| 00:00.07 | tuxcluster | niteye: what GPU are you running into issues with? |
| 00:00.24 | teraflops | mtn: irc weekends ... |
| 00:00.25 | perlmonkey | dont say nvidia |
| 00:00.25 | niteye | nvidia geforce 750 gtx , 2Gb memory |
| 00:00.33 | perlmonkey | bingo |
| 00:00.33 | angel | sorry, i meant amd hd drivers |
| 00:00.51 | mtn | teraflops: sure, but this channel usually seems a little more grownup that most |
| 00:01.04 | teraflops | mtn: yep |
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| 00:01.32 | niteye | my previous computer and my laptop have nvidia 9600 GT 1gb RAM, and a nvidia 8800 GTS mobile, and there i have no problems it works straight after installation |
| 00:01.41 | niteye | also debian wheezy |
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| 00:01.55 | vook | I'm in the early stages of planning a xen cluster, it will probably contain about 10 servers, 80 cores total. Before I invest too much time, I thought I'd ask about it in here. What approaches are there? Can anyone point me in a general and relevant direction (I don't want setup an outdated environment). I need something that's both HPA and high availability. |
| 00:01.56 | perlmonkey | i have had nothing but probs with nvidia i tell you |
| 00:02.17 | perlmonkey | since i switched to xfce4 tho, smooooth sailing, nvidia issues thing of past |
| 00:02.34 | niteye | xfrce4? which one is in debian 7 ? |
| 00:02.40 | perlmonkey | and its hardly a sacrifice from gnome or kde really, still a great deal of functionality in a desktop |
| 00:02.53 | tuxcluster | It's been smooth sailing for me, both on an 8800 GTS and the newer GTX 660. I'm running version 304.117 of the non-free drivers. |
| 00:03.11 | perlmonkey | it runs a hell of a lot faster than both too, less mem and cpu |
| 00:03.40 | perlmonkey | i dunno which deb its in, maybe someone can advise but xfce4 been around a while now, years |
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| 00:03.59 | perlmonkey | worth a try your desktop list |
| 00:04.06 | perlmonkey | esp for laptops |
| 00:04.48 | niteye | yup thats what i use but even xfce won't work on my new comp |
| 00:04.56 | perlmonkey | :( |
| 00:05.07 | angel | can anyone help me with Mobility Radeon HD 3650?\ |
| 00:05.14 | tuxcluster | niteye: I'm assuming you've followed the directions on https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers to no avail? |
| 00:05.18 | niteye | angel: what do you get ? |
| 00:05.37 | angel | the driver got installed, but the display still looks like the old one. |
| 00:05.47 | perlmonkey | nvidia seems very tempramental and hit and miss |
| 00:06.09 | niteye | yep indeed, but in dmesg it still says that the 304 driver is not compatible with my card, even though i installed a newer one like in that guide |
| 00:06.10 | angel | i followed the steps in https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary |
| 00:06.11 | perlmonkey | it can work fine for ages, then one update and bam, even putting new drivers on wont help or going back to older |
| 00:07.04 | perlmonkey | if you get it working, i would not touch it, hold back any updates on it and dont be tempted |
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| 00:08.37 | perlmonkey | as a last resort, xfce4 cuz i was ready to scrap my nvidia, i bought 3 boards too SFF |
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| 00:09.07 | niteye | how do i undo all the mess i did and easily clean up the packages and failed drivers and get back in a clean state ? |
| 00:09.24 | niteye | i want to drive a different nvidia driver but it says its already installed via a different method |
| 00:09.56 | perlmonkey | i would remove the drivers and go to the open source one then start from there |
| 00:10.14 | niteye | i know how to apt-get install but not the opposite |
| 00:10.33 | vook | niteye: it would be apt-get purge |
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| 00:10.40 | perlmonkey | ya |
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| 00:10.44 | vook | but that still doesn't always clean up the mess |
| 00:10.50 | perlmonkey | purge will do a proper clean |
| 00:11.07 | andril | i need a Debian Jedi |
| 00:11.16 | perlmonkey | yeah it can still leave mess in xorg config etc |
| 00:11.24 | andril | sudo and non-free |
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| 00:11.47 | angel | can anyone explain the third steps at https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary#AMD_Catalyst_Legacy_13.1 |
| 00:11.51 | mtn | andril: The best way to get help is to ask your real question. Give as much detail as you can in a sentence or two. |
| 00:11.58 | perlmonkey | one you start installing loads of nvidia drivers its like a can of worms |
| 00:11.59 | angel | Create an Xorg server configuration file. |
| 00:12.21 | perlmonkey | yeah thats the sane thing to do, make a backup copy first |
| 00:12.28 | perlmonkey | then restoring to a clean copy is easy |
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| 00:13.27 | andril | how do i set myself as sudo |
| 00:13.43 | mtn | andril: have you looked at the debian wiki? |
| 00:13.44 | vook | andril: usermod -aG sudo username |
