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| 00:12.32 | gravy_ | Help! |
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| 00:12.58 | gravy_ | I installed Debian stable and I get error: file /boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod not found! |
| 00:13.24 | ShalokShalom | Is there a Way to create my own live iso, with a costum DE Settings, custom Apps etc ? |
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| 00:23.25 | gravy_ | I installed Debian stable and I get error: file /boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod not found! |
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| 00:24.17 | ectospasm | gravy_: be patient, don't ask your question again. If someone knows the answer and sees it, they'll respond. You might have to lurk here for a bit to get an answer. |
| 00:24.20 | ectospasm | !ask |
| 00:24.20 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 00:29.18 | linuxuz3r | xD |
| 00:29.32 | linuxuz3r | hi how do i add dm sessions on gdm |
| 00:29.46 | linuxuz3r | i am using a different wm |
| 00:30.16 | gravy_ | Can anyone please help me with this? |
| 00:30.28 | gravy_ | This happens every time I try to install Debian on my laptop. |
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| 00:35.12 | gravy_ | I'm going to try to boot linux mint and then just copy normal.mod into where it is missing from. |
| 00:35.17 | brlog | gravy_: Grub cannot find the files inside /boot/grub |
| 00:35.41 | brlog | gravy_: they should be there by default |
| 00:35.47 | gravy_ | right |
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| 00:39.00 | spTollway | those are the programs that grub can run? |
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| 00:40.07 | gravy_ | What the hell |
| 00:40.16 | gravy_ | normal.mod exists within /boot/grub! |
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| 00:42.04 | ShalokShalom | hi, how to remaster debian ? |
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| 00:43.37 | gravy_ | http://howtoubuntu.org/how-to-repair-restore-reinstall-grub-2-with-a-ubuntu-live-cd |
| 00:43.39 | gravy_ | even after this |
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| 00:50.46 | gravy_ | What is it with Debian and laptops? |
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| 00:52.12 | srg | I have debian working fine on my laptop. Debian testing/jessie. |
| 00:52.28 | polyphagia | me too |
| 00:52.42 | dvs | Linux doesn't like super new laptops. |
| 00:53.03 | Disconsented | depends on the distro |
| 00:53.20 | srg | Hey, is there a tool that determines packages that are unneeded? That have nothing depending on it? |
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| 00:53.39 | gravy_ | apt-get autoclean && apt-get autoremove |
| 00:53.39 | spTollway | srg are you being prompted to autoremove? |
| 00:53.44 | gravy_ | it is a new laptop unfortunately. |
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| 00:53.55 | srg | no, I just want an equilivant to freebsd's pkg_cutleaves :-P |
| 00:54.05 | gravy_ | ^ what i just said |
| 00:54.39 | srg | Nah, that'll just remove packages. I want to list packages that don't have others depending on it. Like if I install emacs, it has nothing depending on it (because I installed it) |
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| 00:55.32 | gravy_ | its late... |
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| 00:56.45 | brlog | srg: those are marked auto I think |
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| 00:57.15 | srg | ah |
| 00:57.18 | srg | hm |
| 00:57.43 | future28 | Where do I paste dmesg for inspection? Wifi issues with atheros card |
| 00:58.05 | brlog | srg: In aptitude I can mark them, if possible, or unmark. |
| 00:58.06 | future28 | Is pastebin fine? |
| 00:58.25 | spTollway | just the part about the card not everything ;) |
| 00:58.53 | future28 | spTollway: Heh indeed: http://paste.debian.net/144377/ |
| 00:59.35 | brlog | srg: apt-mark can list such packages |
| 00:59.45 | srg | hm ok, i'll check it out |
| 00:59.48 | srg | thanks! |
| 00:59.51 | spTollway | did the card fail ? (are those fatal errors or warnings) |
| 00:59.53 | srg | It's been a bit since I admin'ed a debian box |
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| 01:00.05 | future28 | spTollway: The card worked fine for 10 mins, then dropped off and fails |
| 01:00.26 | spTollway | usb card? maybe cable is loose? |
| 01:00.31 | future28 | spTollway: Pcie |
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| 01:01.06 | future28 | spTollway: It's done this before - Can't really find much. Bug reports have been submitted on peoples blogs etc but most of those workarounds do not help |
| 01:01.27 | spTollway | is it a card or on board? if card - reseat it? |
| 01:01.59 | spTollway | what about rmmod the module and modprobe it back and redo you iwconfig etc |
| 01:02.11 | future28 | it's a card, yeah |
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| 01:02.21 | future28 | spTollway: How do I do that? |
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| 01:03.03 | spTollway | take the card out and wipe the gold fingers carefully and reinsert |
| 01:03.52 | spTollway | you are using network manager for the card connection? i'd write a script that does it all manually if this is a real problem and you don't want to get a used usb for $10 |
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| 01:04.38 | future28 | Yeah, I've got workarounds in place already, thanks |
| 01:04.47 | future28 | Just hoped that an upgrade would solve it but I guess not |
| 01:05.40 | spTollway | test in another computer but if you are finding lots of other posts with same issue - you gots a bad card? |
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| 01:16.24 | future28 | spTollway: Seems to be an issue with the chip going into a powersave state |
| 01:16.30 | future28 | I'll disable that as a workaround |
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| 01:40.22 | Lewoco | What is the name of the 3-way diff format that is shown when aptitude is prompting for configuration file upgrades? |
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| 01:46.44 | Lewoco | Ok I think it might be something like diff3 -e |
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| 01:49.58 | iAdam1n | Why does tzdata set the time 4 minutes slow? How can I fix it? |
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| 01:59.18 | srg | iAdam1n: You can use ntpdate to instantly sync your time via NTP. Or, you can run a NTP daemon such as NTPd or OpenNTPd to automatically sync your time. |
| 01:59.40 | iAdam1n | I realised it won't allow me to as it's a VPS but thanks. Going to contact the providor |
| 01:59.42 | iAdam1n | date: cannot set date: Operation not permitted |
| 01:59.44 | iAdam1n | I got that |
| 02:00.01 | srg | Oh, yeah. If it's a VPS, the clock is controlled by the host server. |
| 02:00.04 | srg | You can't set it. |
| 02:01.10 | iAdam1n | thanks |
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| 02:38.04 | dvs | linuxuz3r: ldd <program-name> |
| 02:38.28 | dvs | linuxuz3r: better yet, file <program-name> |
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| 03:18.22 | mrbond006 | GUYS I HAVE A PROBLEM WITH MY DEBIAN |
| 03:18.23 | mrbond006 | HELP ME |
| 03:18.44 | mrbond006 | MY CAPS KEY IS STUCKKK |
| 03:18.56 | mrbond006 | GUYS? |
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| 03:19.08 | mrbond006 | ????????????? |
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| 03:52.41 | armin | Use of uninitialized value in string eq at /usr/sbin/update-rc.d line 490. |
| 03:52.44 | armin | is that a known one? |
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| 03:53.15 | armin | bug reports belonging to that are from 2013 so can't really believe it. |
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| 03:59.56 | bigterd | anyone here try building their own bootable debian? i need to add some packages for a special install/run scenario, seems like the 10 differnt tutorials i've found are dead ends |
| 04:00.39 | bigterd | only alternative is to add a partition on the pen drive and use apt-get to save the *deb and depdencies locally |
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| 04:06.01 | gravy_ | Hello, I get "Missing operating system" When I boot. |
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| 04:22.02 | The_Schmidt | gravy_: did you just install? |
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| 04:41.33 | kWO901 | is there any difference between apt-get and aptitude ? |
| 04:41.55 | glogic | kWO901: A few. |
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| 04:42.46 | un214 | I'm just waiting for the storm |
| 04:42.55 | kWO901 | glogic: like what |
| 04:44.47 | glogic | kWO901: Apt-Get is (more or less) a front end for aptitude. You can just run "aptitude" from the command line. Try that for starters. |
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| 04:45.27 | kWO901 | glogic: I tought they are the same |
| 04:45.55 | kWO901 | glogic: so I should always use aptitude instead? |
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| 04:46.14 | glogic | kWO901: Read the man pages, and start aptitude by itself from the command line to learn more. :) |
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| 04:51.12 | kWO901 | glogic: if i want to upgrade my system. should I use "apt-get dist-upgrade " or "sudo aptitude full-upgrade"? |
| 04:51.55 | glogic | kWO901: Personally, I use aptitude for everything. You might prefer apt-get. It's up to you really. |
| 04:52.13 | bigterd | anyone here try building their own bootable debian? i need to add some packages for a special install/run scenario, seems like the 10 differnt tutorials i've found are dead ends. recommendations? |
| 04:52.26 | bigterd | only alternative is to add a partition on the pen drive and use apt-get to save the *deb and depdencies locally |
| 04:52.50 | kWO901 | glogic: but both commands named above would do the exact same thing. right? |
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| 04:53.15 | glogic | kWO901: Functionally equivalent, yes. |
| 04:53.29 | kWO901 | glogic: thanks what i needed to know. thank you |
| 04:53.36 | kWO901 | thats* |
| 04:53.38 | glogic | kWO901: :D |
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| 04:59.42 | aphorise | Can any1 recommend a large file to download so as to test my connection for longer than 10 sec period? |
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| 05:01.11 | bigterd | aphorise: wget -r google.com |
| 05:01.19 | trysten | how do i specify my system to use icons? i have installed pcmanfm and it has no icons for folders or anything |
| 05:01.29 | trysten | i think i just need to tell gtk where icons are |
| 05:01.38 | aphorise | bigterd thats too small wanted like an iso or something big |
| 05:01.56 | Artemis3 | get the debian isos :P |
| 05:02.01 | bigterd | wget -r debian.org |
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| 05:04.02 | trysten | trying gtk-chtheme. i think it will solve my problem by writing a ~/.xdg-2.0.mine |
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| 05:25.39 | kalin00b | on my alienware when i was at someones house the spdif light was on and my sound wasnt working they kept making jokes about streaming me and i thought they were just jokes when i get home it works and no light. IM VERY PARANOID PERSON. i rebooted several times at their house with no change over here i reboot it still works |
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| 05:26.08 | kalin00b | or is this odd behavior? |
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| 05:27.47 | The_Schmidt | that awkward silence |
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| 05:29.03 | The_Schmidt | does anyone know where the apt script comes from? the one that pulls options from both apt-get and aptitude? |
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| 05:30.15 | The_Schmidt | it is written in python but has no comments in it |
| 05:30.34 | The_Schmidt | mine is at: /usr/local/bin/apt |
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| 05:36.52 | The_Schmidt | nobody uses apt? |
| 05:38.52 | The_Schmidt | who wrote this thing? |
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| 05:41.06 | Rusty1 | get the source and see |
| 05:41.24 | The_Schmidt | source has no comments in it |
| 05:42.59 | aphorise | The_Schmidt https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Packaging_Tool |
| 05:43.02 | Rusty1 | visit the debian page for the package and see who the maintainers are |
| 05:43.12 | The_Schmidt | o i found it with 'apt show apt' |
| 05:43.26 | aphorise | Amazing what you can find on wiki if you just try :-) |
| 05:43.28 | The_Schmidt | why didn't i check that one before |
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| 07:23.02 | sonofanoob | hey guys, when i `fakeroot make-kpkg --initrd --revision=grsec.3.201502052350 kernel_image` i get "Error: The revision string may only contain alphanumerics and the characters ~ + ." so on to "The current value is: grsec.3.2 Aborting." what am i doing wrong? |
| 07:23.49 | sonofanoob | debian jessie though |
| 07:24.35 | sonofanoob | Aborting. |
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| 07:42.13 | nkuttler | brlog: btw, see man 5 logind.conf to change system'd power button behavior |
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| 07:52.03 | blast_hardcheese | Kind of a strange problem, but it seems like SLiM in Jessie just spawns over whatever VTs it wants to |
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| 07:52.49 | blast_hardcheese | It starts on VT2, then the next time SLiM starts it jumps to 3, then 4 |
| 07:53.17 | blast_hardcheese | the VTs left behind are mangled and broken |
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| 07:53.44 | blast_hardcheese | I installed lightdm which doesn't exhibit this problem, but now I'm using lightdm, which I do not prefer |
