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| 00:00.48 | scrubfest | What information lies in this line: deb-src http://http.debian.net/debian/ sid main contrib non-free |
| 00:01.22 | cek | scrubfest: repository information |
| 00:01.48 | scrubfest | No I meant like, word for word. What does it tell you |
| 00:02.12 | cek | nothing. it's just garbage for me |
| 00:02.22 | scrubfest | Ok |
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| 00:02.28 | cek | they should start using json or yaml or some INI style |
| 00:02.29 | scrubfest | I was looking for something like: |
| 00:02.34 | cek | becaus that's crazy |
| 00:02.53 | scrubfest | First we have deb-src, which tells us you are trying to get the packages source |
| 00:02.59 | scrubfest | Then we have the url which... etc |
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| 00:03.34 | cek | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:04.21 | scrubfest | compnent? |
| 00:04.38 | cek | i mean, look at yum's INI style: |
| 00:04.40 | cek | [elrepo] |
| 00:04.40 | cek | name=ELRepo.org Community Enterprise Linux Repository - el6 |
| 00:04.45 | scrubfest | Package areas? |
| 00:04.48 | cek | mirrorlist=http://mirrors.elrepo.org/mirrors-elrepo.el6 |
| 00:04.49 | cek | enabled=1 |
| 00:04.55 | cek | very easy to parse, understand and edit |
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| 00:09.53 | scrubfest | What is main? |
| 00:10.39 | scrubfest | Is it a package-area (if that's what you call it) like Contrib and Non-free? |
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| 00:14.03 | scrubfest | Found it nvm |
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| 00:23.04 | scrubfest | I am trying to backport a package from sid, but when doing apt-get build-dep packagename I get: E: Build-Depends dependency for livestreamer cannot be satisfied because the package python-singledispatch cannot be found. |
| 00:23.08 | scrubfest | What am I doing wrong? |
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| 00:33.21 | Kobra | heh, idk if anyone remebers the convo about apt install rather than apt-get install, but it actually already works, TIL :V |
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| 00:42.31 | scrubfest | in apt-get -b source packagename, what source does it refer to? |
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| 00:50.56 | scrubfest | in apt-get -b source packagename, what source does it refer to? |
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| 00:55.09 | icarious | Hi, I wish to report graphics corruption issues while using UEFI mode for Wheezy/ Jessie. What data should I provide for my hardware? |
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| 01:09.30 | nezZario | hi |
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| 01:09.42 | nezZario | can someone explain to me what 'dpkg-reconfigure -f noninteractive locales' is doing and to how it relates to /etc/locale.gen ? |
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| 01:12.52 | nezZario | I'm just really confused on the whole deal. I have a server image that is coming preconfigured with iso8859-1 but it seems to throw up when I use apt |
| 01:14.08 | nezZario | Just from reading stackoverflow crap I pieced together a snipped to replace /etc/locale.gen with a UTF-8 charset and run that command but I'm curious where I could find more information about the whole locale system .. or even dpkg-reconfigure since the man page is to the point but doens't really hint at what's going on in the background there |
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| 01:38.21 | ob-sed | hi |
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| 01:38.37 | ob-sed | whats the performance like running a virtual machine with windows 7 to play windows-only games on debian 7 ? |
| 01:38.45 | ob-sed | or jessie which will be released in like a year or so? |
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| 01:39.50 | ob-sed | soz, 6 months maybe ? |
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| 01:40.21 | ob-sed | heck maybe even 4 months, i honestly have no idea about the scheduling |
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| 01:45.25 | pfred1 | Wheezy 4evah! |
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| 02:13.31 | LinuxApprentice | ahoy |
| 02:13.39 | LinuxApprentice | i'm curious... |
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| 02:54.49 | shellox | hi guys, does anyone of you use a dynamic generated motd like in ubuntu? I just found that, but I'm not sure how safe it is to be used in production |
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| 02:55.43 | nezZario | shellox: how would it be unsafe? |
| 02:55.49 | nezZario | I think it's just a software package |
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| 03:00.44 | erg0dic | nezZario: I think they go to /usr/lib/locale/locale-archive |
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| 03:46.58 | ROG3R | How do I check if my SSD has DRAT or DZAT? |
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| 04:07.07 | linuxuz3r | merry xmas |
| 04:09.25 | dvs | heh |
| 04:09.32 | dvs | such a Scrooge |
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| 04:09.51 | rscnt | there's no xmas. |
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| 04:10.44 | ROG3R | xmas is a hoax |
| 04:14.11 | Santa_Aleena | Christmas used to mean something to me. |
| 04:14.15 | frangor | what is a hoax? |
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| 04:41.44 | kalansis | i realize i hate alcohol. |
| 04:42.01 | kalansis | degrades my existence even in smalll doses. |
| 04:42.04 | ROG3R | how do I upgrade firmware for my samsung ssd ? |
| 04:43.02 | klys | if it's in /lib/firmware, you can use that |
| 04:43.57 | ROG3R | klys: http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/SSD/global/html/pc/support.html |
| 04:44.11 | ROG3R | apparenlty I should burn an ISO |
| 04:45.54 | klys | yes, bur the .iso on one of your rewritable cd/dvd discs. |
| 04:46.06 | klys | qemu won't help you |
| 04:46.46 | ROG3R | klys: I dont have optic drive at all. i'll burn usb stick |
| 04:47.01 | klys | if you can, go ahead. no big loss. |
| 04:47.35 | ROG3R | my data will be ok. right? |
| 04:47.42 | klys | if you can't, get a cd-rw drive for a few bucks off ebay |
| 04:48.04 | klys | you should know if you have data to overwrite. |
| 04:48.18 | ROG3R | klys: apparently ure on crack |
| 04:49.09 | klys | crack and alcohol are #debian-offtopic. |
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| 05:41.02 | superrorc | for automatic update i should use cron job with apt-get ? |
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| 05:42.48 | klys | if your debconf preferences are set to "answer yes to all questions" then you can do that, yes. |
| 05:43.37 | superrorc | i dont use debconf, my system is vm |
| 05:44.41 | superrorc | choud i execut debconf now? |
| 05:45.44 | superrorc | provider gave me ssh to working system, i am not installed os |
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| 05:54.37 | mohyt_ | Hi |
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| 05:55.15 | mohyt_ | Is there a way to test installation of debian package without messing with apt-repo |
| 05:55.44 | mohyt_ | Or can I create a local repo and test the installation with it and then delete it ? |
| 05:56.39 | xmas_salad | hm, dpkg -i? |
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| 05:59.57 | mohyt_ | That will install package in main repo |
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| 06:00.11 | mohyt_ | I dont want to touch that repo or database ? |
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| 06:00.19 | mohyt_ | I dont want to touch that repo or database. |
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| 06:03.04 | superrorc | dpkg -l |
| 06:03.04 | dpkg | Files in package superrorc-pr0n: /srv/superrorc-pr0n/superrorc.jpg |
| 06:04.01 | xmas_salad | dpkg -i takes a .deb, does not check the repo |
| 06:04.02 | dpkg | package takes a .deb, does not check the repo is already installed |
| 06:04.10 | xmas_salad | erm -.-'' |
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| 06:10.05 | mohyt_ | so you are saying , If I install a deb package using dpkg -i. And after that if I look into dpkg-database for my package. It will not be there ? |
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| 06:13.46 | xmas_salad | wait, dpkg database is the list of installed pkgs under /var/lib/dpkg/status |
| 06:14.15 | xmas_salad | apt repository lists are under /var/lib/apt/lists and there are "main/cintrib/non-free" |
| 06:14.15 | apt | xmas_salad: okay |
| 06:14.35 | xmas_salad | 1 is the list of pkgs installed on the local machine and has no main or non-main -- just THE database |
| 06:14.35 | mohyt_ | ok |
| 06:14.51 | xmas_salad | 2 is the list of pkgs available on the mirror for download |
| 06:15.02 | mohyt_ | yes, And I dont want to mess with already existing database |
| 06:15.25 | xmas_salad | then do in a chroot |
| 06:15.29 | mohyt_ | is there a way to define a local database like $HOME/tmpdb? |
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| 06:16.35 | xmas_salad | yes, it is called chroot |
| 06:17.11 | mohyt_ | Alright.. but it will almost install a whole archive. And that will take time |
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| 06:19.45 | xmas_salad | mount aufs of a tmpfs + / |
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| 06:21.38 | superrorc | How can i remove rpcbind from autostart? update-rc failed http://paste.debian.net/plain/138040 |
| 06:22.35 | socomm | What is best way to run 32bit user space on a 64 bit machine? |
| 06:23.04 | socomm | What I need is 32 bit user space with 64 bit kernel. |
| 06:23.10 | mohyt_ | can you point me out to better link ? |
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| 06:23.24 | socomm | Is it better to just install i386 and upgrade the kernel after install? |
| 06:23.32 | socomm | s/upgrade/change/ |
| 06:26.49 | xmas_salad | mohyt_: by this time you would already have debootstrapped a chroot for this test. anyways see https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/checkit.en.html#pinstall |
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| 06:31.55 | mohyt_ | I already setup this |
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| 06:33.19 | mohyt_ | Actually I dont want to install whole ubuntu again while testing while doing debootstrap |
| 06:34.18 | mohyt_ | I think you were pointing to mount to get rid of this. I like to see the procedure for that. And what variant I should use during debootstrap |
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| 06:37.46 | xmas_salad | create a temp directory, mount a tmpfs over it, mount -t aufs -odirs=tempdir=rw:/=ro |
| 06:37.59 | xmas_salad | then mount --bind the usual dev dev/pts proc sys for the chroot |
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| 06:40.47 | xmas_salad | debootstrap will not install the whole thing, just a minimal environment |
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| 06:42.51 | shakes808 | I put debian on my laptop but it only installed the base. I am trying to put the GNOME gui on it but it doesn't want to take it. It might be that it can't reach the internet, can't ping out; wired. Any suggestions? |
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| 06:44.09 | cynicallemon | shakes808: do you have nameservers listed in /etc/resolv.conf? |
| 06:44.35 | mohyt_ | xmas_salad: I am trying this now. Lets see where it goes. Thanks |
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| 06:45.29 | shakes808 | cynicallemon: I am not seeing that conf file |
| 06:47.00 | cynicallemon | shakes808: do a, echo 'nameserver 8.8.8.8' >> /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 06:47.31 | cynicallemon | shakes808: then make the file is there and then try a ping |
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| 06:48.56 | shakes808 | cynicallemon: nothing came back on the echo |
| 06:50.24 | shakes808 | cynicallemon: created the file and it has nameserver 8,8,8,8 |
| 06:50.26 | cynicallemon | try issing an lspci command and see if your network adapter is listed and what it is |
