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| 00:32.07 | rgr | Gollum_: yes it is. Since they are part of Debian. |
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| 00:39.31 | dolcefollia | hello! :) |
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| 00:39.52 | dolcefollia | I need help :P with grub |
| 00:39.55 | dolcefollia | Who can help me? |
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| 00:40.49 | dvs | dolcefollia: We can't help you if you dont state the exact problem. |
| 00:41.02 | dolcefollia | hello dvs |
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| 00:41.45 | dolcefollia | dvs: first thx! :) |
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| 00:42.03 | dolcefollia | I setup on my notebook |
| 00:42.18 | dolcefollia | Debian :) but i have 2 OS: win 8 and debian |
| 00:42.27 | dolcefollia | Win8 i use in Office for work |
| 00:42.43 | dolcefollia | And Debian for make some experiments |
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| 00:43.13 | dolcefollia | but when I restart PC i have in Grub List |
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| 00:43.25 | dolcefollia | Only Debian and nothing for Win |
| 00:43.41 | baris | a |
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| 00:46.49 | rgr | you need to run update grub again. |
| 00:46.53 | rgr | (probably) |
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| 00:47.40 | dolcefollia | rgr: in Konsole? |
| 00:47.55 | xreal | Is there a aptitude-bot in this channel ? |
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| 00:49.04 | Brigo | xreal, not but there is a dpkg bot and a judd bot. |
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| 00:49.31 | xreal | Brigo: actually, I want to run this: aptitude search ~pstandard ~prequired ~pimportant -F%p |
| 00:50.13 | Gollum_ | dolcefollia, have you tried to use update-grub2 ? ( if you are using grub version 2) |
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| 00:51.18 | dolcefollia | Gollum_: http://pastebin.com/vPJvKJV6 |
| 00:51.31 | dolcefollia | I got grub only |
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| 00:51.51 | dolcefollia | and this is my fdisk: http://pastebin.com/UVmJMKWu |
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| 00:52.26 | pfred1 | what does fdisk have to do with grub? |
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| 00:53.05 | Gollum_ | dolcefollia, win 8 or 8.1 ? |
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| 00:53.14 | dolcefollia | Gollum_: Win 8 |
| 00:53.45 | pfred1 | I can't believe when I rebooted grub found my old install on my other HDD |
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| 00:57.13 | rgr | dolcefollia: just run "sudo update-grub" |
| 00:57.22 | rgr | It might well redetect windows. |
| 00:57.43 | Gollum_ | dolcefollia, if it's not recognizing your win8, you'll have to add it in /etc/grub.d/40_custom |
| 00:58.05 | raboof | I think http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/collab-maint/nginx.git/commit/?id=74531a5070ac96a5e3c75bec2a19871c65e07446 just removed my (modified) /usr/share/nginx/www/index.html and replaced it by a (default/original) /usr/share/nginx/html/index.html |
| 00:58.17 | raboof | before I file a bug report, can anyone check I'm not talking nonsense here? |
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| 01:07.21 | dolcefollia | Gollum |
| 01:07.24 | dolcefollia | are u sure? |
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| 01:10.30 | rryoumaa | why would a non-destructive read-write badblocks test be unsafe to interrupt? |
| 01:11.48 | Gollum_ | dolcefollia, Yes I am |
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| 01:13.00 | Gollum_ | dolcefollia, I've seen some issues dual booting with win 8 |
| 01:13.14 | dolcefollia | Gollum_: ok :) |
| 01:13.35 | dolcefollia | More issues is for Boot UEFI or similar |
| 01:14.03 | Gollum_ | dolcefollia, yes and win8 has the tendency to overwrite MBR |
| 01:14.06 | dolcefollia | Gollum_: can you help me to insert "win 8" in grub.d conf? |
| 01:14.49 | Gollum_ | dolcefollia, of course, I would be happy to help |
| 01:15.07 | dolcefollia | Gollum_: thx! |
| 01:15.25 | dolcefollia | @pandora:/etc/grub.d$ cat 40_custom |
| 01:15.27 | dolcefollia | #!/bin/sh |
| 01:15.28 | dolcefollia | exec tail -n +3 $0 |
| 01:15.33 | dolcefollia | this is the info |
| 01:16.16 | Gollum_ | dolcefollia, call me in private chat |
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| 01:38.37 | sand3r | hi |
| 01:38.46 | sand3r | are debian 7 using selinux by default? |
| 01:39.52 | rudi_s | sand3r: No. |
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| 01:41.38 | gonyere | any ideas why debian testing hangs on a new thinkpad t540p during 'install base system'? ubuntu installs fine... |
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| 01:43.40 | babilen | gonyere: check tty4 |
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| 01:45.08 | gonyere | how? |
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| 02:06.35 | linuxuz3r | what is the password for wheezy |
| 02:08.22 | dvs | linuxuz3r: The one you gave it during the install |
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| 03:04.41 | codepython777 | when i boot my machine in text mode, aplay -l lists a output device. Once i startx, aplay -l says no playback device found. Any ideas how to fix this? |
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| 03:14.14 | V13 | Hi. Can someone test something in iceweasel? I'm using 31.2.0esr-3 from testing, but I think that any version would do for starters. |
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| 03:18.06 | edjix | okaaay...test what, exactly? iceweasel is just a firefox derivative |
| 03:18.18 | V13 | yeah.. I'm aware of that.. |
| 03:18.28 | V13 | ... so.. Can you open google and search for (e.g.) "asdf" ? |
| 03:18.53 | V13 | Normally the results page will be using https.. Is that correct ? |
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| 03:19.48 | edjix | supposed to, by new default |
| 03:19.49 | V13 | (that's not the test yet) |
| 03:20.06 | V13 | right. can you please go there so you can do the test ? |
| 03:20.26 | V13 | Pick a result. Lets say the "Urban Dictionary: asdf" one. |
| 03:20.40 | V13 | Right click on it and select copy link location |
| 03:20.53 | V13 | then paste that somewhere. Is it using http or is it https? |
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| 03:21.09 | V13 | the link you copied, which is also a google link. |
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| 03:22.53 | edjix | lemme look |
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| 03:23.31 | edjix | https://www.google.com/search?q=ashd&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 |
| 03:23.43 | edjix | using https |
| 03:23.53 | V13 | ok... what about the next step ? |
| 03:24.19 | V13 | we would be more in sync if you searched for "asdf" |
| 03:25.43 | edjix | that was the entire atep, |
| 03:25.50 | V13 | it wasn't |
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| 03:25.56 | V13 | <V13> Pick a result. Lets say the "Urban Dictionary: asdf" one. |
| 03:26.03 | V13 | <V13> Right click on it and select copy link location |
| 03:26.08 | V13 | <V13> then paste that somewhere. Is it using http or is it https? |
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| 03:28.31 | V13 | there's an xkcd for this... |
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| 03:29.12 | V13 | I'm something like this atm... http://xkcd.com/979/ |
| 03:29.32 | V13 | with "edjix" instead of "denvercoder9" |
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| 06:24.46 | sleenk | anyone here have much experience upgrading Phoenix/Award BIOS? |
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| 06:51.23 | celexi | if upgrading the bios doesn't fix anything you need |
| 06:51.25 | celexi | don't do it |
| 06:51.35 | celexi | if it fails |
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| 07:15.07 | Kobra_ | how can i prevent `apt-get source ...` from applying patches? |
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| 07:29.22 | yourbeau | is Debian 8 out ? |
