| 00:00.33 | Tobbi_ | abrotman: mono-xamarin.list |
| 00:00.49 | dvs | aha! |
| 00:00.54 | abrotman | Tobbi_: go in to tha tfile, make sure each line has a '#' at the front |
| 00:00.56 | abrotman | then try again |
| 00:01.07 | Tobbi_ | I could as well just remove it. |
| 00:01.11 | Tobbi_ | or move it somewhere else. |
| 00:01.25 | abrotman | just comment it out |
| 00:01.47 | Tobbi | Alright. |
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| 00:06.40 | Tobbi_ | abrotman: I'll have to look. Seems to be working. It's downloading all kinds of packages. |
| 00:06.59 | future28 | Surely a naiive question, but: future@euclid:~$dpkg --search /sbin/init |
| 00:06.59 | future28 | systemd-sysv: /sbin/init |
| 00:07.10 | Tobbi_ | And I just added that package source because the mono installation guide said so. |
| 00:07.14 | future28 | Am I running systemd or sysVinit ? |
| 00:07.22 | un214 | systemd |
| 00:07.39 | future28 | Thanks un214, the sysv at the end was making me unsure |
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| 00:07.57 | future28 | Boot time is improved with systemd I must say |
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| 00:10.48 | Tobbi | abrotman: Thanks. Installing mono worked now! :-) |
| 00:11.38 | abrotman | good |
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| 00:14.45 | _2_Daejua | hi |
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| 00:14.50 | polyphagia | hi |
| 00:15.23 | _2_Daejua | my name is Vadaejua |
| 00:15.49 | dvs | !ask |
| 00:15.49 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 00:17.11 | _2_Daejua | what is your name |
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| 00:22.09 | future28 | Does testing roll such as Arch? |
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| 00:26.04 | Brigo | future28, i do not know how arch rolls |
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| 00:26.59 | future28 | Brigo: Packages introduced from upstream say weekly |
| 00:27.06 | cafuego | future28: no |
| 00:27.11 | Komanda | !smart questions |
| 00:27.11 | dpkg | Go here to find out how to ask intelligent questions: http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html - Be sure to look at the section http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#before - This FAQ has information to help many users solve their own problem more effectively and to help users interact more effectively with helpers. Also ask me about <reportbug>. |
| 00:27.33 | Komanda | !reportbug |
| 00:27.34 | dpkg | reportbug is used to submit bugs to the Debian <BTS>. Install reportbug, then run reportbug. Or on the web, http://www.debian.org/Bugs/, or see http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch05s04#problem-report for some general information about using reportbug and/or for <debian-installer> bug reporting. Also ask me about <report-bugs>. http://wiki.debian.org/reportbug http://www.debian.org/Bugs/Reporting |
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| 00:27.53 | Komanda | !help |
| 00:28.18 | dvs | !tell Komanda about selftell |
| 00:28.44 | Brigo | future28, no, packages from upstream are introducen in sid then if they do not break something they are pushing to testing. |
| 00:28.45 | future28 | cafuego: Right, when testing becomes stable, what happens if I keep my sources list as testing? Does unstable become testing at that point? |
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| 00:28.59 | abrotman | Komanda: we do not support Siduction here |
| 00:29.05 | future28 | Brigo: Ah, so sid would be rolling so to speak |
| 00:29.24 | Brigo | future28, no unestable will be unestable for ever and ever. |
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| 00:29.46 | future28 | Brigo: Good, so I will be kept up to date with the latest supposedly *non breaking* packages? |
| 00:30.09 | abrotman | future28: it does not |
| 00:30.12 | Brigo | future28, in testing yes (mostly), in sid no. |
| 00:30.16 | cafuego | future28: yes, "unstable" is just a label for the lolz. |
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| 00:31.02 | srg | In order to get output email from cron directed to an off-system email account, I have to run an MTA? Is there a superlight MTA I can run? I don't need any type of smtp or anything, just forwarding cron output. |
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| 00:31.09 | future28 | Right, so it looks like I'm fine where I am (testing) |
| 00:31.10 | future28 | Thanks all |
| 00:31.37 | cafuego | srg: nullmailer or somesuch |
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| 00:32.39 | teraflops | msmtp is quite light srg |
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| 00:33.54 | srg | thanks. I already have a full-fleged postfix setup running on another main mail server, I just want to send it to that address from this server. |
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| 00:35.32 | teraflops | srg: msmtp is a client not a server |
| 00:35.42 | smithd | hi |
| 00:35.59 | smithd | So I do an apt-get update and my network is high-bandwidth but high latency (sad, I know) - now apt-get update stuck with updating. |
| 00:36.07 | smithd | And then it needs many, many minutes until it finally continues. |
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| 00:36.27 | smithd | Terminating it and re-running apt-get update doesn't help, it stucks at the same request. |
| 00:36.30 | srg | teraflops: That works. I can pipe cron mail to msmtp to send mail through my main mail box |
| 00:36.39 | smithd | So can I tweak some related settings for high latency internet connections? |
| 00:37.24 | teraflops | smithd: quite handy, i.e echo test | mail -v -s "testing ssmtp setup" tousername@somedomain.com |
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| 00:37.36 | teraflops | sorry i meant srg |
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| 00:38.32 | smithd | yes |
| 00:38.50 | abrotman | smithd: hit ctrl-c, try again |
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| 00:39.06 | smithd | abrotman: did that, still the same stuck |
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| 00:40.54 | smithd | hm, I guess it is simply like that when having a high latency internet :/ |
| 00:41.31 | mtn | smithd: like satellite? |
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| 00:42.52 | smithd | yep |
| 00:42.54 | smithd | I use that. |
| 00:43.26 | mtn | smithd: I have same, no problems or delays with updating |
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| 00:53.38 | smithd | oh he left |
| 00:53.43 | smithd | I wanted to ask what ISP he uses. |
| 00:53.54 | smithd | Mine uses a very restrictive double nat and some proxy. |
| 00:55.30 | abrotman | wonders if it's direcpc ? |
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| 00:57.05 | smithd | no |
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| 00:59.43 | wtheaker | what's the average lag for iceweasel behind firefox in unstable? |
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| 01:00.15 | abrotman | probably up to the maintainer, but last I heard, he could do it within a few ohurs |
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| 01:01.34 | wtheaker | hm maybe I'm being dumb, but it looks like the latest iceweasel in unstable is 31, while the latest firefox version is 35 |
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| 01:04.51 | abrotman | dpkg: tell wtheaker about mdn |
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| 01:10.53 | wtheaker | abrotman: thanks :) |
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| 01:14.06 | BigMouthCommie | had to run afk earlier.... |
| 01:14.14 | BigMouthCommie | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:14.40 | abrotman | BigMouthCommie: did oyu just upgrade? |
| 01:14.52 | BigMouthCommie | i also figured out that right control still does everything identically to the previous (and expected) behavior |
| 01:14.55 | BigMouthCommie | abrotman: yes |
| 01:14.58 | Brigo | !pm |
| 01:14.58 | dpkg | i heard pm is private message (something you don't do without asking for permission first, see <private>), or post meridiem, or prime minister, or perl mongers, or pathetic moron, or provocative/preventative/percussive maintenance, or power management (see <pm debug>) |
| 01:15.01 | abrotman | from wheezy? |
| 01:15.06 | BigMouthCommie | yes |
| 01:15.17 | abrotman | BigMouthCommie: and using gnome? just change the keyboard shortcuts to whatever you'd like |
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| 01:15.18 | BigMouthCommie | sry Brigo |
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| 01:15.48 | BigMouthCommie | i don'th tihnk you are hearing me: i didn't chang anything, but now its broken, and i don't know what configs to start with |
| 01:16.06 | BigMouthCommie | like... why would left shift be broken and not right shift? |
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| 01:16.35 | BigMouthCommie | errr not shift, but control... |
| 01:17.19 | abrotman | They generate different key codes |
| 01:17.29 | BigMouthCommie | omg. can i swap them? |
| 01:17.34 | abrotman | BigMouthCommie: still using Gnome? |
| 01:17.37 | BigMouthCommie | yes |
| 01:18.22 | BigMouthCommie | i don't mind right control breaking but left control is like my clutch. i use it every time i change gears. |
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| 01:20.58 | abrotman | BigMouthCommie: so go into the setup, change the keybindings to what you want |
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| 01:22.05 | EriC^^ | BigMouthCommie: xmodmap |
| 01:22.23 | abrotman | Gnome has an interface to modify that .. no need to use xmodmap |
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| 01:23.28 | BigMouthCommie | where is this interface? |
| 01:23.33 | BigMouthCommie | alt+f2 |
| 01:23.42 | BigMouthCommie | what do i type? |
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| 01:24.09 | abrotman | BigMouthCommie: click in the upper right, there's a settings button |
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| 01:27.37 | BigMouthCommie | thx |
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| 01:30.20 | BigMouthCommie | abrotman: i don't see a config thout would fix this. |
| 01:30.30 | BigMouthCommie | what config do you think i need to change? |
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| 01:58.36 | abrotman | Do a system call and use a tool already created to do this? |
| 01:58.56 | Tom01 | How can I make a screenshot in c programmatically? |
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| 02:05.50 | The_Schmidt | Tom01: maybe find out here http://freecode.com/projects/scrot |
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| 02:07.42 | Tom01 | The_Schmidt: thx |
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| 02:07.48 | The_Schmidt | np, cheers |
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| 02:48.11 | kingsley | How would you fix the clock after booting another operating system changed local time to UTC? |
| 02:48.53 | Hunterkll | tell all your OSes to use UTC? |
| 02:49.31 | abrotman | dpkg: tell kingsley about set the time |
| 02:50.17 | dvs | Hunterkll: good luck with that! ;-) |
| 02:50.37 | Hunterkll | dvs, well, to be fair, windows can do it |
| 02:50.40 | Hunterkll | so everything else can to |
| 02:50.47 | Hunterkll | unless you're saying everything else is worse than widnows? :P |
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| 03:18.32 | nickSwe | I am trying to have my connected external USB hdd automounted when my debian 7 server boots up, for backup purposes. I have created root owned folder /mnt/backup/ and added this to /etc/fstab: /dev/sdb1 /mnt/backup ext4 rw,user,noauto 0 0 However, after running shutdown -r now the USB is not mounted. I have to run: mount /mnt/backup to have it mounted. How do I make this happen automatically when server |
| 03:18.33 | nickSwe | boots up? |
| 03:19.00 | smithd | hi |
| 03:19.08 | smithd | I was just in ##hardware, there are lots of microsoft fanboys. |
| 03:19.16 | smithd | Slight criticism is answered with insults, etc. |
| 03:19.23 | smithd | I left until they also left |
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| 03:20.56 | abrotman | smithd: This is #debian, not our problem |
| 03:22.24 | cafuego | Should I join it and ask for pliers suggestions? |
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| 03:23.09 | smithd | ok! |
| 03:23.11 | smithd | abrotman: hi by the way :D |
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| 03:24.31 | cafuego | stares menacingly at abrotman whilst waving some hardware about |
| 03:24.57 | somiaj | nickSwe: see the noauto option, that says don't auto mount, change it to auto if you want it mounted at boot. Also you should use the UUID just in case the device changes at boot. |
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| 03:25.29 | nickSwe | somiaj: OK thanks! |
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| 03:35.46 | chakpapa | is Debian based on Ubuntu? |
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| 03:36.33 | somiaj | chakpapa: no |
| 03:36.38 | abrotman | chakpapa: please see wikipedia |
| 03:39.33 | chakpapa | ok. I didn't know. |
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| 03:47.46 | chakpapa | can anyone tell me how to install skype on Ubuntu? |
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| 03:48.17 | EriC^^ | sudo apt-get install skype |
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| 03:48.41 | EriC^^ | ubuntu has it's own support channel btw, #ubuntu |
| 03:49.14 | snadge | That channel sucks though ;) |
| 03:49.30 | chakpapa | yes. I heard this channel is professional |
| 03:50.17 | snadge | Still not good form to ask questions about ubuntu in here. And thats something you can easily google. |
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| 03:51.17 | abrotman | chakpapa: this channel is for Debian support, try #ubuntu |
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| 04:38.06 | martianixor | hi, excuse me if this is irrelevant, I've had gnupg-agent listening on ports 34154 and 34356, why is that? |
| 04:38.20 | martianixor | Oh and it's udp |
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| 04:59.36 | chamuco | hi martianixor, do you have a gnupg-agent config file in your /etc/ directory? |
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| 05:01.46 | martianixor | chamuco: no |
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| 05:02.50 | martianixor | chamuco: actually searching the whole system I didn't find any config files related to gnupg-agent |
| 05:05.18 | Rusty1 | martianixor: https://www.gnupg.org/documentation/manuals/gnupg/Agent-Options.html nay help? |
| 05:05.26 | Rusty1 | *any |
| 05:06.37 | martianixor | Rusty1: I don't really see anything related, may be it's just me |
| 05:06.50 | Rusty1 | The default configuration file is named gpg-agent.conf and expected in the .gnupg directory directly below the home directory of the user. |
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| 05:07.09 | martianixor | Rusty1: Oh that yes it does NOT exist |
| 05:07.09 | chamuco | martiananixor I cannot find anything on gnupg-agent default ports so not sure why on those specific ports |
| 05:07.44 | martianixor | Rusty1: I mentioned earlier that I searched the whole system including the home dirs couldn't find any configuration files |
| 05:08.03 | martianixor | Rusty1: so the .gnupg directory yes exists but it doesn't has the conf file |
| 05:08.06 | Rusty1 | martianixor: what version debian? |
| 05:08.22 | martianixor | Rusty1: testing |
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| 05:09.43 | Rusty1 | martianixor: try asking #gnupg ? |
| 05:09.49 | martianixor | Rusty1: actually I followed what's using the ports and found it's the /usr/bin/gnupg-agent |
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| 05:10.32 | martianixor | Rusty1: yes I'm doing that meanwhile :) didn't get a reply yet, but to be honest with you for many questions I always get back to #debian |
| 05:11.15 | martianixor | since 2004 well.. an admiration story :) |
