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| 00:00.39 | ponderis1 | i just realized everything i go that attaches to the notebook is usb |
| 00:00.52 | mutante | srg: try adding "-o user" to your mount command |
| 00:00.58 | srg | mutante: Mmm, thanks! |
| 00:01.43 | srg | Can I add this to my fstab to make the options default? Like the user and noexec and whatnot? |
| 00:01.56 | ponderis1 | yes |
| 00:01.58 | mutante | srg: yes, i was about to say fstab first actually :) |
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| 00:02.15 | srg | Thanks! |
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| 00:03.16 | xreal | mutante: damn... |
| 00:03.21 | xreal | mutante: Thanks for help :D |
| 00:03.38 | srg | Hm, does vfat have atime? |
| 00:03.45 | srg | uses noatime anyway |
| 00:04.08 | CarlGel | 400 |
| 00:04.13 | CarlGel | oops, wrong window |
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| 00:07.28 | srg | What does an astrick mean after the filename in a `ls -al`? |
| 00:07.52 | phy1729 | the same thing it means elsewhere on the command line |
| 00:07.58 | phy1729 | try `echo *` |
| 00:07.59 | ponderis1 | you mean ls -al * same as just ls -al |
| 00:08.00 | damjan | srg: in the output? |
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| 00:08.20 | phy1729 | ponderis1: it isn't the same |
| 00:08.29 | abrotman | srg: ACLs |
| 00:08.38 | abrotman | (I think, I'd have to see it to be sure) |
| 00:09.00 | themill | executable |
| 00:09.02 | damjan | abrotman: no, that's + |
| 00:09.12 | phy1729 | he has -F on somehow |
| 00:09.12 | damjan | and it's not after the filename |
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| 00:09.21 | ponderis1 | the * means go down one level in the dirs |
| 00:09.35 | srg | This here: http://pastebin.com/b39c8UUs |
| 00:09.52 | themill | srg: the file is +x |
| 00:10.03 | damjan | srg: what you see is the output of the -F option to ls |
| 00:10.05 | damjan | srg: man ls |
| 00:10.07 | srg | ah, ok. It shoulnd't be. I have it mountd with noexec |
| 00:10.15 | damjan | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:10.20 | damjan | append indicator (one of */=>@|) to entries |
| 00:10.23 | srg | ah! I'll read up. THanks! |
| 00:10.58 | damjan | srg: also, directories will have a / |
| 00:11.14 | Guest46234 | can sb tell me where the alsa soundmixer is in jessie? |
| 00:11.26 | mutante | Guest46234: aumix |
| 00:11.47 | Guest46234 | mutante: no |
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| 00:12.10 | damjan | Guest46234: https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=contents&keywords=alsamixer&mode=path&suite=stable&arch=any |
| 00:12.21 | nkuttler | !tell Guest46234 about search |
| 00:12.27 | Guest46234 | everything is screwed up |
| 00:13.15 | ponderis1 | Guest46234: no everything is coming up roses |
| 00:13.58 | Guest46234 | i like roses |
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| 00:14.14 | ponderis1 | which alsamixer |
| 00:14.38 | Guest46234 | i found its running per terminal.. but not the gui |
| 00:15.02 | Guest46234 | it seems jessie replaced gtk completely |
| 00:15.14 | themill | Guest46234: how about you start again with questions that are well posed that can actually be answered |
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| 00:18.45 | granjero | hi |
| 00:18.50 | granjero | good evening |
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| 00:22.27 | p-trust | guys I have ath9k loaded and lspci shows my wifi card: AR9285 wireless driver. But when I do iwlist scan or launch wicd-curses it say 'wlan0 dosn't uspport scanning' |
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| 00:23.01 | p-trust | but "iw list" command shows a lot of information about the wireless card but on phy0 .... which isn't even an interface |
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| 00:23.41 | p-trust | I fice this behaviour for the first time, I moved to debian from slackware |
| 00:23.45 | p-trust | face* |
| 00:25.14 | p-trust | also wifi button is turned on and rfkill doesn't change the situation |
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| 00:26.13 | ponderis1 | p-trust what about iwpriv wlan0 get_site_survey |
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| 00:27.12 | p-trust | wlan0 no private ioctls. |
| 00:27.38 | ponderis1 | you don't have the driver installed or ifconfig wlan0 up is missing |
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| 00:27.50 | p-trust | no no, wlan0 is there |
| 00:27.54 | p-trust | and driver is installed |
| 00:28.07 | p-trust | modprobe ath9k is loading without error |
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| 00:28.44 | p-trust | wlan0 is actually on iwconfig showing a usual interface |
| 00:28.55 | ponderis1 | that doesn't mean anything - you can load a module with out the device being there |
| 00:29.07 | Guest46234 | ristretto image viewer doesnt show any images after upgrade, where could the problem be? .. |
| 00:29.51 | ponderis1 | Guest46234: feh has never failed |
| 00:31.03 | ponderis1 | p-trust: are you root? |
| 00:31.24 | p-trust | :D |
| 00:31.27 | p-trust | ye |
| 00:31.44 | p-trust | well u r right, dmesg doesn't show anything about initializing the wifi card |
| 00:32.03 | damjan | p-trust: paste "ip link" |
| 00:32.03 | p-trust | which is very bad :( |
| 00:32.11 | ponderis1 | is firmware needed for the wireless adapter? |
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| 00:33.38 | p-trust | damjan, I can't paste but i'll write whe wlan0 part |
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| 00:33.48 | p-trust | since it's on another pc |
| 00:34.02 | ponderis1 | p-trust - any typos and you will need to redo it all ;) |
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| 00:34.33 | p-trust | wlan0: <BROADCAST,MULTICAST> mtu 1500 qdisc noop state DOWN mode DEFAULT qlen 1000 |
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| 00:34.53 | p-trust | link/ether 00:25:d3:c5:8f:09 brd ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff |
| 00:34.55 | p-trust | that's all |
| 00:34.57 | mutante | https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/ath9k_htc |
| 00:35.10 | mutante | This driver requires firmware. |
| 00:35.46 | damjan | p-trust: it's not up |
| 00:35.55 | damjan | p-trust: ip link set up dev wlan0 |
| 00:36.17 | damjan | make sure other software doesn't interfere when you do this |
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| 00:37.53 | ponderis1 | i hate busy body other software that interferes |
| 00:38.51 | p-trust | it shouted ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready, now "iwlist wlan0 scan" os showing "No scan results" |
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| 00:39.43 | damjan | you need to run "iwlist .. scan" 2 or 3 times until it gets results |
| 00:39.56 | damjan | it's up now right? |
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| 00:40.46 | p-trust | we;;, ip link is stil showing "state DOWN" |
| 00:40.56 | Eryn_1983_FL | hi peeps |
| 00:41.21 | Eryn_1983_FL | is there a bookmark server in the debian repos |
| 00:41.30 | damjan | p-trust: state DOWN afaik is that it's not associated |
| 00:41.33 | ponderis1 | ldap? |
| 00:41.57 | Eryn_1983_FL | wait scuttle is in the repo |
| 00:42.00 | p-trust | damjan, but wicd-curses and iwlist still don't work , tried it several times |
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| 00:42.13 | ponderis1 | Eryn_1983_FL: you a mariadb coder? |
| 00:42.26 | damjan | ponderis1: I don't trust wicd much |
| 00:42.29 | Eryn_1983_FL | no... |
| 00:42.38 | damjan | (doesn't it need a daemon btw?) |
| 00:42.57 | p-trust | damjan, yea but iwlist still shows 'no scan results'. yes i have wicd daemon as well |
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| 00:43.12 | ponderis1 | Eryn_1983_FL: bookmarks for what use? |
| 00:43.17 | p-trust | probably I should look into mentioned firmware |
| 00:43.26 | Eryn_1983_FL | book marks on the web |
| 00:43.26 | ponderis1 | probably |
| 00:43.43 | Eryn_1983_FL | various i need a bookmark db/webserver like scuttle and delicious |
| 00:43.45 | ponderis1 | doesn't your browser have bookmarks? |
| 00:43.50 | Eryn_1983_FL | .... |
| 00:43.52 | Eryn_1983_FL | i hate that thing |
| 00:43.56 | damjan | p-trust: without the firmware you wouldn't even have wlan0 |
| 00:44.05 | ponderis1 | which browser? |
| 00:44.12 | p-trust | damjan, I thouht it eigher |
| 00:44.29 | damjan | p-trust: if wicd the daemon is running disable it |
| 00:44.35 | ponderis1 | p-trust check /lib/firmware for what you have |
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| 00:51.52 | Eryn_1983_FL | firefox. |
| 00:52.01 | Eryn_1983_FL | the one true browser |
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| 01:10.40 | triogenes | where should i start looking if changing a programs config doesn't alter their file in ~/.config |
| 01:11.01 | triogenes | i have multiple programs who retain configuration changes until they're restarted - and it's because they aren't writing the changes to their config files |
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| 01:15.59 | triogenes | unrelated.. is it safe to just install the newer kernel from backports on wheezy? |
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| 01:16.57 | abrotman | generally, yes |
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| 01:46.40 | fleeky | my main ssd is showing up in bios but not in gparted or fdisk or parted, is it toast ? is there any type of recovery distro i could try ? |
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| 01:49.16 | xreal | How can I figure out, if a maintainer has read my bug report? |
| 01:49.17 | TacoGS | Ultimate Boot CD to see what it can see? |
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| 01:51.16 | abrotman | xreal: you can't, just be patient |
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| 01:58.21 | MarvelDigital | woah... what's with all the 3o3? new clan? |
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| 02:01.42 | abrotman | MarvelDigital: Hi, #debian |
| 02:02.23 | MarvelDigital | hi abrotman |
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| 02:03.31 | ryouma | fleeky: lsblk show it? |
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| 02:03.57 | fleeky | ryouma: nope =. |
| 02:04.13 | fleeky | i just dont understand why it shows up in bios and not in the os |
| 02:04.34 | ryouma | bootlogd is pretty good, maybe it would have an answer |
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| 02:08.08 | fleeky | bootlogd? |
| 02:08.10 | fleeky | ill check it |
| 02:09.20 | fleeky | so boot.log ? |
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| 02:10.54 | fleeky | doesnt seem to show much, or im not looking in the right place |
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| 02:13.01 | mreverywhere | ive got an issue with my touchpad not giving any output. my touchscreen is recognized no problem. the pad is mouse0 while the screen is mouse1 i have tried the fn key to enable the touchpad and it did nothing. i tried ignoring the touchpad portion of the xorg.conf and that made it so i was stuck in terminal with no ability to load my gui. |
| 02:13.13 | SirLagz | mreverywhere: are you using Debian or Kali ? |
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| 02:13.39 | bazhang | kali |
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| 02:15.53 | mreverywhere | SirLagz kali |
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| 02:16.09 | centrx | !kali |
| 02:16.09 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>. |
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| 02:16.42 | bazhang | #kali-linux <---- mreverywhere |
| 02:17.05 | bazhang | or just install debian |
| 02:17.30 | mreverywhere | bazhang kali-linux is dead, i am in the middle of installing debian now |
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| 02:17.48 | abrotman | then why would you ask until it's installed? |
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| 02:19.18 | mreverywhere | abrotman because from what i understand debian and kali are very similar and the way to fix the issue in one should fix the other |
| 02:19.40 | centrx | right but if you haven't installed Debian, it might not even be an issue on Debian |
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| 02:23.58 | cliffer | can anybody help me to troubleshoot, why proftpd is listening on port 21 instead of my custom value 21021? |
| 02:24.27 | CHAMBERLAIN | cliffer: how did you update the setting? |
| 02:24.43 | cliffer | i changed it in /etc/proftpd.conf and restartet it using /etc/init.d/xinetd restart |
| 02:25.24 | SirLagz | cliffer: does proftp run a daemon itself ? does it need to be restarted via /etc/init.d/proftpd ? |
| 02:25.38 | CHAMBERLAIN | SirLagz is likley right |
| 02:25.49 | cliffer | SirLagz: no, its started using xinetd |
| 02:26.00 | cliffer | servertype is inetd |
| 02:26.00 | SirLagz | cliffer: is it still running since being started by xinetd ? |
| 02:26.07 | cliffer | not standalone |
| 02:26.18 | SirLagz | cliffer: perhaps you need to stop it then restart xinetd ? |
| 02:26.33 | cliffer | i did: /etc/init.d/xinetd restart |
| 02:26.45 | CHAMBERLAIN | try: /etc/init.d/proftpd restart |
| 02:26.53 | cliffer | cant be found |
| 02:26.57 | SirLagz | cliffer: check the PID of proftpd, restart xinetd, then check the PID of proftpd again. If it didn't change, it didn't restart |
| 02:28.18 | cliffer | how to check the pid if its started by xinetd? |
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| 02:28.31 | cliffer | the pid or xinetd changes, if i restart xinetd |
| 02:28.39 | cliffer | the pid OF xinetd |
| 02:28.40 | SirLagz | doesn't proftpd have its own process ? |
| 02:28.56 | cliffer | no |
| 02:29.34 | abrotman | cliffer: Unless you modified it, should use its own init script |
| 02:30.17 | abrotman | otherwise, kill -1 $(pgrep xinetd) ? |
| 02:31.25 | cliffer | but xinetd is restartet, if i use /etc/init.d/xinetd restart |
| 02:31.44 | abrotman | cliffer: dpkg -l | grep proftp .. which package are you using? |
| 02:31.47 | cliffer | i found some init script of xinetd in /etc/rc.*, but none of proftpd |
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| 02:31.58 | abrotman | cliffer: /etc/init.d/ |
| 02:32.39 | cliffer | in /etc/init.d/ there is only xinetd, no proftpd |
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| 02:32.52 | abrotman | cliffer: dpkg -l | grep proftp .. which package are you using? |
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| 02:33.07 | cliffer | psa-proftpd 1.3.5-debian7.0.build1200140529.18 amd64 ProFTPD -- Professional FTP Server. |
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| 02:33.42 | abrotman | cliffer: where did you get that? It's not a debian package |
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| 02:34.03 | abrotman | cliffer: Plesk isn't supported in this channel |
| 02:34.05 | cliffer | its prop from plesk |
| 02:34.24 | abrotman | cliffer: right, not supported here, ask #plesk |
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| 02:39.13 | cliffer | ok thx |
| 02:39.20 | CHAMBERLAIN | cliffer: try bouncing plesk, /etc/init.d/psa stop and start |
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| 02:40.35 | cliffer | CHAMBERLAIN: ftp i stil listening on port 21 |
| 02:40.53 | abrotman | cliffer: please ask the Plesk people, it's not supported here |
| 02:41.01 | abrotman | cliffer: alternately, install Debian |
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| 03:07.40 | cliffer | the solution: change it in /etc/services and in /etc/proftpd.conf |
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| 03:42.03 | xsi | What to do if I installed debian and touchpad doesn't react on touch as a click? asus eee pc 900... |
| 03:44.34 | abrotman | There are a number of wiki pages about the eeepc |
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| 03:46.29 | xsi | I've read the main https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asus_Eee_PC . There's nothing. Some another distros go out of the box with it |
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| 03:59.04 | Talen | I upgraded to wheezy, but having problems with mysql and depreciated --log, I changed log= in my cnf to general_log, but still getting the message, what file do I need to edit to fix the calling of mysqld and why didn't the upgrade fix this? /etc/init.d/mysql? |
| 03:59.24 | allonsy | hey all so I'm installing debian onto a server with hardware a couple years old and no matter what setup I try, I can't seem to get the server to see grub. Any suggestions? |
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| 04:00.42 | abrotman | upgraded *to* wheezy? |
| 04:01.08 | Talen | from squeeze, I changed my sources and di dist-upgrade |
| 04:01.10 | abrotman | allonsy: are you trying to use hwraid, and it doesn't have real raid? |
| 04:02.06 | allonsy | it has hwraid on it for the /home and /var but everything else is on a separate drive not part of the raid |
