| 00:03.57 | *** join/#debian Trendrrrr (~Trendrrrr@23.97.227.137) |
| 00:12.02 | *** join/#debian mariothemad (~mario@cpe-66-68-77-254.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 00:12.02 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1490] by debhelper |
| 00:14.02 | *** join/#debian ricepooding (~ricepoodi@79-68-226-148.dynamic.dsl.as9105.com) |
| 00:15.00 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@98.234.68.64) |
| 00:15.32 | *** join/#debian djbkd (~djbkd@199.227.56.229) |
| 00:15.58 | *** join/#debian ghostjangles (~ghostjang@71-47-5-4.res.bhn.net) |
| 00:20.47 | *** join/#debian GhostInTheShell (~melkor@chaosgate.angband.eu) |
| 00:21.42 | *** join/#debian paragon (~paragon@73.12.11.95) |
| 00:22.59 | *** join/#debian Latrina (~Latrina@ppp-90-5.26-151.libero.it) |
| 00:22.59 | n2diy | My install is stalled at configuring package manager, "bad archive mirror." I suspect this is because the wifi card hasn't be configured yet? Should I just abort this install and start over with the box cabled to the router, or is there a better option/ |
| 00:27.10 | *** join/#debian wyre (~wyre@81.172.88.157.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 00:28.06 | *** join/#debian GhostInTheShell (~melkor@chaosgate.angband.eu) |
| 00:29.11 | *** join/#debian it0a (~it0a@cpe-66-61-109-178.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 00:30.08 | *** join/#debian alskdj (~androirc@186-45-131-8.dynamic.tstt.net.tt) |
| 00:32.20 | jordila | Hi, Debian Jessie trying to downgrade PHP 5.6 packages onto Wheezy stable ones (PHP 5.4 ) using 'pinning' |
| 00:33.18 | *** join/#debian bluenemo_ (~bluenemo@unaffiliated/bluenemo) |
| 00:33.30 | *** join/#debian macrobat (~beep@h-39-187.a328.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 00:33.43 | jordila | following https://pad.riseup.net/p/pinningdebianjessiephp step by step ... with no joy, any hints will be more than welcomed ! thanks |
| 00:34.52 | *** part/#debian kruug (~kruug@unaffiliated/kruug) |
| 00:35.04 | OSVG | You may want to check with #debiannext since you're running Jessie. |
| 00:35.08 | *** join/#debian orkim (orkim@unaffiliated/orkim) |
| 00:36.01 | jordila | thanks OSVG |
| 00:37.36 | macrobat | there is #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
| 00:38.37 | macrobat | I haven't pinned packages in a while. isn't 700 too low priority? I used 1001 |
| 00:38.38 | *** join/#debian Starduster (~guest@5ED11658.cm-7-2a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 00:38.43 | *** join/#debian kaiten (~smi@a91-153-189-179.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 00:38.52 | *** join/#debian Starduster (~guest@unaffiliated/starduster) |
| 00:39.22 | jordila | thanks macrobat, i'll try with 1001 ... and/or get around #debian-next |
| 00:39.30 | *** join/#debian dvs (~colin@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 00:41.47 | *** join/#debian felix_mc (~unknown@c-98-202-172-162.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 00:43.00 | hikenboot | noone is around in #chrome so i will ask in the case this is a debian issue with chromium. I can't see NaCl in order to enable it...it is a an extension but when i run any programs for it it says to go under plugins and enable it.. is there a dependency i am missing for NaCl that chromium needs? thanks |
| 00:45.57 | *** join/#debian Ratboy (~ratboy@essn-d9bb43bf.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 00:46.19 | *** join/#debian Gaxpazo (~bizarro_1@100.Red-83-47-133.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 00:47.43 | *** join/#debian Ad1_RnR (~adrian@aayd174.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 00:48.44 | jordila | macrobat , as per your suggestion ... incresasing pinning priority made a difference ! |
| 00:49.54 | macrobat | ok, good. maybe things won't work forever if you run two different releases |
| 00:50.07 | *** join/#debian badiane_ka (~gdurand@cpe-24-193-80-159.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 00:50.40 | jordila | mmh it's not working though, yet |
| 00:51.15 | jordila | (complete updated log https://pad.riseup.net/p/pinningdebianjessiephp here ) |
| 00:51.38 | jordila | seems that i have unmet dependencies... :-/ |
| 00:52.11 | xreal | frostschutz: Do you think it's faster to install the system on a degraded RAID-1 (with 1 instead of 3 disks) faster than installing it to the actual RAID-1? |
| 00:53.29 | *** join/#debian chatsiri_ (~chatsiri_@119-46-191-20.static.asianet.co.th) |
| 00:54.00 | *** join/#debian ryouma (~user@ip68-226-110-213.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 00:54.05 | macrobat | jordila: there's probably a whole tree of dependencies, if you pin those other packages it wants, there might be others |
| 00:55.28 | jordila | macrobat i don't get it... |
| 00:55.32 | macrobat | idk, it could theoretically be most of your installed packages. running old servers is less safe, anyway |
| 00:56.16 | macrobat | libapache2-mod-php5 and php5-readline want older packages that they depend upon |
| 00:57.48 | macrobat | also, some of the packages you want will be in conflict with the packages you already have |
| 00:58.37 | *** join/#debian paragon (~paragon@73.12.11.95) |
| 00:58.57 | *** join/#debian bit1 (~josea@61.Red-80-24-119.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 00:59.58 | *** join/#debian fev3r101 (~fev3r101@116.251.214.209) |
| 01:00.12 | jordila | so i've screwed my local GLAMP stack ? yay! mmmh... may i downgrade from Jessie to Wheezy to solve it ? |
| 01:00.49 | *** join/#debian fstd (~fstd@unaffiliated/fisted) |
| 01:00.56 | dvs | !downgrading |
| 01:00.56 | dpkg | Downgrading is not, nor will ever be supported by apt. Programs change their data in a way that can't be rolled back, and package maintainer scripts support upgrades to new config file formats but not downgrades. Try: "dpkg -i olderversion.deb" or "aptitude install package=version" using "apt-cache policy package" to get the old version number. See also <partial downgrade>, <unstable->testing>, <sdo>. |
| 01:01.06 | *** join/#debian gusnan (~gusnan@s213-100-228-162.cust.tele2.se) |
| 01:01.20 | OSVG | offhand jordila, will your stuff riding the CLAMP not work in Jessie? |
| 01:01.34 | OSVG | Because given that you've already updated it may be easier to use Jessie's packages. |
| 01:01.59 | xreal | Can mdadm do raid level 1E ? |
| 01:02.10 | jeezy | sydney: check out my cable tv channel http://i.imgur.com/chNIPfh.jpg // suppose to be local news channel, no wonder it is acting up all week (fedora) |
| 01:02.17 | jeezy | lol |
| 01:02.21 | jordila | good question OSVG ! ... |
| 01:02.56 | *** join/#debian SOUL_OF_R00T (~leo@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) |
| 01:03.18 | *** join/#debian dtcrshr (~datacrush@unaffiliated/datacrusher) |
| 01:03.36 | jordila | OSVG , maybe i am being too strict (o senseless) trying to keep local dev (Jessie) and production server (Wheezy) stacks aligned ? :-/ |
| 01:04.35 | OSVG | jordila: Perhaps? That would depend entirely on what you're trying to do as to whether the differences would really effect anything...however if you updated local development and something did change that you needed to patch. |
| 01:04.46 | OSVG | You could likely backport the production environment for that specific package. |
| 01:05.06 | OSVG | Though I do advise keeping dev and prod servers identical under most scenarios. |
| 01:05.08 | sydney | jeezy: :P |
| 01:05.13 | sydney | Whats fedora doing there? |
| 01:05.28 | sydney | Yeah, i run Fedora21 LXDE on my laptop. |
| 01:06.34 | jeezy | sydney: i guess that is what the news station/cable people run |
| 01:06.45 | jeezy | it is on channel 8 |
| 01:07.02 | sydney | Im suprised! Wow, if only you could hook a keyboard to that :P |
| 01:07.09 | sydney | hack... :P |
| 01:07.12 | jeezy | hehe yeah |
| 01:07.19 | jeezy | i think they are broadcasting that tty |
| 01:07.39 | jeezy | i dont believe it is accessible through this cable box |
| 01:07.47 | jeezy | sydney: be right back; cooked some fish and rice -- going to eat now |
| 01:07.54 | sydney | :) |
| 01:08.07 | sydney | Sometihng broke on that machine :P |
| 01:08.42 | *** join/#debian djbkd (~djbkd@199.227.56.229) |
| 01:09.02 | *** join/#debian galex-713 (~user@2a02-8428-00c4-a300-1c3f-a524-ced3-f5c6.rev.sfr.net) |
| 01:12.08 | *** join/#debian kamori (~kamori@107-138-209-26.lightspeed.snantx.sbcglobal.net) |
| 01:14.27 | *** join/#debian mentor (~mentor@unaffiliated/mentor) |
| 01:15.23 | *** join/#debian knosys (~knosys@unaffiliated/knosys) |
| 01:18.28 | *** join/#debian Marko_ (Marko@dynamic-92-244-155-59.cpe.vektor.net) |
| 01:22.24 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@98.234.68.64) |
| 01:23.05 | *** join/#debian kruug (~kruug@unaffiliated/kruug) |
| 01:24.01 | *** join/#debian tsukamoto (~tsukamoto@gateway/tor-sasl/tsukamoto) |
| 01:24.57 | *** join/#debian aschro (~aschro@ipservice-092-217-133-044.092.217.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 01:25.03 | *** join/#debian delsvr (~delsvr@cpe-72-229-96-46.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 01:25.38 | *** join/#debian kamori__|Home (~kamori@107-138-209-26.lightspeed.snantx.sbcglobal.net) |
| 01:27.34 | *** join/#debian Toxo (~El3ktra@unaffiliated/toxo) |
| 01:27.41 | *** join/#debian edjix (~edjix@104-52-97-5.lightspeed.rcsntx.sbcglobal.net) |
| 01:28.16 | *** join/#debian El3ktra (~El3ktra@unaffiliated/el3ktra) |
| 01:28.38 | nebbia | hi everyone can somebody tell me which are good courses, books, guides to learn to use linux ? |
| 01:29.49 | *** part/#debian bootstrappm (~frank@186.64.108.186) |
| 01:31.28 | nkuttler | nebbia: the install guide has some pointers at the end, and /msg dpkg grounding |
| 01:32.02 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1480] by debhelper |
| 01:35.26 | *** join/#debian onorua (~onorua@49.146.169.210) |
| 01:37.32 | Latrina | nebbia with learning linux are you referring to the kernel itself that is building your own one, patching, scheduling, drivers and so on? |
| 01:37.57 | Latrina | or perhaps you meant you want a book on a specif distro rather?? |
| 01:38.06 | Latrina | just to be clear .. |
| 01:38.42 | *** part/#debian kaiten (~smi@a91-153-189-179.elisa-laajakaista.fi) |
| 01:42.18 | *** part/#debian Latrina (~Latrina@ppp-90-5.26-151.libero.it) |
| 01:43.01 | n2diy | My install is stalled at configuring package manager, "bad archive mirror." I suspect this is because the wifi card hasn't be configured yet? Should I just abort this install and start over with the box cabled to the router, or is there a better option/ |
| 01:45.08 | tofu | try a differnt mirror |
| 01:46.16 | n2diy | tofu, I tried dozens, same results. |
| 01:46.43 | tofu | eh, try it wired then. dont need to abort install, just plug her in and go back to the network config bit |
| 01:47.05 | tofu | make sure you have a dhcp server running on the network too |
| 01:47.31 | *** join/#debian joeyc (~joey@208.87.154.80) |
| 01:47.46 | n2diy | tofu, Tried that too, no joy, let me double check the dhcp server. |
| 01:47.52 | tofu | wifi on linux can be...involved |
| 01:48.13 | tofu | are you using some strange machine or do you have standard realtek/broadcom/intel nics |
| 01:48.20 | OSVG | Is it a netinst iso or a full install? |
| 01:48.51 | n2diy | tofu, dhcp server is running. |
| 01:49.13 | tofu | well, sounds like you dont have the right modules for your nics to work then |
| 01:49.32 | n2diy | tofu, roger that, I'll start over from scratch. |
| 01:49.49 | tofu | you using live cd? |
| 01:49.56 | n2diy | tofu, yes. |
| 01:50.04 | tofu | 7.8? |
| 01:50.11 | n2diy | 7.5 |
| 01:50.21 | tofu | try a 7.8 |
| 01:50.42 | tofu | you have a network connection in live mode? |
| 01:51.03 | *** join/#debian bubak (~martin@178.77.226.235) |
| 01:51.37 | n2diy | tofu, didn't check the connection in live mode. I'll retry, if no joy I'll burn a 7.8 disk and try that. |
| 01:52.03 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1472] by debhelper |
| 01:52.30 | *** join/#debian Gazpaxxo (~bizarro_1@160.Red-79-158-46.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 01:55.50 | *** join/#debian cladmatter (~cladmatte@72-184-81-158.res.bhn.net) |
| 01:56.09 | *** join/#debian O00O (~O00O@unaffiliated/zz0) |
| 01:57.52 | *** join/#debian smw_ (~smw@unaffiliated/smw) |
| 01:58.37 | smw_ | I am making yet another apt repo maker. What is the name of the file format used by the Packages file? |
| 01:58.46 | smw_ | Is there a place I can find a spec for it? |
| 01:59.15 | smw_ | https://wiki.debian.org/RepositoryFormat doesn't mention it and just talks about the required fields assuming you know how to implement such fields |
| 02:01.36 | *** join/#debian weld (~weld@p5488DCE6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 02:04.12 | *** join/#debian Ard1t (~Ardit@109.69.5.107) |
| 02:04.12 | *** join/#debian Ard1t (~Ardit@unaffiliated/ard1t) |
| 02:05.18 | hikenboot | noone is around in #chrome so i will ask in the case this is a debian issue with chromium. I can't see NaCl in order to enable it...it is a an extension but when i run any programs for it it says to go under plugins and enable it.. is there a dependency i am missing for NaCl that chromium needs? thanks |
| 02:08.00 | knosys | hey guys, when i try to run an application this way ./nameOfFile , and bash say that doesnt find the file, even when it is there... That could be because i386 packages mission in my OS? |
| 02:08.07 | knosys | missing* not mission lol |
| 02:09.10 | *** join/#debian kkkware (~yaaic@london.way2stars.net) |
| 02:09.59 | OSVG | knosys: If you type the full path to the file does it run? |
| 02:10.17 | knosys | how to do it? with sh? |
| 02:10.30 | knosys | sorry i know thats pretty basic, but im newbie |
| 02:10.44 | OSVG | What, exactly, are you trying to run? |
| 02:11.06 | OSVG | Just for reference, ./filename requires you to be in the folder that the file is in. |
| 02:11.18 | knosys | shyes i was in the folder |
| 02:11.30 | knosys | anyway, running it with sh fullpath, it show different errors |
| 02:11.42 | OSVG | what do you mean sh fullpath? |
| 02:11.49 | OSVG | And what error is it? |
| 02:11.52 | *** join/#debian Arahael_Twin (~Arahael@CPE-58-166-72-243.lnse5.cht.bigpond.net.au) |
| 02:12.00 | Arahael_Twin | What's the most user-friendly way to archive emails? |
| 02:12.07 | knosys | sh /home/myuser/programDir/programExec |
| 02:12.19 | OSVG | why are you typing sh in front of it? |
| 02:12.26 | knosys | ELF not found |
| 02:12.44 | Arahael_Twin | I've got someone who has like, GB's of emails in "Archive_<year>" imap folders. I'd like to be able to truely archive them into a .zip file that they can go through at their lesure. |
| 02:12.46 | knosys | because if im not in the same dir, i cant do ./ to execute , right? |
| 02:12.53 | OSVG | Yes. |
| 02:12.53 | Arahael_Twin | *leisure |
| 02:13.13 | knosys | isnt the same ./ than sh? i mean, they both executes , right? |
| 02:13.36 | Arahael_Twin | knosys: typing 'sh' runs the program (which is, sh.) |
| 02:13.43 | OSVG | So instead of './filename' then you can type /home/username/programDir/programExec |
| 02:13.47 | *** join/#debian MarcoZink (~marcozink@189.249.148.191) |
| 02:14.09 | Arahael_Twin | knosys: You may optionally specify arguments, such as the name of the file you want the program to execute, or display, or whatever. In sh's case, it will interpret the files indicated. |
| 02:14.26 | knosys | really OSVG ? i can just say the name of the file? without sh keyword before? |
| 02:14.39 | Arahael_Twin | knosys: so, "sh foo" will run sh, and then instruct it to interpret 'foo'. |
| 02:14.45 | OSVG | To be clear, ./ is a way of forcing things to execute, ./ is a shortening of the full path. |
| 02:15.09 | knosys | I see |
| 02:15.16 | Arahael_Twin | knosys: Running ./foo, however, actually executes foo directly. The kernel looks at the file, and determines that it is a script, and runs the script accordingly. |
| 02:15.19 | knosys | so sh is execute |
| 02:15.21 | *** join/#debian arquebus (~shintaro@c-76-103-213-5.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 02:15.23 | knosys | and the naem of the program its a parameter |
| 02:15.24 | OSVG | No. |
| 02:15.27 | OSVG | sh is a program. |
| 02:15.31 | *** join/#debian sandman13 (~sandman@202.51.86.94) |
| 02:15.32 | knosys | yes |
| 02:15.38 | OSVG | if you type "sh" it will run the program "sh" |
| 02:15.40 | knosys | and it execute other programs |
| 02:15.42 | OSVG | No. |
| 02:15.46 | OSVG | it executes sh |
| 02:15.55 | Arahael_Twin | knosys: Typing 'sh' to execute a file is one way of thinking about it, however it will only execute files that have been written using the sh language. |
| 02:16.12 | Arahael_Twin | knosys: Using 'sh' to execute a file that has been written in, for example, python, will be an error. |
| 02:16.15 | knosys | i see. Its Shell right' |
| 02:16.16 | knosys | =? |
| 02:16.18 | OSVG | the program sh is a shell. |
| 02:16.30 | knosys | right |
| 02:16.35 | knosys | i was wrong about it |
| 02:16.36 | OSVG | If the program is a shell script written in the sh syntax, sh will execute that script. |
| 02:16.44 | WilliamDotAT | sh will also work if the shebang liune is set correctly |
| 02:16.49 | WilliamDotAT | as it will execute python then |
| 02:16.50 | *** join/#debian greenbagels (~gb@cpe-65-25-124-183.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 02:16.52 | *** join/#debian sidmo (~sidmo@p5489EA64.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 02:16.54 | Arahael_Twin | knosys: sh is one variant of what we call "shell", there are many others. (bash, dash, ksh, zsh, etcetera) |
| 02:16.55 | WilliamDotAT | or whatever |
| 02:17.05 | Arahael_Twin | WilliamDotAT: That's a detail, and probably depends on the sh in question. |
| 02:17.08 | OSVG | However you would want to just run the program. |
| 02:17.19 | OSVG | which is /home/username/programDir/programExec |
| 02:17.34 | knosys | nice to learn about everything in the way |
| 02:17.51 | OSVG | Or, you can do cd /home/username/programDir/ && ./programExec |
| 02:17.54 | knosys | " no such file or directory " |
| 02:18.01 | knosys | is the error output ive got |
| 02:18.11 | OSVG | When you run it using the full path? |
| 02:18.17 | knosys | yes |
| 02:18.26 | knosys | i use tab , so it couldnt be misspelled |
| 02:18.30 | OSVG | Then either your file does not exist or you do not have permissions to read and execute it. |
| 02:18.45 | knosys | probably permission thing then |
| 02:18.46 | knosys | ill check it out |
| 02:18.47 | OSVG | If tabcomplete found the file, then you need to check your permissions. |
| 02:18.51 | *** join/#debian Haswell (~Haswell@142.83-213-161.dynamic.clientes.euskaltel.es) |
| 02:18.52 | *** join/#debian Haswell (~Haswell@unaffiliated/haswell) |
| 02:18.53 | knosys | but is inside home and i am the owner.. |
| 02:19.01 | OSVG | It may not have execute. |
| 02:19.19 | knosys | chmod +x would do the job right? |
| 02:19.25 | knosys | what would be in numbers? |
| 02:19.27 | knosys | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:19.32 | OSVG | 755 |
| 02:19.40 | knosys | thanks |
| 02:20.22 | knosys | Permissions is not the poblem |
| 02:21.04 | knosys | I think 32 libs are required to run this |
| 02:21.45 | *** join/#debian James_T (james@nimbus.for-no-reason.net) |
| 02:23.22 | *** join/#debian arquebus (~shintaro@c-76-103-213-5.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 02:23.58 | *** join/#debian febre (~febre@187.65.154.86) |
| 02:25.10 | *** join/#debian dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) |
| 02:26.08 | *** join/#debian bnw (~bnw@183.17.157.30) |
| 02:28.10 | *** join/#debian bob1923476 (~alex@192.80.6.29) |
| 02:28.36 | bob1923476 | when using pptp client I'm getting an error message: LCP: timeout sending Config-requests connection terminated... any ideas?\ |
| 02:28.36 | bob1923476 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:28.36 | bob1923476 | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:29.51 | *** join/#debian BWMerlin (~Thunderbi@142.45.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) |
| 02:31.55 | *** join/#debian cmhobbs (~cmhobbs@ip98-186-66-92.fv.ks.cox.net) |
| 02:31.55 | *** join/#debian cmhobbs (~cmhobbs@fsf/member/cmhobbs) |
| 02:32.17 | *** join/#debian kkvlk (~kkvlk@r167-57-29-198.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 02:32.52 | *** join/#debian pet2001_ (~peter@p54838EAA.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 02:33.16 | *** join/#debian iWaldo (~iWaldo@63-152-177-2.stcd.qwest.net) |
| 02:33.57 | *** join/#debian DaniGemini (~DaniGemin@79.114.126.247) |
| 02:34.25 | *** join/#debian alipoor90 (~ali@46.224.220.195) |
| 02:34.40 | Arahael_Twin | So I'm looking at ways to archive my emails. |
| 02:34.58 | alipoor90 | Hi, do systemd is enabled by default on debian? |
| 02:35.00 | Arahael_Twin | So far I only know of fetchmail itself, and archivemail, though the latter doesn't seem to be maintained. |
| 02:35.37 | *** join/#debian Duststorm_ (~Duststorm@ip-83-101-29-56.customer.schedom-europe.net) |
| 02:35.58 | *** join/#debian sydney (~sydney@199.96.49.160) |
| 02:35.58 | *** join/#debian sydney (~sydney@unaffiliated/sydney) |
| 02:36.56 | bob1923476 | Anybody know about PPTP VPN connections? Trying to find a way to connect from the command line but after setting everything up according to the official guide I run pon and it doesn't work. Connections fails and it hangs up |
| 02:38.03 | *** join/#debian Ericx2x (~textual@209-6-40-131.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com) |
| 02:38.58 | *** part/#debian alipoor90 (~ali@46.224.220.195) |
| 02:39.20 | *** join/#debian tripelb (~tripelb@131.179.104.200) |
| 02:41.13 | jolt | bob1923476: enable logging on ppp, it's very kinky about exact configuration and encryption settings |
| 02:42.02 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1480] by debhelper |
| 02:42.03 | tripelb | anyone in here. I am trying to install bittorent and I do some command that starts with sh -c '$(curl -gsSL.... and I need an additional package repository and do I wish to continue. I say y and NOTHING HAPPENS??? |
| 02:42.36 | tripelb | I am deeply baffled. |
| 02:46.20 | n2diy | tofu, got past my mirror issue with 7.5. I think the problem was using the wifi card during the install, unstead of the ethernet. |
| 02:47.09 | SirLagz | tripelb: why not just apt-get install bittorrent ? |
| 02:47.31 | jolt | or rtorrent, but anyway |
| 02:49.02 | bob1923476 | jolt: I just googled but didn't see what you mean. I had it do a dump and yes it does seem to terminate the connection right after sending the Config-Requests. What do I do to get a more detailed report? |
| 02:50.14 | *** join/#debian febre (~febre@187.65.154.86) |
| 02:51.16 | *** join/#debian mroe (~roe@unaffiliated/roe) |
| 02:52.28 | *** join/#debian syssi (~syssi@p5DE8C2CC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 02:53.57 | *** join/#debian James_T (james@nimbus.for-no-reason.net) |
| 02:54.42 | *** join/#debian mutual (~mutual@unaffiliated/mutual) |
| 02:55.56 | *** join/#debian phaer (~phaer@chello080109090232.4.15.wu-wien.teleweb.at) |
| 03:05.22 | *** join/#debian l3lu3 (~l3lu3@unaffiliated/l3lu3) |
| 03:08.13 | *** join/#debian mypapit (~mypapit@175.140.7.16) |
| 03:09.21 | *** join/#debian Yoshi11 (~yoshi@dsl-173-206-92-231.tor.primus.ca) |
| 03:09.25 | *** join/#debian k2gremlin (~Gremlin@ip70-179-139-167.fv.ks.cox.net) |
| 03:12.02 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1470] by debhelper |
| 03:12.03 | *** join/#debian Nnel (~Nnel@host217-39-14-122.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 03:12.43 | *** join/#debian Ciph3r (~Cyph3r@96-40-173-182.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com) |
| 03:13.07 | *** join/#debian paragon (~paragon@73.12.11.95) |
| 03:13.50 | *** join/#debian yeticry (~yeticry@124.113.168.48) |
| 03:15.14 | *** join/#debian nislova (kvirc@5.144.74.10) |
| 03:15.52 | *** join/#debian Ciph3r (~Cyph3r@96-40-173-182.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com) |
| 03:20.44 | *** part/#debian danlamanna (~dan@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/danlamanna) |
| 03:21.01 | *** join/#debian etech3 (~etech3@d-69-161-102-147.cpe.metrocast.net) |
| 03:21.44 | tripelb | SirLagz, maybe I didnt do that. So I will. Hope you are still here. so I will -- sudo apt-get install bittorrent (Debian 7) |
| 03:22.10 | SirLagz | tripelb: there's a range of bittorrent clients on debian |
| 03:23.14 | tripelb | it says UNABLE TO LOCATE PACKAGE BITTORRENT and I have been flailing at finding and installing repositories. some command like sh -? 'culr bla bla -- ends up doing nothing after I anslwer Y<ret> |
| 03:23.31 | SirLagz | tripelb: i hope you haven't enabled any old random repos... |
| 03:23.49 | tripelb | any of them would be fine. I have spent about 45 minutes on this. I feel "manque" |
| 03:24.13 | tripelb | I may have but I dont know how to undo that. |
| 03:24.16 | SirLagz | tripelb: do you want a gui client ? |
| 03:24.47 | *** join/#debian method_ (~method@athedsl-27256.home.otenet.gr) |
| 03:24.48 | tripelb | yes I do. |
| 03:24.57 | tripelb | I think I installed this one --- sh -c "$(curl -fsSL http://debian.yeasoft.net/add-btsync-repository.sh)" |
| 03:25.18 | SirLagz | tripelb: that sounds like it's for btsync and not bittorrent. |
| 03:25.25 | SirLagz | tripelb: do you want btsync or bittorrent ? |
| 03:25.32 | *** join/#debian method_ (~method@pdpc/supporter/active/method-) |
| 03:25.37 | *** join/#debian metasansana (~master@unaffiliated/metasansana) |
| 03:25.48 | tripelb | I also have a duplicate as in this --- (wait, can I search for a string in a Terminal Window?) |
| 03:26.14 | tripelb | SirLagz, lets say bittorent since I have been going there. |
| 03:26.19 | *** join/#debian user_name_boxx__ (~user_name@ip-76.tagilbank.ru) |
| 03:26.22 | SirLagz | tripelb: apt-get install transmission |
| 03:26.28 | SirLagz | that will install a gui bittorrent client |
| 03:26.32 | joeyc | any one using openbox ? |
| 03:26.35 | SirLagz | joeyc: yes |
| 03:26.45 | tripelb | ((haha I started with transmission and microtorrent and ended up with bittorrent since it is the oldest and the brandname)) |
| 03:26.46 | SirLagz | tripelb: I'm assuming you come from a windows world ? |
| 03:26.46 | joeyc | got a screen shot ? |
| 03:26.52 | SirLagz | joeyc: no, sorry |
| 03:27.05 | SirLagz | joeyc: my openbox box is at work |
| 03:27.12 | tripelb | I came from before windows, from dos lol |
| 03:27.14 | joeyc | what u use for desktop |
| 03:27.20 | *** join/#debian Synthead (~Sandbread@c-67-182-139-37.hsd1.wa.comcast.net) |
| 03:27.23 | SirLagz | joeyc: XFCE on most of mine |
| 03:27.35 | tripelb | I have used ubuntu since 6 but .... learn a little use a lot. |
| 03:27.47 | SirLagz | tripelb: ah i see |
| 03:27.52 | joeyc | sirlagz on jessie ? |
| 03:28.05 | SirLagz | joeyc: i have boxes on wheezy and jessie and sid :P |
| 03:28.07 | tripelb | sirlagz, I use windows when I have to. I suppose that I have used XT more than any other system. |
| 03:28.21 | *** join/#debian Xyle (~quassel@c-24-11-252-238.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 03:28.52 | Synthead | I want to install wheezy (hard float) onto an armv7 SoC module. I have an adapter for the eMMC hard I'm going to use with it, so I can copy files to it and boot. Can I install Debian onto this eMMC card from Arch Linux? |
| 03:28.55 | tripelb | Someone at an installfest put debian on this. so I thought, why not? |
| 03:29.53 | tripelb | SirLagz, this page does not exist >> This package contains the tools which are used for console-only downloading. If you want the GUI interface, install the bittorrent-gui package. |
| 03:29.53 | tripelb | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:30.23 | *** join/#debian GJdan (~dan@d154-20-235-56.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 03:30.43 | SirLagz | tripelb: you can use transmission if you want a gui client for bittorrent |
| 03:31.56 | tripelb | that would be a client I have used before |
| 03:33.36 | kruug | running `/etc/init.d/networking restart` returns `networking.serviceFailed to get D-Bus connection: No such file or directory`. Am I fubar'd? |
