | cynicallemon: no idea. |
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| 09:42.25 | sobersabre | no errors related to systemd. |
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| 09:42.58 | babilen | sobersabre: Please join #debian-next and provide complete logs of the upgrade and additional information about the problems you are currently experiencing on a pastebin please. |
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| 09:49.44 | pucko- | thanks CQ |
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| 10:08.12 | gtristan | simple silly bash question, hope I'm not abusing the channel... I want to do: process_file $input > $output.tmp && check_file $output.tmp && mv -f $output.tmp $output || rm -f $output |
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| 10:09.05 | gtristan | But it doesnt really follow, I think the meaning is clear... but the || should be based on the return of check_file, not the return of mv |
| 10:09.14 | gtristan | eh, maybe I'll just use formal if clauses |
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| 10:15.50 | petn-randall | gtristan: Yeah, do proper conditions, it'll make the code more readable, too. |
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| 10:16.24 | gtristan | petn-randall, yeah I did so... good think I have a lot of experience with gnu make ;-) |
| 10:16.31 | gtristan | that's what caused my hesitation |
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| 10:16.43 | gtristan | always get bitten when escaping variables in make rules ;-) |
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| 10:19.31 | phre4k | why does this happen?: mount.cifs //jungfeld-server/ablage /mnt/ablage -o guest,multiuser,setuids,sec=krb5 (error message: mount error(5): Input/output error) |
| 10:20.13 | petn-randall | phre4k: Looks like the disk is broken. |
| 10:20.13 | Trieste | hi, is the shellshock bug patched in wheezy? |
| 10:20.16 | phre4k | petn-randall: wtf? The local disk? |
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| 10:20.41 | petn-randall | phre4k: The remote disk. Or it's a NFS error. Can you check /var/log/kern.log if there are any further messages? |
| 10:20.43 | babilen | dpkg: tell Trieste -about shellshock |
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| 10:20.58 | Trieste | thanks babilen! |
| 10:21.09 | phre4k | petn-randall: well, the Windows users can mount it and I can access the share via Thunar. |
| 10:21.20 | phre4k | petn-randall: it's SMB, not NFS |
| 10:21.27 | phre4k | syntax wrong maybe? :o |
| 10:22.11 | petn-randall | phre4k: Right, sorry. If there was an syntax error, the message would be different. What does /var/log/kern.log say? |
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| 10:24.50 | phre4k | petn-randall: only CIFS VFS: cifs_mount failed w/return code = -5 |
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| 10:30.34 | phre4k | petn-randall: sec=ntlm works, but I'd rather use krb5 |
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| 10:31.55 | phre4k | now I get "accessing /mnt/ablage not possible: insufficient rights (translated from german, sry) |
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| 10:32.22 | phre4k | but only if I want to open the folder as normal user. Which should work due to the "multiuser" mount option, right? |
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| 10:35.05 | eb0t | hey i have just installed i3 |
| 10:35.10 | eb0t | how do i use it |
| 10:35.15 | phre4k | eb0t: cool, RTFM |
| 10:35.29 | phre4k | eb0t: http://i3wm.org/docs/userguide.html |
| 10:35.33 | eb0t | i hav elooked under applications and under other ..it says i3...i click on it and it |
| 10:35.38 | eb0t | ah thanks phre4k |
| 10:35.52 | phre4k | eb0t: you choose it at login |
| 10:36.02 | eb0t | oh i see ...thanks |
| 10:36.54 | phre4k | :D if it only were so easy to help my users. |
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| 10:40.03 | osram | phre4k: if they were using i3 it'd be easier, I bet ;) |
| 10:40.07 | petn-randall | phre4k: I haven't used kerberos authentication with NTFS mounts yet, but I assume you have to set up the kerberos part on the client for it to work. Sorry, don't know much about Kerberos though. |
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| 10:40.51 | phre4k | osram: well, no. I bet they'd have to print out the keybindings and a complete step-by-step manual |
| 10:41.20 | phre4k | petn-randall: I found out what the damn problem is. UIDs on client and server don't match. OhmygodhowdoIresolvethis. |
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| 10:42.27 | petn-randall | phre4k: But that shouldn't produce an error "Input/output error", right? |
| 10:42.38 | petn-randall | phre4k: LDAP to the rescue :) |
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| 10:42.47 | osram | phre4k: maybe so. But if they'd be willing to go i3, they'd probably have a pretty good idea how to help themselves - was my point. |
| 10:43.25 | eb0t | hey i just restarted after installing i3 and it did not give me the option to boot into the i3 wm |
| 10:43.26 | phre4k | petn-randall: well, right. But it's part of the problem. i/o error in cifs apparently means the auth couldn't be established. The samba devs clearly need to implement more (and) meaningful error messages |
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| 10:43.43 | phre4k | osram: yeah, you may be right. |
| 10:44.00 | eb0t | hey osram i just want a quick look |
| 10:44.05 | phre4k | petn-randall: LDAP doesn't deserve the leading "L" |
| 10:44.12 | eb0t | dont want to sit down reading piles and piles of guides |
| 10:44.17 | eb0t | i just want to see it |
| 10:44.23 | phre4k | eb0t: it's not in the boot manager but in lightDM |
| 10:44.36 | osram | eb0t: i3 is awesome once you get the hang of it. |
| 10:44.39 | phre4k | eb0t: the thing you put your username and password in usually has a session chooser. |
| 10:44.45 | petn-randall | phre4k: You haven't seen X.500 then :) |
| 10:44.45 | osram | eb0t: but it'll take more than a quick look. |
| 10:44.54 | phre4k | petn-randall: oh god, the nightmares |
| 10:45.07 | eb0t | ah right ..i have installed gentoo with awesome window manager before and i really liked it once i had it sorted |
| 10:45.17 | eb0t | i believe i3 is sometihng a bit similar in operation |
| 10:45.32 | petn-randall | Yes, both are tiling WMs. |
| 10:45.43 | eb0t | yes it was fast as hell ot be honest |
| 10:46.00 | osram | eb0t: yep, they're kind of similar. |
| 10:46.03 | eb0t | the whole boot process in particular |
| 10:46.22 | eb0t | and i never even needed a mouse |
| 10:46.40 | eb0t | but thanks ill look in the menu for it |
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| 10:50.01 | Den | ciao |
| 10:50.11 | Den | !list |
| 10:50.12 | dpkg | den: Ã possibile scaricare un sacco di software libero puntando il tuo browser a http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current/multi-arch/iso-cd/debian-7.7.0-amd64-i386-netinst.iso ! |
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| 10:51.30 | eb0t | nice up and running |
| 10:51.34 | eb0t | whey hey |
| 10:51.53 | Den | c'è qualcuno che mi può aiutare???? grazie in anticipo |
| 10:52.15 | jelly-home | !it |
| 10:52.15 | dpkg | Ciao, vai su #debian-it per ricevere aiuto in italiano. Italian Speakers: Please use #debian-it, there you will get much more help. |
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| 10:53.05 | Den | grazie |
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| 11:07.40 | Amir1 | whats the best way to create instabllable ISO from an installed debian server? |
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| 11:20.21 | Amir1 | whats the best way to create instabllable ISO from an installed debian server? |
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| 11:23.37 | eb0t | hey sorry to ask ...but what is the dfault file manager called in debian |
| 11:23.51 | eb0t | i need to call it up in i3 but i need its name |
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| 11:30.47 | nkuttler | Amir1: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianCustomCD |
| 11:30.53 | nkuttler | !tell Amir1 about preseeding |
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| 11:32.34 | phre4k | eb0t: I believe it's Thunar for XFCE, but depends on the DE you installed ;) |
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| 11:46.54 | TandyUK | hi guys, my apache isnt actualy running php for some reason.. any idea why? |
| 11:47.23 | TandyUK | i installed with "apt-get install apache2 php5-common libapache2-mod-php5" and it installed various dependencies |
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| 11:47.57 | TandyUK | php -v says "PHP 5.4.34-0+deb7u1 (cli) (built: Oct 20 2014 09:46:02)", but apache just returns php source when asked for a .php page |
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| 11:48.23 | fraff | TandyUK: a2enmod php5 or somthing like that maybe ? |
| 11:49.12 | nkuttler | TandyUK: just a2enmod should give you a list |
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| 12:02.41 | cap3lla | hi all. I have a VG called "vgname" and there are two physical disks used. I want to remove disk 2 because I need it elsewhere. How do I find out which data is used on that particular /dev/sdb1 ? |
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| 12:04.04 | cap3lla | "pvdisplay" showing me for both disks (sda1+sdb1) that all is allocated. So how should I proceed to find out which data I have to move/delete to free my sdb1 ? |
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| 12:06.39 | cap3lla | "pvmove /dev/sdb1 /dev/sda1" doesn't work because it says there are no free extents available on sda1, but it should. My whole system is about 20GB in size, and disk /dev/sda1 is a 1000GB disk :( ??! |
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| 12:07.08 | osram | cap3lla: you're on the right track. |
| 12:07.18 | osram | cap3lla: just use pvmove /dev/sdb1 |
| 12:07.37 | osram | cap3lla: given enough free space that will move everything off /dev/sdb1 |
| 12:07.43 | cap3lla | osram: no extents available for move :( |
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| 12:08.19 | cap3lla | osram: when I run "pvdisplay" both disks are showing "Free PE = 0" that's weird. |
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| 12:09.46 | osram | cap3lla: why is that weird? Just means there's no free space in the PV |
| 12:10.54 | cap3lla | osram: Listen, when I run "du -sh" or "df -h" on the root / there is only about 15GB occupied. The disk sda is a 1TB disk so it should be possible to fit everything on sda. My question is: How do I move/remove/resize that thing ? |
| 12:11.19 | osram | cap3lla: How big are the logical volumes? |
| 12:11.30 | cap3lla | let me check |
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| 12:13.18 | cap3lla | osram: oh ok. I think I have to shrink the lv-home which is 1,5TB. That exactly is the LVM I want to shrink/remove, so I can remove physical disk sdb. I already freed everything in /home and unmounted it. So I first have to run "resize2fs" on home and then lvreduce on that lvm-home ? |
| 12:14.13 | osram | cap3lla: exactly |
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| 12:21.37 | critias | what is a good tool for analyzing logs? something via web? |
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| 12:24.18 | nkuttler | critias: what kind of logs? logstash? |
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| 12:25.49 | critias | apache logs, syslog... messages.. |
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| 12:26.02 | critias | any service really |
| 12:27.07 | TandyUK | a2enmod says php is enabled, so why does a .php page return php source code to the browser? |
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| 12:28.29 | TandyUK | disabling and re-anabling the mod has no effect either |
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| 12:31.45 | TandyUK | "sudo apt-get remove --purge apache2 php5 libapache2-mod-php5" "sudo apt-get autoremove" "sudo apt-get install php5 apache2 libapache2-mod-php5" "sudo a2enmod php5" "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 force-reload" |
| 12:31.57 | TandyUK | after all that, i STILL get php source returned by the browser |
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| 12:34.44 | armin | TandyUK: did you try an actual restart? |
| 12:35.48 | TandyUK | armin: yes repeatedly |
| 12:36.12 | jelly-home | TandyUK: not a "force-reload", a stop and start? |
| 12:36.15 | armin | TandyUK: you quoted a reload, not a restart. |
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| 12:36.35 | TandyUK | that was following someone elses 'fix' |
| 12:36.41 | TandyUK | didnt work either |
| 12:36.56 | TandyUK | full unistall and reinstall of apache/php and its config, and still i have no php |
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| 12:37.31 | TandyUK | "sudo apachectl -t -D DUMP_MODULES |
| 12:37.39 | TandyUK | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:38.08 | TandyUK | "php -v": PHP 5.4.34-0+deb7u1 (cli) (built: Oct 20 2014 09:46:02) |
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| 12:41.52 | armin | TandyUK: did you maybe try putting an index.php file along the index.html file for your tests? |
| 12:42.10 | TandyUK | there is only an index.php |
| 12:42.26 | TandyUK | any non php is fine |
| 12:42.30 | TandyUK | like kibana |
| 12:42.43 | armin | TandyUK: is there a php5.conf in /etc/apache2/mods-enabled ? |
| 12:42.45 | TandyUK | just php does not execute and instead the source code is given to the browser |
| 12:42.47 | TandyUK | yup |
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| 12:44.03 | TandyUK | /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/php5.conf and php5.load are present |
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| 12:45.15 | armin | TandyUK: did you *really* try an /etc/init.d/apache2 restart ? |
| 12:45.38 | TandyUK | ive rebooted the fucking machine |
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| 12:46.01 | TandyUK | cant get much more restarted than that |
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| 12:46.54 | TandyUK | im rebooting again for good measure |
| 12:46.56 | koowgnojeel | Hi |
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| 12:47.41 | thalos | TandyUK: What does your index.php look like? Remember that PHP5 dropped the "<?" syntax.. you have to use the "<?php" tag inside php files nowerdays |
| 12:47.58 | TandyUK | thalos: this worked fine for 2 weeks |
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| 12:48.01 | armin | TandyUK: hmm, and your /etc/apache2/mods-available/php5.conf *does* contain a line like this one? SetHandler application/x-httpd-php |
| 12:48.19 | TandyUK | somethign install nginx, so i completely removed both apache and nginx, and php, |
| 12:48.32 | TandyUK | then did a fresh install of apache/php |
| 12:48.38 | thalos | I see |
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| 12:49.11 | TandyUK | <FilesMatch ".+\.ph(p[345]?|t|tml)$"> |
| 12:49.11 | TandyUK | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:49.11 | TandyUK | </FilesMatch> |
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| 12:51.10 | koowgnojeel | I have appropriate non-free firmware on my second USB drive(/firmware and /) and plugged with USB-Netinstall media - reboot - Installer can't load firmware. // I did, shell - extract firmware file - copied them into /lib/firmware/ and /usr/ - also didn't work // I once done this but I don't know what went wrong, please anyone ? |
| 12:52.54 | koowgnojeel | tried both of these 1. /cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/wheezy/current (tarball) 2. /debian/pool/non-free/f/firmware-nonfree/ (deb package) |
| 12:53.07 | TandyUK | so any ideas? form what i see, php whoudl be running, i have no clue wh yit is not |
| 12:53.18 | koowgnojeel | https://wiki.debian.org/Firmware#Firmware_during_the_installation Firmware - Debian Wiki |
| 12:53.55 | EdePopede | hi, what is the state with /var/www atm? just seen http://stackoverflow.com/questions/21660621/why-has-the-apache2-www-dir-been-moved-to-var-www-html pointing to a mail from 4/2012 suggesting moving docroot to /var/ww/html â apache in wheezy has /var/www/index.html (and iirc some other httpd's put their hello world pages into that same place). |
