| 00:00.07 | maazu | gtg |
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| 00:00.21 | PeQuEnO_TuX | no yet still 75% |
| 00:00.24 | conc | on the homepage it says: WARNING: Using TrueCrypt is not secure as it may contain unfixed security issues |
| 00:00.41 | conc | but why they doesnt tell what the security issues was+ |
| 00:00.42 | conc | ? |
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| 00:01.59 | PeQuEnO_TuX | because they dont know lol |
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| 00:02.10 | ompaul | conc: you didn't read my comment correctly |
| 00:02.22 | ompaul | conc: details, everything is in the details |
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| 00:02.31 | ompaul | they think but don't know that the earlier versions are ok |
| 00:02.44 | ompaul | but that might not work with your current version of $systems |
| 00:02.57 | ompaul | so bottom line - if you encrypt make sure you don't lose your pass |
| 00:03.33 | ompaul | in case you get a bang on the head have someone you know and trust hold a document that does not have your obvious name but contains your sekriets |
| 00:04.54 | conc | PeQuEnO_TuX: on the homepage they says they know? :/ |
| 00:05.32 | conc | ompaul: sry what details? url please? |
| 00:06.14 | ompaul | conc: read my earlier comments about backsups and then check for luks |
| 00:06.38 | ompaul | you are either going down a rabbit hole after truecrypt or you will read their statements and be somewhat happier |
| 00:07.01 | ompaul | they said the last version doesn't look great but before that they had some confidence |
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| 00:09.05 | ompaul | conc: I've given you data, go check links from your local search engine |
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| 00:09.41 | ompaul | conc: and then independently verify the data |
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| 00:13.13 | conc | ompaul: the last version of truecrypt is only for decryption ? |
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| 00:14.33 | PeQuEnO_TuX | hey guys i just finish to install debian here on my powermac and everything or anything i try to open just show a blue box |
| 00:14.35 | ompaul | conc: I'm regretting I mentioned it - go look at LUKs the right way to do linux |
| 00:14.37 | conc | ompaul: what search engine are you using? google? |
| 00:14.52 | ompaul | conc: that has no relevance to the advice given |
| 00:15.05 | conc | ompaul: where is the links? |
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| 00:15.32 | ompaul | conc: LUKs is something you should search for it is the linux / debian way to FDE |
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| 00:15.42 | ompaul | have a nice day I've done all I can with that subject |
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| 00:16.06 | conc | thanks have a nice day to you too |
| 00:16.25 | conc | ompaul: do you know if there are any known security issues for truecrypt? |
| 00:16.51 | ompaul | conc: I said I'll leave it there |
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| 00:19.41 | Rusty1 | to what groups does a user have to belong in order to access usb drives when they are plugged in? |
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| 00:22.04 | conc | is it possible to bruteforce a password from truecrypt with 30+ letters,numbers,characters? |
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| 00:22.55 | conc | it would take over 100 years, right? |
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| 00:24.19 | ompaul | it is possible to bruteforce most password setups |
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| 00:24.57 | conc | ompaul: it would still take you 100 years probably? |
| 00:25.25 | ompaul | no I'd use a length of lead piping and some duct tape |
| 00:25.38 | ompaul | lols |
| 00:25.57 | ompaul | conc: this is conversation not debian support please move it to #debian-offtopic |
| 00:25.59 | ompaul | or forget it |
| 00:26.17 | conc | ompaul: would you say that luks are more secure then truecrypt? |
| 00:28.09 | ompaul | conc: one does not simply make claims, would I trust it more, answer: yes |
| 00:28.41 | ompaul | conc: for the last time if you want conversation move to #debian-offtopic |
| 00:28.53 | conc | ok |
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| 00:36.43 | hds- | hi there |
| 00:38.21 | hds- | iâm using raspbian which i guess is a debian version for raspi and i thought i might find help here. i have a hfs+ disk i would like to mount and there is this automounting system in effect. now i need additional mount settings, where would i put them? the automounting system rewrites /etc/mtab so that canât be the place |
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| 00:45.54 | nea1 | hi, is there a way how to find out why my raid is currently rebuilding? |
| 00:46.03 | nea1 | i haven't found any hdd errors |
| 00:46.47 | abrotman | hds-: Raspbian is supportedin #raspbian |
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| 00:47.21 | hds- | abrotman: the quesiton is pretty general, though. |
| 00:48.51 | abrotman | hds-: then ask ##linux |
| 00:48.58 | abrotman | this channel only supports Debian |
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| 00:50.02 | hds- | abrotman: ah, the debian community. famed for its willingness to help instead of being a pain in the ass. |
| 00:51.19 | ompaul | hds-: help debian user |
| 00:51.30 | ompaul | not some other distro where who knows the changes |
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| 02:10.31 | sithfm | how come when i `aptitude reinstall lightdm` it keeps the modified config file i have? |
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| 02:10.44 | sithfm | I want to revert to the package-installed default lightdm.conf |
| 02:10.47 | sithfm | thoughts? |
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| 02:12.24 | srg | I got a new VPS with debian. The installed image they gave me as a password for the root account. I made myself a user account and installed sudo. Can I disable the root account and only use sudo? Is that a GoodIdea(tm)? |
| 02:12.27 | polyphagia | remove the config sithfm |
| 02:12.31 | polyphagia | then restart lightdm |
| 02:12.42 | srg | has* |
| 02:12.47 | polyphagia | alternatively |
| 02:12.49 | polyphagia | one sec |
| 02:13.10 | sithfm | yeah i just renamed it and am now reinstalling pokg |
| 02:13.12 | polyphagia | sudo apt-get -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confnew" -o Dpkg::Options::="--force-confask" install --reinstall lightdm |
| 02:13.33 | polyphagia | from my bash history lol |
| 02:13.36 | sithfm | i only use aptitude but i can set those dpkg options either way |
| 02:13.37 | sithfm | thanks |
| 02:13.41 | sithfm | hehe thx |
| 02:13.47 | polyphagia | not from lightdm but yeah |
| 02:13.48 | polyphagia | alrighty |
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| 02:16.38 | sithfm | well i used apt-get |
| 02:16.41 | sithfm | *sigh* |
| 02:17.01 | sithfm | everybody says 'aptitude is superior' but yeah when you need those dpk options set, what to do? |
| 02:19.10 | polyphagia | idk sithfm i've never had a reason to use aptitude yet lol |
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| 02:21.06 | abrotman | sithfm: they work in aptitude also |
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| 02:25.31 | sithfm | hm, what argument, didn't see it in the manpage |
| 02:25.41 | sithfm | i know the options will be parsed but how to specify on aptitude cmdline |
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| 02:27.34 | polyphagia | <PROTECTED> |
| 02:28.15 | polyphagia | maybe they phrase it differently |
| 02:29.12 | abrotman | sithfm: what about it doesn't work with aptitude? |
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| 02:32.18 | attuuu23 | hi how do I mount an android as mount drive instead of mtp device? |
| 02:32.28 | attuuu23 | android tablet I mean |
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| 02:59.22 | The_Schmidt | attuuu23: it might depend on how large the drive is |
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| 03:15.59 | srg | I got a new VPS with debian. The installed image they installed has a password for the root account. I made myself a user account and installed sudo. How can I disable the root account and only use sudo? Is that a GoodIdea(tm)? |
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| 03:16.58 | sydney | srg: You cannot disable the root acount directly, |
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| 03:17.22 | sydney | Its that backbone of the system. |
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| 03:17.47 | srg | Hm, when I installed debian on my laptop, I never set up a root password |
| 03:18.02 | maik | when no password is set for root you aren't able to login to the system as root |
| 03:18.08 | abrotman | srg: passwd -l root |
| 03:18.09 | sydney | So it gave it a random root password. |
| 03:18.40 | sydney | There you go. :) I'm going to bed now. |
| 03:19.05 | srg | abrotman: Thanks, that's what I was looking for! |
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| 03:28.20 | isaakk | Hi guys, I'm a noob and would appreciate help with getting X/nvidia working again. The error log says Warning. couldn't open module nvidia, then no drivers available, and then finally no screens found |
| 03:30.30 | isaakk | if that's too vague, heres a picture from the log, http://imgur.com/xQmg7y5 |
| 03:30.38 | isaakk | it used to work, but then stopped working. |
| 03:32.35 | attuuu23 | The_Schmidt: it is a 32gb nexus |
| 03:32.45 | The_Schmidt | attuuu23: I have to run an ftp server on mine to transfer files between it and my desktop |
| 03:33.09 | The_Schmidt | attuuu23: I think the format of the drives is why it won't mount like a flash drive any more |
| 03:33.59 | The_Schmidt | attuuu23: you have a router? |
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| 03:54.16 | attuuu23 | The_Schmidt: it is fat32 , I have a router but no wireless |
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| 04:42.18 | i5um41ru | plese help, i can't run VTs by pressing Ctrl+F[1-6], it's only showing a blank blinked cursor, and i can't type anything |
| 04:42.39 | i5um41ru | i mean Ctrl+Alt+F[1-6] |
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| 04:44.23 | The_Schmidt | i5um41ru: you're not running in a vm are you? |
| 04:44.29 | ryouma | unless somebody can answer i am going to purge the poor flush package. answer or the package dies. |
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| 04:44.47 | The_Schmidt | ryouma: what are you trying to flush? |
| 04:44.52 | ryouma | aNsweR or thE package dieS. |
| 04:45.02 | ryouma | The_Schmidt: bittorrent client |
| 04:45.14 | The_Schmidt | ryouma: i'd suggest jiggling the handle but that isn't the same package |
| 04:45.27 | ryouma | lol good one |
| 04:45.31 | ryouma | flush (1) - GTK-based BitTorrent client |
| 04:45.38 | The_Schmidt | ryouma: man page for fflush is here: http://linux.die.net/man/3/fflush |
| 04:45.46 | The_Schmidt | ryouma: the output you got shows from that page |
| 04:45.59 | ryouma | wrong flush though |
| 04:46.01 | The_Schmidt | ryouma: the app you got is somethign else |
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| 04:46.24 | The_Schmidt | ryouma: perhaps it's got a link to the wrong package somewhere |
| 04:46.47 | ryouma | flush: /usr/bin/flush is in the package and i run that binary |
| 04:47.52 | The_Schmidt | i'll install it real quick to figure out where it hides |
| 04:47.59 | The_Schmidt | ahem .. lives |
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| 04:50.32 | The_Schmidt | ryouma: perhaps the other (c library) flush has a link taht this bt client gets interfered with |
| 04:51.03 | ryouma | suggestions for better bt clients are welcome. i ahve tried deluge (glitchy but ok), transmission (doesn't match my ui expectations), azureus (javamongous). |
| 04:51.15 | ryouma | huh, so i found a packaging bug in wheezy? odd if so. |
| 04:51.22 | The_Schmidt | ryouma: are you running on zsh or something weird like taht? |
| 04:51.26 | ryouma | bash |
| 04:51.31 | ryouma | vanilla wheezy |
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| 04:57.18 | The_Schmidt | ryouma: the more I search this topic the more i find it may be something else |
| 04:57.39 | The_Schmidt | ryouma: i am seeming to find that it is more of a dbus issue than what I thought before |
| 04:57.55 | ryouma | i don't even know what dbus really does |
| 04:58.57 | The_Schmidt | communication between apps ... whatever that means |
| 04:59.06 | The_Schmidt | http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/dbus/ |
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| 05:00.11 | The_Schmidt | ryouma: maybe your app is calling dbus and cannot start it correctly |
| 05:00.31 | ryouma | that is my guess |
| 05:01.51 | The_Schmidt | ryouma: does the app even start for you? |
| 05:01.54 | ryouma | no |
| 05:02.05 | The_Schmidt | ryouma: it starts right up for me, try to purge and reinstall |
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| 05:03.05 | ryouma | i just installed it, and purge nad reinstall had no effect |
| 05:04.35 | themill | ryouma: how do you log in? |
| 05:04.48 | ryouma | startx |
| 05:05.12 | themill | then you need to do all the things that the display manager would have done for you like start dbus |
| 05:05.55 | The_Schmidt | ryouma: what desktop u run? |
| 05:05.58 | themill | ,bug 699564 |
| 05:05.59 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/699564 in flush (closed): «[flush] Starting Flush failed:»; severity: grave; opened: 2013-02-01; last modified: 2013-06-02. |
| 05:06.38 | themill | (this is a general problem with not configuring your x session properly if you're using startx, this just happens to be the first time you've hit it with flush) |
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| 05:08.04 | i5um41ru | The_Schmidt: no, it's on my debian os |
| 05:08.09 | LiENUS | trying to use debconf-set-selections with the firebird2.5-superclassic and noninteractive frontend but its like its entirely ignoring it, is it a bug in the package? or does debconf-set-selections not do what i think it do |
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| 05:10.21 | themill | LiENUS: have you used debconf-get-selections to ensure you've got the right package names, question names and values? |
| 05:10.50 | LiENUS | themill, i dont have a debconf-get-selections on any of my systems |
| 05:10.54 | LiENUS | i have a debconf-show though |
| 05:10.58 | The_Schmidt | i5um41ru: sry, what? |
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| 05:13.35 | LiENUS | themill, http://pastebin.com/rr8gnhhT |
| 05:15.04 | sithfm | do i need to run an actual DE to get printer configuration app? |
| 05:15.31 | ryouma | The_Schmidt: previously i tried service dbus restart though |
| 05:15.38 | ryouma | themill: |
| 05:16.22 | ryouma | The_Schmidt: fluxbox. still trying to find something else that can autohide gkrellm and cycle windows with mouse wheel at top edge of screen. |
| 05:16.35 | themill | LiENUS: I don't think omitting the fourth parameter like that will work |
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| 05:16.58 | themill | ryouma: this is your personal dbus session not a system daemon. |
| 05:17.13 | ryouma | oh, ok |
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| 05:17.59 | LiENUS | themill, either way even the enabled option isnt working |
| 05:18.48 | ryouma | themill: so does this cargo cult from arch work? what else might i want to start? eval $(dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session) |
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| 05:21.10 | ryouma | ah, nice explanation in the bug report, thanks |
| 05:21.17 | LiENUS | tried adding a fourth param and still nope |
| 05:21.33 | ryouma | i'd have to change flux to make it work for me though as i get menus from flux, not clicks on the thingie |
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| 05:22.50 | Rusty1 | sithfm: can you open a browser or lynx ? |
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| 05:24.09 | sithfm | yeah |
| 05:24.23 | sithfm | i'm going to switch session to xfce, apparently it has a printer config applet |
| 05:24.38 | sithfm | and then check cinnamon which is already installed. I guess Mate just lacks one |
| 05:25.31 | Rusty1 | sithfm: in the browser put localhost:631 in the adress bar |
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| 05:26.42 | Rusty1 | administration at top, add printer button |
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| 05:28.45 | The_Schmidt | ryouma: nice features, am running xfce myself |