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| 07:32.32 | git_ | Not yet. |
| 07:34.45 | git_ | Nussbaom hope they can release Jessie before FOSDEM. |
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| 07:37.55 | electroglue | hey guys for some reason wireless-tools(iwconfig) doesn't work with my adapter on my system but the iw command does...any idea why? |
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| 07:42.21 | git_ | Sorry, don't know the answer to that. But if you tell what adapter you have, maby someone will answer. |
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| 07:52.44 | yourbeau | git_, I want Debian |
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| 08:00.42 | ArtVandalae | Kobra_, try: --download-only (see man apt-get) |
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| 08:01.13 | git_ | You can allways download 7.7, or wait antill 10 January, when 7.8 will be released. |
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| 08:01.18 | Kobra_ | ArtVandalae: that doesn't unpack it though |
| 08:01.33 | ArtVandalae | Kobra_, so then you can unpack it manually/yourself ? |
| 08:02.16 | Kobra_ | ArtVandalae: apt doesn't do anything special after unpacking then? |
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| 08:02.32 | ArtVandalae | Kobra_, what are you trying to do? |
| 08:02.55 | Kobra_ | i want to remove a specific patch, then rebuild the package |
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| 08:04.16 | ArtVandalae | ah okay. Well I think a rebuild is best in that case. Have you looked at this? https://wiki.debian.org/BuildingAPackage |
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| 08:04.49 | ArtVandalae | This guide is ~10 years old, but it might still work: https://www.debian-administration.org/article/20/Rebuilding_Debian_packages |
| 08:04.55 | Kobra_ | yeah, i've see that |
| 08:05.11 | ArtVandalae | Kobra_, which package is it? I'll try to do it on my end |
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| 08:05.29 | Kobra_ | iceweasle, i wanted to remove the branding (allthough not for me) |
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| 08:06.12 | ArtVandalae | Remove the branding to make it Firefox? Or apply some other branding for it? Because if you want upstream firefox, there's a Mozilla Debian team that provide repos |
| 08:06.22 | ArtVandalae | http://mozilla.debian.net/ |
| 08:06.32 | Kobra_ | ArtVandalae: they do? awesome, ty |
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| 08:06.46 | ArtVandalae | ... I must be going crazy. I thought that provided FF releases... |
| 08:07.19 | Kobra_ | it is? |
| 08:07.29 | Kobra_ | i see iceweasel there, or is that still branded? |
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| 08:07.41 | ArtVandalae | that's still branded. I'm looking now |
| 08:08.03 | Kobra_ | he's using Mint's repos at the moment to get firefox; i sent him FrankinDebian |
| 08:08.21 | Kobra_ | https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian |
| 08:08.27 | ArtVandalae | :) I definitely recommend against that |
| 08:08.45 | Kobra_ | he says it works, but im betting that not for long |
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| 08:11.30 | ArtVandalae | Sorry, cannot find it. I honestly thought Mozilla Debian team provided FF packages. It looks like they do not |
| 08:11.42 | yourbeau | ok |
| 08:11.58 | Kobra_ | ah, thanks anyway, i guess he'll learn his leasson once he has frankenbian |
| 08:12.06 | ArtVandalae | :) |
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| 08:20.00 | mo1991reg | electroglue my initial thoughts would be that you do not have the proper drivers installed for y our wifi card. |
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| 08:21.49 | mo1991reg | Who doesn't love FrankenDebian ?? :) |
| 08:22.02 | Kobra_ | mo1991reg: :P |
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| 08:38.26 | mo1991reg | in fairness I've runn xfce 10 from siduction on my wheezy machine since wheezy came out, but I carefully backported anything that required additional dependencies. Backports are your friend says someone who has enjoyed frankendebian before. |
| 08:39.05 | mo1991reg | 4.10 xfce :) |
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| 09:18.12 | yourbeau | I have i5-3317U with nvidia Geforce GT 635m graphics ASUS Laptop would it work well with Stable out of the box ? |
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| 09:24.18 | Valko | yourbeau: I see no reason why it shouldn't |
| 09:25.20 | yourbeau | ok |
| 09:25.35 | yourbeau | Valko, when is 8 coming out ? any idea ? |
| 09:26.38 | Valko | Dunno, probably the next four months. |
| 09:26.55 | Valko | Or two. |
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| 09:29.28 | smartass | hi, my screen suddenly went completely gray ... I can start a new xsession on a different vt, that works fine, but I'd like to recover |
| 09:30.30 | smartass | I think the problem is this line in .xsession-errors: spectrwm: search: read error: Interrupted system call |
| 09:31.02 | smartass | the screen remains grey, but I can interact with windows, it's just the rendering that is wrong |
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| 09:31.49 | smartass | I tried restarting the WM which works, but the screen remains grey |
| 09:33.01 | smartass | I suspect it might have something to do with java |
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| 09:34.23 | smartass | the spectrwm (my WM) process has a lot of IO_CANCEL in htop |
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| 09:35.40 | redstonecraftpl | hi |
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| 10:14.23 | lmaowaffle | hi guys. I've been reading up on the alternatives system, but could not find an entry for x-editor.. does it even exist? I'd like to have it reference vim-gtk while in X. 'editor' is set to vim-basic already |
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| 10:20.02 | smartass | anybody know anything similar to xmove or guievict that works these days? |
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| 10:22.28 | smartass | lmaowaffle: you could create your own using --install |
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| 10:24.08 | phy1729 | Why not just use vim-gtk for editor? |
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| 10:29.34 | lmaowaffle | t |
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| 10:43.06 | someHuman | What are ways that will enable me to improve my graphics? |
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| 10:43.21 | someHuman | My fonts's appearance sucks. |
| 10:43.29 | someHuman | Hopefully I'm not offending anyone. |
| 10:43.44 | redstonecraftpl | reinstall system? :D |
| 10:43.47 | someHuman | It looks sharp or old or some sort, it isn't that appealing. |
| 10:44.02 | someHuman | redstonecraftpl: Trust me, I've reinstalled Debian a lot already ;) |
| 10:44.06 | someHuman | And I end up with the same thing. |
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| 10:44.30 | someHuman | I think I'm talking about 3d acceleration here. |
| 10:44.53 | redstonecraftpl | id |
| 10:44.54 | redstonecraftpl | k |
| 10:45.02 | someHuman | But my graphics card ain't Free Software compatible either, tried it with Trisquel 7 days ago. |
| 10:45.05 | someHuman | :( |
| 10:45.11 | redstonecraftpl | what about other monitor? |
| 10:47.14 | redstonecraftpl | screen* |
| 10:47.25 | redstonecraftpl | Hmm |
| 10:47.32 | redstonecraftpl | what model of graphic you have? |
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| 10:50.12 | someHuman | redstonecraftpl: Hold in |
| 10:50.14 | someHuman | on* |
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| 10:53.29 | someHuman | redstonecraftpl: cpuid - Intel and AMD x86 CPUID display program |
| 10:53.44 | someHuman | redstonecraftpl: Ah crap, wrong. |
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| 11:08.53 | someHuman | What command can I use to list groups that are available in my system? |
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| 11:09.11 | someHuman | Also, what command can I use to check if <group> exists? |
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| 11:21.04 | dolcefollia | who know nagios3? : |
