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| 00:02.13 | tommyF | did you check the route to the dns server is still there> |
| 00:03.03 | Twinsen_ | how do I |
| 00:03.05 | Twinsen_ | ? |
| 00:03.15 | Twinsen_ | I see the default route, as normal |
| 00:03.55 | tommyF | what is in /etc/resolv.conf? correct ip? |
| 00:04.58 | Twinsen_ | empty |
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| 00:07.43 | Twinsen_ | I changed eth0 to br0 and added the bridge params |
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| 00:08.06 | Twinsen_ | and the network is okay (I can ping, etc.) |
| 00:08.41 | tremon | it may be that resolvconf ignores bridge interfaces by default. Check resolvconf.conf, if using that package |
| 00:11.12 | Twinsen_ | lemme see |
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| 00:14.44 | tremon | I can't find it in the manpage, but I vaguely remember having to do something like that |
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| 00:15.03 | tommyF | Epakai: |
| 00:15.03 | tommyF | The short answer is NO, you can't use a cable to adapt from HDMI to VGA. Such an adapter would require significant digital to analog video conversion horsepower. A few recent AV receivers will convert HDMI input to Component output, although I'm not sure if they'd handle the YCbCr to RGB colorspace conversion necessary to drive most VGA monitors. |
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| 00:18.00 | Shadow_7 | there are devices to convert hdmi to vga. But it's a digital to analog signal change. some HDMI outs have enough power to do that for cables that have the "chip" inside the cable. Others require a box and a power source / walwart. |
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| 00:19.23 | Twinsen_ | tremon: thanks.. I had a typo in interfaces... now, if I can get the bridge to work in qemu, everything will be grand ;) |
| 00:20.44 | tommyF | thanks Epakai and Shadow_7 |
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| 00:21.17 | tommyF | might be cheaper to just buy a very cheap used hdmi tv :) |
| 00:21.43 | Shadow_7 | converters are $10 - $30 -ish USD |
| 00:22.03 | Shadow_7 | but yes. money better spent on an HDMI display |
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| 00:22.51 | tommyF | Shadow_7: do you think this a good cable? http://www.amazon.com/A-Sonic-HDMI-HD15-Male-Cable/dp/B001OLCHJ6 |
| 00:23.07 | warsh | how do I bind my domain name, to my specific debian computer; atm I have a znc bouncer running on it. |
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| 00:23.43 | warsh | tommyF: better off getting a cheap converter |
| 00:24.12 | warsh | tommyF: the picture isn't always best (YMMV), but it works |
| 00:24.40 | Shadow_7 | tommyF: I normally go by the raspberry pi compatibility lists. If it works there, should work anywhere |
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| 00:37.50 | malice | Hey guys. Noob question here. I have Debian Sid installed, with LXDE DE and Openbox WM. Am I right, that I don't need DE? I previously used CrunchBang; it had Openbox, but I believe it had none DEs. |
| 00:38.15 | malice | If I was to uninstall LXDE, would it cause much trouble? |
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| 00:41.28 | nkuttler | malice: openbox is enough |
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| 00:42.46 | malice | nkuttlerI will read about uninstalling LXDE and see what I can do. Thanks! |
| 00:43.20 | DeaDSouL | i forget that command which shows my username and uid. and my groups with their ids ? |
| 00:43.29 | DeaDSouL | what was the command ? |
| 00:43.54 | linuxuz3r_ | cat /etc/passwd |
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| 00:44.26 | dvs | DeaDSouL: The commands you seek are contained in your own question. |
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| 00:44.48 | DeaDSouL | linduxed: there was a command outputs something like this user(id),group(id) ...etc |
| 00:44.54 | DeaDSouL | dvs: lol... i forgot :P |
| 00:45.14 | dvs | DeaDSouL: "id" and "groups" |
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| 00:45.33 | DeaDSouL | dvs: yesssss 'id' |
| 00:45.35 | DeaDSouL | hehehe :P |
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| 00:53.31 | un214 | how do I configure KDE multimon? |
| 00:53.47 | un214 | login did the "correct" thing and mirrored the display to all monitors |
| 00:54.05 | un214 | once KDE took over it declared one monitor to be primary and moved itself to that one |
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| 00:54.25 | un214 | unfortunately it grabbed the wrong one -- a monitor that cannot be used for general use |
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| 00:57.16 | DeaDSouL | when i mount a usb drive from terminal with my normal user .. it works... but i can't read/write into it i'm using 'mount /dev/sdc1 /mnt/wd1' my user has the right to use sudo mount without root privileges |
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| 00:57.35 | DeaDSouL | the usb filesystem is ext4 |
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| 00:58.51 | DeaDSouL | how to solve the read/write permissions ? what arguments to add next to mount command ? |
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| 01:54.22 | DeaDSouL | when I update the system .. it says 'W: A error occurred during the signature verification. The repository is not updated and the previous index files will be used. GPG error: http://security.debian.org wheezy/updates Release: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 8B |
| 01:54.22 | DeaDSouL | 48AD6246925553 Debian Archive Automatic Signing Key (7.0/wheezy) <ftpmaster@debian.org>' |
| 01:54.31 | DeaDSouL | how to solve it ? |
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| 01:56.08 | Brigo | DeaDSouL, are you system clock synced? |
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| 01:56.43 | DeaDSouL | Brigo: hey man how are you? no.. not yet but planning to :) |
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| 01:57.46 | Brigo | DeaDSouL, if you system time is wrong the signature key system will fail. Check it. (hi there) :) |
| 01:58.32 | DeaDSouL | Brigo: how to sync it automatically then ? |
| 01:59.07 | Brigo | installing some ntp client, like ntpclient |
| 01:59.10 | Cyis | DeaDSouL: ntp |
| 02:00.52 | DeaDSouL | Brigo, Cyis: done.. what now? |
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| 02:02.03 | Brigo | try it again? |
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| 02:02.37 | abrotman | perhaps actually have him check the date instead of installing random things :) |
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| 02:03.23 | Brigo | abrotman, point :) |
| 02:03.46 | abrotman | not that NTP isn't a good thing ot have installed, but ... |
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| 02:04.26 | Brigo | DeaDSouL, sorry, i have to go to bed, it is too late for me. But checking the date and time will not hurt :) |
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| 02:05.01 | DeaDSouL | Brigo: ok bro.. good night :) |
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| 02:05.19 | Brigo | good night everybody! :) |
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| 02:08.07 | chrstfer | how does /dev/[u]random work? |
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| 02:08.27 | chrstfer | I know its openended and broad, but im bored and someone might know and want to talk about it |
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| 02:09.36 | pingfloyd | chrstfer: the source code knows |
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| 03:14.17 | Vennix | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hP42YTD0YGM |
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| 03:36.42 | lolnopeno | ok |
| 03:36.49 | lolnopeno | who fucked with the apt repos |
| 03:36.52 | lolnopeno | srsly |
| 03:37.09 | lolnopeno | Failed to fetch http://http.debian.net/debian/pool/main/g/gcj-4.7/gcj-4.7-jre_4.7.2-3_amd64.deb Error reading from server. Remote end closed connection [IP: 46.4.205.44 80] |
| 03:37.21 | lolnopeno | Err http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy/main gcj-4.7-jre amd64 4.7.2-3 |
| 03:37.22 | lolnopeno | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:37.28 | lolnopeno | who let Richard Stallman near the servers |
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| 03:38.05 | lolnopeno | cmon |
| 03:38.09 | lolnopeno | speak up. |
| 03:38.14 | lolnopeno | who let richard near the servers again? |
| 03:38.17 | paultag | !ops lolnopeno |
| 03:38.17 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: paultag complains about: lolnopeno |
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| 03:38.29 | paultag | cheers |
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| 03:57.43 | k_sze[work] | I have trouble installing libavresample-dev. I get an unmet dependencies error: libavresample-dev : Depends: libavutil-dev (= 6:10.1-1~bpo70+1) but 6:0.8.16-1 is to be installed |
| 03:58.31 | dvs | k_sze[work]: apt-get -t wheezy-backports libavresample-dev |
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| 03:58.54 | dvs | k_sze[work]: apt-get -t wheezy-backports install libavresample-dev |
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| 03:59.49 | jrobeson | dear debian users. anybody on debian 8 with systemd as the init system can tell me the output of /proc/1/comm ? |
| 04:00.38 | k_sze[work] | dvs: wheezy-backports means backported from jessie, right? |
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| 04:00.45 | dvs | no |
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| 04:02.58 | jrobeson | i mean cat /proc/1/comm |
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| 04:03.40 | k_sze[work] | dvs: backported from testing? |
| 04:04.00 | dvs | no, usually sid |
| 04:04.12 | themill | no, from testing. |
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| 04:07.34 | k_sze[work] | strange, why does dpkg -s libavutil-dev tell me that version 6:0.8.16-1 is installed? |
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| 04:08.13 | jordanm | jrobeson: see `man proc` |
| 04:08.29 | themill | k_sze[work]: that's the version in wheezy and as apt said, that's what's installed |
| 04:08.42 | jrobeson | jordanm,do what? |
| 04:08.48 | jrobeson | how will that help |
| 04:08.50 | hatter_ | I have just installed installed wheezy succesfully onto a pair of 6Tb hard drives, however when I reboot they won't boot. I created a Bios Boot Partition first. If I put a 500Gb disk in it boots fine. What could be the problem ? |
| 04:08.56 | jrobeson | i need it specifically for systemd on pid 1. |
| 04:09.02 | k_sze[work] | I thought apt-get just told me that 6:0.8.16-1 is *to be installed* - i.e. not installed yet. |
| 04:09.14 | jrobeson | i'm not using debian.. just trying to act on a hunch. |
| 04:09.32 | jrobeson | because ansible works on debian.. and i want to make sure my approach has a chance of working when installed on debian |
| 04:09.41 | jrobeson | so don't patronize me |
| 04:09.42 | themill | k_sze[work]: "is to be installed" means "is installed or will be installed". "installed" is a status, not an action |
| 04:09.53 | jordanm | jbraeg: "systemd" |
| 04:10.04 | jrobeson | cool. thanks! |
| 04:10.09 | jbraeg | ? |
| 04:10.10 | jordanm | jrobeson: i misread your question |
| 04:10.12 | k_sze[work] | themill: I see. |
| 04:10.33 | jrobeson | jbraeg, bad nick completion . it was to me |
| 04:10.37 | jbraeg | :D |
| 04:11.17 | jordanm | ETAB |
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| 04:14.22 | jrobeson | EBADTAB? |
| 04:14.33 | jrobeson | for me it's usually ETOOQUICKTAB |
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| 04:21.42 | lolnopeno | So does anyone know why the debian repo's are randomly d/cing like that? |
| 04:22.00 | lolnopeno | paulr, |
| 04:22.10 | lolnopeno | paultag, |
| 04:22.36 | lolnopeno | Sorry, my client is glitching out right now. |
| 04:22.59 | jrobeson | jordanm, sorry for accusing you of patronizing me.. it does happen a bit too often , so i jumped the gun :( |
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| 04:24.27 | jrobeson | so thanks for your help. you've helped us verify our assumptions, so have a good day :) |
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| 04:58.21 | yourbeau | guys how remove a package along with all its dependencies with aptitude or apt-get ? |
| 04:58.40 | themill | aptitude does that for you automatically |
| 04:58.47 | jordanm | yourbeau: aptitude does it by default if they are marked automatically installed |
| 04:59.05 | jordanm | yourbeau: equiv with apt-get: apt-get remove foo; apt-get autoremove |
| 04:59.29 | yourbeau | jordanm, I did aptitude purge openbox |
| 04:59.49 | yourbeau | but it did not remove all the packages it installed when I did aptitude install openbox |
| 05:00.37 | themill | yourbeau: that would imply that packages you already had installed also wanted those additional packages you just installed |
| 05:00.47 | jordanm | yourbeau: then they are also needed by something else or you have marked them manually installed |
| 05:00.58 | dondelelcaro | (or something else recommends or suggests them) |
| 05:01.56 | Rusty1 | or that something subsequently installed depends on them as well |
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| 05:02.32 | yourbeau | jordanm, themill but if they were needed by something else then why were they there already ? |
| 05:02.41 | yourbeau | I am I had Gnome already |
| 05:02.49 | yourbeau | and then when I installed openbox |
| 05:02.56 | yourbeau | it did install a lot of other packages |
| 05:03.35 | themill | yourbeau: as dondelelcaro said, recommends or suggests are also obeyed by aptitude. |
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| 05:05.18 | yourbeau | themill, sudo apt-get autoremove dont remove those packages |
| 05:05.34 | themill | (I would assume you need -o Apt::AutoRemove::SuggestsImportant=false) |
| 05:05.58 | yourbeau | oh |
| 05:06.37 | themill | You may also need the equivalent option for Recommends, but then there's a change you're going to remove a lot more than you wanted |
| 05:08.23 | yourbeau | themill, I think it is broken |
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| 05:36.31 | xenzuki | hey, hows everyone today? |
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| 05:49.14 | xenzuki | I love the disc burner that comes with debian |
| 05:50.29 | Twinsen_ | the Wheezy backport of virtualbox seems to have a serious bug. It allows two remote servers at the same time (VRDE & VNC) which then use the same port, effectively stopping VNC from working |
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| 05:51.06 | nicholas | hello |
| 05:51.17 | nicholas | anyone get steam working in debian? |
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| 05:52.09 | nicholas | I can install a modified installer and downlaod and run games, but when I reboot and open steam, everything seems to be reset |
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| 05:52.48 | xenzuki | do games run better on debian than xp? |
| 05:53.00 | nicholas | idk |
| 05:53.07 | nicholas | probably |
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| 05:53.24 | xenzuki | i thought u needed directX |
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| 05:54.08 | nicholas | oh yeah, you can use a program called wine or playonlinux |
| 05:54.28 | nicholas | but I'm pretty sure they slow down the game |
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| 05:55.23 | xenzuki | i think those are virtual machines |
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| 05:56.01 | nicholas | no, those are emulators |
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| 05:56.19 | nicholas | and gues what, wine stands for wine is not an emulator LOL |
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| 05:57.24 | xenzuki | just like gnu linux :) |
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| 05:58.51 | xenzuki | is wine fast |
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| 06:00.36 | xenzuki | gnu is not unix ;) |
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| 06:03.54 | xenzuki | emulators are fun |
| 06:04.30 | xenzuki | like the NES emulator |
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| 06:05.41 | xenzuki | or superNES, then i can play super mario world |
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| 06:06.09 | xenzuki | the one where princess had the umbrella |
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| 06:12.32 | jordanm | xenzuki: she can have one in super mario rpg |
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| 06:17.06 | suggestor | NES? |
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| 06:36.08 | superrorc | 2d 7.7 -> 7.8 strongswan |
| 06:36.22 | superrorc | hate this!!! |
| 06:36.50 | superrorc | need configure this service from strach again |
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| 07:06.55 | topi` | would it be possible to boot up debian without a read-write /etc filesystem - with systemd perhaps it's possible? |
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| 07:45.35 | dingle | hello |
