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| 00:00.16 | hassoon_ | d'oh |
| 00:00.21 | aypea[1] | hassoon: more or less, yes. |
| 00:00.21 | hassoon_ | what was said? |
| 00:00.22 | aypea[1] | hassoon: it also means that if you have been using the replaced package, its replacement gets installed automagically for you. |
| 00:00.59 | hassoon_ | um |
| 00:03.38 | hassoon_ | aypea[1]: thanks sir. |
| 00:03.57 | aypea[1] | no worries :) |
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| 00:29.05 | Vanfanel | hi! I don't know if this is the best place to ask about a general GNU/Linux question, but Debian is the OS I use, so here I go... |
| 00:29.33 | Vanfanel | how can I tell a program to use a certain library version in a non-standard directory? |
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| 00:30.40 | Vanfanel | I have a "standard" version of a library in /usr/lib, and a modified version under /home/pi/libs. How can I tell a program to use the /home/pi/libs version of the lib instead of the /usr/lib version of the same lib? |
| 00:31.02 | gry | probably set the LD_INCLUDE environment var or simialr |
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| 00:31.41 | dvs | LD_LIBRARY_PATH? |
| 00:31.45 | aspect | LD_LIBRARY_PATH=home/pi/libs $myprog |
| 00:32.05 | findme | http://www.cs.virginia.edu/~dww4s/articles/ld_linux.html |
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| 00:33.41 | Miesco | Failed to create secure directory (/run/user/1000/pulse): Permission denied |
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| 00:34.09 | Miesco | My sound isn't working, I get that when I try to do: amixer set Master 10%- |
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| 00:34.38 | jradd | you mean alsamixer? and it is not currently set to "MM" right |
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| 00:43.34 | lanodan | Miesco: Try to look with alsamixer |
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| 00:43.50 | lanodan | (or any mixer application) |
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| 00:46.04 | cafuego | recommends a KitchenAid for professional looking results |
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| 00:56.08 | Miesco | Well I fixed that probelm I just set ownship to me for that directory |
| 00:56.18 | Miesco | Now I just need to get sound to work |
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| 01:11.00 | Miesco | Okay sound works |
| 01:11.02 | Miesco | thanks |
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| 01:22.41 | anonymousx | hows it goin |
| 01:22.47 | dvs | eh? |
| 01:23.07 | anonymousx | so debian eh? |
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| 01:30.45 | lanodan | ⦠|
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| 01:42.01 | Balsaq | is there a debian equivalent to the package: ubuntu restricted extras? |
| 01:42.17 | Balsaq | or do both OS's use the same |
| 01:42.50 | dvs | Balsaq: We have no idea what that is |
| 01:43.02 | Epakai | debian has main, contrib (free but relies on non-free components) and non-free |
| 01:43.08 | Balsaq | ok |
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| 01:43.47 | Balsaq | its a pkg ppl commonly install immediately after installation to make the OS more complete with common drivers and codecs |
| 01:43.54 | thapin | Balsaq: you might try searching for debian multimedia for that. at least i think that might be what your looking for. |
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| 01:44.29 | Balsaq | it make the OS like linux mint - complete right off the bat |
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| 01:45.55 | Epakai | oh, it's just a metapackage, i don't know of any equivalent in debian. all the things it installs are probably in the non-free repositories of debian though |
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| 01:48.27 | thapin | balsaq: http://deb-multimedia.org/ |
| 01:48.36 | thapin | its unofficial |
| 01:49.21 | Balsaq | so thats means it poses a scurity risk |
| 01:49.28 | Balsaq | security* |
| 01:49.46 | Balsaq | anyone use that package? |
| 01:49.54 | thapin | possibly,... |
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| 01:50.22 | gry | Balsaq: best to state which hardware you have a problem with |
| 01:50.27 | thapin | i use it,.. for dvd playback. |
| 01:50.35 | Epakai | everything is a security risk. you're wanting to install binary packages you have no clue about what they do... |
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| 01:51.51 | Balsaq | i dont have any hardware issues but pretty soon im going to reinstall debian in my VM and the last time i had it i noticed i could not not go get a torrent and then burn it to a dvd while in debian while in my VM but when i did the exact same thing in ubuntu i could. |
| 01:52.27 | Balsaq | and i could not do that with ANY other distro either only ubuntu |
| 01:52.42 | Balsaq | i must have tried about a dozen of them |
| 01:53.32 | Balsaq | ubuntu knew i was in a VM and still could pound the iso to a dvd for me |
| 01:53.33 | pingfloyd | which networking mode in the vm |
| 01:53.53 | Balsaq | i have no idea what you mean pink |
| 01:54.00 | Balsaq | pingfloyd* |
| 01:54.14 | pingfloyd | you can run the vm bridged, nat, and a few other modes |
| 01:54.35 | pingfloyd | maybe that has something to do with the torrents not working |
| 01:54.47 | Balsaq | yeah maybe so but i never touched that or saw it it any of the linux distros i used |
| 01:55.05 | Balsaq | but it just works everytime in ubuntu |
| 01:55.11 | Balsaq | boom done |
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| 01:56.18 | Balsaq | but i was starting to get a feel for debian i was beginning to appreciate it |
| 01:56.59 | Balsaq | it was very fast in my vm on only 2gb of ram and i only gave it one core of my cpu |
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| 02:05.17 | Katharsis | how or where to set Access-Control-Allow-Origin if i'm using Apache + (proxy) uWSGI? |
| 02:05.21 | Katharsis | Access-Control-Allow-Origin on vhost doesn't work |
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| 02:28.43 | dm7freek | does raspian not support ipv6? |
| 02:29.05 | dvs | we don't know |
| 02:30.15 | dm7freek | *gollum* ... *gollum* |
| 02:30.21 | SirLagz | dm7freek: #raspbian can probably help |
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| 02:33.07 | cafuego | dm7freek: grep IPV6 /boot/config-$(uname -r) |
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| 02:34.17 | cafuego | dm7freek: Or, you know, google 'raspbian ipv6' and click on the first hit (FAQ) and click on "How do I enable or use IPv6?" |
| 02:35.24 | dm7freek | puts cafuego in his top 8. |
| 02:35.26 | dm7freek | ty |
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| 02:44.51 | minnesotags | thapin: my understanding is that there isn't a need to use the deb-multimedia repository because the avconv package in Debian has resolved those issues. |
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| 02:45.55 | minnesotags | I have been avconv to transcode and stream multi-media files and it works fine. Apparently that wasn't the case a year or two or three ago. |
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| 02:48.38 | minnesotags | I'm sorry, it was Balsaq that was asking. You don't need to use the deb multimedia non-official repos if you don't want to. The multimedia stuff in the Debian repositories work fine. |
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| 02:49.22 | gry | <Balsaq> i dont have any hardware issues but pretty soon im going to reinstall debian in my VM and the last time i had it i noticed i could not not go get a torrent and then burn it to a dvd while in debian while in my VM but when i did the exact same thing in ubuntu i could. |
| 02:49.44 | gry | Balsaq: best to specify what error message you got at that point and have the people here help yuo narrow it down to something useful |
| 02:49.56 | gry | Balsaq: with vm, it picks up host OS drivers, so it doesnt really matter what guest OS you use drivers-wise |
| 02:52.10 | Balsaq | gry, im saying when i try to bunn an image from an iso i cannot do it EVER unless i am in ubuntu (when in my VM i meant) |
| 02:52.18 | Balsaq | burn* |
| 02:52.27 | gry | Balsaq: i am questioning your assumption that it's a driver issue |
| 02:52.36 | Balsaq | well maybe not a driver |
| 02:52.44 | gry | Balsaq: next time you have this issue, please, come here and people will tell you what logs to check and how to troubleshoot |
| 02:52.45 | Balsaq | even mint cant do it |
| 02:53.07 | gry | stop looking at other distros; debian is self-sufficient for debugging purposes, to my knowledge |
| 02:53.17 | gry | nobody here knows what these distros do |
| 02:53.36 | gry | debian project _encourages_ forks, but it doesn't learn what they do and delegates support to them only |
| 02:53.57 | Balsaq | id like to get that one lil fork |
| 02:54.04 | gry | which one |
| 02:54.13 | Balsaq | lil piece of software that makes it happen |
| 02:54.33 | gry | ok. as I said, you need to reproduce the issue on your vm and then come here asking how to troubleshoot this. |
| 02:54.40 | Balsaq | ok |
| 02:54.48 | Balsaq | i still have my debian disk |
| 02:54.58 | Balsaq | was making me crazy |
| 02:55.06 | gry | if you can boot it right now and reproduce the issue, it would be a nice first step, I believe. |
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| 02:55.24 | Balsaq | yeah prolly not gonna install it atm |
| 02:55.48 | gry | ok. is there anything else you'd like help with? |
| 02:55.48 | Balsaq | i reinstalled my win8 host now i have to reinstall all the OS's in my VM |
| 02:55.54 | Balsaq | no |
| 02:56.06 | raSter^ | guys. have you tried installing debian on ARM tablet like nexus 7? |
| 02:56.09 | gry | Balsaq: ok. see you soon then. happy reinstalls. |
| 02:56.15 | Balsaq | ty |
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| 02:56.35 | Balsaq | my debian disk is about 2 mos old is that ok? |
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| 02:56.56 | gry | as long as you don't care of the data, or make backups, yes. |
| 02:57.16 | Balsaq | it will just update anyway to make me current |
| 02:57.20 | gry | ok. |
| 02:57.29 | Balsaq | less u just made some other changes |
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| 02:57.49 | gry | it's not the disk age then, it's the OS age (how long it wasn't upgraded), if I read you right. it's not a problem at all for a vm to be a bit out of date. |
| 02:58.09 | gry | unless it's production stuff, running ancient OSs in a vm is fine. |
| 02:59.23 | Balsaq | ok i found it my disk is debian 7.0.6.0 i386 DATED 9-13-14 |
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| 02:59.49 | cafuego | there is no 13th month |
| 02:59.59 | dvs | sep 13 |
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| 03:00.08 | Balsaq | CORRECT THERE IS ONLY 12 MOS |
| 03:00.08 | gry | dvs++ # reading date idiocy |
| 03:00.13 | cafuego | 2014-09-13 |
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| 03:01.16 | Balsaq | maybe i should put it this way dated sept. 13-2014 |
| 03:01.46 | cafuego | Nope, use the iso format. |
| 03:02.14 | Balsaq | well i do like installing to vm from the iso but its gone now so i would have to go get it again |
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| 03:02.25 | Balsaq | is the disk a problem? |
| 03:02.55 | Balsaq | prolly just more work |
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| 03:04.54 | Wraith- | VNC_bypauth: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.2.0, not stripped |
| 03:04.58 | Wraith- | what's that ?? |
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| 03:06.03 | trufax | vnc auth bypass for 386 abi? |
| 03:06.14 | Balsaq | ok i guess ill just do it now so if u wanna hang out im not the greatest on debian may have a couple question |
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| 03:08.06 | Wraith- | Balsaq, what ?? |
| 03:08.14 | Wraith- | trufax, ?? |
| 03:08.40 | Balsaq | ima install debian from a dvd to a VM now give it 2gb ram and 2 cores ok? |
| 03:08.50 | Balsaq | and 20 gb HDD |
| 03:08.55 | Balsaq | sound ok? |
| 03:08.55 | cafuego | more than enough, Balsaq |
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| 03:09.12 | Balsaq | too much...wasteful? |
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| 03:09.21 | Balsaq | 1 core 1 gb ram? |
| 03:09.31 | trufax | Wraith-: not sure what you're asking. vnc_bypauth is just a package for bypassing the usual VNC auth process: http://www.hacking-etic.cat/?p=1076&lang=en |
| 03:09.48 | trufax | not really sure on when/why it triggers such, but there you go |
| 03:09.53 | cafuego | Balsaq: cpu won't be wasted; ram maybe .. depends on the vm |
| 03:10.03 | Balsaq | vmware |
| 03:10.03 | Wraith- | trufax, i'm try run and no run |
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| 03:10.15 | Balsaq | ok ima do it then i wanna feel it fast |
| 03:10.26 | trufax | vOv |
| 03:10.29 | rebauld | 1 boubon 1 scotch 1 beer |
| 03:10.30 | trufax | gonna hop on a plane |
| 03:10.59 | rebauld | trufax: off to the riviera again hun |
| 03:11.12 | trufax | just home |
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| 03:13.00 | Hell-Razor | crap. while installing debian i nuked the windows bootloader lol... now i cant get ntfs-3g to mount any of the drives |
| 03:13.37 | SirLagz | Hell-Razor: pssht who needs windows :P |
| 03:13.44 | rebauld | nothing to do with each other |
| 03:14.14 | Hell-Razor | SirLagz, i agree but theres about 2 tb of stuff i would like back somewhere on the three drives that were windows lol |
| 03:14.15 | rebauld | installing debian as dual boot SHOULD use grub |
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| 03:14.35 | SirLagz | Hell-Razor: what's happening when you try and mount a drive with ntfs-3g ? |
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| 03:14.37 | rebauld | run fdisk -l to see what your windows partitions are |
| 03:14.40 | Hell-Razor | rebauld, i did use grub, it did detect windows, but when i try and boot it i get an error |
| 03:15.11 | rebauld | i suspect youdidn't use caution and didn't prevent debian from just using free space and used full disk |
| 03:15.27 | Hell-Razor | rebauld, yes but the disk i told it to |
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| 03:15.41 | rebauld | run fdisk -l to see what your windows partitions are |
| 03:15.44 | Hell-Razor | i intentionally left one blank and told it to eat this drive |
| 03:15.46 | Hell-Razor | i did |
| 03:15.49 | Hell-Razor | trying to mount them |
| 03:15.51 | waynr | the debian livecd screensaver just turned on |
| 03:15.58 | waynr | and i don't know the password for "user" |
| 03:16.14 | waynr | this is debian 7.7.0 |
| 03:16.30 | waynr | it's a little head-scratchy |
| 03:16.49 | SirLagz | waynr: tried just hitting enter ? |
| 03:16.58 | waynr | i tried that |
| 03:17.11 | SirLagz | waynr: tried 'user' ? 'password' ? 'root' ? 'debian' ? |
| 03:17.17 | waynr | yeah |
| 03:17.23 | waynr | all of those |
| 03:17.33 | Hell-Razor | SirLagz, its saying its not a valid ntfs partition |
| 03:17.53 | SirLagz | waynr: 'live' ? |
| 03:17.56 | pingfloyd | waynr: try pencil |
| 03:18.02 | SirLagz | pingfloyd: wargames ftw :D |
| 03:18.07 | waynr | SirLagz: 'live' works |
| 03:18.14 | pingfloyd | did you try password |
| 03:18.24 | Hell-Razor | /dev/sda2 comes back as HPFS/NTFS/exFAT but when i try to mount it NTFS signature is missing |
| 03:19.14 | SirLagz | Hell-Razor: tried any other partition/drives ? |
| 03:19.32 | Hell-Razor | SirLagz, them all |
| 03:20.25 | Hell-Razor | SirLagz, the only one that works is sda1 which is the windows boot sector lol... grub is pointing to it as well |
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| 03:24.21 | Balsaq | seems to be going well and very fast |
| 03:24.36 | Balsaq | its doing the part where it installs the extra software |
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| 03:24.59 | Hell-Razor | SirLagz, ah i think i got it... for some reason its LDM and not ntfs. for some reason i thought it would mount... guess i need the ldmtool |
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| 03:28.26 | waynr | urgh |
| 03:28.29 | waynr | partman-- |
| 03:28.40 | Hell-Razor | ? |
| 03:28.46 | waynr | it seems like i can't mount the partitions i just created |
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| 03:29.10 | waynr | /dev/sda5 already mounted or /mnt busy |
| 03:29.19 | waynr | neither of which appear to be true |
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| 03:32.19 | rebauld | do mount and df |
| 03:32.24 | rebauld | cat /etc/mtab |
| 03:32.53 | waynr | neither /dev/sda5 nor /mnt/ appear using those commands |
