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| 00:06.38 | hanfm | hi, i have an openldap server running on debian 7. i use it for authenticating users for openvpn and a qnap fileserver. |
| 00:06.39 | hanfm | since today, the authentication does no more work. i didn't change anything on the config. but today, i added a user with ldapaccountmanager. the authentication for this user was working. but some hours later, i had the mess. if i try to test the authentication with ldapsearch, i get "additional info: SASL(-13): user not found: no secret in database". how to solve this error? |
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| 00:28.03 | g00se | Something's getting me quite confused - gvim is a link that ends in vim.gtk. If i invoke the latter directly, i get no syntax highlighting. If i invoke the former, then it's fine. Why is that?? |
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| 00:35.07 | lg188 | Hello, I'm looking for the program which I can change the looks of configuration stuff of packages |
| 00:35.17 | lg188 | for example taskel, should show a window |
| 00:35.28 | lg188 | but now it shouws the options and numbers |
| 00:35.34 | lg188 | how do I change that back? |
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| 00:44.12 | marioxcc | Hello. Where can I find the documentation for the init systme in Debian 7.7 (Sys-V init) |
| 00:44.13 | marioxcc | ? |
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| 00:44.58 | marioxcc | I noticed that the init system is made by several packages. And there isn't any meaningful documentation under their respective directories in /usr/share/doc/ |
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| 00:48.53 | ROG3R | how do I format an usb with fat32 from terminal? |
| 00:50.42 | break19 | ROG3R: man mkfs.vfat |
| 00:52.43 | ROG3R | break19: i already used mkdosfs -F 32 -I /dev/sdaX |
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| 00:53.42 | Brigo | marioxcc, man init, and follow the links at the end of the page for more. |
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| 00:54.40 | break19 | ROG3R: then why did you ask how to do it if you have already done it? |
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| 00:55.49 | ROG3R | break19: I fist asked and then I googled and then you answered |
| 00:55.58 | ROG3R | anyway, thanks for answering |
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| 01:13.26 | ROG3R | I am trying to make a bottable linux live usb. I formated with Fat32 and used UNetbootin to burn the iso onto the usb... it hangs at loasind the distro , here is the error i get http://picpaste.com/pics/IMG_4309-8d9kuZZN.1417828292.PNG |
| 01:13.53 | ROG3R | loading hangs* |
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| 01:15.40 | err404 | use dd if=your_file_iso_debian of=/dev/your_usb bs=1M |
| 01:16.02 | ROG3R | err404: no need to format it. right? |
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| 01:16.11 | err404 | yes, no need format |
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| 01:16.20 | err404 | but it' s like /dev/sdb |
| 01:16.25 | err404 | not /dev/sdb1 |
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| 01:16.33 | ROG3R | err404: ok ill try and report back |
| 01:18.13 | marioxcc | Hello. Where can I find the documentation for the init systme in Debian 7.7 (Sys-V init)?. I noticed that the init system is made by several packages. And there isn't any meaningful documentation under their respective directories in /usr/share/doc/ or the man page for "init". |
| 01:18.38 | ROG3R | err404: so it shows /dev/sdb1 ---- im just gonna use /dev/sdb --- right? |
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| 01:21.38 | err404 | yes |
| 01:21.54 | err404 | only /dev/sdb |
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| 01:23.25 | ROG3R | ok |
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| 01:26.27 | ROG3R | err404: it gave me error |
| 01:26.34 | ROG3R | operating system not found. |
| 01:26.56 | ROG3R | what other burner is there? |
| 01:27.05 | err404 | ... :( |
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| 01:27.30 | err404 | did you sync before eject? |
| 01:27.37 | ROG3R | no |
| 01:27.54 | err404 | or may be your computer doesn' t boot correctly on usb |
| 01:28.10 | ROG3R | err404: it boots other distro such as slax |
| 01:28.36 | err404 | ok, so, is not your computer, |
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| 01:28.37 | ROG3R | was that sync important ? |
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| 01:29.14 | err404 | sync assume you finish to write all your buffer, but, with dd in not really important |
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| 01:29.29 | err404 | i hope |
| 01:29.46 | ROG3R | whats the dd command again?\? |
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| 01:30.11 | err404 | dd if=your_file_iso_debian of=/dev/sdb bs=1M |
| 01:30.25 | err404 | dd if=your_file_iso_debian of=/dev/sdb bs=1M; sync |
| 01:30.54 | ROG3R | ok ill try again with sync and report back |
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| 01:31.40 | dvs | ROG3R: What is the name of the iso file? |
| 01:32.41 | ROG3R | dvs: wifislax-4-9-final.iso |
| 01:32.54 | ROG3R | its 734mb and my usb is ~1gb |
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| 01:35.17 | ROG3R | should i also safely eject the usb now? |
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| 01:36.03 | err404 | ROG3R, yes, after sync, you "can" brutaly eject your usbkey :p |
| 01:36.37 | ROG3R | brb reboot |
| 01:37.08 | rryoumaa | when i do "su - mainuser" from root, it says "cannot cd to /home/mainuser". but that directory is owned by mainuser, permissions are drwx------, and the parent directory is dwxr-xr-x. |
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| 01:38.44 | ROG3R | operating system not found |
| 01:38.52 | ROG3R | so dd fails worst ten UNetbootin |
| 01:39.12 | ROG3R | I should rather try a new burner |
| 01:39.21 | g00se | ROG3R: But that is NOT Debian |
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| 01:39.33 | ROG3R | g00se: wifislax |
| 01:39.45 | ROG3R | my main OS is debian |
| 01:40.15 | g00se | You should be asking slax. |
| 01:40.26 | ROG3R | slax works fine ! |
| 01:40.40 | ROG3R | i burned slax and it boots np |
| 01:41.06 | g00se | That is not a Debian live distro is it? |
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| 01:44.15 | rryoumaa | (correcting the typo) can anybody think of a possible reason for this? when i do "su - mainuser" from root, it says "cannot cd to /home/mainuser". but that directory is owned by mainuser, permissions are drwx------, and the parent directory is drwx-xr-x. |
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| 01:44.28 | lg188 | I'm having an issue with a server not being able to reach hosts |
| 01:44.46 | lg188 | an email server |
| 01:44.53 | lg188 | sendmail to be specifigc |
| 01:46.26 | lg188 | I can send to my localhost |
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| 01:50.03 | pingfloyd | fyi, sendmail is notorious for terrible security |
| 01:50.12 | somiaj | rryoumaa: care to just give us the output of ls -ld /home/mainuser |
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| 01:51.55 | lg188 | pingfloyd: it doesn't need to serve for users, just to send out mail |
| 01:52.03 | lg188 | from a program |
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| 01:54.26 | rryoumaa | somiaj: cannot now as i have unmounted to try to overwrite the whole fs (it is on a vm and i am mounting on host) but it is drwx------ 59 mainuser mainuser 4096 (yesterday's date) /home/mainuser |
| 01:55.09 | rryoumaa | by "it is" i meant "it was, when it was mounted on guest" |
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| 01:57.04 | somiaj | rryoumaa: only thing I could think of is try 'su mainuser' then 'cd /home/mainuser' see if that works |
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| 01:57.13 | somiaj | rryoumaa: might give you a better error, but I'm unsure what the case could be |
| 01:59.20 | rryoumaa | somiaj: ok, i overwrote it with an exact copy and mounted it on the guest. same thing. |
| 01:59.21 | rryoumaa | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:00.06 | rryoumaa | (i cannot copy and paste as it is just a linux console on the guest) |
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| 02:01.45 | marioxcc | apart from compatibility and ease of use, are there advantages of using tar over cpio?. |
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| 02:01.56 | somiaj | rryoumaa: so the error is with /bin/bash |
| 02:02.21 | rryoumaa | somiaj: ok. the permissions there are normal (drwdr-xr-x) |
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| 02:02.47 | somiaj | rryoumaa: for some reason do you have your file system mounted noexec? |
| 02:02.54 | rryoumaa | marioxcc: there are many intricate differences. cpio might be more space-efficient. |
| 02:03.15 | rryoumaa | marioxcc: but tar has come a long way. it is much better htan it used to be. |
| 02:03.23 | rryoumaa | somiaj: how do i check? |
| 02:03.41 | marioxcc | rryoumaa: Ok. I see that it saves special devices as well. |
| 02:04.03 | marioxcc | rryoumaa: have you used dar? |
| 02:04.13 | marioxcc | If so, what do you think of it?. |
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| 02:04.25 | somiaj | rryoumaa: the output of mount should help |
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| 02:04.46 | rryoumaa | marioxcc: no. years ago i did a thorough examination of various ones, but only looked at dar slightly |
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| 02:05.38 | marioxcc | rryoumaa: Which other archiver formats meant for use on Unix-like OSs are there?. |
| 02:05.52 | marioxcc | I think that PAX is a variant of Tar. |
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| 02:06.12 | rryoumaa | somiaj: no, it is not noexec |
| 02:06.38 | somiaj | rryoumaa: well seems something is prventing you from executing files |
| 02:06.46 | somiaj | rryoumaa: can you run /bin/bash directally? |
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| 02:06.54 | somiaj | rryoumaa: how about other files, does it say cannot exectue |
| 02:06.57 | rryoumaa | somiaj: i am running bash as the root shell |
| 02:07.14 | rryoumaa | root can run anything, lsblk, mount, etc. |
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| 02:07.23 | rryoumaa | ls :) |
| 02:07.55 | somiaj | rryoumaa: any other users you can try to su as, I can't think of why one user would be causing those issues |
| 02:08.25 | rryoumaa | somiaj: no, it is a new installation with only one user |
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| 02:08.43 | somiaj | rryoumaa: well try ading a new user, 'adduser tmpuser' then see if y ou can su to that |
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| 02:09.55 | rryoumaa | same 2 results for su - and su respectively |
| 02:10.17 | somiaj | can you login as those user normally without using su? |
| 02:12.01 | rryoumaa | logging in on vt2 prints lines, clears screen, and issues login prompt |
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| 02:12.34 | rryoumaa | so i think it logged me in and then threw a fit |
| 02:13.37 | jpinx | Does the current stable debian live have persistence built-in ? |
| 02:14.06 | marioxcc | rryoumaa: Which other archiver formats meant for use on Unix-like OSs are there?. (I'm asking becase you said that you researched the topic). I know of pax as well, I think it's a variant of tar. |
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| 02:17.20 | rryoumaa | marioxcc: there are a bunch. pax isn't really a variant of tar per se, but there are variants of tar. cpio some people use. zip works quite well and is common on other oses. ar dar etc. exist. most people seem to use tar. packages in various distros use cpio, tar, ar. anyway debian has tons of them; it is pretty intricate finding out about the differences. |
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| 02:18.22 | marioxcc | rryoumaa: Do you know why pax and tar pad data to multiples of a constant?. |
| 02:18.57 | rryoumaa | somiaj: could this be a corrupted kernel or something? i took a careful backup when everything was working and this is a restoration of it, which i compared to make sure it was identical. |
| 02:19.14 | [E]sc | i'm getting huge static in my audio when i play certain video files using vlc. Is there a fix for this? i'm on wheezy, 7.6, alsa 3.2.0-4-amd64, FCH Azalia device controller |
| 02:19.30 | lg188 | the mails don't even seem to reach the other host in my network |
| 02:19.43 | rryoumaa | marioxcc: tar takes pains to do all sorts of extremely weird things to be backward compatible etc. dunno about padding, maybe related to tape blocks or something. |
| 02:19.45 | lg188 | even if I point at it with an IP |
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| 02:21.01 | marioxcc | rryoumaa: Ok. I noticed it generates 10 KiB per file. |
| 02:21.34 | rryoumaa | remember that compression can take care of that in some cases |
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| 02:21.38 | marioxcc | rryoumaa: so, which one do you recommend when backward compatbility is not an issue, to make archiveballs before compressing (padding still makes compression take more time and be a bit less efficient). |
| 02:21.55 | pfred1 | pointing is rude |
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| 02:23.37 | pfred1 | [E]sc sort of sounds like a Jack latency issue to me |
| 02:24.02 | pfred1 | could just be a loose audio jack though |
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| 02:25.04 | Stevie-O | Okay! I am about to attempt to install a custom-made Debianized Xen 4.5.0-rc3 |
| 02:25.13 | Stevie-O | anyone want to wish me luck and/or offer helpful advice? |
| 02:25.50 | [E]sc | pfred1, if i play the file using another player, say mplayer, the sound comes out fine. I tried using different audio output devices without any luck. |
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| 02:26.46 | rryoumaa | i recommend using a script to try a bunch of them, and tuning the script to test for speed, archive size before and after comporession, or even resilience to randomized deliberate corruption in addition to checking for security holes upon extraction due to symlinks and relative pathnames (most of which are fixed these days), pathname length, etc. :) marioxcc: i think tar works well, and so does zip, and cpio would b |
| 02:26.46 | rryoumaa | e ok too. i can't help further. if pressed then i'd go with tar as it's well-known and thus well-supported i guess. |
| 02:27.02 | pfred1 | [E]sc have you checked your system load while this was going on? |
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| 02:27.18 | pfred1 | run htop |
| 02:27.35 | [E]sc | pfred1, let me check that right now. |
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| 02:28.11 | marioxcc | rryoumaa: Ok. Thanks you very much. You might also like <http://mattmahoney.net/dc/zpaq.html>. |
| 02:28.14 | rryoumaa | or a combinarion of tar and zip |
| 02:29.01 | marioxcc | what would be the point of combining them, and how would you do so?. |
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| 02:29.08 | rryoumaa | marioxcc: redundancy |
| 02:29.18 | rryoumaa | i.e. both |
| 02:29.18 | pfred1 | well tar does no compression |
| 02:29.19 | [E]sc | pfred1, i didn't see any changes within the htop that went causes any overload on the cpu or ram. however, even when i turn down the volume to zero on vlc, the problem still persists. |
| 02:29.40 | rryoumaa | or tar and cpio or zip and cpio |
| 02:29.43 | pfred1 | [E]sc that is bizarre |
| 02:29.46 | pingfloyd | There isn't many reasons to other cpio over tar these days. It was a different story in the past. |
| 02:29.52 | pfred1 | [E]sc like a crackle? |
| 02:29.54 | rryoumaa | pingfloyd: yeah |
| 02:30.07 | pingfloyd | S/other/prefer |
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| 02:30.16 | marioxcc | rryoumaa: Ok. |
| 02:30.24 | pingfloyd | But if you have a preference already... |
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| 02:31.10 | pingfloyd | Like maybe you like cpio's syntax better or something |
| 02:31.19 | [E]sc | pfred1, yes! that's the sound, a horrible crackling noise |
| 02:31.29 | pfred1 | [E]sc wqhile it isn't an answer it might be a possible solution what i would do is I would get vlc source and build it, then run it see if the problem goes away |
| 02:32.01 | Stevie-O | woo! it booted |
| 02:32.05 | pfred1 | when in doubt upgrade |
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| 02:32.41 | Stevie-O | (XEN) Xen version 4.5.0-rc (Debian 4.5.0~rc3-1) (@) (gcc (Debian 4.9.1-19) 4.9.1) debug=y Fri Dec 5 00:02:56 EST 2014 |
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| 02:33.18 | [E]sc | pfred1, if i changes some of the audio settings sometimes I only get the background audio, like the laughter when in shows, while the main audio dialog is extremely soft or not present at all |
| 02:33.29 | [E]sc | pfred1, i guess i could try that to see if it works. |
| 02:33.39 | pfred1 | [E]sc I've had that too with the surround setting |
| 02:33.45 | pfred1 | it is annoying |
| 02:34.01 | pfred1 | I think my old soundblaster card did it to me |
| 02:34.23 | pfred1 | depending on how the surround slider was set I'd get thin sounds out of it etc. |
| 02:34.30 | [E]sc | pfred1, thing is, this computer, is only 5 weeks old... haha |
| 02:34.31 | pfred1 | like it wasn't the full sudio |
| 02:34.39 | pfred1 | audio even |
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| 02:35.24 | [E]sc | yes this is driving me insane. |
| 02:35.45 | pfred1 | well you say it is only vlc so focus on that |
| 02:36.43 | pfred1 | [E]sc do something like apt-get build-dep vlc then get vlc source and build it see if it is better |
| 02:37.00 | pfred1 | I'd get the vlc source from vlc though I wouldn't use debian's |
| 02:37.39 | rryoumaa | somiaj: the sha1sum of /bin/bash is the same as i expect fwiw |
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| 02:45.15 | qu1nn | hello, I am a relative newb using debian (migrating from opensuse - KDE) how do you get apper to provide root permissions - getting Authorization Failed "You have failed to provide correct authentication". Also, is there any graphical administrator utility similar to YAST? |
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| 02:46.46 | qu1nn | regarding apper; I see that there is synaptics package manger, I suppost I could just use that for updates... |
| 02:47.26 | ectospasm | qu1nn: see sudo (or gksudo) for admin privileges. |
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| 02:47.45 | pfred1 | does Debian do sudoers right now or do we still have to manually edit the sudoers file? |
| 02:48.31 | pfred1 | it has been a while since I've setup a system I think it worked right the last time I did though |
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| 02:49.12 | ectospasm | pfred1: IIRC, when you install the system, you set a regular user. This user should have sudo access by default, but that may be because I don't remember setting it up any other way. |
| 02:49.45 | pfred1 | ectospasm I can remember having to run visudo because of the no auth message |
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| 02:49.58 | pfred1 | this will be reported! |
| 02:50.34 | pfred1 | but that might have been in Squeeze |
| 02:50.52 | pfred1 | I think Wheezy works right |
| 02:50.55 | ectospasm | pfred1: I think now the first non-root user gets added to the sudo group, and sudoers has %sudo with all privileges. |
| 02:51.49 | pfred1 | all,all |
| 02:52.27 | pfred1 | ectospasm yeah it wasn't always that way |
| 02:52.34 | pfred1 | but now I'm pretty sure it is |
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| 02:53.33 | ectospasm | Yeah, I moved from squeeze to testing-wheezy then to sid, and once wheezy became stable became disgusted with sid being broken for long stretches. |
| 02:53.58 | ectospasm | Not being able to edit xmonad.hs for over a month really irked me, thus I reinstalled with wheezy |
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| 02:58.09 | pfred1 | I need to upgrade this system to Wheezy |
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| 02:58.14 | pfred1 | or throw it out |
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| 03:03.56 | lamzar | hello friends, i just installed debian in encrypted lvm and for some reason |
| 03:04.00 | [E]sc | pfred1, thanks i'll try that and see if it works. |
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| 03:04.08 | lamzar | under places, i see an unrecognized partition. what's that all about? |
| 03:04.29 | pfred1 | [E]sc that is advise lifted straight from X start up |
| 03:04.54 | pfred1 | upgrade and see if the problem persists |
| 03:05.51 | lamzar | quite weird that im seeing an unrecognized parition upon a clean install. hope someone knows whats going on |
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| 03:08.00 | pfred1 | lamzar how big a drive? |
| 03:08.12 | pfred1 | past 2TB things get weird |
| 03:08.32 | pfred1 | I had that problem on an install |
| 03:08.38 | lamzar | just 20gb |
| 03:08.47 | pfred1 | oh you're well within everything works |
| 03:08.57 | lamzar | but why is it showing up then |
| 03:08.59 | lamzar | if its jsut 20gb |
| 03:09.12 | lamzar | thats a bug isnt it |
| 03:09.20 | pfred1 | probably not |
| 03:09.26 | lamzar | hmm |
| 03:09.33 | pfred1 | your drive is just partitioned incorrectly |
| 03:09.46 | lamzar | i seperated home |
| 03:09.48 | lamzar | thats it |
| 03:09.53 | lamzar | it wasnt all in one |
| 03:09.55 | pfred1 | well something else happened |
| 03:10.02 | pfred1 | try to fix it with gpartd |
| 03:10.14 | lamzar | how would i do that (sorta new) |
| 03:10.17 | lamzar | just run that command? |
| 03:10.28 | pfred1 | get a boot image with gpartd on it and run it |
| 03:10.40 | lamzar | ok |
| 03:10.43 | pfred1 | it is a GUI app so it should be self explanatory |
| 03:10.48 | lamzar | right |
| 03:11.02 | pfred1 | your machine boots off USB right? |
| 03:11.34 | pfred1 | if not i suppose you could waste a CD on it |
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| 03:11.52 | pfred1 | a gpartd disc is a handy thing to have it is a nice tool |
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| 03:14.37 | lamzar | mine is on hard drive |
| 03:15.10 | lamzar | pfred1: just loaded gparted, dont see anything wrong really |
| 03:15.25 | lamzar | do you want to see a snapshot? |
| 03:15.28 | pfred1 | your myustery partition isn't there? |
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| 03:15.37 | lamzar | no |
| 03:15.41 | lamzar | i see unallocated |
| 03:15.43 | lamzar | 1mb |
| 03:15.50 | pfred1 | yeah you just needed to reboot to reread yoru partition table then |
| 03:16.21 | pfred1 | well you might be able to use gpartd to throw that 1MB to one of your partitions |
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| 03:17.12 | pfred1 | I think fdisk even says that until you reboot things might look a bit wonky |
| 03:17.23 | lamzar | rebooting now |
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| 03:18.05 | pfred1 | as a rule whenever I repartition I always reboot just to have a fresh partition read |
| 03:18.17 | pfred1 | I do thato n installs |
| 03:18.40 | lamzar | thats what i do too |
| 03:18.45 | lamzar | just a quick restart |
| 03:18.51 | pfred1 | yeah you don't have to but it is good practice |
| 03:19.00 | lamzar | ok so i restarted, that unrecognized disk is still there |
| 03:19.04 | lamzar | going into gparted now |
