| 00:01.29 | frustration | Hello, I am trying to load the firmware during the debian-installer and I am just getting prompted over and over again for the firmware without success. Setup: I have downloaded a debian netinstall iso for my architecture from the official debian website. I created the install media on a usb flash drive with the dd command like I do usually with GNU/Linux distributions. On another usb flash drive formatted both as fat16 and fat32 with GPa |
| 00:01.30 | frustration | rted (as per https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch06s04.html.en) I tried on different occasions to used the ".ucode" firmware files on the root directory of the usb flash drive and on a "/firmware" directory (on the secondary flash drive). If I open another tty, there are a few entries in dmesg, which read "iwlwifi 0000:02:00.0: no suitable firmware found" and other lines with similar content. I know that this firmware works, bec |
| 00:01.30 | frustration | ause I have had to install it in the past, but I used to have an ethernet link during install. This time I do not have the resources to download a full Debian iso. |
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| 00:02.07 | dvs | !tell frustration about firmware iso |
| 00:04.23 | frustration | Lastly, I tried loading the firmware files manually, by copying the two ".ucode" files to /lib/firmware on a separate tty and then attempting to have the installer search for the drivers and I was met with success. The wireless networks were found and I was able to input my password, but I just got redirected to the wireless network list without an error message. |
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| 00:05.08 | frustration | dvs, that iso is "unofficial" and I cannot accept this current situation. |
| 00:05.47 | dvs | frustration: suit yourself but it's still made by Debian developers |
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| 00:07.11 | nkuttler | just get a cable then |
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| 00:07.31 | frustration | Well, what about the documentation? Will it just stay wrong? |
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| 00:08.38 | frustration | Now, after loading the firmware manually during the installer, a message shows up in dmesg "ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready". |
| 00:09.20 | nkuttler | frustration: if you think the documentation is wrong, file a bug against it. also compare to the jessie release notes, maybe it's already changed |
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| 00:13.38 | frustration | Now on /var/log/syslog, for every entry that reads "authenticate with <modem_mac_address>" there is an entry "deauthenticating from <modem_mac_address> by local machine (reason=3)". |
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| 00:20.04 | tomivs | Hi all, I want to find the TTF file of "URW Gothic L" |
| 00:20.22 | snarf_ | google |
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| 00:21.27 | Contrl | On Jessie the taskbar seems to have disappeared when I came back from the lock screen. How can I get it back? |
| 00:22.27 | pardelkat | installing debian on a VM |
| 00:22.43 | Contrl | pardelkat: Pardon? |
| 00:22.56 | pardelkat | Contrl: Oh, that wasn't a response to you |
| 00:23.03 | pardelkat | I was just saying I'm trying out debian on a VM |
| 00:23.03 | Contrl | Oh, I was going to say ha ha |
| 00:24.21 | frustration | The content in here (https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=740503) actually makes it work and the installer proceeds to try to exchange the keys with modem/router and is met with success. |
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| 00:26.26 | frustration | The iso file is not the same of course, since the current stable version is 7.8 |
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| 00:51.14 | frustration | I have added my experience to https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=740503 , by clicking reply at the top and sending an email. Does it take a while to update? |
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| 00:53.14 | dondelelcaro | frustration: it'll generally update in under three minutes. |
| 00:53.39 | frustration | There it is. Nothing to worry about. I will try to take a look at the source sometime soon. |
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| 01:13.47 | Contrl | I'm trying to center the clock in Jessie, how would I do this? |
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| 01:16.08 | srg | what clock? `date` ? |
| 01:16.13 | srg | Or in your window manager? |
| 01:16.43 | srg | If it's in your WM, you might get a faster/better answer asking in the proper channel, like #KDE or #Gnome |
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| 01:18.10 | Legendre | what governs module loading at boottime? |
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| 01:18.35 | Legendre | the /etc/modules doesnt seem to be respected.. changes there make no effect |
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| 01:28.22 | Contrl | srg: Whatever is default in Jessie Gnome |
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| 01:58.30 | ripdisk | hey guys i'm trying to get a fresh install of debian booted up...on a desktop....i used the netinstall from a usb drive, and w hen i went to boot for the first time it's saying it can't find the /boot/grub/i386-pc/normal.mod ...and it kind of sucks cos this guy has so many hdds and partitions |
| 02:00.05 | ripdisk | wait, i think i found it! |
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| 02:03.59 | ripdisk | ohhhh |
| 02:04.06 | ripdisk | ok how do i give it a new dir for the normal.mod |
| 02:04.15 | ripdisk | it's just in /grub/ not /grub/i386 |
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| 02:14.30 | GeekDude | I've recently put debian jessie for ppc onto my iMac G3 via netbooting the mini iso. I didn't pick a DE on install, but rather ran `apt-get install xorg fluxbox x11vnc` after installation. I can get the desktop to show up, and x11vnc runs, but I can't actually connect to it over VNC |
| 02:14.49 | GeekDude | All the VNC clients I've tried just get stuck connecting |
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| 02:15.54 | aspect | can anyone tell me how to re-enable ctrl+alt+backspace on Xorg? |
| 02:17.10 | frustration | GeekDude, you want to check what commands are being ran when the vnc guests connect. You can find this file in .vnc/<something>rc |
| 02:17.22 | frustration | But it may vary from package to package. |
| 02:17.52 | GeekDude | First gimme a minute to get the output log from x11vnc |
| 02:18.14 | GeekDude | x11vnc output https://gist.github.com/d37c539790514ec3e247 |
| 02:18.15 | abrotman | dpkg: tell aspect about dontzap |
| 02:18.37 | supersoju | [17~/join #wrestling |
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| 02:19.22 | GeekDude | frustration: the only thing in /home/user/.vnc is the passwd file |
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| 02:19.48 | GeekDude | A user on this forum thread http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1682956.html seems to have solved a similar issue by compiling x11vnc himself instead of using the one in the repository |
| 02:19.59 | aspect | abrotman: thank you. No idea how much that has immediately reduced my cortisol levels :-) |
| 02:20.52 | aspect | .. now I guess I should consider using keyboard-configuration's compose key, if I can figure out how that interacts with my environment |
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| 02:22.47 | frustration | Ah, from the documentation x11vnc seems to be agnostic to Desktop Environments, since I have used a mix of VNC servers packages in the past, I got it confused. |
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| 02:24.39 | frustration | However, Debian is not Ubuntu and you can always check the bug tracker, depending which version of Debian you are running. |
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| 02:42.36 | Pastaf | How do you fix, "Depends: libX (>= *:*.*.*) but (*.*-*) is to be installed"? |
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| 02:43.24 | Pastaf | in my situation, I'm trying to install SimpleScreenRecorder, which is built for Ubuntu Vivid, on Debian Jessie |
| 02:43.53 | Pastaf | "Depends: libpulse0 (>= 1:0.99.1) but 5.0-13 is to be installed" |
| 02:44.30 | themill | "don't do that then" |
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| 02:46.09 | Pastaf | themill: okay then, well what do YOU suggest? |
| 02:46.21 | frustration | Pastaf, what he means is that you should not install Ubuntu packages on Debian. |
| 02:46.22 | themill | build it on the target platform |
| 02:46.37 | frustration | They are not made to be compatible and will break things most of the time. |
| 02:47.20 | Pastaf | there isn't a native debian package however. Do you think it would work if I built it myself? |
| 02:48.40 | themill | it should, unless it's a poor quality or very weird package |
| 02:48.53 | themill | !package recompile |
| 02:48.53 | dpkg | 1) Add a <deb-src> line for your current release to your sources.list 2) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential devscripts fakeroot; aptitude -R build-dep packagename 3) as any user, apt-get source packagename 4) cd packagename-version/; ask me about <debian/rules>; 5) dpkg-buildpackage -uc -us 6) as root, dpkg -i ../packagename-version.deb. Ask me about <debian/rules>, <nocheck>, <nostrip>, <apt-get source>. |
| 02:49.23 | themill | You obviously need to change the first couple of steps since you'll be getting the source package from elsewhere. |
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| 03:01.26 | GeekDude | frustration: wow, I compiled it myself and it does actually work |
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| 03:02.07 | GeekDude | I'll have to poke around in the bug tracker and make an entry if there isn't one |
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| 03:08.58 | frustration | Well, you don't want to go for that straight away... It is probably a good idea to know what changes are there between the original code to the Debian distribution. I finished installing a DE myself and installing x11vnc from the repository and running it as root on unstable(Sid) allowed me to connect. |
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| 03:11.49 | GeekDude | frustration: I already tried running the version from the repo as root and it didn't help any |
| 03:13.00 | GeekDude | I can't say I have any idea to go about troubleshooting this issue, and frankly I'm not sure I want to. What I've got now works |
| 03:13.24 | Pastaf | compiling it worked, thanks |
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| 03:41.12 | ripdisk | is ther a way for me to reinstall grub without reinstalling the entire os |
| 03:41.51 | somiaj | ripdisk: what do you mean by reinstall grub? Reinstall it into the mbr or efi partition? |
| 03:43.20 | dondelelcaro | ripdisk: just grub-install /dev/foodevice |
| 03:43.33 | ripdisk | well i think the problem is it installed to the wrong mbr |
| 03:43.43 | ripdisk | there are multiple hdds/partitions on this system |
| 03:43.58 | ripdisk | and the partition i installed debian to...it used to have ubuntu on it |
| 03:44.08 | dondelelcaro | ripdisk: that's ok, just install it to the right one with grub-install |
| 03:44.11 | ripdisk | so now i can't boot into debian |
| 03:44.18 | ripdisk | how do i use grub-install |
| 03:44.23 | ripdisk | without being able to boot into an os |
| 03:44.32 | dondelelcaro | ripdisk: boot off of the install media in rescue mode, chroot into the debian root, and run grub-install. |
| 03:45.26 | ripdisk | oops |
| 03:45.33 | ripdisk | i put the usb in and it booted into the debian install now |
| 03:45.33 | ripdisk | lol |
| 03:46.08 | somiaj | ripdisk: there are enough tools in the debian install (hit alt-f2 open up a terminal) to mount your debian install and chroot into it. |
| 03:46.15 | dvs | ripdisk: so run grub-install now so you won't need it |
| 03:46.33 | ripdisk | no i mean, it booted into the installed os |
| 03:46.35 | ripdisk | on the hdd |
| 03:47.28 | dvs | ripdisk: so run grub-install now so you won't need it |
| 03:47.48 | ripdisk | command not found |
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| 03:50.47 | g0dfrey | hello, I found a unkown system ssl certificate in kcm_ssl, how could I find out the path of the file? |
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| 03:51.47 | g0dfrey | The certificate has the same name as my hostname. |
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| 03:52.11 | ripdisk | ok i have grub install working but idk how to use it lol |
