| 00:00.14 | `Kevin | ROG3R: fdisk -l | grep 'Disk /dev/sdb' that shows 1GB ? |
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| 00:01.15 | ROG3R | `Kevin: I run what u said and it does nothing |
| 00:01.25 | `Kevin | just run fdisk -l |
| 00:01.33 | `Kevin | look for Disk /dev/sdb (not /dev/sdb1) |
| 00:02.04 | Term1nal | woshty: http://pastebin.com/zjvhfQ7D |
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| 00:02.53 | ROG3R | `Kevin: http://paste.debian.net/134986/ |
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| 00:03.24 | `Kevin | did you remove and readadd it? (sdc) |
| 00:03.28 | `Kevin | readd* |
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| 00:04.20 | Lady_Aleena | goes afk for an hour or three. |
| 00:04.21 | ROG3R | `Kevin: yes |
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| 00:07.44 | `Kevin | ok it makes no sense to me that dd would output that while doing ... sudo dd if=wifislax-4-9-final.iso of=/dev/sdc; sync |
| 00:07.52 | `Kevin | the iso i looked it up is indeed only 700M |
| 00:08.04 | `Kevin | anyhow im afk, leaving work |
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| 00:08.47 | ROG3R | `Kevin: ok thx |
| 00:10.25 | ROG3R | i changed usb slot, works |
| 00:10.54 | `Kevin | odd |
| 00:11.06 | `Kevin | ok welp goodluck, im out for now |
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| 00:13.07 | metabsd | Anyone know what i have to add in that file .chrome-remote-desktop-session if i use KDE Plasma with Google Chrome Remote Desktop ? |
| 00:13.36 | woshty | Term1nal: what is the contents of your routing table file? |
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| 00:16.02 | rained | Guys, what is the latest kernel for debian stable and how do I get it? |
| 00:16.14 | rained | apt-get should normally do it, right? |
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| 00:17.09 | Term1nal | woshty: routing table file? like.. ip route show? |
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| 00:17.34 | woshty | Term1nal: /etc/iproute2/rt_tables |
| 00:18.10 | mmmax | ROG3R: try without 'sync' |
| 00:18.15 | Term1nal | http://pastebin.com/TfmbsxUa |
| 00:18.44 | abrotman | rained: what is 'uname -r' ? |
| 00:18.55 | Sam1984 | http://goat.cx/ http://goat.cx/ http://goat.cx/ http://goat.cx/ http://goat.cx/ http://goat.cx/ http://goat.cx/ http://goat.cx/ http://goat.cx/ http://goat.cx/ UNRAPE ME PLOX |
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| 00:19.06 | rained | abrotman, 3.2.0-4-686-pae |
| 00:19.19 | abrotman | rained: aptitude install linux-image-686-pae |
| 00:19.22 | woshty | too slow :) |
| 00:19.57 | rained | abrotman, nothing, so I guess I already have the latest then |
| 00:22.37 | rained | abrotman, thanks for the fast response, I just wanted to confirm it |
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| 00:28.07 | Term1nal | woshty: didja get it? |
| 00:29.01 | debia | Why cannot I find the swap mount (although I created one during debian setup) using the df command? |
| 00:29.03 | debia | Do I have to pass it some flag to make more visible? |
| 00:29.06 | debia | anyone? |
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| 00:29.52 | woshty | Term1nal: yes now, sry, no clue .. |
| 00:29.59 | Term1nal | :( |
| 00:31.26 | Term1nal | woshty: if this helps: http://pastebin.com/7UkRq72q |
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| 00:33.45 | abrotman | looks at eh what .. |
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| 00:37.52 | Term1nal | woshty: what's weird, is that I can ping the IP of eth1 from another machine |
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| 00:38.08 | Term1nal | I just can't ping out from that interface with ping -I eth1 |
| 00:39.52 | woshty | Term1nal: yeah, where does line 3 in ip rule show come from? |
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| 00:40.46 | Term1nal | woshty: well here's all the rules I added: http://pastebin.com/zjvhfQ7D |
| 00:41.25 | Term1nal | I'm assuming is the from and to rules. |
| 00:41.36 | Term1nal | from all to > 10.0.10.2 |
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| 00:41.46 | Term1nal | and from 10.0.10.2 > whatever |
| 00:44.01 | Term1nal | I used this to set it up: http://www.thomas-krenn.com/en/wiki/Two_Default_Gateways_on_One_System |
| 00:44.38 | debia | Interesting question: When upgrading from squeeze to wheezy you get basically the same system as installing right away wheezy? |
| 00:44.51 | debia | There are no windows upgrade issues (much slower system after 'upgrading'), right? |
| 00:45.19 | debia | When I would diff these two resulting systems I would get only some aux files different, everything the same? |
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| 00:45.35 | debia | And I mean a bare system, just installed, nothing else installed on it. |
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| 00:50.13 | debia | I find this a very interesting question! |
| 00:50.18 | debia | oh |
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| 00:55.34 | woshty | Term1nal: Nope, no idea. |
| 00:56.53 | woshty | Term1nal: lol, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2044148 |
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| 01:00.34 | ROG3R | I wrote an iso on the usb stick with dd ... doesnt boot |
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| 01:03.22 | hays | anyone getting gpg errors on wheezy |
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| 01:04.09 | hays | Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 8B48AD6246925553 Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (7.0/wheezy) |
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| 01:09.45 | digitalice_ | hello |
| 01:09.49 | digitalice_ | anyone here? |
| 01:09.53 | abrotman | lots of peole |
| 01:09.55 | abrotman | people |
| 01:10.01 | digitalice_ | good |
| 01:10.16 | digitalice_ | I don't know what happened, but my auth.log stopped rotating |
| 01:10.19 | digitalice_ | look: |
| 01:10.23 | digitalice_ | -rw-r----- 1 root adm 0 Oct 12 06:25 /var/log/auth.log |
| 01:10.24 | digitalice_ | -rw-r----- 1 root adm 311909318 Dec 5 01:08 /var/log/auth.log.1 |
| 01:10.24 | digitalice_ | -rw-r----- 1 root adm 24693 Oct 5 06:25 /var/log/auth.log.2.gz |
| 01:10.24 | digitalice_ | -rw-r----- 1 root adm 28491 Sep 28 06:25 /var/log/auth.log.3.gz |
| 01:10.24 | digitalice_ | -rw-r----- 1 root adm 25487 Sep 21 06:25 /var/log/auth.log.4.gz |
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| 01:10.52 | digitalice_ | sorry |
| 01:11.25 | abrotman | digitalice_: restart your logger daemon |
| 01:11.33 | noc0lour | hi |
| 01:11.34 | digitalice_ | here: http://paste.debian.net/134989/ |
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| 01:11.42 | abrotman | digitalice_: restart your logging daemon |
| 01:11.56 | debia | and my question? :D |
| 01:12.00 | debia | who want to answer it? |
| 01:12.18 | abrotman | debia: no, you have cruft when you upgrade |
| 01:12.23 | digitalice_ | abortman: will do that! why do you think that happened? I never touched anything related to logs |
| 01:12.26 | abrotman | debia: but the systems shuld be functionally the same |
| 01:12.31 | abrotman | digitalice_: Jessie? |
| 01:13.03 | abrotman | digitalice_: kill -1 $(pgrep syslog) |
| 01:14.10 | debia | abrotman: how much cruft? what kind of cruft? even when it was a bare base system? |
| 01:14.11 | digitalice_ | abrotman, mmm is there any other more clean way to do it? |
| 01:14.21 | debia | When I clean it with apt-get autoremove --purge? |
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| 01:15.12 | abrotman | digitalice_: that's a SIGHUP |
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| 01:16.24 | digitalice_ | abrotman, ahh, right :) is not SIGKILL |
| 01:16.35 | digitalice_ | abrotman, done. worked for me! thanks! |
| 01:16.46 | digitalice_ | abrotman, any idea why the log deamon got crazy? |
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| 01:20.06 | debia | abrotman: so when I also run apt-get autoremove --purge, would this remove the cruft? |
| 01:20.12 | debia | abrotman: is there an upgrade decrufter ? |
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| 01:22.01 | abrotman | debia: there's a program called cruft |
| 01:22.08 | abrotman | digitalice_: nope |
| 01:22.58 | debia | abrotman: oh |
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| 01:25.06 | debia | ok, so cruft is needed because many debian packages don't pass the piuparts test? Or incomplete uninstallation of debian packages? |
| 01:25.08 | woshty | Term1nal: I tried to rebuild your config with eth0:1 as I do not have another nic. Leaving out the auto eth0:1 (yours auto eth1) I can exactly run ifup eth0:1 one time without errors .. did the ip flush networking restart, then ifup |
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| 01:27.33 | Term1nal | eth0:1 ? |
| 01:27.45 | Term1nal | just of note, I have 2 NICs |
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| 01:28.49 | Term1nal | woshty: but I can ifup eth1 without error as well, and as I mentioned already, I can ping that IP remotely with success. |
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| 01:29.11 | Term1nal | just not ping OUT, or any other outbound traffic |
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| 01:32.25 | Term1nal | woshty: I can even SSH to that address. |
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| 01:35.58 | auscompgeek | sounds like your routing might be broken |
| 01:36.03 | Term1nal | must be.. |
| 01:36.12 | Term1nal | tcpdump on eth1 is showing the SSH traffic too |
| 01:36.20 | Term1nal | I just can't ping out |
| 01:36.33 | Term1nal | from that interface |
| 01:37.29 | woshty | Term1nal: yeah, I tried to simulate that .. so now you can call ifdown eth1 and ifup eth1 as many times as you want without errors? |
| 01:37.52 | Term1nal | I do get an error on down. |
| 01:38.41 | woshty | ifdown: interface eth1 not configured ? |
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| 01:40.50 | Term1nal | sorry had a phone call |
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| 01:40.52 | Term1nal | RTNETLINK answers: No such process |
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| 01:42.45 | Term1nal | auscompgeek: Also, my routing table(s) -> http://pastebin.com/7UkRq72q |
| 01:42.58 | Term1nal | oh it expired |
| 01:42.59 | Term1nal | one sec |
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| 01:46.08 | Term1nal | http://pastebin.com/6qi1gba0 |
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| 01:47.13 | ROG3R | how do i unlock keyring? |
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| 01:47.58 | Brigo | ROG3R, with the password :) |
| 01:48.17 | ROG3R | Brigo: good thinking |
| 01:48.29 | Brigo | I knew you will love it :D |
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| 01:57.49 | woshty | Term1nal: I would have to have a second network and card at hand to test .. I just flushed my ip rules, not good :) Maybe ask again at Euro day time tomorrow .. |
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| 02:03.45 | Term1nal | woshty: I tried it a different way, with the exact same results: http://pastebin.com/KxfTvrQ7 |
| 02:03.59 | ROG3R | I am trying to make a bootable usb live cd. I tired burning the iso using "dd" and it doesnt boot. I tried to burn again with UNetbooting and still doesnt boot. yes bios is setup to boot from usb |
| 02:04.52 | Term1nal | ROG3R: can't use dd on an ISO, however, unetbootin should've done the trick. |
| 02:05.47 | Brigo | ROG3R, how did you use dd? what was the command? |
| 02:06.06 | Term1nal | well, what I meant to say is, dding the CD installer ISO to a USB isn't going to accomplish what you're trying to do as far as I am aware. |
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| 02:06.38 | Term1nal | woshty: I'll be back later, gotta drive home. |
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| 02:08.08 | rjsalts | I'm doing while true;do tail -F logfile | grep -m 1 "canary is dead";gather data;done but grep -m 1 is only triggering if there is a line after "canary is dead" matches |
| 02:08.42 | rjsalts | I assume it's something to do with grep being line matching |
| 02:09.01 | rjsalts | any way to exit immediately? would grep -o do it? |
| 02:09.39 | rjsalts | grep -o doesn't work |
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| 02:13.00 | Brigo | rjsalts, may be something regarding your file, i tried it on syslog and it works, as far i can see. |
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| 02:13.28 | AlexLikerock | how to identify my sound card ? |
| 02:13.45 | eurobit | lshw |
| 02:13.46 | AlexLikerock | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:13.50 | AlexLikerock | tanks euphoria |
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| 02:14.02 | Brigo | cat /proc/asound/cards |
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| 02:14.32 | AlexLikerock | euphoria, error ! # lshw |
| 02:14.32 | AlexLikerock | bash: lshw: command not found |
| 02:14.42 | AlexLikerock | tanks brianblaze420 |
| 02:14.46 | AlexLikerock | grrrr ! |
| 02:14.50 | AlexLikerock | tanks Brigo |
| 02:15.03 | brianblaze420 | what? what? I am awake! |
| 02:15.10 | brianblaze420 | lol |
| 02:15.18 | Brigo | AlexLikerock, you are wellcome (that time ;D ) |
| 02:15.33 | AlexLikerock | sorry i fall to touch "tab - key" |
| 02:15.36 | AlexLikerock | lol |
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| 02:15.49 | brianblaze420 | it's cool I do it all the time AlexLikerock |
| 02:15.51 | brianblaze420 | lol |
| 02:15.59 | AlexLikerock | :) |
| 02:16.44 | rjsalts | Brigo: it works fine after one match, but only once a new line is appended to the file |
| 02:17.49 | rjsalts | Brigo: e.g. "canary" is written to logfile and nothing is written to that file for another 2 hours, next line causes grep -m 1 to exit, but it's two hours after the event because nothing happened between then |
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| 02:18.39 | Brigo | rjsalts, what about use grep, without -m 1? |
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| 02:20.31 | rjsalts | It prints, just doesn't exit |
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| 02:20.45 | rjsalts | I'm more interested in the gather data step |
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| 02:20.50 | Akuw | hi |
| 02:21.12 | Akuw | my daugther was using her laptop and fall down when was on |
| 02:21.35 | Akuw | now linux can mount sd1 |
| 02:21.38 | Akuw | sda1 |
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| 02:22.18 | eurobit | is sda the main hard disk? |
| 02:22.29 | Brigo | Akuw, did you hear the disk spinning? |
| 02:22.44 | Akuw | no |
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| 02:23.02 | Akuw | i but with live cd and can't mount sda1 |
| 02:23.26 | Brigo | Akuw, did you have backups? |
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| 02:23.54 | Akuw | just a poem made by her |
| 02:24.07 | Akuw | but she have in her memory :) |
| 02:24.13 | eurobit | wipes a tear from his eys |
| 02:24.30 | Akuw | just write in a paper, soi can proced to try install linux debian again |
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| 02:25.00 | Akuw | she learn lesson, don't drop laptop when is on |
| 02:25.10 | eurobit | and even when not on |
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| 02:33.17 | rjsalts | sweet, found a solution: http://superuser.com/questions/275827/how-to-read-one-line-from-tail-f-through-a-pipeline-and-then-terminate |
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| 02:34.29 | pingfloyd | Definitely more vulnerable to a head crash in that state |
