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| 00:01.30 | critter | hi |
| 00:01.49 | cafuego | or is it? |
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| 00:02.24 | critter | Im trying to install testing on a laptop with wifi on/off on keyboard Fn+F10 |
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| 00:02.55 | critter | But default install doesnt seems to catch that key combination as "wifi on" |
| 00:03.00 | critter | what can I do? please |
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| 00:03.43 | cafuego | 2 things. 1: check that your wifi controller doesn't need additional non-free firmware (info in 'dmesg' output) |
| 00:04.07 | cafuego | 2: Check whether there is a package for your laptop that maps the wifi keys. |
| 00:04.21 | cafuego | You should definitely do 1. |
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| 00:05.08 | Iridos | and how do you know that it's got anything to do with the keys? |
| 00:05.33 | cafuego | yes Iridos. See 1. |
| 00:05.46 | critter | Iridos: because wifi is off, it doesnt show on dmesg |
| 00:06.05 | critter | cafuego: yes, I already installed non-free firmware |
| 00:07.07 | Renard | Hello everyone, end-user with close to no tech exp here. I'd like to know a bit more about packaging / requesting a new package (non critical, game). What's the best way for that? |
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| 00:13.33 | Iridos | dpkg, tell Renard about rfp |
| 00:14.47 | Renard | Well, that's efficient. Thanks! |
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| 00:39.29 | critter | ok finally I managed to turn on my wifi |
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| 00:40.06 | alipoor90 | Hi, when you setup your desktop system or server, how you keep track of changes you usually make to convert it to your desired environment? maintaining a setup script? a check list? or just keeping /etc and dot files? |
| 00:40.15 | critter | but It looks like it doesnt create a device for it on startup (ethX) |
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| 00:41.55 | heurist | alipoor90: etckeeper is quite nice for some of that |
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| 00:44.47 | alipoor90 | Thanks |
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| 01:58.13 | YoStealth | is there any plans on adding pypy3 to debian repo's anytime soon ? |
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| 02:07.24 | osram | It won't be making it into jessie, that's certain. |
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| 02:08.35 | YoStealth | oskie: o how come? |
| 02:09.03 | YoStealth | osram: o how come? |
| 02:09.04 | osram | It's not even in sid and jessie's been frozen last month. |
| 02:10.10 | YoStealth | o i c.. so the frozen is the next debian release then.. i take it... i wonder why it wasn't added at all to even sid.. |
| 02:11.02 | osram | Yes. And I have no idea. Maybe there's no maintainer for it. |
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| 02:11.40 | YoStealth | that sucks. thanks for the info :) |
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| 02:12.37 | osram | Sorry. |
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| 02:13.00 | Lirion | is pypy3 in any way similar to pypy? |
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| 02:13.20 | YoStealth | pypy is for python 2.. and pypy3 is for python 3.. |
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| 02:14.04 | YoStealth | which u would think debian would have pypy3 as python 3 is so popular.. |
| 02:14.34 | nmschulte | osram: is this something I should attempt? |
| 02:14.45 | nmschulte | Playing back a blu-ray disc in Sid, that is. |
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| 02:15.25 | osram | Why not? |
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| 02:15.41 | YoStealth | be mindful though pypy3 only works right now for python3.2.. i think.. i am trying to see if they have any plans for the new release of python 3.4.2(current) |
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| 02:16.54 | COOOOOOOL | sup |
| 02:17.16 | Lady_Aleena | Does anyone know when Wheezy will be updating KDE and all of its programs? I am getting tired of having the people in #kde telling me my software is old. |
| 02:17.49 | Lady_Aleena | I'm hoping soon so maybe an update will fix KMail. |
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| 02:18.55 | Lady_Aleena | Currently when I try to open KMail at the command line, I get http://paste.debian.net/137483/ and it doesn't give me back my prompt unless I ctrl-c. |
| 02:20.15 | YoStealth | Lady_Aleena: you could use debian jessie (testing) repo and upgrade your software ? * don't take my word for it though... use ur best judgement ;) |
| 02:20.46 | Lirion | before lifting your entire system to testing there's backports and apt pinning |
| 02:20.51 | Lady_Aleena | YoStealth, I'm on Wheezy, so I have to wait until the software release cabal releases updates. |
| 02:21.27 | YoStealth | lol |
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| 02:24.05 | YoStealth | Lady_Aleena: u could always try thunderbird if you cant even use kmail.. better to have something working then nothing at all no? |
| 02:25.25 | Lady_Aleena | YoStealth, I've already started using KMail to receive email, and I don't understand how to convert KMail to IceDove. I don't want to lose all of those emails. |
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| 02:27.09 | YoStealth | Lady_Aleena: depends on the settings you used for your mail, normally your server would store up to 7days of mail if its recently u used kmail |
| 02:27.23 | Lady_Aleena | YoStealth, POP3 |
| 02:29.33 | YoStealth | Lady_Aleena: try it.. |
| 02:29.35 | Lirion | I know why I've abandoned pop back in ... 2006? multiple client access becomes a sheer mess |
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| 02:29.54 | Lirion | anyhow: that i18n message seems to be of no relevance. which leaves open some issue between kde and dbus |
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| 02:30.20 | Lirion | you may want to check whether you (r system or yourself) changed something there |
| 02:30.25 | Lady_Aleena | YoStealth, I have emails saved as far back as 2000 I want to save. |
| 02:30.33 | un214 | How do I change X resolution |
| 02:30.47 | un214 | after running a fullscreen program that crashed, I'm stuck in unusably low resolution |
| 02:30.54 | Lirion | besides: an upgrade of kde could be done via backports. I did this in my wheezy days as well, but mind that you shouldn't just upgrade every package on your system to backport state |
| 02:31.02 | un214 | unfortunately starting in Jessie it remembers cross-reboot now |
| 02:31.24 | un214 | expected: 1920x1080, got: 640x480 |
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| 02:31.36 | Lirion | swap POP3 for IMAP and import your mail back to the server....... |
| 02:31.38 | YoStealth | Lady_Aleena: o ouch :s.. i don't know much about those software to help you more... sorry, * do keep backups * no matter what u endup doing.. |
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| 02:32.24 | YoStealth | Lirion: does it really do that? sync your mails back to the server? |
| 02:32.39 | un214 | yes IMAP does |
| 02:32.48 | un214 | X screen resolution ? |
| 02:32.52 | Lirion | if you use imap and build up a folder structure then everything will stay as you expect it no matter which client on whoich computer you use |
| 02:32.55 | YoStealth | only if the server email acoun will allow the stored filesizes... |
| 02:33.06 | Lirion | pop3 sincerely sucks if you are an endpoint client. |
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| 02:33.42 | un214 | I'm currently too stuck to use a web browser |
| 02:33.54 | YoStealth | i use pop3 then again i keep what i need, but i do get what u mean, most of my clients use imap and like to store their emails on the server.. |
| 02:34.16 | Lirion | you can still choose what you sync with the server and what not |
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| 02:34.43 | YoStealth | good point. ;) |
| 02:34.51 | Lady_Aleena | Lirion, huh? |
| 02:35.16 | YoStealth | Lady_Aleena: can u even get into your kmail ? |
| 02:35.40 | Lady_Aleena | YoStealth, after 2 tries each time I want to use it. |
| 02:36.34 | Lirion | and by the way Lady_Aleena https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=97400 does this help you? |
| 02:37.02 | Lirion | whatever nepomuk is :) |
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| 02:37.25 | COOOOOOOL | hi how are you? |
| 02:37.42 | Lirion | but everything points back to some kde issue. |
| 02:38.04 | COOOOOOOL | what haviong problems with |
