| 00:00.59 | pppd | jelly-home: apt-get also works |
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| 00:15.52 | pppd | hi |
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| 00:34.18 | pce | hi, what should i do, debian is not reorganized my windows portion and also not the portion i created with gparted ? |
| 00:34.51 | abrotman | what? |
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| 00:35.20 | garyserj | I see the page here https://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ says 280MB CD image. What does it expand to once installed? |
| 00:35.33 | pce | debian thinks the hole hard disc is free |
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| 00:37.17 | Lady_Aleena | Does Debian install jquery by default? |
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| 00:37.52 | g00se | jquery the JavaScript library? |
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| 00:39.06 | abrotman | Lady_Aleena: No |
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| 00:39.27 | Lady_Aleena | g00se, yes, that. |
| 00:40.11 | jhutchins | pce: You can have a pretty full installation in less than 20GB. |
| 00:40.12 | g00se | That's most unlikely i would have thought in any kind of install. Why do you ask? |
| 00:40.40 | jhutchins | ,v jquery |
| 00:40.41 | judd | No package named 'jquery' was found in i386. |
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| 00:40.58 | pce | jhutchins, that was ni=ot my question |
| 00:41.05 | jhutchins | Lady_Aleena: You know how to find individual files and such, right. |
| 00:41.24 | reynulds | jquery is gonna die - is dying a horrible death - there are many better ways to do things on the web |
| 00:41.24 | jhutchins | pce: The actual answer to your question is it doesn't. |
| 00:41.26 | Lady_Aleena | jhutchins, sometimes. |
| 00:41.36 | abrotman | Lady_Aleena: Again, no |
| 00:41.48 | ebfull | is there a recommended way to add a hook after cryptroot but before resume in initramfs-tools? |
| 00:42.02 | ebfull | i don't see any of the scripts in /etc/initramfs-tools/scripts or a way to define order |
| 00:42.25 | Lady_Aleena | abrotman, okay, I get it, it wasn't installed. |
| 00:42.28 | pce | jhutchins, i ask what should i do if debian don't reorganized my windows portion and thinks the hole disc is free |
| 00:43.15 | jhutchins | pce: Figure out why, possibly use a different tool for partitioning. |
| 00:43.18 | reynulds | pce it will |
| 00:43.21 | abrotman | pce: Which version of Windows? Is it encrypted? |
| 00:43.22 | jhutchins | pce: What version of windows? |
| 00:43.54 | pce | win7 and not encrypted |
| 00:44.00 | jhutchins | pce: Sorry, I was replying to garyserj about the size of the installation. |
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| 00:44.07 | jhutchins | garyserj: Did you see my replies to pce? |
| 00:44.09 | pce | np |
| 00:44.23 | g00se | aptitude install libjs-jquery |
| 00:44.38 | jhutchins | pce: It could be that it's a GPT or EFI disk, although I thought the installer handled that correctly. |
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| 00:45.07 | jhutchins | pce: I no longer build hundreds of systems so I don't run the installer that often these days. |
| 00:45.43 | jhutchins | pce: There is a gparted utility disk you can boot with and examine the drive, determine what the installer is seeing. |
| 00:45.57 | abrotman | pce: Does windows currently reboot? |
| 00:45.59 | abrotman | erm .. boot |
| 00:46.09 | jhutchins | pce: Ah, and I read back further in the scrollbuffer and see you've done that. Hmn. |
| 00:46.15 | pce | abrotman, yes |
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| 00:55.35 | sydney | Can anyone help me with this error? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/9522305/ |
| 00:55.36 | acrawford | Gparted shows /dev/sda1 has 100GB free, but df -h shows only /dev/sdb7, and no space left |
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| 00:55.49 | acrawford | and i'm getting out of disk errors |
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| 00:57.58 | reynulds | you must have some pretty bad disk errors for df to only show one partition on the drive |
| 00:58.06 | reynulds | does it hang? |
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| 00:58.12 | acrawford | i partitioned somethin gwrong |
| 00:58.24 | abrotman | sydney: no such thing as "universe" for Debian, not sure where you got those sources |
| 00:58.38 | acrawford | damn i notice / really is on another partition on dev/sdb |
| 00:58.39 | sydney | http://i.imgur.com/2xoiAVr.png |
| 00:58.49 | sydney | Oh. |
| 00:59.09 | sydney | I odnt know why there in there? |
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| 00:59.24 | sydney | So, i just have to remove "universe" from the lines? |
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| 01:00.21 | just_jon | [hniym26649876 |
| 01:00.50 | sydney | abrotman: ? |
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| 01:03.18 | andril | hello |
| 01:03.34 | sydney | Hi |
| 01:04.00 | andril | hey sydney :) |
| 01:04.03 | sydney | Hey!!!, That worked!!! |
| 01:04.07 | abrotman | shocker |
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| 01:04.30 | abrotman | sydney: now, what were you actually trying to do? |
| 01:04.38 | sydney | Hmm, a naughty program must have edited my repos. |
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| 01:04.46 | abrotman | probably the user |
| 01:04.48 | sydney | Trying to apt-get update. |
| 01:04.54 | abrotman | to add what? |
| 01:05.09 | sydney | I am the user. And i didint add that to my repos. |
| 01:05.17 | abrotman | It didn't happen magically |
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| 01:05.29 | sydney | I know, thats why i am confused. |
| 01:05.40 | andril | anyone have a good source.list for Debian 7.7? |
| 01:05.49 | abrotman | dpkg: tell andril about wheezy sources.list |
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| 01:06.47 | andril | cool |
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| 01:07.20 | sydney | Thats a pickle. |
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| 01:07.30 | sydney | Well, thanks abrotman :) |
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| 01:27.02 | wheezyPUP | I've tried to repair broken login... it tells me there is no /bin/bash is this something I can replace ? |
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| 01:27.39 | reynulds | i sure hope so |
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| 01:28.26 | abrotman | wheezyPUP: /bin/dash perhaps |
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| 01:29.17 | wheezyPUP | abrotman I have poor vision... that might be it |
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| 01:30.24 | wheezyPUP | oh gee... maybe thats why it isnt working... should I be typing init=/bin/DASH (lc) ? |
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| 01:33.05 | abrotman | wheezyPUP: no, they both should work |
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| 01:33.30 | wheezyPUP | will go try again, thx |
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| 01:48.13 | ROG3R | how can i get the volume buttons on my vaio to work? |
| 01:49.25 | reynulds | what does xev or cat show them to be |
| 01:49.34 | fraktor | I have a shared printer, and for some reason it's not allowing printing from the client computers. it worked until we replaced our router, at which point it changed IP addresses; however, I've adjusted everything, and it should work now. |
| 01:50.00 | ROG3R | reynulds: |
| 01:50.13 | ROG3R | what is the command for that |
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| 01:51.10 | abrotman | xev is the command |
| 01:51.15 | reynulds | xev or cat ?? |
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| 01:54.40 | ROG3R | reynulds: http://paste.debian.net/136598/ |
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| 01:56.50 | reynulds | so use the keybinding in your wm/de to use that keycode to do something ... volume up down etc |
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| 01:58.30 | ROG3R | reynulds: can u be more specific? |
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| 01:58.53 | reynulds | i use fluxbox - |
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| 02:02.33 | fraktor | I've shared out the printer properly on the CUPS server, but I can't find it using the "Find New Printers" button on the client. how do I do that? |
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| 02:15.42 | ROG3R | how do I get my F2 to mute the sound |
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| 02:16.35 | pppd | 20GB enough for system (/) partition? |
| 02:16.42 | pppd | I want to be sure it will be enough for the next years though. |
| 02:16.59 | reynulds_ | what else is on / |
| 02:17.23 | dvs | pppd: I hope you're not gonna use a heavy-duty desktop environment. |
| 02:17.32 | amphi | pppd: I would give it more if you can afford to |
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| 02:18.35 | pppd | dvs / amphi: It is a non-graphical server |
| 02:18.43 | pppd | dvs / amphi: Yes, I can give it more, how much would be secure? |
| 02:19.50 | reynulds_ | if usr var root home are on other partitions then 20G for / is good (etc ..) |
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| 02:20.07 | pppd | containers are used on that system |
| 02:20.13 | pppd | but that system itself still uses some services |
| 02:20.16 | pppd | for the containers and outsidd |
| 02:20.19 | pppd | outside* |
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| 02:32.25 | sexyboy | hey my debian is working how can i solve this |
| 02:33.06 | reynulds_ | upgrade? |
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| 02:33.14 | dvs | use sid |
| 02:34.28 | reynulds_ | sexyboy: do you wear a hair knot? |
| 02:35.13 | abrotman | .. |
| 02:35.26 | ariscop | sexyboy, delete system32 |
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| 02:51.58 | lillian | What's the easiest way to copy a bunch of users and their home dirs to a new system? |
| 02:52.14 | lillian | along with perms |
| 02:52.30 | sexyboy | rsync |
| 02:52.34 | reynulds_ | cp -a |
| 02:52.57 | reynulds_ | tar up /home and cp -a it |
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| 02:53.50 | reynulds_ | and make sure you have the /etc/passwd (shadow) /etc/group (gshadow) entries too |
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| 02:54.59 | lillian | reynulds_: okay so copy the respective user and gorup entries in /etc/passwd and /etc/group to the new system |
| 02:55.10 | abrotman | and /etc/shadow |
| 02:55.41 | abrotman | lillian: this is assuming normal local users, not something like LDAP/Radius |
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| 02:56.23 | lillian | nods |
| 02:56.48 | reynulds_ | yes |
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| 02:57.11 | reynulds_ | you will know you did right when ls -l /home/* shows correct usernames and not numbers |
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| 03:00.13 | lillian | how can i tar and gunzip a file while preserving permissions and all that |
| 03:00.39 | lillian | i know tar -cvf file.tar inputdir |
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| 03:01.23 | reynulds_ | a file or dir? czpf for dir |
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| 03:02.03 | lillian | dir |
| 03:02.05 | lillian | i see |
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| 03:03.09 | ROG3R | how do i assign an action to a hotkey ? |
| 03:03.19 | reynulds_ | tar czpf dir.tgz dir |
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| 03:04.49 | abrotman | ROG3R: depends on your WM/DE |
| 03:05.12 | ROG3R | abrotman: lxde |
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| 03:09.09 | ROG3R | abrotman: ? |
| 03:10.01 | sexyboy | ROG3R: you window manager/desktop environment |
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| 03:12.29 | ROG3R | sexyboy: I am using LXDE |
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| 03:12.52 | sexyboy | ROG3R: go ask the lxde people then |
| 03:12.56 | veek | curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host 'packages.dotdeb.org' any idea why? |
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| 03:13.03 | reynulds_ | are there lxde people? |
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| 03:13.19 | sexyboy | there must be a lxde channel somewhere |
| 03:13.29 | sexyboy | it's #lxde |
| 03:13.30 | veek | also i'm seeing Downloading Index http://www.deb-multimedia.org/dists/wheezy-backports/main/Contents-amd64.diff/Index: |
| 03:13.30 | veek | No Index available. is that okay? |
| 03:13.43 | reynulds_ | _those_ kind of people probably are on efnet or dalnet |
| 03:14.03 | sexyboy | well there is a channel on freenode too |
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| 03:14.59 | reynulds_ | right ... but you have to cross the railroad tracks to get to their channel |
| 03:15.40 | sexyboy | whatever that means |
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| 03:17.09 | reynulds_ | you never heard of the 'wrong side of the tracks' |
| 03:17.13 | abrotman | !ot |
| 03:17.14 | dpkg | #debian is primarily a support channel for Debian users. Please keep the discussions in #debian on-topic and take longer discussions and non-support questions to #debian-offtopic. Imagine the chaos if each of the hundreds of people in the channel felt the need to wander off topic for a few minutes every day. |
| 03:17.36 | reynulds_ | sexyboy: you never answered if you had a male hair knot? |
| 03:17.45 | abrotman | reynulds_: please take it elsewhere |
| 03:18.03 | ROG3R | rolf |
| 03:18.12 | ROG3R | rofl |
| 03:18.29 | reynulds_ | abrotman: has a male hair knot doesn't he |
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| 03:18.51 | abrotman | reynulds_: Please try to keep it on-topic in the future |
| 03:19.23 | sexyboy | abrotman: am i still banned @ #d-o? |
| 03:19.32 | pfred1 | oh the horror of off topic conversation especially when such pressing matters are beign duscussed |
| 03:20.06 | abrotman | That's irrelevant |
| 03:20.16 | ROG3R | take all oftopic to #malehairknot |
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| 03:21.26 | pfred1 | ROG3R sounds painful |
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| 03:24.06 | veek | curl: (6) Couldn't resolve host 'packages.dotdeb.org'<---- any idea why? |
| 03:24.28 | abrotman | veek: we don't support it, you'll have to ask them. Check to see if their website is working |
| 03:24.43 | lillian | thanks y'all |
| 03:25.14 | abrotman | veek: Obviously confirm other sites work and it's not a general DNS problem |
| 03:25.21 | veek | abrotman, website's working.. |
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| 03:25.40 | veek | and yep apt-file works in general |
| 03:25.47 | abrotman | try again? |
| 03:27.33 | veek | abrotman, now i'm seeing Ignoring source without Contents File: http://packages.dotdeb.org/dists/wheezy/all/Contents-amd64.gz |
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| 03:29.06 | veek | Oo someone has posted the very same:http://superuser.com/questions/789913/apt-file-update-no-index-available |
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| 03:29.34 | pfred1 | I had some problems trying to update iceweasel yesterday |
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| 03:31.51 | pha | I have a dedictaed server... I have a block of IPs added, and it's been working fine and running a few personal sites... then all of a sudden it's stopped working, and I cannot figure out what the problem is... it seems to broadcast the additional IPs, and I can ping them from inside the server, but cannot ping the IP from outside. |
| 03:31.58 | pha | I would really appreciate if someone could point me in the right direction.. |
| 03:32.16 | pha | here are my results: http://pastebin.com/xMTsRdcr |
| 03:33.14 | veek | pha this block of ip's are internal or external ips |
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| 03:34.02 | pha | it's internal IPs, the dedicated server has a different IP... but I bought an extra block (had them assigned by RIPE). |
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| 03:34.51 | pha | and just added them, and they have been working fine; but all of a sudden they are not, and I've contacted the host but they said no problems from their end. |
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| 03:35.10 | veek | pha you can't ping an intenral IP (intranet-ip 192.168 type) from outside? |
| 03:35.49 | pha | sorry, they are external ips. |
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| 03:37.02 | veek | can you connect to them or is it just ping |
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| 03:38.06 | pha | can't connect to them at all... it's like they respond inside the server, but that's it. |
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| 03:38.36 | pha | not pingable from the outside world, can't access the websites, can't do anything with the addtional IPs. |
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| 03:38.45 | pha | it's why I am thinking it's a configuration issue? |
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| 03:39.05 | veek | so your router/gateway can route to them - how are you handling routing |
| 03:41.52 | pha | sorry to be dumb, but I don't understand what you mean? I just added the additional IPs to the interfaces file |
| 03:42.01 | veek | help could someone ban ~jake@195.2.252.186 he's messaging me and asking me to join his n/w or something and he keeps saying 'no' like a poorly written bot |
| 03:42.20 | abrotman | veek: please use /ignore |
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| 03:44.39 | veek | pha what interface file? /etc/hosts? |
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| 03:44.53 | pha | /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 03:45.41 | pppd | So I am inside a chroot, full debian system. |
| 03:45.41 | veek | pha so these ip's are all bound to your gateway server? or are they part of your internal n/w |
| 03:45.49 | pppd | I try to install LVM2, it fails because it is in the chroot. |
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| 03:45.59 | pppd | Is there a handy command which bind mounts everything over from the host system? |
| 03:46.39 | pha | veek: this is them here, http://pastebin.com/DB9LtnV9 |
| 03:46.55 | pha | well, the /etc/network/interfaces file |
| 03:47.39 | pha | just followed the guide: http://help.ovh.co.uk/IpAlias#link8 |
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| 03:50.08 | veek | okay so you have an internal machine with a bunch of virtual interfaces and you want to connect to them etc |
| 03:50.19 | veek | does ifconfig show them |
| 03:50.29 | pha | yes, that's the one |
| 03:50.36 | veek | ifconfig -a |
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| 03:50.48 | pha | yes, it does |
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| 03:50.57 | veek | pastebin that and arp -a |
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| 03:51.50 | veek | also route -v -n |
| 03:52.31 | pha | sure, one second |
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| 03:52.46 | pha | last one is saying: arp: invalid option -- 'r' |
| 03:53.03 | pha | waitm nvm |
| 03:53.20 | pha | pasted wrong, apologies |
| 03:53.33 | dgriffi | does anyone here have a script for allowing users to change their own dovecot passwords? |
| 03:53.51 | pha | http://pastebin.com/eWTX2Mgc |
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| 03:54.58 | veek | yeah well it's a routing problem |
| 03:55.22 | pha | is that something that can be fixed from my end? |
| 03:57.11 | veek | 188.165.246 and then this 178.32.153 and 188.165.246.254 (default gw) - well your ISP has to route the traffic to your server(firewall/gateway) |
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| 03:58.40 | pha | do you mind if I give you a pm? |
| 03:59.12 | pha | and ty for your help thus far btw either way. |
| 03:59.35 | veek | okay |
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| 04:35.53 | someHuman | I already got Debian installed :D |
| 04:36.38 | someHuman | Man that took a while, I just slept throughout the process. Fortunately I did not have to configure anything more than the survey thingy. |
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| 04:51.33 | somiaj | antisaint: do you have a usb thumbdrive? |
| 04:51.43 | antisaint | I do |
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| 04:51.51 | ROG3R | if I do "amixer set Master toggle" in a terminal, nothing happens. how come |
| 04:51.55 | antisaint | Its a old powerbook g4 |
| 04:53.07 | somiaj | asakura: you can write the debian .iso file directally to a thumbdrive and boot from that |
| 04:53.43 | somiaj | dgriffi: https://packages.qa.debian.org/b/bcrypt/news/20121125T163912Z.html -- it was removed due to some release critical bug during the freeze of wheezy. Not sure why, or the exact details, but there is the message |
| 04:53.47 | antisaint | Got a util to write the iso in the right waY? |
| 04:54.39 | somiaj | antisaint: on osx, you might be able to use cp just like you would on any *nix system, 'cp debian.iso /path/to/actual/device', not sure how osx deals with its devices though |
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| 04:56.28 | somiaj | antisaint: make sure you write to the actual device, do not copy it as a file onto the device, and don't write it to one of the partitions. On linux it would be something like 'cp debian.iso /dev/sdc' where /dev/sdc is the usb drive |
| 04:56.46 | antisaint | YA |
| 04:56.49 | antisaint | I got ya |
| 04:56.56 | antisaint | mounts work? |
| 04:57.04 | somiaj | what do you mean mounts? |
| 04:57.31 | somiaj | you want to write to the device, not its mountpoint |
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| 05:01.25 | Nathan2055 | I can't get the VBox Guest Additions installer to run. |
| 05:01.30 | Nathan2055 | Running Debian testing. |
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| 05:02.46 | Nathan2055 | All I get is permission denied, even when running as root. |
| 05:04.31 | antisaint | <PROTECTED> |