| 12:53.55 | EdePopede | apache's 000-default has "DocumentRoot /var/www", what is suggested? keep or move manually? or simply let it there just as a "go away, nothing to see here!" page? not that it would be relevant on myprivate PC, but since i tend to try doing things right or not at all... what is the debian way to do it? |
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| 12:55.04 | koowgnojeel | TandyUK, Setting APM ? |
| 12:55.41 | koowgnojeel | (Nginx - I don't know about this.) |
| 12:56.50 | koowgnojeel | >_< How did I do this. |
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| 12:57.10 | koowgnojeel | How do I load firmware manually ? |
| 12:57.18 | thalos | EdePopede: I think (someone correct me on this) that it was moved to /var/www/html so that you could add other virtual hosts in /var/www without the default DocumentRoot potentially pointing to (and potentially have config that would allow you to) access other virtual hosts. I think the move to /var/www/html is sane and good and why not update it to conform to the new standard |
| 12:57.25 | koowgnojeel | during installation time |
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| 12:59.39 | TandyUK | koowgnojeel: setting APM? what do you mean? |
| 13:00.29 | koowgnojeel | TandyUK, Sorry, I misunderstood what you said. |
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| 13:01.00 | EdePopede | thalos: what do you think about hardlinking /var/www/html/index.html to the existing one? looks clean to me and shouldn't break anything. maybe even replacing 000-default with a symlink to my own version sites-available/default? |
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| 13:02.38 | thalos | EdePopede: As long as your default config doesn't set DocumentRoot to /var/www it's fine. Because it's the /var/www document root that is potentially) dangerous |
| 13:02.43 | thalos | -) |
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| 13:03.44 | EdePopede | maybe the FHS should be the first file to put onto the server :) |
| 13:04.08 | Nischal | Anyone using a Scheduled Backup Client that they would recommend? |
| 13:04.25 | petn-randall | !anyone |
| 13:04.25 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
| 13:04.26 | Nischal | I need something to Backup my Apache website files every end fo the week |
| 13:04.29 | thalos | TandyUK: Check /var/log/apache/error.log. Does the php module load? |
| 13:04.45 | TandyUK | yeah im goign drastic on its ass now |
| 13:04.52 | TandyUK | removed apache, php5, etc |
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| 13:05.03 | TandyUK | sudo rm -rf /etc/apache2 /etc/php5 |
| 13:05.09 | TandyUK | and install again from scratch |
| 13:05.10 | petn-randall | Nischal: Depending on what benefits you want to have on top, either rdiff-backup or bacula/bareos. |
| 13:05.30 | Nischal | <smart questions> |
| 13:05.45 | Nischal | @petn-randall Thankyou :-) |
| 13:06.09 | Nischal | @petn-randall I will check these out |
| 13:06.21 | petn-randall | got turned into a Perl array. |
| 13:06.29 | thalos | Nischal: I recommend rsync :) |
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| 13:06.51 | petn-randall | thalos: rsync alone is not enough for backups. |
| 13:07.40 | petn-randall | thalos: Imagine you accidentally rm -R a directory, and a minute later the rsync job kicks in and deletes that dir in your 'backup'. |
| 13:07.44 | thalos | petn-randall: True, but a well placed rsync in a cronjob will do wonders for him.. Still, you maybe right in that he's looking more for a solution :) |
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| 13:09.01 | petn-randall | thalos: Therefore you need some kind of backup rotation, and by the time you've scripted a working solution, you'll end up having an half-assed version of any field-tested backup solution out there. :) |
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| 13:11.32 | TandyUK | ok wtf |
| 13:12.06 | TandyUK | totally deleted apache/php, removed their conf directories from /etc, rebooted, reinstalled apache/php, and still no php is executed by apache |
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| 13:13.47 | koowgnojeel | I copied my firmware on both / and /firmware directories. Now it works. |
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| 13:15.38 | petn-randall | TandyUK: You sound as if that was unexpected. Try to debug the problem instead of guessing what could fix it. Are you running mod_php or php via cgi? |
| 13:16.01 | koowgnojeel | I think - plug firmware-USB time is important |
| 13:16.15 | TandyUK | mod_php |
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| 13:16.36 | TandyUK | i just cant comprehend how deleteign all configs, and reinstalling the program fro scratch, with its default config, can still not work |
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| 13:17.08 | TandyUK | something is a) not in a 'normal' place, and b) not removed by "apt-get remove --purge apache2" |
| 13:17.49 | koowgnojeel | maybe not |
| 13:17.55 | koowgnojeel | o_O |
| 13:17.57 | koowgnojeel | funny |
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| 13:22.10 | koowgnojeel | Not working |
| 13:22.44 | koowgnojeel | It just not asking me firmware |
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| 13:24.50 | Brigo | koowgnojeel, /lib/firmware is the right place |
| 13:25.05 | koowgnojeel | Brigo, Thanks :) |
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| 13:30.54 | TandyUK | woohoo progress... now i have error 500 rather than php source |
| 13:31.03 | TandyUK | but no clue why the 500 happens |
| 13:31.13 | TandyUK | nothing in the error log |
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| 13:32.39 | koowgnojeel | Brigo, Graphical installer did it, @_@ first one(normal installer) didn't work. |
| 13:33.43 | koowgnojeel | Nope Sorry |
| 13:33.55 | koowgnojeel | I'm too fast >_< It is still same |
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| 13:39.17 | koowgnojeel | http://superuser.com/questions/762167/debian-7-failure-of-key-exchange-and-association <-- This is my problem. |
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| 13:39.48 | Brigo | koowgnojeel, are you using the live cd?? |
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| 13:40.42 | koowgnojeel | Brigo, No netinst :) |
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| 13:44.37 | LordDeath | https://packages.debian.org/de/sid/owncloud version 7.0.3 has new security bugfixes. will this update come to wheezy-backports or what is going to happen now after the jessie freeze? |
| 13:44.46 | Brigo | koowgnojeel, taht is your fail?: The exchange of keys and association with the access point |
| 13:44.46 | Brigo | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:44.56 | Brigo | ,v owncloud |
| 13:44.56 | judd | Package: owncloud on i386 -- wheezy-backports: 7.0.2+dfsg-1~bpo70+2; jessie: 7.0.3~rc2~20141023+dfsg-1; sid: 7.0.3+dfsg-1 |
| 13:45.11 | koowgnojeel | Brigo, Yes same error message :) |
| 13:45.26 | Brigo | lord4163, ask in debian-backports in ofct network |
| 13:45.43 | lord4163 | Brigo: no |
| 13:45.55 | LordDeath | :) |
| 13:46.22 | Brigo | lord4163, no what? |
| 13:46.53 | lord4163 | I'm not death :D |
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| 13:47.26 | koowgnojeel | Brigo, It works now >_< I don't know why (?) I waited and tried again, It was second screen. |
| 13:47.43 | koowgnojeel | I'm gonna find out why :P |
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| 13:49.04 | Brigo | koowgnojeel, start here: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=687488 |
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| 13:49.27 | Brigo | lord4163, i cannot understand you, sorry. |
| 13:49.51 | lord4163 | Brigo: /me !== LordDeath :D |
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| 13:50.23 | Brigo | oh!, sorry. lord4163 i am a bit sleeped :) |
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| 13:50.38 | Brigo | LordDeath, , ask in debian-backports in ofct network |
| 13:50.43 | lord4163 | np :D |
| 13:51.02 | LordDeath | it seems like they are already on it: https://lists.debian.org/debian-backports/2014/11/msg00038.html |
| 13:51.34 | koowgnojeel | Brigo, Now it works at once. Maybe it requires a couple of booting to make wifi-device work. Thanks :) |
| 13:51.47 | Brigo | koowgnojeel, np :) |
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| 13:55.48 | TandyUK | apparantly "apt-get install" is rather lazy |
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| 13:55.59 | TandyUK | i had to force a reinstall of half my system to get workign again |
| 13:56.29 | TandyUK | apt-get --reinstall install libapache2-mod-php5 php5-cli php5-mysql php5-gd php5-snmp php-pear snmp graphviz php5-mcrypt php5-json subversion mysql-server mysql-client rrdtool fping imagemagick whois mtr-tiny nmap ipmitool python-mysqldb |
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| 14:00.57 | petn-randall | !tell TandyUK -about confmiss |
| 14:01.21 | petn-randall | TandyUK: a 500 error sounds like you're using fcgi or fastcgi to run PHP. |
| 14:02.20 | petn-randall | TandyUK: Also check what the bot sent; if you delete config, it is assumed you want it to stay gone. |
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| 14:02.56 | TandyUK | petn-randall: the point ws i deleted *everything* because a reinstall woudlnt fix it |
| 14:03.03 | TandyUK | **using apt** |
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| 14:03.31 | TandyUK | so i assume tellign apt, "apt-get remove --purge blah", followed by "apt-get install blah" will *actually* reinstall the package |
| 14:03.32 | petn-randall | TandyUK: Read again what the bot sent you, this is expected behaviour. |
| 14:03.38 | TandyUK | yeah expected, nd bullshit |
| 14:03.55 | TandyUK | i removed the package, not *just* the config |
| 14:04.02 | petn-randall | TandyUK: If you delete the config before purging, apt will assume you don't want it to put the config back in place. |
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| 14:04.15 | TandyUK | literally every single trace of apache got removed, to simulate an OS reinstall |
| 14:04.37 | TandyUK | it was apt-get --purge, rm -rf anything left behind, apt-get install |
| 14:04.47 | petn-randall | TandyUK: No, you did it the other way around. |
| 14:04.54 | petn-randall | TandyUK: And *that* matters. |
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| 14:05.15 | TandyUK | it still didnt work actually. |
| 14:05.22 | petn-randall | !doesnt work |
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| 14:05.22 | dpkg | "Doesn't work" is a vague statement. Does it sit on the couch all day long? Does it procrastinate doing the dishes? Does it beg on the street for change? Please be specific! Define 'it' and what it isn't doing. Give us more details so we can help you without needing to ask basic questions like "what's the error message?". Ask me about <smart questions>, <sicco> and <errors>. |
| 14:05.40 | TandyUK | !fucking let me type |
| 14:05.40 | dpkg | dunno, try without swearing, maybe. :-P |
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| 14:06.11 | TandyUK | i had to manually recreate /etc/php5/mods-available and copy the contents or /usr/share/php5/...../xxxx.conf in before php5enmod woudl work again |
| 14:06.26 | TandyUK | and that was *after* apt-get install --reinstall ..... |
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| 14:09.10 | petn-randall | TandyUK: Look, you did following steps 1) delete the config 2) apt-get purge <packages> 3) apt-get install <packages> 4) wonder why the config still is gone and it "doesn't work". |
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| 14:10.00 | petn-randall | TandyUK: Because of step 1), you told apt "I don't want this config, and I don't want you to recreate it on reinstallation". |
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| 14:12.29 | petn-randall | TandyUK: If you want to recreate the default config, check what the bot sent you. |
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| 14:13.48 | TandyUK | petn-randall: i did apt-get --reinstall install blah |
| 14:14.01 | TandyUK | so i told it to put the damn config back to default, and it didnt |
| 14:14.07 | TandyUK | thats my idea of "doesnt work" |
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| 14:16.11 | petn-randall | TandyUK: What is the exact line you used? |
| 14:16.27 | TandyUK | i pasted it |
| 14:16.34 | TandyUK | apt-get --reinstall install libapache2-mod-php5 php5-cli php5-mysql php5-gd php5-snmp php-pear snmp graphviz php5-mcrypt php5-json subversion mysql-server mysql-client rrdtool fping imagemagick whois mtr-tiny nmap ipmitool python-mysqldb |
| 14:16.42 | TandyUK | i had to manually recreate /etc/php5/mods-available and copy the contents or /usr/share/php5/...../xxxx.conf in before php5enmod woudl work again |
| 14:16.49 | petn-randall | TandyUK: Then you failed to read what the bot sent you. |
| 14:17.03 | TandyUK | prior to that *no* php mods were enabled by the "apt-get --reinstall install" |
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| 14:17.25 | TandyUK | i ignore the bot cause it was talkign about aptitude |
| 14:17.30 | TandyUK | and pmed me without asking |
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| 14:17.41 | TandyUK | use the fucking channel jeez |
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| 14:17.49 | petn-randall | !next |
| 14:17.50 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
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| 14:18.07 | nkuttler | it's always nice to get some recognition for one's volunteer support work |
| 14:18.09 | koowgnojeel | I installed Debian without Desktop Environment, How could I connect to the Internet please ? I'm on VT now. |
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| 14:18.26 | nkuttler | koowgnojeel: what would you like to do on the internet? |
| 14:18.36 | koowgnojeel | nkuttler, To use apt |
| 14:18.44 | nkuttler | koowgnojeel: well, man 5 interfaces? |
| 14:18.46 | koowgnojeel | nkuttler, So I can have DE(ice-wm like one) |
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| 14:19.09 | Minnen | hola |
| 14:19.12 | nkuttler | koowgnojeel: or do you need to connect through a cable modem, dsl, etc? |
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| 14:19.22 | koowgnojeel | nkuttler, Wifi :) |
| 14:19.25 | Minnen | i changed the sudoers list, and included a line that reads "usrname (ALL:ALL) = ALL" and included my user in the group root, and i still cant access the root folder |
| 14:19.30 | Minnen | by the ui route i mean, *click* *click* |
| 14:19.37 | Minnen | any ideas? |
| 14:19.41 | Minnen | i dont want to change individual permission i want to grant my user (not the root) full access and permission |
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| 14:20.39 | nkuttler | koowgnojeel: you can use network-manager or wicd for that i guess |
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| 14:21.29 | Hohlraum | sorry if this has been asked, but anyone else getting failed fetches on their apt updates recently? "Bad header line" |
| 14:22.18 | mtn | koowgnojeel: https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration |
| 14:22.18 | koowgnojeel | nkuttler, I did, # ifconfig -> lo(only), Does this means I installed wrong ? |
| 14:22.30 | koowgnojeel | mtn, Thanks :) |
| 14:22.59 | koowgnojeel | Where is wlan0 >_< |
| 14:23.05 | nkuttler | koowgnojeel: also https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi |
| 14:23.19 | nkuttler | koowgnojeel: ifconfig wlan0 up? |
| 14:23.24 | nkuttler | koowgnojeel: see also iwconfig |
| 14:23.31 | koowgnojeel | nkuttler, :o |
| 14:24.00 | koowgnojeel | Thanks :) How I can see my wifi light is blue(on) |
| 14:24.07 | koowgnojeel | How->Now |
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| 14:29.22 | Sagar | hello i am using debian wheezy 7 with mysql 14.14. how can i enable my mysql to accept remote connections (using server ip) as well as local connections (using 127.0.0.1 or localhost) thanks |
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| 14:31.37 | jelly-home | Sagar: um, there's no mysql 14.14 |
| 14:31.47 | jelly-home | ,v mysql-server-5.5 |