| 04:03.01 | allonsy | abrotman: I've even tried just installing everything to that little separate drive to see if it would boot but it never sees grub |
| 04:03.08 | onorua | Guys, I need to create special "installator" for our solution which let you change ip/admin username/password and the rest is installed in accordance to our requirements. This is necessary for "in house installations" for non-linux friendly admins, what is the best option to do this? |
| 04:03.23 | peos | does not support usb? |
| 04:03.39 | abrotman | dpkg: tell onorua about fai |
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| 04:03.54 | abrotman | allonsy: so theinstall finishes, installs grub, and then reboots and fails? |
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| 04:04.48 | allonsy | abrotman: installation goes fine including grub but then on reboot, I go in to select my drive and any drive I pick just hangs |
| 04:04.54 | onorua | abrotman, FAI is "fully automatic" but I need that user could change something during the install |
| 04:05.25 | abrotman | onorua: you just said it wsa according to you rrequirements? |
| 04:05.34 | abrotman | dpkg: tell onorua about custom netinst |
| 04:05.47 | abrotman | allonsy: can you try the supergrub disk to see if it can boot the installed OS? |
| 04:06.48 | allonsy | abrotman: That works but it is only a short term fix in my mind |
| 04:07.04 | abrotman | allonsy: so boot the OS, and try to reinstall grub again |
| 04:07.44 | onorua | abrotman, what about "usb" stick? in some case systems are located in HSA (high security area) without any access to anything |
| 04:07.57 | triogenes | i have multiple programs who retain configuration changes until they're restarted - and it's because they aren't writing the changes to their config files. any clue where to start? |
| 04:08.06 | allonsy | abrotman: Ok, I will try that and let you know. |
| 04:08.42 | abrotman | allonsy: okay, but I'll be asleep :) |
| 04:09.02 | allonsy | abrotman: thanks regardless |
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| 04:26.33 | marcopgordillo | please somebody know which is the /etc/apt/souce.list for debian jessie? |
| 04:29.10 | dvs | !jessie sources.list |
| 04:29.11 | dpkg | A suitable /etc/apt/sources.list for you to help with preparing the Jessie release is: "deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ jessie main", but you knew that already, didn't you? Ask me about <testing> <moving target> <testing security> and make sure you understand the implications of running Jessie. Also see <deb-src> <contrib> <non-free> <mirrors> <apt-spy> and "man sources.list" |
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| 04:32.49 | marcopgordillo | thanks dpkg |
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| 06:13.11 | viruser | Hello, I am trying to install debian on my laptop. I dd'ed the image to my usb drive but All i get is a blank screen with a cursor when i try to boot. |
| 06:13.16 | viruser | It boots fine on my desktop |
| 06:13.19 | viruser | any idea? |
| 06:13.50 | SirLagz | viruser: how old is the laptop ? |
| 06:14.20 | viruser | SirLagz: it's not that old, ultrabook i got in 2012 |
| 06:14.47 | mangoose | boot order? |
| 06:15.42 | viruser | I manually select the boot to usb-hdd when i boot, I think i have installed debian on this machine before, but it was from cd image. now i have the dvd image |
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| 06:24.12 | socomm | viruser: Check the ISO. |
| 06:24.31 | socomm | Might be bad download, or possibly something wrong with the way it was copied to USB. |
| 06:24.44 | socomm | OR something wrong with the USB itself. |
| 06:25.07 | viruser | socomm: Already did, md5sum matches. Unless writing it to usb went wrong.. |
| 06:25.07 | socomm | But I doubt. |
| 06:25.34 | viruser | I did dd if=iso of=/dev/sdc is that wrong? |
| 06:25.37 | socomm | viruser: Do you have different computer you can test on (not the install itself but that the USB is bootable) |
| 06:25.56 | viruser | socomm: I said in my original message that it boots fine on my desktop |
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| 06:26.24 | socomm | viruser: Okay then the problem seems to be your laptop. |
| 06:26.59 | socomm | viruser: Check your bios settings, also try looking at the problem you are experiencing on google. |
| 06:27.19 | socomm | google - laptop model debian install |
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| 06:27.21 | viruser | socomm: I'm not so sure.. i am talking to you with my laptop right now |
| 06:27.38 | socomm | viruser: I'm not saying your laptop is defective. |
| 06:29.37 | viruser | Well this doesn't seem to go anywhere. all i get is the touchpad problem with linux. I have a question though, if i manage to boot it from cd image, can i change the installation source mid install? I don't want to redownload all the packages |
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| 06:49.25 | shay_shay | do you guys know if theres a way to take qpopper mbox and convert it into a format dovecot understands? |
| 06:50.32 | shay_shay | I am trying to find a workaround because boss wants to use pop3 and give employees 100mb mailboxes which fill up in days not weeks and then stop working, I want to make a script which scp's the mbox file and then puts it in dovecot |
| 06:50.38 | shay_shay | on a raspberry pi |
| 06:50.47 | jelly | dovecot understands .mbox format |
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| 06:51.19 | jelly | shay_shay: if your machine is a r.pi, you're probably running raspbian instead of debian |
| 06:51.36 | shay_shay | well, it doesnt have to be a rpi |
| 06:51.52 | shay_shay | i am running debian too, i have a mini itx system i can do it on as well |
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| 06:52.55 | shay_shay | it's almost like you were implying because I said rpi that I dont use debian... :O |
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| 06:53.17 | SirLagz | shay_shay: well if you're using a Raspberry Pi, most people don't run Debian on the Pi :P |
| 06:54.02 | shay_shay | it was just an example of a server |
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| 06:55.06 | xreal | When installing a deb-file, my debconfig-settings get overwritten by .config script. Is there a way to stop this without the need to change scripts in debian/ ? |
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| 06:56.37 | viruser | I have a question regarding the hdd boot method. If i copy the initrd and vmlinuz to my current /boot partition and boot it from there, I can repartition my hdd after i booted the installer right? |
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| 06:58.06 | shay_shay | jelly, besides, who says I'm not running armel Debian on my pi? |
| 06:58.12 | shay_shay | :P |
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| 07:29.35 | Juslintek | Hi everyone, http://tny.cz/ba7e598c Tried to compile php 5.3.29 mod_php as default and 5.6 fpm as secondary, how to fix errors at the end? |
| 07:32.36 | SirLagz | Juslintek: why are you trying to compile PHP rather than using the packages ? |
| 07:32.56 | Juslintek | SirLagz I'm using directadmin custom build 2 |
| 07:33.14 | Juslintek | using package is not and option :-) |
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| 07:33.31 | SirLagz | so it's not a Debian install ? |
| 07:33.34 | Juslintek | Might get corrupted |
| 07:33.52 | Juslintek | Its Debian 7.6 amd64 with DirectAdmin in it. |
| 07:34.14 | Juslintek | DirectAdmin has CustomBuild, for downloading and compiling everything |
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| 07:34.30 | Juslintek | And this is cause by the compilation, that library is missing. |
| 07:34.47 | Juslintek | How can I add it, I think you can link it with g++ |
| 07:34.58 | SirLagz | Juslintek: I'd be asking the DirectAdmin guys for support. |
| 07:35.08 | Juslintek | Okay |
| 07:35.17 | wsky | is there a legal way i can use debian logos on disk and disc covers that i want to give away? |
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| 07:35.42 | wsky | discs* |
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| 07:56.33 | Tordek | I'm getting this error message when I reinstall some nvidia packages: update-alternatives: warning: forcing reinstallation of alternative /usr/lib/nvidia/current because link group nvidia is broken |
| 07:56.39 | Tordek | how can I fix that? |
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| 08:00.06 | Stig_Atle | Anyone of you who runs the latest KDE Plasma in debian? Does it work well for you? |
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| 08:03.13 | jelly | Stig_Atle: where would one get it from? |
| 08:03.27 | macrobat | Stig_Atle: latest? you mean you built it yourself or run unstable? |
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| 08:08.20 | Stig_Atle | macrobat: Either way, I just wonder if anyone of you run it and in what way (if you build from source etc). |
| 08:10.09 | macrobat | so, the question is just a poll? :D |
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| 08:12.36 | Acheloos | Hello |
| 08:12.56 | macrobat | good morning |
| 08:13.08 | Acheloos | i have an issue with Debian Wheezy (7.8) and my computer (dell optiplex 9020) |
| 08:13.22 | Acheloos | just after booting all is fine |
| 08:13.43 | Acheloos | then the mouse begin to disppear when i click (just for 1 sec or so) |
| 08:13.53 | Acheloos | and then it lag |
| 08:13.57 | Acheloos | a lot |
| 08:14.08 | jelly | Stig_Atle: I'll wait until debian's kde team packages it |
| 08:14.20 | Acheloos | i think it's a bad driver for the graphic chpset |
| 08:14.25 | Acheloos | (haswell) |
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| 08:15.01 | Acheloos | so i have tried to use the backports to have new kernel and better compatibility, but it ain't working |
| 08:15.03 | Acheloos | any idea ? |
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| 08:16.45 | Stig_Atle | jelly: thanks, I'll try and compile from source in a VM and see how it goes. I'm just so excited about that desktop. and I really like debian, so a combination would be nice :) |
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| 08:19.22 | Tordek | my nvidia "link group broken" error seems to have been fixed by the "update-alternatives --force --all" shortcut in the manpage, in case it helps anyone |
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| 08:21.09 | hassoon_flies | good morning |
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| 08:29.25 | maziar | hi how can i set 2 ip address on 1 interface ? |
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| 08:30.13 | electro7 | maziar: with aliases in /etc/network/interfaces. First is eth0 by default, second is eth0:0 |
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| 08:35.24 | shay_shay | i figured out what i need |
| 08:35.51 | shay_shay | fetchmail > promail > dovecot > squirrel mail |
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| 08:37.27 | drasko | HI all. What is the best way to configure Debian to permanently boot in console-only mode, i.e. to skip booting Gnome? |
| 08:37.39 | drasko | I can not see inittab to set runlevel |
| 08:37.55 | drasko | and I do not find a convenient method surfing the net |
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| 08:38.41 | electro7 | drasko: update-rc.d gdm remove |
| 08:39.11 | drasko | electro7:tried it, it does not work |
| 08:39.25 | drasko | after reboot I eneded up in graphical envirnment |
| 08:39.49 | drasko | update-rc.d gdm3 remove did not work neither |
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| 08:41.36 | electro7 | drasko: what session manager do yo have? "ps -ef | grep dm" |
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| 08:46.20 | drasko | electro7:gdm3 |
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| 08:47.58 | electro7 | drasko: "update-rc.d -f gdm3 remove" |
| 08:48.50 | drasko | electro7:khm... please look above |
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| 08:49.24 | drasko | I tried all of this - this does not work |
| 08:49.36 | electro7 | drasko: do you try with -f option? |
| 08:49.36 | drasko | you can forget about update-rc.d |
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| 08:51.13 | electro7 | drasko: "/etc/inid.d/gdm3 stop" works to stop xsession? |
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| 08:57.22 | Simplar | Hello. Where can I ask about Icecast2 on Debian? Thank you. :) |
| 08:58.16 | drasko | electro7:yes |
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| 08:58.32 | drasko | electro7:and update-rc.d does not work |
| 08:58.39 | drasko | even with -f switch |
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| 08:59.40 | Shadow` | i have this usb stick thats read only,no hardware switch,also not when opening it.el cheapo usb from alcor micro(no clue which type,1gb). gparted cant seem to do anything about it |
| 08:59.46 | Shadow` | any idea's/suggestions? |
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| 09:00.58 | nkuttler | Shadow`: insert it and check dmesg | tail or /var/log/messages |
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| 09:01.07 | electro7 | drasko: well, go with brute force, search for gdm3 in /etc/rc2.d and /etc/rc3.d and delete the simlink |
| 09:01.12 | nkuttler | !tell Simplar about ask |
| 09:01.20 | Shadow` | mkfs.vfat: unable to open /dev/sdd: Read-only file system |
| 09:01.22 | Shadow` | this one? |
| 09:01.35 | nkuttler | Shadow`: paste.debian.net the entire relevant output |
| 09:01.44 | Shadow` | that is the entire relevant output |
| 09:01.53 | Shadow` | this is gparted: Unable to open /dev/sdd read-write (Read-only file system). /dev/sdd has been opened read-only. |
| 09:02.05 | nkuttler | Shadow`: paste.debian.net the entire output |
| 09:02.09 | Shadow` | ok |
| 09:02.10 | Shadow` | figured |
| 09:02.12 | Shadow` | pointless |
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| 09:03.08 | Shadow` | http://paste.debian.net/143024/ |
| 09:03.10 | Shadow` | there |
| 09:03.13 | Shadow` | anywho thanks ofr help |
| 09:03.14 | Shadow` | bbl |
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| 09:35.38 | curvv | can i recreate partitions and reinstall debian on full encrypted disk with lvm without going through the whole encryption process again? |
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| 09:36.25 | curvv | can i decrypt and moiunt it first from live cd and then install to it? |
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| 09:39.14 | Iridos | well... it's only software, so of course it's possible in principle |
| 09:39.33 | Iridos | in a practical way, I doubt it, though... |
| 09:39.51 | Shadur | Is there a separate channel to ask specifically about customizing the installer, or will this do? |
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| 09:40.43 | CtrlC | Hi guys, I have a C++ library I want to use. I can't find the new version of it on the repos so I want to install it manually. I downloaded it's compiled version from it's site. Just wanted to know if there is any problem to copy those files in /usr/local . Here is the library(SFML): http://www.sfml-dev.org/tutorials/2.2/start-linux.php . Can I just extract it to that path? |
| 09:41.38 | Shadur | You'll probably want to compile it yourself just to make sure it's got all the links correctly, but yeah, installing to /usr/local should be mostly safe. |
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| 09:42.01 | Shadur | At least, /debian itself/ doesn't install or do anything to /usr/local/; no guarantees about anything you installed there on your own. |
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| 09:42.12 | CtrlC | Shadur: Should I just extract it to that path? |
| 09:42.18 | junka | hello< pls help |
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| 09:42.26 | Iridos | Shadur, not for the installer... but there's #debian-boot on irc.oftc.net which is a bit more focused on the installation-process |
| 09:42.31 | junka | my keyboard layout has been screwed up |
| 09:43.09 | Iridos | Shadur, depends... here is fine, too. if it's too specific nobody might know in here, though |
| 09:43.22 | archetech | just installed deb 8 jessie now wheres the repo for plasma 5 and frameworks kde? |
| 09:43.29 | junka | i was just cleaning the keyboard buttons and a lots of them was pressed and after that i have a really weird setup for example i write capital letters with caps lock on |
| 09:43.44 | junka | no the other way around |
| 09:43.52 | junka | capital letters with caps lock off |
| 09:43.57 | junka | and small ones with caps on |
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| 09:46.19 | Shadur | Iridos: Basically, I'm trying to rebuild a CD image with an added preseed file, and I seem to have found three different sets of documentation, all of which tell me to do entirely different things. |
