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| 00:04.56 | Kazzy | Komanda: you're possibly looking for requestb.in (no www) |
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| 00:05.36 | Komanda | themill: works fine thanks |
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| 00:09.27 | nickSwe | I have a Samsung laptop with a HDMI monitor connected to it. Using only the external monitor when working which is working just fine. The problem I have is that during boot nothing is visible on the external monitor but only on my laptop monitor. The external monitor only starts working first after that I have logged in through the login screen on the laptop screen. This worked really good in ElementaryOS so I am sure its just a |
| 00:09.27 | nickSwe | setting somewhere. |
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| 00:13.30 | Brigo | !Elementary |
| 00:13.30 | dpkg | elementary OS is a Linux distribution based on <Ubuntu>. It is not supported in #debian; ask me about <based on debian>. http://elementaryos.org/ #elementary on irc.freenode.net. |
| 00:14.28 | nickSwe | Brigo: This is about Ubuntu. |
| 00:14.33 | nickSwe | Not Elementary |
| 00:15.10 | Brigo | !ubuntu |
| 00:15.11 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
| 00:15.32 | nickSwe | Oh doh! Im in the wrong chan! Sorry *ashamed* :) |
| 00:16.33 | teraflops | uhm |
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| 00:23.47 | duckey | so...i installed debian and no gui. When i boot up and go into debian os it just brings me into a login area that i login via terminal. HELP PLEASE |
| 00:24.13 | themill | What do you need help with? |
| 00:24.27 | duckey | Getting a gui |
| 00:24.35 | Sark | apt-get install xorg |
| 00:24.44 | themill | duckey: which one? |
| 00:24.45 | Brigo | duckey, why did you install debian with no gui? |
| 00:24.47 | duckey | startx wont work |
| 00:25.00 | duckey | I installed debian with a gui |
| 00:25.17 | Sark | does startx just say command not found, or does it error out? |
| 00:25.20 | Sark | Big difference |
| 00:25.26 | themill | duckey: please start again explaining what you have done, what you're stuck on and what's not working. Real output from real commands helps/ |
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| 00:26.55 | duckey | When i do startx command i get xinit: unable to connect to x server: connection refused |
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| 00:27.26 | duckey | I installed graphilly but no gui |
| 00:27.58 | themill | you'll need to dpkg-reconfigure x11-common |
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| 00:29.26 | duckey | I did and still, same error |
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| 00:29.54 | themill | Who did you tell debconf to allow to startx? |
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| 00:36.31 | duckey | What do i do? |
| 00:37.16 | duckey | I cant do anything but type in commands. And i have tried and reinstalled it |
| 00:37.29 | abrotman | duckey: which GUI do you want to use? |
| 00:37.34 | duckey | This is not just in vbox or something |
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| 00:38.45 | rainfyre | it's easy enough to install a gui from the terminal if you know what you want to use. |
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| 00:40.08 | zacwalls | Sorry my irc client closed |
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| 00:40.32 | zacwalls | So any ideas |
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| 00:40.58 | Sark | The thing is though, as long as xorg is installed, you should have twm and be able to startx |
| 00:41.17 | Sark | Right now, he's not able to start the x server, which is a problem. |
| 00:41.32 | Sark | It must not be detecting his graphics hardware properly, or something. |
| 00:41.44 | rainfyre | i was wondering if it's possibly a graphics card issue |
| 00:41.45 | nkuttler | zacwalls: what's the question? |
| 00:41.47 | Sark | there should be a log in /var/log/xorg.log or similar that will tell you what's happening. |
| 00:41.52 | rainfyre | bbl |
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| 00:42.16 | zacwalls | So... |
| 00:43.01 | Sark | /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 00:45.47 | zacwalls | stark: What is the command to look at files? nano? |
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| 00:46.38 | Sark | well, if you just want to look at a file, you can do 'less filename' |
| 00:46.44 | Sark | that will let you scroll up and down in it. |
| 00:50.11 | zacwalls | Stark: It says that it tried to use default and that there was no monitor specified |
| 00:50.24 | zacwalls | What the fuck does that mean? |
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| 00:51.32 | Sark | What file are you looking at? |
| 00:51.33 | zacwalls | Oh and the dir /var/lib/defoma/x-ttidfont-conf.g/dirs/TrueType does not exist |
| 00:51.44 | Sark | and what problem are you trying to solve? |
| 00:52.00 | zacwalls | Debian wont let me boot into a gui |
| 00:52.32 | Sark | oh, so you've got the same problem that Duckey does? |
| 00:52.39 | zacwalls | I am duckey |
| 00:52.44 | Sark | oh, I missed the nick change. |
| 00:52.46 | Sark | doh |
| 00:53.01 | zacwalls | lol |
| 00:53.23 | Sark | OK, well, if it says it can't detect your monitor, it could be that you've got something screwed up with your graphics hardware, or the monitor connection and it's not reading the EDID properly, or something. |
| 00:53.28 | Sark | What kind of graphics card do you have? |
| 00:53.57 | zacwalls | idk. I bought this hp from bestbuy a few days ago |
| 00:54.00 | Sark | and how is your monitor connected? |
| 00:54.10 | zacwalls | and im not having that win 8 bs |
| 00:54.23 | zacwalls | Stark, laptop |
| 00:54.29 | Sark | Ah. OK. |
| 00:54.33 | zacwalls | lol |
| 00:55.01 | Sark | I've had issues in the past when using an older monitor that didn't support EDID |
| 00:55.09 | zacwalls | huh |
| 00:55.25 | zacwalls | So what can i do? |
| 00:55.38 | Sark | the one I'm using right now, actually, I had to set some thing manually because X wouldn't detect the resolutions it supports. |
| 00:56.07 | zacwalls | Really |
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| 00:57.06 | Sark | I'm not sure, off the top of my head. I'm a little out of date on how the current Xorg deals with configuration files, I know I've had issues in the past where it completely ignores the xorg,conf file. |
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| 00:57.39 | zacwalls | SO im fucked huh |
| 00:57.53 | Sark | In any event, your machine shouldn't have issues like this - it's new. What kind of graphics hardware do you have in that thing? do an 'lspci |grep VGA' |
| 00:59.07 | zacwalls | idk |
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| 01:00.07 | volcko__ | Guys, my files are user:www-data permissions. The user is added to www-data group too and the www-data user is added to www-data too. But www-data user still doesn't have permissions to those files even if the group of those files is www-data |
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| 01:00.54 | Sark | what are the permissions on one of the files? |
| 01:01.01 | Brigo | volcko__, what about the directory owner and permissions? |
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| 01:01.11 | volcko__ | directory owner? |
| 01:01.34 | Sark | Yeah, the directory the files are in. Is *it* owned by the group, and have suitable permissions? |
| 01:01.41 | volcko__ | the owner is user (user:www-data) but if they are in the same group with www-data user, www-data user need to have permissions too to the files |
| 01:01.44 | Sark | You can't even ls a directory if you don't have read permissions to it. |
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| 01:02.09 | Sark | *user |
| 01:02.47 | volcko__ | i am doing it this way |
| 01:02.51 | volcko__ | chgrp -R www-data /home/darko |
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| 01:03.19 | volcko__ | so it should set the owner group for every file in /home/darko |
| 01:04.05 | Sark | yeah, but, what are the actual permissions of the files? |
| 01:04.08 | volcko__ | The primary group of user (darko) is www-data too |
| 01:04.15 | volcko__ | 755 |
| 01:04.35 | volcko__ | i also tried rwxrwxrw |
| 01:04.40 | srg | Is there a program like whatmask for debian? I can't find whatmask itself in jessie. |
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| 01:05.55 | SirLagz | what does whatmask do ? |
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| 01:06.36 | srg | you give it a IP in cidr notation, it gives you the IP range and other data |
| 01:06.47 | SirLagz | ah right |
| 01:07.22 | SirLagz | srg: something like sipcalc ? |
| 01:09.01 | srg | checks it out |
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| 01:09.25 | srg | oh yeah, that's it |
| 01:09.28 | srg | thanks SirLagz |
| 01:09.41 | SirLagz | srg: no problems |
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| 01:13.00 | duckx0r | From here: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch03s04.html.en it says that the minimum HD required is 1 GB. I set up a 1 GB virtual image and if I choose "use entire disk and set up LVM" it says there isn't enough space. Does anyone know what the minimum HD is for using LVM? |
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| 01:17.54 | nkuttler | duckx0r: "it" says? |
| 01:18.11 | duckx0r | nkuttler, it = the installer |
| 01:18.19 | nkuttler | duckx0r: when |
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| 01:18.46 | duckx0r | nkuttler, uhm. 30 seconds ago? |
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| 01:19.00 | nkuttler | duckx0r: no, during partitioning, or later? |
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| 01:19.15 | duckx0r | nkuttler, during partitioning |
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| 01:19.44 | nkuttler | duckx0r: interesting. no idea, i always give vms 4G or so |
| 01:19.46 | duckx0r | nkuttler, one of the options for disk partitioning is "Guided - use the entire disk and set up LVM" |
| 01:21.00 | nkuttler | duckx0r: you're using the stable installer, right? |
| 01:21.08 | duckx0r | nkuttler, Yes |
| 01:21.23 | duckx0r | debian-7.8.0-amd64-netinst.iso |
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| 01:21.52 | volcko__ | unix permissions hardest thing ever |
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| 01:32.21 | DANtheBEASTman | where does debian store it's package list from apt-get update? |
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| 01:35.52 | srg | I think I firewalled myself off accidentally. Did my last messages go through regarding my firewall not working with DNS? |
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| 01:36.58 | DANtheBEASTman | srg no |
| 01:37.49 | srg | ah |
| 01:38.07 | cheapie | ...I just wanted to pop in and say thanks, since Debian pretty much just blew me out of the water as far as ease-of-use when I decided to set up ATA over Ethernet for no good reason. |
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| 01:39.01 | cheapie | It's quite impressive that I just told the server to make the drive available, and the client *100% automatically* detected it and it "just works". |
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| 01:40.44 | srg | DANtheBEASTman: Apparently firewalling myself off made it work now. |
| 01:41.01 | DANtheBEASTman | lol |
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| 01:42.34 | DANtheBEASTman | oh, pretty sure I found package list in /var/cache/apt |
| 01:43.00 | DANtheBEASTman | now I'd like to know how to tell apt to use a mounted directory for debs rather than the internet |
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| 01:50.44 | SirLagz | DANtheBEASTman: just use dpkg -i to install the package ? |
| 01:51.14 | DANtheBEASTman | that's not the solution i'm looking for and wouldn't help me |
| 01:51.21 | SirLagz | DANtheBEASTman: what's the issue you're having |
| 01:51.23 | SirLagz | ? |
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| 01:52.29 | DANtheBEASTman | no internet at home, on public wifi right now downloading debs and saving to usb, going home and want apt to use usb for debs |
| 01:52.40 | SirLagz | ah right |
| 01:52.43 | DANtheBEASTman | dpkg -i would mark everything is manually installed |
| 01:52.43 | dpkg | package would mark everything is manually installed is already installed |
| 01:52.50 | DANtheBEASTman | ..lol |
| 01:52.51 | SirLagz | lol |
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| 01:53.45 | DANtheBEASTman | I can tether at home, but tether plan has limited data |
| 01:53.48 | nkuttler | !tell DANtheBEASTman about apt-offline |
| 01:54.35 | DANtheBEASTman | nkuttler: that website is in french? |
| 01:55.01 | DANtheBEASTman | and is a 404 |
| 01:55.09 | nkuttler | DANtheBEASTman: uh... check the package, no idea about the link |
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| 01:55.27 | DANtheBEASTman | surely I don't need another package for that |
| 01:55.46 | nkuttler | that? |
| 01:55.47 | SirLagz | DANtheBEASTman: it's probably a bit easier with apt-offline...you can certainly do it without it though |
| 01:56.11 | DANtheBEASTman | I don't mind the non-easy approach.. |
| 01:56.52 | SirLagz | DANtheBEASTman: Have you googled apt local repository ? There's a few guides out there on how to do it |
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| 01:57.46 | DANtheBEASTman | i tried several google searches and that... wasn't one I thought of |
| 01:57.53 | SirLagz | lol |
| 01:58.07 | SirLagz | DANtheBEASTman: do you only have one machine at home ? |
| 01:58.23 | SirLagz | DANtheBEASTman: or do you have multiple computers at home with Debian ? |
| 01:59.15 | DANtheBEASTman | i have a laptop with no HDD that I'm booting a live system everytime (because it's the fastest read/writes) and saving anything important to another USB |
| 01:59.25 | DANtheBEASTman | quite the non-ideal scenario |
| 01:59.29 | SirLagz | DANtheBEASTman: indeed. |
| 01:59.58 | DANtheBEASTman | initial HDD is corrupted, still saving money for a new one |
| 02:00.30 | SirLagz | fun times |
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| 02:01.00 | DANtheBEASTman | I suppose I could/should just symlink /var/cache/apt to the USB.. |
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| 02:02.30 | DANtheBEASTman | yeah that'll work. ok g2g thanks all. |
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| 02:36.49 | chrisoprase | hey, login proompt |
| 02:37.10 | chrisoprase | is gone after lock, cant restart because of unfinished work |
| 02:38.29 | phy1729 | try hitting enter or ctrl+alt+F2 |
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| 02:41.13 | srg | too lazy to write outgoing iptables rules, so default allow. |