| 03:33.38 | tripelb | when I went to an install page there were say thirty lines of code to paste into the terminal and I baulked at all that that I didnt understand. I just googled install transmillion gui debian 7 and nothing looks useful. |
| 03:35.00 | tripelb | It is the default BitTorrent client for DebianGnome. (but do I have debian gnome. I think so but never saw those words. I have a choice of gnome or gnome-classic. I like the classic) |
| 03:35.14 | tripelb | SirLagz, |
| 03:35.40 | kruug | running anything seems to return `Failed to get D-Bus connection: No such file or directory` |
| 03:36.42 | tripelb | SirLagz, this doesnt give me anythig useful either -- It is the default BitTorrent client for DebianGnome. |
| 03:37.33 | kruug | Hmmm...google makes me think it is an issue with systemd |
| 03:37.50 | tripelb | OK I think I have to give up today |
| 03:38.21 | kruug | tripelb: what are you doing? |
| 03:39.11 | *** join/#debian Cabanossi (~Cabanossi@p50896644.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 03:40.09 | Arahael | tripelb: You're trying too hard. Just do it the easy way. And that's to use apt-get install transmission. |
| 03:40.37 | kruug | Arahael: isn't he wanting the GUI, which is `apt-get install transmission-gui`? |
| 03:41.23 | *** join/#debian akamaru (~akamaru@67.191.183.251) |
| 03:41.31 | Arahael | kruug: That'll install teh gtk version, yes. |
| 03:41.33 | *** join/#debian Ratboy (~ratboy@essn-d9bb5f18.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 03:41.46 | *** join/#debian lyonsb (~lyonsb@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/slurpymcdurpy) |
| 03:42.07 | Arahael | kruug: transmission wlil install the following: libminiupnpc5{a} libnatpmp1{a} minissdpd{a} transmission transmission-common{a} transmission-gtk{a} |
| 03:43.51 | *** join/#debian Agent_Isai (Agent_Isai@unaffiliated/agentisai/bot/isaibot) |
| 03:45.19 | *** join/#debian Agent_Isai (Agent_Isai@2604:180:1:9f::c:3) |
| 03:45.44 | SirLagz | tripelb: are you using apt-get or synaptic to install things ? |
| 03:46.14 | *** join/#debian JohnnyL (~john@ool-45782e83.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 03:46.17 | JohnnyL | what is the distro version of debian from 2000 and where can i get it? |
| 03:46.29 | SirLagz | JohnnyL: woody, and why would you want it ? |
| 03:46.42 | JohnnyL | ancient laptop from that area. |
| 03:46.46 | *** join/#debian panarama (~panarama@103.244.188.121) |
| 03:47.03 | SirLagz | JohnnyL: you could probably still install a somewhat recent distro |
| 03:47.09 | JohnnyL | ok |
| 03:47.16 | JohnnyL | it has 200 megs of ram. |
| 03:47.18 | *** join/#debian unforgiven512 (~unforgive@oxymorphone.unforgivendevelopment.com) |
| 03:47.27 | SirLagz | 200 is an odd number to have lol |
| 03:48.26 | *** join/#debian Agent_Isai (Agent_Isai@1.ipv6.servers.debian.znc.delta.agentisai.tk) |
| 03:49.06 | kruug | 64*3 is 192, rounded up it's 200 :) |
| 03:49.16 | SirLagz | lol |
| 03:49.29 | kruug | or, maybe a 128 and a 64 since laptops usually only have 2 slots |
| 03:49.36 | SirLagz | kruug: was about to say, it's probably 2 sticks :P |
| 03:49.42 | SirLagz | JohnnyL: you could probably use crunchbang on the laptop |
| 03:50.44 | kruug | ugh...I think systemd borked my VPS. Might have to nuke it and start over :( |
| 03:50.54 | epsilon | amazing we'll have 64GB RAM soon... |
| 03:51.15 | shay_shay | this is not #crunchbang |
| 03:51.16 | SirLagz | epsilon: you mean on one stick ? |
| 03:51.26 | kruug | epsilon: no, they'll skip and go to 70GB for marketing reasons :) |
| 03:51.26 | shay_shay | stay on topic please |
| 03:51.27 | epsilon | ram |
| 03:51.44 | kruug | shay_shay: he suggested it, didn't start a conversation over it :/ |
| 03:52.04 | kruug | if anything, our RAM discussion is more off-topic than #! |
| 03:52.17 | *** join/#debian Yoshi1 (~yoshi@dsl-173-206-92-231.tor.primus.ca) |
| 03:52.39 | *** part/#debian iWaldo (~iWaldo@63-152-177-2.stcd.qwest.net) |
| 03:53.17 | *** join/#debian Pici (~pici@ubuntu/member/pdpc.professional.pici) |
| 03:54.03 | JohnnyL | ha found woody on two sites, pay only. |
| 03:54.05 | shay_shay | well, dwm is written in pure C and is extremely small, you dont even need to switch distros to use it (nor openbox for that matter) |
| 03:55.18 | shay_shay | https://l3net.files.wordpress.com/2014/02/cmp-all4.png |
| 03:55.19 | *** join/#debian PryMar56 (~prymar@cpe-107-185-144-55.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 03:55.20 | *** join/#debian PryMar56 (~prymar@unaffiliated/prymar56) |
| 03:55.22 | shay_shay | sorted by memory usage |
| 03:56.45 | Arahael | Guys, don't forget about video memory! A lot of systems take that out of main memory. |
| 03:57.05 | shay_shay | anyways maybe its time to send that thing to the landfill |
| 03:57.16 | cheapie_ | Huh, I'm surprised Fluxbox takes that much. |
| 03:57.22 | cheapie_ | Still my preferred WM, though. |
| 03:57.43 | shay_shay | well still kde is not taking a lot |
| 03:57.50 | shay_shay | so its all splitting hairs to me |
| 03:58.08 | SirLagz | JohnnyL: I might still have a Woody ISO around still lol |
| 04:00.34 | shay_shay | JohnnyL: why do you want an old version? |
| 04:01.15 | cheapie_ | Have you tried http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/ yet? |
| 04:01.38 | tripelb | SirLagz, I use apt-get. even in Ubuntu but I am in Debian now. I never could make synaptic work. It didnt make a lot of sense. Ubuntu now has "software center" instead. |
| 04:02.03 | cheapie_ | tripelb: What's wrong with it? |
| 04:02.58 | kruug | cheapie_: why no Debian 0, 1, or 2 |
| 04:03.01 | JohnnyL | where can i get woody(not vitalis ;] )? |
| 04:03.14 | cheapie_ | kruug: No idea. |
| 04:03.45 | kruug | JohnnyL: see cheapie_'s comment |
| 04:03.56 | kruug | JohnnyL: http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/ |
| 04:04.08 | JohnnyL | thank you kruug! |
| 04:04.14 | *** join/#debian paragon (~paragon@73.12.11.95) |
| 04:04.26 | cheapie_ | JohnnyL: You *probably* want this one: http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/archive/3.0_r6/i386/iso-cd/debian-30r6-i386-binary-1.iso |
| 04:04.40 | JohnnyL | SirLagz: got it thank you. sorry for the lag! ;) |
| 04:05.03 | kruug | JohnnyL: thank cheapie_ |
| 04:05.06 | SirLagz | JohnnyL: no problems |
| 04:05.29 | kruug | How can I fix `Failed to get D-Bus connection: No such file or directory`? |
| 04:05.31 | cheapie_ | really needs to fix that underscore in his name |
| 04:05.41 | kruug | agrees with cheapie_ |
| 04:05.49 | cheapie | There, much better. |
| 04:05.53 | kruug | approves of cheapie's name change |
| 04:06.15 | cheapie | That's what I'm called everywhere else, from #minetest on InchraNet to #debian on OFTC. |
| 04:06.20 | *** join/#debian a938sx (~a938sx@124x35x55x52.ap124.ftth.ucom.ne.jp) |
| 04:06.42 | kruug | ooo...MineTest. Better than Minecraft, not as good as FTB :) |
| 04:07.08 | SirLagz | FTB? |
| 04:07.17 | cheapie | has never heard of "FTB" |
| 04:07.40 | *** join/#debian pretodor (~pretodor@124x35x55x52.ap124.ftth.ucom.ne.jp) |
| 04:07.52 | kruug | Feed The Beast. It's a set of modpacks with a launcher, similar to Technic and ATLauncher |
| 04:08.04 | kruug | http://www.feed-the-beast.com/ |
| 04:08.07 | cheapie | And yes, I do play Minetest quite a bit (on Debian... yes, that was a half-hearted attempt to make this vaguely on-topic). |
| 04:08.49 | SirLagz | kruug: ah nice |
| 04:08.54 | *** join/#debian rawDawg (~rawDawg@cpe-76-188-27-72.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 04:09.35 | *** join/#debian Al3xG0 (buga@192.111.146.34) |
| 04:09.38 | *** join/#debian Al3xG0 (buga@unaffiliated/al3xg0) |
| 04:10.24 | *** join/#debian mixomathoze (~mixomatho@188.40-200-80.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 04:12.02 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1464] by debhelper |
| 04:14.01 | *** join/#debian tmh1999 (~tmh1999@gateway/tor-sasl/tmh1999) |
| 04:15.17 | *** join/#debian knosys_ (~knosys@46.222.223.150) |
| 04:16.32 | *** join/#debian OsugiSakae (~quassel@2602:306:cf0b:68c0:548d:6514:f5ef:a235) |
| 04:17.40 | *** join/#debian handygandy (~handygand@adsl-76-193-161-0.dsl.chcgil.sbcglobal.net) |
| 04:17.41 | sydney | Hello jeezy. How are you today? |
| 04:18.13 | kruug | How can I fix `Failed to get D-Bus connection: No such file or directory`? |
| 04:19.03 | *** join/#debian kkvlk (~kkvlk@r167-57-11-119.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 04:19.35 | *** join/#debian alexei___ (~amgarchin@p4FD63B91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 04:20.07 | *** join/#debian gusnan (~gusnan@s213-100-228-162.cust.tele2.se) |
| 04:20.22 | smw_ | Is there any spec on the format of debian control files? Not talking about the fields, just how fields are constructed |
| 04:22.02 | kruug | yep, I'm thinking the wheezy->jessie upgrade path using apt-get isn't ready for primetime. |
| 04:23.28 | sydney | kruug: Its not. :-/ ive yet to have it work sucessfully myself. |
| 04:25.42 | kruug | Hmmm...I wonder if I should continue debuging or just have the VPS provider blow away this instance and spin up a Jessie instance for me. |
| 04:26.10 | *** join/#debian infinity0 (~infinity0@freenet/developer/infinity0) |
| 04:31.00 | *** join/#debian pretodor (~pretodor@124x35x55x52.ap124.ftth.ucom.ne.jp) |
| 04:38.35 | *** join/#debian skribblezatcha (~skribblez@unaffiliated/pencilandpaper) |
| 04:38.49 | *** part/#debian skribblezatcha (~skribblez@unaffiliated/pencilandpaper) |
| 04:40.15 | tripelb | cheapie, hi. I have a debian 7 install and I cant figure out how to install a gui torrent program. I am an advanced beginner in terminal and always use it for install (sudo apt-get) but mostly have been an Ubuntu gal. |
| 04:41.26 | tripelb | cheapie, I somehow cant add the repository. this homepage doesnt seem to exist today. >> bitconjurer.org/BitTorrent/ |
| 04:41.27 | somiaj | tripelb: do you have a paticular torrent program you want to use, debian provides various options. |
| 04:41.51 | cheapie | tripelb: Have you tried just installing something like Transmission? |
| 04:41.51 | tripelb | I dont. I have been trying with transmission utorrent and bittorent |
| 04:42.03 | somiaj | tripelb: on debian you should be really careful about third party repos, lots of times they are not made for debian (but for ubuntu). Are y ou sure there isn't a torrent program you like already in debian? |
| 04:42.03 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1457] by debhelper |
| 04:42.26 | *** join/#debian hele (~hele@82-181-29-117.bb.dnainternet.fi) |
| 04:42.28 | tripelb | ok lets do this. tell me how to do it. I found a page with 30some lines of cli to do that I didnt understand. |
| 04:43.11 | kruug | tripelb: `sudo apt-get install transmission transmission-qt` |
| 04:43.15 | somiaj | tripelb: if you like gtk apps, 'apt-get install transmision-gtk' should give you want you want |
| 04:43.20 | tripelb | well well, something seems to be installing. I didnt look it up again I just did apt-get |
| 04:43.25 | somiaj | if you like qt aps, use kruug's advice |
| 04:43.26 | kruug | >.> |
| 04:43.57 | tripelb | I didnt do the transmission-qt at the end. how will that effect it kruug |
| 04:44.08 | kruug | tripelb: https://wiki.debian.org/BitTorrent/Transmission |
| 04:44.27 | somiaj | debian as lots of torrent programs available, I don't use any so I can't attest to the one I like, but I would usually try to look for software (or alternative software) from teh main debian repo than using third party repos until you get a better understanding how to mix software from outside of debians repo (which provides thousands of packages) |
| 04:44.28 | kruug | transmission-qt is a GUI front-end so that you can use it like you would uTorrent or BitTorrent clients on Windows |
| 04:44.28 | JohnnyL | kruug: if you have a paying job for me i'd happily obtain a non cheapie label. |
| 04:44.39 | kruug | JohnnyL: ? |
| 04:44.47 | tripelb | there it is in the menu. all I h ad to do was sudo apt-get install transmission. Holy Cow! After an hour's work and asking around. |
| 04:44.54 | JohnnyL | <need work, will regexp for debian installs> :) |
| 04:45.06 | kruug | tripelb: I told you to do that hours ago... |
| 04:45.10 | kruug | hold on, let me scroll back |
| 04:45.35 | tripelb | well I missed it. THank you for then. |
| 04:45.46 | kruug | tripelb: |
| 04:45.46 | kruug | [21:40] < Arahael>| tripelb: You're trying too hard. Just do it the easy way. And that's to use apt-get install transmission. |
| 04:45.49 | kruug | [21:40] < kruug> | Arahael: isn't he wanting the GUI, which is `apt-get install transmission-gui`? |
| 04:45.53 | somiaj | tripelb: using programs like apt-cache search, you should try to just find software provided by debian (there is a ton). If you do run into a pice of software you need that debian doesn't package for you this you need to be careful about how you install. I would avoid this if you can, or come back here and ask for advise if you really want something not already packaged for debian. |
| 04:45.55 | tripelb | blows a horn and spins some pom-poms for kruug |
| 04:46.01 | kruug | Arahael and I together answered it for you |
| 04:46.09 | *** join/#debian n3ss (~n3ss___@c-174-56-156-176.hsd1.sc.comcast.net) |
| 04:46.27 | kruug | for the record, my current time is 22:46, so an hour and six minutes ago |
| 04:46.30 | kruug | you could have been done |
| 04:46.33 | kruug | if you read |
| 04:46.35 | kruug | :) |
| 04:46.50 | tripelb | somiaj I will remember that cache command. |
| 04:46.55 | Arahael | It's weird how the vast majority of people on windows don't install software from the source. |
| 04:47.07 | somiaj | tripelb: for example, 'apt-cache search bittorrent' (though you will get tons of packages) |
| 04:47.09 | Arahael | Yet they come to linux... And assume that source is the _only_ and _best_ way to do it. |
| 04:47.19 | kruug | Arahael: why would they when they can click "Next, Next, Next, Install" |
| 04:47.25 | tripelb | kruug, I was into it for a long time before that too. Let me consider that I learned more about the command line. Experience counts. |
| 04:47.31 | *** join/#debian GusBricker (~GusBricke@CPE-120-149-34-233.oirx2.lon.bigpond.net.au) |
| 04:47.37 | Arahael | kruug: "Do you want to install ASK.Toolbar and set your homepage to Ask.com?" |
| 04:47.40 | kruug | tripelb: what did you google? |
| 04:47.53 | *** join/#debian Starduster (~guest@unaffiliated/starduster) |
| 04:47.58 | kruug | Arahael: personally, I use ninite, but yes, that's the generally accepted practice :) |
| 04:48.09 | somiaj | tripelb: the lesson you should learn here is less about 'comand line magick' but how debian packages software for you and you should manage teh software on your system using debian packages if possible. |
| 04:48.24 | Arahael | kruug: I haven't tried that, actually. |
| 04:48.38 | kruug | tripelb: "install <program> on debian" will usually result in a good askubuntu.com or debian wiki link :) |
| 04:49.04 | somiaj | tripelb: and then the second thing, is don't install random .deb, you need to make sure the deb you have is built for debian wheezy (7), and it isn't made for another version of debian or another .deb based distro. |
| 04:49.11 | Arahael | tripelb: Just don't install an actual ubuntu .deb |
| 04:49.15 | kruug | Arahael: it's all I use. I can kick off multiple, and they'll automagically install one after the other instead of telling me "Another program is currently installing and I'm too dumb to wait" |
| 04:49.34 | kruug | Arahael: sometimes those actually work and are the only option aside from source... |
| 04:49.34 | tripelb | many things. kruug torrent client for debian, debian 7 install bittorent, same for utorrent and transmission. at the beginning I got pages with vuze and others in them and from my ubuntu and mac experience I knew those were not at all what I wanted. I have generally stuck to the three I searched for. I was surprise that the "best clients" page didnt rate them best. |
| 04:49.34 | jeezy | sydney: i am well; thank you for asking :) how are you? |
| 04:49.36 | Arahael | kruug: I find that I can get most of what I need on windows 8 by just installing git. :) |
| 04:49.53 | Arahael | kruug: (Besides, I doubt ninite itself includes visual studio and other proprietary crap I have to use) |
| 04:50.26 | kruug | Arahael: no, ninite is only free things, and very limited as they've been asked to remove certain things, like the flash installer, from their site |
| 04:50.37 | kruug | but, it's still a decent resource. https://ninite.com |
| 04:51.59 | tripelb | right. what all of you said was things I both know and try to practice but -- I was told that Debian doestn do as much for you as Ubuntu -- and I had to install sudo and other basics++ -- so I struck out for unknown territory. ++python, support sets of routines, |
| 04:52.21 | tripelb | the other day people were here in the lug room but tonight I am on my own. |
| 04:52.30 | kruug | wow...no, that's wrong |
| 04:52.50 | kruug | Debian is less hold-your-hand than Ubuntu, yes, but things are actually done sanely in Debian |
| 04:52.59 | hikenboot | well I figured out the problem with chrome...it appears one needs to install chrome beta to get nacl working so you have to use googles repo. Chromium doesnt have NaCl capability! |
| 04:53.18 | tripelb | <Arahael> thanks re the ubuntu deb. I knew that but reminders are good |
| 04:53.53 | kruug | hikenboot: why use Chrome over IceWeasel? |
| 04:54.00 | somiaj | tripelb: yea due to the choice debian gives you, it doesn't assume you want certain things. But if you install a standard desktop sudo is usually installed and configured for you. If you choose to only use a minimial install then it isn't. I personally like using a minimial install and then installing what i use. Others prefer to install a full desktop suit with lots of things configured for you. Debian can do both. |
| 04:54.00 | tripelb | somiaj Thank you for your help. That reminds me that when I see someone has answered and used my nick, I should see if more than one person answered. |
| 04:54.26 | tripelb | and you too, thanks kruug |
| 04:54.28 | sydney | jeezy: Im good :) |
| 04:55.02 | sydney | kruug: i dont know for you, but for me it doesn't "bog out" under a load. |
| 04:55.18 | sydney | But i use firefox more than chrome. |
| 04:55.28 | sydney | and chromium before gogole-chrome |
| 04:55.31 | sydney | google* |
| 04:55.31 | somiaj | kruug: I prefer chromium as firefox annoyed me for years, but since both use gtk and client side decors, I don't like either. I wish gkt had a config option to disable client side decors in the status it would le tme put my wm title bar on it (even with the extra buttons) if I want. :/ |
| 04:55.48 | kruug | gotcha, yeah, I don't use my Linux much for the browser...mainly just server stuff :) |
| 04:56.26 | somiaj | I really miss being able to window shade my browsers, :/ |
| 04:56.33 | *** join/#debian Messenger_bird (~banana@wikipedia/Antonio-Lopez) |
| 04:57.19 | Arahael | kruug: Chrome gives you flash quite easily. It's disgusting, but chrome's now almost the only way to get flash going properly. :( |
| 04:57.40 | sydney | Arahael: pepper flash runs well in chromium. |
| 04:57.57 | sydney | somiaj: Doesn't xfce do that? |
| 04:58.06 | Arahael | sydney: Less easy to setup, though, isn't it? |
| 04:58.14 | Arahael | sydney: And is it the very latest? |
| 04:58.24 | kruug | Why use Flash when HTML5 is available? |
| 04:58.29 | somiaj | sydney: problem is many gtk3 apps use client side decors and set an option that prevents window managers (or even xfce) from putting their own decors/buttons on it. |
| 04:58.41 | Arahael | kruug: I'm just the user. Ask the webdev that. |
| 04:58.42 | *** join/#debian Rusty1 (~Rusty1@cpe-74-70-74-115.nycap.res.rr.com) |
| 04:58.50 | somiaj | Arahael: not in debian, apt-get install pepperflash-nonfree (or something like that) |
| 04:59.01 | somiaj | Arahael: really pepperflash is just as easy to install in debian as adobe flash |
| 04:59.14 | sydney | Just install it and thats that. |
| 04:59.23 | sydney | It works with Chromium just fine. |
| 04:59.50 | Arahael | sydney: Nice. |
| 04:59.57 | kruug | No site worthy of visiting requires flash without offering HTML5 fall-back |
| 05:00.13 | *** join/#debian indieross (~indieross@ip70-162-239-176.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 05:00.26 | somiaj | kruug: until you work on a platform that requires flash. Which I do |
| 05:01.02 | sydney | HTML5 is fine, but i have alot of stuff that i use that needs flash. |
| 05:01.03 | somiaj | my bigest complaint about flash is adds, it should be illegle to have flash adds. I don't mind banners, but sometimes a stupid add just clobbers my browser or will start making noise at random times |
| 05:01.08 | kruug | somiaj: yeah, I shouldn't really say that. My work's clock-in/out managment website requires flash. |
| 05:01.17 | sydney | adblock in chromium. |
| 05:01.25 | sydney | The best extention there is. |
| 05:01.39 | sydney | I use it on every pc i can get my hands on :) |
| 05:01.42 | somiaj | kruug: I would peronsally wish they would get rid of flash on the platform I use, but I doubt it will happen. Eventaully someone will make a better platform and we will switch, but that isn't gonna happen soon. |
| 05:01.53 | hikenboot | kruug, I am after NaCl |
| 05:02.13 | kruug | sydney: AdBlock Plus rules |
| 05:02.14 | sydney | adblock is on amost every browser out there also. |
| 05:02.23 | sydney | kruug: +1 |
| 05:02.33 | kruug | I'm even ok with their ad-whitelist |
| 05:02.37 | sydney | adblock in firefox does the same thing. |
| 05:02.40 | somiaj | sydney: Really I don't mind seeing adds (it is how some sights make money), but one sight just annoyed me so much with their terrible flash adds I installed addblock. Then I found it funny I see the message (please white list us so we can make money) and I was like you are the reason I had to install. |
| 05:02.46 | kruug | I'm ok allowing non-obtrusive ads. |
| 05:02.47 | sydney | adblock-adblock plus. |
| 05:03.13 | sydney | :)) |
| 05:03.42 | sydney | Untange catches most of them before i see them anyways, but not youtube ads. |
| 05:03.51 | sydney | adblck takes care of those. ;) |
| 05:03.56 | sydney | And im glad of that :) |
| 05:04.11 | kruug | +1 ^ |
| 05:04.15 | jeezy | nice to hear sydney :) |
| 05:04.28 | kruug | Now if only YouTube annotations were considered ads... |
| 05:04.41 | *** join/#debian haxi__ (~quassel@anon-39-26.vpn.ipredator.se) |
| 05:04.45 | sydney | :) |
| 05:05.27 | somiaj | I can ignore things that are only visual, it's the doing somethign else and then hearing a random commercial and having to track down which tab to kill that got to me. (: |
| 05:05.50 | *** join/#debian cra1g321 (~craig@host86-183-47-170.range86-183.btcentralplus.com) |
| 05:05.53 | sydney | lol :) I hate that. |
| 05:06.06 | somiaj | but I'm gonna be the topic police, and say we should get back on topic for debian support. (: |
| 05:06.29 | *** join/#debian sibro (~deke@174-126-147-164.cpe.cableone.net) |
| 05:06.36 | sydney | Everyone install adblock!!! Save youself some time! And money! from bandwidth! :P |
| 05:06.43 | sydney | somiaj: Ok :) |
| 05:06.49 | sydney | quiets down. |
| 05:07.46 | Arahael | I think addblock is mandatory for windows users. |
| 05:07.57 | *** join/#debian andrew710 (~andrew@183.49.63.225) |
| 05:08.00 | kruug | Is it worth troubleshooting `Failed to get D-Bus connection: No such file or directory` or should I just have the VPS provider reinstall Jessie for me? |
| 05:08.01 | *** join/#debian andrew_ (~andrew@183.49.63.225) |
| 05:08.04 | Arahael | It's insane how difficult it is to know which button is the _correct_ "download" link, otherwise. |
| 05:08.22 | Arahael | kruug: it's probably a missing environment variable, or maybe dbus isn't running. |
| 05:08.34 | *** join/#debian Derpadong (~Derpadong@unaffiliated/derpadong) |
| 05:08.42 | *** join/#debian andrew_ (~andrew@183.49.63.225) |
| 05:08.44 | kruug | Arahael: it's a env variable that's missing, but I can't find a good fix for it |
| 05:08.54 | somiaj | kruug: fresh install or something that crept in. I think debugging dbus takes some voodoo, but I'm an old foogy who dosen't want dbus. (: |
| 05:09.29 | somiaj | kruug: have you made sure it just isn't a known bug in jessie that will still be there if you get a reinstall on your vps? |
| 05:09.32 | sydney | Arahael: true. it helps a ton in linux also. |
| 05:09.57 | sydney | Yeah, i think we all have clicked the wrong one in Windows :P |
| 05:10.15 | kruug | somiaj: it's from dist-upgrade wheezy->jessie |
| 05:10.24 | *** join/#debian p0lly (~polly@dsl-173-206-249-234.tor.primus.ca) |
| 05:10.28 | kruug | from what I can see, it's the init.d to systemd or whatever that change was |
| 05:10.57 | Rusty1 | there is a dbus real time monitoring package, just dont ask me what it is |
| 05:11.10 | somiaj | kruug: and this was done on a fresh wheezy install? Or a fairly clean system. I have heard others have that issue, I woudln't be surprised if this wasn't a known bug. |
| 05:11.35 | kruug | fairly clean...I've found instruction to fix it, but it was on an Arch forum |
| 05:11.53 | kruug | everything from Debian says "we can't reproduce it, and OP reinstalled, so there's no way to debug this" |
| 05:13.33 | somiaj | kruug: well if you can reproduce it on a dist-upgrade of a fresh wheezy install, then maybe it is worth helping out debian by providing that info to the debian BTS |
| 05:13.38 | shay_shay | i get all my helpf from arch or gentoo forums or wiki, all the time |
| 05:13.46 | shay_shay | s/helpf/help |
| 05:14.08 | somiaj | kruug: but it could be just some slight config change that unless you can isolate won't reproduce the issue. I'd say create a new vm and see if you have that issue. |
| 05:14.45 | somiaj | yea both the arch and gentoo wiki are really good, with a little knowledge of how debian works it is easy to use their advise on a debian system. |
| 05:15.01 | shay_shay | ^ |
| 05:15.18 | somiaj | I end up finding what I need on the arch wiki far more often than gentoo though (this is after I can't find it on the debian wiki) |
| 05:15.19 | shay_shay | i pretty much cross reference with debian wiki |
| 05:15.53 | shay_shay | sometimes gentoo has some really technical things you wouldnt find anywhere else though |
| 05:16.01 | shay_shay | like compile options :P |
| 05:16.58 | Rusty1 | bustle is the app |
| 05:17.16 | shay_shay | but arch wiki if i could only pick one to be stranded on a desert island with |
| 05:19.07 | ryouma | desert island with internet |
| 05:19.37 | *** join/#debian raspberrypifan (~raspberry@186.42.19.151) |
| 05:19.51 | *** join/#debian kkvlk (~kkvlk@r167-57-11-119.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 05:20.37 | shay_shay | ryouma: yes that would be a prerequisite... and margaritas |
| 05:20.40 | *** join/#debian paranoids (~markus@amd.paranoids.at) |
| 05:21.49 | *** join/#debian Asiajey (~Asiajey@unaffiliated/asiajey) |
| 05:22.08 | *** join/#debian darthanubis (~darthanub@unaffiliated/darthanubis) |
| 05:23.48 | kruug | ugh...I may have to ditch this VPS provider. Seems like they only have wheezy available for images. |
| 05:24.33 | kruug | but, they're $10/year for 20GB storage, 512MB RAM, and 1TB bandwidth... |
| 05:24.42 | shay_shay | well |
| 05:25.50 | *** join/#debian n3ss_ (~n3ss___@c-174-56-156-176.hsd1.sc.comcast.net) |
| 05:25.58 | *** join/#debian k-man (~jason@unaffiliated/k-man) |
| 05:26.33 | somiaj | kruug: running jessie as a server is usually considered bad pratice. Why are you wanting jessie on the vps? |
| 05:27.08 | kruug | Because I want a newer phpMyAdmin, and jessie is going to be stable soon anyways... |
| 05:27.28 | kruug | I know backports exist, but that's more work in the long run |
| 05:27.31 | somiaj | kruug: phpmyadmin is just a set of php scripts, is it just not compadable with the php version on wheezy? |
| 05:27.36 | *** join/#debian bakhtiya (~me@office.addictivemobility.com) |
| 05:28.15 | *** join/#debian raspberrypifan (~raspberry@186.42.19.151) |