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| 09:47.35 | CtrlC | Just copied that to /usr/local (some dirs got merged.) Thanks. |
| 09:48.07 | CtrlC | Everything Ok?:/ |
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| 09:49.00 | RoyK | seems there's a wee bug in dmesg -T :P http://paste.debian.net/143034/ |
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| 09:53.25 | Iridos | Shadur, sounds like fun |
| 09:53.36 | Iridos | dpkg, preseeding |
| 09:53.36 | dpkg | [preseed] Preseeding provides a way to set answers to questions asked during the Debian installation process, to allow for a streamlined or completely automated installation. The <install guide> provides an extensive appendix on preseeding with a full example. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Preseed and http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/394 . See also <debconf-set-selections>. |
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| 09:55.35 | Stanto | o/ |
| 09:55.53 | Shadur | Iridos: Yes, I've gotten that far. I'm now looking for a way to pre-specify specific questions (to wit, network settings) without having to go and recreate the iso image each time. |
| 09:57.02 | Iridos | I no idea about that ... you could indeed ask #debian-boot or see if in some time someone here knows... |
| 09:57.23 | Iridos | if you figure it out, it would probably be good to contribute and improve the documentation :-/ |
| 09:57.32 | Shadur | Ah well. Gonna test first whether I've gotten it to accept the preseed correctly in the first place. |
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| 10:07.58 | Simplar | Hi. How can I make multiple streams be available from one IP on IceCast2? Thanks for any tip. |
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| 10:19.46 | MACscr | im running debian 7.8 within an LXC guest on an ubuntu trusty host. For some reason the syslog is empty on the debian system. How should i go about troubleshooting it? |
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| 10:27.41 | SirLagz | MACscr: is syslog running ? |
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| 10:31.12 | MACscr | grr, i think i know the issue. The configs pushed out for my systems seem to be for 7.6 that most of my ubuntu systems run, but debian is running 5.8 |
| 10:31.49 | CtrlC | Is it possible to have libc6 at least version 2.15 to use for running a binary without blowing up the OS? |
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| 10:36.40 | MACscr | SirLagz: im running rsyslog |
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| 10:38.28 | andersVard | Hi. I'm wondering if it is possible to preseed debconf with GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT=0. |
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| 10:38.58 | andersVard | Making an unattended install for devices that most often are restarted by power off/on again. |
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| 10:40.38 | Shadur | Hokay, I've managed to hack an install iso to supposedly use the preseed file I've created, but it doesn't seem to be reading from it. Is there any way I can debug what's going on and see /why/ it's not reading the preseed? |
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| 10:42.35 | CtrlC | Not possible?:/ |
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| 10:47.24 | tremon | CtrlC: not within the debian packaging system, no. You could build a chroot (e.g. using debootstrap), and install it there |
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| 10:47.53 | soppman | hello |
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| 10:48.00 | soppman | how can I make openbox autostart upon boot? |
| 10:48.03 | jikeidan | sorry, i joined late, what was the question @tremon? |
| 10:48.17 | tremon | <CtrlC> Is it possible to have libc6 at least version 2.15 to use for running a binary without blowing up the OS? |
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| 10:48.19 | jikeidan | check out runtime protocols soppman =) |
| 10:48.38 | jikeidan | actually, I just did that |
| 10:49.00 | jikeidan | CtrlC: you running deb 7? |
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| 10:53.02 | soppman | Jikan, ehm where?:) |
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| 10:53.55 | jikeidan | it is it's own school of thought really, lemme see if i can dig up a good page on it |
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| 10:54.32 | CtrlC | I got disconnected. $%^# isp. What did I missed? |
| 10:54.50 | CtrlC | jikeidan: Yes debian 7. |
| 10:55.11 | CtrlC | miss* |
| 10:55.13 | jikeidan | soppman: read this first, to get a good understanding of the runlevel concept, but be careful with them... it's a good way to screw up your system, ie: not able to load graphics drivers or other things into the kernel |
| 10:55.16 | jikeidan | https://wiki.debian.org/RunLevel |
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| 10:55.38 | jikeidan | CtrlC: familiar with the repositories? |
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| 10:57.05 | CtrlC | jikeidan: Sure. Just the problem is that lot of packages rely on libc6. I really don't want to mess them up. |
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| 10:57.22 | jikeidan | i know... |
| 10:57.39 | jikeidan | basically what you have to do is add a different url to your repository |
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| 10:57.54 | jikeidan | one that i not for wheezy, and pull the libc6 package from there... |
| 10:58.41 | jikeidan | however, you must ONLY pull the 3 packages that it uses and itself... and then set everything back to normal or next time you run an apt-get install -f you'll potentially crash your os |
| 10:59.06 | tremon | jikeidan: and you can guarantee that pulling libc6 like that will not crash his os? |
| 10:59.15 | jikeidan | has worked for me at this point |
| 10:59.30 | jikeidan | i got the information off a website, but i altered the process a bit for my system |
| 10:59.46 | CtrlC | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:00.12 | CtrlC | I prefer a safer way! |
| 11:00.16 | jikeidan | it'll be ok CtrlC |
| 11:00.32 | jikeidan | i'll pipe you the process as soon as i type it out and you can see how you feel about it |
| 11:00.36 | tremon | CtrlC: jessie will be released in the next few months, you can wait until release and perform a dist-upgrade |
| 11:01.17 | CtrlC | jikeidan: Thanks, I know how to do it. So no need.:) |
| 11:01.26 | CtrlC | tremon: Good idea! |
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| 11:01.33 | tremon | CtrlC: or you can do a full dist-upgrade now, with the usual caveats |
| 11:01.54 | CtrlC | How about compiling it manually and some how tell the binary to use that? |
| 11:02.10 | jikeidan | i don't wanna flood the channel, so i'll pm it to you |
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| 11:04.03 | jikeidan | tremon: mind if i pipe you the process so you can look at it and verify? |
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| 11:04.56 | paperskeleton | Hi, my debian netinstall with wifi doesn't take off cos the installer does not recognise my wireless interface. it is a intel 6205, but the installer complains that iwlwifi-6000g2a-6 and 5 are missing even though they are available in non free firmware version 0.43 package on the netinstall iso |
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| 11:05.00 | tremon | CtrlC: that would work with many packages, but libc6 is an exception here. You can't link it fully statically either |
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| 11:05.42 | CtrlC | <PROTECTED> |
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| 11:06.37 | tremon | because of libnss. Which nss modules are needed depends on the configuration of /etc/nsswitch, and iirc these modules are hardcoded to be dynamically linked |
| 11:07.42 | tremon | CtrlC: installing it alongside the system one in /lib will cause other packages to use it at runtime too, which may or may not cause issues. And libc6 upstream says that installing libc6 in another location is not supported either |
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| 11:09.28 | CtrlC | Thank you guys. especially tremon and jikeidan. |
| 11:09.39 | tremon | that should be /etc/nsswitch.conf btw |
| 11:09.50 | tremon | !tell CtrlC -about debootstrap |
| 11:09.56 | tremon | !tell CtrlC -about wheezy->jessie |
| 11:10.04 | tremon | CtrlC: food for thought :) |
| 11:10.52 | paperskeleton | Anyone know why the jessie installer says iwlwifi-6000g2a-6 and 5 are missing when the files are available in the firmware .deb? |
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| 11:13.40 | tremon | paperskeleton: note that the jessie installer is still in beta. If you think you've found a bug, ask about it in #debian-boot on irc.oftc.net or file a bugreport |
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| 11:14.15 | rgr | sure you have non free enabled? |
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| 11:14.50 | tremon | paperskeleton: also, I'm not sure the installer knows how to extract firmware from .debs. You may need to extract it manually, and put its contents on the installer instead |
| 11:14.56 | paperskeleton | rgr: I downloaded the non-free netinstall iso. It has the wifi firmware 0.43 packages and i checked the files inside. they are all there |
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| 11:15.04 | paperskeleton | Of course it knows. |
| 11:15.22 | andersVard | ref my question: "in-target bash -c "echo 'GRUB_RECORDFAIL_TIMEOUT=1' >> /etc/default/grub" ; \" .... why is the result after hours of googling so simple?? :D |
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| 11:15.59 | tremon | because it takes hours of googling to find the right question? |
| 11:16.31 | andersVard | very true, indeed, it's art to form the proper question |
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| 11:25.15 | jikeidan | total newb question, when was "locate" added to bash? xD |
| 11:25.21 | jikeidan | that thing is awesome |
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| 11:28.39 | Shadur | locate isn't a bash directive, it's a separate executable and package |
| 11:29.07 | Ippolo | hello |
| 11:29.12 | Shadur | Yo. |
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| 11:29.48 | jikeidan | fair enough, either way still very useful |
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| 11:30.14 | Ippolo | I'm running archlinux encrypted with luks without lvm. Now I'd like to install debian in dual boot, also encrypted. Which is the best way I can ho for? |
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| 11:31.04 | Ippolo | I use syslinux as boot loader |
| 11:31.34 | jikeidan | i recently installed deb and kali in the same drive |
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| 11:33.23 | jikeidan | the key is to partition the drive prior to a new install, install one to the it's own ext4 (root mounted "/") and then let it install, install grub to it... and then install the other to a second partition, without resizing or messing with the original partition at all.. create yet another ext4 (or w/e file system you prefer) ((not bootable)) then install grub AGAIN to the original partition |
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| 11:34.22 | jikeidan | or if you prefer to use syslinux, then i guess don't install grub at all, via deb... but i havn't worked with syslinux, so that's where my experience ends |
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| 11:35.22 | Ippolo | so you think the best way is to erase my hard drive and re-install everything from scratch? |
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| 11:35.54 | d3xter | hey guys |
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| 11:36.41 | jikeidan | hi d3xter =) |
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| 11:37.27 | victor | hello everyone |
| 11:37.36 | jikeidan | hi to you victor |
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| 11:38.01 | victor | I have a question |
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| 11:38.34 | d3xter | i'm trying to setup a public share where guests have write access, its accessible and the folder has 777 permissions, but i'm still not able to create anything in there. smb.conf: http://pastebin.com/7muvnxGj |
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| 11:38.49 | d3xter | any hints? |
| 11:39.06 | victor | I'm using debian 8 jessie. Should I continue using it, or I should install debian 7 wheezy? |
| 11:39.50 | jikeidan | what kind of share?... like ftp? |
| 11:40.12 | d3xter | jikeidan: smb.conf = samba |
| 11:40.16 | d3xter | sorry |
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| 11:41.00 | jikeidan | either way, pretty sure you'll have to add each user you want to have access to said directory to a group that owns that directory |
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| 11:41.38 | jikeidan | just adding read/write permissions doesn't grant all users the abilities to do so |
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| 11:43.46 | testdeb | hi i already have gnome 3 working in fall back mode and would like to install xfce in my pc, do i need to uninstall gnome 3 ? the wiki says its optional https://wiki.debian.org/Xfce here. would there be any benifits of uninstalling gnome ? thank you |
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| 11:43.58 | d3xter | jikeidan: group assigned is "nobody" and "guest account = nobody" is set now too, still not working. i'm giving up |
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| 11:44.49 | jikeidan | i would say it's more to do with samba |
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| 11:45.17 | jikeidan | log in manually through the shell as a newuser account assigned to the 'nobody' group |
| 11:45.31 | jikeidan | then try and create a simple file in the directory |
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| 11:52.17 | car | d3xter, if you want a share public to everyone, try this http://pastebin.com/HMjQT6hh. security is based on directory, not users-file. |
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| 11:53.51 | car | just adjust names, where necessary |
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| 12:20.14 | nachos | Hi, is there any way to monitor a directory for file changes? Something like connecting to a socket to monitor creation of new files in directory. |
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| 12:20.51 | soppman | yes, inotify |
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| 12:24.08 | knott_rays | installed jessie, installed nvidia drivers from the packages, x not starting :/ (quite new gpu) |
| 12:24.17 | knott_rays | (not too new) |
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| 12:25.27 | dopesmoker | the seaweasel and all the mozilla substitutes are updated like the mozilla ones? |
| 12:26.23 | phix | hi gang |
| 12:27.00 | phix | dopesmoker: yeah, just rebranded, like nueraphine and obeprophein |
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| 12:27.33 | phix | except both are free |
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| 12:28.39 | osfe | how do you know and install dependencies of a debian package ? |
| 12:28.45 | osfe | please |
| 12:29.00 | damjan | osfe: use apt-get? |
| 12:29.02 | babilen | knott_rays: And you followed https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers ? Also: You want #debian-next for jessie support and I'd suggest that you paste your Xorg.0.log to http://paste.debian.net / http://refheap.com |
| 12:29.30 | osfe | damjan: I try to install debian packages of codeblocks that I downloaded on their website |
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| 12:29.40 | osfe | so I can have a recent version |
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| 12:30.15 | damjan | ah |
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| 12:30.28 | damjan | osfe: well dpkg -i ..dev will tell you the dependencies |
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| 12:34.13 | knott_rays | it cant parse the nvidia config |
| 12:36.04 | knott_rays | deleted a piece of it. works |
| 12:36.10 | knott_rays | "thanks" |
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| 12:42.32 | DelphiWorld | have a HDMI issue with alsa. aplay -l: http://paste.debian.net/143047/ |
| 12:42.49 | DelphiWorld | how to make hdmi sound as a default |
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| 12:42.58 | Veverak | hi folks |
| 12:43.00 | Veverak | oneeeee thingieee |
| 12:43.02 | Veverak | ehmm |
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| 12:44.56 | Veverak | how do you test corn jobs? |
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| 12:45.07 | Veverak | got one cron job that he setuped 2 minutes in the future to "try it" |
| 12:45.10 | Veverak | but it didn't triggered :/ |
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| 12:50.15 | reese | Veverak, do you have cron daemon started? |