| 14:31.48 | judd | Package: mysql-server-5.5 on i386 -- wheezy: 5.5.38-0+wheezy1; sid: 5.5.39-1; jessie: 5.5.39-1; wheezy-security: 5.5.40-0+wheezy1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 5.5.40-0+wheezy1 |
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| 14:32.06 | Sagar | root@atom:~# mysql --version |
| 14:32.07 | Sagar | mysql Ver 14.14 Distrib 5.5.40, for debian-linux-gnu (x86_64) using readline 6.2 |
| 14:33.32 | jelly-home | Sagar: look at bind-address in /etc/mysql/my.cnf, and restart the service after changing it |
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| 14:34.39 | EdePopede | Your choices are: default default-ssl -//- Which site(s) do you want to enable (wildcards ok)? <-- i hope, a2(dis|en)(site|mod) can handlo more than just those from the apache packages? until now it doesn't react on my own file in sites-available |
| 14:34.41 | jelly-home | I didn't know the cli client had a version of its own. |
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| 14:35.25 | Sagar | jelly: when i put bind-address= myserver ip and local ip, it just work on server ip not the local ip |
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| 14:37.05 | JordiGH | Holy shit, everyone's resigning! |
| 14:37.26 | petn-randall | JordiGH: Sounds like it's better suited for #d-o |
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| 14:38.55 | jelly-home | Sagar: I don't know enough about the syntax there to help you with multiple listeners. |
| 14:39.36 | jelly-home | if you're happy with mysqld listening on _every_ interface, try putting in 0.0.0.0 |
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| 14:40.25 | SirLagz | has anyone come across the following error message before - Inconsistency detected by ld.so: dl-load.c: 772: _dl_init_paths: Assertion `pelem->dirname[0] == '/'' failed! |
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| 14:40.40 | SirLagz | i get that error when I boot one of my boxes after i had a power outage |
| 14:40.59 | SirLagz | the box has Deb installed on a USB stick, so I've pulled it out and plugged it into another machine, fsck and badblocks seems all good |
| 14:41.22 | SirLagz | debsums only shows a module and a locale.py file as being changed |
| 14:41.23 | petn-randall | SirLagz: Use debsums to check if the installation is consistent. |
| 14:41.31 | leni1 | Hello all. Trying to install irssi-0.8.17 on my machine. I'm stumped as to what to do after unpacking the tar.gz file. |
| 14:41.44 | leni1 | Can someone help me out with some hints?? |
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| 14:42.13 | SirLagz | petn-randall: I can't see the locale.py file being an issue, and the module is not part of the kernel that I'm attempting to boot |
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| 14:43.16 | brentaarnold | Good morning. In Debian 7.7 my libnss3/libnss3-ld libraries are 3.14.x. How do I upgrade these to the latest 3.16.x? |
| 14:43.21 | petn-randall | ,v irssi |
| 14:43.21 | SirLagz | petn-randall: from my googling, it would seem to point to libc perhaps ? but debsums didn't show any libc files as being inconsistent |
| 14:43.21 | judd | Package: irssi on i386 -- squeeze: 0.8.15-2; squeeze-backports: 0.8.15-5~bpo60+1+b1; wheezy: 0.8.15-5; wheezy-backports: 0.8.17-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 0.8.17-1; sid: 0.8.17-1 |
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| 14:43.57 | petn-randall | leni1: irssi is in the current release. Is there a reason you're not using the packaged version? |
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| 14:46.52 | leni1 | yeah. apt-cache search doesn't show it |
| 14:48.22 | SirLagz | might just rebuild this box :( this error is too odd for me to figure out :( |
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| 14:53.39 | brentaarnold | Good morning. In Debian 7.7 my libnss3/libnss3-ld libraries are 3.14.x. How do I upgrade these to the latest 3.16.x? |
| 14:53.53 | val_erie | Hi, can someone direct me to instructions on how to install Debian from a USB flash drive using cat command? |
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| 14:54.11 | SirLagz | val_erie: do you mean how to flash an ISO onto a USB stick ? |
| 14:54.20 | mtn | brentaarnold: unless they are in backports, I will guess you don't. |
| 14:54.33 | SirLagz | ,v libnss3 |
| 14:54.34 | judd | Package: libnss3 on i386 -- squeeze-backports: 2:3.14.5-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 2:3.14.5-1+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 2:3.14.5-1+deb7u3; jessie: 2:3.17.2-1; sid: 2:3.17.2-1 |
| 14:55.17 | brentaarnold | I want to be able to watch Netflix natively on Chrome on Debian Wheezy :( |
| 14:55.30 | brentaarnold | Need libnss3 3.16.x |
| 14:55.36 | mtn | brentaarnold: running jessie might be an option for you. |
| 14:55.40 | SirLagz | brentaarnold: use Jessie ? |
| 14:56.22 | brentaarnold | mtn: SirLagz: Is Jessie Debian 8? |
| 14:56.31 | mtn | brentaarnold: yes |
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| 14:56.40 | mtn | brentaarnold: it will be in a while, anyway |
| 14:56.52 | val_erie | SirLagz, yes. I do not have a dvd drive, so I would like to transfer an ISO into a USB stick and boot from it |
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| 14:57.18 | SirLagz | val_erie: dd if=isofile.iso of=/dev/sdb <-- replace /dev/sdb with the usb stick |
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| 14:57.30 | brentaarnold | mtn: Can I upgrade from Wheezy to Jessie pretty easily? Is it as easily as booting to a Jessie USB and selecting upgrade? |
| 14:57.30 | SirLagz | val_erie: there's some BS=something as well that's recommended |
| 14:57.31 | mtn | val_erie: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en |
| 14:57.45 | mtn | !tell brentaarnold about testing |
| 14:58.25 | mtn | brentaarnold: basically put jessie in your sources instead of wheezy, but read the link first. |
| 14:58.26 | SirLagz | val_erie: https://wiki.debian.org/BootUsb |
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| 14:59.14 | brentaarnold | mtn: Unfortunately I'm going to go ahead and make the decision that my affinity to watch Netflix natively comes second to my running VM's on this Debian 7 host :P |
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| 14:59.34 | mtn | brentaarnold: sounds like a wise decision |
| 14:59.36 | brentaarnold | So I'll just stick with the current stable release |
| 14:59.43 | EdePopede | nb: never copy /etc/$whatever to your $HOME just to keep a clean copy. at least put it into a .tgz -.- |
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| 15:02.17 | SirLagz | EdePopede: or a subdirectory :P |
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| 15:03.20 | EdePopede | SirLagz: what i did. only, i looked into that one instead of /etc/apache2 while trying to change the stuff neeed to use /var/www/html |
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| 15:14.04 | Minnen | this is how they threat people in the debian channel in efnet http://pastebin.com/XUWU6v0g |
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| 15:17.16 | jelly-home | Minnen: policy of other channels isn't really topical here, keep to tech support issues. A modest amount of ranting _might_ be tolerated in out social channel, #debian-offtopic, but keep it out of here please. |
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| 15:18.16 | SirLagz | the box has Deb installed on a USB stick, so I've pulled it out and plugged it into another machine, fsck and badblocks seems all goodas joined #debian |
| 15:19.55 | Minnen | can u help me with what im trying to achieve jelly-home? |
| 15:20.06 | Minnen | cant remember if it was explained in the paste |
| 15:20.34 | Minnen | its about granting a user the same access level/permissions as root |
| 15:20.37 | mtn | !tell Minnen about ask |
| 15:20.42 | Minnen | in a definitive way |
| 15:21.08 | Minnen | mtn not really helpful in this case |
| 15:21.19 | Minnen | but i will keep it in mind for future questions |
| 15:21.32 | mtn | Minnen: what? asking clear questions is not helpful? you gotta be kidding. |
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| 15:22.29 | Minnen | i didt said its not helpful as in general i said for this particular case its not |
| 15:22.42 | Minnen | i don't have any errors or issues or w/e |
| 15:22.51 | SirLagz | whoa. keyboard just had a heart attack or something =/ |
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| 15:23.26 | mtn | Minnen: good! no issues, no question. |
| 15:23.51 | hspcd | Hi all - we're looking into commercial and FOSS solutions for centralized user management and role based access (we use Active Directory). Does anyone have any significant experience with this who can share some first-hand knowledge and/or recommend FOSS solutions? |
| 15:23.53 | Minnen | i want to know how to achieve something, which is granting a user the same access level/permissions as the user root in a definitive and "global" way, if its of any relevance my version is 7 |
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| 15:24.15 | SirLagz | Minnen: why do you want to do that ? |
| 15:24.24 | mtn | Minnen: isn't sudo what you want? look at the debian wiki |
| 15:24.43 | Minnen | mtn, dude really, if you dont want to give me a hand just ignore me im tired of dealing aggressions for the day |
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| 15:25.00 | mtn | Minnen: you might want to look in a mirror ;) |
| 15:25.21 | Minnen | will do, just pretend im not here and let someone else answer my question |
| 15:25.23 | Bartleby | :Minnen Could you say why sudo is insufficient? Your use-case will help in figuring out the best solution. |
| 15:25.32 | Minnen | yes |
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| 15:26.30 | Minnen | because i want the permissions to be permanent and not having the need to add absolutely anything before any command |
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| 15:26.54 | SirLagz | Minnen: why not just run sudo -i then ? |
| 15:27.04 | Bartleby | Minnen: So is it simply a matter of convenience, or is it neccesary for some sort of script or system thing? |
| 15:27.07 | Minnen | i.e. open the root folder (ui way) and installing things without the "su" or "sudo" cmnd |
| 15:27.25 | SirLagz | Minnen: open what root folder ? |
| 15:27.42 | Minnen | thats relative Bartleby, lets just say in my particular case is mandatory for system usage |
| 15:28.32 | `Kevin | whats the point of user accounts for you then? |
| 15:28.37 | Bartleby | Minnen: Could you say why? This might sound like arbitrary questioning of your motives, but there are very few use cases in which that is advisable, and it's difficult to determine which one yours is. |
| 15:30.02 | Minnen | i know its advisable im not really worried about system stability/security or any other potential threat of having a user with the same access level/permissions as root |
| 15:30.15 | petn-randall | hspcd: Yes, there are a few dozen directory services also for Debian. Could you be more specific with your question? |
| 15:30.24 | SirLagz | Minnen: well you could always just log in as root then ? |
| 15:30.55 | Minnen | the extra "su", "sudo", and dealing with constant "access denied" pop ups its not worth the "security" to me |
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| 15:31.22 | SirLagz | Minnen: serious question - why not just use Windows ? |
| 15:31.41 | petn-randall | Sorry Minnen, we won't help you with shooting yourself in the foot, you'll have to do that yourself. |
| 15:31.52 | mtn | heh |
| 15:31.55 | SirLagz | petn-randall: i like your phrasing :D |
| 15:32.02 | Bartleby | Minnen: we're talking about a difference of 2 characters that compromise the fundamental security of your system. |
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| 15:32.27 | Minnen | SirLagz i have, that was my first solution, but then again, i want to learn how to do this, i want to log in as root i want my user with the same permissions, its a matter of learning how to do something rather than finding the easiest way, your solution is valid tho, thanks but i need something else |
| 15:32.47 | SirLagz | Minnen: well the proper way in Linux - you don't do what you're trying to do. |
| 15:33.02 | petn-randall | !next |
| 15:33.02 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
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| 15:33.14 | Bartleby | Minnen: Ok, there is something that might |
| 15:33.32 | Minnen | seriously guys, i know you don't like it but make an exception and tell me how to achieve what i want |
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| 15:34.02 | petn-randall | Minnen: We won't tell you how to break your system. You'll have to figure it out yourself. We won't give bad advise. Sorry. |
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| 15:34.04 | Bartleby | Minnen: http://askubuntu.com/questions/74054/run-apt-get-without-sudo |
| 15:34.37 | Minnen | i already did that Bartleby |
| 15:34.58 | Minnen | i changed the sudoers and also added the user in the root group |
| 15:35.06 | Bartleby | Minnen: Generally, when you're looking for bad advice that compromises your system in the name of an extremely small gain in convenience, the Ubuntu community has the best resources. |
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| 15:35.39 | Minnen | and i still run into "access denied" when trying to access root folder and i when a command is "sudo" required in terminal |
| 15:35.40 | Bartleby | Minnen: You should try asking there. |
| 15:35.48 | jelly-home | Minnen: what you want to do goes against some of the basic assumptions about unix permissions and unix privilege separation. |
| 15:36.07 | SirLagz | Minnen: I can now see why you had the response you did on EFnet. |
| 15:36.30 | jelly-home | Minnen: if you want to have all those permissions available, just be root. |
| 15:36.53 | fraff | Minnen: your answer is in your pastebin, somebody already gave it to you |
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| 15:37.12 | Minnen | the uid=0? |
| 15:37.15 | SirLagz | Minnen: yes |
| 15:37.20 | SirLagz | Minnen: or, just log in as root. |
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| 15:37.43 | jelly-home | Minnen: log in as root, do everything as root, and be unsupported as you're doing things explicitely the unsupported way. |
| 15:38.47 | Bartleby | You can even add an icon to whatever wm you use to open a terminal as root when you need it. |
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| 15:39.31 | Minnen | yes, logging in as root does basically what i want, but once again i wanted to grant another user that kind of permissions, plus by logging in as root some packages/programs wont run, as a "security measure" |
| 15:39.54 | Bartleby | Minnen: Try #ubuntu. They are probably more knowledgeable about this topic. |
| 15:39.59 | jelly-home | Minnen: there are no security measures in your scenario. None. |
| 15:40.06 | Minnen | i know |
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| 15:40.11 | `Kevin | Minnen: if you are making large changes that require privileges simply login as root... when you are done making said changes drop root access... You shouldn't be authing to root over and over |
| 15:40.11 | Minnen | im ok with that |
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| 15:40.27 | `Kevin | if that doesnt work for you run as root, |
| 15:40.34 | `Kevin | shakes head |
| 15:40.37 | mtn | is catching the whiff of troll |
| 15:40.39 | SirLagz | lol |
| 15:40.51 | SirLagz | well, you guys enjoy yourself, I'm off to sleep. |
| 15:40.59 | gp5st | Will systemd be required in coming versions, or will other init system remain supported? I've been a little confused reading around and figured someone here could point me at the definite answer:) |
| 15:41.01 | jelly-home | Minnen: in addition to those few apps that have an explicit check, LOTS of other stuff won't work correctly. |
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| 15:41.18 | SirLagz | gp5st: systemd will be the default from Jessie forward IIRC |
| 15:41.23 | Minnen | logged as root jelly-home? |
| 15:41.28 | jelly-home | Minnen: indeed. |
| 15:41.29 | babilen | gp5st: systemd will merely be the default init system. Support for other init systems will explicitly not be dropped however. |
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| 15:41.44 | mtn | gp5st: but other init systems will be supported, as far as we know. |
