| 00:00.01 | Chiyo | * that |
| 00:00.01 | mofino | Chiyo, ok |
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| 00:00.28 | mofino | Chiyo, maybe try enabling a frequent SSH keepalive |
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| 00:00.51 | Chiyo | right, i'll look into it |
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| 00:02.25 | mofino | hramrach_, about that udev problem, you can probably stop the udev script from modifying the net-rules |
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| 00:02.46 | mofino | hramrach_, maybe with chattr +i (ugly), or edit the script itself (also ugly) |
| 00:03.10 | hramrach_ | yes, there should be an option for that |
| 00:03.20 | mofino | static entries? |
| 00:03.26 | hramrach_ | but something is broken there :s |
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| 00:03.44 | hramrach_ | it generates new static entry every time I plug in the card :/ |
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| 00:03.47 | mofino | yeah |
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| 00:03.57 | mofino | script must have a bug |
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| 00:04.23 | mofino | i believe it's /lib/udev/write_net_rules |
| 00:04.32 | mofino | maybe you can just wrap that for now |
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| 00:08.02 | hramrach_ | hmm, there is even a doc http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd/PredictableNetworkInterfaceNames/ |
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| 00:14.49 | hramrach_ | hmm, and seems udev might possibly get confused by 70-persistent-net.rules~ |
| 00:15.19 | hramrach_ | but weeded out lots of udev stuff so not sure anymore |
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| 00:18.34 | hramrach_ | yes, was probably it at some point but initially there should have been no ~ file |
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| 00:18.50 | hramrach_ | also I wonder why vim creates them on some system and not others |
| 00:19.29 | hramrach_ | but it works for now |
| 00:19.32 | hramrach_ | thanks for help |
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| 00:26.25 | mofino | hramrach_, ahh nice find |
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| 00:32.36 | JyZyXEL | why does man2html have to bring apache2 with it? |
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| 00:34.22 | eurobit | the word html? means nothing to your |
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| 00:36.31 | LV-426 | JyZyXEL, checkout man2html-base |
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| 00:52.36 | tcurdt_ | just dist-upgrade'ed to jessie and I am now seeing "Failed to start Login Service" - no console. Any suggestions? |
| 00:52.53 | tcurdt_ | have a ssh connection though |
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| 00:56.12 | ctmjr | tcurdt_, question about jessie should go to #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
| 00:56.28 | tcurdt_ | ctmjr: thx |
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| 00:59.18 | COOOOOOOL | sup |
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| 00:59.42 | COOOOOOOL | ubuntu vs. debian? |
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| 01:01.18 | ompaul | obviously it is gentoo,, more to the point could you at least engage your brain before you ask that question in either #debian or the ubuntu channel |
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| 01:10.47 | CheckDavid_ | Hello. I don't know which of thhese isos I should choose for debian live http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ |
| 01:11.22 | jasw | current-live |
| 01:12.02 | CheckDavid_ | OH sorry, I am confused here: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/7.7.0-live+nonfree/amd64/ |
| 01:12.06 | CheckDavid_ | NOt at that step |
| 01:12.40 | CheckDavid_ | Oh, but why the live instead of the live+nonfree ? |
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| 01:13.54 | jasw | Bcs it;s included no-free softwre, like some firmware |
| 01:14.22 | jasw | For desktop it's better (some wi-fi cards required non-free firmware) |
| 01:14.26 | CheckDavid_ | And what is the problem of that? |
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| 01:15.33 | jasw | https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-archive.html |
| 01:15.50 | CheckDavid_ | Didn't you recommend the current-live one? |
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| 01:17.01 | jasw | current-live will be most stable version. |
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| 01:18.32 | pingfloyd | If you have wifi, you probably want the non-free one |
| 01:18.33 | CheckDavid_ | But what is it missing after all? Firm ware? DOn't i need it jasw ? |
| 01:18.34 | marioxcc | Hello. How can I connect and access a USB flash memory while limiting it to interface to the computer as a storage device?. |
| 01:18.54 | marioxcc | (So as to prevent virtual keyboard attacks) |
| 01:18.56 | CheckDavid_ | pingfloyd: if I have wifi? Define "have". |
| 01:18.57 | pingfloyd | Iirc, it has the non free firmware integrated |
| 01:19.05 | gagha | I'm trying to create a symlink to move stuff on home directory to my external HDD so I can expand my space. I want to have my /home/me/Downloads sit on my ext. HDD so after removing my old Downloads, I'm doing ' sudo ln -s /home/me/Downloads /mnt/myHDD/home/me/Downloads ' however, I get a permission denied error. Why is this? I am running as root t |
| 01:19.06 | gagha | oo |
| 01:19.28 | jasw | CheckDavid_ so get non-free+live |
| 01:19.40 | CheckDavid_ | pingfloyd: it what? The current-live has non-free? |
| 01:20.09 | pingfloyd | The non-free version of the debian live image |
| 01:20.12 | CheckDavid_ | I don't knw the difference between iso and bt hybrid |
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| 01:21.29 | pingfloyd | CheckDavid: this is about dfsg policy. Debian doesn't support non-free, but they make it available. |
| 01:22.40 | gagha | Is using symbolic links to extend my space on my company machine a good choice if I want to have my /home /tmp /user sit on external HDD? |
| 01:22.51 | pingfloyd | Just like how the non-free repo isn't included by default |
| 01:23.01 | jasw | gagha: ln source target |
| 01:23.26 | eurobit | gagha: only problem with that is /tmp is a dir for quick access work ... |
| 01:23.27 | jasw | pingfloyd: ln -s /mnt/myHDD/home/me/Downloads /home/me/Downloads |
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| 01:23.49 | pingfloyd | jasw: what? |
| 01:23.51 | gagha | jasw: that's hard link for files I need to link directories like /home /use |
| 01:24.10 | jasw | gagha: look, i used ln -s |
| 01:24.29 | pingfloyd | That isn't a hard link |
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| 01:24.45 | pingfloyd | You should do it proper anyway |
| 01:24.57 | gagha | Right I was referring to when you said ln source target |
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| 01:25.19 | pingfloyd | Like put a filesystem (s) on there and mount to the correct mount points |
| 01:25.43 | pharpend | Hey guys, not quite a debian question. I have a clone of dpkg running in my channel. We can't figure out how to use him to do channel operations, even though he has the commands to do so |
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| 01:26.33 | eurobit | what a funny channel |
| 01:26.56 | eurobit | and abrotman doesn't think debian is an entry level distro |
| 01:27.19 | gagha | jasw: so my HDD drive comes first after "ln -s" ? |
| 01:27.31 | pingfloyd | Entry level is subjective |
| 01:27.34 | eurobit | he said source target |
| 01:27.40 | Devastator | gentoo is an entry level distro |
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| 01:27.57 | eurobit | gentoo is NOT an entry level distro ... you kidding |
| 01:28.08 | Devastator | it is my opinion |
| 01:28.08 | jasw | gagha: your external hdd first, then symlnik to home directory |
| 01:28.13 | pingfloyd | Gentoo isn't hard |
| 01:28.13 | ctmjr | gagha, ln -s <destination file or directory> <name of the symlink> |
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| 01:28.32 | gagha | Bingo |
| 01:28.34 | pingfloyd | You just have to be able read to install gentoo |
| 01:28.34 | eurobit | and your opinion sucks/is wrong/delerious/superfluous/..... |
| 01:29.00 | Devastator | still my opinion |
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| 01:29.22 | GreenGl0w | Hi! i have a problem with my initrd.img it seams that update-initramfs doesn't coppy modules. |
| 01:29.55 | gagha | F yes!! Sorry guys. Just learning NAS, binding, mounting, fs, etc. I would take it that symlinks aren't commonly used in enterprise storage and rather real partitions of NAS servers are? |
| 01:30.43 | marioxcc | Hello. How can I connect a USB flash memory and restrict it to behave as such (Rather than as a keyboard, etc...)? |
| 01:30.45 | pingfloyd | gagha: using them in the way you are is a bandaid |
| 01:31.32 | eurobit | marioxcc: you have a usb flash drive that thinks it is a keyboard? |
| 01:31.56 | pingfloyd | gagha: the right way is creating new fs where you want, copy the data to it, update /etc/fstab |
| 01:32.09 | marioxcc | eurobit: No. |
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| 01:32.23 | Nick_name_ | hi |
| 01:32.26 | Nick_name_ | i have a question |
| 01:32.53 | wblanken- | Does anybody have any experience here statically compiling a binary for a file that calls `getaddrinfo`? |
| 01:32.56 | Nick_name_ | is it possible, to connect a monitor to the second output of my grafic card, dont enable it as a system monitor |
| 01:33.28 | Nick_name_ | then write the image i want to show on it directly into the framebuffer? the image has the native size as the monitor has |
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| 01:33.41 | gagha | pingfloyd: I assumed so. Hey if I have a company machine that's encrypted and I see /Dev/mapper/company-home is it a good idea to keep that device name and switch the actual partition on an NAS server? |
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| 01:35.12 | pingfloyd | The crypt name won't matter as long as /etc/crypttab is referencing correctly |
| 01:36.32 | pingfloyd | That's what creates the name, but if something references /dev/mapper/home-company then it will be dangling if that changes |
| 01:36.49 | pingfloyd | I usually have lvm over luks |
| 01:37.17 | pingfloyd | So the the crypt container doesn't get directly referenced in my case |
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| 01:37.53 | pingfloyd | The LVs do in my case, but only by /etc/fstab |
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| 01:38.14 | marioxcc | How can I connect a USB flash memory and restrict it to behave as such (Rather than as a keyboard, etc...)? (For security) |
| 01:38.20 | eurobit | how often do you scramble to recover your filesystems? |
| 01:38.39 | gagha | Pingfloyd: so even though I've setup encryption from install with separate partitions for /usr /var etc., can I move those separate partitions made from install to a NAS or external HDD and have it still be referenced as /Dev/mapper/company-home? |
| 01:38.51 | eurobit | marioxcc: no one understands what you are asking.. hence my question before |
| 01:39.14 | gagha | By move meaning creating new partitions and removing the old ones to replace them with new ones |
| 01:39.19 | gagha | Would that void luks? |
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| 01:39.49 | marioxcc | eurobit: Hmm, thanks for the observation. I want to make sure that it is identified only as an USD flash memory, and not as an USB hub that has a keyboard connected. It's possible for an USB device to do that for malicious reasons. |
| 01:39.53 | marioxcc | What wording would you suggest?. |
| 01:41.21 | eurobit | if you do lsusb with the usb flash memory attached you see a usb keyboard? |
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| 01:41.51 | marioxcc | eurobit: No. It's not behaving bad, but I want to make sure to restrict it to behave as it should. |
| 01:41.54 | ultra | gagha: you want to set up a LVM with locale & NAS storage ? |
| 01:41.56 | marioxcc | Think of firewalls. |
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| 01:42.07 | gagha | if I've installed an encrypted Debian with installer, do I have lvm over like? |
| 01:42.11 | gagha | Over luks* |
| 01:42.43 | gagha | Ultra: wanna know how encrypted Debians can do that yes |
| 01:42.55 | eurobit | firewalls have nothing to do with flash drives or keyboards |
| 01:43.14 | ultra | not sure, but |
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| 01:43.20 | ultra | master.foo.com:/home /var nfs rw 0 0 |
| 01:43.33 | ultra | master.foo.com:/var /var nfs rw 0 0 |
| 01:43.54 | ultra | you would replace your current entires in /etc/fstab with the proper ones |
| 01:44.11 | gagha | Master.too.com being the nas server? |
| 01:44.13 | ultra | you could rsync your exsisting /var /home or whatever to your NFS server |
| 01:44.14 | gagha | Or my hostname |
| 01:44.22 | gagha | I get the idea |
| 01:44.25 | ultra | yes the hostname or ip of the nfs server |
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| 01:45.27 | ultra | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:45.54 | ultra | using hard mount and intr options are recommended |
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| 01:46.54 | marioxcc | How can I connect a USB flash memory and restrict it to behave as such (Rather than as a keyboard, etc...) to close the possible security hole of allowing it to input arbitrary keystrokes as a keyboard?. |
| 01:46.57 | gagha | Ultra: so I don't need to partition my NAS and I can create directories and hard link it? |
| 01:47.03 | GreenGl0w | ok so id doesent make any sens, when i run update-initramfs it says it is coppying modules, no errors or whatever. But when i unpack the img there is no trace of modules, beside modules.order |
| 01:47.09 | gagha | And that's preferred by many? |
| 01:48.12 | ultra | you mean to ask, "Should I set up on my NFS server seperate partitions to be exported for each partition to be mapped by the client?" |
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| 01:49.43 | gagha | Yes |
| 01:50.10 | gagha | Ultra: or is that not necessary if I want to use as much free space? |
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| 01:50.21 | gagha | And not limit the partition space |
| 01:50.35 | COOOOOOOL | sup |
| 01:51.00 | gagha | Like how symbolic linking doesn't have a set storage and can keep adding until it fills |
| 01:51.08 | ultra | or did I misinterpret your question, gagha ? because I'll be honest, I don't know if there is any difference between having on the NFS server a single partition which contains a filesystem /nfs/ and you export /nfs/var and /nfs/home - if this is any more or less desirable than creating two seperate partitions on the NFS server and exporting /mnt/nfs-var and /mnt/nfs-home |
| 01:51.24 | gagha | Sorry if my English is bad I am from China |
| 01:52.18 | ultra | if you want to make the most effecient use of your space, I would assume you would simply want one partition to house your NFS exported directories |
| 01:52.28 | gagha | Right |
| 01:52.32 | gagha | One for all |
| 01:52.58 | gagha | That way the disk space isn't limited and is dynamic as in gets filled when needed |
| 01:53.27 | ultra | using something like a zfs raid setup on your NFS server would be something to look into |
| 01:53.38 | eurobit | /ca/ca |
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| 01:54.35 | gagha | Ultra: what does it do |
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| 01:55.34 | ultra | http://bernaerts.dyndns.org/linux/75-debian/279-debian-wheezy-zfs-raidz-pool |
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| 01:58.20 | gagha | Thank you |
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| 01:59.36 | ultra | it's a softraid setup, allowing you to use multiple hard disks in a varienty of raid configurations, it has a excellent snapshotting system, which lets you for example take a snapshot every 5 minutes or whatever interval, and for very little storage overhead it uses deltas to allow you to restore the filesystem to it's state at whichever snapshot in the past you need |
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| 02:01.49 | ultra | which might be a rather critical feature for a you, in case of some sort of network failure you could corrupt data |
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| 02:03.00 | ultra | this would allow you to roll back to a recent snapshot point to reverse any ill effects of some sort of outage or issue with the storing of operating system files on a non-local NFS |
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| 02:12.53 | jaggz-a | netinstall now detects and allows me to pick efi for my partition.. but at the next step it says, |
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| 02:14.16 | jaggz-a | "the attempt to mount a file system with type vfat in SCSI3 (0,0,0), partition #1 (sdc) at /boot/efi failed |
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| 02:15.17 | eurobit | what does fdisk -l show |
| 02:15.51 | jaggz-a | just gpt |
| 02:15.57 | dvs | eurobit: all the partition on all your hard drives |
| 02:17.07 | eurobit | dvs no way !!! my question was for the guy having trouble mounting his vfat drive |
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| 02:17.43 | eurobit | dvs ... however thanks for not tell me to rtfm ;) |
| 02:17.46 | jaggz-a | parted shows it as ext4 |
| 02:18.29 | eurobit | you can't mount a partition as vfat if it is ext4 |
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| 02:19.20 | dvs | eurobit: man fdisk ;-P |
| 02:19.26 | jaggz-a | I didn't pick vfat.. it was ext4 before, I'm telling it to be efi (which likely meant fat32, I thought) |
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| 02:19.59 | eurobit | dvs as punishment for the rtfm you have to help jaggz-a ;) |
| 02:20.12 | dvs | runs for the hills |
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| 02:21.52 | eurobit | releases the hounds on dvs's trail |
| 02:22.15 | jaggz-a | fat-fs sdc1: utf8 is not a recommended io charset for fat filesystems, filesystem will be case sensitive! |
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| 02:23.25 | eurobit | oopppss one of the hounds seems to have been a pitbull .... my bad .. sorry dvs |
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| 02:23.41 | eurobit | jaggz-a: what does fdisk -l show |