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| 08:02.18 | Pinchiukas | I did a "find /var/lib/dpkg/ -type f | grep -E '\.list$' | xargs file" and a lot of the lines say that the file contains "data" which pretty much means it's corrupted. Is my FS borked or something? |
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| 08:21.19 | nkuttler | hrm.. so data loss bugs are grave according to https://www.debian.org/Bugs/Developer, but reportbug tells me only "serious data loss" is grave. which one is it? |
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| 08:30.30 | nkuttler | (does non-serious data loss even exist?) |
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| 08:36.07 | nkuttler | oh actually, never mind. serious data loss is for critical |
| 08:36.09 | brlog | nkuttler: I found that, thanks. I also found an example how to execute a screen locker before suspending. :) |
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| 08:36.24 | nkuttler | brlog: great |
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| 08:36.30 | nkuttler | i'm just writing a bug report fwiw |
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| 08:39.19 | brlog | nkuttler: When I saw acpi installed, I thought systemd might not be, actually, but I am quite new to Linux. |
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| 09:17.39 | anonnumberanon | To install xvidcap I get the following error after./configure configure: error: GNU gettext tools not found; required for intltool. I checked and I do have gettext installed, does this happen because I'm trying to install this in my home folder? |
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| 09:23.58 | valdyn | anonnumberanon: configure scripts typically give an error message that refers to the whole package (gettext) while in debian these things are split into one -dev package and the runtime stuff |
| 09:24.16 | valdyn | anonnumberanon: so you probably miss the -dev package |
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| 09:27.43 | anonnumberanon | valdyn, yes I don't see it |
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| 10:03.19 | owen1 | "import -window root screenshot.png" take screenshot of my built-in screen but also of my external monitor. how to capture only my built in screen? |
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| 10:04.11 | owen1 | i try adding -display eDP1 but got eror with X server |
| 10:04.38 | anonnumberanon | checking for PACKAGE... configure: error: Package requirements (gtk+-2.0 >= 2.4.0 libglade-2.0 glib-2.0 gthread-2.0) were not met: |
| 10:04.44 | anonnumberanon | How can I fix this? |
| 10:04.44 | nkuttler | owen1: display is for which x server to use |
| 10:04.48 | owen1 | nkuttler: oh |
| 10:05.04 | nkuttler | anonnumberanon: paste.debian.net command + entire output |
| 10:05.06 | anonnumberanon | In wheezy. |
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| 10:05.13 | anonnumberanon | okay |
| 10:05.19 | nkuttler | ,v gtk+-2.0 |
| 10:05.21 | judd | No package named 'gtk+-2.0' was found in i386. |
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| 10:05.46 | valdyn | ,v libgtk2.0-dev |
| 10:05.47 | judd | Package: libgtk2.0-dev on i386 -- squeeze: 2.20.1-2; wheezy: 2.24.10-2; jessie: 2.24.25-1; sid: 2.24.25-1 |
| 10:05.48 | anonnumberanon | http://paste.debian.net/144405/ |
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| 10:06.51 | nkuttler | anonnumberanon: there is no command, and that doesn't look like the complete output either? |
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| 10:08.15 | anonnumberanon | Just the lines that went wront or the entire output of ./configure ? |
| 10:08.19 | anonnumberanon | nkuttler, ? |
| 10:08.44 | valdyn | anonnumberanon: just install libgtk2.0-dev |
| 10:08.45 | nkuttler | anonnumberanon: what are you trying to build? |
| 10:08.52 | nkuttler | ^^ |
| 10:09.59 | anonnumberanon | I'm trying to install xvidcap |
| 10:10.08 | gravy_ | Hello, I am here for the 100th time - can somebody PLEASE help me install Debian on my laptop? |
| 10:10.24 | gravy_ | Every time there is a myriad of boot problems. |
| 10:10.49 | anonnumberanon | valdyn, nkuttler libgtk2.0-dev is already installed |
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| 10:11.07 | gravy_ | I have been trying to do this since the summer until I gave up and installed Mint. |
| 10:11.48 | anonnumberanon | This is my full output. |
| 10:11.53 | anonnumberanon | http://paste.debian.net/144408/' |
| 10:12.00 | anonnumberanon | http://paste.debian.net/144408/ |
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| 10:12.39 | nkuttler | anonnumberanon: is there no README that tells you which requirements there are? |
| 10:12.49 | valdyn | anonnumberanon: install "libglade2-dev", see if that helps |
| 10:13.22 | gravy_ | Is this some well known fact that Debian cannot be installed on Asus laptops and hence no one will help me? |
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| 10:13.40 | anonnumberanon | valdyn, already have |
| 10:13.50 | nkuttler | gravy_: we can't help unless you ask specific questions |
| 10:14.29 | anonnumberanon | gravy_, what is the model of the computer? |
| 10:14.36 | valdyn | libgladeui-dev |
| 10:14.42 | gravy_ | Okay. I'm going to reinstall it for the 5th time tonight. I specified an ext4 partition on #1 and an EFI boot partition under it. |
| 10:14.44 | gravy_ | Asus? |
| 10:15.14 | nkuttler | gravy_: what went wrong with the previous installs? |
| 10:15.21 | anonnumberanon | valdyn, ah that I did not have |
| 10:15.41 | gravy_ | First it could not find normal.mod even though it was in /boot/grub - I checked with a live CD. Then it said "Missing operating system". |
| 10:15.44 | anonnumberanon | no gravy_ that is not a model, that is a brand |
| 10:15.50 | gravy_ | Then it said "Please select a proper boot device". |
| 10:15.58 | anonnumberanon | Asus makes thousands of models of things |
| 10:16.07 | nkuttler | gravy_: fwiw, it's worth trying without efi |
| 10:16.37 | gravy_ | That is what I did at first. |
| 10:17.02 | gravy_ | I'm going to flip my laptop over and give you the code on the bottom. It's installing atm. |
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| 10:17.36 | anonnumberanon | gravy_, I thought it failed to install |
| 10:17.43 | gravy_ | It says - N56JR-CN1610 |
| 10:17.56 | gravy_ | Fails to boot every time. |
| 10:18.01 | gravy_ | Is that the right code? |
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| 10:19.01 | gravy_ | Also there is E6N0BC001914234 AND 36M and CK: 4137 |
| 10:19.13 | anonnumberanon | gravy_, did you remove Windows |
| 10:19.24 | anonnumberanon | does that even matter? don't know |
| 10:19.31 | gravy_ | No. |
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| 10:19.37 | gravy_ | It exists on a separate partition. |
| 10:19.43 | gravy_ | I want to have it on dualboot. |
| 10:19.58 | anonnumberanon | I only know how to install in non-EFI , "legacy mode" or something |
| 10:20.11 | gravy_ | (y) |
| 10:20.19 | anonnumberanon | I just disable EFI in the bios but it may break your Windows start, I really don't know. |
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| 10:21.11 | gravy_ | I don't have a "Disable EFI" option. |
| 10:21.14 | anonnumberanon | With newer laptops they started making it difficult to install Linux but I'm not sure if it is only that EFI thing and if it permanently changed, if not permanent and you can change it in the laptop's bios, then it is very doable. |
| 10:21.17 | gravy_ | - first of all. |
| 10:21.30 | anonnumberanon | gravy_, you're telling me that after having checked your bios? |
| 10:21.36 | gravy_ | Yes. |
| 10:21.36 | anonnumberanon | did you check your bios? |
| 10:21.40 | anonnumberanon | ah okay |
| 10:22.00 | gravy_ | I did that yesterday. I did everything I could think to do. |
| 10:23.04 | anonnumberanon | Did you see the option "secure boot" in the bios?' |
| 10:23.19 | gravy_ | Yes. |
| 10:23.23 | anonnumberanon | I think that needs to be turned off. |
| 10:23.37 | gravy_ | And I have seen a message that "Secure boot is off" when booting live Mint. |
| 10:23.57 | anonnumberanon | Check in your bios right now. |
| 10:24.32 | gravy_ | I can't atm I am re-installing Debian to make sure that my laptop did not shut down due to low battery mid-install. 27% |
| 10:24.43 | anonnumberanon | hehe |
| 10:24.59 | gravy_ | Because I fell asleep during the install. |
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| 10:27.21 | anonnumberanon | nkuttler, valdyn I get "No package 'libglade-2.0' found. When I check my packages all I see is libgtk2-gladexml-perl and that is installed, is that the package that Linux is telling me I don't have or do I need to somehow find how to acquire libglade-2.0? |
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| 10:28.51 | anonnumberanon | libglade2-dev was what I needed I think |
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| 10:32.55 | Justice | Anybody here familiar with setting up FileBot on Debian? |
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| 10:41.03 | anonnumberanon | So guys thanks you vm for helping, the program is installed now. nkuttler valdyn |
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| 10:42.57 | bipul | There is a command tr which shuffle and translate the alphabet. I would like to know that , am i allow to set a certain parameter to translate a un meaningful word into meaningful. for example i have "Vrphwklqj phdqlqixo" And i want to set a parameter in tr with A ->.D, a->d, M->P, m->p, X->A , x->a |
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| 10:45.34 | nkuttler | bipul: not sure what your question is. tr deals with characters, not words |
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| 10:47.12 | bipul | I am sorry, i mean character here. |
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| 10:48.28 | nkuttler | bipul: what do you mean by parameter? translating characters is exactly what tr does |
| 10:48.57 | nkuttler | eg tr AaMmXx DdPpAa |
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| 10:51.15 | bipul | tr a-zA-Z d-za-cD-ZA-C <<< "Vrphwklqj phdqlqixo" could you explain me what are this a-zA-Z d-za-cD-ZA-C? |
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| 10:51.54 | nkuttler | bipul: have you checked man tr yet? |
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| 10:52.23 | bipul | yes |
| 10:52.47 | nkuttler | bipul: that's multiple CHAR1-CHAR2 |
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| 10:55.50 | bipul | nkuttler, , I am trying to find out a pattern inside this message "Vrphwklqj phdqlqixo". It has some relation with A ->D, a->d, M->P, m->p, X->A , x->a |
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| 10:58.36 | gravy_ | HELLO |
| 10:58.39 | gravy_ | I finished installation. |
| 10:58.45 | ger1e | Hello |
| 10:58.46 | tremon | bipul: tr is not a cryptography tool. If you want to break a character substitution cipher, you need at the very least a dictionary of the suspected language. I doubt you can easily find a tool for your purpose |
| 10:58.47 | gravy_ | Now it says "Reboot and Select a proper Boot device" |
| 10:58.54 | gravy_ | What do I do? |
| 10:58.58 | ger1e | Anybody who can help me out with my problems? |
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| 10:59.05 | ger1e | I'm mad as hell |
| 10:59.23 | phy1729 | ger1e: just ask your question |
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| 11:00.22 | gravy_ | nkuttler |
| 11:00.36 | gravy_ | anonnumberanon |
| 11:00.40 | nkuttler | gravy_: where does that output come from? |
| 11:00.53 | gravy_ | The screen when I turn on my computer after the BIOS screen. |
| 11:01.49 | anonnumberanon | gravy_, okay I assume you set the boot order in the bios to run from usb first? |
| 11:01.55 | gravy_ | What usb? |
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| 11:02.05 | nkuttler | gravy_: sounds like your efi partitions are not recognized |
| 11:02.10 | gravy_ | No, first the HDD, second DVD |
| 11:02.18 | anonnumberanon | gravy_, nvm so to boot first from the hard drive |
| 11:02.20 | gravy_ | DVD is not inserted. |
| 11:02.27 | anonnumberanon | yes |
| 11:02.33 | gravy_ | HDD is first on the list. |
| 11:02.54 | Justice | Could anybody assist me in setting up a program? |
| 11:03.00 | anonnumberanon | so for that i don't know anymore i think nkuttler may be on the right path though |
| 11:03.11 | anonnumberanon | Justice, which one? |
| 11:03.15 | Justice | FileBot |
| 11:03.43 | Justice | I've been able to install Java 8 on the server, but don't know where to go from here |
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| 11:04.44 | ger1e | Guys help me please |
| 11:04.57 | ger1e | I bought 2 gigs of DDR2 into my old system running Jessie |
| 11:04.58 | anonnumberanon | Justice, maybe install from http://sourceforge.net/projects/filebot/files/latest/download and then type sh filebot.sh |
| 11:05.10 | ger1e | Put it into near the 512 that already was there |
| 11:05.14 | ger1e | And now it keeps freezing |
| 11:05.17 | ger1e | And restarting |
| 11:05.26 | ger1e | especially when a browser is open |
| 11:05.31 | Justice | anonnumberanon: do i get the portable, embedded, or debian package? |
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| 11:06.08 | anonnumberanon | Justice, none of these three choices show up for me. |
| 11:06.09 | Justice | i know that sounds dumb, but another page said get the portable package and that didn't seem right |
| 11:06.16 | anonnumberanon | Just that one Download button. |
| 11:06.34 | anonnumberanon | then you see that you get an sh file inside which is always makes it easier to install things |
| 11:06.35 | Justice | anonnumberanon: http://screencast.com/t/twjijD9EZw |
| 11:07.04 | tremon | ger1e: install memtest86, reboot and let it run overnight. Sounds like your memory is defective |
| 11:07.26 | ger1e | the new one? |
| 11:07.26 | anonnumberanon | ah you did not go to my link? so get the "Debian packages" and make sure you get the correct architecture between 386 and amd64, do you know how |
