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| 00:10.58 | Lis | how do i force the debian installation to be in textmode, vga no additional graphi drivers loaded |
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| 00:13.37 | nkuttler | Lis: nomodeset is probably a good start |
| 00:13.49 | nkuttler | Lis: what seems to be the problem anyway? |
| 00:14.04 | Lis | nkuttler, i cant install debian in uefi mode. only get a black screen |
| 00:14.26 | nkuttler | Lis: try booting with nomodeset |
| 00:14.51 | Lis | nkuttler, how do i set nomodeset in the installer? i currently do advanced options -> expert install -> press e -> add the stuff behind the vmlinuz line (before --) |
| 00:15.09 | nkuttler | Lis: oh, so the installer boots just fine? |
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| 00:15.30 | Lis | nkuttler, no. i cant go past the "start install" menu |
| 00:16.00 | Lis | nkuttler, how is it called the dvd boot menu?!? |
| 00:16.00 | nkuttler | Lis: i think you can specify boot parameters with the installer.. before booting it |
| 00:16.12 | Lis | nkuttler, how :D |
| 00:16.21 | nkuttler | i think the installer comes with grub, so you can type 'e' to edit grub entries |
| 00:16.35 | nkuttler | and just add nomodeset where the kernel parameters are... |
| 00:17.07 | nkuttler | i think that's the vmlinuz line, at the end... but i'd have to have that before my eyes to be sure |
| 00:19.02 | Lis | thats what i did... /install.amd/vmlinuz nomodeset prority=low vga=766 -- and /install.amd/vmlinuz prority=low vga=normal fb=none -- and /install.amd/vmlinuz acpi_osi=Linux backlight=vendor -- |
| 00:19.07 | Lis | all no effect |
| 00:19.31 | nkuttler | hrm, no idea then |
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| 00:20.45 | nkuttler | Lis: what kind of graphics chipset is that? |
| 00:21.16 | Lis | hybrid intel with nvidia dont know exact models right now |
| 00:24.33 | SynrG | lspci -nn | grep -i vga |
| 00:24.48 | nkuttler | well, that's hard to do when you can't boot |
| 00:24.52 | SynrG | true |
| 00:24.57 | nkuttler | ;) |
| 00:24.59 | SynrG | just caught up to that part :) |
| 00:25.17 | Lis | NVIDIA® GeForce GTX 660M and some intel.... uhm |
| 00:25.26 | nkuttler | Lis: did any other linux distro boot? did you google "linux install <computer model>"? |
| 00:25.30 | SynrG | can you pin it down to just one GPU in the bios? |
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| 00:26.59 | Lis | nice ide nkuttler google tells ubuntu works... but i hate ubuntu :( |
| 00:27.22 | Lis | it would just be happy if i could boot into a plain graphical vga shell with no extra stuff just text |
| 00:27.27 | Lis | isnt that possible? |
| 00:29.26 | nkuttler | Lis: have you tried legacy non-efi boot? |
| 00:29.53 | nkuttler | i don't think i ever had problems booting in vga mode.. |
| 00:30.19 | Lis | nkuttler, legacy works but not windows 8 |
| 00:30.35 | nkuttler | oh well :) |
| 00:30.39 | Lis | yea you know :D |
| 00:30.44 | nkuttler | can't grub chainload that? |
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| 00:31.08 | Lis | you know what a pain it was to reinstall win8 from dvd... until i even found out how i can do that whole #windows couldnt help me |
| 00:31.50 | Lis | nah i try to run with efi. no other option. wanna know how that works |
| 00:32.48 | Lis | nkuttler, the trick wass do download several win8 cds with that download tool they released. |
| 00:32.59 | Lis | nkuttler, they bind the cdkey to the download media |
| 00:33.33 | Lis | nkuttler, life is hard if you have a internet connection which is bandwidth based and not a true flatrate |
| 00:34.09 | nkuttler | well, you choose windows, you enjoy the pain |
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| 00:36.17 | Lis | hm but still isn't there an option for vga install?!? i only need a shell nothing more |
| 00:36.55 | Lis | i remember debian 7... you could switch everything additional off. even if your pc runned at 100% cpu it installed |
| 00:37.01 | nkuttler | Lis: well, you can switch the boot mode, install debian, try to chainload windows, if it fails you can still change the bios setting back and reinstall the bootloader |
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| 00:38.48 | Lis | hm i think i also write msi a mail. i cant set some bios options etc. |
| 00:39.11 | nkuttler | Lis: have you checked for bios upgrades? |
| 00:39.34 | Lis | if i could for example disable the second graphics card so only one is used i bet it works |
| 00:39.58 | Lis | nkuttler, yea. but i cant install them there is no option described in the dokumentation |
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| 00:40.17 | nkuttler | Lis: usually the vendors include docs with the downloads.. |
| 00:40.47 | Lis | nkuttler, i read them. but it stops with step 6. becouse i dont have that option in the bios |
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| 00:44.55 | Lis | hm maybe i try flashing it from windows |
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| 00:48.43 | interest1ng | hi i have a really simple question |
| 00:48.57 | interest1ng | when migrating to sid/unstable can i go straight froms stable -> sid |
| 00:49.09 | interest1ng | or do i have to go stable -> testing -> unstable |
| 00:49.45 | shay_shay | you can go straight |
| 00:50.32 | shay_shay | why do you think you need sid? |
| 00:51.01 | shay_shay | the software you need can likely be backported to jessie |
| 00:51.21 | shay_shay | and possibly even wheezy |
| 00:51.45 | shay_shay | !tell interest1ng about ssb |
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| 00:53.55 | interest1ng | shay_shay: thanks for the answer |
| 00:56.02 | shay_shay | interest1ng: after you get setup for backporting things (with deb-src pointing to sid) its only a few commands to install software from sid, so if you can remember apt-get update and apt-get install, then you shouldn't have a problem learning the backport process either |
| 00:56.13 | tastybuds | I installed python3-xlib using pip with a success output. When I dpkg -i python_program.deb the compiler says that python3-xlib isn't installed. |
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| 01:08.40 | Lis | hm updated bios still no success |
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| 01:13.25 | tastybuds | Oh, after all it's not my fault. |
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| 01:50.10 | f1r5t | How to not redirect packets in the same network on a specific port? |
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| 01:50.12 | Lis | still searching a way to install debian in uefi mode without any addition graphic setting just play text |
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| 01:52.08 | Lis | *plain |
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| 01:52.51 | f1r5t | Lis: You're in the right place ;) |
| 01:53.07 | f1r5t | I'm using linux (another distro, gentoo :D) on uefi |
| 01:53.35 | shay_shay | yeah and I've installed debian several times to uefi computers using debootstrap |
| 01:53.38 | f1r5t | if you want debian, install it in expert mode, no gui will be added |
| 01:54.19 | Lis | f1r5t, i tried. still black screen |
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| 01:54.59 | f1r5t | after install, or before? |
| 01:55.53 | Lis | before |
| 01:56.44 | f1r5t | turn off secure mode |
| 01:57.15 | Lis | i did |
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| 02:14.35 | Lis | well maybe i download ubuntu tomorrow and check it out |
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| 02:18.53 | roasted | I'm looking into pu tting Debian on an older mac mini for a little NAS. Is there any specific things to do to get Debian to boot on a Mac? All of the guides I read mention installing refit within OSX first, but this drive is 100% empty... |
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| 02:43.45 | NerdySnoopz1257 | Hi |
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| 02:44.29 | NerdySnoopz1257 | Hi Sauvin |
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| 02:49.42 | Sauvin | Wassup? |
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| 02:52.11 | Lis | tired. full of work. stress and... yea work starts in 5 hours |
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| 03:05.11 | prof_milki | Is there a more complete summary of binary debian/control dependency fields somewhere? The maintainers/policy manual is a little coarse, doesn't mention "Depends: foo (>= 1.0, << 2.0)" for instance, and/or if "|" alternatives are supported in parens too. |
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| 03:06.31 | prof_milki | And it's difficul to decipher http://anonscm.debian.org/cgit/dpkg/dpkg.git/tree/lib/dpkg/fields.c#n362 et al. |
| 03:07.26 | capin | im checking mail.log and mail.err but it appears the hours are wrong on the timestamps, i just changed the tz of the box to my local tz but im still getting incorrect hours on the timestamps, i think its currently set to UTC |
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| 03:12.54 | capin | nm, figured it out |
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| 03:27.36 | hikenboot | hi is there a set of packages that control autodetection of video on a system for debian-live |
| 03:28.18 | dondelelcaro | autodetection? |
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| 03:28.39 | dondelelcaro | you just plug a video camera in, and if you're using something which uses it, it'll see it |
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| 03:29.08 | tommyF | i think he means xorg wise |
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| 03:31.59 | hikenboot | yes does the package discover handle that? |
| 03:32.32 | tommyF | it should when you choose your de/wm - why what is the problem there |
| 03:33.18 | hikenboot | building a live cd, doesnt correctly detect windows but the gparted live cd does (which has the same packages as mine(plus mine has others) |
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| 03:35.18 | tommyF | i'm gonna guess your installer is lacking what the gparted live cd has |
| 03:35.37 | hikenboot | I would say thats a fair assement |
| 03:36.01 | hikenboot | at this point I am not sure what it is that is missing.. |
| 03:37.04 | tommyF | why reinvent the wheel? what are you adding? why not a mountable cd that can be used after the installer cd does it's magic |
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| 03:37.37 | hikenboot | not reinventing the wheel, adding functionality |
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| 03:38.27 | tommyF | my wheels have baseball cards in the spokes .,.. what added functionality are you adding? |
| 03:39.12 | tommyF | if you have it automatically install a wn/de like fluxbox i think it will autoconfig the x |
| 03:39.32 | tommyF | i have no experience with gnome or kde |
| 03:40.34 | hikenboot | in my case I have added gnome, but I have been programming gparted to do advanced functions like managing windows raid and dynamic disks |
| 03:42.24 | tommyF | for multiple computer installs? |
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| 03:42.55 | tommyF | so what does gnome have to do with windows??? raid and dynamic disks/ |
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| 03:52.31 | hikenboot | raid and dynamic disks ...correct and a few other big things |
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| 03:54.29 | user2015 | Good evening i have a problem. Please see the imagen |
| 03:54.32 | user2015 | http://imgur.com/yzXPihA |
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| 03:56.37 | user2015 | Who can help me please |
| 03:56.47 | tommyF | more fun to have you struggel in english ;) |
| 03:56.56 | tommyF | what is your problem |
| 03:57.01 | DrakkenWarr | download a new iso user2015, format your usb stick and try again |
| 03:57.09 | DrakkenWarr | looks like you have a corrupt iso |
| 03:57.43 | user2015 | I have it |
| 03:58.05 | DrakkenWarr | no, delete that one, down load a new one and run the MD5 against the new download |
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| 03:59.36 | DrakkenWarr | user2015: Are you using unetbootin to create the bootable usb? |
| 03:59.50 | user2015 | I have a dvd |
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| 04:00.04 | DrakkenWarr | are you buring the iso in windows? |
| 04:00.32 | user2015 | No with brasero in debian. |
| 04:01.08 | user2015 | I have 3 dvd. And nothing |
| 04:01.26 | user2015 | Later i could use it |
| 04:01.27 | DrakkenWarr | from that error, it really looks like you have a bad iso |
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| 04:02.27 | user2015 | But later working |
| 04:02.55 | DrakkenWarr | so you where able to install it? |
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| 04:06.09 | user2015 | I dont know what happen now i cant see debian. I go to send other imagen with other iso |
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| 04:21.46 | user2015 | http://imgur.com/KUj6UDO |
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| 04:22.43 | user2015 | Other ISO i have the same problem |
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| 04:50.39 | veek | anyone familiar with filezilla on linux? i use puttygen to create a key-pair.. i put the public key on the server and feed my pvt key to filezilla BUT filezilla generates a public key.. how the heck? |