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| 03:53.40 | polyphagia | hi hikilaka |
| 03:53.43 | hikilaka | hi polyphagia |
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| 03:55.41 | dvs | ripdisk: You have to know what your boot device is and run "grub-install /dev/XXX" where XXX is the boot device. |
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| 04:02.00 | overjoyedpulp | sid users: do you refrain from updating for a little bit after testing is declared stable? |
| 04:03.19 | themill | overjoyedpulp: why? (just after stable is released would be the time to avoid updates) |
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| 04:05.20 | ripdisk | there |
| 04:05.24 | ripdisk | i got it working anyway |
| 04:05.32 | ripdisk | it was supposed to go to /dev/sdc |
| 04:05.40 | ripdisk | it was going to the usb from the netinstall lol |
| 04:07.01 | overjoyedpulp | themill: just curious -- i know people who run testing tend to refrain from updating shortly after a release |
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| 04:07.55 | albert | What are the best linux irc channels? for things like servers, infrastructure, puppett, devops, web ops? |
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| 04:09.21 | kellnola | freenode |
| 04:10.41 | bazhang | <PROTECTED> |
| 04:10.53 | bazhang | use alis to search albert |
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| 04:12.09 | g0dfrey | I found the crt file generated by $(make-ssl-cert generate-default-snakeoil), anyone know the purpose of this crt? |
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| 04:16.53 | kellnola | it's just a default one that's clearly fake, prob to keep people from using ssl improperly |
| 04:17.01 | kellnola | or help, anyway |
| 04:17.30 | kellnola | *some* people let it sit like that for years ... |
| 04:18.52 | g0dfrey | How can I find out which package generated it? |
| 04:19.16 | tErik | albert, you may try these: this/irc.FREENODE.net , irc.OFTC.net, irc.MOZILLA.org |
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| 04:20.27 | themill | overjoyedpulp: after release â during freeze |
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| 04:20.47 | themill | overjoyedpulp: oh sorry, I misread what you had written. |
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| 04:21.44 | themill | overjoyedpulp: Yes, all sorts of stuff gets uploaded immediately after release and it's obviously not been tested together and won't have matured in the same way as packages normally do |
| 04:22.40 | themill | overjoyedpulp: for example, about 2000 packages were updated in the week following wheezy's release http://ircbots.debian.net/stats/ |
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| 04:30.21 | overjoyedpulp | themill: so wait do sid users also tend to wait? |
| 04:31.03 | themill | well, people who are using sid are normally doing so to test things out because their need for new shiny is greater than their aversion to bugs. If you're averse to bugs, then don't run sid... |
| 04:31.45 | themill | It all depends on how risk-averse you are and how much time/skills you have to deal with the problems that will hit you |
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| 04:34.14 | kellnola | g0dfrey, you can grep for it in /var/lib/dpkg/ |
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| 04:36.51 | g0dfrey | OK. thank you kellnola, found all scripts in info subdir |
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| 04:55.57 | bazhang | rtorrent tomivs |
| 04:56.10 | bazhang | ,v rtorrent |
| 04:56.11 | judd | Package: rtorrent on i386 -- squeeze: 0.8.6-1; squeeze-backports: 0.8.9-2~bpo60+1; jessie: 0.9.2-1; wheezy: 0.9.2-1; sid: 0.9.2-1 |
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| 06:40.01 | mms_ | I have 16GB USB and I want to install debian on it so then I can use it with different PC ...just boot into USB and be on debian. do I need to just copy iso image to USB and I am done ? |
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| 06:40.58 | mms_ | I read https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html.en and section 4.3 4.3.1 seems to be enough ? |
| 06:41.26 | mms_ | not clear which exact iso file I should download...netinstall.iso will also do ? |
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| 06:44.30 | mms_ | also to be more general we should use i386 images instead of amd64 even though we have many machines with 64bit cpu |
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| 06:50.05 | mms_ | I have downloaded now stable debian-7.8.0-i386-netinst.iso 277MB |
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| 06:50.35 | mms_ | I will just copy sync to usb and boot using it hoping it will let me do install like I do to hdd |
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| 06:56.08 | mms_ | ?? |
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| 06:58.20 | SirLagz | mms_: what you need to do is install Debian onto the USB stick as if the USB stick was a hard drive |
| 06:58.47 | mms_ | ok...so I downloaded the ISO and should I copy it to USB using cp command ? |
| 06:58.52 | mms_ | then just boot from USB ? |
| 06:58.55 | SirLagz | mms_: not quite |
| 06:58.59 | mms_ | then ? |
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| 06:59.03 | darxmurf | hi all |
| 06:59.06 | SirLagz | you're going to need a separate install media to the USB stick you want to boot Debian off |
| 06:59.18 | SirLagz | so CD or another USB stick |
| 06:59.42 | Neytiri | i am having a big issue with updating and i have no idea how to fix it, console output after apt-get upgrade http://pastebin.com/8gcGgKth |
| 06:59.49 | mms_ | well I have only one USB so from linux netbook how do I set it up ? |
| 07:00.53 | SirLagz | mms_: why do you want to boot Debian off the USB stick ? Is this just going to be a portable debian install ? |
| 07:01.34 | mms_ | SirLagz: yes ...I have to move to different locations and instead of netbook I rather carry USB |
| 07:01.53 | themill | !live |
| 07:01.53 | SirLagz | mms_: I see. |
| 07:01.53 | dpkg | The Debian Live project provides pre-built Debian live system images and allows creation of your own. These can be used to install a Debian system. Live images are available from http://www.debian.org/CD/live/ . http://live.debian.net/ #debian-live on irc.debian.org. |
| 07:02.21 | mms_ | ok so I can dump that to usb and then install using USB ? |
| 07:02.45 | themill | Neytiri: what happened to "insserv"? Is that package installed? Is there an /sbin/insserv? |
| 07:02.49 | mms_ | I already having my netbook runing debian |
| 07:03.16 | mms_ | so I will download live image and dump to USB and then reboot using USB and it should do it ? |
| 07:03.17 | SirLagz | mms_: personally, I'd keep the netbook...But if you install a live distro onto the USB stick, then you can boot the USB stick and it'll be usable |
| 07:03.26 | SirLagz | mms_: yes |
| 07:03.34 | Neytiri | themill, no its not |
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| 07:04.16 | mms_ | SirLagz: I am confused...I download live image and copy to USB. then when I boot into USB do I then install debian full on to usb instead of live ? |
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| 07:04.35 | mms_ | SirLagz: then my usb will become just full debian and not just live ? |
| 07:04.53 | themill | Neytiri: that's an impressive effort... how did you manage that? (insserv is part of a pseudo-essential set in wheezy) |
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| 07:05.41 | Neytiri | dont ask me cause i have no idea |
| 07:05.42 | SirLagz | mms_: no. when you burn the ISO onto the USB stick, it will become a live install, so you can boot and use it |
| 07:05.54 | SirLagz | mms_: do you know how a live distro works ? |
| 07:06.07 | mms_ | SirLagz: yes thats why I asked... |
| 07:06.15 | mms_ | SirLagz: its not persistent |
| 07:06.31 | mms_ | SirLagz: I want persistent full linux like on HDD |
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| 07:06.54 | mms_ | I thought section 4.3 and 4.3.1 I referred above would do that |
| 07:07.02 | SirLagz | mms_: you'll likely be able to setup a persistence partition using the live distro |
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| 07:07.30 | themill | Neytiri: is there another admin for this system who you can ask? A machine admin's log? |
| 07:07.39 | mms_ | so instead of live I had downloaded the netinst.iso |
| 07:07.45 | mms_ | why cannot I use that to install to USB ? |
| 07:07.55 | Neytiri | nope its jsut me |
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| 07:08.44 | mms_ | SirLagz: I hope I clarified well |
| 07:08.54 | themill | Neytiri: so you'd have had to work hard to remove insserv. |
| 07:09.15 | SirLagz | mms_: yes...you could run a VM on your netbook to run the install to install it to the USB stick... |
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| 07:09.41 | SirLagz | mms_: or with debian live - http://live.debian.net/manual/1.x/html/persistence.html |
| 07:09.56 | themill | Neytiri: can you pastebin the output of "apt-cache policy sysvinit sysv-rc file-rc insserv upstart systemd; apt-cache policy" for me? |
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| 07:11.21 | Neytiri | http://pastebin.com/LRpych0P |
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| 07:12.00 | themill | Neytiri: installing packages from ubuntu? where could that go wrong... |
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| 07:12.16 | SirLagz | themill: another frankendebian instance heh |
| 07:12.35 | themill | Neytiri: what's the output of: aptitude search '?narrow(?not(?archive("^[^n][^o].*$")),?version(CURRENT))' |
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| 07:13.36 | Neytiri | http://pastebin.com/aPjiLWtN |
| 07:14.33 | mms_ | ok live cd also looks good |
| 07:14.50 | themill | Neytiri: is it a long time since you've upgraded things? What does "apt-cache policy libc6 less dash" say? |
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| 07:15.35 | Neytiri | its been broken a while |
| 07:15.39 | themill | and where did libc6-x32 come from? |
| 07:15.44 | Neytiri | i havnt had time to fix it |
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| 07:16.29 | Neytiri | http://pastebin.com/1yTzs4L7 |
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| 07:17.03 | themill | Neytiri: the way of fixing this is really quite simple: decide whether you're going to run debian or ubuntu and then reinstall that distribution. |
| 07:17.20 | Neytiri | ya i was hoping to avoid reinstalling |
| 07:17.22 | mrwbp | Does anybody know how can I install ffmpeg on debian. |
| 07:17.28 | Neytiri | its a production mail/webserver |
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| 07:17.34 | mrwbp | I need the last version of ffmpeg 2.5 |
| 07:17.45 | themill | Neytiri: yeah well you don't do those things to a production machine either |
| 07:17.46 | polyphagia | mrwbp: it's not really recommended but deb-multimedia provides it |
| 07:18.04 | polyphagia | since it's a third party repo do so at your own risk |
| 07:18.12 | themill | mrwbp: libav-tools is in debian. |
| 07:18.13 | Neytiri | i still dont know how it happined |
| 07:18.27 | themill | Neytiri: well you've added ubuntu things to your sources.list, upgraded and then removed them |
| 07:18.57 | mrwbp | I included de debian-multimedia and backports but still giving me the old version |
| 07:19.00 | Neytiri | i havnt edited it since i installed it |
| 07:19.01 | Neytiri | http://pastebin.com/aBuu9jsT |
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| 07:19.06 | polyphagia | did you apt-get update mrwbp |
| 07:19.14 | mrwbp | yes |
| 07:19.31 | mrwbp | I did it apt-get update |
| 07:19.41 | themill | I wouldn't recommend going anywhere near the crap from deb-multimedia. |
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| 07:20.08 | themill | Neytiri: well virtualmin sure wasn't in your sources.list when it was installed. |
| 07:20.20 | mrwbp | ok so what do you recommend me in order to install ffmpeg 2.5? |
| 07:20.38 | Neytiri | no it wasnt, but that was the only entry i added |
| 07:20.51 | themill | Neytiri: the packages you have installed suggest otherwise |
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| 07:21.51 | Neytiri | i think i just fixed it |
| 07:22.45 | themill | Neytiri: you can reinstall debian's insserv package and that will let you finish that upgrade. It does not actually fix the machine. |
| 07:23.23 | themill | Neytiri: I wouldn't mind betting that you're vulnerable to a pile of different things right now because you've got packages that won't receive security upgrades |
