| 00:00.21 | cheche | https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi |
| 00:00.36 | legitpillow | I know. |
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| 00:01.00 | legitpillow | Been there. I need wireless-tools. But does that mean I need to download all of wireless-tools depdenencies (and their dependencies) or is there an easier way |
| 00:01.15 | legitpillow | Keep in mind, I cannot install with aptitude |
| 00:01.25 | legitpillow | So, I'd imagine I'd need to put it all on a USB drive. |
| 00:01.37 | cheche | dpkg -i wireless-tools.deb |
| 00:01.37 | dpkg | package wireless-tools.deb is already installed |
| 00:01.53 | legitpillow | No. |
| 00:02.03 | legitpillow | CD 1. Base system |
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| 00:02.43 | jordanm | legitpillow: you need to select to the laptop task during the installation |
| 00:02.52 | jordanm | legitpillow: the packages you need should be on CD 1 |
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| 00:03.05 | legitpillow | Erm |
| 00:03.10 | jordanm | but you may also require firmware, depending on the wireless card |
| 00:03.11 | legitpillow | "select to the laptop task during the installation" |
| 00:03.14 | legitpillow | I saw no such option. |
| 00:03.23 | legitpillow | It's Ralink |
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| 00:03.41 | jordanm | task selection is certainly one of the installation steps |
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| 00:04.10 | legitpillow | Uhh |
| 00:04.11 | cheche | lspci can give you the name of the wireless card |
| 00:04.18 | legitpillow | I just told you. Ralink |
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| 00:04.38 | jordanm | !tell legitpillow about ralink |
| 00:04.47 | legitpillow | Already messaged dpkg about it. |
| 00:04.55 | jordanm | legitpillow: what version of debian is this? |
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| 00:05.05 | legitpillow | The latest |
| 00:05.07 | legitpillow | amd64 |
| 00:05.09 | jordanm | legitpillow: which is? |
| 00:05.13 | legitpillow | Wheezy? |
| 00:05.39 | legitpillow | 7,8 |
| 00:05.42 | legitpillow | 7.8 |
| 00:06.03 | jordanm | legitpillow: uncomment the cd source line in /etc/apt/sources.list (if commented), apt-get update; tasksel install laptop |
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| 00:06.08 | cheche | lspci -n give you a bit more of informatiion, no only the name of the vendor, plus a device number |
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| 00:06.17 | legitpillow | cheche: alright. |
| 00:06.29 | legitpillow | jordanm: okay. brb |
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| 00:12.16 | legitpilow | Alright. The line was already commented out. I ran apt-get update. Did tasksel install laptop. No errors. |
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| 00:12.27 | legitpilow | Did updatedb. Tried to locate wireless-tools |
| 00:12.31 | legitpilow | iwconfig no command found |
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| 00:13.02 | legitpilow | And couldn't locate any "wireless-tools" |
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| 00:13.15 | cheche | lspci -n | grep 1814 |
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| 00:13.23 | legitpilow | What's that |
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| 00:13.37 | cheche | the id for the card. |
| 00:13.46 | legitpilow | What does that matter/ |
| 00:13.55 | legitpilow | The tools aren't installed that's why I can't configure it |
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| 00:14.31 | bazhang | he said to uncomment the cd |
| 00:14.37 | legitpilow | I did. |
| 00:14.50 | bazhang | you just said you commented it out |
| 00:15.01 | legitpilow | I Googled how to configure the interfaces file..but apparently it will be useless if I can't configure it (not having the tools to do so) |
| 00:15.07 | legitpilow | I meant uncommented. It was already uncommented |
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| 00:15.31 | bazhang | pastebin the sources list please |
| 00:15.51 | legitpilow | It's something along the lines of deb cdrom Debian Wheezy etc |
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| 00:16.00 | legitpilow | That's the only line that's uncommented. |
| 00:16.17 | legitpilow | There's three or so more lines, but they're commented. They're network mirrors or sommat |
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| 00:16.49 | legitpilow | Oh, by the way...I'm using a bootable USB stick that has thte .iso on it.. |
| 00:16.53 | bazhang | you cant connect a wire for what reason |
| 00:16.58 | legitpilow | That's how I installed Debian. |
| 00:17.18 | legitpilow | It isn't the .iso file itself..but it's the files from the .iso |
| 00:17.20 | legitpilow | I used Rufus. |
| 00:17.35 | legitpilow | Maybe I need to reflect that in the sources.list...a USB drive? |
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| 00:17.58 | bazhang | ,v rufus |
| 00:17.59 | judd | No package named 'rufus' was found in i386. |
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| 00:18.20 | legitpilow | bazhang: you're confused. |
| 00:18.32 | bazhang | you extracted the files from the iso? |
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| 00:19.02 | legitpilow | Rufus is a utility that helps format and create bootable USB flash drives, such as USB keys/pendrives, memory sticks, etc. |
| 00:19.09 | legitpilow | It's a Windows application. |
| 00:19.24 | legitpilow | I used it to prepare my USB drive to boot Debian so I could install it. |
| 00:19.34 | legitpilow | Which was successful. |
| 00:19.45 | legitpilow | Now, instead of having a cdrom..I have a USB drive with debian on it. |
| 00:19.58 | legitpilow | (the installation disc) |
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| 00:20.38 | legitpilow | cheche: in any case, at this point, I will need the tools to go any further |
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| 00:20.58 | bazhang | I guess I joined after the part about why connecting a wire and getting the tools was not possible |
| 00:21.00 | legitpilow | That's the problem. The system recognizes the card. I just cannot configure it because the tools aren't installed on the system |
| 00:21.10 | legitpilow | bazhang: connecting a wire? |
| 00:21.23 | legitpilow | I'm trying to configure my wireless network. wireless-tools isn't installed |
| 00:21.27 | legitpilow | I cannot run iwconfig |
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| 00:21.53 | cheche | legitpilow: I know, but still. You need to findout exactly which card you have on your system |
| 00:21.58 | bazhang | you want to get wireless running on a machine that has no inet |
| 00:22.02 | legitpilow | cheche: why? |
| 00:22.09 | legitpilow | bazhang: yup |
| 00:22.46 | bazhang | so connecting ethernet would be a solution, or I missed why it's not possible |
| 00:22.55 | cheche | say that you have a wireless card that not only need the tools, it needs the firmware and a new kernel. |
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| 00:23.12 | cheche | is nice to know |
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| 00:23.30 | legitpilow | cheche: well, I submit that we should worry about that if it happens |
| 00:23.31 | bazhang | knowing the exact ralink model as well |
| 00:23.41 | legitpilow | Sigh |
| 00:23.41 | legitpilow | Fine. |
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| 00:24.01 | legitpilow | I think it would be more practical to just figure how how to get the tools on there so I can configure it |
| 00:24.10 | bazhang | no idea why you are sighing, these are normal troubleshooting questions |
| 00:24.13 | OSVG | USB stick? Ethernet Cable? |
| 00:24.19 | OSVG | DVD? |
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| 00:24.23 | legitpilow | USB. |
| 00:24.26 | legitpilow | No Ethernet |
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| 00:24.39 | bazhang | why not connect ethernet |
| 00:24.45 | legitpilow | Can't. |
| 00:24.46 | OSVG | He may not have one? |
| 00:24.47 | OSVG | Anyways |
| 00:24.52 | legitpilow | ^^ |
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| 00:24.55 | OSVG | Download the Deb on a different system, USB transfer. |
| 00:25.03 | OSVG | install from local deb. |
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| 00:25.18 | legitpilow | OSVG: Considered that. But do I need all the dependencies for that package (and THEIR deps too) |
| 00:25.19 | legitpilow | ? |
| 00:25.22 | bazhang | it would be worth it to get a friend's house if any of those existed/were available |
| 00:25.24 | OSVG | Probably, yes. |
| 00:25.38 | legitpilow | OSVG: so, basically, I'm going to have to download about 100 different packages? |
| 00:25.40 | legitpilow | One by one? |
| 00:25.46 | OSVG | Only the ones you're missing. |
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| 00:26.02 | OSVG | Is this your ONLY computer? |
| 00:26.03 | legitpilow | That's going to be a long process. Anything that would be quicker? |
| 00:26.05 | legitpilow | YEs |
| 00:26.16 | cheche | maybe that package still on the usb |
| 00:26.17 | legitpilow | Dual-booting. |
| 00:26.21 | OSVG | Could you exchange money or sexual favors for spending the evening at a friends house who has a PC? |
| 00:26.26 | OSVG | Oh |
| 00:26.28 | legitpilow | OSVG: definitely likely. |
| 00:26.34 | OSVG | Do you have wireless on your other boot? |
| 00:26.38 | legitpilow | Yes. |
| 00:26.40 | OSVG | Ok |
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| 00:26.56 | bazhang | very short sneakernet |
| 00:27.00 | OSVG | So you have two options. Make a catalog of your packages, switch to your other boot, look up the dependencies and download them, transfer them. |
| 00:27.03 | legitpilow | cheche: what directory on the USB would the packages be in |
| 00:27.14 | OSVG | Or, do it the more fun way and have a few drinks with a friend while USB swapping it. |
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| 00:27.56 | cheche | should be under pool/main/w |
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| 00:28.02 | legitpilow | Ah, yes. |
| 00:28.03 | legitpilow | It's there. |
| 00:28.17 | legitpilow | wireless-tools |
| 00:28.20 | legitpilow | On the USB |
| 00:28.40 | legitpilow | So..how would I add the USB to the sources.list |
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| 00:28.54 | legitpilow | (Keep in mind, the USB is like a bootable CD) |
| 00:28.58 | cheche | maybe you can try to install using dpkg -i |
| 00:29.01 | legitpilow | Not sure if that's relevant |
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| 00:29.46 | legitpilow | cheche: how would I install a package from the USB while Debian is booted? |
| 00:29.54 | cheche | using dpkg |
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| 00:30.23 | legitpilow | I guess I would just mount the USB and navigate to the directory? |
| 00:30.32 | cheche | and execute dpkg -i |
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| 00:30.43 | cheche | and execute dpkg -i maneofpackage.deb |
| 00:30.50 | legitpilow | Okay. |
| 00:30.58 | bazhang | name too |
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| 00:31.12 | cheche | and execute dpkg -i name-of-package.deb |
| 00:31.14 | cheche | sorry |
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| 00:31.22 | legitpilow | haha |
| 00:31.38 | bazhang | :) |
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| 00:32.21 | legitpilow | Now figuring out how to mount this thing.. |
| 00:32.34 | legitpilow | I have to use dmesg to find the "letter"? |
| 00:32.36 | cheche | mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt |
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| 00:32.39 | legitpilow | like /dev/sb* |
| 00:32.42 | legitpilow | Okay |
| 00:32.51 | cheche | usb should the second. (I could be wrong) |
| 00:33.07 | legitpilow | What was that other command you wanted me to use to find the type of card |
| 00:33.11 | legitpilow | lspci | grep 1814 |
| 00:33.12 | legitpilow | or something? |
| 00:33.34 | cheche | list pci and grep for the vendor 1814 |
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| 00:33.41 | legitpilow | kkk |
| 00:33.41 | cheche | that is the command |
| 00:33.43 | legitpilow | kk* |
| 00:33.47 | legitpilow | brb |
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| 00:50.48 | legitpillow | cheche: 06:00.0 Network controller Ralink Device 3298 |
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| 00:51.03 | legitpillow | Installed the wireless-tools. ip a and iwconfig show no wlan device |
| 00:51.14 | legitpillow | Googled a bit..maybe I need ralink-firmware? |
| 00:52.12 | cheche | what os are you using right now? |
| 00:52.25 | legitpillow | Right now...while I'm chatting? |
| 00:52.27 | legitpillow | Windows 8 |
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| 00:55.15 | cheche | looks like that device is a bluetooh |
| 00:55.24 | cheche | try to get the vendor and device using windows |
| 00:55.31 | cheche | on the device administrator |
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| 00:55.58 | cheche | quite possible is 3290 |
| 00:56.25 | cheche | https://wiki.debian.org/rt3290 |
| 00:57.01 | legitpillow | That number was for Bluetooth device |
| 00:57.02 | legitpillow | from Ralink |
| 00:58.05 | legitpillow | I have to use a new kernel |
| 00:58.07 | legitpillow | To get this to work? |
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| 00:58.47 | cheche | and the ralink firmware |
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| 01:00.02 | cheche | you may try to install debian 8 and only the ralink firmware |
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| 01:01.31 | legitpillow | brb |
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| 01:13.40 | cantoma | hey guys, is it possible to mount a usb pen drive in debian without being root. I have no windows manager (such as gnome or kde, just console). let me know if you know a way. |
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| 01:14.28 | pingfloyd | You'd need an entry in fstab with option user or users |
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| 01:15.04 | nell | how do you set flags --no-install-recommends as the default |
| 01:15.05 | cantoma | pingfloyd, what should be the device ? i might have more than one usb pen |
| 01:15.58 | pingfloyd | Look in /var/log/dmesg for clues when you plug it in |
| 01:16.31 | cantoma | pingfloyd, it says i have no permissions |
| 01:17.15 | pingfloyd | You may not be able to then without some services to handle it |
| 01:19.00 | cantoma | pingfloyd, so that means i need to have root access each time |
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| 01:19.13 | cantoma | i might have to change the fstab everytime the device changes |
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| 01:21.14 | pingfloyd | Maybe try usbmount package |
| 01:21.36 | pingfloyd | Sounds like what you're looking for |
| 01:23.01 | pingfloyd | And pmount should allow normal user to mount removable devices |
| 01:23.03 | cantoma | i am cheking it |
| 01:23.15 | cantoma | sounds good |
| 01:23.53 | pingfloyd | Usbmount recommends pmount, probably for that exact reason |
| 01:24.34 | pingfloyd | So usbmount gives automounting and pmount allows regular users |
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| 01:25.48 | legitpillow | cheche: you there? |
| 01:26.24 | cheche | yes. tell me |
| 01:26.30 | legitpillow | K. It's working now. |
| 01:26.46 | cantoma | pingfloyd, yes, pmount is a requirement from usbmount |
| 01:26.50 | legitpillow | Now..with that new kernel...do I need to update my soures.list so I can download the appropriate packages? |
| 01:27.18 | cheche | nice. |
| 01:27.48 | legitpillow | What do I need to put it sources.list so I can download the cooresponding packages? |
| 01:27.54 | legitpillow | Different kernel etc |
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| 01:28.27 | cheche | you should have the proper sources. but as far as I know you only have used the backported kernel. |
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| 01:28.41 | legitpillow | cheche: yes. that's the only source that's in sources.list |
| 01:28.44 | cheche | https://wiki.debian.org/Backports |
| 01:28.49 | legitpillow | Eh?? |
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| 01:29.35 | cheche | you ahve this line right? : deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ wheezy-backports main contrib non-free |
| 01:29.49 | legitpillow | Yes |
| 01:29.57 | legitpillow | So now I can only use backported software? |
| 01:30.10 | cheche | you should have http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free |
| 01:30.15 | legitpillow | okay |
| 01:30.19 | legitpillow | rebauld: you're from Ogden? |
| 01:30.27 | cheche | and security and updates if you whish |
| 01:30.50 | legitpillow | deb http://ftp.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main contrib non-free security updates? |
| 01:31.22 | pingfloyd | Don't forget security line |
| 01:31.27 | cheche | hold on. |
| 01:32.16 | pingfloyd | Make sure you run apt-get update after editing and of the sources files |
| 01:32.24 | pingfloyd | Any* |
| 01:32.27 | cheche | http://paste.debian.net/140568/ |
| 01:32.48 | cheche | that is the ones i have. (spanish mirror) |
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| 01:33.33 | legitpillow | erm |
| 01:33.39 | critr | for backports that won't install i think you can force installation of backport dependencies with: apt-get -t wheezy-backports install <whatever> |
| 01:34.10 | legitpillow | k |
| 01:34.11 | legitpillow | well brb |
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| 01:35.46 | level-1-chef | ok hit max files and chrome crashed, how do i fix this? |
| 01:36.01 | level-1-chef | i see ulimit and and remember kernel max files setting |
| 01:36.12 | level-1-chef | 16g ram box so i can make this setting pretty huge |
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| 01:39.13 | legitpillow | success |
| 01:39.42 | cheche | well done. |
| 01:39.53 | legitpillow | Now, to get X working :x |
| 01:40.05 | legitpillow | I'm on the system now. Using Irssi |
| 01:40.34 | legitpillow | "no screens found" -- I'm sure it's something to do with a 'driver' or a module |
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| 01:42.23 | cheche | "tasksel desktop" I guess |
| 01:42.45 | cheche | you said that you did not run tasksel on the instalation |
| 01:43.04 | legitpillow | Yes, I did |
| 01:43.10 | legitpillow | But it didn't have anything for "laptop" |
| 01:43.18 | legitpillow | it only had "Desktop environment" and "Base system" |
| 01:43.25 | legitpillow | Which I selected both |
| 01:43.46 | critr | all you need is a dsiplay manager like gdm or lightdm, and a desktop like gnome or mate. |
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| 01:44.49 | legitpillow | I understand. |
| 01:45.01 | legitpillow | But when I try to start x, it says no screens found |
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| 01:45.46 | allegorical | sorry how to open html file on my system |
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| 01:46.52 | legitpillow | allegorical: ? |
| 01:46.56 | legitpillow | open it for what? |
| 01:47.10 | allegorical | no sorry i meant using a browser, to view the content |
| 01:48.04 | critr | allegorical: in a gui, right click and open with, choose a broswer |
| 01:48.14 | critr | in a console, elinks |
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| 01:48.31 | legitpillow | critr: this computer uses AMD Radeon graphics.. |
| 01:48.41 | legitpillow | How would I check to see if the proper module/driver is being used |
| 01:48.45 | legitpillow | I think that's why X isn't starting. |
| 01:49.17 | critr | legitpillow: try installing bumblebee? that's supposed to do all kinds of good things for nvidia |
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| 01:49.56 | legitpillow | Nvidia? |
| 01:50.02 | legitpillow | Nvidia = AMD Radeon? |
| 01:50.09 | critr | oops, sorry... then fglrx |
| 01:50.19 | critr | my bad |
| 01:50.32 | legitpillow | no candidate found |
| 01:50.55 | allegorical | hmm i think my r-pi is broken |
| 01:51.08 | allegorical | failed to fetch... failed to resolve... |
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| 01:52.06 | level-1-chef | anyone here run debian in production? |
| 01:52.07 | legitpillow | working on it |
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| 01:54.02 | allegorical | what does it mean when 'sudo apt-get update' returns stuff like 'failed to fetch... failed to resolve...' ? |
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| 01:54.13 | allegorical | ok |
| 01:54.14 | allegorical | nvm |
| 01:54.41 | allegorical | ^ __ ^ |
| 01:56.08 | legitpillow | xserver is the worst thing |
| 01:56.09 | legitpillow | ever |
| 01:56.45 | critr | allegorical: if you're using raspbian, some of the advice for debian won't work |
