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| 00:02.38 | shomon | how do I get a squashfs to mount as read write? |
| 00:03.04 | srged1 | I moved aroud with my laptop to grab some water... and it got frozen. I had to power it off from the button. Why was that? |
| 00:03.47 | filenox | check /var/log |
| 00:03.52 | filenox | srged1: |
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| 00:06.21 | rager | works fine in Jessie |
| 00:06.25 | rager | thanks, guys |
| 00:06.50 | srged1 | filenox: bash: /var/log: Is a directory |
| 00:08.10 | filenox | check syslog :) |
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| 00:09.56 | srged1 | filenox: http://paste.debian.net/134260/ |
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| 00:24.42 | wyre | someone knows how can i open Icedtea's ControlPanel ? :D |
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| 00:32.15 | xevious | Are there any restrictions for component names, or is it up to the person who created the repository? |
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| 00:33.55 | knosys | Good night |
| 00:34.04 | bo | i am having an issue with exim4 keep getting bind port in use |
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| 00:38.04 | Brigo | bo it should be another process using the port |
| 00:38.13 | bo | sendmail |
| 00:39.12 | bo | http://pastebin.com/vaMFKRme |
| 00:39.42 | bo | http://pastebin.com/xjWe4BGF |
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| 00:41.11 | HappyNewYear13 | can you tell me if this girl has a lip job? |
| 00:41.22 | HappyNewYear13 | before photo: http://i.imgur.com/3GTIrv0.jpg |
| 00:41.32 | bazhang | HappyNewYear13, wrong network |
| 00:41.37 | HappyNewYear13 | after photo: http://i.imgur.com/SpLAZ1s.jpg |
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| 00:41.55 | Brigo | bo, then what is your problem? |
| 00:41.57 | HappyNewYear13 | it's the same girl. she lost weight. pleas i need your feedback |
| 00:42.09 | zinx | bazhang: more like spammer :/ |
| 00:42.24 | zinx | or just troll, i don't care, they're both useless :) |
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| 00:42.49 | bo | brigo exim4 keeps paniclogging and stopping so emails arent being sent |
| 00:42.54 | HappyNewYear13 | please tell me, lip job? honest question. i have no one els to ask here |
| 00:43.02 | bo | because its says the address is already in use |
| 00:43.23 | Brigo | bo, of course it need the port 25 free, but it is used by sendmail, you have to stop one of them. |
| 00:43.28 | HappyNewYear13 | bazhang, what do you think? did you see the after photo? |
| 00:43.48 | bo | brigo maybe i am missing something, they seem to be somehow tied together |
| 00:43.55 | bo | i do service sendmail stop and it stops MTA |
| 00:44.03 | zinx | bo: can't run two different services on the same port |
| 00:44.05 | bo | and i do service exim4 start and end up in this same place |
| 00:44.25 | bo | so you are saying to change exim4s port? apt-get remove sendmail* says i dont have it installed |
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| 00:44.38 | Brigo | bo try to stop the service and run fuser -n tcp 25 with service stoped |
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| 00:44.49 | zinx | bo: you can run netstat -ntwp as root to see what's got tcp open |
| 00:44.52 | zinx | or fuser, yeah |
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| 00:45.54 | bo | http://pastebin.com/Y82h2kPZ |
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| 00:45.56 | HappyNewYear13 | bazhang, come to debian-offtopic |
| 00:46.24 | bazhang | no |
| 00:47.09 | HappyNewYear13 | bazhang, why not. you can tell me your opinion there |
| 00:47.26 | Brigo | bo, i think there is a lost process running in that port. You are using wheezy, are you? |
| 00:47.32 | bo | yes |
| 00:47.43 | bo | when i stop sendmail exim4 stops too |
| 00:48.42 | Brigo | bo i think sendmail is a link to exim4. Try to kill that process and when you are sure there is nothing listen in port 25 start the service again |
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| 00:49.56 | HappyNewYear13 | which channel do you guys use in your Wifi? |
| 00:50.14 | bo | ah |
| 00:50.18 | bo | i think its working |
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| 00:50.44 | bo | http://pastebin.com/h7kPy1jX |
| 00:50.49 | bo | but i do get that weirdness |
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| 00:53.00 | Brigo | bo, sorry, i have never use exim4. |
| 00:53.14 | bo | yeah i feel kind of dumb |
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| 00:54.04 | bo | brigo it seems to be working |
| 00:54.12 | bo | and the log shows successful mail delivery |
| 00:54.17 | Brigo | bo, good for you :) |
| 00:54.20 | bo | thank you much for your help still dont know why i got stuck |
| 00:54.28 | bo | and why it still says its not running but it works so f it :) |
| 00:54.39 | Brigo | bo, sometimes daemons refuse to be killed :) |
| 00:54.47 | bo | kill em all! |
| 00:54.57 | Brigo | that is the idea! :D |
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| 01:08.34 | HappyNewYear13 | zinx, hey you called me a spammer or troll. i just noticed it. i am none. what's your problem? |
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| 01:09.01 | bazhang | HappyNewYear13, take it elsewhere |
| 01:09.04 | HappyNewYear13 | zinx, i am chatty |
| 01:09.07 | ctmjr | HappyNewYear13: do you need help with debian? |
| 01:09.20 | HappyNewYear13 | ctmjr, not now |
| 01:09.31 | HappyNewYear13 | bazhang, i thought you were a ubuntu user |
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| 01:10.10 | HappyNewYear13 | surprise seeing you here. the world is new to me |
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| 01:10.35 | bazhang | HappyNewYear13, this is NOT the chit chat channel |
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| 01:10.58 | HappyNewYear13 | debian users usually let me talk here |
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| 01:11.15 | HappyNewYear13 | them cool |
| 01:11.18 | diegoviola | I just got kicked/banned from #debianfork and #devuan for saying that I currently run systemd... that's just patethic... I'm sure they'll go far with that attitude! |
| 01:11.43 | HappyNewYear13 | i've neber been banned here in #debian |
| 01:12.03 | Brigo | diegoviola, that is sad, but this is a debian support channel, for chat please use debian-offtopic |
| 01:12.13 | diegoviola | Brigo: ok |
| 01:12.15 | HappyNewYear13 | Brigo, no one talks there |
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| 01:12.29 | HappyNewYear13 | Brigo, i talk and no one replies to me |
| 01:12.30 | Brigo | HappyNewYear13, as i said this is a debian support channel, for chat please use debian-offtopic |
| 01:12.43 | Brigo | or you will be banned. |
| 01:12.50 | HappyNewYear13 | holy. ook |
| 01:12.59 | Waxhead | Hi, I just realized that codeblocks is no longer in the jessie repos. How can I find out what the problem is? |
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| 01:13.36 | Brigo | Waxhead, usually in the package tracking web or in the bug tracking web |
| 01:13.44 | xevious | Are there any rules/restrictions for APT repository component names? I've definitely noticed conventions (main, contrib, non-free, etc.), but can't find any documentation about whether there's a fixed lists of acceptable component names. I'm about to step out, so please PM me if you can help... |
| 01:13.59 | Brigo | https://www.debian.org/Bugs/ or https://packages.qa.debian.org/common/index.html |
| 01:14.09 | Waxhead | Brigo: ok thanks a lot! |
| 01:14.26 | Brigo | Waxhead, yw :) |
| 01:15.00 | Brigo | xevious, yes, there are only those. |
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| 01:15.16 | pussygladiator | yo |
| 01:15.21 | pussygladiator | my debian wont boot |
| 01:15.30 | pussygladiator | how can I recover some important text files from it? |
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| 01:15.43 | Brigo | main -as is name suggest is the main. Contrib is for non-free dependent software, and non-free is self-explanatory too. |
| 01:16.12 | Brigo | pussygladiator, boot from a rescue disk, live disk or install disk and mount the filesystem |
| 01:17.15 | pussygladiator | ok |
| 01:17.19 | Sir_Designer | will debian kernel handle 10-point touch scrrens found on uktrabooks such as on KIRAbiik by Toshiba? |
| 01:17.21 | pussygladiator | how do i mount it? |
| 01:17.30 | pussygladiator | like what would it be called? |
| 01:17.49 | xevious | Brigo: Well, that can't be an exhaustive list. For example, in the default Ubuntu sources.list, there's 'restricted', 'multiverse', 'universe', and 'partner'. I'm trying to determine if APT, itself, defines any limitations or not. |
| 01:18.05 | Brigo | pussygladiator, the name could change, but something like /dev/sda1 or /dev/sda2 or /dev/sdb1, etc |
| 01:18.20 | pussygladiator | ok, thats what i was looking for :). thank you |
| 01:18.33 | Brigo | xevious, i think it does not. |
| 01:18.43 | Brigo | pussygladiator, good luck :) |
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| 01:18.58 | Brigo | pussygladiator, you can try blkid to identify your partition |
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| 01:44.14 | srged1 | does this mean that my TRIM is activated? http://paste.debian.net/134267/ |
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| 01:48.27 | srged1 | Guys, my samsung sdd have TRIM acivated by default? how can i verify ? |
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| 01:52.48 | ctmjr | srged1: as root do fstrim -v /dev/whatever the ssd is |
| 01:54.23 | ctmjr | srged1: that should be fstrim -v / /dev/what evr the ssd is |
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| 01:56.31 | waressearcher2 | that button to be precise, what it activates ? |
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| 02:04.39 | srged1 | ctmjr: fstrim: /dev/sda1: not a directory |
| 02:05.51 | ctmjr | srged1: lose the one at the end of sda1 should be sda |
| 02:06.11 | seeker63 | I have loaded the nvidia legacy 96xx drivers -- i have loaded nvidia in the kernel -- I have ran nvidia-xconfig and added modes of 1024X768 to the created xorg.conf -- i have even added same sections to the 20-nvidia.conf which was created by researching nvidiagraphicdrivers page on debian -- i have tried adding a modeline |
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| 02:06.53 | srged1 | ctmjr: same error message |
| 02:07.33 | seeker63 | no matter what i do when i start x i still have only two resolutions 640X480 and a 300X??? where is the system pulling the resolution directives from |
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| 02:08.09 | ctmjr | srged1: sorry doing to many things at once the command you need is fstrim -v / |
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| 02:09.23 | srged1 | ctmjr: /: 31065550848 bytes were trimmed |
| 02:09.41 | srged1 | so TRIM seems activated and working |
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| 02:10.53 | marioxcc | Hello. I'm trying to install FluxBB which needs sqlite support. I have installed php5-sqlite, but FluxBB still doesn't detect it. I'm using Nginx and PHP-FPM. What should I do? |
| 02:11.06 | srged1 | ctmjr: thx! |
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| 02:11.43 | ctmjr | srged1: yes it is you can run that when you want or put it in a cron job to run once a day or weekly and forget about it |
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| 02:12.58 | srged1 | ctmjr: I thoguht its being done automatically |
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| 02:17.50 | ctmjr | srged1: no most people add the discard option to /etc/fstab to clean up their ssd's but i just like fstrim |
| 02:19.03 | srged1 | ctmjr: i see |
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| 02:22.54 | rj46 | hello, have you ever had this problem http://stackoverflow.com/questions/13408281/phpmyadmin-error-with-config-file |
| 02:23.22 | rj46 | I can't get this work, cache and cookies are removed |
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| 02:34.04 | Zerock | I have a Wheezy server, and mysqld keeps stopping, causing a web application of mine to crash and burn. |
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| 03:19.51 | pussygladiator | yo |
| 03:19.55 | pussygladiator | instead of adding the unstable repo |
| 03:20.03 | pussygladiator | how can I install emacs 24.4? |
| 03:20.09 | pussygladiator | its the only unstable package I plan to install |
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| 03:26.18 | pussygladiator | do i need to add the repo to sources? |
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| 03:31.17 | abrotman | dpkg: tell pussygladiator about ssb |
| 03:31.45 | sveinse | I am stuck: I am starting my daemon with start-stop-daemon, and it work. But doing start-stop-daemon --start --test always returns 'Would start /usr/bin/luminad' and I don't understand why. |
