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| 00:07.13 | tytan | on http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.7.0/i386/iso-dvd/ it says there are three dvds. would an installation require all three dvds? |
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| 00:07.48 | somiaj | tytan: most likely you can get away with a single dvd |
| 00:08.02 | somiaj | tytan: further if you have a decent network connenction you could do it with a small 250meg netinstall cd. |
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| 00:08.29 | somiaj | tytan: i.e. dvd1 should be enough for most people, but since you can install anything from internet repos I wouldn't use the dvds unless you have no network connenction on the computer |
| 00:09.02 | tytan | Normally I go for the netinstall. But this time it's not available. So what's on the other two DVDs ? |
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| 00:09.20 | kale | tytan: you mean sold out? |
| 00:09.24 | tytan | The network isn't available. sorry |
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| 00:09.48 | mofino | tytan, netinstall is there |
| 00:10.06 | mofino | somewhere... |
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| 00:10.21 | tytan | I don't have a connection to the internet where the client is :P |
| 00:10.29 | kale | tytan: the first dvd will suffice. if you have the diskspace you can download all the dvd's and save them locally on disk and use that as your package source |
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| 00:11.03 | somiaj | tytan: the packages are put on dvd's based on popularity. dvd 2 will contain less use packages, and dvd 3 I think is the source code |
| 00:11.25 | tytan | Is it possible to forge all the dvds on a single thumb drive using dd? |
| 00:11.39 | tytan | Thanks for explaining. |
| 00:11.54 | mofino | tytan, can probably extract the first ISO and include the second somehow |
| 00:11.59 | somiaj | tytan: yes |
| 00:12.15 | kale | tytan: well you can get very large thumbdrives, so yes i guess |
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| 00:12.16 | tytan | So id have a massive install media |
| 00:12.17 | somiaj | tytan: but only dvd1 is bootable and has the installer, so you would cp (I preer that over dd) the dvd1 image to a thumb drive |
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| 00:12.41 | somiaj | tytan: you can then make a second partition on the extra space that wasn't used, then you can copy the .iso of dvd2 and dvd3 to that second partitoin and mount them as loopback devices if you need the data from them. |
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| 00:12.57 | kale | tytan: i do not know if its possible, but may bee you could put netinst on a cd and then use the thumbdrive as you package source for the installation. |
| 00:13.04 | tytan | somiaj Sounds great :) |
| 00:13.30 | somiaj | but you need to cp the dvd1 image iso on the thumb driver first and destory any partition info. After that is done you can then make anew partition/file system out of the extra space not used |
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| 00:14.07 | tytan | kale sounds interesting, too... |
| 00:14.15 | mofino | somiaj, can't reference the second ISO somehow from the USB stick during install? |
| 00:14.55 | somiaj | mofino: the install shouldn't need it, but after the install you can mount it as a loopback device so you can use a deb-cdrom entry to scan its contents |
| 00:15.00 | kale | tytan: i'd go for somiajs suggestion, but most important is to get an installation media, and a media with the packages |
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| 00:15.06 | mofino | somiaj, oh right, good point |
| 00:15.08 | somiaj | you will have ot manually mount it as a loopback device every time you want to install something from it though. |
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| 00:15.48 | kale | somiaj: you can just copy the whole dvds into a local directory |
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| 00:16.25 | tytan | cp is just a copy command in bash if I remember it correctly. What's better with cp than with dd? |
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| 00:16.50 | mofino | dd is for images, basically |
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| 00:16.54 | mofino | cp is regular copy |
| 00:16.55 | kale | tytan: cp is fine, in this case dd will just complicate it |
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| 00:17.13 | somiaj | kale: in order to have apt able to understand the packages and their control files you would need a method to scan it, but yes. I just suggest a loopback mount for that, but mounting it as a loopback device or copying the whole file system somewhere onto the system is basically the same thing |
| 00:17.36 | tytan | how can a thumb drive be bootable after proceeding cp? |
| 00:17.41 | somiaj | I just like cp debian.iso /dev/sdX |
| 00:17.46 | kale | somiaj: well i dod this on ... hold on ... "potato", its been a while, but i guess the trick still works |
| 00:17.57 | mofino | haha potato |
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| 00:18.02 | mofino | been awhile... |
| 00:18.10 | somiaj | tytan: the debian iso images are hybrid and already made to be bootable so you don't need to do anything except write an image to the device |
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| 00:18.26 | mofino | tytan, need to use dd to write the image |
| 00:18.44 | somiaj | tytan: the only major difference between cp and dd is how it writes the data and what block sizes it uses. For the most part the defaults of cp are fine and work better than dd. dd does have more power in cases where the cp defaults aren't good enough |
| 00:18.47 | tytan | somiaj nice to know :) |
| 00:18.48 | somiaj | mofino: you can use cp |
| 00:19.01 | mofino | somiaj, ISO needs to be mounted though, right? |
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| 00:19.23 | mofino | i mean. copying a naked ISO to a USB drive isn't going to do much |
| 00:19.35 | mofino | also, how does it setup the bootsector? |
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| 00:19.55 | marioxcc | hello |
| 00:19.56 | tytan | grabs popcorn |
| 00:20.01 | tytan | marioxcc hi |
| 00:20.15 | marioxcc | what do you guys suggest for system monitoring (including logging of such an information)? |
| 00:20.21 | kale | mofino: the iso is made in s apecial way, so it will boot both from a cd/dvd and a thumbdrive |
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| 00:20.25 | marioxcc | I'm taking a look at sar and rrdtool |
| 00:20.26 | mofino | marioxcc, nagios |
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| 00:20.33 | somiaj | mofino: well a file system needs to be mounted to, but yes I am saying mount the iso as a loopback device |
| 00:20.42 | mofino | kale, ok, but using cp to initialize the USB stick isn't quite going to work |
| 00:20.51 | kale | mofino: true |
| 00:20.54 | mofino | somiaj, ok, then you need to prepare the stick as well |
| 00:20.59 | mofino | just easier to use dd |
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| 00:21.02 | tytan | I was talking about DVD-1 |
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| 00:21.05 | somiaj | mofino: it does, because cp copies the image to the file |
| 00:21.22 | mofino | somiaj, the stick needs a filesystem and a boot sector, cp will not do that |
| 00:21.24 | somiaj | mofino: again we are saying cp debian.iso /dev/sdX (we are copying the image to the file descriptor for the actual device, not copying the iso to the file systme) |
| 00:21.34 | mofino | OH well that's a little different |
| 00:21.45 | mofino | i've never abused cp like that |
| 00:21.56 | marioxcc | what are the benefits and drawbacks of nagios over sar and rddtool? |
| 00:22.00 | somiaj | mofino: the only differcen between dd if=debian.iso of=/dev/sdX and cp debian.iso /dev/sdX is the block sizes it reads/writes (so the technical aspects of the copy) the actual data copy is the same. |
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| 00:22.14 | somiaj | mofino: you could also use cat, cat debian.iso > /dev/sdX |
| 00:22.16 | mofino | marioxcc, nagios is monitoring software, sar and rrdtool is statistic collection |
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| 00:22.25 | tytan | I'd do bs=1m on the end of dd |
| 00:22.27 | mofino | somiaj, sure, didn't realize you were copying right into /dev/sdX |
| 00:22.27 | kale | somiaj: i'm gonna try that. neve cp'ed to a device name before |
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| 00:23.17 | kale | tytan: step1, download all dvd's |
| 00:23.35 | tytan | kale which takes ages here *g* |
| 00:23.45 | kale | tytan: step2, use "dd if=dvd1iamge.iso of=/dev/yourthumbdrive" |
| 00:23.51 | somiaj | mofino: bsaically cp gets suggested here over dd for two reasons. 1) the syntax is a bit more standard and easier to rember, 2) cp defaults to a nicer block size when copying and even though dd is more configurable this gets back to 1), easier and simpler to use and works. |
| 00:23.54 | mofino | marioxcc, collectd and ganglia might also interest you |
| 00:23.54 | tytan | A stunning 126kb/s |
| 00:24.04 | marioxcc | mofino: ok |
| 00:24.19 | somiaj | kale: again cp would probabaly be slightly better there, but they both work |
| 00:24.22 | kale | tytan: step3: copy remaining ISO's to other thumbdrive or media |
| 00:24.23 | mofino | somiaj, yeah cool, never occurred to me to use cp for that purpose, good tip |
| 00:24.28 | somiaj | I think cp is faster until you configure the blocksize of dd correctly |
| 00:24.28 | tytan | somiaj But cp works only if I have a hybrid image, right? |
| 00:24.35 | kale | step4: install debian |
| 00:24.38 | somiaj | tytan: all debian .isos are hybrid |
| 00:24.50 | somiaj | (well dvd1 and cd1, dvd2+ and cd2+ aren't) |
| 00:25.32 | kale | step 5: contents of ALL dvds into local directory by loopback mounting them e.g /var/www/packages |
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| 00:25.51 | kale | step6: add to /etc/apt/sources.list "deb file:/var/www/packages" |
| 00:26.00 | kale | step7: apt-get update |
| 00:26.04 | kale | and you are good to go |
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| 00:26.37 | tytan | somiaj I just asked out of educational reasons. I'm on OS X 10.9.5 right now and normally use dd for a huge variety of distros. And I can learn about cp now :) |
| 00:26.49 | tytan | kale I'll remember it |
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| 00:27.25 | tytan | kale Why in /var/www/ ? |
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| 00:28.05 | kale | tytan: just pulled out of the hat, there might be a better place for it, check FHS |
| 00:28.13 | somiaj | kale: since he will have the dvd images, he should have the apt cdrom tools put a deb-cdrom line in sources.list and scan the cdroms (which requires mounting the isos as a loopback device) |
| 00:28.23 | kale | when i did this on potato it wasnt that much space, i guess there are many more packages today, so it will require quite a bit of space and you will miss security updates. so you will have to mirror security updates somewhere else and copy them in from time to time |
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| 00:28.48 | tytan | kale What's FHS? |
| 00:28.56 | kale | somiaj: if he chooses to do so |
| 00:29.11 | kale | tytan: file hiarchy standard |
| 00:29.17 | tytan | ok |
| 00:30.23 | tytan | kale so it's just about order. I should be fine putting the files in /home/user/documents/images/ too ^^ |
| 00:30.44 | kale | tytan: yes, choose any path you want |
| 00:31.20 | tytan | I just need something I can remember for years :D |
| 00:31.21 | kale | tytan: http://www.unixmen.com/setup-local-repository-with-debian-7/ |
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| 00:32.00 | tytan | perfect |
| 00:32.43 | tytan | So I can perform apt-get dist-upgrade if I get newer ISOs :) |
| 00:32.59 | kale | tytan: should be possible yes |
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| 00:34.26 | tytan | I'm so curious about Debian Jessie. I wonder how it runs on my Dell Latitude D430. It has a slow CPU and only 2GB of RAM. But Debian Wheezy works for me |
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| 00:35.34 | kale | tytan: i'm running on amd64 4200+ and 2Gig ram with xfce, it works just fine |
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| 00:37.22 | tytan | speaking of amd64 ... Since Google threw out Chrome 64 Bit for OS X I wonder when the first 64 bit Chromium for Debian will be available. |
| 00:37.55 | kale | tytan: chromium bsu is ready :-) |
| 00:38.06 | tytan | bsu? |
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| 00:40.59 | Shadow_7 | I run debian wheezy on my dell inspiron 1150 |
| 00:41.33 | Shadow_7 | 0.5gb of ram so can't be bothered with jessie for gaming |
| 00:41.34 | tytan | kale "Chromium B.S.U. is an arcade-style, top-scrolling space shooter available on Windows, iPhone, PSP, Mac, Linux and numerous other UNIX-like operating systems. It is a free software distributed under the Artistic License." |
| 00:41.58 | kale | tytan: and it was there before googles chromium and its still better |
| 00:42.25 | tytan | kale So you really refered to that? xD |
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| 00:45.54 | kale | mofino: seems going down to 200MHz on the RAM has stabilized the system. using smp again. will be go down to 100MHz if the problem occours again, thanks |
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| 00:47.50 | marioxcc | hello. how can I limit bandwidth given to a given port? |
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| 00:48.27 | tytan | marioxcc Ethernet port or port in therms of networking? |
| 00:49.08 | kale | marioxcc: up or down or both? |
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| 00:49.52 | marioxcc | tytan, kale: sorry, I mean UDP port. I want to limit bandwidth in both directions. |
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| 00:50.37 | tytan | is afk for a moment |
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| 00:51.35 | kale | marioxcc: you should take a look at qdiscs, combined with iptables. mark the packats for that udp port, then make them end up in a qdisc with low bandwith |
| 00:51.55 | kale | marioxcc: for upload i think its ingress, but i have never done that |
| 00:52.08 | marioxcc | kale: ok |
| 00:54.21 | kale | marioxcc: http://incoming.kallenberg.dk/firewall is part of what i use. see if it makes sense to you. also its old, so some of the iptables rules are obsolote, but its a good starting point. i will remove it in a couple of days |
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| 00:56.15 | kale | marioxcc: you should get the iproute2 package |
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| 00:58.06 | marioxcc | kale: hasn't iproute been obsoleted by iptables? |
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| 00:58.57 | kale | marioxcc: oh no, that would be ipfwdadm obsoleted |
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| 00:59.32 | guy1 | hi |
| 00:59.48 | tytan | guy1 'sup? |
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| 01:00.55 | disse | hey guys, where do I find the source code of the telnetd debian package? On the debian website I'm only able to download the compiled package |
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| 01:01.52 | marioxcc | disse: do "apt-get source PACKAGE_NAME" |
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| 01:02.32 | eurobit | disse: don't you want to really use sshd? |
| 01:03.03 | marioxcc | how can I measure the bandwidth usage of a program (possibly using cgroup)? |
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| 01:03.24 | kale | marioxcc: iptraf could get you partly there |
| 01:03.24 | marioxcc | for instance, in "top" and "ps" the used CPU time is show, is there something like this for transference? |
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| 01:04.11 | marioxcc | kale: iptraf is interactive, I need something suitable for a script. |
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| 01:04.33 | disse | eurobit no, it is just for a bridged virtual machine which doesn't have access to internet. |
| 01:04.41 | heurist | disse: https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/telnetd has a link to "Download Source Package" |
| 01:04.53 | disse | thank you guys ;) |
| 01:04.57 | kale | marioxcc: if you use the qdiscs you can count the number of packages in each qdisc |
| 01:05.30 | disse | *hasn't |
| 01:05.33 | kale | marioxcc: you can also make iptables log using regular rules |
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| 01:06.19 | marioxcc | kale: plain logging? that'd have a very high overhead |
| 01:06.30 | marioxcc | and I don't know if it can log bandwidth usage |
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| 01:06.41 | kale | marioxcc: i think its logging to mysql, but i do not remember |
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| 01:07.02 | marioxcc | kale: iptables? it doesn't log to mysql that I'm aware of. |
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| 01:07.41 | eurobit | disse: what kind of files/transfer you needing ? |
| 01:08.32 | disse | eurobit I want to transfer bash commands |
| 01:08.44 | kale | marioxcc: ulogd, which then logs in mysql |
| 01:08.47 | disse | and yes, I fully know the security risks |
| 01:08.59 | disse | but it's just a vm ;) |
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| 01:09.17 | kale | disse: what exactly is it you want to do? |
| 01:09.17 | disse | now I want to patch the source code to not login |
| 01:09.33 | marioxcc | disse: if you want to have access to a virtual machine, you should still use SSH |
| 01:09.42 | disse | send my vm a command |
| 01:09.47 | disse | and I want to measure ssh |
| 01:09.51 | kale | disse: ssh user@host "command" |
| 01:09.53 | disse | so I can't send the commands via ssh |
| 01:09.56 | disse | omfg |
| 01:09.56 | marioxcc | unless it's local AND you have triple checked your firewall to only allow local connections from your user |
| 01:10.18 | marioxcc | !ssh-server |
| 01:10.24 | marioxcc | !v ssh-server |
| 01:10.26 | marioxcc | uh |
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| 01:11.11 | disse | I don't need a firewall with my routing table |
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| 01:11.28 | disse | I do know what I'm doing but thx |
| 01:11.37 | kale | disse: what is it about ssh you want to measure? |
| 01:11.48 | disse | the overhead |
| 01:11.51 | disse | with iptraf |
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| 01:12.05 | kale | disse: cpu overhead? |
| 01:12.06 | disse | with specific file sizes, compression, arcfour or aes and so on |
| 01:12.16 | disse | no, packet size |
| 01:12.41 | kale | disse: perhaps running something locally in screen would help ? |
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| 01:13.01 | yuvadm | how do I "change DVDs" during installation if I have 3 USB sticks instead of DVDs? |
| 01:13.19 | disse | kale I didn't understand what I have to run in screen ;) |
| 01:13.22 | yuvadm | should just un/pluging work? |
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| 01:13.38 | kale | disse: whatever you would run with telnet |
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| 01:14.03 | disse | then I had to start the vm with screen, hmm |
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| 01:15.06 | disse | well, due to I have written a script which uses a bind shell (and I'm now switching to telnet, cuz the bindshell isn't reliable) it's easier to me to use a modified telnetd source |
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| 01:16.03 | kale | disse: allrighty, i do not know what you are trying to accomplish, so its rather hard to help further |
| 01:16.30 | disse | kale no problem, you guys helped me how to resolv the source, that's everything ;) |
| 01:16.32 | iateadonut | i'm trying to send a url in a get url, so the argument itself would be something like: page.php?otherpage='page2.php?param=cool' - how can i do that? |
| 01:17.22 | marioxcc | iateadonut: with curl, wget? |
| 01:17.27 | marioxcc | what are you having problems with? |
| 01:17.48 | marioxcc | if it's the shell, then surround everything with ' ' and make sure to escpe single quotes |
| 01:18.15 | iateadonut | sorry. i thought i was typing in #php |
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| 01:18.44 | Foxhoundz | Where can I donwload HURD version of Debian |
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| 01:20.03 | eurobit | hurd don't need debian |
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| 01:20.24 | marioxcc | how can I figure how much data has a process transferred? |
| 01:20.36 | marioxcc | (in a way suitable for monitoring scripts) |
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| 01:20.55 | heurist | marioxcc: atop might be workable. |
| 01:21.28 | eurobit | iateadonut: curl -d "otherpage=page2.php" -d "param=cool" http://..../page.php |
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| 01:26.58 | marioxcc | kale: by qdisc did you meant the option "qdisc" for "tc"? |
| 01:27.31 | kale | marioxcc: yes... that option handles the qdisc |
| 01:27.45 | kale | marioxcc: but you can see traffic per qdics, not per process |
| 01:27.52 | marioxcc | kale: ok |
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| 01:32.43 | kale | marioxcc: is it "how much udp traffic in bytes per second per process"? |
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| 01:33.10 | iateadonut | thanks eurobit, marioxcc, but i accidentally typed this here instead of #php - i appreciate the response, though. |
| 01:34.22 | marioxcc | kale: no, I'm looking for something like the TIME column of "ps aux" |
| 01:34.47 | kale | marioxcc: so how long the connection has been open? |
| 01:35.17 | marioxcc | kale: no, I want to know how much data a process has transferred through eth0 (for instance) for all of its existence |
| 01:35.21 | heurist | marioxcc: did you look at atop ? |
| 01:35.24 | marioxcc | so that I can write an script that detects anomalies |
| 01:36.18 | marioxcc | heurist: yes, it shows real time network usage, but I don't find how to make it display cummulative network usage (I.e: transfer) |
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| 01:38.24 | heurist | marioxcc: hmmm, it does store historical in /var/log/atop, you may be able to parse the (binary) format of that files and make your own totals. sounds messy though. |
| 01:38.48 | marioxcc | heurist: yes, indeed. |
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| 01:40.06 | disse | Why isn't there a -R option in scp which makes the same as -r .... |
| 01:40.10 | disse | thats kind of stupid |
| 01:40.22 | eurobit | tell that in $openssh |
| 01:40.28 | disse | ok |
| 01:40.47 | petemc | those openssh clowns havent a clue what they're at |
| 01:40.58 | marioxcc | disse: for recursive transfer you should use sftp |
| 01:41.03 | heurist | disse: and -P in scp is -p in ssh |
| 01:41.13 | disse | XD |
| 01:41.28 | disse | that's what I'm talking about, why do they do this? |
| 01:41.30 | kale | marioxcc: pktstat is nice, but not what you want |
| 01:41.43 | disse | just to f*ck up some guys every time? |
| 01:42.50 | marioxcc | kale: right :) |
| 01:43.25 | marioxcc | disse: the man page says that "-p" is already used, though, I think that they should have kept "-p" for scp the same as "-p" for ssh. |
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| 01:44.25 | pingfloyd | Then there are a million other apps to mess with your muscle memory |
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| 01:48.01 | kale | marioxcc: nethogs ... may dump into a file |
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| 01:50.57 | marioxcc | kale: nice, I will check it |
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| 01:54.37 | seeker63 | I have loaded wheezy with nvidia legacy drivers and can not get resolution of 1024X768. have tried xrandr --newmode and i get a no size gamma default error |
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| 01:56.57 | kale | marioxcc: http://boopathi.in/blog/capturing-per-process-bandwidth-usage-using-nethogs/ |
| 01:57.13 | kale | marioxcc: not that i can get it working though, but its what you want |
| 01:57.24 | joren | Hey, I'm trying to use udev to create multiple symlinks and I'm wondering if anyone knows how to make it automatically stick a number on the end of the symlink. disk1, disk2, etc.. |
| 01:59.02 | marioxcc | kale: thanks you very much. I bookmarked it. |
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| 02:01.54 | nrdb | Hi I am trying to setup dnsmasq ... but I am having trouble with the dhcp-boot option in the dnsmasq.conf file ... can anyone help? |
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| 02:04.48 | wjtaylor | what's the best way to install a .deb |
| 02:05.06 | cmhobbs | wjtaylor, dpkg -i package.deb |
| 02:05.08 | nrdb | the line "dhcp-boot=net:pxe,/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0,ltsp,10.9.1.2" doesn't make the redirect to the correct host |
| 02:05.10 | cmhobbs | unless there's another way |
| 02:05.11 | cmhobbs | i'm not an expert |
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| 02:05.53 | cmhobbs | anyone know the best way to get xfce 4.10 in stable? 4.8 is available but i'd like a couple of the newer features |
| 02:06.10 | wjtaylor | cmhobbs: I'm installing an newer version of an installed .deb (manually installed, like this one is). Will it delete the old stuff (binary, not config)? |
| 02:06.26 | cmhobbs | wjtaylor, i'm not entirely sure |
| 02:06.28 | cmhobbs | sorry |
| 02:06.33 | wjtaylor | Thanks! |
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| 02:08.51 | cmhobbs | sure thing! |
| 02:10.11 | seeker63 | dpkg screen resolution |
| 02:10.12 | dpkg | seeker63: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 02:10.15 | rryoumaa | hmm, i am using iceweasel from "deb http://mozilla.debian.net/ wheezy-backports iceweasel-release" and a misdrag (i often slip the mouse) gets me into a mode where firefox wants to show sponsored content. i can't get out of the mode. i don't know how i get into it. it is a canvas with fake windows inside it. all of my previous tabs are apparently gone. |
| 02:10.17 | cmhobbs | wjtaylor, from dpkg (1): 2. If another version of the same package was installed before the new installation, execute prerm script of the old package. |
| 02:10.31 | seeker63 | dpkg nvidia |
| 02:10.31 | dpkg | Where possible, Nvidia graphic processing units are supported using the open source <nouveau> driver on Debian systems by default. To install the proprietary "nvidia" driver, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers or ask me about <nvidia dkms>, <nvidia legacy>; installing this directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia on irc.freenode.net. |
| 02:10.39 | rryoumaa | is this apparent blatantly dfsg-violating feature known to debian? |
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| 02:11.56 | seeker63 | dpkg nvidia legacy |
| 02:11.57 | dpkg | Nvidia proprietary 173.14.xx and 96.43.xx legacy drivers support GPUs made before 2004, which are no longer supported by the Nvidia proprietary unified driver. To install, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers or ask me about <nvidia dkms-173xx> (supports GeForce 5/FX GPUs) or <nvidia dkms-96xx> (supports GeForce 2/3/4 GPUs). See also <nouveau>. |
| 02:13.18 | rjsalts | rryoumaa: how is it dfsg violating? and can you show us a screenshot or something? |
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| 02:20.49 | z8z | Hello, someone knows some micro usb wireless pen 'cause i'm almost giving up on searching for a device which works not using the nonfree repos |
| 02:21.16 | marioxcc | z8z: I'm glad that you asked. There are indeed some. |
| 02:21.27 | marioxcc | https://www.thinkpenguin.com/gnu-linux/catalog |
| 02:21.45 | marioxcc | http://h-node.org/ |
| 02:22.01 | Kobra | hmm, is there any chance in starting to get lua-systemd in debian? (https://github.com/daurnimator/lua-systemd) |
| 02:22.24 | seeker63 | so i need some feedback why isnt my question being discussed |
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| 02:23.22 | z8z | marioxcc: do you also know how if there are some internal card compatible with one of these cards in the list? http://www.linlap.com/hp_elitebook_8460p |