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| 01:57.17 | allegorical | ah, right thanks |
| 01:57.36 | legitpillow | critr: no idea how to fix this. "no screens found" |
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| 01:58.21 | critr | legitpillow: did you install that ati driver from ati, or the debian srive fglrx? |
| 01:58.28 | legitpillow | the latter |
| 01:59.30 | critr | hm, dunno, maybe reinstall xorg |
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| 02:00.13 | level-1-chef | why debian over freebsd? |
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| 02:01.06 | cynicallemon | thats a good question |
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| 02:03.53 | critr | linux seems to have a better range of hardware drivers than bsd |
| 02:04.06 | legitpillow | critr: there is no mkinitcpio.conf? |
| 02:04.08 | legitpillow | anymore? |
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| 02:04.59 | critr | beats me, legitpillow, i'm no expert |
| 02:05.36 | legitpillow | initramfs |
| 02:05.41 | legitpillow | to load modules early |
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| 02:06.03 | critr | legitpillow: you installed a 3.16 kernel? |
| 02:06.56 | legitpillow | apparently i had to |
| 02:07.00 | legitpillow | to get my wlan working |
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| 02:07.13 | critr | i noticed the newer backported kernels do weird thing with initramfs |
| 02:07.34 | legitpillow | 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-amd64 |
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| 02:11.48 | legitpillow | critr: any idea how to fix it? |
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| 02:19.16 | critr | legitpillow: it looks like installing that kernel uninstalls initramfs-tools and replaces it with dracut. maybe someone else knows the implications of that. |
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| 02:32.50 | b1101 | felix_mc: run xev |
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| 02:32.58 | b1101 | see if the input for all the keys is the same |
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| 02:42.35 | baegle | Hey all. About to do a fresh install of stable on an Intel NUC with a single SSD. This machine is intended to host low volume services for personal use. I'm thinking about using the full disk partitioned via encrypted LVM. Would anyone advise against this? |
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| 02:51.45 | pingfloyd | That is fine if you do it right |
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| 02:52.21 | pingfloyd | Don't know about nuc caveats though |
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| 02:58.31 | ranix | hey doods, I am having a hell of a time building a static libGL |
| 02:58.39 | ranix | is this something I am even supposed to be able to do? |
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| 02:59.05 | ranix | configure in the mesa-10.3.2 source dir is giving me "configure: error: Cannot use static libraries for DRI drivers" |
| 02:59.13 | ranix | with --enable-static |
| 02:59.38 | ranix | I would have sworn these things used to just come with libGL.a files but now it seems none of the -dev packages do anymore |
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| 02:59.42 | baegle | pingfloyd: "nuc caveats" ? No, I'm not, I don't think |
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| 03:02.26 | ranix | If anyone sees my questions and tries to answer them please disregard, apparently I just needed to disable DRI |
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| 03:09.27 | okee | Has anyone been able to run Pale Moon Commander on Debian? http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Features/Pale-Moon/(offset)/3#article_i1 |
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| 03:37.23 | dominik | anyone knows why inside my urxvt terminal the usual keybindings C-a/C-e, etc. don't work? |
| 03:37.58 | dominik | instead of going to the beginning/end of the line, it just displays ^A/^E, etc. |
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| 03:47.34 | babyrobbe | moin moin |
| 03:49.12 | kyle__ | hello |
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| 03:51.43 | kyle__ | oooh, maybe foudn it.... |
| 03:51.55 | shay_shay | wat |
| 03:52.04 | kyle__ | Yeah. It can __all__ be done in a custom udev rule. Neat. |
| 03:52.17 | kyle__ | shay_shay: How to do per-keyboard keymaps. |
| 03:52.29 | shay_shay | udev rules |
| 03:52.36 | shay_shay | xD |
| 03:52.42 | kyle__ | Maybe for this, but I still miss devfs. |
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| 04:01.51 | dominik | ok, got it. I didn't have the emacs-like mode in my zsh enabled. To enable it: set -o emacs and done. |
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| 04:32.04 | nmschulte | Do monitors and embedded displays in laptops come with color calibration profiles? I know EDID can contain that kind of information. |
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| 04:50.29 | Mr_Queue | da faq am I missing? I can't seem to get a sw raid1 /boot via the installer.. Is this a new problem or am I simply overlooking something simple? |
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| 04:55.50 | Inv1s1ble | If I've designed my packages for Ubuntu LTS/upstart (Scala programs packaged using sbt-native-packager; which only includes upstart scripts by default). If I install it in Debian 7.7, "service <my app name> start" says it can't find the service. There is a /etc/init/<my service>.conf |
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| 04:58.37 | Mr_Queue | Perms correct? |
| 04:59.24 | Inv1s1ble | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 828 Jan 14 02:32 bigsense.conf |
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| 04:59.41 | Inv1s1ble | and that file is in /etc/init |
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| 05:03.46 | Mr_Queue | No idea... I'd probably strace it and see what it's trying to look for and not find. |
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| 06:37.27 | ychaouche | Hello |
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| 06:38.32 | ychaouche | I have hard times configuring the network on my machine. I can do it via command line but I can't figure out how to write the /etc/network/interfaces file. |
| 06:38.50 | ychaouche | If anybody can have a look at : https://gist.github.com/ychaouche/4e11152fae80047213aa |
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| 07:29.35 | NRKA | Hi, i trying to set the premissions so users can set the system time with date. I have set all the premissions for the date command but can still not set the system time as user. any ideas? |
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| 07:34.42 | etech3 | Hey guys need some help I have toasted my ssh auto login and can not get it back. What's the best way to clear and reinstall? |
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| 07:46.47 | Stummi | .oO(reinstall for a broken ssh auto login?) |
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| 07:54.56 | ychaouche | Is there a command that prints the ip address, *just* the ip address of a particular interface ? |
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| 07:57.23 | Stummi | ychaouche, ifdata |
| 07:57.41 | Stummi | for example "ifdata -pa eth0" |
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| 08:01.31 | ychaouche | Stummi: do I have to install a package to have this command ? |
| 08:01.42 | ychaouche | I can't find it on my system |
| 08:01.47 | ychaouche | (using whereis ifdata) |
| 08:02.23 | Stummi | ychaouche, moreutils |
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| 08:03.58 | Iridos | dpkg, tell ychaouche about apt-file |
| 08:04.26 | Iridos | ychaouche, although in this case, even "apt-cache search ifdata" would have told you |
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| 08:07.12 | ychaouche | wow so many interresting pacakges in moreutils :) |
| 08:07.39 | ychaouche | like vipe |
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| 08:08.16 | ychaouche | Anybody here suggests a paritcular series of debian screencasts ? |
| 08:08.40 | ychaouche | I would love to see one of those commands in action in interresting use cases. |
| 08:08.47 | Iridos | is there a hype about vipe :-} |
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| 08:24.32 | sep | hello. on a freshly installed jessie installations. i have problems with libvirt in virt-manager. ; create a new vm (pxe) of the type linux-debian-wheezy, no storage and it failed to create with the error "cannot find suiteable cpu model for given data", if i use customize before install, and "clear cpu configuration" ; then i get a new error saying "setting ACPI S3 not supported" .. this machine had working libvirt/KVM when it was running an wheezy. any |
| 08:24.33 | sep | one have a clue to how to troubleshoot further ? my googeling only find old issues. |
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| 08:29.15 | Guest46234 | hey folks i got a question regarding 'apt-get': does the pkgmanager download hole new packages or does the system update these by modifing already installed programs (like git)? |
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| 08:34.47 | anonnumberanon | Where is the sessionstore located for iceweasel ? My Internet browser is fully deadlocked right now and I'll try to remove one of the tabs that should be the culprit, from the session restore file. |
| 08:36.06 | Iridos | Guest46234, they're packages...and you unpack packages at home. you can also watch apt-get download them when you install something and you can find them in /var/cache/apt/archives/ |
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| 08:36.55 | Iridos | anonnumberanon, .mozilla/firefox/*.profilename/ |
| 08:37.02 | anonnumberanon | NVM I found it by doing locate. |
| 08:37.14 | Guest46234 | Iridos: that didnt answer my question |
| 08:37.21 | Iridos | it did! |
| 08:37.31 | Iridos | of course it downloads "whole" packages |
| 08:37.34 | anonnumberanon | /home/username/.mozilla/firefox/xcjosjif.default/sessionstore.js was where the file was located. |
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| 08:37.53 | Guest46234 | ok than its extremly inefficient |
| 08:38.21 | Iridos | nope |
| 08:38.28 | Guest46234 | for updating |
| 08:38.35 | Iridos | nope |
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| 08:38.39 | Guest46234 | ... |
| 08:38.50 | Guest46234 | whatever |
| 08:38.59 | DarsVaeda | is there an easy way to convert non windows compliant file names to such? |
| 08:39.00 | Iridos | :) |
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| 08:39.21 | Iridos | what's a " non windows compliant file name" |
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| 08:39.41 | DarsVaeda | I must admit I have no idea |
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| 08:40.00 | DarsVaeda | "• Jugendliche - Erfahrungen mit Cybermobbing | 2014 2015-01-12 12-05-26" |
| 08:40.04 | DarsVaeda | this seems to be one |
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| 08:40.18 | DarsVaeda | I suspect that dot not being windows likeable |
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| 08:41.04 | Guest46234 | ofc its extremely inefficient to download the whole packages of a program when the update only changed 4 lines of code |
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| 08:41.42 | Iridos | DarsVaeda, you can do mass-renames with "prename" from the perl-package |
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| 08:42.17 | DarsVaeda | thanks, mass rename is not the problem it is more that I have no idea what is windows compliant |
| 08:42.32 | DarsVaeda | so I hoped there is a tool that knows the format and can transform them |
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| 08:42.54 | Iridos | well, but #debian isn't the perfect place to ask what's windows-compliant... for some reason |
| 08:43.37 | DarsVaeda | sure, only that I was looking for a debian tool :) |
| 08:44.00 | Iridos | DarsVaeda, "rename 's/[^a-zA-Z 0-9]/X/g' *" would leave you with a filename only containing letters and numbers and everything else replaced by X .... if that's not a valid filename for windows, I don't know what is |
| 08:45.01 | Iridos | DarsVaeda, and I also suspect the dot very much... I think it's even the dot being the first character that does it (or it's a problem you have with unicode characters under your windows install) |
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| 08:45.17 | virtualizado | HELLO, i have 2 questions about security i would like to hear experts comenting, anyone here? |
| 08:45.30 | virtualizado | FIRST, is there any way for people that uses DUAL BOOT linux + Windows to check the boot area and see if nothing changes, so noone through windows can change the boot area to put like a keylogger? |
| 08:46.01 | virtualizado | SECOND, why people can install iceweasel or firefox ADD ONS on browser and even update them withour admin password? |
| 08:46.06 | DarsVaeda | Iridos, thanks |
| 08:46.19 | DarsVaeda | I'll see if I can use that rename |
| 08:47.03 | Iridos | DarsVaeda, that rename may be a bit drastic... but you can add more characters to the list that is not exchanged... and maybe _ looks in the replace looks nicer than X (this was just for demonstration) |
| 08:47.31 | Iridos | virtualizado, for 2) because those are installed into their home directories |
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| 08:51.28 | Rurd2di | anybody else find the mega app hangs on login using the .deb file? |
| 08:52.34 | virtualizado | Iridos, thanks. I know that, but through it, you can even get a keylogger and besides, browsers are the vulnerability number ONE in computers |
| 08:53.12 | virtualizado | they should be running with separated security configs |
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| 08:57.03 | g00se | Getting "dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of teamviewer:" but aptitude refuses to purge it |
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| 08:58.01 | tugrik | virtualizado: presuming you're here to ask about that on Debian, not in general, I expect you could remove that capability for a machine's users through the application of a security policy, i.e. make home directories non-executable; but I'm not sure what software you'd use on Debian to do that, off the top of my head |
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| 09:00.27 | tugrik | and virtualizado ; if you're that concerned about the boot area you could make it read only... USB key with a physical switch or similar... but if that kind of attacker is in your threat model then I'd hope you've got technical help/advice on hand anyway... or you've been making the wrong kind of enemies |
| 09:00.33 | virtualizado | tugrik, i am just a home desktop user, and i am just checking around the issues. Making home non executable? would be better to turn off browser |
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| 09:01.20 | virtualizado | tugrik, i made no enemies, dude, ahahahahahahaha |
| 09:02.12 | virtualizado | tugrik, is just that we all know that microsoft can not be trusted, and if they wish, they can install a keylogger with or without read only mode. |
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| 09:02.50 | virtualizado | so, i would like to know what tools people uses to check changes in boot area, and warn if something changes when you log in. debian has nothing like this? |
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| 09:04.06 | tugrik | microsoft are unlikely to install keyloggers into random user's boot areas... if you have come to the attention of microsoft to that level, than with all due respect to the people here, you need better advice than an IRC channel |
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| 09:06.12 | anonnumberanon | I'm really in trouble I corrupted sessionrestore.js and when I try to open it in a few text editors, 1GB of memory gets used and it does not open, what can I do? |
| 09:06.15 | anonnumberanon | Why can't I open that file in a text editor and read the contents? |
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| 09:09.23 | g00se | ls -l says what? |
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| 09:10.27 | tugrik | virtualizado: you could probably output the results of dd into md5, or just md5 the results of /boot if that's what you mean |
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| 09:10.56 | g00se | virtualizado: you could start again with UEFI in secure mode |
| 09:11.04 | tugrik | but surely the Windows OS could insert a keylogger into the linux OS directly as it'll have access to the disk, so maybe you can to look at something like tripwire? |
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| 09:11.22 | tugrik | ah g00se , someone who understands hardware less than ten years old, thank you :) |
| 09:11.49 | g00se | Not much ;) |
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| 09:13.17 | g00se | But don't even think of using clamav - it's almost useless |
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| 09:14.27 | Iridos | anonnumberanon, huh, how big is it? and what editors have you used? |
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| 09:15.10 | anonnumberanon | I tried gedit, sublime, Notepad Iridos , it is 34MB large (should be in the kilobytes I believe). |
| 09:15.41 | g00se | What the hell is a javascript doing that's that size? |
| 09:15.42 | Iridos | notepad?! |
| 09:16.01 | Iridos | g00se, storing his 3 million tabs :-} |
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| 09:16.03 | anonnumberanon | Mousepad. |
| 09:16.46 | anonnumberanon | I only have about 50 tabs in it heh. |
| 09:16.55 | Iridos | anonnumberanon, try something more useful like vim or nano... also... there's a sessionrestore.bak maybe you can just copy that back |
| 09:16.58 | deepy | Doesn't Sublime handle 34MB? |
| 09:17.05 | deepy | For me Sublime even manages >100MB |
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| 09:17.32 | deepy | sure it opens slow, but it handles it fine afterwards |
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| 09:17.44 | anonnumberanon | Iridos, both .js and .bak were the same size so they are the same file. |
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| 09:18.21 | anonnumberanon | deepy I closed it after waiting a few minutes, there was a progress bar that was a quarter of the way done, I'll try again with nano and then Sublime |
| 09:18.27 | anonnumberanon | I don't know if I have vim. |
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| 09:19.56 | g00se | xxd sessionrestore.js | less (to _inspect_) |
| 09:20.22 | g00se | (Or just less ;)) |
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| 09:31.18 | anonnumberanon | waw even with nano it does not open right away |
| 09:31.27 | anonnumberanon | ahh it just opened though |
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| 09:32.28 | anonnumberanon | nano becomes unresponsive |
| 09:32.43 | Iridos | anonnumberanon, if that file is 34MB big, you can probably forget about its contents |
| 09:32.45 | virtualizado | tugrik, what program do i use to check boot area automaticly and warn me if something changed? |
| 09:33.01 | anonnumberanon | I think it's one giant string that is 34MB long (if that is even possible). |
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| 09:33.23 | Iridos | anonnumberanon, anyway, you should be able to look at it with "less"... and less *will* open it, it may just look as if it doesn't |
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| 09:35.15 | anonnumberanon | I'm considering writing a C program that will show the contents line by line with each line about 100 characters long. |
| 09:35.40 | anonnumberanon | Wonder if that would be quicker than those text editors. I'll try 'less'. |
| 09:35.42 | Iridos | that's silly... there's lots of programs which can open any file |
| 09:35.56 | fatalerrors-vauq | hi guys |
| 09:36.03 | anonnumberanon | I have two cores maxed out right now though. |
| 09:36.19 | anonnumberanon | Sublime is almost done. |
| 09:36.22 | Iridos | there's also hexedit, but that's already overkill |
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| 09:36.38 | Iridos | sublime? |
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| 09:36.48 | anonnumberanon | Sublime Text |
| 09:36.55 | fatalerrors-vauq | i've got the following problem : i'm using debian sid with sysvinit as init system with kde plasma desktop |
| 09:37.01 | anonnumberanon | That's what I use to write my C programs. |
| 09:37.08 | Iridos | there's only libsublime5 - User interface library in debian |
| 09:37.39 | fatalerrors-vauq | i'm unable to uninstall systemd package and avoid further installation without uninstalling plasma desktop |
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| 09:37.41 | anonnumberanon | Oh yeah. |