| 02:38.15 | Snowman23 | Probably getting this a lot, but the recently released ntpd vulns, CVE-2014-9295 etc etc, they're not patched in 4.2.6.p5 are they? |
| 02:38.21 | YoStealth | Lady_Aleena: well the solution is to get into your mail account and change your POP3 to IMAP this way it will take all the mails your got and upload it back to the server like sync it.. |
| 02:38.42 | Lirion | YoStealth this will not solve kmail throwing these errors. |
| 02:39.07 | YoStealth | Lady_Aleena: once its safe in the mail server, you can user any email software you want and set it up as IMAP and you will get all your email on it, also have a backup on the server, very good solution |
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| 02:39.39 | Lady_Aleena | YoStealth, um, this is GB of emails. |
| 02:40.33 | Lady_Aleena | My email provider would probably have a conniption fit if all of a sudden they saw me hogging GB of space for my email. |
| 02:40.42 | YoStealth | Lady_Aleena: or wait. :) |
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| 02:41.18 | YoStealth | Lady_Aleena: well make sure your provider has that much space of course.. and your email account is setup for it... |
| 02:42.08 | Lady_Aleena | YoStealth, my provider probably won't let me just reupload all of my old emails to them. |
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| 02:43.08 | YoStealth | Lady_Aleena: why not? as long as they provide the space you can use it however u want to use it. upload/download whatever... |
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| 02:43.14 | Lady_Aleena | I have a pop3 account. Also, it is not emails from just one email account but MANY email accounts, some of which are dead because the site which provided them died. |
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| 02:45.11 | sheap | how would I read line by line from 2 different variables and then output that to one file? like var1line1/var2line2 var1line2/var2line2 >> file.txt |
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| 02:48.15 | Lirion | sheap basically this is shell scripting and independent from your distro but rather dependent on your shell. but try to look at loops and arrays and how you assemble your variables. and then google. |
| 02:48.27 | pingfloyd | ask in #bash |
| 02:48.32 | sheap | ok ty |
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| 02:48.48 | pingfloyd | #bash is better than google |
| 02:49.18 | Lirion | google is a bit like picking the nose, but you find your stuff often enough :) |
| 02:49.37 | Lirion | but irc is still better in a channel that's alive, that's right |
| 02:49.39 | pingfloyd | Lirion: there is so many misnomers on bash though |
| 02:50.30 | pingfloyd | so many examples, guides, and tutorial do all sorts of bad things, like not even quoting expansions |
| 02:50.44 | Lady_Aleena | YoStealth and Lirion, just so you know, I hardly know anything about email other than a few things to set up email clients to download them. I had been using Microsoft Outlook for almost 2 decades which only had one file where it stored EVERYTHING. I don't know anything about other formats other than they are a pain in the butt to figure out. Right now I am so afraid of a hard drive crash which would cause me to lose all of these emails be |
| 02:50.44 | Lady_Aleena | cause I don't understand how they are being stored. |
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| 02:51.05 | Lirion | Lady_Aleena ~/.kde/share/apps/kmail/mail/ |
| 02:51.27 | Lady_Aleena | Lirion, I forgot what the tilde means. |
| 02:51.43 | YoStealth | user account directory |
| 02:51.56 | Lirion | your shell will probably undertand it anyway. but it's a synonym for $HOME, which points to /home/`whoami` |
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| 02:52.57 | pingfloyd | Lady_Aleena: ~ expands your home directory |
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| 02:53.39 | pingfloyd | Lady_Aleena: do: echo ~ |
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| 02:54.04 | YoStealth | Lady_Aleena: ya mails are very pain if you want to store old emails.. also doesn't outlook encode its database files.. |
| 02:54.41 | pingfloyd | outlook crams it all in an .pst file |
| 02:54.58 | Lady_Aleena | pingfloyd, which was easily findable and copyable. |
| 02:55.24 | pingfloyd | can be in the .ost file too which is the just the offline version |
| 02:55.25 | Lady_Aleena | I lost my address book when I left Windows. |
| 02:55.40 | pingfloyd | Lady_Aleena: of course |
| 02:55.46 | YoStealth | technology changes, why i liked that IMAP solution cause it keeps a backup copy on the server as well.. so you can switch email software but not lose your emails.. |
| 02:55.54 | pingfloyd | Lady_Aleena: there's also utils where you don't even have to mess with the file |
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| 02:56.15 | pingfloyd | Lady_Aleena: this is where other email clients can learn from Outlook |
| 02:56.16 | Lirion | there's also util to migrate your stuff away from kmail |
| 02:56.20 | Lirion | whatever you prefer... |
| 02:56.25 | YoStealth | Lady_Aleena: same thing happened to me, just haven't bothered with it.. |
| 02:56.27 | Lirion | i never ever used kmail in my life |
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| 02:56.31 | Lirion | i just googled it |
| 02:56.40 | Lirion | it's not that hard...... |
| 02:56.51 | Lady_Aleena | pingfloyd, I already went through the harsh process of extracting the data from the .pst to KMail. |
| 02:56.52 | pingfloyd | Lady_Aleena: the mac verions of outlook use a database instead |
| 02:56.58 | pingfloyd | Lady_Aleena: and it is horrible |
| 02:57.45 | Lady_Aleena | Kmail wouldn't read the data file created for my address book. |
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| 02:58.03 | YoStealth | did u guys all feel that freedom when when dumped windows for good? that :D YES!!! Finally.. the damn curse. |
| 02:58.06 | pingfloyd | Lady_Aleena: it probably doesn't know how to handle the outlook calendars |
| 02:58.38 | Lady_Aleena | pingfloyd, I don't need the calendar, but I would like to have my address book back. |
| 02:58.41 | pingfloyd | Lady_Aleena: i.e. maybe the converter couldn't do much about the calendars. The Calendars are always the thing that keep people stuck in Outlook. |
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| 02:59.23 | pingfloyd | Lady_Aleena: oh, not sure why I was thinking calendars. That's how often they're an issue. |
| 02:59.26 | Lady_Aleena | I put my calendar into Google Calendar. |
| 02:59.33 | YoStealth | normally there are plugins to import other mail clients database/address books.. |
| 02:59.47 | Lirion | vcard is a pile of mess that's never been properly standardized. but there should be some workaround to get at your outlook address books... |
| 03:00.25 | pingfloyd | Lady_Aleena: maybe you need to use a better converter for importing the calendars |
| 03:00.30 | pingfloyd | address book |
| 03:00.37 | Lady_Aleena | BRB...I need to go do something afk which will take me about 10 minutes. |
| 03:00.54 | Lirion | good luck. and good night. |
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| 03:01.09 | Lady_Aleena | Lirion, you leaving in 10 minutes? |
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| 03:01.29 | pingfloyd | Lady_Aleena: what you should do is a keep an ldap address book |
| 03:01.38 | pingfloyd | Lady_Aleena: then you can have almost everything use it |
| 03:01.55 | pingfloyd | it's a pita to get working, but worth it in the long run |
| 03:02.29 | pingfloyd | because of portability factor without having to mess with it ever |
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| 03:22.21 | Lady_Aleena | pingfloyd, I was off keyboard to test my blood sugar for my diabetes and do some home exercises for my physical therapy. I've never heard of ldap before. |
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| 03:45.41 | critter | hi |
| 03:46.04 | critter | How do I get Fn keys to work on my laptop? |
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| 03:55.31 | COOOOOOOL | press the blue function key |
| 03:55.35 | COOOOOOOL | fn |
| 03:55.42 | COOOOOOOL | then the f1 keys |
| 03:55.47 | COOOOOOOL | or blue highlated function |
| 03:56.40 | critter | COOOOOOOL: you kidding right? |
| 03:56.46 | COOOOOOOL | no |
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| 03:57.21 | prpl | when one uses synptic to download an app, say...xchat, where does it download those files to please...ty |
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| 03:58.03 | WangDang | prpl: /var/cache/apt/archives I believe |
| 03:58.33 | WangDang | prpl: /var/cache/apt/archives/partial until the file is complete |