| 02:23.54 | z8z | marioxcc: i tryed 3 of those but they need nonfree firmware :( |
| 02:23.57 | marioxcc | z8z: no, I don't know sorry. |
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| 02:26.23 | z8z | marioxcc: wow .... stuff in there costs like a f..k... |
| 02:26.46 | marioxcc | z8z: you can also look for the same hardware elsewhere. |
| 02:27.11 | marioxcc | z8z: also, you can do it the other way, look for free software wireless drivers and then look for hardware that is compatible with those drivers |
| 02:27.26 | marioxcc | I think that usually drivers are chip-specific, and several card models may use the same chip |
| 02:28.35 | z8z | marioxcc: yeah but i guess that with free firmware i'll never get any internal pci card to work |
| 02:29.11 | marioxcc | z8z: I think that the problem is mostly limited to wireless cards. |
| 02:29.36 | marioxcc | I have heard that intel hardware has good free software support. |
| 02:29.56 | marioxcc | also, I'm currently using a wireless network without proprietary software, the driver is "ath9k" |
| 02:30.05 | marioxcc | also take a look into libreWRT |
| 02:30.23 | marioxcc | you may not use it, but the people develping or using it may advise you on which hardware to get |
| 02:31.08 | z8z | marioxcc: well....when is about finding a external pen or stuff that's easy but when the hardware is something which has to go inside laptop that become a real pain |
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| 02:31.33 | marioxcc | z8z: I can't help beyond the limited help that giving those pointes above is. |
| 02:31.34 | marioxcc | sorry |
| 02:31.43 | z8z | thanks anyway |
| 02:31.59 | z8z | you helped a lot |
| 02:32.36 | z8z | marioxcc: but this time prolly i'm going to break the free software rules and put the proprietary stuff |
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| 02:33.24 | marioxcc | z8z: well, it's not about "rules" really, it's avoid limiting yourself and contributing (E.g: voting with your pocket for) to perpretrate the manufacture of this kind of hardware. |
| 02:33.28 | seeker63 | marioxcc: could you answer a question about procedure on this channell |
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| 02:33.47 | marioxcc | seeker63: procedure? I don't know what you mean |
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| 02:34.37 | seeker63 | marioxcc: i have posted a question on this channel for the last three nights and noone picks it up. just wondering if i have been blacklisted |
| 02:34.37 | nrdb | Hi I am trying to setup dnsmasq ... but I am having trouble with the dhcp-boot option in the dnsmasq.conf file ... the line "dhcp-boot=net:pxe,/ltsp/i386/pxelinux.0,ltsp,10.9.1.2" doesn't cause the client to boot from the correct tftp server ... can anyone help? |
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| 02:35.09 | ravigehlot | How do I fix the terminal resolution? When I reboot, it comes up in high res but then it drops when it reaches the prompt |
| 02:35.21 | marioxcc | seeker63: if you can send messages to the channel, you haven't. Try the debian-user mailing list |
| 02:35.39 | eurobit | seeker63: what is this question |
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| 02:35.57 | seeker63 | marioxcc; ok thanks a lot |
| 02:36.16 | marioxcc | seeker63: when you ask about an issue that few people know about, nobody will reply most of the time. we (at least I) reply only for things that we can contribute, rather than making noise with replying with "I can't help" :) |
| 02:36.31 | marioxcc | good luck with your inquery. |
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| 02:37.47 | seeker63 | eurobit: I have installed wheezy with nvidia legacy and can not get screen to be at resolution 1024X768. i have tried to xrandr --newmode and it errors by saying can not find size of gamma output default |
| 02:37.58 | seeker63 | marioxcc: thanks |
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| 02:39.00 | heurist | seeker63: you have also been asking exactly the same question for a few days, with no evidence that you have any googling or outside research. maybe start by reading: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html |
| 02:39.08 | seeker63 | eurobit: would this be better handled in the nvidia channel |
| 02:40.22 | seeker63 | heurist: thanks i will look at that website but I have been googling, reading the nvidiagraphic section of debian site and not finding anything that works |
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| 02:53.15 | duckx0r | I'm having an error with some cron jobs that are run as www-data and need read access to the apache log files, which are owned by root:adm. Would there be any security issues in adding www-data to the adm group? |
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| 02:57.17 | danlamanna | i'm not positive, but i'm pretty sure that means that any web files owned by www-data could execute anything the adm group could |
| 02:57.30 | danlamanna | so think like, php files as part of a website could read apache log files. |
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| 02:58.30 | heurist | duckx0r: maybe create a new user, add them to the adm and www-data groups and have them do the cron stuff? |
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| 03:00.57 | duckx0r | heurist, that's actually a good idea. The only thing is that i have virtualmin installed and by default it uses www-data. of course I could just edit the cron jobs, but any *new* ones would have to be manually edited |
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| 03:02.09 | heurist | duckx0r: you can probably edit the user that virtualmin uses. |
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| 03:05.52 | duckx0r | heurist, doesn't look like there's the option to edit the default cron user without doing it manually after the cron job is already created. anyway, i'll probably do what you said and create a new user and add it to adm and www-data and edit them manually every time a new virtual server is created |
| 03:06.38 | heurist | duckx0r: isn't virtualmin just php? you should be able to grep that for cron and www-data and edit the php files. |
| 03:07.21 | duckx0r | heurist, pretty sure it's not php |
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| 03:08.00 | duckx0r | heurist, the files could be overwritten on updates too |
| 03:09.03 | duckx0r | heurist, i'll give it a try though |
| 03:09.15 | Dewio | I think it's perl, but taking on maintenance of it is probably a bit of a burden |
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| 03:24.37 | pingfloyd | duckx0r: looks like www-data is the user apache runs under. So creating a new user is the way to go, because you especially want to give that particular the least privileges possible |
| 03:25.22 | duckx0r | pingfloyd, yep that's exactly what i did. thanks. and heurist too. |
| 03:25.45 | pingfloyd | duckx0r: usually these kinds of snafus are where you want to think about your groups |
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| 03:28.54 | pingfloyd | duckx0r: problem is when the group doesn't have the needed perms for the user you would normally add to it |
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| 03:29.48 | pingfloyd | e.g. user needs rwx but group that owns has r-x. That's always a bit of a quagmire. |
| 03:29.55 | indes | Anyone setup qtcreator .. ? It seems to segfault immediately, probably due to some intricacy with qtchooser |
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| 03:31.07 | matususu | ok, anyone against the pro-systemd GR decision please join #debianfork |
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| 03:36.02 | Simotek-Work | matususu, i'm pretty sure it wasn't a pro-systemd decision, if it was the result would have been #3, i think it was more pro-the current debian process works and we will fix issues as they come |
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| 03:40.05 | matususu | my god, even on #debianfork there are people talking about wayland and kde |
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| 03:42.19 | pingfloyd | matususu: who is GR? |
| 03:42.34 | matususu | pingfloyd: General Resolution |
| 03:42.40 | matususu | pingfloyd: 5 star general |
| 03:44.03 | pingfloyd | matususu: this here I take it https://www.debian.org/vote/2014/vote_003.en.html |
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| 03:45.21 | Simotek-Work | that wayland / kde is kinda funny matususu seen as currently all wayland shells require systemd for authentication |
| 03:45.22 | pingfloyd | I like that they're letting the user choose their init |
| 03:47.07 | Simotek-Work | its a nice idea, but in reality it really means you have 2 different distro's sort of merged together as one each with there own lot of bugs |
| 03:47.13 | pingfloyd | it seems like it could be an advantage because then you choose your init that works best with your usage. Like you may prefer systemd on a laptop but sysv init on a server |
| 03:47.26 | pingfloyd | you get to run debian either for both if you want |
| 03:48.38 | Simotek-Work | its going to be alot of work though, especially if upstreams keep using more systemd and friend features, but if someones willing to do the work i wouldn't stop them |
| 03:48.52 | pingfloyd | it's also something can help distinguish debian more as a distro. What will probably end up happening though, is others following suit if it works out well. |
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| 03:49.20 | pingfloyd | yeah, the fracturing of the community is a concern |
| 03:50.12 | pingfloyd | user freedom is the big selling point of using linux/gnu though |
| 03:50.24 | pingfloyd | and that just follows that philosophy |
| 03:50.46 | pingfloyd | it's all about the user is in control of the system instead of the system being in control of the user |
| 03:51.12 | Simotek-Work | some people started looking at adding sysvinit support back to openSUSE a while back, i'm not sure how far they got before they realised it was going to be a huge amount of work |
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| 03:51.24 | pingfloyd | even though so many users insist on losing their freedom |
| 03:51.53 | matususu | pingfloyd: the debianfork channel is dissapointing |
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| 03:51.57 | Simotek-Work | but then again openSUSE has already dropped alot of init scripts |
| 03:52.59 | Simotek-Work | pingfloyd, i don't use linux for freedom, i use it because it supports multiple desktops independantly on multiple screens |
| 03:53.05 | pingfloyd | I care mostly that init is reliable |
| 03:53.06 | Simotek-Work | but i enjoy being free to do taht |
| 03:53.24 | pingfloyd | I'm okay if it goes to systemd as long as it is as dependable sysv |
| 03:53.33 | Simotek-Work | yeah i mostly care that i don't notice it unless i want to turn network manager on or off |
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| 03:54.30 | pingfloyd | sysv has some shortcomings, but it's huge strength is its simplicity and transparency and debian has usually address those dilemmas rather well by leveraging it with packaging. |
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| 03:55.10 | pingfloyd | but systemd feels more plug and prayish |
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| 03:55.20 | pingfloyd | so it needs to "just work" even more |
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| 03:56.03 | matususu | pingfloyd: you should sue all the systemd debian people |
| 03:56.05 | matususu | SUE them |
| 03:56.08 | matususu | (sue them) |
| 03:56.25 | pingfloyd | why? |
| 03:56.33 | un214 | well considering I just got through making lilo work again |
| 03:56.34 | matususu | they fucked you |
| 03:56.36 | matususu | that's why |
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| 03:56.45 | matususu | you can't just sit there and take it |
| 03:56.47 | un214 | I could indeed make sysvinit work on debian next no problem |
| 03:56.55 | matususu | if you feel fucked, there's probably a case there |
| 03:56.56 | dondelelcaro | this all conversation is totally off topic. Take it elsewhere, please. |
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| 03:56.59 | un214 | gnome goes in the wastebin though |
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| 04:18.59 | mofino | Ian... |
| 04:19.07 | mofino | :( |
| 04:19.24 | mofino | thanks for the pain guys |
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| 04:26.15 | dorkusmaximus | dont quite get it. everyone says optical media is dead and outdated, but when i go to most linux distro sites, they seem to expect you'll be burning an image to optical media for install |
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| 04:27.26 | dondelelcaro | dorkusmaximus: they're just convenient. You can install Debian using almost any type of media you want |
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| 04:28.03 | dorkusmaximus | yeah, hopefully. unfortunately my stupid burning program wont burn an iso to any drive other than my optical drive |
| 04:28.14 | dorkusmaximus | trying to figure out how to get the iso on the usb drive |
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| 04:35.48 | darlinger | anyone here multiboot with luks/lvm? |
| 04:36.31 | dondelelcaro | dorkusmaximus: http://www.chrysocome.net/dd I think may work |
| 04:36.38 | dondelelcaro | dorkusmaximus: but I have to admit I've not tried it |
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| 04:47.19 | kristal | "Geekfeminism policy" "The Male Programmer Privilege Checklist" "Mansplaining" https://wiki.debian.org/AntiHarassment |
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| 04:48.28 | kristal | Since when did Debian go SJW |
| 04:48.58 | kristal | It just makes centrist feminists feel unwelcome |
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| 04:52.37 | darlinger | kristal: mansplaining... heh. i do that with everyone unintentionally regardless of race, sex, or creed. call me an equal opportunity condescender |
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| 04:54.12 | kristal | darlinger: geekfeminism is hillariously racist for being pro equality, I was called an uncle tom because I posted under #notyourshield |
| 04:54.49 | kristal | But I'm not black, I'm Jewish! |
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| 04:56.06 | darlinger | kristal: what is the notyourshield stuff about exactly? i know it has to do with gamergate |
| 04:56.39 | darlinger | and feminism is so far from what it used to be. makes me a little sad inside |
| 04:57.10 | kristal | darlinger: woman and minorities angry over AntiGG trying to frame all gamers as white misogynists |
| 04:57.49 | darlinger | kristal: i once had someone try to convince me that there were more female gamers than male |
| 04:57.54 | darlinger | kristal: didn't work |
| 04:58.02 | dorkusmaximus | no luck installing debian yet |
| 04:58.41 | darlinger | dorkusmaximus: what problems are you having? |
| 04:58.51 | kristal | darlinger: it's actually an even split acording to EA, women just don't play shooters as much |
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| 04:59.38 | dorkusmaximus | finally got an iso onto a usb drive and got it to boot. but once i got to the select language screen for install, it wont recognize my mouse/keyboard anymore. probably doesnt like the fact that they're wireless. but thats all ive got as far as an extra mouse/kb go. |
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| 05:00.30 | darlinger | kristal: ah there's my problem. women have definitely had an influence on gaming. wasn't the rpg invented by a woman? |
| 05:00.56 | darlinger | dorkusmaximus: mouse/keyboard shouldn't be a problem. try a different usb port? |
| 05:01.01 | kristal | darlinger: not sure, but there's a ton of women in the RPG game industry |
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| 05:02.38 | dorkusmaximus | darlinger: tried two more...no response from mouse or kb |
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| 05:02.55 | dorkusmaximus | using the netinstall iso if it matters |
| 05:03.15 | darlinger | kristal: i'd believe it. i just find the whole women's issues concerning the gaming community to be a little humorous |
| 05:03.38 | darlinger | dorkusmaximus: hmmmmmm. do you have a different keyboard on hand? |
| 05:03.41 | kristal | dorkusmaximus: is it a combo wireless mouse & keyboard? sometimes the net image is missing drivers |
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| 05:04.08 | dorkusmaximus | yeah, its a logitech combo wireless kb/mouse |
| 05:04.15 | kristal | dorkusmaximus: mk320? |
| 05:04.17 | dorkusmaximus | all ive got for an extra |
| 05:04.24 | dorkusmaximus | K400r |
| 05:04.42 | kristal | dorkusmaximus: don't know that one, know 320 works though |
| 05:05.19 | darlinger | i'd say it's a kernel issue. i would try lsusb but your keyboard doesn't work |
| 05:05.36 | kristal | dorkusmaximus: do you want to install a desktop liek kde or xfce? |
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| 05:06.10 | darlinger | kristal: and i don't mean that i find women being misrepresented or alienated to be funny, as well as anyone for that matter |
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| 05:06.19 | dorkusmaximus | i just wanted to see what debian was like and didnt want to download 12gb of isos |
| 05:06.32 | kristal | darlinger: GamerGate is hilarious, Wikileaks said "Oh, the media hates you? Welcome to the club. Keep digging." |
| 05:07.14 | kristal | darlinger: Only reason why radfem goes after GamerGate is because a couple of the people they dropped docs on are part of the SJW club |
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| 05:07.24 | darlinger | kristal: i just find it funny that people are getting upset about a typically young, awkward, rude, immature, and sexually-frustrated male community being a young, awkward, rude, immature, and sexually-frustrated male community |
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| 05:07.56 | kristal | darlinger: Actually, you'd be surprised how old the big GGers are, a lot of journalists and lawyers |
| 05:09.01 | dorkusmaximus | why is gender even an issue in gaming? |
| 05:09.07 | Dewi | kristal: it has failed all along to disassociate from, or admit to being, explicitly reactionary to SJWs |
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| 05:09.51 | kristal | dorkusmaximus: ya games are colourblind, everyone is the same behid the keyboard, as there's such a massive variety of games that everyone is happy |
| 05:09.54 | Dewi | so I'm not really surprised by the media reaction |
| 05:10.18 | kristal | Dewi: It's hard to keep a leaderless herd away when there's non stop hit pieces in the media |
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| 05:11.15 | kristal | Dewi: http://imgur.com/a/kahzN It's pretty much a clickbait campaign, trolling is today's business model in media |
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| 05:11.48 | Dewi | kristal: nothing about that series is any different from any other news story though, I find it hilarious that people see that as a "conspiracy" |
| 05:12.12 | darlinger | kristal: not entirely true about it being colorblind. people who play female characters are treated differently than those who play males |
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| 05:12.47 | Dewi | darlinger: and a pretty big majority of AAA titles don't let you do that |
| 05:12.50 | kristal | darlinger: In my experience, I'm treated better when people know I'm a chick |
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| 05:13.28 | darlinger | Dewi: true. but rpgs. |
| 05:13.31 | dorkusmaximus | ya, must be no driver on the netinstall. i put my ubuntu image on usb and the installer is working with the kb/mouse. not sure how i can install the full debian, tho. its 3 4gb isos and i dont have 3 extra usb drives to burn them to |
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| 05:14.11 | darlinger | kristal: but don't you ever get hit on? i feel like it's some neckbeard's dream to run into a female gamer online to associate with |
| 05:14.12 | kristal | dorkusmaximus: what desktop do you want to run? there's some debian spins |
| 05:14.14 | Dewi | darlinger: indeed, but there's more male-only RPGs than female-only |
| 05:14.25 | Dewi | darlinger: (but most are pretty good these days) |
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| 05:14.40 | kristal | darlinger: I do, but it's always sarcastic |
| 05:14.44 | Arven | I'm looking for a way to set "wake on pattern match" rather than wake on magic packet or wake on directed packet |
| 05:14.57 | dorkusmaximus | kristal: i dunno...kde, gnome, whatev |
| 05:15.03 | Arven | specifically I want only traffic coming in to specific ports to wake a computer from suspend |
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| 05:15.22 | darlinger | kristal: lol as long as it's sarcastic... |
| 05:15.50 | kristal | darlinger: I've been called a cunt IRL more than online... |
| 05:16.02 | darlinger | dorkusmaximus: try this. take the iso and write it straight to your hard disk. then boot it while passing "toram" to the kernel |
| 05:16.20 | darlinger | kristal: never really liked that word. it's really ugly |
| 05:16.30 | darlinger | kristal: except in kill bill... |
| 05:16.47 | darlinger | dorkusmaximus: or is it doliveram.... it's one of those |
| 05:16.47 | kristal | darlinger: ya it's the strongest gendered swear word |
| 05:17.04 | dorkusmaximus | not really sure what that means. but the hard disk is blank and unformatted at present. |
| 05:17.41 | kristal | dorkusmaximus: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-cd/ xfce, lxde, kde, gnome :D |
| 05:17.49 | darlinger | dorkusmaximus: hmmmmmm on second thought that still requires you to have a bigger usb drive |
| 05:18.15 | darlinger | dorkusmaximus: dude you just need to get a decent usb. i got a 16gb for $10 the other day |
| 05:18.43 | darlinger | kristal: maybe it's just because it sounds uglier than dick |
| 05:18.59 | dorkusmaximus | how would that work? i dont have any utility that can burn three individual iso images to a single usb drive and have them all mesh and have the drive be bootable |
| 05:19.01 | darlinger | kristal: i flinch when i hear it. just very ugly sounding |
| 05:19.10 | kristal | Is debian going to support a small alternative to sytemd for us embedded nuts? It's kinda huge when you only have 1GB flash |
| 05:19.40 | darlinger | kristal: are you talking about openrc? |
| 05:19.41 | Dewi | kristal: you in USA? It really is less gendered outside USA |
| 05:20.03 | darlinger | dorkusmaximus: what do you mean? you only need one, good image |
| 05:20.14 | kristal | darlinger: openrc would be nice, anythign small would do, simple |
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| 05:20.22 | kristal | Dewi: Canada and USA |
| 05:20.22 | dorkusmaximus | darlinger: the debian website has the distro split into 3 separate 4gb iso images. |
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| 05:20.32 | Dewi | kristal: in australia it's pretty much something guys call each other |
| 05:20.33 | darlinger | dorkusmaximus: you only need one |
| 05:20.47 | Dewi | kristal: and you have to dig to get to literal meaning |
| 05:21.02 | kristal | Dewi: heh ya, it's nowhere near as strong in aus |
| 05:21.12 | darlinger | dorkusmaximus: oh wait that is weird... |
| 05:21.13 | Dewi | kristal: we swear a lot in general |
| 05:21.56 | Rusty1 | dorkusmaximus: not a wired usb kb to be had? |
| 05:22.14 | Dewi | kristal: compare with "bitch". that's muuuch more gendered female here, but in the USA I assume they're about equally coded |
| 05:22.15 | dorkusmaximus | Rusty1: only the one im using now on my primary desktop |
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| 05:22.48 | kristal | Dewi: bitch in US/Can can be neutral or female |
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| 05:23.58 | Rusty1 | dorkusmaximus: for the pupose of the netinst, plug it in and use it , then see if the wireless works once the install is complete |
| 05:24.07 | dorkusmaximus | suppose i can just go buy an extra optical dlive at some point. i find it funny the hardware people keep telling me optical is dead, yet so much still seems highly biased toward it. |
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| 05:24.45 | Dewi | kristal: if a guy gets called a 'bitch' it's usually for emasculation, here. Not so with the C word here, any kind of detestable behaviour (or joking condemnation) works |
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| 05:25.48 | Dewi | I won't argue it's completely ungendered, the literal meaning is still there, I just think it's an example of drift |
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| 05:27.30 | darlinger | dorkusmaximus: optical IS dead |
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| 05:27.50 | sadsagfjg | Hi |
| 05:28.12 | sadsagfjg | I want to write in persian in vum how to this work? |
| 05:28.13 | Dewi | dorkusmaximus: all my opticals died so our house just has one ancient USB one, and it barely gets used |
| 05:28.26 | sadsagfjg | *vim |
| 05:28.41 | Dewi | pretty much to run boot rescue, which I could do with USB if formatting them didn't confuse me |
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| 05:28.47 | Dewi | er flash storage |
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| 05:29.59 | sadsagfjg | all:I want to write in persian in vum how to this work? |
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| 05:30.07 | sadsagfjg | *vim |
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| 05:30.41 | kristal | kate supports farsi :P |
| 05:31.19 | sadsagfjg | kristal: what is kate? |
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| 05:31.28 | kristal | sadsagfjg: it's a GUI text editor |
| 05:31.34 | sadsagfjg | kristal: you can speak english? |
| 05:31.45 | sadsagfjg | *persian |
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| 05:32.41 | kristal | sadsagfjg: nope, friend is persian linux user, non-latin in CLI/TUI is pretty spotty |
| 05:33.39 | sadsagfjg | kristal: ok but iw ant work in vim |
| 05:33.47 | sadsagfjg | *i want |
| 05:34.04 | klys | use fbterm...? |
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| 05:34.47 | sadsagfjg | klys: me? |
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| 05:35.20 | klys | if there is a farsi input support for fbterm |
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| 05:35.42 | kristal | i love it when vnc randomly drops because the screen is too busy |
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| 05:36.16 | sadsagfjg | klys: no gnome terminal |
| 05:37.21 | klys | I think he meant, no, that he is using gnome terminal. I do not have gnome3 installed. |
| 05:37.31 | kristal | sadsagfjg: it looks like right to left lang support is kinda broken |
| 05:38.29 | sadsagfjg | kristal: yes |
| 05:38.39 | kristal | I can't stop reading https://wiki.debian.org/AntiHarassment's links and wondering if outsiders are going to start shaping debian like gnome |
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| 05:41.03 | kristal | I left gnome because I wanted to promote technology education to young girls, got shot down, they then blew their budget on OPW |
| 05:41.06 | darlinger | kristal: i'm also not very hip to the state of gnome. care to explain? |
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| 05:41.54 | Simotek-Work | sadsagfjg, as someone who has done programming for right to left languages kde stuff normally supports it pretty well |
| 05:41.57 | kristal | darlinger: Gnome blew it's entire cash reserve on an internship program, the director then quit |
| 05:41.59 | Simotek-Work | so you could try console |
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| 05:42.29 | Simotek-Work | konsole * |
| 05:42.57 | klys | are we mostly afraid of gnome, whoever we are? |
| 05:43.25 | darlinger | kristal: their outreach program. oh man |
| 05:43.29 | sadsagfjg | Simotek-Work: thanks |
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| 05:44.18 | kristal | darlinger: I kept trying to convince them if they wanted to help women in technology, you gotta get them at an early age, instead they just hired women already in tech... |
