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| 00:00.34 | nkuttler | xreal: there's #debian-live @ oftc |
| 00:00.45 | xreal | nkuttler: ok. |
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| 00:03.40 | Seldon75 | Hi, I just installed Debian 7 with 'Web Server' option checked. It seems that Apache2 is installed but there's no apxs binary? my dpkg is here: http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=WS2QPnwH can anyone tell me what I'm missing? |
| 00:04.32 | abrotman | Seldon75: apache2-dev |
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| 00:08.58 | Seldon75 | thanks abrotman |
| 00:10.15 | Seldon75 | if I get "E: Unable to locate package apache2-dev" does it mean I have to fix my sources? |
| 00:10.29 | temhaa | I want ask another question about log rotation about tomcat log rotation |
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| 00:11.10 | temhaa | tomcat access log rotation do itself. but my access log is very big (dailiy 6-7gb) I want compress automatically |
| 00:11.16 | abrotman | judd: versions apache2-dev |
| 00:11.17 | judd | Package: apache2-dev on i386 -- sid: 2.4.10-9; jessie: 2.4.10-9 |
| 00:11.20 | abrotman | oh |
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| 00:11.29 | abrotman | judd: file bin/apxs --release wheezy |
| 00:11.31 | Seldon75 | it's ok |
| 00:11.33 | judd | No packages in wheezy/i386 were found with that file. |
| 00:11.35 | Seldon75 | apparently I need apache2-threaded-dev |
| 00:11.39 | abrotman | close enough |
| 00:11.46 | Seldon75 | yes indeed |
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| 00:18.32 | Maxdamantus | Hmm.. I did an `apt-get upgrade` a while ago on armel, which apparently resulting in upgrading libc6 2.13-38+deb7u1 to 2.19-13, which doesn't support kernels as old as the one I normally use. |
| 00:18.42 | Maxdamantus | resulted* |
| 00:19.12 | Maxdamantus | is there some solution for this? |
| 00:19.24 | Maxdamantus | (other than upgrading the kernel) |
| 00:20.09 | Maxdamantus | I normally run stuff from it while running my phone's OS, which currently only supports 2.6.28. |
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| 00:23.24 | jaggzt | any of you get skype working? |
| 00:23.59 | abrotman | there's a wiki page about it |
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| 00:25.29 | systemerror | there is no such reader #0 pcsc sees only 0 reader(s) |
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| 00:27.09 | Maxdamantus | it seems to be because I had jessie (alongside wheezy) in my sources. |
| 00:27.26 | temhaa | anyone know log compress? |
| 00:27.26 | Maxdamantus | libc6 for wheezy is still 2.13-38+deb7u1 |
| 00:27.35 | abrotman | Maxdamantus: that's how you break things |
| 00:27.37 | Maxdamantus | oh, u6 |
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| 00:27.42 | abrotman | temhaa: eh .. what? |
| 00:28.15 | temhaa | abrotman: I asked before. I repeat; tomcat access log rotation do itself. but my access log is very big (dailiy 6-7gb) I want compress automatically |
| 00:28.30 | abrotman | dpkg: tell temhaa about logrotate |
| 00:30.06 | temhaa | abrotman: Im new in tomcat. tomcat rotate logs itself. But If I use logrotate. logrotate will do rotate too. I want just one configuration |
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| 00:30.40 | abrotman | temhaa: logrotate can be told what to rotate |
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| 00:31.05 | Maxdamantus | Mk, I think I know what to do. |
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| 00:32.34 | temhaa | abrotman: Can I apply like that: https://unixserveradmin.wordpress.com/2012/01/17/how-to-rotate-tomcat-logs/ |
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| 00:38.07 | tensorpudding | I haven't seen a movie in theaters since 2011. Should I go see The Theory of Everything? |
| 00:39.08 | tensorpudding | Oh whoops, wrong channel. How did I get here. |
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| 00:56.52 | xreal | Sorry for asking here, but #debian-live is kind of dead. When using ip=frommedia in boot parameters, my system hangs some seconds for "starting enchanced syslog" - why? When giving the IP directly, everything works very quick... |
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| 01:15.20 | xreal | Where can I get a list of boot options? |
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| 01:29.24 | OptimizedCoder | On debian-testing, not sure what's going wrong - I'm trying to run audit2allow - and it always fails with "unable to open (null): Bad address". It did work fine the first time though.. so I'm puzzled |
| 01:30.55 | OptimizedCoder | On running an strace for 'audit2allow -v -a', it seems to get more clearer : http://www.hastebin.com/oqaqagecex.coffee |
| 01:31.20 | OptimizedCoder | Why's it even trying to access this: /etc/selinux/default/policy/policy.-1? |
| 01:31.46 | OptimizedCoder | And how did it work fine on audit2allow's very first invocation? |
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| 01:37.12 | OptimizedCoder | Yikes.. on further deep-dive, it looks like the pdefault policies : https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/selinux-policy-default - this package is not even avble on testing :( |
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| 01:37.34 | OptimizedCoder | IS that the reason? It still doesn't answer how it worked the first time.. |
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| 02:00.56 | Seldon75 | I doubt anyone here has any experience with Cosign, but here we go. I'm trying to set up a Cosignd server following this method: http://webservices.itcs.umich.edu/mediawiki/cosign/index.php/cosign_wiki:Test_install_HOWTO and I get to the end of the section titled "Certificates Generation" where it tells me to run a test command (s_client -connect cosignd.local:6663). But apache (nor anything) isnt configured to listen on port 666 |
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| 02:01.14 | Seldon75 | pect it to? |
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| 02:06.03 | Seldon75 | 6663 rather |
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| 02:08.39 | Eryn_1983_FL | hi peeps |
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| 02:12.53 | decci | Hello |
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| 02:15.09 | decci | I am using Dell blade server to install Debian 7.8.0. I was having sd cards plus PERC controller installed in hardware. While I did initial installation it abrupted in the middle. No idea what went wrong. But while I am trying to install again, it detects the PERC RAID controller disk as /dev/sdb and not /dev/sda due to which it throws error "the grub-pc package is missing soon |
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| 02:15.28 | decci | Now while I remove PERC RAID controller card it installs in text mode |
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| 02:15.37 | Eryn_1983_FL | i got two servers with like 8 tb of data, and i need to move it to a room, that is not going to be cooled properly |
| 02:15.45 | decci | the grub-pc package failed to install into /target/ |
| 02:15.49 | bigterd | besides fsck/32fsck/badblocks, does ext4 have anything for online checksumming of data itself? like zfs/scrub? |
| 02:16.25 | decci | I removed SD card and tried installing again, this time it just detected RAID controller as /dev/sdb |
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| 02:35.52 | decci | openipmi depends on libc6 (>= 2.14); however: Version of libc6:amd64 on system is 2.13-38+deb7u6. |
| 02:36.16 | decci | I checked https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/openipmi but dont see anything libc6 > - 2.14 |
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| 02:37.51 | abrotman | decci: what are your sources.list ? |
| 02:37.58 | themill | decci: that would be because the openimpi packages in wheezy wouldn't have that dependency -- the packaege you have there is not designed for wheezy |
| 02:38.18 | decci | abrotman: To my bad, I cant connect to external network |
| 02:38.50 | m0rd3cai | \ |
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| 02:41.46 | decci | abrotman: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9800843/ |
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| 02:42.15 | _overflow_ | Hi I forced to install a package to avoid dependencies version .. but now I can't install any app with aptitude without uninstall the forced package. I did the hold for those packages but still the same problem |
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| 02:42.27 | decci | abrotman: http://paste.ubuntu.com/9800844/ |
| 02:42.52 | decci | abrotman: If I can get libc6 (>= 2.14) fixed |
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| 02:43.41 | decci | abrotman: I wonder if I can solve this through cdrom itself |
| 02:44.03 | abrotman | judd: versions openipmi |
| 02:44.04 | judd | Package: openipmi on i386 -- squeeze: 2.0.16-1.2; wheezy: 2.0.16-1.3; sid: 2.0.16-1.4; jessie: 2.0.16-1.4 |
| 02:44.25 | abrotman | decci: oddly, you can't just download packages meant for another version of Debian and install them wherever you'd like |
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| 02:44.52 | decci | abrotman: This package is built for wheezy |
| 02:45.27 | dvs | decci: No, it's built for sid |
| 02:45.39 | decci | dvs: deb7 is wheezy right |
| 02:45.51 | decci | dvs: What made u think so? |
| 02:45.57 | dvs | decci: 2.0.16-1.3 is for wheez |
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| 02:53.49 | Spec | Hi. Today I set up bridged networking with libvirt, setting up a br0 interface according to http://wiki.libvirt.org/page/Networking#Debian.2FUbuntu_Bridging and it was working fine. Some time later my host lost connectivity, but I could still talk to the VM |
| 02:54.19 | Spec | So, I found out it lost its default route. I double checked and 'gateway' is set in /etc/network/interfaces, but it appears it is not picked up upon a restart of networking |
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| 02:57.34 | _overflow_ | Hey there... any help? I forced a package installation to avoid dependencies version check, but now I can't installing anything with aptitude without uninstall the forced pacakge first.. I did hold the packages but no success |
| 02:58.28 | abrotman | right, fix those dependencies |
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| 03:34.07 | okee | does anyone have a recommendation for a Base64 decoder? I have some emails from people that didn't get properly decoded, and I really need access to them. |
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| 03:36.07 | abrotman | okee: apt-cache search mime or base64 .. you sohuld get a hit on one of those |
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| 03:36.46 | okee | abrotman> I have already done that, but not sure which option if any is suitable. Are you familiar with any of these programs? |
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| 06:09.13 | decci | Hi |
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| 06:10.09 | decci | I installed debian 7.8.0 graphical mode and able to configure network through gui |
| 06:10.24 | decci | Now I installed it another machine and that's text mode |
| 06:10.56 | decci | I can see the interface but how to enable it |
| 06:11.09 | decci | I have entries under interface file |
| 06:11.58 | rnair | have you configured the interfaces file? |
| 06:12.32 | rnair | "/etc/network/interfaces" |
| 06:13.03 | decci | Yes |
| 06:13.10 | decci | I |
| 06:13.31 | decci | If I run ifconfig -a it shows me just lo interface |
| 06:13.55 | decci | But if I run with -a option it shows me eth0 and eth1 |
| 06:14.14 | decci | <PROTECTED> |
| 06:14.23 | decci | But for text mode, no idea |
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| 06:14.38 | decci | Ifup eth0 says device already present |
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| 06:19.04 | decci | rnair: any idea |
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| 06:24.37 | Sebastian | hello guys |
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| 06:24.58 | rnair | decci: its coz the interface is not configured |
| 06:25.27 | rnair | you need to configure the interfaces via /etc/network/interfaces |
| 06:25.38 | decci | mair: I have provided the static ip during the installation |
| 06:25.49 | decci | And that sits on interface file |
| 06:25.58 | rnair | cool |
| 06:26.16 | rnair | have you started the networking service? |
| 06:26.36 | decci | Yes |
| 06:26.52 | rnair | hmmn |
| 06:27.03 | rnair | what does ifup eth0 say? |
| 06:27.20 | decci | One more question - did you face issue related to grub-pc package missing |
| 06:27.25 | rnair | I beleve it detects your network interface as eth0 |
| 06:27.27 | decci | During the installation |
| 06:27.40 | rnair | no |
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| 06:28.19 | decci | I am facing it during the installation |
| 06:28.46 | decci | I skipped it and installation went fiber |
| 06:28.48 | decci | Fine |
| 06:29.05 | decci | But unable to boot from hard disk |
| 06:29.14 | decci | Does it require different dvd |