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| 04:53.13 | iWaldo | if i need libc >= 2.14, is adding the testing repo, giving it a low pin, and then selecting the glibc6 package from said repo a safe way to install it on a mostly stable install? |
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| 04:54.32 | Rusty1 | there appears to be a #fileziilla channel FWIW, veek |
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| 04:55.57 | iWaldo | i haven't used anything from testing yet, only a few backports |
| 04:56.20 | iWaldo | just don't want to bork anything (which i imagine is taken care of with libc backwards compat?) |
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| 05:52.33 | owen1 | i see something on port 3000 using netstat -tlnp. how to find the process itself? |
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| 05:53.05 | zerick | owen1, lsof should be fine |
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| 05:54.25 | owen1 | zerick: lsof -Pnl +M -i4 but i don't see anything on port 3000. maybe i got the wrong arguments? |
| 05:54.40 | zerick | owen1, lsof -i :3000 |
| 05:55.06 | owen1 | zerick: nothing shows up |
| 05:55.38 | zerick | post your netstat output |
| 05:55.39 | owen1 | zerick: that's the output of netstat: tcp6 0 0 :::3000 :::* LISTEN - |
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| 05:57.30 | zerick | owen1, are you sure? netstat last column should tell something (on PID/Program name) |
| 05:58.46 | owen1 | zerick: i run netstat -tlnp |
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| 05:58.52 | owen1 | should i ommit all the arguments? |
| 05:59.03 | zerick | no, post the full output |
| 05:59.12 | zerick | use paste.debian.net plz |
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| 06:00.47 | owen1 | zerick: http://paste.debian.net/141188/ |
| 06:01.06 | zerick | owen1, oh.. ok, use sudo |
| 06:01.18 | zerick | that's why you can't see anything |
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| 06:02.03 | owen1 | zerick: tcp6 0 0 :::3000 :::* LISTEN 22683/docker-proxy |
| 06:02.03 | zerick | also with lsof use sudo, sorry for omitting that possibility :) |
| 06:02.08 | owen1 | zerick: docker! |
| 06:02.20 | owen1 | i got a docker container that uses that port |
| 06:02.41 | zerick | I guess is the container platform proxy |
| 06:02.52 | owen1 | i don't know what that means |
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| 06:03.14 | owen1 | but yeah. my container is running on 3000 |
| 06:03.15 | zerick | it's from docker not from your container itself |
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| 06:04.14 | owen1 | i am running with with: docker run -it -p 3000:3000 -v $(pwd):/home/deploy --name node-app node /bin/bash |
| 06:04.22 | owen1 | the -p is for opening ports |
| 06:04.51 | zerick | oh, ok |
| 06:05.16 | owen1 | thanks! |
| 06:05.18 | zerick | :) |
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| 06:12.35 | Kamilion | Anyone seen issues with tail -f not following a file? |
| 06:12.43 | Kamilion | such as anything in /var/log/ |
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| 06:22.07 | centrx | Kamilion, That happens if the file is deleted or moved |
| 06:22.24 | centrx | Kamilion, So maybe logrotate ran while tail -f was running |
| 06:22.48 | rryoumaa | "program smartctl is using a deprecated SCSI ioctl, please convert it to SG_IO" |
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| 06:26.31 | Kamilion | centrx: tried with -F too, file wasn't moved. (log in /var/log/ ) |
| 06:26.57 | Kamilion | centrx: answer is then "no, I havn't seen any issues." ? |
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| 06:27.10 | centrx | Kamilion, How do you know the file wasn't moved? |
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| 06:27.19 | Kamilion | Good question. |
| 06:27.47 | Kamilion | I'm making an educated assumption... but it's possible logrotate is doing something behind my back I guess. |
| 06:27.58 | Kamilion | how could I check? |
| 06:28.31 | Kamilion | I'm pretty much assuming rsyslog isn't removing /var/log/auth.log every time it writes to it. |
| 06:29.02 | Kamilion | but then again, with new-file-atomic-rename, that could be occuring and I wouldn't know offhand. |
| 06:29.05 | centrx | Kamilion, check the creation date of the file? |
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| 06:29.40 | Kamilion | access is december 5th, modify is today, change is today. |
| 06:29.47 | Kamilion | birth is - |
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| 06:31.01 | Kamilion | hmm, okay, I bet this is something to do with overlayfs then |
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| 06:31.18 | Kamilion | liveiso |
| 06:32.12 | Kamilion | centrx: Thank you very much, I think I've nailed it. |
| 06:32.31 | Kamilion | your questions were spot on :D |
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| 06:38.03 | ns5 | How can I download the src deb from this page and rebuild it? https://launchpad.net/~mosquitto-dev/+archive/ubuntu/mosquitto-ppa/+packages |
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| 06:39.03 | Kamilion | centrx: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=583198#20 indicates the ---disable-inotify parameter is undocumented, and fixes my issue. Thanks again! |
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| 07:26.06 | CHVNX | Does anyone know how I can pipe espeak output through sox so that I can add reverb? |
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| 07:28.43 | remotecore | (Deb-Testing) I've got a Ralink RT3090 -- It's having what seems like a known issue and I cant seem to find much more info that what I have -- It will drop the speeds from 20Mbit burst and steady at 20Kbit/s |
| 07:29.20 | remotecore | No matter the outside vars, It was a acknowledged issue back in 2011, and it was on the 2x00 mailing list, but it was never resolved |
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| 07:30.36 | remotecore | the drivers are opensourced, but are for 2.6 Kernel :( -- Is there any hope for this Wifi Card? (I've done firmware hacking, Custom Kernels (Latest Mainline, and Older 3.0 Kernels) and NDISwrappers |
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| 07:48.11 | andhoy | anyone knows how to convert html files to pdf from cli? |
| 07:49.35 | SirLagz | andhoy: i'm sure there's a guide on how to do that somewhere... |
| 07:50.19 | harmaahylje | there are tools for that, just google |
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| 07:51.42 | Stummi | andhoy, phantomjs can do this, I think |
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| 08:02.19 | achu | "/msg dpkg guidelines" |
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| 08:09.31 | andhoy | thanks Stummi :) |
| 08:09.45 | hypermist | my nodejs broke |
| 08:09.51 | hypermist | and now i can't use it |
| 08:09.51 | hypermist | :\ |
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| 08:10.02 | hypermist | re-installings arent working all i get is -bash: /usr/sbin/node: No such file or directory |
| 08:10.15 | folivora | http://pastie.org/9839669 <- got this prob when trying to install locales. How I could fix it ? |
| 08:10.21 | hypermist | wait i may have just had a minor fail |
| 08:11.48 | nurupo | hypermist: symlink to nodejs, maybe? |
| 08:12.46 | nurupo | though i wonder why it's looking in /sbin in the first place |
| 08:13.46 | hypermist | nurupo never mind node didn't install |
| 08:14.35 | hypermist | and now i need to start something but its not starting haha. and its not apart of this chan |
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| 08:31.29 | chesseking | Hi |
| 08:31.33 | chesseking | I am cheeseking |
| 08:31.39 | chesseking | May I ask you sth? |
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| 08:32.52 | chesseking | HELP HELP HELP |
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| 08:33.03 | chesseking | HELP HELP HELP |
| 08:34.10 | chesseking | dpkg: hi |
| 08:34.10 | dpkg | privet |
| 08:34.13 | chesseking | dpkg: wa |
| 08:34.14 | dpkg | wha? what in $DIETY's name are you talking about? wtf? |
| 08:34.21 | tugrik | chesseking: it's best to just ask the question and see if it piques anyone's interest |
| 08:34.41 | chesseking | dpkg: how can I ask that SOMEBODY help me? |
| 08:34.43 | dpkg | chesseking: I don't know, could you explain it? |
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| 08:34.52 | tugrik | typing in capitals is the equivalent of shouting, which is unlikely to get anyone to help you |
| 08:35.03 | chesseking | HI ALL NICE TO SEE YOU MY QUESTION IS |
| 08:35.05 | maik | just ask the question so we can ignore you |
| 08:35.09 | chesseking | when debian 8 comes? |
| 08:35.10 | tugrik | also chesseking - you are not cheeseking, you are chesseking, hope that helps |
| 08:35.57 | chesseking | my neighbour said before FOSDEM! |
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| 08:37.15 | chesseking_ | it hang |
| 08:37.25 | chesseking_ | So when it comes before FOSDEM? |
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| 08:43.42 | folivora | Could anyone point how I can solve this dependency: http://pastie.org/9839703 |
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| 08:46.54 | ArtVandalae | Looks like locales depends on a specific version of glibc (as opposed to a minimum version). |
| 08:47.09 | jelly | folivora: you'd have to get the locale package from the same place you got the libc6 package -- that is, not wheezy |
| 08:47.14 | ArtVandalae | what about using locales from testing? |
| 08:47.28 | ArtVandalae | what jelly said ^^ |
| 08:47.51 | jelly | folivora: or downgrade libc6 to the available version, with unknown consequences |
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| 08:56.03 | folivora | ArtVandalae: I tried from testing, but the same problem is there... |
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| 09:05.59 | ntz | hello |
| 09:06.14 | ntz | is there someone able to explain me this mystery :: http://susepaste.org/view/raw/17987985 ? thanks |
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| 09:07.31 | maliboy | I have a question, would Debian have an auto updater in Jessie ? |
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| 09:10.04 | Iridos | auto updater? |
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| 09:10.38 | maliboy | Iridos, like a GUI notification center that all these updates are there and install it now ? |
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| 09:11.06 | maliboy | Iridos, so a gui updater |
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| 09:11.26 | Iridos | the default gnome pops up messages when new updates are there |
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| 09:11.42 | Iridos | I always click it away and use commandline interface, though |
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| 09:15.16 | Iridos | ntz, so what exactly is the mystery there? |
| 09:15.39 | Iridos | oh well |
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| 09:15.53 | Iridos | ntz, guess the answer is "soft-link" |
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| 09:17.56 | maliboy | Iridos, I want to switch from Window OS, but I am waiting for updated Jessie version, which is it coming out ? any idea ? |
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| 09:22.14 | maliboy | folks, If I download Debian today and use testing repos, would I be using early version of Jessie already ? |
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| 09:23.24 | macrobat | maliboy: why not use vanilla and then update when the new version is released? |
| 09:24.47 | macrobat | if you like clicking on buttons, stay with the current releases. |
| 09:25.09 | maliboy | macrobat, but I want hplip 3.14 |
| 09:25.27 | maliboy | also some other stuff which is only there in Jessie |
| 09:25.35 | maliboy | so holding back |
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| 09:26.58 | macrobat | what I mean is that running unstable is more involved and requires more debian competence |
| 09:27.40 | maliboy | by when would Jessie be out ? |
| 09:28.12 | macrobat | when it's good and ready |
| 09:28.17 | Iridos | maliboy, When It's Ready... there is no fixed release date |
| 09:28.45 | Iridos | maliboy, also... Sooner If You Help ... it will be released when the number of bugs in the bugtracking database has reached zero |
| 09:28.56 | maliboy | Ok |
| 09:29.58 | maliboy | Iridos, does debian deblob the kernel an also provide and apply some patching on the linux that are not there in linux-libre / |
| 09:30.34 | maliboy | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:30.41 | maliboy | on Intel HD graphics |
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| 09:31.09 | Iridos | I guess you'll have to look at the debian-patches to the kernel for that... |
| 09:31.43 | Iridos | I know that firmware was thrown out of main and the regular installer images because that causes a lot of problems and people coming here |
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| 09:33.23 | ntz | Iridos: soft-link ? you mean symbolic link, right ? |
| 09:33.51 | ntz | but anyhow, I can't reproduce this behaviour anywhere else, it happens only in this (*&%$#@) debian |
| 09:34.07 | Iridos | maliboy, and to your original question... yes, jessie is already frozen, that means no new versions will come in, only bugs will be fixed for the release... if you have a sources.list with "jessie" in it, you will now use jessie-testing and stay with jessie when it becomes stable |