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| 12:50.36 | Veverak | yep |
| 12:50.43 | Veverak | reese: other jobs works |
| 12:50.47 | Veverak | I would now by now :D |
| 12:50.50 | Veverak | it's just |
| 12:50.59 | Veverak | I suppose cron should run based on "date" ? |
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| 12:52.49 | Veverak | hmm |
| 12:52.57 | Veverak | script setuped on 05 14 * * * |
| 12:53.09 | Veverak | is 13:50:58 |
| 12:53.11 | Veverak | will see |
| 12:54.20 | reese | i dont see problem :) |
| 12:54.38 | Veverak | trie things like 40 13 when it was 13:38 before |
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| 12:55.10 | damjan | Veverak: only thing is that cron could run in different timezone than your user |
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| 12:55.49 | Veverak | damjan: and how can I figure out that? |
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| 12:57.17 | damjan | typically, cron would run in the system timezone, defined by /etc/localtime |
| 12:57.39 | damjan | you user can have a timezone defined by TZ environment variable |
| 12:57.46 | damjan | or in the DE perhaps |
| 12:57.52 | damjan | depending how you check the time |
| 12:57.54 | Veverak | shell only |
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| 12:58.53 | damjan | echo $TZ |
| 12:59.24 | Veverak | empty |
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| 13:00.52 | damjan | btw, how do you know it didn't trigger your job? |
| 13:01.08 | Veverak | date >> output.log; |
| 13:01.11 | Veverak | at the beginning |
| 13:01.20 | Veverak | running that command "manualy" works perfectly |
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| 13:02.04 | damjan | where do you expect output.log to show up? |
| 13:02.25 | damjan | hint: typically cron will not cd to your $HOME when executing commands |
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| 13:03.13 | damjan | hint²: always use full paths in cron. ALWAYS |
| 13:03.16 | damjan | even for date |
| 13:03.21 | Veverak | hmm |
| 13:03.45 | Veverak | root crontab |
| 13:04.02 | Veverak | aaand logfile is in /var/log/rt/rt-auto-resolve.log |
| 13:04.29 | Veverak | damjan: yeah, missing full path for date, had that otherwise |
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| 13:23.55 | Juslintek | Hi how to isntal zlib as shared? |
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| 13:24.02 | Juslintek | I have it installed |
| 13:24.06 | Juslintek | but its not shared |
| 13:25.13 | damjan | Juslintek: ? how do you mean it's not shared? |
| 13:25.41 | Juslintek | uslintek> asda /usr/bin/ld: /usr/local/lib/libz.a(crc32.o): relocation R_X86_64_32 against `.rodata' can not be used when making a shared object; recompile with -fPIC |
| 13:25.41 | Juslintek | <Juslintek> asdad /usr/local/lib/libz.a: could not read symbols: Bad value |
| 13:25.41 | Juslintek | <Juslintek> collect2: error: ld returned 1 exit status |
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| 13:26.05 | Juslintek | while installing clamav |
| 13:26.06 | jelly | Juslintek: why do you have a custom zlib? |
| 13:26.13 | Juslintek | DirectAdmin |
| 13:26.22 | jelly | what's that |
| 13:26.34 | Juslintek | type /j directadmin |
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| 13:26.51 | Juslintek | Or visit: http://www.directadmin.com/ |
| 13:26.56 | Juslintek | Its administration panel |
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| 13:27.17 | damjan | and? |
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| 13:27.18 | jelly | Juslintek: and that requires, of all thing, a custom zlib library? |
| 13:27.34 | Juslintek | it seems so |
| 13:27.39 | Juslintek | they have custom build |
| 13:27.46 | jelly | that's highly unusual since debian patches zlib for issues. Ask them what to do. |
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| 13:28.10 | jelly | Juslintek: what's your real goal? |
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| 13:28.37 | Juslintek | To rebuild directadmin so everything would work apache, php accesses |
| 13:28.49 | Juslintek | now on my server I can't access phpmyadmin |
| 13:28.53 | Juslintek | and squirrelmail |
| 13:29.03 | Juslintek | as well mysql permission problems arose |
| 13:29.13 | Juslintek | chmod and chown does no effect |
| 13:29.19 | jelly | ouch |
| 13:29.37 | damjan | seems like directadmin hosed your debian :( |
| 13:29.38 | jelly | sounds like a mess |
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| 13:30.02 | jelly | squirrelmail and phpmyadmin are packaged and those packages tend to work |
| 13:30.20 | jelly | Juslintek: which debian release was this? |
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| 13:30.30 | Juslintek | Debian 7.6 |
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| 13:30.43 | Juslintek | seems like directadmin support is sleeping |
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| 13:30.49 | Juslintek | they have this custom build |
| 13:30.57 | Juslintek | I'm just running ./build zlib |
| 13:31.01 | Juslintek | then ./build all d |
| 13:31.04 | Juslintek | and same stuff |
| 13:31.06 | Juslintek | same stuff |
| 13:31.09 | Juslintek | cursed circle |
| 13:31.11 | jelly | do you have backups? |
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| 13:31.23 | jelly | backups of the OS, that is? |
| 13:32.29 | Juslintek | Nonope |
| 13:32.31 | Juslintek | nope |
| 13:32.47 | Juslintek | No time for that |
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| 13:33.09 | Juslintek | I'm php developer/admin/Photoshop designer/html-css slicer at the same time |
| 13:33.16 | jelly | good luck with that system, then |
| 13:33.22 | Juslintek | As well I solder motherboards |
| 13:33.27 | Juslintek | so no spare time for backuping |
| 13:34.59 | Juslintek | jelly how can I install debian zlib? |
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| 13:35.20 | jelly | Juslintek: it's there by default. |
| 13:35.26 | Juslintek | oh |
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| 13:36.45 | jelly | Juslintek: if you can uninstall zlib generated by that "./build zlib", and install zlib1g-dev instead, that might get you past that particular issue |
| 13:37.09 | Juslintek | I noticed they have pigz in their custom build |
| 13:37.16 | Juslintek | I tried building it |
| 13:37.32 | Juslintek | and now I'll try ./build all |
| 13:37.53 | damjan | Juslintek: reinstall the zlib1g package |
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| 13:40.15 | hikenboot | trying to update debian to testing, getting this http://paste.debian.net/143052/ |
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| 13:45.13 | damjan | hikenboot: easiest would be to remove all texlive packages and then install back what you need |
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| 13:54.11 | dopesmoker | why theres people who uses ubuntu? |
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| 13:58.45 | viruser | Hello.. I'm trying to install debian since this morning and it's driving me crazy. So i have downloaded the 7.8 DVD iso, the md5sum matches. I have burnt it in my usb drive with dd. but it fails to boot on my laptop. It works fine on my desktop |
| 13:58.52 | viruser | I have tried changing the usb key, using other programs like unetbootin and lili to create the bootable usb.. But the result is the same. |
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| 13:58.58 | viruser | I get a âWelcome to grubâ screen followed by an error about missing prefix which i canât read because it goes away very fast, then i get a blank page with a non blinking cursor and nothing more. any one can help me? |
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| 14:00.19 | petn-randall | viruser: Generally, the dd approach is the right one. unetbootin and lili break the installer in subtle ways. |
| 14:00.28 | Guest80850 | hello guys |
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| 14:01.00 | petn-randall | viruser: Can you recreate the usb image with dd, and then we can try a few things when you're ready. |
| 14:01.05 | jozza | hi i cannot boot debian 6 if i symlink mtab. I want to make a read-only root filesystem for my embedded device. Are there any instruction available, what exactly needs to be changed to be able to boot to readonly fs? |
| 14:01.28 | petn-randall | viruser: Is this an UEFI laptop? If yes, you need to disable secure boot. |
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| 14:01.38 | viruser | petn-randall: I already have my other usb drive made with dd ready. Although i am posting from my laptop right now. My laptop doesn't support uefi |
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| 14:03.42 | jozza | i symlinked it to /proc/mounts as per instructions i read somewhere |
| 14:04.47 | Guest80850 | i get this error what should i do?http://www.picpaste.com/error1-6lkzQDlm.png |
| 14:05.26 | dopesmoker | someone yesterday says that i dont need any OS to install debian from a usb stick but thats not the case right? |
| 14:06.07 | mtn | Guest80850: are you using kali? it is not supported in this channel |
| 14:06.30 | Guest80850 | mtn, what should i do then? |
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| 14:06.55 | mtn | dopesmoker: depends on what exactly mean. you could have a blank hard drive and use a debian install usb to isntall debian on the blank hard drive |
| 14:07.00 | mtn | !kali |
| 14:07.00 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>. |
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| 14:08.17 | dopesmoker | but in the first page on the debian site says that i need a pc running a unix-like already |
| 14:08.33 | jelly | dopesmoker: which page is that? |
| 14:08.41 | mtn | dopesmoker: to do what, exactly? please explain in detail |
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| 14:09.41 | dopesmoker | i just want to install a mini cd in a usb drive, in a pc without any os yet |
| 14:09.45 | dopesmoker | or without any unix like yet |
| 14:09.56 | Veverak | nah |
| 14:10.01 | Veverak | my cron just won't run one line |
| 14:10.03 | Veverak | nonono |
| 14:10.05 | dopesmoker | To prepare the USB stick, you will need a system where GNU/Linux is already running and where USB is supported. With current GNU/Linux systems the USB stick should be automatically recognized when you insert it. If it is not you should check that the usb-storage kernel module is loaded. When the USB stick is inserted, it will be mapped to a device named /dev/sdX, where the âXâ is a letter |
| 14:10.05 | dopesmoker | in the range a-z. You should be able to see to which device the USB stick was mapped by running the command dmesg after inserting it. To write to your stick, you may have to turn off its write protection switch |
| 14:10.05 | Veverak | :/ |
| 14:10.15 | jelly | dopesmoker: which OS are you using now? |
| 14:10.15 | dopesmoker | this is in the debian page |
| 14:10.25 | Veverak | P.S: * * * * * echo "test" > /tmp/test.txt works prefectly |
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| 14:10.44 | mtn | dopesmoker: you will need an os to put debian on the usb stick, of course |
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| 14:14.23 | jelly | too much dope ruins your brains |
| 14:14.38 | ra0specimen | They're probably going for another distro. |
| 14:14.57 | jelly | has no problem with that |
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| 14:15.35 | ToApolytoXaos | guys, is anyone in here responsible for the debian website(s)? |
| 14:15.50 | ToApolytoXaos | i get a 404 error page for the following http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//contrib/v/virtualbox/virtualbox_4.3.18-dfsg-1_changelog |
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| 14:17.25 | jelly | ,v virtualbox |
| 14:17.26 | judd | Package: virtualbox on i386 -- squeeze-backports: 4.1.18-dfsg-2+deb7u3~bpo60+1; wheezy: 4.1.18-dfsg-2+deb7u3; wheezy-security: 4.1.18-dfsg-2+deb7u4; wheezy-backports/contrib: 4.3.14-dfsg-1~bpo70+1; sid/contrib: 4.3.18-dfsg-2; jessie/contrib: 4.3.18-dfsg-2; experimental/contrib: 4.3.20-dfsg-1 |
| 14:17.39 | jelly | ToApolytoXaos: where did you find that version? |
| 14:17.50 | jelly | doesn't seem to be available any more |
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| 14:18.23 | ToApolytoXaos | i searched on google for "virtualbox debian" term, gave me the link for wheezy and choose "jessie" from the website |
| 14:18.57 | ToApolytoXaos | then i tried to see the changes about the current version, because i have a serious "guru panic" crash on my 64-bit system |
| 14:19.08 | ToApolytoXaos | and when i attempted to open the file i got that 404 |
| 14:19.42 | jelly | ToApolytoXaos: well, you can go to http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//contrib/v/virtualbox/ and click on the version relevant for jessie at this time |
| 14:19.58 | ToApolytoXaos | thanks :) |
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| 14:20.28 | jelly | seems to be 4.3.18-dfsg-2 |
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| 14:20.50 | ToApolytoXaos | yes, i was about to type it here |
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| 14:23.19 | Voyager82 | Hello. I'm looking for a way to block the automatic execution of scripts, when I use Iceweasel. I was suggested to install the xul-ext-noscript package. Is it a good choice? Can I decide to block individual scripts, inside a web-page? Is there a way to do it manually, without installing a new package? Thanks. |
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| 14:28.51 | Rudde | How can I detach from a bash command in linux? |
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| 14:29.01 | Rudde | Just let in run and do it's think no need to wait for it. |
| 14:29.23 | ra0specimen | ctrl-z then when you're back at bash run bg |
| 14:29.27 | phy1729 | add to the end & or if you want it to keep running after the shell exits &| |
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| 14:29.32 | Rudde | I have to do it automaticly |
| 14:29.41 | Rudde | and I need to do it remote |
| 14:29.56 | Rudde | like ssh -n user@*IP* 'script to start' |
| 14:30.16 | Rudde | I don't want to wait for it to finish on the server I'm on, I just want the remote server to do it. |
| 14:30.26 | ra0specimen | phy1729 is &| similar to nohup? |
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| 14:31.01 | grayraven | Rudde: prepending the command with nohup might work. I don't believe I have used it over ssh before |
| 14:31.05 | phy1729 | it's disown |
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| 14:38.00 | sheepman | thats weird, with the whole GHOST issue I compiled some code to test for it on my server running 6.0.10 and it says its not vulnerable yet the version of glibc installed looks like it should be? |
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| 14:39.23 | bumbar | does anyone know where i could get g++ 5.0? |
| 14:39.40 | abrotman | from the gcc website |
| 14:39.50 | Voyager82 | However, I'm trying the xul-ext-noscript package. It seems pretty intuitive. |
| 14:41.01 | bumbar | abrotman, i meant already built, not source |
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| 14:42.57 | abrotman | bumbar: I don't see one, you could inquire on lists.debian.org/debian-gcc |
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| 14:43.15 | abrotman | bumbar: https://lists.debian.org/debian-gcc/2015/01/msg00017.html Seems they'r trying |
| 14:43.36 | abrotman | bumbar: hrm, I see it .. hold on |
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| 14:44.10 | Eryn_1983_FL | hi peeps i am running xmonad and jessie, if that helps, i am using guake and terminator as my x terminals, i am trying to fix my web page opening from these x terminals, it seems to try to open iceeasel and make another instance but it fails, "Iceweasel is already running, but is not responding. To open a new window, you must first close the existing Iceweasel process, or restart your system." is the error. i |
| 14:44.11 | abrotman | judd: versions gcc-5-base |
| 14:44.12 | judd | Package: gcc-5-base on i386 -- experimental: 5-20150127-1 |
| 14:44.12 | Eryn_1983_FL | have tried setting the defaults to google chrome but does not change the results of xdg-open , it still trys to open iceweasel. |
| 14:44.14 | Eryn_1983_FL | what should i do now |
| 14:44.28 | abrotman | bumbar: in experimental (even though packages.debian.org website doesn't acknowledge this0 |
| 14:44.33 | Eryn_1983_FL | also tried opening them in terminal same affect :) ^^ |
| 14:44.42 | abrotman | dpkg: tell bumbar about experimental |
| 14:44.54 | abrotman | bumbar: probably better to try this in a chroot first |
| 14:44.56 | abrotman | or vm |
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| 14:45.24 | bumbar | abrotman, yeah, i am running a vm |
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| 14:46.23 | johnfg | hi folks |
| 14:46.49 | johnfg | I've been getting a mesg on a number of websites that my adobe flash is outdated. |