| 03:32.32 | sveinse | The daemon has a pid file, and its contents is correct |
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| 03:36.14 | pussygladiator | so |
| 03:36.16 | pussygladiator | if I add this |
| 03:36.25 | pussygladiator | it wont update my other pkgs to unstable? |
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| 03:38.18 | atomi | this is a good one: how do I append --ignore="*.myfiles" to all ls commands? |
| 03:39.43 | atomi | in other words all aliases that use ls |
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| 03:46.24 | hikenboot | hi recently i took one virtual debian machine with a large lvm volume and rsyc'ed to to another fresh debian install (after deleting everything in /) in order to shrink the volume. It worked but there were problems. I think this has to do with inadiquate switch use on the rsync command |
| 03:46.46 | hikenboot | question: what switches should one use when rsyncing / ? |
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| 03:49.09 | mynameisbrian | hey guys, I want my to setup my code editor to work with nginx, so I can transfer files via sftp. what is the most secure way of doing this? |
| 03:49.16 | mynameisbrian | -my |
| 03:49.52 | mynameisbrian | I thought of maybe creating a user or group and the code editor would login with this user, that would have permission to edit this directory |
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| 03:51.10 | atomi | nevermind just a simple alias |
| 03:51.12 | atomi | :/ |
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| 04:55.48 | Gus81 | hello, I find no answer on the chanel in Spanish. I would like to update debian wheezy to jessie. Have signed almost all repositories. But Debian Mozilla Team http://mozilla.debian.net/ suggests to me |
| 04:56.03 | Gus81 | deb http://cdn.debian.net/debian unstable main |
| 04:56.04 | Gus81 | deb http://cdn.debian.net/debian experimental main |
| 04:56.44 | Gus81 | I point to unstable and experimental? |
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| 04:58.02 | codedwar | @ hikenboot: I recently rsynced a filesystem to a fresh install with rsync -a --hard-links and used an exclude file to exclude some stuff and it worked fine. |
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| 04:59.43 | Gus81 | Sorry for my English, I speak Spanish. I use Google translator. |
| 05:00.01 | ctmjr | Gus81: it looks like you add both why i do not know |
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| 05:03.09 | crutchy | apt will prefer highest version in that case i guess |
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| 05:07.49 | hikenboot_ | codedwar, thanks. I had less success. and it required some rebuilding aftewards..last time...which I am hoping to avoid |
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| 06:28.11 | RayzrShrp | so when I installed wheezy using the netinst iso and I ran tasksel it had all the DE listed but I just left it at debian desktop environment. Now when I run taskel it doesn't list them all anymore. How do I get them back? |
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| 06:30.39 | RayzrShrp | is there a way to have it list all the choices again? |
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| 06:44.56 | RayzrShrp | ok then super helpful everyone thanks! |
| 06:46.45 | RayzrShrp | little odd nobody is talking on here |
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| 06:47.39 | RayzrShrp | hello? |
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| 06:59.18 | ungali | RayzrShrp, can't you just apt-get install them? |
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| 07:06.14 | RayzrShrp | ungali: i guess i could |
| 07:06.32 | RayzrShrp | ungali: but i forgot what all the options were |
| 07:06.45 | RayzrShrp | ungali: i know there was xfce4 and lxde and kde but dont remember all the rest |
| 07:06.49 | ungali | What DE do you want? |
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| 07:07.22 | ungali | https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/desktop_environment#List_of_desktop_environments |
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| 07:07.56 | RayzrShrp | im not running arch im running debian |
| 07:08.26 | ungali | It doesn't matter, archwiki is a good resource |
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| 07:10.33 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps anybody get snmpdd working on debian yet |
| 07:10.41 | Eryn_1983_FL | snmpd |
| 07:11.00 | Eryn_1983_FL | all i get from the config file is oid errors wiki is no help |
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| 07:11.29 | kriskrop1 | is there a way to check what packages i have installed are dependent on another package I want to purge? |
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| 07:13.24 | ungali | kriskropd, apt-cache rdepends $program |
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| 07:14.05 | ungali | kriskropd, apt-cache rdepends $program (for visibility) |
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| 07:16.09 | kriskropd | ah I see! and I added --installed option to limit to installed packages |
| 07:16.14 | kriskropd | tyvm ungali :) |
| 07:16.23 | Eryn_1983_FL | all it does it complain in tthe log files. it is so not right. |
| 07:16.43 | ungali | I didn't know about --installed, thanks for the info! |
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| 07:31.54 | osram | Eryn_1983_FL: just a stab, have you installed snmp as well? |
| 07:32.50 | osram | Eryn_1983_FL: or you might be needing snmp-mibs-downloader |
| 07:32.58 | Eryn_1983_FL | yeah both |
| 07:33.08 | Eryn_1983_FL | installed mibs and snmp mibs updated |
| 07:33.36 | osram | Ok, different issue then. I seem to remeber an upset snmpd because of missing mibs. |
| 07:33.49 | osram | Doesn't seem to be the case here. |
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| 07:41.22 | Eryn_1983_FL | i dunno at this point i dont ccare :( |
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| 08:09.04 | Guest21115 | i read the issue is libnss3, but when i try to backport that package, it says the one i have is up to date |
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| 09:00.13 | malinus | Hello. I've installed debian, with no DE, however linux won't even boot into the promt. I'm pretty sure the problem is my gtx 750ti, however I can't really do anything when I can't even boot into the OS! Booting windows works just fine. I can also boot into GRUB, however after choosing debian I see some of the start-booting messages and then a black screen. I'm almost certain that I need the nvidia drivers, however - how can I install them when I can |
| 09:00.54 | malinus | Any ideas/help would be greatly appriciated |
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| 09:02.24 | nkuttler | malinus: do you have another computer you can use to ssh in? |
| 09:03.17 | malinus | nkuttler: I didn't install ssh from the start, I guess I'll reinstall and do that. |
| 09:04.23 | nkuttler | malinus: or you can boot from a live cd, chroot into your install, and install it |
| 09:04.29 | nkuttler | or even fix the system |
| 09:05.27 | malinus | nkuttler: Like I've already said - linux won't boot. As in - the screen is black. I've tried 4 different distros of linux, including the debian live cd. |
| 09:06.03 | nkuttler | malinus: no, you get a black screen. that's not "not booting" |
| 09:06.03 | malinus | It's unusual especially because the gtx750ti isn't THAT new. |
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| 09:06.32 | malinus | nkuttler: I can't know, really. |
| 09:06.40 | nkuttler | anyway, to install the binary nvidia driver see |
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| 09:06.56 | nkuttler | !nvidia dkms |
| 09:06.56 | dpkg | For Debian 7 "Wheezy" and later systems. Ask me about <contrib> and <non-free sources>. «aptitude -r install linux-headers-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` nvidia-kernel-dkms && mkdir /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d ; echo -e 'Section "Device"\n\tIdentifier "My GPU"\n\tDriver "nvidia"\nEndSection' > /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/20-nvidia.conf». Restart your system to enable the <nouveau> blacklist. |
| 09:07.20 | malinus | nkuttler: installing the drivers is hard when you have no video output. |
| 09:07.26 | nkuttler | malinus: however, if you video doesn't work with multiple distros, it could be that the nvidia drivers *are* the problem. using a simple driver like vesa might be good |
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| 09:08.14 | nkuttler | malinus: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Remote |
| 09:09.47 | malinus | thanks |
| 09:11.22 | malinus | I'm guessing the video stops working, when the output mode switches |
| 09:11.48 | malinus | I wish there was a distro that didn't switch the video output mode by default. |
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| 09:32.52 | malinus | nkuttler: nope at this point debian actually won't even boot. So even though I've reinstalled, with ssh server, it doesn't help me much. It just gets stuck with a blinking "_" after choosing debian in grub. |
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| 09:43.23 | filenox | what happens if you press control alt delete |
| 09:43.26 | filenox | malinus: |
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| 09:54.15 | IndoDebian | hi |
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| 10:08.12 | malinus | filenox: is that some joke? |
| 10:08.54 | filenox | malinus: not really |
| 10:09.43 | deadbrain_ | Hi all, I have a big problem with Bumblebee on my Seemplice(debian unstable based) , my laptop is a Thinkpad W530 with Optimus technology...Can you help me please? |
| 10:10.36 | filenox | malinus: control alt backspace i meant, woops |
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| 10:29.15 | elvirolo | hi everyone |
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| 10:36.01 | HD|Laptop | hey, how do I find out which version of the ARM architecture a library file has been built for? |
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| 10:49.23 | relaxed | HD|Laptop: file libfoo |
| 10:50.30 | HD|Laptop | relaxed, that doesn't show the ARM arch version, but readelf -a -W seems to do the trick |
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| 10:53.44 | relaxed | good to know |
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| 10:57.36 | mousa | has anyone here using Google Chrome browser on Debian 7 faced this problem with the browser disabling the option "Bookmark all tabs" when trying to bookmark all the tabs of a window? |
| 10:58.17 | HD|Laptop | relaxed, but another thing I didn't find with google... is there any chance to find out from where a package got installed? |
| 10:58.48 | HD|Laptop | I mixed up raspbian (armv6) and debian (armv7) repos in my sources.list and now my system is cluttered with armv7 packages |
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| 10:59.06 | equex | on a scale from 1-10, how likely am i to mess up my install by upgrading my wheezy stable to testing ? it is not a 'clean' install. (saw a warning about that!) the existing install is not broken or special in any way, but has quite a few packages/libs installed. |
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| 11:00.25 | Epakai | HD|Laptop: once the repo is removed and you've run an update, don't the packages show up in the obsolete/local section of aptitude? |
| 11:02.02 | malinus | Hello. I have debian installed on my computer. It's a clean install with no DE. However the screen is black after booting debian. I have access to the machine with ssh. I'm certain this is due to the gtx 750ti graphic card. I've tried installing the non-free drivers, however the screen is still black after restart. |
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| 11:02.07 | malinus | any ideas? |
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| 11:04.40 | Arrowmaster | im getting state flags in aptitude that i cant find listed in the docs, W and T |
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| 11:16.30 | Gforce | Why a processes PID changes almost every second? |
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| 11:18.26 | valdyn | Gforce: it does not. Its a new process |
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| 11:19.01 | Gforce | So it gets killed and restart again? |
| 11:19.16 | valdyn | Gforce: yes, probably |
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| 11:19.59 | Gforce | There is no way it happen to the process itself valdyn?I mean no killing! |
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| 11:21.06 | valdyn | Gforce: this isnt 20 questions - tell us the real problem and we'll try to help you |
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| 11:21.56 | Gforce | I just remember there was a process that it's PID changed every second. |
