| 00:00.08 | Pixionus | Just thought of something. Ill plug back into windows and see what it recogs it as |
| 00:00.12 | OneST8 | VlperX: sorry, try that again `sudo lsof -i -n` ... that should be less wordy and port 22 should be easier to recognize |
| 00:00.21 | OneST8 | Pixionus: great idea :) |
| 00:00.58 | VlperX | I don' |
| 00:01.05 | VlperX | i don't even know what i'm looking for |
| 00:01.16 | VlperX | and this hyper-v window is tiny |
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| 00:01.52 | OneST8 | is afk |
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| 00:06.48 | Pixionus | No luck. Every keyboard I have tried so far doesn't know what it is looking at and windows sees it as a group of 4 HID's with generic Microsoft drivers |
| 00:07.42 | somiaj | sounds like you have somethign strange going on, what aws the output of xmodmap? |
| 00:07.58 | somiaj | again I'm assuming something is running capturing the events and not passing them correctly |
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| 00:09.11 | Pinchiukas | I'll pretty much get Debian 8 if I install testing now as it's already frozen? |
| 00:09.32 | factor | I downloaded the 3 DVD's for 7.7 and I cant seem to find evolution-MAPI package in them , it was in the 7.4 I had. Shoudl it be in 7.7 |
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| 00:09.41 | somiaj | Pinchiukas: yes you get it with all the current bugs, and no security support. But it does work. |
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| 00:09.59 | Pinchiukas | somiaj: and I get that after 8 gets released, right? :) |
| 00:10.03 | somiaj | ,v evolution-mapi |
| 00:10.04 | judd | Package: evolution-mapi on i386 -- wheezy: 3.4.4-1; jessie: 3.12.7-1; sid: 3.12.7-1 |
| 00:10.23 | somiaj | Pinchiukas: correct, ocne all the rc bugs are removed and they release 8, then it will have full security support as stable |
| 00:10.27 | Pixionus | http://pastebin.com/sTXDRgpQ |
| 00:10.34 | Pinchiukas | Cool! |
| 00:10.46 | Pixionus | somiaj: ^ |
| 00:10.46 | somiaj | factor: I'm unsure what dvd it would be on, but you can get it from the online sources just fine it seems |
| 00:11.21 | somiaj | Pixionus: that looks normal, maybe lets look at some xev output |
| 00:11.37 | somiaj | Pixionus: you asid it was ctrl and alt not working |
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| 00:11.53 | factor | somiaj: Yes I found it online, but wondering why it was not in the latest DVD release. |
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| 00:12.25 | somiaj | Pixionus: http://paste.debian.net/133540/ that is what I get when I press CTRL (I get a lot of noise so I had to look for it in the noise) |
| 00:12.36 | Pixionus | No matter what I change the keyboard config to or what language (I even tried Chinese and English Dvorak) it seems to work the same (ctrl and alt= shift and layout is the same) |
| 00:12.39 | somiaj | factor: are you talking about the 7.7 'update' dvd? |
| 00:12.54 | factor | somiaj: No the full DVD of 7.7 all 3 |
| 00:13.07 | factor | does a 4th exist? |
| 00:13.10 | somiaj | Pixionus: again sounds like something is running and intercepting those events |
| 00:13.19 | somiaj | factor: I'm unsure as I don't use them, I use a netinstall + internet to install things |
| 00:13.26 | somiaj | factor: but I would think this would be on dvd 1 or 2 |
| 00:13.35 | somiaj | factor: care to show me y our sources.list |
| 00:13.39 | factor | somiaj: ok Im on a intranet , no access to the outside world with this box |
| 00:13.53 | somiaj | factor: I'm just wondering if maybe you didn't scan all three dvd's to get the package database correctly |
| 00:13.54 | factor | somiaj: ok hold one will paste bin |
| 00:14.15 | somiaj | well you should have three deb-cdrom lines in there, dont' have to show me but just double check the dvd's were scanned correctly |
| 00:14.30 | Pixionus | wait, xev worked this time. |
| 00:14.35 | Pixionus | not sure why it wasnt working before |
| 00:14.39 | Pixionus | http://pastebin.com/5E3AsUCW |
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| 00:15.20 | somiaj | Pixionus: I thought you said it was ctrl and alt that didn't work, you hit Shift_L right? |
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| 00:16.45 | Pixionus | nope |
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| 00:16.48 | Pixionus | hit right ctrl |
| 00:16.54 | Pixionus | see my problem? |
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| 00:17.12 | somiaj | Pixionus: so you hit the ctrl key and it registeres as Shift_L -- that is strange....:/ |
| 00:17.14 | factor | somiaj: http://pastebin.com/YqNybxZL |
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| 00:18.12 | Pixionus | yeah, but it works ok when going through windows |
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| 00:18.38 | Guest66085 | Where is the debian help channel? |
| 00:18.47 | factor | somiaj: And here are how the repos are mounted. http://pastebin.com/5iu6ZhmS |
| 00:18.49 | bazhang | here |
| 00:19.01 | somiaj | factor: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.7.0/amd64/list-dvd/ -- those should be the list of packages contained in which dvd, not sure why they have 10 dvd's there but only 3 you can download |
| 00:19.21 | somiaj | Pixionus: I woudlnt' nkow what is getting in the way, but almost sounds like some kernel override. |
| 00:19.37 | Guest66085 | i am having trouble with conencting to OPENVPN. I connect and i can ping, but dns does not work |
| 00:19.56 | Guest66085 | i am noob and tha is all i know |
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| 00:20.12 | Pixionus | ... |
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| 00:20.25 | somiaj | factor: according to that page it is on dvd-4 |
| 00:20.35 | Pixionus | kernel override?... wtf |
| 00:20.37 | factor | ahh |
| 00:20.39 | factor | ok |
| 00:20.44 | Pixionus | basically vanila wheezy |
| 00:20.54 | factor | somiaj: How can I find a dvd4 |
| 00:21.04 | somiaj | Pixionus: yea I don't know what it could be, you don't have your keyboard pluged into some kvm switch? I thought you may have said that |
| 00:21.17 | somiaj | factor: again i said I was unsure not sure why they have a list of 10 dvd's, but only 3 are downloadable from the mirrors |
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| 00:21.34 | somiaj | factor: looks like you have ot use jigdo for that |
| 00:21.48 | factor | somiaj: oh ok did not know that. |
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| 00:21.57 | factor | Good to know. |
| 00:22.01 | Guest66085 | a |
| 00:22.18 | somiaj | factor: I'm sure it is a space/bandwith consideration, they put what they consider the most popular packages on the first few dvd's and only make those available via non jidigo methods |
| 00:22.33 | somiaj | factor: you could also just download the .deb you need and copy it onto a usb stick to transfer over from packages.debian.org |
| 00:22.36 | factor | somiaj: What iso is it on? |
| 00:22.41 | factor | cd not dvd |
| 00:22.55 | somiaj | factor: you'll ahve to go thought he lists and figure it out |
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| 00:23.07 | somiaj | I downloaded each .gz file and searched for the package. http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.7.0/amd64/list-cd/ |
| 00:23.14 | factor | ok |
| 00:23.18 | Pixionus | somiaj: nope, it's plugged in through a usb hub, but nothing else. I do usually use Synergy (effectively a software kvm that supports encryption and copy/paste) |
| 00:23.20 | somiaj | there are 67 cd's there, have fun |
| 00:23.43 | somiaj | Pixionus: is that software fully disabled (not sure if mayeb it reroutes things) |
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| 00:24.18 | Pixionus | I generally have the windows computer running the synergy server, but windows sucks and half the time I find my controls locked when it slows down, so trying to move my server to my debian machine |
| 00:24.22 | Pixionus | nope |
| 00:24.24 | Pixionus | shut down |
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| 00:24.46 | somiaj | Pixionus: care to put /etc/default/keyboard at paste.debian.net |
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| 00:25.11 | somiaj | factor: I would personally suggest using packages.debian.org and just get the .deb |
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| 00:25.33 | Guest66085 | can someone help me with openvpn? |
| 00:26.14 | Guest66085 | i am trying for 3 days and no luck |
| 00:26.27 | Pixionus | http://pastebin.com/WiBkU1h8 |
| 00:26.47 | Pixionus | god, now I can't exit nano since ctrl doesnt work :P |
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| 00:28.27 | somiaj | Pixionus: I'm unsure what that keymap and espically the XKBOPTIONS do, but here is my default setup that works, http://paste.debian.net/133541/ |
| 00:28.35 | deb64openvpnneed | where can i get help to connect to openvpn on debian? |
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| 00:29.19 | somiaj | deb64openvpnneed: this is a general support channel, you acn ask your question here and if someone knows openvpn they usally help (i don't know openvpn). You can sometimes find software speicifc channels which can be more help |
| 00:29.52 | somiaj | Pixionus: but you could backup your file, use mine, and then reboot or resuse X and see if that works. Again I don't know what could be causing your issue |
| 00:29.53 | bazhang | https://wiki.debian.org/OpenVPN deb64openvpnneed |
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| 00:30.55 | deb64openvpnneed | i try to connect to #openvpn but is invitation only |
| 00:31.10 | deb64openvpnneed | i googled for 3 days without sucess so i came to try here |
| 00:31.19 | sidram | what issues are you having |
| 00:31.26 | sidram | what are you using to setup |
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| 00:31.44 | deb64openvpnneed | i connect to a public vpn, i can ping, but can not browse, i believe is DNS problem |
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| 00:32.22 | wt | you can ping by ip address or dns name? |
| 00:32.35 | deb64openvpnneed | i download a "xxx.ovpn" file from vpngate and i run in terminal openvpn xxx.ovpn |
| 00:32.38 | deb64openvpnneed | as a root |
| 00:32.49 | deb64openvpnneed | i mean sudo openvpn xxxxx .ovpn |
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| 00:32.58 | deb64openvpnneed | i used to do like this in mint and ubuntu |
| 00:33.14 | somiaj | deb64openvpnneed: try ##openvpn or maybe it is on another network |
| 00:33.16 | sidram | never though about openvpn |
| 00:33.32 | sidram | what device are you vpn to |
| 00:33.43 | somiaj | deb64openvpnneed: actuallky #openvpn may need you to register you nick |
| 00:33.48 | wt | Anyone know if there is a shorthand for something like "1,16,31,46" as the minute field in crontab? For example, I know that */15 will do the same as "0,15,30,45". |
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| 00:34.17 | deb64openvpnneed | i download a vpn file here (http://www.vpngate.net/en/) and just run it |
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| 00:34.35 | somiaj | wt: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/12786410/run-cron-job-every-n-minutes-plus-offset -- google is my friend |
| 00:34.37 | deb64openvpnneed | with sudo openvpn xxx.ovpn |
| 00:34.53 | wt | somiaj, you are very useful :) |
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| 00:36.04 | deb64openvpnneed | #openvpn Cannot join channel (+r) - you need to be identified with services |
| 00:36.06 | wt | somiaj, thanks |
| 00:36.26 | homecable | any one setup a email server ? |
| 00:37.52 | sidram | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:37.59 | somiaj | deb64openvpnneed: yea I'm unsure how to get around that, maybe find an op. |
| 00:38.31 | deb64openvpnneed | :( i went to ubuntu they sair debian users should not ask there |
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| 00:39.15 | sidram | homecable what type -=postfix=- -=qmail=- ? |
| 00:39.17 | somiaj | deb64openvpnneed: that is correct, you are int he correct place for distro support, I wish I knew why #openvpn was invite only as that would be a good place for software support. But ubuntu webpages sometimes containe useful info for debian machines. |
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| 00:39.42 | somiaj | homecable: exim would be the default installed on debian, but once you pick up one, I'd look up a howto configure/setup guide for that server. |
| 00:41.03 | deb64openvpnneed | MAYBE i need certificate keys, i am noob and i still don't know that too, must i create keys on debian? |
| 00:41.03 | homecable | with webmail ? |
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| 00:42.02 | sidram | what drives you to use webmail |
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| 00:43.28 | cat_pants | Hi folks. What would be the best way to try and install a package that existed for wheezy, but doesn't exist for jessie? Should I try and download and install the deb created for wheezy on my jessie system? Or should I try and build a deb via the source? Also, just out of curiosity, who decides if a package gets removed from debian, either stable or testing? Thanks! |
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| 00:43.42 | cat_pants | (My system is running jessie) |
| 00:43.49 | Pixionus | didn't work :( |
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| 00:44.31 | somiaj | cat_pants: depends on the package, usually look for an alternative that is in jessie |
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| 00:44.45 | somiaj | cat_pants: many depends are >= so installing a wheezy package in jessie is possible but not preferable. |
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| 00:46.35 | MarkLessanger | hey everyone. So I think I may have made a mistake. I boot two different hard drives at a time. I was in my windows harddrive and plugged in my linux drive to see if I could access the drive through windows. I went back to try and boot my linux drive but it failed. It said no bootable device. So I was like, "Ok grub must need to be reinstsalled" I am running debian 7 and grub v2. I load up my install disk in recovery mode and i |
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| 00:46.36 | MarkLessanger | ied grub, grub-install grub-legacy-install. and none of them seem to work. I tried apt-get and apt-get acts like it get internet but then to all of my repositories it says can not be resolved. so I can not even pull grub down from the net. I am kinda at a loss here everyone. I have exhausted my minimal knowledge. I am calling on the wisdom of the gurus. Thank you in advance if you can answer my lengthy question I also tried ins |
| 00:46.43 | MarkLessanger | talling through aptitude as well I am indeed in a bit of a pickle though. if you answer pleas pong me with my name so I know I got a response. I am going to go hunting a bit for some config files. I remember seeing a grub.d file in etc years ago. that might have something in it. |
| 00:47.26 | Cerales | I'm having an issue with the Debian Jessie AMI self-terminating immediately after startup on Amazon EC2. Has anyone else seen this issue? |
| 00:47.40 | Cerales | I've mounted its root volume on another machine and I can't see anything in the logs explaining it. |
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| 00:47.43 | somiaj | MarkLessanger: using efi or legacy boot? |
| 00:48.15 | MarkLessanger | legacy if I am not mistaken somiaj |
| 00:48.25 | cat_pants | You are going to laugh at the package. It's svgalib. I wrote a few programs years ago that render using svgalib, and rather than try and port my program to sdl, I would like to try and have it run natively in svgalib. :) |
| 00:49.03 | somiaj | Cerales: This might not be the best place to get support for that. Not sure what this AMI you got is, but I would suggest contatcting the creater of it |
| 00:49.20 | cat_pants | I know SDL is supposed to be able to use svgalib as a rendering driver anyway, but I wrote these before I knew about SDL |
| 00:49.22 | somiaj | cat_pants: well y ou can try to install the binary from wheezy, but this may fail. The best method would be compile your own package for jessie |
| 00:49.50 | somiaj | cat_pants: /msg dpkg ssb (those isntructions will work for any release, you can even use it to compile a wheezy package on jessie -- note you may ahve to manually install the build depends since the package is not present in jessie) |
| 00:50.08 | cat_pants | Awesome, thank you! Let me try that |
| 00:51.03 | cat_pants | So what I would be doing here is creating a backport? Is that correct? |
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| 00:51.54 | somiaj | cat_pants: well you would be complining the source code from wheezy against jessie's libs |
| 00:52.05 | somiaj | cat_pants: really a backport means newer software against older libs, but the idea ist he same |
| 00:52.16 | somiaj | maybe you can call this a forwardport |
| 00:54.04 | MarkLessanger | Hmm would there be a way to put the grub setup files on a flashdrive or maybe pull it from the install disk? |
| 00:54.51 | somiaj | MarkLessanger: you will want to use the ones one your system as grub needs to know where to find the configs. Did you overwrite the mbr where grub lives at all |
| 00:54.55 | somiaj | !fixmbr |
| 00:54.55 | dpkg | To reinstall <GRUB> boot to your Debian install disk/live CD, switch to the other console (Alt-F2), then mount your root filesystem (mount -t ext2 /dev/whatever /target ; mount --bind /dev /target/dev ; mount -t proc none /target/proc ; mount -t sysfs none /target/sys), then chroot into it (chroot /target) and run "update-grub && grub-install /dev/whatever". See also <rescue mode>, <dual boot guide>, <supergrub>. Also works for EFI! |
| 00:54.59 | somiaj | did you try that ^^ |
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| 00:57.22 | cat_pants | Thanks! |
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| 00:58.26 | MarkLessanger | I am going to assume that when I plugged the linux drive into windows that windows tried to understand it and somehow erased the grub portion. It is an encrypted drive so only the boot partition would have made sense. My debian disk is install only. so I am doing this all in the rescue mode root shell. If I could just get apt-get to work then I could run the grub-install command |
| 00:58.42 | Cerales | somiaj: thanks, i'll try to contact them. |
| 00:58.51 | MarkLessanger | somiaj, dpkg |
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| 01:02.09 | MarkLessanger | definitely lost about the apt-get though because recovery mode is getting internet. |
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| 01:03.36 | somiaj | MarkLessanger: there is no grub partition and windows won't automatically change the mbr. |
| 01:03.54 | somiaj | but those instructions should help you reinstall grub |
| 01:03.54 | xpto | hi |
| 01:04.56 | Pixionus | No matter what I do, all my modifiers (r-shift included) seem to show up as left shift for this keyboard (and this keyboard alone and only on the debian box) |
| 01:04.57 | MarkLessanger | I guess my question was not understood well. It was a lot to read. |
| 01:05.24 | MarkLessanger | thanks though you guys are a big help none the less. |
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| 01:05.44 | Pixionus | starting to realize just how big a part of my life shortcuts really are |
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| 01:07.12 | MarkLessanger | the only command line I will be able to access is the one in recovery mode. |
| 01:07.22 | Pixionus | Not sure if gnome might have something to do with it, but can't find any settings that are incorrect in it either |
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| 01:07.39 | Fletchie | is the world round? |
| 01:07.46 | Pixionus | no |
| 01:07.53 | Fletchie | why |
| 01:07.58 | Simotek-Work- | depends on your definition of round |
| 01:08.06 | Pixionus | ^ |
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| 01:08.14 | xpto | hi |
| 01:08.33 | MarkLessanger | ill be around if anything comes to mind. I am gonna go search some more for some other configuration files for grub. ugh. I feel like I should be able to access it from the install disc |
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| 01:08.55 | MarkLessanger | because the last thing it does is install grub |
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| 01:12.07 | Pixionus | If anyone thinks of anything with my keyboard problem please let me know. Ill be here for a bit. |
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| 01:14.54 | homecable | hello |
| 01:15.16 | homecable | what does wheezy df -h out put show / 2 times |