| 02:35.48 | eurobit | pingfloyd: only if not ssd ;) |
| 02:35.50 | debia | OK, one crazy thing now. I am in that rescue console thing and got basic toolset. Now I want to boot debian 7 (wheezy) directly over network (very fast internet link). |
| 02:35.53 | debia | is that possible? |
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| 02:36.04 | debia | just wget the netinst iso? Well, I think this wouldn't be possible ,right? |
| 02:36.10 | debia | I want to normal debian installer for this. |
| 02:37.26 | eurobit | no cd/dvd? |
| 02:37.51 | abrotman | debia: you can use the netinst to do that, it will detect your network and download what it needs |
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| 02:38.12 | debia | abrotman: but I would have to reboot from that rescue console on that downloaded iso |
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| 02:39.15 | abrotman | debia: what? boot th einstlaler like a normal pereson |
| 02:39.38 | abrotman | dpkg: tell debia aboutig |
| 02:39.39 | debia | I can only use a dumb 'rescue' console for 'partitioning' and such stuff. |
| 02:39.40 | abrotman | dpkg: tell debia about ig |
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| 03:51.18 | DrakkenWarr | o7 gents.. Anyone here have experience with getting bluetooth working with a thinkpad laptop? |
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| 04:16.41 | RayzrShrp | anybody know how to fix the ethernet device is not managed message in xfce4? |
| 04:16.53 | RayzrShrp | i cant seem to specify the ip address through the network manager |
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| 04:24.01 | axxo_ | clear |
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| 04:36.07 | RedDjinn | Evenin' |
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| 04:37.50 | DrakkenWarr | o7 RedDjinn |
| 04:38.13 | DrakkenWarr | anyone here have experience with bluetooth support on the thinkpad t400s |
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| 04:44.18 | auscompgeek | DrakkenWarr: what's the problem? |
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| 04:45.49 | DrakkenWarr | I cannot figure out how to get my bluetooth keyboard connected to my T400s in openbox under debian |
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| 04:47.35 | RedDjinn | So, I am a programmer, and I am considering contributing to Debian right now. |
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| 04:50.12 | DrakkenWarr | there is a great guide for doing that RedDjinn |
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| 04:53.15 | Nillerz | Howdy folks |
| 04:53.48 | Nillerz | I have just finished building my new machine, and I have a problem: The nvidia card's HDMI audio output is overriding my motherboards sound device |
| 04:54.07 | Nillerz | I would just disable the kernel module for the audio output on the video card, but it's snd_hda_intel, and |
| 04:54.12 | Nillerz | SURPRISE SURPRISE! |
| 04:54.20 | Nillerz | so is the motherboards kernel module |
| 04:54.31 | Nillerz | so if I disable it I'm disabling both chips. :c |
| 04:54.40 | Nillerz | anyone familiar with this sort of thing? |
| 04:55.17 | DrakkenWarr | nvidia? Nillerz |
| 04:55.21 | Nillerz | yes |
| 04:55.34 | Nillerz | it's my brand new 750 ti |
| 04:55.37 | Nillerz | and it's an alsa hog. |
| 04:57.27 | DrakkenWarr | have you installed the proprietary drivers from nvidia? |
| 04:57.36 | Nillerz | yes. |
| 04:57.50 | Nillerz | that isn't the issue, it's not that I need nvidia's drivers to work, they work fine |
| 04:57.54 | DrakkenWarr | so you are mucking with the nvidia-settings-manger? |
| 04:58.00 | Nillerz | it's just that I don't want to use hdmi audio output as the default audio output |
| 04:58.14 | DrakkenWarr | ah, okay, what wm are you using? |
| 04:58.20 | Nillerz | xfce |
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| 04:58.27 | DrakkenWarr | so alsa |
| 04:58.38 | DrakkenWarr | unless you mucked with pulse |
| 04:58.45 | Nillerz | nope |
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| 04:59.37 | DrakkenWarr | so alsa is where you need to look then to sort out audio... ALSA is easier than Pulse |
| 04:59.45 | Rusty1 | alsamixer doesnt provide any help? |
| 04:59.56 | Nillerz | alsamixer doesn't change the default audio card. |
| 04:59.57 | auscompgeek | yeah, I'd try poking alsamixer a bit |
| 05:00.14 | Nillerz | I added a line to my rc.local |
| 05:00.18 | Nillerz | see if this works |
| 05:00.23 | Nillerz | some arch guy says it worked for him. |
| 05:00.27 | Nillerz | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:00.38 | Nillerz | echo 1 > /sys/devices/pci0000\:00/0000\:00\:03.0/0000\:01\:00.1/remove |
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| 05:00.56 | DrakkenWarr | no, while it does not change the default audio card.. but mucking with arch shit is not going to fix your audio issues.. This is debian |
| 05:01.05 | DrakkenWarr | way freakin different than arch |
| 05:01.45 | DrakkenWarr | so if you are dealing with pulse.. Do headphones work but not the built in speakers? |
| 05:01.58 | auscompgeek | DrakkenWarr: Nillerz left |
| 05:02.11 | auscompgeek | you're talking to /dev/null there |
| 05:02.27 | DrakkenWarr | yeah, just caught that auscompgeek.. thanks man.. have a bit going on here |
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| 05:05.19 | Nillerz | it didn't work |
| 05:05.20 | Nillerz | :c |
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| 05:08.13 | auscompgeek | that's unsurprising |
| 05:08.40 | DrakkenWarr | what did not work Nillerz |
| 05:08.52 | auscompgeek | left again |
| 05:08.54 | auscompgeek | sigh |
| 05:09.40 | alphazulu | is there any way to speed up an atrociously slow external usb drive? |
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| 05:12.57 | RedDjinn | @alphazulu aside from USB 3.0 I'm not sure there is a way |
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| 05:13.30 | DrakkenWarr | looking for a backup solution RedDjinn? |
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| 05:14.01 | alphazulu | RedDjinn: yes would like to add a card but can't find one that works with the old pci slot on the optiplex 960 |
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| 05:49.07 | ROG3R | is there a small distro to run as a live cd that has wireless manager? |
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| 05:52.46 | jasonwc | My I/O is getting killed every few minutes and iotop shows smartctl is running on all my ZFS disks. I stopped the smartd service but smartctl -a is still running. How do I stop this? |
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| 05:57.21 | uf | Ubuntu is an ancient african word, meaning "I can't configure Debian" |
| 05:57.27 | uf | XD |
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| 05:58.00 | LoganG | uf: lol |
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| 06:08.56 | auscompgeek | people should stop using Urban Dictionary as a reliable source of information :P |
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| 06:14.34 | bilat | How do i kill all process in a one blast or is it posible to kill all process , My machine have 40 or 50 like this same all bt dfrent process ID -> albert 14672 0.0 0.7 7552 3288 ? S Dec03 0:00 /usr/bin/httpd |
| 06:14.44 | bilat | I thnk my machine got spam bot |
| 06:15.07 | bilat | I could manually kill it bt i wanna ask if theres any chance to kill all of it in one command |
| 06:15.11 | nully | yes |
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| 06:15.20 | nully | if its lal the same user: pkill -9 -u username |
| 06:15.28 | nully | or killall -9 /usr/bin/httpd |
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| 06:16.00 | nully | or even: ps -ef | awk '/pattern/{print $2}' | xargs kill -9 |
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| 06:16.18 | nully | bilat: good luck and happy kill -9s |
| 06:18.10 | bilat | great, gonna check it in a bit. |
| 06:18.57 | evilman_work | bilat: killall |
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| 06:19.39 | auscompgeek | killall and pkill are definitely your friends here |
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| 06:30.40 | bilat | when i do killall -9 /usr/bin/httpd |
| 06:30.40 | bilat | it says --> /usr/bin/httpd: No such file or directory |
| 06:30.46 | bilat | the process still running. |
| 06:30.55 | bilat | all of them |
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| 06:47.03 | mynis | just type in httpd instead of the full path |
| 06:47.54 | cafuego | it's called apache2 on Debian and it lives in /usr/sbin |
| 06:48.03 | cafuego | Use the initscript or apache2ctl |
| 06:48.54 | cafuego | If you have processes called /usr/bin/httpd on Debian, you should probably check that your most recent backups weren't rootkitted and go from there... |
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| 07:27.49 | eb0t | test |
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| 07:31.35 | excalibr | tset |
| 07:31.36 | cali | is it possible to setup dual stack IPv4, IPv6 during debian setup? It seems that only one or the other can be chosen. |
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| 07:32.05 | oeri | trying to use LD_PRELOAD to override a function in a binary that i do not have the source for. having some difficulty - anyone familiar with doing this? |
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| 07:34.07 | ChrisH | oeri: export LD_PRELOAD=/some/path/lib ; ./binarz |
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| 07:34.41 | oeri | thanks ChrisH, i've gotten that far, i think there is an error in my C code |
| 07:35.07 | ChrisH | dpkg: tell oeri about ask |
| 07:35.11 | oeri | ChrisH: http://pastebin.com/tNZMjqvn |
| 07:35.55 | ChrisH | oeri: I do not dare to look right now... using windows to flash my mobile phone... :) |
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| 07:37.15 | ChrisH | phone rebooting... fingers crossed |
| 07:38.25 | ChrisH | oeri: there is the compilercall and the output missing. |
| 07:39.05 | oeri | gcc -shared -fPIC -o liboverride.so override.c -ldl output is normal program output |
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| 07:43.33 | ChrisH | c/C++ .... done a long time ago. I would check using strace/truss to a) verify the function name is correct b) it loads your lib ; mobile flash done, poweroff till later from office |
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| 07:46.55 | j416 | hi o/ I'm on raspbian (which I assume is not too unlike debian); for some reason / has been mounted read-only, and I can't sudo "-bash: /usr/bin/sudo: Input/output error" -- is there a way to recover from this state? |
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| 08:06.11 | aborrero | j416: why read only? I would investigate if that is the result of an error. |
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| 08:11.56 | j416 | aborrero: it probably is; how can I fix it? |
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| 08:12.59 | aborrero | j416: it depends on which kind of error. I would look dmesg and /var/log/syslog to see any error message |
| 08:13.03 | j416 | aborrero: I ran "git grep foo" and it probably ate all resources and caused something to fail, not sure why |
| 08:13.17 | jelly-home | !raspbian |
| 08:13.17 | dpkg | Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/ |
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| 08:13.43 | j416 | aborrero: "mmc0: Card stuck in programming state! mmcblk0 mmc_blk_err_check" |
| 08:14.08 | jusbv | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:14.13 | jusbv | ÷j #raspbian |
| 08:14.14 | jelly-home | j416: sounds like a driver or hardware issue |
| 08:14.22 | j416 | guessing I can't fix this without physically resetting the thing? |
| 08:14.30 | j416 | I'm 20 km away from it |
| 08:15.09 | jelly-home | ask the right people; if it were a PC I'd say reboot or power-cycle, then fsck |
| 08:15.12 | j416 | jelly-home: no idea; never installed any drivers or other hardware |
| 08:15.21 | j416 | jelly-home: yes, problem is I can't reboot |
| 08:15.40 | j416 | I guess I'll just leave it until I get a chance to pull the plug |
| 08:15.46 | jelly-home | j416: your kernel provides the drivers |
| 08:15.54 | j416 | jelly-home: does that help me to reboot? |
| 08:16.58 | jelly-home | j416: again, ask in the right place, I've no idea know what kernel raspbian uses |
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| 08:18.32 | j416 | physical reboot it is, thanks. |
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| 08:39.41 | waqstar | morning/afternoon/evening all |
| 08:39.45 | waqstar | :) |
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| 08:39.58 | waqstar | does anyone know of a web alternative to keepass? |
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| 08:43.04 | auscompgeek | uhh... LastPass? |
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| 08:43.27 | waqstar | is lastpass as secure? |
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| 08:44.20 | vedranm | wheezy minimal install with system utilities was ~300 packages |
| 08:44.33 | vedranm | after upgrading to jessie, the installation has ~460 packages |
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| 08:44.51 | vedranm | am I doing something wrong? |
| 08:45.01 | rgr | waqstar: lastpass is very secure if you dont compromise your password. |
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| 08:45.20 | auscompgeek | vedranm: some of them would probably be transitional packages |
| 08:45.23 | waqstar | rgr: thanks ill give that a go |
| 08:45.29 | rgr | vedranm: why worry? What does te "number of packages" mean to you? |
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| 08:49.31 | waqstar | how would i go about adding a apt package to a server which does not have internet access? is there a way i can do apt-get dryrun so it doesnt install and gives me all the packages required which i can take to that server? |
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| 08:50.46 | dracc | waqstar: "aptitude download [package name]" works, maybe something similar for apt-get? :) |
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| 08:51.24 | waqstar | dracc: kew |
| 08:51.28 | waqstar | kewl* |
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| 08:52.48 | dracc | waqstar: GLHF! :) |
| 08:53.28 | banjo | waqstar: maybe apt-offline |
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| 08:55.41 | waqstar | aw man!! just realised if i install lastpass, i have 100's of passwords in my currenty keepass file. damn it |
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| 09:08.15 | JNixx | waqstar: I'm pretty sure Lastpass has a decent import tool built in for Keepass. |
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| 10:01.27 | Skyrider | Greetings |
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| 10:03.04 | mynis | Hail! And well met! |
| 10:03.24 | Skyrider | :o |
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| 10:06.28 | superrorc | hi there! |
| 10:06.32 | Skyrider | hi |
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| 10:06.39 | superrorc | have a question |
| 10:06.59 | superrorc | is it true that - he rc.local file on Debian is mostly for compatibility with non-init style systems. You should not use it. |
| 10:07.10 | superrorc | Instead, it is recommended that you copy /etc/init.d/Skeleton to a new init script for whatever you want to happen while changing runlevels, then use inserv to enable it. |
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| 10:09.23 | jelly | superrorc: that's correct, esp. if you're starting some sort of service |