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| 07:23.43 | mrwbp | I have ffmpeg 2.4 running in my freebsd, When I try to send a rtmp signal from debian (ffmpeg 0.8), the ffmepg in freebsd cannot process that signal, it says somethind related to the headers |
| 07:24.20 | mrwbp | but it is working in freebsd because When I send the signal from Open broadcaster, it works perfect |
| 07:24.38 | Neytiri | is there a way of iscolating those packages and installign the devian version |
| 07:24.44 | mrwbp | so I think, it is the version of the ffmpeg in debian is too old |
| 07:24.50 | mms_ | SirLagz: live usb seems bit complex...I think full install would be better option |
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| 07:26.31 | mms_ | SirLagz: cannot I just parition my USB to hold netinst.iso and to another usb partition install full system ? |
| 07:26.42 | themill | Neytiri: everything in that big long list from the aptitude command you ran earlier. I don't know that I'd ever trust that box though... the packages are never designed for downgrades and certainly not across distributions |
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| 07:28.10 | themill | Neytiri: add -F%p --disable-columns to that command to just get a list of packages. |
| 07:28.48 | Neytiri | to this command? apt-cache policy sysvinit sysv-rc file-rc insserv upstart systemd; apt-cache policy or the other one |
| 07:29.37 | themill | aptitude |
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| 08:23.30 | SirLagz | mms_: you can give that a shot...I don't know how the installer would handle that |
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| 08:31.09 | mado | hi guys, can someone build me a package from backports? i unfortunately dont have access to a large enough debian machine right now. |
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| 08:36.50 | aborrero | mado which package? |
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| 08:43.08 | mado | aborrero: firehol |
| 08:43.12 | mado | for wheezy |
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| 08:43.30 | mado | in sid theres v2.something available, in wheezy only 1.2 |
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| 08:44.59 | aborrero | only the version in testing can be backported |
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| 08:46.44 | mado | aborrero: huh? why that? i built it yesterday on my homecomputer |
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| 08:47.48 | aborrero | mado: please read http://backports.debian.org/ |
| 08:48.30 | mado | oh |
| 08:48.37 | mado | testing = jessie i assume? |
| 08:48.51 | aborrero | yes |
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| 08:50.27 | mado | uhm |
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| 08:50.54 | mado | that would explain why it failed so horribly with ipv6 :p (ipv6 is supported from firehol 2 and upwards) |
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| 08:52.04 | mado | so it would be better to install firehol by hand? |
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| 08:53.07 | Iridos | huh? why should you only be able to backport testing? |
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| 08:56.38 | jelly | mado: firehol and fireqos seem to be Architecture: all package, in that case there's probably not much to backport |
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| 08:57.30 | jelly | mado: you just _might_ be able to download .deb for sid from packages.debian.org and install using dpkg |
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| 09:01.31 | jelly | mado: you'll still need wheezy-backports for iproute2 |
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| 09:04.35 | mado | jelly: thanks, ill give it a try :) |
| 09:05.01 | jelly | mado: so basically wget -nd http://http.debian.net/debian/pool/main/f/firehol/fire{hol,qos}_2.0.1+ds-1_all.deb && dpkg -i fire*_2.0.1+ds-1_all.deb; apt-get -t wheezy-backports -f install |
| 09:05.22 | mado | yup :) thanks! |
| 09:05.47 | mado | first ill make a backup of my machine - already killed it off yesterday because of trying firehol -.- |
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| 09:44.05 | mms_ | SirLagz: how do I now use vbox to install to usb ? |
| 09:44.27 | mms_ | I am at screen where for Hard drive in new wizard flow |
| 09:45.21 | elfranne | I am trying to create a lvm snapshot in a bash script (called from a crontab entry) but lvcreate fails (command not found) but using the same command in the terminal works fine |
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| 09:47.00 | mms_ | SirLagz: ??? |
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| 09:47.28 | daimon | hi everyone! |
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| 09:47.56 | polyphagia | hi daimon |
| 09:48.00 | daimon | I'm trying to configure my server,can anyone hook me up? |
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| 09:48.14 | daimon | hi poly |
| 09:48.55 | suggestor | daimon: server for what? |
| 09:49.06 | suggestor | homeserver? |
| 09:49.13 | daimon | the matter is that /sbin/chkconfig seems missing and I cannot configure the services |
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| 09:49.45 | daimon | @suggestor webserver |
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| 09:51.02 | daimon | guys? |
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| 09:53.00 | suggestor | daimon: when u ask a question be more precise like: what webserver, what have u tried and what isn't working... |
| 09:53.25 | fraff | elfranne: check your PATH, cron use a minimal environment |
| 09:53.44 | daimon | I tried fraff, nothing over there |
| 09:53.46 | jelly | daimon: chkconfig is optional and comes in its own eponymous package |
| 09:54.20 | daimon | uhm...so how can I manange network services? |
| 09:54.21 | jelly | daimon: verify that the chkconfig package is installed |
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| 09:54.33 | mms_ | SirLagz: did you mean to install vbox to usb ? |
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| 09:54.46 | daimon | @jelly how? |
| 09:54.49 | daimon | grep? |
| 09:54.58 | mms_ | SirLagz: I thought I would install debian to usb and not install vbox to it |
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| 09:55.21 | jelly | daimon: "dpkg -l chkconfig" is one simple way |
| 09:55.31 | daimon | ty jelly |
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| 09:56.12 | jelly | daimon: if the second character in that last line of the output isn't "i", the package is not installed (properly) |
| 09:56.58 | daimon | I'm reading un |
| 09:57.15 | daimon | "un" |
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| 09:57.54 | daimon | how can I install it? |
| 09:58.26 | jelly | daimon: is this your first time using Debian? |
| 09:58.41 | daimon | you caught me |
| 09:59.35 | jelly | daimon: perhaps you'd want to read chapters 5 and 6 of the debian-handbook. http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/apt.html |
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| 10:00.04 | jelly | daimon: as root, you can run "aptitude install packagename" or "apt-get install packagename" |
| 10:00.37 | daimon | what is better between aptitude and apt-get? Which is the best repo? |
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| 10:02.10 | mado | jelly: thanks, worked :D |
| 10:02.17 | mado | (the firehol stuff) |
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| 10:03.02 | daimon | did it :) tnx jelly!! |
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| 10:03.38 | jelly | daimon: not much difference in this case, they use slightly different algorithms for dependency resolution with "install" command. Just be aware both exist. |
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| 10:04.23 | daimon | I'll do |
| 10:05.12 | jelly | daimon: instead of chkconfig port, debian has "update-rc.d" by default. Also many users pick "rcconf" to manage services startup. |
| 10:05.57 | jelly | !rcconf |
| 10:05.57 | dpkg | rcconf is a simple curses-based text user interface (TUI) frontend to <update-rc.d>, used to adjust the default <runlevel> configuration. See also <sysv-rc-conf>, <sysv-rc>. |
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| 10:06.21 | daimon | the fact is that I'm following a tutorial maybe a little bit old |
| 10:06.52 | jelly | and maybe a bit redhat-centric (that's where chkconfig comes from) |
| 10:06.52 | daimon | is about firewalling linux servers etc. |
| 10:07.04 | jelly | !tutorials |
| 10:07.04 | dpkg | A very common problem is that some people prefer to follow a step-by-step tutorial that shows them how to setup their system without reading the documentation or understanding what they are doing. If something goes wrong, they have no clue whatsoever about where to look for hints, and they sometimes decide to start from scratch using a different tutorial. This is not The Proper Way. |
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| 10:08.28 | daimon | dpkg,maybe, maybe some people are simply confident with other users that want to synthetize their experience in step-by-step guides |
| 10:08.28 | dpkg | daimon: I think you lost me on that one |
| 10:08.45 | babilen | (dpkg is a bot) |
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| 10:08.55 | daimon | wow |
| 10:09.10 | daimon | very well done |
| 10:09.20 | babilen | dpkg: tell daimon -about dpkgbot |
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| 10:10.38 | daimon | I'm really impressed and feeling dumb -.- |
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| 10:12.43 | daimon | anyway, how I start rcconf? |
| 10:13.09 | jelly | install it, run it (as root) |
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| 10:14.52 | daimon | Isn't the package sys-rc-conf? |
| 10:15.37 | jelly | ,v rcconf |
| 10:15.39 | judd | Package: rcconf on i386 -- squeeze: 2.5; wheezy: 2.5; jessie: 3.1; sid: 3.1 |
| 10:15.44 | jelly | doesn't seem to be |
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| 10:17.33 | daimon | it seems doing the same thing with less dependencies |
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| 10:22.07 | elfranne | fraff, thx that was the issue |
| 10:22.25 | mms_ | SirLagz: |
| 10:22.27 | mms_ | ?? |
| 10:22.48 | mms_ | i have loaded and started vbox with netinst but my usb is not shown in list though I have added usb filter |
| 10:22.54 | fraff | elfranne: you're wellcome |
| 10:22.58 | Shadur | Doing a dist-upgrade from fresh install wheezy -> jessie. For some reason, the process is hanging during the configure phase; according to ps axuf it's invoking systemd-ask-password-agent. Relevant excerpt from ps axuf: http://pastebin.com/7cWKdtVN |
| 10:23.00 | mms_ | I see only sda in list |
| 10:23.05 | mms_ | while my usb is sdc |
| 10:23.15 | Shadur | mms_: What does dmesg say? |
| 10:23.32 | mms_ | let me check |
| 10:23.42 | daimon | I solved, tnx to you all guys |
| 10:23.53 | daimon | have a nice day |
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| 10:24.22 | mms_ | Shadur: it says sdb |
| 10:24.25 | mms_ | sdb1 |
| 10:24.32 | mms_ | but the vbox does not show it |
| 10:24.45 | Gentoochild | good morning, gurus. Is it possible to pack several projects into a single deb with checkinstall? |
| 10:24.55 | mms_ | I mean not just vbox but also the debian installer shows only scsi sda |
| 10:24.58 | Gentoochild | I want to package a program together with its dependencies |
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| 10:27.05 | mms_ | Shadur: got it ? |
| 10:27.25 | mms_ | Shadur: it shows sdb1 but in installer its not listed in select disk to parition |
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| 10:30.03 | Shadur | NemeSis_: Ask lenovo. They seem to think it was a good idea. (Hint: It isn't) |
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| 10:51.01 | imdea | Hi, one question I have a Debian Wheezy server and would want to put some directory structure in the $HOME of each new user created. Normally for this I put the directories under /etc/skel however I need that certain directories to _not_ be owned by the user itself but a different user. How could I achieve this? |
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| 10:51.52 | Shadur | You may need to customize an adduser script. |
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| 10:52.19 | imdea | Shadur: do you mean a custom adduser? |
| 10:52.23 | imdea | :-/ |
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| 10:53.45 | jelly | imdea: no. Read about adduser.local in adduser manual. |
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| 10:54.29 | imdea | ok thanks |
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| 11:00.59 | imdea | jelly: does the file need to be a perl script? |