| 02:24.12 | jaggz-a | answred up there |
| 02:24.22 | jaggz-a | hard to type |
| 02:24.42 | eurobit | just the partition in question and you can cutnpaste all your heart out |
| 02:26.02 | dvs | or pastebinit |
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| 02:30.22 | jaggz-a | ircing from phone |
| 02:30.55 | jaggz-a | euro, fdisk shows only gpt |
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| 02:31.15 | eurobit | what is gpt? |
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| 02:31.50 | eurobit | dvs ^^ you can give me the rtfm now ... but which man ;) |
| 02:31.51 | dvs | parted -l ? |
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| 02:32.23 | dvs | eurobit: man parted? ;-) |
| 02:32.35 | eurobit | GUID Partition Table |
| 02:32.52 | eurobit | what is the entry for this partition in /etc/fstab' |
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| 02:33.38 | jaggz-a | this is during install |
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| 02:35.43 | jaggz-a | sigh.. need rest.. will have to go soon |
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| 02:36.57 | eurobit | jaggz-a: please don't punish dvs like this |
| 02:37.07 | ephemer0l | hey, all. any tips for installing mysql-server? It cant --configure it because it cant set a password. |
| 02:38.20 | eurobit | ephemer0l: this is the time to switch to mariadb |
| 02:39.05 | ephemer0l | eurobit: whats the package called? I tried apt-cache search maria with no luck. |
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| 02:39.51 | eurobit | ephemer0l: this is the time to switch to _mariadb_ |
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| 02:41.11 | ephemer0l | yeah, well. this is a fresh install. I cant believe sql is this broken. Did I do something wrong when trying to install with 'apt-get install mysql-server'? |
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| 02:43.42 | ephemer0l | eurobit: ? |
| 02:43.53 | eurobit | don't know i use mariadb |
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| 02:45.43 | ephemer0l | apt-get <whats the package called> is it not in the main repo? Debian ships broken stuff? see mysql-server-5.5 |
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| 02:55.03 | ephemer0l | so you guys jumped on systemD but stuck with oracle's sql... I dont get it. |
| 02:57.32 | ephemer0l | Thanks, eurobit . MariaDB went in flawlessly... |
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| 02:58.12 | eurobit | the future bestows it's sql blessing upon ephemer0l's soul |
| 02:59.01 | eurobit | ephemer0l: mariadb is a 'drop in replacement' for mysql - so all you past/present/future coding should be good ... and install phpmyadmin |
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| 03:00.16 | ephemer0l | I've been running maria since like 5.3 or 5.4 on my production boxes. I only have debian on this toy of a vps. I wanted to stick with what was in debian's repos. I'm quite surprised in how it has gone so far... |
| 03:01.35 | ephemer0l | I've used percona in the past too... |
| 03:01.50 | eurobit | there is a #mariadb channel too |
| 03:01.59 | ephemer0l | but to not be able to install it from the repo... thats sad |
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| 03:04.35 | ephemer0l | vim > phpmyadmin |
| 03:05.03 | eurobit | what? |
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| 03:05.29 | eurobit | what relation are you imagining between vim and phpmyadmin |
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| 03:07.08 | ephemer0l | I prefer to use the manual file editing through the command line |
| 03:07.42 | pingfloyd | ephemer0l: you like ed? |
| 03:07.55 | eurobit | you edit a mysql data file using vim? |
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| 03:08.16 | pingfloyd | https://www.gnu.org/fun/jokes/ed-msg.html |
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| 03:09.00 | eurobit | oh yea with ed ... but not vi ;) |
| 03:09.09 | pingfloyd | notice the ^C twice. You can tell the victim was in disbelief that it didn't work and I can't blame them. |
| 03:09.21 | ephemer0l | haha, cute pingfloyd |
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| 03:10.08 | pingfloyd | what's funny is how hello is the only command with a ? |
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| 03:12.33 | pingfloyd | ephemer0l: that's like when Scotty got on a Mac for the first time. I think Scotty would have had a heart attack in ed. |
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| 03:26.20 | gentoo__ | Hi |
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| 03:36.47 | maxd | you mean where scotty spoke into the mouse? :D |
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| 03:51.38 | virtualizado | damn!!! i was watching ETHERAPE and iceweasel without add-ons and nothing connects to AMAZON and EBAY |
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| 03:52.19 | virtualizado | canonical sold user data to amazon once |
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| 03:52.29 | virtualizado | what can this be |
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| 03:58.51 | thebaaz | need some help with a debian webserver... im currently watching the disk space fill up and have no idea what is causing it. I'm running df -h and every minute or so, another 5mb of space is taken up. How can I determine what is eating the space? |
| 04:00.57 | COOOOOOOL | sup |
| 04:01.10 | COOOOOOOL | maybe a log file>? |
| 04:01.24 | COOOOOOOL | somone constalty accessing your webserver |
| 04:01.26 | COOOOOOOL | like a ddos |
| 04:01.34 | COOOOOOOL | and it logging it |
| 04:01.43 | thebaaz | right, but I can't seem to find it. I'm looking through all the log directories and don't see anything |
| 04:01.56 | COOOOOOOL | look in var |
| 04:02.00 | COOOOOOOL | in apache |
| 04:02.27 | CarlGel | Hi, I'm running Debian Jessie, and I'm having a strange issue with mpv, "mpv: symbol av_vdpau_alloc_context, version LIBAVCODEC_56 not defined in file libavcodec.so.56 with link time reference |
| 04:02.27 | CarlGel | " |
| 04:02.43 | CarlGel | I'm not sure what I broke |
| 04:04.02 | thebaaz | I don't know the exact commands... I'm not very well versed in linux. still a newb. the df -h doesn't seem to be that helpful... is there something more specific I can run? /var doesn't seem to be changing, |
| 04:04.10 | thebaaz | nothing in /etc/apache |
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| 04:17.15 | ROG3R | hi. do I need to install an update manager for my debian? |
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| 04:20.46 | auscompgeek | ROG3R: what's an update manager? |
| 04:20.51 | maxd | WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! |
| 04:20.58 | maxd | How can I find out the reason why they cannot be authenticated? |
| 04:21.03 | maxd | Is there a verbose switch? |
| 04:21.20 | auscompgeek | maxd: there is a verbose switch, yes |
| 04:22.20 | maxd | ok |
| 04:22.31 | maxd | -v is it not for sure |
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| 04:22.49 | ROG3R | auscompgeek: like mniUpdate |
| 04:22.56 | maxd | anyone? :( |
| 04:23.08 | COOOOOOOL | sup |
| 04:23.17 | COOOOOOOL | wat u need help with? |
| 04:23.46 | auscompgeek | maxd: "authenticated" means the Packages list was gpg signed and verified against your keyring |
| 04:24.53 | maxd | the point is that I signed those packages for a private repo, added the repo key to system |
| 04:24.58 | maxd | and it fails for this particular package |
| 04:25.03 | maxd | I would like to know why it does fail. |
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| 04:27.50 | maxd | hm, apt-key list doesn't show me the key though |
| 04:27.54 | maxd | debugging time... |
| 04:28.21 | auscompgeek | maxd: your key must've vanished :o |
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| 04:30.52 | maxd | ah, damn bootstrapping process |
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| 04:35.40 | RickHull | hi, I'm getting an outdated plugin warning on iceweasel for flash (jessie) |
| 04:35.57 | RickHull | but the iceweasel dialog process shows it is up to date |
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| 04:36.12 | RickHull | like if i try to update through iceweasel |
| 04:37.40 | OSVG | It's a mozilla issue. |
| 04:38.15 | RickHull | ok, will they disclaim iceweasel support? |
| 04:38.27 | RickHull | or should i not worry about it for now? |
| 04:38.33 | OSVG | It's not a support issue. Has to do with most recent mozilla changes. |
| 04:38.45 | OSVG | My windows Firefox is doing the same thing. |
| 04:39.52 | RickHull | ok, interesting |
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| 04:41.03 | auscompgeek | RickHull: yeah, your flash is actually out of date |
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| 04:41.41 | RickHull | how can/should I remedy? |
| 04:41.45 | auscompgeek | RickHull: update flash |
| 04:41.53 | RickHull | via? iceweasel says it's up to date |
| 04:41.57 | RickHull | when i go through its update process |
| 04:42.17 | auscompgeek | RickHull: how did you install flash in the first place? that should answer your question |
| 04:42.30 | RickHull | not 100% sure, probably via iceweasel |
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| 04:42.38 | auscompgeek | more likely through apt |
| 04:43.02 | auscompgeek | well, the debian flash installer package |
| 04:43.11 | RickHull | dpkg-query: no packages found matching flash |
| 04:43.34 | OSVG | Lemme know if you fix that, since I have the newest flash installed on both my Deb and my Win hosts and both have that issue. |
| 04:43.39 | OSVG | Would like to know what fixes it. |
| 04:43.48 | RickHull | aha, i have flashplugin-nonfree |
| 04:44.01 | RickHull | but i did an update/upgrade today and rebooted |
| 04:44.08 | auscompgeek | RickHull: https://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer#Upgrade |
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| 04:44.15 | RickHull | thx |
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| 04:44.39 | auscompgeek | fwiw I found that by searching "debian flash player" |
| 04:45.35 | auscompgeek | OSVG: for Windows, just download Flash direct from Adobe's website |
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| 04:46.51 | auscompgeek | wow, I thought I was in #firefox this whole time >_< |
| 04:47.03 | auscompgeek | s/I was in/this was/ |
| 04:47.07 | RickHull | heh |
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| 04:47.55 | OSVG | auscompgeek: did not fix, but not worried about it too much. |
| 04:48.23 | RickHull | i dunno, i figured the notice isn't just that it's out of date, but that it's known vulnerable, CVE style |
| 04:48.40 | auscompgeek | RickHull: updates were released by adobe on tuesday: http://www.adobe.com/software/flash/about/ |
| 04:48.50 | RickHull | oh ok, so just a scheduled thing |
| 04:49.07 | auscompgeek | nah, the update patches a 0-day CVE |
| 04:49.07 | DrakkenWarr | aye, nothing really to worry about just update |
| 04:49.17 | ROG3R | hi. do I need to install an update manager for my debian? |
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| 04:49.57 | auscompgeek | ROG3R: ... is "apt-get update && apt-get upgrade" not good enough for you? |
| 04:49.59 | DrakkenWarr | no ROG3R apt and aptitude are installed by default |
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| 04:50.42 | ROG3R | auscompgeek: DrakkenWarr oh ok. thx |
| 04:51.30 | DrakkenWarr | no worries |
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| 06:33.23 | eb0t | hey i use iceweasel and my flash player is outdated...so i click on the link and get taken to adobe suite |
| 06:33.59 | eb0t | i download a tar.gz file and then i issue command # tar -xvf file.tar.gz |
| 06:34.09 | eb0t | i end up with a .so file |
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| 06:34.15 | eb0t | i dont have a clue what to do with it |
| 06:34.50 | eb0t | sorry command i used was tar -zxvf filename.tar.gz |
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| 06:40.00 | PryMar56 | eb0t, apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree |
| 06:40.22 | pullphinger | hi all. holiday shopping season is apon us. any recommendations on hardware / laptops to install debian |
| 06:40.49 | eb0t | hi PryMar56 it says flashplugin is already the newest version |
| 06:41.20 | eb0t | so im wondering why my flash player is having issues....one sec ..i havent closed down firefox and restarted it maybe that is why |
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| 06:41.44 | PryMar56 | eb0t, then do dpkg -L flashplugin-nonfree <-- see where the *.so is installed |
| 06:42.42 | eb0t | thanks ..its working.....my goodness...i have been scouting around for hours as to why it isnt working .. |
| 06:42.47 | eb0t | i just had to restart firefox |
| 06:42.55 | eb0t | thanks PryMar56 |
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| 06:45.36 | auscompgeek | !flash player |
| 06:45.37 | dpkg | Flash is frequently used to deliver interactivity, audio and video through a web browser. Ask me about <gnash> and <lightspark> for free implementations, or <adobe flash> and <pepper flash> for non-free implementations. http://wiki.debian.org/Flash |
| 06:46.03 | auscompgeek | !adobe flash |
| 06:46.03 | dpkg | Adobe Flash Player is proprietary (non-free) software. The easiest way to install it is with the flashplugin-nonfree package, ask me about <contrib>. WARNING: installing flashplugin-nonfree will NOT automatically keep the plugin updated. Read more on https://wiki.debian.org/FlashPlayer. Try «update-flashplugin-nonfree --install» if the installation didn't seem to work or to update the plugin. |
| 06:46.25 | auscompgeek | eb0t: ^ |
| 06:46.55 | eb0t | thanks auscompgeek |
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| 07:02.28 | acrawford | damn deb jessie does it right, so many desktop options |
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| 07:16.36 | foul_owl | Hi folks. I'm getting messages in iceweasel saying that my version of flash is vulnerable and needs to be updated. I tried "flashplugin-nonfree" but it's already the latest version. Now what? |
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| 07:18.42 | osram | foul_owl: What's the plugin version you have? |
| 07:19.02 | foul_owl | Ah, sorry I'm stupid, "update-flashplugin-nonfree --install" did the trick |
| 07:19.06 | foul_owl | Thanks! |
| 07:19.10 | osram | foul_owl: \o/ |
| 07:20.20 | golinux | On squeeze LTS. Upgraded the kernel 2 days ago. Everything was going OK. Then out of nowhere I get a kernel failure popup after coming out of suspend. Everything seems to be working OK so I've just gone on about my business. But don't want to get bit down the road. What should I do? This ha never happened in the 10years I've been using Linux. |
| 07:20.51 | golinux | */has/has |
| 07:21.28 | smartass | hi, I have a problem with apt-get update: http://paste.debian.net/136324/ , my sources.list: http://paste.debian.net/136323/ ... I've run apt-get clean; apt-get update, always the same result |
| 07:23.13 | smartass | this used to work just fine, even with other sources currently commented out |
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| 07:24.51 | smartass | it works with ftp.de.debian.org, but not ftp.cz.debian.org |
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| 07:26.05 | osram | smartass: maybe the czech mirrors are having issues at this time. |
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| 07:26.52 | smartass | osram: seems so ... should I send an email to the ftpadmin? |
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| 07:27.34 | osram | smartass: if they're having issues their monitoring systems would've let them know immediately, ie. they're aware. |
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| 07:27.46 | osram | smartass: try again in a few hours. |
| 07:27.58 | smartass | osram: it's been several days, almost a week I think |
| 07:28.16 | osram | smartass: oh, that's unusual. |
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| 07:29.31 | osram | smartass: It looks up to me. |
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| 07:30.41 | smartass | osram: it is up, it works for wheezy/main and other (backport,sid ...) ... but not for contrib and non-free |
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| 07:32.49 | osram | smartass: Hmm, I don't know what's going on then. |
| 07:33.03 | smartass | indeed |
| 07:33.19 | smartass | sent them an email |
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| 07:35.10 | osram | smartass: I just dropped your 'deb http...' line in my sources.list and it works without issue. |
| 07:35.26 | smartass | osram: yeah, seems to wrok on another server I know |
| 07:35.28 | osram | smartass: maybe remove contrib and non-free from our deb-src line |
| 07:35.45 | osram | smartass: it works against the czech server. I just tried. |
| 07:36.05 | smartass | so some cache is interfering? |
| 07:36.53 | osram | I don't think so. Just that there may not be source for contrib/non-free. |
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| 07:38.43 | smartass | you're right ... it was the deb-src line |
| 07:38.50 | smartass | it used to work though |
| 07:39.07 | osram | smartass: your exact sources.list works perfectly for me. The problem must be at your end. |
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| 07:40.01 | jeeves | is there a way of changing a user's passwd without knowing the old one and not having root access? |
| 07:40.10 | osram | jeeves: no |
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| 07:40.25 | osram | because security ;) |
| 07:40.26 | smartass | osram: it works if I remove contrib and non-free form the deb-src line |
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| 07:40.52 | osram | smartass: that, to me, makes sense. |
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| 07:41.23 | smartass | osram: and it works for you if you leave them there? |
| 07:41.39 | smartass | hmm, now I put them back in there and it works |
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| 07:41.56 | osram | smartass: Yes it did. You probably had some cache corruption or something. |
| 07:43.00 | jeeves | osram, ok, so if I have a prebuilt image for my beaglebone black, and it didn't come with the user/pass and auto logs in, I'm screwed? |
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| 07:43.34 | osram | jeeves: no idea what a beaglebone black is. |
| 07:43.49 | jeeves | osram, it's a small embedded device. |
