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| 00:00.20 | nkuttler | !tell StolenToast about install java |
| 00:00.46 | nkuttler | ,v openjdk-8-jre |
| 00:00.47 | judd | Package: openjdk-8-jre on i386 -- sid: 8u40~b09-1 |
| 00:01.03 | StolenToast | ah thanks, I thought default-jre might be it, but it's an odd name |
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| 00:01.52 | Brigo | StolenToast, you can try java-package too |
| 00:02.24 | StolenToast | I looked at it, I think it's for creating debian packages from java applets |
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| 00:03.38 | mo1991 | jhutchins - I've fixed the issue just by booting into rescue and downgrading cryptsetup back to default wheezy version. And of course I do have all my data backed up. I do have a question for you though, is there a better way to backup? IE a snapshot of the system? I can always get all of my important data back from /home and /etc backups, but I'd need to reinstall and get it back. Is there a better way? |
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| 00:04.22 | kale | mo1991: dpkg --get-selections |
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| 00:05.03 | mo1991 | kate - I don't understand? |
| 00:05.36 | mo1991 | ah, you mean to install the packages you already have installed |
| 00:05.52 | kale | mo1991: try running that command, and you will see a list of currently installed packages. save that list. then later use the list with --set-selections |
| 00:06.08 | mo1991 | I was just curious if there was a way to back up an entire "system" image, so that I could go back to a "restore point" |
| 00:06.42 | kale | mo1991: if you use lvm you should be able to create a snapshot |
| 00:07.07 | corretico | Hello guys |
| 00:07.11 | corretico | I need assistance |
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| 00:07.24 | mo1991 | with all configs the same - everything the exact same. I don't think I"ve ever learned how to do this with debian, I heard the new version of SUSE can do it, but I am not going to switch from Debian |
| 00:07.38 | corretico | I'm trying install Debian 7 on my Workstation with 24Gb RAM |
| 00:07.50 | corretico | any recommendation? |
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| 00:08.09 | mo1991 | just curious if there is anything like that in the works for Debian - guessing if Suse is introducing , it will find it's way to debian before long |
| 00:08.26 | corretico | I'm using Debian 7 amd64 but OS onlye show 16Gb of 24Gb |
| 00:08.50 | kale | mo1991: do you mean making an entire disk image? or a snapshot in time. or what is it you want? |
| 00:09.01 | eurobit | corretico: are you using 'free' and lshw? |
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| 00:09.25 | somenamehereo | is there any way to dual boot debian with windows 8.1 on a secure boot system? |
| 00:09.49 | eurobit | somenamehereo: why not use a virtual setup? |
| 00:10.19 | corretico | mmmmm I'm using free |
| 00:10.21 | somenamehereo | eurobit: i want do some gaming on debian also. |
| 00:11.09 | mo1991 | kale, basically a snapshot in time - that could be backed up and then recovered if say I wiped the entire system. In Android you can make a backup - if rooted - wipe all and then go back to it - with everything exaclty the same. looking for something similar in debian |
| 00:11.20 | eurobit | somenamehereo: easier to switch between os with virtual? are you worried about it slowing down the computer? |
| 00:11.21 | somenamehereo | secure boot is preventing me from seeing the windows installation. i can only see the entire hdd. so to install debian i would have to write over my windows 8.1 install. |
| 00:11.46 | eurobit | corretico: and what shows in lshw? and in the bios? |
| 00:11.55 | luminous | hello! I'm trying to installing libnfc on debian wheezy. I've found the libnfc package on tracker.debian.org, but I can't figure out to install this package into my system. apt-get doesnt' see it, so it's not directly available in my repos. I tried installing devtools to use a link from the package tracker with dget, but that didn't work. any ideas on next steps? |
| 00:12.04 | somenamehereo | eurobit: sure i could use virtualbox but i want to dualboot so I can game on either system. |
| 00:12.20 | kale | mo1991: i believe lvm can make mirrors, you can then stop mirroring, which then becomes the snapshot, something old is uml, which could do that |
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| 00:12.37 | luminous | mo1991: nothing in debian will be as simple as what you have in android for that |
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| 00:12.57 | luminous | mo1991: zfs can do snapshots too, but you'll have to know what you're doing to set it up |
| 00:13.28 | luminous | somenamehereo: get a second harddrive |
| 00:13.28 | mo1991 | luminous, that's what I thought - although I recently attended a SUSE talk and they seemed to be starting something that had that ability. |
| 00:13.41 | luminous | starting != usable |
| 00:13.41 | kale | mo1991: what are you trying to protect? your data, or your installation? |
| 00:13.52 | mo1991 | kale - both |
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| 00:13.55 | mo1991 | for example |
| 00:14.11 | somenamehereo | luminous: i guess debian still has no solution for secure boot. hopefully it can be fixed soon. |
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| 00:14.18 | luminous | I don't know |
| 00:14.25 | luminous | I don't use those types of systems |
| 00:14.28 | kale | mo1991: why would you want a backup of /etc/resolv.conf? |
| 00:15.09 | luminous | mo1991: you could make your host environment reproducible with a configuration management tool like salt |
| 00:15.12 | mo1991 | if I have a system with / on a 500 gb drive and /home on a 1 tb drive, with an external 500 gb drive and 1 tb drive for backup, I"d like to be able to backup and restore "snapshots - meaning every single file and config" of / and /home |
| 00:15.43 | corretico | BIOS show me 24Gb of RAM |
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| 00:15.45 | luminous | mo1991: a good backup solution for that amount of data would be replicated |
| 00:15.51 | kale | mo1991: anyways, i use unison for my data, so i sync to a server and a disk i keep away from home. for the OS i just do --get-selections and a tarball of /etc |
| 00:15.56 | mo1991 | luminous - that's what I'd heard before, basically you record all of your setup and con figs so it's reproducible correct |
| 00:16.10 | luminous | yes |
| 00:16.22 | luminous | packages, services, users, configs, etc |
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| 00:16.43 | kale | mo1991: unison can do what you describe, and even keep as many versions as you want |
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| 00:17.02 | mo1991 | ok, it seems that suse new version has some sort of "disk image" similar to android backup / restore "rooted" so perhaps not too long before we see something like android |
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| 00:17.22 | corretico | <eurobit>http://pastebin.com/ff98Myzc |
| 00:17.59 | mo1991 | kale - so if I backup a 2 tb system on a 2 tb backup and then wipe the original, I can restore and boot the 2tb backup and boot right up with no changes? |
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| 00:18.13 | mo1991 | it will act as nothing ever happened and I don't need to reinstall? |
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| 00:19.41 | Brigo | mo1991, if you did it right, yes. |
| 00:19.50 | mo1991 | hmm. I'll check it out |
| 00:20.05 | homecable | any one using debian with nvidia ? |
| 00:20.23 | kale | mo1991: well we have not considered the bootloader here, so no. you can always dd the entire disk, but you'll die of old age if you do that once a day |
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| 00:22.41 | cwong2012 | nevermind. date --date="2014-11-26 02:33:52" +%s |
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| 00:24.37 | homecable | any one using wheezy for desktop |
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| 00:26.47 | mo1991 | kale - right, I"m not looking for once a day. Looking for every few months or so - I have a lot of server configs, tweaks on xserver, XFCE, etc. I've re-set everything up many times over the years, but as I'm already old I'd like to minimize these things in the future. If i screw something up I'd love to be able to go back to my snapshot from 6 months ago |
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| 00:27.52 | kale | mo1991: then just dd your entire disk to another disk, after that you can just swap disks |
| 00:28.23 | kale | my 2tb disks spends 11 hours doing though :-) |
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| 00:29.41 | Dewi | mo1991: I recommend package 'ddrescue', which uses a resumable gentle incremental read pattern in the event of a disk problem |
| 00:30.18 | Dewi | (and when everything is fine it's basically same as dd) |
| 00:30.56 | Dewi | oops, package is 'gddrescue' |
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| 00:31.49 | Brigo | mo1991, did you use lvm? |
| 00:32.13 | mo1991 | I'll check these options out. I don't care if backup takes 11 hours. Basically it's easy to back up /home just by copying, its everything else that I've never been able to figure out how to "restore" without just doing a reinstall and re setting everything up with some help from a /etc backup |
| 00:32.46 | kale | mo1991: but really use unison for partil backups against an usb disk, make tarballs of /etc and use --get-selections. i have 180G of data and it take unison less than 1+ secs to run throught it to determine which new files to transfer, you can save a lof of time this way |
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| 00:35.26 | mo1991 | Brigo - no, I did not. couldn't get it to put my drives in the right order for some reason. I want / to be on solid state drive and most of / home on another drive. When I used lvm it kept not putting the ssd drive at the beginning aka / and i couldn't make it work so I just went with seperate drives |
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| 00:37.40 | mo1991 | brigo - I'm sure there's a way to make lvm put the ssd first by setting up blocks manually, but I was using debian installer and it drove me nuts - never figured out how to put ssd at beginning of lvm |
| 00:38.14 | mo1991 | I'll check out the various options |
| 00:38.36 | Brigo | mo1991, It's a shame. Without lvm you can make snapshots then you have to stop the system to backing up. |
| 00:39.08 | tm512 | does debian's default initrd include support for ext2? |
| 00:40.20 | mo1991 | Brigo, I'll try that as I'll probably do a start from scratch from Jessie as I know a lot more than when I did my wheezy install. It was strange - I'd add sdd to lvm then my normal drive, create the lvm, then partition first drive to same size as my ssd, but it never seemed to actually put it on the ssd as I could tell / was installing to slower drive |
| 00:40.44 | mo1991 | something not quite right with wheezy installer is all i could figure out |
| 00:40.55 | mo1991 | lvm made sense, I agree |
| 00:41.06 | mo1991 | and good to know moving forward |
| 00:41.19 | Brigo | mo1991, maybe you can make several vg, one per disk. |
| 00:42.19 | tm512 | I suspect that this kernel isn't booting because it's lacking the ext2 module to mount / |
| 00:42.26 | mo1991 | Brigo vg? |
| 00:43.13 | tm512 | heh, old old fs |
| 00:43.21 | mo1991 | ah volume group |
| 00:43.38 | Brigo | mo1991, yes, volume group. |
| 00:43.44 | mo1991 | Brigo - I did do a vg for each disk and then include them all in the LVM, or I tried |
| 00:43.44 | Brigo | tm512, yes, of course |
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| 00:44.06 | mo1991 | It all seemed to work fine, except / didn't seem to install on the ssd |
| 00:44.38 | mo1991 | that was a while ago - I'll give it another go when Jessie is realeased |
| 00:46.05 | Brigo | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:56.22 | paulfm | howyd all |
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| 00:57.34 | tm512 | Brigo: "of course" to what exactly? |
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| 00:58.43 | Brigo | tm512, debian wheezy initd has ext2 support |
| 00:59.24 | tm512 | it's still failing to boot for me |
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| 01:00.49 | AR45 | what did I say my wireless card was again |
| 01:00.55 | AR45 | someone scroll up and tell me please |
| 01:01.58 | pingfloyd | AR45: I'll get on that right away :P |
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| 01:02.14 | tm512 | Brigo: gives the typical VFS: failed to mount root fs kernel panic |
| 01:02.46 | AR45 | pingfloyd: thnx man |
| 01:03.03 | pingfloyd | I was being facetious |
| 01:03.34 | pingfloyd | AR45: anyway, try lspci |
| 01:03.55 | AR45 | ... |
| 01:04.08 | pingfloyd | That should show the wireless chipset |
