| 00:00.01 | cityLights | wlan works fine with networkmanager |
| 00:00.02 | Tau | JESUS CHRIST |
| 00:00.11 | Tau | THE GUY WHO THOUGHT OF LINUX WILL GO TO HELL. |
| 00:00.15 | beepie | so use dhcp on eth0. |
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| 00:00.21 | cityLights | no, the allow line didn;t help |
| 00:00.22 | Tau | I CANT JUST SET WEBCAM GAMMA WITH SKYPE ON LINUX |
| 00:00.26 | Tau | AND I USE IT FOR 14 YEARS |
| 00:00.35 | RoyK | Tau: cut the caps lock |
| 00:00.40 | beepie | Tau, hey kid you need a ride? |
| 00:00.41 | SynrGy | please tone it down. i see you're upset, but don't take it out on us |
| 00:00.51 | Tau | i'm dead sure linus tolvards and bill gates should be beheaded. |
| 00:00.54 | beepie | Tau, hey kid you need a ride? |
| 00:01.04 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:01.07 | beepie | opens his car side door for Tau |
| 00:01.16 | Tau | <PROTECTED> |
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| 00:01.24 | beepie | Tau, come in, I know your mommy |
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| 00:01.42 | beepie | waves |
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| 00:01.56 | cityLights | wait, I need your help |
| 00:02.03 | beepie | cityLights, you need dhcp |
| 00:02.27 | beepie | cityLights, the mac-addresses are different for eth0 and wlan0.. so they'll be given different ip addresses on the same lan |
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| 00:02.53 | beepie | cityLights, some routing boxes can do ip-address reserves for mac-addresses.. maybe you want to look into that |
| 00:02.57 | cityLights | but, can't I ask debian to run dhcpclient, only if a carrier is sensed? |
| 00:02.58 | SynrGy | Tau: you've been silenced until you can chill a bit |
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| 00:03.21 | SynrGy | Tau: take a deep breath, think of your happy place. |
| 00:03.48 | ex-parrot | jhutchins: I figured within the context of #debian it would be taken to mean Debian Security Advisory :) |
| 00:03.51 | cityLights | beepie, maybe I need to use udev.... |
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| 00:04.36 | beepie | cityLights, udev is used for scanning new devices |
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| 00:04.41 | beepie | cityLights, its not needed for this |
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| 00:05.24 | beepie | cityLights, you're trying to use wlan and eth0 for the same IP address? |
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| 00:05.55 | beepie | cityLights, if it's not getting a new ip-address.. then you need to set things on allow-hotplug with /etc/network/interfaces |
| 00:06.14 | beepie | cityLights, you don't even need to specify dhcp for these interfaces in this file.. you let NM handle this |
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| 00:08.10 | cityLights | right |
| 00:08.22 | cityLights | I don't want to use both NIC at the same time |
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| 00:08.32 | cityLights | I mainly use wlan1 |
| 00:08.48 | beepie | cityLights, sounds like the "gateway" is not being reset as it should |
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| 00:08.59 | cityLights | some times I don't use wlan1 but plug in eth0 |
| 00:09.13 | cityLights | again no gateway issue |
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| 00:09.35 | beepie | cityLights, (using NM) if you disconnect the wlan after doing webbrowsing, then connect the eth0, the route should show a new gateway via eth0 (route) |
| 00:09.46 | beepie | cityLights, the routing table should be correct... |
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| 00:09.55 | cityLights | I just don't need to run a dhcp client if eth0 is not plugged, and there is no ethernet carrier |
| 00:10.20 | cityLights | again, I got no routing issue |
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| 00:11.02 | beepie | cityLights, see dhclient.conf for timeouts |
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| 00:15.36 | ped | What kind of themes are you guys using? Just the default? |
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| 00:21.52 | muculus | my server freeze on Cleaning up temporary files |
| 00:21.55 | muculus | :( |
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| 00:22.16 | muculus | about 5 minutes |
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| 00:23.56 | Brigo | muculus, on every boot? are you using systemd? |
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| 00:26.36 | muculus | Brigo: no i see error no space left on device ... and then i reboot on server |
| 00:27.03 | muculus | Brigo: after rebooting it's freezing on cleaning but with high I/O on server state |
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| 00:27.37 | Brigo | muculus, no systemd, then? |
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| 00:28.15 | muculus | It's default installation idont know about systemd |
| 00:28.17 | Brigo | muculus, so you cannot get a console running in the server? |
| 00:28.24 | Brigo | wheezy? |
| 00:28.31 | muculus | muculus: i have remote |
| 00:28.43 | muculus | Brigo: i have remote |
| 00:28.53 | muculus | it's virtual machine |
| 00:29.21 | Brigo | the problem could be the server are deleting a lot of information. |
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| 00:29.57 | muculus | Brigo: how much !? about 7 minutes to delete alll !? |
| 00:30.17 | Brigo | how big is the disk/disks? |
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| 00:31.03 | muculus | Brigo: about 24 GB |
| 00:31.14 | Brigo | not too much, then. |
| 00:31.42 | muculus | before reset i see about 6GB is used with `df` |
| 00:31.50 | pixionus1 | Is there any reason I should not use Linux PAM aunthentication for OpenVPN so a friend can access something I have setup on a local computer? |
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| 00:31.58 | muculus | Brigo: thats wiered |
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| 00:32.07 | pixionus1 | She's already got an account on the machine |
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| 00:32.12 | Brigo | muculus, if you can access the filesystem, you can check for files to delete in /tmp |
| 00:32.36 | muculus | Brigo: it's okey to reboot using grub to remove them ? |
| 00:32.44 | Brigo | muculus, you see no space left with only 6G used? |
| 00:32.54 | muculus | Brigo: yeh |
| 00:33.01 | RoyK | muculus: pastebin df -h |
| 00:33.12 | Brigo | muculus, if you can manage it, yes, i couldn't :) |
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| 00:35.31 | muculus | it's before reboot |
| 00:35.32 | muculus | http://paste.ubuntu.com/10494994/ |
| 00:36.20 | RoyK | I don't see a problem there |
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| 00:40.07 | muculus | which command is for mount /tmp |
| 00:40.16 | muculus | on grub init bash ? |
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| 00:40.43 | muculus | mount -rw /tmp said : special device /dev/mapper/aaaa-tmp dose not exist |
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| 00:41.36 | Brigo | muculus, are you in grub prompt? |
| 00:41.46 | muculus | Brigo: yeah |
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| 00:42.10 | Brigo | at that point the kernet have not boot yet, there are no devices at all. |
| 00:42.20 | Brigo | try to boot in rescue mode. |
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| 00:50.33 | pixionus1 | Do you need a static public ip or DNS to host a vpn? |
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| 00:52.07 | Brigo | pixionus1, no, but you could want them if you want people finding you (or even yourself) |
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| 00:52.49 | ped | I downloaded this theme pack: http://nale12.deviantart.com/art/Boje-1-2-1-342853818?offset=150 , moved the files to /usr/share/themes and opened gnome-tweak-tool, but I don't see the themes. |
| 00:52.52 | pixionus1 | oh, didn't really realize there were applications of the vpn where I wouldn't. |
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| 00:55.20 | ped | Did I put the files in the wrong directory or something? |
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| 00:56.08 | pixionus1 | So is there any way for me to have someone find something I'm hosting on my network consistantly without having to pay the isp? The only users that ever need to find it externally are myself and one other individual |
| 00:56.50 | robert__ | Hello |
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| 00:57.27 | polyphagia | port forwarding pixionus1 |
| 00:57.33 | robert__ | someone here talk about docker |
| 00:57.52 | polyphagia | usually something in your router settings if you have one |
| 00:57.57 | polyphagia | for poking holes in the firewall |
| 00:58.25 | pixionus1 | Wouldn't port forwarding requires you know the ip. Without paying the isp, I know of no way to make sure it won't change |
| 00:58.58 | pixionus1 | *require |
| 00:59.52 | polyphagia | i guess that depends on the IP, mine doesn't change |
| 00:59.54 | polyphagia | ISP* |
| 01:00.07 | polyphagia | what sort of content is it pixionus1 ? |
| 01:00.24 | pixionus1 | It's served up as a webpage. |
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| 01:00.51 | pixionus1 | it's a crm but we are just using it for managing some projects we are working on |
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| 01:01.51 | robert__ | hello |
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| 01:04.37 | pixionus1 | Sorry robert__ we don't do with formalities here and if someone has an answer the will just post.. Otherwise ::shrugs:: we are just left hanging, but that's the way of it. |
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| 01:05.14 | pixionus1 | don't mean to be rude by not responding but have nothign constructive to add for your docker question. |
| 01:05.40 | pixionus1 | Except that it is not secure as of yet and still a fairly young project. |
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| 01:06.03 | robert__ | pixiomus1: thank you |
| 01:07.01 | pixionus1 | Very useful and adopted by many. If you trust the packages, it's got it's perks but im leaving off till it matures a little more. |
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| 01:07.59 | danillo10 | how i ping on specific port ? 192.168.0.1:5900 dont work |
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| 01:11.45 | robert__ | someone to join in #docker? |
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| 01:23.55 | hamn | how can i tell if a device is using Memory Mapped IO or IO ports? |
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| 01:25.34 | beepie | danillo10, tcpdump port 5900 can look to see how far requests are being answered |
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| 01:27.12 | beepie | hamn, devices are handled by their controller boards |
| 01:27.35 | beepie | hamn, you can find this information with system-level programming |
| 01:30.15 | robert__ | pixionus1 good night |
| 01:30.32 | robert__ | bye my friend |
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| 01:32.34 | trees | Hello - I'm running crunchbang on a ThinkPad T40, no response in the crunchbang irc, so I though I'd ask here: no WiFi is detected and I have no ethernet; is there any way to get the right drivers (I assume that that is what is missing??). Thanks for any help or ideas. |
| 01:32.54 | beepie | trees, there's a new successor for crunchbang.. |
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| 01:33.45 | trees | beepie: Yeah, I heard about Bunsen Labs and #! ++, but being new to #!, I though I'd stick with something more stable... |
| 01:33.47 | beepie | trees, the crunchbang project, it's leader announced his retired for this project |
| 01:34.38 | trees | beepie: Yeah, seems like a good distro for older hardware though! |
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| 01:36.07 | trees | beepie: Is there enough similarity between crunchbang and Debian that Debian resources could help, or should I really look elsewhere? |
| 01:36.38 | beepie | trees, it's kernel related, so you'll get more help on #linux.. |
| 01:36.52 | beepie | trees, this is not a derivative support channel.. |
| 01:37.03 | trees | beepie: Okay - thanks! |
| 01:37.32 | beepie | trees, i'm on #linux if you want to extend up on this.. i don't use crunchbang, but usually it's similar backend tools |
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| 01:38.01 | trees | beepie: Okay - I'll go there now! |
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| 02:40.17 | dgeary2 | how to determine the source package name and version for a particular installed binary package? i feel 'apt-cache showsrc' has most if not all of the required information but its output is difficult to use and it doesn't support specifying a package version https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=776366 |
| 02:41.22 | themill | dgeary2: as I said yesterday, that constraint is enforced archive-side |
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| 02:43.33 | dgeary2 | themill, i can't seem to find our conversation yesterday in my chat history. what do you mean by 'that constraint is enforced archive-side'? |
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| 02:46.04 | themill | dgeary2: The normal case is that there is only one version of any source package in any suite and there is only one version of the binary package in that suite too and that version of the binary package is built from that version of the source package. |
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| 02:59.09 | dgeary2 | themill, exceptions to that normal case exist and need to be taken into account. a quick look through the installed packages on my wheezy chroot reveals more than 30 packages which have multiple source versions |
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| 03:05.46 | dgeary2 | themill, examples of a packages with multiple source packages in wheezy: automake, gdb |