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| 11:02.16 | jelly | imdea: no |
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| 11:03.32 | jelly | imdea: is there a mention anywhere in the manual for your distro that says something like that? Which debian release are you using? |
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| 11:03.45 | imdea | jelly: Wheezy |
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| 11:04.42 | jelly | no mention of perl in adduser(8) in wheezy |
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| 11:21.35 | CtrlC | Hi guys, does debootstrap install a kernel too? |
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| 11:26.02 | fraff | CtrlC: I don't think so, but you can chroot and install one |
| 11:26.17 | CtrlC | fraff: Thanks. |
| 11:26.38 | fraff | CtrlC: you can even use --include pkgName |
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| 11:30.30 | eg0x | hey folks. i`m running a debian 7.8 box with php 5.4.36-0+deb7u3 - current version in 5.4 branch is 5.4.38 - running a apt-get update && apt-get upgrade doesn`t install the current version. 5.4.38 was released on 18.2.15 - will i have to wait a few more days until i get that package or is something wrong with my systems config? |
| 11:30.37 | eg0x | thanks for your help in advance! |
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| 11:36.51 | fraff | eg0x: wheezy is frozen, you will only get security update |
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| 11:37.57 | fraff | eg0x: oops, wheezy is _stable_ not frozen |
| 11:38.06 | CtrlC | No it's not. |
| 11:38.34 | CtrlC | Oh! He corrected it.:) |
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| 11:40.55 | eg0x | so theres nothing wrong and i should be patient until i can get php 5.4.38 via apt-get? theres a security issue in versions below 5.4.38 which i want to get fixed. |
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| 11:42.50 | fraff | dpkg: tell eg0x about stable |
| 11:43.10 | foobark | does security DSA3169 eglibc affect running binary packages? |
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| 11:46.12 | eg0x | fraff: thanks :) |
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| 12:26.19 | davidcsi | hello, just installed build-essentinals in debian, but i noticed the includes for c++ are in /usr/include/c++/4.7... why is that? everything fails now... i.e. main.c:2:20: fatal error iostream: No such file or directory ... and even if i include it with -I, headers are called from headers and it won't find anything... ...anyone knows how to fix |
| 12:26.19 | davidcsi | this? |
| 12:26.26 | davidcsi | debian 7 |
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| 12:43.33 | bipul | Hello, I am trying to install Mysql-server via noninteractive mode. But my problem is i have to generate a password for mysql root password and assign it to each account via shell script. |
| 12:44.08 | bazhang | what version of debian bipul |
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| 12:44.16 | bipul | huh? |
| 12:44.30 | polyphagia | sudo debconf-set-selections <<< 'mysql-server mysql-server/root_password password your_password' |
| 12:44.31 | polyphagia | sudo debconf-set-selections <<< 'mysql-server mysql-server/root_password_again password your_password' |
| 12:44.34 | bipul | I belongs to the debian family. |
| 12:44.40 | bazhang | #debian <--- what version bipul |
| 12:45.02 | polyphagia | alternatively you can run export DEBIAN_FRONTEND=noninteractive |
| 12:45.03 | bipul | i know but i have to set password which is assign by the user. |
| 12:45.03 | polyphagia | lol |
| 12:45.12 | polyphagia | but then mysql root pw is blank |
| 12:45.16 | polyphagia | so the first solution is better |
| 12:45.23 | polyphagia | yeah bipul you run those before you run apt-get install -y |
| 12:45.29 | bipul | polyphagia: Yes, that's why i am asking. is there anyway |
| 12:45.34 | polyphagia | that's how... |
| 12:45.44 | bipul | I am writing a shell script. |
| 12:45.48 | polyphagia | mysql only sets up the root account on install |
| 12:45.57 | polyphagia | to setup other accounts you can do so how you would normally |
| 12:46.07 | themill | bipul: if you're running ubuntu, please ask #ubuntu. The packages are not the same and we can't know how they differ. |
| 12:46.38 | bipul | Yes. I am using Ubuntu. |
| 12:48.00 | bipul | Like my objective is too write a shell script that will install Mysql-server. And the password which is going to be assigned must be generated or either assigned by the user. |
| 12:48.36 | polyphagia | i'm not sure what else you want |
| 12:48.49 | polyphagia | those commands will set the root password of mysql before it's installed so it won't prompt you |
| 12:49.44 | stealthii | I've a debian wheezy system that has multiple interfaces that uses DHCP to get network information and lease. eth0 is my main one, eth1 is to connect to some services/nodes on a limited VLAN. |
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| 12:50.11 | bipul | polyphagia: But here sudo debconf-set-selections <<< 'mysql-server mysql-server/root_password password your_password' you are forcing me to set password. I want the password must assign by the user while installation. |
| 12:50.30 | polyphagia | well that's what the interactive mode does lol |
| 12:50.34 | stealthii | /etc/resolv.conf always gets populated with settings from eth1. I want eth0 to be the main interface, and name resolving should happen using the settings provided by this interface. |
| 12:50.47 | bazhang | bipul, is that even a debian system |
| 12:50.49 | polyphagia | if you don't have those commands then the installer already asks you for the root password |
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| 12:51.23 | polyphagia | if you want to make your own prompt you can use `read` |
| 12:51.26 | bipul | sudo debconf-set-selections <<< 'mysql-server mysql-server/root_password password $your_password' <-- I can't reset in this way |
| 12:51.41 | polyphagia | why not? |
| 12:52.06 | bipul | It's not working, yes i mean to say i want to make my own prompt. |
| 12:52.28 | polyphagia | you need to use double quotes |
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| 12:53.17 | bipul | You mean in this way "sudo debconf-set-selections <<< "mysql-server mysql-server/root_password password $your_password" |
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| 12:53.38 | polyphagia | yeah and to do the prompt you can use $ read password |
| 12:54.00 | polyphagia | putting it into $password |
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| 12:54.26 | polyphagia | the -s flag can be used to hide output |
| 12:54.30 | bipul | polyphagia: Thank you very much. I hope it will work. |
| 12:54.35 | SynrGy | doesn't that expose the password (via ps auxwww, for instance)? |
| 12:54.40 | polyphagia | so you can do $ read -s password |
| 12:56.07 | SynrGy | why are we answering ubuntu questions here? i just caught up with the backlog |
| 12:56.48 | fraff | stealthii: I'm pretty sure you can solve your probleme by overwriting make_resolv_conf in /etc/dhcp/dhclient-enter-hooks.d but I have no more details |
| 12:57.13 | SynrGy | polyphagia: nice that you wanted to help but it obscured the actual debian support question being asked. if you want to help someone OT, take it to another channel or in priv msg please. |
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| 12:58.11 | talin | hello. is it still possible to use debian 6? |
| 12:58.11 | polyphagia | o sorry didn't see that he was on ubuntu |
| 12:58.17 | SynrGy | polyphagia: np |
| 12:58.23 | talin | is the package system still working on there? |
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| 12:59.02 | SynrGy | talin: while it is EOL, there is an LTS project now that on their best effort tries to keep it working |
| 12:59.17 | talin | SynrGy: ah, so i will struggle trying to use that then |
| 12:59.18 | SynrGy | !lts |
| 12:59.18 | dpkg | Volunteer-provided security support for Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" will continue until 2016-02-06 for a limited set of packages for i386 and amd64. An appropriate line for your sources.list is «deb http://http.debian.net/debian/ squeeze-lts main». See also the «check-support-status» command from the debian-security-support package and https://wiki.debian.org/LTS for more information. #debian-lts on irc.oftc.net. |
| 12:59.30 | talin | is it difficult to upgrade from 6.0 to 7.0? |
| 12:59.43 | SynrGy | not particularly. see the 7.0 release notes |
| 13:00.08 | bipul | Debian is awsome. |
| 13:00.16 | SynrGy | if you have a VPS that sticks you with an older host kernel, it might cause issues |
| 13:00.17 | babilen | dpkg: tell talin -about wheezy release notes |
| 13:00.25 | SynrGy | depends on the virtualization technology used |
| 13:00.40 | SynrGy | that's the only case where i've seen issues |
| 13:00.44 | bipul | is going to shit on debian very soon |
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| 13:00.56 | polyphagia | o |
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| 13:01.47 | polyphagia | i kinda thought that was a typo but i'm not sure what he could've meant lol |
| 13:02.02 | babilen | bipul: Please try to refrain from making plans like that publicly known in this and other Debian channels in the future. Ta. |
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| 13:05.05 | mehale | hello folks |
| 13:05.20 | mehale | how can I kill process cifsd. kill, kill -9 do not work. |
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| 13:09.21 | Iridos | mehale, does this show your process: ps aux |grep ' D' |
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| 13:10.02 | mehale | Iridos: no |
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| 13:11.00 | floris497 | hey, is there a package that has a 6x4 console font? or any place i can find it? |
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| 13:12.26 | DevAntoine | hi |
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| 13:13.18 | mehale | root 1970 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Jan07 0:01 [cifsiod] ////// root 198340 0.0 0.0 0 0 ? S Jan13 1:47 [cifsd] |
| 13:13.23 | DevAntoine | apache2 was down on my server, I had to restart it, but I'd like to know why, and its logs show nothing. What logs can I check? |
| 13:13.27 | mehale | Iridos: I have those above |
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| 13:14.26 | Iridos | mehale, that looks like kernel threads |
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| 13:15.02 | darxmurf | well well well... NetApp support resolution abount mount problems of CIFS shares under debian... |
| 13:15.08 | darxmurf | <PROTECTED> |
| 13:15.17 | darxmurf | thanks for resolution folks .... |
| 13:15.20 | mehale | Iridos: Actually, the problem is that I have an error looping on my messages logfile: "Status code returned 0xc000006d NT_STATUS_LOGON_FAILURE" |
| 13:15.43 | mehale | I umounted all cifs mounts, and it keeps rolling. So I tought about killing this cifsd process |
| 13:16.09 | RDash | I am trying to import a .ovpn file into cinnamon network settings (VPN Stuff) but it simply does closes the network manager... |
| 13:16.16 | Iridos | did you try removing the kernel module? |
| 13:16.20 | cnodell | mehale: Not an expert here but I remember reading something about not being able to kill cifsd until all filesystems using it are unmounted... Not sure if I remember this right though or why it might be so... |
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| 13:16.36 | cnodell | Nevermind! You already covered this! |
| 13:16.51 | mehale | cnodell: this makes sense... but I wonder how can I kill what is lingering around :( |
| 13:17.46 | Iridos | mehale, well, reboot, obviously... |
| 13:18.02 | mehale | thats tempting... |
| 13:19.16 | Iridos | for some disk-io related stuff it seems to be the only way |
| 13:19.28 | cnodell | I was thinking the same thing but I just hate giving such advise. It reminds me too much of my days with windows a decade ago! |
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| 13:21.59 | Iridos | mehale, well, obviously if it can get a permission denied, it's still trying to log on |
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| 13:23.06 | Iridos | still... it's in some weird state... forcibly removing stuff might end up in a different weird state so reboot is probably cleanest |
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| 13:31.43 | mehale | Iridos: I am just afraid that it might and will happen again... |
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| 13:32.52 | SynrGy | mehale: you have no clue how it got into that state? |