| 11:22.04 | Gforce | I wanna know why! |
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| 11:23.57 | Gforce | valdyn:^ |
| 11:24.31 | valdyn | Gforce: this is not enough information to diagnose what happened |
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| 11:24.43 | Gforce | Ok.thanks. |
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| 11:28.54 | filenox | someone else had problems with Awesome and Chromium? |
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| 11:34.23 | quebre | hello |
| 11:34.45 | critias | anyone using django on Wheezy ? which versions of Python, Django, MySQL should I use ? |
| 11:34.56 | quebre | debian 7.0 installer asks me for keymap to use, whatever i chose, it's broken - instead of '-' i have '/' keys, etc. |
| 11:35.22 | quebre | what might be wrong ? |
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| 11:38.43 | quebre | debian is broken, lala |
| 11:38.58 | quebre | messing with keymap?! |
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| 11:40.46 | SynrG | quebre: by 7.0 surely you mean 7.7? |
| 11:41.00 | SynrG | or did you really use an ancient version? |
| 11:41.05 | quebre | yes 7.7 |
| 11:41.50 | SynrG | what keyboard layout do you need for your hardware? |
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| 11:44.57 | quebre | i have standard keyboard like http://proline.pl/pic/log-967738-0100_0.jpg ... ;p |
| 11:45.26 | SynrG | which installer image did you use? it should 'just work' |
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| 11:45.44 | quebre | yeah, it always just worked ;/ |
| 11:45.47 | quebre | the image is |
| 11:45.47 | quebre | sec |
| 11:46.18 | quebre | debian-7.7.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 11:46.41 | SynrG | obtained from www.debian.org? |
| 11:46.53 | quebre | yes |
| 11:47.14 | quebre | im installing via proxmox java console.. |
| 11:47.21 | quebre | maybe thats why ? |
| 11:47.59 | SynrG | probably. that's not a standard debian install |
| 11:48.09 | SynrG | see proxmox for help |
| 11:48.15 | quebre | ok |
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| 11:48.43 | KM0201 | is there a way to backport netflix support to Wheezy? |
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| 11:48.52 | KM0201 | google isn;t turning up much |
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| 11:50.36 | TyrfingMjolnir | I need to make the current running disk a bootable vm |
| 11:50.40 | TyrfingMjolnir | How do I do this? |
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| 11:50.49 | TyrfingMjolnir | Shut off all services and run dd? |
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| 12:02.47 | malinus | Hello. I've finally got my system somehow to work by ssh'ing into the machine, installing nvidia drivers and disabling nouveau. I can't however launch my DE, nor even X. I get errors like "no screen found(EE)" and "$display is not set or cannot connect to the X server.". It's still the gtx750 ti. Any ideas? |
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| 12:06.15 | AlexPortable | rad_recv: Access-Reject packet from host 127.0.0.1:1812, id=19, length=20 |
| 12:06.37 | AlexPortable | What am i doing wrong? |
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| 12:09.38 | TyrfingMjolnir | malinus: That stuff took ages for me to find out last time I tried |
| 12:09.43 | TyrfingMjolnir | Myst have been debian 2.0 |
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| 12:10.05 | elvirolo | Does anyone use transmission-daemon? |
| 12:10.27 | TyrfingMjolnir | elvirolo: What is that for? bittorent? |
| 12:10.45 | elvirolo | TyrfingMjolnir, Yes. |
| 12:10.56 | TyrfingMjolnir | What about it? |
| 12:11.21 | elvirolo | I can't set it up on testing. |
| 12:11.25 | TyrfingMjolnir | http://linux.die.net/man/1/transmission-daemon |
| 12:11.38 | TyrfingMjolnir | Any logs? |
| 12:11.43 | elvirolo | It seems it can't create the transmission user's home dir. |
| 12:11.52 | TyrfingMjolnir | It cannot? |
| 12:11.57 | TyrfingMjolnir | Or you cannot? |
| 12:11.58 | elvirolo | nov. 30 13:01:00 debian transmission-daemon[7290]: [2014-11-30 13:01:00.379 CET] Couldn't create "/home/debian-transmission": Permission denied (utils.c:424) |
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| 12:12.11 | TyrfingMjolnir | Oh |
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| 12:12.16 | elvirolo | after "systemctl start transmission-daemon" |
| 12:12.25 | TyrfingMjolnir | You are running transmission with wrong privs |
| 12:12.25 | elvirolo | (as root) |
| 12:12.32 | TyrfingMjolnir | Well |
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| 12:12.43 | malinus | TyrfingMjolnir: could yu please help again :)? |
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| 12:12.52 | TyrfingMjolnir | Then run mkdir /home/debian-transmission |
| 12:13.14 | matthiaskrgr | hi, is there an easy way for me to build debian packages locally for my own priavte use? |
| 12:13.15 | TyrfingMjolnir | malinus: I have not played with X since the name was X11 and the year was 1999 |
| 12:13.22 | elvirolo | TyrfingMjolnir, Ok, wasn't sure I was supposed to do that, thanks. |
| 12:13.26 | TyrfingMjolnir | I use mac for workstation and debian for server side |
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| 12:13.38 | matthiaskrgr | (I'm looking for something like arch linux makepkg system) |
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| 12:13.48 | malinus | TyrfingMjolnir: I'm pretty sure this is more a nvidia problem than X. But yeah |
| 12:14.12 | TyrfingMjolnir | malinus: This is probably just a config error in X11 if you installed the right drivers |
| 12:14.27 | quebre | SynrG: indeed that was proxmox releated, after finishing instalation and logging via ssh - the keymap is just fine |
| 12:14.40 | SynrGy | quebre: great |
| 12:14.42 | elvirolo | TyrfingMjolnir, It keeps complaining about not being able to create a directory |
| 12:14.45 | quebre | SynrGy: thanks. |
| 12:14.47 | SynrGy | np |
| 12:14.58 | TyrfingMjolnir | elvirolo: Did you try to make the directory? |
| 12:15.10 | TyrfingMjolnir | I would do mkdir /home/debian-transmission |
| 12:15.24 | elvirolo | TyrfingMjolnir, Yes, I did. |
| 12:15.24 | TyrfingMjolnir | Then chown nobody:nogroup /home/debian-transmission |
| 12:15.30 | elvirolo | ok |
| 12:15.38 | TyrfingMjolnir | chmod 777 /home/debian-transmission |
| 12:15.44 | TyrfingMjolnir | Then try again |
| 12:15.53 | TyrfingMjolnir | See which ownership the files inside receive |
| 12:16.31 | AlexPortable | anyone can help me out? |
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| 12:17.10 | TyrfingMjolnir | AlexPortable: Need some context |
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| 12:17.47 | AlexPortable | 13:06 <AlexPortable> rad_recv: Access-Reject packet from host 127.0.0.1:1812, id=19, length=20 |
| 12:17.47 | AlexPortable | 13:06 <AlexPortable> What am i doing wrong? |
| 12:17.49 | elvirolo | TyrfingMjolnir, seems to be working |
| 12:17.56 | rendar | i cannot find the libplatform package with apt-cache search...i need it to run libv8 stuff, any thoughts? |
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| 12:18.18 | TyrfingMjolnir | ls -lAh /home/debian-transmission |
| 12:18.32 | TyrfingMjolnir | What are the ownership and privs of the files? |
| 12:18.48 | elvirolo | TyrfingMjolnir, The files seem to be owned by debian-transmission |
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| 12:18.59 | TyrfingMjolnir | privs? |
| 12:19.04 | ju_les_ | hi all |
| 12:19.05 | elvirolo | -rw------- 1 debian-transmission debian-transmission 2216 nov. 30 13:16 settings.json |
| 12:19.31 | ju_les_ | how do i do a preseed minimal install, keep on installing desktop-base, ...? |
| 12:19.39 | TyrfingMjolnir | chown debian-transmission:debian-transmission /home/debian-transmission |
| 12:19.54 | TyrfingMjolnir | chmod -R 600 /home/debian-transmission |
| 12:20.17 | TyrfingMjolnir | then do ls -lAhR /home/debian-transmission |
| 12:20.24 | ju_les_ | even if taskel taskel/first multiselect is empty or set to none |
| 12:20.44 | SynrG | rendar: uh, what? libv8 has no depdendency on that in debian |
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| 12:21.30 | rendar | SynrG, hmm, look at this https://developers.google.com/v8/get_started |
| 12:21.42 | rendar | SynrG, look at that hello world sample |
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| 12:21.58 | elvirolo | TyrfingMjolnir, Thanks. Among other files : -rw------- 1 debian-transmission debian-transmission 2,2K nov. 30 13:16 settings.json |
| 12:22.36 | SynrG | rendar: don't care. look at the deps of libv8-dev. debian package doesn't depend on it |
| 12:22.42 | elvirolo | Now I get this when I launch the daemon: nov. 30 13:20:54 debian transmission-daemon[7372]: [2014-11-30 13:20:54.035 CET] transmission-daemon Error loading config file -- exiting. (daemon.c:519) |
| 12:22.58 | SynrG | ,v libv8-dev |
| 12:22.59 | judd | Package: libv8-dev on i386 -- squeeze: 2.2.24-6; wheezy: 3.8.9.20-2; wheezy-backports: 3.14.5.8-8~bpo70+1; jessie: 3.14.5.8-8; sid: 3.14.5.8-8 |
| 12:23.13 | TyrfingMjolnir | elvirolo: what does the config file look like? |
| 12:23.36 | rendar | SynrG, ok, i get that, indeed i've installed v8 without libplatform successfully, but how then that code needs libplatform to initialize v8?! |
| 12:23.37 | TyrfingMjolnir | You might have to chmod 770 /home/debian-transmission |
| 12:23.42 | TyrfingMjolnir | For the folder itself |
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| 12:23.58 | SynrG | rendar: ask them? |
| 12:24.11 | SynrG | rendar: read the docs in the debian package? |
| 12:24.21 | SynrG | one or the other :) |
| 12:25.21 | rendar | SynrG, i guess its a newer version of v8 maybe |
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| 12:25.56 | AlexPortable | TyrfingMjolnir: any clue? |
| 12:26.01 | elvirolo | TyrfingMjolnir, ls -l /home/debian-transmission/.config/transmission-daemon/settings.json |
| 12:26.01 | elvirolo | -rw------- 1 debian-transmission debian-transmission 2216 nov. 30 13:16 /home/debian-transmission/.config/transmission-daemon/settings.json |
| 12:26.39 | TyrfingMjolnir | elvirolo: I never saw that settings file |
| 12:26.43 | SynrG | or an older version of the "getting started"? |
| 12:26.48 | SynrG | rendar: ^^ |
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| 12:27.01 | TyrfingMjolnir | AlexPortable: I m not sure which app outputs your log |
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| 12:28.03 | TyrfingMjolnir | ... |
| 12:28.08 | TyrfingMjolnir | AlexPortable: https://www.mail-archive.com/freeradius-users@lists.freeradius.org/msg61232.html |
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| 12:28.19 | AlexPortable | TyrfingMjolnir: radtest test test 127.0.0.1 0 secret |
| 12:28.21 | TyrfingMjolnir | https://duckduckgo.com/?q=rad_recv&t=osx |
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| 12:28.55 | TyrfingMjolnir | is the user 0 ? |
| 12:29.18 | TyrfingMjolnir | user and pass are test? |
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| 12:29.26 | AlexPortable | yes |
| 12:29.33 | TyrfingMjolnir | https://duckduckgo.com/?q=radtest |
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| 12:30.13 | Zvpun | How can I exclude a user from gdm3's listing of users? |
| 12:30.18 | TyrfingMjolnir | elvirolo: is the app running now? |
| 12:30.58 | ju_les_ | anyone for preseed? |
| 12:31.14 | TyrfingMjolnir | Vote for me!!!! I can be president! |
| 12:31.37 | elvirolo | TyrfingMjolnir, No. It must have something to do with systemd configuration, but I don't know what it is. The thing is there are several location for the transmission daemon settings file, but I'm not sure which one I should be looking at. |
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| 12:32.13 | TyrfingMjolnir | elvirolo: lsof | grep transmission |
| 12:32.49 | SynrG | rendar: no, i think your guess is more likely. see https://code.google.com/p/v8/issues/detail?id=3654 which is a recent issue mentioning libplatform.h. from context it sounds new / still in flux. |
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| 12:34.16 | elvirolo | TyrfingMjolnir, |
| 12:34.19 | elvirolo | http://pastebin.com/naATuCJs |
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| 12:34.51 | TyrfingMjolnir | Are those the fuil length lines? |
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| 12:36.26 | elvirolo | TyrfingMjolnir, Yes. |
| 12:37.28 | TyrfingMjolnir | lsof | grep settings.json |
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| 12:38.00 | elvirolo | TyrfingMjolnir, No output. |
| 12:38.27 | TyrfingMjolnir | http://forum.xbian.org/thread-530.html |
| 12:39.19 | TyrfingMjolnir | ls -lAh /usr/local/etc/transmission/settings.json |
| 12:39.29 | TyrfingMjolnir | Is there such a file on your system? |
| 12:39.43 | TyrfingMjolnir | or you can do as root: find / -name settings.json |
| 12:40.24 | elvirolo | there's one in /etc/transmission-daemon |