| 03:19.08 | Stevie-O | What's the appropriate way to convince Debian to add something to the boot command line in /boot/grub/grub.cfg ? |
| 03:19.58 | lamzar | pfred1: weird |
| 03:20.07 | lamzar | still dont see the unrecognized partition in gparted |
| 03:20.12 | lamzar | looks normal |
| 03:20.47 | lamzar | theres a sign it looks like a warning sign |
| 03:21.03 | lamzar | next to my dev/sd5 crypt-luks |
| 03:21.46 | pfred1 | yeah it sounds like one of the crypt modulesi n your kernel is a bit cracked to me |
| 03:22.03 | lamzar | i have 3 computers |
| 03:22.04 | pfred1 | that would be a bug |
| 03:22.08 | lamzar | did 3 seperate installs |
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| 03:22.12 | lamzar | all with the same problem |
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| 03:22.29 | pfred1 | because your gpartd disc is a different kernel |
| 03:22.37 | pfred1 | and it isn't having the problem |
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| 03:24.32 | pfred1 | lamzar have you updated since you'vei nstalled? |
| 03:24.43 | lamzar | yep |
| 03:24.46 | pfred1 | drat |
| 03:24.48 | lamzar | updated and upgraded |
| 03:24.53 | lamzar | wheezy 7 |
| 03:24.55 | lamzar | the new iso |
| 03:24.58 | qu1nn | trying to use gparted to format an 3.0 TB drive, was getting an error "partition length of ...sectors exceeds the msdos-partition-table-imosed maximum of ..." see fdisk -l : http://pastebin.com/g43VxFLe, suggestions? |
| 03:24.58 | lamzar | stable |
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| 03:27.34 | lamzar | when i dont encrypt lvm, i dont get that unrecognized disk problem |
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| 03:27.44 | lamzar | but i want to be encrypted |
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| 03:28.53 | pfred1 | well perhaps it is supposed to be unredognized? |
| 03:28.59 | pfred1 | recognized even |
| 03:30.02 | lamzar | when i click on places > unrecognized 21gb |
| 03:30.12 | lamzar | i get a prompt to mount and enter root pass |
| 03:30.20 | lamzar | i enter the pass and it says: |
| 03:30.31 | lamzar | one or more block devices are holding /dev/dm-0 |
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| 03:31.06 | lamzar | could be normal idk just wanna make sure you know |
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| 03:31.50 | Bsims | Question, I'm assuming debian and mint will be identical as far as autodetection, is that a safe assumption |
| 03:32.36 | pingfloyd | auto detection for what? |
| 03:33.26 | Bsims | pingfloyd: well I'm intending it as a rescue live usb drive |
| 03:34.08 | pingfloyd | Bsims: there is a live image of debian stable |
| 03:34.28 | pingfloyd | Bsims: you should put it on a usb/cd/dvd and see how it runs |
| 03:34.44 | Bsims | Ok fair enough |
| 03:34.59 | Bsims | mostly its been used to run chntpw |
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| 03:35.53 | pingfloyd | Bsims: https://wiki.debian.org/LiveCD |
| 03:36.33 | Bsims | thanks pingfloyd |
| 03:36.35 | lamzar | pfred1: its probably a bug from what im thinkin |
| 03:36.39 | pingfloyd | Bsims: yw |
| 03:36.50 | lamzar | because theres not really any parition unrecognized and everything works |
| 03:37.11 | lamzar | every drive is being used |
| 03:37.14 | pfred1 | lamzar filesystem encryption is beyond my experience it is nothing I've ever needed |
| 03:37.47 | lamzar | im gonna assume its normal and move on |
| 03:37.54 | pfred1 | I would |
| 03:38.05 | lamzar | before i leave, check this |
| 03:38.06 | lamzar | http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2857974/Is-Barack-Obamas-head-MARS-UFO-experts-claim-spotted-rock-resembling-President.html |
| 03:38.12 | lamzar | off topic but cool |
| 03:38.30 | Stevie-O | what they meant was |
| 03:38.34 | Stevie-O | it resembles the ones in his head |
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| 03:38.45 | Stevie-O | *rimshot* |
| 03:38.47 | pingfloyd | Bsims: what I do is take that livecd image, make it persistent and then keep it around as my recovery stick |
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| 03:39.40 | Bsims | nods I use mint for that, though my main VM is Debian and FreeBSD |
| 03:39.42 | pingfloyd | Bsims: then you can install any extra packages you need through apt and they'll be available in a pinch |
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| 03:40.20 | pingfloyd | Bsims: the process of making it persistent is pretty similar to with mint's livecd image |
| 03:40.43 | Bsims | pingfloyd: I know I love linux live cd creator |
| 03:40.56 | pingfloyd | Bsims: I usually make them manually |
| 03:41.46 | pingfloyd | Bsims: here's some helpful info for that http://live.debian.net/manual/1.x/html/persistence.html |
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| 03:42.29 | pingfloyd | Bsims: actually I think that link is way out of date |
| 03:42.45 | lamzar | the warning in my gparted was: linux unified key encryption is not yet supported |
| 03:42.49 | pingfloyd | Bsims: here's something more current http://live.debian.net/manual/current/html/live-manual/customizing-run-time-behaviours.en.html#557 |
| 03:42.53 | lamzar | whats that about? pfred1 any ideas? |
| 03:43.26 | pingfloyd | lamzar: gparted can't modify luks containers |
| 03:43.36 | lamzar | ok |
| 03:43.39 | lamzar | makes sense |
| 03:43.47 | pingfloyd | lamzar: that means that partition is encrypted with luk iow |
| 03:43.50 | pingfloyd | *Luks |
| 03:44.01 | lamzar | thanks pfred1 and pingfloyd |
| 03:44.10 | pingfloyd | lamzar: yw |
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| 03:44.57 | tpw_rules | what do i need to do to make my system have a .local on a network? ie i can do ssh tpw_rules@mysystem.local instead of knowing the ip address. mysystem is already its hostname |
| 03:45.43 | Stevie-O | dnsmasq? |
| 03:45.54 | tpw_rules | if i just install it, does that get set up magically? |
| 03:46.00 | Stevie-O | no |
| 03:46.03 | pingfloyd | tpw_rules: if it is just a lan you can use whatever domain name |
| 03:46.03 | Stevie-O | .local is just a domain name |
| 03:46.06 | Stevie-O | you need a dns server |
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| 03:46.27 | Stevie-O | I use .lan because (a) that's the openwrt default, and (b) I am too lazy to type the extra 2 characters in 'local' |
| 03:46.30 | tpw_rules | i have a dns server in my router. it's worked on other systems in the past out of the box |
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| 03:46.41 | pingfloyd | I prefer .org myself |
| 03:46.48 | tpw_rules | but i installed a minimal install and i don't know how to do the magics to make it work |
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| 03:47.27 | Stevie-O | ohhh I think I know what you're asking |
| 03:47.29 | pingfloyd | tpw_rules: so then you just need to make the a records and possibly should also make ptr records as well |
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| 03:48.00 | Stevie-O | add "send host-name = gethostname();" to /etc/dhcp/dhclient.conf |
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| 03:48.06 | Stevie-O | tpw_rules: ^^ |
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| 03:48.26 | tpw_rules | tries |
| 03:48.27 | pingfloyd | oh, you already have the dns configured? |
| 03:48.34 | Stevie-O | I think what he was asking was |
| 03:48.36 | tpw_rules | it's already there |
| 03:48.40 | Stevie-O | how does it he make it work for his specific system |
| 03:48.41 | Stevie-O | oh |
| 03:48.46 | Stevie-O | and it doesn't work? |
| 03:49.26 | Stevie-O | what does 'hostname -f' say? |
| 03:49.40 | tpw_rules | http://cl.ly/image/1J0n1X3r3M3u its name is in my router. but ssh: Could not resolve hostname wipi.local: nodename nor servname provided, or not known. same network. it's worked in the past magically |
| 03:49.41 | tpw_rules | wipi |
| 03:49.52 | Stevie-O | that's the output of 'hostname -f' ? |
| 03:49.54 | tpw_rules | yes |
| 03:49.57 | tpw_rules | do i have to put .local? |
| 03:50.13 | pingfloyd | yeah, use the fqdn |
| 03:50.18 | tpw_rules | oh. okay |
| 03:50.26 | pingfloyd | maybe that is all the problem is |
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| 03:50.33 | Stevie-O | put it where? |
| 03:50.43 | tpw_rules | after wipi |
| 03:50.45 | Stevie-O | tpw: what if you try: ping matthewsmacbook.local |
| 03:51.25 | tpw_rules | unknown host... |
| 03:51.33 | Stevie-O | mmmh |
| 03:51.38 | Stevie-O | what kind of router is that? |
| 03:51.46 | pingfloyd | though it really shouldn't matter if dns is set right. |
| 03:51.47 | tpw_rules | tomatousb on an asus rt-n66u |
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| 03:52.06 | tpw_rules | i swear i've had it work out of the box with debian before. this is just a different image |
| 03:52.14 | Stevie-O | tomatousb uses dnsmasq |
| 03:52.17 | Stevie-O | your'e using dhcp, right? |
| 03:52.26 | tpw_rules | yes |
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| 03:53.08 | Stevie-O | I dunno |
| 03:53.13 | Stevie-O | if you were using openwrt I could probably help |
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| 03:53.40 | pingfloyd | in this sort of situation you have it where the dhcp server is allowed to update dns records on your dns server |
| 03:54.01 | pingfloyd | then it all the mapping becomes dynamic and always points to current leased ip |
| 03:54.22 | pingfloyd | I couldn't give you the specifics with what you're using though |
| 03:54.49 | tpw_rules | the router itself uses dnsmasq |
| 03:54.51 | pingfloyd | tpw_rules: have you tried asking in #networking yet? |
| 03:55.08 | tpw_rules | no. i figured it was a debian issue |
| 03:55.12 | pingfloyd | you might find someone who has gone through your headache already and solved it |
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| 03:55.36 | pingfloyd | tpw_rules: it's pretty distro agnostic |
| 03:55.48 | pingfloyd | tpw_rules: more comes down to which daemons you're using and where |
| 03:56.06 | tpw_rules | this is a very minimal install. the packages you're expecting it to have probably aren't there |
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| 03:57.42 | pingfloyd | tpw_rules: maybe this will be helpful http://www.aboutdebian.com/dns.htm |
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| 04:26.58 | tpw_rules | why does debian not have python 3.4? |
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| 04:27.27 | SirLagz | tpw_rules: debain stable ? testing ? unstable ? |
| 04:27.38 | tpw_rules | i guess wheezy |
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| 04:28.05 | tpw_rules | bah that's silly that the python 3.4 package isn't available for wheezy |
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| 04:29.27 | SirLagz | tpw_rules: wait for jessie to become stable and it'll be available :D |
| 04:29.37 | tpw_rules | well this is a raspberry pi |
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| 04:30.23 | SirLagz | tpw_rules: why not just use Raspbian Jessie then ? |
| 04:30.46 | qu1nn | what is the launchable name for Network Connections KDE control module (so that I am add a VPN) or what group permission is required to allow the network changes? |
| 04:31.08 | tpw_rules | and i am not waiting six hours for python 3.4 to compile. jessie might be feasible. |
| 04:31.29 | SirLagz | tpw_rules: pretty sure the boys at Raspbian have had Raspbian Jessie for a *long* time |
| 04:32.27 | SirLagz | tpw_rules: actually I built a Pi server a while ago with Raspbian Jessie |
| 04:33.20 | tpw_rules | since i'm dumb and lazy can you point me to where i can get it? i can't find it |
| 04:34.01 | tpw_rules | oh |
| 04:34.04 | tpw_rules | that's easy to upgrade |
| 04:34.07 | SirLagz | lol. |
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| 04:34.16 | tpw_rules | i thought i'd have to reflash the card |
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| 04:54.23 | qu1nn | coming from opensuse, missing YAST. Is there something similar in debian? What permission group needed to launch KDE control module? and / or what is the apps name to lauch with gksu? |
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| 05:02.17 | somiaj | qu1nn: aptitude has a curses based tool, I would suggest that. If you really want a graphical based tool for packages look at synamptic, though I would suggest just learning apt-get and aptitude |
| 05:02.38 | somiaj | I'd assume the kde control module would just require run as the user who owns the kde session |
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| 05:04.13 | qu1nn | thx I am aware of and use synaptics, however I am trying to add a VPN network connection, but i dont have permission.... |
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| 05:04.28 | K8373 | I cant install Package: aircrack-ng |
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| 05:04.33 | qu1nn | I also dont know the name of the applicaiton |
| 05:04.44 | qu1nn | so I cannot launch as gksu |
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| 05:07.22 | somiaj | qu1nn: what are you using to configure your network? |
| 05:07.48 | somiaj | I am not familar with using vpn so not sure what permissions you need |
| 05:08.07 | somiaj | but if you install network-manager you should be able to have permission to manage the network with that |
| 05:08.56 | somiaj | !tell K8373 about bat |
| 05:09.22 | somiaj | K8373: we need info, specificly the error you get when you type apt-get install aircrack-ng and the output of apt-cache policy aircrack-ng |
| 05:09.23 | qu1nn | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:11.21 | eurobit | qu1nn: are you root? |
| 05:11.32 | qu1nn | somiaj: network-manager is installed, I have already tried to do launch from terminal as root with no luck, i have also tried gksu network-manager |
| 05:12.03 | eurobit | try the other network thihg |
| 05:12.11 | qu1nn | Eurobit: I was under the impression that adding a user to the root was not suggested, but I suppose I could change then remove, will try |
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| 05:12.45 | eurobit | vpn requires root access to the interfaces etc |
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| 05:16.44 | qu1nn | eurobit: I used gksu to launch kuser and I added root. I then tried to add the vpn and I am still getting insufficient privileges. |
| 05:19.38 | qu1nn | Ha! I am a tard! I forgot I was remoting into x2go cllient, |
| 05:19.40 | eurobit | which vpn? |
| 05:19.47 | qu1nn | I got it, sorry |
| 05:20.23 | eurobit | so root was the problem too? or just the x2go thing? |
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| 05:20.46 | qu1nn | x2go must have been a problem, |
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| 05:21.05 | jesselang|laptop | I have a unit file in /etc/systemd/system, and I can stop/start it manually. It's enabled, but it won't start on boot. |
| 05:21.39 | eurobit | can rcconf or chkconfig fix the systemd? |
| 05:22.04 | eurobit | or if you give up with systemd - just start it in /etc/rc.local ;) |
| 05:23.26 | jesselang|laptop | eurobit, I need something a little more structured than that. |
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| 05:26.21 | eurobit | what does that mean? |
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| 05:27.56 | jesselang|laptop | Using rc.local is a pretty hack way to start a bunch of services. |
| 05:28.25 | eurobit | then fix your systemd |
| 05:28.46 | eurobit | its a computer dude - |
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| 05:31.35 | nick[0] | hi, does anyone know the name of this special command that deletes EFI backups, and LVM info, in addition to the MBR? zeroing the first 512 bytes of my drive isn't sufficient... |
| 05:32.26 | eurobit | does fdisk /mbr on window do it? |
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| 05:34.38 | nick[0] | eurobit: no idea, I don't have windows... |
| 05:35.21 | eurobit | you want to get rid of all partitions? |
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| 05:37.53 | nick[0] | eurobit: actually, I need to get rid of an old LVM config. I'm testing LVM to btrfs migration, and although everything looks good (no LVM config, no dm-mapper, good fstab, good grub config, etc.), my btrfs volume is being ro mounted as ext2...it's as if the old data structures are still there |
| 05:38.40 | eurobit | linux fdisk and delete everything and w it |
| 05:39.14 | nick[0] | eurobit: yeah, I thought that would work too! Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be the case |
| 05:40.02 | nick[0] | eurobit: eg: blkid and mount/mtab disagree! |
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| 05:40.29 | nick[0] | eurobit: could this be a weird qemu qcow bug? |
| 05:40.40 | nick[0] | (I'm testing this in a virtual machine) |
| 05:41.02 | eurobit | do the fdisk on no vm and then play with it |
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| 05:45.02 | nick[0] | eurobit: ? I don't know what you mean. I can't test this on a bare-metal system at the moment. |
| 05:47.20 | bynarie | hello fellers! came someone point me in the right direction on setting up my own repos?? |
| 05:47.24 | bynarie | can* |
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| 05:52.09 | somiaj | bynarie: want a full repo, or just a local cache on your network |
| 05:52.39 | bynarie | local |
| 05:53.20 | somiaj | apt-cacher or apt-cacher-ng may be all you ened then |
| 05:53.57 | somiaj | though that will just set up a local cache of things for your network as they are installed |
| 05:54.06 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps |
| 05:54.14 | nick[0] | bynarie: if you want a repo of custom packages, read https://wiki.debian.org/HowToSetupADebianRepository |
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| 06:09.39 | nick[0] | well, I'm going to try a fresh qcow2 image to test if the residual LVM cruft is a VM bug, or and error in my backup/migration strategy |
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| 06:14.29 | Blue1 | how do I change/set locale? mine is set to gb and it should by us. |
| 06:17.35 | somiaj | Blue1: dpkg-reconfigure locales |
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| 06:22.07 | Blue1 | somiaj: I tried that - but it keeps thinking I am in great britian NOT the us. |
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| 06:23.43 | Blue1 | somiaj: this is what I have: http://pastebin.com/5P1tay6y |
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| 06:31.12 | nick[0] | YUP! it was a bug in the following stack: qemu-KVM + qcow2 + hypervisor that's using btrfs.... Argh |
| 06:31.37 | nick[0] | on the upside, my migration strategy was sound |
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| 06:32.33 | pingfloyd | isn't btrfs still experimental? |
| 06:32.39 | jaanz | guys im using nginx and im trying to setup virtual hosts for localhost:8080 to EXAMPLE.COM and i want example.com to run locally, not via internet of course |
| 06:32.43 | jaanz | is this possible? |
| 06:33.25 | pingfloyd | jaanz: should be possible in any web server |
| 06:33.56 | pingfloyd | I don't use nginx, but I would be completely surprised if you couldn't |
| 06:34.16 | jaanz | yeah im new to nginx i know you can |
| 06:34.48 | jaanz | but for some reason im having problems, i set my server block (vhost for nginx) to example.com but no bueno :/ |
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| 06:35.18 | pingfloyd | jaanz: did you try testing with iptables disabled? |
| 06:35.30 | jaanz | whats that |
| 06:35.42 | pingfloyd | your local firewall in linux |
| 06:36.00 | jaanz | well i tried to stop nginx and it said port 80 was in use |
| 06:36.15 | jaanz | and i wanted to restart it because i made port 80 the vhost for example.com |
| 06:36.20 | jaanz | so i shut down my pc |
| 06:36.22 | pingfloyd | sounds like you need to configure it to use port 8080 |
| 06:36.25 | jaanz | and restarted but still same problem |
| 06:36.36 | jaanz | not 80? |
| 06:36.46 | pingfloyd | didn't you want port 8080? |
| 06:36.47 | jaanz | isnt that the same thing as 8080 |
| 06:36.52 | pingfloyd | no |
| 06:37.03 | pingfloyd | they're different ports but both intended for http services |
| 06:37.18 | pingfloyd | like 8080 is auxilary |
| 06:37.22 | jaanz | weird cuz when its running on 80 its not accessible via 80 but it is via 8080 |
| 06:37.31 | pingfloyd | because may you have some other server listening on 80 also |
| 06:37.33 | jaanz | when i do localhost:8080 it works |
| 06:37.34 | pingfloyd | *maybe |
| 06:37.50 | pingfloyd | jaanz: see if anything is already listening on 80 |
| 06:38.32 | jaanz | how can i check |
| 06:38.40 | pingfloyd | like sudo netstant -tunpl |
| 06:38.43 | jaanz | ok |
| 06:38.49 | jaanz | sorry for the newb questions |
| 06:39.09 | pingfloyd | you can do sudo netstat -tunpl | grep ":80" too |
| 06:39.09 | jaanz | good at programming and builds, but new to linux |
| 06:39.12 | jaanz | ok |
| 06:39.19 | pingfloyd | but I would try without first to make sure you have it working |
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| 06:40.31 | nick[0] | pingfloyd: yes, but now that I own a spare hard drive to keep my data backed up (and disconnected), I'm going to start to test it. My eight months with LVM have proven that it doesn't do a very good job at what I need it to do, and also that my existing archive validation system is way too labour intensive, not to mentioned badly designed. So my options are to build an expensive ZFS box, or give btrfs a try...I'm hoping the mmap and |
| 06:40.32 | nick[0] | preallocation bugs in 3.16.x get fixed soon |
| 06:41.04 | pingfloyd | nick[0]: yeah I keep a 1TB external for backups too |
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| 06:42.03 | jaanz | hey pink, heres a bit of my nginx server config... |
| 06:42.08 | jaanz | server { |
| 06:42.08 | jaanz | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:42.08 | jaanz | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:42.08 | jaanz | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:42.08 | jaanz | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:42.17 | pingfloyd | nick[0]: if it's not for production use, yeah, why not take it for a spin. |
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| 06:42.34 | jaanz | without the comments |
| 06:42.47 | pingfloyd | jaanz: did you try the netstat command? |
| 06:42.50 | jaanz | for YOUR_SERVER_FQDN which is changed to my domain that i wanna acces locally |
| 06:42.51 | jaanz | yeah |
| 06:42.54 | jaanz | nothing on 80 |
| 06:42.58 | pingfloyd | jaanz: ok |
| 06:43.03 | jaanz | but 8080 is being used by my app |
| 06:43.10 | jaanz | that i want to be example.com |
| 06:43.13 | pingfloyd | jaanz: I don't know nginx much |
| 06:43.18 | jaanz | ok |
| 06:43.19 | jaanz | np |
| 06:43.22 | jaanz | thanks for trying to help |
| 06:43.41 | pingfloyd | jaanz: not computers and administration though, it's all the same concept in the end. |
| 06:43.47 | jaanz | yeah |
| 06:43.49 | jaanz | its all the same |
| 06:43.56 | nick[0] | pingfloyd: wise man, to keep proper backups :-) Yeah, tonight I discovered why not...some voodoo COW bug haunted a formatted hard drive image with its previous data |
| 06:44.00 | jaanz | and nginx has nothing to do with DNS |
| 06:44.03 | pingfloyd | it's just trying to figure out how to make a particular piece of software reflect your design |
| 06:44.07 | jaanz | so im trying to solve this dns prolblem |
| 06:44.23 | jaanz | local dns |
| 06:44.32 | pingfloyd | or your architectural plans |
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| 06:45.10 | pingfloyd | can you explain the symptoms? |