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| 05:13.12 | Rusty1 | what does: apt-cache policy gnupg-agent return ? |
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| 05:13.24 | martianixor | Rusty1 is it safe to assume you're Rusty1 AKA Rusty1_64 ? |
| 05:14.46 | Rusty1 | martianixor: it is, and cross posting to #debian if using mint is frowned upon btw |
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| 05:15.41 | tacoinanus | Hello folks! |
| 05:15.48 | martianixor | Rusty1: well as I told you, I've always get back to #debian not for distro specific questions |
| 05:16.07 | martianixor | have always gotten back that is |
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| 05:16.30 | chamuco | hi tacoinanus |
| 05:16.47 | Rusty1 | ok, dont bother the mint channel if using debian pls , and vise versa |
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| 05:16.52 | tacoinanus | I was helping a friend of mine load debian onto their computer, and we got through the installation, this is along side WinVista btw, but after the install it goes straight to grub rescue, and I'm kinda at a lost at what to do, I've tried googling, but I can't seem to find anything that works. |
| 05:17.19 | tacoinanus | And I'm really annoyed that help is not a command haha |
| 05:17.23 | martianixor | Rusty1: this has nothing to do with either mint or debian, think of it as asking a group of old friends |
| 05:17.42 | chamuco | tacoinanus what version of Debian were you installing? |
| 05:17.44 | martianixor | about a service that is opening public network ports that it's not supposed to open |
| 05:18.03 | chamuco | matianixor do you have iptables installed? |
| 05:18.11 | martianixor | cause it's a key caching service and it's not supposed to be exposed publicly |
| 05:18.24 | tacoinanus | chamuco: Wheezy |
| 05:18.44 | martianixor | chamuco: yes |
| 05:18.53 | chamuco | k what type of processor did your friend have and what was the exact iso you used? |
| 05:19.52 | tacoinanus | They grabbed it from unetbootin.sourceforge.net and that'd be intel core 2 |
| 05:20.04 | martianixor | chamuco: what do you mean iptables installed, sorry I'm not quite following you there ? |
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| 05:20.15 | martianixor | chamuco: are you asking if I have a firewall in place ? |
| 05:21.19 | martianixor | Rusty1 there's a very strange question that is always popping on my mind during recent years |
| 05:21.53 | chamuco | martianixor yes i am asking if you use a firewall and if it is iptables |
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| 05:22.14 | martianixor | Rusty1: is there another channel you prefer if I ask you that question on instead of here? |
| 05:22.25 | martianixor | chamuco: that's affirmative |
| 05:22.43 | chamuco | tacoinanus i wouldnt trust anything to do with unetbootin lol |
| 05:22.43 | martianixor | chamuco: but still I'm concerned about open ports that I did NOT open myself |
| 05:23.03 | chamuco | martianixor yes i would be concerned as well |
| 05:23.16 | chamuco | that is why i asked if you had a firewall |
| 05:23.23 | tacoinanus | chamuco: Haha, I was afraid of that. I'll redo the thing. I only came along for their moral support. |
| 05:23.27 | tacoinanus | chamuco: thank you! |
| 05:23.43 | chamuco | do you frequently used gpg to send encrypted messages? |
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| 05:23.51 | chamuco | tacoinanus |
| 05:24.02 | chamuco | i would recommend downloading the iso straight from the debian site |
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| 05:24.15 | chamuco | and all you need to do to make a live usb is to use dd command |
| 05:24.32 | martianixor | cause if I didn't it might mean my firewall was useless when those ports were open |
| 05:24.49 | martianixor | or it might mean that it's an action made using a legitimate channel |
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| 05:25.30 | chamuco | martianixor what type of exchange clients do you have? |
| 05:25.42 | chamuco | any type of exchange |
| 05:25.49 | martianixor | chamuco: elaborate please |
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| 05:26.23 | chamuco | well something might be using gpg for encryption to communicate back and forth with a another server |
| 05:26.37 | martianixor | not that I know of |
| 05:26.46 | chamuco | so what type of backup or chat clients do you use? |
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| 05:26.57 | tacoinanus | chamuco: I've been going around irc places for help before, but you seem to be on top of shit. Kudos to you for helping so many people all at once |
| 05:26.59 | martianixor | unless you're talking about something local, which might be X may be? |
| 05:27.16 | ger1e_ | tacoianus indeed |
| 05:27.23 | martianixor | chamuco: no backup |
| 05:27.34 | martianixor | chamuco: hexchat, jitsi |
| 05:27.46 | ger1e_ | chamuco: torchat |
| 05:27.55 | chamuco | tacoinanus I'm not a pro at Debian but I come here to learn what I can from others or to share the little I do know. Last night we had a discussion of unetbootin and I swear a ton of people had negative feedback of unetbootin |
| 05:28.09 | chamuco | i personally have not had any luck with unetbootin in the past |
| 05:28.26 | ger1e | chamuco Rufus, UUI |
| 05:28.43 | OSVG | unetbootin is fickle, Rufus is more reliable lately in producing bootable media. |
| 05:29.06 | chamuco | gerle, OSVG, what is your input on unetbootin? |
| 05:29.20 | ger1e | It worked for me but I prefer UUI |
| 05:29.25 | ger1e | and rufus |
| 05:29.48 | chamuco | tacoinanus are you familiar with using dd command to create a live bootable usb from a debian iso? |
| 05:30.12 | martianixor | Rusty1: I've noticed that people get offended by me talking to them recently any ideas why? |
| 05:30.12 | martianixor | telling by the few minutes I've been posting here |
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| 05:31.23 | martianixor | chamuco: and the only recent addition is sflphone by the way, for testing purposes |
| 05:31.38 | martianixor | chamuco: pidgin as well |
| 05:31.46 | chamuco | wait, sflphone? |
| 05:31.53 | martianixor | yes |
| 05:31.57 | chamuco | let me read on that |
| 05:32.01 | chamuco | that might be it |
| 05:32.01 | martianixor | chamuco: that's only today |
| 05:32.13 | martianixor | chamuco: yes that's my doubt too |
| 05:32.18 | ger1e | anybody knows how can I get the MATE sound control while using Xfce? Xfce one doesn1t recognise my keyboard with volume buttons |
| 05:32.25 | chamuco | when did you notice your gnupg-agent was using those ports? |
| 05:32.29 | martianixor | but I tried to re-open it and quit it but that didn't reproduce the issue |
| 05:32.36 | Rusty1 | martianixor: given the time of day EU an US #gnupg might be more active during daylight hours |
| 05:32.39 | martianixor | chamuco: yes today also |
| 05:32.41 | chamuco | gerle what keyboard? |
| 05:32.48 | ger1e | cheap genius |
| 05:32.56 | ger1e | but it worked flawlessly with MATE |
| 05:33.01 | ger1e | not so much with Xfce |
| 05:33.04 | tacoinanus | chamuco: yeah, I normally use arch myself, I was just coming along to help my friends out with the installation of debian, as they were going from fedora, and didn't want to mess up the windows partition. |
| 05:33.13 | Rusty1 | ##networking might also be worth a visist |
| 05:33.20 | martianixor | Rusty1: :) thanks I already know that too, as you know we have to be patient a bit on IRC for people to get a chance to read and reply |
| 05:33.37 | martianixor | Rusty1: Bingo that's one channel I've been missing |
| 05:33.59 | chamuco | martianixor did you follow instructions on a site to install stlphone? |
| 05:34.06 | chamuco | if so can you provide link? |
| 05:34.11 | martianixor | chamuco: no |
| 05:34.23 | martianixor | chamuco: I only have it through packages |
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| 05:35.47 | chamuco | martianixor i have never heard of stlphone but i wonder if it is similar to redphone for smartphones which i know encrypts the data |
| 05:36.20 | martianixor | well I've read somewhere that it's similar to twinkle |
| 05:36.25 | chamuco | gerle i use debian with xfce and am having keyboard hotkey issues as well |
| 05:36.41 | martianixor | may be not, anyways it's used as a sip soft phone |
| 05:37.00 | ger1e | chamuco yeah it sucks I have no idea what to do |
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| 05:38.05 | chamuco | martianixor I have not used sflphone before but i see some documentation that it uses port 55060 |
| 05:38.15 | chamuco | what were your open ports again? |
| 05:38.27 | chamuco | gerle let me see if i can find support |
| 05:39.49 | martianixor | chamuco: no that's normal for it to use open ports, but my issue is with gnupg-aget specifically it is what opened the other ports |
| 05:40.00 | martianixor | specifically 2 ports |
| 05:40.14 | martianixor | 2 udp ports to be more precise |
| 05:40.14 | chamuco | gerle have you checked here for driver? http://www.geniusnet.com/Genius/wSite/sp?xdUrl=/wSite/productDownload/download.jsp&ctNode=85&mp=1 |
| 05:40.16 | tacoinanus | Thanks again, chamuco! Bye everyone! |
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| 05:40.25 | chamuco | no problem tacoinanus |
| 05:40.40 | ger1e | chamuco no not yet |
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| 05:40.52 | ger1e | is there a linux one? |
| 05:41.05 | chamuco | depends on your model |
| 05:41.09 | chamuco | whats the model number? |
| 05:41.26 | chamuco | martianixor let me keep reading up on this if you dont mind |
| 05:41.39 | ger1e | KB 220e |
| 05:41.42 | martianixor | sure :) take your time, I'm doing the same too |
| 05:41.43 | chamuco | i wish I had the answer but I am not familiar with sflphone |
| 05:42.06 | martianixor | no that's fine you already confirmed my doubts |
| 05:42.12 | chamuco | but would you agree that it is a big coincidence that those ports were opened the same time as sflphone install? |
| 05:42.26 | ger1e | there are no coincidences |
| 05:42.29 | ger1e | I believe :D |
| 05:42.29 | chamuco | gerle checking now for linux support |
| 05:42.40 | ger1e | thanks man I really appreciate it |
| 05:42.48 | ger1e | brb |
| 05:42.53 | martianixor | of course, that's actually was my first guess, but when I couldn't reproduce the issue I turned to every channel to ask, may be someone was exposed to that before |
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| 05:43.20 | chamuco | martianixor i could test this for your to replicate it as i dont have sflphone installed |
| 05:43.30 | martianixor | reason why I'm here is that #debian is my all times fav ;-) |
| 05:43.37 | chamuco | i can test by checking my iptables before and after my install |
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| 05:44.01 | chamuco | i just started using Debian and it is my fav compared to ubuntu |
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| 05:44.31 | chamuco | but i consider arch, centos, and gentoo on different playing fields so i have favorites there too lol |
| 05:44.48 | martianixor | chamuco: oh hold on... I think a reboot could tell me some info, but the problem is that I don't want to lose the current state of the system in case I didn't lose it already since we're talking network activity here |
| 05:45.29 | martianixor | chamuco: bingo |
| 05:45.32 | martianixor | I have it open |
| 05:45.39 | chamuco | martianixor what did you find? |
| 05:45.41 | ger1e | re |
| 05:45.50 | martianixor | but not sure if it's the update manager or sflphone |
| 05:46.15 | chamuco | gerle still reading up on the keyboard |
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| 05:46.34 | ger1e | about phones: I use an old blackberry bold 9700 - somebody told me that at one point those were really anti survaillence |
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| 05:46.44 | ger1e | okay thanks |
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| 05:49.35 | chamuco | martianixor i cannot find anything to support my assumption |
| 05:49.53 | chamuco | i can test but it will take me about 30 minutes or so |
| 05:49.55 | chamuco | is that ok? |
| 05:50.05 | ger1e | chamuco I found threads about creating the shortcuts for the multimedia keyes instantly, but thats a lot of effort |
| 05:50.09 | martianixor | yes me too still not sure how that port was open again |
| 05:50.32 | martianixor | chamuco: and yes if you're interested I don't mind, I'll grab a cup of tea |
| 05:50.34 | ger1e | I might just switch back to mate |
| 05:51.08 | chamuco | gerle I wonder how mate mapped those keys in a way debian cant? |
| 05:51.26 | chamuco | i mean xfce can't |
| 05:51.48 | chamuco | i do know that xfce is alot lighter than most other DE's |
| 05:51.52 | ger1e | I have no idea |
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| 05:52.47 | chamuco | gerle check this out |
| 05:52.49 | chamuco | https://wiki.xfce.org/faq#keyboard |
| 05:53.20 | chamuco | gerle sometimes the things that take the most effort are the most rewarding lol |
| 05:53.52 | ger1e | indeed lol |
| 05:54.18 | chamuco | gerle are you familiar with finding out the keycode for certain keys on our keyboard |
| 05:54.19 | chamuco | ? |
| 05:54.31 | chamuco | lol *your keyboard |
| 05:54.44 | ger1e | No not at all but like I said I found a thread... it feels like rocket science to me though |
| 05:54.56 | ger1e | :( |
| 05:55.27 | chamuco | gerle send me your thread and i will look up how to find your keycode so we can try the link i sent you |
| 05:55.53 | chamuco | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:56.26 | chamuco | martianixor i am booting a virtual guest of debian wheezy now |
| 05:56.32 | chamuco | that is what your running correct? |
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| 05:56.43 | martianixor | chamuco: no not this box |
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| 05:57.03 | martianixor | chamuco: it's a box based on Debian testing |
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| 05:57.36 | martianixor | chamuco: are you able to get sflphone through debian packages ? |
| 05:58.23 | chamuco | martianixor im sorry i assumed it was on a debian box |
| 05:58.40 | martianixor | chamuco: it's OK :) thanks for help though |
| 05:59.40 | martianixor | chamuco: however I'm still interested in knowing how is it possible that gnupg-agent is listening on udp ports anyways, I posted on gnupg hopefully I'll get a reply or I'll come across more info on that on the web whichever happens first who knows |
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| 06:00.10 | chamuco | martianixor, when running slfphone, can you fnd if the open ports map back to it? |
| 06:00.26 | chamuco | like how you find that those ports mapped to gnupg-agent? |
| 06:00.37 | chamuco | gerle i havent forgotten about you |
| 06:00.41 | martianixor | chamuco: if you're talking about the 2 udp ports in question, No they map back to gnupg-agent itself ! |
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| 06:01.03 | martianixor | chamuco: the process that had the ports opened |
| 06:01.27 | martianixor | chamuco: if you issue netstat -tunlp you can see that |
| 06:01.51 | martianixor | each port and the PID "Process ID" |
| 06:02.14 | chamuco | martianixor what if you kill the process for gnupg-agent, close the open ports, and try running sflphone to see if you get any errors? |
| 06:02.18 | ger1e | okok |
| 06:02.21 | ger1e | thx |
| 06:02.32 | martianixor | chamuco: that's what I meant by trying to reproduce the eorrr |
| 06:02.41 | martianixor | s/eorrr/error/g |
| 06:03.31 | martianixor | chamuco: it didn't work, I couldn't reproduce the issue but a few moments ago gnupg-agent started listening on one udp port as soon as the package manager of this box popped up a notification for update |
| 06:03.40 | martianixor | while I was starting sflphone as well |
| 06:04.15 | chamuco | oh well i wonder if that package-manager uses gnupg-agent to send stats and receive pacakages all encrypted? |
| 06:04.57 | chamuco | martianixor was "s/eorrr/error/g" a sed command you used somewhere? |