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| 15:41.57 | SirLagz | so when I install Jessie next, first thing I'll do is apt-get remove systemd :P |
| 15:42.00 | SirLagz | anyway. sleep. |
| 15:42.00 | gp5st | SirLagz: babilen: mtn: thanks, that's what I was looking to know :) |
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| 15:42.22 | Minnen | i guess changing the sudoers, adding the user to the root group and manually edit /etc/passwd to reflect the new uid will do what i want |
| 15:43.20 | jelly-home | Minnen: not really. You'll be able to log in as user "foo" with uid 0, but all the library calls will still think uid 0 maps to "root" |
| 15:43.22 | mtn | I never understood wanting to turn linux into windows :P |
| 15:43.44 | babilen | gp5st: You might, however, see a degradation in functionality if software explicitly requires some systemd specific functionality. There is definitely a lot of work being done on enabling users to use a wide variety of init systems, but it remains to be seen how far that will get us. So far logind functionality seems to have been implemented to a reasonable degree in systemd-shim |
| 15:43.45 | Bartleby | Minnen: Your guess is as good as any. Good luck with your alternate* and equally valid* lifestyle. |
| 15:44.03 | babilen | gp5st: That being said: systemd comes with quite a number of features that you might enjoy a lot |
| 15:44.05 | jelly-home | Minnen: it's an interesting exercise to do, but not a feasible environment to work with long term. |
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| 15:44.47 | Minnen | [12:43] <jelly-home> Minnen: not really. You'll be able to log in as user "foo" with uid 0, but all the library calls will still think uid 0 maps to "root" - i see what i mean |
| 15:45.14 | Minnen | i doubt i will ran into the same kind of "security" issues i did when i logged in directly as root |
| 15:45.17 | jelly-home | Minnen: sorry? |
| 15:45.28 | Minnen | but only the time will tell |
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| 15:45.37 | Minnen | sorry what? |
| 15:45.45 | gp5st | babilen: I'm just not keen on switching to such a green and large suite at the moment. |
| 15:45.53 | livetvstream | has this bug been fixed in wheezy??? https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=699416 |
| 15:46.03 | jelly-home | Minnen: what did you mean by " - i see what i mean" :-) |
| 15:46.22 | Bartleby | Minnen: Only time, or any of the people on this channel who already know, and are telling you explicitly how it will turn out. |
| 15:46.23 | Minnen | oh that i understood your point |
| 15:46.29 | EdePopede | flattr doesn't work in irc, right? so just a +1 to Bartleby for the one with ubuntu ;) |
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| 15:46.46 | jelly-home | doubtfully. Still, it's an intereting thing to do. |
| 15:47.20 | babilen | livetvstream: wheezy is, also in regards to bugs, stable (i.e. "not changing") -- if the commit was/is in the version in wheezy then, yes, it would have been fixed. |
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| 15:48.58 | Minnen | the probability of completely mess up my setup its not really a concern to me, i want to use debian, and when i say use i mean doing anything i can think of even if its un-advised |
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| 15:49.23 | Minnen | i appreciate the concern it shows a level of real interest |
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| 15:49.50 | livetvstream | babilen, well it seems the bug remains unfixed: http://hastebin.com/guzosehiqi.vhdl |
| 15:50.11 | babilen | livetvstream: There you go then. It will also not be fixed. |
| 15:50.40 | livetvstream | will not be fixed?? why? |
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| 15:51.44 | livetvstream | babilen, that bug is a showstopper! |
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| 15:53.18 | babilen | dpkg: tell livetvstream -about stable |
| 15:53.40 | livetvstream | The bug was reported on 31 Jan 2013, that is before was released. I assume when wheezy was frozen and bugs were quashed! |
| 15:53.52 | livetvstream | The bug was reported on 31 Jan 2013, that is before wheezy was released. I assume when wheezy was frozen and bugs were quashed! |
| 15:54.05 | babilen | It obviously wasn't fixed and wheezy released with it. |
| 15:54.17 | hspcd | petn-randall: We need to evaluate FOSS solutions for authenticating Linux users, with varying roles, against our Active Directory domain. We need to have a way to manage user roles and permissions and access as well so I think we're going to have to do some custom sudo work as a part of this. We're in a heavily regulated (US) industry and security is paramount. |
| 15:54.37 | livetvstream | babilen, so what can i do to overcome the issue? |
| 15:55.08 | EdePopede | may i guess: bayckport? |
| 15:55.11 | EdePopede | -y |
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| 15:55.53 | rick88 | Hey guys. I recently installed debian next to my Win8.1 parition, and am having trouble getting access to it. I'm confused on a couple points when trying to trouble shoot it myself. |
| 15:55.53 | livetvstream | there is no smplayer backport |
| 15:56.04 | babilen | All the cool kids are using mpv these days anyway |
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| 15:56.26 | babilen | (which isn't available in wheezy either) |
| 15:56.31 | livetvstream | EdePopede, correct me if i am wrong but your guess was wrong |
| 15:56.36 | rick88 | At first it would just boot straight into Windows, and then I installed EasyBCD but that didn't fix anything, later finding out EasyBCD isn't supported on EFI hardware. |
| 15:56.54 | rick88 | When prompted to add a EFI parition in the Debian install, I choose not too. Should I have? |
| 15:57.27 | EdePopede | livetvstream: may be, i don't insist in being right all the time. that's why i prefer tu guess instead of giving advice when i am not sure ;) |
| 15:57.29 | babilen | livetvstream: You can backports mplayer2/mvp from jessie or sid (cf. <ssb>) or upgrade to either manually. You can compile the newest release of those softwares manually and install it to /usr/local (see <usrlocal> and <stow usage> for further information about that) -- /msg dpkg ssb |
| 15:57.44 | livetvstream | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:57.51 | babilen | livetvstream: How so? |
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| 15:58.15 | relaxed | livetvstream: I recommend https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv-build |
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| 15:58.43 | livetvstream | babilen, could you please tell me how can i backport smplayer from jessie? I am a desktop newbie |
| 15:58.54 | babilen | "/msg dpkg ssb" -- https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer#severities |
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| 16:00.16 | Bluewolf | Hi all, Just a quick one, how does one ping a server through the terminal to see the latency of ones internet? I.E for Diablo 3 or WOW? |
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| 16:00.47 | rick88 | ping |
| 16:00.51 | rick88 | <server> |
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| 16:02.08 | somiaj | traceroute is also a useful tool if you think the ping is unreasonably slow |
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| 16:03.58 | jelly-home | livetvstream: that bug seems to be for mplayer2, not smplayer? |
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| 16:04.10 | livetvstream | how can i install the jessie deb for smplayer on wheezy? aptitude -t wheezy-backports install smplayer renders me with the wheezy smplayer version! |
| 16:04.19 | jelly-home | ,v mplayer2 |
| 16:04.20 | judd | Package: mplayer2 on i386 -- squeeze-backports: 2.0-554-gf63dbad-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 2.0-554-gf63dbad-1+b1; jessie: 2.0-728-g2c378c7-4+b1; sid: 2.0-728-g2c378c7-4+b1; wheezy-multimedia: 1:2.0~git20120817-dmo1; sid-multimedia: 1:2.0~git20130903-dmo4; jessie-multimedia: 1:2.0~git20130903-dmo4 |
| 16:04.34 | jelly-home | ,v mpv |
| 16:04.35 | judd | Package: mpv on i386 -- jessie: 0.6.2-2; sid: 0.6.2-2; experimental: 0.6.2-2+ffmpeg; sid-multimedia: 1:0.6.2-dmo1; jessie-multimedia: 1:0.6.2-dmo1 |
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| 16:04.45 | jelly-home | eh, no backport for mpv |
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| 16:05.32 | Bluewolf | rick88: Okay so its as simple as "ping 12.129.209.68"? |
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| 16:06.03 | babilen | dpkg: tell livetvstream -about ssb |
| 16:06.11 | rick88 | Bluewolf, yes. Use the -c option to set a limit of how many times you want it to ping. I'm pretty sure it's -c |
| 16:06.16 | Bluewolf | babilen: Hey man :D |
| 16:06.18 | Bluewolf | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:06.29 | rick88 | OR it will just keep pinging until you stop it manually. |
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| 16:07.22 | Bluewolf | rick88: Thanks |
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| 16:20.14 | petn-randall | hspcd: You can tell libpam to authenticate against active directory, so you can keep you whole user management there. So yeah, it's technically all possible. |
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| 16:31.54 | dizzylizzy | how can I see all held packages? |
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| 16:32.18 | eb0t | hey i upgraded my debian and now i have iceweasle and no matter what i do |
| 16:32.37 | eb0t | sorry its come up |
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| 16:34.37 | eb0t | hey on debian ..when i make iceweasle full screen ...i can see my tabs but i cant see my bookmarks or my file menu |
| 16:34.39 | eb0t | any ideas |
| 16:34.48 | eb0t | when the screen is smaller they are there |
| 16:34.54 | Cpuroast | dizzylizzy: it will tell you when you do apt-get upgrade |
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| 16:35.36 | jelly-home | !tell dizzylizzy about hold list |
| 16:36.13 | jhutchins | eb0t: F11 full screen hides them. Mouse-click on the full screen window should preserve them. |
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| 16:36.42 | Bartleby | eb0t: Also, tap alt. |
| 16:36.47 | eb0t | thanks jhutchins just spent an hour trying to make them stick |
| 16:36.50 | eb0t | thanks |
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| 16:38.20 | eb0t | i dont think its going to work for me as im using i3wm so alt doesnt work and neither does full screen the screen is split with no icon on top i have to do alt f to get full screen |
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| 16:57.48 | g105b | An ssh server is set up so one has to log in as the main user, then su to the user who's files you want to interact with. How can this setup be used with scp, seeing as the files in question are 'hidden' behind another user? |
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| 17:00.06 | jhutchins | g105b: How about if the user on the "ssh server" initiates the transfer? |
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| 17:00.34 | g105b | jhutchins: how can I tell ssh to copy back to the local machine? |
| 17:01.01 | jhutchins | eb0t: I've found a mode with either FF or Chrome where full screen hides the bars unless you mouse to the top of the screen, when they appear. |
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| 17:01.42 | jhutchins | scp <file> [user@]local_machine:/<path>/. |
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| 17:08.12 | g105b | jhutchins: how can local_machine resolve to the actual local machine? Is there something I'm missing here? Do you mean the local machine has to be running sshd and exposed to the internet? |
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| 17:13.06 | jhutchins | g105b: Well, yes, I suppose so. |
| 17:13.55 | jhutchins | g105b: Perhaps transfer the files to the "main user", then retrieve them with that account. |
| 17:13.57 | g105b | jhutchins: hm ok, I just wondered/hoped that ssh was clever enough to know the path back to the local machine somehow. |
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| 17:17.13 | rgr | or simply make the foreign "other user's" files visible form the ssh login user. group them. |
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| 17:21.10 | jhutchins | rgr: Good idea. |
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| 17:36.22 | jelly-home | ,v grml-rescueboot |
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| 17:41.00 | gecko_x2 | hai |
| 17:41.19 | gecko_x2 | why does the debian installer want to use LVM when setting up an encrypted root? |
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| 17:41.56 | gecko_x2 | i just did it without LVM, and was just wondering about the reasoning |
| 17:44.49 | dondelelcaro | gecko_x2: using lvm on top of encryption makes a lot of things easier |
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| 17:45.05 | dondelelcaro | gecko_x2: and that way you only have to unlock one thing even if you have multiple partitions |
| 17:45.29 | dondelelcaro | gecko_x2: since you'll almost always at least have swap in addition to /, that's a pretty decent default. |
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| 17:45.47 | gecko_x2 | well i set up the swap with random keys |
| 17:46.38 | dondelelcaro | that's an option, but sometimes you use swap for hibernation |
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| 17:48.45 | gecko_x2 | ok.. well i don't have multiple partitions, but i'm gonna have another VHD mounted, also encrypted.. does that mean i'd have to use LVM if i want to mount the second VHD with the same key? |
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| 17:50.41 | gecko_x2 | (this is a VM guest so i don't need hibernation) |
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| 17:51.41 | dondelelcaro | gecko_x2: right; these are all reasons why it's a good default for Debian to do it that way, but it's totally OK to not do it that way |
| 17:52.29 | dondelelcaro | gecko_x2: re same key: I'm not sure. If you use lvm, then both of them would be unlocked... but you should be able to share the same key even though you have different partitions |
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| 17:52.49 | gecko_x2 | hmm maybe that was a dumb Q, but i dunno LVM.. on a scond HDD you'd use a separate LVM instance right? |
| 17:53.03 | nully | you dont have to |
| 17:53.09 | gecko_x2 | hmm |
| 17:53.13 | nully | you can join volumes together in the same LVM by adding them as a PV |
| 17:53.16 | dondelelcaro | right |
| 17:53.18 | nully | from there, you join thoes PVs to the same VG |
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| 17:53.28 | dondelelcaro | or you can use raid, or something else underneath lvm |
| 17:53.31 | gecko_x2 | thing is i hate LVM :) |
| 17:53.35 | nully | Raid is often faster. |
| 17:53.49 | gecko_x2 | well this is a custom build.. |
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| 17:53.53 | dondelelcaro | gecko_x2: there are a lot of things that LVM does really well |
| 17:53.53 | nully | or offers better data safty, depending on what you're going for. |
| 17:54.11 | nully | But, if you have two disks, of different sizes, and would like to pool the storage. LVM is probably the way to go. |
| 17:54.16 | dondelelcaro | gecko_x2: so you might want to reconsider. I used to resist lvm myself, but I now use it almost everywhere |
| 17:54.24 | gecko_x2 | well |
| 17:54.37 | nully | partitions dont offer dynamic resizing, and are usless in teh filed. |
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| 17:54.46 | nully | x.x |
| 17:54.50 | gecko_x2 | right |
| 17:54.57 | dondelelcaro | gecko_x2: snapshots, pvmove, partition resizing, etc. basically, any time things aren't going to be static, LVM beats every other option |
| 17:55.58 | gecko_x2 | well, i don't really need any LVM features.. i guess my only remaining question is i assume LUKS can handle mounting multiple HDD's (not partitions) using the same key as the encrypted root uses? |
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| 17:56.46 | dondelelcaro | probably... but if you're using multiple HDDs, you almost certainly actually want raid |