| 03:33.17 | rebauld | lsof it |
| 03:33.29 | waynr | nothing shows up using that either |
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| 03:34.38 | waynr | earlier i was having trouble even running mkfs.ext4 on this partition while the debian installer was running |
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| 03:34.59 | waynr | it kept saying the partition was busy |
| 03:35.18 | rebauld | start over |
| 03:35.19 | waynr | so i rebooted into the live desktop, opened a terminal, created the partition using mkfs.ext4 |
| 03:35.27 | waynr | no error message |
| 03:35.46 | Hell-Razor | ok now for the fun.. i think |
| 03:35.50 | waynr | then i ran the installer, tried to use the partition i had just created as / |
| 03:35.58 | Hell-Razor | moving my /home to a new drive and making it reiser |
| 03:36.05 | waynr | but got a message indicating that the installer could not mount the partition on / |
| 03:36.32 | waynr | i bet rebooting into the live desktop without installer running i can mount the partition |
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| 03:36.47 | Balsaq | hmm runs very fast like this |
| 03:37.02 | Balsaq | but it said "unfortunately gnome failed to load |
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| 03:37.16 | Balsaq | whatever that mean looks good too mw though |
| 03:38.02 | Balsaq | ok so i looged is as non adim too ok? |
| 03:38.10 | Balsaq | like i do on my host |
| 03:38.16 | waynr | yep, without installer running i can mount /dev/sda5 |
| 03:38.21 | waynr | i blame partman |
| 03:38.37 | waynr | i was trying to install linuxmint earlier and partman was effing that up also |
| 03:39.04 | waynr | wasn't even displaying the existing partitions during manual partition setup |
| 03:39.06 | shingouz | !enter |
| 03:39.06 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 03:39.33 | gry | Balsaq: did it load gnome or not? |
| 03:39.54 | gry | (and do you need it?) |
| 03:40.11 | Balsaq | it said unfortunately no but too me looks like ga gnome desktop |
| 03:40.17 | Balsaq | looks just like i had it before |
| 03:40.19 | shingouz | waynr: i am not too sure what is happening on your box at the moment, can you see /dev/sda5 in dmesg in the first place? |
| 03:40.37 | waynr | shingouz: i can see /dev/sda5 in blkid -c /dev/null |
| 03:40.39 | Balsaq | in fact it did the same thing the last time i installed then worked goood anyways |
| 03:41.00 | Balsaq | is there a problem with that? |
| 03:41.12 | Balsaq | i can take a picture of my new desktop |
| 03:41.18 | waynr | and like i just said i booted into the live desktop environment, mount /dev/sda5 /mnt/ and it works fine. but if i run the debian installer and try again, it won't work |
| 03:41.59 | shingouz | waynr: so are you in the debian system already or still in the installer? |
| 03:42.18 | waynr | shingouz: i am booted into the live usb desktop |
| 03:42.25 | rebauld | question should be - why - |
| 03:42.31 | gry | Balsaq: ignoring errors is not very good. I might recommend that you upgrade it now, and restart it (or log off and back on); see if the problem does away then. |
| 03:42.33 | waynr | there is an installer icon on the desktop which, if i click, will initiate the installer program |
| 03:42.54 | Balsaq | as i said it always does this |
| 03:43.06 | Balsaq | but ill update it of course |
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| 03:43.22 | Balsaq | ima show a pic of it tell me if u think its gnome i do |
| 03:43.24 | shingouz | waynr: i see. personally i would just get the netinstall and install with that, i have no idea how the live desktop thingie works |
| 03:44.26 | Balsaq | http://imgur.com/NAmf4CM My new debian desktop installed to a virtual machine |
| 03:44.37 | Balsaq | too me it did load gnome |
| 03:45.05 | Balsaq | ill restart now then update her |
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| 03:45.44 | Balsaq | said gnome 3 failed tp load most likely due to my graphics |
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| 03:45.49 | Balsaq | thats what it said |
| 03:46.13 | Balsaq | then the message disappeared when i clicked on it to read it |
| 03:46.19 | waynr | shingouz: is the netinstall iso a hybrid iso? this is necessary for my purposes since i am installing on a machine without an optical disk drive |
| 03:46.31 | Balsaq | said im in fallback mode |
| 03:46.35 | shingouz | waynr: afaik, yes |
| 03:46.46 | Hell-Razor | hey fellas... is there a simple way to add reiser4 / reiserfs to the debian kernel without having to manually recompile it? |
| 03:46.47 | shingouz | !tell Balsaq about enter |
| 03:47.11 | waynr | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:47.34 | shingouz | !tell Hell-Razor about reiser4 |
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| 03:47.52 | Balsaq | should i update it before i reboot it and hope the graphics kicks in so i do get gnome 3? |
| 03:48.01 | Hell-Razor | !tell Hell-Razor about reiserfs |
| 03:48.14 | shingouz | Hell-Razor: you can /msg dpkg |
| 03:48.41 | Hell-Razor | this way is more fun? |
| 03:48.47 | Hell-Razor | and yeah i forgot about that.. again |
| 03:48.55 | shingouz | Hell-Razor: this way it is more annoying |
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| 03:50.18 | Balsaq | damn i acant upgrade because in in as non admin |
| 03:50.45 | Hell-Razor | hmmmm |
| 03:50.57 | Hell-Razor | well until i learn more about debian guess im not manually applying patches |
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| 03:51.37 | shingouz | Hell-Razor: do you really have some specific reason why not use the "standard" ext? |
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| 03:52.18 | Hell-Razor | shingouz, because i like my filesystems to kill their wives? lol no no.... on a serious note ive had more hell with ext3/4 and btrfs than you can imagine. |
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| 03:52.54 | Balsaq | oh no it wont take the admin password i gave it and i know i gave it right it very very short |
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| 03:54.03 | shingouz | Hell-Razor: looks like you want to have even more pain if you want to patch and compile a complete custom kernel just to get reiser4... keep it simple, a lot less headaches for you and everyone else |
| 03:54.27 | Balsaq | the system only recognizes my non admin password |
| 03:54.38 | Hell-Razor | shingouz, i had ext4, reiserfs, reiser4 and xfs on one drive and the power went out. guess what was the only non corrupt partitions |
| 03:55.21 | Hell-Razor | shingouz, yeah im not going to bother until i understand debian more. im still in a loop about this squeeze, wheezy, billy bob and sid stuff. jessie is somewhere in that mess too |
| 03:56.37 | shingouz | Hell-Razor: in order to retain your sanity, keep it simple. one fs type, absolutely only one branch.. just keep it simple |
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| 03:57.44 | Balsaq | i need help if anyone is available |
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| 03:58.09 | Hell-Razor | shingouz, what fun is that lol. my sanity is already long gone |
| 03:58.22 | waynr | shingouz: i just went ahead and mounted my partition at / before running the installer, now it seems to be proceeding with system installation |
| 03:58.46 | shingouz | waynr: outstanding. |
| 03:59.30 | shingouz | Hell-Razor: depends on if you want to actually get the system installed and running or if you just want to lose your hair doing the install over and over |
| 03:59.41 | Balsaq | well guess this project will have to be crapped for now |
| 04:00.07 | shingouz | Hell-Razor: ...and for losing your hair, i could recommend a hedge trimmer... easier and faster |
| 04:00.14 | waynr | before i rebooted this time i killed the installer, opened a terminal, and ran blkid -c /dev/null it looks like the /dev/sda disk was being detected as a software raid member somehow |
| 04:00.22 | Hell-Razor | shingouz, systems up and running. i have 9 tb of free space i need to use lol |
| 04:00.22 | shingouz | Balsaq: can you sudo su? |
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| 04:00.39 | Balsaq | i sudoed upgrade |
| 04:00.48 | Balsaq | and it will not accept my admin psswd |
| 04:00.56 | shingouz | waynr: do you *need* software raid? |
| 04:00.59 | Balsaq | even though i relooged as admin |
| 04:01.02 | shingouz | Balsaq: can you sudo su |
| 04:01.09 | Balsaq | no idea what is that |
| 04:01.17 | waynr | uh i didn't tell the computer at any point to set up software raid |
| 04:01.32 | shingouz | Balsaq: a command. you said sudo works. do "sudo su" |
| 04:01.33 | waynr | just saying that's what the tool is reporting, strangely enough |
| 04:01.38 | SirLagz | waynr: was this hard drive part of a fakeraid array before ? |
| 04:01.48 | waynr | does windows do that? |
| 04:02.01 | SirLagz | waynr: one of those onboard raid controllers that is only software raid |
| 04:02.03 | Balsaq | now it wants password |
| 04:02.16 | Balsaq | i did sudo su |
| 04:02.23 | shingouz | Balsaq: slap in your password and you should be root |
| 04:02.31 | waynr | i shrank the original windows partition and am trying to install debian side-by-side with it |
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| 04:02.51 | SirLagz | waynr: did you ever attempt to setup "RAID" on your motherboard ? |
| 04:02.59 | waynr | no |
| 04:03.09 | Balsaq | says im not in the sudoer file |
| 04:03.16 | SirLagz | waynr: have you owned this hard drive since it was new ? |
| 04:03.44 | waynr | this is a laptop that i have never seen before yesterday |
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| 04:04.05 | SirLagz | waynr: ah. So any number of things could have set up that software raid then |
| 04:04.15 | waynr | yeah it has windows 7 on it |
| 04:04.22 | SirLagz | runs away |
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| 04:04.52 | Balsaq | how do i get into the suderors file |
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| 04:05.31 | shingouz | Balsaq: if you cannot get root on the box, you cannot get into that file |
| 04:05.58 | Balsaq | it had me create 2 acct s and 2 passwords which i did and wrote down |
| 04:06.15 | Balsaq | but now says i did not put it into sodoers |
| 04:06.19 | phy1729 | can you su up? |
| 04:06.25 | Balsaq | guess ill have to remove the vm |
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| 04:06.39 | Balsaq | very bizarre |
| 04:06.48 | xk05 | visudo is sometimes used to edit the sudoers file |
| 04:07.00 | Balsaq | whoever created that one must have been smokin ganja |
| 04:07.01 | SirLagz | Balsaq: you probably setup the root password and your own password |
| 04:07.03 | shingouz | wanders off to bang his head against a wall. less painful. |
| 04:07.08 | SirLagz | shingouz: haha |
| 04:07.17 | phy1729 | Balsaq: type su |
| 04:07.17 | Balsaq | well i tried both and none work so |
| 04:07.22 | Balsaq | just su? |
| 04:07.23 | SirLagz | Balsaq: run 'su' then pop in your root password |
| 04:07.26 | Balsaq | or sudo su |
| 04:07.27 | dvs | Balsaq: Setting up the two accounts don't put it in the sudo file |
| 04:07.41 | phy1729 | Balsaq: just su |
| 04:07.42 | Balsaq | well it never asked me to do anything else |
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| 04:08.19 | Balsaq | ok now i just put in su |
| 04:08.24 | Balsaq | and somethinghappened |
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| 04:08.49 | phy1729 | that's ... most descriptive and helpful |
| 04:08.54 | Balsaq | maybe this is wher i put it in sudoers need help im lost |
| 04:09.07 | phy1729 | what happened? |
| 04:09.12 | Balsaq | http://imgur.com/NAmf4CM |
| 04:09.16 | Balsaq | one sec |
| 04:09.34 | Balsaq | wont let me paste it |
| 04:09.40 | Balsaq | ill have to write it out dammit |
| 04:10.50 | Balsaq | ok when i put in su all by itself it now says this in terminal: root@debian:/home/salsa# |
| 04:11.03 | Balsaq | it want me to put a command in |
| 04:11.10 | shingouz | Balsaq: outstanding. you are root now |
| 04:11.24 | Balsaq | so do i do my update command now? |
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| 04:11.34 | phy1729 | visudo |
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| 04:12.05 | shingouz | Balsaq: if you want to update something, yes. |
| 04:12.29 | Balsaq | well hell yes it said i dont have gnome 3 yet due to graphics |
| 04:12.37 | Balsaq | i want ti all upgraded and updated |
| 04:12.48 | Balsaq | so upgrade 1st then update right? |
| 04:12.57 | shingouz | Balsaq: well, do that |
| 04:13.00 | dvs | vice versa |
| 04:13.10 | Balsaq | update then upgrade |
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| 04:13.15 | Balsaq | i was told opposite |
| 04:13.18 | Balsaq | ok? |
| 04:13.26 | dvs | they were wrong |
| 04:13.33 | Balsaq | hmmm wow |
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| 04:14.04 | shingouz | update and upgrade Balsaq. and lose the frigging enter, will ya? |
| 04:14.10 | Lady_Aleena | Balsaq, update, upgrade, then autoclean. |
| 04:14.23 | Balsaq | yes i know the autoclean |
| 04:14.43 | Balsaq | but it noe says bad commnad her eis what i type in : sudo apt get update right? |
| 04:14.55 | dvs | apt-get |
| 04:14.59 | Balsaq | ahhh ok |
| 04:15.11 | dvs | and you don't need sudo as root |
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| 04:16.08 | shingouz | Balsaq: and the command is apt-get update |
| 04:16.12 | Lady_Aleena | Balsaq, if you are on the sudoers list, at the command line with your own account, type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade && sudo apt-get autoclean" without the quotes. |
| 04:16.29 | Balsaq | well that didint work lady |
| 04:16.31 | dvs | Lady_Aleena: he's root right now |
| 04:16.38 | Balsaq | i did get it done now |
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| 04:16.44 | Lady_Aleena | dvs, okay... |
| 04:16.44 | Balsaq | autoclean did nothing though |
| 04:16.50 | Balsaq | i used to do autoremove? |
| 04:16.56 | Balsaq | is autoremove ok? |
| 04:17.02 | dvs | sure |
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| 04:17.08 | Balsaq | ok 1 sec |
| 04:17.09 | Lady_Aleena | Balsaq, get out of root. |
| 04:17.18 | Balsaq | i caqnt it wont work |
| 04:17.33 | Balsaq | well oncce im updated it will |
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| 04:18.39 | Balsaq | ok im out of admin |
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| 04:18.53 | Balsaq | and updated upgraded whew |
| 04:19.04 | shingouz | Balsaq: can |
| 04:19.09 | shingouz | Balsaq: you lay |
| 04:19.16 | shingouz | Balsaq: off the enter, please? |
| 04:19.24 | Balsaq | yes |
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| 04:19.28 | shingouz | thank you |
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| 04:19.39 | Lady_Aleena | has been reminded she hasn't updated/upgraded for a while. |
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| 04:19.51 | Balsaq | how can i tell if i am in non admin? |
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| 04:20.03 | dvs | Balsaq: the dollar sign at the prompt |
| 04:20.19 | Balsaq | oh so look in temianl again |
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| 04:20.43 | dvs | Balsaq: If you are not in a terminal then you are not admin |
| 04:20.50 | Balsaq | ok |
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| 04:20.53 | Balsaq | im good then |
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| 04:21.00 | dvs | yes |
| 04:21.02 | dvs | you |
| 04:21.02 | dvs | are |
| 04:21.05 | Balsaq | desktop looks the same though |
| 04:21.17 | Balsaq | http://imgur.com/NAmf4CM |
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| 04:23.09 | minnesotags | Lady_Aleena: There are an awful lot of security fixes recently. Maybe because of Jessie freeze? Regardless, agood thing to update/upgrade at this time. |
| 04:23.33 | Lady_Aleena | minnesotags, the upgrades are installing now. |
| 04:23.35 | Balsaq | i restarted and it did not say the gnome 3 error this time but like i said the desktop always looks the same too me |
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| 04:24.46 | Balsaq | what is the best browser for debian? |
| 04:25.01 | shingouz | Balsaq: so what do you want to have on the desktop? it works already, stop futzing with it and use it. install iceweasel |
| 04:25.17 | gry | Balsaq: cool. what was that problem again? |
| 04:25.17 | Balsaq | i like it for torrents |
| 04:25.38 | shingouz | ? |
| 04:25.44 | Balsaq | i asked what is the best browser for debian i thought u would say FF or chromium |
| 04:25.44 | minnesotags | I just went through an awful couple of days trying to install Samba4 on Wheezy using the main and backports, but there are bugs in the packages so they fail. Apparently Jessie freeze related? So lots of "apt-get"ing and "source-list"ing for me. |