| 00:13.53 | Zzeiss | I'm having trouble configuring a printer on a clean Debian Stable install. I |
| 00:14.02 | vook | andril: then log out and log back in |
| 00:14.09 | Zzeiss | The gui says: "FirewallD is not running. Network printer detection needs services mdns, ipp, ipp-client and samba-client enabled on firewall." |
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| 00:14.20 | perlmonkey | are you using cups Zzeiss? |
| 00:14.22 | Zzeiss | So, what should I do. I tried installing "firewall* but no joy. |
| 00:14.29 | Zzeiss | perlmonkey: dunno. |
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| 00:14.35 | perlmonkey | CUPS is best |
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| 00:14.47 | nono_ | hi i need help! i just upgraded my kali using the tut 20 things todo after installing kali |
| 00:14.49 | andril | now xchat keeps closing |
| 00:14.57 | nono_ | now im getting a pearl local not found deal |
| 00:15.01 | Zzeiss | perlmonkey: I can't even see the printer, let alone getting it configured. |
| 00:15.01 | perlmonkey | it has many configs for most supported printers |
| 00:15.04 | mtn | !kali |
| 00:15.05 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>. |
| 00:15.29 | nono_ | sorry ty guys |
| 00:15.34 | perlmonkey | check the hardware is supported first on linux printing project, and do lsusb and dmesg |
| 00:15.56 | andril | vook: not working for me |
| 00:16.04 | perlmonkey | then if its supported, install cups and get the right package for the printer |
| 00:16.08 | vook | andril: did you log out and in again? |
| 00:16.15 | andril | just installed Wheezy 7.7 |
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| 00:16.30 | vook | group additions do not become active until a new session has been created (not just a new terminal) |
| 00:16.49 | perlmonkey | cups will give you printer networking support and wifi printing into the bargain if your printer is not network friendly already |
| 00:17.01 | andril | usermod: command not found |
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| 00:17.17 | vook | andril: did you run it as root? |
| 00:17.52 | vook | (using "su -") |
| 00:17.56 | nono_ | can somone help me its a debian question pls pls |
| 00:18.19 | andril | vook: just did it in Root terminal now will restart - thanks |
| 00:18.28 | mtn | nono_: not if you run kali. it is not a debian question |
| 00:19.14 | Zzeiss | perlmonkey: Uh, its a network printer, and worked before I did a fresh Debian Stable install. But I'll install cups* anyway. |
| 00:19.18 | jacek | hey people, I need help / information |
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| 00:20.08 | jacek | what if in old kernel was correct module and in newone isn't? |
| 00:20.17 | perlmonkey | Zzeiss ok good luck, for me cups solves many printer probs in past and printers that dont work standalone just..work by cups |
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| 00:20.58 | mtn | jacek: probably best to explain what you are talking about with specifics |
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| 00:21.57 | andril | how can i add non-free items like Opera |
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| 00:23.11 | jacek | mtn: ok, I have PCI-->SATA card, and fdisk -l doesnt show connected disks |
| 00:23.30 | Zzeiss | ok, installed cups, got a 'pdf' virtual printer. And that's it. |
| 00:23.36 | mtn | jacek: you were talking about modules. which ones? |
| 00:23.54 | mtn | andril: https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList |
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| 00:24.10 | vook | andril: that's a bit ot, but you'll likely need to go directly to the company website. It's not going to be in a debian repo (at least I don't think so). |
| 00:24.41 | jacek | mtn: maybe not module (I'm not so good in Linux), maybe driver I dont know actually.. |
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| 00:24.59 | vook | andril: it's not in "non-free" |
| 00:25.03 | teraflops | nop |
| 00:25.23 | jacek | mtn: I have openmediavault NAS system which works under Debian |
| 00:25.42 | mtn | jacek: how many disks do you have connected? and paste the results of fdisk -l to http://paste.debian.net |
| 00:26.03 | andril | cool vook |
| 00:26.11 | jacek | mtn: I upgraded old version and after that I have not visible drives connected to the card |
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| 00:27.06 | andril | i might just call it quits - thought it would be a perfect desktop tutorial |
| 00:27.19 | jacek | mtn: http://paste.debian.net/135227/ |
| 00:27.21 | andril | thanks all mtn vook |
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| 00:28.36 | jacek | mtn: http://paste.debian.net/135228/ |
| 00:29.12 | mtn | jacek: I don't know anything about openmediavault. hopefully someone else does. |
| 00:30.06 | jacek | mtn: when I started liveCD with old Ubuntu I could see disks in GParted, but fdisk -l showed the same like here in Debian |
| 00:30.07 | perlmonkey | does anyone own a Toshiba NB500 netbook or know of the hardware? my backlight has gone.. oddly, it seems from looking inside the LCD that the light is not like the usual style, it seems to be incorporated into the LCD itself, is this normal on new LCDs? |