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| 09:38.23 | anonnumberanon | Okay I have to post this... |
| 09:38.47 | fatalerrors-vauq | but after a speak with kde guys there's no plasma dependency on systemd |
| 09:39.10 | fatalerrors-vauq | why the hell debian seems to have that kind of dependency ? |
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| 09:39.42 | anonnumberanon | https://imgur.com/VD1VYe6 |
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| 09:41.39 | anonnumberanon | I should add, my text editor is taking 6 GB of ram now. |
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| 09:42.57 | themill | fatalerrors-vauq: plasma-desktop has no dependency on systemd. KDE stuff uses udisks which uses logind to work out if you should have access to devices that have been plugged in or not. |
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| 09:50.47 | Iridos | anonnumberanon, can you pastebin that to paste.debian.net not as a picture? |
| 09:51.08 | Iridos | anonnumberanon, something like... , mv sessionstore.js sessionstore.js.ori; sed 's/"owner_b64":"[^"]*",//" |
| 09:53.31 | fatalerrors-vauq | themill: well that's partially right, it is not a strong dependency : as a kde packager i know it's possible to package udisks without systemd dependency, the main problem remains upower |
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| 09:54.26 | anonnumberanon | Iridos, the whole file? I don't feel good about posting my internet history on paste.debian.net |
| 09:54.46 | anonnumberanon | what is sed 's/"owner_b64":"[^"]*",//" |
| 09:54.48 | anonnumberanon | ?? |
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| 10:01.00 | lmaowaffle | hi guys, where do i find the changelog for latest update for wheezy linux-image? I've found that since that update to 3.2.0-4-amd64, the system goes haywire when trying to resume from suspend (lid close on laptop). Haywire==system powering on, and briefly reads disk, then powers off. The system would then power on and repeat the cycle. It's not until I completely remove a/c adaptor connection and battery for |
| 10:01.02 | lmaowaffle | a short period, then re-connecting, that the system boots up again. Of course, as this is not a resume-from-suspend, but a fresh boot, the system starts up fine. |
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| 10:01.47 | jelly | lmaowaffle: it's a known issue, will soon be fixed. In the meantime, read http://womble.decadent.org.uk/blog/linux-suspendresume-regression-in-debian-78.html |
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| 10:02.40 | lmaowaffle | jelly: oh nice. I did entertain the idea that I was experiencing a hardware fault - thanks for putting my mind at ease |
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| 10:04.29 | lmaowaffle | how do i revert the update? currently I can see 3.2.63-2 +deb7u2 as another option to install (I'm assuming this is from backports repo) |
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| 10:07.13 | jelly | lmaowaffle: something like "aptitude install linux-image-$(uname -r)=3.2.63-2+deb7u2" might work, or grab the fixed 3.2.65 packages from the link in the blog entry |
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| 10:07.24 | lmaowaffle | I find it odd that there is no mention of linux-image in /var/log/apt/history.log, nor the gzipped .log.1 |
| 10:07.43 | jelly | perhaps you used aptitude |
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| 10:08.03 | lmaowaffle | oh yeah |
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| 10:14.38 | Haohmaru | how do i automatically mount /dev/sda2 and have read/write access..? |
| 10:15.18 | SirLagz | Haohmaru: put it into /etc/fstab |
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| 10:16.16 | Haohmaru | i'm trying with various combinations of options in /etc/fstab and it always says "IO Error" when i try to cd into it, and i can't even try to cd into it from my normal user |
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| 10:16.49 | SirLagz | Haohmaru: does it work if you mount it manually ? |
| 10:16.49 | Haohmaru | it's a win7 partition |
| 10:17.05 | Haohmaru | i managed to mount it manually the other day, and it worked then |
| 10:17.12 | SirLagz | also. if it's a win7 partition, you need to mount it with ntfs-3g |
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| 10:17.20 | Haohmaru | but on reboot - it all went away and i no longer remember the arguments i used |
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| 10:17.36 | SirLagz | run history on the command line and you should see the last commands that you used... |
| 10:17.54 | Haohmaru | yes, i use "ntfs-3g" now.. altho i'm pretty sure i used just "ntfs" when i manually mounted it the other day |
| 10:18.04 | SirLagz | using ntfs would give you read only access |
| 10:18.13 | Haohmaru | ah |
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| 10:21.16 | ntz | hello |
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| 10:21.39 | Haohmaru | Sir_Designer, i think this: mount /dev/sda2 /media/win_c/ -t ntfs -o umask=0222 |
| 10:21.57 | Haohmaru | but i'm not sure since there are a few variations in the history around it |
| 10:22.23 | ntz | I have 6.0.10 here, does this patch contain teh heartbelled fix and so on: Inst openssl [0.9.8o-4squeeze17] (0.9.8o-4squeeze19 Debian:6.0-lts/squeeze-lts [amd64]) ?? |
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| 10:23.35 | Haohmaru | ah, sorry, that was directed towards SirLagz |
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| 10:24.30 | SirLagz | Haohmaru: you'd want -t ntfs-3g |
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| 10:25.11 | Haohmaru | okay, but it goes away after reboot |
| 10:26.00 | SirLagz | Haohmaru: sorry, I'll bbl, dinner time |
| 10:26.24 | ntz | Haohmaru: umask for ntfs-3g is bad idea .. use uid= and gid= instead |
| 10:26.44 | Haohmaru | i have no idea what that is.. |
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| 10:27.14 | ntz | so yes, then it's pretty legit to use a wrong arguments if you don't know what correct do |
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| 10:27.55 | scoofy | hi. how do i delete an encrypted partition in debian installer? |
| 10:28.14 | Haohmaru | ntz, i have my reasons.. |
| 10:28.15 | scoofy | i forgot to set up an unencrypted /boot so the installer doesn't allow me to either continue nor delete any encrypted partition. |
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| 10:28.21 | scoofy | so i'm doomed |
| 10:28.26 | Haohmaru | ah, scoofy |
| 10:28.30 | scoofy | cannot do anything |
| 10:28.47 | scoofy | how can be the installer this lame?? |
| 10:28.48 | ntz | and use mount.ntfs-3g, not mout -t ntfs |
| 10:28.56 | scoofy | i'm stuck |
| 10:29.22 | scoofy | of course, tried all the options in all the menus - nope |
| 10:29.44 | scoofy | any idea? |
| 10:30.12 | ntz | Haohmaru: do you even know, what umask=0222 represents ? no I'd guess |
| 10:30.25 | Haohmaru | ntz, of course not |
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| 10:30.27 | ntz | your only reason is your ignorance |
| 10:31.27 | Haohmaru | i needed to copy a file from windows because i couldn't even install a desktop on the linux to browse and google for help |
| 10:31.37 | Haohmaru | was rebooting back and forward the whole day |
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| 10:31.48 | scoofy | HOW TO DELETE AN ENCRYPTED PARTITION IN DEBIAN INSTALLER??? |
| 10:32.13 | ntz | scoofy: shouting won't help you, boot off knoppix or whatever else livecd and delete that from there |
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| 10:32.29 | scoofy | eh |
| 10:32.35 | scoofy | so ... it sucks |
| 10:32.43 | scoofy | crappy installer |
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| 10:33.08 | ntz | :D .. blame installer if it helps you feeling better |
| 10:33.10 | scoofy | second time today that debian installer messes something up |
| 10:33.18 | scoofy | first time it messed up GRUB |
| 10:33.23 | scoofy | so messed up my win XP boot |
| 10:33.25 | scoofy | and now this.... |
| 10:33.40 | anev | restart the install process |
| 10:33.49 | anev | you can select the partition and overwrite |
| 10:33.49 | scoofy | will it allow me to delete the encrypted partition? |
| 10:33.58 | anev | it should yes - see http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=17&t=71360 |
| 10:33.58 | Haohmaru | my monitor resets itself every 5 seconds on linux.. |
| 10:34.04 | ntz | no, it's pretty usual and every linux distro installing grub "messes up" your retarded win xp |
| 10:34.20 | scoofy | ntz: it shouldn't be "usual" and it's retarded to mess up GRUB |
| 10:34.20 | scoofy | i mean |
| 10:34.23 | scoofy | GRUB was messed up |
| 10:34.25 | scoofy | didn't even boot |
| 10:34.38 | scoofy | gave a retarded "recovery console>" something with no info, no help, nothing |
| 10:34.39 | scoofy | retarded |
| 10:34.54 | ntz | scoofy: and yes, debian ain't in my opinion any user-friendly distro, if you lack skill use something else like suse or ubuntu |
| 10:35.04 | SynrGy | uh |
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| 10:35.27 | scoofy | just spent about 2 hours waiting the debian installer to format my crypto partitions |
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| 10:35.30 | scoofy | and AFTER formatting it |
| 10:35.31 | SynrGy | ntz: please don't spread FUD |
| 10:35.40 | scoofy | it says: NO NO NO you messed it up - you have to restart |
| 10:35.43 | scoofy | from zero |
| 10:35.54 | SynrGy | if you lack the skills or cares to help someone with their problem, just let someone else help |
| 10:35.57 | ntz | SynrGy: that FUD was targeted to one concrete guy with low-to-none skill |
| 10:36.02 | scoofy | why didn't it warn me BEFORE spending 2 hours to format my partitions? lame. |
| 10:36.05 | SynrGy | shrugs |
| 10:36.07 | ntz | SynrGy: so it was not even FUD |
| 10:36.18 | scoofy | wasted ~2-3 hours of my life |
| 10:36.45 | scoofy | (after wasting a half day recovering lost data from a partition that debian + windoze messed up together) |
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| 10:36.48 | ntz | scoofy: please, there's something like #debian-social .. and moreover I witness now that you waste your time even here by sharing inane points |
| 10:37.04 | scoofy | indeed. bye. |
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| 10:37.18 | anev | delightful fellow |
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| 10:37.57 | ntz | anev: I'm sometimes also frustrated from debian :) |
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| 10:38.04 | anev | ntz: :) |
| 10:38.05 | SynrGy | ntz: i agree that he didn't seem to *want* to be helped, but reinforcing his notion that debian is "too hard" for noobs isn't helping |
| 10:38.22 | SynrGy | instead of focusing on the core issue: not being cooperative |
| 10:38.25 | Haohmaru | can't find info about these "uid" and "gid" things for fstab |
| 10:38.58 | ntz | SynrGy: I understand to your point but I suggested to him that if he lacks a skill like he was exposing he'd give a try to something else like buntu .. it was not anything but that |
| 10:39.36 | anev | Haohmaru: mount the partition and use bklid to get the uuid - see https://wiki.debian.org/fstab |
| 10:39.38 | ntz | Haohmaru: man mount.ntfs-3g |
| 10:39.45 | SynrGy | ime, hitting problems you can't solve in ubuntu is more likely to lead to wanting to throw yourself under a bus than with debian |
| 10:39.47 | ntz | Haohmaru: first option described in manual |
| 10:39.48 | SynrGy | but that'sjust me |
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| 10:40.11 | anev | SynrGy: ha |
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| 10:40.49 | ntz | Haohmaru: that's what I'm going to do .. I hyave in debian several problems which I can't pass over and no rhca and whateber else (like 15 years unix pro) would help me :P |
| 10:41.47 | Haohmaru | it's very hard to read a whole sentence of text when my monitor resets every 5 seconds and i get frustrated all the time when i forget what i was looking at just now |
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| 10:42.43 | anev | Haohmaru: get a new monitor or ssh in from another usable system.. |
| 10:42.51 | Haohmaru | i can't |
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| 10:43.15 | anev | i'd endeavour to sorting that problem first before worrying about automatically mounting partitions |
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| 10:44.12 | ntz | can anybody help me with following issue :: in all debians I have got under my administration (I didn't want it, i'm rhel/centos guy) doesn't work in bash pgup/down history autocompletiton .. I'm very very used on this feature .. is there a way to enable it ? |
| 10:45.35 | Haohmaru | anev, i lost two days and couldn't fix that.. i think it's because of the VGA cable.. the videocard only has DVI and the cable uses a converter |
| 10:46.12 | ntz | Haohmaru: what gfx card you have ? |
| 10:46.25 | Haohmaru | some nvidia, no idea what |
| 10:46.27 | anev | ntz: sounds like you just need to add a key binding to ~/.xinputrc |
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| 10:47.05 | ntz | Haohmaru: do you use a closed "nvidia" blob or nouveau ? |
| 10:47.08 | anev | ntz: uhh ~/.inputrc - have a look at http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1030182/how-do-i-change-bash-history-completion-to-complete-whats-already-on-the-line |
| 10:47.11 | Haohmaru | anyway.. i cannot spend another second thinking about the flickering monitor |
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| 10:47.26 | Haohmaru | i need to get going with other stuff |
| 10:47.29 | ntz | anev: gimme a second to test it but I'm afraid I tried this |
| 10:48.04 | Haohmaru | like figuring out how to see the win7 partition |
| 10:48.08 | Haohmaru | >:/ |
| 10:49.34 | ntz | anev: thanks .. I don't understand to it hence I tried it but now it works |
| 10:49.38 | ntz | anev++ |
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| 11:04.49 | anev | ntz: nice :) |
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| 11:07.51 | Iridos | anonnumberanon, was busy with someone locally... no, I meant the bit of the file that the picture shows... it was so that I could test the script-snippet I gave to you (but then I got interrupted here, so I just gave you the untested line) |
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| 11:08.44 | Iridos | anonnumberanon, and... it's a substitution-pattern that will (hopefully correctly) strip the big encoded entries from your file |
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| 11:19.35 | octoid | Is liquorix.net down at the moment? |
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| 11:20.45 | ntz | octoid: http://www.downforeveryoneorjustme.com/ |
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| 11:21.05 | octoid | ntz: Just rememebered, and used it.. down for all apparently :( |
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| 11:22.18 | ntz | :) |
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| 11:29.26 | ntz | anev: and one more problem here (in second debian 7.8) .. when I type `ps -ef' the list of all processes surprisingly does not appear |
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| 11:34.16 | ntz | anev: http://susepaste.org/view/raw/c6f1d088 |
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| 11:34.24 | ntz | ^^ is this normal .. WTF is that ????? |
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| 11:37.27 | anonnumberanon | Iridos, well I wrote a C program that gave me all the urls but I get 2000 urls when I only had approximately 60 tabs... |
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| 11:37.46 | anonnumberanon | Iridos, I don't really know how to use sed yet I'm trying to learn. |
| 11:38.56 | anonnumberanon | Iridos, so I literally have to do this? |
| 11:38.57 | anonnumberanon | mv sessionstore.js sessionstore.js.ori; sed 's/"owner_b64":"[^"]*",//" |
| 11:39.05 | jelly | ntz: hidepid mount option for /proc in place? |
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| 11:41.03 | ntz | jelly: indeed, thanks, didn't know it .. hidepid=2 |
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| 11:41.39 | jelly | ntz: it's not default in debian, someone or something has put it there |
| 11:41.44 | wachpwnski | using notify-send is there a way I can send an image in the body? |
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| 11:43.16 | ntz | jelly: interesting that if you open the mount manpage and find there "mount options for proc" it's not documented |
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| 11:43.52 | ntz | jelly: and JFYI, it was not someone but it was something .. aliens are not humans |
| 11:43.59 | ntz | :P |
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| 11:44.39 | jelly | ntz: that's a bug. Likely reason is this 3.4 feature got backported to 3.2 (that Debian uses) around 2012 and noone bothered to backport the documentation |
| 11:45.26 | ntz | hmm, thanks |
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| 11:49.38 | Voyager82 | Hi, I hope this is the proper channel to ask. What is a pretty good alternative, in your opinion, to Adobe Flash Player? I know the the HTML 5 is spreading, but there are still many videos available only in Flash format. It seems that the current versions of Flash don't support the hardware acceleration of my video card. |
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| 11:52.14 | relaxed | Voyager82: Did you try google chrome? It ships with the latest version installed. |
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| 11:52.56 | petn-randall | Voyager82: There's gnu gnash, a free replacement for Adobe flash. It's good enough to play videos. |
| 11:53.10 | Voyager82 | relaxed, I didn't. But I think that the problem is in Flash itself. The fact that doesn't support video acceleration for my card, and overloads my CPU. |
| 11:53.12 | octoid | Voyager82: If you get really stuck, it pretty much boils down to fetching scripts like 'youtube-dl' and piping to mplayer/vlc |
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| 11:53.34 | knosys | hi |
| 11:53.43 | jelly | Voyager82: chrome has a different version and build of adobe flash than what you're using now |
| 11:54.10 | jelly | that plugin is also usable from chromium |
| 11:54.19 | Voyager82 | Is it Chrome open-source? |
| 11:54.37 | knosys | guys how to check which driver is using Xorg? I want to be sure of which one is the one currently being used noveau or the propietary nvidia |
| 11:54.51 | jelly | Voyager82: not really, but chromium is |
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| 11:55.16 | octoid | knosys: glxinfo from mesa-utils will show you something, that or check /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 11:55.27 | jelly | chrome bundles closed source components, like the flash plugin itself |
| 11:55.40 | Voyager82 | What I do now, usually, is to download the video through "downloadhelper", and watch it through Totem. :) |
| 11:56.04 | knosys | octoid: I already checked the log, but it was on /etc/X11/Xorg.0.log i think, anyway i didnt found usefull information about the driver there |
| 11:56.13 | McErroneous | which apt-packet do i have to install for GNU-gpl LICENSE ? |
| 11:56.25 | knosys | but i see it is using the xorg config file i created, with my gpu example decive i used |
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| 11:57.22 | octoid | knosys: Odd, not sure why you can't see which driver is being used there.. glxinfo should help though |
| 11:58.14 | McErroneous | why is debian old iso-images to difficult to retrieve ? is it a matter of public interest ? |
| 11:58.17 | knosys | no such command |
| 11:58.32 | octoid | knosys: It is part of mesa-utils if memory serves |
| 11:58.41 | McErroneous | all iso-images should be available in iso-format at least |
| 11:58.49 | knosys | ok thanks |
| 11:58.50 | octoid | knosys: You should have a /var/log/Xorg.0.log though :? |
| 11:58.54 | Voyager82 | Thank you very much. I'm going to go, for now. |
| 11:58.58 | anev | ntz: the kcore file? |
| 11:58.58 | petn-randall | McErroneous: How old are we talking? |
| 11:58.59 | knosys | I will check it out |
| 11:59.00 | McErroneous | debian 4 is jigsaw only |
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| 11:59.16 | Iridos | anonnumberanon, the session also preserves the history of each tab... |
| 11:59.34 | anev | ntz: it's a RAM snapshot of your system when you put it into hibernation |
| 11:59.55 | ntz | hmm |
| 11:59.58 | knosys | is weird, no info about drivers octoid |
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| 12:00.04 | ntz | thanks for a points |
| 12:00.06 | knosys | just "automatically adding drivers" |
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| 12:00.39 | knosys | ops sorry "automatically adding devices" |