| 04:25.48 | Lady_Aleena | wishes she knew what even one of these things is which she is upgrading. |
| 04:26.04 | gry | Balsaq: FOCUS! we were troubleshooting a problem you mentioned a couple hours ago. |
| 04:26.28 | shingouz | is very very tempted to do a nice little /ignore already |
| 04:26.33 | Balsaq | yes gry but after updates and upgrade the erros did not appear on restart |
| 04:26.44 | gry | Balsaq: that was a second problem, with gnome. |
| 04:26.50 | gry | Balsaq: what was the first problem? |
| 04:26.55 | shingouz | Balsaq: you got rid of the errors, ergo it works |
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| 04:28.05 | Balsaq | 1st was gnome 3 did not load due to graphics , 2nd was would not accept my admin psswd but su fixed that 3rd i simply asked if there was a browser that considered the best for debian |
| 04:28.54 | shingouz | Balsaq: which are better, apples or oranges. install iceweasel (which happens to be a rebranded firefox) and be done with it |
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| 04:29.03 | Balsaq | ok |
| 04:29.06 | Balsaq | ty |
| 04:29.36 | Balsaq | actually its already there |
| 04:30.21 | Balsaq | wow video work up front no additional software |
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| 04:31.02 | Balsaq | crystal clear vid and sound actually |
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| 04:31.16 | shingouz | Balsaq: yes. thank you. we know. |
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| 04:31.24 | minnesotags | I believe Balsaq was also asking about multimedia apps and blah, blah. You don't need to use the (non-Debian) deb-multimedia repositories, just install libav-tools from the standard repositories (main on Jessie or Sid, wheezy-backports if on wheezy). |
| 04:31.36 | el3 | Hi. I am trying to get wifi to work on pcduino3. wheezy installed. When I tyrpe ifconfig,only lo and eth0 show up.. wlan0 showed up at first, but its gone now. Help |
| 04:32.03 | shingouz | el3: ifconfig -a |
| 04:32.30 | Balsaq | i see i also already have bluetooth |
| 04:32.36 | el3 | oh nooby me. ofc now I see it |
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| 04:33.34 | el3 | shingouz: then it might be the interfaces file thats wrong, or what? |
| 04:33.58 | Balsaq | ok so now i recall the original issue ...when i burn an iso to image in debian it will not burn it to a dvd (while in my vmware) |
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| 04:34.10 | shingouz | el3: could be. if you can manually configure the thing, you could look into interfaces next for autoconfig |
| 04:35.17 | Balsaq | so ill have to go get a torrent to recreate the issue once thats fixed im all good for now |
| 04:35.33 | Balsaq | ok thanks cya once i find a torrent and get it |
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| 04:38.38 | Balsaq | awesome i like brasero and tranmission the best and it there already! |
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| 04:39.38 | shingouz | Balsaq: fyi, you do not need to inform us what is already installed and what you like |
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| 04:53.55 | _|x|_ | anyone know why, while x-terminal-emulator is 'config'ed to xterm, running xterm and running x-terminal-emulator produce different font-styles and settings |
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| 04:59.26 | _|x|_ | nevermind, solved it |
| 04:59.38 | _|x|_ | symlink thinks its a different program |
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| 05:30.04 | Debdut | I actually want to mirror the whole. |
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| 05:46.41 | Epakai | https://www.debian.org/mirror/size |
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| 05:54.41 | rjsalts | The graphs of the size differences are very out of date |
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| 05:57.10 | johnfg | hey guys |
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| 05:57.36 | johnfg | there's a package in sid: GNU Privacy Assistant (GPA) |
| 05:57.40 | johnfg | 0.9.5-2 |
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| 05:58.31 | johnfg | I'm running wheezy. I tried to install the gpa from sid with: apt-get -t unstable install gpa |
| 05:59.05 | johnfg | But it said I had already the newest version. Which it's not. It's 0.9.0-4. |
| 05:59.11 | johnfg | And it's buggy. |
| 05:59.24 | johnfg | What's the correct way to install a pkg from sid? |
| 05:59.44 | rjsalts | johnfg: you have unstable in your apt.sources and pinning rules for it, I assume? |
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| 06:00.50 | johnfg | rjsalts: yes |
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| 06:01.13 | SirLagz | johnfg: have you run apt-get update ? |
| 06:01.46 | johnfg | SirLagz: Yup |
| 06:02.37 | rjsalts | johnfg: what does apt-cache policy gpa say, and what're your pinning priorities? create a paste (paste.debian.net) |
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| 06:06.23 | johnfg | http://dpaste.com/23EFDB2 here's the first part. |
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| 06:11.51 | johnfg | I actually only had the deb-src line for sid before, and now, after the apt-get update, although it seems to be finding the gpa, it want's to update over 350 pkgs from sid! |
| 06:12.07 | johnfg | Sounds like a sure way to break the system. |
| 06:12.55 | johnfg | If I wasn't clear, I added the deb line for sid, and it wants to upgrade that big number of pkgs. |
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| 06:24.04 | engblom | When you do 'apt-get dist-upgrde', sometimes you get messages to read before the upgrade continues. What should I do to read those messages again? |
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| 06:25.40 | nislova | engblom: /var/log/dpkg ? |
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| 06:31.13 | charlie5 | mm, i cannot update my system ... libdb5-java package will not install ... nor can i fix it :/ |
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| 06:32.59 | charlie5 | i'm on debian/testing ... perhaps this is the wrong list to complain |
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| 06:33.14 | bigterd | nat is already taking place on the broadband router. i have linux2 connected to linux1, which is connected to wifirouter |
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| 06:40.17 | Debdut | What is the size of whole debian repository including contrib and nonfree? I actually want to mirror the whole. Please help me! |
| 06:41.16 | bazhang | 40plus gig per? |
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| 06:54.28 | Debdut | I actually want to download the whole mirror and distribute as DVDs in my region. I am actually converting many people to GNU/Linux. Can you tell me what is the best way to mirror it? |
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| 06:59.22 | bazhang | why not just remaster one, then clone it |
| 06:59.59 | bazhang | I need to learn how to use the dpkg bot here |
| 07:00.13 | bazhang | dpkg, remaster |
| 07:00.13 | dpkg | bazhang: i don't know |
| 07:00.18 | bazhang | augh |
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| 07:01.09 | SirLagz | !remaster |
| 07:01.13 | SirLagz | nope lol |
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| 07:05.36 | bazhang | dpkg, clone |
| 07:05.37 | dpkg | our $apt=Blootbot->new($apt) |
| 07:06.07 | bazhang | 3 down, twenty million to go |
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| 07:44.46 | ecstoian | hi everyone |
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| 08:06.44 | jelly-home | ,v pass |
| 08:06.45 | judd | Package: pass on i386 -- wheezy-backports: 1.6.3-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.6.3-2; sid: 1.6.3-2 |
| 08:06.59 | jelly-home | !tell urs about wheezy-backports |
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| 08:27.24 | surs | thanks jelly-home. I added the backport repository but I still can't install: http://pastebin.com/v08cCAYX |
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| 08:51.30 | jelly-home | surs: pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy" and "apt-cache policy pass tree libc6". Which debian release are you supposed to be running? |
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| 08:59.27 | surs | jelly-home: I'm on 7.7 |
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| 09:04.54 | surs | see http://pastebin.com/JkHksnLg and http://pastebin.com/wSuzka6q for the requested pastes |
| 09:05.07 | jelly-home | surs: the correct syntax to get something from that repo is apt-get -t wheezy-backports install stuff |
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| 09:05.28 | surs | even when it's in my sources list? |
| 09:05.48 | jelly-home | yes, read the instructions. http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ |
| 09:06.12 | jelly-home | it's not used automatically |
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| 09:07.24 | surs | thank you jelly-home. Unfortunately the error message didn't really steer me in that direction |
| 09:07.51 | jelly-home | I probably should have pointed you to the instructions first |
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| 09:09.57 | surs | no worries, thanks again jelly-home |
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| 09:18.46 | Iridos | ,versions youtube-dl |
| 09:18.47 | judd | Package: youtube-dl on i386 -- squeeze-backports: 2012.01.05-2~bpo60+1; jessie: 2014.08.05-1; sid: 2014.12.01-1 |
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| 09:40.19 | COOOOOOOL | sup |
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| 09:42.44 | gry | trying to run xpra, "Randr not supported: X server does not support required extension Randr", i have no idea what to install; it's running on a vps; installing xserver-xorg-video-dummy didn't help |
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| 09:49.30 | surs | is it normal that I don't have lsusb on a fresh install?? |
| 09:50.13 | SirLagz | surs: yes |
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| 09:52.21 | surs | ok, which repository provides it please? |
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| 09:52.43 | tomodachi | surs: usbutils - Linux USB utilities |
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| 09:57.29 | surs | thanks tomodachi |
| 09:57.33 | endrju | gry: https://www.xpra.org/trac/wiki/Xdummy and then "Xdummy with Xpra" section - have you tried that? |
| 09:57.52 | gry | I don't know how to install xdummy in debian |
| 09:57.55 | surs | My mirror doesn't have that though |
| 09:58.15 | surs | is it not recommended or why isn't it in main? |
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| 09:59.36 | gry | dummo |
| 09:59.39 | gry | dunno even |
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| 10:03.15 | COOOOOOOL | xdummy? |
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| 10:06.41 | odsjfoasdjf | sup |
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| 10:07.23 | jelly | gry: I'd probably use vncserver instead of experimenting with xpra |
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| 10:09.43 | jelly | gry: what's your actual goal? |
| 10:11.03 | gry | jelly, run a gui irc client on server. I'm not very excited with vnc, it sends bitmap picture, while I think xpra sends just xorg stuff. |
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| 10:11.43 | jelly | you'll get a bitmap anyway if your client uses freetype |
| 10:12.28 | jelly | gry: look at xvfb |
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| 10:13.11 | gry | jelly, I forgot to mention, it's a vps, it has no video card. I'll try xvfb thank you. |
| 10:13.24 | jelly | you did mention it |
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| 10:15.37 | gry | According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xvfb#Remote_control_over_SSH it still involves a vnc viewer. |
| 10:16.15 | gry | I've run one before, but I'd like to try xorg stuff without vnc as an exercise. |
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| 10:16.59 | jelly | Xvfb is just an X server, you don't _have_ to view it over vnc |
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| 10:23.07 | gwrontdx | hi |
| 10:23.14 | narbeh | Is there any tool that I can sniff on layer 7 ? which user visit a URL ? |
| 10:23.21 | gwrontdx | do i need to add non-free and contrib in my sources.list? |
| 10:23.37 | gwrontdx | is it really necessary to not follow open source idea? |
| 10:24.15 | gwrontdx | now i have only one mirror with stable main as a suffix |
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| 10:26.08 | Walex | narbeh: yes |
| 10:26.16 | narbeh | Walex: so? |
| 10:26.35 | Walex | gwrontdx: depends on what you got in terms of hw. |
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| 10:27.11 | Walex | gwrontdx: the main things that are not free sw are some drivers and firmware, some fonts; plus some random applications that come with old or weird licenses |
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| 10:31.29 | narbeh | Walex: any idea? |
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| 10:45.46 | surs | what's the correct way to obtain Oracle VM VirtualBox Extension Pack? |
| 10:46.09 | surs | virtualbox asks me to install it in order to use usb ehci support (for usb 2.0) |
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| 10:48.11 | peopleone | surs: at menu 'device' on virtualbox |
| 10:49.22 | surs | peopleone: that's where you check the ehci-box. When I do though a window pops up that tells me to install the Oracle VM VirtualBox Extension Pack |
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| 10:50.58 | peopleone | surs: oh sorry, you`re looking for extension and not guest |
| 10:51.05 | peopleone | surs: https://www.virtualbox.org/wiki/Downloads this link have the download |
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| 10:55.53 | jelly | ls -lah |
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| 10:56.29 | surs | sorry, I had to reboot |
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| 10:58.21 | suggestor | not inkscape, not pdfedit work under debian wheezy. I want to just edit pdf add some lines for report more lines are already there just want to add some sentences. |
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| 10:59.48 | suggestor | I tired flpsed, quite nice. But I cannot take over saved pdf for next week. Would need to use template pdf and fill in address again |
| 10:59.50 | endrju | suggestor: pdftk, pdfshuffler? |
| 11:00.03 | suggestor | pdftk has an gui? |
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| 11:00.34 | endrju | https://www.pdflabs.com/tools/pdftk-the-pdf-toolkit/pdftk-free-screenshot.png |
| 11:00.45 | endrju | not sure about linux version |
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| 11:01.15 | endrju | apparently it can only merge few pdfs not edit |
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| 11:01.44 | endrju | sorry about that |
| 11:02.09 | suggestor | yeah for merging I know pdfunity etc. but I want to add sentences and sentence lengths vary from week to week. |
| 11:02.10 | suggestor | np |
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| 11:04.17 | suggestor | pdfshuffler seems to display only, except rotate and such things |
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| 11:21.07 | suggestor | well I can save files from flpsed as .ps format to have the template and save every single week as pdf works quite well. |
| 11:21.20 | suggestor | Anyways, still open to suggestions for pdf editor |
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| 11:27.10 | jbanier | Hello, I've just upgraded one of our servers to Jessie and now it stop in initramfs because it can't find his disk |
| 11:27.25 | jbanier | the /dev/disk is empty (but the cdrom) |
| 11:27.38 | jbanier | pvscan and blkid resturns nothing |
| 11:27.54 | jbanier | it does boot on older kernel though |
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| 11:32.28 | Brigo | jbanier, for jessie issue ask in #debian-next channel in oftc network. For systemd issues you can try #debian-systemd channel too (in same network) |
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| 11:34.17 | jbanier | Brigo: thanks, I will |
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| 11:34.37 | Brigo | jbanier, what lvm version are you using? |
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| 11:37.26 | sylenceccc | I'm connected to a virtual server that has a process /usr/sbin/sshd running, which is shown as "perl" within top and constantly uses one cpu core |