| 01:15.23 | MarkLessanger | when you make and encrypted lvm it puts the boot information in a different partition right? I would think it would have to |
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| 01:17.40 | waressearcher2 | if I want to run programm at startup should I put it in .xsession ? the program is "xbindkey" and I want it to read my $HOME/.xbindkeysrc file so it should run with my user priveleges, not root |
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| 01:18.55 | somiaj | waressearcher2: just write the command as you would run it in the shell |
| 01:19.13 | somiaj | MarkLessanger: correct, /boot has to be readable by grub |
| 01:19.38 | waressearcher2 | somiaj: should I add "xbindkeys &" in .xsession ? |
| 01:21.16 | MarkLessanger | cool thanks that gives me a better direction, Do you know how big the boot partition should be? |
| 01:22.04 | waressearcher2 | MarkLessanger: 50MB |
| 01:22.40 | waressearcher2 | after all it should host only /boot directory right ? my /boot is 28083K |
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| 01:24.43 | somiaj | waressearcher2: kernels get installed in /boot, so if you install/upgrade kernels it might be nice to have extra space avaialble, but you don't need to mcuh |
| 01:25.17 | waressearcher2 | 200MB |
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| 01:26.25 | somiaj | MarkLessanger: read my last message, I had a wrong nick there |
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| 01:26.48 | somiaj | waressearcher2: commands that run and exit nromaly don't need to be run in the background |
| 01:27.02 | somiaj | waressearcher2: but something like xterm which wuodln't stop until it is closed would. |
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| 01:27.51 | waressearcher2 | somiaj: no I need to run xbindkeys, its a daemon that listen to key you press and if there is some hot key pressed it runs some programm |
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| 01:32.09 | somiaj | waressearcher2: oh sorry, thought it was just a command to change settings. yes you'll want it in the background. (: |
| 01:32.36 | somiaj | waressearcher2: what window manager do you use, supprised there isn't a way to configure keybindings with it |
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| 01:33.29 | waressearcher2 | somiaj: I use KDE but I need DE independent way to set hot keys |
| 01:34.08 | somiaj | waressearcher2: ahh, yea I guess I don't think of having hotkeys between different wms, as I don't use different wms. (: |
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| 01:36.05 | eurobit | waressearcher2: the individual apps will probably overide the wm hotkeys but there is xrdb file with xterm overides in it |
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| 01:36.14 | eurobit | i use it for doing fns keys |
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| 01:39.02 | MarkLessanger | I am not seeing a way that I can recover this os. Is there a live distro that I can hop onto to decrypt the drive and recover my data? |
| 01:39.28 | MarkLessanger | does it have to be a debian live disc? |
| 01:41.42 | eurobit | are you having problem with the decrypt? or just mounting the drive???? |
| 01:42.40 | MarkLessanger | its weird because my windows drive had the unable to boot error too. there was another odd boot option that said windows boot manager in my list. it boots windows fine. linux drive did not have this unfortunatly |
| 01:42.53 | MarkLessanger | neither |
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| 01:43.30 | MarkLessanger | eurobit, I am having trouble recovering a grub with an encrypted lvm |
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| 01:45.25 | MarkLessanger | I need a way to install grub through the rescue mode on a debian network install disc. |
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| 01:45.30 | MarkLessanger | eurobit, |
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| 01:45.49 | eurobit | does it boot? and then quit at the grub cli? |
| 01:45.59 | Mr_B | Hey everyone! |
| 01:46.33 | JordanJ2 | Hi, Mr_B |
| 01:46.40 | MarkLessanger | it stops before that and the bios just detects an unbootable drive. This happened after I pluged the linux drive into my windows drive |
| 01:46.52 | Mr_B | :D JordanJ2! |
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| 01:47.40 | MarkLessanger | I wish it got to the cli. it would be cake walk to fix then |
| 01:47.46 | MarkLessanger | :/ eurobit |
| 01:49.14 | eurobit | then use a debian installation disk .. i think they all have a 'rescue' mode and then mount all your partitions and chroot to /mnt/ and grub-install |
| 01:49.30 | eurobit | what is your actual error btw |
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| 01:50.33 | MarkLessanger | the install disc shell does not have grub-install on it. should I past the problem back into chat? it is kinda long |
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| 01:51.09 | MarkLessanger | and chroot is not recognized either forgot to mention that earlier |
| 01:51.40 | MarkLessanger | hey everyone. So I think I may have made a mistake. I boot two different hard drives at a time. I was in my windows harddrive and plugged in my linux drive to see if I could access the drive through windows. I went back to try and boot my linux drive but it failed. It said no bootable device. So I was like, "Ok grub must need to be reinstsalled" I am running debian 7 and grub v2. I load up my install disk in recovery mode and i |
| 01:51.40 | MarkLessanger | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:51.41 | MarkLessanger | ied grub, grub-install grub-legacy-install. and none of them seem to work. I tried apt-get and apt-get acts like it get internet but then to all of my repositories it says can not be resolved. so I can not even pull grub down from the net. I am kinda at a loss here everyone. I have exhausted my minimal knowledge. I am calling on the wisdom of the gurus. Thank you in advance if you can answer my lengthy question I also tried ins |
| 01:51.47 | MarkLessanger | talling through aptitude as well I am indeed in a bit of a pickle though. if you answer pleas pong me with my name so I know I got a response. I am going to go hunting a bit for some config files. I remember seeing a grub.d file in etc years ago. that might have something in it. |
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| 01:52.36 | eurobit | what did you actually do after plugging the drive into windows .. just plugging it in won't overwrite the boot sector etc |
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| 01:54.17 | MarkLessanger | I know that is why I am confused. I plugged it in and opened disk management to see if the drive was going to be acessable and then saw the drive there and closed disk management and restarted my computer. then unplugged the windows drive and then tried to boot into the linux drive and boom a week of head ache lol |
| 01:55.01 | MarkLessanger | if it was not encrypted I would not have had anyproblems. back up files and reinstall no biggy |
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| 01:55.44 | MarkLessanger | I am going to write a backup program when I get everything working again. i have a file server here that I can save it all to. |
| 01:56.05 | pingfloyd | MarkLessanger: try copying /etc/resolv.conf to the /etc in the chroot |
| 01:56.15 | Pattttt | anyone here use gulp? |
| 01:56.34 | pingfloyd | That will likely fix your name resolution issue at least |
| 01:57.03 | eurobit | pingfloyd: he said he can't do chroot??? |
| 01:57.30 | MarkLessanger | I have access to resolv.conf (btw its empty) O.o |
| 01:57.33 | MarkLessanger | though |
| 01:57.49 | MarkLessanger | I have su rights though |
| 01:57.56 | eurobit | how can you have access to etc? |
| 01:57.56 | biffbaxter | So I think we need the whole picture. You have two external drives and boot to windows or linux...each drive has its own bootloader, or are you using grub for both, or is there a third drive? |
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| 01:59.37 | pingfloyd | MarkLessanger: in that case manually put like nameserver 8.8.8.8 in resolv.conf and see if it resolves. |
| 01:59.58 | MarkLessanger | ok cause I can ping 8.8.8.8 |
| 02:00.16 | pingfloyd | Ip isn't a domain name |
| 02:00.34 | pingfloyd | Your issue sounds like a dns issue |
| 02:00.35 | MarkLessanger | they are both seperate. I have a switch to power them on or off. |
| 02:00.44 | biffbaxter | Plugging your linux drive into a windows box does not kill grub. I do it all the time...Arent we trying to just fix grub so you can boot to your Linux OS |
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| 02:01.01 | MarkLessanger | yes biffbaxter |
| 02:01.14 | biffbaxter | Where does the bootloader live? |
| 02:01.14 | eurobit | what is now tith this dns ??? are there two MarkLessangers? |
| 02:01.16 | pingfloyd | MarkLessanger: if that doesn't work, try disabling ipv6 as a test |
| 02:02.10 | MarkLessanger | should be in an unencrypted partition. I did full disk encryption |
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| 02:03.11 | biffbaxter | you cannot run update-grub? |
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| 02:03.21 | MarkLessanger | nope |
| 02:03.29 | MarkLessanger | does not exist |
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| 02:04.18 | MarkLessanger | damn, I added 8.8.8.8 and I moved the resolv.conf and none of the, worked |
| 02:04.34 | homecable | what does wheezy df -h out put show / 2 times |
| 02:04.39 | homecable | why* |
| 02:05.04 | biffbaxter | Thats why I am trying to figure out where it lives. You think its on the Linux disk, but there is a seperate physical windows disk and you never boot linux with both plugged in...and yes a df -h will help us |
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| 02:05.12 | JohnnyL | have any of you created a dvr under debian? |
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| 02:06.43 | MarkLessanger | lol df says there is a partition none with 596m |
| 02:06.51 | MarkLessanger | biffbaxter, |
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| 02:08.00 | MarkLessanger | I think that might be where grub used to be |
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| 02:08.42 | MarkLessanger | I don't believe I ever let them boot together. unless one of my switches was not completely off |
| 02:09.10 | MarkLessanger | would that cause a problem if they both tried to boot? |
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| 02:10.29 | MarkLessanger | says it is mounted on /run btw biffbaxter |
| 02:10.30 | eurobit | JohnnyL: using udf? or just dumping a iso onto a dvd? |
| 02:10.46 | biffbaxter | No...it depends on what drive gets enumerated first at boot. Is this a laptop or desktop, and there is not a third drive? A full df- h or fdisk -l would be helpful...so when you boot to the linux drive what does it say exactly? |
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| 02:12.58 | MarkLessanger | desktop. no third drive. and I turn windows drive off when I boot linux. The error is: Reboot and Select proper Boot device\nor Insert Boot Media in selected Boot device and press any key_ |
| 02:13.03 | MarkLessanger | biffbaxter, |
| 02:13.40 | MarkLessanger | the \n is to symbolize a line break |
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| 02:14.33 | biffbaxter | can you look at your /etc/fstab? do you know if you have a /boot ? or all on one partition? |
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| 02:14.55 | MarkLessanger | sec I need to boot back into my install disc |
| 02:15.49 | MarkLessanger | and I would assume so, because it would need to be seperate |
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| 02:18.53 | MarkLessanger | there is a line in fstab that says # /boot was on /dev/sda2 during installation |
| 02:18.56 | MarkLessanger | biffbaxter, |
| 02:18.56 | JohnnyL | eurobit: recording a commodore 64 games longplay. not sure how I will record over dub wit a microphone as of yet. |
| 02:19.07 | JohnnyL | eurobit: i'm looking at pci tuner cards. |
| 02:19.32 | JohnnyL | i need it to have svideo in. |
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| 02:21.17 | eurobit | i think they all have svideo in now - check out mwave.com - i got some good ones there |
| 02:21.19 | MarkLessanger | UUID=<some hash> /boot ext2 defaults 0 2 |
| 02:21.34 | JohnnyL | what would you use for drivers for a pci capture device like this? |
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| 02:21.45 | JohnnyL | eurobit: ok! |
| 02:22.10 | eurobit | they are specific for the chip on the board and most are in the kernel - and probably debian will find them automatically on boot |
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| 02:22.54 | eurobit | i took your first post of dvr to mean dvdrw/dvdr |
| 02:23.09 | biffbaxter | If that was a perfectly functioning linux install yes? UEFI or non UEFI do you know? |
| 02:23.12 | JohnnyL | eurobit: that site is borken. |
| 02:23.21 | JohnnyL | eurobit: nope. |
| 02:23.30 | biffbaxter | You are sure nothing liek UEFI or boot order got changed in bios yes? |
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| 02:24.54 | biffbaxter | I would run a live-CD then mount the boot partition follow the directions in the link I am putting here (they are ubuntu but work) its too much to type |
| 02:25.42 | MarkLessanger | yes, it was good until I plugged into windows. I just want my files back really. recovering the OS would just be a big plus. And I changed my order to match my drive. it i is on the first option. and I thought is was legacy but I see another option in fstab that says /boot/efi was on /dev/sda1 so now I don't know |
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| 02:26.37 | MarkLessanger | thanks so much for your help biffbaxter. It is nice talking to competent people for a change. Thank you everyone involved |
| 02:27.15 | biffbaxter | give this a crack http://askubuntu.com/questions/145241/how-do-i-run-update-grub-from-a-livecd |
| 02:28.02 | MarkLessanger | <PROTECTED> |
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| 02:28.51 | biffbaxter | thanks...also is this a macbook? |
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| 02:29.59 | MarkLessanger | god no |
| 02:30.11 | MarkLessanger | I built it myself. asus board |
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| 02:30.24 | biffbaxter | just making sure...I have lived EFI hell on Macbooks |
| 02:30.41 | biffbaxter | ok...good luck |
| 02:30.50 | MarkLessanger | lol I know that pain. had a friend trying to dual boot on it. |
| 02:30.56 | virtualizado | can someone help me? http://pastebin.com/136bcH6V |
| 02:31.12 | MarkLessanger | I wonder if I can mount encrypted drive in a live disc. any ideas? |
| 02:31.37 | biffbaxter | yes |
| 02:31.41 | biffbaxter | do it all the time |
| 02:31.57 | biffbaxter | I am assuming luks yes? |
| 02:32.07 | MarkLessanger | yes |
| 02:32.10 | un214 | so why would it try to install systemd with systemd-sysv pinned to -1? |
| 02:32.10 | MarkLessanger | it is |
| 02:32.43 | MarkLessanger | Is there a way to do it in windows? that would be freaking awesome |
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| 02:34.48 | virtualizado | please someone help me |
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| 02:34.50 | JohnnyL | any of you use digital antennas with a tv tuner pci card under debiab? |
| 02:34.52 | JohnnyL | debian |
| 02:35.51 | MarkLessanger | omg I just found freeOTFE that might do it!! |
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| 02:36.32 | biffbaxter | yes that will work...there are lots of recovery options. |
| 02:36.50 | biffbaxter | Also to mount a luks partition just create a directory like /mnt/secdata |
| 02:37.28 | biffbaxter | then sudo cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdaxx |
| 02:37.54 | biffbaxter | then it will ask for creds |
| 02:37.56 | MarkLessanger | this may the solutions then Illl just reinstall |
| 02:38.27 | biffbaxter | then sudo mount -t ext4 /dev/mapper/luks /mnt/secdata |
| 02:39.01 | biffbaxter | if you want to try a debian distro feel free to give mine a spin...its light and simple (no this is not a commercial) |
| 02:40.04 | biffbaxter | wattOS linux is a debian wheezy based disto (on distrowatch 50ish) go to www.planetwatt.com to download or check the forums...small community but I have run it for 6 years |
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| 02:42.55 | MarkLessanger | what wattOS? |
| 02:43.00 | abrotman | biffbaxter: Please don't spam your distro here |
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| 02:43.08 | abrotman | This channel is for Debian support |
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| 02:43.11 | marioxcc | hello |
| 02:43.18 | biffbaxter | not...just helping...first time I have mentioned in years...thanks |
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| 02:43.31 | biffbaxter | I will refrain like normal |
| 02:43.39 | MarkLessanger | What sets your distro apart? |
| 02:44.03 | biffbaxter | go to the distro channel to discuss or the debian police will get me :) |
| 02:44.33 | marioxcc | what's the precedence of commands compound with &&, || and ! in bash? |
| 02:45.24 | abrotman | ask #bash |
| 02:45.33 | marioxcc | ok |
| 02:45.46 | virtualizado | please someone help me here, #openvpn people said is a debian distro help and not from them. |
| 02:46.04 | virtualizado | http://pastebin.com/136bcH6V |
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| 02:53.10 | virtualizado | when i connect to OPENVPN, i have DNS problem, ubuntu and mint does the change automatcly, but debian does not. |
| 02:53.31 | virtualizado | http://pastebin.com/136bcH6V here are my configs |
| 02:53.35 | virtualizado | if someone can help |
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| 02:53.44 | virtualizado | and a detailed explanation |
| 02:54.06 | MarkLessanger | lol |
| 02:55.44 | biffbaxter | virtualizado: what does your resolv.conf look like after the vpn is up? |
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| 03:02.07 | wind0 | Hi, I'm running Debian LXDE and I find that when I try to hibernate the system, it *almost* works.... What I mean by almost is that the system reloads, windows and taskbars appear, I can resize the windows, move them around, but visually I cannot see a thing- the graphics are all garbled into many multi-colored pixels. I can switch to a different tty and restart an X session but that almost entirely defeats my purposes for hibernating. A |
| 03:02.08 | wind0 | ny ideas how I might be able to correct or where I should look? |
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| 03:03.18 | pingfloyd | wind0: what's the output of the lspci | grep VGA |
| 03:03.38 | Lardo | Guys I tried to dual boot but it said error 13-.37? |
| 03:04.28 | BsdGrill | sudo apt-get install dildo |
| 03:04.31 | Lardo | is there a way to dual boot windows 95 with debian? |
| 03:04.35 | BsdGrill | ooops wrong window |
| 03:04.39 | pingfloyd | wind0: if you're getting that far in resuming, it's probably your video driver. |
| 03:04.57 | Disconsented | Why do you want Win 95 Lardo? |
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| 03:05.04 | Lardo | I do have windows 95 |
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| 03:05.10 | pingfloyd | wind0: very symptomatic of it |
| 03:05.12 | Lardo | I want debian on it |
| 03:05.16 | Simotek-Work- | if you install Debian second grub should pick it up |
| 03:05.34 | Simotek-Work- | windows 95 had some good gaes |
| 03:05.37 | Simotek-Work- | game* |
| 03:05.42 | BsdGrill | can I have Debian if im poland? |
| 03:05.52 | ectospasm | BsdGrill: yes |
| 03:05.58 | ectospasm | !po |
| 03:05.59 | dpkg | somebody said po was #del# |
| 03:06.03 | ectospasm | er |
| 03:06.05 | ectospasm | !pl |
| 03:06.06 | dpkg | Na kanale #debian rozmawiamy po angielsku; jesli chcesz lub wolisz mowic po polsku, wejdz na kanal #debian-pl na irc.freenode.net (Polish speakers please go to #debian-pl on irc.freenode.net). pl is also <perl>. |
| 03:06.15 | Simotek-Work- | yes, not everything may be translated to polish though |
| 03:06.27 | Lardo | but mein boxuez was not working when I went to poland on vacation? It said partion not found. |
| 03:06.51 | BsdGrill | So I install in poland, it is not poland? |
| 03:07.21 | BsdGrill | My box is kuraw box, so only part poland? |
| 03:07.29 | Lardo | How do I r00t my debian? |
| 03:07.39 | BsdGrill | I'm confused |
| 03:07.52 | Disconsented | Lardo login as root or use sudo |
| 03:07.52 | un214 | Lardo: rw init=/bin/sh |
| 03:07.54 | wind0 | pingfloyd, 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G71 [GeForce 7950 GT] (rev a1) |