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| 12:00.48 | anonnumberanon | Iridos, so it seems heh. |
| 12:00.56 | petn-randall | McErroneous: Interest fades in unsupported releases, so you'll only find old releases like this, yes. |
| 12:01.23 | McErroneous | petn-randall: , who is in charge ? |
| 12:02.02 | knosys | ok i found some info about nvidia drivers in the log, thanks octoid |
| 12:02.34 | octoid | knosys: np |
| 12:02.50 | petn-randall | McErroneous: Who is in charge of what? |
| 12:03.08 | knosys | octoid: do you know something about libgl? I am having problems with those libraries after installing nvidia drivers |
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| 12:03.12 | knosys | with some games |
| 12:03.16 | knosys | Cant run them |
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| 12:03.58 | McErroneous | tell him to put a petn-randall who is in charge of the debian online mirrors (old releases) |
| 12:04.48 | octoid | knosys: maybe those need the 32-bit version, check whats required for steam on jessie: https://wiki.debian.org/Steam |
| 12:05.12 | knosys | thanks |
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| 12:07.15 | petn-randall | McErroneous: I have no interest in maintaining old releases. If you need any old CD images, you can easily generate them with jigdo. |
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| 12:07.21 | babilen | Is there a way to switch the default/preferred application (web browser) for Gnome without the gnome-control-centre? I basically want to teach gnome-terminal to use a different browser and I've changed it everywhere but there (alternative system), but don't necessarily want to install the control centre only for that. Checked in {gconf,dconf}-editor, but didn't find anything. |
| 12:08.32 | McErroneous | petn-randall: are you a politician ? are you actually listening what people are asking for ? |
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| 12:09.57 | octoid | babilen: Guess you could use 'update-alternatives' |
| 12:11.08 | babilen | octoid: I've done that already |
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| 12:11.16 | octoid | babilen: ah |
| 12:11.52 | babilen | Gnome keeps that information *somewhere* too, but I fail to find it :) |
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| 12:12.02 | petn-randall | babilen: You can always pull in control centre, do the changes, and remove it again ;) |
| 12:12.12 | babilen | Ah, well .. I'll just install the control centre and ... ^^^^ |
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| 12:12.17 | babilen | grumbles |
| 12:12.29 | octoid | babilen: Good luck, cwm user here! :) |
| 12:12.45 | petn-randall | babilen: It could quite possibly be that it creates keys in dconf that didn't exist before, so I would spend too much time searching ... :) |
| 12:12.51 | bazhang | http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/ <--- what release you need there mcerr |
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| 12:12.58 | bazhang | ah quit |
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| 12:14.43 | babilen | hah! |
| 12:15.10 | babilen | Founds it: ~/.config/mimeapps.list |
| 12:15.16 | Melissa_ | If I'm on Jessie, is it save to install one package (with dependencies) from sid? |
| 12:15.25 | bazhang | those seem to be straight up releases, not sure why jigdo is needed |
| 12:15.28 | Melissa_ | The package I'm looking for isn't available for jessie |
| 12:15.45 | bazhang | what package |
| 12:16.06 | Melissa_ | fish |
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| 12:16.56 | babilen | dpkg: tell Melissa_ -about jsm |
| 12:17.02 | Melissa_ | There was a security leak. It got fixed, but I read that it would not be available for jessie even though it's released on stable and sid |
| 12:17.07 | Melissa_ | let me check it out |
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| 12:17.19 | sep | 02 |
| 12:17.19 | sep | 0 |
| 12:17.41 | babilen | Melissa_: It is a fairly common setup, but note that at this point in the release cycle you'll have some packages in sid that are not meant to ever transition into testing |
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| 12:18.35 | babilen | Melissa_: And yes, it is necessary to pull in packages from unstable into testing in various situations and the need to fix a security related problem is a prime example. |
| 12:19.14 | babilen | (also configuring unstable in your sources.list allows the package manager to come up with more sensible solutions during transitions, but lets discuss this in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net) |
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| 12:20.34 | petn-randall | bazhang: There's not a complete set of ISOs in the old releases. |
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| 12:21.00 | bazhang | petn-randall, ok thanks |
| 12:21.35 | bazhang | it was more searching for mcerrquitsosoonues than myself |
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| 12:22.30 | jelly | ,v ffmpeg |
| 12:22.31 | judd | Package: ffmpeg on i386 -- squeeze: 4:0.5.10-1; squeeze-security: 4:0.5.10-1; squeeze-security-lts: 4:0.5.10-1+deb6u1; squeeze-multimedia: 5:0.7.16-dmo1; squeeze-backports: 6:0.8.6-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 6:0.8.16-1; wheezy-security: 6:0.8.16-1; sid: 7:2.5.1-1; wheezy-multimedia: 8:1.0.10-dmo1; jessie-multimedia: 10:2.5.2-dmo1; sid-multimedia: 10:2.5.3-dmo1 |
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| 12:23.10 | jelly | ^^ won't be in jessie because reasons |
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| 12:23.32 | bazhang | avconv instead? |
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| 12:24.29 | jelly | fuck no |
| 12:24.45 | jelly | (different syntax, different bugset) |
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| 12:25.05 | bazhang | mpv or some other replacement? |
| 12:25.12 | bazhang | not sure about that name |
| 12:25.30 | Shadow_7 | libav-utils? |
| 12:25.49 | bazhang | thats avconv iirc |
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| 12:26.07 | Shadow_7 | and what's currently in jessie afaik |
| 12:26.39 | Shadow_7 | aside from the bugs, more performant humanized syntax |
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| 12:28.39 | Shadow_7 | as in I can actually screen capture at > 1 fps with avconv |
| 12:29.05 | Shadow_7 | even though 2007 called and want their tech back |
| 12:29.07 | knosys | guys: "error whie loading shared libraries libGL.so.1; cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 12:29.07 | knosys | do someone know that error? |
| 12:29.18 | knosys | its after installing nvidia propietary drivers |
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| 12:29.26 | bach1d__ | uyujyt |
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| 12:29.58 | knosys | I have installed libg1-mesa-glx:386 and libglu also... but no luck |
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| 12:30.28 | Shadow_7 | knosys: freeglut, mesa-utils, and others |
| 12:30.58 | knosys | ill try with mesa-utils |
| 12:31.04 | Shadow_7 | the nvidia drivers messes with kernel things so a reboot? |
| 12:31.15 | knosys | but libgl1 isnt in libgl1-mesa-glx? |
| 12:31.23 | octoid | knosys: and libgl1-nvidia-glx:i386? |
| 12:31.39 | knosys | yes i installed that one octoid |
| 12:31.46 | octoid | umm |
| 12:31.46 | Shadow_7 | if you ever ran an ATI/AMD gpu it's proprietary driver overwrites libGL |
| 12:31.48 | knosys | and purged and reinstalled too |
| 12:32.08 | knosys | nope, from noveau to nvidia |
| 12:32.23 | knosys | created xorg config file and rebooted |
| 12:32.23 | knosys | then cant run some games |
| 12:32.26 | knosys | getting that error |
| 12:32.37 | octoid | What is the error again? knosys |
| 12:32.41 | Shadow_7 | knosys: find /usr/lib/ -iname '*libgl*' |
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| 12:32.50 | knosys | error whie loading shared libraries libGL.so.1; cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 12:33.14 | Shadow_7 | you might have to manually create the libGL.so.1 link to the actual libGL.so that exists |
| 12:34.19 | knosys | ive lot a lot of themi made the find command and i see lot of results |
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| 12:34.54 | Shadow_7 | any that match libGL.so.1 ? |
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| 12:35.24 | Shadow_7 | knosys: perhaps an LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/lib/... before the app that throws the error. |
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| 12:36.07 | knosys | yes a few |
| 12:36.08 | knosys | inside nvidia folder |
| 12:36.32 | knosys | and outside it , in x86-x64-linux-gnu dir |
| 12:36.37 | knosys | there is another one |
| 12:36.40 | Shadow_7 | mesa-utils gives the glxinfo command to see what driver(s) are actually in use |
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| 12:37.54 | knosys | i checked the xorg log to be sure that they are nvidia |
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| 12:37.56 | knosys | the one actualy in use |
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| 12:38.28 | knosys | what do you mean with LD_LIBRARY_PATH mefore the app that throws the error? |
| 12:38.41 | feurd | Hi. I'm trying to configure the media keys of my laptop (Lenovo T440s) to work properly. I use 'xev' to identify the keycode. Unfortunately, most of the keys return this output : http://paste.ubuntu.com/9746404/ . Does anyone know what it means, and how I can define the behaviour of these keys? |
| 12:38.42 | Shadow_7 | the libGL.so determines if you're using software or hardware acceleration. so if the vender in glxinfo is mesa, it's software |
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| 12:39.40 | knosys | it should be hardware i hope |
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| 12:40.07 | Shadow_7 | you can know with : glxinfo | more |
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| 12:40.29 | knosys | ill need to install mesa-utils... |
| 12:40.49 | Shadow_7 | so... : sudo apt-get install mesa-utils |
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| 12:43.20 | knosys | vendor nvidia corp |
| 12:43.21 | knosys | :) |
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| 12:43.49 | Iridos | knosys, what command gives you the error |
| 12:44.03 | knosys | ./gameclient |
| 12:44.12 | Iridos | ... |
| 12:44.50 | Iridos | and that runs some 32-bit game? |
| 12:45.03 | knosys | probable |
| 12:45.03 | knosys | probably* |
| 12:45.10 | knosys | i think its for 32bit , yes |
| 12:45.16 | knosys | cant be 100% sure |
| 12:45.38 | Iridos | dpkg, tell knosys -about apt-file |
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| 12:46.49 | knosys | I think i already have the file |
| 12:46.55 | knosys | but i would need to link it to different location |
| 12:46.57 | Iridos | libgl1-nvidia-glx has that file, so does libgl1-mesa-glx ... and because of that it can be a bit difficult |
| 12:46.58 | knosys | and thats what i dont know |
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| 12:47.23 | Iridos | sticking to packages from debian this doesn't happen... |
| 12:47.53 | knosys | which you mean? propietary drivers? |
| 12:48.08 | Iridos | knosys, you can always strace -f -e open ./gameclient and see what it tries to open ... you can also ldd the actual elf-binary |
| 12:48.31 | Iridos | no, I mean you're trying to execute a random program from somewhere... that's always like that |
| 12:48.47 | knosys | Ahh |
| 12:48.48 | knosys | right |
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| 12:49.17 | knosys | anyway it worked with noveau |
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| 12:49.53 | knosys | the same software, after installing the nvidia drivers i had problems with those libraries |
| 12:49.58 | knosys | couldnt run it anymore |
| 12:50.47 | Shadow_7 | you may need to uninstall nouveau to use nvidia |
| 12:50.59 | knosys | its probably blacklisted |
| 12:51.08 | Shadow_7 | especially if you installed the proprietary driver |
| 12:51.12 | knosys | i am not using noveau.. i know it because of the resolution at startup |
| 12:51.19 | Shadow_7 | with their installer |
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| 12:52.10 | Shadow_7 | knosys: but there's other parts that share similar names that could conflict. dpkg-divert |
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| 12:52.39 | knosys | hum |
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| 12:54.05 | knosys | never heard about the need of get rid about them |
| 12:54.16 | knosys | i though it was enought creating xorg config file and rebooting |
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| 12:54.28 | knosys | anything points that im using nvidia driver, not noveau |
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| 12:55.41 | knosys | everything* |
| 12:57.14 | matthias__ | hello i have problems sending mails with the php mail-function. i can receive emails with my gmail address, but for example @gmx.net is not working for receiving them. i am sending the mails trough a .tk domain, i have owned. here is the mail.log file https://bpaste.net/show/6ebab75bcda4 |
| 12:57.44 | knosys | Iridos: i made the strace and there is this thing open("/lib/i386-linux-gnu/libGL.so.1", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) |
| 12:57.49 | scoofy | installed debian. how do i set screen resolution? |
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| 12:57.57 | knosys | that doesnt exist |
| 12:57.57 | scoofy | i hate gnome |
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| 12:58.04 | knosys | so i will have to make a link there? |
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| 12:58.27 | scoofy | why is that there's no right-click menu anywhere? this is totally unintuitive |
| 12:58.57 | scoofy | and WTF is this 'activities' |
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| 13:00.04 | Shadow_7 | scoofy: xrandr can adjust that after booting |
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| 13:01.30 | scoofy | ok, i'll just remove this crap |
| 13:01.43 | scoofy | how can i install xfce? apt-get install xfce4? |
| 13:01.57 | harmaahy1je | scoofy: yeah |
| 13:02.12 | Iridos | knosys, or set LD_LIBRARY_PATH ... but actually it should be covered by ld and the regular runpath |
| 13:02.12 | scoofy | i hate when windows fly around my screen |
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| 13:02.56 | scoofy | this gnome (or whatever the default desktop environment) is so unintuitive that it is painful |
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| 13:03.28 | knosys | scoofy you can switch to gnome classic (I dont know if that could help) |
| 13:03.39 | scoofy | at boot? |
| 13:04.00 | knosys | mmm yes, you set it the first time, and it will remember the choice |
| 13:04.11 | knosys | then always you login it will load the gnome classic |
| 13:04.24 | scoofy | ah. at last. a sane DE |
| 13:04.47 | knosys | i dont liked new gnome version either |
| 13:05.05 | scoofy | 'gnome classic' is fine |
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| 13:05.58 | scoofy | why is there no 'right-click menu' anywhere? |
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| 13:06.17 | scoofy | ah... you got to ALT + right-click... |
| 13:06.22 | scoofy | ...why that extra key? |
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| 13:06.39 | knosys | Iridos what is that? :S |
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| 13:08.58 | scoofy | how can i remove the 'bluetooth' icon in Gnome Classic? |
| 13:09.02 | scoofy | i don't have bluetooth |
| 13:09.13 | scoofy | i dont' want it to be tehre |
| 13:09.29 | scoofy | and why the 'bluetooth' icon is 3 icons wide? |
| 13:09.33 | scoofy | takes up lot of space |
| 13:09.43 | scoofy | and even totally useless as I have no bluetooth |
| 13:09.48 | jeezy | are you getting bluetooth soon? |
| 13:09.51 | scoofy | never. |
| 13:09.57 | jeezy | oh |
| 13:10.03 | scoofy | so why is it even there |
| 13:10.34 | scoofy | and why no option to remove it |
| 13:10.44 | scoofy | and why it takes 3 icons space |
| 13:11.03 | supferrets | https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/125/bluetooth-icon-remover/ |
| 13:11.32 | scoofy | extensions..... |
| 13:11.42 | scoofy | did Gnome turn into Firefox? |
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| 13:12.16 | scoofy | btw the link seems to be broken, does not give extension |
| 13:12.31 | scoofy | oh, found it. |
| 13:12.50 | scoofy | just the shortcut was broken |
| 13:13.12 | Shadow_7 | I just use cwm. No decorations of any kind. So roomy |
| 13:13.20 | scoofy | cwm? |
| 13:13.32 | jeezy | :) |
| 13:13.52 | Shadow_7 | calm window manager |
| 13:14.13 | Shadow_7 | no debian package yet though, but 6k-ish lines of code so fast to compile |
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| 13:16.31 | langesmalle | Hi, Anyone experience with PXE server installation using aptly mirror/repo? |
| 13:16.33 | jeezy | Shadow_7: i use dwm sometimes and it is pretty snappy |
| 13:16.40 | abrotman | Shadow_7: you need tritium! |
| 13:16.42 | abrotman | hides |
| 13:16.44 | scoofy | i hate the new iceweasel |
| 13:16.47 | scoofy | just as i hate the new firefox |
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| 13:17.11 | Shadow_7 | jeezy: not a fan of tiling |
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| 13:17.22 | scoofy | why hide the menu? and why not add an option to unhide the menu? |
| 13:17.33 | jeezy | usually enlightenment+docky |
| 13:17.36 | Shadow_7 | but I do use the suckless tools from dwm |
| 13:17.42 | jeezy | nice |
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| 13:17.56 | Shadow_7 | scoofy: https://github.com/chneukirchen/cwm |
| 13:18.21 | pksadiq | scoofy: You have short cuts though in iceweasel: Alt+F, Alt+T etc., I think |
| 13:18.44 | scoofy | yes, why press ALT ? annoying |
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| 13:19.00 | scoofy | i.e. cannot click menu with MOUSE ONLY, need to use keyboard... |
| 13:19.44 | scoofy | there's this 'menu thingie' on the right, that does unrelated things |
| 13:20.09 | scoofy | i want to delete this |
| 13:20.16 | scoofy | maybe i will |
| 13:20.20 | scoofy | and install some other OS |
| 13:20.53 | scoofy | why do all browsers suck? |
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| 13:21.12 | Ticho | go write a better one :) |
| 13:21.25 | scoofy | soon i'll have no other option |
| 13:21.35 | scoofy | as they get worse and worse |
| 13:21.57 | knosys | the strace http://paste.debian.net/140618/ -- the find /usr/lib/ -iname '*libgl*' http://paste.debian.net/140620/ if it could help |
| 13:22.14 | scoofy | WHY NO RIGHT CLICK MENU ON DESKTOP??????????? |
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| 13:22.28 | scoofy | i mean, it's soooo intiutive to instead click on "mymenu" >>> system settings >>> displays |
| 13:22.38 | scoofy | why do it with 1 click, when we can do it with 3 clicks? |
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| 13:23.03 | scoofy | nah, using 1 click to adjust settings is lame... pros do it with 3 clicks |
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| 13:23.42 | Shadow_7 | or 9 if you use windows... as in number of clicks needed to reboot to UEFI bios from windows 8 |
| 13:23.45 | scoofy | "taking features away" is a stupid software trend nowadays |
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| 13:24.43 | scoofy | ok, no more "gnome classic", thanks |
| 13:24.53 | scoofy | let's try something else |
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| 13:27.32 | scoofy | switched to XFCE |
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| 13:27.36 | scoofy | terminal emulator doesn't work |
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| 13:27.40 | scoofy | get a black box with nothing in it |
| 13:29.12 | scoofy | ...and it cannot set my display resolution to it's native display, 1280x1024, so it looks blocky and shitty from resampling |
| 13:29.23 | scoofy | in other resolution, the edges of the desktop are not visible |
| 13:30.22 | scoofy | ok, figured out the resolution. terminal still doesn't work |
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| 13:30.55 | scoofy | and my background image is not stretched to the size properly |
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| 13:32.21 | octoid | scoofy: Better post that to the bug tracker, try not to get eye-strain whilst your waiting for the devs to fix that for you! ;) |
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| 13:33.44 | langesmalle | moone with any experience with Aptly? |
| 13:34.00 | langesmalle | *Nobody* |
| 13:34.00 | scoofy | octoid: or just delete it |
| 13:34.05 | scoofy | and install something else |
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| 13:34.20 | knosys | octoid: scoofy ; could anyone help me to figure this out? -> the strace http://paste.debian.net/140618/ -- the find /usr/lib/ -iname '*libgl*' http://paste.debian.net/140620/ if it could help |