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| 03:12.40 | themill | dgeary2: yeah, there are very occasionally other versions of the source package kept around to provide the source for other packages because a few bits of them get copied into other packages at build time. These carry the "Extra-Source-Only: yes" header. (automake is not one of them btw) |
| 03:13.49 | themill | oh -- automake might be in wheezy. I was checking jessie. |
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| 03:16.55 | pixionus1 | I feel like automake was in wheezy |
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| 03:42.18 | dgeary2 | themill, i meant if you do 'apt-cache showsrc automake' in wheezy, you get results for automake=1:1.4-p6-13.1 as well as automake1.11=1:1.11.6-1 |
| 03:44.47 | ectospasm | I'm having a problem with xscreensaver, or with DPMS, in jessie. The screen will lock, it looks like DPMS is kicking in (my monitors display their "lost HDMI signal" screens), but when I expect the screens to go totally dark, and the LED power indicator to go from blue to orange, nothing happens. I have a blank screen as my xscreensaver hack, but I can see that the monitor is on (it's not in standby or |
| 03:44.49 | ectospasm | low-power mode) |
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| 03:47.43 | ectospasm | Oh, and something is kicking in DPMS unexpectedly. Just now, my screen blanked. It didn't lock, and the monitors never went to sleep. And it "woke up" without any input from me. |
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| 03:49.36 | themill | dgeary2: well that's two different source packages -- apt-cache accepts both source and binary package names in this argument which gets confusing when there are unrelated source and binary packages with the same name as in this case. You might find that grep-dctrl is better for your particular use here. |
| 03:51.21 | themill | dgeary2: btw you might like to look at the "botch" tool that calculates how to bootstrap debian |
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| 03:56.11 | dgeary2 | themill, thanks will take a look at those 2 tools. was previously unaware of both of them. |
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| 04:08.33 | dgeary2 | themill, i'll take a look at grep-dctrl competitor ara as well |
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| 04:30.27 | trrees | Is it possible that lspci wouldn't detect a wifi device? |
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| 04:33.49 | Spec | trrees: if it's a usb device you'd find it under lsusb |
| 04:34.13 | trrees | spec: that means it plugs in by usb? |
| 04:34.43 | trrees | spec: Hmm. Not there either.... |
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| 04:36.39 | shay_shay | is there not a torrent for jessie d-i rc1 ? |
| 04:37.10 | duckey | Hello. I am having some problems with my pc. I tried to install Debian Linux on it and I had on gui to work with. Then I tried to install Ubuntu 14.04.1 and now nothing will reconize my hard drive. I am completely lost. Please help. Ps I techencally dont have an OS. But I prefer Linux. |
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| 04:39.04 | shay_shay | duckey: you're going to have to ask a more concice question |
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| 04:40.10 | duckey | shay_shay, No os installer will recognize my Hdd. What do I do? |
| 04:40.28 | shay_shay | duckey: does debians? |
| 04:40.52 | duckey | Typo |
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| 04:41.35 | duckey | shay_shay, Any advice? |
| 04:42.45 | Schnabeltierchen | try to boot from a debian/ubunti live disk, check gparted, if hdd is found try installing |
| 04:43.14 | shay_shay | duckey: are you in a live disk right now? |
| 04:43.27 | duckey | shay_shay, yes. |
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| 04:43.53 | b0t | Hello, i need find a php.ini |
| 04:44.16 | shay_shay | duckey: fdisk -l | pastebinit |
| 04:44.26 | duckey | Ok |
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| 04:44.56 | shay_shay | you might get command not found, not sure off the top of my head if pastebinit is installed in live disc |
| 04:45.07 | shay_shay | if not, then "apt-get install pastebinit" first |
| 04:45.50 | duckey | How bout regular pastebin on firefox? |
| 04:46.02 | shay_shay | thats fine you can paste it however you want |
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| 04:47.42 | duckey | shay_shay, http://pastebin.com/gxBmq4fS |
| 04:47.54 | b0t | Hello, i need find a php.ini |
| 04:48.05 | shay_shay | duckey: sudo fdisk =l |
| 04:48.10 | shay_shay | duckey: sudo fdisk -l |
| 04:48.32 | Schnabeltierchen | lsblk -io KNAME,TYPE,SIZE,MODEL < -maybe? |
| 04:48.37 | duckey | shay_shay, same |
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| 04:49.21 | shay_shay | what Schnabeltierchen said |
| 04:49.41 | polyphagia | duckey: #ubuntu |
| 04:49.52 | polyphagia | unless you're justbeing cheeky with your user and host |
| 04:50.00 | duckey | I tried |
| 04:50.06 | shay_shay | polyphagia: oh good catch |
| 04:51.08 | shay_shay | lol. |
| 04:51.15 | Schnabeltierchen | is there a channel to ask about vpnc or linux routing? |
| 04:51.55 | rjsalts | Schnabeltierchen: what did you need to know about vpnc and routing? |
| 04:51.58 | shay_shay | #netfilter |
| 04:52.12 | Rusty1 | Schnabeltierchen: perhaps ##networking |
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| 04:53.05 | Schnabeltierchen | got vpnc working, just want to tunnel 1 specific ip trough vpn, rest trough normal gateway |
| 04:53.29 | b0t | I need solved this error: http://pastie.org/9992667 |
| 04:53.32 | Schnabeltierchen | http://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?447054 <--- but this isn´t working |
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| 05:28.47 | Lady_Aleena | Hello. I was told jessie would be released as stable in Feb. I didn't an update/upgrade yesterday and didn't see any change. Has it been pushed back a while longer? |
| 05:29.25 | Lady_Aleena | s/didn't/did/; # stupid brain-finger misfire. |
| 05:30.05 | b0t | Hey putos |
| 05:30.07 | b0t | Respondan |
| 05:30.18 | cafuego | Lady_Aleena: Whoever told you that lied. |
| 05:30.31 | Lady_Aleena | cafuego, how badly? |
| 05:30.36 | cafuego | 100% |
| 05:30.48 | cafuego | It was not released in february ;-) |
| 05:30.49 | rjsalts | Lady_Aleena: jessie will be released when it's ready |
| 05:30.49 | Lady_Aleena | head desks. |
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| 05:31.16 | iluminator105 | how do i unmount with dislocker |
| 05:31.24 | cafuego | Lady_Aleena: afaik there's just no set date |
| 05:31.45 | Lady_Aleena | So, I am stuck with an outdated and unsupported desktop indefinitely. |
| 05:31.46 | rjsalts | http://richardhartmann.de/blog/posts/2015/02/27-Debian_Release_Critical_Bug_report_for_Week_09/ might be enlightening |
| 05:31.56 | cafuego | Not yet planned; likely late March |
| 05:32.02 | cafuego | Lady_Aleena: wut? |
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| 05:32.44 | cafuego | Lady_Aleena: As testing is updated, you'll get these updates come through |
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| 05:32.45 | rjsalts | It will be released once there are no more release critical bugs. Either because the package has been removed from stable, or the bug has been fixed |
| 05:33.12 | rjsalts | well, removed from testing |
| 05:33.17 | Lady_Aleena | cafuego, KDE 4.8.? is very outdated and unsupported, and until the stable version updates KDE, I'm stuck with an inferior version. |
| 05:33.19 | cafuego | Lady_Aleena: Best bet is to make sure your sources.list files use "jessie" and not "testing", then you'll fine fine. |
| 05:33.35 | Lady_Aleena | cafuego, I'm still in wheezy. |
| 05:33.40 | cafuego | Lady_Aleena: Ah ok. |
| 05:34.48 | Lady_Aleena | goes back to wishing her software would update itself instead of being dependent on the OS for updates. |
| 05:35.01 | cafuego | Lady_Aleena: If it's important to you to have anewer KDE, you can just install jessie. |
| 05:35.21 | rjsalts | or upgrade to jessie before it's released |
| 05:35.28 | cafuego | yep |
| 05:35.34 | Lady_Aleena | cafuego, I'm too afraid of losing files to reinstall Debian, especially all of my saved email. |
| 05:35.41 | rjsalts | the disadvantage being it doesn't yet have security support |
| 05:35.48 | cafuego | Lady_Aleena: upgrde, I mean |
| 05:36.09 | Lady_Aleena | cafuego, to me upgrade = reinstall. |
| 05:36.13 | cafuego | if it's about a month from release I doubt there are major upgrade bugs |
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| 05:36.47 | cafuego | then again: Total number of release-critical bugs: 1516 |
| 05:37.03 | rjsalts | Lady_Aleena: I haven't reinstalled my debian box at home in 15 years or so |
| 05:37.42 | cafuego | https://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/other/testing.html |
| 05:37.48 | rjsalts | see the link above I posted |
| 05:39.27 | Lady_Aleena | My system is so screwy right now, I am too afraid to do anything other than update/upgrade and even that feels risky. |
| 05:39.59 | rjsalts | Lady_Aleena: screwy? howso? |
| 05:41.00 | Lady_Aleena | rjsalts, slow as dirt, KMail won't open on the first try, KDE games crash, can't play music and work at the same time, etc etc etc. |
| 05:42.15 | Lady_Aleena | I go to scroll in LibreOffice Calc and end up at the very bottom of the spreadsheet (not the bottom of the data, the highest available numbered cell). |
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| 05:42.37 | ryouma | did you reboot? |
| 05:42.45 | ryouma | htop? |
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| 05:42.54 | ryouma | <PROTECTED> |
| 05:43.17 | rjsalts | Lady_Aleena: that sounds pretty random, too random |
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| 05:43.27 | Lady_Aleena | ryouma, I've rebooted enough. htop is unhelpful. |
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| 05:43.43 | ryouma | might be corruption |
| 05:43.44 | ryouma | ? |
| 05:43.50 | rjsalts | Lady_Aleena: have you tried running memtest86? |
| 05:44.13 | Lady_Aleena | Doesn't memtest86 need a reboot to it? |
| 05:44.23 | rjsalts | yeah, unfortunately |
| 05:44.49 | rjsalts | but if stuff is behaving randomly over multiple programs I often suspect bad ram |
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| 05:45.04 | Lady_Aleena | Oh, and my 3.5" drive won't automagically mount like I thought I had it set up to do when I put a disk in it. |
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| 05:48.38 | Lady_Aleena | I mean, how is it Windows can see the files on a 3.5" disk without me having to do anything other than stick into the drive, but Linux can't? The same goes with any removable drives. |
| 05:49.25 | shay_shay | Lady_Aleena: 3.5" disk? |
| 05:49.25 | Lady_Aleena | I still don't get it after a little over a year with Debian. |
| 05:49.43 | Lady_Aleena | shay_shay, please tell me that is a joke question. |
| 05:49.52 | shay_shay | have you tried it with 5.25" disk, and still the same? |
| 05:50.04 | shay_shay | i'm hoping your question was a joke, lol |
| 05:50.06 | Lady_Aleena | shay_shay, I don't have a 5.25" drive anymore. |
| 05:50.33 | shay_shay | floppy disks are obsolete, and so are optical discs for that matter |
| 05:51.20 | Lady_Aleena | shay_shay, I don't get the reasoning behind having to manually mount removable devices. I want to put in a disk or plug in a USB drive and have it available without me having to do anything. Just mount it already. |
| 05:52.20 | shay_shay | Lady_Aleena: if you wanted to partition it and it was automatically mounting you would get errors like "unable to inform kernel of changes to the disk, you might want to reboot" |
| 05:52.38 | shay_shay | thats one reason |
| 05:53.03 | Lady_Aleena | shay_shay, why would I partition a USB drive? |
| 05:53.48 | shay_shay | why wouldnt you? |
| 05:54.29 | Lady_Aleena | shay_shay, because it is to much trouble for a backup. |
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| 05:55.02 | shay_shay | you can write a udev rule to make it automatically mount |
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| 05:55.48 | Lady_Aleena | Googles udev. |
| 05:56.20 | rjsalts | I just use the Device Notifier from KDE and mount it through KDE gui |
| 05:57.06 | rjsalts | I think you could also use the automounter |
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| 05:58.27 | shay_shay | rjsalts: this? https://wiki.debian.org/AutoFs |
| 05:58.42 | shay_shay | Lady_Aleena: ^ |
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| 05:59.25 | rjsalts | yes |
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| 06:01.55 | Lady_Aleena | It looks like udev is over my head at the moment. Thanks for trying shay_shay. |
| 06:02.21 | rjsalts | udev is over my head for most things |
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| 06:05.10 | Lady_Aleena | So, jessie will be stable at some later unspecified date. Correct? |
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| 06:05.36 | rjsalts | Lady_Aleena: yes, as soon as they deal with the remaining 150 odd release critical bugs |
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| 06:05.55 | rjsalts | Lady_Aleena: it'll probably be within the next month or two |
| 06:07.02 | rjsalts | Lady_Aleena: but if your computer seems to be getting more unreliable, across a large number of programs there could be something hardware related at play |
| 06:07.15 | Lady_Aleena | Maybe when jessie comes out, I might find a Linux-based text editor I can modify to my wants and desires, so I don't have to use the one I like in wine anymore. |
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| 06:11.14 | rjsalts | Lady_Aleena: I guess it could also be a coincidence and multiple programs are broken at once/one after the other |
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| 06:12.02 | Lady_Aleena | rjsalts, or just an old computer trying to run bloated software. |
| 06:12.08 | shay_shay | Lady_Aleena: udev is not over your head, just follow the instructions it will work fine |
| 06:12.19 | rjsalts | Lady_Aleena: but the thing with calc sounds weird |