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| 05:07.07 | Nathan2055 | What? |
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| 05:15.39 | auscompgeek | Nathan2055: are you sure you're running something like `bash installer.sh`? |
| 05:16.07 | auscompgeek | I doubt you would've mounted the iso with executable bits enabled |
| 05:16.09 | Nathan2055 | facepallms |
| 05:16.13 | Nathan2055 | *facepalms |
| 05:16.28 | Nathan2055 | I was running ./installer.sh |
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| 05:16.45 | Nathan2055 | How can I mount with executable ability? |
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| 05:20.23 | Nathan2055 | auscompgeek: ^ |
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| 05:21.35 | auscompgeek | Nathan2055: you'd have to mount it yourself rather than let nautilus or whatever mount it for you |
| 05:21.43 | Nathan2055 | kk |
| 05:22.28 | Tabulation | Everyone seems to be sleeping on #grub |
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| 05:25.44 | Tabulation | Anyone here knows how to unbrick a laptop that can't boot from cd nor usb key, from grub's rescue mode ? |
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| 05:37.29 | pfred1 | Tabulation you could set the boot device in the BIOS |
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| 05:40.45 | Tabulation | Nope, I can't. I made a mistake when I was trying to install Debian on my new laptop, I put the bios in legacy mode, and I can't revers. |
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| 05:43.36 | Tabulation | From then on, it couldn't boot from a cd. But it could still boot from à usb key. And that's how I finally managed to install Jessie. |
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| 05:44.45 | Tabulation | And now I can't even boot from a key. |
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| 05:49.57 | Tabulation | And typing long sentences in English on a smartphone keyboard set to French is kinda tenions. |
| 05:50.08 | Tabulation | ... |
| 05:50.31 | Tabulation | *tedious |
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| 05:58.56 | joehh1 | Tabulation: is grub installed on the hd? |
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| 06:00.06 | jaggz-d | any of you got a nvidia 970 or more working in linux? |
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| 06:00.24 | Tabulation | I guess so. Can't tell for certain |
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| 06:04.06 | askus | Hi |
| 06:05.09 | askus | Does it make sense to partition a virtual disk. In the rare but still possible scenario that only one disk is/can be attached? |
| 06:05.59 | askus | Ianyone? |
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| 06:12.53 | jaggz-d | Tabulation, can't tell if you got your 970 working? |
| 06:13.11 | jaggz-d | askus, probably depends on your circumstances |
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| 06:15.15 | askus | Debian Wheezy amd64 on kvm, one big virtual disk attached. |
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| 06:15.27 | askus | No further disks can be added. |
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| 06:20.14 | jaggz-d | no clue |
| 06:20.18 | jaggz-d | sowry |
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| 06:44.20 | rryoumaa | i am getting "gave up waiting for root device" and "alert! /dev/mapper/...crypt does not exist!" i think this maybe occurred because my boot partition got corrupted and i restored it from backup. |
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| 06:47.06 | Stefan___ | hi |
| 06:48.17 | Stefan___ | i've look in debian website, and google few times but i can't find the download for the testing version of debian. |
| 06:48.50 | Stefan___ | it is sooo weird |
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| 06:49.28 | Stefan___ | joncrunchbang: hi |
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| 06:50.03 | rryoumaa | Stefan___: most people install stable and upgrade |
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| 06:50.48 | Stefan___ | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/jessie_di_beta_2/amd64/iso-cd/debian-jessie-DI-b2-amd64-netinst.iso |
| 06:51.39 | jeezy | i used that image the other day |
| 06:51.45 | jeezy | well yesterday morning |
| 06:52.15 | Stefan___ | what is the minimum memory for debian 8 |
| 06:52.23 | Stefan___ | 128M will work? |
| 06:52.48 | sexyboy | it will |
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| 06:53.29 | sexyboy | base debian with base services takes around 30 mb |
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| 06:54.18 | Simplar | Why kernel modules are incompatible with newer kernels? |
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| 06:54.48 | sexyboy | what |
| 06:55.14 | sexyboy | newer kernels come with compatibile modules |
| 06:56.58 | Simplar | For example, a wifi card Ralink Mediatek MT7630-PCIe is not seen on 3.16 kernel. |
| 06:57.39 | sexyboy | did you upgrade firmware too? |
| 06:57.58 | sexyboy | look what is in your dmesg |
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| 06:59.14 | Simplar | http://www.mediatek.com/en/downloads/mt7630-pcie/ |
| 06:59.23 | Simplar | here, it requires such driver |
| 07:00.11 | sexyboy | i cat help you now im on a mobile device |
| 07:00.12 | Simplar | but it's for 3.13-3.14 |
| 07:00.37 | Simplar | incompatible with 3.16+ :\ |
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| 07:00.53 | tortib | hello everyone. |
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| 07:01.17 | sexyboy | but look for the driver in your kernel package and remember to keep your firmware up to date |
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| 07:02.13 | sexyboy | if the driver is differently licensed then it wont be included in kernel code |
| 07:02.44 | tortib | I'm running Debian 7 Wheezy with ISPConfig3 and I'm having a problem. Whenever I create a site with ispconfig3 the folders are being created with 711 permissions instead of 775 or 755. I checked the code in the ISPConfig3 section and it's set to 755 so I changed it to 775 and it still creates the dir as 711 permissions. Can someone please offer any assistance? |
| 07:02.56 | sexyboy | so it'll be up to the manufacturer |
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| 07:04.26 | klys | please remind me how to do gpg add for apt-gpg |
| 07:04.46 | sexyboy | !gpg |
| 07:04.46 | dpkg | [gpg] GNU Privacy Guard (GnuPG, GPG) is free public-key encryption program, an alternative to <PGP>. Packaged for Debian as gnupg and gnupg2. http://gnupg.org/ #gnupg on irc.freenode.net. |
| 07:05.03 | sexyboy | !apt-gpg |
| 07:05.08 | sexyboy | bah |
| 07:05.36 | klys | tortib, umask? |
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| 07:05.48 | tortib | klys: I checked that it's set to 022 |
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| 07:06.46 | tortib | I'm quite perplexed about this issue |
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| 07:07.25 | klys | if umask stays 022 throughout the scripts and install is not used then it should come out 755. |
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| 07:08.55 | askus | Sorry, my connection. |
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| 07:09.11 | askus | Kevin: my connection nroke |
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| 07:14.09 | jeezy | tortib: |
| 07:14.14 | tortib | ? |
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| 07:14.27 | jeezy | i didnt know you deb'd :) good to see you here pal |
| 07:14.38 | tortib | yeah my dedi is deb |
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| 07:15.28 | tortib | jeezy: any idea about my problem? |
| 07:15.46 | tortib | It just started happening out of the blue and ISPConfig3 seems to be the way it always has been |
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| 07:16.58 | jeezy | tortib: im running |
| 07:16.58 | jeezy | Linux magazine 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt2-1 (2014-12-08) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 07:17.14 | tortib | Linux tortibshells.com 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.63-2+deb7u1 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 07:17.52 | jeezy | ooh |
| 07:17.53 | jeezy | stable :) |
| 07:18.16 | jeezy | tortib: i am really enjoying this debian box; it's my dual XEON dell workstation |
| 07:18.21 | tortib | nice |
| 07:18.25 | jeezy | ssd+SCSI |
| 07:18.30 | tortib | dayum |
| 07:18.36 | sexyboy | https://www.dropbox.com/s/v8jhye990x7ko0s/055.jpg |
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| 07:18.44 | sexyboy | whoops, sorry, wrongh channel |
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| 07:18.53 | tortib | lol sexyboy |
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| 07:33.15 | klys | n'where is the repository index file? |
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| 07:33.40 | klys | I did this: http://en.kioskea.net/faq/809-debian-apt-get-no-pubkey-gpg-error |
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| 07:46.53 | klys | ok it worked out ok |
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| 07:56.36 | r3n1c0n | yo |
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| 08:13.22 | jayanth | hello |
| 08:13.26 | jayanth | anyone there ? |
| 08:13.31 | jayanth | i got a problem |
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| 08:14.01 | jayanth | i downloaded a copy of debain cd iso file from the debian servers |
| 08:14.06 | jayanth | it's not booting |
| 08:14.13 | jayanth | what should i do ? |
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| 08:16.42 | eXistenZNL | did you put it in your pc? |
| 08:17.45 | eXistenZNL | this might sound stupid but im trying to make you aware weve got no idea and you should describe as acurately as possible, e.g. did you press the key to select the boot device? |
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| 08:23.29 | klys | try changing the boot order to cdrom first |
| 08:23.50 | klys | you may have to press f10 or del to enter setup |
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| 08:24.53 | klys | I think what you need is bios setup |
| 08:25.16 | klys | also make sure you burned it correctly (nero should know what an .iso is) |
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| 08:34.20 | Tabulation | klys, I can't access bios setup. |
| 08:34.44 | Tabulation | No key works |
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| 08:39.09 | klys | start pressing it early and don't let go till it finished hdd check |
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| 08:47.53 | ZorroT | having some trouble with an installation -- netinst of 7.7.0-amd64 on a core 2 duo laptop (dell d620) |
| 08:47.56 | ZorroT | installation went fine |
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| 08:48.26 | ZorroT | grub comes up, but when you select either option (normal or recovery boot), a brief flash of start information, then it just hangs. can't get to a prompt, etc. blank screen. |
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| 08:49.12 | ychaouche | Hello |
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| 08:50.36 | petn-randall | ZorroT: When you in grub, press 'e', then remove the 'quiet' option from the kernel line. Boot with that, and you'll see any error messages that might come up. |
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| 08:52.43 | ZorroT | petn-randall: did so... |
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| 08:52.49 | ZorroT | exactly the same behavior |
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| 08:53.01 | ZorroT | a brief blast of dmesg-looking output messages, then a blank screen and nothing |
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| 08:54.01 | ychaouche | I am a bit confused about the use of dpkg. I read in the official doc : "Do not install random packages by dpkg -i <random_package>". Does it mean don't use dpkg preferably or does it mean don't trust just any package you find on the net ? |
| 08:54.21 | jaggz-d | anyone have a script that lists installed packages? |
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| 08:55.05 | andry | dpkg --get-selections, jaggz? |
| 08:55.06 | dpkg | no idea, andry |
| 08:55.14 | andry | :P |
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| 08:55.20 | petemc | ychaouche: installing random packages essentially gives the person who created package root on your system |
| 08:55.22 | jaggz-d | andry, any way to get the install times included on that? |
| 08:55.45 | ychaouche | petemc: so there's no problem mixin apt-get with dpkg |
| 08:55.51 | andry | grep package /var/log/dpkg.log |
| 08:56.16 | jaggz-d | a log probably will be an issue as I'd then need to parse out removals.. |
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| 08:56.46 | petemc | ychaouche: not exactly, there would be the risk of damaging the consistency of the packaging system installing random but trusted packages |
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| 08:57.22 | jaggz-d | This script used to work, but I guess there are changes: http://pastebin.com/HFUqn9dc |
| 08:57.35 | jaggz-d | it's a python script that'd list the currently installed packages with their times |
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| 09:00.03 | andry | or .. grep 'installed pflogsumm' /var/log/dpkg.log | awk '{print $1" "$2}' | tail -n1 |
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| 09:17.43 | jaggz-d | andry, is that for just the one package pflogsumm? |
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| 09:18.13 | jaggz-d | another person here has a python script, which no longer works (or only worked on ubuntu): http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17541415/how-do-i-programmatically-get-a-list-of-packages-from-apt |
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| 09:18.41 | jaggz-d | I guess I could just script the parsing of the log file... sigh |
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| 09:24.38 | jaggz-d | andry, what's the format of this? I see "install" lines and "installed" lines.. |
| 09:24.58 | jaggz-d | install is the command.. and when completed we get "installed".. hmm.. yeah. nevermind. |
| 09:25.01 | jaggz-d | thanks |
| 09:25.10 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps , am not at home and i am upgrading a system, how can i verify that Xorg is working fine and the grub is setup properly remotly without rebooting? |
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| 09:42.13 | afidegnum | hello good morning... all, any debian programmers around? |
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| 09:43.21 | phre4k | I have a few Debian machines and want to install a few additional ones. There are three approaches which came to my mind: 1) dd and then changing the hostname, 2) pre-seeding, 3) metapackage with config files. Which of the three should I choose? |
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| 09:44.10 | phre4k | a few meaning 5 machines configured and 5 to go. Until now I just installed Debian normally and copied the config files. |
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| 09:47.02 | afidegnum | phre4k: what do you mean debian machines? what's their specs ? :) |
| 09:47.40 | ychaouche | petemc: ok but suppose you want to install a package that's not in the debian archive. I have downloaded this software (jailkit) which provides the necessary tools to create a debian archive (.deb). What are my options to install it ? |
| 09:47.56 | phre4k | afidegnum: does that matter? Standard Dell x86 machines (model name Dell OptiPlex 3020 if you need it) |
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| 09:49.13 | afidegnum | oooh, sorry |
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| 09:49.15 | repxxl | http://i.imgur.com/Jelngea.png nginx + php-fpm i get the messy headers on apache + php module i don't get any pro guy know why ? |
| 09:49.25 | afidegnum | phre4k: I was thinking python machines :D |
| 09:49.31 | phre4k | The best option I could imagine would be a script which uses a certain VM as "blank", create an install CD with passwd, /etc etc. completely populated and just asks me for the hostname upon installing |
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| 09:50.56 | afidegnum | I just installed one recently |
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| 10:10.55 | repxxl | http://i.imgur.com/Jelngea.png nginx + php-fpm i get the messy headers on apache + php module i don't get any pro guy know why ? |
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| 10:16.07 | Iridos | ychaouche, point is also... if you install packages that are in debian, you can just juse apt-get. If you install other packages, they're not made for debian or made for debian but with poor quality. Also nobody will test them for upgrades to the next stable distribution and so you will likely run into problems with them |
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| 10:19.32 | Iridos | ychaouche, debian has one of the biggest collections of software compared to other distributions... so I usually have little difficulties just using debian packages... if you really need to install other things you have the choice of making a package (with the same caveat for upgrades) or you could just install without a package in e.g. /usr/local/softwarename-1.4.3 ... there are things like stow to help you with that. (for more info do apt-cache show stop |
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| 10:20.24 | Iridos | uh, actually usrlocal is a bit bullshit, debian packages won't touch /usr/local |
| 10:21.17 | Iridos | you still get a mess if you install lots of things into /usr/local instead of /usr/local/sofwarename |
| 10:21.34 | ychaouche | Iridos: is gdebi safe to use though ? |
| 10:22.21 | ychaouche | From what I understand people discourage the use of dpkg because it doesn't install dependencies and that might leave your system in unstable state (broken dependencies) |
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| 10:26.32 | ychaouche | ok, I thought there was more serious threat. It won't necessarily break the system but could do weired / poorly engineered things. |
| 10:26.50 | ychaouche | and debian won't be responsible for that, of course. |
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| 10:27.07 | Iridos | well, what do you consider as "break the system" |
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| 10:27.26 | Iridos | I'd say introducing dependencies that don't make sense would do exactly that |
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| 10:28.32 | Iridos | at which point apt might refuse to install or uninstall anything |
| 10:28.59 | Iridos | (until that package is removed and it cannot remove the package because its postinstall script is broken - for example) |
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| 10:36.44 | Bluewolf | Hi all Is there a command which can display specs on my power supply by any chance? |
| 10:37.21 | Iridos | probably not |
| 10:37.30 | Iridos | dpkg, what's my hardware |
| 10:37.30 | dpkg | You can use lspci, lsusb, lsscsi, lspcmcia, lshal, hwinfo, dmidecode, and/or lshw, or even dmesg to find out what kind of hardware your machine might have, or you could crack the lid and look inside ... oooh, shiny! If you install lshw, run "lshw -html > myhardware.html" as root and you'll have a nice HTML summation. See also <myram>, <driver locator>. |
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| 10:38.39 | Iridos | it's not pci, usb, scsi ... and it has to be there before dmesg can start recording, so I only see the crack-the-lid-open variant succeeding |
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| 10:41.02 | Bluewolf | Iridos: I'd rather not crack the lid :D |
| 10:41.04 | Bluewolf | I'm not to familiar with commands which would I use exactly? |
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| 10:44.37 | Iridos | they are listed above... and I don't see they would tell you this specific thing |
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| 10:45.50 | Bluewolf | Iridos: So as simple as - lspci? |
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| 10:49.19 | Iridos | tias |
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| 10:50.35 | Bluewolf | Iridos: Thanks :D |
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| 10:51.21 | lessless | hello folks! it looks like there is no ffmpeg in jessie and so here is a question to ask - how to convert mp4 to mp3? |
| 10:51.52 | lessless | I try mp4extract but it has some weird output `mp4extract version -r` and not doing any action at all |
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| 10:52.29 | SynrGy | or just install ffmpeg from sid |
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| 10:53.54 | babilen | lessless: Or use libav-tools |
| 10:54.42 | SynrGy | or that |
| 10:54.59 | SynrGy | but since he said "no ffmpeg in jessie" i assumed perhaps he knew about it |
| 10:55.07 | lessless | babilen, oh cool |
| 10:55.15 | lessless | nope, I didn't knew about libav :) |
| 10:55.18 | SynrGy | since ffmpeg is, in fact, a package in jessie ... just a metapackage depending on libav-tools |
| 10:55.23 | SynrGy | ,v ffmpeg |
| 10:55.24 | judd | Package: ffmpeg on i386 -- squeeze-security: 4:0.5.10-1; squeeze: 4:0.5.10-1; squeeze-security-lts: 4:0.5.10-1+deb6u1; squeeze-multimedia: 5:0.7.16-dmo1; squeeze-backports: 6:0.8.6-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 6:0.8.16-1; wheezy-security: 6:0.8.16-1; sid: 7:2.5-1; wheezy-multimedia: 8:1.0.10-dmo1; jessie-multimedia: 10:2.5-dmo1; sid-multimedia: 10:2.5-dmo2 |
| 10:55.32 | SynrGy | er, was |
| 10:55.51 | SynrGy | i guess removed in anticipation of ffmpeg going back in? |
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| 10:56.30 | SynrGy | is clearly behind the times ... and not even certain if RT is going to let ffmpeg back in for the release |
| 10:56.58 | mafKB | anybudddy know max score of 2048? |
| 10:57.16 | mafKB | record held as of now? |
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| 10:57.24 | SynrGy | mafKB: you've reached the debian support channel. do you have a debian support question? |