| 03:58.46 | critter | COOOOOOOL: .... |
| 03:58.55 | COOOOOOOL | ? |
| 03:59.06 | prpl | yep...thanks WangDang |
| 03:59.22 | bookmark | i burned the netinstall dvd onto a cd lol |
| 03:59.30 | bookmark | no wonder it wouldn't boot |
| 04:00.43 | bookmark | really why do they even make a netinst dvd? |
| 04:00.45 | bookmark | wtf |
| 04:00.59 | bookmark | seems retarded |
| 04:01.22 | bookmark | almost like as retarded as me |
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| 04:02.17 | bookmark | before i burn this one is it for intel cpus? debian-7.7.0-amd64-lxde-CD-1.iso |
| 04:02.26 | COOOOOOOL | it says amd |
| 04:02.39 | COOOOOOOL | im not sure if it works with intel |
| 04:02.51 | bookmark | me neither, but its all there was that i saw |
| 04:02.56 | prpl | how does one install those downloaded packages at a later date...with dpkg? |
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| 04:04.28 | bookmark | is ia64/ intel? |
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| 04:04.41 | COOOOOOOL | i think thats the titanium one |
| 04:04.49 | bookmark | like i7? |
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| 04:05.19 | COOOOOOOL | IA-64 (also called Intel Itanium architecture) |
| 04:05.30 | COOOOOOOL | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IA-64 |
| 04:05.47 | bookmark | damnit i just wasted 20 minutes of my life |
| 04:05.54 | COOOOOOOL | lol |
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| 04:06.14 | bookmark | oh well |
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| 04:07.09 | bookmark | i hate linux |
| 04:07.11 | bookmark | ;p |
| 04:07.26 | COOOOOOOL | :) |
| 04:07.27 | bookmark | but linux shells are cheaper than windows shells |
| 04:07.29 | bookmark | so i have to use it |
| 04:07.40 | COOOOOOOL | oh |
| 04:07.45 | COOOOOOOL | what linux u been using? |
| 04:07.50 | COOOOOOOL | distro |
| 04:07.54 | bookmark | i use windows |
| 04:07.59 | yargh | she sells nix shells down by the gnu store |
| 04:08.10 | COOOOOOOL | y use using linux now? |
| 04:08.24 | bookmark | i used to use linux in the lenny days |
| 04:08.27 | yargh | she's lady liberty, of course |
| 04:08.30 | bookmark | and prior to that |
| 04:08.36 | COOOOOOOL | what distro |
| 04:08.41 | bookmark | but i'm so used to windows now |
| 04:08.45 | bookmark | debian |
| 04:08.45 | yargh | and she sells them for a song, the song of freedom |
| 04:09.24 | COOOOOOOL | so ur gonna quit windows |
| 04:09.30 | COOOOOOOL | and use linux |
| 04:09.45 | bookmark | im in windows right now and running linux virtually |
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| 04:09.58 | bookmark | i wouldn't let it on my master boot record |
| 04:10.10 | COOOOOOOL | waht do u use it as a server |
| 04:10.18 | bookmark | for a game i'm designing |
| 04:10.32 | COOOOOOOL | C++? |
| 04:10.51 | bookmark | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fe5-qDHxCjM |
| 04:10.53 | bookmark | yeah |
| 04:10.58 | bookmark | hopefully webgl also |
| 04:11.13 | bookmark | but ive only got a 3d object loader written in webgl so far |
| 04:12.04 | COOOOOOOL | cool are u a computer sceince major |
| 04:12.20 | bookmark | nope self taught |
| 04:12.31 | COOOOOOOL | waht u do for a living |
| 04:12.40 | bookmark | deliver pizzas |
| 04:12.47 | COOOOOOOL | pizza hut? |
| 04:13.08 | bookmark | papa johns |
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| 04:19.51 | likecolacola | is there any cross-plataform software for remote desktop ? |
| 04:20.14 | bookmark | vnc? |
| 04:20.26 | likecolacola | a friend need to connect to a debian stable from a windows via desktop, one more detail no port forwarding |
| 04:20.33 | likecolacola | bookmark, he can't do port forwarding |
| 04:21.02 | bookmark | why doesn't he just install his own? |
| 04:21.06 | OSVG | Local lan? |
| 04:21.08 | bookmark | use vbox thats what i do |
| 04:22.33 | likecolacola | he has an apache - mysql debian stable server at home and needs to connect via desktop from his university ( windows ), the only little problem is that he can't do port forwarding |
| 04:24.20 | OSVG | Why can't he do port forwarding at home? He has an apache server that doesn't face the internet? |
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| 04:31.36 | WangDang | prpl: yes, dpkg |
| 04:32.10 | OSVG | like: Teamviewer, if he can get someone to install it. |
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| 04:33.01 | OSVG | Would be easier for him to pay for a VPS for a short period of time somewhere like Digital Ocean and run Debian there. |
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| 04:45.08 | dm7freek | Please help me with this mounting problem: https://gist.github.com/dmtucker/3f8f4d40c6c5bdc23401 |
| 04:48.34 | likecolacola | OSVG, oh two veeeery nice ideas, to get a VPS or to install teamviewer, thanks a lot hehe |
| 04:48.44 | likecolacola | OSVG, i will try to help him installing it tomorrow |
| 04:49.08 | likecolacola | if it fails there's always a plan B :p |
| 04:49.14 | likecolacola | thanks |
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| 04:52.26 | OSVG | np |
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| 04:52.44 | OSVG | If you hunt, his first few months of DO specifically may be free with a coupon FYI. |
| 04:54.07 | likecolacola | OSVG, okey thx again |
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| 05:09.50 | linuxd | how to set locals? |
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| 05:22.49 | narbeh | Hi, Whats the best USB Disk which is stable if any problem occurs? Under hard circumstances |
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| 05:27.45 | Epakai | i'm trying to make policykit let me eject drives so i created this file ( http://paste.debian.net/137484/ ) and it seems to be working for mount/umount, what am i missing to be able to eject (via thunar for example)? |
| 05:31.06 | Epakai | of course, it tells you in the prompt what action it's trying, just had to add it |
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| 06:52.52 | Hell-Razor | hey fellas.. I'm very confused here on how to upgrade a package... I'm looking at installing an more up to date version of wine seeing as 1.4.1 in debian 7.7 is super obsolete. i added the sid ftp to my sources.list and now I'm getting all sorts of errors when i just try to upgrade wine |
| 06:54.03 | Hell-Razor | wish there was a better way to say it lol |
| 06:56.56 | qjqqyy | ,v ntp |
| 06:56.58 | judd | Package: ntp on i386 -- squeeze: 1:4.2.6.p2+dfsg-1+b1; wheezy: 1:4.2.6.p5+dfsg-2; sid: 1:4.2.6.p5+dfsg-3.1+b1; jessie: 1:4.2.6.p5+dfsg-3.1+b1 |
| 06:57.22 | qjqqyy | still not patched... |
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| 06:58.02 | qjqqyy | or is itnot scared of https://ics-cert.us-cert.gov/advisories/ICSA-14-353-01 |
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| 06:58.16 | tm512 | apparently I can't upgrade to testing |
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| 06:58.29 | tm512 | has errors with man-db something or other |
| 06:58.34 | tm512 | retrying heh |
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| 07:03.41 | tm512 | not that I asked for it, but... |
| 07:03.45 | tm512 | whatever |
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| 07:27.15 | HZun | how stable are the debian backports (compared to "standard" debian stable)? |
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| 07:33.53 | dutchfish | linuxd, https://packages.debian.org/nl/wheezy/task-kde-desktop |
| 07:34.56 | dutchfish | linuxd, also take a peak at the wiki, if you want to install a debian/kde from scratch without any other wm |
| 07:36.22 | dutchfish | HZun, as stable as stable, the only thing to keep in mind that sometimes, security fixes for backports get released later, depending on the package involved |
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| 07:36.53 | dutchfish | HZun, so i run it on non critical deploys |
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| 07:37.59 | tm512 | does suspend not work on jessie without systemd? |
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| 07:38.13 | tm512 | acpid doesn't install |
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| 07:38.45 | dutchfish | tm512, acpid can run on either sysV or systemd if configured right |
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| 07:39.36 | dutchfish | tm512, https://wiki.debian.org/Debate/initsystem/systemd |
| 07:39.37 | HZun | dutchfish, i got the impression that backports are packages from testing that are "repackaged" to run on stable (by "repackage" i mean that dependencies are changed and such). so shouldnt backports have the same stability as testing and not stable? |