| 02:41.30 | srg | supah securez0rs |
| 02:42.24 | SirLagz | srg: lol |
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| 02:46.45 | chrisoprase | phy1729: i'm using irssi at tty3, run ps and all graphical programs are running |
| 02:47.16 | phy1729 | oh you want a graphical prompt |
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| 02:47.55 | phy1729 | takes srg out back to "enlighten" him about proper firewall rules |
| 02:48.18 | srg | phy1729: One day I'll write the second half of my firewall script |
| 02:48.58 | srg | Hey, quick question: Is it "good" to put a default allow at the top of my firewall script, write my rules, then default deny at the bottom? This way, it wont break existing connections in the few miliseconds it takes to run the commands? |
| 02:49.09 | srg | Or is that pointless? |
| 02:49.27 | phy1729 | use iptables-apply and it doesn't matter |
| 02:49.51 | phy1729 | oops it's -restore |
| 02:50.13 | srg | ahh ok |
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| 02:50.52 | srg | It doesn't mention that in the manpage? |
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| 02:51.22 | phy1729 | yeah I just noticed that too but iptables-restore is atomic |
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| 02:52.17 | srg | ok, i'll take your word. Thanks! |
| 02:52.20 | SirLagz | when i used iptables, I just had all my rules in a file lol |
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| 02:52.41 | srg | SirLagz: Yeah, I did that briefly. Now I installed iptables-persistent to manage it on boot |
| 02:53.59 | SirLagz | srg: I had my script run on bootup |
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| 03:03.23 | chrisoprase | phy1729: yeah, also asked the question at #gnome, but that chan is like speaking with a black hole |
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| 03:25.13 | pablin | Hello everyone. |
| 03:25.35 | pablin | Is there any way to to force debian to use tcp for dns resolution? |
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| 03:36.11 | kellnola2 | dig can ... +tcp or something |
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| 03:37.16 | duckey | Hi so im about to install debian 7.8.0 onto my pe for about the 4th time now. Every time I boot up the os after install it has no gui. like at all. x wont work and its a total shit storm. is there anything i can do to prevent this from happening? |
| 03:38.21 | Ypo | duckey, can you get us the exact error? |
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| 03:39.08 | Sark | And what graphics hardware do you have? |
| 03:39.11 | duckey | Ypo, No. I have no idea how to. |
| 03:39.38 | duckey | Stark, Dont know. Is there a grub command that can tell me/ |
| 03:39.39 | Sark | You never gave me the output from the command I asked you to run. |
| 03:39.54 | duckey | Stark, and that would be? |
| 03:39.56 | Sark | lspci |grep VGA |
| 03:40.00 | duckey | oh |
| 03:40.02 | Sark | also, it's Sark, not Stark ;) |
| 03:40.04 | duckey | well |
| 03:40.14 | dvs | Sark: Ok, Tony. ; |
| 03:40.25 | duckey | Sark, well, damn |
| 03:40.49 | dvs | -P |
| 03:40.51 | Sark | You'll get something like - 0b:04.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Rage XL (rev 27) |
| 03:41.08 | duckey | Ok shuld i install non-graphically and get graphics later? |
| 03:41.25 | Sark | Well, I mean, you can already get to the console. |
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| 03:41.49 | Sark | If we know more about your hardware, maybe we can help point you int he right direction. |
| 03:42.03 | Sark | But, right now, we're flying completely blind, and have NO information about what does and does not work. |
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| 03:42.34 | Sark | Personally, I install the base and nothing else, and install what I want later. |
| 03:42.45 | pablin | Thanks kellnola2, I tried manually using dig +tcp and resolving goes well, so I need to try the entire system with tcp for DNS resolution |
| 03:42.45 | duckey | Sark, I am in the installer disk with no os. |
| 03:42.47 | Sark | But, that's because I use twm, and I don't want any extra cruft installed. |
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| 03:43.41 | duckey | What is UEFI? |
| 03:44.21 | phy1729 | !uefi |
| 03:44.21 | dpkg | Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) is a firmware interface specification, intended to replace the <BIOS> firmware interface. Debian 7 "Wheezy" supports installation in (U)EFI mode on 64-bit PC systems (amd64), <secure boot> is currently not supported. See also <errata>. http://www.uefi.org/ |
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| 03:44.47 | duckey | ok |
| 03:44.50 | duckey | good |
| 03:45.04 | duckey | Newer pc's piss me off |
| 03:45.34 | duckey | !automated install |
| 03:45.34 | dpkg | Fully Automatic Installation (FAI) is an automated tool to install or deploy Debian (and other distributions) on a bunch of different hosts or a cluster. It is more flexible than tools like <kickstart> (Red Hat), autoyast and alice (SuSE) or jumpstart (Oracle Solaris). FAI can also be used for configuration management of a running system. http://fai-project.org/ #fai on irc.oftc.net. |
| 03:46.56 | duckey | Be back |
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| 04:22.17 | sigdk | hi, I want to install the kernel headers, however apt-cache search return headers from differnt kernel versions... my version is 3.14 and I se only headers for 3.16... any help how to fix that (besides upgrading to the next kernel) ? |
| 04:22.50 | BenNZ | sigdk: aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r) |
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| 04:23.32 | BenNZ | sigdk: if that doesnt work then the headers no longer exist in the repo , in which case , yes you would need to upgrade the kernel |
| 04:23.34 | sigdk | Ben64, Unable to locate package linux-headers-3.14-2-amd64 ... Couldn't find any package by regex 'linux-headers-3.14-2-amd64' |
| 04:23.46 | sigdk | hmm ok |
| 04:23.57 | sigdk | could I add another repo maybe ? |
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| 04:25.24 | aixenv | hey so having a weird issue, old p4 server (yes i know) , was squeeze 2.6.32 kernel, did in place upgrade to wheezy and 3.2.0.4 kernel, i can get sysrescue cd to work by booting existing linux, however if i try and just directly boot i never get the grub menu and i get "error: incompatible license" |
| 04:25.25 | BenNZ | sigdk: i dont know if there is a repo with the headers you need , wouldnt think so |
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| 04:27.00 | sigdk | k, thanks |
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| 04:27.58 | aixenv | anyone ever experienced that? my googling hasnt really found anything that works, ive already try to reinstall grub |
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| 04:39.35 | aixenv | this is software raid and md0 is the partition it seems based on bootinitinfoscript |
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| 06:26.08 | totesnewb_ | how do I install the python imaging library on crunchbang? |
| 06:26.54 | totesnewb_ | nothing seems to be working and it is seriously just burning my head |
| 06:27.43 | totesnewb_ | I downloaded the .tar.bz file, extracted it, and then ran the setup.py in the terminal |
| 06:27.59 | totesnewb_ | I used this : python setup.py install |
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| 06:29.02 | themill | totesnewb_: (a) this is #debian and we don't know anything about crunchbang. (b) I'd be very surprised if it were not already packaged. |
| 06:29.04 | totesnewb_ | it fails, and I get an error message saying that it is unable to find python.py |
| 06:29.15 | totesnewb_ | um, ok |
| 06:29.41 | totesnewb_ | I thought crunchbang was based on debian |
| 06:29.45 | themill | You want #crunchbang |
| 06:29.54 | totesnewb_ | all right |
| 06:29.57 | totesnewb_ | thanks |
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| 06:45.47 | samuncle | Hi everyone |
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| 06:46.05 | samuncle | I have a question regarding debian free software guidelines |
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| 06:54.28 | rjsalts | wth, I have a directory on nfs with permissions drwxrws---+ 25 nobody Marketing 4096 Feb 19 17:32 . but I can't access it unless my primary group is Marketing |
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| 07:23.01 | rjsalts | http://paste.debian.net/hidden/c361023d/ what is going on? |
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| 07:25.41 | vali | hi guys |
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| 07:26.17 | vali | could someone tell which package/command is responsible to telling which packages need to be restarted after an upgrade ? |
| 07:26.38 | vali | it was coming from some package... |
| 07:27.20 | vali | and just use the package name and it lists all the possible affected processes. |
| 07:27.21 | themill | checkrestart from debian-goodies |
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| 07:28.05 | vali | themill: perfect |
| 07:28.15 | vali | thank you |
| 07:28.16 | rjsalts | vali: not quite |
| 07:28.29 | vali | rjsalts: why not ? :) |
| 07:28.36 | rjsalts | it has a few false positives :( |
| 07:28.37 | themill | note the warnings in the man page |
| 07:29.08 | vali | ok |
| 07:30.24 | rjsalts | I edited it to ignore them at work |
| 07:31.01 | themill | the newer version in sid is supposed to fix many of them |
| 07:33.22 | vali | that sounds good |
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| 07:35.30 | rjsalts | ah, 0.64 |
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| 07:36.35 | rjsalts | looks neat, Add other command interpreters: ruby (common) and tclsh (infrequent) to make it look for the real program |
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| 07:38.36 | kWO901 | my laptop has sata2 can i ugrade to sata3? |
| 07:38.53 | Disconsented | kWO901: Basicly no |
| 07:39.05 | kWO901 | Disconsented: ok thx |
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| 07:39.13 | Disconsented | no worries |
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| 07:56.47 | tErik | Hi, where is the signing-keys or hash/checsum of these download packages: https://www.debian.org/distrib/ Thanks in advance. |
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| 07:59.24 | tErik | I want to get signing-keys or checksum/hash over HTTPS (encrypted+secure+dnssec+dane verified) way, and want to get large iso file or torent file over HTTP (unencrypted+faster) way. and then i will check authenticity & integrity. |
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| 08:00.08 | tErik | signing-key/hash/checsum are always less than 32kb. |
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| 08:01.47 | tErik | Debian website is already DNSSEC signed, and used SSL-cert is also DANE/TLSA declared+authenticated. So its very very very relaiable & trustworthy. |
| 08:03.03 | tErik | Web-browsers like firefox/chrome, just need "DNSSEC-Validator" extension/addon to see icons/info related to DNSSEC + DANE verification/validation. |
| 08:04.39 | tErik | <PROTECTED> |
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| 08:10.49 | talin | hello. is it possible to install emacs24 on jessie? |
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| 08:12.38 | tErik | i see 1481 users. |
| 08:12.48 | tErik | well now 1482 users. |
| 08:13.59 | themill | talin: sure |
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| 08:18.48 | tErik | is this location contains correct gpg signing-keys for integirty check of various ISO installation download ? https://ftp-master.debian.org/keys.html |
| 08:18.54 | boycottg00gle | is there a filter to create sparse file so something like this would work: dd if=/dev/zero bs=4096 count=1000 2>/dev/null|pbzip2|pbzip2 -d|sparse /tmp/zero && du -h zero => 8,0K zero |
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| 08:20.48 | boycottg00gle | and are there better options than pbzip2 if the system at hand seems to be to slow for xz? |
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| 08:22.12 | tErik | got it, this is the location for ISO installation file signing-keys : https://www.debian.org/CD/verify |
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| 08:23.05 | tErik | Great its DNSSEC signed and HTTPS is also DANE verified :) :-) Superv job. These group gets it correctly. THANKS again. |
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| 08:23.53 | tErik | is it posble for a channel with 1500 users to remain this much silent ? !!! |
| 08:25.24 | SirLagz | tErik: people are either sleeping or working :P |
| 08:27.19 | tErik | in last half an hour, i posted 12 messages, user SirLagz 1 msg, user talin 1 msg, user themill 1 msg, user boycottg00gle 2 msgs, user debhelper set chn limit once. |
| 08:27.30 | themill | yeah... don't do that. |
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| 08:28.08 | tErik | is it beliveable, that a channle with 1500 users us this much silent ?!!!!!!!! !!!!!! |
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| 08:28.57 | themill | tErik: that's a good thing. |
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| 08:29.45 | tErik | silent channel means, no way learn stuff, or see multiple discussions, how is that good ? you def of "ggod" different han mine. |
| 08:30.09 | guardian | hello, I used localepurge to reduce the size of a jessie box with nothing installed beside dkms and vbox guest additions. localepurge removed files from /usr/share/locale/ but didn't touch /usr/share/i18n |
| 08:30.09 | tErik | s/ggod/good/ |
| 08:30.12 | guardian | is there a tool, or preferred way to prune /usr/share/i18n ? |
| 08:30.35 | SirLagz | guardian: how much storage do you have ? Do you really need to clear out that stuff ? |
| 08:30.48 | tErik | s/han/than/ |
| 08:31.12 | guardian | well the point is to get the minimal base box for use with vagrant. then provisioning will install stuffs depending on needs |
| 08:31.23 | guardian | but the smaller the vagrant box ends up being, the better |
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| 08:31.42 | SirLagz | guardian: ah right. |
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| 08:32.20 | SirLagz | guardian: I did it manually, but I only needed to do it once lol |
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| 08:48.01 | Junka | has debian any security features out of the box? |
| 08:48.34 | darxmurf | guys, I have a NFS share of /home/folder1/ in this folder I have a symlink pointing on an other partition, how can I do to follow this link via NFS ? |
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| 08:48.46 | darxmurf | NFS is not exporting other partition isn't it ? |