| 13:33.47 | SynrGy | recently i had a spate of lockouts apparently caused by the kerberos TGT expiring while the pam-mounted CIFS volume i was working on had some filehandles open on it |
| 13:34.06 | mehale | SynrGy: not much... it seems like it has auth problems. |
| 13:34.19 | mehale | I am using an auth file to store the cifs mount password |
| 13:34.25 | SynrGy | apparently the defaults are that no renewals are allowed and the default expiry period is 10 hours |
| 13:34.45 | SynrGy | k. well, that should work around this particular issue. |
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| 13:38.30 | dagerik | why does the package ffprobe not exist in debian |
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| 13:38.57 | polyphagia | i think it's part of the ffmpeg package dagerik |
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| 13:39.24 | dagerik | thanks |
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| 13:58.33 | sine0 | when apt-get pulls in stuff what port does it use? im thinking about the library and its firewall |
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| 13:59.30 | mehale | SynrGy: It worked for a couple of months, it just crashed today |
| 13:59.57 | Walex2 | sine0: the HTTP or FTP ports usually, depending on how you configured your sources. |
| 14:00.19 | foobark | https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/1999/08/msg00296.html |
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| 14:02.07 | TomyWork | was the 127.0.1.1 /etc/hosts entry added with wheezy or was it present in squeeze already? |
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| 14:02.58 | darxmurf | 127.0.0.1 localhost |
| 14:02.59 | darxmurf | yes |
| 14:03.31 | darxmurf | oh sorry squeeze |
| 14:03.32 | darxmurf | not sure |
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| 14:03.54 | mehale | sorry, had to reboot |
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| 14:33.27 | GeekDude | Is it possible to start X on the remote display using SSH? |
| 14:33.35 | GeekDude | A normal StartX tells me I'm not authorized |
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| 14:37.14 | fraff | GeekDude: do you mean you want to start an X application on a X server you are connected via ssh ? |
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| 14:37.45 | GeekDude | No, I mean I have a computer sitting across the room from me that was just turned on, and it's at the console log in screen. I want to bring the desktop up on it without getting up |
| 14:38.38 | fraff | GeekDude: ha, (lazy:)), I don't know then, I would use autologin, gdm and slim manage that for exemple |
| 14:38.54 | DevAntoine | apache2 was down on my server, I had to restart it, but I'd like to know why, and its logs show nothing. What logs can I check? |
| 14:39.08 | GeekDude | I guess having it log in automatically would be acceptable |
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| 14:41.45 | GeekDude | slim sounds like what I'm looking for |
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| 14:42.12 | GeekDude | or at least, acceptably close while remaining simplistic |
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| 14:43.40 | fraff | GeekDude: you can configure slim/gdm to autologin and start/stop it via ssh |
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| 14:46.52 | fraff | GeekDude: also have a look at /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config |
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| 14:47.22 | GeekDude | slim appears to have worked. It just logged me automatically in after rebooting |
| 14:48.26 | GeekDude | Now I can just ssh in and start x11vnc whenever I want :) |
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| 14:48.43 | GeekDude | thanks, fraff |
| 14:48.52 | fraff | you re wellcome |
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| 14:49.09 | koolfy | hello, I'm having issues with the unattended-upgrades script |
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| 14:49.32 | koolfy | it's blacklisting everything in the list because it doesn't recognize packages as "trusted" |
| 14:49.42 | koolfy | however, it fetches them from the security repository and prints : |
| 14:50.31 | koolfy | Checking: libc6 (["<Origin component:'main' archive:'stable' origin:'Debian' label:'Debian-Security' site:'security.debian.org' isTrusted:True>"]) |
| 14:50.42 | koolfy | emphasis on isTrusted: True |
| 14:50.44 | koolfy | but then: |
| 14:51.01 | babilen | hands koolfy one http://paste.debian.net |
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| 14:51.29 | koolfy | it's only one line... |
| 14:51.35 | babilen | Ah, go on then |
| 14:52.00 | koolfy | http://paste.debian.net/155737/ |
| 14:52.09 | koolfy | then later it says this ^ |
| 14:52.14 | xfire | hi debian, i'm looking information about Enlightenment... In the download section on official site, the latest version is 0.19.3, but in debian testing is 0.17.6... can you help me? |
| 14:52.16 | xfire | https://enlightenment.org/p.php?p=download&l=en |
| 14:52.22 | xfire | https://packages.qa.debian.org/e/e17.html |
| 14:52.34 | petn-randall | xfire: That is correct. What is your question? |
| 14:52.38 | koolfy | this happens for every single package, and I have no idea why it sets every single package to is_trusted : 0 |
| 14:52.51 | koolfy | it's very frustrating |
| 14:53.02 | xfire | is there any plan for debian to upgrade to 0.19.3? |
| 14:53.49 | xfire | i'm interested to use e19 :) |
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| 14:54.29 | koolfy | I'm not even sure how this is_trusted value is set |
| 14:54.30 | petn-randall | xfire: Probably the maintainer will update it at some point. It won't reach testing anymore, though, since it is frozen and will only get updates if RC bugs get fixed. |
| 14:54.45 | petn-randall | koolfy: If you run 'apt-get update', do you get any errors? |
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| 14:54.49 | koolfy | and how it differs frow isTrusted |
| 14:54.51 | koolfy | I'll check |
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| 14:55.14 | babilen | xfire: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=775369 looks as if you are not the only one. No reply from the maintainer though, but you could send another mail. |
| 14:55.15 | koolfy | petn-randall: no errors |
| 14:55.40 | SynrGy | mehale: it's possible to lock yourself out by repeated failed password attempts elsewhere using the same account as the creds in the auth file, though. if you trigger a lockout, an admin may need to intervene to allow the mount using the creds in the auth file to work again. |
| 14:55.55 | SynrGy | mehale: that could explain the logon failures you were seeing in the log |
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| 14:56.06 | xfire | thanks :) |
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| 15:04.14 | koolfy | at least from what IÂ understand, when unattended_upgrades says a package has isTrusted: True, there is no reason why it should then see the exact same packages as is_trusted: 0 |
| 15:04.25 | koolfy | what am I missing ? :( |
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| 15:18.16 | Che-Anarc | Does "make" by default run concurrent process? the -j option? - or must I specify it? |
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| 15:18.40 | babilen | yes |
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| 15:19.04 | babilen | Che-Anarc: You want to explicitly set "-j" .. A nice way to do that is "-j $(nproc)" |
| 15:19.36 | Che-Anarc | babilen, so must I specify it or does it multiple process by default? |
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| 15:20.13 | babilen | You have to specify it |
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| 15:20.41 | emorris | Hi, does anyone know where NetworkManager logs to? |
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| 15:21.05 | babilen | emorris: daemon.log or syslog IIRC |
| 15:21.19 | babilen | emorris: Which version of Debian do you use? |
| 15:21.44 | babilen | Che-Anarc: As suggested: Use "-j $(nproc)" and don't worry about it ever again. |
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| 15:24.12 | Che-Anarc | babilen, thanks very much |
| 15:24.45 | emorris | babilen: wheezy, and it does seem to be daemon.log, cheers |
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| 15:25.02 | babilen | yabw |
| 15:26.35 | koolfy | looking at the apt_pkg python doc, it is said that the is_trusted value is affected by checking that the package is signed by one key in the apt-keyring |
| 15:26.48 | koolfy | so I installed the debian-keyring package and tried again... with the same result. |
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| 15:28.04 | koolfy | http://apt.alioth.debian.org/python-apt-doc/library/apt_pkg.html#apt_pkg.AcquireItem.is_trusted |
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| 15:29.07 | koolfy | how can a libc6 package coming from security.debian.org possibly fail this check? |
| 15:29.59 | emorris | I'm having trouble getting NetworkManager to pick up a system-connections ini file. One thing I'm not sure about is whether you have to specify a uuid or if this will get assigned? http://pastebin.com/TUCj00k8 |
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| 15:43.34 | jadew | hey guys, any idea how to make dpkg stop trying to configure a package? |
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| 15:44.17 | jadew | it tried to configure mysql when I installed it, but I already had configuration files for it and a DB, so that part of the install process failed |
| 15:44.32 | jadew | now every time I install something it tries to configure mysql and fails |
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| 15:46.14 | arksi | load average: 493.89, 222.60, 85.25 |
| 15:46.15 | arksi | heehe |
| 15:47.28 | fraff | arksi: hu! check mine: 16:48:04 up 1241 days, 6:41, 1 user, load average: 0.27, 0.29, 0.21 |
| 15:47.43 | likecolacola | any hint?, i am trying to install telegram(the movile messaging program) and i get this error when i try to execute the binary |
| 15:47.45 | likecolacola | ./Telegram: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by ./Telegram) |
| 15:47.45 | arksi | nice uptime |
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| 15:47.54 | likecolacola | i am using debian stable |
| 15:48.10 | arksi | likecolacola: you should try installing it under a chroot or something |
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| 15:49.23 | arksi | chroot of debian-testing or the latest ubuntu or something |
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| 15:50.02 | arksi | upgrading glibc from backports is not for the feint of heart |
| 15:50.55 | likecolacola | Arkadietz, Thanks~!! |
| 15:51.05 | arksi | np |
| 15:54.17 | koolfy | can anybody help me with the unattended_upgrades script ? :( |
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| 16:07.52 | teclo- | ouch, can't get enscript to print anything |
| 16:09.01 | SynrGy | teclo-: divide the problem. can you get it to at least produce a .ps file? |
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| 16:17.23 | teclo- | SynrGy: well, I'm trying |
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| 16:18.14 | teclo- | it says invalid option while all the options are valid |
| 16:18.45 | SynrGy | teclo-: what's the exact command typed |
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| 16:20.04 | DevAntoine | apache2 was down on my server, I had to restart it, but I'd like to know why, and its logs show nothing. What logs can I check? |
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| 16:21.25 | Vroomfondel | DevAntoine: nothing in syslog/dmesg? |
| 16:21.27 | teclo- | enscript --header=="pi@raspberrypi - /etc/udev/rules.d/42-usb-disconnect.rules" -âfont=Courier10 --lines-per-page=62 --margins=20:20:40:20 --output=output.ps 42-usb-disconnect.rules |
| 16:21.44 | teclo- | looks like enscript isn't happy with "--header" |
| 16:21.51 | teclo- | ah damn I've got = two times |
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| 16:22.58 | SynrGy | teclo-: also: -âfont=Courier10 |
| 16:23.19 | SynrGy | you've used an em-dash there (and possibly also an en-dash before it?) instead of a hyphen |
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| 16:23.31 | teclo- | SynrGy: ah... |
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| 16:23.42 | teclo- | SynrGy: this must be because of UTF8 I guess ? |
| 16:23.47 | SynrGy | teclo-: are you doing this on a debian system or a raspbian system? |
| 16:24.01 | SynrGy | dunno. looks like a keyboard entry problem ... |
| 16:24.09 | teclo- | SynrGy: I'm printing from a Debian system |