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| 05:29.12 | The_Schmidt | ryouma: do you start dbus with a login script? |
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| 05:33.41 | ryouma | The_Schmidt: the above seems to work. yes, i have a script that does exec startx \ -- ${1:-:0} \ >|xinitrc-output \ 2>&1 in a shell function and then another shell function in the same script is called by .xinitrc |
| 05:34.02 | ryouma | where \ is just bash eol |
| 05:34.19 | The_Schmidt | ah, so much I am learning today |
| 05:36.48 | ryouma | i just wish there were a way to get my two needed mousey features without having to use fluxbox |
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| 05:42.51 | The_Schmidt | ryouma: already using gpm? |
| 05:45.45 | cheapie | Over a gigabit ethernet connection, would HTTP or NFS be faster for lots of small files? The names and paths are already known. |
| 05:46.30 | The_Schmidt | cheapie: would be better to put them all into one archive for the transfer, then unzip when they get there |
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| 05:46.50 | cheapie | The_Schmidt: That's not an option here, unfortunately. |
| 05:46.56 | The_Schmidt | cheapie: single file stream travels faster than multiple files |
| 05:47.44 | The_Schmidt | I'm not very familiar with NFS |
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| 05:48.18 | cheapie | Meh, I'll just do HTTP. |
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| 05:48.56 | The_Schmidt | u just transferring some files over, or setting up a network backup? |
| 05:50.18 | cheapie | The_Schmidt: Jigdo, actually. I have (most of) a Debian archive mirror on one box, and I'm looking to construct some Blu-ray images on another one. |
| 05:50.19 | shay_shay | hi |
| 05:50.47 | The_Schmidt | eww bluray |
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| 05:52.14 | cheapie | The_Schmidt: If you're wondering, I have enough space for exactly one copy of the data on the destination box, and no room for a second on the source. That's why I can't just tarball it and sftp it over. |
| 05:52.58 | The_Schmidt | small HDD? |
| 05:53.07 | cheapie | I'm working with a mostly-full 500GB RAID 1 array on the source, and a 120GB SSD at the destination. |
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| 05:54.04 | cheapie | The SSD is, of course, not all available. |
| 05:54.29 | The_Schmidt | so it's your backup solution |
| 05:55.00 | cheapie | Not quite. |
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| 05:55.33 | The_Schmidt | shared coding box? |
| 05:55.45 | shay_shay | hay |
| 05:55.59 | The_Schmidt | hello |
| 05:56.05 | cheapie | No, just a general-purpose NAS plus something like 10 other server things on one box. |
| 05:56.11 | cheapie | (which is the source) |
| 05:56.40 | shay_shay | i hope you're using lxc |
| 05:56.45 | shay_shay | or bsd jails |
| 05:57.25 | cheapie | shay_shay: The server is exposed to my private network only. There's another NAT between it and my ISP. |
| 05:57.46 | cheapie | (and then another NAT between there and the Internet) |
| 05:59.07 | The_Schmidt | sends cheapie some new drives with more than one TB on them |
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| 05:59.24 | cheapie | I actually have a pair of 2TB drives on the way. |
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| 05:59.30 | The_Schmidt | o nice |
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| 06:00.40 | cheapie | As far as what I'll do with the old drives, I have no idea. Just like the 500GB and 160GB laptop drives on my desk. |
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| 06:01.26 | The_Schmidt | it's good to have a backup to store your piles of vids and books n stuff |
| 06:02.43 | The_Schmidt | books are less data hungry than vids, and yet .. so much information there |
| 06:03.09 | cheapie | Videos, meanwhile, tend to be of things such as pop-tart cats pooping rainbows. |
| 06:03.57 | The_Schmidt | I'd flood the channel with a stream of nyan nyan nyan nyan nyan nyan nyan but it'd be a bit too much on the spammy side |
| 06:04.00 | cheapie | peeks into one of the other channels he's in |
| 06:04.07 | cheapie | <Microchip> bash: ls: command not found. |
| 06:04.18 | cheapie | ^^ He did rm -rf / |
| 06:04.29 | The_Schmidt | ouch |
| 06:04.41 | cheapie | (in a VM, to see just how broken it would make it) |
| 06:05.16 | The_Schmidt | onoes |
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| 06:05.44 | The_Schmidt | in ubuntu and mint it warns you about that particular command being not very smart to use |
| 06:05.58 | cheapie | The_Schmidt: Now you're making me want to try it. |
| 06:06.06 | cheapie | (in a Mint VM) |
| 06:06.36 | The_Schmidt | has been running mint since ... whenever mint 7 was fresh out |
| 06:06.47 | The_Schmidt | 10 versions back i guess |
| 06:07.00 | cheapie | I used to use Mint, but I've settled on Debian now. |
| 06:07.19 | The_Schmidt | I tried LMDE for a while .. til i had graphics issues .. then i went back to the regular mint |
| 06:07.30 | cheapie | goes digging through his NAS |
| 06:07.39 | cheapie | Cool, I *do* have a copy of Mint in there. |
| 06:08.02 | cheapie | downloads and extracts it, then fires up VirtualBox |
| 06:08.34 | The_Schmidt | cheapie: what desktop did you go with? |
| 06:08.50 | The_Schmidt | on the mint? |
| 06:08.55 | cheapie | On Mint, MATE. |
| 06:09.06 | cheapie | On Debian, I used to use Fluxbox, but recently switched to KDE. |
| 06:09.38 | The_Schmidt | i remember using flux on some live systems way back |
| 06:09.55 | The_Schmidt | knoppix-std was the thing back then |
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| 06:10.30 | cheapie | I started using Linux with Ubuntu back in 2008. |
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| 06:14.46 | cheapie | The_Schmidt: Mint is now installing in a VM. |
| 06:14.53 | eio | any idea how to install the b43 wifi driver for a macbook pro 2009 ? |
| 06:15.07 | eio | apt-get install firmware-b43-installer doesn't work |
| 06:15.23 | The_Schmidt | eio so many times i have heard that question .. i'm sure somebody out there has answered it |
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| 06:18.07 | The_Schmidt | just did a dive on archive.org ... must have been summer of 2009 when i started using linux without a safety net XD |
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| 06:23.27 | The_Schmidt | brings back memories .. http://web.archive.org/web/20090626085315/http://www.linuxmint.com/ |
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| 06:31.35 | eio | E: Unable to locate package firmware-b43-installer |
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| 06:43.18 | jsonlee | in vim, how can i search a string started with a particular keyword. for instance, ^NodeTo.* |
| 06:43.56 | jsonlee | with shell script I can search by e.g. `cat file | grep ^NodeTo` |
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| 06:44.21 | jsonlee | but in vim, with /^NodeTo |
| 06:44.33 | jsonlee | it complains something like pattern not found. |
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| 07:27.09 | triogenes | hey guys - i tried to install a .deb i didn't mean to. now apt-get wants to install a new libc and wants me to do an apt-get -f install |
| 07:27.20 | triogenes | how can i get it to stop trying to do that? |
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| 07:35.00 | triogenes | anything but libc. |
| 07:36.38 | pipl | what is that .deb |
| 07:36.51 | triogenes | libnss3_3.17.2-1.1_amd64.deb |
| 07:36.58 | triogenes | it was from jessie (i'm running on wheezy) |
| 07:37.22 | triogenes | just wanted to see if it needed a newer version.. did so by trying dpkg -i. i didn't know it would mess with stuff if it didn't have the dependencies |
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| 07:41.17 | pipl | i think you should install back the stable version. |
| 07:41.37 | pipl | triogenes: because its not on wheezy-backports yet. |
| 07:42.04 | triogenes | pipl: well when i did dpkg -i i thought it failed to install it since it didn't have the newer libc |
| 07:42.28 | triogenes | i wasn't aware it changed anything, but now anything apt tells me libnss3 has unmet dependecies on libc6 |
| 07:42.51 | triogenes | is there a way to tell it i don't want that libnss3 anymore? |
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| 07:44.24 | pipl | triogenes: get a wheezy .deb of libnss3 ready, then dpkg -r the new libnss3 and dpkg -i the wheezy one. |
| 07:45.33 | pipl | triogenes: beware of any warnings |
| 07:47.24 | triogenes | pipl: :o - so it wouldn't let me remove the old one since it had other deps, but just dpkg -i on the wheezy libnss3 must have cleared it out |
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| 07:50.14 | jsonlee | casastorta: \<NodeTo achives the effect I am looking for. Thanks!!! |
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| 07:54.15 | pipl | triogenes: you can also 'dpkg -i --force-downgrade wheezy-package.deb'. that will downgrade your jessie version to stable one. |
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| 08:53.10 | anikras | hello |
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| 08:53.14 | anikras | i have this problem |
| 08:53.16 | anikras | <PROTECTED> |
| 08:53.20 | anikras | bash: ls: command not found |
| 08:53.27 | anikras | i use debian jessie |
| 08:54.05 | pipl | anikras: /usr/bin/ls |
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| 08:56.26 | anikras | is for my .bashrc |
| 08:56.31 | anikras | it;s working |
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| 09:15.36 | Bierdieb | Hello. Im trying to copy a debian dvd to usb-stick via dd. But howto get the correct path to the dvd rom, may someone give me a hint pls? |
| 09:16.59 | Bierdieb | already tried /media/cdrom as /dev/dvd but the path is not correct |
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| 09:19.10 | rozie | Bierdieb: your question is: what is my optical device? am I right? |
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| 09:20.08 | Bierdieb | yes, if want to |
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| 09:20.53 | rozie | eject the disc, then put it into dvd, close tray |
| 09:20.58 | rozie | take a look on dmesg |
| 09:21.13 | rozie | it's probably /dev/cdrom or /dev/dvd |
| 09:21.22 | rozie | which should be symlink to /dev/sr0 |
| 09:21.31 | Bierdieb | yes. |
| 09:21.34 | Bierdieb | thats it |
| 09:21.52 | Bierdieb | but dd doesnt accept one of that paths |
| 09:22.16 | Bierdieb | must the dvd be unmounted to work then? |
| 09:22.31 | rozie | dd if=/dev/cdrom of=just_an_image.img |
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| 09:23.02 | Bierdieb | so it wont work as a straight copy to the usb drive then? |
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| 09:23.22 | rozie | it will. but check this way |
| 09:23.59 | bazhang | to a usb stick? why use dd at all |
| 09:24.01 | Bierdieb | i need to do bypass the writing to hdd because of no diskspace |
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| 09:24.15 | rozie | and provide full data of command and results |
| 09:24.16 | bazhang | debain are hybrid so why bother |
| 09:24.54 | bazhang | you could even 'cat' it to the usb stick |
| 09:24.55 | rozie | bazhang: somehow he needs to put image on usb stick |
| 09:25.08 | rozie | how's cat better than dd? |
| 09:25.09 | bazhang | and it's a hybrid |
| 09:25.24 | Bierdieb | oot@Dellbian2:/# dd if=/dev/sr0/ of=/dev/sdb dd: failed to open /dev/sr0/: Not a directory |
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| 09:25.43 | rozie | /dev/sr0 not /dev/sr0/ |
| 09:25.45 | bazhang | why is the dvd drive coming into play here |
| 09:26.00 | Bierdieb | dd if=/media/cdrom0 of=/dev/sdb |
| 09:26.00 | Bierdieb | dd: error reading /media/cdrom0: Is a directory |
| 09:26.19 | rozie | Bierdieb: don't mix media with dev |
| 09:26.21 | Bierdieb | i have no diskspace available to save an image |
| 09:26.29 | bazhang | you have the iso on your hdd? |
| 09:26.30 | rozie | I wrote what's wrong |
| 09:26.38 | Bierdieb | i tried several ways |
| 09:26.47 | rozie | try the one I wrote |
| 09:26.49 | Bierdieb | no, i only have a cdrom |
| 09:27.10 | digdilem_ | is the usb stick /dev/sdb ? that seems unlikely - beware using of to a hdd |
| 09:27.14 | bazhang | no hdd at all? |
| 09:27.56 | rozie | digdilem_: why? if only one hdd, it'll be sda... |
| 09:28.10 | rozie | so usb stick can be sdb in that case |
| 09:28.23 | rozie | (double check, anyway) |
| 09:28.24 | Bierdieb | no diskspace availabe^^ on sda. y usb is definitively sdb |
| 09:28.32 | digdilem_ | rozie, maybe - i just don't see mention of the usb's device before now and as you know, of= to any existing filesystem nukes it. advocating a check |
| 09:28.52 | digdilem_ | ok Bierdieb, just checking. :) |
| 09:29.08 | Bierdieb | y im aware of devastating the system drive^^ thx |
| 09:29.16 | bazhang | phew |
| 09:29.37 | digdilem_ | yah. it's a mistake i've made before. |
| 09:30.07 | bazhang | there should be klaxon horns feature on that one |
| 09:30.21 | Bierdieb | is there no command grep something to show the path to the dvdrom on /dev/ level? |
| 09:30.49 | digdilem | Bierdieb, try "mount" |
| 09:31.15 | valdyn | Bierdieb: the way this is done is that the system creates /dev/cdrom automagically, so theres your path |
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| 09:31.45 | Bierdieb | there is /dev/cdrom, but its not accepted by dd |
| 09:32.23 | Bierdieb | there is also /dev/dvd which does not work either |
| 09:32.23 | valdyn | Bierdieb: of course its accepted |
| 09:32.32 | valdyn | Bierdieb: thats of course fine too |
| 09:33.04 | valdyn | Bierdieb: to diagnose your error, run the commands, paste the commands and the output |
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| 09:34.26 | Bierdieb | damn. ive unmounted all drives except sda and started over. it seems to work now.... |
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| 09:35.12 | Bierdieb | dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/dev/sdb does the job now.... |
| 09:35.29 | Bierdieb | thx |
| 09:35.33 | valdyn | Bierdieb: yep |
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| 10:33.42 | aeg | hi trying to do a net install using a USB stick, Normal install worked but RAID1 failed, and now partman goes nuts on the existing partition table.... with what tool can i clear the partition table ? |
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| 10:36.57 | Sadale | testing: http://google.com |
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| 10:44.52 | Walex | aeg: a bit confusing as a question... But partition tables tend to be at the beginning of the disk, so something like 'dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sd...' and letting it run for a few seconds usually works |
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| 10:45.23 | Walex | aeg: then also something like 'blockdev --rereadpt /dev/sd...' |
| 10:47.05 | aeg | Walex thanks, did the dd thing with bs=512 count=1 but i'm not sure if that also will whipe the GUID, go to test that now |
| 10:48.41 | aeg | Walex: Hmm it didn't partman still sees the GUID GTP |
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| 10:52.08 | aeg | <PROTECTED> |
| 10:53.10 | aeg | nice that did the trick, |
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| 10:58.57 | egonw | what's up with packages.debian.org vs the archives? I'm looking at youtube-dl and packages.debian.org reports a different version (2014.12.01-1) than the FTP archive (2015.01.16-1)... those should normally be in sync, not? |
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| 11:05.23 | nea1 | can someone explain this? https://paste.geekify.de/pbx6s5nox/np1y4e o_O |
| 11:05.50 | nea1 | getting a Cannot find device "br213" which ifquery showes me o_O |
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| 11:14.40 | aeg | nea1: what is the question ? |
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| 11:16.01 | nea1 | aeg why ifquery can find the interface but why ifup can't |
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| 11:17.26 | aeg | nea1: what does ifconfig say and then what does it show up in ifconfig -a ? |
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| 11:19.31 | Walex | nea1: 'if*' commands are high level commands, they deal in device *descriptions*, not *devices* |
| 11:21.07 | nea1 | aeg: nope doesn't show up |
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| 11:21.47 | nea1 | Walex: I don't understand what exactly you are trying to say? - what should i use / do then? |
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| 11:22.31 | aeg | nea1: is br213 a virtual thing or is it real hw ? |