| 06:05.20 | martianixor | chamuco: :) that's how I correct my typos in my posts |
| 06:05.26 | chamuco | lol |
| 06:05.40 | chamuco | shit man i hardly correct mine, if it makes sense in some way ill leave it be |
| 06:05.54 | chamuco | as long as my typo isn't offending lol |
| 06:06.27 | martianixor | yes I understand that, you can say I'm very old school |
| 06:07.10 | martianixor | for example you'll rarely find me lolling on IRC :p |
| 06:07.11 | chamuco | gerle you still on? |
| 06:07.25 | chamuco | can you check if you have the showkey command? |
| 06:08.02 | chamuco | martianixor i respect your sed command as if this was vi lol |
| 06:09.06 | martianixor | haha well you can say it's a habit too, I developed that along with another horrible one, which is typing clear in the terminal every now and then :D |
| 06:09.28 | chamuco | lol oh man that is old school |
| 06:09.41 | chamuco | i prefer ctrl+L :P |
| 06:09.44 | martianixor | chamuco: OK that's it I'm going to dig up the source code if available of the so called sflphone |
| 06:10.02 | martianixor | chamuco: that's what I began to use now for like 2 years |
| 06:10.52 | chamuco | martianixor how long have you been an active linux user? |
| 06:11.03 | martianixor | chamuco: along with ctrl+W to lazy backward delete a word with a typo instead of going back and using ctrl+T to reverse the letters lol |
| 06:11.17 | ger1e | chamuco I was able to map the MUTE button |
| 06:12.06 | martianixor | chamuco: to be honest I don't know ..... |
| 06:12.17 | chamuco | gerle awesome! progress |
| 06:12.44 | chamuco | gerle how were you able to do it? |
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| 06:13.17 | chamuco | with showkey command you can find the keycode for that specific key and then configure the keyboard hotkeys to a certain function |
| 06:13.39 | martianixor | chamuco: which is very embarrassing cause by now I'm supposed to be aware what exactly opened those ports |
| 06:13.45 | ger1e | âXF86AudioLowerVolume cannot be mapped |
| 06:14.07 | ger1e | :/ |
| 06:14.46 | ger1e | at the keyboard settings |
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| 06:18.05 | chamuco | gerle how were you able to do it for mute? |
| 06:18.16 | chamuco | gerle and did you check for the showkey command? |
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| 06:21.33 | darxmurf | hi all |
| 06:22.08 | chamuco | hi darxmurf |
| 06:23.11 | chamuco | martianixor dont be embarrassed, as much as we try to keep on eye on everything there are times where a program will sneak something by |
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| 06:23.39 | chamuco | which is why i wanted to test if that was sflphone since it was at the same time you found your issue |
| 06:23.40 | srg | What's the recommended way to manage daemons? `service foo [start|stop]` or `/etc/init.d/foo [start|stop]` ? |
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| 06:26.18 | martianixor | chamuco: yes I'm still on it though, trying to reproduce this issue or trigger those ports to open again |
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| 06:27.15 | chamuco | srg i would recommend /etc/init.d/foo start/stop |
| 06:28.16 | chamuco | srg actually it looks like service is more recommended |
| 06:28.42 | srg | chamuco: Ok. I think it changed with the systemd stuff, but I can't keep track |
| 06:28.51 | chamuco | lol yes i wanted to say that |
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| 06:29.10 | chamuco | /etc/init.d/ is the systemV standard |
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| 06:29.53 | chamuco | srg but services is part of upstart, not systemd |
| 06:30.01 | srg | ah |
| 06:30.06 | srg | moving back to windows xp |
| 06:30.16 | chamuco | srg nooooooooooooooo |
| 06:30.17 | srg | (joke) |
| 06:30.19 | chamuco | lol |
| 06:30.19 | anonnumberanon | I can't watch the video on that evil web page can somebody help me please? http://www.photographybay.com/2015/02/07/fox-news-guest-crashes-drone-while-talking-about-drone-safety/ |
| 06:30.19 | srg | lol |
| 06:30.45 | chamuco | srg i was about to jump off the cliff strapped to a rope to get you back lol |
| 06:31.22 | chamuco | hi anonnumberanon, what browser are you using? |
| 06:31.31 | anonnumberanon | Iceweasel chamuco |
| 06:31.49 | anonnumberanon | 31.4.0 |
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| 06:32.45 | chamuco | anonnumberanon do you have flash plugin installed in iceweasel? |
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| 06:33.59 | chamuco | anonnumberranon if you dont have it installed, apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree |
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| 06:36.37 | anonnumberanon | yes chamuco I do have it installed, this is a mystery then. |
| 06:37.09 | chamuco | anonnumberanon i am watching that video on iceweasel on debian wheezy at the moment |
| 06:37.25 | anonnumberanon | I found it on Youtube. |
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| 06:37.36 | anonnumberanon | me too iceweasel and wheezy, I don't know why it wouldn |
| 06:37.40 | fishcooker | i have itegno modem on /dev/ttyUSB0 i want to link it to something eg: /dev/modem.. what should i do? |
| 06:37.53 | anonnumberanon | 't work for me, I do have a lot of ads blocked and the likes |
| 06:38.25 | anonnumberanon | but this is the first time this happens, is it possible that they won't let the video stream pass for that reason in their javascript codes? |
| 06:38.29 | chamuco | anonnumberanon i would recommend clearing cache? |
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| 06:40.12 | chamuco | fishcooker maybe creating a symlink would work? |
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| 06:40.43 | ger1e | chamuco |
| 06:40.45 | chamuco | ln -sf /dev/ttyUSB0 /dev/modem? |
| 06:40.45 | ger1e | I DID IT |
| 06:40.46 | fishcooker | this device will hook on ttyUSB1 sometimes |
| 06:40.47 | ger1e | IT WORKS |
| 06:40.55 | chamuco | gerle sweet! |
| 06:40.57 | anonnumberanon | chamuco, cleared the cache to no avail |
| 06:40.59 | chamuco | how did you do it? |
| 06:41.00 | ger1e | I mapped amixer set Master 5%- |
| 06:41.04 | ger1e | and amixer set Master 5%+ |
| 06:41.08 | ger1e | to the keys |
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| 06:41.10 | ger1e | And it works |
| 06:41.12 | ger1e | !!! |
| 06:41.13 | dpkg | I'm not your csh prompt! |
| 06:41.14 | chamuco | awesome man way to go |
| 06:41.40 | ger1e | Also mute is amixer set Master toggle |
| 06:42.17 | chamuco | fishcooker this is what i had found http://www.oreilly.com/openbook/debian/book/ch11_02.html |
| 06:43.18 | chamuco | anonnumberanon do you have any other browsers to try? |
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| 06:43.57 | anonnumberanon | chamuco, I wish. I only know there is Lynx but I think it is a text only browser that holds only inside a terminal. |
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| 06:44.34 | anonnumberanon | I see that the chromium-browser package is available |
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| 06:46.26 | chamuco | yes chromium is good but you might have to install pepper flash plugin |
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| 06:47.29 | fishcooker | chamuco: how to ensure that this usb device(ie: itegno modem) will be hook on ttyUSB0 only? |
| 06:49.41 | chamuco | sorry fishcooker not sure how to map that exclusively |
| 06:50.09 | anonnumberanon | thanks chamuco |
| 06:50.40 | chamuco | anonnumberanon i wish i knew what the issue was in iceweasel |
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| 06:51.24 | fishcooker | thankyou chamuco |
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| 06:53.38 | chamuco | no problem fishcooker |
| 06:54.47 | darxmurf | I have a server where ppl can login using kerberos and ldap. Now I have a storage folder for 4 guys, they are from 4 different groups an 4 different login names. How can I give them access to this folder and restrict it for other ppl ? |
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| 06:55.17 | darxmurf | Using ACL ? |
| 06:56.33 | chamuco | darxmurf you cant create a new group just for those 4 people to have acess to that file? |
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| 07:01.42 | darxmurf | chamuco: as those guys are using kerberos/ldap to connect I don't think so |
| 07:01.56 | darxmurf | accounts are in an Active Directory domain |
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| 07:04.51 | darxmurf | it makes it a bit more complicated :-/ |
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| 07:08.25 | valdyn | darxmurf: you can put those people in groups, no matter where accounts are stored. Via /etc/group |
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| 07:09.39 | darxmurf | good to know, I did not even try as in the ldap they have different groups, I will try ! |
| 07:09.52 | darxmurf | else I will go for ACL |
| 07:10.13 | valdyn | darxmurf: if "files" and "ldap" is specified in /etc/nsswitch.conf then both will be used |
| 07:10.30 | valdyn | darxmurf: or only "ldap" if only "ldap" is specified |
| 07:11.06 | darxmurf | group: compat ldap |
| 07:11.22 | valdyn | darxmurf: thats ok too, for your purpose |
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| 08:01.22 | jjaksk | hello |
| 08:01.27 | jjaksk | ... |
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| 08:02.35 | jjaksk | hi |
| 08:02.36 | jjaksk | err |
| 08:02.46 | jjaksk | !help |
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| 08:03.32 | ponky | jjaksk: jstu ask |
| 08:03.33 | jjaksk | !dict clever |
| 08:03.40 | dpkg | Dictionary 'clever' (1 of 6): showing inventiveness and skill; "a clever gadget"; "the cunning maneuvers leading to his success"; "an ingenious solution to the problem" . |
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| 08:03.54 | jjaksk | huh |
| 08:03.56 | jjaksk | ok |
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| 08:04.29 | jjaksk | !dict analytic |
| 08:04.33 | dpkg | Dictionary 'analytic' (1 of 6): using or skilled in using analysis (i.e., separating a whole --intellectual or substantial--into its elemental parts or basic principles); "an analytic experiment"; "an analytic approach"; "a keenly analytic man"; "analytical reasoning"; "an analytical mind" . |
| 08:05.01 | jjaksk | hi pony |
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| 08:05.38 | jelly | jjaksk: hi, do you have a tech support question about Debian? |
| 08:05.45 | jjaksk | no why |
| 08:06.10 | jelly | jjaksk: this channel is used for Debian tech support |
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| 08:06.21 | jjaksk | oh ok so does that mean I have to leave |
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| 08:06.40 | jjaksk | oh ok so does that mean I have to leave |
| 08:06.56 | jjaksk | !google blumpkin |
| 08:07.08 | jelly | it means if you want to chat about something else, do it somewhere else, please. For example, ##chat is an appropriate channel for general socializing chat |
| 08:07.24 | jjaksk | oh ok |
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| 08:07.44 | jjaksk | !dict blumpkin |
| 08:07.46 | dpkg | could not find definition for blumpkin |
| 08:08.03 | jelly | jjaksk: keep this channel clean for tech support, and don't call on the bot for unrelated stuff |
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| 08:09.32 | jjaksk | ok |
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| 08:10.59 | jjaksk | !news |
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| 08:11.58 | akon | I want to use portable chrome or firefox browser from usb in such a way that the user data too resides on the usb. so i can use it at home and work computer, both running same debian version. i dont want to use the browser sync. |
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| 08:16.13 | darxmurf | valdyn: it works fine for this group story, thanks ! |
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| 08:16.53 | akon | ??? |
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| 08:17.54 | shay_shay | akon tails? |
| 08:18.02 | Pinchiukas | Dnsmasq fails to start on jessie. To be more exact it starts and exits after a couple of minutes with this: Active: failed (Result: timeout) since Mon 2015-02-09 10:11:03 EET; 1min 21s ago |
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| 08:18.23 | akon | I want to use portable chrome or firefox browser from usb in such a way that the user data too resides on the usb. so i can use it at home and work computer, both running same debian version. i dont want to use the browser sync. |
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| 08:19.05 | IceGuest_78 | brown dick |
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| 08:20.16 | darxmurf | interesting |
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| 08:22.31 | darxmurf | valdyn: and if I want to add a samba server over it, it's still possible or I have to add my debian box in the active directory ? |
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| 08:24.02 | shay_shay | akon where does firefox store its data? |
| 08:24.15 | shay_shay | you could try mounting a partition to that place |
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| 08:26.18 | shay_shay | ~/.mozilla/firefox |
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| 08:26.55 | shay_shay | or... change some enviromental variables in bash before you launch it |
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| 08:28.04 | akon | what happened to this group today. hardly any responses. |
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| 08:29.13 | petemc | in western timezones people are sleeping or getting up/going to work |
| 08:29.20 | shay_shay | akon youre not even responding to me |
| 08:30.03 | shay_shay | why do you expect other people to join in if you've proven to ignore the people trying to help you |
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| 08:30.43 | Iridos | shay_shay, it may come as a surprise to you... but the ~1500 people you see in the list are not REALLY all sitting there 24/7 waiting for someone asking a question. they stay logged in, but take short breaks to eat and take a nap |
| 08:31.11 | shay_shay | Iridos, I think you misunderstood, I was helping akon |
| 08:31.14 | Iridos | err, akon |
| 08:31.15 | Iridos | yes |
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| 08:31.31 | Iridos | ^^ |
| 08:31.40 | Iridos | time for the 1st coffee |
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| 08:32.00 | shay_shay | :) |
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| 08:32.23 | akon | shay_shay:sory, did not se ur response |
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| 08:33.24 | Crom_ | anyone using picoLCD? |
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| 08:36.06 | shay_shay | akon, you could make the ~/.mozilla/firefox directory a symlink to a mount point |
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| 08:37.08 | shay_shay | you could write a udev rule which would set permissions and also remove stuff from the mount point when you plug in your usb |
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| 08:38.11 | shay_shay | so if something happens to get written to the mount point it will be cleared automatically |
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| 08:38.50 | shay_shay | nvm :/ |
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| 08:40.01 | akon | ok, i will look into it. |
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| 08:40.47 | shay_shay | akon, you could have iceweasel automatically opening when you put the usb in |
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| 08:41.09 | wincyj | elo |
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| 08:41.24 | akon | iceweasel is old in debian. can i update it? |
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| 08:43.13 | shay_shay | akon, I would backport it from experimental |
| 08:43.14 | jelly | akon: debian stable tracks the ESR release of Debian. There may be appropriate builds on http://mozilla.debian.net/ |