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| 01:04.33 | pingfloyd | You can -v a couple times to increase verbosity if you need |
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| 01:05.46 | pingfloyd | AR45: if your wireless isn't working, first thing to ask, is if you've installed the needed firmware |
| 01:06.14 | pingfloyd | Most of the time that's the issue |
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| 01:06.30 | AR45 | thanks but no thanks |
| 01:06.38 | AR45 | there's a reason why I asked |
| 01:06.41 | martin_debian | holaa todos |
| 01:06.54 | martin_debian | alguien que hable español? |
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| 01:23.07 | srged | I forgot the pass to become root. I mean I now the pass for "sudo" but not the root pass |
| 01:24.10 | pingfloyd | srged: is root login even enabled and assigned a password? That's the first thing to check |
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| 01:24.40 | srged | pingfloyd: I rememer I was able to do the "su" command in the past on this system |
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| 01:25.19 | pingfloyd | Then sounds like that is covered. In that case try sudo passwd |
| 01:25.42 | pingfloyd | And give it a new one so you can get back in |
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| 01:26.08 | srged | pingfloyd: I did that and it changes the pass for the current user. and still cant do "su" |
| 01:26.46 | pingfloyd | You might try specifying the user argument then |
| 01:26.59 | pingfloyd | Sudo passwd root |
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| 01:27.18 | pingfloyd | But usually shouldn't have to |
| 01:27.53 | srged | pingfloyd: it had to. and now it worked. thanks! |
| 01:28.01 | phy1729 | srged: why do you want to su over sudo? |
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| 01:28.16 | pingfloyd | We're also assuming you have the need access through sudo |
| 01:28.18 | srged | phy1729: I want to rename my current user |
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| 01:31.28 | pingfloyd | Yw |
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| 01:32.23 | srged | cant rename the current user, it says is currently used by a process |
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| 01:33.48 | pingfloyd | That sounds like expected |
| 01:34.23 | pingfloyd | srged: you seem on the right track |
| 01:34.26 | srged | pingfloyd: should i login with another user? |
| 01:35.06 | pingfloyd | I would even log in to vc and log all session of changing user |
| 01:35.18 | pingfloyd | That will likely catch it all |
| 01:35.59 | pingfloyd | S/log all/logout all |
| 01:36.18 | srged | brb |
| 01:36.29 | phy1729 | you can get hints on where you're still logged in with who -- too late\ |
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| 01:37.51 | linwiz | Does anyone know when clamav will be updated to 0.98.5? |
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| 01:38.13 | dvs | ,v clamav |
| 01:38.14 | judd | Package: clamav on i386 -- squeeze: 0.98.1+dfsg-1+deb6u3; wheezy: 0.98.4+dfsg-0+deb7u2; sid: 0.98.5+dfsg-1; jessie: 0.98.5+dfsg-1 |
| 01:38.58 | dvs | linwiz: whenever Debian 8 releases |
| 01:39.09 | linwiz | I should rephrase that, I am sorry. Does anyone know when wheezy's clamav will be updated to 0.98.5? |
| 01:39.22 | dvs | linwiz: never |
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| 01:40.16 | linwiz | I'm not sure I understand why that is |
| 01:41.01 | dvs | linwiz: Because a stable release means that it only get security updates, not upgrades. |
| 01:41.23 | phy1729 | debian has a policy of "no new code" for stable |
| 01:41.32 | linwiz | antivirus software doesn't count as security?wtf |
| 01:42.25 | dvs | linwiz: If the clamav program itself has security problems, it will get fixed. |
| 01:42.51 | linwiz | I'll just take care of it myself then. thanks for the info! |
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| 01:46.09 | srged1 | I logged in with another user. and it still says that the user i want to change is in use by a process |
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| 01:50.50 | pingfloyd | srged1: check ps aux |
| 01:51.19 | pingfloyd | srged1: I'd also make sure the user is logged out of X |
| 01:51.48 | pingfloyd | If worse comes to worse, there's single user mode |
| 01:52.03 | pingfloyd | telinit 1 |
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| 01:53.20 | theseb | why does sudo not work if the hostname is not recognized by DNS?....i have a made up name in /etc/hostname and sudo won't work!?!!? |
| 01:53.41 | pingfloyd | But if availability of services is of concern, you'll probably want to find and terminate all procs of that user. Also check who output |
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| 02:01.34 | zechfdf | hi world |
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| 02:01.59 | dvs | zechfdf: halt -p |
| 02:02.14 | zechfdf | dvs: what ? |
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| 02:03.48 | zechfdf | my question > is dotdeb repository ok ? |
| 02:04.28 | dvs | !dotdeb |
| 02:04.28 | dpkg | http://dotdeb.org/ is an unofficial package repository with emphasis on the <LAMP> solution stack, unsupported in #debian. To get support, read http://www.dotdeb.org/2012/08/24/how-to-post-useful-bug-reports/ and report any issues to https://github.com/gplessis/dotdeb-php5/issues . Ask me about <dotdeb alternatives>. |
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| 02:04.54 | zechfdf | looking for php cli with readline support .. |
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| 02:05.33 | zechfdf | but i dont" usualy add other repository but officials .. |
| 02:05.52 | zechfdf | so my question |
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| 02:17.29 | AR45 | ay dios |
| 02:17.58 | AR45 | Having trouble getting mac boot loader to recognize a wheezy image |
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| 02:24.38 | somiaj | AR45: how did you make the image? |
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| 02:24.45 | somiaj | AR45: you may have to disable secure boot |
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| 02:28.24 | AR45 | somiaj: I used dd |
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| 02:28.41 | AR45 | I'll look into that... |
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| 02:37.49 | bbtech | Does this mtr report show that my router is dieing? http://snag.gy/vJ7mD.jpg |
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| 02:40.48 | pingfloyd | bbtech: could mean it's not replying |
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| 02:41.19 | bbtech | pingfloyd, the router is not replying or something else is not replying (modem, comcast)? |
| 02:41.47 | pingfloyd | does your router set to reply to icmp |
| 02:42.13 | pingfloyd | bbtech: the first hop showed a bunch of packet loss, not sure what that second entry is |
| 02:43.05 | pingfloyd | traceroute output is a bit clearer |
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| 02:43.51 | bbtech | pingfloyd, traceroute shows the first and second hope as * * * |
| 02:44.04 | bbtech | first hop is router...maybe second hope is the modem? |
| 02:44.11 | pingfloyd | bbtech: if it is the second hop, then that would be the router one hop away from your router |
| 02:44.54 | pingfloyd | bbtech: yeah that could be your modem |
| 02:45.16 | pingfloyd | bbtech: it's pretty dependent on your setup |
| 02:45.28 | bbtech | I'm not getting 100% packet loss though...or I wouldn't be talking to you :-) |
| 02:45.45 | pingfloyd | bbtech: packets can take different routes each time |
| 02:45.56 | pingfloyd | bbtech: but it being so close to your network... |
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| 02:46.23 | pingfloyd | bbtech: have you tried traceroute instead? |
| 02:46.38 | pingfloyd | bbtech: the output in that may reveal more clues as to what is at that hop |
| 02:47.27 | pingfloyd | it seems strange that it doesn't return anything as far as hostname or ip |
| 02:47.46 | pingfloyd | but upstream it is all fine |
| 02:47.47 | bbtech | pingfloyd, nothing stands out to me in the traceroute: http://paste.debian.net/133749/ |
| 02:48.14 | pingfloyd | I think maybe the router at that hop just is set to not return anything |
| 02:48.23 | pingfloyd | but it looks to me like traffic flowing okay |
| 02:48.36 | pingfloyd | otherwise you would expect loss past that point |
| 02:49.33 | pingfloyd | bbtech: I've noticed a lot of admins set routers and servers to not return icmp requests, which is funny since the ping of death was deprecated from 1998 onward |
| 02:50.00 | _FBi | maybe they don't want anyone to know the IP is live |
| 02:50.04 | bbtech | pingfloyd, let me see if icmp is turned off |
| 02:51.38 | pingfloyd | bbtech: you might also want to ask in #networking |
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| 02:52.05 | bbtech | pingfloyd, thanks, I joined #network and no one was there |
| 02:52.08 | pingfloyd | bbtech: my hunch is it is just the router settings and it being set to not respond |
| 02:52.14 | bbtech | pingfloyd, helps to get the name right |
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| 02:52.52 | pingfloyd | bbtech: try /msg alis list *network* |
| 02:53.55 | bbtech | nice :-) |
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| 02:55.48 | AR45 | http://www.cultofmac.com/162823/linux-creator-linus-torvalds-i-love-my-macbook-air/ |
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| 02:59.46 | pingfloyd | AR45: did you know he gave up on debian because he couldn't get it working on one of his macbooks? |
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| 03:00.04 | notfaye | i wonder if there is a point when you install every dependency in the repositories and relatively big packages wont pull them in afterward |
| 03:00.20 | bbtech | pingfloyd, I think you were right. I flipped a few switches (turned off dos protection, turned on respond to ping from WAN) and packet loss is gone on the router. |
| 03:00.23 | AR45 | pingfloyd, ah I should probably give up too then |
| 03:00.36 | pingfloyd | AR45: Linus pretty much wants a distro that he can run a browser and two terminal sessions out of the box without any tweaking. |
| 03:01.02 | AR45 | pingfloyd: sounds like me |
| 03:01.16 | pingfloyd | AR45: because he cares about an environment that he can simply do kernel programming |
| 03:01.25 | pingfloyd | he doesn't really do much more than that in linux |
| 03:01.35 | pingfloyd | AR45: let me see if I can find you the video |
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| 03:02.07 | bbtech | pingfloyd, actually no, packet loss is back |
| 03:02.13 | bbtech | pingfloyd, guess I didn't wait long enough |
| 03:02.36 | pingfloyd | AR45: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Mg5_gxNXTo |
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| 03:02.50 | pingfloyd | bbtech: that's the pain of intermittent issues |
| 03:03.37 | pingfloyd | bbtech: he comments about his usage and the macbook in that |
| 03:03.46 | bbtech | pingfloyd, yup, totally agree. I'm trying to decide if it is my router or modem or if it is an issue with comcast. |
| 03:03.47 | pingfloyd | AR45: ^ |
| 03:04.07 | bbtech | pingfloyd, I have an appointment where comcast is coming out tomorrow (but will charge me if it is my equipment) |
| 03:04.30 | bbtech | pingfloyd, my cable signal is really low...so I want to blame it on that |
| 03:04.30 | pingfloyd | bbtech: it could be their cable modem |
| 03:04.37 | AR45 | pingfloyd: seen this vid before |
| 03:04.39 | bbtech | pingfloyd, *my cable modem :-) |
| 03:04.58 | pingfloyd | bbtech: that really wouldn't surprise me, nor would it surprise me that it is at their junction. I've had them out to fix some their crappy equipment |
| 03:05.26 | pingfloyd | AR45: they finally came out after I ended up pretty much narrowing down the issue |
| 03:05.35 | pingfloyd | AR45: they couldn't make any excuses at that point |
| 03:05.48 | pingfloyd | comcast is the worst |
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| 03:06.06 | pingfloyd | they're won the worst company in the US award 2 times |
| 03:06.12 | binaryhermit | pingfloyd: comcast is comcastic |
| 03:06.22 | binaryhermit | like getting hit by a freight train |
| 03:06.31 | pingfloyd | bbtech: http://www.theverge.com/2014/8/19/6004131/comcast-the-worst-company-in-america |
| 03:06.34 | srged | can I wrote a script to automatically connect to my vpn when i press a key on my keyboard ? |
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| 03:06.46 | bbtech | pingfloyd, might be time that I switch |
| 03:07.05 | pingfloyd | bbtech: when I read that article there was absolutely no surprise they won that |
| 03:07.15 | pingfloyd | bbtech: I can think of one provider that is worse |
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| 03:07.19 | pingfloyd | sprint |