| 10:57.41 | mafKB | no, thanks. |
| 10:57.50 | SynrGy | then you're in the wrong place. have a nice day |
| 10:58.02 | mafKB | thanks again |
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| 11:01.51 | darsie | hi |
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| 11:02.34 | darsie | Is http://media.steampowered.com/client/installer/steam.deb safe? |
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| 11:03.24 | babilen | judd: v steam |
| 11:03.25 | judd | Package: steam on i386 -- jessie/non-free: 1.0.0.49-1; sid/non-free: 1.0.0.49-1; experimental/non-free: 1.0.0.49-2 |
| 11:03.29 | babilen | darsie: ^ |
| 11:03.35 | babilen | dpkg: tell darsie about steam |
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| 11:05.15 | darsie | Hmm, apt-cache search steam didn't find it. |
| 11:06.16 | darsie | http://paste.debian.net/136628/ |
| 11:06.36 | repxxl | http://i.imgur.com/Jelngea.png nginx + php-fpm i get the messy headers on apache + php module i don't get any pro guy know why ? |
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| 11:06.42 | darsie | ahh, not in wheezy ... |
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| 11:07.12 | berceanu | hi guys i just bought a wacom intuos pen tablet and i see it is not automagically recognized by wheezy :( |
| 11:07.24 | berceanu | what do i need to do in order to get it to work? |
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| 11:08.06 | g00se | Recognized? |
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| 11:09.09 | darsie | babilen: Now I'm asking myself again whether I should add testing/unstable with apt pinning to prefer stable ... |
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| 11:09.46 | berceanu | g00se: i mean, on my other linux box (arch) i just plugged it in and could move the mouse cursor with the pen |
| 11:10.11 | ychaouche | Are packages listed in "Extra packages" when installing with apt-get install all absolutely required packages ? |
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| 11:10.30 | babilen | darsie: No, you shouldn't mix stable with testing or unstable. I'd consider tracking jessie (with sid mixed in (cf. <jsm> -- /msg dpkg jsm)) at this point in the release cycle, but as far as I am aware an upgrade might be a bit tricky right now. |
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| 11:11.53 | crane | hi, i'm trying to build a debian package but i end up always with an empty binary package... :/ can someone take a look at my build process and tell me what is wrong here? http://paste.debian.net/136629/ |
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| 11:13.20 | jelly | crane: if you don't get an answer here, ask in #debian-mentors over on irc.oftc.net |
| 11:13.33 | crane | jelly: thanks for the hint :) |
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| 11:13.49 | jelly | also, isn't ipcalc packaged already? |
| 11:13.52 | jelly | ,v ipcalc |
| 11:13.53 | judd | Package: ipcalc on i386 -- squeeze: 0.41-2; wheezy: 0.41-2.1; jessie: 0.41-4; sid: 0.41-4 |
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| 11:14.00 | jelly | oh, very old |
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| 11:14.26 | crane | jelly: indeed. that's the reason why i would like to update it and try to build my first package ^^ |
| 11:14.37 | darsie | steam_latest.deb is 2.1M, steam_1.0.0.49-1_i386.deb is 816k. |
| 11:14.37 | jelly | and possibly not the same thing at all, seeing as that one is Perl |
| 11:14.59 | crane | jelly: try python-ipcalc |
| 11:15.04 | repxxl | http://i.imgur.com/Jelngea.png nginx + php-fpm i get the messy headers on apache + php module i don't get any pro guy know why ? |
| 11:15.05 | jelly | ,v python-ipcalc |
| 11:15.07 | judd | Package: python-ipcalc on i386 -- sid: 0.3-1; jessie: 0.3-1; squeeze: 0.3-1; wheezy: 0.3-1 |
| 11:15.11 | jelly | ah. |
| 11:15.23 | crane | jelly: even older ;) |
| 11:15.36 | berceanu | g00se: so? :) |
| 11:17.39 | beagleburt | "/msg dpkg guidelines |
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| 11:25.23 | Tabulation | Is it normal that the acpi-support-base configuration takes a looong time, or is my installation failing ? |
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| 11:31.04 | EdePopede | is it possible to simulate a situation like "apache and php are not installed yet" with aptitude? or would i have to set up a vm? |
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| 11:31.55 | mardraum | what do you mean, "yet" |
| 11:32.28 | EdePopede | like after basic install of debian |
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| 11:34.38 | EdePopede | i want to work out dependencies, but this doesn't work if packages are installed. atm here mpm-worker is installed, conflicts with php5. on the other side i can't select mpm-itk or whatever and see what is autoselected |
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| 11:35.26 | newbsduser | hello, how can i see process list of specific cpu core? ... for instance: whic pids are using cpu core 7? |
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| 11:36.27 | Tabulation | Look up the documentation for dpkg. If it exists. |
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| 11:38.04 | EdePopede | http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Apache_configuration#Debian-based_Linux says: # apt-get install apache2 libapache2-mod-php5 php5-cli php-apc php5-mcrypt <<<< ... and according to #httpd the method is outdated, mod-php SHOULD NOT be used, instead of this http://wiki.apache.org/httpd/PHP-FPM is recommended -- on apache 2.4 |
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| 11:39.45 | NoReflex | hello! I'm trying to find out which version of Debian can be used under MS Hyper-V so that features like dynamic memory will work; currently my VM (Debian wheezy) has the following memory setup: Startup: 1024; Minimum: 1024; Maximum: 16384 but it never allocates more than 1024 MB |
| 11:39.48 | EdePopede | and the dpkg bot doesn't really recommend backporting 2.4 to wheezy (not a fast solution either) |
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| 11:40.52 | Elirips | Hello. Where can I find the net install iso for debian 7.7 64bit? I'm browsing stuff on the mirror http://mirror.switch.ch/ftp/mirror/debian/ but.. where.. is it? |
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| 11:41.39 | nwe | Elirips: ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/Linux/distributions/debian-cd/7.7.0/amd64/iso-cd/debian-7.7.0-amd64-netinst.iso (sedish mirror) |
| 11:41.58 | Elirips | nwe: hank you |
| 11:42.01 | Elirips | +t |
| 11:42.06 | NoReflex | current kernel version is: 3.2.0-4-amd64 |
| 11:42.31 | epsilon | Elirips: next time: debian.org -> netinstall |
| 11:42.44 | Iridos | newbsduser, "man ps"? |
| 11:42.57 | Elirips | epsilon: yes, then it starts a download which would take 20 houres (I cannot use torrents) |
| 11:43.21 | Iridos | newbsduser, ps -eo psr,pid,user,command |grep '^ *7' |
| 11:43.37 | sandman13 | Elirips: netinstall iso 20 hours? |
| 11:43.40 | Elirips | epsilon: ah okay, now I see. I could copy the link from debian.org and from that see where on the mirror things are |
| 11:44.00 | Elirips | sandman13: yes, if donwloading from http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.7.0/amd64/iso-cd/debian-7.7.0-amd64-netinst.iso - from sunset.se it was < 2min |
| 11:44.28 | babilen | dpkg: tell Elirips -about firmware image |
| 11:44.45 | babilen | Elirips: You might like to use the netinstall image with firmware (which is required by certain hardware) |
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| 11:45.08 | Elirips | babilen: thx too. I need to install it on a virtual machine (vmware), lets see |
| 11:45.19 | babilen | You shouldn't require firmware in that case |
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| 11:51.23 | EdePopede | how do i get the content out of a .deb archive? mc uses: dpkg-deb --fsys-tarfile $qarchive | tar xOf - $qfilename ./$qfilename > $qdestfile 2>/dev/null |
| 11:51.24 | smhar | greetings |
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| 11:52.11 | EdePopede | but i think i also found something in the manpage for 'deb' -- and since it is a ar file, would also using ar work? and then tar to get contents and control |
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| 11:53.52 | smhar | today when I turned on the computer I got several errors related to one of my harddisks. These errors include "Buffer I/O error on device sdc1" and "Bad magic number in super-block" |
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| 11:58.05 | cisco987_2 | hello |
| 11:58.25 | cisco987_2 | i was wondering, what does it mean ckt2 ?;o |
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| 11:58.51 | babilen | cisco987_2: context? |
| 11:59.26 | smhar | I commented out this fs in the fstab file so I can boot. Then I tried to restore the magic number using "fsck.ext4 -n /dev/sdc" and then "e2fsck -b #### /dev/sdc" using the block numbers from the previous command. But I got "Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sdc" |
| 11:59.39 | cisco987_2 | babilen, Preparing to unpack .../linux-headers-3.16.0-4-amd64_3.16.7-ckt2-1_amd64.deb ... |
| 11:59.39 | babilen | smhar: Create backups *now*. Use smartctl to check your disk's health (values and tests), order a replacement and plan for downtime |
| 12:00.04 | darsie | steam no work without extra effort on stable. |
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| 12:01.00 | smhar | babilen, how? I can not seem to access the drive :( |
| 12:02.03 | babilen | smhar: In that case: order a replacement, reinstall, restore from older backups |
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| 12:02.41 | berceanu | i need some help setting up a wacom tablet in wheezy |
| 12:02.48 | babilen | cisco987_2: It's a kernel branch and short for "canonical kernel team" -- https://lists.debian.org/debian-kernel/2014/11/msg00154.html |
| 12:03.14 | berceanu | the only resource i found is https://wiki.debian.org/WacomTablets |
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| 12:06.47 | berceanu | please, anyone? |
| 12:06.53 | smhar | babilen, whwn attempting mounting, I get: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/sdc1 missing codepage or helper program, or other error |
| 12:07.28 | smhar | babilen, I will do that, but I am hoping to rescue the files if possible |
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| 12:08.32 | smhar | babilen, dmesg says -among other things- : EXT4-fs (sdc1): can't read group descriptor 8 |
| 12:09.08 | cisco987_2 | thanks babilen |
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| 12:15.26 | smhar | The least I want is to rescue the data then I can retire the drive... as it seems out of service |
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| 12:20.42 | berceanu | tnx |
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| 12:31.05 | Iridos | berceanu, that wiki page seems heavily outdated... I think you should be able to just plug it in and it works (as you expected it to) |
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| 12:31.34 | Iridos | berceanu, watch what new messages appear in the output of dmesg when you plug it in |
| 12:31.40 | phre4k | the screen resolution of one of my PCs is 1600x900 but Debian always recognizes it as virtual 1600x1024. That makes the display scroll (wtf?). Looked into the Xorg.0.log and found "Unable to estimate virtual size" â why that warning? |
| 12:32.17 | phre4k | however the following is also in the logs: VESA(0): Setting up VESA Mode 0x17F (1600x900) |
| 12:32.35 | Iridos | if the mode exists, just switch to it? |
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| 12:32.52 | Iridos | check what modes exist with xrandr on the commandline |
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| 12:33.35 | Iridos | probably easiest way to permanently select a different mode is probably to use some gome tool (that is basically a frontend or re-implementation of xrandr) |
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| 12:37.32 | ThreadKiLL | what doe's this error mean " error while loading shared libraries: libnsl.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory " |
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| 12:39.13 | Iridos | ThreadKiLL, that the file libnsl.so.1 does not exist |
| 12:39.30 | phre4k | Iridos: I can't expect all of my users to switch to the correct resolution. |
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| 12:42.30 | ThreadKiLL | Iridos what particular package to i need to install? |
| 12:42.34 | phre4k | xrandr says "can't open display" when run over SSH |
| 12:42.51 | Iridos | and that surprises you? |
| 12:43.09 | phre4k | shouldn't it at least display the attached outputs? :D |
| 12:43.51 | Iridos | phre4k, guess you can do something like xrandr --output VGA1 --mode 1600x900 as part of the login... or figure out where the gnome display manager thingy stores its preferred config and copy that over? |
| 12:43.52 | phre4k | ThreadKiLL: you have to install libc6 (source: https://packages.debian.org/cgi-bin/search_contents.pl?word=libnsl.so.1) |
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| 12:44.36 | phre4k | Iridos: If I have to set the mode I'd just use an xorg.conf, but I want to know why the resolution is wrong in the first place? |
| 12:44.42 | Iridos | ThreadKiLL, it's in libc6 ... and that's something that should (well, must) be already installed... so apparently whatever you call is looking in the wrong place for some reason |
| 12:45.19 | Iridos | phre4k, but that would be something that the specific driver is responsible for? and so guess would be it doesn't play nicely with your hardware? |
| 12:46.44 | phre4k | Iridos: well, the driver would be the intel driver... |
| 12:47.12 | phre4k | what bugs me is that it recognizes the right mode but then fails to automatically set it |
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| 12:48.03 | berceanu | Iridos: in the end I followed this post http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=112771 |
| 12:48.10 | Iridos | phre4k, apropos bugs... you should/could check bugs.debian.org ... probably it'd be bugs.debian.org/xorg (argh, that'll be fun) |
| 12:48.17 | berceanu | Iridos: and it now seems to work, after manually installing the driver |
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| 12:49.01 | Iridos | judd, versions libwacom-common |
| 12:49.02 | judd | Package: libwacom-common on i386 -- wheezy: 0.6-1; sid: 0.8-1; jessie: 0.8-1 |
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| 12:49.34 | Iridos | berceanu, yeah, seems even the one in sid is quite old |
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| 12:50.33 | Iridos | berceanu, I think it shouldn't be a big problem putting it in there manually... of course, it'll be missing on the next kernel update |
| 12:50.34 | berceanu | Iridos: at least now i understand why on arch it worked out of the box |
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| 12:51.03 | berceanu | outdated drivers :) |
| 12:51.12 | Iridos | and outdated wiki page |
| 12:51.46 | Iridos | seems nobody much is interested anymore... |
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| 12:52.34 | phre4k | Iridos: should I post in the Debian forums? |
| 12:52.45 | phre4k | Iridos: I can't seem to find any bug |
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| 12:54.17 | phre4k | holy shit, I think the monitor is reporting a wrong preferred resolution. Are there firmware updates for monitors? :o |
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| 12:55.26 | trewas | phre4k: looks like you are using vesa-driver, or at least "VESA(0): Setting up VESA Mode 0x17F" comes from vesa driver, not intel... that might cause some problems |
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| 12:56.51 | phre4k | trewas: so how do I use intel if it's already installed and should be used? I'll paste the whole xorg.0.log, wait a sec |
| 12:57.59 | phre4k | https://paste.kde.org/pu1lenazs/1lqjel |
| 12:59.55 | phre4k | oh, I just found the following: "open /dev/fb0: No such file or directory" â could that be the problem? So I may reconfigure X11 or the like? |
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| 13:01.30 | trewas | that should matter only to fbdev, so it shouldn't matter |
| 13:02.06 | trewas | maybe the intel driver / X is just too old for your hardware, logs show that it loads the intel driver and then goes on to use vesa anyway |
| 13:02.52 | phre4k | hm, where do I check which intel driver I need? |
| 13:03.11 | phre4k | I'm using wheezy, so I thought the driver was somewhat "current" |
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| 13:04.33 | phre4k | I have version 2:2.19.0-6 of xserver-xorg-video-intel and lspci says "VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Device 041e (rev 06)" |
| 13:04.36 | Elirips | Hm, I just see that ffmpeg has been replaced by lidbav. Is there also a replacement for ffserver in libav? |
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| 13:04.49 | trewas | phre4k: wheezy was frozen about two and a half years ago, if the computer is much newer than that then it probably won't work directly |
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| 13:06.47 | phre4k | ah, sudo lspci -vk|grep -A 10 VGA tells me there's no specific kernel driver in use. Should I upgrade to a newer kernel? |
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| 13:07.58 | trewas | that might help too, some part of the graphics driver is in the kernel |
| 13:08.33 | phre4k | http://forum.kodi.tv/showthread.php?tid=176561 says "UPDATE RESOLVED = GET JESSIE, FORGET WHEEZY." which sadly isn't an option since these are corporate desktops. |
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| 13:08.52 | phre4k | Or is jessie already stable enough for corporate usage? I think there are a few annoying bugs. |
| 13:09.21 | phre4k | on the long run I might switch to something newer like... *puke* Ubuntu LTS if that supports my hardware better. |
| 13:09.22 | phre4k | wtf. |
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| 13:11.03 | phre4k | if I use the 3.16-bpo Kernel, do I still have to upgrade the driver? |
| 13:12.33 | jelly | phre4k: you might _try_ using jessie in a testing environment |
| 13:13.19 | phre4k | but it's testing :D I'm concerned about security fixes |
| 13:13.35 | jelly | as far as xmbc, er, kodi, is concerned, it really depends on which part they're missing (kernel? xorg? video-driver for the card? mesa?) |
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| 13:14.28 | jelly | phre4k: indeed, so it's on you to decide |
| 13:15.07 | phre4k | the thing is, I'd really like using Ubuntu but I have concerns about long term stability and system upgrades. |
| 13:15.23 | repxxl | how to get clean nginx, php-fpm |
| 13:15.24 | phre4k | s/U/Xu/ |
| 13:15.35 | jelly | phre4k: well, install 14.04 LTS and hope Canonical keeps existing |
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| 13:16.15 | phre4k | jelly: that's part of my concerns :D also, the upgrade from 12.04 LTS to 14.04 LTS was a bit... rocky? Is that the word? |
| 13:17.05 | phre4k | I have a strong bias towards Ubuntu's bad decisions in the past. |
| 13:17.14 | jelly | as in "rocky horror picture show?" |
| 13:17.44 | jelly | they seem to introduce regressions even in LTS every now and then, but they also seem to fix them |
| 13:17.52 | phre4k | jelly: more as in Rocky Mountains bouldering :D |
| 13:19.00 | phre4k | jelly: I would really like for Debian to have PPAs. |
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| 13:20.17 | repxxl | how to install stable php fpm and nginx to debian |
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| 13:20.30 | jelly | phre4k: wheezy-backports seems to cover most of my needs |
| 13:20.39 | repxxl | just aptitude install nginx php-fpm ? |
| 13:21.09 | Iridos | Elirips, ffmpeg is also in debian-multimedia... |
| 13:21.14 | jelly | repxxl: php5-fpm probably |
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| 13:21.39 | jelly | ,v ffmpeg |
| 13:21.40 | judd | Package: ffmpeg on i386 -- squeeze-security: 4:0.5.10-1; squeeze: 4:0.5.10-1; squeeze-security-lts: 4:0.5.10-1+deb6u1; squeeze-multimedia: 5:0.7.16-dmo1; squeeze-backports: 6:0.8.6-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 6:0.8.16-1; wheezy-security: 6:0.8.16-1; sid: 7:2.5-1; wheezy-multimedia: 8:1.0.10-dmo1; jessie-multimedia: 10:2.5-dmo1; sid-multimedia: 10:2.5-dmo2 |
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| 13:22.07 | jelly | Iridos: the one from sid is installable in jessie if one really needs it |
| 13:22.24 | phre4k | jelly: the point is, I want to use something for my users that's supported but with which I don't have to tinker a lot. Maybe I need to get away from the approach "Debian on everything" and start using Xubuntu on Desktops. |
| 13:23.09 | phre4k | jelly: I'm a sysadmin for startups and I think Xubuntu might be better in the long run. What do you think? Without knowing my users of course |
| 13:23.35 | jelly | phre4k: depends on your experience with both options |
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| 13:24.06 | nully | phre4k: I'm a SysAdmin too. I honestly used to think Ubuntu is better for workstatoins, and Debian is better for servers... |
| 13:24.11 | nully | But that is simply not the case. |
| 13:24.35 | phre4k | jelly: I have ~8y experience with both (I think Ubuntu a bit longer), 4y professionally |
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| 13:24.42 | nully | All Ubuntu does, is make it easy to install non-free blob drivers, which a lot of time do more harm than good. (why does my 3d accel not work? etc) |
| 13:24.44 | phre4k | nully: why that? |
| 13:25.08 | phre4k | nully: but Ubuntu seemingly has a more modern application set |
| 13:25.11 | nully | Because there is nothing specficially in Ubuntu VS Debian that targets the office user more. |
| 13:25.26 | nully | Debian Testing for desktops *shrug* |
| 13:25.38 | jelly | phre4k: I think with both jessie and xubuntu, you'll have to test patches and upgrades in a test enviroment first instead of doing a dist-upgrade/update-manager and hoping for the best |