| 10:09.23 | Skyrider | Good Q.. no idea.. newbie :( |
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| 10:10.08 | Skyrider | neat0 |
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| 10:10.22 | superrorc | same.. my fking rc.local dont work... it default with /bin/touch command to test it |
| 10:10.59 | babilen | rc.local works on wheezy |
| 10:11.08 | superrorc | not for my... |
| 10:11.11 | superrorc | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 393 Dec 4 18:02 /etc/rc.local |
| 10:11.17 | babilen | But then, yes, proper init scripts are naturally preferred |
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| 10:11.45 | babilen | (or systemd unit files if you use that (which you probably don't on wheezy)) |
| 10:12.02 | superrorc | i have debian 7.7 |
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| 10:12.20 | superrorc | how can i find if my system use systemd? |
| 10:12.59 | jelly | superrorc: it doesn't. |
| 10:13.12 | babilen | It probably doesn't, but you can run "test -d /run/systemd/system" to check. |
| 10:13.25 | babilen | (or check if that exists) |
| 10:13.32 | superrorc | thanks a lot! |
| 10:13.41 | superrorc | ill trying now |
| 10:13.46 | FlashDel | morning everybody, i got a question. i am trying to copy files to a mounted nfs share, but the timestamp is not preserved (with cp -a or rsync -a). Is there any reason for it? |
| 10:13.47 | babilen | superrorc: So, what do you have in rc.local and did you run insserv after making changes? |
| 10:13.50 | jelly | test -d /run/systemd/system && echo its there |
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| 10:13.55 | babilen | yeah |
| 10:14.07 | Skyrider | Does anyone know if a database exists for known hijackers, port scans, etc? |
| 10:14.15 | Skyrider | so I can include that into my server. |
| 10:14.27 | jelly | Skyrider: there are several realtime blacklists for that |
| 10:14.32 | Skyrider | sweet |
| 10:14.46 | superrorc | babilen: i havnt systemd ) and no, i dont use insserv |
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| 10:15.08 | babilen | brb |
| 10:15.09 | jelly | Skyrider: xbl and its superset zen from spamhaus.org come to mind |
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| 10:15.54 | Skyrider | Thanks, I'll check it out. |
| 10:16.18 | superrorc | my rc.local is simple - http://paste.debian.net/plain/135018 |
| 10:16.26 | tugrik | jelly - spamhaus doing reputation based lists now, rather than just based on spam? |
| 10:16.26 | Skyrider | I'm a newbie still on debian.. but so far I've installed fail2ban, cfs firewall, disabled root login and changed the ssh port. |
| 10:16.36 | Skyrider | I think that should boost up the security a bit |
| 10:17.00 | jelly | tugrik: xbl has never been about spam |
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| 10:17.19 | superrorc | Skyrider: exactly |
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| 10:24.13 | Mr_Dern | I seem to have run into a little problem with a fake RAID device what information do you guys require to offer me some aid? |
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| 10:25.22 | tugrik | jelly: FAQ disagrees - http://www.spamhaus.org/faq/section/Spamhaus%20XBL - but I think I was thinking of the SBL, been a while since I looked at what spamhaus offer in any detail... |
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| 10:29.09 | Mr_Dern | mdadm has issues with the raib because it cannot find it's superblock |
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| 10:30.36 | Esya | Guys, small CPU question. When a proc forks itself, by default the fork is running on another CPU, and when a proc spawns a child proc, this child is running on the same CPU as its parent? |
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| 10:35.48 | Mr_Dern | who has some experience migrating LDM to Linux? |
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| 10:45.29 | Mr_Dern | I seem to have run into a little problem with a fake RAID device what information do you guys require to offer me some aid? |
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| 10:49.51 | _|x|_ | ls |
| 10:49.52 | _|x|_ | t est |
| 10:50.21 | Mr_Dern | ACK |
| 10:50.24 | _|x|_ | youd think urxvt and xterm would be faster but terminology seems to win out |
| 10:50.32 | _|x|_ | weird |
| 10:51.22 | Mr_Dern | protocol is the overhead when your talking about connections over a line _|x|_ |
| 10:51.41 | _|x|_ | im talking about screen writes |
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| 10:53.25 | Mr_Dern | _|x|_, that is a subjective matter without using a time in your command |
| 10:53.43 | rgr | faster at what? Depends how they're set up. |
| 10:53.51 | Skyrider | is spamhaus only for apache? |
| 10:54.10 | _|x|_ | they all nominally dmesg at the same speed |
| 10:54.25 | rgr | why would you think its only for apache? |
| 10:54.38 | Skyrider | all I find regarding spamhaus (for installation) is apache results. |
| 10:54.58 | _|x|_ | but if i scroll to the top of said dmesg, theres visible screen lag in urxvt and xterm |
| 10:55.03 | rgr | pretty sure Ive used it in gnus. Its a list at the end of the day. |
| 10:55.04 | Mr_Dern | _|x|_, question is then were the bottleneck is located |
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| 10:55.27 | rgr | mayb they have different xresources and defaults. |
| 10:56.29 | Mr_Dern | is still stuck with RAID |
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| 10:57.02 | _|x|_ | im not saying its a problem, just maybe terminology is straight up faster in the framebuffer |
| 10:57.24 | _|x|_ | at the expense of being 400MB of course... |
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| 11:00.01 | Mr_Dern | _|x|_, being 400MiB is problematic in and of itself for most of my systems |
| 11:00.02 | _|x|_ | displaces my whole lightweight = fast mentality |
| 11:00.50 | HOS_nerv | Hi, I'm trying to install php5 under wheezy and I'm getting unresolved dependencies all over the place, do I need to add another repository such as dotdeb or am I doing it wrong ? |
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| 11:01.31 | HOS_nerv | I'm mainly a Slackware user, but used to play with debian a while ago, and don't remember having issues such as this |
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| 11:01.48 | lsdfis | hm |
| 11:01.52 | _|x|_ | hm |
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| 11:03.01 | venturi | good day commander |
| 11:03.08 | HOS_nerv | Someone ? |
| 11:03.40 | Mr_Dern | HOS_nerv, are you running apache? |
| 11:03.48 | HOS_nerv | yes |
| 11:04.05 | HOS_nerv | I did a "default" web server installation |
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| 11:06.07 | Mr_Dern | I am generaly a Gentoo User so i do not have the word default in my vocabulary, However for a friend i am installing this debian fileserver right now but i am running into raid issue which i find ammusing since I can read the files, Long live raid1 but i cannot rebuild the fake raid |
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| 11:07.08 | bet0x | can i get Jessie without systemd? |
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| 11:08.03 | Mr_Dern | HOS_nerv, only thing i can come up with is that apache is running while your making your attempt but i doubt it. |
| 11:09.07 | HOS_nerv | It isn't, so nah. I think I'm just confused by the way Debian repositories works. |
| 11:09.49 | HOS_nerv | The two I have right now are deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib and deb-src http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main contrib |
| 11:09.49 | Mr_Dern | HOS_nerv, then libapache wouldn't be locked |
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| 11:10.13 | HOS_nerv | isn't it supposed to be enough for basic system administration ? |
| 11:10.42 | Mr_Dern | when a system is running it's suppose to be halted and updated |
| 11:11.02 | _|x|_ | wut |
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| 11:11.13 | ChrisH | HOS_nerv: PHP5 shouyld install without problems via apt-get install.... please paste the command used and the sources.list on paste.debian/net |
| 11:11.19 | HOS_nerv | I'm not quite sure what you're talking about :p |
| 11:11.25 | HOS_nerv | ok |
| 11:12.02 | Mr_Dern | _|x|_, I am that old. ;) |
| 11:12.19 | _|x|_ | you seem to want to make me aware of that |
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| 11:13.19 | Mr_Dern | Anyhow raid, dmraid or mdadm? |
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| 11:15.08 | Mr_Dern | Anyone? |
| 11:15.24 | HOS_nerv | ChrisH: I've listed the repositories I have a few massages ago, maybe I'm not supposed to use just that ? Thats what I got by default. Now that I think about it the security repo aren't meant to be used on their own, are they ? |
| 11:16.20 | HOS_nerv | s/massages/messages :p |
| 11:16.33 | HOS_nerv | I probably need one at the moment |
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| 11:18.38 | ChrisH | HOS_nerv: If you want help, you need to show us all. Please paste the command incl. messages and sources.list I assume your sources.list in incorrect. |
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| 11:21.00 | _|x|_ | jk |
| 11:21.08 | zrafa | Hi, does somebody know how to build a live dvd but from your hard disk debian installation? I read that casper helped to do that in ubuntu some years ago (dont know now) |
| 11:21.48 | zrafa | but I would like to build something like that : a live dvd but using as rootfs in the building process the rootfs of my Debian in hard disk |
| 11:21.49 | Brigo | zrafa, may be bootcd |
| 11:22.19 | zrafa | Brigo: reading the package information.. |
| 11:23.02 | zrafa | Brigo: nice! it seems the tool I need!! |
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| 11:23.22 | zrafa | Brigo: thanks |
| 11:23.43 | Brigo | zrafa, yw :) |
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| 11:24.56 | zrafa | Brigo: will it work? The description in package mentions "floppy" :P |
| 11:24.59 | zrafa | :) |
| 11:25.33 | Brigo | zrafa, the entire line is "To reuse this changes at next boot time |
| 11:25.33 | Brigo | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:26.06 | Brigo | The problem should be the changes you do in the system. |
| 11:26.06 | zrafa | Brigo: yes, I meant, if it mentions floppy sound like nobody in many years has updated |
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| 11:26.38 | Brigo | zrafa, really don't know, try it. If it is in repos it should work. |
| 11:26.41 | zrafa | Brigo: I will try anyway |
| 11:26.43 | zrafa | yeah |
| 11:26.45 | superrorc | anybody help me pls! have some troubles with rc.local http://paste.debian.net/plain/135027 |
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| 11:27.15 | superrorc | it's dont execut on boot |
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| 11:28.09 | _|x|_ | format pubmsg_me_channel {pubmsgmenick $3 {menick $[-9]0}{msgchannel $1}}$2 |
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| 11:29.06 | HOS_nerv | ChrisH: http://pastebin.com/ZgpVLi93 |
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| 11:29.22 | HOS_nerv | I'm pretty sure what I have in my source.list aint enough |
| 11:29.45 | HOS_nerv | also it's in french because someone cried for me to set the locale to fr, sorry about that |
| 11:30.34 | superrorc | any ideas pls? |
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| 11:31.44 | Brigo | superrorc, that directories, /etc/rc3.d/S22rc.local, are links to ../init.d/rc.local, there is just one local dir |
| 11:32.40 | superrorc | i know... |
| 11:32.50 | Brigo | you have to put the script it that directory and make it executable, that is all. |
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| 11:33.25 | ChrisH | dpkg: tell HOS_nerv about sources.list |
| 11:33.41 | mynis | superrorc: chmod -R ug+x /etc/rc.local* |
| 11:33.58 | superrorc | Brigo: no.. /etc/rcX.d/SXX.rclocal is a symlink |
| 11:34.10 | ChrisH | HOS_nerv: there are 2 lines missing... apt-get update && apt-get install php5 would work afterwards |
| 11:34.20 | Brigo | superrorc, and what i said? |
| 11:34.32 | superrorc | mynis: ty, will try now |
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| 11:34.53 | mynis | wait are you trying to make something run at startup or at a certain runlevel? |
| 11:35.12 | mynis | you could also use cron to just make something run right after the machine boots |
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| 11:35.31 | superrorc | need rc.local... |
| 11:35.45 | superrorc | all works , but than somtnig corrupt |
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| 11:37.04 | superrorc | work with this http://paste.debian.net/plain/135029 |
| 11:37.19 | HOS_nerv | ChrisH: knew it (not really). Thanks for the help :) |
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| 11:44.54 | mynis | i would make just like a dummy script that runs "touch" on a file somewhere so you can see if rc.local is working |
| 11:45.29 | mynis | there's really no way to break that functionality on accident that i'm aware of, so you need to isolate your issue further |
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| 11:49.30 | superrorc | mynis: ... i sad than i trying simple /bin/touch and it's works only manual |
| 11:49.34 | superrorc | not on boot |
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| 11:50.19 | banjo | HOS_nerv: your sourcelist should look like this http://paste.debian.net/hidden/d9a66080/ |
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| 11:50.59 | mynis | so your rc.local only has one line that's not commented out and it says "/bin/touch /home/superrorc/testfile" or something like that, and it's not working? |
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| 11:53.32 | superrorc | mynis: [16:18:52] <superrorc> if i try /bin/touch /home/user/works , just to test rc - dont work to.. works if run it manualy with /etc/init.d/rc.local star |
| 11:54.09 | superrorc | ofc have #!/bin/sh -e |
| 11:54.16 | mynis | what are the perms on rc.local? |
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| 11:54.29 | superrorc | http://paste.debian.net/plain/135027 this |
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| 11:56.02 | mynis | mm yeah that's kinda wierd, might wanna try changing group/ownership just to see what happens but i think rc.local runs commands as root anyways so it shouldn't matter |
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| 11:56.25 | superrorc | rc.local must have root:root ... =( |
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| 11:57.54 | superrorc | i know than better use init.d script, but i want to now what i doing wrong |
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| 11:59.31 | mynis | i know it's a workaround not a solution, but have you tried just using cron? |
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| 12:01.02 | superrorc | no.. hate crone( |
| 12:01.05 | superrorc | cron* |
| 12:01.47 | superrorc | mynis: but ty for replays |
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| 12:03.08 | mynis | actually you know what's funny, i went to my google search bar to type in "rc.local does not work...." and it auto completed to ".....does not work in debian 7" |
| 12:03.22 | mynis | so i think i actually must have had the same issue on this VM at some point |
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| 12:04.18 | mynis | maybe mess with update-rc.d? |
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| 12:07.03 | mynis | actually, were you pointing the scripts to binaries in /bin/? cause i think you might want to point to the ones in /usr/bin/ instead |