| 06:29.21 | rnair | loks like the grub is not installed |
| 06:29.25 | rnair | looks* |
| 06:29.25 | decci | It was working for all other machine |
| 06:29.31 | decci | I am using dv1 |
| 06:29.41 | decci | Dvd1 |
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| 06:29.59 | decci | I am frustrated |
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| 06:30.43 | decci | The grub-pc is searching for dev/sda |
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| 06:31.51 | rnair | grub-pc should elxist in CD/DVD |
| 06:31.55 | rnair | exist |
| 06:32.09 | rnair | exist* |
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| 06:32.43 | rnair | are you using debian repo for installation? |
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| 06:34.09 | sandman13 | how does Debian avoid the use of "eval `ssh-agent`" while using ssh? |
| 06:34.35 | rnair | decci: bdw is ur networking issue fixed? |
| 06:34.44 | dondelelcaro | sandman13: why would it ever do that? |
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| 06:35.26 | sandman13 | dondelelcaro: I used wrong term there |
| 06:35.51 | dondelelcaro | sandman13: you start ssh-agent early in a login shell (or however you want to do it), export it to a file, and source it whenever you need the pid and sock |
| 06:36.31 | sandman13 | dondelelcaro: where is the config located? I have checked bash.bashrc and profile on /etc |
| 06:37.44 | dondelelcaro | sandman13: if you start X, it's generally started by gdm or whatever you're using to login |
| 06:38.25 | sandman13 | dondelelcaro: I use KDM that means I have to look for KDM's config? |
| 06:38.36 | dondelelcaro | yes |
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| 06:39.56 | sandman13 | I will try that dondelelcaro. I am trying to achieve the same thing with my Arch box |
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| 07:16.52 | ychaouche | Hello |
| 07:17.16 | ychaouche | I have written an initd script and need some help figuring out why it doesn't create any pid file in /var/run/. |
| 07:17.37 | ychaouche | making the status not working |
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| 07:17.46 | ychaouche | Here's the script : https://gist.githubusercontent.com/ychaouche/3d4478724a4f71e5e307/raw/89e20bcd06844a6791beb5ce76b1a26fe70d3b38/gistfile1.txt |
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| 07:18.21 | nkuttler | ychaouche: put a set -x at the top |
| 07:18.43 | ychaouche | ok |
| 07:18.48 | ychaouche | that's to trace the calls right ? |
| 07:19.05 | ychaouche | yes |
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| 07:21.47 | pfote | ychaouche: your server.py has to write the pid file |
| 07:22.15 | ychaouche | pfote: oh I thought the inittools took care of that. |
| 07:23.11 | pfote | nope |
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| 07:45.08 | n3ss | so |
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| 07:45.13 | n3ss | is it possible for eth0 to come up automatically |
| 07:45.20 | SirLagz | yes |
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| 07:46.02 | n3ss | evidently i'm too tired to put the right google search together |
| 07:46.08 | accumulator | in what context? |
| 07:46.22 | n3ss | auto eth0 (new line) iface eth0 inet manual... |
| 07:46.43 | n3ss | upon reboot eth0 does not come up. |
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| 07:46.59 | accumulator | I guess that should be "iface eth0 inet dhcp" |
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| 07:47.24 | n3ss | it needs to have a static IP |
| 07:47.36 | SirLagz | n3ss: use inet static ? |
| 07:48.24 | accumulator | it's described here : https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration |
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| 07:49.47 | n3ss | ahh static /manual |
| 07:49.52 | n3ss | idk where i got manual lol |
| 07:49.53 | n3ss | thanks |
| 07:49.59 | n3ss | i guess it's time to sleep |
| 07:50.05 | SirLagz | n3ss: manual is useful for some things |
| 07:50.10 | SirLagz | not so much for eth0 though |
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| 07:52.08 | accumulator | alternatively you can set the eth0 connection to 'system connection' in your NetworkManager applet if you use a graphical desktop on that system |
| 07:53.10 | accumulator | then you dont have to edit /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 08:38.57 | sand3r | llhi |
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| 08:39.16 | sand3r | how do i full disk encrypt my debian linux? |
| 08:39.30 | XATRIX | cryptosetup |
| 08:39.36 | XATRIX | + lvm |
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| 08:41.44 | sand3r | XATRIX: so should i not use luks? |
| 08:42.10 | XATRIX | cryptosetup is LUKS block device management |
| 08:42.36 | sand3r | XATRIX: could you help me with fdk? |
| 08:42.46 | XATRIX | fdk ? |
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| 08:43.21 | sand3r | XATRIX: fdk= full disk encryption |
| 08:43.25 | sand3r | fde |
| 08:43.26 | sand3r | sry |
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| 08:46.33 | pfote | assuming i have a eth0 with a private ip, and a eth0:1 with a public. in order to have a default gw using the public ip, would i "up ip route change default ...." or "up ip route add default ..." in /etc/network/interfaces for eth0:1? |
| 08:46.44 | jeezy | sydney: how ya been? |
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| 08:48.45 | Llamaluther | RELEASE THE HOUNDS |
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| 08:48.56 | Llamaluther | x0999188285237467136172462783647892346 |
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| 08:51.17 | Iridos | sand3r, the installer asks you for encryption |
| 08:51.38 | Iridos | yay, he surely read that in the split-second before he quit |
| 08:51.48 | Iridos | good to see that one's effort doesn't get wasted or so |
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| 08:53.44 | Naphatul | if i install jessie today, what changes would i need to make when it goes stable? |
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| 08:56.53 | accumulator | Naphatul: make sure you have jessie in apt.sources, not testing |
| 08:56.55 | babilen | Naphatul: Update |
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| 09:14.43 | xreal | Where can I get a list of boot options? |
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| 09:18.41 | nabblet | !paste |
| 09:18.42 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 09:55.19 | ychaouche | what's the 0 signal ? |
| 09:55.19 | ychaouche | I can see kill -0 in a system shell script |
| 09:55.19 | ychaouche | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:56.08 | mjt | it is not a signal. it is a way to check if the given process is still running without actually killing it. man kill |
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| 10:15.17 | nkuttler | can somebody think of a reason why i couldn't boot the installer onto an existing partition? and boot it from there? i can use another grub if necessary to boot it |
| 10:15.26 | nkuttler | haven't tried it yet, just wondering |
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| 10:16.07 | nkuttler | s#boot#dd# |
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| 10:16.33 | nkuttler | i guess the installer image has a mbr.. and that could be a problem? |
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| 11:32.12 | jelly | !qotd0 |
| 11:32.13 | dpkg | <WiFiTux> Is there a way I could make Doom 3 run faster? I mean, can I run it in a tty, or somewhere else? |
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| 11:39.57 | anddam | https://wiki.debian.org/DebianIPv6 says " Also be sure to add extra lines for other network interfaces you want to disable IPv6." about disabling IPv6 |
| 11:40.49 | anddam | why are there interface-specific lines since there are net.ipv6.conf.default and net.ipv6.conf.all that seem to act as wildcards? |
| 11:41.06 | anddam | I mean why having net.ipv6.conf.lo and .eth0 at all |
| 11:42.08 | petn-randall | anddam: default and all are different things. |
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| 11:44.01 | anddam | I figured, but the point of my question was that between those two there really seems to be no need to have if-specific lines |
| 11:44.23 | anddam | also why is this apt-get command failing? https://gist.github.com/anddam/69c12e41f92fd102505f |
| 11:44.30 | anddam | I followed ssb factoid |
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| 11:48.24 | fraff | anddam: maybe because of this: Unmet build dependencies: dpkg-dev (>= 1.17.11) python2.7 (>= 2.7.8-5) |
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| 11:49.25 | anddam | shouldn't build-dep have taken care of dpkg-dev? |
| 11:49.34 | anddam | also I am building python2.7 |
| 11:49.46 | anddam | oh I see, maybe I have to build python2.7 not python |
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| 11:50.11 | anddam | nice, now the unmet dependencies are many more |
| 11:50.36 | anddam | should I backport all those dependencies first? |
| 11:50.42 | anddam | I mean is that how it's supposed to be done? |
| 11:50.43 | themill | anddam: backporting python isn't going to work out. What are you trying to do? |
| 11:51.02 | anddam | themill: backporting python, actually |
| 11:51.06 | anddam | rather than moving to testing |
| 11:51.08 | themill | why? |
| 11:51.17 | EmleyMoor | anddam: What is your reason for wanting to? |
| 11:51.31 | anddam | I have some issues with 2.7.3 and some python packages |
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| 11:51.59 | anddam | a syntax I use on 2.7.8 (and 2.7.9) doesn't work correctly on 2.7.3 with the same library version |
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| 11:52.12 | themill | there are no syntax differences |
| 11:52.13 | anddam | i.e. nested generator expressions with SQLAlchemy filter() |
| 11:52.37 | anddam | in the language no, but on 2.7.3 SQLAlchemy has issues with the generator expressions |
| 11:52.52 | anddam | while on 2.7.8 (that I use for developing) it doesn't |
| 11:52.55 | themill | Ah, API differences perhaps. sqla is like that |
| 11:53.22 | anddam | the issue is just syntactical, i.e. if I create an explicit iterable rather than using the generator expression it works just finex |
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| 11:53.50 | anddam | but that limits the elegance and expressivity of the code |
| 11:54.03 | anddam | so I'd like to move the interpreter to 2.7.8 |
| 11:54.13 | anddam | I thought backporting was the easiest shot |
| 11:54.18 | anddam | it's a Wheezy btw |
| 11:54.39 | anddam | but since I have """dpkg-checkbuilddeps: Unmet build dependencies: dpkg-dev (>= 1.17.11) gcc (>= 4:4.9.2-1~) quilt libreadline-dev libtinfo-dev libncursesw5-dev (>= 5.3) gcc-4.9 (>= 4.9.2-7) tk-dev blt-dev (>= 2.4z) libbluetooth-dev libsqlite3-dev libffi-dev (>= 3.0.5) libdb-dev (<< 1:6.0) libgdbm-dev python:any help2man xvfb python-sphinx""" |
| 11:54.54 | anddam | I see I'd either backport a lot of stuff or just move to testing |
| 11:55.02 | anddam | is that correct? |
| 11:56.30 | themill | packages aren't always backportable and python interpreters generally aren't |
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| 11:57.45 | anddam | so that leaves moving to testing, that I heard has already frozen |
| 11:57.52 | anddam | right? |
| 11:58.07 | themill | yeah, moving to jessie now is a reasonable prospect |
| 11:58.44 | anddam | how can I purge the packages installed with "build-dep python"? |
| 11:59.11 | themill | manually from your logs or terminal history |
| 11:59.32 | boinloc | you may want to chroot testing just for that python stuff, keeping the wheezy base |
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| 12:00.24 | anddam | themill: isn't there a way to tell apt "remove dependency of python"? |
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| 12:00.49 | anddam | or to list packages installed and not directly requested? |
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| 12:01.04 | anddam | in this case I have the terminal log since I'm in tmux but I'm asking as future reference |
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| 12:02.15 | anddam | boinloc: this is a host with little resources, how much space would chrooting python in testing roughly take? |
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| 12:02.56 | hikenboot | has nginx been added to jessie? |
| 12:03.30 | Iridos | dpkg, tell anddam about autoremove |
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| 12:03.46 | nkuttler | ,v nginx-full |
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| 12:04.28 | themill | build-deps are manually installed and not autoremovable. If you wanted to be able to do that, then you use mk-build-deps |
| 12:04.29 | hikenboot | ok next question then the http://wiki.nginx.org/InitScripts site shows no package for jessie |
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| 12:04.58 | anddam | thanks |
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| 12:09.44 | themill | hikenboot: given that init scripts tend to be very distro specific, why would you expect that? |