| 13:34.22 | scoofy | let's try lxdew |
| 13:34.25 | scoofy | -w |
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| 13:34.46 | scoofy | any other DE recommended? |
| 13:34.56 | octoid | scoofy: cwm ftw |
| 13:35.32 | scoofy | does a deb package exist? or i have to compile? |
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| 13:36.12 | petn-randall | !tell langesmalle -about anyone |
| 13:36.28 | octoid | knosys: I've not setup nvidia on debian for a while, but I had no problems with i386 executables (steam in this case) |
| 13:36.33 | octoid | scoofy: package in jessie |
| 13:37.23 | octoid | knosys: I installed the nvidia blob (from the repo), and followed the instructions on the debian wiki for steam (the i386 additions) and all was well |
| 13:38.10 | ntz | starts seriously hating this medieval tool of torture - what debian is |
| 13:38.49 | petn-randall | flails ntz with a 23 CD set of wheezy. |
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| 13:39.04 | knosys | libgl1-mesa-glx:i386 is already installed on my system and still not working |
| 13:39.11 | knosys | in the strace it try to find the library in a different directory |
| 13:39.12 | knosys | so it wont find it |
| 13:39.43 | ntz | throws on petn-randall what debian_version says: 6.0.3 |
| 13:40.07 | octoid | knosys: All that can likely be worked around with LD path/preload.. but you really shouldn't have to |
| 13:40.17 | ntz | also reminds, that almost nothing changed in this system since 98/98 when ntz was debian user |
| 13:40.20 | petn-randall | ntz: Ha, you can't get me, I'm already on 8.0! |
| 13:40.37 | SirLagz | petn-randall: go to OFTC where you belong ! |
| 13:40.41 | SirLagz | hides his Debian 8 boxes |
| 13:40.43 | octoid | knosys: I'm not sure about the 'mesa-diverted' stuff in your pastebin - I don't remember seeing that last time I setup nvidia |
| 13:41.05 | ntz | petn-randall: pff. I have here a bunch of servers in production which I am supposed to administere, not my choice either |
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| 13:42.45 | lopho | I want to suggest using spdy module by default in the next nginx release |
| 13:43.07 | lopho | can't wait for the next nginx stable with PageSpeed :) |
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| 13:43.49 | knosys | octoid: just a bit down of them its the nvidia directory |
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| 13:47.16 | scoofy | ok, i decided i'll stay with LXDE |
| 13:47.37 | octoid | knosys: I would do a clean install, apt-get install nvidia-driver; dpkg --add-architecture i386; apt-get update; apt-get install libgl1-nvidia-glx:i386 .. and you should be good to go |
| 13:49.33 | knosys | ok thanks man i will try |
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| 13:53.50 | knosys | octoid: nvidia-driver is in backports? |
| 13:54.29 | octoid | knosys: not sure, its in non-free for jessie |
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| 13:55.13 | knosys | non-free i added that one |
| 13:55.26 | knosys | but the package i installed then was nvidia-kernel-dkms |
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| 13:57.33 | octoid | knosys: ah, you should just use 'nvidia-driver' as far as I remember |
| 13:58.00 | knosys | cant find the package, maybe its in backports only |
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| 13:58.29 | octoid | knosys: I have it here on jessie, you on Wheezy? |
| 13:58.45 | knosys | I have wheezy yes |
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| 13:59.37 | scoofy | 160 MB out of 4 GB mem used. nice. yesterday I installed Win7, and the update installer alone consumed 2.7 GB of memory. |
| 13:59.43 | octoid | knosys: Ah.. |
| 13:59.59 | octoid | knosys: In that case follow the wiki https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers#Version_340.65_.28via_wheezy-backports.29 |
| 14:00.38 | octoid | knosys: I've only used nvidia with debian on jessie though.. if you don't have a reason to stick with Wheezy, I'd be very tempted to upgrade to jessie |
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| 14:02.10 | octoid | knosys: If this is a desktop/gaming system for your use I would definitlely move to jessie - I'd only use wheezy for server/production tasks now |
| 14:02.25 | knosys | i had problems finding jessie the day i downloaded the ISO, but i wanted. I have to say i was browsing the directories with a mobile device... |
| 14:02.31 | Zharf | sid for life! |
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| 14:02.57 | jelly | !sidsmite Zharf |
| 14:02.58 | dpkg | smacks Zharf with a crippling libstdc++5 bug |
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| 14:03.03 | scoofy | there's no icon for volume control in lxde. |
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| 14:03.53 | scoofy | Right-Click > Sound Preferences brings up a totally empty window, titled "System Settings". |
| 14:04.00 | knosys | ok done i am not having the error anymore octoid |
| 14:04.12 | octoid | knosys: all working? |
| 14:04.20 | knosys | i think it was the libgl1-nvidia-glx:i386 |
| 14:04.26 | knosys | installing them solved the problem |
| 14:04.31 | octoid | Ah excellent :) |
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| 14:04.41 | knosys | yes thanks you |
| 14:04.48 | octoid | np |
| 14:04.54 | knosys | I am installing jessie soon probably |
| 14:06.01 | Aut0Exec | is it possible to upgrade from debian wheezy 32bit to debian \ |
| 14:06.07 | Aut0Exec | ? |
| 14:06.12 | Aut0Exec | debian jessie 64bit |
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| 14:06.39 | ChrisH | Aut0Exec: offically not. |
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| 14:06.57 | Aut0Exec | ok |
| 14:07.01 | Aut0Exec | any harm ? |
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| 14:12.20 | scoofy | how to turn off "displaying your home folder on desktop" in LXDE |
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| 14:13.31 | scoofy | there were some stupid folders Desktop, Music, Videos & shit so i deleted all. since, everything appears on my desktop |
| 14:13.37 | scoofy | (who ever uses such folders?) |
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| 14:13.50 | scoofy | now how do i undo this without reinstalling everything |
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| 14:16.38 | scoofy | bangs head into wall |
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| 14:17.32 | hassoon_flies | scoofy: why |
| 14:17.42 | scoofy | because I cannot make icons disappear from my desktop |
| 14:17.56 | scoofy | i deleted ~/Desktop folder, and since, LXDE things ~ is my desktop |
| 14:18.04 | scoofy | so it displays all teh shit on my screen |
| 14:18.13 | scoofy | and no way to undo it |
| 14:18.24 | scoofy | seems I have to start reinstalling the system entirely (so ~1 hour wasted) |
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| 14:19.13 | darxmurf | hi all |
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| 14:20.21 | scoofy | apt-get --purge remove lxde; apt-get install lxde didn't fix it, of course |
| 14:21.49 | scoofy | which config file sets what is my desktop?; |
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| 14:22.36 | Shadow_7 | scoofy: depends on how you start x |
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| 14:22.54 | Shadow_7 | scoofy: ~/.xinitrc if you use startx |
| 14:22.55 | scoofy | i clicked on my user name, and entered password. |
| 14:23.18 | Shadow_7 | scoofy: there should be a dropdown at that login with selections |
| 14:23.25 | scoofy | ..and? |
| 14:23.53 | scoofy | i mean... all files in my home folder appear on my desktop. |
| 14:23.54 | scoofy | i do not want that. |
| 14:24.01 | scoofy | that is, in LXDE. |
| 14:24.28 | Shadow_7 | scoofy: normally ~/Desktop/ contents end up there |
| 14:24.45 | scoofy | yes |
| 14:24.50 | scoofy | but I DELETED that fucking file |
| 14:24.58 | scoofy | and since, ~ became my desktop. |
| 14:25.14 | scoofy | how do I undo that? (without reformnat / reinstall everything) |
| 14:25.24 | Shadow_7 | scoofy: mkdir ~/Desktop |
| 14:25.26 | octoid | Might want to recreate those directories: xdg-user-dirs-update; xdg-user-dirs-update --force |
| 14:25.34 | scoofy | Shadow_7: guess what - that doesn't help! |
| 14:25.46 | scoofy | still ~ is my desktop. So i have a "Desktop" folder inside my "desktop". |
| 14:25.53 | scoofy | after mkdir ~/Desktop |
| 14:25.56 | Shadow_7 | scoofy: or apt-file find ... and apt-get install --reinstall ... |
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| 14:26.14 | scoofy | reinstall what? i tried apt-get --purge remove lxde; apt-get install lxde |
| 14:26.15 | Shadow_7 | scoofy: you have to restart the DE ofc |
| 14:26.19 | scoofy | ofcoz i did |
| 14:26.24 | scoofy | log out/back in a few times - no luck |
| 14:26.28 | scoofy | same in XFCE |
| 14:26.37 | octoid | Those directories are handled by xdg-user-dirs-update |
| 14:26.56 | petn-randall | scoofy: lxde probably has a config option to define which directory is "Desktop". Find that and set it. |
| 14:27.05 | scoofy | yes, THAT IS WHAT I AM ASKING |
| 14:27.11 | Shadow_7 | so... dpkg-reconfigure xdg-user-dirs-update ? |
| 14:27.11 | scoofy | which is that file? |
| 14:27.21 | petn-randall | scoofy: It's not in any package, since it's a user-specific option. |
| 14:27.29 | petn-randall | Shadow_7: ^^^^ |
| 14:27.46 | scoofy | also, why make those annoying dirs? |
| 14:27.47 | scoofy | lame |
| 14:27.51 | scoofy | i never use them |
| 14:28.03 | scoofy | can that be turned off altogether? |
| 14:28.06 | petn-randall | scoofy: Why are you asking then? Just don't use them. |
| 14:28.13 | Shadow_7 | scoofy: I use cwm. don't have that issue. |
| 14:28.25 | darxmurf | is there a way to rescann my hardware RAID to find the new arrays I created ? |
| 14:28.31 | scoofy | because.... after I deleted them, everything in my home folder appears on my desktop, and it's annoying??? |
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| 14:28.49 | scoofy | I don't just want to 'not use' them, I also want them to be "not there" because they're just plain annoying |
| 14:28.58 | scoofy | why have stupid auto-generated empty files in my home folder? retarded |
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| 14:29.23 | scoofy | and that xdg-user-dirs-update doesn't work |
| 14:29.31 | scoofy | says it's not installed |
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| 14:30.02 | scoofy | so... i have to reformat my HDD and reinstall? |
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| 14:30.42 | scoofy | lame |
| 14:31.07 | scoofy | is there a way to somehow avoid auto-generating those stupid empty folders? |
| 14:31.18 | scoofy | ...when I reinstall again? |
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| 14:31.42 | Shadow_7 | some of those are created by the web browser |
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| 14:31.54 | scoofy | maybe, Downloads. |
| 14:31.56 | scoofy | but I deleted that. |
| 14:32.09 | Shadow_7 | I tend to use a user (that didn't start x) for web browsing |
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| 14:32.49 | scoofy | ok, will reinstall from zero - about a hour of work lost |
| 14:32.55 | octoid | Odd, xdg-user-dirs is installed as part of the standard system utilities task |
| 14:32.57 | scoofy | as i have no idea how to undo this shit |
| 14:33.05 | scoofy | hell, I was not even logged in as root.... |
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| 14:33.12 | scoofy | when I messed this up |
| 14:33.16 | scoofy | how is that even possible? |
| 14:33.20 | octoid | pure skill ;) |
| 14:33.36 | scoofy | meh... |
| 14:33.41 | Shadow_7 | scoofy: there's probably some ~/.??? file that's the issue |
| 14:33.51 | scoofy | when I run xdg-users-dirs, nothing happens. |
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| 14:34.07 | scoofy | *-update |
| 14:34.29 | scoofy | no man page available |
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| 14:34.51 | scoofy | eh. --force does something.... made my dekstop full of idiot icons again... |
| 14:34.52 | octoid | 14:25 < octoid> Might want to recreate those directories: xdg-user-dirs-update; xdg-user-dirs-update --force |
| 14:35.08 | scoofy | not much better... |
| 14:35.33 | octoid | Install cwm, you get 1) Mouse cursor, 2) X root window. |
| 14:35.37 | octoid | Sorted ;) |
| 14:36.13 | Shadow_7 | all hotkey driven of sorts... cntrl + alt + enter == launch xterm |
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| 14:36.45 | octoid | .cwmrc is a pleasure |
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| 14:38.02 | scoofy | ok, this is what fixed it: mkdir ~/Desktop; xdg-user-dirs-update --set DESKTOP ~/Desktop; logout/log back |
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| 14:38.39 | scoofy | better |
| 14:38.40 | petn-randall | scoofy: You can't really complain if you run programs without knowing what they do, and get angry about their output. I'd also like to remind that this is a voluntary support channel. People here are helping you in their free time, so please take your ranting somewhere else. If you like to improve the situation, we're here, but please try to work constructively with us. |
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| 14:39.01 | scoofy | petn-randall: more precisely, I did delete some stupid empty autogenerated folders |
| 14:39.18 | scoofy | NOT "ran some programs without knowing what they do" |
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| 14:39.30 | octoid | scoofy: Or you could just fix everything with xdg-user-dirs-update && xdg-user-dirs-update --force |
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| 14:39.44 | scoofy | petn-randall, so maybe read what I write |
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| 14:40.55 | petn-randall | scoofy: I did. You ran something and complained about the output: → 15:34 < scoofy > eh. --force does something.... made my dekstop full of idiot icons again... |
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| 14:41.19 | scoofy | petn-randall, "You ran something and complained about the output": more precisely, there was *no* output whatsoever. |
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| 14:41.34 | scoofy | so i rather complained about the *lack* of output, and *lack* of man page. |
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| 14:41.55 | petn-randall | scoofy: Ok, I think we're done here. If you need any help, good luck. |
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| 14:42.35 | scoofy | i figured it out. |
| 14:43.02 | scoofy | anyways if you don't want to help, why are you even here? |
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| 14:43.09 | mtn | heh |
| 14:43.29 | scoofy | so thanks for the tip octoid |
| 14:43.37 | scoofy | that worked |
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| 14:48.13 | octoid | Today, I am mostly plucking pheasants! |
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| 14:52.37 | icarious | I am facing graphics corruption while trying to install Jessie in UEFI mode. |
| 14:52.48 | icarious | any solutions? or where do I report it? |
| 14:53.01 | petn-randall | icarious: Does that mean you don't see those corruptions in legacy mode? |
| 14:53.11 | icarious | petn-randall: right. |
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| 14:53.28 | petn-randall | icarious: What kind of corruptions? Can you give details on your machine? |
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| 14:53.43 | icarious | petn-randall: HP ProBook 4540S |
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| 14:54.19 | icarious | petn-randall: I can boot another distro into UEFI and give you necessary specs if you want? |
| 14:54.21 | icarious | can pastebin the data |
| 14:54.41 | petn-randall | icarious: You might want to ask on #debian-next on irc.oftc.net, where all the jessie users hang out. Somebody with the same problem might pitch in. I'm also in that channel. |
| 14:54.55 | icarious | oftc. ok let me connect |
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| 15:19.03 | darxmurf | see you |
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| 15:25.44 | alipoor90 | Do official debian images contain proprietary firmwares? |
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| 15:26.22 | petn-randall | alipoor90: no. |
| 15:26.24 | g00se | "dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of teamviewer" but aptitude refuses to purge it |
| 15:26.38 | petn-randall | !tell g00se -about bat |
| 15:26.38 | alipoor90 | Thanks |
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| 15:27.56 | octoid | liquorix.net back up :) |
| 15:28.07 | g00se | Thanks. I'm not at the box now so can't say more unfortunately |
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| 15:28.29 | Negron | d6 Who like this game , Dexterity Ball 3D ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ELS9t3jd8k |
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| 15:29.10 | petn-randall | g00se: Ok, then give us a ping when you can actually debug the machine. |
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| 15:31.12 | Lis | hello everyone. i have a question about mdadm raid1. I had a driver failure and did a sgdisk --backup... followed by sgdisk -G /dev/sdb but if I run blkid it shows the same uuids for sda[1234] and adb[1234] is this normal? |
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| 15:32.32 | g00se | I do luksOpen but can't mount (ext2) /dev/mapper/x without errors such as 'superblock missing' etc. When i dd if=/dev/mapper/x | xxd | less, i see the same byte sequence over and over again. Should i take it that something's gone horribly wrong? The crypto-luks partition is on a usb stick. |
| 15:32.38 | teclo- | Hi, what's again the Unix command to repeat the same command every x seconds ? |
| 15:33.06 | petn-randall | teclo-: watch |
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| 15:33.42 | petn-randall | Lis: Did 'sgdisk -G /dev/sdb' throw any errors? |
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| 15:33.54 | Lis | petn-randall, no |
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| 15:35.32 | Lis | petn-randall, i just want to make shure the system boots after i issued a reboot. the dair is up and running. i installed grub and everything |
| 15:35.40 | Lis | raid |
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| 15:41.52 | petn-randall | Lis: I think systems that have several duplicate UUIDs will run into trouble. Better fix this. If the partitions on /dev/sdb are in use by the system, the kernel won't re-read the GPT. Does sgdisk -i or -p show you different UUIDs? |
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| 15:42.58 | Orphis | I'm trying to create a debian package for some software but there seems to be some issue with the postinst script. Any idea how I can troubleshoot it? |
| 15:43.22 | Lis | petn-randall, indeed sgdisk shows different identifiers |
| 15:43.59 | Lis | petn-randall, maybe i got the definitions wrong. it tells uuid in blkid but guid in sgdisk |
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| 15:44.23 | Lis | petn-randall, i also read some posts on the internet, where people have the same output by blkid |
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| 15:45.51 | Lis | petn-randall, yea. i issue a reboot. how everything works |
| 15:45.56 | Lis | hope |
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| 15:47.25 | Lis | hm sgdisk -i doesnt show anything?!? |
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| 15:48.01 | teclo- | petn-randall: indeed, thank you |
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| 16:01.00 | Lis | is it possible to test the grub installation? |
| 16:01.09 | Lis | like checking if the system will boot |
| 16:01.19 | petn-randall | Lis: Other than trying it? No. |
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| 16:01.35 | petn-randall | Lis: You can run 'update-grub' to catch some errors, though. |
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| 16:02.32 | Lis | petn-randall, a ok, i did that already. it reported no errors. i also did some checks with uuids from blkid and they really are the same for raid arrays with the same partition |
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| 16:02.53 | Lis | petn-randall, only the guids are different |
| 16:02.57 | Shadow_7 | lol... make-kpkg clean frees up 9GB of drive space |
| 16:03.07 | petn-randall | !lol |
| 16:03.07 | dpkg | If you want to laugh, use heh or hah or bwahahaha. lol doesn't sound like laughter at all and makes you look like an AOL user. |
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| 16:05.54 | Shadow_7 | I wonder if I get my other 750MB of cruft back if I apt-get remove kernel-package |
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| 16:08.44 | cobra-the-joker | Hey guys ... when will debian 8 release ? |