| 16:24.11 | SynrGy | maybe long-press on an android keyboard? |
| 16:24.15 | SynrGy | k |
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| 16:24.24 | teclo- | ah wait, maybe I get it |
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| 16:25.12 | SynrGy | it's only that one option that has the wrong characters in it, so just a typo |
| 16:25.27 | SynrGy | and of course the double-equals you already spotted. |
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| 16:27.38 | teclo- | still getting invalid option |
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| 16:29.32 | DevAntoine | Vroomfondel, I gonna cjeck |
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| 16:33.26 | teclo- | damnit |
| 16:33.46 | DevAntoine | Vroomfondel: I did $grep apache /var/log/dmesg and $grep apache /var/log/syslog but nothing |
| 16:33.49 | teclo- | uhh I mean I'm still having issues |
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| 16:35.28 | teclo- | seems enscript doesn't support UTF8 ... ?! |
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| 16:35.33 | SynrGy | teclo-: again, divide and conquer. that's a buttload of options. build up the command from simpler command with subset of options. then add until you hit one that breaks it. then inspect it closely |
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| 16:35.54 | SynrGy | teclo-: is it still saying "invalid option"? if so, this isn't a UTF8 thing. this is a "I typed it incorrectly" thing |
| 16:36.06 | SynrGy | em-dashes aren't hyphens, for example |
| 16:36.16 | SynrGy | they can't be used interchangably |
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| 16:36.21 | SynrGy | nor are en-dashes |
| 16:36.29 | teclo- | indeed |
| 16:36.41 | teclo- | how do I convert a file from UTF-8 to iso8859 ? |
| 16:36.53 | jelly | teclo-: recode or iconv |
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| 16:37.11 | jelly | you need to know which iso8859-* |
| 16:37.21 | teclo- | iso8859-15 |
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| 16:37.45 | jelly | recode utf8..iso8859-15 < foo > bar |
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| 16:38.36 | teclo- | jelly: good, thank you |
| 16:39.44 | SynrGy | of course utf8 to any 8bit encoding could have invalid characters |
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| 16:40.17 | SynrGy | and recode can be fussy. but it has options to deal with that. see the fine man page :) |
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| 16:41.30 | teclo- | yes |
| 16:41.35 | teclo- | actually I used iconv |
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| 16:42.26 | teclo- | ok found out |
| 16:42.31 | teclo- | problem solved |
| 16:42.33 | teclo- | thanks a lot SynrGy |
| 16:42.44 | teclo- | actually you pointed out what was wrong |
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| 16:44.53 | teclo- | well all my machines are running Debian, except well, a desktop machine running MacOSX. I pasted the command line in TextEdit then in Terminal, and somehow MacOSX "interpreted" or rather, well, garbled the "-" into something else in UTF8 |
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| 16:45.21 | teclo- | solution was to edit the text file containing the command with vi |
| 16:45.27 | teclo- | my fault, sorry |
| 16:45.38 | JyZyXEL | how is it possible that 'df -h' says Size: "99G" and 'df' says "103081248 1K-block" |
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| 16:46.09 | sai | can anyone help me in sending the pgp key to server I used terminal command, it replied with a warning :nothing exported and also tried sync and publish in password & keys it replied could not send to server . What shou;d I do? |
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| 16:46.17 | JyZyXEL | there is a rounding error in the humanization of df -h? |
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| 16:46.57 | teclo- | JyZyXEL: maybe it's because there are gigabytes and gibybytes.... you know 10^3 is not 2^10 |
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| 16:47.14 | JyZyXEL | nonsense |
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| 16:48.53 | SynrGy | JyZyXEL: you can object all you want, but teclo- is correct. |
| 16:49.15 | teclo- | JyZyXEL: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabyte#Consumer_confusion |
| 16:49.35 | JyZyXEL | if we assume 1024 byte "1K blocks" then 103081248 1K-blocks is around 98.31 gibibytes |
| 16:49.36 | teclo- | it's not me, it's the hard disk manufacturers using decimal |
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| 16:50.09 | JyZyXEL | teclo-: there is no such thing as gibybyte |
| 16:50.30 | teclo- | JyZyXEL: I'm afraid there is http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gibibyte |
| 16:50.43 | JyZyXEL | teclo-: thats gibibyte |
| 16:50.50 | JyZyXEL | not gibybyte |
| 16:51.02 | teclo- | JyZyXEL: ah indeed gibibyte |
| 16:51.09 | teclo- | I typed too fast :) |
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| 16:51.19 | JyZyXEL | also a gibibyte is 1024^3 where as the SI-kilo is 1000^3 |
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| 16:52.52 | spal | I see that wheezy contains ffmpeg ( https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/ffmpeg ) but jessie doesn't ( https://packages.debian.org/jessie/ffmpeg ). anyone knows why? |
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| 16:53.25 | JyZyXEL | teclo-: so by doing the math, (103081248 * 1024) / (1024^3) |
| 16:53.49 | JyZyXEL | i do not get 99 GiB |
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| 16:55.14 | ctmjr | spal: ffmpeg has been replaced with libav-tools in jessie |
| 16:55.17 | CissWit | spal: from the description of ffmpeg "Users are advised to use avconv from the libav-tools package instead of ffmpeg. " |
| 16:55.39 | CissWit | still there have been discussion to integrate ffmpeg back in debian. see http://lwn.net/Articles/607591/ |
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| 16:56.02 | spal | thanks CissWit |
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| 16:57.55 | JyZyXEL | its almost interesting enough to take a look at the source code |
| 16:59.06 | JyZyXEL | "df always rounds up, rather than to nearest." |
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| 17:07.54 | no_gravity | What is an easy way to bring the load up on a server without really creating load? |
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| 17:09.17 | dayten | stress with nice |
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| 17:09.23 | no_gravity | dayten: how? |
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| 17:10.38 | no_gravity | i think i just need to processes in wait state. so the load goes over 2. |
| 17:11.23 | dayten | oh, stress for cpu load only |
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| 17:15.34 | dayten | or, may be not. you can try it |
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| 17:15.58 | sai | can anyone help me in sending the pgp key to server I used terminal command, it replied with a warning :nothing exported and also tried sync and publish in password & keys it replied could not send to server . What should I do? |
| 17:15.59 | no_gravity | dayten: is "stress" a command? |
| 17:16.06 | dayten | yes |
| 17:16.30 | SynrGy | no_gravity: any help? http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1971422/linux-how-to-put-a-load-on-system-memory |
| 17:16.33 | dayten | it's a package for stress test cpu |
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| 17:17.18 | bigterd | anyone have any links to exactly explain what lifetime writes is in tune2fs? |
| 17:17.20 | SynrGy | though the focus of the question is on memory, there are some interesting answers in comments |
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| 17:19.34 | sai | can anyone help me in sending the pgp key to server I used terminal command, it replied with a warning :nothing exported and also tried sync and publish in password & keys it replied could not send to server . What should I do? |
| 17:19.40 | g-maurizi | Hi #debian, I'm trying to understand how iptables makes its routing decisions in regards to the FORWARD table -- I want to know if clients behind a firewall/gateway/router would have web/http/tcp(80) access to the internet in the following simplified setup? ---> http://pastebin.com/Q0K0faMQ if not, is this because iptables uses all 3 chains in a routing decision? like I have to open port 80 |
| 17:19.40 | g-maurizi | in the input and output chain as well? Thank You for your help ahead of time! :) |
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| 17:21.37 | dayten | sai: how do you do export to server? |
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| 17:22.31 | sai | dayten : http://askubuntu.com/questions/100281/how-do-i-make-a-pgp-key |
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| 17:23.58 | sai | dayten: I tried both using terminal and also by GUI but no way was sucessful |
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| 17:28.01 | sai | dayten: do you have any solution for my issue |
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| 17:28.36 | t4nk861 | hi guys, i'm looking for help because i'm getting an error using svn |
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| 17:29.39 | t4nk861 | this is what i type : |
| 17:29.39 | dayten | sai: man gpg said, that there is an option --keyserver-options debug, try with it |
| 17:30.13 | t4nk861 | i should do : --keyserver-options debug ? |
| 17:30.38 | t4nk861 | i get the error 175002 |
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| 17:31.18 | hyper_ch | hi there, I'd like to run a script after boot up. I read that you can make a crontab entry like: @boot /path/to/script |
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| 17:31.52 | hyper_ch | however when I do that, I get: /tmp/crontab.XXXXX/crontab:23: bad time specifier errors in crontab file, can't install |
| 17:31.59 | dayten | sai: correct way to debug with --debug-all |
| 17:32.25 | petn-randall | hyper_ch: The man page will tell you why @boot doesn't work ... :) |
| 17:32.26 | SynrGy | hyper_ch: "at boot" is fairly arbitrary. what does the script do? |
| 17:32.34 | dayten | sai: by the way, i'm successfully send-key now |
| 17:33.01 | hyper_ch | SynrGy: well, it's a openvz container that's triggered to start up, process a file and then power off again and reset |
| 17:33.41 | dayten | sai: did you create key, is it showing with gpg --list-keys ? |
| 17:33.47 | SynrGy | hyper_ch: all of which tells me next to zero about what it actually does ;) |
| 17:33.59 | hyper_ch | SynrGy: it processes a few pdf files |
| 17:34.16 | SynrGy | ok. and this is appropriate to be run at boot only because ... |
| 17:34.17 | hyper_ch | SynrGy: it's a simple bash script |
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| 17:34.32 | hyper_ch | SynrGy: because as I've said before, it's a openvz container |
| 17:34.38 | hyper_ch | SynrGy: and the host will trigger to run it |
| 17:34.41 | hyper_ch | to process files |
| 17:34.44 | hyper_ch | then shut it down again |
| 17:34.48 | hyper_ch | and restore it |
| 17:35.00 | sai | dayten: I have already generated the key but unable to send it and trying the command gpg --keyserver keyserver --debug-all |
| 17:35.51 | sai | dayten: it gives interrupt caught exiting, is there any other way |
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| 17:36.23 | SynrGy | hyper_ch: so you're saying that the host actually manages scheduling of starting the openvz container, but since the container only exists to process the files, you want it to run at boot? |
| 17:36.35 | hyper_ch | SynrGy: yes |
| 17:36.37 | SynrGy | gotcha |
| 17:36.46 | dayten | sai: do you pass to gpg command 8-length key ? |
| 17:37.01 | hyper_ch | I just need to run a script at boot up and @boot in crontab seemed the easiest way |
| 17:37.07 | dayten | sai: like this gpg --debug-all --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --send-keys ???????? |
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| 17:37.20 | hyper_ch | since rc.local will be gone when systemd gets introduced - I think |
| 17:37.35 | dayten | sai: what about gpg --list-keys ? do you see your key? |
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| 17:39.06 | SynrGy | hyper_ch: but the caveats in crontab(5) make me think cron reall isn't the best way |
| 17:39.10 | sai | dayten: no it does not display when i hit gpg --list-keys but it gives o/p as gpg: /root/.gnupg/trustdb.gpg: trustdb created |
| 17:39.10 | SynrGy | really* |
| 17:39.25 | hyper_ch | SynrGy: the cron option sounded more portable then rc.local |
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| 17:39.39 | SynrGy | hyper_ch: and crontab(5) says '@reboot'. i don't see any '@boot' ... |