| 06:50.53 | cynicallemon | it should be 8.8.8.8 not commas |
| 06:51.12 | shakes808 | yeah, they are . no , |
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| 06:56.05 | cynicallemon | shakes808: what listed if you issue a, lspci | grep Ethernet |
| 06:56.34 | shakes808 | cynicallemon: Marvell Technology and Broadcom |
| 06:56.58 | shakes808 | cynicallemon: Ethernet and Network respectively |
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| 06:59.37 | phy1729 | shakes808: what does sudo ifconfig say? (Use a paste site) |
| 07:00.25 | cynicallemon | might be a non-free driver firmware issue possibly |
| 07:00.54 | shakes808 | phy1729: I am working on a seperate laptop than what I have my debian install on. I will have to type it |
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| 07:01.12 | shakes808 | cynicallemon: I had Ubuntu on this machine running with no issues |
| 07:01.38 | phy1729 | shakes808: can you ping anything on the local network? |
| 07:01.39 | cynicallemon | shakes808: ubuntu includes non-free firmware, debian doesnt |
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| 07:02.59 | shakes808 | phy1729: I cannot |
| 07:03.14 | shakes808 | cynicallemon: that would explain why it would run that and not this |
| 07:03.22 | cynicallemon | phy1729: he never had a /etc/resolv.conf until i told him to add one |
| 07:03.34 | phy1729 | so? that could be a dhcp problem |
| 07:04.18 | cynicallemon | shakes808: do you have a eth0 listing in /etc/network/interfaces file? |
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| 07:07.27 | shakes808 | cynicallemon: no. |
| 07:08.06 | phy1729 | if you run sudo dhclient eth0 can you ping things? |
| 07:08.20 | cynicallemon | shakes808: looks like a non-free firmware issue then |
| 07:09.22 | shakes808 | phy1729: doesn't do anything |
| 07:09.37 | shakes808 | cynicallemon: looks like I am going back to Ubuntu then :( |
| 07:09.51 | shakes808 | thank you both for your help and knowledge |
| 07:09.56 | phy1729 | shakes808: what interfaces show up with ip link? |
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| 07:10.28 | cynicallemon | shakes808: when installing debian did you get any installer questions regarding network interfaces? |
| 07:10.29 | shakes808 | phy1729: lo eth0 wlan0 |
| 07:10.45 | phy1729 | are you trying to use wired or wireless? |
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| 07:11.35 | shakes808 | cynicallemon: I remember getting to that point and it not being able to do anything so I had to skip it |
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| 07:11.53 | shakes808 | phy1729: wired currently |
| 07:11.54 | cynicallemon | shakes808: well there you go... |
| 07:12.17 | shakes808 | cynicallemon: thought that I would be able to do something after the install |
| 07:12.36 | shakes808 | cynicallemon: so this computer can't run Debian on it at all? |
| 07:13.42 | cynicallemon | shakes808: yeah you can but you will now need download and install the linux-firmware (free and non-free) package(s) somehow |
| 07:15.25 | shakes808 | cynicallemon: somehow meaning if i can get an internet connection. Is there a way to download them and put them on a flash drive and install them that way? |
| 07:16.22 | cynicallemon | https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/firmware-linux |
| 07:16.44 | cynicallemon | you will need the two dependencies |
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| 07:17.45 | cynicallemon | get those onto a usb stick, mount the usb stick and install via dpkg -i <package name> |
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| 07:20.09 | klys | .w |
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| 08:28.22 | wbill | Merry Xmas |
| 08:28.40 | klys | merry Christmas よ |
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| 08:36.12 | newbsduser | i have a snmp OID - description table (it defines some information for SNMPTRAP messages. for instance: service.shutdown.happened ) question1) For hpopenview integration, should I generate and share a mib file? quesion2) if yes, how can I generate a standard mib file, which tools can be used to do that? |
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| 08:39.30 | klys | snmp is likely a kernel thing, your card and linux are all you are asking about? snmp may or may not, depending on the tools you find. apt-cache search snmp and talk about individual packages folks might use for that |
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| 08:52.02 | lessless | hello folks! where do I change an owner of the folder in the /run directory? |
| 08:52.55 | lessless | the thing is that after reboot the owner of the /run/mpd is set to default user - mpd, but in my system it should be other |
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| 08:56.38 | xmas_salad | lessless: for curiosity, why shouldnt it be the default on your machine |
| 08:57.14 | lessless | xmas_salad, because it's wired up with proftpd and apache under same user audiobox |
| 08:57.20 | jelly-home | lessless: why not find out where it's set in the first place, and change that |
| 08:57.39 | jelly-home | possibly its init script |
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| 08:58.10 | jelly-home | or a file read by the init script somewhere in /etc/default |
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| 08:59.04 | ElDiabolo | Hi. How do I trigger a dkms recompile? |
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| 09:01.35 | klys | ,versions dkms |
| 09:01.37 | judd | Package: dkms on i386 -- squeeze: 2.1.1.2-5; squeeze-backports: 2.2.0.2-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 2.2.0.3-1.2; jessie: 2.2.0.3-2; sid: 2.2.0.3-2 |
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| 09:02.45 | klys | download the .orig and the .patch, unpack and patch -p0; chmox +x debian/rules; dpkg-buildpackage |
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| 09:03.44 | ElDiabolo | Just using dkms dos it "the debian way"? I do not need to dpkg-reconfigure or the like? |
| 09:04.13 | klys | if you intend to reconfigure, that would be the way. |
| 09:04.58 | lessless | jelly-home, yeah, it really was in the init script |
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| 09:11.26 | elevation_ | hi all, it appears I cant access or detect my CD "optical" drive, I've tried everything and I'm totally lost |
| 09:11.38 | elevation_ | did i do something wrong at install? |
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| 09:16.09 | elevation_ | no one is here? |
| 09:16.09 | AimHere | elevation_, the first thing to check is if the hardware sees it. Does it show up in the bios, and if so, can the likes of hardinfo/lshw see it?? |
| 09:16.18 | elevation_ | ah |
| 09:16.18 | elevation_ | ok |
| 09:16.43 | AimHere | elevation_, it's early Christmas morning. USians and Europians are all sleeping or digging their presents out from under the tree |
| 09:16.52 | elevation_ | yeah hehe same here |
| 09:16.55 | elevation_ | im usa |
| 09:17.01 | xmas_salad | I'm not. Look for the file /dev/sr0 |
| 09:17.09 | elevation_ | im at my moms house trying to get debian going on a p3 500 mhz computer with .3 gigs of ram |
| 09:17.47 | elevation_ | theres no sr0 file |
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| 09:18.05 | xmas_salad | no file starting with sr? |
| 09:18.33 | elevation_ | correct |
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| 09:19.08 | xmas_salad | open a terminal, paste this and submit to paste.debian.net: lspci ; lsusb |
| 09:19.15 | xmas_salad | then give us the link of the pastebin |
| 09:19.16 | AimHere | Given how old it sounds, would it necessarily be on sr0? |
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| 09:19.42 | xmas_salad | AimHere: IIRC the device naming is handled by udev |
| 09:19.54 | elevation_ | oh hey no im trying to burn a CD on my laptop |
| 09:20.07 | elevation_ | which is newer, its i7 lenovo g580 |
| 09:20.17 | AimHere | Right, but I'm thinking that maybe this is old enough to be an ide device or something and maybe it goes in a different pile of devices |
| 09:20.29 | elevation_ | heres that paste http://pastebin.com/AgJLLLwm |
| 09:20.50 | elevation_ | i have to be able to burn the CD first before I can move on to that machine |
| 09:21.01 | elevation_ | funny that i havent used my CD/DVD drive in a year plus i've had debian |
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| 09:21.41 | xmas_salad | elevation_: please redo with this command: lspci -nn ; lsusb |
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| 09:23.15 | elevation_ | http://pastebin.com/va1vN5gg |
| 09:23.47 | elevation_ | im not seeing anything DVD-CD related.. |
| 09:24.48 | AimHere | Well there is a SATA controller, but what's beyond that isn't obvious to me |
| 09:26.07 | elevation_ | hmm so what do i do |
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| 09:27.12 | xmas_salad | linux does not see it, not a software issue, check the cable |
| 09:28.43 | AimHere | Umm, what would he see if linux *did* see it? |
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| 09:29.06 | xmas_salad | he would see an entry for that. And still no sr* if it were unsupported by the driver. |
| 09:29.16 | AimHere | 'an entry for that'? |
| 09:29.23 | xmas_salad | in the lspci/lsusb output, I mean. |
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| 09:29.27 | AimHere | Yes. |
| 09:29.49 | AimHere | Because I just typed 'lspci -nn' and I don't see an entry for that myself, yet my dvd drive is working fine |
| 09:30.00 | AimHere | What specifically should I be looking for? |
| 09:30.10 | xmas_salad | check for lsusb, maybe it is attached to the usb bus. |
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| 09:30.27 | AimHere | That too. What specifically should I be looking for? |
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| 09:31.15 | xmas_salad | A row with the make of the drive, at least |
| 09:31.40 | AimHere | Umm, I doubt that |
| 09:31.46 | xmas_salad | if you do not see it, google for each vendor ID:device ID couple in the output and stop when google says dvd drive |
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| 09:32.01 | AimHere | See, drives would be plugged into the SATA controller, ,wouldn't they? |
| 09:32.17 | AimHere | You notice he's not got an entry for his hard drive either |
| 09:32.30 | AimHere | Presumably it's there, since he's actually running software |
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| 09:33.22 | elevation_ | i can confirm i have a hard drive |
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| 09:34.33 | xmas_salad | i see your point |
| 09:34.55 | AimHere | Checking that the hardware can be seen is a good plan though, I'd start with checking if it shows up in the BIOS |
| 09:35.01 | elevation_ | ok then ill brb |
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| 09:42.38 | elevation_ | okay it appears the CD drive is gone |
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| 09:43.08 | AimHere | Physically gone? |
| 09:43.16 | AimHere | Or just not showing up? |
| 09:43.18 | elevation_ | no it still spins and makes noise |
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| 09:43.31 | elevation_ | you know i realize that its been making random noises sometimes |
| 09:43.32 | AimHere | For the latter, you checked the jumper settings? All that Master/Slave/CS thing |
| 09:43.41 | elevation_ | its a laptop... |
| 09:43.44 | elevation_ | how would i check that |
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| 09:44.05 | elevation_ | maybe I can just burn the ISO on the pentium 3 |
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| 09:44.23 | elevation_ | i cant just burn a "data cd" i have to burn an ISO CD right? |
| 09:44.23 | xmas_salad | meanwhile I googled and found out lshw, which on my machine does show the disk attached to the SATA |
| 09:44.37 | AimHere | As per my original suggestion :) |
| 09:44.58 | elevation_ | what command? |
| 09:45.00 | xmas_salad | uh, I did not see it o.o |
| 09:45.06 | AimHere | lshw |
| 09:45.15 | AimHere | I don't think it's in the default debian install |
| 09:45.26 | elevation_ | its not |