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| 14:47.29 | johnfg | I'm running wheezy. Nothing for flash has come up to be updated. Has there been a change here that I'm not aware of? |
| 14:47.58 | Eryn_1983_FL | more then likely |
| 14:47.59 | Eryn_1983_FL | than |
| 14:48.15 | Eryn_1983_FL | i dont see anything in the repo for jessie either new chrome though :/ |
| 14:48.37 | johnfg | Does chrome display any flash content correctly? |
| 14:48.43 | jelly | johnfg: sure |
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| 14:49.17 | johnfg | iceweasel isn't, and only recently started giving that msg. |
| 14:51.07 | jelly | johnfg: what does "update-flashplugin-nonfree --status" say? |
| 14:51.50 | L0aD1nG | he has the "known" flash player issue? |
| 14:51.58 | valdyn | johnfg: which iceweasel version? |
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| 14:55.11 | johnfg | Got it guys. It's just been too long since I had to do anything, and regular updates don't effect flash. |
| 14:55.55 | johnfg | I only had to run: update-flashplugin-nonfree --install, and all's good and back to normal (whatever *that* is!). |
| 14:56.13 | johnfg | s/effect/affect/ |
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| 14:56.40 | SirLagz | joobus: *that* is the updater for flash |
| 14:56.53 | SirLagz | johnfg: *that* is the updater for flash |
| 14:57.00 | SirLagz | joobus: sorry, pinged you by accident lol |
| 14:57.09 | L0aD1nG | you could also reinstall it.. |
| 14:58.21 | johnfg | SirLagz: Yup, and obviously I missed running any time recently. |
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| 15:02.54 | Eryn_1983_FL | cool john |
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| 15:06.52 | abrotman | johnfg: you should probably have that in a cron task |
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| 15:06.57 | mysupper | hello |
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| 15:10.08 | johnfg | abrotman: Believe it or not, I'd just thought of that too :-) How often do you think it should be run? |
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| 15:11.37 | abrotman | johnfg: daily? :) |
| 15:11.59 | abrotman | johnfg: though you have to have the cron tell you if it updates |
| 15:12.04 | abrotman | (to restart teh browser) |
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| 15:12.14 | hikenboot | damjan, sorry I got pulled away, can you tell me a little more not sure exactly what you mean by texlive packages? |
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| 15:12.47 | hikenboot | do you mean the packages that are showing errors or some how exclude those packages from the update |
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| 15:14.42 | damjan | hikenboot: the packages that are showing errors |
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| 15:19.55 | DelphiWorld | hi debianists |
| 15:20.05 | DelphiWorld | i installed openbox / nodm |
| 15:20.20 | DelphiWorld | but i have an empty desktop, not evean a desktop but blackscreen with cursor |
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| 15:24.39 | Iridos | I never used nodm... |
| 15:26.07 | hikenboot | ok thanks |
| 15:26.21 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: how are you starting it? |
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| 15:26.38 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: auto, runing openbox-session |
| 15:27.04 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: auto what? nodm seems to imply that you have to start X manually |
| 15:27.23 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: how to start x manualy? |
| 15:27.26 | valdyn | oh, thats actually a dm |
| 15:27.29 | valdyn | !nodm |
| 15:27.30 | dpkg | Debian does not use a specific runlevel for graphical display managers by default. Just remove the DM package(s) with "aptitude remove xdm kdm wdm login.app gdm gdm3 pdm slim". "echo false >/etc/X11/default-display-manager" will also disable the DM, or just hit ctrl-alt-fN to get to a console. nodm is the name of a minimal/automatic display manager (http://www.enricozini.org/sw/nodm/). |
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| 15:27.35 | Iridos | abrotman, but "luckily" browsers crash semi-regularly ... |
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| 15:27.52 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: see that factoid, but theres actually a real dm, called nodm |
| 15:28.06 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: i use it only, i dont have any other gdm! |
| 15:28.07 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: how is that openbox-session started? |
| 15:28.10 | hikenboot | damjan one more question is the packages that I should remove on the left or the right of the error message? I assume the ones on the right are the ones its trying to install ...correct? |
| 15:28.11 | Iridos | yes... and from context, that's what he installed |
| 15:28.26 | Iridos | probably should move that factoid to a different name |
| 15:28.42 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: in /etc/default/nodm |
| 15:28.47 | DelphiWorld | there you define the exec |
| 15:28.48 | damjan | hikenboot: remove those on the right |
| 15:28.53 | DelphiWorld | oh no |
| 15:28.54 | DelphiWorld | sory |
| 15:28.57 | hikenboot | thanks a lot for the help |
| 15:29.07 | DelphiWorld | in /home/user/xsession |
| 15:29.17 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: .xsession |
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| 15:30.07 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: ok, show us that file |
| 15:30.08 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: /home/user/.xsession: exec openbox-session |
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| 15:30.35 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: that's a single line on the file |
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| 15:31.02 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: try this: insert "openbox &" before openbox-session |
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| 15:32.53 | xreal | abrotman: are you here? |
| 15:33.39 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: no diference |
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| 15:34.13 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: sory wait |
| 15:34.27 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: right click your mouse ... |
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| 15:35.02 | xreal | centrx & abrotman: I've debugged console-setup & co. the last night. It simply isn't capable of reading debconf. .config scripts create default settings or parse them from existing file. These settings get stored to debconf-DB, but it also doesn't get read on a reconfigure!! console-setup only accepts debconf when using udeb in an installer. I've rewritten the .config file and now it works... debconf is a |
| 15:35.03 | xreal | nice thing, package mainters should use it! |
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| 15:36.16 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: |
| 15:36.17 | DelphiWorld | openbox & |
| 15:36.17 | DelphiWorld | exec openbox-session |
| 15:36.29 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: it saying a existing window manager is allready runing on session 0 |
| 15:36.45 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: ok, so now you know that openbox is running |
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| 15:37.02 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: but i have nothing on desktop ? |
| 15:37.15 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: im not sure, but that might be how openbox looks by default |
| 15:37.24 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: what if you rightclick your mouse? |
| 15:37.29 | abrotman | xreal: again, append the bug |
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| 15:37.50 | xreal | abrotman: like you said: it's no bug, it never has been implemented :) |
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| 15:37.59 | abrotman | xreal: then perhaps retitle your bug |
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| 15:39.56 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: Openbox-Message: Failed to open the display from the DISPLAY environment variable. |
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| 15:40.21 | xreal | abrotman: Please help me to understand this first: Manuals say, debconf-db should be a central database, where settings for packages should be stored to and written from (like Windows Registry). I think, the main bug is, console-data and others read from INI files only and don't care about settings in debconf-db. Is debconf-db in use at all? Since they're storing data to it, there *should* be a reason of u |
| 15:40.21 | xreal | sing it? |
| 15:40.41 | xreal | abrotman: Is there a way of running .postinstall scripts only? |
| 15:41.00 | abrotman | xreal: look /var/lib/dpkg/info/ |
| 15:41.11 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: what happens when you rightclick your mouse? nothing? |
| 15:41.20 | DelphiWorld | yep valdyn nothing |
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| 15:41.47 | xreal | abrotman: I never tried running them :) 1 sec |
| 15:42.11 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: this seems to be the fault of nodm, DISPLAY should be set really |
| 15:42.30 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: anything else thant nodm? want auto login |
| 15:42.31 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: lets uh, put "xterm &" in the first line, see if that gets you a terminal |
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| 15:42.42 | ipfww | hello. |
| 15:43.22 | ipfww | guys could you tell me is it available any full packages with ipv6 tools? |
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| 15:43.43 | valdyn | ipfww: which tool do you need? |
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| 15:44.42 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: should xdm be aprropriate? |
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| 15:45.03 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: i dont think it supports auto login |
| 15:45.40 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: not a problem. will try it |
| 15:46.14 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: just install it then, it should just work with your .xsession |
| 15:46.52 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: i did |
| 15:47.01 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: i disabled nodm |
| 15:47.03 | ipfww | valdyn: i am trying to setup ipv6 here. Here's the result |
| 15:47.05 | ipfww | http://paste.debian.net/143079/ |
| 15:48.12 | valdyn | ipfww: so you dont need any tools, just fix your networking |
| 15:48.58 | Dagger | ipfww: I know you know this, but `service networking restart` is deprecated and may break things; use `ifdown $if; ifup $if` instead |
| 15:48.59 | ipfww | valdyn: how to fix it? |
| 15:49.08 | valdyn | ipfww: you need to tell us what exactly you want to do and to show us /etc/network/interfaces |
| 15:49.15 | ipfww | yes np |
| 15:49.18 | ipfww | http://paste.debian.net/143080/ |
| 15:49.21 | valdyn | ipfww: and youre probably not on debian stable |
| 15:49.27 | ipfww | this is what i've added it |
| 15:49.44 | ipfww | root@vs1146:~# cat /etc/debian_version |
| 15:49.45 | ipfww | 7.8 |
| 15:50.33 | valdyn | ipfww: thats a tunnel, its not going to work without an interface |
| 15:50.43 | Dagger | ipfww: do you have 31.13.219.146 assigned on the machine you're setting the tunnel up on? |
| 15:50.58 | ipfww | Dagger: yes of course |
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| 15:51.36 | ipfww | here's my ifconfig -a |
| 15:51.36 | Dagger | ipfww: then that all looks ok to me |
| 15:51.38 | ipfww | http://paste.debian.net/143081/ |
| 15:51.48 | Dagger | try rebooting? in case `service networking restart` has buggered something |
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| 15:52.02 | Dagger | oh, OpenVZ |
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| 15:52.06 | Dagger | that can complicate things |
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| 15:52.42 | ipfww | yes it is |
| 15:52.50 | Dagger | the provider needs TUN/TAP enabled, and there might be extra complications that I don't know about |
| 15:52.56 | valdyn | ipfww: you can just do "if-up he-ipv6", no need to restart networking |
| 15:52.58 | xreal | abrotman: got it working! "/var/lib/dpkg/info/console-setup.postinst configure" |
| 15:53.06 | Dagger | I'd suggest just giving your money to somebody that actually does v6... |
| 15:53.37 | valdyn | the tunnel is ok, but i dont know if his openvz even supports ipv6 |
| 15:53.54 | valdyn | openvz is not debian..... |
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| 15:54.26 | Dagger | valdyn: it has ::1 so it has the modules loaded/compiled in, at least |
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| 15:55.14 | valdyn | ipfww: run "ifup he-ipv6", tell us what you get |
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| 15:55.30 | abrotman | xreal: Does that help your debugging? |
| 15:55.34 | ipfww | add tunnel sit0 failed: No such device |
| 15:55.35 | ipfww | Failed to bring up he-ipv6. |
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| 15:56.11 | valdyn | ipfww: lsmod | grep tunnel4 |
| 15:56.16 | valdyn | ipfww: lsmod | grep sit |
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| 15:56.31 | valdyn | ipfww: this is where its not debian.. |
| 15:56.38 | valdyn | ipfww: but it might be supported anyway |
| 15:56.39 | ipfww | none |
| 15:56.48 | valdyn | ipfww: lsmod gives *anything* ? |
| 15:56.49 | ipfww | i found this |
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| 15:56.52 | ipfww | https://openvz.org/IPv6 |
| 15:57.00 | ipfww | nah gives my anything |
| 15:57.06 | ipfww | one big nothing |
| 15:57.19 | valdyn | ipfww: so you cant list modules.... |
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| 15:57.43 | ipfww | so the problem is in openvz? |
| 15:57.47 | valdyn | ipfww: ask your provider, whoever owns the host to openvz |
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| 15:58.22 | valdyn | ipfww: i cant say if the problem is in openvz or if the host just does not have those modules loaded |
| 15:58.50 | valdyn | ipfww: openvz is *defenitely* wrong if you want to do anything remotely fancy with networking |
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| 16:01.07 | ipfww | valdyn: thanks for the help mate. |
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| 16:02.01 | valdyn | ipfww: for all i know you need a fully virtual machine to do firewalling and certain other things |
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| 16:02.27 | valdyn | ipfww: that is kvm and a few other systems |
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| 16:04.12 | ipfww | so kvm > all |
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| 16:07.49 | xreal | abrotman: Yep. I'll add my results to the bugreport. |
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| 16:08.06 | abrotman | good plan |
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| 16:14.17 | xreal | abrotman: could you have a look at line 73 please? http://paste.debian.net/143093/ |
| 16:14.35 | xreal | abrotman: does this mean "can be removed to EOF" ? |
| 16:15.08 | xreal | abrotman: documentation is _very_ bad in Debian ;D |
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| 16:15.17 | abrotman | xreal: patches welcome .. don't be lazy |
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| 16:15.38 | xreal | abrotman: Sure, but I wonder, what *this* means? could you have a look please? |
| 16:15.54 | abrotman | It means you should ignore it |
| 16:16.00 | xreal | abrotman: Yeah, but it's an important part :) |
| 16:16.19 | xreal | abrotman: it writes /etc/default/console-setup |
| 16:16.36 | abrotman | xreal: This is where you'd ask the maintainer |
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| 16:17.17 | xreal | abrotman: Ok, but you also read the info like "can be remove until end of the file" ? |
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| 16:20.19 | xreal | abrotman: Actually, that info is totally wrong then, since "setupcon" is the most important part and it's on the end of the file. |
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| 16:21.34 | mutante | xreal: sounds like you know what the fix is then |
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| 16:28.12 | xreal | mutante: I'm too afraid to put work into it and get smashed from the maintainers. That's why I want to discuss it first. Nobody in my private live uses linux, just me. |
| 16:28.52 | mutante | xreal: mail the maintainers to discuss it first? |
| 16:29.17 | xreal | mutante: oh, didn't know they will answer. let me try |
| 16:29.28 | mutante | there's one way to find out ... |