| 07:44.11 | jeeves | http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack |
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| 07:44.34 | osram | jeeves: I wouldn't say you're screwed - you just can't change your password :) |
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| 07:45.43 | jeeves | ok, I wish I could boot a "live cd" on it, then I could reset the root pw, but it won't boot from USB |
| 07:46.55 | jeeves | osram, lol, there are only one user on this image, so yes, I think I am |
| 07:47.19 | jeeves | osram, http://elinux.org/Beagleboard:BeagleBoneBlack |
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| 07:50.12 | jeeves | well, lets see if I can compile an Ubuntu image with the kernel drivers needed for this stupid screen before I go to bed |
| 07:50.21 | osram | jeeves: Maybe 'sudo su -' will work. In any case, this looks like a board to be experimented with (just like raspberry pi, etc). I'd be surprised if there wasn't a way to a) become root and b) flash your own OS into it. |
| 07:51.00 | linuxator | how to set time to UTC? |
| 07:51.30 | osram | jeeves: apparently the default user is 'root' with a blank password. |
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| 07:53.21 | jeeves | tried that!! |
| 07:53.53 | beepie | linuxator, it's an editing of an rcS somewhere, it should be online |
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| 07:54.12 | beepie | linuxator, http://www.kariliq.nl/misc/debian-clock.html |
| 07:55.02 | osram | jeeves: I'd follow http://beagleboard.org/getting-started, probably. That's really all the advice I can give you. Sorry. |
| 07:55.50 | jeeves | np. I'm just trying to get this stupid board to work. it's a really nice cap touch screen, but there is basically no support, and the company is in China, so trying to get ANY support is next to impossible |
| 07:57.05 | osram | jeeves: Is it running Angstrom or Debian? |
| 07:57.40 | linuxator | beepie, ok,thanx |
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| 07:58.34 | beepie | linuxator, time to roll! |
| 07:58.34 | beepie | behe |
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| 07:59.12 | beepie | wonders if people know how to use ahem yep |
| 07:59.13 | beepie | XD |
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| 08:00.37 | jeeves | beepie, it's been a slice! |
| 08:00.41 | jeeves | cheers |
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| 08:48.44 | linuxator | how to get mysql? |
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| 08:54.22 | auscompgeek | linuxator: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=how+to+get+mysql+debian |
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| 08:55.57 | osram | apt-get install mysql-server |
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| 09:06.31 | jakesyl | Hey I'm trying to setup an automated mail service for multiple domains for sending emails So like mail server on my server (or something) I set domains mx records to my domain and then i can send emails from tere |
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| 09:14.53 | ectospasm | jakesyl: Wheezy uses exim4 by default for mail, though I've only ever used it setting up a smarthost for sending mail to an SMTP server. I view mos mail servers as voodoo magic |
| 09:15.16 | ectospasm | s/mos/most/ |
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| 09:15.50 | jakesyl | any way to automate the configuration fora lot of domains |
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| 09:28.53 | linuxator | i wanna instll a sound mixer.what should i run? |
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| 09:35.36 | jareth_ | linuxator: aptitude install alsa-mixer ? |
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| 09:53.05 | EI24 | Hi, i am considering gettinig debian. When i look at diffrent architectures to install debian on, there are one i386 version, and a amd64(and many others strange ones.. I have no deep knowledge in computer harware). I have a intel x86-64 architecture, but there was not version for that. Should i download amd64? |
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| 09:55.51 | trewas | EI24: yes, amd64 is the correct choice |
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| 09:58.57 | virtualizado | MASTERS!!! i did a full kde install, and i would like to remove the extra languages. i googled and tryed but is very hard. anyone know an easy way? |
| 09:59.34 | EI24 | But, why is it called amd64? Is it like more fitted for amd architectures, and thereby will work on intel 64 architectures, but with less |
| 09:59.38 | Disconsented | Its probably easier to reinstall and when prompted to choose your packages choose nothing |
| 09:59.52 | EI24 | but will be less fitted |
| 09:59.54 | Disconsented | AMD invented it, thats why its called AMD64 |
| 10:00.00 | EI24 | ok |
| 10:00.07 | EI24 | Thanks! |
| 10:00.13 | Disconsented | nw |
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| 10:03.48 | EI24 | Another question, is it easy and smooth to upgrade from wheezy to jessy? |
| 10:07.42 | EI24 | No srry no need to answer, i found the answer when i searched a bit. I know that one should do research before asking. i typed and sent on a whim. |
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| 10:12.29 | virtualizado | MASTERS!!! i did a full kde install, and i would like to remove the extra languages. i googled and tryed but is very hard. anyone know an easy way? |
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| 10:12.59 | Disconsented | [22:59:38] <Disconsented> Its probably easier to reinstall and when prompted to choose your packages choose nothing |
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| 10:53.57 | virtualizado | omg omg i found some really strange thing here. with the command "sudo lsof -i" i found out that i have TOR LISTENING AND WITH AN ESTABLISHED CONNECTION! But i did not start tor browser for like 2 weeks... What is that? Why is tor running without me starting it???? |
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| 10:54.57 | carlos434 | I have followed advices of some people here, now debian not even start anymore, can someone tell me what's happened? I just see this http://imgur.com/4Fsrqyq they helped me to remove a desktop environment and upgrade all, that's the result, lost everything! |
| 10:55.51 | virtualizado | carlos434: lol |
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| 10:56.43 | virtualizado | carlos, people make mistakes, maybe the advisors, maybe you, happened both ways with me, i also got wrong advice sometimes. |
| 10:56.50 | beepie | tapout, i believe its cyprus and dovecot |
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| 10:57.51 | carlos434 | beepie, hi man you gave me some good advices, now i have lost all damn |
| 10:58.01 | virtualizado | Is better to have people talking to us than being ignored. right now, o need advice on my tor issue and anything that comes is welcome. |
| 10:58.11 | virtualizado | omg omg i found some really strange thing here. with the command "sudo lsof -i" i found out that i have TOR LISTENING AND WITH AN ESTABLISHED CONNECTION! But i did not start tor browser for like 2 weeks... What is that? Why is tor running without me starting it???? |
| 10:59.21 | Aenigma | virtualizado: you probably have tor the debian package |
| 10:59.56 | carlos434 | virtualizado, you have friends that wanna see what you do so they help you better.. |
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| 11:00.34 | mardraum | carlos434: debian looks "started" to me, though your image doesn't help explain your issue at all. |
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| 11:00.58 | Aenigma | carlos434: everything is fine. you just don't have X |
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| 11:02.25 | carlos434 | mardraum, look that's the only thing i get, nothing else, not even the first colored start of debian that ask name password and desktop envirnment |
| 11:02.43 | virtualizado | Aenigma: yes, i have tor debian installed. is that wrong? Shall i install through the website? |
| 11:03.20 | virtualizado | Aenigma: i do not like tor running all the time, just when i need to open the browser |
| 11:03.36 | carlos434 | Aenigma, so i have to reinstall x? i just get that page when i start the computer |
| 11:04.12 | carlos434 | how to do? I don't know. that's jessie |
| 11:04.21 | carlos434 | debian testing |
| 11:04.22 | mardraum | carlos434: you just told us you removed your desktop environment |
| 11:04.51 | carlos434 | i wanted to remove mate |
| 11:05.08 | mardraum | looks like you succeeded. |
| 11:05.13 | carlos434 | Mate the desktop envirnonment |
| 11:05.22 | virtualizado | carlos434: so, install a new one now. if you have another machine with browser, just check how to install other desktop environment |
| 11:05.23 | carlos434 | but now there is nothing |
| 11:05.45 | carlos434 | there were gnome and xfce |
| 11:05.47 | mardraum | nothing except a working command prompt |
| 11:05.48 | carlos434 | as well |
| 11:05.59 | virtualizado | carlos434: if you removed of course there is none if you did not install another |
| 11:06.28 | virtualizado | start x gives no result, carlos? |
| 11:06.47 | carlos434 | i dont know i should try |
| 11:07.02 | carlos434 | now i am on another OS |
| 11:07.43 | virtualizado | well, start x is the command to start graphical interface |
| 11:07.53 | virtualizado | try to do it |
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| 11:08.10 | virtualizado | and when you do, if do not work, tcome back and tell us the output |
| 11:08.12 | carlos434 | how to do it? |
| 11:08.21 | carlos434 | what command should i give? |
| 11:08.25 | virtualizado | start x |
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| 11:08.41 | carlos434 | start x |
| 11:08.45 | carlos434 | that's it? |
| 11:08.47 | virtualizado | yes just that |
| 11:08.51 | carlos434 | ok |
| 11:08.54 | hrnz | startx |
| 11:08.57 | hrnz | ._. |
| 11:08.58 | carlos434 | i will come back soon |
| 11:09.01 | virtualizado | wait |
| 11:09.10 | virtualizado | listen to hrnz |
| 11:09.12 | virtualizado | i am very noob |
| 11:09.17 | carlos434 | ok |
| 11:09.20 | carlos434 | startx |
| 11:09.20 | virtualizado | is startx without space |
| 11:09.25 | carlos434 | thanks |
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| 11:10.46 | linuxator | how to get tvheadend? |
| 11:11.06 | virtualizado | i found some really strange thing here. with the command "sudo lsof -i" i found out that i have TOR LISTENING AND WITH AN ESTABLISHED CONNECTION! Aenigma told me that is because i installed tor through debian repos. what shall i do so tor wont start alone? |
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| 11:11.42 | hrnz | systemctl disable tor.service |
| 11:12.40 | virtualizado | hrnz: will i need to make any change in torsocks or anything else when i need to run tor? |
| 11:12.45 | linuxator | how to get tvheadend?is it in repos? |
| 11:13.04 | hrnz | virtualizado: you need to start tor first? |
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| 11:14.01 | linuxator | E: Unable to locate package tvheadend |
| 11:14.18 | redstonecraftpl | Hi! I have trouble with skype installation. Debian 7.7 64bit Here is what i get when i try to install packet by dpkg http://wklej.org/id/1556518/ |
| 11:14.50 | carlos435 | It was xstart? Sorry I forget it |
| 11:15.09 | virtualizado | hrnz: i do not know very well, i use tor for tor browser, and SOMETIMES for pidgin. so when i want pidgin with tor i use torsocks package i installed in repos (torsocks aplication name) and i also use a tor mail account in thunderbird, but when i need any of them i always started tor browser first, didn't know tor was already running |
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| 11:15.39 | hrnz | carlos435: startx |
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| 11:15.44 | carlos435 | Hrnz ok |
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| 11:15.56 | redstonecraftpl | Back |
| 11:15.59 | hrnz | virtualizado: I have no idea what you even want |
| 11:16.14 | hrnz | you just said that you don't want tor to autostart |
| 11:16.16 | hrnz | but now you do? |
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| 11:16.51 | virtualizado | hrzn: like in windows, when we want tor for something, we open tor browser, and that starts tor. so, after that, we start any other tor aplication |
| 11:16.54 | carlos435 | Should I insert my username and password first, on this black page, right? |
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| 11:17.47 | auscompgeek | virtualizado: then... just start tor when you need it? |
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| 11:18.10 | virtualizado | auscompgeek: yes, thats what i want, how do i do it? |
| 11:18.10 | auscompgeek | virtualizado: it's not like anything that uses tor on windows magically starts it anyway. |
| 11:18.21 | auscompgeek | you... you just run it? |
| 11:18.28 | redstonecraftpl | Any idea for my skype? |
| 11:18.28 | virtualizado | ahahahahah |
| 11:18.46 | virtualizado | yes yes but after i run it will it always stay loaded??? |
| 11:19.00 | virtualizado | i mean next restart, like it is now? |
| 11:19.11 | virtualizado | because i did not open no tor program |
| 11:19.24 | virtualizado | for like 2 weeks |
| 11:19.28 | virtualizado | and it is loaded |
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| 11:20.45 | auscompgeek | virtualizado: ... that depends on whether you've configured your system to start tor on boot or now |
| 11:20.49 | auscompgeek | s/now/not/ |
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| 11:21.35 | virtualizado | auscompgeek: yes, i want to use tor but not to start on boot by itself, thats what i would like |
| 11:21.58 | auscompgeek | virtualizado: then just disable the tor service and run tor when you need it |
| 11:22.30 | virtualizado | insserv: warning: current start runlevel(s) (empty) of script `tor' overrides LSB defaults (2 3 4 5). |
| 11:22.31 | virtualizado | insserv: warning: current stop runlevel(s) (0 1 2 3 4 5 6) of script `tor' overrides LSB defaults (0 1 6) |
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| 11:22.44 | virtualizado | gave me this message when i stopped tor. is it normal? |
| 11:22.47 | carlos435 | Writing xstart I have got a white page with a little picture of a crying computer. It's written: oh no something is gone wrong. A problem has occured and the system can't recover. All extensions have been disabled as a precaution. And a 'Log out' button |
| 11:23.14 | virtualizado | carlos435: is startx not xstart |
| 11:23.56 | carlos435 | Sure startx |
| 11:24.00 | carlos435 | Sorry |
| 11:24.10 | virtualizado | carlos435: i also came from windows 1 year ago, in beggining i also had to "format" and reinstall several times untill i stop messing up things |
| 11:24.37 | virtualizado | first thing we windows users mess around is changing desktop environments and we always screw up |
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| 11:25.12 | carlos435 | But now ihave lost all? |
| 11:25.31 | virtualizado | well, if you do not have somnething VERY IMPORTANT, i would recommend to just reinstall |
| 11:25.37 | virtualizado | since you have windows |
| 11:25.45 | virtualizado | you probably have all your docs there |
| 11:26.09 | virtualizado | reinstall, reconfig all untill you learn how to do all with your eyes closed |
| 11:26.55 | carlos435 | It recognize my login name password and now I am superuser |
| 11:27.51 | carlos435 | Maybe is something graphical like X to be reinstalled and maybe the desktop environment as well. |
| 11:28.03 | virtualizado | maybe carlos |
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| 11:28.26 | carlos435 | Help me someone pls |
| 11:28.36 | virtualizado | but if you are as noob as me, you messed around with configs and lots of other things |
| 11:28.47 | virtualizado | so if you are to reinstall all graphical things |
| 11:28.49 | carlos435 | Not me |
| 11:28.53 | virtualizado | better reinstall the base system too |
| 11:29.01 | virtualizado | so you will have all better configurated |
| 11:29.22 | virtualizado | unles... you have important things there |
| 11:29.35 | carlos435 | Sure I just wanna recover old stuff in there |
| 11:29.43 | snowshoe239 | Is there a preferred way to format a USB stick? According to this article http://lwn.net/Articles/428584/ all the usual methods are rather archaic in terms of block size, so I was wondering if there was some kind of golden way to format flash media nowadays.. |
| 11:30.19 | virtualizado | carlos if you have root acess... |
| 11:30.30 | virtualizado | copy and paste in yor windows partition |
| 11:30.51 | snowshoe239 | virtualizado: he'd need an ext* driver for that wouldn't he? |
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| 11:31.01 | snowshoe239 | virtualizado: windows can't mount linux partitions by default |
| 11:31.05 | virtualizado | he said he have dual boot |
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| 11:31.19 | virtualizado | and he said he had logged in linux as root |
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| 11:31.49 | snowshoe239 | virtualizado: oh sorry, I thought you were saying to copy it over by using windows |
| 11:31.55 | virtualizado | windows can not see ext4 partitions without some softwares |
| 11:31.57 | carlos435 | Hoe to install gnome desktop full? |
| 11:32.18 | virtualizado | and i did read that some just can read, and none is to trust to write |
| 11:32.21 | carlos435 | I am on a smartphone now |
| 11:32.59 | carlos435 | Apt-get install what? |
| 11:33.11 | jelly-home | !install gnome |
| 11:33.11 | dpkg | To install GNOME: «apt-get install â¦Â» 1. 'task-gnome-desktop' (Debian installer default) 2. 'gnome' (recommended) 3. 'gnome-desktop-environment' (upstream GNOME) 4. 'gnome-core' (like 3, minus end-user applications) 5. 'gnome-session gdm3 network-manager-gnome' (minimalist, not recommended). You will need Xorg installed as well, ask me about <install x>. http://wiki.debian.org/Gnome |
| 11:33.24 | virtualizado | apt-get install gnome |
| 11:33.39 | virtualizado | is the recomended |
| 11:33.41 | redstonecraftpl | !install skype |
| 11:33.49 | redstonecraftpl | yeah |
| 11:34.13 | jelly-home | redstonecraftpl: debian cannot distribute skype, get it from the vendor |
| 11:34.32 | virtualizado | it makes no sense to install SKYPE on linux, since will give microsoft your computer fingerprint, and who knows what skype can do in your computer |
| 11:35.08 | jelly-home | virtualizado: it will also make be able to chat with mom |
