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| 00:17.54 | n3lthon | hi, im trying to use vlans but on boot i get the error "trying to add VLAN #1 to IF -:eth0:- error: File exists". and the boot stops here. |
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| 00:28.29 | Freeaqingme | n3lthon, whenever the ip tools say 'File exists' it usually means that whatever you're trying to add (be it a route or an address. Or, I suppose a vlan), it will give you that message |
| 00:29.26 | n3lthon | Freeaqingme, but the problem is that the boot stops :/ |
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| 00:53.42 | Smerdyakov | The Google Hangout plugin .deb wants a libc version newer than what I have in Debian stable. Any suggestions on how to install a suitable plugin? |
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| 01:00.33 | themill | Smerdyakov: upgrading to jessie is a viable option at this stage |
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| 01:01.26 | Smerdyakov | themill, sounds a little too vigorous! I'm trying now to work with Google's latest Chrome .deb, which _did_ install, and which may have the plugin included. So installing more may be easier.... |
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| 01:01.51 | polyphagia | why does hangouts even still need a plugin |
| 01:02.03 | OSVG | If you want it to run while Chrome is closed. |
| 01:02.25 | polyphagia | i thought chrome supported multiple webrtc streams |
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| 01:56.07 | FlyingPersian | hi |
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| 02:00.12 | FlyingPersian | I'm not sure how hard it can be, but I'm trying to restrict a sftpuser to his home dir, but the tutorials seem to be super complicated and I'm not sure if that'S the way I want to do it |
| 02:00.23 | FlyingPersian | is there a quick and easy solution to do this? |
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| 02:00.42 | FlyingPersian | I thought this will do it, but it isn't: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1526919/linux-shell-to-restrict-sftp-users-to-their-home-directories |
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| 02:01.58 | kellnola | well, the problem is that if a user can't read anything on the filesystem, they obviously won't be able to do much |
| 02:02.28 | FlyingPersian | well he just needs to be able to write stuff |
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| 02:02.30 | FlyingPersian | that's it |
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| 02:02.34 | FlyingPersian | read and write |
| 02:03.00 | FlyingPersian | and of course use the shell |
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| 02:05.34 | louis_ | I don't know how I managed to do this, but volume up & down no longer work with pulseaudio in xfce. :( only in mate. mute works, but volume up/down doesn't. |
| 02:05.44 | louis_ | is there any update or dumb mistake I could have made to have broken this? |
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| 02:07.16 | kellnola | FlyingPersian, look into rssh - looks promising for your needs |
| 02:07.34 | kellnola | !rssh |
| 02:07.34 | dpkg | rssh is a restricted shell for use with OpenSSH, restricting a user to only use one or more of scp, sftp, cvs, rsync and rdist. It can optionally chroot into a (administrator created) jail before running the command. http://www.pizzashack.org/rssh/faq.shtml http://www.pizzashack.org/rssh/ See also <scponly>. |
| 02:07.48 | FlyingPersian | thanks |
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| 02:15.48 | louis_ | Is there a program that will show the output of a key? |
| 02:15.59 | louis_ | I want to see what xfce sees when I hit volume up or down |
| 02:16.19 | louis_ | I see the cursor blink if I hit the volume up or down key, so something is registering. I am curious what it sees. |
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| 02:23.47 | FlyingPersian | this looks quite promissing kellnola, but I'm having a slight issue |
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| 02:24.17 | FlyingPersian | I allowed sftp and I'm now trying to login to that server via that user I gave rssh to |
| 02:24.26 | FlyingPersian | but it times out |
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| 02:26.26 | FlyingPersian | is there anything else I need to do? |
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| 02:27.29 | _2_brooke | hello |
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| 02:29.46 | _2_brooke | :) |
| 02:30.01 | _2_brooke | See this image: http://imagizer.imageshack.com/img911/1995/DoXglJ.jpg |
| 02:30.14 | day | im on a vps trying to mount a cifs share. i noticed that im unable t o modprobe any modules, including cifs :p |
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| 02:30.31 | day | libkmod: ERROR ../libkmod/libkmod.c:554 kmod_search_moddep: could not open moddep file '/lib/modules/2.6.32-042stab103.6/modules.dep.bin' |
| 02:30.42 | OSVG | day: Is the VPS Paravirtualized? |
| 02:30.42 | _2_brooke | really |
| 02:31.03 | _2_brooke | See this image: http://imagizer.imageshack.com/img537/2087/x6BsHg.jpg |
| 02:31.12 | _2_brooke | my sister skyler hyland |
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| 02:32.07 | day | OSVG: ive no idea tbh. never heard that before. i know that it uses openVZ and is price wise on the very cheap side |
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| 02:33.51 | OSVG | Very likely it is then. What that means is that unlike solutions where you have a fully unique virtual hardware setup, where the box has it's own virtual bios and has to have an OS installed, it's got a basic image that is then paravirtualized into the VPS, this is great for VPS providers because it allows them to keep you from doing things that would break their hosts, and reduces provisioning |
| 02:33.51 | OSVG | time. |
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| 02:34.20 | OSVG | PV is a little bit more complicated than that, and that's a foggy overview, but it's possible that your VPS may have restrictions for whatever reason on doing certain things in it. |
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| 02:35.12 | day | OSVG: hm. dmesg gives me no output either |
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| 02:35.21 | _2_brooke | sex |
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| 02:40.15 | day | OSVG: any idea how to make sure that its a implemented limitation and not me doing the wrong thing? |
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| 02:40.37 | OSVG | You could ask your VPS provider. |
| 02:40.43 | OSVG | Beyond that, I'm not terribly sure. |
| 02:42.05 | kellnola | FlyingPersian, make sure the port is open from remote .. are you blocking it? |
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| 02:42.16 | FlyingPersian | I figured that part out kellnola |
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| 02:42.24 | FlyingPersian | do I need to create a jail for chroot? |
| 02:42.30 | FlyingPersian | or can chroot be a path on the server? |
| 02:42.37 | kellnola | don't know, not familiar with it |
| 02:42.50 | kellnola | jail and chroot are the same thing ... |
| 02:43.02 | kellnola | more or less |
| 02:43.08 | FlyingPersian | oh okay |
| 02:43.20 | FlyingPersian | cuz when I don't activate the chroot setting sftp works fine |
| 02:43.34 | FlyingPersian | when I do I get "connection closed" |
| 02:43.54 | kellnola | what does the ssh server say on the server side? /var/log/auth.log |
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| 02:44.46 | FlyingPersian | let me pastebin it |
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| 02:46.39 | FlyingPersian | http://pastebin.com/6itGqCpZ @ kellnola |
| 02:49.42 | FlyingPersian | I have both publickey and pass auth activaed kellnola. |
| 02:49.47 | day | hm i think the whole issue is caused by the custom kernel/ kernel name :/ |
| 02:49.58 | day | 2.6.32-042stab103.6 |
| 02:50.19 | kellnola | FlyingPersian, /usr/share/doc/rssh/CHROOT.gz |
| 02:50.25 | FlyingPersian | when I activate the chroot dir it closes the connection. when there's no chroot dir defined it doesn't wor |
| 02:50.26 | FlyingPersian | j |
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| 02:50.33 | FlyingPersian | ? |
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| 02:52.11 | kellnola | they included a script to set up the jail ... did you run that? |
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| 02:52.30 | FlyingPersian | no I didn't |
| 02:52.32 | day | sigh. i guess you get what you pay for~ |
| 02:52.35 | FlyingPersian | I didn't know I needed a jail |
| 02:55.05 | kellnola | you would need to edit it a bit. |
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| 03:07.11 | excalibr | Hi. Question about debianizing source. How do you build .deb for i386 when building on x86_64 machine? |
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| 03:09.02 | themill | excalibr: the best way is to make an i386 chroot |
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| 03:11.21 | excalibr | oh OK. I thought you could just throw some flags to the builder tools |
| 03:13.32 | themill | excalibr: well... if all the packages are multiarched and you have a working cross-toolchain etc etc. It's easier just to use a second chroot. |
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| 03:14.18 | sine0 | how can i check if i have cron running on my system ? i have made a small simple bash script to send an email and i want cron to run it |
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| 03:14.37 | mns | I keep getting a "404 Not Found" message for http://cdn.debian.net/debian/dists/testing/main/source/Sources and some other related URLs. Anyone else seeing this or know about it ? |
| 03:15.08 | mns | sine0: ps uaxwww | grep cron should tell you |
| 03:15.40 | mns | sine0: you should see /usr/sbin/cron -f running |
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| 03:15.52 | sine0 | root 1786 0.0 0.2 4312 1120 ? Ss Feb18 0:04 /usr/sbin/cron |
| 03:15.52 | sine0 | sine 4792 0.0 0.4 4036 1772 pts/2 S+ 03:15 0:00 grep cron |
| 03:16.08 | OSVG | mns: That page is showing a default "It Works!" at root. |
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| 03:16.41 | mns | sine0: yeah so you've got it running. |
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| 03:17.25 | mns | OSVG: I forgot to mention that this is when I'm doing apt-get update. |
| 03:18.27 | un214 | am I the only one who seriously screwed up a system by running apt-get dist-upgrade in a chroot? |
| 03:19.32 | OSVG | mns: Yeah, I'm thinking there's something wrong with that, however, since as far as I can tell that whole path is either not being served or does not exist. |
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| 03:20.13 | sine0 | mns: cron and crontab the same things ? |
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| 03:21.27 | OSVG | crontab is how you edit cron typically. |
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| 03:23.13 | sine0 | OSVG: i have done |
| 03:23.27 | sine0 | but it doesnt seem to be running my script. im a newb so im doing soemthing wrong |
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| 03:23.43 | OSVG | Have you checked your logs to be sure it's not running? |
| 03:23.48 | OSVG | Also, is your script in the right shell? |
| 03:23.49 | sine0 | there is no entry in crontab -e |
| 03:23.54 | sine0 | 21 * * * * /home/sine/lovemail.sh |
| 03:23.58 | sine0 | thats my entry |
| 03:24.08 | OSVG | If there's no entry in crontab -e then you need to add it. |
| 03:24.36 | sine0 | I have, thats my entry |
| 03:24.38 | day | isnt there a dot missing? |
| 03:24.44 | day | ./home/sine/lovemail.sh ? |
| 03:24.47 | sine0 | ahh |
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| 03:25.53 | OSVG | dots should only be required for local launch, as the dot indicates to start in the local folder and path from there. |
| 03:26.12 | day | ah thats what it is for :p |
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| 03:26.56 | OSVG | Trivia, but on that note: .. indicates to go back a folder. |
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| 03:27.19 | OSVG | So you can do ../folder/to/path and it will go back one folder in the hierarchy and look for /folder/ and go from there. |
| 03:27.28 | day | yeah i know. i just never thought about it. i just memorized it as 'thats how you execute something' |
| 03:27.32 | sine0 | ok well its not working with and without |
| 03:27.41 | sine0 | do i have to make cron an owner of the file ? |
| 03:27.52 | OSVG | You don't need to make cron the owner of the file. |
| 03:28.01 | OSVG | When you edit the crontab, and you save it and exit. |
| 03:28.04 | day | maybe you need to restart crone? |
| 03:28.07 | OSVG | Does it say after you exit "updating crontab"? |
| 03:28.18 | OSVG | Or "updating cron" rather? |
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| 03:28.48 | OSVG | Then if you go back in you should see your entry there. |
| 03:29.13 | OSVG | After that, you need to make sure that your script is written with everything spelled out. Cron doesn't run with your environment, so it won't have your path. |
| 03:29.25 | OSVG | So you need to do /folder/to/executable for every command |
| 03:29.32 | OSVG | Unless you know that Cron has it in it's path. |
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| 03:29.53 | day | does the command work manually? |
| 03:29.56 | OSVG | It also runs in a sh not a bash typically, though that too can be changed just like it's path. |
| 03:30.21 | sine0 | i edit crontab -e and its in nano and i save it |
| 03:30.59 | day | if you reopen crontab -e is it still there? |
| 03:31.07 | sine0 | I exit and it updates |
| 03:31.15 | sine0 | yes of course, im not that new :P |
| 03:31.20 | OSVG | Ok. |
| 03:31.22 | OSVG | So there's step one. |
| 03:31.40 | sine0 | i have also "sudo /etc/init.d/cron start" |
| 03:32.03 | OSVG | Now once it's in crontab it should output logs (included in your shell script if you added it) to the cron log. |
| 03:32.10 | day | btw. 21 * * * * will run the script at xx.21 iirc. |
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| 03:32.16 | day | how do you know its not working? |
| 03:32.27 | sine0 | because its not sending the email |