| 07:39.53 | tm512 | complains about netlink support in the kernel |
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| 07:40.26 | dutchfish | HZun, thats right, up to the point that backported ones sometimes get minor debian fixes as stable gets |
| 07:40.35 | tm512 | either way, bumping up to sid. I assume the only repo I need is sid main? no sid/updates right? |
| 07:40.59 | dutchfish | !sid |
| 07:41.00 | HZun | dutchfish, alright thanks alot. |
| 07:41.14 | dutchfish | HZun, yw |
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| 07:44.53 | dutchfish | tm512, Between 3.5 and 3.6 the "netlink_kernel_create" function changed fyi |
| 07:45.43 | tm512 | dunno how that really helps me. |
| 07:45.57 | tm512 | does debian just not support acpid anymore? |
| 07:46.06 | dutchfish | tm512, only if you are coding yourself |
| 07:46.32 | dutchfish | tm512, otherwise be mor specific with your Q's |
| 07:46.45 | dutchfish | s/mor/more |
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| 07:47.33 | tm512 | I'll see what happens with it when I run sid |
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| 07:48.32 | minnesotags | Is there a command line tool in debian to use avconv to bulk convert wav files to flac in a directory tree? |
| 07:48.42 | tm512 | apt is really slow |
| 07:48.51 | tm512 | or so it seems |
| 07:51.24 | babilen | tm512: And you will probably have a lot fewer problems if you were to use the default init system (i.e. systemd) while tracking a development release. Either way you will require the shim packages. Please also read <sid faq>, install <apt-listbugs> and make use of #debian-next on irc.oftc.net (cf. /topic) |
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| 07:53.34 | tm512 | I pinned systemd to -1 before upgrading to testing |
| 07:53.44 | tm512 | so sysvinit stayed around |
| 07:53.49 | tm512 | and everything is working fine it seems |
| 07:54.28 | babilen | good, any particular reason for that? |
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| 07:56.19 | tm512 | because I don't wish to run systemd on this |
| 07:56.59 | tm512 | hmm, suspend still won't work. acpid runs fine now though |
| 07:57.14 | OSVG | If you don't want systemd, why upgrade/use debian? |
| 07:57.33 | babilen | Yes, sure. I assumed that you do things in order to achieve the outcome of that action. I was rather asking about your motivation for that, but lets move on. |
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| 07:59.27 | tm512 | OSVG: because it's less hassle than anything else for powerpc |
| 07:59.57 | RayzrShrp | is there a way to see what source a package was installed from? |
| 08:00.38 | OSVG | There are debian based distributions that do not use systemd...or you could just not upgrade. |
| 08:00.38 | tm512 | except maybe freebsd or openbsd, either of which I'd run instead of linub but I enjoy hardware support and having a fancy framebuffer (going to use fbterm) |
| 08:00.44 | tm512 | linux* |
| 08:00.49 | babilen | RayzrShrp: You find that information in the PTS linked from http://packages.debian.org for example |
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| 08:01.43 | RayzrShrp | babilen: well i have weechat installed and i think it came from backports but im not sure |
| 08:02.08 | tm512 | OSVG: only ubuntu still has readily available powerpc images |
| 08:02.14 | babilen | RayzrShrp: Ah, you mean which repository you installed from rather than which source package |
| 08:02.16 | tm512 | not upgrading is a non-solution |
| 08:02.37 | babilen | dselect: tell RayzrShrp -about which repo |
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| 08:03.25 | babilen | RayzrShrp: That will, however, only show you the current policy. You might find some hints in /var/log/apt/term.log* as to what you did in the past. |
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| 08:07.22 | dutchfish | tm512, i havent seen one single argument, why you dont want to use systemd, we could discuss this further in #debian-offtopic if you like, unless you have a more specific debian related question. |
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| 08:09.41 | broosky | can someone advise the syntax to tar an entire directory recursively and in 1gb file chunks pls? |
| 08:09.48 | babilen | would also be interesting if it works with systemd (as a datapoint) |
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| 08:14.00 | tm512 | dutchfish: I can't think of a good reason to run it if I can avoid it. It does not seem like good software. It seems very intrusive and bloated. |
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| 08:14.19 | dutchfish | broosky, read the manpage, you can do that with split option, like `tar czvf - source ¦ split -b 650m tarpiece-` |
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| 08:15.56 | dutchfish | tm512, proove it, making blatent statements doesnt help us or yourself without logs, error lines or anything |
| 08:15.56 | tm512 | I have it installed still on my arch linux pc since it came by default, I'm just relatively underwhelmed by it. I do prefer tools that perform limited tasks instead of huge monolithic systems |
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| 08:16.33 | dutchfish | tm512, i have no clue about arch, sorry, i use only Debian |
| 08:17.10 | broosky | dutchfish i ve been trying the manuals and google alredy |
| 08:17.57 | broosky | im not sure if the line you wrote would take a whole directory AND whats in them |
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| 08:18.01 | broosky | dont see a -r |
| 08:18.09 | broosky | anyway i ll just have to create some dummy sandbox |
| 08:18.22 | broosky | no easy way out |
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| 08:19.22 | RayzrShrp | so is conky still king for system monitoring? |
| 08:20.06 | babilen | RayzrShrp: I prefer grafana, influxdb and riemann |
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| 08:20.41 | babilen | but conky is still around for personal computer monitoring and I see no reason why you shouldn't use it if you want to |
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| 08:20.57 | dutchfish | broosky, just use the split option and recursevely can only be done by comressing it to gz, tar handles each dir as a separate output |
| 08:22.08 | dutchfish | broosky, something like `tar zcvf dir1.tar.gz dir1/` |
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| 08:22.17 | broosky | and now into chunks :) |
| 08:22.45 | dutchfish | broosky, reread all i said, all the neccesary info is in it |
| 08:22.46 | broosky | maybe i ll go through 2 archives, but that wouldnt be efficient |
| 08:23.06 | broosky | i have problem putting it up together |
| 08:23.23 | dutchfish | broosky, i admit tar can be a pita at first glance ;) |
| 08:23.37 | broosky | yes indeed |
| 08:23.41 | RayzrShrp | so for personal computer monitoring conky is king still? |
| 08:23.41 | broosky | those - and | and --- |
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| 08:25.14 | dutchfish | broosky, if you really want to put your nails into it, study LPI part 1 and 2 |
| 08:25.33 | broosky | tar -zcvf home | split --bytes=1000MB home.tar.gz |
| 08:25.36 | broosky | would this work? |
| 08:25.44 | dutchfish | broosky, test it |
| 08:25.44 | broosky | i dont really wanna study, i just wanna compress the damn directory |
| 08:25.50 | broosky | why does everything require studies on linux |
| 08:26.10 | dutchfish | broosky, maybe, you dont need us then next time? ;) |
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| 08:26.33 | broosky | relax |
| 08:26.43 | dutchfish | fair enough |
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| 08:26.45 | broosky | and i did achieve this a year or two ago |
| 08:26.54 | broosky | its just a small pita |
| 08:27.10 | broosky | great achievement to compress a directory ;) |
| 08:27.24 | dutchfish | broosky, actually i had the same problem, until i started to make notes of my actions, that helps alot, also .history is your friend |
| 08:27.47 | broosky | no history here because that server is gone :( |
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| 08:28.18 | dutchfish | mumbles something about backups .... |
| 08:29.07 | broosky | all right i guess theres only one way to find out |
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| 08:30.16 | broosky | nope that didnt work |
| 08:30.48 | broosky | i give up i will just go through 2 archives |
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| 08:31.31 | broosky | or maybe this |
| 08:31.31 | broosky | tar cvzf - dir/ | split --bytes=200MB - sda1.backup.tar.gz. |
| 08:31.55 | broosky | looks promising, for a sunday linux user all those pipes and stuffs can be confusing |