| 12:40.41 | elvirolo | none in /usr/local/etc/transmission/settings.json |
| 12:40.58 | TyrfingMjolnir | That's the one I expect to be the real one /etc/ is where all the other config files reside |
| 12:41.45 | AlexPortable | E: Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11: Resource temporarily unavailable) |
| 12:41.45 | AlexPortable | E: Unable to lock directory /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 12:41.48 | Oros | Hello everybody. Did someone got news of Nexen ? ( https://nexen.mkdir.fr/ ). His site down since few weeks. |
| 12:41.56 | elvirolo | I've edited it as I do usually, but the daemon still doesn't start. |
| 12:42.13 | elvirolo | I'll try & purge the package, I think I messed things up. |
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| 12:43.51 | critias | what does the mu stand for in python3.2mu ? |
| 12:44.01 | critias | what does the mu stand for in python3.2mu ? |
| 12:44.14 | critias | oops |
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| 12:44.39 | SynrGy | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:44.47 | SynrGy | bluh. i blame the cat |
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| 12:47.18 | AlexPortable | solved the lock issue |
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| 12:48.45 | SynrG | critias: raspberrypi? |
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| 12:50.28 | SynrG | critias: i google for it and find http://raspberrypi.stackexchange.com/questions/2149/do-we-need-multiple-versions-of-python |
| 12:50.44 | SynrG | that contains your answer. |
| 12:51.11 | SynrG | hmm. seems debian wheezy does include the file. it's in python3.2-minimal |
| 12:51.18 | elvirolo | TyrfingMjolnir, Still the same problem. I really don't understand what's wrong. Thanks a lot for your help anyway! |
| 12:51.40 | TyrfingMjolnir | elvirolo: But it works with chmod 777 ? |
| 12:52.00 | TyrfingMjolnir | chmod 777 /home/debian-transmission/ |
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| 12:55.46 | elvirolo | TyrfingMjolnir, It does, but I don't understand why it shouldn't be able to do that by itself. |
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| 12:57.12 | TyrfingMjolnir | Because you are running as root |
| 12:57.19 | TyrfingMjolnir | install as root |
| 12:57.28 | TyrfingMjolnir | then su to transmission-debian |
| 12:57.32 | TyrfingMjolnir | Then run |
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| 13:04.40 | elvirolo | TyrfingMjolnir, but what if I want to launch it automatically at boot time? |
| 13:05.13 | TyrfingMjolnir | ls -lAh /etc/init.d/ |
| 13:05.24 | TyrfingMjolnir | Is there a start script for it? |
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| 13:07.23 | elvirolo | Yes, but it uses systemd |
| 13:07.35 | elvirolo | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:07.35 | elvirolo | [ ok ] Starting transmission-daemon (via systemctl): transmission-daemon.service. |
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| 13:11.00 | elvirolo | aah, got it: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=734467 |
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| 13:15.14 | Oros | Did someone got news of Nexen ? ( https://nexen.mkdir.fr/ ). His site down since few weeks. |
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| 13:15.26 | AlexPortable | any way I can let debian find all urls starting with 'hi' and copy them to another file all on 1 line? |
| 13:15.29 | AlexPortable | seperated by spaces |
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| 13:15.48 | oldany | HELLO) |
| 13:15.56 | oldany | this linux debian is crap, i TRY TO BOOT AND |
| 13:16.03 | oldany | "Cleaning up temporary files..." |
| 13:16.09 | oldany | and it takes forever, it hangs for hours |
| 13:16.17 | oo_miguel | Is it possible to tell mdadm to remount a raid read-only as soon as it is degraded, or is this not a good idea at all? |
| 13:16.29 | oldany | HANGS FOREVER |
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| 13:16.34 | oldany | windows never did such thing, i cant boot |
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| 13:17.47 | AlexPortable | oldany: this windows is crap, it has virusses. debian never did such thing, i cant boot on windows |
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| 13:18.12 | oldany | AlexPortable no windows dosent have viruses. i have windows xp unupdated and no AV i have 0 viruses |
| 13:18.13 | abrotman | AlexPortable: Find all URLs where? |
| 13:18.22 | oldany | installed my xp several years ago |
| 13:18.23 | AlexPortable | abrotman: in an .html file |
| 13:18.29 | abrotman | oldany: Do you need help with Debian? |
| 13:18.31 | oldany | i need to boot stupid debian, help |
| 13:18.34 | AlexPortable | oldany: no debian isn't crap. it boots |
| 13:18.37 | oldany | abrotman yes i need to BOOT DEBIAN |
| 13:18.39 | oldany | it hangs |
| 13:18.41 | abrotman | AlexPortable: stop fighting with people |
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| 13:18.50 | abrotman | oldany: Perhaps it's doing work, how long have you waited? |
| 13:18.56 | AlexPortable | abrotman: he's generalizing :P |
| 13:19.07 | oldany | abrotman when i boot debian, it hangs at "Cleaning up temporary files..." i see HDD light its doing somethin |
| 13:19.10 | oldany | but its doing for HOURS |
| 13:19.12 | abrotman | AlexPortable: Great |
| 13:19.20 | oldany | i no installed any temoorary files |
| 13:19.21 | abrotman | oldany: when was the last time you rebooted it? |
| 13:19.31 | oldany | abrotman several days ago |
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| 13:19.57 | abrotman | oldany: it sounds like it's doing a filesystem check to me |
| 13:20.05 | oldany | abrotman but its doing it for hours |
| 13:20.10 | oldany | windows never did something like that |
| 13:20.23 | oldany | i need to cancel filesystem check, how to |
| 13:20.28 | abrotman | oldany: Yes, you can get windows to do that actually |
| 13:20.30 | oldany | i dont want no stupid checking |
| 13:20.46 | oldany | abrotman "YOU CAN" thats the difference. on windows i can, but not forced to |
| 13:20.52 | abrotman | stop saying "stupid" |
| 13:21.31 | oldany | i have disk image of that debian after installed so i can recover it, but why? on windows i dont have to, it never breaks |
| 13:21.36 | oldany | i want to boot my debian |
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| 13:22.07 | oldany | i have windows xp 7+ years single installation, it always boots |
| 13:22.18 | oldany | this debian has few months yet its already broken |
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| 13:22.45 | oldany | now you see why you have <1% market share? |
| 13:22.50 | abrotman | Please also stop the silly comparisons. They're completely different OSes |
| 13:22.52 | oldany | i rather paid for something that works |
| 13:23.02 | oldany | abrotman thats not a reason to break without reason |
| 13:23.07 | elvirolo | oldany, Well do, then. |
| 13:23.07 | abrotman | it's not broken, it's doing work |
| 13:23.19 | oldany | abrotman its doing "work" for hours |
| 13:23.24 | oldany | gonna ruin my HDD |
| 13:23.28 | elvirolo | oldany, Just use Windows then, why bother with Debian? |
| 13:23.31 | r00t-err0r | oldany, u dont know to use debian, debian cant broke :) |
| 13:23.38 | AlexPortable | ^ |
| 13:23.42 | oldany | elvirolo because Whonix creators forced me to use it |
| 13:23.46 | oldany | they choosen this OS |
| 13:23.52 | oldany | was bad decision from them |
| 13:23.57 | abrotman | oldany: What is Whonix? |
| 13:24.09 | abrotman | Oh, so it's not Debian, it's Whonix? |
| 13:24.29 | r00t-err0r | KDE probably :D |
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| 13:24.31 | elvirolo | oldany, See with Whonix people, than. |
| 13:24.32 | oldany | abrotman its tor-enabled virtual machine, actually two of them. they both based on DEBIAN |
| 13:24.36 | abrotman | oldany: please go to #whonix, we don't support it |
| 13:24.40 | oldany | elvirolo its not whonix problem, its debian |
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| 13:24.51 | abrotman | oldany: and given how much of a jerk you've been, I doubt they'd want to help you either |
| 13:25.14 | r00t-err0r | abrotman, leave it ... |
| 13:25.18 | r00t-err0r | n00bz |
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| 13:25.20 | abrotman | oldany: We only support Debian here, not things based on Debian. If #whonix can't help you, try ##linux |
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| 13:27.59 | ju_les_ | i have a debian preseed file, try to make a core install. But taskel taskel/first multiselect set to empty or none don't seem to work, any idea? |
| 13:28.47 | r00t-err0r | oldany, 4 ur info i use debian for server and desktop machine. for server machine i have huge uptime and 99.99% machine and link uptime, and for desktop machine, using testing to help dev of debian kernel and OS t00 |
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| 13:29.25 | r00t-err0r | so like debian tester i can bring you really stable machine with security updates :) |
| 13:29.33 | r00t-err0r | and i dont belive in your abligaton |
| 13:30.01 | abrotman | r00t-err0r: That user quit |
| 13:30.15 | r00t-err0r | he will read that :) |
| 13:30.23 | r00t-err0r | or she |
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| 13:45.05 | TyrfingMjolnir | elvirolo: got running? |
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| 13:45.39 | elvirolo | TyrfingMjolnir, yup :) must find a way to import my torrents, but so far it's working :) |
| 13:45.52 | TyrfingMjolnir | ln -s /etc/init.d/transmission-daemon /etc/rc<<runlevel>>.d/S99Transmission |
| 13:45.57 | TyrfingMjolnir | Should do the trick |
| 13:46.10 | TyrfingMjolnir | runlevel = 2? |
| 13:46.31 | TyrfingMjolnir | ln -s /etc/init.d/transmission-daemon /etc/rc2.d/S99Transmission |
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| 13:46.45 | TyrfingMjolnir | Just type: runlevel in the command line to find out |
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| 13:48.07 | elvirolo | TyrfingMjolnir, I don't understand. Is sysvinit still used? |
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| 13:48.28 | TyrfingMjolnir | in debian 7 |
| 13:48.33 | TyrfingMjolnir | Should be |
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| 13:48.45 | TyrfingMjolnir | At least I use it all the time |
| 13:49.32 | elvirolo | TyrfingMjolnir, I'm on jessie/testing actually :) |
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| 13:50.19 | TyrfingMjolnir | I did not use that one yet, is that 8? |
| 13:51.31 | elvirolo | TyrfingMjolnir, Yes. |
| 13:51.40 | TyrfingMjolnir | OK |
| 13:51.49 | TyrfingMjolnir | I will probablty not move to 8 for 5 years or so |
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| 14:28.47 | chomwitt | how come in a debian system users have different locale from root? |
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| 14:32.06 | HD|Laptop | hey |
| 14:32.38 | HD|Laptop | assuming one has the standard debian repo in sources.list and another repo with loads of packages (3rd party repo) |
| 14:32.54 | HD|Laptop | how do I tell apt to only take package foobar out of the 3rd party repo and ignore all other packages in this repo? |
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| 15:05.09 | hikenboot_ | before I do this and screw it up I will ask one more time in a different way...I am going to rsync the / partition to a new install. I have to worry about files,symlinks,hardlinks,other links, file permissions, time stamps,special devices..what switches to i use that would take care of these and any other issues i might find with rsyncing / partition? Last time I did this it didnt quite work right |
| 15:05.37 | ompaul | hikenboot_: do that with dd or don't do it at all |
| 15:06.03 | ompaul | hikenboot_: the overhead of an install is so small as to make me wonder what you are at - your grub will not forgive you |
| 15:06.27 | ompaul | so back up your data - clean your disk and start in a way that is sustainable |
| 15:06.34 | hikenboot_ | can dd do it over ssh and can dd change the parition size? |
| 15:06.58 | hikenboot_ | I would be doing it from live cds |
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| 15:07.13 | ompaul | hikenboot_: as an install method this looks perverse - please explain what you have against a real install |
| 15:07.49 | OSVG | Maybe start from the beginning and tell us what's going on so we can understand ~why~ you're trying to do something so we have more insight into ~how~ you want it to be done? |
| 15:07.55 | hikenboot_ | I have a complex web server install which stuff is in /etc /opt /var/www and other places I cant even remember plus mysql apache |
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| 15:08.36 | hikenboot_ | just trying to change the size of the virtual windows file system in hyper-v to migrate to vmware |