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| 03:07.20 | Pattrico | anyone here used Browser-sync? |
| 03:07.47 | bbtech | pingfloyd, glad I don't have sprint. I have unlimited data on Verizon :-) |
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| 03:09.00 | pingfloyd | bbtech: my friend used to have sprint |
| 03:09.11 | pingfloyd | bbtech: he's using Verizon now too |
| 03:09.26 | pingfloyd | verizon is expensive, but they have the best customer service |
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| 03:10.11 | pingfloyd | I used to work for them and they pretty much put customer service as their #1 priority |
| 03:10.23 | bitrot | Hey everyone |
| 03:10.43 | bitrot | What packages do I need to build something from source (excluding libraries that the package needs) I'm talking about the build tools. |
| 03:10.52 | bitrot | what are the package names for g++ and c++ |
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| 03:11.10 | pingfloyd | bbtech: I use t-mobile |
| 03:11.24 | pingfloyd | bbtech: it's cheap, unlimited, and no contract |
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| 03:12.04 | pingfloyd | of AT&T and VZ have much better coverage, but that really should be expected. |
| 03:12.05 | bbtech | pingfloyd, were I used to live verizon was the only option as no one else had coverage |
| 03:12.07 | bitrot | nm |
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| 03:12.32 | pingfloyd | bitrot: apt-file is your friend |
| 03:12.50 | pingfloyd | bitrot: you can do like apt-file search /usr/bin/<executable name> |
| 03:13.02 | pingfloyd | or a substring of that |
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| 03:35.25 | srged | I created a script. and it runs in te background when i click on it. how can I make it run in a terminal so I can see whats happening |
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| 03:39.12 | Pokota | can't you call it from a terminal? |
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| 03:43.16 | MrSavage | Does Debian have nginx with the rtmp module? |
| 03:43.28 | MrSavage | Because I was told if it does not then I would have to compile my own version |
| 03:44.26 | srged | Pokota: I want to run it from a desktop shortcut, or even a keyboard shortcut if possible |
| 03:45.46 | Pokota | hmm... call a terminal window as part of the script, then? |
| 03:46.41 | Pokota | since you're doing this from desktop instead of within a terminal, that sort of cheat should suffice |
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| 03:57.38 | srged | Pokota: whats the syntax for calling a terminal window within the script ? |
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| 04:00.32 | StolenToast | http://isup.me/ftp.uk.debian.org I think it's down |
| 04:01.21 | Pokota | I just had it up, lemme pull up the thing |
| 04:01.47 | Pokota | What terminal emulator do you use? |
| 04:01.59 | Pokota | (it shouldn't matter, but just to CYA) |
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| 04:03.30 | chromas | You may be able to right-click the icon and check a box for opening a terminal |
| 04:03.52 | srged | lxterminal |
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| 04:05.41 | Pokota | I found a couple pages that when combined give: |
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| 04:05.55 | Pokota | x-terminal-emulator -x ./abc.sh |
| 04:06.17 | Pokota | I need to set up a knopbox to test it with, though |
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| 04:06.19 | srged | Pokota: where do I put this pine ? |
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| 04:06.30 | Pokota | in the script, first line |
| 04:06.35 | srged | ok |
| 04:06.35 | Pokota | I think |
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| 04:07.23 | srged | same |
| 04:07.33 | srged | doesnt open in terminal |
| 04:07.37 | Pokota | glub |
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| 04:13.07 | Pokota | Let me pass you the links I found; probably better that way since they do the full steps and all that |
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| 04:13.25 | Pokota | http://askubuntu.com/questions/46627/how-can-i-make-a-script-that-opens-terminal-windows-and-executes-commands-in-the |
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| 04:39.40 | LanDi | what package does provide the "sensors" binary ?? I want to check my cpu temperature... |
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| 04:41.23 | banjo | LanDi: lm-sensors |
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| 04:44.21 | dizzylizzy | haha, i have a folder in / titled "0755" |
| 04:44.34 | dizzylizzy | no idea what could have happened there :) |
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| 04:46.46 | LinuxGuy2020 | Is there any real difference between using "apt-get --print-uris install <package> > packages.txt" and feeding that list to wget, or using "apt-get install --download-only <package>". Wouldnt you get the exact same result? Same exact set of packages? |
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| 04:50.05 | somiaj | LinuxGuy2020: using apt-get --download-only would put the pacakges in /var/apt/cache/archives over the cwd is a difference I could think of |
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| 04:58.31 | LinuxGuy2020 | somiaj:Thats the only thing I see too. Ok thanks. |
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| 05:45.19 | virtualizado | Hello people!!! i am trying to play a game on Debian kde 64 bits, but the game does not load because of some opengl render or something. 1) This are the install instructions http://www.terminal-overload.org/install/ 2) This is the terminal result http://pastebin.com/WhwTQrkN |
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| 05:46.11 | virtualizado | tryed with and without sudo and also checked i have opengl installed |
| 05:46.25 | virtualizado | at least i think it is |
| 05:47.04 | virtualizado | someone here have a clue about what i need to search to find the answer? |
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| 05:48.44 | Blue1 | sorry I don't do many games |
| 05:49.03 | virtualizado | is the first i am trying to play, so i dont know what to do |
| 05:49.07 | virtualizado | never played games on linux |
| 05:49.26 | Blue1 | virtualizado: is it a windoze game? |
| 05:49.40 | virtualizado | nope. linux |
| 05:49.40 | somiaj | virtualizado: what video card do you ahve |
| 05:49.49 | virtualizado | intel onboard |
| 05:50.06 | virtualizado | 256 mb |
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| 05:50.42 | somiaj | virtualizado: not sure why the game is segfaulting, may have to look at the game support. But look at teh output of glxinfo -- does it appear glx drivers are loaded |
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| 05:50.56 | virtualizado | game instructions are unzip, them run the sh file. i did chmod +x ./file.sh then did run it inside Downloads folder |
| 05:50.56 | Blue1 | hmm sure looks like a windows game to me...I don't know of too many .exe files in linux |
| 05:51.07 | virtualizado | lemme see, 1 second |
| 05:51.09 | anon-share | www.anon-share.cf | [FREE] A differente way to share Anonymous content [/FREE] |
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| 05:52.46 | virtualizado | Is not an exe. look the link from my post above, there is an exe and a linux versions |
| 05:52.54 | virtualizado | the glx info returns: http://pastebin.com/85Asm8Qv |
| 05:53.17 | Blue1 | my video card is anaemic -- but otoh I am on a 10 year old system. |
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| 05:53.40 | Blue1 | VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82915G/GV/910GL Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 04) |
| 05:53.49 | virtualizado | i have a intel i5 onboard graphics, but is enough for a game like this. |
| 05:54.10 | Blue1 | i can't even run googleearth |
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| 05:54.24 | Blue1 | sounds like the card should be ok |
| 05:54.29 | gaffa | virtualizado; http://forum.freegamedev.net/viewtopic.php?f=87&t=5964 |
| 05:54.30 | somiaj | virtualizado: again look at teh output of 'glxinfo' what do you see? |
| 05:54.56 | virtualizado | bluel, check thius to run google earth http://www.larsen-b.com/Article/231.html i found researching my problem |
| 05:55.39 | virtualizado | the guy say it optimizes a lot google earth for opengl |
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| 05:57.48 | virtualizado | somiaj, lemme check again |
| 05:58.02 | virtualizado | the glx info returns: http://pastebin.com/85Asm8Qv |
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| 06:05.39 | virtualizado | somiaj, i made a glxinfo grep version http://pastebin.com/kTjhbKY9 |
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| 06:25.12 | mo1991 | Yank holiday yes but we all should be thankful :) |
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| 07:53.40 | AlexPortable | So, can I have 2 dhcp servers in the same network? One for pxe boot and the other for normal clients? |
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| 07:54.48 | format_c | no |
| 07:54.56 | format_c | but one can do both |
| 07:55.14 | format_c | It's up to the client if the PXE options are evaluated or ignored. |
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| 07:57.51 | AlexPortable | Well so its best guess every time if it will work or not? |
| 07:58.42 | format_c | With 2 you have a race condition |
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| 08:02.17 | AlexPortable | Any way to solve this? |
| 08:03.00 | atani73 | hi people, somebody can help me with a samba concept? |
| 08:03.06 | AlexPortable | . |
| 08:03.39 | phy1729 | atani73: #samba might be a better bet |
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| 08:04.16 | format_c | AlexPortable, for what you want to use PXE? |
| 08:04.54 | AlexPortable | format_c: school project, and it seems nice to try it out on some hardware without an harddisk |
| 08:05.26 | atani73 | thank's phy1729, I had not saw that group |
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| 08:05.43 | atani73 | bye people, see you soon |
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| 08:05.53 | AlexPortable | format_c: ltsp |
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| 08:15.10 | wols | AlexPortable: you can if you make the two dhcp servers aware of each other. e.g. let them only react on certain MACs and disable the others. or let them both only give out different IP ranges. with the latter it's a toss up which one "wins" however |
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| 08:20.25 | AlexPortable | So testing in a VM would be better I guess |
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| 08:37.34 | AlexPortable | Ilof: hi |
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| 08:38.45 | Ilof | having some problems to install tun module on linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 |
| 08:38.51 | Ilof | AlexPortable: hi |
| 08:39.44 | brotherBox | Hi, is python 3.4 in the wheezy backports? I added the line to my sources.list but it says the most recent version, even with -t wheezy-backports, is 3.2. Any advice? |
| 08:40.22 | ChrisH | Ilof: start showing what you did incl the system responses to paste.debian.net |
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| 08:49.43 | Ilof | in dmesg I have this -> tun: Unknown symbol ipv6_proxy_select_ident |
| 08:49.48 | critias | I start mysql with "service mysql start". but how can I let it report its progress? IIt does not start, but I can't see why not... |
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| 09:11.01 | AlexPortable | No subnet declaration for eth1 (192.168.1.1). ** Ignoring requests on eth1. If this is not what you want, please write a subnet declaration in your dhcpd.conf file for the network segment to which interface eth1 is attached. ** |
| 09:11.05 | AlexPortable | how can i fix this? |
| 09:11.54 | AlexPortable | subnet 192.168.1.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { |
| 09:11.59 | AlexPortable | i'm pretty sure i wrote subnet declaration |
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| 09:16.05 | AlexPortable | anyone? |
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| 09:19.04 | ychaouche | hello everyone |
| 09:19.10 | moun | hello |
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| 09:21.23 | AlexPortable | nvm it seems to work now |
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| 09:27.40 | critias | should the mysqld be able to write to a file in /tmp? |
| 09:28.28 | ChrisH | critias: yes. whats the problem with writing into /tmp thats what /tmp is there fore |
| 09:28.47 | critias | then it should be 777 ???? |
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| 09:29.56 | ChrisH | critias: it shoudl be 1777 drwxrwxrwt |
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| 09:30.32 | critias | yes.... anyone can write to a dir on my system??? wow |