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| 16:29.42 | abrotman | xreal: I'd just append the bug .. don't worry about being told you're wrong .. It happens from time to time |
| 16:29.54 | abrotman | Better to have it documented, others might be confused as well |
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| 16:34.32 | boudiccas | after a hardware failure, i'm back on my old backup machine running wheezy. its not been used for over a year so i've just tried to update, and got this http://paste.debian.net/143099/ how do i get round it pease? i can't install anything! |
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| 16:36.46 | Iridos | boudiccas, "echo $PATH" says? |
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| 16:37.54 | boudiccas | Iridos: zero, nothing |
| 16:38.05 | boudiccas | no output at all |
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| 16:38.38 | Iridos | boudiccas, for now: export PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin |
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| 16:39.22 | boudiccas | sorry, i did path as lower case, the output is actually /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games |
| 16:39.50 | Iridos | then become root using "su -" instead of just "su" |
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| 16:40.07 | tremon | boudiccas: that's a known sudo issue |
| 16:40.24 | Iridos | ha |
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| 16:42.05 | tremon | at some point, the default path changed. You need a "defaults secure_path=[..]" configured in newer versions |
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| 16:42.45 | boudiccas | i was trying to update using sudo |
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| 16:43.58 | tremon | boudiccas: see /usr/share/doc/sudo-ldap/NEWS.Debian.gz |
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| 16:44.58 | tremon | I see that entry is from 2011, not sure why it'd bite you now (if that is indeed what's biting you) |
| 16:45.50 | brontosaurusrex | any knows tricks to speed-up "shared folders r/w" speed in vbox or vmware? |
| 16:45.56 | tremon | boudiccas: /usr/share/doc/sudo/NEWS.Debian.gz , you probably don't have the -ldap version |
| 16:46.04 | brontosaurusrex | host:osx, guest:wheezy |
| 16:46.36 | boudiccas | thanks, i'll have a look later |
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| 16:51.38 | boudiccas | tremon: just so you know, its installing ok with su - thanks |
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| 17:03.12 | hikenboot | damjan, sorry had to step away from this again. I can not remove the packages shown on the right in order to do the upgrade to testing, because they have lots of files that are dependents. Any other possible solution? |
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| 17:03.25 | hikenboot | http://paste.debian.net/143052/ |
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| 17:04.41 | damjan | hikenboot: remove all texlive packages |
| 17:04.54 | damjan | I have no other ideas |
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| 17:09.19 | hikenboot | how do i remove them without effecting the dependecies? |
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| 17:10.59 | dAnjou | hi, stupid question: i'm setting up a jessie which uses systemd and i have a service the only provides a "classic" script that you'd put into /etc/init.d/. now i saw there are already dozens of scripts in /etc/init.d/. so i suppose i could still use this "classic" script. but how? |
| 17:11.28 | dAnjou | s/the/that/ |
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| 17:12.31 | tremon | hikenboot: that's likely to be a versioned conflict, have you mixed releases? paste the output of apt-cache policy and apt-cache policy texlive-{base,common,binaries} luatex |
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| 17:14.10 | tremon | dAnjou: do you get an error trying to use the init script? |
| 17:14.55 | dAnjou | tremon: not even sure how to use it. i suppose i have to use systemd but then i'd have to create a unit file, right? |
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| 17:15.15 | tremon | you don't have to, systemd understands init scripts just fine |
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| 17:15.32 | dAnjou | how would i start it then? |
| 17:15.39 | tremon | service $foo start |
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| 17:16.01 | dAnjou | Failed to start red5.service: Unit red5.service failed to load: No such file or directory. |
| 17:16.19 | dAnjou | maybe it couldn't parse the headers? |
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| 17:17.25 | dAnjou | because there are none, heh |
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| 17:19.39 | tremon | dAnjou: try running systemctl daemon-reload after installing the init script |
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| 17:21.30 | tremon | then start the service again |
| 17:22.20 | dAnjou | okay, it found the script but it failed to start. but that's probably the script's fault. |
| 17:22.24 | dAnjou | tremon: thanks :) |
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| 18:46.27 | jubo2 | Hiya and thanks for the stable and reliable Debian GNU/Linux OS |
| 18:47.06 | jubo2 | I get error with 'sudo aptitude upgrade' for a Debian7 - http://pastebin.com/mX7x3UAx - Could someone help me discover what seems to be the problem ? |
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| 18:48.57 | jubo2 | complains something about a loop ( in a network sense ) and something about IPTABLES |
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| 18:49.40 | valdyn | jubo2: you need to temporarily get rid of iptables or minissdpd or both (the init scripts) |
| 18:49.57 | jubo2 | I think it could be my hand-crafted IPTABLES serttings I have lovingly crafted with lot of head -> keyboard action included |
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| 18:50.31 | valdyn | jubo2: no, wrong track, the error is about a graph, but its not a real network |
| 18:50.51 | jubo2 | valdyn: ah. I think I understand ... 'xcept I don't know what is 'minissdpd' .. |
| 18:51.38 | valdyn | jubo2: you dont need to know what it is to fix this error |
| 18:51.44 | jubo2 | valdyn: ok.. the IPTABLES defences will stay up even if I temporarily move the start scripts |
| 18:52.00 | valdyn | jubo2: you only need to move one of both start scripts |
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| 18:53.49 | no_gravity | Hello! I work on my debian server via ssh/vim and it feels laggy. When I do "ping -A -c 100 hostname" I get 8% packet loss. How would you guys go about it, finding out why the connection is bad? |
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| 18:54.33 | valdyn | jubo2: after you moved one script you may want to run "dpkg --configure --all" that will *only* configure the installed packages there could not be configured instead of doing the whole upgrade at once |
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| 18:54.43 | tremon | no_gravity: use mtr and/or traceroute the connection, to see which hop is dropping packets |
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| 18:54.56 | tremon | *to debug* |
| 18:55.28 | valdyn | though in general a host dropping packets on mtr might not drop traversing packets |
| 18:55.30 | FatInSpace | Hi guys, i'm trying to turn on Generic-Segmentation-Offload , so i'm doing the command: "ethtool -K eth0 gso on" , but then when i check the status, it goes to "generic-segmentation-offload: off [requested on]" . why is it requested on? how to turn it on? or is it already turned on? when it was at off mode, it didnt say "fixed" next to it |
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| 18:55.58 | no_gravity | tremon: ok.. never tried mtr. |
| 18:56.06 | no_gravity | tremon: woah.. thats a gui thing... |
| 18:56.31 | no_gravity | tremon: hmm... it shows me "loss" on all hops. |
| 18:56.46 | no_gravity | tremon: all hops with different "loss" numbers. what do i make of this? |
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| 18:57.28 | valdyn | no_gravity: if the 2nd hop is overloaded and dropping packets, then all subsequent hops will not recieve the pings either |
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| 18:57.52 | sonno | FatInSpace: Well Iguess if you get a valid response send me a msg if you would. |
| 18:57.59 | sonno | I'm about to go on break. |
| 18:58.07 | FatInSpace | sure |
| 18:58.12 | valdyn | no_gravity: so if all listed hops drop packets then the error is between you and the gateway of your isp |
| 18:58.13 | sonno | Thanks |
| 18:58.17 | FatInSpace | still trying to google it as well |
| 18:58.23 | tremon | no_gravity: it does have a console mode iirc, but defaults to gui if available |
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| 18:58.33 | no_gravity | valdyn: the "loss" shows "4.6%" for first hop, then 5.8%, 5.6%, 10.3%, 8.1%, 7.2% ... one even shows 100%. im confused what this is supposed to mean. |
| 18:59.14 | valdyn | no_gravity: routers have no obligation at all to reply to pings |
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| 18:59.32 | valdyn | no_gravity: so any router in this sequence may be ok but drop your pings (mtr is just pinging) |
| 18:59.52 | valdyn | no_gravity: not many routers do this though, so the error is between you and your isp most probably |
| 18:59.56 | no_gravity | ok. so the routers might drop packets at will. then what does the output tell me. nothing? |
| 18:59.57 | jubo2 | valdyn: I moved /etc/init.d/iptables it contained only one line |
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| 19:00.30 | valdyn | jubo2: so you should be able to complete the upgrade |
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| 19:00.37 | no_gravity | valdyn: ok. then no matter which host i ping, i should always see packet loss, right? |
| 19:00.47 | valdyn | no_gravity: if the error is near you, yes |
| 19:01.01 | jubo2 | I 'dpkg --configure --all' now.. does that need sudo ? |
| 19:01.21 | valdyn | jubo2: of course |
| 19:01.40 | no_gravity | valdyn: well, what is "the error"? mtr shows packet loss for all hops. |
| 19:01.40 | tremon | no_gravity: mtr can't isolate which leg is causing the drops. The only reliable information is when a leg has 0% packet loss. The first hop that displays problems will distort the view of all further hops |
| 19:01.41 | jubo2 | 'k 'k |
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| 19:02.07 | valdyn | no_gravity: the error is between you and your isps gateway. From the information at hand its not possible to say more |
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| 19:02.21 | no_gravity | valdyn, tremon: the strange thing is: i only see packet loss on this machine. my other laptop, right next to me, shows 0 packet loss. |
| 19:02.50 | jubo2 | valdyn: nope.. 'sudo dpkg --configure --all' does not run |
| 19:02.50 | valdyn | no_gravity: that puts the issue even closer to that machine i guess |
| 19:02.52 | tremon | no_gravity: right, there is only 1 hop that's no shared between your machine and your laptop |
| 19:02.57 | tremon | s/no/not/ |
| 19:03.04 | valdyn | jubo2: "does not run" means what? |
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| 19:03.16 | jubo2 | complains that '--all' is impossible or something thereabouts |
| 19:03.16 | no_gravity | valdyn, tremon: both machines use the same router via wlan. |
| 19:03.24 | valdyn | jubo2: sorry, "dpkg --configure -a" |
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| 19:03.44 | valdyn | no_gravity: yes, the error is that machine |
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| 19:04.05 | no_gravity | valdyn: any idea how to diagnose what the problem is? |
| 19:04.10 | tremon | no_gravity: try connecting your machine via wired connection, it may be a driver issue |
| 19:04.20 | valdyn | no_gravity: probably bad signal, i cant know |
| 19:04.35 | valdyn | no_gravity: its bad signal or bad driver or both. |
| 19:04.35 | no_gravity | valdyn: the router is only 2m away from the machine |
| 19:05.01 | no_gravity | wil have to find another wlan stick |
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| 19:05.15 | valdyn | no_gravity: if its a stick, just use a different one |
| 19:05.28 | valdyn | no_gravity: or google about problems with the specific wlan chip |
| 19:05.38 | jubo2 | valdyn: thanks. 'sudo aptitude upgrade' running smoothly atm |
| 19:05.46 | no_gravity | valdyn: maybe change some of the wlan settings on the router? |
| 19:05.55 | valdyn | no_gravity: maybe |
| 19:06.08 | no_gravity | valdyn: it has modus "g&b","g" and "b". maybe that? |
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| 19:06.42 | valdyn | no_gravity: not probable |
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| 19:06.53 | valdyn | no_gravity: change the channel |
| 19:06.59 | no_gravity | ok... |
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| 19:07.15 | valdyn | no_gravity: id google about the specific chip though before anything else |
| 19:07.28 | no_gravity | i will try to change the channel... |
| 19:07.29 | valdyn | no_gravity: (unless you can just use a different stick) |
| 19:07.36 | no_gravity | guess that will kill this connection... |
| 19:07.40 | no_gravity | thanks everybody! |
| 19:08.03 | jubo2 | valdyn: I'd use some non-intrusive search engines like https://ixquick.com or https://duckduckgo.com |
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| 19:08.37 | valdyn | of course i dont literally mean google.com, use whatever you prefer |
| 19:08.44 | no_gravity | ha, im still here :) |
| 19:08.47 | sandman | May I get a recommendation for a software package that allows a small company to operate an in-house version of google services? Something with web-based email and such, calendering, etc |
| 19:09.04 | no_gravity | wow, packet loss got real bad now |
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| 19:10.22 | jhuebner | sandman: you're searching for the holy grail. most probably a single package wouldn't deliver.. |
| 19:10.42 | jhuebner | i really like the roundcube webmailer |
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| 19:11.10 | valdyn | sandman: they are all shite compared to google services honestly |
| 19:11.11 | jubo2 | valdyn: keep those exabyte piles of "Not-yet-decrypted-SSL traffic" building in the NSA data silos |
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| 19:12.03 | tremon | sandman: have you seen kolab? |
| 19:12.07 | valdyn | personally i think that the nsa and whoever have more data than they can actually handle |
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| 19:13.29 | jubo2 | valdyn: now it said 'Current status: 2 updates [-171].' and ended |
| 19:13.33 | jubo2 | So.. |
| 19:13.49 | valdyn | jubo2: so what you get when you purge minissdpd |
| 19:13.52 | jubo2 | I need to run 'sudo aptitude upgrade' again to get the 2 remaining |
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| 19:14.05 | sandman | tremon: Looking now |
| 19:14.12 | valdyn | jubo2: i meant, see what you get if you purge minissdpd, you may not need it, I know i don't |
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| 19:14.46 | jubo2 | valdyn: I don't know what "purge" means in this case and I still don't know what is minissdpd |
| 19:14.56 | jubo2 | *I don't know |
| 19:15.22 | valdyn | jubo2: removing a package is leaving its config on your system, purging a package means removing the config too |
| 19:15.36 | jubo2 | ah i c |
| 19:15.41 | valdyn | jubo2: if you have not modified the config then its better to purge |
| 19:15.46 | tremon | jubo2: why, it's a slim implementation of the simple service discovery procotol |
| 19:15.52 | valdyn | jubo2: (and even if you modified it it might be better to purge) |
| 19:16.13 | tremon | jubo2: we can't tell if you need that or not |
| 19:16.32 | valdyn | jubo2: its used if you have and access embedded systems |
| 19:16.35 | jubo2 | I don't recall 'sudo aptitude install minissdpd'. Should this be a problem? |
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| 19:16.49 | valdyn | jubo2: i sure as hell dont need it, my systems run debian or similar |
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| 19:18.11 | valdyn | jubo2: for example, your tv or your fritzbox services may be discovered using minissdpd |
| 19:18.17 | FatInSpace | Hi guys, i'm trying to turn on Generic-Segmentation-Offload , so i'm doing the command: "ethtool -K eth0 gso on" , but then when i check the status, it goes to "generic-segmentation-offload: off [requested on]" . why is it requested on? how to turn it on? or is it already turned on? when it was at off mode, it didnt say "fixed" next to it |
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| 19:20.01 | jubo2 | ok ok.. |
| 19:20.10 | tremon | FatInSpace: it's requested on because you ran that ethtool command. the driver or nic may be unable to support it |