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| 13:26.21 | jelly | nully: not even testing, jessie. And keep using jessie when it becomes stable |
| 13:26.26 | phre4k | nully: so you propose using jessie? |
| 13:26.29 | nully | phre4k: I manage my workstation/users with fai-project.org It works with debian and ubuntu so *shrug* |
| 13:26.32 | Elirips | Iridos: I'm confused now. debian-multimedia has 1.0.10-dmo1 for wheezy. And deb-multimedia also has 1.0.10-dmo1? Whats the difference? |
| 13:26.39 | nully | that woorks too jelly |
| 13:26.55 | jelly | Elirips: deb-multimedia is just a new name for debian-multimedia |
| 13:26.56 | nully | idk phre4k ;) I mean its probably what i'd end up doin gmaybe. |
| 13:27.07 | phre4k | nully: ty for FAI, didn't know that |
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| 13:27.15 | wheezyPUP | wonders - if I do a fresh install to a partition where I had installed previously... will all the /usr /etc /bin and system directories be overwritten ? replaced, rather than duplicated ? |
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| 13:27.31 | nully | phre4k: you can use puppet or cfengine with fai-project.org to hvae roundtrip configuratoin/install managment. |
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| 13:27.43 | Elirips | jelly: so deb-multimedia.org is now debian-multimedia? |
| 13:27.48 | nully | If you're already using puppet or cfengine you can use fai to do all the grunt work of setting thoes up for you. |
| 13:27.55 | jelly | wheezyPUP: yes, and I think the installer will tell you/ask to overwrite the existing filesystem |
| 13:28.05 | jelly | Elirips: the other way round |
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| 13:29.02 | wheezyPUP | jelly... good... one other question would be... will reinstalling /wipe/ the partition, or, just use available space ? |
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| 13:29.05 | Elirips | jelly: even more confused - but: If I have this in sources.list: deb http://www.deb-multimedia.org wheezy main non-free its fine, not? |
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| 13:29.15 | phre4k | wheezyPUP: yes, that's why it's called "fresh install". If you choose to use the existing file systems for e.g. /home and /var that doesn't get formatted |
| 13:29.40 | phre4k | wheezyPUP: it will reformat the partition, which may be what you meant with "wipe" |
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| 13:30.30 | wheezyPUP | phre4k ...yep... OK I will have to move everything I want to keep then, sounds like... thanks |
| 13:30.37 | jelly | wheezyPUP: not sure, but I think it will just create a fresh filesystem on top. It will look empty but no wiping of all the blocks will take place |
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| 13:32.13 | foormea | hi. i'm quite/very familiar with ubuntu, but very little with debian. i'm installing a debian wheezy as a server. should i expect things to be almost identical, or quite different? if quite different, would you have a guide that shows the main differences between debian and ubuntu? |
| 13:32.26 | Elirips | jelly: On 'https://wiki.debian.org/DebianMultimedia' it says that this page has nothing to do with 'deb-multimedia.org'. You sure thats wrong? |
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| 13:33.00 | tugrik | foormea: are you familiar with Ubuntu desktop or server? |
| 13:33.07 | wheezyPUP | to me, jelly says /maybe/ partition gets replaced... phre4k says /yes/ partition is erased... given which I will take the safe way out :) |
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| 13:34.02 | foormea | tugrik: desktop, but isn't an ubuntu server just a desktop without a GUI? anyway i'm quite/very familiar with CLI |
| 13:34.22 | narbeh | Guys, I have a Debian server, which it's console's tty doesn't show anything. But I have no problem with SSH. What should I do? |
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| 13:35.39 | jelly | Elirips: the Debian Multimedia team, packagers in Debian, have nothing to do with deb-multimedia.org. 'deb-multimedia.org' is a third party repo separate from Debian. |
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| 13:36.12 | Elirips | What do I need in my sources.list to get a decent version of ffmpeg for wheezy? |
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| 13:37.32 | phre4k | wheezyPUP: the file system is created, not the partition erased. |
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| 13:38.33 | phre4k | foormea: I hope you don't put the server on a big uplink to the internet yet. |
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| 13:39.07 | foormea | phre4k: aha. not my plan |
| 13:39.35 | phre4k | foormea: and no, the differences aren't that big. Mostly "older" package versions and some Ubuntu fluff "missing". |
| 13:39.43 | wheezyPUP | phrea4k which sounds to me like... the existing filesystem on that partition must have some main "directory"... but what would that be called there? I could just erase that, and start fresh |
| 13:39.48 | tugrik | then foormea - from memory most things will be as you expect, and IIRC there's a "rosetta stone" like page somewhere that translates between ubuntu and debian and other operating systems for all the key sysadmin actions |
| 13:40.35 | tugrik | and yes, phre4k summarises it nicely - not as up to date, but less fluff; you will have to make more decisions, but thankfully your OS has made fewer decisions without telling you |
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| 13:40.52 | foormea | alright. i was considering using ubuntu or debian, decided to go for debian as i don't need ubuntu's fancy stuff and i'll get more familiar with another distro at the same time... |
| 13:41.00 | foormea | ok so cool, i sholdn't be entirely lost :) |
| 13:41.23 | phre4k | wheezyPUP: okay, let's begin from the start. You have a disk, which is separated into partitions. These partitions now house the file systems. The data is on these file systems. If you delete one link in this chain the following links aren't available. So if you delete the partition, the file system will also be deleted and all files with it. |
| 13:41.38 | tugrik | foormea: oh no, not at all - and debian is well documented online |
| 13:41.50 | phre4k | wheezyPUP: and if you delete only the file system (which the debian installer can/will do if you tell it to) you will still delete the files |
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| 13:42.52 | furhun | RAR |
| 13:43.17 | phre4k | furhun: no, we are .tar.gz here, for rar you may want to join ##windows |
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| 13:43.24 | furhun | Currently the file roller does not seem to support RAR.. it offers to search for packages.. |
| 13:43.42 | furhun | phre4k: overdoer |
| 13:43.51 | phre4k | foormea: what do you want to do anyway? |
| 13:44.04 | foormea | oh, it's just mostly a home file server |
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| 13:44.20 | wheezyPUP | phre4k right... what I WANT to do is keep the partition, but, replace the debian-6 install... or remove that, leaving everything else intact |
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| 13:44.41 | phre4k | foormea: then Debian will be fine. Do you have Linux clients or mixed environment? |
| 13:44.51 | furhun | anyone here who's not a 'i em leenuks geek' and can help me how to get fileroller to open a RAR archive? |
| 13:44.59 | foormea | should be mosty linux. |
| 13:45.03 | phre4k | wheezyPUP: so you only have one partition for the whole installation, not a separate /home? |
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| 13:45.35 | phre4k | wheezyPUP: in this case you copy all of your files over to an external HDD and copy them back after installing. And this time make a separate partition for /home ;) |
| 13:45.43 | phre4k | furhun: install unrar? |
| 13:46.01 | furhun | phre4k: has no install candidate |
| 13:46.03 | phre4k | furhun: file-roller works very well for me with all kinds of files |
| 13:46.09 | petn-randall | furhun: fileroller should be able to open .rar files if you install unrar or unrar-free. |
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| 13:46.29 | furhun | petn-randall: unrar-free is installing |
| 13:46.42 | furhun | rar, unrar, unrar-nonfree all have no installation cadidate |
| 13:46.46 | petn-randall | furhun: For 'unrar' you have to add the non-free repositories. |
| 13:46.46 | furhun | thanks petn-randall |
| 13:46.54 | phre4k | furhun: unrar-free is perfectly fine |
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| 13:46.57 | phre4k | https://packages.debian.org/de/wheezy/unrar |
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| 13:47.09 | furhun | phre4k: sure.. il go for the free one |
| 13:47.20 | furhun | always hated adding repos.. plus i like going for free stuff when available |
| 13:47.23 | furhun | and one more thing |
| 13:47.41 | furhun | am i the only one who's being increasingly presented with this GLIBC6 error? |
| 13:48.08 | Iridos | foormea, firmware is separated out as "non-free" in debian since wheezy... which is one of the differences and something quite a lot of people run into |
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| 13:48.14 | petn-randall | furhun: What is 'this GLIB6 error'? There are practically thousands. |
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| 13:48.21 | phre4k | foormea: then probably use NFS or SMB2 for file sharing. I have a "dual stack" setup running very well, is a matter of minutes to set up. Have fun :) |
| 13:48.23 | dob1 | hi, i have 2 openvpn configuration with 2 configuration files in /etc/openvpn, i would like to connect to one of them when the system start (and this is just works as it is now) but to the other one i would like to connect/disconnect manually. If i put the configuation file of this vpn on /etc/openvpn it will connect to it at boot |
| 13:48.27 | furhun | hang on.. lemme see.. |
| 13:48.29 | wheezyPUP | phre4k umm... yes... thats what I was in process of doing thank you, and thank you jelly also |
| 13:48.37 | foormea | Iridos: can see taht, handling that right now actually :) |
| 13:49.00 | foormea | phre4k: yes i'm thinking nfs for linux and cifs/smb for the occasional windows computer |
| 13:49.29 | petn-randall | dob1: /etc/default/openvpn has a config option on which vpn tunnels to start. Just change it from 'all' to the name of the one that should go up. |
| 13:49.40 | furhun | the heck. |
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| 13:50.34 | furhun | phre4k: ? |
| 13:50.37 | Iridos | foormea, the bot in here probably has a couple of factoids that are useful for you... e.g. start with /msg dpkg firmware installer (or /msg dpkg firmware images ) - the words in <bracktes> are supposed to be further factoids the bot has |
| 13:50.50 | dob1 | petn-randall, ok the AUTOSTART setting, but to connect/disconnet to the other one? what i have to do? |
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| 13:51.53 | foormea | argh! wish i had seen that one before instead of installing via wire :D (i'm installing on a small alix board that has a intel 2200 wifi chip on it) |
| 13:51.53 | furhun | phre4k: /libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by /usr/share/asadf/aasfdasdf) ... i get it when i try to run, codeblocks, atom, tweakstyle e.t.c. .. in fact.. alot of stuff apparently installs well, but when i try to run in, nothing happens.. if i try via terminal, then i get this error |
| 13:52.05 | foormea | but well, thanks a lot for your help and friendly welcome |
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| 13:52.20 | jelly | furhun: this /usr/share/asadf/aasfdasdf binary was not made for Debian 7 but something else. |
| 13:52.24 | dob1 | petn-randall, maybe /etc/init.d/openvpn start openvpnname ? |
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| 13:52.37 | phre4k | foormea: keep in mind NFS isn't faster than SMBv2 and you want to enable the latter one if possible |
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| 13:52.44 | nyquist_ | o7 |
| 13:53.09 | furhun | jelly: hahaha but hey, im using an OS.. + its llinux.. there just has to be a way.. a workaround.. i mean, i get updates everyday.. how come this libc isnt being updated |
| 13:53.14 | nyquist_ | what do most people use for GUI development here |
| 13:53.26 | foormea | i'll read on smbv2, the name suggets it's samba-related and last i checked smbfs had been renamed cifs... it's been a while since i last looked at all that |
| 13:53.26 | furhun | QtCreator? :P |
| 13:53.38 | phre4k | furhun: do you install DEB files? |
| 13:53.42 | jelly | furhun: yes, it's called "use the OS the packages were built for" |
| 13:53.45 | phre4k | furhun: try installing from repos |
| 13:53.55 | furhun | phre4k: yes |
| 13:53.59 | furhun | jelly: elaborate please? |
| 13:54.15 | jelly | furhun: can you show an actual error message? |
| 13:54.35 | jelly | and the command line that generates it |
| 13:54.41 | furhun | yeah /libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by /usr/share/atom/atom) |
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| 13:54.54 | phre4k | foormea: yeah, that's actually everything right :) don't use smbfs, maybe use x-systemd-automount for clients if possible. |
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| 13:55.26 | jelly | furhun: which command line results in that? |
| 13:55.31 | furhun | atom |
| 13:55.38 | phre4k | furhun: then you have to actually install debian packages instead of Ubuntu packages, like jelly said |
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| 13:56.21 | jelly | furhun: dpkg -S $(readlink -f $(which atom)) -- what does it say, which package is that executable from? |
| 13:56.24 | furhun | phre4k: you mean to say that the debs i use are for ubuntu> |
| 13:56.33 | Iridos | foormea, another difference is that debian had to re-brand firefox and it's called iceweasel (<why iceweasel> for the long story) |
| 13:56.35 | phre4k | furhun: maybe don't try to use a PoS text editor and use sublime text (proprietary) or geany for editing files |
| 13:56.36 | jelly | furhun: that's most likely, yes |
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| 13:56.48 | foormea | phre4k: so you'd recommend me to use cifs even between 2 linux hosts?? |
| 13:56.51 | furhun | usr/bin/atom |
| 13:56.56 | furhun | jelly: |
| 13:57.00 | phre4k | furhun: "Prebuilt versions of Atom are available for OS X 10.8 or later, Windows 7 & 8, RedHat Linux, and Ubuntu Linux." |
| 13:57.04 | jelly | furhun: is that all it said? |
| 13:57.09 | foormea | Iridos: mh mh |
| 13:57.12 | jelly | furhun: no package name? |
| 13:57.34 | furhun | jelly: what? |
| 13:57.45 | furhun | phre4k: yeah i know abt atom.. but CodeBLocks? |
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| 13:57.53 | phre4k | foormea: I use NFSv4 but SMBv2 may be faster than NFS. I just say you should go with installing both and testing the speed or using whichever is easier for you. |
| 13:57.56 | furhun | btw.. i hate sublime text |
| 13:58.04 | three_legs | Hey what should i use for Gnome gui devolpment ? |
| 13:58.04 | furhun | jelly: thats all it resulted |
| 13:58.12 | furhun | jelly: atom: /usr/bin/atom |
| 13:58.13 | furhun | thats it |
| 13:58.21 | phre4k | furhun: aptitude install codeblocks? |
| 13:58.30 | petn-randall | dob1: "openvpn --config /path/to/config" would be one way. I'm not sure if you can start it manually via the init script (try it and see). |
| 13:58.31 | phre4k | three_legs: HTML? :o |
| 13:58.35 | tugrik | foormea: are you familiar with NFS? It's lovely when it "just works" but diagnostics can be a pain IME, I find it best to run both - especially as a home LAN containing multiple operating systems |
| 13:58.56 | petn-randall | Can Windows even do NFS? |
| 13:59.02 | jelly | furhun: well, then /usr/bin/atom isn't packaged, and it's likely to be built for a different distro |
| 13:59.02 | furhun | phre4k: i think i never tried any apt with codeblocks... pont |
| 13:59.05 | phre4k | foormea: tugrik is right :) |
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| 13:59.27 | jelly | furhun: ask the vendor to build for Debian 7, if that's what you have installed |
| 13:59.30 | phre4k | furhun: if you want to have bleeding-edge packages, why don't you install Arch instead of Debian |
| 13:59.32 | furhun | jelly: you are probably right.. but can you tell me what it means and what it should have shown if it were? |
| 13:59.56 | foormea | tugrik, phre4k: okay, i'll do that :) |
| 13:59.57 | jelly | furhun: if it were packaged, dpkg -S would have said which package it belonged to |
| 14:00.06 | three_legs | phre4k: lol i meant like a gui designer... |
| 14:00.18 | foormea | usually, would you recommend to disable root login and do it ubuntu's style via sudoing from a user? |
| 14:00.19 | furhun | jelly: example |
| 14:00.25 | jelly | furhun: dpkg -S $(which ls) |
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| 14:01.08 | tugrik | furhun: Arch is a good OS, and definitely the way to go if you want bleeding-edge, there's a good community there too IME ; if you go down that route do spend some time reading the introductory documentation on the website... it'll save you time later |
| 14:01.16 | tugrik | I may or may not have learnt that lesson the hard way ;) |
| 14:01.18 | furhun | jelly: coreutils: /bin/ls thats what it says |
| 14:01.38 | furhun | tugrik: Arch id love to try and play with but definitely not what i can use as a primary OS.. |
| 14:01.45 | tugrik | foormea: I'd have a separate root account, more because it's good to see the separation than anything else |
| 14:01.46 | jelly | furhun: indeed. /bin/ls comes in the coreutils package |
| 14:02.31 | narbeh | Guys, I have a Debian server, which it's console's tty doesn't show anything. But I have no problem with SSH. What should I do? |
| 14:02.36 | jelly | !tell furhun about search |
| 14:02.38 | narbeh | Guys, I have a Debian server, which it's console's tty doesn't show anything. But I have no problem with SSH. What should I do? |
| 14:02.50 | foormea | tugrik: ok |
| 14:02.58 | jelly | narbeh: press a key on the console and see if it unblanks |
| 14:03.09 | narbeh | jelly: no |
| 14:03.23 | petn-randall | narbeh: Does ctrl+alt+F1 switch to a terminal? |
| 14:03.27 | tugrik | foormea: there's a definite security benefit as well, but I'm hoping your home LAN is "technically" hostile rather than actually hostile |
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| 14:03.38 | furhun | jelly: so basically everything i wish to use on debian will come from like a package that bundles several binaries? |
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| 14:03.45 | narbeh | petn-randall: didn't test that. What if it fails? |
| 14:04.02 | jelly | furhun: correct |
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| 14:04.10 | petn-randall | narbeh: If it fails you'll be where you started. |
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| 14:04.24 | furhun | jelly: that applies to debian only? |
| 14:04.29 | narbeh | petn-randall: what if it won't work ? |
| 14:04.42 | petn-randall | narbeh: Have you tried it yet? |
| 14:04.54 | furhun | jelly: but hey, what if something isnt in those packages? what if i install something from a deb .. it could have its own package... shouldnt that work too? |
| 14:04.57 | jelly | furhun: all linux distros have similar setups with a package management system of some sort |
| 14:05.22 | narbeh | petn-randall: no , I should go there and test, I want to know other choices |
| 14:05.23 | jelly | furhun: it should work, if it was built for that distro |
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| 14:05.47 | furhun | jelly: hmm. thanks.. |
| 14:05.50 | furhun | jelly: |
| 14:06.06 | petn-randall | narbeh: Log in via ssh and check the /var/log/kern.log for errors. Also check if the cabling is right, the monitor works, etc. |
| 14:06.31 | narbeh | petn-randall: ok thanks |
| 14:06.49 | petn-randall | narbeh: A terminal is fairly basic stuff, so if it doesn't work there's no straight-forward answer to 'why is it broken?' |
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| 14:08.40 | dob1 | petn-randall, yes but this will run the openvpn service as root? |
| 14:09.02 | narbeh | petn-randall: thank you |
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| 14:10.05 | tugrik | narbeh: I'm with petn-randall, I think we're at the "check the pins in your VGA cable" stage ;) |
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| 14:13.09 | repxxl | can i remove all packages but keep base when it was installed like keep ssh and thats all :D |
| 14:13.15 | foormea | okay all, thanks again for your help and warm welcome. talk later! -- |
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| 14:13.43 | Twinkletoes | Just advice on the generally accepted way of doign things... is it normal to copy the certificate files in place for apache, or keep them in root's folder and harlink them? |
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| 14:15.56 | phre4k | three_legs: https://glade.gnome.org/ (source: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=gnome+3+gui+dev+tools) |
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| 14:16.03 | SirLagz | Twinkletoes: I'd copy, and also keep a checksum of em somewhere |
| 14:16.12 | Twinkletoes | SirLagz: Ok, thanks :) |
| 14:16.22 | phre4k | Twinkletoes: copy them. |
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| 14:16.36 | Twinkletoes | phre4k: Thank you, too |
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| 14:16.53 | phre4k | Twinkletoes: you may also NOT make them chmod 777 :D |
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| 14:17.40 | Twinkletoes | phre4k: Yeah, I've already done chmod go-rwx on the private key |
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| 14:19.27 | bezaban | Twinkletoes: I've started using /etc/ssl/private for private keys and /etc/ssl/localcerts for certificates |
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| 14:19.43 | Twinkletoes | bezaban: That's exactly what I do! |