| 06:12.23 | shay_shay | it looks harder than it is |
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| 06:13.04 | Lady_Aleena | rjsalts, yes, I get runaway scrolling a lot. |
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| 06:13.14 | Lady_Aleena | rjsalts, ^ in Calc. |
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| 06:14.18 | Lady_Aleena | rjsalts, it is a good thing I only use it once a month when doing my bills. |
| 06:15.27 | rjsalts | Lady_Aleena: I guess it could be UI lag not registering that you let go of the mouse or key too long |
| 06:15.51 | Lady_Aleena | Most of the time the only programs I have open is Iceweasel, Notepad++ (in Wine), and XChat (with VLC in the background). |
| 06:17.10 | Lady_Aleena | rjsalts, UI lag could be it, especially since my checkbook is a large file. |
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| 06:21.30 | rjsalts | Lady_Aleena: I wouldn't expect that kind of problem on a computer made in the last 10 years for wheezy. Unless you had less than a gigabyte of memory |
| 06:22.18 | Lady_Aleena | rjsalts, 4GB here. |
| 06:22.47 | rjsalts | yeah, that should be plenty for a desktop workstation |
| 06:26.11 | Lady_Aleena | rjsalts and shay_shay, sorry for dumping my problems on you two tonight. |
| 06:26.28 | shay_shay | np |
| 06:27.21 | shay_shay | anyways Lady_Aleena I bet you could get the autofs thing to work if you tried. udev rules are easy to learn even though they may look hard |
| 06:27.31 | shay_shay | and they are useful for all kinds of automation |
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| 06:28.23 | Lady_Aleena | shay_shay, I don't have much time tonight to look into it deeply. In a few minutes I should get myself into the shower since I have physical therapy appointment tomorrow. |
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| 08:04.45 | jusbv | can i downgrade sid to jessie without install? |
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| 08:06.09 | shay_shay | jusbv: most likely no, but its technically possible |
| 08:06.27 | shay_shay | you could try but expect to have to reinstall |
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| 08:08.18 | rwan | evening, running jessie so i get to keep both pieces...was in X, plugged in an external monitor, used xrandr to turn on the HDMI1 output, turned off laptop screen eDP1. shutdown laptop. unplugged screen, got on bus, now with startx eDP1 goes blank...xrandr just reports can not open display. any thoughts? my previous [debian stable] experience of xrandr is that nothing persisted past a reboot |
| 08:09.43 | Stummi | jusbv, if you are brave enough to try it: Pin jessie to something > 999 and do an system upgrade |
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| 08:21.29 | rwan | ahh. mv ~/.e/ ~/old.e got my screen back |
| 08:21.47 | jeezy | :0 |
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| 08:22.32 | rwan | ....DISPLAY=:0 xrandr was how i found the X/xrandr part was probably not the problem |
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| 08:29.09 | talin | hello. i am running debian jessie... i have some weirdness with locales |
| 08:29.36 | talin | locale -a says en_US.utf8 while my LANG is en_US.UTF-8 |
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| 08:29.41 | talin | and this is causing some problems |
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| 08:34.30 | jelly | talin: locale aliases shouldn't pose any problems |
| 08:34.32 | jelly | !ask |
| 08:34.33 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 08:37.41 | talin | do you know where these aliases are defined? |
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| 09:03.13 | eskatrem | Hey, I've some problems to run virtual box, I am told to run '/etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup', but there is no such a file and I don't know how to install it |
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| 09:05.13 | planetmaker | eskatrem, did you reboot since the update? |
| 09:05.30 | planetmaker | (I assume you experience this after a kernel update) |
| 09:06.33 | eskatrem | planetmaker: no, I did not do a kernel update, just trying to install virtual box |
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| 09:11.25 | Iridos | eskatrem, is that the virtualbox image from debian? and is this on wheezy? |
| 09:11.40 | eskatrem | Iridos: yes and yes |
| 09:11.43 | Iridos | eskatrem, and what is the "some problems" and what tells you to run this? |
| 09:11.56 | Iridos | because... yes, there is no such file, I more wonder about the problem and about the message |
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| 09:12.42 | eskatrem | I complete error message is here: http://pastebin.com/BExgZRKf |
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| 09:13.36 | Iridos | ha |
| 09:14.16 | Iridos | the virtualbox-dkms package should have made the kernel module when it was installed... |
| 09:14.45 | eskatrem | I installed it. maybe I should reboot my computer... I'll do that when I finish upgrating my distro |
| 09:16.18 | Iridos | guess you could try apt-get install --reinstall virtualbox-dkms ... or maybe the more low-level type dpkg -i /var/cache/apt/archives/virtualbox-dkms_4.1.18-dfsg-2+deb7u3_all.deb |
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| 09:16.45 | Iridos | the point would be to get some useful error about why the kernel module isn't there... or maybe it's there but isn't loaded |
| 09:17.29 | eskatrem | how can I see the modules loaded in my kernel? |
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| 09:17.43 | Iridos | lsmod |
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| 09:18.29 | eskatrem | ok, it's not loaded |
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| 09:18.52 | eskatrem | gonna reboot, since I installed virtualbox-dkms |
| 09:18.53 | Iridos | and there should be a file ... ls -l /lib/modules/$(uname -r)/updates/dkms/vboxdrv.ko |
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| 09:20.09 | mjt | where java (javaws from openjdk) gets information abot http proxy? |
| 09:20.29 | eskatrem | Iridos: I have this file |
| 09:20.40 | eskatrem | so rebooting now... thanks |
| 09:20.57 | Iridos | err |
| 09:21.13 | Iridos | he could have tried to modprobe it :-/ |
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| 09:25.48 | eskatrem | Iridos: yeah, rebooting did the trick, thanks! |
| 09:26.13 | Iridos | eskatrem, you could have just done "modprobe vboxdrv" :-/ |
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| 09:27.02 | ko_lo | o/ |
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| 09:28.02 | mjt | the thing with (http) proxies and openjdk is -- here, openjdk bundled with debian tries to use a proxy, while sun/oracle jdk goes directly w/o proxy. I'm trying to understand where openjdk finds proxy info... |
| 09:28.04 | big_wet_nose | hi guys, i hope i can drop my question here, in my logs i find a million of these nfs errors' nfsd: non-standard errno: -107 |
| 09:28.29 | big_wet_nose | via google and RFC's i was not able to find the issue related to this error code |
| 09:28.31 | ksk | hey guys. do you know any nice examples of how to do a rrrr |
| 09:28.34 | ko_lo | I think there a copy/past mistake in |
| 09:28.37 | ksk | eh, nvm. |
| 09:28.42 | mjt | big_wet_nose: #define ENOTCONN 107 /* Transport endpoint is not connected */ |
| 09:28.51 | ko_lo | https://wiki.debian.org/SourcesList#line-1-1 , I'm able to edit it but I'm not 100% this is a mistake |
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| 09:29.59 | big_wet_nose | mjt: thanks, do you also know if that relates to a client connection that is bouncing or misbehaving? |
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| 09:32.20 | darxmurf | hi all |
| 09:33.46 | eskatrem | Iridos: modprobe loads a module to the kernel? |
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| 09:34.26 | darxmurf | anybody is using Gnome3+Nvidia drivers on wheezy ? |
| 09:35.06 | darxmurf | the gnome I'm trying to configure is still in Fallback mode and can't force it to "normal" mode |
| 09:35.12 | darxmurf | the Nvidia driver is loaded and all |
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| 09:43.28 | Iridos | eskatrem, "man modprobe" can tell you more |
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| 09:47.46 | d3lphi | hi all |
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| 09:52.29 | eskatrem | Iridos: true, RTFM first... |
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| 10:07.08 | jelly | mjt: is there a http_proxy or https_proxy env.var set? |
| 10:07.28 | mjt | nope |
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| 10:07.59 | jelly | grep over /etc for that proxy doesn't show anything? |
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| 10:08.21 | mjt | I asked in #java, they told me javaws is a bad idea, and when I replied I use javaws to connect to a hardware KVM switch, they sent me to their techsupport... |
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| 10:08.50 | mjt | I already tried searching /etc ;) |
| 10:08.56 | jelly | oh, webstart. it might be getting something via the browser? |
| 10:09.14 | mjt | yeah, like this -- http://docs.oracle.com/javase/7/docs/technotes/guides/jweb/networking/proxie_config.html |
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| 10:09.33 | mjt | the prob is that I don't use neither firefox nor microsoft internet explorer :) |
| 10:10.24 | jelly | what do you use, then? |
| 10:10.30 | mjt | chromium |
| 10:10.42 | mjt | it is not configured to use a proxy currently |
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| 10:11.44 | mjt | there should be a way - apparently - to set proxy info on command line |
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| 10:24.50 | big_wet_nose | in chrome you could use --proxy-server= |
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| 10:25.48 | big_wet_nose | works for socks and http(s) |
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| 10:38.59 | mjt | big_wet_nose: i need javaws to NOT use proxy server. |
| 10:39.51 | mjt | jelly: javaws from debian icedtea looks at ~/.mozilla/firefox/default/prefs.js for proxy settings -- it is a leftover from my old use of firef^Wiceweasel... |
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| 10:42.09 | jelly | strace to the rescue |
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| 10:52.25 | d3lphi | hey all. I am running Debian Jessie with Gnome. How can i completely disable/remove the top bar of my desktop? I canot find any option to configure this behaviour. |
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| 10:54.48 | rgr | dconf-editor maybe? Which gnome is it? |
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| 11:02.09 | superrorc | hi guys! |
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| 11:02.36 | superrorc | is it a good idea to add debian backport repo to kali linux? |
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| 11:03.30 | ksk | superrorc: probably not, but ask kali linux |
| 11:03.55 | d3lphi | rgr: how can I find out which gnome I am using? |
| 11:04.01 | ksk | !tell superrorc about based on debian |
| 11:05.12 | superrorc | ksk: know it , and does it mean that i can use debian repos? ubuntu also based on debian, but mixing repos is bad idea |
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| 11:06.18 | d3lphi | anyone using Remmina? When I run Remmina in FullScreen mode, I cannot see the centered top bar when hovering with mouse cursor. The bar does NOT appear, I only see 1-2px thickness of its bottom border. Is that a known bug or am I missing anything? I am running Debian Jessie with Gnome |
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| 11:10.29 | towo^work | d3lphi, works fine here in sid and cinnamon |
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| 11:16.40 | d3lphi | towo^work: any clue where the issue could be related to? |
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| 11:20.08 | superrorc | ksk: from kali off site: " Any additional repositories added to the Kali sources.list file will most likely BREAK YOUR KALI LINUX INSTALL. " =( |
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| 11:22.17 | Walex2 | d3lphi: the top bar IIRC is called a "panel" and you can delete and add panels in GNOME when you want. |
| 11:22.29 | Walex2 | d3lphi: perhaps you ought to ask for details in #GNOME. |
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| 11:23.34 | towo^work | Walex2, wrong context |
| 11:23.46 | towo^work | Walex2, he does not ask for a gnome panel |
| 11:24.19 | Walex2 | towo^work: confused, he says "completely disable/remove the top bar of my desktop" a while ago... |
| 11:24.21 | towo^work | d3lphi, i have no clue about that, and testing and sid has the same version of remmina |
| 11:25.34 | Walex2 | d3lphi: as to the Remmina thing, maybe your virtual desktop size is just a tiny bit smaller than the remote one. |
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| 11:30.07 | towo^work | the remmina toolbar is ahost thing |
| 11:30.24 | towo^work | it doesn't matter, which size the remote dektop has |
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| 11:47.34 | martinus | Hi everyone. Could anyone advise if there is a method of installing software that wants to install apache (e.g., kolab) and rather have it work via lighttpd? |
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| 11:48.38 | nkuttler | ,v kolab |
| 11:48.39 | judd | No package named 'kolab' was found in i386. |
| 11:48.45 | nkuttler | martinus: where do you get this package from? |
| 11:48.57 | nkuttler | !tell martinus about equivs |
| 11:49.17 | themill | Packages would normally rely on the "httpd" virtual package |
| 11:49.21 | nkuttler | notice that this may break the default packaging. you should contact upstream that they fix their deps |
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| 11:50.05 | martinus | kk, so ultimately it's down to if the package maintainer specifies httpd. |
| 11:50.36 | martinus | kolab is in third-party repos BTW. |
| 11:51.06 | themill | So debian policy says that packages should use httpd; if you're getting packages from outside debian, they don't need to follow policy. |