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| 03:08.26 | BsdGrill | my box is kurwa, can I still have poland debian? |
| 03:08.46 | Lardo | Disconsented but will it be uid=0 gid=0 ? |
| 03:08.56 | BsdGrill | or only box english debian kurwa? |
| 03:09.16 | un214 | Lardo: yes |
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| 03:09.43 | pingfloyd | wind0: are you using the proprietary or oss driver? |
| 03:10.01 | wind0 | i did not load drivers myself, just whatever installed with LXDE |
| 03:10.05 | Lardo | un214 Is it possible to pwn the USA power grid with debian? I saw some ching-chang-chongs on the news trying to pwn it |
| 03:10.22 | pingfloyd | wind0: you might try this https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=111&t=121590 |
| 03:10.26 | BsdGrill | I can install kurwa box debian in poland with get? |
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| 03:11.22 | Lardo | Yes I am a verified L33T hack3r from the Chinese National Cyber Defense Team |
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| 03:11.51 | BsdGrill | I'm haked? |
| 03:11.52 | thepro4ever | [R], for some reason when i "ls" the directory with that file the file name appears with a red color |
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| 03:12.15 | Lardo | This is very wunderbar to be getting 5000 Yuan paid by the government to pwn some USA b0xuez.. |
| 03:12.21 | un214 | power grid is controlled by ethernet over power lines, so if you want to control that network you need to connect an ethernet card to it. if your card burns up it was incompatible |
| 03:12.49 | BsdGrill | but I'm poland? |
| 03:12.57 | BsdGrill | how to install poland debian |
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| 03:14.16 | BsdGrill | i need help, someone speak kurwa |
| 03:14.31 | BsdGrill | I need remote help install debian |
| 03:14.35 | Simotek-Work- | BsdGrill, Download a Debian DVD and set the language to polish in the installer? |
| 03:14.35 | BsdGrill | poland only though |
| 03:14.40 | pingfloyd | BsdGrill: why not just follow this? https://www.debian.org/international/Polish/ |
| 03:14.50 | marioxcc | BsdGrill: See https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Remote |
| 03:14.53 | BsdGrill | I can have poland |
| 03:14.57 | marioxcc | you may have to preseed some more things, however. |
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| 03:15.21 | Simotek-Work- | if you can have Poland may i have Italy? |
| 03:15.32 | BsdGrill | but how do I turn down debian? |
| 03:15.44 | BsdGrill | How can I turn down debian to poland |
| 03:16.00 | pingfloyd | you mean set it? |
| 03:16.14 | BsdGrill | nono, i need to turn down debian |
| 03:16.21 | pingfloyd | turn down? |
| 03:16.21 | BsdGrill | in poland |
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| 03:16.43 | pingfloyd | your question doesn't parse |
| 03:16.49 | Lardo | mein boxuez has been pwned? wunderbar |
| 03:16.57 | Simotek-Work- | BsdGrill, your question doesn't make sense in english |
| 03:16.57 | BsdGrill | Poland, turndown debian |
| 03:17.02 | BsdGrill | ;___ ; |
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| 03:17.12 | pingfloyd | what do you mean by turn down? |
| 03:17.13 | BsdGrill | Turn down debian in poland ;__ ; |
| 03:17.27 | pingfloyd | do you mean downgrade? |
| 03:17.28 | BsdGrill | TURND WOND FOR WHAT 8=====D TURND WOND FOR WHAT 8=====D TURND WOND FOR WHAT 8=====D TURN DOWN FOR WHAT 8=====D |
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| 03:17.44 | pingfloyd | what the hell? |
| 03:17.57 | Lardo | mein boxuez have been 0wned |
| 03:18.22 | pingfloyd | Lardo: good4u |
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| 03:18.38 | BsdGrill | TURND WOND FOR WHAT 8=====D TURND WOND FOR WHAT 8=====D TURND WOND FOR WHAT 8=====D TURN DOWN FOR WHAT 8=====D |
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| 03:19.45 | Lardo | pls help !! mein boxuez is pwned! what i do now! what meaning of a boxuez?!!? |
| 03:19.58 | magz^ | Wtf |
| 03:19.59 | pingfloyd | guess its troll hour in #debian now |
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| 03:20.50 | Simotek-Work- | Lardo, try asking on ##windows |
| 03:22.09 | Lardo | but i not need asking on ##windows ?! mein bouxuez been Pwned by a china hackur and i get r00t uname -a id sudo, ./boxuez |
| 03:22.53 | Simotek-Work- | Lardo, you won't find help for that here |
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| 03:33.06 | bennyDaBeard | Hi I have a question, is sid the release after jessie? or will unstable always be code named sid? |
| 03:33.23 | Epakai | always sid |
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| 03:38.13 | dvs | stretch? STRETCH? |
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| 03:39.57 | wind0 | pingfloyd, thanks, sounds like that's my issue. doesn't look like a simple fix but at least it gives me direction. |
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| 03:43.26 | pfred1 | sid is the kid that breaks toys |
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| 03:45.22 | dvs | ...and the garbage man |
| 03:45.44 | Lardo | but mein boxuez?!!?!?!?!??!!?!? |
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| 04:16.42 | veek | anyway to run 2 dns servers one for tor and the other for normal browsing |
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| 04:18.49 | un214 | yeah have the resolver differentiate |
| 04:19.09 | un214 | about 6 hours of coding |
| 04:19.23 | bennyDaBeard | I am getting an error mounting a drive on boot where can I find my logs? |
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| 04:21.37 | Akuw | /var/log |
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| 04:21.45 | veek | Lardo mein = your, boxuz = computer? |
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| 04:22.33 | veek | un214 any other way besides writting the thing myself |
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| 04:38.43 | nezZario | Hi |
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| 05:18.38 | illy | is there a website when i can chec if sec/updates are avaliable? |
| 05:18.49 | illy | :s/when/where/g |
| 05:19.20 | illy | instead of doing update && upgrade |
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| 05:19.51 | Simotek-Work | does debian have packagekit intergration? |
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| 05:22.41 | Rusty1 | a google of: packagekit debian, may provide an answer Simotek-Work |
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| 05:23.23 | Simotek-Work | Rusty1, my question was a question in response to illy's question probably should have addressed it that way |
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| 05:24.40 | Rusty1 | Simotek-Work: ok, i joined after so not aware of the thread |
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| 05:26.29 | anonnumberanon | What is the channel for testing? not #debian-next, is it? |
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| 05:28.22 | waressearcher2 | why I can't join #debian-next ? it says "you must be invited" |
| 05:28.32 | narbeh | Hi, Is it possible to check or repair the XFS file system on the fly? without unmounting the filesystem? |
| 05:29.05 | waressearcher2 | it should be possible to run checking but it will harm |
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| 05:31.06 | phy1729 | waressearcher2: #debian-next is on oftc not freenode |
| 05:31.36 | waressearcher2 | phy1729: but if there is no such channel I should be an op when I join it but I can't even join |
| 05:31.51 | waressearcher2 | so it does exist or disabled in some way ? |
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| 05:32.03 | phy1729 | waressearcher2: likely it was registered to prevent confusion |
| 05:32.24 | phy1729 | yeah looks like that's the case |
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| 05:50.03 | tm512 | copying my debian installation over with rsync should work as long as I set up the bootloader properly on the target disk, right? |
| 05:51.00 | waressearcher2 | tm512: right |
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| 05:51.16 | sexyboy | tm512: be sure to udate /fstab too |
| 05:51.21 | sexyboy | /etc/fstab |
| 05:51.25 | waressearcher2 | linux is not like windows you can just copy it and it will work |
| 05:51.33 | tm512 | I'm doing some strange things tonight |
| 05:51.46 | tm512 | trying to get debian on an old-world powerpc mac |
| 05:51.46 | sexyboy | tm512: it might contain partition ids from the previous system |
| 05:51.55 | tm512 | with an untested bootloader |
| 05:51.55 | waressearcher2 | tm512: if you use "uuid" in fstab, fix it |
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| 05:52.10 | tm512 | I will check |
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| 05:53.40 | tm512 | I'll probably do linux from scratch with static linking and stuff later on for this system, to get the most out of it, but for now debian just to see whether it can even handle modern linux |
| 05:53.54 | tm512 | it's really old, like 1996 |
| 05:54.03 | sexyboy | lfs |
| 05:54.07 | sexyboy | good luck with it |
| 05:54.37 | sexyboy | also, don't tell me that you're rsyncing an intel debian to a ppc mac |
| 05:54.42 | tm512 | no |
| 05:54.47 | tm512 | I'm on a ppc mac right now |
| 05:54.48 | sexyboy | ok |
| 05:54.52 | tm512 | just a new-world one |
| 05:55.01 | waressearcher2 | "modern linux", actually debian is famous of being a bit outdated, for modern is being "ubuntu" |
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| 05:55.14 | tm512 | so I just want to copy the installation over, and set up the bootloader independently |
| 05:55.39 | tm512 | waressearcher2: most bootloaders for this system, afaict, are designed for 2.4 or earlier |
| 05:55.53 | tm512 | I'm testing out one that claims to be able to at least do up to 3.2 |
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| 06:00.08 | Japer | hi |
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| 06:00.58 | Japer | I am trying to figure out why, when I deleted weechat it steel has the same configuration when I reinstall ? |
| 06:01.17 | waressearcher2 | Japer: you have your old $HOME/.config ? |
| 06:01.40 | waressearcher2 | or in /etc/weechat/config or something like that |
| 06:01.58 | Japer | hold on |
| 06:02.29 | waressearcher2 | be fast |
| 06:04.13 | Japer | do not see it |
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| 06:07.18 | cynicallemon | Japer: try ~/.weechat/irc.conf |
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| 06:12.14 | notfaye | hello |
| 06:12.25 | notfaye | are you guys going to include systemd in the next stable? |
| 06:12.55 | cynicallemon | notfaye: yes its already in jessie |
| 06:13.04 | notfaye | why |
| 06:13.07 | tm512 | RIP linux |
| 06:13.20 | cynicallemon | tm512: yes |
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| 06:14.00 | cynicallemon | notfaye: it was voted in, go ask the technical committee... |
| 06:14.05 | sexyboy | notfaye: https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=systemd&searchon=names&suite=testing§ion=all |
| 06:14.06 | notfaye | where |
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| 06:14.38 | tm512 | you are always welcome to install your own init and specify that on the kernel boot command line |
| 06:14.42 | tm512 | afaik |
| 06:14.59 | sexyboy | which will be pain |
| 06:15.27 | cynicallemon | tm512: and do some apt pinning so it doesnt reinstall |
| 06:15.30 | notfaye | kill systemd |
| 06:15.43 | tm512 | cynicallemon: I meant leaving it installed |
| 06:15.59 | sexyboy | you're free to use a distro that didn't implement systemd yet or provides alternatives |
| 06:16.03 | tm512 | just specifying init=/usr/local/myinit or whatever |
| 06:16.05 | cynicallemon | but wait till some bozo hard codes systemd into an app |
| 06:16.18 | tm512 | stuff already depends on systemd |
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| 06:16.21 | notfaye | theres no better distro than debian |
| 06:16.27 | cynicallemon | freebsd is looking the best bet |
| 06:16.39 | notfaye | well, no better linux distro that is |
| 06:16.42 | notfaye | yes freebsd is good |
| 06:16.44 | tm512 | that's why the openbsd guys are apparently doing a systemd compat layer |
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| 06:18.04 | notfaye | it makes me sad that if i want newer packages, to install testing means to be using systemd |
| 06:18.06 | cynicallemon | yes |
| 06:18.09 | notfaye | remove systemd save debian |
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| 06:18.20 | cynicallemon | too late |
| 06:18.21 | notfaye | do it for the children |
| 06:18.30 | sexyboy | fork debian |
| 06:18.36 | cynicallemon | its here to stay |
| 06:18.49 | cynicallemon | some of us might not be here though |
| 06:19.05 | sexyboy | i actually have nothing against systemd |
| 06:19.06 | notfaye | that is what i am thinking |
| 06:19.18 | tm512 | I'm mostly an arch user |
| 06:19.20 | notfaye | all the good people will fork |
| 06:19.23 | sexyboy | i've installed fedora on one of my machnes and it works pretty well |
| 06:19.30 | tm512 | been living with systemd for a long time now |
| 06:19.42 | tm512 | it is usually unnoticable |
| 06:19.45 | tm512 | so I don't mind |
| 06:20.05 | tm512 | philosophically, though, I don't care for it |
| 06:20.08 | cynicallemon | yeah im on sid, its been a PITA sometimes |
| 06:20.09 | sexyboy | yeah and managing the startup services is not stupid at all |
| 06:20.19 | sexyboy | actually better than sysvinit |
| 06:20.42 | notfaye | :^( |
| 06:20.48 | cynicallemon | systemd is betaware |
| 06:20.54 | Japer | I do not like fedora |
| 06:20.58 | sexyboy | like 90% of linux software |
| 06:21.26 | Japer | fedora sucks |
| 06:21.36 | sexyboy | thanks for sharing your opinion |
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| 06:22.23 | tm512 | been considering doing linux from scratch, with pkgsrc, on my main computer |
| 06:22.40 | tm512 | to get a BSD-ish system without any of the downsides of BSD |
| 06:22.47 | sexyboy | tm512: good for research, bad for daily use |
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| 06:23.25 | tm512 | pkgsrc works well on linux |
| 06:23.32 | sexyboy | i mean lfs |
| 06:24.09 | tm512 | how is it bad? |
| 06:24.11 | Japer | anyone know of a distro that is for science and has every science program you can think of on it? |
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| 06:24.45 | notfaye | scientific linux |
| 06:24.46 | notfaye | lol |
| 06:24.57 | sexyboy | tm512: pain to maintain. some people say that gentoo is pain to maintain, but lfs is just a mind blower |
| 06:25.16 | tm512 | sexyboy: pkgsrc is a portable ports tree |
| 06:25.25 | sexyboy | i know what pkgsrc is |
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| 06:25.38 | sexyboy | i guess that you're missing my point. |
| 06:25.40 | tm512 | the only stuff I'd have to worry about keeping updated myself is the kernel (I already do this), and the core system |
| 06:26.09 | sexyboy | well it's up to you. bur, i'd not be suprised if yopu'd just rage at one point and guit it |
| 06:26.13 | sexyboy | but* |
| 06:26.23 | sexyboy | quit* |
| 06:26.27 | sexyboy | bah i'm typoing |
| 06:26.59 | tm512 | I'm incredibly stubborn. lol. |
| 06:27.12 | tm512 | main thing that has kept me from switching is that I like binary packages |
| 06:27.25 | sexyboy | they're lovely, aren't they |
| 06:27.58 | tm512 | my computer is fast enough to handle most software compilation reasonably quick |
| 06:28.08 | tm512 | mainly just worried about the bloat |
| 06:28.19 | sexyboy | what bloat |
| 06:28.20 | tm512 | GTK, Chromium, etc etc etc |
| 06:28.29 | tm512 | big packages of software |
| 06:28.46 | tm512 | especially chromium, I think it needs like 30GB to work with when compiling |
| 06:28.54 | sexyboy | not really, no |
| 06:29.13 | sexyboy | i don't recall it taking tha much when i was using gentoo |
| 06:29.20 | tm512 | pretty sure it says that in the installation instructions |
| 06:29.29 | sexyboy | but it was taking some time to build on my athlon 64 x2 |
| 06:29.30 | tm512 | maybe I'm not remembering |
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| 06:29.41 | sexyboy | well it might now, it was some time ago |
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| 06:30.37 | sexyboy | i had a 10g /var/ and 10g /tmp back then |
| 06:30.48 | sexyboy | so 30g would not quite fit |
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| 06:31.49 | tm512 | anyway, rsyncing my installation over |
| 06:32.09 | tm512 | if all goes well I'll be saying hello from a 1996 Mac soon |
| 06:32.21 | sexyboy | throw it out |
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| 06:32.25 | tm512 | I'm just jinxing it probably |
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| 06:32.34 | tm512 | no fun in throwing it out |
| 06:32.44 | sexyboy | throw it out harder |
| 06:32.51 | notfaye | lol |
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| 06:33.07 | waressearcher2 | what is systemd and why is it bad to include it in linux ? |
| 06:33.23 | notfaye | its TERRIBLE |
| 06:33.26 | phy1729 | !systemd |
| 06:33.27 | dpkg | systemd is a system and service manager for Linux, compatible with SysV and LSB init scripts. It is a replacement for <sysvinit>. systemd is shipped as a technology preview in Debian 7 "Wheezy" and will be be the default init system in Debian 8 "Jessie". https://wiki.debian.org/systemd #debian-systemd on irc.oftc.net http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd #systemd on irc.freenode.net. See also <why systemd>. |
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| 06:34.05 | waressearcher2 | !why systemd |
| 06:34.06 | dpkg | a tired argument. Start by reading rra's excellent analysis at https://lists.debian.org/debian-ctte/2013/12/msg00234.html Support for other init systems (sysvinit) will still be present in Debian 8. systemd-shim (in development) will allow userspace requiring some systemd APIs to work without it. |
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| 06:34.35 | tm512 | uh, apparently rsync doesn't ignore mountpoints? |
| 06:34.52 | sexyboy | you can specify what to exclude manually |
| 06:34.56 | sexyboy | or umount the mount point |
| 06:34.59 | sexyboy | s |
| 06:35.21 | tm512 | I'm copying to what is mounted |
| 06:35.31 | tm512 | rsync -av / /mnt |
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| 06:37.31 | tm512 | apparently -x is the required option |
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| 06:41.39 | tm512 | I am already missing SATA |
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| 06:43.49 | waressearcher2 | SATA ? hard drive protocol ? |
| 06:44.06 | tm512 | yes |
| 06:44.12 | tm512 | this machine has IDE |
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| 06:44.24 | waressearcher2 | tm512: or by "missing" you mean you can't find it ? |
| 06:44.43 | waressearcher2 | tm512: I have 80GB IDE SAMSUNG on my PC now |
| 06:44.58 | waressearcher2 | and IDE DVDRW |
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| 06:45.56 | tm512 | waressearcher2: missing as in I wish I had it on this computer |
| 06:46.00 | tm512 | because IDE is slow |
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| 06:47.45 | waressearcher2 | "IDE is slow", tell me about it |
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| 06:56.48 | cloudowind | hello |
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| 06:57.05 | Airwrecka | #ferguson Join #ferguson to discuss the nigger riots breaking out across the US> |
| 06:57.11 | Airwrecka | The stupid niggers are running wild |
| 06:57.17 | phy1729 | !ops Airwrecka |
| 06:57.17 | Airwrecka | and need to be put back into the monkeycage |
| 06:57.17 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: phy1729 complains about: Airwrecka |
| 06:57.27 | Airwrecka | Join us to discuss this pressing issue |
| 06:57.31 | Airwrecka | Join #ferguson |
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| 06:57.43 | Airwrecka | get tips on how to protect your family |
| 06:57.48 | Airwrecka | from the nigger menace |
| 06:57.49 | Airwrecka | #ferguson Join #ferguson to discuss the nigger riots breaking out across the US> |
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| 07:00.49 | cloudowind | guys where it goes when i do a print screen ?where the default saving directory? |
| 07:00.52 | cloudowind | couldnt find it |
| 07:01.38 | sexyboy | what is your de/wm? |
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| 07:01.49 | sexyboy | it depends on it |
| 07:02.01 | brentaarnold | Is anyone else having issues in Debian Jessie with watching YouTube videos in Google Chrome? |