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| 09:45.30 | AimHere | Also it complains a little if you don't run it as root |
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| 09:46.42 | elevation_ | ooo thats a cool program |
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| 09:47.59 | veek | anyone use deborphan? it feels like the most useless pkg thingy ever created.. it's listing conky.. how should i use it? |
| 09:49.02 | gry | I used it to find packages I could uninstall but it wasn't terribly useful; I ended up cleaning up the "removed but not purged" list instead |
| 09:49.20 | elevation_ | yeah theres nothing in there about any CD or DVD drives |
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| 09:49.25 | elevation_ | i think its f00ked |
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| 09:50.58 | veek | gry, ah hmm let me check that - thanks |
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| 09:53.18 | elevation_ | anyone see my optical drive??? http://pastebin.com/G2Y5JyPc |
| 09:54.23 | veek | gry how did you get the list of removed pkgs dpkg -l|grep -v ii ? |
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| 09:54.58 | AimHere | There's a removable disk on /dev/sdb |
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| 09:55.06 | AimHere | Is that it? |
| 09:56.13 | elevation_ | okay im just going to use the old computer to burn the DVD, its downloading it now, should be fine |
| 09:56.50 | gry | veek: http://linuxg.net/aptitude-trick-delete-the-packages-that-were-removed-but-not-purged/ beware that i'm a crazie, i was doing this to clean up my startup, and this approach did NOT help. Before using this feature please tell the channel what you're about to do, why you're doing it, and what problem you're trying to solve. |
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| 09:56.54 | elevation_ | it appears to only be downloading at 55 kb/s is that some old ethernet bottleneck? |
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| 09:57.34 | elevation_ | i uninstalled gnome and my network manager using stupid apt-get autoremove |
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| 09:57.40 | elevation_ | that was fun... |
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| 10:00.04 | hightower | Hey gents, I've got Debian 7 installed which is using cryptsetup on top of software RAID. I currently have root partition on RAID in degraded mode (1 out of 2 drives). I can boot Debian's standard 3.2.0 kernel normally (MD arrays get assembled and it asks for crytpsetup password). But with kernel 3.19.0-rc1, the same step where the arrays should be assembled fails (with no obvious message except "failure to assemble..."). What changed? Does 3.19 ref |
| 10:00.05 | hightower | use to assemble a degraded array by default, or? |
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| 10:05.16 | Walex | hightower: since you are using an unreleased kernel which is not part of debian, you are a very advanced system developer so it is difficult to be so arrogant to give you advice :-) |
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| 10:10.11 | linuxuz3r | !sudo |
| 10:10.12 | dpkg | [sudo] (Substitute User DO) Not enabled by default on Debian systems; configure /etc/sudoers first, ask me about <visudo>, <sudoers>. sudo can give limited super user privileges to specific users, or allow you to do silly things like run X apps with root permissions, or good in scripts with "username ALL = NOPASSWD: /some/program". See also <sudo path>. http://wiki.debian.org/sudo http://www.aplawrence.com/Basics/sudo.html |
| 10:10.24 | xmas_salad | hightower: being an RC, you may want to ask on the linux-raid development mailing list |
| 10:10.28 | xmas_salad | http://vger.kernel.org/vger-lists.html#linux-raid |
| 10:10.36 | xmas_salad | or in the #linux-raid chat room |
| 10:10.49 | hightower | Thanks, will do |
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| 10:11.09 | xmas_salad | yw :) |
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| 10:11.35 | linuxuz3r | how do i a user to sudoer |
| 10:12.22 | hightower | linuxuz3r, adduser USERNAME sudo |
| 10:13.18 | hightower | (Or if you want to manipulate the config file more directly, run "update-alternatives --config editor" to choose your default text editor, and then simply "visudo") |
| 10:14.13 | osram | hightower: I suspect the initrd you built with rc1 is lacking some scripts |
| 10:14.38 | osram | Just a guess, not that I have any specifics |
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| 10:16.36 | hightower | osram, in the boot process, the identical steps happen (I was watching the messages), the only difference is that after saying "Assembling MD arrays", 3.2.0 assembles them while 3.19 prints "failed to assemble...". Although you could be on the right track, since I recall that one of mailing list posts I found said that the issue resolved itself after debian dist-upgrade |
| 10:16.51 | hightower | (Which could well mean an update to initramfs scripts/behavior) |
| 10:17.07 | linuxuz3r | it still says me user is not a sudoer |
| 10:17.13 | linuxuz3r | im really confused |
| 10:17.33 | hightower | linuxuz3r, yes, for linux to re-read your group membership, you need to completely log out, and then log back in |
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| 10:19.30 | xmas_salad | IIRC you can do newgrp group_name in a terminal, after that you have group membership in THAT terminal. |
| 10:20.06 | hightower | Right, with also another drawback, that it sets your primary group to "sudo", so it affects group ownership of any new files you create |
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| 10:20.41 | xand | newgrp back to your default group |
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| 10:29.08 | osram | hightower: do you know if the assembly succeeds if all array members are present (ie. non-degraded)? |
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| 10:30.07 | hightower | osram, right, that would be useful to know but I can't check right now. I only got what I got. (On a side note, I did confirm that upgrading initramfs-tools to version from Debian unstable did not help in this particular case.) |
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| 10:32.23 | osram | hightower: in my initrd it's basically just `mdadm --assemble --scan --run --auto=yes' that does the assembly. You might try running this manually (booted from rescue or something) and see if it workds. |
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| 10:36.09 | osram | And check your mdadm.conf (the one in the initrd) for correctness. |
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| 10:37.49 | hightower | osram, right, I've just upgraded mdadm, didn't help, will try running the mdadm assembly manually now |
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| 10:46.12 | `bazhang | 2.82GB GB .mp4 file: "The Interview" Seth Rogan and James Franco: the movie North Korea tried to sensor. courtesy of your friendly neighborhood freenode troll, cholby. MERRY CHRISTMAS AND DON'T FORGET TO SLAP YOUR PUSSIES FOR FREEDOM!!!!! https://www.dropbox.com/s/6mix0gxk4bkbhxn/The%20Interview%20%281080p%29.mp4?dl=0 |
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| 10:52.16 | scrubfest | What is the command to check the java version at runtime? |
| 10:52.48 | scrubfest | I mean from terminal |
| 10:52.59 | babilen | "java -version" |
| 10:53.04 | babilen | (surprise!) |
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| 10:54.35 | scrubfest | babilen Not quite what I am after. |
| 10:54.48 | scrubfest | I am looking to check what version of java an application is running from process-information |
| 10:55.03 | scrubfest | Aka after it's been ran |
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| 10:56.19 | babilen | scrubfest: So check the process cmdline with "cat /proc/$PID/cmdline" |
| 10:56.30 | babilen | (or use ps/top/htop/...) |
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| 11:04.12 | hightower | osram, I see what may be going on. With 3.2, the disk with my root array is recognized properly, before md assembly is attempted. With 3.19, it does not get detected (at least not before mdadm runs) |
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| 11:12.36 | Evropi | hey, so I want to blacklist the kvm module but I can't seem to find a blacklist.conf as per https://wiki.debian.org/KernelModuleBlacklisting -- only an fbdev-blacklist.conf |
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| 11:12.47 | Evropi | is this the file I'm looking to edit? |
| 11:13.11 | hightower | osram, got it resolved by simply using 3.16 from Debian unstable, which worked. (I needed kernel >= 3.12) |
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| 11:17.03 | Evropi | nevermind, I re-read, was just being a fool |
| 11:17.20 | eehy | I can't get 319.82 nvidia graphics drivers work on debian wheezy using backports with 3.16 kernel could someone help please? |
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| 11:18.04 | hightower | eehy, well start with some more detailed problem description... where does it fail, in the compilation process? What is the error? |
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| 11:20.52 | eehy | hightower: no errors during installation but when I create xorg configuration file and restart I get black console and I need to reinstall debian |
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| 11:21.34 | hightower | eehy, you probably don't need to reinstall but simply remove /etc/x11/xorg.cong |
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| 11:21.38 | hightower | .conf* |
| 11:21.51 | eehy | oh ok |
| 11:22.16 | hightower | Sorry /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
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| 11:23.24 | eehy | hightower: someone pointed out in the forums that "I think it might be that the wheezy-backports 319.82-1~bpo70+2 nvidia-driver only supports up to a 3.14 series kernel." |
| 11:23.33 | eehy | but I can't no longer find 3.14 on backports |
| 11:23.48 | babilen | eehy: You shouldn't really use a xorg.conf anyway -- https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Configuration |
| 11:24.00 | babilen | eehy: 3.16 is in backports now |
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| 11:24.22 | hightower | babilen, (right, but assuming the default settings don't work for him, he might have to) |
| 11:24.41 | babilen | You might find 3.14 in snapshots or, if you had it installed before, in /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
| 11:25.08 | babilen | I would consider tracking jessie if you require both a newer kernel and that nvidia driver version btw |
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| 11:25.49 | hightower | eehy, (or if you did not generate and explicit xorg.conf, then you can still get away without re-installing Debian by running dpkg -l | grep nvidia, and then manually invoking apt-get remove PKGNAME, so that uninstalls what it has installed -- after you reboot and go into recovery mode and into shell (non X) session) |
| 11:26.07 | hightower | s/and/any/ |
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| 11:27.20 | eehy | Right, well I reinstalled it already I'll try that next time if it fails. - So I haven't installed 3.14 before, and debian testing causes me other problems so I can't use it at this state |
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| 11:31.05 | eehy | and I require newer kernel because network driver is not working with older ones |
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| 11:32.54 | eehy | I wonder where to find kernel 3.14 snapshot in .deb format as I'm inexperienced user |
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| 11:36.27 | hugbot | eehy |
| 11:36.34 | hugbot | dont be an idiot |
| 11:36.41 | babilen | dpkg: tell eehy -about snapshots |
| 11:36.46 | hugbot | dont try to get your kernal in a deb |
| 11:36.48 | hugbot | https://wiki.debian.org/HowToRebuildAnOfficialDebianKernelPackage |
| 11:36.51 | babilen | hugbot: Please be friendly |
| 11:37.06 | babilen | (and that is ludicrous) |