| 15:08.38 | ompaul | hikenboot_: I do not predict that you will have a good time with that - and putting mysql and apache in strange places is going to buy you pain - may I suggest you work out what data you have |
| 15:09.03 | ompaul | hikenboot_: back it up, clean install and restore and give this a bit more thinking rather than making a random guess that kills your box |
| 15:09.30 | ompaul | it is perverse to have use of /opt on debian |
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| 15:09.38 | ompaul | without damn good reason and you haven't shown one yet |
| 15:09.46 | OSVG | So you're migrating from Hyper-V to VMWare? |
| 15:10.17 | hikenboot_ | yes and the hyper-v is 300GB not sure why someone made it that big have to shrink the "outer casing " down |
| 15:10.26 | OSVG | Ok, why? |
| 15:10.36 | OSVG | Just to fit in the VMWare's disk storage sizing? |
| 15:10.52 | ompaul | that needs proper testing |
| 15:10.54 | hikenboot_ | to make it worse its using lvm which is only supported by gparted beta live cd |
| 15:11.05 | ompaul | i.e. get your image off line |
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| 15:11.20 | ompaul | test all and any such things |
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| 15:11.23 | hikenboot_ | the lvm partition is only 75 gig of data so its way over alocated |
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| 15:11.45 | ompaul | hikenboot_: what I said - you need to test that migration because get it wrong and you will have 0G |
| 15:11.48 | hikenboot_ | actually 65 gig |
| 15:11.59 | knosys | Hello. Guys how to get gateway IP address when connected to the network using DHCP? |
| 15:12.00 | hikenboot_ | I hear ya |
| 15:12.03 | RoyK | OSVG: vmware is very flexible in terms of storage |
| 15:12.04 | OSVG | Ok, this is a much better suited question to VMware. What you're trying to do isn't even a bandaid for the issue you have. |
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| 15:12.28 | hikenboot_ | they actually suggested rsyncing it |
| 15:12.43 | knosys | I would like to use static configuration, but havent figured out the gateway IP |
| 15:12.51 | ompaul | hikenboot_: I'm telling you get the data off the box, rebuild and prepare a proper migration on a clean install |
| 15:12.52 | OSVG | Ask someone who's actually installed a linux box before then. |
| 15:12.57 | ompaul | you are supporting a hacked something |
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| 15:13.01 | hikenboot_ | no solution supports all the parameters involved |
| 15:13.19 | RoyK | ompaul: I guess you could use the p2v tool from vmware to migrate the hyper-v vm to vmware - should be easy |
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| 15:13.22 | OSVG | The solution is that you need to work with the virtual drive disk allocation, not with the LVM or anything else. |
| 15:13.23 | ompaul | hikenboot_: so get the data and build your new solution and do a proper migration like any IT department would od |
| 15:13.30 | hikenboot_ | ok ompaul thanks for the advise...but this isnt going to be pretty |
| 15:13.46 | ompaul | s/od/do |
| 15:14.00 | ompaul | wanders off before he gets dragged into the rabbit warren |
| 15:14.14 | hikenboot_ | thaks ompaul |
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| 15:14.17 | udd | Is it possible to use a kernel without modules? I want a Debian install without initramfs |
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| 15:15.06 | udd | I believe if I compile a new kernel with everything built in, and modules off I should be fine, but I think a remember debian having its own issues doing that. |
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| 15:15.25 | RoyK | udd: yes, if you recompile the kernel with all the modules you need for bootup statically linked |
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| 15:19.26 | petemc | knosys: the dhcp server should provide gateway address, you can check with netstat -rn |
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| 15:20.40 | knosys | i found the device with arp |
| 15:20.51 | knosys | thanks a lot you too petemc |
| 15:21.13 | petemc | didnt do much, but np! |
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| 15:22.59 | udd | Is the /best/ way to do this by hacking the modules in myself via the Make and source files? |
| 15:23.33 | udd | I assume to get a list of modules from "lsmod" and the ones being used are the ones I want for my HW |
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| 15:25.32 | udd | I might also be way offf. |
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| 15:36.06 | Skyrider | What exactly is a openVZ debian minimal template? |
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| 15:38.27 | swordsmanz | Skyrider its an image of a debian minimal install that you can use to launch a debian vps or use as a basis for a debain Vcluster |
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| 15:39.00 | honestly | is there a different channel for debian on arm? |
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| 15:39.58 | swordsmanz | honestly /list |
| 15:40.04 | ansgar | honestly: There's a #debian-arm channel of OFTC. |
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| 15:40.38 | Skyrider | swordsmanz: I figured as much.. but I'd like to know what defines minimal. |
| 15:40.49 | Skyrider | What is in the package, and what isn't. |
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| 15:41.30 | swordsmanz | Skyrider on the minimal you basicaly get kernal + apt plus bas and the gnu tool chain and that kinda thing |
| 15:42.00 | Skyrider | Alrighty.. wise to install minimal? |
| 15:42.04 | swordsmanz | larger packages like apache and php and stuff are left out |
| 15:42.18 | Skyrider | That's good... |
| 15:42.24 | swordsmanz | well |
| 15:42.24 | Skyrider | Prefer installing nginx/sql server, etc myself. |
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| 15:42.42 | swordsmanz | do you know what pakages you need to build a useable system for what you want ? |
| 15:42.57 | Skyrider | by head, ya. |
| 15:43.17 | swordsmanz | and you know how to configure them ? |
| 15:43.30 | swordsmanz | if so debian minimal is for you |
| 15:43.56 | Skyrider | In regards of webmin, nginx, php5-fpm, mysql client/server, ya. |
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| 15:44.10 | Skyrider | Awesome |
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| 15:44.25 | RoyK | webmin? |
| 15:44.27 | Skyrider | I thought the full package also left out apache, etc? |
| 15:44.33 | RoyK | !webmin |
| 15:44.33 | dpkg | Webmin is a lame web-based interface for unsafe system administration for Unix. Check it out at http://webmin.com/ Remember, dondelelcaro *hates* webmin. "i'd rather sit on the floor shoving table knives into live electrical outlets than run webmin on an exposed server." Removed from Debian post-Sarge, see http://bugs.debian.org/343897 . The Debian package from webmin.com is of poor quality. See <free whcp> for alternatives. |
| 15:44.43 | Skyrider | lol, lame. |
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| 15:45.09 | Skyrider | mmehh, it works.. I'm happy with that. |
| 15:45.31 | RoyK | Skyrider: use the commandline! |
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| 15:46.01 | bo | lmao |
| 15:46.18 | Skyrider | There are a few things I prefer doing through a gui. |
| 15:46.26 | RoyK | such as? |
| 15:46.26 | Skyrider | Quicker/easier. |
| 15:46.42 | Skyrider | adding / altering users,groups. passwords, home directory, etc. |
| 15:47.00 | RoyK | Skyrider: it's far quicker to do that on the commandline |
| 15:47.02 | swordsmanz | Skyrider also if its a vps |
| 15:47.16 | RoyK | Skyrider: and using a crappy webgui won't teach you anything |
| 15:47.31 | swordsmanz | dont be suprised if you have to edit some configs to set an outgoing mailserver and set hostname and stuff |
| 15:47.55 | Skyrider | Why should it teach me? :p, there are some things I prefer doing the easy click-way. |
| 15:48.08 | bo | eek |
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| 15:48.25 | RoyK | Skyrider: right. why would anyone want to learn anything? learning is rubbish! |
| 15:48.30 | swordsmanz | nothing wrong with gui management |
| 15:48.36 | zebra5000 | keepin' it real! |
| 15:48.38 | bo | unless its webmin |
| 15:48.41 | bo | :X |
| 15:48.45 | Skyrider | lol |
| 15:48.52 | Skyrider | Webmin is the only that I came across while searching for one.. |
| 15:48.57 | Skyrider | If there's a good replacement for it, I'm for it. |
| 15:48.59 | swordsmanz | the problem with web panals is they bring over the insecuritys of the apache/php stack |
| 15:49.27 | swordsmanz | thinks we sould have some server/client system for doing that kinda mantinance |
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| 15:50.47 | RoyK | Skyrider: I know - it saves you a lot of time to walk through the user adding with webmin instead of typing "useradd -m newuser" on the commandline |
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| 15:52.48 | swordsmanz | RoyK what is intuetive for you might not always be intuitive for others |
| 15:53.25 | RoyK | swordsmanz: just trying to say that if you're administering a linux box, you'd better learn how to do it well |
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| 15:54.10 | RoyK | swordsmanz: I'm working with a guy that hadn't touched linux until he started less than a year ago, and now he's doing just fine on the commandline. He's close to 40. Old dogs can learn |
| 15:55.40 | Skyrider | teh. |
| 15:55.48 | Skyrider | Everyone does it differently. |
| 15:55.51 | swordsmanz | RoyK im just saying that there is nothing wrong with graphical management other than the fact that what we have now is significently less secure, its not like onw is conseptualy limited by wther management style , or at least should now be |
| 15:55.56 | Skyrider | If I prefer GUI, so be it :) |
| 15:56.16 | swordsmanz | not * |
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| 15:56.49 | pablo | hello guys |
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| 15:57.23 | fireant | hi pablo |
| 15:57.24 | pablo | I am getting this package status after an upgrade: iW cups-filters 1.0.61-4 |
| 15:57.25 | Skyrider | hi |
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| 15:58.08 | pablo | it looks it is waiting for some trigger |
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| 15:58.30 | pablo | does anybody knows how ti fix that or should I report it |
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| 16:02.21 | RoyK | Skyrider: just trying to say that managing linux is based on commands, and using a webui, especially something as crappy as webmin, will move you away from understanding what you do. Please just learn the commandline. It's far safer and far better and it doesn't take too long learning it. |
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| 16:05.08 | banjo | pablo: ive never seen a W. and doesnt find a W in doc |
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| 16:07.39 | fireant | pablo: try dpkg-reconfigure cups-filters |
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| 16:12.55 | work_alkisg | Hi, does debian/copyright refer to the packaging or to the upstream copyright? |
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| 16:14.01 | alkisg | E.g. suppose src/ is proprietary, and I make a debian/ folder with postinst scripts etc that are GPL, what would debian/copyright contain there? |
| 16:14.24 | Wraith- | What directory delete files on each boot? |
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| 16:15.24 | __tadek | Hi, is there a chance for compiz & emerald in jessie? |
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| 16:33.27 | pablo | fireant: /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure: cups-filters is broken or not fully installed |
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| 16:34.18 | knosys | Guys ,using I9000 as router for debian, I can access the network properly, allowed to ping my phone from debian computer. But cant ping anything outside my network. there are nameservers set, and network.configuration in pc is static. any advice? |
| 16:34.31 | LanDi | hey guys, I'm running "bananian" on my banana pi.... how can I set sshd to start at boot ? |
| 16:36.32 | banjo | pablo: apt-get install cups-filters |
| 16:37.16 | banjo | if not fully installed. it should fix it. if broken dont know |
| 16:37.26 | pablo | banjo: cups-filters is already the newest version. |
| 16:38.50 | banjo | yes but mayve apt doesnt finisht the installation for some reason |
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| 16:39.58 | banjo | sorry apt-get --reinstall install cups-filters |
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| 16:41.01 | banjo | what tells you: apt-get -s -f install |
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| 16:45.19 | pablo | banjo: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