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| 09:34.44 | Iridos | ntz, blame it on the a-a-a-a-alcohol? |
| 09:35.30 | Iridos | ntz, what does ls -ld /var/lib/rancid/logs /var/lib/rancid/ say |
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| 09:35.59 | ntz | that /var/lib/rancid/logs pointing to ../../rancid |
| 09:36.08 | ntz | == /var/log/rancid/ |
| 09:36.45 | ntz | Iridos: http://susepaste.org/view/raw/2710836 |
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| 09:37.18 | ntz | but it must be something debian specific, I try to reproduce exactly this here in solaris and in el6 and simply, it just does not happen |
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| 09:37.41 | Iridos | ntz, well... can you figure out the rest from there or do you need more pointers? :) |
| 09:37.53 | Iridos | it's not debian-specific |
| 09:38.04 | maliboy | Iridos, in fact I love that Kernel is fully free |
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| 09:39.02 | Iridos | ntz, debian basically uses the same components to build a system... of course, completion-rules might be debian specific... but most properties are properties of the software you use (i.e. bash) or the kernel (file systems) |
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| 09:39.42 | Iridos | anyway, I guess I better wörk, wörk |
| 09:39.50 | svetlana | how do i know which packages provide a certain command ? |
| 09:40.04 | svetlana | ie which java runtimes i may install to run .jar |
| 09:40.04 | ntz | Iridos: indeed, sorry o.O |
| 09:40.33 | jelly | dpkg, tell svetlana about search |
| 09:40.37 | jelly | dpkg, tell svetlana about apt-file |
| 09:40.46 | Iridos | svetlana, you could install command-not-found and it would show you when you type the command... or apt-file and search for bin/command |
| 09:41.14 | jelly | svetlana: in this case, install "default-jre" |
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| 09:44.14 | Iridos | ntz, and this is just... as you have weird soft-links... the completion seems to see that you're in blubb/log which is a soft-link to blubb, and blubb contains the file... the ls command uses .. which goes down one level further... bash generally tries to make your life easier by keeping soft-links in your $PWD... and sometimes that leads to weird results... Maybe it shouldn't do that... either way, I'd say not a big deal, though... |
| 09:44.19 | svetlana | some software does not run on some JREs I think, I'm trying to find which ones exist. |
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| 09:45.57 | ntz | Iridos: not my way of doing things .. I just took over these servers and did not install debian there (or set up things) .. now trying to investigate what's all there and will reinstall them to the centos |
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| 10:25.20 | linuxator | my debian box failes to connect to internet.the networkmanafer panel icon is marked with an x.how to fix this? |
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| 10:26.40 | svetlana | wifi or ethernet |
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| 10:42.27 | ryushe | Hi there, for some reason getting '301 Moved Permanently' when getting apt to update. I can reach the source just fine via links, and the specified directories seem to exist. Any indication of what's going on? Debian 7.8 using "deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable main" in sources.list |
| 10:43.43 | linuxator | my debian box failes to connect to internet.the networkmanager panel icon is marked with an x.how to fix this? |
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| 11:07.16 | Iridos | self-solving, apparently |
| 11:07.19 | Iridos | !next |
| 11:07.19 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
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| 11:13.19 | ntz | !ask |
| 11:13.20 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 11:53.38 | nkuttler | i'm seeing a dos attack on a webserver. i've disabled logging, but would still like to be able to do some basic analysis of the logs.. should i log to a ramdisk, or can i log to /dev/null and intercept the stream somehow? |
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| 11:54.02 | nkuttler | not too keen on a ramdisk as i think i'd need to logrotate or somesuch.. |
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| 11:55.17 | phaer | nkuttler, You should be able to use a named pipe for that. |
| 11:55.28 | nkuttler | phaer: will look into that, thanks |
| 11:55.35 | phaer | !next |
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| 13:06.44 | rbnielsen | Question: I have a flash drive (/dev/sdb1) mounted automatically to /media/usb0. I can read the contents of the drive (ls) but when I attempt to copy some file to it, I get "Permission denied". How can this be? I'm guessing it hasn't mounted with my user rights, but as root. Since this occurs automatically, how can I change it, so that I may copy files to it? |
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| 13:07.45 | rbnielsen | Additionally, I have an external harddrive which, when I connect it with usb, mounts automatically and shows up on the desktop. This does not happen with the aforementioned usb flash drive. |
| 13:08.11 | Iridos | rbnielsen, what filesystem is on it, fat? question is also what mounts it... usually the desktop environment does it, i.e. gnome3 - if it does, then it is automatically mounted as the user that is logged into the graphical interface |
| 13:08.21 | rbnielsen | I'm running Wheezy |
| 13:08.34 | rbnielsen | It should very much be a fat drive, yes. |
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| 13:09.27 | rbnielsen | Hang on, let me pastebin dmesg.. |
| 13:10.15 | Iridos | "mount" output should tell you if it's mounted by root |
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| 13:10.24 | Iridos | the question really is "what mounts it" |
| 13:10.41 | Iridos | you might have "usbmount" installed... that would give you the behavior you described |
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| 13:13.18 | enzoMatrixx | rbnielsen: try ls -la in /media/ and tell me what you see |
| 13:13.20 | rbnielsen | Since I'm failing at trying to copy the relevant stuff of dmesg, I'll just explain my way out of it.. ;) |
| 13:13.42 | rbnielsen | It doesn't mention anything about being mounted as my user or root. |
| 13:13.50 | rbnielsen | Ok |
| 13:14.24 | rbnielsen | http://paste.debian.net/141212 |
| 13:14.31 | petn-randall | rbnielsen: Showing us any output via http://paste.debian.net would be great. If you run into difficulties doing this, give us a ping. |
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| 13:15.18 | rbnielsen | Yes, I'm using pastebinit, but if I do that you'd get the entire dmesg. Which I was trying not to do. ;) |
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| 13:16.59 | rbnielsen | enzoMatrixx, I pasted the ls -la in the above link. |
| 13:17.00 | Iridos | rbnielsen, you could send the whole mount... |
| 13:17.11 | Iridos | or dmesg | tail -50 | pastebinit - |
| 13:17.44 | rbnielsen | tail! That was it command I couldn't remember. :p |
| 13:18.00 | Iridos | chasing your own tail is no good |
| 13:18.44 | petn-randall | rbnielsen: What it the output of 'mount'? |
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| 13:18.58 | rbnielsen | Dmesg: http://paste.debian.net/141214 |
| 13:19.25 | rbnielsen | mount: http://paste.debian.net/141215 |
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| 13:20.18 | Iridos | only the last line is from the mount itself, the rest is from udev finding a device, so that's useless for learning something about your problem |
| 13:20.50 | enzoMatrixx | relaxed: have rwxrwxrwx so he must can write on usbdrive:P |
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| 13:21.28 | petn-randall | enzoMatrixx: Rainbow permissions seldomly solve the problem, but do introduce interesting security holes. :) |
| 13:21.32 | Iridos | enzoMatrixx, he doesn't |
| 13:22.16 | Iridos | oh, he means set it... but you cannot set unix permissions on fat |
| 13:22.19 | rbnielsen | I get a Permission Denied, when trying to copy, say a pdf, to the drive using terminal |
| 13:22.43 | Iridos | rbnielsen, we still want to see the output of "mount" for that drive as a first thing |
| 13:22.58 | petn-randall | Iridos: 14:19 < rbnielsen > mount: http://paste.debian.net/141215 |
| 13:23.20 | rbnielsen | :) |
| 13:23.26 | rbnielsen | Or did you mean something else? |
| 13:23.34 | enzoMatrixx | petn-randall: but you saw his permissions to sdb1?:) |
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| 13:24.47 | petn-randall | enzoMatrixx: Sure, what's with them? |
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| 13:26.23 | enzoMatrixx | http://paste.debian.net/141212 |
| 13:26.36 | enzoMatrixx | he have rwxrwxrwx on sdb1 |
| 13:26.56 | enzoMatrixx | sorry usb0 |
| 13:27.04 | petn-randall | enzoMatrixx: drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 16384 Jan 1 1970 usb0 |
| 13:27.09 | Iridos | oh, missed that |
| 13:27.21 | petn-randall | I fail to understand how you see rwxrwxrwx there. |
| 13:27.39 | petn-randall | Great timestamp though :D |
| 13:27.42 | enzoMatrixx | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Dec 5 14:21 usb -> usb0 |
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| 13:27.53 | petn-randall | That's a softlink, they all have that. |
| 13:27.56 | rbnielsen | Regarding usbmount, it seems it is installed (I don't remember installing it..). Would it help it I remove it? |
| 13:27.57 | Iridos | enzoMatrixx, that's a soft-link, not a real file |
| 13:28.09 | Iridos | rbnielsen, if your DE mounts it instead, yes |
| 13:28.14 | enzoMatrixx | oh crap you have right sorry :P |
| 13:28.30 | enzoMatrixx | i have -0,5 dp on my glassess;p |
| 13:28.39 | Iridos | rbnielsen, see what happens when you uninstall it... if it doesn't mount automatically, open nautilus and mount it with a click from there |
| 13:28.47 | rbnielsen | My DE is xfce, so I suppose. |
| 13:29.21 | rbnielsen | Ok, I will try to remove it. |
| 13:29.30 | Iridos | you could still call nautilus, I guess... no idea what (if anything) xfce uses for mounting... but as your other hard-drive was mounted and apparently not by usbmount... |
| 13:29.37 | Iridos | something seems to do it |
| 13:29.44 | Iridos | and it seems to be a race who mounts it first |
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| 13:29.58 | jalalsfs | How can I let any command line suggests its option when I type 'Tap' button? |
| 13:30.25 | Iridos | jalalsfs, by using zsh as a shell, I guess |
| 13:31.21 | Vroomfondle | jalalsfs: there is a package called "bash-completion" which install tab-completion for the arguments for common unix utilities |
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| 13:31.25 | enzoMatrixx | mayby let him try manual mount in mnt? |
| 13:31.51 | rbnielsen | Now it doesn't show up in mount at all. Also I can't see it in the file manager. |
| 13:32.31 | rbnielsen | It device does show in dmesg, though |
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| 13:33.46 | Iridos | rbnielsen, maybe that's why someone installed usbmount :P |
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| 13:34.09 | Iridos | still, file manager like nautilus should be able to see it as an unmounted available device |
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| 13:34.47 | rbnielsen | But.. My external harddrive and its 4 partions show up. |
| 13:35.20 | rbnielsen | Though not in mount, but in the file manager |
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| 13:39.08 | enzoMatrixx | petn-randall: i have question :) |
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| 13:39.52 | enzoMatrixx | if Iridos have on pendrive switch readonly he will can't mount as rw :) |
| 13:43.51 | Iridos | rbnielsen, if that is also connected via usb, I don't see why there is *any* difference to a stick |
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| 13:44.16 | rbnielsen | Exactly. |
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| 13:44.40 | Iridos | rbnielsen, if you're pretty much the only user, simplest fix would be to install usbmount again and configure it to mount anything it finds as a specific user |
| 13:44.41 | rbnielsen | The harddrive is a usb 3.0 device, whereas the pen is a noname usb device. |
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| 13:45.23 | Iridos | it would of course be more satisfactory to figure out what's (not) happening and why |
| 13:45.45 | Iridos | but what the DEs do or do not do often remains a mystery |
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| 13:46.07 | rbnielsen | I'm a big fan of "doing things properly". So personally I would prefer finding out why and fix it. :) |
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| 13:46.24 | jalalsfs | Vroomfondle, It's installed, but no completion. |
| 13:47.00 | Iridos | rbnielsen, it's preferable... but also a matter of the time one wants to invest |
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| 13:47.26 | rbnielsen | I'm not sure if I have something to back it with, but I have a feeling that the issue lies in the fact that the drive identifes as a USB Drive, whereas the pen identifies as a Flash Drive. |
| 13:47.32 | rbnielsen | But I don't know |
| 13:47.38 | Iridos | also... I always feel the DEs are a bit of a mess... so the proper fix might be a patch to the source of something inside the DE |