| 16:08.53 | paultag | when it's ready |
| 16:09.00 | paultag | unlike other distros we don't do timed releases |
| 16:09.01 | critr | sighs |
| 16:09.10 | paultag | we release when we hit no rc bugs that are unignored on stable |
| 16:09.18 | paultag | you can guess using the bug squash rate |
| 16:09.23 | paultag | but we don't have a time I can give you/. |
| 16:09.42 | cobra-the-joker | paultag: awesome |
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| 16:09.47 | paultag | it is awesome! |
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| 16:10.51 | xreal | Anyone ever worked with GPT? Do I need to have a seperate boot partition when using it with GRUB(2) ? |
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| 16:12.01 | jhutchins | xreal No. |
| 16:12.18 | xreal | jhutchins: first or second question? :D |
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| 16:12.38 | jhutchins | xreal: You might need an efi partition if you're working with efi, but gpt is just a different table format. |
| 16:13.06 | xreal | jhutchins: actually, I never worked with GPT, but a friend told me, it's "better"? : |
| 16:13.29 | jhutchins | xreal: It's different. It allows larger partitions. |
| 16:13.33 | Shadow_7 | gpt is basically required for disks > 2TB |
| 16:13.34 | srg | Hi guys. I'm trying to connect to a WPA2 Enterprise (PEAP) Wifi network. I have normal WPA2 working just fine, I'm just not familiar with connecting to an enterprise network |
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| 16:14.08 | xreal | jhutchins & Shadow_7: So for smaller partitions, I shouldn't use GPT ? |
| 16:14.16 | xreal | jhutchins & Shadow_7: Disks, sorry. |
| 16:14.36 | Shadow_7 | the efi secure stuff expects gpt afaik too |
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| 16:14.48 | xreal | Shadow_7: How can I find out about EFI ? |
| 16:14.57 | xreal | Shadow_7: It's a normal Gigabyte mainboard :) |
| 16:15.04 | Shadow_7 | xreal: idk... i always disable it since I never boot windows |
| 16:15.34 | xreal | Shadow_7: I thought it has anything to do with "U"EFI bios? |
| 16:16.07 | Shadow_7 | afaik there's some smaller fat partition at the start that it gets keys and boot stuffs from |
| 16:16.28 | Shadow_7 | but I've never actually bothered to use it or try to use it |
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| 16:18.07 | boz | does systemd make a distro more difficult to fork, vs sysvinit? |
| 16:18.19 | paultag | no, easier in fact |
| 16:18.27 | paultag | since you'll have fewer patches against core software like GNOME |
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| 16:18.50 | paultag | which means fewer people need to update patches removing systemd support from the archive |
| 16:18.58 | paultag | which means more time spent doing something the helps users |
| 16:19.06 | paultag | and lest time playing with yourself, so to speak |
| 16:19.10 | jelly | how hard a distro is to fork probably depends on their infrastructure and how easy is to make a distro state snapshot |
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| 16:19.22 | paultag | infra is solvable. |
| 16:19.30 | paultag | personalities aren't |
| 16:20.16 | jelly | the latter answers the "why" not "how" |
| 16:20.31 | paultag | sure, and the question was about systemd, so I assumed you were off track anyway |
| 16:20.46 | paultag | not about the baseline fork effort, but if systemd changes that level |
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| 16:21.29 | Lis | petn-randall, ok. with fingercrossing it worked. system booted |
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| 16:22.25 | jelly | I'd say the difference is probably negligible |
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| 16:22.57 | paultag | in your experience as a GNOME maintainer? |
| 16:23.16 | paultag | anyway, whatever. I don't want to deal with this crap again |
| 16:23.25 | jelly | nods |
| 16:24.25 | blackbsd | hello, does anyone have any experience with trying to set up a static ip route? I have an openswan server that is creating an ipsec tunnel to a remote network. my openswan server is able to ping a client behind the right side vpn and the right side client can ping the openswan server. |
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| 16:25.03 | blackbsd | the problem i am having is that i have a vm behind the openswan server and this client is not able to ping the client or the vpn device on the right side |
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| 16:26.30 | blackbsd | I have tried to create a custom route on the left-side client and set it to route requests the right-side subnet through the left-side vpn server, which is open swan |
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| 16:26.58 | blackbsd | on the openswan server, i have also enabled ip4_routing |
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| 16:27.30 | blackbsd | using tcpdump, i dont see any ping packets from left-client going to left-vpnserver |
| 16:27.55 | blackbsd | which makes me thing the custom static route is working |
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| 16:35.41 | ChrisH | blackbsd: I did not understand your setup but. a) your openswan server must have forward enabled (I allways forget that with my openvpn server) b) your left-side client might have the default gw set to openswan-server. |
| 16:36.22 | blackbsd | ChrisH, the left-side client has to set the default gateway to openswan server? i can just create a custom route? |
| 16:36.42 | blackbsd | I cant just create a custom route? |
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| 16:37.46 | ChrisH | blackbsd: you can create a custom host route via openswan |
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| 16:38.05 | xreal | What's the current DHCP-client of Wheezy? |
| 16:38.25 | xreal | is it isc-dhcp-client? |
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| 16:39.18 | blackbsd | ChrisH, i think my issue is that left-client packets are not making it to left-side vpn devide, which is openswan |
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| 16:39.53 | blackbsd | Openswan can ping right-side vpn device and right-side client |
| 16:40.10 | ChrisH | blackbsd: check my a) |
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| 16:42.49 | blackbsd | ChrisH: I modified /etc/sysctl.conf and set net.ipv4.ip_forward =1 as well as echo 1 > /proc/sys/net/ipv4/ip_forward on openswan server |
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| 16:43.20 | blackbsd | Your b) point though, i dont know if i have working properly |
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| 16:44.11 | ChrisH | blackbsd: then tcpdump on the ethernet interface to verify the ping is coming in. If yes, continue on all interfaces to see the ping coming in and getting out again (dunno how openswan names its interface) |
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| 16:47.07 | ChrisH | blackbsd: and draw a picture with all systems, Interfaces, IPs incl. Netmasks |
| 16:47.09 | blackbsd | ChrisH: when i run tcpdump on the eth0 device on left-side openswan server and then run a a ping from left-client to right-client, the openswan server does not see the packets coming from left-client |
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| 16:47.58 | ChrisH | blackbsd: given that, the IP routing is not correct on left-client; create a default route for testing. |
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| 16:48.32 | blackbsd | ChrisH: let me try setting a default route, as you mentioned. |
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| 16:48.44 | scoofy | ok, next horror: i accidentally deleted the 'log out' button in LXDE. i replaced it, but since, I get "Logout Error": "Failed to receive a reply from the session manager" |
| 16:48.50 | scoofy | any idea? |
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| 16:49.31 | scoofy | hm, maybe i removed xfce. but why do i get that error |
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| 16:50.07 | dejour | I am new to Debian. Is there a Debian equivalent to Redhat's kickstart install system? |
| 16:50.09 | scoofy | The name org.xfce.SessionManager was not provided by any .service files |
| 16:50.22 | scoofy | I removed XFCE, WTF i get this error |
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| 16:51.39 | scoofy | i reinstalled XFCE, still that |
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| 16:53.56 | petn-randall | !tell dejour -about crosspost |
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| 16:54.56 | scoofy | any idea? |
| 16:55.26 | scoofy | why is it that it's the second time i accidentally f***d up the system without even logging in as root? |
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| 16:55.32 | scoofy | in the past 5 hours |
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| 16:56.15 | scoofy | that should not be possible... |
| 16:56.51 | scoofy | shall I say good-bye to the log out button? |
| 16:57.04 | critr | blackbsd: not sure of this is what you want, but when i got a static ip address from my isp, i had to open my router config and manually tell it the static address. |
| 16:57.16 | dejour | crosspost, okay. thanks |
| 16:57.21 | blackbsd | ChrisH: do you think I might have to run any type of "iptables -t nat -A POSTROUTING ...." on the openswan server? |
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| 16:58.01 | ChrisH | blackbsd: iptables -L -n does show anything? |
| 16:59.07 | blackbsd | All of these vm's are created in the Azure Cloud service into 2 different virtual networks, all vm's are running linux |
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| 16:59.42 | blackbsd | ChrisH, iptables -L -n -v does not show anything |
| 16:59.55 | blackbsd | on openswan server |
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| 17:03.17 | xreal | How much beta/rc is Jessie up to now? |
| 17:03.28 | xreal | I need to setup a new server in the next days :( |
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| 17:05.09 | jelly | xreal: you won't have security support until it's released, might take a couple months |
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| 17:05.17 | critr | xreal: not just set it up as wheezy and then upgrade it to jessie when it becomes stable? |
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| 17:05.33 | xreal | critr: I had problems with this from squeeze to wheezy in the past. |
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| 17:05.44 | xreal | jelly: When do you think will be release time? Eastern or later? |
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| 17:05.57 | jelly | xreal: that's impossible to say, really |
| 17:06.10 | xreal | jelly: Will Jessie introduce LTS? |
| 17:06.38 | jhutchins | xreal: There's support for a year from the next release. |
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| 17:06.47 | xreal | 1 year only? |
| 17:06.58 | xreal | Doesn't Ubuntu have 5 years? |
| 17:07.12 | paultag | on LTS, and that's only on the very core of the distro |
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| 17:07.46 | xreal | I see :( |
| 17:07.55 | jelly | xreal: squeeze has a sort of LTS support. How well it's received and whether it gets funded will probably be a factor in whether wheezy or jessie get any similar extension |
| 17:08.00 | jelly | !squeeze-lts |
| 17:08.01 | dpkg | Volunteer-provided security support for Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" will continue until 2016-02-06 for a limited set of packages for i386 and amd64. An appropriate line for your sources.list is «deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ squeeze-lts main». See also the «check-support-status» command from the debian-security-support package and https://wiki.debian.org/LTS for more information. #debian-lts on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 17:11.03 | petn-randall | xreal: wheezy will get at least 1 year more support after the release of jessie. Not 1 year in total. |
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| 17:29.15 | critr | xreal: if you don't mind using an ubuntu-based distro, the mint head-developer says mint 17 (current) and the next 3 releases will all be based on the same version of ubuntu lts. |
| 17:29.39 | xreal | critr: I know... but I like Debian :) |
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| 17:29.48 | critr | heh |
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| 17:30.12 | xreal | critr: The Debian community has changed. Less and lesser "RTFM" on IRC. |
| 17:30.27 | xreal | critr: I started 8 years ago and every answer was: "Google it" or "RTFM". |
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| 17:32.50 | critr | xreal: possible the whole linux community is changing that way, with the exception of arch, which is taking up all the slack :P |
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| 17:34.29 | Tenkawa | hi all |
| 17:34.54 | alphis | hey guys i cant' get apt-get update to work anymore: W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/contrib/source/Sources 404 Not Found [IP: 64.50.233.100 80] |
| 17:34.59 | alphis | anyone else experiencing this issue? |
| 17:35.35 | Tenkawa | sounds like one of the mirrors is out of sync |
| 17:35.51 | Tenkawa | isnt there a mirror status page? |
| 17:36.02 | Tenkawa | (been too long to remember) |
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| 17:37.44 | jhutchins | !status |
| 17:37.46 | dpkg | Since Wed Jan 14 12:05:02 2015, there have been 0 modifications, 12 questions, 5 dunnos, 0 morons and 8 commands. I have been awake for 5h 32m 42s this session, and currently reference 40070 factoids. I'm using about 30320 kB of memory. With 0 active forks. Process time user/system 36.5/2.69 child 0/0 |
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| 17:37.51 | jhutchins | !mirror status |
| 17:37.54 | dpkg | Debian mirrors have timestamp files we use to determine how recently they have been updated. Here are some statistics the mirror maintainers provide: http://mirror.debian.org/status.html and http://ftp.de.debian.org/dmc/today/ Ask me about <mirrors>. #debian-mirrors on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 17:38.15 | alphis | hmmm |
| 17:38.24 | alphis | only one box has this problem tho |
| 17:38.48 | alphis | i have other debian systes running wheezy and they can update. ive copied sources.list from the working one just in case and still the problem persists |
| 17:39.10 | Tenkawa | well remember ftp.us.,debian.org is a round robin |
| 17:39.27 | Tenkawa | so you might not be hitting the same dns resolution for every one |
| 17:39.36 | alphis | i see |
| 17:39.47 | alphis | but u'd think after trying randomly i'd have gotten past the bad one |
| 17:39.55 | alphis | i've tried for 3 days now |
| 17:40.00 | Tenkawa | alphis: agreed |
| 17:40.01 | Tenkawa | hmm |
| 17:40.10 | jhutchins | I don't see a plain Sources file there, just Sources.gz and Sources.bz2 |
| 17:40.51 | alphis | wait the error is: http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/dists/wheezy/contrib/source/Sources |
| 17:40.54 | alphis | shouldn't it either http or ftp |
| 17:41.07 | Tenkawa | no thats fiine |
| 17:41.16 | alphis | rly? hmm ok |
| 17:41.25 | Tenkawa | they use both ftp and http generally |
| 17:41.34 | alphis | right but in the same url. |
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| 17:41.47 | jhutchins | alphis: No, http protocol, ftp is disabled on most mirrors but remains part of the name. |
| 17:41.48 | Tenkawa | what jhutchins said is more concerning |
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| 17:42.11 | jhutchins | Most likely just a glitch in the latest update. |
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| 17:42.23 | Tenkawa | yep |
| 17:42.26 | Tenkawa | I agree |
| 17:42.33 | alphis | any way i can flush or otherwise fix this |
| 17:42.46 | jhutchins | Any idea what they use to run the updates? Jenkins? |
| 17:42.58 | jhutchins | alphis: You can try other mirrors or just wait it out. |
| 17:43.09 | Tenkawa | jhutchins: I use to know however forgot a log time ago |
| 17:43.32 | Tenkawa | alphis: try one of the non ftp.* entries to test |
| 17:43.41 | Tenkawa | jhutchins: s/log/long |
| 17:43.43 | Tenkawa | haaha |
| 17:43.51 | critr | alphis: is the box in question using a proxy of some kind? |
| 17:43.59 | Tenkawa | still trying to get use to this kb |
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| 17:44.33 | Tenkawa | critr: sounds like the mirror itself "is" missing an index file |
| 17:44.46 | Tenkawa | I've seen it happen beforetoo |
| 17:45.03 | Tenkawa | thats why testing another is good here.. |
| 17:45.05 | alphis | critr: no proxy |
| 17:45.20 | critr | Tenkawa: yah, i was just wondering if a proxy was making it hit the same bad server a lot. |
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| 17:47.45 | alphis | the weird thing is i copied my working box's sources.list to the one that isn't working |
| 17:47.48 | alphis | how else can i change mirrors |
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| 17:48.18 | Tenkawa | critr: very good point |
| 17:48.48 | jhutchins | !mirrors |
| 17:48.49 | dpkg | Debian mirror sites are listed at http://www.debian.org/mirror/list and ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt and http://deb.li/map ; ask me about <apt-spy>, <netselect-apt>, <http.debian.net>, <debian mirror checker>. To make a mirror, see http://www.debian.org/mirrors/ ; see also <debmirror>, <apt-mirror>, <ftpsync>, <mirror size>. #debian-mirrors on irc.oftc.net. |
| 17:48.56 | critr | just pick a specific mirror from a list ans write it manually into your sources.list. |
| 17:48.59 | Tenkawa | alphis: manually change it from ftp.us.debian.org on the bad box to a host that is ib the list |
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| 17:49.09 | critr | alphis: ^^ |
| 17:49.13 | Tenkawa | what critr said heehee |
| 17:49.16 | Tenkawa | haaahaaahaa |
| 17:49.21 | jhutchins | Tenkawa: Also at both the previous links from dpkg. Just substitute one of the servers from thiose lists for the one giving you errors. |
| 17:49.47 | Tenkawa | jhutchins: not me.. alphis |
| 17:50.19 | Tenkawa | i'm just tuning up my cygwin install |
| 17:51.11 | alphis | yeah jut changed it |
| 17:51.28 | alphis | works now =] |
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| 17:51.42 | critr | \o/ |
| 17:51.58 | Tenkawa | yay!!! |
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| 17:53.42 | xreal | Seems like some Debian servers have trouble today? |
| 17:54.07 | Tenkawa | Anyone remember how to change irssi mouse scroll behaviour offhand? |
| 17:54.18 | Tenkawa | otherwise I'll go look it up |
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| 17:56.27 | Tenkawa | meh.. i'll figure it out later.. |
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| 17:57.32 | Tenkawa | xreal: hadnt heard anything although wouldnt be surprised depending if the weather is playing havoc on the infrastructre |
| 17:57.44 | Tenkawa | it feels so blah here |
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| 17:58.13 | xreal | Tenkawa: perhaps some sharks eating lines in the ocean? |
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| 17:58.38 | Tenkawa | snow/ice all over and finaklly hit 20 F. |
| 17:58.41 | Tenkawa | er finally |
| 17:58.54 | Tenkawa | xreal: winter problems |
| 17:59.00 | xreal | Tenkawa: Winter kills. |
| 17:59.34 | Tenkawa | definitely annoying me |
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| 17:59.36 | Tenkawa | heheheh |
| 17:59.49 | Tenkawa | I'm ready for spring |
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| 18:00.13 | xreal | Whoop /me catching fire |
| 18:00.34 | xreal | Tenkawa: In Germany, we've got massive weather problems. It's way too warm here and too much rain over paradise :( |
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| 18:00.44 | Tenkawa | ahh |
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| 18:01.15 | Tenkawa | Yeah last time I was over there was in one of the nicer weather times of year |
| 18:01.19 | xreal | I was cold for about 1 week. The farmers are in fear of frost. |
| 18:01.29 | Tenkawa | ouh |
| 18:01.29 | xreal | it* not "i" :) |
| 18:01.31 | Tenkawa | er ouch |
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| 18:02.08 | xreal | We had 13 °C some days ago - 55.4 °F. |
| 18:03.05 | Tenkawa | well hopefully this will all balance out..... |
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| 18:14.09 | yourbeau | is debian's kernel linux-libre ? |
| 18:14.14 | paultag | no |
| 18:14.19 | yourbeau | if not then how can it be fully free ? |
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| 18:14.26 | paultag | because we stripped nonfree bits |
| 18:14.28 | paultag | linux-libre blacklists nonfree modules |
| 18:14.30 | yourbeau | Debian's kernel from what i heard is fully free ? |
| 18:14.34 | paultag | yes |