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| 06:48.09 | pingfloyd | jaanz: btw, to check your iptables rules you can type: sudo iptables -L -v |
| 06:48.22 | nick[0] | pingfloyd: Sure. Install minimum debian system to vsda using LVM; use a livecd to fsarchive vsda1 and the lv that holds /; put that on vsdb; zero the MBR of vsda from inside the VM; fdisk; restore / from sdb onto a new btrfs / on vsda |
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| 06:50.32 | nick[0] | pingfloyd: I even rebooted the VM before & after changing the partition table...the weird thing was once it was complete, mount was using the old disk data (ghost voodoo COW shit bug), even though blkid reflected the new |
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| 06:52.44 | nick[0] | pingfloyd: based on the symptoms, I'm guessing something in KVM was partially referencing the obsolete extents of the qcow2 image |
| 06:54.02 | nick[0] | pingfloyd: /boot (/dev/sda1) should have no longer existed in the vsda image |
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| 06:55.07 | nick[0] | the data from that partition was written *after* the new btrfs / filled, which tells me that things got really out of order |
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| 06:58.47 | brentaarnold | Has anyone successfully installed Rufus in Debian? |
| 06:58.57 | brentaarnold | Or does everyone prefer Unetbootin? |
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| 07:02.00 | nick[0] | pingfloyd: when I created a new, blank hard drive image and used that for vsda, my plan worked perfectly. Tomorrow I'll have to test it using a USB stick for vsda, to verify the soundness of my plan. After that, I'd like to test taking the fsarchive from an LVM snapshot, to minimize downtime. |
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| 07:11.07 | jaanz | guys |
| 07:11.13 | jaanz | i cant find my /etc/hosts |
| 07:11.22 | jaanz | how do i get to that |
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| 07:12.00 | jaanz | nvm |
| 07:12.07 | jaanz | lol dumb question |
| 07:12.08 | jaanz | got it |
| 07:12.45 | nick[0] | jaanz: :-) had you accidentally deleted it, it would have been easy enough to reconstruct with the help of the 'net |
| 07:13.18 | jaanz | how would i reconstruct it |
| 07:13.21 | jaanz | just want to know for knowledge |
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| 07:14.11 | nick[0] | jaanz: google /etc/hosts example |
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| 07:15.08 | nick[0] | jaanz: the most essential line is 127.0.0.1 localhost |
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| 07:16.16 | nick[0] | jaanz: if you use ipv6, google ipv6 /etc/hosts example. It's pretty much a copy & paste for those funny numbers that replace IP addresses |
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| 07:24.13 | jaanz | 127.0.1.1 my.example.com my |
| 07:24.20 | jaanz | how do i access this from browser |
| 07:24.29 | jaanz | just my.example.com should work right? |
| 07:24.36 | jaanz | its not though thats why im wondering |
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| 09:29.22 | Skyrider | Is there any OS (linux) that can be recommended for installing on a laptop? |
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| 09:29.53 | banjo | Skyrider: debian!? |
| 09:29.57 | banjo | :) |
| 09:30.15 | Skyrider | I figured as much asking in a debian channel ;) |
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| 09:30.58 | banjo | most of distros could be recommended, if you just looking at the laptop component |
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| 09:33.27 | auscompgeek | of course, if you're considering debian, you'll need to be careful with drivers; debian stable has a pretty old kernel... |
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| 09:34.34 | Skyrider | all versions? |
| 09:34.43 | banjo | ask yourself what do you want to do with the laptop. do you care of free software? you want everything preconfigured or is it no problem modifieing some by your self? dou you need latest software or stick with older but therefor you have more stability? |
| 09:35.22 | Skyrider | For now, just media player and possibly wine / Vmware usage. |
| 09:36.28 | banjo | how old is your laptop? |
| 09:37.08 | Skyrider | good Q. |
| 09:37.38 | Skyrider | few years at most, I'd say |
| 09:37.39 | banjo | media players are a lot of in repos, wine is too but vmware you need to install manually or take virtualbox or sometingelse |
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| 09:38.08 | Skyrider | I thought walkop was banned yesterday |
| 09:38.12 | Skyrider | for advertising reasons |
| 09:38.17 | Skyrider | He's doing it again |
| 09:38.40 | banjo | you could check with a live iso if allmost everything works wout of the box. maybe you just need and unfree firmware for wifi. but that shouldnt be the problem |
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| 09:39.45 | banjo | Skyrider: but you can check his gratis show;) |
| 09:40.08 | Skyrider | ... lol |
| 09:40.12 | auscompgeek | urgh not the spambots again |
| 09:41.31 | babilen | smiles |
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| 09:42.10 | banjo | Skyrider: for me debian works fine on my laptop. its an older one too and i have everything i need from the big repo. check https://www.debian.org/intro/about to look behind the scenes |
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| 10:18.50 | rzr_ | How to override firewall in debian |
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| 10:18.58 | rzr_ | is there any kind of ticks or hacks. |
| 10:19.33 | rzr_ | i mean i am using a college wifi and i cant access debian repositories. |
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| 10:28.42 | ScreamerX | what is the idea of debsums? when somebody modifies a binary, this attacker may also alter the localy stored md5sum. isnt it? |
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| 10:32.15 | somiaj | ScreamerX: Correct, but it could be used to determine if a package is corrupt due to downloading over an actual attack |
| 10:32.36 | somiaj | ScreamerX: pluss I think the debsum is a part of the control filed that apt knows, so you can get the offical debsum from outside your actual machine. |
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| 10:34.52 | ScreamerX | somiaj, why are the md5sums of each file of the package not signed? |
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| 10:41.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | dpkg, debsums |
| 10:41.15 | dpkg | methinks debsums is a utility that will check a package's files against their checksums. The "-a" argument will instruct it to also check configuration files: "aptitude install debsums; debsums -a -s". Most packages come with md5sums included in the package; if apt's package cache is clean, then generate missing sums with "aptitude reinstall `debsums -l`". Ask me about <md5sums>. |
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| 10:48.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | Scr..... |
| 10:48.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | no patience |
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| 10:57.28 | coudy | hi, I have configured apt pinning according to this guide> http://serverfault.com/questions/22414/how-can-i-run-debian-stable-but-install-some-packages-from-testing |
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| 10:57.39 | babilen | You really shouldn't do that |
| 10:57.44 | babilen | But go on ... |
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| 10:58.04 | coudy | but everytime when I try apt-get upgrade -V it want upgrade all packages, I want to upgrade only 1 pcakage smstools |
| 10:58.32 | babilen | And the experimental pin in there is just pointless |
| 10:58.45 | coudy | I have only stable and testing .. no exmerimental |
| 10:58.47 | babilen | You would use "apt-get install smstools" for that. |
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| 10:59.01 | moop | babilen: what's wrong with doing that? |
| 10:59.29 | babilen | coudy: I'd like to point out that mixing stable and testing is not supported and you would, IMHO, be much better off tracking testing (or rather jessie) at this point in the release cycle |
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| 11:00.27 | babilen | moop: Packages in stable and testing target different releases that differ quite significantly in the way they are setup and upgrade paths never assume that you mixed these two releases. |
| 11:00.29 | coudy | babilen: yes, I know.. but what for is then this pinning feature ? |
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| 11:01.07 | auscompgeek | *not* mixing packages from stable and testing |
| 11:01.24 | babilen | coudy: I typically use it via apt-listbugs to temporarily pin packages to a specific version. |
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| 11:04.13 | babilen | dpkg: tell coudy -about sid faq |
| 11:04.28 | babilen | And if all you want is smstools then you can backport that |
| 11:04.31 | babilen | judd: v smstools |
| 11:04.32 | judd | Package: smstools on i386 -- squeeze: 3.1.11-1; wheezy: 3.1.14-1.2; sid: 3.1.15-1.1; jessie: 3.1.15-1.1 |
| 11:04.40 | babilen | judd: checkbackport smstools |
| 11:04.41 | judd | Backporting package smstools in sidâwheezy/i386: all build-dependencies satisfied using wheezy. |
| 11:05.04 | coudy | smstools is not in wheezy-backports |
| 11:05.16 | babilen | yes, which is why you would backport it yourself |
| 11:05.22 | babilen | dpkg: tell coudy -about ssb |
| 11:05.27 | babilen | (read the sid faq) |
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| 11:10.45 | coudy | babilen: what for ? I have installed version 3.1.14, but I want to install 3.1.15 which is in testing. If I add deb-src, and run apt-get -b source smstools , version 3.1.14 is compiled |
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| 11:12.06 | HYDRO187 | I love the #dogecoin talk |
| 11:12.17 | HYDRO187 | #joined 8Monthsago |
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| 11:15.50 | bazhang | HYDRO187, please stick to the topic here |
| 11:16.01 | HYDRO187 | yesSir |
| 11:16.02 | auscompgeek | coudy: https://wiki.debian.org/Backports |
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| 11:19.37 | coudy | I'm familiar with backports, but smstools is not in backports |
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| 11:20.28 | coudy | I have tried uupdate with new source package, and then dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us, but it ends with dpkg-buildpackage: error: debian/rules build gave error exit status 2 |
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| 11:21.20 | coudy | patching file src/locking.c |
| 11:21.20 | coudy | Hunk #1 FAILED at 42. |
| 11:21.20 | coudy | 1 out of 1 hunk FAILED -- rejects in file src/locking.c |
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| 11:28.24 | auscompgeek | coudy: https://wiki.debian.org/SimpleBackportCreation |
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| 11:59.59 | Raydiation | is there a way to skip the "press enter to read stuff" when installing a package? |
| 12:00.48 | Raydiation | the only php 5.4 package that im able to find for ubuntu 12.04 has some "please donate if you like and press enter" that halts my ci build https://travis-ci.org/owncloud/ocdev/jobs/43183326#L43 |
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| 12:01.43 | Raydiation | oops :) |
| 12:01.51 | Raydiation | its actually apt-add-repository, sry :) |
| 12:01.57 | Raydiation | nothing from debian |
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| 12:02.31 | dutchfish | Raydiation, i normally use https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/php5 and it doesnt ask that on install |
| 12:03.00 | dutchfish | Raydiation, ah ok |
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| 12:08.37 | eiyos | what command line utility is recommended nowadays for ripping audio CDs without encryption? |
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| 12:09.42 | Zharf | abcde |
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| 12:10.57 | eiyos | Zharf: that's what i thought before but it is at rank 8000 in popcon |
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| 12:11.22 | Zharf | who cares about popcon |
| 12:11.23 | dutchfish | eiyos, you could try cdparanoia |
| 12:11.30 | Zharf | not many people rip cds nowadays either |
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| 12:12.10 | dutchfish | eiyos, thats how it did it in a batch (option B if i am not mistaken) |
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| 12:12.21 | eiyos | Zharf, dutchfish: right, abcde uses cdparanoia. But if it is so good I wonder why it is so (relatively) unpopular by Debian users |
| 12:12.58 | dutchfish | eiyos, no idea, but frankly i dont use it that often |
| 12:13.00 | Zharf | I would say majority of the people wouldn't use command line utilities |
| 12:13.18 | Zharf | I would, and the last CD I ripped was around 6 years ago |
| 12:13.36 | eiyos | Zharf: generally, what is popular sucks. But in Debian, software ranked high in popcon (except graphical stuff that is installed automatically) is quite decent |
| 12:14.26 | eiyos | really, I thought most computer people would rip CDs not as often as like 10 years ago but I thought at least a couple a times a year... |
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| 12:15.38 | eiyos | Zharf, dutchfish: thanks, I will go for abcde. Anyway, it's the tool I used about five years ago and i liked it for being easy to use after it's configured |
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| 12:40.12 | bsdbeard | If a package was only built on m68k, is it still possible I can build it on i386? |
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| 12:43.22 | Quatroking | hi |
| 12:43.42 | Quatroking | Can I run debian on a VIA C3 550mhz machine with 512mb ram? |
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| 12:44.35 | cast | sure |
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| 12:45.01 | bsdbeard | Quatroking, Probably not with the gnome DE, but yeah |
| 12:45.08 | Quatroking | and will it actually run decent or can I expect massive slowdowns everywhere |
| 12:45.38 | Quatroking | it currently runs win2k and serves as a torrentbox but it's awfully slow whenever I want to do anything on it |
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| 12:46.02 | msrd0 | Quatroking: if you want to use a swap partition and a DE your system will slow down, but without swap (so no DE) the system will not slow down |
| 12:46.28 | Quatroking | DE = desktop environment? |
| 12:46.32 | bsdbeard | Quatroking, If you don't need a graphical interface it will run great, especially if you can enable kMS |
| 12:46.33 | msrd0 | yes |
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| 12:46.56 | Quatroking | I'll probably be needing that for the sake of usability |
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| 12:47.20 | bsdbeard | IMO it has great usabiliy without X, but that depends on the user |
| 12:47.24 | Quatroking | on the other hand, not really, if I just have it run a torrent client with webUI |
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| 12:48.25 | msrd0 | Quatroking: There are light-DE's available (like LXDE), you can try to run them, but for normal ones like Gnome or KDE you'll need more ram |
| 12:48.27 | Quatroking | right now it's doing win2k and I control the utorrent client on it through my browser, I'm hoping to switch over to a linux environment and run rtorrent or whatever |
| 12:49.12 | bsdbeard | I'm currently running awesome as my DE, watching a movie and have a browser with ~20 tabs open, + running vim and irssi, it's only using 250 MB RAM |
| 12:49.31 | cast | gnome and kde are dogs, run e16 or icevm or *box |
| 12:50.28 | cynicallemon | bsdbeard: is that lynx youre running :) |
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| 12:50.36 | bsdbeard | cynicallemon, iceweasel |
| 12:50.46 | msrd0 | bsdbeard: this really depends on the DE you use, KDE normally has about 400 MB RAM after booting, but as soon as I open a browser (not Konqueror) I have more than 512 MB RAM |
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| 12:51.54 | bsdbeard | msrd0, my DE uses 19 MB RAM according to TOP |
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| 12:52.36 | cynicallemon | bsdbeard: is that a vm? |
| 12:52.40 | wols | bsdbeard: you sure it's not simply a WM. there is a difference you know |
| 12:53.06 | bsdbeard | wols, what' the difference? |
| 12:53.16 | wols | the WM is part of a DE, it is not a DE |
| 12:53.21 | Quatroking | What would I require for a network-based installation? |
| 12:53.22 | wols | kinda like calling your engine a car |
| 12:53.42 | Quatroking | the little seedbox doesn't have usb-boot support nor does it have a CD drive |
| 12:53.46 | bsdbeard | wols, I don't see anything my 'WM' doesn't provide that a DE does |
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| 12:53.58 | bsdbeard | unlike the car/engine analogy |
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| 12:54.17 | Quatroking | I *could* open it up, connect a drive to the IDE and power it using an external PSU, but that's anything but convenient |
| 12:54.18 | cynicallemon | Quatroking: transmission daemon is a good torrent server |
| 12:54.20 | factor | How can I setup a proxy pac URL file on debian |
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| 12:56.00 | Quatroking | best way to set up TFTP net booting would be by using another machine that's already running a flavour of linux, right |
| 12:56.11 | bsdbeard | ,v qucs |
| 12:56.12 | judd | Package: qucs on i386 -- squeeze: 0.0.15-1 |
| 12:56.13 | Quatroking | I've got a laptop running ubuntu, guess I could use that |
| 12:56.52 | bsdbeard | why can't I get the qucs source with sudo apt-get -b source qucs? it says it's built on sid, that means the source must be in the repos (Ihave deb-src ... sid in myst sources.list) |
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| 12:57.39 | Quatroking | here's my plan: perform netboot on a different machine to test it all out, set up what I need, test it thoroughly and if all goes well throw it life |
| 12:57.49 | abrotman | bsdbeard: it's only in squeeze |
| 12:58.09 | bsdbeard | abrotman, https://packages.debian.org/sid/qucs |
| 12:58.22 | bsdbeard | I must be missing something |
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| 12:59.20 | abrotman | bsdbeard: note teh available architectures |
| 12:59.47 | bsdbeard | abrotman, But the source is architecture independent |
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| 12:59.56 | bsdbeard | I mean it's not written in asm |
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| 13:02.12 | abrotman | bsdbeard: it's not in the normal archives, it's in debports |
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| 13:02.20 | bsdbeard | ah |
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| 13:28.47 | dutchfish | bsdbeard, there is also https://launchpad.net/~qucs/+archive/ubuntu/qucs/+build/6316232 which can be ported to debian/jessie |
| 13:29.25 | dutchfish | bsdbeard, which is qucs 0.0.18 (latest) |
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| 13:30.11 | bsdbeard | dutchfish, I saw that a few minues ago, added deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/qucs/qucs/ubuntu precise main, think it will work on wheezy |
| 13:30.26 | dutchfish | bsdbeard, it will not work on wheezy |
| 13:30.33 | bsdbeard | why not? |
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| 13:30.51 | dutchfish | bsdbeard, i tried that in past, i think its gtk related |
| 13:31.04 | bsdbeard | It uses Qt |
| 13:31.16 | dutchfish | bsdbeard, ah yes, Qt |
| 13:31.39 | dutchfish | bsdbeard, it builds however in debian/jessy |
| 13:31.47 | dutchfish | s/jessy/jessie |
| 13:31.49 | bsdbeard | I seee |
| 13:31.57 | dutchfish | with some minor changes |
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| 13:32.51 | dutchfish | bsdbeard, too bad it will not be in jessie, i use qucs alot |
| 13:33.19 | bsdbeard | dutchfish, Is it like ltspice or even easier? |
| 13:33.47 | dutchfish | bsdbeard, different, not easier, but ones you get around with the nets, it does all i need |
| 13:34.13 | dutchfish | bsdbeard, including filters, an rf feedlines |
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| 13:35.30 | dutchfish | bsdbeard, for active components i use ltspice mainly |
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| 13:35.57 | bsdbeard | dutchfish, you run it on wine? |
| 13:36.16 | dutchfish | bsdbeard, no, i run it on kvm |
| 13:36.32 | dutchfish | (ltspice) |
| 13:36.57 | dutchfish | bsdbeard, that saves me alot of headaches with wine |
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| 13:39.16 | bsdbeard | dutchfish, qucs works fine for me on wheezy |
| 13:39.27 | bsdbeard | dutchfish, from the ppa |
| 13:39.31 | dutchfish | bsdbeard, the old version yes |
| 13:39.36 | bsdbeard | 17.0.02 |
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| 13:40.28 | bsdbeard | err, I mean 0.0.17.2 |
| 13:40.33 | dutchfish | bsdbeard, or did you upgrade QT from backports? |
| 13:40.38 | dutchfish | ah ok |
| 13:40.54 | bsdbeard | dutchfish, I think the latest is 0.0.18 so I'm just one version behind |
| 13:41.05 | dutchfish | fair enough |
| 13:41.26 | bsdbeard | lets see if this works |
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| 13:43.41 | dutchfish | bsdbeard, https://launchpad.net/~qucs/+archive/ubuntu/qucs/+packages |
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| 13:43.53 | g00se | A globbing wtf - can you tell me why? http://sprunge.us/eBHi |
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| 13:47.17 | p0st | what ports do I need to forward to get xrdp to work over inet? |
| 13:47.56 | bsdbeard | dutchfish, When I try to simulate it seems to get stuck on "creating netlist..." |
| 13:48.07 | g00se | Normal rdp (iirc) is 3800 |
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| 13:48.48 | dutchfish | bsdbeard, i think that not a package problem, but qucs is finicky about a correct netlist setup, mostly it barfs at missing ground nets and power nets |
| 13:49.26 | dutchfish | bsdbeard, try a simple example first |
| 13:49.29 | RobertClarke | Off to the datacenter today, can't wait for that 1gbit uplink |
| 13:49.33 | g00se | Sorry 3389 |
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| 13:50.46 | p0st | is it any way to change the standard port? |
| 13:51.40 | bsdbeard | dutchfish, this looks about right? http://i.imgur.com/t9eggKN.jpg |
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| 13:52.42 | wols | p0st: if you are port forwarding you can change what port the router forwards to the internal ip:port. |
| 13:53.09 | wols | e.g. you can tell the router to forward prot 12345 on the internet interface to your PC at 192.168.0.10 port 3389 |
| 13:53.24 | wols | and yes you can change the port in your rdp software too usually. which rdp server do you use? |
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| 13:55.55 | dutchfish | bsdbeard, let me try this in 0.08 a sec |
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| 14:03.15 | bsdbeard | dutchfish, apparently qucs won't create the netlist if you add a ground directly to a DC source, I added a wire between source and ground and now it works |
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| 14:05.10 | dutchfish | bsdbeard, http://www.yellowsource.org/screenshots/debian_jessie_qucs)0.0.18.png |