| 00:30.27 | perlmonkey | ie i can see no light of any kind anywhere |
| 00:30.47 | jacek | mtn: openmediavault is only programm which works under Debian... |
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| 00:31.46 | perlmonkey | could put a new screen in for 23 quid, and install Linux.. its running Windows 7 :-S |
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| 00:32.08 | Rt^10 | I couldnt install aircrack-nh package |
| 00:32.14 | Rt^10 | ng |
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| 00:32.38 | jacek | mtn: could you tell me although how can I check if driver for this card is loaded? |
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| 00:36.00 | mtn | jacek: you can identify the card using lspci and then search for info about it on the net. |
| 00:36.58 | angel | my ice weasel browser keeps crashing, not getting any errors |
| 00:37.22 | jacek | mtn: ok, thanks |
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| 00:44.31 | Han | my /etc/runlevel.conf contains a lot of duplicate entries, how do I rebuild a proper runlevel.conf from scratch? |
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| 00:46.28 | woshty | Is there some simplyfied way to create a minimal system install for a vps? |
| 00:46.50 | woshty | debootstrap install is too bloated .. |
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| 00:49.07 | angel | my browser crashed again, it has become so hard to browser now. |
| 00:49.55 | mtn | angel: try moving your .mozilla folder and then start iceweasel. perhaps some configs are messed up. |
| 00:50.33 | abrotman | woshty: really, debootstrap is the way. In what way is it bloated? |
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| 00:51.05 | angel | debian was newly installed yesterday. how to move the mozilla folder? |
| 00:51.19 | abrotman | move? |
| 00:51.24 | abrotman | why? what? where? |
| 00:51.29 | mtn | angel: at the command line or using a filemanager. it is a hidden folder in your home folder |
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| 00:51.59 | mtn | abrotman: his iceweasel is crashing. I suggested moving .mozilla |
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| 00:52.24 | angel | ok, i have renamed it as mozillaold |
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| 00:56.43 | Zzeiss | Nope. No joy. Still have the same error message when I try to configure a printer in a clean Debian Stable download: "FirewallD is not running. Network printer detection needs services mdns, ipp, ipp-client and samba-client enabled on firewall." |
| 00:57.10 | Zzeiss | ... heck, for that matter, what's firewallD? |
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| 01:01.09 | Rt^10 | I couldnt install aircrack-ng package. why? |
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| 01:02.42 | dltl | debian apt-get central control knew you were up to no good with it? |
| 01:03.29 | Rt^10 | I want to test injection for my wifi card |
| 01:03.46 | auscompgeek | why? |
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| 01:05.29 | tuxcluster | RT^10: Have you considered giving Kali Linux a go? It's a great pen-testing distribution downstream from Debian and has a huge amount of such tools available in their standard repo. |
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| 01:08.25 | Rt^10 | tuxcluster: I only have a 1GB usb stick. not enough or kali. so Im using crunchbang and would lie to intall aircrack-ng myself . debian website says theres a package for it but it failed to install |
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| 01:09.26 | abrotman | Rt^10: this channel doesn't support kali or crunchbang |
| 01:09.53 | Rt^10 | crunchbang is debian |
| 01:09.57 | abrotman | no |
| 01:09.59 | abrotman | not even close |
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| 01:10.17 | abrotman | Rt^10: please use #crunchbang |
| 01:11.25 | tuxcluster | It's downstream, similar to Ubuntu and such. But as abrotman mentioned, you're likely to find more accurate help on a distribution-specific channel for crunchbang. |
| 01:11.32 | abrotman | No |
| 01:11.45 | abrotman | this channel just does not support Crunchbang |
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| 01:13.17 | tuxcluster | Yes, that's why he would have better luck elsewhere (in addition to it being off-topic) |
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| 01:16.32 | dltl | i'm guessing the attitude is why people are leaving for crunchbag and ubuntu and mint etc |
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| 01:19.45 | tuxcluster | dltl: A bit off-putting I agree; however, it is likely due to a flood of new users from the more "entry-level" distributions and their questions which have frustrated channel members. |
| 01:20.50 | dltl | debian is entry level |
| 01:21.12 | dltl | maybe not the hot current ... but still entry level |
| 01:21.43 | tuxcluster | Not when compared to something like Ubuntu that abstracts (optionally) many of the command-line oriented operations that one would have to perform on Debian. |