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| 11:24.52 | nea1 | br213 is on the vlan eth1.213 (which is real) |
| 11:25.06 | nea1 | and br165 on eth1.165 comes up without problems |
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| 11:26.28 | n0xious | nea1: How many interfaces do you have in /etc/network/interfaces ? |
| 11:27.41 | SynrGy | and/or /etc/network/interfaces.d/ |
| 11:28.06 | nea1 | 4 lo, eth0->br0, eth1.165->br165, eht1.213->br213 |
| 11:28.47 | nea1 | *eth1.213 |
| 11:30.15 | nea1 | n0xious, SynrGy https://paste.geekify.de/pt9ga74cm/xs8vp7 |
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| 11:33.51 | SynrGy | you have multiple auto lines. is that even valid? |
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| 11:34.14 | SynrGy | hm. interfaces man page says yes |
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| 11:34.52 | SynrGy | don't know. this looks fine to me |
| 11:34.58 | SynrGy | any clues in dmesg? |
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| 11:36.54 | Lope | I'm trying to view a website that demands Arial, and my debian box doesn't have Arial, just for the fun of it I want to pretend I have Arial font without actually having it. So I went to /usr/share/fonts/truetype/ttf-dejavu and I duplicated an existing font. cp DejaVuSans.ttf Arial.ttf and also Arial-Bold.ttf. However the font is not found by the browser. I even rebooted. Any ideas? |
| 11:37.00 | Lope | I tried running mkfontdir and also tried running fc-cache (without reboot, just restarted browser, but nothing changed)? |
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| 11:37.59 | qjqqyy | Lope: the actual font name is inside the ttf file find something that can change it i can't name any suitable software though |
| 11:38.39 | Lope | qjqqyy: I suspected that might be possible. I did open the font in nano but didn't find any ASCII encoded name and didn't pursue further. |
| 11:38.42 | Lope | Thanks |
| 11:38.45 | qjqqyy | also it's gonna look worse since hinting rules and stuff won't be applied to fake arial |
| 11:39.30 | nea1 | SynrGy: nope br165 and so show up in dmesg but not br213 |
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| 11:40.11 | Lope | Do you think it's better to use a windows font package? |
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| 11:41.12 | SynrGy | nea1: probably a stupid question (since the other interface works). do you have bridge-utils installed? |
| 11:41.22 | qjqqyy | easier than adding unpackaged files in your system |
| 11:41.53 | nea1 | SynrGy: yep, otherwise i couldn't access the server ^^ |
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| 11:42.48 | SynrGy | nea1: if you comment out the pre-up and pre-down, can you ifup? (can you even do that without destroying the network?) |
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| 11:43.04 | SynrGy | nea1: it might tell us that one of the hooks is causing the issue |
| 11:43.18 | SynrGy | er, the two pre-ups i mean |
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| 11:43.31 | SynrGy | oh, wait. looking at wrong line |
| 11:43.37 | SynrGy | the pre-up and the post-down ;) |
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| 11:43.52 | SynrGy | lines 22 and 23 in your paste |
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| 11:44.35 | nea1 | SynrGy: ... o_O |
| 11:44.41 | nea1 | yep that fixed |
| 11:44.46 | nea1 | +it |
| 11:44.56 | SynrGy | nea1: question. how can you route add when you haven't even brought up the interface? |
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| 11:45.16 | SynrGy | pre-up is by definition 'pre' bringing up br213. so how can you add a route for it? |
| 11:46.19 | SynrGy | nea1: did you perhaps just mean 'up'? and similarly for the post-down |
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| 11:46.28 | nea1 | yea, that could be the point |
| 11:46.31 | SynrGy | maybe 'down' for the same reason? |
| 11:46.49 | nea1 | but the question now is why can't i now do a ifdown o_O |
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| 11:47.04 | SynrGy | nea1: even after both lines commented out? |
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| 11:47.24 | nea1 | yep |
| 11:47.36 | nea1 | ifdown: interface br213 not configured |
| 11:47.53 | SynrGy | this sounds like it doesn't even know the stanza ... |
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| 11:48.15 | nea1 | stanza? |
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| 11:48.20 | SynrGy | might happen with a misconfigured stanza (syntactically incorrect) |
| 11:48.41 | SynrGy | the lines that start 'iface' and are indented underneath are collectively known as a 'stanza' (as in poetry) |
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| 11:48.56 | SynrGy | and together configure one thing (the device you named) |
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| 11:49.31 | SynrGy | it's a word often used to refer to a collection of lines referring to one thing in a config file. |
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| 11:49.54 | nea1 | oke ^^ |
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| 11:50.11 | SynrGy | nea1: try just fixing the hooks to use 'up' and 'down' |
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| 11:50.23 | nea1 | but what is strange is that my other server is running ... and the config is the same (except for the ip) |
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| 11:50.54 | SynrGy | don't know. |
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| 11:51.10 | SynrGy | the thing would be to make any errors from the pre-up and post-down hooks visible |
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| 11:51.53 | SynrGy | nea1: maybe 'ifup -v br213' |
| 11:51.59 | SynrGy | or ifdown |
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| 11:52.28 | SynrGy | i've never debugged hooks before, so just a gues |
| 11:52.29 | SynrGy | guess* |
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| 11:56.48 | nea1 | SynrGy: on node1 everything fine - but had to change to post-up and pre-down but that didn't make any extra trouble other than that it wasn't added |
| 11:57.03 | nea1 | but on node2 i still can't take the interface down |
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| 12:08.04 | Bierdieb | o/ Hello. Ive copied a debian dvd to an usb stick. it boots, but after selecting the language the installer tries to get data from the dvd drive instead of the usb stick. is there a way to change that? |
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| 12:09.59 | n0xious | Bierdieb: Why not just dd the image to the usbstick? |
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| 12:11.26 | Bierdieb | i could not download the image to hdd because of no capacity. cant touch it though |
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| 12:12.27 | SynrGy | nea1: did -v improve verbosity? could you see the hook commands as they executed? |
| 12:12.39 | Bierdieb | would be good to know for other situations too.... |
| 12:12.40 | SynrGy | nea1: if not, you'll need to see where that information is logged. maybe syslog |
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| 12:14.22 | dokma | Is there a way to generate an empty package for Debian for C source code? |
| 12:14.31 | n0xious | Bierdieb: I'm not sure that you just copy the files manually. What about doing a netinstall? |
| 12:16.16 | nea1 | SynrGy: yep on node1 i did but on node2 -v didn't give any extra details only the "ifdown: interface br213 not configured" |
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| 12:18.10 | SynrGy | nea1: if it hasn't been brought up by /etc/network/interfaces it can't be brought down by it |
| 12:18.23 | SynrGy | so you need to use the low-level commands ('ip', 'brctl', etc.) to take it down |
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| 12:18.39 | SynrGy | since your ifup failed, this is unsurprising |
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| 12:22.04 | nea1 | SynrGy: but ifup worked after i commented the pre-up/down lines out |
| 12:22.33 | SynrGy | ah, so it did |
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| 12:22.54 | SynrGy | it's just, 'not configured' is what i think it says when it doesn't even know the interface |
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| 12:23.43 | Melissa_ | Is it possible to install a program if the system doesn't have an Internet connection? |
| 12:23.54 | valdyn | !apt-zip |
| 12:23.58 | dpkg | Update a non-networked computer using apt and removable media. Just aptitude install apt-zip and read the docs in /usr/share/doc/apt-zip, or ask me about <apt offline> <apt-walkabout>. http://wiki.debian.org/AptZip |
| 12:24.06 | valdyn | Melissa_: ^^ |
| 12:24.17 | Melissa_ | Thanks let me look into it |
| 12:24.19 | SynrGy | nea1: interfaces man page says of pre-up "If this command fails then ifup aborts, refraining from marking the interface as configured, prints an error message, and exits with status 0. |
| 12:24.43 | SynrGy | nea1: and ifdown can't take down any interface marked as 'not configured' |
| 12:25.19 | SynrGy | so in spite of our success, i think something's still screwed with the current state of that interface |
| 12:25.38 | SynrGy | and manually taking down the interface should solve that |
| 12:26.25 | nea1 | ok... |
| 12:26.29 | nea1 | i'll try |
| 12:27.51 | nea1 | lol ethen though ifup worked it was still not really up ^^ |
| 12:28.03 | nea1 | now everything seams fine - thanks SynrGy |
| 12:28.05 | nea1 | :) |
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| 12:28.46 | SynrGy | yay |
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| 12:33.12 | wsky | what's the name off the debian text installer package? |
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| 12:37.07 | Klaus_Dieter | hello world |
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| 12:37.50 | SynrGy | wsky: what are you trying to accomplish? |
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| 12:38.49 | SynrGy | wsky: debian-installer is modular and is comprised of many packages. building an installer image is one thing, and reporting a bug on the installer another. |
| 12:39.07 | wsky | well i want to run the text installer from a live image |
| 12:39.21 | SynrGy | it includes the installer? |
| 12:39.25 | wsky | no |
| 12:39.38 | SynrGy | a live image must be built with the installer included. |
| 12:39.45 | wsky | i see |
| 12:39.50 | Klaus_Dieter | I am trying to isntall tincd from wheezy-backports. after adding deb http://ftp.de.debian.org/debian wheezy-backports main to my sources.list and running apt-get update I still cannot install tinc 1.0.24 -apt believes 1.0.19 to be the most current version. what can I do to fix this? |
| 12:40.01 | SynrGy | all the official debian live images have the installer included |
| 12:40.13 | wsky | that does not help me |
| 12:40.22 | Klaus_Dieter | according to http://backports.debian.org/changes/wheezy-backports.html 1.0.24 is in wheezy-backports |
| 12:40.22 | SynrGy | which live image do you have? something self-built? |
| 12:40.27 | wsky | but i guess i'm set straight |
| 12:40.32 | wsky | SynrGy: ubuntu |
| 12:40.33 | SynrGy | and if self-built, did you use live-build for it? |
| 12:40.39 | SynrGy | ... |
| 12:41.01 | SynrGy | wsky: so you want to use an ubuntu live image to run a debian install? |
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| 12:41.20 | wsky | i'm trying to figure out can i run the text installer using a ubuntu live image |
| 12:41.30 | wsky | and i guess i can't |
| 12:41.33 | SynrGy | to install debian? |
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| 12:41.45 | wsky | to install ubuntu |
| 12:41.53 | wsky | yes, i know that this is a debian channel |
| 12:41.54 | SynrGy | and you're asking *here* because ... why? |
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| 12:42.19 | wsky | because the ubuntu channel is clueless so they barely know what their distro is called |
| 12:42.26 | SynrGy | ok. please don't abuse our giving you the benefit of the doubt |
| 12:42.28 | pipl | :-) |
| 12:42.35 | SynrGy | !based on debian |
| 12:42.36 | dpkg | Your distribution may be based on and have software in common with Debian, but it is not Debian. We don't and cannot know what changes were made by your distribution (compare http://futurist.se/gldt/). #debian only supports Debian and pure <blend>s; please respect our choice to volunteer here to help Debian users. Support for other distributions is off-topic on #debian, even if your own distro's channel is clueless or non-existent. |
| 12:42.37 | dutchfish | Klaus_Dieter, normally something like aptitude -t wheezy-backports install [foo] , where [foo] is your package form backports |
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| 12:43.05 | SynrGy | wsky: we're sorry they're clueless. if you use debian, however, you get to deal with us instead. :) |
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| 12:43.45 | pipl | SynrGy: could you tell me where to get those "!commands" ? |
| 12:44.15 | SynrGy | pipl: first of all, message the bot. use "!<command>" only when helping someone else. and secondly: |
| 12:44.19 | SynrGy | !tell pipl about dpkgbot |
| 12:44.24 | SynrGy | pipl: read what dpkg bot sent you |
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| 12:44.43 | Klaus_Dieter | dutchfish: argh reading the wfull documentation on http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ helps a lot. thank you dutchfish for also giving the solution |
| 12:44.43 | ompaul | wsky: you still asking ubuntu questions like if I didn't know better I'll say you were doing an impression of a troll on a roll ;-P |
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| 12:44.55 | dutchfish | Klaus_Dieter, yw |
| 12:44.59 | ompaul | wsky: gather your data scrub the disk and install debian |
| 12:45.06 | SynrGy | ompaul++ |
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| 12:46.10 | ompaul | wsky: then it won't be such a trial and tribulation - at this point you should see that it works for most people and works well at that |
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| 12:46.54 | ompaul | wsky: if it is a laptop install lshw and put the contents of that file on something smart like a blog page before you go cleaning the disk that and lspci and lsusb |
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| 12:48.56 | ompaul | wsky: either that or go to the ubuntu channel and deal with them |
| 12:49.24 | ompaul | but frankly it is not fair to debian users for you to take our attention from them |
| 12:49.45 | ompaul | wsky: so tell me how good is your download of debian stable right now? |
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| 12:51.01 | EbonyDarkness | hey gays |
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| 12:51.24 | EbonyDarkness | STFU |
| 12:51.31 | EbonyDarkness | woops i ment to say hi |
| 12:52.05 | ompaul | you failed as a human being |
| 12:52.12 | EbonyDarkness | WAT |
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| 12:52.19 | EbonyDarkness | y do u say dat i didnt meen 2 be rude |
| 12:52.38 | ompaul | !ops one troll for the ejecting EbonyDarkness |
| 12:52.38 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: ompaul complains about: one troll for the ejecting EbonyDarkness |
| 12:52.43 | EbonyDarkness | OMFS NO |
| 12:52.50 | EbonyDarkness | im not a troll i hardly did anything |
| 12:53.01 | EbonyDarkness | i just need sum help with mi ipod |
| 12:53.12 | ompaul | and /ignore I go |
| 12:53.16 | ompaul | number 6 |
| 12:53.24 | EbonyDarkness | STFU u fukkin queiph |
| 12:53.27 | Klaus_Dieter | ompaul++ |
| 12:53.33 | EbonyDarkness | i bet uve never even heard of mcr |
| 12:53.40 | EbonyDarkness | cutz rists and criez teerz of blod |
| 12:53.42 | ompaul | Klaus_Dieter: too much karma for one man :) |
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| 12:54.05 | ompaul | SynrGy: thanks |
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| 13:17.33 | Ad_R_ | hi I've just installed openssh-server in my debian server. It's really wird but when I connect to it from the same Lan the ssh connection is too slow (when I type in the terminal I can see that there is some lag). Any reaons of this ? The server is not doing anything so I think is not a bandwith problem |
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| 13:31.02 | aeg | On the older gnome desktop on the top right, i could select a overview of all windows, can't find that any more ... how do i get that back ? |
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| 13:32.07 | NiLon | is it just me or are the bazillion bots hammering against ssh auth nowdays |
| 13:32.55 | Ad_R_ | NiLon: you are rith |
| 13:32.57 | Ad_R_ | right |