| 07:45.41 | dingle | hello, i just install debian from a livecd, how would i go about getting apt up and running? |
| 07:45.46 | dingle | seems odd that apt didnt come with the installation |
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| 07:47.20 | nkuttler | dingle: which part of it is not running? |
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| 07:47.48 | dingle | sudo dpkg -i google-chrome-stable_current_amd64.deb |
| 07:47.56 | dingle | oops. not that |
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| 07:48.07 | dingle | [dingle@secretpolice ~]$ apt-get wget |
| 07:48.07 | dingle | bash: apt-get: command not found |
| 07:48.11 | dingle | that happens |
| 07:48.20 | dingle | apt isnt installed |
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| 07:48.41 | nkuttler | dingle: try the full path, /usr/bin/apt-get |
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| 07:50.11 | dingle | i need apt-get |
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| 07:50.15 | dingle | [dingle@secretpolice bin]$ /usr/bin/apt-get wget |
| 07:50.15 | dingle | bash: /usr/bin/apt-get: No such file or directory |
| 07:50.27 | nkuttler | dingle: you're not using debian |
| 07:50.31 | dingle | apt is missing completely |
| 07:50.40 | dingle | yes i am |
| 07:50.52 | nkuttler | dingle: cat /etc/debian_version |
| 07:51.19 | dingle | /bin/sh: /etc/debian_version: No such file or directory |
| 07:51.22 | dingle | odd |
| 07:51.31 | nkuttler | like i said, not debian |
| 07:52.55 | dingle | wierd, i got the livecd from the debian site |
| 07:53.06 | dingle | and during install it had the debian logo in the corner |
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| 07:53.17 | dingle | seems to use yum |
| 07:53.27 | martines | try "cat /etc/os-release" |
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| 07:53.50 | nkuttler | or /etc/redhat_release |
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| 07:56.13 | dingle | um, its somehow centos |
| 07:56.26 | dingle | now i have to download the image again |
| 07:56.27 | dingle | arg |
| 07:56.32 | dingle | bbiab |
| 07:56.38 | Sergios | Hi. In the login screen I changed through different "login to options" like Gnome, Gnome Classic, Wayback, etc, and after that the system won't start properly after roboot, it instead displays blank screen. But if I switch to TTY1 and login and tell startx, it takes me to graphical mode. |
| 07:56.44 | nkuttler | dingle: you should probably download a different image.. or boot into the right os.. |
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| 07:56.48 | Sergios | I'm using latest unstable |
| 07:57.17 | nkuttler | !debian-next |
| 07:57.17 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net). |
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| 08:00.08 | dingle | i am getting a differant image |
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| 08:00.52 | dingle | i downloaded this link: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/current-live/amd64/bt-hybrid/debian-live-7.7.0-amd64-gnome-desktop.iso.torrent |
| 08:00.55 | Sergios | When I try joining #debian-next, it's taking me here |
| 08:01.02 | dingle | which somehow got me a redhat release |
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| 08:02.12 | dingle | i hope this kde one works |
| 08:02.20 | dingle | so i can start using linux again |
| 08:02.24 | dingle | i'm an OG |
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| 08:11.49 | child | how can I forward emails on my email server trhough the ISP? |
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| 08:19.10 | percY- | Anyone recommend a desktop environment? |
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| 08:20.54 | nkuttler | child: what do you exactly mean? |
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| 08:55.11 | Iridos | percY-, default install media come with gnome-shell if you choose the "desktop" task. *shrug* I've tried it and still run it, but did a lot of modifications that make it a bit more like other DEs/WMs |
| 08:55.39 | Iridos | sergi... |
| 08:56.11 | percY- | modifications in what way? |
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| 08:58.13 | babilen | Installation of extensions would be my guess |
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| 08:58.40 | superrorc | Why my ipsec (strongswan on 7.8 ) calling setup command??? http://paste.debian.net/plain/140272 |
| 08:58.47 | superrorc | and dont autostart on boot |
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| 08:58.53 | superrorc | any ideas pls? |
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| 09:00.11 | k_sze[work] | Hmm, why does libav-tools have a dependency on libopencv-core2.3 and libopencv-imgproc2.3? |
| 09:00.32 | babilen | k_sze[work]: Why does that surprise you? |
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| 09:01.32 | babilen | (presumably because it uses functionality from those libraries) |
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| 09:02.09 | k_sze[work] | Because OpenCV is for computer vision. If anything, it should be opencv depending on libav/ffmpeg, not the other way around. |
| 09:04.05 | babilen | judd: depends libav-tools |
| 09:04.06 | judd | Package libav-tools in wheezy/i386 -- depends: libavcodec53 (>= 6:0.8.3-1~) | libavcodec-extra-53 (>= 6:0.8.16), libavdevice53 (>= 6:0.8.3-1~), libavfilter2 (>= 6:0.8.3-1~), libavformat53 (>= 6:0.8.3-1~), libavutil51 (>= 6:0.8.3-1~), libc6 (>= 2.7), libpostproc52 (>= 6:0.8.3-1~), libsdl1.2debian (>= 1.2.11), libswscale2 (>= 6:0.8.3-1~),dpkg (>= 1.15.7.2~). |
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| 09:04.34 | babilen | Could you elaborate on that "have a dependency on libopencv-core2.3 and libopencv-imgproc2.3" bit ? |
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| 09:07.47 | themill | ,why libav-tools libopencv-core2.3 |
| 09:07.50 | judd | Packages libav-tools and libopencv-core2.3 in wheezy/i386 are linked by 2 chains: libav-tools ⶠlibavfilter2 ⶠlibopencv-core2.3; libav-tools ⶠlibavfilter2 ⶠlibopencv-imgproc2.3 ⶠlibopencv-core2.3 |
| 09:07.56 | themill | (it's for filtering -- that's what opencv does) |
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| 09:10.07 | dingle | what choice of debian installs do you prefer? |
| 09:10.23 | nkuttler | !tell dingle about netinst |
| 09:10.37 | Vroomfondle | I always use netinst |
| 09:10.37 | babilen | dingle: Could you be a *bit* more specific? |
| 09:11.13 | dingle | well, doesnt it have differant flavors of dvds? i am going to put one on my usb drive to install it |
| 09:11.41 | Dasiel | I use netinstall because it has the coolest name. |
| 09:11.52 | nkuttler | i use it because it's a tiny image.. |
| 09:11.59 | babilen | dingle: It really depends on what you want to install, your network connection and hardware. I typicaly use the netinstall with firmware, but there are definitely situations in which you might want to use one of the other images. |
| 09:12.04 | Iridos | this suddenly turned into an netinst advertisement channel :-/ |
| 09:12.18 | nkuttler | and a meta discussion channel |
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| 09:12.33 | babilen | dingle: You should keep in mind that the installer is the same on all of them and that, given network access, you can use every image for every install. |
| 09:12.40 | dingle | none of the links to get the cd via torrent work |
| 09:12.43 | dingle | all dead links |
| 09:12.57 | nkuttler | dingle: "the links"? |
| 09:13.06 | babilen | They might have not have been updated for the point release, just grab it directly from the mirror |
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| 09:13.19 | Dasiel | I always go with netinstall since it has the smallest number of pre-installed packages. So far I've had only one problem when it couldn't find NIC of one IBM server |
| 09:13.20 | dingle | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.7.0/amd64/bt-cd/ |
| 09:13.24 | dingle | thats a dead link |
| 09:13.32 | k_sze[work] | babilen, themill: actually this is a known problem: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=671302 |
| 09:13.34 | Dasiel | but I solved it with that netinstall iso which has firmware for most NICs |
| 09:13.36 | dingle | like every other link the previous page refers to |
| 09:13.37 | babilen | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.8.0/amd64/bt-cd/ |
| 09:14.31 | dingle | wtf, all the links arent working to grab a disc |
| 09:14.33 | babilen | dingle: But then: What do you want to install, do you have a working internet connection and does your hardware (NIC and wifi adaptor in particular) require firmware? |
| 09:14.49 | dingle | yes they require firmware |
| 09:14.53 | babilen | dingle: I gave you the link already, just replace 7.7.0 with 7.8.0 |
| 09:14.55 | k_sze[work] | not sure why the problem is back with libav-tools version 6:0.8.9-1 |
| 09:15.10 | babilen | dingle: Well, in that case you might want to use the netinstall with firmware and/or sideload firmware |
| 09:15.16 | babilen | dpkg: tell dingle -about firmware image |
| 09:15.22 | babilen | dpkg: tell dingle -about installer firmware |
| 09:15.41 | babilen | dingle: Do you know which, if any, desktop environment you'd like to install? |
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| 09:16.17 | dingle | i dont like how windows like linux has gotten |
| 09:16.25 | babilen | (I will, from now on assume that you have a working internet connection even though you haven't answered that question) |
| 09:16.28 | dingle | hiding bash and everything |
| 09:16.54 | themill | dingle: that would only be if you chose to install that |
| 09:17.03 | themill | k_sze[work]: unless you're trying to rebuild multimedia packages for a new architecture not in debian yet, there's not actually a bug here anyway |
| 09:17.03 | babilen | (hence my question) |
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| 09:17.42 | dingle | my internet works |
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| 09:17.53 | k_sze[work] | themill: the thing is we don't want the opencv from the debian repos. We're building and installing opencv 3 system-wide instead. |
| 09:18.05 | dingle | i am getting the xfce version this time |
| 09:18.09 | linuxthefish | hiya, how do i solve "perl: warning: Setting locale failed."? |
| 09:18.15 | linuxthefish | locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory |
| 09:18.15 | linuxthefish | locale: Cannot set LC_MESSAGES to default locale: No such file or directory |
| 09:18.15 | linuxthefish | locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory |
| 09:18.19 | babilen | dpkg: tell dingle -about install xfce |
| 09:18.38 | themill | linuxthefish: (a) don't paste (b) /msg dpkg locales |
| 09:18.50 | babilen | linuxthefish: Please don't paste into the channel and run "dpkg-reconfigure locales" and configure it to your liking |
| 09:19.05 | linuxthefish | oh sorry |
| 09:19.10 | linuxthefish | i didnt know it was so many line! |
| 09:19.13 | linuxthefish | is " All locales" ok? |
| 09:19.57 | babilen | Sure, if that is what you want. I'm typically a bit more selective, but there is no reason why it wouldn't be okay |
| 09:20.01 | linuxthefish | what's default one for british english? :S |
| 09:20.17 | linuxthefish | is EN_gb ok? |
| 09:20.17 | colo-work | if you're going to enable ALL locales, you might as well install the "locales-all" package |
| 09:20.23 | babilen | en_GB.utf-8 (or en_PK.utf-8) |
| 09:21.10 | babilen | linuxthefish: You want en_GB and the unicode variant thereof |
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| 09:21.40 | linuxthefish | oh thanks, so confusing :( |
| 09:21.43 | linuxthefish | what is ISO-8859-1 ? |
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| 09:22.26 | linuxthefish | i still get locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory :S |
| 09:22.30 | babilen | linuxthefish: A particular character encoding (legacy one) -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO/IEC_8859-1 |
| 09:22.37 | linuxthefish | and the LC_MESSAGES and LC_ALL |
| 09:22.47 | babilen | brb |
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| 09:36.21 | child | nkuttler: I mean exactly how can I use my ISP for sending to delivery my mails... ? |
| 09:37.06 | Stargazers | child: Config your email client (or your server) to use your ISP SMTP server? |
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| 09:46.23 | nkuttler | child: sounds like you want to configure a smart host |
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| 10:13.18 | child | nkuttler: smart host? |
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| 10:26.32 | kk_ | Hi, I want to automount android device in debian wheezy. Need help |
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| 10:30.42 | kk_ | HEllo |
| 10:31.07 | kk_ | Need Help to mount android device on debian wheezy |
| 10:31.15 | babilen | kk_: What have you tried so far? |
| 10:31.43 | babilen | https://wiki.debian.org/mtp might be of interest |
| 10:31.57 | babilen | just uses nautilus |
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| 10:34.13 | kk_ | I used mtpfs ,Go-mtpfs ,Write some rules under /lib/udev/rules.d/69-libmtp.rules plus /etc/udev/rules.d/51.android.rules But didn't work for me |
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| 10:39.34 | kk_ | By using mtpfs it connects for sometime but when i write or remove something it end communication of device with pc |
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| 10:50.41 | SPTK | spanish? |
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| 11:08.58 | sunkawakan | hi all, |
| 11:09.11 | JNixx | sunkawakan: Hi |
| 11:09.23 | sunkawakan | someone should change the links on https://www.debian.org/CD/torrent-cd/ to 7.8.0 |
| 11:09.25 | sunkawakan | they are broken now |
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| 11:24.23 | jaggzt | shouldn't I move /var/tmp off of SSD also? |
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| 11:44.28 | Milos | Why does Debian have to be so terrible sometimes. |
| 11:44.43 | Milos | I installed shorewall and accidentally deleted the /etc/shorewall/shorewall.conf file |
| 11:44.47 | Milos | so I want to reinstall the package |
| 11:44.50 | Milos | guess what, I can't |
| 11:45.04 | Milos | Setting up shorewall (4.5.5.3-3) ... |
| 11:45.10 | Milos | /etc/shorewall/shorewall.conf does not exist! |
| 11:45.14 | Milos | of course it doesn't exist |
| 11:45.19 | Milos | that's why I freaking did apt-get install --reinstall shorewall |
| 11:45.38 | Milos | yet it tells me that the file doesn't exist |
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| 11:46.12 | Megaf | Milos: apt-get purge shorewall |
| 11:46.24 | Megaf | rm -r /etc/shorewall |
| 11:46.30 | Megaf | apt-get install shorewall |
| 11:46.37 | Milos | we're never going to get anywhere |
| 11:46.44 | Milos | it's failing to stop shorewall "not done" |
| 11:46.48 | Milos | so it doesn't remove it. |
| 11:46.58 | Megaf | ps aux | grep shorewall |
| 11:47.01 | Megaf | is it running? |
| 11:47.10 | Milos | no |
| 11:47.23 | Megaf | apt-get purge shorewall |
| 11:47.26 | Megaf | does that work? |
| 11:47.36 | Milos | anyway I don't think shorewall is an actual process |
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| 11:47.40 | Milos | no it doesn't it returns an error |
| 11:47.47 | Milos | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) |
| 11:47.52 | fraff | Milos: aptitude download shorewall && dpkg -x shorewall*deb . |
| 11:47.54 | Milos | because |
| 11:47.55 | Milos | Stopping "Shorewall firewall": not done. |
| 11:47.55 | Milos | invoke-rc.d: initscript shorewall, action "stop" failed. |
| 11:48.02 | themill | !confmiss |
| 11:48.02 | dpkg | You have to especially tell the packaging system to reinstall config files because when they are gone, it is assumed that you want them to stay deleted. "aptitude -o DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' reinstall $packagename" will restore them (man dpkg for details). If the package uses <ucf> for config file management, ask me about <ucf confmiss>. |
| 11:48.35 | fraff | themill: nice; thanks |
| 11:48.41 | Megaf | Interesting, I din't know about that |
| 11:48.45 | Milos | neither |
| 11:48.47 | Megaf | Thanks indeed :) |
| 11:48.47 | Milos | that's going in the wiki |
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| 11:49.00 | Milos | thanks for everyone else who tried to help too |
| 11:49.05 | Megaf | jaggzt: Yep, maybe |
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| 11:50.30 | superkai64 | hi |
| 11:50.55 | Megaf | jaggzt: take a look at my mount points that I made to save my SSD as much as I could. http://paste.debian.net/plain/140290 |
| 11:51.09 | superkai64 | i am planning a respin of debian |
| 11:51.18 | Megaf | superkai64: so am I |
| 11:51.26 | jaggzt | found it, megaf.. turns out it wasn't ssd.. was /tmp/ got a bunch of temp .blend(er) files that went in there.. and it's a ramfs set to only 320mb |
| 11:51.52 | Megaf | jaggzt: take a look at http://paste.debian.net/plain/140290 anyway :) |
| 11:51.55 | jaggzt | nod.. am |
| 11:51.58 | jaggzt | :) |
| 11:52.00 | superkai64 | i choose debian because its the most supported linux distro |
| 11:52.11 | Megaf | there are lots of directories that you can put on RAM using tmpfs |