| 19:20.13 | jubo2 | I 'sudo aptitude purge minissdpd' ? |
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| 19:20.34 | valdyn | FatInSpace: i dont really know how this works, still though, this will need driver support, you may want to google a) if this is supported by linux for your hardware and b) how its switched on |
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| 19:22.00 | FatInSpace | tremon: i'd say if its like this: "netns-local: off [fixed]" , then it means its not supported and im unable to change that. |
| 19:22.23 | FatInSpace | valdyn: i'll try that |
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| 19:23.29 | valdyn | http://www.linuxfoundation.org/collaborate/workgroups/networking/gso |
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| 19:24.14 | valdyn | FatInSpace: is this like a 10GE nic? |
| 19:24.29 | valdyn | FatInSpace: because if its slower than that, theres probably no point at all in doing this |
| 19:24.51 | FatInSpace | no, " Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8111/8168B PCI Express Gigabit Ethernet controller (rev 07)" |
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| 19:29.08 | valdyn | jubo2: yea |
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| 19:31.57 | FatInSpace | valdyn: i've found the solution |
| 19:32.17 | FatInSpace | the way to do so is to turn on "scatter-gather" |
| 19:32.49 | FatInSpace | once i've turned it on, 2 features turned on as well: http://dpaste.com/3DP9H9B |
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| 19:35.31 | DelphiWorld | guys how to fix this? |
| 19:35.35 | DelphiWorld | couldnt find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig |
| 19:35.39 | DelphiWorld | up on starting xbmc |
| 19:35.48 | valdyn | FatInSpace: nice |
| 19:36.04 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: which gfx chip is it? |
| 19:36.13 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: how do i know? |
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| 19:37.03 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: lspci | grep -i vga |
| 19:37.25 | damjan | DelphiWorld: how do you run xmbc? in a graphical session? |
| 19:37.43 | DelphiWorld | damjan: nop |
| 19:37.54 | valdyn | damjan: it runs in X I think |
| 19:38.06 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: so? |
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| 19:38.26 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: this: |
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| 19:38.31 | DelphiWorld | 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Atom Processor D4xx/D5xx/N4xx/N5xx Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02) |
| 19:38.47 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: apt-get install libgl1-mesa-glx |
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| 19:39.22 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: sory but it's allready here;( |
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| 19:39.33 | valdyn | I think this is that powervr chip |
| 19:39.45 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: this is foxconn nt535 |
| 19:40.26 | damjan | Intel® Graphics Media Accelerator 3150 |
| 19:40.33 | valdyn | yes |
| 19:40.38 | valdyn | not really by intel |
| 19:40.42 | damjan | DelphiWorld: try running it in a graphical session |
| 19:40.56 | DelphiWorld | damjan: runing what ? |
| 19:41.03 | damjan | xbmc |
| 19:41.11 | DelphiWorld | damjan: did allready |
| 19:41.18 | damjan | you said "nop" |
| 19:41.28 | DelphiWorld | damjan: maybe i got confused;) |
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| 19:41.38 | damjan | valdyn: this is not the powerVR |
| 19:42.14 | damjan | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intel_GMA#GMA_3150 |
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| 19:43.03 | damjan | DelphiWorld: paste the output of glxinfo |
| 19:43.09 | DelphiWorld | i dont even have /etc/X11/xorg.conf |
| 19:43.23 | damjan | DelphiWorld: recently you don't need one |
| 19:43.51 | DelphiWorld | damjan: sory but glxinfo dont run in my session (remotely), due to tts. i can't run it inside of the machine |
| 19:44.10 | damjan | how do you start xbmc then? |
| 19:44.26 | valdyn | damjan: xbmc runs in X |
| 19:44.31 | DelphiWorld | damjan: my friend tryed it remotely using vnc |
| 19:44.42 | damjan | DelphiWorld: VNC doesn't support GLX of course |
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| 19:44.52 | valdyn | damjan: typically it runs in a wm with kiosk mode |
| 19:44.54 | DelphiWorld | damentz: he's using rdp |
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| 19:45.24 | damjan | DelphiWorld: does rdp support GLX ??? (I don't think so) |
| 19:45.36 | DelphiWorld | damentz: i realy dont know;) |
| 19:45.39 | valdyn | damjan: this is irrelevant |
| 19:45.47 | damjan | DelphiWorld: you'll have to run xbmc ON THE physical machine |
| 19:45.59 | valdyn | damjan: its an X app, the question is if *Whatever* X server he uses supports glx |
| 19:46.00 | DelphiWorld | damentz: will try |
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| 19:46.14 | damjan | valdyn: he was trying to run it in vnc |
| 19:46.40 | valdyn | damjan: xvncserver might not support glx, but of course any vnc server running on top of a local X will "support" it fine |
| 19:46.58 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: i use xrdp |
| 19:47.26 | magnulu | does anyone have experience with resolving logitech media server not being able to look up internet addresses? |
| 19:47.53 | damjan | DelphiWorld, valdyn: nope xrdp has its own X server. probably doesn't support GLX either |
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| 19:48.20 | DelphiWorld | ok hold on |
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| 19:48.55 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: why are you doing this? it should suck and be slow, since xmbc runs entirely in opengl |
| 19:49.19 | DelphiWorld | valdyn: cause i am blind, and no way to start it myself. so wanted my friend to configure it for me, got it? |
| 19:49.32 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: yes |
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| 19:50.04 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: start it locally, serve that local desktop via and vnc or rdp server |
| 19:50.06 | damjan | DelphiWorld: uh. well. do you have a *local* X running? |
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| 19:50.25 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: i meant *any* vnc or rdp server |
| 19:50.27 | DelphiWorld | damjan: i do |
| 19:50.50 | damjan | ok. then you can run xmbc. ok cool. |
| 19:50.54 | valdyn | DelphiWorld: one such program would be in the package "x11vnc" |
| 19:51.12 | damjan | right ^ I was gonna suggest that |
| 19:51.26 | DelphiWorld | lol |
| 19:51.32 | damjan | DelphiWorld: off topic, how do you use IRC? |
| 19:51.49 | valdyn | screenreader? |
| 19:52.00 | DelphiWorld | damjan: windows, in adition to a screen reader (jaws for windows). otherwise, iPad with (VoiceOver) |
| 19:52.24 | valdyn | screenreader in highspeed |
| 19:52.26 | damjan | and you type on a keyboard? |
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| 19:52.35 | DelphiWorld | daljyes, i know it A to Z;) |
| 19:52.41 | damjan | you're pretty fast, and make almost no errors |
| 19:52.49 | damjan | except for my nickname :) |
| 19:52.53 | DelphiWorld | damjan: stop... my english is full of errors |
| 19:53.12 | DelphiWorld | damjan: lol hehehe your nickname issue is just a tab aautocomplete;) |
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| 19:55.00 | DelphiWorld | xmms is headless, right? |
| 19:55.10 | valdyn | no |
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| 19:55.19 | DelphiWorld | ok so my friend is mpd |
| 19:55.27 | valdyn | yea |
| 19:55.37 | damjan | I use mpd at home. pretty neat |
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| 19:55.42 | DelphiWorld | time for nfs |
| 19:56.40 | valdyn | xmms2 may be headless optionally |
| 19:56.59 | Lirion | did anyone try mpd with jessie yet? |
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| 20:04.36 | AnimalFarmPig | okay, this is a very strange question. I've always ignored gnome's notification area. Really don't care what happens there. Now, I'm trying to run an application (Istanbul) that says one must interact with it through the notification area. How do I bring that up in gnome3? |
| 20:06.45 | mtn | AnimalFarmPig: super key or activities on panel or hot corner. then look at bottom, may have to run cursor to bottom of screen |
| 20:07.36 | AnimalFarmPig | mtn: hmm... that's what I thought/assumed, but I'm trying that and getting nothing. Maybe it's a problem with the application. Seems to be running through... |
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| 20:08.25 | mtn | AnimalFarmPig: there is also an extension you can install called topicon which puts the notification area on the panel |
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| 20:09.51 | AnimalFarmPig | wait, just got it to come up by moving mouse to the bottom of the screen after hot corner, but doesn't seem repeatable. Is there a hotkey for it maybe? |
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| 20:09.54 | teraflops | AnimalFarmPig: afaik you can enable disable notifications per application did you check that? |
| 20:10.10 | AnimalFarmPig | yeah, just checked it, they're enabled, and when I get the area to come up, I can see it running |
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| 20:10.46 | teraflops | per application as in: enable notifications for Istabuml? |
| 20:10.58 | AnimalFarmPig | yep, was already enabled. Also, figured out how to do it |
| 20:11.04 | teraflops | ah |
| 20:11.14 | AnimalFarmPig | super key, mouse down to the bottom of the screen, drag mouse right along the bottom |
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| 20:11.40 | AnimalFarmPig | thanks for the help |
| 20:11.41 | teraflops | wow that's a hard job |
| 20:11.59 | AnimalFarmPig | yeah, obscure gesture, and searching the internet didn't turn up any documentation |
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| 20:12.46 | teraflops | AnimalFarmPig: just curious isn't istambul a screen recording thingy |
| 20:14.04 | AnimalFarmPig | teraflops: yeah |
| 20:14.28 | AnimalFarmPig | looking under gnome section of repository, it was what came up when I search for screen recorder |
| 20:14.52 | teraflops | AnimalFarmPig: gnome has a built int one |
| 20:15.25 | AnimalFarmPig | teraflops: oh! |
| 20:15.29 | AnimalFarmPig | what's it called? |
| 20:15.48 | teraflops | i do not know if it has a name |
| 20:16.13 | AnimalFarmPig | I'll look for it. Thanks! |
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| 20:16.27 | DelphiWorld | back |
| 20:16.49 | teraflops | AnimalFarmPig: Shift+Ctrl+Alt+R |
| 20:16.51 | thiagoc | running wheezy without X, trying to make udisks work, connecting via ssh on the server I can mount but if I run "sudo su -l another_user" I can't |
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| 20:17.01 | thiagoc | any clues? |
| 20:17.28 | DelphiWorld | damjan: x11vnc do port 5910? not 5900? |
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| 20:24.59 | AnimalFarmPig | teraflops: hmm... this seems to only record about 30 second snippets |
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| 20:27.16 | teraflops | AnimalFarmPig: I said it exists far from that never tried it |
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| 20:32.38 | AnimalFarmPig | teraflops: yeah, nice for a short snippet, but I was recording something a little longer. Cool trick though |
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| 20:33.20 | teraflops | AnimalFarmPig: also i think it does not record audio by default |
| 20:33.43 | AnimalFarmPig | no worries. Used istanbul, seem to have got a good record of what I wanted, now just trying to get it to stop recording.... |
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| 20:33.56 | teraflops | heh |
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| 20:34.51 | AnimalFarmPig | not responding to my clicks. Wow, this is so annoying. Notification area is a terrible idea. |
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| 20:36.48 | mtn | AnimalFarmPig: remember what I said about an extension? |
| 20:37.17 | teraflops | AnimalFarmPig: im my case i just use the same screencast script on all the DE/WM it launches stop with a keybind and it shows notifications through notify-osd |
| 20:37.18 | AnimalFarmPig | mtn: oh man, I somehow missed that |
| 20:37.26 | mtn | AnimalFarmPig: there is also an extension you can install called topicon which puts the notification area on the panel |
| 20:37.26 | AnimalFarmPig | I'll check it out |
| 20:37.39 | mtn | AnimalFarmPig: makes it really easy ;) |
| 20:37.45 | DelphiWorld | damjan & valdyn |
| 20:37.52 | DelphiWorld | thank guys kodi work localyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy |
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| 21:18.45 | polyphagia | hi friends |
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| 21:24.00 | Pegasus_RPG | vook: I don't think so, but I've never used fiber. You might try asking in ##linux too |
| 21:25.05 | Volunteers | hi polyphagia |
| 21:25.33 | polyphagia | hi Volunteers |
| 21:27.06 | samlero | vook: do you have the driver for it installed? |
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| 21:34.27 | LtEddie | I was curious how I can portforward using iptables on debian |
| 21:34.34 | LtEddie | I want ot portforward 28015 both TCP and UDP |
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| 21:37.05 | samlero | do you have a router in your network connected to the internet? |
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| 21:37.17 | LtEddie | this is on a dedicated server samlero |
| 21:37.32 | samlero | so it connects directly to the internet? |
| 21:37.49 | LtEddie | yea |
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| 21:38.45 | LtEddie | samlero, its a dedicated server with SYS :P |
| 21:38.48 | LtEddie | I don't know the modem |
| 21:39.03 | samlero | if it is directly connected then you don't need port forwarding |
| 21:39.11 | LtEddie | yea but the reason I ask is because |
| 21:39.14 | LtEddie | I need this for a VM :P |
| 21:39.36 | LtEddie | it is directly connected its just I need to do it for a kvm |
| 21:39.48 | samlero | don't you think before you start with iptables you might want to know what your router is? |
| 21:39.49 | LtEddie | so I need to portforward it to the ip of the vm |
| 21:40.04 | LtEddie | well the fact that this hosting doesnt say what router I use |
| 21:40.08 | samlero | they can help in #netfilter |
| 21:40.54 | LtEddie | oi I cant ask on how to use iptables and portforward to a specific ip? |
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| 22:26.52 | Rals_ | hi |
| 22:27.38 | Rals_ | I've just configured tightvncserver in debian but when I access remotely i can not interact with the current session. Can I connect with the open session instead of creating a new one ? |
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| 22:30.56 | magnulu | is there an easy way of tracing the route a certain process is (trying) to take through my network? the program in question is logitechmediaserver, and I cannot seem to get it to spit it out from debug log |
| 22:31.31 | Walex | magnulu: processes don't take routes through networks... |
| 22:31.56 | Walex | magnulu: maybe you have watched too many cyberscifi movies :-) |
| 22:32.19 | Walex | Rals_: yes, if you created it to be persistent. |
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| 22:33.49 | magnulu | Walex: ha ha ... ;-) |
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| 22:35.00 | DelphiWorld | anyone know what's the default port of x11 vnc? |
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| 22:35.30 | Rals_ | Walex: I just run it with --> tighvncserver |
| 22:35.35 | Walex | DelphiWorld: what? it is always 5900+$DISPLAY |
| 22:36.05 | DelphiWorld | Walex: then how to know the existing $display? |
| 22:36.34 | DelphiWorld | Walex: i want to give someone access to my xSession |
| 22:36.48 | Walex | DelphiWorld: 'echo $DISPLAY' |
| 22:37.00 | Walex | Rals_: that should give it the right value |
| 22:37.03 | DelphiWorld | Walex: duh... but i'm having remote ssh |
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| 22:37.22 | Walex | Rals_: double check with 'lsof -a -i tcp -c Xvnc' |
| 22:37.27 | nebbia | hi everyone, i have a question, why do i always have so much problems when trying to compile programs? I usully read the README file, make ./configure make and make install as advised, but always get some error... |
| 22:37.45 | Rals_ | Walex: let me check it :) |
| 22:38.05 | magnulu | Walex: I am trying to troubleshoot why logitechmediaserver is not able to connect to the net - and I suspect it is trying to communicate through eth0, when it should do it through tun0 - how can I check my theory? |