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| 13:33.02 | NiLon | even non-public computers get hammered like crazy |
| 13:33.19 | aeg | it is all over the internet, i have maked a 3x fail will block source ip in iptables |
| 13:33.39 | aeg | its quite a list now |
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| 13:34.55 | Klaus_Dieter | aeg: I really should start doing that in my firewalls as well. sure only key-authentication is allowed and passwords are off but still... |
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| 13:35.18 | Klaus_Dieter | NiLon: aeg I cannot imagine that it is actually worthwile to run these bots |
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| 13:35.46 | abrotman | Use fail2ban or change your port. |
| 13:35.47 | NiLon | I have disabled root logins etc. just in case :p |
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| 13:36.45 | sshcontrol | you should try this :) http://sshcontrol.me/ |
| 13:36.57 | NiLon | maybe not |
| 13:37.27 | sshcontrol | maybe |
| 13:37.54 | abrotman | sshcontrol: Do you have a question about Debian? |
| 13:38.12 | NiLon | giving control of keys over to third party sounds like death wish |
| 13:38.36 | aeg | looks like sshcontrol is a bot |
| 13:38.36 | sshcontrol | abrotman: what should i use, aptitude or apt-get ? |
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| 13:38.42 | abrotman | sshcontrol: whichever you prefer |
| 13:38.44 | sshcontrol | not a bot :) |
| 13:38.56 | sshcontrol | but is any difference betweem them? |
| 13:38.57 | abrotman | sshcontrol: Please don't spam here, go play elsewhere |
| 13:39.10 | sshcontrol | ok abrotman but i'm not a bot |
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| 13:39.18 | abrotman | I doin't give a shit .. don't spam here, go somewhere else |
| 13:39.24 | sshcontrol | ok cya |
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| 13:40.01 | wfq | hi guys |
| 13:40.17 | wfq | is there anyone here who knows about shorewall firewall pelase? |
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| 13:43.03 | Zvpun | Is there an aptitude command to remove automatically installed packages (once their dependency is gone)? I could only find an apt-get command so far, but no aptitude command. Is there one for aptitude as well? |
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| 13:52.18 | Walex | Zvpun: yes. |
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| 13:53.32 | Walex | Zvpun: actually more precisely no, in the terms you asked your question. |
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| 13:59.49 | Zvpun | Walex: are you saying "apt-get remove --auto-remove" is what I should use? And there is nothing for aptitude? |
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| 14:01.41 | Nik05 | Zvpun aptitude install should do the same |
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| 14:10.38 | abrotman | from tray 2? |
| 14:11.19 | doublehp | MPF |
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| 14:13.12 | MrTopless | Hey guys I'm trying to compile php 5.6.5 |
| 14:13.37 | MrTopless | And I get this error: http://paste.debian.net/143348/ With this config: http://paste.debian.net/143349 |
| 14:13.49 | MrTopless | I already got build-essential latest |
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| 14:15.21 | valdyn | !ssb |
| 14:15.21 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 14:15.26 | valdyn | MrTopless: ^^ |
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| 14:16.19 | MrTopless | valdyn, what src, where from? |
| 14:16.29 | MrTopless | What is this all about? |
| 14:16.37 | MrTopless | I google got no build-essential build then I have |
| 14:16.40 | MrTopless | apt-get says same |
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| 14:16.52 | valdyn | MrTopless: its about doing this properly, read what dpkg said |
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| 14:17.20 | MrTopless | so to check backport I just type in shell debian-backports? |
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| 14:17.36 | MrTopless | command not found |
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| 14:18.17 | valdyn | MrTopless: no, stuff in < > refers to dpkg having information if you for example type "/msg dpkg debian-backports" in your irc client |
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| 14:18.36 | valdyn | judd: versions php5 |
| 14:18.37 | judd | Package: php5 on i386 -- squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze17; squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze17; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze19; squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze19; squeeze-security-lts: 5.3.3-7+squeeze24; wheezy: 5.4.36-0+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 5.4.36-0+deb7u3; wheezy-proposed-updates: 5.4.36-0+deb7u3; sid: 5.6.4+dfsg-4; jessie: 5.6.4+dfsg-4; sid: 5.6.5+dfsg-1 |
| 14:18.43 | MrTopless | In http://backports.debian.org/wheezy-backports/overview/ Ctrl+F "essential" = negative |
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| 14:19.08 | valdyn | MrTopless: php5 is not there, you can proceed to step 1) of what dpkg said |
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| 14:19.47 | MrTopless | dpkg, deb-src php-5.6.5 |
| 14:19.47 | dpkg | You can get apt to download source packages with a <deb-src> line in your <sources.list>. A suitable entry for the php-5.6.5 release is: "deb-src http://http.debian.net/debian/ php-5.6.5 main contrib non-free". Remember to "apt-get update" after changing your sources.list. |
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| 14:20.32 | valdyn | MrTopless: thats bullshit |
| 14:20.45 | valdyn | dpkg: deb-src sid |
| 14:20.45 | dpkg | You can get apt to download source packages with a <deb-src> line in your <sources.list>. A suitable entry for the sid release is: "deb-src http://http.debian.net/debian/ sid main contrib non-free". Remember to "apt-get update" after changing your sources.list. |
| 14:20.57 | valdyn | MrTopless: thats correct ^^ |
| 14:21.49 | MrTopless | valdyn, so do now I have to paste in source.list "deb-src http://http.debian.net/debian/ sid main contrib non-free or deb-src http://http.debian.net/debian/ php-5.6.5 main contrib non-free? |
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| 14:22.13 | valdyn | MrTopless: the first of course, php-5.6.5 is not a debian release |
| 14:22.22 | hutab | format awl_display_key = $Q%K|$N%n $H$C$S |
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| 14:25.04 | abrotman | doubts php can be backported |
| 14:25.32 | abrotman | judd: checkbackport php |
| 14:25.33 | judd | No package named 'php' was found in sid/i386. |
| 14:25.37 | abrotman | judd: checkbackport php5 |
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| 14:25.56 | judd | Backporting package php5 in sidâwheezy/i386: unsatisfiable build dependencies: Build-Depends: apache2-dev (>= 2.4), dh-apache2, libgd-dev (>= 2.1.0) | libgd2-dev. |
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| 14:27.55 | abrotman | MrTopless: why do you need this new PHP? |
| 14:28.01 | MrTopless | Build command 'cd build-essential-11.7 && dpkg-buildpackage -b -uc' failed. |
| 14:28.01 | MrTopless | E: Child process failed |
| 14:28.13 | MrTopless | root@www:~# apt-get -b source build-essential |
| 14:28.40 | abrotman | MrTopless: why do you need this new PHP? |
| 14:28.51 | abrotman | MrTopless: what's wrong with the PHP in wheezy already? |
| 14:29.02 | MrTopless | abrotman, abrotman for testing purposes |
| 14:29.14 | MrTopless | contributing to community |
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| 14:31.24 | bigterd | how much trouble did i make for myself to issue a grow on mdadm without specifying a backup file? |
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| 14:32.03 | MrTopless | Reading package lists... Done |
| 14:32.03 | MrTopless | Building dependency tree |
| 14:32.03 | MrTopless | Reading state information... Done |
| 14:32.03 | MrTopless | Skipping already downloaded file 'build-essential_11.7.dsc' |
| 14:32.03 | MrTopless | Skipping already downloaded file 'build-essential_11.7.tar.gz' |
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| 14:32.38 | MrTopless | How can I proceed to second stage |
| 14:32.41 | MrTopless | there are no debs |
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| 14:39.21 | Busserl | Is there a guide for grub2 with efi/gpt boot with btrfs? I installed and moved my root to a btrfs subvolume, but I don't know how to move /boot as well. It is currently on the same root partition. I would like to either move /boot to the subvolume or to its own partition. |
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| 14:40.36 | Busserl | So currently when I execute update-grub, it modifies /boot in my subvolume, but at boot time, the /boot in root is used. I would like update-grub to use /subvol/boot |
| 14:40.44 | mtn | Busserl: you could try the archlinux wiki |
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| 14:42.42 | Busserl | mtn: I read it, my system boots fine, but I am not sure how to tell grub2 about the location of /subvol/boot when using EFI. |
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| 14:43.49 | Busserl | mtn: I already had an OK system using MBR before, but I am unsure about grub2 efi in combination with a btrfs subvolume. At the moment I have to manually copy the modified /subv/boot to /boot. |
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| 14:47.18 | MrTopless | valdyn I got the build make installed it |
| 14:47.24 | MrTopless | and still get same errors |
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| 14:49.45 | MrTopless | And I get this error: http://paste.debian.net/143348/ With this config: http://paste.debian.net/143349 |
| 14:49.58 | MrTopless | Hey guys I'm trying to compile php 5.6.5 |
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| 14:50.07 | MrTopless | And I get this error: http://paste.debian.net/143348/ With this config: http://paste.debian.net/143349 |
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| 14:52.13 | bazhang | ,v php5 |
| 14:52.14 | judd | Package: php5 on i386 -- squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze17; squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze17; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze19; squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze19; squeeze-security-lts: 5.3.3-7+squeeze24; wheezy: 5.4.36-0+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 5.4.36-0+deb7u3; wheezy-proposed-updates: 5.4.36-0+deb7u3; sid: 5.6.4+dfsg-4; jessie: 5.6.4+dfsg-4; sid: 5.6.5+dfsg-1 |
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| 14:53.37 | viruser | Hello, I have a problem. during the installation i didn't select my timezone, now that i want to fix the timezone, i symlinked /etc/timezone to the correct zone in /usr/share/zoneinfo but the clock still shows up as UTC |
| 14:53.44 | viruser | Do i have to do anything else? |
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| 14:56.10 | eric2 | dpkg-reconfigure tzdata |
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| 14:56.15 | abrotman | viruser: what's in /etc/default/rcS ? |
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| 14:58.39 | paragon | you could always run tzconfig, and it will do the work for you. There may be an additional hwclock command (hwclock --systohc --utc maybe?) |
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| 14:58.54 | abrotman | dpkg: tell viruser about set the time |
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| 15:00.36 | DelphiWorld | yo |
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| 15:00.46 | DelphiWorld | is there any way to disable screen saver? |
| 15:00.51 | DelphiWorld | using openbox & XFCE |
| 15:01.08 | MrTopless | bazhang, oh :-) |
| 15:01.22 | MrTopless | bazhang thanx. All the time in those riddles |
| 15:01.28 | somiaj | DelphiWorld: the screen saver or xorg console blanking? |
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| 15:01.44 | DelphiWorld | somiaj: lol blanking right :P |
| 15:01.46 | somiaj | DelphiWorld: the screen saver go to the configure tools. The default xorg console blanking 'xset -dpms s off' |
| 15:01.49 | MrTopless | what is dfsg-4 and dfsg-1? |
| 15:01.52 | DelphiWorld | somiaj: i use mpd to play audio and its going off |
| 15:02.00 | glogic | DelphiWorld: Have you tried $ xscreensaver-demo |
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| 15:02.03 | MrTopless | jessie: 5.6.4+dfsg-4; sid: 5.6.5+dfsg-1 |
| 15:02.04 | MadsRC | Is there any way to hook into what folders are created in /var/log at boot? I've made /var/log into a tmpfs, but now nginx won't start as /var/log/nginx isn't created at boot. Creating int in /etc/rc.local won't work |
| 15:02.19 | somiaj | MrTopless: different revisions of debian security patches. |
| 15:02.21 | DelphiWorld | glogic: somiaj is right, xorg blinking |
| 15:02.39 | MrTopless | somiaj what is difference between then? |
| 15:02.46 | MadsRC | somiaj: I have the following in my .xinitrc to stop screen blanking: xset s off |
| 15:02.46 | MadsRC | xset -dpms |
| 15:02.47 | MadsRC | xset s noblank |
| 15:02.48 | glogic | Oh yes, then xset is the proper command |
| 15:02.57 | glogic | man xset |
| 15:03.11 | somiaj | MrTopless: just different versions in the long run. just like version 5.3 of some software is different than 5.4, they have patches and changes added |
| 15:04.00 | DelphiWorld | MadsRC: pm it to me please |
| 15:04.01 | MrTopless | somiaj clear |
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| 15:04.03 | somiaj | MrTopless: debian just doesn't provided newer version in the frozen system. so it applies small security patches, so 5.6.4+dfsg-4 means that it is the version 5.6.4 from upstream plus some debian patches, |
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| 15:04.17 | somiaj | where the patches are usually small and usually address bugs/security issues |
| 15:04.18 | MrTopless | somiaj, how do I install this php5 5.6.5+dfsg-1 |
| 15:04.20 | MrTopless | ? |
| 15:04.23 | MadsRC | DelphiWorld: oh yah, sorry |
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| 15:04.39 | DelphiWorld | MadsRC: lol lot of traffic here will kill tts |
| 15:04.41 | somiaj | MrTopless: you don't install a sid version on jessie (since jessie is frozen you don't want to have mixed packages espically with the release comming up) |
| 15:05.03 | glogic | mixing releases is not recommende |
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| 15:05.27 | somiaj | DelphiWorld: I told ya the command 'xset -dpms s off', really 'xset s off' means turn off the screen blanking. the -dpms just means it won't use the power saving features of the monintor either. |
| 15:05.38 | MrTopless | so somiaj, do you suggest me to wait till full debian release on php 5.6.5 comes out? |
| 15:05.51 | somiaj | MrTopless: any reason 5.6.4+dfsg-4 won't suit your needs. |
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| 15:06.08 | MrTopless | somiaj no reason, how to install that this one? |
| 15:06.24 | MrTopless | somiaj, how to install php5 5.6.4+dfsg-4? |
| 15:06.34 | MrTopless | Because apt-get can't find this package |
| 15:06.36 | somiaj | MrTopless: jessie is frozen and going to stay with 5.6.4, and you should build your software around the versions that come with debian stable (well soon to be stable) unless you want to have to manage your own security |
| 15:06.43 | somiaj | MrTopless: what version of debian are you running right now? |
| 15:06.46 | somiaj | ,v php5 |
| 15:06.47 | judd | Package: php5 on i386 -- squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze17; squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze17; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze19; squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze19; squeeze-security-lts: 5.3.3-7+squeeze24; wheezy: 5.4.36-0+deb7u1; wheezy-security: 5.4.36-0+deb7u3; wheezy-proposed-updates: 5.4.36-0+deb7u3; sid: 5.6.4+dfsg-4; jessie: 5.6.4+dfsg-4; sid: 5.6.5+dfsg-1 |
| 15:07.01 | MrTopless | somiaj Debian 7.6 amd64 |
| 15:07.16 | DelphiWorld | somiaj + MadsRC = great bonus today. thank! |
| 15:07.18 | somiaj | MrTopless: then you want to use the version in wheezy. You do not want to install a version from jessie in wheezy. |
| 15:07.20 | abrotman | somiaj: he's trying to backport PHP5 |
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| 15:07.38 | somiaj | MrTopless: so as abrotman mentioned you will either want to backport your own package (and manage the security) because it hasn't been backported for you. |
| 15:08.30 | somiaj | MrTopless: personally I suggest sticking with the version in wheezy for now, and wait until jessie is released. Once you upgrade to jessie php will upgrade too. Unless you really want to compile your own php packages and manage them along with security. |