| 11:52.22 | Megaf | superkai64: I choose Debian because of stability |
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| 11:53.00 | superkai64 | the problem is.... |
| 11:53.06 | jaggzt | megaf, what's /run/user/#### ? |
| 11:53.17 | superkai64 | i have never compiled a program before |
| 11:53.18 | jaggzt | I don't have a /run/user at all |
| 11:55.55 | jaggzt | megaf, you're using like 9G of ram for your tmpfs folders? |
| 11:56.26 | jaggzt | does that actually consume that much memory, or does linux just use what is necessary and cap it at the limit? |
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| 11:57.07 | bazhang | linuxatemyram.com |
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| 11:59.58 | jaggzt | megaf, any special mount options in fstab for these other folders? (like nosuid on /tmp) |
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| 12:04.39 | aborrero | anyone recommend an identity management sollution? |
| 12:04.52 | Megaf | jaggzt: It uses what it needs |
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| 12:05.00 | aborrero | solution* |
| 12:05.05 | jaggzt | megaf, thanks :) |
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| 12:05.47 | Megaf | jaggzt: my fstab is like this |
| 12:05.49 | Megaf | tmpfs /var/cache tmpfs rw,size=1024M 0 0 |
| 12:05.58 | Megaf | tmpfs /var/log tmpfs rw,size=32M 0 0 |
| 12:06.00 | Megaf | and so on |
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| 12:08.38 | SynrGy | Megaf: and that works for you? doesn't debconf get confused by missing /var/cache/debconf? |
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| 12:09.34 | Megaf | SynrGy: I know it shouldn't work, but it works very well, I have the same fstab in two laptops, both with Debian installed on a USB Stick and it works very well |
| 12:09.45 | jaggzt | what's that way of mounting a folder as another directory (I'd like to put /var/log on my hd instead of tmpfs) |
| 12:09.54 | SynrGy | hmm. istr some user having issues when /var/cache/debconf is missing |
| 12:10.05 | SynrGy | maybe i'm misremembering, or maybe it only affects an earlier release |
| 12:10.08 | jaggzt | so I have /mnt/raid1/var/log |
| 12:10.26 | SynrGy | --bind |
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| 12:10.47 | superkai64 | back |
| 12:10.53 | SynrGy | jaggzt: mount --bind |
| 12:10.54 | superkai64 | had to switch computerrs |
| 12:11.11 | superkai64 | how does one compile a distro? |
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| 12:12.23 | jaggzt | SynrGy, thanks.. doing it in fstab so /dest /src none bind ... appears to be proper |
| 12:12.26 | Megaf | SynrGy: I had, but in that case I changed some stuff on some /etc file too |
| 12:12.43 | SynrGy | superkai64: the first rule of making new distros is: "don't" |
| 12:12.52 | SynrGy | superkai64: the second rule is "make an existing distro better instead" |
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| 12:13.00 | jaggzt | need to make sure the mdadm is mounted properly first.. supposedly that should be working properly before fstab mounts I think |
| 12:13.02 | jaggzt | iirc |
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| 12:13.23 | SynrGy | superkai64: however, if you want a fairly low entry level way to make custom live images, for example, see live-build |
| 12:13.34 | SynrGy | it can be fun, and not too difficult. |
| 12:13.37 | superkai64 | synrgy:i don't caere |
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| 12:13.40 | superkai64 | *care |
| 12:13.41 | SynrGy | and doesn't require you to compile anything |
| 12:13.50 | superkai64 | i know i can do that |
| 12:13.56 | superkai64 | and i don't care |
| 12:14.07 | superkai64 | i wanna make 100% gnu approved distro |
| 12:14.19 | jaggzt | megaf, you use libvirt stuff? |
| 12:14.19 | Megaf | I will be back later, need to free some RAM and clean my swap |
| 12:14.37 | jaggzt | bye megaf.. thanks a lot |
| 12:14.43 | jaggzt | been working on my fstab :) |
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| 12:15.03 | superkai64 | https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros |
| 12:15.45 | themill | superkai64: don't believe everything you read on that page |
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| 12:18.08 | nafac | How can I convert my amd64 debian to amd64+i686 by using source, I got this annoying loop *69* error stuck on compiling the toolchain |
| 12:18.30 | jaggzt | I don't see any mention in fstab nor tmpfs on the valid formats for size= values |
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| 12:18.33 | nafac | I fucking hate eating... |
| 12:18.43 | jaggzt | (100M instead of the full byte value) |
| 12:18.49 | nafac | coca leaves are cool thou |
| 12:18.53 | nafac | and free sugar |
| 12:18.58 | superkai64 | BUT GNU |
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| 12:19.03 | superkai64 | GNU + LINUX |
| 12:19.09 | Megaf | jaggzt: I tried using it sometimes, but I prefer OpenVZ Containers much more, and VirtualBox to run Windowze |
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| 12:20.05 | themill | superkai64: if that page were a wiki, it would get filled with [citation needed] or it could be fixed. Seeing as GNU doesn't seem to know what procedure to follow to change that page, it remains wildly inaccurate and full of silly assertions. |
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| 12:20.31 | jaggzt | megaf, thanks |
| 12:20.46 | superkai64 | i still wanna make my own distro |
| 12:20.58 | superkai64 | should i just compile vlc |
| 12:21.04 | superkai64 | and work my way up |
| 12:21.20 | Megaf | You don't actually need to compile stuff |
| 12:21.29 | Megaf | you can use the same packages Debian provides |
| 12:21.39 | superkai64 | but than ii would violate the GPL |
| 12:21.51 | superkai64 | and not be 100% gnu approved |
| 12:22.01 | jaggzt | (got the size= info.. from man mount) |
| 12:22.43 | pessoa | Debian isn't all GNU-approved, either |
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| 12:23.02 | superkai64 | i know |
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| 12:23.11 | superkai64 | thats why i am gonna make a fork |
| 12:23.43 | themill | superkai64: your time would be better spent working with the GNU people to actually get a definition of what you should be working towards |
| 12:24.07 | Megaf | google chrome uses lots of RAM now a days |
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| 12:24.53 | superkai64 | if you want lightweight qupzilla is pretty good |
| 12:25.12 | superkai64 | it uses the webkit engine |
| 12:25.23 | superkai64 | and works well on old hardware |
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| 12:26.01 | superkai64 | (used it when setting up my cilent's pc with linux lite that ran a amd e2 and had 4 gb of ram |
| 12:26.01 | superkai64 | ) |
| 12:27.43 | Megaf | AMD E1 here... |
| 12:28.17 | pessoa | uzbl is lighter |
| 12:28.39 | jaggzt | I wonder what's going to happen with my folders not being empty when the system comes up and tries to set them as tmpfs's |
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| 12:29.20 | superkai64 | megaf for real???? |
| 12:29.35 | Megaf | What? |
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| 12:32.14 | jaggzt | Commix -- Fully Communist Linux Distro |
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| 12:34.37 | jaggzt | UNIX IS A LINUX-LIKE OPERATING SYSTEM |
| 12:34.55 | L0aD1nG | loool |
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| 12:35.12 | superkai64 | was it unveiled at commie con? |
| 12:35.19 | jaggzt | heh |
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| 12:40.13 | superkai64 | wants to kill the sillence |
| 12:40.21 | LordCreepity | boo |
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| 12:40.33 | LordCreepity | i need help actually >.> |
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| 12:40.55 | superkai64 | with what |
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| 12:40.57 | superkai64 | I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components com |
| 12:40.57 | superkai64 | prising a full OS as defined by POSIX. |
| 12:40.57 | superkai64 | Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. |
| 12:40.57 | superkai64 | There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a comple |
| 12:40.57 | superkai64 | te operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux. |
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| 12:41.46 | LordCreepity | so i have a compaq presario c300, and my wifi is not working, I know i need correct firmware, but all searches came up with ubuntu fixes, not ones for debian. |
| 12:41.46 | themill | Superkai64: you seem to be in the wrong channel... |
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| 12:42.01 | Superkai64 | what channel do i belong in than? |
| 12:42.04 | ychaouche | Hello |
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| 12:42.33 | themill | Superkai64: this channel is for Debian user support. |
| 12:42.44 | ychaouche | Some script I need is requiring java to be installed. Should I install sun or openjdk ? |
| 12:43.06 | Superkai64 | well i came here to learn how to fork debian |
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| 12:43.09 | SirLagz | ychaouche: if it works with openjdk, then install openjdk |
| 12:43.12 | themill | ychaouche: sun (oracle) java isn't anywhere in debian |
| 12:43.12 | jelly | ychaouche: openjdk is packaged already |
| 12:43.28 | ychaouche | themill: maybe not anymore, I can still find it in 6 |
| 12:43.46 | themill | ychaouche: not really -- you have an old crappy vulnerable version there. |
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| 12:44.37 | ychaouche | themill: https://gist.github.com/ychaouche/2a31e0b3b397e3f6f5e8 |
| 12:44.39 | jelly | I wonder if it'd've been better if debian had removed it using a forced upgrade like ubuntu did |
| 12:44.58 | themill | ychaouche: yes, an old crappy vulnerable version. |
| 12:45.22 | themill | jelly: rm-ing the package would be better than uploading an empty package "update" |
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| 12:46.17 | willow | Hi, I am running a debian 7.7 web server. Authentication is managed by LDAP on another server but today none of our users can log in. The error message is "invalid user" - pretty standard. However they can log into other servers so it's not an LDAP problem. This morning, checking the dpkg.log file, I can see that something or someone initiated an upgrade to, amongst other things libpam and ldapd. This particular line worries me: "2015-01-12 07:4 |
| 12:46.18 | jelly | themill: but the latter forced their users to take notice |
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| 12:46.53 | themill | jelly: or they missed it and hosed their working set-ups. |
| 12:47.07 | jelly | then they REALLY took notice! |
| 12:47.33 | themill | ,i debian-security-support sid |
| 12:47.34 | judd | Package debian-security-support (admin, optional) in sid/i386: Debian security support coverage checker. Version: 2014.12.17; Size: 19.0k; Installed: 207k |
| 12:47.39 | themill | (is a much better approach) |
| 12:48.46 | jelly | ,v debian-security-support |
| 12:48.47 | judd | Package: debian-security-support on i386 -- wheezy-backports: 2014.09.07~bpo70+1; squeeze-security-lts: 2014.12.17~bpo60+1; sid: 2014.12.17; jessie: 2014.12.17 |
| 12:49.00 | jelly | not if it's unpresent |
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| 13:05.09 | Megaf | This is very interesting. http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Rsync_with_Google_Drive |
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| 13:13.15 | bitonic | I'm using gnome3 and applications freeze for a second or two when I right click on things, or when tooltips show up. this includes chrome, firefox, and evince for sure |
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| 13:13.37 | bitonic | now that I'm trying, also gogglesmm, which is not a GTK application |
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| 13:16.02 | darthanubis | bitonic, also if you go to the bring up the taskbar thats hidden below too many times |
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| 13:16.27 | darthanubis | the way to unfreeze is to alt-tab to any app |
| 13:16.28 | bitonic | darthanubis: ? the hidden taskbar seems file |
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| 13:16.57 | darthanubis | go to it and right click a taskbared app a few times |
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| 13:18.52 | bitonic | darthanubis: mhm, nothing happens. anyway, do you have a bug or something referring to that problem? |
| 13:18.56 | bitonic | the tooltip freezing |
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| 13:20.36 | blaubarschbube | hi. i am trying to use /usr/lib/ssl/misc/CA.pl to create a CA and then some certs. "/usr/lib/ssl/misc/CA.pl -newca" runs fine. "/usr/lib/ssl/misc/CA.pl -newreq" as well. but when i want to sign it with "/usr/lib/ssl/misc/CA.pl -sign" i got the foolowing error: |
| 13:20.37 | blaubarschbube | unable to load CA private key |
| 13:20.37 | blaubarschbube | 139698377754280:error:0906D06C:PEM routines:PEM_read_bio:no start line:pem_lib.c:703:Expecting: ANY PRIVATE KEY |
| 13:20.37 | blaubarschbube | Signed certificate is in newcert.pem |
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| 13:21.13 | blaubarschbube | sry, didnt know that pasting 3 lines is flooding |
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| 13:21.31 | *** topic/#debian by abrotman -> Jessie frozen: /msg dpkg jessie freeze | wheezy released: /msg dpkg squeeze->wheezy | current point release: /msg dpkg 7.8 | NO FLOOD: /msg dpkg paste | /msg bots NOT people | offtopic: #debian-offtopic | testing/unstable: #debian-next (irc.oftc.net) | chanlogs: /msg dpkg irclog |
| 13:21.34 | petn-randall | blaubarschbube: Check the topic. |
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| 13:21.56 | blaubarschbube | petn-randall, checked |
| 13:22.04 | abrotman | petn-randall: mistab? |
| 13:22.18 | petn-randall | abrotman: nope |
| 13:22.25 | Beeblebrox-BSD | I have deb-jes-8 as virtualbox guest. static IP (address, netmask, gateway) defined in /etc/network/interfaces. Guests are on vboxnet0 (host-only). The Deb guest cannot ping nor has any network function, but sometimes when I restart networking or do something else, the VM guest is able to locate gateway and beyond. I have Win and BSD guests and none of them have this problem. |
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| 13:22.53 | abrotman | oh right, i thought the other guy was on jessie |
| 13:22.58 | Megaf | SynrG: I'm running a process in foreground, I'd like to send it to background and keep it running when I close the terminal window, is that possible? |
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| 13:23.17 | petn-randall | blaubarschbube: "Expecting: ANY PRIVATE KEY" sounds like you should be providing a private key, but there's none there. |
| 13:23.59 | blaubarschbube | petn-randall, the file exists as configured in /usr/lib/ssl/openssl.cnf |
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| 13:24.35 | petn-randall | blaubarschbube: Maybe a typo in the file? |
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| 13:25.16 | blaubarschbube | the config is untouched. when i run "find ./ -name cacert.pem" i got "./demoCA/cacert.pem" |
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| 13:25.52 | Megaf | Can anyone help me with my question? |
| 13:25.59 | SPF | !ask |
| 13:26.00 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 13:26.03 | blaubarschbube | aaaarggh... petn-randall your right, its a typo. sorry for wasting your time |
| 13:26.13 | Megaf | SPF: I'm no newbie... |
| 13:26.23 | Megaf | is SPF a bot? |
| 13:26.25 | Megaf | lol |
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| 13:26.55 | SPF|Cloud | thought it was meant for me :p |
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| 13:27.21 | heaumer_ | Megaf: try nohup |
| 13:27.23 | pessoa | blaubarschbube ... sounds like some rare guest from Spongebob Squarepants |
| 13:27.50 | heaumer_ | ah, it's already running and you want to bg it? |
| 13:27.58 | blaubarschbube | pessoa, :) |
| 13:28.08 | heaumer_ | if so, ^Z to stop it, followed by bg to restart it in the background |
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| 13:28.49 | Megaf | well, the answer to my question is Ctrl + Z then typing bg |
| 13:28.57 | heaumer_ | ok |
| 13:29.00 | Megaf | that kept the process running on background |
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| 13:29.50 | av0idz | hello, guys |
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| 13:31.36 | av0idz | i have my eth0 interface with an ip address in a subnet now i added an ip from another subnet "ip addr add 10.0.0.10/32 dev eth0" but i cant ping that one ... how do i add a specific route for that ip ? i dont want to change my default gateway? |
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| 13:31.41 | av0idz | any thoughts someone ? |
| 13:32.17 | av0idz | i read that that adding ips with sub interfaces like eth0:0 is deprecated |
| 13:32.21 | av0idz | im on wheezy |
| 13:33.10 | abrotman | av0idz: man route (just don't make it the default) |