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| 14:06.26 | dutchfish | bsdbeard, yes, it needs flawless netlist setup |
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| 14:10.19 | g00se | Have perms on home directories changed? Didn't they use to be 0755? |
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| 14:11.05 | g00se | thinks perhaps that might depend on desktop env too? |
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| 14:25.24 | g00se | Can someone running Jessie please tell me what the perms are on ~/Documents please? |
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| 14:27.41 | wols | g00se: whatever they are for your ~ |
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| 14:29.23 | g00se | wols: I would have thought so. Must be borked |
| 14:29.24 | dutchfish | g00se, per default in jessie for ~/Documents drwxr-xr-x but if you ar really paranoid, that won't do, see LPI 1 |
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| 14:29.48 | g00se | I've got drwx--S--- |
| 14:30.00 | wols | dutchfish: is ~ 755 too? isn't there a choice where you can make it totally private |
| 14:30.18 | dutchfish | g00se, that isnt by no means a default setup |
| 14:30.52 | dutchfish | g00se, delve into LPI 1 and 2 |
| 14:30.56 | g00se | Sorry dutchfish - you fried my brain there with multiple negatives ;) |
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| 14:31.25 | dutchfish | g00se, be more specific, is this debian related? |
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| 14:32.21 | g00se | Indeed. That's why i wanted to know what it's meant to be in Jessie |
| 14:32.23 | dutchfish | wols, 700 would be separation for other users, that doesnt include root |
| 14:33.16 | dutchfish | wols, its after all user, group, others |
| 14:33.53 | wols | I remember some debconf question where it asks if I want to make my /home/ private, so 700 for each user. probably the debconf for /etc/skell or such |
| 14:34.05 | g00se | thinks he's going to chmod -R 755 and hope nothing Jessie-new breaks |
| 14:34.10 | dutchfish | wols, exactly right, yes |
| 14:34.39 | ghormoon | hi, any idea what to do, when I have ntfs partition mounted and can't run scripts which have 777? bash ./script will do, but ./script will say permission denied |
| 14:34.44 | dutchfish | g00se, it shouldnt and it wont, unless its not a debian |
| 14:34.49 | g00se | Shouldn't it just repro the perms of /etc/skel? |
| 14:35.55 | dutchfish | g00se, again, read LPI 1 & 2, and yes, /etc/skel determines stuff on user creation, it wont maintain changes that has been done manually afterwords |
| 14:36.22 | g00se | Oh no, i didn't expect that. Thanks for LPI stuff |
| 14:36.22 | abrotman | dutchfish: only if the directory exists in there |
| 14:36.33 | dutchfish | abrotman, right |
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| 14:37.02 | g00se | must have borked Documents perms copying stuff |
| 14:37.03 | dutchfish | g00se, yw |
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| 14:39.34 | dutchfish | g00se, not neccesarely, rem that testing is still a moving target |
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| 14:40.26 | dutchfish | g00se, even for the base system components |
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| 14:42.57 | g00se | Hmm yes, that would be a bit weird though would it not? ;) |
| 14:43.12 | DanteLA | Hi. Anyone know a tool to install .deb packages graphically? I'm using KDE version and in Dolphin it says "Your current backend does not support installing files" |
| 14:43.16 | dutchfish | g00se, i wouldnt be surprised if it was ..... |
| 14:43.29 | DanteLA | I could do it on command line, but I never remember the command, hate looking it up |
| 14:43.43 | dutchfish | .testing |
| 14:43.54 | dutchfish | !testing |
| 14:43.54 | dpkg | Testing is a continuously updated release between <stable> and <unstable>, currently codenamed <jessie>. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting and ask me about <testing faq> <wheezy->jessie> <testing security> <moving target> <dda> <apt-listchanges> <apt-listbugs> and <bts>. You should have a sound knowledge of Debian packaging and be prepared for a bumpy ride at times. Don't use it on things that are critical or on servers. |
| 14:44.57 | ghormoon | nvm, solved, missing exec in -o |
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| 14:45.50 | dutchfish | ghormoon, or chmod +x <foo>, but figuring it out on your own, tens to never forget it anymore ;) |
| 14:46.13 | dutchfish | s/tens/tends |
| 14:47.00 | ghormoon | dutchfish: nope, chmod didn't work |
| 14:47.02 | mtn | DanteLA: gdebi will do what you want, but I don't know how much or any of gnome it will pull in. |
| 14:47.09 | ghormoon | until I had -o exec on the filesystem |
| 14:47.21 | dutchfish | ghormoon, ah, ok |
| 14:47.35 | ghormoon | the problem was it was 777 and still getting permission denied |
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| 14:53.40 | virtualizado | Can someone tell me if i need CUPS to just use a local usb printer? CUPS is just needed if i use a network printer? |
| 14:53.54 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps |
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| 14:54.11 | SirLagz | virtualizado: cups is needed for local usb printer |
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| 14:54.19 | Eryn_1983_FL | so when i upgrade packages.. |
| 14:54.26 | virtualizado | SirLagz: Thanks! |
| 14:54.29 | Eryn_1983_FL | is it just the kernel |
| 14:54.54 | Eryn_1983_FL | that i have to reboot on updates |
| 14:55.17 | virtualizado | Can somebody tell me what to uninstall to remove all remote login possibilities on my debian? |
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| 14:55.58 | wols | virtualizado: how will your root user log in then to actually work on the system? |
| 14:56.08 | SirLagz | virtualizado: unplug the computer from the network ? |
| 14:56.31 | virtualizado | I just want to remove REMOTE login, not local login. |
| 14:56.48 | virtualizado | I mean for hardening my debian. |
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| 14:57.16 | virtualizado | I do not use things like ssh etc, so what is used to remote login? |
| 14:57.44 | SirLagz | virtualizado: ssh covers most of it. VNC if you have that installed, XDMCP maybe |
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| 14:58.42 | virtualizado | so, if someone remotly login on my debian through the internet, will it be by ssh, telnet, and vnc? |
| 14:59.16 | SirLagz | virtualizado: unless your debian box has those ports exposed to the WWW, no one will be logging into it. |
| 14:59.56 | virtualizado | SirLagz Thanks again :) |
| 15:00.02 | SirLagz | virtualizado: no problems |
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| 15:01.34 | SirLagz | fail indeed.... |
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| 15:03.19 | dutchfish | virtualizado, unless your box has been setup with a tunnel, like openvpn, thats another possibility, to remotely access that box, but nothing when your firewall does not allow that either |
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| 15:06.16 | virtualizado | dutchfish: yes, i use openvpn sometimes, and if i do not use remote logins on my box, the wisest thing is to block it with more than a firewall, like removing |
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| 15:06.43 | dutchfish | virtualizado, true. Only install what you need |
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| 15:07.15 | virtualizado | so i do: sudo spt-get --purge remove ssh* ??? |
| 15:07.21 | virtualizado | apt* |
| 15:07.44 | dutchfish | virtualizado, well, you probably want the client part, but remove the openssh server part |
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| 15:09.21 | virtualizado | dutchfish: so i won't remove all ssh packages? just removing server will disable all remote login possibility? i find the server packages in synaptic? |
| 15:09.32 | dutchfish | virtualizado, yes |
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| 15:10.02 | dutchfish | virtualizado, iow openssh-server |
| 15:10.09 | virtualizado | dutchfish: ok master, lemme try here, thanks in advance and i tell you if i got it in a few minutes |
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| 15:12.49 | dutchfish | virtualizado, and netstat -l (as root) will give you all the listening sockets and ports, which talk remotely if the firewall alows it |
| 15:13.19 | dutchfish | virtualizado, there you can see what is and isnt talking |
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| 15:15.15 | dutchfish | (that includes localhost btw) |
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| 15:17.11 | HelloShitty | hi |
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| 15:17.40 | HelloShitty | What are the main repsitory links to place in sources.list for jessie distro? |
| 15:18.10 | SirLagz | !jessie |
| 15:18.10 | dpkg | The release following Debian 7 "Wheezy" is codenamed "Jessie" (the cowgirl in Toy Story 2) and will be Debian 8.0. It is the current <testing> distribution. Use the #debian-next channel on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net) for support. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2012/07/msg00004.html . See also <jessie alpha>, <jessie freeze>. |
| 15:18.36 | virtualizado | dutchfish: i have even SUNRPC listening, i do not like that name, does it allow remote login too? Can you take a look at my netstat -l stats? http://pastebin.com/jhSG04yN |
| 15:19.19 | SirLagz | virtualizado: you want to keep that. otherwise things will break. |
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| 15:20.45 | virtualizado | SirLagz: any recomendation of what things shall i remove that i do not use as a normal desktop user that came from windows? |
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| 15:22.04 | virtualizado | i see i have MYSQL here, i think AKONADI uses it, for what i researched, is there a way to remove that sql remote acess? |
| 15:22.28 | SirLagz | virtualizado: unless the port is open to the internet, you don't have anything to worry about. |
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| 15:23.48 | dutchfish | virtualizado, as SirLagz suggests, keep it, one step further is to make a it listen local only in its config, but if your fiewall blocks it, it is considered safe |
| 15:25.23 | virtualizado | SirLagz: I did read on linux there is the port 0 exploit that PRISM uses, that makes the system find the next usuable port for something and that bypass the firewall with a hardware exploit. Knowing that there are exploits in firewall, and even some DDOS ones, i did read about another exploit too when the ISP drops your connection and some autoconfig creates eth1, eth2 etc and that bypass some security made for eth0 etc |
| 15:25.24 | dutchfish | virtualizado, yes, its part of akonadi, and your local lan stuff, needs it, like printers and more |
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| 15:26.26 | dutchfish | virtualizado, if you want to be really paranoid, you can block it by its prcbind cnofig to lsten only on localhost |
| 15:26.35 | dutchfish | rpcbind* |
| 15:26.40 | dutchfish | config* |
| 15:26.46 | dutchfish | sorry for my many typos |
| 15:26.53 | SirLagz | virtualizado: if you're that paranoid, pull the network cable. |
| 15:27.01 | dutchfish | :) |
| 15:27.15 | dutchfish | SirLagz, also he has a point ..... |
| 15:27.27 | virtualizado | dutchfish: rpcbind? ima research that, i am sometimes slow because i am 14 years and my english is still bad but ima look how i do that |
| 15:28.21 | dutchfish | virtualizado, np, read up on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Portmap |
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| 15:28.33 | SirLagz | dutchfish: I figure, if NSA want something *that* bad on me, they'll just send the FBI after me lol |
| 15:28.44 | virtualizado | SirLagz: is not just paranoid thing, i like to research safety for personal computers, and my aim coming to linux from windows was to have the most safe system i could manage to configure by my own. |
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| 15:28.58 | SirLagz | the safest system is one that |
| 15:29.00 | dutchfish | SirLagz, there is more then just that org. in the world ;) |
| 15:29.01 | SirLagz | the safest system is one that's not online. |
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| 15:29.05 | SirLagz | dutchfish: true |
| 15:29.29 | dutchfish | SirLagz, i wish my students where that paranoid ;) |
| 15:29.33 | SirLagz | dutchfish: haha |
| 15:29.34 | virtualizado | brb |
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| 15:30.02 | SirLagz | I have all ports blocked by default...I wonder if port 0 would still make it through |
| 15:30.21 | dutchfish | SirLagz, dont assume, test it |
| 15:30.25 | p0st | anyone know a program like PlexMediaCenter that u can use to stream accross internet but thats not Plex? |
| 15:30.40 | SirLagz | p0st: youtube ? What are you trying to do ? |
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| 15:30.59 | p0st | streaming my own movies/tvshows/music |
| 15:31.06 | p0st | accross inet |
| 15:31.10 | p0st | when Im away |
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| 15:31.19 | p0st | on other comps and pads |
| 15:31.27 | SirLagz | p0st: how much upload bandwidth do you have on your home internet connection ? |
| 15:31.35 | p0st | 100mbit+ |
| 15:31.45 | SirLagz | you have 100mbit upload ?!? |
| 15:31.48 | p0st | yeah |
| 15:31.51 | SirLagz | wow. |
| 15:32.04 | SirLagz | i'd just use a VPN connection in that case. |
| 15:32.12 | SirLagz | VPN home, stream as if you were on the LAN |
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| 15:32.59 | p0st | make a vpn and map up hdds from the server? |
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| 15:33.15 | SirLagz | p0st: do you already have plex or something like that working ? |
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| 15:34.41 | p0st | no |
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| 15:35.09 | p0st | but been reading up on plex and dont like the login stuff where you have to signup to get access to your own server etc |
| 15:36.03 | SirLagz | p0st: i use minidlna to stream to my boxes |
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| 15:37.21 | SirLagz | i need to find a USB stick that can handle Debian being installed onto it =/ |
| 15:37.25 | p0st | over internet? |
| 15:37.35 | SirLagz | p0st: no, I don't have the bandwidth to stream over the internet |
| 15:37.45 | SirLagz | p0st: but I can imagine being able to do that with minidlna and a vpn |
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| 15:38.12 | p0st | well, Im just thinking here as Im not good with linux |
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| 15:38.33 | p0st | but if you setup a vpn and I connect to that from another place |
| 15:38.45 | p0st | that should be like Im on my own network at home |
| 15:38.49 | SirLagz | yes |
| 15:38.56 | p0st | then I should be able to map up network hdds |
| 15:39.04 | SirLagz | sure |
| 15:39.05 | p0st | that I have shared at home |
| 15:39.10 | SirLagz | if you wanted to do it that way |
| 15:39.36 | p0st | then I allso could add thise network hdds in xbmc |
| 15:39.47 | p0st | should work I think |
| 15:39.52 | SirLagz | sounds like it would work |
| 15:40.06 | p0st | know if xbmc buffers? |
| 15:40.11 | SirLagz | yes it does |
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| 15:42.09 | p0st | sounds like a good option to do it this way then if you ask me :) |
| 15:42.22 | p0st | just need to find some guide on how to do it then |
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| 15:43.15 | SirLagz | indeed |
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| 15:48.24 | mc_fail | hi guys, does anybody changed a screen resolution in grub? |
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| 15:48.59 | abrotman | mc_fail: this is documented in the grub documentation |
| 15:49.07 | mc_fail | i have a laptop with 1366x768 screen, i've tried to use some grub_gfx modes, but it looks like it supports only 4:3 |
| 15:49.26 | user14 | mcfail do you mean for Xwindows? |
| 15:49.41 | user14 | or grub itself |
| 15:49.41 | mc_fail | abrotman yeah, i've already read it, but still, i couldn't find something about 16:9 |
| 15:49.51 | mc_fail | user14 i mean grub2 itself |
| 15:49.57 | user14 | ahh |
| 15:50.02 | mc_fail | (and the kernel, actually) |
| 15:50.38 | user14 | just discovered using linux64 takes a couple extra seconds to start and looks like it crashed meanwhile |
| 15:51.07 | mc_fail | because it boots with 640x480, and it keeps being 640x480 until i entered a luks code |
| 15:51.22 | mc_fail | it seems quietly ugly |
| 15:51.39 | user14 | at least you can read it mcfail until X starts |
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| 15:53.12 | mc_fail | yes, my qestion is geneeraly just about apperance)) |
| 15:53.36 | mc_fail | oh, "you can only use modes which your graphics card supports via VESA BIOS Extensions" grub documentation says |
| 15:54.29 | mc_fail | shit, whe they designed a 4:3 resolution in firmware for 16:9 laptop... |
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| 15:57.56 | abrotman | mc_fail: google "grub2 gfxmode" |
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| 16:09.27 | mc_fail | and another one question: i have some kind of strange problem with iceweasel, it says "The server rejected the handshake because the client downgraded to a lower TLS version than the server supports." when i trying to connect to my web-server with ssl-authentification |
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| 16:10.10 | mc_fail | i have an pre-installed certificate in browser, and i catually enabled all tls versions in the web-server configuration |
| 16:10.22 | mc_fail | *actually |
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| 16:11.08 | mc_fail | i can see this bug only in iceweasel, in chrome verything is ok |
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| 16:11.47 | mc_fail | i actually have another one server with the same ssl-authentification, but based on jbos, and everuthing is ok here |
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| 16:16.10 | debia | hi |
| 16:16.29 | debia | using mini-dinstall as private debian repo and being very happy with it. |
| 16:16.37 | debia | However, what http server should I use? apache2? nginx? |
| 16:16.43 | debia | to serve the deb files? |
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| 16:19.31 | mc_fail | debia i'd recommend something like nginx or lighttpd |
| 16:19.47 | mc_fail | because debian repo is generally static content |
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| 16:22.12 | virtualizado | i am trying to harden my debian, is tehre a way to REMOVE cups listening on network, since i have only 1 computer and 1 printer dirrectly plugged into my computer? |
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| 16:25.23 | mc_fail | virtualizado leave just localhost listen option in cupsd.conf |
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| 16:48.21 | Quatroking | which DE uses the least resources? XFCE or LXDE? |
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| 16:49.59 | Nach0z | I think XFCE is technically lighter, dunno that it's by much though |
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| 16:50.20 | Quatroking | I'm mostly concerned about ram usage |
| 16:50.37 | Quatroking | working with a 512mb system here, with a VIA C3 550mhz cpu |
| 16:50.53 | mtn | Quatroking: you could use a wm instead, say openbox, for instance |
| 16:51.30 | Quatroking | what's the different? |
| 16:51.34 | Quatroking | difference* |
| 16:51.42 | mtn | Quatroking: lighter and more work to set up. |
| 16:52.19 | mtn | Quatroking: you can research these things on google, wikipedia and the archlinux wiki |
| 16:52.25 | Quatroking | alright |
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| 16:52.37 | Quatroking | according to the net lxde uses less ram than xfce so I'll go with that for now |
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| 16:52.57 | Quatroking | I can remote control debian using other linux machines, right |
| 16:53.06 | Quatroking | as in remote terminal |
| 16:53.08 | smokesifter | Quatroking: yeah, though ssh |
| 16:53.17 | smokesifter | run tasksel |
| 16:53.17 | Quatroking | neat, never done that before |
| 16:53.21 | smokesifter | select ssh server |
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| 16:54.05 | smokesifter | then you can read about the specifics on the internet. Its kinda complicated all the things you can do, and I really do feel bad about basically saying rtfm |
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| 16:54.19 | smokesifter | you can even run X applications remotely |
| 16:54.53 | Quatroking | planning on simply setting up a torrent client and controlling that through WebUI though |
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| 16:55.17 | Quatroking | after years I've decided to finally move from win2k to linux lol |
| 16:55.36 | smokesifter | bonus points if you still have the same computer |
| 16:55.52 | Quatroking | I installed win2k on it in 2008 or so |
| 16:56.02 | smokesifter | heh |
| 16:56.06 | Quatroking | back then it only had 128mb ram I think |
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| 16:56.19 | Quatroking | it's a VIA Epia M mini-itx machine, really nice hardware to work with |
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| 16:58.11 | smokesifter | This is the first PC I've built that I expect to last more than 2 years |
| 16:58.20 | smokesifter | everything else has been as bare bones basic as I could make it |
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| 17:08.05 | wolfmitchell | Um, is a package supposed to depend on a -dbg package of something? |
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| 17:16.42 | debia | What subdomain would you use for a private debian repository? apt.domain.tld? deb.domain.tld? |
| 17:16.44 | debia | ideas? |
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| 17:19.13 | debia | hm |
| 17:19.14 | debia | silence |
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| 17:23.34 | ChrisH | hugo.domain.tld or www.domain.tld/debian or whatever... that does not care... but who should use that repo? |
| 17:24.01 | ChrisH | !frankendebian |
| 17:24.02 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
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| 17:24.20 | ChrisH | debia: this is not Ubuntu with PPAs |
| 17:24.39 | debia | ChrisH: I meant a dedicated company-wide package repository |
| 17:24.51 | debia | I am assigning domains to them now, I am looking for a reasonable name. |
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| 17:27.08 | trampel | debian.companyname.tld [shrug] |
| 17:27.26 | lord_rob | Hi! I have a Skype account (I think I should say "I had" but well) I was used to use with my main PC (Skype 4.3 DEB). I tried to connect a few hours ago with my laptop and an older version of Skype so it didn't work. I then installed the current version and now my account is locked "for security reason". Note that I'm not using a Microsoft passport thing, just a good old skype account ... anyone experienced the problem ? |
| 17:28.26 | debia | trampel: hm, debian is too generic. it could be also something debian-related like mirrored setup files. |
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| 17:31.35 | g00se | prefers the former |
| 17:32.22 | g00se | says oops - he was responding to something _very_ much up-screen ;) |