| 15:09.00 | MrTopless | somiaj got it, well I think i'll stay with wheezy then |
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| 15:09.15 | MrTopless | somiaj then other question how to remove all the compilations that I've made? :-D |
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| 15:09.33 | MrTopless | I want to start debian from scratch then |
| 15:09.34 | MrTopless | clean one |
| 15:10.06 | somiaj | MrTopless: depends on how they were installed. If you just ran 'make install' this can be as easy as running 'make uninstall' in the original source dir, or if that doesn't work as hard as tracking down all the stuff by hand and removing it |
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| 15:10.34 | MrTopless | somiaj no easy way like reinstall? |
| 15:10.38 | somiaj | MrTopless: in the future if you do lots of source installs, you may want to look into stow to help manage them. But in the end since they are not using debian packages you have to manage them yousrelf. The other alternative is learn how to complie debian packages. |
| 15:10.50 | somiaj | MrTopless: depends on the software, some software doesn't have good make unisntall scripts. |
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| 15:11.10 | MrTopless | somiaj Debian 7.6 amd 64 wheezy |
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| 15:11.27 | MrTopless | does it have reinstall |
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| 15:11.31 | MrTopless | or reset to 0 |
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| 15:11.46 | MrTopless | Its on openvz |
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| 15:12.49 | somiaj | MrTopless: I don't know. If you used debian pacages you can manage evertying in a nice clean way with dpkg/apt. If you use source installs, you need to manage those sepertally and by default there is no nice tool to do this. But as I mentioned in the future if you use stow that gives you a nice tool to manage source install software. |
| 15:12.54 | mtn | MrTopless: you need to read https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian |
| 15:13.17 | MrTopless | okay I'm just deleting and creating new container |
| 15:13.25 | MrTopless | It will be easier |
| 15:13.27 | somiaj | Also debian packages only work nicely if you don't mix versions, i.e. you dont' install random .deb and only install deb's made for the version of debian you are running. |
| 15:13.40 | MadsRC | Had a lot of fun with DEbian today (and yesterday) - Employer needs a new system for infoscreens around the company, so I got to do all kinds of fun stuff with Debian and a raspberry pi to make something that boots, and "just works" plus is rebranded with corporate logo's and stuff... Great fun :D |
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| 15:15.03 | somiaj | MadsRC: are you actually running debian on the raspberry pi, or running rasbian (which isn't debian -- only debian based). |
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| 15:15.50 | RoyK | somiaj: AFAIK debian doesn't run on rpi |
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| 15:16.50 | MadsRC | somiaj: Raspbian I'm sad to say :( - Still closer ot DEbian than most other things though :D |
| 15:17.04 | somiaj | RoyK: it does and there is an arm port, so you can run offical debian on the pi, but rasbian is more optimized and easier to get to work I belive. (: |
| 15:17.07 | bigterd | how much trouble did i make for myself to issue a grow on mdadm without specifying a backup file? |
| 15:18.01 | somiaj | MadsRC: just courious, was wondering if you were one of the few who were actually using the debian arm port ont he pi. (: |
| 15:18.23 | MadsRC | somiaj: I got Debian on a few of my private pi's :) |
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| 15:18.58 | somiaj | I have a pi laying around but haven't been motivated enough to do anything with it. I kinda want to put pure debian on it and not rasbian when I actually decided to play with the thing. |
| 15:19.25 | abrotman | bigterd: Did it break? |
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| 15:20.19 | MadsRC | somiaj: Raspbian is far easier to to it with... You need to clean up a few things though, such as the DE and all the unused apps... |
| 15:20.49 | somiaj | MadsRC: I don't use DE's and always build up from a minimial install, so that makes that part a bit easier. (: |
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| 15:22.54 | bigterd | abrotman: no, well, i was playing with bridge and ifconfig, and it locked up, dreadfully i restarted it with power button, it resumed, be nice to interrupt it and restart or continue with a biackup fuile, just don't know if it's possible. |
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| 15:23.10 | bigterd | abrotman: so i unmounted everything and just letting it continue... |
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| 15:24.06 | stt_michael | hey, can anyone suggest what I'm doing wrong in debian, getting wifi to work with wpa_supplicant and dhcp .. it authenticates fine, but won't dhcp |
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| 15:24.21 | stt_michael | ie. wifi security passes. but dhcp cannot get a lease. |
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| 15:25.02 | MadsRC | Is there a DHCP server on the network (or any network that the wifi can reach, this would need a DHCP proxy though) |
| 15:25.08 | MadsRC | for the "?" |
| 15:25.16 | MadsRC | s/for/forgot/g |
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| 15:30.59 | somiaj | stt_michael: maybe tell us the commands/order you are doing things in. Also any reason you don't just use the interfaces file for this and let it do all the details of running things? |
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| 15:32.09 | stt_michael | let me c/p my interfaces |
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| 15:32.22 | stt_michael | dhcp works via wifi for other clients |
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| 15:33.04 | stt_michael | # interfaces(5) file used by ifup(8) and ifdown(8) |
| 15:33.05 | stt_michael | auto lo |
| 15:33.07 | stt_michael | iface lo inet loopback |
| 15:33.08 | stt_michael | auto eth0 |
| 15:33.10 | stt_michael | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:33.11 | stt_michael | auto wlan0 |
| 15:33.13 | stt_michael | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:33.15 | stt_michael | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:33.24 | stt_michael | thought that should be enough |
| 15:33.42 | abrotman | allow-hotplug might be better than auto |
| 15:33.53 | stt_michael | wpa_cli status - replies 'Completed' but ifconfig -a shows UP but no IP |
| 15:33.58 | stt_michael | yeah I can try that |
| 15:34.02 | abrotman | can you run dhclient manually? |
| 15:34.09 | somiaj | stt_michael: looks fine. I personally put the essid and psk in my interfaces file as opposed ot managing another wpa_supplicat.conf file. |
| 15:34.09 | stt_michael | yes .. hold up Il'l pastebin |
| 15:34.28 | stt_michael | rather not put security info all over the shop :) |
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| 15:34.48 | somiaj | stt_michael: yea my interface file is 600 |
| 15:35.29 | somiaj | stt_michael: though Id on't think that matters, what ever you perfer. I like it cause I use alias, then I can do 'ifup wlan0=alias' for each network I use |
| 15:35.36 | jaggzt | I'm trying to reinstall cron (apt-get -f install --reinstall cron) but apt-get is complaining about nvidia packages and stuff (I installed nvidia's own .run file, to get my card supported)... |
| 15:35.57 | abrotman | jaggzt: fix the other problems, then reinstall cron |
| 15:36.05 | stt_michael | this was after an ifdown wlan0 - http://pastebin.com/tLk5xWfD |
| 15:36.05 | jaggzt | how can I tell apt-get just to do the cuda reinstall? |
| 15:36.05 | abrotman | "and stuff" |
| 15:36.31 | stt_michael | somiaj: interesting, bt I've found wpa_supplicant to manage my networks adequately :) |
| 15:36.32 | jaggzt | abrotman, hmm.. if they're not related (cron and nvidia) can I just get the cron thing working right away? |
| 15:36.38 | jaggzt | it's important |
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| 15:36.42 | stt_michael | brb need some lunch lol |
| 15:36.50 | jaggzt | then I can spend time fixing the nvidia stuff |
| 15:37.15 | MrTopless | What is the easiest way to learn everything about Debian? |
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| 15:37.32 | jaggzt | MrTopless, easiest or fastest? :) |
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| 15:37.46 | jaggzt | You will likely never ever know everything about debian |
| 15:37.47 | MrTopless | jaggzt, if you may introduce me to both options :-D |
| 15:38.04 | ledufakademy | hello |
| 15:38.20 | jaggzt | plus you need to define what you're actually asking |
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| 15:39.12 | somiaj | jaggzt: once you have broken packages apt just refuses to work and you need to fix things first. |
| 15:39.58 | somiaj | stt_michael: my wifi card sometimes has trouble assoicating. In another console right after you run 'ifup wlan0', run 'iwconfig wlan0' and see if it is correctly assoicated with the ip. |
| 15:40.02 | somiaj | stt_michael: ap I mean. |
| 15:40.18 | somiaj | MrTopless: have you read the debian user manual? |
| 15:40.35 | MrTopless | somiaj, I'm constantly looking at it :-) |
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| 15:40.44 | MrTopless | somiaj, but I learn nothing |
| 15:40.54 | MrTopless | somiaj, I always have to look at it. |
| 15:41.07 | somiaj | MrTopless: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian-reference/ -- beyond that there are nice guids scattered in various places on specific topics. There are some good article on the wiki and on debian adminstration. |
| 15:41.12 | MrTopless | smoiaj, it is time consuming, because there is a lot of information and you have to search and browse it. |
| 15:41.23 | sydney | Ok, so i just logged out of my account on jessie and now i cannot get back in. Lightdm. I tried running startx in a tty but that didn't work either. |
| 15:41.33 | sydney | Can i have some help? |
| 15:42.00 | somiaj | MrTopless: that is a good resource for an overview, other stuff I just pick up as I need to figure out something. There is just lots out there, and depending on what you are wanting to read about some places have nicer explianations than others. |
| 15:42.09 | sydney | all other user accounts work. |
| 15:42.22 | somiaj | sydney: find the error that is preventing you from logging in |
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| 15:42.39 | somiaj | sydney: after you run startx as that user, look in the logs to see what is going wrong with that user. |
| 15:42.46 | n0xious | sydney: Try: su the_username |
| 15:42.59 | sydney | somiaj: Where are the logs? |
| 15:43.15 | MrTopless | Basically I just want to know what I'm doing and understand most of the commands. Mostly --help does not clear up things. Sometimes I have spend more then 5 hours to understand what I have just done by following the tutorial. |
| 15:43.34 | MrTopless | Some people just tell it by surface. I bet they copied it from someone else. |
| 15:43.52 | sydney | I can log in from a tty just fine, but i prefer GUI :P |
| 15:44.07 | MrTopless | But I want to change logics, mindset. I want to create those command lines write my scripts. Not just copy paste from some pages. |
| 15:44.08 | somiaj | sydney: so startx works as your user? |
| 15:44.13 | sydney | No. |
| 15:44.17 | sydney | It doesn't. |
| 15:44.27 | n0xious | sydney: /var/log/auth.log |
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| 15:44.41 | somiaj | sydney: so log in as that use, run startx, start looking at logs. /var/log/Xorg.0.log is a good place to start, also look at dmesg, /var/log/messages and other thigns in there. |
| 15:45.14 | somiaj | sydney: oh wait, if your display manager is running startx will fail. Stop your display manager before you run start. |
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| 15:45.32 | somiaj | sydney: startx. i.e. identify if it is a problem xorg, or a problem with something in your user session causing the dm to choke |
| 15:45.36 | rgr | if his dm was running why would he issue a startx (or xinit) |
| 15:45.56 | somiaj | rgr: he is not able to login as that user into xorg, so trying to debug what the cause is |
| 15:46.05 | somiaj | rgr: so his display manager sin't letting him log in |
| 15:46.50 | n0xious | sydney: Does lightdm give you an error? |
| 15:47.06 | rgr | you dont log into "xorg". You just run it all via xinit. If he's logged in a terminal as his user he is "logged in". |
| 15:47.12 | sydney | --No. It goes black for a sec then returns to the login screen. |
| 15:47.44 | n0xious | sydney: Check your scripts like .xinitrc .xsession and such |
| 15:47.44 | sydney | I had an issue like this a while back. I ended up whiping /home. O_O |
| 15:48.01 | rgr | you should never have to wipe home. |
| 15:48.19 | sydney | It was a xfce config file last time. |
| 15:48.22 | rgr | switch to a different tty and log in from the text only prompt. |
| 15:48.23 | somiaj | rgr: correct, which is why my sugestion was take the display manager out of the picture and see if he can figure out what in his profile is causing xorg to crash. |
| 15:48.28 | sydney | Not this time though. |
| 15:48.28 | rgr | sure |
| 15:48.28 | n0xious | sydney: Most likely not a problem with lightdm. |
| 15:49.03 | axel_fly | who i have to connect cause of gnome-software? i would help making it ready for jessie! |
| 15:49.20 | Lope | How can I rename a TTF font in linux (by commandline)? I think the name is embedded in the file? |
| 15:49.23 | rgr | when youve logged in to a text only tty then use xinit and debug your .xinitrc |
| 15:49.44 | rgr | (personally I boot to a text only login and then start x myself using xinit later) |
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| 15:50.52 | sydney | Ok, i am confused. |
| 15:51.09 | sydney | Whats next. No errors as far as i can see from xorg.0.log |
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| 15:51.22 | jaggzt | somiaj, grr.. I should be able to say to apt-get, "do it. I know more than you." even though I don't |
| 15:51.22 | itstallchris | anyone using gcalcli? I have a few questions |
| 15:51.57 | n0xious | sydney: Do you have a .xinitrc or .xsession file in your home folder? |
| 15:52.02 | jaggzt | I destroyed all my perms with chown -R jaggz ../../ when I was accidentally in the wrong dir .. got my whole system |
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| 15:52.11 | sydney | where is .xinitrc and .xsession? |
| 15:52.16 | jaggzt | people say it's best to reinstall everything.. but I'm really hesitant to do that... sigh |
| 15:52.16 | sydney | Oh |
| 15:52.19 | sydney | I will look. |
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| 15:53.28 | sydney | n0xious: No. |
| 15:53.57 | sydney | I have .xsession-errors |
| 15:54.05 | sydney | Its 46 MB O_O |
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| 15:55.51 | n0xious | sydney: I dont know if lightdm/xfce output errors to that file, but take a look in it anyway. My own .xsession-errors is 2kb. |
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| 15:56.54 | n0xious | sydney: Well after looking in my xsession-error, I'm pretty sure you can find the error there. |
| 15:56.57 | abrotman | jaggzt: you don't have to do that .. just fix it |
| 15:57.39 | rgr | jaggzt: what "people" say its best to reinstall? Rubbish in most cases. |
| 15:58.06 | jaggzt | yeah.. I got all my packages and dpkg-deb -c'ed them and set the perms |
| 15:58.22 | jaggzt | but it doesn't get everything right |
| 15:58.29 | rgr | and set the perms? What? |
| 15:58.29 | sydney | Hum... |
| 15:58.34 | sydney | I don't know. |
| 15:58.54 | stt_michael | somiaj: http://pastebin.com/rE1bUNk6 - iwconfig doesn't report anything sensible .. unsurprisingly :) |
| 15:59.12 | rgr | sydney: do what I said above. But *first* do some homework and familiairise with .xinitrc and its famils. Otherwise you're just pissing in the wind. |
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| 16:00.37 | sydney | Well, i did what i did last time... cleared my /home directory but not my normal files. |
| 16:00.41 | sydney | And now it works. |
| 16:00.53 | sydney | Im goign to restore them now and see where the issue lays. |
| 16:00.53 | jaggzt | when I run crontab -e, when saving/exiting I get: "/var/spool/cron/: mkstemp: Permission denied" |
| 16:02.13 | sydney | Shoot, i cannot. well, oh well. |
| 16:02.18 | sydney | It works now. |
| 16:02.25 | sydney | Thank you for your time everyone!!! |