| 14:19.44 | bezaban | which I assume is what they must be for |
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| 14:19.45 | bezaban | :) |
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| 14:19.53 | phre4k | lol :D |
| 14:20.05 | bezaban | Twinkletoes: seems tidy to me, but I've seen people stick them all over the place |
| 14:20.09 | Twinkletoes | The permissions on that dir are correct anyway |
| 14:20.12 | bezaban | yeah |
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| 14:20.56 | phre4k | can I just copy a few files with preseed? |
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| 14:22.13 | phre4k | I want to copy some pre-modded files in /etc, is that possible without extensive use of sed? |
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| 14:27.34 | EdePopede | seems something went wrong while finally installing the mediawiki with aptitude |
| 14:27.36 | Geraldus | Hi friends! |
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| 14:28.41 | EdePopede | i have 3 running php-fpm, 1 parend, 2 children. presssing [l] on them in htop (shows lsof), just shows they all have no access onto the /proc/*/fd/ directory |
| 14:28.43 | SirLagz | phre4k: I know that copying with pre-seed is possible, but I have no idea how. I'm after the same thing too haha |
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| 14:29.36 | EdePopede | after pressing "gg" in aptitude, download and install started, but there was no "press any key" afer i went back into the ui by pressing enter. so, what could be wrong? |
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| 14:30.35 | Geraldus | I'm facing issue with VirtualBox "Failed to load VMMR0.r0 (VERR_SUPLIB_OWNER_NOT_ROOT)", I have `user:user` ownership over `/usr` folder. I've found one possible solution - change ownership of /usr to root:root, is it alright to change ownership on /usr folder? |
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| 14:32.13 | Geraldus | What is default ownership on Debian 7 on `/usr` folder? |
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| 14:46.00 | repxxl | how is called the apache2 service |
| 14:46.09 | tugrik | Geraldus: I wouldn't advise it |
| 14:46.15 | repxxl | tryed restart httpd / httpd2 / apache / apache2 nothing works |
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| 14:47.23 | Geraldus | tugrik: OK, because I don't changed that ownership by myself, so I suppose this was done by system itself. So I'll try to find another solution or maybe just reinstall VBox/// |
| 14:47.27 | jelly | repxxl: which debian release? |
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| 14:48.15 | repxxl | jelly wheezy and done "aptitude update" and than "aptitude upgrade" |
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| 14:48.31 | repxxl | jelly so i assume im on the last.. |
| 14:48.34 | jelly | repxxl: it's called apache2 there. See -> /etc/init.d/apache2 |
| 14:48.41 | tugrik | does everything work if you start virtualbox as root Geraldus ? |
| 14:49.25 | Geraldus | let me check, I've never used VB as root in past |
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| 14:51.15 | tugrik | for a couple of headless VMs I start VBox as root, that may or may not be the right way to do it... |
| 14:51.28 | Geraldus | tugrik: when I start as root I can't see my virtual machines |
| 14:52.08 | tugrik | try "sux -" to go from user to root? But there might be better advice in the documentations somewhere... |
| 14:53.19 | repxxl | installed apache, php it working how i can get xdebug for php now ? |
| 14:53.34 | Geraldus | tugrik: It worked in past (I have not used VBox quite a while). I believe this issue is related to recent system update. I do not think that using Virtual Box is good solution :) just as in case /usr ownership |
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| 14:54.51 | tugrik | it's worth looking at virtualbox / vmware / qemu and seeing which one suits you, and which one is the easiest to use on your base OS |
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| 14:56.23 | babilen | Geraldus: /usr should be owned by root:root |
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| 14:57.26 | babilen | And I'd recommend to take a look at other solutions than vbox as well (just too slow) -- virt-manager with kvm might appeal to you *iff* you don't have to run the same box on Windows or OSX too. |
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| 14:57.50 | babilen | repxxl: You should, yes. |
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| 14:58.20 | Geraldus | babilen: Can you guess why I have /usr owned by user? |
| 14:58.46 | babilen | I don't see why I should. It is wrong and should be rectified. |
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| 14:59.29 | Geraldus | and where can I read about that (I mean why /usr should be owned by root:root). |
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| 15:00.56 | jaggzed | any of you successfully gotten a nvidia 970 or 980 to work in X? |
| 15:01.19 | Geraldus | babilen: thabk you anyway ) |
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| 15:02.56 | paya | hi all |
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| 15:03.21 | Geraldus | hi paya! |
| 15:03.33 | babilen | Geraldus: It simply is the default, but there might an an authoritative document on that. The error you quoted above (i.e. VERR_SUPLIB_OWNER_NOT_ROOT) is specifically about it not being owned by root. I neither want to nor can I guess why your /usr is not owned by root, but I'd rectify the situation. |
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| 15:04.15 | paya | coming from arch I have a short questions about the repositories and pinning in Debian |
| 15:04.34 | babilen | You very rarely need pinning, but please go on |
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| 15:05.16 | Geraldus | babilen: yes, I just read about philosophy about /usr ownership and permissions, I'll change ownership now. |
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| 15:05.39 | paya | well, I have installed my basic system and now I wanted to add some more repositories to install further packages |
| 15:05.54 | paya | my current source.list > http://paste.debian.net/136673/ |
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| 15:06.19 | EdePopede | how do i use php-fpm on debian 7, since "you use mod_proxy_fcgi to connect httpd to php-fpm" (just learned thatz in #httpd), since mod_proxy_fgci comes with apache 2.4? |
| 15:06.55 | paya | now, after syncing there are arround 20 packages which need to be updated |
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| 15:07.26 | paya | I recognized, that these packages/updates are coming from the new repositories |
| 15:07.31 | babilen | paya: We neither recommend nor support third-party repositories. DMM (debian multimedia) causes frequent problems and is "considered harmful" by a number of people in the Debian community. You don't need firefox as you can get bleeding edge builds of Iceweasel (which *is* FF) from http://mozilla.debian.net and vbox is also packaged in Debian |
| 15:07.55 | Geraldus | OK, thanks you everybody, now Virtual Box works! |
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| 15:08.19 | paya | understood babilen, my questions is if I need to take care with some pinning or not |
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| 15:08.37 | paya | I just want to avoid to have some brocken packages |
| 15:09.20 | babilen | paya: A supported sources.list for wheezy would look like: http://paste.debian.net/136675/ -- You might also consider tracking jessie (in a jessie/unstable mix as detailed in <jsm> -- /msg dpkg jsm) if you are after "newer" software. Not sure if today is a good day for an upgrade (seen issues), but read <sid faq>, <apt-listbugs> and <testing> for an overview. |
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| 15:10.00 | babilen | paya: Your current setup is unsupported and will result in problems sooner or later. This channel also doesn't support that setup and I would advise against it. |
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| 15:11.16 | jaggzed | is there a commandline way to list or search for packages and display their versions/dates too?? |
| 15:11.21 | babilen | paya: Furthermore I would *strongly* advise against using "stable" in your sources.list, but the actual codenames such as "wheezy" due to the fact that these links change. In short: I would consider your current sources.list to not only be unsupported, but also highly problematic and likely to cause you problems. |
| 15:11.31 | jaggzed | apt-cache search just shows the package name.. |
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| 15:12.30 | paya | thx babilen, how one single file can make so much problems ;) |
| 15:12.57 | babilen | paya: Well, it is a rather important one. |
| 15:13.13 | paya | I have no problem to modify my sources.list to keep some problems out |
| 15:13.23 | pppd | hi |
| 15:13.25 | pppd | So I tried to partition using a dreaded limited rescue sysetm. |
| 15:13.27 | pppd | *system |
| 15:13.29 | pppd | Wasn't able to, partprobe command was missing in this 'clean' toolset. |
| 15:13.31 | pppd | Even kernel reboot hadn't solved the problem, kernel locked those vda partitions. |
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| 15:13.37 | pppd | Because partprobe was missing. |
| 15:13.53 | pppd | partx -a /dev/vda wasn't able to help me because of the aforementioned locking. |
| 15:14.49 | paya | just wondering in general, how to keep some repositories (stable & multimedia at min) and if I need to have some pinning or not |
| 15:14.54 | EdePopede | is it possible to deinstall php, apache, all that stuff, so clean as if would never have been installed before? is the purge command enough for this? and what happens woth the downloaded packages then? i don't have a download limit, but it would be practical to use them from the cache here for reinstallation. |
| 15:16.03 | petn-randall | paya: You're mixing repositories that don't even belong to the same distro. Unless you pin everything else to -1, you'll break your system. ;) |
| 15:17.55 | paya | understood :D...here my current pinning > http://paste.debian.net/136676/ |
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| 15:19.23 | paya | not sure if it is correct or not |
| 15:19.31 | pppd | EdePopede: There is also a tool which can detect alien files on the system. |
| 15:19.45 | EdePopede | alien files? |
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| 15:19.56 | pranav | <PROTECTED> |
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| 15:20.27 | babilen | paya: It is not and your setup is unsupported (and a bad idea, why don't you believe us). |
| 15:20.56 | babilen | pranav: Started doing what? :) |
| 15:21.24 | pranav | contributing |
| 15:21.24 | paya | I believe you, this is not the question...so can I keep stable & multimedia without getting problems? |
| 15:21.38 | babilen | no |
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| 15:21.49 | pppd | EdePopede: files that are not registered in any known debian package |
| 15:21.53 | brokencycle | hi! |
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| 15:22.19 | EdePopede | pppd: i don't understand the context |
| 15:22.23 | brokencycle | i'm having massive problems with the combo of gnutls, mutt, postfix and dovecot |
| 15:22.24 | pppd | EdePopede: usually all debian packages are verified being completely removable. But there may be extra files created by services, user, other interaction. |
| 15:22.29 | babilen | pranav: What do you mean by "contributing" ? Do you want to help out in this support channel? Or are you interested in packaging software for Debian? Are you a translator that wants to work on increased language support for Debian? |
| 15:22.36 | pranav | i am new here and really want to learn how to contribute . YES |
| 15:22.41 | brokencycle | these started about today, w/o any updates on either end of the connection |
| 15:22.42 | EdePopede | ah, ok. now i think i got it what you mean |
| 15:22.48 | pppd | EdePopede: you want a clean system back, so remove+purge the packages and run that tool to find any other files which don't belong to the OS... |
| 15:22.56 | babilen | brokencycle: Which release are you tracking? |
| 15:22.57 | petn-randall | brokencycle: How do the problems manifest? |
| 15:23.24 | brokencycle | on the client: wheezy |
| 15:23.33 | brokencycle | on the server: squeeze (yuck, i know) |
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| 15:23.47 | pranav | babilen : i would really like to explore these possibilities :) |
| 15:23.50 | brokencycle | can't do anything about that atm, though |
| 15:24.03 | brokencycle | the problem manifests itself in the following ways:L |
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| 15:24.15 | petn-randall | !enter |
| 15:24.16 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 15:24.44 | pppd | !dot |
| 15:24.44 | dpkg | dot is, like, in debian package graphviz |
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| 15:24.55 | brokencycle | TLS packet with unexpected length received |
| 15:24.55 | pppd | He should say the opposite... |
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| 15:25.06 | pranav | i would be more interested in packaging software for debian . though i have very little knowledge for the same |
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| 15:25.19 | brokencycle | or an error message to similar effect while trying to send email |
| 15:25.40 | brokencycle | so far, recommendations are to recompile mutt against openssl |
| 15:25.46 | brokencycle | but that i'd like to avoid |
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| 15:26.15 | brokencycle | also, the problem happens inconsistently: if i try again 10 times, it will most likely work at some point |
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| 15:26.49 | babilen | pranav: http://mentors.debian.net/intro-maintainers + https://www.debian.org/intro/help + http://raphaelhertzog.com/2011/06/30/how-to-start-contributing-to-debian/ |
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| 15:28.15 | pranav | babilen : thank you for the links :) |
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| 15:34.34 | EdePopede | any suggestions what packages to mark for purge to deinstall apache and php and everything connected to it? the problem is, the files are spread through the package hierarchy and i would like not to overlook some |
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| 15:41.00 | jaggzed | I lost my references from someone in here |
| 15:41.17 | jaggzed | what's a good way to run another linux distribution from within linux? |
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| 15:41.34 | jaggzed | there's docker.. then open-something or other I think? |
| 15:42.28 | EdePopede | apache2-bin looks like a good candidate, depends on a couple of libs including libapr1. i'll trust on "[X] Remove unused packages automatically" i think |
| 15:42.38 | F[]rK | . |
| 15:42.55 | petn-randall | jaggzed: chroot, docker, vagrant, lxc, xen, kvm, qemu, libvirt, virtualbox, etc. pp. Depends on what level of isolation you want to achieve. |
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| 15:43.45 | jaggzed | I want to try booting live cd's (images) of some other os's |
| 15:44.15 | votzlokk | hi guys. I have a question about wheezy-backports |
| 15:44.25 | jaggzed | petn-randall /\__ |
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| 15:44.44 | votzlokk | i need a 3.14 kernel installed from wheezy-backports, but aptitude does not seem to find these at all |
| 15:44.58 | votzlokk | https://packages.debian.org/search?suite=wheezy-backports&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=linux-image-3.14 |
| 15:45.00 | petn-randall | jaggzed: Then virtualbox should be enough. Or virt-manager |
| 15:45.03 | petn-randall | ,kernels |
| 15:45.05 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.18.0-trunk-686-pae (3.18-1~exp1); sid: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt2-1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt2-1); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt2-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.63-2+deb7u2); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.63-2+deb7u2~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze6) |
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| 15:45.47 | petn-randall | votzlokk: Those are only for IA64 architecture. 3.16 is available, though. |
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| 15:46.16 | votzlokk | petn-randall, ah, thanks. Btw, isn't Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU E5-2680 0 @ 2.70GHz IA64? |
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| 15:46.27 | petn-randall | votzlokk: No, it's amd64. |
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| 15:46.53 | babilen | dpkg: why amd64 |
| 15:46.53 | dpkg | The Debian architecture that runs on 64-bit processors from AMD and Intel is called "amd64" because the architecture was first developed by AMD. AMD64 is variously known as x86-64, x64, IA-32e, EM64T and Intel 64 (most of which are the Intel marketing people changing their mind). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/x86-64 |
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| 15:47.09 | petn-randall | votzlokk: The IA64 is a 64 bit x86 arch that never took off. All current CPUs have the 'amd64' architecure. Also what dpkg said. |
| 15:47.35 | votzlokk | petn-randall, thanks a million. Now i got it :) |
| 15:47.45 | petn-randall | votzlokk: You're welcome. |
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| 15:48.45 | EdePopede | "Restarting PHP5 FastCGI Process Manager: php5-fpm" <-- this happens while *uninstalling* apache with dependencies? |
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| 15:49.32 | babilen | EdePopede: Is that a statement or a question? |
| 15:50.01 | EdePopede | this is a wondering. doesn't look logical to me |
| 15:50.24 | EdePopede | especially this fpm seems useless before apache 2.4 |
| 15:50.31 | babilen | EdePopede: Well, does it or doesn't it or don't you know? Are you wondering *why* it does it? |
| 15:50.39 | EdePopede | indeed i do |
| 15:50.42 | babilen | Why would it be useless? |
| 15:50.52 | EdePopede | especially while i try to get rid of all apache+php |
| 15:51.11 | EdePopede | because of some proxy module that is part of apache 2.4 |
| 15:51.17 | babilen | So, remove/purge php5-fpm before you remove/purge apache and the trigger won't be fired. |
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| 15:51.27 | EdePopede | i'll try to refind the sentence |
| 15:52.00 | EdePopede | that one: "you use mod_proxy_fcgi to connect httpd to php-fpm" |
| 15:52.01 | petn-randall | EdePopede: I'm pretty sure you can use php5-fpm with apache2.2. |
| 15:52.12 | EdePopede | noody could tell me how |
| 15:52.20 | EdePopede | so i have to restart at 0 |
| 15:52.27 | petn-randall | EdePopede: That doesn't mean it doesn't work ... |
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| 15:53.04 | EdePopede | meanwhile i sit in 6 channels because of ONE(!) thing i try to make work. after days the only solution is to restart |
| 15:53.23 | vadmeste | Hello everybody. Is there anyone using chromium under debian stable and getting strange render when opening a website like stackoverflow.com ? |
| 15:53.31 | petn-randall | EdePopede: How far did you read the documentation of that package? |
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| 15:54.16 | EdePopede | until i had problems to erad even in xchat. and not only THAT one package, lots of webpages also |
| 15:54.25 | EdePopede | you see how i type now... |
| 15:55.19 | babilen | petn-randall, EdePopede: It is, in fact, pretty easy to use php5-fpm with apache 2.2 |
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| 15:56.52 | petn-randall | agrees with babilen. |
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| 16:00.38 | EdePopede | EVERYTHING is easy, if you know how |
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| 16:03.39 | EdePopede | is it normal that apache-doc and those mentioned libs were not deinstalled automatically? they were marked with 'idA' in purple. i needed a 2nd uninstall run |
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| 16:07.06 | babilen | EdePopede: I don't get it: Is your *actual* question: "How do I have to configure Apache for php5-fpm?" |
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| 16:08.25 | babilen | EdePopede: Other packages might have had a dependency on them or you might have used apt-get for the removal/purge which does not automatically remove "unused" packages. |
| 16:08.31 | EdePopede | babilen: it used to be and it will be later again. (or more exactly: how do i make mediawiki run on apache?) but for the moment it is: how to get rid of the whole related packages to restart. including apache |
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| 16:09.13 | EdePopede | i *always* use aptitude. i can't remember that hoard of programs, for which one does what. |
| 16:09.54 | EdePopede | golden rule: if you are stuck, restart. and thats exactly what i try to do now |
| 16:10.08 | babilen | EdePopede: "aptitude purge '~i~napache2'" would be a start. |
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| 16:10.30 | babilen | (check for packages you don't want to remove, maybe search first, add packages to keep accordingly) |
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| 16:11.59 | EdePopede | xfce, the browser, xterm, mc. ok, and skype (as long as they don't have an open API, no chance for an FLOSS client i think). and alsa of course (and get rid of that other sound system that skype wants now) |
| 16:12.42 | rgr | what about them? You are purging them? |
| 16:12.43 | EdePopede | aptitude has a tree view and a flat view. i can change the leveling in the treeview, but i can't add new views, right? |
| 16:12.50 | babilen | ~i~napache2 does not match skype (not any of the other packages you listed) |
| 16:12.54 | EdePopede | that's abaout all i really need |
| 16:13.29 | EdePopede | oh, and xchat of course :) |
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| 16:14.33 | F[]rK | irssi ftw |