| 05:28.51 | kruug | somiaj: it is, and I could backport it, but version 4 of phpMyAdmin has more GUI controls where v3.whatever requires reorganizing tables be done with SQL scripts |
| 05:28.52 | somiaj | well with phpymadmin, provided it is compadable with the php in wheezy (I don't see why it woudlnt' be) just isntall it from source, it is just a set of php scripts anyways. Just have to realize you won't get any security vulns fixed with apt, but since jessie doesn't have security support the result is teh same but the rest of the system has security support. |
| 05:29.32 | somiaj | I woudln't even worry about backporting it, since it is just a collection of php scripts (at least last I checked) |
| 05:29.34 | shay_shay | yeah well if you just need the vps to do one thing, just run ubuntu |
| 05:29.37 | *** join/#debian deadalnix_ (~deadalnix@50.254.155.214) |
| 05:29.41 | shay_shay | i mean as a last resort |
| 05:29.50 | kruug | shay_shay: nope |
| 05:29.52 | *** join/#debian lamasnik (~Nikolas@195.191.146.39) |
| 05:29.52 | shay_shay | since wheezy is not going to work |
| 05:29.56 | kruug | I have sworn off Ubuntu |
| 05:30.05 | shay_shay | fair enough |
| 05:30.10 | kruug | wheezy will work, I just want newer :) I'm selfish that way |
| 05:30.14 | shay_shay | ah |
| 05:30.21 | shay_shay | well its certainly possible |
| 05:30.30 | shay_shay | you just gotta compile a bunch of stuff |
| 05:31.03 | kruug | same reason why I'd rather complain on here about the upgrade breaking my system and then wiping/reloading as opposed to helping and debugging |
| 05:31.11 | somiaj | shay_shay: I don't see why he would need to compile anything with phpmyadmin, though I dont use it, but last I checked it was just php scripts, no actual binary. |
| 05:31.46 | shay_shay | I recall using phpmyadmin on wheezy vps |
| 05:32.00 | shay_shay | in fact I never found a problem where the workaround was too kludgey |
| 05:32.08 | shay_shay | just normal system administration |
| 05:32.09 | *** join/#debian RdrOfTheSt0rm (~RdrOfTheS@gateway/tor-sasl/rdrofthest0rm) |
| 05:32.26 | Arahael | What's the easiest way for me to download an email account into an mbox file? |
| 05:32.32 | shay_shay | when i say recall, i mean a few months ago |
| 05:32.45 | *** join/#debian Montaro (montaro@eth1483.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) |
| 05:32.55 | somiaj | Arahael: email account from where? Many email servers can be connected to via pop3 or imap, and either should allow that |
| 05:33.40 | somiaj | Arahael: if you just want the email locally fetchmail does both pop3 and imap and will download things onto your local server for you (might even convert to the format you want). |
| 05:34.09 | kruug | shay_shay: yeah, I currently have a page display item stock for a TCG, and the list builder changed their CSV output format. I had to reorder the colums and add a few extras. |
| 05:34.22 | Arahael | somiaj: Yeah, I dont' want it for my "local server" though - just a file. |
| 05:34.31 | Arahael | somiaj: As an archive of emails I'm about to delete. |
| 05:34.35 | *** join/#debian Simotek-Work (~Simotek@opensuse/member/simotek) |
| 05:34.43 | kruug | I was forced to do it all via SQL statements where the newer phpMyAdmin versions support drag-and-drop editing of the column order. |
| 05:34.57 | somiaj | Arahael: so a one time download as opposed to periodic. again fetchmail puts things in the user mail account on the server even if it is local you probabaly have an MTA |
| 05:35.30 | somiaj | kruug: again my suggestion is just get phpmyadmin from source, since it is just a set of scripts all you have to do is configure it (no need to packge/backport) |
| 05:35.32 | *** join/#debian darthanubis (~darthanub@unaffiliated/darthanubis) |
| 05:35.38 | somiaj | ,v phpmyadmin |
| 05:35.49 | judd | Package: phpmyadmin on i386 -- squeeze: 4:3.3.7-7; squeeze-security: 4:3.3.7-7; squeeze-security-lts: 4:3.3.7-8; wheezy-security: 4:3.4.11.1-2+deb7u1; wheezy: 4:3.4.11.1-2+deb7u1; sid: 4:4.2.12-2; jessie: 4:4.2.12-2 |
| 05:36.49 | somiaj | kruug: https://packages.debian.org/jessie/phpmyadmin -- actually the depends look to not be version dependent, you may be able to install the jessie package on wheezy no problem. |
| 05:38.17 | somiaj | Arahael: but there are various email clients that will do what you want (provided your email server has pop3 or imap access) icedove (thunderbird) is one I used for years until I just went to gmail (my job uses it and I find it much nicer than a local storage). |
| 05:39.58 | *** join/#debian Devastatr (~devas@179.183.164.92) |
| 05:40.24 | Arahael | somiaj: That's an option, I should install thunderbird and see. The main complication is that this account isn't mine. |
| 05:40.29 | *** join/#debian rmdashrf (~rmdashrf@unaffiliated/rmdashrf) |
| 05:42.34 | *** join/#debian linuxuz3r (~linuxuz3r@2602:306:bd2a:a160:a187:dcf6:4f9f:8f26) |
| 05:43.13 | kruug | is it possible to get IceWeasel on Windows? |
| 05:43.56 | kruug | hmmm...last update 2013-09-24 http://sourceforge.net/projects/iw4win/ |
| 05:44.01 | somiaj | kruug: why not just use firefox? The difference is nil (unless you really hate the firefox branding and in that case probabaly not) |
| 05:44.17 | Derpadong | kruug: Firefox = iceweasel |
| 05:44.25 | Arahael | Heck, even Debian didn't have any issues with the Firefox branding. |
| 05:44.35 | Arahael | (Firefox had issues with the branding - so Debian complied) |
| 05:45.02 | kruug | I know it's just Firefox rebranded, but I'd want it to be different and have a laugh with my coworker |
| 05:45.53 | somiaj | Arahael: it was less the branding and more firefox didn't want to be assoicated with 'outdated yet secure packages' |
| 05:46.04 | somiaj | Arahael: funny enough debian doesn't use that model of seciruty for browsers anymore. |
| 05:46.19 | *** join/#debian verri (~verri@2a02:1811:8888:dd00::753) |
| 05:46.45 | Arahael | somiaj: No, it was more that Firefox didn't want to have their branding on modified products, where changes were applied that they didn't neccessarily review. |
| 05:47.22 | somiaj | kruug: my guess is no one cares enough to keep supporting rebranding the windows port, you'll probably have to do it yourself, seems the one source you found that did it got bored (: |
| 05:47.56 | kruug | also the whole logo and related artwork are considered "closed source" |
| 05:47.57 | linuxuz3r | whats the meta package for opengl development? |
| 05:48.03 | somiaj | Arahael: that seems more reasonable, I knew it had somethign to do with mozilla not liking how we handeled security support on the frozen version. |
| 05:48.33 | somiaj | linuxuz3r: for some reason glut pops in my head, but I think that is just a libary for programing and may not be what you are looking for. |
| 05:48.41 | Arahael | somiaj: My understanding was that Firefox and Debian were both being very reasonable - if not perhaps slightly pedantic. |
| 05:48.43 | *** join/#debian CEnnis91 (uid3543@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qucxqpmikvubaqps) |
| 05:48.44 | somiaj | linuxuz3r: what are you needing, are you needed to build something against opengl? |
| 05:48.47 | Arahael | somiaj: But you can't fault that. |
| 05:49.24 | kruug | according to wiki, the whole thing was over the branding and trademarks https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GNU_IceCat#Origins_of_the_name |
| 05:49.37 | somiaj | Arahael: really if a trademark is public domain debian shouldn't be using it and mozilla is not, so in the end I think it is good. |
| 05:50.05 | *** join/#debian wakd (~wakd@unaffiliated/wakd) |
| 05:50.14 | somiaj | kruug: yea the mozilla trade marks are non-free, for the most part the dsfg didn't get that picky about trademarks, but mozilla acutally told debian to not use their trademarks on modified producs as Arahael pointed out. |
| 05:50.15 | linuxuz3r | somiaj: yes |
| 05:50.27 | somiaj | linuxuz3r: what softwar may I ask, it may depend on which opengl you are using |
| 05:50.53 | somiaj | linuxuz3r: for example I use the nvidia-glx-dev packages to compile wine against because I use the nvidia gl, but I think you want some mesa-dev type package. |
| 05:51.29 | somiaj | linuxuz3r: libgl1-mesa-dev that is the package I found with apt-cache search, but again it may depend on what actual opengl libary you are using on your system. |
| 05:51.50 | *** join/#debian n3ss (~n3ss___@c-174-56-156-176.hsd1.sc.comcast.net) |
| 05:52.45 | *** join/#debian paragon (~paragon@73.12.11.95) |
| 05:53.57 | *** join/#debian socomm (~socomm@96.40.131.251) |
| 06:00.24 | *** join/#debian Loaft (~asdasdsd@65.94.55.127) |
| 06:01.17 | *** join/#debian Ericx2x (~textual@209-6-40-131.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com) |
| 06:02.48 | *** join/#debian BuFF (~3po@94.244.83.182) |
| 06:04.28 | *** join/#debian sharky (~sharky@unaffiliated/sharky) |
| 06:05.30 | *** join/#debian b1101 (~b@fsf/member/b1101) |
| 06:07.23 | *** join/#debian socomm (~socomm@96-40-131-251.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com) |
| 06:09.04 | *** join/#debian Merixer (~Merixer@2001:470:deb8:162:1dc6:69e0:f6:55e1) |
| 06:09.28 | linuxuz3r | what are the c c++ dev meta package? |
| 06:12.18 | *** join/#debian Leoneof (~Leoneof@unaffiliated/leoneof) |
| 06:12.40 | somiaj | linuxuz3r: apt-get install build-essential |
| 06:18.19 | linuxuz3r | thats only c++ |
| 06:18.28 | linuxuz3r | i would like to get c libs too |
| 06:19.01 | *** join/#debian wakd (~wakd@unaffiliated/wakd) |
| 06:19.19 | *** join/#debian RdrOfTheSt0rm (~RdrOfTheS@gateway/tor-sasl/rdrofthest0rm) |
| 06:20.41 | *** join/#debian KpuCko (~KpuCko@213.16.42.98) |
| 06:20.56 | somiaj | it is both, it gives the basic libc6-dev (standard libs) and the tools to compile stuff. Lots of software will need additional -dev libs you have to install sepertally. What are you trying to compile? |
| 06:21.27 | *** join/#debian greenbagels_ (~gb@cpe-65-25-124-183.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 06:21.44 | *** join/#debian onorua (~onorua@49.146.169.210) |
| 06:22.26 | linuxuz3r | ok |
| 06:22.44 | somiaj | again if you answer what it is you are trying to compile, I can be of more help. |
| 06:23.11 | linuxuz3r | im trying to compile a program i made |
| 06:23.16 | linuxuz3r | its in opengl |
| 06:23.24 | *** join/#debian sotto (~sotto@c-76-113-35-234.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) |
| 06:23.28 | *** join/#debian tonythomas (uid25971@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gxualbtuzvylyjdh) |
| 06:24.21 | *** join/#debian ozialien (~ozialien@ip98-167-234-126.ph.ph.cox.net) |
| 06:25.37 | sotto | Is it possible to use an earbud/iem mic as a microphone on Debian Wheezy 7.7? I tried generic Samsung and Apple headphones, used alsamixer, but it won't record anything. |
| 06:27.44 | *** join/#debian wakd_ (~wakd@unaffiliated/wakd) |
| 06:28.16 | *** join/#debian MrSavage (~MrSavage@unaffiliated/mrsavage) |
| 06:28.35 | *** join/#debian panarama (~panarama@103.244.188.121) |
| 06:29.15 | *** join/#debian MrSavage (~MrSavage@unaffiliated/mrsavage) |
| 06:29.56 | *** join/#debian yogeshp (~yogeshp@182.72.250.174) |
| 06:30.07 | *** join/#debian phy1729 (~phy1729@unaffiliated/phy1729) |
| 06:30.12 | yogeshp | there there any different channel for #debian india? |
| 06:30.20 | linuxuz3r | !india |
| 06:30.20 | dpkg | it has been said that india is a country in South Asia. It is the seventh largest country in the world by area, and the world's most populous democracy. |
| 06:30.29 | linuxuz3r | !debian-india |
| 06:30.43 | linuxuz3r | you can speak english just ask here |
| 06:30.49 | *** join/#debian Ciph3r (~Cyph3r@96-40-173-182.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com) |
| 06:31.32 | *** join/#debian darthanubis (~darthanub@unaffiliated/darthanubis) |
| 06:33.41 | *** join/#debian Ciph3r (~Cyph3r@96-40-173-182.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com) |
| 06:33.41 | *** join/#debian k2gremlin (~Gremlin@ip70-179-139-167.fv.ks.cox.net) |
| 06:35.10 | *** join/#debian b_ (~b@fsf/member/b1101) |
| 06:38.52 | *** join/#debian HeavyMetal (~HeavyMeta@unaffiliated/heavymetal) |
| 06:44.23 | *** join/#debian dgriffi (~dave@nyx.feedle.net) |
| 06:45.01 | dgriffi | has anyone here been able to get anything out of a C-Media USB sound dongle other than lots of static? |
| 06:45.04 | *** join/#debian panarama (~panarama@103.244.188.121) |
| 06:47.11 | *** join/#debian onorua (~onorua@49.146.169.210) |
| 06:47.49 | *** join/#debian Jsilver_ (~silverman@207.158.41.205) |
| 06:49.30 | *** join/#debian ibirisol (~ibirisol@2801:86:0:1:d6ae:52ff:fefe:2c52) |
| 06:53.38 | *** part/#debian dgriffi (~dave@nyx.feedle.net) |
| 06:55.24 | *** join/#debian panarama (~panarama@103.244.188.121) |
| 06:57.41 | *** join/#debian varunendra (~varunendr@ubuntu/member/varunendra) |
| 06:59.00 | *** join/#debian MrSavage (~MrSavage@unaffiliated/mrsavage) |
| 06:59.41 | *** join/#debian HeavyMetal (~HeavyMeta@unaffiliated/heavymetal) |
| 07:01.06 | *** join/#debian frewmbot (18b6680b@gateway/web/freenode/ip.24.182.104.11) |
| 07:02.33 | frewmbot | hey guys, I'm trying to set the default locale programmatically. |
| 07:02.44 | frewmbot | I have this written, but it never works: http://paste.scsys.co.uk/458231 |
| 07:02.52 | *** join/#debian s8321414 (~s8321414@host-56.13-234-182.cable.dynamic.kbtelecom.net) |
| 07:02.53 | *** join/#debian paranoids (~markus@amd.paranoids.at) |
| 07:03.06 | frewmbot | as far as I can tell, locales are ONLY generated when the user does not use the non-interactive mode |
| 07:03.32 | frewmbot | is close to scripting the interactive bits, as terrible as that sounds |
| 07:05.04 | *** join/#debian RuBiK9 (~dark@171-115-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr) |
| 07:06.20 | *** join/#debian sdouble25 (~stephan@dslb-088-070-090-126.088.070.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 07:07.17 | *** part/#debian yogeshp (~yogeshp@182.72.250.174) |
| 07:08.43 | *** join/#debian kkvlk (~kkvlk@r167-57-11-119.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 07:10.51 | *** join/#debian wakd (~wakd@unaffiliated/wakd) |
| 07:11.06 | frewmbot | gives up for the night |
| 07:11.11 | frewmbot | so annoying. |
| 07:13.52 | *** join/#debian Ericx2x (~textual@209-6-40-131.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com) |
| 07:15.43 | *** join/#debian knosys (~knosys@unaffiliated/knosys) |
| 07:20.56 | *** join/#debian panarama (~panarama@103.244.188.121) |
| 07:21.36 | *** join/#debian maesrin (~maesrin@2a02:580:42f9:dd00:35df:2e1b:d044:238b) |
| 07:23.09 | *** join/#debian Jsilver__ (~silverman@207.158.41.75) |
| 07:23.23 | *** part/#debian KpuCko (~KpuCko@213.16.42.98) |
| 07:24.33 | *** join/#debian mavhc (~mavhc@cpc12-basf8-2-0-cust10.12-3.cable.virginm.net) |
| 07:25.50 | *** join/#debian Gegenrung (~gegenrung@unaffiliated/gegenrung) |
| 07:26.31 | *** join/#debian xSmurf (MrSmurf@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-euosthmckxffxjaz) |
| 07:27.19 | *** join/#debian SlaGTaTs (~bilbo@cpc3-donc11-2-0-cust325.17-1.cable.virginm.net) |
| 07:27.33 | *** join/#debian AlexPortable (uid7568@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-wxduzgvhprkzlwmr) |
| 07:29.52 | *** join/#debian Gregor3000 (~quassel@BSN-77-54-206.static.siol.net) |
| 07:31.14 | *** join/#debian MasterPiece (~MasterPie@unaffiliated/masterpiece) |
| 07:31.14 | *** join/#debian panarama (~panarama@103.244.188.121) |
| 07:33.17 | *** join/#debian na1rb (~nairb@cpe-24-28-77-249.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 07:33.17 | *** join/#debian na1rb (~nairb@unaffiliated/na1rb) |
| 07:35.30 | *** join/#debian HasanAtizaz (~atizaz@phoenix.hostception.com) |
| 07:35.57 | *** join/#debian nislova (kvirc@5.144.74.10) |
| 07:36.23 | *** join/#debian Ciph3r (~Cyph3r@96-40-173-182.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com) |
| 07:38.02 | *** join/#debian xSmurf (MrSmurf@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-zvmzjfonvxjcizfq) |
| 07:38.24 | *** join/#debian dgriffi (~dave@nyx.feedle.net) |
| 07:38.39 | *** join/#debian Ciph3r (~Cyph3r@96-40-173-182.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com) |
| 07:39.51 | *** join/#debian JRDXxX (~quassel@c-24-11-252-238.hsd1.in.comcast.net) |
| 07:41.40 | *** join/#debian paragon (~paragon@73.12.11.95) |
| 07:42.11 | *** join/#debian Lolocafera (~afera@ANantes-655-1-112-158.w90-59.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 07:42.58 | *** join/#debian na1rb (~nairb@unaffiliated/na1rb) |
| 07:43.45 | dgriffi | can someone point me to a guide on getting mic input from a USB soundcard? |
| 07:44.34 | rozie | will try to help but don't have access to USB snd card right now |
| 07:44.45 | rozie | 1. run alsamixer |
| 07:44.53 | rozie | 2. choose your usb card |
| 07:44.57 | dgriffi | tried that. All I get is static |
| 07:45.29 | rozie | does output work from USB snd card? |
| 07:45.41 | dgriffi | yes |
| 07:46.16 | *** join/#debian Ariel_Calzada (~aricalso@186.82.177.85) |
| 07:46.23 | rozie | so when you press f6 in alsamixer there's no usb card present at all, but sound works? |
| 07:47.18 | dgriffi | I pressed F6 in alsamixer. one of my choices is "C-Media USB Audio Device". that's the USB dongle |
| 07:47.31 | rozie | good, choose this |
| 07:47.58 | dgriffi | I did. turning up and down the "Speaker" slider alters the output volume |
| 07:48.03 | *** join/#debian na1rb (~nairb@cpe-24-28-77-249.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 07:48.03 | *** join/#debian na1rb (~nairb@unaffiliated/na1rb) |
| 07:48.10 | rozie | now press F4 |
| 07:48.11 | dgriffi | doing the same to the mic slider does nothing. and it is unmuted |
| 07:48.15 | *** part/#debian cladmatter (~cladmatte@72-184-81-158.res.bhn.net) |
| 07:48.38 | rozie | uhm. muted mic is common cause |
| 07:48.45 | dgriffi | twiddling the CAPTURE slider I see with F4 does nothing |
| 07:49.22 | rozie | pressing m or space? |
| 07:49.30 | dgriffi | those too |
| 07:49.32 | dgriffi | nothing |
| 07:49.52 | rozie | how do you check there's no effect? |
| 07:50.46 | dgriffi | I have audacity going. the monitor meter for the mic shows me something going on, but it has no relation to what's actually hitting the mic |
| 07:51.26 | rozie | take a look on http://wiki.audacityteam.org/index.php?title=USB_mic_on_Linux |
| 07:51.28 | dgriffi | even with the mic pulled out of the jack, half the meter is fluttering |
| 07:51.38 | rozie | looks pretty good at first glance |
| 07:54.01 | *** join/#debian na1rb (~nairb@unaffiliated/na1rb) |
| 07:55.05 | *** join/#debian paranoids (~markus@amd.paranoids.at) |
| 07:55.22 | dgriffi | no good |
| 07:56.29 | rozie | cat /proc/asound/pcm |
| 07:56.51 | *** join/#debian panarama (~panarama@103.244.188.121) |
| 07:57.03 | rozie | if there's you mic listed, it's possible to get it running ;) |
| 07:57.53 | dgriffi | 01-00: USB Audio : USB Audio : playback 1 : capture 1 |
| 07:58.13 | *** join/#debian raspberrypifan (~raspberry@186.42.61.2) |
| 08:02.31 | dgriffi | rozie: any ideas? |
| 08:02.35 | *** join/#debian xSmurf (MrSmurf@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-vbzblvnaiywmnfdl) |
| 08:03.22 | *** join/#debian ph8 (~ph8@81.141.119.5) |
| 08:03.27 | *** join/#debian Ratboy (~ratboy@x2f64765.dyn.telefonica.de) |
| 08:04.09 | *** join/#debian panarama (~panarama@103.244.188.121) |
| 08:04.35 | *** join/#debian paragon (~paragon@73.12.11.95) |
| 08:04.47 | rozie | arecord -f cd -D hw:1,0 -d 20 test.wav |
| 08:05.07 | rozie | then aplay -f cd test.wav |
| 08:06.25 | *** join/#debian nse1 (~leo@189.1.18.74) |
| 08:06.58 | dgriffi | arecord: set_params:1087: Channels count non available |
| 08:07.32 | dgriffi | didn't work |
| 08:08.43 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (~demon@89.43.150.23) |
| 08:08.51 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (~demon@unaffiliated/ra3or) |
| 08:10.04 | *** join/#debian silent` (~silent@bzq-79-177-124-29.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 08:10.35 | *** join/#debian R430R (~demon@89.43.150.23) |
| 08:10.40 | *** join/#debian silent- (~silent@bzq-79-177-124-29.red.bezeqint.net) |
| 08:11.01 | *** join/#debian hanfm (~Thunderbi@koln-4d0425c9.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 08:11.59 | *** join/#debian kailo (~kailo@cpe-23-243-152-183.socal.res.rr.com) |
| 08:13.31 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (~demon@89.43.150.23) |
| 08:13.52 | *** join/#debian RA3OR (~demon@unaffiliated/ra3or) |
| 08:15.06 | *** join/#debian xSmurf (MrSmurf@gateway/vpn/mullvad/x-orucauxqqxsydmmp) |
| 08:15.32 | *** join/#debian ph8 (~ph8@unaffiliated/ph8) |
| 08:16.40 | *** join/#debian Gegenrung (~gegenrung@unaffiliated/gegenrung) |
| 08:18.35 | *** join/#debian panarama (~panarama@103.244.188.121) |
| 08:19.22 | *** join/#debian dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) |
| 08:19.38 | *** join/#debian chatsiri_ (~chatsiri_@119-46-191-20.static.asianet.co.th) |
| 08:20.39 | *** join/#debian bertrik (~quassel@rockbox/developer/bertrik) |
| 08:26.34 | *** join/#debian DocMAX (~docmax@g224157044.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 08:29.01 | *** join/#debian smica (~smica@host-87-242-18-155.prtelecom.hu) |
| 08:29.10 | *** join/#debian Pugo (~apiniesjo@g225041085.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 08:30.28 | *** join/#debian kkvlk (~kkvlk@r167-57-11-119.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 08:30.57 | *** join/#debian panarama (~panarama@103.244.188.121) |
| 08:32.03 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1464] by debhelper |
| 08:35.32 | *** join/#debian glyf (~glyf@host-89-241-169-227.as13285.net) |
| 08:38.15 | *** join/#debian panarama (~panarama@103.244.188.121) |
| 08:40.12 | *** join/#debian koeppea_ (~format_c@2001:4dd0:ff00:8421:224:2bff:fe69:c29b) |
| 08:44.17 | *** join/#debian Mike______ (~mike@85.186.5.107) |
| 08:45.18 | dgriffi | can someone reccomend a decent USB sound card? |
| 08:46.33 | jeezy | dgriffi: price range ? |
| 08:46.50 | jeezy | behringer has some inexpensive audio interfaces that work really well |
| 08:46.53 | jeezy | for not much at all |
| 08:48.57 | *** join/#debian contempt (contempt@unaffiliated/contempt) |
| 08:48.59 | *** join/#debian z0ran (~z0ran@gateway/tor-sasl/z0ran) |
| 08:49.09 | *** join/#debian davi (davi@gnu/davi) |
| 08:49.32 | *** join/#debian dm7freek (~dm7freek@2601:8:b280:79:54f9:3944:eee9:e87) |
| 08:50.22 | dgriffi | jeezy: around $50 |
| 08:50.38 | rozie | dgriffi try some other values |
| 08:50.51 | *** join/#debian aswen (~aswen@lochem.swen.nu) |
| 08:51.24 | rozie | dgriffi: I guess it's not the matter of sound card quality. I had $1 usb card and it was OK |
| 08:51.33 | jeezy | i bought a Behringer U-Control UCA222 before |
| 08:51.34 | jeezy | $29 |
| 08:51.39 | rozie | at least for casual listning |
| 08:51.40 | jeezy | spdif out two RCA and a headphone |
| 08:51.51 | rozie | no noticable noises etc. |
| 08:51.52 | jeezy | well two RCA channels 2L and 2R |
| 08:52.01 | jeezy | just like rozie is saying |
| 08:52.07 | jeezy | for the casual listenings |
| 08:52.14 | *** join/#debian anbz (~anbz@broadband-109-173-81-111.nationalcablenetworks.ru) |
| 08:52.19 | dgriffi | I've had the Griffin imic recommended |
| 08:52.35 | jeezy | dunno what that is |
| 08:52.56 | dgriffi | http://store.griffintechnology.com/imic |
| 08:53.01 | *** join/#debian err404 (~err404@62-210-205-221.rev.poneytelecom.eu) |
| 08:53.09 | *** join/#debian Kulrak (kulrak@C-59-101-14-219.hay.connect.net.au) |
| 08:53.09 | *** join/#debian Kulrak (kulrak@tlug/member/kulrak) |
| 08:53.10 | *** join/#debian on1ald (~ben@178-118-139-39.access.telenet.be) |
| 08:53.28 | jeezy | oh; that's geared more toward input i guess |
| 08:53.48 | jeezy | what i was thinking was more like http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/UCA222.aspx |
| 08:54.12 | jeezy | no drivers needed or anything |
| 08:54.15 | rozie | dgriffi: you want to change card because that one "isn't working"? |
| 08:54.24 | rozie | or because sound cuality? |
| 08:54.29 | rozie | quality* |
| 08:54.58 | dgriffi | rozie: quality mostly |
| 08:55.18 | dgriffi | rozie: this thing I got for experimenting with IRLP. I want something else for digitizing LPs |
| 08:55.26 | rozie | ahm, OK, no experience here |
| 08:55.45 | dgriffi | but I'd still like to know just what's going wrong with this cheapie |
| 08:55.58 | jeezy | dgriffi: ah ive ran tables through a behringer interface like that |
| 08:56.02 | jeezy | to backup some albums |
| 08:56.15 | jeezy | it was a XENYX mixer but same interface |
| 08:56.27 | dgriffi | this cheapie buzzes and pops like crazy |
| 08:57.30 | dgriffi | what sort of turntable and preamp did you use? |
| 08:57.34 | *** join/#debian tmh1999 (~tmh1999@gateway/tor-sasl/tmh1999) |
| 08:57.55 | *** join/#debian Siente (Siente@78.83.27.76) |
| 08:58.40 | *** join/#debian WiXZlo (~WiXZlo@dech.winlink.ru) |
| 08:58.44 | *** join/#debian christoffer (~christoff@2a00:865:3b30:c368:c8fb:40f8:8ca2:c326) |
| 08:58.59 | *** join/#debian Kabukky (~kabukky@lbck-5f7787c5.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 08:59.35 | jeezy | sl1200mk5 |
| 08:59.54 | jeezy | from rca out on the mixer into the interface into that macbook http://i.imgur.com/abbOud1.jpg |
| 08:59.58 | jeezy | via usb |
| 09:00.31 | dgriffi | are those technics 1200s? |
| 09:00.36 | *** join/#debian tmh1999 (~tmh1999@gateway/tor-sasl/tmh1999) |
| 09:00.57 | *** join/#debian kimbo_ (~kimboo@217022045073.srn-dsl.gauldalikt.no) |
| 09:00.57 | *** join/#debian yepla (~quassel@cro34-h04-89-86-14-45.dsl.sta.abo.bbox.fr) |
| 09:00.59 | jeezy | yes |
| 09:01.04 | yepla | hi |
| 09:01.35 | yepla | i have a strange problem when i try to connect on ssh i cannot login but if i send file by scp with the same password it s work |
| 09:01.44 | jeezy | dgriffi: here is the mixer i was using on the way to the interface http://i.imgur.com/db6ui1P.jpg |
| 09:01.47 | *** join/#debian mariothemad (~mario@cpe-66-68-77-254.austin.res.rr.com) |
| 09:02.02 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1472] by debhelper |
| 09:02.04 | dgriffi | erk... I misparsed sl1200mk5 as something else |
| 09:02.18 | jeezy | ah |
| 09:02.34 | dgriffi | does the mixer have a phono imput? |
| 09:02.55 | jeezy | yes |
| 09:03.38 | jeezy | right here i moved up to the m-audio fasttrack ultra 8r (under the keyboard in front of monitor) http://i.imgur.com/mggspfk.jpg |
| 09:04.01 | jeezy | and got rid of the macbook (was no longer using the behringer usb interface at this point) |
| 09:04.09 | jeezy | but it was awesome! and worked very well for me |
| 09:04.39 | Arahael | *sigh*. Gmail's frustrating me. |
| 09:04.48 | jeezy | ah; howso Arahael ? |
| 09:04.51 | Arahael | Does anyone know how to get gmail to forward all messages? |
| 09:05.01 | Arahael | Including subscribed google group messages. |
| 09:06.36 | *** join/#debian itworks4me (~user1@ip-37-209-138-175.free.aero2.net.pl) |
| 09:07.24 | valdyn | Arahael: google it? |
| 09:07.57 | Arahael | valdyn: How ironic. Sadly most of the messages tell you how to forward emails. |
| 09:08.01 | Arahael | valdyn: And stop there. |
| 09:08.31 | *** join/#debian Asiajey (~Asiajey@42.115.224.226) |
| 09:08.51 | Arahael | Ah, didn't save the settings. |
| 09:08.52 | *** join/#debian Asiajey (~Asiajey@unaffiliated/asiajey) |
| 09:08.55 | Arahael | is stupid |
| 09:09.17 | *** join/#debian paranoids (~markus@amd.paranoids.at) |
| 09:09.50 | *** join/#debian e-anima (~eanima@p508FEF02.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 09:10.13 | *** join/#debian f10 (~flo@ip5b4034d8.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) |
| 09:13.40 | *** join/#debian Pugo (~apiniesjo@g225041085.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 09:14.45 | itworks4me | hi, I'm using wheezy and i have a problem with laptop automatic suspending when closing the lid. After some time of system using (maybe suspending and resuming) it does not suspend when i close the lid. Suspending works ok using buttons. Any idea how to debug this? |
| 09:15.17 | *** join/#debian bluenemo (~bluenemo@p549FDDED.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 09:15.17 | *** join/#debian bluenemo (~bluenemo@unaffiliated/bluenemo) |