| 11:37.32 | surs | so are the virtualbox extension packs in one of the official debian repositories? |
| 11:37.50 | sylenceccc | any idea how to find out more about it? why is it shown as 'perl'!? |
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| 11:38.45 | fraff | sylenceccc: strace -p <pid> and lsof -p <pid> |
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| 11:40.55 | sylenceccc | fraff: thanks. strace isn't available, but the lsof file list is very much different from that of the "real" sshd process |
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| 11:41.22 | sylenceccc | is there a way to find the true path of the binary? its certainly not /usr/bin/sshd |
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| 11:47.09 | peopleone | sylenceccc: which sshd ? |
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| 11:48.05 | tremon | sylenceccc: maybe /proc/$pid/cmdline can be useful. I'd also try to examine /proc/$pid/exe |
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| 11:54.01 | sylenceccc | tremon: thanks, having a look right now. |
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| 11:55.01 | sylenceccc | according to tcpdump it's constantly trying to connect to a server in south korea on port 25 sending "NICK bash124" and receiving an error. that seems to have been a irc cnc server. interesting |
| 11:56.52 | waqstar | hi all. so when running a command e.g. 7za. how can I see exactly what the status of the command is? 7za on screen is showing "crearing archive". I want to see what progress it is at. so what can I do with the PID, see which files its looking at etc? |
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| 11:57.44 | Brigo | waqstar, run strace command |
| 11:57.52 | Brigo | strace -p PID, for example |
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| 11:58.26 | sylenceccc | tremon: /proc/$pid/cmdline is /usr/sbin/sshd, the process changed that by the looks of it. /proc/$pid/exe links to /usr/bin/perl. can i get the full command line? |
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| 12:00.28 | jelly | sylenceccc: you probably can't, perl payload such as that changes its command line. If you're lucky it might still have the script file open, look at /proc/.../fd/ |
| 12:01.35 | tremon | I don't think you can, as /proc/$pid/cmdline is the full cmdline with which the process was started. It may have altered or overwritten sshd (try a diff on /usr/sbin/sshd and /proc/$(pid of real sshd)/exe) |
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| 12:05.58 | sylenceccc | tremon: both are the same, but I guess the malware survives restarts. uptime is 7 days, I'm pretty sure the malware is older than that. it has to be somewhere on disk |
| 12:06.09 | sylenceccc | jelly: in ../fd/ are only some sockets and pipes :( |
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| 12:07.50 | tremon | according to the net, the argv[] array is writable by the executable, so cmdline has as much value as comm, sadly |
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| 12:09.55 | sylenceccc | damn :/ guess I'll download a backup of the whole machine and try to run it in a vm |
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| 12:10.18 | tremon | sylenceccc: as a blunt tool, you can always md5sum /proc/$malware_pid/exe and scan your entire system for that same md5sum |
| 12:10.28 | sylenceccc | there must be a way to fetch the binary from memory, though |
| 12:10.37 | tremon | assuming the malware is an executable, not a perl script |
| 12:10.46 | waqstar | Brigo: thank you |
| 12:10.54 | sylenceccc | the malware is a script, /proc/$pid/exe is just a softlink to perl |
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| 12:11.09 | Brigo | waqstar, ??? |
| 12:11.16 | waqstar | Brigo: thanks for the strace command |
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| 12:11.30 | doev | strange, I am sure to put my server to standby, but it wakesup from power down. this happens the second time now. ideas? |
| 12:12.04 | Brigo | waqstar, ah, yes, ok, i forgot it!, you are wellcome :D |
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| 12:13.05 | waqstar | Brigo: now i need to figure out what it displays :D |
| 12:13.34 | waqstar | Brigo: im getting loads of FUTEX_WAIT_PRIVATE , never seen this before so time to google |
| 12:14.02 | Brigo | i cannot help you there, sorry :) |
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| 12:14.40 | waqstar | Brigo: helps a lot thought, thanks again. |
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| 12:31.47 | MasterOfDisaster | hey, I'm struggling with ipv6 here. My experience is limited, I'm not sure which device on the net is to blame for my problem: I've got a static ip and gateway, I disabled router advertisments. Upon pinging the gateway (or other hosts for that matter), it works for 8 pings and then goes dead. I pretty sure that NDP is to blame, but I'm not sure how. Here's (edited) info about the box's setup: http://pastebin.com/x1tBEAem |
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| 12:34.10 | petn-randall | MasterOfDisaster: If you don't get an answer here, there's also a dedicated #debian-ipv6 channel that you can join. |
| 12:34.31 | tremon | and #networking iirc |
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| 12:35.12 | tremon | only suggestion I have is to ping the link-local address, and to verify that no icmpv6 traffic is being dropped |
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| 12:36.09 | MasterOfDisaster | thanks, I'll ask there too. |
| 12:36.36 | tremon | fe80::1 is really weird though. I would stop messing with the link-local addressing and try it with the automatic ll addresses |
| 12:36.52 | MasterOfDisaster | tremon: pinging the link-local multicast address fixes the neighbor cache for a little while. |
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| 12:37.15 | MasterOfDisaster | I'm not really sure if it's a problem on my box or the router. |
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| 12:37.51 | tremon | if the router is running some vendor's firmware, my money's on the router |
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| 12:41.40 | COOOOOOOL | hi |
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| 12:44.36 | waqstar | \quit |
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| 12:44.56 | suggestor | hi |
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| 12:50.52 | withnale_ | Hello. Is it possible to use sysv and systemd startup at the same time on debian wheezy? |
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| 12:51.41 | jelly | withnale_: that does not make a lot of sense, what are you trying to achieve? |
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| 12:52.52 | withnale_ | I'm in an interrim phase. We have some wheezy servers using an established puppet build, and we wish to continue using some of the same logic there since it's tested. However, there are some services for a small subset of hosts that we would prefer to be managing via systemd |
| 12:53.06 | withnale_ | (whilst also having the core services managed by sysv) |
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| 12:56.53 | tremon | what does "managed by sysv" mean? If you mean to use the rc script instead of the systemd service, just remove the service definition (that may imply using puppet to monitor and remove a service file from /lib/systemd, as service files are not conffiles) |
| 12:57.22 | petn-randall | withnale_: No, they exclude each other. There can only be one "PID1". Why do you want to use systemd on wheezy? It's a tech preview, it's far from usable. |
| 12:57.44 | jelly | there's a backport of 215 that may be usable |
| 12:57.47 | jelly | ,v systemd |
| 12:57.48 | judd | Package: systemd on i386 -- wheezy-security: 44-11+deb7u4; wheezy: 44-11+deb7u4; wheezy-backports: 204-14~bpo70+1; sid: 215-8; jessie: 215-8; experimental: 218-2 |
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| 12:57.55 | jelly | 204, then |
| 12:58.21 | withnale_ | Ah. Ok. I'll bin it then :D |
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| 13:40.34 | jelly | !qotd0 |
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| 13:53.12 | leni1 | hello all. I would like some pointers on how to image my current Debian installation together with programs I've installed |
| 13:53.19 | leni1 | So that I can boot from it |
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| 13:54.06 | abrotman | there's a program called bootcd, not sure how well it works anymore |
| 13:54.28 | leni1 | abrotman: thanks. Will look into it |
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| 13:59.49 | leni1 | abrotman: doesn't seem to be what I'm looking for |
| 14:00.31 | abrotman | leni1: why not? |
| 14:01.19 | mtn | leni1: googling "make live cd from installed linux" founds lots of links |
| 14:01.36 | abrotman | judd: info bootcd |
| 14:01.37 | judd | Package bootcd (utils, extra) in wheezy/i386: run your system from cd without need for disks. Version: 3.28; Size: 82.9k; Installed: 336k |
| 14:01.50 | abrotman | Seems like making an image with your programs to me ... |
| 14:02.01 | leni1 | mtn: ah thanks |
| 14:02.10 | mtn | leni1: welcome |
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| 14:02.32 | leni1 | abrotman: it seemed more a data recovery thing |
| 14:03.46 | leni1 | abrotman: sorry. My search brought up results for Ultimate BootCD |
| 14:04.08 | abrotman | leni1: packages.debian.org/bootcd |
| 14:04.20 | leni1 | After running apt-cache search, I can see that they are both very separate. My apologies for getting them mixed up |
| 14:04.33 | leni1 | thank you again |
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| 14:39.08 | zophy | is the NKR deprecated ? |
| 14:39.32 | sydney | If i upgrade from wheezy to jessie, how likely is it for my system to break at the moment?? |
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| 14:42.57 | wheezyPUP | wonders if debian-6 requires a formatted partition for install... or, will it just find space if available ? |
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| 14:43.49 | jhuebner | sydney: nobody will be able to tell you, there are too many variables |
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| 14:44.42 | jhuebner | and if i say it's unlikely and you do it and it breaks, whose fault is it then? |
| 14:45.13 | GNU\colossus | jhuebner, yours, of course, what kind of funny question is that? :D |
| 14:45.24 | jhuebner | ;) |
| 14:45.49 | ChrisH | sydney: I can only tell, I never broke a system with upgradeing from stable to testing. But you never know... depends on your backup quality :) |
| 14:45.51 | sydney | :P |
| 14:46.12 | sydney | a seperate /home partition, and a seperate backup drive :) |
| 14:46.45 | sydney | Hum. |
| 14:46.48 | wheezyPUP | isnt testing always to be considered "unstable" ? |
| 14:47.07 | sydney | But jessie is not testing. |
| 14:47.09 | tremon | no, testing is not unstable. We have unstable for that :) |
| 14:47.18 | wheezyPUP | tremon lol |
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| 14:48.39 | tremon | testing has been frozen for more than a month. It is quite stable right now (in the Debian sense, so little package churn) |
| 14:48.52 | jelly | wheezyPUP: it has periods of unstable and unstabler |
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| 14:49.08 | wheezyPUP | ah that sort of clears it up |
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| 14:49.21 | sydney | Does wheezy backports become jessie backports? |
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| 14:49.52 | zophy | is the DPRK deprecated ? |
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| 14:50.15 | tremon | wheezy-backports will remain wheezy-backports. There is very little (if anything) in wheezy-backports that is not already in jessie |
| 14:50.17 | blackflow | Hello. I'm managing a Debian server for a client, so I'm not quite at home with it (I'm a FreeBSD user). I need to change the provider (repository) of a package. I configured the apt repos, defined pinning, but I'm not sure how to actually perform the repo change. |
| 14:50.35 | kchehab | hi , i am running debian ,when link flip (down/up ) eth0 never go up again unless i do ifdown etho then ifup etho ---- no inet addr: please can you advise by fix |
| 14:50.56 | Eduard_Munteanu | blackflow, just apt-get update then upgrade |
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| 14:51.54 | tremon | blackflow: apt pinning is not really for the uninitiated, it's underdocumented and undersupported. But you can force a specific version by using apt-get install $pkg=$version syntax |
| 14:51.56 | shingouz | kchehab: check if you have "auto" for that nic in interfaces. that should cure the problem |
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| 14:52.08 | kchehab | i have |
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| 14:53.01 | tremon | blackflow: and you can use apt-cache policy $pkg to check which versions are availalable in which repo's |
| 14:53.07 | sydney | Do i have to change that line ( i meant to say ) ;) |
| 14:53.14 | kchehab | shingouz auto lo eth1 eth0 |
| 14:53.24 | sydney | wheezy backports > jessie backports? |
| 14:53.40 | kchehab | shingouz please can you clartify more |
| 14:54.06 | shingouz | kchehab: let me ask dpkg shoot you a bit info on that |
| 14:54.16 | shingouz | !tell kchehab about interfaces |
| 14:54.17 | kchehab | shingouz iface lo inet loopback allow-hotplug eth0 iface eth0 inet static ok thanks |
| 14:54.34 | tremon | sydney: if you intend to upgrade from wheezy to jessie, it is best to disable the -backports repo, then re-enable it (and change it to jessie-backports) after completing the dist-upgrade |
| 14:54.55 | blackflow | Eduard_Munteanu: well, that doesn't have the desired effect. Not sure what I did wrong, here are the two relevant configs (sources list and pinning): https://dpaste.de/o4fW |
| 14:55.21 | jhuebner | after upgrading from wheezy to jessie one maybe wouldn't need the backports anymore.. |
| 14:55.23 | kchehab | shingouz i guess it a bug (Linux debian 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.46-1+deb7u1 x86_64 GNU/Linu ) |
| 14:55.36 | shingouz | kchehab: if you are running eth0 as static, you need to set up the addresses etc manually in interfaces. if you want it to pull an address off the dhcp, you need to tell it about it. could be a bug too for that matter |
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| 14:55.52 | Eduard_Munteanu | blackflow, what does apt-cache policy libpq say? |
| 14:56.18 | shingouz | kchehab: check what dpkg told you, the zless-thingie has a quite good example sitting on it |
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| 14:58.11 | blackflow | Eduard_Munteanu: well first, there's a typo, I corrected the package names to libpq5 (5 was missing). second, the policy: https://dpaste.de/eJtC/raw |
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| 14:59.19 | blackflow | Eduard_Munteanu: and according to PostgreSQL wiki, my apt sources is configured correctly, at least I think: https://wiki.postgresql.org/wiki/Apt/FAQ#I_want_libpq5_for_version_X.2C_but_there_is_only_version_Y_in_the_repository |
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| 15:00.27 | Eduard_Munteanu | blackflow, I think a=9.3 isn't right |
| 15:01.02 | blackflow | Eduard_Munteanu: well I don't know, I thought a= is the repo name (According to pinning docs and examples), and 9.3 is the repo name |
| 15:01.58 | tremon | blackflow: check the output of apt-cache policy, it will list the valid tags for each configured repo |
| 15:02.11 | Eduard_Munteanu | blackflow, wheezy-pgdg is the repo name, I think |
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| 15:03.56 | blackflow | tremon: how do I read that? https://dpaste.de/eJtC/raw |
| 15:04.33 | blackflow | Eduard_Munteanu: well there's "main" and "9.3", what are those called? |
| 15:04.35 | tremon | blackflow: apt-cache policy (without any package name) |
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| 15:05.28 | kchehab | shingouz checking all config |
| 15:05.33 | Eduard_Munteanu | blackflow, those are "components" |
| 15:05.47 | tremon | I think your pin should be on c=9.3, but it's not matching the package name either it seems |
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| 15:08.10 | blackflow | Eduard_Munteanu: tremon: okay, so I needed the c=, and it seems I now have it configured right, according to apt-cache policy, but apt-get upgrade doesn't downgrade the packages: https://dpaste.de/fwGu/raw |
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| 15:09.07 | blackflow | ah I need to apt-get install libpq5, not just apt-get upgrade |