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| 11:35.25 | redstonecraftpl | :jelly-home I know, but i have trouble with doing it. i always get dependences that are already installed |
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| 11:35.52 | virtualizado | i install skype in a windows virtualbox guest |
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| 11:35.59 | jelly-home | redstonecraftpl: show your work and how the installation fails, please |
| 11:36.02 | virtualizado | NEVER on your host machine. NEVER |
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| 11:36.20 | jelly-home | !tell redstonecraftpl about basic apt troubleshooting |
| 11:36.36 | virtualizado | get a windowsxp minimal install, i have one that uses 60 MB of memory. then i install skype inside |
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| 11:36.57 | jelly-home | redstonecraftpl: also, https://wiki.debian.org/skype |
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| 11:37.48 | jelly-home | virtualizado: windowsxp licence costs $$$, I trust MS enough not to put immediate malware in their famous product |
| 11:37.59 | redstonecraftpl | http://wklej.org/id/1556551/ Something like that i've got.. |
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| 11:38.26 | jelly-home | !tell redstonecraftpl about localized errors |
| 11:39.04 | virtualizado | jelly, just download any windows xp light edition in your torrent and thats ok, you prefer that YOU uses windows xp without a licence or that THEY use your computer info without YOUR license?? |
| 11:39.29 | virtualizado | they do not even sell anymore |
| 11:39.33 | jelly-home | virtualizado: I'm not going to use illegal software just because someone else might be, sorry |
| 11:40.02 | virtualizado | then use illegal software where the illicitude victim is YOU |
| 11:40.05 | Aenigma | virtualizado: if you want tor running like a server, you probably don't want to have the debian package. if you want to be able to just use it whenever you want, the best bet is to firewall your tor or configure so no-one else can use it. |
| 11:40.41 | Aenigma | virtualizado: if you just want tor browser bundle, you probably want to get that outside the repos |
| 11:40.43 | virtualizado | because you can be SURE that skype WILL spy on all your linux system |
| 11:40.54 | virtualizado | and give backdoor acess |
| 11:41.01 | jelly-home | virtualizado: if I were that paranoid, I'd use Qubes anyway and compartmentalize quite a bit more. |
| 11:41.58 | virtualizado | do not need to be all paranoid dude. just install like mint xfce on a virtual machine if you care SO MUCH for using something they do not sell anymore |
| 11:42.14 | virtualizado | then skype install by itself |
| 11:42.32 | jelly-home | virtualizado: I'm fully aware of the risks, and don't think MS can afford the kind of fiasco if someone found explicit backdoors in their software. |
| 11:42.59 | virtualizado | sorrym jelly, but SINCE THE BEGGINING, microsoft ALREADY afforded that fiasco |
| 11:43.13 | virtualizado | if you do not know that, go read more |
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| 11:43.26 | jelly-home | virtualizado: it's not really a Debian tech support question at this point, let's move this to #debian-offtopic |
| 11:43.30 | redstonecraftpl | http://wklej.org/id/1556557/ |
| 11:43.39 | redstonecraftpl | In english |
| 11:43.52 | virtualizado | and even VIRTUALBOX, if you do not know, oracle CEO says he supports PRISM |
| 11:43.57 | matthias11 | good morning everyone |
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| 11:44.43 | jelly-home | virtualizado: please move this conversation to #debian-offtopic |
| 11:45.04 | virtualizado | yes, is a support question, is an advise not to install skype because it just ruins all your security |
| 11:45.04 | jelly-home | redstonecraftpl: what does "LC_ALL=C apt-get -f install" say after that? |
| 11:45.18 | redstonecraftpl | http://wklej.org/id/1556561/ |
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| 11:46.24 | redstonecraftpl | What about that? |
| 11:46.34 | Aenigma | virtualizado: just stop. you don't need to justify your ideas with politics |
| 11:46.43 | virtualizado | Aenigma: first of all, thanks! no, i do not use tor as a server, just to browser and pidgin. i used torchat but uninstalled because i did read it has no update for more than 2 years |
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| 11:47.01 | thoonai | hey, I'd like to mirror some webpage. I tried "lynx -crawl -traversal" but it put out unusable .dat files. "wget -r -np -nc" works but I really can't use it if I'd like to connect it with a cronjob because -nc just checks if the file exists and not if the new file differs from the old one |
| 11:47.07 | carlos435 | I gave up I will reinstall everything again and I ha recovered stuff in |
| 11:47.24 | Aenigma | virtualizado: i meant, if you don't want tor running like a server |
| 11:47.25 | carlos435 | Debian from ubuntu |
| 11:47.34 | virtualizado | Aenigma: yes |
| 11:47.46 | jelly-home | redstonecraftpl: weird. Follow the basic apt troubleshooting procedure then, show "LC_ALL=C apt-cache policy libqt4-dbus libqt4-network libqt4-xml libqtcore4 libqtgui4 libqtwebkit4 libpulse0 libasound2-plugins" and "LC_ALL=C apt-cache policy" |
| 11:48.18 | jelly-home | redstonecraftpl: also, what does "dpkg --print-architecture" say? |
| 11:48.48 | virtualizado | Aenigma: i installed tor adding a tor repo and a ring, so i believe maybe is because i installed VIDALIA from debian repos? |
| 11:49.19 | redstonecraftpl | jelly-home: print arhitecture shows amd 64, but i added multiarch.. |
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| 11:49.37 | jelly-home | redstonecraftpl: did you apt-get update after adding it? |
| 11:49.50 | redstonecraftpl | yeah, more than one time |
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| 11:50.18 | carlos435 | But my question is: why is it so easy to access to my datas from another partition just mounted it? Should not they be closed each other? No password to get my stuff in debian. Is this normal? |
| 11:50.28 | redstonecraftpl | http://wklej.org/id/1556563/ Apt-cache policy libqt4.... |
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| 11:51.19 | jelly-home | redstonecraftpl: you seem to have packages installed that are newer than what's in wheezy or wheezy-backports |
| 11:51.29 | redstonecraftpl | weird. |
| 11:51.33 | redstonecraftpl | Afk! sry |
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| 11:52.34 | virtualizado | carlos, you should use disk encryption |
| 11:53.11 | jelly-home | carlos435: yes, it's normal. You have administrative privileges on an os, it gives you access to the whole disk anyway |
| 11:53.20 | matthias11 | carlos435: very normal |
| 11:53.40 | matthias11 | normal for any operating system; if you can boot from another disk, you can access (except of course you use encryption) |
| 11:54.16 | carlos435 | Got it. I didn't know |
| 11:55.00 | StarterX4 | Hello, where can I report a bug in Debian GNU/Hurd? Because I found an error in the final communiqué "fsck":https://i.imgur.com/2E72eZn.png (should not be instead of Linux, Hurd?) |
| 11:55.28 | jelly-home | redstonecraftpl: anyway, you'll need to downgrade those to what's available in wheezy. that will let their :i386 counterparts with same version be able to install |
| 11:55.38 | jelly-home | redstonecraftpl: read /msg dpkg partial downgrade |
| 11:56.16 | jelly-home | StarterX4: yes, but it's a purely cosmetic error. |
| 11:56.53 | carlos435 | How some users to hide the ip on a |
| 11:56.54 | jelly-home | !tell StarterX4 about reportbug |
| 11:57.00 | carlos435 | Irc? |
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| 11:58.05 | carlos435 | Sorry. How some users hide their ip on the irc channel letting just see a username? |
| 11:58.54 | jelly-home | carlos435: freenode irc network offers a free cloak for registered users. |
| 11:59.22 | carlos435 | Ok thanks |
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| 11:59.56 | jelly-home | but that can be worked around, the only safe way is to connect to Freenode via Tor |
| 12:00.46 | carlos435 | Ok |
| 12:01.15 | matthias11 | or don't care if others see ones IP |
| 12:01.16 | matthias11 | ;-) |
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| 12:02.07 | jelly-home | carlos435: read about nickname registration on https://freenode.net/using_the_network.shtml (or just /msg nickserv help register); afterwards, ask for unaffiliated cloak in #freenode channel |
| 12:02.14 | carlos435 | I don't care but it's better don't let everyone know your ip |
| 12:02.47 | matthias11 | btw. someone running lightdm and light-locker here? My shutdown problem (hang on shutdown/reboot for at least 10min -- after that I forced shutdown) seems to be related to lightdm or usage of it. If I login as user A, then lock vie light-locker and login as user B, switch back to user A, terminate session, switch back to user B, terminate session, and then order shutdown, it hangs? |
| 12:03.01 | carlos435 | Yes thanks |
| 12:03.18 | matthias11 | well the IP is what you basically tell every server you connect to |
| 12:03.34 | matthias11 | it's quite public anyway |
| 12:04.00 | carlos435 | Yes sure |
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| 12:05.31 | HTH | matthias11, and pretty harmless to know unless you have forward facing services of some sort :p |
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| 12:06.09 | redstonecraftpl | back. |
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| 12:09.29 | matthias11 | HTH: yupp |
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| 12:19.45 | redstonecraftpl | How i can change version of packages that depends on skype? |
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| 12:21.26 | jelly-home | redstonecraftpl: did you read the stuff about downgrading? |
| 12:21.43 | redstonecraftpl | yeah, but this dont works for me |
| 12:21.56 | jelly-home | why not? |
| 12:21.58 | redstonecraftpl | i open aptitude and what i must do? |
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| 12:23.06 | redstonecraftpl | how i can search aptitude |
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| 12:23.45 | jelly-home | redstonecraftpl: / |
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| 12:24.21 | jelly-home | redstonecraftpl: or press ? for help, as it says on top |
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| 12:24.40 | redstonecraftpl | thx :D |
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| 12:43.39 | xreal | Is there a kernel for Wheezy, which supports OverlayFS? It has been released as stable. |
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| 12:45.23 | SynrG | not official, i don't think |
| 12:45.45 | SynrG | if it were enabled in the jessie kernel, there could be a backport, but that doesn't seem to be the case. |
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| 13:06.18 | wheezyPUP | has debian-6 installed on a partition... but there is other stuff on the partition... how can I find the debian install area / root ? |
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| 13:21.57 | brokencycle | hi! |
| 13:22.18 | brokencycle | are there any known problems with bugs.debian.org? |
| 13:22.46 | brokencycle | can't open the page to see what bug reports are open |
| 13:23.37 | brokencycle | or rather, can't access www.debian.org as well, at 130.89.148.14 |
| 13:23.53 | g00se | Better report a bug .. |
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| 13:24.32 | brokencycle | gOOse: if i'm the only one, then rather not. wanted to check whether someone is fiddling with my network, again |
| 13:24.41 | brokencycle | does it work for you? |
| 13:24.51 | babilen | wfm |
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| 13:25.14 | Sendoushi | what keyboards more or less cheap do you know that are cool for dev? |
| 13:25.22 | brokencycle | hmmm |
| 13:25.33 | g00se | wfm |
| 13:25.34 | aswen | hi there, I just ran into bug #770448 (install of libpam-modules-bin hangs forever) |
| 13:25.43 | brokencycle | Sendoushi: i recommend something ergonomic |
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| 13:25.53 | aswen | someone knows a good workarround? |
| 13:25.58 | Sendoushi | never tried an ergonomic one brokencycle |
| 13:26.13 | brokencycle | gOOse, babilen: thank you, so it's my sh*theads of carrier/isp |
| 13:26.15 | brokencycle | again |
| 13:26.18 | Sendoushi | and the ones i've seen are not that cool regarding key spacing and such |
| 13:26.18 | brokencycle | =8-(( |
| 13:26.55 | matthias11 | Sendoushi: best bet is to go into an electronics market which has keyboards on display and type on it a few words/lines |
| 13:27.05 | g00se | Try connecting via tor(!) |
| 13:27.17 | Sendoushi | matthias11: i guesss |
| 13:27.27 | Sendoushi | but there aren't that specialized here |
| 13:27.27 | babilen | aswen: It's fixed, so you shouldn't run into it. Also install apt-listbugs and ask in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
| 13:27.36 | aswen | Sendoushi: allthough I don't like the brand, the sculpt keyboard is great |
| 13:27.38 | Sendoushi | and i would prefer to order online to get better stuff |
| 13:27.38 | matthias11 | I mean you do not need a computer connected or something |
| 13:27.39 | brokencycle | Sendsoushi: i don't understand 'cool', but i do understand the lesser strain on my hands |
| 13:27.58 | matthias11 | Sendoushi: well the old Thinkpad T-series keyboards are quite fine ;-p |
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| 13:28.14 | aswen | babilen: I try to upgrade from wheezy-backports to testing. |
| 13:28.19 | matthias11 | in fact - I love the old MS Natural Keyboard from 2000, but that is my personal preference |
| 13:28.35 | Sendoushi | brokencycle: cool in the sense of good keyboard |
| 13:28.36 | matthias11 | and I think you might prefer others |
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| 13:29.11 | brokencycle | Sendsoushi: KbPC-E works well for me |
| 13:29.13 | Sendoushi | matthias11: i think i know the one you're talking and i never liked that kind |
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| 13:29.54 | Sendoushi | those soft and "squishy" letters. i always get them wrong ehehe. i think i prefer island like |
| 13:30.11 | Sendoushi | i kind like of apple ones but maybe that's because i never tried better ones |
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| 13:31.37 | Sendoushi | anyone tried that "code" one? |
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| 13:32.39 | akof | didn't the debian-life project once have its own channgel? |
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| 13:35.13 | wheezyPUP | brokencycle worked right away for me... your net must be broken |
| 13:36.27 | brokencycle | wheezyPUP |
| 13:36.40 | brokencycle | thanks - it looks like my "ISP" is tuning his AOL |
| 13:36.49 | wheezyPUP | lol |
| 13:36.49 | brokencycle | (what they call "Internet") |
| 13:37.20 | brokencycle | at this point, feels worse than in China |
| 13:38.11 | g00se | You can't access when you use just the IP address? |
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| 13:40.53 | phibedy | Hi, does I am using debian 7.7, does someone know where to change the i2c clock speed? I cant find it anywhere |
| 13:41.11 | phibedy | *replace("does","") |
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| 13:41.56 | wheezyPUP | what is debian 7.7 ? that may be the problem... didnt know there was one |
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| 13:42.37 | wheezyPUP | oh... new Squeeze ? |
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| 13:43.22 | phibedy | it says 7.7 in debian_version file |
| 13:43.54 | wheezyPUP | right... my mistake... latest it is |
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| 13:44.59 | phibedy | any idea how I can find the .c/whatever file, that declares the clock rate? |
| 13:45.08 | babilen | aswen: Looks as if you'd have to pull packages from unstable. See <jum> -- /msg dpkg jum. You want, in particular, dpkg 1.17.22 from there (for this particular problem) -- If you track testing (well, jessie in this case) you will want to be able to pull packages from unstable if necessary (bug fixes, security upgrades, ...) |
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| 13:45.47 | wheezyPUP | phibedy are you trying to overclock ? |
| 13:46.03 | phibedy | no, I would like to go for 400 kHz not 100 kHz |
| 13:46.45 | aswen | babilen: I just tried downloading dpkg 1.17.22 and install that (with dpkg) but that failed |
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| 13:47.19 | wheezyPUP | aswen would a simple update work ? |
| 13:47.57 | aswen | it was a dependency problem (now I had libpam-modules-bin on hold |
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| 13:48.09 | aswen | ) |
| 13:48.46 | aswen | I don't understand what you say about <jum> /msg dpkg jum BTW |
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| 13:49.48 | babilen | aswen: You would want to pull it from unstable. See <jsm> for a suitable setup, then upgrade dpkg (and apt) first before the rest. |
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| 13:50.27 | babilen | aswen: Oh, "/msg dpkg jum" will send a message to out bot dpkg and it will then tell you about the <jum> (jessie unstable mix) factoid |
| 13:50.33 | babilen | dpkg: jum |
| 13:50.33 | dpkg | «echo 'APT::Default-Release "jessie";' >> /etc/apt/apt.conf», edit sources.list, copy your non-security jessie lines and change one set to sid, then apt-get update. apt-get -t sid install foo; to install foo from sid rather than jessie as usual. WARNING to SYNAPTIC users: Synaptic ignores Default-Release: set Preferences->Distribution. See <jum caveat> and use this setup to track <jessie> after its release. |
| 13:50.36 | babilen | ^^^ |
| 13:50.45 | phibedy | wheezyup: i2c - read(buf,file,1) takes 3 to 6 ms |
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| 13:51.25 | babilen | aswen: But I wanted you to do that in a private message so that we don't unnecessarily flood the channel. It's also nice if I want to make other references later. |
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| 13:51.47 | aswen | babilen: thanx, now I understand ;-) |
| 13:51.54 | aswen | didn't receive the pm |
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| 13:53.08 | babilen | aswen: I never sent you one (nor asked the bot to do it) -- It is something *you* could have done by entering the "/msg dpkg jum" command into your IRC client :) |