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| 05:44.23 | Simotek-Work | sadsagfjg, does farsi change the character depending on whether its at the start middle or end of a word like dari does? |
| 05:44.43 | kristal | I hope debian does not make the same mistake, short term gains over long term |
| 05:45.01 | darlinger | kristal: anyone can code :) i'd like to see more women in programming and CS but unfortunately there are only a total of 3 women in my 15 credit hours worth of classes |
| 05:45.22 | sadsagfjg | Simotek-Work: dari like |
| 05:45.32 | kristal | darlinger: In my CS class it was 50:50 and ALL THE GIRLS DROPPED :0 |
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| 05:45.39 | Simotek-Work | yeah thats what i thought |
| 05:46.00 | darlinger | kristal: that has got to be frustrating :( |
| 05:46.20 | sadsagfjg | Simotek-Work: درÙد |
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| 05:46.31 | kristal | darlinger: It got real awkward when the "diversity" lecture came, kept pointing out I shouldn't be the only one there, embarrassing |
| 05:46.45 | darlinger | kristal: what's frustrating is hearing about the pay gap and meeting so many female psychology or education majors |
| 05:46.52 | darlinger | kristal: the teacher seriously did that? |
| 05:46.55 | klys | an honest debate might include a description of the female brain, which is more sideways, and criteria for a programming language that would cater to such an understanding. |
| 05:47.10 | kristal | darlinger: pay gap in STEM is not an issue, it's more an office job thing |
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| 05:47.36 | kristal | darlinger: contract work pays the same no matter who, you do it, get paid :) |
| 05:47.55 | darlinger | kristal: oh! thanks for correcting me! wasn't aware |
| 05:48.16 | darlinger | kristal: npr was doing a spotlight on women choosing lower paying jobs |
| 05:48.42 | kristal | darlinger: it's pretty huge too, in stem it'll often be 1:1, perfect match, but in unskilled office jobs it's like 70% |
| 05:49.09 | darlinger | kristal: 70% women? |
| 05:49.15 | Simotek-Work | sadsagfjg, from a basic test from a native english speaker konsole seems to work alright with vim |
| 05:49.16 | kristal | darlinger: women getting 70% pay |
| 05:49.42 | sadsagfjg | Simotek-Work: OK |
| 05:49.49 | darlinger | kristal: yikes :( |
| 05:50.02 | darlinger | is there any way to tell debian to install the kernel elsewhere? |
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| 05:50.26 | klys | your bootloader can load the kernel anywhere it appears on your partition |
| 05:50.29 | kristal | darlinger: you can symlink it to anywhere you want... i think |
| 05:51.31 | kristal | GRUB is bigger than an entire OS from the early 90's :0 |
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| 05:52.00 | klys | grub, yes, it is the next big o.s. |
| 05:52.09 | darlinger | klys: well yes. but i don't want aptitude clobbering my other kernel >_> |
| 05:52.21 | darlinger | kristal: o.o seriously |
| 05:52.33 | darlinger | kristal: even bigger than emacs? |
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| 05:52.47 | kristal | darlinger: lol emacs, it's pretty much a userland for linux |
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| 05:53.29 | klys | if it gets tcp/ip, then we will see the packages form |
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| 05:53.55 | darlinger | i just need aptitude to automatically check for and install kernel updates somewhere else |
| 05:54.19 | darlinger | kristal: actually vim has gotten a lot bigger than emacs nowadays... |
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| 05:54.45 | klys | does vi have something like emacsclient |
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| 05:55.02 | darlinger | klys: not sure... hold on |
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| 05:55.38 | darlinger | klys: http://superuser.com/questions/132634/is-there-an-equivalent-to-emacsclient-for-vim |
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| 05:56.45 | kristal | I lost interest in vim/emacs because modern Linux desktops are so fancy... KDE, Cinnamon, LXQt... it just feels "right" using an IDE now |
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| 05:57.04 | kristal | KDevelop is pretty nice for C and C++ |
| 05:57.16 | darlinger | kristal: i feel sorry for your lack of convenient keyboard shortcuts |
| 05:57.27 | klys | you haven't changed my mind |
| 05:57.30 | kristal | darlinger: ehh there's lots of things |
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| 05:58.01 | darlinger | kristal: true. but i've always seen vim as the standard for hotkey power |
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| 05:58.25 | kristal | darlinger: you spend more time reading how to do something than actually programming so having auto complete that finds the docs is neat |
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| 05:58.51 | sadsagfjg | #vim |
| 05:59.00 | darlinger | sadsagfjg: yes yes |
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| 05:59.20 | sadsagfjg | darlinger: what? |
| 05:59.23 | darlinger | kristal: once you internalize it you internalize it |
| 05:59.34 | darlinger | sadsagfjg: i thought you were telling me to take things to #vim |
| 06:00.27 | sadsagfjg | darlinger: no |
| 06:00.35 | kristal | >implying every *nix channel isn't a vim/emacs war channel |
| 06:01.11 | klys | I'm more interested in this "cater to females" discussion |
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| 06:02.05 | darlinger | klys: cater to females? |
| 06:02.15 | kristal | how to get an IT job if you're a woman: find a company which does government contracts |
| 06:02.25 | klys | step one. find a programming language that works from side to side |
| 06:02.36 | darlinger | O.O |
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| 06:03.00 | kristal | the feds get you in trouble if you look unusually uniform |
| 06:03.22 | zebra5000 | please kick me ya fucking prick |
| 06:03.28 | kristal | our competing company got in trouble because they were only hiring Indian men |
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| 06:03.56 | darlinger | kristal: i guess they were "doing the needing" |
| 06:03.59 | kristal | I like FOSS, there's no bars to entry, everyone who's thick skinned and hop in without trouble |
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| 06:04.45 | kristal | a company is a much friendlier environment since there's no trolls... but a lot more boring |
| 06:04.48 | darlinger | can someone pop into their /boot and tell me what the naming scheme is for debian kernels? |
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| 06:05.25 | kristal | linux-image-3.xx.x-xx-generic |
| 06:06.01 | darlinger | kristal: yessssss it'll work. thanks :) |
| 06:06.29 | kristal | darlinger: distros seem to stick to the official naming scheme more these days |
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| 06:06.53 | darlinger | kristal: i use gentoo and luckily the sources stick *-gentoo at the end of everything |
| 06:07.17 | darlinger | well i mean, make does that because of gentoo sources |
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| 06:08.32 | kristal | Gentoo is pretty neat, one of the gentoo guys is an OpenRC dev |
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| 06:08.53 | kristal | Debian is a lot less work though |
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| 06:09.36 | Simotek-Work | i tried gentoo once, followed the guide and never got a X server running |
| 06:09.45 | Simotek-Work | gave up after 2 days of messing about |
| 06:09.54 | darlinger | kristal: it would make sense that someone from gentoo works on openrc |
| 06:10.00 | srsly | what's going on |
| 06:10.16 | dondelelcaro | folks, gentoo is not on topic here. |
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| 06:10.24 | darlinger | sorry |
| 06:11.30 | kristal | The channel message doesn't say if this is debian the project channel, or the distro specifically |
| 06:11.34 | srsly | what's with the anti-harrassment |
| 06:12.10 | darlinger | kristal: good point |
| 06:12.22 | dondelelcaro | this channel is for user support of people running Debian |
| 06:12.36 | dondelelcaro | things which are not Debian are not on topic here. |
| 06:12.57 | srsly | https://wiki.debian.org/AntiHarassment |
| 06:13.31 | dondelelcaro | srsly: ? |
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| 06:14.06 | kristal | srsly: Ya it's weird seeing radfem stuff under the name "AntiHarassment" |
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| 06:14.36 | srsly | yeah when did this happen? |
| 06:14.42 | srsly | and why |
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| 06:15.19 | kristal | srsly: probably just a couple nutty contributors, debian is a distro at heart |
| 06:15.27 | dondelelcaro | srsly: we've had an anti-harassment policy at Debian events for a while. If you're not clear why it's necessary, read the links there. |
| 06:15.32 | dondelelcaro | regardless, that's not really on topic here either. |
| 06:16.13 | kristal | dondelelcaro: has harassment ever been an issue in debian? never heard of it being an issue |
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| 06:16.40 | dondelelcaro | Yes. See http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/Timeline_of_incidents and search for Debian. |
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| 06:16.59 | klys | I usually don't hang out here all night, though freenode channels dont seem to be immune to regular drunks |
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| 06:19.24 | srsly | i didn't realize how sjw debian was |
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| 06:20.08 | kristal | dondelelcaro: 7 trolling incidents in the project's history, for a project this massive... that's not surprising... but http://geekfeminism.wikia.com/wiki/2004_Debian_elections that's weird |
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| 06:21.14 | kristal | "The responses frequently harped on meritocracy, " Oh no, it's the "meritocracy is misogynist" camp, some radfems think women ARE inferior to men so they can't be chosen on merit >:( |
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| 06:23.09 | justanotheruser | interesting that that just happened... |
| 06:23.33 | klys | no, it was off-topic. |
| 06:23.53 | justanotheruser | Is that why he was quieted? |
| 06:24.01 | klys | I assume so |
| 06:24.28 | v0latil3 | I previously had arch linux installed and switched to Debian. I have refind installed and have an ext4 boot. Refind starts but does not have my Debian kernel in it. Why is it not putting the kernel files in /boot? |
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| 06:24.58 | v0latil3 | I'm chrroted into my new installation now. |
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| 06:25.04 | klys | ,versions refind |
| 06:25.05 | judd | No package named 'refind' was found in i386. |
| 06:25.52 | pingfloyd | what's refind? |
| 06:25.53 | v0latil3 | Maybe its not in Debian repos but it should work |
| 06:26.00 | v0latil3 | A uefi boot menu |
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| 06:26.16 | v0latil3 | I use it instead of grub |
| 06:26.47 | pingfloyd | oh |
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| 06:27.05 | v0latil3 | I'll check with arch Linux. I can't find anything on google |
| 06:27.07 | dondelelcaro | v0latil3: the kernel is installed to /boot in Debian. If it's not there, then you might not have the right /boot mounted, or similar. |
| 06:27.21 | dondelelcaro | v0latil3: though honestly, you'll probably have better luck chainloading grub |
| 06:27.45 | pingfloyd | I just use grub |
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| 06:27.55 | dondelelcaro | or that |
| 06:27.59 | pingfloyd | it's so easy to use |
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| 06:28.04 | klys | kernel /boot/grub/core.img // load grub2 multiboot |
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| 06:28.11 | pingfloyd | and you can give it bling if you want |
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| 06:28.45 | v0latil3 | dondelelcaro: whether I have the right partition mounted or not I have a /boot. I just installed the kernel package again with apt-get and nothing new is in my /boot |
| 06:29.14 | klys | bring us versions when you're ready |
| 06:29.17 | v0latil3 | There is a vmlinuz and initrd in / though |
| 06:29.34 | v0latil3 | klys: ? |
| 06:29.44 | klys | is this an emergency? |
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| 06:29.57 | v0latil3 | No. Why? |
| 06:30.06 | dondelelcaro | v0latil3: vmlinuz is the kernel... |
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| 06:30.20 | klys | k. let us know when you have version info if it's still a problem. |
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| 06:30.35 | v0latil3 | dondelelcaro: its in my btrfs / though so refind can't see it |
| 06:31.18 | klys | iirc, /vmlinuz -> /boot/vmlinuz |
| 06:31.34 | dondelelcaro | v0latil3: is /boot mounted? is it ext4? does /boot/vmlinuz-*; exist? if no, does it exist after you run apt-get --reinstall install linux-image-someactualkernelversion? |
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| 06:34.06 | v0latil3 | Trying reinstall |
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| 06:36.04 | blacknicker | hi guys i have a question regarding understanding how to use console commands |
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| 06:36.41 | klys | usually a command will reapond if invoked with --help or --version |
| 06:36.50 | klys | s/reapond/respond/ |
| 06:37.04 | klys | use man <command> for help |
| 06:37.19 | v0latil3 | dondelelcaro: nothing :/ I renamed the vmlinuz and initrd in / too before reinstalling. It didn't put new ones in / either |
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| 06:38.14 | blacknicker | klys: i know about the man command but i can't grasp the concept of why i should be using certain tools |
| 06:38.26 | dondelelcaro | v0latil3: what is the precise command that you ran? |
| 06:38.38 | klys | blacknicker, nautilus doesnt do everything ? |
| 06:38.52 | v0latil3 | dondelelcaro: the reinstall command? |
| 06:38.54 | blacknicker | i thought nautilus was for opening windows |
| 06:38.55 | dondelelcaro | v0latil3: yes. |
| 06:39.06 | dondelelcaro | blacknicker: what's the actual question? |
| 06:39.15 | v0latil3 | Its exact same as what you said but the package is linux-image-amd64 |
| 06:39.22 | blacknicker | dondelelcaro: i don't understand why i'm running some commands from tutorials |
| 06:39.26 | klys | blacknicker, I suppose it is. nautilus is a file-manager from gnome3. |
| 06:39.29 | blacknicker | and the man pages aren't helping |
| 06:39.44 | dondelelcaro | v0latil3: well, that's the problem. It should be linux-image-somekernelversion-amd64 |
| 06:39.45 | blacknicker | i want to understand why i'm doing the commands that i'm doing |
| 06:39.59 | dondelelcaro | blacknicker: which commands are you having trouble with? |
| 06:40.06 | blacknicker | ssh add |
| 06:40.13 | blacknicker | https://help.github.com/articles/error-agent-admitted-failure-to-sign/ |
| 06:40.21 | v0latil3 | dondelelcaro: isn't that the meta package that installs the current version? |
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| 06:40.26 | dondelelcaro | v0latil3: yes. |
| 06:40.44 | v0latil3 | Why would using a specific version make a difference? |
| 06:40.46 | dondelelcaro | v0latil3: so reinstalling the meta package doesn't actually reinstall the current version. |
| 06:40.49 | v0latil3 | I will try it though |
| 06:40.57 | v0latil3 | Oh |
| 06:41.00 | v0latil3 | Ikayy |
| 06:41.03 | dondelelcaro | v0latil3: all it does is reinstall the meta package. Which is not very useful. |
| 06:41.53 | klys | blacknicker, you are dealing with a security question, and the reason is because you are the system administrator of your installation of the product you are dealing with. |
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| 06:42.15 | dondelelcaro | blacknicker: with what options? ssh-add; has a pretty complete manpage, and it's used for interacting with ssh-agent to deal with stored keys. |
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| 06:42.55 | blacknicker | klys: thank you for the answer |
| 06:43.05 | blacknicker | dondelelcaro: it does and i am terrible at reading between the lines |
| 06:43.27 | blacknicker | i don't know why i need stuff explained to me like i'm 5 all the time :*( |
| 06:44.31 | dondelelcaro | it's OK; there's a lot to learn. Some of us have been dealing with this for decades |
| 06:45.07 | v0latil3 | dondelelcaro: okay yay refind boots the kernel |
| 06:45.26 | blacknicker | dondelelcaro: i'm worried for my potential employers |
| 06:45.44 | dondelelcaro | v0latil3: so yeah, what most likely happened is you didn't have /boot actually mounted when you installed the kernel the first time. Not a big deal |
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| 06:46.22 | blacknicker | i am good at passing job interviews and i think interviews are the easiest thing ever |
| 06:46.30 | blacknicker | but i suck at delivering |
| 06:46.46 | blacknicker | i really want to do well but i don't understand a lot of things |
| 06:46.53 | dondelelcaro | more work, I guess |
| 06:47.02 | blacknicker | i hope i get hired by some company that will nurture me, but i don't think that's going to happen |
| 06:47.09 | klys | the system is managed from behind. your boss will always do risk management even if you are a sysadmin. |
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| 06:47.23 | blacknicker | klys: i am going to a programming bootcamp |
| 06:47.35 | blacknicker | and by the end of it i shall be a "jr developer" |
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| 06:47.42 | blacknicker | doing rails apps |
| 06:47.43 | klys | you should have completed your generals by now...? |
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| 06:48.09 | blacknicker | klys: my main problem is writing algorithms in ruby |
| 06:48.30 | klys | look forward to jobs behind those squid whitelist proxies |
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| 06:50.07 | klys | your main problem is covered in the data structures class from what I gather |
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| 07:03.35 | v0latil3 | Ugh |
| 07:04.28 | v0latil3 | The installer doesn't support btrfs subvolumes so I had to do the mounts and stuff myself. I must have done it wrong. When I go to install a package it wants me to mount the installation media |
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| 07:05.52 | klys | reconfigure apt |
| 07:06.04 | klys | you can do it if you start dselect |
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| 07:07.23 | v0latil3 | Also systemd-logind failed to start |
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| 07:10.29 | v0latil3 | Klys |
| 07:10.33 | v0latil3 | klys: thanks |
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| 07:10.46 | v0latil3 | dslect worked |
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| 07:11.21 | klys | I think of dselect as the long-honored interface to debian that made it a product |
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| 07:12.19 | v0latil3 | klys: since lots of those packages didn't get install or things didn't get configured how do I install Xfce and whatever I would have gotten from a normal install |
| 07:12.26 | v0latil3 | Is there a single package that includes all of them? |
| 07:12.41 | klys | tasksel |
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| 07:13.07 | somiaj | !tell v0latil3 about install xfce |
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| 07:13.23 | somiaj | I belive there is a metapackage xfce4 you can install (or a tasksel package but I us meta packages) |
| 07:14.05 | v0latil3 | somiaj: thanks |
| 07:14.13 | klys | !tell me about bot |
| 07:14.27 | v0latil3 | Also I only have 1 tty. Should I just redo this install |
| 07:14.33 | somiaj | klys: /msg dpkg factoid |
| 07:14.39 | klys | np |
| 07:15.00 | somiaj | v0latil3: what do you mean? You can't hit ctrl-alt-f1 (though f6) to change ttys? That is odd unless you modified things |
| 07:15.08 | somiaj | v0latil3: are you running testing with systemd? |
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| 07:15.36 | v0latil3 | somiaj: I can switch but the other ones just have the blinking cursor in the top left |
| 07:15.44 | v0latil3 | I am running testing |
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| 07:16.07 | klys | well, what does systemd do to the linux virtual terminal interface? |
| 07:16.44 | klys | I'm thinking it's time to ask about it since it's in jessie defaults |
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| 07:17.15 | v0latil3 | klys: I thinks its because logind service failed to start |
| 07:17.20 | v0latil3 | I'm googling now |
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| 07:19.26 | v0latil3 | This is stupid I'm reinstalling |
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| 07:20.29 | v0latil3 | (â¯Â°â¡Â°ï¼â¯ï¸µ â»ââ» |
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| 07:21.11 | donttrustem | guys what is the numeric value for drwxrwx |
| 07:21.19 | klys | 770 |
| 07:21.30 | donttrustem | 0770 |
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| 07:21.40 | v0latil3 | That was fast |
| 07:22.13 | donttrustem | thanks |
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| 07:26.36 | v0latil3 | Is there any reason to not have my home var and usr subvols as children of the root subvol as opposed to being in the subvol 0 along with root? |
| 07:27.45 | v0latil3 | But having them as children mounting would be easier. But I don't know if there's any reason not to do it that way |
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| 07:29.59 | v0latil3 | Btrfs samurais? |
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| 07:33.04 | v0latil3 | Hmm you can't delete the parent without deleting children |
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| 07:40.16 | v0latil3 | Okay! I'm in the testing installer. I'm at the partition step. I switched to a vt and manually partitioned an mounted my filesystems on /target. Now what do I do to not screw up this install? |
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| 07:42.22 | v0latil3 | Pls 2 halp. I am not good at computr. Go way mr skeltal |
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| 07:42.35 | klys | make sure you end it with a solid dselect session |
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| 07:46.21 | v0latil3 | klys: how do I continue in the install GUI menu? |
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| 07:47.30 | klys | well, the gui should give you an option to to dselect-related stuff with synaptic |
| 07:47.45 | klys | it's interchangeable. |
| 07:47.49 | monkies | So, I have been trying to use Tor within Debian Wheezy, but it doesn't seem like it can connect. It will get stuck part way and stop. Internet connection is fine and I can use the regular web browser without issues. Also, Tor works flawlessly on Windows for me. Ideas? |
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| 07:48.35 | klys | monkies, does anything coincide with the stuckness you are experiencing |
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| 07:50.37 | monkies | Not really. I've tried it several different ways - through a VPN and without, through Whonix and on the host, etc. - I get the same issue regardless. |
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| 07:51.04 | klys | do you have ping running |
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| 07:53.42 | monkies | I haven't manually ran anything extra - just a basic offline DVD install + the firmware for my WiFi (which works fine) and now I'm just trying to get Tor to work. |
| 07:53.48 | monkies | Fairly new |
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| 07:58.41 | unss7 | hi |
| 07:58.55 | unss7 | SPDIF isn't working after a recent update |
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| 08:00.39 | klys | unss7, you may have to ask in #linux. diff -Naur /boot/config-old-kernel /boot/config-new-kernel |
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| 08:02.12 | unss7 | Since it's a debian machine I thought it's Debian specific |
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| 08:56.07 | linuxator | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:57.44 | armin | linuxator: o.O |
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| 08:58.56 | linuxator | armin, means what? |
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| 09:21.11 | Sayona | Hi, i have problem with my debian. I open the monitor and i connot see anything ( black screen ) only if i shutdown the computer and power on again.. work, how i see what happend? |
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| 09:22.07 | GuidovanPossum | I have that happen if I dim my screen and then it gets password locked |
| 09:22.47 | GuidovanPossum | so I have to enter it in the dark type enter then turn the brightness back up, just an idea |
| 09:24.00 | Sayona | no, i remove that, not block screen |
| 09:25.21 | Sayona | and I use VNC to connect the desktop when I am away ( and connection was refusez ) . whem o shutdown the computer the text ( text displayed when you shutdown the computer ) was showed like arabian |
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| 09:28.15 | pavlix | hi folks |
| 09:28.32 | pavlix | how's the current status of /run versus /var/run in Debian? |
| 09:29.00 | pavlix | as a contributor to upstream software I would like to keep compatibility and I'm not sure how it works out there |
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| 09:59.47 | obsed | how come all the resignations? |
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| 10:34.20 | mar77i | urgh |
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| 10:35.11 | mar77i | hello #debian. I'm sorry to bother you but this particular issue I don't appear to be up to. |
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| 10:38.51 | mar77i | I set up a booting usb stick (the hardware where I plug it *should* boot that) and it just doesn't show up on the ip I set it. |
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| 10:39.56 | vlt | mar77i: Cleaned your udev rules for NIC? |
| 10:40.06 | mar77i | nic? |
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| 10:41.53 | vlt | mar77i: Network device. |
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| 10:42.40 | mar77i | that boot system is a wheezy readily made that I downloaded. I set the static ip on eth0-eth3 in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 10:43.11 | vlt | mar77i: Usually there's a file for network devices in /etc/udev/rules.d/ that assigns eth0 and so forth for devices based on their MAC address. |
| 10:43.25 | vlt | mar77i: Maybe your system runs on eth1. |
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| 10:43.47 | vlt | mar77i: Just remove or empty that file. |
| 10:44.29 | mar77i | well the memory stick now has interfaces for eth0, eth1, eth2 and eth3 |
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| 10:44.48 | mar77i | but I'll look at the udev rules as advised. thanks. |
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| 10:45.31 | daskjdas | hi, how to change hosntame xxxx, then when i restart to fit still there? |
| 10:45.42 | daskjdas | with only command |
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| 10:46.10 | vlt | daskjdas: echo newhostname > /etc/hostname |
| 10:46.28 | daskjdas | vlt, thank you alot |
| 10:46.48 | mar77i | vlt: http://sprunge.us/dMha vs. http://sprunge.us/LBKO |
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| 10:47.03 | mar77i | oh. |
| 10:47.08 | mar77i | both empty? |
| 10:48.16 | mar77i | http://sprunge.us/KeLi vs. http://sprunge.us/efcC |
| 10:48.39 | mar77i | I feel silly |
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| 10:50.06 | vlt | mar77i: I'd remove all devices from udev rules and just leave eth0 in interfaces. |
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| 10:55.25 | mar77i | I could remove the KERNEL== filter just to be sure |
| 10:55.37 | mar77i | ah |
| 10:56.08 | mar77i | dump the whole thing, you mean. even better. hmm, will prefixing the file name with a backslash do? |