| 08:43.21 | jelly | shay_shay: you wouldn't |
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| 08:43.36 | shay_shay | jelly, i would |
| 08:43.53 | jelly | do eet, then tell us how much time it took |
| 08:44.07 | shay_shay | ok |
| 08:44.56 | shay_shay | in my vm :P |
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| 08:53.06 | gXen | its the 13th b-day tomorrow for debian room |
| 08:54.30 | TheQuestionmark | It's an exciting feeling to do a dist-upgrade and to realize that suddenly your netbook's wifi adapter became a lot more stable. |
| 08:55.24 | gXen | how to install libtdb.so.1? it prevents me from opening vim |
| 08:57.02 | shay_shay | ok building... goodnight jelly :) |
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| 08:58.32 | checkItOut | What's distribution |
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| 09:00.13 | jelly | gXen: that shouldn't happen, do you have a custom build of vim? What's the exact message you get? |
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| 09:02.03 | gXen | :jelly: its fixed now.. uninstalling samba, and reinstalling libtdb1 helped. this is one of the most broken/fixed servers there is.. |
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| 09:03.18 | jelly | checkItOut: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linux_distribution -- an explanation of the term |
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| 09:04.06 | gXen | jelly: was that directed to me? |
| 09:04.29 | jelly | nope |
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| 09:08.42 | checkItOut | I mean to gXen what the distro he is running |
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| 09:13.32 | checkItOut | 3x anyway. |
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| 09:16.20 | darxmurf | do I need to add my linux box in the Active Directory domain to use kerberos as Auth for my samba shares ? |
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| 09:17.23 | darxmurf | I configured samba to use ADS and kerberos but when I try to access my share from a windows machine, I can login but then it says the domain controller is not available |
| 09:17.29 | darxmurf | and in my samba logs I can see |
| 09:17.31 | darxmurf | <PROTECTED> |
| 09:17.46 | darxmurf | <PROTECTED> |
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| 09:25.19 | Iridos | looks like a windowsy question to me |
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| 09:25.53 | darxmurf | well |
| 09:26.18 | darxmurf | it's a debian box, configured to allow windows users to login with kerberos. This works fine over SSH |
| 09:26.29 | MCMic | Hello. I got crap in /etc/apache2/mods-available/php5.conf so I wanted to put back the package version but I donât find how to do that. I tried --reinstall, and even after moving the file it does not put it back |
| 09:26.45 | darxmurf | but this box also have some samba shares and I'm trying to conf samba to use Kerberos too to allow guys or not |
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| 09:27.03 | MCMic | Is there any way to ask apt to install the package version of a file? |
| 09:27.29 | valdyn | !confmiss |
| 09:27.30 | dpkg | You have to especially tell the packaging system to reinstall config files because when they are gone, it is assumed that you want them to stay deleted. "aptitude -o DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' reinstall $packagename" will restore them (man dpkg for details). If the package uses <ucf> for config file management, ask me about <ucf confmiss>. |
| 09:27.33 | babilen | dpkg: tell MCMic -about confnew |
| 09:27.33 | valdyn | MCMic: ^^ |
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| 09:28.13 | valdyn | oops, confnew may be better.. |
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| 09:28.46 | MCMic | too late, used confmiss |
| 09:28.48 | babilen | MCMic: You could also download the package (e.g. "dget package_name"), unpack it with "dpkg -x the_package.deb" (it will create usr, etc, ... in CWD !) and then move the configuration file in place. Please note that maintainer scripts (if any) will not be executed. |
| 09:28.49 | MCMic | it worked |
| 09:28.52 | MCMic | Thanks |
| 09:29.26 | babilen | enjoy |
| 09:30.10 | gXen | vi cant find syntax.vim - after search: syntax.vim is not on this machine. reinstalling vim doesnt solve this. whats next? |
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| 09:31.20 | babilen | gXen: "ls -la /usr/share/vim/vim7*/syntax/syntax.vim" results in? |
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| 09:34.40 | Iridos | I really like the way in which that line is entirely intuitive, easy to guess and easy to remember: apt-get -o DPkg::Options::="--force-confnew" --reinstall install <packagename> |
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| 09:35.50 | gXen | babilen: No such file or directory |
| 09:36.25 | babilen | gXen: Sounds as if you messed up your vim-runtime installation. Do you have an explanation for why that file might be missing? |
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| 09:37.15 | gXen | babilen: no.. its an old server I recently got my hands on.. the previous guy never used vim |
| 09:37.18 | babilen | gXen: Could you install debsums and then run "debsums -s vim-runtime" and report/paste any output? |
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| 09:37.39 | babilen | (use http://paste.debian.net for pasting if there are multiple lines) |
| 09:38.15 | gXen | any chance that discloses sensitive info? |
| 09:38.24 | Ironhand | is extlinux still supported as boot loader in Jessie? I noticed the update-extlinux script disappeared, meaning the extlinux config file can no longer be auto generated; or did I overlook something? |
| 09:39.24 | babilen | gXen: No, that will just compute the checksum of each file in the vim-runtime package and compare that to the expected value. If one of them differs it will be listed. That means that if you don't get any output all files are okay (remove the -s switch to see the report for all files) |
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| 09:39.28 | gXen | http://paste.debian.net/144647/ |
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| 09:40.34 | babilen | gXen: Okay, so vim-runtime is pretty much missing. What does "whereis vim", "which vim", "dpkg -l 'vim*'" give you? |
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| 09:41.28 | gXen | http://paste.debian.net/144649/ |
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| 09:41.46 | gXen | which vim: /usr/bin/vim |
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| 09:42.49 | gXen | http://paste.debian.net/144650/ |
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| 09:45.12 | babilen | gXen: Okay, thank you. Looks as if someone decided that it is a good idea to manually remove some leaves in the /usr/share tree. I'd recommend to reinstall vim-runtime (e.g. "apt-get --reinstall install vim-runtime") and to check if any other packages have fallen victim to the "great purge" in the past. To do that run "debsums -s" without specifying a package. |
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| 09:47.12 | gXen | debsums -s gives a few thousand lines |
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| 09:48.58 | gXen | babilen: thanks, reinstalling vim-runtime did the trick.. |
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| 09:49.47 | gXen | babilen: but debsums -s gives thousands of lines.. should I care and do something about it? its a backup webserver, which is doing its job.. |
| 09:50.19 | gXen | :babilen, my worst fear is that 'make' doesnt work anymore, even after reinstalling build-essential |
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| 09:51.13 | babilen | gXen: Well, all the reported files differ from what they *should* be. There can be various reasons for that, but it is definitely something that I'd look into. |
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| 09:53.59 | gXen | babilen: ty |
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| 10:03.21 | Iridos | actually... is there some "soft" restart for iceweasel? |
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| 10:11.06 | darxmurf | is it mandatory to include a linux machine in a Windows AD domain to use samba and kerberos ?! |
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| 10:12.47 | ThKo | Good morning guys, which file is the best file to define PATH-variables for ALL accounts? /etc/.bashrc? Or which one? Thanks |
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| 10:14.04 | Junka | hi, aptitude informs me about new packages after update |
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| 10:14.17 | Junka | how do i see which are those |
| 10:14.27 | oskie | ThKo: /etc/profile or /etc/profile.d/something |
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| 10:15.06 | ThKo | oskie: Ok and this file is loaded when I login with root by ssh but also logged in by www-data with php and command exec? |
| 10:15.24 | oskie | ThKo: I think so, yeah |
| 10:15.30 | ThKo | Ok thanks a lot oskie :) |
| 10:16.56 | oskie | can't guarantee it though... |
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| 10:17.09 | oskie | if it doesn't work you can always try /etc/bash.bashrc |
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| 10:20.45 | Junka | aptitude informs me about new packages after update |
| 10:20.48 | Junka | how do i see which are those |
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| 10:24.58 | nkuttler | Junka: use the -u option with apt-get to see them before. to see them after.. i guess you'll have to check the dpkg log |
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| 10:29.57 | Brigo | Junka, apt-get upgrade |
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| 10:57.03 | Halbard | Hi, where does skype stores all its data on Debian systems? Is it only in home folder or somewhere else too? I want to use skype but only dynamic package, without installation. |
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| 10:58.28 | petn-randall | Halbard: Usually in the home directory ~/.Skype. What do you mean with "dynamic package"? |
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| 10:58.55 | lzx | ~/skype/etc/config | /var/[skype-info] | /etc/skype/config | ~/.skype |
| 10:59.10 | lzx | i am guessing |
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| 10:59.52 | petn-randall | lzx: None of them are right. |
| 11:00.31 | lzx | try the package directory of skype, look for some etc config |
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| 11:01.06 | lzx | and see what is the default config of data directory of skype |
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| 11:01.32 | petn-randall | lzx: Skype can't write to /etc/*, since it's started as a regular user and is not a daemon. |
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| 11:02.05 | Halbard | petn-randall: on skype website skype is available for download for many distributions and one of them is "Dynamic", an archive which contains everything needed to run skype out of the box |
| 11:02.44 | lzx | it should contain a config file, which may be helpful to locate data |
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| 11:03.03 | Halbard | that is perfectly suitable for my needs so i just wanted to know where skype writes its data after being run. |
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| 11:03.23 | petn-randall | Halbard: Oh, that must be new, didn't see that before. |
| 11:03.41 | petn-randall | lzx: I already answered where skype saves data, there's no need to guess. |
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| 11:04.29 | lzx | should take petn-randall's suggestion then |
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| 11:07.36 | Halbard | ok, that sounds fine and safe to try. it is MS stuff, so I'm sure you understand my concern ;-D |
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| 11:08.10 | petn-randall | Halbard: Unfortunately I have to use it in $dayjob. :/ |
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| 11:16.50 | t4nk407 | hello eveyone |
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| 11:17.02 | t4nk407 | what is the stratup debian password |
| 11:17.08 | t4nk407 | startup* |
| 11:17.38 | t4nk407 | during installation |
| 11:17.47 | t4nk407 | first password to login in the system |
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| 11:18.18 | petn-randall | t4nk407: The one you have set. |
| 11:18.36 | petn-randall | t4nk407: There is no default password, if that is what you're asking for. |
| 11:18.37 | t4nk407 | installed on vm |
| 11:18.57 | t4nk407 | it is asking debian password |
| 11:19.05 | petn-randall | t4nk407: How did you install it? |
| 11:19.16 | t4nk407 | i remember when i installed kali, i either wanted |
| 11:19.23 | t4nk407 | it either wanted? |
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| 11:19.57 | petn-randall | t4nk407: If it's Kali, you'll have to look into their documentation. We only know about, and support, Debian. |
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| 11:20.53 | t4nk407 | heeyyyyooo |
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| 11:21.54 | lzx | kalis also need a password during installing (kali-linux-1.0.9a-amd64) |
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| 11:22.21 | t4nk407 | yes i am saying exacly that |
| 11:22.43 | petn-randall | t4nk407: Are you running Kali? |
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| 11:23.04 | t4nk407 | yes i was installing ubuntu i never faced with it |
| 11:23.13 | t4nk407 | nope iam running ubuntu |
| 11:23.17 | petn-randall | !ubuntu |
| 11:23.17 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
| 11:23.31 | petn-randall | t4nk407: See above |
| 11:23.41 | t4nk407 | i am running ubuntu!!!1 |
| 11:23.48 | t4nk407 | not ubuntu debian!!!!!!! |
| 11:23.49 | t4nk407 | :DDD |
| 11:24.05 | t4nk407 | sorry my typing |
| 11:24.11 | petn-randall | Yes. Yes, indeed. |
| 11:24.36 | t4nk407 | is there any pasword |
| 11:25.05 | petn-randall | t4nk407: Read the message from dpkg again, we don't support your Ubuntu installation. Ask in #ubuntu. |
| 11:25.08 | lzx | linux installation should always requires a root password setup. unless it is pre-configured which you can look for its manual instead |
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| 11:26.02 | babilen | Either way Ubuntu isn't supported in here |
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| 11:27.16 | t4nk407 | I AM NOT RUNNNÄ°NG UBUNTU |
| 11:27.23 | t4nk407 | I AM RUNNÄ°NG DEBÄ°AN |
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| 11:27.57 | spacekookie | Okay okay, easy. You're not running Ubuntu. Why would anyone think that? |
| 11:28.19 | babilen | t4nk407: Please make up your mind and relax a little. You have also been given all information you need for resolving your particular issue. Have a good day. |
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| 11:30.07 | spacekookie | babilen I think him saying he was using ubuntu was a typo |
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| 11:30.52 | Iridos | happens all the time... the keys for debian and ubuntu are directly next to each other |
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| 11:34.10 | lzx | fancy looking, orange feeling is ubuntu; stubborn looking, dizzy icon is debian. |
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| 11:51.09 | RisKatOr | Merhaba |
| 11:51.18 | RisKatOr | Türkçe bilen birileri var mıdır ? |
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| 11:52.08 | RisKatOr | Debian kurulumu sırasında " CD-ROM'u algıla ve baÄla " adımında takılıp kalıyorum |
| 11:52.08 | TheQuestionmark | There are no packages available for lxqt yet, are they? |
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| 11:52.49 | RisKatOr | " mount /dev/sda /cdrom " komutu iÅe yaramıyor |
| 11:53.42 | jelly | !tr |
| 11:53.43 | dpkg | hmm... tr is t�rk�e yardIm i�in #debian.tr (irc.freenode.net): -- if you need help in turkish, please join #debian.tr on irc.freenode.net. |
| 11:54.22 | RisKatOr | Thanks |