| 17:39.40 | dayten | sai: you didn't create key |
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| 17:40.00 | hyper_ch | SynrGy: hmmm.... |
| 17:40.11 | SynrGy | hyper_ch: you're sure cron starts at the right time? see the caveat in the man page |
| 17:40.23 | SynrGy | hyper_ch: it may be started before other things your script needs have started |
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| 17:41.12 | t4nk079 | hi, sorry i had a bug on my computer |
| 17:41.25 | SynrGy | hyper_ch: as for portability of init scripts, it was my impression that systemd-sysv handles that |
| 17:41.26 | t4nk079 | i was asking about a problem with svn |
| 17:41.34 | SynrGy | hyper_ch: and this would extend to rc.local, naturally |
| 17:41.57 | hyper_ch | SynrGy: the only thing I konw about systemd is that it's way different ;) |
| 17:41.57 | sai | now I tried again to send key using gpg --debug-all --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --send-keys and then i command gpg --lists |
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| 17:42.13 | hyper_ch | SynrGy: I'll go with rc.local then |
| 17:42.25 | sai | dayten: now I tried again to send key using gpg --debug-all --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --send-keys and then i command gpg --lists |
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| 17:42.48 | sai | dayten: and there is no results |
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| 17:43.09 | dayten | sai: gpg --list-keys the correct way to watch your keys |
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| 17:44.34 | sai | dayten: Is there any other way, so that I can have a key? |
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| 17:44.55 | SynrGy | hyper_ch: i'd be happy to be shown a better way, but cron just seemed a bit contorted. |
| 17:45.10 | dayten | gpg --list-secret-keys |
| 17:45.16 | hyper_ch | SynrGy: well, I think I'll go with rc.local |
| 17:45.19 | SynrGy | yep |
| 17:45.48 | youdo | anybody to help me with svn command ? |
| 17:45.54 | sai | dayten: No buddy no output |
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| 17:46.38 | dayten | sai: create it with gpg --gen-key |
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| 17:46.57 | SynrGy | !tell youdo about anybody |
| 17:47.42 | youdo | i get the error 175002 |
| 17:47.58 | dayten | youdo: what about http://stackoverflow.com/questions/14509251/svn-error-e175002 |
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| 17:48.31 | SynrGy | are we just a proxy for google? |
| 17:48.34 | hyper_ch | SynrGy: ok, rc.local works great |
| 17:48.39 | SynrGy | hyper_ch: superb. |
| 17:48.47 | hyper_ch | first time I actually used it... knew of it but never had any use this far |
| 17:48.58 | youdo | no i've seen it but don't understand what i'm suppose to do |
| 17:49.10 | dayten | sometimes |
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| 17:49.34 | SynrGy | youdo: you still haven't stated your actual problem. we know what error you got, but what are you trying to accomplish today? |
| 17:49.56 | youdo | this : http://www.openmediacentre.com.au/tutorials/raspberry-pi/bluetooth-a2dp-sink-in-raspbmc/ |
| 17:50.12 | dayten | youdo: did you talk about your problem with #svn guy's ? |
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| 17:50.47 | SynrGy | !raspbmc |
| 17:50.47 | dpkg | Raspbmc is a Linux distribution enabling the <Raspberry Pi> to operate as an <XBMC> front-end. It is not supported in #debian. http://www.raspbmc.com/ #raspbmc on chat.freenode.net. See also <based on debian>. |
| 17:51.00 | youdo_ | sorry i left without purpose, no i didn't, i'll ask them thank i didn't know there is a specific channel |
| 17:51.07 | SynrGy | youdo: sorry, wrong channel. see #raspbmc |
| 17:51.12 | SynrGy | yeap |
| 17:51.14 | abraxxl | hi, how can i use netaliases with ipv6? if address add $IP/$CIDR dev $DEV label $DEV:$ALIAS, works with ipv4, but not with ipv6 on wheezy and jessie. ip a s do not show the net aliases? |
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| 17:52.17 | Dagger | abraxxl: aliases are a bodge to allow adding multiple v4 addresses to an interface without needing to change the kernel interface for fetching v4 addresses |
| 17:52.23 | SynrGy | youdo: in general, you need to talk to #raspbmc about raspbmc issues, not us. they may have more insight about the tutorial you were trying to follow |
| 17:52.40 | Dagger | the v6 interface supports multiple addresses and so doesn't need the bodge. just add the IPs to the interface |
| 17:53.07 | abraxxl | Dagger: so there is now way to tag a name to an ipv6 address? |
| 17:53.12 | youdo_ | thank for help guys! :)) i'll try to get help in raspbmc channel |
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| 17:54.51 | Dagger | abraxxl: not directly in the kernel, anyway |
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| 17:58.32 | abraxxl | Dagger: "not directly in the kernel", is here an other way? to tag a ipv6 adress with an alias/name? |
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| 17:59.35 | Dagger | well... DNS? it's the normal way to do that |
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| 18:02.15 | abraxxl | dagger, i like to avoid DNS, as these are service IPs for DNS servers |
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| 18:07.44 | dayten | abraxxl: may be that: ip addrlabel help |
| 18:08.26 | Dagger | dayten: that's no help, that's for getaddrinfo() sorting |
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| 18:13.28 | JyZyXEL | why is .profile never run on debian? |
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| 18:13.50 | jelly | abraxxl: what are you trying to accomplish with that? |
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| 18:15.25 | jelly | JyZyXEL: are there any dot files of higher priority in place? man bash, read the INVOCATION section |
| 18:16.14 | JyZyXEL | jelly: i'm using zsh |
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| 18:17.08 | dayten | JyZyXEL: just invoke it from your .zshrc |
| 18:17.32 | JyZyXEL | "The easiest solution to both work with zsh and run ~/.profile is to create a ~/.zprofile that enters sh emulation mode while it runs ~/.profile" |
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| 18:17.41 | JyZyXEL | interesting :P |
| 18:18.18 | JyZyXEL | maybe zsh should come with that by default |
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| 18:18.44 | jelly | JyZyXEL: maybe it shouldn't, it's not a zsh rc file |
| 18:18.52 | jelly | it's a /bin/sh rc file |
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| 18:19.21 | JyZyXEL | ah |
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| 18:19.40 | jelly | use ~/.zshrc |
| 18:20.07 | JyZyXEL | jelly: but i need to have code that only executes for login shells, so i should use .zprofile? |
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| 18:21.45 | dayten | JyZyXEL: you should try with .zlogin |
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| 18:21.59 | JyZyXEL | yeah i guess that is the most appropriate |
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| 18:22.06 | jelly | JyZyXEL: what do you use zsh for, if not login shells? |
| 18:22.19 | jelly | you don't want the code to run in xterms, or? |
| 18:23.38 | jelly | but yeah, my right-prompt stuff seems to be in ~/.zlogin |
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| 18:24.35 | abraxxl | jelly: I like to fetch the Service IPs, that have been configured on a server via automatic deployment, into a service. for ipv4 i got i it working years ago via net aliases |
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| 18:25.49 | jelly | abraxxl: can your automatic deployment also add a couple lines to /etc/hosts |
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| 18:29.44 | Brigo | when /etc/hosts.d in debian? :D |
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| 18:41.12 | Freeaqingme | Hi folks. I'm just looking at this security thingie. Is it known to be remotely exploitable? https://security-tracker.debian.org/tracker/CVE-2015-1472 |
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| 18:47.29 | jelly | Freeaqingme: no clue, but the oss-sec link and RH bugzilla priority suggest it might not be |
| 18:47.33 | JordiGH | Any recommendations on how to get node.js's npm on Debian stable? |
| 18:47.45 | JordiGH | I tried a simple sid backport, which was not simple. :-( |
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| 18:49.13 | JordiGH | Ah, right, the problem is that node-glob is broken in backports. It has unstable deps. |
| 18:49.24 | Freeaqingme | jelly, alright. Thanks. |
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| 18:49.47 | JordiGH | I guess I could just install a bunch of node-$foo packages from unstable. |
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| 18:50.12 | jelly | JordiGH: that probably wouldn't work |
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| 18:50.40 | JordiGH | jelly: Hm, why not? I don't think there are any binary deps, are there? |
| 18:50.51 | JordiGH | aptitude seems ready to proceed. |
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| 18:51.00 | jelly | have a nice reinstall |
| 18:51.38 | JordiGH | What problem do you foresee? http://codepad.org/wUPNkkOi |
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| 18:52.01 | jelly | at the very least you'd need node and v8, that means you'd pull in newer glibc, and that's just not kosher |
| 18:52.10 | JordiGH | node.js itself is backported. |
| 18:52.12 | JordiGH | npm isn't |
| 18:52.19 | jelly | huh |
| 18:52.43 | JordiGH | And since we're in a freeze, bureaucracy to get newer backports in is a lot of work. |
| 18:53.11 | jelly | looking at output, still those ruby bits would scare me |
| 18:53.25 | JordiGH | None of the Ruby things are coming from unstable, though. |
| 18:54.04 | JordiGH | damns the torpedoes. |
| 18:54.06 | jelly | then it just might work |
| 18:54.36 | jelly | did you pin stuff up to know they're not from unstable? |
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| 19:15.37 | t0mas | I am a bit of a linuxnoob and I am looking for a way to share a folder on a remote server to my windows pc at home? [14:15] == Cannot send to channel: ##linux |
| 19:15.41 | t0mas | any help? |
| 19:17.38 | jelly | t0mas: hm, you probably need to register and identify with NickServ to be able to speak in ##linux. "/msg nickserv help register" |
| 19:17.48 | sine0 | that is correct |
| 19:18.01 | dayten | !samba |
| 19:18.01 | dpkg | Samba is a Unix implementation of Windows file/print sharing (the SMB/CIFS protocol). http://samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/ http://samba.org/samba/docs/ http://wiki.samba.org/ #samba on irc.freenode.net. See also <swat>, <dfs>. |
| 19:18.02 | t0mas | I am running debian on the remote server |
| 19:18.27 | t0mas | Isn't samba only safe in its within the local network? I will be accessing the folder remotely |
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| 19:18.51 | sine0 | t0mas: why not scp |
| 19:18.58 | dayten | or simply winscp |
| 19:19.04 | dayten | is more secure way |
| 19:19.11 | jelly | t0mas: since you already have ssh service on the remote server, use a sftp or scp client like filezilla or winscp |
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| 19:19.50 | nkuttler | t0mas: or smb tunnelled over ssh, if that's more convenient |
| 19:20.05 | t0mas | I want to have a drive mounted in windows that points to the folder on my server. |
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| 19:22.13 | t0mas | What would be the best thing to use so that I do not have to do much after it is setup? It will always show up as a drive on my PC? |
| 19:22.48 | dayten | t0mas: thereis an app to do this in secure way: win-sshfs |
| 19:23.03 | nkuttler | t0mas: you probably want to ask ##windows for the windows side of this |
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| 19:26.13 | jelly | webdav over https could be an option, I think the file manager in windows support webdav natively |
| 19:26.59 | eholsch | will Debian Wheezy update to libnss to 3.17 or can it be installed? |
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| 19:28.36 | jelly | eholsch: in general, versions of software in stable do not get bumped. Just patched for security issues. |
| 19:28.36 | dayten | eholsch: do it your self! |
| 19:28.43 | dayten | !simple sid backport |
| 19:28.43 | dpkg | First, check for a backport on <debian-backports>. If unavailable: 1) Add a deb-src line for sid (not a deb line!); ask me about <deb-src sid> 2) enable debian-backports (see <bdo>) 3) aptitude update; aptitude install build-essential; aptitude build-dep packagename; apt-get -b source packagename; 4) install the resultant debs. To change compilation options, see <package recompile>; for versions newer than sid see <uupdate>. |