| 03:32.30 | OSVG | Again, if your shell script fails, it's likely to be for one of the two reasons I mentioned above. |
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| 03:32.39 | sine0 | and yes i keep changing the time to reflect a minute from now, when im testing it |
| 03:32.39 | day | yeah because it wasnt xx.21 yet :P |
| 03:32.44 | day | ah nvm then |
| 03:32.58 | sine0 | so the files in the script have to be fully addressed |
| 03:32.59 | OSVG | Either it can't find the path to a command or it's got an unrecognized command. |
| 03:33.04 | LtL | sine0: does your script have a 'bang' line at the top? e.g.,#!/bin/bash |
| 03:33.05 | sine0 | like if i pipe to a tempfile |
| 03:33.08 | themill | sine0: weren't you running raspbian? |
| 03:33.11 | OSVG | Typically, unless you're certain that cron will have them in the path. |
| 03:33.15 | sine0 | whistles |
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| 03:33.28 | sine0 | themill: yes |
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| 03:33.46 | sine0 | yea i got this as the top |
| 03:33.47 | sine0 | #!/bin/bash |
| 03:34.04 | themill | sine0: please seek help for raspbian in #raspbian. Their images do things differently and they have different package versions. |
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| 03:34.20 | sine0 | themill this is on debian on my laptop |
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| 03:37.03 | OSVG | sine0: So, is your script fully addressed or is it assuming that the PATH variable will be set correctly? |
| 03:37.56 | sine0 | ive only been running the script from my /home/sine |
| 03:38.09 | sine0 | so the files it pipes to are called just as their name |
| 03:38.16 | OSVG | Then you have a problem. |
| 03:38.23 | sine0 | ok |
| 03:38.45 | sine0 | i will read up more bash things |
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| 03:48.12 | srg | Anyone else getting 404 Not Found with the cdn.debian.net repos? |
| 03:48.56 | day | sine0: maybe try cron'ing a simple command to make sure its not a cron using issue. something like echo "test" > home/user/test |
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| 03:49.32 | OSVG | srg: Yes. |
| 03:49.38 | OSVG | mns and when I tested it myself. |
| 03:49.48 | OSVG | The web root of the server is displaying the generic "It works!" page. |
| 03:50.02 | OSVG | And I could not find anything being hosted deeper than that. |
| 03:50.12 | srg | Hm |
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| 03:50.24 | srg | disk must've died or something. |
| 03:50.32 | srg | I imagine it'll be up again soon |
| 03:51.22 | themill | cd.d.n was shut down a while back. You should use http.debian.net |
| 03:52.03 | themill | (cdn.d.n will be transferred over to point to http.d.n at some stage but that will take a while to complete) |
| 03:53.21 | srg | ok, I just saw the mozilla.debian.net wizard has new URLs too |
| 03:53.23 | srg | thanks themill |
| 03:54.26 | mns | themill: thanks. I'd just switched to using cdn.d.n a little while ago, well about a year ago. |
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| 03:54.44 | mns | themill: where do this things get announced ? |
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| 03:56.43 | themill | mns: this was discussed briefly on d-devel: https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2014/12/msg00181.html |
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| 03:57.31 | themill | (it looks like remapping cdn.d.n to http.d.n is half-way done atm -- I'm not sure why it's not completed) |
| 04:00.07 | mns | themill: ahh ok. that explains why I don't know about it, as I'm not on that list. |
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| 04:05.15 | themill | srg, mns: I've given the developer who looks after http.d.n a prod to make sure they know that this is currently broken. |
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| 04:07.31 | mns | themill: cool thanks. |
| 04:07.54 | mns | I just switched over to using http.d.n and things are working fine. |
| 04:10.15 | srg | themill: thank you! |
| 04:10.39 | themill | There's actually another message today from the former operator of cdn.d.n saying that he has just switched it off. |
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| 04:22.08 | mns | themill: that would explain why today was the day that I started seeing the issue. Wasn't there yesterday. |
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| 05:05.01 | sine0 | day: i corn simple commands and it works, touch file etc. even made a script with the trouch command and it worked but yet my script wont work. there are only 2 files i create in teh script that i pipe to and they are referenced with full paths |
| 05:05.12 | sine0 | cron* |
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| 05:06.52 | themill | can you pastebin the script that doesn't work? precisely what line do you have in crontab? |
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| 05:08.48 | sine0 | ok let me grab it |
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| 05:12.59 | sine0 | http://bal.ms/x |
| 05:13.05 | sine0 | themill: |
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| 05:15.32 | LtL | sine0: export $PAtH maybe |
| 05:15.53 | sine0 | LtL: come again |
| 05:16.02 | sine0 | thats the syntax |
| 05:16.21 | sine0 | export $PATH /bin: |
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| 05:16.23 | sine0 | etc ? |
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| 05:17.35 | LtL | sine0: yes, try using export |
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| 05:21.23 | sine0 | no it does not like it still |
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| 05:23.17 | sine0 | i tried export PATH and export $PATH |
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| 05:23.41 | sine0 | I have the cron on * * * * * and i am watching the syslog cron seems to be running the script |
| 05:24.00 | LtL | sine0: you do have /home/user/bin enabled in .bashrc right |
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| 05:24.59 | themill | sine0: what does "ls -l /home/sine/bin/lovemail.sh" say? |
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| 05:25.48 | sine0 | sine@pcsage:~$ ls -l /home/sine/bin/lovemail.sh |
| 05:25.48 | sine0 | -rwxr-xr-x 1 sine sine 2436 Mar 1 05:20 /home/sine/bin/lovemail.sh |
| 05:26.07 | themill | And the output of "mount"? |
| 05:26.10 | sine0 | LtL: no i have not touched the .bashrc |
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| 05:27.54 | LtL | sine0: user/bin isn;t enabled by default iirc run, echo $PATH see if its in your path |
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| 05:28.35 | sine0 | sine@pcsage:~$ echo $PATH |
| 05:28.35 | sine0 | /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/local/games:/usr/games |
| 05:28.50 | sine0 | wtf i dont play games |
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| 05:29.15 | LtL | sine0: not there, games is bt default |
| 05:30.31 | sine0 | themill: there is too much to paste what are you hinting at with the mounts |
| 05:30.55 | themill | too much for a pastebin!? |
| 05:30.56 | sine0 | LtL: are you saying there is soemthing missing from teh bashrc |
| 05:30.58 | sine0 | oh ok |
| 05:31.11 | sine0 | i just wonder where your going with it |
| 05:31.53 | LtL | sine0: i forget which file has the comment to enable the users bin dir |
| 05:32.27 | themill | LtL: there's nothing from ~/bin being used there that doesn't have a full path, is there? |
| 05:32.58 | LtL | themill: no |
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| 05:33.50 | sine0 | ttp://dpaste.com/3WHW007 |
| 05:33.54 | LtL | well yeah the cron entry states that dir |
| 05:34.10 | sine0 | im trying it on my different systems |
| 05:34.30 | themill | your laptop has / on an sd card? |
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| 05:37.27 | sine0 | no |
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| 05:38.36 | sine0 | thats my pi |
| 05:39.10 | themill | bah. |
| 05:39.13 | sine0 | I cant run apache and exim on my laptop |
| 05:39.31 | sine0 | hugs themill |
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| 05:40.50 | tomivs | Hi all, I can't do "swapoff -a" |
| 05:40.52 | tomivs | swapoff: /dev/sda1: swapoff failed: Cannot allocate memory |
| 05:41.45 | tomivs | I tried this: "sync; echo 3 > /proc/sys/vm/drop_caches" but still not working |
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| 05:45.01 | tomivs | Solved :D |
| 05:45.33 | mns | tomivs: how was it solved ? |
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| 05:47.46 | mns | where are the menu entries that are used in creating the Application Menu in XFCE ? |
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| 06:11.57 | sine0 | I got it working in the end guys thanks for the help |
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| 06:12.43 | sine0 | i put the bash path in crontab and also put a new line after my entry |
| 06:12.47 | sine0 | and it was working |
| 06:12.49 | sine0 | anyway zzzzzzzz |
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| 06:49.38 | zRecursive | After `startx`, why is there always a yellow screen which will disappear after entering the DWM ? |
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| 06:50.20 | shay_shay | zRecursive: because reasons |
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| 06:53.54 | Sway | Is it just me or is configuring failover ipv4 addresses in /etc/network/interfaces no longer supported After upgrading from debian 7.5 |
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| 06:55.43 | Sway | restarting networking silently fails and doesn't add new interfaces. I'm having a hard time finding proper documentation to configure additional interfaces for my server. |
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| 06:56.16 | zRecursive | shay_shay: maybe the yellow screen is X's default screen |
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| 07:34.28 | Zipf | Hello all, i'm a new linux user. I'm running Debian squeeze, from last week, i've started to get emails for now reason. I opened it and theres an info there about vnstat |
| 07:34.35 | Zipf | http://paste.debian.net/158896/ |
| 07:34.40 | Zipf | that's what i got |
| 07:34.57 | Zipf | is there anything i can check to fix that ? |
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| 07:48.20 | babilen | Zipf: You are aware that squeeze is ancient and that you really shouldn't run it anymore if you don't have to, don't you? |
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| 07:50.53 | babilen | You seem to have installed vnstat and the content of that message is "Info: Traffic rate for "eth0" higher than set maximum 100 Mbit (301->4139, r4705 t492), syncing." -- A cron job is a process that is being executed regularly on a set schedule. Not sure why vnstat comes with one and I can't find it in its file list, but that is the background. |
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| 07:52.24 | Zipf | babilen yes, i understead, but i have to use squeeze |
| 07:53.00 | babilen | Why is that? What will you do in five years? |
| 07:53.49 | Zipf | that's a very old install of it, i just never touched it, since i'm learning linux, it just run and ftp on it, is has a gbit network card |
| 07:54.04 | Zipf | that never happened before, just noticed it due the new mails |
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| 07:55.36 | babilen | Well, look into your cron jobs. You might want to use crontab for that (read "man crontab") and use something like "crontab -l" to show it. |
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| 07:56.04 | Zipf | ok, i'll take a look on it |
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| 08:17.59 | Zipf | ty again babilen |
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| 08:20.22 | yottanami | I changed cable of my monitor now the xrandr resolutions are limited and I have no wide resolution |
| 08:20.33 | yottanami | I used this commands http://dpaste.com/3X9YP03 to add new mode to xrandr |
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| 08:20.52 | yottanami | but when I set that mode it returns to 1024x768 |
| 08:21.05 | yottanami | How should I fix that? |
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| 08:55.01 | Ixxie | hey guys |
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| 08:59.35 | Ixxie | so, debianites, can I expect jessie this year? |
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| 09:03.28 | phix | Ixxie: yes, and the spanish inquisition |
| 09:03.43 | Ixxie | lol |
| 09:04.02 | Ixxie | phix: to be clear, is that a yes, a no or a maybe? xD |
| 09:04.20 | phix | No one expected the spanish inquisition |
| 09:04.29 | phix | nor am I expecting jessie |
| 09:04.37 | phix | but it will come |
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| 09:07.49 | Ixxie | phix: you must be some kinda linux zen master |
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| 09:11.40 | phix | Ixxie: sometimes |
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| 09:29.06 | suexec | I downloaded and compiled the kernel driver for my broadcom BCM43225. When I compiled it, it created a .ko file. The driver is placed in /lib/modules/3.2.0-4-amd64/kernel/drivers/net/wireless. How can I load it? modprobe says module not found. |
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| 09:34.10 | phix | suexec: insmod |
| 09:34.13 | suexec | nvm. insmod fixed it. |
| 09:34.16 | suexec | ah - hehe :) |
| 09:34.17 | phix | <3 |
| 09:34.21 | phix | great minds |
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| 09:41.15 | Ixxie | phix: when jessie comes, I can easily just upgrade right? I won't need to reinstall from scratch? |
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| 09:41.45 | phix | Ixxie: you shouldn't have to. I have never had to since woody |
| 09:41.54 | phix | actually, since potatoes |
| 09:42.12 | Ixxie | cool, thanks |
| 09:42.27 | phix | anytime budy |
| 09:42.40 | Ixxie | I guess jessie won't be using the 4.0 kernel right? |
| 09:42.54 | phix | when it finally comes out the 5 kernel series will be out |
| 09:43.02 | phix | well 6 even |
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| 09:43.13 | Ixxie | :P |
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| 09:44.09 | Ixxie | I am quite bad with all this GNU business, so I actually have to think twice about whether you are joking or not |