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| 16:15.48 | EdePopede | no time to learn to make it work like xchat. and all those keyboard shortcuts |
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| 16:16.05 | EdePopede | i don't even get into vim |
| 16:16.12 | EdePopede | what i try for years now |
| 16:16.46 | babilen | EdePopede: What does that have to do with the problem you are trying to solve? |
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| 16:17.10 | EdePopede | <F[]rK> irssi ftw <-- reaction on religion? |
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| 16:18.05 | F[]rK | not realy |
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| 16:18.39 | F[]rK | it's simple, yet advance and works fine. |
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| 16:18.55 | EdePopede | it is. people may have good reasons to use the software they use. if you can't accept it, it IS religion |
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| 16:19.11 | EdePopede | oh, another problem |
| 16:19.27 | F[]rK | :) |
| 16:19.59 | babilen | EdePopede: Please, could we stick to support in here and would you mind actually working on a single issue? It is quite confusing trying to support you as you constantly switch contexts and/or problems you are working on. |
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| 16:20.25 | F[]rK | religoin and software doesen't compute :) |
| 16:20.30 | EdePopede | just have seen that parts of the german aptitude manpage is in english. and since i tend to ferget that LANG=C, what was again the sane way to let root have an english environment? |
| 16:21.01 | babilen | configure locales? |
| 16:21.09 | babilen | dpkg: tell EdePopede about locale |
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| 16:21.25 | EdePopede | babilen: guess how confusing it must be for me then. and especially with such nonanswers :/ |
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| 16:22.32 | babilen | EdePopede: I asked you to run "apache purge '~i~napache2'" (or rather "aptitude search '~i~napache2'" to check that it doesn't remove something you'd like to keep). In case you have forgotten. And I don't really want to imagine how confusing it must me for you. |
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| 16:22.46 | petn-randall | EdePopede: Please stick to one problem at a time. If you bring up 10 at once, you'll get none solved. |
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| 16:25.17 | EdePopede | babilen: i tried to read the manpage on that option. RTFM, you know. but partially in english and partially in german. makes heardaches. so emergency problem: create english only context for root. i have enough problems concentrating on ONE language at the moment, swithcing every 10 seconds is not possible |
| 16:26.04 | EdePopede | that locale stuff was btw something i asked when i entered last time. got no answer, just a comment |
| 16:26.21 | babilen | okay, run "dpkg-reconfigure locales", select "en_GB.UTF-8" and set it as default or configure root's bash profile to set the locale to your wishes. |
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| 16:33.22 | EdePopede | which one? .bashrc or .profile? and 'locale -a' has C and C.UTF-8, the latter one then? |
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| 16:37.39 | EdePopede | LANG=de_DE.UTF-8 <-- i guess i have to override only this one, right? |
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| 16:38.52 | pppd | Err http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/main Sources |
| 16:38.53 | pppd | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:38.55 | pppd | repository corrupted? |
| 16:39.03 | eXistenZNL | do wget www.google.com |
| 16:39.09 | eXistenZNL | see if you can use your DNS |
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| 16:39.20 | eXistenZNL | although it resolves |
| 16:40.02 | n0arch | wheezy/updates main |
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| 16:40.44 | eXistenZNL | oh lol n0arch thats it |
| 16:40.53 | n0arch | ;D |
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| 16:42.16 | jelly | pppd: I forced that exact IP for security.debian.org using /etc/hosts, and it works for wheezy/updates, here. |
| 16:42.40 | jelly | pppd: tho I forgot to add deb-src, wait |
| 16:42.42 | pppd | jelly: strange then |
| 16:42.45 | pppd | yes |
| 16:42.46 | pppd | source |
| 16:43.09 | jelly | pppd: ah. I have deb-src already. It works |
| 16:43.16 | pppd | hm |
| 16:43.18 | jelly | are you being MITM'd? |
| 16:43.24 | pppd | hu, scary |
| 16:43.28 | pppd | but secure apt will save me, right? |
| 16:43.32 | jelly | <paranoia> |
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| 16:44.36 | pppd | jelly: There is a van outside |
| 16:44.43 | pppd | they... are... watching... me |
| 16:44.43 | petn-randall | It's a little ironic that s.d.o doesn't have the option to use https ... :) |
| 16:44.44 | jelly | pppd: if will save you from installing incorrectly signed .deb or source, but it won't allow you to download new patches |
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| 16:45.04 | pppd | jelly: How would this translate to the URL?: http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/main Sources |
| 16:45.05 | eXistenZNL | me @ van: surprise m***f***a :D |
| 16:45.11 | pppd | hehe |
| 16:45.22 | pppd | self destruct, escape tunnel |
| 16:45.32 | pppd | watched too many films |
| 16:45.35 | n0arch | im p sure you need a space between updates and main |
| 16:45.39 | n0arch | instead of a slash |
| 16:45.40 | jelly | pppd: try putting the other ip into /etc/hosts, 212.211.132.250 security.debian.org |
| 16:45.40 | pppd | ah |
| 16:45.49 | n0arch | so when it translates to url |
| 16:45.54 | eXistenZNL | thats what n0arch started with :p |
| 16:45.54 | n0arch | it's gettin confused |
| 16:46.00 | pppd | ok |
| 16:46.21 | pppd | PING security.debian.org (212.211.132.250) |
| 16:46.22 | pppd | IP enforced |
| 16:46.24 | pppd | still the same |
| 16:46.41 | pppd | Err http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/main Sources |
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| 16:46.48 | pppd | Err http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/main Sources |
| 16:46.50 | pppd | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:46.57 | pppd | What URL can I try directly in my browser? |
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| 16:47.26 | eXistenZNL | open your /etc/apt/sources.list and change the line so it reads this: |
| 16:47.28 | n0arch | its like security.debian.org/pool/updates/main |
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| 16:47.32 | eXistenZNL | http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates main sources |
| 16:47.44 | eXistenZNL | so, add a space instead of a / between the words updates and main |
| 16:47.47 | eXistenZNL | thats your problem |
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| 16:47.58 | jelly | eXistenZNL: that's not a correct line at all |
| 16:47.59 | EdePopede | is it ok tu put "LANG=C.UTF-8" into ALL startupfiles in /root? seems that .profile was not executed after su (i have a 'mesg n' at the end of the file, but `mesg` tells me 'is y', so it doesn't seem to be executed) |
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| 16:48.08 | n0arch | idk what sources is |
| 16:48.15 | eXistenZNL | yeah remove that part too |
| 16:48.29 | eXistenZNL | remove the word sources too, my bad |
| 16:48.36 | n0arch | you can probably use /etc/profile EdePopede |
| 16:48.49 | eXistenZNL | so make it like this: http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates main |
| 16:48.52 | n0arch | yeah |
| 16:49.03 | eXistenZNL | that should fix it |
| 16:49.10 | jelly | eXistenZNL: still missing deb-src in front |
| 16:49.16 | jelly | deb-src http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates main |
| 16:49.33 | eXistenZNL | lol im the worst copy-paster in human history |
| 16:49.38 | eXistenZNL | indeed, what jelly just wrote. |
| 16:49.42 | eXistenZNL | doing 500 things at once |
| 16:49.44 | jelly | practice makes perfect! |
| 16:49.49 | eXistenZNL | lol |
| 16:49.52 | EdePopede | n0arch: i want the LANG=en for sysadmin only. for when i have to read man pages |
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| 16:50.03 | eXistenZNL | pppd, go with the line that jelly supplied |
| 16:50.05 | n0arch | only for man pages? |
| 16:50.09 | n0arch | or for root |
| 16:50.10 | pppd | These are my apt sources: http://pastebin.com/JdzCALxc |
| 16:50.21 | pppd | Explanation: I upgraded from squeeze to wheezy. |
| 16:50.22 | n0arch | cuz if its root you can just set up a conditional in /etc/profile |
| 16:50.43 | pppd | aha |
| 16:50.48 | EdePopede | for root user, with UID=0. man pages are important, don't know if gnu info and other programs atm |
| 16:50.52 | pppd | I probably changed the urls to incorrect one. |
| 16:51.03 | n0arch | u can put a conditional in /etc/profile |
| 16:51.12 | EdePopede | my default user must stay with de_utf8 |
| 16:51.24 | n0arch | if ["`id -u`" -eq 0 ]; then LANG=en; else LANG=du |
| 16:51.25 | n0arch | de* |
| 16:51.29 | jelly | !tell pppd about wheezy sources.list |
| 16:51.33 | jelly | pppd: looks just fine |
| 16:51.36 | pppd | hm |
| 16:51.38 | pppd | strange |
| 16:51.39 | EdePopede | i've read, for if there are no settings. needed for ssh or so as far as i've seen |
| 16:51.45 | pppd | I reprovision the whole thing |
| 16:51.52 | pppd | and see if the issue still persists |
| 16:52.07 | n0arch | there's no non-free for security |
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| 16:52.59 | pppd | right |
| 16:53.03 | pppd | I use sane sources now. |
| 16:53.10 | jelly | pppd: verify you don't have some sort of transparent proxy in between |
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| 16:53.49 | EdePopede | should backticks be still used? i hink i've read somewhere of security problems, but maybe this was only bash specific th use $() instead |
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| 16:54.34 | EdePopede | wouödn't it be "cleaner" to let /etc untouched and use one of the files in /root ? |
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| 16:57.25 | n0arch | you can do it in ~/.profile |
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| 16:58.05 | EdePopede | was my first thought, only it seems "mesg n" didn't happen at the end of the file :/ |
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| 16:58.19 | EdePopede | anyway, i'll try |
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| 16:58.41 | n0arch | if you have bash_login of bash_profile |
| 16:58.44 | n0arch | those are executed instead |
| 16:58.47 | n0arch | i believe |
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| 16:58.57 | n0arch | .bash_login or .bash_profile |
| 16:59.01 | n0arch | * |
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| 17:00.59 | babilen | EdePopede: I was simply suggesting to override the default locale (you'll be asked in 'dpkg-reconfigure locales') to an English one or to set the locale for a user explicitly in its profile. (cf. /etc/default/locale, /etc/locale.gen, ~/.profile, ~/.bash_profile, ...) |
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| 17:04.57 | EdePopede | babilen, n0arch: .profile works. no idea what was wrong with 'mesg'. now it also "is n" as desired. (still wondering why y in usual xterm, but n in xcterm+screen... not important atm though) |
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| 17:07.04 | babilen | "is n" ? |
| 17:07.22 | babilen | And what is "mesg" ? |
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| 17:07.50 | babilen | (or rather what does it have to do with any of this?) |
| 17:07.56 | EdePopede | "mesg - control write access to your terminal" mentioning talk, write and wall. weems to be really old |
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| 17:08.20 | babilen | How is that related to manpages, locales or Apache and fastcgi ? |
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| 17:08.48 | EdePopede | the fact that the output was "y" instead of "n" was a possible hint that .profile isn't executed, what would make settings there useless |
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| 17:09.23 | babilen | You sure are confusing |
| 17:09.25 | EdePopede | now i have my language, and have looked again into the manpage. |
| 17:09.30 | EdePopede | i know |
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| 17:10.24 | timini | hey is there any search functionality with apt-get? |
| 17:10.36 | EdePopede | i try to solve problems at the moment they come i or when i realize them, that's all. just like apt does with the deppendencies ;) |
| 17:10.37 | timini | I don't seem to have aptitude installed |
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| 17:10.50 | CissWit | timini: apt-cache |
| 17:10.51 | petn-randall | takes away EdePopede's pipe, and smells on the contents. |
| 17:10.56 | EdePopede | *g |
| 17:11.20 | petn-randall | EdePopede: The only difference is that aptitude eventually resolves the dependencies. |
| 17:11.31 | petn-randall | rushes EdePopede to the burn unit! |
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| 17:11.54 | EdePopede | petn-randall: unknown, what is it? |
| 17:12.00 | Alex-Musicman | [15:10:56] --- [Alex-Musicman] idle 718:27:58, signon: Sat, Nov 15 16:43:34 |
| 17:12.02 | Alex-Musicman | wow |
| 17:12.22 | linagee | What is the best way to run Apache 2.4 with debian? (try some sort of wheezy backport someone threw together, or try using jessie?) |
| 17:12.38 | timini | Cool, how do I update the package list then, apt-chache seems to have no data :p |
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| 17:14.02 | linagee | (or wait 11 months (?) for jessie to go from testing to stable?) |
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| 17:16.41 | timini | does anyone know how to update the packages list for apt-cache? |
| 17:16.48 | tuxx- | apt-get update |
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| 17:16.50 | linagee | timini: apt-get update?? |
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| 17:17.22 | linagee | so is nobody running Apache 2.4 then? :-/ |
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| 17:18.14 | tuxx- | apparantly im running apache 2.4 linagee |
| 17:18.14 | babilen | linagee: It is running on my workstation that is tracking jessie and my laptop that is tracking sid. |
| 17:18.16 | timini | Oh I alwas wondered what that did |
| 17:18.26 | tuxx- | but its ubuntu ;-o (sorry for the cursing) |
| 17:18.38 | babilen | linagee: You can, however, not use it on wheezy (wheezy comes with 2.2) |
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| 17:21.01 | n0arch | mesg is for the write function ibelieve |
| 17:21.05 | n0arch | o shit i was way scrolled up |
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| 17:23.02 | Alex-Musicman | n0arch: hey |
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| 17:27.44 | n0arch | hello |
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| 17:32.05 | Alex-Musicman | how I can fix the general xserver, xorg, gnome3, etc..? |
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| 17:32.32 | n0arch | whats wrong with it |
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| 17:32.46 | Alex-Musicman | after last update apps, my debian won't start with radeon and fglrx driver.. only with vesa |
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| 17:33.52 | Alex-Musicman | I already unistalled xorg video ati, radeon, core, reinstalled, I am uninstalled fglrx also and reinstalled, but it continues |
| 17:34.16 | n0arch | hm |
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| 17:34.35 | n0arch | sounds like a config file prolly got updated |
| 17:34.56 | Alex-Musicman | even with the amd catalyst last driver version from official page.. |
| 17:35.00 | Alex-Musicman | perhaps module issue |
| 17:35.08 | Alex-Musicman | debian# modprobe fglrx |
| 17:35.08 | Alex-Musicman | FATAL: Module fglrx not found. |
| 17:35.25 | Alex-Musicman | but I have fglrx installed |
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| 17:36.23 | n0arch | most likely kernel module |
| 17:36.25 | n0arch | if after updates |
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| 17:37.51 | babilen | Alex-Musicman: Which version of Debian are you running? What did you upgrade exactly (paste /var/log/apt/history.log, ...) ? What was/is the error you got in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log immediately after the upgrade? |
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| 17:38.11 | Alex-Musicman | using the fglrx driver, the debian load the kernel, but stops in a black and clean screen.. the key don't work |
| 17:38.34 | n0arch | xorg probably 'cant find display' |
| 17:38.39 | n0arch | or no suitable displays |
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| 17:42.17 | Alex-Musicman | babilen: http://pastebin.com/pHzQGbD2 |
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| 17:42.48 | Alex-Musicman | after it, my debian stoped to start X |
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| 17:43.06 | Alex-Musicman | I tried everything.. but only vesa is working |
| 17:43.45 | Alex-Musicman | I tried also opensource ATI driver and my onboard video card HD3000, but the problem keep |
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| 17:44.44 | EdePopede | is it really necessary to do something like ''dpkg --list |grep "^rc" | cut -d " " -f 3 | xargs sudo dpkg --purge'' to get rid of all packages in state 'rc'? |
| 17:44.54 | Alex-Musicman | the diference is that ATI opensource still work keyboard to swith tty with ctrl+alt+F1,F2,etc.. |
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| 17:59.25 | jhutchins | Alex-Musicman: Again, wich release are you using? |
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| 17:59.45 | Alex-Musicman | jhutchins: 7.7 |
| 17:59.55 | Alex-Musicman | os[Linux 3.16-0.bpo.3-amd64 x86_64] distro[Debian 7.7] cpu[8 x AMD FX(tm)-8120 Eight-Core Processor (AuthetiicAMD) @ 1.40GHz] mem[Physical: 7.8GB, 53.8% free] disk[Total: 988.1GB, 17.9% free] video[Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Oland [Radeon HD 8600 Series]] sound[EMU10K1 - SB Live! 5.1 [SB0220]1: USB-Audio - USB Audio CODEC] |
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| 18:00.39 | jhutchins | Alex-Musicman: /var/log/Xorg.0.log is very noisy but should give you some idea what the problem is. |
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| 18:01.37 | _TheAvatar | I used this transparent firewall example here: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ap-bridge-fw.en.html - but I get no traffic through. I can't even ping between the fw and a box behind it - either machine shows up in the opposites arp table tho. Any ideas? |
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| 18:02.01 | qu | Has anyone mastered the Black Art of mounting ZFS filesystems on boot with Debian? |
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| 18:02.15 | qu | It's not even importing. Modules are loaded though. |
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| 18:03.21 | Alex-Musicman | jhutchins: in opensource driver, It returns no screen detected, but in the fglrx apparently is ok, but in the lightdm returns some errors |
| 18:03.36 | Alex-Musicman | FATAL: Module fglrx not found. |
| 18:03.36 | Alex-Musicman | /usr/bin/X: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers/fglrx_drv.so: undefined symbol: ukiGetMarketingName |
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| 18:05.33 | n0arch | qu: r u usin /dev/disk/by-id/ or /dev/sd* |
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| 18:05.56 | qu | n0arch: Not specifying anything anywhere. |
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| 18:06.21 | qu | Just trying to make sure /etc/init.d/zfsmount is running. |
| 18:06.27 | n0arch | for pool creation i mean |
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| 18:06.48 | qu | O, prob /dev/sdb |
| 18:07.10 | qu | It's still sdb though. |
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| 18:07.45 | n0arch | https://github.com/zfsonlinux/pkg-zfs/wiki/HOWTO-install-Debian-GNU-Linux-to-a-Native-ZFS-Root-Filesystem |
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| 18:08.12 | qu | n0arch: Ya looking at that now. |
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| 18:12.42 | qu | damn, I used /dev/mapper/sdb_crypt to create. |
| 18:12.59 | qu | I guess that means I have to completely rebuild the pool. |
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| 18:14.42 | jhutchins | Alex-Musicman: Looks like you updated your kernel but didn't update the ATI drivers. |
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| 18:15.14 | jhutchins | Alex-Musicman: I believe you do the same procedure as you did for the initial install. |
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| 18:16.36 | Alex-Musicman | I downloaded fglrx-14.501.1003 (last version) and installed, but keep not workin'... |
| 18:17.31 | Alex-Musicman | I'd the fglrx-14.301.1001 before |
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| 18:23.26 | deranged_ | would 20GB be enough for a debian on a SSD? |
| 18:24.08 | Alex-Musicman | I think yes |
| 18:24.09 | Alex-Musicman | lol |
| 18:24.09 | mtn | deranged_: yes, as long as you don't have much in the way of files, like pics or video |
| 18:24.56 | deranged_ | no, for that a hdd is there |
| 18:25.05 | Alex-Musicman | I had ubuntu 8.04 in my old 10gb IDE HD :) |
| 18:25.29 | mtn | deranged_: oh, if you mean just for root, that should be fine. |
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| 18:25.45 | deranged_ | root and ~ but not media data and such |
| 18:25.45 | abrotman | deranged_: depends on your usage, I have it in 8GB on an older netbook |
| 18:25.46 | rneese | ok who maintains the php5-pgsqladmin pkg |
| 18:25.51 | rneese | as it ios wrong |
| 18:25.53 | abrotman | Teh whole thing in 8GB |
| 18:26.00 | abrotman | rneese: this is on the website |
| 18:26.04 | deranged_ | abrotman: is it enough to compile a kernel? |