| 15:09.43 | Eduard_Munteanu | blackflow, you need a pin priority of at least 1000 to get automatic downgrade, IIRC |
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| 15:11.15 | blackflow | Eduard_Munteanu: well, I fixed it with apt-get install libpq5 libpq-dev (yeah that was a typo too, these names are inconsistent more than php function args... whoever is packaging this, THANKS!) |
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| 15:11.34 | blackflow | Eduard_Munteanu: tremon: thanks guyes, problem solved. |
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| 15:13.47 | COOOOOOOL | hi |
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| 15:13.49 | blackflow | btw, whoever cares, if you use default postfix-postgresql from Wheezy, and are also using PostgreSQL from apt.postgresql.org, upgrading libpq to 9.4 (which is now default even if server and client are 9.3) will break Postfix integration with PostgreSQL. |
| 15:14.19 | blackflow | that's why this downgrade of libpq is required to keep postfix working with postgresql. |
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| 15:22.32 | kchehab | shingouz i check all config even i do the very simple config and still the same when interface flip ,inet never go up again |
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| 15:25.35 | blocky | is anyone aware of mtp support being broken? apparently its broken in ubuntu, but im having trouble on debian |
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| 15:27.13 | blocky | error is unable to open mtp device when i plug in my nexus 4 |
| 15:27.20 | tremon | kchehab: that seems odd. I thought the kernel doesn't deconfigure interfaces when they go down. What network card is this? |
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| 15:39.02 | Zharf | so now that some retard decided to make startx take over the tty that it runs on, how do I switch it back to tty7? |
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| 15:42.31 | kchehab | tremon Ethernet controller: Broadcom Corporation NetXtreme II BCM5709 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 20) |
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| 15:44.36 | tremon | hmm, that's not an uncommon controller either. But I have never seen the behaviour you're describing. Does the kernel detect the media change correctly? And what is the output of ip ad after you've removed the cable? |
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| 15:49.23 | jordanm | Zharf: http://unix.stackexchange.com/a/143735/13796 |
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| 15:49.46 | Zharf | jordanm, yes I found it, I don't care, how do I change it back |
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| 15:50.03 | Zharf | poettering and his systemd fellows can go fuck themselves, I want my X in tty7 |
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| 15:52.09 | jordanm | Zharf: using a DM would likely be the simple route, but there is probably another work-around |
| 15:52.09 | petn-randall | Zharf: ranting about stuff won't get you very far in this channel, just FYI. |
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| 15:52.33 | petn-randall | Zharf: Try to keep it constructive and family-friendly in here. |
| 15:52.40 | Zharf | petn-randall, ha :p |
| 15:52.59 | Zharf | jordanm, I would be interested in that other way :) |
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| 15:53.27 | jordanm | Zharf: perhaps this: http://blog.falconindy.com/articles/back-to-basics-with-x-and-systemd.html |
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| 15:55.12 | kchehab | tremon any idea ? |
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| 16:01.12 | tremon | kchehab not really, unless some other daemons to manage networking (e.g. networkmanager) are getting in the way |
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| 16:07.38 | Zharf | jordanm, apparently "startx -- vt7" works, thanks for your time |
| 16:07.47 | jordanm | Zharf: np |
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| 16:28.20 | Joe-e19 | Here you can get for free SoftMaker Office package (for Linux, Windows and android): Nur noch heute und Morgen!!!!: http://www.freeoffice.com/de/download?id=1 bei jeden Download wird gespendet only today and tomorrow! |
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| 16:38.00 | jelly | Joe-e19: are you in any way affiliated with SoftMaker Software GmbH? Freenode does not allow advertising. |
| 16:38.24 | Joe-e19 | OH, sorry guys :-( |
| 16:39.12 | Joe-e19 | I only want to help the poor kids with this project from SoftMaker they donate for poor kids :-) |
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| 16:44.03 | cisco987 | 47 mins to the holidays |
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| 16:45.29 | mtn | cisco987: everyday is a holiday |
| 16:45.33 | abrotman | Joe-e19: Do you need help with Debian? If not, please /part |
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| 16:46.27 | cisco987 | mtn, where/ |
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| 16:52.29 | magnetophon | I somehow lost my wifi... "ifup wlan0" gives me "Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0". Also booting into other OS's doesn't show it. Any ideas? |
| 16:52.46 | magnetophon | There's nothing that seems related in the bios... |
| 16:53.01 | everamzah | on/off switch? |
| 16:53.05 | jhuebner | some laptops have physical switches for wireless |
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| 16:53.27 | jhuebner | or there is some function key combination |
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| 16:53.55 | magnetophon | everamzah, jhuebner: thanks, tried that too... :/ |
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| 16:54.23 | cisco987 | Try to turn it off and on (quote) |
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| 16:57.55 | magnetophon | cisco987: you mean the whole PC? tried that. Also the HW wifi switch, which isn't a real HW switch in my case, as it controlls both 3G and wifi, but withouty the aproriate SW it can only switch 3G (acer Aspire One) |
| 16:58.39 | cisco987 | what does it say lspci -vnn ? |
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| 17:00.04 | magnetophon | cisco987: seems OK to me, also ends with Kernel driver in use: ath9k |
| 17:00.25 | magnetophon | cisco987: if you want I can give you the full output... |
| 17:00.42 | cisco987 | dmesg says if the device is sleeping? |
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| 17:03.10 | magnetophon | cisco987: "dmesg | grep wlan" and "dmesg | grep sleep" both come up empty... |
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| 17:03.34 | cisco987 | grep -i ? |
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| 17:04.47 | magnetophon | cisco987: that gives me a usage "howto" |
| 17:05.05 | everamzah | what is this rfkill package? would it be useful? |
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| 17:05.32 | magnetophon | everamzah: ah, didn't try that one yet, thanks! |
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| 17:07.17 | oo_miguel | Can anyone recommend some some "alternatives" to iTunes that will allow me to buy and download movies? |
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| 17:07.42 | jthomas | amazon, google |
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| 17:08.06 | jthomas | download, tho, perhaps not |
| 17:08.09 | Jckf | Anyone in here familiar with the Redmine package for Wheezy? I set it up a long time ago, and somewhere along the line it stopped working properly. I'm using Nginx and Passenger, and all my Redmine instances now use the same database. THe first instance that is accessed after a restart of Nginx is the one that'll show on all the domains, even though X_DEBIAN_SITEID is defined differently for them all. |
| 17:08.34 | magnetophon | everamzah: "rfkill list wlan" gives me "0: phy0: Wireless LANSoft blocked: no Hard blocked: yes" Not sure what to do next (already tried "rfkill unblock wlan") |
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| 17:12.09 | magnetophon | everamzah cisco987: OK, turns out the "hardware switch" does the stop hardblocking, but does not turn on the led. Fixed now! |
| 17:12.17 | magnetophon | Thanks! |
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| 17:29.33 | jorick | I have an SD card with a debian install on it for my RPI. I set it up a long time ago and forgot the user password. How can I edit the /etc/shadow file to insert a new password? |
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| 17:31.19 | hassoon | gosh |
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| 17:32.10 | hassoon | how to fix all unmet dependencies ruining the system's stability with one shot? |
| 17:32.20 | tremon | jorick: copy the password field (2 iirc) from your main machine |
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| 17:33.33 | jorick | tremon, my main machine is Arch, will that make a diffrence? Also, is there any salt? |
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| 17:34.12 | jelly | hassoon: it depends. "apt-get -f install" is a good start. |
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| 17:34.46 | tremon | jorick: the salt is encoded in the password field. I don't think there's a difference between linux distro's on the encoding of the field |
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| 17:35.12 | jelly | !tell hassoon -about basic apt troubleshooting |
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| 17:35.37 | tremon | hassoon: if you really want to ruin it, aptitude purge ~Bdepends might be a start |
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| 17:36.16 | tremon | or maybe even simpler purge ~b |
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| 17:36.57 | ryanneufeld | I'm mirroring a couple repos using debmirror --nocleanup and while the old packages aren't being removed, they aren't available to the clients accessing the mirror |
| 17:36.57 | hassoon | sorry what you mean by ruin it |
| 17:37.08 | hassoon | i want to fix it wholly in fact :p |
| 17:37.11 | ryanneufeld | is there a simple way for me to keep the list updated? |
| 17:37.16 | jelly | tremon: at least give him a dry-run command first |
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| 17:38.23 | jorick | tremon, it worked! thanks :D |
| 17:38.33 | tremon | hassoon: I think I read your question as "fix all unmet dependencies [and at same time] ruin the system" :) |
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| 17:41.24 | tremon | hassoon: as for fixing it, jelly's suggestion is good. But don't expect a magic command that can fix everything for you, it really depends on how you broke it in the first place |
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| 17:41.52 | hassoon_ | tremon: ah no no sir, in fact i was googling about ways to modprobe my gpu's driver , because basically my laptop's monitor has stopped working permanently, and last time that happened i just purged the xserver-xorg-video-ati and reinstalled it again, then i got the monitor working again(strange heh? thought it is a very hardware issue), so roday it happened again and i did purg and reinstall the said package , but nothing worked |
| 17:42.39 | hassoon_ | tremon: but hey, the last wird thing i have done is installing this .deb piece of software https://www.dropbox.com/sh/grwkm9n175uxwaw/cfGXf326IS |
| 17:42.48 | hassoon_ | called simplescreenrecorder |
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| 17:43.28 | rm-rf | hi |
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| 17:44.45 | throwthecheese | I have a problem |
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| 17:45.32 | rm-rf | hi |
| 17:45.35 | rm-rf | then tell us your problem |
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| 17:45.48 | throwthecheese | I'm trying to package pypanel and made a Makefile and moved the source components into an src folder, but dh_make still nags me about a top-level Makefile. Why? |
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| 17:46.17 | rm-rf | irc://irc.debian.org/debian-mentors |
| 17:46.21 | rm-rf | they are not on freenode |
| 17:46.28 | rm-rf | click this link, your irc client should do it |
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| 17:47.02 | tremon | hassoon_: well the obvious first step would be to remove that package again, but I doubt that will solve anything in itself. can you paste your most recent Xorg log? |
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| 17:48.14 | throwthecheese | Please help me as I got kicked |
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| 17:48.20 | hassoon_ | tremon: I did intall forcefully packages called lib6_2.17-97_amd6 locales_2.1.7-97_all.deb and the simplescreenrecorder_amd64.deb |
| 17:48.27 | hassoon_ | from that archive |
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| 17:48.42 | hassoon_ | tremon: alright, sec |
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| 17:49.38 | tremon | ah... well installing a foreign libc might have unintended consequences. |
| 17:49.53 | hassoon_ | gosh i wish didn't do that |
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| 17:50.27 | hassoon_ | not sure if that has something to do with the malfunctioning of my very laptop, or that happened in coincidence with the said actions of mine |
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| 17:53.10 | tremon | there's no way to know that. But you can force a downgrade of libc by running aptitude install libc6/stable -- you can also try it with apt-get, but aptitude has a better resolver in these cases |
| 17:53.42 | rm-rf | Assigned this to the directory: ug=srwx,o-rwx |
| 17:53.44 | rm-rf | But newly created files in that directory don't inherit user/group/permissions of it. |
| 17:53.45 | rm-rf | Is there a setuid-equivalent for chmod? |
| 17:54.13 | hassoon_ | gosh what a mess |
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| 17:54.17 | tremon | this will however remove simplescreenrecorder again |
| 17:54.38 | hassoon_ | tremon: ah i did purge those 3 alien packages |
| 17:54.43 | hassoon_ | already |
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| 17:54.55 | rm-rf | alien package, lol |
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| 17:55.29 | jthomas | :p |
| 17:55.47 | hassoon_ | rm-rf: what's funny? |
| 17:56.03 | hassoon_ | rm-rf: it's an alien package from someone who built it by himself |
| 17:56.05 | twinkie | looke like freenode finaly workinf |
| 17:56.05 | tremon | hassoon_: that's impressive. Most systems crash completely when you remove libc6 :| |
| 17:56.17 | hassoon_ | tremon: ah |
| 17:56.24 | MrSavage | twinkie: freenode was always working |
| 17:56.33 | twinkie | workibg |
| 17:57.07 | rm-rf | hassoon_: The word 'alien' sounds funny for people with a different mother-tongue than English. |
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| 17:57.35 | jthomas | i think the joke is about an alien's package. |
| 17:57.43 | hassoon_ | rm-rf: i guess you thought of the UFO's heh :) |
| 17:57.44 | tremon | rm-rf: as for permissions, that's expected. They are determined by the user's umask, not the directory permissions. not sure what the effect of setuid on a directory is, but the setgid bit should have worked |
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| 17:58.03 | rm-rf | yes |
| 17:58.08 | twinkie | coudnt get on last night all day yesterdey kept dissconnecting |
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| 17:58.22 | hassoon_ | twinkie: might be a problem in your connection |
| 17:58.26 | hassoon_ | or your modem |
| 17:58.26 | tremon | rm-rf: unless perhaps if you were root |
| 17:58.30 | hassoon_ | or your ISP |
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| 17:58.43 | rm-rf | tremon: setgid would let new files inherit the directory group, right? but not the permissions of it |
| 17:58.49 | hassoon_ | or a bird messing with the phone lines? |
| 17:58.56 | tremon | rm-rf: yes |
| 17:59.35 | rm-rf | ah |
| 17:59.55 | twinkie | my browser worked fine it failed in 2 clients |
| 18:00.14 | jhutchins | twinkie: Are you using ssl? |
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| 18:03.04 | twinkie | my androud may be |
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| 18:20.48 | justsomedood | This may be an incredibly stupid question, but I am having a weird issue with the /etc/network/interfaces config file. The netmask I specify for one interface isn't being used. My config is this: |
| 18:20.52 | justsomedood | auto eth0 |
| 18:20.52 | justsomedood | iface eth0 inet static |