| 18:14.46 | paultag | we stripped all blobs |
| 18:14.58 | yourbeau | so wifis would not work unless you install the firmware ? |
| 18:14.58 | paultag | linux-libre did the same, but also blacklists any non-known free modules |
| 18:15.01 | paultag | no |
| 18:15.03 | paultag | free wifi works |
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| 18:15.10 | paultag | like athros |
| 18:15.17 | yourbeau | paultag, hehe I am talking about non-free wifi |
| 18:15.22 | paultag | nonfree needs to be installed from the unofficial non-free repos |
| 18:15.28 | yourbeau | I know I am user of Trisquel as of now |
| 18:15.38 | yourbeau | I want to switch when Debian 8 is out |
| 18:15.45 | yourbeau | hence getting more information |
| 18:15.49 | paultag | cool, yeah, Debian respects your freedom |
| 18:15.54 | yourbeau | I would be using Debian Main only |
| 18:15.58 | paultag | right |
| 18:15.58 | paultag | which is what I do |
| 18:16.04 | yourbeau | so by default Debian is fully free ? |
| 18:16.08 | paultag | totally free, totally fine. |
| 18:16.08 | paultag | yes |
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| 18:16.17 | yourbeau | unless I add Contrib and non-free ? |
| 18:16.26 | paultag | the FSF doesn't want to endorse due to us hosting unofficial sections of the archive, like contrib and nonfree |
| 18:16.30 | paultag | that's right, but those are not Debian |
| 18:16.38 | paultag | they're unofficial parts of the distro that are hosted on our servers |
| 18:16.48 | critr | free as a bird unless you manually shoot it down |
| 18:17.05 | yourbeau | paultag, but fsf says you are also developing non-free software ; hosting is not a serious issue though |
| 18:17.14 | paultag | they do not say that we develop nonfree |
| 18:17.14 | yourbeau | are you developing non-free software ? |
| 18:17.20 | paultag | please show me where |
| 18:17.29 | yourbeau | ok wait I confirm from them |
| 18:17.32 | paultag | all of our infra is 100% free. |
| 18:17.40 | paultag | yourbeau: I lived in Boston and spent lots of time in the FSF offices |
| 18:17.45 | paultag | I've had this talk with the FSF many times |
| 18:18.02 | paultag | I stuffed mailers for them |
| 18:18.05 | paultag | trust me :) |
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| 18:18.37 | yourbeau | haha |
| 18:18.38 | yourbeau | OK |
| 18:18.47 | yourbeau | paultag, did you met RMS ever ? |
| 18:18.50 | paultag | yes |
| 18:18.51 | yourbeau | Linus hates FSF now |
| 18:18.53 | yourbeau | wow |
| 18:18.54 | paultag | a bunch of times. Why?? |
| 18:19.04 | yourbeau | I want to meet him once to thanks him |
| 18:19.13 | paultag | yeah, he's neato |
| 18:19.16 | paultag | come for LibrePlanet |
| 18:19.31 | yourbeau | paulr, <Calinou> Debian supports proprietary software; supports as in, provides bug reports for it, support, … |
| 18:19.33 | Tenkawa | wow I just realized what year this is for me using linux |
| 18:19.36 | Tenkawa | yowza |
| 18:19.38 | Tenkawa | heheheh |
| 18:19.40 | yourbeau | paulr, just now in #Fsf |
| 18:19.47 | yourbeau | paultag, ^ |
| 18:19.48 | yourbeau | paulr, sorry |
| 18:20.02 | paultag | yourbeau: Yeah, Calinou is a troll, also, he's misunderstanding the distinction between Debian infra and Debian the distro |
| 18:20.11 | yourbeau | ok |
| 18:20.13 | paultag | which is basically the misunderstanding that prevents the FSF from endorsing us |
| 18:20.14 | yourbeau | hehe |
| 18:20.32 | paultag | because nonfree is hosted on our servers, but *not* a part of the distro, that's why |
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| 18:20.35 | yourbeau | paultag, can I paste your comment in #Fsf with your permission please ? |
| 18:20.38 | paultag | no |
| 18:20.41 | yourbeau | Ok |
| 18:20.43 | paultag | I don't want to engage with |
| 18:20.45 | yourbeau | ok |
| 18:20.47 | paultag | Calinou* |
| 18:20.53 | paultag | He's a dick every time we talk |
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| 18:20.58 | yourbeau | lol |
| 18:20.59 | yourbeau | ok |
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| 18:21.20 | paultag | ok, food time |
| 18:21.39 | paultag | 18:21 < yourbeau> Calinou, they don't like you |
| 18:21.41 | paultag | c'mon man |
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| 18:22.08 | yourbeau | :) |
| 18:22.11 | yourbeau | sorry |
| 18:22.14 | paultag | the fuck man |
| 18:22.26 | CutMeOwnThroat | pardon? |
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| 18:22.40 | yourbeau | ? |
| 18:22.57 | trysten | hello #debian! how can i start the installation process while my system is running? should i use debootstrap or can i use the normal install scripts? |
| 18:24.41 | Tenkawa | thinks back to the mid 90's |
| 18:24.51 | Tenkawa | heheheeh |
| 18:24.53 | testdeb | * |
| 18:25.15 | Tenkawa | feels all so familiar agai |
| 18:25.16 | Tenkawa | n |
| 18:25.58 | testdeb | hi if i install jessy on op of wheezy, can i still run wheezy from grub? does it happen that my wheezy cannot be used anymore? |
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| 18:26.23 | rgr | on top of? Of course not. |
| 18:26.43 | rgr | you can howver install jessy on other partitions and update grub. |
| 18:26.43 | centrx | testdeb, You could install them on separate partitions, but upgrade replaces the old version |
| 18:27.07 | testdeb | centrx, rgr, thanks |
| 18:27.12 | rgr | just do a full dd backup to an external drive and do a dist-upgrade. |
| 18:27.18 | rgr | "worked for me". |
| 18:27.34 | testdeb | but i see that the grub also shows old kernel versions, why is it so? |
| 18:27.49 | testdeb | or im wrong |
| 18:27.49 | Tenkawa | old kernel.. not old userland |
| 18:28.19 | Tenkawa | I commonly have 4-6 kernels on my dev box |
| 18:28.29 | Tenkawa | testing diff scenarios |
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| 18:28.58 | testdeb | what happens if i boot from the old kernel? will it crash eventually, ive not tested it sorry... |
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| 18:29.21 | critr | testdeb: you can boot the same installation using different kernels, but installing jessie over wheezy replaces the whole installation. |
| 18:29.45 | temhaa | Hi |
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| 18:29.53 | temhaa | I ask about logrotate |
| 18:30.08 | temhaa | my logrotate conf is it true? |
| 18:30.10 | temhaa | http://paste.debian.net/140662/ |
| 18:30.43 | temhaa | I want compress logs and move compressed log to another directory |
| 18:30.56 | testdeb | critr, that could mean that there could/may be non-backward compatible packages and the system can/may crash... is it so? |
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| 18:31.20 | critr | testdeb: it shouldn't hurt anything to boot with any listed kernel, though they may work a little different. |
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| 18:31.38 | critr | +ly |
| 18:32.03 | testdeb | critr, thats cool, thank you |
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| 18:36.47 | critr | testdeb: one caveat. if you're using whole disk encryption, and install the 3.16 kernel, it won't accept your passphrase. trust me, i know this. :P |
| 18:36.55 | rgr | testdeb: you dont install OVER end of story. |
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| 18:37.12 | rgr | do a dist-upgrade or install to new partitions or format during install. |
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| 18:37.36 | testdeb | critr, luckily i didn't do the encryption ... |
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| 18:38.46 | testdeb | i have seen a kernel which names itself PREEMPT and saw that the performance is way better in comparison with compile times, it is only a kernel patch, is there also support from debian for this patch? i havenot seen an RT in the kernel name, but only a PREEMPT, should i be changing the whole repo list for this patch that wheezy have a lot of issues? |
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| 18:39.15 | testdeb | *if i update the kernel.. |
| 18:40.17 | rgr | with compile times? Are you sure you know what you're talking about? |
| 18:40.19 | testdeb | *the question was is it only a kernel patch, would the source repos have issues with package updates if i update this patch? |
| 18:40.59 | rgr | I would suggest you take a step back before you hose your system. If you are not aware that installing over will create problems then you shouldnt even considering patching stock kernels. |
| 18:41.09 | Slashman_ | hello, I have an issue with wheezy-backports: when I try to install "libvirt-bin", it fails because "consolekit : Breaks: udev (< 204-1) but 175-7.2 is installed." and udev version > 204-1 is not available, any idea how I can solve this? |
| 18:41.26 | testdeb | rgr, i work with some fpga stuffs which takes more than 40 minutes with wheezy, while on another wheezy system with PREEMPT it takes only 27 minutes |
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| 18:41.40 | testdeb | *40 minutes of compile time i mean |
| 18:42.27 | testdeb | i upraded my system to jessie, the compile time is more or less the same |
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| 18:42.59 | jhutchins | testdeb: You should probably research what PREMPT does, and what it's implications are. You then have the option of rebuilding the current Debian kernel with that option enabled. |
| 18:42.59 | temhaa | anybody for logrotate |
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| 18:43.25 | Tenkawa | yikes that wasnt pretty |
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| 18:43.52 | Tenkawa | my computer was a bit unhapp |
| 18:43.53 | Tenkawa | y |
| 18:43.53 | jhutchins | testdeb: Try it. Consider the possible consequences if it does freeze - will you loose significant work time? Is it worth that investment if the system runs fine with that option? |
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| 18:44.44 | Tenkawa | brb |
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| 18:45.12 | Tenkawa | better |
| 18:45.23 | Tenkawa | needed to do more irssi window tweaking |
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| 18:46.12 | sussudio | is there a reason one of you jerks is trying to hack me? |
| 18:46.25 | Tenkawa | huh? |
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| 18:47.41 | Tenkawa | sussudio: in what way? |
| 18:47.42 | sussudio | someone has been portscanning me, port by port, once a minute, for about a week now and just now someone tried to take my nickserv account... |
| 18:47.53 | Tenkawa | ahh |
| 18:48.02 | RoyK | sussudio: someone is always trying that ;) |
| 18:48.12 | RoyK | sussudio: usually bots |
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| 18:48.35 | sussudio | the scanner is 69.64.39.232 which resolves to zikula.at |
| 18:48.42 | Tenkawa | figure out the ip/nick source and report it |
| 18:48.44 | sussudio | which seems to be a gnu project. |
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| 18:48.47 | hspcd | sussudio: It could have been me. Are you in North Korea? I've been working on penetrating them for a couple of weeks now. |
| 18:48.57 | sussudio | i am not. |
| 18:48.58 | RoyK | hspcd: :D |
| 18:49.04 | trysten | hahaha |
| 18:49.10 | Tenkawa | that was just bad |
| 18:49.41 | hspcd | I was hoping to gain control over the nuclear weapons systems and cause an accidental, in-the-tube detonation. |
| 18:49.48 | sussudio | and apparently my isp blocks several incoming ports, even though they said they would stop doing that... |
| 18:50.00 | jelly | sussudio: the !sing sussudio factoid is quite enough, no need for hacking |
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| 18:50.20 | RoyK | sussudio: there'll always be portscanning - just protect your server |
| 18:50.32 | sussudio | kind of defeats the point of using DROP on my side if my ISP uses REJECT on them... |
| 18:50.44 | sussudio | RoyK: on every single port? |
| 18:50.46 | jhutchins | sussudio: You should realize that there are literally thousands of channels on this server alone. |
| 18:50.56 | RoyK | sussudio: depends who or what is scanning |
| 18:50.59 | sussudio | they're at port 6426 now. |
| 18:51.06 | sussudio | 1 port a minute... |
| 18:51.16 | hspcd | sussudio: There is some great documentation on the Debian Wiki for how to harden your boxes. I'd also take a look at what you can get from the SANS 20 Critical Controls. |
| 18:51.27 | RoyK | sussudio: there are systems that can block certain IPs with patterns like that |
| 18:51.30 | testdeb | jhutchins, for sure the compile time improvements are worth, currently i can work on that PC too, so i can compile in 2 PCs simultaneously, but eventually i would like to understand the details and have it in my PC. Someone who was really a expert configured the PC with PREEMPT and it is a server running well for over a year,I'm actually new to debian and kernel related stuffs and so... i'm anyway in learning mode... |
| 18:51.37 | sussudio | i've already blocked the IP for all ports |
| 18:51.51 | RoyK | then why worry? |
| 18:51.57 | sussudio | it's annoying me. |
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| 18:52.08 | Tenkawa | sussudio: many things annoy me |
| 18:52.27 | RoyK | The Internet is Annoying (tm) http://xkcd.com/386/ |
| 18:52.30 | sussudio | my log screen filling up... |
| 18:52.51 | RoyK | then throttle the logs or use ulog |
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| 18:53.29 | hspcd | sussudio: You can probably ignore these types of probes until you notice more sophisticated actions for a source IP. Let's say 1.2.3.4 was port scanning, then it starts to finger print your web server, then it starts to send phishing emails, then you start paying attention.... |
| 18:53.43 | RoyK | never liked the idea of logging iptables/ufw stuff to kernel/dmesg |
| 18:54.05 | sussudio | i'm not running services on it, apart from identd, and only for whitelisted hosts. |
| 18:54.17 | yourbeau | guys how can I install hplip 3.14 in wheezy ? |
| 18:54.23 | RoyK | sussudio: then don't worry |
| 18:54.38 | sussudio | !tell yourbeau about pinning |
| 18:55.00 | sussudio | have fun screwing up your install, possibly, yourbeau. |
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| 18:56.08 | jhutchins | ,v hplip |
| 18:56.09 | judd | Package: hplip on i386 -- squeeze: 3.10.6-2+squeeze2; squeeze-security: 3.10.6-2+squeeze2; wheezy: 3.12.6-3.1+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 3.12.6-3.1+deb7u1; jessie: 3.14.6-1+b2; sid: 3.14.6-1+b2 |
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| 18:56.31 | jelly | yourbeau: no easy way |
| 18:56.43 | jhutchins | yourbeau: Is there something essential that 3.12 doesn't have? |
| 18:56.46 | jelly | how does the older one fail for you? |
| 18:57.03 | yourbeau | jelly, I have HP printer that needs 3.14 |
| 18:57.12 | yourbeau | or 3.13 or newer |
| 18:57.35 | sussudio | really? |
| 18:57.37 | jelly | yourbeau: you could try backporting pyppd and then hplip. /msg dpkg ssb |
| 18:57.39 | RoyK | why would a printer need a particular kernel? ;) |
| 18:57.39 | jhutchins | yourbeau: You could possibly backport it yourself. |
| 18:58.23 | jhutchins | RoyK: Probably just the handler software/driver, not a kernel. Because they changed the API again and the old software can't talk to it, or doesn't recognize it because it's not on the list. |
| 18:58.31 | yourbeau | jelly, http://hplipopensource.com/hplip-web/models/deskjet/deskjet_1010_series.html |
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| 18:58.33 | yourbeau | this printer |
| 18:58.51 | yourbeau | jelly, jhutchins when is Jessie coming out ? I can wait |
| 18:59.12 | RoyK | jhutchins: last I read, CUPS drivers were in userspace |
| 18:59.17 | jelly | yourbeau: hard to say; maybe a couple months, maybe a couple weeks |
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| 18:59.37 | yourbeau | jelly, so no way before FOSDEM ? |
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| 18:59.58 | jelly | has no idea when FOSDEM happens |
| 19:00.17 | YamakasY | when I create my own debs and I need to overwrite a file like /foo/bla.txt how can I make this happen ? my package complains it´s already there |
| 19:00.46 | yourbeau | jelly, 30th Jan 2015 |
| 19:00.48 | Tenkawa | bbl |
| 19:00.55 | yourbeau | it starts |
| 19:00.56 | jelly | yourbeau: no chance |
| 19:01.13 | jhutchins | yourbeau: http://www.openprinting.org/printer/HP/HP-LaserJet_1010 - pxl1010 driver from their site. |
| 19:01.39 | jhutchins | yourbeau: That won't give you the printer status that hplip will, but you can print. |
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| 19:02.03 | yourbeau | jelly, ok |
| 19:02.17 | jelly | jhutchins: but laserjet != deskjet |
| 19:02.20 | yourbeau | jhutchins, i know thanks :) |
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| 19:03.03 | yourbeau | oh ya thats wrong ppd |
| 19:03.03 | yourbeau | lol |
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| 19:03.49 | jhutchins | yourbeau: It's a deskjet, just mislabled on the page. They don't make a 1010 laserjet. |
| 19:04.42 | jhutchins | yourbeau: Another option is to find the mac drivers and see if there's a .ppd there. |
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| 19:05.03 | mlaine | hi |
| 19:05.11 | yourbeau | jhutchins, ok no problem |
| 19:05.26 | mlaine | is there any way to trunk network connections as in bsd |
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| 19:05.47 | yourbeau | jhutchins, I am using trisquel 7 as of now ; just want to switch to debian based or vanilla debian |
| 19:05.48 | RoyK | mlaine: yes |
| 19:05.48 | mlaine | now i have to wait for eth0 at boot even though it's not connected |
| 19:06.24 | RoyK | mlaine: see bonding |
| 19:06.44 | mlaine | RoyK: cheers |
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| 19:10.09 | zammy | hello there I have some question |
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| 19:11.08 | yourbeau | zeeshan, how are you ? |
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| 19:11.56 | zeeshan | i am good :P |
| 19:12.01 | zeeshan | having trouble installing wheezy |
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| 19:12.10 | YamakasY | no-one building their own packages ? |
| 19:12.12 | zeeshan | The ext4 file system creation in partition #1 of SCSI 1 0,0,0 sda failed |
| 19:12.14 | zeeshan | keep getting that. |
| 19:12.30 | zammy | when you just use network manager with right click and connection icon... selecting Edit Connections, and in the IPv4 tab ... well anything you type and edit there in command line how to translate all that stuff in command line |
| 19:12.34 | zammy | ???????????????? |
| 19:12.35 | zeeshan | i tried manually making the partitions using fdisk using the live cd, but when i go to install it, it forces me to make new partitions? |
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| 19:14.20 | zammy | what comes to be edited as you edit the Edit Connections |
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| 19:18.53 | jhutchins | zammy: Are you asking where the information is stored? |
| 19:19.31 | jhutchins | zeeshan: You should be able to choose existing partitions. I don't remember how it's labled, but there's an Advanced button or some such. |
| 19:19.40 | zeeshan | ah |
| 19:19.51 | jhutchins | zeeshan: You can then choose the mount point for existing partitions. |
| 19:19.53 | zammy | jhutchins: actaully ye |
| 19:20.17 | zammy | and so how can edit it with nano |
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| 19:20.47 | jhutchins | zammy: You can editi /etc/network/interfaces - if a device is configured there NetworkManager should leave it alone. |
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| 19:21.00 | jhutchins | zammy: There is also a CLI interface for NM. |
| 19:21.13 | zammy | well I did not know that |
| 19:21.14 | zammy | really |
| 19:21.19 | zammy | how s that |
| 19:22.06 | zammy | uh cool |
| 19:22.08 | zammy | nmcli |
| 19:22.13 | zammy | what a spank ass |
| 19:22.51 | critr | zeeshan: you can use existing partitions in the installer, but if you're not going to reformat them, you need to remember what filesystem is on them. |
| 19:23.42 | zammy | bye and thanks jhutchins |
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| 19:37.56 | jhutchins | critr: Actually, if you reformat them it doesn't matter what filesystem was on them before. |
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| 19:40.21 | critr | jhutchins: yeppers, thus "if you're not going to reformat them" |
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| 19:53.08 | hrenza07 | Hello, hola? |
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| 19:53.25 | legitpillow | Big cats. Big dogs |
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| 19:54.15 | hrenza07 | Central America communities? |