| 09:16.32 | *** join/#debian Sauvin (~Sauvin@about/linux/staff/sauvin) |
| 09:18.23 | *** join/#debian rypervenche (~rypervenc@unaffiliated/rypervenche) |
| 09:19.27 | Arahael | itworks4me: I would suspect your udev rules. |
| 09:19.34 | *** join/#debian gnoid (~gnoid@85.26.183.9) |
| 09:20.03 | *** join/#debian anoy (~Thunderbi@123.120.94.92) |
| 09:21.42 | itworks4me | Arahel: but normally closing the lid works ok. i think the problem appears after doing something like suspending, hibernating, etc. |
| 09:23.06 | Arahael | itworks4me: The udev rules would probably still help explain what's happening. |
| 09:25.26 | *** join/#debian Trow (~Trow@193.50.79.255) |
| 09:27.00 | *** join/#debian CookieM (~tomek@afba224.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 09:27.29 | Arahael | Wow, australian domain names are expensive. |
| 09:28.13 | *** join/#debian panarama (~panarama@103.244.188.121) |
| 09:29.25 | *** join/#debian alexei___ (~amgarchin@p4FD63B91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 09:29.31 | *** join/#debian Sbroker` (~DebianSta@unaffiliated/sbroker) |
| 09:30.00 | *** join/#debian gusnan (~gusnan@s213-100-228-162.cust.tele2.se) |
| 09:38.21 | *** join/#debian itworks4me (~user1@ip-93-154-129-198.free.aero2.net.pl) |
| 09:40.39 | *** join/#debian MrSavage (~MrSavage@unaffiliated/mrsavage) |
| 09:41.24 | *** part/#debian WiXZlo (~WiXZlo@dech.winlink.ru) |
| 09:43.37 | *** join/#debian panarama (~panarama@103.244.188.121) |
| 09:45.26 | *** join/#debian MrSavage (~MrSavage@unaffiliated/mrsavage) |
| 09:45.40 | *** join/#debian alexei___ (~amgarchin@p4FD63B91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 09:45.59 | *** join/#debian RDash` (~Anime@unaffiliated/rdash) |
| 09:46.04 | *** part/#debian itworks4me (~user1@ip-93-154-129-198.free.aero2.net.pl) |
| 09:47.07 | *** join/#debian raspberrypifan (~raspberry@186.46.11.97) |
| 09:48.44 | *** join/#debian spire (~spire@catv-86-101-147-141.catv.broadband.hu) |
| 09:49.25 | *** join/#debian MrSavage (~MrSavage@unaffiliated/mrsavage) |
| 09:49.35 | *** join/#debian madrik (~udyant@122.168.214.242) |
| 09:55.28 | *** join/#debian enkrypt (~enkrypt@2a02:1811:3285:fb00:29c:2ff:feaa:618c) |
| 09:57.04 | *** join/#debian scrunlering (~scrunle@a89-183-100-227.net-htp.de) |
| 09:58.29 | *** join/#debian Leoneof (~Leoneof@unaffiliated/leoneof) |
| 09:59.37 | *** join/#debian zir0faive (~zir0faive@cty37-1-78-214-92-19.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 10:00.00 | *** join/#debian panarama (~panarama@103.244.188.121) |
| 10:00.18 | *** join/#debian CutMeOwnThroat (~boo@unaffiliated/iridos) |
| 10:00.57 | *** join/#debian onorua (~onorua@49.146.169.210) |
| 10:01.29 | kale | what is the proper channel for corosync/pacemaker? i'm haing trouble geting my machines back in cluster |
| 10:03.15 | *** join/#debian colonolGron (~quassel@244-130.106-92.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 10:03.17 | *** join/#debian hgl (~hgl@unaffiliated/hgl) |
| 10:05.52 | *** join/#debian hgl (~hgl@unaffiliated/hgl) |
| 10:05.56 | *** join/#debian tremon (~aschuring@53543BB8.cm-6-5a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 10:07.29 | *** join/#debian StinkyFinger (~StinkyFin@host-92-19-148-179.as13285.net) |
| 10:07.49 | *** join/#debian hgl (~hgl@unaffiliated/hgl) |
| 10:09.22 | *** join/#debian panarama (~panarama@103.244.188.121) |
| 10:09.48 | *** join/#debian hgl (~hgl@unaffiliated/hgl) |
| 10:10.05 | *** join/#debian littlebit (~Thunderbi@ulmg-5d8446c5.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 10:10.21 | *** join/#debian gusnan (~gusnan@s213-100-228-162.cust.tele2.se) |
| 10:11.48 | *** join/#debian hgl (~hgl@unaffiliated/hgl) |
| 10:13.18 | *** join/#debian hgl (~hgl@unaffiliated/hgl) |
| 10:14.10 | *** join/#debian SSbroker (~DebianSta@212.230.60.172) |
| 10:14.48 | *** join/#debian hgl (~hgl@unaffiliated/hgl) |
| 10:14.53 | *** mode/#debian [+o jelly] by ChanServ |
| 10:14.54 | *** part/#debian hgl (~hgl@unaffiliated/hgl) |
| 10:14.55 | *** mode/#debian [+b *!*@unaffiliated/hgl$##fix_your_connection] by jelly |
| 10:14.56 | *** mode/#debian [-o jelly] by ChanServ |
| 10:15.42 | *** join/#debian alexei___ (~amgarchin@p4FD63B91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:15.56 | *** join/#debian knosys_ (~knosys@37.29.230.47) |
| 10:16.17 | *** join/#debian kkvlk (~kkvlk@r167-57-11-119.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 10:16.44 | *** join/#debian ragedragon_ (~ragedrago@hus54-1-78-214-148-27.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 10:16.58 | *** join/#debian no_gravity (~user@unaffiliated/no-gravity/x-0632109) |
| 10:17.07 | *** join/#debian enkrypt (~enkrypt@2a02:1811:3285:fb00:29c:2ff:feaa:618c) |
| 10:17.22 | *** join/#debian dm7freek (~dm7freek@2601:8:b280:79:2945:30b:83ea:594) |
| 10:17.27 | no_gravity | Good Morning! In todays day and age, whats a good way to tell my debian machine to turn off all fans of my desktop pc, if possible? |
| 10:17.42 | *** join/#debian quinput (~quinput@pdpc/supporter/active/quinput) |
| 10:18.28 | *** join/#debian SPF|Cloud (uid11755@wikipedia/Southparkfan) |
| 10:19.51 | *** join/#debian Sbroker (kvirc@unaffiliated/sbroker) |
| 10:20.46 | *** join/#debian f10 (~flo@ip5b4034d8.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) |
| 10:21.34 | *** join/#debian halcon_ (~halcon@S0106002129af1abb.vc.shawcable.net) |
| 10:22.33 | *** join/#debian j0n3 (~j0n3@80.174.54.208.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 10:23.24 | nkuttler | no_gravity: i use fancontrol |
| 10:23.41 | no_gravity | nkuttler: "apt-get fancontrol"? |
| 10:23.47 | nkuttler | certainly not |
| 10:24.23 | nkuttler | apt-get install fancontrol, and iirc i had to use sensors-detect to tell it which sensors to use |
| 10:24.30 | *** join/#debian med\ (~med@105.102.59.137) |
| 10:24.34 | no_gravity | lets see... |
| 10:24.36 | *** join/#debian n3ss (~n3ss@c-174-56-156-176.hsd1.sc.comcast.net) |
| 10:24.55 | no_gravity | oh, i already have it. |
| 10:25.14 | no_gravity | starting it has no impact on the fans |
| 10:25.35 | no_gravity | ha! quitting it raises the fan speed. |
| 10:25.44 | no_gravity | so i obviously have it running on startup |
| 10:26.08 | nkuttler | no_gravity: see man fancontrol. i'm not sure you can set speed by hand, i just let it do things automatically |
| 10:26.11 | no_gravity | guess there is no way to completely silence this machin then. |
| 10:27.19 | no_gravity | maybe i will just rip out the fans and see if the machine survives |
| 10:27.22 | *** join/#debian brokencycle (~brokencyc@188.29.164.229.threembb.co.uk) |
| 10:27.54 | *** join/#debian MoonkYang (~moonkyang@23.226.229.227) |
| 10:28.03 | *** join/#debian tyler-baker (tyler-bake@gateway/shell/linaro/x-cpdhmarhwuikuysx) |
| 10:30.06 | CutMeOwnThroat | nkuttler, does that kind of stuff only work on laptops or are desktops also capable |
| 10:30.19 | nkuttler | CutMeOwnThroat: i only use it on my desktop |
| 10:30.36 | no_gravity | fancontrol seems to be able to stop one fan on my machine |
| 10:30.37 | no_gravity | but not all |
| 10:30.39 | CutMeOwnThroat | could you use pwmconfig? |
| 10:31.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | sensors-detect says there is k10temp sensors, that's it |
| 10:31.31 | CutMeOwnThroat | and pwmconfig says there are no pwm capable fans |
| 10:31.51 | *** join/#debian oli4gate (~oli4gate@AToulouse-156-1-121-46.w90-30.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 10:31.52 | no_gravity | i used pwmconfig |
| 10:31.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | no pwm-capable sensor modules installed, to be exact |
| 10:31.59 | no_gravity | it found one fan |
| 10:32.34 | CutMeOwnThroat | seems only some motherboards have it |
| 10:33.03 | no_gravity | running sensors-detect now |
| 10:33.10 | *** join/#debian pseudomorph (~pseudomor@ppp118-209-14-197.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net) |
| 10:33.10 | no_gravity | shouldnt it be fans-detec? |
| 10:33.12 | *** join/#debian llucenic (~Thunderbi@rev-185-22-215-103.radiolan.sk) |
| 10:33.12 | no_gravity | t |
| 10:34.22 | no_gravity | hmm.. it said it added some modules to /etc/modules |
| 10:34.28 | no_gravity | and i shall run service kmod start |
| 10:34.33 | no_gravity | whatever that means :) |
| 10:35.08 | *** join/#debian anoy (~Thunderbi@123.120.94.92) |
| 10:35.13 | no_gravity | when i do that i get "kmod stop/waiting" |
| 10:35.20 | no_gravity | does that mean the modules are loaded now? |
| 10:35.44 | *** join/#debian AKBlindy (~jticket@jt-lx.info) |
| 10:36.09 | *** join/#debian glyf (~glyf@host-89-241-169-227.as13285.net) |
| 10:38.29 | *** join/#debian arcebispo (~lopes@187-49-198-77.outcenter.com.br) |
| 10:40.08 | *** join/#debian choonming (~choonming@210.195.219.75) |
| 10:40.53 | *** join/#debian choonming (~choonming@210.195.219.75) |
| 10:41.41 | *** join/#debian no_gravity (~user@p5482D08D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 10:41.47 | *** join/#debian maldoror (~maldoror@ACaen-652-1-230-241.w92-154.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 10:41.51 | *** join/#debian p-trust (~dep-k@unaffiliated/p-trust) |
| 10:42.03 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1479] by debhelper |
| 10:42.03 | *** join/#debian vurma (~kimchi@nl109-141-148.student.uu.se) |
| 10:42.27 | *** join/#debian DaisyTheCow (~andy@host81-147-155-219.range81-147.btcentralplus.com) |
| 10:47.25 | *** join/#debian konsi (~konsi@2001:1a50:11:0:5f:8f:acd0:280) |
| 10:50.40 | *** join/#debian thunderrd (~thunderrd@110.78.139.242) |
| 10:52.15 | *** join/#debian panarama (~panarama@103.244.188.121) |
| 10:53.28 | *** join/#debian Guest96753 (~y@541B6F34.cm-5-4b.dynamic.ziggo.nl) |
| 10:55.05 | CutMeOwnThroat | no_gr |
| 10:55.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | ah yes |
| 10:55.12 | *** join/#debian Janaka-Steph (~Janaka-St@che77-1-82-238-24-26.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 10:55.38 | *** join/#debian josokr (~Thunderbi@87.110.188.52) |
| 10:58.15 | *** join/#debian Siente (Siente@78.83.27.76) |
| 10:58.20 | *** join/#debian shad0VV (~shad0VV@77.49.255.64.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 10:58.52 | *** join/#debian Garrett2 (~Garrett2@unaffiliated/garrett2) |
| 10:59.22 | *** join/#debian Xanthor (~Xanthor@ip-110.net-80-236-54.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 10:59.33 | *** join/#debian panarama (~panarama@103.244.188.121) |
| 10:59.44 | *** join/#debian Mmike (~mario@unaffiliated/mmike) |
| 11:00.23 | pseudomorph | Anyone able to help debug a 3d graphics issue? Card is a Haswell intgrated Intel 4600 but gnomeshell drops to classic mode. I have installed the latest 3.16 kernel and xserver-xorg-video-intel from backports. lspci shows the device correctly and indicates the i915 kernel module is properly loaded. Where next? |
| 11:01.06 | *** join/#debian choonming (~choonming@210.195.219.75) |
| 11:01.26 | *** part/#debian Garrett2 (~Garrett2@unaffiliated/garrett2) |
| 11:02.01 | *** join/#debian phaer (~phaer@chello080109090232.4.15.wu-wien.teleweb.at) |
| 11:02.05 | *** join/#debian liske1 (~AndChat46@eco103.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 11:02.42 | valdyn | judd: versions libgl1-mesa-glx |
| 11:02.43 | judd | Package: libgl1-mesa-glx on i386 -- squeeze: 7.7.1-6; squeeze-security: 7.7.1-6; squeeze-backports: 7.10.3-4~bpo60+1; wheezy-security: 8.0.5-4+deb7u2; wheezy: 8.0.5-4+deb7u2; jessie: 10.3.2-1; sid: 10.4.2-2 |
| 11:03.30 | valdyn | pseudomorph: you may need newer mesa, which i dont see being available for wheezy |
| 11:03.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | lspci -v -v -v will show you a pciid that should identify the exact version of the graphics card/chipset... which may make it easier to google for other people having hte problem |
| 11:04.14 | *** join/#debian littlebi1 (~Thunderbi@ulmg-5d8446c5.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 11:05.40 | *** join/#debian stakewinner00 (~stakewinn@114.94.15.37.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 11:06.57 | pseudomorph | valdyn: Perhaps, though forum posts report success with the same chipset, will look into it. |
| 11:07.22 | *** join/#debian oli4gate (~oli4gate@AToulouse-156-1-121-46.w90-30.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 11:07.22 | pseudomorph | CutMeOwnThroat: Thanks, didn;t know about the tiple verbose flag |
| 11:09.20 | pseudomorph | It is relatively new cpu/graphics so support may be limited for now. |
| 11:10.13 | *** join/#debian thawhistl (thawhistl@cpc10-stav16-2-0-cust901.aztw.cable.virginm.net) |
| 11:11.27 | *** join/#debian Quatroking (~Quatrokin@ip226-139-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl) |
| 11:11.34 | valdyn | pseudomorph: since you need gnome this is probably a desktop system anyway, so you might aswell upgrade to jessie already |
| 11:11.52 | *** join/#debian dselect (~dselect@unaffiliated/themill/bot/dselect) |
| 11:14.53 | pseudomorph | valdyn: indeed, though the whole project is a htpc / nas and I thought I'd begin by playing with openmediavault which is built on wheezy. Working 3d graphics was for kodi/xmbc; which may in itself be a challenge on wheezy. |
| 11:16.54 | *** join/#debian Tiffon (~name@unaffiliated/tiff0n) |
| 11:18.35 | The_Ball | Hi guys, I've just upgraded a Wheezy box from the official 3.2.0-4 to 3.16.0-0-bpo.4. udev has failed to create entries for all the drives under /dev/disk/ is this a known issue? |
| 11:18.42 | The_Ball | lsblk shows all six drives correctly |
| 11:19.03 | *** join/#debian towo` (~towo@ipb2191d47.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) |
| 11:20.50 | *** join/#debian kingsley_ (~kingsley@174-21-252-95.tukw.qwest.net) |
| 11:21.15 | *** join/#debian Marezz (Marko@dynamic-92-244-155-59.cpe.vektor.net) |
| 11:21.15 | *** join/#debian Marezz (Marko@unaffiliated/marezz) |
| 11:21.46 | *** join/#debian lamrod (~Thunderbi@lamrod174.plus.com) |
| 11:21.56 | The_Ball | also /dev/sd[a-g]* are created properly |
| 11:23.11 | *** join/#debian TodorovD (~TD@92-247-244-31.spectrumnet.bg) |
| 11:24.31 | *** join/#debian Ceine (59587793@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.88.119.147) |
| 11:24.40 | Ceine | Bonjour, hi |
| 11:25.21 | *** join/#debian sandman13 (~sandman@110.34.16.43) |
| 11:25.35 | Celine | Is there someone here ? |
| 11:27.24 | *** join/#debian Ketsa (~Ketsa@88-139.104-92.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 11:28.07 | *** join/#debian s8321414 (~s8321414@host-56.13-234-182.cable.dynamic.kbtelecom.net) |
| 11:28.16 | jelly | nope |
| 11:28.29 | Celine | Bonjour, hi, is there someone online ? |
| 11:28.33 | *** join/#debian KBme (~r00t@jon13-1-82-228-18-48.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 11:29.34 | *** join/#debian wyre (~wyre@81.172.88.157.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 11:29.36 | jelly | The_Ball: works for me with a $(uname -a) Linux kanta-linux 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt2-1 (2014-12-08) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 11:30.04 | *** part/#debian konsi (~konsi@2001:1a50:11:0:5f:8f:acd0:280) |
| 11:30.07 | *** join/#debian dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) |
| 11:30.08 | jelly | all of /dev/disk/by-{id,label,uuid} are populated |
| 11:30.53 | *** join/#debian alexei___ (~amgarchin@p4FD63B91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:31.05 | jelly | er, wrong machine. It works on > Linux burek 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt2-1~bpo70+1 (2014-12-08) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 11:31.12 | celyne | Bonjour, hi, is there someone online ? I have a huge problem with a raid6 shutdown during reshape on mdadm (open media vault) |
| 11:31.33 | The_Ball | jelly, more digging, it's only the by-path links that at missing |
| 11:31.47 | The_Ball | jelly, unfortunately that's the paths I used to build my ZFS pool |
| 11:31.51 | *** join/#debian infernix (nix@unaffiliated/infernix) |
| 11:32.02 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1488] by debhelper |
| 11:32.48 | jelly | celyne: if noone answers here, ask in #linux-raid channel, and be patient |
| 11:33.16 | *** join/#debian zoso (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 11:33.20 | jelly | celyne: it can take hours-days for an answer, esp. on weekends |
| 11:33.52 | *** join/#debian infernix (nix@unaffiliated/infernix) |
| 11:34.57 | celyne | thanks jelly |
| 11:35.04 | *** join/#debian alskdj (~androirc@186-45-131-8.dynamic.tstt.net.tt) |
| 11:35.09 | celyne | here the thread : http://forums.openmediavault.org/index.php/Thread/7377-HELP-shutdown-in-middle-of-expand-reshape-a-raid6/ |
| 11:35.58 | *** join/#debian raspberrypifan (~raspberry@186.47.62.9) |
| 11:37.35 | *** join/#debian paranoids (~markus@amd.paranoids.at) |
| 11:40.25 | *** join/#debian panarama (~panarama@103.244.188.121) |
| 11:42.36 | valdyn | celyne: thats a warning, not an error yet |
| 11:43.19 | *** join/#debian Guest46234 (uid49748@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-eknwxxgbuzssxwtu) |
| 11:43.48 | *** join/#debian antgel (~topdog@5.28.169.69) |
| 11:43.58 | *** join/#debian Trow (~Trow@80.12.35.171) |
| 11:44.01 | valdyn | celyne: how long have you waited while it kept being stuck? |
| 11:44.14 | valdyn | Cybertinus: roughly how many files are on that filesystem? |
| 11:44.20 | valdyn | poof |
| 11:44.56 | *** join/#debian stpd (~stpd@109.128.212.62) |
| 11:46.25 | *** join/#debian alsk (~asdf@186-45-131-8.dynamic.tstt.net.tt) |
| 11:47.43 | *** join/#debian Chex (~Chex@swampjax.northnook.ca) |
| 11:48.42 | *** join/#debian panarama (~panarama@103.244.188.121) |
| 11:49.28 | *** join/#debian Nothing4You_ (N4Y@nothing4you.w.tf-w.tf) |
| 11:49.29 | *** join/#debian cuqa (4289a@server1.bouncer4you.de) |
| 11:49.31 | celyne | 12h |
| 11:49.57 | valdyn | celyne: you may just have to wait for this to fix itself |
| 11:50.22 | celyne | how do I know that the process is not buged ? |
| 11:50.22 | *** join/#debian jpinx (~jpinx@trapper.beardy.se) |
| 11:50.30 | valdyn | celyne: if you want to monitor progress you can boot with a live cd |
| 11:50.35 | *** join/#debian Fusselkater (~Fusselkat@46.38.251.123) |
| 11:50.46 | *** join/#debian wytrzeszcz (~wytrzeszc@individual-239-126.maxnet.biz) |
| 11:50.50 | celyne | or stucked ? Is it possible that I losse al my raid and data ? (don't tell me yes :((((( ) |
| 11:51.02 | valdyn | celyne: of course anything is possible |
| 11:51.17 | celyne | no.... ;( |
| 11:51.23 | valdyn | celyne: the message you are getting though sais nothing about data loss |
| 11:52.00 | *** join/#debian ompaul (~ompaul@unaffiliated/ompaul) |
| 11:52.02 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1476] by debhelper |
| 11:52.18 | valdyn | celyne: this may run much faster if you dont do fsck and raid resync at the same time. Again you can do that by using a live cd |
| 11:52.36 | *** join/#debian crash_ (~pi@c-e70ce253.7837827--62697410.cust.bredbandsbolaget.se) |
| 11:52.40 | celyne | is it bad to have done a shutdown during a grow raid6 array (from 5 to 6 disks), during reshape ? |
| 11:52.44 | *** join/#debian blueeagle (~blueeagle@ti0040a400-0418.bb.online.no) |
| 11:52.48 | *** join/#debian lasers (~lasers@unaffiliated/lasers) |
| 11:52.51 | celyne | Thanks valdyn |
| 11:52.55 | valdyn | celyne: thats a silly question |
| 11:53.00 | valdyn | celyne: of course its bad |
| 11:53.13 | *** join/#debian imaami (imaami@zen.zc.fi) |
| 11:53.17 | celyne | :/ |
| 11:53.19 | *** join/#debian xiqy (~xiqsjvfy@fsf/member/xiqsjvfy) |
| 11:53.35 | celyne | I know it's silly, I'm running mad beacause of this, sorry |
| 11:54.00 | valdyn | celyne: get a live cd, boot it, start the raid (if the live cd does not do that by itself) |
| 11:54.11 | *** part/#debian accumulator (~kvirc@i65155.upc-i.chello.nl) |
| 11:54.11 | *** join/#debian accumulator (~kvirc@i65155.upc-i.chello.nl) |
| 11:54.13 | celyne | I loose all my common sens, It was more about how much bad it could be |
| 11:54.14 | valdyn | celyne: then *after* resync is done, try to mount it and/fsck it |
| 11:54.57 | *** join/#debian RyanKnack (RyanKnack@unaffiliated/ryanknack) |
| 11:55.02 | *** join/#debian tastybuds (~tastybuds@adsl-179.46.190.37.tellas.gr) |
| 11:55.02 | *** join/#debian tastybuds (~tastybuds@unaffiliated/tastybuds) |
| 11:55.25 | *** join/#debian skamikaze (~basti@unaffiliated/skamikaze) |
| 11:55.35 | celyne | I have to search my boy at stadium |
| 11:55.45 | celyne | dont go valdyn :) |
| 11:55.45 | *** join/#debian bluenemo (~bluenemo@p549FDDED.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 11:55.46 | *** join/#debian bluenemo (~bluenemo@unaffiliated/bluenemo) |
| 11:56.02 | *** join/#debian rbnielsen (~rbnielsen@2-109-204-209-dynamic.dk.customer.tdc.net) |
| 11:56.50 | *** join/#debian verri (~verri@2a02:1811:8888:dd00::753) |
| 11:57.27 | *** join/#debian RoyK (~roy@77.88.71.251) |
| 11:57.29 | *** join/#debian AciD`` (~gni@jau72-5-78-223-56-21.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 11:57.53 | *** part/#debian tastybuds (~tastybuds@unaffiliated/tastybuds) |
| 11:59.06 | *** join/#debian Nothing4You (N4Y@nothing4you.w.tf-w.tf) |
| 11:59.10 | *** join/#debian ToBeCloud (uid51591@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qgsuwvjyfgftyach) |
| 11:59.21 | *** join/#debian frostschutz (~frostschu@x2f64d49.dyn.telefonica.de) |
| 11:59.24 | *** join/#debian JohnnyricoMC (~Johnnyric@unaffiliated/johnnyricomc) |
| 11:59.25 | *** join/#debian wyre (~wyre@81.172.88.157.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 11:59.58 | *** join/#debian i7-4700HQ (hassoon@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-miyeyiwnlezcafnz) |
| 12:00.28 | *** join/#debian CeBe (~CeBe@port-92-200-77-88.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 12:00.32 | *** join/#debian notis (~notis@athedsl-83380.home.otenet.gr) |
| 12:01.55 | *** join/#debian zoso (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 12:02.03 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1484] by debhelper |
| 12:02.18 | *** join/#debian christoffer (~christoff@c83-179-12-54.cust.tele2.se) |
| 12:03.08 | *** join/#debian zoso (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 12:03.24 | *** join/#debian weld (~weld@p5488DDF5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 12:04.02 | *** part/#debian n3ss (~n3ss@c-174-56-156-176.hsd1.sc.comcast.net) |
| 12:04.23 | *** join/#debian scoofy (~spirit@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu) |
| 12:04.31 | *** join/#debian eni (~eni@gob75-5-82-230-88-217.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 12:04.48 | *** join/#debian mrtnt_ (~martint@martint.data.ee) |
| 12:04.55 | scoofy | where does xdg-dirs-update keep the paths to the varios dirs? |
| 12:05.02 | *** join/#debian kkvlk (~kkvlk@r167-57-11-119.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 12:05.05 | *** join/#debian infernix (nix@unaffiliated/infernix) |
| 12:05.37 | *** join/#debian JohnnyricoMC (~Johnnyric@unaffiliated/johnnyricomc) |
| 12:05.38 | *** join/#debian hazelroy (~alladin@anon-41-124.vpn.ipredator.se) |
| 12:05.54 | *** join/#debian dpkg (~dpkg@unaffiliated/dpkg) |
| 12:06.07 | hazelroy | how can I use Debian Jessie beta 2 ? |
| 12:06.58 | ompaul | hazelroy: the right way is to install stable and dist-upgrade to it |
| 12:08.24 | *** join/#debian gigetoo (~gigetoo@c83-250-35-127.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 12:09.18 | hazelroy | ompaul, Ok how to update ? |
| 12:10.06 | *** join/#debian stpd_ (~stpd@87.66.228.38) |
| 12:10.06 | *** join/#debian doomster (~uli@e177191160.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 12:10.41 | *** part/#debian scoofy (~spirit@catv-89-135-80-2.catv.broadband.hu) |
| 12:10.46 | doomster | Hi! Some time ago after an update, the sleep-button on my keyboard ceased to work, any suggestion what I should look at? |
| 12:11.14 | *** join/#debian ColmeneroM (ColmeneroM@gateway/shell/bnc4free/x-iijvwwhrirbwvgbv) |
| 12:11.45 | *** join/#debian jpinx (~jpinx@unaffiliated/jpinx) |
| 12:12.22 | *** join/#debian Nyoom (Nyoom@unaffiliated/nyoom) |
| 12:12.49 | *** join/#debian thedudez0r (~gt@gateway/tor-sasl/grullizzle) |
| 12:12.49 | *** join/#debian sdouble25 (~stephan@dslb-088-070-090-126.088.070.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 12:13.14 | *** join/#debian i7-4700HQ (hassoon@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-runxhwbihdxpxvuw) |
| 12:13.34 | *** join/#debian dm7freek (~dm7freek@73.181.156.29) |
| 12:13.42 | ompaul | hazelroy: install stable, and then change the file /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 12:13.59 | ompaul | hazelroy: so where it says wheezy to jessie |
| 12:14.12 | *** join/#debian dutchfish (~wil@unaffiliated/dutchfish) |
| 12:14.33 | *** join/#debian funnybunny (funnybunny@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-xmyyettjduzhfbwc) |
| 12:14.37 | ompaul | hazelroy: apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade <<< actual command as root and game on |
| 12:14.55 | *** join/#debian thims (thims@gateway/shell/blinkenshell.org/x-zdyinfcoakpiyjsn) |
| 12:15.36 | *** join/#debian soulz (~soulz@zen.luflow.net) |
| 12:16.03 | *** join/#debian ix (kvamtroe@unaffiliated/ix) |
| 12:16.25 | Sbroker` | http://i.imgur.com/FLOPZ7u.png my web whatssap in debian |
| 12:17.03 | *** join/#debian magnulu (~magnulu@46.246.20.149) |
| 12:17.15 | Arahael | ompaul: You left out a few steps. |
| 12:17.40 | Arahael | ompaul: install, then *update* to the latest, then check out the release notes, THEN change the file. |
| 12:18.58 | ompaul | Arahael: tell the op ;-) |
| 12:18.59 | ompaul | hehe |
| 12:19.04 | ompaul | good catch |
| 12:19.44 | *** join/#debian pacbard (pacbard@gateway/shell/bnc4free/x-rgrpvqcjsfsfueat) |
| 12:20.07 | *** join/#debian KBme (~r00t@jon13-1-82-228-18-48.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 12:22.48 | *** join/#debian MrAlexanB (~MrAlexand@43.232.251.212.customer.cdi.no) |
| 12:23.09 | *** join/#debian wildc4rd (~nick@109.176.231.13) |
| 12:24.16 | *** join/#debian morgue (~morgue@77.123.20.22) |
| 12:24.22 | *** join/#debian nightsh (~nightsh@188.25.186.156) |
| 12:24.24 | *** join/#debian DocMAX (~docmax@g224157044.adsl.alicedsl.de) |
| 12:24.39 | *** join/#debian zir0faive (~zir0faive@cty37-1-78-214-92-19.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 12:25.16 | *** mode/#debian [+o eir] by ChanServ |
| 12:25.32 | *** mode/#debian [-bo *!*@unaffiliated/hgl$##fix_your_connection eir] by eir |
| 12:25.37 | ompaul | oh they awere gone all well |
| 12:25.37 | *** join/#debian Devastatr (~devas@unaffiliated/devastator) |
| 12:25.46 | ompaul | enoparses |
| 12:25.53 | *** join/#debian glyf (~glyf@host-89-241-169-227.as13285.net) |
| 12:26.30 | *** join/#debian panarama (~panarama@103.244.188.121) |
| 12:26.59 | *** join/#debian joo-_ (~joo@94.144.63.217) |
| 12:27.35 | *** join/#debian Cantodea (be732ba3@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.190.115.43.163) |
| 12:27.49 | *** join/#debian Known_problems (~Known_pro@177.129.224.8) |
| 12:28.15 | *** join/#debian evilman_home (kvirc@89-179-77-66.broadband.corbina.ru) |
| 12:28.45 | *** join/#debian CeBe (~CeBe@port-92-200-77-88.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 12:32.03 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1497] by debhelper |
| 12:33.42 | *** join/#debian jetho (~jens@191.242.128.209) |
| 12:34.33 | *** join/#debian TuxBrother (~TuxBrothe@ip565f9a1c.direct-adsl.nl) |
| 12:34.48 | *** join/#debian panarama (~panarama@103.244.188.121) |
| 12:36.56 | *** join/#debian spire (~spire@catv-86-101-147-141.catv.broadband.hu) |
| 12:36.57 | *** join/#debian stakewinner00 (~stakewinn@114.94.15.37.dynamic.jazztel.es) |
| 12:37.03 | *** join/#debian X-Sleepy-X (~x_sleepy_@c213-89-187-7.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 12:38.38 | *** join/#debian Bitcho (~jperez@unaffiliated/bitcho) |
| 12:42.25 | *** join/#debian ragedragon_ (~ragedrago@hus54-1-78-214-148-27.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 12:42.39 | *** join/#debian shadowe989 (~shadowe98@184.9.189.122) |