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| 11:38.13 | hugbot | babilen it wil lgive him everything he needs to compile and load a kernal |
| 11:38.22 | babilen | eehy: I already told you (snapshots or in /var/cache/apt/archives/) -- My recommendation would, however, still be to track jessie. See "<wheezy->jessie>, <jessie>, <jsm>, <apt-listbugs> and <sid faq> for further details -- /msg dpkg wheezy->jessie |
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| 11:40.12 | eehy | babilen: sorry where are the snapshots?, and testing is no-go for me it breaks for me on multiple things |
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| 11:41.20 | babilen | eehy: Check the message our bot sent you, but I'd just grab it from the cache. Could you elaborate on "multiple things" ? |
| 11:43.39 | eehy | babilen: multiple things like, not shutting down, some nagging/errors when editing files, display manager breaking when modifying xorg to disable acceleration |
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| 11:45.31 | nicky | hi everybody |
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| 11:49.30 | Martijn-NL | Hi everyone - I have a problem. Something blocked an incomming request to my Debian machine. Is there a log or something like that so I can recognise the cause of this problem. Are there pushed some updates last time? |
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| 11:52.19 | nkuttler | Martijn-NL: well... many things could block stuff.. external firewall, internal, hosts_allow etc.. |
| 11:53.25 | nkuttler | Martijn-NL: check syslog i guess and the log file of the service, and your firewall rules |
| 11:53.27 | Martijn-NL | nkuttler: It's not my outside firewall (router), becase I have tested it again on another Windows machine. |
| 11:53.56 | Martijn-NL | nkuttler: The stupid is, nothing has be changed. It works until a few days ago. |
| 11:54.10 | nkuttler | Martijn-NL: well, something must have changed |
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| 11:58.45 | hightower | Martijn-NL, either a firewall, or service has stopped working. First, run netstat -ntlp to verify that the service you want to access is indeed running. Then try connecting to it from the local machine, to ensure that local connection works (something like, telnet localhost PORT_NUMBER, or 'ssh localhost' if you were talking about ssh) |
| 11:59.57 | hightower | Martijn-NL, After you got that confirmed, run iptables -L -v to check your firewall settings. If you don't see anything obvious, look at the packet counts in the first column (each time you try to connect from the outside, the packet count on some rule should increase... that will tell you which firewall rule is blocking your requests) |
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| 12:02.28 | Martijn-NL | hightower: The service runs localy. I can access it from another machine, but not from the outside my network. I sure the router port is open. |
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| 12:04.35 | hightower | Martijn-NL, good, then the only issue is your local firewall, or somehow the service has stopped listening on outside IPs (you can verify that in netstat -ntlp output (-- it is OK if it binds to * or the network IP of the machine, but not if it binds to 127.0.0.1)) |
| 12:05.02 | hightower | Martijn-NL, and if you ensure it binds to the outside IPs, then the only remaining issue is looking at iptables -L -v to figure out which fw rule is blocking it |
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| 12:05.38 | hightower | Martijn-NL, (or, if you try to connect and no packet count increases in iptables output, then the packets did not reach your machine (which means the issue is somewhere else -- router, or something)) |
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| 12:08.49 | Martijn-NL | hightower: I see the package-count increases |
| 12:09.44 | hightower | Martijn-NL, great, does this rule have ACCEPT or REJECT (or DROP) at the end? |
| 12:10.00 | Martijn-NL | hightower: ACCEPT |
| 12:10.13 | Joao_do_caminhao | Hello, is debian a good distro to start journey on linux? |
| 12:10.21 | hightower | Martijn-NL, then that's not the one blocking your traffic. |
| 12:10.46 | Martijn-NL | hightower: Hmmmm... what next? :-) |
| 12:10.48 | hightower | Martijn-NL, what service is it (ssh?) and what error you get? |
| 12:11.00 | Martijn-NL | Apache |
| 12:11.47 | hightower | And you're trying to connect with a web browser from the outside? (Try connecting using telnet: telnet IP_ADDR 80) (and then press Ctrl+] to quit if you get any response) |
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| 12:15.29 | Martijn-NL | That works! |
| 12:15.56 | Martijn-NL | Also to visit the webserver from the external ip inside my home network. |
| 12:16.18 | Martijn-NL | But from the outside, it doesn't work. |
| 12:17.08 | hightower | Martijn-NL, ok, if that works, in your browser try using the IP address instead of hostname |
| 12:17.34 | Martijn-NL | The external IP, works also |
| 12:18.00 | Martijn-NL | But from another location ouside my network, I cannot establish a connection with the webserver. |
| 12:18.32 | hightower | Martijn-NL, ok so, this means that now it only does not work if you try to access by hostname? |
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| 12:19.09 | Martijn-NL | hightower: both, hostname and ip |
| 12:19.55 | Martijn-NL | hightower: Crazy issue |
| 12:20.00 | hightower | Martijn-NL, maybe your external IP has changed and you're accessing the wrong IP... Go to www.whatismyipaddress.com from your internal network (behind the router) to verify that the IP is still correct |
| 12:20.34 | Martijn-NL | hightower: No, it's the same |
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| 12:20.58 | hightower | Did you set up port forwarding on the router? (If you didn't it couldn't work) |
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| 12:21.22 | Martijn-NL | I'm sure the problem is inside the Debian installation. I have runned a webserver on my windows machine minutes ago - and that works. |
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| 12:21.53 | hightower | Martijn-NL, well, what means doesn't work? Does it give the wrong webpage, or gives you connection refused? |
| 12:22.00 | debian_uzer | i am sorry about steam and debian testing. crashes by gamestarts and bumblebee-nvidia isn't working for me. have to wait until debian is stable..... |
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| 12:22.27 | hightower | Martijn-NL, also, did you confirm that both your windows and debian installations have the same IP? Maybe router is port-forwarding to an IP address that is correct for your windows, but not for Debian |
| 12:22.39 | debian_uzer | not sorry meaned sad! |
| 12:23.04 | Martijn-NL | hightower: Connection refused |
| 12:23.23 | debian_uzer | anybody successfull installed bumblebee-nvidia in testing? |
| 12:23.27 | hightower | Martijn-NL, that's easy, it means the service you are accessing is not there somehow... |
| 12:23.35 | Martijn-NL | hightower: Yes, the IP is right configured. I have a telnet session with the server. |
| 12:24.14 | Martijn-NL | hightower: That sounds foggy, I can access apache inside my home network with my external ip |
| 12:24.17 | hightower | Martijn-NL, I would say that somehow your apache is not listening on the correct IP... you can paste me netstat -ntlp in private chat so we can look into it |
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| 12:33.55 | DarsVaeda | hi using wheezy I try to remove iceweasel but doing a apt remove it wants to remove gnome and gnome-core too |
| 12:34.08 | DarsVaeda | how do I remove it? |
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| 12:35.36 | hightower | DarsVaeda, gnome/gnome-core are only packages on which others depend on, so you can do that |
| 12:35.56 | DarsVaeda | oh okay |
| 12:36.09 | hightower | (or rather, I mean to say they are packages which depend on other packages -- for easy installation) |
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| 12:37.42 | DarsVaeda | thanks that worked :) |
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| 12:43.05 | Martijn-NL | hightower: Don't know how I can send you a private message, I see the webserver is listening: tcp6 0 0 :::80 :::* LISTEN |
| 12:44.08 | hightower | Martijn-NL, that's the issue... if this is the only line which reports "80", it means that your web server is listening on IPv6, but not on IPv4 which the router is trying to access (when you access from outside) |
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| 12:44.32 | Dagger | except if net.ipv6.bindv6only is left at the default value of 0 |
| 12:44.42 | Dagger | in which case, that tcp6 socket can accept v4 connections too |
| 12:44.45 | Martijn-NL | hightower: Wow, thanks a lot. How can I change it? |
| 12:45.30 | child | I cant access my server http://localhost:port outsite. There are no firewall rules, all policies accept, and if I use lynx inside the server, it shows properly working... any idea? |
| 12:45.52 | Martijn-NL | child: I have the same problem. |
| 12:46.16 | Martijn-NL | child: Run command netstat -nltp |
| 12:46.23 | hightower | Dagger, hm, interesting insight. I assume that he didn't change the default, but even from my own experience I was also not able to access ipv4 until I explicitly added ipv4 address in apache |
| 12:47.10 | Martijn-NL | child: Run command: netstat -ntlp ... What do you see by port 80? |
| 12:47.36 | child | listening... |
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| 12:47.54 | Martijn-NL | child: Can you post the port 80 line here? |
| 12:48.06 | child | tcp 0 0 0.0.0.0:80 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 477/apache2 |
| 12:48.40 | child | but Im not using the 80 at this case |
| 12:48.42 | Martijn-NL | child: Is apache running? |
| 12:48.44 | child | 80 is fine |
| 12:49.03 | child | Im trying rails |
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| 12:49.23 | Dagger | hightower: thinking about it... I tested with apache the other day, and I couldn't get it to reject v4 connections. even explicitly asking for "Listen [::]:80" with bindv6only=1, it would still accept v4 connections on the v6 socket |
| 12:49.37 | Dagger | hightower: (there's a per-socket option for it too, which I assume apache sets) |
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| 12:50.07 | child | Martijn-NL: isnot your problem a firewall issue? |
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| 12:50.41 | hightower | Martijn-NL: I would try with this in your case: edit /etc/apache2/ports.conf, and where you see "Listen 80", change that to "Listen YOUR_IP:80", then /etc/init.d/apache restart, and try again, just for test |
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| 12:51.24 | hightower | (where YOUR_IP is your server's IP on the internal network) |
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| 12:54.26 | Martijn-NL | hightower: Doesn't work |
| 12:54.49 | hightower | Martijn-NL, can you verify netstat -ntlp | grep 80 now? What does it say? |
| 12:55.04 | child | my apache is listening at the 0.0.0.0:80 while rails on 127.0.0.1:3000 . change for the same 0.0.0 |
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| 12:55.26 | Martijn-NL | hightower: The same |
| 12:55.34 | Wraith- | hello, how to modify filesystem of pendrive /dev/sdb1: LABEL="Debian 7.7.0 i386 1" TYPE="iso9660" |
| 12:55.46 | Wraith- | i try tune2fs -j /dev/sdb1 |
| 12:56.13 | Wraith- | tune2fs 1.42.5 (29-Jul-2012) |
| 12:56.13 | Wraith- | tune2fs: Bad magic number in super-block while trying to open /dev/sdb1 |
| 12:56.14 | Wraith- | Couldn't find valid filesystem superblock. |
| 12:56.20 | child | what the port are you trying Martijn-NL ? |
| 12:56.22 | hightower | Martijn-NL, did you restart apache? /etc/init.d/apache2 restart |
| 12:56.34 | Martijn-NL | Yes, of course. |
| 12:56.39 | Martijn-NL | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:56.42 | hightower | (martin: it most certainly shouldn't report ipv6 any more) |
| 12:56.51 | hightower | It should look like: |
| 12:56.51 | child | Martijn-NL: what are you running more at the server? |
| 12:57.09 | hightower | tcp 0 0 YOUR_IP:80 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN PID/apache2 |