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| 08:51.23 | ChrisH | darxmurf: does not work with NFS. Samba works that way |
| 08:51.55 | ChrisH | darxmurf: With NFS the link gets resolved on client side and CIFS/Samba resolvs it on the server side. |
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| 08:54.40 | darxmurf | yep but is there any way to do that over NFS or not ? |
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| 08:56.39 | ChrisH | darxmurf: not from my understanding/expierience |
| 08:56.53 | darxmurf | hum :-/ okay |
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| 08:58.01 | darxmurf | gasp, I have 15 machines with the same configuration... it's the only different one ... I have to change my backup script only for it :-( |
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| 08:59.54 | wodim | there's no sphinxsearch for testing? |
| 09:00.20 | ChrisH | darxmurf: rsync? |
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| 09:07.53 | babilen | wodim: correct |
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| 09:25.43 | Ongy | Hopefully you can help: i have a debian wheezy lxc-users-container set up on a debian jessie system, I now want to chroot into the container rootfs as the user that owns the container. I installed fakechroot and to do so, it gives me an error about missing libc 2.14 in the wheezy systen |
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| 09:29.13 | darxmurf | ChrisH: the machines I have to backup are kind of exotic and the guy before me installed this nfs option to mount them one by one and backup it with rsync. As some of them are running pretty old RedHat I don't know if I can launch a rsync daemon on them :-/ but it could be the best solution |
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| 09:29.34 | darxmurf | I'll check that |
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| 09:30.27 | ChrisH | darxmurf: rsync on nfs mounted Filesystem sounds like a performance killer |
| 09:30.36 | darxmurf | I know :/ |
| 09:30.49 | darxmurf | I'm trying to cleanup a bit this installation |
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| 09:31.27 | darxmurf | it's always fun to start a new job and analyse what the guy before you did :) |
| 09:31.30 | jelly-home | ChrisH: it is. rsync thinks mount points are local and goes to copy whole files all the time |
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| 09:32.59 | Walex | darxmurf: if you are the guy who gets the job after me you can usually relax and spend a lot of time surfing the web because I worked hard to make things resilient and well maintained... |
| 09:33.53 | Walex | darxmurf: this has happened in my last 3-4 jobs and I hate that almost every time the next guy instead of keeping improving things just sat back and enjoyed. |
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| 09:35.58 | Walex | darxmurf: RSYNC over SSH with public key allowing just that? |
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| 09:37.38 | ChrisH | jelly-home: I did less thing about the amount of transfered data, but all the LSTAT RPC requetsts to find out what changed and what is still the same... |
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| 09:38.22 | ChrisH | darxmurf: rsync over ssh and check the man page for bandwidth limits in case your network gets flodded. |
| 09:39.23 | darxmurf | or rsync over rsync could be also ok |
| 09:39.33 | darxmurf | and faster :) |
| 09:40.29 | darxmurf | by the way, my colleague dosen't like rsync:// protocol because it's not encrypted on the way... what do you think about that |
| 09:41.05 | darxmurf | of course I understand that but as those files are not sensitives, is it really a big deal ?' |
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| 09:43.57 | Iridos | darxmurf, it's not? |
| 09:44.15 | darxmurf | and by the way on those machines I need the root access to backup all the datas... so, using a rsync over SSH will force me to give root access to the backup user and use a passphrase less key, it's dangerous too |
| 09:44.55 | Iridos | I thought --rsh=ssh is the default it uses |
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| 09:45.34 | Iridos | and that thinking comes from the fact that anything BUT ssh isn't enabled to some of the machines I use rsync with |
| 09:46.31 | Iridos | oh --daemon |
| 09:47.15 | ChrisH | darxmurf: the backupsystem must be protected as you have all data on one box, so the PW less login is no problem. Beeing a user on the box you can get the files/data. |
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| 09:48.03 | Iridos | don't think I ever used rsync:// type addresses for it |
| 09:48.05 | darxmurf | well it's right :) |
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| 09:48.37 | darxmurf | well I said rsync:// to talk about the rsync protocol |
| 09:49.17 | darxmurf | not over SSH |
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| 09:50.57 | TalkSoup | Hi how do I change my NetworkManager to use google as DNS, my local server is SLOWWW |
| 09:51.20 | TalkSoup | I've changed /etc/resolv.conf to 8.8.8.8 but when I ping google it goes to local ISP |
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| 09:51.34 | darxmurf | well I think I will stay with this rsync not over SSH |
| 09:51.53 | darxmurf | it's fast and I can only "share" the folder I need |
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| 09:53.09 | miskatonic | using google as DNS sounds quite hazardous to your privacy |
| 09:53.21 | darxmurf | noooo |
| 09:53.26 | darxmurf | they are not listening to you |
| 09:53.30 | darxmurf | trust them D |
| 09:53.31 | darxmurf | :D |
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| 09:54.27 | rjsalts | apt-get install unbound;echo nameserver 127.0.0.1 > /etc/resolv.conf |
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| 09:56.55 | photographer | hi, need small help. few hours ago i was installing debian on usb and in time when i had to choose where to put grub2 i told him to put on the first partition on first hard disc... after i press enter i realise what i did |
| 09:57.02 | TalkSoup | rjsalts was that meant for me? |
| 09:57.04 | miskatonic | does dhcp still overwrite /etc/resolv.config? |
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| 09:57.19 | TalkSoup | I don't know haven't relogged |
| 09:57.29 | photographer | how to remove grub2 from first partition of first hard disc and to put it on usb? |
| 09:57.39 | darxmurf | other solution too, to add command="rsync" in the authorized_keys file on the client |
| 09:58.03 | Walex | darxmurf: "rsync over SSH will force me to give root access to the backup user and use a passphrase less" you can use public keys with specific command restriction allowing only 'rsync' |
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| 09:58.37 | TalkSoup | @rjsalts was that for me? |
| 09:59.34 | darxmurf | yep I just found that |
| 09:59.46 | darxmurf | so, sounds like the best solution |
| 09:59.47 | darxmurf | :) |
| 10:00.49 | TalkSoup | @rjsalts how will this help? |
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| 10:01.28 | TalkSoup | @rjsalts do I need to run initialisation scripts or relog in for this? |
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| 10:12.33 | TalkSoup | @rjsalts this doesn't seem to have resolved the issue. ping to google.com goes to local server and is slower than ping 8.8.8.8 |
| 10:12.57 | TalkSoup | @rjsalts interesting that the local DNS doesn't resolve 8.8.8.8 to itself |
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| 10:13.29 | MikeSeth | photographer: you should be able to install grub onto the USB MSD regardless.. removing it from the hard disk partition isn't necessary |
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| 10:17.56 | TalkSoup | my local DNS is a full two cycles slower than google's on ping, yet google.com resolves to my local server |
| 10:18.18 | TalkSoup | and this is a slow machine |
| 10:19.40 | MikeSeth | so your ISP is intercepting your outbound DNS? |
| 10:19.49 | TalkSoup | I'm in australia |
| 10:19.54 | MikeSeth | I don't understand what your problem is |
| 10:19.56 | TalkSoup | bigger brother |
| 10:20.04 | TalkSoup | problem is its slowing me down man |
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| 10:20.14 | TalkSoup | and messing with my connections |
| 10:20.30 | MikeSeth | is that even legal |
| 10:20.38 | TalkSoup | as I said im in australia |
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| 10:20.43 | TalkSoup | legality is not an issue |
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| 10:20.53 | MikeSeth | um, er |
| 10:21.03 | MikeSeth | I want to understand |
| 10:21.04 | TalkSoup | i know |
| 10:21.07 | TalkSoup | so do I |
| 10:21.11 | TalkSoup | run by morons |
| 10:21.13 | MikeSeth | when you execute a query directly to a remote DNS server |
| 10:21.19 | MikeSeth | is it intercepted or not? |
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| 10:21.36 | TalkSoup | if i use the named address |
| 10:21.41 | TalkSoup | not the hex |
| 10:21.56 | photographer | MikeSeth; if i do that, i wount be able to start windows on that laptop |
| 10:22.19 | MikeSeth | photographer: do you have windows on hd0,0? |
| 10:22.28 | photographer | yes |
| 10:22.35 | TalkSoup | i only want to know a way around it, but I guess its down to the ISP |
| 10:22.41 | MikeSeth | photographer: if you do, then you need to reinstall the windows boot record |
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| 10:23.11 | photographer | ok. now, how to put usb to be bootable |
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| 10:23.25 | MikeSeth | photographer: google the instructions |
| 10:23.25 | photographer | with installation of debian that i have on it |
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| 10:23.36 | wfq | hi guys |
| 10:23.42 | photographer | for windows no problem, i know how to solve it |
| 10:23.52 | MikeSeth | TalkSoup: explain what you mean by when you ping google it goes to local isp |
| 10:24.02 | TalkSoup | i'll give you the output |
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| 10:24.19 | abailarri | Hello. I have a server with a php websocket script that I execute with "php myapp.php", but when I close the ssh session the connection downs. Then, what ways I have to make this persistan? |
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| 10:24.30 | wfq | I just installed xfce-switch which was shipped with plenty of gnome libraries. How could I revert the process please? I know if I remove xfce-switch via apt-get it won't remove the dependecies wil it? |
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| 10:24.31 | TalkSoup | 64 bytes from syd10s01-in-f14.1e100.net (216.58.220.110): icmp_req=1 ttl=57 time=218.4 ms |
| 10:24.37 | petn-randall | TalkSoup: Show us the actual ping output â http://paste.debian.net |
| 10:24.40 | TalkSoup | ping google.com |
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| 10:24.51 | TalkSoup | that was it, sorry |
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| 10:25.02 | photographer | MikeSeth thanks 4 your time ;) |
| 10:25.06 | TalkSoup | ping 8.8.8.8 goes to 8.8.8.8 |
| 10:25.28 | MikeSeth | what are you pinging exactly? |
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| 10:25.34 | TalkSoup | GOOGLE.COM |
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| 10:25.37 | petn-randall | TalkSoup: 216.58.220.110 belongs to google. What is your problem? |
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| 10:25.54 | MikeSeth | google.com is geotargeted |
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| 10:26.00 | petn-randall | TalkSoup: run "whois 216.58.220.110" |
| 10:26.03 | TalkSoup | its slower than 8.8.8.8 and my connections keep resetting |
| 10:26.11 | MikeSeth | TalkSoup: no no no you're confused |
| 10:26.21 | MikeSeth | this has nothing to do with DNS |
| 10:26.37 | MikeSeth | if you want to use 8.8.8.8 then do that |
| 10:26.45 | TalkSoup | I have |
| 10:26.47 | MikeSeth | but it would still resolve google.com to some local IP |
| 10:26.54 | TalkSoup | why? |
| 10:27.03 | petn-randall | MikeSeth: Show us the output please. |
| 10:27.09 | TalkSoup | of? |
| 10:27.10 | MikeSeth | s/local/nearby/ |
| 10:27.16 | petn-randall | MikeSeth: 'host google.com' |
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| 10:27.53 | MikeSeth | petn-randall: er |
| 10:28.19 | TalkSoup | mikeseth: thats a sed command? |
| 10:28.21 | MikeSeth | mikeseth@captera:~$ dig +short google.com|pastebinit |
| 10:28.21 | MikeSeth | http://paste.debian.net/152192/ |
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| 10:28.50 | MikeSeth | TalkSoup: because google does DNS load balancing |
| 10:28.53 | petn-randall | MikeSeth: Sorry, I meant TalkSoup |
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| 10:29.12 | MikeSeth | TalkSoup: DNS answers for google.com depend on the IP that performs the query |
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| 10:31.31 | pflanze | Hello. How can I check whether I configured/partitioned/etc. my SSD correctly so that it gives me max performance? |
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| 10:32.54 | TalkSoup | MikeSeth:216.58.220.110 --- no pastebin |
| 10:33.19 | TalkSoup | but why is it slower? |
| 10:33.26 | TalkSoup | and flakey |
| 10:33.44 | petn-randall | TalkSoup: Your connection is probably flakey, that's all. |
| 10:33.50 | TalkSoup | its a fixed IP |
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| 10:33.59 | petn-randall | TalkSoup: What does that have to do with it? |
| 10:34.30 | petn-randall | TalkSoup: It would be great if you could show us how you measure "flakey", i.e. actual output of commands. |
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| 10:35.26 | TalkSoup | well I'm not an expert but I'm guessing that it doesnt have to dynamically allocate a new IP and so wouldn't have any problems associated with that |
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| 10:36.07 | TalkSoup | flakey meaning it pops up and down |
| 10:36.11 | TalkSoup | telnet |
| 10:36.27 | TalkSoup | it drops and reconnects |
| 10:36.32 | TalkSoup | on SSH |
| 10:37.04 | petn-randall | TalkSoup: telnet or ssh? Which is it? |
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| 10:37.13 | MikeSeth | TalkSoup: maybe you have packet drop? MTU mismatch? |
| 10:37.22 | TalkSoup | well both, but initially ssh |
| 10:37.31 | MikeSeth | TalkSoup: run ping to somewhere remote for an hour, see what stats it shows |
| 10:37.38 | TalkSoup | MTU is normal |
| 10:37.40 | TalkSoup | 1500 |
| 10:37.50 | petn-randall | Either way, it looks like it's miles away from a Debian problem. I suggest #networking. |