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| 10:56.57 | mar77i | ah, postfixing with... did I type backslash there? I meant underscore. |
| 10:57.35 | osram | mar77i: just delete the file. Udev will create it on boot |
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| 10:58.25 | mar77i | I still don't KNOW if this thing even boots, that's the thing |
| 10:58.50 | osram | mar77i: so try that first. Tweak stuff later. |
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| 10:59.13 | mar77i | so. it's "booting", maybe. |
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| 10:59.52 | mar77i | unreachable... |
| 11:00.27 | osram | Now debug. |
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| 11:00.32 | osram | ip link |
| 11:00.33 | osram | ip addr |
| 11:00.36 | osram | etc... |
| 11:00.40 | mar77i | there's no screen on that thing |
| 11:01.00 | mar77i | nothing |
| 11:01.02 | osram | Ugh. I see your predicament. |
| 11:01.24 | d3lphi | hey all. I have a new disk, formatted with mkfs.ext4 and used -m 0 to have no reserved blocks. I also tried "tune2fs -m 0 /dev/mydev" and "tune2fs -r 0 /dev/mydev" but when I mount that disk to /some/dir command "df -h" still is showing that 1% is used. WHY ? |
| 11:01.27 | mar77i | okay. ip not available. |
| 11:01.46 | osram | mar77i: it may not even boot to the point where networking becomes available. |
| 11:02.00 | mar77i | yup. I'll check the logs next. |
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| 11:03.59 | osram | d3lphi: what does tune2fs -l /dev/xxx show under "Reserved block count"? |
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| 11:04.42 | mar77i | last entry in syslog is 05:27:03 EST |
| 11:05.01 | osram | mar77i: what is the last entry in syslog? |
| 11:05.14 | osram | mar77i: other than the time, I mean. |
| 11:05.52 | mar77i | Nov 20 05:27:02 alix init: Switching to runlevel: 0 // Nov 20 05:27:03 alix acpid: exiting // bad news, I figure |
| 11:06.16 | mar77i | because I plugged that thing out the hard way from the place where it *shouldve* booted |
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| 11:06.57 | osram | Yeah, doesn't sound like it gets anywhere near networking. |
| 11:07.02 | mar77i | 11:59 < mar77i> unreachable... << that was 6:00 est |
| 11:07.11 | mar77i | according to TZ=EST date |
| 11:07.41 | mar77i | osram: that doesn't sound like it gets near logging stuff to syslog |
| 11:07.54 | mar77i | funny thing tho as it boots on the desktop fine |
| 11:08.24 | osram | mar77i: switching to runlevel 0 usually happens when shutting down. |
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| 11:08.43 | osram | mar77i: I think you need a console :) |
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| 11:09.32 | mar77i | I don't have one. |
| 11:09.40 | osram | :( |
| 11:09.55 | mar77i | doesn't boot |
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| 11:10.52 | mar77i | I plugged it in on the other usb port, I thought that might be related |
| 11:11.05 | mar77i | okay. different plan |
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| 11:13.38 | mar77i | gonna try with the sd card. maybe that thing will boot. |
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| 11:15.19 | nabblet | hi, I botched an debian install (debian testing to be precise). There were several partitions preinstalled (EFI, Win8, Lenovo Recovery, one more NTFS partition). I shrinked the Win8 partition and installed debian testing. /boot/efi is mounted to the EFI partition. Grub installed to /dev/sda. Boot is UEFI. I'd like to be able to boot Win8 again. |
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| 11:18.11 | nabblet | Aha! Windows boot is working if I pick the startup device to be my ssd. I think I just misunderstood some concepts of UEFI. Guess I have to re-read again. Sorry for the noise :) |
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| 11:18.42 | osram | nabblet: no worries, glad we could help :P |
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| 11:20.06 | blacknicker | why is debian a nice operating system? |
| 11:20.31 | jelly-home | !tell blacknicker about why debian |
| 11:20.56 | osram | blacknicker: Why can't we go FTL? |
| 11:21.03 | nabblet | !tell nabblet about why debian |
| 11:21.33 | jelly-home | nabblet: you can also ask the bot stuff in private, /msg dpkg why debian |
| 11:21.55 | nabblet | jelly-home: thanks for the hint |
| 11:22.17 | blacknicker | whoever made that bot thank you |
| 11:22.30 | blacknicker | you're a genius and i hope some day i can be as cool as you |
| 11:22.48 | blacknicker | also thank you jelly-home |
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| 11:23.23 | nabblet | blacknicker: my bet is that there were more than one person involved. Are you new to Debian (or Linux)? |
| 11:24.28 | blacknicker | yeah and i'm also stupid nabblet |
| 11:24.37 | blacknicker | i don't know how i managed to install it |
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| 11:25.55 | DebGuest | Hey |
| 11:26.44 | d3lphi | osram: yes, tune2fs -l /dev/mydev shows 0 reserved |
| 11:27.12 | DebGuest | Just a question maybe someone can help me :) Im a bit confused im a beginner and want to dive a bit deeper to linux , but what i dont understand is this freeze :( Does it mean i cant update software in this time in debian ? or is it just harder? |
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| 11:28.47 | osram | d3lphi: so I can only speculate that df may show >0 because of superblocks, inode tables, fs journals, and other file system internal paraphernalia. |
| 11:29.56 | jelly-home | osram, d3lphi: that would be correct |
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| 11:36.54 | colo-work | hm, "calendarserver" is not in jessie? :( |
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| 11:41.16 | petn-randall | ,v calendarserver |
| 11:41.17 | judd | Package: calendarserver on i386 -- squeeze: 2.4.dfsg-6; wheezy: 3.2+dfsg-4+deb7u1; sid: 5.2.2+dfsg-2 |
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| 11:41.26 | petn-randall | colo-work: ^^^ |
| 11:43.29 | brontosaurusrex | any thing that I could use to kill traces off being on the system, like term history, iceweasel history, ect |
| 11:43.35 | brontosaurusrex | making a custom vm |
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| 11:44.34 | SOUL_OF_R00T | nice morning great guys :) |
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| 11:47.05 | colo-work | petn-randall, thanks, I checked that on packages.d.o - that does mean that if there's no execptional miracle-like thing happening, the package won't make it into jessie, right? |
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| 11:49.48 | nabblet | DebGuest: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debian#Distributions There is debian testing. At some point of time, devs are not allowed to add new features to debian testing. That's called (feature) freeze. They are only allowed to stabilize (=squash bugs) until debian testing becomes debian stable. |
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| 11:51.12 | DebGuest | nabblet: but i would be able to "make/compile" it myself if there are updates aviable? |
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| 11:52.11 | nabblet | DebGuest: in general debian is a binary distribution, so software is precompiled for you (unless you manually install software). |
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| 11:52.29 | DebGuest | nabblet: ok thank you :) |
| 11:53.21 | osram | colo-work: seeing as jessie is frozen, I'd say you're on the money |
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| 11:53.40 | nabblet | DebGuest: Also, debian stable still get's updates. But those updates are usually security fixes and major bugs. If you want updates in a sense of "I want new features, the lastest versions of firefox, libre office and so on" then consider using debian testing. |
| 11:53.53 | nabblet | DebGuest: but be warned - it's called debian testing for a reason ;) |
| 11:54.41 | DebGuest | nabblet: atm i "use" arch so i think debian testing would be still the safer option or? |
| 11:54.43 | colo-work | osram, I was afraid so. darn! |
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| 11:54.47 | Lugal | hi |
| 11:55.10 | Lugal | is there any file in Debian, where all IP adresses are logged that my PC wasa connected to? |
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| 11:56.08 | wols_ | no |
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| 11:56.21 | nabblet | DebGuest: if you have some experience with arch (and you roughly know what you are doing) I think debian testing is a sound choice for your. What do you hope to find in debian stabel/testing that you miss in arch? |
| 11:56.32 | tlund | Lugal: /var/log/daemon.log might contain this information - if some daemon, like ntpd is running, and logging to it. |
| 11:56.37 | wols_ | many daemons log IPs in /var/log: samba, ssh, etc. |
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| 11:58.36 | nabblet | DebGuest: or otherway round, why did you say quote "use"? |
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| 11:59.17 | mar77i | </lunch>booting from sd card. |
| 11:59.28 | mar77i | or, expecting to. :) |
| 11:59.52 | DebGuest | nabblet: i readed a bit about them and the "summary" for me was : arch is a lot harder and if it breaks i have a big problem as noob , also the "apt" system sounds more interesting |
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| 12:00.04 | d3lphi | osram: superblocks, inode tables, fs journals ?? hmm... can I get rid of that ... I cannot understand why my 2TB disk is occupied with 1% (as shown by df -h) |
| 12:00.04 | DebGuest | but maybe i have big misunderstandiings here |
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| 12:04.17 | nabblet | DebGuest: Here is my suggestion. Try debian stable. It is well tested and you can get your linux experience w/o being afraid of making huge mistakes. The price you have to pay is that the software will always lag behind a bit (in versions) but it will work reliably. Debian testing is the test-bed of debian stable. Personally, i think it is ok to use it for desktop because testing is still quite "stable". Arch compared to both of them is bleeding edge, |
| 12:04.43 | Sayona | Hi, can anyone help me: I use apache as web and i need the group to be : drwxr-xr-x 2 www-data www-data , but i have -rw------- 1 root www-data ... |
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| 12:05.16 | mar77i | DebGuest: on arch, if it's broken you can assume it was only you who broke it. on debian the system doesn't try to be broken on its own... which sounds strange, but that's what it is to me. |
| 12:05.27 | nabblet | DebGuest: Personally, i use debian stable for my main machine, and debian testing and linux mint debian edition (it is based on debian testing!) on my second computer/laptop. |
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| 12:05.57 | DebGuest | mar77i: yeah sounds a bit strange ^ |
| 12:06.17 | tekzilla | quick question about the live ISOs: does the rescue ISO have any additional packages compared to the full live ISOs or just no GUI etc. |
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| 12:08.09 | osram | d3lphi: sure you can. |
| 12:08.19 | osram | d3lphi: though I doubt very much you want to |
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| 12:09.07 | nabblet | DebGuest: what made you start with arch? |
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| 12:09.12 | osram | d3lphi: these structures are needed to provide the filesystem services you're used to when mounting a partition and putting files there. |
| 12:09.46 | DebGuest | nabblet: google ^^ the "bleeding edge" soundede good but im even dont know if i need it |
| 12:09.50 | tekzilla | Sayona: chmod -R g+rx yourdir gives read/execute to the www-data group |
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| 12:12.00 | nabblet | DebGuest: Sounds familiar :D I made my first linux-steps with gentoo (<- big mistake!), the switched to mandrake, suse, debian stable, ubuntu, debian stable and now pretty much debian testing with keen interest in gentoo :P |
| 12:13.03 | DebGuest | nabblet: oh okay O: ok so gentoo was the only one i was/be super sure i dont even need to think about |
| 12:13.35 | nabblet | DebGuest: a "friends" recommended gentoo to me when I asked about linux... but sure if he was trolling :P |
| 12:13.55 | DebGuest | nabblet: oh just 1 question remains |
| 12:14.51 | nabblet | ? |
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| 12:15.12 | DebGuest | nabblet: i read about these systemd and sysinit thing which one should i learn cause i dont understanded if debian is gonna use it or not |
| 12:15.21 | CissWit | you learn a lot more using Gentoo than with most other distrib. It may be a good choice to start |
| 12:15.38 | CissWit | DebGuest: debian is switching to systemd yes |
| 12:16.34 | DebGuest | ah okay |
| 12:16.34 | nabblet | CissWit: it's true, gentoo teaches a lot. But for that you need already lots of linux experience, otherwise it will be very frustrating. Gentoo is not an entry-distro. |
| 12:16.39 | DebGuest | thx |
| 12:17.27 | nabblet | DebGuest: if you are a beginner, don't worry about systemd or any other init system too much. It like trying to learn integrals before adding. |
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| 12:18.17 | tekzilla | agree with nablet, until you dont need to figure out why something is broken, just let systemd do its thing.. |
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| 12:21.49 | petn-randall | CissWit: Is it so? Why? |
| 12:22.09 | petn-randall | CissWit: See also http://fun.irq.dk/funroll-loops.org/ |
| 12:22.33 | jelly-home | petn-randall: old inaccurate bad joke is old |
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| 12:27.48 | NiLon | 64 kb should be enough for everyone |
| 12:27.59 | mar77i | I don't get it. I don't get it. |
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| 12:35.08 | nabblet | A question about the general concept of UEFI booting: As I understand it now, the UEFI boot manager is active before any other OS bootmanager (may it be windows, or linux). So trying to get windows boot into grub is a somewhat redundant thing to do, because i can start the windows loader from UEFI (that before GRUB gets to start at all). Correct? |
| 12:35.40 | nabblet | * that starts before GRUB... |
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| 12:39.21 | mar77i | urm |
| 12:39.40 | DebGuest | tekzilla: CissWit nabblet Thanks for your great help :) ! unfortenatly i still cant decide but maybe it comes with time |
| 12:40.56 | mar77i | I'm overburdened. |
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| 12:44.52 | nabblet | DebGuest: You can install them side by side too :) Next decision to make is what GUI you want, good luck with that one :P |
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| 12:47.16 | DebGuest | nabblet: nope not hard :D even if its hard and i use it only since 3- 4 hours im pretty sure i want to use awesome or i3 |
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| 12:48.31 | DebGuest | nabblet: funny thing i thought i absolutely want kde and used it a bit tried a lot of others but tried out awesome and just fallen in love |
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| 12:48.46 | nabblet | DebGuest: tried fluxbox? |
| 12:49.01 | DebGuest | nabblet: no should i ? |
| 12:49.27 | tytan | I have a blank Debian installation. What should I do to install lxde? "apt-get install task-lxde-desktop" ? |
| 12:49.35 | nabblet | DebGuest: YESSSS! :D Disclaimer: That's what I do :P |
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| 12:49.45 | mar77i | if you like clean source code: no. if you like a usuable and minimal desktop, fluxbox is what you're looking for |
| 12:49.46 | nabblet | s/do/have |
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| 12:50.06 | DebGuest | okay |
| 12:50.17 | DebGuest | is it even more minimal then i3 or awesome? |
| 12:51.15 | nabblet | DebGuest: fluxbox, like i3 and awesome is a window manager. All of them are pretty minimal. The main difference is, that fluxbox is NOT tiling. So you have windows you can move around and resize like you're use to in most desktop environments. |
| 12:51.16 | DebGuest | brb rebooting |
| 12:51.29 | tytan | or better "apt-get install lxde"? |
| 12:51.29 | DebGuest | oh ok |
| 12:51.48 | DebGuest | lxde is very nice :) but i like the tilling thing |
| 12:51.57 | nabblet | DebGuest: also i use kupfer. It is a very minimal application kicker and saves me a lot of time every day. |
| 12:52.16 | nabblet | DebGuest: if you like tiling then fluxbox is not for you. |
| 12:52.30 | tytan | DebGuest Yeah. But whats the difference between "apt-get install lxde" and "apt-get install task-lxde-desktop"? |
| 12:53.19 | DebGuest | im a noob sry ^^ |
| 12:53.26 | DebGuest | but shouldnt it be the same? |
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| 12:53.59 | tytan | That's the question. Can anybody tell me, please? |
| 12:54.17 | sydney | .part |
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| 12:54.25 | nabblet | tytan: try "apt-cache show lxde" and "apt-cache show task-lcde-desktop" That will give you details. |
| 12:54.33 | ksk | tytan: do an "aptitude show lxde" .. yes |
| 12:54.49 | ksk | see the package descriptions |
| 12:54.50 | tytan | I just want a full desktop environment :P |
| 12:55.00 | tytan | but I'll do so |
| 12:55.55 | DebGuest | if i understand the wiki right task desktop should install the xorg server too |
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| 12:57.32 | nabblet | DebGuest: tytan the main difference (after reading apt-cache on both) is that "task-lxde-desktop" depends on "lxde". That means: task-lxde-desktop = lxde + some more software |
| 12:58.15 | tytan | Most tutorials say "apt-get install lxde" should be fine. What do you mean by "some more software"? |
| 12:58.26 | tytan | dpkg lxde |
| 12:58.26 | dpkg | The Lightweight X11 Desktop Environment (LXDE) is available since Debian 5.0 "Lenny". To install, ask me about <install lxde>. http://wiki.lxde.org/en/LXDE:Questions http://www.lxde.org/ #lxde on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 12:58.47 | tytan | dpkg install lxde |
| 12:58.47 | dpkg | To install <LXDE> on established systems, ask me about <install x>, then: «aptitude install lxde». To install using Debian-Installer (if not using LXDE CD-1): from the Installer boot menu, select "Advanced options > Alternative desktop environments > LXDE > Install". |
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| 13:00.40 | nabblet | tytan: if you install task-desktop-lxde for example your welcome screen will also be in LXDE style. |
| 13:01.11 | nabblet | tytan: the welcome screen is where you select the GUI for your session and enter the password |
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| 13:02.10 | tytan | I have a Pentium 4 with 512MB RAM. Would recommend not using task-lxde-desktop? |
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| 13:02.47 | nabblet | tytan: what will you use the computer for? |
| 13:03.10 | tytan | E-Mail, MP3, Office and IRC |
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| 13:04.02 | DebGuest | should work good |
| 13:04.20 | DebGuest | i had something similiar some time ago and it worked perfectly |
| 13:04.23 | ticho_ | updated wheezy to use backported kernel 3.16-0.bpo.3-amd64, running in virtual box, somehow it does not want to mount host system anymore (defined in /etc/rc.local), any clues? |
| 13:04.34 | tytan | Would tasl-lxde-desktop install codecs? |
| 13:04.49 | nabblet | tytan: use task-lxde-desktop. I don't think it will make too much difference perfomancewise. If it is still too slow, you need to fall back to a window manager |
| 13:05.00 | nabblet | tytan: codecs are not related to desktop environments. |
| 13:05.26 | Brigo | tytan, task-lxde-desktop should install more packages. You can do apt-cache show lxde and apt-cache show task-lxde-desktop and compare dependencies. |
| 13:05.31 | tytan | nabblet Ok, how do I get codecs? Is there a package containing most codecs? |
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| 13:06.07 | nabblet | tytan: there is a good site about that from debian. Maybe some1 (or bot?) can through you the link? |
| 13:06.17 | nabblet | *throw |
| 13:06.23 | tytan | dpkg codec |
| 13:06.23 | dpkg | A codec (portmanteau of "compressor-decompressor") is a program or device used to encode/decode a data stream or signal. Ask me about <libavcodec>, <w32codecs>. |
| 13:06.39 | nabblet | there you go :) |
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| 13:07.47 | petn-randall | ticho_: Yeah, the actual error message doing the mount would help. |
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| 13:08.32 | petn-randall | tytan: Codecs for what? If you explain what you want to achieve, we might be able to come up with a solution. |
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| 13:09.15 | tytan | Would be nice to plug in a thumb drive and be able to listen to a mp3 file or watch a mp4 video. Or play a CD. |
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| 13:10.22 | brontosaurusrex | Brigo: what do you want to do? |
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| 13:10.37 | critias | About computer/server names: I have a 192.168 net with a few linux machines. each has a hostname, an Apache server name, a ProFTPD server name, a Samba name maybe. Must they be all the same on one machine? |
| 13:10.58 | tytan | Damn. another problem. apt-get seems to refer to binary cd but a network mirror :( |
| 13:11.27 | brontosaurusrex | tytan: vlc file.mp3 or mp4 |
| 13:11.37 | petn-randall | tytan: Just install VLC, that should cover pretty much all cases. |
| 13:11.55 | Brigo | brontosaurusrex, sorry? |
| 13:12.06 | petn-randall | tytan: There is a "not" missing in your sentence. Do you want to install from CD, or from the internet? |
| 13:12.10 | bezaban | critias: they must not no :) |
| 13:12.28 | bezaban | critias: but it may be helpful for your own sanity |
| 13:12.59 | brontosaurusrex | Brigo: what codec do you think you need? |
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| 13:13.18 | critias | OK |
| 13:13.20 | Brigo | brontosaurusrex, i do not ask for codec. :) |
| 13:13.33 | brontosaurusrex | ok, then iam lost |
| 13:13.34 | tytan | I just editet the /etc/apt/sources.list. now it works :) |
| 13:13.49 | Brigo | brontosaurusrex, i should be. :) |
| 13:13.52 | brontosaurusrex | oh, i meant tytan , sorry |
| 13:13.56 | tytan | brontosaurusrex I don't think about what I need. It's just prevention :) |
| 13:13.59 | Brigo | brontosaurusrex, np :) |
| 13:14.25 | tytan | But installing VLC isn't a bad idea anyway! |
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| 13:16.33 | DebGuest | vlc on 512 mb ram O: |
| 13:16.47 | tytan | DebGuest problem? :( |
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| 13:17.04 | Cpuroast | I'd go mpv, but that's me :) |
| 13:17.31 | brontosaurusrex | mpv is absolute coolnes of course. |
| 13:17.33 | DebGuest | probably not i just now how hungry it is under win maybe its lightweigth under linux |
| 13:18.03 | brontosaurusrex | DebGuest: compile your mpv |
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| 13:19.19 | DebGuest | brontosaurusrex: oh this sounds awesome thx have to try it out |
| 13:19.36 | DebGuest | as its based on mplayer i think its lightweigth or? |
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| 13:21.32 | ppuNnLmgy | NIKO: HEY FUCKFACE WE'RE NOT DONE YET calistoâNGC3982âmacrobatâPontusâBlastHardcheeseânullyâtoxboiâfinlstrm_âterr1âphatypusâL0aD1nGâhgebonerâelmargolâjtrucksâbrx_âkrupsâezhiâshingouzâElite_HassoonâvaleriusNâHexxisâs00pcanâmngrifânice92âanikrasâl3lu3âSbrokerânjs`âSpleezeânopfâSu7_âHaswellâparanoidsâTrafficManâJohnnyricoMC_âyuastnav_âb0ltâongolaBoyâfredizâMoggetâPhil-Workâ |
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| 13:21.41 | Cpuroast | on linux and OSX mpv is the best playback solution |
| 13:21.43 | tytan | ಠ_ಠ|
| 13:21.43 | vApUzcmo | NIKO: HEY FUCKFACE WE'RE NOT DONE YET skwlkr__â
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| 13:21.43 | vApUzcmo | NIKO: HEY FUCKFACE WE'RE NOT DONE YET kinabaluâpaulwaâDasielâl3dxâCeBe2âhaasnâdsilvaâTheNumbersânikolahâeshyâbrokencycleâkyle__âLordDeathâslacknerâmartinesâjayneâsmyersâb0ltâserbanâafx237âfdb713âampleyflyânsfwâhrvojeâDixi___âluminousâCydroboltâPiggyâFreeBNCsâinstenceâObi-WanâklysâGNU\colossusâjargonâJarusâYonderingâognyâliftât4nkârjsaltsâskiâBryansteinâCavedudeâd3Vitoâd |
| 13:21.43 | vApUzcmo | NIKO: HEY FUCKFACE WE'RE NOT DONE YET daswort p-trust hourd funtapaz Marvil Vasco87 MikZyth catia Chris7mas danlamanna arcsky nedhl Scall JimmyGulp L0aD1nG c0urier jalalsfs _krux raidghost xingu noexcept ledestin Ooze Guest83680 bjelleklang ag4ve FloTiX apt Afterster CissWit phunyguy UukGoblin JohnDoh himikof Guest32601___ verri av0idz tattoli Voyager_MP mt ilken RickyB98 koptein k1ng grim4593 Scar3cr0w Lady_Aleena brontosaurusrex APexil AlvinLorus kevr Za |
| 13:21.43 | vApUzcmo | NIKO: HEY FUCKFACE WE'RE NOT DONE YET ypcsâdefarge_âChexâEastsideRâkunwon1âPython132Oâquattr0âMrAlexanBâteeteewhyâtakeyourhatoffâHeavyMetalâAl3xG0âsveva65âSmuckerzâKobazâillyâNiLonâmarkovhâjabbsladâMcLiveâfulgoreâarmistaceâdazoeâ_FBiâoddieâdrawksâhramrach_âWalexârevcaneâatannusâfuqiâMoDaXâCarlGelâChanServâyuastnav_âCueballâcRaNnKâprellerâChoiKyuSangâespeedâEmmanuel_ChanelâObr |
| 13:21.45 | tytan | ಠ_ಠ|
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| 13:21.58 | quattr0 | i want to do âtail -f access.logâ and stop tailing the file after 1 minute. how would i do this? |
| 13:22.03 | Cpuroast | on windows, I'd be more inclined to use MPC-HC with CCCP |
| 13:22.05 | Cpuroast | than mpc |
| 13:22.05 | ndmAzIf | NIKO: HEY FUCKFACE WE'RE NOT DONE YET gnugrâ
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| 13:22.05 | ndmAzIf | NIKO: HEY FUCKFACE WE'RE NOT DONE YET bkrvnâalexbligh1âtinocoâ_br_âabrotmanâsharkyâriotâalechâRoyKâowaâAJ_Z0ânanoha-samaâariscopâraboofâtheshadowâ`arielâSynrGyâIgneousâruukasuâserbanâWormFoodâbchamberlainâbrongâfutureperfectâDalekSecâAd1âObi-WanâghotiâNuxRoâspatialsâtroeteâGunniânikoâcafuegoâkwksilverâhimikofâHaswellâPsy-Q_âryan-câDamioxâdeanrockâsomiajâHexxisâdaniel-sâswo |
| 13:22.05 | ndmAzIf | NIKO: HEY FUCKFACE WE'RE NOT DONE YET haasn testi diginet velleity ItTakesTwo fling Shadow` XSoul neersighted Prezident anry misprint tyler-baker shad0VV Celelibi feisar__ mawe sosby MVXA rOss^64 doge hacfi_ guardian TonyL sc_ euphoria totte internat petern_ Solution-X|AFK mf|rdp redeemed n13z Alex|AFK adellam xrickx gebba rippentrop_ LordDeath kimbo ByT3b0N3 yano d3Vito Arroyo1010 raxo rysiek|pl ToughNode crane ArchDuke Meistarin TwoWholeWorms Zyferus p0g0 r |
| 13:22.06 | ndmAzIf | NIKO: HEY FUCKFACE WE'RE NOT DONE YET msantanaâanckyâsveva65âkuchatekâFilipeMaiaâCeBe2âphragmentâmontyâDav|dâhalothe23âhramrach_âAlvinLorusâvaleriusNâbin_bashâcorepb_ârturâsidmo_âkarimbâXeâCarlGelâbenfâcatiaâamatechaâparallel21âTabmowâtharkunâelkmooseâ|whiteâGuest32601___âAntiSpamMetaâvinciâdrawksâkirklandâazizLIGHTâSPF|CloudâSleepy63âKBmeâMikZythâxiqy_âDefaulttiâSomeguy123ânigh |
| 13:22.06 | ndmAzIf | NIKO: HEY FUCKFACE WE'RE NOT DONE YET rudi_sâzorroleroâjholdenâjalalsfsân0archâBartlebyâJZTech101âobsedâkiniâschlitzerâasakura1âSavemechâNChiefâwangâMoonspellâulkeshâNyoomâkmeyâinfinitumâhoarycrippleâXpressâkbtrâkushal2âjusafingâbrian-macâklineâtobiasBoraâosramâMeltedLuxâRurd2diânickdastainâFusselkaterânirelâScyteâna1rbâAngelDeathâSuperdawgâVeggieMeatâchbâsabunâixâcbdevâmynisâ |
| 13:22.07 | tytan | ಠ_ಠ|
| 13:22.08 | Cpuroast | mpv |
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| 13:22.11 | xavRkqOXc | NIKO: HEY FUCKFACE WE'RE NOT DONE YET Yongâjesse55âjoeytwiddleâfireba11âScar3cr0wârjsaltsâavshalomâav0idzâamatechaâmaxexclooâWizardGedâJdbyeâShadow_7âdanlamannaâvol4koâaboudreaultâMac101âroger_rabbitâdsilvaâJyZyXELâvaldynâLordDeathâxandâesaym153âSmuckerzâpeterrooneyâmattcenânrdbâblarghlarghlâraxoâtattoliâkarakediâyouelletâbatataâjahmanâroentgenâElisionâbastidra |
| 13:22.11 | xavRkqOXc | NIKO: HEY FUCKFACE WE'RE NOT DONE YET andatche chb SPF|Cloud diytto TheOne1 mbainrot P77CAAUFY pavlix ylooc yan blindsight kanzure sdfr brouette feisar MrGeneral kuchatek nkuttler metala blip2 rypervenche lasers XemsDoom AnimalFarmPig GhostInTheShell sharky xrickx bl4ckdu5t mavhc yuastnav_ fulgore maik edsoncanto kInOzAwA architekt perrier Eadaro daveX7 t4nk761 necrogami Vutral Loshki Blok rogst futex harrison AlephBeth smv _cyclops_ |