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| 12:27.52 | hikenboot | because the provide other releases for other versions of debian |
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| 12:42.32 | sai_ | Hello Everyone, I am a newbie and is interested to contribute to Debian project through gsoc , I have got good command over 'c' & 'DS' and knows a little of building debian package ,Can anyone help me by making me aware How can I contribute to Debian? |
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| 12:45.17 | sai_ | Can someone help me ? |
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| 12:48.23 | err404 | sai_, please be patient |
| 12:48.53 | sai_ | ok |
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| 12:51.29 | ksk | sai_: Id think there are guids on it. you can always take package xy and see if you find bugs, coding style violations and fix them |
| 12:51.41 | SPF | sai_: https://www.debian.org/devel/join/ , https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ , https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/ |
| 12:51.42 | ksk | you would need some programming experience then Id say |
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| 12:55.15 | PrimalHunter | Hi! I'm a bit lost, maybe someone could give me a nudge in the right direction? Some things generate system-mails and I already forward those from root to another user on the system. Is there a way to additionally send an e-mail to an external host? |
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| 12:55.40 | hikenboot | it appears my debian kernel does not have module support from a autofs dpkg error i am getting, how do i confirm? |
| 12:57.15 | sai_ | ksk and SPF Thanks, how to fix the bugs if I know how to build a package |
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| 13:02.44 | thomas_cloud_ | heyho I got a rather huge package list and I want to split it into a few sorted lists (not sort sorted) depending on what dependencies they have.So for instance I got a huge pack of kde packages which all use qt so they could be sorted to qt deps.I didn't really find any elegant solution for this, is there one for this awkward specific problem? |
| 13:04.21 | petn-randall | thomas_cloud_: What package lists are we talking about? .deb packages come with their own dependencies, no need to track them yourself. What are you trying to do? |
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| 13:05.32 | thomas_cloud_ | oh I use fai to automaticly install a few machines at work and I want to sort the packages into more intelligent classes (right now I sorted it by hand but there are more and more packages that come) |
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| 13:06.03 | thomas_cloud_ | so it's just a list of packages I get from the normal debian repositories |
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| 13:07.25 | petn-randall | thomas_cloud_: I don't understand for what purpose you're sorting them at all. Can you explain? |
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| 13:11.10 | petn-randall | thomas_cloud_: So why do you have several classes in the first place? Do you have several desktop machine with different flavours of desktop environments installed? |
| 13:11.25 | thomas_cloud_ | petn-randall: different reasons really.To more easily be able to solve package conflicts,customize different systems,debugging,... I really got a bunch of reasons |
| 13:14.20 | thomas_cloud_ | I don't really expect there to be a already set/easy solution, just thought asking is free ;) |
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| 13:18.06 | petn-randall | thomas_cloud_: In that case I don't have an easy solution for you, but I think you should define those classes more along the lines of "what do they do?" and not "what dependencies do they have in common?". In the end it's just the tasks that matter, dependencies are just a minor detail. |
| 13:18.34 | jelly | well, to get to a solution, it helps to have a defined goal |
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| 13:20.03 | sydney | jeezy: Hello!!! |
| 13:20.10 | jeezy | hey!!! |
| 13:20.17 | jeezy | how the heck are ya? |
| 13:20.19 | sydney | I have to go now :( |
| 13:20.24 | sydney | Good :) |
| 13:20.52 | jeezy | ah nice; and ok :) |
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| 13:31.56 | sebastianlutter | I try to create a "growing" container file like this: https://www.debian-administration.org/article/664/Creating_dynamic_volumes_with_loop_devices .But I cannot imagine what X and Y-1 in the dd command should be? Does anyone know a working example of this? |
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| 13:33.01 | thomas_cloud_ | petn-randall: I think that's true for most use cas3es but I want they to be more individual applicable, right now they are sorted for use case, but I was hoping of getting yet another bit more modular :) |
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| 13:33.21 | thomas_cloud_ | maybe it's not the best idea but that's how I roll right now |
| 13:33.27 | thomas_cloud_ | thx for your help anyway |
| 13:34.02 | sebastianlutter | Situation is: I need to store 30 millions of small files on a exfat disk. Because block size is set to 512k every file takes this amount of space. That is why I try to get a container file on this disk to store the files without loosing 512k for each 5kb file. Thanks if anyone can help. |
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| 13:37.28 | abrotman | sebastianlutter: why exfat? Why not a sensible filesystem? |
| 13:38.14 | zicho | i have trouble running bluej, and it seems to be some error in "bindv6only.conf" (a value that should be set to 0 instead of 1) but on my system, no such conf-file seem to exist. i am on wheezy. is that configuration located somewhere else? |
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| 13:38.53 | Mr2Fast | heyho |
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| 13:39.18 | sebastianlutter | abrotman, That is the part I cannot change. I cannot reformat the disc, I need to deal with that. Would be great to get a dynamic growing container file, but I can also use a fixed size container. I'm just curious if this is possible with growing container file |
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| 13:40.26 | abrotman | I haven't used it .. do you need to access the files individually? COuld you not tar them up? |
| 13:40.47 | thomas_cloud_ | if you tar them up iirc there is a tar fuse fs that you could even use |
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| 13:43.48 | thomas_cloud_ | uhm sebastianlutter you could try to create a tar.gz file and mount it with archivemount this will even save space through compression. but let it be noted that I don't think this is the best idea and I would use a fixed size image and reformat it with something sensible |
| 13:44.16 | sai_ | ksk and SPF Thanks, how to fix the bugs if I know how to build a package |
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| 13:46.37 | thabedpanrapper | Hi. |
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| 13:46.41 | aphoriser | What is the best way to have / ensure that a process is always up & starts with system boot? |
| 13:46.42 | thomas_cloud_ | zicho: create the file in /etc/sysctl.d/bindv6only.conf <-- it isn't in any package it's just a sysctl value.you can try setting the needed value manually before you create the file though |
| 13:46.47 | thabedpanrapper | nyone know why you have to be a member of a group for it to show up in the permissions drop-down? |
| 13:46.51 | thabedpanrapper | Anyone* |
| 13:47.02 | thabedpanrapper | I had to assign myself to www-data and relog before it'd show up in the permissions window |
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| 13:48.52 | SPF | sai_: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/developers-reference/pkgs |
| 13:49.04 | ksk | aphoriser: update-rc.d Im not sure how its handled if you use systemd though |
| 13:49.14 | ksk | !tell aphoriser about update-rc.d |
| 13:49.54 | ksk | dpkg also told you some frontend, if you wanted to do it one time on the shell (i can suggest rcconf) |
| 13:49.54 | dpkg | You are person #1 to send an unparseable request, ksk |
| 13:50.03 | ksk | jaja |
| 13:50.36 | zicho | thomas_cloud_: i tried that, i only added the line "net.ipv6.bindv6only=0" but it did not seem to work. what do you mean by setting value manually? |
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| 13:53.35 | thomas_cloud_ | zicho: you would have to restart for it to take effect.manually it work through echo 0 > /proc/sys/net/ipv6/bindv6only or sysctl net.ipv6.bindv6only=0 |
| 13:53.45 | thomas_cloud_ | anyway have to get back to work ;) hf |
| 13:54.15 | zicho | thanks, i'll try! |
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| 14:02.12 | petn-randall | aphoriser: Have a init script that starts it, and link it into the current runlevel. |
| 14:02.34 | aphoriser | Is ~/.ssh/id_rsa my default ssh key? or does ssh-agent or when doing > ssh x@0.0.0.0 ..... is only that file referenced? or is everything there in referenced? |
| 14:03.01 | aphoriser | I'm trying to figure out if I can have multiple keys in the default id_rsa |
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| 14:07.18 | petn-randall | aphoriser: Check 'IdentitiesFile' in man ssh_config. |
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| 14:07.48 | petn-randall | aphoriser: You only have one key per file, but you can reference several files. |
| 14:08.14 | aphoriser | petn-randall, thank you very much |
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| 14:09.34 | petn-randall | aphoriser: You're welcome. Feel free to ask if you have other questions. |
| 14:09.59 | funnybunny | https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=762132 <- is there anything i could do to help resolve this??? |
| 14:10.06 | funnybunny | i own a hybrid laptop and have the same problem |
| 14:10.20 | funnybunny | seems this bug has gone unfixed for several months now |
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| 14:14.28 | petn-randall | funnybunny: Since fglrx is closed source, there's not much DDs can do. The bug report does hint that it might be a Debian-specific problem. Do you have any experience with debugging X11? |
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| 14:14.43 | funnybunny | it must be, since no other distro seems affected |
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| 14:14.51 | funnybunny | petn-randall: unfortunately i do not. |
| 14:15.11 | funnybunny | but i am willing to invest some time if someone donates the know how. |
| 14:15.12 | rabbel | Hello. Is there a way to check when the last time was that I updated my repository with apt-get update? |
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| 14:16.23 | funnybunny | rabbel: ls -la /var/lib/apt/ <- modify timestamp of stuff in this dir should tell you |
| 14:16.26 | petn-randall | rabbel: You could look at the timestamps in /var/lib/apt/ |
| 14:16.30 | petn-randall | *jinx* |
| 14:16.47 | funnybunny | /var/lib/apt/lists should even tell you per mirror |
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| 14:20.45 | rabbel | funnybunny and petn-randall thank you. I see that not all files change when I execute the command. Fact is that I want to execute apt-get update if I see the repository is outdated... |
| 14:20.51 | mrtnt | Am I correct that same Debian release(for example Debian 7) can use different kernel versions throughout its lifetime? |
| 14:21.01 | rabbel | So if nothing changes today, how can I know that I have to update? |
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| 14:21.35 | mrtnt | I mean at the moment I have version 3.2.0-4-amd64, but this will probably be updated somewhere in the future? |
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| 14:23.21 | funnybunny | rabbel: if a tree falls in a wood and nobody sees it, did it really fall? |
| 14:23.26 | sigint88 | would it be possible to roll debian 7 up to 3.7 if I wanted to take advantage of a new feature? |
| 14:24.04 | petn-randall | rabbel: That's the whole point of running 'apt-get update'. It checks if the repo is current. There's no point of checking it before you check it. Kind of a bootstrapping problem ... |
| 14:24.37 | funnybunny | please check latch before checking latch. |
| 14:24.45 | funnybunny | it's actually a halting problem :D |
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| 14:25.26 | petn-randall | mrtnt: Debian sticks with the same kernel throughout the whole release cycle. It however does offer newer kernels in the backports repository, for the case that the kernel isn't new enough. |
| 14:25.34 | rabbel | Well I don't know. Executing apt-get update takes me 20 seconds on a specific single core machine. I would like to prevent that... |
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| 14:27.31 | petn-randall | rabbel: That is quite long. What are the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list and /etc/apt/sources.list.d/? → http://paste.debian.net |
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| 14:29.38 | rabbel | sources.list is http://paste.debian.net/141572/ |