| 13:53.19 | aswen | aha |
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| 13:53.52 | babilen | Try it with <jum caveat> |
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| 13:55.01 | aswen | ok, I have to add sid sources and try to install dpkg. |
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| 13:56.44 | babilen | Indeed, but don't forget to set the default release (and verify that it worked in "apt-cache policy"). Also note that you are about to track a development release of Debian and I would also strongly recommend to read the <sid faq> and install <apt-listbugs> |
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| 13:58.48 | CheckDavid | Hello. I booted a Debian live USB from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/ . Supposedly it would let me connect to WiFi, but still no option to do so. :/ |
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| 13:59.27 | mtn | CheckDavid: which wifi card/chip? do you look at the proper debian wiki article for it? |
| 13:59.36 | aswen | babilen: via a chain everything depends upon libpam-modules-bin ;-( |
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| 14:01.13 | babilen | aswen: Why is that a problem? Just pull in dpkg from unstable (and its dependencies) and take it from there. |
| 14:01.39 | CheckDavid | mtn: im not sure. I was recommended I just download an image from there. Can you suggest me the right way? I should see my current model right? |
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| 14:01.56 | CheckDavid | Of WiFi card. Which I don't happen to know |
| 14:02.01 | mtn | CheckDavid: I would suggest you start with the debian wifi wiki article |
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| 14:03.21 | babilen | aswen: i.e. "apt-get -t sid install dpkg" or "aptitude -t sid install dpkg" |
| 14:03.31 | babilen | (whatever comes up with better solutions) |
| 14:04.10 | aswen | babilen: I downloaded the package as file from sid, tried to install it with dpkg -i dpkg_1.17.22_amd64.deb |
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| 14:04.24 | aswen | and also tried to do with dpkg -t sid etc |
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| 14:04.44 | aswen | both fail because my upgrade failed and dpkg depends upon fontconfig |
| 14:05.09 | babilen | dpkg: tell aswen -about bat |
| 14:05.12 | aswen | sorry, i say it wrong, |
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| 14:05.27 | babilen | aswen: And you probably want to take it to #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
| 14:05.32 | aswen | dpkg breaks fontconfig |
| 14:05.32 | dpkg | aswen: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
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| 14:05.41 | aswen | hahah |
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| 14:05.56 | babilen | I'll be back later, all the best! |
| 14:05.57 | CheckDavid | Thanks mtn |
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| 14:06.04 | aswen | thanks babilen |
| 14:06.22 | mtn | CheckDavid: welcome |
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| 14:25.42 | phibedy | Does someone know where the i2c bus frequency and delay in the current version (7.7). Where should start searching in the src? |
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| 14:25.57 | phibedy | *is |
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| 14:29.38 | hramrach_ | how do I tell what partitioning scheme a disk uses? |
| 14:29.57 | Brigo | hramrach_, fdisk -l ? |
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| 14:33.00 | hramrach_ | Brigo: does fdisk support all partitioning schemes Linux understands? |
| 14:33.21 | hramrach_ | ok, I made an educated guess this time |
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| 14:33.23 | hramrach_ | # file -s /dev/mmcblk0 |
| 14:33.26 | hramrach_ | /dev/mmcblk0: ; partition 1 : ID=0xee, start-CHS (0x0,0,2), end-CHS (0x3fc,125,10), startsector 1, 15564799 sectors, extended partition table (last)\01 |
| 14:33.59 | hramrach_ | # gdisk /dev/mmcblk0 |
| 14:34.08 | Brigo | hramrach_, please do not paste here more than 2 lines -or chanserv bot will kick you. Use paste.debian.net |
| 14:34.08 | hramrach_ | ... GPT: present |
| 14:34.49 | hramrach_ | but if I had some more exotic partition scheme file might not help |
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| 14:35.27 | hramrach_ | and the alone that Linux can access the filesystem does not tell me what partition scheme I have and what tool to use |
| 14:35.31 | Brigo | gdisk support gtp. |
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| 14:36.11 | hramrach_ | yes, that's why I installed it seeing the ID=0xee part |
| 14:36.48 | hramrach_ | because file interprets the protective mbr you can see that you have gpt from its output |
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| 14:37.22 | hramrach_ | but Linux supports like dozen partitioning schemes |
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| 14:37.47 | hramrach_ | I don't even know what half of them are |
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| 14:48.30 | sgo11 | hi, I have many problems with my nvidia driver. after installing nvidia driver, my vga is no longer rotatable. this is a laptop which has both intel and nvidia card. vga was rotatable with intel driver. any ideas? |
| 14:49.02 | hramrach_ | the nVidia proprietary driver? |
| 14:49.08 | sgo11 | hramrach_, yeah. |
| 14:49.14 | hramrach_ | that's normal |
| 14:49.31 | sgo11 | hramrach_, ok. so how can I make my vga rotatble again? thanks. |
| 14:49.44 | hramrach_ | uninstall the driver |
| 14:49.54 | sgo11 | ...... |
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| 14:50.34 | hramrach_ | there is a proprietary tool for screen configuration that comes with the driver which might or might not work |
| 14:50.36 | sgo11 | I was using intel driver. it works fine with one builtin monitor. but when I use three monitors, it becomes very slow. that's why I install nvidia driver. |
| 14:51.02 | sgo11 | hramrach_, yeah, that is nvidia-settings. it does not work at all. worse than xrandr in optimus card. |
| 14:51.30 | sgo11 | nvidia-settings even can not detect vga. |
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| 14:52.04 | hramrach_ | why cannot you run nVidia card with nouveau driver? |
| 14:52.12 | sgo11 | nvidia-settings problem is another problem. found by google: http://askubuntu.com/questions/515994/nvidia-x-server-settings-only-shows-1-screen-laptop-external-monitor-connecte |
| 14:52.13 | hramrach_ | it supports screen rotation |
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| 14:53.49 | sgo11 | is nouveau driver better? I think most of nvidia user are using proprietary driver. |
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| 14:54.09 | hramrach_ | for screen rotation definitely |
| 14:54.35 | hazard | Some time in the last few days, my iceweasel started rejecting the flash plugin. Anyone happen to know why, or what I'm supposed to do about it? |
| 14:54.46 | hramrach_ | but the outputs might be wired to the intel card so using them with the nVidia cadr might be quite challenging |
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| 14:55.56 | sgo11 | hramrach_, hm.... my UGA (usb graphic adapter) disappeared in xrandr -q after installing nvidia driver. that is another problem. but intel card can not handle three monitors well. |
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| 14:57.33 | hramrach_ | If you have problem with nVidia proprietary driver complain to nVidia. only nVidia can fix it |
| 14:57.42 | hazard | The mozilla plugin checker finally worked, and says my Shockwave is up to date, but any page I go to with flash on it, Iceweasel blocks because flash is outdated. |
| 14:58.24 | hramrach_ | hazard: it *is* outdated. Adobe does nit support flash on Linux |
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| 14:58.36 | mtn | hazard: you should be able to click on the flash video and be allowed to allow it to run. that is what I saw. you can also use chromium and pepperflash, which is a newer version of flash |
| 14:58.37 | sgo11 | hramrach_, ok. thanks. let me see.... |
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| 14:59.28 | hazard | mtn: I did do the allow, but I would prefer to find a better method. I did try out Chromium, but wasn't liking it so far. Thanks anyway. |
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| 15:00.34 | hramrach_ | yes, there should ideally be a way to allow it permanently |
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| 15:01.56 | hramrach_ | the query is missing 'never ask again' checkbox ;-) |
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| 15:06.31 | superrorc | hello guys! |
| 15:06.57 | superrorc | have a shelshock on my friends QNAP )) |
| 15:07.17 | superrorc | https://pp.vk.me/c624125/v624125668/1065c/9-sTqv59KAA.jpg |
| 15:07.20 | superrorc | this) |
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| 15:08.11 | superrorc | any ideas to have fun? ) |
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| 15:09.56 | nkuttler | superrorc: inform him to fix his stuff |
| 15:10.18 | superrorc | ofc, after i have fun |
| 15:10.44 | nkuttler | superrorc: having "fun" with that is off-topic here, and probably illegal |
| 15:10.56 | superrorc | sor |
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| 15:14.35 | akof | am I seeing correctly that squeeze's meantime between freeze and release is 4 months while that of wheezy was 11 months? |
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| 15:15.36 | Agiofws | hello |
| 15:15.53 | Agiofws | can someone help me with a hardware problem? |
| 15:16.39 | Agiofws | is there a hardware related channel my laptop is dieing? |
| 15:16.54 | jelly-home | akof: I don't remember squeeze freeze being that short |
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| 15:22.51 | phre4k | which package would you use for WoL? Is there one which reads /etc/ethers correctly= |
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| 15:28.03 | akof | jelly-home: wiki.debian.org/DebianSqueeze |
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| 15:29.05 | akof | jelly-home: that's what's wondering me, too. Freeze is said to have been frozen on 2010-08-06 and release on 2011-02-06 |
| 15:29.35 | jelly-home | akof: that'd be exactly 6 months |
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| 15:32.38 | akof | jelly-home: oh, right. A year contains 12 months and not 10... |
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| 15:33.31 | jelly-home | silly humans and their base 12 thinking |
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| 15:34.29 | pppd | hi |
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| 15:34.57 | pppd | So I ensured the right pgp(gpg, they abbreviate it different) key is installed and the changes file is signed and uploaded to repository. |
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| 15:35.11 | pppd | WARNING: The following packages cannot be authenticated! |
| 15:35.30 | pppd | Can I somehow find out _why_ apt doesn't trust the package? |
| 15:35.37 | pppd | I need to know more for debugging the issue. |
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| 15:35.44 | pppd | Is it a key mismatch? |
| 15:35.49 | pppd | cached package? |
| 15:35.52 | pppd | something other strange? |
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| 15:54.00 | smhar | greetings |
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| 15:58.59 | smhar | I am intrested in trying the newly relased Andriod Studio. what is the best way to install it safely? The first way I would think of is a virtual client ... but is there a simpler way that is lighter and easier on resources? somesort of a jail system? |
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| 16:01.50 | dontknow | does anyone know how to power off bluetooth without rfkill to powersave? because rfkill only works when kernel has apropriate firmware. |
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| 16:03.45 | smhar | I am currently using debian testing |
| 16:04.12 | Jonuz | Any ideas which causes this? http://paste.debian.net/136418/ |
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| 16:06.13 | dontknow | i don't want to install non free firmware to disable bluetooth |
| 16:08.49 | dontknow | i am usually asking questions that has no answer |
| 16:09.05 | dontknow | i guess |
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| 16:11.01 | somiaj | dontknow: you want to just disable bluetooth? Why do you thik you'll have to install non-free software for this? |
| 16:11.34 | somiaj | remove the module, turn it off int he bios? |
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| 16:11.51 | Jonuz | too much C |
| 16:12.11 | dontknow | somiaj, because rfkill doesn't even show it. and it is bundled with wifi |
| 16:12.40 | dontknow | and there is no bios option |
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| 16:15.39 | dontknow | ican see it in rfkill list with newer kernels tough |
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| 17:07.36 | addaitech | has anyone had any luck with icinga for server monitoring? I keep getting request failed, internal exception, yet the logs show nothing relevant. |
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| 17:12.53 | jhutchins | addaitech: What did you try to do? How did you try to do it? What did you expect to happen? What happened instead? |
| 17:14.10 | addaitech | i'm re-installing it now from github, i was trying the one from sid repos first, let me see if i have any better luck with a newer version |
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| 17:15.22 | jhutchins | addaitech: How do you expect us to know what's going on with something you pulled from github? |
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| 17:15.30 | jhutchins | addaitech: The nagios packages in stable work just fine. |
| 17:15.45 | addaitech | i didnt ask for help with anything from github |
| 17:15.54 | addaitech | i just said im using a github version now |
| 17:16.02 | addaitech | ill ask them for help with that |
| 17:16.11 | jhutchins | addaitech: If it's from sid, well yeah, internal exceptions are expected - it's proto-testing. |
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| 17:17.20 | sgo11 | hi, http://hastebin.com/aleqacavif.vbs in xrandr output, my "Screen 0" width is incorrect. it should be 3000 (1920 + 1080) instead of 3840 (1920*2) because I rotate VGA1 left. how to fix the Screen 0 width value? thanks. |
| 17:17.30 | jhutchins | addaitech: You have multiple layers with icinga, the web server, the internal monitoring scripts, the external client. |
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| 17:17.53 | jhutchins | addaitech: Just saying you're getting an internal exception without saying where gives us nothing to go on. |
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| 17:24.46 | Godskalk | usb is unstable on linux. |
| 17:26.07 | towo` | aha |
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| 17:26.24 | xreal | Where do I put preseed.cfg? To the root of the ISO ? |
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| 17:30.26 | addaitech | jhutchins: i got it working now, the errors were popups when i first logged into the web interface |
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| 17:38.50 | xreal | Where do I put preseed.cfg? To the root of the ISO ? |
| 17:39.24 | daemonkeeper | https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed |
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| 17:40.08 | xreal | oh god... linux is soo complicated. |
| 17:40.37 | pingfloyd | xreal: it requires understanding computers a little |
| 17:40.37 | xreal | thanks for help |
| 17:40.49 | xreal | pingfloyd: nah... it's just a linux problem. |
| 17:40.49 | daemonkeeper | I don't think that's particularly complicated. |
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| 17:40.59 | nicko88 | so I have an SSD in my system and it has 2 partitions. A BTRFS and an EXT4. I run fstrim on both, but the BTRFS partition is always 0 bytes trimmed while the EXT4 one always reports some bytes were trimed. Any ideas why BTRFS is always 0? |
| 17:40.59 | xreal | pingfloyd: more modern OS, like Windows, can do it in root. |
| 17:41.04 | xreal | but thanks for help |
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| 17:41.31 | centrx | what a futuristic modern sailor |
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| 17:44.27 | teraflops | I dont think pressed is compicated if you compare to e.g WDS/RIS |
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| 18:02.37 | xreal | Why doesn't this work? "auto URL=http://pastie.org/pastes/9778440/text" - it says, the file is corrupt :( |
| 18:03.00 | jhutchins | xreal: I believe the preseed file can go pretty much anywhere, including on a remote webserver. That's how kickstarts are usually done. |
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| 18:03.17 | xreal | jhutchins: yeah, I've put it to pastie.rg |
| 18:03.23 | xreal | but seems like it can't read from there. |
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| 18:05.19 | jhutchins | xreal: It sounds like it might not be correctly formatted. Did you create it in windows? |
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| 18:06.05 | xreal | jhutchins: ah true, linux can't parse \r\n |
| 18:06.16 | xreal | jhutchins: but maybe pastie.org smashes it |
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| 18:08.06 | jhutchins | xreal: Looks ok in a browser but it's hard to tell. |
| 18:08.23 | jhutchins | xreal: You can put it in the iso image if you remaster it. |
| 18:08.38 | xreal | jhutchins: I don't want to remasted the .gz all the time, since I want to play with preseed. |
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| 18:08.57 | xreal | jhutchins: remaster* |
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| 18:15.40 | abcd593 | Hi, I've just extended my root LV with lvextend /dev/vg0/root /dev/sdb ; lvs shows the right size (together with /dev/sdb), bud df -h shows the old size (even after rebooting). why? (what I did to /dev/sdb was: pvcreate /dev/sdb ; vgextend vg0 /dev/sdb ) |
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| 18:17.08 | xreal | jhutchins: oh my... pastie doesn't use raw display! |
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| 18:17.11 | xreal | that's the problem |
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| 18:29.22 | rohanrhu | hi |