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| 13:22.22 | Siebjee | quasisane, tail -f <logfile> & sleep 60; pkill tail |
| 13:22.25 | tytan | ಠ_ಠ|
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| 13:22.36 | Siebjee | quattr0, , tail -f <logfile> & sleep 60; pkill tail |
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| 13:22.37 | anonnumberanon | haha |
| 13:22.42 | Ad1 | wtf |
| 13:22.43 | anonnumberanon | someone needs attention |
| 13:22.46 | CME | wth |
| 13:22.47 | brianblaze420 | wtf indeed |
| 13:22.50 | Ad1 | kick that guy |
| 13:22.51 | Jonuz | poor kid |
| 13:22.51 | Devastator | !ops |
| 13:22.51 | EdePopede | !ops they kept the gates open again :( |
| 13:22.51 | dpkg | Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. Operators can also be contacted in the #debian-ops channel. |
| 13:22.56 | tytan | can someone please ban them? |
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| 13:22.57 | AnimalFarmPig | these spambots are hilarious. They've been pinging people in #freenode for the last couple of days |
| 13:23.00 | ArexR | kill -9 them |
| 13:23.01 | anonnumberanon | Good morning good users. |
| 13:23.05 | tonythomas | mayday |
| 13:23.14 | pylot | haha |
| 13:23.17 | Ad1 | good morning ;) |
| 13:23.21 | busch | Ban the whole /24 |
| 13:23.24 | Ticho | just ignore them, do not add to the spam on channels - ops are doing their job |
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| 13:23.30 | EdePopede | 20.11 14:22:53 <dpkg> You already asked me something 0 seconds ago. <-- ey, that's not true! oO |
| 13:23.30 | DebGuest | im off for now THX Guys :)! |
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| 13:23.41 | imaami | ok |
| 13:23.52 | tytan | How can you become an OP btw? |
| 13:24.01 | wjtaylor | lmao |
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| 13:25.03 | EdePopede | i'd say: don't call them, they'll call you ;) |
| 13:25.28 | UukGoblin | I feel like IRCNet 15 years ago |
| 13:25.38 | obsed | tytan: sexual favors |
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| 13:26.13 | tytan | Well I'd like to be an OP since I'm on IRC very often :D |
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| 13:26.46 | jelly-home | tytan: show technical and social competence in the channel for a couple years |
| 13:27.05 | tytan | ^^; |
| 13:27.09 | jelly-home | worked for me. Except the social part. |
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| 13:29.04 | tytan | installing LXDE takes an eternity on this particular machine :/ |
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| 13:46.42 | child | what the difference between nvidia proprietary drivers at wheezy backports and nouveau driver? |
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| 13:47.39 | brianblaze420 | really... |
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| 13:48.00 | ashka | sounds legitimate |
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| 13:48.12 | obsed | lame |
| 13:48.19 | crane | sounds mor like someone is not taking their meds |
| 13:48.21 | *** mode/#debian [+o mentor] by ChanServ |
| 13:48.22 | obsed | so this guy only has like 5 hosts in his botnet |
| 13:48.23 | mawe | omg irc spamming, thats so 1998 |
| 13:48.24 | obsed | lol lame |
| 13:48.25 | Cybertinus | first #ubuntu, now #debian... :( |
| 13:48.31 | ned__ | why highlight me? |
| 13:48.37 | moeyebus | wat? |
| 13:48.42 | alexlist | spambots |
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| 13:48.46 | _FBi | it's all ned__'s fault |
| 13:48.49 | Shadow_7 | nouveau blows for my ge 6150. Hangs terribly after a relatively short period. The nvidia driver doesn't (but still sucks) |
| 13:49.00 | joar | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:49.02 | ned__ | just dos that bot |
| 13:49.17 | chrisc | *sigh* |
| 13:49.18 | ned__ | annoying |
| 13:49.25 | Shadow_7 | blame it on obamacare |
| 13:49.26 | joncrunchbang | child: there is quite a difference between nouveau and proprietary drivers. if you're going to do any gaming or anything that puts a load on your nvidia card - you're much better off with proprietary drivers from nvidia. |
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| 13:49.49 | cali | joncrunchbang, or without nvidia. |
| 13:49.58 | obsed | i have a 780 Ti |
| 13:50.20 | child | joncrunchbang, are they less stable right? |
| 13:50.23 | tytan | Do you know where to configure autologin in LXDE? |
| 13:50.27 | Shadow_7 | nvidia supposedly has a long history of working against the nouveau project |
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| 13:51.30 | joncrunchbang | child: well, i'm using nvidia drivers right now, no drawbacks -- none that i care about anyways. |
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| 13:52.02 | joncrunchbang | nouveau has one advantage: optimus support. |
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| 13:52.43 | icjs | hmm, it hihglights an issue maybe - a channel this popular needs someone with ops though, ChanServ and debhelper sound like bots |
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| 13:52.45 | jelly-home | child: stability and features of the free nouveau driver depend on the card and driver version. nvidia closed driver mostly works, but uses APIs in slightly different ways and in some corner cases introduces weird kernel bugs |
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| 13:52.57 | Shadow_7 | on my nvidia box I run jessie. So the drawback is I have to reinstall it everytime the kernel updates. So once a week |
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| 13:53.26 | EdePopede | @nvidia: i possibly asked before, but are there any tests? compatibility and rhm, how do you call it... find out what breaks funtionality. like win's directx test or memtest and such stuff |
| 13:53.28 | Kobra | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:53.32 | child | and is there a difference between proprietary drivers, installed by backports or binary? |
| 13:53.47 | Shadow_7 | Kobra: I don't use the backports |
| 13:53.56 | Kobra | Shadow_7: oh, you're not sid? |
| 13:54.07 | mentor | waves at icjs |
| 13:54.09 | jelly-home | Shadow_7: we recommend using debian's packaging of the non-free driver (that nvidia-dkms thing) to avoid having to do that |
| 13:54.24 | Shadow_7 | Kobra: sid has too many updates for my 3rd world usa interwebs |
| 13:54.32 | Kobra | lol |
| 13:54.35 | joncrunchbang | haha. |
| 13:54.50 | jelly-home | Shadow_7: debian stable doesn't really have kernel updates once a week, tho |
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| 13:55.04 | tytan | Can you tell me how to configure autologin of a user in Debian using LXDE? |
| 13:55.09 | Shadow_7 | my wheezy install has an intel chipset |
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| 13:56.52 | child | jelly-home, I got some odd kernel bugs here at kernel 3.17.3 and nvidia proprietary drivers |
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| 14:02.20 | vinci | tytan, I don't know, but LXDE itself (the graphical toolkit & tools) is not responsible on autologin |
| 14:02.45 | tytan | I noticed that, too :( |
| 14:02.45 | vinci | its DM (Display Manager, the program usually responsible on login people into X) is |
| 14:02.57 | vinci | so it depends on which DM you are using |
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| 14:03.31 | vinci | (so I don't know the answer, but you'd be better off by searching on your GDM/XDM/...DM man pages & docs) |
| 14:03.53 | tytan | LXDM |
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| 14:04.34 | cCVjBhmrOO | FREENODE STAFF NO LONGER APPROVES OF THE GPL. GTFO. jpinxâSavemechâjbaiterâzalamiâswymâtopi`âNothing4YouâDunedanâGuest67427âPosterdatiâaffa09âRickyB98âUukGoblinâharrisonârdzâJmZ_âcatpiggerâjhutchinsâLordDeathâCMEâteeteewhyârainfyreâheinrich5991âf0lderâSubfuscâsphenxesâworstieâamphiâanryâvincent_câlevifigâprellerâjholdenâgbenceâShadow`âebfullâmoeyebusâthiagossâtinocoâChristi |
| 14:04.34 | EsgOeqKrl | FREENODE STAFF NO LONGER APPROVES OF THE GPL. GTFO. tdreyer1âashkaâxryzâDj_DexterâphaerâPsyloâgardarâdigilinkâhellschreiber_âag4ve_âspudwebbâmelterâpingvenoânyuszika7hâbitgeekâkrupsânukleonâliftâIridosâtattoliâXeârrehbeinâpylotâcafuegoâblast_hardcheeseâkRushâCarlGelâMoTecâvurmaâCabanossiâbadiane_kaâscampbellâin1t3râArexRâvaldynâhuayraâsobkasâtotteâmtâbeardoâ |
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| 14:04.34 | EsgOeqKrl | FREENODE STAFF NO LONGER APPROVES OF THE GPL. GTFO. Gm4nâalthalusâp_quarlesâObi-Wanâmf|rdpâbpsâtabakhaseâfrostschutzâZackioâPhilSliderS-âkkvlkâdrumrâbcdâPinkFreudânopfâmirdaâmark-âDaemoen_âarchitektâkskâaffa09âsllideâGuest77655âNiamkikâmukmukâpet2001âSlashmanâespeedâbadianeâmulti_ioâTigerbotHeshâBercikâbipolarâalechâphantomcircuitâjalalsfsâolriâthelamestâbasti |
| 14:04.34 | EsgOeqKrl | FREENODE STAFF NO LONGER APPROVES OF THE GPL. GTFO. vitalâSl0viâfundiesâValicekBâLocke0âBlueEagleâKaboonâriotâMVXAâsaphoâeshloxâgraytronâjamesfrymanâazizLIGHTâbenfâAPLUâDalekSecâChrisHâweltzoooâcsstylishâSsquidlyâesaym153âGuest23449âk^âlobomufasâSelveste1_âKirilâyuvadmâcmyersâdrewdavisâhrvojeâfutexâwiebelâJn_KellâArd1tâJyZyXELâArkadietzâdimitry7âvt0râRurd2di |
| 14:04.34 | EsgOeqKrl | FREENODE STAFF NO LONGER APPROVES OF THE GPL. GTFO. AftersterâThom-ârotten777âne0h|nihilistâponyofdeathâsdollinsâtreakiâMalmis_eâmuh2000âIgneousâLlama052âSuperdawgâAd1âsdfrâOffbeatAdamâNiLonâTarjaizaidâsinonickâJarusâHexxisâkleanchapâph8âInternet13âcian1500wwâgebbaâvelleity_ânoahfxânevynâroboman2444âskiâkotnikâjholdenâTomyWorkâzanchoPansaâjareth_âOverlordzâsveva65 |
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| 14:04.39 | WwjMEz | FREENODE STAFF NO LONGER APPROVES OF THE GPL. GTFO. MegafâlevifigâH3XIL3DâCorkâCieNTiâzalamiân0d3âSbrokerâB_Smithâsveva65âmnsâylt`ânoskloâGarheadeâBercikâenterprisedcâsdollinsâmirage335âjholdenâItTakesTwoâO00OâAlulaâfeisar__âsaphoâCeBeâtlundâskuleâterxx_âLiam`âdpkgâkrthnzâdezgotânikomoâMathisenâjesselangâSpockzâhuglesterâBishâquinputâjoevandykâjayarajâratsupremacyârenzhiâKra |
| 14:04.39 | WwjMEz | FREENODE STAFF NO LONGER APPROVES OF THE GPL. GTFO. teranâ
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| 14:04.39 | WwjMEz | FREENODE STAFF NO LONGER APPROVES OF THE GPL. GTFO. parusâws2k3âSirLagzâDuststormâmf|rdpâYoshi1âjagerâDisconsentedâthalosâdeathspawnâin1t3râM0ulinâsllideâthomassgnâdoktor5000__âfutureperfectâAJ_Z0âRivieraâkwksilverâmark-âidoruâMoDaXâmormotâjohskarâp0g0âBotoMlat1âyanâbobleeâtrenchâurnâhazrpgâdimirâillyâTomyWorkâmikedep333âwaynrâDammitJimâtomivsâyanoâPlasmastarâboemelaarâraSter^â |
| 14:04.39 | UEmNomkak | FREENODE STAFF NO LONGER APPROVES OF THE GPL. GTFO. jimmy51v_âshingouzâNiTeMaReâtobiasBoraâChoiKyuSangâAnarchicâcodedwarâag4ve_âdgm816âLV-426âbrolin_empeyâAnarchâdoebiâblommerâkInOzAwAâdigastricusâon1xâseverideâtoolzâSpeed`âjoevandykâparanoidsâseekrânsfwârbanffyâanryâdcorbinâxar-âBrigoâSpecâmikedep333âvol4koâRyanKnackâweykentâdrwxâSleepy63âelikâinfiâSlydderâjusâ`^-_-^`âclaw |
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| 14:04.54 | nyuszika7h | !ops |
| 14:04.55 | dpkg | Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. Operators can also be contacted in the #debian-ops channel. |
| 14:04.58 | eoUOnJvQvt | FREENODE STAFF NO LONGER APPROVES OF THE GPL. GTFO. xand caveat- dwb warsoul huglester axisys Yoshi1 johskar debchange smoothcode dbristow nbb nicdev` njs` `Kevin kline Apeiron` mattcen tattoli nikomo Klumben ShapeShifter499 boemelaar Quimby blocky n0d3 Tiktalik APexil austin_laptop RA3OR joelpet civillian rorx Kamilion lorenzosu eccentric rrehbein cliffer SPF supay sussudio VeggieMeat AntiSpamMeta niko Slydder |
| 14:04.58 | eoUOnJvQvt | FREENODE STAFF NO LONGER APPROVES OF THE GPL. GTFO. Sammy8806âRovanionâDunedanâtoolzânurupoâmuh2000âDry_LipsâHicksDâpoulet_aâStary2001âFreeBNCsâshifty``âinfiâfuqiâK1rkâLindrianâAsadHâkRushâjoltâtroulouliou_devâriotâelmargolâheuristâanonnumberanonâfundiesâtekzillaâStummiâtotteânitzâalexlistâ_KaszpiR_âgzcwnkâcatpiggerâAsenarâzumbiâmeteâtdnâuberâbool_âExagone313âGuest74159âto |
| 14:04.58 | eoUOnJvQvt | FREENODE STAFF NO LONGER APPROVES OF THE GPL. GTFO. Shadow`âvectr0nâshadokâk1ngâgeturafr1nordrânikolahâgrim4593âNothing4YouâocasoâjbaiterâDreamixâsupaplexâLordDeathâwillmoreâdaswortâvividâDiegoK_âMcLiveârax-ânathanhiâsteiner66__âlasersâfatalerrors-sandâkbtrâcloromorphoâp0g0âDammitJimâkdoxâag4veâlinc_âSimotek-WorkâbobleeâsllideâicedpâKingsyânohklmâHappzzâriexâglebihanânollidjâ |
| 14:04.59 | nyuszika7h | !ops spammrts |
| 14:05.00 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: nyuszika7h complains about: spammrts |
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| 14:05.09 | nkWwHlTIs | FREENODE STAFF NO LONGER APPROVES OF THE GPL. GTFO. woffsâHaswellâraSter^âglebihan_âix007âAkimotoâc0urierâbehemoth_âpipeepâTDJACRâArchDukeâbin_bashâflyingkiwiâspookleyâDixi___âB_Smithânirelârwwâluckman212âVasco87âSir_DesiâAziroshinâandatcheâin1t3râSirLagzâAKBlindyâTiffonâSpockzâbreak19âgturnerâfuqiâvurmaâThom-âevilman_workâShadow_7âphixâSupaYoshiâjoelpetâmactimesâbazhangâAbh |
| 14:05.10 | nyuszika7h | spammers, even |
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| 14:05.11 | pZfzGOWGu | FREENODE STAFF NO LONGER APPROVES OF THE GPL. GTFO. amospallaâXjs|moonshineâLRgrahamâsomniumâcatiaâDamioxâbadianeâSueâdefarge_âRivieraâcaveat-âhuayraâFloTiXâmagyarâillyâvol4koâHappzzâmormotâRed_MâcbdevâbarnabaâaxisysâdwatkinsâmarkotitelâAciD`ânikolahâbuschârdzârevcaneâkiniâiulhkâmagnetâhaasnâmulti_ioâAPexilâsmoothcodeâLouisâjhjâSPF|CloudâNiTeMaReâTheNumbersâ |
| 14:05.11 | pZfzGOWGu | FREENODE STAFF NO LONGER APPROVES OF THE GPL. GTFO. Ooze youellet GGflags SupaYoshi Guest23449 jbaiter Guest74159 Alina-malina Celelibi fusmu Tommos_ mikedep333 PhilSliderS- aboudreault ohcibi glebihan wiebel ghost64 CyberSix TBCOOL Epakai jargon ghenry Pontus Ssquidly Christian2 kwksilver Voyager_MP threadlock ashka Trieste ilken yanosz hopthrisC Xe ttoko bhckr mikeey ectospasm dimir rysiek|pl johnnyfive chosi dazoe tomivs |
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| 14:05.11 | pZfzGOWGu | FREENODE STAFF NO LONGER APPROVES OF THE GPL. GTFO. Llama052âGuest31161âvaleriusNâpaulwaâZackioâtestiâmanfoo7âUninstall_âbrokencycleâmoha_huntâMoggetâIDrinkMilkâterr1âwiskiâHunterkllâburnâEryn_1983_FLâDasielâulkeshâSri_DesignerâsosbyâroesrvâIloinyâlasersâk4tfishâLiam`âJames_Tâfireant_âakamaru217âEastsideRâskwlkr__âfrdmnâovanauâlunchdumpâcisco987âcarlhako1ânecrogamiâ |
| 14:05.11 | pZfzGOWGu | FREENODE STAFF NO LONGER APPROVES OF THE GPL. GTFO. nrdbâanonnumberanonâkdogâsexyboyâmumixamâkaleâfreedomrunâbehemoth_âmaxexclooâfeisar__âtokuchouâbpsâjoelsmithâCleoâslav0nicâMrFroodâmetalaâkanzureâMoTecâBackEndCoderâheuristâDj_DexterâllakeyâLV-426ân-st_sleeperâhgebonerâcomotionâcivillianâstaropramânevynâcwillu_at_workâvurmaâdaemonkeeperâhguux_âdiginetâyeticryâolegfu |
| 14:05.11 | UNklEHdtJS | FREENODE STAFF NO LONGER APPROVES OF THE GPL. GTFO. cRaNnKâGuest77655âjelly-homeâfinlstrm_ârypervencheâSleepy63ân13zâtdreyer1âcafuegoâbt6âVutralâmactimesâmetalaâmixomathozeâJonathanDâpasky_âdazoeâCutzenfreundâteranâwangâEsya-âclopezâespeedâspookleyâtabakhaseâdiabelâsarlalia1âSelfarianâKirilâatannusâferret_âribasushiâhazrpgâamatechaâbeejeeâNickeehâSupaYoshiâtariq7 |
| 14:05.11 | UNklEHdtJS | FREENODE STAFF NO LONGER APPROVES OF THE GPL. GTFO. futexâjareth_âworstieâkopteinâhopthrisCâSOUL_OF_R00Tâchbâbrianblaze420âTomyWorkâinfernixâJZTech101âdraccâfreakcomâStorfiskarenâcontemptâbaschtâRoyK^WorkâteddybeermaniacâSTMelonâjthomasâDry_Lipsâyanoszâsmvâmikedep333âfreedomrunâr420râtdnâChris7masâredeemedâmirdaâAnarchâkrupsâb0ltâtomocha6âshingouzâivan``âbchamberla |
| 14:05.11 | UNklEHdtJS | FREENODE STAFF NO LONGER APPROVES OF THE GPL. GTFO. anapivirtua aboudreault Daemoen_ seekr nikolah daurnimator GLiX gebba bobsapp hfp Riviera d3lphi n0arch foo r3m uber ToBeFree mboehn theshadow redwalk BlueEagle thomassgn killian99 pythonsnake testi Kaimei dwatkins meinaeiner2 vivid huayra sexyboy nullck Bartleby illy LRgraham akamaru217 delphicokami nirel MrBy2 jolt busch riot _10bag yano Dr-Shadow |
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| 14:05.12 | Ad1 | spamming bot... |
| 14:05.12 | fundies | ugh |
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| 14:05.20 | Ad1 | yhh |
| 14:05.21 | MadHatter42 | whats sthat ? |
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| 14:05.30 | Romtam- | ._. |
| 14:05.31 | Romtam- | ahh |
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| 14:05.54 | TomyWork | i need my mass highlight filter script from home... |
| 14:05.58 | Romtam- | MadHatter42: spambot, feel free to ignore |
| 14:06.03 | Ad1 | is there any option to auto kick spambots? |
| 14:06.10 | mentor | I think the Freenode spam bot is going to be faster than me on this one |
| 14:06.12 | AciD` | when not just +r ? |
| 14:06.20 | Savemech | some ass was burn bright :D |
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| 14:06.37 | MadHatter42 | does anyone uses squid here ? |
| 14:06.52 | MadHatter42 | i've set up squid with ldap ntml auth via domain on my debian 7 |
| 14:07.04 | MadHatter42 | but i get prompted for username and password |
| 14:07.07 | MadHatter42 | -.-' |
| 14:07.18 | CeBe | Ad1: "(quit: Excess Flood)" looks like he was automatically kicked already |
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| 14:07.51 | Ad1 | CeBe: great ;) |
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| 14:08.52 | Ad1 | these bots was attacking few channels where i am |
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| 14:10.58 | Ad1 | somebody's bored and did that shit, i don't understand people like they |
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| 14:12.01 | Ad1 | the same things we have on mail accounts, a lot of spam... ehh |
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| 14:14.27 | malik_ | looking at debian and fsck handling i am a little confused. /etc/init.d/checkroot of the root file system is used to check the root file system. that seems odd. |
| 14:14.34 | malik_ | then we use fsck of the root file system (mounted read only) to modify the root file system. that too seems problematic. |
| 14:14.37 | malik_ | can somebody clear this up for me? |
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| 14:18.29 | frostschutz | malik_, odd as may be, that's essentially how it works |
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| 14:19.08 | jelly-home | malik_: that's a common way to fsck / on unix. If fsck does any changes, what kernel thinks about the underlying system differs from what's acutally on disk, so at that point the scripts do a reboot again. |
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| 14:20.34 | jelly-home | malik_: the only way around that would be to do a fsck while the / filesystem is not mounted at all. You'd need a separate root fs just for that, or you'd have to put fsck and scripts into the initramfs image. |
| 14:20.40 | malik_ | frostschutz, jelly-home: wouldnt it be much saner to have fsck in the initramdisk on a separate boot partition? i mean what happens the file system is damaged and i cannot read the fsck binary? |
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| 14:21.35 | jelly-home | malik_: what if you don't have a separate boot? What if initramfs image is damaged? Well... then you boot a separate rescue system. |
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| 14:21.58 | jelly-home | malik_: this way works even if there is no initrd or initramfs at all. |
| 14:22.44 | frostschutz | malik_, sure, could be done in initramfs. although I've seen a few initramfs guides that attempt adding fsck but they do a horribly botched job of it. |
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| 14:23.23 | jelly-home | malik_: to be more precise -- this way had worked even when there was no initrd, even on older unix systems before Linux. It's a bit of legacy. |
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| 14:24.15 | avoider | Hi yes i just downloaded debian 7.0 im having some slight issues was just wondering if i can have some help |
| 14:24.30 | malik_ | frostschutz: what are the pitfalls there? i think if i install busybox it is added to the initrd and fsck may be available |
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| 14:24.37 | avoider | For some reason ice weasle keeps crashing on me |
| 14:24.40 | avoider | and freezing |
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| 14:24.41 | frostschutz | malik_, if the filesystem is so broken that it can't even be mounted read only, it's a good idea to get a human to look at it. fsck sometimes breaks more things than it fixes |
| 14:25.01 | avoider | I think it has to do with debian not detecting my video card |
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| 14:25.04 | malik_ | jelly-home: ok... that makes some sense |
| 14:25.05 | avoider | "nvidia |
| 14:25.32 | avoider | any ideas? |
| 14:25.40 | frostschutz | malik_, I never run fsck anymore without some way to undo whatever fsck does. dm-snapshot, nbd copy-on-write, ... see what happens and only apply if it actually helped |
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| 14:28.06 | avoider | i cant keep internet browser open long enough to google the issue or i would |
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| 14:28.31 | malik_ | frostschutz, jelly-home: okay... thank you for your kind help |
| 14:28.49 | potatao | my /var/log/auth.log is empty, and messages are continuing to be logged to the rotated /var/log/auth.log.1 |
| 14:28.54 | potatao | does anyone know what's up with that? |
| 14:28.58 | potatao | I've restarted rsyslog |
| 14:29.04 | jelly-home | avoider: you might try installing and using chromium |
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| 14:29.33 | avoider | jelly-home.... that doesnt fix anything on the desktop |
| 14:29.41 | avoider | ie, lag apps opening slowly |
| 14:30.04 | jelly-home | avoider: no, but if you have a working browser, you can put logs in pastebins and that helps with debugging |
| 14:30.06 | avoider | The soultion is to get the nvidia drivers to update and detect |
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| 14:30.47 | nkuttler | is there a cli tool that will generate the time-based otp from a secret? |
| 14:31.04 | jalalsfs | debhelper, Is there anyone to kick the noisy person? |
| 14:31.13 | jelly-home | avoider: what does the "lspci -nn" line for your graphic card look like? |
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| 14:31.59 | avoider | ? |
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| 14:32.17 | tytan | I have no sound :( |
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| 14:32.29 | tytan | Debian 7.7 LXDE |
| 14:32.51 | avoider | what do you mean jelly-home |
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| 14:33.01 | iulhk | debian 7.7.0 installed on my vmware machine, whenver i try to install anything like apt-get install vim , it replies "media changed disk labeled" any idea please ? |
| 14:33.33 | jelly-home | avoider: run the command "lspci -nn", find the line corresponding to your graphic card and paste it here. |
| 14:33.50 | avoider | 02:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: NVIDIA Corporation GK107 [GeForce GT 630] [10de:0f00] (rev a1) |
| 14:34.01 | tytan | Can anyone help me with my sound problem? ^^; |
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| 14:35.47 | TomyWork | iulhk can you copypaste that message instead of paraphrasing it? |
| 14:36.02 | TomyWork | if it's longer, use pastebin |
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| 14:37.10 | avoider | jelly-home: you get that? |
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| 14:38.30 | mtn | !tell tytan about alsa checklist |
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| 14:40.53 | hramrach_ | also when desperate you can try oss4 |
| 14:41.25 | hramrach_ | or get an USB shoundcard for like $10 and solve your sound problems forever |
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| 14:42.07 | avoider | .. how can i open this /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 14:42.08 | avoider | ? |
| 14:42.16 | hramrach_ | For me one onboard sound card works and another requires oss driver for some reason |
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| 14:42.25 | hramrach_ | avoider: in a text editor |
| 14:42.35 | avoider | you know the command? |
| 14:42.45 | hramrach_ | gedit/nano/vim |
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| 14:46.05 | phre4k | is the following bare metal to VM migration viable? Backup Debian from the running system with ro root file system and stopped services to the data partition, then installing Proxmox and creating a new VM, connecting the data partition and copying back the files via booting the VM from a Live CD? |
| 14:46.41 | phre4k | avoider: you might need super user (root) rights with su or sudo |
| 14:46.50 | avoider | yeah |
| 14:47.03 | iateadonut | i'm writing a script that checks url's to see if they are active. the wget command is this: wget --timeout=10 --tries=3 --quiet --user-agent="Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:21.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/21.0" --referer=google.com --header="Accept: text/html" http://www.alsintl.com > null 2>&1 && echo 1 || echo 0 - it works on quite a few websites but it is giving me a false negative on alsintl.com (the url in the command above) |
| 14:47.12 | avoider | i have to rebooy ill brb |
| 14:47.16 | avoider | thanks guys |
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| 14:47.41 | r_lex | wtf |
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| 14:48.01 | Cpuroast | god, these spam bots are great :( |
| 14:48.12 | petn-randall | iateadonut: What do you get if you don't hide all the output? |
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| 14:48.32 | sexygirl19 | hi babe |
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| 14:48.45 | McLive | ._. |
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| 14:48.54 | fundies | fakin useless ops |
| 14:48.55 | McLive | please no |
| 14:48.56 | moeyebus | yomoma |
| 14:48.57 | brianblaze420 | what is with this room today |
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| 14:49.06 | bogus- | wtf |
| 14:49.09 | nohklm | !ops |
| 14:49.10 | dpkg | Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. Operators can also be contacted in the #debian-ops channel. |
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| 14:49.21 | apofis | hi guys, what is this ? spam bots ? |
| 14:49.26 | smv | yeah |
| 14:49.35 | nohklm | dpkg: ops spambots |
| 14:49.35 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: nohklm complains about: spambots |
| 14:49.44 | sexygirl19 | mmmmmmmmmmmmmm |
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| 14:49.48 | halothe23 | More spam bots, that for whatever reasons are making it trough. |
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| 14:50.19 | linuxthefish | why debian? |
| 14:50.27 | r_lex | what's wrong with this spambots |
| 14:50.28 | dgm816 | because its a large channel |
| 14:50.30 | bogus- | dpkg: ops spam problem |
| 14:50.31 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: bogus- complains about: spam problem |
| 14:50.36 | StolenToast | they're trying to take down the debian irc network of course |
| 14:50.37 | nyuszika7h | !ops someone set +r |
| 14:50.37 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: nyuszika7h complains about: someone set +r |
| 14:50.38 | r_lex | they not even spam viagra links |
| 14:50.48 | r_lex | with that amount of messages? |
| 14:50.49 | r_lex | lol |
| 14:50.54 | sexypussy19 | mmmmm |
| 14:51.02 | linuxthefish | hmm |
| 14:51.04 | ikanobori | Debian is one of the few (?) large channels that hasn't set the channel to registered only, would be my guess. |
| 14:51.05 | halothe23 | Strange that theres no porn, viagra, or other pharmaceutical links getting spammed. |
| 14:51.17 | bogus- | indeed |
| 14:51.20 | sabun | »» [sexypussy19] is away (watch me) |
| 14:51.25 | bogus- | just as i needed some extra viagra :( |
| 14:51.25 | sabun | im watching you |
| 14:51.27 | linuxthefish | nobody in here is that stupid :p |
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| 14:51.47 | nyuszika7h | ikanobori: yeah |
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| 14:51.54 | jemendja | hi |
| 14:52.02 | dgm816 | lol |
| 14:52.09 | petn-randall | iateadonut: What do you get if you don't hide all the output? |