| 11:07.29 | ger1e | or the old? |
| 11:07.33 | anonnumberanon | Justice, |
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| 11:07.48 | Justice | anonnumberanon: i'm kinda clueless when it comes to nix |
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| 11:08.10 | tremon | ger1e: there's no way to tell until you run memtest86 with only the new and only the old |
| 11:08.24 | Justice | and getting my full-service server people to do it for me is like pulling teeth |
| 11:08.29 | anonnumberanon | Justice, you're running debian right? |
| 11:08.36 | Justice | they'll tell me step by step but just won't do it for me |
| 11:08.37 | Justice | yes |
| 11:08.51 | anonnumberanon | so you know what architecture you are running or no? |
| 11:08.56 | Justice | let me ssh |
| 11:09.12 | Justice | amd64 |
| 11:09.28 | anonnumberanon | there you go so you got no GUI correct? |
| 11:09.32 | Justice | none |
| 11:10.39 | Justice | anonnumberanon: fyi, this is what feral is saying: https://www.feralhosting.com/faq/view?question=256 |
| 11:10.43 | anonnumberanon | dpkg -i package-file-name yourfileyoujustdownloaded |
| 11:10.43 | dpkg | installs package-file-name yourfileyoujustdownloaded into anonnumberanon's head with a bone saw and a few screws |
| 11:10.51 | anonnumberanon | heh |
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| 11:11.15 | anonnumberanon | Justice, do that, may need sudo, careful when you install stuff from the internet with sudo (root) |
| 11:11.42 | celexi | wait |
| 11:11.46 | Justice | anonnumberanon: it's an old version and when I tried putting in the new version number in the path it just did nothing |
| 11:11.49 | celexi | dpkg isn't going to resolve dependencies |
| 11:11.50 | dpkg | celexi: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about |
| 11:12.04 | celexi | if you need that you should not use dpkg |
| 11:13.06 | Justice | also is there a command to get a list of directories? |
| 11:13.21 | Justice | even if I get it installed, no idea where to point it to |
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| 11:16.07 | gravy_ | Can someone help me? Reboot and select proper boot device |
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| 11:18.26 | nkuttler | gravy_: like i said, it sounds like your system doesn't recognize your drives/partitions. i don't use uefi myself, i can't help with this |
| 11:18.48 | gravy_ | Okay |
| 11:18.49 | gravy_ | then |
| 11:18.50 | gravy_ | well |
| 11:18.53 | gravy_ | Im going to shoot myself, |
| 11:19.01 | nkuttler | have fun |
| 11:19.11 | gravy_ | :C |
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| 11:23.00 | gravy_ | Serouly what do I do? |
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| 11:26.59 | tete_ | i have debian running inside virtualbox but dont get any sound (i use hdmi). is there a simple way to loop through all devices and put out some "white noise" so i can see if its just the wrong device which is in use? |
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| 11:30.42 | iveevue | tete_, Using KDE? |
| 11:31.02 | tete_ | lxde in the guest, on the host there is no X |
| 11:31.25 | tete_ | the host is nearly a regular minimal install ... well not anymore but it was :P |
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| 11:31.37 | mrMute | for the noize: aplay /dev/urandom |
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| 11:35.33 | mrMute | an easy way to check your sound settings on the command line is 'alsamixer' |
| 11:35.58 | mrMute | you can switch interfaces using F6 |
| 11:36.08 | andreas | um... package wine32: state: not a real package, is provided by wine32 |
| 11:36.20 | jpinx | I'm looking at getting a x86 tablet and putting linux on it. I know Debian doesn't support touchscreen and ooboontoo does, but I'd be using a wireless kbd. Anyone any experience or tips? |
| 11:36.21 | andreas | is that some transient testing business? |
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| 11:38.30 | andreas | oh, never mind, it seems i can install it anyway |
| 11:38.48 | tremon | andreas: you should be using wine:i386 |
| 11:38.58 | tremon | !tell andreas about multiarch |
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| 11:39.34 | eyebrowns | how to patch kde2 under freebsd? |
| 11:39.54 | andreas | tremon: thanks, i already did that, and i guess wine32 points to wine:i386 anyway |
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| 11:40.27 | sandman13 | eyebrowns: wrong channel I guess ask #freebsd |
| 11:40.29 | andreas | at least when i tried to install it it dragged along a lot of 32bit libraries, so i guess it's ok |
| 11:40.41 | eyebrowns | sandman13, :) |
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| 11:47.53 | patsToms | morning |
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| 11:51.31 | tete_ | mrMute, when i try that command it gives me: aplay: set_params:1233: Sample format non available |
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| 11:52.56 | tete_ | alsamixer just prints a ncurses UI with some wierd symbols, with spdif 1 and spdif, but nothing to configure anything (when using the hdmi out) |
| 11:53.12 | tete_ | the mainboard realtek card can be configured but thats not used as i use hdmi |
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| 11:59.44 | SynrG | tete_: no volume sliders sounds like hdmi isn't properly supported on that card |
| 11:59.47 | SynrG | missing firmware? |
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| 11:59.57 | tete_ | umm... how can i check that? |
| 12:00.06 | SynrG | kernel too old? |
| 12:00.27 | tete_ | no |
| 12:00.29 | SynrG | what card is it? ati? nvidia? |
| 12:00.34 | tete_ | amd 5350 onboard |
| 12:00.43 | tete_ | Linux hypervisor 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt2-1 (2014-12-08) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
| 12:01.15 | tete_ | the board is a asrock am1h itx |
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| 12:03.59 | SynrG | using the free radeon driver? |
| 12:04.10 | SynrG | got firmware-linux-nonfree installed? |
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| 12:06.56 | tete_ | ii firmware-linux-nonfree 0.43 all |
| 12:07.33 | Humie | I did a minimal installation, now i get the default keyring popup up, (meaning it's not unlocked with my login password) any help?? |
| 12:07.36 | SynrG | booted with radeon.audio=1 ? |
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| 12:07.57 | tete_ | BOOT_IMAGE=/vmlinuz-3.16.0-4-amd64 root=/dev/mapper/cryptovg-root ro quiet |
| 12:07.59 | SynrG | tete_: according to http://www.x.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/ the default value is 0 |
| 12:08.12 | jazz | help |
| 12:08.12 | tete_ | hmm ok so just adding this should work? |
| 12:08.16 | tete_ | i will try :) |
| 12:08.21 | SynrG | tete_: maybe. |
| 12:08.59 | jazz | anybody here |
| 12:09.36 | SynrG | !ask |
| 12:09.36 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 12:10.44 | zrafa | Hi, I installed MATE desktop in my Debian system. I want a default theme to be system wide for all users. Does somebody know how to do that? |
| 12:10.48 | zrafa | help! :) |
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| 12:11.10 | zrafa | sorry, no deault theme. A specific theme to be default |
| 12:11.35 | tete_ | SynrG, ok i started now with radeon.audio=1 |
| 12:11.53 | tete_ | now test alsamixer... |
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| 12:12.06 | tete_ | hm no.. i make a screenshot |
| 12:13.13 | Humie | I did a minimal installation, now i get the default keyring popup up, (meaning it's not unlocked with my login password) any help on making it working as it should? |
| 12:13.19 | tete_ | http://fs2.directupload.net/images/150207/37r8xf3x.png |
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| 12:13.45 | SynrG | tete_: so they are both muted. nothing happens if you unmute? |
| 12:13.55 | tete_ | but thats spdif, isnt it? |
| 12:14.03 | SynrG | tete_: press 'm' to toggle mute |
| 12:14.18 | tete_ | and now aplay /dev/urandom? |
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| 12:14.45 | SynrG | tete_: sure |
| 12:15.02 | tete_ | aplay: set_params:1233: Sample format non available |
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| 12:16.54 | SynrG | tete_: don't know. there's also 'speaker-test' |
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| 12:17.03 | SynrG | maybe it just hates 8khz |
| 12:17.18 | SynrG | that's aplay's default |
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| 12:18.06 | tete_ | have now a .wav example and it seems like it would play, but no sound |
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| 12:19.45 | SynrG | tete_: or aplay -f cd /dev/urandom which would try 44khz |
| 12:19.55 | SynrG | 44.1 |
| 12:20.06 | SynrG | in any case ... i dunno. i'm no alsa wizard |
| 12:20.24 | SynrG | maybe #alsa would be more help to you |
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| 12:20.35 | tete_ | hm ok |
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| 12:20.55 | tete_ | Playing WAVE 'a2002011001-e02.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo |
| 12:20.55 | tete_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:21.03 | tete_ | but no sound unfortunately... then i will try in #alsa |
| 12:21.05 | tete_ | thanks anyway |
| 12:21.10 | SynrG | yep. np |
| 12:21.19 | SynrG | i've often seen for hdmi just toggles and no sliders ... |
| 12:21.23 | SynrG | i don't know what that means |
| 12:21.46 | phix | When's Jessie coming out? |
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| 12:22.12 | SynrG | i have few systems where i actually use hdmi. on the one system where i do, it's the integrated hdmi on the mb, not the graphics card's hdmi |
| 12:23.36 | SynrG | tete_: the support matrix for the radeon driver claims hdmi audio support for that card, but ... i don't know in which kernel version# it was added |
| 12:23.57 | tete_ | sorry it is integrated |
| 12:24.05 | SynrG | tete_: footnote 22 just says, vaguely: 22 Older kernels require loading radeon with the audio parameter set to 1 (e.g., add radeon.audio=1 on the kernel command line in grub). |
| 12:24.09 | tete_ | its a asrock am1h itx with amd 5350, so no extra graphic card |
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| 12:25.05 | SynrG | tete_: sorry, i meant specifically integrated *Intel* |
| 12:25.08 | SynrG | which works fine for me |
| 12:25.33 | tete_ | ah ok |
| 12:25.47 | SynrG | tete_: it's likely that radeon.audio=1 is not needed in your case since you don't have an "older kernel" |
| 12:28.00 | SynrG | tete_: for the intel card, s/pdif are just toggles. but it also has slider for Master, PCM, etc. ... |
| 12:30.43 | SynrG | oh, for evergreen it says in footnote 23, "Kernel 3.3 required". sounds like you have that covered |
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| 12:31.42 | SynrG | tete_: just to clarify, does sound work on the host? are we debugging on the host or the guest? |
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| 12:35.53 | tete_ | SynrG, host is not working, so guest can not work |
| 12:36.12 | SynrG | tete_: so all the output you've shown is with a debian host? |
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| 12:40.36 | tete_ | yes SynrG |
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| 12:40.56 | SynrG | tete_: and the kernel on that is 3.16 as you showed before? |
| 12:41.10 | tete_ | yes |
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| 12:44.17 | Eryn_1983_FL | wondering if its a debian issues, |
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| 12:46.46 | inneed | hello |
| 12:47.02 | inneed | whats the difference between debian-live-7.8.0-i386-standard.iso.torrent and the gnome version? |
| 12:49.05 | sandman13 | inneed: Burn it and use it without installing on to your hard drive -> Live |
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| 12:49.22 | sandman13 | inneed: GNOME is the desktop environment |
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| 12:53.51 | inneed | sandman13: so even if i choose the standard version will i get the GNOME desktop(Thats what i want)? and is it GUI installer? |
| 12:54.18 | inneed | Also will the packages of these two different iso files be the same? |
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| 12:56.08 | sandman13 | inneed: If you want to test Debian 7.8 then you can use Live iso with GNOME desktop |
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| 12:56.57 | sandman13 | if you like it you can install it from there or download standard iso or netinstall iso and install it |
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| 13:01.13 | sandman13 | inneed: The standard isos have all the packages which would be ideal if you have slow internet. |
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| 13:02.14 | sandman13 | while Live isos have limited set of packages. Other than that there is almost no difference |
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| 13:06.51 | tremon | I wouldn't count on "standard" being the gnome one, as it's 800MB smaller than gnome-desktop.iso |
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| 13:07.29 | tremon | https://www.debian.org/CD/live/ says: "two text console flavors: rescue and standard" |
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| 13:22.06 | Komanda | wget http://debian.osuosl.org/debian-cdimage/current/i386/iso-cd/debian-504-i386-businesscard.iso |
| 13:22.13 | Komanda | HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 404 Not Found 2015-02-07 13:21:44 ERROR 404: Not Found. |
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| 13:22.24 | Komanda | i'm following a tutorial |
| 13:22.32 | Komanda | what would be the best drop in replacement? |
| 13:22.56 | SynrG | businesscard is discontinued |
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| 13:23.08 | SynrG | and in any case why are you interested in debian 5? it's ancient. |
| 13:23.18 | tremon | you're following a tutorial for a debian release that's 6 years old |