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| 01:22.37 | auscompgeek | I suspect Rt^10 forgot to apt-get update, anyway |
| 01:22.53 | abrotman | debian, entry level .. pfft |
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| 01:23.30 | dltl | abrotman: you kinda arrogant and it is entry level contrary to your obvious high and mighty ..... |
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| 01:24.15 | smokesifter | Does updating to testing after the freeze mean nothing is going to break in a big way? |
| 01:24.32 | bolt | smokesifter: no |
| 01:24.48 | tuxcluster | Have a nice night guys and gals. |
| 01:24.49 | bolt | !tell smokesifter about freeze |
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| 01:25.39 | bolt | smokesifter: until a new stable is released, the current stable is the only one considered stable |
| 01:25.42 | Rt^10 | auscompgeek: I updated apt-get |
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| 01:26.14 | smokesifter | bolt: Yeah, no hardware support. I guess I need to compile a kernel and learn how to properly add it to grub2 |
| 01:26.26 | smokesifter | err no hardware support for a peripheral |
| 01:26.35 | bolt | smokesifter: did you check out bpo? |
| 01:27.09 | bolt | !tell smokesifter -about bpo |
| 01:27.13 | smokesifter | bolt: forgot about that. Not used to actual stability |
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| 01:27.39 | Rt^10 | E: Package 'aircrack-ng' has no installation candidate |
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| 01:28.38 | abrotman | Rt^10: please ask #crunchbang, we don't support it here |
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| 01:34.32 | MadHatter42 | can I add static routs via dnsmasq ? |
| 01:34.37 | MadHatter42 | routes* |
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| 01:36.04 | smokesifter | MadHatter42: what are you trying to do? |
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| 01:37.28 | MadHatter42 | smokesifter, I have inside my network a specific device that has two interfaces and one of them is public and it connects via ipsec in a remote network |
| 01:37.33 | MadHatter42 | making that network available |
| 01:37.55 | MadHatter42 | i've set up a static route in my router so that that network is reachable through that host |
| 01:38.12 | MadHatter42 | but i keep getting redirects as its INSIDE my network already |
| 01:38.29 | MadHatter42 | so I dont want to set up manually the static routes on my client pcs |
| 01:38.37 | MadHatter42 | so i thought about setting up the dhcp option 5 |
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| 01:38.51 | MadHatter42 | but afaik its only available for single hosts |
| 01:39.02 | MadHatter42 | smokesifter, does it makes sense to you ? |
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| 01:40.03 | smokesifter | you added something like 192.168.2.0/24 -> 192.168.2.200 to your routing table on the router |
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| 01:40.27 | smokesifter | err sorry |
| 01:40.32 | smokesifter | that should be |
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| 01:40.38 | smokesifter | you added something like 192.168.2.0/24 -> 192.168.1.200 to your routing table on the router |
| 01:41.20 | MadHatter42 | smokesifter, yes |
| 01:41.22 | MadHatter42 | and it works |
| 01:41.26 | smokesifter | on the local machine |
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| 01:41.32 | smokesifter | err on the router |
| 01:41.33 | MadHatter42 | on the router* |
| 01:41.37 | smokesifter | but not on the clients |
| 01:41.40 | MadHatter42 | yes |
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| 01:42.04 | MadHatter42 | and i keep getting redirects from the router saying "well why do you route here ? you can reach that directly" |
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| 01:42.20 | MadHatter42 | From 10.0.174.251: icmp_seq=3 Redirect Host(New nexthop: 10.0.174.241) |
| 01:42.25 | MadHatter42 | stuff like this |
| 01:42.36 | smokesifter | what are the ip ranges of the remote and local network? |
| 01:43.06 | MadHatter42 | 10.10... |
| 01:43.23 | MadHatter42 | 10.0.174.0 local |
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| 01:43.45 | MadHatter42 | i can add that to the clients |
| 01:43.52 | MadHatter42 | but it would be like manual work |
| 01:43.56 | MadHatter42 | on lots of hosts |
| 01:44.06 | MadHatter42 | i would like to do it via dnsmasq |
| 01:44.14 | smokesifter | it should work on the router |
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| 01:44.19 | Sneaky | http://youtu.be/5JniVxr5zvw |
| 01:44.33 | MadHatter42 | smokesifter, it works |
| 01:44.35 | MadHatter42 | BUT |
| 01:44.40 | MadHatter42 | i keep getting redirects |
| 01:44.49 | MadHatter42 | anyway apparently this is the asnwer |
| 01:44.59 | MadHatter42 | 24.192.168.2 |
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| 01:45.03 | MadHatter42 | for example |
| 01:45.05 | debia | hi people |
| 01:45.09 | debia | I got a funny permissions/owner problem |
| 01:45.13 | MadHatter42 | if i want to add 192.168.2.0 |