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| 11:52.01 | d3lphi | Walex2: I tried various/custom reolutions, it didn't help. The top centered bar generally does not work when hovering. |
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| 11:56.11 | rgr | later versions of gnome are a travesty. They've gone the kde bloat route. truly horrible. I dumped it. |
| 11:56.12 | martinus | themill: Buyer beware in other words. :) |
| 11:56.48 | martinus | nkuttler: equivs looks interesting, thanks. |
| 11:56.49 | fortress | i'm trying to compile some SPARC assembly code that I originally wrote and compiled on a Solaris 11 system. I'm running Debian 7 SPARC, and compiling with gcc. The code is not compiling properly, either bugging at weird places, or giving the error "illegal operation" etc. |
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| 11:57.15 | fortress | am I correct in thinking that this is something that can be fixed by configuring gcc ? |
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| 11:59.30 | SynrGy | rgr: we can pine for the slim, less featureful desktops of yesteryear, but the reality is that users, on the whole, demand more from the desktop. fortunately, with debian we have choices. for those of us whose aesthetics are offended by gnome3, we don't need to use it. on the other hand, i know many people who are perfectly happy with it and welcome the changes. |
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| 12:06.46 | martinus | Thanks everyone, later. :) |
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| 12:14.57 | rgr | SynrGy: thanks for the lecture. But my point remains. Gnome was always fairly slim and functional. And, IMO (no the IMO), it became a bloated mess. And yes "we" do have choices. And my choice was to dump gnome and move to a hybrid of xmonad and xfce4. In my case its all about the apps and not to do with a DE trying to replace them as KDE so often tries and now Gnome is more frequently trying. I have no issue with others liking it - its |
| 12:14.57 | rgr | just not for me and, by reading online, not for many others who feel the same way. |
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| 12:16.41 | SynrGy | rgr: lecture? i think i came down on your side. you made a choice based on your aesthetic. that's a *good* thing. |
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| 12:17.09 | SynrGy | but to believe that it's simply a failure and nobody should use it flies in the face of evidence to the contrary. |
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| 12:17.39 | SynrGy | we strive to provide support here for debian. for better or worse, gnome is the default. attacking it is not productive. |
| 12:18.17 | themill | (It does however show that you don't understand the architecture of KDE) |
| 12:18.54 | SynrGy | sorry, "to believe it's simply a failure and nobody should use it" is an unfair characterization of your position, as you said "I have no issue with others liking it". well and good. |
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| 12:19.59 | SynrGy | rgr: so we're done? i only spoke up to try to add a different pov, not to berate you for your dislike of it |
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| 12:20.56 | SynrGy | anyway, yes, it was "fairly" slim and functional (though don't you remember how people have *always* complained about "gnome bloat" back when there was only gnome2? :) |
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| 12:22.25 | SynrGy | so the writing was always on the wall. |
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| 12:31.41 | njsg | is there some way I can tell the debian installer "please don't do anything that requires network connectivity during the setup"? |
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| 12:32.20 | themill | njsg: don't configure a network connection or pull the plug |
| 12:33.00 | njsg | hm, is there some way to disable it after it has been configured? |
| 12:33.15 | njsg | it also seems to want to connect to the mirror when it configures mirrors |
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| 12:52.34 | njsg | ... uh, debian does not ask which bootloader do I want? |
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| 12:53.23 | SirLagz | njsg: nope. It installs grub by default. you could always install LILO though |
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| 12:53.52 | njsg | sounded like something simple to include in the setup :-\ |
| 12:53.53 | themill | njsg: it also doesn't ask you if you wan vixie cron or bcron, thankfully. |
| 12:53.58 | nezZario | Um |
| 12:54.04 | nezZario | Debian has some wrong timezone data |
| 12:54.23 | themill | njsg: no, putting a million questions into the installer is not a good way of improving it. |
| 12:54.31 | nezZario | On the flipside, I'm up an hour early. But, America/Indiana/Winamac |
| 12:54.36 | nezZario | the DST date is wrong |
| 12:54.43 | SirLagz | njsg: Debian uses some sane defaults that suit 98% of Debian users. Up to you if you're in the 2% |
| 12:54.50 | SirLagz | to install what you prefer |
| 12:55.03 | njsg | themill: if those questions prevent people from having to uninstall a bunch of packages later, then it is |
| 12:55.11 | njsg | themill: you can always have some option to just use the defaults |
| 12:55.11 | themill | njsg: no |
| 12:55.28 | SirLagz | njsg: just choose not to install the bootloader then ? |
| 12:55.40 | themill | you have the ability to customise it yourself already, there's no need to make it more complicated for everyone else |
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| 12:56.47 | Stummi | njsg, you are still free to install debian via debootstrap if the d-i's options does not suffice your needs |
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| 12:58.10 | la_maquina | njsg: install debian with the expert option |
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| 12:59.09 | themill | nezZario: you're still in winter time, aren't you? |
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| 13:06.11 | sine0 | when you add a new user for a daemon what password do you set |
| 13:06.26 | SynrG | You don't |
| 13:06.34 | sine0 | so i just hit enter |
| 13:06.38 | sine0 | its prompting me |
| 13:06.40 | SynrG | no |
| 13:06.43 | sine0 | suod adduser daemon |
| 13:06.54 | SynrG | adduser --system |
| 13:06.59 | sine0 | ok |
| 13:07.00 | SynrG | You did it wrong |
| 13:07.04 | sine0 | ok sec |
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| 13:07.43 | sine0 | so what now i sudo deluser |
| 13:08.00 | SynrG | iirc |
| 13:08.13 | sine0 | its done |
| 13:08.23 | sine0 | sudo adduser --system user |
| 13:08.26 | sine0 | correct ? |
| 13:08.28 | SynrG | On bus. Not convenient to look stuff up :) |
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| 13:08.35 | SynrG | Yes |
| 13:08.38 | sine0 | k thanks |
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| 13:08.51 | njsg | la_maquina: hm, what kind of options does that give me? |
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| 13:09.00 | SynrG | Don't remember if that automatically adds group |
| 13:09.24 | SynrG | Man pages are wonderful things ... |
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| 13:42.59 | la_maquina | njsg: grub or lilo |
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| 13:55.07 | wsn | ola k ase? |
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| 14:04.33 | TheQuestionmark | Empathy in Wheezy doesn't support OTR yet, does it? |
| 14:07.40 | trem0r | no |
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| 14:09.03 | njsg | la_maquina: oh, I was wondering about what else has more choices, but I guess I should try it next time, then |
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| 14:14.18 | TheQuestionmark | trem0r, I'm curious, you by any chance don't know if it's available in Jessie, do you? |
| 14:15.05 | abrotman | TheQuestionmark: Are you sure it's not a plugin? |
| 14:16.41 | abrotman | I must be thinking of pidgin |
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| 14:17.35 | jelly | ,v pidgin-otr |
| 14:17.36 | judd | Package: pidgin-otr on i386 -- squeeze: 3.2.0-5+squeeze1; squeeze-security: 3.2.0-5+squeeze1; wheezy: 3.2.1-3+deb7u1; wheezy-backports: 4.0.0-3~bpo70+1; jessie: 4.0.1-1; sid: 4.0.1-1 |
| 14:18.11 | TheQuestionmark | I'm not entirely sure on this, abrotman. |
| 14:18.16 | jelly | abrotman: that one wfm. Amusingly, it works well over pidgin-skype, enabling relatively safe skype messaging |
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| 14:18.43 | mjt | jelly: is it unsafe overwise? |
| 14:18.46 | TheQuestionmark | Also although I'd love to use Pidgin over Empathy, latter has a much better integration into Gnome Shell. |
| 14:18.46 | mjt | (sp) |
| 14:19.23 | TheQuestionmark | For that Empathy neither supports OTR nor giving myself an alias on MUCs, different to Pidgin. |
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| 14:19.46 | jelly | mjt: supposedly MS was forced to hand over master keys to NSA, you tell me |
| 14:20.05 | mjt | what's OTR anyway? |
| 14:20.38 | jelly | mjt: think of it as pgp, one text message at a time |
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| 14:22.03 | johnfg | hi folks |
| 14:22.03 | mjt | ah, it is in the pkg description :) |
| 14:22.31 | jelly | Alice has Bob's pubkey, writes a message, base64 crap goes over the wire, Bob (or anyone with his private key) can read it |
| 14:22.53 | mjt | I misunderstood the skype context |
| 14:22.54 | TheQuestionmark | Pretty much what jelly said, a buddy of mine and I use it on XMPP all the time. |
| 14:23.16 | mjt | thought it is about encrypting skype video traffic |
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| 14:23.31 | tmh1999 | Hi guys, I have a wonder and I hope some one could help me :D Running $ dmesg, I have those warnings. Are they critical? Or I just ignore them ? [86593.953272] traps: gnome-shell-cal[25033] trap int3 ip:7f8fcd594d30 sp:7fff2cb10cc0 error:0 |
| 14:23.31 | tmh1999 | [86750.992497] traps: gnome-contacts-[25127] trap int3 ip:7fa47b9d2d30 sp:7fffce619630 error:0 |
| 14:23.31 | tmh1999 | [86751.162538] traps: gnome-contacts-[25167] trap int3 ip:7f6eec9dbd30 sp:7fffca67e650 error:0 |
| 14:23.31 | tmh1999 | [86751.301114] traps: gnome-contacts-[25176] trap int3 ip:7f6ab4cf2d30 sp:7fff559cab80 error:0 |
| 14:23.32 | tmh1999 | [86751.505314] traps: gnome-contacts-[25187] trap int3 ip:7f4b21d15d30 sp:7fffa10fb9e0 error:0 |
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| 14:23.37 | mjt | heh |
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| 14:23.50 | tmh1999 | [88101.285397] traps: gnome-contacts-[25707] trap int3 ip:7f4b8938bd30 sp:7fff2e7c3430 error:0 |
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| 14:23.56 | tmh1999 | [88101.680197] traps: gnome-contacts-[25756] trap int3 ip:7fa01bc3fd30 sp:7fffb752c8e0 error:0 |
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| 14:24.00 | mjt | a very helpful helper.. or not |
| 14:24.09 | Elderx | derp.. |
| 14:24.28 | njsg | mjt: it is just another way to encrypt instant messages |
| 14:24.30 | TheQuestionmark | I stopped using Skype once Microsoft bought it since they're forced to add a man-in-the-middle function to it due to their gov. |
| 14:24.37 | njsg | off-the-record or something, they call it |
| 14:24.42 | jelly | tmh1999: I'll unquiet you in a minute or two. In the meantime, put your paste on http://paste.debian.net and prepare the resulting URL |
| 14:25.10 | mjt | there's no need in pasting it all anyway |
| 14:25.17 | njsg | otr is still a bit new, I think, some programs are still having issues with certain versions of libotr, from what I've read |
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| 14:25.43 | jelly | mjt: the $100 question is which architecture has 48-bit addresses |
| 14:25.47 | TheQuestionmark | Can't say so, Pidgin handles OTR quite well. |
| 14:25.48 | njsg | amd64? |
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| 14:26.48 | TheQuestionmark | And it's a lot easier to configure from a enduser perspective than GPG is. |
| 14:26.52 | njsg | amd64 does indeed use 48-bit addresses http://enwp.org/amd64#Physical_address_space_details |
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| 14:27.09 | abrotman | TheQuestionmark: I've added some plugins for Pidgin+gnomeshelll |
| 14:27.16 | njsg | OTOH PGP/GPG brings other things with it |
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| 14:27.32 | tmh1999 | jelly : Thank you. I am pretty new to IRC and do not know the policies. |
| 14:27.35 | njsg | or does otr allow you to have trustable signatures? |
| 14:27.49 | TheQuestionmark | abrotman, Sounds good to me, just what branch are you on? Stable? Testing? Sid? |
| 14:28.01 | abrotman | TheQuestionmark: Jessie at the moment |
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| 14:28.11 | tmh1999 | Hi guys, I have a wonder and I hope some one could help me :D Running $ dmesg, I have those warnings. Are they critical? Or I just ignore them ? Here is the warnings. http://pastebin.com/2X6L20LR |
| 14:28.12 | jelly | njsg: by default it suggests ssh-like trusting the public key the first time you see it |
| 14:28.12 | abrotman | well, actually at the moment, at work, Adium+OSX :( |
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| 14:28.25 | TheQuestionmark | Mhh... here's to hope it gets stable asap. |
| 14:28.49 | RoyK | tmh1999: int3 - see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/INT_%28x86_instruction%29 - looks like debugging |
| 14:28.54 | mjt | abrotman: why a sad smile, do you dislike it? |
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| 14:28.57 | TheQuestionmark | I tried to put Jessie on this laptop past week, it's (unfortuanetly) closed Intel WLAN drivers no longer worked. |
| 14:29.00 | abrotman | mjt: loathe |
| 14:29.03 | tmh1999 | Actually yesterday I did $ mv /usr/lib/evolution /usr/lib/evolution.die |
| 14:29.11 | abrotman | TheQuestionmark: you probably need a newer firmware |
| 14:29.14 | njsg | TheQuestionmark: which WLAN card? |