| 19:28.45 | jelly | ,v libnss3 |
| 19:28.46 | judd | Package: libnss3 on i386 -- squeeze-backports: 2:3.14.5-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 2:3.14.5-1+deb7u3; wheezy-security: 2:3.14.5-1+deb7u3; sid: 2:3.17.2-1.1; jessie: 2:3.17.2-1.1 |
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| 19:29.44 | jelly | eholsch: it's possible mozilla.debian.net might backport it one day if it ends up being required for a firefox backport |
| 19:30.10 | jelly | eholsch: what do you need it for? |
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| 19:30.59 | eholsch | netflix on chrome. I will try the backport method. |
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| 20:24.56 | Tenkawa | Any of you gotten debian running natively on a winbook (microcenter brand) TW100? |
| 20:25.18 | Tenkawa | It has a 32 bit efi on top of its quad 64 bit atom |
| 20:26.07 | Tenkawa | I'm pondering trying to install debian on it however want to see if anyone has gone through the exercise yet |
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| 20:27.42 | deego | ISTR a debian package called security-support or something like that.. which alerts you to any unsupported/EOLed packages. Anyone remember the name of that? It's not in stable, but is in jessie/sid |
| 20:27.56 | Tenkawa | mind you if there is a 64 bit bay trail efi fix I'd be happy to put that on there first |
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| 20:28.23 | deego | ah, debian-security-support |
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| 20:29.16 | deego | ah, it's installable even in wheezie without breaking glibc or anything, just -t jessie.. |
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| 20:39.00 | bramgg_alt | When I run startx a single fullscreen terminal pops up, but it's out of focus and I can't find a way of bringing it in focus. I haven't specified any window manager, is this expected? |
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| 20:40.06 | jhutchins | bramgg_alt: What do you mean by focus? |
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| 20:42.51 | bramgg_alt | jhutchins: I can't type or do anything in it, the cursor ([] thing) is just an outline. |
| 20:43.29 | jhutchins | bramgg_alt: Alt-Tab has no effect? |
| 20:43.36 | bramgg_alt | jhutchins: no |
| 20:43.41 | jhutchins | bramgg_alt: Are you trying to build a kiosk or something? |
| 20:43.51 | bramgg_alt | no |
| 20:45.00 | deego | I have installed debian-security-support (from jessie) on my wheezy. This machine has chromium-browser. When I run check-support-status, it does *not* complain about anything, certainly not about chromium. Is that becasue it's a jessie package trying to run on wheezy? |
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| 20:46.02 | centrx | deego, wheezy-security goes with wheezy |
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| 20:46.25 | deego | centrx: wheezy-security? |
| 20:46.54 | centrx | oh nevermind |
| 20:47.31 | centrx | deego, Read the description of the package: https://packages.debian.org/jessie/debian-security-support |
| 20:47.53 | centrx | deego, It has notifications of whether support for a package has ended, chromium-browser support has not been ended, could that be it? |
| 20:47.59 | deego | centrx: yes. exactyl. that's why it should have complained about chromium |
| 20:48.02 | deego | "<centrx> deego, It has notifications of wheth [..] upport has not been ended, could that be it? " <<=== but it has! |
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| 20:48.15 | centrx | deego, not in wheezy...? |
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| 20:48.32 | deego | it's ended, yes, in wheezy |
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| 20:49.00 | deego | https://www.debian.org/security/2015/dsa-3148 |
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| 20:50.15 | centrx | oh right |
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| 20:50.45 | centrx | deego, So perhaps the debian-security-support package from jessie is checking against whether it's been discontinued in jessie? |
| 20:51.35 | deego | centrx: yeah, i guess so :| |
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| 20:58.43 | critter | hi |
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| 20:59.00 | critter | how can I erase metadata on PDF? |
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| 20:59.38 | ompaul | rewrite it |
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| 21:00.16 | ompaul | if text pdftotxt or some command like that with pdftotxt -layout foo.pdf will create a foo.txt if it was a text starter |
| 21:00.43 | ompaul | if not you are into the mad land of dump the jpg hope you don't lose too much detail and recombine it again |
| 21:01.28 | critter | ompaul: text only |
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| 21:01.48 | ompaul | critter: well if it was generated by a text tool there you go |
| 21:01.52 | ompaul | if not you might have fun |
| 21:02.32 | ompaul | critter: I tend not to solve problems in full but point you in the right direction within known error bounds - you should be able to resolve that from here - if not please say so |
| 21:03.39 | critter | ompaul: thanks a lot, I was trying with different metadata editors but it was too complicated |
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| 21:06.01 | critter | ompaul: sorry but what do I have to use to create pdf from the txt? |
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| 21:07.36 | trem0r | Just do a file print and print to pdf |
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| 21:08.42 | xxxxx | how can I jail a user so his /home/username looks like / for him? |
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| 21:11.14 | smj | Apparently my root partition got a new UUID when I converted it to btrfs... How do I check the new one? |
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| 21:12.37 | smj | oh... blkid |
| 21:12.42 | trem0r | Do you want to chroot jail for ssh only? |
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| 21:21.50 | metabsd | I use debian testing and i need openjdk 8 anyone can help please. I find some technote about installing that version but on ubuntu |
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| 21:22.46 | centrx | metabsd, It's in sid, you could grab it from there |
| 21:23.26 | xxxxx | trem0r: for sftp access. so yes |
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| 21:24.56 | metabsd | centrx, i can install sid package on testing |
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| 21:36.36 | ompaul | critter: you could use openoffice or latex |
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| 21:41.08 | mwillbanks | is it possible for ifconfig to write out my changes to say eth0 to /etc/network/interfaces? |
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| 21:44.01 | trem0r | xxxxx, http://paste.debian.net/155965/ |
| 21:44.41 | xxxxx | trem0r: thank you :) |
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| 21:44.53 | trem0r | Sure thing man |
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| 22:16.33 | dimitry7 | Hi guys. If I install Debian Sid. When Jessie finally gets released, it will be enough to do an apt-get dist-upgrade to be running the stable ?? |
| 22:16.51 | dimitry7 | * will it... |
| 22:17.12 | centrx | dimitry7, no, that's if you install Debian Jessie, which you can now |
| 22:17.21 | bzed | dimitry7: use testing then, not sid. or just write jessie in your sources.list and upgrade. |
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| 22:17.53 | dimitry7 | Sorry I meant testing |
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| 22:18.19 | centrx | dimitry7, Yes, just make sure to use the name 'jessie' in your sources.list, NOT 'testing' |
| 22:19.22 | dimitry7 | centrx, oh perfect. Do I use 'jessie' in sources.list from now or until it gets released?¡ |
| 22:19.53 | acz32 | is it possible to expand the size of a LUKS partition? |
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| 22:20.04 | centrx | dimitry7, from not until you decide to upgrade to the release name after jessie or sid |
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| 22:25.02 | dimitry7 | centrx, okay so now the proper is to be using testing in the sources.list? |
| 22:25.25 | centrx | dimitry7, the proper is to use 'jessie' |
| 22:25.46 | centrx | dimitry7, If you use 'testing', you will not stay with stable after jessie is released, you will still be tracking testing |
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| 22:26.51 | dimitry7 | centrx, ooh, I got it now. Perfect man!! Thank you!! |
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| 22:28.18 | dimitry7 | centrx, installing Jessie from now is better than upgrading from Wheezy right? |
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| 22:28.38 | centrx | dimitry7, You also want to make sure you have a security.debian.org line for jessie (for after release) |
| 22:28.46 | acz32 | dimitry7: did you download the jessie disc image? |
| 22:29.00 | centrx | dimitry7, Either way works fine |
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| 22:29.11 | dimitry7 | http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/weekly-builds/amd64/iso-cd/debian-testing-amd64-CD-1.iso |
| 22:29.14 | dimitry7 | that one, yes |
| 22:29.20 | acz32 | ok |
| 22:29.23 | centrx | dimitry7, If you have newer hardware you should probably using the jessie installer |
| 22:29.29 | dimitry7 | centrx, security.debian.org just until released? |
| 22:29.33 | centrx | dimitry7, I would recommed using the RC1 release, not the weekly build |
| 22:29.49 | acz32 | he can add the security repo now can't he? there's just nothing in it |
| 22:29.54 | centrx | dimitry7, security.debian.org for after release, just to have it there for when security updates start being released for jessie |
| 22:29.56 | dimitry7 | centrx, yes I have a dell latitude e6440 |
| 22:30.10 | dimitry7 | centrx, ok perfecto |
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| 22:31.19 | dimitry7 | RC1 release? |
| 22:31.41 | centrx | dimitry7, https://www.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/ |
| 22:31.43 | dimitry7 | better than upgrading from wheezy? |
| 22:32.11 | centrx | dimitry7, The link you pasted above was the weekly snapshot/weekly build. It might work fine, but the RC1 is a somewhat tested 'release' (candidate) |
| 22:32.30 | centrx | dimitry7, so it's more likely to be stable than a random weekly build |
| 22:32.55 | dimitry7 | centrx, okay, perfect! |
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| 22:33.33 | dimitry7 | centrx, http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/jessie_di_rc1/amd64/iso-cd/debian-jessie-DI-rc1-amd64-CD-1.iso |
| 22:33.47 | dimitry7 | is that enought? or do I need the installer apart from this one? |
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| 22:34.56 | centrx | dimitry7, CD-1 is all you need, but you may want the netinst instead of CD-1 |
| 22:35.26 | centrx | dimitry7, smaller ISO download, not downloading packages you aren't going to install |
| 22:35.29 | themill | dimitry7: "enough" depends on how much stuff you ask the installer to install |
| 22:35.30 | dimitry7 | centrx, yes. One of my workmates is asking whether to upgrade from wheezy rather than installing Jessie |
| 22:35.38 | dimitry7 | I think is better to install it from now, isnt it? |
| 22:36.00 | themill | If you've already got wheezy installed then upgrade; if it's a new install then installing jessie directly is probably better |
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| 22:36.08 | centrx | dimitry7, Either way works. If he wants to have a fresh install, that's a different question |
| 22:36.37 | dimitry7 | Yes it will be a fresh install |
| 22:36.59 | dimitry7 | themill, for fresh install, do you recommend jessie testing or wheezy? |
| 22:37.47 | acz32 | lol |
| 22:37.56 | themill | Probably jessie at this stage. Security support is a little slow at this stage though |
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| 22:38.25 | dimitry7 | themill, thank you man! |
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| 23:34.43 | dimitry7 | lol |
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| 23:57.20 | smj | is there 64-bit Wine in Debian repositories? or do I need to compile it? |
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| 23:59.09 | Brigo | smj, there is it |
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