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| 11:35.28 | mirda | hi, please where can i download packages for iceweasel 17 for i386 and amd64? |
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| 11:37.05 | Kobra_ | mirda: http://snapshot.debian.org/package/iceweasel/17.0.10esr-1~deb7u1/ |
| 11:37.16 | mirda | thank you |
| 11:37.20 | Kobra_ | np |
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| 11:42.20 | musca | omg, why could anybody want iw17? (just curious, no offence intended) |
| 11:42.48 | Kobra_ | see how websites work in old versions? |
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| 11:43.44 | musca | hmm, i see, and 17 was an ESR version |
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| 11:43.56 | Kobra_ | ESR? |
| 11:44.07 | musca | Extended Support Release |
| 11:44.16 | Kobra_ | ah |
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| 11:48.43 | redstonecraftpl | Hi |
| 11:48.47 | redstonecraftpl | i need kiso pack |
| 11:48.49 | redstonecraftpl | age |
| 11:48.59 | redstonecraftpl | but i cant find it in repos |
| 11:49.07 | redstonecraftpl | anyone could helP? |
| 11:49.34 | L0aD1nG | tried apt-cache search "kiso" ? |
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| 11:52.20 | osram | `kiso' doesn't appear to be packaged for debian |
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| 11:52.34 | osram | I assume you mean http://kiso.sourceforge.net/index.php which doesn't look to be maintained |
| 11:52.48 | osram | No update since 2005... |
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| 11:54.34 | dolcefollia | Hello! :) |
| 11:54.34 | osram | In short, use k3b instead. |
| 11:54.37 | dolcefollia | [sudo] password for claudio: |
| 11:54.38 | dolcefollia | No protocol specified |
| 11:54.40 | dolcefollia | kwrite: cannot connect to X server :0 |
| 11:54.41 | dolcefollia | Idea of this error? |
| 11:55.00 | dolcefollia | this is command: @pandora:~$ sudo kwrite /etc/nagios3/commands.cfg |
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| 11:56.13 | osram | dolcefollia: do you have an xserver running? |
| 11:57.01 | dolcefollia | osram: now i'm on KDE |
| 11:57.23 | dolcefollia | osram: i think yes... (i think) |
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| 11:58.04 | osram | dolcefollia: root isn't allowed to connect to your session. Use a terminal editor instead (vim/nano). |
| 11:59.48 | someHuman | What is the native window placement shell extension? |
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| 12:01.35 | dolcefollia | osram: ok, done. |
| 12:01.47 | osram | Sweet. |
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| 12:10.06 | redstonecraftpl | Yeah, i am using k3b, but this cannot unpack iso for me.. |
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| 12:10.16 | redstonecraftpl | i want to manipulate psx isos |
| 12:10.16 | codywins | The safety record of the similar plasma-ion oxidizer technology (Sharp Plasmacluster has sold over 25 million units without any personal injury claim) suggests that photocats pose no major health hazards, but I'd still avoid very close contact with PCO, like installation near the bed. |
| 12:10.21 | codywins | what's the potential danger of pco? |
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| 12:11.27 | redstonecraftpl | so, any ISO unpacker for linux? |
| 12:11.45 | imaami | mount |
| 12:12.15 | osram | redstonecraftpl: you could try isomaster |
| 12:12.18 | Bremsstrahlung | (Hey, imaami!) |
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| 12:19.43 | musca | codywins: not exactly a debian question, but i would avoid it, too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anatoli_Bugorski |
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| 12:20.37 | codywins | musca, pco as in pco air purifiers. |
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| 12:20.43 | codywins | musca, see: |
| 12:20.44 | musca | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_plasma_%28physics%29_articles |
| 12:20.47 | codywins | The safety record of the similar plasma-ion oxidizer technology (Sharp Plasmacluster has sold over 25 million units without any personal injury claim) suggests that photocats pose no major health hazards, but I'd still avoid very close contact with PCO, like installation near the bed. |
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| 12:24.59 | musca | codywins: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_purifier#Consumer_concerns or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_purifier#Potential_ozone_hazards -- and now it is time to switch to #debian-offtopic |
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| 12:25.28 | redstonecraftpl | I have trouble with isomaster |
| 12:25.30 | redstonecraftpl | First volume descriptor type not primary like ISO9660 requires' |
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| 12:25.48 | redstonecraftpl | any ideAS? |
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| 12:30.28 | foormea | hi, i've got a problem with a newly set up debian7 on a future home server. http://pastebin.com/bnVuBPbh says it all, pretty much: interface is configured and up, route and DNS are "properly" set up... i can ssh into the server from a local machine on the home network, but the home server won't see the outside |
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| 12:32.36 | attah | e |
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| 12:33.11 | osram | foormea: try pinging 8.8.8.8 |
| 12:33.30 | koko_ | hello |
| 12:33.37 | osram | foormea: it'll probably work. Your resolv.conf is wrong. |
| 12:33.45 | osram | Should be nameserver 8.8.8.8 |
| 12:34.04 | foormea | osram: i'll try, ok. shouldn't resolv.conf be automatically generated anyway? |
| 12:34.12 | osram | ie. 'nameserver 8.8.8.8', not just the ip of the nameserver |
| 12:34.20 | foormea | can you ls -l /etc/resolv.conf on your side, is it a symlink to something else these days? |
| 12:34.50 | foormea | osram: spot on |
| 12:34.53 | foormea | that worked |
| 12:34.53 | osram | foormea: mine is completely static. |
| 12:34.59 | foormea | ok |
| 12:35.01 | koko_ | i am on wheezy 7.7 on hp Pavilion . I can found wifi driver please help http://pastebin.com/fY6vnjFh |
| 12:35.08 | osram | foormea: sweet. |
| 12:35.20 | foormea | on an ubuntu machine, it's like this: /etc/resolv.conf -> ../run/resolvconf/resolv.conf |
| 12:35.44 | koko_ | with rfkill list all i have nothing |
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| 12:38.19 | foormea | osram: mh..... i wonder what the point of having a dns-nameservers entry in /etc/network/interfaces if it doens't update resolv.conf ? |
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| 12:39.02 | koko_ | with lshw http://pastebin.com/2CWm4kf3 |
| 12:39.21 | osram | foormea: I don't think it's a valid option. See `man 5 interfaces' |
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| 12:40.30 | attah | probable pebkac here.. i'm trying to build some extra modules for an experimental kernel.. dpkg-source'd the source files, make {modules_prepare, M=... modules, M=... modules_install} but they install to what seems to be the wrong dir and won't insmod |
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| 12:40.40 | attah | am i going about this the wrong way? |
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| 12:43.05 | osram | foormea: there's a package called resolvconf - it may do automatic config but idk specifics. However, with your static setup it's probably overkill. |
| 12:43.41 | foormea | osram: that's what i was thinking |
| 12:43.56 | foormea | osram: but now i'm curious, so i'll try instlaling that package |
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| 12:44.27 | foormea | osram: https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration ctrl-f dns-nameservers, that's where i got that config from |
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| 12:45.42 | osram | foormea: ah right, just above the fragment it mentions resolvconf (the program). |
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| 12:46.26 | osram | foormea: https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#The_resolvconf_program |