| 17:56.53 | gecko_x2 | or i could just give in and redo it with LVM :) |
| 17:57.02 | dondelelcaro | and you can do raid+luks+lvm, which would make it much easier. |
| 17:57.05 | gecko_x2 | no no.. this is a VM guest |
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| 17:57.31 | gecko_x2 | i have no need for raid |
| 17:57.45 | gecko_x2 | it's a very custom setup for a specific task |
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| 17:58.22 | gecko_x2 | it's a custom whonic workstation build where the second HDD will host the wallets and blockchains |
| 17:58.31 | gecko_x2 | whonix* |
| 17:58.52 | gecko_x2 | with dynamic VHD's |
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| 18:05.05 | gecko_x2 | anyways, your answers were most satisfactory, so thankyou :) |
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| 18:12.42 | bierdieb | im looking for assistance: i want to install steam on jessie/amd64/ with nvidia gfx. i had a freaking odyssey to install proprietary drivers (linux newbie). looks like there is a driver changing and i386 structure adding required to make that work. i fear that installation process, dont want to brick my system once again this week. may someone guide me doing that? Or maybe someone knows a really noobish- friendly step by step guide |
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| 18:43.22 | wald0 | i have a stupid question |
| 18:43.26 | rryoumaa | the installer can do encrypted root normally |
| 18:43.59 | wald0 | i have an eeepc and tried debian, but i noticed that the cpu was not at full freq set, in fact the widget didn't even loaded... it worked after to modprobe p4-clockmod |
| 18:44.05 | wald0 | the question is: why it is not loaded by default ? |
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| 18:44.34 | wald0 | or what can be the cause that is not by default? iirc there should be an entry in... udev conf files for that? |
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| 18:45.50 | somiaj | wald0: You may have to track down the cause yourself. Automatic loading of modules is not fail proof as some sort of logic has to detect you have the correct hardware, it could just be that the tools that do this didn't detect your hardware correctly. |
| 18:46.24 | somiaj | also I'm unsure the scope of hardware that is detected by udev and loading the correspoding modules |
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| 18:50.42 | marioxcc | hello. I want to use cgroups. I installed cgroup-bin. I noticed that lscgroup shows "cpuset,cpu,cpuacct,memory,devices,freezer,net_cls,blkio,perf_event:/", how can I umount this hierarchy? |
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| 18:55.08 | jelly-home | wald0: p4-clockmod is a rather primitive driver that matches too much hardware even if there are better options. I guess that's why it's not automatically loaded. |
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| 19:00.31 | marioxcc | nevermind, I realized that I have a line in my fstab that automatically mounted the cgroup |
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| 19:14.51 | dougied | Hello, I have added a new hard drive to my debian system, to use as a file server. Where should I mount it? |
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| 19:24.01 | urn | hey i'm setting up a private apt repo, and i'm building packages with fpm, which creates .deb as output. It seems like dput and other debian tools can only take a .changes, which fpm doesn't create. Are there any tools that can handle a .deb upload? |
| 19:24.28 | dltl | dougied: are you asking for a name the mount contest? what do you have on it |
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| 19:25.28 | r3n1c0n | hi |
| 19:26.13 | babilen | dpkg: tell urn -about mentors |
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| 19:26.55 | r3n1c0n | hello. how can i get the knoppix console/CLI colors in to debian? |
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| 19:30.24 | marioxcc | r3n1c0n: I don't know how those colors are, but take a look into coreutils info documentation. Seach for "color" |
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| 19:30.40 | marioxcc | There are some lines of code you can put in your shell starting script. |
| 19:31.06 | r3n1c0n | ok. So mission is to write a little script then? |
| 19:31.18 | r3n1c0n | its good for scripting though |
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| 19:31.33 | marioxcc | r3n1c0n: what do you mean? -> <r3n1c0n> its good for scripting though |
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| 19:33.11 | r3n1c0n | sor for grammer. I mean it is good to learn scripting and start using it. |
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| 19:35.05 | marioxcc | r3n1c0n: Yes, it's good to know how to do basic scripting. It saves many keystrokes if you script repetitive functions. |
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| 19:35.51 | marioxcc | r3n1c0n: For instance, I use QEMU/KVM to make a virtual machine with Debian (The host also runs Debian) where I test thing, so that I won't break my main system if something goes wrong. I start it using a small script. |
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| 19:36.51 | r3n1c0n | n1 |
| 19:36.52 | marioxcc | r3n1c0n: Also, even though BASH is a great piece of software, there are shells more with more capabilities for interactive use, such as FISH |
| 19:36.55 | marioxcc | ,package fish |
| 19:37.47 | marioxcc | r3n1c0n: well, take a look here <http://fishshell.com/>. I'm currently using FISH in the aforesaid virtual machine. |
| 19:38.21 | marioxcc | it works "out of the box", so I can suggest if you're a newbie or if you don't want to bother with learning more how to configure yet more software. |
| 19:38.34 | r3n1c0n | This is great...Even beter > fish. Thx man ;) awsome color scheme |
| 19:39.08 | r3n1c0n | this is already saves me time O_o |
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| 19:39.41 | r3n1c0n | that goos to the forever command |
| 19:39.53 | marioxcc | r3n1c0n: no problem. It seems like you're a newbie, so welcome and free feel to ask (but seraching is recomended before you do), I strongly sugget using *only* free as in freedom software, on moral and practical grounds. |
| 19:40.07 | marioxcc | Bear in mind that Bash also has auto completion with TAB and history search (with ctrl+r) |
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| 19:42.00 | Dreamix | marioxcc: it's good buth has a completely different syntax, than bash |
| 19:42.24 | marioxcc | Dreamix: yes, but it doesn't matter for interactive use, IMO. |
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| 19:42.58 | marioxcc | r3n1c0n: by the way, the debian wheezy version of fish is very old and has a vulnerability, I *think* <https://github.com/fish-shell/fish-shell/issues/1436>, use the lastst version instead. |
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| 19:43.31 | Dreamix | i've tied it before, but i lost my basic bash functionalities and leave it... |
| 19:43.55 | Dreamix | marioxcc: yeah it's good for interactive |
| 19:44.02 | Dreamix | even great |
| 19:44.15 | Dreamix | some automatic hints, etc. |
| 19:44.26 | marioxcc | Dreamix: what do you mean by "basic bash functionalities"? |
| 19:44.42 | Dreamix | okay |
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| 19:44.54 | marioxcc | if you mean, the abililty to run bash script, you can always invoke bash or any other program for that matter, so it shouldn't matter which shell you use for the CLI |
| 19:45.09 | Dreamix | export for example, simple for i cycles |
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| 19:45.43 | marioxcc | Dreamix: you can export variables with "set -x" |
| 19:45.50 | marioxcc | E.g: |
| 19:45.55 | marioxcc | set -x EDITOR emacs |
| 19:45.55 | marioxcc | :) |
| 19:45.58 | Dreamix | it's not that good for advanced users, with bash habbits |
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| 19:46.35 | Dreamix | okay, but there's some env exports sometimes, a lot of script to re-write |
| 19:47.11 | Dreamix | just not that easy to switch and start using it as fuck.. you know :) |
| 19:47.38 | marioxcc | Dreamix: env works as usual, also, I don't think that using FISH for scripting would be a great idea. I'd use Bash for trivial scripts and a GP programming language for bigger things, such as Common Lisp. |
| 19:47.50 | marioxcc | env EDITOR=emacs git commit -a |
| 19:47.54 | marioxcc | works in FISH -^ |
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| 19:48.25 | Dreamix | yah, maybe maybe :) |
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| 19:48.56 | Dreamix | but i am a bit old and lazy for such major migrations :) |
| 19:49.43 | marioxcc | well, my opinion is that it's not a major migration (we're talking about interactive use), but I have no problem if you chose to contiue using for instance, bash. I myself like Bash. |
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| 19:50.40 | Dreamix | Cheers :) |
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| 19:51.21 | marioxcc | Dreamix: I'm curious, which shell do you use then? |
| 19:51.46 | marioxcc | have you tried ZSH? I have heard good things about it, but I haven't seriously tried to configure and use it. |
| 19:52.01 | Dreamix | marioxcc: of course :) |
| 19:52.09 | Dreamix | bash* |
| 19:52.12 | marioxcc | ok |
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| 19:52.19 | Dreamix | the old vulnerable bash :) |
| 19:52.53 | marioxcc | Dreamix: well, shit happens. |
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| 19:54.01 | Dreamix | fcouse i still have fish installed :) |
| 19:54.05 | marioxcc | ok |
| 19:54.11 | Dreamix | root@powersat(~)# fish |
| 19:54.13 | Dreamix | Welcome to fish, the friendly interactive shell |
| 19:54.14 | Dreamix | Type help for instructions on how to use fish |
| 19:54.16 | Dreamix | root@powersat ~# |
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| 19:54.18 | Dreamix | yeah :) |
| 19:54.50 | marioxcc | Dreamix: right. if you're using an old version, consider updating because of the vulnerability I mentioned above |
| 19:55.11 | marioxcc | the major thing I don't like about fish is "fishd", but it seems like it's gone in the git repository "master" branch |
| 19:55.19 | Dreamix | dunno |
| 19:55.21 | Dreamix | fish 2.1.1-1 amd64 friendly interactive shell |
| 19:55.40 | marioxcc | that's the latest. Are you using testing? |
| 19:55.58 | Dreamix | no, pure stable production system :) |
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| 19:56.20 | Dreamix | it's not my desktop :) |
| 19:56.29 | Dreamix | i am using OSX for Desktop OS |
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| 19:56.49 | marioxcc | Dreamix: oh, ok. OS X is terrible, it's proprietary software. |
| 19:56.55 | marioxcc | I use Debian in all of my systems. |
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| 19:57.47 | Dreamix | marioxcc: great, admire that |
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| 19:58.19 | Dreamix | now you can hate me, but i think debian is good for server, desktop OSX... |
| 19:58.34 | Dreamix | just my opinion |
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| 19:59.19 | marioxcc | Well, my criticism for OS X is because it's proprietary software, you're not allowed to know what you're running, let alone modify or copy it. |
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| 19:59.52 | Dreamix | not that right |
| 20:00.04 | Dreamix | cause, there is dtrace |
| 20:00.25 | Dreamix | you can always check what's going on under |
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| 20:00.37 | Dreamix | if you're familiar with it |
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| 20:02.20 | Dreamix | Btw: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DTrace |
| 20:02.24 | marioxcc | there are syscall traps for GNU/Linux as well. At any rate, I'm not interested in discussing the technical merits of OS X. The moral aspect is enough for me to not to use it, and it should be that way for everybody in my opinion, which I have taken after considering the issue. |
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| 20:04.03 | Dreamix | Okay, it's your righ :) |
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| 20:04.35 | marioxcc | If you're interested in my reasons, I encourage you to read https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/ |
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| 20:05.33 | Dreamix | i know their philosophy, a bit free software nazis to me :) |
| 20:06.33 | marioxcc | b |
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| 20:07.20 | marioxcc | how can I tell if the OOM killer was activated recently? |
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| 20:08.53 | Spec | marioxcc: it may be in /var/log/messages or /var/log/kern.log |
| 20:09.08 | marioxcc | Spec: what must I look for? will a "grep OOM" do? |
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| 20:09.33 | Spec | marioxcc: i can't recall off the top of my head, OOM, oom-killer OOM-Killer, etc |
| 20:10.08 | marioxcc | ok, thanks Spec. will it leave logs there? |
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| 20:11.31 | `Kevin | marioxcc: anywhere the kernel logs OOM detail will be written |
| 20:11.34 | `Kevin | dmesg as well |
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| 20:12.19 | r3n1c0n | Terminator -x fish .. works great in the menu of openbox |
| 20:12.29 | marioxcc | `Kevin: ok, I found nothing in dmesg, does that mean that nothing has been killed? |
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| 20:12.47 | marioxcc | mario@mario-laptop:~/pex/tmp$ dmesg | grep oom |
| 20:12.47 | marioxcc | mario@mario-laptop:~/pex/tmp$ dmesg | grep kill |
| 20:12.52 | marioxcc | (no output) |
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| 20:15.01 | `Kevin | marioxcc: depends how frequent kernel logs are written and when oom ran (if it ran) as dmesg is only a small buffer, if unsure check log files as Spec mentioned |
| 20:15.14 | `Kevin | marioxcc: example entries -> https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2012/03/msg01178.html |
| 20:16.21 | marioxcc | `Kevin: ok, thanks you very much. |
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| 20:18.18 | marioxcc | `Kevin: so, it must be in either dmesg or /var/log/kern, right' |
| 20:18.48 | marioxcc | I grepped all non gzip files in /var/log for "oom_kill" and "oom-kill" and found nothing, I suppoe that this means that it wasn't invoked. |
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| 20:30.57 | rgr | obviously recursive grep |
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| 20:32.09 | illy | so i just entered a friends server he was like "Help me fix it" so im ok sure |
| 20:32.10 | illy | ./configure: error: C compiler cc is not found |
| 20:32.13 | illy | gcc is installed :| |
| 20:32.19 | illy | so is build-essential :| |
| 20:32.42 | dltl | looks like you need to define cc as gcc |
| 20:33.47 | illy | how to define it? |
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| 20:34.12 | illy | always worked out of the box for me :| |
| 20:34.53 | somiaj | illy: for this piece of source code? |
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| 20:35.46 | somiaj | illy: you could look at config.log (I htink that is a standard log file) and see what it is not finding. But if it is calling cc it could just be what the source code was built on/for. |
| 20:36.32 | `Kevin | illy: check which cc as well, if nothing try -> sudo update-alternatives --config cc |
| 20:36.54 | illy | There is only one alternative in link group cc: /usr/bin/gcc |
| 20:36.55 | illy | Nothing to configure. |
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| 20:37.23 | somiaj | again look at the actual log file, see what command is run and what is failing. Otherwise we are just guessing |
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| 20:37.34 | illy | somiaj: |
| 20:37.37 | illy | i gave u the command |
| 20:37.39 | illy | "Configure" |
| 20:37.45 | illy | ./configure: error: C compiler cc is not found |
| 20:37.54 | somiaj | illy: that is not the command that is failing |
| 20:38.10 | illy | "./configure" |