| 18:29.50 | rohanrhu | im using dovecot and postfix |
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| 18:30.12 | rohanrhu | how can i create mail account for each domain as seperetaly? |
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| 18:30.35 | rohanrhu | like name@domain1.com, name@domain2.com |
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| 18:33.25 | jhutchins | rohanrhu: https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-configure-a-mail-server-using-postfix-dovecot-mysql-and-spamassasin |
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| 18:33.50 | rohanrhu | jhutchins: digitalocean is the best :D |
| 18:33.55 | rohanrhu | jhutchins: thank you verh much |
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| 18:34.13 | jhutchins | rohanrhu: http://www.stefan-seelmann.de/wiki/mailserver-postfix-dovecot |
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| 18:43.28 | boodie | Hi; I have just updated 28 packages with aptitude, and the flash videos on youtube don't work anymore ... any ideas? |
| 18:43.37 | HZun | where are the 256 colors for 256 color xterm specified? I know that 16 of the colors are specified in Xresources, but i cant find the location for the rest... ? |
| 18:45.02 | boodie | It says that iceweasel blocked the execution of old and unsecure shockwave flash videos on youtube ... |
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| 18:47.00 | teraflops | boodie: I thought it just warns |
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| 18:47.37 | Alex-Music | hay people, I need a help |
| 18:47.56 | boodie | Well, I have unabled it, and it works ... what was the point of the warning? |
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| 18:48.24 | Alex-Music | after I updated all packages, when I reboot, X won't start |
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| 18:49.22 | doev | Does someone know a way to use a remote screen as additional desktop for a xserver? Something like TwinView but the second screen is not connected to the same host. |
| 18:49.45 | doev | In past I saw this tool, but can't remember the name. |
| 18:49.47 | Alex-Music | I have to use ctrl+alt+f1 and login only in text mode |
| 18:49.54 | Alex-Music | graphic don't up |
| 18:50.20 | Alex-Music | Itz some package or driver conflict? |
| 18:51.27 | Alex-Music | I'm using irssi, because I'm without graphic |
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| 18:53.23 | Alex-Music | nobody? |
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| 18:54.45 | qu1nn | Coming from opensuse trying Debian wheezy, KDE, network manager widget: problem cannot connect to my workplace vpn. KDE control module error "...did not receive reply ...possible include the remote application did not send a reply, the message bus security policy blocked the reply, the reply timeout expired or the network connection was broken. |
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| 18:55.07 | qu1nn | The user has ROOT rights. I have an active internet connection (can surf), |
| 18:55.15 | qu1nn | I used another laptop and I am successful in gaining access to the workplace vpn. |
| 18:55.16 | qu1nn | I am unsure on how to troubleshoot, suggestions? |
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| 18:55.57 | kristijonas | hello, I have just upgraded distro from wheezy to sid, as I understood wheezy didn't have flightgear package. But it still doesn't allow me to install flightgear package because of unmet dipendencies. |
| 18:56.39 | centrx | kristijonas, How did you perform this upgrade? |
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| 18:57.31 | irssi__ | kristijonas: Did you execute "aptitude update"? |
| 18:57.39 | kristijonas | centrx, as explained here: http://cookbooks.consinergia.es/index.php/Upgrade_from_Debian_Wheezy_to_Sid |
| 18:57.41 | centrx | Alex-Musicman, How did this start? Is this after a fresh installation? Are you using next-release/jessie/testing/unstable? |
| 18:57.52 | ompaul | qu1nn: you could start with what kind of vpn you are using, which version of vpn software you are using |
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| 18:58.59 | qu1nn | it is a workplace vpn, the software was built into debian-wheezy-kde variant - network manager |
| 18:59.05 | kristijonas | irssi__, apt-get update. yes, several times. |
| 18:59.11 | centrx | kristijonas, Can you paste your apt-cache policy (at paste.debian.net) |
| 18:59.15 | ompaul | qu1nn: that is not a vpn type |
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| 18:59.39 | qu1nn | pptp |
| 18:59.48 | irssi__ | Good evening, I try to make the qos simple way under debian. I would like a function "qos -u PID --priority N". I look and I fall on trickle but it does not suit me (single limitation, no qos). If someone how to do that :) Thanks |
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| 19:01.02 | kristijonas | centrx, http://paste.debian.net/136444/ |
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| 19:01.19 | ompaul | qu1nn: do it on the command line http://www.howtogeek.com/51237/setting-up-a-vpn-pptp-server-on-debian/ http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~owend/free/pptp-debian.html |
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| 19:04.28 | Alex-Musicman | centrx: just after update manager, I did Debian upgrade all packages, but when I reboot the system, I've no graphic |
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| 19:05.24 | centrx | kristijonas, and apt-get install flightgear gives what error message? |
| 19:05.24 | Alex-Musicman | I ever weekly do upgrades... but in this time, the X don't start |
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| 19:06.28 | kristijonas | centrx, http://paste.debian.net/136447/ |
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| 19:06.43 | centrx | Alex-Musicman, Is there any information in the error logs for X? |
| 19:07.02 | centrx | Alex-Musicman, Can you make sure your graphics driver packages are up to date? Are you running stable distribution or...? |
| 19:07.05 | qu1nn | ompaul: will try, should state that the laptop that I am using also has debian, same version... working fine. |
| 19:07.31 | ompaul | qu1nn: then you should copy configs |
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| 19:08.37 | centrx | kristijonas, It looks like you may have an incomplete upgrade |
| 19:08.50 | centrx | kristijonas, Use aptitude to work through resolving conflicts |
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| 19:09.31 | Alex-Musicman | I'm using Debian 7 Wheezy and AMD R7 250 driver from amd website |
| 19:09.38 | kristijonas | centrx, how to use aptitude? and can I try to upgrade again? |
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| 19:10.03 | Alex-Musicman | I tried to start from older kernel, but no success.. |
| 19:10.03 | centrx | Alex-Musicman, Try the VESA driver, that should at least get you up and running in X |
| 19:10.29 | centrx | Alex-Musicman, Then you might need to upgrade the graphics driver you have (or switch to the xorg-xserver-video-radeon driver or fglrx both in the Debian repository) |
| 19:10.59 | centrx | kristijonas, You can run apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 19:11.00 | Alex-Musicman | how I can use the vesa? |
| 19:11.04 | centrx | kristijonas, It probably won't do anything if you ran that before |
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| 19:11.25 | Alex-Musicman | have some command to generate the xorg vesa? |
| 19:11.36 | centrx | kristijonas, aptitude is a program you can run, you can also use synaptic or dselect. they are all front-ends for apt that allow you to select which packages you want to install/uninstall |
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| 19:12.55 | kristijonas | centrx, i'm on aptitude, so i should try to install every dependency that have been unmet manually? |
| 19:12.56 | woshty | Is there a ssd that supports biospw/hdparm based encryption other than samsung 840? |
| 19:13.29 | centrx | Alex-Musicman, I think you can just edit xorg.conf if it exists, changing the "Driver" under "Device" |
| 19:14.02 | Alex-Musicman | k.. |
| 19:14.05 | centrx | Alex-Musicman, I don't know otherwise. You can uninstall the AMD driver from the AMD website, and then install the AMD driver the Debian way, with https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo or https://wiki.debian.org/ATIProprietary |
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| 19:14.29 | Node_032 | Is it fine to unplug USB memory after the installation has been loaded in? |
| 19:14.29 | centrx | kristijonas, I actually don't use aptitude, I use dselect, but aptitude is the standard now that's supposedly more easy to use |
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| 19:15.15 | centrx | kristijonas, but the basic idea is that aptitude presents a list of installable packages, and then it provides a way for you to choose what to install/uninstall when it can't figure it out automatically (as apt-get dist-upgrade tried to do) |
| 19:15.16 | Alex-Musicman | well.. I'm using irssi in my console... hehe.. I'll try vesa and after upgrade ATI driver |
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| 19:16.10 | centrx | woshty, Try ##hardware and/or ##linux |
| 19:16.40 | kristijonas | centrix, i see 'upgradable packages (532).' |
| 19:17.04 | centrx | kristijonas, Yeah upgrade everything |
| 19:17.39 | kristijonas | centrix, just don't know how to do it. should I click ENTER or something? |
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| 19:18.10 | Alex-Musicman | brb |
| 19:18.12 | centrx | kristijonas, try it yes |
| 19:18.53 | centrx | kristijonas, It will complain if you unintentionally try to uninstall anything super-important |
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| 19:19.26 | centrx | kristijonas, But you want to check the list of packages being UNinstalled to just make sure there's nothing important for a desktop user like xserver-xorg or gnome or something |
| 19:19.33 | kristijonas | centrx, i'll probably try command line instead |
| 19:19.47 | CheckDavid_ | How do I check my wifi device, and then get debian to work with it? |
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| 19:20.30 | centrx | CheckDavid_, lspci will show you a list of devices on your machine, one of them should be your wireless card |
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| 19:20.44 | xreal | Is it possible to "burn" the preseed URL to the ISO ? |
| 19:20.44 | kristijonas | centrx, aptitude update & aptitude full-upgrade |
| 19:21.08 | centrx | CheckDavid_, (Make sure to distinguish it from any landline Ethernet devices you might, both are Network controllers) |
| 19:21.14 | CheckDavid_ | centrx: is there a way to check it on windows just to avoid booing back and fort? |
| 19:21.15 | centrx | kristijonas, ok |
| 19:21.34 | centrx | CheckDavid_, Yeah System Control Panel Devices or something |
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| 19:22.26 | centrx | I haven't used Windows > 7 |
| 19:22.46 | centrx | except for 95 and 98, both of those numbers are greater than 7 |
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| 19:24.52 | eurobit | i'll bet 2k is > 7 too |
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| 19:28.19 | qu1nn | ompaul: also I am not trying to be a server, just a client connecting to the server. pptp-linux and networkmanager-pptp are installed on both systems. is there a special logfile that exists that may help troubleshoot? |
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| 19:30.56 | ompaul | qu1nn: if your logging is good check in /var/log/ and check syslog and check for a specific file for pptp I don't use networkmanager for the reason that it hides things on me |
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| 19:39.22 | Lambertini | hey any help-me with ffserver ? |
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| 19:40.14 | CheckDavid_ | centrx: im on windows 8.1 |
| 19:40.19 | CheckDavid_ | I will ask on windows |
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| 19:44.54 | Lambertini | can anyone help me with ffserver, I have the following problem TCP connection to localhost: 8090 failed: Connection refused |
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| 19:46.32 | CheckDavid_ | centrx: I think mine is intel dual band wireless-ac 3160 |
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| 19:46.47 | CheckDavid_ | I wonder why I didn't manage to get it to work on my debian |
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| 19:47.35 | centrx | CheckDavid_, https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi |
| 19:48.21 | CheckDavid_ | centrx: I am not sure what to do on that page to be honest, I was there a while ago. |
| 19:48.45 | CheckDavid_ | My card is not listed in there apparently.. |
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| 19:50.24 | centrx | CheckDavid_, Looks like you need the package firmware-iwlwifi from wheezy-backports |
| 19:50.30 | centrx | !backports |
| 19:50.30 | dpkg | A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
| 19:50.42 | centrx | !wheezy-backports |
| 19:50.42 | dpkg | Selected packages intended for the "Jessie" (8.0) release of Debian but recompiled for use with "Wheezy" (7.x) can be found in the "wheezy-backports" repository. Note that wheezy-backports are on the regular mirror network, not on backports.debian.org. A suitable line for your sources.list is «deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy-backports main». Also ask me about <bdo>. |
| 19:51.05 | centrx | CheckDavid_, You can download it on Windows from here: https://packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/firmware-iwlwifi |
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| 19:51.18 | centrx | at the bottom of the page |
| 19:51.22 | mrdeb | hi |
| 19:51.25 | CheckDavid_ | centrx: in practical terms what is it? Is it a .deb file? |
| 19:51.29 | centrx | Yes |
| 19:51.30 | mrdeb | is gnome search fixed in iso yet |
| 19:51.36 | mrdeb | in 7.7 |
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| 19:52.42 | CheckDavid_ | centrx: so, can I just put this on my debian live usb ? And then just execute it from there? =) |
| 19:52.57 | CheckDavid_ | But why didn't my debian + non-free firmware work? |
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| 19:53.17 | centrx | It's a newer version of it that isn't in Debian stable |
| 19:53.28 | CheckDavid_ | oh I see. |
| 19:53.29 | centrx | There may be a live CD with backports on it such as this one for your hardware |
| 19:54.07 | CheckDavid_ | Can I easily access windows directories when I boot on debian? |
| 19:54.15 | centrx | Yes |
| 19:54.17 | CheckDavid_ | I remember I used to do that easily on puppy, but don't think I ever did on debian. |
| 19:54.29 | CheckDavid_ | I see, ok, then I guess I will boot from my debian. |
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| 19:55.04 | centrx | You would mount your Windows partition like: mount -t ntfs /dev/sda2 /mnt/windows |
| 19:55.23 | centrx | CheckDavid_, The Live CD might do this automatically or something I don't know |
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| 19:55.58 | CheckDavid_ | Oh. Can I just drag and drop the .deb to my usb then? |
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| 19:57.15 | centrx | I think the Live CD doesn't keep any configuration changes, you either can't install the .deb file on it, or it doesn't persist after a reboot |
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| 19:59.22 | CheckDavid_ | Oh, How do I make it persistent ? |
| 19:59.41 | centrx | Install Debian on your hard drive |
| 19:59.52 | toeshred | These are AMAZING! Is there any chance Debian will adopt these for the Jessie release?? https://wiki.debian.org/DebianArt/Themes/Lines |
| 20:00.00 | centrx | You can also try to find a Live CD that already includes the firmware-iwlwifi backport |
| 20:00.16 | pppd | Debian repository package pools, what exactly is this? And how can it be used? |
| 20:00.23 | pppd | For preserving space through some deduplication? |
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| 20:02.11 | centrx | !package pool |
| 20:02.12 | dpkg | methinks pool is http://lists.debian.org/debian-project/1999/10/msg00052.html (proposal) and http://www.debian.org/doc/FAQ/ch-ftparchives#s-pools |
| 20:02.16 | CheckDavid_ | centrx: but I thought it was possible to make a persistent live usb setup. |
| 20:02.31 | CheckDavid_ | centrx: I don't want to mess with the disks. I had too much headache with that. |
| 20:02.34 | centrx | CheckDavid_, Maybe, I don't know it |
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| 20:02.49 | centrx | *about it |
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| 20:02.57 | qu1nn | I have installed debian on several different laptops. I have a desktop that I am switching over from opensuse 12.1 to debian 7. In general it is acting funky. May just try to re-install But get this .... using the pc directly if I launch any application , say kde dolphin there is a 2 min stall while it launches.......but if I use x2go and tunnel in there is absolutely no lag.... WTF? I dont see anything in the log files, |
| 20:02.58 | qu1nn | suggestions? |
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| 20:07.28 | CheckDavid | What https://i.imgur.com/yAGlMYC.jpg is this? |
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| 20:08.31 | centrx | CheckDavid, What it says |
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| 20:09.16 | CheckDavid | Why can't I mount the disk? It tells me windows is hibernated but I just shut it down centrx |
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| 20:09.50 | eurobit | qu1nn: strace both ways you start it and see what is different |
| 20:10.14 | centrx | CheckDavid, I don't know, maybe Windows "Shutdown" is really Hibernate now |
| 20:10.27 | CheckDavid | Oh. Maybe. |
| 20:10.35 | centrx | CheckDavid, The message also gives two other options: mount read-only, or use the remove_hiberfile option |
| 20:11.18 | CheckDavid | Oh thanks centrx |
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| 20:11.53 | CheckDavid | Does hibernate mean it is consuming energy? |
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| 20:12.24 | Epakai | hibernate is a full shutdown, memory is written to disk |
| 20:12.35 | CheckDavid | Oh I see. |
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| 20:12.40 | CheckDavid | Weird |
| 20:13.00 | CheckDavid | My machine is not hibernating |