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| 07:03.27 | cloudowind | sexyboy: where? |
| 07:03.39 | cloudowind | its not in user home folder |
| 07:03.57 | sexyboy | what is your DESKTOP ENVIRONMENT OR WINDOW MANAGER |
| 07:04.00 | cloudowind | what name it gets ?is the name it default gets depends on the version of debian i use too? |
| 07:04.05 | cloudowind | gnome |
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| 07:04.31 | sexyboy | i don't use gnome since 3, sorry |
| 07:04.35 | cloudowind | ... |
| 07:04.46 | sexyboy | but you can install a simple text screenshooter called scrot |
| 07:05.11 | sexyboy | it can do the job pretty well and you specify where to save the file when you invoke it |
| 07:05.26 | sexyboy | just note that it's a text tool but needs X to work |
| 07:05.36 | sexyboy | so it wont work in plain text mode |
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| 07:05.44 | sexyboy | nor framebuffer console |
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| 07:06.39 | sexyboy | bbl |
| 07:07.34 | cloudowind | ty |
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| 07:12.13 | brentaarnold | Anyone else having trouble watching YouTube videos in Debian Jessie/Google Chrome? |
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| 07:13.30 | cynicallemon | no |
| 07:13.40 | cynicallemon | on sid here though |
| 07:13.55 | brentaarnold | Ah, hmm. |
| 07:14.51 | cynicallemon | has it just started happening or new install? |
| 07:15.16 | brentaarnold | Well, it's not necessarily a new install, but it did just start happening. |
| 07:15.34 | brentaarnold | It wasn't happening prior to a couple of weeks ago |
| 07:15.43 | cynicallemon | and its chrome, not chromium? |
| 07:16.46 | brentaarnold | That's correct. |
| 07:17.09 | cynicallemon | have you tried removing and installing again? |
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| 07:17.48 | brentaarnold | No, I've just recently started to have the problem and I've been working so much I just haven't had the energy to fight another computer issue lol. |
| 07:18.05 | cynicallemon | :) |
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| 07:18.11 | brentaarnold | (Although, ironically, that's exactly what I'm here doing) |
| 07:18.20 | cynicallemon | lol |
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| 07:18.58 | cynicallemon | is it just youtube? |
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| 07:59.54 | p3rror | hello |
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| 08:00.14 | p3rror | is there any framework for linux kernel modulea udit |
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| 08:05.18 | zetheroo | I have setup a simple Debian Jessie machine and am trying to install GDL - but the package doesn't seem to exist ... |
| 08:06.36 | turbosquint | what is gdl |
| 08:06.59 | zetheroo | GNU Data Language |
| 08:07.05 | zetheroo | https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=gdl |
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| 08:08.10 | zetheroo | ok - I guess the package "gir1.2-gdl-3" is there ... I was trying to use tab completion which wasn't working for some reason |
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| 08:12.39 | mlq | zetheroo: libgdl? |
| 08:12.52 | zetheroo | mlq, |
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| 08:12.58 | zetheroo | gir1.2-gdl-3 seems to have been right |
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| 08:23.33 | owen1 | i modified .Xmodmap and run xmodmap ~/.Xmodmap but my change doesn't apply (keycode 115 = Pointer_Button2 NoSymbol Pointer_Button2) how to troubleshoot this? |
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| 08:25.45 | edoardo | hello |
| 08:26.08 | edoardo | i have a Presario CQ61 with Debian on it |
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| 08:26.25 | edoardo | the backlight always worked until the latest install, where it doesn't work anymore |
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| 09:19.40 | sieve | Hi, I am trying to make the case for Debian as a cloud operating system for our company. We currently use debian internally but it is facing some stiff opposition from Centos7 due to its SELinux / Docker integration. |
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| 09:20.09 | sieve | I understand Debians unique selling point is security |
| 09:20.13 | sieve | and stability |
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| 09:20.36 | sieve | But Im having problems quantifying that |
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| 09:32.40 | p3rror | hello |
| 09:32.49 | p3rror | when I run systemdctl |
| 09:32.54 | p3rror | I get command not found |
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| 09:39.59 | tm512 | p3rror: pretty sure you're thinking of systemctl |
| 09:40.02 | tm512 | without the d |
| 09:40.10 | rTypo | what is the default init program on debian testing (jessie)? sysvinit xor systemd? |
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| 09:41.10 | cloudowind | p3rror: p3rror it doesnt comes by default hey?i dont have that command , you must have added it later or something?not with apt-get?and have you tried to find the folder of the program and run from there? |
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| 09:42.00 | rTypo | i don't know how to find that out by myself (where to search) |
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| 09:43.09 | jelly | rTypo: systemd |
| 09:43.12 | cloudowind | shamann: shamnism also known as the real religion of turks :D and shamnisim known as turks basically , before they had to involved with islam |
| 09:43.23 | cloudowind | well its not a religion tho |
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| 09:44.21 | cloudowind | tm512: i got Sysctl |
| 09:45.02 | cloudowind | NAME sysctl - configure kernel parameters at runtime |
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| 09:46.05 | tm512 | that's differenth though |
| 09:46.18 | macrobat | cloudowind: so, it's something else |
| 09:46.27 | cloudowind | ok sorry |
| 09:46.35 | mar77i | tengri... you're making me read wikipedia, man |
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| 09:50.10 | ychaouche | Hello ! I am confronted to what seems to be a recurrent problem : say I need a file called X, a binary, apt-cache search X doesn't give any results. Is there a specific command to ask my system to search for packets that contain the file X ? |
| 09:50.50 | ychaouche | I downloaded apt-file and also did run apt-file search X, also didn't give any results, even after apt-file update. |
| 09:51.44 | ychaouche | the X in question is php-cgi. |
| 09:51.50 | osram | ychaouche: dpkg -S /full/path/to/file |
| 09:52.08 | ychaouche | osram: would that work for uninstalled packages ? |
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| 09:52.17 | osram | ychaouche: No. |
| 09:52.18 | ychaouche | you see the whole point is to install the package containing that file. |
| 09:52.22 | rTypo | ychaouche: in arch linux i had the tool 'pkgfile' for that |
| 09:52.39 | ychaouche | rTypo: in mageia I had urpmf which did just that (and worked fine) |
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| 09:54.10 | osram | ychaouche: apt-file will do what you're after |
| 09:54.25 | ychaouche | osram: [10:49] <ychaouche> I downloaded apt-file and also did run apt-file search X, also didn't give any results, even after apt-file update. |
| 09:54.45 | osram | ychaouche: what file were you searching for? |
| 09:55.04 | ychaouche | osram: 10:50] <ychaouche> the X in question is php-cgi. |
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| 09:55.55 | ychaouche | https://gist.github.com/ychaouche/1f5c29917fa33bb87087 |
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| 09:56.23 | osram | ychaouche: that tells me that there is no such file. |
| 09:56.43 | ychaouche | osram: although it exists |
| 09:56.47 | ychaouche | osram: it is in php5-cgi |
| 09:56.51 | osram | ychaouche: It's probably called something like php5-cgi |
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| 09:56.54 | ychaouche | and installed as /usr/bin/php-cgi |
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| 09:57.01 | ychaouche | osram: yes but how would I know ? |
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| 09:57.29 | osram | ychaouche: by slightly varying your search terms and possibly grepping the results - that's how I just found php5-cgi |
| 09:57.34 | rTypo | ychaouche: there exists php5-cgi maybe that'll do? |
| 09:58.03 | osram | ychaouche: It's possible that php-cgi is a symlink to php5-cgi that gets created in the post.inst script |
| 09:58.09 | osram | ychaouche: but I'm guessing here |
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| 09:59.48 | ychaouche | rTypo: osram: yes I eventually installed php5-cgi. But I want to make sure that in the future it gets more straightforward and avoid guess work as much as possible. |
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| 10:00.22 | ychaouche | osram: you were right : /usr/bin/php-cgi: symbolic link to `/etc/alternatives/php-cgi |
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| 10:00.37 | ychaouche | etc/alternatives/php-cgi: symbolic link to `/usr/bin/php5-cgi' |
| 10:00.40 | osram | ychaouche: there you go. Just be a bit creative with your search terms. |
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| 10:02.15 | ChrisH | Is there a smart way to verify a Debian installation for consistency after filesystem corruption issues? |
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| 10:02.32 | yossarianuk | hi - is this the right place to ask about deb package building ? |
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| 10:03.22 | yossarianuk | i am trying to convert from rpm -> deb via alien - its works fine except the postinst/posrrm bits... |
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| 10:03.58 | yossarianuk | the issue is, is that the rpm %post install script uses 'if [ $1 -eq 1 ]; then' |
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| 10:04.10 | yossarianuk | this creates an interger error when converted. |
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| 10:04.48 | yossarianuk | can anyone confirm if 'if [ $1 -eq 1 ]; then' is the same as 'if [ "$1" = "configure" ]; then' |
| 10:04.55 | osram | ChrisH: you could install debsums and run debsums -s <package> to verify package files. |
| 10:05.11 | yossarianuk | (if there is a better place to ask please let me know) |
| 10:05.43 | osram | ChrisH: but if you've had corruption, the debian packages (which you can re-download at any time) are probably the least of your worries |
| 10:06.29 | yossarianuk | i.e - postinst postrm and prerm scripts all use similar syntax and error when converted |
| 10:06.32 | rTypo | yossarianuk: hm, they don't seem equal to me. a better place to ask would be #bash, maybe? |
| 10:06.32 | yossarianuk | i.e 'postrm: line 2: [: purge: integer expression expected' |
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| 10:06.53 | yossarianuk | rTypo: ok thanks |
| 10:07.06 | sieve | What is the current kernel version in Stable? |
| 10:07.27 | sieve | I cant see it in packages.debian.org |
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| 10:08.12 | yossarianuk | 3.2.x |
| 10:08.23 | yossarianuk | sieve: 3.2.x ,... |
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| 10:09.22 | yossarianuk | rTypo: just so you know - its trying to identify if a previous version existed . |
| 10:09.35 | yossarianuk | rTypo: perhaps there is a better debian way ? |
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| 10:11.56 | rTypo | yossarianuk: sorry, i don't know (i'm also new to debian)! hope someone else knows, doesn't seem too hard |
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| 10:15.16 | SynrGy | ,kernels |
| 10:15.18 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.17.0-trunk-686-pae (3.17.4-1~exp1); sid: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-2); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-2); wheezy-backports: 3.16-0.bpo.3-686-pae (3.16.5-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.63-2+deb7u1); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.63-2+deb7u1~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze6) |
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| 10:16.54 | ChrisH | osram: I found some logfiles beeing mixed up. Thats something I can cope with as long as the rest of the installation is fine. |
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| 10:18.15 | osram | ChrisH: fair enough. |
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| 10:20.14 | julianbob | Hello, I can't restart mysql [Note] Server socket created on IP: '127.0.0.1'. |
| 10:20.14 | julianbob | [ERROR] Can't start server: Bind on TCP/IP port: Cannot assign requested address |
| 10:20.15 | julianbob | [ERROR] Do you already have another mysqld server running on port: 3306 ? |
| 10:20.15 | julianbob | ERROR] Aborting |
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| 10:20.58 | rTypo | yossarianuk: there also is #debian on the irc.debian.org server (699 users currently) |
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| 10:21.16 | tomodachi | any one know of any nice software for file uploading to a site over https(1) |
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| 10:22.06 | rTypo | tomodachi: i think cURL knows how to use SSL |
| 10:22.22 | rTypo | ohh uploading, |
| 10:23.32 | rTypo | tomodachi: so cURL can upload to https apparently. just an option |
| 10:25.02 | tomodachi | rTypo: im thinkin of something web based for customers to use |
| 10:25.12 | tomodachi | to upload stuff to me over http(s) |
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| 10:25.27 | tomodachi | like some web ui allowing them to upload from their local computer basically |
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| 10:26.16 | jolt | tomodachi: for filesharing? Or just in one direction? |
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| 10:26.24 | tomodachi | jolt: just one direction is fine |
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| 10:26.42 | tomodachi | but i guess two directions wouldnt hurt |
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| 10:27.33 | yossarianuk | rTypo: cheers ! |
| 10:27.45 | jolt | tomodachi: A friend made this one for simple file sharing. We use it internally: https://github.com/the-louie/simple-file-sharer |
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| 10:27.58 | jolt | node js stuff |
| 10:28.24 | tomodachi | jolt: thnx ill look at it right away, this would be public, so it being stable and secure is always a nice thing |
| 10:28.48 | jolt | tomodachi: Yeah. If you mainly do uploads, then I usually just use something like this: http://www.w3schools.com/php/php_file_upload.asp |
| 10:29.20 | tomodachi | or a web based sftp client would work (i already have a complete solution working over sftp, with home folders ldap integration etc) |
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| 10:34.48 | wrksx | hey guys |
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| 10:35.03 | wrksx | I'd like to save some files over ftp from a shell script |
| 10:35.23 | wrksx | I saw there's a way to use the ftp command/client in a script |
| 10:35.25 | quantum-x | Hey all. To install a .deb file, it's dpkg -i [name.deb] - is there a switch for dependancies as well ? |
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| 10:36.03 | wrksx | but is there a way to use use something like scp ? |
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| 10:36.44 | ChrisH | osram: debsums looks fine. |
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| 10:38.17 | osram | ChrisH: \o/ |
| 10:39.34 | tomodachi | wrksx: lftp supports scripting commands |
| 10:39.51 | tomodachi | wrksx: scp is of course better to use when possible |
| 10:40.11 | wrksx | tomodachi: but scp cannot use ftp protocol, can it ? |
| 10:40.51 | tomodachi | wrksx: no, but you know that ftp is crap right?! , no security, has problems with traversing through firewalls |
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| 10:41.15 | tomodachi | so if you can choose to set up something else, do so |
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| 10:41.25 | wrksx | tomodachi: yes but I have a backup space on ftp provided by my hoster |
| 10:41.37 | wrksx | tomodachi: I want to use that to store some backup files |
| 10:42.08 | tomodachi | just realize that possibly anyone else on the internet has a copy of your backup since you are sending it unencrypted |
| 10:42.21 | wrksx | tomodachi: lol |
| 10:42.30 | wrksx | too lol |
| 10:42.39 | wrksx | tomodachi: okay then |
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| 10:42.48 | wrksx | tomodachi: I'll live with it |
| 10:43.07 | wrksx | tomodachi: I suppose there is no way to make ftp a bit more secure ? |
| 10:43.19 | tomodachi | wrksx: lftp -f name_of_script_file |
| 10:43.26 | babilen | quantum-x: No, there is not. dpkg does *not* deal with dependencies (that is what apt* are for). You can, however, run "apt-get -f install" to remedy the situation. What exactly are you trying to achieve? |
| 10:43.41 | tomodachi | wrksx: ftps , but its not so commonly used, check with your provider, perhaps they even offer sftp instead if you ask |
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| 10:43.46 | yossarianuk | essentially I would like to know if there is a debian way of added a check on the .postinst script that check if its a new version or an upgrade - anyone know ? |
| 10:43.56 | babilen | quantum-x: I mean you should, unless absolutely necessary, not install random .deb files from the internet anyway. |
| 10:44.32 | wrksx | tomodachi: kay. Thx for your input |
| 10:45.08 | quantum-x | babilen, it's zabbix built for rsberry pi |
| 10:45.16 | quantum-x | there's no official up to date binaries for the RPI |
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| 10:45.44 | babilen | quantum-x: You are using vanilla Debian on a RPI? |
| 10:45.49 | babilen | I'd recommend raspbian: |
| 10:45.53 | babilen | dpkg: raspbian |
| 10:45.53 | dpkg | Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/ |
| 10:45.58 | quantum-x | I'm using raspbian :) |
| 10:46.14 | babilen | Ah, wrong channel then |
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| 10:46.58 | AlexPortable | How can I install nodejs on debian? |
| 10:47.00 | jeredepp | i want to delete files older than 1 days and in a specific pattern, but it seems to ignore my regex supplied by sed, any ideas or other kind of inspiration? find /path/to/parent/ -type f -mtime +1 -print0 2> /dev/null | sed -n '/cache\/[A-Za-z]*\/[A-Za-z]*\/images/g' | xargs -0 ls |
| 10:47.01 | AlexPortable | it's not in the packages anywhere |
| 10:47.18 | babilen | quantum-x: zabbix is available in Debian, but please ask in #raspbian |
| 10:47.22 | jeredepp | note ls is just a substitute for rm in my case |
| 10:47.36 | quantum-x | babilen, yeah, v1.8 :) |
| 10:47.41 | quantum-x | which is end of lifecycle :) |
| 10:47.41 | babilen | What did #sed say? |
| 10:47.55 | quantum-x | but I apprecite the assistance :) |
| 10:47.56 | babilen | quantum-x: 2.2.5, but anyway |
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| 10:48.08 | osram | quantum-x: I'd dpkg -i the package, then run apt-get install -f to bring in dependencies. |
| 10:48.13 | jeredepp | babilen: it works when i don't use -print0 |
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| 10:48.20 | quantum-x | Oh yeah? Mine was saying 1.8, I guess I need to update |
| 10:48.28 | quantum-x | osram, thank you also :) |
| 10:48.38 | babilen | quantum-x: Please ask #raspbian. Your distribution based on Debian is not supported here |
| 10:48.54 | quantum-x | babilen, so you said, thank you. |
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| 10:49.15 | quantum-x | My question was related to .deb, you weasled out the context ;) |
| 10:49.26 | quantum-x | like I say, I appreciate your assistance and time :) |
| 10:49.28 | osram | quantum-x: it's worth asking there, they might point you at packages that suit raspian perfectly. |
| 10:49.41 | quantum-x | understood, thank you kindly :- |
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| 10:57.46 | RLa | how to get start menu for kde in jessie? |
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| 10:58.41 | ychaouche | I have downloaded a debian package (.deb file) and want to install it AND its dependenies. dpkg -i didn't install the dependencies. Any hints ? |
| 10:58.58 | quantum-x | :D |
| 10:59.11 | quantum-x | /me nudges babilen |
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| 10:59.38 | quantum-x | ychaouche, http://askubuntu.com/questions/79767/automatically-solve-dependencies-of-deb-packages-while-using-dpkg-i |