| 16:46.14 | banjo | so dependencied should be fine. now whats the status after reinstall? |
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| 16:48.03 | josh_L | Is it not normal to use the graphical installer on a laptop? I'm getting issues configuring the network: "Network autoconfiguration failed - Your network is probably not using the DHCP protocol. Alternatively, the DHCP server may be slow or some network hardware is not working properly." |
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| 16:49.13 | banjo | josh_L: trying over wifi or ethernet? |
| 16:49.19 | josh_L | Wifi |
| 16:49.45 | banjo | plug in cable and try again. maybe you need firmware from non-free repo |
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| 16:50.37 | Bluesat | hi all |
| 16:50.50 | josh_L | Ah yes it did mention that.. in a previous step. Is there no installation image that comes with necessary proprietary firmware? |
| 16:51.26 | banjo | somewhere there is an non-official |
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| 16:54.56 | banjo | josh_L: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch02s02.html.en |
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| 17:00.30 | josh_L | Thanks to whoever sent me that link, sorry I lost connection :) |
| 17:00.59 | agd | josh_L; many of us will lose connections |
| 17:01.08 | agd | josh_L; but we'll never lose the connections with the people of #debian! |
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| 17:07.15 | banjo | agd: without net connection i lose it too. dont have your phone number:) |
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| 17:24.41 | uuro | Is there a possibility of optimizing this further? http://pastie.org/9752282 |
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| 17:26.11 | uuro | If I enable key setup in initramfs can I disable keyboard-setup? |
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| 17:26.37 | uuro | As well why does systemd-fsck run EVERY boot? I could see every couple of boots, or whatever but every boot? |
| 17:26.50 | uuro | Is that an ext4 thing? |
| 17:27.35 | Zerock | Why do I not have permission to open sockets to ping something? |
| 17:27.44 | Zerock | This is a new thing. Always worked fine... |
| 17:27.51 | Zerock | Let me reboot I guess. |
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| 17:29.08 | Zerock | Okay. Even after reboot, I cannot ping. |
| 17:29.42 | break19 | uuro: same reasons fsck runs on every boot on systems that don't use systemd, because fsck verifies that the filesystem was unmounted properly, and if it has been,. then that's all that happens.. |
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| 17:31.01 | uuro | Is there a possibility of optimizing this further? |
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| 17:33.05 | plotino | hello |
| 17:33.23 | plotino | im experiencing a bad problem in xfce, debian wheezy |
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| 17:33.38 | plotino | the icons are diappeared from desktop |
| 17:33.49 | plotino | also after reboot, the same |
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| 17:48.11 | anonnumberanon | Hello I'm in Xfce Terminal Emulator (Terminal 0.4.8) and I would like to change the color of the user directory prompt to something different than the rest, is there a way to do that? |
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| 17:53.38 | ktechmidas | I've got an odd issue, I've set a cronjob to run 2 hours later (18:00 rather than 16:00) - it's saved but still doing it at the old time |
| 17:53.41 | ktechmidas | http://paste.debian.net/134318/ |
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| 17:54.47 | ktechmidas | nothing on any other accounts in cron either |
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| 17:56.05 | anonnumberanon | got it:http://bashrcgenerator.com/ |
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| 18:06.09 | plotino | hello |
| 18:06.22 | plotino | help me in fixinf problem in xfce |
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| 18:06.46 | plotino | no more desktop icons visible. it seems xfce desktop not properly working |
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| 18:13.45 | sterns | I'm trying to get a gps device working. This is device: https://pci-ids.ucw.cz/read/PC/413c/8133 anyone have experience with this? |
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| 18:20.40 | bigterd | using loopback how can i make a device using xxx amount of ram, to play with mdadm? |
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| 18:21.07 | bigterd | id like to quickly make several 1gb devices using ram. box has 64gb |
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| 18:30.47 | dontknow | is debian packages compiled on remote environment or maintainers compiles them in their machine? |
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| 18:32.58 | RoyK | dontknow: does it matter? |
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| 18:33.11 | dontknow | RoyK, i am wondering |
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| 18:34.38 | jhutchins | !ramdisk |
| 18:34.38 | dpkg | it has been said that ramdisk is a method of using a portion of your ram as if it were another hard drive partition. See http://www.vanemery.com/Linux/Ramdisk/ramdisk.html |
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| 18:36.09 | RoyK | !tmpdisk |
| 18:36.17 | RoyK | !tmpfs |
| 18:36.18 | dpkg | tmpfs is a file system which keeps all files in virtual memory; you can change its default size by editing /etc/default/tmpfs. Temporary filesystems can be mounted with a line such as "tmpfs /tmp tmpfs defaults 0 0" in /etc/fstab. http://kernel.org/doc/Documentation/filesystems/tmpfs.txt |
| 18:36.25 | RoyK | jhutchins: better use that |
| 18:36.38 | bigterd | RoyK: i guess if mdadm will use files instead of devices. |
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| 18:36.41 | bigterd | guess i'll give that a shot. |
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| 18:36.51 | dontknow | so no one actually knows the answer of my question |
| 18:37.14 | RoyK | bigterd: use a vm |
| 18:38.07 | bigterd | vitural machien? |
| 18:38.26 | RoyK | mhm |
| 18:38.35 | bigterd | how can i do that over ssh easily? |
| 18:38.39 | RoyK | I have a VM with some 10 1GB drives for testing |
| 18:38.54 | jhutchins | !tell dontknow about nmg |
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| 18:39.28 | RoyK | bigterd: virtual drives... |
| 18:39.48 | RoyK | bigterd: install kvm/libvirt/virt-manager and do some testing |
| 18:41.02 | bigterd | seems like a lot of headache. this might be easier just to loop a device from system ram, sintead of installing packages, and who knows what else, that probably needs a gui/x instead of ssh management |
| 18:41.25 | bigterd | the box i'm working on, 8 core and 64gb, has no x interface! it's strictly ssh! |
| 18:41.39 | RoyK | bigterd: then setup a VM |
| 18:41.44 | RoyK | it's not much hassle |
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| 18:41.55 | RoyK | and you get total isolation |
| 18:41.55 | bigterd | vituralbox and vmware need gui? |
| 18:42.04 | RoyK | kvm doesn't |
| 18:42.15 | bigterd | i'd rather not emulate anything, i don't think there's a need. |
| 18:42.27 | RoyK | omg |
| 18:42.38 | RoyK | using VMs for testing is in the 101 these days |
| 18:42.47 | bigterd | i suppose |
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| 18:43.09 | bigterd | using a mouse is 101 too these days. |
| 18:43.58 | RoyK | bigterd: just setup a vm, give it a handful of virtual drives, 1-4GB each |
| 18:44.02 | RoyK | and do your testing |
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| 18:46.01 | Vladimiri | hello |
| 18:46.04 | pfred1 | hi |
| 18:46.26 | Vladimiri | Is it possible to install debian on a usb drive? not just a live usb but hard install it? |
| 18:46.42 | bigterd | RoyK: found my answer. mknod |
| 18:46.46 | bigterd | wayyyy simpler. |
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| 18:47.47 | RoyK | bigterd: not as clean, though |
| 18:48.02 | mtn | Vladimiri: yes it is |
| 18:48.02 | bigterd | define clean? |
| 18:48.24 | bigterd | Vladimiri: yes it is, but i run into odd issues after a few days of uptime. |
| 18:48.32 | Vladimiri | oh okey |
| 18:48.34 | Vladimiri | hmm |
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| 18:48.56 | bigterd | kernel kept complaining of no free space, yet inodes and file system seems plenty of free space/nodes |
| 18:48.57 | Vladimiri | how Would I install it, just like usual? Select the USB drive installation device? |
| 18:49.09 | bigterd | Vladimiri: yes, partition and install, normal |
| 18:49.15 | Vladimiri | okey cool |
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| 18:53.14 | jhutchins | Vladimiri: It will be very slow if you just do a normal installation. There are places like http://www.pendrivelinux.com/ that can help you install an image optimised for USB. |
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| 18:53.45 | Vladimiri | jhutchins: cool, thanks |
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| 18:54.16 | qman | most of those tools are going to be aimed at liveUSB |
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| 18:54.46 | qman | you can directly install, it will be slow, but will work; I recommend also setting up tmpfs for /tmp, /var/tmp, and /var/cache |
| 18:56.15 | qman | it will greatly improve performance of the system overall and reduce wear on your flash drive |
| 18:58.42 | jhutchins | Vladimiri: You're probably looking for something they would refer to as persistent, so changes you make while running are preserved from session to sesison as opposed to the more traditional live image which resets each time you boot. |
| 18:59.21 | Vladimiri | okey |
| 18:59.21 | Vladimiri | =) |
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| 19:07.21 | knosys | Hello. Finally done, the only way i get it through was dhcp :P usb tethering is hard!! |
| 19:07.37 | knosys | but worth it in my case, as the only way to have WAN on my computer |
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| 19:36.13 | HappyNewYear13 | do people still use non-wireless mouse these days? i mean when you go wireless... |
| 19:36.37 | Shadow_7 | depends on what's laying around |
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| 19:36.51 | Shadow_7 | or how anti-battery you are |
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| 19:37.20 | Shadow_7 | although most of my wired mice are trackballs |
| 19:37.43 | trampel | eh, what's wrong with a little wire (versus batteries and, who knows, security paranoia)? |
| 19:38.03 | Shadow_7 | or cancer paranoia |
| 19:38.29 | HappyNewYear13 | trackballs. not that's a scry device. who the hell uses a trackball? |
| 19:38.35 | HappyNewYear13 | scary |
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| 19:38.50 | HappyNewYear13 | this keyboard......... |
| 19:38.52 | Shadow_7 | mice are not so good when using them in bed |
| 19:39.15 | spatials | killed the rodent a long time ago |
| 19:39.16 | HappyNewYear13 | naughty |
| 19:39.20 | Shadow_7 | and most trackpads suck |
| 19:39.27 | Shadow_7 | at least the newer ones |
| 19:39.44 | HappyNewYear13 | my dell laptop trackpad was so smooth |
| 19:39.53 | trampel | HP keyboard nipple mouse for-the-win |
| 19:40.09 | Shadow_7 | got an hp stream 11... trackpad wont even click if I use iceweasel |
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| 19:52.54 | HappyNewYear13 | who likes yoghurt? |
| 19:53.00 | Skyrider | think I'll switch back to debian.. |
| 19:53.09 | Skyrider | Just installed ubuntu to check it out.. memory usage is twice as much now.. |
| 19:53.35 | HappyNewYear13 | how much memory you have in your pc? Skyrider |
| 19:53.48 | Skyrider | 2gb, vps. not my pc. |
| 19:53.58 | Skyrider | memory usage was about 230mb on debian.. |
| 19:54.01 | Skyrider | above 400 on ubuntu. |
| 19:54.06 | Skyrider | using the same packages. |
| 19:54.19 | HappyNewYear13 | ubuntu went crazy starting from 12.10 |
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| 19:54.41 | HappyNewYear13 | 2gb is good, 2.5 better for ubuntu 12.10 and up |
| 19:55.14 | Skyrider | Guess I'll switch back to debian. |
| 19:55.27 | HappyNewYear13 | how long you have been using debian? |
| 19:56.13 | HappyNewYear13 | i stil think ubuntu i fast |
| 19:56.19 | HappyNewYear13 | is |
| 19:56.25 | HappyNewYear13 | this keyboard is killing me |
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| 19:57.09 | HappyNewYear13 | i stroke my keys too soflty |
| 19:57.24 | HappyNewYear13 | i think that's the problem. i am soft all around. |
| 19:57.30 | ctmjr | HappyNewYear13: please keep your idle chat in debian-offtopic |
| 19:57.52 | HappyNewYear13 | ctmjr, i am talking with Skyrider about debian and ubuntu |
| 19:58.41 | HappyNewYear13 | ctmjr, what OS do you mainly use? |
| 19:58.52 | ctmjr | and how is that related to debian support |