| 14:29.15 | mjt | heh @tmh1999 |
| 14:29.21 | tmh1999 | and $ mv /usr/lib/tracker /usr/lib/tracker.die to prevent them from starting :| |
| 14:29.22 | abrotman | TheQuestionmark: if there's a regression, you should file a bug ASAP |
| 14:29.32 | jelly | njsg: but you can use it just like pgp if you want, and that's the safest option |
| 14:29.34 | RoyK | tmh1999: apt-get purge does that quite well too :P |
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| 14:29.46 | njsg | jelly: how do you use it like pgp? |
| 14:30.03 | tmh1999 | RoyK: evolution and tracker have the dependency is Gnome :| |
| 14:30.13 | TheQuestionmark | njsg, According to lspci, '04:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation PRO/Wireless 4965 AG or AGN [Kedron] Network Connection (rev 61)'. |
| 14:30.34 | njsg | hm, never dealt with these |
| 14:30.42 | njsg | I'd make sure their driver has been enabled in the kernel, etc |
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| 14:31.32 | TheQuestionmark | There shouldn't be any changes to it during dist-upgrades, right? |
| 14:31.33 | RoyK | tmh1999: ah |
| 14:32.02 | tmh1999 | RoyK: I am listening. |
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| 14:33.20 | tmh1999 | If these warning are ignoreable I would be happy. Just need a confirmation. |
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| 14:33.43 | RoyK | tmh1999: looks very much like ignorable messages |
| 14:34.40 | miroesq | I just did a fresh install of Debian 7.8.0 and am trying to install the package flex-devel, but can't find it. shouldn't this be on the main repository? |
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| 14:35.24 | bazhang | ,v flex-devel |
| 14:35.25 | judd | No package named 'flex-devel' was found in i386. |
| 14:35.36 | njsg | hm, how does one change the console keymap in debian to include one of the *.inc files (if these exist in debian)? |
| 14:35.45 | tmh1999 | RoyK: Thank you :D |
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| 14:38.14 | miroesq | bazhang: so it does not exist for 7. It was definitely available in 6. |
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| 14:40.49 | jelly | njsg: get the keys via some trusted, offline method |
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| 14:41.16 | njsg | jelly: with pgp, you also *sign* keys :-\ |
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| 14:42.02 | jelly | njsg: that is not enough to know the key signed by "jelly" still belongs to actual jelly person |
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| 14:43.07 | njsg | that's not how you do pgp |
| 14:43.26 | njsg | if jelly signs a key C and you trust jelly's key, then you can also trust C's key to some extent |
| 14:43.36 | njsg | that's what key signing does, and that's how you build a web of trust |
| 14:44.42 | jelly | bootstrapping that web requires physical (or some other sort of trusted) key exchange |
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| 14:46.11 | Rug | Over the weekend one of my servers locked up and i couldn't access it. (no SSH access) Once i got to work I noticed several 'Call Trace' outputs (indicating a kernel panic I believe). How do i diagnose what went wrong? Here is a sample of the message log output: http://pastebin.com/Vm2Tq1hF |
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| 14:46.20 | njsg | jelly: that is *exactly* how you use pgp |
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| 14:47.43 | eskatrem | hey, is there a command mprobe? someone told me that this morning to load a kernel module, but I cant use it on the shell |
| 14:48.02 | towo^work | modprobe |
| 14:48.02 | musca | modprobe |
| 14:48.06 | bazhang | eskatrem, did you mean modprobe |
| 14:48.16 | eskatrem | I don't have modprobe as well |
| 14:48.21 | njsg | there's also insmod |
| 14:48.35 | eskatrem | I just installed mcheck though |
| 14:48.50 | jelly | njsg: well, my point was you can use the same method for otr that you use for those initial pgp key exchanges |
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| 14:49.45 | njsg | but it's not key exchanges, it's key *signing* :-\ |
| 14:49.48 | eskatrem | strange, I get something with "man modprobe", but I can't run modprobe |
| 14:49.58 | njsg | eskatrem: are you root / UID 0? |
| 14:50.06 | eskatrem | no, I wasnt root |
| 14:50.21 | eskatrem | njsg: ok, with root it's fine |
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| 14:50.24 | njsg | it's not in the search path for non-root users |
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| 14:50.40 | njsg | as you shouldn't really be able to use it if you're not UID 0 |
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| 14:52.19 | abrotman | eskatrem: modprobe, might not be in your path .. try /sbin/modprobe |
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| 14:52.49 | eskatrem | abrotman: no, it's fine if I am in sudo |
| 14:52.58 | abrotman | .. |
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| 14:57.34 | jelly | njsg: no signing afaik, otr is dumb |
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| 15:06.29 | sydney_untangle | Can i have some help? I jsut stuck my realtek RTL-8185pci wifi card in my desktop, and i got it to connect to my wifi network once, but i tried changing the network and it wont work. Ive had issues with this card not workign after a couple hours in this box. Here is dmesg output. wlan1 is the card. http://paste.debian.net/159195/ |
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| 15:07.37 | sydney_untangle | Now it is not showing any wifi networks. |
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| 15:07.56 | njsg | several pages tell me to use /etc/default/keyboard to change the console keymap, but this file has variables with "XKB" in the name, is this really for the *console*? |
| 15:08.02 | sydney_untangle | at least i beleive its wlan 1 |
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| 15:13.52 | ACKNAK | Hello! Could anybody help me with silly problem - I've installed minimal version of debian without network |
| 15:14.14 | ACKNAK | and I do not have resolv.conf, so I've created it with "nameserver 8.8.8.8" string |
| 15:14.24 | sydney_untangle | ACKNAK: Go back and install full version or get internet? |
| 15:14.34 | njsg | ACKNAK: that can be filled in automatically by the DHCP client |
| 15:14.50 | njsg | ACKNAK: so you want to configure a network connection? |
| 15:14.50 | jelly | njsg: it's for both. /msg dpkg keymap |
| 15:15.10 | ACKNAK | sydney_untangle, is that so broken? :O |
| 15:15.11 | njsg | jelly: oh? I didn't manage to get it working, I ended up overwriting boottime.kmap.gz |
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| 15:15.14 | njsg | ACKNAK: no |
| 15:15.29 | njsg | ACKNAK: it's not, I guess you're just possibly handling the problem in the wrong order |
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| 15:15.54 | njsg | ACKNAK: if you have a DHCP wired connection, you don't need mode than a single line in /etc/network/interfaces (or something like that) |
| 15:15.57 | ACKNAK | uuhm but but I have almost working system =( |
| 15:16.13 | ACKNAK | njsg, I do not have DHCP around, everything is static |
| 15:16.18 | abrotman | ACKNAK: do you have a valid network config? can you ping the gateway? |
| 15:16.23 | ACKNAK | yes I can |
| 15:16.30 | ACKNAK | I can ping 8.8.8.8 |
| 15:16.32 | njsg | ACKNAK: ah, then you just need that line in resolv.conf, then |
| 15:16.39 | abrotman | ACKNAK: dig www.google.com @8.8.8.8 |
| 15:16.41 | abrotman | does that work? |
| 15:16.52 | njsg | ACKNAK: the resolv.conf is not working? |
| 15:16.54 | ACKNAK | there is no "dig" in minimal installation =) |
| 15:17.00 | abrotman | (his ISP might be blocking dns outbound) |
| 15:17.09 | abrotman | ACKNAK: host www.google.com 8.8.8.8 ? |
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| 15:17.27 | ACKNAK | abrotman, there is no host in minimal installation :) |
| 15:17.34 | abrotman | ACKNAK: neat .. |
| 15:17.41 | ACKNAK | but there is nslookup from busybox |
| 15:17.47 | abrotman | ACKNAK: and if you add that line, still doesn't work? |
| 15:17.53 | abrotman | (nameserver 8.8.8.8) ? |
| 15:18.40 | ACKNAK | I'll recreate it |
| 15:19.06 | abrotman | I mean, we could just put hte IP of the main debian mirror in your sources.list so you can fetch packages |
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| 15:19.26 | njsg | or in hosts? |
| 15:19.51 | ACKNAK | abrotman, nice idea =) |
| 15:20.08 | ACKNAK | yeah, in hosts could work too |
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| 15:21.53 | abrotman | would put it in /etc/apt/sources.list just so it's very obvious every time you update your'e still doing the wrong thing |
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| 15:22.57 | ACKNAK | just one time |
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| 15:24.11 | ACKNAK | I didn't know that it's possible to brake resolving :S |
| 15:24.39 | sydney_untangle | This makes no sense. |
| 15:24.47 | _lex | hi everyone. i've problems with multiarch: removed i386 (dpkg --remove-architecture) and any packages from dpkg db relating to i386 (purged), now the problem is that APT still reads i386: APT::Architectures:: "i368"; (in apt-config dump) how can i get rid of it? |
| 15:25.01 | abrotman | sydney_untangle: which part? |
| 15:25.10 | _lex | since apt-get update tries to read i386 from sources (sources.list, all directories + files do not have any i386 in their archs) i'm running amd64 |
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| 15:25.20 | _lex | W: Failed to fetch http://ftp.ro.debian.org/debian/dists/jessie/Release Unable to find expected entry 'main/binary-i368/Packages' in Release file (Wrong sources.list entry or malformed file) |
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| 15:25.36 | sydney_untangle | abrotman: Why the card doesnt seem to have issues but yet it wont find my wifi network unless i reboot. |
| 15:25.44 | sydney_untangle | No, the antenna is fine. |
| 15:25.46 | abrotman | rfkill ? |
| 15:25.50 | _lex | sources.list -> http://sprunge.us/FNRJ |
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| 15:26.47 | sydney_untangle | rfkill? |
| 15:27.00 | abrotman | judd: info rfkill |
| 15:27.01 | judd | Package rfkill (utils, optional) in wheezy/i386: tool for enabling and disabling wireless devices. Version: 0.4-1; Size: 7.4k; Installed: 60k; Homepage: http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Documentation/rfkill |
| 15:27.17 | _lex | sydney_untangle: usually you trigger it by the physical button of the laptop |
| 15:27.26 | _lex | wireless antena icon or something similar |
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| 15:27.41 | _lex | if is not separate then Fn combination and F<something> should enable the wi-fi |
| 15:27.51 | _lex | assuming it's recognized |
| 15:30.12 | sydney_untangle | its a desktop and a pci card. |
| 15:30.22 | abrotman | doesn't mean rfkill doesn't apply |
| 15:30.39 | _lex | oh sorry sydney_untangle didn't know the context |
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| 15:30.50 | _lex | most probably hardware (rfkill as abrotman says) |
| 15:30.52 | _lex | switch |
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| 15:31.19 | _lex | anyone knows how to disable APT directive for APT::Architectures? I want to get rid of i386 still read (i run on amd64 wheezy -> now upgrading to jessie) |
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| 15:31.58 | jelly | _lex: remove all the i386 packages, then remove i386 foreign architecture |
| 15:32.07 | _lex | already done that jelly is still read by apt :-( |
| 15:32.13 | _lex | (see above) |
| 15:32.28 | _lex | multiarch is disabled as far as dpkg is concerned |
| 15:32.38 | abrotman | apt disagrees :) |
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| 15:32.50 | _lex | apt is high |
| 15:32.51 | jelly | _lex: did you run aptitude update or apt-get update? |
| 15:32.59 | _lex | yes and it searches for i386 during last mirror |
| 15:33.13 | jelly | grep -R i386 /etc/apt ? |
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| 15:33.26 | _lex | run both + dselect update |
| 15:33.36 | _lex | jelly: nothing returns, i removed sources.list.d/ which had i386 |
| 15:33.43 | _lex | also in sources.list there's no arch=[i386] |
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| 15:33.48 | _lex | or anything like that; only amd64 default |
| 15:34.10 | _lex | also /etc/dpkg/dpkg.cfg.d/ is empty and dpkg.cfg is default (the flock and some other deafult setting) |
| 15:34.32 | _lex | dselect.cfg.d empty, as well as dselect.cfg (Apart from comments) |
| 15:34.37 | jelly | _lex: what does dpkg --print-architecture say? |
| 15:34.41 | _lex | amd64 |
| 15:34.43 | _lex | jelly: |
| 15:34.57 | _lex | now i'm upgrading to jessie testing... maybe i've some luck with it after reboot to have only amd64 read by apt |
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| 15:35.05 | sydney_untangle | abrotman: Ok, so i disabled wireless and reenabled it and now its workign again. |
| 15:35.40 | _lex | jelly: |
| 15:35.41 | _lex | <PROTECTED> |
| 15:35.41 | _lex | APT::Architectures:: "i368"; |
| 15:35.54 | _lex | the Architecture selected is amd64 |
| 15:35.55 | sydney_untangle | But that doesnt explain why it stops working after a time. |
| 15:35.57 | _lex | but i also have the i386... :- |
| 15:36.00 | _lex | makes no sense |
| 15:36.07 | _lex | how can i remove that? |
| 15:36.12 | jelly | _lex: is that a typo or does it really say i368? |
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| 15:36.25 | _lex | it really says i386 |
| 15:36.52 | jelly | _lex: is "grep -B2 i386 /var/lib/apt/extended_states" output empty? |
| 15:36.55 | _lex | # apt-config dump | grep -i arch | curl -F "sprunge=<-" http://sprunge.us |
| 15:36.55 | _lex | http://sprunge.us/IdVE |
| 15:37.07 | _lex | yep empty jelly |
| 15:37.12 | jelly | hm. |
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| 15:37.41 | sydney_untangle | But it gives me an idea of how to fix it when it does happen. |