| 12:46.35 | foormea | yeah. anyway, i've got another problem. i'm actually reinstalling that home server, did some shit on it earlier :) anyway, previously, ssh worked like a charm ( connected via wifi, ipw2200). now, it seems very buggy, with seemingly th esame config |
| 12:46.57 | foormea | osram: yep |
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| 12:48.26 | foormea | buggy, as in, every... 20 seconds, everything stops for 10seconds, then it comes back |
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| 13:13.10 | redstonecraftpl | i need portable (standalone) rar packer and unpacker in console. Any ideas? I Cant find any in google, only PeaZIP |
| 13:13.22 | redstonecraftpl | but (peazip) is gtk.. |
| 13:13.39 | foormea | redstonecraftpl: package rar should do |
| 13:13.58 | redstonecraftpl | but i cant install it |
| 13:14.02 | foormea | why not? |
| 13:14.04 | redstonecraftpl | bcause i am on openshells :D |
| 13:14.13 | redstonecraftpl | so i need STANDALONE executable |
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| 13:14.20 | foormea | okay, sorry, didn't read properly |
| 13:14.38 | redstonecraftpl | np |
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| 13:17.09 | felsenhower | are there any disadvantages in using a fixed swap file or dynamic swap space via swapspace? |
| 13:17.37 | felsenhower | I guess, swapspace should be a little slower, but is that worth it? |
| 13:17.49 | tremon | why is it slower? |
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| 13:18.27 | felsenhower | I guess, if first has to create a new swap file and stuff like that, there might be a minor speed decrease |
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| 13:20.48 | foormea | redstonecraftpl: the rar binary from the deb package seems to run fine on its own |
| 13:22.26 | musca | felsenhower: yes, swap and speed are contradictive. |
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| 13:23.25 | felsenhower | yeah, of course, but I meant in comparison to a swap partition with a fixed size |
| 13:23.40 | tremon | felsenhower: I'm not sure I follow you. swapspace is slower than a swapfile the former is a file? |
| 13:23.58 | tremon | *because the former... |
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| 13:24.46 | felsenhower | tremon if you have a swap file, then only one file gets created, right? |
| 13:25.09 | tremon | felsenhower: that depends on how many files you create. Yes, usually it's one |
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| 13:25.33 | felsenhower | but swapspace will create those dynamically |
| 13:25.39 | musca | felsenhower: using swap is 100,000 times slower than using RAM and you are worried by some some extra overhead? |
| 13:25.53 | tremon | no it won't, there are no files in a swap partition |
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| 13:26.23 | Brigo | felsenhower, http://serverfault.com/questions/25653/swap-partition-vs-file-for-performance |
| 13:26.28 | felsenhower | tremon I thought swapspace used the system partition and not a seperate one |
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| 13:26.50 | samba35 | how do i assign ip address another guest from guest has dhcp server (both as guest ) on kvm using openvswitch |
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| 13:27.03 | tremon | "system partition"? what's that? |
| 13:27.32 | felsenhower | musca That's why I said minor before :) I wanted to know if there are any other major disadvantages, because the speed will be on the same level |
| 13:27.42 | tremon | if you mean the root partition, then no, swap is not inside the root unless you create a file there |
| 13:27.45 | Kobra_ | tremon: /bin /usr and stuff i'd say |
| 13:28.00 | felsenhower | yes, exactly |
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| 13:29.04 | testdeb | hi i installed gnuplot c interface to control from my user program, it works with ubuntu, but the same library doesnt work with debian wheezy, here is the link to the module: http://ndevilla.free.fr/gnuplot/ it doesnt display any graph when i start the example from the downloads section, same worked in ubuntu |
| 13:29.08 | musca | felsenhower: in general using swap is bad, but in that bad area using swapfiles is okay. |
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| 13:29.38 | felsenhower | ok, thanks :) |
| 13:29.51 | hariom | I have added an init script. Ran the update-rc.d command to run it after reboot (ps: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9664927/) but after reboot it doesn't run. Manually it runs fine. |
| 13:29.55 | hariom | Here is my init script: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9664956/ |
| 13:29.55 | musca | felsenhower: it gives you extra flexibilty in choosing the location of your swap space. |
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| 13:31.08 | testdeb | any ideas from someone using gnuplot c interface from debian? |
| 13:31.44 | felsenhower | and on a system with 16 GB of ram, and dynamically created swap files on a SSD, what could a neat swappiness be? |
| 13:32.20 | felsenhower | sometimes I edit images or render hd videos, but I rarely really fill these 16 GB up |
| 13:32.50 | felsenhower | maybe about 75 or so? |
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| 13:33.09 | redstonecraftpl | i am lazy, how i can rename files? |
| 13:33.32 | musca | felsenhower: usually you won't need to swap at all on such a system |
| 13:34.15 | felsenhower | ok, I'll try 90 then... |
| 13:34.30 | musca | you can try disabling swap. |
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| 13:35.12 | felsenhower | well, but if the ram does fill up one time, I'll have a problem |
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| 13:36.13 | musca | felsenhower: yes. it just doesn't happen. |
| 13:36.53 | felsenhower | and if I set it to 100? that would be the same as turning it off in this situation, wouldn't it? |
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| 13:37.11 | felsenhower | just with the difference, that it won't crash my system in this very rare ocassion |
| 13:37.37 | musca | the usual reaction is: your OOM-killer kills a process to get some memory back. |
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| 13:38.54 | testdeb | can anyone also help me point some good packages like gnuplot which has a c interface for plotting in 2d/3d ? thanks |
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| 13:41.53 | musca | !oom-killer |
| 13:41.53 | dpkg | somebody said oom-killer was responsible for picking a process to kill when the computer is out of memory. It uses some heuristics to choose the process to kill: unprivileged, short-running, low-priority processes are more likely to be killed. See http://linux-mm.org/OOM_Killer for more information. |
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| 13:48.13 | musca | redstonecraftpl: (after the 15 min threshold) did you find a solution? |
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| 13:51.18 | mirda | musca: i didn't look here after download old iceweasel.. i want older firefox because version 31 in repository is very slow, resource hungry beast with ugly "australis" gui |
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| 13:52.19 | redstonecraftpl | musca: Yep, i find solution to rename files |
| 13:52.21 | redstonecraftpl | xD |
| 13:52.33 | mirda | version 17 starts quickly with hundreds tabs (loading them only when activated) and quickly exits, version 31 is slow |
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| 13:53.25 | mirda | some pages doesn't work properly in version 17, for example github.com, i am using them in chromium if i need it |
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| 13:56.03 | redstonecraftpl | what about v 18 or 19? |
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| 13:59.05 | musca | mirda: performance issue surely is a valid reason for research. But i still think an unsupported outdated browser is worse than any slow performance. |
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| 14:09.50 | darsie | I can't ssb gthumb: http://paste.debian.net/139031/ |