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| 16:05.30 | jaggzt | it's kinda weird.. /usr/bin/crontab doesn't have an suid bit .. dpkg-deb -c doesn't show it should (nor anything else in cron's deb).. |
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| 16:06.07 | stt_michael | \/usr/bin/crontab??! |
| 16:06.38 | nkuttler | jaggzt: just reinstall. much quicker than fixing everything |
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| 16:07.12 | jaggzt | but it tries to write to a file crontabs/tmp.something .. which seems to be after a chdir("/var/spoo/cron") (but there are tons of other lines in the strace -f output) |
| 16:07.33 | jaggzt | why can't I reinstall individual packages instead of the whole debian system? |
| 16:07.42 | nkuttler | jaggzt: sure, you can try that.. |
| 16:07.53 | nkuttler | jaggzt: apt-get install --reinstall.. |
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| 16:10.30 | jaggzt | okay.. need to get my dependency issues fixed then.. darn nvidia .run thing.. |
| 16:10.53 | jaggzt | I wonder if my 970 is supported by the non-free nvidia drivers now |
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| 16:14.56 | nkuttler | !nvidia |
| 16:14.56 | dpkg | Where possible, Nvidia graphic processing units are supported using the open source <nouveau> driver on Debian systems by default. To install the proprietary "nvidia" driver, see http://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers or ask me about <nvidia dkms>, <nvidia legacy>; installing this directly from nvidia.com (i.e. with <nvidia-installer>) is _not_ supported in #debian, please go to #nvidia on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 16:17.05 | jaggzt | how do I see what nouveau supports in wheezy, and in jessie? |
| 16:17.14 | jaggzt | https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/xserver-xorg-video-nouveau ? |
| 16:17.25 | abrotman | read the man page |
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| 16:17.34 | jaggzt | thanks |
| 16:17.50 | jaggzt | I am in stable, by the way.. I should probably go to jessie |
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| 16:20.37 | junka | is there an iceweasel apparmor profile? |
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| 16:23.56 | centrx | junka, according to this (https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=661176), it's "included in the browser abstraction" |
| 16:24.07 | RoyK | bigterd: I thought the arm port was for another arm instruction set |
| 16:26.04 | junka | centrx: thanks |
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| 16:29.58 | i5um41ru | please help, i can't access my tty |
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| 16:33.04 | i5um41ru | hello anyone can help |
| 16:33.07 | centrx | !ask |
| 16:33.07 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 16:35.46 | i5um41ru | I can't access my tty, it's only show a blank page. |
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| 16:37.30 | centrx | i5um41ru, What happens if you press Alt-Left or Alt-Right to scroll between ttys |
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| 16:40.22 | abrotman | a blank page? |
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| 16:42.12 | raboof | I'd like to scan a small stack of papers with a HP all-in-one scanner. xsane seems to technically work but require a lot of tweaking to actually get a readable image out |
| 16:42.21 | raboof | can anyone recommend a better frontend? |
| 16:42.52 | bazhang | ,v simplescan |
| 16:42.53 | judd | No package named 'simplescan' was found in i386. |
| 16:43.00 | bazhang | whoopsie |
| 16:43.21 | raboof | you mean simple-scan? let me give that a whirl. |
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| 16:43.46 | bazhang | is that in the debian repos? |
| 16:44.07 | bazhang | not running debian atm, sorry |
| 16:44.13 | raboof | it's in jessie and unstable, ye |
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| 16:45.03 | raboof | yeah that looks fine, thanks! |
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| 16:45.35 | bazhang | lucky guess |
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| 16:45.41 | raboof | lol ;) |
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| 16:46.51 | rtur | Hi guys, can I tell apt or dpkg to replace dependecies ? E.g. I have Package A which depends on either B or C , currently B is installed, can I tell apt to remove B, install C without reinstalling A ? |
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| 16:47.20 | centrx | rtur, Yes just install C and then uninstall B |
| 16:47.37 | centrx | rtur, if C conflicts with B so cannot be installed at the same time, may want to use aptitude or dselect to deal with it |
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| 16:50.00 | brentaarnold | Can someone please review this small shell script and point me in the direction of where I'm going wrong? Only the very first command of the entire script works. I've also included in the paste the program's help output. http://paste.debian.net/143376/ |
| 16:50.17 | rtur | centrx: Thank you. |
| 16:50.57 | i5um41ru | centrx: it switching |
| 16:51.17 | i5um41ru | abrotman: actually a blank with blinked cursor. But i can't type anything |
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| 16:53.18 | brentaarnold | exit |
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| 17:00.23 | themakaron | brentaarnold: Does it sleep for 5 seconds and then what? Do you get error messages? |
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| 17:29.42 | rocketma1net | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:30.11 | rocketma1net | i'm using dualbood and have rescue linux cd |
| 17:31.01 | rocketma1net | found it ... sry |
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| 17:31.48 | stt_michael | passwd <newpwd> :p |
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| 17:32.32 | junka | :o |
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| 17:32.44 | abrotman | dpkg: tell stt_michael about ifrp |
| 17:33.08 | stt_michael | wtf |
| 17:33.08 | junka | so anyone with physical access can change the pass? |
| 17:33.20 | stt_michael | normally if you get a root stick or such :) |
| 17:33.26 | stt_michael | and your fs isn't encrypted |
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| 17:39.12 | viruser | Hello, I have a problem. during the installation i didn't select my timezone, now that i want to fix the timezone, i symlinked /etc/timezone to the correct zone in /usr/share/zoneinfo but the clock still shows up as UTC. What else do i need to do? |
| 17:40.41 | teraflops | viruser: dpkg-reconfigure tzdata |
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| 17:43.21 | viruser | teraflops: Well i did that, but local time and UTC time are still the same even though it reports using the local timezone |
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| 17:51.56 | viruser | How can i force apt to reinstall a package? |
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| 17:53.14 | stt_michael | aptitude --reinstall <pkg> |
| 17:53.34 | viruser | Awesome. thanks |
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| 18:07.38 | attuuu23 | hi I am getting this error dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/mysql-server-5.5_5.5.41-0+wheezy1_i386.deb (--unpack): |
| 18:07.39 | magnulu | if I execute a script @reboot via cron, and the script sleeps for X seconds, will my boot process halt for X seconds? |
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| 18:11.26 | attuuu23 | E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) /var/cache/apt/archives/mysql-server-5.5_5.5.41-0+wheezy1_i386.deb any ideas? |
| 18:12.02 | nkuttler | attuuu23: can you paste.debian.net the entire output? |
| 18:12.17 | nkuttler | attuuu23: and the command you're using |
| 18:12.33 | Martiini | debian sucks., is a broken system |
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| 18:13.39 | MadsRC | If it sucks, then either use something else or fix what you think is broken... |
| 18:13.50 | attuuu23 | nkuttler: http://paste.debian.net/143391/ |
| 18:14.24 | nkuttler | ,v mysql-server |
| 18:14.25 | judd | Package: mysql-server on i386 -- squeeze-security: 5.1.73-1; squeeze: 5.1.73-1; squeeze-security-lts: 5.1.73-1+deb6u1; wheezy: 5.5.40-0+wheezy1; sid: 5.5.40-1; jessie: 5.5.40-1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 5.5.41-0+wheezy1; wheezy-security: 5.5.41-0+wheezy1 |
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| 18:14.58 | attuuu23 | nkuttler: i have dotdeb repo too |
| 18:15.02 | Martiini | it can't be fixed. you can't fix something that's inherently flawed |
| 18:15.03 | nkuttler | yeah.. |
| 18:15.05 | nkuttler | !dotdeb |
| 18:15.06 | dpkg | http://dotdeb.org/ is an unofficial package repository with emphasis on the <LAMP> solution stack, unsupported in #debian. To get support, read http://www.dotdeb.org/2012/08/24/how-to-post-useful-bug-reports/ and report any issues to https://github.com/gplessis/dotdeb-php5/issues . Ask me about <dotdeb alternatives>. |
| 18:15.27 | nkuttler | attuuu23: debian doesn't do downgrades, and read the error message, it suggests a fix |
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| 18:15.49 | nkuttler | Martiini: if you have no technical questions use #debian-offtopic |
| 18:16.08 | attuuu23 | nkuttler: i just do no understand why it is trying to downgrade |
| 18:16.25 | nkuttler | attuuu23: paste output of apt-cache policy mysql-server |
| 18:16.31 | Martiini | it wants to downgrade to satisfy dependencies |
| 18:16.38 | attuuu23 | i think all the new versions of mysql comes from dotdeb |
| 18:16.49 | nkuttler | attuuu23: probably |
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| 18:17.10 | Martiini | it's cause the maintainers are totally off their minds |
| 18:17.19 | attuuu23 | nkuttler: http://paste.debian.net/143394/ |
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| 18:18.06 | Rasteril | How do I set up a default window manager for xdm? |
| 18:18.13 | nkuttler | attuuu23: i'm not sure, but i think aptitude can remove by repository.. other than that, purge mysql-server, and reinstall it |
| 18:18.42 | nkuttler | Rasteril: man xsession, ~/.xsession |
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| 18:19.24 | Rasteril | nkuttler: when I start xdm, it starts openbox for some reason, I have no ~/.xsession... Any ideas? |
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| 18:19.56 | Rasteril | nkuttler, where else could it configured to start something in the xdm config? |
| 18:19.58 | nkuttler | Rasteril: the man page should tell you which file it defaults to |
| 18:20.09 | attuuu23 | nkuttler: ok thanks for your help i will just a wait for a while to see if this is a dotdeb issue and report to them |
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| 18:28.14 | RogerTalmidge | hello, why would my servers disagree about gpg keys for apt repos? |
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| 18:29.16 | Rasteril | Anyone know what is the default window manager for the X server when I run it with root privilages? |
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| 18:30.11 | RogerTalmidge | X doesn't have a default window manager...various WM's sit on top of X |
| 18:30.37 | Rasteril | But there is some kind of an environment, with movable windows... ? |
| 18:30.46 | RogerTalmidge | what distro? |
| 18:30.56 | Rasteril | Im using debian |
| 18:31.03 | RogerTalmidge | wheezy? |
| 18:31.10 | Rasteril | debian wheezy, yes |
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| 18:31.35 | RogerTalmidge | pretty sure a default desktop install of wheezy uses gnome |
| 18:32.00 | Rasteril | I used a pure install, I did not install gnome |
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| 18:32.40 | RogerTalmidge | you installed X without any desktop GUI? |
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| 18:33.15 | Rasteril | I installed a debian system without anything and the manually installed all the parts that I would need |
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| 18:33.24 | Rasteril | one of them is the xserver |
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| 18:33.50 | RogerTalmidge | if you installed X without a desktop, then you have just X... |
| 18:34.30 | Rasteril | but there is a default (not very usable) interface, that starts up, even when you dont have any wm installed |
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| 18:34.58 | RogerTalmidge | yup |
| 18:35.01 | RogerTalmidge | Xwindows |
| 18:35.05 | RogerTalmidge | basically just terminals |
| 18:35.42 | RogerTalmidge | does it look similar to this? http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d4/X-Window-System.png |
| 18:36.02 | Rasteril | Oh, ok. Now I know. But the problem is: I have installed two wms, (openbox and i3) and it's always starting openbox, I don't know where to find the configuration file to change it to start i3 at startup |
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| 18:36.20 | Rasteril | yes, that's exactly how it looks, got it! |
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| 18:36.46 | RogerTalmidge | probably not running either without setting it up in xorg.conf |
| 18:37.10 | valdyn | Rasteril: put "exec i3" into ~/.xsession |
| 18:37.14 | Rasteril | but it starts openbox on default, I did not set it anywhere |
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| 18:37.33 | Rasteril | valdyn, that would work, but I am using xdm, which ignores the ~/* files |
| 18:37.46 | valdyn | Rasteril: no, xdm does not ignore that file |
| 18:38.02 | Rasteril | valdyn, I'll try it |
| 18:38.35 | RogerTalmidge | you should install a DM like LightDM |
| 18:38.37 | RogerTalmidge | make your life easier |
| 18:38.51 | Rasteril | LightDM? I'll check it out |
| 18:39.10 | DasEi | does one know where icedove holds local stored passwords ? A HD with them stored in keypass died, but I can still use icedove to unlock the accounts, thus found no way to read them out |
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| 18:39.50 | fishcooker | how about get list website that contain spesific text? |
| 18:40.00 | valdyn | DasEi: depends on the version as far as i know, see ~/.mozilla/icedove or ~/.icedove/ |
| 18:40.20 | DasEi | valdyn: and then in which fille ? |
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| 18:40.47 | valdyn | DasEi: you want to start icedove using a specific profile. The profile is not a single file |
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| 18:41.29 | Rasteril | valdyn, I've tried it, but `sudo startx` does not start i3...? |
| 18:41.29 | valdyn | DasEi: mozilla profiles are "<random>.default" |
| 18:41.41 | valdyn | j1gtwq2i.default for example |
| 18:41.45 | valdyn | DasEi: ^^ |
| 18:41.53 | DasEi | valdyn: as I know from ff, there isn't an option to simply show it from it's gui ? AH, I have a look there . second |
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| 18:42.19 | valdyn | DasEi: you can firefox --ProfileManager, same should work with icedove i guess |
| 18:42.40 | valdyn | Rasteril: that is because you are starting X as root, thats already fucked up |
| 18:42.47 | valdyn | Rasteril: use "startx" |
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| 18:42.58 | DasEi | trying both, will report in few minutes |
| 18:43.39 | valdyn | Rasteril: ~/.xsession of course is for the current user, which is probably not root |
| 18:44.25 | Rasteril | valdyn, but what user does xdm use? I would like to start i3 from xdm, but it always starts openbox. |
| 18:44.45 | valdyn | Rasteril: xdm uses that xsession file too if you log in as that user |
| 18:45.07 | valdyn | Rasteril: startx or xdm makes no difference regarding .xsession |
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| 18:46.28 | Rasteril | valdyn, at the moment, `startx` does what I want, but letting xdm startup does not. I have not changed anything in the config files, it all just got messed up when installing openbox |
| 18:47.08 | valdyn | Rasteril: maybe .xsession needs to be executable, mine is executable anyway |
| 18:47.16 | xreal | DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive apt-get -y install <package> - how can I write stderror to a file using tee, but still show stdout on a normal terminal? |
| 18:47.23 | valdyn | Rasteril: the archlinux wiki claims it needs to be executable anyway |
| 18:47.25 | xreal | whoops wrong |
| 18:47.56 | Rasteril | valdyn, in my system, it is, actually... |
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| 18:50.18 | valdyn | Rasteril: the default xsession, without an .xsession file starts the alternative x-window-manager |