| 22:38.17 | DelphiWorld | do i need like tigvnc? |
| 22:38.24 | Rals_ | nothing Walex |
| 22:38.26 | Walex | magnulu: the packets of a process follow the same route as any other process's packets except if you did some very strange routying config |
| 22:38.27 | Rals_ | no output |
| 22:38.34 | DelphiWorld | same here lsof -a -i tcp -c Xvnc no output |
| 22:38.35 | Walex | Rals_: then it is not running... |
| 22:38.46 | Walex | maybe it is 'Xtightvnc' |
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| 22:38.56 | Walex | try 'ps xu | grep vnc' |
| 22:39.12 | Rals_ | Xtightvnc :1 |
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| 22:39.24 | Walex | then substitute |
| 22:39.28 | DelphiWorld | no one |
| 22:39.35 | Rals_ | yes so, from the client how can i interact with that session ? |
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| 22:39.40 | Walex | DelphiWorld: in your case it would be a module in the X server |
| 22:39.44 | gephorian | ip route get <addr> |
| 22:39.45 | DelphiWorld | Rals_: you are having same issue as me? |
| 22:39.50 | Walex | DelphiWorld: so try '-c Xorg' |
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| 22:39.54 | Rals_ | DelphiWorld: not sure |
| 22:39.55 | magnulu | Walex: or unless the process is behaving in a strange way, right? |
| 22:40.12 | Walex | magnulu: no. processes send packets to the kernel, the kernel routes |
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| 22:40.23 | magnulu | Walex: oh.. :) |
| 22:40.37 | DelphiWorld | Walex: confused... |
| 22:40.49 | Rals_ | Walex: me too xDD |
| 22:40.55 | Rals_ | Walex: is multitask :) |
| 22:41.02 | Rals_ | he is attending a lot of people |
| 22:41.11 | DelphiWorld | yep |
| 22:41.18 | Walex | DelphiWorld: Rals_: your cases are quite different in detail |
| 22:41.46 | Rals_ | in my case I want to connect to the same display as the server |
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| 22:41.49 | DelphiWorld | Walex: i just want to share my existing session |
| 22:42.04 | Walex | DelphiWorld: Rals_: but a VNX server has *two* TCP ports open: to one the X11 programs connect, to the other the VNC client(s) connect. |
| 22:42.04 | DelphiWorld | Rals_: same as me so |
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| 22:42.38 | Walex | DelphiWorld: as a rule if $DISPLAY is say 3, the X11 port is 6003 and the VNC port is 5903 |
| 22:43.15 | Rals_ | Walex: yes. I have these |
| 22:43.16 | Rals_ | 5901/tcp open vnc-1 |
| 22:43.17 | Rals_ | 6001/tcp open X11:1 |
| 22:43.39 | Rals_ | but when I try this: xtightvncviewer 192.168.1.100::5901 I get no answer |
| 22:44.03 | Walex | Rals_: then you can't connect to that port. It is not a VNC issue |
| 22:44.38 | Rals_ | sorry Walex I meant that when I connect to xtightvncviewer 192.168.1.100::5901 I do it correctoy |
| 22:44.41 | Rals_ | correctly |
| 22:44.43 | Rals_ | but |
| 22:44.49 | Rals_ | when I do this xtightvncviewer 192.168.1.100::6001 |
| 22:44.54 | Rals_ | no response |
| 22:45.12 | Walex | Rals_: of course. You are trying a VNC connection to an X11 service port |
| 22:45.44 | Rals_ | then, from the client how can I connect to the current session |
| 22:45.56 | Walex | Rals_: now you have me confused. |
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| 22:46.14 | Rals_ | Walex: sorry maybe is my english |
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| 22:46.44 | Walex | Rals_: 'xtightvncviewer' is an X server and a VNC client. |
| 22:46.48 | Rals_ | let me explain. When I connect to the server using this --> xtightvncviewer 192.168.1.100::5901 I connect perfectly. |
| 22:47.10 | Walex | Rals_: the X11 clients connect to the X server, not to the VNC one. |
| 22:47.13 | Rals_ | but I can not see the current windows in the server. I want to interact with the current session |
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| 22:47.39 | Rals_ | Walex: then I have to use a X11 client to interact with the current session right ? |
| 22:47.42 | Walex | Rals_: so to connect to the X serverfor example: 'xterm -display 192.168.1.100::6001' |
| 22:47.49 | Walex | Rals_: so to connect to the X serverfor example: 'xterm -display 192.168.1.100:1' |
| 22:47.56 | Rals_ | ah let me try it |
| 22:48.12 | Rals_ | xterm: Xt error: Can't open display: 192.168.1.100::6001 |
| 22:48.13 | Rals_ | I get that |
| 22:48.17 | Walex | Rals_: so to connect to the X serverfor example: 'xterm -display 192.168.1.100:1' |
| 22:48.42 | Rals_ | Client is not authorized to connect to Serverxterm: Xt error: Can't open display: 192.168.1.100:1 |
| 22:48.50 | Walex | Rals_: authorize it... |
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| 22:49.25 | Walex | Rals_: what I suspect is that you are trying to do stuff that you don't understand, just at random. |
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| 22:50.27 | Rals_ | Walex: I think I have to read more :p |
| 22:50.31 | Walex | Rals_: perhaps you need to think more clearly about what you wan to achieve. The typical use of VNC is: |
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| 22:50.54 | Walex | Rals_: on system "SERVER" you have an X server and X clients connected to the X server. |
| 22:51.12 | Walex | Rals_: on system "SERVER" you also have an X client which is also a VNC server. |
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| 22:52.20 | Rals_ | Walex: I understand |
| 22:52.34 | Rals_ | I'm reading it right now. Thank you so much :) |
| 22:52.39 | Walex | Rals_: on system "CLIENT" you have a VNC client that connects to the VNC server on system "SERVER" and that display a copy of the X server screen and keyboard and mouse on that system. So on "CLIENT" you can interact with the X servers and clients on "SERVER" as if they were running on "CLIENT" |
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| 22:53.25 | Rals_ | Walex: I understand |
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| 22:53.39 | Walex | to complicate matters the VNC server on "SERVER" can also run its own virtual X server inside itself. |
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| 22:55.08 | Rals_ | Walex: thank you so much |
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| 22:56.46 | Walex | Rals_: so if you want to run X clients on "CLIENT" that connect to the X server on "SERVER" you need direct connections or port forwarding, not VNC |
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| 23:01.43 | samlero | ::6001? or :6001 |
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| 23:08.55 | intothem1untains | Running Debian 7.8 here... How can I install the root CAs? It says that ca-certificates is a virtual package without installation candidates |
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| 23:10.00 | YamakasY | since when is the #Ubuntu channel such bad ? |
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| 23:10.56 | YamakasY | no serious people in there anymore, even the ops are n00bs it seems |
| 23:11.42 | cafuego | #ubuntu-getoffmylawn is there -> ;-) |
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| 23:12.20 | nebbia | hi everyone i have a question, when i do fdisk -l what are /dev/loop0 /dev/loop1 and /dev/loop2 ?? |
| 23:12.35 | cafuego | intothem1untains: any other packages with certs? mebbe do an apt-cache search certificate |
| 23:12.36 | YamakasY | cafuego, dunno ? everyone blames there ? |
| 23:13.00 | intothem1untains | cafuego: no, it seems ca-certificates is the one to install |
| 23:13.02 | cafuego | nebbia: they're loopback devices, ways to mount files as disks |
| 23:13.22 | nebbia | you mean like folders ?? |
| 23:13.28 | YamakasY | cafuego, it´s really a pain for the #Ubuntu community I hope Debian picks up |
| 23:13.32 | tremon | intothem1untains: ca-certificates should not be a virtual package. Are you using a broken mirror perhaps? |
| 23:13.32 | nebbia | i can mount folders and files as disk ? |
| 23:13.38 | cafuego | nebbia: Say you have downloaded an iso |
| 23:13.42 | nebbia | ok |
| 23:13.52 | cafuego | nebbia: You can link that to a loopback device and then mount the loopback device. |
| 23:14.18 | nebbia | how many loop can i have ? infinite ? |
| 23:14.25 | intothem1untains | tremon: no, i'm using a basic system built with debootstrap --variant=minbase stable |
| 23:14.45 | cafuego | nebbia: until you run out of internal minor numbers for loop devices |
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| 23:15.05 | intothem1untains | tremon: my sources are stable, stable-updates and security though, so it should be there... |
| 23:15.16 | nebbia | which is ?? sorry don't understand |
| 23:15.31 | intothem1untains | tremon: deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable main |
| 23:15.31 | intothem1untains | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian stable-updates main |
| 23:15.31 | intothem1untains | deb http://security.debian.org stable/updates main |
| 23:15.38 | intothem1untains | (sorry for that) |
| 23:15.40 | cafuego | nebbia: 256 of them |
| 23:16.11 | cafuego | nebbia: The kernel internally refers to device files via their minor and major number. |
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| 23:16.17 | cafuego | nebbia: do ls -l /dev/loop0 |
| 23:16.25 | samlero | nebbia: didn't the rest of the line tell you what was mounted on them?" |
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| 23:16.45 | cafuego | nebbia: You'll see "brw-rw---- 1 root disk 7, 0 Oct 16 09:38 loop0" |
| 23:17.03 | tremon | intothem1untains: maybe the mirror was in the process of being updated. Maybe try a different mirror, or try again in half an hour. It could also be a bug in debootstrap, but I see no obvious way for it to be a bug |
| 23:17.09 | cafuego | nebbia: So the first char is a 'b' - which means it's a special block device (the other kind is 'c' - character device) |
| 23:17.34 | cafuego | nebbia: the "7, 0" as opposed to the file size are block major and minor numbers. |
| 23:18.24 | intothem1untains | tremon: ok, i updated again and now it works ;) |
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| 23:18.31 | cafuego | nebbia: each device file has those |
| 23:19.05 | cafuego | nebbia: Those numbers range from 0 to 255, so since loop devices have major 7, they can have 256 (0-255) minors, so 256 max loopback devices. |
| 23:20.07 | cafuego | nebbia: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/Linux-Filesystem-Hierarchy/html/dev.html |
| 23:20.09 | nebbia | a question about debian... why on the site i only find stable and testing distro, where are unstable and experimental ? |
| 23:20.37 | cafuego | nebbia: The mean (but mostly correct) answer is that if you can't find those, you shouldn't be using them. |
| 23:21.22 | nebbia | ok but so do they exist or nort? and just for info where do we download them |
| 23:21.24 | cafuego | nebbia: Basically, if you want instable you do a minimal testing install, then dist-upgrade. |
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| 23:22.45 | nebbia | sorry and for the experimental ? |
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| 23:23.16 | cafuego | you pick specific packages you want and add them to unstable |
| 23:24.05 | nebbia | okso there isn't really an experimental version |
| 23:24.36 | cafuego | well, there are lots of package sin experimental, possibly all of them. But I assume you want to *use* your system |
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| 23:25.05 | nebbia | ok but one cannot decide ton install all the packages experimental right ? |
| 23:25.26 | cafuego | You can, but I think that would be widely regarded as silly. |
| 23:25.43 | nebbia | and how one should do then ? |
| 23:25.47 | cafuego | I mean, why would you? Just because you want the latest everything, even if it's broken? |
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| 23:26.09 | cafuego | There are easier ways to do that |
| 23:26.15 | nebbia | sorry cafuego... it's not what i want to do but it is only to understand how debian versions work |
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| 23:28.39 | PeQuEnO_TuX | hello all |
| 23:29.02 | nebbia | but is making a dist upgrade from a testing minial is the official way to install an unstable version of debian ? |
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| 23:29.23 | cafuego | nebbia: yep |
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| 23:30.17 | PeQuEnO_TuX | i install debian after first boot i got black screen on it using a powerppc my video card have port 1 and port2 my monitor is connected to port 2 dvi you guys think is taht the problem with black screem? |
| 23:30.31 | tremon | nebbia: neither unstable nor experimental is a complete release. Both are overlays and should be used in combination with testing |
| 23:30.43 | samlero | are you confusing 'testing and see what new things are on linux from what you know' with compiling new versions of software and making sure they all work together? |
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| 23:31.10 | tremon | unstable is almost a complete release, however packages may temporarily disappear from unstable to resolve conflicts or package migrations |
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| 23:36.26 | samlero | even a new stable release should be avoided until it gets to a few minor numbers unless you want to test it |
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| 23:37.24 | tremon | samlero: of course not. If you want to test it, you do it before release. That's why it's called testing |
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| 23:37.39 | samlero | lol |
| 23:37.55 | samlero | so why are there minor numbers .... |
| 23:38.30 | phogg | samlero: for correcting problems that persisted in to the release |
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| 23:39.06 | samlero | sounds like testing to me |
| 23:39.17 | tremon | samlero: because not enough people test the new release before it's actually released |
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| 23:41.01 | samlero | testing is a specialty and usually you want the 'randomness' of users doing 'random things' to bring out the real final bugs |
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| 23:45.02 | tremon | samlero: my point is, debian is a community effort. If you want the new release to work for you, the best way to ensure that is to report issues before the release. |
| 23:45.51 | tremon | "don't use it until it's well-done" is both self-fulfilling and self-defeating |
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| 23:47.40 | samlero | tremon: how many times have you had to waste time with someone who claims they've found a major major earth shattering end of the world how could you let this slip by someone who calls them selves a professional code ... when it turns out to be just they improper configuration or typo? |
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| 23:48.32 | samlero | let the professional testers at it first then they can pass it down the line .. |
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| 23:48.56 | primo | do any of you guys or gals use recordmydesktop? |
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| 23:50.07 | tremon | samlero: how many professional testers do you think debian employs? |
| 23:50.38 | samlero | i never said employs |
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| 23:51.55 | unborn | samlero, you are the tester.. same as anyone else.. this is opensourse - we all contribute |
| 23:53.01 | unborn | tremon, that was a bit out of sense question but I get your point.. :) |
| 23:53.38 | unborn | primo I use vlc |
| 23:53.41 | unborn | fot that |
| 23:53.46 | tremon | of course. But I wanted to contrast the proprietary model with debian's |
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| 23:54.34 | samlero | primo as in a snapshot ever few seconds? or as you type ? |
| 23:55.43 | primo | unborn, samlero- full video recording |
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| 23:56.19 | samlero | scrot as fast as it will go? or mplayer dumpstream the dev? |
| 23:56.36 | unborn | primo, yap vlc is working for me |
| 23:56.40 | primo | I've been trying one thing and another. so far recordmydesktop is the first to work but it chooses my laptop mic even when my mic is plugged in |
| 23:57.02 | unborn | primo, back in a time on ubuntu I used kazam but now vlc.. |
| 23:57.02 | primo | unborn- I didn't know vlc could screencast? |
| 23:57.04 | samlero | tremon left? |
| 23:57.28 | unborn | primo, vlc can do a lot.. even converting dvds, recording etc |
| 23:57.36 | primo | unborn- I need alsa only. pulse causes issues for me |
| 23:57.39 | unborn | primo, do research |
| 23:57.56 | samlero | i had case law ready to rebute him ;) |
| 23:57.58 | primo | unborn- I use it for watching videos and thats it. I will look it up |
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| 23:59.58 | primo | how is the mic which is plugged in identified differently than the laptops? |