| 10:38.03 | TalkSoup | ok thanks |
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| 10:40.16 | MikeSeth | TalkSoup: if ssh specifically is a problem you can enable keepalive |
| 10:40.34 | TalkSoup | no RX-ERR on netstat -i |
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| 10:40.45 | TalkSoup | or TX-ERR |
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| 10:40.53 | TalkSoup | thanks MikeSeth |
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| 10:41.17 | MikeSeth | those are interface stats, you won't see things like TCP timeouts there |
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| 10:41.36 | TalkSoup | where do I see those? |
| 10:41.54 | MikeSeth | I don't think those are collected as stats |
| 10:42.11 | MikeSeth | you would need e.g. wireshark to look at the traffic |
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| 10:42.46 | TalkSoup | it's 53MB! |
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| 10:42.53 | TalkSoup | with dependencies |
| 10:42.56 | MikeSeth | so? |
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| 10:43.19 | MikeSeth | you could of course run tcpdump or something like that |
| 10:43.21 | MikeSeth | more primitive |
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| 10:43.39 | MikeSeth | but again, I still don't understand exactly what the problem is |
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| 10:44.24 | MikeSeth | if your ssh sessions drop, are you sure this isn't because of inactivity? |
| 10:44.29 | TalkSoup | yes |
| 10:44.47 | MikeSeth | and no problem with any other protocols? |
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| 10:45.16 | tomivs | Hi, I can't run "apt-get update" |
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| 10:45.31 | tomivs | E: No se pudo encontrar el método /usr/lib/apt/methods/https. |
| 10:46.23 | TalkSoup | wireshark reports 'No interface can be used for capturing in this system' |
| 10:46.27 | MikeSeth | tomivs: http://askubuntu.com/questions/104160/method-driver-usr-lib-apt-methods-https-could-not-be-found-update-error |
| 10:46.34 | MikeSeth | TalkSoup: as root |
| 10:46.42 | TalkSoup | mikeseth: yes, https too |
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| 10:46.47 | TalkSoup | ah |
| 10:47.06 | MikeSeth | TalkSoup: what else? can you ftp large files? http downloads/uploads? |
| 10:47.20 | tomivs | E: Fallo al obtener http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/apt/apt-transport-https_1.0.9.4_amd64.deb 404 Not Found [IP: 128.61.240.89 80] |
| 10:47.54 | MikeSeth | tomivs: find the correct deb in packages.debian.org and download it manually, install with dpkg -i |
| 10:47.58 | TalkSoup | problems are intermittent, unpredictable |
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| 10:48.11 | TalkSoup | curl works ok |
| 10:48.22 | TalkSoup | icemonkey stumbles |
| 10:48.31 | MikeSeth | TalkSoup: what kind of link do you have? |
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| 10:48.49 | TalkSoup | MikeSeth: could you be more specific? |
| 10:49.01 | themill | tomivs: you need to run "apt-get update" first. |
| 10:49.17 | MikeSeth | themill: he can't |
| 10:49.21 | themill | tomivs: change your sources.list to use http URLs |
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| 10:49.44 | MikeSeth | TalkSoup: how are you connected to internet |
| 10:50.39 | TalkSoup | fixed IP to a subnet |
| 10:50.43 | TalkSoup | does that make sense? |
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| 10:51.23 | MikeSeth | TalkSoup: no I mean physical link |
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| 10:53.50 | TalkSoup | sorry networking not my forte |
| 10:53.58 | TalkSoup | please be more specific @MikeSeth |
| 10:54.19 | TalkSoup | i'm a MUDDER |
| 10:54.26 | TalkSoup | not techie |
| 10:54.32 | S4nD3r | Hi. Just a question, how to search a file using gnome 3 gui, after type super key. I don't know how to search for it in google. |
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| 10:55.28 | MikeSeth | TalkSoup: ethernet? wireless? isdn? carrier pigeons? |
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| 10:56.49 | TalkSoup | heh think carrier pigeon is better |
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| 10:59.56 | ribamar_ | hi all, i have just dist-upgraded from wheezy to jessie. i needed ia32-libs. but: sudo apt-get install ia32-libs | tail -0 |
| 10:59.56 | ribamar_ | E: Package 'ia32-libs' has no installation candidate |
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| 11:00.42 | TalkSoup | @MikeSeth all I know is it's a fixed addess. My connection to the subnet is wireless |
| 11:02.05 | MikeSeth | TalkSoup: find out your gateway IP, ping it for some time and then see if there's packet drop |
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| 11:02.26 | petn-randall | ribamar_: ia32 libs was removed in jessie, there is multiarch for that. |
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| 11:04.30 | pflanze | Why is my kernel (3.2.0) using CFQ on an SSD when people say deadline or noop are faster? |
| 11:04.34 | factor | Has anyone used debian vpnc to connect to cisco vpn, I can connect , but dont have any access to computers on the netowrk or then to me? |
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| 11:04.45 | pflanze | Has CFQ been improved? |
| 11:04.46 | petn-randall | pflanze: Because it's the default. |
| 11:05.05 | pflanze | petn-randall, but, why was the default not changed in the kernel for SSDs then? |
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| 11:05.41 | pflanze | Well, I'll test then, but I'm still out of a nice test suite. |
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| 11:06.03 | petn-randall | pflanze: It depends on your usage pattern if that actually helps on your workload. If deadline works better for you, you can use sysfs-utils/procfs to change the scheduler. |
| 11:06.07 | pflanze | Any recommendations? (better than hdparm -tT I hope) |
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| 11:06.39 | petn-randall | pflanze: Is it a desktop machine? |
| 11:06.43 | pflanze | Yes, that's why I want a good realworldlike test suite. |
| 11:06.49 | pflanze | It's my laptop. |
| 11:07.16 | pflanze | I'm mainly caring about fast swapping. |
| 11:07.17 | petn-randall | pflanze: Then you're probably spending more time discussing it than you'll ever get back. |
| 11:08.12 | TalkSoup | MikeSeth: thanks |
| 11:08.15 | pflanze | Ok. I'm really more worried about any of the things I could have done wrong. |
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| 11:08.22 | pflanze | I just suspect my SSD is working too slowly. |
| 11:08.24 | petn-randall | pflanze: hdparm -tT is a bad test, since it does sequential reads, and deadline/cfq will behave exactly the same. |
| 11:08.29 | pflanze | yes |
| 11:08.45 | pflanze | I want to know what I messed up when partitioning, or what other gotchas there are. |
| 11:09.00 | pflanze | I was hoping that there'd be a program nowadays that would check all of that for me. |
| 11:09.07 | petn-randall | pflanze: If you only have one application reading/writing on the disk, both schedulers behave identical. |
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| 11:09.42 | petn-randall | pflanze: It depends on what you do. A postgres database will have very different access patterns from e.g. libreoffice. |
| 11:10.14 | pflanze | As I said, swap (and big find/grep/git repo accesses) are what I care most about. |
| 11:10.50 | TalkSoup | MikeSeth: that -my gateway IP- would be the IP address after the local subnet? |
| 11:10.52 | pflanze | And it feels like the SSD didn't give quite the improvement over the HDD that I expected, so I suspect something's wrong, but I don't kwow what. |
| 11:10.58 | petn-randall | pflanze: Use the deadline scheduler for a day, then cfq. If you notice any difference, use the one that works better for you. |
| 11:11.05 | TalkSoup | using traceroute |
| 11:11.09 | pflanze | I don't think the schedulers are my concern really. |
| 11:11.19 | pflanze | It's just what I was led to by some article. |
| 11:11.27 | pflanze | I want to know what I *really* messed up. |
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| 11:12.04 | MikeSeth | TalkSoup: yes, ip r g default |
| 11:12.08 | petn-randall | pflanze: Are you even sure your SSD is the bottleneck? It could also be RAM or CPU. |
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| 11:12.43 | pflanze | petn-randall, I'd expect a core 2 duo to be faster, still; but I was thinking maybe the bus to the SSD might be an issue. |
| 11:13.53 | TalkSoup | MikeSeth: ip r g default returns: need at least destination address |
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| 11:16.14 | MikeSeth | ehh |
| 11:16.18 | MikeSeth | ip r |grep default |
| 11:17.04 | TalkSoup | heh thanks |
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| 11:17.23 | TalkSoup | that gives the local subnet |
| 11:18.01 | ujjain | what is recommended software to host my own repo? |
| 11:18.05 | ujjain | i want to push debian files to my repo |
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| 11:18.41 | turtleding | hello, can someone of you guys tell me, whats wrong in this line? (located in my .zshrc) => export $XDG_CONFIG_HOME = $HOME/.config |
| 11:19.19 | miskatonic | the first $ is wrong |
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| 11:19.45 | turtleding | miskatonic: so, export XDG_CONFIG_HOME = $HOME/.config is right? |
| 11:21.12 | miskatonic | yeah |
| 11:21.30 | miskatonic | no, the spaces are also wrong |
| 11:21.41 | miskatonic | those surrounding the equal sign |
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| 11:22.36 | miskatonic | the space after export has to be |
| 11:23.39 | turtleding | miskatonic: thx |
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| 11:25.05 | petn-randall | pflanze: Run 'atop', and see if there's something turning up red. |
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| 11:26.21 | miskatonic | which package does `atop' belong to? |
| 11:26.55 | petn-randall | miskatonic: You have three guesses. |
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| 11:30.24 | MikeSeth | TalkSoup: then traceroute somewhere and find the first external IP |
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| 11:31.19 | TalkSoup | MikeSeth: got it, running ping test |
| 11:32.04 | MikeSeth | TalkSoup: if there's no packet loss you probably have protocol level issues.. or your ISP screwing around with ports |
| 11:32.26 | MikeSeth | TalkSoup: as an experiment open up an ssh server on a non-standard port and connect there and see what happens |
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| 11:34.29 | turtleding | hello. is it expected, that $(pidof awesome) prints nothing? |
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| 11:38.13 | miskatonic | if no process named awesome is running, then it is normal |
| 11:38.30 | TalkSoup | MikeSeth couple of hiccups, normally pinging around 20ms gone to ~200 and ~130 a couple of times |
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| 11:40.08 | miskatonic | if there's such a process, there will most likely be an error message |
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| 11:44.11 | turtleding | miskatonic: hm, thx. awesome is my window manager; i found in ps aux the process x-window-manger => is this kind of an symlink to awesome? can i use the x-window-manger in a script? |
| 11:44.13 | Marezz | http://lkml.iu.edu//hypermail/linux/kernel/1408.1/02496.html |
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| 11:49.05 | pflanze | petn-randall, hdparm -tT tells me that I've got about 50MB/s buffered disk reads. Well, that *certainly* says something's seriously wrong. |
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| 11:58.36 | pflanze | (Also, atop shows nothing in red except only 740MB remaining swap. But hdparm isn't swapping from what I can see, so that's not the problem.) |
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| 12:06.24 | Che-Anarc | Is there a limit on the number of TCP sockets / connections that can be made a box by default? |
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| 12:11.13 | turtleding | just in case: is it a good way to chgrp & chown (user) /dev/sdc1 ? |
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| 12:11.32 | turtleding | while /dev/sdc1 is an external harddrive |
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| 12:14.07 | barmaglot | hello i try use http://joxi.ru/LmGVQnYuDaPgrl |
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| 12:14.24 | barmaglot | okay i see http://joxi.ru/J2beEB0I597vm6 |
| 12:15.01 | barmaglot | hmm okay now see /etc/login.defs |
| 12:15.10 | barmaglot | http://joxi.ru/xAeGlBpc5NG8my |
| 12:15.26 | Iridos | Che-Anarc, probably... something around /proc/sys/net/ipv4/*max* |
| 12:15.27 | barmaglot | all needed path is included in ENV_PATH veriable |
| 12:16.05 | barmaglot | but mysql_install_db couldn`t find next script |
| 12:16.10 | Che-Anarc | Iridos, I'm getting strange disconnections / drop out after a certain load - even though I have plenty more system resources - do you think I'd need to just adjust / increase net.ipv4.tcp_rmem? |
| 12:16.12 | barmaglot | mysql_install_db |
| 12:16.16 | barmaglot | http://joxi.ru/eAOqaWZCDBPYmo |
| 12:16.21 | barmaglot | why ?? |
| 12:16.33 | Epakai | barmaglot: you're running ubuntu, sudo is not using the default path |
| 12:16.55 | Che-Anarc | Its very weird after exactly 2000 concurrent connections I get dropout / disconnects beyond |
| 12:20.24 | Epakai | perhaps not ubuntu, i might be confusing the script's search prompt |
| 12:20.43 | Iridos | Che-Anarc, no idea... maybe more something for... dunno ##networking? but I'd think getting >2000 connections isn't something rare for webservers |
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| 12:22.09 | wfq | hi guys |
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| 12:22.38 | turtleding | hey wfq |
| 12:23.11 | pflanze | Why is "discard" not enabled by default (on ext4)? |
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| 12:23.50 | wfq | This is one of the outputs of my fstab file: /dev/sda7 on /mnt/data type ext4 (rw,relatime,data=ordered) --> Should that mean that I can start using that partition right away?. When I go to /mnt/data the create folder option of my xfce is greyed out |
| 12:26.27 | wfq | hmm just realised that it is an xfce problem rather than a debian one |
| 12:26.28 | wfq | sorry |
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| 12:27.15 | barmaglot | Epakai: it`s debian whezzy |
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| 12:28.02 | barmaglot | Epakai: i run it without sudo, via root |