| 20:38.12 | somiaj | illy: ./configure runs a whole lot of differnt commands and logs them, then they fail. Use the log file to look up which command is failing |
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| 20:38.34 | illy | it logs? |
| 20:38.35 | illy | where? |
| 20:38.42 | somiaj | config.log configure.log, something like that |
| 20:39.10 | illy | nowhere |
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| 20:39.46 | somiaj | ./configure is just a script and most good configure scripts log the results and tell you what it is doing so when it fails y ou can look it up and not just get generic messages like you have so far. |
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| 20:40.35 | illy | no logs |
| 20:41.20 | illy | nevermind got it to wer |
| 20:41.21 | illy | k |
| 20:41.26 | illy | ty |
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| 20:42.16 | lfkr | test |
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| 20:42.53 | eb0t | hey does anyone use bnc software bouncer |
| 20:43.05 | eb0t | if so what is the best bouncer for use on debian |
| 20:43.25 | eb0t | or is tor just as good if not better |
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| 20:45.16 | dontknow | isn't jessie freezed? why does it install new version of packages? |
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| 20:46.27 | somiaj | dontknow: because during the freeze bugs are fixed |
| 20:47.10 | dontknow | ok |
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| 20:49.02 | dontknow | i find that jessie is quite stable for me |
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| 20:49.22 | somiaj | dontknow: debian in stable doens't mean 'will not crash', that is only a small part of it |
| 20:49.46 | somiaj | the biggest issue with jessie right now (unless you have found one of the release critical bugs) is no security support |
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| 20:52.06 | someHuman | Hello! |
| 20:52.12 | hunterp | why is this apt-get update failing me?? http://pastebin.com/JfdjezzR |
| 20:52.41 | someHuman | I can't install a package. Even though I enter the right password for my current user, it tells me that it isn't in the sudoers loist. |
| 20:52.42 | someHuman | list* |
| 20:52.43 | someHuman | Fix? |
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| 20:53.03 | jhutchins | someHuman: Did you set up sudo? |
| 20:53.13 | jhutchins | someHuman: Which release are you on? |
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| 20:53.49 | someHuman | jhutchins: Hold on. |
| 20:53.50 | somiaj | hunterp: I see some strange sources in there including mixing lenny and jessie which might be bad. Maybe take a look at /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d and address the ones that are failing |
| 20:54.14 | someHuman | jhutchins: How do I know which release I'm on? |
| 20:54.36 | jhutchins | someHuman: lsb_release -a is good |
| 20:54.41 | someHuman | It's 6.7.0 |
| 20:54.41 | Ticho | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:54.45 | Ticho | *sigh* |
| 20:55.07 | jhutchins | !sudo |
| 20:55.07 | dpkg | [sudo] (Substitute User DO) Not enabled by default on Debian systems; configure /etc/sudoers first, ask me about <visudo>, <sudoers>. sudo can give limited super user privileges to specific users, or allow you to do silly things like run X apps with root permissions, or good in scripts with "username ALL = NOPASSWD: /some/program". See also <sudo path>. http://wiki.debian.org/sudo http://www.aplawrence.com/Basics/sudo.html |
| 20:55.09 | someHuman | jhutchins: It said 7.7 |
| 20:55.43 | someHuman | jhutchins: Thanks! |
| 20:55.59 | jhutchins | someHuman: I think sudoers is already set up in 6/7, but you need to add your user to the sudo group, log out and log back in. |
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| 20:56.41 | jhutchins | someHuman: In debian it's usually assumed that you'll su - root rather than use sudo, but either way is fine. |
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| 20:56.54 | jhutchins | someHuman: (Assuming a single-user system.) |
| 20:56.55 | someHuman | Are you sure? |
| 20:57.04 | someHuman | I'm not comfortable with su - |
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| 20:57.22 | jhutchins | someHuman: Yup. That's fine though, use sudo if you prefer. |
| 20:57.44 | somiaj | sudo is an optional package and is only configured to be used if you want to. I think the only time sudo is made default is if you choose not to set the root password or not let root login when you install |
| 20:57.48 | someHuman | I want to use sudo. |
| 20:57.55 | jhutchins | someHuman: I learned in a DOS environment where every user is root, that's what I'm used to. |
| 20:57.57 | somiaj | so install the package, add yourself to the sudo group. Done |
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| 20:58.04 | someHuman | jhutchins: I also just installed Debian, like 5 minutes ago, |
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| 20:58.37 | someHuman | somiaj: gedit can't add me in the sudo list. |
| 20:58.52 | someHuman | I can't open it with gedit. |
| 20:59.04 | someHuman | So my Debian is Free Software right now right? |
| 20:59.08 | someHuman | It does not contain any non-free? |
| 20:59.09 | eb0t | use vim |
| 20:59.16 | jhutchins | somiaj: He got the "not in sudoers" error, so it would appear to be installed. |
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| 20:59.25 | someHuman | By the way, I am a Free Software guy. I come from Trisquel :) |
| 20:59.27 | jhutchins | somiaj: You have to do it as root. |
| 20:59.30 | somiaj | someHuman: 'adduser someHuman sudo' then login/logout |
| 20:59.41 | someHuman | The reason actually why I switched to Debian is for wifi. |
| 20:59.45 | somiaj | someHuman: as jhutchins misstold me, you need to add yoruself to the sudo group as root |
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| 20:59.51 | someHuman | My wifi driver at the moment isn't supported. |
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| 21:00.00 | somiaj | once you do that it should work, unless you have a non default sudoers file |
| 21:00.17 | jhutchins | somiaj: Two users same first three letters... |
| 21:00.17 | someHuman | somiaj: Thanks! |
| 21:00.27 | someHuman | jhutchins: Two users? |
| 21:00.30 | someHuman | su - |
| 21:00.39 | jhutchins | someHuman and somiaj |
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| 21:00.58 | jhutchins | someHuman: irssi tab-completes whichever user I most recently used. |
| 21:00.59 | somiaj | jhutchins: and you probabaly only typed 2 characters before hiting tab. (: |
| 21:02.01 | someHuman | jhutchins: lol |
| 21:02.12 | someHuman | jhutchins: Ah, psh. |
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| 21:03.01 | someHuman | So my Debian is Free Software now right? |
| 21:03.17 | someHuman | At the moment, my wifi driver isn't Free Software compatible. |
| 21:03.28 | someHuman | How do I make my wifi driver work? |
| 21:03.33 | someHuman | I know I have to use the non-free stuff. |
| 21:03.42 | somiaj | someHuman: this is just a sticky point. Firmware put on a chip would be considered free, firmware deleivered as a seperate file is not. Go figure. |
| 21:03.44 | someHuman | And it's actually the reason why I switched to Debian. |
| 21:04.13 | someHuman | somiaj: Ah, thanks! |
| 21:04.14 | somiaj | I like the seperate file idea, cause I hate flashing chips with new firmware. But yes you will most likely need non-free firmware for your wifi card. |
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| 21:04.22 | someHuman | somiaj: Ok so how can I use wifi now? |
| 21:04.36 | somiaj | get a copy of the non-free firmware for your wifi card, reload the wifi module. |
| 21:04.49 | somiaj | debian will provide these in packages via non-free if you want to use them. |
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| 21:07.00 | someHuman | somiaj: How do I get the copy the non-free firmware of my wifi card? |
| 21:07.06 | someHuman | Isn't there a non-free repo? |
| 21:07.28 | biffbaxter | depends on chipset iwlwifi and broadcom-sta-common are two that might be options (first one intel second on broadcom) |
| 21:07.31 | somiaj | yes you can use the non-free repo, you can download the .deb from packages.debian.org or you can get the firmware from the chip manufacture in lots of cases too |
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| 21:08.11 | twobitsprite | does anyone know if the openldap slapd package in wheezy is vulnerable to the SSLv3 POODLE issue? |
| 21:08.27 | twobitsprite | I can't find anything about it on the debian-security-announce list |
| 21:08.55 | someHuman | somiaj: You mean chip manufacturer right? |
| 21:10.04 | someHuman | What's the command to get wireless chip info? I forgot. |
| 21:10.36 | jhutchins | someHuman: Usually lspci -nn |
| 21:10.38 | somiaj | someHuman: correct |
| 21:11.18 | somiaj | twobitsprite: I belive it was fixed, but you can use debian security tracker, do you have the CVE for POODLE? |
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| 21:12.15 | twobitsprite | somiaj: where is the security tracker? |
| 21:12.17 | somiaj | twobitsprite: https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/ -- maybe start there, but you can use the tracker to see which CVE's have known vulns in debian and you can actually look up the fixes by CVE |
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| 21:13.40 | someHuman | OK so I got my network controller. |
| 21:13.42 | someHuman | Now what? |
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| 21:14.54 | someHuman | somiaj: I get the info, now what? |
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| 21:15.31 | twobitsprite | somiaj: thanks :) |
| 21:16.09 | biffbaxter | We cant help if you don't tell us the info...what is the chipset |
| 21:16.45 | someHuman | biffbaxter: Network controller: Ralink corp. Device 3290 |
| 21:16.47 | somiaj | someHuman: what chipset do you have? |
| 21:17.09 | somiaj | someHuman: debinan provies a package called 'firmware-ralink' |
| 21:18.01 | biffbaxter | add the wheezy backports and then add the firmware-ralink package |
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| 21:18.44 | somiaj | shouldn't need backports if you aren't using a backported kernel |
| 21:18.47 | marioxcc | Hello. How can I change a mount point without demounting and remounting the FS? |
| 21:18.56 | biffbaxter | true... |
| 21:18.56 | marioxcc | mount -o remount DIR1 DIR2 doens't work. |
| 21:19.15 | someHuman | biffbaxter: Ok? |
| 21:19.21 | somiaj | marioxcc: why don't you want to unmount it? |
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| 21:19.54 | someHuman | Where are the Wheezy backports? |
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| 21:20.14 | biffbaxter | as stated you may not need them |
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| 21:20.29 | somiaj | someHuman: ignore that, just get the package from non-free, you can use packages.debian.org if you need to downlaod it and copy it over to you machine if its internetto up |
| 21:20.36 | biffbaxter | try this for giggles apt-cache policy firmware-ralink |
| 21:20.37 | marioxcc | somiaj: There may be open files in that filesystem. Also id'be more pratical to remount a cgroup hierarchy that way. |
| 21:20.37 | someHuman | The reason why I am using Debian now is for me to be able to connect to the interenet wirelessly. |
| 21:20.56 | somiaj | marioxcc: well the things th the open files aren't going to 'know' you changed it |
| 21:21.07 | somiaj | marioxcc: you could mount --bind dir1 dir2 -- then it is mounted in two places |
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| 21:21.16 | somiaj | marioxcc: and set it up so next reboot everything is only mounted in the second place |
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| 21:21.31 | marioxcc | somiaj: ok, though that wasn't what I was looking for, but thanks you very much. |
| 21:21.35 | someHuman | I really need to use the internet wirelessly mna. |
| 21:21.36 | someHuman | man* |
| 21:21.45 | someHuman | How do I add the backports? |
| 21:21.52 | biffbaxter | do you have wired connection to the internet now? |
| 21:22.10 | someHuman | Yup. |
| 21:22.18 | somiaj | marioxcc: yea I don't think what you want is possible bacuse you want something to tell all applications 'hey your file is now over here' |
| 21:22.29 | biffbaxter | apt-get install firmware-ralink |
| 21:22.39 | somiaj | someHuman: you will need to enable the non-free sources before you do that though |
| 21:22.46 | someHuman | somiaj: How? |
| 21:23.24 | somiaj | someHuman: modify your /etc/apt/sources.list file. at the end of each line you'll see a 'main' change that from 'main' to 'main contrib non-free' (this also enables contrib repo too) |
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| 21:24.45 | marioxcc | somiaj: well, the kernel can in principle keep the open file descriptors and allow that, though there may be other problems. |
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| 21:24.52 | biffbaxter | then do an apt-get update and then apt-get install firmware-ralink |
| 21:25.54 | somiaj | marioxcc: My limited experience (I'm a hobbist) is a reboot and mount it in the new place is probably the best bet, but --bind will at least allow you to configure/use things until a reboot |
| 21:26.03 | brontosaurusrex | looking at http://linux.die.net/man/1/xsri it appears that it would be possible to combine tiled bitmap with overlayed centred alpha image, is there a thingy for debian/openbox that would allow such thing? (cli preffered) |
| 21:26.57 | marioxcc | somiaj: right, thanks you very much for the help. |
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| 21:29.28 | biffbaxter | have you tried imageMagick? It has some CLI functions for composite images |
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| 21:31.40 | someHuman | somiaj: Dude! |
| 21:32.00 | someHuman | somiaj: I already installed the firmware-ralink. |
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| 21:32.05 | someHuman | somiaj: Do I reboot? |
| 21:32.13 | somiaj | or reload the module for your wifi card |
| 21:32.15 | somiaj | either worlds |
| 21:32.16 | somiaj | works |
| 21:32.24 | someHuman | What do you mean reload? |
| 21:32.27 | someHuman | Fuck this takes a lot of work! |
| 21:32.32 | someHuman | I have school fucking work! |
| 21:32.33 | someHuman | -_- |
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| 21:32.37 | someHuman | Sorry I'm just so pissed! |
| 21:32.40 | somiaj | you can modprobe -r module and then modprobe module (don't know the module name) |
| 21:32.44 | imaami | lol |
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| 21:32.46 | somiaj | or you can just reboot |
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| 21:33.16 | quantum-x | hey all. I'm working through running a VM under QEMU. ATM I'm launching from the CLI - I was wanting to launch from virsh (which seems much nicer..). Is there any way to auto-general a config XML from a running qemu instance.. or ? |
| 21:33.22 | atomi | can I do this if the file doesn't exist: echo 'test' > ~/test |
| 21:33.54 | somiaj | atomi: yes it will create the file |
| 21:34.06 | atomi | somiaj: yeah |
| 21:34.09 | somiaj | quantum-x: umm how are you creating your VM's are you using libvirt? |
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| 21:34.53 | quantum-x | somiaj, I have been firing them as such: qemu-system-arm -net nic -net user,id=mynet0 -kernel kernel-qemu -cpu arm1136-r2 -M versatilepb -no-reboot -append "root=/dev/sda2 panic=1" -hda raspbian.img |
| 21:35.04 | someHuman | somiaj: I still don't see a fucking wireless option! |
| 21:35.07 | someHuman | -_- |
| 21:35.09 | someHuman | Sorry. |
| 21:35.13 | someHuman | Just so pissed |
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| 21:35.28 | someHuman | The wireless option should show now. |
| 21:35.34 | someHuman | I only see wired. |
| 21:35.36 | somiaj | someHuman: paste the output of 'dmesg' at paste.debian.net |
| 21:35.56 | somiaj | someHuman: also I missed, what was the exact chipset of your ralink wifi card? |
| 21:36.37 | someHuman | 3290 |
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| 21:37.37 | somiaj | someHuman: seems your card needs a newer kernel. So you will need to get the 3.16 kernel from wheezy-backports and the firmware from there too. |