| 18:26.06 | rneese | they should not be forcing apache down peoples throat |
| 18:26.12 | Dereckson | deranged_: I've checked a laptop I installed this Saturday, Debian, some software manually installed like Firefox Developer Edition, and some episodes of a serie, total: 13 GB |
| 18:26.13 | Alex-Musicman | well.. itz still installed, but I no longer user IDE, my motherboard haven't support and my HD have 1 pin broken |
| 18:26.14 | Alex-Musicman | xD |
| 18:26.24 | rneese | it should just install the php code into the www dir |
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| 18:26.32 | mtn | deranged_: and mine is using 56G, but I have everything in one partition |
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| 18:26.43 | rneese | and allow the user to select what httpd server to use |
| 18:26.48 | Dereckson | deranged_: so I also said yes for a 20 GB SSD |
| 18:26.50 | Dereckson | I'd |
| 18:26.58 | abrotman | deranged_: Should be |
| 18:27.23 | `Kevin | rneese: x2 |
| 18:28.18 | Dereckson | deranged_: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/lfs/view/development/chapter08/kernel.html suggests 800-900 MB as typical space required to build a kernel, and 6.8 GB as the upper limit |
| 18:28.55 | Dereckson | I suspect this upper limit is to include every driver existing. |
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| 18:29.24 | `Kevin | rneese: looks like it includes an apache conf.d file, thats stupid |
| 18:29.36 | rneese | yes |
| 18:29.46 | rneese | and there for it requires apache |
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| 18:29.55 | rneese | andshoves it down your throat |
| 18:30.00 | deranged_ | oh well, I gave it 15GB. let's hope it's enough :) |
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| 18:31.10 | deranged_ | I remember a potato with 170MB fujitsu.... half height |
| 18:31.51 | n0arch | 15G should b fine |
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| 18:32.13 | _TheAvatar | I used this transparent firewall example here: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/securing-debian-howto/ap-bridge-fw.en.html - but I get no traffic through. I can't even ping between the fw and a box behind it - either machine shows up in the opposites arp table tho. Any ideas? |
| 18:33.01 | _TheAvatar | now I can ping actually, but it is like ARP traffic is stuck on the firewall |
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| 18:33.18 | bobbyr | Hello, so I have a debian install that I used the default multi partition settings on, and it turns out that / only has about 400MB allocated |
| 18:33.35 | bobbyr | is there a simple way to reallocate space to / without reinstalling the entire OS? |
| 18:33.52 | mtn | bobbyr: use gparted from a live disk |
| 18:34.06 | mtn | bobbyr: http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/gparted.html |
| 18:34.06 | bobbyr | mtn, how safe is that? |
| 18:34.15 | mtn | bobbyr: quite, but please have backups |
| 18:34.21 | bobbyr | gotcha |
| 18:34.33 | zebra111 | bobbyr don't drop your hdd while your partitioning them |
| 18:34.52 | bobbyr | zebraalll I won't |
| 18:35.11 | n0arch | fsck not a bad idea either |
| 18:35.42 | bobbyr | btw, is the default size for / being 400 MB sensible for any setup at all? |
| 18:36.00 | bobbyr | i only noticed the problem when trying to apt-get upgrade and running out of disk space... |
| 18:36.26 | n0arch | depends on how you do the rest of your partitions |
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| 18:37.49 | bobbyr | http://pastebin.com/39z8h3GM |
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| 18:38.01 | bobbyr | this is with the default multi partition settings |
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| 18:38.42 | bobbyr | note that I do have some stuff living in /opt and /var/www, I guess I could just symlink them from /home if need be |
| 18:38.54 | bobbyr | though I don't think there is much disk usage there |
| 18:39.37 | bobbyr | (not really a sysadmin btw, but im having to build this app from the group up, including deployment and builds) |
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| 18:39.56 | bobbyr | so forgive me for being a newbie |
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| 18:40.43 | mtn | bobbyr: http://www.howtogeek.com/howto/35676/how-to-choose-a-partition-scheme-for-your-linux-pc/ |
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| 18:41.55 | n0arch | _TheAvatar: did you try testing your bridge before you set up the iptables rules? |
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| 18:44.54 | _TheAvatar | n0arch, right now I have INPUT, FORWARD, OUTPUT set to ACCEPT and no rules |
| 18:45.06 | _TheAvatar | and with tcpdump on the firewall, I can see ARP requests, but no replies |
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| 18:45.50 | n0arch | what about nat rules |
| 18:45.53 | n0arch | iptables -t nat -L -nv |
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| 18:46.06 | _TheAvatar | none present (all shows accept) |
| 18:46.28 | _TheAvatar | it runs on vmware, and I have on the virtual switch set it to promisc mode allowed, else I can't even ping the bridge from a server behind it |
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| 18:49.09 | mozzie | hello |
| 18:49.10 | mozzie | j'ai un presta qui profite un peu de la paranoia de mon CEO et qui lui annonce que l'ensemble de ses HDD sont chiffrees sur le serveur (ca a la limite je veux bien l'admettre) mais qu'il fait (je cite) 'du miroring d'ip afin qu'on ne puisse pas vraiment savoir ou le serveur se trouve'. |
| 18:49.17 | mozzie | j'ai beau potasser mes cours de CCNA, du miroring d'ip je ne vois rien, google ne m'aide pas non plus, j'aimerai savoir si certains d'entre vous connaissent cette notion et ce que c'est en vrai. |
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| 18:49.28 | _TheAvatar | n0arch, actually, I can see the MAC address on the other end of the bridge |
| 18:50.04 | mozzie | hum sorry, bad channel |
| 18:50.05 | n0arch | but you cant get through? |
| 18:50.10 | n0arch | hm |
| 18:50.13 | n0arch | lemme read ur link |
| 18:50.20 | Dereckson | mozzie: ask the consultant to offer a stronger reasonment with sound arguments to comfort his opinion |
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| 18:50.57 | mozzie | Dereckson, I would like, but he speaks only with the CEO. |
| 18:51.29 | _TheAvatar | n0arch, correct - ping of the gateway (on eth0 side of the firewall) is not possible from server (on the eth1 side of the firewall) |
| 18:51.46 | n0arch | can the kernel forward? |
| 18:51.56 | n0arch | cat /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward |
| 18:52.21 | Dereckson | mozzie: by IP mirroring, it probably means failover IP |
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| 18:53.01 | mozzie | Dereckson, it's not protected the real ip of server. |
| 18:53.37 | _TheAvatar | n0arch, yes |
| 18:54.02 | _TheAvatar | from tcpdump (.241 is behind the firewall): "19:52:14.386660 IP 193.200.91.241 > 193.200.91.1: ICMP echo request, id 2116, seq 25, length 64" |
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| 18:54.08 | _TheAvatar | I never get a reply though |
| 18:54.08 | Dereckson | mozzie: these failover IP could have a geolocalisation outside the country, belonging to another country, and so you could only expose this secondary public IP, but I don't see what scenario that could help. It were used for SEO purpose a little bit, but mostly to offer fault tolerance and ease balancing of a service from one server to another |
| 18:54.12 | foca | hello |
| 18:54.16 | foca | !list |
| 18:54.17 | dpkg | foca: vedi http://packages.debian.org/ |
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| 18:58.12 | jhutchins | ...which actually is an answer to the implied question. |
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| 18:58.21 | _TheAvatar | n0arch, ooh - I enabled promisc mode on the eth0 (WAN) side of the firewall - then things start to work |
| 18:58.33 | n0arch | oh yeah that makes sense |
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| 19:00.02 | bobbyr | mtn, yeah, I know how my file system should look, just surprised that debians defaults allocate such a small amount of the total disk space to root |
| 19:00.12 | bobbyr | it's < 400 MB |
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| 19:01.02 | jhutchins | bobbyr: The partitioning scheme is archaic. It goes back to when 1MB drives were the size of washing machines. |
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| 19:01.20 | bobbyr | jhutchins, lol, yes I see that |
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| 19:01.34 | jhutchins | bobbyr: I recommend a single partition + swap unless you have a very well established knowledge of what data will go where. |
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| 19:02.33 | bobbyr | jhutchins I'd prefer to have split partitions actually... I would have done it myself had I known that the default settings were as bizarre as they are |
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| 19:06.12 | rneese | well I emailed the person I hope they fixit |
| 19:06.25 | rneese | shoving a webserver requirement is just wrong |
| 19:06.32 | rneese | and I need phppgadmin |
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| 19:08.28 | dondelelcaro | rneese: why wouldn't you expect phppgadmin to require a webserver? |
| 19:08.53 | dondelelcaro | rneese: I mean, you can use any webserver you want, but you need one |
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| 19:15.34 | ponyofdeath | anyone know why partman stops at No volume groups found when I am not using lvm? trying to preseed a box |
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| 19:16.37 | rneese | it should be a option as to what httpd server you use |
| 19:16.49 | rneese | you should not be forcing the use of a specific one |
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| 19:17.37 | rneese | its fine that it will require one but you should echo a statement stating you willneed to install these deps for apache and these deps for nginx |
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| 19:17.49 | rneese | but not everyone in the work uses apache |
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| 19:18.02 | rneese | infast the company I work for forbids it |
| 19:18.13 | rneese | we only use nginx |
| 19:18.34 | rneese | and I work for 1 of the largest set of rail companies in the US |
| 19:18.41 | rneese | and Canada |
| 19:18.49 | rneese | CN/BNSF |
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| 19:19.38 | rneese | CN = Canada Rail for those who dont know |
| 19:20.57 | rneese | BNSF Burlington Northern SantaFe |
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| 20:01.44 | mRMans | Hello there all and hope you are having fun ! |
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| 20:01.51 | Nebukadneza | heho |
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| 20:02.30 | n0arch | always |
| 20:02.40 | Nebukadneza | i've read somewhere that opensshd itself can "now" do the same things as "scponly" did in the past |
| 20:02.47 | mRMans | I have a question about ssh and bashrc, I would like to add some alias to my bash rc that lets me login to a machine. But would also like to do it with a pass word |
| 20:02.57 | Nebukadneza | i just can't find that article anymore, neither any pointer to this feature in the manpages... does anybody know a good keyword to look for? |
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| 20:03.22 | n0arch | echo "ssh root@<ip> -p<port>" >> ~/.bashrc |
| 20:03.25 | n0arch | . .bashrc |
| 20:03.26 | metabsd | Hi all |
| 20:03.29 | n0arch | er |
| 20:03.33 | n0arch | alias <name>= |
| 20:03.35 | n0arch | then the rest |
| 20:03.36 | n0arch | lol |
| 20:03.41 | mRMans | n0arch, what about the passwd ? |
| 20:03.46 | mRMans | use sshaskpass ? |
| 20:03.55 | n0arch | it'll prompt you when you try to log in |
| 20:03.57 | n0arch | unless you have an ssh key |
| 20:03.58 | metabsd | I cannot boot with my Debian Unstable .. I have to vgchange -ay and ctrl-d |
| 20:04.04 | metabsd | Anyone have the same problem |
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| 20:04.08 | mRMans | n0arch, I can not use keys ATM |
| 20:04.32 | n0arch | you want to keep the password or eliminate it for this machine |
| 20:04.49 | mRMans | I have it all set up the way that you said . but having to go back to my storage that has the passwd in them takes way way way to much time |
| 20:04.57 | ompaul | ,scponly |
| 20:05.07 | ompaul | ,v scponly |
| 20:05.08 | judd | Package: scponly on i386 -- squeeze: 4.8-4.1 |
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| 20:05.20 | ompaul | so it's gone a long time |
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| 20:05.47 | mRMans | I guess that I can keep it the way that it is ATM and just enter in password when the prompt comes. But just wondering if there is a way around this (with out keys that is ) |
| 20:05.56 | mRMans | only thing I can find sshaskpass |
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| 20:06.03 | ompaul | ,v scponly-full |
| 20:06.04 | judd | Package: scponly-full on i386 -- squeeze: 4.8-4.1 |
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| 20:06.48 | mRMans | not sure if ssh can use EOF example alias sshFoo='ssh user@somemachine EOF << password EOF' |
| 20:06.56 | n0arch | ssh-keygen |
| 20:07.16 | n0arch | no |
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| 20:07.20 | ompaul | restricted shell of some sort or lock sftp down but it's not what you want |
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| 20:07.27 | n0arch | you cant do passwords from stdin with ssh afaik |
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| 20:08.06 | mRMans | yeah But I can not lock down to keys only that is the major issue atm. Because some others that need to login to the servers do not know how to use thing to upload keys ect |
| 20:08.09 | ompaul | you can - but it is a bad idea :) any argument on a command line |
| 20:08.37 | mRMans | If it was up to me I would do only keys and lock down with jailkit |
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| 20:09.27 | ompaul | chroot sor some such |
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| 20:09.47 | mRMans | but it is not up to me lol OHH I know what I can do I can add $2 and make that the pass in a script. Like do alias sshFast='script client pass' |
| 20:09.55 | n0arch | yeah |
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| 20:12.21 | polyphagia | hey so is there a way to make screen not insert characters when i do shift+insert or middle click? |
| 20:12.52 | polyphagia | i'm using urxvt w/ screen and when i paste from primary buffer it adds 2 characters before and after the content |
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| 20:13.57 | mRMans | Something else that is driving me bonkers ! I have a build server that builds packages and adds to local repo. But the host server for this is Ubuntu (not by choice) and I can not create new sbuild because the keys get bounced. |
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| 20:14.01 | mRMans | example |
| 20:14.09 | mRMans | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:14.10 | polyphagia | lol wtf wrong channel sorry |
| 20:14.17 | mRMans | E: Release signed by unknown key (key id 8B48AD6246925553) |
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| 20:15.04 | mRMans | but it sure can make some chroots for Ubuntu. lol just not debian. which sucks |
| 20:15.41 | mRMans | example sudo sbuild-createchroot --make-sbuild-tarball=/var/lib/sbuild/trusty-amd64.tar.gz trusty `mktemp -d` http://archive.ubuntu.com |
| 20:15.44 | mRMans | works ^^ |
| 20:15.57 | mRMans | url might be wrong but you get the picture |
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| 20:16.24 | mRMans | I have downloaded the debian key rings and what not and added path to --keys and still nothing |
| 20:16.42 | mRMans | example --keyring=/etc/apt/trusted.gpg.d |
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| 20:17.17 | mRMans | and even went as far as --keyring=/usr/share/keyrings/debian-archive-keyring.gpg |
| 20:17.54 | mRMans | but still can not find the key's so that I can make the chroot for any debian versions (sid jessie wheezy ect) |
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| 20:21.37 | mRMans | end goal is to have repo using reprepro builder with sbuild/buildd and database stuff with wannabuild. But it seems that I can not get past the chroot part :( I am following this Wiki https://wiki.debian.org/SetupBuildServiceForWanna-build |
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| 20:31.54 | EdePopede | "aptitude why zsh" tells me that zsh-static depends on it, but the list only says "i" as in installed, not "i A" as in installed automatically. can i find out if it was installed at system install or i installed it later (and if so, if directly or as dependency)? |
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| 20:40.08 | _TheAvatar | http://pastebin.com/wvTtSBGQ - what is wrong here? |
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| 20:47.05 | CheckDavid_ | Why is my Windows installing USB port drivers if they don't work? |
| 20:47.13 | mRMans | unsigned |
| 20:47.14 | CheckDavid_ | does it recognize them even though they don't work? |
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| 20:47.29 | GNU\colossus | Debian GNU/Windows? |
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| 20:48.19 | CheckDavid_ | OH Damn . Sorry lol |
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| 20:52.49 | average | hey |
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| 20:52.57 | chris-cj | Hi |
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| 20:53.06 | average | I am currently encountering a situation where I'd need a platform-agnostic build system |
| 20:53.11 | average | currently the most popular seem to be: |
| 20:53.30 | average | 1) GNU make 2) autoconf/automake (otherwise known as autotools I guess) |
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| 20:53.32 | average | 3) cmake |
| 20:53.38 | average | 4) scons (maybe?) |
| 20:53.46 | average | I'm sure there are many others |
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| 20:54.09 | average | however, the main source of the problem is that it also needs to support the Microsoft Windows C++ compiler |
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| 20:54.36 | average | which apparently, not many build systems embrace |
| 20:54.50 | average | I've read that autoconf/automake does not support Microsoft's C++ compiler.. |
| 20:54.54 | WangDang | I'm trying to set up maradns both as a recursive name server and as an authoritative one for local machines. The recursivie part is working fine; I can surf the web no problem. But it doesn't seem to recognize itself as authoritative locally. If i try to ping/dig/askmara a local machine by host name only it returns the address 127.0.53.53, which is obviously wrong. If I try dig with the hostname and local network part, I get an soa record coming from a.r |
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| 20:55.01 | chris-cj | Does anyone know if updated versions of qemu are having problems or just generally qemu having problems on wheezy 64 bit? I'm trying to set up a virtual machine, when I get to the "choose which type of install" select "Install" or "Graphical install" it just freezes. Any ideas? |
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| 20:58.29 | WangDang | like where is it getting 127.0.53.53 from? |
| 20:58.38 | balleyne | Is there a low latency or RT kernel in the Debian jessie repos? I've seen people link to https://packages.debian.org/jessie/linux-image-rt-686-pae but the package doesn't seem to exist anymore... |
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| 20:59.25 | aaron83 | hi there |
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| 21:00.09 | aaron83 | i have freeradius server..i need user time connection rules in freeradius..any suggestion? |
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| 21:00.20 | jeezy | balleyne: i was wondering the same |
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| 21:01.56 | balleyne | jeezy, it seems like there was a year or so back, from the first few posts here: http://www.linuxmusicians.com/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=12004 |
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| 21:02.22 | jeezy | balleyne: i was thinking about just compiling my own |
| 21:02.32 | jeezy | ive done this with a gentoo daw i had before |
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| 21:03.03 | Crabby | I'm reinstalling Debian 7.7 and it wants a 510mb partition for EFIboot. Is there a reason why it's so big? |
| 21:03.12 | eurobit | ballnye? wow when did bill become so sexist? |
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| 21:04.07 | eurobit | nvm should have known it could be possible when tab complete didn't work --- nvm --- *hangs up phone to gloria allred* |
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| 21:04.17 | eurobit | be immmmmpossible |
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| 21:04.30 | balleyne | eurobit, yeah, that's B. Alleyne, my first initial and last name... lol |
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| 21:05.10 | eurobit | is it a good idea to really a real person on irc? ;) |
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| 21:05.30 | okdamn | guys what are these infos inet 10.202.11.126 netmask 0xfffff000 broadcast 10.202.15.255 |
| 21:05.33 | okdamn | i run ifconfig |
| 21:05.36 | eurobit | and we aren't even in the #irssi channel - sorry |
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| 21:05.49 | okdamn | what is broadcast ?? |
| 21:06.11 | eurobit | in case a router wants to 'contact' all in 10.202.15.* |
| 21:06.28 | eurobit | in case a router wants to 'contact' all in 10.202.*.* |
| 21:06.53 | okdamn | eurobit: i don't get the difference between these two addresses |
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| 21:07.06 | okdamn | what broadcast stands for? and netmask? |