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| 12:10.24 | superrorc | think that all good with update-rc.d . and coz rc.local runs from root /bin must works to.. |
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| 12:11.11 | superrorc | VM on digitalocean |
| 12:11.25 | superrorc | Linux orcmachine 3.2.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.2.54-2 i686 GNU/Linux |
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| 12:16.33 | bsdbeard | Why does it say "Package gspiceui is not available, but is referred to by another package" when I try to install gspiceui? |
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| 12:18.35 | jelly | !tell bsdbeard about basic apt troubleshooting |
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| 12:22.00 | bsdbeard | jelly, http://paste.debian.net/135034/ |
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| 12:26.08 | jelly | bsdbeard: right. So there is no gspiceui package available from the repos configured, but there are some other packages that depend on it some way or the other |
| 12:26.59 | jelly | ,v gspiceui |
| 12:27.00 | judd | Package: gspiceui on i386 -- squeeze: 0.9.98.dfsg-1; sid: 1.0.00+dfsg-1 |
| 12:27.19 | jelly | bsdbeard: apparently only available in sid |
| 12:27.20 | bsdbeard | oh it's only available for squeeze? |
| 12:27.25 | bsdbeard | ah |
| 12:27.34 | bsdbeard | that's weird |
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| 12:30.13 | jelly | and sid. That usually means "it's too buggy to even be included in a release" |
| 12:30.45 | jelly | ,v checkbackport gspiceui --fromrelease=sid |
| 12:30.46 | judd | No package named 'checkbackport' was found in i386. |
| 12:30.52 | jelly | ,checkbackport gspiceui --fromrelease=sid |
| 12:30.53 | judd | Backporting package gspiceui in sid→wheezy/i386: all build-dependencies satisfied using wheezy. |
| 12:31.07 | bsdbeard | so I can add sid sources and ocmpile it on wheezy? |
| 12:31.13 | jelly | bsdbeard: seems you could try doing a manual backport. See /msg dpkg ssb |
| 12:31.19 | bsdbeard | yeah |
| 12:31.22 | nopf | hi. software update pops up, i want the 'details' for some update. bottom line 'The developer logs will be shown as no description is available for this update:' |
| 12:31.25 | nopf | Failed to download the list of changes. Please check your Internet connection. |
| 12:31.26 | bsdbeard | shouldn't be too hard |
| 12:31.30 | jelly | nod |
| 12:31.40 | nopf | i'm sure i do have an internet connection. what's the remedy? |
| 12:31.50 | jelly | nopf: yeah, update-manager is quite broken on Debian |
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| 12:31.57 | k_sze | Hello. |
| 12:32.10 | k_sze | Is something wrong with the Hong Kong mirror? |
| 12:32.10 | simplew8 | could anyone point me how to remove bootp/boots from user rom? |
| 12:32.12 | Mr_Dern | hello Kira |
| 12:32.29 | k_sze | http://ftp.hk.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/contrib/source/Sources gives 404. |
| 12:32.30 | jelly | nopf: instead, install apt-listchanges and use aptitude for patching and upgrades. |
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| 12:32.52 | bsdbeard | jelly, is there an apt-get equivalent to ",checkbackport gspiceui --fromrelease=sid" so I can check if backporting is possible without asking judd? |
| 12:33.17 | jelly | bsdbeard: no, it's a bit of work |
| 12:33.29 | k_sze | hmm, actually that seems 404 on all mirrors. |
| 12:33.36 | jelly | bsdbeard: you can /msg judd checkbackport... |
| 12:34.13 | jelly | k_sze: but http://ftp.hk.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/contrib/source/Sources.gz is 200 Ok |
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| 12:34.27 | nopf | jelly: hmyeah, i'm using listchanges on some other systems. just checking if there was an easy solution with a bit more gui which works. this seems to be the state of things for quite a while, which astonishes me. thanks though |
| 12:34.44 | k_sze | jelly: 'apt-get update' is looking for Sources, not Sources.gz for some reason. |
| 12:34.47 | jelly | nopf: update-manager hasn't seen a lot of love on Debian |
| 12:35.02 | jelly | it basically only works well in Ubunut |
| 12:35.14 | jelly | k_sze: it looks for both. |
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| 12:35.32 | jelly | k_sze: or it's supposed to. |
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| 12:37.20 | nopf | jelly: well, 1) is it really update manager? ps only shows an 'update-notifier' and an 'gpk-update-viewer' 2) but this is a default debian install i think. so there is no good updating in pure debian? 3) and very strange the 'internet connection' thing. seems like only a minor breakage... |
| 12:37.32 | k_sze | that's strange |
| 12:37.53 | k_sze | both apt-get and aptitude say 404 for that one. |
| 12:38.01 | Guest87920 | can anyone tell me why doenst debian has something like Mageia Control Center? Or is it difficult to port it? Or why is there no such a thing on debian or fedora/redhat distros? |
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| 12:38.29 | nopf | jelly: ad 2) yes, the commandline updating is fine for me in general, but this gui comes by default with gnome, so i expect it to work better... |
| 12:38.48 | bsdbeard | Guest87920, what is mageia control center? |
| 12:38.55 | blackjack | in gui i like synaptics update |
| 12:39.23 | nopf | jelly: shall i just add this to 'annoying consequences of the multiple gnome versions confusions' which splits the rare developer resource? |
| 12:39.59 | Guest87920 | bsdbread: this http://doc.mageia.org/mcc/3/en/content/software-management.html |
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| 12:40.12 | Guest87920 | bsdbeard: this http://doc.mageia.org/mcc/3/en/content/software-management.html |
| 12:40.22 | jelly | nopf: sorry, I don't use gnome |
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| 12:40.46 | bsdbeard | Guest87920, looks like synaptic a bit? I don't know if there's a direct equivalent |
| 12:40.49 | jelly | explicitely downloaded and tried update-manager to see how well it worked |
| 12:41.38 | Brigo | i have not update-manager package in my system. |
| 12:41.59 | Guest87920 | bsdbeard: its more like windows control panel. now i wonder if windows control panel ist a ripoff of this mageia control center |
| 12:42.29 | boratynskikamil | Dear all; I have got one small trouble. I am trying to set up l2tp connection with a sever. It work very well on Windows, but I cannot set it up uing openl2tp. I got two states: WAITCTLREPLY and CLOSING. |
| 12:42.31 | boratynskikamil | Suggestions? |
| 12:42.40 | Guest87920 | synaptics is only for installing packages, this is differtent, its overal configuration |
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| 12:44.10 | bsdbeard | Guest87920, I think windows control panel existed before linux :-) I believe debian has gnome-control-center, but I'm not sure since I don't use gnome |
| 12:44.19 | Brigo | Guest87920, you can update the system and manage sources with synaptic too. |
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| 12:45.12 | Guest87920 | Brigo: yes i know but this is still different |
| 12:45.23 | Brigo | of course is different :) |
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| 12:46.29 | Brigo | i do not like synaptic very much, but it can do those things. |
| 12:47.47 | Guest87920 | bsdbeard: i havent used it yet extensively but to my impression mageia control center is slightly more advanced then gnome contol center. Yet not that extended as yast. |
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| 14:01.25 | n1md4 | hi. I have a problem with apt, updating security. "W: Failed to fetch http://security.debian.org/dists/wheezy/updates/main/source/Sources 404 Not Found [IP: 212.211.132.250 80]" |
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| 14:01.46 | n1md4 | i have other hosts on the same lan wit the same source.list, and they work. |
| 14:01.48 | n1md4 | any ideas? |
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| 14:04.02 | mtn | n1md4: this may give you an idea: http://security.debian.org/dists/wheezy/updates/main/source/ |
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| 14:05.26 | n1md4 | mtn: I can visit the page, using lynx, from the server... |
| 14:05.27 | n1md4 | weird |
| 14:06.06 | mtn | n1md4: notice it is not just Sources, but Sources.bz or .bz2. |
| 14:06.15 | joehh1 | babilen: extending my habits... |
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| 14:06.24 | n1md4 | mtn: what do you mean, sorry? |
| 14:06.47 | mathias__ | hi |
| 14:06.57 | mtn | n1md4: your link is not complete. the file name does not end with Sources, but Sources.gz or.... |
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| 14:07.29 | mathias__ | little Q : in ps aux i see this " bind 22102 0.0 1.9 48464 2600 ? Ssl Oct30 0:00 /usr/sbin/named -u bind " Is this only needed for NameServers or can I kill it ? |
| 14:08.18 | babilen | joehh1: \o/ |
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| 14:09.07 | n1md4 | mtn: that's just the output from apt, telling me the problem. |
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| 14:09.33 | babilen | n1md4: Could you paste the entire output of your update run to http://paste.debian.net and share it with us? |
| 14:09.40 | mtn | n1md4: yes, I know that. was just trying to help. |
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| 14:09.42 | n1md4 | babilen: sure, 2 ticks |
| 14:10.05 | n1md4 | mtn: appreciate it, just don't understand. thanks though |
| 14:10.15 | Mr_Dern | cd mapper |
| 14:10.20 | Mr_Dern | mp |
| 14:10.39 | bsdbeard | .exit |
| 14:10.44 | n1md4 | babilen: http://pastebin.com/7DCKr1cH |
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| 14:11.16 | babilen | dpkg: tell n1md4 -about pastebin.com |
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| 14:12.09 | n1md4 | babilen: http://paste.debian.net/135044/ |
| 14:12.09 | mathias__ | can i kill/remove the named or is that also needed to connect to the internet ? Cause it's using 30% of my RAM ._. |
| 14:12.14 | n1md4 | all the same to me :) |
| 14:12.43 | boratynskikamil | mathias__: No, named is not needed to connect to the Internet. |
| 14:13.05 | babilen | n1md4: cheers |
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| 14:13.11 | boratynskikamil | It is even, not needed to solve FQDNs. |
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| 14:13.41 | babilen | n1md4: Which version of apt is that? |
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| 14:14.38 | mathias__ | ok thanks boratynskikamil |
| 14:14.40 | ChrisH | mathias__: restart named should flush the cache |
| 14:15.10 | n1md4 | babilen: 0.9.7.9+deb7u6 |
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| 14:18.42 | karlpinc | mathias__: On the other hand, if /etc/resolv.conf points to 127.0.0.1 then it's looking for a local named. named can also boost performance. options {datasize NNN; } can be used to limit the amount of ram used. (And I think coresize too but I forget.) |
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| 14:18.51 | boratynskikamil | mathias__: If you do not want to PROVIDE DNS serwer, I really dunno, why you need named server. |
| 14:19.15 | karlpinc | boratynskikamil: It can be nice to have a local cache. Many ISPs nameservers really suck. |
| 14:19.20 | babilen | n1md4: Could you remove the sources.list entry for security, run apt-get update, then re-add it and try again? |
| 14:19.29 | n1md4 | babilen: sure |
| 14:19.30 | petn-randall | boratynskikamil: Many DNSBL are rate-limited, which forces you to use your own resolver. |
| 14:19.30 | boratynskikamil | karlpinc: Just use Google once. |
| 14:20.12 | mathias__ | it was standard installed on the VPS boratynskikamil |
| 14:20.12 | boratynskikamil | It is nice to have DNS server, if you have domains etc. :-) |
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| 14:20.23 | boratynskikamil | mathias__: Ouch, see. |
| 14:20.29 | n1md4 | babilen: wizard! that worked |
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| 14:20.35 | karlpinc | boratynskikamil: Yes, it all depends. A local cache can be good when there's bufferbloat too. YMMV. |
| 14:20.37 | n1md4 | what do you think that could have been then? |
| 14:20.38 | mathias__ | i do have domains |
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| 14:20.44 | mathias__ | i let Cloudflare handle them |
| 14:20.52 | mathias__ | tho they miss some options... but still |
| 14:20.54 | petn-randall | karlpinc: What? |
| 14:21.15 | mathias__ | also : what to do when " rsyslogd " uses too much RAM ? |
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| 14:21.25 | karlpinc | petn-randall: When the buffers on the local gateway fill with whatever it can delay dns queries. |
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| 14:22.19 | boratynskikamil | mathias__: Show me processes. |
| 14:22.25 | petn-randall | !tell mathias__ -about free ram |
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| 14:23.01 | petn-randall | karlpinc: Indeed, but usually your DNS server is on the local network. |
| 14:23.04 | babilen | n1md4: It essentially causes apt to refresh its lists ( /var/lib/apt/lists/ ), but I am not entirely sure what triggers this exact problem. It is probably related to the behaviour detailed in https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=669328 or similar codepaths, but I haven't quite been able to put my finger on it |
| 14:24.00 | karlpinc | petn-randall: It is for sure if you run bind. ;-) |
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| 14:24.42 | petn-randall | karlpinc: Are dnsmasq on any plastic router you have. |
| 14:24.48 | petn-randall | s/Are/Or/ |
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| 14:26.17 | karlpinc | Is there any comment on openbsd's replacement for bind? Just curious. |
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| 14:27.37 | mathias__ | boratynskikamil: - only running Apache 2 |
| 14:27.43 | mathias__ | root 1659 0.0 1.9 35972 2500 ? Sl Oct30 2:01 /usr/sbin/rsyslogd -c5 |
| 14:27.54 | mathias__ | out of 128MB ram |
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| 14:28.36 | mathias__ | on my other server it's also the same usage by rsyslogd - but that server has 1GB ram, so there it's less a "problem" |
| 14:29.14 | boratynskikamil | mathias__: free -m ? |
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| 14:30.08 | mathias__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:30.09 | mathias__ | Mem: 128 93 34 0 0 76 |
| 14:31.01 | mathias__ | hmm |
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| 14:31.48 | boratynskikamil | mathias__: |
| 14:31.49 | boratynskikamil | ps aux --sort rss |
| 14:31.52 | ChrisH | mathias__: use atop and check if there are colored lines... unless there are do not spend time on seeing problems which do not exists :) |
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| 14:32.49 | boratynskikamil | ChrisH: ++; |
| 14:33.51 | mathias__ | k ChrisH thx |
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| 14:34.00 | mathias__ | tho htop seems easier with settings etc |
| 14:34.59 | mardraum | karlpinc: unbound isn't openbsd specific. |
| 14:35.42 | ChrisH | mathias__: atop simply shows yellow and/or red lines to show potential issues to invest deeper |
| 14:35.42 | karlpinc | mathias__: If you're really worried about ram perhaps run emdebian. |
| 14:36.00 | mardraum | if you are worried abour ram, get more. |
| 14:36.05 | mardraum | about* |
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| 14:36.46 | mardraum | and don't think you can run apache with all sorts of extra crap on your 128M $cheap VM |