| 09:31.17 | critias | owner:group is root:root here... |
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| 09:31.52 | ChrisH | critias: yes. but not anyone can delete all files, thats what the t flag ensures. Only the owner can delete a file. If permission of /tmp differs from 1777 someone changed it, without knowing it will break a lot |
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| 09:34.31 | critias | thnx. clear. |
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| 09:47.28 | jpw | is ftp.uk.debian.org down? |
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| 09:48.16 | nkuttler | jpw: looks like ftp is closed, at least |
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| 10:19.56 | Sander_l | Hi. "ip n" gives me INCOMPLEATE for the gateway.. how do I resolve that? networking dosnt work after moving the vm from physical hardware to vmware. |
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| 10:20.24 | Sander_l | soo. the arp adress is unknown. |
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| 10:22.35 | jpw | When you migrated from physical to vmware did you retain the mac address of physical machine? it could be that udev has got confused and created a new interface for the VMware "Virtual" interface that has not yet ben configured. confirm with `ip link' |
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| 10:25.56 | Sander_l | jpw: the interfaces did show up as eth3/4/5 with ifconfig -a.. so I had to delete /etc/udev/rules.d/z25_persistent-net.rules to make them eth0/1/2 |
| 10:26.24 | Sander_l | jpw: now I see the mac adress on eth0 and 1 |
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| 10:27.26 | Sander_l | jpw: eth1 is up.. default gateway is configured right. |
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| 10:30.43 | Sander_l | jpw: I know my kernel works on vmware.. but I got a pretty old debian 4.0 machine. is it critical that I upgrade all packages? |
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| 10:33.00 | jpw | kind of, yes |
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| 10:33.22 | jpw | we can't realistically support a version of debian that is 3 major releases out of date |
| 10:33.22 | jelly | Sander_l: upgrading is nontrivial there, you'd have to go at least from there to debian 5 and to debian 6. |
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| 10:34.18 | jelly | Sander_l: can you verify with tcpdump that traffic for relevant network is actually seen on your eth0, or wherever it needs to be? |
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| 10:35.46 | mihaweb | is there a way to install libs like https://packages.debian.org/sid/x11/xorg-dev and its dependencies in a directory? :) |
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| 10:37.58 | jpw | mihaweb: apt-get download <package> then dpkg --unpack <.deb package> |
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| 10:39.00 | petn-randall | mihaweb: Or debootstrap. Depends on what you want to achieve. |
| 10:39.29 | mihaweb | petn-randall: i want to build wine with xorg support without installing xorg or its dev libs globally, to run wine over ssh |
| 10:39.50 | mihaweb | configure: error: X development files not found. Wine will be built without X support, which probably isn't what you want. You will need to install development packages of Xlib/Xfree86 at the very least. Use the --without-x option if you really want this. |
| 10:40.05 | mihaweb | to confirm next next next install :D |
| 10:40.37 | Sander_l | jelly: tcpdump dosnt show anything when I run it without any arguments. |
| 10:40.40 | petn-randall | mihaweb: Then debootstrap will probably be the easiest way. Why are you recompiling wine? |
| 10:40.49 | mihaweb | petn-randall: i dont want to install wine globally either |
| 10:41.15 | mihaweb | hm |
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| 10:41.30 | jpw | mihaweb: you need to inform ldconfig of the directory that you have libraries installed. |
| 10:41.36 | jelly | Sander_l: you have to manually set eth. interface links up if they're not configured. If they're UP already, this means there's no traffic visible in the guest. |
| 10:42.08 | jpw | this usually means creating a file in /etc/ld.so.conf.d and running `ldconfig` |
| 10:42.19 | mihaweb | perhaps i could just unpack wine .deb but instructions don't say http://wiki.winehq.org/FAQ#head-5d2fd5010318b5facd3ebf67930d1259e67c465f |
| 10:43.06 | jelly | jpw: I don't think dumping -dev packages in a random directory will just work, even if ld.so paths are fixed |
| 10:43.30 | Sander_l | jelly: eth1 is up. but no raffic is visible. |
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| 10:44.46 | Sander_l | jelly: even when I ping the gateway.. nothing shows. |
| 10:44.48 | jelly | Sander_l: that suggests your VM network config for that interface might not be correct |
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| 10:46.08 | mihaweb | oh, i could as well install program in linux in virtualbox and just copy whole wine home dir to server :P |
| 10:46.16 | jelly | Sander_l: set all the interfaces up, and run tcpdump -ni eth0 (and eth2 and eth2) as well, see if there's any traffic anywhere. Their order might be messed up. |
| 10:46.18 | mihaweb | program later supports command line |
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| 10:46.32 | mihaweb | but probably no command line install :) |
| 10:46.46 | jelly | and eth1* and eth2 |
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| 10:55.06 | Sander_l | jelly: seems like I had to change it from eth1/2 to eth0/1 |
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| 10:55.19 | Sander_l | Still some problems. checking vlan config on the hosts. |
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| 11:11.36 | rebel__ | hello guys i have a problem. when i'm trying to use tha latest debian installer (7.7) |
| 11:11.53 | rebel__ | there is not option to format partition as encryption volume |
| 11:13.08 | Sander_l | jelly: I just changed a setting to allow mac adress changes on the host. but it still dosnt work after an reboot. |
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| 11:14.01 | Sander_l | jpw: ^^ |
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| 11:18.00 | jpw | Sander_l: delete the udevd rules and reboot again |
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| 11:23.21 | Sander_l | jpw: jelly: now the udev rules file looks alot better.. only two interfaces.. both are up.. but still tcpdump dosnt say anything. |
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| 11:25.10 | jpw | Sander_l: then i think we can say with confidence that problem is in vmware routing the traffic to the guest. |
| 11:26.14 | jpw | Sander_l: have you statically assigned the IP address on the guest machine? |
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| 11:26.50 | jpw | if so revert to DHCP and bump the interface. |
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| 11:29.10 | rgr | if I dont use a graphical login manager but just login to a console which bash/rc/init file is *only* executed at that user id/password stage ie what I thought would be termed a "login shell"? Problem is that the ones I have tried descrivbed as such are also execed when I open a terminal on my xfce/xmonad desktop leading to duplicate session launches. The basic reason being I want to start dbus-session and ssh-agent only there at the |
| 11:29.10 | rgr | login point. |
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| 11:41.06 | jpw | rgr: the incorrect assumption you're making there is that bash somehow knows if it is being run in an X server already or not. |
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| 11:42.06 | jpw | rgr: don't assume that and test for the existence of an X session (envvar) and continue to use .bashrc |
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| 11:47.57 | Sander_l | jpw, jelly: seems like someone else didnt have "connect at power on" on the network interfaces turned on. didnt notice it untill now. |
| 11:48.50 | Sander_l | now network works:) |
| 11:48.56 | Sander_l | Thanks alot! |
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| 12:39.04 | olofski | Hi. I read http://www.cipherdyne.org/fwknop/docs/fwknop-tutorial.html and I am at point 3.6. Where do I find the test directory? |
| 12:39.18 | anonnumberanon | I'm trying to find /etc/wpa-supplicant/wpa-supplicant.conf but when I nano that file there is nothing in it. The end goal being to see what my network settings are so I can connect my Raspberry Pi running Raspbian to it as well by modifying the (actually existing wpa-supplicant.conf) HElp? |
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| 12:43.05 | KnowledgeOwl | hi everyone |
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| 12:44.57 | wols | anonnumberanon: are you running debian or raspbian? |
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| 12:45.37 | anonnumberanon | both I m trying to find my config on my debian laptop to copy it to my Raspbian settings. |
| 12:45.41 | anonnumberanon | wols |
| 12:45.47 | wols | olofski: did you install from source or a debian package? |
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| 12:46.00 | olofski | wols: debian package |
| 12:46.11 | wols | anonnumberanon: and your debian laptop uses what method for wlan? if you use network-manager, you need to look in there |
| 12:47.00 | wols | olofski: then do a "dpkg -L ... |grep test" on the package to see if there is any "test" directory and its files in it |
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| 12:48.34 | olofski | wols: no, there isnt. |
| 12:48.54 | wols | then you are out of luck. download the source and use the files from that |
| 12:49.10 | anonnumberanon | wols both wicd and network-manager, I'm trying to find the config files for them right now I don't know which one of them is running. |
| 12:49.19 | wols | olofski: check both client and server package btw |
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| 12:49.42 | wols | anonnumberanon: you don't use the config files but run the program(s) and look in there |
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| 12:51.19 | anonnumberanon | wols no man I just need to look at the network connection configuration file |
| 12:51.37 | anonnumberanon | apparently network-manager doesn't have one I'll look for the wicd one |
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| 12:52.36 | wols | anonnumberanon: no you don't. all you need is a password for your wlan router |
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| 12:53.13 | anonnumberanon | wols no man I need the full config like this: network { pass, essid, etcetera} |
| 12:53.49 | KnowledgeOwl | hi everyone. I am trying to install libapache2-mod-ruby and get a dependency problem with apache2.2-common which is already installed. Can you please help? Please see http://paste.debian.net/133801/ |
| 12:53.55 | wols | anonnumberanon: you don't. it's very easy to see what the ssid near you are |
| 12:53.57 | wols | *is |
| 12:54.19 | anonnumberanon | that's how /etc/wpa_supplicantt/wpa_supplicantt.conf is setup on Raspbian. |
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| 12:55.22 | Brigo | ,v libapache2-mod-ruby |
| 12:55.23 | judd | Package: libapache2-mod-ruby on i386 -- squeeze: 1.2.6-2; wheezy: 1.2.6-2 |
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| 12:56.03 | Brigo | KnowledgeOwl, why not install it from wheezy? are you using wheezy? |
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| 12:56.31 | KnowledgeOwl | Brigo, I am using apache2 unstable |
| 12:56.48 | abrotman | KnowledgeOwl: There is no libapache2-mod-ruby in unstable |
| 12:57.04 | KnowledgeOwl | hum... |
| 12:57.21 | KnowledgeOwl | then I have to downgrade apache2 to stable? |
| 12:57.31 | abrotman | KnowledgeOwl: pastebin "apt-cache policy;apt-cache policy libapache2-mod-ruby;apt-cache policy apache2.2-common" |
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| 13:00.35 | KnowledgeOwl | abrotman, see pastie http://paste.debian.net/133802/ |
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| 13:00.58 | KnowledgeOwl | thank you |
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| 13:03.54 | abrotman | be easier if he wouldn't keep quitting .. |
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| 13:04.59 | abrotman | KnowledgeOwl: yeah, you can't really do that .. and your sources are kind of a mess |
| 13:05.25 | KnowledgeOwl | ok thank you. so do I have to downgrade apache2 to stable? |
| 13:05.46 | anonnumberanon | Okay I don't think my connection config file is bad. Must be the driver for the wifi antenna I'm using. |
| 13:06.39 | abrotman | KnowledgeOwl: you're missing the part where your sources are a mess |
| 13:07.26 | KnowledgeOwl | abrotman: no, I read it the first time. I want to have some packages on the unstable and the rest on the stable |
| 13:07.57 | KnowledgeOwl | that is why you see my sources like that |