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| 17:35.39 | p0st | hey, Im following this guide to setup openvpn |
| 17:35.39 | p0st | https://stavrovski.net/blog/how-to-install-and-set-up-openvpn-in-debian-7-wheezy |
| 17:35.58 | p0st | and seems Im getting to step 13 without problems |
| 17:36.10 | mc_fail | does anyone had some font rendering problems with chrome on unstable? |
| 17:36.11 | lord_rob | (problem fixed) |
| 17:36.35 | p0st | but when Im trying to restart service in step 14 I get error |
| 17:36.39 | mc_fail | in my browser every sans-serif font looks like http://armarium.org/u/2014/12/06/67585a.png |
| 17:36.42 | p0st | [ ok ] Stopping virtual private network daemon:. |
| 17:36.42 | p0st | [FAIL] Starting virtual private network daemon: server failed! |
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| 17:37.12 | lord_rob | mc_fail: #debian-next (irc.debian.net) |
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| 17:37.50 | ChrisH | debia: then I would use apt or http/ftp for that. |
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| 17:39.04 | jhutchins | mc_fail: You might ask in #debian-next on oftc.net - more people there use testing/sid. |
| 17:39.39 | debia | ChrisH: yes, apt seems to be reasonable, good |
| 17:41.06 | mc_fail | jhutchins, lord_rob ok, thank you i'm trying to remember how to configure irc client now)) |
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| 18:06.49 | bolt | I'm having issues getting the patch from linux-patch-grsecurity2 to apply cleanly on linux-source-3.2 in stable |
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| 18:08.26 | bolt | i get multiple failed hunks and some detections of the kernel already being patched |
| 18:08.37 | bolt | do I need to apply it against an older kernel source? |
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| 18:11.25 | lord_rob | mc_fail: you're welcome - says the guy who's exceptionally running wheezy ;) |
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| 18:24.28 | brontosaurusrex | is there something that would generate a client-side (javascript?) search engine from a set of static html (or markdown) pages? (The results must work offline as well) |
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| 18:39.37 | Quatroking | if I want to remotely access my debian machine I have to install the ssh server, right? |
| 18:40.30 | vedranm | Quatroking: yes |
| 18:41.06 | Quatroking | gaaah, pressed enter while having ssh server selected and it just continued the install |
| 18:41.15 | Quatroking | now I have to install it manually afterwards ugggghhh |
| 18:41.26 | vedranm | Quatroking: you're right |
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| 18:49.43 | natsukao1 | hi |
| 18:50.50 | natsukao1 | how to decompile *.exe files and to see the source code to write a new free software and to port as *.deb ? |
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| 18:53.35 | hrnz | top kek |
| 18:53.57 | natsukao1 | kek ? |
| 18:54.05 | Eryn_1983_FL | why guys why dont this sudo work |
| 18:54.09 | Eryn_1983_FL | http://pastebin.com/kUjsd5Z0 |
| 18:54.13 | Eryn_1983_FL | its driving me nuts |
| 18:54.35 | ompaul | why safe upgrade |
| 18:54.42 | swordsmanz | natsukao1 are you being serious |
| 18:54.43 | ompaul | that seems like a good way to break the box |
| 18:54.51 | cheesecake | Eryn_1983_FL try apt-get update |
| 18:54.55 | cheesecake | maybe it'l work. |
| 18:55.12 | ompaul | Eryn_1983_FL: have you identified with your own password |
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| 18:55.34 | ompaul | but safe-upgrade is between version 6 and 7 not 7 and testing |
| 18:55.39 | ompaul | and you do it once |
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| 18:55.56 | ompaul | you run dist-upgrade if you are on SID or testing |
| 18:56.02 | CheckDavid | Does Debian come with a virtual machine application? |
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| 18:56.43 | ompaul | CheckDavid: depending on what you mean it is mostly likely yes as answer |
| 18:56.50 | natsukao1 | yes, i need to decompile *.exe |
| 18:57.22 | CheckDavid | ompaul: what would be the name of it? |
| 18:57.39 | ompaul | CheckDavid: search for this kvm debian and you will need to check out qemu als |
| 18:57.41 | ompaul | also |
| 18:57.43 | natsukao1 | you must to know that many hamradio transceivers can do update with *.exe or other strange ones |
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| 18:58.01 | ompaul | natsukao1: try wine |
| 18:58.08 | CheckDavid | ompaul: google? |
| 18:58.21 | ompaul | !tell natsukao1 about wine |
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| 18:58.40 | ompaul | CheckDavid: or some other search engine - you are looking for th wiki.debian.net in the answer |
| 18:58.53 | Eryn_1983_FL | erin is apart of the L2 group it should work find |
| 18:58.54 | Eryn_1983_FL | fine |
| 18:58.59 | ompaul | CheckDavid: also good to read about kvm out there on the internet |
| 18:59.02 | natsukao1 | i found a unit called TM D710 RC D710, which works with *.exe |
| 18:59.09 | CheckDavid | ompaul: I don't find anything like VirtualBox or the sorts in the menu on my current debian |
| 18:59.24 | natsukao1 | i am not interested to give support to non free software |
| 18:59.29 | ompaul | CheckDavid: you have to install it - let me get the bot to see your software |
| 18:59.38 | ompaul | natsukao1: so don't get .exe based boxes |
| 18:59.44 | ompaul | natsukao1: and no you can't get there from here |
| 19:00.09 | CheckDavid | Which one is recommended? I wanted to run Windows on a VM. |
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| 19:00.17 | ompaul | CheckDavid: kvm will do that afik |
| 19:00.20 | natsukao1 | i am interested to decompile, start to read and write from scratch the non free software in a free software version |
| 19:00.27 | ompaul | CheckDavid: I don't care for windows myself |
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| 19:00.55 | natsukao1 | and then ? which decompiler ? |
| 19:00.57 | ompaul | natsukao1: then you run the windows software and read the inputs and outputs and do reverse engineering that is the right way = |
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| 19:01.28 | ompaul | natsukao1: and that is far as I can help you with that - I have no more data |
| 19:01.49 | natsukao1 | that is not the way to decompile the *.exe in *.src |
| 19:02.00 | CheckDavid | ompaul: I don't care either but I need :'( |
| 19:02.03 | natsukao1 | thank you |
| 19:02.17 | CheckDavid | Society forcing me to use Windows ompaul |
| 19:02.38 | ompaul | CheckDavid: your choice to use a computer. |
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| 19:02.59 | ompaul | CheckDavid: kvm will run some windows stuff please search for it ;) |
| 19:03.00 | CheckDavid | ompaul: what do you mean my choice to use a computer? |
| 19:03.11 | CheckDavid | Ok, so I need to install it right? |
| 19:03.28 | ompaul | CheckDavid please read what the bot sent you so you do it right |
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| 19:04.03 | ompaul | CheckDavid: and yes it is something you install |
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| 19:04.45 | CheckDavid | ompaul: it's general advice right? |
| 19:05.09 | natsukao1 | anyway i said that the unit KENWOOD RC-D710 for TM-D710 or for other KENWOOD transceivers works with *.exe to upload the unit, and to have a full management |
| 19:05.18 | ompaul | CheckDavid: it tells you how not to break your install |
| 19:05.35 | ompaul | CheckDavid: and you may need it in case you don't know these things so you don't break your debian install |
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| 19:05.51 | natsukao1 | obviosly i don't agree with non free software, and so i am going to use GNU/linux from different years |
| 19:05.55 | ompaul | kind of important doing things on that mostly people say - na you can#t'f xit that |
| 19:06.07 | ompaul | natsukao1: offtopic |
| 19:06.22 | CheckDavid | ompaul: why linux from different years? what's the relation with that a non free software? |
| 19:06.33 | ompaul | CheckDavid: not I that said that |
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| 19:06.44 | ompaul | this is not a chat channel it is for tech support |
| 19:06.51 | natsukao1 | like i am a radioamateur, see, now i change my natsukao in iw0fzw that i registered |
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| 19:07.31 | CheckDavid | oops sorry, i mean natsuakao1 |
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| 19:08.27 | iw0fzw | so a month ago i decided that was the moment to port the NON free software of Kenwood, developed |
| 19:08.27 | CheckDavid | Is KVM better than VirtualBox ompaul ? |
| 19:08.36 | ompaul | !TIAS |
| 19:08.37 | dpkg | TIAS is "Try It And See". |
| 19:08.52 | ompaul | it is not the same - it is very powerful and command line orientated |
| 19:08.56 | iw0fzw | ONLY for microsoft windows, to a Free Software version for G |
| 19:09.03 | iw0fzw | GNU/linux |
| 19:09.04 | ompaul | iw0fzw: you are offtopic |
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| 19:09.55 | jacek_ | hello, could you help me with my issue, I connected two sata HDs thru PCI adapter, and my system doesn't see them... |
| 19:10.04 | CheckDavid | What may I be losing if I run Debian on Virtual Box running on Windows? |
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| 19:10.16 | CheckDavid | Like, advantages and disadvantages. |
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| 19:10.28 | ompaul | CheckDavid: you have windows all the bad that implies |
| 19:10.34 | iw0fzw | today i started to watch the extension of a file, called CHM, and i saw that was a file document, i watched for on-line, and i discovered that was a based non free format developed from microsoft |
| 19:10.47 | CheckDavid | ompaul: any particular examples? |
| 19:10.59 | ompaul | CheckDavid: that is chatter no we don't do that |
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| 19:11.12 | iw0fzw | so i started to read again, till i found few documentation, and then from shell i found xchm |
| 19:11.18 | ompaul | jacek_: what does this give you in paste.debian.net fdisk -l |
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| 19:11.36 | iw0fzw | xchm gave me the opportunity to start to read the manual |
| 19:11.37 | CheckDavid | I understand ompaul |
| 19:12.00 | jacek_ | ompaul: fdisk doesn see them too - I've checked it |
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| 19:12.14 | ompaul | jacek_: with the l |
| 19:12.26 | jacek_ | yes, with -l ofcourse |
| 19:12.28 | ompaul | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:12.30 | ompaul | yeah |
| 19:12.39 | ompaul | and lspci tells you nothing either |
| 19:12.59 | jacek_ | lspci says nothing unfortunately... |
| 19:13.12 | ompaul | so your hardware doesn't see them - no idea what to do next |
| 19:13.45 | jacek_ | but under liveCD Ubuntu everything is fine |
| 19:13.51 | iw0fzw | and now i can do more than before, before was not possible to do nothing, without instructions for that unit, it was available only on paper, but i have not bought it, because is much expensive, so i decided to start to read the manual, but it was in a non free format, and now i can do more, starting to read that manual, i'll know how to do |
| 19:13.54 | jacek_ | BIOS see it |
| 19:14.11 | ompaul | jacek_: what version of debian |
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| 19:14.35 | ompaul | jacek_: ? |
| 19:14.46 | iw0fzw | RC-D710 for KENWOOD TM-D710 is for APRS nad much other ones |
| 19:14.47 | jacek_ | actually, I'm working at openmediavault NAS system which works under Debian... |
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| 19:16.02 | jacek_ | ompaul: I reinstalled system (new, clear instalation), and after that I lost my HD's |
| 19:16.05 | iw0fzw | this is the unit http://www.kenwoodusa.com/Communications/Amateur_Radio/Mobiles/RC-D710 and it costs more than £200GBP |
| 19:16.31 | ompaul | jacek_: I guess you need some modules from the nice people who built it |
| 19:16.43 | n0x90 | hi all |
| 19:16.51 | iw0fzw | RC-D710: TNC for 1200/9600bps packet communications The RC-D710 operates as an AX.25-compliant TNC (Terminal Node Controller) for 1200/9600bps packet communications. |
| 19:16.51 | ompaul | jacek_: who knows what strange things they did |
| 19:17.05 | ompaul | iw0fzw: are you going to stop? |
| 19:17.12 | jacek_ | strange, because under older version everything was nice... |
| 19:17.34 | n0x90 | Russian layout , shortcuts like ctrl+c ctrl+v not working |
| 19:17.37 | ompaul | jacek_: you haven't given me a version of you changed versions or whatever |
| 19:17.57 | ompaul | n0x90: what version of debian |
| 19:18.07 | n0x90 | 7.1 |
| 19:18.59 | ompaul | n0x90: do this apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade and get the box to the latest patches and test it then |
| 19:19.20 | ompaul | jacek_: what version did work |
| 19:19.25 | jacek_ | ompaul: root@OPENMEDIAVAULT:~# uname -a |
| 19:19.25 | jacek_ | Linux OPENMEDIAVAULT 3.2.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.2.60-1+deb7u3 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 19:19.31 | n0x90 | ok thnx |
| 19:19.40 | ompaul | jacek_: and what did you do to it |
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| 19:21.49 | jacek_ | ompaul: I upgraded old version NAS system to the newest, and everything was correct, after that I thought that the best way is new, clear installation, so I done it... after reboot I lost my drives... |
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| 19:23.49 | jacek_ | ompaul: during starting system BIOS shows both of drives, liveCD Ubuntu shows it too, and NAS system is silent in this case |
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| 19:24.30 | iw0fzw | anyway we need to port many NON free softwares to manage transceivers, and then we need a Free Software Firmware (FSF |
| 19:24.33 | iw0fzw | ) |
| 19:24.33 | jacek_ | ompaul: sorry for my English - I'm from Poland... |
| 19:25.19 | ompaul | jacek_: so check what modules are loaded on your ubuntu disk |
| 19:25.58 | iw0fzw | to have a full control of the transceiver, so that we could add new features in the years, companies like ALINCO; ICOM; JRC; KENWOOD; STANDARD; VERTEX; YAESU; worked |
| 19:26.07 | ompaul | iw0fzw: you please shut up |
| 19:26.51 | jacek_ | ompaul: I think it's too hard for me, I'm not so good in Linux :( |
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| 19:27.31 | ompaul | iw0fzw: che non è un argomento di discussione , facciamo solo il supporto tecnico non coversations sulla libertà |
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| 19:28.55 | iw0fzw | ONLY on NON free software, and this means, that radioamateurs which use GNU/linux or other OS's, can't manage completely their own transceivers, when we are speaking of few hundreds of dollars, i can understand, but there are too transceivers which cost thousand of dollars and can't be managed to cause of their companies, thank you for the time dedicated to me, 73 paolo iw0fzw |
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| 19:47.34 | debia | WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! |
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| 19:47.47 | debia | why comes this up suddenly? I am using the official debian repositories here. |
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| 19:48.15 | ompaul | debia: paste the full command and output into http://paste.debian.net |
| 19:48.21 | ompaul | cos it is spam free |
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| 19:50.04 | debia | ompaul: http://pastebin.com/2LcBsgpR |
| 19:50.05 | ompaul | debia: ah I have to wander off here you go https://wiki.debian.org/SecureApt |
| 19:50.07 | ompaul | oh |
| 19:50.10 | debia | I am not crazy and dumping 30 files to it |
| 19:50.14 | debia | this channel |
| 19:50.24 | ompaul | pastebin.com that spam basket |
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| 19:51.17 | jacek_ | ompaul: is that possible in my case, that file system was changed, because when I was upgrading NAS system, I removed data disks and done some cleaning: I removed unneeded directories, files, some I added... Maybe this is the reason...? How do you think? |
| 19:51.36 | ompaul | jacek_: maybe |
| 19:51.51 | ompaul | jacek_: and maybe they were needed files |
| 19:52.00 | debia | ompaul: hm, so this issue occurs because some apt keys are missing from the official debian repos? |
| 19:52.13 | dontknow | i installed backport kernel by using "sudo apt-get -t wheezy-backports install linux-image-amd64" and it installed "3.16-0.bpo.3-amd64 (3.16.5-1~bpo70+1)". but i see there is a new backport kernel called "linux-image-3.16.0-0.bpo.4-amd64 (3.16.7-2~bpo70+1)" in repo. but "apt-get upgrade" doesn't install it. so what is wrong? |
| 19:52.17 | ompaul | no your system isn't up to date is the usual case |
| 19:52.40 | debia | ompaul: it just has been installed and everything is upgraded to recent |
| 19:52.41 | debia | debian wheezy |
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| 19:52.55 | ompaul | debia: well go get some sigs anyway that is the problem |
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| 19:53.20 | debia | ompaul: on a fresh system, how would those sigs be added? are they already there by debian setup before? |
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| 19:53.34 | debia | ompaul: or does this always need manual interventio? |
| 19:53.35 | debia | *intervention |
| 19:53.37 | dontknow | shouldn't linux-image-amd64 metapackage from wheezy download always latest backported kernel from wheezy-backpots? |
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| 19:54.01 | ompaul | debia: when you see that error yes |
| 19:54.11 | ompaul | debia: then it goes away for a while until something new is needed |
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| 19:54.50 | debia | ompaul: what command should I run to update the keys? |
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| 19:55.24 | ompaul | debia: please check the page I gave you it tells you how to figure out what is missing |
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| 19:55.38 | ompaul | now I really do have to fly |
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| 20:00.09 | debia | ah |
| 20:00.40 | bynarie | how to setup personal repos/ppas???? |
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| 20:01.40 | jelly-home | dpkg, tell bynarie -about reprepro |
| 20:01.53 | jelly-home | bynarie: PPA. however, are ubuntu-only |
| 20:02.15 | bynarie | jelly-home, oh ok... thank you for the info |
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| 20:05.03 | hxm | hi, how to fix this? http://pastebin.com/qmQ68A6t |
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| 20:06.10 | bynarie | hxm, did you run sudo apt-get -f install |
| 20:06.11 | bynarie | ? |
| 20:06.26 | hxm | sure, got many errors and fail too |
| 20:06.27 | bynarie | for the depends |
| 20:06.33 | bynarie | oh ok... hmm |
| 20:06.49 | bynarie | Are u trying to install or remove deluge? |
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| 20:07.52 | bynarie | sudo apt-get install deluge --install-suggests |
| 20:08.05 | bynarie | that should fix depends problem |
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| 20:09.14 | debia | mini-dinstall is cool |
| 20:09.16 | debia | I really love it |
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| 20:11.05 | Quatroking | alright, got my debian working |
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| 20:11.19 | Quatroking | what do i need for the ssh server |
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| 20:13.39 | wols | ,info openssh-server |
| 20:13.40 | judd | Package openssh-server (net, optional) in wheezy/i386: secure shell (SSH) server, for secure access from remote machines. Version: 1:6.0p1-4+deb7u2; Size: 334.5k; Installed: 809k; Homepage: http://www.openssh.org/ |
| 20:13.45 | Trow1 | where we found apache2 errors ? |
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| 20:14.18 | Quatroking | openssh-server, got it |
| 20:14.25 | wols | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:14.44 | dontknow | doesn't "sudo apt-get -t wheezy-backports install linux-image-amd64" install the latest backported kernel? |
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| 20:15.43 | dontknow | anyone knows the answer of my basic debian question? |
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| 20:16.11 | Trow1 | im trying to reload apache2 but im having a fail error when i find the error details ? |
| 20:16.20 | Quatroking | and how would I login on my debian machine from a remote ubuntu machine? |
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| 20:16.34 | Trow1 | there is nothing new in var/apache2/error |
| 20:16.44 | wols | Trow1: check syslog too |
| 20:17.10 | Trow1 | in wich directory wols |
| 20:17.13 | wols | dontknow: no. backports have to be explicitly installed by design. never ever automatically |
| 20:17.21 | okee | Would anyone know how to get rid of a big mess? http://paste.debian.net/135195/ Not sure how it happened, but noticed it on the last upgrade. |
| 20:17.21 | dontknow | "sudo apt-get -t wheezy-backports install linux-image-amd64" installs "linux-image-3.16-0.bpo.3-amd64" but there is a newer "linux-image-3.16.0-0.bpo.4-amd64" |
| 20:17.30 | dondelelcaro | dontknow: it will make sure that the dependency of that package is satisfied, which may end up installing a newer package. |
| 20:17.38 | wols | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:17.38 | okee | How do I fix these missing LSB tags? |
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| 20:17.45 | Quatroking | oh wow that was pretty easy |
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| 20:18.22 | dontknow | wols, dondelelcaro are you saying that i should track the packages that i install from backports and install them manually when it gets update? |
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| 20:18.39 | dondelelcaro | dontknow: and it doesn't install the .4 package, because it's not currently depended on by linux-image-amd64 |
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| 20:19.37 | dontknow | dondelelcaro, what is the reason it is not depended on linux-image-amd64? |
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| 20:20.40 | dontknow | dondelelcaro, i am trying to understand! maintainer made a mistake? |
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| 20:21.03 | okee | I am going to take a brief lunch break, and will return in 40 minutes. |
| 20:21.08 | dltl | dontknow: don't be silly - devs/maintainers never make mistakes |
| 20:21.31 | dondelelcaro | dontknow: it's either an oversight, the maintainer hasn't gotten around to it yet, or the maintainer isn't sure if the .4 package is stable enough |
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| 20:21.42 | Trow1 | what does this means CMD ( [ -x /usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime ] && [ -x /usr/lib/php5/sessionclean ] && [ -d /var/lib/php5 ] && /usr/lib/php5/sessionclean /var/lib/php5 $(/usr/lib/php5/maxlifetime)) |
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| 20:22.56 | dontknow | dondelelcaro, should i use "sudo apt-get -t wheezy-backports install linux-image-amd64" to install from backports? |
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| 20:23.45 | johnfg | Is tigervnc-viewer available for wheezy? I can't find it. |
| 20:24.03 | dontknow | or shoul i use "sudo apt-get -t wheezy-backports install liux-image-3.16.0-0.bpo.4-amd64" |