| 12:58.35 | child | are your interfaces virtual Martijn-NL ? |
| 12:59.03 | Martijn-NL | child: I have no idea what you're meaning |
| 12:59.34 | child | is a virtual server or physical? |
| 12:59.42 | Martijn-NL | child: Physical. |
| 13:00.13 | child | in a data center or at home? |
| 13:00.43 | hightower | Martijn-NL, did you manage to get netstat output to be similar to what I pasted above? |
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| 13:01.33 | vger_1 | Hello. I can't connect to wi-fi on my laptop. |
| 13:01.35 | child | Martijn-NL: try nmaping outside to check if they are really being showed outside |
| 13:01.47 | Martijn-NL | child: At home. It's a very simple lightweight experimental server running on RaspBMC (Debian based). It has always worked perfectly until a few days ago. I have already asked the RaspBMC community, but they refers me to here. |
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| 13:02.58 | Martijn-NL | child: The RaspBMC says there are no new updates pushed last days. |
| 13:03.32 | child | did you installed any new package after that? |
| 13:03.40 | child | install |
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| 13:09.37 | Martijn-NL | child: Nothing |
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| 13:38.59 | Martijn-NL_ | hightower: A router reboot did the job. |
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| 13:41.31 | hightower | Martijn-NL_, lol |
| 13:41.56 | Martijn-NL_ | hightower: Sick, but it is the solution. |
| 13:42.28 | Martijn-NL_ | Stupid router. |
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| 14:21.56 | Walex | hightower: try: ls /sys/module/md_mod/parameters/ |
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| 14:46.09 | Nebukadneza | heho |
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| 14:50.28 | vger_1 | hello. i am trying to connect my laptop to wi-fi. I ran lshw -C network and can't find my wireless adapter. |
| 14:51.19 | ompaul | vger_1: what kind of laptop, make and manufacturer |
| 14:51.58 | vger_1 | ompaul: dell inspiron 5000 series |
| 14:52.06 | ompaul | year |
| 14:52.12 | vger_1 | new |
| 14:52.43 | Nebukadneza | haha - hooo hooo hooo :D |
| 14:52.48 | ompaul | does it have a physical switch for the chipset? |
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| 14:53.46 | vger_1 | ompaul: i don't know what that means. like a switch somewhere on the case? |
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| 14:54.14 | ompaul | vger_1: yes, I just looked up that model with the word linux and got this http://alloutput.com/amateur-radio/notes-on-linux-on-a-dell-inspiron-17-5000-2014-model-no-5748.html/ |
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| 14:54.31 | ompaul | vger_1: so I want you to paste the following info in the web site I name |
| 14:54.45 | ompaul | info: lsusb site: http://paste.debian.net |
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| 14:58.35 | vger_1 | ompaul: ok |
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| 14:59.26 | vger_1 | http://paste.debian.net/138060 |
| 15:00.09 | ompaul | vger_1: run this as root for the moment apt-get install wireless-tools |
| 15:00.44 | ompaul | vger_1: must be the day that is in it - I wanted lspci (sorry) |
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| 15:01.30 | vger_1 | ompaul: it's already installed |
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| 15:02.34 | ompaul | vger_1: in that case can we have the pci data |
| 15:02.44 | Miesco | Hi. How would one find out the size in gigabytes of all the partitions on a hard drive? |
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| 15:03.54 | ompaul | Miesco: df -h will tell you all that is mounted - one of the partitioning tools will give you some size stuff gparted for instance WARNING do it wrong kill your computer |
| 15:04.46 | ompaul | I love the smell of installs of an afternoon |
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| 15:04.55 | vger_1 | ompaul: http://paste.debian.net/138061 |
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| 15:06.38 | ompaul | vger_1: not what IO was looking for here is a more refined version one line lspci -nn | grep Network |
| 15:07.24 | vger_1 | ompaul: sorry. i meant to send this paste.debian.net/download/138062 |
| 15:07.52 | ompaul | download a file ... put in the web page |
| 15:09.02 | Miesco | See, I got a hard drive thats 256GB. I have a 512GB hard drive with 215GB allocated to linux fs, 7.4GB to swap. I am trying to dd the old hard drive linux to the new hard drive. Here is the partition table: http://paste.pound-python.org/show/RxElAKqXmIcJuRRWP5TP/ |
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| 15:09.27 | ompaul | vger_1: it seems you have an intel wireless card |
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| 15:09.32 | vger_1 | ompaul: 02:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Intel Corporation Device [8086:08b3] (rev 83) |
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| 15:10.24 | vger_1 | am i screwed? do i have to get a new card? |
| 15:10.41 | ompaul | vger_1: not yet |
| 15:11.27 | Miesco | I guess I would need to partition my new hard drive then dd each partition? Well can I make the partitions the exact same size? Do I only need the ext4, swap, and BIOS partition? Do I need the BIOS partition? |
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| 15:13.40 | abrotman | vger_1: might want to run 'update-pciids' |
| 15:13.43 | Shadow_7 | you can use files for swap |
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| 15:14.33 | ompaul | vger_1: you need this iwlwifi |
| 15:14.54 | ompaul | vger_1: installed from non-free repo and full name firmware-iwlwifi |
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| 15:15.32 | ompaul | vger_1: as it is firmware I'd reboot |
| 15:15.59 | ompaul | vger_1: that should get you going |
| 15:17.02 | vger_1 | abrotman: now it says Intel Corporation Wireless 3160 [8086:08b3] (rev 83) |
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| 15:17.43 | abrotman | vger_1: much better |
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| 15:18.01 | abrotman | isn't so sure the iwlwifi/kernel in wheezy know about that device |
| 15:18.17 | ompaul | if not it is a backport |
| 15:18.24 | ompaul | but that is the right package for it |
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| 15:18.59 | ompaul | http://linux-wless.passys.nl/query_chipset.php?chipset=Intel |
| 15:19.30 | ompaul | abrotman: any idea on working out when something hit the tree? |
| 15:20.08 | abrotman | ompaul: usually after going off the road |
| 15:20.27 | ompaul | abrotman: brilliant answer, well construed |
| 15:20.35 | ompaul | chuckles |
| 15:21.13 | abrotman | ompaul: have to check the changelog, yay |
| 15:21.25 | abrotman | ompaul: though, gsimmons usually populates dpkg with wifi things |
| 15:21.27 | ompaul | abrotman: no time for that today |
| 15:21.42 | ompaul | there is that |
| 15:21.50 | abrotman | !iwl3160 |
| 15:21.50 | dpkg | The Intel Dual Band Wireless AC (802.11ac, a/b/g/n compatible) 7000 series (e.g. 7260: PCI ID 8086:08b1, 3160: PCI ID 8086:08b3) is supported by <iwlwifi> since Linux 3.10. Firmware is required and packaged for Debian since firmware-iwlwifi 0.39. Debian 7 "Wheezy" users: ask me about <bdo kernel> and install firmware-iwlwifi from <wheezy-backports>. See also <btusb>. |
| 15:22.09 | abrotman | everyone happy? :) |
| 15:22.21 | abrotman | dpkg: tell vger_1 about wheezy backports |
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| 15:24.00 | ompaul | https://wiki.debian.org/iwlwifi#Supported_Devices |
| 15:24.06 | vger_1 | ok. i'm gonna do a reboot. wish me luck. |
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| 15:24.21 | ompaul | vger_1: no |
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| 15:24.30 | ompaul | vger_1: read what abrotman sent you |
| 15:24.38 | vger_1 | ok |
| 15:24.40 | ompaul | machine too new you need a backported kernel |
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| 15:25.11 | vger_1 | ok so i have no idea what that means. |
| 15:25.16 | ompaul | vger_1: /msg dpkg bdo kernel |
| 15:25.26 | ompaul | in irc and the bot will explain it |
| 15:25.33 | vger_1 | ok |
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| 15:26.17 | ompaul | next time buy a laptop that has a supported chipset :) |
| 15:26.29 | ompaul | supported by stable that is |
| 15:27.03 | ompaul | said the man who is running 3.18 |
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| 15:29.13 | mjkr | does ppp run /etc/ppp/ip-up.d/* at root or something else? |
| 15:29.20 | mjkr | s/ppp/pppd/1 |
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| 15:30.20 | abrotman | mjkr: I'd think as root |
| 15:30.30 | abrotman | mjkr: but you may need to use full path to binaries |
| 15:30.48 | mjkr | so i can use the script to modprobe kernel modules then? |
| 15:30.57 | mjkr | (i plan to modprobe ip6_tunnel) |
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| 15:33.00 | abrotman | mjkr: seems pretty likely |
| 15:33.09 | mjkr | thanks alot! |
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| 15:41.02 | Nebukadneza | say, is anyone in here good with exim and DKIM? i'm currently trying to get a debian-stable exim to sign my messages, i've added the DKIM_<...> configuration variables to my conf.d/main/02_<...> file, generated exim4.conf.template from that, called update-exim4.conf with that, then restarted exim |
| 15:41.07 | Nebukadneza | my config looks like http://nopaste.ghostdub.de/?1069 |
| 15:41.31 | Nebukadneza | however, exim doesn't seem to sign my message at all (at least when i send some to myself...) -- and i have no idea how to start debugging this |
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| 15:46.19 | abrotman | Nebukadneza: there is a #exim ? |
| 15:46.41 | Nebukadneza | mh, in the past #exim was mildly unhelpful claiming "debian tinkered quite a bit with exim, ask them" :D |
| 15:47.04 | abrotman | Do they have general docs about DKIM? |
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| 15:50.02 | Nebukadneza | oh... that aside, i just found out that DKIM isn't used for sending to localhost |
| 15:50.12 | Nebukadneza | makes sense... sending to a foreign host, it seems my DKIM setup succeeded ;d |
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| 15:50.41 | abrotman | Nebukadneza: good deal, DMARC next? :) |
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| 15:51.36 | Nebukadneza | to be honest, i don't know what DMARC is |
| 15:51.53 | Nebukadneza | i recently migrated my rootserver elsewhere, getting a new IP -- ever since gmail doesn't accept my mail anymore |
| 15:52.04 | abrotman | at all? |
| 15:52.04 | Nebukadneza | i had hoped that by adding DKIM i can convince them to like me again ;0 |
| 15:52.19 | Nebukadneza | as far as i can see, at all |
| 15:52.20 | abrotman | perhaps |
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| 15:52.30 | abrotman | the errors from their MTAs might be helpful |
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| 15:53.18 | Nebukadneza | nothing much in there, except a link to their "why we don't like you" FAQ entry |
| 15:53.27 | Nebukadneza | which said "well uhm ... you look spammy. it happens", mostly |
| 15:53.36 | abrotman | DKIM might help |
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| 15:54.30 | Nebukadneza | okay, for one domain it works now |
| 15:55.23 | Nebukadneza | problem's ... we're hosting the DNS for our primary domain at our server-hosters NS, to have access to our machine even if/when our own bind for some reason fails |
| 15:55.32 | Nebukadneza | well ... thing is ... their ugly web-GUI doesn't allow TXT records |
| 15:55.41 | Nebukadneza | so now for one domain i get DKIM, for others not -.- |
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| 16:11.50 | Bluewolf | Hi could some one tell me what command is used to get this System output? - http://paste.debian.net/138064/ |
| 16:12.03 | child | how can I spread out the address 127.0.0.1:3000 not only the localhost, but for entire web ? |
| 16:12.47 | Nebukadneza | replace 127.0.0.1 by your public ip? |