| 13:33.18 | Beeblebrox-BSD | av0idz: "route add" see "man route" |
| 13:33.55 | av0idz | okay thanks i will have a look! |
| 13:34.28 | vladuke | av0idz: try to change netmask from 32 to 24. |
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| 13:35.20 | aLmostHumAn | hello |
| 13:35.44 | aLmostHumAn | how can i check if i have the nvidia graphic drivers installed? |
| 13:35.49 | aLmostHumAn | I've just set up the system |
| 13:35.54 | willow | if no one replied to my question should I repost it and/or rephrase it? |
| 13:35.57 | epsilon | lspci |
| 13:36.03 | aLmostHumAn | thanks |
| 13:36.17 | epsilon | it should tell you the name of chipset |
| 13:36.21 | aLmostHumAn | ok |
| 13:36.23 | aLmostHumAn | but the drivers? |
| 13:36.30 | aLmostHumAn | i have nvidia ion2 here |
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| 13:36.37 | aLmostHumAn | asus eeepc 1201PN |
| 13:36.39 | epsilon | wiki.debia.org -> nvidia |
| 13:36.43 | aLmostHumAn | thanks |
| 13:36.47 | aLmostHumAn | :D |
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| 13:37.08 | epsilon | ah, google for eeepc and debian, there are various howtos |
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| 13:38.17 | jelly | aLmostHumAn: if you think you've installed them from packages, aptitude search '~i ?source-package(nvidia-graphics-drivers)' |
| 13:38.58 | aLmostHumAn | jelly, epsilon: if i havent installed any drivers yet, i dont have the graphic card drivers do i? |
| 13:39.29 | epsilon | you probably have some default (nuveau?) |
| 13:40.48 | epsilon | but usually you won#t need closed source driver from nvidi... thats only if you have 3D-aming card and you want the full feature |
| 13:41.12 | darthanubis | bitonic, sorry I do not |
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| 13:50.29 | adhok | morning all. Any package maintainers on that could give me a bit of guidance? I'm digging through the debian-policy manual and I can't find anything specific to large specialized packages that use /opt/. In the FHS it seems like it is allowed but I just want to make sure for debian that it's ok. Also if a package requires a special user be created (with a home directory) is this frowned upon? |
| 13:50.46 | Teduardo | does anyone know why preseed always stops at !! configure the keyboard |
| 13:52.19 | jelly | adhok: /opt is supposed to be used by third party packages. The distro packages follow FHS and put their files to appropriate places under /etc, /usr, /var... |
| 13:52.20 | petn-randall | adhok: If it's a package for inclusion in Debian, it should ship with anything in /opt/. For 3rd party packages, this is completely fine. Those packages don't need to adhere to the Debian policy, anyway ;) |
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| 13:52.35 | jelly | petn-randall: should not* ? |
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| 13:55.05 | petn-randall | jelly: Yes, indeed. adhok, what jelly said. Worst typo ever. |
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| 13:55.13 | adhok | gotcha. Right now it's a third party app but we'd really like to make it an extra package if feasible. Writing a roadmap on how to get to A->B. |
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| 13:55.26 | adhok | petn-randall: I understood what you meant :P |
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| 13:56.48 | petn-randall | adhok: If you plan on including it in Debian at some point, you can hang out in #debian-mentors on irc.oftc.net, where all the other people who package are. |
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| 13:57.28 | adhok | petn-randall: thanks I'll head over that way :) |
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| 14:00.09 | L0aD1nG | am I the only one getting a "Not Found" error on http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.7.0/i386/ |
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| 14:00.14 | L0aD1nG | ?? |
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| 14:00.46 | Cyis | L0aD1nG: try 7.8.0 |
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| 14:01.03 | Cyis | L0aD1nG: or even better... current |
| 14:01.04 | brotherBox | Hi everyone. Is is possible to blacklist more than one package via a regular expression or at least simple wildcards? |
| 14:01.35 | petn-randall | brotherBox: How are you blacklisting the packages? |
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| 14:02.11 | brotherBox | petn-randall: so var I pin the version in /etc/apt/preferences. |
| 14:02.14 | brotherBox | *so far |
| 14:02.56 | L0aD1nG | Cyis: I just pressed the javascript button for getting the cd image for i386 |
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| 14:03.02 | L0aD1nG | end got that error |
| 14:03.08 | L0aD1nG | defaulted on 7.7 |
| 14:03.17 | L0aD1nG | works with 7.8 now... |
| 14:04.18 | Cyis | sounds like a bad link button then |
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| 14:14.12 | shingouz | how can i make grub install *without* uuid on a chrooted /dev/sdb1 so that when the drive is installed alone as /dev/sda the frigging thing would boot? |
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| 14:14.47 | phy1729 | why not use UUIDs? That's what they're for. |
| 14:14.49 | Stummi | shingouz, why wihtout UUID? |
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| 14:15.12 | Stummi | actually grub doesn't know anything about the unix style device naming |
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| 14:17.21 | petn-randall | shingouz: What phy1729 & Stummi said: UUIDs are just for that job, why not use them? |
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| 14:17.55 | subzero79 | if is chrooted is gonna get installed there |
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| 14:18.22 | subzero79 | youre probably missing the bind for proc, dev sys |
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| 14:19.02 | shingouz | subzero79: proc, dev and sys are bind mounted on the chroot and show on mount |
| 14:19.10 | subzero79 | so whats the error? |
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| 14:19.55 | Stummi | his OS is installed on sdb but he want install grub as it would be sda and only boot from sda |
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| 14:20.24 | shingouz | subzero79: etc/default/grub tells update-grub to disable uuid but boot/grub/grub.cfg still shows grub would use the uuid for everything |
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| 14:20.43 | Stummi | shingouz, whats wrong with UUIDs? |
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| 14:21.23 | ewet | HI, what is debians preferred way of showing changelogs? I need those for server upgrades but `apt-get changelog <package>` was pretty much comppletely useless (http://sprunge.us/cQHe) |
| 14:21.45 | shingouz | Stummi: because when the system eventually gets moved, it will barf again. i have tried this too many times with the uuid's to keep on fighting it |
| 14:21.45 | petn-randall | ewet: Why is that useless? |
| 14:21.58 | tibl | Hi all, I'd like to try out Debian but I can't seem to download the small cd iso. It's not found for me at http://gensho.acc.umu.se/debian-cd/7.7.0/amd64/iso-cd/debian-7.7.0-amd64-netinst.iso . Is there a list of mirrors I can try instead? |
| 14:22.26 | ewet | petn-randall: I'd prefer you would read it first ... |
| 14:22.37 | Stummi | shiin, just run update-grub2 after moving your system |
| 14:22.44 | subzero79 | https://www.debian.org/mirror/list |
| 14:23.02 | petn-randall | shingouz: If you don't change anything on the device, the UUIDs will stay the same. They were invented for just your problem! |
| 14:23.07 | LincKraker | http://saimei.acc.umu.se/debian-cd/7.8.0/amd64/iso-cd/debian-7.8.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
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| 14:24.03 | petn-randall | ewet: Read it, still not getting what makes it useless. Maybe try to elaborate what you want to do with it? |
| 14:24.13 | shingouz | petn-randall: if i do not change anything on the device. as in the host computer that the drive is plugged into via usb right now. and when i slap the drive into the original machine it is supposed to run.... fun ensues |
| 14:24.21 | Cyis | ewet: what are you expecting? that *IS* the deban/changelog |
| 14:24.47 | tibl | LincKraker: that works! Is 7.8 the latest stable version of Debian? |
| 14:25.04 | LincKraker | tibl: yes |
| 14:25.19 | petn-randall | tibl: See /topic |
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| 14:26.03 | Cyis | tibl: When in doubt... http://ftp.acc.umu.se/debian-cd/current/amd64/iso-cd/ |
| 14:26.58 | LincKraker | tibl: i don't think all of the links have been updated yet since 7.8 was released over the weekend |
| 14:27.01 | tibl | Cyis: that link doesn't load anything for me |
| 14:27.03 | ewet | petn-randall, Cyis: no you didn't: these packages have been updated _recently_ which is not reflected at all -- also most of them haven't even been found. The original command was looking for several packages (apt apt-utils base-files binutils debian-archive-keyring file libapt-inst1.5 libapt-pkg4.12 libcurl3 libcurl3-gnutls libmagic1 libssl-dev libssl-doc libssl1.0.0 linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 linux-libc-dev openssl tzdata) all of which |
| 14:27.11 | tibl | Ah I see, 7.8 is really new |
| 14:27.19 | Stummi | shingouz, thats exactly how it works |
| 14:27.22 | ewet | only two of them haven even been found none of which with recent changelogs |
| 14:27.29 | Stummi | if it doesn't work you did something wrong |
| 14:27.31 | Cyis | tibl: it should go to a web page that lists the current ISOs |
| 14:27.54 | Stummi | something which hasn't to do with uid vs physical id in your grub |
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| 14:29.24 | petn-randall | ewet: Every installed package has the up-to-date changelog in /usr/share/doc/<packagename>/changelog.Debian.gz. |
| 14:30.16 | petn-randall | ewet: You can use apt-listchanges to show all changes before the upgrade process. |
| 14:30.43 | shingouz | Stummi: nevermind |
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| 14:32.32 | ewet | petn-randall: I highly doubt that seeing what I've seen -- it seems to me that the changelogs are not always maintained. Or do they fail to propagate through the mirrors? also: what's the difference between `apt-get changelog` and `apt-listchanges`? I'd prefer not to install yet another package. |
| 14:33.00 | abrotman | the changelogs are in the package, not the mirror |
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| 14:39.24 | ewet | abrotman: well then they are not maintained properly because I've seen changelogs with their last entry 2013. which brings me to my original question: how are you guys checking on changes? or do you just trust the maintainers completely?! |
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| 14:41.12 | DammitJim | is there bootable drive piece of software that can help me format a hard drive? |
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| 14:42.05 | LincKraker | http://gparted.org/livecd.php |
| 14:42.06 | epsilon | any live linux, then dd or shred |
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| 14:44.04 | adilix | hi all |
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| 14:45.03 | adilix | i did "apt-get update & apt-get upgrade & apt-get dist-upgrade" but my system wasnt updated to 7.8, did i made something wrong |
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| 14:45.12 | abrotman | ewet: changelog only affects source, not a recompile |
| 14:45.24 | DammitJim | thanks LincKraker |
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| 14:45.30 | LincKraker | adilix: you might be using a mirror that hasn't upgraded yet |
| 14:45.32 | LincKraker | DammitJim: no problem |
| 14:45.41 | LincKraker | adilix: updated not upgraded.. |
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| 14:46.03 | adilix | hmm if i am right i use ftp.de.debian.org , any better suggfestion? |
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| 14:46.18 | tomodachi | adilix: if you are in germany it should be good |
| 14:46.24 | adilix | no i am not |
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| 14:46.34 | babilen | adilix: http.debian.net |
| 14:46.42 | tomodachi | adilix: when check for a mirror closer to where you are |
| 14:46.50 | LincKraker | adilix: you should choose a mirror thats closer to your location |
| 14:46.54 | babilen | dpkg: tell adilix -about http.debian.net |
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| 14:47.01 | adilix | babilen you mean ftp.debian.net not http |
| 14:47.08 | babilen | adilix: No, I don't |
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| 14:49.02 | babilen | I quite specifically want you to use http.debian.net which is a metamirror that picks the "best" mirror for you automagically |
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| 14:52.46 | adilix | i have changede from ft.de.debian.org to ftp.debian.org |
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| 14:53.25 | adilix | same thing nothing is updating, anyone know which server is up todate for dist upgrade |
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| 14:54.18 | LincKraker | adilix: are you doing apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade? or just one & ? |
| 14:54.44 | LincKraker | if so you might be trying to dist-upgrade while you update the package list |
| 14:54.46 | subzero79 | n |
| 14:54.57 | adilix | LincKraker i make firts apt-get update then apt-get upgrade and then apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 14:55.12 | LincKraker | okay |
| 14:55.35 | adilix | it says so in the wiki |
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| 14:56.50 | adilix | do you know which is the better server for upgrade |
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| 14:57.42 | LincKraker | adilix: i use http://mirror.cc.columbia.edu/debian/ |
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| 15:01.41 | adilix | same thing with columbia nothing is upgrading |
| 15:02.22 | LincKraker | adilix: lsb_release -a says you're still on 7.7? |
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| 15:02.59 | adilix | hmm it says 7.8 , but i odnt have the new kernel |
| 15:03.02 | adilix | 3.2.65 |
| 15:03.07 | adilix | stil the old |
| 15:03.21 | jelly | adilix: what is the version of linux-image-$(uname -r) package? |
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| 15:04.07 | subzero79 | .65 is the latest for 7.8 |
| 15:04.19 | subzero79 | i saw that on the 7.8 changelog today |
| 15:04.24 | abrotman | judd: kernels |
| 15:04.25 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.18.0-trunk-686-pae (3.18-1~exp1); sid: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt2-1); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt2-1); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt2-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.65-1); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.63-2+deb7u2~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze6) |
| 15:04.36 | adilix | uname -r gives 3.2.0-4-486 |
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| 15:04.41 | abrotman | adilix: that's correct |
| 15:04.58 | andhoy | tried the new jessie installer yesterday, netinstall. Very nice work! and then I added non-free's + multimedia repos and aptitude install kodi, everything worked perfectly, awesome work! <3 |
| 15:05.03 | abrotman | adilix: cat /proc/version |
| 15:05.28 | adilix | aaa |
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| 15:10.29 | adilix | ok thx for help cya bye bye |
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| 15:22.08 | anddam | hi, is there a third party repository for Apache Bloodhound? |
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| 15:24.39 | Elirips | Hello. If I changed the IP address and the hostname of my machine, what else besides /etc/network/interface, /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts is affected? I just see that for example exim and apache now take several minutes to start (failing to lookup the hostname) ? |
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| 15:28.12 | Shadow_7 | Elirips: you'll likely need to restart services that use them. aka reboot (m$ methodology) |
| 15:28.25 | Elirips | And I also see things like 'Starting MTA:hostname --fqdn did not return a fully qualified name, dc_minimaldns will not work. Please fix your /etc/hosts setup'. But my /etc/hosts is fixed (has only two entries: one for localhost and one for 127.0.0.1 as 'machine-name') |
| 15:28.31 | Elirips | Shadow_7: I did restart |
| 15:28.35 | Shadow_7 | use them and running before the change |
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| 15:28.56 | Elirips | Note: There is no DSN available for this machine |
| 15:29.08 | Elirips | best would be to disable all DSN stuff |
| 15:29.12 | Shadow_7 | note: fqdn == x.x.x |
| 15:29.15 | Elirips | it shall never try to lookup anything |
| 15:29.20 | Elirips | as it will always fail |
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| 15:29.26 | Shadow_7 | I tend towards name.bogus.bogus |
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| 15:29.41 | bogus- | I like it |