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| 20:26.05 | HD|Laptop | hello all |
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| 20:26.24 | okee | It looks like the smfpd is coming from my Samsung Unified Linux Device Driver, and the required minissdpd is a sid file. I am on wheezy, so how do I add this minissdpd, and stay with Wheezy? Also, did Debian finally move to the next generation after wheezy? |
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| 20:26.38 | HD|Laptop | what is, these days, the way to use a debian machine as Bluetooth audio sink (i.e. play the A2DP sound of a cellphone through the PC speaker),? |
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| 20:27.07 | HD|Laptop | the package bluez-alsa doesnt exist anymore in testing |
| 20:27.46 | dondelelcaro | dontknow: whichever one you want. Depends if you want the .4 package, or the .3 package. |
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| 20:29.24 | okee | Does anyone know how to fix a continuous loop error: http://paste.debian.net/135195/ This started after I installed the required drivers and files for my Samsung Unified Printer Driver. Although the lop indicates it can't find the minissdpd, apparently it is on my system: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/e4831379/ |
| 20:29.26 | dontknow | dondelelcaro, ok |
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| 20:30.55 | okee | I am taking a 30 minute lunch, will respond when I come back. |
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| 20:33.48 | dltl | wow okee you must in upper management |
| 20:33.56 | dltl | wow okee you must be in upper management |
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| 20:41.11 | biglama | hi guys, I've deleted by mistake some stuff in /usr/local (yes i know) |
| 20:41.26 | hxm | well i found a solution, dpkg -r --force-depends deluge |
| 20:41.34 | biglama | now i can't use apt or aptitude : |
| 20:41.38 | biglama | "apt-get: error while loading shared libraries: libapt-pkg.so.4.12:" |
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| 20:42.52 | Trow1 | anyone tried to set up a reverse proxy server for a nodejs app ? |
| 20:43.25 | Quatroking | what command do i use to shut down x, leaving only the terminal? |
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| 20:43.51 | Quatroking | I'm currently ssh'd in |
| 20:44.05 | Quatroking | working really well |
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| 20:45.20 | somiaj | Quatroking: depends on how x was started, but if it was started via a display manager (say gdm3) '/etc/init.d/gdm3 stop' |
| 20:45.30 | somiaj | Quatroking: you can also kill the process, you can find their pid with 'ps fax' |
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| 20:47.57 | biglama | i think i should download the .deb for libapt- something but i can't use internet anymore |
| 20:48.06 | biglama | can someone give me the url ? |
| 20:48.13 | biglama | s/internet/firefox/ |
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| 20:49.41 | Simplar | Hello. I have a program for Linux Debian / Ubuntu which I'd like to sell for a small sum of money. Where will you advise me to start about it? Thank you guys for any tip. |
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| 20:56.17 | bolt | Simplar: advertise to your target audience? |
| 20:56.19 | bolt | (not here) |
| 20:56.55 | dltl | Simplar: i'll bite where can i paypal you $12 |
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| 20:58.37 | Simplar | dltl: you do it for what? ;D |
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| 21:02.39 | okee | dltl> Why do you say that? |
| 21:03.03 | okee | dltl> Any idea how to fix this broken loop problem? http://paste.debian.net/135195/ |
| 21:03.25 | okee | This all started when I added the printer driver for my computer: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/7da38609/ |
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| 21:07.02 | jhutchins | okee: I take it you got the driver from somewhere other than debian or cups.org? |
| 21:07.03 | ROG3R | I have installed a live distro on a USB stick, works fine. However I want to put a diferent distro on it and strange thing happens, my main OS doesnt detect the USB (despite booting a live linux from the same USB works fine) |
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| 21:08.19 | jhutchins | ROG3R: It might be that the filesystem isn't recognized. I'm not sure, but I think the live systems are still iso9660 with cdlinux on them. |
| 21:08.27 | jhutchins | ROG3R: That or they're FAT12. |
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| 21:09.01 | jhutchins | ROG3R: You can probably mount it manually, but you can't just write new files to it without breaking it. |
| 21:09.32 | jhutchins | ROG3R: You can remaster it with multiple images, but you have to let one of the images manage the bootloading and the menu. |
| 21:10.52 | Simplar | jhutchins: hello there. I'm still sorting out that mediatek wifi problem on asus x550cv notebook. |
| 21:11.12 | ROG3R | jhutchins: i did the dd command to burn the iso. seems to work |
| 21:11.18 | Simplar | This needs a good driver for 3.16 |
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| 21:14.26 | perlmonkey | Hi can anyone tell me how to stop X/lightdm starting by default on boot? |
| 21:14.38 | perlmonkey | (I just want a shell) |
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| 21:15.52 | rryoumaa | i think you can just remove lightdm |
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| 21:17.01 | prpl | hi, does peristence work with debian using unetbootin to install to usb stick ?..ty |
| 21:17.25 | prpl | if not is there a work around ? |
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| 21:18.17 | Quatroking | question: does ssh have a timeout |
| 21:18.56 | perlmonkey | rryoumaa: if I do that, I won't have any desktop in VNC right on my client side? |
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| 21:19.41 | rryoumaa | dunno about vnc |
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| 21:20.23 | perlmonkey | rryoumaa: I'm curious, when you run vncserver on raspi it says use :0 but that is taken by default on the machine itself, the only way I can connect to desktop via VNC is :1 |
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| 21:20.45 | Simplar | Hello, where can I find a stable Wi-Fi driver for Mediatek MT7630E 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter for Debian 7.7 kernel 3.16? |
| 21:21.12 | niteye | hello, i got a brand new computer but the install seems to be going painfully slow, could there be any obvious reason ? |
| 21:22.24 | perlmonkey | I got VNC running on raspi after some fiddling and its running sweeeet =) I found I had to use the IP address and :1 and also, that uses the screen res 1024 x 768 works better than the suggested default for HMDI full screen (unless you're wanting a full screen HDMI remote on client vnc) |
| 21:22.36 | perlmonkey | 1024 x 768 works a lot faster anyways |
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| 21:23.00 | bolt | !tell perlmonkey about raspbian |
| 21:23.17 | perlmonkey | that channel is dead bolt :-/ |
| 21:23.17 | niteye | also i found some bugs in the partitioner during the installation. you can't delete encrypted volumes after creating them, unless you restart the whole installation, and you also cant make more than one parition in an encrypted volume, unless you create the encrypted volume and then choose "undo changes", then you will have an empty volume an you can make as many partitions as you like |
| 21:23.32 | bolt | perlmonkey: it's still not debian |
| 21:23.38 | perlmonkey | well it is sorta eh |
| 21:24.02 | bolt | !based on debian |
| 21:24.03 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
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| 21:24.14 | perlmonkey | its just debian repackaged for the risc, but under the hood it looks pretty much same |
| 21:24.56 | perlmonkey | but vnc is vnc eh, the same packages exist in raspbian as debian |
| 21:25.06 | perlmonkey | i just came here to ask general vnc stuff |
| 21:25.38 | niteye | what wasz the question ? |
| 21:25.53 | perlmonkey | niteye for my vnc? |
| 21:25.56 | niteye | ya |
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| 21:27.20 | perlmonkey | oh.. I was following the howto on raspberrypi doc and it said run the command to start vncserver on the machine and use ip:0 but when I tried to start server it said :0 is already used (I presume by the default desktop) so I used :1 and it started fine, and I was able to connect fine on client with ip:1 |
| 21:27.24 | perlmonkey | is that normal? |
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| 21:27.53 | niteye | probably |
| 21:28.12 | perlmonkey | thought so, just wanted to check i wasn't running two instances or something dumb |
| 21:28.20 | okee | jhutchins> Debian doesn't have the driver, and the cups drivers doesn't work. Samsung has a driver, but it too doesn't work and was incomplete. The scanner would detect, but the printer would not. I added drivers from the following sources, which seemed to make the printer work, but then created the loop issue: http://paste.debian.net/hidden/6ed01d6a/ |
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| 21:28.25 | niteye | 5900 (or :0) is generally the physical display ou also see when you connect a screen to the HDMI output |
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| 21:28.39 | perlmonkey | also i need to disable vnc logging, cuz raspberry is using SD and its very slow at writing files using 128 blocks |
| 21:28.42 | niteye | :1 and :2 are extra "screens" you will only get to with vnc |
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| 21:29.32 | perlmonkey | ok thanks |
| 21:29.37 | okee | jhutchns> I did not uninstall the Samsung driver before installing these other drivers, and wondering if I should have done that? I need to do an errand, and will return in an hour. |
| 21:29.38 | phogg | niteye: you will get them any time you run another X server, or if you have multiple physical screens |
| 21:30.01 | jhutchins | okee: xsane should be able to detect the scanner; cups should be able to manage the output. Unfortunately the only people with the knowledge to fix the loop are the people who created the sofware you found. |
| 21:30.04 | perlmonkey | oh so :0 would be the default screen on the actual device if you have X running? |
| 21:30.15 | niteye | that should be right |
| 21:30.24 | phogg | perlmonkey: it depends on your config, but generally yes |
| 21:30.33 | perlmonkey | and then if you want to run a 2nd screen via vnc, you use :1 you can't connect to :0? |
| 21:30.36 | okee | jhutchins> Do you have a link for xsane? |
| 21:31.09 | niteye | hmm, they should both keep working, at least if it starts a new X session and it doesn't kill the previous one |
| 21:31.18 | phogg | perlmonkey: :0.0 is the first screen first desk, you can also have :0.1 and :0.2 which can map to other physical screens being used by the same X |
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| 21:32.04 | perlmonkey | jhutchins: I have no luck getting any scanner software to work :-/ I have an Epson AIO with scanner, in the end, I discovered the Android Epson scanner app works beautifully with it |
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| 21:32.26 | perlmonkey | well the Android Epson app does everything besides scanning |
| 21:32.43 | phogg | perlmonkey: you can run as many as you like and connect to all of them at once, but you can only display as many as you have real screens (physical or virtual) |
| 21:32.47 | perlmonkey | I use it on wifi |
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| 21:33.21 | malice_ | Hello. I'd like to install driver for my wifi device on Debian Sid. I've downloaded package from here: https://packages.debian.org/sid/firmware-ralink (tar.gz), but when I open it, it has no .deb file but several .bin files. I know the right driver for me(I mean, I've got 3090 device from ralink), but how can I install it? |
| 21:33.30 | jhutchins | perlmonkey: I've always been able to get xsane to work, but I have had to go in and look at dmesg and figure out some tweaks to the code. |
| 21:33.35 | malice_ | I tried copying it to /lib/firmware, but it didn't work |
| 21:33.51 | perlmonkey | phogg: oh that's interesting thats I will try :0.1 |
| 21:34.07 | phogg | perlmonkey: it's not going to work unless you configured X for it |
| 21:34.12 | okee | jhutchins> I am wondering if your advice about xsane is correct. According to the following url, xsane is based on the sane list, which detects scanners, and not printers: http://www.xsane.org/xsane-introduction.html |
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| 21:34.21 | okee | I will return in an hour, and now must leave. |
| 21:34.34 | jhutchins | malice_: dmesg (dmesg | less) will show you where the driver is looking for the firmware and where it expects to find it. |
| 21:35.04 | malice_ | jhutchins okay, thanks. I'll write that one down. Then I have to copy it there, right? |
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| 21:35.18 | jhutchins | okee: Right. Xsane is something like "scanner access now easy". It's for the scanner part, which really doesn't have anything to do with the printer except that they're both on the same cable and power supply. |
| 21:35.19 | perlmonkey | jhutchins yeah I had it working fine on my DX4000 epson, then I had to switch to a newer model (same thing basically) and it no longer was supported by any scanner app, maybe its just me.. I find my Android tablet is a nice solution tho, and then I bluetooth the scans to Linux |
| 21:36.00 | jhutchins | perlmonkey: Whatever works. |
| 21:36.07 | malice_ | One more question - what is the command, or where are located logs of system, when it starts up? I can see something about system not being able to find firmware, but then it loads GUI and it's all gone. |
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| 21:36.18 | perlmonkey | ya, its best to do lsusb and see the actual address of scanner eh |
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| 21:36.22 | okee | jhutchins> In my case they are on the same power supply, but doubt they are on the same cable. Both are USB. I have a cheap canon text scanner that works quite well with Linux, and a Samsung ML2510. |
| 21:36.24 | jhutchins | malice_: copy/move, yep. Or you might just be able to install the firmware-nonfree package. |
| 21:36.27 | jhutchins | !firmware |
| 21:36.27 | dpkg | Firmware is software to operate electronic devices, usually contained in EPROM or flash memory. Some Linux kernel drivers require firmware to be provided from userspace, notably for <WiFi> devices. Most firmware files are not part of a Debian release as they do not conform to the <DFSG>; some are available via <contrib> and <non-free> packages, ask me about <search>. See also <installer firmware>. http://wiki.debian.org/Firmware |
| 21:36.59 | malice_ | jhutchins: unfortunately I don't think so |
| 21:37.21 | okee | I would agree that the SANE list would be a superior way to handle scanner drivers, since it separates the gui from the driver, which can eliminate a lot of problems, and also make it easier to update -- even on legacy hardware. |
| 21:37.29 | perlmonkey | I still have not found a way for my Epson to store the wifi settings :-/ I have to leave it in standby mode else it looses the password |
| 21:37.46 | okee | ok, now I really do need to do that errand I was talking about, and will return in an hour. |
| 21:38.12 | perlmonkey | oh noes, my vnc desktop is blank |
| 21:38.21 | mostynb | i'm having trouble building a .deb package from a piece of software that uses libtool- it seems that the libtool script overwrites LD_LIBRARY_PATH, which removes the setup for fakeroot, then the install step fails because it can't write to /usr. is there a recommended workaround for this problem? |
| 21:38.48 | perlmonkey | :0.1 was refused |
| 21:39.15 | perlmonkey | :1 is blank, I better reboot |
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| 21:40.14 | perlmonkey | is undecided whether to put a usb stick on the raspberry pi or a sata-II 5400 rpi laptop hdd |
| 21:40.28 | perlmonkey | which would be quicker, for writing..hdd I guess, by miles? |
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| 21:41.09 | perlmonkey | but usb is more reliable eh? I have a pile of like 9 dead HDD's, I'm sick of replacing them, plus the power issue of finding 12v |
| 21:41.44 | okee | jhutchins> Sane was already installed on my computer, and there is a debian package, that allows you to send an image file to the printer. |
| 21:41.45 | dltl | i have a small pile of dead sdd |
| 21:41.50 | perlmonkey | has found a SATA/IDE to USB adaptor |
| 21:42.12 | perlmonkey | dltl: :-S and SD media or SSD? |
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| 21:43.00 | perlmonkey | has bricked 2 x usb sticks by formatting with ext4 rookie mistake.. heh |
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| 21:43.23 | perlmonkey | knows never to format them in Linux now and only use FAT and FAT32 |
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| 21:43.52 | dltl | perlmonkey: just fdisk delete all - i use ext4 on usb sticks |
| 21:44.01 | perlmonkey | :-O |
| 21:44.12 | dltl | did you put the correct filesystem on after fdisk? |
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| 21:44.22 | perlmonkey | my systems (windows or linux won't even recognise these sticks) you think fdisk will do it? |
| 21:45.01 | perlmonkey | no I put ext3 or ext4 i think and overwrote the special area that's reserved by FAT, I think I wrecked them |
| 21:45.06 | dltl | plug it in and then just fdisk -l if it shows you are good - if it never shows it is bad - oh and the light show glow when plugged in |
| 21:45.14 | perlmonkey | ok lets see |
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| 21:46.38 | Quatroking | how do I check ram usage from the terminal? |
| 21:46.49 | sunkawakan | free -m Quatroking |
| 21:46.55 | Quatroking | thanks |
| 21:47.04 | pentaheadron | on a uefi booting system, is it safe to delete the used efi entry if I have another one? (btw through windows it wont let me delete it) |
| 21:47.05 | sunkawakan | no problem ;) |
| 21:47.18 | Quatroking | gonna run that after rutorrent's done installing, I wonder how much it differs from when it was running win2k |
| 21:47.21 | perlmonkey | dltl: nothing on fdisk and no leds on them in usb port, i guess they is dead for sure :-/ |
| 21:47.31 | perlmonkey | maybe its not just the filesystem |
| 21:47.44 | pentaheadron | I want to delete grub and use a diffrent boot loader |
| 21:47.59 | dltl | perlmonkey: hardware problem then - does anything show in /var/log/messages or your kernel log? |
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| 21:48.35 | perlmonkey | no, they is like not even detected in dmesg :-/ i better buy new one |
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| 21:48.58 | sunkawakan | Quatroking, if you want a cooler way to see the mem usage for each program, do: |
| 21:49.00 | sunkawakan | sudo aptitude install htop -y ; htop |
| 21:49.07 | dltl | perlmonkey: i;m gonna guess others work so i know you have drives installed - but check anyway with lsmod |
| 21:49.15 | perlmonkey | some usb sticks on eBay only say Windows support, others state Linux (and charge a lot more) technically they is all supported by Linux right? |
| 21:49.20 | dltl | s/drives/driveRs |
| 21:49.28 | Quatroking | will check it out, thanks |
| 21:49.30 | dltl | perlmonkey: right |
| 21:49.45 | perlmonkey | thought so |
| 21:50.03 | Quatroking | by the way can anyone here suggest a better ssh client for windows than putty or should I just scurry over to ##windows? |
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| 21:50.24 | perlmonkey | I downloaded a special app (free) its recommended by the SD association and partly funded by them, it says only format SD and USB sticks with that app |
| 21:50.37 | perlmonkey | it runs under Windows and Mac |
| 21:50.40 | dltl | perlmonkey: no lol |
| 21:50.43 | perlmonkey | heh |
| 21:51.03 | dltl | sd association? |
| 21:51.15 | perlmonkey | microsoft approved it and the raspberry site links it and says use it :-/ |
| 21:51.23 | Quatroking | perlmonkey, I know about the app, it's better than the way windows formats, but then again that might as well be placebo |
| 21:51.27 | dltl | the ones at walmart are real cheap and good (scandisk) |
| 21:51.35 | Quatroking | but yeah it runs fine on linux |
| 21:51.40 | Quatroking | dltl, don't you mean sandisk? |
| 21:51.42 | perlmonkey | yeah it says something about not trusting windows to format these medias |
| 21:51.43 | pentaheadron | is there a way to run full gnome without hardware acceleratoin? |
| 21:51.50 | dltl | Quatroking: why yes i do ;) |
| 21:51.57 | perlmonkey | it says the app does it safer and more better efficiency |
| 21:52.02 | perlmonkey | interesting too.. |
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| 21:52.43 | perlmonkey | I read for Linux, SLOWER rated SD cards is better for write performance than higher, and better stability in general it says, class 10 is not good for Linux OS |
| 21:52.53 | perlmonkey | for digital cameras faster = good |
| 21:53.05 | perlmonkey | linux = 4 or 6 is best |
| 21:53.18 | dltl | perlmonkey: if you need to you can use linux to put an ntfs filesystem on it too (for all your computer compatibility) but mount only mounts ntfs read-only you will need ntfs-3g for read/write mounting |
| 21:53.36 | perlmonkey | interesting |
| 21:53.38 | Quatroking | oh snaaaaap |
| 21:53.48 | Quatroking | only using 56 out of 512mb |
| 21:54.01 | Quatroking | why didn't I move to debian earlier jesus |
| 21:54.02 | perlmonkey | i was reading about some exotic fs formats for the SD and Linux which do smaller write packets |
| 21:54.04 | dltl | for cameras it has to be ntfs - and i'd use the cameras formating app - or just don't touch what comes with the camera |
| 21:54.16 | perlmonkey | and disabling journaling is recommended |
| 21:54.47 | dltl | Quatroking: don't worry about what free really shows - linux keeps stuff in memory so it will run faster the next time it is used |
| 21:54.51 | perlmonkey | a good combo seems to be... |
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| 21:55.05 | perlmonkey | SD to boot from, then USB stick as like a virtual drive |
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| 21:55.27 | perlmonkey | but using SD as main drive = poor performance, 1000s of small files = nightmare |
| 21:55.33 | dltl | perlmonkey: sd are so easy to lose/misplace ;) |
| 21:55.41 | Quatroking | dltl, onwin2k i'd nearly max out ram lol |
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| 21:56.16 | perlmonkey | yeah my first SD with raspbian on it (8GB) just fell apart! the little card inside the main housing, i had no idea it looked fine.. and i thought my raspi was hosed..took me ages to figure it out |
| 21:56.23 | dltl | Quatroking: after use linus will show almost all memory used too - it will remove unused things from memory as needed |
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| 21:57.03 | perlmonkey | now i put that back together, and it only reads 56mb heh in that SD app |
| 21:57.06 | pingfloyd | Quatroking: it's the number on the second line in free under the free column that is your real free physical memory |
| 21:57.10 | perlmonkey | god knows what happened to it |
| 21:58.15 | perlmonkey | I have an SD adaptor now which takes the little microSD cards |
| 21:58.29 | Quatroking | pingfloyd, http://a.pomf.se/xxkuil.png |