| 16:13.11 | Ticho | bribe IANA to declare 127/8 block routable :) |
| 16:13.12 | child | i cant the daemon automatically run using 127.0.0.1 |
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| 16:13.32 | child | its not being watched outside... |
| 16:13.38 | mtn | Bluewolf: I think it is: inxi -F |
| 16:13.53 | child | Nebukadneza: do you have an idea? |
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| 16:14.09 | Nebukadneza | child: i fear i don't understand your explanation ;/ |
| 16:14.20 | Ticho | you could use netcat, or ssh, or several other tools to "tunnel" it to outside-facing interface |
| 16:14.28 | Nebukadneza | you cannot configure the daemon to anything other than 127.0.0.1? |
| 16:14.38 | Nebukadneza | *to listen on |
| 16:14.59 | child | Nebukadneza: I'm runing rails on localhost:3000, but I cant access this address outside the server... just inside using lynx |
| 16:15.13 | Walex | child: that was you decision! |
| 16:15.22 | Nebukadneza | you can configure rails to listen on '0.0.0.0' (any interface) instead of localhost/127.0.0.1 |
| 16:15.27 | child | Walex: what you mean |
| 16:15.52 | child | probably but its a lot of work |
| 16:15.58 | Walex | child: well, you decided to do so... "I'm runing rails on localhost:3000". |
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| 16:16.25 | child | Walex: no, I just did setup the whole thing.. and that the way it works |
| 16:16.27 | Walex | child: probably changing binding address is very easy, or you could run a proxy server with a public address on the same machine |
| 16:16.32 | Bluewolf | mtn: Strange it's not working in when I enter it in the terminal - sudo inxi -F - sudo: inxi: command not found? |
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| 16:17.03 | Nebukadneza | child: take it from us, changing that tiny little rails config is the easiest way |
| 16:17.06 | mtn | Bluewolf: so you need to install inxi? it is not available on stable, I believe, but is available in testing |
| 16:17.08 | Walex | child: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/mod_proxy.html |
| 16:17.25 | mtn | Bluewolf: http://packages.debian.org |
| 16:17.48 | child | the problem Nebukadneza is that anything there will I need to change? like python, like any other stuff using localhost |
| 16:18.21 | child | Walex Nebukadneza thanks |
| 16:18.26 | Nebukadneza | you will only need to change the rails config |
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| 16:18.43 | Bluewolf | mtn: Oh silly me, is there an alternative command I can use in stead? |
| 16:18.55 | Nebukadneza | when starting, just add --binding=0.0.0.0 -- or any of your public IPs |
| 16:18.55 | child | yeah but I use also python at the same way |
| 16:18.57 | mtn | Bluewolf: not to get all of that in one go, no |
| 16:19.35 | child | I appreciated the advices |
| 16:20.10 | Nebukadneza | for most python tools/frameworks for web development (i'm guessing here) its also just one line in a config file and/or one commandline parameter |
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| 16:21.18 | Bluewolf | mtn: Okay no sweet, could you help with a couple more commands if you can, what's the purpose of this? - sudo dpkg -iR ~/Downloads/ |
| 16:21.26 | Ticho | doesn't RoR have a webserver to proxy that localhost to outside, not needing apache at all? |
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| 16:21.38 | mtn | Bluewolf: man dpkg |
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| 16:24.07 | Bluewolf | mtn: sudo lshw does the other command, complex though. Sorry man dpkg? |
| 16:24.28 | mtn | Bluewolf: man pages explain commands. so, in terminal: man dpkg |
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| 16:25.34 | child | Walex Nebukadneza should it be working outside if its working on 127.0.0.1 ? |
| 16:25.59 | Nebukadneza | that depends on what "it" is, but usually i'd guess so |
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| 16:26.58 | Bluewolf | mtn: Okay so it would work like this as well? - man dpkg lshw |
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| 16:27.35 | mtn | Bluewolf: no, because that is two commands. do one at a time. |
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| 16:33.16 | Bluewolf | mtn: Okay got it man, thanks. This stuff is a nightmare to learn |-) |
| 16:33.43 | mtn | Bluewolf: you will get it |
| 16:34.02 | mtn | Bluewolf: just takes time and attention, like anything else about computers |
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| 16:34.42 | Bluewolf | mtn: Hmp, yeah I have been on linux for a while and learning it is not easy. :D |
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| 16:39.12 | Bluewolf | mtn: What is the meaning of the command cd - something directory? |
| 16:39.21 | Bluewolf | Or does it not have a meaning? |
| 16:39.31 | sandman13 | change directory |
| 16:39.35 | mtn | Bluewolf: again, man cd. change directory |
| 16:39.55 | mtn | Bluewolf: really, the man pages are there for a reason ;) |
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| 16:40.58 | jhutchins | Bluewolf: http://tldp.org/HOWTO/DOS-Win-to-Linux-HOWTO.html http://www.linuxcommand.org/ https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BasicCommands http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2005/05/20/terminal1.html http://www.ischool.berkeley.edu/~kevin/unix-tutorial/toc.html http://linuxcommand.org/lc3_learning_the_shell.php http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php |
| 16:41.06 | jhutchins | <PROTECTED> |
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| 16:41.39 | mtn | that ought to do it! |
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| 16:42.07 | Bluewolf | mtn: Yeah, thanks for the time and help, :-! |
| 16:42.16 | sandman13 | jhutchins: the last link... |
| 16:42.17 | jhutchins | The DOS-Win-to-Linux isn't as useful as it once was, few people get into the command shell on Windows these days. |
| 16:42.29 | mtn | Bluewolf: welcome |
| 16:42.32 | Bluewolf | jhutchins: Thanks as well |
| 16:42.45 | AimHere | jhutchins, that's a shame actually. Powershell is actually decent! |
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| 16:43.25 | ChrisH | Fresh installation of Wheezy onto HP Probook 6450b and the WLAN LED blinks (looks like its related to the traffic). How to stop the LED from blinking? google search did no did not help yet. |
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| 16:43.48 | sandman13 | jhutchins: command shell is barely required for day to day usage especially on a desktop. When problem arises first you try to solve it. Incase of failure, reinstall the whole OS |
| 16:43.52 | jhutchins | ChrisH: Why? |
| 16:44.03 | sandman13 | jhutchins: for Windows |
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| 16:44.17 | turnedtodust | ChrisH: black electrical tape.. |
| 16:44.33 | turnedtodust | Seriously. and Jokingly at the same time. |
| 16:44.38 | lanodan | ChrisH: Hardware related, it’s not about the OS |
| 16:44.56 | jhutchins | < MCSE, but not for the last 10 years. |
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| 16:45.22 | abrotman | That explains a lot .. |
| 16:45.24 | ChrisH | jhutchins: I did not find the symption mentioned anywhere. On Probook 6460b and Elitebook 690 we did not see that blinking (some have different LEDs) |
| 16:45.25 | sandman13 | jhutchins: you are a MCSE? |
| 16:45.41 | jhutchins | ChrisH: It's meant to work that way, it's not a symptom or a bug. |
| 16:45.59 | jhutchins | sandman13: I consider it past-tense. |
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| 16:48.10 | sandman13 | one thing I don't like is the way Windows is promoted. Like it's some sort of universal operating system and solution to all of your problems. But that's my opinion and nobody has to agree on that. :) |
| 16:48.31 | jhutchins | sandman13: Yes, but off-topic here. |
| 16:49.06 | sandman13 | I know |
| 16:49.50 | abrotman | ChrisH: sometimes, there's a driver parameter .. do oyu know which driver is for your wireless? |
| 16:50.48 | sandman13 | ChrisH: I think you are accessing Internet using your wireless media. |
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| 16:51.04 | abrotman | blinks .. |
| 16:51.15 | ChrisH | With the HW hint I found something usefull. So its modprodbe iwlwifi led_mode=1 |
| 16:51.26 | abrotman | ChrisH: yeah, that's what I was hinting at |
| 16:51.33 | ChrisH | now its LED blue = on, orange = off and static |
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| 16:52.18 | ChrisH | Next hint: where to put that option to be reboot safe ? /etc/modprobe.d ? |
| 16:52.45 | abrotman | ChrisH: yes |
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| 16:56.03 | vger_1 | abrotman: i'm not sure where things went wrong but I still have no wi-fi. I couldn't get the backport to install. Can you tell me that if I wait for Jessie to be released, my problem will be solved? |
| 16:56.25 | abrotman | vger_1: do you have internet on the system now? with your wired network? |
| 16:56.32 | vger_1 | yeah |
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| 16:56.54 | abrotman | vger_1: show us your sources.list |
| 16:56.57 | abrotman | paste.debian.net please |
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| 17:00.26 | vger_1 | how do i get sources.list from the command line? |
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| 17:00.54 | sandman13 | nano /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 17:01.03 | vger_1 | thanks |
| 17:01.13 | ChrisH | LED blinking stopped... daughter happy :) |
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| 17:03.52 | vger_1 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 17:05.54 | sandman13 | vger_1: which package are you trying to get from backports? |
| 17:06.14 | abrotman | vger_1: what is 'uname -r' ? |
| 17:06.26 | mtn | would help if backports was in his sources ;) |
| 17:06.37 | abrotman | mtn: see the last two lines |
| 17:06.49 | vger_1 | i just copied what dpkg gave me |
| 17:06.50 | sandman13 | yeah last two lines mtn |
| 17:06.51 | mtn | abrotman: jeez, blind in one eye..... |
| 17:07.08 | mtn | and can't see out the other |
| 17:07.23 | abrotman | vger_1: what is 'uname -a' ? |
| 17:07.40 | kristijonas | hello, do any of you use pastebinit? |
| 17:07.46 | abrotman | vger_1: aptitude update ; aptitude -t wheezy-backports install linux-image-`uname -r|sed 's,[^-]*-[^-]*-,,'` |
| 17:07.52 | abrotman | kristijonas: lots of people |
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| 17:09.44 | kristijonas | abrotman, whenever I try to use any of 'pastebinit -l' websites, the errror 'Unknown website, please post a bugreport to request this pastebin to be added (fpaste.org)' occours. |
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| 17:11.34 | abrotman | kristijonas: which version of Debian? |
| 17:11.44 | kristijonas | abrotman, wheezy. |
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| 17:12.35 | abrotman | kristijonas: works fine here |
| 17:13.41 | vger_1 | abrotman: ok. it unpacked and did a bunch of stuff but the last line is: W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/rtl_nic/rtl8168d-1.fw for module r8169 |
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| 17:14.28 | kristijonas | abrotman, hm, maybe I do something in a wrong way. If I use pastebinit without -b argument, ' pastebinit -i test.txt' then the output is 'http://paste.debian.net/', and if I do it with -b argument, then unknown website error. |
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| 17:17.43 | lanodan | Is it safe to put GNU/kFreeBSD on a GNU/Linux machine ? (too lazy to re-install and configure everything) |
| 17:18.34 | kristijonas | abrotman, oh, -b is the url, not just host. |
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| 17:20.55 | abrotman | kristijonas: Right .. |
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| 17:21.16 | abrotman | vger_1: have you also installed the iwlwifi package from backports? |
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| 17:21.47 | vger_1 | abrotman: no |
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| 17:24.21 | abrotman | vger_1: aptitude -t wheezy-backports install firmware-iwlwifi |