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| 21:37.47 | somiaj | someHuman: I should have double checked that first. Anyways |
| 21:37.52 | somiaj | !tell someHuman about wheezy-backports |
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| 21:38.26 | someHuman | somiaj: Ok so how do I do it? |
| 21:38.41 | somiaj | the bot sent you a message on how to add wheezy-backports to your sources.list |
| 21:38.45 | somiaj | do that |
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| 21:40.15 | someHuman | somiaj: Can you just tell me how to do it? |
| 21:40.20 | someHuman | I'm running out of time. |
| 21:40.21 | someHuman | :( |
| 21:40.26 | somiaj | I did, read what the bot said |
| 21:40.27 | someHuman | I don't have time to read docs. |
| 21:40.31 | someHuman | Ugh! |
| 21:40.38 | someHuman | I'm not that competent. |
| 21:40.45 | someHuman | I'm not that technical. |
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| 21:41.17 | dgm816 | just give me your root password and address |
| 21:41.19 | somiaj | you must not be trying since the bot tells you exactly what line to add to your sources.list and was saving me having to type it all out |
| 21:41.34 | dgm816 | lol |
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| 21:43.57 | livetvstream | can anyone tell me how can i watch a live tv stream on wheezy? NOT with vlc but with smplayer on any other application |
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| 21:44.13 | livetvstream | can anyone tell me how can i watch a live tv stream on wheezy? NOT with vlc but with smplayer or any other application |
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| 21:45.59 | grzeslaw | Hi guys, I am loking for "sealert" binary in wheezy, but I am unable to find it.. is compilation the olny way to get it ? |
| 21:46.16 | dondelelcaro | livetvstream: 1) please don't repeat; 2) Sometimes using rtmpdump, but not necessarily always |
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| 21:46.57 | somiaj | ,v setroubleshoot |
| 21:46.59 | judd | No package named 'setroubleshoot' was found in i386. |
| 21:47.08 | livetvstream | dondelelcaro, i am desktop newbie can you please tell me step by step how? |
| 21:47.48 | somiaj | grzeslaw: yea looks like it, or find a similar piece of software provided by debian |
| 21:48.02 | somiaj | grzeslaw: only place I even see such a thing is in debian unstable for the m68k port |
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| 21:48.39 | grzeslaw | somiaj: yeah, me neither, but I am worring to install unstalbe package on production system ;/ |
| 21:48.56 | somiaj | are you running m68k arch? If not it wouldn't even work |
| 21:49.09 | dontknow | livetvstream, you can't watch with smplayer? |
| 21:49.11 | somiaj | I was just seeing if you could get a source package from debian, but looks like you'll have to get the source from somewhere else. |
| 21:49.17 | grzeslaw | no I am running x86_64 wheezy |
| 21:49.42 | livetvstream | dontknow, please tell me how on wheezy |
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| 21:50.25 | grzeslaw | this package does not exist on wheezy ; |
| 21:50.26 | grzeslaw | ;/ |
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| 21:51.10 | somiaj | grzeslaw: yes you'll have to compilie it from source and it appears that deibain doesn't even haev a good source package for amd64 outside of stable for you to use. |
| 21:51.39 | grzeslaw | somiaj: thanks for confirmation |
| 21:52.00 | dontknow | livetvstream, isn't there an option in smplayer's "open" menu to paste the live stream address? |
| 21:52.19 | nettleja1 | Anyone used 'sosreport' before? A support rep just asked me to run it on a system and send the output to him. I ran it, looked inside the archive it produced and found that it contained (among other things) the entire /etc/ directory including private keys. Eek. |
| 21:53.00 | dltl | don't sent it |
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| 21:53.31 | nettleja1 | I'm going to delete the private keys and recompress it, but.. I'm glad I checked first. |
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| 21:54.22 | nettleja1 | I'm just wondering what else is in there... |
| 21:54.26 | dltl | why are you running some support reps software anyway? |
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| 21:54.40 | nettleja1 | Ansible Tower |
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| 21:57.16 | someHuman | somiaj: Dude! |
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| 21:57.23 | someHuman | I still can't make it work. |
| 21:57.26 | someHuman | Can you help me? |
| 21:57.39 | someHuman | Can you resend the bot instead? |
| 21:57.42 | dgm816 | whats not working someHuman? |
| 21:57.54 | someHuman | dgm816: I need help to set up wireless networking. |
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| 21:58.13 | someHuman | My wifi driver isn't Free Software compatible at the moment. |
| 21:58.24 | livetvstream | dontknow, i hope you are trying to give advice based on your knowledge of smplayer and not suppositions |
| 21:58.25 | someHuman | I need it set up in like 5 minutes. |
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| 21:58.59 | dontknow | livetvstream, yes i don't use smplayer |
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| 21:59.26 | dontknow | i suppose there should be a menu for that |
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| 22:00.39 | livetvstream | dontknow, please do not give advice based on suppositions about an application you do not even use. thanks |
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| 22:00.52 | mtn | livetvstream: why don't you want to use vlc? it will do what you want. |
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| 22:02.08 | livetvstream | mtn, do not beat around the bush, please. my question is not about vlc. its is about smplayer or any other free application that can let me watch a live tv stream. thanks |
| 22:02.11 | someHuman | Can someone help me set up wireless networking? |
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| 22:02.25 | dontknow | livetvstream, actually i was using it, and i remember watching live stream with it |
| 22:02.31 | someHuman | My wifi driver isn't Free Software compatible at the moment so I have to use the non-free one. |
| 22:02.37 | someHuman | non-free driver* |
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| 22:03.23 | livetvstream | dontknow, but you do not remember how, do you? |
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| 22:03.38 | mtn | livetvstream: why are you so passive agressive? you came here to ask us, we didn't ask you. |
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| 22:04.07 | dontknow | livetvstream, it must be in open menu |
| 22:04.17 | critias | in /var/log/debug I get many many messages like [ 0.19288] pci 0000:00:1d.2 [8086:342c] etc... mega-gigabytes of them.. What is wrong here? |
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| 22:05.24 | dancus | livestream you can use mplayer or vlc |
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| 22:05.50 | rgr | Drop the "us".. that is passive agrressive and an attempt to threaten. Answer if you know the answer - guessing he can do as well. |
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| 22:06.34 | livetvstream | mtn, the thing is that if someone who wants to travel by train and not by coach asks you about train timetables/prices/routes and you insist on asking "why don't you want to travel by car" is kind of annoying, is it not? |
| 22:06.58 | dgm816 | i like airplanes |
| 22:07.18 | someHuman | dgm816: Can you help me? |
| 22:07.27 | someHuman | dgm816: Set up my wireless? |
| 22:07.30 | dgm816 | someHuman, maybe.. whats your question? |
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| 22:07.43 | someHuman | dgm816: I have to use non-free stuff AFAIK to use wifi. |
| 22:07.50 | someHuman | It's the reason why I'm using Debian. |
| 22:08.01 | someHuman | I'm a Free Software guy, Trisquel user to be precise. |
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| 22:08.30 | dgm816 | someHuman, so you are setting up wifi? and you need some blob to get it working? |
| 22:08.37 | someHuman | dgm816: AFAIK yes. |
| 22:08.45 | dgm816 | someHuman, what wifi card? |
| 22:08.51 | someHuman | dgm816: My driver isn't Free Software compatible at the moment. |
| 22:08.59 | dontknow | someHuman, buy a wifi card with compatible free software :D |
| 22:09.18 | someHuman | dontknow: Can't afford, student here. |
| 22:09.23 | someHuman | college student* |
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| 22:09.28 | someHuman | I only have limited money. |
| 22:09.34 | someHuman | dgm816: Network controller: Ralink corp. Device 3290 |
| 22:09.47 | nkuttler | someHuman: well, if you use trisquel, #trisquel |
| 22:10.02 | someHuman | nkuttler: I replaced it with Debian, for wifi sake, |
| 22:10.10 | nkuttler | i see |
| 22:10.13 | someHuman | nkuttler: Yeah. |
| 22:10.14 | dgm816 | someHuman, so you using the rt3290 component? |
| 22:10.19 | someHuman | dgm816: Yup. |
| 22:10.34 | dgm816 | someHuman, is it listed when you do 'ifconfig'? |
| 22:11.35 | someHuman | I don't have ifconfig |
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| 22:11.56 | dontknow | someHuman, make swap your wifis with your friends who uses propreitary software on their pc |
| 22:12.06 | nkuttler | someHuman: /sbin/ifconfig ? |
| 22:12.11 | dontknow | with atheros wifi |
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| 22:12.50 | someHuman | nkuttler: I see not human readable shit. |
| 22:12.59 | someHuman | Ugh! I need to get this working! |
| 22:13.04 | someHuman | Fuck this takes a lot of shit! |
| 22:13.07 | someHuman | Fuck! |
| 22:13.09 | dgm816 | someHuman, 'sudo ifconfig' and see if you have a wlan0 or some type of wifi device listed.. all devices will be listed on the left side.. |
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| 22:13.32 | dgm816 | someHuman,can you screen shot and post it? |
| 22:13.36 | c|AFK|uego | You need to calm down, or soon nobody will be interested in helping you at all. |
| 22:13.47 | someHuman | c|AFK|uego: Sorry. |
| 22:14.10 | someHuman | dgm816: http://codepad.org/O6GGqz5b |
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| 22:14.34 | dgm816 | so there is only a eth0 inteface listed there.. wired ethernet card.. |
| 22:14.37 | dgm816 | no wifi listed |
| 22:14.42 | someHuman | Yup! |
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| 22:14.49 | someHuman | Probably because I need yet to set it up. |
| 22:15.00 | someHuman | I already installed firmware-ralink. |
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| 22:15.13 | dgm816 | someHuman, https://wiki.debian.org/rt3290 <-- look here? |
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| 22:16.22 | dontknow | someHuman, there is another option. steal a wifi compatible with free software :p |
| 22:17.11 | someHuman | Which one is it here?https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=firmware-ralink |
| 22:17.33 | someHuman | Which one do you think is the best? Remember, I'm a Free Software guy so you know what I'm looking fir. |
| 22:17.34 | someHuman | for* |
| 22:17.48 | dgm816 | what version debian did you install? wheezy? |
| 22:17.48 | someHuman | But I'm a noob so I ask these questions :) |
| 22:17.52 | someHuman | I think so? |
| 22:17.57 | dgm816 | those are for differnent debian versions |
| 22:18.00 | someHuman | I'm running 7.7 as per some CLI command. |
| 22:18.15 | someHuman | Ah, so Jessie isn't stable yet. |
| 22:18.25 | someHuman | Wheezy is still the latest stable huh. |
| 22:18.27 | dgm816 | jessie is testing |
| 22:18.30 | dgm816 | yes |
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| 22:18.39 | someHuman | Which one should I get, backports or stable? |
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| 22:18.52 | dgm816 | depends on what you have installed |
| 22:18.55 | dgm816 | its listed out |
| 22:18.59 | dgm816 | in 5 steps |
| 22:19.02 | dgm816 | under 'wheezy' |
| 22:19.06 | dgm816 | which is what im sure you have intsalled |
| 22:19.10 | dgm816 | https://wiki.debian.org/rt3290 <-- right here |
| 22:19.14 | dgm816 | read/do that first |
| 22:19.21 | dgm816 | then we can see where you go from there |
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| 22:24.11 | dontknow | what debian version mostly being used here? stable/jessie/sid? |
| 22:24.58 | dontknow | what does people usually prefer? |
| 22:25.42 | dgm816 | personal preference i guess.. i typically would run testing on my desktop machine |
| 22:25.46 | dgm816 | stable on servers |
| 22:26.58 | eb0t | i run stable on my desktop and update certain packages via backports wheezy |
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| 22:27.36 | jhutchins | dgm816: Please stop using the enter key so often. |
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| 22:28.03 | eb0t | are you serious jhutchins |
| 22:28.13 | dgm816 | jhutchins, no problem.. it was for emphasis.. but i digress.. |
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| 22:28.35 | Shaun413 | hi... |
| 22:28.36 | someHuman | Hello! |
| 22:28.40 | jhutchins | dontknow: testing lacks priority security support and is not recommended for people not familiar with how to fix and work with Debian. |
| 22:28.44 | Shaun413 | im thinking about installing debian |
| 22:28.51 | Shaun413 | good idea? |
| 22:28.57 | dgm816 | excellent idea |
| 22:28.59 | someHuman | So what I did was just downloaded and installed the package here: https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/all/firmware-ralink/download |
| 22:29.08 | Shaun413 | hmm |
| 22:29.11 | Shaun413 | over mint ? |
| 22:29.18 | someHuman | The package I got was from ftp.de.debian.org/debian |
| 22:29.32 | dontknow | jhutchins, debian guide says it doesn't get security updates timely manner |
| 22:29.37 | dgm816 | someHuman, is it listed now? |
| 22:29.45 | Shaun413 | is debian considered th best? |
| 22:29.51 | jhutchins | Shaun413: While mint might move a little faster, it adopts packages that aren't quite as well tested and patched, so tends to break more often. |
| 22:29.58 | someHuman | dgm816: Where should I check? |
| 22:30.01 | someHuman | I did not follow your link. |
| 22:30.03 | jhutchins | Shaun413: Debian stable rarely if ever breaks. |
| 22:30.09 | brentaarnold | Can MATE be installed on Debian Jessie? I noticed that when I added the testing repositories in Wheezy before my upgrade it couldn't find testing-backports. |
| 22:30.10 | Shaun413 | ok |
| 22:30.12 | dgm816 | someHuman, 'sudo ifconfig' |
| 22:30.15 | Shaun413 | cool |
| 22:30.22 | Shaun413 | whats a good partition size |
| 22:30.24 | Shaun413 | for deb |
| 22:30.26 | jhutchins | !mate |
| 22:30.27 | dpkg | The MATE Desktop Environment is a fork of GNOME 2, available since Debian 8.0 "Jessie" (and also in wheezy-backports). To install, ask me about <install mate>. https://wiki.debian.org/Mate http://mate-desktop.org/ #mate on chat.freenode.net. |
| 22:30.32 | someHuman | dgm816: Still isn't listed. |
| 22:30.37 | someHuman | Already rebooted. |
| 22:30.44 | dgm816 | someHuman, did you reboot the machine after installing it? |
| 22:30.47 | brentaarnold | jhutchins: TYVM |
| 22:30.53 | someHuman | dgm816: This is your link right? https://wiki.debian.org/rt3290 |
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| 22:31.03 | dgm816 | someHuman, thats the link i posted.. yes.. |
| 22:31.25 | someHuman | Do I add them to this file: /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 22:31.31 | Shaun413 | 10gb? |
| 22:31.42 | dgm816 | someHuman, thats what it says.. yes.. |
| 22:31.50 | critias | I get a lot of kernel logging in kern.log telling me about PnP and pci. is that necessary? |
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| 22:33.18 | biffbaxter | someHuman arent you on Jessie? |
| 22:33.32 | critias | seems like it logs everything is does.. |
| 22:33.45 | Shaun413 | is debian secure? |
| 22:33.58 | c|AFK|uego | critias: that's usually the point of logging. Any reason it shouldn't do that? |
| 22:34.26 | ctmjr | someHuman, you need the firmware from backports but it is nonfree firmware so your choice |
| 22:34.37 | critias | well, only if it is necessary... noteworthy... |