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| 15:37.57 | _lex | should i just remove /var/lib/apt/lists/* jelly ? there are plenty of entries stored in files there that relate to i386 |
| 15:38.23 | sydney_untangle | Hum ath: phy1: RX failed to go idle in 10 ms RXSM=0xc8923d36 |
| 15:38.32 | jelly | _lex: no, but you can remove /var/lib/apt/lists/*_* |
| 15:38.35 | abrotman | sydney_untangle: keep an eye on your logs |
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| 15:38.48 | _lex | jelly: ok, i will try that and see if it works after jessie upgrade and reboot |
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| 15:39.08 | jelly | _lex: just redo the update afterwards, see if it still complains |
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| 15:39.25 | sydney_untangle | abrotman: I will. |
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| 15:39.54 | jelly | _lex: heh dude, it REALLY says i368 in your last sprunge |
| 15:40.17 | jelly | _lex: so... remove the i368 foreign architecture as well. |
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| 15:40.59 | jelly | I do not think your curl is dyslexic. |
| 15:41.28 | sydney_untangle | http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1514691 |
| 15:41.37 | sydney_untangle | i dont want to use ndswrapper. |
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| 15:42.26 | sydney_untangle | Oh, they have linux drivers for it. |
| 15:43.35 | _lex | jelly: |
| 15:43.36 | _lex | # dpkg --remove-architecture i386 |
| 15:43.37 | _lex | dpkg: warning: cannot remove non-foreign architecture 'i |
| 15:43.37 | dpkg | _lex: That isn't enough detail, post the whole output to a pastebin (/msg dpkg pastebin). |
| 15:43.41 | _lex | 386 |
| 15:43.42 | _lex | ' |
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| 15:44.27 | _lex | # dpkg --print-foreign-architectures |
| 15:44.27 | _lex | i368 |
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| 15:44.39 | _lex | mm jelly ? |
| 15:44.58 | _lex | # dpkg -l | grep i386 | wc -l |
| 15:44.58 | _lex | 0 |
| 15:45.10 | _lex | # dpkg -l | grep amd64 | wc -l |
| 15:45.11 | _lex | 1896 |
| 15:45.33 | jelly | _lex: you're a bit dyslexic, right? |
| 15:45.42 | _lex | it can't remove it :-\ |
| 15:45.47 | _lex | and i also have no packages for that arch |
| 15:45.50 | _lex | so/???? |
| 15:46.19 | Shadow_7 | _lex: dpkg -l '*lib*32*' |
| 15:46.41 | _lex | Shadow_7: # dpkg -l | grep '*lib*32' | wc -l |
| 15:46.41 | _lex | 0 |
| 15:46.41 | jelly | _lex: it's making you not see the issue here. Use this command, copy/paste it: "dpkg --remove-architecture i368" |
| 15:46.51 | _lex | jelly: see above for my paste on that |
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| 15:47.29 | jelly | _lex: please do exactly as I asked, and copy/paste the command from the quotes. |
| 15:48.02 | _lex | jelly: |
| 15:48.03 | _lex | ... |
| 15:48.05 | _lex | yeah... |
| 15:48.06 | _lex | :) |
| 15:48.08 | _lex | dyslexic indeed |
| 15:48.11 | _lex | dys*lex*ic |
| 15:48.15 | _lex | thanks a lot jelly |
| 15:48.19 | _lex | effin' typo |
| 15:48.28 | jelly | !win _lex |
| 15:48.29 | dpkg | Congratulations, _lex! You have won a lifetime supply of spam! |
| 15:48.34 | _lex | xD |
| 15:48.39 | _lex | god damn it |
| 15:48.53 | jelly | yeah well, it happens |
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| 15:51.42 | sydney_untangle | Hopefulyl i dont have to compile that driver... |
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| 15:51.56 | sydney_untangle | It doesnt want to make. |
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| 15:52.28 | shay_shay | man |
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| 15:52.48 | shay_shay | you think your nick is long enough? |
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| 15:53.35 | sydney_untangle | shay_shay: Me? :P |
| 15:53.58 | shay_shay | ya :) |
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| 15:54.38 | sydney_untangle | shay_shay: lol. |
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| 16:01.00 | njsg | ACKNAK: hey, did you fix your issue? |
| 16:01.03 | sydney_untangle | Seems like a few people have had the issues i have. |
| 16:01.45 | spanish_inquisit | oh nick lengths are capped on freenode :-\ |
| 16:01.58 | digdilem | nobody expected that |
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| 16:02.19 | sydney_untangle | njsg: Yep. |
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| 16:03.47 | ACKNAK | njsg, not yet :) seems like i've been firewalled badly |
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| 16:03.58 | ACKNAK | I cannot even wget something from 80th port |
| 16:04.14 | ACKNAK | while I can ping everything fine |
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| 16:06.40 | shay_shay | hey i just installed jessie and there were no tasks on the tasksel screen |
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| 16:06.42 | shay_shay | only standard |
| 16:07.08 | njsg | ACKNAK: could be, have you tried with some other UNIX-like system to see if this is debian-specific? |
| 16:07.16 | njsg | ACKNAK: or is this the first time you're making this network configuration? |
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| 16:07.43 | njsg | ACKNAK: if you've been firewalled, it sounds like you may be behind an ISP, they don't offer dhcp? or you're really trying to avoid that? |
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| 16:13.50 | ACKNAK | njsg, first time :) |
| 16:14.13 | njsg | ah, ok, then you also need to check if the setup works at all |
| 16:14.17 | njsg | I hope it goes well |
| 16:15.14 | shay_shay | is installing task-gnome-desktop after the installation exactly the same as doing it during? |
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| 16:16.22 | ca1eb | Where can I find a live CD of debian testing/sid or of a derivative distro? |
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| 16:18.10 | sydney_untangle | electrician |
| 16:18.10 | Rug | Any suggestion son how I diagnose a kernel panic? |
| 16:18.13 | sydney_untangle | oops. |
| 16:18.23 | Rug | any suggestions* |
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| 16:18.57 | big_wet_nose | sydney_untangle: are u talking about my electrician? |
| 16:19.06 | sydney_untangle | big_wet_nose: No! |
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| 16:19.13 | sydney_untangle | I was talking on another channel :P |
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| 16:19.23 | big_wet_nose | sydney_untangle: too bad, it's such a nice guy |
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| 16:22.52 | ca1eb | nevermind - found a lot via http://distrowatch.com/search.php?ostype=All&category=All&origin=All&basedon=Debian+%28Testing%29¬basedon=None&desktop=All&architecture=All&status=Active |
| 16:23.48 | Bremsstrahlung | I am at https://www.debian.org/CD/live/ |
| 16:24.08 | jhutchins | Rug: What release are you on? |
| 16:24.15 | Rug | 7 |
| 16:24.16 | Bremsstrahlung | And I need to make a live USB preferably with the Xfcd environment. |
| 16:24.23 | Bremsstrahlung | i386 architecture I believe. |
| 16:24.27 | Bremsstrahlung | What do I need to download? |
| 16:24.37 | jelly | Bremsstrahlung: do you want wifi to work out of the box? |
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| 16:25.11 | Bremsstrahlung | Not necessarily, jelly, I have a working ethernet connection. |
| 16:25.15 | Bremsstrahlung | But it would be ideal. |
| 16:25.16 | Rug | jhutchins: wheezy |
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| 16:26.28 | jelly | Bremsstrahlung: oh, then you don't need the unofficial stuff. How old is your hardware (why do you think you want the 32bit build) |
| 16:26.50 | Bremsstrahlung | jelly, it's an old PC, Pentium 4 with 512 MB RAM, which I do not want to run XP on. |
| 16:27.00 | Bremsstrahlung | So I figured I'd give it some use with a lighter OS. |
| 16:27.21 | polyphagia | Bremsstrahlung: you can install xfce from the net install |
| 16:27.35 | polyphagia | on the boot menu you can select your DE before you do the install |
| 16:27.38 | jhutchins | Rug: Check your logs and dmesg. It could be a hardware issue, monitoring software might be useful. |
| 16:27.46 | jhutchins | Rug: Is there anything that consistently triggers it? |
| 16:27.53 | Bremsstrahlung | polyphagia: I see. Any way to do it from a live USB? |
| 16:27.55 | polyphagia | just the normal 32 bit netinst ISO will be fine |
| 16:28.03 | Shadow_7 | debootstrap is nice if you have a bootable linux for it already |
| 16:28.04 | polyphagia | does it need to be live? |
| 16:28.14 | polyphagia | or are you just installing it |
| 16:28.23 | jelly | Bremsstrahlung: you don't need the live image then, get the installer image from http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/i386/iso-cd/ |
| 16:28.27 | Bremsstrahlung | polyphagia: I'd prefer it, would I have to mess around with LAN/DHCP settings or whatever? |
| 16:28.34 | polyphagia | no |
| 16:28.40 | Bremsstrahlung | I see. |
| 16:28.47 | jelly | !tell Bremsstrahlung about install xfce |
| 16:28.49 | polyphagia | are you on windows now Bremsstrahlung ? |
| 16:28.55 | Bremsstrahlung | jelly: How would I also run it with just an install iso? |
| 16:29.00 | Bremsstrahlung | I want to also run it. |
| 16:29.11 | Bremsstrahlung | polyphagia: Yeah. |
| 16:29.15 | jhutchins | Bremsstrahlung: pendrivelinux.com has some info on optimizing live systems. |
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| 16:29.25 | polyphagia | yeah pendrivelinux is what you want |
| 16:29.38 | jelly | Bremsstrahlung: you'd shrink any existing windows partition if it spans the whole disk, or you'd install linux on a second disk |
| 16:29.39 | Bremsstrahlung | I see. |
| 16:29.41 | jhutchins | Bremsstrahlung: You may find a normal install on a usb 2 drive too slow to be useful. |
| 16:30.05 | Bremsstrahlung | Hm, I see, OK. |
| 16:30.12 | jelly | 512MB is probably a bit too little to bother using live |
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| 16:30.21 | Bremsstrahlung | OK, aha. |
| 16:30.23 | Bremsstrahlung | Yeah. |
| 16:30.30 | polyphagia | yeah you should probably just go with installing it |
| 16:30.34 | Bremsstrahlung | So I may just go ahead and install it directly. |
| 16:30.36 | Bremsstrahlung | And not run a live OS. |
| 16:30.37 | Bremsstrahlung | OK, yeah. |
| 16:30.46 | polyphagia | your hardware is certainly capable of it |
| 16:30.52 | Bremsstrahlung | Probably. |
| 16:31.00 | jelly | 2GB would be better! :-) |
| 16:31.10 | polyphagia | xfce or lxde would be faster than gnome i imagine |
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| 16:31.20 | jelly | polyphagia: that's probably why he chose xfce |
| 16:31.21 | Bremsstrahlung | polyphagia: That's why I wanted xfce. |
| 16:31.22 | Bremsstrahlung | Heh. |
| 16:31.23 | polyphagia | yeah |
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| 16:31.35 | Bremsstrahlung | I was told KDE and Gnome would be ass on that syste, |
| 16:31.39 | Bremsstrahlung | m |
| 16:32.24 | polyphagia | i don't think it'd be unusably slow or anything, but xfce would be better is all |
| 16:32.25 | jelly | P4 has a low amount of cache and the way C++ apps are built on KDE seems to thrash cache a lot |
| 16:32.44 | Bremsstrahlung | Yeah. |
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| 16:33.14 | Shadow_7 | I tend to use SDHC cards and usb readers. Not that fastest kid on the block, but anything class 6 or better is good enough for youtube. |
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| 16:34.07 | Bremsstrahlung | Yeah, class 10 is even better. |
| 16:34.08 | Shadow_7 | If you're not much for bells and whistles, jvm is pretty light |
| 16:34.08 | Bremsstrahlung | Heh. |
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| 16:34.16 | sailcat | Bremsstrahlung, try: wget -c http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/7.8.0-live+nonfree/i386/iso-hybrid/debian-live-7.8.0-i386-xfce-desktop+nonfree.iso |
| 16:34.38 | Shadow_7 | jwm I mean. dwm if you're into that tiling thing |
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| 16:35.09 | shay_shay | dwm has openbox style window managing too |
| 16:35.10 | polyphagia | sailcat: he's on windows :P |
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| 16:35.20 | sailcat | ah... |
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| 16:35.22 | LSD_doesnt_harm | guys, i'm trying to get rid of systemd, the following command doesn't seem to work: locate systemd | xargs rm -rvf |
| 16:35.31 | LSD_doesnt_harm | any ideas? |
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| 16:35.35 | shay_shay | its a hybrid wm similar to awesomewm |
| 16:35.40 | polyphagia | what is the command for op alert? |
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| 16:36.16 | Rug | jhutchins: (sorry for the delay) There is nothing that i can see in the logs. AFAICT this has only happened once. Here is the log: |
| 16:36.19 | Rug | http://pastebin.com/vFYfs4mU |
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| 16:36.32 | shay_shay | LSD_doesnt_harm: that seems like a fairly violent way to handle it. why not use the distros package tools? |
| 16:36.40 | polyphagia | shay_shay: he's a troll |
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| 16:37.26 | shay_shay | polyphagia: oh, my bad |
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| 16:37.33 | LSD_doesnt_harm | polyphagia: i'm trying to make things work fast and efficiently |
| 16:37.41 | LSD_doesnt_harm | apt-get is too slow |
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| 16:38.42 | D-Boy[Office] | polyphagia: !ops |
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| 16:43.12 | shay_shay | youtube? |
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| 16:43.36 | shay_shay | oops, wrong buffer |
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| 16:52.57 | gurke_ | heyo... how do i give rights to a specific user like chmod 775? i need that for my www folder.. somehow iam not able to add a folder |
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| 16:53.32 | srg | I use letters. |
| 16:53.40 | srg | like g=r means "group" can "read" |
| 16:54.13 | gurke_ | how do i know in what group my user is? what is default for user 1 which is created by installing debian? |