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| 11:56.41 | daemonkeeper | To me this factoid looks very UTF broken. |
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| 12:01.51 | mjt | daemonkeeper: ditto :) |
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| 12:23.56 | ThKo | Hi guys, Iâve added my Android SDK to my headless Debianâ¦Iâve added my PATH-variables to /etc/profile. From command shell it worksâ¦But when I echo my $PATH-variable out of PHP with exec( echo $PATH ) it only returns /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/binâ¦Out of the command shell: /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/local/android-sdk-linux/tools:/usr/local/android-sdk-linux/platform-tools ⦠How can I add the |
| 12:23.57 | ThKo | PATH-variables so that PHP knows this one? Thanks a lot :) |
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| 12:30.14 | adc | ThKo: i |
| 12:31.03 | adc | ThKo: I *think* you have to add the paths to an 'export PATH=<desired paths>:$PATH' to /etc/profile |
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| 12:31.41 | Vroomfondel | ThKo: check that PATH isn't being set separately in your httpd config or in your httpd user's profile |
| 12:31.42 | ThKo | adc: Iâve added like this: export ANDROID_HOME=/usr/local/android-sdk-linux |
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| 12:32.03 | Vroomfondel | (assuming you're writing a web app - it shouldn't apply to CLI) |
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| 12:33.07 | ThKo | Vroomfondel: Iâve had this part running. But no backup of my server :D Iâm an idiot⦠|
| 12:33.08 | adc | ThKo: that will not edit your PATH variable |
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| 12:33.45 | ThKo | adc: Full part: |
| 12:33.51 | ThKo | export ANDROID_HOME=/usr/local/android-sdk-linux |
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| 12:33.57 | ThKo | export PATH=${PATH}:$ANDROID_HOME/tools:$ANDROID_HOME/platform-tools |
| 12:34.06 | ThKo | And this too |
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| 12:34.23 | adc | ThKo: ah ok. Which file did you add those lines to? |
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| 12:34.34 | ThKo | adc: /etc/profile |
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| 12:35.47 | mjt | I'd say ~/.profile is a much better place :) |
| 12:35.47 | ThKo | Maybe Iâll try to add to /etc/apache2/envvars |
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| 12:36.08 | ThKo | mjt: But is ~/ not only for the currently logged in user? e.g root |
| 12:36.17 | mjt | yup |
| 12:36.36 | adc | the apache daemon runs as a different user |
| 12:36.43 | ThKo | mjt: Ok, I need the PATH for www-data user |
| 12:37.01 | mjt | that one does not read /etc/profile |
| 12:38.12 | ThKo | Ah I understand |
| 12:38.17 | ThKo | Iâve put it into /etc/apache2/envvars |
| 12:38.27 | ThKo | And now executing echo $PATH returns /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/android-sdk-linux/tools:/usr/local/android-sdk-linux/platform-tools :) :) |
| 12:38.28 | ThKo | THanks guys |
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| 12:41.43 | SOUL_OF_R00T | hello great guys, here is time to say nice morning ! |
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| 12:45.23 | Iridos | and a good morning to you :) |
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| 12:46.55 | SOUL_OF_R00T | guys, anyone can giver me a tip about work with iphone and linux, like if it works fine, i try use an android device but it not supply my expectatives |
| 12:47.05 | SOUL_OF_R00T | i think in try one iphone |
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| 12:49.06 | linux-fox | hi, guys, should i use apt-get or aptitude to manage my system? |
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| 12:50.10 | mjt | linux-fox: it is like asking if you "should" use vi or emacs (or nano, etc) as your text editor... |
| 12:50.20 | ThKo | Itâs me again. So, Iâve added everything to my PATH-varsâ¦Everything is present. But when I try to exec âcordova platform add androidâ my error.log returns âError: ANDROID_HOME is not set and "android" command not in your PATH. You must fulfill at least one of these conditions.ââ¦But when I exec getenv(âANDROID_HOMEâ) it returns everything right. Any hints for me? Thanks :) |
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| 12:52.52 | linux-fox | mjt, which are you using? |
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| 13:00.41 | alienjeff | I'm using Wheezy in a single user, home computer. Do I /need/ to have exim4 installed and running, or can I safely remove it? |
| 13:01.53 | alienjeff | P.S. Thunderbird is what I use for email, if that matters. |
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| 13:02.26 | MrSunshine | hmm can you build just a kernel module ?! ive found a driver i need for a device ... and they provide the C files, a Kconfig and a Makefile ... but i dont want to build my whole kernel ... =) |
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| 13:13.38 | szonek | hi |
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| 13:14.24 | bigterd | is it possible to download an apt-get packages, and dependancies, and save them elswhere? to use gdebi locally later without internet connection? |
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| 13:15.33 | babilen | bigterd: Look into apt-zip, apt-walkabout, "apt-get --download-only", "dget FOO" ... |
| 13:15.53 | szonek | i've a problem with logrotate, it fails but only once a week with: "error creating output file [filename]: File exists" |
| 13:15.57 | babilen | ("apt-get download ...") |
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| 13:16.16 | Iridos | bigterd, also apt-get --print-uris |
| 13:16.25 | bigterd | babilen: 10-4 |
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| 13:16.36 | szonek | it's funny because it fails once a week but it's run with cron.daily |
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| 13:16.59 | babilen | bigterd: I don't follow |
| 13:17.10 | bigterd | making my own custom live debian has been a fail numerous times with several different walkthroughs |
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| 13:17.23 | bigterd | babilen: 10-4 = roger = confirmation = i understand |
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| 13:17.28 | bigterd | radio talk? |
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| 13:18.20 | babilen | bigterd: I am neither into ham radio nor have I had any contact with the army. Thanks for elaborating though :D |
| 13:18.47 | bigterd | 10-4 :) |
| 13:18.52 | Iridos | MrSunshine, yes... packages do that routinely now using dkms and for some common(ish) modules there has been a mechanism in apt for ages to do that... not sure what the steps are if you are to do it manually, though, that case didn't happen often |
| 13:19.05 | babilen | I am also not sure if it would be used anywhere but in the US .. we digress though and I shall now keep quiet :) |
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| 13:20.23 | Iridos | MrSunshine, that tool for some common modules is called module-assistant |
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| 13:20.54 | babilen | MrSunshine: I'd also strongly recommend to look into DKMS |
| 13:20.57 | babilen | dpkg: tell MrSunshine about dkms |
| 13:20.57 | colo-work | (how) can I configure an IP address alias for an interface using debconf/pressed? |
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| 13:21.21 | Iridos | MrSunshine, https://wiki.debian.org/ModuleAssistant ... and /msg dpkg dkms |
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| 13:21.32 | MrSunshine | k =) |
| 13:21.42 | babilen | Didn't we sort of deprecate MA quite some time ago? |
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| 13:23.07 | mjt | linux-fox: I use both... |
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| 13:24.14 | hassoon | is it thanks to the apt cache that when you run sudo apt-get purge whatever; sudo apt-get install whatever, the whatever package just starts getting installed directly instead of gettind downloaded again ? |
| 13:24.45 | echo083 | hello, on a file you can retrieve the access time, modification time and status change time but what is the "status" of a file ? |
| 13:24.50 | babilen | hassoon: They are being saved in /var/cache/apt/archives/ and are not downloaded if they are present there |
| 13:25.04 | echo083 | hassoon, yes indeed |
| 13:25.13 | echo083 | hassoon, you can clean the cache with apt-get clean |
| 13:25.32 | hassoon | echo083: babilen I see, thanks |
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| 13:29.36 | echo083 | what is the status of a file ? |
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| 13:30.17 | babilen | echo083: Do you have a little more context on that? |
| 13:30.33 | echo083 | babilen, when you use the stat command on a file |
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| 13:31.03 | echo083 | babilen, stat /bin/ls |
| 13:31.37 | echo083 | babilen, what is the change date which is refering to change status change |
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| 13:31.38 | echo083 | babilen, but i can't find what is the status of a file |
| 13:31.38 | babilen | I guess that if you change the permissions of a file that it would change its status |
| 13:31.44 | echo083 | babilen, oh let me try |
| 13:32.39 | echo083 | babilen, ok ! status = owner + permission |
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| 13:33.27 | babilen | echo083: yeah, exactly .. essentially the last state to any attribute that define its "status" in their entirety |
| 13:33.51 | babilen | s/state/change :D |
| 13:33.52 | echo083 | babilen, ok so everything which is not concerning file content |
| 13:34.17 | echo083 | babilen, they should have called it file attributes |
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| 13:34.27 | echo083 | babilen, thanks |
| 13:34.56 | babilen | np, it typically helps to look into the corresponding system call manpage (doesn't get you much in this case though) |
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| 13:35.45 | Iridos | into the system call manpage... eww... |
| 13:35.55 | Iridos | next step you dig into the kernel code |
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| 13:36.00 | babilen | yeah, why not? |
| 13:36.32 | echo083 | babilen, me ? i should have looked in the system call manpage ? |
| 13:36.58 | babilen | echo083: "man 2 stat" (but that doesn't help a lot in this case) |
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| 13:37.27 | echo083 | babilen, ok good to know anyway :) |
| 13:37.31 | echo083 | babilen, thanks |
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| 13:48.56 | darxmurf | well apparently I have to include my debian in the Active Directory if I want to auth ppl with kerberos to use smb shares |
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| 13:53.20 | echo083 | darxmurf, just seeing your question i see kerberos you'll have no help here by experience |
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| 13:53.37 | echo083 | darxmurf, your better luck to achieve that is using misc tutorials online |
| 13:54.29 | goose | I'm accessing my debian server via ssh in windows (using cygwin for my ssh client). When I'm in 'htop', I've selected 3 processes I own and want to kill. When I press "F9", it doesn't bring up the kill menu. Everything else works as expected. Anyone have any idea why I can't bring up the kill menu in htop? |
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| 13:55.25 | jelly | goose: you need to have a correct TERM value for your terminal |
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| 13:55.54 | goose | echo $TERM returns "xterm". Is that what I should be looking for? |
| 13:56.10 | darxmurf | echo083: yep I found that but as usual there is 45 different tutorials ... and no absolute "good" way to do it |
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| 13:56.13 | darxmurf | :) |
| 13:56.17 | jelly | goose: that would be right if your terminal was indeed xterm |
| 13:56.56 | darxmurf | but talked with an old linux guy here and he told me the same, samba+kerberos is always a pain |
| 13:57.07 | jelly | goose: but it's more likely you're running inside the windows console. cygwin also has a native rxvt build that might work better |
| 13:57.09 | goose | That's the kind that's selected in the cygwin options. Choices are: xterm, xterm-256color, xterm-vt220, vt100, vt220 |
| 13:57.22 | DanteLA | apt-get install -t experimental linux-headers-3.18.0-trunk-amd64 <-> can't install because it depends on linux-compiler-gcc-4.9-x86, which won't install because it depends on gcc-4.9 which 'won't install'. Any ideas on how to fix? |
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| 13:57.48 | goose | jelly: I'll google into that. thanks for the point in the possible right direction. |
| 13:57.50 | echo083 | darxmurf, the best you can do is to select a good one |
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| 13:58.21 | jelly | goose: just for fun, try setting TERM=cygwin in the remote ssh debian shell |
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| 13:58.52 | goose | alright, one sec |
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| 13:59.25 | jelly | DanteLA: experimental is only supposed to work with sid. Which repos do you have enabled apart from experimental? |
| 13:59.27 | goose | same result |
| 14:00.01 | jelly | oh well |
| 14:00.03 | DanteLA | jelly: Yeah, I was just looking into that. Will add 'testing' repo |
| 14:00.19 | jelly | DanteLA: are you using stable/wheezy at present? |
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| 14:00.55 | jelly | DanteLA: if you are, adding testing will mess up your system (don't do that) |
| 14:01.30 | DanteLA | jelly: I was, but I had to give up on that because I have issues with sandy bridge GPU hangs. Now I will try different version of relevant packages to see if I can make it work |
| 14:01.40 | DanteLA | jelly: Messing it up doesn't matter anymore |
| 14:01.54 | DanteLA | Besides, I have a backup |
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| 14:02.07 | Iridos | DanteLA, that sounds like a kernel thing... you should try the newest kernel from backports |
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| 14:02.24 | Iridos | DanteLA, hmm, or of course xorg... but then you might just upgrade to jessie anyway |
| 14:02.39 | jelly | DanteLA: you did try kernel and xserver-xorg-video-intel from wheezy-backports? |
| 14:02.42 | DanteLA | Iridos: I did try 3.16 to no avail. Intel lists https://01.org/linuxgraphics/downloads 3.18 as current recommended so now I will try that |
| 14:02.49 | DanteLA | But it doesn't install without gcc-4.9 |
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| 14:03.25 | jelly | upgrade the whole system to jessie first, then, and see how that works first, before getting a newer kernel |
| 14:03.47 | jelly | changes in Xorg and mesa might be enough to make things work |
| 14:03.57 | DanteLA | jelly: Then I should be able to install 3.18 also from experimental? |
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| 14:04.10 | jelly | that will also be easier to do, yes |
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| 14:04.19 | DanteLA | Ok, will try that. thanks |
| 14:04.26 | jelly | !wheezy->jessie |
| 14:04.34 | jelly | dpkg: wheezy->jessie |
| 14:04.42 | jelly | dpkg: you suck! |
| 14:04.42 | dpkg | I resemble that remark! |
| 14:05.32 | mjt | no one teached dpkg that factoid... oh well... |
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| 14:06.11 | jelly | mjt: it's just buggy, that factoid's existed for a year or more |
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| 14:06.42 | mjt | who is buggy - factoid or dpkg? :) |
| 14:06.51 | mjt | n/m |
| 14:07.17 | jelly | !slap mjt |
| 14:07.17 | dpkg | strikes a resounding *THWAP* across mjt's face |
| 14:07.38 | mjt | I take it as "both" |
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| 14:08.59 | jelly | dpkg, tell DanteLA about wheezy->jessie |