| 09:44.18 | Ixxie | and in the end I am not really sure |
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| 09:45.24 | monkwitdafunk | Debian wheezy uses the 3.2 kernel if im right |
| 09:46.30 | Ixxie | that much is clear; but I know the 4.0 kernel is coming out now and I wondered how quickly debian takes up new kernel updates into its stable version |
| 09:46.47 | Ixxie | because for packages its a slow process but nothing is said about kernel updates |
| 09:47.40 | phix | Ixxie: I get jokes |
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| 09:48.08 | phix | Ixxie: Debian isn't quick at anything |
| 09:48.17 | phix | Especially at releasing new versions |
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| 09:48.31 | Ixxie | well I guess that is the price of stability |
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| 09:48.40 | Ixxie | and stability is my priority |
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| 09:50.42 | phix | Ixxie: if it was you would be using BSD |
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| 09:51.02 | Ixxie | lets say, a balance of stability and functionality |
| 09:51.04 | Ixxie | :P |
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| 09:51.29 | phix | :) |
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| 09:52.13 | Ixxie | its just, I want access to the linux ecosystem, but I also need to get shit done so I don |
| 09:52.29 | Ixxie | t wanna spend my days figuring out how to get my OS to work xP |
| 09:52.34 | monkwitdafunk | Is somebody here just waiting for uefi support and waiting for the kernels new technology to control |
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| 09:54.10 | monkwitdafunk | Try finding a debian operating system driven computer sold by a manufacturer |
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| 09:55.28 | monkwitdafunk | Does anybody have some websites? I want debian to support what memtest86+ supports |
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| 09:57.20 | SynrG | With the lenovo superfish incident in the news, i think we have ample evidence that OSes installed by vendors can't be trusted and you should always install yourself |
| 09:57.45 | AberHatschi | +1 |
| 09:57.49 | monkwitdafunk | Really?! id build for myself anyways |
| 09:58.19 | monkwitdafunk | Sometimes not all the drivers are present for raid cards |
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| 09:58.45 | dgeary2 | https://paste.debian.net/158917/ - any ideas why an 'apt-get build-dep' or 'apt-get source' would fail for a particular package version? |
| 09:58.45 | SynrG | Then don't buy that hardware |
| 09:58.47 | monkwitdafunk | Sometimes ppl like what they want before NTP |
| 09:59.36 | alfatau_ | hello all. I've a debian-powered server with really fast/huge storage. It's common the paradigm Server(Hypervisor)/SAN using the iSCSI protocol to access to VMs disks which are store on the SAN. My question is: is it technically possible to configure such a SAN for booting operating systems from physical (not VM) machines, e.g. using PXE? |
| 09:59.44 | monkwitdafunk | Its good hardware that raid card i have |
| 10:00.45 | monkwitdafunk | You need dhcp serving capabilities |
| 10:00.48 | alfatau_ | as an example, a diskless laptop which boots from the debian-powered SAN |
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| 10:03.16 | monkwitdafunk | Netinstall solves my driver issue im sure but i like.my firewall set up before getting ntp |
| 10:04.00 | themill | dgeary2: the script makes the incorrect assumption that the binary package version is the same as the source package version |
| 10:04.07 | sakujo | hey, using jessie here so apologies for not being in #debian-next but the question applies to wheezy just as well. I want to RTFM about how to set up ALSA properly. My main goal is merely to change my default card,device to 0,3 (instead of 0,0). How on bloody earth is there no information about how to set up .asoundrc or /etc/asound.conf on *either* the ALSA documentation or Debian Wiki? |
| 10:04.14 | sakujo | I am sure I must be doing something wrong? |
| 10:04.33 | sakujo | I attempted to read through alsa-project wiki and it was a lesson on why people don't RTFM |
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| 10:04.53 | sakujo | seriously, the wiki is riddled with "TODO: What's this?" all over the place |
| 10:05.08 | dgeary2 | themill, thanks. any ideas on how to get the source package version for a particular binary package version? |
| 10:05.29 | sakujo | my issue is not having no clue where to find info on how to set up my default card:device, but am i missing some repository of documentation here? |
| 10:05.40 | thms | If you had a folder of 109Gb with thousands of files in it, and you want to back it up. What would be faster, scp'ing them right away (internet speed is not taken into account), or tar.gz'em and then scp'ing the .tgz file ? |
| 10:06.08 | sakujo | i actually *want* to rtfm here and not just find a blog post about how to achieve this with a linux distribution that is close and recent enough to my jessie |
| 10:06.38 | SynrG | sakujo: so now you got that off your chest, yes the alsa wiki is where i look for that |
| 10:06.52 | sakujo | i am not missing any documentations? |
| 10:07.02 | sakujo | something that might be only in /usr/ or sth like that? |
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| 10:07.17 | dgeary2 | thms, rsync? |
| 10:07.42 | SynrG | !default alsa |
| 10:07.42 | dpkg | Use the /etc/asound.conf or ~/.asoundrc configuration files to set your default sound card. See http://alsa.opensrc.org/MultipleCards for more information. You can also configure it in pavucontrol if you are using PulseAudio. |
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| 10:07.51 | sakujo | i suppose it is up to me to update alsa wiki then |
| 10:08.26 | themill | dgeary2: there should be no need to specify the version -- there would normally only be one version of the source package and binary package(s) in the suite; if there happened to be more than one, the it would be the newest version that the binary packages were built out of. |
| 10:08.29 | sakujo | why does dpkg bot seem to be the answer to most my questions |
| 10:08.31 | thms | dgeary2, scp or rsync, I just meant copying, why, rsync is faster ? |
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| 10:09.54 | sakujo | damn SynrG, that info is exactly the one i could not find and wished I understood where people find these within 1-2 minutes |
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| 10:10.13 | SynrG | sakujo: experience |
| 10:10.15 | sakujo | i suppose my thanks and envy |
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| 10:10.23 | SynrG | np |
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| 10:10.48 | sakujo | at least i was on the opensrc wiki but finding the info under "MultipleCards" came unexpected |
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| 10:12.30 | sakujo | ooooh dpkg bot is self-learning? |
| 10:13.23 | SynrG | We have to explicitly tell it |
| 10:13.57 | dgeary2 | thms, rsync has a feature (compare-dest, copy-dest, link-dest) which speeds up subsequent backups by not copying files that haven't changed |
| 10:14.20 | thms | Everything has changed |
| 10:14.28 | thms | It doesn't exist, yet. |
| 10:14.35 | thms | Whatever, turns out it's only 50Gb |
| 10:14.40 | thms | tar cpzvf'ing it |
| 10:14.54 | thms | than at 1gpbs shouldn't take too long to upload :D |
| 10:15.10 | dgeary2 | thms, how often are you going to back it up? |
| 10:15.19 | thms | dgeary2, just this one time |
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| 10:15.48 | thms | I'm freelancing, it's just not my job to do their backups |
| 10:16.17 | dgeary2 | ok |
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| 10:16.55 | thms | thanks for your advice dgeary2 :) I'd have used rsync in a cronjob if it was going to be regular syncing / backing up :) |
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| 10:25.28 | sakujo | apparently AUDIODEV environment variable is used to "Choose the sound card / device for SDL play-back" (para-phrased). Is this limited to SDL apps? How does it relate to either overriding "default" in asound.rc or to set a default card and device in /etc/asound.conf? |
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| 10:27.08 | vlt | Hello. I have an older Debian machine which crashed (after its mdraid rebuild scheduled by cron for every first Sunday). Now several things don't work. /bin/ls, for example: http://paste.debian.net/158927/ Any idea how to fix this? |
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| 10:27.31 | sakujo | it really seems AUDIODEV is specific to SDL |
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| 10:35.14 | valdyn | sakujo: asoundrc specifies your audio devices. AUDIODEV makes SDL use a specific one of those |
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| 10:37.03 | techouse | I'm just curious. are any of you using any web-based server monitoring tools? |
| 10:37.21 | valdyn | techouse: there is ones that are not web-based? |
| 10:37.41 | valdyn | techouse: the "big" ones are all web based afaict |
| 10:37.44 | vlt | was wondering too |
| 10:37.50 | techouse | well....pulseway has an app as well |
| 10:37.54 | techouse | i'm using that one |
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| 10:38.09 | valdyn | techouse: the reference is probably nagios still |
| 10:38.17 | techouse | and it's working REALLY well for notifications & stuff |
| 10:38.33 | techouse | but yea, at the moment i'm using munin and it kinda sucks |
| 10:38.41 | techouse | will give naigos a shot |
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| 10:38.53 | valdyn | techouse: not so fast... |
| 10:39.15 | techouse | i'm just setting up the server basically |
| 10:39.33 | techouse | installed munin 10 min ago ans saw that it's the same thing it was years ago |
| 10:39.44 | techouse | would be nice if it was running on node or something |
| 10:39.55 | techouse | moar live info & stuff |
| 10:40.25 | Fusl | is there someone else having a problem using cdn.debian.net as source? i get 404 on apparently all urls on this server on all of my servers when i do apt-get update |
| 10:40.26 | techouse | i.e. a node.js app not plain old perl/php |
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| 10:40.39 | dgeary2 | vlt, restore from backup? please tell more about your raid configuration. cat /proc/mdstat |
| 10:42.24 | vlt | dgeary2: The raid look fine on paper: http://paste.debian.net/158936/ |
| 10:42.28 | valdyn | techouse: maybe you want to try icinga2. It's not based on nagios, but it can use nagios plugins. |
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| 10:42.59 | vlt | valdyn: AFAIK icinga _is_ a nagios fork, isn't it? |
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| 10:43.10 | valdyn | vlt: yea, but icinga2 is not |
| 10:43.19 | vlt | valdyn: Aah, ok. |
| 10:43.47 | valdyn | techouse: im monitoring 3 servers with icinga - and i dont know icinga2, but i just found it. |
| 10:44.09 | techouse | ? |
| 10:44.16 | techouse | is v2 so different? |
| 10:44.52 | techouse | ah...wait just read above, sry |
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| 10:45.14 | techouse | will look into it |
| 10:46.09 | dgeary2 | vlt, so you are using a mirror configuration. you could try accessing each component of the mirror separately, to see if one of them has a valid /bin/ls |
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| 10:47.15 | dgeary2 | make sure not to change anything though (use read only option when mounting) |
| 10:47.58 | techouse | debmon.org <-- NICE! |
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| 10:50.53 | sakujo | I could not find any official info on ALSA docs about this but unofficially I hope I am up to speed. I want to understand the differences between PCM and CTL in ALSA config. I know PCM in physics and suppose an ALSA-PCM would be something abstract that can output audio. And CTL, is that really 100% restricted to controlling **VOLUME**? |
| 10:52.02 | sakujo | i suppose ctl = volume only seems to be consistent with google nvm the question |
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| 10:52.42 | vlt | dgeary2: Ok, thank you. |
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| 10:57.36 | sakujo | holy cow why is alsa writing Nvidia as NVidia |
| 10:58.03 | vlt | dgeary2: To fix this I ran `aptitude reinstall libacl...`. Worked but complained some .so files of libatm having a corrupt ELF header. After reinstalling them: no complaint anymore. |
| 10:58.21 | vlt | Is there a way to aptititude reinstall everything? |
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| 10:58.34 | vlt | -ti |
| 11:00.31 | sakujo | Replacing the 0 in >>>defaults.ctl.card 0<<< with NVidia, "NVidia", 'NVidia' yields ALSA lib conf.c:1028:(parse_value) card is not a string |
| 11:00.38 | dgeary2 | vlt, yes. you may have to write a short script for it. 'dpkg-query -l' lists installed packages. |
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| 11:01.11 | vlt | dgeary2: Ok, I think I'll try this. |
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| 11:05.17 | dgeary2 | vlt, https://joshua.hoblitt.com/rtfm/2014/03/how_to_force_a_sync_or_repair_check_of_mdadm_arrays/ |
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| 11:42.44 | no_gravity | Hello! Anybody here using debian on a tablet? |
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| 11:46.02 | RDash | no_gravity, I use it on my chrome book :P |
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| 11:46.07 | RDash | if that counts :P |
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| 11:47.13 | no_gravity | hmm.. if it has a non removable keyboard, i would say its a laptop, not a tablet. |
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| 11:49.31 | MY123 | no_gravity, I use Debian on my tablet and it's really nice with KDE Plasma |
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| 11:50.29 | no_gravity | MY123: well, you said you run something you built yourself :) |
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| 11:51.14 | MY123 | no_gravity: There is not a "default" Debian for ARM consumer devices |
| 11:51.32 | no_gravity | well, it does not have to be arm. |