| 12:46.04 | *** join/#debian MasterPiece (~MasterPie@unaffiliated/masterpiece) |
| 12:46.08 | *** join/#debian panarama (~panarama@103.244.188.121) |
| 12:46.20 | *** join/#debian maddoc (~maddoc@h-246-9.a328.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 12:46.22 | *** join/#debian chatsiri_ (~chatsiri_@119-46-191-21.static.asianet.co.th) |
| 12:46.40 | *** join/#debian pvoigt_ (~znc@unaffiliated/pvoigt) |
| 12:46.58 | *** join/#debian ecksun (xun@h-60-100.a213.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 12:47.49 | *** join/#debian jordila (~jordi@host28.190-224-151.telecom.net.ar) |
| 12:47.56 | *** join/#debian macrobat (~beep@h-39-187.a328.priv.bahnhof.se) |
| 12:52.36 | *** join/#debian diniwed1 (~gavron@pool-72-89-149-89.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) |
| 12:53.15 | *** join/#debian chatsiri_ (~chatsiri_@119-46-191-20.static.asianet.co.th) |
| 12:53.53 | *** join/#debian haxi (~quassel@anon-41-108.vpn.ipredator.se) |
| 12:53.57 | *** join/#debian Brigo (~Brigo@199.Red-88-21-111.staticIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 12:54.02 | *** join/#debian accumulator (~kvirc@i65155.upc-i.chello.nl) |
| 12:55.37 | *** join/#debian CheckDavid (uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-otbpfnhnldbhqkvs) |
| 12:55.43 | *** join/#debian tsun (~tsun@24-205-58-104.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com) |
| 12:57.08 | *** join/#debian format_c (~format_c@2001:4dd0:ff00:8421:224:2bff:fe69:c29b) |
| 12:57.09 | *** join/#debian Volatix (~Volatix@188.53.18.137) |
| 12:58.26 | *** join/#debian Siente (Siente@78.83.27.76) |
| 12:59.02 | *** join/#debian Volatix (~Volatix@188.53.18.137) |
| 12:59.19 | *** join/#debian celyne_ (59587793@gateway/web/freenode/ip.89.88.119.147) |
| 12:59.42 | *** join/#debian colonolGron (~quassel@244-130.106-92.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 13:00.55 | *** join/#debian fstd (~fstd@unaffiliated/fisted) |
| 13:02.40 | *** join/#debian dArK_IcE (~DARKICEPT@a95-92-107-215.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 13:03.17 | *** join/#debian iflema (~weechat@CPE-58-166-73-36.lnse5.cht.bigpond.net.au) |
| 13:03.24 | *** join/#debian wonderworld (~ww@ip-62-143-156-254.hsi01.unitymediagroup.de) |
| 13:04.03 | *** join/#debian ToApolytoXaos (~ToApolyto@46.21.62.128) |
| 13:05.48 | *** join/#debian nislova (kvirc@5.144.74.10) |
| 13:07.34 | *** join/#debian Voyager_MP (~michel@port-92-198-130-78.static.qsc.de) |
| 13:07.43 | *** join/#debian Bierdieb (~Bierdieb@p4FE0584F.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 13:10.08 | *** join/#debian mienski (~mienski@c210-49-213-254.lowrp3.vic.optusnet.com.au) |
| 13:12.01 | *** join/#debian flux242 (~chatzilla@89.204.139.95) |
| 13:12.45 | *** join/#debian panarama (~panarama@103.244.188.121) |
| 13:15.29 | *** join/#debian knosys (~knosys@unaffiliated/knosys) |
| 13:19.48 | *** join/#debian iflema_ (~weechat@CPE-58-166-73-36.lnse5.cht.bigpond.net.au) |
| 13:21.31 | *** join/#debian SOUL_OF_R00T (~leo@177-130-132-27.mastercabo.com.br) |
| 13:21.31 | *** join/#debian SOUL_OF_R00T (~leo@unaffiliated/soul-of-r00t/x-4421326) |
| 13:21.38 | *** join/#debian esu (~esu@unaffiliated/esu) |
| 13:23.56 | *** join/#debian alexei___ (~amgarchin@p4FD63B91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 13:24.58 | *** join/#debian raspberrypifan (~raspberry@186.46.75.106) |
| 13:25.06 | *** join/#debian kkvlk (~kkvlk@r167-57-11-119.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 13:25.32 | *** join/#debian MarcoZink (~marcozink@189.205.13.46) |
| 13:25.35 | *** join/#debian doev (~doev@p4FE12677.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 13:27.09 | *** join/#debian panarama (~panarama@103.244.188.121) |
| 13:29.26 | *** join/#debian iflema (~weechat@CPE-58-166-73-36.lnse5.cht.bigpond.net.au) |
| 13:29.46 | *** join/#debian autochthon (~autochtho@0170300545.0.fullrate.dk) |
| 13:32.44 | *** join/#debian mypapit (~mypapit@175.140.4.98) |
| 13:32.53 | *** join/#debian onorua (~onorua@49.146.169.210) |
| 13:33.02 | *** join/#debian YamakasY (YamakasY__@37.247.48.142) |
| 13:36.29 | *** join/#debian panarama (~panarama@103.244.188.121) |
| 13:36.29 | *** join/#debian Known_problems (~Known_pro@189-48-124-84.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 13:36.55 | *** join/#debian SPF|Cloud (uid11755@wikipedia/Southparkfan) |
| 13:39.33 | *** join/#debian colonolGron (~quassel@244-130.106-92.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 13:41.07 | *** join/#debian grobda24 (~grobda24-@silentflame/member/grobda24) |
| 13:42.53 | *** join/#debian Volatix (~Volatix@188.53.18.137) |
| 13:44.38 | *** join/#debian Volatix (~Volatix@188.53.18.137) |
| 13:45.00 | *** join/#debian YAMAMOTO (~chatzilla@197.153.209.210) |
| 13:48.27 | *** join/#debian dvs (~Me@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 13:48.53 | *** join/#debian maesrin (~maesrin@2a02:580:42f9:dd00:35df:2e1b:d044:238b) |
| 13:51.38 | *** join/#debian Ericx2x (~textual@209-6-40-131.c3-0.smr-ubr1.sbo-smr.ma.cable.rcn.com) |
| 13:51.54 | *** join/#debian panarama (~panarama@103.244.188.121) |
| 13:51.59 | *** join/#debian joo-_ (~joo@94.144.63.222) |
| 13:52.23 | *** join/#debian Orbitrix (~Huevos@c-69-254-153-231.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) |
| 13:52.46 | *** join/#debian Orbitrix (~Huevos@c-69-254-153-231.hsd1.nm.comcast.net) |
| 13:53.08 | *** join/#debian TyrfingMjolnir (~Tyrfing@90.149.219.126) |
| 13:55.56 | *** join/#debian Known_problems (~Known_pro@152.237.218.206) |
| 13:57.16 | *** join/#debian Loaft (~asdasdsd@65.94.55.127) |
| 13:57.25 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@dpc6744169158.direcpc.com) |
| 13:59.10 | *** join/#debian panarama (~panarama@103.244.188.121) |
| 14:00.07 | *** join/#debian thunderrd (~thunderrd@110.78.139.242) |
| 14:00.45 | *** join/#debian ryan-au_ (~quassel@27-33-47-87.static.tpgi.com.au) |
| 14:01.40 | *** join/#debian [BNC]Savemech (Savemech@unaffiliated/savemech) |
| 14:02.21 | *** join/#debian no_gravity (~user@unaffiliated/no-gravity/x-0632109) |
| 14:02.36 | no_gravity | Hello! Can I assign the right shift key to act as ctrl? |
| 14:02.41 | *** join/#debian dm7freek (~dm7freek@2601:8:b280:79:69b5:a0d0:ddf8:2c3e) |
| 14:02.59 | *** join/#debian esu (~esu@unaffiliated/esu) |
| 14:03.23 | Walex | no_gravity: yes. |
| 14:03.31 | *** join/#debian esu (~esu@unaffiliated/esu) |
| 14:03.40 | no_gravity | thinking about it, it might not be a good idea. |
| 14:03.44 | no_gravity | i sometimes use it. |
| 14:03.51 | no_gravity | i wonder where i could put the ctrl key |
| 14:03.57 | Walex | no_gravity: caps? |
| 14:04.05 | no_gravity | i use caps a esc already. |
| 14:04.20 | Walex | no_gravity: windows-key? |
| 14:04.36 | no_gravity | yes, that might work |
| 14:04.49 | Walex | no_gravity: menu-key? (on the right) |
| 14:05.14 | no_gravity | yes, both are slightly better reachable then the ctrl key |
| 14:05.20 | no_gravity | how would i do the remapping? |
| 14:05.27 | *** join/#debian pikachuza (~mark@105-237-214-144.access.mtnbusiness.co.za) |
| 14:05.30 | Walex | the left Windows-key is often useful as "Super". I have never found much use for the right Windows-key or the Menu key |
| 14:05.43 | no_gravity | i never touched the left windows key in my life |
| 14:05.51 | no_gravity | and i dont even have a right windows key |
| 14:06.27 | *** join/#debian panarama (~panarama@103.244.188.121) |
| 14:06.58 | *** join/#debian winterss (~wint@c-71-228-128-169.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 14:07.01 | Walex | no_gravity: depends on whether on console or X11. If X11 use 'man 7 xkeyboard-config' |
| 14:07.13 | no_gravity | there is a setting in gnome "ctrl is mapped to win keys" but it seems to have no impact. |
| 14:07.36 | no_gravity | i use the gnome keyboard dialog to configure caps. and it works nicely. |
| 14:07.58 | no_gravity | oh, it works for the win key too! |
| 14:08.15 | Walex | I use the left-Window key as "Super" to bind window manager actions that operate on windows, like maximize vertically/horizontally, switch virtual desktop, minimize, ... |
| 14:08.33 | Walex | no_gravity: yes, the GNOME tool does that too |
| 14:08.36 | no_gravity | yeah, i can imagine that being useful |
| 14:08.54 | *** join/#debian ongolaBoy (~ongolaBoy@unaffiliated/ongolaboy) |
| 14:09.20 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@dpc6744169158.direcpc.com) |
| 14:09.45 | *** join/#debian yokO- (~thefroggy@ip-62-241-68-218.evc.net) |
| 14:10.21 | kale | can i use wheezy backports and select a single package? |
| 14:10.31 | dvs | yes |
| 14:10.45 | kale | dvs: can you point me to a guide on that? |
| 14:10.52 | *** join/#debian soulz (~soulz@zen.luflow.net) |
| 14:10.57 | dvs | !backports |
| 14:10.58 | dpkg | A backport is a package from a newer Debian branch, compiled from source for an older branch to avoid dependency and <ABI> complications. http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch02.en.html (2.7.4 and 2.7.10), http://backports.debian.org/ . Ask me about <debian-backports> and <backport caveat>. See also <simple sid backport>. |
| 14:11.26 | dvs | !tell kale about debian-backports |
| 14:11.36 | kale | dvs: thanks |
| 14:14.04 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@dpc6744169158.direcpc.com) |
| 14:14.48 | *** join/#debian frew (~frew@li490-218.members.linode.com) |
| 14:14.58 | frew | hey guys, I'm trying to set the default locale programmatically. |
| 14:15.03 | frew | I have this written, but it never works: http://paste.scsys.co.uk/458231 |
| 14:15.04 | *** join/#debian mirage335 (~mirage335@mirage335.dyndns.org) |
| 14:15.09 | frew | as far as I can tell, locales are ONLY generated when the user does not use the non-interactive mode |
| 14:15.34 | frew | fwiw I've also tried setting seen to false and true |
| 14:15.37 | frew | no luck either way |
| 14:16.19 | *** join/#debian ct0 (~ct0@pool-98-109-77-63.nwrknj.fios.verizon.net) |
| 14:16.40 | *** join/#debian Kabukky (~kabukky@lbck-5f7787c5.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 14:17.58 | *** join/#debian Zvmdyv (~Zvmdyv@unaffiliated/zvmdyv) |
| 14:19.33 | *** join/#debian Known_problems (~Known_pro@186.247.205.89) |
| 14:19.41 | *** join/#debian Rezachkata (~Rezachkat@213.240.252.233) |
| 14:20.05 | *** join/#debian gammaleak (~gammaleak@cpe-98-144-75-181.wi.res.rr.com) |
| 14:23.32 | *** join/#debian Griff`Lebron (~Griff`Ron@67.170.89.146) |
| 14:24.57 | *** join/#debian digitalZombie (~knikolov@debian.kristiyan.net) |
| 14:28.15 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@dpc6744169158.direcpc.com) |
| 14:28.20 | Walex | frew: "set the default locale programmatically" what does that mean? |
| 14:28.43 | frew | Walex: well, have you run dpkg-reconfigure locales before? |
| 14:29.05 | frew | Walex: basically, what that does, but without the question and answer, just... set it |
| 14:29.13 | *** join/#debian hgl (~hgl@unaffiliated/hgl) |
| 14:29.19 | *** join/#debian stpd (~stpd@109.128.237.255) |
| 14:29.24 | Walex | frew: in the Debian Installer? |
| 14:29.27 | frew | no |
| 14:29.33 | frew | from the commandline |
| 14:29.52 | Walex | frew: that's an ambitious task :-) |
| 14:29.57 | frew | why? |
| 14:30.13 | Walex | frew: define "default locale" |
| 14:30.30 | frew | the answer to the second question that it asks in interactive mode |
| 14:30.56 | Walex | frew: what is "it" in this context? |
| 14:31.09 | frew | what I would have expected debconf-set-selections < "locales locales/default_environment_locale select en_US.UTF-8" to do |
| 14:31.14 | frew | dpkg-reconfigure |
| 14:32.14 | *** join/#debian paragon (~paragon@73.12.11.95) |
| 14:32.28 | *** join/#debian flux242 (~chatzilla@89.204.130.108) |
| 14:32.34 | *** join/#debian StaticLNX (~static@2605:e000:1417:24b:38ee:9974:bfc5:2571) |
| 14:32.43 | Walex | frew: since the "default locale" is set in an environment variable at login, do you need 'dpkg-reconfigure' to do that? |
| 14:33.02 | frew | I do, because setting an env var is not what I care about, generating the actual locale data is what I need |
| 14:33.08 | *** join/#debian lord_rob (~robert@194.142-242-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 14:33.08 | *** join/#debian lord_rob (~robert@unaffiliated/lord-rob/x-573835) |
| 14:33.19 | *** join/#debian LRN (~LRN@broadband-95-84-200-6.nationalcablenetworks.ru) |
| 14:33.33 | *** join/#debian nighty-_ (~nighty@hokuriku.rural-networks.com) |
| 14:34.01 | Walex | frew: but that's not at all "set the default locale programmatically", you have completely confused me. |
| 14:34.18 | frew | ok maybe I should ask the question more generically |
| 14:34.24 | frew | I want to non-interactively run dpkg-reconfigure |
| 14:34.35 | frew | the details at least *shouldn't be* important |
| 14:34.41 | *** join/#debian Rezachkata (~Rezachkat@213.240.252.233) |
| 14:36.37 | *** join/#debian darthanubis (~darthanub@unaffiliated/darthanubis) |
| 14:36.42 | Walex | frew: you seem fond to ask bizarrely worded questions, which is not good for getting useful help. |
| 14:36.46 | Bierdieb | o/ Ahoi. I ve some massive problems running out of diskspace on /home. And i didnt store much stuff on it. Ive got no clue how to investigate the problem. |
| 14:37.09 | frew | W |
| 14:37.26 | Walex | frew: 'dpkg-reconfigure' as 'man dpkg-reconfigure' makes really clear it is *interactive* frontend to DebConf. It is not designed to run noninteractively. |
| 14:37.43 | frew | Walex: yet it has a noninteractive frontend |
| 14:37.45 | mtn | Bierdieb: du is a useful tool |
| 14:37.51 | *** join/#debian LRN (~LRN@broadband-95-84-200-6.nationalcablenetworks.ru) |
| 14:37.59 | Walex | frew: perhaps reading 'man 7 debconf' especially "Unattended Package Installation" would be helpful |
| 14:38.11 | frew | Walex: my ultimate goal is this: http://serverfault.com/a/662037/12122 |
| 14:38.13 | grobda24 | Hi, still having a problem with upgrading packages. apt-get and aptitude *never* show any new versions of packages even though I see a new version of (for example) "caja" (Mate Desktop) at https://www.debian.org the old version is *always* shown in my package manager. |
| 14:38.21 | frew | I am blown away at how non-trivial this is |
| 14:38.24 | frew | Walex: ok, will look |
| 14:39.15 | Walex | frew: I suspect that you want to use 'dpkg-preconfigure', but I don't really understand what you are trying to achieve. |
| 14:39.27 | grobda24 | I've tried changing the mirror - no difference. Have closely checked sources.list. I *did* install some packages manually at some point using "dpkg -i" |
| 14:39.36 | *** join/#debian gusnan (~gusnan@s213-100-228-162.cust.tele2.se) |
| 14:39.45 | frew | Walex: what's so confusing? I'm trying to do what dpkg-reconfigure locales does, but without user interaction |
| 14:39.46 | frew | that is all |
| 14:39.52 | grobda24 | petn-randall, ? |
| 14:40.22 | petn-randall | ,v caja |
| 14:40.23 | judd | Package: caja on i386 -- wheezy-backports: 1.8.1-2~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.8.2-1; sid: 1.8.2-1 |
| 14:40.27 | grobda24 | should have said https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages |
| 14:40.42 | petn-randall | grobda24: What is the output of 'apt-cache policy caja'? |
| 14:40.44 | *** join/#debian err404 (~err404@62-210-205-221.rev.poneytelecom.eu) |
| 14:41.05 | Walex | grobda24: perhaps you are not fully aware of what "stable" means |
| 14:41.07 | frew | honestly, I'm like, 95% sure debconf-set-selections is what I want, but it just doesn't seem to apply |
| 14:41.12 | *** join/#debian panarama (~panarama@103.244.188.121) |
| 14:41.28 | grobda24 | Walex, I'm using testing |
| 14:41.43 | *** join/#debian Rajsun (~TheRaj@42.61.235.93) |
| 14:42.00 | *** join/#debian Known_problems (~Known_pro@186.244.149.138) |
| 14:42.02 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1504] by debhelper |
| 14:42.06 | grobda24 | petn-randall, http://paste.debian.net/142102/ |
| 14:43.13 | petn-randall | grobda24: Do you have any pinning in /etc/apt/preferences{,.d/*}? |
| 14:43.37 | petn-randall | grobda24: /etc/apt/preferences or /etc/apt/preferences.d/* |
| 14:43.41 | grobda24 | judd, yeah, I always have "1.8.1-2" showing as the update (ie no update as that is the version installed). |
| 14:44.06 | petn-randall | grobda24: judd is a bot, it responded to my request. |
| 14:44.06 | Walex | frew: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=684134 seems relevant |
| 14:44.34 | frew | aha |
| 14:44.40 | frew | ok so I can't get it to work because it's broken |
| 14:44.44 | grobda24 | petn-randall, ha ha ... it should say hello ... anyway ... are thos just directories with files in them to check ? |
| 14:45.10 | frew | Walex: thanks |
| 14:45.11 | petn-randall | judd: are you a bot? |
| 14:45.20 | petn-randall | dpkg: are you a bot? |
| 14:45.20 | dpkg | I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse). |
| 14:45.35 | grobda24 | lol |
| 14:45.59 | *** join/#debian sydney (~sydney@199.96.49.160) |
| 14:45.59 | *** join/#debian sydney (~sydney@unaffiliated/sydney) |
| 14:46.09 | grobda24 | petn-randall, its just the "{,.d/*}" confused me |
| 14:46.31 | petn-randall | grobda24: That's why I clarified with /etc/apt/preferences or /etc/apt/preferences.d/*. |
| 14:46.42 | grobda24 | k |
| 14:47.42 | Walex | frew: I have been a bit confused, but eventually I understood what you wanted. |
| 14:47.49 | grobda24 | petn-randall, there's one file "mate" - http://paste.debian.net/142103/ |
| 14:48.03 | frew | yeah I still don't see what was unclear, but w/e |
| 14:48.26 | petn-randall | grobda24: Yeah, that's pinning testing to lower than your current packages. Which is why you never see updates. |
| 14:48.33 | petn-randall | grobda24: Did you put that file there? |
| 14:48.44 | *** part/#debian no_gravity (~user@unaffiliated/no-gravity/x-0632109) |
| 14:48.46 | frew | awesome, so basically, this works: echo "en_US.UTF-8 UTF-8" > /etc/locale.gen && locale-gen |
| 14:48.52 | frew | Walex: thanks again, all is well |
| 14:48.54 | grobda24 | petn-randall, no ... don't know how it got there |
| 14:48.57 | *** join/#debian Kabukky (~kabukky@lbck-5f7787c5.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 14:48.58 | *** join/#debian theshadow (~theshadow@24.8.4.50) |
| 14:49.03 | grobda24 | delete ? |
| 14:49.42 | petn-randall | grobda24: You don't need that file, it's harmful the way it's set up. By the way, no need to use a 3rd party repo, MATE is already in the Debian repositories. |
| 14:50.11 | grobda24 | Yes, I'm using MATE from debian |
| 14:50.16 | grobda24 | ... and is that only blocking mate or my entire apt system, as I never see updates for anything |
| 14:51.07 | *** join/#debian txomon|home (~txomon@unaffiliated/txomon) |
| 14:51.13 | petn-randall | grobda24: It's basically saying "hey, every package you see in testing has a lower priority than the ones you have installed." |
| 14:51.23 | *** join/#debian L0aD1nG (~L0aD1nG@gateway/tor-sasl/l0ad1ng) |
| 14:51.32 | Walex | frew: yes that is what it all amounts to, I was confused because you seemed to be doing something simple in a very complicated way |
| 14:51.34 | petn-randall | grobda24: You have testing pinned to 10, and installed packages by default have a priority of 100. |
| 14:52.22 | grobda24 | petn-randall, wow ... so now "upgrade" is doing something, although I have some dependencies to fix "nvidia-visual-profiler : Depends: nvidia-profiler (= 6.0.37-5) but 5.5.22-3 is to be installed" |
| 14:52.38 | grobda24 | ... but I should be able to take it from here for the moment |
| 14:52.44 | winterss | hi all |
| 14:53.04 | petn-randall | grobda24: ok, happy hacking. |
| 14:53.08 | grobda24 | thanks ... petn-randall ... had this problem going since ~8 months ago, but other concerns got in the way :) |
| 14:53.35 | *** join/#debian tomaw_ (tom@freenode/staff/tomaw) |
| 14:54.48 | Walex | grobda24: but also note that currently 'testing' is "frozen" as a new release is soon happening |
| 14:55.35 | grobda24 | Walex, so it is frozen ! Someone would not tell me that the other day. Anyway I'm about 8 months behind in package updates :O |
| 14:55.59 | petn-randall | grobda24: It's probably also a good idea to remove the 3rd party repo, since it's of little gain and has the potential to break your packages. |
| 14:56.28 | grobda24 | petn-randall, yes, thanks |
| 14:56.33 | Walex | grobda24: "petn-randall" is a bit too kind :-), but I would also point out that if you cannot solve APT issues by yourself perhaps you should not be using "testing" anyhow |
| 14:57.21 | grobda24 | Walex, believe me I'm lucky to be even sitting in front of this monitor :} |
| 14:57.33 | *** join/#debian GGMethos (~methos@2a02:418:6a04:178:209:40:77:1) |
| 14:58.26 | *** join/#debian Siente_ (Siente@78.83.27.76) |
| 15:00.04 | *** join/#debian sllide (~yeap@107.170.37.181) |
| 15:01.38 | *** join/#debian mah454 (~quassel@188.245.230.246) |
| 15:04.01 | *** join/#debian smw_ (~smw@unaffiliated/smw) |
| 15:04.25 | *** join/#debian sydney_ (~sydney@199.96.49.160) |
| 15:04.34 | *** join/#debian buddhaphomet (~buddhapho@1-19-190-109.dsl.ovh.fr) |
| 15:05.08 | *** join/#debian xauth (9969@xs8.xs4all.nl) |
| 15:07.08 | *** join/#debian gusnan (~gusnan@s213-100-228-162.cust.tele2.se) |
| 15:11.31 | sydney_laptop | What is a recomended Windows application to put debian on a cd? |
| 15:11.48 | sydney_laptop | I used one a while back and cannot remember the name |
| 15:11.49 | SirLagz | sydney_laptop: what do you mean by put Debian onto a cd ? |
| 15:11.52 | *** join/#debian panarama (~panarama@103.244.188.121) |
| 15:11.59 | sydney_laptop | Put an .iso on a cd |
| 15:12.06 | sydney_laptop | A program just for doing that. |
| 15:12.08 | SirLagz | sydney_laptop: Windows can do it natively nowadays |
| 15:12.23 | mtn | !win32diskimager |
| 15:12.24 | dpkg | win32diskimager is much more reliable than <unetbootin> for copying ISO images to USB sticks and you can download it from http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ . Adjust the file mask from *.img to *.* if it doesn't show our .iso images. See <usb install> and <install debian> for further details. |
| 15:12.27 | osram | sydney_laptop: can't you just right-click the ISO and select `burn to CD' or something? |
| 15:12.34 | sydney_laptop | Im not running a nowadays computer :P |
| 15:12.39 | sydney_laptop | Windows 7, yes. |
| 15:12.43 | sydney_laptop | vista? |
| 15:12.45 | *** join/#debian Tom01 (~tom@p5DDFD175.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 15:12.50 | SirLagz | I thought Vista could do it |
| 15:12.57 | sydney_laptop | Nope. |
| 15:12.57 | osram | sydney_laptop: 7 can |
| 15:13.10 | SirLagz | sydney_laptop: in that case, I'd just google for ISO burning program lol |
| 15:13.24 | sydney_laptop | That sounds risky :P |
| 15:13.30 | SirLagz | sydney_laptop: lol |
| 15:13.36 | SirLagz | there's a really good free one |
| 15:13.39 | SirLagz | but I forget the name |
| 15:13.44 | *** join/#debian raspberrypifan (~raspberry@186.47.3.154) |
| 15:14.00 | SirLagz | sydney_laptop: imgburn |
| 15:14.01 | mtn | win32diskimager like the bot just talked about |
| 15:14.19 | osram | sydney_laptop: http://www.freeisoburner.com/ |
| 15:14.36 | *** join/#debian kepta (~kepta@14.139.122.114) |
| 15:15.16 | sydney_laptop | ok. |
| 15:17.25 | sydney_laptop | :) |
| 15:18.42 | *** join/#debian Montar0 (montaro@eth1483.qld.adsl.internode.on.net) |
| 15:19.10 | *** join/#debian Damiox (~damiox@unaffiliated/damiox) |
| 15:21.18 | *** join/#debian MarcoZink (~marcozink@189.205.13.46) |
| 15:22.00 | Damiox | Hi. I'm experiencing an issue with Steam in jessie after installing virtualbox (and linux-headers), and rebooting my system. Basically all games are crashing. I've been installing everything through apt-get. I wanted to know if, in theory, I roll back what I installed, my system should be working as if I have never installed those pkgs... Does it make sense? |
| 15:22.39 | *** join/#debian teraflops (~teraflops@77.225.225.204) |
| 15:22.53 | *** join/#debian sai (0e8bc6a3@gateway/web/freenode/ip.14.139.198.163) |
| 15:24.37 | *** join/#debian format_c (~format_c@2001:4dd0:ff00:8421:6e62:6dff:fe4a:e47d) |
| 15:24.51 | sai | Hello can anyone help me in getting the gpg key to send to server? |
| 15:25.14 | *** join/#debian panarama (~panarama@103.244.188.121) |
| 15:25.59 | *** join/#debian n-st (~n-st@2001:470:7272:0:a93f:9b36:21de:6ef) |
| 15:26.17 | *** join/#debian c4rbonix (~c4rbonix@unaffiliated/c4rbonix) |
| 15:26.23 | nkuttler | Damiox: try it and see? |
| 15:26.30 | *** join/#debian brentaarnold (~brentaarn@sugartown-109.camtel.net) |
| 15:26.45 | nkuttler | Damiox: fwiw, testing support is in #debian-next on oftc, or try #steamlug here on freenode |
| 15:27.13 | osram | sai: gpg --send-keys <key-id> --keyserver <keyserver> |
| 15:27.59 | Damiox | nkuttler: my 2nd question was going to be how can I roll back them.. just applying apt-get remove --purge to them? |
| 15:28.03 | *** join/#debian tdn (~tdn@syrah.adora.dk) |
| 15:28.30 | nkuttler | Damiox: well, it depends, but yes, that's a good start |
| 15:28.58 | *** join/#debian jolt (jolt@0x2a.se) |
| 15:29.07 | sai | osram, Thanks what should I mention in <keyserver>? is it subkeys.pgp.net ? |
| 15:29.27 | Damiox | nkuttler: bc I did that. but it kept crashing, so I did a fresh-install. Should I report this to have a look ? |
| 15:30.08 | *** join/#debian f10_ (~flo@77.87.48.182) |
| 15:30.13 | osram | sai: up to you. I usually use pool.sks-keyservers.net, fwiw |
| 15:30.21 | nkuttler | Damiox: no, please ask in the appropriate channels first |
| 15:30.36 | *** join/#debian aka_007 (~aka_007@14.139.82.6) |
| 15:30.50 | *** part/#debian aka_007 (~aka_007@14.139.82.6) |
| 15:30.51 | Damiox | nkuttler: yes u right... thank you |
| 15:35.06 | *** join/#debian choonming (~choonming@210.195.219.75) |
| 15:35.20 | *** part/#debian sdouble25 (~stephan@dslb-088-070-090-126.088.070.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 15:35.38 | *** join/#debian med\_ (~med@105.104.8.143) |
| 15:37.09 | sai | osram, its giving a keyserver error when i use pool.sks-keyservers.net |
| 15:37.25 | *** join/#debian pikachuza (~mark@105-237-214-144.access.mtnbusiness.co.za) |
| 15:37.35 | *** join/#debian panarama (~panarama@103.244.188.121) |
| 15:38.13 | *** join/#debian patterson (~patterson@c-50-174-179-173.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 15:38.25 | *** join/#debian pikachuza (~mark@105-237-214-144.access.mtnbusiness.co.za) |
| 15:39.35 | osram | sai: try `hkp://pool.sks-keyservers.net' |
| 15:39.59 | *** join/#debian paranoids (~markus@amd.paranoids.at) |
| 15:43.51 | *** join/#debian skamikaze (~basti@p54A8D261.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 15:43.52 | *** join/#debian skamikaze (~basti@unaffiliated/skamikaze) |
| 15:43.59 | *** join/#debian antix- (~rewt@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/skarface) |
| 15:44.48 | *** join/#debian teraflops (~teraflops@77.225.225.204) |
| 15:47.56 | *** join/#debian daniel-s (~daniel-s@mu00053769.eng.monash.edu.au) |
| 15:49.19 | *** join/#debian delsvr (~delsvr@cpe-72-229-96-46.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 15:49.45 | *** part/#debian frew (~frew@li490-218.members.linode.com) |
| 15:51.40 | *** join/#debian dm7freek (~dm7freek@2601:8:b280:79:1457:3b11:5433:9142) |
| 15:52.16 | *** join/#debian adb (~IonMoldov@2a02:120b:2c0b:96c0:baac:6fff:fe67:305f) |
| 15:52.57 | *** join/#debian astrofog (~astrofog@unaffiliated/astrofog) |
| 15:53.03 | *** join/#debian StaticLNX (~static@2605:e000:1417:24b:38ee:9974:bfc5:2571) |
| 15:54.30 | *** join/#debian f10__ (~flo@ip5b4034d8.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) |
| 15:56.03 | *** join/#debian Known_problems (~Known_pro@187-41-246-176.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 15:56.06 | *** join/#debian panarama (~panarama@103.244.188.121) |
| 15:59.05 | *** part/#debian c4rbonix (~c4rbonix@unaffiliated/c4rbonix) |
| 15:59.27 | *** join/#debian christoffer (~christoff@c83-179-12-54.cust.tele2.se) |