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| 10:59.57 | Brigo | ychaouche, try gdebi |
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| 11:00.17 | wrksx | does tar compresses ? |
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| 11:00.59 | turbosquint | wrksx: not by itself but it can call bzip2 or gzip and compress |
| 11:01.10 | turbosquint | or maybe even xz |
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| 11:01.16 | ychaouche | wrksx: good question. tar archives but I don't know wether there's any compression when archiving. |
| 11:01.34 | Burps | Hi, I have a python process (offlineimap) that is cronified to run every 5 min. Sometimes, the process keeps running, and need to be "killed -9" : Do you know how I could do that ? monit ? |
| 11:01.44 | ychaouche | I don't even know why we use tar at all. Why don't we just ust bzip2 or gzip ? |
| 11:01.54 | ychaouche | s/ust/use/ |
| 11:02.05 | wrksx | I always thought it doesn't compress at all, just group things in a signle file |
| 11:02.12 | turbosquint | Burps: ps ax, get the pid, kill |
| 11:02.39 | wrksx | maybe when you gzip a folder, it is archived by tar under the hood |
| 11:02.40 | turbosquint | ychaouche: because bzip or gzip can compress only a single file a time |
| 11:02.53 | turbosquint | ychaouche: tar builds a package, gzip compressess |
| 11:02.53 | wrksx | makes sense |
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| 11:03.08 | Burps | turbosquint: that's what I manually do, when I see it failing : I would like some sort of program that could detect it itself |
| 11:03.10 | Brigo | ychaouche, bzip2 or gzip does not group things in a single file |
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| 11:03.24 | turbosquint | Burps: write a bash script |
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| 11:05.57 | ychaouche | turbosquint: Brigo: Indeed. I was surprised by the output of gzip -r :) |
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| 11:06.12 | venkat_330 | I had some netwtork issues with my debian 6 (2.6.32) and to sort this i switched myself realtek website driver r8169. |
| 11:06.12 | venkat_330 | i did install and it works with my master system. |
| 11:06.12 | venkat_330 | So, we are planning to disribute to some client machines. What is suggested method to perform this distribution. |
| 11:06.46 | venkat_330 | r8169 = *r8168 |
| 11:07.00 | turbosquint | venkat_330: use backported kernel and firmware |
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| 11:08.16 | Brigo | venkat_330, i would do a package, may be with checkinstall or something else |
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| 11:10.39 | nwillems | Hey there. I'm trying to install debian onto some older hardware(Athlon XP 1800), but is doesn't seem to like my USB stick |
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| 11:11.02 | nwillems | Is there anything I could do to test the USB stick or? |
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| 11:11.45 | trem0r | need more info |
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| 11:13.10 | babilen | dpkg: tell nwillems -about usb install |
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| 11:16.33 | nwillems | trem0r: I have downloaded the netinst image and ran `dd if=debian.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4M` and then `sync`, I shortly tried booting my laptop from it, but I guess the UEFI stuff ruins it :-) |
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| 11:17.42 | petn-randall | nwillems: Details! Details matter. "ruins it" is not a problem description. |
| 11:18.35 | petn-randall | nwillems: Debian will boot/install with UEFI fine (as long as secure boot is deactivated). You'll need to tell us about any errors you get, etc. |
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| 11:19.39 | nwillems | petn-randall: to be precise, I booted my laptop and chose alternative boot-medium, then selected the USB and it jsut started booting my regular OS. same thing happens when trying on the target machine, no errors shown, just the screen saying trying Floppy, Trying CD.. until it boots the existing OS. |
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| 11:20.44 | hulksmash | hi |
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| 11:22.03 | hulksmash | anyone know of where to study linux for free? |
| 11:22.15 | nwillems | petn-randall: thats sort of the problem, I dont really have that many details. Thats why I started asking if the machine was compatible. |
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| 11:24.38 | jelly | hulksmash: google for "open courses linux", sample result: https://www.edx.org/course/introduction-to-linux-linuxfoundationx-lfs101x-2 |
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| 11:30.24 | venkat_330 | Brigo: Whiel installing , i ahd blacklist my existing driver ...Will that all be handles with check install?? |
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| 11:31.12 | quantum-x | I have another noob question: I'm trying to set the hostname of my box to its CPU ID. The CPUID I get from > grep -Po '^Serial\s*:\s*\K[[:xdigit:]]{16}' /proc/cpuinfo - how can I pipe that to hostname ? |
| 11:31.20 | petn-randall | nwillems: A common mistake with boot images is to do of=/dev/sdb1 instead of sdb. If you're sure you did it right, I'd dig in the UEFI settings to find a way to boot from USB. Turning "Try alternative boot media" off will make sure it doesn't boot from disk, and you might see the actual error message. |
| 11:31.44 | osram | quantum-x: add '> /etc/hostname' to the end |
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| 11:32.00 | Brigo | venkat_330, i thin for that kind of thing you will need to build a dpkg package for yourself. There is some find manual out there. |
| 11:32.22 | ChrisH | quantum-x: that does not work for my box... so be carefull assuming things |
| 11:32.47 | quantum-x | osram, nice, here was me tring to work out how to feed it to the hostname program |
| 11:32.55 | Brigo | venkat_330, may be this: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/html_single/Debian-Binary-Package-Building-HOWTO/ or thishttps://wiki.debian.org/es/IntroDebianPackaging |
| 11:32.56 | nwillems | petn-randall: The target machine does not have UEFI. But its an old AMD Athlon XP machine(K7, means anything?), I might be off, but it seems that it might not be supported? |
| 11:33.03 | quantum-x | ChrisH, heard loud and clear, thank you |
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| 11:33.28 | ThatGuy_ | Hey all, could someone please advise on giving a normal user access to read a log file owned by root using visudo - if at all possible, without having to change the ownership permissions of the actual log file. |
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| 11:34.04 | quantum-x | osram, hm, running 'hostname' after still returns a different name |
| 11:35.02 | quantum-x | ah, seems like that gets parsed on boot, ok |
| 11:35.45 | osram | quantum-x: yep, it makes the hostname persistent across reboots. If you want instant gratification you'll need to use the hostname command. |
| 11:35.55 | quantum-x | osram, permanent is good :) |
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| 11:37.26 | osram | quantum-x: if after piping your output into /etc/hostname you run hostname -F /etc/hostname, chances are your hostname gets set then and there. |
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| 11:38.16 | quantum-x | that makes sense too :) |
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| 11:49.36 | cloudowind | good night fellows |
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| 12:32.57 | ChrisH | quantum-x: Some processes cache the hostname and might produce unpredictible results. so a reboot would be recommended |
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| 12:41.23 | quantum-x | ChrisH: OK, thank you :) good to nkow |
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| 13:09.57 | AlexPortable | someone can help me out with LTSP? |
| 13:10.04 | AlexPortable | following this tutorial https://wiki.debian.org/LTSP/Howto |
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| 13:10.11 | AlexPortable | but the command ltsp-build-client isn't available |
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| 13:17.02 | mar77i | cuckoo |
| 13:17.06 | mar77i | \o/ |
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| 13:19.14 | Lachezar | Hey all. Is it possible to build a dummy package that would 'provide' an existing package? |
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| 13:19.50 | mar77i | oh, wrong channel xD |
| 13:20.04 | mar77i | yup, still +s |
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| 13:20.56 | dancn | hello, anybody knows about the api of snapshot.debian.org? The available doc http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/mirror/snapshot.debian.org.git/plain/API seems outdated. I am looking for a request like http://snapshot.debian.org/mr/file/hash/6b1d46faa3cfa17fe28315fa00c63374/info but I get a 404 error |
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| 13:25.01 | lila_a1 | Hello guys, I have a device called "Volksbox Movie 5750i" with an android 2.2 system. My goal is to modify the "firmware".fw file for my purposes, so I could add android apps and stuff. But I fail at the first step: Extracting/Opening the *.fw file, maybe someone could help out. Thanks |
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| 13:26.04 | hjolt | How come the gnome3 try icons are on the bottom on the screen? Sort of an awkward position, is there any way to move them to the top panel ? |
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| 13:26.11 | hjolt | tray* icons |
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| 13:27.40 | abrotman | hjolt: maybe with an extension |
| 13:27.52 | Lachezar | lila_a1: this is probably a streamed image of the firmware typically in memory-order, and commonly cryptographically signed. Modifying firwamre files is a very long shot. |
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| 13:35.49 | j0z | sorry all |
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| 13:49.38 | eristisk | I would like to configure Security updates in my sources.list from a German source in .de |
| 13:49.51 | eristisk | Are there any local European mirrors for security.debian.org repos? |
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| 14:01.56 | linuxator | is debian rolling release? |
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| 14:02.55 | eristisk | linuxator: Debian stable is not. There are testing and unstable branches of Debian that are rolling release, however. |
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| 14:12.55 | MasterPiece | Where is source of the bots which logged in this channel ? |
| 14:13.00 | MasterPiece | !help |
| 14:13.03 | MasterPiece | !bot |
| 14:13.03 | dpkg | I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse). |
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| 14:17.19 | xen | I have a problem with unmet dependencies (perl) when trying to install mysql-server on a freshly installed debian 7.7 |
| 14:17.29 | xen | can anyone help? |
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| 14:18.05 | MasterPiece | !dependency | xen |
| 14:18.17 | MasterPiece | !dependency , xen |
| 14:18.19 | MasterPiece | !dependency |
| 14:18.37 | MasterPiece | !dependency |
| 14:18.38 | dpkg | A dependency is a package needed by another package. Dependencies are pointed out by dpkg. Dependencies are resolved by apt-get/aptitude/synaptic. Packages are listed as dependencies for a good reason... if you think you don't need that package, then most likely you don't know what "dependency" means. Go look it up and ask me about <policy>. |
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| 14:20.50 | xen | Masterpiece: I knew that. but aptitude cant resolve the dependency, and I cant install it seperately either (libdbi-perl), I have added a few sources to my /etc/apt/sources list, but no success |
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| 14:21.20 | MasterPiece | xen, R U try with $ apt-get build-dep mysql-server ? |
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| 14:21.49 | MasterPiece | xen, clear your sources.list of every dirty thing ! Debian sources will be enough for ALL type of your works |
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| 14:23.55 | Lachezar | created a dummy .deb that 'Provides: libunity9' to work around unexpected dependency from Pidgin to libuntiy9. *takes a deep breath and looks around for a challenge* |
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| 14:32.06 | yossarianuk | <PROTECTED> |
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| 14:32.25 | yossarianuk | in the RPM the %post, etc install scripts all start off with 'if [ $1 -eq 1 ]; then' |
| 14:32.33 | yossarianuk | his causes debian to error with - '.postinst: line 2: [: configure: integer expression expected' |
| 14:32.38 | yossarianuk | Is there a way to convert 'if [ $1 -eq 1 ]; then' -> a postinst script ? |
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| 14:41.04 | abrotman | ugh, please only ask one channel |
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| 14:45.17 | autopilot | hi, i'd like to know how debian build their arm package repositories: do they cross compile them or build them natively on arms? |
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| 14:49.43 | Brigo | autopilot, try in debian-devel in oftc irc network, may be they know that. |
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| 14:55.33 | autopilot | Brigo: thanks, will give it a try |
| 14:55.45 | Brigo | autopilot, good luck :) |
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| 15:00.27 | klaxa|work | so, we are having memory leaks with libvirt from backports because of libnetcf, there is a patch, but it's not in stable and apparently you can't just backport the libnetcf package (see: https://lists.debian.org/debian-backports/2014/05/msg00120.html). |
| 15:00.45 | klaxa|work | what is the best we can do? |
| 15:01.10 | klaxa|work | for the time being we patched the stable-package with the memory leak patch |
| 15:01.13 | wrksx | do you guys think one day acl can replace the standard permission system ? |
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| 15:02.48 | wrksx | because the standard permission system is so hard to tweak |
| 15:04.25 | abrotman | hard to tweak for what? |
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| 15:05.17 | wrksx | abrotman: for a user to make a db backup for example |
| 15:05.43 | petn-randall | wrksx: The one is complimentary to the other, they don't compete. |
| 15:05.57 | ChrisH | wrksx: If normal filesystem permissions are hard.... keep of ACLs |
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| 15:06.51 | wrksx | ChrisH: it's hard because it is not *that* flexible |
| 15:07.07 | DammitJim | how do I unmount network mounts that are hung? |
| 15:07.35 | wrksx | petn-randall: maybe they are, i never used ACL but sometime someone says to me like "ACL would be an easier way to do that" |
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| 15:08.47 | petn-randall | wrksx: It's not that difficult. It's pretty much one of the first things that get taught in general "Linux" books. |
| 15:09.13 | wrksx | petn-randall: you're talking about acl ? |
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| 15:09.41 | klaxa|work | probably unix permissions |
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| 15:10.13 | klaxa|work | wait... nvm |
| 15:10.13 | ChrisH | wrksx: I only remember ACLs from my time in HP/UX support and ACLs was no fun at all. Neither in Solaris ... I keep away from ACLs whereever I have the chance to. |
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| 15:10.28 | petn-randall | wrksx: I'm talking about unix file permissions and ACLs for files/directories, yes. |
| 15:11.02 | wrksx | petn-randall: okay. Could you just elaborate on what makes them complementary, if not too busy ? |
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| 15:11.58 | wrksx | ChrisH: yeah I guess ACL would be a bit more 'complex', but all in all very flexible |
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| 15:13.10 | petn-randall | wrksx: You can't have ACLs without unix permissions. ACLs are just a way of adding more permissions than the unix permissions can hold (which is only "user":"group":"other") |
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| 15:13.33 | ChrisH | wrksx: I allways found a way with standard unix permissions to all problems |
| 15:14.02 | petn-randall | ChrisH: Without breaking security? |
| 15:14.18 | ChrisH | petn-randall: normally yes. |
| 15:14.59 | Lope | nfsstat -m doesn't find both of my connected NFS clients (it finds one only) (the client that is invisible is reading and writing files, confirmed on the server) any idea wtf? |
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| 15:16.22 | wrksx | petn-randall: hum okay I see what you mean. I might read about ACL now in order to have a real idea what ACL is. anyway thanks for your thoughts |
| 15:16.36 | ChrisH | Lope: nfsstat -m is a NFS client side command, not server side |
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| 15:17.26 | ChrisH | Lope: showmount -a is the serverside one |
| 15:17.27 | pfote | is there a smart way in crontab to specify "run every day, except nov. 27th"? or do i have to [..]25,26,28,29,30,31 ... ? |
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| 15:17.34 | Lope | ChrisH: it works on my server though |
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| 15:18.28 | ChrisH | Lope: show the 2 commands + df -h on server on paste.debian.net please |
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| 15:19.46 | Lope | hmm, I think I've found the problem http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=5275376#post5275376 |
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| 15:20.05 | Brigo | pfote, i think you can use 1-26, 28-31. |
| 15:20.06 | Lope | oh, sorry, I meant to delete "I think I found the problem", I didn't. |
| 15:20.07 | SPF | pfote: please read man 5 crontab |
| 15:20.43 | pfote | Brigo: tnx, that was it, to blind to see |
| 15:20.48 | pfote | SPF: i did :-) |
| 15:20.55 | manfoo7 | Hi all, I have a question about linkage. Does debian commit to compiling packages with gcc? |
| 15:20.58 | Brigo | pfote, ;) |
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| 15:22.50 | Lope | it looks like my NFSD isn't listening on the correct ports. |
| 15:23.40 | ChrisH | Lope: if not NFS V4 its rpc.mountd to keep track of client information |
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| 15:25.46 | Lope | ChrisH How many ports do I need to offer NFSv3 and NFSv4? |
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| 15:26.08 | Lope | different guides suggest different ports. So I'm a bit confused about what the standard prots are. |
| 15:26.37 | Lope | and also hows the client supposed to guess what port the NFS server uses? |
| 15:26.44 | ChrisH | Lope: I do not like to talk about Ports really. NFS is RPC based and only rpc programm numbers are important. But nfsd is on 2049 (V2-V4) |
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| 15:27.10 | ChrisH | add rpcinfo -p nfs-server to the pastestuff |
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| 15:27.37 | brentaarnold | Has anyone else had issues watching YT videos/streaming media on Debian Jessie (Google Chrome, specifically) |
| 15:27.53 | Lope | you say NFSD is on 2049, but this file suggests using port 2048, but then it also suggests 2046 and 2047 |
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| 15:28.19 | Bastihase | now guys i search users they have intresst to made an new net and link unrealircd servers .. PN to Bastihase :) |
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| 15:29.38 | HollyCowOS | theres an new robotlinux update |
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| 15:30.42 | HollyCowOS | there are no channels with the word robot on this network |
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| 15:30.53 | HollyCowOS | shame |
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| 15:31.32 | jhutchins | HollyCowOS: The four of you should get together and start one. |
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| 15:32.05 | ChrisH | Lope: IF the nfs client implemenation is OK, then the port is not important. Paste what I asked for and we can discus based on facts |
| 15:32.07 | HollyCowOS | four of what? |
| 15:32.09 | Lope | http://codepad.org/95iAVaGO |