| 14:10.28 | imaami | the latest update to xdg-utils, 1.1.0~rc1+git20111210-7.2, caused xdg-open to not work anymore |
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| 14:11.21 | imaami | supposed to be a command injection vuln fix, but now when i try to click open links from urxvt i get "www.$sed_escaped_url.com" in the browser |
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| 14:16.28 | norinder99 | Hi, rsync --link-dest=DIR doesn't seem to hard-link snapshots (DIR is left untouched). What could be the problem? I know that something is happening as rsync complains if an invalid directory is given as link-dest. My script with full options: http://pastebin.com/F1419vRn |
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| 14:20.37 | darsie | How can I downgrade gthumb? |
| 14:20.46 | darsie | To the last sane version? |
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| 14:27.00 | redstonecraftpl | how i can compress data that is downloading? |
| 14:27.10 | redstonecraftpl | can i anyhow? :D |
| 14:27.12 | darsie | during download? |
| 14:27.20 | redstonecraftpl | yep |
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| 14:27.34 | darsie | Or after download so it's save compressed? |
| 14:27.34 | redstonecraftpl | because i have low down speed |
| 14:27.51 | redstonecraftpl | during down |
| 14:27.56 | darsie | Webbrowsers and servers can support compressed dl. |
| 14:28.24 | darsie | Get a browser that supports it and hope the server does, too. |
| 14:28.24 | evilman_home | redstonecraftpl: you should configure your web-server to support of compression and use special options in the client. |
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| 14:29.00 | redstonecraftpl | i dont have web-server.... |
| 14:29.09 | redstonecraftpl | i want to download THIS: http://23.29.122.58/997ajxXXajs13jJKPxOa/psx/Tomba%21%20%5BU%5D%20%5BSCUS-94236%5D.7z |
| 14:29.16 | darsie | The web server must do the compression. |
| 14:29.24 | darsie | That is already compressed. |
| 14:29.31 | darsie | .7z are compressed archives. |
| 14:29.41 | darsie | And 7z generally compresses well. |
| 14:30.14 | twostone | further compression wouldn't do any good here, it'd probably just bloat the file. |
| 14:30.37 | darsie | Videos, images and sound is usually compressed, too. |
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| 14:31.06 | redstonecraftpl | so rar'ing 7z 122mb file will dont help? |
| 14:31.11 | darsie | no |
| 14:31.34 | AimHere | Given that all compression algorithms have to specialise in compressing *some* kind of data whether text, music, video or pictures, then someone ought to write an algorithm that's good at compressing .7z files... |
| 14:31.35 | darsie | Unless some low/no compression option was used to make the 7z archive. |
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| 14:52.53 | darsie | There's no newer gthumb on wheezy-backports. I can't simple sid backport gthumb. I can't downgrade to squeezes gthumb. I can't compile upstream gthumb. fuck. |
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| 15:17.40 | UltimateNate | How to grant root access to a user? |
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| 15:19.21 | Olli0 | you could use *sudo* |
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| 15:33.22 | dr0p | hello, has anyone faced gnutls.c issues with emacs and marmelade-repo ? |
| 15:33.29 | dr0p | i'm using jessie |
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| 15:35.49 | CutMeOwnThroat | darsie, why not |
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| 15:38.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | marmelade-repo? |
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| 15:41.21 | dr0p | yes, marmelage-repo |
| 15:41.39 | dr0p | few people reported the same issue with gnutls |
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| 15:44.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | "2014-10-23 - marmalade-repo is now on HTTPS. The marmalade-client has been updated too and we're redirecting all HTTP to HTTPS. So if you have a client problem it's probably that. Please just upgrade the marmalade client." |
| 15:46.28 | dr0p | CutMeOwnThroat: thanks. Can be very helpful |
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| 15:50.41 | someHuman | Hi! |
| 15:50.48 | someHuman | Could you guys give me tips on power saving? |
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| 15:51.43 | someHuman | I'll be going out later, my battery is made is lithium ion and lasts 2 hours and less than or 15 mins. max. |
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| 16:00.44 | lyonsb | turn the brightness down. Less than 20%. Cope. |
| 16:01.44 | dr0p | CutMeOwnThroat: i don't think the problem is with marmalade repo itself. I think the gnutls.c has a bug. Does anyone use jessie with emacs and marmalade repo and have this error ? |
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| 16:03.08 | Territoriojoven | how do I update ffmpeg in wheezy? |
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| 16:04.45 | xreal | Ubuntu has released a special edition for running in containers, since their init-system has problems when running in there and many services aren't needed at all. Isn't something like this also needed when running a normal chroot with Debian? |
| 16:04.59 | CutMeOwnThroat | dr0p, check bugs.debian.org/<package_name> ... probably either emacs or libgnutls2X if you see some tls specific error |
| 16:05.21 | dr0p | CutMeOwnThroat: ok, thanks |
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| 16:05.54 | lyonsb | someHuman, Arch Wiki and ThinkWiki both have great articles for reducing power consumption. |
| 16:06.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | dr0p, also, for questions on things in testing, try #debian-next on irc.oftc.net - some more concrete error messages that you're getting would be helpful, though... |
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| 16:07.39 | musca | Territoriojoven: there is a replacement for ffmpeg which is named libav-tools, and there is a newer version of libav-tools in wheezy-backports: 6:10.1-1~bpo70+1; |
| 16:10.23 | Territoriojoven | well i already got them |
| 16:10.32 | Territoriojoven | "Unable to find development files for some of the required Libav libraries (libavutil >= 52.48.101 libavcodec >= 55.34.1 libavformat >= 55.12.0 libswscale >= 2.1.2). Aborting." |
| 16:10.42 | Territoriojoven | i mean libav-tools. |
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| 16:11.02 | Territoriojoven | maybe someone else already compiled mpv for wheezy ? :D |
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| 16:34.27 | gribouille | hi |
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| 16:35.26 | gribouille | my hard disk has been working for hours, but no program seems to use it. what can I do? |
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| 16:43.13 | wonderworld | hi, i am trying to disable sound completely on my machine to add errorhandling to an app i am developing. i blacklisted all the sound modules and stopped pulseaudio but i still get "dummy sound output" from somewhere. any idea how to disable this? |
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| 17:02.50 | iwkse | hi, do you know if there's a way to query the mouse cursor type from cli? |
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| 17:04.27 | digdilem | wish I could understand gribouille's question |
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| 17:07.39 | shiin | iwkse: you mean whether its a pointer or an hourglass or something? |
| 17:07.46 | iwkse | shiin: yeah |
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| 17:08.21 | iwkse | I've been checking xdotool but I cannot find such option |
| 17:09.38 | shiin | iwkse: what window manager? |
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| 17:10.41 | iwkse | shiin: openbox, but I guess it relies on X server |
| 17:12.30 | shiin | Maybe the x server handles all the cursor things, maybe the window manager ontop of that has some extra event handling service. What are you trying to achieve anyway? |