| 18:50.40 | valdyn | Rasteril: openbox is what its set to currently, that can be changed too, though i personally prefer just using ~/.xsession |
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| 18:51.34 | valdyn | Rasteril: update-alternatives --config x-window-manager |
| 18:51.41 | valdyn | Rasteril: (as root) |
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| 18:53.22 | DasEi | valdyn: the profile I found before, but trying to open Profile, the -haha- videoplayer opens saying me I tried to open a textfile , tztztz, I have stored the whole profile on another drive days before on a backup hd I will have to reconnect (whole rack was messed up, Uefi-Gpt-crypted lvm in quattro-boot environment, rolleyes, all up again now, I brb |
| 18:53.50 | mpezar | is there a way of using rsync to delete folders in DESTINATION dir that is EMPTY in SOURCE dir? I can't seem to google an answer for this |
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| 18:55.48 | Tommy2 | Hey guys question, would you consider a 30 character password (Uppercase/lowercase/numb/specialchar) to be secure these days? |
| 18:56.02 | Tommy2 | Let's say an encrypted file using gpg aes256 |
| 18:56.18 | Rasteril | valdyn, wow, that's exactly what I wanted! But how does it know, that openbox was installed? Interesting... Thank you! |
| 18:57.22 | valdyn | Rasteril: it doesnt know, openbox installs that alternative. Each alternative has a priority. It's reasonable that openbox is higher priority than i3, because everyone will get along in openbox and almost no one will be able to use i3 |
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| 18:58.14 | Rasteril | valdyn, haha, I don't believe, that the i3 creators wanted to have a lower priority than openbox? |
| 18:58.27 | valdyn | Rasteril: of course its not their choice |
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| 19:03.46 | Quatroking | Anybody know if I can run asp.net on debian? |
| 19:04.12 | Quatroking | my next semester is all about the asp.net but since my laptop's gpu is fried I can only run linux on my laptop |
| 19:04.27 | Quatroking | windows will only use legacy drivers which work like crap |
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| 19:05.40 | somiaj | Quatroking: what is asp.net? Can you tell me what it requires? Flash, java, etc? |
| 19:06.16 | valdyn | thats microsofts php |
| 19:06.21 | Quatroking | it's a web application framework from microsoft |
| 19:06.38 | valdyn | Quatroking: you should be able to google that |
| 19:06.59 | valdyn | mono can probably run it |
| 19:07.03 | somiaj | ahh, I woudln't know. I personally run win7 in a vm for the rare cases I need to do something I can't do on linux. |
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| 19:07.12 | Quatroking | valdyn, I'm not really sure how to start |
| 19:07.24 | valdyn | Quatroking: apt-cache search asp.net |
| 19:07.58 | valdyn | Quatroking: im sure you can google "asp.net debian" |
| 19:08.12 | valdyn | as i just saw debian has the packages anyway |
| 19:08.30 | Quatroking | I've never actually done any C# development on linux |
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| 19:12.30 | DasEi | valdyn: I found the ~/.icedove/3ln58dtw.default$ folder with many files listed by ls in terminal amongst 2 subfolders, but I still have no clue where in these files PW's are stored, some of them open by nano, others not, the profile.ini one dir up also offers no concerning information, hmm icedove-irc ? |
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| 19:15.21 | valdyn | DasEi: you can use that profile from another iceweasel |
| 19:15.26 | valdyn | DasEi: you can use that profile from another *icedove* |
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| 19:15.44 | valdyn | DasEi: thats all i know, i don't know where exactly passwords are stored in there |
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| 19:17.55 | DasEi | valdyn: I want to recover PW in plain from a working stored Icedove, so waht will another profile help ? I didn't crypt it, so it has to be somewhere written plain |
| 19:18.07 | DasEi | what* |
| 19:18.21 | valdyn | DasEi: its not in plain |
| 19:18.43 | valdyn | DasEi: with firefox you can view the plain passwords in firefox, its the same in icedove i would guess |
| 19:18.48 | DasEi | valdyn: I set it up so, you can choose when setting up an account |
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| 19:19.47 | DasEi | valdyn: I guessed so, too, and oc faught me thru all options, prefrences and so on, but these PW's aren't stored in FF |
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| 19:20.54 | DasEi | valdyn: I try to find some specific icedove forum now |
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| 19:22.31 | MrTopless | Hey guys i'm trying to setup environmental variables in apache2 |
| 19:22.38 | valdyn | Mar 11, 2006 - key3.db contains a key used to encrypt and decrypt saved passwords |
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| 19:22.48 | MrTopless | this export USER=$USER |
| 19:22.52 | MrTopless | doesn't work :-D |
| 19:23.05 | MrTopless | How to change $USER so it would return current username? |
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| 19:24.06 | DasEi | valdyn: yes, but that's optional, you can when setting it up to either have the PW stored encrypted or not |
| 19:24.13 | valdyn | DasEi: so they are not stored in the clear. Theres information how to decrypt on google |
| 19:24.28 | valdyn | DasEi: interesting, i cant remember that |
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| 19:25.52 | DasEi | valdyn: normal was the option, crypted by two different nethods the other 2 possibilities to choose from |
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| 19:27.10 | DasEi | valdyn: darn heartbleed and then the backup died, grrr |
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| 19:27.45 | valdyn | signons.sqlite: SQLite 3.x database, user version 5 |
| 19:28.01 | valdyn | if your passwords are in the clear you can read this in plain or using sqlite |
| 19:28.03 | MrTopless | How to source file on debian? |
| 19:28.18 | centrx | MrTopless, source file? |
| 19:28.26 | centrx | like with bash? |
| 19:28.32 | MrTopless | centrx, yes |
| 19:28.44 | MrTopless | <thumbs> MrTopless: you have to source somefile && apachectl restart |
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| 19:29.30 | centrx | MrTopless, yes the command is: source <somefile> |
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| 19:29.51 | centrx | http://ss64.com/bash/source.html |
| 19:30.10 | tastybuds | Guys, I don't know what happened.. I lost my sound. |
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| 19:32.04 | MrTopless | Okay now I uderstad. Sourcing is like executing :-) |
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| 19:33.22 | DasEi | valdyn: thanks for your help, I will now save the whole profile on an external again, more important work to now, least my rag is up again and for now I have to use iceweasel or sooner or later will have to ask the proovider for a reset, is annoying not being home and not to be reachable (gg, build a live usb with icedove, yy), thank you |
| 19:33.40 | DasEi | to do now* |
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| 20:09.46 | bleb | I'm setting up mpd and it appears the default debian init system doesn't play well with the mpd set up I desire |
| 20:10.17 | bleb | basically mpd is supposed to search ~/.mpdconf for configuration, but currently the init system seems to start mpd as root or some other user |
| 20:10.49 | bleb | so I need mpd to be run as the right user |
| 20:11.03 | bleb | any idea how to solve this? |
| 20:11.42 | tremon | bleb: one idea is to not run a system service under an interactive user account |
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| 20:12.18 | tremon | bleb: another idea is to change the "user" directive in /etc/mpd.conf |
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| 20:13.14 | tremon | although mpd will still read its options from /etc/mpd.conf I guess |
| 20:14.29 | bleb | I'd like as much stuff as possible to be in my home directory because that the only part of my system I back up regularly |
| 20:15.15 | bleb | in order to have config files and the mpd database in my home directory, shouldn't I be running mpd with my interactive user account? |
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| 20:16.50 | tremon | not necessarily. You can use group permissions or extended acls to allow the mpd system user write access to your homedir |
| 20:17.26 | tremon | and making /etc/mpd.conf a symlink may work |
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| 20:26.25 | bleb | changing the "user" directive in /etc/mpd.conf is no good because mpd needs to read that before reading ~/.mpd/mpd.conf, and it's supposed to read ~/.mpd/mpd.conf first. really I just want to run mpd as a user process... I could put mpd in my .xinitrc but wouldn't mpd still be run automatically by the init system? I am not familiar with the debian init system. |
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| 20:35.36 | tremon | xinitrc is not run by the init system, it's run in your user session (if run at all) |
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| 20:40.30 | iongraphix | hello |
| 20:40.39 | iongraphix | anybody home |
| 20:40.39 | iongraphix | ?? |
| 20:40.44 | mtn | nope |
| 20:41.02 | mtn | 1483 noones |
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| 20:42.56 | cdb23ax | can someone help with openvpn. i have a debian 7 openvpn client it works by simply enter following in terminal openvpn --remote 4.2.2.1 --dev tun1 --ifconfig 172.16.99.2 172.16.99.1 |
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| 20:43.08 | cdb23ax | but how do i from a mac with tunnelblick to the server? |
| 20:43.25 | Juslintek | Hey, how to ublock port. Brand new debian installation can't open page on port 8080 |
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| 20:43.36 | Juslintek | on 80 it works |
| 20:43.51 | Juslintek | vh:8080 doesn't |
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| 20:44.50 | Juslintek | iptables ruleset empty |
| 20:45.03 | nkuttler | Juslintek: then something external is filtering your ports |
| 20:45.27 | Juslintek | I don't know, but when I installed webmin it worked on por 10000 |
| 20:45.28 | jelly | Juslintek: debian has no firewall by default |
| 20:45.35 | Juslintek | And it can't effect anything externally |
| 20:45.39 | Juslintek | apart from debian |
| 20:45.55 | Juslintek | and vh:10000 |
| 20:45.55 | Juslintek | same stuff |
| 20:45.56 | nkuttler | Juslintek: which url exactly are you trying to access? |
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| 20:46.29 | Juslintek | http://www.bw-mobler.se:10000/ |
| 20:46.48 | iongraphix | access debied |
| 20:46.53 | iongraphix | denied |
| 20:47.00 | nkuttler | Juslintek: oh, i thought it was local, but yeah, that is blocked |
| 20:47.37 | Juslintek | but why webmin works then? |
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| 20:48.04 | nkuttler | Juslintek: what does that mean? do you mean you can access it? where? |
| 20:48.19 | Juslintek | I can access it with webmin installation |
| 20:48.24 | Juslintek | just a sec I'll install it |
| 20:48.34 | nkuttler | Juslintek: you're not very specific |
| 20:48.47 | nkuttler | fwiw, webmin is not in debian and not supported here |
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| 20:49.26 | Juslintek | nkuttler I figured |
| 20:49.39 | Juslintek | apache needs listening directive |
| 20:49.48 | Juslintek | to listen on 8080 |
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| 20:53.36 | sys | hello how can i configure a wifi hotspot for compatible with android devices |
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| 20:55.11 | subz3ro | hey |
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| 20:55.27 | subz3ro | hope anyone of you can help. since i dont understand what the heck is wrong with my raspbian :( |
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| 20:55.38 | subz3ro | i reinstalled the pi with raspbian today... and cannot get ntp working |
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| 20:55.57 | subz3ro | the time is absulotely wrong. checked already if ntpd is running and with netstat if its listening... |
| 20:56.09 | subz3ro | even with ntpq -p i dont get anything |
| 20:56.16 | subz3ro | delay of the servers is all the time 00000 |
| 20:56.26 | subz3ro | already checked if the ntp servers are reachable... they are... |
| 20:56.27 | subz3ro | any ideas? |
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| 20:59.47 | jelly | subz3ro: wecan't help with raspbian, try #raspbian or ##linux |
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| 21:00.11 | subz3ro | jelly: thats it. i asked there all day long |
| 21:00.16 | subz3ro | getting exactly no response |
| 21:00.21 | jelly | it's weekend, be patient |
| 21:00.30 | subz3ro | im trying it since 5 days... |
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| 21:00.46 | subz3ro | ofc irc is idle chat... but a channel with 100+ ppl in it |
| 21:00.49 | subz3ro | anywaysa |
| 21:00.55 | nkuttler | subz3ro: maybe nobody answers because you're using raspbian and should be in #raspbian |
| 21:01.04 | jelly | he meant there |
| 21:01.07 | iongraphix | guys i have an idea. i have been thinking of a linux runnable that could solve library version troubles that developers go through to get their software onto the various distro. what the application will do is to accept the binaries of the developers and then based on the libraries discovers suggest and create the packages the developer will need for the various repositories with respect to the package manager. This i believe would save alot of |
| 21:01.07 | subz3ro | omg |
| 21:01.07 | iongraphix | precious "open source" time. Got the concept from linus's answer to the linux desktop here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PmHRSeA2c8#t=332 please take a look and tell me what you think. |
| 21:01.08 | nkuttler | eh |
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| 21:01.25 | iongraphix | please comment |
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| 21:04.53 | jacobasds | hi |
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| 21:05.13 | jacobasds | can you show me how to upgrade the kernel please? thanks |
| 21:05.34 | phy1729 | why do you need/want the kernel to be upgraded? |
| 21:05.41 | nkuttler | jacobasds: apt-get update, apt-get upgrade |
| 21:05.57 | jacobasds | there was a piece from the bot, dpkg that I found handy once |
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| 21:06.33 | nkuttler | jacobasds: hm, there are various kernel factoids.. can you be more specific? |
| 21:06.55 | jacobasds | it was a command from upgrading your kernel.. |
| 21:07.17 | jacobasds | it was quite a big command |
| 21:07.26 | nkuttler | jacobasds: why does apt-get upgrade not work for you? |
| 21:07.48 | iongraphix | hey |
| 21:07.51 | iongraphix | i need your help |
| 21:08.06 | jacobasds | nevermind nkuttler thanks |
| 21:08.34 | jacobasds | Oh I remember now |
| 21:08.40 | jacobasds | it was for installing the backported kernel |
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| 21:08.58 | jacobasds | it fixed my sound last time.. |
| 21:09.09 | nkuttler | !tell jacobasds about backports |
| 21:09.20 | bazhang | iongraphix, dont bring that here |
| 21:09.20 | nkuttler | jacobasds: add the sources, and then install whichever package it is |
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| 21:09.32 | nkuttler | ,kernels |
| 21:09.33 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.18.0-trunk-686-pae (3.18.5-1~exp1); sid: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt4-2); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt2-1); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt2-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.65-1+deb7u1); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.63-2+deb7u2~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze6) |
| 21:09.39 | jacobasds | okay great |
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| 21:12.12 | ahsh8aJa | using grub on ntfs getting message "fixup signature not match" and rescue prompt. how to repair ntfs filesystem to the point where grub loads properly? |
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| 21:22.34 | Walex | ahsh8aJa: using GRUB on NTFS is not a good idea... |
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| 21:23.03 | Walex | ahsh8aJa: anyhow you can repair NTFS filesystems with several MS-Windows tools. |
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| 21:24.39 | ahsh8aJa | Walex, thanks. hindsight is wonderful. which tools can be used to repair it? |