| 13:47.45 | rbnielsen | Flash Disk, sorry. |
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| 13:47.58 | abrotman | in /proc/partitions? |
| 13:48.24 | rbnielsen | One moment.. |
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| 13:49.22 | abrotman | rbnielsen: gvfs-mount -l ? (You're using gnome? ) |
| 13:49.34 | rbnielsen | /proc/partitions: http://paste.debian.net/141219 |
| 13:49.43 | enzoMatrixx | abrotman: he using xfce |
| 13:49.45 | rbnielsen | abrotman, I use xfce |
| 13:49.51 | abrotman | but using gvfs? |
| 13:49.52 | rbnielsen | Ninja'd. ;) |
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| 13:52.11 | rbnielsen | gvfs-mount: http://paste.debian.net/141221 |
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| 13:53.00 | rbnielsen | Maybe it is because when I installed debian in the first place the drive is partitioned with lvm? I don't know.. |
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| 13:57.07 | petn-randall | enzoMatrixx: What is your question then? |
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| 13:59.05 | enzoMatrixx | petn-randall: it was down line :) |
| 13:59.23 | enzoMatrixx | sorry |
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| 14:04.39 | verodeb | hi |
| 14:04.48 | verodeb | <PROTECTED> |
| 14:04.55 | verodeb | but when i do: echo stats | nc 127.0.0.1 11211 |
| 14:05.01 | verodeb | nothing is displayed |
| 14:05.46 | abrotman | are you sure it's listening on that port? |
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| 14:06.28 | ntz | verodeb: check `netstat -tulnp | grep 11211' |
| 14:06.34 | ntz | then check iptables |
| 14:06.40 | ntz | then check the logs of that app |
| 14:06.56 | ntz | but yeah, localhost should not be limited by iptables |
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| 14:08.03 | verodeb | netstat |
| 14:08.04 | verodeb | says |
| 14:08.06 | verodeb | tcp 0 0 127.0.0.1:11211 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN 32237/memcached |
| 14:08.08 | enzoMatrixx | how can I download source? I see 3 dvd's 4,4gb |
| 14:08.11 | verodeb | udp 0 0 127.0.0.1:11211 0.0.0.0:* 32237/memcached |
| 14:08.17 | abrotman | enzoMatrixx: source of what? |
| 14:08.18 | enzoMatrixx | i must download all? |
| 14:08.21 | enzoMatrixx | debian |
| 14:08.30 | abrotman | enzoMatrixx: those aren't the source code DVDs |
| 14:08.51 | enzoMatrixx | http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.8.0/source/iso-dvd/ |
| 14:08.56 | enzoMatrixx | so what is it? |
| 14:09.20 | abrotman | oh, those are, I thought you were talking about the normal ones |
| 14:09.27 | verodeb | ntz: the log is empty |
| 14:09.32 | abrotman | enzoMatrixx: are you sure you want all the source? why not use http to get package sources? |
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| 14:09.43 | enzoMatrixx | i talking about system sources |
| 14:09.45 | verodeb | should it be because the user of memcached is nobody? |
| 14:09.52 | ntz | verodeb: then fix your app - and btw nc won't usually give any output |
| 14:10.17 | enzoMatrixx | abrotman: i want a source of system not only a package source |
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| 14:10.49 | abrotman | enzoMatrixx: yes, but you can get those via HTTP sources also |
| 14:11.00 | verodeb | on my localmachine nc shows output |
| 14:11.26 | enzoMatrixx | abrotman: how? |
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| 14:12.18 | hikenboot | I am hoping someeone might be able to point me in the right direction. is there a collection of debian packages and scripts one can install that give debian the ability to detect hardware (including video) most of the time on the fly? |
| 14:12.47 | enzoMatrixx | and this is 20gb all of debian sources? |
| 14:12.57 | abrotman | dpkg: tell enzoMatrixx about deb-src |
| 14:13.17 | abrotman | hikenboot: that's how it's supposed to work to begin with ? |
| 14:14.00 | Vroomfondle | hikenboot: it does that (or at least tries to do it) by default... |
| 14:14.10 | ChrisH | hikenboot: thats what netinst does for me all the time. |
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| 14:15.36 | enzoMatrixx | abrotman: but the dvd on the site od sources debian is 1 on i they are much ? |
| 14:17.27 | abrotman | 1 on i? |
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| 14:17.48 | verodeb | ntz: if i do ping on localhost |
| 14:17.56 | verodeb | the server doesnt responde |
| 14:17.59 | enzoMatrixx | sorrry 1 or 8 |
| 14:18.02 | verodeb | this isntnormal |
| 14:18.24 | hikenboot | yes, but it appears on my chroot I have missed something that allows this to occur effectively |
| 14:19.22 | abrotman | enzoMatrixx: are much what? |
| 14:19.38 | abrotman | hikenboot: it's a chroot, what hardware detection would oyu like? |
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| 14:21.01 | enzoMatrixx | abrotman: I'm sorry but I don't know I must download one DVD or every eight DVD's? |
| 14:21.20 | petn-randall | hikenboot: As always, details matter. A chroot should do no HW detection at all, because you're not running a kernel in there, and the services there don't get started by default, either. |
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| 14:22.04 | abrotman | enzoMatrixx: if you want all of the sources, all 8 |
| 14:22.11 | hikenboot | ok I followed these directions and installed gnome as well http://willhaley.com/blog/create-a-custom-debian-live-environment/ |
| 14:22.19 | abrotman | hence why I keep saying to use HTTP sources for deb-src things |
| 14:22.37 | hikenboot | it almost works perfectly ...just the hardware detection isnt working |
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| 14:22.59 | hikenboot | I assume I must be missing packages that control this |
| 14:23.22 | enzoMatrixx | abrotman: thank you |
| 14:23.26 | hikenboot | I had no luck with getting linux lb to work so i went back to this method |
| 14:23.46 | abrotman | load balancing? |
| 14:24.04 | petn-randall | hikenboot: Which hardware isn't detected then? |
| 14:24.12 | hikenboot | video and networking |
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| 14:24.40 | petn-randall | hikenboot: What is the output of dmesg on that system? |
| 14:25.20 | hikenboot | hold on i have to figure out how to get it from vbox to a pastebin |
| 14:26.19 | hikenboot | is there anything in dmesg in particular i should be looking for like grep -i error? |
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| 14:28.25 | hikenboot | if this is any help, I get the message flash up that says a problem has occured and the system can't recover all extensions hav ebeen disabled as a precaution |
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| 14:31.20 | hikenboot | getting gnome-shell [3503 segault at 0 ip 00007f117deb23e9 sp 00007ffff6d146e0 error 4 in libupopwer-glib.so.3.0.... |
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| 14:31.36 | hikenboot | which is more than i was getting |
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| 14:33.53 | petn-randall | hikenboot: If you're getting segfaults, that sounds like a more fundamental problem. Do you get them on the same HW with a plain Debian install? |
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| 14:35.45 | hikenboot | yes I did, I really hope i dont have to backup all the way, i have done a lot of work in this chroot |
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| 14:37.56 | hikenboot | I do have a complete list of commands I executed but it would take forever to start all over again...I am thinking from what I read it might have something to do with the version of glibc in jessie |
| 14:38.15 | hikenboot | can I downgrade it and still keep jessie working? |
| 14:39.06 | folivora | Hi, I have got a problem with my Debians Alsa. I am trying to get audio out from card4.0 http://pastie.org/9840291 |
| 14:39.09 | mtn | hikenboot: are you actually in a chroot or are you running debian in virtualbox? |
| 14:39.22 | folivora | I tried with my laptop and it works just fine. |
| 14:39.31 | hikenboot | no i built chroot then i made a live cd to boot in virtualbox |
| 14:39.59 | mtn | hikenboot: I don't see the connection between vbox and a chroot |
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| 14:40.28 | hikenboot | sudo mksquashfs chroot image/live/filesystem.squashfs -e boot |
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| 14:41.18 | folivora | kernel siis the correct device http://pastie.org/9840296 . Also I have tried to produce sound out from 4.0 via mplayer ect |
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| 14:42.28 | verodeb | how can i check if loopback adapter (lo) is added to the "interfaces" |
| 14:42.30 | verodeb | ? |
| 14:42.30 | folivora | mplayer -ao alsa:device=hw=4.0 test192.flac |
| 14:42.40 | hikenboot | just curious how do i download glibc , I would execute yum downgrade glibc glibc-devel glibc-common glibc-headers in centos |
| 14:42.42 | verodeb | because when i ping on localhost there is no response |
| 14:42.51 | folivora | :~# ifconfig lo |
| 14:43.04 | mtn | hikenboot: downgrading is not supported in debian |
| 14:43.15 | folivora | verodeb: or ethtool lo |
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| 14:43.33 | folivora | Do you use iptables ? If so do you have a rule for loopack devicve |
| 14:43.34 | verodeb | ifconfig says Link encap:Local Loopback |
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| 14:44.24 | folivora | verodeb: something like: iptables -A INPUT -i lo -j ACCEPT |
| 14:44.55 | folivora | that should allow traffic on loopack, it is quite necessary to have a rule for lo if you are using iptables |
| 14:45.05 | verodeb | hmm |
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| 14:45.52 | verodeb | how can i list iptables rules for localhost? |
| 14:46.01 | evilman_work | verodeb: iptables-save |
| 14:46.01 | folivora | sudo iptables -L -v |
| 14:46.24 | folivora | -v if you want to have a littbe bit more information |
| 14:46.33 | evilman_work | iptables -L doesn't show all rules, only rules in the filter table. |
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| 14:47.30 | jelly | and silly iptables-save only shows ipv4 ! |
| 14:47.51 | folivora | hjehe |
| 14:47.58 | folivora | first world problems |
| 14:48.24 | evilman_work | there isn't any perfect in this world. |
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| 14:49.00 | folivora | yep |
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| 14:49.46 | verodeb | but if there was a rule on the iptables side to reject localhost |
| 14:49.47 | hikenboot | I think what i will have to do then is rebuild chroot, this time I will take jessie full version to start with rather than minimal...anyone able to tell me what this is refered to as when building chroot, and can I select what is considered a stable snapshot of jessie somehow? |
| 14:49.52 | verodeb | the response of ping |
| 14:50.02 | verodeb | should be connection refused right? |
| 14:50.40 | evilman_work | verodeb: system is rejecting the connection to closed ports. |
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| 14:50.55 | hikenboot | alternatively I could select the stable version and install a newer kernel. I need support of windows dynamic disks which is why i started with jessie in the first place |
| 14:51.08 | verodeb | evilman_work: when i call ping localhost |
| 14:51.21 | verodeb | it displays |
| 14:51.22 | verodeb | PING localhost.localdomain (127.0.0.1) 56(84) bytes of data. |
| 14:51.26 | verodeb | and nothing more |
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| 14:51.28 | verodeb | hangs there |
| 14:51.38 | verodeb | should it be due to iptables |
| 14:51.40 | verodeb | rules? |
| 14:51.41 | evilman_work | verodeb: ip -s -s l ls dev lo |
| 14:51.58 | verodeb | what the command do? |
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| 14:52.21 | evilman_work | verodeb: list information and statistics about loopback interface. |
| 14:52.32 | evilman_work | verodeb: check the state - should be UP |
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| 14:53.05 | evilman_work | and nonzero counters. |
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| 14:53.52 | verodeb | evilman_work: this is the response |
| 14:53.53 | verodeb | http://paste.debian.net/141230/ |
| 14:56.27 | evilman_work | verodeb: seems like ok. show 'iptables-save -c' and 'sysctl -a | grep \.lo\.|icmp' |
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| 15:04.14 | verodeb | evilman_work: this is iptables-save -c |
| 15:04.15 | verodeb | http://paste.debian.net/141233/ |
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| 15:05.10 | verodeb | and this is sysctl -a.. => http://paste.debian.net/141234/ |
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| 15:05.38 | evilman_work | verodeb: first paste isn't 'iptables-save -c' output. |
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| 15:28.23 | lolek | hi guys, I've got a question, dpkg --get-selection, list installed packages, but I'm trying to find out debug packages ... how to list them? |
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| 15:30.03 | fraff | off topic, anyone knows a C lib that would read a file and return a array of array ? |
| 15:30.19 | lolek | ok, forgot my question :] |
| 15:30.31 | lolek | *forget |
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| 15:33.41 | bw_ | fraff: sounds like ~10 lines of C with errorhandling |
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| 15:57.24 | fraff | bw_: yes, where are they ? :) |