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| 11:52.38 | MY123 | no_gravity: nearly all the tablets are ARM or are Windows 8.1 x32 shit, not supported by GNU/Linux |
| 11:53.25 | no_gravity | a tablet is just form factor. why would debian stop working if a computer has a detachable keyboard. |
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| 11:54.31 | MY123 | no_gravity: Hybrid tablets? |
| 11:54.32 | sakujo | i installed libsdl1.2-dev yet when i try to configure ZSNES i get a AM_PATH_SDL(1.2.0,,AC_MSG_ERROR(SDL >= 1.2.0 is required)) |
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| 11:54.58 | Raydiation | is the http://cdn.debian.net/debian/ mirror down? |
| 11:55.03 | no_gravity | This one has an "i5 core" cpu. Maybe debian would just run out of the box? http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00HZQLBWI |
| 11:55.11 | themill | Raydiation: yes, use http.debian.net instead |
| 11:55.17 | Raydiation | ty |
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| 11:57.08 | MY123 | no_gravity, it depends if it runs 32 or 64bit windows by default |
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| 11:57.46 | no_gravity | MY123: that one runs 64 bit |
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| 11:58.11 | MY123 | no_gravity: You should be able to run GNU on it |
| 11:58.33 | MY123 | (/Linux or /KfreeBSD) |
| 11:58.56 | no_gravity | MY123: but will debian support the touchscreen etc out of the box? |
| 11:59.29 | MY123 | no_gravity, Debian does not try to support touchscreens by default |
| 11:59.51 | MY123 | {as most of them are requiring firmware} |
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| 12:03.56 | no_gravity | MY123: hmm... i wonder when it will. |
| 12:04.31 | MY123 | no_gravity: Ask to HP to release the FULL SOURCE CODE |
| 12:04.55 | MY123 | no_gravity, or use a true tablet from "good" manufacturers |
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| 12:05.28 | no_gravity | MY123: debian supports touch on some tablets? |
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| 12:06.04 | MY123 | no_gravity: On some which are respecting the USB HID touch spec |
| 12:06.13 | MY123 | (not so much nowadays) |
| 12:06.31 | no_gravity | MY123: interesting. which one? |
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| 12:06.55 | MY123 | no_gravity: old Windows XP touch tabs |
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| 12:11.03 | no_gravity | hmm... old sounds bad :) |
| 12:11.44 | no_gravity | ok, gotta go. thanks for the nice talk! |
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| 12:19.43 | BackEndCoder | mornging |
| 12:19.49 | BackEndCoder | had the niggling issue for a while |
| 12:20.00 | BackEndCoder | i had my little mouse bg for debian laptop for ages# |
| 12:20.22 | BackEndCoder | i used ARandR |
| 12:20.37 | BackEndCoder | and its its a werild split of the dbian 8 logo |
| 12:20.49 | BackEndCoder | every setting i look at doesn't seem to change it |
| 12:21.03 | BackEndCoder | i would guess its something to with ANandR |
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| 12:42.29 | Raazeer | hi all, where can I find a reference sources.list for jessie? |
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| 12:43.04 | themill | dpkg: tell Raazeer about jessie sources.list |
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| 12:44.41 | AberHatschi | Raazeer, http://debgen.simplylinux.ch maybe it helps |
| 12:46.17 | Raazeer | AberHatschi, themill thanks that helps a bit. |
| 12:47.07 | themill | no, please don't use debgen |
| 12:47.45 | Raazeer | themill, I don't intend to unquestioningly copy anything a web generator threw out into my sources.list, don't worry. |
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| 12:48.28 | themill | sadly lots of people do, and that website is crap |
| 12:48.50 | Raazeer | themill, maybe I should mention that I'm not exactly a debian freshie ;) |
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| 12:49.44 | Raazeer | but you are right of course to warn, somebody is bound to take everything at face value and botch his system. |
| 12:49.49 | AberHatschi | themill, whats wrong on this list ? http://paste.debian.net/158948 |
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| 12:50.31 | Raazeer | AberHatschi, I think themill refers to the stuff on the right side, with all the extra goodies. |
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| 12:50.36 | themill | AberHatschi: mixing "jessie-updates" and "testing" is wrong and will lead to tears |
| 12:51.05 | themill | Raazeer: it also generates logically inconsistent sources.list files (like the one in the paste) and ones with completely bogus entries. |
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| 12:53.18 | Raazeer | themill, ok, logically inconsistent? what's inconsistent about it, I can't spot? |
| 12:53.31 | themill | mixing "jessie-updates" and "testing" is wrong |
| 12:53.34 | SynrGy | jessie will always be jessie |
| 12:53.39 | Raazeer | ah, sorry, missed that. |
| 12:53.41 | SynrGy | testing will at some point be not-jessie |
| 12:53.54 | Raazeer | you're right, that _will_ cause trouble down the road... |
| 12:54.29 | AberHatschi | it was a sample |
| 12:54.42 | themill | AberHatschi: it's a good example of how debgen gets it wrong all the time |
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| 12:56.22 | Raazeer | ok, I've got a problem here: I see libjpeg-dev as type p, a guy I've been talking to sees it as virtual package. |
| 12:56.44 | Raazeer | also I've got conflicts he aparently hasn't, can you tell me why that might be? |
| 12:57.10 | Raazeer | we're both on jessie, but with different servers. |
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| 12:58.48 | AberHatschi | themill, well we've talked about |
| 12:58.50 | themill | libjpeg is messily stuck between two different packages |
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| 12:59.46 | themill | Raazeer: it's both a real package and also provided by libjpeg62-turbo-dev |
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| 13:03.28 | Raazeer | themill, have a look at this, any ideas how to unravel that? pastebin.com/mrKxRD3h |
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| 13:04.59 | Raazeer | themill, it's from a script, so there is always the possibility that it is just plain nonsensical. |
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| 13:15.24 | CutMeOwnThroat | monkwitdafunk, looks like you're requesting two different packages that fulfil the same role and hence conflict |
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| 13:19.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | i.e. you cannot have libjpeg-dev, which is from libjpeg-turbo AND libjpeg8-dev, which is from/depends on libjpeg8 |
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| 13:23.08 | Raazeer | CutMeOwnThroat, did you mean me with that? |
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| 13:24.02 | CutMeOwnThroat | oops |
| 13:24.17 | CutMeOwnThroat | Raazeer, yes... you, not monkwitdafunk ... |
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| 13:25.16 | Raazeer | CutMeOwnThroat, I guess that makes the script just plain wrong. |
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| 13:26.23 | CutMeOwnThroat | Raazeer, oh, and I was looking it up on my wheezy machine... dependencies might have changed with jessie (although I doubt it, what I see fits the bits you've shown) |
| 13:26.48 | CutMeOwnThroat | Raazeer, you can also install one of them and then do aptitude why-not <package> for the other... and hopefully aptitude will tell you they conflict |
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| 13:27.18 | CutMeOwnThroat | Raazeer, or you can do what I did... just run "apt-cache show" on the packages in question and compare their "Conflicts" lines |
| 13:27.20 | Raazeer | CutMeOwnThroat, that's very unlikely, since that was precisely the reason I upgraded from wheezy to jessie. |
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| 13:27.49 | Raazeer | and it does tell me they conflict as it is, doesn't it? |
| 13:28.07 | CutMeOwnThroat | it tells me that on wheezy |
| 13:28.31 | Raazeer | specifically it says libjpeg8-dev provides libjpeg-dev, whereas libjpeg-dev says it requires libjpeg62-turbo-dev which in turn provides it. |
| 13:28.43 | Raazeer | bit of a punchy setup if you ask me. |
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| 13:30.54 | Raazeer | funny thing is, some people report having all three installed. |
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| 13:43.12 | Peete | Hello! |
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| 13:43.49 | Raazeer | Hi Peete |
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| 13:45.50 | bller | Mornin |
| 13:45.53 | mprelude | Hi, have a Macbook Air, looking for a USB ethernet adapter which I can do a Debian install on. Can anyone help me identify a USB ethernet adapter that just works with the drivers available to the installer CD? |
| 13:46.17 | mprelude | (or USB wifi) |
| 13:47.03 | mprelude | Not having ethernet port or DVD drive is more annoying than it sounds. |
| 13:47.55 | Peete | I have a rendering problem for the fonts Helvetica and Helvetica Neue : http://a.pomf.se/doesec.png . I have found this thread, but it only works on Arch : https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=116086 and I don't know the Debian equivalent of "pacman -R xorg-fonts-75dpi xorg-fonts-100dpi" . So, help please ? Thanks in advance. |
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| 13:50.22 | SynrG | Peete: i didn't read the links but it sounds like removal of X fonts. That seems a strange workaround |
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| 13:51.07 | Peete | Yeah... |
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| 13:51.37 | SynrG | And seems likely it's not applicable to your issue |
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| 13:54.16 | Peete | Could it come from Firefox ? Like, smoothing not enabled ? |
| 13:55.51 | themill | I'll confess I'm never quite sure what to look for in the questions that go "Here's a screenshot how do I fix the fonts". It always just looks like a picture of text to me... |
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| 13:57.12 | SynrG | You could try different browsers to see if it's browser specific |
| 13:57.31 | SynrG | e.g. chromium |
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| 14:32.24 | netan | hi all, what kind of alternatives do I have if I want to build native HTML desktop applications for debian ? |
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| 14:33.56 | netan | I know about http://nwjs.io but maybe there are some alternatives ? |
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| 14:40.25 | sterns | Hello, I'm running Jessie 64bit I believe that until recently, USB sticks were mounting under /media/<user>/<name> and had rw permissions for <user>. Lately, I am observing that USB sticks are being mounted in /media/<name> and have ro permissions. |
| 14:40.49 | sterns | Is there a setting for this? Also, I'm running Gnome. |
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| 14:42.32 | spal | I see that running `git commit` launches nano editor on my system (Debian Jessie). I want to know where in the system is the default editor defined that git commit seems to be using? |
| 14:42.55 | SynrGy | spal: probably sensible-editor |
| 14:43.15 | sterns | spal: there is a way to set the editor... checking |
| 14:43.21 | SynrGy | and that probably depends on the alternatives system |
| 14:43.51 | SynrGy | there's also 'select-editor' |
| 14:44.02 | sterns | http://git-scm.com/book/en/v2/Customizing-Git-Git-Configuration |
| 14:44.05 | SynrGy | you could change it system-wide via alternatives, or per-user with select-editor |
| 14:44.17 | SynrGy | but customizing it for git-only is probably not what most users want |
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| 14:44.28 | SynrGy | they want an editor they prefer to use for everything |
| 14:44.50 | spal | SynrGy: I want to set vim as my default editor for everything |
| 14:45.11 | SynrGy | so as I said, see the sensible-editor and select-editor man pages |
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| 14:46.06 | SynrGy | hmm. interesting ... |
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| 14:46.15 | SynrGy | update-alternatives --display editor |
| 14:46.44 | SynrGy | not sure why sensible-editor isn't listed as an alternative :/ |
| 14:47.06 | spal | I see two ways to change the default editor: select-editor; update-alternatives --config editor. What's the difference between the two? |
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| 14:48.18 | SynrGy | sigh. #397050 |
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| 14:48.55 | SynrGy | tagged wontfix over four years ago with no explanation |
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| 14:49.24 | SynrGy | spal: there are two environment variables: EDITOR and VISUAL ... |
| 14:49.36 | SynrGy | you can use those to configure per-user. |
| 14:49.56 | SynrGy | unfortunately, sensible-editor is *not* in the alternatives system as per #397050, so what I had imagined is not possible |
| 14:50.11 | SynrGy | update-alternatives does provide 'editor', however |
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| 14:50.40 | SynrGy | but that doesn't give you any ability to customize per user |
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| 14:51.21 | SynrGy | spal: so to sum up, just use EDITOR and VISUAL to choose your preferred text editor and visual editor, per user. |
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| 14:51.52 | SynrGy | most things should obey those choices. |
| 14:52.09 | SynrGy | (git, visudo, etc.) |
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| 14:54.19 | garotosopa | I created a package FOO using checkinstall, and set it to "replace" package BAR. I installed FOO successfully, but system packages that depend on BAR don't have its dependency resolved by FOO. Should this be expected at all? |
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| 14:56.18 | spal | SynrGy: I updated the default editor using: update-alternatives --config editor |
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| 14:57.03 | SynrGy | that's assuming git uses 'editor'. not sure if it does |