| 19:59.16 | HappyNewYear13 | just curious because i see you on ubuntu too |
| 20:01.14 | equex | i have an app failing to load libFLAC.so.8, the file is not on the system apparently, and i have libflac8 installed. (wheezy) what should i do? |
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| 20:29.50 | olofski | ls -lh always shows a directory with 4.0K. whats the proper way to get the real amount of the folder? |
| 20:30.33 | pfred1 | du |
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| 20:31.15 | pfred1 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 20:32.00 | pfred1 | you probably want to use du -h or -m or something |
| 20:32.01 | olofski | the return value is kb? |
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| 20:32.11 | pfred1 | bytes i believe is the default |
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| 20:32.18 | olofski | thank you very much |
| 20:32.43 | pfred1 | sure np |
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| 20:38.41 | r4co0n | Hello. I am running Icedove 31.2.0 on jessie, trying to add http://www.hrw.org/en/rss/news as RSS feed, Icedove tells me, it's no valid feed and provides a link to check with w3c. However, validation there succeeds... What to do? |
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| 20:41.55 | knosys_ | r4co0n: i have wheezy, let me check it out |
| 20:42.43 | knosys_ | nvm, my icedove version its 28 |
| 20:42.48 | knosys_ | test doesnt worth |
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| 20:43.39 | r4co0n | knosys, thanks for trying |
| 20:44.15 | knosys | I didnt , but having different version of the client doesn't worth to doing , sorry man |
| 20:44.40 | r4co0n | knosys, that's what I meant, thanks for trying to try, at least |
| 20:45.08 | dizzylizzy | hmm |
| 20:45.43 | knosys | hehe no problem, im doing it anyway to check |
| 20:45.54 | dizzylizzy | i wonder how useful it would be to make bash aliases for things like â and â, like `alias â='some-connect command -or something'` or like, running a script |
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| 20:46.05 | dizzylizzy | s'kinda cool i guess |
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| 20:48.22 | knosys | yep, mine works r4co0n |
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| 20:49.50 | mtn | r4co0n: I got the same error as you did with my jessie version of icedove |
| 20:50.44 | r4co0n | knosys, mtn, just tried with a clean new profile, no change |
| 20:51.03 | r4co0n | mtn, thanks for confirming |
| 20:51.13 | mtn | r4co0n: :) |
| 20:51.53 | r4co0n | running icedove from terminal, it throws "missing mandatory element <title> and <description>, or <link>" |
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| 20:52.27 | r4co0n | however, w3c's validator doesn't seem to consider this mandatory |
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| 20:57.45 | r4co0n | knosys, are you running Icedove 31.2.0 (31.2.0-1~deb7u1)? I am telling the guys at thunderbird@mozilla about this, it seems to be a regression... |
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| 20:58.11 | knosys | no, 24.8.1 |
| 20:58.34 | knosys | I cant upgrade now, im through 3g internet with very limited download cap |
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| 20:59.04 | r4co0n | knosys, thanks for the info |
| 20:59.14 | knosys | If I download too much, my "highspeed" connection will be over and I would have to use slower Edge |
| 20:59.15 | knosys | no problem |
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| 21:00.41 | knosys | Ok guys good night everyone |
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| 21:00.50 | SynrG | r4co0n: the validator says it's technically valid but has problems. |
| 21:01.16 | Lope | I need to setup NUT (Network UPS tools) for my unknown UPS (Proline) with a serial cable. I've got it connected and NUT installed. Now I have no idea how to proceed. I've looked at various docs but it's all looks very complicated and I have no idea where to start. I'd like to just dump whatever is coming out of the serial cable as a start? or what do you recommend? I didn't see anything about a program that tries to auto-detect what pr |
| 21:01.16 | Lope | otocol the UPS uses? |
| 21:01.22 | SynrG | r4co0n: "This feed is valid, but interoperability with the widest range of feed readers could be improved by implementing the following recommendations." |
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| 21:01.43 | r4co0n | SynrG, that seemed good enough for me? Shouldn't thunderbird be able to cope with that? |
| 21:02.16 | r4co0n | I can mail the guys at hrw.org to fix this as well, i suppose... |
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| 21:02.43 | SynrG | doesn't that message imply it could potentially not be interoperable with *some* feed readers? |
| 21:02.49 | SynrG | that's how i read it |
| 21:03.07 | SynrG | just because it's standards compliant doesn't mean it's well formed |
| 21:03.11 | r4co0n | i thought the guys at mozilla are all in for interoperability and stuff and not "some" reader |
| 21:03.32 | SynrG | icedove may insist on some non-mandatory elements being set (e.g. title) because they have a requirement that feeds *must* have titles |
| 21:03.46 | SynrG | because to not have one would be stupid |
| 21:03.50 | SynrG | even if the standard allows it |
| 21:04.06 | r4co0n | SynrG, to not follow the standard seems stupid to me |
| 21:04.17 | SynrG | or to put it conversely, just because a standard allows a thing doesn't make it smart to do it |
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| 21:04.42 | SynrG | if you've ever had the misfortune to use the MARC standard, you'll know right away what i mean |
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| 21:05.02 | SynrG | there are hundreds, no, thousands of ways to do stupid things with that standard |
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| 21:05.23 | r4co0n | SynrG, i don't know MARC, but I think I fairly well understand what you mean |
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| 21:05.29 | SynrG | not that it's a bad standard. it's just ... cataloguing library records is complex. |
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| 21:06.09 | r4co0n | Maybe the best way to tackle this issue is to raise awareness of this issue with the guys at hrw.org |
| 21:06.15 | Quantum` | I'm writing a script which will send an email to the local mail daemon in some circumstances. But I find that the mail command (bsd-mailx) doesn't work anymore. How to compose an email in a script? |
| 21:06.19 | SynrG | so, when the design of the software is at odds with the standards, sometimes designers will have to make some reasonable compromise. |
| 21:08.28 | jhutchins | Quantum`: There may just have been a change in the syntax, I still use it and it works fine for me. |
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| 21:09.57 | Quantum` | jhutchins: mail -s "Rsync backup of Hex /home succeeded with code $RetVal" bill |
| 21:09.57 | Quantum` | ... doesn't send an email anymore. Can you see any flaws? |
| 21:10.00 | SynrG | r4co0n: yes. ask yourself "is it reasonable for the channel to not have a title or description?" if the answer is "no", then contacting hrw.org is appropriate :) |
| 21:10.21 | SynrG | if the answer is "yes", ask mozilla why they don't allow this reasonable thing ;) |
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| 21:10.53 | jhutchins | Quantum`: What does the mail log say? |
| 21:11.02 | jhutchins | Quantum`: Does the command return anything? |
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| 21:11.42 | jhutchins | Quantum`: You're missing the body. |
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| 21:12.14 | jhutchins | Quantum`: If you run that at the command line it will go into ineractive mode and wait for the body. |
| 21:13.44 | Quantum` | jhutchins: Only thing in the mail logs is failure to connect to spamd |
| 21:14.05 | Quantum` | Running that from a script. Not sure how to insert a body from a script. |
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| 21:14.45 | Quantum` | I tried on command-line, entered the body and ^D, but the email still didn't end up in /var/mail/bill. |
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| 21:16.43 | tommyF | sounds like easiest way for you to get 'body' is with 'read' |
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| 21:18.59 | jhutchins | Quantum`: Try bill@localhost |
| 21:19.32 | jhutchins | I think there is a compile time option, or possibly something in mailrc that will allow a bodieless message. |
| 21:19.34 | r4co0n | SynrG, i just wrote the folks at hrw.org . Thanks for your advice. |
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| 21:19.55 | SynrG | np. good luck |
| 21:20.01 | Quantum` | jhutchins: Still not sending it. Used to... |
| 21:20.44 | Quantum` | Even when I enter the body manually on the command-line. |
| 21:21.09 | jhutchins | Quantum`: Then something's not set up right. |
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| 21:21.18 | jhutchins | Quantum`: Have you tried a manual sendmail session? |
| 21:21.59 | Quantum` | jhutchins: There are at least a thousand options to plow through for sendmail. |
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| 21:24.52 | jhutchins | Quantum`: Try a telnet session test. |
| 21:25.10 | Quantum` | mutt thought it sent it too, but it didn't end up in /var/mail/bill. |
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| 21:25.41 | Quantum` | telnet: could not resolve 127.0.0.1:25/telnet: Name or service not known |
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| 21:26.15 | Quantum` | exim4 is listening on 25. (lsof -i -n -P) |
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| 21:27.04 | jhutchins | Quantum`: Syntax error, |
| 21:27.05 | Quantum` | Oh, pardon: 220 hex.darkmatter.org ESMTP Exim 4.84 Sun, 30 Nov 2014 13:26:26 -0800 |
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| 21:29.14 | jhutchins | Quantum`: Your telnet syntax is wrong. |
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| 21:30.01 | Quantum` | Understand. I got it right and: 220 hex.darkmatter.org ESMTP Exim 4.84 Sun, 30 Nov 2014 13:26:26 -0800 |
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| 21:31.06 | Quantum` | mutt thinks it sends, but it doesn't end up in /var/mail/bill. |
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| 21:31.30 | jhutchins | Quantum`: You need to complete the smtp session. |
| 21:31.35 | iio7 | I need help trouble shooting sound. I have the following data http://pastebin.com/rfLS1Kkf, but no sound when playing anything. |
| 21:31.42 | jhutchins | Quantum`: ehlo, mailto, from, etc. |
| 21:31.57 | iio7 | Does it even load the right driver? snd_hda_intel doesn't seem to have anything to do with nvidia. |
| 21:32.07 | Quantum` | jhutchins: It's clear I'm doing that with mutt. (y) |
| 21:32.45 | Lope | if anyone here familiar with getting NUT talking to a UPS? |
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| 21:33.01 | jhutchins | Quantum`: No, because you're not seeing the exchange, and the mail isn't showing up. |
| 21:33.28 | Quantum` | mutt -s âtestâ bill@darkmatter.org, I fill in the body, save and it shows the email ready to go. So I 'y' to send, but it never gets there. |
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| 21:34.16 | tommyF | you can test with curl smtp/smtps |
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| 21:35.17 | jhutchins | Quantum`: Other questions to ask: Will mailx send to other servers? Will mutt? Can outside mailers send to a local user? |
| 21:35.34 | Quantum` | # curl 127.0.0.1:25 |
| 21:35.34 | Quantum` | 554 SMTP synchronization error |
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| 21:36.02 | remote | is there an easy way to sort all files in /etc that are not from packages or who has been modified? |
| 21:36.04 | Quantum` | My gosh. This will take another day of research. |
| 21:36.39 | jhutchins | Quantum`: So the problem is with your mta. exim? |
| 21:36.50 | tommyF | try curl -v smtp://127.0.0.1 |
| 21:36.53 | Quantum` | Looks like it. |
| 21:36.59 | n0arch | remote: find /etc -type f -mtime -7 |
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| 21:38.02 | Quantum` | tommyF: https://pastee.org/4yerj |
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| 21:39.10 | Quantum` | I have exim set for internet mail rather than local only. Should be right. |
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| 21:41.01 | tommyF | Quantum`: looks right - the server is responding - you need to enter the username/password now etc |
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| 21:41.32 | Quantum` | tommyF: I don't have auth set in exim. |
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| 21:41.47 | Quantum` | ... nor StartSSL. |