| 13:23.19 | SynrG | debian 7 is current. |
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| 13:23.42 | SynrG | Komanda: please describe what you want to accomplish today, and not how you think it might be accomplished |
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| 13:23.59 | Komanda | http://blog.muhuk.com/2010/07/07/how-to-create-a-debian-vm-with-qemu.html |
| 13:24.05 | SynrG | no |
| 13:24.12 | SynrG | i'm not even going to read that |
| 13:24.13 | Komanda | SynrG: virtualize debian on top of debian with qemu |
| 13:24.34 | SynrG | ok. |
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| 13:25.21 | Komanda | the tutorial uses http://debian.osuosl.org/debian-cdimage/current/i386/iso-cd/debian-504-i386-businesscard.iso |
| 13:25.48 | Komanda | what would be an appropriate drop in replacement for that link since it no longer works |
| 13:26.08 | SynrG | no. don't use 6 year old guides |
| 13:26.18 | SynrG | the software may very well have changed |
| 13:26.22 | tremon | the tutorial also uses qemu and the -hda -boot options. Neither of them work anymore |
| 13:26.39 | Komanda | does qemu no longer work? |
| 13:26.42 | SynrG | so there is no "drop in replacement" here that will work with that guide |
| 13:26.52 | SynrG | no. you're using a 6 year old guide. don't do that. |
| 13:27.02 | SynrG | why are you so hell bent on using that tutorial? |
| 13:27.26 | Komanda | why does qemu no longer work? |
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| 13:27.46 | tremon | it does, but you need to call it as qemu-system-x86 iirc |
| 13:27.49 | SynrG | what? i didn't say that. |
| 13:28.34 | SynrG | why don't you start with qemu's own documentation instead? |
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| 13:28.56 | SynrG | qemu has lots of useful and not-out-of-date HOWTOs here: |
| 13:29.03 | SynrG | http://wiki.qemu.org/Manual |
| 13:29.35 | SynrG | finds that randomly searching the web for HOWTOs and ignoring the date of the article is generally a failing strategy |
| 13:29.43 | SynrG | learn how to use the internet better. |
| 13:31.08 | Komanda | SynrG: i don't see a guide on that page how to do i386 or x86_64 debian on debian |
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| 13:32.42 | SynrG | what makes you think that would be radically different from using qemu in general? |
| 13:33.14 | SynrG | learn from similar examples. |
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| 13:35.52 | Komanda | or just from the tutorial i gave you |
| 13:36.05 | Komanda | already found a dop in replacement of the latest debian that workd with the tutorial |
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| 13:38.31 | SynrG | or look at https://wiki.debian.org/QEMU |
| 13:38.51 | SynrG | good luck following out of date tutorials |
| 13:39.22 | SynrG | i've lost interest in helping further until you decide using recent documentation is the better strategy |
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| 13:40.19 | makafsal | hi, how to setup my hp printer laserjet p1006 |
| 13:40.39 | makafsal | its shows an error: |
| 13:40.39 | makafsal | warning: No PPD found for model laserjet_p1006 using new algorithm. Trying old algorithm... |
| 13:40.42 | makafsal | error: No PPD found for model laserjet_p1006 using old algorithm. |
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| 13:40.44 | makafsal | error: Unable to find an appropriate PPD file. |
| 13:40.54 | makafsal | how to solve this, please help me |
| 13:40.55 | bierdieb | ive downloaded debian7.8 live install image and dd it to my usb stick. the usb stick is not recognized as boot device. so i checked it using gparted. gparted says the filesystem is unknown. any tipp what im doing wrong? |
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| 13:42.28 | xreal | Anyone with an idea, how dpkg hooks work? http://pastie.org/pastes/9893699/text |
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| 13:43.45 | Komanda | SynrG: thank you for that link, using it now <3 |
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| 13:45.05 | Komanda | the "qemu-img create" stuff works fine however simply doing " qemu -v" gives me "-bash: qemu: command not found" |
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| 13:45.29 | Komanda | SynrG: what are the things i could do to fix this |
| 13:45.50 | niteye | hello, i have a samba share with samba users and specific permissions, works great if you use smb:// or use windows to go on it. but a linux user can mount it with "mount -t cifd" and override all security of the filesystem since he's root he can get to any file, what's the reason for this? how come samba security is overridden ? |
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| 13:46.08 | pdrz | hi, how can I image from a file then move it to floppy? |
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| 13:46.54 | niteye | mount /dev/fd0 /mnt;mv /home/pdrz/yourfile /mnt;umount /mnt |
| 13:47.08 | niteye | the file has to be small enough to fit on the floppy obviously |
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| 13:50.20 | pdrz | niteye: not copy files, just make iso |
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| 13:51.20 | niteye | i think dd if=/dev/fd0 of=/home/pdrz/floppy.img might do the trick, and you can do the opposite to write the image to a different floppy |
| 13:52.09 | Komanda | after doing debian reinstall apt-get qemu, qemu-img -h works but qemu -v doesn't, why is this |
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| 13:52.20 | Komanda | apt-get install emu* |
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| 13:56.09 | quitte | Hi. on my computer the efivars module is not loadable. This is most definately a 64 bit efi system. Win7 is installed on GPT partitioned hdd,too. Fedora has no problem loading efivars. Any idea how to get efibootmgr to work from debian? |
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| 14:00.09 | pdrz | niteye: ok |
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| 14:01.57 | SynrG | Komanda: tremon already answered that. |
| 14:02.09 | SynrG | <tremon> it does, but you need to call it as qemu-system-x86 iirc |
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| 14:02.50 | SynrG | Komanda: and that's where the primary documentation from the project itself is helpful. qemu comes with man pages, and the website describes the current version. |
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| 14:03.22 | SynrG | the qemu website i mean |
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| 14:04.58 | SynrG | Komanda: which debian release are you on? |
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| 14:05.47 | SynrG | the wiki typically (but not always) describes the current stable release, except where noted in the wiki page. using the wiki revision history will show you how out of date it is |
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| 14:06.03 | SynrG | i see it, too, refers to the obsolete businesscard iso. that's unfortunate. |
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| 14:07.21 | Komanda | SynrG: i think i got something working |
| 14:07.22 | SynrG | but fortunately, it's a wiki, so we can fix that. however, i only have jessie/sid systems on hand to test ... |
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| 14:07.40 | SynrG | i would want to test the instructions on wheezy before attempting to update that page. |
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| 14:10.04 | inneed | sandman13: thanks a lot for the info :) :) |
| 14:10.23 | SynrG | he's gone |
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| 14:15.23 | Komanda | SynrG: i have it working, thank you so much <33333 |
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| 14:21.35 | tete_ | SynrG, i got it working with someone from #alsa |
| 14:21.52 | tete_ | the problem was somehow the hdmi->tv ... now i use spdif out of the mainboard from the server -> DAC -> amp |
| 14:21.56 | tete_ | works like a charm |
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| 14:23.12 | Komanda | when i do -enable-kvm i get: Could not access KVM kernel module: No such file or directory failed to initialize KVM: No such file or directory |
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| 14:24.43 | SynrG | tete_: excellent |
| 14:24.46 | SynrG | glad you worked it out |
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| 14:25.13 | tete_ | oh and defined the asound.conf at host because virtualbox is not able to handle this, where its defined to always use spdif |
| 14:25.17 | Komanda | could the above error be because of ec2 lack of sopport for hardware accelerated virtualization? |
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| 14:25.49 | SynrG | probably. what's in flags in /proc/cpuinfo? |
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| 14:27.06 | SynrG | Komanda: here's some doc on that: http://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/virtualization_types.html |
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| 14:28.02 | SynrG | Komanda: so it depends on whether you use the current generation of instance type or not, as i understand it from reading that |
| 14:28.17 | Komanda | SynrG: i'm using a hvm instance |
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| 14:31.27 | Komanda | SynrG: you talked about an outdated wiki http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/daily-builds/daily/arch-latest/i386/iso-cd/ looks recent right |
| 14:31.33 | Komanda | that's the one i used as guest |
| 14:32.17 | SynrG | i'm not talking about the links to the images. those use symlinks so are always current |
| 14:32.30 | SynrG | but the wiki content itself is old and refers to obsolete debian releases |
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| 14:32.58 | SynrG | it makes not mention of current stable wheezy, let alone the upcoming testing aka 'jessie' release |
| 14:33.18 | Komanda | ah |
| 14:33.27 | Komanda | well my host os is jessie |
| 14:33.47 | Komanda | and it works with the link i used as qemu guest os |
| 14:33.53 | Komanda | following the instructions of the wiki |
| 14:36.04 | xreal | Anyone with an idea, how dpkg hooks work? http://pastie.org/pastes/9893699/text |
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| 14:41.33 | dutchfish | xreal, pre and post hooks, normally are declared in your debian/rules file, when construcitng the package; see the debian new maintainers guide. |
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| 14:43.14 | dutchfish | xreal, also look at https://wiki.debian.org/DpkgTriggers |
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| 14:43.35 | xreal | dutchfish: I thought, I could "hook" in anywhere after pre-configuration and before install :D |
| 14:44.39 | dutchfish | xreal, i am not sure if you are solving a problem or want to implement it in your own package, or just want to rerun a post/pre script |
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| 14:46.34 | xreal | dutchfish: I've written bug report 777162. See "workaround 3" at the bottom. I want to run a script after dpkg-preconfiguration was run. |
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| 14:52.46 | dutchfish | xreal, cant you invoke console-setup/codesetcode in the postinstall? |
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| 14:55.04 | dutchfish | xreal, mm... this one smells a bit like a perl bug, i am not sure, i only have jessie at disposal currently |
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| 14:56.10 | xreal | dutchfish: yep, I also think, it's a perl bug. Affects Wheezy and Jessie. Sure, console-data is outdated, but it's still in Jessie's repository :) |
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| 14:56.51 | dutchfish | xreal, fair enough |
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| 14:57.15 | xreal | dutchfish: let me keep on using google for hooking in apt-installations :) |
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| 14:59.09 | dutchfish | xreal, happy bughunting |
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| 15:01.24 | Komanda | to save memory & diskspace in my nested virtualization settup, what would be the most minimal debian install possible |
| 15:01.26 | Komanda | ? |
| 15:01.42 | Komanda | any great tutorials on that subject? |
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| 15:02.14 | dutchfish | Komanda, a system only, like debootstrap does |
| 15:02.44 | dutchfish | Komanda, unless you want to break dpkg and family, then even less |
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| 15:03.25 | dutchfish | Komanda, also depends on architecture you want to use |
| 15:03.57 | dutchfish | Komanda, https://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap |
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| 15:04.03 | Komanda | i386 |
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| 15:04.27 | SynrG | you can do a base install and leave out 'standard'. you can make deeper cuts with localepurge (though that deliberately 'breaks' packages by stripping out unused locales) |
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| 15:06.29 | dutchfish | Komanda, i dont know the exact sizes, but they tend to be small, of couse you need networking hooks, to get you preferred host configured along your vm's network, see libvirt and family |
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| 15:07.52 | dutchfish | SynrG, yes, but that method can still give a bigger installbase then actually needed, but the upside is, it is easier |
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| 15:08.14 | SynrG | yep |
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| 15:08.18 | dutchfish | SynrG, things nfs and friends |
| 15:08.30 | Komanda | i did a net install without selecting a mirror |
| 15:08.37 | Komanda | installer was like |
| 15:08.37 | SynrG | right |
| 15:08.58 | Komanda | u sure u wanna do this you will end up with a bare minimum install |
| 15:09.02 | Komanda | i was like |
| 15:09.03 | Komanda | ok |