| 15:59.46 | *** join/#debian Known_problems (~Known_pro@187-41-246-176.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 16:00.11 | sai | Hey osram the same issue persists it says <>not a key ID:skipping and then sending ... then keyserver timed out and finally keyserver error ? Do you have any solution? |
| 16:01.16 | *** join/#debian flux242 (~chatzilla@89.204.130.108) |
| 16:01.17 | *** join/#debian kepta (~kepta@14.139.122.114) |
| 16:01.31 | *** join/#debian Darkalia (~Darkalia@saidar.allot.fr) |
| 16:01.55 | *** join/#debian tsun (~tsun@24-205-58-104.dhcp.gldl.ca.charter.com) |
| 16:02.18 | *** join/#debian Dr_Cool (~chatzilla@2a01:e35:2434:8220:ec31:da68:711f:e3c2) |
| 16:05.53 | *** join/#debian hanfm (~Thunderbi@koln-4d0425c9.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 16:06.35 | *** join/#debian kkvlk_ (~kkvlk@r167-57-2-147.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 16:08.27 | *** join/#debian panarama (~panarama@103.244.188.121) |
| 16:11.50 | *** join/#debian autochthon (~autochtho@0170300545.0.fullrate.dk) |
| 16:12.06 | *** join/#debian jabbslad_ (sid25161@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-nnjriahbkooympam) |
| 16:14.07 | *** join/#debian flux242 (~chatzilla@89.204.130.108) |
| 16:14.36 | *** join/#debian kinoz (~kinoz@37.235.200.200) |
| 16:14.59 | *** join/#debian _Paul (~Paul@p579377DD.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 16:15.45 | *** join/#debian panarama (~panarama@103.244.188.121) |
| 16:15.47 | *** join/#debian Sia- (~Sia@unaffiliated/desian) |
| 16:16.23 | *** join/#debian thunderrd (~thunderrd@110.78.139.242) |
| 16:17.23 | *** join/#debian Trow (~Trow@193.50.79.254) |
| 16:17.46 | *** join/#debian Rezachkata (~Rezachkat@213.240.252.233) |
| 16:19.56 | sai | can anyone help me in sending my gpg key to server? |
| 16:20.14 | elb | I assume you tried --send-keys and it's not doing what you want? |
| 16:20.17 | kinoz | hello i have a question in systemd emergency mode start network but not start sshd. how to add sshd in list services start emergency mode ? |
| 16:20.29 | nkuttler | sai: you're not trying to send your private key, are you? |
| 16:20.58 | *** join/#debian lcafiero (~lcafiero@adsl-76-254-70-70.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 16:21.08 | *** join/#debian HelloShitty (~HelloShit@se-217-129-91-203.netvisao.pt) |
| 16:21.20 | *** join/#debian verri (~verri@2a02:1811:8888:dd00::753) |
| 16:21.24 | *** join/#debian ivaped (~Biifer@c80-216-172-126.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 16:21.32 | *** join/#debian mortale (~mortale@gateway/tor-sasl/mortale) |
| 16:21.43 | *** join/#debian raspberrypifan (~raspberry@181.112.252.160) |
| 16:22.52 | *** join/#debian wildc4rd (~nick@109.176.231.13) |
| 16:22.59 | *** join/#debian panarama (~panarama@103.244.188.121) |
| 16:23.26 | *** join/#debian Griff`Ron (~Griff`Ron@67.170.89.146) |
| 16:23.53 | sai | nkuttler, actually I have created my gpg key but as per the documentation I should send my gpg key gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --send-key<key id>, but its not working |
| 16:24.14 | nkuttler | sai: so what's the error you get? |
| 16:25.01 | kinoz | hey i need help |
| 16:25.03 | kinoz | hello i have a question in systemd emergency mode start network but not start sshd. how to add sshd in list services start emergency mode ? |
| 16:25.09 | sai | nkuttler,gpg: "--keyserver" not a key ID: skipping gpg: "subkeys.pgp.net" not a key ID: skipping gpg: sending key 9C6E6627 to hkp server keys.gnupg.net gpg: keyserver timed out gpg: keyserver send failed: keyserver error |
| 16:25.30 | *** join/#debian adellam (~adellam@pdpc/supporter/active/adellam) |
| 16:26.46 | *** join/#debian penna (~penna@p4FE216C7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 16:28.29 | *** join/#debian MidnightCommande (MidnightCo@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe50:c0af) |
| 16:28.32 | *** join/#debian Bitcho (~jperez@unaffiliated/bitcho) |
| 16:29.21 | *** join/#debian Damiox (~damiox@unaffiliated/damiox) |
| 16:29.49 | nkuttler | sai: if you get "--keyserver" not a key ID it sounds like you misused the command |
| 16:30.04 | nkuttler | gpg seems to think --keyserver is a key id.. |
| 16:30.12 | nkuttler | !tell sai about paste |
| 16:30.47 | *** join/#debian jackbrown (~se@93-44-68-248.ip96.fastwebnet.it) |
| 16:32.18 | *** join/#debian panarama (~panarama@103.244.188.121) |
| 16:33.24 | Bitcho | is away: En estos momentos estoy lejos del teclado. |
| 16:33.44 | *** join/#debian SDK (~ian@63.sub-70-197-224.myvzw.com) |
| 16:33.53 | *** join/#debian CookieM (~tomek@afbd117.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 16:33.53 | Bitcho | is back (gone 00:00:28) |
| 16:34.01 | *** join/#debian MidnightCommande (MidnightCo@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe50:c0af) |
| 16:34.25 | *** join/#debian Merixer (~Merixer@2001:470:deb8:162:e45f:52fb:3a3f:402f) |
| 16:36.14 | *** join/#debian onorua (~onorua@49.146.169.210) |
| 16:36.45 | nkuttler | Bitcho: please turn that off |
| 16:36.47 | *** join/#debian choonming_ (~choonming@210.195.219.75) |
| 16:37.02 | *** join/#debian adellam (~adellam@pdpc/supporter/active/adellam) |
| 16:37.49 | Bitcho | nkuttler, only test, keep the calm |
| 16:38.29 | nkuttler | Bitcho: it's against channel policy, please be polite |
| 16:40.48 | *** join/#debian gnoid (~gnoid@85.26.183.206) |
| 16:41.05 | Bitcho | ya ya ya ... it's ok .... |
| 16:41.08 | *** join/#debian lewnidas_ (~lewnidas_@193.92.35.114.dsl.dyn.forthnet.gr) |
| 16:42.03 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1512] by debhelper |
| 16:42.05 | *** join/#debian DaniGemini (~DaniGemin@86.125.246.33) |
| 16:43.25 | *** join/#debian PryMar56 (~prymar@unaffiliated/prymar56) |
| 16:43.57 | *** join/#debian mikul (~mikul@c83-248-245-22.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 16:45.18 | *** join/#debian littlebit (~Thunderbi@ulmg-5d847818.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 16:49.06 | *** join/#debian Alina-malina (~Alina-mal@unaffiliated/alina-malina) |
| 16:50.56 | *** join/#debian phaer (~phaer@chello080109090232.4.15.wu-wien.teleweb.at) |
| 16:51.07 | *** join/#debian xauth (9969@xs8.xs4all.nl) |
| 16:52.02 | *** part/#debian MidnightCommande (MidnightCo@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe50:c0af) |
| 16:52.26 | *** join/#debian MidnightCommand- (MidnightCo@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe50:c0af) |
| 16:53.01 | *** join/#debian diniwed1 (~gavron@pool-72-89-149-89.nycmny.fios.verizon.net) |
| 16:53.28 | *** join/#debian ghenry (~ghenry@ghenry.plus.com) |
| 16:53.28 | *** join/#debian ghenry (~ghenry@pdpc/supporter/monthlybyte/ghenry) |
| 16:54.23 | *** join/#debian noxious (~a@83.95.135.190) |
| 16:56.55 | *** join/#debian Okitain (~quassel@ppp85-141-91-119.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) |
| 16:57.12 | *** join/#debian auxiliation (~auxiliati@2607:5300:60:1abf:b6f7::1) |
| 16:58.47 | *** join/#debian Siente (Siente@78.83.27.76) |
| 16:58.59 | *** join/#debian Nnel (~Nnel@host217-39-14-122.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 16:59.06 | sai | nkuttler, is there any solution for me |
| 17:00.31 | *** join/#debian Ard1t (~Ardit@109.69.5.107) |
| 17:00.31 | *** join/#debian Ard1t (~Ardit@unaffiliated/ard1t) |
| 17:01.00 | Okitain | Hey people. Does anyone know where Tor-browser questions might be asked? |
| 17:01.19 | *** join/#debian Sia- (~Sia@unaffiliated/desian) |
| 17:02.04 | *** join/#debian Sia- (~Sia@unaffiliated/desian) |
| 17:02.27 | *** join/#debian MidnightCommand- (MidnightCo@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe50:c0af) |
| 17:03.50 | *** join/#debian n2diy (~darryl@24.102.213.51.res-cmts.t132.ptd.net) |
| 17:03.57 | *** join/#debian MidnightCommand- (MidnightCo@2600:3c03::f03c:91ff:fe50:c0af) |
| 17:05.38 | Walex | Okitain: write to the NSA they surely have analyzed it very carefully :-) |
| 17:05.48 | *** join/#debian ivan_ (~Biifer@c80-216-172-126.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 17:07.27 | *** join/#debian MidnightCommand- (~MidnightC@li438-231.members.linode.com) |
| 17:07.36 | *** join/#debian ragedragon_ (~ragedrago@hus54-1-78-214-148-27.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 17:07.48 | *** join/#debian gnoid (~gnoid@185.3.35.2) |
| 17:08.31 | *** join/#debian tormen0815_ (~me@static-176-182-243-1.ncc.abo.bbox.fr) |
| 17:10.03 | hikenboot | hoping someone in here has had luck getting a chroot xwindows display by using Xephyr, I am getting the anoying error DISPLAY not set anyone know how to fix. whats unclear is what command i execute in the chroot and which i execute on the host. |
| 17:10.03 | *** join/#debian _spacecowboy_ (~jonas@212.85.89.179) |
| 17:10.17 | *** join/#debian nislova (kvirc@5.144.74.10) |
| 17:10.20 | *** part/#debian CLaxware (~mirror@5.231.45.214) |
| 17:10.43 | *** join/#debian paragon (~paragon@73.12.11.95) |
| 17:11.12 | *** join/#debian Darryl___ (uid29682@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-jpvelvleqolrckbl) |
| 17:11.47 | *** join/#debian CLaxware (~mirror@5.231.45.214) |
| 17:11.48 | *** join/#debian mikul (~mikul@c83-248-245-22.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 17:12.02 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1521] by debhelper |
| 17:13.40 | *** join/#debian Lorenzo64 (~atomic@adsl-ull-198-44.42-151.net24.it) |
| 17:14.08 | *** join/#debian paragon_ (~paragon@73.12.11.95) |
| 17:14.13 | *** join/#debian panarama (~panarama@103.244.188.121) |
| 17:14.30 | *** join/#debian Damiox (~damiox@unaffiliated/damiox) |
| 17:15.52 | Walex | hikenboot:specify the right value for the '$DISPLAY' environment variable. |
| 17:16.24 | Shadow_7 | hikenboot: you have to set the DISPLAY and XAUTHORITY. And if you're not starting X under the chroot it a bit more complex. |
| 17:17.20 | *** part/#debian CLaxware (~mirror@5.231.45.214) |
| 17:18.21 | Shadow_7 | hikenboot: aka $ export DISPLAY=":0" && export XAUTHORITY="/home/<user>/.Xauthority |
| 17:18.58 | *** join/#debian tekkbuzz (~operator@unaffiliated/tekkbuzz) |
| 17:19.18 | *** part/#debian Damiox (~damiox@unaffiliated/damiox) |
| 17:20.34 | Shadow_7 | plus the .Xauthority needs to be a copy of the file from the user who started X with permissions for the new user. Or use xauth to create the .Xauthority if you have the credentials (xauth list) of the user who started X. |
| 17:21.59 | *** join/#debian MidnightCommand- (~MidnightC@li438-231.members.linode.com) |
| 17:22.02 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1515] by debhelper |
| 17:24.06 | *** join/#debian Havis (~Havis@funtoo/user/havis) |
| 17:25.41 | *** join/#debian galex-713 (~user@2a02-8428-00c4-a300-9df1-6337-79de-e355.rev.sfr.net) |
| 17:26.19 | *** join/#debian kkvlk (~kkvlk@r167-57-2-147.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 17:27.09 | *** join/#debian _0bitcount (~big-byte@81.61.34.185.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 17:29.25 | *** join/#debian Agent_Isai|BNC (~Agent_Isa@gateway/shell/yourbnc/x-cvrvwrrwviwrhsgc) |
| 17:30.33 | *** join/#debian haxi (~quassel@anon-41-108.vpn.ipredator.se) |
| 17:31.29 | *** join/#debian Agent_Isai|BNC (Agent_Isai@gateway/shell/yourbnc/x-usobmrcsgcmgyxoi) |
| 17:31.43 | *** join/#debian chatsiri_ (~chatsiri_@119-46-191-20.static.asianet.co.th) |
| 17:32.55 | *** join/#debian sandman13 (~sandman@110.34.4.99) |
| 17:34.00 | *** join/#debian alexei___ (~amgarchin@p4FD63B91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:35.13 | *** join/#debian vivid (~vivid@unaffiliated/vivid) |
| 17:35.53 | *** join/#debian joo-_ (~joo@94.144.63.222) |
| 17:37.49 | *** join/#debian joo-_ (~joo@94.144.63.222) |
| 17:39.50 | *** join/#debian haxi___ (~quassel@lan31-1-81-56-82-105.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 17:39.54 | *** join/#debian mikul (~mikul@c83-248-245-22.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 17:40.21 | *** join/#debian cdb23ax (~Administr@080075056015.dsl0001.highway.a1.net) |
| 17:40.35 | *** join/#debian trysten (17758d01@gateway/web/freenode/ip.23.117.141.1) |
| 17:40.37 | cdb23ax | hello, i have a problem with debian xen recovery console on pv host |
| 17:40.40 | cdb23ax | *pv guest |
| 17:40.42 | *** join/#debian dm7freek (~dm7freek@2601:8:b280:79:c4fe:afc:f43a:6221) |
| 17:41.36 | cdb23ax | this howto https://tanujbansal.wordpress.com/2010/03/29/how-to-boot-your-para-xen-domu-in-rescue-mode/ says i should mount the debian setup dvd iso file. i have done that but i cannot find vmlinuz and initrd.img |
| 17:42.22 | trysten | i cannot get past verify CD-ROM step in installation after following the manuals instructions exactly |
| 17:42.55 | trysten | i booted to a live-linux enviroment, wrote the image to a flash disk (not the one i was booting off of) and it still fails to verify the CDROM |
| 17:43.42 | *** join/#debian kepta (~kepta@14.139.122.114) |
| 17:43.58 | *** join/#debian Nnel (~Nnel@host217-39-14-122.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 17:44.31 | trysten | not sure how to continue. i've tried everything to make the darn installer work. i'm to the point where i just want to use a live enviroment and debootstrap and do it manually |
| 17:44.54 | *** join/#debian alipoor90 (~ali@46.225.162.95) |
| 17:45.18 | alipoor90 | Hi, is there a single page html version of debian reference? |
| 17:45.31 | *** join/#debian dArK_IcE (~DARKICEPT@a95-92-107-215.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 17:45.38 | *** join/#debian user2015 (~androirc@186-166-157-151.genericrev.telcel.net.ve) |
| 17:46.14 | *** join/#debian {41444d494e} (~kvirc@46.56.65.177) |
| 17:47.25 | user2015 | http://imgur.com/gFKz5pY |
| 17:47.34 | user2015 | Hello |
| 17:47.48 | user2015 | Who can help with that |
| 17:48.14 | *** join/#debian zoso (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 17:48.33 | user2015 | I cant find grub |
| 17:48.41 | *** join/#debian Alina-malina (~Alina-mal@37.157.216.140) |
| 17:48.51 | *** join/#debian Alina-malina (~Alina-mal@unaffiliated/alina-malina) |
| 17:48.52 | *** join/#debian CLaxware (~mirror@5.231.45.214) |
| 17:48.58 | *** join/#debian okee (~Okee@50-0-108-248.dsl.dynamic.sonic.net) |
| 17:49.50 | *** join/#debian cyrinux (~cyril@2a01:e34:ec20:d070:863a:4bff:fecf:e7c0) |
| 17:50.33 | *** join/#debian ToBeCloud (uid51591@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-zpakzmlbgcsbhubq) |
| 17:52.00 | Shadow_7 | user2015: why grub-legacy... grub2 is mostly usable. |
| 17:52.02 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1524] by debhelper |
| 17:52.18 | okee | I have an interesting problem, and would like to save messages in .eml format that are received in Zoho mail. If I select "Ctrl S", I can only save them in html. Is there a plugin that would fix this problem? |
| 17:53.05 | *** join/#debian Jafura (~Jean-Fran@ptr-178-50-78-188.dyn.mobistar.be) |
| 17:54.07 | user2015 | Shadow_7 i have download it but i have a imagen iso in SD but not working. Could you explain how i can do |
| 17:54.43 | Shadow_7 | user2015: if you have another bootable linux and a card reader. chroot can help |
| 17:55.31 | Shadow_7 | user2015: share /proc/ and /dev/ then chroot and do the apt thing to uninstall / install / configure |
| 17:55.55 | *** join/#debian joo-_ (~joo@94.144.63.222) |
| 17:56.08 | *** join/#debian format_c (~format_c@2001:4dd0:ff00:8421:6e62:6dff:fe4a:e47d) |
| 17:56.12 | *** join/#debian zoso (~arvind@unaffiliated/arvind-khadri/x-2237230) |
| 17:56.14 | *** join/#debian xingu (~xingu@cl-1734.lon-02.gb.sixxs.net) |
| 17:56.17 | *** join/#debian smica (~smica@host-87-242-18-155.prtelecom.hu) |
| 17:56.42 | user2015 | Shadow_7 in SD has the imagen iso grup2. But im not sure what you tell me |
| 17:56.55 | *** join/#debian penna (~penna@p4FE216C7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:56.57 | alipoor90 | Hi, is there a single page html version of debian reference? |
| 17:57.21 | Shadow_7 | user2015: the MBR of it has grub-legacy aka grub1. perhaps you didn't install it to the MBR? |
| 17:57.28 | *** join/#debian savantgarde (~savantgar@178.74.27.208) |
| 17:57.30 | *** join/#debian penna_ (~penna@p4FE216C7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 17:57.43 | Shadow_7 | alipoor90: define debian reference? |
| 17:58.04 | Shadow_7 | alipoor90: debian-handbook.info (or was it debianhandbook.info?) |
| 17:58.20 | *** join/#debian CLaxware (~mirror@5.231.45.214) |
| 17:58.27 | user2015 | Shadow i dont have install it mbr |
| 17:58.38 | Shadow_7 | it's also a package |
| 17:58.57 | Shadow_7 | user2015: if you want to boot it, you do, or use another installs bootloader to boot it. |
| 17:59.19 | *** join/#debian linuxuz3r (~linuxuz3r@2602:306:bd2a:a160:c1fd:10ec:15e:fc85) |
| 17:59.19 | Shadow_7 | user2015: baring something special like UEFI |
| 17:59.31 | user2015 | First i must install MBR? |
| 17:59.34 | *** join/#debian Stevie-O (~Stevie-O@pool-71-185-43-182.phlapa.fios.verizon.net) |
| 17:59.56 | *** join/#debian tadejc (~freenode@hydra.owcka.si) |
| 18:00.08 | Stevie-O | does anybody know of any tools that can assist in tweaking patch files for source packages to match new versions? |
| 18:00.13 | *** join/#debian slawekebi (~slawekebi@178.219.117.100) |
| 18:00.26 | user2015 | Sorry but i dont know much about that im confused shadow_7 |
| 18:00.40 | Stevie-O | for example, I have a patch with a hunk that fails and I cannot figure out what's causing it (everything seems to line up) |
| 18:00.46 | Shadow_7 | user2015: in the chroot... grub-install /dev/... where ... is the MBR/device |
| 18:01.01 | *** join/#debian penna (~penna@p4FE216C7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:01.35 | *** join/#debian kepta (~kepta@14.139.122.114) |
| 18:01.44 | Shadow_7 | Stevie-O: patch -p1 ? just one hunk out of a bunch? diff can be used to create patches. depending on your needs |
| 18:02.02 | *** join/#debian cladmatter (~cladmatte@72-184-81-158.res.bhn.net) |
| 18:02.02 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1530] by debhelper |
| 18:02.23 | Stevie-O | I'm not following you |
| 18:02.27 | Stevie-O | I *have* patches already |
| 18:02.30 | *** join/#debian Shtl (77970422@gateway/web/cgi-irc/kiwiirc.com/ip.119.151.4.34) |
| 18:02.42 | Shtl | Hello all |
| 18:02.43 | Stevie-O | they're the quilt patches for debianized source |
| 18:02.51 | Shadow_7 | Stevie-O: does ALL of it apply? does SOME of it apply? does NONE of it apply? |
| 18:02.58 | Stevie-O | I want to update the patches to work against a newer version |
| 18:03.02 | *** join/#debian mixomathoze (~mixomatho@60.141-245-81.adsl-dyn.isp.belgacom.be) |
| 18:03.09 | Stevie-O | *one* hunk of this particular patch fails to apply |
| 18:03.24 | user2015 | Shadow_7 sorry but i dont understand |
| 18:03.25 | *** join/#debian Nnel (~Nnel@host217-39-14-122.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 18:03.27 | *** join/#debian penna (~penna@p4FE216C7.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:03.29 | Shadow_7 | Stevie-O: the -p# will strip the paths down, like if you apply it while in a sub-directory |
| 18:03.47 | Stevie-O | Yes, I know how patch works |
| 18:03.47 | Shtl | I have configured monit in my debian system, and an application when starts through monit cant able to read serai port, but same when run on command line it can read |
| 18:03.59 | Shtl | can any one help me to resolve this please? |
| 18:04.10 | Shadow_7 | user2015: google for debootstrap linux in linux install. It covers some of it |
| 18:05.28 | Shadow_7 | Stevie-O: identify "why" the hunk doesn't apply. It might already be applied. |
| 18:05.36 | Stevie-O | That's not it. |
| 18:06.09 | Stevie-O | And I told you, I *looked* at the patch and I don't see why it doesn't apply! That's why I'm looking for a tool that will *tell me*. "Expected: X Got: Y" |
| 18:06.15 | Shadow_7 | did you verify that you got the complete patch? |
| 18:06.24 | Stevie-O | ... |
| 18:06.29 | Stevie-O | you have no idea what I'm talking about, do you |
| 18:06.37 | Shadow_7 | the tool is eyes... look at the patch... look at the source |
| 18:07.02 | *** join/#debian Wildtux (~Wildtux@116.Red-83-55-51.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 18:07.25 | Shadow_7 | sometimes you have to apply patches in a particular order |
| 18:07.27 | Stevie-O | Actually, that's an antonymous definition of the word 'tool' |
| 18:08.38 | *** join/#debian grobda24 (~grobda24-@host86-141-77-222.range86-141.btcentralplus.com) |
| 18:08.52 | *** join/#debian grobda24 (~grobda24-@silentflame/member/grobda24) |
| 18:09.28 | *** join/#debian Walex (~Walex@4e567559.skybroadband.com) |
| 18:10.23 | Shadow_7 | And sometimes patches fail because two affect the same area and are diffed from the original source. |
| 18:11.07 | Stevie-O | While this is a true statement, I don't see how that is at all relevant to what I'm doing right now |
| 18:11.15 | Shadow_7 | that's why we have revision control systems and development branches and such |
| 18:11.51 | Shadow_7 | Stevie-O: expected: X Got: Y, the patch doesn't match the sources you're trying to alter. |
| 18:12.08 | *** join/#debian hariom (31cfa12c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.49.207.161.44) |
| 18:12.16 | Stevie-O | Yes! That's what I've been saying! |
| 18:12.28 | Stevie-O | The sources do not match and *I cannot see why* |
| 18:12.42 | Shadow_7 | Stevie-O: so "look" at the patch... and "look" at the source and see WHY |
| 18:12.45 | *** join/#debian Kabukky (~kabukky@lbck-4d063511.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 18:12.53 | Stevie-O | What part of "I cannot see why" was unclear? |
| 18:13.03 | hariom | hey friends, I have 3 VMs. They are NATed. When I try to connect any of the VMs from remote server over https, I am able to connect. But when from with in one of the VMs I issue the same https request, it gives timeout msg. URL is of the form: https://www.example.com/test . |
| 18:13.08 | *** join/#debian zh1 (~zh1@a85-138-73-251.cpe.netcabo.pt) |
| 18:13.12 | hariom | Looks like dns resolve is issue? |
| 18:13.17 | Shadow_7 | expected is a hint ofc. Should be a few lines of original code before the changed. Which probably doesn't match |
| 18:13.34 | *** join/#debian ki0 (~ki0@92.58.126.35) |
| 18:13.41 | hariom | When I use https://<internal ip of the VM>/test , it works fine but not the https://www.example.com/test |
| 18:13.46 | Stevie-O | what? |
| 18:13.48 | *** join/#debian Bronze (~Clark@c-73-38-88-48.hsd1.ma.comcast.net) |
| 18:13.50 | Stevie-O | what do you mean "expected is a hint ofc" |
| 18:13.51 | *** join/#debian Bronze (~Clark@unaffiliated/bronze) |
| 18:14.15 | *** join/#debian kepta (~kepta@14.139.122.114) |
| 18:14.36 | Stevie-O | do you mean my "Expected: X Got: Y" thing would be a hint? |
| 18:14.54 | *** join/#debian DaniGemini (~DaniGemin@86.125.246.33) |
| 18:14.57 | *** join/#debian AlexPortable (uid7568@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-cciqzwvipebqbhxk) |
| 18:15.10 | Shadow_7 | Stevie-O: the patch should have code in there. The code it "expected" wasn't there. Been a while since I've looked at a raw patch file (zcat / bzcat), but it should have a line or byte offset for the code. |
| 18:15.19 | Shadow_7 | for the "expected" code |
| 18:15.22 | Stevie-O | yes |
| 18:15.28 | Stevie-O | That is 100% true |
| 18:15.38 | Stevie-O | But that doesn't help me. |
| 18:15.56 | Stevie-O | I know where the code is |
| 18:16.01 | Shadow_7 | Stevie-O: compare "manually" the patch to the "code". |
| 18:16.14 | Stevie-O | I have said, repeatedly, that I have done that. |
| 18:16.44 | Stevie-O | And that I, manually, *do not see* a difference that would cause the patch to fail. |
| 18:17.13 | *** join/#debian Damiox (~damiox@unaffiliated/damiox) |
| 18:17.14 | *** join/#debian trysten (17758d01@gateway/web/freenode/ip.23.117.141.1) |
| 18:17.15 | Shadow_7 | Stevie-O: the - is remove the + is add and other tidbits. those with nothing should be "exact" matches (including whitespace and such) |
| 18:17.31 | *** join/#debian patterson (~patterson@c-50-174-179-173.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 18:17.34 | Stevie-O | Yes. I have said before, I know how to use patch. I also know how to read a patch file. |
| 18:17.44 | Stevie-O | What par tof "I do not see a difference" is unclear? |
| 18:17.46 | *** join/#debian tadej (~freenode@unaffiliated/tadej) |
| 18:18.00 | xreal | echo "set locales/default_environment_locale de_DE.UTF-8 UTF-8" | debconf-communicate => why does it return "0 value set" ? |
| 18:18.12 | Shadow_7 | Stevie-O: maybe the offset is wrong? It might not be that code bits. |
| 18:18.34 | *** join/#debian obsed (~obesd@unaffiliated/obesd) |
| 18:18.53 | Stevie-O | If that were the case, the patch would not line up with the source file at all, and I would definitely see a difference |
| 18:19.02 | *** part/#debian Zackio (Matrixiumn@unaffiliated/matrixiumn) |
| 18:19.05 | *** join/#debian ruukasu (~ruukasu@unaffiliated/ruukasu) |
| 18:19.06 | alipoor90 | Shadow_7: I mean https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ |
| 18:19.12 | hikenboot | thanks Shadow_7 & Walex |
| 18:19.33 | *** join/#debian ompaul (~ompaul@unaffiliated/ompaul) |
| 18:19.56 | xreal | Anyone with an idea? |
| 18:19.57 | Shadow_7 | Stevie-O: depends on the source that you're applying it to. |
| 18:20.03 | Stevie-O | How is that possible? |
| 18:20.30 | Stevie-O | It looks like it should apply and it doesn't. |
| 18:20.40 | *** part/#debian CLaxware (~mirror@5.231.45.214) |
| 18:20.42 | Stevie-O | If it was for the wrong code, then it wouldn't look like it should apply! |
| 18:20.50 | *** join/#debian CLaxware (~mirror@5.231.45.214) |
| 18:21.05 | Shadow_7 | Stevie-O: take a kernel for example. You apply the 3.18.0 to 3.18.1 patch. Turn around and apply the 3.18.0 to the 3.18.2 patch when the .1 patch is already applied. |
| 18:21.19 | Shadow_7 | Stevie-O: the .1 changes in the .2 patch are already applied. |
| 18:21.33 | Shadow_7 | Stevie-O: and patch will complain about it, but apply the patches that it can apply |
| 18:21.43 | Stevie-O | If that were the case, Shadow, then patch would tell me it that it looks like it can be reverse-applied |
| 18:22.00 | hikenboot | question, using gdm what are the configuration parameters that allow all users to connect? |
| 18:22.06 | *** join/#debian rypervenche (~rypervenc@unaffiliated/rypervenche) |
| 18:22.09 | Stevie-O | Also, then the source file would be different, and I would be able to see that |
| 18:22.09 | *** join/#debian _2_Michelle1123 (~WhatsChat@ip72-207-18-249.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 18:22.11 | Shadow_7 | Stevie-O: but there's a 3.18.1 to 3.18.2 progressive patch that can be applied without the noise. |
| 18:22.26 | *** join/#debian c0mrade (~c0mrade@unaffiliated/c0mrade) |
| 18:22.26 | _2_Michelle1123 | ok |
| 18:22.28 | c0mrade | Hello. |
| 18:22.34 | _2_Michelle1123 | hi |
| 18:22.44 | Shadow_7 | Stevie-O: bear in mind that "white space" aka " " is a change too. |
| 18:22.48 | c0mrade | Can anyone share a link where I can download latest Debian but minimal iso image? |
| 18:22.50 | *** join/#debian sIRwa2 (~sIRwa2@dhcp-077-249-139-018.chello.nl) |
| 18:22.53 | Stevie-O | tried --ignore-whitespace too |
| 18:22.58 | *** join/#debian Bierdieb_ (~Bierdieb@p4FE0483D.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 18:22.58 | Stevie-O | no luck |
| 18:22.59 | c0mrade | Target PC doesn't have internet access. |
| 18:23.11 | _2_Michelle1123 | what |
| 18:23.23 | hikenboot | I would be glad to just google it but dont know what to google for |
| 18:23.33 | *** join/#debian Nnel (~Nnel@host217-39-14-122.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 18:23.40 | Shadow_7 | c0mrade: cdimage.debian.org |
| 18:23.56 | *** join/#debian savantgarde (~savantgar@178.74.27.208) |
| 18:24.39 | c0mrade | Shadow_7: Okay and... |
| 18:24.40 | *** join/#debian ki0 (~ki0@92.58.126.35) |
| 18:25.18 | *** join/#debian zir0faive (~zir0faive@cty37-1-78-214-92-19.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 18:25.24 | Shadow_7 | c0mrade: jigdo and torrent can be used to grab the stable isos. |
| 18:25.44 | Shadow_7 | c0mrade: if the other computer can boot from USB, you can do the install on a machine other than that one. |