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| 15:32.38 | Shadow_7 | and I assume you mean DNS. which /etc/hosts provides locally |
| 15:33.03 | Elirips | yes, I mean DSN :) |
| 15:33.06 | Shadow_7 | although not used by all things that need dns |
| 15:33.13 | Elirips | But there is no fqdn available for this machine |
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| 15:33.49 | Elirips | oops |
| 15:33.55 | Elirips | typo in /etc/hosts .. sorry |
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| 15:47.22 | roger21 | hey |
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| 15:48.00 | roger21 | what is the apt-get install option to add for the things to ask confirmation before instaling single package |
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| 15:48.52 | roger21 | it asks when there are dependencies, but not when there aren't |
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| 15:51.24 | daemonkeeper | Why would it? That's a tautology, by giving the package name you already told apt that you want to install it. |
| 15:51.49 | roger21 | ok |
| 15:51.52 | roger21 | legit |
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| 15:53.51 | roger21 | i was actually trying to know if the package will actually need dependencies and even if not, i'm not sure if i want to install it |
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| 15:54.24 | roger21 | because apt-cache show won't actually tell me if it needs dependencies or not |
| 15:54.31 | bonjurkes | does anyone here ever used psutil ? |
| 15:54.37 | bonjurkes | Im trying to make this psdash and psutil run |
| 15:54.51 | paultag | roger21: yes, but you see, you're asking it to install, not evaluate its installability on your system :) |
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| 15:55.04 | roger21 | yep ok |
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| 15:55.31 | roger21 | what would be the command then to know if it needs dependencies ? |
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| 15:55.45 | paultag | you could -s it |
| 15:55.46 | roger21 | except doing a dry run install |
| 15:55.56 | roger21 | :) |
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| 15:56.16 | jordanm | apt-cache show pkg |
| 15:56.24 | roger21 | and then what |
| 15:56.37 | roger21 | i do a policy on each listed packages |
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| 15:56.41 | jordanm | but that won't show if you already have some depends/recommends installed like -s would |
| 15:56.48 | roger21 | and the a show on each not installed ? |
| 15:56.59 | jordanm | roger21: no, if you want to go that far, just use -s |
| 15:57.22 | roger21 | ok so there are no command or option excpt -s ??? |
| 15:57.42 | jordanm | what's wrong with -s? |
| 15:57.48 | roger21 | nothing |
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| 15:59.15 | roger21 | if there was an option to for for confirmation that would make more sense i think |
| 15:59.25 | roger21 | than doing a full dry-run |
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| 15:59.42 | roger21 | s/for/ask |
| 15:59.54 | roger21 | no |
| 15:59.58 | roger21 | force* |
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| 16:00.48 | roger21 | like there is a -i for mv or cp |
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| 16:00.57 | roger21 | that make sense |
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| 16:01.14 | roger21 | why wouldn't there one for apt-get install |
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| 16:02.49 | Shadow_7 | there is -d for download only. and -y? for yes to all |
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| 16:03.18 | roger21 | i don't want to download |
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| 16:04.17 | petn-randall | roger21: If more than the single package you selected needs to be installed, it'll automatically ask. |
| 16:04.48 | roger21 | i know |
| 16:05.05 | roger21 | i want it to ask even if there are no other package |
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| 16:06.13 | petn-randall | roger21: I guess for that particular problem there's no solution yet. |
| 16:06.23 | roger21 | ok |
| 16:06.40 | roger21 | well -s is the solution |
| 16:06.52 | roger21 | but a -i would be nice too |
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| 16:08.02 | jordanm | roger21: file a wishlist bug |
| 16:08.14 | roger21 | sure |
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| 16:12.56 | aphoriser | Is there anyway I can pipe / send "passphrase" as part of > ssh-add ? |
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| 16:24.02 | llama052 | any package that shows alerts at login for things found in logs ? |
| 16:24.23 | llama052 | for instance if someone was hammering your ssh port, when you login it would give you an alert? |
| 16:24.39 | llama052 | I thought there was a feature like this, but for the life of me I can't remember |
| 16:24.49 | petn-randall | llama052: You could configure an IDS to do that. |
| 16:24.50 | anddam | is there a "auth_digest" apache module in debian's repository? |
| 16:25.03 | anddam | I cannot find it using aptitude |
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| 16:27.10 | llama052 | petn-randall, it's for an off-site server, we only have access to it via SSH, and it'll be in china, so I want to know things :D |
| 16:27.25 | llama052 | I guess I could do an ossec-server on it |
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| 16:37.56 | petn-randall | llama052: You usually want monitoring for such things. Something hammering the SSH port I don't call noteworthy, I'd call it "another day exposed to the internet". fail2ban can block such attempts. |
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| 16:41.08 | user15 | want to instal debian on an efi boot system with grub on a usb stick to avoid the other partitions. that would be OK until i install grub-efi-amd64 to make it bootable from the HDD. Can someone help describe the process needed? |
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| 16:43.16 | jhutchins | llama052: logwatch, although it's difficult to tune/customize. |
| 16:43.25 | jhutchins | llama052: Don't run ssh on port 22. |
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| 16:43.56 | jhutchins | llama052: ... especially if you don't have any other access. |
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| 16:45.11 | llama052 | jhutchins, yeah was going to do key based ssh, different port, disable root on ssh, use ufw to block everything else |
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| 16:45.18 | llama052 | logwatch! that was it |
| 16:45.21 | llama052 | <3 |
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| 16:45.52 | llama052 | hmm fail2ban useless with key based ssh? or should I go ahead and do it just cause |
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| 16:47.23 | jhutchins | llama052: I don't use it. You'll still get password attempts, but moving the port and possibly iptables throttling would work. Throttling will catch key-based attempts althoug I've never heard of that, it would probably only catch errors from authorized users. |
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| 16:49.00 | llama052 | ubuntu ssh out of the box pretty secure? |
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| 16:49.58 | llama052 | Just realized I asked that in the debian channel... |
| 16:50.05 | llama052 | this is awkward |
| 16:51.39 | aphoriser | I'm guessing there is no way of piping $ echo -e "\n" | ssh-add |
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| 16:52.03 | aphoriser | Would like to have passphrase bypassed - |
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| 16:55.39 | SirLagz | aphoriser: does the key have a passphrase ? |
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| 16:57.00 | aphoriser | SirLagz, no sir |
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| 16:57.07 | SirLagz | just hit enter then to bypass passphrase |
| 16:57.43 | aphoriser | SirLagz, but I'm trying to have it as part of .bashrc - script so as to skip any user input |
| 16:57.48 | SirLagz | ah right |
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| 16:58.40 | aphoriser | SirLagz, wondering if there is a method of doing it without resorting to sshpass or some other packages |
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| 16:59.21 | SirLagz | aphoriser: wait...start again. What are you trying to do ? |
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| 17:00.40 | aphoriser | SirLagz, > eval $(ssh-agent -s) && ssh-add my_key < echo -e "\n" something as such |
| 17:00.58 | SirLagz | but why are you trying to do that ? |
| 17:01.03 | SirLagz | are you trying to automatically add a key ? |
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| 17:02.29 | aphoriser | SirLagz, I'm doing this for a user with deployment rights - thus when loged in I'd like to have - ssh-agent & ssh-add done |
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| 17:03.17 | SirLagz | still not sure what you're trying to achieve...guess I'm just too tired to get it at the moment lol |
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| 17:04.26 | aphoriser | SirLagz, well if I do ssh-agent ... I need to add keys right? - so would like to by-pass "Enter passphrase" part for those being added so user is not prompted for any input |
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| 17:06.25 | McErroneous | Hi, i am missing older iso-files of debian distributions (3.1 / 4.0 / 5.0) especially the dvd iso-files are not present in the official download locations.... |
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| 17:07.03 | noone_0 | hi |
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| 17:07.07 | KaaK | how can I manipulate the system time? |
| 17:07.22 | KaaK | everytime I use `date` to set it, something it setting back to the correct time |
| 17:07.22 | McErroneous | KaaK: date -s "10:15" |
| 17:07.39 | KaaK | as far as I can tell, NTP is not running ... |
| 17:07.44 | KaaK | its driving me nuts |
| 17:07.49 | jelly | KaaK: make sure any ntp services are stopped |
| 17:08.05 | noone_0 | is there a way to fix the pm-suspend problem introduced by the new kernel update ? (the update of last saturday ) |
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| 17:08.39 | KaaK | are there any other common services that will manipulate the system time? |
| 17:08.41 | jelly | KaaK: also verify there are no related cron jobs as well. If this is a VM, it might have guest additions enabled and clock syncing with host |
| 17:09.15 | noone_0 | since that update pm-suspend no longer resumes .. If i close the laptop it suspens ok, but when i press a key it doesnt resume the previous state ... it boots the system from zero |
| 17:09.17 | jelly | KaaK: how much does it take for the clock to reset back to correct time? |
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| 17:10.35 | KaaK | jelly, just a few seconds -- It's in a VirtualBox VM with guest addons. I'm nearly certain you're right about it syncing the clock behind my back |
| 17:10.58 | jelly | noone_0: it's a known issue with that kernel, will be fixed asap |
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| 17:11.24 | jelly | KaaK: well then. I _think_ you can disable that... |
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| 17:12.48 | noone_0 | jelly: is there a bug number, so that i can see what's the problem about? Also .. wanst there a grub command to add in the cmdline of the boot? something like "resume" or "restore" ? should i add it, in grub.conf? |
| 17:12.48 | user15 | want to install debian on an efi boot system with grub on a usb stick to avoid the other partitions. that would be OK until i install grub-efi-amd64 to make it bootable from the HDD. Can someone help describe the process needed? |
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| 17:13.45 | jelly | noone_0: http://womble.decadent.org.uk/blog/linux-suspendresume-regression-in-debian-78.html |
| 17:13.56 | noone_0 | jelly: thanks ;) |
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| 17:14.46 | jelly | ah, I see he's put up a temporary build with a fix |
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| 17:15.33 | noone_0 | jelly: cant i use apt-get to get the old kernel ? |
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| 17:16.30 | jelly | noone_0: you could try look it up at snapshot.debian.org, but if you're going to install something, might as well be a fix from the kernel maintainer |
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| 17:17.31 | jelly | (bwh is part of the kernel maintainers team in debian) |
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| 17:18.54 | livinskull | Any source of the exact debian patches for a specific package release? (speaking of php 5.4.36-0+deb7u1, which seems to break ZendPdf) |
| 17:18.55 | noone_0 | thanks |
| 17:19.24 | paultag | livinskull: yes, http://sources.debian.net/ |
| 17:19.32 | paultag | livinskull: debian/patches/* contains all patches |
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| 17:19.55 | paultag | http://sources.debian.net/src/php5/5.4.36-0%2Bdeb7u1/debian/patches/ |
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| 17:20.35 | livinskull | uh.. thanks |
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| 17:20.47 | paultag | you're welcome |
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| 17:42.18 | KaaK | any advice on validating cron jobs? |
| 17:42.31 | KaaK | I'm maninpulating the system time to get jobs to run |
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| 17:42.41 | KaaK | but it doesnt seem to phase cron |
| 17:42.49 | LincKraker | kaak make it create a file |
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| 17:43.35 | LincKraker | KaaK: vaildating for testing? or all the time? it should send you an email |
| 17:44.08 | KaaK | sorry, should be more precise -- the validation is that it is infact triggered at a specific time |
| 17:44.42 | LincKraker | email and file creation has time stamps |
| 17:44.45 | KaaK | im manipulating the system clock (in a VM) to different times to make sure it works properly, but cron doesn't seem to care much about the system time |
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| 17:45.31 | KaaK | LincKraker, the problem isn't so much job output, more of `does my crontab really run at 6:24, 6:49, and 7:00` |
| 17:46.03 | wblankenship | Overwhelmed by the scale of the debian project. Looking to help maintain a few packages in the ecosystem, any reading material recommended? |
| 17:46.24 | KaaK | ideally, id rather not have to wait days or weeks or months to verify the entry |
| 17:46.35 | LincKraker | KaaK: i get that. if you want to see the time it runs you can have a file created at the start of the job. the time stamp on the file will tell you when the job starts. the email at the end will tell you when it finished |
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| 17:47.17 | jhutchins | LincKraker: The point is to manipulate the clock so that it triggers cron to launch the job. |
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| 17:47.51 | cjbirk | Is there a way to install 32-bit libraries on debian? |
| 17:47.58 | jhutchins | KaaK: I'm not real familiar with what VMware does to sync the clock, but VMtools might very well be the culprit. |
| 17:48.00 | paultag | apt-get install libfoo1:i386 |
| 17:48.03 | paultag | if it's multiarch |
| 17:48.05 | paultag | otherwise no ;) |
| 17:48.15 | KaaK | the `thing` under test is not the job, or how long it takes, but rather the cron settings e.g.' */5 * * * *' |
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| 17:48.40 | moldy | hi |
| 17:48.43 | cjbirk | paultag: how do I know if im running multiarch? I installed the 64 bit version of deb |
| 17:49.05 | jhutchins | KaaK: Clock drift on VMs used to be a serious problem (ca 2007). |
| 17:49.08 | KaaK | jhutchins, that was infact messing with me earlier, but I've got the VM playing nicely now. I can manipulate the system clock to my hearts content without external agents correcting it back |
| 17:49.12 | paultag | cjbirk: https://wiki.debian.org/Multiarch â you likely are -- Wheezy has support, so as long as you're not on oldstable, you should be fine |
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| 17:49.34 | paultag | cjbirk: you might need to run dpkg --add-architecture i386 # though |
| 17:49.56 | cjbirk | thank you kind sir. |
| 17:50.01 | paultag | much love |
| 17:50.03 | moldy | i have set up a reprepro repository. "apt-get udpate" shows that it reads the repository information, but i cannot install packages from the repo (they are not found). any hints on how to debug this? |
| 17:50.59 | paultag | moldy: check /dists/, and check over the InRelease, and /main/binary-* files |
| 17:51.12 | paultag | moldy: ensure good sigs from the signing key, ensure files are in the right suite and component |
| 17:51.31 | cjbirk | paultag: genius. it worked. thanks again. |
| 17:51.36 | paultag | moldy: apt show the file too, see if the version is under the other one |
| 17:51.45 | paultag | erm, package |
| 17:52.01 | moldy | paultag: hmm, thanks |