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| 14:53.03 | AquaL1te | short question, i want to run a debian jessie desktop (gnome) with selinux. this seems to be not as easy as with e.g. fedora where gnome works out of the box... anyone else tried it with succes? |
| 14:53.16 | ned__ | oh my nick |
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| 14:53.44 | iateadonut | petn-randall, thanks - i used --delete-after instead of quiet and that might work. i'm still running through a list; i think there are some other false negatives down the way. |
| 14:53.44 | fraff | we'd need a captcha to enter this chan ... |
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| 14:55.24 | iulhk | <TomyWork>: can you please check the "http://paste.linuxassist.net/view/154ba1ad" getting issue with apt-get ? |
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| 14:56.08 | Quin | hey again.. it's me, the troublesome person with the new video card |
| 14:56.22 | TomyWork | iulhk why me? |
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| 14:57.30 | phre4k | jesus, who does that? |
| 14:57.48 | mtn | !tell iulhk about wheezy sources.list |
| 14:57.48 | iulhk | can anyone check the "http://paste.linuxassist.net/view/154ba1ad" getting issue with apt-get ? |
| 14:57.58 | iateadonut | wget --timeout=10 --tries=3 --delete-after --user-agent="Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:21.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/21.0" --referer=google.com --header="Accept: text/html" http://www.bellydancematernity.com - that gives a 403 forbidden error |
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| 14:58.12 | mtn | iulhk: and get rid of the cd/dvd line in there, too |
| 14:58.27 | iateadonut | so it gives a false positive but it shows up on a web browser, petn-randall |
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| 15:00.14 | petn-randall | iulhk: No, we don't check nor support 3rd party repositories here. |
| 15:00.36 | NGC3982 | I'm still having issues with my Aspire Revo not having any graphic drivers for the Nvidia ION card. |
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| 15:01.05 | NGC3982 | I installed Nvidia detect, and it tells me the card is supported with the "default drivers" and asks me to install nvidia-gfx - So i do. |
| 15:01.07 | petn-randall | iulhk: Scratch the last message. Check what dpkg sent you. |
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| 15:02.27 | NGC3982 | I also did: "22:30 < somiaj> !tell NGC3982 about nvidia dkms" |
| 15:02.28 | NGC3982 | That thing. |
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| 15:02.38 | xX-Lugal-Xx | hello |
| 15:02.40 | xX-Lugal-Xx | I need help |
| 15:02.51 | xX-Lugal-Xx | i cant install debian |
| 15:03.07 | NGC3982 | The only error i get is that Emulationstation can't find my video card. |
| 15:03.08 | mtn | !tell xX-Lugal-Xx about ask |
| 15:03.11 | xX-Lugal-Xx | when I install and try to boot i get the error: unknown filesyste, |
| 15:03.13 | petn-randall | iateadonut: No, it's not a false positive, you're really getting a 403 error. |
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| 15:04.13 | xX-Lugal-Xx | and then it enters rescue mode |
| 15:05.04 | petn-randall | xX-Lugal-Xx: How did you install Debian? |
| 15:05.05 | iateadonut | yes, that's true - wget is NOT giving a false positive but the way i'm using it is; i'm not getting a 403 when i use a web-browser, but i think the headers are all the same, so i'm not sure why. |
| 15:05.09 | iateadonut | petn-randall |
| 15:05.41 | xX-Lugal-Xx | in partition menue, I clicked : Manually, then selected free space, and automatically create partitions |
| 15:05.56 | xX-Lugal-Xx | then I installed on them |
| 15:06.18 | xX-Lugal-Xx | it created a swap and an ext4 partition. |
| 15:07.09 | xX-Lugal-Xx | after having the error I restarted the installation and manually made swap, ext4 and efi boot partition. ext and efi got bootable flag |
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| 15:08.04 | yuvadm | can anyone help me debug this stupid Xorg error? https://gist.github.com/yuvadm/37b38e38ce0c48706437 |
| 15:08.11 | yuvadm | plain vanilla installation with intel graphics |
| 15:08.52 | yuvadm | plain vanilla + backports kernel and intel graphics |
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| 15:10.04 | xX-Lugal-Xx | and I installed using a USB stick the newest stable iso with lxde |
| 15:10.11 | xX-Lugal-Xx | so can you help me? |
| 15:10.27 | ChrisH | Is there a way to get multipathing information like 'multipath -l' without root? |
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| 15:10.37 | petn-randall | iateadonut: Probably not, I'm assuming the site is blocking wget, I don't think it's a bug in wget. |
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| 15:13.54 | Quin | if I'm using the default nvidia driver that comes with testing, and I see nvidia in my lsmod.. when X starts up, it should be using the nv driver.. right? |
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| 15:14.41 | LV-426 | yuvadm, might offer a *little* info - http://askubuntu.com/questions/304845/no-screens-found-after-apt-get-upgrade-with-intel-video-card |
| 15:15.07 | yuvadm | hah, LV-426 :) |
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| 15:15.41 | iateadonut | the user-agent i'm sending is Mozilla rather than wget |
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| 15:16.32 | yuvadm | LV-426: little info indeed, it's a weird ubuntu specific hack |
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| 15:18.09 | jhutchins_wk | Quin: THere are two drivers, the kernel driver for kms and the xwindows driver. |
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| 15:24.28 | bewees | Hi, I followed debian's openvpn tutorial, I can't ping my VPN Server nor client. Still not sure how to do the routing. See the red text: http://www.gliffy.com/go/publish/image/6549507/L.png |
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| 15:27.23 | Quin | jhutchins_wk: thanx... my debian guru here has come to the rescue |
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| 15:33.32 | ChrisH | bewees: why not use ccd for node1 and node2 and do a push "redirect-gateway def1" |
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| 15:34.13 | ChrisH | bewees: I just see, you are using pre-shared keys. So only one node can connect at one time (IIRC) and I am not sure if ccd works with pre-shared keys. |
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| 15:36.13 | bewees | ChrisH, I didn't use CCD yet because I wanted to setup the VPN the easiest way first to see how it works, then I wanted to use pre shared keys and add multiple vpn clients |
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| 15:37.26 | bewees | ChrisH, Debian's tutorial says I should run this "# ip route add VPNSERVER_IP via LOCALGATEWAY_IP dev eth0 proto static". But what should I put for VPNSERVER_IP and LOCALGATEWAY if you see my network setup in the image I pasted |
| 15:37.35 | tytan | I just installed Debian Wheezy with LXDE. But I have no sound :/ |
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| 15:39.14 | KaaK | bewees, in my experiance, openVPN issues boil down to three issues: 1) not knowing the difference between NAT'ed configs and static route'd configs 2) iptables firewalls blocking things (in the FORWARD chain) 3) forgetting to enable packet forwarding (net.ipv4.ip_forward=1) |
| 15:39.34 | AquaL1te | tytan: open alsamixer (or install it) unmute, mute some channels randomly until it works |
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| 15:39.57 | tytan | AquaL1te randomly :'D |
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| 15:40.22 | mtn | tytan: did you follow all of the steps the bot sent you? |
| 15:40.22 | jhutchins_wk | !alsa checklist |
| 15:40.23 | dpkg | 1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out & in again) 2) unmute and raise channels w/ alsamixer (also try muting some & toggle jack sense if available) 3) <pulseaudio> or other daemon stopped? 4) speakers on? 5) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? 6) purge any installed <oss4> packages to remove ALSA blacklist. See also <list alsa users>, <alsa firmware>. |
| 15:40.36 | mtn | yeah, that one ;) |
| 15:40.48 | tytan | ok, I'll try |
| 15:40.52 | AquaL1te | tytan: yep :( i know, but i have the same thing with gnome, every time |
| 15:41.18 | tytan | I can hear something mostly rushing but a little of the music in the background. |
| 15:41.21 | jhutchins_wk | mtn: I know it's cleaner to /msg the bot, but it often does help to have the reply, or at least the send in the general discussion. |
| 15:41.37 | ChrisH | bewees: From my experience the simplest way is to use certificates and ccd. I never setup anything else. |
| 15:41.46 | mtn | jhutchins_wk: ok, good idea. |
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| 15:42.05 | bewees | KaaK, 1) I know what Source NAT'ing does, but I don't know what debians tutorial want to route exactly 2) *filter FORWARD is accepting by default 3) ipv4 forwarding is enabled on the server. |
| 15:42.17 | AquaL1te | tytan: could be alsamixer, or maybe pulseaudio, try pavucontrol if alsamixer doesn't fix it |
| 15:42.24 | bewees | ChrisH, Well then I omit debians tutorial and follow openvpn's ccd tut |
| 15:43.06 | AquaL1te | tytan: and also, don't try to understand the cause, it's less painful if you just do things randomly until it works ;) |
| 15:43.24 | AquaL1te | i got to go |
| 15:44.04 | tytan | let's see :D |
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| 15:46.57 | Cyclohexane | >_< |
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| 15:47.03 | e-anima | hoyl shit :) |
| 15:47.06 | Cyclohexane | STOP THIS MADNESS |
| 15:47.07 | e-anima | holy i mean |
| 15:47.09 | BadApe | hi, other than installing acpid, what else can i do to reduce power? |
| 15:47.15 | Alina-malina | wtf? |
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| 15:47.36 | Cyclohexane | think i need a new nickname that starts with Z |
| 15:47.42 | willmore | They must be one of those pro systemd people. |
| 15:47.47 | BadApe | Cyclohexane: zod |
| 15:47.47 | ned__ | haha |
| 15:47.49 | ned__ | damn |
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| 15:48.01 | ned__ | 3 times |
| 15:48.05 | Nothing4You | Cyclohexane: wouldn't help |
| 15:48.05 | tugrik | nice idea Cyclohexane - except they're not using alphabetical order... |
| 15:48.11 | ned__ | highlight my nick |
| 15:48.14 | Nothing4You | ned__: no |
| 15:48.20 | Nothing4You | no highlight! |
| 15:48.33 | Plasmastar | I am unscathed |
| 15:48.44 | e-anima | whats the aim when such a bot spams all nicknames? |
| 15:48.47 | Nothing4You | it's probably ordered the way the server sends the nicks |
| 15:48.53 | Nothing4You | e-anima: ##comment-on-spam |
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| 15:48.58 | ned__ | why op ignore the bots ? |
| 15:49.01 | e-anima | what? |
| 15:49.14 | Nothing4You | e-anima: it's a channel dedicated to discussion about spam |
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| 15:49.22 | Plasmastar | ned__: Because they get banned from the network. |
| 15:49.22 | e-anima | lol ok. |
| 15:49.24 | Nothing4You | ned__: they don't ignore the bots |
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| 15:49.45 | Nothing4You | ned__: idoru is a utility bot that kills them as fast as possible |
| 15:50.00 | Nothing4You | however, due to the nature how irc works, it can't kill them fast enough to prevent spam |
| 15:50.06 | BadApe | for some weird reason when the os starts the fans turn on high |
| 15:50.14 | KaaK | bewees, do you mind running your pings and traceroutes on both servers and posting the results up on pastebin? |
| 15:51.05 | ned__ | why not ban /64 |
| 15:51.07 | ned__ | ? |
| 15:51.22 | ned__ | ban the block |
| 15:51.32 | bewees | KaaK, I already deleted the config and I am now proceding with preshared keys documentation on openvpn |
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| 15:52.47 | phre4k | what the fuck |
| 15:52.52 | Nothing4You | phre4k: ignore it |
| 15:52.55 | Icedream | i guess today is spambot day |
| 15:52.56 | armin | hehe |
| 15:52.58 | Nothing4You | use ##comment-on-spam if you want to discuss it |
| 15:53.01 | armin | nice |
| 15:53.08 | tabakhase | 2nd one today, one beeing superawesome m( |
| 15:53.16 | phre4k | Nothing4You: ty |
| 15:53.32 | ned__ | The spam bots ip is from ISP: Telemar Norte Leste S.A. Brazil |
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| 15:53.38 | redShadow | ..is youporn down, so kids are left w/o anything better to do? |
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| 15:54.29 | ned__ | IP Address: 210.22.118.122 shanhai China |
| 15:54.39 | ned__ | shanghai* |
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| 15:54.54 | crane | maybe we could start a ddos against that spam servers... *duck and run* |
| 15:54.55 | redShadow | (btw, any xchat script to auto ignore mass highlights?) |
| 15:55.08 | redShadow | like, maybe even remove entirely from the chat |
| 15:55.08 | tytan | crane I'm on your side |
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| 15:55.40 | jelly-home | redShadow: someone in #hexchat or #xchat channels might know |
| 15:55.40 | paulwa | |
| 15:55.40 | paulwa | sk |
| 15:55.40 | paulwa | ks |
| 15:55.46 | NiLon | or maybe just set +r so only registered users can join |
| 15:55.56 | paulwa | sopss sorry, terminal froze! :9 |
| 15:56.01 | Landeskog | Fuckin spam making my phone go off in class |
| 15:56.07 | ctmjr | we should not comment on such things as it is counter productive and it brings us to the same level as the morons that do this |
| 15:56.24 | TomyWork | dont have a phone in class? |
| 15:56.31 | johskar | simply, don't feed the trolls? |
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| 15:57.20 | icjs | is there ip blacklist like spamhaus that irc can use? |
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| 15:57.47 | ned__ | this channel have limit 4 lines and kick if it reach 5 |
| 15:58.02 | jhutchins_wk | icjs: Completely different |
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| 15:58.11 | v0latil3 | I've mounted all my partitions manually under/target on the install disk. Can I continue now or do I need to mount anything else like bind /dev and /sys ? Do i need to edit the /target/etc/fstab or will it do it automatically for me? Or can I just continue in the installer? |
| 15:58.38 | UukGoblin | I have debian jessie and an nvidia GTX 780M card, and I can't get it to work... nvidia-detect says it's supported, but after running nvidia-xconfig and starting Xorg, I get "no devices detected" |
| 15:58.38 | Chiyo | icjs, freenode does, I forget which one though |
| 15:58.55 | UukGoblin | I have nvidia-driver installed |
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| 15:59.59 | v0latil3 | Basically what is everything the "Partition disks" step does? |
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| 16:00.12 | ned__ | ah.. use spamhouse detector bot is good act |
| 16:00.20 | icjs | jelly-home, if this helps: the last few spams have been from 112.72.9.68, 200.141.203.122, 202.148.2.254 and 210.22.118.122 - cant see many commonalities though hence i asked about a blacklist/dnsbl |
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| 16:00.23 | xX-Lugal-Xx | who can help me with the debian installation? |
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| 16:00.34 | Ring0` | seriously |
| 16:00.34 | Lindrian | fuck this |
| 16:00.36 | Ring0` | -.- |
| 16:00.38 | `Yoda | Fuck off. |
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| 16:00.40 | Lindrian | im coming back later. |
| 16:00.45 | `Yoda | ^ |
| 16:00.47 | T0rch | oh shit here as well |
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| 16:01.04 | ned__ | Where else ? |
| 16:01.06 | tytan | xX-Lugal-Xx I can |
| 16:01.09 | T0rch | #ubuntu |
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| 16:01.19 | ned__ | bad |
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| 16:01.29 | abrotman | I'm sure you have something better to talk about ... |
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| 16:01.55 | Bartleby | Did we get invaded? |
| 16:01.58 | ned__ | our cemments got push up by flood |
| 16:02.07 | ned__ | comment* |
| 16:02.08 | frdmn | What the fuck |
| 16:02.31 | Chiyo | it's spam,please ignore (shouldn't happen while there is a quiet on unregistered users) |
| 16:02.46 | abrotman | Please just stop commenting .. |
| 16:02.47 | ned__ | ok |
| 16:02.48 | frdmn | Haha, heghlighted himself. :D |
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| 16:02.58 | frdmn | *he highlighted |
| 16:03.26 | AnimalFarmPig | if you want to comment on spam, visit ##comment-on-spam |
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| 16:03.40 | tytan | lol |
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| 16:03.46 | dorkusmaximus | hmmm |
| 16:03.56 | dorkusmaximus | guess ill come back later when i figure out how to install debian |
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| 16:04.19 | DammitJim | who the heck keeps calling my name? |
| 16:04.36 | ned__ | a bot |
| 16:04.41 | dgm816 | spam bots |
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| 16:04.49 | jm | spam would be a lot better if it had less salt |
| 16:05.01 | dgm816 | low sodium spam bots |
| 16:05.02 | abrotman | Please stop commenting on this .. I'm sure one of you has a Debian problem |
| 16:05.12 | abrotman | If not, go converse elsewhere please |
| 16:05.23 | Chiyo | ##comment-on-spam |
| 16:05.45 | tytan | abrotman can't get sound :D |
| 16:05.59 | abrotman | tytan: What have you tried? Which kernel? does root have sound? |
| 16:06.15 | jm | we don't have debian problems, we have #debian problems |
| 16:06.21 | abrotman | ... |
| 16:06.26 | ned__ | Debian 7.8 on my server. God i love it |
| 16:06.26 | jelly-home | !tell tytan about alsa checklist |
| 16:06.27 | metallic | lol |
| 16:06.42 | tytan | I did the alsa checklist :P |
| 16:06.59 | tytan | I assume my hardware is not working |
| 16:06.59 | jelly-home | tytan: what worked or failed to work? |
| 16:07.12 | tytan | jelly-home nothing failed. never worked |
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| 16:07.34 | jelly-home | tytan: did you try a different OS or a different distro at least? |
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| 16:07.58 | Bartleby | I admire how principled this channel is. <spam> "wtf?" "Discussions of spam are offtopic, please take them elsewhere" |
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| 16:08.50 | tytan | jelly-home not until now. |
| 16:08.51 | UukGoblin | Bartleby, I'm guessing discussions on discussions of spam are offtopic too ;-X |
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| 16:09.06 | abrotman | Last warning, take it elsewhere. |
| 16:09.09 | jhutchins_wk | tytan: Do you have more than one output jack? |
| 16:09.14 | tytan | no |
| 16:09.16 | Bartleby | "Please stop expressing your admiration. If you wish to express your admiration, go to #admiring-debian" |
| 16:09.55 | Bartleby | </offtopic> |
| 16:09.58 | jhutchins_wk | tytan: It's not an onboard disabled in BIOS is it? |
| 16:10.05 | tytan | It's a notebook. the internal speakers don't work, too |
| 16:10.18 | jhutchins_wk | tytan: You've tried the phone jack? |
| 16:10.19 | tytan | jhutchins_wk give me a moment |
| 16:10.22 | abrotman | tytan: have you inspected the output of dmesg for any clues? |
| 16:10.25 | jelly-home | Bartleby, UukGoblin: indeed, for topics other than deban tech support, including spam in this very channel, go to #debian-offtopic or elsewhere |
| 16:10.29 | tytan | jhutchins_wk I tried both |
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| 16:10.35 | abrotman | tytan: lspci -k, do you see a driver for your sound card? |
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| 16:11.00 | tytan | abrotman no. I haven't tried. Can't try now :( |
| 16:11.05 | abrotman | can't? |
| 16:11.32 | UukGoblin | right, Xorg doesn't start even after removing debian's nvidia-driver and installing from nvidia's NVIDIA-*.run file |
| 16:11.53 | UukGoblin | installation went without a problem, I rebooted the system, yet Xorg.0.log still says "no devices detected" :-/ |
| 16:12.16 | UukGoblin | what could be wrong? I'm pretty sure I have a GTX 780M in there... |
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| 16:12.38 | ChrisH | Is there a way to get multipathing information like 'multipath -l' without beeing root? |
| 16:12.59 | abrotman | ChrisH: "sudo" :( |
| 16:13.08 | tytan | abrotman I left the computer. I'm just too frustrated right now |
| 16:13.12 | abrotman | tytan: ah okay |
| 16:14.04 | jelly-home | ChrisH: no. Well, you can browse /sys/block/ and draw conclusions |
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| 16:16.01 | jelly-home | ChrisH: note that "multipath -l" doesn't merely show info. Add -d if you don't want it to do any changes. |
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| 16:16.41 | ChrisH | abrotman: I we would have sudo there.... I would not have asked. |
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| 16:17.04 | ChrisH | jelly-home: OK. Then we will hand this over :) |
| 16:17.08 | UukGoblin | oh, I guess jessie falls into "#debian-next"... could I get an invite please? |
| 16:17.24 | abrotman | UukGoblin: irc.oftc.net, not freenode |
| 16:17.32 | UukGoblin | abrotman, ah, just read that, sorry ;-) |
| 16:17.45 | jelly-home | ChrisH: http://paste.debian.net/132660/ |
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| 16:20.41 | jelly-home | v0latil3: use the installer's expert mode for unusual stuff |
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| 16:21.22 | jelly-home | v0latil3: "subvolume" sounds like zfs or btrfs, that probably counts as unusual |
| 16:21.23 | Chiyo | jelly-home, maybe op idoru? |
| 16:21.28 | ChrisH | jelly-home: Thanks. |
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| 16:46.37 | edoardo | hi |
| 16:46.37 | ravigehlot | For whatever reason, I reboot my PC, it start the boot process at res 1024x764 (which is what I have on GRUB) and then mid way through it drops to 640x480. I am thinking that it has to do with it switching over to GPU instead of discret. any words on why? |
| 16:46.41 | edoardo | is it possible to install ffmpeg on debian? |
| 16:47.07 | edoardo | is there any third party repo? |
| 16:50.10 | petn-randall | !tell edoardo -about libav |
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| 16:51.04 | edoardo | petn-randall: i can't use libav |
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| 16:53.14 | jhutchins_wk | ,v ffmpeg |
| 16:53.15 | judd | Package: ffmpeg on i386 -- squeeze-security: 4:0.5.10-1; squeeze: 4:0.5.10-1; squeeze-security-lts: 4:0.5.10-1+deb6u1; squeeze-multimedia: 5:0.7.16-dmo1; squeeze-backports: 6:0.8.6-1~bpo60+1; wheezy-security: 6:0.8.16-1; wheezy: 6:0.8.16-1; sid: 7:2.4.3-1; wheezy-multimedia: 8:1.0.10-dmo1; sid-multimedia: 10:2.4.3-dmo1; jessie-multimedia: 10:2.4.3-dmo1 |
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| 16:53.49 | edoardo | cool |
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| 16:53.58 | edoardo | so i'll have to enable jessie-multimedia |
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| 16:54.01 | edoardo | didn't know about this repo |
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| 16:54.26 | edoardo | are these the deb-multimedia ones? |
| 16:54.33 | edoardo | http://www.deb-multimedia.org/ |
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| 16:58.59 | petn-randall | edoardo: Why can't you use libav? Notice that you won't get support for 3rd party repos in here. |
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| 17:00.59 | edoardo | petn-randall: because i have some scripts i wrote a while ago and they use ffmpeg |
| 17:01.18 | edoardo | i tried to alias ffmpeg to avconv, but it doesn't work |
| 17:01.35 | edoardo | while ffmpeg on my laptop works |
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| 17:05.28 | GuidovanPossum | edoardo I just installed ffmpeg last night for the same reason, that's the site I used |
| 17:06.09 | edoardo | GuidovanPossum: root@debian:~# ffmpeg |
| 17:06.10 | edoardo | ffmpeg version 2.4.3 Copyright (c) 2000-2014 the FFmpeg developers |
| 17:06.10 | edoardo | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:06.14 | edoardo | :) |
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| 17:16.04 | mikeey | ok. we want to forward traffic through a GRE tunnel via certain ports, right now we're masquerading it using iptables, but apparently that gives us the GRE tunnel's endpoint as the source for all packets. how do we basically just redirect the traffic, and preserve original addressing? |
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| 17:17.00 | mikeey | that question might be more for #networking |
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| 17:17.03 | mikeey | I'll go ask there too |
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| 17:26.54 | macrobat | libav does everything ffmpeg used to do? |
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| 17:32.24 | petn-randall | edoardo: AFAIR you only need minimal changes in calling it to use libav. I'd just fix up your script. |
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| 17:35.04 | n13z | mikeey: Still here? |
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| 17:37.26 | sambagirl | good morning. i have my moms acer c720 chromebook i bought for her. i honestly don'd like chromeos. i was inquiring whether anyone here has installed debian desktop on a chromebook? if so is there a wiki i can look at as to the approach? thanks. |
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| 17:40.29 | asdfasdafas | im using virt-install with a preseed file, is it possible to specify the filename via --extra-args ? |
| 17:40.43 | asdfasdafas | im trying to not have to name it "preseed.cfg" since i have many preseed configs |
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| 17:42.03 | asdfasdafas | something like: virt-install [whatever] --initrd-inject /path/to/derp.cfg --extra-args "auto preseed/file=/derp.cfg" |
| 17:42.07 | Gforce | Hi, What does read /proc/kcore do?(as root) |
| 17:42.07 | heurist | sambagirl: I have heard people talking about installing Linux on Chromebooks, they appear to have been happy with the result. I have no experience with that hardware though. Surely you can try it, and reinstall chromeos if you are not happy with the result. Enough people have spoken about it in IRC that there must be mention on google. |
| 17:42.11 | asdfasdafas | if i name it preseed.cfg it works, if not, it doesnt |
| 17:43.20 | sambagirl | yes i did make a recovery image on a sandisk. i will give it a try but i need to have my plan of steps established first. thanks for the encouragement heurist |
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| 17:45.51 | heurist | Gforce: reading /proc/kcore will probably "hang" your system. it is an "image" of the systems memory (core dump format I think) and will therefore be too bog to fit in memory again. |
| 17:45.57 | Posterdati | hi |
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| 17:47.20 | Gforce | heurist:My systems using 500MB of Ram.I got 1.5GB free.So I guess it'll be no problem right?What is the info in it like? |
| 17:48.47 | babilen | Gforce: What are you trying to achieve? |
| 17:48.58 | n13z | babilen: hang the system |
| 17:49.00 | Gforce | heurist:entered that in shell.It's doing nothing! |
| 17:49.36 | Gforce | babilen:I'm trying to read forbidden parts of memory. |
| 17:50.10 | babilen | Whatfor? |
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| 17:50.24 | babilen | That sounds like an utterly unproductive thing to do |
| 17:50.29 | heurist | Gforce: read is not a shell command for looking at files. try cat instead. but you will need to slice that file and read just the bits you want else it will take forever. |
| 17:50.32 | hyper_ch | hi there, I noticed that crosscompiler for arm is gone on wheezy |
| 17:50.41 | Gforce | babilen: For fun. |
| 17:50.43 | hyper_ch | can't find gcc-arm-linux-gnueabi gcc-arm-linux-gnueabihf |
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| 17:51.37 | Gforce | heurist:How can I do that? |
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| 17:51.44 | n13z | Gforce: Do you know any "low level" programming language |