| 15:32.27 | Lope | what are those status ports 35937 and 54922 I've not set those anywhere. |
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| 15:33.16 | HollyCowOS | theres no per app firewall rules on linux :P |
| 15:33.44 | HollyCowOS | this is available on windows since winxp sp1 |
| 15:33.51 | HollyCowOS | :D |
| 15:34.16 | Lope | HollyCowOS: you're talking BS, google iptables. |
| 15:34.22 | jhutchins | Lope: A lot of protocols negotiate a connection over a standard port but then make the actual connection and traffic over a random port within a range. |
| 15:34.23 | HollyCowOS | i recon thats why NSA loves linux |
| 15:34.48 | Lope | jhutchins: I'm using a port based firewall |
| 15:34.49 | HollyCowOS | its so chaty |
| 15:34.56 | jhutchins | Lope: NFS can be run on pretty much any port, it usually uses a privileged port for negotiation and an unprivileged one for the connection. |
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| 15:35.18 | Lope | jhutchins: how can I tell NFS to use a standard port for status? |
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| 15:35.52 | ChrisH | Lope: I prefer to have you read, understand and then work. I asked for rpcinfo -p SERVER ; df -h ; nfsstat -m ; showmount -a ON the server |
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| 15:36.46 | HollyCowOS | theres no per app firewall rules on linux |
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| 15:36.54 | HollyCowOS | FACT |
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| 15:38.58 | jhutchins | Lope: Don't tell it to use something else. |
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| 15:39.35 | jhutchins | HollyCowOS: That's because the linux network stack is completely different, and there's no reason to have a "per app firewall". |
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| 15:39.37 | Lope | showmount -a localhost: http://codepad.org/huGtQi18 |
| 15:40.05 | Lope | ChrisH: rpcinfo -p http://codepad.org/95iAVaGO |
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| 15:41.39 | ChrisH | Lope: Why not simply put them into one paste? rpcinfo -p looks OK as long as this was executed on the server... showmount -a shows 3 clients having mounts |
| 15:41.54 | HollyCowOS | "theres no reason" = personel opinion |
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| 15:42.42 | abrotman | HollyCowOS: Do you need help with Debian? |
| 15:43.00 | HollyCowOS | whats your problem? |
| 15:43.02 | ioudas | actually there can be defined apps |
| 15:43.04 | ioudas | in linux firewalls |
| 15:43.10 | ioudas | shorewall is an example |
| 15:43.11 | HollyCowOS | im here to help you |
| 15:43.21 | abrotman | HollyCowOS: No, you're not heping anyone. |
| 15:43.25 | abrotman | helping even |
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| 15:43.55 | Lope | ChrisH: df -h: http://codepad.org/FhTaC29t |
| 15:43.56 | HollyCowOS | thats your personal opinoin and i respect that |
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| 15:44.13 | abrotman | HollyCowOS: please spam your OS somewhere else, this channel is for Debian support, Have a nice day |
| 15:44.16 | Lope | not a bad idea, next time |
| 15:45.05 | ChrisH | Lope: So now back to the initial question. What does not work as expected? I forgot the initial question |
| 15:45.25 | Lope | okay, when I run nfsiostats it only shows the first mount. |
| 15:45.29 | Lope | not the other two. |
| 15:45.44 | Lope | or nfsstat -m it only shows the first as well. |
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| 15:47.33 | Lope | does NFS not keep TCP connections open? |
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| 15:47.54 | Lope | because I don't see any ESTABLISHED TCP connections that look like NFS. |
| 15:48.06 | ChrisH | Lope: nfsstat -m <-- must be run ob the client side ; nfsiostats <-- client side command. |
| 15:48.39 | Lope | ChrisH oh. well that explains a lot. |
| 15:48.40 | ChrisH | Lope: netstat -an | grep 2049 |
| 15:48.58 | Lope | how can I check how much reads and writes my NFS clients have done? |
| 15:49.37 | ChrisH | Lope: nfsstat -s #on the SERVER |
| 15:49.45 | Lope | netstat -an | grep 2049 just shows listening ports and some without a label of listening or established etc. |
| 15:50.17 | Lope | nfsstat -s on the server gives me info, but none client specific. |
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| 15:50.26 | Lope | I want to be able to see if any clients are abusing the NFS. |
| 15:50.57 | Lope | so I want to see how many MB's each client has written/read |
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| 15:51.39 | ChrisH | Lope: there is no such metric that I am aware of. |
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| 15:55.21 | Lope | ChrisH so NFS has no way to prevent client abuse? |
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| 15:58.30 | ChrisH | Lope: no. Thats not what NFS was designed for |
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| 15:59.51 | wrksx | is there an easy way to get this out of date ? |
| 15:59.52 | wrksx | 2014-11-26_16-04-43 |
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| 16:00.44 | Lope | ChrisH what I want to use NFS for is thin clients accessing a SSD over NFS. but if one of the clients starts hammering the SSD constantly firstly it will degrade everyone else's experience, and secondly it'll wear out the SSD. |
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| 16:01.56 | petn-randall | wrksx: What is out of date? |
| 16:01.59 | Lope | ChrisH thanks for clearing that up. The reason I was deceived into thinking that nfsiostat was a server command is because when I ran it on the server I actually got a result. But it might be because it's an OpenVZ server and nfsiostat got confused and just gave me the result from one of the random containers/. |
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| 16:02.20 | Ni[N]Ja | .add |
| 16:02.39 | Ni[N]Ja | .add |
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| 16:03.16 | wrksx | petn-randall: sorry my sentence was broken =) 2014-11-26_16-04-43 out of the date |
| 16:03.49 | Lope | ChrisH: thanks for the help |
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| 16:06.51 | petn-randall | wrksx: Sure, check the format section of the man page. |
| 16:07.40 | wrksx | petn-randall: thank you veeeeery much |
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| 16:08.23 | wrksx | petn-randall: gonna do it |
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| 16:09.23 | jhutchins | wrksx: Usually requires repeated experiments to get it right, but yeah, you can do that. |
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| 16:12.54 | wrksx | jhutchins: i thought that was a commonb format |
| 16:13.19 | wrksx | jhutchins: is there an easy format to have a string representing the date usable in a filename ? |
| 16:15.33 | Lope | Debian 7 wheezy (updated) "nfsstat -h" tells me "nfsstat: invalid option -- 'h'". I'm running 1.2.6. Is it old or something? |
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| 16:16.20 | metalight | Every now and then my keyboard configuration resets to "us" in /etc/default/keyboard - I've traced it to happening everytime keyboard-configuration updates - how do i prevent it from resetting my layout to "us"? (I'm running Debian sid) |
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| 16:18.58 | metalight | I can't remove "keyboard-configuration" since it is depended upon by many X components. |
| 16:19.22 | Guest94202 | hey guys |
| 16:19.34 | fUNKIAM` | hi guys! |
| 16:19.40 | fUNKIAM` | good evening! |
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| 16:20.10 | Guest94202 | are any security-specialist regarding malicious programs on debian repositories in here |
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| 16:20.29 | Guest94202 | where i can report malicious code |
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| 16:23.09 | jelly | Guest94202: on an official debian mirror? look up contact information at https://www.debian.org/security/ |
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| 16:23.36 | Lope | Debian 7 wheezy (updated) "nfsstat -h" tells me "nfsstat: invalid option -- 'h'". I'm running 1.2.6. Is it old or something? |
| 16:23.43 | Lope | oops |
| 16:23.45 | Lope | where would I specify this option for NFSD? nfs.per_client_stats.enable |
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| 16:25.19 | yossarianuk | HollyCowOS: you are wrong |
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| 16:27.22 | jelly | Lope: where did you find that option? |
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| 16:33.06 | ChrisH | Lope: what should nfstat -h do? man nfsstat does not tell anything about -h |
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| 16:34.16 | kruug | Trying to install Debian, booted to the Live image from USB. Had to boot into fail safe mode. Now, how do I kick off the install process? |
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| 16:41.08 | Guest94202 | does anyone know 'lynx'? |
| 16:41.26 | petn-randall | !anyone |
| 16:41.26 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
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| 16:42.03 | Guest94202 | i just want to tell that it exec malicious code |
| 16:42.06 | babilen | Guest94202: Lots of people know that, yeajh |
| 16:42.42 | Lope | ChrisH my debian nfsstat also says nothing but this (newer?) version has a -h option https://library.netapp.com/ecmdocs/ECMP1511538/html/man1/na_nfsstat.1.html |
| 16:43.19 | petn-randall | Guest94202: How specifically? |
| 16:43.29 | bynarie | dont be a dick |
| 16:43.34 | bynarie | hes trying to help |
| 16:43.37 | ChrisH | Lope: that's netapp's nfsstat on their appliance |
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| 16:44.06 | Lope | oh, I just thought it's linux stuff? isn't this open source sharing stuff? |
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| 16:45.10 | Guest94202 | petn-randall: it kinda creates an nginx server, where it calls to different addresses and downloads more malicious code |
| 16:45.12 | ChrisH | Lope: you cannot put command's options from one Unix to another unix'ish OS. check man pages. The current netapps I know run Solaris |
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| 16:45.55 | Lope | ChrisH okay, thanks. |
| 16:46.14 | bynarie | Guest94202, are you talking about lynx, the text-based web browser? |
| 16:46.16 | ChrisH | Lope: but Solaris nfsstat does not know about -h. Most option are identical over all systems I know. |
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| 16:46.25 | Guest94202 | bynarie: yes |
| 16:46.30 | bynarie | oh ok |
| 16:46.35 | bynarie | thanks for the info |
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| 16:48.10 | valerie__ | Hi, I would like to download youtube videos. I have Debian 7.7. Before I used youtube-dl, but it doesn't show up with aptitude search youtube-dl. Is it not available anymore? What can I use to download videos? |
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| 16:50.00 | Zharf | valerie__, youtube-dl is available on github iirc |
| 16:50.06 | jelly | valerie__: if you want to keep using youtube-dl, you'll have to build the new version by yourself. The procedure is called "backporting" and the resulting packages are "backports" |
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| 16:50.16 | jelly | !tell valerie__ about simple sid backport |
| 16:50.47 | babilen | valerie__: You might be interested in cclive and get-flash-videos |
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| 16:50.54 | jelly | cclive is also old. |
| 16:50.58 | Zharf | not much building involved since it's just a python script |
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| 16:54.14 | jelly | still it's nice to have an uninstallable and potentially upgradeable .deb |
| 16:54.35 | jelly | but yeah, if it's a single script file, not much use |
| 16:54.57 | Zharf | I just copy it to my ~/bin :) |
| 16:55.52 | Zharf | but then I manage a bunch of other source only applications because I develop them so it's like second nature |
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| 16:57.38 | bp0 | Hello. Regarding a package in debian, fdk-aac: it currently includes version 0.1.3 of the library package, which includes an so with version 0.4.0 as libfdk-aac0, but in the unreleased 0.1.4, the so version was changed to 1.0.0. How will that be packaged? |
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| 16:58.06 | bp0 | will it just include a libfdk-aac1 or will the package be changed to fdk-aac1 |
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| 17:00.23 | jelly | bp0: the source package name will likely stay the same. One of the resulting built binary .deb packages that contains the library will probably change tolibfdk-aac1, but there's no reason to change other .deb names |
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| 17:00.46 | jelly | ,v libfdk-aac0 |
| 17:00.47 | judd | Package: libfdk-aac0 on i386 -- wheezy-multimedia: 0.1.1-dmo1; sid/non-free: 0.1.3+20140816-2; jessie/non-free: 0.1.3+20140816-2; sid-multimedia: 1:0.1.3+20141027-dmo2; jessie-multimedia: 1:0.1.3+20141027-dmo2 |
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| 17:02.20 | bp0 | will both libfdk-aac0 and libfdk-aac1 remain in the repo then? Installing fdk-aac will just always install the most recent? |
| 17:02.56 | jelly | bp0: this is a workaround so that users can have libfdk-aac0 installable side by side with libfdk-aac1, yes. I don't see a "fdk-aac" binary package though. |
| 17:03.36 | jelly | there seems to be an "aac-enc" built from the same source tho |
| 17:04.02 | bp0 | oh, I see this is not a binary package: https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/fdk-aac |
| 17:04.14 | jelly | that's the source package name |
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| 17:04.20 | bp0 | ok |
| 17:05.05 | jelly | bp0: down to the left you see which binary (*.deb) packages are createde from that source |
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| 17:06.14 | jelly | so basically in a couple months sid will have aac-enc deb depending on libfdk-aac1 deb |
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| 17:06.24 | bp0 | ok, so I might expect to see that list expand to include libfdk-aac1 |
| 17:07.11 | bp0 | ok, but something like fdkaac or libav or ffmpeg will still depend on libfdk-aac0 if they are not updated |
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| 17:07.52 | acidfu | hello ! |
| 17:07.53 | jelly | indeed. libfdk-aac0 and libfdk-aac1 packages will be coinstallable so that stuff built against old library keeps working, even in you install a fresh new aac-enc |
| 17:08.01 | acidfu | in which package does lvremove is ? thank you! |
| 17:08.21 | jelly | acidfu: lvm2 |
| 17:08.25 | acidfu | ok |
| 17:08.26 | acidfu | thx |
| 17:08.33 | bp0 | jelly, alright. thank you for explaining |
| 17:08.42 | phre4k | when I mount with mount -t cifs //filesrv1/ablage/ /mnt/ablage -o multiuser,user=USER,password=PASS I can't access the share with other users. Why? |
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| 17:09.24 | jelly | phre4k: permissions? |
| 17:09.53 | jelly | phre4k: what does ls -ld /mnt/ablage say? |
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| 17:11.56 | phre4k | jelly: accessing "/mnt/ablage" not possible: insufficient rights |
| 17:12.06 | phre4k | (translated from German) |
| 17:12.26 | phre4k | if I do ls -l in /mnt/ I get: |
| 17:12.28 | phre4k | d????????? ? ? ? ? ? ablage |
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| 17:13.14 | jelly | phre4k: and if you do it as root? (use "LC_ALL=C ls -ld /mnt/ablage" to get English output). The explanation of multiuser in man mount.cifs looks like there are lots of gotchas, esp. if the remote does not have samba unix extensions |
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| 17:13.42 | phre4k | jelly: aaah, ty for the LC_ALL trick, forgot that |
| 17:13.57 | phre4k | jelly: I definitely have to do my LCSE exam :D |
| 17:14.23 | phre4k | jelly: as root: drwxrwxr-x 22 root users 0 Nov 24 16:08 ablage/ |
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| 17:15.26 | jelly | seems weird. I don't have any actual experience with "multiuser" option to comment further. |
| 17:16.30 | ChrisH | phre4k: check uid= option o consider using NFS if possible. CIFS is more a single user usage mount (not fully true but...) |
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| 17:17.36 | phre4k | jelly: well multiuser mounts it again for each user with krb5 auth, but even though I have a ticket it seems that it doesn't work |
| 17:17.54 | phre4k | ChrisH: can I do krb5 auth with nfs? |
| 17:18.20 | jelly | they say nfs4 can do that. |
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| 17:18.31 | phre4k | ChrisH: I don't want to set up GSS daemon etc... |
| 17:18.52 | ChrisH | phre4k: auth and NFS :) maybe... sounds like secure NFS I heard once. Never seen such stuff in real life |
| 17:19.26 | hazrpg | public $user = 'jswhorseboxes_jT'; |
| 17:19.26 | hazrpg | public $password = '3uVSTYXOamYzoasjrckA'; |
| 17:19.33 | phre4k | ChrisH: oh jesus, I have to set up Kerberos tasks. I'd much rather use smb since it's already set up. I know this can work and maybe it's just a minor issue |
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| 17:19.39 | hazrpg | bah |
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| 17:20.06 | phre4k | ChrisH: and that "Never seen such stuff in real life" applies to me too :D |
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| 17:20.20 | jelly | hazrpg: public indeed |
| 17:20.35 | phre4k | until now I always had pam mounts but that opens a looot of connections when users don't log out |
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| 17:21.59 | phre4k | lol: http://www.snia.org/sites/default/files2/SDC2012/presentations/Revisions/JeffLayton_Multiuser%20Mounts%20with%20Linux%20CIFS_revision.pdf |
| 17:22.04 | hazrpg | jelly: not worried, those are localhost variables anyway |
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| 17:22.36 | phre4k | I love it to read a long marketing presentation turned PDF when I just want the damn tool to work like it's advertised. |
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| 17:23.49 | hazrpg | what I meant to say was: |
| 17:23.54 | hazrpg | anyone setup a localhost mailbox before? I'm having a bit of trouble trying to get a mail client to read them (although maybe I configured it wrong?) could someone help? |
| 17:24.28 | phre4k | hazrpg: you can read local mail with mutt etc, else you may have to install a POP/IMAP daemon like Dovecot |
| 17:24.46 | phre4k | hazrpg: which client do you want to use? Search for $client+local |
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| 17:25.15 | jelly | hazrpg: hm, if you have a normal unix user, installing dovecot-imap pretty much does it (and gives you access to /var/mail/username as INBOX) |
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| 17:27.36 | phre4k | can oracle please go bankrupt and take their (My)SQL, Java and everything with them? |
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| 17:46.57 | eb0t | hey when i put a disk in my cdrom it isnt picking up....now i can restart the machine and i think it will pick it up |
| 17:47.07 | eb0t | but is there a way to get this thing sorted without a reboot |
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| 17:47.18 | eb0t | i have tried 6 disks |
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| 17:47.53 | greycat | What do you mean by "picking up"? Is it a data CD or an audio CD? Are you trying to mount it? If so, what error are you getting? |
| 17:48.09 | eb0t | normally greycat its automatically mounted |
| 17:48.23 | greycat | I would not consider that normal. |
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| 17:48.32 | eb0t | i normally put the cd in and it shows up in my file manager |
| 17:48.50 | greycat | Is that a GNOME/KDE thing? If so, I turn the question over to someone who knows that stuff. |
| 17:48.59 | eb0t | yes i use gnome on debian |
| 17:49.45 | eb0t | so im in the right place |
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| 17:55.57 | eb0t | ah well i had to mount them manually |
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| 17:56.10 | eb0t | just used to do it automatically...which in debian i prefer |
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| 17:58.58 | petn-randall | Guest94202: What is the attack vector? I'm pretty sure that doesn't happen out of the box. |
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| 18:00.46 | gamel | ciao a tutti |