| 22:34.42 | jhutchins | Shaun413: It's as secure as you make it. It doesn't think for you. |
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| 22:34.56 | c|AFK|uego | critias: There's no way of knowing what is noteworthy to whom |
| 22:35.07 | c|AFK|uego | critias: If it bothers you, don't look at the log ;-) |
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| 22:35.17 | dgm816 | just check the evil bit, only log if its set |
| 22:35.26 | Shaun413 | darn it doesnt? |
| 22:35.31 | Shaun413 | when will that happen |
| 22:35.33 | biffbaxter | Shaun413: Might want to try a Debian distro on liveUSB/CD there are plenty to test drive |
| 22:35.35 | dontknow | Shaun413, it depends on your usage. you can give 15G for root and rest for the /home |
| 22:35.37 | Shaun413 | when computers think for you |
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| 22:35.52 | Shaun413 | well, i want a dual boot |
| 22:35.56 | Shaun413 | with windows |
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| 22:36.19 | someHuman | dgm816: I've done the link. |
| 22:36.31 | critias | I get 100s of lines in the kern.log per second... that is a bit overdone , I's say? |
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| 22:36.52 | c|AFK|uego | critias: that implies there's a problem with the system, not the log. |
| 22:36.52 | nkuttler | critias: well, what do those lines say? |
| 22:36.54 | someHuman | dgm816: Still isnt' listed; |
| 22:37.09 | ctmjr | someHuman, you need the firmware from backports but it is nonfree firmware so your choice |
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| 22:37.34 | dgm816 | someHuman, "lspci | grep Network" .. does that find it? |
| 22:37.34 | critias | nkuttler: they say just about everything... but seldom or never "error" or "warning". |
| 22:37.35 | someHuman | ctmjr: I don't have any choice right now. I can't afford a Free Software compatible adapter. |
| 22:37.50 | someHuman | Yeah I can afford the adapter, but I also have to pay for the shipping. |
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| 22:38.03 | someHuman | dgm816: Yeah. |
| 22:38.14 | someHuman | dgm816: But it just gives me my card detail. |
| 22:38.21 | ctmjr | !tell someHuman about bpo |
| 22:38.32 | someHuman | What the fuck I've been dealing with this shit for almost 2 hours -_- |
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| 22:40.31 | sithfm | this is interesting |
| 22:40.41 | someHuman | sithfm: Which? |
| 22:40.47 | sithfm | apparently, dbconfig-common fails to properly configure mysql-5.5 with a root password |
| 22:40.58 | sithfm | i've tried twice now with dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-5.5 |
| 22:41.06 | sithfm | set a new password, and then can't use it! |
| 22:41.11 | sithfm | let me try a simple password |
| 22:41.42 | dontknow | someHuman, you can check there too :p https://trisquel.info/en/forum/im-thinking-installing-replacing-my-trisquel-systems-debian-sake-ofo-wifi-because-i-really-nee |
| 22:41.45 | Shaun413 | is this the biggest channel on freenode? |
| 22:41.48 | sithfm | oh |
| 22:41.57 | sithfm | yeah, it must've not liked my last password |
| 22:42.01 | someHuman | dontknow: That was actually me :) |
| 22:42.10 | someHuman | Ugh! |
| 22:42.13 | someHuman | What the heck! |
| 22:42.19 | someHuman | I need this wifi! |
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| 22:42.30 | Shaun413 | Wifiddlydi |
| 22:42.30 | someHuman | I have deadline in like 5 hours. |
| 22:42.41 | RayzrShrp | iptables is a beast |
| 22:42.46 | dontknow | someHuman, i know lol |
| 22:42.59 | RayzrShrp | would you say it's a good enough firewall to use or should I look for another |
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| 22:43.31 | someHuman | dgm816: Dude. |
| 22:43.33 | RayzrShrp | im tired of all these brute force attacks and script kiddies bashing at my host and want to makre sure I'm protected |
| 22:43.34 | someHuman | dgm816: You still there? |
| 22:43.37 | ctmjr | someHuman, I told you what you need to install and dpkg sent you all the info you need to get backports |
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| 22:43.54 | c|AFK|uego | RayzrShrp: Don't run public services and you won't need a firewall. |
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| 22:44.12 | c|AFK|uego | RayzrShrp: If you need to run public services, have a look at fail2ban. |
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| 22:44.18 | KaaK | RayzrShrp, it IS the firewall. But I agree, it is a beast. It you want something a bit more straightforward to use, look into UFW |
| 22:44.59 | dsockwell | it's pretty useful to understand how the Linux firewall (at least the INPUT table or its modern equivalent) work |
| 22:45.06 | RayzrShrp | c|AFK|uego: I'm currently using fail2ban |
| 22:45.13 | dsockwell | and once you know that, the syntax makes sense |
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| 22:45.41 | RayzrShrp | also running portsentry and sshguard and disabled root ssh login and password logins, using 4096 bit keys |
| 22:46.08 | RayzrShrp | mysql and apache are disabled |
| 22:46.17 | RayzrShrp | so i should be pretty safe then? |
| 22:46.28 | dsockwell | RayzrShrp: the next step for you is probably to implement a deny-by-default firewall and specify exactly what services get inbound connections, and optionally from where |
| 22:46.49 | RayzrShrp | dsockwell: yeah i mean really i only ever access my vps from home and work |
| 22:46.56 | dsockwell | but if it's a remote box, arrange for console access beforehand |
| 22:47.05 | dsockwell | you are pretty much guaranteed to lock yourself out of the machine on your first try |
| 22:47.08 | RayzrShrp | so only 2 networks should even have access but i am running postfix which worries me |
| 22:47.29 | RayzrShrp | digitial ocean has remote console |
| 22:47.34 | dsockwell | good enough |
| 22:47.48 | dsockwell | you really are going to lock yourself out of ssh, don't be shocked when you do |
| 22:47.54 | RayzrShrp | lol im sure i will |
| 22:48.14 | RayzrShrp | i feel like postfix is hard to secure |
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| 22:48.23 | RayzrShrp | ive read some guides but they are all over the place |
| 22:48.24 | teraflops | RayzrShrp: so much concerns for a postfix and a couple of openssh servers I think |
| 22:48.29 | RayzrShrp | too many ways to skin the cat in linux |
| 22:48.41 | dsockwell | What does the Jessie freeze mean for new installations? Is it time to start installing Jessie on new boxes? |
| 22:48.49 | c|AFK|uego | RayzrShrp: Postfix is fine, as long as you're not running an open relay. |
| 22:49.05 | RayzrShrp | c|AFK|uego: i dont think i am |
| 22:49.13 | RayzrShrp | any way to test it? |
| 22:49.20 | teraflops | RayzrShrp: thats easy to check |
| 22:49.32 | dsockwell | http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=Blag |
| 22:49.50 | dsockwell | augh, new computer; new paste shenanigans |
| 22:49.52 | teraflops | RayzrShrp: http://mxtoolbox.com/ for example |
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| 22:49.57 | dsockwell | http://mxtoolbox.com/diagnostic.aspx |
| 22:50.16 | ctmjr | !tell dsockwell about freeze |
| 22:50.33 | c|AFK|uego | RayzrShrp: are 2000 spams per minute going through? |
| 22:50.43 | RayzrShrp | dont think so |
| 22:50.45 | c|AFK|uego | If not, it's not an open relay ;-) |
| 22:51.10 | RayzrShrp | looks like im good |
| 22:51.12 | teraflops | RayzrShrp: may be you took a look at the logs and you get afraid, believe me thats normal |
| 22:51.34 | RayzrShrp | teraflops: honestly i feel like the logs send you down tons of dead ends |
| 22:51.42 | RayzrShrp | some logs are just always giving errors which you can never get rid of |
| 22:51.50 | dsockwell | thanks ctmjr |
| 22:51.50 | RayzrShrp | so much noise |
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| 22:52.00 | teraflops | RayzrShrp: I mean access and auth logs or asterisk apache etc etc |
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| 22:52.24 | teraflops | harmless the 99.9% of the time |
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| 22:52.39 | RayzrShrp | yeah |
| 22:52.54 | RayzrShrp | i had an old slackware box that got hacked through awstats so im paranoid now |
| 22:52.59 | teraflops | heh |
| 22:53.04 | RayzrShrp | course i was pretty noob back then and slack is for experts |
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| 22:53.15 | RayzrShrp | debian is more forgiving i feel |
| 22:53.19 | teraflops | RayzrShrp: just keep the systems up to date |
| 22:53.32 | dsockwell | just keep services to a minimum |
| 22:53.33 | RayzrShrp | yeah slack didnt have a real easy sudo apt-get update/upgrade on it |
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| 22:53.37 | teraflops | ho and do not run shitty software |
| 22:53.44 | teraflops | ah* |
| 22:53.45 | RayzrShrp | is awstats shitty? |
| 22:53.45 | dsockwell | that web combobulator you installed for debugging? turn it off when you're done |
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| 22:53.50 | teraflops | RayzrShrp: nop |
| 22:54.22 | teraflops | i werent speaking about awstat specifically |
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| 22:55.14 | RayzrShrp | anyone have experience with sshguard? |
| 22:55.30 | RayzrShrp | i installed the package but im not sure if there is more config needed |
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| 22:55.43 | RayzrShrp | it said it was starting the firewall whatever firewall that was, maybe iptables i guess |
| 22:55.44 | dgm816 | i've used fail2ban |
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| 22:55.48 | RayzrShrp | i use fail2ban |
| 22:55.52 | RayzrShrp | but only for ssh |
| 22:56.01 | RayzrShrp | and there are a ton of people bruting me |
| 22:56.06 | teraflops | heh |
| 22:56.27 | RayzrShrp | digital ocean is a vps so they are prob all over that network looking for misconfigured |
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| 22:57.38 | dgm816 | RayzrShrp, what services are being targeted? |
| 22:57.51 | RayzrShrp | looks like they are just trying to brute force in with ssh |
| 22:57.52 | jhutchins | RayzrShrp: Any reason you have to be on port 22? |
| 22:57.59 | RayzrShrp | not really |
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| 22:58.20 | RayzrShrp | they port scan me often too |
| 22:58.24 | jhutchins | RayzrShrp: Shift the port - instant near elimination. |
| 22:58.25 | RayzrShrp | portsentry blocks a lot of people |
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| 22:59.00 | jhutchins | RayzrShrp: brute force they just hammer 22. If they have to port scan first, find the port, then brute force it that's way more work than they'll do for a random server. |
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| 22:59.15 | RayzrShrp | agrreed |
| 22:59.28 | RayzrShrp | plus if they port scan me they get blocked |
| 22:59.50 | dgm816 | or just disable password authentication.. that stopped my brute forces 5 or 6 years ago |
| 22:59.54 | jhutchins | I port scan hosts all the time for a number of good reasons. |
| 23:00.02 | dsockwell | there is the long-running global bruteforce attack against ssh on 22 and other ports |
| 23:00.09 | RayzrShrp | dgm816: i did that but now i have all these preauth thanks for playing errors |
| 23:00.19 | jhutchins | dsockwell: Many. |
| 23:00.20 | dsockwell | in addition to skids |
| 23:00.20 | teraflops | RayzrShrp: even stealth scan |
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| 23:00.29 | RayzrShrp | yes |
| 23:00.34 | teraflops | nice |
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| 23:19.40 | marioxcc | hello |
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| 23:20.23 | marioxcc | at boot, power off, reboot and runlevel change are the scripts in /etc/init.d actually executed or just those in /etc/rcN.d? |
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| 23:21.39 | Shaun413 | do I need a flashdrive to isntall debian? |
| 23:21.41 | Shaun413 | dualoot? |
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| 23:23.15 | polson8 | I think a flash drive is an option. I've always used a CD or DVD. |
| 23:23.44 | Shaun413 | ahh |
| 23:23.53 | Shaun413 | well Im all cozy and dont want to get up:P |
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| 23:24.04 | LinuxGuy2020 | If I take a folder of packages and install them all with "dpkg -i *.deb. For example lets say its VLC package and all dependencies. Later on if I decide to remove that main VLC package, how can I get autoremove to work with removing the unneeded packages? Is there a trick or better method for this kind of offline install? Im not a huge fan of aptoncd to be honest. I like using a flashdrive. |
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| 23:31.45 | somiaj | marioxcc: just those in /etc/rcN.d and only those that start with S (for start) ones with K are ignored. |
| 23:31.56 | somiaj | marioxcc: this is assuming you are using sysvinit and not systemd |
| 23:32.05 | marioxcc | somiaj: yes, it's for sysvinit |
| 23:32.24 | marioxcc | somiaj: so what are the ones with K for? I thought they killed a process |
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| 23:33.26 | somiaj | marioxcc: you can use update-rc.d to disable a service, it puts the links there with a K so it knows they are disabled and won't put the links back the next time that package is upgraded |
| 23:33.40 | marioxcc | somiaj: ok, thanks |
| 23:33.44 | somiaj | marioxcc: i.e. if you were just to remove the link automatic tools may put it back there unless you specifcally tell it not to, (: |
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| 23:34.15 | marioxcc | somiaj: what can I consult to know more about the initialization process? I have read the debian reference, but it's not very exhaustive. |
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| 23:35.23 | somiaj | marioxcc: I don't have a good doc off the top of my head, but basically it is all done though scripts /etc/init.d/foo that accept start, stop, restart, status arguments |
| 23:35.46 | somiaj | marioxcc: then the run levels runs the scripts in some preset order tellthing them to 'start' if it is booting or 'stop' if it is shuting down. |
| 23:35.49 | trem0r | http://www.linuxnix.com/2013/04/linux-booting-process-explained.html |
| 23:36.14 | marioxcc | ok, thanks somiaj and trem0r |
| 23:36.25 | trem0r | np |
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| 23:44.19 | marioxcc | somiaj, trem0r: how does init choses what to parallelize? |
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| 23:45.14 | somiaj | marioxcc: look at the scripts in /etc/init.d/ -- they have LSB headers with things like Depends, Requires, it uses those to determine the order to boot things when it creates the links |
| 23:45.38 | somiaj | marioxcc: that is why you have S<number><name> the S<number> is to orginaize things, and I belive all thigns S1 are run in parallel, then S2 and so on |
| 23:45.54 | marioxcc | somiaj: ok, I thought that init ignored those lines |
| 23:46.04 | somiaj | they are just comments |
| 23:46.13 | somiaj | they are used by tools like update-rc.d to create and order the links |
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| 23:46.41 | somiaj | marioxcc: https://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts |
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| 23:47.54 | marioxcc | ok, thanks somiaj |
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| 23:50.54 | marioxcc | I want to set up a boot script to automatically load another kenrel with kexec |
| 23:51.02 | marioxcc | what should I make it depend on? |
| 23:51.17 | dltl | you being root? |
| 23:51.23 | marioxcc | dltl: ??? |
| 23:51.39 | marioxcc | also, when the init in the root filesystem is called, all fstab filesystems are mounted already, I assume, is this correct? |
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| 23:55.00 | shaun413 | no way to isntall a dual boot without a flashdrive? |
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| 23:55.49 | somiaj | shaun413: I don't think the flashdrive is the issue, but you need a method to install debian, and a flashdrive or cdrom is usually the easiest. Trying to install from say windows can be done (I belive there are docs) but isn't easy |
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| 23:58.40 | shaun413 | ah |