| 15:09.18 | Komanda | lets see how it turns out |
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| 15:09.53 | SynrG | yes. that's just base |
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| 15:16.24 | hassoon | can anyone tell me how to make a given linux distro iso i(ve got bootable over network? i have ended up in tutorials explaining how to make 'netboot' iso's bootable through a pxe server |
| 15:16.36 | hassoon | but i just want to make my full iso's bootable over pxe you know.. |
| 15:16.51 | hassoon | the example for now is debian |
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| 15:20.14 | dutchfish | hassoon, https://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/Remote and http://sirlagz.net/2011/05/07/how-to-setup-a-pxe-boot-server-on-debian-part-1/ |
| 15:20.38 | dutchfish | hassoon, basically its a PXE boot from a tftp server |
| 15:20.56 | dutchfish | hassoon, mostly used for disless install of debian |
| 15:21.01 | dutchfish | diskless* |
| 15:21.37 | dutchfish | hassoon, but you can of couse run a full blown desktop that way, if your resources are good enough on your lan |
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| 15:22.24 | DelphiWorld | hi debianists |
| 15:22.26 | DelphiWorld | 30 7 * * * |
| 15:22.33 | DelphiWorld | what do that mean in cronjobs? |
| 15:23.29 | dutchfish | DelphiWorld, man 5 crontab |
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| 15:23.47 | DelphiWorld | dutchfish: man not good for tts otherwise i should have done it |
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| 15:24.15 | dutchfish | DelphiWorld, http://unixhelp.ed.ac.uk/CGI/man-cgi?crontab+5 |
| 15:25.01 | soreau | Hello, I'm looking for the maintainer of the compiz 0.8 packages |
| 15:25.09 | soreau | (or former maintainer) |
| 15:25.33 | soreau | I understand compiz was removed from the debian repositories do to supposed lack of upstream maintainer |
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| 15:27.01 | dutchfish | soreau, http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs/main/c/compiz/oldstable_changelog |
| 15:27.11 | DelphiWorld | thx dutchfish |
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| 15:27.32 | dutchfish | yw |
| 15:28.42 | soreau | dutchfish: The mosts recent is from 5 years ago.. would Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org> be the one to poke? |
| 15:29.28 | dutchfish | soreau, not sure, but thats the best i could find also look at https://packages.qa.debian.org/c/compiz.html |
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| 15:30.26 | dutchfish | soreau, (at the top left) |
| 15:31.08 | soreau | dutchfish: Cool, thanks. Do you happen to know if any of these guys idle here on IRC? |
| 15:31.25 | dutchfish | soreau, unlikely, otherwise i would have known |
| 15:31.34 | soreau | dutchfish: Ok thanks for the help |
| 15:31.41 | dutchfish | chears |
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| 15:56.58 | xreal | Is anyone into apt/dpkg? What the hell is wrong here? apt-get -o Dpkg::Pre-Install-Pkgs='dpkg-preconfigure --apt --priority=low' install console-data - it doesn't call "--priority=low". |
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| 15:59.07 | ectospasm | xreal: this is just a guess, but maybe --priority=low needs to appear somewhere else on the command line |
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| 15:59.56 | rock_theory | I'm having a bit of an issue with sabnzbdplus in jessie. installed, started service, but it doesn't run. ps aux | grep sabnzbd results nothing |
| 16:00.16 | rock_theory | Not sure if this is the right place.. |
| 16:00.17 | xreal | ectospasm: yeh, but it also should work this way :( |
| 16:00.27 | Zerock | I'm trying to set up my print server remotely. I've configured cupsd to allow connections from any address, but I get a Bad Request error when connecting from anything but localhost. |
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| 16:00.58 | dutchfish | rock_theory, just a hunch, you need to configure and enable it, somwhere in /etc |
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| 16:01.15 | rock_theory | dutchfish: I'll take a look, thanks. |
| 16:01.16 | dutchfish | rock_theory, or /etc/default |
| 16:01.49 | ectospasm | xreal: break it down... does "dpkg-preconfigure --apt --priority=low" do anything by itself? |
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| 16:02.11 | xreal | ectospasm: yep :) |
| 16:02.23 | ectospasm | looks like it waits for standard input to me |
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| 16:02.35 | ectospasm | shouldn't you pass a deb or something? |
| 16:02.50 | xreal | ectospasm: Maybe, yes. I've got an idea, let me write a script to simply touch a file. Let's see if it getts called. |
| 16:02.54 | ectospasm | within the single quotes? |
| 16:03.20 | mike802 | http://mike802.blogspot.com/ |
| 16:03.53 | petn-randall | mike802: Is there anything you want to show us? |
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| 16:04.08 | mike802 | =( |
| 16:04.16 | mike802 | no, i'm just a spam bot |
| 16:05.07 | petn-randall | mike802: In that case keep it off the support channel ;) |
| 16:05.24 | mike802 | ok |
| 16:05.32 | mike802 | should i go? |
| 16:06.07 | Komanda | after doing |
| 16:06.10 | Komanda | sudo ip addr add dev eth0 x.local.ip.x/32 |
| 16:06.19 | Komanda | how do i assign this interface to qemu / kvm gues that i start with |
| 16:06.24 | Komanda | sudo qemu-system-x86_64 -hda debian.img -boot d -m 128 -vnc :0 -enable-kvm |
| 16:06.25 | petn-randall | mike802: You don't have to leave, this channel is dedicated to Debian support, so anything offtopic should be avoided. If you want to show us something specific on your blog, feel free to discuss this on #debian-offtopic. |
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| 16:07.12 | xreal | ectospasm: this also doesn't create a file: apt-get -o Dpkg::Pre-Install-Pkgs='sh-c "touch test.txt"' install console-data |
| 16:07.14 | mike802 | oh, why thank you |
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| 16:08.25 | SynrG | xreal: exactly as pasted? what's 'sh-c'? |
| 16:08.36 | xreal | SynrG: oh my... |
| 16:08.38 | SynrG | xreal: typo here? looks like it should be 'sh -c' |
| 16:08.43 | dutchfish | Komanda, in case you are configuring a bridge setup see https://wiki.debian.org/KVM#Setting_up_bridge_networking |
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| 16:09.50 | xreal | SynrG: nope, also didn't work. Maybe it's writing the file anywhere else in the system. |
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| 16:10.05 | rock_theory | dutchfish: Thanks, seems to be running now. Just a matter of figuring out why the web interface won't show at this point =P |
| 16:10.13 | SynrG | xreal: give a fully qualified path to the touch cmd? |
| 16:10.14 | dutchfish | rock_theory, nice |
| 16:10.30 | xreal | SynrG: perfect. |
| 16:10.56 | SynrG | :) |
| 16:11.17 | xreal | SynrG: ALso didn't work: apt-get -o Dpkg::Pre-Install-Pkgs='sh -c "touch /opt/test.txt"' install console-data |
| 16:11.26 | rock_theory | dutchfish: And done =) Thanks again! |
| 16:11.27 | xreal | Maybe this function was removed from apt ? |
| 16:11.34 | dutchfish | rock_theory, it boils down to configure your bridge and use the link i gave to write the cfg's for each host, then bare in mind that all hosts needs unique MAC addresses, so cloning them can bring you in toruble. |
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| 16:11.53 | dutchfish | rock_theory, yw |
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| 16:15.14 | Komanda | i have done |
| 16:15.15 | Komanda | sudo ip addr add dev eth0 x.local.ip.x/32 |
| 16:15.28 | Komanda | now i wan't to create a Tap for this |
| 16:15.37 | Komanda | how to do this? |
| 16:16.16 | SynrG | xreal: "Like options this must be specified in list notation. The commands are invoked in order using /bin/sh; should any fail APT will abort. APT will pass thefilenames of all .deb files it is going to install to the commands, one per line on the requested file descriptor, defaulting to standard input. |
| 16:16.25 | SynrG | xreal: so says apt.conf(5) |
| 16:16.28 | dutchfish | Komanda, Tap? |
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| 16:17.06 | Komanda | dutchfish: http://wiki.qemu.org/Documentation/Networking |
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| 16:17.14 | Komanda | "The tap networking backend makes use of a tap networking device in the host. It offers very good performance and can be configured to create virtually any type of network topology. Unfortunately, it requires configuration of that network topology in the host which tends to be different depending on the operating system you are using. Generally speaking, it also requires that you have root privileges." |
| 16:17.19 | xreal | SynrG: so I can't run a script at all? |
| 16:17.28 | SynrG | xreal: that's not what i read above. |
| 16:17.47 | SynrG | xreal: you've not specified your script(s) to run in "list notation" |
| 16:18.06 | xreal | SynrG: I don't have a clue, what this is, but Google might tell me. 1 sec |
| 16:18.27 | SynrG | xreal: it's perl is what it is |
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| 16:19.14 | dutchfish | Komanda, i know what tap/tun devices are, i just dont know what you want to configure. |
| 16:19.44 | Komanda | dutchfish: i'm trying to get networking capability to my qemu virtual machine |
| 16:19.48 | Komanda | i'm on ec2 |
| 16:20.03 | Komanda | i just added a elastic ip & private ip address |
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| 16:20.20 | Komanda | when i do; curl --interface loca.ip http://curlmyip.com |
| 16:20.26 | Komanda | it works for both interfaces |
| 16:20.42 | dutchfish | Komanda, i cant help you with that, but normally you create a bridge or a routed layer, which you assign your vm guest too |
| 16:20.46 | Komanda | now i wan't to have one ip address on my virtual machine |
| 16:20.59 | Komanda | dutchfish: sounds great |
| 16:21.04 | Komanda | i'm new to this sorry |
| 16:21.10 | dutchfish | np |
| 16:21.26 | dutchfish | Komanda, maybe others have more expirience with creating this inside ec2 |
| 16:21.37 | Komanda | well it should be the same |
| 16:21.42 | Komanda | since the interface is already working |
| 16:21.55 | Komanda | just need to know how to settup a brige/routed layer |
| 16:22.05 | Komanda | this should be within debian right? |
| 16:22.10 | dutchfish | Komanda, sure, but maybe you are not allowed to create tap devices, i do not know for sure |
| 16:22.31 | dutchfish | Komanda, depends on the hosts |
| 16:22.55 | dutchfish | Komanda, or firewall setup |
| 16:22.57 | SynrG | xreal: example shown here: https://wiki.debian.org/AptConf |
| 16:23.22 | Komanda | dutchfish: i'm on amazon virtual privacte cloud, i have full control over netwroking stuff |
| 16:23.27 | xreal | SynrG: Yeah, but it shoul also run on command-line level. |
| 16:23.31 | Komanda | lack of knowledge is my only problem lol |
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| 16:23.40 | dutchfish | Komanda, ok, then create that tap device as stated |
| 16:23.53 | SynrG | xreal: that's not how i read the apt.conf doc |
| 16:24.00 | SynrG | xreal: it doesn't say "or a string" |
| 16:24.12 | SynrG | xreal: it's quite explicit that it *must* be in list notation |
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| 16:24.54 | SynrG | xreal: so if it also accepts a plan string here, that's a bug in the doc ... and your testing so far indicates a plain string doesn't work ... |
| 16:24.58 | SynrG | xreal: so what is your conclusion? |
| 16:25.07 | SynrG | plain* |
| 16:25.27 | Komanda | dutchfish: so a tap device is something completely outside of the ec2 host/guest? i should be looking in the amazon gui to set it up? |
| 16:25.37 | Komanda | i assumed it was just something within debian |
| 16:26.11 | Komanda | https://wiki.debian.org/QEMU#Networking |
| 16:26.15 | Komanda | this looks great |
| 16:26.18 | Komanda | should work |
| 16:26.21 | dutchfish | Komanda, inside /etc/network/interfaces see: https://wiki.debian.org/QEMU (at the interfaces part) |
| 16:26.29 | xreal | SynrG: but what's "apt-get -o" for then? |
| 16:26.59 | Komanda | dutchfish: lol thanks |
| 16:27.07 | dutchfish | Komanda, a tap device is inside debian, but, the access is granted on the host's layer |
| 16:27.16 | dutchfish | ;) |
| 16:27.40 | Komanda | ah ok |
| 16:27.40 | xreal | SynrG: "-o=? Set an arbitrary configuration option, eg -o dir::cache=/tmp" |
| 16:27.44 | dutchfish | phys. access is what i meant here |
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| 16:28.12 | dutchfish | Komanda, the same goes for any 'host' firewall ruling |
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| 16:28.35 | dutchfish | Komanda, but nothing holds you back to try it out now |
| 16:30.12 | Komanda | so here |
| 16:30.12 | Komanda | https://wiki.debian.org/QEMU#Networking |
| 16:30.31 | Komanda | in the script i don't see anything specifying the secodn internall ip address |
| 16:30.44 | Komanda | i basically want all traffic of the vm be routed to the second ip address |
| 16:31.06 | Komanda | curl --interface internal.ip http://curlmyip.com |
| 16:31.15 | Komanda | that works |
| 16:31.19 | dutchfish | Komanda, no, thats correct, the ip is done inside the vm, or as dhcp inside the vm, or as a command line param in the vm's boot cfg |
| 16:31.52 | dutchfish | Komanda, the last one is arbitrary, the others are not |
| 16:32.02 | Komanda | is there no way to do like a force handout of the ip address? |
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| 16:32.56 | Komanda | so that i can just do something like, qemu -hda debian.img boot d -interface local.ip |
| 16:32.57 | dutchfish | Komanda, you cant be at the same time manually inside the host and the vm at boot time, so how you want to do that, without scripting it, or doing it by config? |
| 16:33.23 | dutchfish | Komanda, alos think, what happens at reboot time |