| 08:32.05 | dutchfish | broosky, http://paste.debian.net/137488/ |
| 08:32.20 | broosky | whoah |
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| 08:33.27 | broosky | thanks dutchfish but there was some comm breakdown, since i know how to do that :) |
| 08:33.34 | broosky | problem is adding file chunks on top of that |
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| 08:33.43 | broosky | but appreciate the effort |
| 08:33.48 | dutchfish | broosky, be carefull |
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| 08:34.21 | CQ | any ideas what this means? W: Failed to fetch http://linux.dropbox.com/debian/dists/wheezy/main/binary-i386/Packages: Bad header line ... according to https://www.dropbox.com/en/help/246 this should be OK |
| 08:34.33 | broosky | i confirm dutchfish the line i pasted works like a charm |
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| 08:34.40 | dutchfish | broosky, :) |
| 08:34.45 | broosky | i was just confused why the - is suddenly dropped |
| 08:34.53 | broosky | when calling arguments zcvf |
| 08:35.04 | tm512 | cool. sound is broken |
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| 08:35.51 | dutchfish | broosky, now, make notes what you did and have fun, chears |
| 08:36.01 | broosky | it was one of the first links in google i studied already :) |
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| 08:36.36 | broosky | understanding why the dash is dropped infront of zcvf would be helpful in atteining the higher knowledge |
| 08:36.56 | dutchfish | broosky, LIP 1, at the top of my head |
| 08:37.03 | dutchfish | s/LIP/LPI |
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| 08:38.15 | dutchfish | broosky, https://www.lpi.org/linux-certifications/programs/lpic-1/exam-101 |
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| 08:45.50 | broosky | dutchfish im not a linux professional |
| 08:45.57 | tm512 | and great. linux crashes when suspending |
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| 08:46.05 | broosky | and believe me, i got other stuff to learn about in my free time |
| 08:46.06 | tm512 | segfaults |
| 08:46.08 | broosky | we cant all be gurus |
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| 08:46.30 | dutchfish | broosky, fair enough |
| 08:46.50 | minnesotags | I'm guessing my question got lost because it plopped in yet another systemd back and forth, but is there a command line tool in debian to use avconv to bulk convert wav files to flac in a directory tree? |
| 08:48.02 | dutchfish | minnesotags, if i am not mistaken you can encode with flac out of riff/wav directly |
| 08:48.06 | minnesotags | Or, is there another command line tool to batch convert wav to flac? |
| 08:48.38 | tm512 | ffmpeg |
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| 08:50.22 | minnesotags | I have avconv commands within an Ampache server for transcoding, but I'm new to using any of this just via command line. Problem is I have thousands of songs I need to batch translate. |
| 08:52.12 | minnesotags | So, flac -whatever_tag1 -whatever_tag2 /usr/dir/whatever/*.wav some output blah_blah_something_something? |
| 08:52.45 | minnesotags | Or ffmpeg copy_paste_above_type_stuff? |
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| 08:54.20 | tm512 | while read file ; do ffmpeg -i "$file" -acodec flac "${file%.wav}.flac" ; done < <(find path/to/music -name "*.wav" -type f) |
| 08:54.54 | tm512 | that would convert every wav file under the path you pass to find |
| 08:54.59 | tm512 | and it would keep the originals |
| 08:56.48 | minnesotags | tm512, Ah! Ok, muchos gracias. I wasn't sure if there was already a process and I had been looking. |
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| 08:57.44 | minnesotags | I think flac output files are .ogg or .oga? |
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| 08:58.13 | tm512 | no, not unless you're containing the streams in an ogg container |
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| 08:58.34 | tm512 | I don't know any reason to do that really. |
| 08:59.21 | minnesotags | The reason I need to change them to flac format is so they can be tagged. You can't tag wave files. |
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| 09:02.01 | tm512 | flac can be tagged. I would worry about tagging them after conversion. |
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| 09:02.56 | tm512 | suspend and audio work for me on kernel 3.2.0 from wheezy |
| 09:03.00 | tm512 | http://ppcluddite.blogspot.com/2013/09/a-debian-jessie-update.html |
| 09:03.22 | tm512 | found that post. looks like bug reports have been sent and largely ignored... |
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| 09:11.01 | minnesotags | Thanks tm512, I'm only using this on an Ampache server on a Wheezy virtual machine, so no devices, etc.. Apparently, once you have files in flac (or mpeg, or...) you can use musicbrainz, Picard, etc. and actually edit tags on the files. It is not really possible to do that for wav files. |
| 09:11.12 | minnesotags | Interesting link. |
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| 09:15.19 | soffio | hi, how can i clean my system after removing a package with `aptitude purge`? all deps are still there |
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| 09:25.15 | tm512 | for some reason they moved i2c-powermac to a builtin. wonder if that has anything to do with the breakage |
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| 09:28.48 | rtur | Hi guys. What's a good way to delete a file from a .deb package ? I am updating a debian package and it contains a file in /etc/apt we no longer want there, if I just remove it from the .deb it probably will stay there. I would add a couple lines into the post install script, is there a better way ? |
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| 09:30.47 | RayzrShrp | anybody know why systemctl is showing a failed on systemd-modules-load.service |
| 09:31.05 | RayzrShrp | or how to see what is failing? totally new to this systemd |
| 09:31.10 | RayzrShrp | upgraded wheezy to jessie |
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| 09:34.13 | rtur | RayzrShrp: journalctl -xe will give you the error logs I think. Or systemctl status servicename |
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| 09:35.46 | RayzrShrp | hmmm anybody know what fuse is? |
| 09:36.26 | rtur | mounting stuff from userspace |
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| 09:37.32 | RayzrShrp | ok i think i had someone help me setup a swap disk under wheezy and now thats broken |
| 09:37.45 | RayzrShrp | cause now free doesnt show a swap at all |
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| 09:38.19 | samba35 | i am planning to build a system for virtualization server with 4-5 guest ,with 16 gb ram ,which board and cpu do you recommand ,i want to use pci passthrougt |
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| 09:39.37 | rtur | RayzrShrp check dmesg|grep -C2 swap |
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| 09:40.07 | SirLagz | samba35: ##hardware could probably help with that |
| 09:40.18 | SirLagz | samba35: but I'm hosting around 7 VMs on a Q9400 with 8GB of RAM. |
| 09:40.56 | RayzrShrp | rtur: that returns nothing |
| 09:41.01 | samba35 | cool , 7 vm with 8 gb ram |
| 09:41.09 | rtur | RayzrShrp is the swapfile set in your fstab ? |
| 09:41.36 | RayzrShrp | rtur: i would be happy to check if you could be so kind as to help me with how to do that |
| 09:41.43 | RayzrShrp | rtur: will mount show me? |
| 09:41.45 | minnesotags | I would recommend a used HP ML350 G5 that you can generally get for around $125-$150 complete with memory, drives, two nics, etc.. |
| 09:41.48 | samba35 | presenlty i am using 2 guest on kvm when i start 2 guest it consume 80% memory |
| 09:41.51 | SirLagz | samba35: depends on what you're going to do with the VMs |
| 09:42.05 | samba35 | check with system monitor |
| 09:42.34 | rtur | RayzrShrp: It will only list mounted fs. The file is /etc/fstab , it should have a line like "/pathtoswapfile none swap defaults 0 0 |
| 09:42.41 | samba35 | SirLagz: do you use intel qurad core cpu ? |
| 09:42.47 | RayzrShrp | rtur: yeah thats not in there |
| 09:42.54 | samba35 | and which motherboard |
| 09:43.20 | RayzrShrp | rtur: i seem to recall when i built this VMS i was dumb and didnt build a swap partition so someone helped me create a file that was used as a swap |
| 09:43.40 | RayzrShrp | rtur: but upgrading from wheezy to jessie appears to have borked that |
| 09:44.08 | rtur | RayzrShrp: It shouldn't have I think, but it appears it has :) |
| 09:44.35 | RayzrShrp | rtur: actually my /etc/fstab is blank |
| 09:44.36 | SirLagz | samba35: I'm using a HP dc7900 as my ESXi hosts |