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| 17:52.08 | heurist | Gforce: don't (is that an answer?) |
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| 17:52.18 | Gforce | Did I miss anything? |
| 17:52.18 | n13z | erm... nvm |
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| 17:52.57 | marioxcc | hello. |
| 17:53.14 | n13z | Howdy, marioxcc |
| 17:53.34 | heurist | Gforce: yes, all the juicy answers happened while you where away, but they can not be repeated. |
| 17:53.34 | Gforce | heurist: But why?I wanna see it. |
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| 17:53.42 | marioxcc | does sysstat computes averages for each individual sampling period? at a glance, it seems that it just takes point samples. |
| 17:53.51 | heurist | Gforce: dd is probably your best bet. |
| 17:54.01 | Gforce | heurist:I got a net issue. |
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| 17:54.28 | Gforce | heurist:dd?I guess I'll prefer to let it go! |
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| 17:56.50 | marioxcc | does somebody know if sysstat takes averages for each individual sampling period or pointwise samples? |
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| 18:00.06 | n13z | marioxcc: did you read the sysstat FAQ? |
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| 18:01.03 | subzero_0 | my message is received ? |
| 18:01.39 | jelly-home | subzero_0: which message? |
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| 18:02.55 | subzero_0 | jelly-home:sorry, I was banned ... Now after registration .. my messages can be received |
| 18:03.09 | marioxcc | n13z: I did read the index and didn't find an answer, though maybe I missed it. |
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| 18:03.35 | Dreamix | subzero_0: cuz you're a bad guy :) |
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| 18:04.29 | subzero_0 | ^^ I took a lot of time to register I used /msg debian REGISTER instead of /msg NickServ REGISTER |
| 18:04.42 | subzero_0 | I'm stupid ! |
| 18:04.53 | Dreamix | cheers 4 debian :) |
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| 18:05.04 | jelly-home | subzero_0: we had temporary restrictions due to spam, sorry. If you /nickserv IDENTIFY from now on you'll be able to write even if that happens again |
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| 18:06.50 | Dreamix | Yeah just everyone will know your password :) |
| 18:07.16 | phre4k | is Debian 8 production ready and could be upgraded to the "final version" of 8? |
| 18:07.36 | phre4k | I mean, I saw the RC bugs and nearly none of them affect my setup |
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| 18:08.38 | wald0 | is there a way to force-assign my grub conf to use hd1 instead of hd0? the bios of this laptop seems to be really stupid |
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| 18:09.05 | phre4k | wald0: use UUIDs |
| 18:09.16 | wald0 | phre4k: disk, not partition |
| 18:09.30 | marioxcc | n13z: do you know if sar data points are instantaneous or averaneges from the previous data point? |
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| 18:09.48 | phre4k | wald0: oh, sry. Grub2 or legacy? I think Grub2 has something about that in the Arch Wiki, brb |
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| 18:10.04 | wald0 | grub2 |
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| 18:10.32 | wald0 | i need to tell him to use hd1 to boot from, even if the os see's it later at first, the bios says that is the second disk, and im unable to change it |
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| 18:11.17 | phre4k | wald0: hm, I can't seem to find it atm :o |
| 18:11.27 | phre4k | wald0: but there was a workaround iirc |
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| 18:11.49 | phre4k | wald0: maybe a firmware upgrade helps? |
| 18:12.15 | somiaj | wald0: what do you mean by force, you want your bios to boot off the second disk, or you want to install grub in the mbr of the second disk? (assume you are ussing legacy and not efi boot here) |
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| 18:14.15 | teritori | I started getting this message when I try to run a server that needs a port , debian Could not bind to Cannot assign requested address. Bu the thing is that no such ports are in use. any recommendation? |
| 18:14.30 | teritori | lsof -i does not show suhc ports being in use |
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| 18:15.06 | somiaj | teritori: it is saying address and not port in the message, could it be a config problem with the wrong ip in the config? |
| 18:15.32 | somiaj | teritori: Also have you looked at netstat to see if anythign is already listening on that port? |
| 18:15.41 | teritori | somiaj: i omitted the port and the address, they are just 127.0.0.1 |
| 18:15.54 | teritori | i have lo enabled |
| 18:16.47 | teritori | here is one FATAL: Cannot start GUI: listen tcp 127.0.0.1:8080: bind: cannot assign requested address |
| 18:17.32 | somiaj | Well to me it sounds like you have checked the standard things. Maybe ask the creators of said software they may have seen this issue before. |
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| 18:18.14 | teritori | somiaj: no, this works perfectly fine on 3 other debian jessies, this is one of them. I tried with other softwares that need local server add too |
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| 18:18.21 | wald0 | phre4k: seems like there's no firmware updates at all for this bios |
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| 18:19.11 | wald0 | somiaj: grub is installed in the mbr of the first disk (sda, hd0), which is correct when the OS is up and all... but the stupid bios thinks that the hard disk is the second device and not the first one |
| 18:19.22 | somiaj | wald0: care to explain your problem again, i.e. what is it that isn't working. Is grub able to load (does the bios boot form it correctly?), are you using legacy or efi mode, and is the issue grub cant boot off the rootfs or the bios won't boot grub? |
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| 18:19.46 | ubyntu | hi |
| 18:20.02 | somiaj | wald0: can you tell your bios to boot from that second disk, and then does grub at least boot? |
| 18:20.03 | wald0 | somiaj: by other side the bios is "able" to boot the second disk (i think) but since the grub is configured to load hd0 and on that moment it is hd1 (because bios thinks that is hd1), the boot fails and so im fallback to a boot-list-option-bios that dont boot anything |
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| 18:20.53 | somiaj | wald0: so grub isn't able to correctly find its grub.cfg file since the hd's names get switched at the boot process? |
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| 18:20.59 | wald0 | somiaj: in short, bios thinks that is hd1, but grubs configures it as hd0, so when it try's to load the conf it doesnt boot anything because hd0 points to an unexisting disk (on bios booting stage) |
| 18:21.22 | somiaj | teritori: well I am not seeing anything that could be the issue, only suggestion I would have is try to find out what is different between the two jessie boxes. Here I'm assuming they are all current and up to date. |
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| 18:21.25 | wald0 | somiaj: yeah, or maybe grub is loaded but it doesnt boot anything because it is assigned to hd0 and not hd1 |
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| 18:21.42 | wald0 | so i want to change my grub conf to use hd1 and not hd0 |
| 18:22.04 | somiaj | wald0: well once grub is loaded and can find its grub.cfg file you can use UUID's to tell grub what partition to boot from which will be fine |
| 18:22.07 | wald0 | but i dont want to grub generate a conf for the second hd because there's not another hd, i just need to fake the ID's |
| 18:22.17 | teritori | somiaj: yeah well I am suspecting that it is something to do with "lo" , I just did ifconfig lo up and it now works, why is that lo is not set up properly during boot, my question |
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| 18:22.39 | somiaj | wald0: so I think the issue is just making sure when you boot grub it can find it's config file |
| 18:22.39 | wald0 | somiaj: mmmh, then maybe grub simply doesn't loads at all |
| 18:22.54 | somiaj | wald0: or it fails to fully load since it isn't able to find its config file |
| 18:22.54 | wald0 | maybe the bios doesn't load the "second hd" |
| 18:23.23 | wald0 | and it is simply not possible to set the disks on the bios |
| 18:23.26 | wald0 | they are autodetected |
| 18:23.30 | somiaj | teritori: check /etc/network/interfaces on both machines, you should have botha definition for lo, 'iface lo inet loopback' and a line 'auto lo' to tell it to bring it up at boot |
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| 18:24.30 | teritori | somiaj: in fact that is the case |
| 18:24.34 | phre4k | can I ssh into a machine which just booted from a netinst image and finish the install or do I have to use keyboard and tft? |
| 18:24.39 | somiaj | wald0: yea I'm unsure exactly what you would ahve to configure to let grub know where the config file is |
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| 18:25.19 | somiaj | wald0: putting grub in the mbr of said disk is working, once grub loads its config fiel you can use UUID's so you should boot. That means that really you need to configure the content that gets put int the mbr so it finds the grub.cfg file on the correct misslabeled hd |
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| 18:25.30 | somiaj | wald0: another suggestion, have you tried plugging said HD into a different sata port? |
| 18:26.02 | somiaj | phre4k: yes and no. You need to have enough info to configure the network and run the ssh server on the installer |
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| 18:26.23 | somiaj | phre4k: once you do that (usually requires phyiscal access to the machine (though you may be able to do it with a preseed) you can ssh in and finish the install that way |
| 18:26.30 | phre4k | somiaj: so the SSH server isn't automatically started if the machine has eth0 link? |
| 18:26.42 | phre4k | ah okay, I think I'll go with preseed then |
| 18:27.06 | somiaj | yea you have to I think select language, locale, make sure it detects the network card (this could require firmware) bring the network up then run the ssh server |
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| 18:27.24 | somiaj | over all I think it requires user input like 4-5 times before you actually have the ssh server running (at least last time I tested) |
| 18:27.50 | wald0 | somiaj: its a laptop, and yeah i have tried to change settings like disabling usb, ahci, etc... to see if the sata ports are "correctly reassigned", no luck |
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| 18:28.24 | somiaj | wald0: and you don't have any usb drives pluged in when you are booting? I know sometimes laptops make those the first HD if they are detected. |
| 18:28.42 | wald0 | yeah i have tried to unplug it many times just like rmeoving battery, etc... |
| 18:28.48 | somiaj | wald0: but yea I'm out of ideas, I see where the issue is but don't know enough about the inner workings of grub to get it to work. |
| 18:29.01 | wald0 | if i only have a "reset bios" button that dont require to dissamble the computer... (damn) |
| 18:29.11 | wald0 | and yeah, re-load default settings in bios dont change anything |
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| 18:29.32 | somiaj | wald0: one other random piece of advise, is lilo still works |
| 18:29.34 | wald0 | in fact, i have now duplicated entries for each sata device (2 cdroms, 2 main-hd, 2 hd-fdd, 2 hd-cdrom... |
| 18:29.50 | somiaj | since it uses hard coded info about the hd it is booting from it may not run into the same issues grub is running into |
| 18:29.56 | wald0 | somiaj: tried lilo too and does not load |
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| 18:30.22 | somiaj | welp i'm out of ideas, maybe someone mcuh smarter than I will chime in (: |
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| 18:30.29 | wald0 | somiaj: the only way that i was able to load is to put a livecd, and from it try to boot device "hd1 0" (second hd), also, the hdi-tool (hardware something) lists it as second disk |
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| 18:30.47 | wald0 | somiaj: i dont think that you are not smarted, but the guy who wrote this bios.... dman |
| 18:31.10 | wald0 | seems like it uses a kind of cache "remember last assigned sata port for disks", wtf, no option to change them or reset them |
| 18:31.29 | somiaj | does grub load enough to at least give you a shell and you can manually boot it? |
| 18:31.37 | wald0 | and seems like linux when boots simply re-assigns correctly the disks to their correct location (whereas, sda & hd0) |
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| 18:31.46 | wald0 | somiaj: nope |
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| 18:32.19 | Janusz1 | Hi. Is there a way to change eth mac addr in netinstall? |
| 18:32.44 | somiaj | Janusz1: what do you mean? the mac addr is a hardware address on the device not in the installer? |
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| 18:34.35 | ocaso | Janusz1: maybe on a console using ifconfig |
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| 18:34.59 | Janusz1 | ocaso: there is no ifconfig on console in netinstaller |
| 18:35.37 | ocaso | what do you have to set up iface Janusz1? |
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| 18:36.03 | ocaso | Janusz1: do you have "ip" binary? |
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| 18:37.29 | Janusz1 | ok, I forgot about ip |
| 18:37.32 | Janusz1 | thanks |
| 18:37.38 | ocaso | (with ip binary: ip link ethX address a:b:c:d) |
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| 18:38.43 | ocaso | (ip link set ethxX address a:b:c:d) |
| 18:39.12 | Guest94202 | hi folks, im on a vps, and not able to upgrade the system to testing i get 'dpkg: error processing package udev (--configure): |
| 18:39.12 | Guest94202 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:40.03 | jhutchins_wk | Guest94202: The actual error is in the text before that. |
| 18:41.13 | Guest94202 | before that is http://pastebin.com/CPJ4LMyw |
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| 18:43.55 | jhutchins_wk | Guest94202: Looks like testing is broken today. |
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| 18:44.58 | jhutchins_wk | Guest94202: Also, I hope you made a backup before you upgraded. udev did not restart. |
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| 18:46.03 | jhutchins_wk | Guest94202: You might check in #debian-next on oftc.net to see if anybody knows specifics about this error. |
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| 18:51.10 | Guest94202 | is it caused by switching to testin on a wheezy vps? |
| 18:51.26 | Guest94202 | i can restart udev manualy |
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| 18:53.54 | jhutchins_wk | Guest94202: Well that's good, at least it starts. |
| 18:54.15 | jhutchins_wk | Guest94202: I don't think the fact that it's on a VPS is relevant, looks like errors in packaging. |
| 18:55.34 | jhutchins_wk | Guest94202: There's an init script that lacks the LSB headers that allow upstart to use it, and possibly something wrong with the udev package (udev could be the script). |
| 18:56.03 | jhutchins_wk | Guest94202: This is exactly the kind of thing you're testing for. |
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| 19:04.47 | Bullla | fuck Obama |
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| 20:06.05 | sahal` | openswan hangs during installation and i don't know why |
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| 20:20.22 | tbob | hello! does smb. know why using preseed, debian-installer still prompts for selecting ethernet card (though there is no and ethdetect entries are configured to disable this prompt)? |
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| 20:29.52 | tbob | any ideas about preseed and ethdetect prompt? |
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| 20:30.43 | unss7 | Anyone can use SPDIF after recent update? It seems to be broken |
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| 20:34.19 | tbob | hello? |
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| 20:34.39 | somiaj | tbob: do you have a debian support question, if so just ask. |
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| 20:34.58 | jhutchins_wk | unss7: Which release? |
| 20:35.52 | marioxcc | Hello |
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| 20:36.45 | marioxcc | Is there a command wrapper that I can use to redirect the output of a daemon to a file which supports rotating logs? |
| 20:37.15 | dondelelcaro | marioxcc: systemd will do that |
| 20:37.42 | somiaj | couldn't you also just configure logrotate to rotate the log file you have your daemon output to? |
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| 20:38.22 | dondelelcaro | yep |
| 20:38.40 | tbob | somiaj: I wrote about preseed and ethdetect - though network is disabled in preseed, debian installer still prompts to select the network card ("d-i ethdetect/prompt_missing_firmware boolean false", "d-i ethdetect/module_select select no ethernet card", "d-i netcfg/enable boolean false") |
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| 20:38.59 | marioxcc | somiaj: I'm affraid that the daemon is not logrotate-aware and hence may be disrupted by it. |
| 20:39.03 | somiaj | tbob: I'm not familar enough with preseeds to know the syntax or automate this. |
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| 20:39.25 | marioxcc | dondelelcaro: systemd comes with too much baggage, I don't think that it's a suitable solution. |
| 20:39.44 | dondelelcaro | well, it's a suitable solution if you're already running systemd |
| 20:39.44 | somiaj | marioxcc: I thought logrotate just dealt with the actual log file, does the daemon get upset if its log file has stuff removed and put somewhere else while it is running? |
| 20:40.14 | dondelelcaro | marioxcc: someone probably has written a wrapper which traps STDERR and STDOUT and sends it to syslog, which can then be rotated |
| 20:40.21 | marioxcc | somiaj: not that I know of, I think that it's append only. |
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| 20:40.31 | unss7 | Wheezy |
| 20:40.39 | marioxcc | the daemon uses only stdout and stderr output. |
| 20:41.03 | somiaj | marioxcc: and then that is redirected to a log file? I think logrotae could then rotate the logs in that file and the daemon won't even notice or care. |
| 20:41.05 | dondelelcaro | marioxcc: see courierlogger |
| 20:41.06 | marioxcc | I thought that logrotate moved the files, but now you seem to imply that it just deletes a part of it and then places that in other file. I will check |
| 20:41.07 | jhutchins_wk | unss7: Shouldn't be. |
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| 20:41.27 | somiaj | unss7: could it be your sound cards got detected in a different order on reboot? |
| 20:41.43 | marioxcc | thanks somiaj, dondelelcaro |
| 20:42.01 | phre4k | what files do I have to modify of a standard debian install for it to be able to be booted as VM with KVM? |
| 20:42.16 | marioxcc | phre4k: none that I know of. |
| 20:42.18 | dondelelcaro | but anyway, this is one of the many features of systemd. You might want to investigate it more completely. |
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| 20:42.30 | unss7 | somiaj: how can I check it? why would it even matter? |
| 20:42.45 | unss7 | I have two sound cards, one works, one with spdif doesn't |
| 20:42.47 | phre4k | marioxcc: so I just copied the files from bare metal to an ext4 partition and started the VM with the following command: |
| 20:42.48 | marioxcc | phre4k: do you want to boot an existing installation? or install it through KVM/QEMU? if it's the second, then you don't need to modify anything. I have already done that, and no modification was needed. |
| 20:43.05 | phre4k | virt-install --connect qemu:///system --virt-type kvm --name jungfeld-server --ram 3072 --disk /dev/system/jungfeld-server --network bridge=br0 --os-type linux --os-variant debianwheezy --import |
| 20:43.20 | phre4k | marioxcc: the 2nd |
| 20:43.35 | somiaj | unss7: Well depending on how your system is configured it could be defaulting to the wrong sound card. How are you testing your sound card with SPDIF? |
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| 20:43.59 | unss7 | It used to work fine until a week ago |
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| 20:44.20 | unss7 | I'm testing it by connecting an amp to the spdif output... |
| 20:44.35 | unss7 | it works fine on WIn |
| 20:44.38 | unss7 | windows |
| 20:44.50 | somiaj | During reboot cards are sometimes detected in different orders and that could make it so it isn't working because the software is not sending the info to the correct card, hence my question |
| 20:45.08 | marioxcc | phre4k: I think that you described the first (existing system) and then say "the 2nd". At any rate you might want to convert the raw data to qcow2 to be able to take snapshots. |
| 20:45.09 | somiaj | I'm not worried about the hardware, but is the software you are using configured to use the correct sound card |
| 20:45.31 | unss7 | somiaj: I can see the sound cards in the audio preferences.. |
| 20:45.51 | phre4k | marioxcc: I did a backup of a running system, copied the backup to a sole ext4 partition and now I want to install it in KVM |
| 20:45.52 | marioxcc | phre4k: but Be aware that it's easy to get a qcow2 image corrupted if you run qemu-img at the same time that the image is being used by a VM. You might want to write a wrapper that checks for that before allowing you to run qemu-img. |
| 20:45.52 | somiaj | unss7: are you using alsa or pulseaudio? |
| 20:45.59 | unss7 | but the spdif isn't even ON according to the amp |
| 20:46.11 | unss7 | unss7: How can I check that.. |
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| 20:46.21 | phre4k | marioxcc: I want to convert it to QCOW2 after I got it running. |
| 20:46.21 | somiaj | unss7: What kernel are you using in wheezy? |
| 20:46.26 | marioxcc | phre4k: well, I think that it will work without modification. |
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| 20:46.47 | somiaj | unss7: dpkg -l | grep pulseaudio (tells you if it is installed or not), ps fax | grep pulse (tells you if it is running or not) |
| 20:46.59 | unss7 | somiaj: 3.2.0-4-amd64 |
| 20:47.10 | phre4k | marioxcc: hm, but I can't seem to connect via virt-viewer. I think the network isn't configured right. |
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| 20:47.27 | phre4k | marioxcc: I don't even know if the system booted the right way :o |
| 20:47.36 | unss7 | somiaj: it's runnign |
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| 20:48.50 | somiaj | unss7: Okay, I don't use pulseaudio but it could be something with its configuration that have changed. One suggestion is install pavucontrol and see if you can set the default sound card and the likes. |
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| 20:49.07 | marioxcc | phre4k: take a look at the virtualized system terminal |
| 20:49.28 | somiaj | unss7: I can't think of anything that should have changed in wheezy to cause such an issue. Did the kernel have an update recentally? |
| 20:49.31 | marioxcc | phre4k: also, you won't be able to use ping from/to the guest by default. |
| 20:49.45 | phre4k | marioxcc: okay but how do I find the terminal? |
| 20:49.59 | phre4k | marioxcc: since I can't connect via virt-viewer I can't see anything |
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| 20:50.14 | phre4k | I use virt-viewer on the host system btw |
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| 20:50.38 | marioxcc | phre4k: I have no idea. I use QEMU directly and a windows spawns by default as long as the system is running. |
| 20:50.42 | marioxcc | that's what I use. |
| 20:51.16 | phre4k | marioxcc: well it's on a headless server :'( |
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| 20:54.11 | marioxcc | somiaj: apparently the daemon would have to be logrotate-aware. I checked some scripts in /etc/logrotate.d |
| 20:54.33 | marioxcc | what would happen if I rotated the stdout file of a non-logrotate aware daemon? |
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| 20:59.48 | Iridos | marioxcc, try it out... the filesize stays constant, everything that logrotate moved is 0s because the process keeps writing at the same position... nothing to do with the daemon or debian, though |
| 21:00.13 | marioxcc | Iridos: what do you mean by "stays constant"? |
| 21:00.17 | Iridos | and logrotate therefore usually restarts |
| 21:00.33 | marioxcc | what will happen when logrotate moves the output of the program in question? |
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| 21:00.41 | Iridos | I think the rest of the sentence explains that :) |
| 21:00.45 | marioxcc | (which isn't logrotate aware) |
| 21:00.46 | Iridos | both questions |
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| 21:01.25 | Iridos | and the daemon doesn't have to be "aware"... whatever that means... it just hast to be stopped and started again by logrotate |
| 21:01.42 | marioxcc | Iridos: that's not possible. |
| 21:01.56 | marioxcc | also, AFAIK, the log doesn't get zero-ed, but truncated or modified. |
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| 21:02.13 | marioxcc | I have never seen thousands of bytes "0" in my logs. |
| 21:02.14 | Iridos | well, if you don't believe me then try it out as I suggested |
| 21:02.37 | marioxcc | the problem is that trying out won't make sure that there are no uncommon race conitions which will crash the daemon. |
| 21:02.37 | Iridos | behavior might have changed since I last looked.... I doubt it, though |
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| 21:02.53 | marioxcc | It's not that I don't believe you, but that I don't understand what you said. |
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| 21:04.06 | Iridos | hmm, actually I'm not sure about it anymore myself... it's a really long time that I tried |
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| 21:04.28 | Iridos | reason says that the process would keep writing into the file if it is just deleted |
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| 21:05.01 | Iridos | a file cannot be deleted while a process is still writing to it... you can see that with df |
| 21:05.03 | marioxcc | Iridos: AFAIK, that's not the case. From what I saw, logrotate sends SIGHUP or calls a script with informs the program. |
| 21:05.32 | Iridos | yes... in some way or other, the file has to be closed and then a file of the same name opened again |
| 21:05.34 | marioxcc | (I mean, that the process keep writing to a deleted file, or creates a new one with that path, for that matter) |
| 21:05.47 | marioxcc | Iridos: that's the problem, the daemon has no way to close the file. |
| 21:06.00 | Iridos | it has if it's killed ... |
| 21:06.08 | Iridos | but if you cannot do that, you cannot move away logs |
| 21:06.13 | marioxcc | Like I said, that's not possible. |
| 21:06.25 | marioxcc | well, is there a wrapper program that may do that? |
| 21:06.31 | Iridos | well, then you cannot rotate logs |
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| 21:06.53 | Iridos | you could of course log via rsyslog... |
| 21:07.17 | marioxcc | yes, but that'd add more complexity to the logistics |
| 21:07.39 | marioxcc | and this proccess may send crap, and I don't want my syslogd overwhelmed by that crap. |
| 21:07.40 | Iridos | more complexity + works vs. less complexity + doesn't work |
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| 21:08.43 | marioxcc | Iridos: well, like I said, complexity isn't the only problem, but thanks at any rate. |
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| 21:27.19 | Kobra | does anyone else think that nginx should not have the default site on by default (/etc/nginx/sites-enabled/default should be unlinked)? |
| 21:27.25 | Iridos | marioxcc, actually... just tried it... if you *just* keep writing to the file, the logrotate will move the file to a new name and your process will keep writing to the same file under the new name, ignoring the newly created one |