| 19:54.52 | Voyager82 | Hello. I don't know if this is the proper channel to ask. I have problems, I think, with the drivers of my video card, when I watch videos. At first, I thought it was related to Adobe Flash Player, but then I encountered the same problem with HTML 5 videos too. It must be related with the drivers, since everything is ok when I watch it with my Windows partition. Any suggestion? |
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| 19:55.30 | sussudio | #1 rule about problems with flash... turn hardware acceleration off first. |
| 19:55.47 | Voyager82 | sussudio, I did. |
| 19:55.50 | hrenza07 | Update the flash plugin? |
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| 19:56.37 | Voyager82 | sussudio, the problem is not related to Flash anymore. The problem is with videos in general. |
| 19:56.46 | Voyager82 | Especially HD videos. |
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| 19:58.09 | hrenza07 | Do you search the private drivers for your video card? |
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| 19:58.20 | hrenza07 | like, nvidia or another? |
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| 19:59.39 | Voyager82 | I tried to install fglx, but "aptitude" said it was not ok for my video card. I had to rely on an old proprietary driver, or try "radeon". |
| 20:00.05 | Voyager82 | "fglrx". |
| 20:00.17 | hrenza07 | and if you compile the source code? |
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| 20:00.37 | Voyager82 | I didn't try. |
| 20:01.02 | Voyager82 | I should do a better research: try all the options. |
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| 20:03.03 | hummerrr | hi |
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| 20:03.37 | hrenza07 | search the source code, that will allow you set some settings that probably make turn on your video card... |
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| 20:05.02 | Voyager82 | hrenza07, I should become a developer. |
| 20:05.31 | Voyager82 | :) |
| 20:05.37 | hummerrr | I want to calculate the whole time of an user, but i cant find the fitting reg exp for (xx.xx), does someone have an idea? |
| 20:06.14 | hrenza07 | isn't necesary to be a developer, just read about the model of your video card, and resolutions available for that... |
| 20:07.09 | hrenza07 | The source code always become commented by developer or designer... |
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| 20:09.19 | hrenza07 | just research Voyager82 ;) you can do it... |
| 20:09.57 | emirozer | Hi debian ppl :) Hope you are having a nice time ! I have a small favor to ask... I am developing a linux hardening automation project. If you find a few free minutes can you actually take a quick look and give some advice on what i can do more... it would be amazing. https://github.com/emirozer/nixarmor |
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| 20:13.38 | hrenza07 | jmmm... emirozer... I like to take the control of my system updates... |
| 20:14.05 | emirozer | hrenza07: hmm so doing sys updates is not that of a good idea ? |
| 20:14.06 | hrenza07 | but, for some people like noobs, that help. |
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| 20:15.35 | hrenza07 | yes, is a good idea, but some software not need an update, like for sysadmins or another... |
| 20:15.43 | hrenza07 | or full update |
| 20:16.01 | emirozer | yeah i see your point |
| 20:16.04 | emirozer | its quite valid |
| 20:16.08 | emirozer | thank you for the input! |
| 20:16.31 | centrx | emirozer, On a production system running apps, the admins like to know when and what is being applied and make sure everything works properly |
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| 20:16.33 | hrenza07 | :) |
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| 20:16.51 | hrenza07 | +1 centrx |
| 20:17.06 | emirozer | i definitely agree... |
| 20:17.11 | emirozer | but i felt like |
| 20:17.12 | hummerrr | can someone help me with a little shell script that shows the time of an user spent on the server? |
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| 20:17.24 | emirozer | doing system upgrades in general does not create extra layers of vulnerability |
| 20:17.53 | hrenza07 | not vulnerability, but the perfomance? |
| 20:18.01 | emirozer | yes that is another question |
| 20:18.07 | Blacklite | usually does not change performance |
| 20:18.22 | Blacklite | and if it does, it should usually be better |
| 20:18.32 | hrenza07 | if not? |
| 20:18.49 | hrenza07 | if I want only 2 o 3 updates? |
| 20:19.10 | hrenza07 | or security updates only? |
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| 20:19.57 | hrenza07 | the script is ok for noobs, that not know about the system updating or upgrading... |
| 20:20.11 | Blacklite | hard to say without knowing what they are, but generally i haven't had performance issues with upgrading linux packages in the past |
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| 20:20.37 | emirozer | one issue is that i lack debian experience |
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| 20:20.39 | centrx | Automatic updates is good for desktop users that don't like to do system administration |
| 20:20.48 | emirozer | i am not sure what is the best way to do kernel tuning in debian |
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| 20:23.04 | hrenza07 | the best way to do kernel tunning is compiling the kernel |
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| 20:23.20 | emirozer | haha good answer :) |
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| 20:26.03 | hrenza07 | For me, finally... the script is not for sysadmins |
| 20:26.15 | emirozer | yeah thats for sure |
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| 20:27.08 | jhutchins | emirozer: WHy would kernel tuning be any different in Debian than it is with any other Linux distro? |
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| 20:28.03 | emirozer | i am used to using sysctl in other distros.. is there a clean sysfs equivalent to sysctl? |
| 20:28.09 | emirozer | excuse my ignorance please... |
| 20:28.10 | jhutchins | hrenza07: There are systems meant to monitor various forms of use for billable computer time. |
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| 20:28.44 | jhutchins | hrenza07: lastlog tracks signon-signoff. |
| 20:29.07 | hrenza07 | like a ciber coffee control? |
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| 20:31.52 | hrenza07 | check NCC (New Cyber Control) |
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| 20:43.32 | NoImNotNineVolt | okay, i have the libtool package installed, but i still have no libtool? |
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| 20:44.19 | hrenza07 | maybe you need libtool-dev package |
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| 20:44.56 | NoImNotNineVolt | E: Unable to locate package libtool-dev |
| 20:45.01 | NoImNotNineVolt | (debian8b2) |
| 20:45.15 | hrenza07 | some like libtool dev... haha |
| 20:45.36 | hrenza07 | filter libtool and search like libtool dev |
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| 20:45.52 | NoImNotNineVolt | really i'm just trying to build something and autogen.sh is complaining that it can't find libtool. and it can't. libtool package is installed, but i have no libtool binary. |
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| 20:46.09 | NoImNotNineVolt | ah, libtool-bin? |
| 20:46.26 | NoImNotNineVolt | yea, that did the trick. thanks. |
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| 20:46.36 | hrenza07 | ok, regards |
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| 20:48.29 | NoImNotNineVolt | you wouldn't happen to be really good with systemd, would you? :P |
| 20:48.46 | NoImNotNineVolt | and by really good i mean better than someone who's spent 30 minutes playing with it :P |
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| 20:49.45 | NoImNotNineVolt | i'm writing a service definition file, and my service is very picky about the way it is shut down. that is, i need to run a script before the process is killed. and ExecStop doesn't seem to be doing that. |
| 20:50.03 | NoImNotNineVolt | is there a way to debug what's happening there? |
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| 20:51.27 | CutMeOwnThroat | +- |
| 20:51.50 | hrenza07 | playing with mysql and php... :P |
| 20:52.00 | NoImNotNineVolt | you're about 10 years too late :P |
| 20:52.28 | NoImNotNineVolt | the kids are all playing with accumulo and python now. |
| 20:52.29 | hrenza07 | hahahahaha just say playing |
| 20:52.49 | hrenza07 | I like rails |
| 20:52.55 | hrenza07 | and ruby scripting |
| 20:53.03 | hrenza07 | some bash |
| 20:53.20 | hrenza07 | and the powerfull C |
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| 20:59.48 | sIRwa2 | Hi, looking for webbased machine monitoring tools, any tips? thinking about Cacti or Munin |
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| 21:05.38 | kRush | I'm content with munin, but I don't do anything complicated with it |
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| 21:07.18 | sIRwa2 | for me its a single machine.. home server. nothing serious |
| 21:07.28 | kRush | pretty much the same |
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| 21:08.02 | sIRwa2 | ever used Catci? it looks a bit nicer |
| 21:08.13 | tytan | I have a PC with a Core 2 Quad and Zotac nVidia GT 720. I can't install the graphics driver :( |
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| 21:08.42 | kRush | nope |
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| 21:10.32 | kRush | if it's powered by php it can sod off |
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| 21:11.35 | sIRwa2 | lol. it looks more heavy..munin it will be! |
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| 21:12.10 | sIRwa2 | do i need the node aswell installed? |
| 21:12.29 | kRush | obviously |
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| 21:13.10 | sIRwa2 | oke. tnx |
| 21:13.27 | DammitJim | what is the official way to set an environment variable for a user? |
| 21:13.30 | NoImNotNineVolt | nm, problem solved. |
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| 21:13.34 | DammitJim | so that he doesn't have to set it every time? |
| 21:13.42 | DammitJim | I thought export did that, but I guess not |
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| 21:17.02 | RoyK | DammitJim: set it in $HOME/.bashrc |
| 21:17.18 | DammitJim | thanks RoyK that's what I did |
| 21:17.42 | RoyK | DammitJim: export YOURVAR=something |
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| 21:17.56 | DammitJim | yeah, that's what I did |
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| 21:19.02 | RoyK | DammitJim: and after logging in, is $YOURVAL set? |
| 21:19.12 | DammitJim | yeah |
| 21:19.30 | DammitJim | I just didn't know if this was the official way of doing this |
| 21:19.37 | DammitJim | I've heard of people putting stuff on /etc/profile |
| 21:19.37 | RoyK | it is |
| 21:19.45 | RoyK | that's global |
| 21:19.48 | paultag | nah, too easy |
| 21:19.48 | DammitJim | or $HOME/.login |
| 21:19.54 | paultag | put it somwhere in bash_completion.d |
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| 21:22.32 | Chakka____ | I hope this is a FAQ with a simple solution - but I have several servers on Debian Wheezy that consistently fail to reboot |
| 21:23.04 | Chakka____ | I do "reboot" or a "shutdown -r" and the system doesnt come down - it gets hung in some unaccessible state |
| 21:23.28 | Chakka____ | I usually have to use the remote console to restart it. I have tried options grub such as reboot=bios and reboot=acpi |
| 21:23.36 | Chakka____ | that doesnt seem to help. Any idearz? |
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| 21:33.42 | teraflops | Chakka____: are the servers the same hardware? |
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| 21:41.33 | Chakka | /teraflops: some are same, yes, I have a couple of Sun Fire x4170M2 systems that have this problem |
| 21:41.51 | teraflops | Chakka: but not only those 2? |
| 21:42.03 | Chakka | and some HS22 IBM blades have the same problem. All are nehalem generation. This is happening on 10 machines |
| 21:42.07 | Chakka | that are all on wheezy |
| 21:42.26 | Chakka | AMD64 kernel, wheezy with backports repo installed |
| 21:42.37 | teraflops | Chakka: and tore not using nothing as zfs of theyre not frankendebian? |
| 21:42.45 | teraflops | those* |
| 21:42.54 | Chakka | no zfs |
| 21:43.13 | teraflops | Chakka: tried with other kernel? |
| 21:43.17 | Chakka | just ext4 on a hardware raid setup (LSI) |
| 21:43.47 | Chakka | not sure what other kernel to use... the suns use the stock debian kernel, the IBM's use one I compiled. Same problem. |
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| 21:44.13 | Chakka | Linux libra 3.2.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.2.65-1 x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 21:44.29 | teraflops | Chakka: not mixing repos or apart the backports one? |
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| 21:44.40 | teraflops | srry lag |
| 21:45.03 | Chakka | dont think so - just wheezy + wheezy-backports |
| 21:45.07 | teraflops | Chakka: sounds weird |
| 21:45.24 | Chakka | I've added some other repos for the main line puppet and google chrome |
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| 21:46.06 | Chakka | shutdown problems are such a bitch to debug, since I cant log in and check what is happening |
| 21:46.21 | teraflops | Chakka: the hw raid is the same in all of them? |
| 21:46.42 | teraflops | i mean the chip/card/ |
| 21:47.22 | Chakka | no, the HS22 IBM blade is a ibm serverraid (LSI rebranded), the Sun has a non-rebranded LSI card that is a generation newer |
| 21:47.31 | Chakka | both are LSI tho |
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| 21:49.59 | teraflops | Chakka: uhm no clue |
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| 22:01.39 | sIRwa2 | kRush: My assumption is that Munin comes with its own webserver. am i wrong? |
| 22:03.03 | petemc | sIRwa2: you are, it uses apache or nginx |
| 22:03.10 | petemc | maybe others |
| 22:03.53 | sIRwa2 | hm. oke tnx petemc |
| 22:04.06 | petemc | np |
| 22:04.13 | Chakka____ | @teraflops - thanks for thinking with me on it |
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| 22:04.53 | sIRwa2 | which of the 2 is the lightest? |
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| 22:05.23 | petemc | i use apache and i mostly use it on raspberry pi |
| 22:05.40 | petemc | but thats only because im more familiar with apache |
| 22:07.03 | teraflops | Chakka____: np, just wondering if the mixation of raid device + distro + kernel may be the problem |
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| 22:08.03 | sIRwa2 | oke tnx. ive worked with apache before a little. |
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| 22:15.30 | kRush | apache is overkill, lighttpd or ngingx are much simpler |
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| 22:23.02 | elco_ | hi |
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| 22:47.16 | wjtaylor | I was backing up a lot of files and copied a 1.9TB folder off of a removable drive to one of my internal HDDs. It errored on a file and now I don't see some of the files on the source drive. Any ideas or explanation? |
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| 22:48.56 | petn-randall | wjtaylor: If you *copied* it, in contrast to moving, you shouldn't see any change in the source. Unless you have a filesystem or disk corruption. |
| 22:50.40 | wjtaylor | petn-randall: couldn't have been move because I see many of the same files on both drives. Couldn't have wiped them out before because I wouldn't have the files on the destination drive. HDD corruption is looking like an issue... |
| 22:50.52 | wjtaylor | Any way to undelete? |
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| 22:51.35 | kRush | just copy from your backup *ba-dum-tssh* |
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| 22:51.47 | wjtaylor | df -h Still shows the same amount of usage on the source HDD |
| 22:52.01 | wjtaylor | kRush: That WAS the backup! |
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| 22:52.23 | wjtaylor | *ba-dum-tssh* |
| 22:52.28 | wjtaylor | oh boy |
| 22:52.39 | petn-randall | wjtaylor: check with smartctl if the device is ok. |
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| 22:53.15 | wjtaylor | Is there any danger of further data loss if I remount it? |
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| 22:54.26 | petn-randall | wjtaylor: Possibly. |
| 22:54.26 | wjtaylor | smartctl can't detect the device type... |
| 22:54.33 | petn-randall | wjtaylor: Is it usb? |
| 22:54.36 | wjtaylor | yes |
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| 22:55.25 | petn-randall | wjtaylor: try the -d option, usbcypress or the other usb* parameters. |
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| 22:58.54 | wjtaylor | petn-randall: none worked. It also has an esata connection (I'm not using) |
| 22:59.02 | wjtaylor | It's a lacie |
| 22:59.57 | wjtaylor | http://www.smartmontools.org/wiki/Supported_USB-Devices |
| 23:00.05 | wjtaylor | should be recognizing usbjmicron |
| 23:00.12 | petn-randall | wjtaylor: Other way is to screw the HDD out and plug it straight into S-ATA. |
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| 23:01.03 | wjtaylor | So the df -h still shows the same amount of data usage... I just don't see the files. |
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| 23:01.15 | wjtaylor | Did the inodes get hosed? |
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| 23:01.36 | petn-randall | wjtaylor: Do you have I/O errors in /var/log/kern.log? |
| 23:01.56 | wjtaylor | Yeah it hit an error, I'll see if it's in the kern.log |
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| 23:02.53 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps |
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| 23:03.16 | Eryn_1983_FL | how stable are the nouveau video drivers for wheezy? |
| 23:03.20 | Eryn_1983_FL | er Jessie |
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| 23:05.25 | wjtaylor | petn-randall: It mounted the usb drive (hfs filesystem) read-only. Jan 14 15:36:00 Tesla kernel: [1058495.637624] hfs: recoff 47703 too large |
| 23:05.43 | Eryn_1983_FL | so i am hoping the nvidia drivers can solve my issue, |
| 23:06.01 | Eryn_1983_FL | everything works fine until i try to run video in XBMC then X freezes up. |
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| 23:06.17 | Eryn_1983_FL | are the nouveau drivers sttable |
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| 23:09.30 | xreal | When using mdadm to create RAID-5, how does my BIOS find grub on the correct disk? Do I need to install grub on every disk? |
| 23:11.40 | wjtaylor | petn-randall: mounted read-only.... must be safe to remount right? :D |
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| 23:11.59 | wjtaylor | maybe an issue with the hfs driver? |
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| 23:12.23 | wjtaylor | ...or maybe I just lost about 1.9 TB of data :/ |
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| 23:19.29 | frostschutz | xreal, yes, grub is on every disk |
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| 23:21.09 | xreal | frostschutz: does this work automatically? |
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| 23:39.43 | yukapaluda | Hi. I upgraded from wheezy to jessie. Most things seem to be working alright, except that some applications (Inkscape, Iceweasel, and others) are using an old-school GUI. Example: |
| 23:39.44 | yukapaluda | http://www.pasteall.org/pic/82361 |
| 23:40.05 | yukapaluda | Any advice? I don't seem to find anything on the Web about this. |
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| 23:41.42 | petn-randall | yukapaluda: You might have selected a theme that only supports GTK2 or GTK3; keep several programs open while changing themes to check if everything looks alright. |
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| 23:44.41 | yukapaluda | petn-randall: I'll try that thanks. Although I haven't modified themes. |
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| 23:50.27 | yukapaluda | petn-randall: No luck. gnome-tweek-tool says the system is using the default "Adwaita" theme. |
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| 23:53.58 | aypea[0] | should Defaults!CMD umask=0022 work given that CMD is a Cmnd_Alias? |
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| 23:54.30 | aypea[0] | gah |
| 23:54.35 | aypea[0] | in sudoers, should Defaults!CMD umask=0022 work given that CMD is a Cmnd_Alias? |
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| 23:57.56 | supaplex | with dpkg --get-selections and /etc/apt/sources.list* should I be able to install the same kind of machine again? |
| 23:58.47 | supaplex | and how can I see all confiles that were modified? (eg, back this up with the list, and other user content) |
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