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| 14:57.25 | SynrGy | (or that EDITOR=editor by default, and i'm not sure of that, either) |
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| 15:18.34 | valdyn | garotosopa: yes |
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| 15:18.54 | valdyn | garotosopa: if you want that FOO package to supply bar then it needs that in Provides: |
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| 15:20.11 | CutMeOwnThroat | there's never enough bar :( |
| 15:20.32 | garotosopa | valdyn, I tried Replaces: BAR or Provides: BAR, but another system package still asks to install BAR even with my FOO package installed. |
| 15:21.11 | garotosopa | valdyn, and aptitude correcly reports that FOO provides BAR. |
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| 15:21.43 | garotosopa | Do you have any suggestion on how I can debug this? |
| 15:21.55 | CutMeOwnThroat | what package is that? |
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| 15:22.19 | jaggz | why cases me to try to start at boot free I've removed it and removed the line in mdadm.conf |
| 15:22.27 | jaggz | mdadm.conf |
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| 15:22.43 | mprelude | Hi, have a Macbook Air, looking for a USB ethernet adapter which I can do a Debian install on. Can anyone help me identify a USB ethernet adapter that just works with the drivers available to the installer CD? |
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| 15:22.54 | jaggz | causes.. grrr.. |
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| 15:23.44 | garotosopa | CutMeOwnThroat, I created libxfce4util (4.12) and set it to replace libxfce4util4,libxfce4util-bin,libxfce4util-common. Then packages like exo-utils that originally depends on libxfce4util4 is not satisfied with my libxfce4util package. |
| 15:23.54 | jaggz | what the heck.. samsung tablet keyboard is finicky |
| 15:24.46 | jaggz | what causes the system to try to start md0 when it's been removed? |
| 15:25.42 | CutMeOwnThroat | garotosopa, these depend on a version >= xxx could it be that your "Provides" doesn't fit that version requirement somehow? |
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| 15:26.05 | techouse | damn it... i've set up icinga2 and icingaweb2 and in the web ui it says icinga is not running :/ but the daemon is running |
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| 15:27.08 | garotosopa | CutMeOwnThroat, I'll check it out. If that's the case, do you by any chance know the syntax to checkinstall to specify the version it provides? |
| 15:28.23 | jaggz | I was migrating my array to a larger partition setup, so I failed a partition, resized that one and made md1 on it, copied everything to it, then killed the original md0 |
| 15:29.10 | jaggz | it's a two drive mirror.. but my partitions were only half the size of the drives |
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| 15:34.52 | CutMeOwnThroat | garotosopa, I'm not sure there are versions on the provides... it just seems to me that a version specified would need to be tested by apt... and I am not sure how that would interact with a Provides:XXX that doesn't have a version ... I've not really ventured down that path of making own packages with "provides" replacing other functionality... |
| 15:35.21 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, versions libxfce4util4 |
| 15:35.23 | judd | Package: libxfce4util4 on i386 -- squeeze: 4.6.2-1; wheezy: 4.8.2-1 |
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| 15:36.19 | CutMeOwnThroat | garotosopa, I think it would be easier/cleaner if you used the existing Debian package and updated the software contained to a new version ... |
| 15:37.32 | garotosopa | CutMeOwnThroat, yeah I had considered that, maybe I should have went with it. |
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| 15:38.13 | garotosopa | CutMeOwnThroat, I'll probably end up compiling/packaging everything related to XFCE anyway, so that unresolved dependency will not be a problem. We'll see. |
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| 15:38.40 | garotosopa | CutMeOwnThroat, Thanks. |
| 15:38.53 | dayten | "/format own_msg {ownmsgnick $2 {ownnick $[-9]0}}$1" |
| 15:39.09 | dayten | sorry, wrong window |
| 15:40.16 | CutMeOwnThroat | garotosopa, this makes for some interesting reading: apt-cache show . | grep Provides: | less |
| 15:41.28 | CutMeOwnThroat | guess would need to check with an existing Depends: xxx (>=version) and a Provides: xxx case to see how that stuff is handled in detail |
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| 15:42.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | garotosopa, obvious way to debug would be to search a working case from the Debian repos with a similar case and Provides: and then check if you can "Provide:" the same thing in a self-made package and what you're possibly doing differently.. .just not sure that isn't more effort than updating the debian package(s) |
| 15:43.16 | garotosopa | The packages I see a reference to version numbers in that grep are the ones named like this, specially virtual packages, like debconf-2.0. |
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| 16:35.14 | Tau | olaaa |
| 16:35.17 | Tau | i mean. |
| 16:35.20 | Tau | helloo |
| 16:35.35 | Tau | holy christ. |
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| 16:35.39 | Tau | i forgot what i was going to ask. |
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| 16:51.05 | kalekip1 | Hey |
| 16:51.22 | kalekip1 | Is i389 always 32-bit? |
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| 16:51.39 | kalekip1 | Should I get the amd64 version if I want 64-bit? |
| 16:51.55 | loop3r | hey, have you used rEFInd with lvm ? |
| 16:51.57 | syco_ | yep |
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| 16:52.03 | mns | kalekip1: yes for amd64 if you want 64-bit |
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| 16:52.45 | mns | kalekip1: I take it you meant i386 not i389. Presuming that, yes i386 is always 32-bit. |
| 16:53.41 | loop3r | can rEFInd boot with /boot on some LVM partition ? |
| 16:53.48 | kalekip1 | mns: Oh, yea... 6 not 9 :p |
| 16:54.21 | mns | well you've got your answers than :) |
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| 16:56.23 | kalekip1 | So I downloaded debian-7.8.0-amd64-CD-1.iso. That´s the correct one, right? |
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| 16:57.19 | Aenigma | /see/wc |
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| 16:57.31 | kalekip1 | From Ubuntu, I tried to use Startup Disk Creator and apparently it didn´t work: my PC didn´t detect it as a live USB. Now I am trying with LiLi USB Creator and it says ¨This Linux is not in the compatibility list. ...¨ |
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| 16:58.39 | polyphagia | kalekip1: what distro are you on? |
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| 16:58.49 | kalekip1 | polyphagia: Now I am on Windows 7. |
| 16:58.52 | polyphagia | that's not the correct one for burning to a usb |
| 16:59.20 | polyphagia | https://www.debian.org/distrib/netinst |
| 16:59.22 | kalekip1 | polyphagia: Which one do I need then? I want Debian 7.8 (gnome 3) x64 |
| 16:59.24 | polyphagia | you should probably use netinst of possible |
| 16:59.28 | polyphagia | if* |
| 16:59.46 | polyphagia | yeah gnome 3 is the default DE |
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| 17:00.55 | polyphagia | on windows you can use http://www.pendrivelinux.com/universal-usb-installer-easy-as-1-2-3/#button |
| 17:01.25 | kalekip1 | polyphagia: What has netinst to do with live USB´s? :S |
| 17:01.50 | polyphagia | because the full gnome 3 version of debian is multiple DVDs |
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| 17:02.40 | kalekip1 | polyphagia: Alright, will try. |
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| 17:08.34 | rapha | Hi! |
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| 17:09.29 | kalekip1 | rapha: hi |
| 17:10.40 | kalekip1 | polyphagia: It took ridiculously long for a 246 MB file. I´ll try it now. I probably won´t come back soon if it will work. Either way, thanks. |
| 17:10.55 | polyphagia | kalekip1: the torrent is usually faster |
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| 17:11.04 | kalekip1 | polyphagia: Yes, 4 MB/s |
| 17:11.18 | polyphagia | that's faster than my net lol |
| 17:11.19 | kalekip1 | polyphagia: it was the preparation for the live usb which took so long |
| 17:11.23 | kalekip1 | :p |
| 17:11.28 | polyphagia | oh |
| 17:11.32 | kalekip1 | cya |
| 17:11.35 | polyphagia | cya |
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| 17:32.18 | srg | I need something other than vim :-\ |
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| 17:32.46 | polyphagia | gedit has all of those |
| 17:32.53 | srg | Thanks |
| 17:33.14 | digdilem | srg, I like Jed |
| 17:33.19 | d3lphi | hello all. I just have installed Jessie on my new notebook and I have an issue with "Remmina" where I cannot show the toolbar on the top center of the screen when in fullscreen within a RDP session. Any help appreciated |
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| 17:33.39 | d3lphi | how can I troubleshoot that or find a fix for that? is this a known bug or am I missing anyting? |
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| 17:48.47 | sine0 | how can i run exim in debug mode when i start it with /etc/init.d/exim4 start |
| 17:49.02 | sine0 | ahh |
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| 17:53.40 | spal | Why do full fledged binaries of software like iceweasel, java, etc. get installed in /usr/lib? As per FHS, /usr/lib is meant for libraries and /usr/bin for binaries. |
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| 17:57.34 | mprelude | Hi, have a Macbook Air, looking for a USB ethernet adapter which I can do a Debian install on. Can anyone help me identify a USB ethernet adapter that just works with the drivers available to the installer CD? |
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| 18:08.57 | trampel | trivia question: why/how do some (older?) memory sticks mount only on a root partition ("/dev/sdb") while most others mount only on the first ("/dev/sdb1")? |
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| 18:11.56 | Tau | i'm mounting a usb storage with |
| 18:12.10 | Tau | mount -t usbfs -o rw /dev/sdb /media/usb |
| 18:12.25 | Tau | it mounts the point but when i try to copy files onto /media/usb it says permission denied. |
| 18:12.31 | Tau | it worked in the past with other usb storage. |
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| 18:14.59 | jhutchins | Tau: Check to see how it's mounted, check permissions on the mount point. |
| 18:15.17 | SynrGy | Tau: why use usbfs vs the alternatives, by the way? |
| 18:15.26 | jhutchins | Tau: Also, if it's a *nix filesystem you need permissions on the filesystem. |
| 18:15.35 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:15.40 | Tau | it is a debian system. |
| 18:15.43 | Tau | i mean |
| 18:15.45 | Tau | i'm running debian. |
| 18:15.47 | SynrGy | fat, for example. or ext4 |
| 18:15.50 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:15.55 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:15.56 | SynrGy | fat is usual |
| 18:16.04 | SynrGy | do you need large file support? |
| 18:16.19 | SynrGy | is the key used with non-debian systems too? |
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| 18:16.39 | Tau | when i try ext4 it says no medium point. |
| 18:16.45 | SynrGy | and in fact, did you put a usbfs filesystem on it? |
| 18:16.52 | fernie | Tau: check /etc/fstab if there are lines with "user" option for sdb1. If not for sdb, then that might explain |
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| 18:17.04 | SynrGy | normally you don't need to specify -t at all |
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| 18:17.10 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:17.11 | SynrGy | the filesystem is autodetected and mounted |
| 18:17.12 | nezZario | Hey folks |
| 18:17.19 | Tau | trying to copy files onto /media/usb as root but it fails. |
| 18:17.34 | SynrGy | Tau: how was the key formatted? |
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| 18:17.46 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:17.54 | Tau | i checked kern.log. |
| 18:17.58 | Tau | it appears on sdb. |
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| 18:18.14 | Tau | then i mount with that command. |
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| 18:18.16 | nezZario | I'm going to try to move my current setup to a RAID1 setup. Currently I have a small 80GB sata drive and I'm trying to move it to a 2x1TB setup .. I read somewhere in some tutorial that mdadm will know to store 1/2 of swap on one drive and 1/2 of the swap on the other drive -- is this fairly automatic when I mark them in swap in fdisk ? |
| 18:18.21 | Tau | it mounts but i cant write onto /media/usb. |
| 18:18.22 | SynrGy | Tau: how is the USB storage (sometimes known as USB keys) formatted? |
| 18:18.28 | Tau | oh |
| 18:18.35 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:18.43 | SynrGy | Tau: is it brand new? |
| 18:18.43 | Tau | i bought it from a store. |
| 18:18.47 | Tau | it is new. |
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| 18:18.54 | SynrGy | it has a fat filesystem, then. you don't need to force any filesystem |
| 18:19.00 | Tau | i see. |
| 18:19.01 | valdyn | nezZario: its raid1, so of course 50% is stored on each drive |
| 18:19.01 | SynrGy | or else is just blank |
| 18:19.02 | Tau | i guess so. |
| 18:19.09 | Tau | when i try fat it says no filesystem type fat. |
| 18:19.11 | abrotman | nezZario: if you create two swap partitions, the subsystem will "raid0" the swap and stripe across both of them |
| 18:19.13 | Tau | what is the correct command |
| 18:19.14 | Tau | ? |
| 18:19.20 | Tau | mount -t fat -o rw /dev/sdb /media/usb |
| 18:19.24 | SynrGy | Tau: fat comes in different kinds. anyway, you don't need to guess |
| 18:19.25 | valdyn | nezZario: however the better solution is, most likely, to use to partitions, each not on a raid |
| 18:19.25 | Tau | how would that be? |
| 18:19.32 | SynrGy | as i said, you don't need any -t anything |
| 18:19.52 | Tau | okay |
| 18:19.55 | Tau | so i'll remove the -t |
| 18:19.55 | SynrGy | either it has a filesystem on it, or it doesn't |