| 18:20.52 | justsomedood | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:20.52 | justsomedood | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:21.53 | justsomedood | Sorry, my config is this: http://paste.debian.net/137753/ |
| 18:22.11 | justsomedood | But the netmakse from "ifconfig" and "ip addr" is 255.0.0.0 |
| 18:22.12 | jhuebner | network != netmask |
| 18:22.16 | justsomedood | *netmask |
| 18:22.36 | justsomedood | zomg, it's just a typo.... |
| 18:22.52 | justsomedood | wow, thanks |
| 18:23.05 | jhuebner | you're welcome |
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| 18:25.16 | jhutchins | justsomedood: It's happened to all of us. |
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| 18:36.20 | Guest13847 | hello. What is the best ionice option to slowdown a tar process.... ionice -n2 -c7 or ionice -n3 |
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| 18:49.58 | Martiini | asl !!! |
| 18:50.17 | ryanneufeld | I'm mirroring a couple repos using debmirror --nocleanup and while the old packages aren't being removed, they aren't available to the clients accessing the mirror |
| 18:50.21 | ryanneufeld | is there a simple way for me to keep the list updated? |
| 18:50.48 | jelly-home | Martiini: don't even |
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| 19:02.19 | onorua | Guys, I've got a problem with 3.19-rc01 kernel. My wireles simply doesn't work, what could be the case? |
| 19:02.38 | bleb | I want to install debian using an 8GB USB stick. Is the DVD image a good choice for this? |
| 19:02.52 | greycat | bleb: /msg dpkg usb install |
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| 19:04.12 | MTecknology | Is it possible to run 32bit binaries on a 64bit system? I seem to remember something about ia32-libs or something, not sure if that can help or not.. |
| 19:04.33 | jelly-home | !tell MTecknology about multiarch |
| 19:04.34 | greycat | Yes. |
| 19:04.41 | MTecknology | thanks :) |
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| 19:07.56 | Martiini | IRC! |
| 19:08.03 | MTecknology | ah, I guess that's not going to work for me in this case... |
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| 19:09.11 | greycat | because? |
| 19:09.21 | wakeupnow4321 | MTecknology: sudo dpkg --add-architecture i386 && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install libstdc++6:i386 libgcc1:i386 zlib1g:i386 libncurses5:i386 |
| 19:09.38 | wakeupnow4321 | MTecknology: also, you can install ia32-libs |
| 19:10.14 | greycat | ia32-libs became a meta-package in wheezy |
| 19:10.46 | joobus | onorua: your new kernel config possibly doesn't have the driver module selected. |
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| 19:11.39 | niteye | my sound is inexplicably mute, someone told me about a good program that fixed it but i forgot what it was |
| 19:11.42 | onorua | joobus, no, I've compared new one and old one and they are almost the same, the only thing I've discovered - WEXT is missing |
| 19:12.01 | MTecknology | holy crap... that did work! :D |
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| 19:12.29 | MTecknology | I'm excited because these are 32bit binaries randomly distributed from another source. :D |
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| 19:13.06 | greycat | ia32-libs (or the newer equivalent) is how we've always run 32-bit Dwarf Fortress on 64-bit linux. |
| 19:14.01 | MTecknology | apparently I did all of that just to find out I have a lack of drivers. :P |
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| 19:17.53 | hassoon | given the results of dmesg|grep -i radeon, doesn't that denote to a malfunctioning gpu? http://paste.debian.net/137758 |
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| 19:18.09 | hassoon | if so i wonde rif |
| 19:18.13 | hassoon | d'oh |
| 19:18.30 | hassoon | if so i wonder if ireinstalling the ati driver can fix that |
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| 19:33.18 | niteye | i got no sound, yesterday i did, any clues ? |
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| 19:35.49 | ompaul | niteye: what changed? |
| 19:36.07 | niteye | nothing, except that nothing is coming out of my speakers |
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| 19:36.43 | ompaul | how do they get power? |
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| 19:36.50 | niteye | i had the same thing happen on my previous computer, and i could fix it by installing a package which allowed me to unmute something that doesn't show up on any of the other volume controls, no idea how it got muted though or why, and i don't remember the name of the package now |
| 19:36.59 | niteye | with an amp but it's just regular line out i use to connect it |
| 19:37.18 | ompaul | when you touch the tip do you cause buzzing? |
| 19:37.26 | niteye | nop nothing |
| 19:37.29 | niteye | and i had sound yesterday |
| 19:37.40 | ompaul | the tip of the line out wire |
| 19:37.42 | niteye | but i think debian muted something again |
| 19:37.49 | ompaul | then you updated something |
| 19:37.54 | ompaul | or did something |
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| 19:38.00 | ompaul | it doesn't happen in isolation |
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| 19:38.15 | ompaul | I know software is bad, but it's not that bad. |
| 19:38.21 | sigterm | lol |
| 19:38.30 | niteye | seems so, anyways, i heard of a godliek tool to mute and unmute audio things but i can't remember the name, last time i asked everyone on here agreed here it was an awesome tool but if only i could remember what it was |
| 19:38.57 | sigterm | is pulse running? |
| 19:39.06 | ompaul | then what stoppped pulse |
| 19:39.08 | ompaul | an update |
| 19:39.12 | ompaul | are you running stable? |
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| 19:39.38 | niteye | ye sstable, just tried restarting pulse, but it didn't change anythin |
| 19:39.52 | ompaul | run alsamixer |
| 19:39.59 | ompaul | and see if PCM is muted |
| 19:40.00 | niteye | everything is maxed out there, |
| 19:40.15 | ompaul | plug the speakers in :) |
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| 19:40.45 | niteye | ofcourse it is plugged in, but i know for sure there is a tool that allows to unmute things that don't show in alsamixer, buecause that's how i did it last time it happened |
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| 19:41.22 | ompaul | niteye: you are running stable, if you didn't just install something else or upgrade something then PCM isn't going to stop |
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| 19:41.40 | niteye | well it did |
| 19:41.46 | ompaul | niteye: hardware failure? |
| 19:41.53 | niteye | doubt it, works in windows still |
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| 19:42.05 | ompaul | figures I've said enough. |
| 19:42.29 | niteye | anyone knows which package it is that allows controlling audio outputs ? (besides alsamixer) |
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| 19:42.44 | trem0r | pulseaudio? |
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| 19:43.43 | niteye | its weird because my previous computer done the exact some thing, once |
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| 19:44.19 | niteye | audio just stopped working from one day to the next without any change to system, and when i asked about it here they suggested i check out some tool , and there indeed something was muted, inexplicably |
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| 19:44.56 | petn-randall | niteye: pulseaudio? If you have that installed, that is ... |
| 19:45.20 | niteye | that just gives errors if i try to run it, says daemon is already running |
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| 19:46.35 | petn-randall | niteye: pavucontrol can change the volume. |
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| 19:46.49 | niteye | YES! that was it! |
| 19:47.34 | petn-randall | niteye: You can use 'apt-cache search' to search for such things. aptitude also has a quite good search function. |
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| 19:47.53 | niteye | yes but i had no clue what to search as i didn't at all remember the name of it |
| 19:49.20 | niteye | and there we go |
| 19:49.25 | niteye | i unmuted it in pavucontrol and now it works |
| 19:49.30 | niteye | weird huh, anyone can explain that ? |
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| 20:08.26 | `Kevin | lol > https://twitter.com/ianatha/status/547087759039401984 |
| 20:08.31 | `Kevin | lies |
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| 20:19.57 | Geraldus | Hi friends! |
| 20:20.43 | Vroomfondle | hello there |
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| 20:22.36 | Geraldus | I have testing repo in my `sources.list`, there is also pinning configured to lower testing repo priority. But when I try to install something from testing, e.g. `nemo file manager`, apt wants to upgrade a lot of packages to version from testing. Can I install only nemo without migrating entire system to testing? |
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| 20:25.15 | Vroomfondle | Geraldus: hmm, I have not tried to do that myself, but I imagine nemo would have a lot of dependencies. The trouble is, even if you got nemo installed without the dependencies, it might not work because it's expecting newer versions of lots of libraries |
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| 20:32.54 | jhutchins | !frankendebian |
| 20:32.55 | dpkg | When you get random packages from random repositories, mix multiple releases of Debian, or mix Debian and derived distributions, you have a mess. There's no way anyone can support this "distribution of Frankenstein" and #debian certainly doesn't want to even try. See if you can convince ##linux to help. |
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| 20:33.40 | jhutchins | Geraldus: Mixing testing and stable has been discouraged since ~lenny. It's better to use backports - /msg dpkg bdo |
| 20:34.08 | jhutchins | Geraldus: testing packages at this point have lots of new dependencies. |
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| 20:36.49 | Geraldus | Vroomfondle: thanks |
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| 20:37.00 | user_ | all |
| 20:37.15 | Geraldus | jhutchins: I've also backports repo, let me see is there nemo |
| 20:37.21 | user_ | Does someone change debian cd? |
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| 20:37.47 | petn-randall | user_: I don't understand. |
| 20:37.59 | petn-randall | user_: Can you rephrase your question? |
| 20:38.02 | Geraldus | And what about testing branch in general? I have thought about try to use it instead of stable. |
| 20:38.04 | user_ | I'm trying to change debian install cdc |
| 20:38.05 | user_ | cd |
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| 20:38.21 | petn-randall | user_: And you hit which problem ... ? |
| 20:38.36 | user_ | I'm trying to add mate |
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| 20:39.02 | user_ | I have add the debs to cd with help apt-ftparchive |
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| 20:39.19 | petn-randall | Geraldus: Sure, we're always happy about more guinea pigs^W^W testers for our next release. :) |
| 20:39.21 | user_ | I have changed Release and Packages files |
| 20:39.29 | user_ | but still can't install mate |
| 20:39.37 | petn-randall | user_: Slow down. What are you trying to achieve? |
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| 20:39.47 | Vroomfondle | Geraldus: "testing" generally works okay for a home desktop |
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| 20:40.14 | petn-randall | user_: What release are you running? |
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| 20:40.28 | Geraldus | petn-randall: :D |
| 20:40.29 | user_ | wheezy |
| 20:40.48 | petn-randall | !tell dpkg install mate |
| 20:40.48 | user_ | I use pressed file |
| 20:40.50 | Geraldus | Vroomfondle: I heard the same thing. |
| 20:41.02 | petn-randall | user_: What is a pressed file? |
| 20:41.22 | user_ | petn-randall, are u sure do you know about customisation of debian? |
| 20:41.23 | petn-randall | user_: Either way, dpkg sent you instructions on how to install mate on a default wheezy. |
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| 20:41.50 | petn-randall | !tell user_ about install mate |
| 20:41.51 | user_ | petn-randall, i know how do it, i don't know how iild cd with mate by default |
| 20:42.09 | user_ | build cd |
| 20:42.37 | petn-randall | user_: Oh, that wasn't clear to me. So you want to customize a CD with wheezy-backports enabled? |
| 20:42.42 | user_ | petn-randall, i use a mirror from mate-desktop.org |
| 20:42.54 | jhutchins | !mate |
| 20:42.55 | dpkg | The MATE Desktop Environment is a fork of GNOME 2, available since Debian 8.0 "Jessie" (and also in wheezy-backports). To install, ask me about <install mate>. https://wiki.debian.org/Mate http://mate-desktop.org/ #mate on chat.freenode.net. |
| 20:43.02 | user_ | petn-randall, so, again |
| 20:43.11 | user_ | I build a debian cd with mate by default |
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| 20:43.29 | jhutchins | user_: Are you trying to build a live CD or an installer? |
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| 20:43.45 | user_ | petn-randall, may be you know debian with mate? |
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| 20:43.55 | user_ | Installer |
| 20:43.58 | frankS2 | Anyone know if pound(1) supports some sort of server-status? |
| 20:44.06 | frankS2 | I'm unable to locate it in the docs |
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| 20:44.20 | user_ | jhutchins, |
| 20:44.31 | `Kevin | frankS2: i do not think so |
| 20:45.01 | petn-randall | user_: we don't support 3rd party mirrors, though. Why do you want to spindle your own images? You can always add wheezy-backports after the installation. |
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| 20:45.43 | jhutchins | user_: You can do a minimal CLI only install and add mate afterwards. |
| 20:45.54 | user_ | petn-randall, now speech are not about a mirror |
| 20:46.06 | jhutchins | user_: Please see the links above for how to do this in debian. |
| 20:46.11 | user_ | i'm about customisation cd |
| 20:46.19 | frankS2 | `Kevin: yeah, doesnt look like it, weird |
| 20:46.23 | jhutchins | user_: /msg dpkg install mate |
| 20:46.39 | jhutchins | user_: Perhaps some time spent learnng debian first would be a good idea. |
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| 20:46.56 | user_ | jhutchins, i already said it don;t need it |
| 20:47.14 | jhutchins | user_: You will need to learn the structure of the CD, how to change defaults in the installation script, and how to remaster an iso image. |
| 20:47.24 | user_ | may be free node has a channel about debian customisation? |
| 20:47.28 | jhutchins | user_: This is not an IRC one-line task. |
| 20:47.32 | user_ | or a channel about debian installer |
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| 20:47.43 | ecem | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHoaeAWJy2s&feature=youtu.be |
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| 20:47.45 | jhutchins | user_: That's not the kind of thing irc is for. |
| 20:47.55 | user_ | jhutchins, i already changed cd as well |
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| 20:48.06 | user_ | already automate installation |
| 20:48.22 | user_ | now i need an advice for let mate works |
| 20:48.35 | jhutchins | user_: No, you need more than that. |
| 20:48.39 | jhutchins | user_: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Modify/CustomKernel and http://wiki.debian.org/DebianCustomCD |
| 20:48.52 | jhutchins | user_: Oops, ignore the kernel one for now. |
| 20:48.59 | user_ | jhutchins, i already learn this links |
| 20:49.05 | user_ | =)) |
| 20:49.10 | jhutchins | user_: Then you need nothing more. |
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| 20:49.14 | user_ | Are u sure I can't google? |
| 20:49.35 | jhutchins | user_: Google all you want. The more you learn the better! |
| 20:49.48 | jhutchins | !ru |
| 20:49.48 | dpkg | ÐÑо английÑкоговоÑÑÑий канал, пожалÑйÑÑа, говоÑиÑе по-английÑки или поÑеÑиÑе #debian-russian (irc.freenode.net) (Russian speakers please go to #debian-russian) |
| 20:49.52 | `Kevin | user_: you have not adequately even remotely what you are doing and where you have ran into problems |
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| 20:50.27 | `Kevin | user_: if you can describe where you are running into a problem then you could be pointed in a direction |
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| 20:51.18 | jhutchins | `Kevin: He's been pretty clear, he wants to build a custom install CD that installs mate as the desktop. |