| 12:28.31 | darxmurf | gosh... 4 millions files to rsync it takes ages ... |
| 12:29.10 | barmaglot | http://joxi.ru/Y2LjLQdsqBZ8r6 |
| 12:29.13 | barmaglot | whf ? |
| 12:30.06 | Epakai | why are you setting basedir? did you install your own version of mysql? |
| 12:30.24 | themill | barmaglot: how did you install mysql? It's certainly not from the debian packages... |
| 12:31.03 | barmaglot | themill: mysql-server-5.5 - MySQL database server binaries and system database setup |
| 12:31.36 | themill | barmaglot: and where is that package from? |
| 12:33.02 | themill | barmaglot: and as Epakai said, setting basedir like that is not the right thing to do. |
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| 12:35.24 | barmaglot | themill: try install mysql from zero |
| 12:35.26 | barmaglot | http://joxi.ru/L21LeG7saKY4mX |
| 12:36.10 | themill | Deleting config files isn't always the best approach. |
| 12:36.27 | barmaglot | how config files are deleted ? |
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| 12:36.38 | TomyWork | I have a wheezy system with a symlink /var/run -> /run. Is that the default on a newly installed system? |
| 12:36.42 | barmaglot | i want install mysql from zero, from clear system |
| 12:36.58 | themill | barmaglot: you'll need to purge all mysql* packages. |
| 12:37.00 | barmaglot | from clear state |
| 12:37.07 | themill | dpkg: tell barmaglot about purge |
| 12:37.07 | barmaglot | how ? |
| 12:37.12 | barmaglot | okay |
| 12:37.20 | barmaglot | i read about it now |
| 12:38.14 | barmaglot | themill: okay http://joxi.ru/DrlaPBwTxlLwmP |
| 12:39.02 | themill | that's (a) not purging and (b) not all mysql-* packages. |
| 12:39.23 | barmaglot | themill: i also does aptitude purge mysql-server-5.5 |
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| 12:39.40 | barmaglot | it`s all ? |
| 12:39.42 | Iridos | also... does anything touch the database files? they're user files, so I don't think packages will touch them easily? |
| 12:39.45 | themill | barmaglot: no |
| 12:40.02 | barmaglot | themill: http://joxi.ru/nAyz3JaFbEparZ |
| 12:40.27 | themill | keep going |
| 12:40.48 | barmaglot | themill: i run apt-get remove, dpkg --remove and aptitude purge on mysql-server-5.5 package |
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| 12:42.01 | fazz | han an HP Mini and wireless network not working with Debian LXDE |
| 12:42.06 | fazz | have an |
| 12:42.58 | barmaglot | themill: now i run apt-get install mysql-server |
| 12:43.21 | barmaglot | instead of mysql-server-5. |
| 12:43.25 | barmaglot | 5* |
| 12:43.58 | themill | barmaglot: that's not all the mysql packages still |
| 12:44.14 | themill | barmaglot: aptitude search ~nmysql~i |
| 12:44.41 | barmaglot | http://joxi.ru/vAWD1OksldvWrW |
| 12:45.13 | barmaglot | how purge it all with all it`s configs? |
| 12:45.23 | themill | same way. |
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| 12:45.37 | barmaglot | themill: dpkg -P ? |
| 12:45.42 | barmaglot | on each ? |
| 12:46.05 | themill | Iridos: ack. That's a later problem. |
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| 12:46.48 | Iridos | themill? |
| 12:46.52 | barmaglot | themill: i try it ? dpkg -P libdbd-mysql-perl libmysqlclient18 mysql-client-5.5 mysql-common mysql-server mysql-server-5.5 mysql-server-core-5.5 |
| 12:47.08 | Iridos | oh, that |
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| 12:48.21 | barmaglot | themill: after that command http://joxi.ru/52a10BGte18D20 |
| 12:48.36 | barmaglot | why this config ws not removed? |
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| 12:51.15 | SynrG | barmaglot: /etc/mysql/debian.cnf is not owned by any package |
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| 12:51.27 | barmaglot | SynrG: aa... okay |
| 12:51.30 | SynrG | it is either manually or script-created |
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| 12:53.02 | barmaglot | SynrG: if i want move datadir and basedir to another locatiùò ( partition ) |
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| 12:53.20 | barmaglot | what can i do ? change it in my.cnf and restart service ? yet ? |
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| 12:53.31 | themill | You don't want to move basedir -- that's your problem. |
| 12:54.27 | themill | And as for moving the database files, I'd be tempted to just shut down the daemon, move /var/lib/mysql/ and then pop a symlink in place |
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| 12:55.50 | barmaglot | themill: |
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| 12:56.23 | barmaglot | themill: my partition table http://joxi.ru/brRDOK3s6XyD21 |
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| 12:56.43 | barmaglot | mysql put your data into /var/lib/mysql |
| 12:56.54 | barmaglot | but it partition has 2.4G available |
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| 12:57.12 | themill | just how big is this database going to be? |
| 12:57.30 | barmaglot | althought /home has 814G |
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| 12:57.46 | barmaglot | themill: as min 50G |
| 12:57.48 | mitt | hi, I'm running Debian and CentOS dualboot, on grub when clicking on CentOS it's error, need to load kernel first, and when trying to update-grub it is "/usr/sbin/grub-probe: error: unknown filesystem" |
| 12:57.58 | themill | egads. I wouldn't be touching that with mysql. |
| 12:58.09 | barmaglot | themill: i think it will be 100 and more Gygabytes |
| 12:58.29 | petn-randall | pflanze: Do you have a Samsung Evo 840? |
| 12:58.29 | themill | well I'd just use a symlink as I said |
| 12:58.33 | baum | newbie question: i'm about to install debian on my notebook - now the question i'm asking myselfe is: what would be the best methode to fully encrypt the ssd? |
| 12:58.42 | barmaglot | themill: i think, but, can i move datadir to another partition ? |
| 12:58.56 | barmaglot | themill: symlink ? |
| 12:59.25 | petn-randall | pflanze: discard is not set by default, because it is a slow process, and you might want to batch TRIM via a cron job. |
| 12:59.28 | themill | yes |
| 12:59.29 | barmaglot | datadir is symlink on /home/mysql/data for instance ? |
| 12:59.40 | barmaglot | i can create it via ln -s ? |
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| 13:00.26 | barmaglot | themill: but how can i do it now... if all files already in /var/lib/mysql |
| 13:00.42 | themill | [23:54] <themill> And as for moving the database files, I'd be tempted to just shut down the daemon, move /var/lib/mysql/ and then pop a symlink in place |
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| 13:00.48 | barmaglot | and i want that they really will be on /home/mysql |
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| 13:01.07 | barmaglot | wait a moment pls |
| 13:01.33 | barmaglot | sorry i`m worry |
| 13:01.50 | barmaglot | thanks a lot for a help to me |
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| 13:02.09 | lostNick | vertuabox leave me with corrupt disk after comfrom suspended mode, what other |
| 13:02.50 | lostNick | what is best alternative to virtualbox? |
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| 13:04.32 | rgr | I doubt its VB since millions of people use it daily. Look closer to home. |
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| 13:05.16 | barmaglot | themill: i create symlink on /home/mysql , from /var/lib/mysql, but got errrors on service start - http://joxi.ru/EA4Ne4JSM7o5mb |
| 13:05.42 | barmaglot | Can't open the mysql.plugin table |
| 13:05.55 | barmaglot | Fatal error: Can't open and lock privilege tables: Table 'mysql.host' doesn't exist |
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| 13:07.42 | lostNick | rgr this is 3rd time i will be installing windows on vbox and i am sure suspend mode leave. vbox in dark. |
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| 13:07.55 | barmaglot | themill: i remake all actions above |
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| 13:19.51 | ribamar_ | petn-randall: thanks. by the way, |
| 13:20.23 | ribamar_ | i needed to reinstall some packages by hand ( libgl1-nvidia-glx-i386). but it is working now =) |
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| 13:21.49 | erbo | Does anyone know why there's no lxc-dev package in debian? In sid I can only find the lxc-* binaries, but nothings ships the headers + .pc file for using liblxc |
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| 13:25.16 | petn-randall | ribamar_: Ah, glad I could help. ia32-libs was already a transitional package in wheezy, it was removed in jessie. Nothing should depend on that, but instead on on the specific arch and packages. |
| 13:26.03 | petn-randall | ,v lxc-dev |
| 13:26.04 | judd | Package: lxc-dev on i386 -- squeeze-backports: 0.8.0~rc1-4~bpo60+1; wheezy: 0.8.0~rc1-8+deb7u2 |
| 13:26.21 | petn-randall | erbo: There is such a package in Debian ... ^^^^^ |
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| 13:36.07 | viruser | Does amd64 repository contain less packages compared to i686 repository? |
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| 13:38.08 | themill | viruser: http://paste.debian.net/152305/ not really |
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| 13:38.33 | polyphagia | where'd you get a db of them themill |
| 13:38.47 | themill | that's judd's |
| 13:38.53 | themill | !udd |
| 13:38.54 | dpkg | The Ultimate Debian Database (UDD) is an effort to gather lots of useful information about Debian from a variety of sources and stuff it all into a giant PostgreSQL database. http://wiki.debian.org/UltimateDebianDatabase http://udd.debian.org/ |
| 13:39.40 | viruser | huh, then i guess my problem of my favorite softwares not being in repositories isn't arch related |
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| 13:39.46 | polyphagia | damn that's cool themill thanks |
| 13:39.56 | themill | viruser: what are you looking for? |
| 13:40.08 | polyphagia | although it's not obvious right away that it contains package info |
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| 13:40.40 | polyphagia | nvm i guess it is |
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| 13:41.23 | viruser | themill, Well, I'm not sure.. I think some softwares are just too new to expect to exist in wheezy reps. Like for example, hexchat or qupzilla |
| 13:41.35 | themill | hexchat is in wheezy-backports |
| 13:41.39 | viruser | repos* |
| 13:42.00 | themill | and so is qupzilla |
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| 13:42.14 | viruser | I see |
| 13:42.25 | pflanze | petn-randall, lshw says "product: Samsung SSD 840", I'm not sure that's an Evo. Using fstrim on my drive made it go up to 90MB/s, which is better but still bad. |
| 13:42.30 | viruser | I'll add wheezy-backports to sources.list |
| 13:42.30 | erbo | petn-randall: apt-get install lxc-dev claims it has no install candidate and is replaced by lxc, which does not ship headers + pkgconfig file as I would expect from a -dev package. |
| 13:42.33 | viruser | thanks for the info |
| 13:42.34 | polyphagia | lol the default screenshot for hexchat |
| 13:42.38 | erbo | or is my setup broken somehow? |
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| 13:43.13 | petn-randall | pflanze: The 840 Evo has a firmware bug that causes performance problems. Look up if your SSD is affected. |
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| 13:43.30 | petn-randall | erbo: Which OS/release are you running? |
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| 13:43.49 | erbo | petn-randall: debian sid |
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| 13:44.59 | petn-randall | erbo: We support jessie/sid in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net. |
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| 13:46.23 | erbo | petn-randall: Oh, my bad. Thanks for pointing me to the right channel |
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| 13:47.34 | petn-randall | erbo: See you there. |
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| 14:12.13 | icebolt | hi! |
| 14:12.24 | icebolt | I want to ask help from somebody |
| 14:12.38 | icebolt | Can I ask help? :) |
| 14:12.51 | iamganesh | (ubottu) Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line and in the channel, so that others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) See also !patience |
| 14:13.00 | icebolt | ok |
| 14:13.20 | icebolt | I try to log in squirrelmail with Windows |
| 14:13.37 | icebolt | I use Debian with squirrelmail and courier-imap server |
| 14:13.52 | icebolt | in Windows squirrelmail always write |
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| 14:14.03 | icebolt | The IMAP server drop the connection |
| 14:14.08 | icebolt | why is it? |
| 14:14.16 | icebolt | why did it (sorry) |
| 14:14.18 | icebolt | ? |
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| 14:14.39 | icebolt | Can somebody help me? |
| 14:14.52 | icebolt | I use two virtual machines in VirtualBox |
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| 14:15.01 | icebolt | Windows and Debian |
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| 14:15.12 | iamganesh | You can type your question elaborately at once. Please be patient and describe the problem again. :) |
| 14:16.12 | icebolt | ok |
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| 14:16.29 | icebolt | I use VirtualBox with two virtual machines |
| 14:16.35 | icebolt | Debian and Windows |
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| 14:17.02 | icebolt | Debian : squirrelmail , courier-imap server |
| 14:17.12 | icebolt | in Windows |
| 14:17.23 | icebolt | I try to log in squirrelmail |
| 14:17.27 | icebolt | with a browser |
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| 14:17.41 | icebolt | The two machines see each other |
| 14:17.52 | icebolt | so the network works |
| 14:18.11 | icebolt | but when I type in the username and password then click to login |
| 14:18.18 | icebolt | I get a message |
| 14:18.30 | icebolt | Error : The IMAP server dropped the connection |
| 14:18.43 | icebolt | I don't know why |
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| 14:20.15 | pflanze | petn-randall, ah!, I'll look into that (firmware bug) later, thanks for the heads-up. (Busy with sth else now.) |
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| 14:20.47 | icebolt | Do somebody know ehy? |
| 14:20.52 | icebolt | why |
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| 14:22.19 | icebolt | imagenesh? |
| 14:22.27 | icebolt | Somebody? |
| 14:23.11 | Brigo | icebolt, debian or windows? |
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| 14:23.32 | icebolt | Brigo |
| 14:23.36 | icebolt | Debian isthe server |
| 14:23.42 | icebolt | Windows is the client |
| 14:23.51 | Brigo | icebolt, the problem is the login, you have it misconfigured. |