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| 17:15.52 | iwkse | shiin: it's a kind of automation with xdotool, i need to check if the mouse cursor is the "hand" to perform some operation |
| 17:16.09 | iwkse | i could achieve in some other ways but this is the fastest and simplest, if i find the way |
| 17:16.10 | iwkse | :-) |
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| 17:21.15 | shiin | I see. |
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| 17:22.12 | shiin | Well my google research brings up xdotool for positioning too, but I can't find anything clear about the cursor type. |
| 17:22.26 | iwkse | yes |
| 17:22.37 | iwkse | with xdotool is possible to get the coordinates |
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| 17:25.21 | Quatroking | is it possible to run dropbox on a terminal-only system? |
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| 17:28.52 | Territoriojoven | Quatroking, no but you can run mega from terminal |
| 17:28.56 | Territoriojoven | mega > dropbox |
| 17:29.24 | Quatroking | i already run dropbox on all my systems and I'm not interested in switching over |
| 17:29.40 | Territoriojoven | good luck with that backdoor |
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| 17:35.00 | bigterd | offtopic, but i have quick openoffice calc question, anyone up for me? |
| 17:35.12 | shay_shay | Territoriojoven how? |
| 17:35.20 | bigterd | i'm waiting for response from openoffice.org channel |
| 17:35.24 | shay_shay | mega with terminal |
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| 17:36.49 | Territoriojoven | https://github.com/megous/megatools |
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| 17:42.34 | shay_shay | Territoriojoven OK thanks. I suppose I should have googled for that :P |
| 17:43.09 | Thrasymachus | trading one company's cloud for another's? |
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| 17:43.59 | brainacid | hello all |
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| 18:10.28 | zeroware_ | Hello World ! I'm getting a lot of error while execute apt-get upgrade, I have dependency problems errors and dbus printing several time on terminal |
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| 18:19.03 | Brigo | Zerock, are you using wheezy? |
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| 18:19.16 | Zerock | Brigo: I am using Sid. |
| 18:19.21 | Brigo | zeroware_, are you using wheezy? |
| 18:19.28 | Brigo | Zerock, sorry, not for you :) |
| 18:19.32 | Zerock | Brigo: :P |
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| 18:19.45 | Brigo | Zerock, i know you know :D |
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| 18:20.13 | Zerock | Brigo: You might set your IRC client's tab completer to go for the one who most recently sent a message rather than alphabetically. |
| 18:20.26 | Zerock | Helps prevent those tab fails. |
| 18:20.48 | Brigo | Zerock, i am not sure if i can achieve it with my client, hexchat |
| 18:21.16 | Zerock | Brigo: As a matter of fact, that is what I use. |
| 18:22.01 | Zerock | Brigo: Settings > Preferences > Interface > Input box > Nick completion sorted |
| 18:22.14 | Zerock | Set that to Last-spoke order. |
| 18:22.19 | Brigo | Zerock, thanks i will check it :) |
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| 18:23.20 | Brigo | ok, i configured it. Now some chencks :) |
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| 18:31.16 | teraflops | Brigo: |
| 18:31.19 | teraflops | Brigo: djdj |
| 18:31.29 | teraflops | Brigo: tab me |
| 18:32.02 | Brigo | teraflops, ;) |
| 18:32.07 | teraflops | hah |
| 18:32.19 | teraflops | heh perdon estaba a dos bandas |
| 18:33.29 | teraflops | sry wrong buffer |
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| 19:13.39 | UltimateNate | I'm trying to install backports |
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| 19:13.43 | UltimateNate | but i get deb no such command |
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| 19:15.29 | someHuman | Hi! |
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| 19:15.43 | someHuman | I am curious as to what to worse crack on Debian was/is. |
| 19:15.54 | someHuman | You know, like stuff done by cracker. |
| 19:16.16 | someHuman | I have come across an article about a serious flaw in Debian a long time ago I think. |
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| 19:17.30 | musca | UltimateNate: you add a "deb"-line to your sources.list, don't execute the line in a shell |
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| 19:28.14 | UltimateNate | musca: Then what should i do? |
| 19:28.54 | musca | !bdo |
| 19:28.54 | dpkg | backports.debian.org (formerly backports.org) is an official repository of <backports> for the current stable (see <wheezy backports>) and oldstable (<squeeze backports>) distributions, prepared by Debian developers. Ask me about <backport caveat> and read http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/. See also <bdo kernel> <bdo mirrors> <bdo contents> <bdo list> <bdo bugs> <bdo xorg> <bdo NEW>. |
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| 19:31.31 | tonythomas | where can I get #debian chat history ? |
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| 19:32.21 | PryMar56 | request wheezy backport of ocaml 4+ (needed for xen) |
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| 19:33.45 | someHuman | Hi! |
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| 19:36.19 | UltimateNate | deb http://http.debian.net/debian-backports squeeze-backports(-sloppy) main |
| 19:36.21 | UltimateNate | i added that |
| 19:36.25 | UltimateNate | doesn't work |
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| 19:40.17 | PryMar56 | apt-cache policy ocaml-base-nox -t wheezy-backports -> 3.12.1 |
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| 19:43.11 | UltimateNate | So what should i do now? |
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| 19:45.10 | dvs | UltimateNate: Remove the "(-sloppy)" part |
| 19:45.14 | someHuman | How do I know the select printers hplip supports? |
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| 19:45.40 | someHuman | HP Deskjet Ink Advantage 3525 is my printer, for anyone who might already know the answer. |
| 19:45.52 | bumbar | is it possible to show when each user logged in (via ssh) last time |
| 19:46.02 | UltimateNate | got some of these |
| 19:46.04 | UltimateNate | Err http://ftp.us.debian.org wheezy-updates/main i386 Packages Bad header line [IP: 128.61.240.89 80] |
| 19:46.19 | UltimateNate | Err http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates/main i386 Packages 404 Not Found [IP: 128.61.240.73 80] |
| 19:46.20 | UltimateNate | etc |
| 19:46.30 | someHuman | UltimateNate: codepad.org |
| 19:46.42 | someHuman | UltimateNate: Paste the output there for better readability. |
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| 19:46.54 | someHuman | UltimateNate: Post it as plain text and uncheck the run code. |
| 19:47.07 | someHuman | UltimateNate: Or paste it in pastebin website. |
| 19:47.07 | UltimateNate | Or i could use my pastebin |
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| 19:47.18 | someHuman | UltimateNate: That too :) |
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| 19:48.58 | daviid | what is the oftc debian-next server again? |
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| 20:11.29 | someHuman | How do I edit the search engines when I press super key? |
| 20:11.38 | someHuman | Or the search interface? |
| 20:11.48 | someHuman | What do you call that search interface thingy anyway? |
| 20:12.17 | someHuman | Oh sorry, I'm talking about GNOME. |
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| 20:12.49 | ooze1 | Hi, I just went to install gparted on my debian server and then it started removing a bunch of things |
| 20:12.53 | ooze1 | my init scripts and stuff |
| 20:12.55 | ooze1 | now x won't start |
| 20:13.03 | ooze1 | I don't know why it did that, but I messed something up |
| 20:13.07 | ooze1 | Just did apt-get install gparted |
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| 20:18.29 | someHuman | Is it possible for me to route all of my network connectivity through Tor? |