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| 20:51.52 | user_ | `Kevin, I have preseed.cfg file into initrd. Clear? I have apt-install. I have added mirror of mate into my source.list. I use apt-install. And it doesn't work |
| 20:52.03 | jthomas | I'd love a custom Debian OS install CD!! Is this now easy to do? In the past, Ubuntu was easy but it's not Debian |
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| 20:54.12 | user_ | How I can say to preseed.cfg install a package from mirror? |
| 20:54.45 | Walex | user_: from a *specific* mirror? |
| 20:55.16 | user_ | Walex, from any mirror |
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| 20:55.32 | Walex | user_: what's the difficul part then? |
| 20:55.39 | user_ | ok, how I can change rc.local into cd? |
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| 20:56.31 | Walex | user_: what? |
| 20:56.58 | user_ | Walex, how I can put custom rc.local into my installation cd? |
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| 20:57.16 | jhutchins | jthomas: http://wiki.debian.org/DebianCustomCD |
| 20:57.41 | user_ | ok, i grab source of debian installer |
| 20:57.45 | user_ | Thank you anyway |
| 20:57.56 | Walex | user_: the installation CD runs the debian installer, and I am not sure it executes 'rc.local' at all. |
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| 20:58.11 | jhutchins | user_: How do you know that the preseed file is correct if it doesn't work? |
| 20:58.26 | user_ | Walex, rc.local executes after installation when pc turn on |
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| 20:58.45 | user_ | jhutchins, other actions works good |
| 20:58.57 | user_ | only installation doesn't work |
| 20:59.16 | Walex | user_: on a normal system there is a rule for the init system that does that, it does not happen magically. |
| 20:59.36 | jhutchins | user_: Since we know the installer is capable of installing packages from the network, we know that if the preseed is configured correctly it will do so, |
| 20:59.37 | florian_ | Where can I download debian slink? I know it's a very old debian. |
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| 21:00.03 | Walex | user_: I don't know whether the init system of the debian installation CD does have a rule to run 'rc.local'. |
| 21:00.13 | greycat | florian_: http://www.debian.org/distrib/archive I think |
| 21:00.15 | Walex | florian_: there is a special site with an archive of old version. |
| 21:00.59 | user_ | I tried to install vim |
| 21:01.05 | user_ | Via apt-install |
| 21:01.07 | Walex | user_: the way to debug Debian installer issues is to get to a Debian installer shell and look at logs... |
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| 21:01.24 | user_ | Walex, it's clear |
| 21:01.24 | Walex | user_: the logs will give you a precise idea of why installation did not work. |
| 21:01.44 | user_ | I don't understand how I can install a package into /target |
| 21:01.49 | florian_ | greycat: I look that and I say you. Thanx |
| 21:01.56 | Walex | user_: so you can report here something more precise than "installation doesn't work" |
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| 21:02.35 | jhutchins | Walex: The installer uses isolinux, so it doesn't do sysvinit stuff. |
| 21:03.14 | jhutchins | user_: apt-install isn't a thing. |
| 21:03.42 | florian_ | greycat: there are no link to download the iso file. |
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| 21:05.11 | Walex | user_: the typical way is to use a "command" line and rujn 'apt-get' after installation is nearly finished |
| 21:05.20 | Walex | user_: an example at the very end of https://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/example-preseed.txt |
| 21:05.41 | user_ | Walex, stop talking obviously things |
| 21:05.58 | user_ | And again, I can use google myself |
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| 21:06.00 | greycat | He's answering your question. |
| 21:06.12 | user_ | greycat, he is captain obviously |
| 21:06.28 | greycat | Then you need to explain how his answer is not right for you. |
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| 21:08.46 | jhutchins | I think user_ could stand to get some sleep and come back to this tomorrow. |
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| 21:09.26 | susl | Question: If I burn an image-file to a CD or DVD it is bootable by default. But why are USB-flash drives not bootable? |
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| 21:11.13 | user_ | susl, because you need master boot record for boot |
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| 21:12.12 | susl | user_: Also on UEFI-systems? |
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| 21:12.54 | user_ | susl, if you just burn files on cd you don't load system |
| 21:13.03 | greycat | susl: a USB mass-storage device (thumb drive) is basically a hard drive. Your firmware doesn't look for a .ISO image on a hard drive. |
| 21:13.32 | Ilhami | which glib package do I need for irssi?+ |
| 21:13.37 | Ilhami | glib-networking? |
| 21:13.49 | susl | greycat: But what is a CD/DVD? |
| 21:14.03 | greycat | If you mean "to compile irssi" then I'd use apt-get build-dep irssi |
| 21:14.08 | jhutchins | susl: USB flash drives with the proper image on them are bootable. |
| 21:14.11 | greycat | susl: something different |
| 21:14.23 | Ilhami | greycat, I got the sources and reading the installation manual |
| 21:14.30 | Ilhami | it says I need glib-2.6 |
| 21:14.36 | Ilhami | or greater. |
| 21:14.52 | jhutchins | ,v glibc |
| 21:14.53 | judd | No package named 'glibc' was found in i386. |
| 21:14.59 | jhutchins | D'Oh! |
| 21:15.00 | greycat | glib in this context is not glibc |
| 21:15.12 | greycat | ,versions libglib2.0-0 |
| 21:15.13 | judd | Package: libglib2.0-0 on i386 -- squeeze: 2.24.2-1; wheezy: 2.33.12+really2.32.4-5; jessie: 2.42.1-1; sid: 2.42.1-1; experimental: 2.43.2-1 |
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| 21:15.26 | greycat | Just use apt-get build-dep irssi, really. |
| 21:16.01 | Ilhami | E: You must put some 'source' URIs in your sources.list |
| 21:16.12 | Ilhami | seems like I am missing some sources even though I have the three shown here |
| 21:16.15 | Ilhami | !sources |
| 21:16.15 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for Debian 7 "Wheezy" has three lines: "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy main" "deb http://security.debian.org/ wheezy/updates main" "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy-updates main". Be sure to run «aptitude update» after editing sources.list. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <wheezy/updates> <wheezy-updates> <mirrors> <apt-spy> and "man sources.list". |
| 21:16.32 | greycat | /msg dpkg deb-src |
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| 21:18.41 | susl | jhutchins: Which changes have to be made if I want to boot from a usb-flash dirves |
| 21:18.56 | greycat | susl: /msg dpkg usb install |
| 21:19.25 | Ilhami | greycat, I have wheezy and I did add contrib non-free |
| 21:19.37 | greycat | Ilhami: in deb-src? and did apt-get update after? |
| 21:19.37 | jhutchins | susl: Are you trying to build your own bootable image, or just run the live installer? |
| 21:19.49 | Ilhami | greycat, 2 sec |
| 21:19.57 | Shadow_7 | susl: install grub on the usb stick? it's just a bootable storage device. Baring a few fstab tricks to prolong the write life of the media |
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| 21:20.55 | Ilhami | greycat, when you say deb-src do you mean in the sources.list? |
| 21:21.07 | jhutchins | I had a PXEboot system, but with a new ISP I couldn't do PXE any more (easily), so I installed to a USB drive. The system was unusably slow. |
| 21:21.17 | greycat | I mean a line in sources.list which begins with the literal string "deb-src". |
| 21:21.49 | susl | jhutchins: It's only about understanding. The background why it's possible to boot a CD/DVD by default and why it's not possibly with USB flash drives by default. What are the real differences? |
| 21:21.51 | Shadow_7 | jhutchins: usb sticks ARE slow. like a class 2 or slower in SDHC terms. Use a card reader and an SDHC class 6 or better card IMO. |
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| 21:22.18 | Shadow_7 | they are slow to WRITE anyway. read speeds are almost tollerable |
| 21:22.35 | Ilhami | greycat, let me fix that. |
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| 21:22.43 | user_ | ha |
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| 21:22.52 | user_ | looks like I skipped network config |
| 21:23.04 | user_ | And can't connect to the mirror |
| 21:23.05 | greycat | susl: your firmware knows that a CD/DVD drive is different and has an ISO 9660 on it. USB drives don't. Or at least, your firmware thinks they don't. |
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| 21:24.09 | jeezy | http://i.imgur.com/7CyiPUP.jpg cables in! :D |
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| 21:24.44 | kraftb | Hi ! |
| 21:24.49 | susl | greycat: Ah, ok. So I have to change my flash drive or my computer so that I also can boot flash drives? |
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| 21:25.30 | kraftb | I have a question about packages: Are they allowed to create databases (mysql) and eventually even virtual hosts (apache, lighthttpd) if the depend on those packages? |
| 21:25.51 | greycat | susl: you have to write a *different image* to the USB drive. Follow the steps on the URL from /msg dpkg usb install |
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| 21:25.58 | Shadow_7 | susl: depends on the hardware. if not using UEFI you have to disable secure boot and enable legacy / CSM. otherwise spam keys at boot to get to the selectable boot media. |
| 21:26.44 | petn-randall | kraftb: Yes, but there are frameworks in Debian to do that. |
| 21:26.47 | Shadow_7 | or use windows to reboot to uefi to do that the hard way. Depending on if your uefi is responsive to the keyboard. Or saves any settings that don't favor windows. |
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| 21:27.03 | kraftb | petn-randall: which? :) |
| 21:27.26 | kraftb | or to get to the final result of my question: Why isn't there an "apt-get install wikipedia-offline" :) |
| 21:27.30 | petn-randall | kraftb: Check out the source packages of mediawiki and owncloud, I'm sure they're using something like that. |
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| 21:29.02 | Shadow_7 | kraftb: there is an apt-get install debian-handbook |
| 21:29.31 | Ilhami | greycat, added it now |
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| 21:30.45 | Ilhami | installing the dependencies now. |
| 21:32.03 | greycat | build-dep will give you all the things necessary to build the Debian package, which may be more than you actually need to build it from upstream source, because of optional configurations and so on |
| 21:32.16 | greycat | Better to have extra stuff than to be missing stuff. |
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| 21:32.57 | jhutchins | susl: My go-to site for bootable USB info is http://pendrivelinux.com - iirc they had some discussion of the details of a bootable image. |
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| 21:33.30 | Ilhami | greycat, heh well I guess o. |
| 21:33.31 | Ilhami | so* |
| 21:33.46 | `Kevin | <rant> thawte sucks ughh. |
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| 21:34.09 | greycat | Debian packages tend to be "with knobs on my bells and whistles" |
| 21:34.12 | Ilhami | greycat, I am making it now. that should be enough? |
| 21:34.18 | greycat | You shall see. |
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| 21:35.03 | Shadow_7 | jhutchins: I just do a debootstrap install on the usb medium. And some admin steps. Set the root password, apt-get a boot-able kernel, and install grub on the usb. Works for me. |
| 21:35.21 | findme | greycat, sup |
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| 21:36.38 | Ilhami | greycat, wasn't enough. |
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| 21:36.45 | Shadow_7 | jhutchins: the admin steps while in the chroot of said debootstrap install |
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| 21:39.13 | jhutchins | Shadow_7: I found the system unusably slow - did a regular install, not a debootstrap iirc. |
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| 21:39.34 | jhutchins | Shadow_7: Using things like squashfs to tune the image really improves performance. |
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| 21:39.40 | Ilhami | ok works now :D |
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| 21:41.10 | kraftb | Ok. I think I know what I need ... |
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| 21:41.12 | Ilhami | can I delete the irssi-0 folder safely now? |
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| 21:42.22 | Ilhami | oh well that would be stupid. there are config files in it. heh |
| 21:42.30 | Ilhami | answering myself. |
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| 21:44.33 | ilhami | I am on irssi now :) |
| 21:45.03 | ilhami | cool. |
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| 21:48.14 | ColonelPanik | My I please have a torrent link for debian testing. |
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| 21:49.00 | greycat | There appear to be torrents only for stable, not testing. |
| 21:49.10 | tremon | ColonelPanik: do you need to debug the installer or install debian testing? |
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| 21:49.24 | ColonelPanik | Install. |
| 21:50.21 | tremon | in that case, the best way to do that is to install debian stable, then perform a dist-upgrade. The installer for testing is still being developed, and may not work |
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| 21:51.46 | tremon | you can use the netinstall disc for a minimal install. After dist-upgrade, you can run tasksel to redo the installer's package selection |
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| 21:52.09 | ColonelPanik | Thank you all. |
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| 22:04.46 | kraftb | If you create an application (for debian) which should later on get packaged, and the application itself just consists of a bunch of scripts. How would you organise them. Are there any examples which don't come to my mind right now? |
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| 22:05.54 | greycat | Any script that is intended to be called directly should be in /usr/bin. If it's only called internally, then probably in something like /usr/share/yourpackage/ but you'd better double-check me on that one. |
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| 22:15.05 | ilhami | is there a good package for LAMP ? :d |
| 22:15.21 | jhutchins | !lamp |
| 22:15.21 | dpkg | LAMP: Linux, Apache, MySQL, {PHP,Perl,Python} server. Ask me about <install debian><install apache><install mysql><install php>. (Hmm... doesn't that make it a DAMP stack?), or "aptitude install libapache2-mod-php5 mysql-server php5-mysql". http://wiki.debian.org/LaMp, or http://geek-and-poke.com/geekandpoke/2013/6/15/the-geekpoke-old-chestnut-of-the-week |
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| 22:16.50 | ilhami | I will just use the aptitude, ok? |
| 22:18.18 | ilhami | thanks jhutchins |
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| 22:23.44 | ilhami | !skype |
| 22:23.44 | dpkg | Skype is a proprietary cross-platform <VoIP> service and application owned by Microsoft. Debian cannot distribute the application due to its license. See http://wiki.debian.org/skype and ask me about <skype amd64> for community-contributed information. Consider using free and secure alternatives: <ekiga>, <empathy>, <jitsi>, <linphone>. |
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| 22:24.03 | ilhami | What the heck? Skype doesnt work on Debian?? |
| 22:24.16 | ilhami | of course it does. :D |
| 22:24.31 | ilhami | I will just get it from their site. |
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| 22:27.54 | JohnnyL | what and where can I find 'dnl'? |
| 22:28.13 | greycat | dnl is a comment indicator in the m4 macro language |
| 22:28.24 | greycat | you'll see it in autoconf *.in files and so on |
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| 22:28.49 | JohnnyL | greycat: ./configure.ac: line 1: dnl: command not found |
| 22:29.01 | JohnnyL | via confiure.ac |
| 22:29.28 | greycat | Are you supposed to run configure.ac directly? I don't think so. |
| 22:29.45 | greycat | I think there's usually a different script you run (autogen.sh maybe?( |