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| 18:00.55 | gamel | !list |
| 18:00.56 | dpkg | gamel: Debian è un sistema operativo composto da software libero (un concetto distinto da quello di gratis): vedi http://www.debian.org/intro/free.it.html per saperne di più. |
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| 18:02.08 | okee | Does anyone know if this is in the repos? https://github.com/nojhan/liquidprompt/tree/master/dist/debian I can't find it |
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| 18:05.42 | dotut | okee: doesn't look like it |
| 18:06.02 | wraith64 | is anyone using Debian 7.7 with LXDE? |
| 18:06.15 | dotut | okee: u can just download the deb from the link you pasted and install it using dpkg -i |
| 18:06.25 | okee | Hmmm. It should be. Also, I can't find "FLOW", a Javascript debugger http://www.pcworld.com/article/2849532/facebooks-flow-could-help-javascript-programmers-spot-elusive-bugs.html That too should be in there. |
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| 18:09.02 | okee | dotut> Do you think this is the correct package https://github.com/nojhan/liquidprompt/blob/master/dist/debian/liquidprompt.deb |
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| 18:10.39 | dotut | okee: yes, doing a dpkg --contents liquidprompt.deb shows that it contains the configuration files and liquidprompt binary |
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| 18:25.01 | jhutchins | okee: When you get off into something that has it's own repositories and package mangement, like perl or ruby or java, you sometimes just need to accept that you'll use those instead of Debian's tools. |
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| 18:25.48 | okee | jhutchins> Ok, thanks. |
| 18:25.58 | valdyn | i think theres debhelpers for that |
| 18:26.04 | valdyn | okee: ^^ |
| 18:26.14 | valdyn | dh_make_perl and such |
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| 18:52.53 | _unknow_ | How can I install intel graphic drivers on kali linux? |
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| 18:53.07 | wind0 | C Holiday |
| 18:53.09 | towo` | here is debian, not kali |
| 18:53.10 | wind0 | whops |
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| 18:55.46 | _unknow_ | towo`, isn't kali based on debian? |
| 18:55.54 | towo` | and? |
| 18:55.54 | Aayush | ehm what could be the possible reason for -bash: start: command not found ? |
| 18:56.07 | towo` | based on debian != debian |
| 18:57.26 | _unknow_ | towo`, lol |
| 18:57.38 | _unknow_ | towo`, bad day? |
| 18:57.38 | greycat | 'start' is not a normal Debian command |
| 18:57.55 | wols | Aayush: where is this "start" binary? |
| 18:58.02 | phy1729 | !tell _unknow_ about based on debian |
| 18:58.22 | Aayush | ah I fixed it :D |
| 18:58.25 | Aayush | thanks guys! :D |
| 18:58.27 | wols | good |
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| 19:18.00 | okee | valdyn^> I need to get rid of flow, and reinstall it, in a different location. It was installed with dpkg, after unzipping, but the program can't find its configuration files. What's a good way to setup, and cleanup the mess that I made? |
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| 19:43.16 | ThreadKiLL | Hello, how to identify or how to check inbound packets, for me to check if my server is attacked / DDOSED |
| 19:43.21 | ThreadKiLL | debian |
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| 19:45.03 | eurobit | rule of thumb : if you don't know how to check then you aren't being ddoses |
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| 19:45.15 | okee | I think I installed Flow to the wrong area, and wondering if you have advice on how to get rid of it? It was installed with dpkg -i, but it can't find the configuration files. |
| 19:45.29 | okee | flow is in a folder on my desktop. |
| 19:45.36 | greycat | Well, you would purge it with dpkg --purge. But that doesn't answer why it can't find its files. |
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| 19:46.05 | ThreadKiLL | <eurobit> rule of thumb : if you don't know how to check then you aren't being ddoses <-- nice rule, lol |
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| 19:47.27 | ThreadKiLL | anyone here only today? |
| 19:47.45 | itt788 | I'm trying to install debian wheezy on a ppc. |
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| 19:48.43 | concept | was there a recent update that would have affected my pgp keys? I am receiving the fingerprint cant be established/ECDSA key fingerprint message for three different ssh servers (two of them are mine) |
| 19:49.03 | itt788 | The installer configured the network and assigned an ip to the system, and I can ping computers on the local area but I'm not having internet connection |
| 19:49.25 | concept | I know the issues of MITM, but it's just strange that three different servers at once are telling me this |
| 19:49.27 | itt788 | while I can ping the internet hotspot ip |
| 19:49.53 | greycat | itt788: sounds like the router isn't actually routing for you |
| 19:50.17 | greycat | Are other machines on the LAN able to talk to the Internet? |
| 19:50.33 | itt788 | in fact the ppc is connected to an ip masquerading computer for internet |
| 19:50.51 | concept | i am running debian wheezy |
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| 19:50.54 | itt788 | I know the ip masquerading is working well |
| 19:50.56 | greycat | Is it the ONLY machine connected in this way? |
| 19:51.10 | itt788 | yes |
| 19:51.30 | greycat | Then the "ip masq" machine is not forwarding the packets properly. You probably forgot to echo 1 > /sys/whatever |
| 19:51.42 | itt788 | there's already a linux on this ppc that is running well and access the internet |
| 19:52.16 | greycat | Is your default gateway set to the correct IP? |
| 19:52.23 | itt788 | so the ip masquerating is fine |
| 19:52.33 | itt788 | I don't know |
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| 19:52.50 | itt788 | it's the installer that set the network now |
| 19:53.19 | itt788 | I don't know which tools in the installer I should use to diagnose |
| 19:53.31 | itt788 | ifconfig is not installed |
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| 19:54.23 | greycat | look for the "ip" command, and possibly "netstat -rn" to display the routing table |
| 19:54.33 | greycat | also possibly "route -n" to display the routing table |
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| 20:05.21 | concept | was there a recent update that would have affected my pgp keys? I am receiving the fingerprint cant be established/ECDSA key fingerprint message for three different ssh servers (two of them are mine) |
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| 20:07.05 | valdyn | concept: no there was not |
| 20:07.18 | valdyn | concept: what changed on your ssh client side? |
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| 20:08.21 | okee | greycat> I receive an error message "ignoring request to remove flow which isn't installed" |
| 20:08.41 | greycat | Then it was not actually installed with dpkg -i |
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| 20:09.30 | greycat | Or that isn't the package's full name. |
| 20:09.31 | concept | valydn: nothing that i know of. my known_hosts are all ssh-rsa and when i accepted one just to test, it saved it as ECDSA instead.. but I havent done anything |
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| 20:10.17 | okee | greycat> flow is the packages full name, but the zip file is different. I have unzipped it to a folder on the desktop. |
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| 20:10.36 | greycat | But earlier, you said you installed it with dpkg -i. But apparently you didn't. |
| 20:10.52 | valdyn | concept: your client lost its known_hosts or your server(s) changed their ip or you are now connecting via ipv6 |
| 20:11.17 | okee | greycat> My recollection was that it was unzipped and installed, but I don't recall what I did with it. |
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| 20:11.41 | valdyn | concept: you might want to show the complete message though, yours is irritating, wrong, shortened |
| 20:11.43 | greycat | If it was "installed" by unzipping in a random place, then I don't think #debian can help you much. |
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| 20:12.28 | okee | greycat> Not sure what you mean by random place. I show the install on the Desktop. |
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| 20:12.48 | greycat | $HOME/Desktop counts as random |
| 20:13.05 | okee | greycat> There is a folder on the desktop called flow. In that folder is another folder that has examples, and the program. |
| 20:13.09 | greycat | It's not a place that most software would expect to be locatd. |
| 20:13.21 | okee | greycat> I was not aware this would be installed to the desktop after unpacking it. |
| 20:13.47 | greycat | You need to find documentation or a support channel for this "flow" package. |
| 20:13.54 | valdyn | okee: we dont know what you *really* did, if you call it unzipping when it is not really, then we cant help you |
| 20:13.58 | concept | valdyn: The authenticity of host 'anapnea.net (46.105.125.31)' can't be established. |
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| 20:14.05 | concept | ECDSA key fingerprint is 94:72:55:9f:a3:b4:59:f1:c1:b0:ab:17:b9:35:29:cc. |
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| 20:14.41 | okee | valdyn> The program was unzipped to a folder on the desktop. it is as simple as that. If you type flow, an error comes back that it can't find the configuration files. |
| 20:14.43 | valdyn | concept: alright, that just means unknown host, like new ip |
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| 20:15.09 | greycat | okee: Just a TOTALLY WILD-ASS GUESS, but... does it work if you cd into the directory where flow is, first? |
| 20:15.31 | okee | greycat> No, same error comes up: can't find configuration files. |
| 20:15.40 | valdyn | okee: if you unzip something like that and type "flow", then you get the message "flow: command not found" |
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| 20:15.51 | concept | valdyn, but three different servers? the two i own are two diff companies..linode and digitalocean.. i emailed linode and they had no knowledge of why i may have received it |
| 20:15.52 | greycat | Then you need to find the documentation. Maybe it needs an environment variable or something, to tell it where to look. |
| 20:16.00 | okee | valdyn> NO, I do not get the error message "command not found". |
| 20:16.19 | valdyn | concept: so maybe its more likely that you are not using the same old known_hosts file |
| 20:16.42 | valdyn | concept: we cant know why you known_hosts file is gone or why you are using a different one now |
| 20:16.47 | okee | valdyn> This is the error message: Could not find a .flowconfig in . or any of its parent directories |
| 20:16.47 | okee | see "flow init --help" for more info |
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| 20:17.07 | valdyn | okee: type "which flow" |
| 20:17.23 | okee | valdyn> Could not find a .flowconfig in . or any of its parent directories |
| 20:17.25 | okee | see "flow init --help" for more info |
| 20:17.45 | okee | valdyn> /home/asd/Desktop/flow//flow |
| 20:17.47 | greycat | Well, now we know the name of the file it' |
| 20:17.50 | greycat | Well, now we know the name of the file it's looking for! |
| 20:17.57 | concept | valdyn: lol damn, thats unfortunate. im guessing if it was a MITM it would have the POTENTIAL EAVESDROPPING message though? like it would of matched this new fingerprint against the old and said that if that was the case? |
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| 20:18.04 | valdyn | okee: why the hell is that path in your $PATH ? |
| 20:18.06 | greycat | Now if only we had a clue what to put IN it... |
| 20:18.32 | okee | valdyn> Not sure. I wasn't expecting it, and would like to move it. |
| 20:18.52 | greycat | *boggle* |
| 20:19.10 | greycat | Did he possibly run some sort of "install script" provided BY flow, which modified his dot files...? |
| 20:19.16 | valdyn | concept: if it was a mitm using the same *name* and the same ip then the error would be different |
| 20:19.21 | okee | greycat> NO |
| 20:19.49 | concept | valdyn, alright thanks man. I appreciate your help |
| 20:19.49 | valdyn | concept: like that :http://pastebin.com/Skt0nzkM |
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| 20:20.09 | okee | greycat> Program is located here http://flowtype.org/docs/getting-started.html#_ |
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| 20:20.27 | valdyn | concept: but you are connecting to a host that is just unknown |
| 20:21.14 | concept | valdyn: yeah that was the one I was speaking of. Alright, well I dont know what I have done, but it is what it is. Thanks a lot man |
| 20:21.32 | valdyn | concept: maybe you are just logging in with a diferent user |
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| 20:22.11 | valdyn | concept: *Something* changed the known_hosts being used anyway if the name and ip did not change |
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| 20:25.35 | brentaarnold | What is the default application in Debian Jessie for the installation/management of printers? |
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| 20:25.51 | valdyn | brentaarnold: theres no default |
| 20:25.52 | brentaarnold | I don't see anything in System>Preferences> |
| 20:26.09 | valdyn | brentaarnold: you can use http://localhost:631/ |
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| 20:26.39 | brentaarnold | valdyn: Wow, nice! |
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| 20:29.40 | greycat | localhost:631 is the web interface for CUPS, which is pretty common these days I guess |
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| 20:34.04 | jhutchins | brentaarnold: Pretty much every distro uses cups these days, but some have a front end for it. |
| 20:34.17 | Rackmount | You know, I don't usually like firewall front-ends, but I have to say, I'm liking Firestarter pretty well overall. Anyone else use this? Just curious. |
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| 20:34.51 | jhutchins | Rackmount: I used to use shorewall for ease in dropping abusive IPs, but I don't need it any more. (ISP improved the firewall.) |
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| 20:37.48 | okee | valdyn> It was added to the path before I realized the folder was on the desktop. So how do i remove it from the path? |
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| 20:38.06 | greycat | Undo whatever you did that put it into PATH in the first place. |
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| 20:38.23 | greycat | You probably edited ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_profile |
| 20:38.39 | okee | greycat> No, I did the following: echo "PATH=\"\$PATH:$(pwd)/\"" >> ~/.bashrc && source ~/.bashrc |
| 20:38.53 | okee | greycat> This was the instructions from http://flowtype.org/docs/getting-started.html#_ |
| 20:38.55 | greycat | That is close enough to "editing .bashrc" for our purposes. |
| 20:39.05 | greycat | Edit it again, this time taking that out. |
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| 20:40.26 | eurobit | you mean cat file > /dev/lp0 ain't the printer default no more? |
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| 20:40.44 | stangeland | when i do: xhost + i get: No protocol specified xhost: unable to open display ":0.0". Why on earth is that coming? |
| 20:40.46 | okee | ok, path to flow is no longer in .bash |
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| 20:41.08 | greycat | Please don't do "xhost +". That opens up your system for the entire LAN (or possibly more) to hack. |
| 20:41.33 | greycat | If it didn't work, that can only be GOOD news. |
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| 20:42.09 | greycat | (And it sounds like it failed because you were not in X at the time you tried it.) |
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| 20:42.42 | chomwitt_ | any good tips for ssd-based system? can i start rigth away installation all good planning is needed at first? |
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| 20:47.00 | valdyn | chomwitt_: makes no difference to platter, its just faster |
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| 21:15.48 | brentaarnold | In your opinions, what is the best Linux alternative to APC PowerChute? |
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| 21:18.37 | mr_foobar_baz | Hi, I am desperately trying to get 3D accelration with my integrated intel haswell HD4600. There are no errors in my xorg log. lsmod output contains i915. And yet when I try to launch glxgears or glxinfo, I get "Unrecognized deviceID 0x416 ...." ( Full output: ttps://gist.github.com/anonymous/c893d3f577e1083fbb51 ) |
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| 21:19.58 | mr_foobar_baz | I just get that error and it exits. I am using wheezy with backports kernel 3.16-0.bpo.3-amd64. If I remember correctly, I got 3D accel to work some time ago but I can't remember if I did anything differently. |
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| 21:20.19 | mr_foobar_baz | Got any ideas what I could try? |
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| 21:22.01 | mr_foobar_baz | In xubuntu 14.0.4 it worked out of the box with the newer xserver-xorg-video-intel version (2.99)... But it worked with 2.21 as well I think.. |
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| 21:25.49 | marioxcc | hello |
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| 21:29.06 | marioxcc | hello, how can I remount a filesystem with "mount" but removing options |
| 21:29.09 | marioxcc | ? |
| 21:29.09 | cchristie | i went to install a package dependent on sqlite, and i was told that my version of sqlite is too old |
| 21:29.29 | cchristie | "error: #error Your SQLite version is too old. It must be at least 3.8.5" |
| 21:29.51 | cchristie | libsqlite3-dev |
| 21:29.52 | cchristie | Version: 3.7.13-1+deb7u1 |
| 21:29.54 | greycat | marioxcc: mount -o remount,foo,bar /filesystem |
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| 21:30.01 | cchristie | two questions: |
| 21:30.12 | cchristie | 1. how would i get the version 3.8.5 |
| 21:30.15 | iamutkarsh | Hello ! I would like to contribute to debian's open source community by coding in java ! Could anyone here please guide me how to get started ? |
| 21:30.17 | marioxcc | greycat: I tried it, but it doesn't removed the option (it's usrquota) |
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| 21:30.50 | cchristie | 2. what are these lib* packages? how does sqlite3 differ from libsqlite3-dev, e.g.? |
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| 21:31.11 | greycat | marioxcc: so you did mount -o remount,noquota /foo ? |
| 21:31.26 | cchristie | can i get install sqlite3 and have the equivalent of a libsqlite3-dev package? |
| 21:31.33 | mtn | cchristie: this site might be of some use: http://packages.debian.org |
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| 21:31.44 | greycat | cchristie: the lib*-dev is used when compiling perl with a database API, etc. |
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| 21:32.40 | mr_foobar_baz | iamutkarsh: https://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-faq/ch-contributing.en.html |
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| 21:32.47 | marioxcc | greycat: no, it worked, thanks. I was trying "nousrquota" |
| 21:33.06 | greycat | marioxcc: I found it by searching for "quota" in "man mount" |
| 21:33.23 | marioxcc | greycat: ok, thanks. I was looking for "remove" instead. |
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| 21:34.23 | iamutkarsh | mr_foobar_baz: Sir so i need to install debian , since i am currently using ubuntu ? |
| 21:34.26 | cchristie | greycat: i guess i wasn't clear, i understand how they are used, but i don't know what they are |
| 21:34.38 | cchristie | are they a limited subset of an app? |
| 21:35.16 | cchristie | i imagine it's a library and it performs all the functions the app can without the gui |
| 21:35.21 | greycat | lib*-dev contains the header files, and usually a libfoo.so symlink, and sometimes a libfoo.a non-shared library, for compiling things |
| 21:35.45 | cchristie | but in the case of the sqlite package, it doesn't have a gui, so what is the difference between sqlite3 and libsqlite3-dev |
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| 21:36.36 | mr_foobar_baz | iamutkarsh: That would probably be useful, though not necessarily required to fix bugs in packages you have in ubuntu too |