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| 14:24.09 | icebolt | but where misconfigured ? |
| 14:24.10 | Brigo | icebolt, check the imap server logs |
| 14:24.19 | icebolt | ok |
| 14:24.24 | icebolt | I'll check |
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| 14:25.41 | Brigo | icebolt, if unsure paste the log in paste.debian.net so we can check it too. |
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| 14:25.53 | icebolt | ok |
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| 14:26.44 | icebolt | Brigo: Is this log in mail.log?? |
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| 14:26.44 | icebolt | Because i didn't find specially imap in /var/log |
| 14:26.44 | icebolt | only mail.log |
| 14:26.44 | Brigo | icebolt, it could be, not sure where you imap sever uses to log |
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| 14:27.26 | Brigo | icebolt, are you using wheezy? |
| 14:27.31 | icebolt | yes |
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| 14:27.48 | icebolt | a minute |
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| 14:28.09 | Brigo | no hurry, we have time. :) |
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| 14:31.38 | iceboltxp | here it is |
| 14:31.40 | iceboltxp | http://paste.debian.net/152337/ |
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| 14:32.05 | iceboltxp | I think we should see it from 17:00 |
| 14:32.21 | iceboltxp | oh no |
| 14:32.32 | iceboltxp | feb 19 :P |
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| 14:32.45 | iceboltxp | from feb19 |
| 14:33.18 | icebolt | Brigo: Are you here? |
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| 14:33.45 | icebolt | here it is the log |
| 14:33.46 | Brigo | i am Checking you log, icebolt |
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| 14:35.22 | Brigo | icebolt, look at the 2 last lines. |
| 14:35.35 | icebolt | I looked |
| 14:35.38 | icebolt | now |
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| 14:35.52 | icebolt | but I didn't understand it |
| 14:35.55 | icebolt | there is |
| 14:36.01 | icebolt | such like directory |
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| 14:36.02 | icebolt | or user |
| 14:36.10 | icebolt | I have attila user |
| 14:36.13 | Brigo | i could be the problem, as i said misconfiguring something. You need those directories with the right permissions and owners. |
| 14:36.46 | icebolt | I am not too professional in Linux yet :) |
| 14:36.46 | Brigo | icebolt, those directories are where your imap server will save the mail -or try to read from-. |
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| 14:37.25 | icebolt | chmod maybe?? |
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| 14:37.45 | Brigo | icebolt, try to look for a courier tutorial or something. I can help you as long as i have never used courier. |
| 14:38.05 | icebolt | thanks |
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| 14:39.13 | icebolt | hi!:) |
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| 14:39.18 | icebolt | bye |
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| 14:41.44 | MikeSeth | his courier is misconfigured like shit |
| 14:41.58 | MikeSeth | also ipv6 localhost connection |
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| 14:42.35 | icebolt | Is there anybody who knows courier-imap server ?:) |
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| 14:43.47 | Walex | icebolt: the web |
| 14:43.55 | icebolt | oh I know |
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| 14:44.02 | icebolt | butmaybe an alive person |
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| 14:44.49 | Walex | icebolt: let's say that Courier is an acquired taste :-) |
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| 14:45.00 | Brigo | !courier |
| 14:45.00 | dpkg | Courier mail server is a <MTA>, providing ESMTP, IMAP, POP3, webmail and mailing list services using additional components. http://www.courier-mta.org/FAQ.html http://www.courier-mta.org/ #courier on irc.freenode.net. |
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| 14:45.32 | icebolt | what do you prefer instead of courier |
| 14:45.33 | icebolt | ? |
| 14:45.39 | icebolt | maybe I will try another server |
| 14:46.48 | Brigo | icebolt, are you trying to mount a mail server? |
| 14:46.59 | icebolt | noh |
| 14:47.11 | icebolt | I just try to log in squirrelmail with a host |
| 14:47.18 | icebolt | Windows client |
| 14:47.20 | icebolt | sorry |
| 14:47.29 | icebolt | not host , client |
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| 14:47.51 | icebolt | squirrelmail + courier-imap combo |
| 14:48.00 | Brigo | squirrelmail is a web mail client, you need a mail server firts. |
| 14:48.14 | icebolt | I have postfix on the virtual Debian |
| 14:48.18 | Brigo | icebolt, + postfix as i saw in your log. |
| 14:48.24 | icebolt | yeah |
| 14:48.30 | icebolt | Brigo I have postfix |
| 14:48.54 | Brigo | icebolt, as i said :) |
| 14:48.56 | icebolt | postfix + squirrelmail + courier-imap combination |
| 14:49.35 | icebolt | and I don't know why drop the IMAP server the connection?? |
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| 14:50.20 | icebolt | I added permission with chmod , Brigo |
| 14:50.27 | icebolt | but it didn't help |
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| 14:50.37 | Brigo | icebolt, you know it, logs told you. |
| 14:50.58 | icebolt | that's the problem, that I don't know |
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| 14:51.06 | icebolt | that's why I came here :P |
| 14:51.52 | Brigo | icebolt, that is de debian support channel, no courier. |
| 14:52.06 | Brigo | as dpkg told you there is a #courier channel |
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| 14:52.36 | icebolt | I understand |
| 14:52.42 | icebolt | Is there #courier? :D |
| 14:52.42 | icebolt | XD |
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| 15:37.29 | onur | hi guys. what does ckt means in kernel package version? |
| 15:37.49 | onur | ahh its cannonical kernel team |
| 15:37.50 | Walex | onur: I think the initials of the packager |
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| 15:38.03 | Walex | onur: yes... |
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| 15:49.02 | kim_bruning | am i mistaken or did I just see aptitude tell me to "please press return to continue" |
| 15:49.13 | kim_bruning | are there any keyboards that still have a key marked return? |
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| 15:50.23 | Sark | I have quite a few like that. |
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| 15:50.36 | Sark | But, then again, all of my computer hardware is at *least* 10 years old. |
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| 15:50.50 | Sark | I don't know what the keys on what passes for a keyboard these days are marked as. |
| 15:51.45 | kim_bruning | I figure pretty much everyone has "Enter" |
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| 16:02.27 | roshanavand | Hi, what's the best way to calculate a route? for example I want to summarize the route for networks 172.16.1.0/24, 172.16.3.0/24, and 172.16.15.0/24 |
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| 16:05.09 | fawick | hi |
| 16:05.40 | n3t | Hello. |
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| 16:10.17 | salamisami | anyone here by any chance running linux phc undervolting |
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| 16:11.19 | la_maquina | roshanavand: route add -net 172.16.0.0/16 gw eth1 or wharever |
| 16:12.12 | roshanavand | la_maquina: I actually need a tool to do route summarization |
| 16:12.32 | roshanavand | I know how to write a route command :) |
| 16:12.54 | roshanavand | something like ipcalc for subnet calculation |
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| 16:20.04 | Brigo | roshanavand, check this: https://asecuritysite.com/IP/routesum |
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| 16:20.27 | petn-randall | !tell salamisami -about anyone |
| 16:20.54 | roshanavand | Brigo: this sounds good, thank you |
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| 16:48.32 | kim_bruning | on debian stable service asterisk start does not seem to read my configuration files, does not open port 5060 .... what's going on? is it a permissions issue maybe? |
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| 16:51.23 | la_maquina | kim_bruning: I assume that you viewed the README.Debian file for asterisk |
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| 16:55.28 | kim_bruning | la_maquina, not yet... also it was my fault since the dir permissions for the /etc dir were borked... likely by me ;-) |
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| 16:56.18 | petn-randall | kim_bruning: Usually the first way to debug is to run the app in the foreground with any debug parameters, and see where it complains. |
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| 16:56.59 | kim_bruning | petn-randall, in my case when I ran it in the foreground it actually ran fine! |
| 16:57.17 | kim_bruning | petn-randall, then I figured it was running as user asterisk, and didn't have access to /etc/asterisk :-P |
| 16:57.23 | petn-randall | kim_bruning: Apparently not the way the init script does, then :) |
| 16:57.52 | kim_bruning | petn-randall, zigzacktly. init ran it as it's own user. chowning the /etc subdir fixed it |
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| 16:58.39 | MadTBone | if anyone remembers back this far, was there a point where Linux passwords were inherently limited to a maximum of 8 characters? Perhaps because of a hash algorithm limitation? |
| 16:58.40 | webmind | ohai |
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| 16:59.16 | webmind | I'm looking into reprinting debian shirts and wondering if the classic swirl is best on it's own or best with 'debian' under it. |
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| 17:00.06 | petemc | MadTBone: think it was crypt |
| 17:04.20 | MadTBone | petemc: I seem to remember that... do you think that was still around in 2.4.x? or did it mostly go away after 2.2.x? From my very foggy memory, I seem to think 2.4 kernel based distros had no issue with limits (or at least not only 8 characters...) |
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| 17:05.19 | frostschutz | there was some kind of hash that simply ignored everything beyond the 8th letter, not sure if it was used for linux passwords specifically, but it was common |
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| 17:06.10 | frostschutz | in a manner of speaking that problem still exists today, luks has length limits too |
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| 17:06.47 | Pegasus_RPG | Hello. I'm seeing a slowdown of Web applications that use my SQL server after a recent upgrade of libpq5. How can I find out why? I've tried enabling Xdebug's PHP profiler but no logs are being written to the output dir. How can I troubleshoot /that/? |
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| 17:07.43 | MadTBone | of course, every hash or crypto algorithm will have limits. But 8 characters seems absurdly easy to brute force, even by ten+ year old standards... |
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| 17:08.46 | frostschutz | MadTBone, if you use luks with sha-1 and a, I dunno, 64 byte? or longer keyfile, you're really just using a 20 byte keyfile. something like that |
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| 17:10.05 | frostschutz | the 20 byte being the hash of your longer phrase or key |
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| 17:14.55 | MadTBone | frostschutz: can you link to more info? |
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| 17:15.48 | c-c | Pegasus_RPG: #PHP? or #apache? or such |
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| 17:16.54 | Pegasus_RPG | c-c: okay thanks |
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| 17:18.36 | c-c | Pegasus_RPG: whats libpq5 anyway? |
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| 17:18.55 | Pegasus_RPG | PostgreSQL connection library |
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| 17:19.22 | c-c | so, why debug the conn, why not debug the base |
| 17:19.31 | c-c | iow #postgre or similar chan |
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| 17:20.17 | frostschutz | MadTBone, https://mathiasbynens.be/notes/pbkdf2-hmac |
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| 17:20.25 | NoImNotNineVolt | is "iow" the new "i.e."? |
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| 17:20.38 | Pegasus_RPG | c-c: because the problem started after the debian package update |
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| 17:22.02 | MadTBone | frostschutz: thanks. this is a good read. |
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| 17:26.57 | c-c | Pegasus_RPG: well, perhaps its on the PHP end |
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| 17:28.50 | Pegasus_RPG | c-c: yeah, that's what I'm thinking. I can't get the profiler working though |
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| 17:30.02 | c-c | well, I'd start with the sql end though |
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| 17:30.44 | Juon | Hi guys |
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| 17:32.00 | oftc-webi | fuck systemd? |
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| 17:32.09 | oftc-webi | fuck systemd? |
| 17:32.10 | oftc-webi | fuck systemd? |
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| 17:40.03 | libre | Hello, i just installed nullmailer and configured it to use my gmail account, it is working fine. I notices that when i make a command like "sudo su" and i enter 3 times a wrong password an email is sent to root@mydomain.com. I would like to be able to send it to admin@mydomain.com which already exists but i ve passed 2 hours with no results. I've |
| 17:40.03 | libre | tried to add an alias in /etc/aliases like "root: admin@mydomain.com" and run "newaliases" command but when it keep sending emails to root@mydomain.com. Could you help me please ? :) |
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| 17:41.11 | Brigo | libre, did you check /etc/aliases ? |
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| 17:41.59 | libre | that's my /etc/aliases -> # /etc/aliases |
| 17:41.59 | libre | mailer-daemon: postmaster |
| 17:41.59 | libre | postmaster: root |
| 17:41.59 | libre | nobody: root |
| 17:41.59 | libre | hostmaster: root |
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| 17:42.19 | Brigo | or /etc/email-addresses |
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| 17:43.03 | libre1 | oops i did a stupid thing |