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| 14:37.42 | mathias__ | i don't mardraum |
| 14:37.52 | mathias__ | got some with only apache running |
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| 14:38.01 | mathias__ | and another one with other stuff so i have lighttpd |
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| 14:39.23 | mathias__ | the max i got out of one of my VPS's mardraum , was ZNC + eggdrop + lighttpd + squid3 lol |
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| 14:40.43 | mathias__ | gonna grab some food and go to the cinema. Thanks for the lep boratynskikamil , ChrisH & the rest :) |
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| 14:52.27 | JPT | Hey, i'm a little lost. I am interested in all messages and status infos about this bug: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=746596 |
| 14:52.57 | JPT | This just seems to have one message, is there anything more that i can see somewhere about this issue? |
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| 14:55.48 | petn-randall | JPT: If anyone would have responded to this bug, you would see it on that page. |
| 14:55.57 | JPT | oh. that's sad |
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| 14:56.46 | JPT | i guess i will have to try and use an older version of grub then :/ |
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| 14:57.17 | JPT | my hardware does not like hdds 1tb+ and my hdds are 3tb, so grub cannot assemble the raid on them |
| 14:58.19 | petn-randall | JPT: What do you mean with "my hardware does not like hdds 1tb+"? |
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| 14:58.51 | JPT | it's an old motherboard from 2009 or earlier ;) |
| 14:58.59 | _val_ | Hello. Is it possible to connect to a fortigate 200b hardware firewall using any native linux client? I've tried forticlient but it is not working. The fortigate firewall is configured to accept Encryption AES256 with SHA512 auth method? |
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| 14:59.06 | JPT | so the bios just tells grub "yeah, it's probably a 1tb hdd" |
| 14:59.17 | JPT | grub believes the bios and therefore is unable to assemble the raid |
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| 14:59.41 | JPT | using the disk module ata, grub takes care of the disks by itself, sees their real size and everything is fine |
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| 15:00.19 | petn-randall | JPT: Never noticed this problem because most of my installations have a small /boot. |
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| 15:00.49 | JPT | my /boot is on / in a 50G partition... but it still is an issue, because i put the raid over the whole drive. |
| 15:01.33 | JPT | i should probably have known better |
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| 15:04.47 | ChrisH | _val_: I do not know that Fortigate Thing, but all Firewalls I know use ssh and/or https to configure. Anything that needs a nativ client cannot be put into a Datacenter setup |
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| 15:08.35 | kombi | trying to connect a box to 3 uplinks and am stumped... Would a real networking wrench on here want to take a look? http://pastebin.com/7QKfqDUf |
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| 15:10.00 | petn-randall | kombi: What is your question? |
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| 15:10.30 | kombi | petn-randall: eth0 does not accept the given ip |
| 15:10.36 | kombi | (sorry) |
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| 15:10.52 | petn-randall | kombi: What error message do you get? |
| 15:11.37 | kombi | petn-randall: traceroute follows it all the way to the router, connecting i.e. a laptop that ip works fine |
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| 15:12.19 | petn-randall | kombi: But what is the error you get? |
| 15:12.42 | petn-randall | kombi: Do you mean pinging the IP times out? |
| 15:12.52 | kombi | petn-randall: yes, sorry |
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| 15:13.19 | petn-randall | kombi: Can you show the output of 'ip route show all tables' on http://paste.debian.net. |
| 15:13.22 | petn-randall | ? |
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| 15:13.30 | kombi | petn-randall: coming |
| 15:13.36 | petn-randall | kombi: Cool, thanks. |
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| 15:14.32 | petn-randall | kombi: I'm guessing you have a routing problem. You can verify that by runing tshark/tcpdump and looking if an ICMP echo request with the wrong source IP is generated. |
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| 15:15.08 | kombi | petn-randall: http://paste.debian.net/135058/ |
| 15:15.16 | kombi | petn-randall: good idea! |
| 15:15.53 | petn-randall | kombi: And you're ping which IP? |
| 15:16.01 | petn-randall | s/ping/pinging/ |
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| 15:16.05 | kombi | petn-randall: 92.50.110.13 |
| 15:17.16 | petn-randall | kombi: For one, you don't have any default route, AFAICS. |
| 15:18.03 | kombi | petn-randall: whoops, my bad, last line didn't make it into pastbin, just a sec |
| 15:18.38 | kombi | petn-randall: http://paste.debian.net/135060/ |
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| 15:18.49 | petn-randall | kombi: I meant to say 'ip route show table all', sorry. |
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| 15:19.15 | kombi | petn-randall: ;) I was wondering... just a moment |
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| 15:20.34 | kombi | petn-randall: now there is some output!;) http://paste.debian.net/135061/ |
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| 15:21.54 | kombi | petn-randall: can't make head or tail of it though... |
| 15:22.06 | petn-randall | kombi: Yeah, you're missing a default route for eth0, which is why you'll see the ICMP echo reply probably going out from another interface, with a different IP. |
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| 15:22.15 | _val_ | ChrisH: One of our partners uses Fortigate firewall and has configured the firewall so we can connect. They probably thought we were using Windows which is not the case. The authentication method they are using is a Preshared Key, using a DH Group 2 and the above mentioned encryption method aes256 respectively sha512. |
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| 15:23.01 | kombi | petn_randall: THAT explains it! So I need to add one for eth0... thank you so much! |
| 15:23.01 | _val_ | The openvpn client cannot be configured to meet their requirements. Nor can I use other NM extensions as pptp or similar. |
| 15:23.44 | petn-randall | kombi: Configuring multiple uplinks is not for the faint of heart. I recommend using shorewall for that, and reading their howto on http://shorewall.net/MultiISP.html |
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| 15:24.08 | Simplar | hello, anybody of you have any idea how to make a wifi driver for MEDIATEK Corp. MT7630e 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter work on linux debian 7.7 wheezy kernel 3.16? |
| 15:24.09 | Simplar | thanks |
| 15:24.24 | [E]sc | i'm getting huge static in my audio when i play certain video files using vlc. Is there a fix for this? i'm on wheezy, 7.6, alsa 3.2.0-4-amd64, FCH Azalia device controller |
| 15:24.33 | kombi | petn-randall: I noticed..;) Heard of shorewall also, but here I might be fine with another post-up command (hopefully) |
| 15:24.47 | petn-randall | kombi: petn<tab>, I don't get highlighted if you use different symbols ... ;) |
| 15:25.34 | kombi | petn-randall: I'm on epic4, highlighted? ;) |
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| 15:26.02 | petn-randall | kombi: What is epic4? |
| 15:26.04 | ChrisH | _val_: you are talking about VPN via Fortigate... Dunno |
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| 15:27.06 | kombi | petn-randall: cli irc client (very basic) |
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| 15:28.06 | _val_ | ChrisH: well, there is a forticlientvpn which I am using for the connection but it is a very basic client. I cannot configure anything except the IP addres, port , username and password. Seems it has |
| 15:28.15 | kombi | petn-randall: ahm... along what lines should the instruction for the extra default route be? |
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| 15:28.53 | _val_ | ....has no support for any auth method. But I'll just give up. |
| 15:30.06 | petn-randall | kombi: Depends on how you added the first 3 default routes. 'ip route add default dev eth0' might do it, but might delete a route from another device in the process. |
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| 15:37.19 | kombi | petn-randall: just did "ip route add default via 92.50.110.9 dev eth0 table rt5" but to now avail |
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| 15:37.55 | Amateras1 | hello? |
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| 15:38.15 | kombi | petn-randall: that route should be added in network/interfaces, yet it does not "arrive", strange indeed |
| 15:39.00 | jelly | Amateras1: yes hello. |
| 15:39.05 | jelly | This is dog. |
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| 15:40.53 | kombi | petn-randall: line 14 in http://paste.debian.net/135065/ now has it, maybe I'm on a hiding to nothing |
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| 15:41.58 | Alina-malina | hmmm should i add my .log file to logrotate.conf with {parameters}? or here: /etc/logrotate.d/dpkg ? |
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| 15:43.02 | intuxicated | how i can install qt5.x in debian wheezy ? |
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| 15:49.45 | jhutchins | Alina-malina: You shouldn't add it to dpkg, that is for rotating the dpkg logs and is managed by the package manager. Either use logrotate.conf or create a unique file (probably labled with your program's name) in logrotate.d |
| 15:50.22 | hjolt | Anyone know of a good markdown viewer for offline use ? |
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| 15:55.48 | petn-randall | kombi: Read about the 'routefilter' and 'routeback' in http://shorewall.fi/manpages/shorewall-interfaces.html. You might have to find the corresponding /proc entries for them and set those. |
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| 16:04.48 | brentaarnold | I'm trying to install TeamViewer 9/10 on Debian Jessie but have found myself in somewhat of a dependency pickle: ia32-libs must be installed, but depends on ia32-libs-i386, but is not installable. |
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| 16:05.21 | brentaarnold | Or should I say, the ia32-libs-i386 package is not installable. |
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| 16:06.30 | jelly | dpkg, tell brentaarnold about upgrade ia32 libs |
| 16:06.56 | Nik05 | brentaarnold we have multiarch now |
| 16:07.10 | brentaarnold | jelly: Nik05: TYVM |
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| 16:22.18 | jhutchins | ,v tsclient |
| 16:22.19 | judd | Package: tsclient on i386 -- squeeze: 0.150-4 |
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| 16:22.32 | Swat-xt | -- http://www.indiedb.com/games/dexterity-ball-3d/downloads/dexterty-ball-3d-version-089 -- |
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| 16:25.12 | user__ | exit |
| 16:26.25 | jelly | jhutchins: tsclient still works in wheezy, but dependencies break with jessie |
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| 16:35.40 | knosys | Hello |
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| 16:36.08 | knosys | Guys if I want to automatically run a bash script when my user login in the system, where should be located? |
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| 16:36.28 | knosys | It is a very simple command that i have to run it manually at every startup, i would like to avoid that |
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| 16:37.20 | knosys | I wonder if /etc/init.d/ is for everyuser? I want it to run only when my user login |
| 16:37.41 | jelly | knosys: it's only for root. |
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| 16:38.10 | knosys | the command I need to run doesnt need root access |
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| 16:38.32 | jelly | knosys: do you run the command at startup, or when you log in? What if you log in remotely via ssh, does it need to run then? |
| 16:39.03 | knosys | after login. no, only in local machine |
| 16:39.18 | knosys | its startx command |
| 16:39.41 | jelly | knosys: then investigate autostart and session management in the Desktop Environment you use (gnome, xfce, kde) |
| 16:40.02 | knosys | i have no DE, but a window manager |
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| 16:41.13 | jelly | knosys: why not use a tiny login manager, like slim |
| 16:41.37 | knosys | I want to learn how to run any script after user login in debian anyway |
| 16:41.56 | knosys | Its usefull to automatize tasks |
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| 16:42.54 | jelly | knosys: ok, but that's not the same as "automatically running startx after login at console" and the optimal solution may differ |
| 16:43.21 | knosys | i think the optimal solution is what i want to do |
| 16:43.48 | jelly | what I'm saying is you asked for two different things. |
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| 16:44.10 | knosys | i want to keep debian login, and I want everything in the same way is it now... I just want to automatize a command that i must type every time |
| 16:44.32 | knosys | Jelly, really? |
| 16:44.33 | Noveau | wy not run a script at startup |
| 16:44.34 | jelly | knosys: if you want to start X, use a login manager. If you want to start stuff at login, put them in your login shell's rc files (.bash_profile if it's bash) |
| 16:44.43 | Noveau | upon a specific user login opens the program |
| 16:44.45 | knosys | I want to run a command automatically when my user login, that is what i asked |
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| 16:45.09 | jelly | knosys: but you said you only want it if you login at the console, and you don't want it when you login from ssh |
| 16:45.10 | knosys | Noveau: yeah I would like to do that |
| 16:45.19 | Noveau | well..time to get coding |
| 16:45.29 | Noveau | there is no-copypasta solution |
| 16:45.34 | Noveau | you need to write your own :x |
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| 16:46.42 | knosys | jelly: Maybe I went wrong, sorry |
| 16:46.47 | jelly | knosys: so, put stuff in ~/.bash_profile, and check for output of `tty` to see if you're at console and of $SHLVL to see if it's really a login shell. |
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| 16:47.16 | jelly | but if your goal is really to start X, use something like xdm. |
| 16:47.58 | knosys | Why? |
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| 16:48.09 | Noveau | its easier. |
| 16:48.11 | jelly | knosys: because it's what it's made for |
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| 16:48.48 | jelly | also, because junk in shell's rc files can bite you in the ass if you're not careful |
| 16:48.53 | knosys | But will login become graphical with that? |
| 16:48.57 | jelly | yes. |
| 16:49.21 | knosys | I will try to run .sh file |
| 16:49.32 | knosys | I will be carefull |
| 16:49.39 | Noveau | lol create a dummy user |
| 16:49.41 | Noveau | to test it |
| 16:49.46 | knosys | I have a very limited download limit, dont want many new packages |
| 16:49.48 | jelly | good idea. |