| 09:44.50 | minnesotags | samba35, save yourself several hundred dollars building something new and get a used G5 HP. For 7-10 VMs it will give you all the performance you could ever need for less than $200. |
| 09:44.53 | rtur | RayzrShrp Oh.. but your system boots ? |
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| 09:45.03 | RayzrShrp | rtur: yeah amazingly enough |
| 09:45.09 | SirLagz | with the added benefit of OOBM |
| 09:45.12 | RayzrShrp | rtur: this is a VMS on a digital ocean host |
| 09:45.39 | rtur | RayzrShrp Ah, it's not a kvm then ? |
| 09:45.52 | RayzrShrp | rtur: no |
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| 09:46.06 | rtur | RayzrShrp then it's ok |
| 09:46.24 | RayzrShrp | rtur: so any idea how to get my swap back? |
| 09:46.47 | minnesotags | For $500-700, you could get a G6 that has instruction set for amping up the nic pairing, but you don't need that on a standard connection. |
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| 09:47.16 | SirLagz | minnesotags: are the G5 HPs noisy ? |
| 09:47.22 | minnesotags | Yes. |
| 09:47.24 | rtur | RayzrShrp the usual way would be to insert the line I wrote above, create the file and then it will be mounted on your next boot (or swapon to mount it directly) |
| 09:47.33 | SirLagz | minnesotags: damn lol |
| 09:47.38 | minnesotags | The G6 is more quiter. |
| 09:47.41 | rtur | RayzrShrp I'm not sure whether you have to do something extra in openvz though |
| 09:47.41 | RayzrShrp | rtur: do i really need a swap? |
| 09:48.04 | rtur | RayzShrp Depends on whether your RAM gets full or not |
| 09:48.06 | minnesotags | But still not in your bedroom quiet. |
| 09:48.19 | rtur | RayzrShrp if not you don't need swap |
| 09:48.29 | SirLagz | minnesotags: I have a PowerEdge 2950 already |
| 09:48.37 | SirLagz | minnesotags: I can hear that throughout my whole house haha |
| 09:48.38 | RayzrShrp | rtur: i have 724 meg available right now |
| 09:48.52 | RayzrShrp | rtur: this is just a text server with no gui |
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| 09:49.27 | minnesotags | I have an ML350 G5 in my basement, it is a lot quieter than a rack mount with DL360 with those tiny fans. |
| 09:49.44 | minnesotags | A little foam around it and it isn't a big deal. |
| 09:50.01 | rtur | RayzrShrp As I said, if your system doesn't freeze up due to lack of free RAM you don't need swap |
| 09:50.14 | minnesotags | Plus, good heat in winter! :-D |
| 09:50.29 | SirLagz | minnesotags: hehe |
| 09:51.25 | minnesotags | Tradeoff for nearly free computer is noise and power draw. |
| 09:51.55 | SirLagz | minnesotags: yeah my PowerEDGE 2950 was free :D |
| 09:51.58 | SirLagz | also got a 2850 for free as well |
| 09:53.00 | RayzrShrp | rtur: so do you know how i can get rid of this error about fuse? |
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| 09:53.29 | rtur | RayzrShrp I don't have any experience with fuse, but the logs would help ;) |
| 09:53.56 | rtur | RayzrShrp at least the error message you saw |
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| 09:56.44 | SirLagz | pity the 2850 can't run ESXi though |
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| 09:57.30 | slikts | noob q: is it possible to add kernel modules to an existing install? I found that my VPS has no tun module |
| 09:57.53 | slikts | in fact, lsmod or ls /etc/modules shows no modules at all |
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| 09:58.23 | SirLagz | slikts: depends on the configuration. Ask your hosting provider. |
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| 09:58.58 | SirLagz | slikts: if they're using OpenVZ or other containerisation tech, probably not. |
| 09:59.11 | slikts | oh snap |
| 09:59.47 | slikts | it's openvz |
| 10:00.05 | SirLagz | Talk to your VPS provider then |
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| 10:12.33 | waressearcher2 | I need to procees filenames in directory so I want to get path for each file and I use script like that: for temp_dir in $(find temp/ -depth); do echo "[${temp_dir}]"; done but if there is file or directory that contains space like: "/temp/file with space.txt" that script prints 3 lines for that file: [/temp/file] [with] |
| 10:12.38 | waressearcher2 | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:12.43 | scrubfest | I have a Intel Corperation Wifi Link 5100 and I am having some issues with the range. I cannot move more than a couple of meters from my router before my connection expires. When close to the router it works perfectly. When I was using windows on this computer I would not experience similar issues. |
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| 10:17.59 | RayzrShrp | so is 3.16 newer then 3.2 for the kernel? |
| 10:18.36 | RayzrShrp | its odd jessie on my local machine has 3.16 under uname but my vps running jessie has 3.2 |
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| 10:22.25 | kivikiller | hello |
| 10:22.28 | narbeh | h |
| 10:22.30 | narbeh | hi |
| 10:22.44 | kivikiller | i've tried to install ati drivers under kali linux |
| 10:22.50 | kivikiller | kernel 3.7 |
| 10:22.56 | kivikiller | and i have error |
| 10:22.57 | kivikiller | [Error] Kernel Module : Failed to build fglrx-14.501.1003 with DKMS [Error] Kernel Module : Removing fglrx-14.501.1003 from DKMS |
| 10:23.39 | kivikiller | what can i do now? |
| 10:23.44 | kivikiller | what is bad |
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| 10:27.44 | nkuttler | kivikiller: ask the kali linux support |
| 10:27.57 | kivikiller | but isn't kali debian? |
| 10:28.07 | nkuttler | no, then it would be called debian |
| 10:28.14 | kivikiller | ok :) |
| 10:28.17 | kivikiller | thanks |
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| 10:28.47 | emper0r | how can i do a conference streaming using debian and opensource software?.... using a camera HD with ethernet... |
| 10:31.03 | relaxed | emper0r: look at ekiga.org |
| 10:31.19 | emper0r | ok |
| 10:31.21 | emper0r | thx |
| 10:31.28 | emper0r | with ekiga debian do this on debconfs? |
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| 10:32.03 | relaxed | I'm not sure |
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| 10:33.48 | linuxd | grubII will not detect other installed os.how to fix this? |
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| 10:35.33 | relaxed | emper0r: although it's not opensource, google hangouts is great, free, and easy to use. |
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| 10:36.39 | relaxed | I've never used ekiga |
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| 10:38.31 | emper0r | thx |
| 10:38.40 | emper0r | be back again with more doubst.. have to go now |
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| 10:46.54 | scrubfest | I dont have a iwlwifi.conf in my modprobe.d directory. Does that mean it is not installed? If so, how do I install it? |
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| 10:47.31 | slikts | this is stupid, there i no /usr/share/doc/openvpn/examples/easy-rsa or /usr/share/easy-rsa in wheezy |
| 10:47.41 | slikts | I'm using openvpn from wheezy-backports |
| 10:48.11 | slikts | so I have no idea how to set up tls enabled openvpn |
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| 10:48.50 | slikts | is there a separate package to install? |
| 10:49.08 | relaxed | slikts: is Sid /usr/share/easy-rsa is provided by easy-rsa |
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| 10:49.25 | slikts | `apt-cache search easy-rsa` finds nothing |
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| 10:50.08 | slikts | does that mean easy-rsa is not in backports? |
| 10:50.15 | slikts | oh, nvm |
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| 10:50.37 | SynrGy | linuxd: got os-prober installed? if you do, 'update-grub' should call it. |
| 10:51.11 | linuxd | SynrGy: ok,thanx |
| 10:51.21 | slikts | using -t wheezy-backports also finds nothing |
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| 10:51.52 | slikts | so wtf do I do now |
| 10:52.06 | SynrGy | scout1: what do you need it for? some conf files don't exist until you create them. |
| 10:52.22 | SynrGy | scout1: sorry, tab-complete fail |
| 10:52.35 | SynrGy | scrubfest left :p |
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| 10:54.09 | relaxed | slikts: so this guide is wrong? https://wiki.debian.org/OpenVPN |
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| 10:55.14 | slikts | relaxed: it may not be wrong if not using backports, but it's wrong for me |
| 10:55.26 | slikts | since I want to use openvpn 2.3 on wheezy |
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| 10:55.41 | slikts | there is no easy-rsa backport |