| 17:43.10 | libre1 | this is my /etc/aliases -> http://pastebin.com/yk0qY750 |
| 17:43.37 | libre1 | sorry mate did not see your last message, just heard the pop |
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| 17:46.38 | la_maquina | libre1: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=95624 |
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| 17:49.02 | la_maquina | libre1: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1623900 |
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| 17:50.55 | libre1 | many thanks, i've tried to put an address in adminaddr but it send a copy to this address and still sending a mail to root@mydomain.com |
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| 18:00.03 | libre1 | i'm not alone -> http://superuser.com/questions/376124/configuring-nullmailer-on-linux |
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| 18:04.54 | hTmlDP | hey guys |
| 18:05.10 | hTmlDP | is KDE much heavier than Xfce? |
| 18:05.22 | NoImNotNineVolt | yes. |
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| 18:05.56 | NoImNotNineVolt | hard to say. i'm not sure. |
| 18:06.28 | hTmlDP | will it run smoothly on my machine? (2GB of ram, nvidia ion2, 2x 2GHz) |
| 18:08.06 | mtn | hTmlDP: it weighs 3.5 times as much :P |
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| 18:08.22 | ochiottes | hTmlDP: probably. I have it running smoothly on a 1600 MHz AMD with 2GB DDR2 RAM |
| 18:08.27 | mtn | hTmlDP: if you are careful it will run in 2G of ram |
| 18:08.52 | hTmlDP | ok thanks guys |
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| 18:08.59 | hTmlDP | is it nicer than xfce? |
| 18:09.07 | mtn | hTmlDP: some think so |
| 18:09.17 | hTmlDP | It looks so cute on the screenshots :D |
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| 18:32.43 | srg | When I select the encrypted option from the debian-installer, what does it use? luks? |
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| 18:34.40 | Pegasus_RPG | Hello. A recent update seems to have greatly slowed down PHP session handling. It takes about 3 seconds for each page that uses any kind of session variable or function to load |
| 18:35.14 | Pegasus_RPG | I tried profiling my PHP code and it only takes a fraction of a second. |
| 18:35.37 | Pegasus_RPG | I'm seeing the problem on a couple of servers I run |
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| 18:35.56 | Pegasus_RPG | both running Debian Stable |
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| 18:38.42 | msgctl | Hi. I can't get exim to listen on submission (587), even though I added "daemon_smtp_ports = 25 : 587 : 465" to template file and it's available via exim -bP 'daemon_smtp_ports' |
| 18:38.44 | msgctl | Any clue? |
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| 18:39.31 | jhutchins | Pegasus_RPG: Is this your own PHP code or is it a public project? |
| 18:39.41 | Pegasus_RPG | My own |
| 18:39.53 | jhutchins | Pegasus_RPG: Do you use memcached? |
| 18:39.57 | Pegasus_RPG | I don't |
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| 18:40.26 | jhutchins | Pegasus_RPG: It can have a great effect on performance, but it does sound like you might have hit a glitch. |
| 18:41.15 | Pegasus_RPG | It's driving my users nuts (and me trying to troubleshoot.) What can I try? |
| 18:42.17 | Pegasus_RPG | FWIW, /tmp remains empty even when there's an active session |
| 18:44.02 | Pegasus_RPG | jhutchins: ^ |
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| 18:44.38 | vamps | Pegasus_RPG: sessions are stored here /var/lib/php5/ |
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| 18:47.51 | Pegasus_RPG | vamps: ok thanks. Permissions are good there, so that's not it |
| 18:48.45 | vamps | Pegasus_RPG: how many files do you have in this directory ? |
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| 18:48.52 | Pegasus_RPG | vamps: 3 |
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| 18:49.33 | vamps | Pegasus_RPG: maybe https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1914242/problem-with-function-session-start-works-slowly/1914266#1914266 |
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| 18:53.21 | Pegasus_RPG | vamps: but I'm not sending two requests to session_start() |
| 18:53.35 | Pegasus_RPG | And this only started being a problem on Monday |
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| 18:54.50 | Pegasus_RPG | after installing libxml2:amd64 (2.8.0+dfsg1-7+wheezy2, 2.8.0+dfsg1-7+wheezy3), ntp:amd64 (4.2.6.p5+dfsg-2+deb7u2, 4.2.6.p5+dfsg-2+deb7u3), libpq5:amd64 (9.1.14-0+deb7u1, 9.1.15-0+deb7u1) |
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| 18:56.59 | vamps | Pegasus_RPG: I doubt the issue is related to this packages |
| 18:57.21 | vol4ko | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:57.21 | vol4ko | denied, anyone know what's the issue i spent 2 days on this already |
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| 19:00.30 | Pegasus_RPG | vamps: the host machine had these installed as well: http://paste.debian.net/plain/152510 |
| 19:00.39 | Pegasus_RPG | (My Web servers run as OpenVZ containers) |
| 19:01.12 | vamps | did you try to strace the process ? |
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| 19:05.55 | Pegasus_RPG | vamps: which one? Apache runs 6 of them |
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| 19:06.54 | vamps | Pegasus_RPG: all of them, you don't know which one will receive the connection |
| 19:06.58 | jhutchins | Pegasus_RPG: I see proxmox updates in there - is that what you're using for containers? |
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| 19:08.22 | jhutchins | Pegasus_RPG: None of your updates look like they would affect the webserver or PHP, so it's either some subsystem you're using or possibly your container system. |
| 19:08.43 | Pegasus_RPG | jhutchins: yes, I'm using ProxMox |
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| 19:10.02 | jhutchins | !proxmox |
| 19:10.03 | dpkg | Proxmox Virtual Environment (Proxmox VE) is a GNU/Linux distribution <based on Debian>, providing a virtualization platform with <OpenVZ> and <KVM>. It is not supported in #debian. http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Get_support |
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| 19:10.51 | jhutchins | Pegasus_RPG: I can see several structural differences that make it pretty pointless for us to try and diagnose the problem. You're not running on Debian. |
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| 19:11.08 | jhutchins | Pegasus_RPG: Your updates are not Debian updates. |
| 19:11.44 | Pegasus_RPG | :/ |
| 19:11.57 | hTmlDP | Hey guys |
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| 19:12.05 | hTmlDP | im installing KDE5 on Wheezy |
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| 19:12.27 | Pegasus_RPG | jhutchins: fair enough, but the container itself was installed with stock Debian. THe only thing different is the kernel (since that's shared with the host) |
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| 19:13.10 | hTmlDP | How much time may the "Preconfiguring packets" step take? [Intel Atom 2x 2GHz, 2GB RAM] |
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| 19:14.10 | valdyn | hTmlDP: varies |
| 19:14.21 | hTmlDP | valdyn: more than 1 hour? |
| 19:14.27 | valdyn | hTmlDP: no |
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| 19:14.45 | hTmlDP | valdyn: [1,5 GB of disk space will be taken] |
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| 19:15.22 | hTmlDP | valdyn: i've been waiting for 10 minutes yet |
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| 19:17.01 | Pegasus_RPG | jhutchins: if I want to try memcached, is it just a matter of installing php5-memcached or must I modify my PHP code to use it? |
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| 19:23.44 | jhutchins | Pegasus_RPG: It's so simple I don't really remember the steps. You need the memcached daemon, and you need the php hooks to use it. I run Drupal, and I had to add a module that enabled it. |
| 19:23.52 | jhutchins | Pegasus_RPG: http://memcached.org/ |
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| 19:24.32 | jhutchins | Pegasus_RPG: I understand the Debian containers, but the files you showed updating should not have affected any of that. |
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| 19:26.18 | jhutchins | Pegasus_RPG: memcached took my pages from ~6 seconds to .34 |
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| 19:28.15 | tharkun | An hdd backup with lots of personal information was overwritten by a cp command from one device to another. Is the information retrievable? |
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| 19:29.47 | tharkun | Only 1 GB was overwritten and the rest of the hdd is not. Is there a program that will read and make sense of the rest of the hdd or am I just having false hopes? |
| 19:30.02 | Beliq | Hello folks, I got a troubles with Mongo package. The installation seem broken and I cannot remove it or reinstall it with apt-get. I always got E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1) Any hints ? |
| 19:30.05 | NoImNotNineVolt | read, yes. make sense of, possibly. |
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| 19:30.36 | tharkun | Beliq: Try making some free space on the /var partition of your system |
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| 19:31.29 | Beliq | tharkun: got couple of hundred GBs |
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| 19:32.53 | tremon | Beliq: that's not the only line in the output, is it? |
| 19:34.07 | Beliq | tremon: http://pastebin.com/njP2wQjT |
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| 19:40.32 | Pegasus_RPG | jhutchins: I just implemented memcached and there's no difference |
| 19:40.39 | Pegasus_RPG | it's got to be somewhere else |
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| 19:42.55 | Pegasus_RPG | I still see ~3s delay when loading a page that uses sessions |
| 19:42.58 | Pegasus_RPG | wtf |
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| 19:45.11 | tremon | Beliq: have you tried reinstalling the package? Please paste full output, including the command you used? |
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| 19:49.17 | Beliq | tremon: I guess it is a problem with dpkg http://pastebin.com/kmMdZzxV |
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| 19:51.16 | tremon | Beliq: that last command is still trying to remove mongodb-10gen. Try apt-get download $pkg, followed by a manual dpkg -i |
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| 19:53.00 | arun__ | guys, how can we install this http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/systemd-devel/2015-February/028447.html ?? |
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| 19:54.54 | dondelelcaro | arun__: it's in experimental |
| 19:55.01 | dondelelcaro | ,versions systemd |
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| 20:12.04 | jhutchins | Pegasus_RPG: Yeah, I didn't mean to imply that memcached would fix your problem - I think that's outside the PHP stack. It might show a nice improvement once you get the slowdown figured out. |
| 20:12.43 | Pegasus_RPG | It was good for confirming at least |
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| 20:20.48 | andril | hello |
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| 20:26.06 | innmalint | anyone else run debian as a virtualbox guest? |
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| 20:26.58 | innmalint | if so...i've been trying for a while to change/increase my framebuffer (or tty, not sure which to call it) resolution |
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| 20:31.01 | jhutchins | innmalint: #vbox |
| 20:31.09 | Guest53443 | hi folks, since i've updated to jessie, programs are starting on boot, although they are disabled on systemv-rc-conf...y is that? is there a new system which handles these objects? |
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| 20:35.08 | Brigo | Guest53443, may be systemd |
| 20:35.41 | lexvegas | I wonder what d system starting the programs might be... |
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| 20:38.39 | teraflops | debian by default set new installed services to start at boot I wonder if it's the same with systemd (I think it's a bad thing) |
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| 20:40.57 | valdyn | teraflops: of course |
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| 20:41.46 | teraflops | of course do you thing like me? or of course you also thing it's a bad behaviour? :P |
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| 20:42.06 | teraflops | think* |
| 20:42.07 | valdyn | teraflops: of course that behaviour does not change by switching to systemd |
| 20:42.26 | teraflops | ah valdyn yeah sounds logical |
| 20:42.33 | valdyn | teraflops: but the original premise is wrong - many services do not start on install by default |
| 20:42.44 | teraflops | valdyn: as in ... |
| 20:43.39 | valdyn | tremon: rsync, pulseaudio (the system service), the various nfs daemons |
| 20:44.21 | teraflops | anyway there are abuncho of ones that do start at boot by default not even given the user the opportunity to configure properly (note tor) |
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| 20:44.34 | teraflops | a bunch* |
| 20:45.28 | valdyn | teraflops: if tor did something wrong be default (starting alone does not qualify), then you should report that |
| 20:45.34 | nkuttler | teraflops: it depends which systemd packages you install |
| 20:45.39 | valdyn | teraflops: i think it only exposes a local service |
| 20:45.41 | teraflops | valdyn: it's just a thought im quite happy with debian |
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| 20:46.37 | valdyn | teraflops: of course, nothign wrong with that - im sure there at least has been services that did something stupid by default - but ususally some thought went into starting by default vs not starting |
| 20:47.06 | teraflops | nkuttler: my _thought_ is that theres no need to enable at boot by default any service at all |
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| 20:47.43 | teraflops | valdyn: yes |
| 20:47.45 | valdyn | teraflops: thats makes systems broken by default |
| 20:47.51 | teraflops | valdyn: no |
| 20:47.59 | valdyn | teraflops: yea it does |
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| 20:48.44 | valdyn | most obvious case being inetd |
| 20:49.20 | valdyn | or headless - then sshd |
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| 20:49.29 | teraflops | valdyn: ah thats not true, so journald is enabled by default and im worng .... oh boy |
| 20:49.49 | teraflops | valdyn: theres no need to enable sshd y default |