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| 16:06.32 | srg | I have this laptop that uses "Intel HD Graphics 3000". I have `xserver-xorg-video-intel` installed. It seems to work fine, but when I do anything even remotely resource intensive (such as viewing http://map.ipviking.com ) my CPU goes to 100% and it gets super laggy. |
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| 16:06.45 | srg | So I suspect I'm still missing something for the graphics. OpenGL maybe? |
| 16:07.03 | srg | It does this with things that are not browser-related either, such as simple desktop games. |
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| 16:07.20 | srg | My WM is E. |
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| 16:20.17 | valdez_ | im running gnome classic\debian wheezy is there a way to adjust contrast\gamma\etc. I tried running gnome-color-manager but maybe its only for gnome3 |
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| 16:25.31 | galba | hi, I'm using cryptsetup to ask for a passord at initrd, how do I change the screen resolution at that stage? |
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| 16:29.14 | frostschutz | galba, what do you mean by "change screen resolution"? more text in the console is one thing, a graphical password prompt quite another |
| 16:31.02 | galba | frostschutz: I'd like my text size larger when initrd prompts me for a passwd |
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| 16:31.24 | galba | my screen is a 13" at 3200x1600 :) |
| 16:31.57 | cisco987 | wow!! |
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| 16:32.25 | frostschutz | galba, larger? a higher res will make it smaller... maybe this would work? https://wiki.debian.org/plymouth |
| 16:32.55 | tremon | galba: that's a good question, and I don't think there's a universal solution for you. what graphics card/driver are you using? |
| 16:32.58 | galba | yea, I meant lower res |
| 16:33.05 | frostschutz | unless your screen doesn't upscale small res |
| 16:33.35 | frostschutz | galba, you could just try vga=ask and see what it gives you |
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| 16:34.06 | frostschutz | .oO(if vga=ask still exists) |
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| 16:35.14 | galba | I already have grub set the right res at 640x480 but then it reverts to 3200 when initrd kicks in |
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| 16:36.27 | galba | tremon: intel 5000 |
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| 16:37.59 | ghormoon | hi, is it possible to make pon (pppd) ask for password instead of having it in config file? |
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| 16:38.42 | petn-randall | ghormoon: Why? |
| 16:38.54 | ghormoon | so I don't have to put password in config file? |
| 16:39.26 | ghormoon | I'm using it as pptp client |
| 16:39.53 | ChrisH | ghormoon: if you are using PPTP why do do you consider about password security? |
| 16:40.30 | ghormoon | why make it worse when I don't have to? I'll be using this link rarely |
| 16:40.40 | petn-randall | ghormoon: I mean, what do you want to achieve by it? Are you worried that the file is read by someone else? Or do you want to improve the user's typing skills? You only want to allow some users to connect, and others not? |
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| 16:41.47 | ghormoon | just in case someone manages to snap my machine and extract key for the HDD somehow, they can't read the config file :) I want myself to be forced to write the pass, not anyone else :) |
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| 16:42.08 | ghormoon | I just have sometimes to connect to one network which doesn't have openvpn, only pptp |
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| 16:42.26 | ghormoon | and in time I'm not connected, I don't wanna have password on the disk |
| 16:42.41 | petn-randall | ghormoon: If they have root they can simply capture your keystrokes. |
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| 16:43.42 | tremon | galba: iirc, there was a video= kernel command line option introduced with kms; it had a specific syntax that I can't seem to find right now, and was not supported by all drivers. But I have no idea which drivers the newer intel gfx are using |
| 16:43.45 | ghormoon | I know, but it's still one less attack vector, if I'd follow that idea, I wouldn't encrypt my drive because they can use rubber hose cryptography anyway. |
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| 16:44.20 | petn-randall | ghormoon: Far more likely case is that someone steals your laptop. In that case it still helps. |
| 16:44.29 | ghormoon | the point is, that I'll be writing the password rarely, few times a year, it doesn't have to lie on the drive all the time |
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| 16:45.14 | ghormoon | that's it, it's still likely someone will steal it running than stealing it running, putting in keylogger, waiting for that password |
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| 16:45.28 | ghormoon | so not having it on disk still helps :) |
| 16:46.03 | ChrisH | I would like to have my laptop connect via VPN in case it is stolen, so I could track it down. And worst case I revoke the systems certificate |
| 16:46.35 | tomodachi | ChrisH: so basically you want your laptop thief to have access to your internal network? :) |
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| 16:46.48 | tomodachi | ChrisH: i would do it differently using the concept of a command & contrl server or something |
| 16:47.08 | tomodachi | basically having a script polling your server every x hours for a config file of some kind containing commands to run |
| 16:47.37 | tomodachi | so when it gets stolen you just put in some lock encrpytion / format drive , or whatever commands |
| 16:47.47 | tomodachi | over ssl and auth and whatnot , but no need for vpn then really |
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| 16:48.08 | tremon | galba: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Kernel_mode_setting, the section above "disabling modesetting". No guarantees that it will work though |
| 16:48.56 | ghormoon | tomodachi: well he can block all connections except some sort of echo and then ssh to it, but still bad idea :) |
| 16:49.22 | ChrisH | tomodachi: I might be no exact enough. But having attempts to connect would narrow down the place to get the thief...I trust in dm-crypt |
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| 16:51.02 | tremon | galba: http://git.kernel.org/cgit/linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux.git/tree/Documentation/fb/modedb.txt, straight from source. It says "the DRM drivers also support this", even though the documentation is for framebuffer drivers |
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| 16:53.09 | tomodachi | well there is no guarantee he wont format the entire thing before connecting it to the internet anyway. Also you can have some expire time, if the scrip has internet access *icmp* for x amount of time but no connection to your server format the drive! *i would keep backups in handy just in case your script bacfires on you* |
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| 16:54.32 | ghormoon | tomodachi: maybe better just encrypt whole drive and give up remote control :) average thug won't be breaking aes at home :) |
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| 16:55.07 | ghormoon | or you can have honeypot OS witch the remote control next to it |
| 16:55.10 | tomodachi | ghormoon: yup i think so to , but he specifically wanted some kind of remote access to it when stolen |
| 16:55.11 | ghormoon | *with |
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| 16:56.01 | ghormoon | by default grub will boot unencrypted, more or less clean OS, with the remomte control tool, another entry will be for real OS, fully encrypted |
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| 17:06.04 | leberle | hi guys! newbie question :( ...how can i find out the pgp key for http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian/ for use in apt? |
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| 17:06.26 | abrotman | leberle: apt-key |
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| 17:24.14 | LordDeath | https://wiki.debian.org/Teams/MySQL/MariaDB <-- according to this switching from MySQL 5.5 to MariaDB 5.5 should raise no issues |
| 17:24.25 | LordDeath | what about MySQL 5.5 to MariaDB 10? |
| 17:24.47 | LordDeath | because jessie is already on 10: https://packages.debian.org/jessie/mariadb-server |
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| 17:27.55 | Luke-Jr | anyone know what the default password is for USB Armory running Debian? |
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| 17:29.14 | nkuttler | Luke-Jr: debian doesn't have a default password.. how was it installed? |
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| 17:29.46 | Luke-Jr | nkuttler: just dd'd the image to the microSD |
| 17:30.02 | nkuttler | Luke-Jr: a working os image? |
| 17:30.08 | nkuttler | e.g. not the installer? |
| 17:30.33 | Luke-Jr | right |
| 17:30.57 | Luke-Jr | http://dev.inversepath.com/download/usbarmory/usbarmory-debian_wheezy-base_image-20150109.raw.xz |
| 17:30.58 | nkuttler | Luke-Jr: you should ask whoever provided it, or the docs it came with |
| 17:31.09 | Luke-Jr | aha, the dir says it :D |
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| 17:34.43 | guest09876 | Hi, I'm trying to install debian with debootstrap, but all the mirrors I'm trying are failing with `W: parser_rfc822: Iek! Don't find end of field, it seems to be after the end of the line!' |
| 17:34.45 | Luke-Jr | bleh, it doesn't work |
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| 17:38.55 | nkuttler | Luke-Jr: do you have a bootloader so that you can edit boot parameters? |
| 17:39.26 | Luke-Jr | nkuttler: dunno, I just moved the uSD back to the BBB, chroot'd, and ran passwd :D |
| 17:39.36 | nkuttler | or that ;) |
| 17:39.58 | Luke-Jr | this thing feels awful slow :x |
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| 17:40.40 | wytrzeszcz | hey i have problem witch Canon MG6350 Printer driver from aur don't work and i try install rpm from producent site and i too don't work |
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| 17:45.35 | abrotman | from aur? |
| 17:45.55 | wytrzeszcz | arch... |
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| 17:48.03 | bOSKE | wytrzeszcz, e mail maintainer of the aur package to fix it u cant install rpm on arch |
| 17:48.14 | abrotman | wytrzeszcz: What does this ave to do with Debian? |
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| 17:49.56 | jhutchins | !arch |
| 17:49.56 | dpkg | rumour has it, arch is a hardware architecture (i386, amd64, armel, mips, mipsel, sparc, powerpc, alpha, hppa, s390 && ia64). Also a source control revision system (GNU arch). Arch (and its twin brother ArX) resides at http://arch.fifthvision.net/, or http://www.linuxjournal.com/article.php?sid=5928, or #arch Since lenny, /bin/arch has disappeared, use "uname -m" instead, or <architecture>, or <arch linux>. |
| 17:52.51 | wytrzeszcz | cant write to #archlinux |
| 17:52.58 | CHVNX | Register. |
| 17:53.14 | CHVNX | Register an account with Freenode. |
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| 17:58.28 | meow271 | i have a problem: i cant install kvm |
| 17:58.48 | jhutchins | meow271: What did you try to do? How did you try to do it? What did you expect to happen? What happened instead? |
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| 17:59.43 | meow271 | jhutchins: nvm apt just fixed itself. It didnt have dependencies filled, but for some reason doing a 2nd apt-get update fixed it even though I didnt change anything |
| 17:59.47 | meow271 | sorry for the false alarm QQ |
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| 18:06.09 | BadCodSmell | How can I get squid to work properly with mod_negotiate to jump from Packages to Packages.gz? |
| 18:06.25 | BadCodSmell | Even deb-apt-squid is broken with this |
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| 18:15.22 | guest54387 | anybody have debian installed on their android? |
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| 18:16.47 | RDash | guest54387, ERRORIST WIN |
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| 18:17.18 | guest54387 | there's this thing called debiankit that looks interesting, but I'm wondering if I can also boot that install from my laptop after it's installed.. |
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| 18:17.23 | guest54387 | RDash, what |
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| 18:17.48 | RDash | guest54387, ERRORIST WIN |
| 18:18.09 | guest54387 | ... i catch your CS reference buut I'm not understanding.. |
| 18:18.23 | RDash | it is not a CS reference |
| 18:18.32 | balin | I'm trying to install from a stable cd image on a USB disc using a serial connection. The image seems to boot, but I end up with "| + - | | | | Undefined video mode number: 314 Press <ENTER> to see video modes available, <SPACE> to continue, or wait 30 sec". Hot to fix the video mode? |
| 18:19.24 | guest54387 | RDash, oh.. seemed like one. |
| 18:19.43 | RDash | guest54387, bit blurry but: http://blog.goodosphere.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/errorist-e1385314062646.jpg |