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| 10:56.19 | slikts | where do I report this? |
| 10:56.29 | relaxed | grab the jessie package of easy-rsa and try it |
| 10:56.35 | relaxed | or compile it yourself |
| 10:56.47 | SynrGy | ,v easy-rsa |
| 10:56.48 | judd | Package: easy-rsa on i386 -- jessie: 2.2.2-1; sid: 2.2.2-1 |
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| 10:57.07 | SynrGy | !ssb |
| 10:57.33 | SynrGy | oh, dpkg. you're gone. you will be missed :p |
| 10:57.44 | SynrGy | too young to die. sniff |
| 10:57.45 | relaxed | is holding him hostage |
| 10:59.38 | SynrGy | ,checkbackport easy-rsa |
| 10:59.39 | judd | Backporting package easy-rsa in sid→wheezy/i386: all build-dependencies satisfied using wheezy. |
| 11:00.13 | SynrGy | slikts: you can backport it yourself. just fetch the source and build according to dpkg's 'ssb' factoid. |
| 11:00.22 | slikts | SynrGy: doing it now |
| 11:00.34 | SynrGy | great |
| 11:00.46 | slikts | but where do I report problems like this? having to backport it myself is stupid |
| 11:00.55 | slikts | the openvpn backport is not really usable without easy-rsa |
| 11:01.10 | relaxed | are backports officially supported? |
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| 11:01.50 | SynrGy | yes |
| 11:02.02 | slikts | relaxed: aren't they? |
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| 11:02.29 | slikts | the repo is under debian.org |
| 11:02.33 | relaxed | Ok, I wasn't claiming otherwise. I've been using unstable for so long I wasn't sure. |
| 11:02.48 | SynrGy | read about them at backports.debian.org as to support status |
| 11:02.59 | SynrGy | they're not always guaranteed to work, but they are supporte.d |
| 11:03.01 | SynrGy | supported.* |
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| 11:04.44 | slikts | where do you report problems with backports then??? |
| 11:05.09 | slikts | nvm, found the list |
| 11:05.40 | SynrGy | yep. FAQs are wonderful things :) |
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| 11:06.03 | slikts | can I post to the list without subscribing? |
| 11:06.25 | SynrGy | no idea. i'm subscribed |
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| 11:06.42 | SynrGy | typically, lists that don't allow you to post will bounce you a message saying so |
| 11:06.53 | SynrGy | so just try |
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| 11:08.46 | slikts | just did |
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| 11:12.47 | list | salve |
| 11:12.51 | list | list |
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| 11:13.55 | slikts | wow, I just can't get a break; trying to follow the instructions here: https://wiki.debian.org/SimpleBackportCreation |
| 11:14.10 | slikts | and getting errors about public key not found |
| 11:14.27 | narbeh | Hi, I have 4 TB of HDD and installing Debian with GPT partition table. GRUB is not being installed. http://8pic.ir/images/7matyk3vr3m7081zr5je.png |
| 11:14.32 | slikts | I did run gpg -k |
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| 11:14.44 | slikts | just @(*&#$!Q@(*&#*(!&@#!@# |
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| 11:15.58 | slikts | http://paste.debian.net/137494/ |
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| 11:18.19 | SynrGy | slikts: why do you even bother signing it? |
| 11:18.22 | relaxed | slikts: I don't think the package contains any binaries, so https://packages.debian.org/jessie/all/easy-rsa/download should work. |
| 11:18.36 | SynrGy | if it's just for personal use there's no need |
| 11:18.58 | slikts | SynrGy: I have no idea what you mean, I'm just following the instructions on that page |
| 11:19.20 | slikts | trying to do a trivial task and being punished for using "stable" |
| 11:19.51 | SynrGy | slikts: your dget apparently signs by default. i just was wondering why |
| 11:20.06 | SynrGy | it's strange because i thought dget only extracted |
| 11:20.15 | SynrGy | or is that just checking sig? hm |
| 11:20.29 | SynrGy | sorry, i thought you were at the build stage already |
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| 11:20.54 | SynrGy | anyway, see what relaxed said |
| 11:21.09 | SynrGy | there's no need to make a separate backport if the one from jessie works |
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| 11:21.41 | SynrGy | just wget it, dpkg -i, done |
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| 11:22.39 | slikts | already did, thanks |
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| 11:23.52 | slikts | at any rate, going to drop wheezy asap |
| 11:24.00 | slikts | and go to testing or fbsd |
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| 11:37.00 | slikts | https://wiki.debian.org/OpenVPN#TLS-enabled_VPN these instructions don't work, I get this error: http://paste.debian.net/137495/ |
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| 11:41.38 | superrorc | hi there! |
| 11:41.59 | superrorc | how can i check package verions in backports repo? |
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| 11:42.21 | superrorc | aptitude version package - its in normal repo |
| 11:42.34 | superrorc | and how about in backports wheezy? |
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| 11:43.38 | slikts | superrorc: http://backports.debian.org/Packages/ |
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| 11:44.12 | superrorc | thanks, any approcah with apt or aptitude? |
| 11:44.35 | slikts | apt-cache policy <package> works |
| 11:44.50 | superrorc | lets rty |
| 11:45.04 | slikts | I don't use aptitude so I don't know what `aptitude version` does |
| 11:45.13 | superrorc | ok , i see |
| 11:45.45 | superrorc | apt-cache policy - great. thanks a lot |
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| 12:24.35 | niteye | the shift lock led is normal |
| 12:24.50 | niteye | scroll lock i don't know since i never use it |
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| 12:35.20 | niteye | stoffl, i'm no linux master but i think you could pipe the path to "ls -m" |
| 12:35.24 | niteye | ls -l i mean |
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| 12:35.34 | niteye | somehow |
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| 12:48.39 | slikts | nice, reporting the backports problem to the list was met with defensive bullshit |
| 12:49.20 | bazhang | how is that connected to irc support |
| 12:50.06 | slikts | bazhang: I was directed to the list from here |
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| 13:23.06 | plat_ | niteye: that usually only happens to me when I'm working with KVM over IPMI or the like. For me the fix was installing 'numlockx' and running that without arguments, sets numlock straight. |
| 13:23.29 | guardian | wow reading debian-backports list never disappoints |
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| 13:25.09 | YamakasY | !moo |
| 13:25.09 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you could be too; join us all! type apt-get moo; aplay /usr/lib/libreoffice/share/gallery/sounds/cow.wav |
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| 13:47.16 | hassoon | is using the launchpad PPA packages made for ubuntu in debian safe? the thing is that i just want to install one piece of software called simplescreeenrecorder made for fedora and ubuntu, but not debian |
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| 13:48.10 | hassoon | yet installing it from source like mentioned in its main site failed, since there are dependencies and stuff that don't exist in debian |
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| 13:49.24 | bazhang | ppa in debian? |
| 13:50.04 | bazhang | does debian not have kazam? |
| 13:50.14 | bazhang | ;v kazam |
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| 13:50.54 | hassoon | bazhang: no,no SSR is superior to it |
| 13:51.03 | bazhang | not really |
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| 13:51.54 | hassoon | bazhang: it records fully-3D-rendered games in smooth fps's, yet i has the functionality of streaming to an rtmp service, and that's something i do want regardless of the gaming-recording thing |
| 13:52.04 | hassoon | *it has* |
| 13:52.54 | bazhang | safe and ppa with debian: not at all |
| 13:53.21 | hassoon | bazhang: sorry what do you mean |
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| 13:53.39 | Lirion | I wonder where did they put /usr/lib/libreoffice/share/gallery/sounds/cow.wav ? I see on backups I made from earlier debian releases that it did exist, but on jessie I find nothing... |
| 13:53.40 | bazhang | ppa are barely safe with the target os, ubuntu |
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| 13:53.57 | bazhang | so terrible idea, unsafe, with debian |