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| 16:50.08 | jelly | knosys: you can apt-get -s install stuff |
| 16:50.09 | knosys | yes, thanks Noveau I will do that |
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| 16:50.47 | jelly | to see how many files it would grab |
| 16:50.49 | knosys | is that to check dependancy and file sizes? |
| 16:50.52 | knosys | before installing? |
| 16:51.06 | jelly | it's a dry run, just shows what would be done |
| 16:51.07 | knosys | I see |
| 16:51.16 | knosys | thanks you |
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| 16:52.23 | ChrisH | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=770133 gcalcli 2.x is no longer compatible with google's api <-- what is the expected way for the fix? via unstable -> testing -> stable ? Or will the fix not make it into stable and keep gcalcli unusable on stable? |
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| 16:53.00 | jelly | ChrisH: politely request a backport? |
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| 16:53.59 | jelly | pulls in quite a number of deps |
| 16:54.18 | ChrisH | jelly: The the normal way is unstable -> testing -> Next stable? Just for my understanding |
| 16:54.50 | jelly | yes. |
| 16:55.17 | ChrisH | break a lot of my way of working |
| 16:55.25 | jelly | well, packages flow unstable -> testing, and then testing at some point _becomes_ stable |
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| 16:58.04 | me-1 | hi...when is next Debian stable release and what it is called |
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| 16:58.54 | jelly | me-1: Debian 8, codename "jessie" will be released When It's Ready. Debian has no fixed released schedules. |
| 16:58.58 | gics | hello, today i discovered the hard way the new iceweasel gnome keyring integration, now i have no more password saved in browser or icedove.. |
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| 16:59.35 | gics | lucky i have a backup from 2 days ago but i'm not able to restore all the passwords |
| 16:59.59 | gics | i'm on sid if that could help |
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| 17:05.13 | jelly | gics: for testing and sid, best ask on irc.oftc.net, channel #debian-next |
| 17:05.36 | gics | jelly, thank you! |
| 17:05.59 | jelly | gics: did you check the bug reports to see if this was reported already? Read README.Debian? |
| 17:07.01 | gics | jelly, not looked in bug-reports but google can't help me so much |
| 17:07.20 | gics | jelly, everything happen after a dist-upgrade |
| 17:07.35 | jelly | remember that sid is for people that want to help reporting and fixing bugs |
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| 17:07.50 | gics | jelly, and to be honest i don't know where is the README.Debian you mean :P |
| 17:08.07 | jelly | gics: always in /usr/share/doc/packagename/ |
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| 17:09.56 | gics | jelly, thanks for the path now i only need to understand which package is, gnome-keyring? iceweasel? but i think maybe it's better if i switch channel and try to listen some other sid users |
| 17:10.08 | gics | jelly, thanks again for your reply |
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| 17:12.11 | Term1nal | argh, so I'm still dealing with this oddity with my debian box. Has 2 NICs, and each is connected to a separate physical network. I don't need to bridge the two together, one network is going to be used for management, the other goes out to the WAN behind a router/firewall. I am unable to get the second interface to work. I can ping that interface remotely, I can SSH into the box via that interface, but I cannot ping or connect OUT from that interface. |
| 17:12.12 | Term1nal | IPtables is empty accept all, routing looks as one would expect. Hoping for some insight. Relevant info: http://pastebin.com/c4GimcB4 |
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| 17:14.28 | jelly | Term1nal: show your "ip r" and "ip a" outputs, use http://paste.debian.net |
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| 17:15.09 | jelly | Term1nal: and "iptables-save" for good measure, just to confirm it's empty |
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| 17:17.02 | Term1nal | http://paste.debian.net/hidden/87a1657a/ |
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| 17:18.12 | mc_fail | hi guys, does anoyone have some problems with ssl in iceweasel? |
| 17:18.22 | mc_fail | (in unstable) |
| 17:18.41 | Term1nal | oh and iptables-save: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/d6e21493/ |
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| 17:19.08 | mc_fail | i have the error "The server rejected the handshake because the client downgraded to a lower TLS version than the server supports." |
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| 17:19.38 | mc_fail | but my server supports every version of tls, and sslv3 or sslv2 disable |
| 17:20.03 | Term1nal | it said that the client downgraded it, so that'd be your browser |
| 17:20.20 | jelly | Term1nal: two default routes? Not a good idea unless you know EXACTLY what you're doing |
| 17:20.42 | Term1nal | I tend to think I know pretty well what I'm doing :P |
| 17:20.56 | Term1nal | The two interfaces are connected to two entirely separate networks. |
| 17:21.01 | gics | mc_fail, i saw something about removing sslv3 support during today dist-upgrade but i don't remember it very well, only something about BEAST vuln |
| 17:21.55 | jelly | Term1nal: sure, but you don't need two default routes unless you're multihomed and have two connections to the internets. |
| 17:21.59 | Term1nal | once the two interfaces WORK, I need to set a vmbr0 bridge to eth1, that VMs will be bound to, the eth0 interface will be used as a management port. |
| 17:22.10 | jelly | Term1nal: and if you do, you need policy-based routing |
| 17:22.38 | Term1nal | Like I said, they're two physically separate networks, |
| 17:22.44 | jelly | Term1nal: remove the "gateway" line from iface eth0 stanzas in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 17:22.49 | jelly | Term1nal: so what? |
| 17:23.05 | jelly | Term1nal: a mgt network is not a connection to internet. |
| 17:23.13 | Term1nal | Well, it is. |
| 17:23.38 | Term1nal | updates will come in over eth0 and such |
| 17:23.49 | jelly | updates for what? |
| 17:23.55 | Term1nal | package updates. |
| 17:24.07 | jelly | you need policy-based routing then. |
| 17:24.22 | Term1nal | I tried another setup as well before, with similar results. |
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| 17:24.53 | jelly | so that connections coming in from eth1 get tagged and know they have to go out the same way |
| 17:24.58 | brentaarnold | I'm trying to install TeamViewer in Debian Jessie. Getting dependency ia32-libs, but it was not installable. After performing this fix: https://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/amd64/release-notes/ch-upgrading#ia32libs. However, I'm back to the same starting point. Here is a paste of the current problem: http://paste.debian.net/135087/ |
| 17:25.24 | jelly | Term1nal: http://lartc.org/howto/lartc.rpdb.multiple-links.html |
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| 17:25.50 | Term1nal | jelly: this was my previous attempt: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/3fbfc49b/ |
| 17:26.04 | Term1nal | which is the polcy-based one. |
| 17:26.08 | Term1nal | just as that link you described. |
| 17:26.39 | knosys | jelly: SHLVL to see if it's really a login shell. I am reading about this. If its the first instance it want be 0? |
| 17:27.01 | Term1nal | jelly: infact, I tried that nearly exact setup, with that same link, minus the load balancing bit at the end. |
| 17:27.18 | jelly | knosys: I think it's 1 |
| 17:27.26 | knosys | then everytime I open a SHLVL , it will be incremented, so will avoid the if condition |
| 17:27.28 | Term1nal | in each configuration I've tried, the same result, I can connect in but not out. |
| 17:27.32 | knosys | I see, starts at 1. Thanks |
| 17:28.00 | knosys | sorry, i mean "everytime i open a terminal" |
| 17:28.01 | jelly | Term1nal: do you specify the source ip address when you try to connect out? |
| 17:28.35 | Term1nal | jelly: I specify the source interface, if that's what you mean? |
| 17:28.38 | jelly | yes |
| 17:28.46 | Term1nal | like for example: ping -c 4 -I eth1 8.8.8.8 |
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| 17:29.19 | ChrisH | brentaarnold: You need the teamviewer 32-Bit / 64-Bit Multiarch Version from http://www.teamviewer.com/de/download/linux.aspx / I installed the 9.0.32150 which has no dependency on ia32libs |
| 17:29.35 | jelly | Term1nal: and can you confirm with tcpdump that the traffic goes out on the right iface with right source ip? |
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| 17:29.43 | Term1nal | yes, I have. |
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| 17:29.50 | knosys | jelly I have a question. What if i create a new session (Ctrl + alt + F2) and I login with my user, but i dont want the script to be runned in that new session. I guess I can define that in my .sh script too, right? |
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| 17:30.55 | jelly | knosys: sure, you could check so that "`tty`" was exactly "/dev/tty1" and nothing else |
| 17:31.15 | jelly | Term1nal: weird |
| 17:31.19 | knosys | Oh thats amazing. Thanks so much |
| 17:31.21 | Term1nal | jelly: I know :( |
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| 17:32.00 | Term1nal | jelly: Just for sanity sake: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/d69731e2/ |
| 17:32.06 | jelly | Term1nal: best go ask in #netfilter then, I only did the basic stuff and it Worked For Me™ |
| 17:32.14 | brentaarnold | ChrisH: Thankyou so very much. |
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| 17:33.38 | grobda24 | Hi, I just installed CUPS and everything seems to be running OK, but the localhost interface never asks me for a login for admin tasks, just says "Unauthorized. Enter your username and password or the root username and password to access this page. If you are using Kerberos authentication, make sure you have a valid Kerberos ticket." |
| 17:34.08 | grobda24 | The browser does not offer a dialogue for the user/pass |
| 17:34.10 | [3]nertia | Is it possible to run a Debian cluster over the internet? Like, have the master node access the rest of the cluster over the internet? |
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| 17:36.30 | yaronr | guys, I'm installing rsyslog on a debian (wheezy) using apt-get. I would like the rsyslog service to start automatically. how do I do that? |
| 17:36.43 | yaronr | PS, it's a dockerfile |
| 17:36.52 | yaronr | tried RUN update-rc.d rsyslog enable |
| 17:37.00 | yaronr | still, [ - ] rsyslog |
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| 17:37.45 | jelly | yaronr: isn't rsyslog installed by default? |
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| 17:38.35 | yaronr | jelly: it's a dockerfile, so I'm installing it: https://registry.hub.docker.com/u/yaronr/haproxy-confd/dockerfile/ |
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| 17:38.54 | jelly | yaronr: I've no idea what that even means! |
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| 17:39.01 | marioxcc | Hello. |
| 17:39.08 | yaronr | I (think) know that in Ubuntu, installing using apt-get also starts the service. but not in debian |
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| 17:39.33 | yaronr | jelly: ignore the docker stuff. assume I'm doing the apt-get install rsyslog. |
| 17:39.40 | marioxcc | I noticed that xdelta3 has a -dfsg version. How can I know what was changed to make it compliant with the dfsg?. |
| 17:39.54 | yaronr | jelly: what do I do so that the next time I reboot that machine, rsyslog runs as a service? |
| 17:41.10 | Term1nal | jelly: I feel like a complete assbag. |
| 17:41.44 | Term1nal | I trusted that my colleague configured the router properly. |
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| 17:42.04 | Term1nal | No, his outbound rule for that network segment was only specified for TCP |
| 17:42.07 | Term1nal | and not any protocol. |
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| 17:42.30 | Term1nal | so it WAS working... the damned router wasn't passing ICMP |
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| 17:43.00 | Term1nal | furthermore, he didn't specify an outbound NAT rule at all. |
| 17:43.14 | Term1nal | so even if it passed ICMP out, there was no way for the responses to get in. |
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| 17:43.47 | marioxcc | I noticed that xdelta3 has a -dfsg version. How can I know what was changed to make it compliant with the dfsg?. |
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| 17:47.03 | adilix | hi all |
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| 17:47.49 | knosys | Do you guys think this condition is allright? if [ $(tty) == /dev/tty1 ] && [ $SHLVL == 1 ]; then |
| 17:47.53 | adilix | is there any way to run appinventor 2 on debian 7.7? i can't start the app because of GLIBC 2.15 |
| 17:48.25 | jabroney | yaronr: I think the docker part is key - depends on the init system used in the docker image. |
| 17:48.26 | ubuntu0001 | Can I run debian on the Nexus 7? Ubuntu has a working kernel and drivers but stopped supporting it in later releases |
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| 17:49.12 | yaronr | jabroney assuming I'm inside this host, how do I check which init system is used? |
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| 17:53.40 | jabroney | yaronr: Not sure - new to docker. I think your entrypoint acts as the init. This may explain better: http://phusion.github.io/baseimage-docker/ |
| 17:53.49 | felix_mc | can I determine where stdout and stderr point to within a bash script? |
| 17:54.01 | petn-randall | adilix: No. Either compile from source or tell the appinventor folks to compile against an older glibc version. |
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| 17:54.15 | adilix | petn-randall ok thx |
| 17:54.21 | petn-randall | !thx |
| 17:54.21 | dpkg | THX (R), the next generation surround sound, developed by a George Lucas company. (mplayer is not certified), or just say "Thanks" |
| 17:54.28 | petn-randall | :D |
| 17:54.32 | adilix | :) |
| 17:54.36 | adilix | !thx |
| 17:54.36 | dpkg | THX (R), the next generation surround sound, developed by a George Lucas company. (mplayer is not certified), or just say "Thanks" |
| 17:54.42 | adilix | yeaa |
| 17:55.36 | adilix | ok thtx for help cya bye bye |
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| 17:56.51 | brontosaurusrex | !ty |
| 17:56.51 | dpkg | [ty] #del# |
| 17:57.02 | abrotman | please play with the bot in msg |
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| 17:58.14 | Term1nal | knosys: why not (( $SHLVL == 1 )) ? |
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| 17:58.46 | marioxcc | I noticed that xdelta3 has a -dfsg version. How can I know what was changed to make it compliant with the dfsg?. |
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| 17:59.59 | knosys | Term1nal: I am not sure that $SHLVL works ... i try to echo the value in a terminal and I have no valid results |
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| 18:00.12 | iluminator105 | hi ./xulrunner-bin: /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.14' not found (required by /home/iluminator101/Downloads/rssowl/xulrunner/libxul.so) |
| 18:00.36 | knosys | Anyway, you meaning that line replacing the both arguments I used⇧ |