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| 21:26.56 | AHMED_FAROOQ | hey baby baby my name is AHMED baby baby im from dubai baby so give me some lovin baby and flirt with me, give me ur kik and snapchat baby |
| 21:27.31 | hexafraction | !ops |
| 21:27.32 | dpkg | Please invoke 'dpkg: ops $problem' to call the operators to deal with a specific problem. Misuse of this will lead to a ban. Operators can also be contacted in the #debian-ops channel. |
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| 21:29.40 | AHMED_FAROOQ | hey baby baby my name is AHMED baby baby im from dubai baby so give me some lovin baby and flirt with me, give me ur kik and snapchat baby |
| 21:29.54 | nkuttler | !ops AHMED_FAROOQ spam |
| 21:29.54 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: nkuttler complains about: AHMED_FAROOQ spam |
| 21:30.43 | teraflops | AHMED_FAROOQ: indi ra'si sadiki |
| 21:30.57 | nkuttler | teraflops: please don't encourage it |
| 21:31.03 | AHMED_FAROOQ | 35M DUBAI U? |
| 21:31.26 | teraflops | nkuttler: srry how do you know im encouraging him? |
| 21:31.28 | AHMED_FAROOQ | ANY SEXY CHICKS HERE |
| 21:31.45 | phy1729 | AHMED_FAROOQ: please shut up this isn't the place for that |
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| 21:32.51 | AHMED_FAROOQ | hey baby baby my name is AHMED baby baby im from dubai baby so give me some lovin baby and flirt with me, give me ur kik and snapchat baby |
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| 21:33.56 | bazhang | AHMED_FAROOQ, wrong network |
| 21:34.15 | AHMED_FAROOQ | JUST LOOKING FOR HOT SEXY BABES |
| 21:34.18 | AHMED_FAROOQ | R THERE NONE HERE |
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| 21:34.25 | bazhang | AHMED_FAROOQ, wrong network |
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| 21:35.03 | AHMED_FAROOQ | WHERE ARE THE HOT CHICKS |
| 21:35.05 | AHMED_FAROOQ | ON THIS NETWORK |
| 21:35.13 | bazhang | is this a bot |
| 21:35.14 | AHMED_FAROOQ | I ALSO LIKE SEXY CROSSDRESSERS AND TRANNYS |
| 21:37.09 | ninedragon | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:37.10 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: ninedragon complains about: AHMED_FAROOQ spam |
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| 21:37.48 | AHMED_FAROOQ | hey baby baby my name is AHMED baby baby im from dubai baby so give me some lovin baby and flirt with me, give me ur kik and snapchat baby |
| 21:38.03 | nkuttler | ninedragon: ops all seem to be away. i suggest /ignore |
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| 21:39.51 | AHMED_FAROOQ | WHERE ARE THE HOT CHICKS AT |
| 21:39.53 | AHMED_FAROOQ | IM GETTING MAD |
| 21:40.51 | AHMED_FAROOQ | hey baby baby my name is AHMED baby baby im from dubai baby so give me some lovin baby and flirt with me, give me ur kik and snapchat baby |
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| 21:41.44 | smithd | lol |
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| 21:43.20 | AHMED_FAROOQ | hey baby baby my name is AHMED baby baby im from dubai baby so give me some lovin baby and flirt with me, give me ur kik and snapchat baby |
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| 21:44.29 | AHMED_FAROOQ | hey baby baby my name is AHMED baby baby im from dubai baby so give me some lovin baby and flirt with me, give me ur kik and snapchat baby |
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| 21:46.07 | bazhang | hehe |
| 21:47.01 | teraflops | AHMED_FAROOQ: please flood a liitle more |
| 21:47.03 | Zarthus | !ops AHMED_FAROOQ is acting silly. |
| 21:47.04 | dpkg | Hydroxide, dondelelcaro, LoRez, RichiH, mentor, abrotman, Maulkin, stew, peterS, Myon, Ganneff, weasel, zobel, themill, babilen, SynrG, jm_, somiaj, jelly: zarthus complains about: AHMED_FAROOQ is acting silly. |
| 21:47.19 | Zarthus | always wanted to see how that owrked |
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| 21:49.07 | AHMED_FAROOQ | hey baby baby my name is AHMED baby baby im from dubai baby so give me some lovin baby and flirt with me, give me ur kik and snapchat baby |
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| 21:53.32 | teraflops | hey lostlabyrinth is the annoying one |
| 21:53.46 | teraflops | from a vps on rusia |
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| 21:54.15 | teraflops | i pick the nick on a kick |
| 21:54.22 | teraflops | blame that guy |
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| 21:54.47 | teraflops | lostlabyri ⸠i know u want me |
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| 21:56.46 | DasEi | I'm trying to set up my new brother printer-scanner combo from terminal . all goes well, loaded cups an have an elinks gui. But then it wants an authorisation by user n pass, neieither regular user/pass nor root/pass works. A hint is printed that I need a valid kerberos ticket; isn't that set in the moment I log in ? |
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| 21:58.32 | mafrosis | lo can anyone point me at which mailing list contains the alerts for new Debian releases? I need to keep a better eye on point releases to stable.. |
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| 21:59.32 | firion90 | just a second |
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| 22:00.41 | OS-15149 | anyone mind help explaining a simple grep statement |
| 22:00.47 | DasEi | mafrosis: https://lists.debian.org/debian-release/ |
| 22:01.17 | OS-15149 | grep "\." What does this do exactly? |
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| 22:04.35 | DasEi | OS-15149: it's a comparing option, my english is too bad (I'm tired,too), read man grep in the downer section, it's decribed there |
| 22:04.51 | DasEi | described* |
| 22:05.01 | OS-15149 | I did I get the whole grep "stuff" |
| 22:05.17 | OS-15149 | I just dont understand what the specific option "\." does |
| 22:05.19 | Lirion | try to find out more about masking on your shell |
| 22:05.30 | Lirion | this basically greps for the dot as a character |
| 22:05.40 | OS-15149 | ok so that returns the period |
| 22:05.42 | Lirion | where normally it would grep for one single character of whatever type |
| 22:05.50 | OS-15149 | but why wouldt grep "." do the samething |
| 22:05.53 | Lirion | why does it do that? answer is masing |
| 22:05.56 | Lirion | masking* |
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| 22:07.15 | Lirion | because grep uses basic regular expressions |
| 22:07.31 | OS-15149 | ok so I must use a \ to find the dot? |
| 22:07.38 | Lirion | it will understand things like $, ^ and . |
| 22:07.46 | Lirion | all those things are mentioned in the grep manpage |
| 22:07.57 | Lirion | yes, because, then you mask it. |
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| 22:08.44 | tommyF | OS-15149: . doesn't mean . (the character in a bash cli/grep cli) ;) |
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| 22:09.19 | tommyF | \. is a dot ;) |
| 22:09.24 | OS-15149 | I got it now thanks guys |
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| 22:09.31 | OS-15149 | I'm very new linux |
| 22:09.45 | OS-15149 | :) |
| 22:09.48 | Lirion | that's not the worst thing |
| 22:09.54 | tommyF | you are dealing with something very old - i'm sure it would be different today |
| 22:09.57 | Lirion | if you now get the hang of how shell escaping works etc |
| 22:10.02 | Lirion | you'll never learn wrong things |
| 22:10.12 | Lirion | (like I did earlier in my life, had to cope with that too) |
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| 22:11.18 | tommyF | i quote everything now " " :) |
| 22:11.36 | Lirion | and that will still require you to use the backslash every now and then. |
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| 22:13.04 | tommyF | yes for real $ etc |
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| 22:13.18 | tommyF | and real " |
| 22:14.07 | firion90 | isn't it searching for hidden files? |
| 22:14.21 | tommyF | Lirion: i'm guessing the real history of this goes back to when there was just the ascii caps on unix ? |
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| 22:16.24 | aufsfail | is there anyone familiar with aufs or mhddfs? |
| 22:16.33 | aufsfail | aufs floods my directory merges with .wh..wh.aufs wh..wh..opq etc |
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| 22:16.42 | aufsfail | and mhddfs has files being world writable/deletable even tho they are 644 & 655'ed on the real partition/drives |
| 22:16.45 | GRMLer | not me |
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| 22:18.06 | tommyF | GRMLer: why not? |
| 22:18.31 | GRMLer | tommyF: the destiny |
| 22:20.05 | tommyF | i blame my inability to try new things |
| 22:20.30 | GRMLer | in other words, laziness ? |
| 22:21.21 | tommyF | not lazy one bit - i spend a lot of time doing the things i know a lot |
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| 22:21.48 | GRMLer | like what? what are your skills? :-o |
| 22:21.49 | tommyF | i just installed poppler so i can transform pdfs arounds |
| 22:22.12 | Lirion | if you never try new things then that's no inability, than that's a pure motivation problem |
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| 22:22.47 | firion90 | I just installed debian 8 without a desktop took me an hour to learn how to use ifup |
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| 22:23.28 | GRMLer | firion90: haha |
| 22:24.06 | firion90 | aka jessie rc1 |
| 22:25.49 | firion90 | question though, is jessie really going to have systemd when it is finally released? |
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| 22:28.22 | aufsfail | is there anyone familiar with aufs or mhddfs? |
| 22:28.45 | GRMLer | aufsfail: google too . |
| 22:29.18 | aufsfail | GRMLer, ... |
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| 22:29.54 | DasEi | firion90: quite sure, as wheezy already uses a mixture /w old init, and advantages are on the hand |
| 22:30.05 | firion90 | ahh okay |
| 22:30.15 | GRMLer | aufsfail: i told you that you got Google too, you might fidn what you're looking for there, it's not like i'm telling you 'hey there is Google rookie :D' |
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| 22:31.39 | aufsfail | GRMLer, I just don't see an option for aufs not to generate those pesky .wh..wh.aufs wh..wh..opq garbage. |
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| 22:39.43 | tommyF | aufsfail: edit the source and comment them all out - or don't compile in the debug |
| 22:40.24 | aufsfail | tommyF, that's debug? |
| 22:41.14 | tommyF | ususlly one man's garbage output is another man's debug info |
| 22:41.31 | aufsfail | well I defined it as garbage but it isn't really so :-p |
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| 22:49.46 | Melissa_ | Can I use apt-zip even if the target system does not currently have that program on it? |
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| 22:50.22 | Melissa_ | It's at a different place and I need to install a program on it as soon as I get there. However, there is no Internet connection where that computer is |
| 22:50.26 | Melissa_ | valdyn do you know? |
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| 23:00.55 | firion90 | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:00.58 | firion90 | gr |
| 23:01.08 | DasEi | Melissa_: yes an nd no; you can install apt-zip on the target : https://packages.debian.org/apt-zip |
| 23:01.08 | firion90 | there |
| 23:01.26 | DasEi | firion90: kch kch |
| 23:01.42 | Melissa_ | DasEi but it doesn't have an Internet connection |
| 23:02.05 | firion90 | XD |
| 23:02.10 | DasEi | Melissa_: I got that, but you can plug it in locally |
| 23:02.33 | DasEi | d/l from your location to usb or such and then... |
| 23:02.40 | Melissa_ | Of course |
| 23:02.42 | Melissa_ | Thanks |
| 23:02.45 | DasEi | np |
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| 23:03.52 | firion90 | that's probably the worst mistake I've ever done before |
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| 23:06.22 | DasEi | firion90: luckily on one of my own machines I recently managed to spend two hours work in a chroot environment w/o realising, well I liked the bash history, so nvm, one checks getting old ;) |
| 23:07.03 | firion90 | chroot is always good |
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| 23:07.08 | firion90 | or not |
| 23:07.14 | firion90 | depends what your doing |
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| 23:20.41 | smithd | I feel so chrooted today |
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| 23:30.05 | tikifreek | I'm trying to add a printer via the GUI. It finds my Canon i860, and I press add. After a second it takes me back to the area that shows all printers, and it's still blank. What am I missing? |
| 23:31.32 | mtn | tikifreek: might want to try using cups. put this in your browser: http://localhost:631 |
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| 23:32.21 | holms | where can i ask about debian jessie |
| 23:34.09 | tikifreek | mtn: ty |
| 23:34.12 | mtn | holms: here or debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
| 23:34.34 | holms | hmz. let's try here. seems to be ufw doesn't have ufw.service |
| 23:34.45 | holms | and in latest package 0.34~rc-0ubuntu4 somebody finally commited it |
| 23:34.54 | holms | question would be how do i install 0.34 |
| 23:35.06 | holms | seems to be even deb not available, and in apt-source there's 0.33 only |
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| 23:35.51 | mtn | holms: you can check on the packages situation here: https://packages.qa.debian.org/common/index.html |
| 23:36.24 | holms | version 0.33-2 =/ |
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| 23:37.27 | tikifreek | mtn: worked like a charm |
| 23:37.39 | mtn | tikifreek: nice |
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| 23:40.09 | holms | Failed to start ufw.service: Unit ufw.service failed to load: No such file or directory. =/ |
| 23:40.12 | mtn | holms: newer packages are going to be slow coming because of the current freeze |
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| 23:40.32 | holms | mtn: can i just.. em.. override this manually or smtng |
| 23:40.41 | holms | if i can't start ufw |
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| 23:40.48 | holms | what's the point of freezing then:) |
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| 23:41.59 | mtn | holms: can't you start it after the boot as a user? |
| 23:42.30 | holms | root@staging:~# service ufw start |
| 23:42.31 | holms | Failed to start ufw.service: Unit ufw.service failed to load: No such file or directory. |
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| 23:43.17 | blackjack | how to update adobe flash on iceweasel? |
| 23:43.45 | holms | mtn: seems to be on 0.33 there's no systemd script for ufw, on 0.34 it's added, and as far as I see it's only available in ubuntu. |
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| 23:44.40 | mtn | holms: I see that, but can't you start it as an user? I don't use, so don't really know. there is even a gui for it, gufw, I believe |
| 23:45.00 | holms | 01:42:31 holms | root@staging:~# service ufw start â Akimoto |
| 23:45.02 | holms | 01:42:31 holms | Failed to start ufw.service: Unit ufw.service failed to load: No such file or directory. |
| 23:45.04 | holms | aparently nt |
| 23:45.06 | holms | not* |
| 23:45.15 | holms | i have no user in here, it's a server |
| 23:45.26 | holms | i need it as a daemon |
| 23:46.23 | mtn | blackjack: flash on iceweasel is outdated and going to stay that way. you can use chromium and pepperflash, which in backports for wheezy |
| 23:46.46 | holms | k seems to be i need to get back to upstart.. nothing gonna works this way in here |
| 23:47.01 | holms | systemd script is like 9999x easier then init.d |
| 23:47.02 | shay_shay | hey... is there anything wrong with doing this: |
| 23:47.05 | shay_shay | dpkg-reconfigure -u $(dpkg --get-selections | awk '{print $1}') |
| 23:47.50 | shay_shay | I ask because the "dpkg-reconfigure" switch "-a (all)" seems to have been removed from jessie |
| 23:48.11 | tikifreek | how do i use cups to print from another computer? |
| 23:48.32 | shay_shay | tikifreek:very carefully |
| 23:49.37 | shay_shay | tikifreek: this page will prime you on what you need to know to make it work. http://www.openprinting.org/download/kpfeifle/LinuxKongress2002/Tutorial/VI.CUPS-Connections/VI.tutorial-handout-cups-connections.html |
| 23:49.40 | holms | mtn: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ufw/+bug/1126083 |
| 23:49.56 | holms | "This was actually fixed in 0.34~rc-0ubuntu4." |
| 23:51.07 | mtn | holms: maybe the folks in debian-next would have some ideas |
| 23:51.28 | holms | thanks |
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