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| 16:33.40 | Komanda | ah i see |
| 16:33.54 | dutchfish | Komanda, have fun |
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| 16:36.19 | soreau | email sent |
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| 16:36.35 | dutchfish | soreau, good luck |
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| 16:37.35 | soreau | hopefully compiz will find its way back to debian repositories |
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| 16:38.40 | dutchfish | soreau, thats a hard thing to do, since all the new things in jessie, but who knows ...... |
| 16:39.01 | dutchfish | soreau, maybe at least in sid |
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| 16:39.14 | Komanda | dutchfish: followed the guide, do i need to *refresh* with a command after editing /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 16:40.07 | hassoon | how to reset the whole networking module/(driver ?) in debian , it's like the eth0 and even the wlan0 (well..i just need the eth0 after all), it cannot even get an ip address or work accordign to a manually-set one |
| 16:40.15 | dutchfish | Komanda, the ultimate test is a reboot, but double checkit, the old way (not recommended) was /etc/init.d/networking restart , but that ha sbeen left since wheezy or so |
| 16:40.31 | hassoon | it's a damn meess, i'm just using my other win7 desktop now |
| 16:40.36 | hassoon | *mess* |
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| 16:42.36 | soreau | dutchfish: I do not believe in luck but thanks ;) |
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| 16:42.47 | dutchfish | hassoon, calm down, right down every step, take a deep breath and carefully read the guidelines |
| 16:42.53 | dutchfish | s/right/write |
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| 16:43.26 | dutchfish | soreau, ;) |
| 16:44.02 | soreau | hassoon: Have you tried dhclient eth0? |
| 16:44.05 | soreau | shoots in the dark |
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| 16:44.23 | hassoon | dutchfish: what? what guidlines ? |
| 16:45.21 | dutchfish | !wlan |
| 16:45.22 | dpkg | Support for your wireless LAN device is dependent on the chipset within. Don't know what you have? Ask me about <what's my wireless>. Atheros: <atheros>; Atmel: <atmel>; Broadcom: <broadcom>; Intel: <intel>; Intersil: <prism>; Marvell: <marvell>; Ralink: <ralink>; Realtek: <realtek>; TI: <acx-mac80211>; VIA: <vt665x>; ZyDAS: <zydas>. See also <crda>, <killswitch>, <wpa>. http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi |
| 16:45.28 | soreau | !eth |
| 16:46.07 | soreau | :-) |
| 16:46.42 | dutchfish | hassoon, specially take attention to the wpa setup |
| 16:46.58 | dutchfish | !wpa |
| 16:46.58 | dpkg | Wi-Fi Protected Access (WPA) is a wireless encryption standard. A WPA supplicant for Debian systems is in the wpasupplicant package, read /usr/share/doc/wpasupplicant/README.Debian.gz to configure (especially "Troubleshooting" for association to hidden SSIDs). Since Debian 7 "Wheezy", it is possible to install Debian over a WPA-protected network. http://wiki.debian.org/WPA http://wiki.debian.org/WiFi/HowToUse#wpasupplicant |
| 16:47.08 | soreau | dutchfish: He said he can't even get hardwire working |
| 16:47.31 | soreau | sounds like he might have messed with /etc/network/interfaces |
| 16:47.33 | dutchfish | soreau, yes, depending on what card he has |
| 16:47.35 | hassoon | dutchfish: it's not about the wifi, it's about the whole network |
| 16:47.42 | hassoon | the whole interfaces |
| 16:48.04 | dutchfish | hassoon, what problem exactly do you have with that? |
| 16:48.22 | hassoon | dutchfish: that's a problem itself |
| 16:48.43 | soreau | hassoon: It's more likely a PEBCAK issue ;) |
| 16:48.59 | hassoon | peback |
| 16:49.01 | soreau | hassoon: What do you have in /etc/network/interfaces? hastebin.com |
| 16:49.01 | hassoon | ? |
| 16:49.44 | dutchfish | !pastebin |
| 16:49.44 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 16:49.51 | hassoon | dutchfish: i know |
| 16:50.16 | dutchfish | hassoon, good can you paste the interfaces file, you may comment out ip addresses |
| 16:50.23 | soreau | dpkg -l |
| 16:50.24 | dpkg | Files in package soreau-pr0n: /srv/soreau-pr0n/soreau.jpg |
| 16:50.27 | soreau | ;) |
| 16:50.36 | soreau | what?@! |
| 16:50.41 | soreau | lmfao |
| 16:50.47 | hassoon | indeed |
| 16:50.48 | hassoon | lmfai |
| 16:50.51 | hassoon | *lmfao |
| 16:51.28 | hassoon | soreau: auto lo; iface lo inet loopback; iface wlan0 inet dhcp; iface eth0 inet dhcp; |
| 16:51.30 | soreau | dpkg: Failsauce |
| 16:51.30 | dpkg | soreau: no idea |
| 16:51.38 | hassoon | NB ; is a new-lline character here |
| 16:51.56 | hassoon | it's like there is something corrupted |
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| 16:52.14 | soreau | hassoon: Have you tried 'dhclient eth0' as root? then check 'ifconfig eth0' to see if you have an ip |
| 16:52.49 | hassoon | soreau: sec, i'm executing things on the said cursed machine with yet anotherindependant crp monitor :p |
| 16:53.08 | soreau | sure |
| 16:53.09 | hassoon | i cannot pastebin or do any internet-based action fyi :p |
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| 16:53.29 | soreau | recommends *cough*buntu*cough* fer newbz |
| 16:53.48 | soreau | hassoon: oh right |
| 16:53.53 | hassoon | i don't think i'm too nooby to use ubuntu |
| 16:54.04 | hassoon | i like linux and expsure to the XLI for the whole time |
| 16:54.08 | hassoon | s/XLI/CLI |
| 16:54.19 | hassoon | *exposure* |
| 16:54.26 | soreau | indubitably |
| 16:54.32 | hassoon | :p |
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| 16:55.19 | hassoon | soreau: thanks you're kind sir. \o/ |
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| 16:56.22 | hassoon | it echoed: Reloading /etc/samba/smb.conf: smbd only . |
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| 16:56.23 | soreau | hassoon: Anything working ? |
| 16:56.28 | hassoon | and ummm. |
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| 16:57.28 | Komanda | https://wiki.debian.org/QEMU#Networking |
| 16:57.38 | Komanda | stil trying to get that working |
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| 16:57.49 | Komanda | when i ping 8.8.8.8 in the guest it's unreachable |
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| 16:58.59 | soreau | hassoon: If you get an ip, try pinging your dhcp server gateway ip (or router ip), then 8.8.8.8 and finally something that accesses DNS e.g. google.com |
| 16:59.03 | Komanda | ifconfig eth0 shows the address i added with sudo ip addr add dev eth0 x.local.ip.x/32 |
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| 16:59.22 | hassoon | soreau: i seethings like : 'inet addr:192.168.1.4 Bcast:192.168.1.255 Mask:255.255.255.0 |
| 16:59.48 | soreau | hassoon: If you can ping 8.8.8.8 but not google.com, you probably need to edit /etc/resolv.conf and put nameserver 8.8.8.8 |
| 16:59.54 | hassoon | soreau: but in the other hand the graphical network manager of KDE tells that the whole netork is unmanaged |
| 17:00.10 | hassoon | from eth0 to wlan0 |
| 17:00.15 | hassoon | oh lemme read you rstatement |
| 17:00.16 | soreau | hassoon: I wouldn't pay much attention to what KDE has to say on this :P |
| 17:00.23 | soreau | CLI FTW |
| 17:00.41 | hassoon | i agree wit htha on e:> |
| 17:00.49 | hassoon | *with that* |
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| 17:00.52 | soreau | but that might be an indication network-manager service isn't running |
| 17:01.52 | soreau | which you'd probably want for auto-network-interface-management |
| 17:02.13 | hassoon | oh dear... |
| 17:02.22 | hassoon | i can now browse the internet :-S |
| 17:02.25 | soreau | \o/ |
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| 17:02.36 | hassoon | is the kde network manager bluffing at me? :-O |
| 17:02.42 | soreau | I wouldn't doubt it |
| 17:02.53 | soreau | 's work here is done *floats away* |
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| 17:03.19 | hassoon | i should keep usign the i3wm as the sole only wm interface in my usage |
| 17:03.21 | SynrG | xreal: i didn't mean you couldn't do it without -o. i meant you passed it a scalar, not a list. |
| 17:03.25 | hassoon | kde is full of graphical crap |
| 17:03.29 | SynrG | er, *with* |
| 17:04.06 | hassoon | soreau: oh dear, stay around, you're the man \o/ |
| 17:04.25 | soreau | :-) |
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| 17:06.15 | hassoon | okey time to ssh back to my debian laptop and keep figuring out how to make my ready-to-burn full debian iso's bootable over the pxe lan |
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| 17:06.27 | hassoon | i don't want to use those netboot copies |
| 17:06.32 | duglas | Running Jessie on my laptop, "systemctl hibernate" on the command line or in the menu will hibernate. How do I make it hibernate on closing the lid? |
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| 17:09.54 | uniqdom | Hi... How can I get info about an specific device? I have done a dd to write an image to a SD card that I thought that it was in /dev/sdc. Turns out that it fail with a "no space in storage", with just 10 MB copied. My SD card was in /dev/sdb. I want to know about /dev/sdc, as I don't have anything attached, at least nothing visible. |
| 17:11.34 | frostschutz | uniqdom, what's the output of stat /dev/sdc? if it's a regular file, you just filled up your devtmpfs ramdisk, no harm done, just delete the file |
| 17:11.46 | frostschutz | uniqdom, if it's a device, you've overwritten something else |
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| 17:13.40 | xreal | SynrG: I got some settings to work, but I really wonder, if Debian's community does *ANY* quality checking. |
| 17:14.18 | xreal | Anyone ever tried this? "apt-get -y -o Debug::pkgDPkgPM=true install console-data" - its output is rubbish. |
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| 17:15.13 | uniqdom | frostschutz: http://paste.debian.net/144457/ |
| 17:15.21 | SynrG | xreal: sure. attacking Debian as a whole will get you far. |
| 17:15.34 | SynrG | xreal: if you believe you've found a bug, stop whining and file one |
| 17:15.54 | uniqdom | I have reatached the SD card and it went to /dev/sdc, checked with dmesg |
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| 17:16.14 | xreal | SynrG: Filing bugs is like saving the world with turning off my lights.. |
| 17:16.23 | SynrG | xreal: it's quite possible there are bugs in less-used things. they might not have been exposed because typically users do not use them. |
| 17:16.29 | xreal | SynrG: Since nobody reads the bug messages, they won't get fixed :) |
| 17:16.43 | SynrG | oh really? so you've given up on making debian better? |
| 17:16.53 | frostschutz | uniqdom, "df -h /dev" says something like "dev 10M 0 10M 0% /dev? |
| 17:16.55 | uniqdom | but if I remove the card I still can see /dev/sdc, and "stat" show the same paste that i have linked |
| 17:17.03 | xreal | SynrG: Nah, but why aren't there any standard automatic tests, which test all settings. |
| 17:17.10 | SynrG | xreal: maybe developers prioritize fixing more important bugs first? |
| 17:17.22 | SynrG | xreal: maybe they don't just fall into a black hole as you suppose |
| 17:17.30 | xreal | SynrG: is it like 100.000 users an 10 developers? |
| 17:17.32 | uniqdom | frostschutz: udev 10M 0 10M 0% /dev |
| 17:17.39 | frostschutz | uniqdom, that seems fine, then |
| 17:17.47 | SynrG | xreal: if you think they're overworked, provide them with a patch to make it easy. |
| 17:18.05 | SynrG | i've had good experiences filing bugs that way |
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| 17:18.11 | xreal | SynrG: that's my problem, I'm not that good to provide a patch. I only can test and describe problems :( |
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| 17:18.40 | uniqdom | frostschutz, can't understand, can you give me some keywords to start a search? |
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| 17:19.18 | SynrG | xreal: then test and file a bug. maybe someone else with the same problem *and* skills will file a patch to go with it? |
| 17:19.20 | bytes | Does Debian testing support Secure Boot now? |
| 17:19.23 | iveevue | Why does Wheezy have such an ancient MySQL version? |
| 17:19.34 | SynrG | xreal: but what i know for certain is that unreported bugs will remain unfixed. |
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| 17:20.05 | xreal | SynrG: ok, you've won |
| 17:20.25 | SynrG | xreal: i get no satisfcation from 'winning'. i just want to make debian better :) |
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| 17:20.40 | xreal | SynrG: then switch to Ubuntu, just joking. |
| 17:20.44 | uniqdom | iveevue: because is the Wheezy is the stable version of Debian. You may want to install mysql from the sources to get a new version. |
| 17:20.46 | SynrG | haha. not |
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| 17:21.56 | xreal | SynrG: could you please try this? it won't install anything. Why does it print so ugly output? apt-get -y -o Debug::pkgDPkgPM=true install console-data >2 | less |
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| 17:25.50 | bytes | So, anyone have a clue about secure boot on testing? |
| 17:28.57 | jhutchins | bytes: Secure boot was developed to prevent people from installing linux. |
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| 17:31.34 | phy1729 | that's not true |
| 17:31.54 | SynrG | xreal: that won't work because debconf wants to display a dialog. you need to force it to be noninteractive |
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| 17:32.40 | phy1729 | if you want to understand UEFI read https://www.happyassassin.net/2014/01/25/uefi-boot-how-does-that-actually-work-then/ |
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| 17:33.41 | bytes | jhutchins, i know what secure boot is- i am just wondering if debian is signed or not |
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| 17:34.03 | bytes | last i checked, which was a couple years ago, it was not |