| 18:00.37 | knosys | ? |
| 18:00.43 | greycat | knosys: it's in "man bash". |
| 18:01.02 | knosys | Oh , thanks greycat, ill look for it |
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| 18:03.43 | marioxcc | I noticed that xdelta3 has a -dfsg version. How can I know what was changed to make it compliant with the dfsg?. |
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| 18:04.01 | knosys | jelly: what I want is it to be executed in a login shell, and making sure that it is an interactive shell? am I right? |
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| 18:19.04 | iluminator105 | ./xulrunner-bin: /usr/lib64/libstdc++.so.6: version `GLIBCXX_3.4.14' not found (required by /home/iluminator101/Downloads/rssowl/xulrunner/libxul.so |
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| 18:19.56 | knosys | re |
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| 18:22.26 | greycat | iluminator105: I have GLIBCXX_3.4.14 in wheezy's libstdc++6 library |
| 18:22.40 | Mr_Dern | test for connection |
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| 18:54.57 | hunt_ | my usb mouse isnt being recognized for some reason |
| 18:55.07 | hunt_ | is there any way to check if my computer even sees it as a device at all? |
| 18:55.25 | greycat | After pyugging it into the USB port, you should see *something* from the kernel at the end of "dmesg". |
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| 18:56.58 | greycat | (Which I believe is also logged in /var/log/kern.log or something... but you need root to read that, which is weird.) |
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| 18:57.43 | hunt_ | ok i do see the usb connect and disconnect |
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| 18:58.28 | hunt_ | although i feel like there should be something more... it doesnt pick up that its a ouse or anything its just a one line notice that a usb device hasbeen connected |
| 18:58.55 | greycat | I'd try a different mouse. Maybe that one's just broken. |
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| 18:59.11 | hunt_ | could this have something to do with my xorg.conf files? i have a config for my touchpad, perhaps thats overriding it? |
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| 18:59.26 | hunt_ | greycat: i dont have anoyther mouse, however i can say this mouse works on my desktop |
| 18:59.31 | greycat | X config should not prevent the kernel from recognizing another device |
| 19:00.07 | hunt_ | thats very strange then |
| 19:00.19 | hunt_ | if the mouse isnt broken, is there anything else we can do? |
| 19:00.28 | marioxcc | Hello. Is there a web forum software that uses database transactions?. |
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| 19:01.22 | greycat | marioxcc: you're still asking this? That's like asking for a program written in C that doesn't use sprintf(). It's such a low-level oddball request. Any sensibly written program should fulfill it. |
| 19:01.45 | greycat | Nobody knows which C programs, and which web forum programs, do or do not have such bugs in them. |
| 19:02.20 | greycat | If you've found one that has all the features you want, but has this bug in the database backend code, either fix it yourself, or post a bug report to the software's authors. |
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| 19:03.15 | marioxcc | greycat: It's not a simple bug to fix and it has a big impact on consistency when crashes happen. You're entitled to disagree, but for me data consistency is important. |
| 19:03.31 | greycat | Take it up with the authors of the broken software. |
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| 19:04.02 | petn-randall | marioxcc: Pretty much *every* web forum software uses database transactions? It's probably easier to list the cases that don't fulfil this. |
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| 19:04.36 | greycat | What's weird is he's been asking this for at least the last 24 hours, and he seems to think #debian would know the answer. |
| 19:04.49 | marioxcc | petn-randall: That's simply not the case. Maybe you're not aware that "transaction" has a specific meaning for databases. |
| 19:04.59 | greycat | Oh, and he's arrogant too? Lord. |
| 19:05.05 | abrotman | greycat: yes, he is |
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| 19:06.20 | abrotman | marioxcc: I'm not aware of a single one that uses DB transactions. I don't think most "forums" developers care much about that part of the DB interworkings |
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| 19:06.51 | marioxcc | abrotman: Ok, thanks for your answer. |
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| 19:08.09 | abrotman | marioxcc: The only place I think the average web dev cares about transactions is at the sale point, perhaps I'm wrong. |
| 19:08.28 | petn-randall | marioxcc: I'm fully aware of that. The database should be consistent even after a crash. The question is if forum developers correctly use transactions to group queries together that should be atomic. That's probably not an easy question to answer with yes or no. |
| 19:08.53 | marioxcc | petn-randall: right. |
| 19:09.00 | abrotman | marioxcc: at least, explicit transactions .. Of course, most of them use MySQL anyway, so what's the point :) |
| 19:09.39 | marioxcc | abrotman: Right, it seems like most won't bother to use transactions properly. |
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| 19:09.57 | abrotman | "Oh noes, my comment went missing when the DB disappeared" |
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| 19:10.33 | marioxcc | What free software file differencing programs are there apart from xdelta, open-vcdiff and bsdiff?. |
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| 19:11.24 | greycat | There's also diff. |
| 19:11.34 | greycat | And diff3. |
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| 19:11.41 | abrotman | !search |
| 19:11.42 | dpkg | Please search for things rather than just asking, e.g. «apt-cache search regex», or with <aptitude search>. The following ways can locate packages that own a file (installed, or candidate for install): «dpkg -S /bin/foo», <apt-file>, <pdo> (online) and «/msg judd help file» (bot). <search dpkg> for factoids. See http://wiki.debian.org/WhereIsIt and ask me about <bot help>. See also <axi-search> <debtags> <dlocate>. |
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| 19:13.35 | tichassfront | What do you think, guys? http://payripo.com/?share=7073 Is this real or just another bullshit? |
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| 19:15.05 | jelly-home | it's real spam alright |
| 19:15.18 | greycat | It looked like spam, so I didn't click. I believe you. |
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| 19:19.53 | XeBlackWater | is away: I'm busy |
| 19:20.27 | marioxcc | Are there *binary* file differencing free software programs apart from xdelta, xdelta3, and bsdiff?. Xdelta3 doesn't seems to work very well on large files. Is there a program like this that handles large files better?. |
| 19:20.46 | jelly-home | XeBlackWater: please avoid using away announcements in this public channel. |
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| 19:24.38 | felix_mc | does debian's nohup not support "-o" and "-e"? |
| 19:25.24 | greycat | what are those supposed to do? |
| 19:26.15 | felix_mc | -o inherits stdout instead of putting in to ~/nohup.out |
| 19:26.18 | felix_mc | and -e is same for stderr |
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| 19:27.10 | felix_mc | they are mentioned in "info nohup" but not "man nohup" |
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| 19:27.47 | greycat | Ah yes, GNU man pages. So GNU. |
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| 19:29.11 | jelly-home | itym GNU _info_ pages \o/ |
| 19:29.26 | felix_mc | how can I make nohup inherit stdout? is there an env or argument that points to the current stdout so that I can do something like "nohup >$stdout &" |
| 19:29.37 | greycat | No, he was reading the man page and it didn't mention those options at all. |
| 19:29.48 | greycat | Though I don't know what he actually wants yet. |
| 19:30.21 | AlexLikeRock | i like debian :-) |
| 19:30.38 | petn-randall | AlexLikeRock: Good to know! So do we. |
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| 19:31.02 | AlexLikeRock | love debia too |
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| 19:33.24 | teraflops | AlexLikeRock: you like rock ;P |
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| 19:33.36 | AlexLikeRock | hs ha a |
| 19:33.40 | teraflops | ;) |
| 19:33.52 | jelly-home | is jelly |
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| 19:36.26 | felix_mc | greycat: I have a script that calls nohup. If the user passes a stdout or stderr to my script, I want those forwarded to nohup. otherwise I want nohup stdout/err to go to /dev/null |
| 19:37.15 | greycat | What if the user DOESN'T redirect stdout/stderr? Will they be a terminal? Or are you trying to cover the case where a user invokes it from crontab or something? |
| 19:37.22 | debia | alexlist: lol |
| 19:37.29 | debia | oh, he left |
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| 19:37.51 | felix_mc | greycat: it's because most times I don't care about stdout/err. but if the user does care, I want them to have the option to redirect it |
| 19:38.23 | greycat | If all you want to do is ignore SIGHUP but not have all the other semantics of nohup(1) like automatic redirection, maybe you should just ignore HUP instead of calling nohup. |
| 19:39.29 | felix_mc | greycat: exactly what I want to do. I just want to detach a command from the current shell |
| 19:39.49 | greycat | bash also has "disown" |
| 19:39.55 | jelly-home | offers felix_mc the "disown" builtin |
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| 19:40.12 | felix_mc | greycat: I'm going to look into that |
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| 19:41.00 | jelly-home | it won't magically disconnect the command's std{in,out,err} tho |
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| 19:41.25 | greycat | He wants stdin/stdout/stderr untouched, so that's good. |
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| 19:43.13 | greycat | He was asking how to get wheezy's nohup (I think he meant wheezy) to NOT auto-redirect stdout/stderr. |
| 19:43.29 | greycat | Simple answer: don't use nohup. |
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| 19:48.50 | felix_mc | greycat: indeed using wheezy |
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| 19:50.05 | felix_mc | so disown just ignored HUP on the last job? |
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| 20:26.00 | Aleric | How can I make gst-launch-1.0 the default when I type 'gst-launch'? Or, what is the normal way to reconfigure a debian package and set its alternatives? |
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| 20:26.31 | greycat | update-alternatives --config whatever |
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| 20:27.13 | greycat | (But I don't know whether gst-launch is the name of a thing that's managed by Debian's alternatives.) |
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| 20:33.07 | MrMonkey31 | Say, anybody know offhand where recordMyDesktop stores its cache files? seems there's a reference to it in the docs, but nothing revealing :< (thanks) |
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| 20:40.58 | markizano | MrMonkey31: while the app is running, you can look at /proc/$PID/fd and see what file descriptor is open to the video it's writing. |
| 20:41.29 | dreamer | hi all, I've been trying to install 7.7 to two usb sticks in raid1, however when it boots init complains about the disk uuid. I tried to reinstall grub on these disks from a live environment in a chroot, but still get the same problem |
| 20:41.33 | dreamer | any ideas? |
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| 20:43.19 | debia | What gateway param in /etc/network/interfaces for an interface lets debian auto-detect/-use the available gateway? |
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| 20:44.23 | Aleric | greycat: thank you. And no, it's not supported it turns out. |
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| 20:44.57 | greycat | debia: either you use DHCP, or you manually specify the gateway's IP address |
| 20:45.05 | MrMonkey31 | markizano: oh nice! that's just the kind of tip I'm looking for |
| 20:45.29 | markizano | :) |
| 20:45.41 | debia | aha |
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| 20:51.34 | Skyrider | I'm trying to get either php/html code to load, view and reverse a txt file.. |
| 20:51.44 | Skyrider | But the ones I used thus far, are quite... broken. |
| 20:52.04 | Skyrider | eg, special symbol in the txt files breaks the txt view (stripes through the entire text file). |
| 20:52.39 | Skyrider | I know this isn't php, but I assume no one has an idea which web software or package, web-gui I could use? :p |
| 20:52.59 | greycat | What do you mean by "reverse"? |
| 20:53.26 | Skyrider | From bottom to top. |
| 20:53.45 | Skyrider | It's a chat log, so it shows the "latest" logs at the bottom. |
| 20:53.49 | Skyrider | Hence, my reversing the text. |
| 20:53.56 | Skyrider | **me |
| 20:53.59 | greycat | well, the tac(1) program does that... |
| 20:54.27 | Skyrider | never heard of it |
| 20:54.31 | greycat | man tac |
| 20:55.28 | Skyrider | is it live? |
| 20:55.41 | greycat | It shouldn't be terribly hard to read the filename from the query paramters (or whatever you're doing for input), and invoke tac with that filename as an ar--- you mean, like "tail -f"? No. |
| 20:55.52 | greycat | That wouldn't make any kind of sense. |
| 20:55.56 | `Kevin | ^ |
| 20:56.02 | Skyrider | It would if the chatlogs is real-life |
| 20:56.05 | Skyrider | it constantly changes. |
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| 20:56.39 | greycat | Then what you want is some sort of weird javascript thing that is totally not CGI or any other old-school technology. |
| 20:56.47 | Skyrider | $file_handle = array_reverse($file); |
| 20:56.50 | Skyrider | works, fine. |
| 20:57.01 | Skyrider | as normal php code |
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| 20:57.34 | greycat | It sounds like what you want is to read new lines from the file as they are appended, and insert them at the TOP of the existing displayed web page. Which is way outside the scope of #debian. |
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| 20:58.12 | Skyrider | I figured as much, worth a shot in asking :) |
| 20:58.18 | Skyrider | Doesn't exactly hurt to ask. |
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| 21:12.37 | pharpend | I'm a bit confused. I'm running Debian stable, and have bitlbee started |
| 21:12.42 | chrstfer | qq: why would ls list a file with an asterisk (*) next to it? |
| 21:12.55 | chrstfer | m00nsl47r@cucumber ~/myapps/bin $ ls |
| 21:12.55 | chrstfer | znc* znc-buildmod* |
| 21:12.59 | chrstfer | eg^^ |
| 21:13.03 | pharpend | I tried to connect weechat to localhost/6667 |
| 21:13.05 | greycat | chrstfer: by default, when stdout is a terminal, ls puts * on executables. |
| 21:13.12 | pharpend | the address was not found |
| 21:13.17 | chrstfer | oh really? thats actually sick |
| 21:13.19 | chrstfer | thank you |
| 21:13.38 | pharpend | 16689 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/bitlbee -p 6667 -P /var/run/bitlbee.pid -F |
| 21:13.43 | pharpend | bitlbee is running |
| 21:13.44 | greycat | or.... maybe that's not the default in Debian, sorry. Anyway, it does that if you specify the -F option. |