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| 18:21.15 | cdb23ax | hello, i have troubles with my postfix & dovecot mail server |
| 18:21.36 | cdb23ax | iam able to send mails out through gmail relay but iam unable to receive any |
| 18:21.48 | cdb23ax | no errors in /var/logs/mail.log |
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| 18:22.09 | cdb23ax | i dont have a ptr record does it have anything to do with? |
| 18:22.19 | RDash | cdb23ax, have you tried switching it on and off? |
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| 18:22.35 | cdb23ax | u mean like /etc/init.d/postfix restart |
| 18:22.47 | RDash | cdb23ax, are all the cables connected? |
| 18:23.09 | cdb23ax | its a vm so yes all its connected port 25 smtp inbound forwarded |
| 18:23.18 | cdb23ax | not forwareded i mean enabled at firewall |
| 18:23.22 | jelly | RDash: please be nice, if you don't have anything constructive to add, keep quiet |
| 18:23.41 | RDash | jelly, I was about to ask if he could provide ´more´ info |
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| 18:24.00 | RDash | Cause with that info I could only come up with that... |
| 18:24.02 | jelly | cdb23ax: which domain is this about? |
| 18:24.03 | cdb23ax | i can even telnet on port 25 to my mailserver |
| 18:24.09 | cdb23ax | piccgathers.net |
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| 18:24.49 | jelly | cdb23ax: is 92.222.77.81 the right IP for your inbound mail server? |
| 18:24.56 | cdb23ax | yes it is |
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| 18:26.16 | jelly | cdb23ax: do you have a working left side of an email address on that domain to test receiving? |
| 18:26.41 | cdb23ax | u mean like admin@piccgathers.net to test@piccgathers.net |
| 18:26.51 | cdb23ax | inside the domain it works |
| 18:26.58 | CeBe | hi, trying to install debian wheezy 7.8 from CD |
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| 18:27.13 | CeBe | installer fails after fetching apt packages |
| 18:27.26 | CeBe | is there any way to get more details about the error? |
| 18:27.32 | cdb23ax | i have tested this with mozilla thunderbird |
| 18:27.42 | RDash | CeBe, are you behind a proxy or did you entered a domain were it is not connected to? |
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| 18:28.01 | CeBe | RDash: I am not behind a proxy |
| 18:28.09 | RDash | CeBe, did you entered any? |
| 18:28.10 | CeBe | not sure what you mean with the domain |
| 18:28.13 | CeBe | nope |
| 18:28.17 | RDash | did you entered a domain some were? |
| 18:28.24 | CeBe | yes |
| 18:28.40 | CeBe | but that should not matter as it is the local network |
| 18:28.51 | jelly | cdb23ax: alright, let's see |
| 18:29.06 | RDash | CeBe, what domain did you entered? |
| 18:29.18 | CeBe | fritz.box, was filled in by default |
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| 18:29.20 | RDash | Cause it should be empty in most cases |
| 18:29.24 | RDash | ah |
| 18:29.31 | RDash | try removing the domain |
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| 18:29.35 | CeBe | k |
| 18:29.44 | jelly | cdb23ax: did you get a message? |
| 18:29.58 | cdb23ax | This is a test mailing |
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| 18:30.00 | cdb23ax | yepp |
| 18:30.09 | jelly | cdb23ax: receiving works, then |
| 18:30.31 | jelly | at least for the test@... address |
| 18:31.00 | CeBe | RDash: running the steps again, will see if it works in a few minutes, thanks for the help so far |
| 18:31.11 | CeBe | is there a way to get more detailed error messages in the instaler? |
| 18:31.17 | CeBe | in general |
| 18:31.25 | RDash | CeBe, np friend of mine had the same problem with fritzbox till he removed it :) |
| 18:31.37 | RDash | CeBe, you can hit CTRL + ALT + F1 and check the logs |
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| 18:31.53 | cdb23ax | whats wrong now? |
| 18:31.58 | cdb23ax | yesterday it didnt work |
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| 18:32.11 | cdb23ax | now it even works from my hotmail.com account |
| 18:32.28 | cdb23ax | jelly have you done anything? :D |
| 18:32.46 | jelly | wiggles the magic fingers |
| 18:32.53 | CeBe | RDash: ctrl+alt+F1 is the installer itself, ctrl+alt+F3 shows something but it does not look related... |
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| 18:33.10 | RDash | CeBe, sorry I do not reinstall that much xD |
| 18:33.19 | RDash | simply DD back an old image |
| 18:33.20 | RDash | done |
| 18:33.21 | RDash | :D |
| 18:33.40 | jelly | cdb23ax: it's likely the MX record didn't propagate and was too new yesterday |
| 18:33.41 | RDash | \o/ Another lawsuit of my ex |
| 18:33.47 | CeBe | RDash: will prepare one for next time, this is taking too long here :-D |
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| 18:33.58 | RDash | CeBe, it downloads now? :) |
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| 18:34.04 | CeBe | oh well, now the F3 console shows some errors with the disk :-/ |
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| 18:34.18 | zenpac | Wht server is debian-next on? |
| 18:34.22 | RDash | CeBe, my dedicated server has a bad superblock for almost 6 years ^^ |
| 18:34.34 | RDash | But still works perfectly :D |
| 18:34.39 | centrx | zenpac, irc.oftc.net |
| 18:34.42 | CeBe | RDash: I mean the CD disk |
| 18:34.57 | RDash | CeBe, CD? |
| 18:35.08 | CeBe | can I disable the CD as APT source and switch to netinstall from the normal CD? |
| 18:35.39 | RDash | CeBe, simply finish your install and do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get distupgrade |
| 18:35.41 | CeBe | RDash: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_disc ;) |
| 18:35.57 | CeBe | RDash: k, will try that |
| 18:36.14 | RDash | I do not own a CD/DVD/Blueray player since USB Sticks came out :D |
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| 18:36.33 | RDash | Their so usefull ^^ |
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| 18:36.50 | beepie | for blacklist modules in jessie, is the directory now /etc/modules-load.d ? |
| 18:36.52 | cdb23ax | jelly thank you for your help |
| 18:37.21 | jelly | cheers! |
| 18:37.48 | CeBe | well, now installation is done, grub is installed but it can not find an operating system :-/ |
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| 18:38.18 | jelly | cdb23ax: you might ask the provider to make a PTR record for that address point back to "mail.piccgathers.net" if you plan to send mail directly from that machine |
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| 18:38.43 | cdb23ax | jelly thanks for info but provider blocked outbound 25 tcp |
| 18:39.08 | jelly | oh... you didn't switch to a saner one |
| 18:39.27 | cdb23ax | well in fact its not my decission because i dont pay for the server |
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| 18:47.12 | RDash | CeBe, did you installed to the propper boot device? |
| 18:47.23 | RDash | CeBe, some people install it to their wrong device ^^ |
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| 18:49.40 | aeiou__ | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:49.43 | three_legs | Where are the logs for gnome shell extentions |
| 18:49.47 | CeBe | RDash: I only have one device so there is not much I could have been doing wrong I guess :) |
| 18:49.57 | CeBe | /dev/sda |
| 18:50.03 | three_legs | and is it possible that i could have been spoofed into downloading a malicious shell extention |
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| 18:53.29 | elb | aeiou__: how does the netcat listening port show up in 'netstat -an' ? |
| 18:53.38 | elb | (look for a line that says LISTEN |
| 18:53.40 | elb | ) |
| 18:53.40 | tremon | three_legs: that's always possible, I guess. Better to ask in #gnome, more chance of a direct answer there (we tend to know about the debian packages here, but beyond that...) |
| 18:53.51 | elb | hang on, 2yo calling :-/ |
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| 18:54.44 | aeiou__ | The port doesn't show up at all.... |
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| 18:54.58 | aeiou__ | I run to test: echo "<html><body><h1>h1"| nc -l 8080 |
| 18:55.32 | aeiou__ | on a different terminal: netstat -an |grep 8080 no results |
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| 18:58.04 | Iridos | aeiou__, there's two netcats... alternative system leads to them, they are called nc.openbsd and nc.traditional |
| 18:59.12 | aeiou__ | ah |
| 18:59.17 | Iridos | not sure what the exact difference between the two, but I think nc.traditional requires you to do nc -l -p 8080 |
| 18:59.22 | aeiou__ | Yes, on the two machines thers are different |
| 18:59.24 | Iridos | while nc.openbsd does not |
| 18:59.40 | aeiou__ | I guess that's it. |
| 19:01.09 | aeiou__ | Yes, that was it |
| 19:01.14 | Iridos | ^^ |
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| 19:03.32 | Absolute0 | How do you disable a service from starting up automatically nowadays? update-rc.d disable XYZ gives me a deprecated warning. |
| 19:03.53 | Iridos | on wheezy? |
| 19:04.00 | towo` | systemctl disable service |
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| 19:04.13 | Absolute0 | Debian 7 |
| 19:04.39 | Absolute0 | bash: systemctl: command not found |
| 19:04.49 | Absolute0 | sysctl? |
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| 19:04.59 | towo` | in debian 7 update-rc.d is not deprecated |
| 19:05.05 | Iridos | on wheezy update-rc.d should be fine |
| 19:05.14 | petn-randall | I use sysv-rc-conf for that. |
| 19:05.18 | Absolute0 | The disable|enable API is not stable and might change in the future. |
| 19:05.26 | Absolute0 | quote/unquote |
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| 19:05.48 | Iridos | ah, I see it |
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| 19:06.26 | Absolute0 | what does ? mean in status-all ? |
| 19:06.30 | Absolute0 | "unknown"? |
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| 19:16.24 | UltimateNate | Why is my directory broken? |
| 19:16.30 | UltimateNate | Like commands ifconfig are gone |
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| 19:21.15 | ProstheticS | is it gone, or is path just broken nate |
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| 19:21.39 | ProstheticS | usually lives in /sbin/ifconfig |
| 19:21.54 | ProstheticS | try running the full path and see |
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| 19:39.43 | Sayuri-ue | http://pastebin.com/5hBL8baq |
| 19:39.45 | Sayuri-ue | enjoy |
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| 19:40.24 | thedoor | guys, i flush my iptables rules but it still blocking my connections |
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| 19:40.34 | thedoor | the iptables -L show no rules |
| 19:41.27 | Bitcho | iptables -F |
| 19:41.30 | kyle__ | thedoor: iptables-save |
| 19:42.02 | thedoor | just iptables-save? |
| 19:42.25 | kyle__ | thedoor: It gives you better output (IMO), but run it to see if there are, in fact, any rules sitting around. |
| 19:43.29 | kyle__ | thedoor: I have had firewall boxes up for long periods of time, that eventually needed a reboot to get all the rules cleared. It's not a day to day type issue, but not out of the ordanary either. |
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| 19:45.21 | kyle__ | How do you get initramfs to run vgchange after assembling mdadm arrays? |
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| 19:46.32 | thedoor | tks kyle__ |
| 19:47.00 | kyle__ | My box has been dist-upgraded for a while now, and somewhere along the way, lost the mdadm assemble and lvm rescan. dpkg-reconfigure mdadm made it at least assemble the raid automatically, but I still need to run vgchange -ay each boot, from initramfs, then exit, for it to finish booting. |
| 19:47.01 | cdb23ax | hello its me again, i have another problem with postfix gmail relaying |
| 19:48.07 | cdb23ax | when i send an email to someone@hotmail.com then it shows piccgathers@gmail.com as sender not my original address test@piccgathers.net. is there a workaround for it? |
| 19:48.16 | Brigo | kyle__, did you try to rebuild the initramfs ? |
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| 19:49.09 | kyle__ | Brigo: I never triggered it manually, but I know it does it automatically on dist-upgrade sometimes. And I think it did it when I dpkg-reconfigured mdadm |
| 19:49.19 | kyle__ | ... think. |
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| 19:50.51 | jelly | cdb23ax: https://www.google.com/search?q=gmail+alternate+mail+identities |
| 19:51.00 | thedoor | I found it kyle__ ¬¬ |
| 19:51.11 | thedoor | My VPS lost the ip configuration on the interface ¬¬ |
| 19:51.29 | thedoor | lol, it was not a firewall problem, it's a stupid admin problem :P |
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| 19:53.56 | kyle__ | thedoor: Don't sweat it. I spent hours the other day trying to figure out a firewall problem....that was really me just mis-reading the output of ip route, not realizing there was no default route among the dozen static ones I had :) |
| 19:54.23 | thedoor | =) |
| 19:54.55 | cdb23ax | jelly thank you for the quick response :) |
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| 19:56.34 | jelly | cdb23ax: I've only tried this for addresses where I already forward to gmail. Not sure whether it will work for your setup |
| 19:56.37 | testi | I'm a bit confused on how to run taskd on debian. After installing task and taskwarrior I don't have the command taskd. But taskwarrior.org refers to that command. |