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| 21:07.21 | pingfloyd | okdamn: broadcast is the broadcast address on the subnet and the highest address in it |
| 21:07.30 | eurobit | yours is x.x.x.x with a netmask that restricts your netork |
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| 21:07.48 | okdamn | which is the one people can use to access? |
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| 21:07.53 | okdamn | the netmask one ? :P |
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| 21:08.01 | pingfloyd | no |
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| 21:08.19 | okdamn | mmmm ok |
| 21:08.19 | eurobit | https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Netmask |
| 21:08.22 | WangDang | okdamn: the inet one |
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| 21:08.30 | [BNC]dimitry7 | Hi guys. I am using debian 7 to configure a sound card, but I cannot see /dev/dsp device, and I have oss-compat package installed as the docs say. |
| 21:08.32 | okdamn | inet sorry yeah |
| 21:08.44 | okdamn | but are these infos sharable or not? |
| 21:08.45 | aaron83 | no one here work with freeradius? |
| 21:09.09 | eurobit | okdamn you can discover all ips with nmap |
| 21:09.11 | okdamn | i mean if i share my inet address is safe? |
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| 21:09.28 | okdamn | eurobit: so its a info you can easily find form remote? |
| 21:09.46 | okdamn | i mean , which info is not safe to share aout my connection? |
| 21:09.47 | eurobit | okdamn: no it is a subnet - nonroutable - only in your lan |
| 21:09.58 | eurobit | you are behind a router? |
| 21:10.01 | okdamn | yes |
| 21:10.05 | jeezy | balleyne: i found this http://download.tuxfamily.org/tangostudio/debian/pool/main/l/linux/ |
| 21:10.21 | eurobit | and there are lots of people in the world with that ip on an ethernet ;) |
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| 21:11.06 | `Kevin | okdamn: we already have your IP from irc :P |
| 21:11.20 | okdamn | eurobit: sec, let me reformulate, i would like a person to access my machine on my IP, so afaik i must send him my inet address , correct? |
| 21:11.26 | `Kevin | its not like it is a password |
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| 21:12.14 | okdamn | ok :D so there is no info i should take secret about my internet connection and machine addresses , correct? |
| 21:12.24 | okdamn | everyone can sniff them or anyway get them easily? |
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| 21:12.56 | `Kevin | an IP suggests how to get to you but not how to get in. |
| 21:13.03 | likecolacola | Hey, what's a good approach for working remotely with desktop support?, something like teamviewer.. |
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| 21:13.07 | WangDang | okdamn: yes your inet address is like your phone number, if no one knows it, no one can contact you, but it's more complicated than that when you're behind a router |
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| 21:13.41 | bobbyr | quick question... is ln -s respected in /etc/rc.local... im almost positive it is but... |
| 21:13.59 | okdamn | WangDang: mmm understood, so inet address can't be sniffed or intercepted in anyway ? |
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| 21:14.12 | okdamn | only if i send you that you know about it ? |
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| 21:14.14 | EdePopede | ok, i just tried to do the simple thing: install mediawiki from the repo. selects a couple of other packages (17) and has 9 suggestions. only: TWO(!) MPMs are now marked with pBA (broken), prefork and worker. prefork is selected and there is a dialog "Some packages were broken and have been fixed: Keep the following packages at their current version: apache2-mpm-worker [Not Installed]" |
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| 21:14.41 | EdePopede | is it normal that aptitude doesn't resolve dependencies not *that* clean? |
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| 21:14.52 | eurobit | okdamn: you aren't reading what people are writing to you |
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| 21:16.21 | okdamn | eurobit: the WangDang told me inet addr is like my phone number so i guess only if i share it or tell you it you know it ⦠!? |
| 21:16.25 | okdamn | not correct? |
| 21:16.51 | eurobit | that ip is only good on your local network |
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| 21:17.16 | `Kevin | why cant we just move to IPv6 get rid of NAT sigh ;P |
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| 21:17.26 | okdamn | eurobit: i am confused , inet , isn't it an IP address people can use to access my machine ? |
| 21:17.59 | eurobit | it is not an internet ip - that ip you gave is a local net ip ... unless i looked at it wrong |
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| 21:18.04 | EdePopede | okdamn: the world only sees the outer ip of your router |
| 21:18.26 | n0arch | see rfc1918 |
| 21:18.27 | EdePopede | some IP ranges are NEVER routed (like 10.*) |
| 21:18.34 | [BNC]dimitry7 | Hi guys. I am using debian 7 to configure a sound card, but I cannot see /dev/dsp device, and I have oss-compat package installed as the docs say. |
| 21:18.43 | okdamn | sec if i want my friend to enter my machine i need to share him the inet or wot? :P |
| 21:19.06 | n0arch | u would have to put your system into the routers dmz |
| 21:19.08 | eurobit | [BNC]dimitry7: did you modprobe the drivers? /dev/dsp or what ever is used is usually created by the driver |
| 21:19.44 | eurobit | okdamn: where is your friend? down the hall or in another building? |
| 21:20.00 | okdamn | eurobit: other building other connection |
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| 21:21.04 | eurobit | then odds are he isn't on your local net and would need to know the ip of your outer router (internet ip) and then be port forwarded in said router to your local net ip |
| 21:21.14 | [BNC]dimitry7 | eurobit, yes, this one snd-pcm-oss |
| 21:22.10 | okdamn | eurobit: so no inet but ⦠? |
| 21:22.12 | eurobit | modprobe snd-pcm-oss it could be /dev/sound/ check |
| 21:22.37 | eurobit | so no inet ? what |
| 21:22.45 | [BNC]dimitry7 | eurobit, nope, there is no /dev/sound directoty |
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| 21:22.57 | okdamn | eurobit: if its not the inet addr which is the one your are talking about? :P |
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| 21:23.01 | okdamn | how can i get it?:P |
| 21:23.15 | WangDang | okdamn: your friend won't be able to connect to your machine without the intervention of the network administrator who isn't likely to want to help |
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| 21:23.45 | okdamn | ok i think i got it :) |
| 21:23.48 | okdamn | thank you guys |
| 21:24.07 | eurobit | okdamn: just email him your pics incryped ;) |
| 21:24.51 | okdamn | eurobit: lol not a good vision |
| 21:25.01 | `Kevin | okdamn: what kind of access does your friend need? |
| 21:25.04 | `Kevin | what are you trying to do |
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| 21:25.18 | okdamn | Kevinaccess a local directory |
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| 21:25.38 | okdamn | access my www/dir/file.mp3 for example |
| 21:25.43 | `Kevin | okdamn: as someone earleir noted, just use teamviewer |
| 21:25.47 | `Kevin | earlier*' |
| 21:25.59 | okdamn | nono i need to write a javascript app for this |
| 21:26.01 | okdamn | :P |
| 21:26.04 | okdamn | thank you |
| 21:26.08 | `Kevin | haha |
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| 21:26.47 | eurobit | okdamn: samba/ftp/nfs ? |
| 21:27.00 | okdamn | samba time? what is samba ;P |
| 21:27.07 | `Kevin | eurobit: i wouldnt even dig into that |
| 21:27.07 | eurobit | javascript can't send files |
| 21:27.15 | `Kevin | requires vpn |
| 21:27.30 | okdamn | eurobit: meh its more complicated man, it will be long to explain all |
| 21:27.54 | eurobit | hey we are all almost on vacation - explain away ;) |
| 21:27.58 | n0arch | so danco samba |
| 21:28.02 | okdamn | lol |
| 21:28.13 | okdamn | eurobit: https://github.com/floatinghotpot/cordova-httpd you know apache cordova? |
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| 21:28.37 | okdamn | this plugin creates a webserver to access your /www dir on mobile |
| 21:28.48 | okdamn | but i don't know if i can access remotely your dir |
| 21:29.04 | okdamn | since your IP should be not shared i guess |
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| 21:29.40 | eurobit | you at a school? |
| 21:30.09 | okdamn | eurobit: me? |
| 21:30.14 | eurobit | yes |
| 21:30.23 | okdamn | no i finished school 10 years ago |
| 21:30.29 | okdamn | you still there? |
| 21:30.34 | eurobit | another building? prison? |
| 21:30.39 | okdamn | lol |
| 21:30.46 | okdamn | PC case |
| 21:31.28 | okdamn | eurobit: are you a dev? sysadmin or wot? |
| 21:31.31 | okdamn | spy ? |
| 21:31.34 | eurobit | do you have a sysadmin or are you the sysadmin (owner of the router) |
| 21:31.46 | eurobit | poser |
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| 21:32.09 | okdamn | eurobit: lol |
| 21:32.17 | okdamn | router is router what else? i am the owner |
| 21:32.21 | okdamn | its in my house |
| 21:32.33 | n0arch | ur current inet address |
| 21:32.36 | n0arch | is a local IP |
| 21:32.39 | okdamn | should i elect my cat to sysadmin my router? |
| 21:32.48 | n0arch | that exists only inside of your router(house) |
| 21:33.07 | n0arch | your router has your public IP address |
| 21:33.12 | okdamn | n0arch: can't people access it remotely just typing it in the browser? |
| 21:33.28 | n0arch | yeah |
| 21:33.32 | n0arch | but they would access your router |
| 21:33.35 | n0arch | not your system |
| 21:33.41 | n0arch | so you need to set up your router |
| 21:33.44 | n0arch | so that when people try to connect |
| 21:33.50 | n0arch | it sends them through the router |
| 21:33.52 | n0arch | into your network |
| 21:33.57 | n0arch | to the system in question |
| 21:34.06 | okdamn | ah damn so its all about router permissions?:O |
| 21:34.10 | n0arch | yeah |
| 21:34.15 | okdamn | shit :( |
| 21:34.17 | eurobit | okdamn: have you ever gone into your router |
| 21:34.27 | eurobit | it is a simple change |
| 21:34.27 | okdamn | eurobit: nope :P |
| 21:34.39 | eurobit | what brand |
| 21:34.49 | okdamn | its Fastweeb |
| 21:35.29 | eurobit | you in italy |
| 21:35.40 | okdamn | yes |
| 21:35.50 | eurobit | yea i just looked at your whois |
| 21:36.04 | okdamn | shitty connection here |
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| 21:36.15 | okdamn | we still in 1980 |
| 21:36.49 | [BNC]dimitry7 | Italy and IP came together hehe |
| 21:37.04 | okdamn | eheheh |
| 21:37.14 | eurobit | call fastwebnet and ask them how to get into your router - but don't tell them what you want to do .. (most isps don't want you running a 'server') say you want to change the password and when can get into it come back and we can help you portforward from the outside to your computer |
| 21:37.29 | okdamn | eurobit: ok thanks :) |
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| 21:37.49 | babaw | hey guys |
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| 21:38.08 | babaw | you all were telling me to use the kernel-package method of building debian kernels |
| 21:38.10 | eurobit | are these pics of gina lolabrigetta ? |
| 21:38.16 | okdamn | thank guys see you around im off really fused :D |
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| 21:38.22 | okdamn | ciao |
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| 21:38.33 | babaw | i read online that it is possible to use kernel-package to build kernel.org vanilla kernels too |
| 21:38.33 | okdamn | eurobit: lol Gina |
| 21:38.35 | babaw | how would i do that? |
| 21:38.47 | EdePopede | good lick with your provider... |
| 21:38.49 | EdePopede | * luck |
| 21:39.24 | okdamn | lips ;) |
| 21:39.30 | okdamn | eheh bye thank you |
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| 21:40.51 | Shadow_7 | babaw: make-kpkg? and copy the /boot/config from a non-vanilla kernel. And sources from kernel.org |
| 21:41.22 | Shadow_7 | babaw: with the usual make oldconfig and all that jazz |
| 21:41.32 | [BNC]dimitry7 | Hi guys. I am using debian 7 to configure a sound card, but I cannot see /dev/dsp device, and I have oss-compat package installed as the docs say. |
| 21:41.51 | Shadow_7 | [BNC]dimitry7: modprobe snd-pcm-oss |
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| 21:42.31 | Shadow_7 | that's the module that provides the /dev/dsp device. /dev/dsp# technically |
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| 21:43.08 | EdePopede | ok. if i select a package for installing with some dependencies, two of them having a direct conflict with each other, aptitude decides to install one of the and keep the other one "not installed". how can i find out WHY it was selected first? |
| 21:43.15 | Ramoss | hey debian's ... i have php 5.4 ver ... however i need 5.5 for some functions ... :( |
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| 21:43.32 | Shadow_7 | EdePopede: dpkg-divert |
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| 21:43.46 | EdePopede | i think i never used it OO |
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| 21:46.27 | EdePopede | File diversions are a way of forcing dpkg(1) not to install a file into its location, but to a diverted location <<< that's why, i think. i don't really trust it Oo |
| 21:46.43 | EdePopede | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:47.46 | EdePopede | selecting mediawiki selects 2 MPMs, but in the end worker is dropped and prefork selected |
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| 21:48.47 | eurobit | Shadow_7: [BNC]dimitry7 was told that a few times already |
| 21:48.58 | n0arch | they both do the same thing but a little differently |
| 21:49.41 | Shadow_7 | EdePopede: which gets used is probably a matter of your $PATH setup |
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| 21:50.35 | Shadow_7 | but there is a default setup and dpkg-divert tells you what that is (in theory) |
| 21:51.43 | [BNC]dimitry7 | Shadow_7, I have done that |
| 21:51.49 | [BNC]dimitry7 | it doest work |
| 21:52.01 | [BNC]dimitry7 | eurobit, it does not work :( |
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| 21:52.25 | Shadow_7 | [BNC]dimitry7: what are you trying to do? there's also snd-mixer-oss and snd-seq-oss depending on needs |
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| 21:53.21 | [BNC]dimitry7 | Shadow_7, I am trying to configure a sound card to make paging work in asterisk |
| 21:53.27 | [BNC]dimitry7 | I have installed oss-compat |
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| 21:53.42 | [BNC]dimitry7 | Ok, this worked 2 weeks ago, suddenly it doesn-t |
| 21:53.53 | Shadow_7 | [BNC]dimitry7: and alsa-base alsa-utils |
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| 21:54.17 | [BNC]dimitry7 | Shadow_7, Yes, both installed |
| 21:54.21 | Shadow_7 | [BNC]dimitry7: have you checked /proc/asound/cards to make sure you didn't swap card order? |
| 21:54.38 | Shadow_7 | the 0 card is always default, unless otherwise specified |
| 21:54.44 | [BNC]dimitry7 | Shadow_7, there is no /proc/sound directoyy |
| 21:54.48 | [BNC]dimitry7 | * directory |
| 21:54.54 | Shadow_7 | [BNC]dimitry7: /proc/asound |
| 21:55.10 | Shadow_7 | aka a[lsa]sound |
| 21:55.20 | [BNC]dimitry7 | Shadow_7, oh it says: --- no soundcards --- |
| 21:55.58 | eurobit | [BNC]dimitry7: does lsmod show a few snd_* drivers |
| 21:55.59 | Shadow_7 | [BNC]dimitry7: so probably need to modprobe snd-intel-hda or whatever applies in your case |
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| 21:56.53 | [BNC]dimitry7 | eurobit, yes these: http://paste.debian.net/136738/ |
| 21:57.51 | [BNC]dimitry7 | Shadow_7, snd-intel-hda no module found |
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| 21:59.22 | eurobit | that looks good and no /dev/dsp* |
| 21:59.27 | EdePopede | Shadow_7: both manpages, english and german tell me the same thing, not being what i want to do. "aptitude, WHY do you select that package and drop it later because of conflicts?" THIS is my question |
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| 21:59.51 | Shadow_7 | are you running wheezy or jessie? |
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| 22:00.09 | Vooch | jeezy |
| 22:00.29 | eurobit | [BNC]dimitry7: that looks good and you don't have /dev/dsp* ? test mplayer -v on a mp3 |
| 22:00.56 | eurobit | half wheezy and 1/2 jessie ? |
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| 22:01.35 | mRMans | why is compiz-core installed to the server ? |
| 22:01.40 | mRMans | woops wrong channel |
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| 22:03.48 | Shadow_7 | [BNC]dimitry7: your snd modules are basically everything except the one that is the driver to your soundcard. In that lsmod output |
| 22:04.38 | Shadow_7 | [BNC]dimitry7: any storms or irate employs that fling coffee? Might just be a module that is blacklisted and needs to be otherwise. |
| 22:05.14 | eurobit | Shadow_7: lol yea |
| 22:05.16 | Shadow_7 | [BNC]dimitry7: still need to identify the hardware though. lspci -nn && lsusb |
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| 22:07.02 | eurobit | and soundcore? |
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| 22:08.15 | Shadow_7 | soundcore is oss type stuff. But it still needs a complimenting soundcard specific driver |
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| 22:24.15 | EdePopede | does it make sense, 2 packages recommending each other? php-wikidiff2 and mediawiki do. |
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| 22:26.04 | eurobit | recommening or a co-dependent relationship? |
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| 22:27.28 | helmut_ | hey guys, i have a question regarding regular expression. I will not allow a fullstop at the beginning, but i am not able to do this. how would you do this? This is my regexp at the moment: [^\.]{1}[^\s\\\/?!@]+@[^\s\\\/?!@]+\.[^\s\\\.\/?!@]{2,} |
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| 22:28.22 | rryoumaa | helmut_: there are different re engines out there with different syntax, btw |
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| 22:43.21 | ponyofdeath | anyone know why preseed is hangs if the partman-auto/expert_recpipe string only has a single root partition without swap? |
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| 22:46.32 | [BNC]dimitry7 | Shadow_7, sorry I had to go, someone was knocking at my door |
| 22:46.41 | [BNC]dimitry7 | I have done lspci -nn && lsusb |
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| 22:48.16 | [BNC]dimitry7 | Shadow_7, the sound card is connected via USB. But still can't see it here: http://paste.debian.net/136754/ |
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| 22:55.43 | Finetundra | is there a program that allows inter-user communication |
| 22:56.08 | Dereckson | wall, talk |
| 22:56.09 | n0arch | like write |
| 22:56.12 | n0arch | or wall |
| 22:56.23 | n0arch | `write root pts/0` |
| 22:56.33 | Finetundra | huh? |
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| 22:56.50 | n0arch | you want to talk to other users on the same system rite? |
| 22:56.57 | Finetundra | yes |
| 22:57.08 | n0arch | i usually use the 'write' command |
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| 22:58.04 | Finetundra | yes, but i'm unable to find which users are active. they are logged on via xrdp |
| 22:59.16 | Finetundra | for wahatever reason, the who command doesn't list them |
| 22:59.22 | Finetundra | *whatever |
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| 23:05.05 | DocMAX | hi there |
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| 23:16.47 | raulhugo | hi |
| 23:16.52 | raulhugo | Linux lovers |
| 23:16.55 | raulhugo | xD |
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| 23:17.12 | raulhugo | I'm linux lover too but today have a trouble |
| 23:17.37 | raulhugo | On my job someone buy a notebook HP 240 |
| 23:17.50 | raulhugo | with a wirelss card Qualcomm Atheros QCA9000 |
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| 23:18.29 | raulhugo | I can't found informatión about the driver for Linux. |
| 23:18.54 | raulhugo | someone have a experience with this wireless card over debian? |
| 23:18.55 | raulhugo | Qualcomm Atheros QCA9000 |
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| 23:22.47 | g00se | firmware-atheros might be needed |
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| 23:27.25 | [BNC]dimitry7 | Shadow_7, sorry I had to go, someone was knocking at my door |
| 23:27.28 | [BNC]dimitry7 | I have done lspci -nn && lsusb |
| 23:27.30 | [BNC]dimitry7 | Shadow_7, the sound card is connected via USB. But still can't see it here: http://paste.debian.net/136754/ |
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| 23:33.49 | raulhugo | goosee |
| 23:33.54 | raulhugo | I tried |
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| 23:34.07 | raulhugo | with firmware atheros |
| 23:34.26 | raulhugo | but Qualcoom atheros are another provedor |
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| 23:36.27 | [BNC]dimitry7 | Shadow_7, |
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| 23:52.58 | Shadow_7 | [BNC]dimitry7: check dmesg for hints. You might need a powered usb hub, or it's just an unsupported device |
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| 23:56.27 | Merlin91 | I'm on currently squeeze trying to get a newer application which requires versions of core libraries like pthread, dl, rt stdc++, etc that are linked against libc 2.12, where-as squeeze uses 2.11. Most suggestions online for getting this to work without the source are to use LD_PRELOAD or LD_LIBRARY_PATH against isolated copies of newer versions of those libraries. I was wondering if anyone |
| 23:56.27 | Merlin91 | knew the best way to get the set of those libraries i would need for things to work right on squeeze? (presumabely the right package source to get deb packages i might need from) |
| 23:58.01 | wjtaylor | where do i find aircrack-ng and sbt packages? |