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| 20:50.00 | valdyn | teraflops: except when your system is headless |
| 20:50.12 | teraflops | nor apache gninx etc etc, also the pulse examle is spurious :P |
| 20:50.33 | valdyn | teraflops: spurious? its just off by defaut, period |
| 20:50.45 | nkuttler | teraflops: systemd isn't a "service" |
| 20:51.03 | teraflops | valdyn: again it's not a complain it's just a thought |
| 20:52.15 | teraflops | nkuttler: oh I see we can discuss about the clouds or the raimbows if you like, i think my point is clear to understand |
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| 20:53.26 | nkuttler | teraflops: anyway, this channel is for technical support questions. feel free to join #debian-offtopic to discuss personal preferences |
| 20:53.40 | digdilem | root |
| 20:53.47 | valdyn | youre just thinking some services need not be on by default - buts thats not sufficient or useful . You need to provide a compelling case why some service should be off rather than on by default. |
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| 20:55.29 | teraflops | valdyn: sorry it seems that nkuttler is not confortable with that discussion |
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| 21:05.15 | frikinz | Any idea why apt-cache policy would give me this: http://paste.debian.net/152587/ :second output (for owncloud) shows same source while first output has 2 sources for same version? in practice apt-get upgrade keeps on upgrading the same package |
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| 21:06.49 | frikinz | debsums shows all checksums ok |
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| 21:12.07 | valdyn | frikinz: different timestamp |
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| 21:12.29 | valdyn | frikinz: not sure where exactly, but your apt-get would probably want to upgrade this package |
| 21:12.41 | tyll | Hi, where can I find the source code for the debian patch tracker? |
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| 21:12.53 | valdyn | frikinz: (oh, you said already it wants to upgrade) |
| 21:13.28 | valdyn | frikinz: i have had upgrades to identical versions, but not repeatedly. May the timestamp is in the future. |
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| 21:14.14 | valdyn | tyll: patch tracker? you mean bug tracker? |
| 21:15.17 | frikinz | valdyn: thanks. Not sure where there would be a timestamp. You mean a timestamp on my machine? |
| 21:15.28 | valdyn | frikinz: no, the package |
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| 21:15.45 | valdyn | frikinz: timestamp on the .deb file probably |
| 21:16.22 | tyll | valdyn: there was a patch tracker at patch-tracker.debian.org - but it is gone now |
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| 21:16.33 | valdyn | frikinz: this is not something in inquired in depth, i just notice occasionally that apt does this. When I compile my own from source before its in repositories |
| 21:16.39 | tyll | valdyn: |
| 21:16.40 | tyll | https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/05/msg00889.html |
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| 21:17.08 | tyll | valdyn: I believe I saw the sources once somewhere on a debian system, but I do not remember where |
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| 21:17.37 | loki_ | Hi all |
| 21:17.41 | valdyn | tyll: i see |
| 21:17.48 | tyll | valdyn: urgh, sorry for the noise, I just found the links in a different subtree of the mail thread |
| 21:17.50 | loki_ | I'm setting up pxe for a rescue cd that uses debian-live |
| 21:17.57 | loki_ | when i boot it, it starts from vesamenu.c32 |
| 21:18.04 | loki_ | how can i make it boot directly to live ? |
| 21:18.26 | loki_ | I don't want to be required a vnc to the server just to press enter on the menu .. |
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| 21:23.30 | frikinz | valdyn: indeed there's something fishy. in my apt/archives its the only binary package related to owncloud which is one week old. all binary packages have been uploaded on the repo yesterday. |
| 21:23.58 | frikinz | valdyn: could be that they built a new bin package but file name and or version are identical |
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| 21:24.55 | frikinz | -rw-r--r-- 1 root root 6282 Feb 9 23:59 owncloud-app-user-external_8.0.0-5_all.deb |
| 21:25.10 | frikinz | hum 23:59. we didn't get a leap second did we? :) |
| 21:25.54 | frikinz | looks similar to https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=351056 |
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| 21:28.56 | frikinz | and my local md5 doesn't match the repo md5 |
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| 21:37.05 | frikinz | well, apt-get clean and update and upgrade solved it |
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| 21:40.48 | dopesmoker | prorietary drivers are awesome |
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| 21:42.28 | NoImNotNineVolt | you been smokin' too much dope |
| 21:43.56 | srg | Wow |
| 21:43.57 | frikinz | even more are the proprietary disk firmwares! |
| 21:44.04 | srg | I had a super weird issue with sshd |
| 21:44.07 | cuqa_ | hello, is it possible to just download a mirror with ftpsync from a specific config file? |
| 21:44.09 | srg | It suddenly refused to auth me. |
| 21:44.21 | srg | I logged in via my KVM, but it just was driving me nuts |
| 21:44.25 | srg | I couldn't get it to work |
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| 22:11.35 | keyfind_us | can anyone help with a hp mini wireless problem on debian lxde? |
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| 22:12.37 | srg | Ah, wireless is annoying on linux in general |
| 22:12.40 | srg | Well, can ben. |
| 22:12.42 | srg | can be* |
| 22:12.45 | srg | What's the problem, keyfind_us? |
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| 22:13.06 | keyfind_us | seems like it doesn't recognize wireless... |
| 22:13.17 | keyfind_us | light on key won't turn on for wireless.. |
| 22:13.28 | keyfind_us | maybe driver missing? |
| 22:13.53 | srg | I've never used wireless from a GUI. What does `sudo iwconfig` show? |
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| 22:14.20 | keyfind_us | i guess it would help if it was in front of me. |
| 22:14.30 | keyfind_us | i'll try that later. thanks! |
| 22:14.32 | srg | lol |
| 22:14.45 | srg | iwconfig should list your wireless interfaces (just like ifconfig lists wired interfaces) |
| 22:14.59 | srg | the connections are managed in /etc/network/interfaces |
| 22:15.21 | keyfind_us | thanks! |
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| 22:16.25 | keyfind_us | i know it works with ubuntu. |
| 22:16.36 | keyfind_us | so maybe a driver that is missing from debian? |
| 22:16.59 | keyfind_us | mint works too but it's too slow... |
| 22:17.26 | keyfind_us | maybe I can grab the driver it uses for either one, and see if i can install on debian lxde. |
| 22:17.37 | srg | oh yes, maybe it's a driver. Hold on, let me find the wiki page |
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| 22:18.01 | srg | keyfind_us: https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi#Install_Driver |
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| 22:18.54 | srg | keyfind_us: I had to install a driver for my wifi card. It's the firmware-iwlwifi driver for my specific card |
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| 22:19.54 | keyfind_us | thx.. i setup a keyword so i can find it later :) http://keyfind.us/debianwifi |
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| 22:22.08 | TBJoe | Hello, I followed a guide on how to set up a radicale server (for contacts and calendars) but it doesn't work. the service is running but the server seems to reply with "Error 500" when trying to use it as a calendar server. I'm not sure where to start looking and how to fix this |
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| 22:23.04 | keyfind_us | TBJoe: look at app log. |
| 22:23.52 | keyfind_us | TBJoe: if php, then verify page works by running php from command line on the file php <filename> |
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| 22:42.00 | twied | hey there! i've got a laptop with jessie on it that's driving me insane. goes suspend-to-ram every ~20 seconds. sensors say 31°C, so i don't think it's thermal related. dmesg is not helpful, neither is google. anyone got an idea what might be the cause or how to find out who or what is sending this laptop to sleep constantly? |
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| 22:43.22 | veverak | hi folks |
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| 22:43.40 | veverak | got script that didn't actually worked some times |
| 22:43.52 | veverak | and now I noticed in log it got sometimes problems with logging into DB |
| 22:43.55 | veverak | (postgresql) |
| 22:44.08 | veverak | pg.InternalError: could not connect to server: Connection refused |
| 22:44.24 | veverak | that DB is running localy, how should one debug this? |
| 22:44.30 | veverak | got no idea where to look/what to search for |
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| 22:59.33 | DasEi | I got a problem with my scanner. Though all functions are fine when working as root, scanner is unavailable as regular user. oc I added user to scanner group, but still it detects the scanner, but not moving it. Regular user can list/find it though (lsusb, scanimage -L) Any ideas ? |
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| 23:11.30 | acz32 | if i install debian from CD1.iso, can it be as slim an install as if i got the netinstall if i don't select a DE, etc? or should i download netinstall for minimal install |
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| 23:16.44 | themill | Up to the point where your wifi card probably needs firmware that won't be on the installer disk unless. |
| 23:16.47 | themill | !installer firmware |
| 23:16.48 | dpkg | Debian-Installer is able to load additional <firmware>, by including it within installation media or supplying on removable media (e.g. USB stick, floppy). See http://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch06s04 . To include firmware within Debian <netboot> images, see http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/NetbootFirmware . See also <firmware images>. |
| 23:17.13 | aum | hi - across a wide crop of debian servers, what's the simplest way to determine how much free space is available in whatever partition includes /tmp ? |
| 23:18.01 | acz32 | thanks |
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| 23:23.24 | nkuttler | aum: clusterssh is quite simple.. but not really good for may hosts. or a script. i use saltstack |
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| 23:23.58 | nkuttler | aum: many hosts |
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| 23:45.26 | deuterium | hi, i'm in grub rescue console and "insmod normal" doesn't work. what do? |
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| 23:46.22 | minibar | hello, what does this mean? locale: Cannot set LC_ALL to default locale: No such file or directory |
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| 23:47.25 | Brigo | minibar, that you have locale missconfigured |
| 23:47.37 | Brigo | deuterium, why are you in grub console? |
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| 23:48.00 | deuterium | Brigo: after a recent upgrade, doesn't boot anymore |
| 23:48.04 | minibar | Brigo https://dpaste.de/BMjw/raw |
| 23:48.26 | minibar | how do I fix it? |
| 23:48.54 | Brigo | deuterium, what kind of upgrade? |
| 23:48.54 | minibar | I did dpkg-reconfigure locales |
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| 23:49.38 | DasEi | Brigo: is the disk crypted ? |
| 23:49.59 | Brigo | minibar, is this the output of locale command? |
| 23:50.00 | Brigo | DasEi, i am not asking :) |
| 23:50.08 | minibar | Brigo yes |
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| 23:50.37 | Brigo | minibar, do you have the localectl command? |
| 23:50.52 | minibar | no |
| 23:51.16 | acz32 | hi, i'm getting these benign messages when i start my computer. it doesn't seem to affect anything and nothing seems broken. does anyone know why? https://i.imgur.com/aM4OZP8.jpg |
| 23:51.24 | DasEi | ah, minibar, well it is possible to chroot in, so you can reconfigure all, take a look at apt and also have grub checked, then it should boot again |
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| 23:51.59 | minibar | DasEi that was not for me correct? |
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| 23:52.36 | DasEi | Brigo: miniba.. was asking about unbootable system and that was the paste ? |
| 23:52.37 | Marezz | doing a debian netinstall, which video driver I need for virtualbox debian install? |
| 23:52.48 | Marezz | This one maybe? xserver-xorg-video-vmware - X.Org X server -- VMware display driver |
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| 23:53.16 | Brigo | DasEi, no, deuterium was asking about an unbootable system. |
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| 23:53.33 | DasEi | minibar: see above, sry |
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| 23:54.08 | Brigo | minibar, can you paste the output of ' cat /etc/locale.gen |grep -v \#' ? |
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| 23:54.29 | minibar | Brigo empty |
| 23:54.50 | minibar | the file does not ecist |
| 23:54.53 | minibar | the file does not exist |
| 23:54.59 | Brigo | minibar, so you haven't any generated locales. |
| 23:55.10 | minibar | typo |
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| 23:55.35 | deuterium | when i boot from a cdrom, how can i then mount the filesystems on the hard disk as if i booted normally from the hard disk? |
| 23:55.55 | Brigo | deuterium, you have to chroot into it |
| 23:56.02 | minibar | Brigo I did locale-gen en_US en_US.UTF-8 hu_HU hu_HU.UTF-8 |
| 23:56.18 | Brigo | !tell deuterium about chroot |
| 23:56.22 | minibar | but that file doesn't change |
| 23:56.23 | DasEi | deuterium: by chrooting in, is the disk crypted ? |
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| 23:56.59 | Brigo | minibar, try dpkg-reconfigure -plow locale |
| 23:57.06 | DasEi | deuterium: and oc, first hand safemode also doesn't work ? |
| 23:57.19 | deuterium | DasEi: nothing works anymore, not even grub |
| 23:57.28 | deuterium | Brigo: thx |
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| 23:57.33 | minibar | dpkg-query: package 'locale' is not installed and no information is available |
| 23:57.40 | Brigo | deuterium, np. good luck :) |
| 23:58.04 | Brigo | locales, not locale, sorry :) |
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| 23:59.46 | minibar | Brigo still, the file didn't change |