| 13:08.48 | KnowledgeOwl | so the only way to have libapache2-mod-ruby installed is if I install apache2 stable, right? |
| 13:08.52 | abrotman | KnowledgeOwl: but that's not how you do that .. |
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| 13:09.29 | KnowledgeOwl | abrotman, if I am making a lot of mistakes, please tell me how to properly do it |
| 13:09.43 | KnowledgeOwl | any help is appreciated |
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| 13:10.31 | abrotman | KnowledgeOwl: please tell me this isn't a server on the internet? |
| 13:10.54 | KnowledgeOwl | abrotman, no |
| 13:11.18 | KnowledgeOwl | not a public server |
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| 13:15.20 | abrotman | dpkg: tell KnowledgeOwl about ssb |
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| 13:18.48 | eugenmayer | i just entered a new bridge in network/interfaces ⦠can i get it up and running using ifconfig <interface> up? (seems not so) i would like to avoid a server restart |
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| 13:24.40 | wols | eugenmayer: you can with ifup |
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| 13:25.05 | eugenmayer | wols: i tried ifconfig vmbr10 up |
| 13:25.08 | eugenmayer | "no interface found" |
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| 13:26.30 | tor | Hi, is there anyway for a package maintainer script to detect if its run within a debootstrap? (And yes, this is somewhat of a hack) |
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| 13:28.25 | wols | eugenmayer: I suggested to use ifup for a reason |
| 13:28.56 | eugenmayer | wols: sorry - i (obviously wrong) that that ifup is a alias of ifconfig up |
| 13:29.09 | eugenmayer | wols: please continue - i just had the wrong suggestion |
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| 13:31.50 | wols | eugenmayer: ifup is a command and it has a manpage |
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| 13:32.19 | eugenmayer | ok got you, so RTFM :) |
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| 13:32.38 | wols | something like ifup br0 or so |
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| 13:33.04 | wols | long time since I wrote bridging interfaces file and I'm not the brightest bulb to begin with :( |
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| 13:33.50 | abrotman | increases the wattage |
| 13:34.11 | eugenmayer | cool, even found about ifquery âlist ot check the config |
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| 13:34.14 | rindolf | Hi all. On my Debian partition on my Core i3 machine with Intel 965 graphics, I get <<Failed to open VDPAU backend libvdpau_nvidia.so: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory>> in mplayer and VLC - but I have Intel graphics - why? |
| 13:34.19 | eugenmayer | wols++ |
| 13:34.21 | eugenmayer | Thank you |
| 13:35.06 | wols | abrotman is causing me to burn out. HALP! |
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| 13:38.52 | eugenmayer | wols: just ooi, how is that you dont write the interfaces file? |
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| 13:39.24 | rindolf | wols: what's the issue? |
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| 13:39.44 | wols | I almost always use interfaces instead of nm and the like. I just haven't had a reason to lately. maybe cause there is not much (new) hardware |
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| 13:40.04 | wols | rindolf: apart from a slow brain and abrotman me torturing, there is no issue at all |
| 13:40.33 | eugenmayer | ah you go that slow-brain issue also. been struggling with it..for..ermâ¦decades |
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| 14:05.40 | myrkraverk | Is there anywhere an archive that goes back to 1998? I'm specifically looking for yodl 1.31.2-1 from Tue, 8 Sep 1998 05:08:54 -0600 |
| 14:05.43 | myrkraverk | According to a debian log. |
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| 14:09.35 | somiaj | myrkraverk: check snapshot.debian.org (not sure how far back it goes though) |
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| 14:09.49 | ocx | hi all, how can i join multi part files? ex: http://h20566.www2.hp.com/hpsc/swd/public/detail?swItemId=MTX_83d3c3cf4b3d47b2ae6eb71612&sp4ts.oid=5249571#tab3 |
| 14:09.53 | ocx | is a dd file bootable? |
| 14:09.57 | somiaj | myrkraverk: archive.debian.org will have source code for eariler debian releases, depends if that was an official release in debian |
| 14:10.02 | myrkraverk | "For example, /archive/debian/ shows that we have imports for the main Debian archive, http://ftp.debian.org/debian/, from 2005 until the present." |
| 14:10.10 | myrkraverk | Is there something older there? |
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| 14:11.31 | myrkraverk | The oldest I find is 1.31.7 of yodl, which is "too recent" ;c |
| 14:12.06 | somiaj | myrkraverk: archive.debian.net I think has sorce code older than that |
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| 14:14.19 | somiaj | looks like it goes back to bo wich is 1997 |
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| 14:15.50 | somiaj | myrkraverk: yea looks like you found the oldest there is. Seems there was no package yodl in a version eariler than slink which is the one you found |
| 14:16.04 | somiaj | myrkraverk: could the package have had a different name in bo or hamm? |
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| 14:17.22 | myrkraverk | somiaj, I'm going by this: http://paste.lisp.org/display/144507 |
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| 14:17.44 | myrkraverk | So, apparently, there was an older package in debian. |
| 14:17.47 | Zitter | after .deb installation, how to know new binaries installed (i.e. commands) |
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| 14:18.23 | abrotman | Zitter: dpkg -L pkgname |
| 14:18.23 | somiaj | Zitter: dpkg -L packagename will list the exact files a package installed |
| 14:19.03 | somiaj | myrkraverk: but not in an offical debian release, seems slink was the first offical release that had that package and archive.debian.net only contains offical releases. |
| 14:19.21 | myrkraverk | somiaj, I see. |
| 14:19.27 | Zitter | abrotman, somiaj thanks a lot |
| 14:19.54 | myrkraverk | Is there anything which might still have it? (I haven't yet tried to google the filename, though) |
| 14:20.21 | somiaj | myrkraverk: does the upstream source have an archive of the code, seems you can't get eariler than 1.31.7-1 in debian. Could you just modify any of the changes between 1.31.6 anad 1.31.7 that you need? |
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| 14:20.57 | myrkraverk | somiaj, according to the maintainer, the upstream archive doesn't have it; I haven't searched further. |
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| 14:22.20 | myrkraverk | But I guess I can at least take a look at 1.31.7-1 and see what's there. |
| 14:23.21 | somiaj | myrkraverk: you could use the change log to see what changed and try to 'revert it', since you ahve the source code some of the changes may be in patch form. |
| 14:23.43 | myrkraverk | *nod* that's what I'm hoping. |
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| 14:28.09 | myrkraverk | well, by looking at the tar directory of the original 1.31.7-1, it *may* have what I want. |
| 14:28.11 | myrkraverk | Thanks. |
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| 14:35.11 | srged | I changed the hostname of my debian system and now when i run a command i get the "unable to resolve host" error |
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| 14:36.20 | Brigo | srged, how did you change it? |
| 14:36.36 | srged | Brigo: I edited the /bin/hostname file |
| 14:37.08 | ChrisH | srged: how? |
| 14:37.16 | srged | as root |
| 14:37.25 | ChrisH | srged: how? |
| 14:37.32 | Brigo | srged, /etc/hostname want you say? |
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| 14:37.38 | petn-randall | srged: /bin/hostname is an executable. |
| 14:37.46 | srged | sudo nano |
| 14:37.55 | srged | petn-randall: yes |
| 14:38.21 | petn-randall | srged: Yeah, you should edit executables, that's not the right way. |
| 14:38.29 | petn-randall | *shouldn't |
| 14:38.40 | abrotman | srged: what's in /etc/hosts also? |
| 14:39.07 | ChrisH | srged: grep $(cat /etc/hostname) /etc/hosts ; getent hosts $(cat /etc/hostname) ; do these two commands show the expected output incl. an IP adress? |
| 14:39.45 | srged | abrotman: just the new name of my host, nothing else |
| 14:40.42 | srged | ChrisH: http://paste.debian.net/133822/ |
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| 14:41.01 | srged | linux = my old hostname, and x = the new hostname |
| 14:41.53 | ChrisH | srged: that looks weird... please to cat /etc/hosts and cat /etc/hostname to paste.debian.net |
| 14:42.27 | AR45 | debian |
| 14:42.35 | AR45 | 127.0.0.1localhost |
| 14:42.37 | AR45 | 127.0.1.1debian |
| 14:42.40 | AR45 | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:42.41 | AR45 | # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts |
| 14:42.43 | AR45 | ::1 localhost ip6-localhost ip6-loopback |
| 14:42.45 | AR45 | ff02::1 ip6-allnodes |
| 14:42.48 | AR45 | ff02::2 ip6-allrouters |
| 14:42.56 | Brigo | AR45, stop paste here! |
| 14:43.32 | Brigo | AR45, or you will be kicked (anti spam protection) paste in paste.debian.net |
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| 14:43.56 | srged | ChrisH: http://paste.debian.net/133825/ |
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| 14:44.07 | AR45 | brb |
| 14:44.26 | Shadow_7 | AR45: hostname consists of /etc/hostname (the actual name), and /etc/hosts which describes the network location for said hostname. Some apps (audio ones) fail if that ipv6 stuff is there and isn't an ipv6 network. |
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| 14:47.38 | ChrisH | srged: http://paste.debian.net/133827/ If you change it that way it should work |
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| 14:50.30 | srged | ChrisH: thx! |
| 14:50.36 | srged | should i reboot? |
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| 14:53.55 | ChrisH | srged: prefered to make sure all is OK |
| 14:53.56 | hojgaard | can anyone tell me if i can configure a non-us keyboard layout for my debian server 7.7 in preseed? i cant seem to find a way... |
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| 14:54.53 | srged | good. thank you |
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| 14:55.37 | brotherBox | hojgaard: did you try https://superuser.com/questions/724294/set-keyboard-layout-in-debian-wheezy-with-preseed ? |
| 14:57.09 | hojgaard | brotherBox, yes i did.. It works fine for US, but when i change to da it does not work... |
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| 15:16.46 | ignazinho | ciao |
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| 15:16.55 | ignazinho | !lista |
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| 15:30.05 | tix | ciao |
| 15:30.08 | tix | !list |
| 15:30.08 | dpkg | tix: vedi http://packages.debian.org/ |
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| 15:35.29 | sunbeam | hi, i've got a linux server, and there should be an smtp server running |
| 15:35.39 | sunbeam | how can i find out what ip and port it has to access it to send mails |
| 15:36.10 | Cpuroast | Port 25 |
| 15:36.13 | Cpuroast | Usually |
| 15:36.28 | digdilem | smtp's defaulgt port is 25. ip depends - you should know that |
| 15:37.03 | Cpuroast | And usually the same ip you are using the access it via ash |
| 15:37.08 | Cpuroast | Ssh |
| 15:37.24 | digdilem | if you meant smarthost, that's something else, but your question is hard to understand |
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| 15:38.49 | sunbeam | ok |
| 15:38.51 | sunbeam | thanks Cpuroast |
| 15:38.58 | sunbeam | how can i test if the login works? |
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| 15:39.08 | sunbeam | with linux |
| 15:39.15 | Cpuroast | A mail client |
| 15:39.18 | Cpuroast | :) |
| 15:39.28 | pfote | telnet :-) |
| 15:39.31 | sunbeam | not possible in telnet? |
| 15:39.34 | sunbeam | pfote: how ? :P |
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| 15:39.49 | Cpuroast | Telnet to port 25 |
| 15:40.01 | pfote | telnet to the server, say HELO and speak a bit SMTP ;-) |
| 15:40.18 | sunbeam | how do i do that :P |
| 15:40.34 | Cpuroast | Type |
| 15:40.37 | Cpuroast | :) |
| 15:40.40 | sunbeam | telnet domain.com 25 |
| 15:40.41 | sunbeam | done |
| 15:40.43 | sunbeam | and now :P ? |
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| 15:41.02 | pfote | server should have greeted you |
| 15:41.20 | sunbeam | yes it did |
| 15:41.49 | pfote | type "HELO localhost" |
| 15:42.13 | sunbeam | done |
| 15:42.20 | sunbeam | it says hello back |
| 15:42.46 | pfote | type QUIT and paste that somewhere |
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| 15:43.00 | fundies | hay Cpuroast |