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| 17:36.51 | SAKUJ0 | hi guys! i am about to use Debian for my htpc. I want to run a system restore, can you recommend software for that? It should just be able to create restore points, they should be incremental and it has to be managed via command line and maybe even supply a web interface |
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| 17:39.25 | Komanda | so when i run "dhclient -d eth0" on the guest, i can see on the host traffic with "tcpdump -i tap0" |
| 17:39.31 | Komanda | but it says "no dhcpoffers recieved" on the guest |
| 17:39.37 | Komanda | following this tutorial https://wiki.debian.org/QEMU#Networking |
| 17:39.40 | Komanda | what did i do wrong? |
| 17:39.49 | mrMute | SAKUJ0: duplicati can be used for incremental backups, it has a web interface. It depends on mono though. |
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| 17:40.10 | SynrG | xreal: looks fine to me: http://paste.debian.net/144460/ |
| 17:40.32 | SynrG | xreal: that's from: DEBCONF_FRONTEND=noninteractive sudo apt-get -y -o Debug::pkgDPkgPM=true install console-data 2> debug.log > dpkg.log |
| 17:40.40 | SynrG | xreal: the paste contains the contents of debug.log |
| 17:41.10 | SynrG | xreal: generally you don't want to take interactive applications and pipe output to less. that generally leads to a mess. |
| 17:41.35 | SynrG | i mean, applications that take input from stdin as well as sending stuff to stdout and stderr |
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| 17:41.53 | SynrG | as opposed to simple filters, which dpkg is not |
| 17:42.00 | SynrG | (and apt for that matter) |
| 17:42.15 | nickSwe | I am trying to automount a ssh folder to a local directory. I can successfully mount it once I am logged in by running as the logged in user: /usr/bin/sshfs -o idmap=user nick@pennybridge:/home/storage /home/nick/Pennybridge but having it in /etc/rc.local does not autorun the command as I was hoping it to. rc.local is set to chmod 755 btw and I have made it executable (+x)... Is there anything I am missing? |
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| 17:43.23 | rgr | trying to mount the memory card inside my new Lumix camera with a USB to camera cable. Get this : https://gist.github.com/rileyrg/30990e9487bda3f11c48 . Any ideas? I can read the card if I take it out and then use a card reader but thats really inconvenient. PTP obviously doesn't work either. |
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| 17:46.39 | rozie | rgr: what fs? what cfdisk shows |
| 17:46.40 | rozie | ? |
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| 17:49.05 | somiaj | the partition type may not be reflective of the actual filesystem on teh partition tough. |
| 17:49.52 | rgr | exfat |
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| 17:54.48 | SAKUJ0 | mrMute, damn, that is awesome. I think I'll be using duplicati. I just realized I can create another Google account for my HTPC and incrementally backup my entire HTPC on it since I am going to use a minimal approach this time |
| 17:56.27 | Komanda | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:56.50 | Komanda | from 10.0.0.199 icmp_sec=22 Destination Host Unreachale |
| 17:57.00 | Komanda | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:57.08 | Komanda | still using this tutoriall |
| 17:57.29 | Komanda | for some reason i can't ping from the guest vm to the outside world |
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| 17:58.21 | Komanda | i think i have to add a route on the host or a route on the guest |
| 17:58.24 | Komanda | not sure |
| 17:58.31 | Komanda | new to this stuff :[ |
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| 17:58.58 | Komanda | when i ping the public ip i'm trying to attach to the vm it responds to my pings |
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| 18:04.32 | rgr | and when trying to mount: https://gist.github.com/rileyrg/4b9a212aae3c9297537b |
| 18:04.48 | rgr | and the mount fails. |
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| 18:05.01 | nabblet | !bot |
| 18:05.03 | dpkg | I ain't no stinkin' bot. I am a finely tuned and hand crafted tool. Oh wait... I guess I am a bot (that you should not abuse). |
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| 18:07.10 | mrMute | SAKUJ0: If you try out duplicati make sure to use version 2 if you want the web interface |
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| 18:10.43 | SAKUJ0 | if anything i am worried about mono |
| 18:10.55 | SAKUJ0 | but it really seems like they tested it and developed with mono in mind |
| 18:11.34 | SAKUJ0 | but coupled with using a preview release that might be enough to have me look for an alternative |
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| 18:12.45 | mrMute | SAKUJ0: duplicity is a command line alternative, and it uses standard linux tools for the backup format |
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| 18:13.12 | SAKUJ0 | i think i'll go for that and automate it |
| 18:13.22 | SAKUJ0 | it was the first thing i stumbled upon |
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| 18:19.39 | n3vtelen | are debian repositories greater than fedora? |
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| 18:20.26 | n3vtelen | I need complete repositories |
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| 18:25.13 | mrMute | SAKUJ0: if you are installing a desktop you could install dejadup to configure the backup and then run '/usr/lib/deja-dup/deja-dup-monitor' in the background later. |
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| 18:29.20 | turtleding | hello, is there something like that: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/List_of_applications also available for debian? coulndt find something relate to that yet |
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| 18:32.10 | SAKUJ0 | wait, even deja dup uses duplicity? |
| 18:32.35 | SAKUJ0 | that pretty much entirely removes my concerns from earlier |
| 18:32.41 | turtleding | for clearification, i meant a list of software available in debian, with short descriptions |
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| 18:34.30 | SynrG | turtleding: packages.debian.org? |
| 18:35.42 | SAKUJ0 | damn my bad i derped |
| 18:35.46 | SAKUJ0 | ignore what i wrote before |
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| 18:36.43 | SAKUJ0 | are dependencies like on https://packages.debian.org/stable/deja-dup a lot? |
| 18:37.06 | SAKUJ0 | or are the days of having to install 2 GB KDE libs because the one program is made for KDE of the past? |
| 18:37.07 | rgr | you cant have looked very hard. its about 2 seconds of google time away. |
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| 18:38.43 | turtleding | SynrG: hm, that is at least a bit better, than my original impression of debian (completly unordered, without any description^^) thx, i will have a look at |
| 18:39.05 | SynrG | turtleding: i think 'expansive' is more accurate. and yes, it can be overwhelming :) |
| 18:39.42 | SAKUJ0 | i guess i'll stick to duplicity and something like cron |
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| 18:40.01 | SAKUJ0 | no need to install all that bloat on a machine that merely runs fluxbox |
| 18:40.05 | SynrG | backupninja |
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| 18:40.11 | SynrG | with rdiff-backup backend |
| 18:40.20 | turtleding | SynrG: indeed^^ |
| 18:40.50 | SynrG | or duplicity backend if that floats your boat ... |
| 18:41.36 | turtleding | rgr: are you referring to me? |
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| 18:55.03 | pessoa | if a bug listed in the list of bugs of Jessie testing is struck through, does it mean that it is fixed? |
| 18:55.08 | rgr | yes. You really think a mature popular distro like debian would be "completely unordered without any description". |
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| 18:56.28 | damarusama | when I use a java jre, can I change the color of the gui, similarly to gtk for instance ? |
| 18:57.03 | joobus | damarusama: i would think so. |
| 18:57.11 | damarusama | I am using freemind for instance |
| 18:57.36 | damarusama | and I know that for gtk I can use gtk config |
| 18:58.51 | joobus | i don't know how to specifically solve your problem, but somewhere it can be changed. If you can't freemind can, but how much time is it worth? /rhetorical |
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| 18:59.16 | joobus | does anyone here know how to define a shell function at the command line? |
| 18:59.19 | damarusama | I just like to have all my guy in similar color ;) |
| 18:59.35 | damarusama | it's definitly detail work at this point - thanks, I'll look around |
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| 18:59.50 | joobus | damarusama: are you sure it isn't a window manager setting, or are you talking about the backgrounds behind the buttons? |
| 19:00.32 | joobus | I tried defining a function like so: |
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| 19:00.58 | joobus | sendj() {scp -rv $1 user@host:$2 } |
| 19:01.08 | joobus | and it just executes the scp then |
| 19:01.27 | joobus | i'd like to do it on the fly, and not put it in a function file. |
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| 19:06.40 | trysten | joobus: do you know about aliases? they can be defined on command line. |
| 19:07.00 | tremon | joobus: you need to put $1 and $2 in quotes |
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| 19:14.32 | joobus | alias sendj="scp -rv \"$1\" \"$2\"" |
| 19:14.36 | joobus | like that? |
| 19:15.24 | joobus | as far as i've seen alias just does straight token replacement |
| 19:15.31 | joobus | it can't handle variables |
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| 19:19.42 | cthuluh | joobus: sendj() { scp -rv "$1" user@host:"$2"; } |
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| 19:21.37 | joobus | thank you! |
| 19:21.45 | joobus | #winning |
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| 19:34.23 | plaes | o/ |
| 19:34.35 | plaes | can someone share some light about dependencies for 'nmap' ? |
| 19:35.08 | plaes | I'm trying to install on a headless server, and it requires a ton of dependency libs: http://paste.debian.net/144476/ |
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| 19:37.08 | gravy_ | Hello, remember I was ranting and raving about UEFI this morning? Well, I found the solution: http://babylon.lv/how-to-install-debian-on-a-uefi-laptop/ |
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| 19:47.13 | Busserl | gravy_: I had no problem installin in EFI mode on my laptop, but I reverted to MBR because of issues in EFI again. |
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| 19:52.26 | gravy_ | Busserl, not all of us have that option in our brand new laptops ;) |
| 19:52.43 | ins3 | anybody using h5ai on nginx here? |
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| 19:59.33 | Busserl | gravy_: Sure, I am glad I had little problems because of new hardware. :) A video tearing bug in the intel driver was fixed only months ago, and I luckily hadn't to put up with it for more than one night. |
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| 20:01.02 | hairy-potter | i disabled the touchpad in bios, then enabled it again, but now it doesn't seem to work anymore (it is still there if i go to settings -> mouse), any ideas on bringing it back to life? |
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| 20:04.57 | samlero | modprobe the kernel module? did disabling it in bios mess with the udev or seomthing? |
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| 20:06.58 | hairy-potter | who knows, and i dont know what the kernel module is, i just installed debian and the touchpad worked automatically then |
| 20:07.09 | Busserl | hairy-potter: is it the synaptics driver? There is the terminal application called 'synclient' |
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| 20:07.44 | hairy-potter | that outputs a bunch of parameters |
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| 20:08.08 | hairy-potter | touchpad off is 0 |
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| 20:12.28 | Busserl | hairy-potter: I'd try setting it on and off and look if the parameters are ok, no idea |
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| 20:23.53 | samlero | take the notepad physically apart and see if plugging/unplugging the white connector is seen in dmesg ;) |
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| 20:26.18 | gravy_ | Linux is so thorough because Linus and his friends had to debug the whole way, every step through... |
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| 20:30.46 | ins3 | anybody using h5ai on nginx here? |
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| 20:31.32 | Komanda | ifconfig -bash: ifconfig: command not found |
| 20:31.42 | ins3 | try /sbin/ifconfig Komanda |
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| 20:32.06 | jelly | Komanda: make sure your PATH contains /usr/sbin and /sbin directories |
| 20:33.09 | Komanda | ok now it works |
| 20:33.20 | Komanda | how to do so that it does this automatically? |
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| 20:33.32 | Komanda | i want to use ifconfig normally |
| 20:33.36 | Komanda | not always have to type this prefix |
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| 20:36.26 | samlero | gravy_: dream on |
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| 20:45.22 | shay_shay | hello |
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| 20:47.36 | Dr-Merkwurdiglie | Anybody have any experience with Xarchiver? It won't compress shit for me. |
| 20:47.52 | Dr-Merkwurdiglie | I'm on Debian 7.0 I decided to go with LXDE because it's supposed to be extremely lightweight but some of the origional programs that came with it are driving me absolutely nuts. |