| 14:30.16 | rabbel | But I also have the puppetlabs repository. |
| 14:30.22 | rabbel | In sources.list.d... |
| 14:32.14 | mrtnt | petn-randall: I see. So the "Debian 7" will use the same 3.2.0-4-amd64 from spring 2013 to "Debian 8"? |
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| 14:33.30 | Iridos | mrtnt, the last number -4 changes with security updates |
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| 14:33.48 | rabbel | petn-randall: Puppet tells me that exec apt-get update takes 24.9 seconds. |
| 14:33.58 | Iridos | ... and then you get a... err... new old kernel |
| 14:34.05 | petn-randall | mrtnt: Ye-no. wheezy will still be maintained and support after the release of jessie. |
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| 14:34.43 | petn-randall | mrtnt: But you are right that kernel 3.2 will be used as default throughout the whole cycle of wheezy. |
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| 14:36.45 | petn-randall | rabbel: You can comment out the deb-src lines if you don't download Debian source packages regularly. I don't know about the puppetlabs repo, that might be slow, too. It's also recommended to use http.debian.net as a mirror, since that automatically picks the fastest/closest one to you through geolocation. |
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| 14:38.26 | aphoriser | petn-randall, related to what I asked earlier about starting process with system.... having got it working in /etc/init.d - how can I ensure that process is always up - in case of crash to do check every so often and perform a forced restart if required. |
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| 14:39.44 | aphoriser | Also would this also mean that I have to define restart with proper init.d script with start / restart clause as part of it? |
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| 14:40.13 | aphoriser | Or maybe just a cron looks for specific process and if not present just fires it up again? |
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| 14:41.11 | petn-randall | aphoriser: If your application crashes, you'll have to fix it. That's not something that the init system covers. You'll need some kind of monitoring for that. |
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| 14:42.03 | rabbel | petn-randall: thank you for the heads up. I'll check it out. |
| 14:42.26 | JordiGH | My alsa settings keep getting fucked up when resuming from suspend to RAM. I keep manually re-running `alsactl init`. Where do I stick this so it runs every time after suspend? |
| 14:42.27 | aphoriser | petn-randall, Sure - thought I'm trying to have a local watchdog running that restarts process in case of crash. |
| 14:42.33 | petn-randall | rabbel: You're welcome. |
| 14:42.51 | JordiGH | The Debian wiki seems to suggest that *every* Debian version handles suspend differently. :-( |
| 14:43.17 | petn-randall | aphoriser: systemd does cover that use case, but the version in wheezy isn't very usable. |
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| 14:44.02 | aphoriser | petn-randall, I guess old school cron tab would be the best way of doing it? |
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| 14:46.41 | rabbel | petn-randall: 12.77 seconds when changing to http.debian.net. That's nice. Thanks! |
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| 14:48.09 | Rug | Howdy all |
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| 14:59.34 | g00se | If i do 'cryptsetup luksOpen /dev/sdb1 c' then dd /dev/mapper/c and strings finds NO strings, can i assume something's gone horribly wrong with the encryption? The reason i'm doing dd is that mount finds no recognisable file system |
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| 15:00.40 | nkuttler | m0rd3cai: which image did you write to the stick? |
| 15:00.48 | g00se | 'during install'? |
| 15:01.27 | g00se | Does it boot? |
| 15:01.32 | nkuttler | too late, gone |
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| 15:02.12 | nkuttler | g00se: you used to be able to mount the partition, right? |
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| 15:02.55 | g00se | I did at one time yes - before deleting the plaintext data :( |
| 15:03.04 | nkuttler | plaintext data? |
| 15:03.23 | g00se | Well, unencrypted data |
| 15:03.53 | nkuttler | i'm not sure what that means. did you use the encrypted partition as a backup? |
| 15:04.15 | nkuttler | or did you delete something on the decrypted filesystem? |
| 15:04.21 | g00se | iow if no fix == data gone foreer |
| 15:04.23 | nkuttler | well, cryptopened i guess |
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| 15:04.37 | bsdbeard | anyone familiar with udev rules around? no answers in other channels |
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| 15:05.33 | g00se | Well i simply created a partition, copied the data. Found it mountable/readable then deleted the original |
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| 15:06.16 | nkuttler | g00se: that sounds bad |
| 15:06.45 | frostschutz | g00se, what did you do exactly when you say "deleting the plaintext data"? |
| 15:07.23 | g00se | The unencrypted data that were elsewhere |
| 15:07.46 | nkuttler | g00se: you don't have the commands you ran to create the encrypted partition somewhere in your shell history, do you? |
| 15:07.59 | frostschutz | g00se, on another disk? sounded like you overwrite sdb1 for a moment, in which case of course the encrypted data would also be gone |
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| 15:09.16 | g00se | nkuttler: No but it was standard really: cryptsetup luksFormat (or something) |
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| 15:09.54 | decci | Hello Guys |
| 15:09.55 | g00se | frostschutz: I horribly suspect a kind of 'flushing' problem before dismount |
| 15:10.14 | decci | I am seeing a very unique issue while installing Debian. |
| 15:10.43 | decci | I installed Debian 7.8.0 amd64 version of three blade server and it just went fine |
| 15:11.20 | decci | While installing it on 4th blade server, it threw error saying "the grub-pc package failed to install into /target/" |
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| 15:12.05 | decci | Actually what happened is I tried installing debian with SD card + PERC RAID controller |
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| 15:13.00 | decci | The installation abrupt in between |
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| 15:13.38 | nkuttler | decci: hm, that error is awfully generic, you probably want to check if there are some log files, or switch to vt 1 |
| 15:13.38 | decci | I removed SD card |
| 15:14.04 | nkuttler | decci: /target/ was on your raid, right? |
| 15:14.09 | decci | nkuttler: What really surprised me it never showed up in last 3 machines |
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| 15:14.16 | frostschutz | g00se, encryption is more or less live, there is no major caching going on, even if something did not flush at the end you should still find some strings. if you find nothing then you have the wrong cipher or offset; or maybe you wrote the data unencrypted after all, check strings of sdb1 itself |
| 15:14.23 | nkuttler | decci: my first guess would your raid/disks are bad |
| 15:14.28 | nkuttler | would be |
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| 15:14.53 | decci | nkuttler: I cleared the RAID controller settings |
| 15:14.59 | lhunath | what would I do if I were looking for a sponsor/mentor to help me get a security package into contrib/main? |
| 15:15.10 | nkuttler | frostschutz: but luksOpen would give an error if it couldn't decrypt the partition, wouldn't it? |
| 15:15.17 | g00se | /dev/sdb1 is meant to have ext2 on it. luksOpen works properly and accepts the key |
| 15:15.31 | decci | nkuttler: I wonder if its searching for /dev/sda |
| 15:15.41 | decci | nkuttler: Can that be a reason? |
| 15:15.42 | nkuttler | !tell lhunath about mentors |
| 15:15.46 | anddam | bye |
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| 15:15.55 | nkuttler | decci: no idea tbh |
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| 15:16.29 | decci | nkuttler: I changed multiple hard disk but still the same issue |
| 15:16.41 | frostschutz | nkuttler, normally... but maybe it was luksformatted afterwards, while it was still open with another key... something like that. there is no date in the luks header so it's more or less impossible to tell |
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| 15:16.58 | decci | nkuttler: I burnt couple of DVD..but still the same issue |
| 15:17.17 | frostschutz | g00se, which cipher/hash are you using? |
| 15:17.26 | decci | nkuttler: I used expert mode too..once the text mode got installed |
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| 15:18.11 | g00se | The default. Raw dump of /dev/mapper/c shows repeating byte sequences. That looks BAD |
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| 15:18.18 | nkuttler | decci: maybe the raid controller is bad |
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| 15:19.47 | nkuttler | decci: did you get the same error on each install? every time with the grub package? |
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| 15:20.01 | g00se | Does mke2fs by any chance put in repeating byte sequences? |
| 15:20.22 | decci | nkuttler: No..the first 3 machine went just fine |
| 15:20.42 | nkuttler | decci: i'm only speaking about the last machine |
| 15:20.44 | decci | nkuttler: The 4th machine is what showing this up |
| 15:20.51 | nkuttler | decci: repeatedly? |
| 15:21.00 | decci | nkuttler: Yes...every install has the same error |
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| 15:21.11 | nkuttler | g00se: well, there are backups of the superblock.. |
| 15:21.43 | g00se | At some point i think i tried e2fscking it |
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| 15:21.56 | decci | nkuttler: While it crossed "Installing Base System" >> It threw error about apt >> the grub-pc package failed to install to /target/ |
| 15:22.30 | nkuttler | decci: you already said that. this error happened multiple times, right? that's strange i guess |
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| 15:22.59 | nkuttler | but it sounds like the raid controller is the only thing you didn't try to switch out yet |
| 15:23.03 | g00se | thinks his first foray into cryptsetup has been of the rm -rf / variety |
| 15:24.27 | decci | nkuttler: I have no RAID controller on the other machines..though I need to confirm on that |
| 15:24.51 | decci | nkuttler: But since it detected RAID controller..I think it has right driver in place |
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| 15:26.08 | nkuttler | decci: ah.. so that's unique to that box.. |
| 15:26.37 | decci | nkuttler: But I need to check on that..I wonder if thats RAID controller issue |
| 15:26.54 | decci | nkuttler: It has H710P RAID controller |
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| 15:27.08 | nkuttler | decci: well, it's certainly strange that the error happens after some time and always during the same step.. |
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| 15:27.44 | nkuttler | the first can happen due to things overheating.. but the latter.. i guess that sounds more like a software problem.. or pixies |
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| 15:28.06 | AndChat|345984 | Hi |
| 15:28.06 | nkuttler | (software in this case could mean the controller firmware) |
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| 15:28.51 | decci_ | yes |
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| 15:29.40 | nkuttler | decci: but i thought the three other computers used the same controller.. so maybe it's a linux problem. who knows.. |
| 15:29.49 | nkuttler | that's why you need to do more testing |
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| 15:31.29 | decci_ | nkuttler: Tomorrow I will check the hardware config of other machine and see if it contains RAID controller or not |
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| 15:32.20 | decci_ | nkuttler: Will you be available tomorrow? |
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| 15:35.03 | nkuttler | decci_: plenty of people around.. i charge for 1on1 support ;) |
| 15:35.24 | decci_ | nkuttler: Really..then lets work..I have lots of project in hand |
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| 15:35.36 | decci_ | nkuttler: If you are interested, we can share the work :) |
| 15:35.58 | decci_ | nkuttler: Just kidding |
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| 15:36.49 | rj11 | Can I somehow disable Xinerama with the nouveau driver included in Jessie? I've tried adding Option "Xinerama" "0" to xorg.conf.d but nothing changes. |
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| 15:39.18 | g00se | Well thanks for the help guys, but i fear the data lost |
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| 15:40.39 | rj11 | Basically I want separate screens so I can have a manager on one and a full-screen rdesktop on the other. |