| 18:19.58 | Tau | then leave the fat, right? |
| 18:20.02 | SynrGy | no |
| 18:20.14 | day | when im trying to connect to my server via ssh i suddenly get an error message. permission denied (publickey) http://dpaste.com/2BM0ECK |
| 18:20.25 | Tau | mount -o rw /dev/sdb /media/usb |
| 18:20.26 | day | i changed nothing :/ |
| 18:20.29 | Tau | says no medium point anyway. |
| 18:20.35 | SynrGy | yes |
| 18:20.35 | nezZario | valdyn: why is that a better solution? |
| 18:20.38 | SynrGy | do you have a directory called /media/usb? |
| 18:20.39 | nezZario | I mean I guess it is more simple |
| 18:20.44 | valdyn | nezZario: its faster |
| 18:20.56 | valdyn | nezZario: but then again, its also less safe, breaks when just 1 disk breaks |
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| 18:21.10 | day | the ironic part is im still able to connect to it if i route the ssh thorugh a icmp tunnel just fine |
| 18:21.11 | SynrGy | Tau: just check something for me. ls -l /dev/disk/by-id/ |
| 18:21.21 | SynrGy | Tau: see all the entries matching sdb or sdb# |
| 18:21.34 | SynrGy | are there any part# entries? |
| 18:21.38 | nezZario | Well if the swap partition was being used I don't see how it wouldn't break the system if the disk fails |
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| 18:22.02 | nezZario | I guess the OS would just kill the processes ? |
| 18:22.28 | Tau | hold on |
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| 18:22.41 | SynrGy | Tau: i can't guess how the manufacturer may have formatted it (if it was formatted at all). if it has partitions, you would need to mount the partition, not the whole drive |
| 18:23.42 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
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| 18:24.05 | Tau | but it fails though |
| 18:24.06 | Tau | http://codepad.org/OpNZpcMS |
| 18:24.08 | Tau | that is what i got. |
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| 18:25.32 | SynrGy | Tau: fat or empty |
| 18:25.41 | SynrGy | Tau: in any case, do you have a mountpoint called /media/usb? |
| 18:25.52 | SynrGy | Tau: ls l /media/usb- |
| 18:26.04 | SynrGy | argh |
| 18:26.09 | SynrGy | Tau: ls -l /media/usb |
| 18:26.24 | SynrGy | something was seriously frigged there. that's not what i typed :) (the first one) |
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| 18:26.51 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:26.55 | Tau | i have a /media/usb. |
| 18:27.02 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 18:27.27 | SynrGy | just check if it has a filesystem on it: dd if=/dev/sdb count=1 2>&1 | file - |
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| 18:32.23 | Deicide34 | Hello, I am searching for free open-source alternative to flash player. I have tried Gnash and Lightspark from Debian Wheezy repos, but none of them work the way I need them to. |
| 18:32.55 | SynrGy | Tau: here's some example output showing a freshly formatted 16G SD card: http://paste.debian.net/159002/ |
| 18:32.58 | srg | Deicide34: I haven't found a good alternative either. |
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| 18:33.17 | SynrGy | Tau: if there is not, in fact, any filesystem on it, it might show something like 'data' instead. |
| 18:33.18 | srg | Deicide34: I eventually gave up and just avoid sites that use flash. I use html5 for video (it's starting to catch on) |
| 18:33.19 | valdyn | Deicide34: theres no alternative, there's only websites that offer alternative formats |
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| 18:33.48 | SynrGy | Tau: so then you need to put one on it. If you're going to use fat, just 'mkdosfs /dev/sdb' would do it |
| 18:34.05 | SynrGy | Tau: if you need bigfile support, you'll need something other than fat. |
| 18:34.09 | Deicide34 | Ok, I think you I too wil start avoiding flash completely. |
| 18:34.27 | Deicide34 | thank you* |
| 18:34.34 | srg | Deicide34: Unfortunately, that's what happens with propriatary software like flash |
| 18:34.43 | srg | But avoiding flash isn't as bad as you may think |
| 18:35.22 | Deicide34 | srg: yes, no harm going without it so far, I guess |
| 18:35.40 | SynrGy | html5 should be good enough ... |
| 18:36.19 | SynrGy | unfortunately, there are some sites that ought to know better, but still use flash (*cough*CBC*cough* and to deliver *audio* streams, too. yuck.) |
| 18:36.22 | Deicide34 | synrGy: Too bad, my computer is slow, that is a bad alternative for me |
| 18:36.46 | SynrGy | Deicide34: any system too slow to do html5 is too slow for flash |
| 18:37.01 | SynrGy | flash's render pipeline is notoriously heavy |
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| 18:37.59 | Deicide34 | It's fine, I guess. I'll deal without it. Thank you all for help. Too bad for gnash, though, :( |
| 18:39.10 | Deicide34 | I have tried minitube from the time I ran Ubuntu, I know it will be in repos by the time jessies goes stable. Good for Youtube |
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| 18:39.21 | SynrGy | Deicide34: i'm puzzled about your saying your computer is too slow for html5, though. with which browser? |
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| 18:39.26 | Deicide34 | I mean Lubuntu* |
| 18:39.46 | Deicide34 | Iceweasel |
| 18:39.56 | Deicide34 | from the debian stable repos |
| 18:40.14 | SynrGy | ,v iceweasel |
| 18:40.15 | judd | Package: iceweasel on i386 -- squeeze: 3.5.16-20; squeeze-security: 3.5.16-20; squeeze-backports: 10.0.12esr-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 31.3.0esr-1~deb7u1; wheezy-security: 31.5.0esr-1~deb7u1; sid: 31.5.0esr-1; jessie: 31.5.0esr-1; experimental: 36.0-2 |
| 18:40.22 | Deicide34 | I tried backported one, but decided to stick with older |
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| 18:40.29 | SynrGy | iceweasel 31, then? |
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| 18:40.47 | Deicide34 | y |
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| 18:41.06 | SynrGy | does it fail to use direct rendering then? |
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| 18:41.17 | SynrGy | that's the only way i can imagine it might be awful |
| 18:41.38 | Deicide34 | it renders too slowly and basically it's useless |
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| 18:42.12 | noron | hi guys. Why is there no bitcoin client in the wheezy-repository? |
| 18:42.28 | Deicide34 | will stick to no flash till jessie, and resort to minitube after |
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| 18:43.00 | SynrGy | Deicide34: yeah, on my super slow systems, i've used youtube-dl and downloaded some appropriate resolution so it doesn't kill the system ... |
| 18:43.19 | SynrGy | Deicide34: e.g. 1G RAM Eee PC model 701 (intel i915 chipset) |
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| 18:43.39 | SynrGy | flash is horrible on that platform, and html5 no better. |
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| 18:43.59 | SynrGy | but youtube-dl + vlc has been good for me |
| 18:44.17 | Deicide34 | synrgy: Mine is even weaker: Only 512 MB RAM with Celeron single core 3300 ;HZ |
| 18:44.21 | agentu03 | i want to install mate-desktop environment on a fresh install without a gui, but it's not in the repositories, i'm stuck in the command line |
| 18:45.10 | SynrGy | Deicide34: well, the CPU on that netbook is Celeron M, 900Mhz |
| 18:45.19 | n3lthon | I have a debian machine working as a router and everything works with ipv4 using masquerade behind my isp router. what are the options to get ipv6 behind the debian machine? I have a ipv6 /64 subnet on my router network. |
| 18:45.28 | SynrGy | Deicide34: the ram isn't the limiting factor. the i915 definitely is |
| 18:45.40 | SynrGy | (though 512M is barely enough to run iceweasel) |
| 18:45.59 | SynrGy | just don't have anything *else* running at the same time, and only one tab open :) |
| 18:46.04 | sydney_untangle | Hello all. I am trying to livestream my wecam over ssh but it is verrryyyy slow. I tried VLC but vlc crashes on streaming and no help on #videolan. |
| 18:46.04 | Deicide34 | @synrgy Yes, barely, hahahaha |
| 18:46.08 | SynrGy | and a very light desktop or plain WM |
| 18:46.09 | sydney_untangle | Any help please? |
| 18:46.14 | SynrGy | LXDE, openbox, etc. |
| 18:46.31 | SynrGy | Deicide34: anyway, my sympathies |
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| 18:48.24 | Deicide34 | I use LXDE, couldn't stand GNOME 3. Had Mint installed some time ago. It barely ran doing nothing, lol |
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| 18:48.46 | sydney_untangle | I3 is light enough :) |
| 18:49.06 | polyphagia | if you need a WM about as light as i3 but floating, try fluxbox too |
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| 18:49.15 | polyphagia | if you love XML configs, stick with openbox :P |
| 18:49.31 | sydney_untangle | enlightenment is light to, but not on the graphics card. |
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| 18:49.53 | polyphagia | i found enlightenment to be kind of gawdy |
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| 18:50.21 | Deicide34 | @sydney: nah, had fluxbox also while running Antix 13. It ran good enough. Was too ugly, though :D |
| 18:50.50 | Deicide34 | @poly: haha, yeah fluxbox was good |
| 18:51.02 | oznt | what allows my user to shutdown the computer (without sudo) ? how does mate-desktop decides whether to activate or to hide the shutdown menu? (when I run as root it's there) |
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| 18:52.19 | Deicide34 | @oznt I can shutdown as regular user. Don't use sudo with Debian, if you want my advice. And stickk to shell root login only when you need it. |
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| 18:53.05 | agentu03 | how can i add the repositories for the mate-desktop-environment? |
| 18:53.14 | Deicide34 | I had same problems with sudo before, couldn't shutdown or restart |
| 18:53.56 | oznt | Decicide34, I do stick to this, I am trying to understand how does it work. Why am I able to shut down as a normal user? |
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| 18:56.19 | Deicide34 | @oznt Ah, I though you have problems with shutting down. Don't know that really, I'm not expert. |
| 18:56.23 | Deicide34 | Sorry |
| 18:56.57 | Tau | jesus christ. |
| 18:57.02 | Tau | i cant mount it |
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| 19:01.59 | SynrGy | Tau: i gave advice above. did you follow? |
| 19:02.12 | SynrGy | Tau: i gave a command to determine if there's any filesystem on it. |
| 19:02.22 | SynrGy | Tau: i also gave a command to *put* a filesystem on it if there isn't one |
| 19:02.47 | SynrGy | Generally a desktop (GNOME, for example) will automatically mount a filesystem if there is one. |
| 19:03.00 | Deicide34 | Thank you guys for your help once again. Bye! :) |
| 19:03.03 | SynrGy | works for fat, at least. |
| 19:03.09 | SynrGy | Deicide34: no prob. later |
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| 19:03.59 | SynrGy | oznt: it works through consolekit, i believe |
| 19:04.10 | SynrGy | er, policykit |
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| 19:04.46 | SynrGy | oznt: see https://wiki.debian.org/PolicyKit |
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| 19:06.57 | oznt | SynrGy, OK, I have policykit installed, which groups my user has to be in? |
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| 19:09.25 | SynrGy | oznt: it's not group-based |
| 19:09.39 | SynrGy | oznt: generally if the user has console access, the user is permitted to shutdown |
| 19:10.10 | oznt | SynrGy, so the user has to be in the console group? |
| 19:10.17 | SynrGy | oznt: no. it's not group-based. |
| 19:10.33 | oznt | what is console access? I can login with that user to a tty |
| 19:10.34 | SynrGy | oznt: the user needs to have physical access to the console. |
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| 19:10.45 | oznt | is tty a console? |
| 19:10.52 | SynrGy | how did you start your session? via a *dm? |
| 19:11.09 | SynrGy | i mean physically the keyboard and monitor attached to your box. that's the console. |
| 19:11.33 | SynrGy | if your user has that physical access and logged in that way (usually via a *dm: gdm, kdm, lightdm, etc.) then shutdown should appear |
| 19:11.54 | SynrGy | the principle here is that any user with physical access can just hit the power switch anyway |
| 19:12.54 | oznt | SynrGy, I start my session via lightdm, but it's not there. If I start my session via "startx" as root, I can see the shutdown dialog, that is why I asked about permissions |
| 19:13.18 | SynrGy | what is lightdm starting up? a desktop? or just a plain wm? |
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| 19:14.03 | SynrGy | sounds like the lightdm session you're using is not correctly configured with consolekit |
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| 19:15.57 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:16.03 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:16.04 | oznt | SynrGy, it's probably missconfigured. i trying to start mate-desktop, |
| 19:16.19 | SynrGy | oznt: i see. from debian repo? |
| 19:16.28 | SynrGy | Tau: first, to see if it has a filesystem: |
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| 19:16.49 | SynrGy | 14:32 < SynrGy> Tau: here's some example output showing a freshly formatted 16G SD card: http://paste.debian.net/159002/ |
| 19:17.22 | SynrGy | and if it doesn't have a filesystem and fat is appropriate for you (i.e. you don't need bigfile support and you want it to be cross-system compatible) then: |
| 19:17.25 | SynrGy | 14:33 < SynrGy> Tau: so then you need to put one on it. If you're going to use fat, just 'mkdosfs /dev/sdb' would do it |
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| 19:18.08 | SynrGy | Tau: typically i find USB drives come preformatted but perhaps yours was not. |
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| 19:18.30 | SynrGy | Tau: and if you're paranoid you may want to just format it yourself anyway. |
| 19:19.11 | SynrGy | oznt: if you're using debian's mate, then we can help. if not, i recommend you do. |
| 19:19.16 | SynrGy | ,v mate-desktop |
| 19:19.17 | judd | Package: mate-desktop on i386 -- wheezy-backports: 1.8.1+dfsg1-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 1.8.1+dfsg1-2; sid: 1.8.1+dfsg1-2 |