| 20:14.00 | Epakai | do you have enough swap space to store your memory? |
| 20:14.42 | CheckDavid | Swap space? Not sure |
| 20:15.51 | Epakai | what's happening when you try to hibernate? does the machine shutdown, but not restore to the same state? |
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| 20:18.28 | CheckDavid | Epakai: no idea. I'm not trying to hibernate. Please note that. |
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| 20:18.51 | CheckDavid | I was affirming that I believe it is not hibernating when.I shut it down. |
| 20:19.24 | CheckDavid | Because when I turn my windows back on it doesn't restore from memory the previous session |
| 20:19.57 | CheckDavid | centrx: I installed it. Now what? Still no access |
| 20:20.14 | poeticrpm | CheckDavid, you try doing as it suggests and see if that fixes the problem? Maybe it put a file there and didnt delete it? I know nothing of windows so its a guess |
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| 20:21.13 | CheckDavid | poeticrpm: I did. It let me.mount the disk :) |
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| 20:21.36 | poeticrpm | cool, hopefully the problem doesnt come back |
| 20:21.38 | CheckDavid | But my current issue is connecting to wifi |
| 20:22.17 | CheckDavid | poeticrpm: looks like the thing that will always come back :p |
| 20:22.28 | CheckDavid | and I will have to run the command every time. |
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| 20:22.43 | paul_grozav | hello, can I use libvirtd and run VMs through qemu, without having a KVM compatible processor ? |
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| 20:24.02 | poeticrpm | CheckDavid, strange- does it come back everytime you remount or every time you use Windows? If its the former you could setup a dirty systemd service to mount that partition with removing the hiberfile on boot and then unmount again (unless you want it to stay mounted) |
| 20:24.16 | poeticrpm | latter, not former* |
| 20:25.30 | paul_grozav | anyone? :) |
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| 20:33.28 | redstonecraftpl | Any good program for desktop recording? |
| 20:33.56 | towo` | i use vokoscreen |
| 20:34.01 | dvs | thinks of an audacity joke |
| 20:34.16 | pppd | dvs: oh, tell me that joke, I use audacity :) |
| 20:34.26 | dvs | heh |
| 20:34.31 | jhuebner | my desktop doesn't make any sounds.. |
| 20:34.42 | jhuebner | :P |
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| 20:39.07 | pppd | Urgent question: Only Packages file has to be signed on repository, right?! |
| 20:39.08 | pppd | anyone?! |
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| 20:40.44 | eurobit | redstonecraftpl: there is a record in the xawtv |
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| 20:41.32 | dvs | tell eurobit about xawtv |
| 20:41.34 | dvs | ;-) |
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| 20:42.38 | eurobit | what about xawtv? is it juicy gossip i missed? |
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| 20:43.34 | kristijonas | hello, i'm not sure if I should ask a question here or on #flightgear channel, but I don't manage to run it because of some errors which I suspect has something to do with my graphic card, drivers, etc. |
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| 20:45.19 | nath | morning fellows, anyone seen this before: Please make sure that the 'snd_seq_midi' and 'snd_seq_midi_event'? |
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| 20:52.47 | CheckDavid | poeticrpm: didn't test enough to know |
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| 20:54.23 | CheckDavid | poeticrpm: now I see it only happens once after every windows shut down |
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| 20:58.30 | poeticrpm | CheckDavid, that is definitely a Windows problem. You can either try to figure out why Windows is doing that, or you can setup a systemd boot service to mount the drive in such a way that it deletes the hiberfile |
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| 20:58.36 | CheckDavid | But my WiFi is not working yet :/ |
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| 20:58.50 | CheckDavid | That's my current issue. |
| 20:58.52 | poeticrpm | CheckDavid, whats dmesg say? |
| 20:59.01 | poeticrpm | in regards to wifi |
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| 20:59.29 | CheckDavid | Just type dmesg in the terminal? |
| 20:59.40 | CheckDavid | Gibes me a bunch of numbers and says sypressed |
| 20:59.42 | poeticrpm | we need logs. Are wireless networks shown? what is the results of lspci | grep network |
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| 20:59.48 | CheckDavid | After every line of the output |
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| 21:00.14 | poeticrpm | yeah, and pastebin the dmesg output and give us the link |
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| 21:00.31 | CheckDavid | https://i.imgur.com/QqPrO7F.jpg |
| 21:00.41 | CheckDavid | poeticrpm: I can't paste bin no internet |
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| 21:01.28 | poeticrpm | CheckDavid, dmesg > /home/username/dmesglog, then boot a linux livecd where your wifi works and pastebin it that way? |
| 21:02.39 | CheckDavid | I don't have a Linux live CD where WiFi works |
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| 21:03.08 | CheckDavid | I wouldn't be trying yo get WiFi if I already had in another linux |
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| 21:03.17 | eurobit_ | you install debian with the wireless active and it doesn't work? |
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| 21:03.51 | CheckDavid | eurobit_: I didn't install and I don't know what does.it.mean to install with the wireless active. |
| 21:04.10 | CheckDavid | Live debian |
| 21:04.25 | mtn | CheckDavid: did you use the iso that comes with firmware to make your livedisk? |
| 21:04.26 | tpw_rules | i have a raspberry pi which i'm using a wifi dongle with, but it takes forever to fail to bring up eth0. http://pastie.org/private/kifmysoib90lqjfrtods1w . if i comment out the lines in interfaces about eth0, it boots up without the 1.5 minute delay |
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| 21:04.55 | CheckDavid | mtn: I used that Debian + non free firmware iso |
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| 21:04.57 | mtn | CheckDavid: and what wifi card/chip do you have? |
| 21:05.15 | CheckDavid | 7:51:05 PM <centrx> CheckDavid_, You can download it on Windows from here: https://packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/firmware-iwlwifi I was told to install this |
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| 21:05.59 | CheckDavid | For the 7:46:32 PM <CheckDavid_> centrx: I think mine is intel dual band wireless-ac 3160 |
| 21:06.02 | CheckDavid | For that one |
| 21:06.35 | mtn | CheckDavid: did you go to the debian wiki for wireless? it will tell you how to find out exactly which chip your wireless uses. |
| 21:06.55 | CheckDavid | mtn: windows tells me that's the one |
| 21:07.27 | mtn | CheckDavid: don't care what windows says, what does linux say? you can use the live disk to find out, using info the wiki has. |
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| 21:08.17 | mtn | CheckDavid: if it is an intel chip, the iso with firmware should "just work" |
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| 21:09.00 | mtn | CheckDavid: if you need a newer version of the software, you could use the jessie installer that comes with firmware. |
| 21:09.40 | CheckDavid | OK let me check mtn it just gets a bit hard cuz I only have my phone now to connect to the web |
| 21:09.52 | philuk2000 | Can someone recommend any good NFC reader applications for linux? |
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| 21:13.32 | nicko88 | anyone know why trim isn't working on my btrfs partition |
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| 21:14.52 | CheckDavid | mtn: lspci grep network returned nothing |
| 21:14.59 | CheckDavid | As you.can see in the link I posted |
| 21:15.12 | mtn | CheckDavid: what link? |
| 21:15.32 | CheckDavid | 9:00:31 PM <CheckDavid> https://i.imgur.com/QqPrO7F.jpg mtn |
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| 21:16.38 | mtn | CheckDavid: run "lspci -nn" and read the lines, looking for wireless or network. |
| 21:16.44 | acrawford | i'm about to install amd drivers on debian 8, and I always bork my system this way |
| 21:16.57 | acrawford | is there any easy backup app for debian? |
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| 21:17.52 | CheckDavid | Command not found mtn |
| 21:18.02 | CheckDavid | Oh wait |
| 21:18.48 | CheckDavid | It has a network and an Ethernet controller |
| 21:19.02 | mtn | CheckDavid: what is the first one? |
| 21:19.59 | CheckDavid | Let me show you. https://i.imgur.com/lWEzr70.jpg |
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| 21:20.10 | CheckDavid | I mistyped the command earlier |
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| 21:22.05 | CheckDavid | Which one of them.is it? |
| 21:22.52 | mtn | CheckDavid: according to the wiki, that will work find with jessie and the firmware. |
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| 21:23.32 | mtn | CheckDavid: its id is 8086:08b4, intel device |
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| 21:23.44 | CheckDavid | Oh. And that means what exaxtly? |
| 21:23.48 | CheckDavid | I need a special .ISO? |
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| 21:26.04 | mtn | CheckDavid: if you need a newer version of the software, you could use the jessie installer that comes with firmware. |
| 21:26.34 | CheckDavid | mtn: comes with firmware? So I have it already? |
| 21:26.48 | CheckDavid | I have an ISO with non free firmware |
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| 21:26.53 | mtn | CheckDavid: if you got the jessie version, not the stable version, then yes you do |
| 21:27.07 | CheckDavid | I don't think I got the Jessie version |
| 21:27.10 | beepie | doodles |
| 21:27.12 | CheckDavid | So maybe I should get it right? |
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| 21:28.05 | mtn | CheckDavid: that is what I have said a couple of times |
| 21:28.14 | beepie | git |
| 21:28.16 | jhutchins | CheckDavid: Be aware that the jessie installer exists for the purpose of testing the installer at this point. |
| 21:28.34 | jhutchins | CheckDavid: The recommended method of installing jessie is still to install wheezy and upgrade. |
| 21:28.34 | beepie | jessie/install is actually very usable and quite stable |
| 21:28.36 | CheckDavid | jhutchins: what does that mean for me? |
| 21:28.43 | CheckDavid | Many bugs? Lol |
| 21:28.55 | beepie | very usable, the bugs atm are "minor" |
| 21:28.56 | mtn | CheckDavid: using a lan connection would save a lot of time, if that is an option |
| 21:29.02 | CheckDavid | jhutchins: I'm not.installing. I'm running live |
| 21:29.02 | beepie | not even noticeable afaict |
| 21:29.05 | jhutchins | CheckDavid: Why are you trying to run testing anyway? I got the feeling that you weren't very familiar with Debian yet. |
| 21:29.26 | mtn | jhutchins: he needs a newer firmware for his intel wireless |
| 21:29.26 | jhutchins | CheckDavid: Did you decide to do a hard disk install? |
| 21:29.37 | CheckDavid | jhutchins: I'm told its what I need to rhave wifi |
| 21:29.56 | jhutchins | CheckDavid: Still looking at a live/persistent USB install? |
| 21:29.58 | CheckDavid | jhutchins: no. There is no method that worked till now. |
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| 21:30.27 | CheckDavid | jhutchins: yes. A live persistent would be nice. With extra WiFi please :p |
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| 21:31.12 | beepie | CheckDavid, there is but it uses kernel 3.2, you probably need 3.10+, ... the trick is to use the onboard nic if there's one and install the firmware .deb from there (or transfer it on usb) |
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| 21:32.22 | beepie | CheckDavid, you can always "wait" until jessie becomes stable, and then a community edition including non-free would be available.. |
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| 21:32.26 | beepie | CheckDavid, XD |
| 21:33.22 | tomivs | Hi, my docky is not working when i enable 3D mode |
| 21:33.24 | tomivs | http://uploadpie.com/gh31w |
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| 21:33.30 | tomivs | ^^Ĥere a screenshot |
| 21:34.03 | CheckDavid | beepie: so is the conclusion that.my laptop has very recent non open source hardware(firmware) ? |
| 21:34.30 | beepie | CheckDavid, i'm saying if you know how to use a usb stick or have access to the on-board nic with a Jessie install, then you can have wifi |
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| 21:34.51 | beepie | CheckDavid, i've tried to help someone exactly in your situation last night |
| 21:35.16 | beepie | CheckDavid, but they were too new in knowing how to mount a usb XD |
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| 21:35.49 | beepie | CheckDavid, should be easy if the GUI works.. |
| 21:36.02 | CheckDavid | Mount a usb? Getting it to boot? I don't know what the nic is or if I have access to it |
| 21:36.25 | CheckDavid | Which gui? Jessie's GUI?/ |
| 21:36.32 | beepie | sorry |
| 21:36.51 | tomivs | http://uploadpie.com/xJhsT >> Why my docky looks like? |
| 21:36.57 | mtn | CheckDavid: don't you have a lan connection you can use? |
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| 21:41.26 | CheckDavid | mtn: doesn't work either |
| 21:41.36 | CheckDavid | Let me try again though. |
| 21:41.40 | CheckDavid | But I need WiFi... |
| 21:41.47 | CheckDavid | Is.it to get WiFi? |
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| 21:46.13 | Tau | i remember there were an applicatoin that made every cli based program turn into unbuffered mode. |
| 21:46.17 | Tau | but i forgot its name. |
| 21:46.20 | Tau | does someone here remember? |
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| 21:46.57 | beepie | wbJyoux8 |
| 21:47.05 | Tau | nvm |
| 21:47.16 | beepie | blblblyouxxggqwdfa |
| 21:47.20 | beepie | 8 |
| 21:47.21 | beepie | XD |
| 21:47.22 | beepie | oO |
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| 21:47.30 | beepie | buffers |
| 21:47.37 | beepie | lol |
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| 21:48.15 | rryoumaa | Tau: stdbuf? |
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| 21:50.19 | viccuad | for sure you have already seen this, but this artwork is amazing: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianArt/Themes/fresh |
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| 21:51.07 | CheckDavid | Oh. I manager to connect to WiFi. |
| 21:51.12 | CheckDavid | I mean. Cable |
| 21:51.39 | viccuad | oh jeez, I meant this redesign: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianArt/Themes/Lines |
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| 21:53.18 | CheckDavid_ | I managed to connect to the internet through a lan cable, i was not able to before on the debian version without non-free firmware. |
| 21:53.23 | CheckDavid_ | But still no wifi. |
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| 21:54.21 | beepie | CheckDavid, so add backports, add kernel 3.14, (install the wifi firmware package), and reboot |
| 21:54.48 | CheckDavid_ | beepie: can I easily google all that? |
| 21:54.53 | beepie | !backports |
| 21:54.54 | dpkg | A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
| 21:55.21 | CheckDavid_ | So which backports do I need? |
| 21:55.28 | beepie | CheckDavid, read |
| 21:55.30 | CheckDavid_ | And I am on debian live, how do I make it persistent? |
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| 21:55.45 | beepie | oh |
| 21:55.53 | beepie | ignores CheckDavid |
| 21:55.57 | beepie | and done |
| 21:56.59 | CheckDavid_ | Oh damn. Im never gonna figure this out :( |
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| 22:00.52 | jasonwc | I setup a bond on 2 NICs but network manager keeps on interfering and trying to assign IPs to the slaves. How do I stop this without just disabling network manager? |
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| 22:04.26 | jhutchins | CheckDavid: You are learning the limits of IRC as your primary source. You need to hit some of the web pages that discuss persistent live images, including pendrivelinux.com |
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| 22:05.49 | jasonwc | Ah, I figured it out |
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| 22:06.10 | jasonwc | iface ethX inet manual does the trick |
| 22:06.14 | beepie | jasonwc, NetWorkmanager.conf has an ifup plugin section to blacklist interfaces defined in /etc/network/interfaces, so that ifupdown can work without NM interfereing |
| 22:06.20 | jasonwc | tells network-manager to keep its hands off that interface |
| 22:06.23 | jasonwc | but allows it to set up others |
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| 22:06.41 | jasonwc | seems you can do the same thing from /etc/network/interfaces directly |
| 22:07.09 | beepie | jasonwc, you don't need to figure it out, it's bloody documented in the NM manpage :) |
| 22:07.47 | beepie | will stop listening to people who ever use the word "seem" :) |
| 22:07.58 | jasonwc | lol |
| 22:07.59 | beepie | thinks seem=clueless |
| 22:08.25 | jasonwc | Ok, I'll revise my statement. Using the aforementioned line in /etc/network/interfaces, NM does not attempt to configure said interfaces. |
| 22:08.35 | beepie | ignores jasonwc |
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| 22:08.43 | beepie | I've done it before with NM& interfaces. |
| 22:09.15 | beepie | returns back to zenoss and snmp aggravation |
| 22:09.34 | beepie | blerg I hate saturdays, or maybe it's that junk xmas time of year again |
| 22:09.40 | jasonwc | ah, I see what you were referring to |
| 22:09.41 | jasonwc | no-auto-default=<hwaddr>,<hwaddr>,... |
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| 22:11.12 | CheckDavid_ | Thanks jhutchins . There is so much stuff olly the web that actually doesn't work, that I just try to find recommendations from people. |
| 22:11.18 | CheckDavid_ | *online |
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| 22:17.05 | CheckDavid_ | *on |
| 22:20.43 | CheckDavid_ | by the way jhutchins the info on pendrivelinux is very outdated, and it's for 5.0, the steps are not reproducible |