| 17:52.07 | paultag | e.g. apt show desktop-base -a | grep ^Version |
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| 17:52.13 | paultag | moldy: sure enough |
| 17:52.33 | moldy | hmm, it works on some of my machines |
| 17:52.41 | paultag | erm, grep APT-Sources: |
| 17:52.47 | paultag | to see which archive each copy is from |
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| 17:53.42 | moldy | paultag: sorry, what is APT-Sources? |
| 17:54.03 | paultag | moldy: apt show foo # will show package entries for each, and include a APT-Sources: header so you know which archive each one is for |
| 17:54.10 | moldy | paultag: ahh, i think i got it: no package for amd64 |
| 17:54.13 | paultag | moldy: it could be your reprepro has a version of a package under another version |
| 17:54.16 | paultag | Ah, there you go! |
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| 17:54.37 | paultag | you can do a binary only upload of amd64 to your reprepro and process that in |
| 17:54.39 | moldy | ok, so back to my actual problem |
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| 17:55.14 | moldy | paultag: the issue i actually need to solve is: my build machines have to query the repository for the last/next version number |
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| 17:55.26 | moldy | is there an elegant way to do this? |
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| 17:56.25 | paultag | moldy: you're asking the wrong guy -- I got annoyed at this situation and wrote buildd software -- basically, properly handling that turns out to be hard ⢠-- I won't bore you with the complexities, but you can likely scan all source versions, check what it builds from the source, and scan for binaries of that same version. Anything missing needs-build. |
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| 17:56.36 | paultag | moldy: only hangup is that can lead to build cycles if it FTBFS |
| 17:56.38 | paultag | sooo |
| 17:56.50 | paultag | (or if two get the same package) |
| 17:56.57 | moldy | paultag: i don't even have source packages |
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| 17:57.06 | paultag | how do you build the debs? |
| 17:57.13 | moldy | paultag: fpm |
| 17:57.16 | paultag | euch |
| 17:57.24 | moldy | paultag: i use fpm to buld deb packages from python virtualenvs |
| 17:57.29 | paultag | well, that puts you in the "you're on your own" camp :) |
| 17:57.35 | moldy | ok, thanks anyway |
| 17:57.52 | paultag | sure neough |
| 17:57.53 | paultag | good luck |
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| 17:59.54 | livinskull | interesting. seems like that specific php version with this specific patchset behaves differently when leaving the output charset parameter of iconv() empty. Setting specific charset in php.ini solved this, but wasn't required the version before, and neither is on gentoo with the same version |
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| 18:02.24 | moldy | paultag: "reprepro ls" looks useful |
| 18:02.47 | paultag | totally, that'll let you know what the archive knows about, sure |
| 18:03.07 | moldy | should be good enough for me |
| 18:03.15 | paultag | perfect! |
| 18:03.27 | moldy | seems to be parseable even |
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| 18:07.27 | LincKraker | KaaK: did you get it figured out? |
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| 18:10.50 | bobbyr | hello all |
| 18:10.56 | KrisDouglas | Evening b |
| 18:11.00 | KrisDouglas | bobbyr, |
| 18:11.20 | bobbyr | I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask this or not, but I have a question about automated server builds |
| 18:11.56 | bobbyr | I have a fresh install of deb 7.7, and I want to use that to test a web app build |
| 18:12.19 | bobbyr | im using systemd as the init system, so I have to first install systemd-sysv and stuiff |
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| 18:12.36 | bobbyr | what's the easiest to script the installation of those inital scripts |
| 18:12.59 | bobbyr | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:13.04 | inigo | there are different ways, and all depends on your definition of "easy" |
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| 18:13.32 | inigo | you can use your own scripts if you have bash/perl/python skills, or use third party solutions as ansible,cheff, puppet, etc |
| 18:14.00 | inigo | as said, all depends on your definition of "easy" and your tolerance to third party changes |
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| 18:14.33 | bobbyr | inigo, I can do all the scripting myself, but I'm not sure how I would install something that requires a restart as a precondition automatically |
| 18:14.34 | inigo | as a start you must check appendix B of the installation manual, to automate the base system install and initial steps |
| 18:14.55 | bobbyr | inigo, thanks, I'll check that now |
| 18:15.12 | inigo | for example, use a trigger in your script |
| 18:15.21 | bobbyr | I really just need to get a couple of core packages installed (systemd-sysv, python-dev, and some others) |
| 18:15.32 | inigo | the third party tools commented, handle that things like service restarts too |
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| 18:15.45 | bobbyr | alright, thanks a lot |
| 18:15.45 | KaaK | bobbyr, you might want to look into something like docker if you're interested in controlling an applications running environment in repeatable ways |
| 18:15.52 | inigo | preseed (the appendix B) is fine to get the packages you want |
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| 18:17.15 | bobbyr | KaaK, thanks |
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| 18:17.47 | bobbyr | I have heard Docker mentioned many times as a solution to software builds |
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| 18:17.57 | bobbyr | more frequently very recently |
| 18:18.05 | bobbyr | is there a significant learning curve? |
| 18:18.08 | paultag | nope |
| 18:18.14 | KaaK | bobbyr, it depends |
| 18:18.22 | paultag | then again, I've been using Docker since it was announced 2 years ago |
| 18:18.26 | paultag | so perhaps I'm not the best judge |
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| 18:19.08 | KaaK | bobbyr, it really depends on how tightly coupled your applications is |
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| 18:19.46 | KaaK | docker really works best (with easiest learning curve) when you can seperate your app into isolated (think domain or scope) containers that run independently |
| 18:20.04 | paultag | don't think domain or scope, think process / service |
| 18:20.22 | paultag | you shouldn't dockerize an *app*, you dockerize the app runtime and the database in different containers |
| 18:20.28 | paultag | and link the or use inter-container routing |
| 18:20.40 | bobbyr | OK, well essentially I have 3 components, a web app, a queue, and an engine |
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| 18:20.50 | paultag | sounds like 3 containers :) |
| 18:21.06 | paultag | and you can share filesystem bits (volume mounts), or talk over the intra-containter network |
| 18:21.13 | paultag | I suggest rawdns (tianon/rawdns:latest) |
| 18:21.16 | KaaK | so if you're app stack has 3 or 4 moving parts (apache, mysql, etc) that are all tightly coupled you might have some difficultly getting to the 1 process/container ideal |
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| 18:21.28 | paultag | KaaK: I disagree completley |
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| 18:21.31 | paultag | and it's not hard at all |
| 18:21.37 | paultag | apache per app? No way jose |
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| 18:21.57 | bobbyr | well for instance, I have a web component that is apache, django, postgres |
| 18:22.04 | paultag | perfect |
| 18:22.12 | bobbyr | then i have a queue which is celery |
| 18:22.21 | bobbyr | then i have a stand alone engine that i call within celery |
| 18:22.22 | paultag | so you have a container for apache, unix socket to uwsgi + django (in a different container), linked to postgres (another container) |
| 18:22.43 | paultag | I do this for nginx. My ansible setup is on my github |
| 18:22.50 | paultag | https://github.com/paultag/deployment |
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| 18:23.57 | KaaK | paultag, how are you serving php and rails applications in docker? (for my own curiosity) |
| 18:24.00 | bobbyr | paultag, thanks for sharing |
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| 18:24.14 | bobbyr | question though, where do I start here? |
| 18:24.16 | paultag | KaaK: I am not, but php-ftp can do this, and I think unicorn can fit tihs model as well |
| 18:24.29 | paultag | KaaK: but those might have to proxy_pass over remote webserver rather then UNIX socket |
| 18:24.35 | paultag | but easy enough :) |
| 18:24.48 | paultag | bobbyr: I'd check out #docker and ask for help Dockerizing if you're interested! |
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| 18:25.06 | bobbyr | paultag, KaaK, thanks for the insights |
| 18:25.07 | KaaK | bobbyr, just play around with it -- its quite easy to setup in a VM and start running docker images. I run an ubuntu VM just for that |
| 18:25.18 | paultag | sudo apt-get install docker.io |
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| 18:25.26 | paultag | (for sid) |
| 18:25.34 | paultag | no backport to stable because I'm lazy |
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| 18:27.34 | noaer | hello people, i've encountered with some errors during dist-upgrade in debian testing, can you help me please? Here is the output: http://goo.gl/H0V4mV |
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| 18:29.00 | noaer | Also I found a similar bug report: http://goo.gl/VnjUc9 |
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| 18:35.12 | noaer | any1? |
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| 18:37.07 | bobbyr | so, Docker is an OS abstraction of some kind? |
| 18:37.22 | tremon | noaer: can you paste real links please? I'm not in the habit of clicking on obfuscated urls |
| 18:37.32 | centrx | noaer, The first answer on that e-mail actually has some good advice |
| 18:37.36 | paultag | bobbyr: hilariously, kinda the other way around |
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| 18:37.51 | paultag | bobbyr: docker lets you explicitly define the os/env, and let the host get abstracted away a bit |
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| 18:37.54 | paultag | bobbyr: containerization |
| 18:37.59 | centrx | noaer, I would start with that, it's basically what I would say in response to your question |
| 18:38.12 | noaer | tremon: sry about this: http://hastebin.com/isurunowed.vhdl |
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| 18:38.31 | paultag | bobbyr: so when I deploy my app on my beloved Debian, it can be run on a Fedora host :) |
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| 18:38.46 | paultag | without actually having to deal with ugly RPMs |
| 18:38.56 | bobbyr | How is this different than a VM exactly? |
| 18:39.07 | paultag | VMs bring up a virtual machine that the OS runs on |
| 18:39.14 | paultag | Containers share the same kernel, and are namespaced away |
| 18:39.26 | paultag | so, the overhead is much less, because it's just a process on the system |
| 18:39.31 | paultag | rather then an entire emulated machine |
| 18:39.31 | bobbyr | I see |
| 18:39.46 | bobbyr | so docker is a child of pid 1 |
| 18:39.46 | noaer | tremon: and here is the second one: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/01/msg00052.html |
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| 18:39.56 | paultag | bobbyr: exactly, and inside the container your app thinks its pid1 |
| 18:39.59 | paultag | but isn't actually |
| 18:40.07 | bobbyr | what is the pid 1 of something running in docker |
| 18:40.21 | paultag | whatever you define |
| 18:40.26 | paultag | usually what you're running |
| 18:40.45 | bobbyr | well, that's interesting |
| 18:40.51 | noaer | centrx: ok, I'm trying it now |
| 18:41.12 | paultag | bobbyr: totally |
| 18:41.23 | bobbyr | so I'm not actually building a new system really... im just using the binaries that come with a distro as run by docker? |
| 18:41.39 | paultag | sure |
| 18:41.40 | paultag | I do that :) |
| 18:41.42 | bobbyr | like when i say docker run /bin/sh, im not executing my hosts /bin/sh |
| 18:41.49 | paultag | right, exactly |
| 18:41.55 | paultag | it runs the bin/sh in the container image you're running |
| 18:42.01 | paultag | so, debian:stable or centos:3 |
| 18:42.14 | bobbyr | interesting |
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| 18:42.32 | smw | Hi all, I am building a debian package. The package installation is done completely by debian/install. What is the best way to make a set of symlinks during installation (during the packaging)? |
| 18:42.34 | paultag | [tag@helios:~][â 01:42 PM] ⥠docker run -it --rm debian:unstable bash |
| 18:42.34 | paultag | root@99b9ab93b20c:/# |
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| 18:42.45 | paultag | smw: I'd head over to #debian-mentors on oftc |
| 18:42.54 | smw | paultag, thanks |
| 18:42.57 | paultag | smw: there's also debian/links |
| 18:42.59 | bobbyr | so I run docker instances as a service or something, and the docker instances themselves handle the executing of binaries and whatnot in their own little userland? |
| 18:43.01 | paultag | but let's take that to mentors |
| 18:43.10 | smw | paultag, awesome, thanks |
| 18:43.13 | paultag | smw: you got it |
| 18:43.38 | paultag | bobbyr: yeah right, that's basically it - it uses kernel namespacing (cgroups, network namespace, pid namespace, etc) |
| 18:43.45 | Cyis | I've just recently started looking at docker myself |
| 18:43.49 | paultag | I have a talk about some of this from Debconf |
| 18:43.51 | paultag | let me find it |
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| 18:44.06 | wfq | hi guys |
| 18:44.10 | tharkun | How many files can a directory contain before I begin to have problems with utilities like cp, ls mv? |
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| 18:44.19 | wfq | how could I know whether http://packages.dotdeb.org wheezy-php55 all is trustworthy please? |
| 18:44.32 | paultag | bobbyr: http://meetings-archive.debian.net/pub/debian-meetings/2014/debconf14/webm/Docker_Debian.webm |
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| 18:44.55 | smw | paultag, just logged into debian mentors, thanks :-) |
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| 18:45.50 | tremon | noaer: that thread you linked has indeed all the advice that I would give you. You could try running apt-get install -f as well, but it's unlikely apt-get can recover. aptitude may be a better option, just be careful what you say Y to |
| 18:46.03 | Cyis | paultag: I'm actually sorry I missed that talk while in Portland |
| 18:46.17 | paultag | Cyis: it's alright, that's why we have videos :) |
| 18:46.27 | paultag | that room was pretty packed |
| 18:46.29 | paultag | which was flattering |
| 18:46.31 | noaer | centrx, tremon: look at this output guys: http://hastebin.com/inaditudax.vhdl |
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| 18:46.50 | Cyis | paultag: I hadn't started looking at docker yet while out there for debconf so hadn't flagged it as a talk to go to |
| 18:46.56 | tremon | noaer: and the list of many dbus processing errors was a dpkg bug and has been fixed iirc |
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| 18:47.15 | Cyis | yeah it looked like a packed house on the video |
| 18:47.16 | paultag | Cyis: ah, word |
| 18:47.19 | paultag | yeah, it was great |
| 18:47.25 | paultag | oh, food, yay |
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| 18:47.26 | paultag | back later |
| 18:47.27 | paultag | much love |
| 18:47.35 | noaer | tremon: so, what should I do exactly? |
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| 18:48.06 | bobbyr | thanks paultag |
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| 18:48.17 | tremon | noaer: run apt-get update, then aptitude -f install |
| 18:48.49 | tremon | noaer: alternatively, paste the output of apt-cache policy and apt-cache policy {,libpam-}systemd libdbus-1-3 |
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| 18:49.55 | tremon | noaer: maybe apt-cache policy dpkg apt might be helpful as well |
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| 18:50.29 | noaer1 | tremon: ouput: http://hastebin.com/cerukavale.avrasm |
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| 18:52.35 | Bierdieb_ | Hello. May i get a hint please where to start, when installing debian on a laptop and want to enable the laptop only specials like suspending on closing screen, those special keyboard layout and so on? |
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| 18:52.43 | tremon | noaer1: can you check apt-cache policy libdbus-1-3:i386 as well? |
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| 18:52.59 | lawr | I need help. |
| 18:53.19 | lawr | How do I set up a spreadsheet printout in iptables? |
| 18:53.49 | noaer1 | tremon: aptitude -f install: http://hastebin.com/paqiniyoho.md |
| 18:54.31 | tremon | aptitude is a great tool, isn't it? :| |