| 21:36.36 | greycat | /usr/bin/sqlite3 is just a small command-line wrapper that parses the command line options and stuff, and links with libsqlite3.so.0 to do the real work |
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| 21:37.12 | greycat | You don't need the -dev package to run the command-line sqlite3, but you DO need the non-dev libsqlite3 |
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| 21:37.27 | greycat | You need the -dev package to compile perl, python, tcl, etc. using the database API. |
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| 21:39.00 | iamutkarsh | mr_foobar_baz: Sir i know basic java and it's oops concepts and i have no application developement background. Do i need to learn anything else beforehand before contributing to debian ? |
| 21:40.24 | cchristie | i'm upgrading to testing |
| 21:40.27 | mr_foobar_baz | iamutkarsh: Depends on how you want to contribute. If you want to fix a bug, you have to learn what is necessary in order to fix it. |
| 21:40.37 | cchristie | thank you for pointing me to packages.debian.org mtn |
| 21:40.47 | mtn | cchristie: welcome |
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| 21:42.28 | mr_foobar_baz | iamutkarsh: There are other ways to contribute too though... like finding bugs in jessie and reporting the, |
| 21:42.33 | kale | hi i need some help moving a disk to a new system. it requires me to shrink and move some lvm on luks partitions. can i liveshrink a luks partition? |
| 21:42.36 | mr_foobar_baz | iamutkarsh: *them |
| 21:42.49 | mr_foobar_baz | iamutkarsh: In any case, you can find more information using google. |
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| 21:44.08 | mr_foobar_baz | kale: If it'S lvm on luks then I'D guess you can create a new luks partition and then move the lvm. But you cannot resize luks partitions. |
| 21:44.44 | mr_foobar_baz | kale: And don't forget to change the UUID of the new luks partition to the UUID of the old one. Else you can't boot. |
| 21:45.17 | kale | mr_foobar_baz: i need to shrink my luks partition, and yes you can move a luks partition |
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| 21:45.29 | mr_foobar_baz | kale: move it. but not resize it. |
| 21:45.49 | mr_foobar_baz | kale: to change the uuid you can use cryptsetup luksUUID /dev/sdX --uuid new-uuid-here |
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| 21:45.58 | Tau | hello. |
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| 21:46.35 | Tau | i have some questions. |
| 21:46.49 | mr_foobar_baz | kale: I researched resizing luks some time ago and only found that you have to create a new one and copy your stuff over |
| 21:46.59 | mr_foobar_baz | Tau: shoot. don't ask to ask. |
| 21:47.12 | Tau | is it possible to map all the widgets that have a handle mapped to a mouse event click? |
| 21:47.20 | Tau | like, all widgets that are rendered on the screen. |
| 21:47.32 | Tau | so i want to identify all of these that accept a mouse click. |
| 21:47.34 | Tau | is it possible? |
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| 21:48.09 | mr_foobar_baz | Tau: are you trying to control the UI using a keyboard? |
| 21:48.14 | cchristie | i think most apps were upgraded, but the very end of "apt-get dist-upgrade" failed: https://gist.github.com/c-christie/a307d914e73e86dd43e5 |
| 21:48.16 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:48.24 | kale | mr_foobar_baz: http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/41091/how-can-i-shrink-a-luks-partition-what-does-cryptsetup-resize-do |
| 21:48.37 | mr_foobar_baz | Tau: already done https://awesome.naquadah.org/wiki/Rodentbane |
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| 21:50.07 | mr_foobar_baz | kale: Interesting. Never found that. Thanks |
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| 21:53.35 | cchristie | i performed "apt-get install -f" |
| 21:53.36 | mr_foobar_baz | iamutkarsh: Idk what you want to do. Afaik the most helpful thing would be to fix some RC bugs for jessie. But you will probably have to learn a lot in order to do so. Which is a good thing too if you want to learn and you like a challenge... |
| 21:53.39 | cchristie | that worked |
| 21:53.44 | cchristie | apt-get --dist-upgrade |
| 21:53.51 | cchristie | and here's the new result: https://gist.github.com/c-christie/4c81305a97fc89d27158 |
| 21:54.00 | mr_foobar_baz | iamutkarsh: And don't fixate on java so much. Programming is essentially the same in all languages |
| 21:54.11 | cchristie | i can't tell if it's dbus, systemd, or man-db |
| 21:55.44 | mtn | cchristie: are you running jessie or upgrading to jessie or.....? |
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| 21:56.08 | cchristie | mtn: wheezy |
| 21:56.12 | cchristie | upgrading to testing |
| 21:56.34 | mtn | cchristie: probably should read this: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting |
| 21:56.36 | cchristie | i'm going to try installing man-db by itself before trying --distr-upgrade |
| 21:56.39 | cchristie | oh |
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| 21:56.59 | mtn | cchristie: testing is usually supported in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
| 21:57.22 | eurobit | tau check out xdotool |
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| 21:58.29 | cchristie | upgrading man-db first seemed to have work |
| 21:58.45 | cchristie | thanks for pointing me to the wiki page and the irc channeon on oftc mtn, i'll have a look |
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| 22:02.05 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:02.56 | shakaponk | hello guys |
| 22:03.50 | shakaponk | trying to update deluge torrent and install libtorrent-rasterbar7 but it says: libtorrent-rasterbar7 : Depends: libboost-system1.46.1 (>= 1.46.1-1) which is a virtual package |
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| 22:04.49 | shakaponk | my aptitude output: i libboost-system-dev - Operating system (e.g. diagnostics support |
| 22:04.49 | shakaponk | i A libboost-system1.49-dev - Operating system (e.g. diagnostics support |
| 22:04.49 | shakaponk | i A libboost-system1.49.0 - Operating system (e.g. diagnostics support |
| 22:05.33 | shakaponk | whats wrong? |
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| 22:13.02 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:13.05 | Tau | thanks buddy. |
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| 22:15.00 | wind0 | anyone use youtube-dl?? just wondering if it has limitations with DRM |
| 22:15.20 | eurobit | damn i just updated youtube-dl ... what are the chances |
| 22:15.44 | eurobit | Tau: yea coupled with wmctrl you got full control - i only use the mouse when i have no choice |
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| 22:18.04 | wind0 | eurobit, just trying it for the first time, handy. |
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| 22:18.55 | kale | how do i move a partition? |
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| 22:19.39 | eurobit | kale be cautious in messing with partitions - backup then come back ;) |
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| 22:19.54 | kale | eurobit: done, im back |
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| 22:20.53 | eurobit | you using gpartd or fdisk? |
| 22:21.12 | eurobit | you using gparted or fdisk? |
| 22:21.20 | kale | eurobit: that was really my question. i started "parted" nad ran help, but i see no move command |
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| 22:21.52 | eurobit | what exactly do you want to do ... pastebin the fdisk -l output |
| 22:22.20 | kale | eurobit i want to move a parition 32GB, so i can squeeze in another partition |
| 22:22.42 | Tau | eurobit i have been using i3 + vimperator + vy. |
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| 22:23.10 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:23.49 | kale | eurobit, so i cannot "live" move a partition? |
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| 22:24.10 | eurobit | kale be carefull |
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| 22:24.25 | owen1 | why ssh -i ~/.ssh/backup.pem ubuntu@<ip> works while scp random-file -i ~/.ssh/backup.pem ubuntu@<ip>: doesn't |
| 22:24.26 | kale | eurobit: no reason to, we are just playing around here. |
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| 22:24.44 | eurobit | you will need to umount the partition - what is on the partition |
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| 22:24.49 | owen1 | (i get permission denied) |
| 22:24.52 | eurobit | copy all the data off |
| 22:25.24 | kale | eurobit: its ext4 on lvm on luks, i resized luks and volume group and partition already, now i just need to move the partition |
| 22:25.40 | kale | eurobit: why would i copy the data? |
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| 22:25.45 | eurobit | https://encrypted.google.com/search?hl=en&q=live+resizing+debian+partition |
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| 22:26.39 | kale | eurobit: moving a partition, not resizing |
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| 22:31.13 | dizzylizzy | is it possible to set up mail on a server to operate as a proper incoming/outgoing mail server with the internet at large, but utilizing the local unix mail spools? |
| 22:31.36 | dizzylizzy | i've never set up a proper email server before, relying instead on a friend's mail servers with my domain |
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| 22:34.19 | eurobit | won't your friend help you? |
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| 22:35.24 | dizzylizzy | ...probably |
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| 22:38.35 | kale | dizzylizzy: if you go for postfix its not that complicated to set up, you can even set it up before the mx records points at it |
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| 22:50.29 | jhutchins | dizzylizzy: Usually you don't worry about the mail spools, you just set up the server. |
| 22:51.08 | jhutchins | dizzylizzy: Be aware that if you're in a residential IP block about 30% of servers will block you, as will 30% if you don't have reverse DNS. |
| 22:51.26 | jhutchins | !mailserver |
| 22:51.42 | jhutchins | dpkg: ? |
| 22:51.42 | dpkg | jhutchins: I don't know, could you explain it? |
| 22:51.54 | jhutchins | dpkg: mta? |
| 22:51.54 | dpkg | A Message/Mail Transfer Agent (MTA) is a program that transfers e-mail in or out of a system, most often using SMTP. An MTA is usually accessed by calling /usr/sbin/sendmail and thus usually includes that binary. Therefore, in Debian, all MTAs (<exim4>, <postfix>, <qmail>, <ssmtp>, <nullmailer>, etc) mutually conflict. Ask me about <which mta>, <mta comparison> and <why an mta>. http://wooledge.org/~greg/mail.html |
| 22:52.35 | jhutchins | dizzylizzy: Highly recommended that you do some reading before you start, it's not a point-and-click project. |
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| 23:00.49 | wind0 | if i run an ftp server w/ no ports forwarded from my router, will it essentially server local computers only? |
| 23:01.38 | notfaye | yes |
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| 23:03.36 | wind0 | thanks |
| 23:03.49 | notfaye | youre welcome |
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| 23:14.22 | dizzylizzy | kale: jhutchins: thanks!! I'll be doing this from a VPS, not my home system, so there's that. Thank you for the advice and links |
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| 23:19.12 | Gforce | Hey there.I've chrooted to a ubuntu istalled on my hard disk using : chroot $path as root |
| 23:19.25 | Gforce | now I want to run a app but not as root. |
| 23:19.31 | Gforce | what should I do? |
| 23:19.51 | eurobit | ask in #ubunut? |
| 23:20.02 | Brigo | Gforce, did you create a chroot environment? |
| 23:20.29 | Gforce | Brigo: Like what?I've just mounted and chrooted |
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| 23:21.28 | Brigo | Gforce, su <username> . 'man su' for more |
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| 23:22.02 | Gforce | Brigo: I get a whole lot of this: bash: /dev/null: Permission denied |
| 23:22.31 | Brigo | what user is that? |
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| 23:22.51 | kale | if i want to install debian on a new disk, how would i best go about getting the smae packages/configurations etc. |
| 23:23.01 | jhutchins | dizzylizzy: THe main thing is to relay mail for you and your systems and for nobody else (no spammers). |
| 23:23.18 | Brigo | kale, dpkg --set-selections > file.txt |
| 23:23.25 | Gforce | Brigo: I'm root now(whoami).And I want to change it to a standard user(exists) |
| 23:23.43 | kale | Gforce: su - user |
| 23:23.44 | jhutchins | dizzylizzy: You might check to see if your provider has any tips on the project - many of them have very nice guides. |
| 23:23.49 | Brigo | Gforce, what user is that, a standar user with home directory? |
| 23:24.01 | Gforce | Brigo:yes |
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| 23:24.24 | Gforce | kale:su: must be run from a terminal |
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| 23:24.49 | kale | Gforce: yes, like whoami |
| 23:25.06 | Gforce | kale:No!it was the error. |
| 23:25.30 | Gforce | Isnn't it wired? |
| 23:25.38 | Brigo | Gforce, are you in rescue mode in an real system? |
| 23:25.47 | kale | Gforce: i honest do not understand what you are saying |
| 23:26.11 | Gforce | Brigo:I don't think so!I'm doing as usual. |
| 23:26.42 | Gforce | kale:When I type su -user I get this error: "su: must be run from a terminal" |
| 23:27.00 | kale | Gforce: where do you type "su"? |
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| 23:28.25 | Gforce | Heres what I've done from the begining: 1:mounted the partition using nautilus. 2:#:chroot $path |
| 23:28.40 | Brigo | !tell kale about aptitude clone |
| 23:28.43 | Gforce | Now I'm typing the commands in the same terminal |
| 23:28.54 | Brigo | kale that is the best way. |
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| 23:29.26 | Brigo | Gforce, what partitions is that? is it clean? |
| 23:29.30 | kale | Brigo: yes i know about --get-selections and --set-selections, but its more about /etc and othe rminor changes i have forgotten about |
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| 23:30.01 | notfaye | kale just tarball all your configurations |
| 23:30.06 | Gforce | Brigo:What do you mean by clean?It's ubuntus partition.(ubuntu works fine.) |
| 23:30.12 | Brigo | kale, did you modify anything under /etc ? if not you are right with aptitude method. |
| 23:30.20 | kale | notfaye: and then overwrite /etc afterwards? |
| 23:30.33 | notfaye | yes just move your files back |
| 23:30.35 | kale | Brigo, i |
| 23:30.41 | Brigo | Gforce, if ubuntu works fine why are yo chrooting into? |
| 23:30.44 | kale | Brigo: yes, there are changes |
| 23:31.03 | kale | notfaye: ok, i'll try that, thanks |
| 23:31.14 | Gforce | Brigo: Doesn't matter!I don't want to reboot to it. |
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| 23:31.41 | Brigo | Gforce, i cant help you to solve a problem if i do not know the problem. |
| 23:31.43 | notfaye | youre welcome |
| 23:32.19 | Gforce | Brigo:I want to run a app that debian stabe can't. |
| 23:32.52 | kale | Gforce: what is your task? |
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| 23:33.03 | Gforce | kale:Task? |
| 23:33.17 | kale | Gforce: what application is it? |
| 23:33.27 | Gforce | kale:Telegram. |
| 23:34.01 | kale | Gforce: so how do you have it? as tar.gz source or .. ? |
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| 23:34.27 | Gforce | kale:binary . |
| 23:34.47 | kale | Gforce: put it under /opt/bin and run it |
| 23:34.56 | Gforce | it needs a newer ver of libc6/ |
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| 23:35.14 | Gforce | you mean copy that to ubuntus opt? |
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| 23:35.46 | kale | Gforce: do you have the sourcecode for it? |
| 23:36.04 | Gforce | kale:It's open source. |
| 23:36.12 | eurobit | isn't there a law or penalty for helping ubunuts on #debian's bandwidth? ;) |
| 23:36.26 | kale | Gforce: question remains, do you have the source? |
| 23:36.36 | Gforce | kale: Yes. |
| 23:36.54 | kale | eurobit: well he want to compile a program on debian /in a while i guess) |
| 23:36.59 | Gforce | eurobit:I'm trying to chroot from debian to that partition. |
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| 23:37.07 | kale | Gforce: ok get build essentials |
| 23:37.24 | Gforce | kale:Tolled you.Not possible. |
| 23:37.41 | kale | Gforce: why is it not possible to install build essentials on debian? |
| 23:37.42 | Gforce | I guess it eeds lobc6 ver 2.15 |
| 23:37.45 | notfaye | chroot <mount point> /bin/bash |
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| 23:38.58 | Gforce | notfaye:still the same. |
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| 23:39.32 | Gforce | kale:Here's the source https://github.com/telegramdesktop/tdesktop |
| 23:39.42 | notfaye | same what |
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| 23:40.20 | Gforce | notfaye:same errors |
| 23:40.34 | notfaye | can i pm you |
| 23:40.40 | Gforce | Sure |
| 23:41.13 | phix | ok exim4 is broken :/ |
| 23:41.17 | kale | Gforce: i'm in the middle of hosing my partitions, so i cannot build it for you right now |
| 23:41.46 | eurobit | kale - use a live cd then you can work easier |
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| 23:42.46 | Gforce | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:42.53 | kale | eurobit: why, thats no fun :-) |
| 23:43.31 | eurobit | i'm sure you have it handy nonetheless... :) |
| 23:43.32 | kale | how can i get parted to use all remaining space. i can only do "partresize 2 500G" but i want to do "partresize 2 tilltheend" |
| 23:43.56 | mo1991 | hmm, updating cryptsetup from backports seems to not be a good idea if you intend on rebooting, as the options are different and system won't boot. Thank God for rescue disk :) |
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| 23:44.54 | eurobit | kale - seriously - i have found less problems if you make/do partitions without the resizing etc |
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| 23:45.27 | kale | eurobit: yes, erasing everything and starting over is easier |
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| 23:46.33 | somenamehereo | Hi. I have a new laptop that has secure boot. I want to dualboot debian and windows 8. it seems like i can install either but not dualboot both systems. Can someone point me in the right direction? |
| 23:47.52 | kale | ahh "partresize 2 -0" |
| 23:47.52 | jhutchins | mo1991: There's always old school. Since you're messing with the partition table you have to have a full backup anyway. Just repartition the disk and restore. You can use one of the fdisk tools that will show you the end cylinder. |
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| 23:52.22 | somenamehereo | it looks like secure boot isnt supported by debian. |
| 23:52.58 | mr_snowf1ake | hey guys, i have a really old machine sitting here running ubuntu 10.10. It seems to run smoothly enough (512 mb ram, probably some really old processor), but of course with the lack of support i'm looking to switch distros. on my more powerful machines i end up using gentoo, opensuse or fedora, but i am wondering for this, would debian be a good fit? |
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| 23:55.03 | bazhang | use the netinstall |
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| 23:55.33 | mr_snowf1ake | bazhang: ahh, so the graphical installer might not work well for me? |
| 23:56.11 | mr_snowf1ake | bazhang: does the netinstall also allow for more flexibility in terms of what gets installed? |
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| 23:56.24 | bazhang | yes |
| 23:56.44 | mr_snowf1ake | alright, excellent, thank you |
| 23:56.52 | mr_snowf1ake | debian has a long support cycle yes? |
| 23:57.21 | Bartleby | mr_snowf1ake: Glacial would be an appropriate word. |
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| 23:58.10 | mr_snowf1ake | Bartleby: excellent. that's exactly what i'm looking for |
| 23:58.16 | mr_snowf1ake | thanks :) i guess i'll go do that |
| 23:58.25 | mr_snowf1ake | any quirks i should know about with the netinstall? |
| 23:58.55 | Bartleby | mr_snowf1ake: How old are we talking? |
| 23:59.09 | StolenToast | I want to install java to run a minecraft server but the instructions are outdated. What is the current jre package called? |
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| 23:59.41 | StolenToast | I tried searching teh cache for 'jre6/7/8' but there were too many or no results |