| 01:45.23 | debia | I was told to read about permissions and ownership and such, but I did that and this kind of error just puzzles me. |
| 01:45.27 | MadHatter42 | i have to encode it |
| 01:45.30 | Sneaky | http://youtu.be/5JniVxr5zvw |
| 01:45.37 | MadHatter42 | smokesifter, https://www.debian-administration.org/article/471/Supplying_routing_information_using_DHCP |
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| 01:46.05 | debia | got this: drwxr--r-- 2 repository www-data 4096 Dec 5 11:34 local |
| 01:46.23 | debia | sudo -u repository touch local/test.txt |
| 01:46.33 | debia | touch: cannot touch `local/test.txt': Permission denied |
| 01:46.35 | debia | damn |
| 01:46.48 | MadHatter42 | debia, whats the path ? |
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| 01:47.03 | debia | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:47.06 | dondelelcaro | MadHatter42: but you're supposed to get those ICMP redirects; what's the problem with them? |
| 01:47.13 | debia | yes, the parent directory of local/ got the same permissions |
| 01:47.17 | dltl | debia: cd .. then your touch |
| 01:47.35 | dltl | be in /srv/test1/test2/test3 dir |
| 01:47.40 | MadHatter42 | dondelelcaro, i want that traffic routed directly , not passing through the router as it tends to overload it |
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| 01:48.23 | debia | dltl: yes, cwd is the dir where local/ is |
| 01:48.28 | debia | dltl: still fails :( |
| 01:48.30 | debia | whines |
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| 01:48.33 | dondelelcaro | MadHatter42: the ICMP redirect should cause that to happen |
| 01:48.59 | MadHatter42 | dondelelcaro, well apparently it doesnt as i keep getting them |
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| 01:49.10 | MadHatter42 | and the traffic keeps being routed in the router |
| 01:49.23 | MadHatter42 | but this is a nice solution |
| 01:49.37 | MadHatter42 | the encoding with dnsmasq |
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| 01:49.52 | dondelelcaro | MadHatter42: it's possible that one of the hosts isn't accepting the redirect |
| 01:50.13 | dltl | debia: what does the ls -la local/test.txt show |
| 01:50.15 | MadHatter42 | they're windows 8 clients |
| 01:50.35 | MadHatter42 | dondelelcaro, it would be weird |
| 01:50.38 | MadHatter42 | anyway |
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| 01:51.06 | debia | dltl: ls: cannot access local/test.tx |
| 01:51.19 | debia | dltl: *t No such file or directory |
| 01:51.28 | debia | the local/ directory is still empty |
| 01:51.50 | dondelelcaro | MadHatter42: well, it wouldn't be the first time that microsoft's routing stack was broken, but adding things to the routing table should also work |
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| 01:52.16 | dltl | ls -la /srv/test1/test2/test2 |
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| 01:52.45 | dltl | dondelelcaro: i think windows has borrowed the bsd stack now |
| 01:52.53 | MadHatter42 | dondelelcaro, yeah, well apparently even if i set up the option to set up static routes i should also add that options on the client |
| 01:53.07 | debia | dltl: interesting thing I found out: When I log in as user repository, I can only view /a, but /b is permission denied when trying to cd in or vieweing it :/ |
| 01:53.11 | MadHatter42 | so its a lose-lose situation |
| 01:53.21 | smokesifter | MadHatter42: Is there a way to push routes through AD or group policy? |
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| 01:53.35 | MadHatter42 | smokesifter, yes |
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| 01:53.47 | dltl | MadHatter42: get down and dirty and use ip route (or route if installed) |
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| 01:54.08 | MadHatter42 | dltl, i have windows 8 clients a debian router |
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| 01:54.54 | dltl | debia: in /srv do chown -R repository.www-date . |
| 01:55.13 | debia | dltl: yes, the ownership/permissions of the parent directories is far too restrictive |
| 01:55.29 | smokesifter | MadHatter42: is there a downside to using GP for you? |
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| 01:56.03 | MadHatter42 | smokesifter, i dont have an AD for the moment |
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| 01:56.20 | smokesifter | MadHatter42: how many clients do you have? |
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| 01:56.59 | MadHatter42 | 40 at the moment |
| 01:57.13 | smokesifter | ugh, I can't imagine having that many windows machines and no domain server... |
| 01:57.39 | MadHatter42 | smokesifter, they dont want to buy a windows server |
| 01:57.46 | MadHatter42 | licencing problems |
| 01:57.56 | smokesifter | not even a small business server? |
| 01:58.33 | MadHatter42 | i've worked on multi-nationals with thousands of clients and falling in that environment its a bit of a drag |
| 01:58.46 | MadHatter42 | smokesifter, nope |
| 01:59.00 | smokesifter | And they won't buy a better router that can handle the traffic? |
| 01:59.08 | MadHatter42 | they have servers but there is the licencing issue |