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| 22:30.07 | rebauld | yup autogen.sh to make configure from configure.ac |
| 22:30.52 | JohnnyL | there appears to be a boostrap.sh |
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| 22:31.48 | rebauld | bootstrap.sh gets all the dependencies |
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| 22:32.03 | rebauld | what is this source? |
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| 22:32.31 | JohnnyL | rebauld: bootstrap.sh did it!thanks ! |
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| 22:32.34 | JohnnyL | guvcview |
| 22:32.51 | JohnnyL | trying to get a windows handheld digital microscope to work under debian. |
| 22:33.09 | user_ | Works! |
| 22:33.17 | user_ | Next part |
| 22:33.48 | user_ | I used debian like desktop many years ago, which one way there are for run DE by default? |
| 22:34.00 | user_ | gdm3? |
| 22:34.03 | ilhami | I did sudo apt-get -f install ... :P installing a lot of dependencies now. :/ |
| 22:34.22 | ilhami | just to get shitty skype. :( |
| 22:34.33 | JohnnyL | guvcview: error while loading shared libraries: libgviewv4l2core-1.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 22:34.41 | JohnnyL | ln -s maybe? |
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| 22:35.33 | mtn | user_: gdm is the gnome desktop manager and will be installed if you install gnome. the desktop manager can start any desktop you want to run. |
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| 22:36.44 | user_ | mtn, i have mate |
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| 22:37.53 | mtn | user_: so, is your question answered? |
| 22:38.31 | user_ | mtn, yes |
| 22:38.38 | mtn | user_: ok, good |
| 22:38.43 | user_ | Guys, i don't understand, you get pay for andwers? |
| 22:38.54 | ColonelPanik | lol |
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| 22:39.19 | JohnnyL | awesome the camera works. |
| 22:39.27 | JohnnyL | i had to run ldconfig. |
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| 22:40.28 | ilhami | !ftp |
| 22:40.28 | dpkg | File Transfer Protocol (FTP) is a method of moving files between systems using TCP/IP. There are three sane kinds of FTP: anonymous, encrypted and unprivileged (non-Unix users). Unencrypted FTP using Unix users will get your box pwn3d as fast as running windows on your firewall machine. Ask me about <ftp must die>, <scp>, <sftp>. See also <ftpd>. |
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| 22:41.08 | ilhami | !ftp must die |
| 22:41.09 | dpkg | FTP MUST DIE! http://mywiki.wooledge.org/FtpMustDie . If you really just want to provide anonymous download of files, use HTTP: http://daniel.haxx.se/docs/ftp-vs-http.html |
| 22:41.27 | ilhami | !ftpd |
| 22:41.27 | dpkg | [ftpd] A daemon that speaks <FTP>. The following choices are available on Debian: ftpd, the *BSD daemon (good, robust piece of software without anything shiny on it); <wu-ftpd> (a high-performance, multi-homing and anon-only capable daemon that has caused traffic on bugtraq); <proftpd>, which is somewhere in between; and <pure-ftpd>, which features optionally chrooted home directories, virtual domains, ratios, etc. See also <vsftpd>. |
| 22:41.38 | ColonelPanik | ldconfig |
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| 22:41.52 | ColonelPanik | !ldconfig |
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| 22:42.22 | ilhami | I know you should not use FTP but what else can you do if the shared host only supports FTP? |
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| 22:43.15 | rebauld_ | why not use ftp? it is fastest protocol besides torrent |
| 22:43.24 | ilhami | and the most insecure. :) |
| 22:43.27 | greycat | It is slower than HTTP for single-file downloads. |
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| 22:45.45 | ilhami | how good is iceweasel compared to Chrome and FF? |
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| 22:46.38 | mtn | ilhami: iceweasel is firefox with a different name and artwork |
| 22:46.44 | ilhami | oh. |
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| 22:47.52 | ilhami | debian is really the best linux dist ever made? |
| 22:47.53 | mdoge | I have some apt-get issues concerning linux-image... http://pastebin.com/AiefrrNX |
| 22:47.57 | mdoge | ilhami: yes |
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| 22:48.01 | mdoge | does anyone have an idea? |
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| 22:48.14 | mdoge | or clue where i can start fixing this error? |
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| 22:48.22 | ilhami | debug debug debug. :D |
| 22:48.31 | mdoge | no idea where to start tbh |
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| 22:49.00 | ilhami | from top to bottom :D |
| 22:49.16 | mdoge | ;< |
| 22:49.19 | mdoge | is this the help channel? |
| 22:50.43 | ilhami | mdoge: it is. |
| 22:50.49 | mdoge | ill just go to #ubuntu and pretend im using ubuntu |
| 22:50.53 | mdoge | maybe they wont fall for it |
| 22:51.04 | mdoge | uh, maybe they'll fall for it* |
| 22:51.16 | ilhami | just be patient dude. |
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| 22:51.22 | ilhami | someone will probably answer soon. |
| 22:51.40 | mdoge | i have no faith in the debian community |
| 22:51.42 | ilhami | always be careful when installing kernels. |
| 22:51.44 | mdoge | hides |
| 22:51.52 | ilhami | kernel updates |
| 22:51.54 | ilhami | * |
| 22:52.14 | mdoge | i'm taking over from a collegue, he did some unknown stuff and I'm left with a broken system bsaically |
| 22:52.31 | ilhami | hah |
| 22:52.35 | mdoge | :D |
| 22:52.41 | ilhami | tell the noob to stay away from the system then. |
| 22:52.49 | mdoge | brings out the cluebat |
| 22:52.58 | ilhami | that was the last time he got to sit in that chair. |
| 22:53.10 | mdoge | well he did get it up and running |
| 22:53.11 | ilhami | fire him. |
| 22:53.12 | mdoge | that's something |
| 22:53.18 | mdoge | technically he's my boss |
| 22:53.21 | ilhami | hahahaha |
| 22:53.26 | ilhami | fire your boss.. |
| 22:53.27 | mdoge | but ill fire him anyway yeah :) |
| 22:54.03 | ilhami | so funny I just heard a story from another channel where the boss told his employee to call google and get the company in top 10 when searching for it |
| 22:54.06 | ilhami | lol |
| 22:54.20 | mdoge | i can appreciate the business spirit |
| 22:54.24 | mdoge | ;') |
| 22:54.36 | ilhami | haha call google he shouted. |
| 22:54.52 | ilhami | if it worked like that I think they would get a lot of phone calls. |
| 22:54.52 | mdoge | god :') |
| 22:54.59 | mdoge | one would assume so yes |
| 22:55.35 | mtn | mdoge: so which version of debian? |
| 22:55.46 | mdoge | Linux apepi 2.6.32-32-pve #1 SMP Thu Aug 21 08:50:19 CEST 2014 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 22:55.55 | mdoge | wait |
| 22:55.58 | mdoge | err, debian wheezy |
| 22:56.01 | ilhami | thats not the version of debian :D |
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| 22:56.06 | mdoge | :> |
| 22:56.10 | mtn | mdoge: lsb_release -a in a terminal |
| 22:56.21 | mdoge | Description: Debian GNU/Linux 7.7 (wheezy) |
| 22:56.46 | ak102 | -KERNEL: Linux crunchbang 3.16.0-4-amd64 -DISTRO: CrunchBang Linux waldorf -CPU: AMD Phenom(tm) 8450 Triple-Core Processor -UPTIME: up 1 day, 6 hours, 16 minutes |
| 22:56.50 | mtn | ,v kernels |
| 22:56.51 | judd | No package named 'kernels' was found in i386. |
| 22:56.55 | mtn | ,v kernel |
| 22:56.56 | judd | No package named 'kernel' was found in i386. |
| 22:57.16 | ilhami | ak102: ? |
| 22:58.56 | mtn | mdoge: I can't remember, but I don't think that is a wheezy kernel. please paste your sources.list to http://paste.debian.net |
| 22:59.22 | mdoge | mtn: interesting. |
| 23:00.02 | mdoge | mtn: is there a way to paste from the cli? |
| 23:00.12 | mdoge | was it dpaste? |
| 23:00.19 | mdoge | nvm.. cant install anything |
| 23:01.12 | Lady_Aleena | Is there any way to know what IceWeasel is doing right now? It is sitting here going between 89% and 94% of my CPU, but nothing is happening after several minutes. |
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| 23:02.14 | ilhami | Bremsnachten: what are you doing here? |
| 23:02.42 | Bremsnachten | ? |
| 23:02.48 | ilhami | I mean who called you? |
| 23:03.01 | Bremsnachten | Did you need anything? I haven't said anything in here. |
| 23:03.11 | ilhami | Bremsnachten: still mad at ya |
| 23:03.19 | Lady_Aleena | twiddles her thumbs waiting for IceWeasel to either close or open. |
| 23:03.21 | Bremsnachten | This isn't awfully on-topic here. |
| 23:03.41 | rebauld_ | i back Bremsnachten and know ilhami is at fault |
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| 23:05.02 | Lady_Aleena | I can't tell if IceWeasel is still closing or trying to reopen. |
| 23:05.04 | mdoge | mtn: http://paste.debian.net/137783/ |
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| 23:05.22 | mdoge | mtn: I scp'd it through 3 hosts, only to find out that it only contained 6 lines |
| 23:06.13 | mtn | mdoge: it looks fine, except should say wheezy, not stable in the first lines. have you done: aptitude update && aptitude dist-upgrade? |
| 23:06.36 | mdoge | I have about 10 minutes ago, yes |
| 23:06.40 | mdoge | or 20 |
| 23:07.06 | ilhami | mdoge: is it a fresh install? |
| 23:07.11 | ilhami | or almost a fresh install* |
| 23:07.17 | mtn | mdoge: just to be sure, you did dist-upgrade? were you coming from squeeze? |
| 23:07.21 | mdoge | ilhami: i'm not sure what iso he used to install it |
| 23:07.30 | ilhami | mdoge: ask him ? :D |
| 23:07.33 | mdoge | mtn: no.. from wheezy :) |
| 23:07.36 | mdoge | ilhami: se |
| 23:07.36 | mdoge | c |
| 23:07.58 | ilhami | !flash |
| 23:07.58 | dpkg | Flash is frequently used to deliver interactivity, audio and video through a web browser. Ask me about <gnash> and <lightspark> for free implementations, or <adobe flash> and <pepper flash> for non-free implementations. http://wiki.debian.org/Flash |
| 23:07.59 | mtn | mdoge: a fresh wheezy install would not have a 2.6.32-32-pve kernel |
| 23:08.07 | Lady_Aleena | is waiting and waiting and waiting. |
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| 23:08.20 | mdoge | mtn: I see |
| 23:08.34 | ilhami | if there is nothing on the system reinstall it? |
| 23:08.53 | ilhami | doesn't take so much time. |
| 23:08.54 | mdoge | yep |
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| 23:09.03 | mdoge | the thing is, it comes from a template |
| 23:09.05 | mdoge | either puppet or something |
| 23:09.09 | mdoge | ill need to figure it out :) |
| 23:09.25 | mdoge | mtn: so you're saying this is not the right kernel for this distro? |
| 23:09.37 | mdoge | Do you think installing 'apt-get install xfce4-' has something to do with it? |
| 23:09.38 | mtn | mdoge: I don't think that is a debian kernel at all, in fact. |
| 23:09.39 | Lady_Aleena | head desks. |
| 23:09.56 | mtn | mdoge: no, xfce is not a factor |
| 23:09.59 | mdoge | mtn: ack |
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| 23:10.24 | mtn | mdoge: is reinstalling an option? |
| 23:10.55 | mdoge | mtn: yes |
| 23:10.58 | mdoge | will do |
| 23:11.08 | mtn | mdoge: :) |
| 23:11.43 | mdoge | thanks! :) |
| 23:11.59 | ilhami | Ensure your /etc/apt/sources.list file includes the contrib section ( for more information see sources.list ) |
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| 23:12.14 | ilhami | mtn: I do have contrib in one of the lines of my sources.list |
| 23:12.18 | ilhami | do I need it on all? |
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| 23:12.34 | mtn | ilhami: on all? |
| 23:12.43 | ilhami | on all of the lines in my sources.list |
| 23:12.50 | ilhami | I dont see the flashplayer-install atm |
| 23:12.53 | ilhami | the package |
| 23:12.57 | mtn | ilhami: generally, yes |
| 23:13.16 | ilhami | ok let me edit. :) |
| 23:13.52 | mtn | ilhami: https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList |
| 23:14.13 | mtn | ilhami: I alway add non-free and contrib |
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| 23:14.35 | ilhami | I also just did :) |
| 23:15.34 | ilhami | flash player installed. :) |
| 23:15.46 | ilhami | !flash |
| 23:15.46 | dpkg | Flash is frequently used to deliver interactivity, audio and video through a web browser. Ask me about <gnash> and <lightspark> for free implementations, or <adobe flash> and <pepper flash> for non-free implementations. http://wiki.debian.org/Flash |
| 23:15.51 | ilhami | !lightspark |
| 23:15.51 | dpkg | Lightspark is an experimental, high-performance <Flash> player and browser plugin, aiming to support newer formats and the AVM2 virtual machine. The Mozilla browser plugin is packaged for Debian 7 "Wheezy" as browser-plugin-lightspark. http://lightspark.github.io/ #lightspark on irc.freenode.net. |
| 23:16.12 | ilhami | !gnash |
| 23:16.12 | dpkg | Gnash is the GNU <Flash> movie player, developed from GPLFlash and part of the GNU project. The project aims to create a free software player and browser plugin. The browser plugins are packaged for Debian as browser-plugin-gnash (for Iceweasel/Firefox) and konqueror-plugin-gnash. http://www.gnu.org/software/gnash/ #gnash on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 23:16.55 | ilhami | debian just works smoothly. :) |
| 23:17.02 | ilhami | I have nothing to complain about sofar. |
| 23:17.04 | ilhami | so far* |
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| 23:17.44 | mtn | ilhami: if you want factoids from the bot, please do: /msg dpkg. we don't need to see it all ;) |
| 23:17.59 | Lady_Aleena | Okay, I shouldn't have had to kill the process to get IceWeasel to close, nor should I have had to wait for about 15 minutes for it to close. |
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| 23:22.25 | ilhami | mtn: sorry |
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| 23:26.14 | mdoge | mtn: could it be a kernel for openvz? |
| 23:26.25 | mdoge | this is a clean install: |
| 23:26.31 | mtn | mdoge: not familiar with openvz |
| 23:26.33 | mdoge | cat /proc/version â···········Linux version 2.6.32-32-pve (root@lola) (gcc version 4.7.2 (Debian 4.7.2-5) ) #1 SMP Thu Aug 21â··········· 08:50:19 CEST 2014 |
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| 23:29.01 | mdoge | mtn: yep. its from proxmox. |
| 23:29.06 | mdoge | an openvz thing |
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| 23:37.28 | teraflops | mdoge: not only openvz |
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| 23:38.43 | kdeder | has anyone installed 3.18 kernel? |
| 23:39.46 | petn-randall | !anyone |
| 23:39.46 | dpkg | Please do not ask if anyone can help you, knows 'something' or uses 'some_program'. Instead, ask your real question. (If the real question _was_ "does anyone use 'some_program'?" ask me about <popcon> instead.) See <ask> <ask to ask> <polls> <search> <sicco> <smart questions>. |
| 23:39.52 | tracphil | Anyone good at LVM and preseed? My preseed creates all LVM's correctly except the last one which is swap... it ends up being the rest of the device and it should only be 2G... |
| 23:40.38 | tracphil | https://dpaste.de/5y2o is the preseed |
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| 23:44.58 | petn-randall | kdeder: Ask your real question. |
| 23:45.32 | kdeder | what's the recommended way to install kernel 3.18.1(?) in debian testing or sid? |
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| 23:46.23 | rebauld_ | is it in testing or sid? |
| 23:46.55 | petn-randall | kdeder: Depends on what you want to achieve. You're running jessie or sid? And you need 3.18, for some driver? |
| 23:47.46 | petn-randall | kdeder: 3.18 isn't in sid, which is why I ask why you need it. |
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| 23:48.02 | petn-randall | kdeder: If 3.16 does it, just install that instead. |
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| 23:48.37 | ktechmidas | so, according to everything I've read puppet-module should come with the puppet package manager |
| 23:48.43 | ktechmidas | it doesn't seem to |
| 23:49.00 | ktechmidas | *puppet install, from the package manager |
| 23:51.08 | ktechmidas | I would ask in debian-next as I'm running Jessie... |
| 23:51.13 | ktechmidas | but it seems to bring me here :/ |
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| 23:51.30 | ktechmidas | oh crap wrong network |
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| 23:56.08 | kristijonas | hello, I'm trying to configure openvpn, just for educational purposes, as https://wiki.debian.org/OpenVPN explains, and I'm struggling with it. |
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| 23:58.33 | kristijonas | 'ip route add VPNSERVER_IP via LOCALGATEWAY_IP dev eth0 proto static' returns me 'RTNETLINK answers: Invalid argument' |