| 20:18.48 | someHuman | Also my wireless driver/card? You know, make my Debian work like Tails? |
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| 20:19.27 | someHuman | Or be as anonymous as Tails, or at least be as much like Tails. |
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| 20:21.26 | critr | someHuman: you can set your network proxy to 127.0.0.1:9050 after you install the tor daemon. it still won't be as secure as tails, though. |
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| 20:30.22 | lintguy | Hello. |
| 20:30.42 | lintguy | I have an issue with spamassassin not wanting to die, so i can't upgrade it |
| 20:30.49 | lintguy | I get this error: |
| 20:30.59 | lintguy | spamd: could not create INET socket on 127.0.0.1:783: Address already in use |
| 20:31.22 | Brigo | lintguy, and you cannot kill it? |
| 20:31.29 | lintguy | I tried kill -9 thepids but it just goes back up directly |
| 20:31.51 | lintguy | i tried service spamassassin restart and stop but it says this |
| 20:31.58 | lintguy | Restarting SpamAssassin Mail Filter Daemon: No /usr/bin/perl found running; none killed. |
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| 20:32.05 | lintguy | The pid is in the right place as well |
| 20:32.23 | lintguy | in /var/run/spamd.pid |
| 20:32.51 | lintguy | i don't think i've ever been this clueless with debian before |
| 20:32.56 | Brigo | lintguy, sorry, i must go now :/ |
| 20:33.02 | lintguy | Oh, thanks anyway |
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| 20:35.56 | nc_jonas | hello, I'm the same user as b_jonas. I'm trying to install a debian wheezy from the netboot installer, but it doesn't find my hard disks |
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| 20:36.47 | nc_jonas | on |
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| 20:37.30 | nc_jonas | On the console I get the message ata_piix: Unknown symbol dmi_check_system_2 (err 0) and four other unknown symbol messages |
| 20:37.32 | lintguy | I solved it, it was a rouge lockfile |
| 20:37.59 | nc_jonas | I think ata_piix is the module for the disk controller on this machine, but I'm not sure whether those messages mean a problem |
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| 20:38.12 | nc_jonas | but why can't the installer find my hard disks? argh |
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| 20:38.36 | nc_jonas | do you suppose I should get a newer netboot version? |
| 20:40.18 | nc_jonas | is this the right channel to ask about problems with the installer? |
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| 20:46.29 | b_jonas | yep, my disk controller module is ata_piix it seems |
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| 20:46.40 | b_jonas | and I don't get those "symbol not found" messages on the normal system |
| 20:46.52 | b_jonas | strange |
| 20:47.03 | b_jonas | I'll try a newer netboot image, it can't hurt |
| 20:47.16 | b_jonas | I hope it's not hardware probloem |
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| 20:53.21 | kale | what are your experiences running on btrfs? is that running smooth? |
| 20:53.51 | b_jonas | downloaded new image, trying it |
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| 20:59.03 | nc_jonas | yay! |
| 20:59.24 | nc_jonas | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:59.39 | nc_jonas | it's found both hard disks now |
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| 21:00.43 | nc_jonas | I hope you can hear me |
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| 21:06.25 | nc_jonas | it's installing the base system right now |
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| 21:23.20 | critter | Hi |
| 21:23.39 | critter | I forgot to logout my desktop, how can I know if someone used it? |
| 21:24.40 | WormFood | critter, ask them if they used it. |
| 21:25.09 | critter | WormFood: thats not an option |
| 21:25.09 | OSVG | You could check your logs if they did anything that would generate a log entry, but you're not likely to find anything. |
| 21:25.10 | WormFood | timestamps in your home directory may help. "ls -ltr ~" |
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| 21:25.43 | WormFood | if they just browsed the web, with your open web browser, check your cookies, and the time stamps on them. |
| 21:25.53 | WormFood | it really depends on what you suspect they may have done |
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| 21:27.34 | critter | WormFood: those two are enough, thx! |
| 21:27.46 | WormFood | critter, what do you think someone else using your computer may have done? |
| 21:28.08 | critter | WormFood: web browsing doesnt create cookies that change timestamps? |
| 21:28.27 | WormFood | all cookies have time stamps |
| 21:28.35 | critter | WormFood: just that, privacy concerns |
| 21:28.41 | WormFood | many web sites, will set the expiration timestamp, based on when you use it. |
| 21:29.03 | WormFood | if you think maybe they used your irc client, then check your irc logs (assuming you have them turned on) |
| 21:29.17 | critter | WormFood: so with "ls -ltr ~" cookies directory should show recent activity? |
| 21:29.21 | WormFood | you really need to go, on a case-by-case basis, for software they may have used. |
| 21:29.30 | critter | no, just logged right now |
| 21:29.44 | WormFood | it shows your home directory, sorted with the newest at the bottom of the list |
| 21:29.51 | critter | (on irc, I mean) |
| 21:30.03 | WormFood | I frequently use that, for example, in my download directory, to see what the last thing I downloaded was |
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| 21:31.33 | WormFood | critter, if you think maybe they watched your porn movies, for example, there probably wouldn't be any record of that. |
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| 21:32.19 | critter | WormFood: "ls -ltr ~" shows modification but no access date? |
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| 21:33.07 | WormFood | on a related subject. The database admin at my old job, was VERY careful to make sure nobody was looking over his shoulder, when he typed in his password, to login to X11...I told him, his password didn't matter, and I could get past it. I then proceeded to tell him exactly what to type, to get past the x11 screen saver. he was shocked. ;) |
| 21:33.30 | WormFood | then I told him what to do, to make sure the trick I showed him wouldn't work :D |
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| 21:35.06 | anybroad | hi |
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| 21:35.39 | critter | x11 screensaver can by bypassed? |
| 21:35.50 | WormFood | it depends entirely on how you start it. |
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| 21:36.37 | WormFood | first question I asked him, is if he used xdm/gdm or some type of display manager, or if he typed "startx" at the command prompt. As I suspected, he types "startx". If you do it that way, yes, I can bypass it. |
| 21:37.04 | WormFood | I can't bypass the screensaver if he uses some type of display manager (xdm/gdm/etc) to login. |
| 21:37.39 | WormFood | interesting, eh? |
| 21:38.42 | critter | yes |
| 21:38.49 | WormFood | this was years ago, and this guy was old school. So I made an educated guess as to how he starts his x11 session. |
| 21:38.57 | critter | why? |
| 21:39.02 | WormFood | why what? |
| 21:39.09 | critter | do you restart X11? |
| 21:39.19 | critter | why it works with startx |
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| 21:40.01 | WormFood | because I can change to where he logged in, on the console, put startx into the background, and get a command prompt, then kill the screensaver, switch back over to the gui ;) |
| 21:40.14 | critter | hmmmmmmm okok |
| 21:40.25 | WormFood | you understand what I did? |
| 21:40.39 | critter | yeap |
| 21:40.50 | WormFood | what did I type, to get a command prompt? |
| 21:41.08 | WormFood | well...I didn't type it...I told him what to type. ;) |
| 21:41.29 | WormFood | <ctrl>z....then type "bg" |
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| 21:41.47 | WormFood | and how to stop that from working? run startx with "exec startx" |