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| 15:49.58 | rj11 | Ah, I'm screwed, just found this on wiki.debian.org: "It is not possible anymore with RandR 1.2" |
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| 15:58.58 | _1_Iftikhar | helli |
| 15:59.04 | _1_Iftikhar | hello |
| 15:59.12 | _1_Iftikhar | any one there |
| 15:59.43 | Rug | Yes |
| 15:59.54 | Rug | some are here some are gone |
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| 16:00.23 | _1_Iftikhar | h r u |
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| 16:00.57 | _1_Iftikhar | rug u from? |
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| 16:01.09 | Rug | I have an odd problem with remote connections to my mysql server. (This is all on my 192.168.0.0/24 LAN) If I have bind-address set to 0.0.0.0, then half of the PC's on my LAN can connect (testing using telnet) the other half gets and instant error (Connection refused). If I set bind-address=192.168.0.248 then _MOST_ of the computers that couldn't connect can now connect. But not all of them. It is acting |
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| 16:01.15 | Rug | like there is a firewall in place, but there isn't. |
| 16:01.23 | Rug | _1_Iftikhar: Why? |
| 16:02.14 | _1_Iftikhar | just chat |
| 16:02.27 | petn-randall | _1_Iftikhar: This is not a general chat channel, this is a Debian support channel. Join #defocus for general chat. |
| 16:02.41 | _1_Iftikhar | ok thanks |
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| 16:03.04 | Rug | # netstat -nat |grep :3306 |
| 16:03.05 | Rug | tcp 0 0 192.168.0.248:3306 0.0.0.0:* LISTEN |
| 16:03.14 | Rug | That shows that my port is open |
| 16:03.33 | petn-randall | Rug: I guess this is the point where you should use wireshark to debug the issue. Notice that you can also restrict IP addresses within MySQL, though I'm wondering how it would behave differently on changing the bind address. |
| 16:03.40 | Rug | Anyhow i would like any suggestions that anybody might have. I am stumped. |
| 16:04.17 | Rug | petn-randall: ok thanks. That is something that I was trying to avoid! |
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| 16:04.58 | nkuttler | petn-randall: actually, #defocus is closed, it's ##chat now |
| 16:05.05 | Rug | as far as mysql; I should be getting ".... is not allowed to connect..." and not "Connection refused." |
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| 16:07.21 | ChrisH | Rug: sounds a bit like netmask not equal set... I saw really weird things happen with mixed netmasks. |
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| 16:07.47 | AnimalFarmPig | what would cause a "hash sum" mismatch when trying to update package information (beside NSA sitting on the wire fiddling the bits)? |
| 16:08.32 | Rug | ChrisH: yeah i checked my network config. It is configured correcetly, but yes; I had that exact same thought. |
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| 16:09.01 | ChrisH | Rug: then tcpdump is your friend. |
| 16:09.24 | Rug | ChrisH: I guess so. |
| 16:09.25 | petn-randall | AnimalFarmPig: The mirror is getting an update via rsync and is not finished yet. The problem should resolve itself in a couple of minutes. |
| 16:09.35 | AnimalFarmPig | oh, cool |
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| 16:09.44 | AnimalFarmPig | thanks |
| 16:10.23 | petn-randall | AnimalFarmPig: Seldomly the rsync fails intermittently due to connection issues, then the problem might persist a little longer. But it should be gone within a day. If not, you should change mirrors. |
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| 16:11.07 | AnimalFarmPig | works for me. Just wanted to install some software and mirrors.kernel.org seems to be getting updated for about 30 minutes. I'll do something else for a bit |
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| 16:13.21 | Rug | Just to add to this overall mystery: some clients can connect and then after 'x' amount of time not be able to connect. The TCPDump from a computer that Can't connect shows nothing. The data isn't even showing up in tcpdump. |
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| 16:14.19 | Rug | How the heck can data not get to tcpdump if there is no firewall in place? |
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| 16:14.33 | Rug | could my switch be bad? |
| 16:15.04 | petn-randall | Rug: tcpdump picks raw packets, you should see connection attempts even if it gets dropped by the firewall. |
| 16:15.21 | Rug | petn-randall: That's what I thought. |
| 16:15.32 | Rug | tcpdump -vvnettti eth0 port 3306 |
| 16:15.48 | petn-randall | Rug: Guess there's a bug with your application. Can you ping the IP of the MySQL server without problems? |
| 16:16.02 | Rug | yes, ping works |
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| 16:17.05 | petn-randall | Rug: So 0 packet drops over a longer time? If yes, it's probably your application failing to connection to MySQL. |
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| 16:18.27 | Rug | I'll test again with 10 clients all pinging. |
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| 16:18.41 | bigterd | promisc mode? depending how your link(s) are setup? |
| 16:18.46 | Rug | petn-randall: it comes and go |
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| 16:19.15 | bigterd | sorry to bust in, figured i'd vote someting then nothing. nothing wrong with food for thought. |
| 16:19.37 | Rug | bigterd: no, thanks for your input... |
| 16:19.50 | Rug | bigterd: and to answer your question; no |
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| 16:20.12 | bigterd | ha, maybe i should scroll up.. |
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| 16:20.25 | Rug | bigterd: nah, that;s no fun! |
| 16:20.25 | petn-randall | Rug: Comes and goes, meaning you *have* packet drops? |
| 16:20.45 | Rug | petn-randall: no ping loss on any client. |
| 16:21.13 | bigterd | that sounds flakey. i have a weird issue with 6 nics in my one box, i could set ip's and could ping themselves, but couldn't make anything happen over the actual copper. checked and fiddled with routes and whatever. i gave up and restarted it. worked. |
| 16:21.16 | petn-randall | Rug: In that case look into the application not initiating connections. |
| 16:21.18 | bigterd | i had* |
| 16:21.31 | Rug | petn-randall: some clients can connect (telnet) to port 3306, I can login via mysql, it will work for awhile and then just stop. |
| 16:21.50 | AnimalFarmPig | maybe a silly thing to ask, but are you connecting using a hostname or an ipv4 address to the msql box? |
| 16:21.53 | bigterd | i had a 5 port switch. i retired it with a computer with 6 nics. figured a switch with a keyboard was more useful. |
| 16:22.01 | Rug | AnimalFarmPig: IP |
| 16:22.28 | bigterd | Rug: kernel printing unhappy link messages? |
| 16:22.37 | Rug | petn-randall: for testing I am using telnet. |
| 16:22.42 | AnimalFarmPig | ok. Wanted to make sure clients were trying to connect over ipv4 rather than ipv6 |
| 16:22.43 | Rug | bigterd: let me check. |
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| 16:23.11 | Rug | bigterd: nope. |
| 16:23.14 | bigterd | if it's something the kernel can make sense of i'tll log something. |
| 16:23.23 | bigterd | hm |
| 16:23.29 | bigterd | tried differnt cables? |
| 16:23.55 | Rug | no. I haven't swapped cables around. |
| 16:24.25 | bigterd | <PROTECTED> |
| 16:24.32 | bigterd | ended up using shielded too |
| 16:24.45 | Rug | bigterd: This is in a datacenter. |
| 16:24.56 | bigterd | hey man, cables don't like noise, point of story. |
| 16:25.08 | hikenboot | hi is there a length maximum on initrd and vmlinuz lines in isolinux ? ALl examples show using initrd1 and vmlinuz1 I would like to use something like vmlinuz-3.16.0-4-amd64 but it doesnt seem to work (doesnt find the kernel) |
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| 16:25.15 | bigterd | a bad pin pierce is hard to see. |
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| 16:25.28 | Rug | bigterd: no pproblem with your story, I was just implying that cable-routign is easier for me |
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| 16:26.13 | bigterd | well, if you in a datacenter, i'm sure you can have peter and paul change shoes for a while |
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| 16:27.06 | bigterd | a question from me, for a simple home media, would anyone personally gamble 6x3Tb drives in a raid5? |
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| 16:31.19 | hikenboot | should i use a symlink from initrd1 to the real initrd if so will this effect updates to kernel? |
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| 16:45.52 | Rug | I think I found it! |
| 16:46.13 | Rug | ladies and gentkeman. I have the solution to my problem |
| 16:46.42 | Rug | another fscking box is using the same IP as my server. |
| 16:47.56 | bigterd | that's a good possibility too |
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| 16:49.53 | zophy_ | you can violently eliminate people that use your ip address, it's part of the millenial copygright axt |
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| 16:52.19 | jelly | bigterd: only if you're ok with losing the data |
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| 16:53.06 | bigterd | jelly: it'd be temproarly. everything i have on it i've downloaded from the internet. it won't hold personal family pics/vids. i just need to quickly expand on short notice. |
| 16:53.36 | bigterd | not sure if i should buy 4tb drives and build a new array, or continue growing the current with more 3tb drives |
| 16:54.03 | jelly | both are horribly slow to rebuild, there's no winning strategy |
| 16:54.22 | bigterd | budget wise. |
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| 16:54.37 | jelly | budget wise, wipe some of the data. |
| 16:54.37 | bigterd | time isn't important. i just wait and do other things. only one client accesses it. that's me. |
| 16:54.51 | bigterd | no! it's a data library! do you burn books!? |
| 16:54.59 | bigterd | and i don't have the nice fat free cable link anymore |
| 16:56.49 | jelly | I personally wouldn't use raid5 for anything, and would carefully weigh raid10+hot spare vs. raid6+hot spare, probably going with raidz2 (zfs) on a well supported platform (not linux) |
| 16:57.09 | bigterd | hm |
| 16:57.20 | bigterd | raid10 with 40tb of needed space seems wasteful |
| 16:57.37 | jelly | raid5 is nice when you have fast spindles and can rebuild under 4 hours |
| 16:58.00 | jelly | for consumer sata disks, to way |
| 16:58.03 | jelly | no* way |
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| 16:58.30 | bigterd | hm, i just unmount and let it rebuild, or not use it while mounted. either or. |
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| 16:58.40 | bigterd | i don't have to watch movies and listen to music while it works |
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| 16:58.45 | BenLue | moin |
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| 16:59.16 | frostschutz | I'm happy with raid5. |
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| 17:02.04 | EmleyMoor | I am a RAID6 fan |
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| 17:03.54 | frostschutz | but regardless of the raid level, you should keep the gamble to a minimum... smart and mdadm monitoring with mail notification, regular selftests, replace disks at the first sign of trouble. if you never notice errors, no amount of redundancy will help |
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| 17:05.15 | EmleyMoor | frostschutz: Quite. I've had extremely bad luck with /dev/sdb in mine... only after three replacements did it stop misbehaving. |
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| 17:10.31 | hikenboot | Rug, I remember when I was an admin there would be duplicate dns entries and round robin would make things work some times and not others |
| 17:12.17 | emorris | Hi, I'm running wheezy on the Beaglebone Black. I have a USB 3G dongle which appears as an ethernet device. Looking at udev, it initally installs it as eth1, and I can see this in ifconfig -a, however it soon changes to rename3, with the number increasing each time it's unplugged/plugged in. Tried to write a udev rule but still does it. Any ideas? |
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| 17:13.19 | emorris | To add, it seems to work OK using it with it's rename* names, it's just a pain that it keeps changing |
| 17:13.53 | jhutchins | emorris: Anything interesting in dmesg? |
| 17:15.37 | emorris | jhutchins, not that I can see; no mention of 'udev' or 'rename'. http://paste.debian.net/141605/ |
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| 17:17.51 | jelly | emorris: does it change its MAC address every time? |
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| 17:18.54 | emorris | jelly, no but the MAC address is really weird, 00:a0:c6:00:00:00 |
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| 17:19.33 | jelly | emorris: have you tried adding an entry for that MAC to /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules |
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| 17:25.56 | knosys | Hello guys. Do you know any software for android that allow me to download packages from debian repositories? |
| 17:26.08 | knosys | like as apt-get would do? |
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| 17:26.41 | knosys | I need to download packages from a wifi outside my building and would like to find an easy way, like if i were using debian terminal or something |
| 17:26.42 | dimitry7 | hi guys, is it safe to keep port 80 open even when I have redirected my triffic to 443 with SSL ? |
| 17:27.02 | dimitry7 | * traffic |
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| 17:29.18 | emorris | jelly, no I had put it in a different file but actually I've found the problem in that file. It had this line which matched all eth devices: SUBSYSTEM=="net", ACTION=="add", DRIVERS=="?*", ATTR{dev_id}=="0x0", ATTR{type}=="1", KERNEL=="eth*", NAME="eth0" |
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| 17:33.26 | knosys | Guys maybe something like "BotBrew" would work? |
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| 17:37.55 | knosys | can someone code that? XDDD |
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| 17:48.28 | knosys | please if someone know any way to download debian packages and dependances, apt-get like, from android device, I would appreciate the information. Thanks |
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| 17:50.00 | petn-randall | knosys: This sounds like a very special use case, I doubt there exists software to do that automated. |
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| 17:53.46 | cdb23ax | hello, can you tell me where you get cheap vps in germany where all ports are open incl. port 25 smtp |
| 17:53.54 | knosys | I dont think is so special. Maybe the android thing it is... |
| 17:54.15 | knosys | But i have think a lot of times that i would like to "simulate" a distribution to download the needed packages from everywhere |
| 17:54.31 | cdb23ax | we have enough of the scammer runabove.com vps hoster |
| 17:54.35 | knosys | maybe for android platform its too specific yes... but mobility is all the point so is not bad idea |
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| 17:55.17 | knosys | maybe someone could code it fast? xDDD |
| 17:55.20 | petn-randall | cdb23ax: This is not really related to Debian. There are probably more suitable channels to ask this. |
| 17:55.50 | knosys | lol sorry i cant avoid asking and lauging about that, i dont expect noone to do that for me im just joking |
| 17:56.22 | petn-randall | knosys: apt-offline or apt-zip can be used for that, but Android is rather limited. |
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| 17:59.37 | knosys | i see |
| 17:59.55 | knosys | well thanks anyway that was usefull info |
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| 18:01.12 | ToApolytoXaos | good evening guys. i am dealing with a very peculiar situation on my system. it's a debian testing 64-bit, fully up to date and the problem is with sound. for some reason it behaves as if someone is turning the volume down and then up and the same process from the start. i don't know where to look |
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| 18:02.58 | mtn | ToApolytoXaos: pulseaudio |
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| 18:03.21 | ToApolytoXaos | mtn: unfortunately yes |
| 18:03.29 | petn-randall | ToApolytoXaos: Are you running Skype? |
| 18:03.34 | ToApolytoXaos | no |
| 18:03.38 | mtn | ToApolytoXaos: that was an answer :) |
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| 18:04.01 | ToApolytoXaos | mtn: mine or yours? lol |
| 18:04.07 | mtn | ToApolytoXaos: the arch wiki has a section of fixing pulse problems with a solution for you |
| 18:04.31 | ToApolytoXaos | mtn: a link would be of valuable help and would be greatly appreciated |
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| 18:04.50 | mtn | ToApolytoXaos: I don't have it handy |
| 18:05.02 | ToApolytoXaos | mtn: oh, i have forgot to mention; a friend of mine has exactly my own PC specs and he's not facing such issues. |
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| 18:18.22 | jhutchins | ToApolytoXaos: It might be relevant to know what applications have this problem, and if all audio has this problem. |
| 18:18.29 | jhutchins | !alsa checklist |
| 18:18.29 | dpkg | 1) add yourself to the 'audio' group (log out & in again) 2) unmute and raise channels w/ alsamixer (also try muting some & toggle jack sense if available) 3) <pulseaudio> or other daemon stopped? 4) speakers on? 5) does "aplay /usr/share/sounds/alsa/Noise.wav" work for root? 6) purge any installed <oss4> packages to remove ALSA blacklist. See also <list alsa users>, <alsa firmware>. |
| 18:18.43 | jhutchins | ToApolytoXaos: THat's probably not much help. |
| 18:18.47 | mtn | it is a well known pulseaudio problem |
| 18:19.33 | jhutchins | mtn: Ok. |
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| 18:19.50 | balin | I'm trying to install from the stable CD1 on a USB stick via a serial connection to a headless box. When I boot the stick I get incomprehensible symbols and then nothing. Anything I tried after that produces an "invalid video mode" afte rwhich I am completely stuck. How to boot a stock image for a 1920 console? |
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| 18:22.35 | balin | The exact last message is: Undefined video mode number: 314 Press <ENTER> to see video modes available, <SPACE> to continue, or wait 30 sec |
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| 18:24.32 | jhutchins | ToApolytoXaos: If you find that post on arch I would appreciate a link. |
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| 18:25.26 | plm | Hi all |
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| 18:25.50 | jhutchins | mtIs this the one you were thinking of? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PulseAudio/Troubleshooting |
| 18:26.13 | plm | $./app.sh 2>> error.log -> how I do to add datetime when each error happen? |
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| 18:30.43 | valdyn | plm: $./app.sh 1>&2 2>&1 | sed s/^/$(date)/ >> error.log (or something like that) |
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| 18:31.14 | valdyn | plm: im sure i got the sed command wrong, but you can get the idea from this.. |
| 18:32.58 | valdyn | plm: sed -e "s/^/$(date)/g" |
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| 18:41.02 | ToApolytoXaos | jhutchins: thanks for the link; i will check it right now |
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| 18:41.33 | thoughtsofdoom | does anyone know about sandboxing in debian |
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| 18:42.16 | plm | valdyn: thanks |
| 18:42.24 | thoughtsofdoom | does anyone know about sandboxing in debian |
| 18:42.28 | centrx | thoughtsofdoom, like chroot, virtual machine, or LXC? |
| 18:42.32 | centrx | thoughtsofdoom, don't repeat |
| 18:42.43 | thoughtsofdoom | centrx, I'm lagging sorry |
| 18:43.01 | thoughtsofdoom | centrx, LXC iirc |
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| 18:47.56 | ToApolytoXaos | jhutchins: i followed the link's suggestions, but it still does it :/ |
| 18:47.58 | thoughtsofdoom | centrx, ? |
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| 18:48.20 | centrx | thoughtsofdoom, yeah I don't know much about that, try ##linux |
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| 18:48.31 | centrx | thoughtsofdoom, #lxc |
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| 18:49.02 | trysten | hello friends! |
| 18:49.15 | balin | Advise on serial connection install on headless node - how to coerce the stock stable cd1 (on a botable usb) to install? When I boot the stick I get incomprehensible symbols and then nothing. Anything I tried after that produces an "invalid video mode" afte rwhich I am completely stuck. How to boot a stock image for a 19200 console? |
| 18:49.30 | trysten | so do processes with random letters for names ever have a legitimate purpose? i think my debian box might be infected |
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| 18:49.39 | centrx | trysten, how random, what is the name? |
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| 18:50.12 | trysten | svkoniwjlp |
| 18:50.22 | trysten | it was a different one before i rebooted, centrx |
| 18:50.36 | centrx | trysten, ok yeah that sounds bad |
| 18:50.54 | centrx | trysten, I would shut down, boot from a rescue disk to get your data |
| 18:51.08 | centrx | then reinstall |
| 18:51.22 | centrx | unless you have a friend playing a trick on your or something |
| 18:51.28 | trysten | no |
| 18:51.32 | trysten | i have seafile open to the internet |
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| 18:51.46 | trysten | so... ABORT. don't even try to fix it, centrx? |
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| 18:52.10 | centrx | trysten, that is the best practice from a security standpoint |
| 18:52.26 | trysten | thanks! kudos +1 |
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| 18:53.31 | sai_ | Can anyone help me to knowhow can I get the gpg key? |
| 18:54.04 | centrx | sai_, "the" gpg key? |
| 18:54.06 | m0rd3cai | I just installed deb 7 wheezy and im having trouble with ntfs-3g mounting with normal user. |
| 18:54.22 | m0rd3cai | mounting an ntfs usb HD* |
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| 18:55.49 | Guest1 | Hi. |
| 18:55.53 | balin | How to boot into the stable installer CD1 (blind, not seeing anything as I'm serial) and hand the kernel parameters? |
| 18:55.59 | Guest1 | I'm wondering if switching to systemd on debian wheezy is a good idea. Will I have any problems when updating to jessy when it's released or problems with init.d? It's a fresh install so no services to migrate, I just feel like I will have problems if I choose init.d. |
| 18:56.25 | sai_ | centrx , Yes while I was retriving an existing source package it is asking for the gpg key. Can I obtain it? |
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| 18:57.07 | centrx | sai_, If the package is from the Debian archive, is debian-keyring installed? |
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| 18:57.49 | centrx | Guest1, Changing from sysvinit to systemd after release is okay, might even work better |
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| 18:58.17 | centrx | m0rd3cai, If you put an entry in /etc/fstab with the "user" option, you can mount as a user |
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| 18:58.48 | yates | the debian version i'm using doesn't appear to include the g_multi kernel module (which provides the rndis/usb network interface over usb), or at least it's not configured and/or loading correctly. are there any how-tos or pointers on that? |
| 18:59.03 | superlinux-hp | hi. wheezy backports is giving me bad signature when apt-get update |
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| 18:59.15 | tremon | Guest1: it's not a good idea. Even the systemd maintainers have said that no one should be the systemd version that wheezy was shipped with |
| 18:59.17 | superlinux-hp | i need the correct key please |
| 18:59.28 | jelly | Guest1: it's not a good idea, switching at release upgrade time will be better supported |
| 18:59.31 | tremon | *running* the ... |
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| 18:59.47 | Guest1 | I'd probably have to reconfigure everything and the machine wouldn't be working till I do it otherwise. I was going to use this tutorial, it's a version from backports. |
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| 19:00.08 | jelly | tremon: even using the wheezy-backports one carries issues |
| 19:00.25 | Guest1 | How will I switch at release upgrade? Will it delete sysvinit during it? Or will the two be left. |
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| 19:00.46 | jelly | Guest1: you will read the release notes and stuff will be detailed there. |
| 19:01.02 | sai_ | centrx, thanks but may I know what is the function of debian-keyring and am installing it |
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| 19:01.13 | Guest1 | I see, well, not the best time to configure new machine I guess. Thanks. |
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| 19:01.51 | centrx | sai_, actually it might be debian-archive-keyring that you want |
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| 19:02.04 | centrx | sai_, They contain the GPG keys of the Debian Archive, and Debian Developers/Maintainers, respectively |
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| 19:06.23 | sai_ | centrx, sorry the issue is not solved am using a command to retrive and replies "dscverify: wget_1.4.4-6.dsc failed signature check: gpg: keyblock resource `/home/sai/.gnupg/secring.gpg': file open error gpg: Signature made Fri 28 Mar 1997 08:13:24 PM IST using RSA key ID C2D12969 gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found Validation FAILED!!" |
| 19:06.30 | sai_ | centrx, sorry the issue is not solved am using a command to retrive and replies "dscverify: wget_1.4.4-6.dsc failed signature check: gpg: keyblock resource `/home/sai/.gnupg/secring.gpg': file open error gpg: Signature made Fri 28 Mar 1997 08:13:24 PM IST using RSA key ID C2D12969 gpg: Can't check signature: public key not found Validation FAILED!!" |