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| 20:59.19 | samlero | Dr-Merkwurdiglie: are you wanting to compress? |
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| 21:00.50 | shay_shay | you have mail notification isnt working |
| 21:01.02 | shay_shay | i have exim4 on all defaults |
| 21:01.04 | Dr-Merkwurdiglie | Yeah compress |
| 21:01.48 | Dr-Merkwurdiglie | nevermind |
| 21:01.51 | Dr-Merkwurdiglie | got it |
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| 21:06.44 | kamil_ | hello, I have a problem with my RAID array. I use Debian testing, before installation I added dmraid=true, partitioner detected array properly and I created my partitions. During boot process I see "a start job is running for dev-mapper-..." and after 1m30s I get "Dependency Failed" can someone help me with this ? |
| 21:08.03 | samlero | are you testing raid? i hope it isn't a production thingie |
| 21:08.47 | kamil_ | I am using it on my desktop computer which I use to programming |
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| 21:10.33 | hairy-potter | is there an application which allows me to view satellite images, input coordinates and it shows where on the image that point is? (much like google maps but must work offline, at least for a small area) |
| 21:10.49 | hairy-potter | tried google earth but it freezes on my debian, and is probably too "meaty" for the old laptop |
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| 21:15.28 | kingsley | Is there an easy way to add another operating system to grub2's boot menu? |
| 21:15.36 | kingsley | If so, where is it documented? |
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| 21:17.28 | samlero | kingsley: edit the cfg it is pretty straightforward |
| 21:17.47 | kingsley | samlero: Which cfg? |
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| 21:19.36 | samlero | /boot/grub/grub.cfg but i'm gonna guess since you have to ask you are gonna end up with a non bootable system |
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| 21:20.34 | gravy_ | I just re-installed Debian and confirmed. This workshttp://babylon.lv/how-to-install-debian-on-a-uefi-laptop/" |
| 21:20.37 | gravy_ | http://babylon.lv/how-to-install-debian-on-a-uefi-laptop/ |
| 21:20.44 | gravy_ | spam ik, " sry |
| 21:20.52 | gravy_ | But this has been driving me nuts. |
| 21:21.19 | gravy_ | So, whoever says that laptops are designed in a way to make Linux installation harder - now you can stick it to all them unbelievers. |
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| 21:22.54 | gravy_ | Gravy out! |
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| 21:24.28 | zundrli | hello everyone |
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| 21:27.27 | kingsley | samlero: Thank you for elaborating. I checked out /boot/grub/grub.cfg. At least on my computer, it starts with the warning "DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE" and "It is automatically generated by grub-mkconfig using templates from /etc/grub.d and settings from /etc/default/grub" |
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| 21:27.31 | armin | hmhm, which sense should it make that firefox is trying to open "http://www.netbsd01.lan%2faudio%2f/" when i type "netbsd01.lan/audio"? |
| 21:28.31 | GNU\colossus | armin, that's because netbsd01.lan fails to resolve via DNS |
| 21:28.47 | kingsley | samlero: I had actually previously also checked out /etc/grub.d, and found it to contain about 1700 lines of shell code. |
| 21:29.03 | armin | GNU\colossus: i don't think so: |
| 21:29.08 | armin | ; ANSWER SECTION: |
| 21:29.10 | armin | netbsd01.lan. 0 IN A 192.168.1.193 |
| 21:29.23 | GNU\colossus | armin, maybe firefox has a negative lookup result cached |
| 21:29.41 | GNU\colossus | try prefixing the hostname with an explicit "http://", maybe |
| 21:29.42 | armin | GNU\colossus: can i forcefully empty all caches from the commandline? |
| 21:29.48 | armin | 1sec, testing |
| 21:29.50 | GNU\colossus | armin, I don't know of such a way |
| 21:30.04 | GNU\colossus | a new "private window" could work |
| 21:30.22 | armin | yeah that works. thank you. |
| 21:30.28 | armin | dns caching issues then. |
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| 21:34.30 | Sanqui | hello, I need to introduce latency to a single TCP port. all the guides on the internet are either about limiting bandwidth (for a single port), or about introducing latency (to the whole network interface, without the ability to limit it to a single port) |
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| 21:35.55 | GNU\colossus | Sanqui, have you found http://stackoverflow.com/questions/614795/simulate-delayed-and-dropped-packets-on-linux yet? |
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| 21:37.12 | Sanqui | yeah. I can't figure out how to limit tc (netem) to a single port |
| 21:37.22 | Sanqui | in the usage examples, it's always for eth0 |
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| 21:37.24 | Sanqui | as a whole |
| 21:37.25 | GNU\colossus | you can probably take that as a template, and impose that qdisc on something that a previous netfilter rule mark'd |
| 21:37.34 | GNU\colossus | Sanqui, try asking in #netfilter |
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| 21:38.30 | Sanqui | GNU\colossus: I'll look into that, thank you |
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| 21:48.57 | samlero_ | latency - qos? |
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| 21:52.49 | mah454 | Hello |
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| 21:53.32 | mah454 | How can create wpa_supplicant server side ? I want to my clients connect to my network with 802.1x method . |
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| 21:57.32 | duggles | howdy, just wondering what the recommended way of proxying websockets is in debian stable. apache2.2 doesn't have the appropriate module (mod_proxy_wstunnel) so I've gone with using haproxy. Is this alright or is there a better way? |
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| 22:03.43 | samlero_ | mah454: you can only set what the wireless router has available - wpa2psk/aes/tkip etc |
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| 22:04.15 | mah454 | samlero_: no no , I want to set 802.1x for ethernet connection (like eth0) |
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| 22:04.53 | samlero_ | do you know what wpa_supplicant even is? |
| 22:05.31 | mah454 | samlero_: yes used for wireless connections . |
| 22:05.52 | mah454 | how can setup 802.1x server side ? |
| 22:06.01 | teraflop | mah454: RADIUS |
| 22:06.21 | teraflop | ups sorry caps locked |
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| 22:08.58 | teraflop | mah454: you can setup wired authentication using radius |
| 22:09.18 | mah454 | teraflop: Can you take me a document ? |
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| 22:09.49 | mah454 | I need document ... |
| 22:09.52 | teraflop | mah454: heh i think so ill google that anyway it's not hard |
| 22:10.24 | mah454 | teraflop: ok , thank you .... |
| 22:10.32 | samlero_ | teraflop: how do you know how to google? |
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| 22:11.08 | teraflop | mah454: sonething like that http://services.geant.net/cbp/Knowledge_Base/Security/Documents/gn3-na3-ufs_133.pdf |
| 22:12.06 | mah454 | teraflop: like this : http://www.fatofthelan.com/technical/setting-up-802-1x-authentication-with-debian-linux-and-freeradius-part-1/ |
| 22:12.20 | mah454 | _tremo: or this : http://www.networkingbits.com/2014/07/freeradius-basic-setup.html |
| 22:12.24 | mah454 | true ? |
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| 22:13.31 | teraflop | mah454: those do not cover wired clients but can be handy |
| 22:14.25 | teraflop | mah454: the first one I pasted seems to be useful |
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| 22:16.36 | teraflop | mah454: and the last you posted has good references I think |
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| 22:29.18 | xreal | Oh my... Many Debian scripts work language specific... that's very, very unprofessional. For example, running an English debconf-Script with "Generic 105-key (Intl) PC" doesn't work on a German langugage system. There the string is called "Generische PC-Tastatur mit 105 Tasten (Intl)". Result is a messed up system... Microsoft Windows does a much better job here :( |
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| 22:58.21 | jhutchins | Iceweasel's latest update changes the default search engine from Google to Yahoo. I'd heard about Mozilla making the change due to less support from Google (or maybe more support from Yahoo). |
| 22:59.17 | jhutchins | Anyway, I checked "about:config" and the defaultsearchengine was still google; defaultsearchengine/US was Yahoo. I changed that to Google, restarted iceweasle, and it still defaulted to Yahoo. |
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| 22:59.41 | jhutchins | When I changed the search engine in the search bar though, it persisted even when I quit and re-started. |
| 23:00.44 | jhutchins | xreal: No, not MS does not necessarily do a better job with languages, you just found a gap in Linux' configuration tools. |
| 23:01.03 | jhutchins | xreal: What documentation in internationalization in Linux have you read/ |
| 23:01.04 | jhutchins | ? |
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| 23:01.21 | xreal | jhutchins: none, I just expected it to work in English internally. |
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| 23:01.42 | xreal | jhutchins: as a work-around, I'm using LANG=POSIX now :) |
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| 23:02.04 | jhutchins | xreal: So with no real knowledge of how it's intended to work, you say it's messed up and windows works better. |
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| 23:02.35 | jhutchins | xreal: That is one big difference in Windows, they don't expect people to read manuals. |
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| 23:03.23 | jhutchins | xreal: As a Microsoft Certified Professional it's a pet peeve of mine when people having trouble in linux say everything just works in windows. I know better - I have to clean up after it. |
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| 23:03.48 | xreal | jhutchins: I never thought, this problem could appear in linux, since I thought it used more intelligent configuration tools. |
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| 23:04.12 | jhutchins | xreal: I don't think the problem is with the tools. |
| 23:04.13 | xreal | jhutchins: One package configurates in English, the other in current language... that's no good. |
| 23:04.40 | jhutchins | xreal: Perhaps there is a reason for that choice. Perhaps the documentation would explain it. |
| 23:05.18 | xreal | jhutchins: working with LANG=POSIX dpkg... fix this problem, so I'm fine now :) |
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| 23:06.13 | jhutchins | xreal: Good. |
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| 23:07.15 | xreal | jhutchins: but I'll read up the documentation in the next days. |
| 23:07.29 | jhutchins | xreal: I don't know the reasons behind the differences in configuration; I suspect there's a higher-level configuration scheme that makes sense that way. |
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| 23:08.01 | jhutchins | xreal: You shouldn't )have( to speak technical English to use a computer - but it's sure a lot harder if you don't. |
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| 23:15.38 | xreal | jhutchins: I don't care about english, but perhaps it would be easier to store numbers instead of text. |
| 23:15.51 | xreal | jhutchins: "choice 3" instead of plaintext. |
| 23:16.11 | xreal | makes it harder to config manually, of course, but language specific settings make it works to debug. |
| 23:16.13 | xreal | worse* |
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| 23:22.10 | xreal | good night |
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| 23:31.51 | Dirkson | Hey all. What's the nvidia driver package? I thought it was nvidia-driver, but apt tells me that doesn't exist. Debian testing 8.0 |
| 23:32.39 | ger1e | I'd love to know the same for ATI cards, I have a shitty old one in this box (AX550) |
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| 23:33.37 | Brigo | Dirkson, i think you need turn on the nonfree repo |
| 23:34.02 | Brigo | ger1e, then the some reply for you :) |
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| 23:36.54 | nkuttler | !tell Dirkson about nvidia dkms |
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| 23:37.48 | nkuttler | Dirkson: https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers |
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| 23:49.48 | _44Kbps_ | Hi all, I get this error on dmesg when I attach usb hard-drive |
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| 23:50.04 | _44Kbps_ | [13823.865824] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Test WP failed, assume Write Enabled |
| 23:50.04 | _44Kbps_ | [13823.866397] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Asking for cache data failed |
| 23:50.04 | _44Kbps_ | [13823.866405] sd 6:0:0:0: [sdb] Assuming drive cache: write through |
| 23:50.32 | _44Kbps_ | I try on another debian and I get no error... |
| 23:50.53 | Brigo | _44Kbps_, please do not paste here, use paste.debian.org |
| 23:51.05 | Brigo | !paste |
| 23:51.05 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 23:51.34 | _44Kbps_ | Ok, sorry |
| 23:51.41 | Brigo | _44Kbps_, anyway, those are no errors. |
| 23:52.05 | _44Kbps_ | I can not mount de hd |
| 23:52.38 | Vroomfondel | what happens when you try to mount it? Is there an error message on screen? |
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| 23:53.35 | Brigo | _44Kbps_, you can check this: http://askubuntu.com/questions/132100/errors-in-dmesg-test-wp-failed-assume-write-enabled |
| 23:53.46 | _44Kbps_ | I got this |
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