| 18:55.23 | noaer1 | tremon: haha, yeah ) apt-cache policy libdbus-1-3:i386: http://hastebin.com/fikunejiye.sm |
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| 18:55.34 | lawr | tremon: nah it's shit |
| 18:56.39 | tremon | noaer1: it's not clear to me why those would refuse to install. What happens when you run aptitude install libdbus-1-3{,:i386}? |
| 18:56.56 | noaer1 | lawr: look at this, in the end: http://hastebin.com/paqiniyoho.md |
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| 18:58.26 | noaer1 | tremon: trying to install libdbus with aptitude: http://hastebin.com/vohiculile.md |
| 18:58.54 | lawr | noaer1: exactl |
| 18:58.55 | lawr | y |
| 18:58.56 | lawr | it is shit |
| 18:59.23 | tremon | noaer1: type r 8 <enter>, then n <enter> at aptitude's prompt. What's the next solution it recommends? |
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| 19:00.14 | noaer1 | tremon: http://hastebin.com/selojonaha.md |
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| 19:00.59 | tremon | you still need to type N to not accept that solution, and let aptitude figure out a new solution |
| 19:01.42 | noaer1 | tremon: oh, here it is: http://hastebin.com/omukafujig.coffee |
| 19:02.13 | tremon | that looks like a much better solution. Press Y, it should upgrade libpam-systemd and install libdbus |
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| 19:04.21 | noaer1 | tremon: same dpkg error: http://hastebin.com/ucisuyusah.vhdl |
| 19:04.48 | noaer1 | tremon: should i install libdbus-1-3:amd64 and libdbus:i386 manually? |
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| 19:06.22 | tremon | you should probably upgrade dpkg first. This was a dpkg bug iirc |
| 19:06.26 | tremon | ,v dpkg |
| 19:06.27 | judd | Package: dpkg on i386 -- squeeze: 1.15.11; squeeze-security: 1.15.11; wheezy-security: 1.16.15; wheezy: 1.16.15; sid: 1.17.23; jessie: 1.17.23 |
| 19:06.47 | tremon | noaer1: make sure you have dpkg 1.17.23 |
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| 19:09.01 | noaer1 | tremon: It's weird but I have this version actually: noaer@superbook:~$ dpkg --version |
| 19:09.03 | noaer1 | Debian `dpkg' package management program version 1.17.23 (amd64). |
| 19:09.31 | tremon | hmm... that's unexpected |
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| 19:10.18 | tremon | yes, possibly apt-get download libdbus followed by dpkg -i might help solve this |
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| 19:11.10 | tremon | after that, run dpkg --configure --pending before trying any apt commands again |
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| 19:17.20 | r3n1c0n | hi |
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| 19:20.49 | tremon | noaer1: you might want to respond to bug #774124 (https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=774124). Looks like I was wrong when I thought it was solved already |
| 19:20.53 | noaer1 | tremon: I successfully did it and there are no errors now, what should I do next? |
| 19:21.15 | tremon | oh heh. nevermind that then :) |
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| 19:21.40 | tremon | noaer1: I would re-try that last aptitude install command |
| 19:22.12 | tremon | (installing both the 32 and 64 bit versions of libdbus, and upgrading libpam-systemd) |
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| 19:22.43 | jhambo | Hi All, I'm running Debian Stable and for the past few months Chromium has been unable to autocomplete passwords. Can someone recommend some steps to track down and correct the issue? Many thanks |
| 19:22.47 | tremon | when that finishes succesfully, resume the normal upgrade process |
| 19:23.32 | noaer1 | tremon: but i've installed libdbus 32 & 64 with dpkg -i just now |
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| 19:24.17 | noaer1 | tremon: now I need to do this r 8 and n stuff, right? |
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| 19:24.57 | centrx | jhambo, Check the settings under "Passwords and forms" ? |
| 19:25.22 | felix_mc | is there a channel for jessie/debian unstable? |
| 19:25.41 | centrx | !debian-next |
| 19:25.41 | dpkg | #debian-next is the channel for testing/unstable support on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net). |
| 19:25.50 | jhambo | centrx: enable autofill and offer to save are both checked. |
| 19:26.14 | tremon | noaer1: if it's still necessary, yes. I would still run the aptitude command to make sure it completes without errors |
| 19:26.51 | felix_mc | thanks |
| 19:27.25 | noaer1 | tremon: http://hastebin.com/bojuyokoje.pas |
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| 19:28.19 | ghormoon | hi, is there any way to "cat" slowly? I need to debug if a problem is caused because of pipe buffering so I'll need to pass data slowly, is there any easy way to do that? |
| 19:28.31 | noaer1 | tremon: sry for this annoying outputs I just don't know are these packages necessary or not |
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| 19:28.37 | tremon | noaer1: those removals are because of outdated dependencies. If you'd run apt-get autoremove, it would probably remove the same packages. It's just that aptitude does autoremove by default |
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| 19:33.41 | noaer1 | tremon: omg, you are the man, thank you very much, I will tattoo your nickname on my forehead :) |
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| 19:40.35 | DeaDSouL | hi, is it normal to see so many duplicates of the same process running ? |
| 19:40.53 | centrx | what process? |
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| 19:42.46 | DeaDSouL | centrx: 65 process of /usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon --no-daemon |
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| 19:43.24 | centrx | yeah that seems wrong, way too many |
| 19:43.30 | tremon | yeah, but who can say what's normal with consolekit? |
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| 19:44.46 | tremon | a ck-daemon is only spawned for local logins, right? Or can some pam plugin spawn it for ssh logins as well? |
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| 19:45.53 | DeaDSouL | what is consolekit .. and which app might caused this ? |
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| 19:46.27 | tremon | DeaDSouL: according to https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/consolekit/+bug/148454 , this might be normal (since config_max_vt is 63) |
| 19:46.45 | DeaDSouL | Trellmor: yes I'm ssh-ing it remotely |
| 19:46.57 | DeaDSouL | tremon: ^^ |
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| 19:47.34 | DeaDSouL | tremon: and yes i'm using 'exec ck-launch-session xbmc-standalone' |
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| 19:49.00 | DeaDSouL | tremon: as I edited '/etc/inittab' and modifed '1:2345:respawn:/bin/login -f xbmc tty1 </dev/tty1 2>&1' |
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| 19:49.30 | DeaDSouL | tremon: also running transmission-daemon .... that's it all |
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| 19:50.53 | bobbyr | great talk paultag |
| 19:50.59 | paultag | bobbyr: thanks, man |
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| 19:54.58 | sIRwa2 | im getting alot of: locale: Cannot set LC_CTYPE to default locale: No such file or directory over SSH. Anyone know a permanent solution? |
| 19:55.31 | sIRwa2 | the once i found only worked till you re-login |
| 19:56.07 | centrx | apt-get install locales ? |
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| 19:56.34 | tremon | or put your working solution in ~/.bashrc to make it permanent |
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| 19:59.02 | sIRwa2 | tnx tremon your sugestion pointed me to a promessing looking website |
| 19:59.55 | testdeb | hi can anyone point me some links of working bluetooth usb modules for wheezy? hank you |
| 20:00.01 | testdeb | *t |
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| 20:06.46 | LordCreepity | sorry i bailed earlier - had to go to school >.> |
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| 20:07.53 | pingfloyd | LordCreepity: how dare you! |
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| 20:11.50 | LordCreepity | so, does anyone know where i might find wifi firmware for the compaq presario c300? |
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| 20:12.05 | LordCreepity | all info i've found for it applies to ubuntu, not debian |
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| 20:12.36 | mtn | LordCreepity: did you look at the debian wiki? |
| 20:12.46 | LordCreepity | -_- |
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| 20:14.26 | nkuttler | LordCreepity: lspci -nn | grep -i net |
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| 20:17.18 | DeaDSouL | LordCreepity /msg dpkg pciid |
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| 20:26.21 | moldy | can i query an apt repository without having root on the machine that does the querying? |
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| 20:26.33 | moldy | i.e. without running apt-get update, for example |
| 20:26.33 | paultag | moldy: like apt-cache? |
| 20:26.38 | LordCreepity | wat |
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| 20:26.50 | moldy | paultag: that will give me stale information unless i also run apt-get update, right? |
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| 20:26.56 | paultag | FSVO stale |
| 20:27.00 | paultag | moldy: you can also rmadison the archive |
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| 20:28.00 | paultag | moldy: or write a tool to parse that stuff, but the apt tools expect things work a given way |
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| 20:28.05 | supaplex | if I have a screen session running, how can I "^A^C run foo" upon that session? |
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| 20:28.43 | moldy | paultag: rmadison seems to be closest to what i want -- thanks |
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| 20:28.45 | paultag | sure |
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| 20:29.54 | McErroneous | Hi , how do i download iso-images of "cdimage.debian.org" using wget ? (dvd and i386 architecture only) |
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| 20:31.28 | Shadow_7 | McErroneous: wget -c http://URL |
| 20:32.34 | Shadow_7 | middle mouse button or cntrl + shift + c will paste to the terminal depending on the xterm. |
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| 20:51.52 | moldy | paultag: ahh, rmadison does not work here, i think |
| 20:51.58 | moldy | paultag: i am talking about a private repo |
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| 20:53.39 | moldy | i should probably forget about .deb packages and just use tar.gz |
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| 20:54.35 | dondelelcaro | moldy: well, you can also query the archive using apt-cache search or apt-cache show. |
| 20:54.48 | dondelelcaro | moldy: but rmadison really is the best tool, assuming you've got dak and friends running |
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| 20:55.56 | pingfloyd | what is the reason you can't just do: sudo apt-get update && apt-cache ... |
| 20:57.25 | paultag | moldy: Ah, gotcha |
| 20:57.34 | paultag | moldy: you can write something that hits the index files involved |
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| 20:57.54 | paultag | moldy: the problem here is that apt tools use the cache to avoid too many network requests, and the cache code has to update /var/lib, which needs root |
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| 20:58.19 | paultag | moldy: good intentions all around are going to make things a bit hard on you for unpriv'd reading of the archive (I assume builders of some sort?) |
| 20:58.41 | paultag | moldy: If that was me, and I were in your place, I'd read the files that Apt reads. You should only need 1 or 2 depending on what you need |
| 20:58.48 | paultag | moldy: and debian.rfc822.* can help parse |
| 20:58.52 | paultag | (in Python) |
| 20:59.00 | moldy | paultag: yes, builders |
| 21:00.04 | moldy | paultag: to be honest, i don't see that the added benefit of .deb packages outweighs the complexity. |
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| 21:00.28 | paultag | moldy: I mean, plenty of people are quite happy not using them -- they solve a problem that might not be the same problem you have |
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| 21:00.35 | moldy | right |
| 21:00.37 | paultag | moldy: but they're vital to the work that we do in Debian |
| 21:00.40 | paultag | and if you use them correctly |
| 21:00.43 | paultag | namely, not with fpm |
| 21:00.45 | paultag | they make a lot of sense |
| 21:01.07 | paultag | but if you don't see the use / they're adding work -- don't use 'em :) |
| 21:01.15 | paultag | it's a tool, all tools have their use |
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| 21:01.30 | moldy | the thought of being able to use apt to do rollbacks and so on is rather sexy, which is why i investigated them |
| 21:01.44 | paultag | indeed |
| 21:01.53 | undata | would anyone be able to assist me in preventing dhclient from editing resolv.conf for a particular interface? |
| 21:02.08 | moldy | but in the end, tar.gz and a couple of scripts are probably the way to go for now :) |
| 21:02.16 | undata | the tun0 vpn interface is stomping the dns provided over eth0 which I do not want |
| 21:02.34 | paultag | moldy: sounds totally sane, if that's something that would make y'alls life better |
| 21:02.55 | McErroneous | QUIT |
| 21:03.01 | paultag | Permission denied |
| 21:03.05 | moldy | paultag: hard lesson learned ;) |
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| 21:03.14 | paultag | moldy: alas, happens. Check out ansible, that might be a good fit too |
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| 21:03.23 | paultag | moldy: you can do some really neat stuff there |
| 21:03.47 | moldy | paultag: i am already using ansible |
| 21:03.50 | paultag | Ah, great |
| 21:04.38 | moldy | paultag: my current pipeline is more or less: push to mercurial, trigger a build jenkins, execute a makefile on the build machine, run fpm to build the deb package |
| 21:04.57 | moldy | paultag: with ansible being responsible for configuration management |
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| 21:05.27 | moldy | undata: never did this, but google knows some things about it. where exactly are you running into problems? |
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| 21:05.59 | moldy | paultag: ansible is nice, except for yaml, that is an abomination :p |
| 21:06.07 | paultag | :) |
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| 21:06.08 | undata | moldy: what I'm finding is for example overriding that dhclient hook function, but that seems like it'll prevent all edits to resolv.conf, which I don't want |
| 21:06.11 | paultag | as a Lisper, I tend to agree :) |
| 21:06.12 | undata | just want to avoid tun0 stomping it |
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| 21:08.19 | moldy | pingfloyd: i could do sudo apt-get update, but i am hesitant to do so |
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| 21:09.27 | moldy | pingfloyd: it's the last straw ;) |
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| 21:10.31 | DeaDSouL | hey Brigo |
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| 21:14.38 | GeekDude | jhutchins: Well... It seems that the problem I was having with the iMac G3 was not one of BIOS battery, but of RAM. Sadly, I didn't figure this out until just now, after receiving the new battery |
| 21:14.57 | Iridos | undata, there is a file for dhclient that contains custom things that should be added for a certain interface... you can usually accomplish what you want with that and still have dhclient write resolv.conf |
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| 21:15.29 | undata | Iridos: so I can say tun0 shouldn't write anything, but eth0 should? |
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| 21:16.16 | undata | well... ideally actually I'd have it grab nameservers from both with tun0's first and eth0's second |
| 21:16.23 | Iridos | not sure... but it was the way to include search paths... I'm not using dhclient on any of my machines right now |
| 21:16.58 | Iridos | undata, maybe look at the openresolv package... |
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| 21:18.08 | Iridos | or resolvconf package... |
| 21:18.23 | undata | Iridos: thank you :) I'll try one of those |
| 21:18.36 | Iridos | I think they were made to address problems similar to yours... but I've not been forced to use them yet :) |
| 21:18.37 | undata | looks like what I need |
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| 21:22.23 | BOODA | allla alla binga boo! |
| 21:22.39 | BOODA | olly olly oxen free? |
| 21:22.41 | BOODA | WAT! |
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| 21:23.08 | BOODA | de es le limpo |
| 21:23.11 | BOODA | de limpnoids |
| 21:23.17 | BOODA | de la fe la say do! |
| 21:23.29 | BOODA | ooon doo twa carte |
| 21:23.34 | BOODA | oncey doncey |