| 13:54.49 | hassoon | bazhang: Alright. |
| 13:55.20 | hassoon | bazhang: i tried to alien --to-debian fedora_SSR_package.rpm |
| 13:55.35 | bazhang | ach no |
| 13:55.53 | bazhang | thast even worse, if possible |
| 13:56.18 | hassoon | but it echoed simplescreenrecorder: error while loading shared libraries: libavformat.so.55: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
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| 13:56.38 | hassoon | when i executed simplescreenrecorder |
| 13:56.51 | hassoon | alright, i'll purge it and think about other better alternative solutions |
| 13:57.01 | bazhang | compile |
| 13:57.04 | hassoon | will consider this kazam thing |
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| 13:57.27 | hassoon | bazhang: yeah, i did, well okey , i'll do it again and see what's wrong |
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| 13:58.49 | Lirion | you may want to start with libavformat. it does exist, provided you installed the package. |
| 13:59.22 | hassoon | Lirion: yeah I did, but after rerunning the said installed package, it echoed the same error |
| 13:59.25 | bazhang | did debain move from ffmpeg to avconf |
| 13:59.31 | hassoon | should i reboot or something? |
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| 14:02.40 | Lirion | rebooting won't do anything there. if you really installed libavformat55(!) then it looks in the wrong place, i.e. alienating didn't work |
| 14:03.04 | hassoon | ah, i got your point. |
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| 14:03.10 | Lirion | bazhang they kind of did |
| 14:03.36 | Lirion | https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/ffmpeg second stanza :) |
| 14:03.37 | bazhang | err avconv I mean |
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| 14:03.53 | bazhang | ok thanks Lirion |
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| 14:07.43 | wu73 | Just installed 7.7. Whenever I attempt to install with a tar.gz, I'm getting an error that it's an incorrect MIME type. |
| 14:08.22 | Lirion | what command do you type to "install" example.tar.gz? |
| 14:08.34 | hassoon | crap |
| 14:08.50 | Lirion | bash: crap: command not found :) |
| 14:08.54 | hassoon | now i got a series of unmet dependencies everywhere |
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| 14:09.35 | hassoon | that tarball if anyonne cares :p http://www.maartenbaert.be/simplescreenrecorder/#download |
| 14:09.39 | hassoon | *anyone* |
| 14:09.47 | Lirion | I'm just compiling the git code |
| 14:09.52 | Lirion | so far ./configure went through |
| 14:09.54 | wu73 | I'm just using the gdebi package installer |
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| 14:10.21 | Lirion | wu73: .tar.gz is an archive, like zip, 7z, ... it's NOT a package. |
| 14:10.23 | hassoon | Lirion: okey i will do like you |
| 14:10.32 | Lirion | hassoon it won't make a major difference |
| 14:10.43 | hassoon | Lirion: ah you are getting the same errors? |
| 14:10.56 | Lirion | instead you may want to look for something like... configure: looking for GLIB_2.15 .. no |
| 14:11.18 | Lirion | then you'd look for [aptitude|whatever] search glib | grep dev and look out for a 2.15 |
| 14:11.22 | Lirion | just as an example. |
| 14:11.53 | Lirion | git code compiled fine, so should his tarball releases. (I'm on jessie, but still....) |
| 14:12.19 | hassoon | oh you're on the sid |
| 14:12.35 | Lirion | yeah, due to opengl 32bits :) you remember |
| 14:13.20 | hassoon | oh gosh, you got the latest POL running :o |
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| 14:13.53 | hassoon | do you think miving to sid is fine and worth it? for a daily debian user and learner? |
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| 14:13.57 | hassoon | *moving* |
| 14:14.22 | Lirion | well back in sarge and etch times I had etch and lenny as testing, it gave me a bit more insight |
| 14:14.32 | Lirion | but depends on how much work you want to put in |
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| 14:14.39 | Lirion | you can also learn well from stabke |
| 14:14.43 | Lirion | with less hassle, that is. |
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| 14:15.08 | superrorc | have trouble with strongswan ipsec on wheezy 7.7. use ikev2, and this is in logs Dec 20 19:09:12 orcmachine charon: 06[IKE] no IKE config found for 1ip..42ip sending NO_PROP$ |
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| 14:15.58 | hassoon | um' i see |
| 14:16.13 | Lirion | by the way: if you compile stuff yourself you might either want to look at building a debian package from it, or take a look at this here: http://www.gnu.org/software/stow/ |
| 14:16.31 | hassoon | Lirion: right on |
| 14:16.35 | Lirion | stow makes maintenance and cleaning up a bit easier, a debian package makes it a _lot_ easier |
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| 15:10.09 | critter | hi |
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| 15:30.33 | _littleb | hi people I have probably a trivial problem with debian maybe someone could help. I get this message after updating my machine: http://pastebin.com/9AQr20Zh |
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| 15:32.37 | qman__ | _littleb: http://hexample.com/2012/02/05/fixing-locale-problem-debian/ |
| 15:33.00 | _littleb | thank you |
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| 15:47.06 | Filystyn | best way to get 32 bit program work on 64 bit debian? |
| 15:47.43 | sc_ | install the 32bit libraries |
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| 15:48.04 | sc_ | https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch/HOWTO |
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| 15:49.35 | Filystyn | is it safe? |
| 15:49.42 | Filystyn | i mean what should i watch out? |
| 15:49.59 | Filystyn | for |
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| 15:51.05 | Filystyn | like when i will compile a program how i know its 64 bit or 32 bit? |
| 15:51.32 | Filystyn | hm? |
| 15:52.27 | lanodan | using file ? |
| 15:52.45 | Filystyn | ? |
| 15:52.50 | lanodan | The command |
| 15:53.08 | Filystyn | g++ program.cpp -o program |
| 15:53.12 | Filystyn | there is no command here |
| 15:53.18 | Filystyn | what arch |
| 15:53.44 | Filystyn | how will debian know somethign is fro architecture 32 bit? |
| 15:54.11 | lanodan | (I know you can speficy an arch with gcc) |
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| 15:54.39 | Filystyn | hmm ok but if i wont which will be chosen? |
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| 15:54.45 | lanodan | An example of a file output: bin/ircd: ELF 32-bit LSB executable 80386 Version 1 [FPU], dynamically linked, not stripped |
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| 15:55.31 | sc_ | i have multiarch on my linode, because it started as 32bit, now is 64bit, and I am lazy... I don't notice any problems. still stable... |
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| 15:55.45 | lanodan | If you wont I think it will try to get 64bits |
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| 16:03.32 | Filystyn | so basicly i have to do is dpkg --add-architecture i386 |
| 16:03.33 | Filystyn | ?????????? |
| 16:04.37 | Filystyn | ah i see if architecture is non default you must specifie it |
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| 16:07.30 | Filystyn | oook i think i got it done |
| 16:11.18 | Filystyn | ok i think i have the arch |
| 16:11.28 | Filystyn | how to tell linux program is 32 bit arch? |
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| 16:13.16 | shibboleth | https://ics-cert.us-cert.gov/advisories/ICSA-14-353-01 <--- who is maintaining the ntp packages? |
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| 16:14.02 | nkuttler | shibboleth: apt-cache show <package> |
| 16:14.28 | kdog | Filystyn: using the file command, as in 'file /bin/bash' |
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| 16:15.14 | shibboleth | nkuttler: can anyone raise a flag? I'm not that big on using email |
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| 16:15.57 | nkuttler | shibboleth: they are probably aware of it.. |
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| 16:16.15 | Filystyn | i dont need to specifie its 32 bit? |
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| 16:16.53 | shibboleth | nkuttler: it took them a month or so to spot some other vulns the other day, so... |
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| 16:17.18 | nkuttler | shibboleth: well if you care so much, you know how to get in touch |
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| 16:17.28 | shibboleth | true enough |
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