| 16:54.22 | srg | ls -al |
| 16:54.27 | srg | lists owner and group and permissions |
| 16:54.33 | gurke_ | okay ill have a look =) |
| 16:54.35 | srg | each user accoutn has their own group by default |
| 16:54.43 | srg | like "srg" is in group "srg" too |
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| 16:55.11 | jelly | gurke_: "groups" or "id" commands |
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| 16:56.52 | jelly | gurke_: when you log in at the console, you will also see some additional, dynamically added groups you get at login time |
| 16:56.55 | gurke_ | ls -al is showing me my rights to folders |
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| 16:57.21 | d3lphi | is there any package available with which I can add an applet to my top bar in Gnome3 for displaying stock exchange rates? I am interesting particularly only in indices like DOW or DAX. I am using Debian Jessie 64bit with Gnome3. Any help appreciated |
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| 16:57.54 | mtn | d3lphi: if there is one, it will be on the gnome extensions website |
| 16:58.13 | gurke_ | jelly when i login it is not showing me the group where my user is when i log into it |
| 16:58.37 | gurke_ | i think rene (username) is the group also? |
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| 17:00.20 | jelly | gurke_: by default, a new created user also gets their own, separate group with the same name |
| 17:00.28 | gurke_ | i see |
| 17:00.45 | d3lphi | mtn: how can I access and install it? |
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| 17:01.11 | mtn | d3lphi: did you go to the website and search for what you want? |
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| 17:03.37 | gurke_ | so how do i set chmod for rene? |
| 17:03.46 | gurke_ | i tried chmod -r 775 folder |
| 17:03.52 | gurke_ | is that correct? |
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| 17:04.47 | gurke_ | i tried chmod -r 775 /var/www |
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| 17:04.56 | gurke_ | telling me the folder does not exist lol.. wtf |
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| 17:05.48 | d3lphi | when I visit https://extensions.gnome.org and search for "stock exchange" or "stock" or "rate" I cannot find any extension that is related to stock exchange rates. |
| 17:06.04 | digdilem | d3lphi, try 'ticker' |
| 17:07.06 | srg | gurke_: What are you trying to do? |
| 17:07.22 | gurke_ | srg i want to be able to create a folder in www and also files |
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| 17:07.38 | gurke_ | its telling me i dont have permissions to create a folder |
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| 17:08.11 | srg | gurke_: In my setup, I run nginx (it runs under the www-data user and group). So I have `chown -r srg:www-data /var/www` and `chmod -r u=rwx,g=rx,u= /var/www` |
| 17:08.36 | srg | So this allows www-data to read the files, and me (the user) to write to them too. No one else can do anything with them |
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| 17:09.01 | srg | Oh, you should probably not give +x to files though, so I wouldn't use -r for the chmod |
| 17:09.12 | srg | because html files should not be "executable" |
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| 17:10.04 | gurke_ | i run apache2 |
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| 17:10.43 | srg | Ok. I'm not sure what user or group apache runs as, you'll have to find that out. |
| 17:10.45 | gurke_ | srg what does u and g? |
| 17:10.51 | gurke_ | its www-data |
| 17:10.56 | d3lphi | digdilem: even when I use "ticker" as search keyword I don't get any result displayed. Well, is there really NO addon for displaying stock exchange rates on Gnome? I cannot imagine that :) |
| 17:11.13 | srg | u is "user", g is "group", and o is "other" (everyone else) |
| 17:11.13 | digdilem | ah. well, worth a try. |
| 17:11.22 | srg | user is the owner |
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| 17:11.47 | srg | It's easier for me to think like that instead of using numbers to memorize |
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| 17:13.11 | gurke_ | chown helped me |
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| 17:13.15 | gurke_ | thank you srg |
| 17:13.59 | srg | you're welcome :D |
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| 17:14.26 | gurke_ | weird thing is chmod is telling me folder/file not found ^^ |
| 17:14.35 | gurke_ | well doesnt matter.. i can create folders now :P |
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| 17:20.55 | Bremsstrahlung | Hm, I hope this is the correct place to ask... when making a bootable installer with a USB key, what filesystem do I need to use? |
| 17:21.02 | Bremsstrahlung | It's for Debian. |
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| 17:21.50 | foxil231 | hi |
| 17:22.03 | jelly | Bremsstrahlung: do not make any filesystem. Dump the image straight into the whole device |
| 17:22.31 | Bremsstrahlung | Dump the image straight into the whole device? What do you mean, copy the iso file? o.0 |
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| 17:22.44 | foxil231 | i want to try debian, i've installed standard live iso in debian site, but i is without desktop? |
| 17:22.46 | petn-randall | Bremsstrahlung: cp debian.iso /dev/sdx |
| 17:22.55 | Bremsstrahlung | ... |
| 17:22.59 | Bremsstrahlung | I'm using Windows. |
| 17:23.04 | petn-randall | Bremsstrahlung: /dev/sdx being the device of your USB stick. |
| 17:23.17 | jelly | !win32diskimager |
| 17:23.17 | dpkg | win32diskimager is much more reliable than <unetbootin> for copying ISO images to USB sticks and you can download it from http://sf.net/projects/win32diskimager/ . Adjust the file mask from *.img to *.* if it doesn't show our .iso images. See <usb install> and <install debian> for further details. |
| 17:23.24 | petn-randall | Bremsstrahlung: Ah, in that case use win ... what jelly said. |
| 17:23.32 | jelly | what dpkg said! |
| 17:23.41 | gurke_ | how do i refresh apache sites-available? |
| 17:23.49 | Bremsstrahlung | OK, downloading. Thanks jelly and petn-randall. |
| 17:23.49 | gurke_ | i changed the directoryfolder |
| 17:24.25 | jelly | gurke_: you're supposed to add virtualhost definition files there on your own |
| 17:24.41 | foxil231 | i want to try debian, i've installed standard live iso in debian site, but i is without desktop? |
| 17:24.49 | gurke_ | yea but i had to sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 reload |
| 17:24.55 | jelly | gurke_: yes. |
| 17:24.59 | petn-randall | gurke_: Refresh it where? sites-available is just a folder that holds all virtualhosts config, active or inactive. |
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| 17:25.43 | petn-randall | foxil231: It's with a desktop if you select it in the installer (which, IIRC, is on by default). You can also add a desktop after installation. |
| 17:26.09 | jelly | Bremsstrahlung: install guide covers this, btw. https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch04s03.html and there are some bits in debian handbook http://debian-handbook.info/browse/stable/installation.html#sect.install-usb |
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| 17:27.02 | foxil231 | petn-randall: there wasn't that choice. |
| 17:27.18 | sailcat | foxil231, what desktop do you want? |
| 17:27.29 | Bremsstrahlung | jelly: I see. |
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| 17:27.54 | foxil231 | i don't know sailcat |
| 17:28.01 | foxil231 | now i'm using lubuntu |
| 17:28.11 | foxil231 | i would try debian |
| 17:28.21 | foxil231 | would like |
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| 17:29.00 | foxil231 | i've 2gb ram and dual core of cpu |
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| 17:29.21 | petn-randall | foxil231: The live image is not the same as the installer, though. I don't know what the live image does upon installation. |
| 17:29.53 | MY123 | foxil231: x86, x86_64, Transmeta, ARMv6, ARMv7, ARMv8, Argonaut RISC core? |
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| 17:30.03 | foxil231 | x86 core |
| 17:30.08 | sailcat | foxil231, try: apt-get install lightdm xfce4 network-manager-gnome |
| 17:30.18 | MY123 | foxil231: 64 bits? |
| 17:30.50 | MY123 | ( it's worth noting that Transmeta implements x86 64 bits) |
| 17:31.11 | foxil231 | cpu e2160 |
| 17:31.17 | foxil231 | intel |
| 17:31.25 | foxil231 | i think 32bit |
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| 17:31.49 | foxil231 | i don't want install debian, i want only try it |
| 17:32.06 | foxil231 | so i chosed live standard |
| 17:32.15 | jhutchins | foxil231: Try running "tasksel" as root. |
| 17:32.24 | petn-randall | foxil231: Right. That comes with Gnome3 by default, IIRC. |
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| 17:32.27 | jhutchins | foxil231: Oh, this is a live CD? |
| 17:32.41 | foxil231 | now i'm in my lubuntu pc |
| 17:32.46 | jhutchins | !live |
| 17:32.46 | dpkg | The Debian Live project provides pre-built Debian live system images and allows creation of your own. These can be used to install a Debian system. Live images are available from http://www.debian.org/CD/live/ . http://live.debian.net/ #debian-live on irc.debian.org. |
| 17:32.50 | foxil231 | debian is in pen usb |
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| 17:33.44 | foxil231 | i go in that chat #bebian-live |
| 17:33.49 | sailcat | foxil231, you can add a desktop to your live boot with the command i gave above, but it won't persist to next boot. |
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| 17:34.05 | jelly | foxil231: note it's on a different irc network |
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| 17:37.46 | foxil231 | sailcat: the pass in the live mode what's it? |
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| 17:37.59 | petn-randall | gartwitch: Do you get an error if you try? What update did you do? |
| 17:38.06 | foxil231 | i must do that command without sudo before? |
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| 17:38.38 | sailcat | foxil231, you're already logged into console when you start. there's no password to startx. but don't be root when you startx |
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| 17:39.02 | sailcat | yeh, you have to sudo the installation command |
| 17:39.03 | foxil231 | ok now i try thanks guys |
| 17:39.21 | foxil231 | maybe it was better if i chosed before the desktop version :D |
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| 17:40.02 | foxil231 | standard means : no graphic right? only terminal |
| 17:40.06 | foxil231 | ? |
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| 17:40.10 | gartwitch | petn-randall: i only get an error on the client saying "write failed: broken pipe" and it was after running an apt-get update and upgrade |
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| 17:40.37 | sailcat | foxil231, right |
| 17:41.00 | foxil231 | apt-get install xorg xfce4 |
| 17:41.12 | foxil231 | ok i do it |
| 17:41.17 | foxil231 | see u later |
| 17:41.19 | sailcat | put sudo in front, though |
| 17:41.23 | foxil231 | thanks |
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| 17:41.50 | foxil231 | sudo apt-get install xorg xfce4 ? |
| 17:41.56 | sailcat | yup |
| 17:41.58 | jelly | !install xfce |
| 17:41.58 | dpkg | To install <Xfce> on established systems, ask me about <install x>, then: «aptitude install xfce4 xfce4-goodies» To install using Debian-Installer (if not using Xfce CD-1): from the Installer boot menu, select "Advanced options > Alternative desktop environments > Xfce > Install". |
| 17:42.17 | Rug | What could cause mdadm to change the 'file names' of created arrays? I rebooted my server and /dev/md126 & md127 became /dev/md127 & md128 |
| 17:42.30 | foxil231 | and the pass for sudo in live what is it? |
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| 17:43.10 | jelly | Rug: maybe those arrays are not listed by their ARRAY lines in /etc/mdadm/mdadm.conf |
| 17:43.25 | gartwitch | petn-randall: looking deeper, it looks like sshd is segfaulting when I log into my normal user /var/log/syslog:Mar 2 17:31:43 plank kernel: [ 1643.092251] sshd[8724]: segfault at b71f5fd7 ip b71d21ab sp bfb6b394 error ffff0007 in libpthread-2.13.so[b71cd000+15000] |
| 17:43.25 | Rug | jelly: thanks I'll check it out |
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| 17:44.15 | jelly | Rug: you can generate the initial contents for that config file using /usr/share/mdadm/mkconf |
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| 17:44.23 | sailcat | foxil231, mmm, i think it's empty, just hit return |
| 17:44.32 | petn-randall | gartwitch: What release are you running? |
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| 17:44.45 | gartwitch | wheezy |
| 17:45.00 | gartwitch | 7.8 |
| 17:45.01 | foxil231 | ok |
| 17:45.11 | gartwitch | petn-randall: wheezy 7.8 |
| 17:45.19 | Rug | jelly: thanks, that is/was the problem. I didn't generate it. Odd that it would 'survive a dozen reboot over the last year year and not have a problem until today. |
| 17:45.37 | petn-randall | gartwitch: Do you have any other releases or 3rd party repos added? |
| 17:46.38 | gartwitch | petn-randall: not that I'm directly aware of, i'll check the source.list though |
| 17:47.30 | gartwitch | petn-randall: sources.list just shows wheezy.. and I'm pretty sure I started on 7.8 |
| 17:47.52 | petn-randall | gartwitch: This shouldn't happen on a default installation. Sometimes things like that happen because of mixed distros. If that's not the case, use debsums to check the consistency of the installation, and if that doesn't show anything, check the RAM with memtest86. |
| 17:49.10 | gartwitch | petn-randall: I can't check the ram. this machine has no graphics output, at all.. and I mean *AT ALL* there's no GPU and no slot for a gpu.. |
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| 17:51.47 | jhutchins | gartwitch: memtest86 doesn't require a GPU. |