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| 19:07.18 | paultag | sai_: gpg --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg --export 0xFULLKEYIDHERE | gpg --import |
| 19:07.37 | paultag | Also keep in mind that won't have keys that were removed from the keyring |
| 19:07.41 | paultag | e.g. retired DDs or retired keys |
| 19:08.08 | paultag | Or verify using that as --keyring |
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| 19:08.18 | paultag | and --verify rather then --export |
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| 19:08.59 | paultag | or dscverify --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-keyring.gpg foo.dsc |
| 19:09.17 | paultag | which it should do by default as I think abou tit |
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| 19:11.37 | sai_ | paultag, it gives me such o/p "gpg: key "0xFULLKEYIDHERE" not found: malformed user id gpg: WARNING: nothing exported gpg: no valid OpenPGP data found. gpg: Total number processed: 0" |
| 19:11.46 | paultag | well yes |
| 19:11.52 | paultag | because FULLKEYIDHERE is the full key id |
| 19:11.55 | paultag | not that literal string |
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| 19:12.47 | sai_ | i am not getting anything as am a newbie am at a learning still |
| 19:13.06 | sai_ | *stage |
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| 19:14.45 | sai_ | paultag, i am not getting anything as am a newbie am at a learning stage |
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| 19:18.09 | sai_ | paultag, Please help me I want to learn and contribute |
| 19:18.22 | paultag | Hey, sorry, I just got pulled into a meeting, sorry I'm working |
| 19:18.26 | paultag | hopeflly someone else can pick up |
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| 19:19.00 | sai_ | paultag, No issues and thanks |
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| 19:21.34 | balin | if the stable installer leaves you with an undiceipherable visual output (serial console detection seems not right), what would I have to type on the keyboard to get to a boot console and boot with serial-console specific parameters? |
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| 19:25.56 | sai_ | How can i get the gpg key ? |
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| 19:27.57 | Guest1 | sai_ try this apt-get update 2> /tmp/keymissing; for key in $(grep "NO_PUBKEY" /tmp/keymissing |sed "s/.*NO_PUBKEY //"); do echo -e "\nProcessing key: $key"; gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv $key && sudo gpg --export --armor $key | apt-key add -; done && rm /tmp/keymissing |
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| 19:29.27 | paulk-collins | hi there, I'm using prosody (xmpp server) with mysql backend and systemd |
| 19:29.30 | acz32 | is there any gui program that will do full disk encryption in debian? |
| 19:29.35 | paulk-collins | it seems that mysql is started after prosody |
| 19:29.38 | paulk-collins | how I can correct that? |
| 19:30.25 | LIERO | iceweasel won't open most google resources, i.e. youtube, etc |
| 19:30.37 | LIERO | yet I can ping the domains |
| 19:30.51 | LIERO | anyone had similar problems? |
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| 19:33.02 | petn-randall | paulk-collins: Are you using systemd on wheezy? |
| 19:33.10 | paulk-collins | on jessie |
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| 19:33.53 | petn-randall | paulk-collins: In that case file a bug report against prosody. |
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| 19:39.51 | temhaa | hello |
| 19:39.59 | temhaa | We are using tomcat |
| 19:40.11 | temhaa | We see "too many open files" error in tomcat logs |
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| 19:40.26 | temhaa | how to trace connections, open files. |
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| 19:40.45 | temhaa | tomcat connect to redis via localhost |
| 19:41.00 | temhaa | I guess this reason is redis but I am not sure |
| 19:41.19 | temhaa | how to trace system for this problem |
| 19:42.04 | mr_dallas | unoconv runs as a client or server, is there some way to easily install just what's needed to run as a client, with idea of running server aspect on another computer? |
| 19:43.27 | petn-randall | temhaa: This is probably due to ulimits set for tomcat. |
| 19:44.40 | temhaa | petn-randall: how to increase ulimits for tomcat |
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| 19:45.15 | temhaa | petn-randall: I set /etc/security/limits.conf "* soft nofile 4096" |
| 19:45.35 | temhaa | petn-randall: But ı see /proc/tomcat_pid/limits -> 2048 |
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| 19:45.48 | temhaa | petn-randall: Im stranger for this issue |
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| 19:49.51 | jolt | temhaa: I'm usually lazy and add ulimit -n NNNN to the init script itself |
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| 19:52.49 | jolt | temhaa: i.e. in /etc/defaults/tomcat |
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| 20:00.34 | m0rd3cai | ive got whats probably a stupid question. Im using Gnome classic and I cant put any files on my desktop |
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| 20:01.23 | jekko^_^ | hello, i tried to write in che channel #raspbian but no reply |
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| 20:01.47 | jekko^_^ | Can someone help me with raspbian? |
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| 20:02.04 | jelly | jekko^_^: they may be away, be patient. |
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| 20:02.49 | jekko^_^ | ok :( |
| 20:02.51 | jelly | jekko^_^: this is how irc channels work: if I knew anything about raspbian and wanted to answer questions about it, I'd be present in that channel |
| 20:02.54 | m0rd3cai | i got it |
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| 20:05.10 | kruug | Hello, I'm trying to find the CUDA driver for NVIDIA Corporation GF106GL [Quadro 2000]. Can anyone help? |
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| 20:06.20 | jhutchins | jekko^_^: For narrower interests - OSs limited to a specific device for instance - live irc frequently isn't populated well enough to be very useful. You'll find that mailing lists and forums work better for that type of project. |
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| 20:07.44 | jekko^_^ | for the mailing list i would have 2 wait for the reply...i would like to try to resolve my problem now :) |
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| 20:08.21 | jekko^_^ | i already made much research on internet but i didn't find a solution :( |
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| 20:09.40 | myghty | hey guys, I got a small problem... when I run testsaslauthd -u example -p xxx I get connect() no such file or directory |
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| 20:10.07 | myghty | /var/run/saslauthd and /var/spool/postfix/var/run/saslauthd are both just empty directories :/ |
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| 20:12.45 | jelly | myghty: is the saslauthd daemon process running at all? |
| 20:13.07 | myghty | I guess not... |
| 20:13.35 | elb | I dunno what testsaslauthd does, but postfix runs chroot |
| 20:13.39 | jelly | myghty: don't guess, grep the process list |
| 20:13.45 | myghty | too less sleep for me I guess |
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| 20:13.54 | elb | so if it's checking the chroot, you need to make sure the sasl socket is available within the chroot |
| 20:14.06 | myghty | just did... jelly not there :/ |
| 20:14.11 | myghty | will try to start it |
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| 20:14.48 | myghty | ah now it works... fail to me... thx guys |
| 20:14.57 | myghty | I should sleep more before I ask questions |
| 20:15.47 | elb | if only to have hte luxury of sleep ... |
| 20:15.48 | elb | ;-) |
| 20:15.55 | myghty | ;D |
| 20:16.10 | myghty | or caffein |
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| 20:24.18 | Shadow_7 | luxury of sleep == unemployed ... therefor solution == come to the usa |
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| 20:44.54 | temhaa | jolt: I installed manuelly tomcat. so I can not set /etc/default/tomcat |
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| 20:48.08 | _2_Libster | :'(;):D:O(L) |
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| 20:50.18 | dodo | How to see what files a process is trying to open? the process is running just for a few miliseconds until it display "file not found". |
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| 20:51.00 | kruug | I seriously hate nVidia. How can I fix "One or more modprobe configuration files to disable Nouveau have been written." stopping my CUDA install attempt? |
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| 20:51.49 | ChrisH | dpkg: tell dodo about strace |
| 20:51.56 | jhutchins | kruug: Look in /etc/modprobe.d, move the extra file somewhere else (don't just delete it unless you're sure which one is surplus). |
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| 20:52.15 | dodo | thanks Chrish |
| 20:52.39 | kruug | jhutchins: nvidia-installer-disable-nouveau.conf ? |
| 20:53.24 | jhutchins | kruug: Not at all what I said. |
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| 20:53.49 | jhutchins | kruug: That script is probably what wrote both files. |
| 20:54.28 | ChrisH | I just pressed some weird keys and got a mouse pointer with forbidden sign. running kde. What happened (keys involved might be CAPS Lock, CRTL, F1, ESC and the ones nearby) |
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| 20:55.28 | kruug | jhutchins: this is what's in modprobe.d: http://paste.debian.net/141649/ |
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| 20:56.32 | kruug | I've also did the nouveau=0 thing in grub |
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| 20:58.31 | jhutchins | kruug: Ctrl-Alt-Esc? That gives you the kill pointer. |
| 20:58.42 | Iridos | ChrisH, clearly must mean you pressed a key that was forbidden! :D |
| 20:58.44 | kruug | jhutchins: no X session, all terminal |
| 20:58.57 | jhutchins | kruug: It will attempt to kill any process on which you click. |
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| 20:59.15 | jhutchins | kruug: Interesting. Let us know if you reproduce it. |
| 20:59.20 | Iridos | jhutchins, think you wanted to address ChrisH with the last bits |
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| 20:59.58 | jhutchins | Yeah, sloppy nics. |
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| 21:01.04 | jhutchins | kruug: Yup, those are the files you need to look at. |
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| 21:01.53 | kruug | jhutchins: and what am I looking for? nouveau? |
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| 21:02.03 | kruug | two of the files blacklist nouveau |
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| 21:06.59 | kruug | oh, I see...it would help if I read further into the error. It's failing at GCC because mine is too new (version mismatch) |
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| 21:09.58 | nodata | how i can access my remote hosting ftp account through debian linux VPS ? |
| 21:10.09 | nodata | any help ? |
| 21:10.32 | kruug | yup, set CC=gcc-4.6 and all is right with the world now... |
| 21:11.05 | nodata | Sorry ? |
| 21:11.07 | Iridos | nodata, only when you tell us what the problem is |
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| 21:11.48 | nodata | i have a hosting account , and i want to access it through my vps |
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| 21:12.19 | nodata | i want upload some files to my hosting account ftp |
| 21:12.57 | nodata | so how i can access my hosting account ftp remotely via VPS ? |
| 21:13.10 | kruug | run `ftp` from the command line? |
| 21:13.27 | nodata | root@M-A-T-E:~# ftp |
| 21:13.27 | nodata | -bash: ftp: command not found |
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| 21:13.30 | Iridos | type "ftp hosting.whaterver.com"? |
| 21:13.35 | Iridos | well, install it |
| 21:13.39 | nodata | how ? |
| 21:13.42 | kruug | `sudo apt-get install ftp` |
| 21:13.43 | babilen | Or use any of the many other ftp clients: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_FTP_client_software |
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| 21:14.09 | nodata | hmm and what command to upload files ? |
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| 21:14.29 | kruug | push |
| 21:14.37 | nodata | push what ? |
| 21:14.47 | kruug | nodata: https://www.mankier.com/1/ftp |
| 21:14.48 | kruug | push |
| 21:15.00 | nodata | push filename ftp-ip ? |
| 21:15.04 | Iridos | put, not push |
| 21:15.05 | kruug | oh, sorry. |
| 21:15.06 | kruug | put |
| 21:15.08 | Iridos | get and put |
| 21:15.10 | kruug | yyeah |
| 21:15.17 | lopho | nodata, better look at ssh, ftp is obsolete |
| 21:15.17 | kruug | too much git for me :/ |
| 21:15.22 | kruug | scp |