| 21:58.38 | perlmonkey | thats microSD are even worse eh, sneeze and 32GB gone |
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| 21:58.49 | Quatroking | Don't even need swap |
| 21:59.27 | dltl | perlmonkey: i'm waiting for nanoSD cards ;) |
| 22:00.04 | perlmonkey | just powered the raspberry pi model B from a 5v/2400mAh backup battery pack from PayPal designed to power their PayPal Here (tm) heh, it ran for like 2-3 hrs |
| 22:00.10 | dvs | is waiting for picoSD card |
| 22:00.19 | perlmonkey | hehe nano SD can't even imagine it |
| 22:00.22 | dltl | perlmonkey: i like the readonly switch on sd cards - i think they should have put them on usb sticks |
| 22:00.58 | perlmonkey | yes, i have one usb stick which has such a switch, its recessed inside you need a toothpick to switch it |
| 22:01.15 | dltl | i never thought about checking - i will right now |
| 22:01.31 | perlmonkey | amazing how cheap these usb sticks are now, on eBay 3 quid in UK delivered for 32GB in a nice solid metal case |
| 22:01.53 | perlmonkey | 64GB is not expensive anymore |
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| 22:02.51 | pfred1 | merely excessive |
| 22:02.52 | sunkawakan | how may I check what SD class is my raspberry using? now is reading a big file on the card and crunching numbers (verifying the namecoin blockchain since the genesis block) so I cannot just see the card |
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| 22:03.23 | pfred1 | right now I'm using 775MB of RAM |
| 22:03.24 | sunkawakan | and lshw output is the shortest I ever seen |
| 22:03.25 | perlmonkey | has an ITX system with a VIA fanless cpu and 256mb ram, its running quite fast off sata-II 2.5 inch hdd |
| 22:03.31 | dltl | remember reading the word quid in some story about england beheading some woman who stole 1 guid worth of bread in 1800's ;) |
| 22:03.47 | perlmonkey | tinycore linux |
| 22:03.54 | perlmonkey | heh |
| 22:04.05 | perlmonkey | i think the whole Linux is in ram |
| 22:04.11 | pfred1 | I have setup a system that ran X Window with a total RAM use of 28MB |
| 22:04.32 | perlmonkey | lol |
| 22:04.37 | perlmonkey | in those days... |
| 22:04.49 | pfred1 | not too long ago was using Lenny |
| 22:04.59 | perlmonkey | when you got hanged or beheaded or whatever, it was custom to pay the noose or chopper man, 1 penny |
| 22:05.19 | dltl | those courteous brits ;) |
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| 22:05.25 | perlmonkey | so he did a good job I think |
| 22:05.28 | perlmonkey | lol |
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| 22:05.46 | pfred1 | what if he did a bad job and you lived? |
| 22:05.59 | dltl | is that were the custom of tipping got started? |
| 22:06.09 | perlmonkey | we had a law for that, you were allowed to go free |
| 22:06.25 | perlmonkey | maybe thats where the 1p came in, like breach of contract or something ;-) |
| 22:06.57 | dltl | can you sue your 'chopper' if you live for breach of contract? |
| 22:07.22 | perlmonkey | this guy in Sharpe (a fictional brit series about army set in 1700s) had a man with hang marks on his neck, thats how I learned of it |
| 22:07.50 | perlmonkey | Sharpe said, they hanged him, and he did not die.. so he's here, I've got stuck with him |
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| 22:08.04 | perlmonkey | they would 'press' people into the army and navy eh |
| 22:08.14 | dltl | i'm guessing there wasn't much contract signing (on the scaffold) with life-time warrantees? ;) |
| 22:08.39 | perlmonkey | heh I guess not |
| 22:08.49 | Quatroking | wuh |
| 22:09.12 | Quatroking | so like we just went from debian ram usage to GI joe? |
| 22:09.17 | perlmonkey | there is an interesting real criminal and ghost story in my story about a hanging i researched, and a police frame up I think |
| 22:09.23 | perlmonkey | sorry |
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| 22:09.32 | perlmonkey | *story = town |
| 22:11.45 | perlmonkey | this guy stole a sheep, and a copper caught him and he murders the copper, now the cops claim they caught him, and he was on trial for the murder but they had no evidence except the bloodied knife...then on the day of the hanging, they found in the mans cell, in his snuff box, a confession he wrote out, rather conveniently... but the legend goes, the cops wanted that guy for other crimes and couldn't get him, and because they couldn't get |
| 22:12.08 | perlmonkey | the coppers ghost haunts the road still locals says, hes been seen there |
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| 22:12.40 | dltl | it would be a good place for a 'speed trap'? |
| 22:13.10 | pfred1 | I don't speed I'm in no rush |
| 22:13.59 | perlmonkey | hehe its an isolated country lane that goes for miles, an old roman road in fact... and people have been driving at 2am and seen this tall dark figure, a man in black top hat and cloak, and assumed he's fancy dress and offered him a lift, only for him to disappear, those clothes is how the cops dressed back then |
| 22:14.54 | perlmonkey | what i was wondered is... |
| 22:15.31 | perlmonkey | how the hell do you steal a sheep with no car, nothing to carry it eh, that guy lived like 15 miles from the sheep field |
| 22:15.40 | perlmonkey | it was 1880s |
| 22:15.50 | dltl | you ride it home? |
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| 22:15.53 | perlmonkey | hahaha |
| 22:16.24 | dltl | no human/foot prints just sheep feet print |
| 22:16.35 | perlmonkey | a horse would not a sheep on it eh |
| 22:16.38 | pfred1 | sheep walk you know? |
| 22:17.03 | perlmonkey | and if he had a cart and horse, he had too much $ to be steeling sheep |
| 22:17.10 | dltl | pfred1: what about the sheep that just pass out and fall down on command? |
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| 22:17.26 | pfred1 | dltl those are goats that do that |
| 22:17.44 | pfred1 | I don't think they do it on command either |
| 22:17.52 | perlmonkey | he could have caught that sheep up and stashed it nearby eh, and sold it later |
| 22:17.53 | bolt | notions towards #debian-offtopic |
| 22:17.57 | perlmonkey | *cut |
| 22:17.59 | dltl | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=we9_CdNPuJg yea goats |
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| 22:19.39 | perlmonkey | UK had more guns than US in 1880s, ironic, now we got none.. it was perfectly legal and encouraged to carry 2 pistols back then and to shoot any highway robbers |
| 22:19.46 | perlmonkey | ok last off-topic promise |
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| 22:20.57 | perlmonkey | duelling pistols were popular too until Queen Victoria said no |
| 22:21.53 | perlmonkey | needs to know if SSD has fallen in price yet |
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| 22:22.05 | perlmonkey | and is it worth it over USB sticks? |
| 22:22.59 | perlmonkey | last time I checked there was a silly 32/64GB limit, or 128GB if you paid thru the nose on SSD |
| 22:24.13 | kyan | Hi! I'm having trouble getting the web server (apache2) to respond. I can open localhost:4352 in the web browser, but when I go to My.Ext.ernal.IP:4352 from my laptop I get nothing.... I've tried turning off the firewall using GUFW, but it was already off. Any thoughts? Thanks :) |
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| 22:24.27 | perlmonkey | the raspberry pi has a little camera module ($15/10 quid) which is 5 megapixel, crisp like a fone, and you can run it via Python app and scripts |
| 22:24.42 | perlmonkey | has learned that apache is not good |
| 22:24.58 | perlmonkey | there's a better web server called..LX... |
| 22:25.06 | perlmonkey | forgot name |
| 22:25.36 | kyan | Im kind of reluctant to use another server since I've already got the site set up for apache (.htaccess files, etc) |
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| 22:25.40 | perlmonkey | can help get that apache workin |
| 22:25.50 | perlmonkey | I've been running that sucker since 1990s now I |
| 22:26.06 | perlmonkey | I'm about to change to this new lighter one that doesn't spawn processes |
| 22:27.23 | perlmonkey | kyan: first of all, is your box configured right...you have set a static IP and apache has it in config? |
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| 22:27.45 | kyan | I'm not sure! I'll have to look it up |
| 22:27.51 | perlmonkey | ok |
| 22:27.58 | perlmonkey | i will talk you through it |
| 22:28.04 | dltl | kyan: why are you using port 4352? |
| 22:28.07 | kyan | thanks! |
| 22:28.23 | perlmonkey | good question, why that port.. you may need port forwarding now on router |
| 22:28.29 | dltl | right |
| 22:28.32 | kyan | dltl: I'm not sure. Probably any would be fine |
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| 22:28.40 | kyan | I had it that way years ago |
| 22:28.47 | kyan | so I just put it back |
| 22:28.52 | perlmonkey | security reasons maybe? |
| 22:29.05 | kyan | Doubtful. I don't really know anything about security |
| 22:29.20 | dltl | so people would go to your website with port 4352 ? nmap see it so it isn't really about security |
| 22:29.24 | kyan | My guess is that I was trying to spell something in 1337 |
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| 22:29.27 | perlmonkey | apache uses port 80 normally and most routers have that port for http requests |
| 22:29.32 | kyan | :P |
| 22:29.41 | kyan | Ok! I'll set it in the config file for apache |
| 22:29.48 | perlmonkey | you would have to change the port in apache config |
| 22:30.01 | perlmonkey | ok |
| 22:30.04 | perlmonkey | once its setup.. |
| 22:30.15 | kyan | I set it to 80 in ports.conf, restarting now |
| 22:30.24 | kyan | ok, apache's restarted |
| 22:30.27 | perlmonkey | normally you just enter your external/ISP IP and your apache page loads, like magic |
| 22:30.31 | dltl | i think you have to do port forward for 80 too if the server is in a lan or behind the router and not directly connected to the modem |
| 22:30.36 | perlmonkey | you dont need to enter it in apache config |
| 22:30.50 | perlmonkey | only do port forwarding in router/firewall |
| 22:30.59 | dltl | the other server is lighttpd - it is great too |
| 22:31.00 | perlmonkey | but you must have... |
| 22:31.27 | perlmonkey | a static subnet IP configured to your box running apache ie 192.168.1.1 and in apache config |
| 22:31.43 | perlmonkey | and its best if you access apache via that IP on LAN |
| 22:31.49 | kyan | I just tried opening localhost:80 and it worked. http://my.ip:80 though still isn't working |
| 22:31.57 | perlmonkey | for development etc or local browsing |
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| 22:32.10 | perlmonkey | the rest of world can use the ISP IP |
| 22:32.15 | kyan | I'm not sure what a subnet IP is. Is that like the IP thats' assigned by the router? |
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| 22:32.20 | perlmonkey | ok |
| 22:32.49 | kyan | I'm not sure how to find it, or if there's a router somewhere |
| 22:33.01 | perlmonkey | subnet is the network your LAN uses, inaccessible to internet |
| 22:33.10 | perlmonkey | oh |
| 22:33.21 | perlmonkey | start from the basics first... ifconfig on linux box |
| 22:33.27 | perlmonkey | see what your IP says |
| 22:33.30 | dltl | kyan you need to say what you setup looks like |
| 22:33.36 | jhutchins | '''''''']]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]]] |
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| 22:33.48 | jhutchins | Sorry, cat. |
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| 22:33.57 | perlmonkey | haha cat pawed it? |
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| 22:34.13 | jhutchins | kyan: You probably need to forward a port from your firewall to your server, as somebody already said. |
| 22:34.30 | kyan | perlmonkey: https://bpaste.net/show/613c5017c4c9 |
| 22:34.36 | perlmonkey | yeah I think this is purely a port forwarding/firewall issue, the port is closed to outside world |
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| 22:35.00 | perlmonkey | if its working locally eh, it suggests it should work via ISP IP once port is allowed |
| 22:35.14 | perlmonkey | firewall is blocking it most likely |
| 22:35.24 | kyan | Ok! Is that iptables? I came across that reading online |
| 22:35.34 | dltl | he looks like he is on a university net anyway |
| 22:35.37 | Quatroking | if I close an ssh connection, will it quit the programs currently being ran? |
| 22:35.41 | perlmonkey | usually you just need to do it in router, i never needed to touch my system |
| 22:35.42 | jhutchins | kyan: It would be in the configuration of the router. |
| 22:35.53 | kyan | Yes, i'm at university |
| 22:35.56 | perlmonkey | unless you have setup rules there |
| 22:36.04 | jhutchins | Quatroking: Yes, but there are ways around that. |
| 22:36.05 | dltl | Quatroking: use screen or run them with the nohup |
| 22:36.07 | petemc | Quatroking: yes, you can avoid that by using a terminal multiplexer like 'screen' |
| 22:36.23 | petemc | 3 answers for the price of 1 |
| 22:36.23 | Quatroking | oh balls, guess I'll have to use that the next time |
| 22:36.41 | Quatroking | I'm currently compiling rtorrent and it's taking quite a while :s |
| 22:37.01 | jhutchins | Quatroking: Yep, but there's no harm in quitting a torrent and restarting it in screen. |
| 22:37.08 | dltl | Quatroking: you got all the dependencies? it should be a quick compile |
| 22:37.22 | dltl | nothing like libreoffice |
| 22:37.31 | Quatroking | dltl, I'm running off a 550mhz VIA C3 cpu tho |
| 22:37.42 | teraflops | ^ |
| 22:37.58 | Quatroking | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/VIA_C3 |
| 22:38.01 | Quatroking | thug lyfe |
| 22:38.02 | jhutchins | How did we get on to compiling? |
| 22:38.39 | kyan | I guess I should talk to the university's IT people?? it sounds like it's a problem on their end |
| 22:38.46 | perlmonkey | NGINX aka 'engine X' is supposed to be better than apache for speed and performance on more modest hardware |
| 22:38.47 | dltl | better then perlmonkey's hanging stories ;) |
| 22:38.51 | Quatroking | basically I'm running this script https://github.com/Kerwood/rtorrent.auto.install |
| 22:38.52 | perlmonkey | :P |
| 22:39.01 | perlmonkey | kyan I think so yes |
| 22:39.10 | kyan | ok, thank you ! :) |
| 22:39.14 | perlmonkey | they must have closed down the port |
| 22:39.42 | perlmonkey | ask them to open 8080 or something, I expect they reserved 80 |
| 22:39.43 | dltl | maybe that is why he was using 4532? |
| 22:39.45 | Quatroking | rutorrent requires rtorrent to be compiled with xmlrpc-c for some reason so I guess it does that as well |
| 22:39.47 | perlmonkey | ya |
| 22:39.51 | perlmonkey | makes sense now |
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| 22:40.11 | dltl | he is too smart for them ;) |
| 22:40.27 | perlmonkey | dont forget to change your port number in apache config, there's a port.conf file I think and in your virtual host/default config might need to |
| 22:40.32 | dltl | he should transfer from umaine to u new hampsire ;) |
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| 22:41.00 | kyan | Ok, cool, thank you! I'll try 8080 right now just in case :) |
| 22:41.15 | dltl | that is the proxy port - i'll be they have it closed |
| 22:41.18 | perlmonkey | i just made that up |
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| 22:41.59 | perlmonkey | most likely everything is closed eh for incoming services unless you ask |
| 22:42.20 | kyan | It seem to be the same condition. Yes :) I'll go over to talk to them! Thanks again! :) |
| 22:42.49 | dltl | idk a 'Good' university would let the students have their pages like umain.edu/~kyan ;) |
| 22:42.58 | perlmonkey | yeah |
| 22:43.11 | jhutchins | kyan: That's probably a good idea, they can tell you what the actual configuration is. |
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| 22:43.15 | perlmonkey | I don't get nothing with the Open Uni |
| 22:43.20 | perlmonkey | except email |
| 22:43.29 | kyan | I like umaine, they have a way around gen eds and they have really good food :D |
| 22:43.34 | perlmonkey | monkey@open.ac.uk |
| 22:43.45 | dltl | just trying to joke with kyan orono is a great place |
| 22:43.55 | jhutchins | kyan: Places like universities use to have the whole campus on routable "external" IP addresses and have the ports open to the world so anybody could run any kind of service. |
| 22:44.11 | kyan | delta yes :) |
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| 22:44.17 | jhutchins | kyan: Nowadays they tend to use NAT to a non-routable network and lock it down at the firewall. |
| 22:44.19 | perlmonkey | that would be good |
| 22:44.19 | kyan | *dltl. darn you autocorrect! |
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| 22:44.48 | pingfloyd | jhutchins: iow they got sane about security |
| 22:44.48 | perlmonkey | they should give everyone a raspberry PI and let them have a port |
| 22:44.52 | kyan | jhutchins, I think they might have changed it this year, because I had a server here last year and it worked without any hassle |
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| 22:45.04 | perlmonkey | $30 bucks can't go wrong |
| 22:45.43 | jhutchins | kyan: Actually, that address looks routable, but it still might be firewalled. |
| 22:46.06 | jhutchins | kyan: Yeah, doesn't respond to ping. |
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| 22:46.45 | Quatroking | yay it finished compiling |
| 22:46.50 | Quatroking | only took an entire hour |
| 22:46.53 | Quatroking | :D |
| 22:47.10 | jhutchins | kyan: Yeah, I'm detecting a firewal. Curiously, ports 554 and 7070 report open. |
| 22:47.35 | jhutchins | kyan: Definitely need to talk with Networking. Good idea to be on their good side anyway. |
| 22:47.48 | dltl | 554 <- 443 + 1 ? 7070 <- 8080 - 1010 ? |
| 22:48.04 | dltl | kyan: yea bring us donuts ;) |
| 22:48.10 | perlmonkey | kyan I think your IP is a subnet |
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| 22:48.49 | perlmonkey | but it looks configured right for apache now |
| 22:49.29 | jhutchins | dltl: 554 is "rtsp" and 7070 is "realserver", so something might have been set up as a streaming service on that IP. |
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| 22:50.52 | perlmonkey | I have my wifi webcam streaming online, it uses a local subnet IP on the router and port 70, but I setup DNS hostname and access it like cam.domain.com:70 |
| 22:51.11 | perlmonkey | works perfect, cam.domain.com resolves to my dynamically assigned dhcp IP |
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| 22:51.37 | perlmonkey | and the firewall routes 70 requests to camera |
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| 22:51.54 | jhutchins | perlmonkey: Yes, but unlike a home network kyan has a routable "public" IP address, he doesn't appear to be using NAT. |
| 22:51.56 | Quatroking | aaahhh it starts compiling some more |
| 22:52.04 | perlmonkey | oh |
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| 22:52.08 | Quatroking | my body isn't ready for this |
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| 22:52.53 | dltl | perlmonkey: you mean i can be watching you instead of watching sons of anarchy? |
| 22:52.58 | perlmonkey | brings Quatroking coffee |
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| 22:53.12 | Quatroking | black, no sugar |
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| 22:53.37 | perlmonkey | dltl for sure, i even have a night vision, or maybe some vandals or piss artists vandalising up the hood |
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| 22:53.57 | perlmonkey | i could film the 4 cop cars outside my place to 'keep us safe' |
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| 22:54.36 | perlmonkey | they film us, so i filmed them, little cam filming big cam/big brother |
| 22:54.39 | dltl | you got 4 cop cars outside you place ... right now? *checks google earth for such an event* |
| 22:55.11 | perlmonkey | yes, they permanently here, they left all weekend as a visible sign |
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| 22:55.28 | perlmonkey | the cops have a base in some apartments they took over above the local shops |
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| 22:55.58 | Quatroking | better engage the thermite and burn all your hardware before they burst in |
| 22:56.03 | Quatroking | erase all data! erase all data! |
| 22:56.03 | debia | hehe, hi |
| 22:56.10 | perlmonkey | it has all kinds of security gates, intercoms, a fone number nobody knows, and they never come out to do any policing |
| 22:56.12 | debia | So mini-dinstall is excellent, one can run it under an user. |
| 22:56.18 | debia | Eh, is there already a nice init.d script or such? |
| 22:56.27 | debia | And under what user should one let it run though? |
| 22:56.38 | perlmonkey | plus the big cameras |
| 22:57.09 | dltl | is your place where banksy got started? |
| 22:57.13 | niteye | i installed debian on my new computer, installation went fine, but now when i boot, i see stuff starting up and shortly after my screen turns off, no signal, and i see nothing, same with rescue mode, what could i do? |
| 22:57.15 | perlmonkey | if they bust in my place, they best bring an army too and guns, lots |
| 22:57.20 | dltl | debia: - i'm gonna guess as root |
| 22:57.24 | perlmonkey | dltl yeah |
| 22:57.37 | jhutchins | !kms |
| 22:57.37 | dpkg | Kernel Mode Setting (KMS) has graphical modes initialized by the Linux kernel instead of X. It is hardware dependent, introduced in Linux 2.6.29. Enabled via modprobe as of xserver-xorg-video-intel 2:2.9.1-2 and xserver-xorg-video-radeon 1:6.12.192-2. To disable, edit /etc/modprobe.d/{i915,radeon}-kms.conf or boot with the 'nomodeset' kernel command line parameter. http://wiki.debian.org/KernelModesetting |
| 22:57.50 | perlmonkey | has a gun from USA California, Palm Beach, very proud of |
| 22:57.50 | debia | dltl: as root? it should just receive the stuff from incoming/ directory and prepare it for repository/ directory |
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| 22:57.58 | perlmonkey | a Colt |
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| 22:58.09 | jhutchins | niteye: You could try nomodesed, noapic, and noacpi. |
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| 22:58.39 | niteye | hmm, can i do this in grub ? |
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| 22:59.04 | dltl | or put a xset s off -dpms |
| 22:59.08 | dltl | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:59.14 | jhutchins | niteye: Yes, edit the boot command line (usually the middle line). Add each of those, or if that doesn't work try more than one. |
| 22:59.24 | perlmonkey | has SIX systems in various states of disrepair and assembly |
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| 22:59.55 | perlmonkey | im hoping to get ONE working before bedtime, one is a 1U server with a hell of a lot of fans, so it needs to be in the attic warehouse |
| 23:00.21 | dltl | maybe one of the coppers watching you is a computer expert and can help you? |
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| 23:00.51 | pingfloyd | dltl: they probably still use typewriters |
| 23:00.56 | kyan | Just got back from the IT center, they're closed :P but their phone support is supposedly open, so I'll give it a try |
| 23:00.57 | perlmonkey | those cops don't know even about wifi webcams, i suggested they make a network of them and they said, can you help us |
| 23:01.03 | jhutchins | The chatting is nice and friendly guys, but we really need to get back to specific Debian support questions and answers. |
| 23:01.12 | perlmonkey | ok |