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| 14:11.02 | DanteLA | Good work Intel, 5 years after release of Sandy Bridge still no stable drivers on linux |
| 14:11.37 | jelly | DanteLA: thank you for reminding me why I switched to nvidia |
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| 14:12.03 | Iridos | jelly, could be easily be circumvented by calling the damn thing "wheezytojessie" |
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| 14:12.19 | jelly | w2j? |
| 14:12.39 | Iridos | or even wheezy2jessie |
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| 14:12.43 | Iridos | whatever |
| 14:13.10 | Iridos | I dunno why everyone prefers using a syntax that doesn't produce the factoid in half of the ways you can try accessing it *shrug* |
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| 14:14.30 | DanteLA | There are so many packages to do Wheezy -> Jessie upgrade. Any ideas on other ways to try 3.18 ? |
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| 14:15.10 | Iridos | you may want to do that upgrade sooner or later anyway |
| 14:15.56 | jelly | DanteLA: build it yourself |
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| 14:16.23 | Iridos | that sounds like fun |
| 14:17.13 | DanteLA | jelly: That would be easy on a Gentoo server I have.. well maybe I will find a 'guide' for Debian to do that |
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| 14:29.14 | SAKUJ0 | if i choose udisks to mount then the disks will only be mounted after login, is that correct? |
| 14:29.28 | SAKUJ0 | talking about external hard drives (usb sticks etc) |
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| 14:47.59 | alipoor90 | How I can change "foo="some stuff here"" to "foo="bar"" with sed? |
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| 14:48.34 | abrotman | alipoor90: there's a #sed |
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| 14:50.02 | carnau | Trying to set up a cron.houly job. "/usr/bin/wget https://www.example.com/subscriptions/process/start &> /dev/null". Everytime it launches, it creates a start file in my root directory. How I should redirect the stdout and stderror to /dev/null properly? |
| 14:50.54 | fraff | carnau: see man wget for -O (and -o) |
| 14:51.11 | carnau | fraff, thanks |
| 14:51.17 | alipoor90 | Thanks |
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| 14:51.50 | mjt | ..and don't run things as root |
| 14:51.59 | mjt | especially network services |
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| 14:54.34 | carnau | Yes, I have to change this too :p Thanks for pointing it out. |
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| 15:03.08 | jair | I know this is completely unrelated to debian, but can you advice about a room where I can chat with people regarding wireless technologies like LTE, GSM, WI-FI, RF, etc... |
| 15:03.18 | jair | basically CWNP |
| 15:03.33 | jair | Thank you in advance |
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| 15:06.26 | goose | jair: regarding networking stuff, ##networking perhaps |
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| 15:06.58 | jair | ;) thank you for the suggestion |
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| 15:07.54 | SPF | jair: for RF you might want to try #arduino |
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| 15:14.03 | mc_fail | hi guys, i have a almost default debian istallation, and when i executing apt-get update it always stucks for a couple seconds at [Waiting for headers] |
| 15:14.27 | mc_fail | and i have a pretty fast internet connection, but trough the proxy |
| 15:15.10 | petn-randall | mc_fail: Does it throw an error, or just slow? |
| 15:15.21 | mc_fail | petn-randall just slow |
| 15:15.36 | petn-randall | mc_fail: Is it fast without the proxy? |
| 15:16.37 | mc_fail | i couldn't check, i have an access to the internet only trough the proxy |
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| 15:17.31 | petn-randall | mc_fail: Hard to say then, but my guess is that the proxy is the limiting factor. |
| 15:17.33 | mc_fail | but if i performing for example wget, 1GB file downloads in about 1 minute |
| 15:17.34 | jair | thanks SPF |
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| 15:18.36 | petn-randall | mc_fail: Yeah, but you're comparing apples with oranges. |
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| 15:18.47 | mc_fail | hmm, proxy is actually under my control, by some reasons i've had to set up proxy on my laptop, and bring up an ssh-tunnel to the host |
| 15:19.12 | mc_fail | petn-randall you mean that problem could be in the connect initialization time? |
| 15:19.54 | petn-randall | mc_fail: I'd try it without the proxy for comparison, then when I know it's the proxy, I'd put the debug logs on and check what's up. |
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| 15:21.23 | mc_fail | yeah, unfortinately host is in an isolated network, ant the only way to go to the internet for this host, is proxy behind ssh tunnel.... |
| 15:21.37 | mc_fail | so, i think i could check some proxy parameters |
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| 15:22.29 | msl09 | What happened to libpng12 i386? |
| 15:24.08 | petn-randall | mc_fail: Doesn't sound like a low-latency setup, anyway. Does this delay bother you? |
| 15:24.47 | msl09 | http://paste.debian.net/144705/ |
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| 15:26.46 | msl09 | Actually it was oss4-dev |
| 15:26.59 | jelly | ,v oss4-dev |
| 15:27.00 | judd | Package: oss4-dev on i386 -- squeeze: 4.2-build2003-1; wheezy: 4.2-build2006-2+deb7u1; sid: 4.2-build2010-1.1; jessie: 4.2-build2010-1.1 |
| 15:27.15 | jelly | msl09: it's there? |
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| 15:27.57 | jelly | msl09: if you want to build 32bit userspace, set up a 32bit chroot. Not all -dev packages are multiarch compliant yet |
| 15:28.09 | ctmjr | mc_fail: keep in mind before messing with your proxy it might be the mirror that is causing the slow down |
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| 15:46.41 | dpkg | <deniz> if the output of glxinfo has the word "slow" repeating numerous times, what does this indicate? |
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| 16:17.51 | latenite | Hi folks, why can I not install this package? https://gist.github.com/anonymous/093238f644ad9463a8b3 |
| 16:18.07 | Eryn_1983_FL | hey peeps can somebody help me dbug SSI in my apache webserver? |
| 16:18.38 | srg | latenite: pastebin your sources.list |
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| 16:21.41 | latenite | https://gist.github.com/anonymous/9669c2c7fa414981db20 |
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| 16:24.55 | latenite | srg, is that ok? |
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| 16:27.25 | ctmjr | latenite: apt-get update then apt-get -f install |
| 16:28.56 | latenite | ctmjr, why force? |
| 16:29.07 | latenite | what is the actual problem here? |
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| 16:31.07 | ctmjr | it looks like your system is not up to date -f is not force it is fix missing |
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| 16:31.26 | ctmjr | *missing/broken |
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| 16:32.22 | latenite | ctmjr, ah ok. Thanks a lot. It indeed worked just fine. |
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| 16:37.10 | petn-randall | Eryn_1983_FL: Either ask ahead, or check out #apache. Depending on how specific your problem is, you might want to ask in the latter channel. |
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| 16:40.17 | m3741 | hey everyone. is anyone else getting hash sum mismatches from the debian-mozilla archives? wheezy, iceweasel-release, binary-i386 to be precise |
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| 16:46.18 | SAKUJ0 | hey, when i plug in a USB device, Kodi crashes with a segfault: >>> segfault at 74 ip 00007fc71ff3c8bf sp 00007fff1278cbd0 error 4 in libfreetype.so.6.8.1[7fc71ff24000+99000] <<< |
| 16:46.28 | SAKUJ0 | i did not manage to find any kodi-specific information on this issue |
| 16:46.49 | SAKUJ0 | but searching for it has shown how this occurred with a few other packages that depend on libfreetype6 |
| 16:47.08 | SAKUJ0 | and had been resolved once those other packages shipped their own library for libfreetype6 |
| 16:47.13 | SAKUJ0 | any ideas on what to do? |
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| 16:47.49 | nkuttler | ,v libfreetype6 |
| 16:47.51 | judd | Package: libfreetype6 on i386 -- squeeze: 2.4.2-2.1+squeeze4; squeeze-security: 2.4.2-2.1+squeeze4; squeeze-backports: 2.4.9-1.1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 2.4.9-1.1; sid: 2.5.2-2; jessie: 2.5.2-2 |
| 16:47.56 | nkuttler | SAKUJ0: are you using wheezy? |
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| 16:48.03 | SAKUJ0 | yes |
| 16:48.13 | nkuttler | ,checkbackport libfreetype6 |
| 16:48.21 | SAKUJ0 | already did :( |
| 16:48.26 | nkuttler | you did what? |
| 16:48.28 | judd | Backporting package libfreetype6 in sidâwheezy/i386: all build-dependencies satisfied using wheezy, virtual. |
| 16:48.38 | SAKUJ0 | check for backports |
| 16:48.40 | SAKUJ0 | wait did i f up? |
| 16:48.57 | nkuttler | SAKUJ0: you can build your own backport from the testing package |
| 16:48.59 | SAKUJ0 | ii went to http://backports.debian.org/ and searched for libfreetype |
| 16:49.06 | SAKUJ0 | oh |
| 16:49.08 | nkuttler | it's quite easy, /msg dpkg ssbp for instructions |
| 16:49.14 | nkuttler | and use jessie instead of sid |
| 16:49.26 | SAKUJ0 | thanks ill try that |
| 16:49.31 | nkuttler | actually, same version, doesn't matter |
| 16:49.54 | SAKUJ0 | so it won't update once sid releases a new one? |
| 16:49.59 | SAKUJ0 | *upgrade |
| 16:50.15 | SAKUJ0 | as i would have to initiate the backport from the testing package myself again? |
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| 16:50.18 | nkuttler | SAKUJ0: no, you build your own package from source, apt won't upgrade it, unless you upgrade to jessie later maybe |
| 16:50.30 | SAKUJ0 | i c i'll give that a go |
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| 16:54.14 | m3741 | hey everyone. is anyone else getting iceweasel hash sum mismatches from the mozilla.debian.net archive? wheezy, iceweasel-release, binary-i386 to be precise |
| 16:55.40 | SAKUJ0 | appreciate the help, dpkg is an awesome bot <3 |
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| 17:00.38 | mc_fail | hi everyone, after perl update i have a error "Perl API version v5.14.0 of Encode does not match v5.20.0 at /usr/share/perl/5.20/XSLoader.pm line 92." |
| 17:00.46 | mc_fail | is it some mistake in perl-base? |
| 17:01.39 | petn-randall | mc_fail: Did you install a newer Perl by hand? |
| 17:01.58 | mc_fail | petn-randall no, by apt-get upgrade |
| 17:02.01 | jelly | mc_fail: which debian release are you using? |
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| 17:02.11 | mc_fail | jelly jessie |
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| 17:03.26 | jelly | mc_fail: find /usr/lib -path '*/perl/*/Encode.pm' |
| 17:04.04 | mc_fail | /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/perl/5.20.1/Encode.pm |
| 17:04.13 | jelly | is that all? |
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| 17:04.48 | mc_fail | yes |
| 17:04.52 | jelly | mc_fail: does "locate /Encode.pm" find anything else? |
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| 17:06.26 | petn-randall | mc_fail: Is that a clean jessie, or something else mixed in? |
| 17:07.05 | mc_fail | hmm, it found some encode.pm in bugzilla's directory |
| 17:07.26 | mc_fail | it is actually generally in bugzilla |
| 17:07.37 | jelly | which command reports the error above? |
| 17:07.50 | mc_fail | jelly i see this in browser |
| 17:08.18 | jelly | browsing your bugzilla instance? |
| 17:08.27 | mc_fail | jelly yes |
| 17:08.38 | mc_fail | may be i just should update bugzilla either |
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| 17:08.45 | jelly | did you install it from debian's repos or how? |
| 17:09.00 | jelly | ,v bugzilla |
| 17:09.01 | judd | No package named 'bugzilla' was found in i386. |
| 17:09.05 | jelly | perhaps not. |
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| 17:10.01 | SAKUJ0 | i created a backport and kodi.bin[2851]: segfault at 6c ip 00007f9de36976ff sp 00007fff392a0210 error 4 in libfreetype.so.6.11.1[7f9de367e000+a0000] :( |
| 17:10.04 | mc_fail | jelly yep, i've installed it from the tar.gz from site |
| 17:10.09 | SAKUJ0 | at least i managed to build the backport |
| 17:10.39 | SAKUJ0 | is it safe to remove the backport now or did it replace the former libfreetype6? |
| 17:11.02 | SAKUJ0 | i mean aptitude shows both as installed so i suppose it is safe |
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| 17:15.29 | SAKUJ0 | i managed to downgrade using aptitude install libfreetype6=<version> |
| 17:15.32 | SAKUJ0 | thanks for all the help! |
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| 17:33.04 | kay______ | my apache config is a little whacky and I want to go back to what the "stock" config would be with the packages I have installed. my concern is that perhaps some packages use scripts to alter apache config |
| 17:33.59 | kay______ | i've already extracted the cconfig files from the base apache22-common package - i'm just unsure if i should just extract config from the other packages or uninstall all apache packages, remove the config directory, and reinstall paackages. |
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| 17:36.06 | jelly | !tell kay______ about confnew |
| 17:36.19 | jelly | !tell kay______ about purge |
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| 17:36.41 | kay______ | thanks! |
| 17:37.02 | jelly | that ought to cover the general ways of resetting config in packages, not specific to apache |
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| 17:38.48 | jelly | if you can afford it, it's easier to purge every related package owning paths in /etc/apache* and install anew, but that's not always doable |
| 17:39.36 | kay______ | yeah, I can afford it |
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| 17:46.01 | guardian | hello, looking at /etc/sudoers, what's :ALL in "root ALL=(ALL:ALL) ALL" ? |
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| 17:49.13 | jelly | guardian: sudo may be used to set any group destination user is member of. man 5 sudoers, look at example about "alan ALL = (root, bin : operator, system) ALL" |
| 17:50.41 | guardian | ok going to look more closely but man sudoers isn't easy to digest |
| 17:50.54 | guardian | reading the EBNF isn't linear, but maybe that's just me |
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| 17:51.41 | guardian | also, it seems lots of docs out there give groupless examples, like "root ALL=(ALL) ALL" |
| 17:51.52 | jelly | there's lots of info in there |
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| 17:54.08 | the-green-toad | hello |
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| 17:58.29 | SAKUJ0 | best practice to mount nfs, is that into /srv or /mnt? |
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| 18:04.01 | Sark | What's a good, lightweight, image viewing program? I always used to use xv, but, it's not in the repository, and I have to install it manually. |
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| 18:04.22 | Sark | What's a good one that I *can* install with apt? |
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| 18:05.46 | Brigo | Sark, may be imagemagic? |
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| 18:06.20 | jelly | Sark: gliv if it works for you (requires opengl) |
| 18:06.32 | jelly | still has xv installed |
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| 18:08.44 | Sark | Hrm, never used imagemagic - just installed it with apt, but, it's not there? imagemagick isn't in my path anywhere |
| 18:09.32 | swaallc | you can install it from source http://www.imagemagick.org/script/install-source.php |