| 01:59.45 | MadHatter42 | smokesifter, i'm waiting for an ASA |
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| 02:00.03 | MadHatter42 | eventhough i like my little debian more |
| 02:00.13 | debia | dltl: I think I found it out, permissions were screwed for /srv |
| 02:00.22 | MadHatter42 | as i've mastered iptables :P |
| 02:00.59 | MadHatter42 | anyway |
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| 02:01.20 | MadHatter42 | I've set the helpdesk to manually add those static routes xD |
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| 02:01.26 | smokesifter | oh lol |
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| 02:01.42 | MadHatter42 | i've got two powerful servers there |
| 02:01.53 | MadHatter42 | has anyone experience with AD in linux ? |
| 02:02.08 | dltl | MadHatter42: now that you have mastered iptables you can do nftables ;) |
| 02:02.20 | MadHatter42 | nooooooooo xD |
| 02:02.31 | MadHatter42 | why do they do this |
| 02:02.38 | MadHatter42 | as soon as I learn something |
| 02:02.41 | MadHatter42 | they upgrade it |
| 02:02.42 | MadHatter42 | xD |
| 02:03.02 | MadHatter42 | dltl, i've implemented extras in fact |
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| 02:03.14 | MadHatter42 | one of my favorites was the fuzzy module |
| 02:03.15 | MadHatter42 | :D |
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| 02:03.23 | MadHatter42 | its based on fuzzy logic |
| 02:03.26 | MadHatter42 | blocking |
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| 02:05.05 | dltl | hey i started with ipchains imagine my torments ;) |
| 02:05.17 | MadHatter42 | XD lulz |
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| 02:31.31 | MadHatter42 | Is it because you're unfamiliar with iptables' byzantine syntax? |
| 02:31.36 | MadHatter42 | LOL |
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| 02:31.54 | MadHatter42 | someone referred to iptables syntax as byzantine |
| 02:32.04 | MadHatter42 | i loled so hard at that |
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| 02:53.54 | MrMonkey31 | before my head explodes: what's the syntax for excluding a folder, e.g. /media from a find / command? |
| 02:54.38 | MrMonkey31 | (I've never quite gotten used to locate so I typically do "find / -name x" ) |
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| 03:16.05 | felix_mc | are there any naming conventions for linux/unix commands? |
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| 03:19.59 | Epakai | no |
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| 03:25.10 | Zzeiss | felix_mc: Yes. Short, inscrutable, and "do one thing". |
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| 03:25.40 | Zzeiss | At least, that used to be the method. But, their kung fu has weakened.... |
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| 03:31.21 | auscompgeek | MrMonkey31: you probably want -prune |
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| 03:38.02 | Zzeiss | Ahhh.... solution on how to configure a networked printer in Debian. Browse to localhost:631, log in as root, and go from there. |
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| 03:46.48 | auscompgeek | Azitrex_: the debian installer and yumi are incompatible |
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| 03:47.11 | auscompgeek | the yumi page even warns of this |
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| 03:53.15 | rryoumaa | i am getting these errors: "rsync: |
| 03:53.16 | rryoumaa | readlink_stat("/media/newroot/etc/ld.so.cache/init.d") |
| 03:53.16 | rryoumaa | failed: Input/output error (5)" (and a few others like it) |
| 03:53.16 | rryoumaa | and "JBD2: Spotted dirty metadata buffer (dev = dm-4, |
| 03:53.16 | rryoumaa | blocknr = 0). There's a risk of filesystem corruption in |
| 03:53.16 | rryoumaa | case of system crash." but fsck shows clean. |
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| 04:30.01 | vs34sA5yZf | how to install paludis in debian? Is there a paludis.deb package? |
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| 04:33.51 | addaitech | vs34sA5yZf http://paludis.exherbo.org/overview/gettingstarted.html |
| 04:34.29 | vs34sA5yZf | it's for gentoo-based system |
| 04:34.41 | addaitech | read the page, it has a debian repo |
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| 04:37.59 | vs34sA5yZf | if you are saying about line "debian http://debian.blueyonder.co.uk/" than it is for repositories when it is already installed |
| 04:38.15 | vs34sA5yZf | and I am asking how to install portage itself in debian |
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| 04:39.16 | vs34sA5yZf | addaitech: i don't see "apt-get install portage" or "apt-get install cave" commands in this page |
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| 05:02.07 | Gemclip | I am working with a new distro. It is using KSE. Is there a way to make a text file of all the menus and menu structure? |
| 05:02.19 | Gemclip | KSE=KDE |
| 05:03.07 | auscompgeek | vs34sA5yZf: uhh.... debian isn't gentoo |
| 05:03.58 | vs34sA5yZf | auscompgeek: so, how to install paludis in debian ? |