| 21:15.24 | babilen | Maybe a graphical client would be easier? |
| 21:15.24 | Iridos | typing "help" might also help |
| 21:15.24 | lopho | scp command to transfer |
| 21:15.32 | Iridos | babilen, inside his vps? |
| 21:15.42 | babilen | Iridos: Ah, right. Yeah. |
| 21:15.42 | kruug | babilen: I'm guessing CLI only for VPS |
| 21:15.44 | nodata | scp or put ? |
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| 21:16.02 | babilen | would burn FTP with fire |
| 21:16.08 | kruug | nodata: put for ftp |
| 21:16.14 | kruug | scp is a different thing |
| 21:16.18 | nodata | ok |
| 21:16.28 | kruug | but, ideally you'd move to scp instead |
| 21:16.29 | Iridos | lopho, it's a web hoster... they are in the 90ies, they have ftp |
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| 21:18.40 | kruug | is there a libcudart6.5 in debian? |
| 21:19.05 | nodata | i installed ftp |
| 21:19.14 | nodata | how to connect to ftp ? |
| 21:19.22 | nodata | ftp ip ? |
| 21:19.24 | kruug | ftp |
| 21:19.26 | kruug | connect |
| 21:20.11 | nodata | ftp> connect |
| 21:20.12 | nodata | ?Invalid command |
| 21:20.18 | kruug | try open |
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| 21:20.55 | nodata | ahh connected :) |
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| 21:22.44 | gkgsss | hello I am wondering how to update the kernal |
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| 21:23.40 | babilen | gkgsss: You update it like any other part of the system. Run "apt-get update" and "apt-get upgrade" (apt-get dist-upgrade) -- If you are looking for a newer kernel version then check "/msg dpkg bdo kernel" which will get you 3.16 |
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| 21:24.22 | gkgsss | what distro are you running ? |
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| 21:24.46 | babilen | gkgsss: Which channel is this? |
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| 21:25.05 | babilen | gkgsss: Which distribution are you running? |
| 21:25.14 | gkgsss | I mean are you running crunch bang or some spin of debian? |
| 21:25.30 | gkgsss | crunch bang |
| 21:25.36 | babilen | dpkg: crunch bang |
| 21:25.36 | dpkg | babilen: KCI error, or a problem with the Keyboard-Chair Interface. |
| 21:25.39 | babilen | dpkg: crunchbang |
| 21:25.39 | dpkg | CrunchBang Linux is a Live CD distribution originally based on <Ubuntu>, now based on Debian as of version 10, featuring the <Openbox> window manager. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.crunchbang.org/ #crunchbang on irc.freenode.net. See <based on debian>. |
| 21:26.02 | babilen | gkgsss: You want a different channel then. We only support Debian in here and none of its many derivatives. |
| 21:26.19 | gkgsss | okay |
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| 21:32.03 | ompaul | babilen: in order to avoid confusion you may need to know this is #debian |
| 21:32.15 | Rad- | Hey can someone tell me why 104.236.137.162/test.php works but 104.236.137.162/~mixomuse doesn't? |
| 21:32.37 | elb | Rad-: not without more information |
| 21:32.42 | ompaul | Rad-: because the web server doesn't know about your home directory |
| 21:32.46 | elb | but it sounds like you don't have mod_userdir loaded or its equivalent |
| 21:32.54 | elb | (for whatever httpd you're using) |
| 21:33.06 | Rad- | elb: what information do you need? |
| 21:33.20 | Rad- | this is my php5.conf: http://sprunge.us/jVLR |
| 21:33.22 | elb | you should start with what httpd you're using |
| 21:33.34 | elb | and then tell us what "doesn't work" means |
| 21:33.45 | Rad- | it's not prasing php in the user dir |
| 21:34.14 | elb | ok, that looks like apache |
| 21:34.19 | kruug | Rad-: what http server are you using? apache? |
| 21:34.21 | kruug | nginx? |
| 21:34.28 | ompaul | lighthttpd |
| 21:34.32 | ompaul | we could go on |
| 21:34.35 | ompaul | and on |
| 21:34.38 | jhutchins | IIS! |
| 21:34.47 | jolt | :) |
| 21:34.50 | jolt | netcat! |
| 21:34.57 | kruug | but, it is nicer when people speak english instead of Linux when conversing with humans :) |
| 21:35.03 | elb | so precisely what error do you get when you load ~mixomuse, and what did you expect? |
| 21:35.07 | Rad- | yeah apache2 |
| 21:35.19 | Rad- | elb: i except the php to parse |
| 21:35.21 | elb | I assume you have an index.php, and you expect it to be executed? |
| 21:35.35 | kruug | Rad-: a2enmod userdir |
| 21:35.42 | kruug | Rad-: a2enmod mod_userdir |
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| 21:35.49 | kruug | one of those should do it |
| 21:35.57 | Rad- | Module userdir already enabled |
| 21:35.57 | elb | oh haha |
| 21:36.00 | elb | look at the bottom of that file |
| 21:36.25 | kruug | haha...i think I see it |
| 21:36.30 | Rad- | ....oh |
| 21:36.35 | Rad- | i'm sorry. |
| 21:36.47 | elb | just comment out that block |
| 21:36.50 | elb | and you should be good |
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| 21:37.01 | elb | and then I heartily suggest using !php |
| 21:37.04 | ompaul | some reloading |
| 21:37.09 | ompaul | may help |
| 21:37.13 | kale | hi, i want to run pacemaker-corosync-haproxy combination. sad thing is haproxy is not in wheezy and pacemaker just got removed from jessie. any advice on this? |
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| 21:37.25 | elb | yeah, you'll have to service apache2 reload |
| 21:38.07 | Rad- | On the bright side it seems to parse |
| 21:38.12 | Rad- | on the not bright side i still see nothing |
| 21:38.17 | Rad- | hm |
| 21:38.26 | elb | try loading the .php script directly |
| 21:38.37 | elb | if you're relying on index.php being parsed by default |
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| 21:39.01 | Rad- | still nothing |
| 21:39.02 | yates | the debian version i'm using doesn't appear to include the g_multi kernel module (which provides the rndis/usb network interface), or at least it's not configured and/or loading correctly. are there any how-tos or pointers on that? |
| 21:39.02 | elb | and if you "see nothing", view source and see if the php has been stripped out ... if so, it's *running*, it's just not doing what you expect |
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| 21:40.51 | Rad- | yeah elb the source isjust empty. i checked. |
| 21:40.53 | Rad- | so php works. |
| 21:40.56 | Rad- | it's just not... working |
| 21:40.58 | Rad- | lol |
| 21:41.09 | abrotman | Rad-: try another browser, or use curl/wget |
| 21:41.09 | Rad- | but my original problem should be solved.. |
| 21:41.28 | elb | try loading something that doesn't do anything but print a trival test message or php info or whatever |
| 21:41.34 | Rad- | still blank |
| 21:41.44 | elb | check your error logs |
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| 21:42.11 | Rad- | er i mean i'm about to php info |
| 21:42.33 | Rad- | http://mixomuse.net/ |
| 21:42.34 | Rad- | php info works |
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| 21:43.04 | jhutchins | Rad-: First you have to have user directories configured, and pointed to the folder you're using, then that folder needs to have allow exec set on, the user the web server runs as needs to have read access to the file, and the file may need to be executable by that user. The server also has to know how to serve PHP, which is the only step you seem to have so far. |
| 21:43.47 | jhutchins | Rad-: If phpinfo works but your PHP script doesn't, try running it from the command line and see what errors you get. Could be as simple as short open tage. |
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| 21:44.07 | Rad- | one sec i used to have a www-data user. dunno what happened to it lol |
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| 21:46.43 | babilen | Rad-: Where do you have your PHP script? |
| 21:47.27 | babilen | Ah, userscript |
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| 21:49.13 | Rad- | i'ma reclone the repo one sec |
| 21:49.23 | Rad- | just for fun |
| 21:50.37 | babilen | dpkg: tell Rad- about php userdir |
| 21:52.12 | Rad- | babilen: by default you mean? |
| 21:53.34 | ompaul | Rad-: see what the bot sent you a message from dpkg |
| 21:53.38 | Rad- | meh cuz i followed this: https://wiki.debian.org/LaMp |
| 21:53.40 | babilen | Rad-: by default what? |
| 21:53.44 | babilen | dpkg: php userdir |
| 21:53.45 | dpkg | From Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" onwards, mod_php is disabled in <userdir> (public_html). See /usr/share/doc/php5-common/NEWS.Debian.gz ("mod_php disabled in userdirs") for more information. |
| 21:53.45 | Rad- | ompaul: yeah it says disabled. but can you enable it or? |
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| 21:54.37 | babilen | Rad-: Have you read the referenced file yet? |
| 21:54.45 | ompaul | Rad-: you might want to zcat that file and read the whys and wherefores |
| 21:54.46 | Rad- | working on ungz |
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| 21:55.00 | babilen | lesspipe ftw |
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| 21:55.15 | ompaul | zcat foo | less or something else |
| 21:55.25 | babilen | dpkg: lesspipe |
| 21:55.25 | dpkg | i guess lesspipe is input preprocessor for less and it allows you to view compressed files (.gz, .bz2) and even Debian packages, man lesspipe for more info, or add "eval `lesspipe`" to your shell .rc file for lots of less-related magic. Try less file.gz, file.tar.gz and more :) |
| 21:55.35 | jhutchins | Rad-: You can use tools like zless and zgrep to work with gz files without uncompressing them to disk. |
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| 21:55.45 | babilen | lesspipe! |
| 21:55.49 | ompaul | babilen: I'm old :-) |
| 21:55.59 | babilen | so am I! |
| 21:56.00 | ompaul | jhutchins: you are getting old |
| 21:56.06 | ompaul | babilen: you are a child ;-) |
| 21:56.09 | ompaul | grins |
| 21:56.11 | babilen | okay |
| 21:56.17 | jhutchins | ompaul: -er. |
| 21:56.29 | ompaul | jhutchins: I was being nice :) |
| 21:56.31 | Rad- | jhutchins: oh... |
| 21:57.21 | jhutchins | ompaul: I've admitted to loading programs from paper tape. |
| 21:57.57 | ompaul | jhutchins: I've punched cards |
| 21:58.07 | ompaul | doesn't like to remember that |
| 21:58.18 | ompaul | what was more fun |
| 21:58.34 | ompaul | was loading programs from tapes (cassette) |
| 21:59.03 | jhutchins | ompaul: That even worked some of the time! |
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| 22:00.01 | Rad- | babilen: yes and that module was commented out earlier |
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| 22:08.45 | Rad- | meh -_- the peeps want me to run from zip isntead of github |
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| 22:15.40 | Rad- | oh... php isn't logging errors |
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| 22:19.12 | Rad- | thanks guys looks like there's a php error that's not server side |
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| 22:30.15 | rainfyre | hey folks, i'm trying to grab a netinst iso for jessie but the mirror seems to be down. is there a way to manually connect to another mirror to grab that image? |
| 22:30.37 | rainfyre | this is the error i'm getting Connecting to caesar.acc.umu.se (caesar.acc.umu.se)|2001:6b0:e:2018::142|:80... failed: Network is unreachable. |
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| 22:34.31 | Iridos | rainfyre, http://hammurabi.acc.umu.se/ |
| 22:34.42 | rainfyre | Iridos: thank you! |
| 22:34.55 | Iridos | rainfyre, just trying again would probably have worked (?) |
| 22:35.16 | Iridos | rainfyre, I actually get 3 ipv4 IPs when I do host cdimage.debian.org |
| 22:37.32 | rainfyre | Iridos: i had been trying for about 15 minutes :) |
| 22:37.49 | rainfyre | Iridos: and it just hooked up to the original mirror and it's downloading jessie. yay! thank you! |
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| 22:38.34 | Iridos | remember that the testing netinst is for testing the installer... |
| 22:39.09 | rainfyre | Iridos: I forgot about that, maybe I should grab a wheezy netinst image and just upgrade |
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| 22:40.31 | themill | I'd like to think rc1 is a perfectly good installer |
| 22:40.35 | Iridos | well, it does need testing and people reporting bugs :) |
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| 22:41.23 | Iridos | else this would have been the first thing I'd have said :) |
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| 23:16.47 | felix_mc_ | anyone familiar with GTK styling markup? I'm trying to hide a window title bar |
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| 23:23.27 | boycottg00gle | felix_mc_: that would be the job of the window manager? |
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| 23:30.52 | felix_mc_ | boycottg00gle: there's a GtkStatusbar class that lets you style the status bar. I was hoping I could do something like "height = 0" but I'm really new to GTK |
| 23:31.49 | boycottg00gle | felix_mc_: the window title bar is typically produced by your window manager |
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| 23:32.44 | boycottg00gle | felix_mc_: not your gtk app |
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