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| 21:43.04 | Quantum` | For 15 years I've successfully avoided learning email. Just as I have with automatic transmissions. But I need to email from Snort now, so I guess my time is up. |
| 21:43.25 | Quantum` | Something's fscked with exim. |
| 21:43.27 | cafuego | If you need a box to just *send* mail, install nullmailer. |
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| 21:45.50 | Quantum` | I have a main system which will handle the email. Then I'll extend port 25 to the others on the LAN through reverse SSH tunnels. When they have mail they'll think they're sending locally, but it'll go to the main system. But for now, the main system doesn't work. So I have to delve into horrid exim. |
| 21:46.16 | Quantum` | This is not a refreshing change after Snort. |
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| 21:46.43 | haruspexx | hi |
| 21:46.44 | cafuego | I feel your pain. |
| 21:46.45 | Quantum` | As always I have to learn -everything- about -everything- before I can do -anything-. |
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| 21:47.11 | cafuego | But not for long; first thing I do after installing Debian is purging exim and installing postfix instead. |
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| 21:48.01 | cafuego | Quantum`: About reverse ssh, see also `stunnel4' |
| 21:48.04 | Quantum` | cafuego: I thought postfix is more complex? |
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| 21:48.37 | cafuego | Quantum`: I find the postfix config a lot more grokkable than exims. |
| 21:48.42 | Quantum` | I've used reverse ssh for many years for port-forwarding and remote filesystems. |
| 21:49.15 | Quantum` | cafuego: Is it just that you're used to it? Or is it objectively more straightforward? |
| 21:50.01 | cafuego | Quantum`: By now it's that I'm used to it, when I staretd it was totally objective reality ;-) |
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| 21:51.35 | Quantum` | ? You mean self-evident? |
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| 22:01.42 | illy | how do i restart networking on debian |
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| 22:01.53 | illy | since i edited hosts file |
| 22:02.10 | petemc | you shouldnt need to for that |
| 22:02.16 | illy | mkay |
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| 22:07.19 | Lope | does anyone here know ANYTHING USEFUL AT ALL about getting a UPS working with NUT? |
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| 22:17.28 | netstar | Hi all, what is the best NAS approach for a laptop I move about with a portable USB 3 hard disk I want to share EVERYWHERE I take this thing |
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| 22:19.52 | dondelelcaro | netstar: depends what you're sharing and with that you're sharing it with |
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| 22:20.22 | netstar | dondelelcaro: I am running Debian and I want to share to windows and Macintosh computers |
| 22:20.24 | dondelelcaro | netstar: I'd almost be tempted to just slave the usb drive to a wireless router running openwrt or similar, but you can do all of that with just a laptop too |
| 22:20.37 | dondelelcaro | netstar: do you want them to be able to mount it? or should they just use http? |
| 22:20.43 | dondelelcaro | netstar: do they need to be able to write too? |
| 22:20.49 | netstar | yes and mount |
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| 22:21.24 | dondelelcaro | netstar: ok. Then I'd suggest using NFS, and samba, and probably just allowing it for whatever the local network is currently |
| 22:21.42 | dondelelcaro | netstar: if it's just read only, that's simple. Read/write is more complicated, because you'd presumably like to restrict it |
| 22:22.11 | dondelelcaro | thinks that NFS still works with OSX, but isn't certain |
| 22:22.29 | petemc | smb works well |
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| 22:22.42 | dondelelcaro | ah, cool |
| 22:22.49 | petemc | afp from linux to osx doesnt work as well |
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| 22:24.46 | marioxcc | Hello. |
| 22:24.58 | marioxcc | Why is there no MariaDB server for Wheezy? |
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| 22:25.18 | overdrive | hi people: I have just one question; I am trying to install additional packages for LaTeX; I am trying to use texmf, however I do not have the binary in my Linux Debian Wheezy distribution. I have all basic packages like texlive* packages (full instalation), but still... I do not have this binary. Any idea? |
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| 22:41.43 | jair | has anyone here taken the LFCS certification test? I heard that it is based in RH, SUSE, or UBUNTU... but not pure GNU/debian |
| 22:42.20 | jair | just making sure I will need to understand sudo which I normally don't use since in debian I always use either my username or root |
| 22:43.09 | fundies | jair, sudo = super user do |
| 22:43.17 | fundies | all you needa know :P |
| 22:44.02 | break19 | I dunno, I would expect said tests about sudo to also include sudoers and visudo stuffs as well. |
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| 22:44.57 | break19 | but this should give him everything he should need to know: man sudo && man visudo && man sudoers |
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| 22:47.00 | cjohn | jair: and the ABCD or JQRP test? |
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| 22:48.07 | kRush | sounds like a bunch of malarkey |
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| 22:56.25 | jair | break19: you are right |
| 22:56.41 | jair | break19: :) |
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| 22:56.57 | jair | cjohn: I guess will have the vim yes |
| 22:57.38 | jair | Linux Fundation has a special on the exam from $300 just $100 until today |
| 22:57.40 | jair | ;( |
| 22:57.41 | break19 | jair: in life, dog is man's best friend, but in unix, man is admin's best friend. :) |
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| 22:58.44 | jair | break19: but I am not really sure if the man pages can be checked during the exam I think it can be. But instead I rather work in configuring and understand sudo |
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| 22:59.10 | jair | and the other domains for the exam, or pay $100 and see how it goes I may be able to pass LOL |
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| 22:59.32 | break19 | jair: this is why you read the man page, and configure a few test users and groups on your own system, and play around until you feel comfortable with it. |
| 23:00.14 | jair | break19: heard you |
| 23:00.44 | jair | I will do dedicate some time to understand more of this, it is what I love so I really want to understand it. |
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| 23:01.15 | jair | thank you all |
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| 23:07.22 | leni1 | hello all. I'm trying to install i2p-packages |
| 23:08.00 | leni1 | when I add the i2p.list file to sources.init.d, it gives an error of service not available |
| 23:08.26 | leni1 | installing .deb packages hasn't helped either; unmet dependencies |
| 23:08.30 | leni1 | anyone who can help? |
| 23:08.39 | tommyF | jair: the essay question is a bitch |
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| 23:09.14 | someHuman | Hello! |
| 23:09.26 | someHuman | How do I use nonfree wireless driver |
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| 23:09.41 | someHuman | My wireless/wifi driver isn't Free Software compatible yet. |
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| 23:11.36 | jair | hey tommyF what do you mean? did you took it? |
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| 23:12.14 | Brigo | someHuman, what is your wireless? |
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| 23:13.54 | someHuman | Brigo: What's the command again? |
| 23:15.38 | Brigo | how do you know your card is not Free Software compatible? |
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| 23:17.26 | leni1 | hello all. I'm trying to install i2p-packages. when I add the i2p.list file to sources.init.d, it gives an error of service not available. installing .deb packages from this link http://deb.i2p2.no/ hasn't helped either; unmet dependencies Any ideas? |
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| 23:18.46 | someHuman | Brigo: H-node says so. |
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| 23:19.07 | Brigo | someHuman, i did not H-node |
| 23:19.14 | someHuman | Brigo: I am a Trisquel user by the way, so that too indicates that my wireless driver isn't supported. |
| 23:19.23 | someHuman | Brigo: You did not what? |
| 23:19.35 | Brigo | know, sorry :) |
| 23:20.36 | Brigo | someHuman, ok, the you will need firmware, but first we need to know what is your card, if you card is pci use lspci, if usb use lsusb and search for it. |
| 23:20.53 | someHuman | Ok |
| 23:21.19 | someHuman | Brigo: 07:00.0 Network controller: Ralink corp. RT3290 Wireless 802.11n 1T/1R PCIe |
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| 23:22.14 | Brigo | firmware-ralink is the package you need, from non-free |
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| 23:22.25 | Brigo | did you have non-free configured in repos? |
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| 23:25.44 | someHuman | Brigo: Nope. |
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| 23:26.26 | Brigo | you need to add non-free if you want to get firmware-ralink package as far as it is non free software. |
| 23:26.26 | someHuman | BRB. |
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| 23:39.26 | someHuman | Hello! |
| 23:39.30 | someHuman | Brigo: Hey dude! |
| 23:39.35 | someHuman | Brigo: So where were we? |
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| 23:39.50 | Brigo | you need to add non-free if you want to get firmware-ralink package as far as it is non free software. |
| 23:39.58 | someHuman | Brigo: How then? |
| 23:40.01 | Brigo | that was my last message |
| 23:40.15 | Brigo | you need to modify you /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 23:40.20 | someHuman | Ok? |
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| 23:40.38 | Brigo | and add after main, contrib non-free |
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| 23:40.48 | someHuman | Every main? |
| 23:40.55 | Brigo | yes |
| 23:41.00 | someHuman | Every line that ends with "main" ? |
| 23:41.03 | someHuman | Ah ok. |
| 23:41.03 | Brigo | are you with jessie or wheezy? |
| 23:41.07 | someHuman | Wheezy |
| 23:41.16 | someHuman | Jessie isn't stable yet right? |
| 23:41.26 | Brigo | a sample from my one deb http://ftp.es.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main non-free contrib |
| 23:41.30 | someHuman | Debian is fully Free Software by default right? |
| 23:41.34 | Brigo | someHuman, yes, it is testing |
| 23:41.53 | Brigo | yes, but you can chose to add those repos if you want |
| 23:41.53 | dondelelcaro | someHuman: yes. Unless you add contrib or non-free, you'll only have free software |
| 23:42.06 | someHuman | Ah |
| 23:42.32 | someHuman | Wifi is the only reason why I'm using Debian right now. |
| 23:42.38 | someHuman | Sorry if I offend any of you. |
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| 23:43.06 | someHuman | I'd really like to buy the wifi adapter that works with Free Software OSes such as those from Think Penguin. |
| 23:43.16 | someHuman | But I don't have something like a card to get me one. |
| 23:43.41 | marioxcc | Why is there no MariaDB package in Debian wheezy? |
| 23:43.46 | someHuman | But, I respect Debian and the people involved. |
| 23:43.56 | someHuman | For the nonfree part, not so much. |
| 23:44.05 | dondelelcaro | marioxcc: because it wasn't ready in time for wheezy |
| 23:45.11 | someHuman | Brigo: Is that all I have to do? |
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| 23:45.18 | Brigo | someHuman, we only give people a choice :) |
| 23:45.33 | someHuman | Brigo: Thanks! |
| 23:45.43 | Brigo | someHuman, apt-get update && apt-get install firmware-whatever. |
| 23:45.59 | someHuman | Brigo: That's it right? Just add the words "contrib non free" |
| 23:46.12 | Brigo | yes. |
| 23:46.29 | Brigo | like in my example. |
| 23:46.40 | someHuman | Then sudo apt-get install firmware-ralink ? |
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| 23:46.59 | someHuman | What bad stuff can happen to me anyway when I use a nonfree driver? |
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| 23:47.10 | someHuman | Will I be more vulnerable to being spied on? |
| 23:47.42 | someHuman | I'll set up Tor Browser as my default web browser. :) |
| 23:47.49 | Brigo | i do not think so, but you never know. |
| 23:47.50 | dondelelcaro | someHuman: hard for us to say, since we don't have the source code. |
| 23:47.56 | someHuman | Ah |
| 23:48.01 | someHuman | Yeah, that sucks. |
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