| 05:04.15 | auscompgeek | vs34sA5yZf: paludis is for gentoo, not debian |
| 05:04.25 | auscompgeek | what are you trying to do? |
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| 05:04.49 | vs34sA5yZf | auscompgeek: I am trying to avoid usage of stage3 (i don't trust it) |
| 05:05.04 | auscompgeek | ... what is stage3? |
| 05:05.13 | tuxcluster | I was wondering the same thing |
| 05:05.52 | vs34sA5yZf | stage3 is an archive of binary programs, which are unpacked into empty partition to form base exherbo or gentoo system |
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| 05:06.11 | auscompgeek | yeah, this is #debian, not #gentoo |
| 05:06.30 | Gemclip | Ultimently I would like a list of every option along with what the underlaying command being called is |
| 05:06.30 | auscompgeek | I still don't know what you're trying to do |
| 05:06.39 | vs34sA5yZf | that is why I want to install paludis in debian, and build all programs in debian |
| 05:07.02 | auscompgeek | why wouldn't you just use debian then |
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| 05:12.26 | rryoumaa | in virtualbox when i run "shutdown now" it does not shut down but reboots. is this a debian bug or a virtualbox bug? |
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| 05:17.45 | gnugr | rryoumaa: you didn't define "when" try "shutdown -h now" (as root) |
| 05:18.10 | rryoumaa | gnugr: thanks (should have confirmed man page) |
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| 05:18.27 | rryoumaa | (still debugging the error i described before) |
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| 05:52.04 | test6 | I have a problem with exim4 under debian and am looking for some assistance. If anyone here can help me out or refer me to somewhere that can I would greatly appreciate it. |
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| 05:54.31 | test6 | who me? |
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| 06:13.56 | auscompgeek | test6: maybe you could ask the exim folks |
| 06:14.10 | auscompgeek | test6: #exim seems to exist |
| 06:14.59 | test6 | yeah no one responding in there |
| 06:16.05 | auscompgeek | test6: welp, it's not like we're mind readers anyway :P |
| 06:16.21 | test6 | lol true |
| 06:16.35 | tuxcluster | Might be worth just asking your question; someone might respond. |
| 06:16.48 | test6 | not real sure where to start so ill do my best |
| 06:16.54 | test6 | i own a domain through godaddy |
| 06:17.03 | test6 | i have 6 debian servers around the us |
| 06:17.11 | test6 | each has thier own hostname |
| 06:17.23 | test6 | i want to send email from them but every place rejects the mssages |
| 06:17.34 | test6 | i have no experience here |
| 06:18.22 | test6 | i am familiar with debian and shorewall and webmin and lots of stuff just totally clueless on email spf records and stuff |
| 06:19.09 | auscompgeek | test6: have you set up spf records? |
| 06:19.20 | test6 | i believe i have.. |
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| 06:19.27 | test6 | but i am not 100% its correct |
| 06:19.31 | auscompgeek | uhm... which domain name? |
| 06:19.37 | test6 | pinkfuzzy.net |
| 06:19.53 | test6 | google apps for business handles all my email |
| 06:20.01 | test6 | i just want to be able to send out from my servers |
| 06:21.33 | test6 | thank you for taking a few minutes to try and help me |
| 06:21.46 | auscompgeek | right, so uhh... that spf record, I believe, says to accept mail from pinkfuzzy.net from 162.250.233.143 and gmail, otherwise reject it as spam |
| 06:22.05 | test6 | ok then that is my problem i think |
| 06:22.14 | auscompgeek | let me double-check that though |
| 06:22.15 | test6 | pinkfuzzy.net is not the server i am trying to send from |
| 06:22.19 | test6 | ok ty |
| 06:22.48 | auscompgeek | wait no |
| 06:23.02 | auscompgeek | ~ is softfail, sorry |
| 06:23.06 | test6 | i thought i told any a record could send |
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| 06:23.19 | test6 | but like i said this new territory for me |
| 06:23.31 | auscompgeek | but you only have one a record for that hostname |
| 06:23.41 | test6 | ok im confused aus |
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| 06:23.46 | auscompgeek | pinkfuzzy.net. 3599 IN A 162.250.233.143 |
| 06:23.59 | auscompgeek | that's the only A record for pinkfuzzy.net |
| 06:24.11 | test6 | a host isnt a record? |
| 06:24.39 | auscompgeek | I don't understand your question |
| 06:24.57 | test6 | i think it is me who is confused auscomp |
| 06:25.18 | test6 | lets say i have x.pinkfuzzy.net pinkfuzzy.net x2.pinkfuzzy.net x3.pinkfuzzy.net |
| 06:25.26 | test6 | and i want to send from x.pinkfuzzy.net |
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| 06:26.04 | test6 | i have added what godaddy calls ahosts for each entry |
| 06:26.15 | auscompgeek | except how would a receiving mail server know about the A record for x.pinkfuzzy.net? |
| 06:26.22 | auscompgeek | (hint: they don't) |
| 06:26.37 | test6 | im trying to learn here |
| 06:27.10 | auscompgeek | so for your example, the receiving mail server would see the IP 74.138.255.82 |
| 06:27.26 | test6 | correct |