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| 22:26.35 | pkkm | hi, I remember seeing a command-line utility for generating random input data of a specified format (useful for testing numerical software), but don't remember its name. any ideas? |
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| 22:30.22 | jhutchins | ,v flashplugin-nonfree |
| 22:30.23 | judd | Package: flashplugin-nonfree on i386 -- wheezy/contrib: 1:3.2+wheezy1; jessie/contrib: 1:3.6; sid/contrib: 1:3.6 |
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| 22:31.17 | woshty | jhutchins: that failed for me a few days ago .. |
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| 22:34.01 | tomivs | http://uploadpie.com/xJhsT >> Why my docky looks like? :-( |
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| 22:34.50 | PerfDave | Hey all, quick question: How do I rsync a file in /dev ? |
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| 22:39.56 | Some_Person | Is there a faster way than dd to clone a partition to a mountable file? |
| 22:40.41 | Some_Person | I'm only getting around 9 MB/s with dd |
| 22:41.14 | rgr | mountable file? you mean like creating an iso? |
| 22:41.39 | Some_Person | No, I mean anything that the mount command can mount. I've noticed that dding a partition works nicely for this |
| 22:41.44 | rgr | PerfDave: you wouldnt rsync anything in dev |
| 22:42.08 | rgr | why dd it? Just rsync it. |
| 22:42.19 | rgr | much faster generally especially with incremental updates. |
| 22:42.23 | beepie | Some_Person, maybe you need to learn how to use dd properly |
| 22:42.29 | woshty | Some_Person: you might want to read up on blocksize |
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| 22:43.40 | Some_Person | I basically just want a copy of everything on the drive before I wipe it |
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| 22:43.56 | Some_Person | No incremental updates |
| 22:43.56 | rgr | then rsyanc it. |
| 22:44.05 | rgr | or cp -r |
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| 22:44.31 | rgr | unless its a system partition with grub/mbt etc on it in which case dd. Whats on it? |
| 22:44.55 | Some_Person | Not sure what's on it. It's a drive from a machine that hasn't been used in about 2 years |
| 22:45.04 | kale | is there a video streaming server in debian? |
| 22:45.09 | beepie | uses cp -xRPpa <> <> XD |
| 22:45.26 | Some_Person | I'd like to just get an exact copy of the partitions |
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| 22:45.28 | rgr | well, not much point asking if you dont know whats on it because that dictates the answer. |
| 22:45.32 | rgr | partitions?? |
| 22:45.36 | rgr | you said "partition" earlier. |
| 22:45.37 | PerfDave | Some_Person: What is your dd command? |
| 22:46.00 | Some_Person | PerfDave: I'm just doing dd if=/dev/sda1 of=/media/somewhere/sda1.img |
| 22:46.12 | PerfDave | Some_Person: OK, so you're reading one byte at a time, that's going to be crap slow |
| 22:46.14 | rgr | if you want a exact copy then yes use dd and ensuure dest drive is bigger than source. |
| 22:46.18 | beepie | lol |
| 22:46.20 | PerfDave | dd bs=1024 as a minimum, probably larger |
| 22:46.32 | Some_Person | Oh, I didn't know that read one byte at a time |
| 22:46.34 | beepie | Some_Person, you don't know how to use dd, that's 512 bytes per block transfer |
| 22:46.46 | teraflops | kale: you can stream video on demand with icecast |
| 22:46.48 | PerfDave | Oh 512 whatever the default is I dunno :) |
| 22:46.50 | beepie | Some_Person, see the manpage, for greater bs= size |
| 22:47.03 | Some_Person | What would you suggest using as the value for that? |
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| 22:47.09 | PerfDave | dd bs=1M |
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| 22:47.23 | beepie | it could be 20 times greater |
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| 22:47.31 | kale | teraflops: thanks, know anything about icecast? |
| 22:47.50 | rgr | Some_Person: go read up on it. There is no one answer. This covers it well : http://stackoverflow.com/questions/6161823/dd-how-to-calculate-optimal-blocksize |
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| 22:48.40 | teraflops | kale: i did all the stuff a year ago, but i do not remember the details in deep, let me see if I find some documentation |
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| 22:49.36 | Some_Person | Thanks for the suggestion! I wish I knew about the bs parameter before |
| 22:49.37 | kale | teraflops: can i make it stream video? webpage says audio. |
| 22:49.41 | PerfDave | So yeah, any idea how to rsync a device file? http://paste.debian.net/136465/ shows the problem I'm having and -D doesn't help |
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| 22:50.36 | kale | PerfDave: i got into the conversation too late, in short, what are you trying to do? |
| 22:50.54 | teraflops | kale: video too |
| 22:50.57 | PerfDave | kale: I'm trying to make a complete copy of a disk partition onto another machine. |
| 22:51.39 | teraflops | kale: in my case i setup ogg to transcode on the fly when serving a video |
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| 22:52.24 | kale | PerfDave: ok, on the source: dd if=/dev/sourcepartition | ssh user@remotehost "dd of=/dev/targetpartition" |
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| 22:52.56 | PerfDave | kale: Yeah, I did that before, and the connection dropped 42GB into a 55GB transfer, so I'm trying to avoid starting from scratch :) |
| 22:53.01 | kale | PerfDave: make sure none of the partitions are mounted and that they have the same size. another option is to make a tarball of the data inside the partition |
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| 22:53.20 | Some_Person | I'm getting around 52 MB/s now; thanks so much! |
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| 22:53.58 | kale | teraflops: my goal is to be streaming my desktop to a reapberrypi and then show it on my telly. |
| 22:55.35 | teraflops | kale: well i streamed(?) video files not piping live captures, but i suppose it can be done, or may be icecast is not what youre looking for |
| 22:56.18 | teraflops | kale: vod as I said |
| 22:56.24 | kale | teraflops: i have been looking for somthing that does this for a while, seems its tricky. |
| 22:57.10 | teraflops | kale: did you look at ogmtools? |
| 22:57.18 | kale | teraflops: anyways, i'll take a look at icecast, and see how close to my goal i can get. i guess there will always be a small latency |
| 22:57.29 | kale | teraflops: nope, thought that was only audio |
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| 22:58.07 | teraflops | kale: dam i have all the stuff documented i think I have on google drive but it is in spanish ;) |
| 22:58.12 | teraflops | damn* |
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| 23:07.30 | kingsley | FYI: http://www.eejournal.com/archives/articles/20141210-risc-v/] |
| 23:07.56 | kingsley | Oops.... ignore the trailing "]" that I accidentally typed. |
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| 23:08.02 | kingsley | The correct URL is |
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| 23:08.06 | kingsley | http://www.eejournal.com/archives/articles/20141210-risc-v/ |
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| 23:08.42 | Alex-Musicman | ok, even with or no fglrx driver, my xorg isn't working, even with my onboard HD3000 graphic card which should be work fine |
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| 23:09.01 | Lubert | Alex-Musicman: which version of debian are you running? |
| 23:09.11 | Alex-Musicman | I continue with no login session.. the Debian keeps on black screen |
| 23:09.15 | Alex-Musicman | debian 7 wheezy |
| 23:09.39 | Alex-Musicman | this issue began after the package updates |
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| 23:09.43 | kingsley | ^ Berkeleyâs RISC-V Wants to Be Free |
| 23:09.46 | Lubert | Alex-Musicman: you can easily get it working if you sacrifice security support |
| 23:09.55 | Lubert | Alex-Musicman: by dist-upgrading to jessie |
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| 23:10.30 | jhutchins | Lubert: There have also been some major breakages in jessie lately, particularly video. |
| 23:10.30 | Alex-Musicman | I just rebooted and... where are my X? |
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| 23:10.47 | jhutchins | Alex-Musicman: Did you have ati drivers installed? |
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| 23:10.59 | Alex-Musicman | jhutchins: yes |
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| 23:11.03 | Alex-Musicman | I tried all |
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| 23:11.10 | eurobit | type startx and see what the error is |
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| 23:11.22 | Alex-Musicman | I removed all xorg and reinstalled all |
| 23:11.25 | jhutchins | Alex-Musicman: If you update the kernel you have to rebuild the proprietary drivers. |
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| 23:11.43 | jhutchins | Alex-Musicman: That was a rather silly thing to do. |
| 23:12.09 | Alex-Musicman | I'm using opensource ati driver now.. even with my onboard graphic itz not working |
| 23:12.13 | Alex-Musicman | I tried vesa also |
| 23:12.26 | jhutchins | Alex-Musicman: There is a log at /var/log/Xorg.0.log - between that and dmesg you should be able to see what's wrong. |
| 23:12.35 | Alex-Musicman | I keeping in the blackscreen |
| 23:12.37 | Guest8220 | jhutchins: am running a HD4400 on jessie |
| 23:12.46 | Guest8220 | jhutchins: nothing on wheezy works with it |
| 23:13.00 | Alex-Musicman | my last lines |
| 23:13.11 | Alex-Musicman | Fatal server error: no screens found |
| 23:13.41 | Alex-Musicman | even I starting with an older kernel version, the problem keeps |
| 23:13.55 | jhutchins | Alex-Musicman: I am pretty sure you have the old configuration for the ATI drivers in place, that's what's keeping the other drivers from working. |
| 23:14.11 | jhutchins | Alex-Musicman: Pretty much anything should work with VESA. |
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| 23:14.35 | Alex-Musicman | yup |
| 23:14.41 | gnudna | apt-get --purge remove package_name |
| 23:14.48 | Alex-Musicman | the problem began suddenly after reboot |
| 23:14.48 | gnudna | thi should remove any configs |
| 23:14.55 | jhutchins | Alex-Musicman: I suppose there's no point in suggesting that you restore the snapshot you made before you updated. |
| 23:15.00 | Alex-Musicman | I purged many things |
| 23:15.01 | Alex-Musicman | hehe |
| 23:15.11 | gnudna | that could be another issue |
| 23:15.14 | gnudna | :) |
| 23:15.34 | jhutchins | gnudna: apt-get won't purge 3rd party configs. |
| 23:15.39 | Alex-Musicman | how I go back? hehe |
| 23:16.06 | gnudna | jhutchins i was under the impression it would remove all files linked in the deb |
| 23:16.26 | jhutchins | gnudna: 3rd party drivers aren't in a deb. |
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| 23:17.20 | gnudna | ah sorry i thought we were referring to non-free debs |
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| 23:17.56 | jhutchins | Alex-Musicman: I think I would re-read the instructions on installing the ATI drivers, remove any xorg.conf or /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/ files and re-run the installation process. That should get you back up. |
| 23:17.58 | Alex-Musicman | I don't want format and install everything... My distro have 1 yo, it'll take several days or weeks to I make it like before |
| 23:18.55 | jhutchins | Alex-Musicman: There isn't any reason to do that. |
| 23:18.57 | gnudna | Alex-Musicman look in /var/log/apt |
| 23:19.08 | gnudna | try installing all the removed packages |
| 23:19.14 | gnudna | and hope it works for you |
| 23:19.17 | gnudna | ;) |
| 23:19.36 | jhutchins | aptitude -f install should take care of anything that needs to be there. |
| 23:19.43 | Alex-Musicman | jhutchins: I'm not using xorg.conf right now.. the auto ever worked for me... I had when I was using AMD catalyst |
| 23:21.12 | jhutchins | Alex-Musicman: Again, look at dmesg and at /var/log/Xorg.0.log, figure out what's not working and fix it. |
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| 23:23.02 | _aeris_ | hi debian ! |
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| 23:23.33 | _aeris_ | i upgrade some time ago to 1.0.1e-2+deb7u13 but i havenât FALLBACK SCSV on apache |
| 23:23.44 | _aeris_ | anybody here have a clue for that trouble ? :( |
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| 23:34.31 | Carl555 | Hi, does exsist a backport X for Wheezy? I should update it but I guess that installing the testing version on wheezy could cause problems. Then if is possible to upgrade it how to install it? |
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| 23:37.35 | Brigo | ,v xorg |
| 23:37.45 | judd | Package: xorg on i386 -- squeeze-security: 1:7.5+8+squeeze1; squeeze: 1:7.5+8+squeeze1; squeeze-backports: 1:7.6+8~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1:7.7+3~deb7u1; jessie: 1:7.7+7; sid: 1:7.7+7 |
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| 23:38.06 | Brigo | Carl555, xorg is not in backports, sorry. |
| 23:39.32 | Carl555 | :( |
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| 23:40.22 | Alex-Musicman | jhutchins: can I paste in your pm the log? I haven't graphic right now for pastebin... |
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| 23:44.06 | entelechy | Anyone else on jessie here having fun with firefox and the flash plugin being reported outta date on everything |
| 23:44.29 | entelechy | weirdly it gave me like, swedish menu options on the adobe flash plugin website for download options |
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| 23:44.43 | entelechy | i am in costa rica not sweden so it seemed hella absurd |
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| 23:44.57 | entelechy | like, should i be using my computer right now kind of absurd |
| 23:45.25 | eurobit | isn't swedish the language of costa rica? my bad |
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| 23:45.38 | entelechy | nah the finns kicked the swedes out in like 1892 |
| 23:45.43 | entelechy | didnt you learn this in school |
| 23:45.46 | entelechy | the finns beat everyone |
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| 23:46.36 | eurobit | no way the monroe doctrine won't have allowed the finns anywhere near cosa rica . and weren't the finns busy fighting the ruskies then? |
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| 23:46.59 | entelechy | this country is overrun with norweigian eskimoes |
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| 23:47.48 | eurobit | viking eskimos? serves the norwegian right for messing in france |
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| 23:48.05 | eurobit | slaughtering all them monks and all |
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| 23:48.19 | entelechy | the vikings made it to the new world first, and got chased out by angry canadian eskimoes |
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| 23:48.37 | eurobit | what a minute - eskimos are american not norwegian - you almost had me there |
| 23:48.45 | entelechy | they got these settlement ruins you can check out in newfoundland |
| 23:48.53 | entelechy | which i think are something of a recent find |
| 23:49.05 | entelechy | ppl thought the viking sagas were a bunch of made up kerfuffle |
| 23:49.11 | entelechy | until then |
| 23:49.12 | SynrG | all of which is fascinating at OT :) |
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| 23:49.15 | SynrG | and* |
| 23:49.18 | entelechy | yea back to my topic |
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| 23:49.35 | Agiofws | (Agiofws) Hello can any take a look at http://pastebin.com/JM42QGYi i'm trying to figure out if its my vga card thats dying or my laptop's lcd screen. I'm getting a black screen 15 secs after boot... Thank you |
| 23:49.39 | SynrG | dunno. i use chromium ... |
| 23:49.40 | entelechy | so the flash plugin on firefox... wait... does debian handle the flash plugin via packages |
| 23:49.47 | SynrG | also, see #debian-next @ irc.oftc.net for jessie support |
| 23:49.50 | entelechy | or is this baked into ff these days |
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| 23:49.53 | eurobit | SynrG: we are trying to get the OP (entelechy) problem figured out |
| 23:50.39 | entelechy | i was under the impression that i had flash via packages |
| 23:50.41 | eurobit | entelechy: maybe you should try youtube-dl and leave the youtube lag and flash crap behind? |
| 23:50.43 | SynrG | and so am i ... |
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| 23:51.17 | entelechy | lol because i'm not a crazy person who waits for every single youtube deal to download before enjoying it? |
| 23:51.28 | SynrG | yes, flashplugin-nonfree |
| 23:51.31 | entelechy | okay |
| 23:51.34 | entelechy | lemme scope on that |
| 23:51.43 | SynrG | and update-flashplugin-nonfree to update to the lastest version |
| 23:51.56 | SynrG | and update-flashplugin-nonfree --status to see which one it has, if you already have that installed |
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| 23:52.22 | entelechy | lol it wasn't even installed in the first place |
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| 23:52.36 | SynrG | it's from contrib |
| 23:52.41 | entelechy | guess some free software implementation of flash was being used? |
| 23:52.47 | entelechy | gnash or whatever? |
| 23:52.50 | SynrG | probably |
| 23:53.18 | ROG3R | I recently changed the hostname and I am getting this error: unable to resolve host |
| 23:53.43 | eurobit | ROG3R: did you also change the entry in /etc/hosts |
| 23:54.19 | entelechy | huh. still same business |
| 23:55.56 | ROG3R | eurobit: now it worked. thank you |
| 23:56.11 | jasonwc | I noticed that iftop does not count network overhead. Is there a tool that does or a way to get it to do so? |
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| 23:57.33 | andril | hello |
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| 23:58.15 | andril | i need help installing libc6 2.15 - Debian 7.7 |
| 23:58.19 | entelechy | ah SynrG your advice worked for one computer |
| 23:58.27 | entelechy | not the other weirdly but lemme eliminate confusion |
| 23:58.40 | entelechy | kaching |
| 23:58.41 | entelechy | there we go |
| 23:58.42 | entelechy | done |
| 23:59.19 | eurobit | andril: why are you messing with libc? |
| 23:59.37 | andril | trying to install Opera |