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| 18:10.37 | Sark | swaallc - I already installed imagemagick, I used apt. |
| 18:10.51 | Sark | But it's not in my path anywhere |
| 18:11.08 | Sark | If I was going to install something from source, I'd just use xv, since that's what I'm more familiar with. |
| 18:11.21 | Sark | I was hoping there was a simple image viewer I could install the Debian Way. |
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| 18:13.03 | Brigo | Sark, display-im6 (see the documentantion) they are several bins |
| 18:13.26 | Sark | ah hah, found it |
| 18:13.39 | Sark | Yeah, that's not what I was expecting, but, there we go, I can display images now. |
| 18:13.53 | Sark | I just was expecting the binary to be called imagemagick or something similar. |
| 18:14.29 | Brigo | Sark, imagemagic is a group of bin for image manipulation |
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| 18:16.02 | Brigo | Sark, there is a new package called GraphicsMagick with only one executable called gm. |
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| 18:19.44 | DammitJim | not sure who was asking the other day about setting up smtp relay on debian... |
| 18:19.53 | DammitJim | http://www.youtube.com/attribution_link?a=6gltOuJeOps&u=/watch?v%3DyQ6RSruIm2E%26feature%3Dshare |
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| 18:21.47 | chamuco666 | DammitJim thanks for posting that info |
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| 18:22.17 | DammitJim | I thought it was straight forward, but I like using the exim-config better ;) |
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| 18:24.25 | yapp | I would like to use the impress presenter Screen, but in the settings for the presentation the multi dispaly dropdown menu is grayed out. I have my Laptop connected to a VGA-Display. So there are two screens, which show different content. |
| 18:24.33 | yapp | I use Debian Testing and i3wm |
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| 18:26.31 | droid909 | guys, i need this exact version of debian, where and which version of debian i need to download : SMP Debian 3.2.54-2 x86_64 |
| 18:26.35 | chamuco666 | Hi yapp, so you have an extended desktop on the other screen and not cloned displays correct? |
| 18:26.51 | jhutchins | ,kernels |
| 18:26.52 | judd | Available kernel versions are: experimental: 3.18.0-trunk-686-pae (3.18.6-1~exp1); sid: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt4-3); jessie: 3.16.0-4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt2-1); wheezy-backports: 3.16.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.16.7-ckt2-1~bpo70+1); wheezy: 3.2.0-4-686-pae (3.2.65-1+deb7u1); squeeze-backports: 3.2.0-0.bpo.4-686-pae (3.2.63-2+deb7u2~bpo60+1); squeeze: 2.6.32-5-686 (2.6.32-48squeeze6) |
| 18:27.16 | jhutchins | !snapshot |
| 18:27.16 | dpkg | http://snapshot.debian.org/ is an archive of almost all Debian packages uploaded since 2005, including those removed from the official archives because they were very buggy, unusable, broken, vulnerable or in some way non-free. This service replaces snapshot.debian.net. http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100412 |
| 18:27.40 | jhutchins | droid909: I think you'd find it in the snapshot archive. |
| 18:27.50 | droid909 | jhutchins: thank you |
| 18:27.52 | yapp | chamuco666: yes |
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| 18:29.42 | Abu-Ahmad22 | I want to edit in the device does not show me only 960 * 600 |
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| 18:30.14 | Abu-Ahmad22 | Screen resolution 1024*768 |
| 18:30.50 | Abu-Ahmad22 | VGA : |
| 18:30.51 | Abu-Ahmad22 | VGA compatible controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 661/741/760 PCI/AGP or 662/761Gx PCIE VGA Display Adapter |
| 18:31.07 | yapp | Abu-Ahmad22: do you have xrandr or arandr installed? |
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| 18:31.38 | SAKUJ0 | how can i allow users to unmount devices? |
| 18:31.43 | feurd | Hello. I did a big mistake. I wanted to move some files, and I made a mistake and typed 'mv /* .' So now, all bin, home, root, etc, lib, ... folders are in my working directory. I can't move them back because the mv command is not recognized anymore. How can I move them back? |
| 18:31.44 | SAKUJ0 | without adding to fstab |
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| 18:32.03 | chamuco666 | Yapp I am looking into this |
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| 18:32.30 | jelly | feurd: echo $PWD says what exactly? |
| 18:32.37 | yapp | chamuco666: thank you, tell me if I can assist you. |
| 18:32.53 | feurd | jelly: /var/www/cloud.cyphix.org/ownCloud |
| 18:32.53 | Abu-Ahmad22 | yapp, How do I booze |
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| 18:33.03 | yapp | Abu-Ahmad22: pm? |
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| 18:34.38 | Abu-Ahmad22 | Sorry I didn't mean it |
| 18:34.45 | Abu-Ahmad22 | How do I do this |
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| 18:35.17 | yapp | Abu-Ahmad22: try xrandr --output VGA-1 -mode 1024x768, or text me |
| 18:35.18 | chamuco666 | Yapp let's start with the basic trouble shooting. Was the extended display plugged in prior to booting up your system? |
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| 18:35.24 | jelly | feurd: aight, what about echo ./lib/*/libc.so.6 ./lib*/ld-linux* |
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| 18:35.35 | yapp | chamuco666: nope, after booting |
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| 18:36.12 | feurd | jelly: ./lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 ./lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 |
| 18:36.53 | jelly | so it's a 64bit system |
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| 18:36.59 | feurd | jelly: yes |
| 18:37.09 | yapp | chamuco666: started my X, connected the VGA-Screen and exec: xrandr --output LVDS-1 --auto --output VGA-1 --auto --above LVDS-1 |
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| 18:38.07 | Abu-Ahmad22 | yapp, xrandr = xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default |
| 18:38.07 | Abu-Ahmad22 | Screen 0: minimum 320 x 240, current 960 x 600, maximum 960 x 600 |
| 18:38.07 | Abu-Ahmad22 | default connected 960x600+0+0 0mm x 0mm |
| 18:38.07 | Abu-Ahmad22 | 960x600 60.0* |
| 18:38.07 | Abu-Ahmad22 | 960x540 60.0 |
| 18:38.08 | Abu-Ahmad22 | 800x600 60.0 56.0 |
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| 18:40.37 | jelly | feurd: try something like this: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=./usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu:./lib/x86_64-linux-gnu ./lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 ./bin/mv --help |
| 18:40.46 | jelly | does the mv command work? |
| 18:40.55 | jelly | brb |
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| 18:42.17 | droid909 | jhutchins: i'm having hard time figuring out where to enter anything from this string: SMP Debian 3.2.54-2 x86_64 on the snapshot website ... |
| 18:42.20 | yapp | Abu-Ahmad22: looks like you have the max values for your configuration |
| 18:42.22 | droid909 | !snapshot |
| 18:42.23 | dpkg | http://snapshot.debian.org/ is an archive of almost all Debian packages uploaded since 2005, including those removed from the official archives because they were very buggy, unusable, broken, vulnerable or in some way non-free. This service replaces snapshot.debian.net. http://www.debian.org/News/2010/20100412 |
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| 18:42.34 | Abu-Ahmad22 | yapp, http://s23.postimg.org/i7zqvsvaj/351.png |
| 18:43.01 | feurd | jelly: it doesn't work : -bash: ./lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2: No such file or directory |
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| 18:44.04 | Abu-Ahmad22 | yapp, What do I do now? |
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| 18:44.43 | yapp | Abu-Ahmad22: I can't tell you, sorry |
| 18:45.39 | yapp | Abu-Ahmad22: you could try arandr, maybe it helps :-/ |
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| 18:47.36 | chamuco666 | yapp I would recommend rebooting since the monitor was plugged in after. It could be a service isn't recognizing the display |
| 18:48.36 | yapp | chamuco666: I will consider this |
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| 18:53.00 | yapp | I changed my xrandr command to: xrandr --output LVDS-1 --auto --primary --output VGA-1 --auto --above LVDS-1 # I added --primary now it works |
| 18:53.08 | yapp | chamuco666: thank you! |
| 18:53.39 | chamuco666 | Yapp did that work for you? |
| 18:54.06 | yapp | chamuco666: I did not reboot, I added a --primary parameter to the xrandr command |
| 18:54.12 | chamuco666 | yapp glad you fixed it |
| 18:54.32 | yapp | chamuco666: thank you anyway, for beeing such suportive |
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| 18:59.37 | jelly | feurd: hmm, echo ./lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ld-*.so |
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| 19:00.07 | harsh_coder | Guys this is our university's annual CTF contest. $700 cash prizes to be won! |
| 19:00.09 | harsh_coder | http://www.pragyan.org/15/home/events/code_it/pragyan_ctf/ |
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| 19:00.14 | harsh_coder | https://ctf.pragyan.org/home |
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| 19:00.32 | feurd | jelly: ./lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ld-2.13.so |
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| 19:01.30 | jelly | feurd: let's try that then. LD_LIBRARY_PATH=./usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu:./lib/x86_64-linux-gnu ./lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ld-2.13.so ./bin/mv --help |
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| 19:02.14 | feurd | jelly: ./bin/mv: error while loading shared libraries: libselinux.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory |
| 19:02.15 | feurd | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:02.42 | jelly | that's better |
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| 19:04.36 | jelly | feurd: echo ./lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libselinux* shows what? |
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| 19:07.23 | smithd | Hm, I don't here news from devuan, had it the same fate as 'rocket'? |
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| 19:07.40 | jelly | smithd: ask in #devuan, probably |
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| 19:10.17 | jelly | feurd: one last thing before I suggest booting a livecd or some other rescue image: LD_LIBRARY_PATH=./lib/x86_64-linux-gnu ./lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 ./bin/bash ./usr/bin/ldd ./bin/mv |
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| 19:12.39 | marioxcc | Is Debian no longer oficially called "GNU/Linux"? |
| 19:12.46 | marioxcc | *labeled |
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| 19:13.20 | RyanTG | Maybe RMS annoyed someone who makes the names. |
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| 19:13.42 | rgr | marioxcc: where did you get this from? |
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| 19:14.57 | marioxcc | rgr: The installer used to say "Debian GNU/Linux" IIRC. |
| 19:15.03 | marioxcc | And I think it no longer does. |
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| 19:15.45 | dondelelcaro | marioxcc: the installer just says Debian, because Debian has a Debian GNU/Linux and a Debian GNU/kFreeBSD port |
| 19:16.00 | dondelelcaro | marioxcc: or it might just say Debian; the same installer is in theory used for both |
| 19:16.11 | dondelelcaro | (but really, this is a totally minor point) |
| 19:16.23 | marioxcc | What's the official name of the project? |
| 19:16.57 | dondelelcaro | marioxcc: Debian is the official name of the project |
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| 19:17.08 | marioxcc | Ok. |
| 19:17.16 | dondelelcaro | (it has always been the official name of the project) |
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| 19:18.00 | dondelelcaro | we call the distribution that the project makes Debian GNU/Linux, or Debian GNU/kFreeBSD |
| 19:18.09 | marioxcc | Ok. |
| 19:19.28 | abrotman | (and Hurd, if the installer gets that far .. /me hides) |
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| 19:20.42 | dondelelcaro | right |
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| 19:32.12 | trollophant | hi, after i cat a binary file, my terminal just goes insane, how to get it working properly again? |
| 19:32.18 | dondelelcaro | trollophant: reset |
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| 19:32.53 | abrotman | ctrl-l perhaps |
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| 19:33.56 | trollophant | dondelelcaro: how to reset a single terminal, say the one i can use with ctrl+F1 |
| 19:33.59 | brontosaurusrex | how to enable bitmap fonts in jessie? |
| 19:34.14 | dondelelcaro | trollophant: you just run the reset command |
| 19:34.41 | trollophant | oh, ... |
| 19:34.47 | trollophant | thank you very much! |
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| 19:35.52 | dondelelcaro | trollophant: no problem; in general, that should work on all terminals. ctrl-l usually will force a redraw, which may also be enough (reset tends to be more of a "nuclear" option) |
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| 19:38.32 | xavier_ | jews did 9/11 |
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| 19:39.22 | Vroomfondel | well, he got straight to the point at least |
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| 19:39.38 | Aethysius | Howdy. |
| 19:39.39 | Vroomfondel | nothing worse than a troll that blathers on. |
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| 19:39.44 | Vroomfondel | hello Aethysius |
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| 19:40.10 | trollophant | dondelelcaro: if i use the terminal-emulator the problem wont appear, but when using the termianl at ctrl+F1 it will, why? |
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| 19:40.21 | Aethysius | I'm running PPCDebian on an iBook G4, and cannot seem to find tools with which to set my system clock. |
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| 19:41.29 | abrotman | dpkg: tell Aethysius about set the time |
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| 19:42.21 | dondelelcaro | trollophant: depends on the terminal emulator; some take different control commands |
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| 19:43.00 | dondelelcaro | trollophant: output to consoles is (in general) capapble of getting the console to do useful things, like bold, change colors, mode, underline, etc. |
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| 19:45.30 | Aethysius | headdesks |
| 19:45.48 | Aethysius | It seems my username isn't in the sudoers file. |
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| 19:59.26 | RoyK | anyone here using handbrake? seems broken |
| 19:59.40 | bazhang | yes |
| 20:00.00 | RoyK | http://paste.ubuntu.com/10147252/ |
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| 20:00.04 | bazhang | what is the issue with it |
| 20:00.13 | xreal | Can Jessie's grub boot from ZFS ? |
| 20:00.28 | RoyK | bazhang: see above |
| 20:00.37 | bazhang | ,v handbrake |
| 20:00.38 | judd | Package: handbrake on i386 -- wheezy-multimedia: 0.9.8+git20121007-dmo7; wheezy-backports: 0.9.9+dfsg-2~2.gbpa4c3e9~bpo70+1; sid: 0.9.9+svn6422+dfsg1-2; jessie: 0.9.9+svn6422+dfsg1-2; experimental: 0.10.0+dfsg1-2; jessie-multimedia: 1:0.10.0-dmo3; sid-multimedia: 1:0.10.0-dmo3 |
| 20:01.18 | Malinux | RoyK: I am here already :) |
| 20:01.35 | RoyK | bazhang: this is x64 |
| 20:01.41 | bazhang | same |
| 20:02.01 | bazhang | version 1.0 something? |
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| 20:02.14 | RoyK | bazhang: well, it doesn't install |
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| 20:02.45 | bazhang | thats exceedingly odd |