| 06:27.36 | auscompgeek | which has a corresponding PTR record to cpe-74-138-255-82.swo.res.rr.com. |
| 06:28.01 | auscompgeek | it would also receive your domain name pinkfuzzy.net |
| 06:28.19 | auscompgeek | which has an spf record: pinkfuzzy.net. 96 IN TXT "v=spf1 a mx ptr ~all" |
| 06:28.44 | test6 | aus im really trying to help myself here but im lost |
| 06:29.02 | auscompgeek | the server would first look at the a record for pinkfuzzy.net. |
| 06:29.13 | test6 | ok which it would get a differant ip |
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| 06:29.24 | auscompgeek | yeah, so then it would move on to the mx test |
| 06:29.40 | auscompgeek | all the mx records point to gmail |
| 06:29.43 | test6 | my mx records are set to google |
| 06:29.45 | test6 | correct |
| 06:29.50 | auscompgeek | so then it looks at the ptr |
| 06:29.55 | auscompgeek | which isn't on your domain |
| 06:30.01 | auscompgeek | so then it reaches ~all |
| 06:31.29 | test6 | im trying here |
| 06:31.39 | auscompgeek | so the mailserver would then say, ok, this mail softfailed the spf tests for the domain |
| 06:32.02 | test6 | i dont see how this is where im confused i think |
| 06:32.16 | test6 | i told the ptr any a host can send |
| 06:32.37 | auscompgeek | huh? |
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| 06:33.04 | auscompgeek | that IP doesn't match a, mx, or ptr |
| 06:33.11 | auscompgeek | so it ends up at ~all |
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| 06:33.25 | test6 | the all means any a host? |
| 06:34.07 | auscompgeek | the all means any host that didn't match the previous rules |
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| 06:35.32 | test6 | im reading this over and over and have a buddy remoted in to my pc reading it trying to help |
| 06:35.40 | test6 | im sorry but we both just dont get it :( |
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| 06:37.25 | auscompgeek | might be worth reading https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sender_Policy_Framework |
| 06:38.16 | test6 | can u just explain to me where im messing up? |
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| 06:38.34 | test6 | thats a huge page of some complicated stuff |
| 06:38.49 | auscompgeek | that's somewhat difficult without re-explaining what your SPF record is doing |
| 06:38.52 | test6 | i have read so many articles |
| 06:39.00 | Dan39 | what am i doing in here <_< |
| 06:39.02 | test6 | i have even tried to send through google as a relay |
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| 06:39.16 | auscompgeek | sending through google should work |
| 06:39.46 | auscompgeek | I don't see why it wouldn't (google's servers should match the mx mechanism) |
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| 06:39.52 | test6 | i have tried this so many times and failed |
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| 06:42.12 | ghormoon | hi, is it possible to tweak ntfs mount? it performs terribly when I'm compiling project on it (and mount.ntfs takes like 10x the CPU time more than the compilation itself), or is it faster to back it up somewhere and format? :) |
| 06:43.02 | auscompgeek | test6: which domain are you trying to send to anyway |
| 06:43.07 | test6 | so auscompgeek your saying i have not setup my spf correctly |
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| 06:43.22 | test6 | i want to send from all of them if possible |
| 06:43.30 | test6 | i figured its the same setup for all correct? |
| 06:44.03 | auscompgeek | basically, yeah... |
| 06:44.18 | auscompgeek | take a look at the implementation section of that wikipedia article |
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| 06:46.34 | auscompgeek | test6: anyway, which domain were you trying to send to |
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| 06:47.30 | test6 | u mean from? |
| 06:47.40 | test6 | i was getting it working from my server here first |
| 06:48.06 | auscompgeek | I know what domain you're trying to send from (pinkfuzzy.net), I'm asking what domain you're trying to send to |
| 06:48.25 | test6 | gmail yahoo aol |
| 06:48.27 | test6 | any email |
| 06:48.50 | test6 | users can request a password reset |
| 06:48.54 | test6 | and they get an email |
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| 06:48.58 | Dan39 | im back :P |
| 06:49.02 | Dan39 | or not :( |
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| 06:49.03 | test6 | welcome back |
| 06:49.06 | test6 | or not |
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| 07:06.07 | auscompgeek | anyone else wanna try helping test6? s/he has me completely lost now :P |
| 07:07.04 | test6 | im sorry i confused u |
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| 07:55.17 | beepie | ahem i had interrupted accidentally apt-get upgrade, and i recall there's many packages that need to be continued.. there a way to do resume it? dpkg --configure -a is not resuming where i left off |
| 07:55.18 | beepie | :( |
| 07:55.21 | beepie | cries |
| 07:56.30 | vspy | beepie, maybe apt-get install -f can help you |
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