| 18:26.07 | Shadow_7 | c0mrade: as long as the cpu type of the install is compatible. |
| 18:26.42 | Shtl | what would represent the 4th column of "ps -aef" command???? |
| 18:27.30 | Shadow_7 | Stevie-O: if you have any coding skills you could apply the patch manually. There maybe be some \t or other white-ish space that doesn't get caught with --ignore-whitespace. |
| 18:28.07 | Stevie-O | I'm reluctant to apply the patch manually because it is a very big, very complicated patch (it rewrites an extensive section of a Makefile) |
| 18:28.09 | Shadow_7 | Stevie-O: like those \r\n vs \r vs \n differences between the major OSes |
| 18:28.28 | Stevie-O | Shadow, you do know what quilt patches are, right? |
| 18:29.44 | *** part/#debian alipoor90 (~ali@46.225.162.95) |
| 18:31.33 | *** join/#debian adellam (~adellam@pdpc/supporter/active/adellam) |
| 18:33.03 | *** join/#debian littlebit (~Thunderbi@ulmg-5d847818.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 18:34.30 | *** join/#debian ki0 (~ki0@92.58.126.35) |
| 18:35.36 | *** join/#debian coste (~coste@67-0-248-64.albq.qwest.net) |
| 18:35.42 | Shadow_7 | Stevie-O: are you using quilt to apply the patches? |
| 18:35.50 | *** join/#debian Damiox (~damiox@unaffiliated/damiox) |
| 18:36.54 | *** join/#debian DaniGemini_ (~DaniGemin@79.114.68.254) |
| 18:36.56 | *** join/#debian f10 (~flo@77.87.48.182) |
| 18:37.16 | *** join/#debian tadejc (~freenode@hydra.owcka.si) |
| 18:38.17 | *** join/#debian DaniGemini__ (~DaniGemin@79.114.66.110) |
| 18:38.42 | *** join/#debian wyre (~wyre@81.172.88.157.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 18:39.12 | *** join/#debian Corey84 (~Corey84@unaffiliated/corey84) |
| 18:39.53 | *** join/#debian Agent_Isai (Agent_Isai@unaffiliated/agentisai/bot/isaibot) |
| 18:39.53 | *** join/#debian Agent_Isai (Agent_Isai@gateway/shell/yourbnc/x-usobmrcsgcmgyxoi) |
| 18:40.48 | *** part/#debian hariom (31cfa12c@gateway/web/freenode/ip.49.207.161.44) |
| 18:42.30 | *** join/#debian wakd (~wakd@unaffiliated/wakd) |
| 18:43.52 | *** join/#debian kkvlk (~kkvlk@r167-57-2-147.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 18:44.22 | *** join/#debian Agent_Isai (Agent_Isai@gateway/shell/yourbnc/x-stqrgttrttaysaeq) |
| 18:47.14 | *** join/#debian Damiox (~damiox@unaffiliated/damiox) |
| 18:47.36 | *** join/#debian DeaDSouL (~DeaDSouL@94.29.129.225) |
| 18:48.31 | *** join/#debian k2gremlin (~Gremlin@ip70-179-139-167.fv.ks.cox.net) |
| 18:49.38 | *** join/#debian n13z (~iosick@unaffiliated/n13z) |
| 18:49.45 | *** join/#debian ki0 (~ki0@92.58.126.35) |
| 18:49.49 | DeaDSouL | hi, how to block all incomming ssh requiests from internet to login, except for the ones who i have their keys ? |
| 18:50.42 | Vroomfondel | you mean you want to allow key-based authentication only? (so, no passwords allowed) |
| 18:51.05 | *** join/#debian tonythomas (uid25971@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ishrpqdvpvddmuyq) |
| 18:51.59 | *** join/#debian asm_blr (~asm_blr@enj202.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 18:52.37 | Iridos | DeaDSouL, man sshd_config /PasswordAuthentication |
| 18:52.54 | *** join/#debian nux443 (~maxiu@c-50-139-98-10.hsd1.or.comcast.net) |
| 18:53.37 | Iridos | or even /^[[:space:]]*PasswordAuthenticatio |
| 18:53.41 | kale | how do i disable a service? i mean making it not start when the system starts |
| 18:54.26 | phy1729 | should probably use AuthenticationMethods pubkey instead of just disabling PasswordAuthentication |
| 18:54.48 | Iridos | kale, wheezy? |
| 18:55.26 | kale | Iridos: yes |
| 18:55.52 | Iridos | kale, basically it's done with softlinks.. several programs can set/unset them for you... e.g. update-rc.d [-n] <basename> disable|enable [S|2|3|4|5] |
| 18:56.16 | Iridos | everything will likely be different from jessie on, though |
| 18:56.31 | Iridos | at least if one uses the default init system, which is a different one |
| 18:56.49 | kale | pacemaker got removed from jessie, so i guess i'll stick to wheezy for a while |
| 18:58.02 | kale | Iridos: i get some warnings |
| 18:58.11 | kale | insserv: warning: current start runlevel(s) (empty) of script `haproxy' overrides LSB defaults (2 3 4 5). |
| 18:58.38 | kale | is that just that an initscript for those runlevels are missing? |
| 18:58.56 | *** join/#debian inigo (~inigo@unaffiliated/inigo) |
| 18:58.57 | *** join/#debian Siente (Siente@78.83.27.76) |
| 18:59.00 | *** join/#debian winterss (~wint@c-71-228-128-169.hsd1.ga.comcast.net) |
| 18:59.32 | *** join/#debian _0bitcount (~big-byte@81.61.34.185.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 19:00.07 | Iridos | dpkg, lsb tags |
| 19:00.07 | dpkg | From 6.0 "Squeeze" onwards, Debian uses a dependency-based boot sequence (see /usr/share/doc/sysv-rc/README.Debian). This requires all init scripts having appropriate headers, so that the correct order of execution can be determined. Scripts like S25libdevmapper1.02 are left over from 3.1 "Sarge" and can be deleted; your own scripts will need LSB headers added: http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts |
| 19:00.21 | *** join/#debian knosys (~knosys@unaffiliated/knosys) |
| 19:00.26 | knosys | hi guys |
| 19:00.37 | Iridos | kale, ^^^ |
| 19:01.01 | kale | Iridos: its a backported haproxy package... |
| 19:01.40 | knosys | Guys my computer has no ethernet cable conected, i am having problems to make a network between Host machine and virtual machine , with virtualbox program. I just want network access between 2 computers, no internet access on the virtual machine |
| 19:02.35 | knosys | What would be the right option to use in the virtual machine network adapter? I have tried so many things |
| 19:02.47 | knosys | yesterday was working... i dont know what happened O.o |
| 19:03.05 | *** join/#debian thewanderer1 (~thewander@2001:470:609b:1:5e51:4fff:fea9:f3d0) |
| 19:03.18 | *** join/#debian DURgod (~DURgod@2001:470:1f11:e4d:5915:6340:4934:c7a7) |
| 19:03.22 | *** join/#debian tastybuds (~tastybuds@unaffiliated/tastybuds) |
| 19:04.08 | *** join/#debian Almazys (~Almazys@ip-129.net-89-3-97.rev.numericable.fr) |
| 19:04.09 | *** join/#debian neocaine (~psylocain@2001:5c0:1400:a::17) |
| 19:05.18 | *** join/#debian F|ng3r (~Linux@10.Red-79-155-82.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 19:05.25 | kale | knosys: set guest nic to be bridged |
| 19:05.31 | *** join/#debian Modeuse (kvirc@x14m13a.wh7.tu-dresden.de) |
| 19:05.42 | knosys | kale: the problem is that host machine have 2 interfaces |
| 19:05.53 | knosys | usb0 = wan access trhough samsung galaxy S |
| 19:05.55 | knosys | eth0 link down |
| 19:06.02 | *** join/#debian AntiSpamMeta (~MetaBot@AntiSpamMeta/.) |
| 19:06.06 | knosys | which one i bridge? |
| 19:06.20 | *** join/#debian adellam (~adellam@pdpc/supporter/active/adellam) |
| 19:06.24 | knosys | with usb0 i can access through WAN, but no network access.. |
| 19:06.46 | knosys | is really weird if i look ARP table when bridged to usb0, there are 2 entryes for the same machine |
| 19:06.58 | knosys | one with name and other with IP |
| 19:07.36 | *** join/#debian kepta (~kepta@14.139.122.114) |
| 19:08.37 | *** join/#debian ki0 (~ki0@92.58.126.35) |
| 19:08.41 | kale | knosys: which nic on the host do you want to use in the guest? |
| 19:08.58 | *** join/#debian wcfields (~keynull@209.36.40.50) |
| 19:09.15 | *** join/#debian joo-_ (~joo@94.144.63.222) |
| 19:09.19 | knosys | I dont mind, wichever works. I dont need WAN access. But the host eth0's is down |
| 19:10.01 | xreal | When joining a chroot, "locale" and env variable gets copied (?) to the chroot. How caan I prevent this? |
| 19:10.09 | Iridos | all network I ever used in virtualbox so far "just worked" |
| 19:10.38 | knosys | now there are 3 ip in arp table ... what could that mean? xD |
| 19:10.57 | knosys | wow turned the machine off and they still there |
| 19:11.02 | *** join/#debian sifeic (~sifeic@c-75-71-117-103.hsd1.co.comcast.net) |
| 19:11.08 | knosys | how is this possible? more people connected to my network? |
| 19:11.37 | knosys | no it looks like the IP have delay to dissapear from arp table, because it have same ip address than the virtual machine |
| 19:11.47 | *** join/#debian k-man (~jason@unaffiliated/k-man) |
| 19:11.54 | kale | knosys: then pick usb0 or eth0 and bridge that |
| 19:12.03 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1538] by debhelper |
| 19:12.16 | knosys | i dont make it to work with usb0 |
| 19:12.42 | knosys | anyway i dont understand. I set bridged connection to usb0 , and it makes 3 entryes in arp table |
| 19:12.44 | kale | ok, then use eth0 |
| 19:13.00 | knosys | i cant connect to none of these through http protocol, but i can ping some of them |
| 19:13.00 | knosys | just some.. |
| 19:13.02 | knosys | xD |
| 19:13.05 | cdb23ax | i finally managed it to move the www.runabove.com vps to my xen environment |
| 19:13.34 | cdb23ax | it boots and all services are working i just copied the whole filesystem with tar during runtime |
| 19:13.37 | cdb23ax | :) |
| 19:13.46 | *** join/#debian paragon (~paragon@73.12.11.95) |
| 19:14.42 | knosys | "The virtual machine execution may run into an error condition as described below. We suggest that yo take an apporpiate action to avert the error. Bridged interface eth0 is down. Guest will not be able to use this interface." |
| 19:14.49 | *** join/#debian tormen0815_ (~me@lib59-5-82-243-109-205.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 19:14.54 | knosys | when trying to use bridged to eth0 |
| 19:15.07 | knosys | host have eth0 link down, nothing connected to the host network card |
| 19:15.21 | knosys | i didnt know that was necesary |
| 19:16.13 | kale | knosys: you wrote you could not go to work if you used usb0, and you write there is no cable in eth0. so neither works for you... sorry cannot help you there. |
| 19:16.55 | *** join/#debian tadej (~freenode@unaffiliated/tadej) |
| 19:17.05 | *** join/#debian it0a (~it0a@cpe-76-189-250-113.neo.res.rr.com) |
| 19:17.08 | knosys | usb0 work WAN, eth0 doesnt work at all. NAT work wan too... ok kale thanks for trying |
| 19:17.21 | *** join/#debian Ciph3r (~Cyph3r@96-40-173-182.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com) |
| 19:17.41 | *** join/#debian Nnel (~Nnel@host217-39-14-122.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 19:18.37 | *** join/#debian TildaTurn (~tilda@cable-188-2-129-250.dynamic.sbb.rs) |
| 19:18.52 | *** join/#debian TildaTurn (~tilda@unaffiliated/tildaturn) |
| 19:19.06 | *** join/#debian gusnan (~gusnan@s213-100-228-162.cust.tele2.se) |
| 19:19.09 | *** join/#debian tonythomas (uid25971@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-ablyijbejwvolmay) |
| 19:19.39 | kale | knosys: we could get it to work, if you could relax on the keyboard for a while |
| 19:20.06 | *** join/#debian bgand_W (~klovous@2602:306:348c:91d0:214:51ff:fedb:fd2b) |
| 19:20.22 | knosys | of course, sorry if I was disturbing |
| 19:20.34 | *** join/#debian Scall (~chat@unaffiliated/scall) |
| 19:20.56 | kale | knosys: so lets use usb0 from the host |
| 19:21.31 | kale | knosys: power down the guest, go into the settings, select usb0 as nic and set it up as a bridge |
| 19:21.39 | kale | knosys: start the guest |
| 19:22.12 | knosys | done |
| 19:22.31 | *** join/#debian tumocs (~cbt@46.254.100.38) |
| 19:22.53 | kale | knosys: does the guest get an ip on the same subnet as the host (i expect you haave dhcp on that network) |
| 19:23.03 | *** join/#debian Gurty (~princess@ril69-3-88-169-251-156.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 19:23.04 | *** join/#debian Gurty (~princess@unaffiliated/gurty) |
| 19:23.13 | *** part/#debian tastybuds (~tastybuds@unaffiliated/tastybuds) |
| 19:23.19 | *** join/#debian jordila (~jordi@host114.190-230-132.telecom.net.ar) |
| 19:23.22 | *** join/#debian K1lled (~k1lled@nat-219-152.dragon.cz) |
| 19:24.30 | knosys | there is the /etc/network/interfaces file, there was only entries for 'lo' and for 'eth0', later i added 'usb0'. lo is auto, eth0 was static but i just commented it out. usb0 is static with gateway, ip and subnet mask |
| 19:25.28 | knosys | the only line uncommented on eth0 is: allow-hotplug eth0 |
| 19:26.42 | kale | knosys: "ifconfig -a" should show available interface in the guest |
| 19:27.08 | knosys | yes, that way I only see eth0. I never say usb0 name there. |
| 19:27.21 | *** join/#debian kkvlk (~kkvlk@r167-57-2-147.dialup.adsl.anteldata.net.uy) |
| 19:27.29 | kale | knosys: good, then its eth0 in the guest, now set up interfaces file |
| 19:27.30 | knosys | anyway i know its using the Mobile phone, because if i set in interfaces file dhcp to usb0, it gets an IP |
| 19:27.43 | knosys | even if ifconfig say "eth0" |
| 19:28.53 | kale | knosys: if only eth0 shows up, you cannot expect to use it as usb0 |
| 19:29.14 | *** join/#debian felix_mc (~unknown@c-76-27-125-245.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 19:29.16 | knosys | i have noticed that. |
| 19:29.17 | knosys | i have commented out all usb0 in the interfaces file |
| 19:29.21 | *** join/#debian dm7freek (~dm7freek@2601:8:b280:79:ecef:b28b:1cc8:9226) |
| 19:29.23 | knosys | and set eth0 as dhcp |
| 19:29.31 | knosys | and it works, when ifconfig it shows ip |
| 19:29.43 | kale | knosys: good |
| 19:29.44 | knosys | same range of Mobile phone and Host machine |
| 19:30.06 | kale | which was what you initially asked for |
| 19:30.19 | knosys | i can ping vm from the host |
| 19:30.32 | *** join/#debian mingtsay (uid27779@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-myytetlbgtqijkei) |
| 19:30.33 | knosys | and other way also |
| 19:31.14 | knosys | but cant access to webserver.. weird, i think that is a different problem now |
| 19:31.20 | *** join/#debian colonolGron (~quassel@244-130.106-92.cust.bluewin.ch) |
| 19:31.30 | kale | knosys: check dns |
| 19:31.56 | knosys | im accessing through IP address |
| 19:32.05 | knosys | http://192.168.... |
| 19:32.12 | kale | route -n |
| 19:32.17 | *** join/#debian boubou (boubou@if.you.have.any.doubts.just.ask-me.net) |
| 19:32.23 | *** join/#debian intx_ (~intx@209.141.139.89) |
| 19:32.28 | knosys | in wich machine? |
| 19:32.30 | *** part/#debian boubou (boubou@if.you.have.any.doubts.just.ask-me.net) |
| 19:32.38 | kale | knosys: the one which has no access |
| 19:33.13 | knosys | ok i see 2 lines Iface eth0 |
| 19:33.36 | kale | knosys: seems your dhcp server did not provide a gateway |
| 19:33.51 | knosys | I see a gateway |
| 19:33.59 | knosys | and its the mobile address |
| 19:34.04 | knosys | its the first line of route output |
| 19:34.11 | *** join/#debian quinput (~quinput@pdpc/supporter/active/quinput) |
| 19:34.21 | knosys | destination its 0.0.0.0 , what do it mean? |
| 19:34.37 | kale | knosys: its anywhere |
| 19:34.51 | knosys | Aah |
| 19:34.58 | AimHere | You're sending a packet to the Centre of The Internet |
| 19:35.31 | knosys | What do yo mean AimHere ? |
| 19:35.41 | AimHere | Bad joke, just ignore me |
| 19:35.56 | knosys | xD |
| 19:36.04 | kale | knosys: well 192.168... is not on the internet, what are you trying to access? |
| 19:36.59 | knosys | just trying to visit website, hosted on the vmachine with apache2. From the Host machine |
| 19:37.35 | kale | knosys: oh, so can you access that site from the guest? |
| 19:39.26 | knosys | good question, without X there. |
| 19:39.39 | knosys | but yesterday everything was working xD |
| 19:39.55 | kale | knosys: telnet <ip> 80 ... GET / <ret><ret> |
| 19:40.02 | knosys | nvm mate, i will try to figure out whats the problem |
| 19:40.15 | knosys | oooh |
| 19:40.30 | knosys | nice , thanks i will read how to spell that |
| 19:40.31 | *** join/#debian c0mrade (~c0mrade@93.126.196.183) |
| 19:40.44 | *** join/#debian c0mrade (~c0mrade@unaffiliated/c0mrade) |
| 19:41.09 | *** join/#debian dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) |
| 19:41.34 | *** join/#debian K1lled (~k1lled@nat-219-152.dragon.cz) |
| 19:41.35 | knosys | yess accesible |
| 19:41.40 | knosys | from the localhost |
| 19:41.54 | kale | knosys: ok, apache might not know to listen on the ip on the nic |
| 19:41.56 | knosys | i used the ip with 192.168* range in there and show the html code |
| 19:42.10 | knosys | Oooh |
| 19:42.19 | knosys | mmm wait i used 192.168 format |
| 19:42.21 | knosys | in the telnet |
| 19:42.31 | knosys | i didnt spelled "localhost" |
| 19:42.32 | *** join/#debian obsed (~obesd@unaffiliated/obesd) |
| 19:44.47 | *** join/#debian Willis (Willis@107.161.160.241) |
| 19:46.16 | *** join/#debian xingu (~xingu@cl-1734.lon-02.gb.sixxs.net) |
| 19:46.51 | *** join/#debian hell_razer (~textual@host-176-38-97-10.la.net.ua) |
| 19:46.56 | *** join/#debian Trow (~Trow@193.50.79.255) |
| 19:47.53 | *** join/#debian intx (intx@unaffiliated/intx) |
| 19:48.09 | *** join/#debian Nnel (~Nnel@host217-39-14-122.in-addr.btopenworld.com) |
| 19:49.16 | *** join/#debian spire (~spire@catv-86-101-147-141.catv.broadband.hu) |
| 19:49.32 | *** join/#debian harobed (~harobed@ANancy-652-1-438-156.w90-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 19:50.31 | *** join/#debian NRKA (~sailfish@77.53.46.8) |
| 19:51.09 | *** join/#debian littlebit (~Thunderbi@ulmg-5d847818.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 19:51.28 | *** join/#debian brokencycle (~brokencyc@188.29.164.253.threembb.co.uk) |
| 19:52.44 | *** join/#debian MrAlexanB (~MrAlexand@43.232.251.212.customer.cdi.no) |
| 19:54.19 | knosys | kale: What about this? Ping works, apache dont (80), mysql dont (3306) ? services are running in the vm |
| 19:54.24 | *** join/#debian intx (intx@unaffiliated/intx) |
| 19:54.54 | *** join/#debian Xiti (~Xiti-@unaffiliated/xiti) |
| 19:54.58 | *** join/#debian roasted (~quassel@unaffiliated/roasted) |
| 19:55.11 | knosys | i mean, from host i can ping the IP, but cant connect to any services of the virtual machine |
| 19:57.47 | *** join/#debian CheckDavid (uid14990@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-gffbxedwseseaiac) |
| 19:59.28 | kale | knosys: what is the ip of the guest? |
| 20:00.05 | *** join/#debian obsed (~obesd@unaffiliated/obesd) |
| 20:00.31 | *** join/#debian joncrunchbang (~joi@cm-84.210.13.135.getinternet.no) |
| 20:01.03 | *** join/#debian kepta (~kepta@14.139.122.114) |
| 20:02.38 | *** join/#debian CeBe (~CeBe@port-92-200-77-88.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 20:04.10 | *** join/#debian glennb (~glennb@unaffiliated/glennb) |
| 20:04.16 | *** join/#debian xingu (~xingu@cl-1734.lon-02.gb.sixxs.net) |
| 20:04.55 | *** join/#debian tadejc (~freenode@hydra.owcka.si) |
| 20:05.20 | *** join/#debian francone (~vivaubras@95.236.171.156) |
| 20:05.32 | *** join/#debian avuton (~avuton@ip68-7-11-101.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 20:06.24 | *** join/#debian smyers (smyers@redhat/smyers) |
| 20:07.35 | *** join/#debian roasted (~quassel@unaffiliated/roasted) |
| 20:07.53 | *** join/#debian paranoids (~markus@amd.paranoids.at) |
| 20:09.02 | *** join/#debian Domhack (~Domhack@89-72-178-186.dynamic.chello.pl) |
| 20:09.48 | *** join/#debian b1101 (~b@fsf/member/b1101) |
| 20:10.40 | *** join/#debian anonnumberanon (~anonnumbe@unaffiliated/anonnumberanon) |
| 20:12.03 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1548] by debhelper |
| 20:12.35 | *** join/#debian Agent_Isai (Agent_Isai@gateway/shell/yourbnc/x-dbfwnzcufejqbfnf) |
| 20:12.39 | *** part/#debian avuton (~avuton@ip68-7-11-101.sd.sd.cox.net) |
| 20:12.50 | *** join/#debian ki0 (~ki0@92.58.126.35) |
| 20:14.07 | *** join/#debian sveva65 (~sverre@unaffiliated/sveva65) |
| 20:14.18 | *** join/#debian wyre (~wyre@81.172.88.157.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 20:15.37 | *** join/#debian badiane_ka (~gdurand@cpe-24-193-80-159.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 20:16.20 | *** join/#debian exor6 (~exor@199.27.103.92) |
| 20:16.32 | *** join/#debian roasted (~quassel@unaffiliated/roasted) |
| 20:17.12 | DeaDSouL | guys what is the protocol of ssh ? tcp? udp? |
| 20:17.22 | *** join/#debian Agent_Isai (Agent_Isai@gateway/shell/yourbnc/x-qzvnoyyqnxgftxix) |
| 20:17.47 | *** join/#debian roasted_ (~quassel@unaffiliated/roasted) |
| 20:18.05 | dondelelcaro | DeaDSouL: it's built on top of TCP, but the protocol is ssh. |
| 20:18.07 | Shadow_7 | DeaDSouL: cat /etc/services | grep -i ssh |
| 20:19.02 | dondelelcaro | DeaDSouL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secure_Shell |
| 20:19.48 | *** join/#debian Agent_Isai (Agent_Isai@gateway/shell/yourbnc/x-rcbjoimrsblhuwvp) |
| 20:19.49 | *** join/#debian solarseed (~konsumkil@212.101.54.106) |
| 20:19.57 | linuxuz3r | whats a good backup program for debian |
| 20:20.16 | sydney | linuxuz3r: deja dup |
| 20:20.25 | *** join/#debian joar (sid36693@fsf/member/jwandborg) |
| 20:20.33 | teraflops | linuxuz3r: depends on your needs |
| 20:20.37 | sydney | aka "backup" in gnome and KDE menu. |
| 20:20.47 | linuxuz3r | gnome |
| 20:20.53 | sydney | Yes, depending on your needs. |
| 20:21.00 | DeaDSouL | thanks guys.. |
| 20:21.11 | DeaDSouL | Shadow_7: thanks for the tip :) |
| 20:21.13 | sydney | linuxuz3r: Type in "backup" in the programs menu. |
| 20:21.21 | sydney | Or whatever you call it in gnome. |
| 20:21.22 | linuxuz3r | backup directory to another directory everytime i shutdown or reboot |
| 20:21.22 | sydney | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:21.32 | *** join/#debian Dr_Cool (~chatzilla@2a01:e35:2434:8220:ec31:da68:711f:e3c2) |
| 20:21.34 | linuxuz3r | i dont have it |
| 20:21.53 | sydney | Oh, deja dup cannot do that. |
| 20:22.07 | linuxuz3r | ok |
| 20:22.19 | sydney | apt-get install deja-dup |
| 20:23.39 | linuxuz3r | i was looking for something like this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem/SimpleBackupSuite |
| 20:23.58 | *** join/#debian yoklar (~yoklar@88.244.226.121) |
| 20:25.09 | sydney | Yeah, ive never used it. |
| 20:25.23 | *** join/#debian spanglesontoast (~edd@90.202.207.113) |
| 20:25.23 | *** join/#debian spanglesontoast (~edd@unaffiliated/spanglesontoast) |
| 20:25.59 | sydney | Wow, that looks nice. |
| 20:26.10 | *** join/#debian Kabukky (~kabukky@lbck-4d063511.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 20:26.37 | *** join/#debian olegfusion (~olegfusio@46.191.226.49) |
| 20:26.47 | xreal | A question to the Debian gurus: When using "/etc/locale.gen, locale-gen and update-locale", debconfig-database doesn't have a clue about the settings. Is this a problem? |
| 20:26.47 | sydney | linuxuz3r: Its only in sid. |
| 20:27.38 | linuxuz3r | ok |
| 20:27.59 | *** join/#debian harobed (~harobed@ANancy-652-1-438-156.w90-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 20:28.48 | *** join/#debian jetho (~jens@191.242.128.209) |
| 20:30.03 | xreal | anyone? |
| 20:30.45 | *** join/#debian harobed3 (~harobed@ANancy-652-1-438-156.w90-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 20:31.01 | sydney | xreal: What was your question? |
| 20:31.30 | xreal | sydney: When using "/etc/locale.gen, locale-gen and update-locale", debconfig-database doesn't have a clue about the settings. Is this a problem? |
| 20:31.51 | *** join/#debian DaniGemini (~DaniGemin@79.114.115.38) |
| 20:32.02 | sydney | I don't know so !patience |
| 20:32.06 | sydney | !patience |
| 20:32.07 | dpkg | The people here are volunteers, your attitude should reflect that. Answers are not always available. |
| 20:32.09 | sydney | :P |
| 20:32.26 | sydney | wags his finger at dpkg... |
| 20:32.57 | kale | i'm having some trouble getting a corosync+haproxy combo running smoothly. it seems haproxy starts from the initscript, after this corosync also tries to start it, but fails since the port is already bound, any ideas? |
| 20:33.10 | *** join/#debian deadalnix (~deadalnix@50.254.155.214) |
| 20:35.53 | *** join/#debian likecolacola (~oiur@38.Red-2-138-3.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 20:36.50 | *** join/#debian format_c (~format_c@2001:4dd0:ff00:8421:224:2bff:fe69:c29b) |
| 20:36.59 | *** join/#debian harobed3 (~harobed@ANancy-652-1-509-42.w86-197.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 20:37.39 | *** join/#debian lord4163 (~lord4163@78-68-207-39-no226.tbcn.telia.com) |
| 20:40.01 | ompaul | xreal: /msg dpkg locale |
| 20:40.17 | *** join/#debian alexei___ (~amgarchin@p4FD63B91.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 20:40.58 | xreal | ompaul: nah, that's the interactive way... I want to do it by scripting. |
| 20:41.03 | *** join/#debian lcafiero (~lcafiero@adsl-76-254-70-70.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 20:41.09 | xreal | ompaul: like "echo locales locales/default_environment_locale select en_EN.UTF-8 UTF-8 | debconf-set-selections" |
| 20:41.53 | *** join/#debian intx_ (~intx@209.141.139.89) |
| 20:42.20 | *** join/#debian harobed (~harobed@ANancy-652-1-438-156.w90-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 20:43.37 | *** join/#debian Soul_Eater (~marcelo@189-13-212-138.user.veloxzone.com.br) |
| 20:43.52 | *** join/#debian Soul_Eater (~marcelo@unaffiliated/soul-eater/x-4649632) |
| 20:44.07 | *** join/#debian brokencycle (~brokencyc@188.29.165.189.threembb.co.uk) |
| 20:45.11 | ompaul | xreal: when I look at this it is scriptable https://wiki.debian.org/Locale |
| 20:45.20 | ompaul | but that depends on what you mean by scriptable |
| 20:45.53 | *** join/#debian jmark (~jmark__@pD9F938AC.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 20:45.59 | xreal | ompaul: I don't want to enter it the interactive/dialog/text way. |
| 20:46.10 | xreal | ompaul: Where on this page do you see scripting functions? |
| 20:46.30 | *** join/#debian sydney (~sydney@199.96.49.160) |
| 20:46.30 | *** join/#debian sydney (~sydney@unaffiliated/sydney) |
| 20:46.38 | ompaul | xreal: you're questioning something the wrong way I think, is it this |
| 20:46.52 | ompaul | xreal: you want the system to have something that is scripted that does it for you |
| 20:46.57 | ompaul | already |
| 20:47.19 | ompaul | locale is set on install - if you change it later that is something you have to deal with |
| 20:47.28 | xreal | ompaul: Nope, I've installed the system by chroot and don't want to use dhcp-reconfigure locales because it wants you to manually press keys. |
| 20:47.57 | *** join/#debian mtn (~mtn@dpc6744169158.direcpc.com) |
| 20:48.04 | *** join/#debian calisto (~Icedove@unaffiliated/calisto) |
| 20:48.58 | *** join/#debian harobed3 (~harobed@ANancy-652-1-436-24.w90-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 20:49.28 | *** join/#debian j0n3 (~j0n3@80.174.54.208.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 20:50.37 | ompaul | xreal: so you want something to go to .gen file and tell it to unhash the one you want |
| 20:50.47 | *** join/#debian harobed (~harobed@ANancy-652-1-436-24.w90-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 20:50.53 | *** join/#debian intx (intx@unaffiliated/intx) |
| 20:51.10 | ompaul | I don't know if you need to restart the session to make it come alive |
| 20:51.16 | ompaul | or more |
| 20:51.18 | xreal | ompaul: Wait wait wait |
| 20:51.31 | ompaul | runs away screaming |
| 20:51.32 | xreal | ompaul: Doing it the manual way works as expected, but this wasn't the point my question was about. |
| 20:51.37 | cdb23ax | can someone tell me whats this is? url_helper.py[WARNING]: Calling 'http://169.254.169.254/2009-04-04/meta-data/instance-id' failed [-10541/120s |
| 20:51.52 | cdb23ax | this message is shown all the time on the guest debian on xen |
| 20:51.54 | xreal | ompaul: My question was about: Is it a problem to do it manually, since debconfig-database hasn't a clue about these settings? |
| 20:52.23 | xreal | ompaul: aaaaaaah. I just got it working with debconf-set-selections. Everything is fine now. Thanks for your support. |
| 20:52.44 | *** join/#debian harobed (~harobed@ANancy-652-1-436-24.w90-6.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 20:52.50 | ompaul | xreal: I still don't know what it was you wanted to avoid but hey if you are happy |
| 20:52.52 | ompaul | :) |
| 20:53.05 | xreal | ompaul: That's it: "echo locales locales/default_environment_locale select en_EN.UTF-8 UTF-8 | debconf-set-selections" |