| 17:24.44 | abrotman | vger_1: aptitude -t wheezy-backports install firmware-iwlwifi firmware-realtek |
| 17:24.57 | sandman13 | was going to specify that |
| 17:24.59 | abrotman | vger_1: you might have to enable non-free for the backports and run aptitude update if you hadn't already done that |
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| 17:26.06 | vger_1 | abrotman: ok. i think it installed. |
| 17:26.15 | vger_1 | should i reboot? |
| 17:27.07 | sandman13 | I don't think so |
| 17:27.11 | abrotman | vger_1: yes |
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| 17:28.29 | sandman13 | vger_1: follow abrotman ;) |
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| 17:34.15 | antithesis | Can anyone help me with my fstab? I'm trying to automount my usb stick (with write access), but I get "Error mounting system-managed device /dev/sdb1: Command-line `mount "/media/usb1"' exited with non-zero exit status 1: mount: failed to parse mount options". |
| 17:34.26 | antithesis | Here's my fstab: http://pastebin.com/9mmaSV0G |
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| 17:34.45 | antithesis | It seems as if it's running mount with just one argument instead of two. |
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| 17:37.14 | towo` | antithesis, do not put usb devices in fstab |
| 17:37.38 | towo` | antithesis, and i would oracle, /media/usb1 and /media/usb2 does not exist |
| 17:37.47 | antithesis | They do in fact exist |
| 17:37.48 | antithesis | How, then, am I to automount usb devices, towo` ? |
| 17:38.06 | towo` | depends on your used DE |
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| 17:38.15 | antithesis | notion. |
| 17:38.16 | antithesis | startx. |
| 17:38.38 | towo` | sayes nothing! |
| 17:38.52 | antithesis | Yeah I don't use a DE. |
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| 17:39.07 | towo` | and what you see after startx? |
| 17:39.32 | antithesis | Just my window manager. |
| 17:39.38 | towo` | which is? |
| 17:39.40 | antithesis | notion |
| 17:39.59 | towo` | then try usbmount or autofs |
| 17:40.01 | antithesis | (It's an ion3 fork) |
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| 17:40.45 | antithesis | I'll look into it thanks |
| 17:40.50 | towo` | usb devices in fstab do not make many sense |
| 17:41.00 | vger_1 | abrotman: still no luck. is there anything else i can try? i really appreciate your help. |
| 17:41.04 | towo` | because it fails, if the devices are not plugged in |
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| 17:41.52 | abrotman | vger_1: what is "uname -a" now ? |
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| 17:45.30 | sandman13 | vger_1: what is the wireless card you are using? |
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| 17:46.06 | friese | hi guys |
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| 17:46.41 | sandman13 | did you turn on the hardware switch? have you "Enabled Wi-Fi"? |
| 17:46.53 | sandman13 | *Enable |
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| 17:47.05 | friese | i'm using python-apt on debian wheezy to get a list of package installed/candidate-versions. how can i check, if the candidate version is a security update or just a regular one? |
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| 17:48.25 | friese | i could scan the uri-Property of the version-object for the word security, but i don't think that's the right way to go |
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| 17:50.33 | MarBle_ | Hey |
| 17:50.50 | MarBle_ | I got a problem with mono |
| 17:51.07 | MarBle_ | Got a SIGABRT while executing native code. This usually indicates a fatal error in the mono runtime or one of the native libraries used by your application. |
| 17:51.14 | MarBle_ | how may i fix this? |
| 17:51.18 | vger_1 | sandman13: i haven't found any hardware switch. |
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| 17:51.44 | sandman13 | vger_1: are you on laptop? |
| 17:51.49 | vger_1 | yes |
| 17:51.51 | Devastator | vger_1 I think you should start by giving the output abrotman requested |
| 17:52.20 | vger_1 | ugh. i'm so sorry. how do i do that again? |
| 17:53.01 | Devastator | vger_1 uname -a and paste it here to him |
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| 17:53.57 | vger_1 | abrotman: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt2-1~bpo70+1 (2014-12-08) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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| 17:55.12 | abrotman | vger_1: dmesg | grep iwl |
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| 17:57.35 | vger_1 | abrotman: http://paste.debian.net/138072 |
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| 17:58.21 | abrotman | vger_1: dpkg -l firmware-iwlwifif |
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| 17:58.24 | abrotman | vger_1: dpkg -l firmware-iwlwifi |
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| 18:00.09 | CryptoSiD | Hi and merry christmas! little question, is it safe to clone an hdd to an ssd, i installed debian on an hdd and i plan to clone the partition to an ssd, if its safe at least, or maybe debian tweak some stuff for an ssd at installation so i better reinstall? |
| 18:00.28 | vger_1 | abrotman: http://paste.debian.net/138074 |
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| 18:02.10 | abrotman | vger_1: you didn't run the ocmmand I asked you to earlier |
| 18:02.15 | abrotman | vger_1: aptitude -t wheezy-backports install firmware-iwlwifi firmware-realtek |
| 18:02.25 | vger_1 | abrotman, i did that. |
| 18:02.39 | vger_1 | i'll try again. |
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| 18:03.02 | Devastator | pastebin your sources.list, maybe you don't have enabled non-free for backports |
| 18:03.49 | abrotman | I said that awhile ago |
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| 18:05.09 | vger_1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:05.09 | vger_1 | No packages will be installed, upgraded, or removed. |
| 18:05.09 | vger_1 | 0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 132 not upgraded. |
| 18:05.09 | vger_1 | Need to get 0 B of archives. After unpacking 0 B will be used. |
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| 18:05.30 | Devastator | great |
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| 18:06.01 | Devastator | vger_1 can you please pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list? |
| 18:06.03 | sandman13 | abrotman: modprobe -r iwlwifi; modprobe iwlwifi has he run that? |
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| 18:06.27 | Devastator | sandman13 he is not using firmware-iwlwifi from backports |
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| 18:09.52 | vger_1 | http://paste.debian.net/138075 |
| 18:10.03 | vger_1 | sources.list |
| 18:11.04 | Devastator | vger_1 add contrib non-free to the last 2 lines, save, then run aptitude update |
| 18:11.22 | jaggzt | how do you go about shutting down mysql which is ran by akonadi? |
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| 18:12.43 | sandman13 | vger_1: here like this: http://paste.debian.net/138076/ |
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| 18:13.11 | jaggzt | I'm remounting /tmp but it's in use by mysql, which is ran by akonadiserver which is ran by akonadi_control |
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| 18:14.46 | vger_1 | sandman13: i made the changes to sources.list and ran aptitude |
| 18:14.57 | vger_1 | nothing changed |
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| 18:15.37 | Devastator | vger_1 did you run aptitude update? |
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| 18:17.04 | vger_1 | Devastator: nope. doing that now. |
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| 18:17.30 | vger_1 | ok. i got 132 updates |
| 18:18.05 | Devastator | vger_1 now type aptitude -t wheezy-backports install firmware-iwlwifi firmware-realtek |
| 18:18.11 | Devastator | see if it install those 2 |
| 18:18.16 | Devastator | opss these 2 |
| 18:19.16 | vger_1 | Devastator: i did the install and got 132 updates |
| 18:19.49 | Devastator | vger_1 pastebin dpkg -l firmware-iwlwifi again please |
| 18:20.03 | CryptoSiD | anyone?:) little question, is it safe to clone an hdd to an ssd, i installed debian on an hdd and i plan to clone the partition to an ssd, if its safe at least, or maybe debian tweak some stuff for an ssd at installation so i better reinstall? |
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| 18:21.39 | vger_1 | Devastator: http://paste.debian.net/138077 |
| 18:22.08 | Devastator | vger_1 great, now reboot and it should work |
| 18:22.27 | vger_1 | ok. here goes. |
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| 18:22.32 | vger_1 | brb |
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| 18:27.19 | vger_1 | abrotman, sandman13, Devastator... you are all awesome! |
| 18:27.29 | vger_1 | I'm wireless! |
| 18:27.46 | vger_1 | Thank you so much! |
| 18:28.00 | Devastator | thank just abrotman, I just repeated his instructions :) |
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| 19:05.03 | abator | can someone please help me on x11vnc ? |
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| 19:08.23 | abator | anybody there to help me with x11vnc |
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| 19:08.48 | abrotman | ask a real questoin |
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| 19:09.28 | guest83924 | hi |
| 19:09.33 | petn-randall | !tell abator -about ask |
| 19:10.58 | abator | i use x11vnc on debian and client is tablet, and when i zoom in on tablet i want the mouse pointer remain in view area, how to keep mouse from going out of view area on tablet when screen is zoomed in? |
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| 19:11.46 | guest83924 | debian ask me for password when i try to open my windows partition - somone know how to remove the password rquest? |
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| 19:15.00 | centrx | guest83924, Maybe it's an encrypted partition? |
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| 19:20.01 | abator | hopefully i will get answer of my question tomorrow |
| 19:20.09 | abator | tc |
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| 19:28.12 | Santa_Aleena | Happy holidays #debian! |
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| 19:35.29 | ROG3R | How do I test my SSD speed for read/write? |
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| 19:38.08 | abrotman | srged: apt-cache search disk benchmark ? |
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| 19:40.56 | srged | abrotman: http://paste.debian.net/138084/ which one to pick ? |
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| 19:45.26 | centrx | srged, probably dbench or stress |
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| 19:46.40 | abrotman | bonnie++ is widely used |
| 19:46.46 | srged | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:47.02 | abrotman | judd: info bonnie++ |
| 19:47.03 | judd | An error has occurred and has been logged. Please contact this bot's administrator for more information. |
| 19:47.07 | abrotman | doh! |
| 19:47.13 | abrotman | dpkg: info bonnie++ |
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| 19:47.35 | abrotman | looks at themill_ |
| 19:48.15 | dpkg | bonnie++: (Hard drive benchmark suite), section utils, is optional. Version: 1.97.1 (sid), Packaged size: 70 kB, Installed size: 176 kB |
| 19:50.44 | srged | http://paste.debian.net/138085/ <<< is this ok for an SSD, or i need to upgrade firmware ? |
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| 20:07.30 | mohsen-rashidi | Hello guys. i am encountered with a strange problem here: when i run su and enter my password, the output says the authentication failed or something like, but everything is ok with sudo -i and same password! what is this?! could anybody please guide me? |
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| 20:08.01 | petn-randall | mohsen-rashidi: For sudo you use your current user's password. su uses root's password. |
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| 20:09.38 | mohsen-rashidi | petn-randall, now how can i change root password? |