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| 21:42.23 | critter | Yes, I dont understand why it doesnt work under display manager |
| 21:42.32 | WormFood | because you don't login to a shell |
| 21:42.33 | critter | hmmmm because you dont have a console |
| 21:42.36 | WormFood | right |
| 21:42.38 | critter | ok |
| 21:43.08 | critter | what is exec for? |
| 21:43.11 | WormFood | now I've been using unix-like systems since the 1980s, so I had to know tricks like that, back in the old days, just to get normal work done. |
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| 21:43.23 | WormFood | it replaced your current command, with the new one |
| 21:43.48 | WormFood | like, if I need to login as root, I'll frequently "exec su -", so that when I'm done, I don't have to logout twice. |
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| 21:44.56 | WormFood | of course, if I mistype the password, then I have to login again |
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| 21:47.47 | critter | ok |
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| 21:59.12 | monsti | hi |
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| 22:00.28 | monsti | any idea why "apt-get --reinstall install postgresql-9.1" won't restore my /etc/init.d/postgresql file? |
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| 22:01.44 | WormFood | because it's in postgresql-common |
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| 22:02.12 | WormFood | monsti, apt-file is your friend. |
| 22:02.58 | taplaptap | i'm trying to figure which packages from a certain repo i've installed. I'm getting a cyconet error when i apt-get update,.. I want to see which packages are installed from cyconet, anyone know how? dpkg -l | grep cyco, only 1 installed and it was the key |
| 22:03.04 | monsti | has no friends :( |
| 22:03.13 | monsti | ... no i just made friend with apt-file |
| 22:04.34 | monsti | postgresql-common: /etc/init.d/postgresql |
| 22:04.43 | monsti | installed that - but still no init.d file :( |
| 22:06.12 | monsti | ok got it ... i had to purge it first |
| 22:06.13 | monsti | ths! |
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| 22:21.21 | taplaptap | is there no way to tell which packages came from which repo? |
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| 22:23.40 | redstonecraftpl | Hi |
| 22:23.43 | redstonecraftpl | help |
| 22:23.59 | redstonecraftpl | how i can disable my laptop fans? |
| 22:24.15 | bogus- | why should you? |
| 22:24.40 | redstonecraftpl | bcause it makes so many noise and my bro is asleep.. |
| 22:24.46 | redstonecraftpl | only for a while xd |
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| 22:27.02 | AlphaTech | redstonecraftpl: No, no, no |
| 22:27.16 | redstonecraftpl | why no? |
| 22:27.18 | AlphaTech | redstonecraftpl: If you want the fans off, turn off the computer |
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| 22:27.37 | AlphaTech | redstonecraftpl: Without the fans, something WILL overheat in about 30 seconds |
| 22:27.46 | redstonecraftpl | Intel? Never |
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| 22:27.53 | redstonecraftpl | AMD? Yep |
| 22:28.12 | bogus- | I wonder if there's any news on debian 8.0 |
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| 22:28.27 | redstonecraftpl | I wonder any news on 9.0 |
| 22:28.30 | redstonecraftpl | :) |
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| 22:28.52 | AlphaTech | redstonecraftpl: Most computers keeps the fans as low as they can without overheating itself (unless you disabled the feature and set it yourself) |
| 22:29.26 | redstonecraftpl | dont elaborate, give me command how to change it |
| 22:31.22 | WormFood | redstonecraftpl, stick a toothpick or a match into the fan, to keep it from spinning. |
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| 22:32.15 | WormFood | redstonecraftpl, fan control is usually specific to the methods used in your laptop to control the fan. You may not have control over it. |
| 22:33.05 | WormFood | I seriously doubt you can find any (software) tools, to disable it. |
| 22:33.37 | WormFood | redstonecraftpl, try lm_sensors |
| 22:34.49 | WormFood | redstonecraftpl, if you have a GPU chip in your laptop, expect early failure of that chip, if you turn off the fan....well, earlier failure than normal |
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| 22:35.13 | taplaptap | is there NO WAY to see which packages are installed from WHICH repo? cyconet is having pubkey issues, i wanna just remove it but i don't know which packages are from cyconet?? |
| 22:35.19 | redstonecraftpl | i have integrated graphics |
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| 22:35.34 | redstonecraftpl | 100% intel |
| 22:35.39 | redstonecraftpl | 70%* |
| 22:35.45 | redstonecraftpl | i have ram from kingston |
| 22:35.52 | WormFood | you make it sound like Intel components don't get hot. |
| 22:36.33 | redstonecraftpl | i seen a video of playing Quake 2 and getting radiator of the proc |
| 22:36.49 | bogus- | taplaptap: apt-cache showpkg maybe? |
| 22:36.51 | PsilonuX | redstonecraftpl, something like this: https://github.com/nicolai-rostov/asus-fancontrol ? |
| 22:36.55 | redstonecraftpl | intel 3,4 : from 37-38 to 40 Celsius |
| 22:37.10 | redstonecraftpl | kthx |
| 22:37.18 | bogus- | redstonecraftpl: that video is 10+ years old |
| 22:37.22 | redstonecraftpl | but if you say it guys |
| 22:37.32 | WormFood | http://linux.die.net/man/8/fancontrol Please be careful when using the fan control features of your mainboard, in addition to the risk of burning your CPU, at higher temperatures there will be a higher wearout of your other hardware components, too. |
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| 22:37.34 | redstonecraftpl | i dont use it |
| 22:37.58 | redstonecraftpl | ok, nothing |
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| 22:38.05 | redstonecraftpl | if you say |
| 22:39.39 | rryoumaa | i am doing badblocks and it is creating log files that are too large for the partition. how do i turn off kern.log messages syslog logging, at least for i/o errors? |
| 22:39.43 | PsilonuX | fancontrol is very hw specific, usually via acpi calls or BIOS/uefi only |
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| 23:01.55 | jhutchins | rryoumaa: If you're seeing bad blocks through an IDE/ATA/SATA interface you have a very limited time left to recover the data on that device. |
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| 23:04.01 | jhutchins | rryoumaa: At this point you need to boot to alternative media and consider that drive lost. |
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| 23:17.39 | Walex | rryoumaa: by editing something like '/etc/syslog.conf' |
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| 23:18.52 | Walex | rryoumaa: and restarting 'syslog' or whatever else you use. |
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| 23:21.49 | dolcefollia | there's one to use nagios? |
| 23:21.51 | dolcefollia | :) |
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| 23:23.09 | rryoumaa | jhutchins: Walex thanks |
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| 23:24.34 | rryoumaa | jhutchins: my intention was to zero out the drive so that i can return it and get another, but there are so many errors now i think some of my data might be unerasable. however, i don't know if i was getting read or write errors. |
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| 23:25.15 | rryoumaa | drive going in and out of service too, so i have to reboot to get access to it again |
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| 23:28.03 | Walex | rryoumaa: if SATA then look for 'SECURITY ERASE' |
| 23:28.25 | Walex | rryoumaa: also hopefully you have set timeouts and retries to low values otherwise |
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| 23:29.31 | rryoumaa | hmm, good idea. hdparm takes a password, that's strange |
| 23:29.54 | rryoumaa | Walex: no, i didn't find anything related to timeouts or retries. then again i don't really know where to look other than hdparm and sdparm. |
| 23:30.23 | rryoumaa | i killed the badblocks, might use dd after i reboot |
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