| 19:19.28 | SynrGy | oznt: it's in wheezy-backports if you're using wheezy. and jessie also has it. |
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| 19:19.44 | SynrGy | oznt: it should 'just work' |
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| 19:20.18 | oznt | SynrGy, it does work in debain, I am trying to compile it myself though |
| 19:20.23 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:20.27 | oznt | and I am using debian too |
| 19:20.34 | SynrGy | oznt: there should be a couple of processes in mate that communicate across dbus to accomplish the unprived/prived process communication |
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| 19:20.53 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:21.38 | SynrGy | oznt: i don't recall exactly what they're called in mate, as i've only ever started it a few times for isolated tests (live images). in LXDE, for example, there is lxpolkit (run as my user) and console-kit-daemon (run as root, i.e. the privileged backend) |
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| 19:22.27 | SynrGy | oznt: console-kit-daemon is provided by the consolekit package and should be running, regardless of what desktop you use. |
| 19:22.53 | SynrGy | oznt: if you have no processes with 'polkit' or similar in the name running as your desktop user, that's probably where the trouble lies |
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| 19:23.58 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:25.18 | SynrGy | Tau: which command? |
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| 19:25.42 | Tau | sudo dd if=/dev/sdb count=1 2>/dev/null | file - |
| 19:25.43 | Tau | this one. |
| 19:25.50 | SynrGy | do you have sudo access? |
| 19:25.54 | Tau | i'm installing gnome in the hope of it automatically detecting. |
| 19:25.55 | Tau | yes. |
| 19:25.57 | Tau | i do. |
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| 19:26.18 | SynrGy | is the key plugged in and is /dev/sdb? (verifiable with ls -l /dev/disk/by-id)? |
| 19:26.35 | ddod | I'm new to iptables, can someone tell me if this looks correct (basically trying to block everything besides ssh, http, and https) http://pastebin.com/HJ1JS0Eq |
| 19:26.47 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:26.49 | SynrGy | plugging/unplugging can allocate a different device if you do it too quickly (sdb is not released in time and sdc is allocated) |
| 19:27.18 | Tau | alright. |
| 19:27.29 | SynrGy | curious. as root you ought to have read access for /dev/sdb if it's plugged in |
| 19:27.37 | Tau | i'll wait for apt-get to finish though. |
| 19:27.39 | Tau | then try it. |
| 19:27.42 | Tau | i as installing gnome. |
| 19:27.55 | SynrGy | but by redirecting error output with 2>/dev/null if something went wrong we discarded it |
| 19:28.12 | SynrGy | you can leave that off and maybe it would say what |
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| 19:28.34 | SynrGy | i only added that to keep the output tidy. |
| 19:28.45 | SynrGy | sudo dd if=/dev/sdb count=1 | file - |
| 19:29.35 | Tau | okay |
| 19:29.40 | SynrGy | what this is doing is reading a single block from the device and passing it to file, which ought to be able to find any file or device signature on it (e.g. boot sector, filesystem signature) |
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| 19:30.26 | SynrGy | that should be able to reliably identify the contents whether or not it is actually mountable (e.g. due to filesystem damage of some kind) |
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| 19:30.48 | SynrGy | well, obviously damage to the first block could obscure it :) |
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| 19:31.07 | ddod | If anyone could take a look at my iptables to tell me if I made any schoolboy errors, I'd be very grateful! (basically trying to block everything besides ssh, http, and https) http://pastebin.com/HJ1JS0Eq |
| 19:31.14 | SynrGy | if you don't care *what* was on it before, you can just format it directly with 'mkdosfs /dev/sdb' |
| 19:31.15 | pakaran | Hi, has a release date for Jessie been announced yet? |
| 19:31.25 | TPoJ | @ddod I wouldn't allow the destination to be anywhere...you might want to NAT your internal device(s) and specify them in the destination |
| 19:31.27 | SynrGy | !wwjr |
| 19:31.27 | dpkg | I have no idea when Debian 8.0 "Jessie" will release -- when it's ready, I guess, but I do know about the <jessie freeze>. For user contributed guesses on when it will release, ask me about <jessie pool 1>. See also <release goals>, <wir>. |
| 19:31.50 | SynrGy | pakaran: dates are announced via http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce |
| 19:31.56 | SynrGy | you can follow that and you'll know as much as we do |
| 19:32.13 | SynrGy | the release team gives periodic updates there |
| 19:32.30 | pakaran | SynrGy, Thanks. And beyond that, stare at the graphs (and past graphs) and guess? |
| 19:32.36 | SynrGy | yep |
| 19:32.37 | pakaran | (open bug graphs) |
| 19:32.38 | pakaran | thanks. |
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| 19:33.21 | ddod | TPoJ: I'm not sure I understand. If this is a webserver, wouldn't it need to access just about any IP? |
| 19:33.32 | pakaran | this will actually be my first release. switched from Gentoo to Jessie in the fall of '13 |
| 19:33.47 | SynrGy | ah. nice |
| 19:33.57 | SynrGy | so it's your intention to stay on jessie after it goes stable? |
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| 19:35.57 | pakaran | no, I'll give new testing a few weeks to settle and switch. |
| 19:36.17 | TPoJ | @ddod yes...but if you ever add another device (NAT'd) your rules would allow traffic if its running the same port(s). Your outbound is fine. |
| 19:36.26 | pakaran | I like having newish stuff, and don't mind dealing with bugs (again, I used Gentoo, which is reputedly worse than sid). |
| 19:37.05 | pakaran | I had a hard drive failure, got a new laptop, and didn't want to deal with a Gentoo install, honestly. But now I like Debian. |
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| 19:41.00 | fortress | nothing can be changed. does anyone know why this might be happening ? |
| 19:41.03 | fortress | Debian Jessie |
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| 19:43.56 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:44.00 | Tau | i plugged it into win 8 |
| 19:44.03 | Tau | in my other laptop |
| 19:44.14 | SynrGy | Tau: hopeless? |
| 19:44.15 | Tau | it makes a sound but it seems it cant be mounted in win 8. |
| 19:44.25 | Tau | it doesnt appear the unit. |
| 19:44.34 | Tau | so i think it is not having a file system despite being detected. |
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| 19:44.38 | Tau | what could i do? |
| 19:44.44 | Tau | in order to format it i need to mount it right? |
| 19:44.48 | Tau | i'm confuse. |
| 19:44.49 | SynrGy | Tau: i said "if you really don't care what's on it, you can just format it with 'mkdosfs /dev/sdb'" (of course you need to confirm it's the right device first) |
| 19:44.53 | SynrGy | no, you don't |
| 19:45.05 | SynrGy | formatting it is putting a filesystem on it *so that* you can mount it |
| 19:45.10 | SynrGy | seems likely it has no filesystem |
| 19:45.23 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:45.24 | Tau | t |
| 19:45.25 | Tau | mkdosfs 3.0.13 (30 Jun 2012) |
| 19:45.31 | Tau | after the mkdosfs command. |
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| 19:45.34 | SynrGy | yup |
| 19:45.41 | Tau | so, what should i do? |
| 19:45.49 | SynrGy | unplug the key. wait a few seconds. plug it in again |
| 19:45.58 | SynrGy | modern desktops automount |
| 19:46.03 | SynrGy | no /etc/fstab is needed |
| 19:46.17 | SynrGy | no *entry* in /etc/fstab, i mean |
| 19:46.26 | Tau | i unplug it then i plug then i do mkdosfs? |
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| 19:46.31 | Tau | with /dev/sdb? |
| 19:46.51 | SynrGy | yes. but like i said, verify the device each time (ls -l /dev/disk/by-id) |
| 19:47.10 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:47.22 | Tau | in order to identify which device it is in. |
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| 19:47.48 | SynrGy | a human-readable path is used to identify the device, bearing the name of the vendor, etc. |
| 19:47.57 | SynrGy | it's a symlink pointing to /dev/sdb |
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| 19:48.09 | SynrGy | you can use that info to make sure the device is what you think it is |
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| 19:48.51 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:48.55 | Tau | that is kind off odd. |
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| 19:49.12 | SynrGy | really? is the device firmly plugged in? |
| 19:49.18 | Tau | oh |
| 19:49.23 | Tau | i got some erros from kern.log now |
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| 19:49.41 | Tau | it says it ws unable to enumarete the usb device on port 3. |
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| 19:49.57 | SynrGy | flaky port? |
| 19:50.01 | SynrGy | try a different port |
| 19:50.57 | Tau | okau |
| 19:51.20 | Tau | same thing |
| 19:51.21 | Tau | this is odd. |
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| 19:52.46 | Tau | no idea whats going on |
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| 20:07.22 | srg | How can I install OpenGL support? I'm on Jessie on a Core i5 w/ Intel HD Graphics 3000. |
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| 20:08.44 | SynrGy | libgl1-mesa-dri libgl1-mesa-glx |
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| 20:09.01 | srg | thanks |
| 20:09.03 | SynrGy | if you're on gnome you should already have those |
| 20:09.11 | srg | I'm not, lxde |
| 20:09.13 | SynrGy | k |
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| 20:09.27 | srg | I have a buggy program due to lack of opengl |
| 20:09.30 | srg | thanks SynrGy |
| 20:09.38 | SynrGy | np |
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| 20:19.08 | Thms | I resized my VHD size running Debian on windows server, but my debian (df -h) still shows the old size, WHY ? |
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| 20:24.22 | Azrael_- | Thms: because you only changed the size of the disk, you forgot to adjust the size of the partition and file system |
| 20:24.31 | JonJ` | I am trying to install Debian Jessie on my Thinkpad with a wireless card requiring the iwlwifi firmware. I have made a fat32 usb key with the firmware-iwlwifi_0.43_all.deb package on it. However, it doesn't seem like the installer is mounting the usb key, after I insert it and drop to a terminal it's not mounted anywhere. Anyone know what mountpoints it should be on? |
| 20:25.05 | miroesq | I just installed Debia 7.8.0 and am adding a user with "adduser --disabled-password --quiet --system --home /usr/local/freeswitch --gecos "FreeSWITCH Voice Platform" --ingroup daemon freeswitch" but am getting an error saying "unknown option --disabled-password" |
| 20:25.51 | Thms | Azrael_-, how do I adjust the size of the partition and the filesystem. It is using LVM |
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| 20:27.39 | Thms | Azrael_-, can you give me some informations so I can google what I need to do please ? |
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| 20:53.25 | ilyagetready | Heyo, can somebody explain to me how to get this fixed |
| 20:53.25 | ilyagetready | libopenmpi1.6 : Conflicts: libopenmpi1.3 but 1.4.5-1 is to be installed. |
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| 20:57.13 | j6s | I am searching for sources for xfce 4.12 - the guys from #xfce sent me here |
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| 20:57.58 | j6s | so - do you guys know about any xfce sources or will I have to compile it myself? |
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| 21:02.29 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, versions xfcd4 |
| 21:02.30 | judd | No package named 'xfcd4' was found in i386. |
| 21:02.35 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, versions xfce4 |
| 21:02.36 | judd | Package: xfce4 on i386 -- squeeze: 4.6.2; wheezy: 4.8.0.3; jessie: 4.10.1; sid: 4.10.1 |
| 21:03.22 | CutMeOwnThroat | judd, versions libxfce4ui-1-0 |
| 21:03.23 | judd | Package: libxfce4ui-1-0 on i386 -- wheezy: 4.8.1-1; jessie: 4.10.0-6; sid: 4.10.0-6; experimental: 4.11.1-2 |
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| 21:04.40 | bazhang | j6s, the one that was released just today? |
| 21:04.51 | CutMeOwnThroat | j6s, why on earth did they send you here? |
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| 21:05.45 | CutMeOwnThroat | bazhang, haha, really... that just sounds like debian to have packages (surely in stable, no less) the day after a new version came out |
| 21:06.34 | bazhang | CutMeOwnThroat, not by debian, by the xfce4 devs |
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| 21:08.37 | CutMeOwnThroat | bazhang, I had understood you like that |
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| 21:14.43 | DANtheBEASTman | j6s: you'll have to compile it yourself |
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| 21:17.14 | bazhang | does xfce4 devs have it on github? |
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| 21:17.23 | bazhang | s/does/do/ |
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| 21:19.40 | DANtheBEASTman | bazhang: the new xfce source? I don't think it's on github, but you can get it from http://archive.xfce.org/xfce/4.12/fat_tarballs/ |
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| 21:20.12 | bazhang | DANtheBEASTman, tell js6 |
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| 21:20.30 | DANtheBEASTman | he left |
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| 21:20.51 | bazhang | in a rush, cannot wait |
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| 21:27.52 | vegeta315 | anyone using conky |
| 21:28.08 | bazhang | sure |
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| 21:28.29 | vegeta315 | bazhang are you using debian 7 |
| 21:28.58 | bazhang | vegeta315, please give more details as to your conky question |
| 21:30.06 | vegeta315 | i would like to set up conky for my debian 7 laptop will have have to start it each time from a terminal or can it autostart when my computer boots up |
| 21:30.44 | bazhang | which did you wish |