| 15:43.01 | sunbeam | i mean how can i find out my smtp login? |
| 15:43.03 | sunbeam | I want to test it |
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| 15:43.29 | pfote | sunbeam: you dont have a "login" in plain smtp |
| 15:43.34 | Cpuroast | The server may not need authentication |
| 15:43.55 | _FBi | ^ |
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| 15:44.10 | _FBi | google stmp and you can send an email from telnet |
| 15:44.14 | sunbeam | pfote: how do you send mail then using smtp? i mean i assume not everybody can login |
| 15:44.32 | sunbeam | ok |
| 15:44.33 | sunbeam | thanks |
| 15:44.35 | _FBi | http://www.yuki-onna.co.uk/email/smtp.html |
| 15:44.39 | Cpuroast | Normally you restrict who can access it |
| 15:44.47 | Cpuroast | Firewall, SMTP rules |
| 15:44.49 | Cpuroast | Etc |
| 15:44.58 | koolfy | Hey, will apt-get abort on a conffile change prompt if the option -y is used? if not, how can it be forced to abort in that case? |
| 15:45.25 | _FBi | kill -9 ? |
| 15:45.51 | koolfy | I'm trying to automate things a bit :) |
| 15:46.02 | pfote | sunbeam: if you can telnet to a MTA and send a mail to somewhere else, you created a open relay .. thats about the worst thing one can do :-) |
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| 15:46.13 | Cpuroast | If your system is authorized to talk to it, it just says you, mail server, send this email! |
| 15:46.22 | _FBi | spammers will look for Open SMTP servers |
| 15:46.27 | pfote | ^ |
| 15:46.33 | _FBi | they'll use your shit to spam the world |
| 15:46.42 | _FBi | then your IP gets black listed |
| 15:46.45 | abrotman | !enter |
| 15:46.45 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 15:46.56 | _FBi | heh |
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| 15:49.24 | petn-randall | _FBi: kill -9 is always the worst possible way to terminate a process. |
| 15:49.44 | eleve | Hello guys ! |
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| 15:50.39 | eleve | i would know what are the best programming language ? |
| 15:50.48 | terminator | C++ |
| 15:50.53 | Brigo | bash |
| 15:50.54 | terminator | java |
| 15:51.06 | Brigo | fortran? :D |
| 15:51.08 | terminator | perl too |
| 15:51.26 | eleve | I've been told that the best is ruby |
| 15:51.28 | Brigo | not perl, please :D |
| 15:51.36 | eqxk | define 'best' |
| 15:51.39 | user342346523 | hello, i'm trying to find out the chipset used in a usb-to-com converter-cable, but i didn't get far by using 'lsusb' and 'lspci' , any ideas/hints on how to figure out the chipset? |
| 15:51.43 | Brigo | i have never used ruby so i can tell. |
| 15:51.49 | eleve | best = earn much money |
| 15:51.57 | eqxk | lol |
| 15:52.03 | eleve | rofl |
| 15:52.07 | Cpuroast | Assembly |
| 15:52.43 | eleve | Anyone else have an idea ? |
| 15:52.52 | Cpuroast | Write all your code in hand optimized assembly language |
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| 15:53.04 | Cpuroast | And you'll get speed :) |
| 15:53.11 | eqxk | eleve: you havent even said what you are going to write..:D |
| 15:53.22 | eleve | Nothing |
| 15:53.24 | user342346523 | clear |
| 15:53.28 | user342346523 | woops wrong window :D |
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| 15:53.35 | Cpuroast | Lol |
| 15:53.45 | eleve | I want to be the next Steve Jobs |
| 15:53.50 | Cpuroast | Lol |
| 15:54.03 | abrotman | eleve: Do you need help with Debian? |
| 15:54.05 | _FBi | eleve, Work for microsoft and steal their ideas? |
| 15:54.11 | Cpuroast | lol |
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| 15:54.29 | eleve | Microsoft dont have any idea |
| 15:54.33 | eleve | Apple do |
| 15:54.45 | eleve | Much money in the pocket |
| 15:54.50 | abrotman | eleve: this channel is for Debian support, please take this elsewhere |
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| 15:55.46 | terminator | eleve:If you want real os opt for openvms. |
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| 15:55.57 | eleve | Ok abro ! i want to be the next Ian Murdock |
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| 15:56.10 | abrotman | !ot |
| 15:56.10 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 15:57.09 | koolfy | so, nobody active right know knows if apt-get upgrade -y will abort on conffile changes ? :( |
| 15:57.15 | koolfy | right now* |
| 15:57.38 | abrotman | koolfy: this seems really easy to test, but it would probably create conf.dpkgnew or something like that |
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| 15:58.15 | koolfy | ok... |
| 15:58.33 | koolfy | thanks |
| 15:58.45 | _FBi | ps -A | grep apt but, like mentioned kill -9 isn't a smart thing to do ha |
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| 16:01.36 | koolfy | _FBi: that does not in any way check whether it is stuck on confiles or not. |
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| 16:02.48 | _FBi | oh, sorry miss read ha. thought you just wanted to close it |
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| 16:03.13 | koolfy | nah :) |
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| 16:20.32 | Furai | Hey. I have problems with gpg keys and apt-get update. |
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| 16:21.38 | Furai | https://gist.github.com/d51cf27f14715abe6650 |
| 16:22.02 | Furai | I've tried addind the key, I've purged lists folder...nothing worked so far. |
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| 16:28.57 | petn-randall | Furai: Does it work using the usual debian mirrors? If not, the full output of 'apt-get update' and also the output of 'apt-key list' would be useful. |
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| 16:29.12 | Furai | petn-randall, on it boss. |
| 16:29.37 | Furai | I don't get errors from usual debian mirrors |
| 16:29.41 | Furai | only from that hetzner one |
| 16:29.46 | Furai | So should I just remove it? |
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| 16:30.04 | Furai | http://debgen.simplylinux.ch/ and generate with this one? |
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| 16:33.34 | __marco | hello! how can I see the compilation flags of a package, in the specific case, python? |
| 16:34.02 | __marco | or, specifically, python-dbg |
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| 16:45.03 | koolfy | well looks like apt-get -y dosn't abort on conffile changes prompts :( |
| 16:45.20 | koolfy | maybe he doesn't think we were being serious when we asked not to be prompted :( |
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| 16:45.41 | koolfy | is there really no option to ask him to ignore packages with conffile changes? Or just skip them? |
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| 16:48.10 | albru123 | Hello, I have a $lang issue with deluge. It throws errors like "Can't encode character". I've been told to set the LOCALE and LC_ALL to some UTF-8 locale (cs_CZ in my case). Because I run deluge as daemon, I added this line to init.d script: LANG="cs_CZ.UTF-8" and the same for LC_ALL, I also added those lines to the .profile of deluge daemon user. What I did wrong? Or it is deluge fault? |
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| 16:51.12 | knosys | Hello. Guys is there anyway to know debian username, I dont have access to any user account, i know my user password but cant remember the username |
| 16:51.57 | knosys | I forgot my username and tge root password :S |
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| 16:52.21 | grog | knosys, interrupt grub to boot into singleuser mode, mount / and cat /etc/passwd |
| 16:52.32 | grog | something like that, you should probably just google "reset debian root password" |
| 16:53.12 | mtn | knosys: you can look at the /home folder using a live disk. the folder in /home will be your username |
| 16:53.13 | knosys | Oh didn't know reseting root password was possible. I will look for that thanks |
| 16:53.24 | grog | cat will show you the usernames at least, to reset root password you probably need to remove the @#$*() password from passwd shadowfile |
| 16:54.13 | grog | Package aircrack-ng is not available, but is referred to by another package. |
| 16:54.14 | grog | ... says "iw" replaces it?? |
| 16:54.14 | knosys | Thanks guys |
| 16:54.35 | grog | singleuser mode is easier than bootdisk, imho ;) |
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| 16:57.14 | grog | ok im running a debian build for cubieboard: Linux Cubian 3.4.75-sun4i #36 PREEMPT Sat Feb 8 03:55:37 CST 2014 armv7l GNU/Linux |
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| 16:57.42 | grog | sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get install aircrack-ng, no love |
| 16:57.47 | grog | did i miss something? |
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| 16:59.01 | ctmjr | grog: it is in backports |
| 16:59.24 | grog | apologies, i am new to linux :P lemme go look that up |
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| 17:00.51 | grog | ah cool just another repository, of sketchy untested things. rock on. |
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| 17:02.32 | knosys | Ok editing the /etc/shadow , after modifying grub , this way i could check username |
| 17:02.35 | knosys | great guys! hehe |
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| 17:03.51 | grog | did you clear out the root password while you were in there, to reset it? |
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| 17:17.00 | QwertyDragon | http://www.debianandstuff.com/ Anyone know when or if this podcast is still going to have more shows? |
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| 18:10.36 | grog | alright i hope it's noob hour because here goes... i want gpsd-clients, but without all the x11 stuff, did 'sudo apt-cache search gpsd' but there doesn't appear to be a -NoX11 package (is that even a thing on debian/linux?) so i take it my next step would be to compile the specific bits/options i want myself? is apt-src the right path to doing so? |
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| 18:14.03 | somiaj | grog: what sort of depends are you not liking. I don't see any obivious depends on x in that package, though I guess it does depend on python-gtk2 |
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| 18:15.55 | grog | a dozen different libx's and python... it's a bundle of six or eight gps clients, i really only want one of them |
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| 18:16.30 | grog | this poor lil cubieboard has limited resources, dont wanna junk it up with stuff i dont need |
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| 18:17.09 | somiaj | most the libs are not that small, and really only just take up space which is usually fairly cheap (unless you are on an embeded system) |
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| 18:17.38 | grog | 4GB NAND :) |
| 18:17.47 | somiaj | sorry are fairly small, and depending on libs means you can have the depends without pulling in all of X |
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| 18:18.03 | somiaj | but yes, if youd on't like the packages provided you will have to compile your own |
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| 18:18.13 | grog | you're right, they're just libs i could definitely live with it.. 60MB it says.. |
| 18:18.37 | grog | i think i'd be a good noob exercise for me, to learn how debian does it |
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| 18:18.49 | somiaj | !tell grog about ssb |
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| 18:19.07 | somiaj | Note, that is just a good factiod for getting and bulding a debian source package (it doensn't have to be from sid) |
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| 18:19.33 | somiaj | after you get the source you can then modify the debian/rules and various commands to take out the depends you don't need. Here I'm a bit lost as the best way to go about it |
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| 18:20.47 | grog | np i did start reading about apt-src but didnt wanna get too far ahead of myself without checking, never know what's good/best/new/etc. |
| 18:20.49 | grog | thank you :) |
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| 18:28.46 | grog | A90, you traitor |
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| 18:47.58 | Iridos | grog, you can just edit the binary package, remove dependencies and delete some of the clients... I still wonder if you want that thing in a package at all |
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| 18:48.42 | Iridos | grog, it might be better to just install the dependencies you need and put the binary into /usr/local/bin |
| 18:48.59 | Iridos | (which would get messy if you do that in more than one case) |
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| 18:55.07 | Bierdieb | http://paste.debian.net/133860/ any idea why sudo doesnt work correctly ? |