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| 21:28.22 | marioxcc | Iridos: oh, cool, thanks for checking. |
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| 21:29.11 | Iridos | guess that makes sense... not sure what variant I remembered... |
| 21:29.29 | marioxcc | Iridos: variant? |
| 21:29.56 | Iridos | off killing/restarting/moving on rotation |
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| 21:30.28 | Iridos | (which left me with zero-filled files) |
| 21:30.45 | Iridos | might have been solaris... it's a long time ago |
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| 21:36.19 | xingu | Iridos: zerofilled files would require a new logfile to be openned without the file offset being reset; I've also encountered it under solaris, but from memory I think it was actually just plain buggy behaviour in the application |
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| 21:38.47 | xingu | Iridos: I don't recall if freopen(3) resets file offset; that'd be one avenue for such a bug to creep in. |
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| 21:39.46 | Dixi___ | abrotman: werent you quite familiar with juniper switches? |
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| 21:40.05 | Dixi___ | I think weve had talks about that |
| 21:41.15 | abrotman | Dixi___: doubtful, and not a topic for this channel |
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| 21:51.16 | marioxcc | hello |
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| 21:51.59 | marioxcc | what's the proper way to set user/group disk quotas in the / FS of a remote server. (I can't take the disk out and remout it somewhere else to run quotacheck read-only) |
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| 21:53.26 | somiaj | you have to configure that on the remote server |
| 21:53.37 | somiaj | (as far as I know) as that is what is in charge of the file system |
| 21:54.04 | marioxcc | somiaj: yes, but I have to run "quotacheck" and the man page say that it's better to have the filesystem read-only |
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| 21:55.19 | SuperPhly | Default debian 7 (wheezy) install, how do I disable rpcbind for good? 1/2 the documentation tells me to use update-rc.d while insserv/service both come up other places. |
| 21:55.19 | mofino | marioxcc, if the FS isn't read-only, the numbers are just slightly off |
| 21:55.54 | marioxcc | mofino: ok, that's not a problem for me. |
| 21:55.59 | mofino | marioxcc, yeah same here |
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| 21:56.26 | mofino | any writes that come in while the quota database is being rebuilt won't be calculated |
| 21:57.10 | marioxcc | ok |
| 21:57.45 | abrotman | SuperPhly: if you don't need it, remove the portmap package |
| 21:57.51 | abrotman | SuperPhly: beware what else it removes |
| 21:58.19 | SuperPhly | portmap isn't installed, it's rpcbind, is that the same? |
| 21:58.32 | mantsid | Hi, i have an issue with apache load. Debian have avg load of 7 and Centos, with same (almost) setup, only 1.5 |
| 21:58.32 | mofino | SuperPhly, yeah pretty much |
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| 21:59.04 | mofino | mantsid, both are linux |
| 21:59.42 | mantsid | :) |
| 21:59.44 | mofino | mantsid, you can try adding the redhat kernel patches to debian's kernel |
| 22:00.12 | abrotman | mantsid: I'd guess something else is the problem, look at what's causing the load |
| 22:00.24 | mantsid | abrotman: that's the problem |
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| 22:00.27 | mofino | i suppose i'm assuming everything is identical |
| 22:00.34 | abrotman | Why woudl you assume that? |
| 22:00.39 | abrotman | they don't even have the same kernel versions |
| 22:00.41 | mofino | saves time |
| 22:01.00 | abrotman | great help |
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| 22:01.09 | abrotman | mofino: use things like top to gauge what is taking the load |
| 22:01.13 | mofino | it's a pretty wide problem |
| 22:01.29 | mantsid | abrotman: no io wait, only cpu bound |
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| 22:01.49 | mantsid | but even several cpu's are idle |
| 22:02.01 | abrotman | mantsid: then what's taking the CPU of th eone that ishaving problems |
| 22:02.12 | abrotman | holy spacebarman |
| 22:02.13 | mofino | are you in a VM? |
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| 22:02.20 | mantsid | no, bare metal |
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| 22:02.32 | Shadow_7 | mantsid: same iron between the comparison? |
| 22:02.37 | mantsid | yes |
| 22:02.41 | mofino | you're seeing a load of 7, how many CPUs? |
| 22:02.45 | mantsid | 24 |
| 22:02.56 | mofino | ok, and you see roughly 700% usage? |
| 22:02.59 | mantsid | but only 16 cpus are used |
| 22:03.11 | abrotman | mantsid: uname -a ? |
| 22:03.15 | mantsid | 1sec |
| 22:03.22 | Shadow_7 | mantsid: any variations like 64 bit versus 32 bit? |
| 22:03.28 | mantsid | Linux web159 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.63-2+deb7u1 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 22:03.34 | mantsid | nope |
| 22:03.41 | mofino | mantsid, which kernel was cent? |
| 22:03.46 | mantsid | 1sec |
| 22:03.58 | mantsid | Linux web158 2.6.32-358.el6.x86_64 #1 SMP Fri Feb 22 00:31:26 UTC 2013 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 22:04.13 | mofino | highly different |
| 22:04.24 | mofino | but still shouldn't see what you are seeing |
| 22:04.29 | mantsid | exactly |
| 22:04.31 | mantsid | :| |
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| 22:04.34 | mofino | same data? |
| 22:04.40 | mantsid | yes |
| 22:04.47 | mofino | how are both online? shared? |
| 22:04.59 | mantsid | they both have same traffic from nginx |
| 22:05.04 | mantsid | 50/50 |
| 22:05.10 | mofino | alright that's not a real test |
| 22:05.27 | mantsid | it's about req/s |
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| 22:05.31 | mantsid | for 1 |
| 22:05.31 | mofino | no |
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| 22:05.38 | mofino | that's a terrible way to test this |
| 22:05.57 | vampi-the-frog | how can I view images with 256-color terminals? |
| 22:05.59 | mantsid | why? |
| 22:06.03 | Shadow_7 | same filesystems I assume? did you also check RAM usage? |
| 22:06.07 | mofino | put traffic to one machine for several days and take the statistics |
| 22:06.15 | vampi-the-frog | I'm just tired at squinting |
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| 22:06.16 | mofino | do the same for the other |
| 22:06.19 | vampi-the-frog | s/at/of/ |
| 22:06.22 | mantsid | mofino: i tried for 30min |
| 22:06.26 | mofino | that's not enough |
| 22:06.27 | mantsid | Centos: load ~4 |
| 22:06.34 | mantsid | Devian: load 26 |
| 22:06.41 | mofino | unless you are sure your traffic patterns are the same between tests |
| 22:06.48 | mantsid | they are |
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| 22:06.58 | mantsid | and it's not a test |
| 22:07.08 | mantsid | they serve real data for real users |
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| 22:07.15 | mofino | disk arrays are the same? |
| 22:07.24 | mantsid | yes |
| 22:07.24 | mofino | or is this shared data? |
| 22:07.34 | Shadow_7 | mantsid: any cpufreq stuff happening? did you compare power usage statistics? |
| 22:07.46 | mofino | Shadow_7, what does power have to do with anything |
| 22:07.51 | mantsid | they are seperate machines, both dell poweredge g8 |
| 22:08.02 | Shadow_7 | mofino: if they 700% and running at half speed. |
| 22:08.06 | mofino | mantsid, how is the data the same? |
| 22:08.13 | abrotman | mantsid: same bios revisions? |
| 22:08.17 | mofino | Shadow_7, 700% just matches a load of 7 that isn't IO bound |
| 22:08.28 | mantsid | abrotman: yes |
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| 22:08.40 | abrotman | mantsid: Are you seeing issues because of hte load? |
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| 22:09.11 | mantsid | just switched from centos to debian and it began, when there was centos tey both had equal load |
| 22:09.32 | mofino | doesn't make sense though |
| 22:09.50 | mofino | what are the loadavgs right now |
| 22:09.55 | mantsid | 1sec |
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| 22:10.13 | mofino | and this is same application running both sides? |
| 22:10.25 | mofino | running on* |
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| 22:10.50 | mantsid | yes, this is 1 app. they sits behind nginx |
| 22:10.58 | mofino | ok i understand now |
| 22:11.01 | mantsid | current load: 2.5 vs 6 |
| 22:11.30 | mantsid | i have looked at strace |
| 22:11.41 | mantsid | and there is one diff |
| 22:11.58 | mantsid | but i guess it's centos vs debian |
| 22:12.14 | mofino | what appears to be taking longer on the debian side? |
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| 22:12.28 | mofino | are your processes always running? |
| 22:12.51 | mofino | or are new forks/threads being created? |
| 22:13.21 | mantsid | centos uses read and debian uses recvfrom |
| 22:13.28 | mofino | just trying to understand how raw computation would be different between them, doesn't really make sense |
| 22:13.43 | mofino | yeah but that's not going to cause you to be CPU bound |
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| 22:14.11 | mantsid | yeah, but this was the first diff to see |
| 22:14.25 | mofino | keep in mind the kernels are completely different |
| 22:14.44 | mofino | well, largely different |
| 22:14.45 | mantsid | basicly i have no idea what can couse so high load for this small amount of work |
| 22:15.13 | mantsid | do i need to try another kernel |
| 22:15.15 | mantsid | i dont knwo |
| 22:15.24 | mofino | yeah, i mean, something doesn't sound right |
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| 22:15.38 | mofino | sounds like an application issue |
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| 22:16.00 | mantsid | while looking at strace, there seem like everything is right |
| 22:16.12 | mofino | strace doesn't tell you anything |
| 22:16.17 | mofino | that's just system calls to the kernel |
| 22:16.22 | abrotman | it tells you plenty, if you have a rough idea of what you're lookking for |
| 22:16.32 | mofino | doesn't tell you about computation slowdowns |
| 22:16.34 | mantsid | a have to start from somewhere |
| 22:16.42 | mofino | ok, but it doesn't explain CPU usage |
| 22:16.44 | mofino | just system calls |
| 22:17.08 | mofino | if a program is in while loop, you'll never see that |
| 22:17.14 | mofino | a* |
| 22:17.23 | mantsid | no, it's web requests |
| 22:17.27 | mofino | oh lord |
| 22:17.39 | abrotman | mofino: actually, it can |
| 22:17.43 | mofino | abrotman, how |
| 22:17.49 | abrotman | mofino: timeouts for various operations |
| 22:17.57 | mofino | abrotman, that's not computation |
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| 22:18.15 | abrotman | Yo don't know that .. it depends how the app handles a bad request |
| 22:18.29 | mofino | abrotman, strace is for kernel system calls |
| 22:18.36 | abrotman | ... |
| 22:18.46 | mofino | abrotman, he is having a CPU bound problem |
| 22:19.05 | mofino | you can see calls leading up to the problem |
| 22:19.08 | abrotman | Yes. You didn't understand my statement, but I'm not going to argue with you when someone actually needs help |
| 22:19.10 | mantsid | but page generation times is as usual |
| 22:19.15 | mofino | but you can't see the computation bottleneck |
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| 22:19.52 | mofino | mantsid, anyway dude, i can't help you, the platforms are too different to compare, perhaps it's best you stick with that version of cent |
| 22:20.16 | mantsid | yah, this is one of options |
| 22:20.20 | mofino | or choose a newer version which matches better with debian and make a comparason |
| 22:20.30 | mofino | newer cent that is |
| 22:20.40 | mantsid | i understood |
| 22:20.49 | abrotman | mantsid: what kind of application is this? just a web app? no other dependencies? |
| 22:21.07 | mantsid | the main diff is libmemcached versions |
| 22:21.21 | mantsid | abrotman: php memc, redis, mysql |
| 22:21.39 | abrotman | so not a simple app at all, and none of those components are showing a spiked load? |
| 22:21.42 | mantsid | but, tried to downgrade php to 5.3, same results |
| 22:21.59 | mofino | are you running php 5.4 on cent? |
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| 22:22.41 | mantsid | mofino: no, 5.3 |
| 22:22.49 | mofino | mantsid, debian is running? 5.4? |
| 22:22.54 | mantsid | right |
| 22:23.16 | mofino | under fastcgi or as modules? |
| 22:23.25 | mantsid | as modules |
| 22:23.34 | mantsid | with prefork.. |
| 22:23.40 | mantsid | with same settings |
| 22:23.50 | mofino | yeah i dunno man |
| 22:24.16 | mofino | try a newer cent, if it has a 3.2+ kernel and is faster than debian, maybe those redhat patches are helping... |
| 22:24.24 | mofino | but i doubt it |
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| 22:24.35 | abrotman | it won't, only cent7 has a 3.x kernel |
| 22:24.42 | mofino | interesting |
| 22:24.43 | abrotman | He can try a newer kernel in Debiann though |
| 22:24.50 | abrotman | dpkg: tell mantsid about backports |
| 22:24.52 | mantsid | abrotman: which one? |
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| 22:24.55 | mofino | yeah but that's still not a fair comparason |
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| 22:25.09 | mofino | but maybe there is something wrong with 3.2... so who knows |
| 22:25.16 | abrotman | I don't think he cares about the comparison and much as the performance in general ? |
| 22:25.22 | mantsid | :) |
| 22:25.28 | abrotman | (still not sure why a load of 7 is a problem for a 24core box) |
| 22:25.30 | mofino | mantsid, install debian squeeze |
| 22:25.44 | mantsid | abrotman: this is not a problem, just it is not right |
| 22:25.45 | mofino | mantsid, ahh nevermind, you'll get php 5.2 which is slower |
| 22:26.12 | mofino | abrotman, it's trying to explain the source of the apparent overhead |
| 22:26.15 | abrotman | mantsid: Right, so try to find the source of the CPU issues .. top/mpstat/CPu tools |
| 22:26.18 | mantsid | mofino: tried 5.3 from squeeze, same result |
| 22:26.19 | mantsid | mofino: tried 5.3 from squeeze, same results |
| 22:26.37 | mofino | mantsid, yeah that's weird |
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| 22:26.55 | mofino | redhat patches!!111 |
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| 22:27.20 | mantsid | abrotman: looked at centos/debian apache cpu usage. and debian show even bit smaller cpu usage at fork.. |
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| 22:28.02 | mofino | are you tracking the CPU stats in a graph at all? |
| 22:28.10 | mantsid | yeah |
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| 22:28.23 | mofino | the debian system is consuming twice as much? |
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| 22:28.43 | mantsid | no... not even clouse |
| 22:28.46 | mofino | OH |
| 22:29.00 | mofino | well that changes things doesn't it |
| 22:29.07 | mofino | :) |
| 22:29.18 | mofino | so maybe redhat patches aren't so hot |
| 22:29.18 | mantsid | mofino: please, tell me more :) |
| 22:29.30 | mofino | mantsid, are you graphing IO wait? |
| 22:29.48 | mantsid | yah |
| 22:29.57 | mofino | how do they compare? |
| 22:29.59 | mofino | both 0? |
| 22:30.26 | mantsid | mofino: looking at cacti, centos have 1 or 2, debian - 0 |
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| 22:30.31 | mofino | da fuck |
| 22:30.57 | mofino | might be the way loadavg is being expressed |
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| 22:31.23 | mofino | i don't know |
| 22:31.38 | mofino | you are seeing lower resource usage on the debian side |
| 22:31.57 | mofino | load average just means how many processes are waiting |
| 22:32.04 | mantsid | oh, another interesting point: some of cpus are without load at all |
| 22:32.12 | mofino | yes of course |
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| 22:32.30 | mantsid | but centos load is ±equal on all of cpus |
| 22:32.54 | mofino | a 2.5 load average typically means 2.5 cores at 100% |
| 22:33.02 | mofino | or the equivalent across all cores |
| 22:33.16 | mofino | to me anyway, i might be wrong |
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| 22:33.31 | mofino | IO bound apps will show up waiting as well |
| 22:33.33 | mantsid | i think you are right |
| 22:33.45 | mofino | but you don't see 700% cpu usage in debian? |
| 22:33.51 | mofino | to match the load of 7? |
| 22:34.10 | mofino | might need to use atop instead of top |
| 22:34.18 | mantsid | mofino: where i can see 700? |
| 22:34.23 | mantsid | oh |
| 22:34.29 | mantsid | ok, i sec |
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| 22:35.42 | mantsid | CPU | sys 54% | user 335% | irq 27% |
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| 22:36.05 | mofino | ok, load takes time to update |
| 22:36.18 | mofino | but it looks like it's roughly the same as cent |
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| 22:37.24 | mofino | probably another bottleneck / issue causing the load average to appear higher |
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| 22:37.52 | mofino | but raw resource use seems to be the same |
| 22:38.00 | mantsid | ok, updated info: |
| 22:38.03 | mantsid | Centos: CPU | sys 167% | user 690% | irq66% |
| 22:38.12 | mantsid | Debian: CPU | sys 58% | user 354% | irq 26% |
| 22:38.29 | mofino | would need to average it over time |
| 22:38.37 | mantsid | oh, ok |
| 22:38.38 | `Kevin | iostat -xm 2 show high disk util % ? |
| 22:38.38 | mofino | for it to be fair |
| 22:38.58 | `Kevin | would attribute to load avg as well |
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| 22:39.29 | mofino | `Kevin: his IO wait is a bit lower on the debian side even |
| 22:39.40 | mofino | doesn't seem to be a factor |
| 22:39.46 | mantsid | avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle 13.80 0.00 3.01 0.00 0.00 83.19 |
| 22:39.49 | mofino | i think it's just how the load average value is being reported |
| 22:39.49 | mantsid | Device: rrqm/s wrqm/s r/s w/s rMB/s wMB/s avgrq-sz avgqu-sz await r_await w_await svctm %util |
| 22:39.52 | mantsid | sda 0.00 0.00 0.00 1.00 0.00 0.02 32.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 |
| 22:40.04 | mofino | yeah... nothing |
| 22:40.09 | mofino | everything is in ram |
| 22:40.20 | mantsid | yes, disk access hurts :) |
| 22:40.27 | mofino | first line of iostat is the average since the system started, i believe |
| 22:40.46 | mantsid | avg-cpu: %user %nice %system %iowait %steal %idle 10.11 0.00 2.51 0.01 0.00 87.37 |
| 22:41.01 | mantsid | from the system started |
| 22:41.24 | mofino | lots of idle |
| 22:41.26 | mantsid | ok guys, thank you for your hekp |
| 22:41.32 | mofino | have a good one |
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| 22:41.55 | gzcwnk | :) |
| 22:42.03 | mantsid | will try something |
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| 22:42.30 | Prezident | You guys fucking rock! :) |
| 22:42.32 | Prezident | Good job. |
| 22:42.34 | Prezident | =) |
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| 23:01.56 | Kobra | hmmm, you know Nginx and how /etc/nginx/sites-availible/default is enabled by default; what do i do if i have makefile installing into nginx, that conflicts with the default? |
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| 23:10.05 | Bl4ckSh4d0w | hello |
| 23:10.21 | SirCmpwn | I skipped non-free firmware during install, and now my system is up and running |
| 23:10.33 | SirCmpwn | I need that firmware now - how can I list what firmware is missing? |
| 23:10.57 | wols_ | maybe dmesg will tell you what you are missing |
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| 23:11.11 | wols_ | the main ones are for wlan and videocards. so what kinds do you have there? |
| 23:11.23 | SirCmpwn | neither, I need something for my ethernet card |
| 23:11.41 | wols_ | and which card would that be? |
| 23:11.49 | wols_ | rather, which chip? |
| 23:11.54 | SirCmpwn | oh, nevermind |
| 23:11.59 | SirCmpwn | wait, what |
| 23:12.05 | Bl4ckSh4d0w | ? |
| 23:12.07 | SirCmpwn | sorry, confused for a second there |
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| 23:12.23 | SirCmpwn | dmesg | grep firmware tells me that it needs rtl_nic/rt1815e-2.fw |
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| 23:12.33 | SirCmpwn | is there a package for that or do I have to go download it myself |
| 23:12.53 | SirCmpwn | rtl815e-2.fw * |
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| 23:13.03 | cafuego | SirCmpwn: apt-cache search firmware |
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| 23:13.14 | SirCmpwn | did that a minute ago and found nothing interesting |
| 23:13.16 | cafuego | SirCmpwn: It's a single apckage that contains a bunch of them |
| 23:13.20 | SirCmpwn | do I need to enable a different repo? |
| 23:13.25 | SirCmpwn | oh, a single package, humm |
| 23:13.26 | cafuego | SirCmpwn: Is non-free present in your sources.list? |
| 23:13.59 | SirCmpwn | nope |
| 23:14.10 | cafuego | ,info firmware-linux-nonfree |
| 23:14.11 | judd | Package firmware-linux-nonfree (non-free/kernel, optional) in wheezy/i386: Binary firmware for various drivers in the Linux kernel. Version: 0.36+wheezy.1; Size: 652.4k; Installed: 1527k; Homepage: http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/firmware/linux-firmware.git |
| 23:14.20 | cafuego | that's the one you want |
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| 23:14.34 | SirCmpwn | okay |
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| 23:14.46 | SirCmpwn | how do I add nonfree to my sources.list? I'm not incredibly familiar with debian |
| 23:15.19 | SirCmpwn | ah, found some docs for that |
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| 23:16.45 | SirCmpwn | it's all good now, thanks cafuego |
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| 23:20.03 | vampi-the-frog | is there a way to hide the prompt in 'less'? |
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| 23:20.45 | SirCmpwn | /etc/init.d/networking restart tells me it's deprecated but doesn't tell me what the replacement is |
| 23:21.02 | SirCmpwn | that's a pretty useful piece of software, that |
| 23:23.06 | teraflops | ifdown && ifup SirCmpwn |
| 23:23.36 | SirCmpwn | missing a -a |
| 23:23.38 | SirCmpwn | thanks! |
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| 23:24.38 | SirCmpwn | and now more problems, joy |
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| 23:26.03 | sparr | I want to patch the source to a program and then build a copy of it that is otherwise identical to the packaged version. How can I make sure I get all the configure options and such correct? |
| 23:26.25 | SirCmpwn | here's my /etc/network/interfaces - eth0 doesn't get an IP address according to `ip a` and I can't do anything with it: https://gist.github.com/SirCmpwn/4e7ef86c92eb2a1af0dc |
| 23:26.59 | treah | sparr - the readme or compile documentation file included in the source is always helpfull |
| 23:27.12 | treah | sparr, or you can always do a ./configure --help |
| 23:27.33 | sparr | treah: I don't care what the configure options are or what they do, I just want to match the options used to build the package originally |
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| 23:28.23 | somiaj | SirCmpwn: does it work if you 'ifup eth0' -- if so add an 'auto eth0' line to make it automatically brought up at boot |
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| 23:28.37 | SirCmpwn | no, it doesn't |
| 23:28.53 | somiaj | what happens when you ifup eth0, I don't see anything wrong with your file |
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| 23:29.16 | Shadow_7 | not line for broadcast, but shouldn't really be a show stopper |
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| 23:29.40 | somiaj | yea I thikn you can get away with only an address line if you accept default gateways |
| 23:29.54 | Shadow_7 | SirCmpwn: could be a firmware issue. What is the hardware in question? |
| 23:30.06 | somiaj | SirCmpwn: is name servers not working, could it be you need to modify your /etc/resolv.conf to point to a nameserver, or can you not ping your gateway after you 'ifup eth0' |
| 23:30.07 | SirCmpwn | ifup eth0 has no output |
| 23:30.13 | somiaj | that means it works |
| 23:30.14 | SirCmpwn | as for the hardware in question, remind me how to fin dout |
| 23:30.23 | somiaj | SirCmpwn: now ping 192.168.1.1 -- does that work? |
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| 23:30.25 | Shadow_7 | SirCmpwn: lspci -nn |
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| 23:30.40 | SirCmpwn | I can ping the gateway |
| 23:30.41 | Shadow_7 | or lsusb depending on the hardware |
| 23:30.55 | somiaj | SirCmpwn: it is working just fine then |
| 23:31.02 | SirCmpwn | ethernet is realtek RTL811/8168B |
| 23:31.05 | somiaj | SirCmpwn: if you want it to be brought up at boot use 'auto eth0' |
| 23:31.09 | SirCmpwn | oh, I have an address now |
| 23:31.14 | SirCmpwn | what the heck happened earlier |
| 23:31.21 | somiaj | SirCmpwn: if you can't ping names, like ping google.com you need to add a nameserver to /etc/resolv.conf |
| 23:31.29 | SirCmpwn | DNS works fine, thanks |
| 23:31.37 | somiaj | SirCmpwn: do you run network manager or wicd? |
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| 23:31.46 | SirCmpwn | whatever comes with debian, I just finished installing |
| 23:31.51 | SirCmpwn | this is headless, fwiw |
| 23:32.03 | SirCmpwn | hence the static IP, hee hee |
| 23:32.03 | Shadow_7 | if you're using interfaces, you're probably not using nm or wicd |
| 23:32.10 | SirCmpwn | it works fine now, thanks guys |
| 23:32.26 | somiaj | SirCmpwn: yea just add the auto eth0 line so it is brought up at boot and you should be fine. |
| 23:32.41 | SirCmpwn | yeah, I did |
| 23:32.43 | SirCmpwn | thanks |
| 23:32.46 | SirCmpwn | you can stop being helpful now |
| 23:37.16 | teraflops | xD |
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| 23:42.03 | Elvano | Hey lot. I have a little problem. I just upgraded my kernel to 3.10 on my wheezy and... well, I have no longer any network connection <.< |
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| 23:42.32 | Elvano | Any idea on how to fix this? |
| 23:42.34 | Guest94202 | Elvano: did u reboot? |
| 23:42.40 | Elvano | Yea |
| 23:42.52 | Guest94202 | what says ifconfig |
| 23:43.04 | Elvano | It only detects the lo interface |
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| 23:43.19 | Guest94202 | did u used wlan? |
| 23:43.42 | Elvano | While upgrading? Yes |
| 23:43.55 | Guest94202 | try sudo ifconfig wlan0 up |
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| 23:46.14 | Elvano | now ifconfig shows the other interfaces ;o |
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| 23:46.54 | Guest94202 | ^^ ok and do you got inet? |
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| 23:49.24 | Elvano | Nope, they don't even seem to have an ip address assigned, Guest94202 |
| 23:49.52 | Guest94202 | mhh |
| 23:50.05 | Elvano | I use dhcp, not static, btw |
| 23:50.21 | Guest94202 | did u try to restart dhcp? |
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| 23:50.42 | Elvano | haven't yet |
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| 23:52.39 | Elvano | "dhclient -r", right? |
| 23:52.50 | Elvano | Doesn't work =/ |
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| 23:53.02 | marioxcc | Hello |
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| 23:54.05 | marioxcc | I am interested in limiting the disk usage of only a single user. When doing quotacheck, is there a way that I can specify this user only? |
| 23:54.28 | marioxcc | I know that quota can be disabled for the rest, but I see no point in computing the current usage of the other users. |
| 23:55.11 | Guest94202 | Elvano: maybe sudo service networking restart |
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| 23:56.02 | Guest94202 | Elvano: but first do u got wicd? |
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| 23:58.46 | Elvano | I never installed it intentionally, Guest94202 |
| 23:59.03 | Guest94202 | Elvano: or ethtool? |
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