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| 21:30.56 | vegeta315 | i want it to start on its own |
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| 21:34.51 | bazhang | ,v conky-manager |
| 21:34.52 | judd | No package named 'conky-manager' was found in i386. |
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| 21:36.00 | SynrGy | autostarting conky should be no different from autostarting anything else, so i guess the question is "how do i autostart stuff?" |
| 21:36.32 | SynrGy | lxde? xfce4? something else? |
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| 21:37.32 | SynrGy | gnome? |
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| 21:38.55 | poorrick | How do you list the available key-codes for setxkbmap? "setxkbmap dvp" isn't working even though dvp is my default layout. |
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| 21:39.24 | j6s | sorry, was afk |
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| 21:41.54 | roycroft | hi, folks |
| 21:41.58 | polyphagia | hi |
| 21:42.11 | roycroft | although a unix/bsd user for 35+ years, i'm relatively new to linux, and i'm doing my first debian install right now |
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| 21:42.47 | roycroft | if you don't mind, i'd like to go over what i'm doing to make sure it's correct - the process is going to take a long time and i'd rather abort and restart now than wait and find out something is amiss |
| 21:43.17 | roycroft | my goal is to create an xfs root filesystem of 40GB, and the remainder will be encrypted xfs filesystems using lvm |
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| 21:43.46 | roycroft | so i created the root partition as primary, and bootable, and added the free space as a lvm partition |
| 21:44.12 | roycroft | then i created a bunch of small logical volumes, which i'll grow as needed later |
| 21:44.21 | roycroft | i'm using the wheezy guided installation, btw |
| 21:44.26 | syco_ | don't forget a swap partition |
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| 21:44.46 | roycroft | yes, that's going to be an encrypted lvm filesystem |
| 21:44.55 | roycroft | and i created a logical volume for that |
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| 21:45.07 | roycroft | so anyway, i moved on to encryption after creating the logical volumes |
| 21:45.32 | roycroft | and that's what is going to take so long - it appears to be erasing the logical volumes themselves |
| 21:45.43 | roycroft | is that what it does before allowing me to create the encrypted filesystem |
| 21:45.45 | roycroft | s? |
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| 21:47.34 | roycroft | figured he would create filesystems and encrypt them, not encrypt the logical volumes in which the filesystems will reside |
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| 21:56.16 | pixionus1 | what's the best way to image a "perfect install" before I go and futz it up trying to get unknowns working? |
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| 21:57.16 | bazhang | ,v clonezilla |
| 21:57.17 | judd | Package: clonezilla on i386 -- sid: 3.10.11-1; jessie: 3.10.11-1 |
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| 21:58.47 | pixionus1 | bazhang; thanks |
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| 21:59.48 | pixionus1 | will it dump empty space or waste time copying it like dd would? |
| 22:00.19 | pixionus1 | (or am I missing something in dd... I suppose I should go back through the man but I would prefer nto to use it atm) |
| 22:00.22 | shswsincmmxii | hai gaes |
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| 22:14.31 | Walex | pixionus1: the best way depends on the filesystem type |
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| 22:17.27 | Tau | i need to djust gamma in skype linux. |
| 22:17.31 | Tau | no idea how i could do that |
| 22:17.35 | Tau | i installed lucview |
| 22:17.37 | Tau | but it fails |
| 22:17.39 | tertu | okay, i tried to do a testing upgrade and totally bungled it |
| 22:17.39 | tertu | i'd like to try again. how should i go about doing that? |
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| 22:18.22 | pixionus1 | Walex: I believe it is ext4 |
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| 22:24.52 | ilyagetready | I was downgrading jessie to wheezy |
| 22:24.58 | ilyagetready | and got an issue with |
| 22:24.59 | ilyagetready | Errors were encountered while processing: |
| 22:24.59 | ilyagetready | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:24.59 | ilyagetready | <PROTECTED> |
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| 22:25.42 | dvs | !downgrade |
| 22:25.43 | dpkg | Downgrading is not, nor will ever be supported by apt. Programs change their data in a way that can't be rolled back, and package maintainer scripts support upgrades to new config file formats but not downgrades. Try: "dpkg -i olderversion.deb" or "aptitude install package=version" using "apt-cache policy package" to get the old version number. See also <partial downgrade>, <unstable->testing>, <sdo>. |
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| 22:26.29 | ilyagetready | Yeah, but is it not kernel itself? |
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| 22:28.01 | ilyagetready | http://pastebin.com/zRGN8cHT |
| 22:28.33 | speckmade1 | Jessie with LXDE here. Normally working very fine, except when there are file system problems. In that case it's behaving very newbie hostile. |
| 22:28.33 | speckmade1 | If someone could help me sort out whether it's to be seen as a feature or a bug, that'd be appreciated. |
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| 22:29.12 | speckmade1 | With file system problems it boots to emergency mode and drops me to a root shell. No GUI anymore until the fs is fixed. |
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| 22:30.05 | speckmade1 | I've got full-disk encryption using LUKS, LVM and Ext4 |
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| 22:37.15 | Schnabeltierchen | http://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?446809 since i´m using debian and i´m a noob it seems to be the right channel for me... to access my server in the home network from a froeign network, i´ve created a vpn (which is working). now i´ve made a script which detects a foreign network and routes only traffic to my server through the vpn, may you guys have look? cause there´s something wrong with basic syntax i think... |
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| 22:39.00 | speckmade1 | Schnabeltierchen: "next" here is for the next generation/version of Debian to be officially released, not the next generation of users. ;-) |
| 22:39.03 | Broatcast | remove the &'s |
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| 22:39.21 | yart | @speckmadel: :D |
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| 22:39.42 | Schnabeltierchen | sorry -_- |
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| 22:39.57 | Schnabeltierchen | thought i would be the channel to ask questions... |
| 22:40.07 | yart | is there even a channel for beginners? |
| 22:40.40 | Schnabeltierchen | i searched for one and the most of the articles/posts lead me here.... |
| 22:40.49 | speckmade1 | Schnabeltierchen: I guess you'd fine in the main channel?.. (If you're asking for support with debian stable) |
| 22:41.20 | Schnabeltierchen | mhm... i thought #debian would be the main #channel... |
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| 22:43.33 | speckmade1 | Schnabeltierchen: Yes. I may also fall in the beginners category. I didn't find people in #debian unfriendly so far. Just had to bring some patience sometimes. |
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| 22:46.07 | Schnabeltierchen | if there isn´t a answer for my questions 10 secs after i posted, i´ll ragequit! :P |
| 22:46.10 | devinmcelheran | How do I check what version of Debian I'm running? I think my installation uses Upstart, but the initctl commands aren't present. |
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| 22:46.46 | Schnabeltierchen | devinmcelheran cat /etc/debian_version |
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| 22:47.26 | devinmcelheran | 7.8, when does the migration to SystemD happen? |
| 22:47.42 | speckmade1 | I'm used to do lsb_release -a |
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| 22:47.55 | beepie | ubuntu is migrating from upstart. |
| 22:48.08 | beepie | devinmcelheran, you're using ubuntu |
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| 22:48.30 | devinmcelheran | I thought Debian used upstart? I'm most certainly not using Ubuntu, I loathe it. |
| 22:48.45 | beepie | devinmcelheran, #ubuntu .. Debian never used upstart afaik |
| 22:49.00 | devinmcelheran | Did Debian just stick with SysV? |
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| 22:49.03 | Schnabeltierchen | devinmcelheran just try speckmade1 "lsb_release -a", just to be sure |
| 22:49.35 | devinmcelheran | Debian 7.8 Wheezy. |
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| 22:50.43 | Schnabeltierchen | Mhm but this is as far as a noob like me may guide you... |
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| 22:55.11 | devinmcelheran | So, I guess Debian offers Upstart, but it's not default. I don't know where I got the idea that Debian used upstart. I knew Ubuntu used it, but I thought Ubuntu used it because Debian used it. Anyways, thanks for the help. |
| 22:55.51 | speckmade | The next stable version of Debian will be using systemd. We here in #debian-next, who are using the testing version of Debian, are living in the future and have already moved to systemd (from SysV init). |
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| 22:56.48 | speckmade | I think upstart won't be officially supported. |
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| 23:04.38 | sine0 | http://dpaste.com/0AW0H4T < would the file perms cause Debian-exim to not use the DKIM key ? (its not inserting it into my outbound emails) |
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| 23:11.48 | isaac___ | Anyone know of any reason that both sftp and ftp max out at around 500kb/s per file? |
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| 23:12.15 | isaac___ | If I have one download from the ftp, it downloads at 500kb/s If I have 5 downloading at hte same time, each download goes at 500kb/s |
| 23:13.16 | beepie | isaac___, has nothing to do with linux, that could be any network equipment setting the cap on bandwidth |
| 23:14.09 | isaac___ | well it's running debian, so I just figured I'd ask in here. Not sure where else I could ask. All I could find from googling is to use a client that supports segmented downloads, but then I would have to not use filezilla |
| 23:14.32 | beepie | isaac___, sounds like your ISP limits your upload bandwidth |
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| 23:14.45 | beepie | which is common actually |
| 23:15.01 | isaac___ | on vps's? |
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| 23:15.53 | sine0 | isaac___: what about doing a speedtest.net to see what you max out at |
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| 23:16.12 | beepie | yep, the VPS provider could be setting a traffic-shape bandwidth on connections |
| 23:16.28 | isaac___ | sine0, is there a way to do that from ssh, or a similar test? |
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| 23:16.52 | sine0 | there is a command line speed test but i forget what its called, it was a py script |
| 23:16.56 | sine0 | google |
| 23:16.56 | isaac___ | beepie, alright. Thanks man, I guess I'll just get a client that supports segmented downloads. Just wanted t omake sure I wasn't missing some kind of setting or such |
| 23:17.04 | isaac___ | ok will do, sine |
| 23:17.11 | sine0 | it might be your leet topsite putting a limit on your leech |
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| 23:36.52 | cityLights | hi, I see dhclient is running in my jessie |
| 23:37.19 | cityLights | how can I tell which service cased it to run when eth0 is not connected to a cable? |
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| 23:38.57 | Brigo | cityLights, try ps axf |
| 23:39.38 | cityLights | its ppid is 1 |
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| 23:41.18 | Brigo | That is te pid of init system, are you running systemd or initvsystem? |
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| 23:43.52 | cityLights | <PROTECTED> |
| 23:44.06 | cityLights | here is the dclient |
| 23:44.12 | cityLights | no its not systemd |
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| 23:47.21 | cityLights | I basically don't want this dhclient to run as eth0 is not UP |
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| 23:51.37 | Brigo | cityLights, can you paste the output of ps axf command in paste.debian.net? |
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| 23:53.30 | ex-parrot | is there a machine readable source of DSAs, or a library to parse the existing format? there's an ancient python library called dsalib but it doesn't seem to work terribly well and the code isn't great |
| 23:54.30 | jhutchins | cityLights: Two things can trigger dhclient, either a dhcp configuration in the interfaces file, or networkmanager (or wicd). |
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| 23:56.25 | jhutchins | ex-parrot: It would probably help if you specified what you mean by "DSA": http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DSA |
| 23:56.32 | cityLights | can I have the interface not use dhcp or static for the device and use systemd dhcp? |
| 23:57.45 | beepie | cityLights, you're trying to use snort? |
| 23:57.53 | cityLights | no |
| 23:58.09 | cityLights | well I think I solved some of it |
| 23:58.13 | beepie | you just want to listen with an interface without an "ip" ? |
| 23:58.23 | beepie | snort does that. |
| 23:58.26 | cityLights | I added allow-hotplug eth0 |
| 23:58.58 | cityLights | beepie, I normally use wlan1 |
| 23:59.06 | beepie | then that's something else |
| 23:59.18 | cityLights | so I don't need dhclient to pull eth0 |
| 23:59.34 | beepie | you need to setup with WIFI accordingly. AP's don't let traffic unless they give a client an IP, so you need to use dhcp |
| 23:59.44 | cityLights | but, in case I uplug the wlan and plug in the eth0, I want it to work |
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