| 18:55.09 | tm512 | will the debian installer be able to run from a hard drive? |
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| 18:55.53 | grog | Iridos, just ended up installing the whole thing :/ can always blow it away after im done testing |
| 18:56.01 | tm512 | This machine that I'm working on can't boot from CD, has no USB, and only one hard drive |
| 18:56.30 | Brigo | tm512, that is for you: http://goodbye-microsoft.com/ |
| 18:56.35 | Bierdieb | ur ein trouble then^ |
| 18:56.42 | RoyK | pxe? |
| 18:56.59 | RoyK | tm512: what sort of machine is this? |
| 18:57.10 | tm512 | I'm guessing that I can copy the initrd and kernel found here, then use a boot floppy that can find the kernel: http://ftp.nl.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/main/installer-powerpc/current/images/powerpc/hd-media/ |
| 18:57.15 | tm512 | it's a very old mac |
| 18:57.34 | Brigo | tm512, forget my link, then. |
| 18:57.35 | RoyK | tm512: :) |
| 18:57.45 | abrotman | tm512: no floppy drive? |
| 18:57.50 | RoyK | tm512: what sort of mac? |
| 18:57.56 | abrotman | dpkg: tell tm512 about ppc |
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| 18:58.07 | tm512 | RoyK: an old world one |
| 18:58.17 | tm512 | buggy open firmware |
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| 18:58.42 | abrotman | Bierdieb: you're doing it wrong |
| 18:58.49 | tm512 | I have an iquik boot floppy that can run kernels from the hard drive, I've already done it |
| 18:59.26 | Bierdieb | ?! what do i do wrong then? |
| 18:59.35 | tm512 | but it kernel panics |
| 18:59.55 | RoyK | tm512: a raspberry pi will probably outperform that thing ;) |
| 19:00.00 | Bierdieb | this way to use apt-get worked for aeons |
| 19:00.01 | abrotman | Bierdieb: sudo only is running for the first command, not the second |
| 19:00.08 | Bierdieb | ah |
| 19:00.12 | Bierdieb | okay |
| 19:00.15 | Bierdieb | i understand |
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| 19:00.18 | abrotman | the sudo mna page probably covers that |
| 19:00.19 | Iridos | and this has been like that for eons |
| 19:00.24 | Bierdieb | ill try && sudo then |
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| 19:00.34 | Iridos | that would work |
| 19:00.51 | tm512 | RoyK: it's more about getting modern linux running on it. |
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| 19:01.07 | RoyK | tm512: how much memory does it have? what sort of cpu? |
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| 19:01.23 | tm512 | 136MB ram, maxed out |
| 19:01.27 | RoyK | pre-usb macs tend to be rather old |
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| 19:01.27 | abrotman | tm512: there's a #debianppc on irc.oftc.net |
| 19:01.37 | tm512 | 200MHz 603e |
| 19:01.41 | tm512 | it's from 1996 |
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| 19:01.59 | tm512 | I do have an ATI Rage 128 in it |
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| 19:02.12 | tm512 | so it can do 1080p video, at least :P |
| 19:02.23 | tm512 | and also an ethernet card |
| 19:02.44 | abrotman | you could try to install via tftp if it supports PXE |
| 19:03.16 | RoyK | tm512: I beleive listen to abrotman - #debianppc @irc.oftc.net |
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| 19:03.32 | tm512 | I don't think this firmware supports that, and if it did, I doubt it'd work reliably |
| 19:03.56 | tm512 | I mean this thing won't boot from a floppy drive if you're using the builtin video as an output device |
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| 19:04.01 | tm512 | it's really buggy |
| 19:04.14 | RoyK | tm512: get a pi :P |
| 19:04.24 | RoyK | tm512: really, it isn't worth it |
| 19:04.30 | tm512 | I had a cubieboard at one point |
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| 19:04.58 | Bierdieb | thx |
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| 19:05.08 | tm512 | there's something about getting linux up and running on old hardware that is just fun |
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| 19:05.34 | RoyK | tm512: ah - get it ;) |
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| 19:07.03 | Bierdieb | does xscreensaver gl run on the pi? |
| 19:07.08 | tm512 | given the right workload, it could even be a useful computer |
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| 19:08.35 | tm512 | maybe as "no-destractions programming workstation where web browsing is impractical and I have enough time to get coffee every time I recompile" |
| 19:08.40 | RoyK | tm512: given very little workload ;) |
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| 19:08.49 | tm512 | and then I'd be hospitalized for caffeine overdosage |
| 19:08.57 | RoyK | tm512: hehe |
| 19:08.59 | Bierdieb | ^ |
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| 19:09.48 | tm512 | but my current plan is to just partition the disk from a newer computer |
| 19:10.05 | tm512 | put the installation files in the partition that I want to use as swap |
| 19:10.17 | tm512 | boot it, go through installation, ignoring swap |
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| 19:10.45 | tm512 | and hope the result will boot |
| 19:11.03 | tm512 | then I can set up that partition as swap with mkswap, swapon, and fstab changes |
| 19:11.36 | RoyK | tm512: I've used dd to make an installation on an existing drive before. Does this thing have any possibility of attaching another drive? |
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| 19:12.27 | tm512 | RoyK: just one. I rsynced my installation over. I'm assuming it doesn't have all the proper modules in the ramdisk |
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| 19:13.12 | tm512 | I don't know if I'd have better luck with the installer |
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| 19:13.31 | tm512 | my other thought, and something that I've actually started on, before I thought of this |
| 19:13.42 | tm512 | was to build a kernel here on my main pc |
| 19:13.45 | tm512 | without modules |
| 19:13.52 | tm512 | then try to boot from that |
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| 19:16.29 | tm512 | brb, store |
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| 19:19.52 | jhutchins | tm512: The install guide has instructions for installing from a hard disk partition. |
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| 20:21.21 | zh1 | can i encrypt home after install just like on debian installation? |
| 20:21.48 | abrotman | You can, but you'd have to backup your data and then recreate it (AFAIK) |
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| 20:33.45 | zh1 | abrotman backup is the easy part, any wiki article on that? |
| 20:33.54 | owen1 | I am hitting my adaptive Fn key by mistake and want to make it harder to hit it (by adding shift) or completely disable it. xmodmap -pke |grep 151 shows keycode 151 = XF86WakeUp NoSymbol XF86WakeUp NoSymbol XF86WakeUp. I tried this: xmodmap -e 'keycode 151 = NoSymbol XF86WakeUp NoSymbol' and xmodmap -e 'keycode 151 =' but nothing happened. any ideas? |
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| 20:43.05 | zh1 | abrotman, would this https://wiki.debian.org/TransparentEncryptionForHomeFolder be the debian wiki article to follow? |
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| 20:45.57 | Brigo | zh1, it looks good. |
| 20:47.06 | zh1 | Brigo do you know if on install is ecryptfs-utils thats used? |
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| 20:48.01 | Brigo | zh1, i think i cannot understand you, sorry. |
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| 20:49.22 | zh1 | Brigo i mean if on debian install is the ecryptfs-utils thats used to encrypt home? |
| 20:49.41 | Brigo | zh1, i doubt it. |
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| 20:50.06 | Brigo | i think debian installer encryps whole filesystems |
| 20:51.07 | zh1 | wanna replicate that but after debian install |
| 20:51.38 | zh1 | to avoid installing OS again |
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| 22:04.21 | anonnumberanon | Can I use network-manager-gnome for my networking, as an XFCE user? |
| 22:04.32 | Epakai | yes |
| 22:04.48 | anonnumberanon | okay |
| 22:04.55 | anonnumberanon | keeping on reading the manual then |
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| 22:08.16 | Alissa | I'm trying to fix apt-get; something happened when I was trying to install xfce-4 |
| 22:08.21 | Alissa | Can someone help? |
| 22:09.12 | brentaarnold | I'm having an issue installing nut on Debian Jessie. I'm getting the following outputs: http://paste.debian.net/133875/ Any ideas? |
| 22:09.32 | abrotman | Alissa: we need more information |
| 22:09.40 | brentaarnold | I've also got both nut-client and nut-monitor sitting in systemctl as failed. |
| 22:10.26 | abrotman | brentaarnold: it tells you how to get more details, have you done that yet? |
| 22:10.34 | brentaarnold | systemctl status nut-driver.service |
| 22:11.02 | Brigo | Alissa, try to paste the output in paste.debian.net and we will see. |
| 22:11.16 | brentaarnold | http://paste.debian.net/133876/ |
| 22:11.25 | brentaarnold | abrotman: % |
| 22:11.27 | brentaarnold | ^* |
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| 22:11.48 | Kobra | brentaarnold: sudo journalctl -flu nut-driver.service |
| 22:12.35 | Kobra | rather, use -lu (f is follow, like tail -f /var/log/x.log) |
| 22:12.54 | Alissa | abrotman: I tried installing xfce a whiel back and for some reason nothing works with apt-get or dpkg |
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| 22:13.23 | Gaming4JC | Hello everyone, trying to do an update on wheezy and seeing this... GPG error: http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 8B48AD6246925553 Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (7.0/wheezy) <ftpmaster@debian.org> |
| 22:13.27 | Gaming4JC | did GPG keys change? |
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| 22:14.09 | brentaarnold | Kobra: http://paste.debian.net/133879/ |
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| 22:14.55 | abrotman | Alissa: Right, we need to see the error |
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| 22:15.21 | abrotman | brentaarnold: the other command ... |
| 22:15.25 | Alissa | abrotman: is there a way to get an error without a desktop environment. |
| 22:15.39 | Alissa | ? |
| 22:15.39 | abrotman | dpkg: tell Alissa about pastebinit |
| 22:16.25 | brentaarnold | abrotman: I don't follow? |
| 22:16.30 | Alissa | abrotman: Is it default for Debian? |
| 22:16.51 | Brigo | brentaarnold, i think you can see the problem in the las paste, line 3. |
| 22:16.51 | Kobra | brentaarnold: that doesn't look like the full log, it should start with something along the lines of "systemd[1]: Starting Network UPS Tools..."; but either way, line 3 of the message seems useful |
| 22:17.17 | Brigo | sometimes systemd rocks :) |
| 22:17.31 | Kobra | sometimes? what do you mean *just* sometimes? |
| 22:17.36 | Kobra | :P |
| 22:18.11 | Gaming4JC | sometimes I wish systemd was only in Arch |
| 22:18.12 | Gaming4JC | :P |
| 22:18.26 | Sia- | its possible to use different keyboard layout in the program/webbrowser tabs? |
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| 22:19.15 | Brigo | :D |
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| 22:20.00 | brentaarnold | Brigo: Kobra: unfortunately, I am finding several hits on Google with similar (or exact issues) but no solutions :X |
| 22:20.40 | Brigo | brentaarnold, sadly, i have never used it, so i can go deeper. |
| 22:21.11 | teraflops | Gaming4JC: systemd is not related to arch at all |
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| 22:22.56 | Alissa | abrotman: If pastebinit can't be installed wtihout dpkg/apt-get then I can't install it. |
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| 22:23.47 | teraflops | Alissa: <command> | curl -F 'sprunge=<-' http://sprunge.us |
| 22:23.57 | Kobra | brentaarnold: i'm in the same boat as Brigo, but just out of interest, does /etc/nut/ups.conf exist? in if it does not, try looking at the conf files from https://packages.debian.org/squeeze/s390/nut/filelist |
| 22:24.34 | brentaarnold | Kobra: It does, and I've even tried a fix I found where you go into ups.conf and replace the type with standalone, but to no avail. |
| 22:24.50 | Kobra | hmm |
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| 22:25.48 | rek | hi |
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| 22:26.38 | Alissa | teraflops: curl: command not found |
| 22:26.58 | Brigo | Alissa, no luck. |
| 22:27.04 | teraflops | Alissa: damn you need to install curl xD |
| 22:27.05 | Alissa | Blah, alright. |
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| 22:27.16 | Alissa | teraflops: Tell that to apt-get. |
| 22:27.41 | Brigo | did you already try apt-get -f install and dpkg-reconfigure -a ? |
| 22:27.55 | anonnumberanon | What could be the problem if I open Network Manager but no wifi networks show up? |