| 20:53.13 | *** join/#debian ragedragon_ (~ragedrago@hus54-1-78-214-148-27.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 20:53.49 | *** join/#debian heg (~heg@dyn.83-228-163-249.dsl.vtx.ch) |
| 20:54.39 | xreal | Loool, I'm sooo stupid. I've read "0 value set" like "no value has been set" :) |
| 20:54.51 | xreal | But "0" is the response code :) |
| 20:55.08 | ompaul | xreal: my script exited in a good way |
| 20:55.09 | ompaul | lovely |
| 20:55.20 | ompaul | wanders off to make tea and cake |
| 20:55.37 | *** join/#debian jvdm (~jvdm@187-072-171-209.static.ctbctelecom.com.br) |
| 20:56.05 | *** join/#debian FreezingCold (~FreezingC@135.0.41.14) |
| 20:57.50 | *** join/#debian savantgarde (~savantgar@178.74.27.208) |
| 20:59.08 | *** join/#debian Siente (Siente@78.83.27.76) |
| 20:59.09 | *** join/#debian knosys_ (~knosys@46.222.138.221) |
| 20:59.40 | *** join/#debian claw (~claw@95.89.74.84) |
| 21:00.14 | *** join/#debian WizardGed (~wizardged@unaffiliated/wizardged) |
| 21:00.58 | *** join/#debian BuFF (~3po@94.244.83.182) |
| 21:02.24 | *** join/#debian paragon_ (~paragon@73.12.11.95) |
| 21:03.40 | *** join/#debian Ciph3r (~Cyph3r@96-40-173-182.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com) |
| 21:03.42 | *** join/#debian kepta (~kepta@14.139.122.114) |
| 21:04.09 | *** join/#debian Kabukky (~kabukky@lbck-4d063511.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 21:04.15 | *** join/#debian glyf (~glyf@host-89-241-169-227.as13285.net) |
| 21:04.35 | *** join/#debian Ciph3r (~Cyph3r@96-40-173-182.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com) |
| 21:05.09 | *** join/#debian sdouble25 (~stephan@dslb-088-070-090-126.088.070.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 21:05.43 | WizardGed | Hey, quick question where do i go to ask a question about a package in jessie (I don't think it's debian-next right?) |
| 21:05.59 | *** join/#debian weld (~weld@p5488DDF5.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 21:06.29 | *** join/#debian troete (~troete@p5088C290.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 21:06.55 | *** join/#debian badiane_ka (~gdurand@cpe-24-193-80-159.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 21:08.43 | *** join/#debian hikenboot (~hikenboot@50.250.60.154) |
| 21:09.02 | kale | just ask |
| 21:09.45 | mtn | WizardGed: debian-next is for jessie support, though |
| 21:11.18 | *** join/#debian cfgmgr (~cfgmgr@dslb-188-110-246-196.188.110.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 21:12.41 | *** join/#debian astrofog (~astrofog@unaffiliated/astrofog) |
| 21:12.52 | WizardGed | mtn #debian-next Cannot join channel (+i) - you must be invited |
| 21:13.13 | mtn | WizardGed: try on irc.oftc.net ;) |
| 21:13.19 | *** join/#debian claw_ (~claw@95.89.74.84) |
| 21:13.30 | *** join/#debian teddybeermaniac (~teddybeer@178.217.186.211) |
| 21:13.36 | WizardGed | mtn: ok will do. |
| 21:13.37 | *** join/#debian noahfx_ (~noahfx@186.151.91.120) |
| 21:18.21 | *** join/#debian dm7freek (~dm7freek@2601:8:b280:79:2935:3454:678:156f) |
| 21:19.37 | *** join/#debian w1nner (~w1nner@31.131.98.82) |
| 21:20.06 | *** join/#debian w1nner (~w1nner@31.131.98.82) |
| 21:22.19 | *** join/#debian Nickeeh (~quassel@foo.kassala.de) |
| 21:22.30 | *** join/#debian movrax (~movrax@unaffiliated/movrax) |
| 21:22.40 | *** join/#debian dreamon (~dreamon@unaffiliated/dreamon) |
| 21:26.10 | *** join/#debian paragon (~paragon@73.12.11.95) |
| 21:27.01 | *** join/#debian n2diy (~darryl@24.102.213.51.res-cmts.t132.ptd.net) |
| 21:27.26 | *** join/#debian tzafrir (~tzafrir@bzq-218-28-58.cablep.bezeqint.net) |
| 21:31.10 | *** join/#debian jordila (~jordi@host114.190-230-132.telecom.net.ar) |
| 21:32.03 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1539] by debhelper |
| 21:32.36 | *** join/#debian githogori_ (~githogori@c-76-126-237-233.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 21:32.50 | *** join/#debian badiane_ka (~gdurand@cpe-24-193-80-159.nyc.res.rr.com) |
| 21:32.56 | *** join/#debian philipballew (~philip@ubuntu/member/philipballew) |
| 21:33.25 | *** join/#debian jmark_ (~jmark__@pD9F93E9E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 21:35.07 | *** join/#debian Almtesh (~Almtesh@unaffiliated/almtesh) |
| 21:35.52 | *** join/#debian adh0c (~nat@ool-4a5a4a97.dyn.optonline.net) |
| 21:35.57 | adh0c | Anyone familiar with imapsync here? |
| 21:36.24 | adh0c | I need to migrate two domains from a shared mail server running postfix/dovecot to a dedicated mail server running Zimbra. |
| 21:36.45 | *** join/#debian hanfm (~Thunderbi@koln-4d0425c9.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 21:36.58 | adh0c | Was wondering if it was best to run imapsync from the source to the destination, or a third server from which the other two are easily reachable. |
| 21:38.33 | Arahael | adh0c: I would assume that running it on either the source or dest server would be best, as it would cut down on about half the bandwidth. |
| 21:38.45 | Arahael | adh0c: But I don't know. |
| 21:38.59 | adh0c | That's a good point. |
| 21:39.11 | *** join/#debian CLaxware (~mirror@5.231.45.214) |
| 21:40.13 | *** join/#debian flux242 (~chatzilla@89.204.130.108) |
| 21:40.44 | *** join/#debian roboman2444 (~roboman24@unaffiliated/roboman2444) |
| 21:40.57 | *** join/#debian CLaxware (~mirror@5.231.45.214) |
| 21:42.07 | *** join/#debian ki0 (~ki0@92.58.126.35) |
| 21:43.00 | *** part/#debian cfgmgr (~cfgmgr@dslb-188-110-246-196.188.110.pools.vodafone-ip.de) |
| 21:43.03 | *** join/#debian RdrOfTheSt0rm (~RdrOfTheS@gateway/tor-sasl/rdrofthest0rm) |
| 21:44.54 | *** join/#debian Almtesh (~Almtesh@unaffiliated/almtesh) |
| 21:46.55 | *** join/#debian dm7freek (~dm7freek@73.181.156.29) |
| 21:51.17 | *** join/#debian cdb23ax (~Administr@080075056015.dsl0001.highway.a1.net) |
| 21:52.50 | *** join/#debian nettus (~nettus@37-252-110-186.ip.skylogicnet.com) |
| 21:53.03 | *** join/#debian lcafiero (~lcafiero@adsl-76-254-70-70.dsl.pltn13.sbcglobal.net) |
| 21:54.12 | *** join/#debian felix_mc (~unknown@c-76-27-125-245.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 21:54.14 | *** join/#debian ewb (~ewb@112.Red-83-57-68.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 21:54.18 | *** join/#debian dm7freek (~dm7freek@2601:8:b280:79:fd73:972f:c054:4f53) |
| 21:54.24 | ewb | hello friends, I am looking for a good linux manual in PDF, I want to learn commmands like xset, the basics, etc... |
| 21:55.08 | *** join/#debian Marezz (Marko@unaffiliated/marezz) |
| 21:55.49 | Arahael | ewb: http://www.linuxfromscratch.org/ |
| 21:55.56 | ewb | thx |
| 21:55.58 | *** join/#debian dm7freek (~dm7freek@73.181.156.29) |
| 21:56.07 | Iridos | xset isn't so much of a basic |
| 21:56.35 | Arahael | ewb: I'm not sure how serious I was, but that certainly made me learn a fair bit of the basics. |
| 21:56.50 | Arahael | ewb: However, the various debian manuals are fantastic. |
| 21:56.52 | Iridos | ewb, we mainly have debian-specific stuff... but start with that |
| 21:56.54 | Iridos | dpkg, grounding |
| 21:56.54 | dpkg | Before asking in here or on the <debian-user> mailing list, you should read the Installation Guide, or if you already have Debian installed, the Debian Reference. The Debian Administrator's Handbook is also good. Ask me about <ig>, <overview>, <reference>, <refcard>, <docs>, <manuals>, <fundamentals>, <newbiedoc>, <faq>, <unix lessons>, <general cli tutorial>, <debian-handbook> (e.g. in your IRC client, type /msg dpkg reference). |
| 21:57.02 | *** join/#debian nettus (~nettus@unaffiliated/innocentus) |
| 21:57.03 | ewb | Yeah Iridos, I want to learn and memorize useful things , in general |
| 21:57.09 | ewb | so i better get some commands |
| 21:57.10 | Iridos | dpkg, fundamentals |
| 21:57.10 | dpkg | You'll get more out of Debian and *nix if you learn some of the fundamentals. Read the "Unix and Internet Fundamentals" HOWTO at http://tldp.org/HOWTO/Unix-and-Internet-Fundamentals-HOWTO/ Then, read the Debian Reference at https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ |
| 21:57.13 | Arahael | ewb: Don't memorize. Just learn. |
| 21:57.20 | *** join/#debian BuFF (~3po@94.244.83.182) |
| 21:57.29 | Arahael | ewb: apropos and man are my most common commands. ;) |
| 21:57.52 | *** join/#debian joo-_ (~joo@94.144.63.222) |
| 21:58.13 | Iridos | ewb, everything in <>-type brackets is another factoid listing more things to read... you can e.g. do in here: /msg dpkg unix lessons |
| 21:58.23 | Iridos | and you will get the factoids as a private message |
| 21:58.33 | ewb | id rather have a pdf |
| 21:58.39 | ewb | mmm ill check debian info thanks |
| 21:59.06 | *** join/#debian Zoddo (~Zoddo@rnz53-1-88-126-52-16.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 21:59.07 | *** join/#debian Zoddo (~Zoddo@unaffiliated/zoddo) |
| 21:59.17 | Arahael | Iridos: I think dpkg's unix lessons conflicts with SELinux. :( |
| 21:59.52 | Iridos | ewb, I find that just reading stuff is boring and you forget what you do... it works much better if you have a goal and try to do something specific... and for that you have to figure out how some things work |
| 21:59.55 | *** part/#debian CLaxware (~mirror@5.231.45.214) |
| 21:59.57 | *** join/#debian CLaxware (~mirror@5.231.45.214) |
| 22:00.32 | ewb | Iridos, I am planning to create my emulation-linux distro, a hard work though |
| 22:00.46 | *** join/#debian ani42411 (~ani@217.25.226.160) |
| 22:00.50 | ewb | i presume starting without X would be ideal |
| 22:01.16 | ewb | wow debian reference is great |
| 22:02.09 | Iridos | Arahael, I think SELinux conflicts with pretty much everything, so I guess that's a valuable lesson in itself |
| 22:03.06 | *** join/#debian jmark (~jmark__@pD9F93E9E.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 22:03.39 | Iridos | Arahael, but don't see how those conflict with anything... they seem to be common sense |
| 22:04.07 | Iridos | except if you mean that in SELinux nobody understands what they type |
| 22:04.09 | Iridos | :-} |
| 22:04.33 | *** join/#debian trifolio6 (~h@62.43.62.203.dyn.user.ono.com) |
| 22:04.55 | ewb | what do you think of this https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/refcard/refcard.en.pdf |
| 22:05.05 | ewb | great for playing around :) |
| 22:05.21 | *** join/#debian Guest46234 (uid49748@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-dtbxheyyhfquolfw) |
| 22:05.22 | ewb | wow you saved my life |
| 22:06.28 | *** join/#debian Zoddo (~Zoddo@unaffiliated/zoddo) |
| 22:06.29 | *** join/#debian billyzed (~billyzed@c-68-62-94-85.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 22:06.36 | *** join/#debian Asiajey_ (~Asiajey@113.23.110.220) |
| 22:07.11 | *** join/#debian Zoddo (~Zoddo@unaffiliated/zoddo) |
| 22:08.30 | *** join/#debian antix (~rewt@gateway/vpn/privateinternetaccess/skarface) |
| 22:08.59 | *** join/#debian BWMerlin (~Thunderbi@142.45.233.220.static.exetel.com.au) |
| 22:10.03 | *** join/#debian ovidiu-florin (~quassel@95.85.6.163) |
| 22:10.09 | ovidiu-florin | hello world |
| 22:10.15 | *** join/#debian rogst (~roger@c83-254-66-34.bredband.comhem.se) |
| 22:10.18 | ewb | bye |
| 22:10.21 | *** part/#debian ewb (~ewb@112.Red-83-57-68.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net) |
| 22:10.23 | ovidiu-florin | I don't know what this means, please help |
| 22:10.33 | ovidiu-florin | $ l usage.sh |
| 22:10.33 | ovidiu-florin | -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 192 ian 25 00:06 usage.sh |
| 22:10.33 | ovidiu-florin | $ ./usage.sh |
| 22:10.33 | ovidiu-florin | -bash: ./usage.sh: Permission denied |
| 22:10.34 | *** kick/#debian [ovidiu-florin!~debhelper@unaffiliated/debhelper] by debhelper (flood. Please use http://paste.debian.net instead.) |
| 22:11.58 | *** join/#debian tekkbuzz (~operator@unaffiliated/tekkbuzz) |
| 22:12.58 | *** join/#debian ovidiu-florin (~quassel@95.85.6.163) |
| 22:13.06 | *** join/#debian tekkbuzz (~operator@unaffiliated/tekkbuzz) |
| 22:13.44 | ovidiu-florin | thanks for kicking me out for pasting 2 commands and their one line output |
| 22:14.09 | ovidiu-florin | debhelper: ^ |
| 22:14.14 | Stary2001 | debhelper: is a bot |
| 22:14.20 | ovidiu-florin | I suspected as much |
| 22:14.36 | Stary2001 | as for that, i have no idea |
| 22:14.36 | teraflops | ovidiu-florin: complain to the bot anyway i see 5 lines so fast that is flood |
| 22:14.39 | Stary2001 | lol |
| 22:15.05 | Stary2001 | is it by any chance on a noexec partition |
| 22:15.07 | ovidiu-florin | I loke to argue with machines :D |
| 22:15.16 | ovidiu-florin | I solved it |
| 22:15.23 | Stary2001 | heh |
| 22:15.29 | ovidiu-florin | the partition is mounted somehow that it does not permit executing |
| 22:15.36 | Stary2001 | yeah, noexec |
| 22:15.39 | Stary2001 | fun :p |
| 22:15.49 | ovidiu-florin | yeah |
| 22:15.52 | ovidiu-florin | I moved it to ~ |
| 22:15.54 | Stary2001 | heh |
| 22:17.55 | *** join/#debian Majmun (~Gost@109-93-152-20.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs) |
| 22:18.11 | *** join/#debian den (~den@149.62.16.227) |
| 22:20.59 | *** join/#debian ompaul (~ompaul@unaffiliated/ompaul) |
| 22:22.02 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1532] by debhelper |
| 22:22.18 | *** part/#debian Majmun (~Gost@109-93-152-20.dynamic.isp.telekom.rs) |
| 22:25.41 | *** join/#debian k-man (~jason@unaffiliated/k-man) |
| 22:32.03 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1525] by debhelper |
| 22:32.06 | *** join/#debian Trow (~Trow@80.12.35.92) |
| 22:33.59 | linuxuz3r | can you change the background of paper in libre office |
| 22:34.28 | *** join/#debian Almtesh (~Almtesh@unaffiliated/almtesh) |
| 22:35.04 | *** join/#debian littlebit (~Thunderbi@ulmg-5d847818.pool.mediaWays.net) |
| 22:35.57 | *** join/#debian bootstrappm (~frank@186.151.60.107) |
| 22:41.54 | *** join/#debian MidnightCommand- (~MidnightC@li438-231.members.linode.com) |
| 22:42.17 | *** join/#debian Okitain (~quassel@ppp85-141-91-119.pppoe.mtu-net.ru) |
| 22:42.47 | *** join/#debian jakesyl (~jakesyl@gateway/shell/insomnia247/x-cbqcnozzekjjmszh) |
| 22:43.42 | *** join/#debian Garrett2 (~Garrett2@unaffiliated/garrett2) |
| 22:43.51 | *** part/#debian Garrett2 (~Garrett2@unaffiliated/garrett2) |
| 22:43.57 | *** join/#debian CeBe (~CeBe@port-92-200-77-88.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 22:43.58 | *** join/#debian Agent_Isai|BNC (Agent_Isai@gateway/shell/yourbnc/x-wmtqlorewkmqjhza) |
| 22:44.01 | *** join/#debian Garrett2 (~Garrett2@unaffiliated/garrett2) |
| 22:44.30 | *** join/#debian gabrielle (~gabrielle@cpc73686-dals20-2-0-cust433.20-2.cable.virginm.net) |
| 22:45.10 | *** join/#debian nardev (~nardev@195.222.57.44) |
| 22:45.36 | linuxuz3r | found it |
| 22:45.44 | *** part/#debian nardev (~nardev@195.222.57.44) |
| 22:46.10 | *** join/#debian JiuJit (sid55708@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-qbzjiqbnjcuksbhp) |
| 22:47.25 | arcsky | what should i do to encrpyt my debian harddrive? is truecypt the best option? |
| 22:47.47 | *** join/#debian Ad1_RN (~adrian@acde181.neoplus.adsl.tpnet.pl) |
| 22:47.56 | *** join/#debian Dr_Cool (~chatzilla@2a01:e35:2434:8220:ec31:da68:711f:e3c2) |
| 22:49.36 | *** join/#debian Trow (~Trow@193.50.79.255) |
| 22:49.54 | frostschutz | arcsky, luks is more common for linux |
| 22:50.08 | *** join/#debian Corey84 (~Corey84@unaffiliated/corey84) |
| 22:51.03 | arcsky | ok |
| 22:51.19 | *** join/#debian GJdan (~dan@d154-20-235-56.bchsia.telus.net) |
| 22:52.31 | Garrett2 | Hello everybody. Sorry for the wall of text. I am trying to enable Wifi on my laptop but I just don't succeed. I installed the proprietary driver(s) and "lspci" shows both the ethernet controller (cabled connection works) as well as the network controller. so i guess the hardware is recognized by the system? pretty much all internet searches lead me to "install the proprietary firmware and off you go". I'm stuck and don't know wha |
| 22:52.33 | Garrett2 | t else to do. |
| 22:54.13 | Brigo | Garrett2, if you have installed a working driver -as it looks like- you have done the worse part. |
| 22:54.27 | Brigo | Garrett2, you now need to configure the connection. |
| 22:54.39 | Brigo | are you using network-manager? |
| 22:55.30 | *** join/#debian CeBe1 (~CeBe@port-92-200-77-88.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 22:55.37 | *** join/#debian ki0 (~ki0@92.58.126.35) |
| 22:56.44 | *** join/#debian Vutral (~ss@mirbsd/special/Vutral) |
| 22:58.09 | *** join/#debian dvs (~colin@cwv.teksavvy.com) |
| 22:58.11 | *** join/#debian hardcampa (~doh@gentoo/user/hardcampa) |
| 22:58.16 | *** join/#debian Hunterkll (~Hunterkll@vpn166.sdf.org) |
| 22:58.54 | *** join/#debian Brain (brain@cortex.brainbox.cc) |
| 22:59.09 | *** join/#debian Siente_ (Siente@78.83.27.76) |
| 22:59.49 | *** join/#debian savantgarde (~savantgar@178.74.27.208) |
| 22:59.49 | *** join/#debian mrMute (~mrMute@ip-83-134-204-94.dsl.scarlet.be) |
| 23:01.39 | *** join/#debian pseudomorph (~pseudomor@ppp118-209-14-197.lns20.mel4.internode.on.net) |
| 23:02.51 | *** join/#debian Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@unaffiliated/butt3rfly) |
| 23:03.54 | Garrett2 | sorry... yes, gnome-network-manager |
| 23:04.14 | Garrett2 | i am currently trying another package... maybe that will work, let me check real quick :) |
| 23:04.15 | *** join/#debian githogori (~githogori@98.207.182.139) |
| 23:04.57 | *** join/#debian Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@unaffiliated/butt3rfly) |
| 23:05.08 | Arahael | arcsky: TrueCrypt is discontinued. |
| 23:05.41 | *** join/#debian githogori_ (~githogori@c-98-234-224-38.hsd1.ca.comcast.net) |
| 23:06.06 | Garrett2 | thank you, brigo! i got the network card to work with the broadcom-sta-dkms package which i haven't had installed! |
| 23:07.01 | Brigo | Garrett2, well, you are wellcome of course, but i think i really do nothing :D |
| 23:07.26 | Garrett2 | you tried to help which is nice by itself :D |
| 23:08.04 | *** join/#debian dayangkun (~dayangkun@209-255-241-2.ip.mcleodusa.net) |
| 23:08.17 | *** join/#debian Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@unaffiliated/butt3rfly) |
| 23:08.24 | *** join/#debian Ciph3r (~Cyph3r@96-40-173-182.dhcp.mtpk.ca.charter.com) |
| 23:10.15 | *** join/#debian konsi (~konsi@2001:1a50:11:0:5f:8f:acd0:280) |
| 23:11.06 | *** join/#debian Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@unaffiliated/butt3rfly) |
| 23:11.19 | *** join/#debian wildc4rd (~nick@109.176.231.13) |
| 23:11.23 | *** join/#debian milobit (~milobit@unaffiliated/milobit) |
| 23:11.23 | *** join/#debian subzero79_ (~subzero79@pc-134-86-161-190.cm.vtr.net) |
| 23:12.16 | *** join/#debian konsi (~konsi@2001:1a50:11:0:5f:8f:acd0:280) |
| 23:12.37 | *** join/#debian subzero79 (~subzero79@pc-134-86-161-190.cm.vtr.net) |
| 23:12.41 | *** join/#debian trampel (~trampel@73.19.41.124) |
| 23:13.04 | *** join/#debian CrowX- (~CrowX-@79.141.122.86) |
| 23:13.14 | CrowX- | ok, how do I upgrade to python3? |
| 23:13.40 | CrowX- | Everything I found on the web taught me how to add python3 besides python2 |
| 23:13.51 | CrowX- | I don't want python2. I just want to upgrade to python3 |
| 23:14.00 | kale | where can i discuss backports? |
| 23:14.09 | CrowX- | is there a clean solution to this, or i'll have to manually build it and delete python2? |
| 23:15.39 | deepy | CrowX-: https://packages.debian.org/search?mode=path&suite=wheezy§ion=all&arch=any&searchon=names&keywords=python3 |
| 23:15.44 | Brigo | kale, backports.debian.net, i think |
| 23:15.57 | nurupo | i have an issue with grep |
| 23:16.06 | *** join/#debian Nik05 (~Nik05@unaffiliated/nik05) |
| 23:16.06 | *** join/#debian z0ran (~z0ran@gateway/tor-sasl/z0ran) |
| 23:16.08 | *** join/#debian jmark_ (~jmark__@pD9F93392.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 23:16.24 | *** join/#debian rotad (rotad@unaffiliated/rotad) |
| 23:17.02 | nurupo | when i do `grep "test" *` it says "grep: test: No such file or directory" and then prints a list of all files in current directory with :0 at the end |
| 23:17.14 | *** join/#debian Luke-Jr (~luke-jr@unaffiliated/luke-jr) |
| 23:17.18 | nurupo | like "file1.txt:0", "file2.txt:0", and so on |
| 23:17.28 | nurupo | i'm on a NTFS partition |
| 23:17.32 | *** join/#debian Butt3rfly (~Butt3rfly@unaffiliated/butt3rfly) |
| 23:18.01 | nurupo | it seems to do that only on NTFS |
| 23:18.28 | *** join/#debian meLon (~meLon@unaffiliated/earthmelon) |
| 23:18.37 | *** join/#debian dutchfish (~wil@5.199.144.223) |
| 23:18.52 | *** join/#debian dutchfish (~wil@unaffiliated/dutchfish) |
| 23:19.53 | *** join/#debian metasansana (~master@unaffiliated/metasansana) |
| 23:20.03 | *** join/#debian strkll (~exp@188.138.235.195) |
| 23:20.13 | CrowX- | deepy, ok I did install it with apt-get |
| 23:20.21 | CrowX- | and python -V shows me python2 |
| 23:20.28 | CrowX- | how do I switch to using python3 by default? |
| 23:20.41 | *** join/#debian vurma (~kimchi@nl109-141-148.student.uu.se) |
| 23:21.25 | *** join/#debian Titus (~Titus@log77-5-88-164-148-157.fbx.proxad.net) |
| 23:21.29 | *** join/#debian kradalby (~kradalby@oddish.fap.no) |
| 23:22.47 | deepy | CrowX-: do you have anything depending on python2? otherwise you could uninstall it |
| 23:24.03 | CrowX- | deepy, how can I see which package an executable belongs to? |
| 23:24.56 | *** join/#debian elico (~eliezer@mail.ngtech.co.il) |
| 23:25.02 | Brigo | CrowX-, install apt-file |
| 23:25.03 | Brigo | it will tell you. |
| 23:25.11 | elico | Was there any kernel upgrade in 7.8?? |
| 23:25.22 | strkll | hi guys I wonder if the |
| 23:25.45 | strkll | Asus X200M supports debian |
| 23:28.19 | elico | I looked at the release notes of 7.8 and it seems to have a kernel upgrade to 3.14 but a vanilla installled 7.8 system has 3.2. how would I upgrade the kerel? |
| 23:28.25 | *** join/#debian jmark (~jmark__@pD9F93392.dip0.t-ipconnect.de) |
| 23:28.54 | CrowX- | when I install a package with pip, it only installs it in /usr/local/lib/python2.6/dist-packages/ |
| 23:29.01 | CrowX- | and not in python3's dist-packages |
| 23:29.02 | CrowX- | why? |
| 23:29.11 | CrowX- | and how can I make it install in python3 too? |
| 23:30.24 | *** join/#debian ruukasu (~ruukasu@unaffiliated/ruukasu) |
| 23:31.24 | *** join/#debian nettus (~nettus@37-252-110-186.ip.skylogicnet.com) |
| 23:32.58 | *** join/#debian samlero (~samlero@c-98-202-6-124.hsd1.ut.comcast.net) |
| 23:33.03 | strkll | anybody knows if ASUS X200MA is good for debian os? |
| 23:33.24 | nkuttler | CrowX-: create a virtualenv with -p and python3 |
| 23:33.29 | *** join/#debian DaniGemini (~DaniGemin@79.114.114.174) |
| 23:33.47 | Garrett2 | elico, if you use Synaptic Package Manager, you can search for "linux-image-???" and the corresponding "linux-headers-???" files. those are the kernels. install them and reboot. if they don't work properly, reboot again and chose the previous version during the GRUB startup. then remove them via synaptic. keep in mind that Wheezy was built with the 3.2-kernel in mind so things might not work as expected. backup anything important |
| 23:33.49 | Garrett2 | before you chose to change the kernel! |
| 23:33.50 | nkuttler | CrowX-: oh, acutally, there's a python3-pip packaged |
| 23:34.52 | *** join/#debian Griff`Ron (~Griff`Ron@67.170.89.146) |
| 23:34.56 | CrowX- | nkuttler, how do I get it? I don't see it in apt |
| 23:35.04 | Arahael | CrowX-: You should ask in #python, really, but the reason is because you used python2.6's pip. |
| 23:35.09 | *** join/#debian ruukasu (~ruukasu@unaffiliated/ruukasu) |
| 23:35.13 | nkuttler | ,v python-virtualenv |
| 23:35.14 | judd | Package: python-virtualenv on i386 -- squeeze: 1.4.9-3squeeze1; wheezy: 1.7.1.2-2; sid: 1.11.6+ds-1; jessie: 1.11.6+ds-1 |
| 23:35.17 | nkuttler | ,v python3-virtualenv |
| 23:35.18 | judd | Package: python3-virtualenv on i386 -- sid: 1.11.6+ds-1; jessie: 1.11.6+ds-1 |
| 23:35.25 | nkuttler | CrowX-: oh, not in stable.. |
| 23:35.31 | Arahael | CrowX-: Use python3's pip if you want to install it into that. And yes, I highly recommend nkuttler's suggestion - you should learn about virtual envs. |
| 23:35.41 | Arahael | nkuttler: It's pip-installable anyway. |
| 23:35.52 | nkuttler | sure |
| 23:36.13 | *** join/#debian ruukasu (~ruukasu@unaffiliated/ruukasu) |
| 23:37.47 | *** part/#debian Garrett2 (~Garrett2@unaffiliated/garrett2) |
| 23:37.54 | Arahael | curses his ISP. |
| 23:41.13 | strkll | anybody knows if ASUS X200MA is good for debian os? |
| 23:42.02 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1518] by debhelper |
| 23:42.05 | samlero | why wouldn't it? does it have a cpu and ram? |
| 23:42.29 | *** join/#debian nettus (~nettus@unaffiliated/innocentus) |
| 23:42.41 | bezaban | strkll: http://sajan.io/blog/asus-x200m-perfect-linux-ubuntu-xubunu-utility-laptop |
| 23:43.00 | bezaban | google query was: asus x200ma linux laptop |
| 23:43.17 | strkll | ooh thanks man |
| 23:43.31 | samlero | bezaban: who knew it was that simple |
| 23:43.33 | *** join/#debian cadeskywalker (~madoka@APuteaux-653-1-116-36.w82-124.abo.wanadoo.fr) |
| 23:43.43 | bezaban | samlero: it's amazing |
| 23:44.03 | samlero | bezaban: can you leave off the word 'laptop' and it will still work? ;) |
| 23:44.10 | dvs | bezaban: what was the name of that website again? ;-) |
| 23:44.19 | bezaban | if it works well with ubuntu it often works well with debian |
| 23:44.50 | bezaban | samlero: yeah, I bet |
| 23:45.02 | strkll | :) ok got it |
| 23:45.05 | elico | garrett2: I will look but it seems to show only 3.2 |
| 23:45.13 | *** join/#debian pickering (~pickering@megaplonk.com) |
| 23:46.04 | *** join/#debian linuxuz3r (~linuxuz3r@2602:306:bd2a:a160:b8dc:45b4:be95:3059) |
| 23:46.22 | linuxuz3r | i get apt Bad header line [IP: 2610:148:1f10:3::89 80] |
| 23:46.32 | *** join/#debian Azodon (~Azodon3@c-76-101-6-8.hsd1.fl.comcast.net) |
| 23:46.33 | linuxuz3r | and it wont go after 100% |
| 23:46.33 | *** join/#debian CeBe (~CeBe@port-92-200-77-88.dynamic.qsc.de) |
| 23:46.37 | linuxuz3r | can someone help |
| 23:47.51 | *** join/#debian in1t3r (~LordShiva@gateway/tor-sasl/lordshiva) |
| 23:47.58 | *** join/#debian CEnnis91 (uid3543@gateway/web/irccloud.com/x-rcywcrttrmwgsfhp) |
| 23:48.21 | samlero | linuxuz3r: will you be needing some google use too? |
| 23:49.53 | linuxuz3r | ? |
| 23:49.58 | linuxuz3r | it doesnt show |
| 23:50.11 | bezaban | linuxuz3r: there is a problem with your ipv6 configuration; https://wiki.debian.org/DebianIPv6#How_to_turn_off_IPv6 |
| 23:50.40 | *** join/#debian D-Boy (~D-Boy@unaffiliated/cain) |
| 23:50.47 | bezaban | alternatively fix ipv6 connectivity if available, try #ipv6 |
| 23:50.47 | Dagger | just because the error message has a v6 IP in it doesn't mean you should immediately jump to disabling v6 :| |
| 23:50.59 | bezaban | Dagger: true |
| 23:51.34 | bezaban | but that requires you to think about a few other things, notably address distribution and firewalling ipv6 |
| 23:52.02 | *** join/#debian severide (~severide@unaffiliated/severide) |
| 23:52.03 | *** mode/#debian [+l 1509] by debhelper |
| 23:52.16 | *** join/#debian NRKA (~sailfish@77.53.46.8) |
| 23:53.01 | *** join/#debian luckman212 (~luckman21@unaffiliated/luckman212) |
| 23:53.21 | elico | anyone: *, the debian release notes states that there is a new kernel but after installing 7.8 I see 3.2 kernel. what is going on? |
| 23:53.37 | *** join/#debian nmschulte (~nmschulte@unaffiliated/reklipz) |
| 23:54.02 | *** join/#debian philipballew (~philip@ubuntu/member/philipballew) |
| 23:55.19 | ryouma | i have no idea, but did you update and upgrade? |
| 23:56.29 | *** join/#debian ki0 (~ki0@92.58.126.35) |
| 23:56.30 | elico | ryouma: yes.. |
| 23:56.36 | elico | and thanks.. |
| 23:57.00 | elico | I am unsure were to even ask... google is not up to date with a release of couple days ago :D |
| 23:57.14 | *** join/#debian billyzed (~billyzed@c-68-62-94-85.hsd1.mi.comcast.net) |
| 23:57.18 | elico | maybe the repository is not updated but I am pretty sure that it is. |
| 23:57.29 | *** join/#debian r3n1c0n (~r3n1c0n@2001:41d0:8:b330::1) |
| 23:58.06 | *** join/#debian Megaf_ (~Megaf@unaffiliated/megaf) |
| 23:59.55 | ryouma | and 3.2 is not what should be there? |