| 19:56.51 | testi | Any clues what to do next? |
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| 19:57.06 | jelly | testi: how did you install this taskd? |
| 19:57.22 | mosez | where can i find cd isos for debian 8? |
| 19:57.36 | testi | jelly: apt-get install taskwarrior task |
| 19:58.05 | cdb23ax | jelly: yes it worked thank you very much |
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| 19:59.17 | jelly | testi: I don't see any taskwarrior package in debian stable, and package "task" doesn't seem to contain taskd binary |
| 19:59.27 | jelly | judd: file bin/taskd |
| 19:59.32 | judd | No packages in wheezy/i386 were found with that file. |
| 19:59.37 | jelly | judd: file bin/taskd --release sid |
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| 19:59.44 | judd | No packages in sid/i386 were found with that file. |
| 20:00.05 | testi | jelly: I'm sorry I forgot to mention I'm not using stable, I'm using jessie |
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| 20:00.30 | mtn | mosez: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianTesting |
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| 20:03.45 | mosez | mtn: thx |
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| 20:04.44 | mosez | hum... is rc1 not finally done or why is https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ referencing to beta2? |
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| 20:05.26 | Brigo | mosez, debian 8 is not released, yet. |
| 20:06.07 | mosez | brigo: i know... but http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/ got alpha1, beta1, beta2 and rc1. while https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ links to beta2 |
| 20:06.27 | jelly | mosez: these images are "beta" and "rc" for the installer code, not the distro. |
| 20:06.32 | mosez | i want to create a vagrant image for playing around with it |
| 20:07.14 | mtn | mosez: the link I sent you tells you how to install testing |
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| 20:09.38 | mosez | i will give both methods a try. thanks |
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| 20:09.49 | sentor | hi |
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| 20:10.10 | evernub | i accidentally bought the 3rd edition copy of unix and system admins handbook published sep 3 2000. how outdated is this lol |
| 20:11.30 | sentor | wie sollte man sein /tmp/ Verzeichnis haben, extra Partition, normal mit im FIlesysetem, als tmpfs, ... ? |
| 20:12.00 | jelly | !de |
| 20:12.00 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
| 20:13.10 | sentor | sry |
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| 20:13.53 | hikenboot | hi i have created 4 scripts 2 to build mount chroot and 2 to clean up after exiting. I think I have missed something because it doesnt seem to exit properly. Anyone able to take a look http://paste.debian.net/141285/ and let me know if they see any mistakes? |
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| 20:15.28 | Brigo | hikenboot, why those scripts? you can use lxc, for example. |
| 20:16.12 | jelly | hikenboot: what do the exit scripts output? |
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| 20:17.25 | Posterdati | hi |
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| 20:17.48 | Posterdati | please how can I make arpwatch continuosly check for new macaddress on the net? Thanks |
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| 20:18.41 | hikenboot | for one the exit script clean-script1.sh does not actually exit the chroot even thought it has an exit in it. I think it exits the script instead of exit chroot |
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| 20:19.39 | acz32 | does anyone know how to fix a problem with i must enter "rfkill unblock wifi" every time i boot into my system? where would it be set as blocked by default? |
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| 20:20.00 | hikenboot | I am not trying to create a virtual machine Brigo, trying to build a live cd without using live build. |
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| 20:20.28 | hikenboot | I just enter and exit the chroot many times for testing, trying to automate the process |
| 20:21.01 | jelly | hikenboot: which debian release (both main OS and chroots)? What's wrong with live-build? |
| 20:21.30 | jelly | hikenboot: also grml-chroot is nice |
| 20:21.44 | hikenboot | debian stable for build debian (wheezy) testing (jessie) for chroot |
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| 20:23.15 | asterismo | hi people |
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| 20:25.36 | asterismo | need to uncompress a .zd file |
| 20:25.46 | asterismo | it's the OLPC flashing image format, but cannot uncompress it natively in debian linux |
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| 20:30.15 | hikenboot | jelly where is the config file for grml-deboostrap? |
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| 20:32.25 | hikenboot | never mind found it for some reason it didnt come up in my locate index |
| 20:32.31 | Brigo | acz32, bios, may be |
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| 20:33.04 | Brigo | hikenboot, check lxc too, it is for containers (aka chroots env) |
| 20:33.41 | jelly | hikenboot: I don't remember, ask in #grml channel? |
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| 20:37.04 | lru | running debian testing here, and my mouse stops working after a while |
| 20:37.31 | lru | where should I look for logs? |
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| 20:38.03 | lru | keyboard still works, mouse doesn't click, sometimes I see the cursor, sometimes not... currently menus in metacity don't work either, not even with keyboard |
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| 20:39.11 | lru | I don't see anything obvious in /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 20:39.57 | mtn | lru: usb mouse? |
| 20:40.39 | lru | mtn: yep |
| 20:40.59 | mtn | lru: try other usb ports and make sure battery is ok, too |
| 20:41.12 | lru | no battery in this mouse... trying other ports |
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| 20:42.07 | hikenboot | grml doesnt appear to support testing (jessie) |
| 20:42.08 | lru | mtn: no difference.... |
| 20:42.27 | mtn | lru: used to work ok? |
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| 20:42.47 | lru | mtn: yes... but with a few months old version of testing... I hadn't upgraded in a while |
| 20:43.02 | lru | this is since the upgrade |
| 20:43.16 | mtn | lru: so it could be changes from the updates. you could try the #debian-next channel on irc.oftc.net |
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| 20:43.40 | lru | ahh, thanks :-) |
| 20:44.32 | capin | hello, im trying to use mutt with a Maildir format for my inbox, however when i open mutt, it states that /home/<user>/Maildir/ is not an inbox. anyone here run into this? |
| 20:44.40 | mtn | lru: did you do a dist-upgrade when you upgraded? |
| 20:45.06 | lru | mtn: I did an upgrade, then dist-upgrade, yes |
| 20:45.15 | mtn | lru: ok |
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| 21:00.04 | Iridos | how do you see the chances that I can do pm-hibernate, then plug in a new sata-disk and the boot into a fresh kernel and pretend the disk was hot-plugged? |
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| 21:09.30 | tremon | Iridos: that part has a pretty good chance of succeeding. Your next step will fail |
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| 21:10.11 | tremon | being less cryptic, you cannot resume a suspended linux with a different kernel |
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| 21:22.10 | paulk-collins | hey there |
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| 21:22.51 | paulk-collins | I'm using systemd with rsyslog and it keeps spamming the ssh and serial shells |
| 21:22.56 | paulk-collins | how can I prevent that behavior? |
| 21:23.09 | paulk-collins | (with basically everything from syslog) |
| 21:23.56 | Brigo | paulk-collins, systemd spams ssh and serial shells? |
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| 21:25.01 | paulk-collins | Brigo, systemd or rsyslogd |
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| 21:25.31 | Brigo | i think i am not understanding you, sorry. |
| 21:25.46 | paulk-collins | my rsyslogd: http://paste.debian.net/141295/ |
| 21:26.17 | paulk-collins | Brigo, I get "Message from syslogd@gagarine at Jan 19 22:21:50" every time something is written to syslog.log |
| 21:26.24 | paulk-collins | with the message |
| 21:26.27 | paulk-collins | it's unbereable |
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| 21:27.04 | Brigo | i see, weird. I can see why |
| 21:27.16 | Brigo | did you change the configuration of journald? |
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| 21:27.44 | paulk-collins | Brigo, only the configuration of rsyslogd |
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| 21:27.51 | teraflops | paulk-collins: what version of systemd so you have? |
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| 21:27.54 | paulk-collins | when setting it back to debian defaults, it goes away |
| 21:27.55 | teraflops | do* |
| 21:27.58 | Brigo | paulk-collins, are you using jessie and systemd? |
| 21:28.00 | paulk-collins | teraflops, the one in jessie |
| 21:28.01 | paulk-collins | yes |
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| 21:28.22 | teraflops | paulk-collins: I dont know what one is on jessie |
| 21:28.43 | Brigo | may be you are using syslogd and rsyslogd? |
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| 21:29.10 | paulk-collins | only /lib/systemd/systemd-journald and rsyslogd |
| 21:30.18 | teraflops | paulk-collins: if you use >=216 just use ForwardToSyslog=no because rsyslog and syslog-ng pull the messages to the journal itself |
| 21:30.34 | teraflops | since 3.6 ... |
| 21:30.55 | paulk-collins | okay |
| 21:30.56 | paulk-collins | thanks |
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| 21:39.30 | Nik05 | hello, anyone an idea how i get other programs than xterm to recognise changes i made to the compose key? |
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| 21:49.12 | Posterdati | hu |
| 21:49.14 | Posterdati | hi |
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| 21:49.48 | Lis | guess what. debian testing works without flaws with uefi |
| 21:49.55 | Lis | even recognizes my lan |
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| 21:50.20 | Posterdati | is anyone able to configure arpwatch on debian? |
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| 21:54.15 | lru | when switching workspaces in gnome with the keyboard, the big grey box comes up, showing me that I've switched to a higher or lower one... is there any way to disable that? |
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| 21:58.44 | Brigo | lru, may be from gnome-tweak-tool |
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| 22:00.53 | arcsky | if i want to remote desktop to my debian machine from windows. what solutions do i have ? vnc best? |
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| 22:01.07 | lru | Brigo: I looked, but either I missed it or it's not there :-) |
| 22:01.14 | abrotman | arcsky: VNC or RDP |
| 22:01.31 | arcsky | xrdp ? |
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| 22:03.09 | Brigo | arcsky, vlc |
| 22:03.22 | Brigo | anry, sorry, vnc, i meant |
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| 22:03.34 | abrotman | arcsky: they both work, each have their issues |
| 22:03.35 | arcsky | ist better than xdrp? |
| 22:03.45 | arcsky | ok |
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| 22:06.03 | brentaarnold | Using google-chrome-stable I can't stream YouTube videos once my sound output is changed between HDMI and Analog. |
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| 22:06.28 | brentaarnold | Even though the actual changing of the outputs works flawlessly |
| 22:06.39 | brentaarnold | The video will load and not play |
| 22:06.50 | brentaarnold | Or will play for five to six seconds and hang |
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| 22:09.29 | Lis | one question |
| 22:09.47 | Lis | will the default installation of debian overwrite the windows uefi boot loader? |
| 22:10.08 | brentaarnold | I believe so |
| 22:10.12 | brentaarnold | You will get grub |
| 22:10.13 | brentaarnold | I think |
| 22:10.59 | Lis | well i press enter and see what happens i guess |
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| 22:13.19 | Lis | another faszinating thing was, arch linux booted out of the box. i have a look into that distribution is looks great and small |
| 22:13.24 | Lis | someone tried it already? |
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| 22:15.18 | abrotman | Lis: this is #debian, not #archlinux |
| 22:15.31 | Lis | it was a short question. no need to be cruel |
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| 22:25.46 | cybrNaut | arcsky: over the wan, vnc is quite poor because x11 is very fat. OTOH, xrdp is painful to setup (i've struggled for a couple days and gave up) |
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| 22:27.37 | elb | vnc isn't painful because X11 is fat |
| 22:27.55 | elb | vnc doesnt' see most of the "fatness" of X11, it only deals with the final framebuffer |
| 22:28.27 | elb | cybrNaut: I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish (I don't see it in the immediate scrollback), but you might want to look at xpra |