| 23:01.41 | dltl | jhutchins: np we got all the microphones in perlmonkey's place all calibrated now ;) |
| 23:01.49 | perlmonkey | ;-) |
| 23:02.03 | perlmonkey | will remain quiet |
| 23:02.26 | perlmonkey | can I just say 1 thing.. |
| 23:02.35 | perlmonkey | its not Debian but.. |
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| 23:03.41 | perlmonkey | Nokia N810, if you find one of these going cheap on eBay (I got one for like 20 quid) GET IT, its the best Linux pocket PC I ever bought, man, this hardware is pure class.. it has its own distro but I'm told it can be rooted |
| 23:03.45 | brentaarnold | Will one be able to just update jessie via repositories to the stable version once released? |
| 23:04.24 | mtn | brentaarnold: yes, that is normal for debian |
| 23:04.28 | perlmonkey | its a very handy sys to have, cuz it has GPS, BT, wifi, touch screen, keyboard, yet its fone sized and true Linux |
| 23:04.31 | kyan | Thank you for all your help guys! :) |
| 23:04.40 | perlmonkey | kyan welcome, did it work? |
| 23:04.59 | brentaarnold | perlmonkey: I wonder if this could be done with the Nokia Lumia 928 (WP OS standard) |
| 23:05.08 | perlmonkey | its great when you see the Apache... 'hello world' or whatever it says |
| 23:05.09 | brentaarnold | mtn: ty |
| 23:05.11 | kyan | Turns out today's Saturday... phone support ended at 4pm |
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| 23:06.00 | kyan | I tried 7070 port but it's not working either. So i think the answer will have to wait until monday |
| 23:06.44 | perlmonkey | brentaarnold good question I know they brought out 1 other replacement to the N810 which had SIM capability (the N810 is not a fone with no SIM, but I use SIP).. Nokia is such classy hardware eh, those guys thought of everything, it even has a sensor to lower screen power and transflective LCD |
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| 23:07.14 | dltl | kyan - unh support is open all weekend ;) |
| 23:07.18 | perlmonkey | a little stand at back, this is pre-tablet eh, well ahead of its time |
| 23:07.40 | perlmonkey | kyan ah well, at least you're almost there |
| 23:08.06 | kyan | yup! :D (just tried 554 and it's a bust too) Thank you all so much for your help! |
| 23:08.13 | perlmonkey | once the port forwarding is enabled i bet your apache will be accessible if its working local already |
| 23:08.28 | kyan | come monday all will be fixed ! :D |
| 23:08.31 | perlmonkey | yes |
| 23:09.21 | Zerock | What do I need installed in order for the ಠcharacter to display properly? |
| 23:09.24 | perlmonkey | I'm gonna try nginx webserver now and report back |
| 23:09.51 | dltl | kyan: even uvm has 24 hour weekend support but you have to go to where they are at at Three Needs bar ;) |
| 23:10.00 | perlmonkey | apache is powerful eh, it does a lot but it uses a lot of resources and mem too from all the process spawning |
| 23:10.06 | kyan | lol |
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| 23:10.44 | perlmonkey | nginx doesn't do that spawning and is not so powerful, but can do 10,000's of requests and does support PHP natively, i think it could run WordPress |
| 23:10.47 | dondelelcaro | perlmonkey: there are non-prefork versions of apache. |
| 23:11.10 | perlmonkey | ya but they all spawn to some degree |
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| 23:11.19 | dondelelcaro | perlmonkey: everything spawns something |
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| 23:12.04 | dondelelcaro | perlmonkey: but mpm-worker and similar ones do not actually spawn for every request. And if you use fcgi or similar, you don't even spawn PHP. |
| 23:12.11 | perlmonkey | well I ran apache and never had any probs, but in a heavy load environment, i dunno, if you had tons of hardware maybe its fine |
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| 23:12.24 | perlmonkey | you can do load balancing DNS also eh |
| 23:12.25 | dondelelcaro | I run apache in heavy load environmnets... |
| 23:12.29 | dltl | perlmonkey: you know you can make web pages as apache modules and hence no spawnitizationizing |
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| 23:12.49 | dondelelcaro | of course, I also run it with really crappy php stuff too, so I actually run varnish in front of apache. |
| 23:12.49 | perlmonkey | dondelelcaro does it ever crap out/max out sys mem? |
| 23:12.57 | dondelelcaro | perlmonkey: it doesn't. PHP does. |
| 23:13.00 | perlmonkey | from too many processes and just hang |
| 23:13.05 | perlmonkey | oh\ |
| 23:13.27 | dondelelcaro | apache is actually pretty svelt in comparison to the apps that most people seem to like to run |
| 23:13.28 | niteye | okay somewhat success, i added nomodeset, noacpi and noapic to the boot line and now the screen turns turn off anymore but i don't know what those things do or what is wrong with the computer |
| 23:13.48 | niteye | doesn't turn off anymore |
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| 23:13.54 | perlmonkey | php is a love hate thing eh, so many cool apps are written in it now, but i hate it as a language myself |
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| 23:14.23 | dltl | so many cool hackable/vulnerable apps ... #1 vulnerable apps |
| 23:14.42 | perlmonkey | i would much prefer perl and python, i wrote some cool web apps in perl back in the day |
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| 23:15.09 | jhutchins | Again may I remind you that this is not a social channel. Perhaps #debian-offtopic or #defocus would be comfortable. |
| 23:15.10 | perlmonkey | yeah, everyone attacks php and all the exploits become well known |
| 23:15.25 | perlmonkey | at least if you roll your own in perl, you know its secure code base |
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| 23:15.27 | jhutchins | Even if the channel is otherwise quiet, it is best to stick to Debian support here. |
| 23:15.38 | perlmonkey | ok |
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| 23:16.09 | perlmonkey | i better bow out, cuz im not using only half-debian (raspbian) and ubuntu on all other systems, im gonna annoy you guys |
| 23:16.20 | perlmonkey | but thanks for the chat anyway, and good evening all |
| 23:16.36 | jhutchins | perlmonkey: We don't care what you us, but the conversation needs to stick to Debian support. |
| 23:16.42 | jhutchins | s/us/use |
| 23:17.04 | perlmonkey | well i dunno much about Debian, I used it from 1998 until 2000 maybe, i can do basic Linux support I guess |
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| 23:18.24 | niteye | with nomodeset noapic noacpi now the screen works, but i only get a blinking cursor, i cant alt-F1 to get a login prompt and do commandline, but i get nothing graphical |
| 23:18.40 | niteye | i can** |
| 23:18.46 | perlmonkey | is trying vnc again |
| 23:18.55 | jhutchins | niteye: ctrl/alt/F1? |
| 23:19.20 | niteye | just alt-f1, it brings me to a differnet console, there i can login |
| 23:19.36 | niteye | but where X should be, on tty 7, i just have a blinking cursor in the top corner |
| 23:20.14 | jhutchins | niteye: Ah, well, /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 23:20.23 | somiaj | niteye: care to paste the output of /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 23:20.29 | jhutchins | niteye: lspci -nn to find your chipset. |
| 23:20.37 | perlmonkey | runs xfce4 and would not switch for love nor money now, its the most stable and efficient, good balance |
| 23:20.45 | somiaj | niteye: if you use systemd, inittab and getty isn't run on tty's 1-6 by default anymore (only as requested) so it could be tty2 |
| 23:21.02 | perlmonkey | nvidia has endless probs in ubuntu latest updates, is it same in debian? |
| 23:21.23 | perlmonkey | my mobo is quite matured chipset too, maybe 5 years old |
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| 23:21.42 | somiaj | perlmonkey: the nvidia-nonfree effects testing/unstable at least one per cycle. But if you run debian stable the version you get will not change and a random upgrade wont' break your system |
| 23:21.54 | niteye | apt-c |
| 23:21.56 | niteye | n== |
| 23:21.59 | niteye | oops |
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| 23:22.05 | perlmonkey | gnome will just randomly crap out, i tried every proprietory nvidia driver and the open source one |
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| 23:22.15 | perlmonkey | the screen just gets lines |
| 23:22.17 | somiaj | perlmonkey: and by the time you dist-upgrade to the next relaese, all the bugs should be worked out and it shouldn't be an effect then. If you decide to run testing/unstable you will run across issues. |
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| 23:22.22 | niteye | hmm now that's an idea, i could try installing the nvideo nonfree driver, that might fix my screen and X problems |
| 23:22.24 | perlmonkey | xfce4 runs fine, no probs |
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| 23:23.05 | perlmonkey | it fixed mine briefly, i did something and then it all went bad |
| 23:23.29 | perlmonkey | there is a fix written up somewhere |
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| 23:24.18 | perlmonkey | gets coffee |
| 23:24.48 | jhutchins | niteye: I would think that the proprietary drivers would be more likely to have problems than nouveau, but you could try. |
| 23:24.54 | perlmonkey | can anyone recommend any good wifi dongles, makes or anything that works good in debian? |
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| 23:26.05 | perlmonkey | has a BT dongle and keyboard that works on every sys i can shake a stick at, works beautifully, can unplug and move to another sys, and it just..works.. instant.. i like PnP hardware on Linux like that |
| 23:26.28 | perlmonkey | its a rare thing for me anyway |
| 23:26.48 | perlmonkey | except HP and Epson, those are same, brilliant Linux support |
| 23:27.08 | somiaj | perlmonkey: I like linksys, but for the most part I would look at the chipset, it can be hit and miss even with a paticular company and mostly depends on the chipset used |
| 23:27.09 | perlmonkey | dongles can be very hit and miss eh |
| 23:27.22 | perlmonkey | ya |
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| 23:27.34 | Quatroking | woo it finished compiling again! |
| 23:27.36 | somiaj | if you can find the chipset you can figure it out. The one I got from linksys for fairly cheap worked well once I fixed an issue with it not being detected |
| 23:27.39 | perlmonkey | will do some research on chipsets and latest support, will check linksys also thanks |
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| 23:28.48 | niteye | when i run "nvidia-detect" i get "Uh oh. Your card is not supported by any driver version up to 304.117. A newer driver may add support for your card." so i guess im stuck and the only thing i can do is not use linux till they make a driver for it? |
| 23:29.09 | perlmonkey | is there a clear advantage to compiling everything than using packages? I never done that, but I know some hardcore types like to compile as much as possible |
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| 23:30.18 | perlmonkey | I'm sure i seen a newer driver than 304, but maybe thats not for your model card |
| 23:30.27 | perlmonkey | are you on stable? |
| 23:30.32 | niteye | yup |
| 23:30.35 | perlmonkey | ah |
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| 23:30.39 | Hunterkll | niteye, what? latest linux driver is a 343.36 from nvidia's site |
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| 23:31.04 | niteye | im looking in the deb repos, downloading directly from nvidia might be a good plan |
| 23:31.08 | perlmonkey | be ok to take that surely, and roll it back if it messes up |
| 23:31.14 | perlmonkey | yea |
| 23:31.36 | Quatroking | holy hell rutorrent is working great |
| 23:31.38 | Quatroking | yessss |
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| 23:31.52 | perlmonkey | when thinks work its GOOD |
| 23:31.56 | perlmonkey | *things |
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| 23:32.33 | perlmonkey | my my rasperry raspbian is working after 2 years collecting dust |
| 23:32.44 | perlmonkey | and i'm thinking of all the stuff i could build on it |
| 23:33.32 | teraflops | perlmonkey: just don't run all at the same time ;) |
| 23:33.59 | Quatroking | does debian come with a text editor that works in the terminal? |
| 23:34.09 | teraflops | poor rpi it has limits |
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| 23:34.18 | perlmonkey | plugged in a tablet into a big ass HDMI screen, huuuge and was expecting youtube to be all pixalated, but it came out razor sharp :-O |
| 23:34.27 | pingfloyd | Quatroking: nano, but why not just install vim |
| 23:34.48 | perlmonkey | was like dvd quality even at just 720p |
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| 23:35.41 | teraflops | perlmonkey: 720p is hd 1080p is fullhd |
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| 23:35.56 | perlmonkey | that explains it |
| 23:36.10 | pingfloyd | Quatroking: invoking the command editor will execute the default alternative for your text editor |
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| 23:36.21 | Quatroking | also how do I find network drives using the terminal |
| 23:36.23 | perlmonkey | is using xfce4-terminal and vi, the only editor i can find that lets me copy and paste |
| 23:36.53 | Quatroking | I got a NAS that should be sharing as a linux host, I wish to mount it so I can have rutorrent store downloads there |
| 23:37.09 | andril | hello |
| 23:37.16 | pingfloyd | Quatroking: if you want to see what executable debian is using for the editor command: ls -l /etc/alternatives/editor |
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| 23:37.47 | andril | i need help setting up Wheezy 64bit |
| 23:37.54 | niteye | pff can't install the nvidia driver |
| 23:38.06 | pingfloyd | andril: you'll need to be more specific |
| 23:38.15 | niteye | it wants a version of gcc that is older than the one in the deb repos and is for 2.6 kernel |
| 23:38.51 | andril | pingfloyd - "things to do after installing" type guide |
| 23:39.14 | perlmonkey | Quatroking I use lsblk does it show networked drives tho? |
| 23:39.15 | pingfloyd | andril: one good thing to do is configure iptables |
| 23:39.46 | pingfloyd | andril: if you have a perimeter firewall and you trust the network then that is rather optional |
| 23:39.51 | Quatroking | perlmonkey, well I assume I have to mount the thing as a networked drive first, right |
| 23:39.52 | andril | pingfloyd: kinda noob been fed by Ubuntu and tangled with Crunchbang |
| 23:39.56 | Quatroking | right now it's not showing yet |
| 23:40.11 | teraflops | Quatroking: mount the shared folder (nfs/smb) on the local machine, then set the download location point to that folder |
| 23:40.12 | pingfloyd | andril: I usually just install and configure as I go |
| 23:40.50 | Quatroking | teraflops, yeeaaaaahhhh I have no idea how to mount it |
| 23:41.05 | Quatroking | haven't done this before on the terminal |
| 23:41.05 | teraflops | heh |
| 23:41.13 | perlmonkey | Quatroking yes, for a long time I used to use a networked drive setup using NFS... I had NFS server running on a 1U and huge disks, and would mount that using NFS clients.. so every machine/workstation had the same /home, and desktop/fs, very nifty and fast too |
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| 23:41.21 | pingfloyd | andril: there isn't too much that is necessary after the installation since package management handles most configuration |
| 23:41.35 | pingfloyd | from there it is preferences |
| 23:41.35 | perlmonkey | can stream vids on NFS very well over wifi even |
| 23:41.50 | Quatroking | sounds great perlmonkey |
| 23:42.02 | andril | i am trying to install Opera but libc6 2.15 is not available |
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| 23:42.25 | Quatroking | I have a seagate nas that claims it has been dead for the past 2 years |
| 23:42.27 | teraflops | perlmonkey: yeah you can but here is some limitations on the size of the files on older nfs implememtations |
| 23:42.33 | perlmonkey | its very easy to use NFS on networked drives, its like a local drive almost for mounting |
| 23:42.50 | pingfloyd | andril: https://wiki.debian.org/Opera |
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| 23:42.53 | perlmonkey | yeah |
| 23:43.02 | Quatroking | apparently a single damaged sector means the entire drive can no longer be read |
| 23:43.10 | Quatroking | even though it works just fine |
| 23:43.15 | Quatroking | never buy seagate |
| 23:43.19 | perlmonkey | you may need to find tune it, depending on your requirements, like big files, or lots of small files, writing performance etc |
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| 23:44.07 | teraflops | andril: even latest opera is old as hell inst it? |
| 23:44.07 | perlmonkey | ran a seagate raid before big sata drives, it was like a bunch of 18GB SCSI 10k rpm |
| 23:44.17 | perlmonkey | incredibly fast and noisy |
| 23:44.38 | perlmonkey | even if one drive failed, just hot swapped out |
| 23:45.02 | andril | not sure |
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| 23:45.59 | andril | i guess i need sudo |
| 23:46.00 | perlmonkey | is now anti-magnetic and wants to move to solid state as much as possible |
| 23:46.19 | perlmonkey | but not SSD |
| 23:46.29 | dltl | perlmonkey: you looking to buy a 1997 era 20 drive 1.44MB floppy drive raid? |
| 23:46.36 | Quatroking | I have a 256mb IDE flashdrive in my machine |
| 23:46.37 | dltl | exit |
| 23:46.37 | perlmonkey | lol |
| 23:46.39 | Quatroking | how about that |
| 23:46.50 | dvs | !exit |
| 23:46.51 | dpkg | /quit you fool! |
| 23:46.54 | perlmonkey | you have one? |
| 23:47.06 | Quatroking | Yeah it came with the thing when I bought it |
| 23:47.25 | andril | i am lost |
| 23:47.29 | Quatroking | pretty cool thing, the size of a GBA gamepak |
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| 23:47.33 | pingfloyd | you're not supposed to get stuck on IRC like you're in vim for the first time. In vim it is excusable. |
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| 23:48.59 | perlmonkey | Quatroking what machine is that? I have only ONE IDE drive working from my collection of 10 dead (mostly Maxtor SATA) size unknown but pre-GB I think, 1997 |
| 23:49.09 | perlmonkey | i'm running it on 256mb also, ITX |
| 23:49.20 | Quatroking | it's a WYSE thinclient |
| 23:49.29 | perlmonkey | oh i know those well |
| 23:49.58 | perlmonkey | you can pick those thin clients up so cheap nowadays eh, handy things, some with embedded linux |
| 23:49.58 | Quatroking | a Wyse Winterm to be specific |
| 23:50.11 | Quatroking | originally used as a windows terminal, came with Windows Xp Embedded |
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| 23:50.27 | Quatroking | bought i years ago for 20 bucks, been using it for torrenting ever since |
| 23:50.32 | Quatroking | it* |
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| 23:50.43 | perlmonkey | :) |
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| 23:51.06 | niteye | im one step further, i managed to install a driver from the backports following a guide on the debian wiki. now my screen stays up, "no signal" problem is gone even without the special boot options , but i still only get a blinking cursor |
| 23:51.08 | Quatroking | has an external PSU and everything, passive cooling |
| 23:51.23 | perlmonkey | very neat hardware |
| 23:51.35 | jhutchins | niteye: have you looked at the xorg log file yet? |
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| 23:51.48 | Quatroking | Yeah I've always liked VIA hardware |
| 23:51.56 | Quatroking | had a mini-itx board before, great stuff |
| 23:52.03 | Quatroking | also an Epia M |
| 23:52.17 | perlmonkey | theres too much power seeking overkill i think, the trend now seems to be lower power sys eh, tablets etc, PC's hit their limits |
| 23:52.23 | pingfloyd | How do you generate a random string? |
| 23:52.38 | perlmonkey | you dont need lots of power really for most things |
| 23:52.38 | ag4ve_ | how do i figure out which mta package is installed? |
| 23:52.48 | niteye | i need a beefy computer for gta5 |
| 23:53.12 | ag4ve_ | some aptitude query command or some such i recon but i can't figure it out.... |
| 23:53.17 | perlmonkey | these bitcoin miners are using GPU's and grafix cards |
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| 23:54.02 | perlmonkey | PC is 2.4Ghz dual core, 4gb ram, 500GB SATA-II, thats as far as i wanna go |
| 23:54.17 | perlmonkey | my tablet is quad core, 1GB ram |
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| 23:54.29 | niteye | failed to load the nvidia kernel module. please check your system's kernel log for additional error messages |
| 23:54.31 | Quatroking | I'm running an i7 2700k+ at 4GHZ, 16GB ram and an HD6970 2gb card |
| 23:54.35 | perlmonkey | tablet is better than PC |
| 23:54.54 | Quatroking | 64gb ssd with two 1tb drives and two 640gb drives |
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| 23:55.10 | niteye | which one is that, dmesg ? |
| 23:55.17 | perlmonkey | would like ssd but cant justify the cost unless its fallen a lot |
| 23:55.30 | Quatroking | the torrentbox is a VIA C3 at 550mhz, 512mb and intergrated graphics that borrow 16mb ram |
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| 23:55.37 | perlmonkey | will make do with 64GB sticks |
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| 23:56.25 | Quatroking | my previous epia M had RCA video output :o |
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| 23:56.36 | jacek | tell me please, what happen: liveCD with Ubuntu sees sata disk (connected to PCI-SATA card), and Debian liveCD doesn't see it, both systems doesn't see disk after fdisk -l command |
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| 23:56.49 | perlmonkey | has VIA 733 I think or semething like that on ITX, showing its age with analogue TV out, IDE, PS/2 |
| 23:57.06 | Quatroking | mini-itx? |
| 23:57.10 | perlmonkey | ya |
| 23:57.14 | Quatroking | sounds an awful lot like an epia board |
| 23:57.24 | perlmonkey | i think it is |
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| 23:57.27 | ag4ve_ | heh, i've got 3x identical i7 laptops with 32gb ram and different hdds here (work's but... at my home still) and just built a new amd hex core desktop with 16gb ram and 2x gtx660s .... maybe i should go into the bitcoin mining business :P |
| 23:57.28 | Quatroking | niiiiccce |
| 23:58.15 | perlmonkey | it has 1 PCI slot, 2xIDE, 2xUSB, Ethernet, it can boot off USB or Ethernet |
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| 23:58.28 | perlmonkey | VGA and Parallel port |
| 23:58.31 | Quatroking | my laptop runs an i5 460m, 4gb ram, two 500gb drives and a fried nvidia gt420m blaze it GPU |
| 23:58.32 | perlmonkey | heh |
| 23:58.47 | tuxcluster | I'm running a i7-4790K @ 4Ghz, 16GB DDR3, Nvidia GTX 660 w/ three monitors, and WD Velociraptor for storage. |
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| 23:58.51 | Quatroking | using ubuntu on that because windows doesn't have sufficient legacy drivers |
| 23:59.09 | mtn | has never seen this channel so off-topic |
| 23:59.18 | perlmonkey | likes using 2 monitors on nvidia screen sharing to make one big screen |
| 23:59.36 | angel | hi, just installed debian. but the display driver is not installed. |
| 23:59.44 | angel | i had reinstalled the intel drivers |
| 23:59.46 | perlmonkey | cuz i trade forex and that gives me max screen space i can drag apps across and do long charts |
| 23:59.47 | niteye | join the club angel! |
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