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| 21:23.37 | OSVG | !report BOODA |
| 21:23.40 | BOODA | o.O |
| 21:23.46 | BOODA | !report OSVG |
| 21:23.53 | BOODA | for reporting the high and mighty.. |
| 21:24.02 | BOODA | el a looka leeka leiki |
| 21:24.07 | BOODA | is the hawaiin way |
| 21:24.12 | BOODA | to say merry christmas to you :3 |
| 21:24.16 | GeekDude | !report BOODA |
| 21:24.22 | BOODA | !report GeekDude |
| 21:24.31 | BOODA | you dare to address me templar? |
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| 21:25.03 | dondelelcaro | ^5 babilen |
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| 21:25.16 | babilen | ;) |
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| 21:44.28 | LordCreepity | so i used the suggested commands and did what judd told me to. |
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| 21:44.43 | LordCreepity | however, now my system doesn't detect a wifi card at all. |
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| 21:45.01 | LordCreepity | my kernel is tainted as well, but I'm not all that worried about that. |
| 21:45.11 | pingfloyd | what did judd tell you to do? |
| 21:45.32 | LordCreepity | <judd> [14e4:4311] is 'BCM4311 802.11b/g WLAN' from 'Broadcom Corporation' with kernel module 'ssb' in wheezy. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=14e4:4311 http://wiki.debian.org/wl and the out-of-tree 'wl' module. |
| 21:45.50 | centrx | LordCreepity, tainted just means you loaded non-free firmware, which I assume is correct |
| 21:45.56 | LordCreepity | i know >.> |
| 21:46.05 | pingfloyd | did you install the non-free firmware package? |
| 21:46.08 | LordCreepity | yes |
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| 21:47.11 | tastybuds | Hi guys. Is it possible to install debian on a tablet natively? |
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| 21:49.44 | tremon | what does "natively" mean here? |
| 21:49.58 | pingfloyd | also which tablet |
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| 21:50.30 | DeaDSouL | LordCreepity: reboot, then check '/var/log/kern.log' |
| 21:50.39 | LordCreepity | ok |
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| 21:52.10 | ScottE | LordCreepity: did you look at the wiki as mtn suggested? https://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx |
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| 21:57.52 | DeaDSouL | LordCreepity: Got to go,..! hopefully the guys will help you :) |
| 21:58.02 | LordCreepity | still no wifi |
| 21:58.10 | LordCreepity | but imma try something, bbias |
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| 21:58.21 | DeaDSouL | since I finished my cool debian wheezy 7.8 HTPC... it's time to enjoy it and watch some movies :P |
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| 22:03.26 | p0g0 | LordCreepity: not to be a jerk, but that chipset is not much, and nor is the driver. You can get a very cheap well supported alternative and I doubt you'll regret doing that. |
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| 22:03.52 | p0g0 | the Linux-wireless folks have a nice website. |
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| 22:26.34 | LordCreepity | i got it working :D |
| 22:26.55 | LordCreepity | p0g0: thats because this is from around 2006-2007 |
| 22:27.05 | LordCreepity | it was top-of-the-line then >.> |
| 22:27.16 | p0g0 | good, it will always be slow and likely to drop out |
| 22:27.23 | LordCreepity | lol |
| 22:27.33 | LordCreepity | but this is a laptop |
| 22:27.51 | p0g0 | poke around the linus-wireless or openwrt crowds, you'll get a lot more evidence from them |
| 22:28.00 | LordCreepity | k |
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| 22:28.19 | p0g0 | so, you can still change the wireless nic, tho you may need to futz with the BIOs a bit |
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| 22:28.59 | p0g0 | You should look up you make and model of laptop to see if the BIOs has a whitelist/blacklist for hardware. |
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| 22:35.26 | LordCreepity | looks like there is a blacklist... |
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| 22:39.42 | cheche | I am searching for a way to setup a debian box that only start a rdp client. it is just to revive a PIII |
| 22:39.59 | cheche | but I amnot sure about what package to install under debian |
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| 22:40.54 | cheche | I saw the xrdp package, but it seems more for windows machine to loing on the debian box. |
| 22:41.32 | centrx | I used to use rdesktop |
| 22:42.08 | centrx | cheche, apt-cache search remote desktop |
| 22:42.18 | cheche | centrx: ok, but how do you start just the rdesktop |
| 22:42.38 | cheche | I would like to boot up and only get the rdesktop client |
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| 22:43.04 | centrx | cheche, You could use nodm so that it automatically logs in (to Linux/X) |
| 22:43.22 | centrx | cheche, Then maybe add the remote desktop client to your ~/.xinitrc so it runs when X starts |
| 22:43.44 | cheche | *testing right now* |
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| 22:47.10 | dj_jazzy_jeff | ./msg NickServ identify $%!7b2*)235xXzB&&$ |
| 22:47.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | dj_jazzy_jeff, that was great... |
| 22:47.32 | dj_jazzy_jeff | thanks |
| 22:47.35 | dj_jazzy_jeff | feels great |
| 22:47.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | I know :D |
| 22:47.51 | dj_jazzy_jeff | wtf happened |
| 22:48.00 | CutMeOwnThroat | you pre-pended a "."? |
| 22:48.04 | LordCreepity | LOL |
| 22:48.06 | dj_jazzy_jeff | why didnt i have to log in tho |
| 22:48.16 | dj_jazzy_jeff | oh i see that uch |
| 22:48.19 | dj_jazzy_jeff | lol |
| 22:48.23 | LordCreepity | all i saw was ****************** |
| 22:48.29 | paultag | hunter2 my hunter2ing hunter2 |
| 22:48.31 | dj_jazzy_jeff | hah yeah sure |
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| 22:48.41 | dj_jazzy_jeff | so guys i've got an issue |
| 22:48.47 | LordCreepity | yeah |
| 22:48.50 | dj_jazzy_jeff | I was wondering if someone might be able to help me |
| 22:48.55 | LordCreepity | we know your password :P |
| 22:48.59 | dj_jazzy_jeff | pretty mindboggling |
| 22:49.11 | dj_jazzy_jeff | thats fine you can loginto my irc that password is unused elsewhere lol |
| 22:49.15 | CutMeOwnThroat | and you have the problem that your passwords look a lot like swearing in asterix&obelix |
| 22:49.17 | dj_jazzy_jeff | i wont mind if you troll my irc |
| 22:49.26 | LordCreepity | is joking |
| 22:49.34 | LordCreepity | you should change that though |
| 22:49.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | well, I hope you changed it... there's channel logs on the web |
| 22:49.53 | CutMeOwnThroat | too late, maybe |
| 22:50.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | someone may have ghosted him |
| 22:50.15 | LordCreepity | gg |
| 22:50.21 | paultag | yeah sorry, I couldn't resist |
| 22:50.23 | paultag | bit of a dick move |
| 22:50.26 | paultag | but uh |
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| 22:50.32 | paultag | I've been having a shit day and that made it a little better |
| 22:50.34 | centrx | applauds |
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| 22:50.42 | paultag | sorry dj_jazzy_jeff :) |
| 22:50.46 | paultag | couldn't resist |
| 22:50.54 | dj_jazzy_jeff | hahaha |
| 22:50.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | paultag, you did change the password first, did you... |
| 22:51.00 | paultag | nah |
| 22:51.05 | LordCreepity | lol |
| 22:51.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | well I did |
| 22:51.15 | centrx | he should really change his password |
| 22:51.17 | centrx | someone should |
| 22:51.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | (just kidding, not touching it) |
| 22:51.20 | paultag | oh come on, let's not mess with his day |
| 22:51.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | but change it or someone will |
| 22:51.24 | paultag | a ghosting is just cute :) |
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| 22:51.34 | paultag | dj_jazzy_jeff: so, what's up bru |
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| 22:51.42 | centrx | dj_jazzy_jeff, FYI you should change your Nickserv password |
| 22:51.53 | dj_jazzy_jeff | haha I am changing it as we speak |
| 22:51.54 | phogg | before someone not so nice takes advantage |
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| 22:53.10 | dj_jazzy_jeff | log in now bitches |
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| 22:53.19 | paultag | :) |
| 22:53.24 | dominik | Hey debian experts, |
| 22:53.26 | dj_jazzy_jeff | hahah well thank you paultag |
| 22:53.31 | dj_jazzy_jeff | i would have just forgotten it |
| 22:53.43 | paultag | np, happy to ghost anyone who gives me their password |
| 22:53.51 | dominik | a while ago, I installed debian wheezy on my laptop and enabled luks drive encryption during the setup |
| 22:54.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | paultag, if you read "dracula" you know it'll be the same password, but spelled backwards :P |
| 22:54.07 | dominik | everything worked fine until I updated my kernel and initramfs |
| 22:54.10 | dj_jazzy_jeff | okay so pretty much right now i'm reaaallly annoyed |
| 22:54.10 | paultag | CutMeOwnThroat++ |
| 22:54.16 | paultag | Jdbye: s'up |
| 22:54.20 | paultag | erm, dj_jazzy_jeff s'up |
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| 22:54.28 | dj_jazzy_jeff | I've got this issue with my desktop downstairs |
| 22:54.34 | dj_jazzy_jeff | it's running Kali |
| 22:54.35 | dominik | when booting the new kernel, the cryptsetup decryption prompt does *not* show up anymore during boot time |
| 22:54.43 | dj_jazzy_jeff | which is Debian seed in case anybody cares |
| 22:54.47 | dominik | it seems as if the initramfs is missing the cryptsetup modules. |
| 22:54.52 | dominik | anyone knows how to fix this? |
| 22:54.58 | mtn | !kali |
| 22:54.58 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>. |
| 22:55.02 | dj_jazzy_jeff | now I've been for the past 2 hrs stuck without internet |
| 22:55.11 | dj_jazzy_jeff | oh |
| 22:55.12 | dj_jazzy_jeff | man |
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| 22:55.35 | dj_jazzy_jeff | well none of their support is near as widespread |
| 22:55.58 | mtn | dj_jazzy_jeff: they change things and this channel does not know just what they have done |
| 22:56.30 | CutMeOwnThroat | maybe, but it's frustrating askers and askees if we give debian-answers to non-debian-systems so we try really hard not to do that |
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| 22:57.06 | dj_jazzy_jeff | can someone personally answer me the question why (after I enable NetworkManager.conf to allow managed=true) |
| 22:57.24 | dj_jazzy_jeff | that my wired connection is seen |
| 22:57.34 | dj_jazzy_jeff | but cannot get an address |
| 22:57.43 | CutMeOwnThroat | dominik, that sounds scary |
| 22:57.43 | dj_jazzy_jeff | I know the router will allow for another connection |
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| 22:58.04 | qman__ | That's going to be kali specific, the networking is highly messed with |
| 22:58.05 | dominik | CutMeOwnThroat: yes, it is. It worked perfectly with the linux image that was offered by the installer |
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| 22:58.40 | dominik | but then when I updated my system to a new linux image and initramfs, cryptsetup does not show up anymore when booting into the new kernel |
| 22:58.45 | dominik | and I have no glue on how to fix this. |
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| 22:59.24 | dominik | the only thing that I found out is that the initramfs of the new kernel does not seem to include the cryptsetup modules, etc., while the old, installer-provided initramfs does |
| 22:59.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | dominik, well, you surely still have the older kernel around... and hopefully initramfs wasn't changed either by the additional kernel |
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| 23:00.14 | dominik | CutMeOwnThroat: yes, as I said booting into the old kernel works (indeed, I'm booted into it right now :P) |
| 23:00.36 | bolt | the feeling when upgrading your stored tftp boot to the newest wheezy netboot installer makes your new box detect the harddrive on install? yeah, it's good. |
| 23:02.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | dominik, you've been at https://wiki.debian.org/initramfs then? |
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| 23:04.20 | CutMeOwnThroat | dj_jazzy_jeff, dhclient will do that? you could call it manually and see what happens? |
| 23:04.39 | dj_jazzy_jeff | ergh |
| 23:05.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | :D |
| 23:05.58 | dominik | CutMeOwnThroat: no, not yet. In which sense is this helpful? |
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| 23:06.25 | CutMeOwnThroat | dominik, for installing the missing bits into the initramfs (supposing what you suspect is true) |
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| 23:06.57 | CutMeOwnThroat | also the link to debugging it |
| 23:08.14 | CutMeOwnThroat | dominik, well, first thing would be to check if the module is really missing, then why |
| 23:09.13 | dominik | CutMeOwnThroat: yes, diffing the old and the new initramfs images shows that in the new one all the cryptsetup related stuff does not show up |
| 23:09.24 | dj_jazzy_jeff | i called dhclient and ran it alone and as "dhclient eth0" and it turns some gears and then gives me a samba error (I'm not running samba??) |
| 23:09.30 | dominik | in contrast, in the old initramfs it is included. |
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| 23:11.39 | peterS | dj_jazzy_jeff: generally dhclient will run hooks to reload stuff when DHCP info changes. so the samba error is probably just a warning based on such a hook, and is probably harmless |
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| 23:30.27 | r4sp | hm |
| 23:30.34 | r4sp | Guys im having an issue with debian |
| 23:31.04 | boycottg00gle | !ask |
| 23:31.04 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 23:31.21 | r4sp | If i suspend my system and then i try to wake up my laptop the keyboard, touchpad and screen are not responding but a few leds in the keyboard which are turning on |
| 23:32.12 | r4sp | I'm running debian wheezy --> uname: 3.2.0-4 amd64 1# SMP Debian 3.2.65-1 x86_64 |
| 23:32.34 | r4sp | I also checked out the pm-suspend.log from /var/log comparing with logs yesterday |
| 23:32.50 | boycottg00gle | 3.2.65-1 has a suspend bug |
| 23:33.02 | r4sp | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:33.04 | r4sp | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:33.24 | r4sp | yep i updated the kernel this morning |
| 23:33.29 | r4sp | so what should I do? |
| 23:33.43 | dondelelcaro | r4sp: downgrade the kernel |
| 23:33.55 | dondelelcaro | r4sp: a fix for it will be released, but it hasn't been done yet. |
| 23:34.12 | abrotman | Ben has them in a personal repo though |
| 23:34.25 | abrotman | or potential fixes anyway |
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| 23:35.14 | r4sp | dondelelcaro: Never did that, tonight will be my first time. Is that a long process? It's late in Spain, if it is i can try it tomorrow |
| 23:35.36 | dondelelcaro | r4sp: not really, you can even just cherry pick the package from snapshots.debian.org if it's expired from the mirrors |
| 23:35.59 | dondelelcaro | someone should probably write up how to do it, since you're likely not going to be the only person |
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| 23:36.40 | r4sp | dondelelcaro: lets begin |
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| 23:38.40 | dondelelcaro | r4sp: ok, so an earlier version is probably still in wheezy-security, so you can probably do something like apt-get install linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64=3.2.63-2+deb7u2; |
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| 23:41.15 | r4sp | dondelelcaro: yep just did something like that |
| 23:41.38 | r4sp | i learned something: apt-cache policy linux-image-3.2.0-4-amd64 gives me the version table |
| 23:41.42 | dondelelcaro | yep |
| 23:41.43 | r4sp | then i can choose the downgrade |
| 23:42.03 | dondelelcaro | exactly. You can also do it fairly easily from the aptitude curses interface too |
| 23:42.10 | r4sp | so lets try |
| 23:42.28 | r4sp | YES! |
| 23:42.36 | r4sp | thanks dondelelcaro |
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| 23:56.38 | brokencycle | Hi! I fiddled with Xresources and can now see only ESC[1m and friends instead of the colours. |
| 23:56.44 | brokencycle | Any idea about how to undo this? |
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| 23:56.48 | brokencycle | please? |
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| 23:56.58 | brokencycle | This is a testing machine (ie, almost jessie) |
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| 23:58.29 | erry | hi, what repositoies should i use for wheezy armhf? |
| 23:58.54 | erry | err, nevermind i am an idiot |
| 23:58.59 | erry | had http instead of ftp and it wasn't working |