| 20:03.02 | babilen | RoyK: Please paste the output of "apt-cache policy handbrake" and "head -v -n -0 /etc/apt/sources.list{,.d/*}" to http://paste.debian.net |
| 20:03.21 | RoyK | seems it's only in backports |
| 20:03.30 | RoyK | tried to remove backports, and it's not there anymore |
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| 20:05.07 | RoyK | babilen: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10147334/ |
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| 20:07.37 | babilen | That looks about alright .. It's just that its dependencies seem to be off. Take libavcodec54 for example. It depends on "(>= 6:9.1-1)" while: |
| 20:07.43 | babilen | judd: v libavcodec54 |
| 20:07.44 | judd | Package: libavcodec54 on i386 -- wheezy-multimedia: 8:1.0.10-dmo1 |
| 20:08.19 | babilen | ... that version isn't even in wheezy-backports. Are you sure that you didn't have debian multimedia installed at any given time? |
| 20:08.35 | RoyK | yes |
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| 20:09.22 | RoyK | babilen: any idea how to fix this? I see this on two servers (mine and Malinux'x) |
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| 20:09.35 | babilen | Anything in "aptitude search '~b'" or "aptitude search '~o'" ? |
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| 20:10.28 | RoyK | babilen: http://paste.ubuntu.com/10147389/ |
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| 20:11.23 | babilen | ta |
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| 20:11.34 | babilen | "apt-cache show handbrake" gives you? |
| 20:11.53 | babilen | (and feel free to add all that to the same pastebin so that all information is in one place) |
| 20:12.02 | RoyK | http://paste.ubuntu.com/10147401/ |
| 20:12.31 | RoyK | that was just the last post... |
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| 20:12.55 | babilen | Yeah, that looks broken |
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| 20:13.21 | RoyK | babilen: hm... how can it be fixed? |
| 20:13.50 | babilen | It depends on packages that are neither in wheezy-backports nor wheezy itself, but only in debian multimedia. I'd file a bug: https://wiki.debian.org/Backports#Reporting_bugs |
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| 20:14.16 | babilen | You might be able to install it from DMM, but I am *really* not happy with advocating that as DMM causes all sorts of other problems |
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| 20:14.49 | RoyK | Malinux: wanna file that bug? |
| 20:14.53 | babilen | Sorry for that, but that package should have never been uploaded to wheezy-backports with those dependencies |
| 20:15.04 | RoyK | is tired of filing bugs as of now |
| 20:15.05 | Malinux | RoyK: yes |
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| 20:15.17 | Malinux | how do I file bugs in debian? |
| 20:15.23 | babilen | See above |
| 20:15.35 | babilen | (you'd report it to the backports mailing list) |
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| 20:15.49 | RoyK | Malinux: cc to me, please |
| 20:16.07 | Malinux | RoyK: sure, I have to send an e-mail, right? https://lists.debian.org/debian-backports/ <<-- here? |
| 20:16.18 | babilen | indeed |
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| 20:16.48 | RoyK | Malinux: better subscribe first if you want it all |
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| 20:17.41 | Malinux | RoyK: I will. I am working on it :) |
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| 20:19.44 | Malinux | sent an Subscription request now |
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| 20:22.47 | Malinux | what should I have as subject? |
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| 20:25.45 | babilen | Malinux: Obviously "Handbrake is so broken we don't even know where to begin fixing it" ;) |
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| 20:26.09 | sakujo | trying to get udisks-glue to work :( man pages state i should use automount = true and automount-options = xyz |
| 20:26.16 | babilen | Malinux: But then, make it "handbrake in wheezy-backports has dependencies on packages in dmm" |
| 20:26.24 | sakujo | the standard wheezy config has instead a post_insertion_command = "udisks --mount %device_file --mount-options sync" |
| 20:26.30 | sakujo | both won't work |
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| 20:26.48 | sakujo | i can udisks --mount but only from the active ck session, which happens to be fluxbox and its xterm |
| 20:29.04 | Malinux | babilen: ah |
| 20:29.15 | Malinux | I sent it. |
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| 20:30.02 | jedahan | whats the latest version of debian where apt-get install gcc, will give me gcc version 2.95? |
| 20:30.48 | jedahan | 2.95.3 was released in march 2014, at the time potato (2.2) was out, I am wondering if theres a website or utility to make it easier to ask that precise question (could I go up to sarge and easily install 2.95?) |
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| 20:31.43 | abrotman | That's not when potato was out |
| 20:31.47 | abrotman | not in 2014 |
| 20:32.20 | abrotman | jedahan: see archive.debian.org, you should be able to find this |
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| 20:33.16 | jedahan | ahh cool, thanks (i meant match 14, 2001, my bad) |
| 20:33.23 | jedahan | http://archive.debian.net/etch/devel/gcc-2.95 looks like etch has it but not lenny |
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| 20:36.41 | jedahan | hmmm running in circles trying to find the installation cd for etch though :( |
| 20:36.56 | jedahan | ahh https://www.debian.org/releases/etch/debian-installer/ |
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| 20:46.36 | sakujo | wow wheezy's man page for udisks-glue.conf is wrong oO |
| 20:46.59 | sakujo | it gives an example for automount_options = { sync, noatime } which simply won't work |
| 20:47.17 | sakujo | you will have to do automount_options = { "sync", "noatime" } instead |
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| 20:50.03 | sakujo | fuck it, that just does not give an error anymore but is not functional |
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| 20:50.18 | sakujo | i suppose there is a reason the default wheezy /etc/udisks-glue.conf differs from what the manpage recommends |
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| 20:57.00 | sakujo | wtf it automount_options = sync has an effect over having no automount_options but i am unable to do async ^^ |
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| 21:05.22 | wodim | i've noticed that when a init.d service crashes, it's not restarted -- can i enable that option? |
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| 21:13.16 | Pikudoz | You build #Linux binaries? Why don't you do it automatic, consistent and reproducible! Open Build Service 2.6 http://openbuildservice.org/2015/02/05/version-2.6/ |
| 21:13.34 | Pikudoz | ready to build Debian live images |
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| 21:27.52 | jedahan | so I want to install http://archive.debian.net/sarge/prc-tools but i'm on etch. am I outta luck or is there an easy fix (perhaps by editing some source repo list)? |
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| 21:32.50 | xreal | Can Jessie's grub boot from ZFS ? |
| 21:33.18 | shay_shay | you install zol it can |
| 21:34.26 | shay_shay | xreal: heres a good guide on compiling zol on debian |
| 21:34.29 | shay_shay | https://wiki.debian.org/CreatePackageFromPPA |
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| 21:35.25 | xreal | shay_shay: PPA and Debian? wtf :D |
| 21:36.00 | guardian | hello, I'm building a Jessie Vagrant base box. Vagrant advises to use "UseDNS no" in sshd_config. I also found this page https://www.linux-tips.org/article/92/disabling-reverse-dns-lookups-in-ssh that talks about -u0 option of sshd. Do you think it's worth launching sshd with -u0? |
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| 21:42.05 | shay_shay | xreal thats the path of least resistance |
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| 21:44.55 | xreal | shay_shay: I thought, resistance is futile? |
| 21:46.25 | xreal | shay_shay: from my POV it's always hard to figure out, which release of Ubuntu is equal to the release of Debian. |
| 21:46.38 | xreal | shay_shay: Wheezy was Precise? |
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| 21:54.58 | xreal | Why isn't it possible to launch Debian installer from an existing installation ? |
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| 21:56.19 | abrotman | xreal: it is |
| 21:56.30 | xreal | abrotman: whooot? how :D |
| 21:56.39 | abrotman | dpkg: tell xreal about debootstrap |
| 21:56.43 | polyphagia | tasksel, debootstrap |
| 21:56.45 | xreal | abrotman: nahh :D |
| 21:56.49 | abrotman | ... |
| 21:56.50 | polyphagia | https://wiki.debian.org/Debootstrap |
| 21:56.52 | polyphagia | :P |
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| 21:57.05 | xreal | abrotman: That's the way I'm doing it. I want the to launch the real installer... |
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| 21:59.50 | abrotman | xreal: that is the real installer |
| 22:00.06 | xreal | abrotman: I mean the text based expert installer. |
| 22:00.18 | abrotman | Okay |
| 22:00.27 | abrotman | you've been given youroptions .. goodl uck |
| 22:00.33 | xreal | ?! lol |
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| 22:03.18 | babilen | xreal: https://www.debian.org/releases/wheezy/amd64/ch04s04.html.en |
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| 22:48.36 | artag | I get no sound on debian wheezy. It appears pulseaudio can see no cards. I think this began when I installed drivers for a radeon graphics card (which has hdmi sound, though I don't use it) |
| 22:48.46 | artag | I've worked through a number of help pages and no test shows up any cards, but the suggested fixes haven't worked |
| 22:48.59 | artag | any ideas ? what would pulseaudio examine to generate those hardware sinks ? |
| 22:49.33 | mrMute | help /window |
| 22:51.10 | Tuxi | artag: possibly install debian jessie is a easy solution to you |
| 22:52.05 | artag | oh, is it out ? I hadn't realised |
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| 22:52.57 | artag | seems to be still in testing |
| 22:53.00 | Tuxi | artag: no but it's work good on my laptop :) |
| 22:53.27 | artag | might be OK. Or I might have new problems :) |
| 22:53.53 | artag | I would prefer to understand this first, though I might conclude that's the best solution |
| 22:54.01 | Tuxi | artag: on my laptops it's work very good ;) |
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| 22:54.29 | Tuxi | artag: ok :) |
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| 22:54.43 | artag | well, I'm still trying to get ubuntu 14.04 working properly so I don't want to experiment yet ! |
| 22:55.00 | artag | makes me wary of new releases |
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| 22:55.47 | Tuxi | artag: a good attitude |
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| 22:57.23 | viccuad | Hi guys. What is the politics of Debian and kernel images? Does a kernel stand until it's EOL, or they backport fixes and not update the kernel until Debian+1? thanks in advance |
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| 23:00.48 | crash__ | every release of debian has the same kernel all the release so jessie will have 3.16 but newer kernel will be in backports. |
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| 23:04.24 | viccuad | crash__: thanks |
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| 23:14.01 | hassoon | did astromenace get removed from teh repositories or what? :o |
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| 23:14.09 | hassoon | dpkg: astromenace |
| 23:14.09 | dpkg | hassoon: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about |
| 23:14.15 | hassoon | !astromenace |
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| 23:16.47 | crash__ | viccuad, np :) |
| 23:17.28 | viccuad | hassoon: it is in non-free, https://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=astro&searchon=names&suite=all§ion=all&sourceid=mozilla-search |
| 23:17.58 | hassoon | viccuad: but i have the nonfree component added in the sources.list :o |
| 23:18.20 | hassoon | ah wheezy-backports.. |
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| 23:23.49 | Mr-Pink | Hello? |
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| 23:24.09 | Mr-Pink | Can someone help me out |
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| 23:24.30 | Mr-Pink | I need help installing bitcoin qt to debian squeeze |
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| 23:26.29 | Aljosha | Guys is good Faiolver solution this http://pastebin.com/7v1HPmCu |
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| 23:28.14 | abrotman | Aljosha: Not enough info, and there are plenty of pre-made solutions for this |
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| 23:28.55 | Mr_Pink | cddasfadas |
| 23:28.59 | Mr_Pink | HELLO |
| 23:29.30 | abrotman | Yes |
| 23:29.38 | abrotman | Mr_Pink: why are you using Squeeze? |
| 23:29.45 | Aljosha | Can you tell me from your opinion what is best solution ? |
| 23:30.20 | abrotman | Aljosha: what's your budget? |
| 23:30.25 | abrotman | Aljosha: and what's the OS? |
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| 23:30.57 | Mr_Pink | It is what I have installed |
| 23:31.18 | abrotman | Mr_Pink: then you'll have to show us why it is'nt intsalling |
| 23:31.28 | abrotman | isn't installing |
| 23:31.29 | Aljosha | Os is CentOs and budget is not defined, but please tell me best solution from your opinion |
| 23:31.31 | Mr_Pink | I cannot find the repository |
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| 23:31.46 | abrotman | Aljosha: a) ask #centos or ##linux, b) you need to define the budget .. Good luck |
| 23:31.56 | abrotman | Mr_Pink: Oh, thought you were trying to compile it |
| 23:32.02 | Mr_Pink | I type sudo apt-get install bitcoin-qt but it does not exist |
| 23:32.13 | Mr_Pink | bitcoind does but i need the GUI |
| 23:32.29 | abrotman | Mr_Pink: I don't see bitcoin-qt anything in any of Debian |
| 23:32.37 | abrotman | oh, I lied |
| 23:32.39 | Mr_Pink | i am using the backports already |
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| 23:32.51 | abrotman | Mr_Pink: It's only in 'sid', I doubt you'll get that to backport to Squeeze cleanly |
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| 23:33.03 | Mr_Pink | what can i do? |
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| 23:33.16 | Mr_Pink | abrotman:Thank you btw |
| 23:33.32 | Mr_Pink | @abrotman Thank you btw |
| 23:33.38 | abrotman | I'm not sure you could backport it, even if you were on Wheezy |
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| 23:33.49 | abrotman | judd: checkbackport bitcoin-qt |
| 23:33.50 | judd | Backporting package bitcoin-qt in sidâwheezy/i386: all build-dependencies satisfied using wheezy. |
| 23:33.51 | Aljosha | ehh |
| 23:33.54 | Mr_Pink | can you walk me through how to compile it? |
| 23:34.02 | abrotman | Mr_Pink: are you stuck on Squeeze for some reason? |
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| 23:34.37 | Mr_Pink | No no reason |
| 23:34.59 | abrotman | I'd honestly suggest you upgrdae the box to at least wheezy, then you can backport it yourself |
| 23:35.06 | Mr_Pink | do i just update it with the package manager or do I have to download Wheezy |
| 23:35.13 | abrotman | Mr_Pink: see the release notes for wheezy |
| 23:35.19 | Mr_Pink | okay |
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| 23:42.34 | diegows | hi, are there official cloud images ? |
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| 23:43.38 | Mr_Pink | okay so i updated, upgraded, and dist-upgraded. Then i changed my sources to wheezy and repeated is this correct so far? |
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| 23:47.37 | abrotman | Mr_Pink: seems okay |
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| 23:55.34 | l1ght_ | Jessie is love |
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