| 20:11.02 | CryptoSiD | Hi and merry christmas! little question, is it safe to clone an hdd to an ssd, i installed debian on an hdd and i plan to clone the partition to an ssd, if its safe at least, or maybe debian tweak some stuff for an ssd at installation so i better reinstall? |
| 20:11.18 | CryptoSiD | the partitions* |
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| 20:12.39 | SnowCrash | CryptoSiD, I don't see why you'd have an issue as SSD's just work just fine out of the box like hard drives do but typically I'd just do a fresh install because that's what I prefer. |
| 20:12.48 | SnowCrash | Do you have any specific concerns? |
| 20:14.11 | CryptoSiD | well maybe debian do some stuff differently at install with an ssd |
| 20:14.12 | CryptoSiD | no idea |
| 20:14.15 | CryptoSiD | just wondering:) |
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| 20:15.28 | SnowCrash | Nothing I can think of offhand. You should be okay! I suppose just watch for grub and make sure I knows to boot from your new partition, the only thing you may have to change by hand is fstab but it might get resolved automatically when Debian tries to boot |
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| 20:15.44 | SnowCrash | I'm not saying you'll have this issue but if you do that would be the place to look |
| 20:16.49 | CryptoSiD | well if i have this issue I'll reinstall, it take some mins:) |
| 20:16.54 | CryptoSiD | so lazy:D |
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| 20:17.08 | SnowCrash | That would be worst case is just reinstall and it will work fine. I've not had any distro give me trouble with my SSD yet. |
| 20:17.16 | SnowCrash | Good luck :) |
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| 20:18.03 | CryptoSiD | thanks |
| 20:18.29 | jelly-home | CryptoSiD: it's safe. you could make sure partitions are 1MiB-aligned if you installed before debian 7. |
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| 20:54.00 | ROG3R | I tried to put debian on an usb using dd. got no errors, however the usb doesnt boot up. sudo dd if=debian-live-7.7.0-i386-lxde-desktop.iso of=/dev/sdb bs=4M; sync |
| 20:54.29 | ROG3R | yes its set in bios to boot from usb first |
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| 20:55.08 | err404 | hello again ROG3R |
| 20:55.13 | doublehp | ROG3R: ISOs usually don't fit USB, unless some special versions |
| 20:55.34 | abrotman | uhm, yes they do |
| 20:56.16 | doublehp | ROG3R: because CD and USB boot sequence are ... usually very different (BIOS specific stuff). Some people could make compatible boot zones, but they are rarely used |
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| 20:56.41 | doublehp | => really make sure your ISO is fine for USB |
| 20:56.46 | abrotman | doublehp: it is |
| 20:57.44 | err404 | since long time, debian iso can be "burned" on cd or usb key, and boot well |
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| 20:58.52 | ROG3R | is tryng to dowanlod again via torrent and will report back |
| 20:59.23 | err404 | ROG3R, I don't see anything wrong in your command line |
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| 21:02.49 | ompaul | !md5sum |
| 21:02.51 | dpkg | d41d8cd98f00b204e9800998ecf8427e |
| 21:02.54 | ROG3R | I need the iso ready for install in case i mess up, bcz i will run a firmware update for my samsung ssd |
| 21:03.25 | sonion | abrotman: since you seem to be disputing doublehp - how about saying what should be done to be able to use the iso with the usb sd |
| 21:03.40 | ROG3R | for 7 months i am using it and only now realized its slow. i tested and reads 50mb /sec... when its supposed to read 500mb / sec :/ |
| 21:06.05 | sonion | abrotman: you are just a fucking asshole blowhard |
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| 21:09.12 | abrotman | ah, that fellow again |
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| 21:09.29 | xnrand | How do I clone an installation (installing all packages that are installed on box A on box B)? |
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| 21:10.48 | abrotman | dpkg: tell xnrand about aptitude clone |
| 21:11.19 | oniichaNj | what's the recommended way to get emacs 24 on stable |
| 21:11.27 | abrotman | judd: versions emacs |
| 21:11.28 | judd | Package: emacs on i386 -- squeeze-security: 23.2+1-7+squeeze1; squeeze: 23.2+1-7+squeeze1; wheezy: 45.0; sid: 46.1; jessie: 46.1 |
| 21:11.28 | abrotman | judd: versions emacs24 |
| 21:11.29 | judd | Package: emacs24 on i386 -- wheezy-backports: 24.3+1-4~bpo70+1; jessie: 24.4+1-4.1; sid: 24.4+1-4.1 |
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| 21:11.36 | abrotman | dpkg: tell oniichaNj about wheezy backports |
| 21:11.50 | oniichaNj | thanks |
| 21:12.17 | xnrand | abrotman: aah thanks |
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| 21:13.44 | SpeakerToMeat | Can I substitute a real package with a dummy one? maybe one revision up in number? and will all files from the real package be deleted? |
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| 21:14.30 | abrotman | dpkg: tell SpeakerToMeat about equivs |
| 21:15.18 | SpeakerToMeat | Yes. but I can bounce off a real installed package with an equivs created one? |
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| 21:25.20 | _2_Anna | hey:D |
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| 21:29.35 | SpeakerToMeat | Odd. equivs-build would build my dummy package for amd64 architecture, but it says it builds the package for i386 architecture but it does not |
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| 22:14.33 | jasonwc | I tried to use raider (http://raider.sourceforge.net/) to convert my single OS disk to a RAID1 setup. I tested this previously in a VM using a stock Debian 7.7 install and it worked perfeclty. However, when I tried it on my production server, it stalled at update-initramfs -u and I noticed it didn't show a Grub version. I thought it might have something to do with ZFS as I'm using ZFS on the server and that uses a custom veri |
| 22:14.34 | jasonwc | son of Grub with ZFS hooks. However, upon checking installed packages, it appears I didn't have grub or grub-pc installed. I installed the latter, and now it works. Previously, when I booted, I saw a Grub splash screen. What was I using if not grub-pc? |
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| 22:26.35 | Inkodiktus | hi |
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| 22:43.50 | Raydiation | is there something like ppa's for debian? especially the ppa tools like for adding a repo |
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| 22:44.29 | abrotman | not really |
| 22:44.30 | rm-rf | Raydiation: like mini-dinstall you mean? |
| 22:44.42 | abrotman | There are unofficial repos, but you manage them with an editor and /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 22:46.00 | Raydiation | i wish there was something similar for debian |
| 22:46.18 | Raydiation | something like launchpad |
| 22:46.21 | Miesco | Hi, I have my internal laptop HDD on the right, and my usb SSD hard drive on the left: http://i.imgur.com/KIksncz.png. When I boot from my USB hard drive it seems to show a windows logo (doesn't boot though). I thought I did not copy any windows partitions. Did I? |
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| 22:49.33 | rm-rf | Can't launchpad be used with Debian, too? |
| 22:49.37 | rm-rf | By adjusting some paths? |
| 22:50.40 | Raydiation | i think so, its foss right? |
| 22:50.53 | Raydiation | or maybe rather go for open suse build service? |
| 22:51.06 | Raydiation | i only know that it exists, havent looked into it yet |
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| 22:55.19 | r3n1c0n | hi |
| 22:55.54 | r3n1c0n | can some one tell me why i have port 25 open for some reason (programming using port 25?). I can only see saying smtp but i dont know what program is using it O_o |
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| 22:56.51 | abrotman | r3n1c0n: are you sure you do? if you use netstat, what does it show? |
| 22:57.04 | rm-rf | Raydiation: suse build service wouldn't host it or offer other repo-like features though |
| 22:57.12 | rm-rf | I guess this would lead to a cost-dependent solution. |
| 22:57.32 | r3n1c0n | if i use nmap localhost and or nmap (from other machine) i get same output |
| 22:57.51 | r3n1c0n | from other machine to machine2 |
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| 22:58.34 | abrotman | r3n1c0n: fuser -n tcp 25 |
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| 22:59.56 | r3n1c0n | then i get PID? |
| 23:00.21 | abrotman | yes |
| 23:00.36 | abrotman | r3n1c0n: you can use ps aux or ps -ef and grep for that PID |
| 23:00.43 | r3n1c0n | hm no activity on that pid |
| 23:00.56 | abrotman | or try 'netstat -plunt' |
| 23:01.57 | r3n1c0n | exim4 O_o? |
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| 23:02.25 | r3n1c0n | internet mailer right |
| 23:02.48 | abrotman | exim4 sounds right .. what's the problem? |
| 23:02.50 | r3n1c0n | removing |
| 23:02.59 | abrotman | you don't want to do that |
| 23:03.15 | r3n1c0n | why not? |
| 23:03.25 | abrotman | because the system uses email to alert you about certain things |
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| 23:03.37 | abrotman | if you don't want it listening on port 25, configure it correctly .. |
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| 23:04.08 | abrotman | !why an mta |
| 23:04.09 | dpkg | An MTA should be on most Unix(ish) systems to provide a way for various services to deliver asynchronous system or error messages. This includes things like cron and at (to give you the output of jobs) and various daemons (e.g. the init script of MySQL). The MTA does not have to listen to network ports so spam and security issues are largely irrelevant. See also <nullmailer>. |
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| 23:05.41 | Raydiation | rm-rf: i see, thanks |
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| 23:11.44 | r3n1c0n | thx for the help abrotman |
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| 23:16.19 | Lubert | what service handles laptop power management in wheezy? |
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| 23:25.28 | TunaLobster | How would I wipe a drive from a live CD? |
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| 23:25.52 | nkuttler | TunaLobster: dd with if=/dev/urandom ? |
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| 23:27.22 | TunaLobster | Thanks! Wanted to make sure. |
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| 23:28.50 | rm-rf | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:30.09 | centrx | rm-rf, Are you sure you don't have a netcat package installed? |
| 23:30.15 | rm-rf | no |
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| 23:30.29 | rm-rf | Package 'netcat' is not installed, so not removed |
| 23:30.36 | rm-rf | which nc: /bin/nc |
| 23:30.51 | centrx | dpkg -S bin/nc |
| 23:30.51 | dpkg | Package: bin/nc: Status: install ok installed |
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| 23:31.18 | centrx | "netcat" is a metapackage, "netcat-traditional" is the actual netcat package (or netcat-openbsd, etc.) |
| 23:33.54 | abrotman | TunaLobster: /dev/zero would be much faster |
| 23:34.59 | TunaLobster | That's what I got from docs. Haven't done it from a live boot disk before. |
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| 23:46.30 | a1b2c3 | which nc: /bin/nc |
| 23:46.32 | a1b2c3 | anyone? |
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| 23:52.40 | abrotman | a1b2c3: anyone what? |
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| 23:54.31 | a1b2c3 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:54.39 | a1b2c3 | From where does it come? Is it some essential system tool? |
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| 23:55.58 | abrotman | a1b2c3: dpkg -S bin/nc |
| 23:56.03 | doublehp_ | how do i get linux-firmware-nonfree ? |
| 23:56.19 | abrotman | dpkg: tell doublehp_ about non-free |
| 23:56.55 | abrotman | a1b2c3: ls -l /etc/alternatives/nc |
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