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| 21:15.00 | pharpend | Any ideas? |
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| 21:17.29 | SynrG | pharpend: literally a slash? That's funny notation for a port # |
| 21:18.13 | pharpend | SynrG: That's pretty standard on IRC |
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| 21:18.40 | SynrG | I don't know weechat but a colon is typical elsewhere |
| 21:19.17 | pharpend | My address for FreeNode is chat.freenode.net/6697 |
| 21:19.46 | SynrG | Fair enough. |
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| 21:20.23 | SynrG | netstat -tl |
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| 21:21.08 | pharpend | SynrG: http://ix.io/2B |
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| 21:23.00 | `Kevin | pharpend: looks like its listening on ipv6 only unless you trimmed that ? |
| 21:23.17 | pharpend | `Kevin: no trimming, I just piped to the pastebin |
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| 21:23.52 | `Kevin | host localhost resolves to ::1 ? |
| 21:24.08 | Dagger2 | v6 sockets listening on :: can accept v4 connections if you've left net.ipv6.bindv6only set to its default value of 0 |
| 21:24.30 | pharpend | `Kevin: Host localhost not found: 3(NXDOMAIN) |
| 21:24.42 | `Kevin | pharpend: ok you need to fix /etc/hosts |
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| 21:25.42 | pharpend | `Kevin: here's the current /etc/hosts - http://ix.io/2F |
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| 21:26.16 | greycat | "host" does not look in /etc/hosts. It only looks in DNS. So that might be confusing the issue. |
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| 21:26.28 | `Kevin | greycat: ha ;P |
| 21:27.09 | greycat | "getent hosts localhost" will look in files like /etc/hosts (as defined by /etc/nsswitch.conf) |
| 21:27.26 | `Kevin | yea my mistake there |
| 21:27.26 | SynrG | Anyway if it's only listening on ipv6 don't you want ip6-localhost? |
| 21:27.41 | SynrG | Given that /etc/hosts |
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| 21:28.38 | Dagger2 | SynrG: if he's left net.ipv6.bindv6only set to 0 then that socket should be able to accept v4 connections |
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| 21:29.08 | greycat | You can test with "telnet 127.0.0.1 6667" or similar. |
| 21:29.14 | Dagger2 | trivial test: `telnet 127.0.0.1 ircd` |
| 21:29.22 | Dagger2 | ...yeah, that |
| 21:29.25 | SynrG | Yep. |
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| 21:30.40 | `Kevin | pharpend: ^ you follow? |
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| 21:31.02 | pharpend | ack, I wasn't paying attention. ip6-localhost worked, though, thank you |
| 21:31.31 | SynrG | Implying bindv6only not zero |
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| 21:32.02 | `Kevin | yea, resolver was likely fine regardless due to the netstat output |
| 21:33.02 | Dagger2 | you can check that one with `sysctl net.ipv6.bindv6only`, although there's a similar option that can be set on individual sockets |
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| 21:34.10 | hays | is there an apt-get command that will do update/upgrade in one swoop |
| 21:34.16 | SynrG | Dagger2: accepting a connection is one thing. Weechat being able to resolve to the ipv6 address another though ... |
| 21:34.30 | SynrG | Isn't it? |
| 21:34.44 | greycat | hays: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
| 21:34.45 | mtn | hays: you can combine commands with && |
| 21:34.47 | Dagger2 | normally localhost resolves to 127.0.0.1 only |
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| 21:35.00 | greycat | Dagger2: mine doesn't seem to. |
| 21:35.00 | hays | yeh, just checking if there was a more compact way |
| 21:35.23 | greycat | Dagger2: I get the ::1 line from /etc/hosts which appears below the 127.0.0.1 line. |
| 21:35.26 | hays | i suppose sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade |
| 21:35.41 | greycat | hays: if you weren't already root, yes. |
| 21:35.56 | hays | maybe i'll make an alias |
| 21:35.57 | SynrG | So using ip6-localhost is the correct solution? Or is his hosts screwy |
| 21:36.04 | mtn | hays: and if sudo is turned on ;) |
| 21:36.32 | greycat | SynrG: I don't know what a wheezy-installed /etc/hosts should look like. I suspect mine was upgraded. |
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| 21:36.44 | SynrG | Ah |
| 21:37.15 | Dagger2 | greycat: https://p.6core.net/p/BioRy5cLW9nftXRjsTdAlktY |
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| 21:37.49 | greycat | Dagger2: mine is similar, but without the fe00::0 and ff00:: lines |
| 21:37.51 | pharpend | Well now I can't connect to my jabber account |
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| 21:38.04 | Dagger2 | greycat: and oh, I see `telnet -6 localhost` works for me ("Trying ::1..."), but 127.0.0.1 is sorted first |
| 21:38.04 | greycat | Dagger2: and also mine has localhost on the ::1 line |
| 21:38.54 | pharpend | I'm getting "jabber - Login error: Authentication failure" |
| 21:38.56 | Dagger2 | (as in, localhost -> {127.0.0.1, ::1}... I'm not quite sure where the ::1 comes from if it's not in /etc/hosts, but oh well...) |
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| 21:40.10 | pharpend | I know my password is correct |
| 21:40.25 | pharpend | okay, just logged into my account through the web browser |
| 21:40.36 | pharpend | "Google prevented a suspicious sign in attempt" |
| 21:40.50 | jhutchins | Ok, you can stop worrying about tuning your ssd filesystem now: http://hardware.slashdot.org/story/14/12/04/1745218/consumer-grade-ssds-survive-two-petabytes-of-writes |
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| 21:43.54 | pharpend | apparenly they have "temporarily banned my account" for my own protection |
| 21:43.57 | pharpend | friggin google |
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| 21:44.41 | SM0TVI | Anyone know a good program to maintain your ssl certs and keys? |
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| 21:47.52 | dreamer | hmmz, so it seems that grub doesn't see the uuid of the raid I have on usb. annoying :/ |
| 21:48.04 | dreamer | the 7.7 live-rescue sees it just fine |
| 21:48.10 | jhutchins | SM0TVI: bash? |
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| 21:50.38 | SM0TVI | jhutchins: Or some other scripting language, repeatedly generating keys and putting them in the appropriate locations? (e.g. openssl req -new -x509 -days 3650 -nodes -newkey rsa:4096 -out /etc/ssl/certs/$service.pem -keyout /etc/ssl/private/$service.pem ) |
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| 21:59.50 | dreamer | try backported 3.16 kernel |
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| 22:00.16 | dreamer | I see there dracut is used for initramfs .. see if that knows what a usb-raid is .. |
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| 22:03.28 | jhutchins | dreamer: Are you sure the raid HAS a UUID? |
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| 22:06.36 | dreamer | I can see it from the live-rescue |
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| 22:06.47 | dreamer | and it's what is put in the grub.cfg |
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| 22:07.10 | dreamer | but booting it b0rks again |
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| 22:07.19 | dreamer | with the 3.16 kernel |
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| 22:09.03 | jhutchins | Something about the timing no doubt. Enable boot.log and sift through dmesg |
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| 22:09.43 | dreamer | annoying that this system is hooked to my tv and part of the image is cut off >_< |
| 22:09.46 | rainbowdash-- | :) |
| 22:10.31 | jhutchins | dreamer: First world problems, dude. |
| 22:10.35 | dreamer | I know |
| 22:10.59 | dreamer | anyway, how do I "enable boot.log"? |
| 22:11.16 | greycat | install the bootlogd package |
| 22:11.40 | dreamer | ah |
| 22:11.52 | dreamer | first go back to chroot |
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| 22:18.56 | dreamer | ok, lets see what this does .. if it even gets there |
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| 22:25.59 | dreamer | it seems like the initram just hangs |
| 22:26.32 | dreamer | it just decompresses the kernel. then loads it. then a bunch of messages about the cache mode of the usb sticks (just a warning right?) .. then nothing |
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| 22:40.45 | lowreen | hi i cant boot my debian with acpi, i have to use acpi=off in the kernel line, any idea why my acpi is broken? |
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| 22:43.28 | teraflops | lowreen: broken? |
| 22:43.31 | teraflops | wow |
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| 22:48.37 | lowreen | teraflops: but how come acpi is broken? |
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| 22:49.19 | jhutchins | lowreen: Basically the manufacturer of your motherboard has implemented it badly. |
| 22:49.34 | lowreen | msi? |
| 22:49.40 | teraflops | lowreen: i don t think it is broken as jhutchins says |
| 22:49.49 | jhutchins | lowreen: They probably ship a driver for Windows that makes up for the shortcomings, but when it's actually interfaced according to the standards it breaks. |
| 22:50.12 | Eduard_Munteanu | lowreen, check your BIOS settings for a deep C3 state or Cool&Quiet and try to disable them, if it's an AMD CPU. |
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| 22:50.58 | Eduard_Munteanu | They've been known to mess up kernel timers, especially if it locks up during boot and sometimes continues running if you press random keys. |
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| 23:02.39 | Richard82 | hi |
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| 23:04.07 | Richard82 | I have a problem to understand the output of apt-get and would like to ask for help, please |
| 23:04.07 | Richard82 | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=mfq2bYG9 |
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| 23:05.37 | nkuttler | ,v liborc-0.4-0 |
| 23:05.38 | judd | Package: liborc-0.4-0 on i386 -- squeeze: 1:0.4.6-2; wheezy: 1:0.4.16-2; wheezy-backports: 1:0.4.19-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 1:0.4.22-1; sid: 1:0.4.22-1 |
| 23:05.39 | dgeary2 | gdm3 in wheezy crashes on startup when 2 keyboard layouts are defined (see example in https://wiki.debian.org/Keyboard) in /etc/default/keyboard including 'us' where 'us' is the second one. how to troubleshoot? |
| 23:06.04 | nkuttler | Richard82: are you mixing wheezy and jessie sources? |
| 23:06.19 | Richard82 | nkuttler, not that I'd be aware of! My sources.list is fine |
| 23:07.13 | nkuttler | Richard82: pastebin output of apt-cache policy liborc-0.4-0 libswscale2 libdvdread4 libopus0 |
| 23:07.14 | Richard82 | nkuttler, just checked - wheezy only in my sources.list |
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| 23:08.13 | Richard82 | nkuttler, http://pastebin.com/F8Fa2u2x |
| 23:09.08 | nkuttler | ,v libswscale2 |
| 23:09.09 | judd | Package: libswscale2 on i386 -- squeeze-backports: 6:0.8.6-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 6:0.8.16-1; wheezy-security: 6:0.8.16-1; wheezy-backports: 6:10.1-1~bpo70+1; wheezy-multimedia: 8:1.0.10-dmo1 |
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| 23:09.29 | Richard82 | nkuttler, pardon, what does that mean to me? |
| 23:09.35 | nkuttler | Richard82: that looks a little strange.. try apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 23:09.55 | Richard82 | isn't this extremly dangerous? |
| 23:10.12 | nkuttler | Richard82: pastebin the output before confirming.. |
| 23:10.15 | Richard82 | ok |
| 23:10.32 | Richard82 | nkuttler, thank you for your intensive hand-holding help !! |
| 23:13.06 | Richard82 | nkuttler, before I do so: I ran "aptitude update" |
| 23:13.15 | Richard82 | then I ran again: "aptitude install handbrake" |
| 23:13.25 | Richard82 | and now the output is totally different (after the aptitude update) |
| 23:13.26 | Richard82 | http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=FRtVnrv3 |
| 23:14.02 | nkuttler | Richard82: dist-upgrade |
| 23:14.09 | nkuttler | ,v libdvdread4 |
| 23:14.11 | judd | Package: libdvdread4 on i386 -- squeeze: 4.1.3-10; wheezy: 4.2.0+20120521-2; wheezy-backports: 4.2.1-2~bpo70+1; sid: 5.0.0-1; jessie: 5.0.0-1 |
| 23:14.17 | Richard82 | nkuttler, http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=bnpDywNw |
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| 23:14.56 | nkuttler | Richard82: apt-cache policy libc6? |
| 23:15.48 | Richard82 | nkuttler, http://pastebin.com/YqmiuH2v |
| 23:16.04 | Richard82 | nkuttler, I missed to copy the first letter "l" |
| 23:16.11 | Richard82 | ibc6 should be "libc6" |
| 23:16.22 | nkuttler | Richard82: yeah, well, it looks like your install is somewhat outdated |
| 23:16.27 | nkuttler | ,v libc6 |
| 23:16.28 | judd | Package: libc6 on i386 -- squeeze: 2.11.3-4; squeeze-security-lts: 2.11.3-4+deb6u2; wheezy-security: 2.13-38+deb7u4; wheezy: 2.13-38+deb7u6; sid: 2.19-13; jessie: 2.19-13 |
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| 23:16.46 | Richard82 | so the upgrade and dist-upgrade would help? |
| 23:16.56 | nkuttler | Richard82: try just upgrade first |
| 23:17.25 | Richard82 | WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! |
| 23:17.25 | Richard82 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:17.25 | Richard82 | ? |
| 23:17.45 | Richard82 | because of this, I am asked: "Install these packages without verification [y/N]? " |
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| 23:18.29 | Richard82 | I answered "y" |
| 23:18.37 | nkuttler | Richard82: well, either that or go read https://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt |
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| 23:19.17 | debia | hi |
| 23:19.57 | slashd | Is there a known bug with pkg : at ? Getting a lot of errors like those : File a003a9016837fb is in wrong format - aborting. I'm runing 3.1.13 |
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| 23:20.50 | Richard82 | nkuttler, thank you for your help! The upgrade is running. This is very likely to need quite a while. |
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| 23:25.02 | wm4 | are there snapshots for debian unstable? |
| 23:25.23 | squisher | is there a debian-live for jessie or sid? |
| 23:25.30 | squisher | wm4, I don't believe so |
| 23:25.43 | squisher | wm4, well, in a way testing is a snapshot of stable |
| 23:25.48 | squisher | s/stable/unstable/ |
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| 23:26.45 | wm4 | does anyone have the package archives for nvidia-driver 340.32 ? |
| 23:26.48 | Gent | I have a number of packages that apt-get wants to downgrade, presumably because I've installed newer versions with -u testing and my apt preferences does not have all their deps. Is there any way to specify that if I include a package in apt preferences that it's deps should also come from that release? |
| 23:28.03 | Gent | or preferably that their deps should ceom from testing if and only if it would otherwise hold the main packages back |
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| 23:29.32 | slashd | For the record I found this bug created in 2011 and mine is very similar it's seems like not fix has been apply for this bug since then, could it be possible ? https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=638256 |
| 23:29.42 | Gent | sorry -t |
| 23:29.43 | Gent | not -u |
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