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| 22:30.48 | Lis | brentaarnold, no debian does not touch the efi boot files |
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| 22:32.01 | Lis | damn i love this system so much. it build with good practice |
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| 22:32.26 | cybrNaut | elb: i appreciate the reference to xpra.. will check it out |
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| 22:38.54 | bbtech | Anyone have a tip for how to tell the difference between multiple google chrome profiles when looking at the tab on the xfce panel? |
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| 22:40.58 | TheAtomicGoose | jesse |
| 22:41.05 | TheAtomicGoose | i'm sorry |
| 22:41.10 | TheAtomicGoose | wrong keyboard |
| 22:41.12 | TheAtomicGoose | my bad |
| 22:41.26 | jeezy | :o |
| 22:41.55 | TheAtomicGoose | i have two keyboards right next to each other and i spaced out :P |
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| 22:43.19 | rebauld | TheAtomicGoose: whut? no thought control input device? are you still on squeeze or something? |
| 22:44.12 | TheAtomicGoose | rebauld: i know it's horrible |
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| 22:48.16 | arcsky | elb: cybrNaut its on LAN only |
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| 22:49.51 | elb | straight X11 over LAN (tunneled through SSH, even) is pretty snappy |
| 22:49.59 | elb | it's not as fast now that fd.o has got hold of it as it used to be |
| 22:50.03 | elb | but still quite usable |
| 22:50.08 | elb | though I'm not really sure what the topic is :-) |
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| 22:55.40 | retroispresto | is the IPv4 and IPv6 capability in the hardware or software? |
| 22:56.09 | abrotman | on your machine? |
| 22:56.15 | retroispresto | yea |
| 22:56.19 | abrotman | the software |
| 22:56.23 | retroispresto | okay |
| 22:56.31 | abrotman | retroispresto: why? |
| 22:56.45 | retroispresto | i don't want to have to get a new computer |
| 22:56.46 | retroispresto | :c |
| 22:57.04 | retroispresto | is debian going to be rupping 32 bit support anytime soon? |
| 22:57.08 | abrotman | rupping? |
| 22:57.11 | retroispresto | *dropping |
| 22:57.18 | abrotman | Doubtful, many people still use it |
| 22:57.22 | abrotman | !popcon |
| 22:57.22 | dpkg | rumour has it, popcon is the Debian Popularity contest, the basis for what packages appear on the first few CDs/DVDs etc (by rank). Install the popularity-contest package to participate. See the results at http://popcon.debian.org/ -- See the FAQ at http://popcon.debian.org/FAQ . Statistics are also available via IRC, /msg judd popcon $package |
| 22:59.15 | retroispresto | thanks! |
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| 23:02.11 | retroispresto | my first day of school for 2015 is the 28th |
| 23:02.12 | retroispresto | :c |
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| 23:02.57 | retroispresto | my school uses windows wireless networks, would i still be able to connect with debian? |
| 23:03.20 | retroispresto | they also have a proxy |
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| 23:05.02 | DERPOPELMANN | Hey |
| 23:05.23 | DERPOPELMANN | I NEED HELP HELP HELP !!!!! |
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| 23:07.22 | ntz | !ask |
| 23:07.22 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 23:13.25 | DERPOPELMANN | ntz, dpkg please HELP ! |
| 23:14.51 | ntz | it is not question :D |
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| 23:15.30 | ntz | even as a statement it has low-to-none informational value |
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| 23:16.59 | ntz | !de @ DERPOPELMANN |
| 23:17.04 | ntz | !de |
| 23:17.04 | dpkg | Deutschsprachige Hilfe bekommt ihr in #debian.de (auf irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net oder irc.belwue.de) - German speaking users please go to #debian.de (on irc.oftc.net, irc.freenode.net or irc.belwue.de). |
| 23:17.26 | DERPOPELMANN | german? |
| 23:17.32 | DERPOPELMANN | no english!!! |
| 23:17.50 | DERPOPELMANN | I want to ask for a virtual server |
| 23:17.56 | abrotman | DERPOPELMANN: Do you need help with Debian? |
| 23:18.01 | ntz | so do it .. c'mon |
| 23:18.02 | DERPOPELMANN | can sb tell me when jessie comes? |
| 23:18.08 | abrotman | no, no one knows. |
| 23:18.20 | abrotman | There is no schedule. It will release when it has 0 RC bugs |
| 23:18.54 | ntz | throws wild shot: q3 2017 |
| 23:18.59 | abrotman | ntz: please don't do that |
| 23:19.02 | abrotman | it doesn't help |
| 23:19.12 | ntz | sorry :D .. it was attempt for a joke |
| 23:19.24 | DERPOPELMANN | 0 bugs ????????? |
| 23:19.25 | abrotman | SDNWOTN |
| 23:19.29 | DERPOPELMANN | it was never released if 0 |
| 23:19.30 | abrotman | DERPOPELMANN: That's not what I said |
| 23:19.38 | DERPOPELMANN | Alwys 100 or more |
| 23:19.48 | DERPOPELMANN | Always |
| 23:19.48 | buu | ntz: In certain circles we like to say "christmas" |
| 23:20.05 | DERPOPELMANN | my neighbour said it comes DEFINETLY before FOSDEM! |
| 23:20.16 | DERPOPELMANN | he has a truth sourcew |
| 23:20.16 | abrotman | DERPOPELMANN: Do you need anything else? |
| 23:20.17 | DERPOPELMANN | source |
| 23:21.34 | DERPOPELMANN | ok thanx ntz |
| 23:21.38 | DERPOPELMANN | but 2017 is very late |
| 23:21.59 | abrotman | DERPOPELMANN: Do you need anything else? |
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| 23:22.20 | abrotman | DERPOPELMANN: ntz is making things up unfortunately, he has zero insight into when Jessie will release |
| 23:22.20 | DERPOPELMANN | no thanxxx |
| 23:22.24 | DERPOPELMANN | ah ok |
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| 23:22.31 | abrotman | ntz: that's why you don't make shit up .. |
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| 23:22.56 | DERPOPELMANN | But anyway one question |
| 23:23.09 | DERPOPELMANN | is it verified that it won't be released before Q3 2017? |
| 23:23.16 | abrotman | no, I just said that |
| 23:23.17 | DERPOPELMANN | and does wheezy have longer support then? |
| 23:23.31 | abrotman | ntz was lying |
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| 23:23.33 | justanotheruser | anyone here use terminator? I keep having this problem where it broadcasts my typings into all tabs without my configuring it to do so. It does it seemingly randomly too. |
| 23:23.35 | DERPOPELMANN | ahhhh |
| 23:23.42 | DERPOPELMANN | it was a joke okay. |
| 23:23.45 | justanotheruser | I end up with my text editor full of the stuff I typed on IRC. |
| 23:24.47 | ntz | my big apologize to the World of Debian⢠.... it was joke and I hope that this one innocent joke won't bring me to the eternal flames |
| 23:25.21 | HicksD_ | it'll be on slashdot and reddit soon and then the media will pick up onthe delay and...:) |
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| 23:25.37 | abrotman | ntz: It's just that it causes problems, gets lots in translation, etc |
| 23:25.41 | ntz | I'll send my lawyers on them if they do so .. I have all logs |
| 23:25.52 | abrotman | lost in translation |
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| 23:30.44 | ntz | anyhow, I'm now in the front of big decision: should my laziness win and I'll learn to make .deb packages and generally make our stack working on debian (initial plan B) or should I not be lazy and reinstall all servers I've got to already obsolete el6 (initial plan A) .. |
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| 23:31.09 | ntz | I'm deadly serious |
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| 23:32.02 | OSVG | What are the servers on currently? |
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| 23:32.36 | sshock | anyone had trouble with Samba no longer authenticating users after upgrading from squeeze to wheezy ? |
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| 23:33.21 | ntz | Bunch of various servers at various places .. Personally I'm el6 guy but my colleague left the company and I took over all his servers (or better seid our team got all servers of this abadoned team) .. it's relatively lot .. |
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| 23:35.18 | OSVG | ntz: Are you as comfortable with Debian as you are with RHEL? Also, why EL6 rather than 7? |
| 23:35.43 | ntz | hehe, I'm more comfortable with debian than with el7 however it's perhaps questionable :D |
| 23:36.11 | ntz | OSVG: i don't like systemd and I refuse it to use in el7 way in production (yet) |
| 23:36.41 | ntz | for example I'd use it in SLE way - ohh, but it would be still hurting me |
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| 23:38.28 | Codmadnesspro | How can I run sudo add-apt-repository ppa:deluge-team/ppa on my raspberry pi? |
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| 23:38.36 | ntz | anyhow, I'm already since 1.1 with all those debian servers, it will the most likely end up with that my laziness wins and I'll pet debians until they die peacufylly |
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| 23:39.06 | abrotman | Codmadnesspro: On Debian? not a good idea |
| 23:39.23 | OSVG | Well then your options are Wheezy or EL6, though you may want to become more familiar/comfortable with systemd either way. If your packages are relatively straightforward, building .debs is not really any more complicated than building .rpms. I would suggest Wheezy since you'll be able to backport to extend your useful obsolesence period. |
| 23:39.41 | ntz | OSVG: 6.0.10 on the most of places |
| 23:39.46 | ntz | that's not that bad |
| 23:40.05 | abrotman | .debs is way easier than RPMs IMIO |
| 23:40.07 | abrotman | IMO |
| 23:40.27 | OSVG | abrotman: Generally speaking, I won't disagree. |
| 23:40.48 | ntz | I can't tell since I made maybe four or five debs in my life .. aaand the last one was 15 years ago :D |
| 23:41.09 | Codmadnesspro | abrot i cant |
| 23:41.18 | Codmadnesspro | im trying t follow http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1433783 |
| 23:41.24 | abrotman | Those aren't for Debian |
| 23:41.30 | Codmadnesspro | but ubuntu is debian |
| 23:41.33 | abrotman | Codmadnesspro: What OS are you using? |
| 23:41.35 | Codmadnesspro | Sort off... |
| 23:41.37 | ntz | not really |
| 23:41.38 | Codmadnesspro | Wheezy debian |
| 23:41.43 | abrotman | No, ubuntu is not Debian, and Ubuntu is not supported here |
| 23:42.00 | abrotman | Codmadnesspro: you can do anything you want, but I doubt those packages would work. I wouldn't reocmmend doing that |
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| 23:42.07 | elb | I dunno, I've made a lot of packages, and I prefer Debian over RH/Fedora these days, but I think RH packages are a lot easier to maintain |
| 23:42.09 | ntz | Codmadnesspro: it might work but it may lead to unpredictable unstability and possible security holes |
| 23:42.21 | abrotman | deluge is in Debian |
| 23:42.23 | dob1 | he is talking about raspberry, the package will not run on it |
| 23:42.24 | Codmadnesspro | I don't really care since its local |
| 23:42.48 | Codmadnesspro | dob1 it does run but i have to plug in it |
| 23:42.50 | ntz | dob1: sure, I'm talking about mixing ubu builds and deb builds (for hatever platform) |
| 23:42.53 | Codmadnesspro | to monirot |
| 23:42.57 | ntz | **whatever |
| 23:43.14 | abrotman | Codmadnesspro: then go for it, you don't need our approval |
| 23:43.25 | abrotman | dob1: he knows what he's doing! |
| 23:43.31 | dob1 | anyway it is for ubuntu as ntz says, maybe try to compile it from souce, it is a better idea than this |
| 23:43.38 | dob1 | *source |
| 23:43.43 | Codmadnesspro | but I need an alternative to it as it says add-apt-repository: command not found |
| 23:44.10 | abrotman | Codmadnesspro: deluge is in Debian |
| 23:44.17 | abrotman | Why do you need different packages? |
| 23:44.25 | ntz | definitely, you should build it instead if it is not avalilable in debian repos for your arch |
| 23:44.44 | abrotman | It is! |
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| 23:45.26 | HicksD_ | Codmadnesspro: run aptitude as root, hit \ to search and type deluge and you'll get a few options |
| 23:45.57 | abrotman | or just aptitude install deluge and be done with it |
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| 23:54.54 | Codmadnesspro | abrit i need latest deluge that why i need packages |
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| 23:56.23 | abrotman | Codmadnesspro: There are none |
| 23:56.23 | dob1 | Codmadnesspro, compile it from souce, what you are doing doens't work |
| 23:56.37 | dob1 | ops *source |
| 23:57.31 | HicksD_ | you could do a backport just for yourself, all the deps deluge needs are already in wheezy |
| 23:57.52 | ntz | https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=names&keywords=deluge |
| 23:58.02 | ntz | should work, it's on the top of python |
| 23:58.25 | ntz | architecture == All |
| 23:58.31 | ntz | aka noarch |
| 23:58.42 | Codmadnesspro | kk |
| 23:58.58 | Codmadnesspro | so is ubuntu same as debian since most commands are the same? |
| 23:59.04 | dob1 | pygtk |
| 23:59.06 | ntz | no |
| 23:59.10 | Codmadnesspro | like apt-get install is the same |
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| 23:59.48 | ntz | Codmadnesspro: http://dev.deluge-torrent.org/wiki/Installing/Source |
| 23:59.58 | Codmadnesspro | since i learnt ubuntu commands i was able to use the same in debian so i thought it might be same |