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| 22:28.41 | Alissa | Brigo: As suggested from a friend, yes. |
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| 22:29.40 | Brigo | Alissa, it will be a problem to solve your problem without data :-/ |
| 22:30.02 | Kobra | anyone know when Lua5.3 is to be expected? (will the maintainers wait for it to be released ofiically and not a preview?) |
| 22:30.08 | Brigo | anonnumberanon, driver? |
| 22:30.22 | augustN | Hi guys. I have a quick questions. In the debian iso-dvd download page, there are 3 iso files. a 3.7G, 4.4G and a 4.3G.. What's the difference betweent the three? and which one should I download? |
| 22:30.28 | Alissa | Brigo: I wish it were pos-wait... |
| 22:30.30 | Alissa | I have Lua. |
| 22:30.36 | Alissa | Gimme a second, I'm going to write a script to do it. |
| 22:30.49 | anonnumberanon | Brigo, i think it should be okay it's one of those cards that don't need a driver. |
| 22:31.08 | anonnumberanon | RTL8187 |
| 22:31.18 | zh1 | anonnumberanon, you probably miss firmware? |
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| 22:31.24 | Brigo | anonnumberanon, all cards needs driver, somes of them do not need firwmare. |
| 22:31.32 | Epakai | augustN: they are a set, 2 and 3 contain more packages, none of them are necessary if you have internet access during install, use netinstall iso |
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| 22:32.21 | teraflops | Alissa: do you have netcat iinstalled? |
| 22:32.26 | anonnumberanon | yes |
| 22:32.27 | Brigo | anonnumberanon, the firmware si in firmware-realtek |
| 22:32.46 | Alissa | teraflops: Might, I'll check. |
| 22:32.49 | anonnumberanon | what? how do you know that? |
| 22:32.51 | augustN | Epakai: thanks. So the netinstall doesn't contain any additional packages? |
| 22:33.04 | Alissa | teraflops: Luckily, yess. |
| 22:33.11 | teraflops | Alissa: if you do have netcat just paste as in cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999 |
| 22:33.19 | anonnumberanon | Brigo, I've been researching it all day. |
| 22:33.39 | Alissa | teraflops: just "cat /etc/fstab | nc termbin.com 9999" ? |
| 22:34.07 | augustN | Epakai: Thanks. |
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| 22:34.15 | teraflops | Alissa: nope _whatever i want to paste_ | nc termbin.com 9999 |
| 22:34.19 | Epakai | augustN: it's just an installer, it expects to pull packages from a repository. |
| 22:34.31 | Brigo | anonnumberanon, you are not the first asking that year :) |
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| 22:35.04 | Alissa | http://termbin.com/78t8 Brigo, that's teh dpkg reconfigure. |
| 22:35.06 | Alissa | the* |
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| 22:35.21 | Epakai | augustN: the dvd set has most common packages on iso 1, i think it includes enough for a gnome desktop and other popular packages |
| 22:35.46 | Brigo | Alissa, there are only a line: Stopping ACPI services.... |
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| 22:36.43 | Alissa | Brigo: Seriously? :I |
| 22:36.46 | Alissa | teraflops: ^^ |
| 22:36.47 | teraflops | Alissa: > to file the full output if youre ok with that then echo _the_file | nc termbin.com 9999 |
| 22:37.05 | teraflops | Alissa: hey you did t wrong! |
| 22:37.09 | Brigo | Alissa, check yourself the link. |
| 22:37.19 | Kobra | eh, does anyone else wish that Lua's versions, and module locations didn't derive from the version of Lua, but rather the ABI version? (where the ABI version is increased if not backwards compatible) |
| 22:37.28 | Kobra | shouldn't* |
| 22:37.35 | Alissa | I'm stuck at a terminal trying to install a desktop with no idea how most of Debian works. |
| 22:37.42 | Alissa | or linux in general. |
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| 22:38.09 | anonnumberanon | Brigo, it turns out that firmare-realtek is already installed. |
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| 22:38.14 | everamzah | perhaps try tasksel, it'll give you an option of which desktop to install. |
| 22:38.26 | Alissa | teraflops: What did I do wrong? |
| 22:38.28 | Brigo | anonnumberanon, so that was not the problem |
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| 22:38.43 | anonnumberanon | You think? |
| 22:38.46 | Alissa | Also, it's writing 99% of the output to the tty, not to a file when specified | or > |
| 22:38.47 | teraflops | Alissa: http://termbin.com/pnoj ;) |
| 22:38.56 | Alissa | teraflops: How can I see that file? |
| 22:39.40 | teraflops | Alissa: i.e sudo apt-get update > mypaste && cat mypaste | nc termbin.com 9999 |
| 22:40.18 | Megaf | Hi all, I'm having troubles to mount with exec option on |
| 22:40.28 | Megaf | It keeps mounting it as noexec |
| 22:40.32 | Megaf | any help? |
| 22:41.09 | Megaf | These are the options I'm using on fstab. tmpfs rw,exec,user,size=1024M 0 0 |
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| 22:42.49 | Brigo | teraflops, why apt-get update? :D apt-get upgrade !! :D |
| 22:43.06 | teraflops | Brigo: hehe whatever i do not know the issue lol |
| 22:43.14 | Brigo | Alissa, we need 'sudo apt-get upgrade > mypaste && cat mypaste | nc termbin.com 9999 |
| 22:43.37 | Brigo | teraflops, apt-get database brocken, looks like we didnt know too :) |
| 22:44.06 | teraflops | ah srry Alissa & Brigo |
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| 22:44.49 | Brigo | teraflops, i forgive you only because the package is already in Spain :D |
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| 22:44.55 | teraflops | ;) |
| 22:45.41 | Brigo | Alissa, or whatever command you are trying to use and fails. |
| 22:47.25 | Brigo | anonnumberanon, we will need you paste some logs too, can you paste /var/log/syslog in paste.debian.net? |
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| 22:48.05 | anonnumberanon | yeah might take some time the system is not booting correctly |
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| 22:48.39 | Brigo | anonnumberanon, no hurry, |
| 22:49.57 | Alissa | Brigo: Any attempt at using the program fails and writes to stdout, not to a file that I tell it to write to. |
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| 22:50.38 | Brigo | Alissa, 'sudo apt-get upgrade 2>$1 > mypaste && cat mypaste | nc termbin.com 9999 |
| 22:50.42 | Brigo | i think :-m |
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| 22:51.19 | Brigo | Alissa, 'sudo apt-get upgrade 2>&1 > mypaste && cat mypaste | nc termbin.com 9999 warning, & not $ |
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| 22:53.32 | Alissa | http://termbin.com/36ly Brigo |
| 22:54.27 | teraflops | Alissa: ^ |
| 22:54.42 | Alissa | teraflops: Why am I pinged? |
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| 22:55.41 | Brigo | Alissa, i have never seen a mess like that :D what was you trying to do? |
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| 22:56.54 | Alissa | Brigo: I think xfce4 failed |
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| 22:57.22 | Brigo | Alissa, not only xfce4. |
| 22:57.31 | Brigo | are you in wheezy?, jessie? |
| 22:57.33 | Alissa | I think /everything/ failed really. |
| 22:57.43 | Alissa | Haven't used this computer in like a year. |
| 22:57.57 | Alissa | What command can I use to find out, Brigo? |
| 22:58.01 | augustN | I'm not a linux power-user. I only started using linux last month. Is debian jessie an okay distro for me to work with? |
| 22:58.27 | brentaarnold | augustN: If I was you I'd go with a stable version to start off. |
| 22:58.33 | Alissa | ^ |
| 22:58.46 | Brigo | Alissa, wheezy, i saw it from you first paste apt-get update are using wheezy sources |
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| 22:58.50 | augustN | brentaarnold: I can't use the stable version on my machine because of UEFI |
| 22:59.11 | brentaarnold | augustN: In most BIOS you can disable UEFI and put it under legacy. |
| 22:59.29 | Alissa | Brigo: Then you've answered yourself. :P |
| 22:59.41 | Brigo | Alissa, yes :) |
| 23:00.00 | Brigo | did you know that package, rmnologin? |
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| 23:01.16 | Brigo | it looks like a foreign package and a problematic one. |
| 23:02.03 | Alissa | Wow, I'm missing that install disk... I had it lying around somewhere but of course it poofed. |
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| 23:03.19 | Brigo | Alissa, i think your better bet is to use aptitude upgrade. It will show you severals alternatives, chose the better for you. |
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| 23:06.34 | brentaarnold | How do I make an executable file in /usr/local/bin/ executable by a certain user as opposed to requiring root? |
| 23:06.57 | augustN | brentaarnold: i tried. but it doesn't boot to debian after installing. |
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| 23:07.11 | Brigo | brentaarnold, change the owner and group |
| 23:07.24 | augustN | brentaarnold: there's no way to create an EFI partition in debian stable |
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| 23:08.16 | brentaarnold | augustN: Then if your only choice with a specific hardware configuration is Jessie, then I'd say go for it. |
| 23:08.39 | brentaarnold | I'm using Jessie and I don't find it to be too different from Stable, but I've run into dependency hell lately. |
| 23:09.16 | Alissa | Brigo: No errors were showed. |
| 23:09.35 | Brigo | Alissa, then aptitude resolv the problem? |
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| 23:10.01 | Alissa | Nope. |
| 23:10.05 | Alissa | Still says it errored |
| 23:10.38 | Alissa | There's a list of packages that errored, but I tried to remove them earlier and that also erroed. |
| 23:11.15 | Brigo | the system is really bad, i cannot imagine how do you get it so bad :) |
| 23:11.39 | Brigo | only for asking: are your disk ok? |
| 23:12.14 | Alissa | Should be, I've ran Vista on it (please don't hate me) for quite a while and never had any problems. |
| 23:12.37 | Alissa | I seriously need to yell at my dad to buy a blank disk, reinstall either this or Ubuntu. |
| 23:13.08 | Brigo | did you have any backups? |
| 23:13.22 | brentaarnold | Brigo: After invoking chown <user> -h <file> I'm still unable to execute said command without the sudo prefix. |
| 23:14.20 | Brigo | brentaarnold, it shoul be the directory permisions, check it |
| 23:14.29 | Alissa | Brigo: Nope. |
| 23:14.33 | brentaarnold | Brigo: The end result of what I'm trying to accomplish here is be able for my .desktop file in /usr/share/applications/ to be able to execute properly. The current menu entry/desktop file are unresponsive. |
| 23:14.35 | Alissa | Didn't have enough disks to backup |
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| 23:16.41 | Brigo | brentaarnold, you do not need to own this files to exec them (they are not executables). |
| 23:16.43 | brentaarnold | Brigo: After taking chown using <user> -hR <file> I'm still unable to ./execute |
| 23:17.19 | brentaarnold | Brigo: Hmm... I'm not sure why I'm still having to use sudo permissions then. |
| 23:17.20 | Alissa | brentaarnold: did you chmod +x the ./execute ? |
| 23:17.22 | Brigo | brentaarnold, they are config files, used by display managers. |
| 23:17.27 | brentaarnold | Alissa: Yes |
| 23:17.40 | Alissa | Maybe it requires you to be superuser to use them? |
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| 23:18.07 | brentaarnold | Alissa: I guess it's possible? |
| 23:18.19 | brentaarnold | The specific application in question is CrashPlan |
| 23:18.33 | Alissa | Never heard of it, can't test it :P |
| 23:18.47 | brentaarnold | O.O |
| 23:18.51 | brentaarnold | CrashPlan is huge, tbh |
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| 23:19.52 | brentaarnold | I guess a better question at this point would be how does one execute a .desktop command using sudo? |
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| 23:20.14 | Alissa | The same way one executes a .desktop command as a normal user? |
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| 23:21.09 | brentaarnold | The .desktop files should be automatically monitored for change in the directory however it's not correct. In the .desktop file I've tried all sorts of executable commands to no avail. |
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| 23:46.59 | aaron83 | http://paste.debian.net/133888/ |
| 23:47.11 | aaron83 | why only add the first user only?? |
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| 23:49.45 | abrotman | aaron83: ask the channel for your DB |
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| 23:50.10 | aaron83 | thanks |
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| 23:58.12 | qw102 | hi. when i click on a weblink in my pdf reader (evince) it tries to use an old firefox binary i downloaded and that no longer exists. does anyone know how to make all programs use iceweasel? the pdf reader itself doesn't have a default browser setting |
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