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| 17:52.30 | gartwitch | jhutchins: no, but it requires you have SOME way of hooking up a monitor to select it and run it |
| 17:52.30 | jhutchins | gartwitch: you can increase the verbosity of both the client and the server. You're saying it doesn't segfault if you log in as root? |
| 17:52.43 | gartwitch | jhutchins: correct |
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| 17:53.26 | petn-randall | It sounds weird, but I can't think of any situation that would result in such a behaviour with SSH. |
| 17:54.06 | jhutchins | gartwitch: Try creating a new user. It could be there's some file/permissions error. |
| 17:54.29 | DammitJim | this might be off topic, but I don't know where else to ask... for those of you who do IT... how do you ensure you are notified when there is a power outage at your server location? |
| 17:54.45 | gartwitch | jhutchins: I have |
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| 17:56.11 | gartwitch | DammitJim: generally you'd have a UPS that powers at least one machine and the networking equipment, really good UPS/Network hardware will be able to alert you, if only by email, that there's been an outage. |
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| 17:57.39 | DammitJim | gartwitch, thanks for sharing... we have that, but txts don't wake me up or emails (you know how it is... one gets hundreds of those a day) |
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| 17:59.08 | DammitJim | I guess maybe there is a service that can call your home phone? |
| 17:59.11 | gartwitch | DammitJim: you buy yourself an arduino, a *REALLY* loud alarm and hook up the arduino to monito your email for a specific phrase contained in the body of the email for the outage and when it trip, set off the alarm at max volume. |
| 17:59.11 | DammitJim | sorry, I'm going to shut up now |
| 17:59.42 | DammitJim | gartwitch, I love it! That's actually not a bad idea! |
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| 18:01.23 | accessjames | I've tried rm /etc/xdg/autostart/orca-autostart.desktop, but I still get that annoying "welcome to orca" when I log in |
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| 18:02.13 | gartwitch | petn-randall: does debsums show at the end if a package has failed? |
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| 18:02.55 | accessjames | And or course I've tried gnome-session-propoerties, and yes, orca is unticked |
| 18:03.05 | petn-randall | gartwitch: run debsums -c, then it'll only show files that deviate from the checksums from the package. |
| 18:03.21 | accessjames | but I still get that "welcome to orca" robotic voice on login. Aaargh! |
| 18:03.41 | gartwitch | petn-randall: running |
| 18:04.22 | petn-randall | gartwitch: Other than that, is the machine up-to-date? So 'apt-get update && apt-get upgrade' doesn't ask to upgrade any packages. |
| 18:04.54 | gartwitch | petn-randall: yes sir, this only happened after I had done that today about an hour ago |
| 18:05.33 | gartwitch | is there an easy way to directly roll back the last update operation? |
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| 18:07.53 | jhutchins | gartwitch: You could reinstall sshd and force the conf file |
| 18:07.56 | jhutchins | !confmiss |
| 18:07.56 | dpkg | You have to especially tell the packaging system to reinstall config files because when they are gone, it is assumed that you want them to stay deleted. "aptitude -o DPkg::Options::='--force-confmiss' reinstall $packagename" will restore them (man dpkg for details). If the package uses <ucf> for config file management, ask me about <ucf confmiss>. |
| 18:07.57 | accessjames | anyone help me out with config, please? |
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| 18:09.00 | accessjames | I want to stop Orca from starting when I login... but how??? |
| 18:09.38 | gartwitch | accessjames: do you need orca? or does another user of that machine need it? if not, you could always remove it |
| 18:09.59 | accessjames | well, I don't NEED orca, bt I might want t sometime |
| 18:10.29 | accessjames | SURELY there must be a way to configure GNOME so that it doesn't start Orca on login |
| 18:10.42 | petn-randall | accessjames: http://askubuntu.com/questions/81960/how-do-i-stop-orca-from-starting-up-on-login |
| 18:10.53 | petn-randall | accessjames: Did you try the solutions that google offered yet? |
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| 18:11.11 | accessjames | thanks petn-randall I did those things already |
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| 18:11.43 | accessjames | I have: (1) tried unticking orca on gnome-session-properties |
| 18:12.09 | accessjames | (2) tried rm /etc/xdg/autostart/orca-autostart.desktop |
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| 18:12.37 | accessjames | (3) tried chmod 000 /etc/xdg/autostart/orca-autostart.desktop - that gets interesting results |
| 18:12.38 | petn-randall | accessjames: the rm succeeded and you rebooted since? |
| 18:12.48 | accessjames | yes, and yes |
| 18:12.55 | accessjames | and Orca still starts! |
| 18:13.06 | accessjames | it's driving me crazy! |
| 18:13.09 | petn-randall | accessjames: Then simply remove it, and install it when you need it. |
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| 18:14.13 | accessjames | Granted I could do that, - but I don't want to! I want to be able to activate Orca whenever I want |
| 18:14.56 | petn-randall | accessjames: Then you have to keep on looking for a solution, I guess ... |
| 18:15.11 | accessjames | What I want to know is how I can configure this. GNOME's docs are currently somewhat poor |
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| 18:16.12 | accessjames | thanks for your time petn-randall! At least you've confirmed that I haven't missed something straightforward... |
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| 18:22.58 | sydney_untangle | Ok, it started having fits again. |
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| 18:24.15 | crhylove | How do I turn an audio CD into an .iso? |
| 18:24.19 | sydney_untangle | abrotman: here is the output of dmesg when it failed and now it wont re conect unless i disable and re-enable. http://paste.debian.net/159250/ |
| 18:24.38 | sydney_untangle | crhylove: Brasero makes that easy. |
| 18:24.57 | crhylove | I'm in brasero, can't seem to find the option. |
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| 18:25.34 | sydney_untangle | crhylove: "disk copy" "image file" |
| 18:25.40 | crhylove | It just makes .toc or .cue |
| 18:25.44 | crhylove | I want a .iso |
| 18:26.05 | sydney_untangle | It doesnt give you an option it drop down? |
| 18:26.11 | sydney_untangle | dd can do it also. |
| 18:26.19 | sydney_untangle | Never done it with dd before though. |
| 18:26.20 | crhylove | Just those 3. No .iso. |
| 18:26.24 | gartwitch | you know... I'm wondering if this installation is just hosed... aptitude segfaulted x.x |
| 18:26.35 | crhylove | dd fails with not finding the image, my guess is my syntax is off. |
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| 18:27.16 | sydney_untangle | crhylove: I dont know. |
| 18:27.51 | crhylove | This is my fail: http://www.wikihow.com/Create-an-ISO-File-in-Linux |
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| 18:28.31 | sydney_untangle | the networks are still showing up, i just cannot conenct. |
| 18:28.33 | trewas | crhylove: audio cd does not have a filesystem and audio tracks are separate (.iso has a filesystem which is written into one track), which is why you have to create cue/bin |
| 18:28.35 | sydney_untangle | connect* |
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| 18:29.30 | sydney_untangle | Any help anyone? |
| 18:29.40 | crhylove | trewas: OK, thanks, so what would be the procedure to eventually get a .iso? |
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| 18:30.08 | trewas | crhylove: there is no way to do that (from an audio cd) |
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| 18:30.43 | crhylove | I did it a long time ago in Windows I think using Nero. |
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| 18:30.56 | trewas | it used some other image format than .iso |
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| 18:31.24 | eldowan | what's that, nero? |
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| 18:32.19 | zh1 | nero is burning cd app |
| 18:32.21 | crhylove | OK, going to create a .toc than. Hopefully that works. |
| 18:32.31 | zh1 | i mean program |
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| 18:33.02 | eldowan | sorry, badly prhased question. thought someone was asking nero's iso format, nrg |
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| 18:33.23 | zh1 | sydney_untangle, shoot |
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| 18:34.48 | mdim | Hi all! |
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| 18:35.02 | mdim | I have a line like this in my /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://http.us.debian.org/debian/ testing main contrib |
| 18:35.06 | sydney_untangle | zh1: ? |
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| 18:35.19 | zh1 | <sydney_untangle> Any help anyone? |
| 18:35.20 | mdim | at the moment, that means that Jessie is the testing |
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| 18:35.46 | mdim | is there way to fixate it so that it doesn't change the meaning once Jessie is released as stable, i.e. to always point to Jessie repos? |
| 18:36.02 | centrx | mdim, change 'testing' to 'jessie' |
| 18:36.53 | sydney_untangle | zh1: Yeah? Can you help? |
| 18:37.10 | zh1 | whats your question |
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| 18:38.26 | zh1 | sydney_untangle, if you posted something previous sorry just entered now on channel |
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| 18:38.31 | sydney_untangle | I have a wifi card that likes to disconect after a while and to get it to reconect i have to disable wifi and re-enable it. Here is the output of dmesg when it doesnt want to connect. http://paste.debian.net/159250/ |
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| 18:38.36 | sydney_untangle | zh1: ^ |
| 18:38.41 | sydney_untangle | Ok :) |
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| 18:46.48 | Bremsstrahlung | So, anywho, installing Debian from a mimimum install DVD I burned -- USB was a PITA. |
| 18:46.51 | Bremsstrahlung | Wish me luck. :) |
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| 18:48.44 | sydney_untangle | Ugg, i cannot get the propriatary drivers to make either. |
| 18:49.05 | zh1 | sydney_untangle, by what see on paste is that authentication not being done, is card well installed, drivers? |
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| 18:50.11 | mtn | sydney_untangle: if you can't get that card to work well, you could get a linux supported usb wifi dongle. they don't cost very much |
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| 18:50.56 | zh1 | sydney_untangle, what card u have? |
| 18:51.07 | sydney_untangle | rtl8185 |
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| 18:51.31 | sydney_untangle | I just instaleld 2 more driver binary blobs so i guess we wil see what happens. |
| 18:51.35 | sydney_untangle | realtek ones. |
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| 18:55.42 | petn-randall | Bremsstrahlung: How was it a PITA? |
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| 18:57.15 | sydney_untangle | zh1: I guess i wait and see. |
| 18:57.31 | petn-randall | sydney_untangle: rtl8185 should work in Debian. Do you have firmware-realtek installed? |
| 18:57.45 | sydney_untangle | I think i just instaleld it. |
| 18:58.42 | sydney_untangle | petn-randall: Should i reboot to apply it? |
| 18:59.06 | zh1 | https://wiki.debian.org/rtl818x |
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| 19:00.29 | zh1 | sydney_untangle, previously did u use any firmware installed? |
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| 19:00.53 | c-c | Howcome apt-get install reports that packages were installed, but they were not. |
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| 19:01.25 | sydney_untangle | zh1: no |
| 19:01.30 | zh1 | https://packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/firmware-realtek |
| 19:01.33 | sydney_untangle | Ok, i installed and rebooted. |
| 19:01.36 | sydney_untangle | Yep. |
| 19:01.36 | zh1 | guess u need that |
| 19:01.41 | sydney_untangle | Now we will see :) |
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| 19:01.57 | zh1 | probably was lack firmware that card gets not auth |
| 19:01.59 | sydney_untangle | ubuntu didnt like the card, i remember that. |
| 19:02.14 | sydney_untangle | it would stop working after a time. |
| 19:02.19 | zh1 | sydney_untangle, your on ubuntu? |
| 19:02.20 | sydney_untangle | Worked fine for a while. |
| 19:02.23 | sydney_untangle | No. |
| 19:02.27 | sydney_untangle | I used to be. |
| 19:02.31 | zh1 | ah ok |
| 19:02.45 | sydney_untangle | ubuntu is naugty :P |
| 19:04.02 | petn-randall | c-c: How do you check they are not? |
| 19:04.05 | sydney_untangle | it acted the same with ubuntu 12.04 though. |
| 19:04.12 | sydney_untangle | Oh well, hopefully fixed. |
| 19:04.45 | petn-randall | sydney_untangle: If would also work to unload and load the kernel module, but that doesn't work if it's in use. So the easiest is to reboot. |
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| 19:05.58 | c-c | petn-randall: I have to install them |
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| 19:06.23 | sydney_untangle | Ok :) |
| 19:06.40 | c-c | (because files they contain are not there, and once I manually install them, they are) |
| 19:07.10 | c-c | It's this: https://github.com/csmr/jesbang/blob/dev/jes.bang#L185 |
| 19:07.38 | c-c | I'm hoping to move the installs to a debian metapackage once I figure out how to build one |
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| 19:10.28 | grek | http://lurn.amlaz.ru/566422/2224440/ |
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| 19:16.10 | jhutchins | !nmg |
| 19:16.10 | dpkg | The packaging tutorial (http://deb.li/QYyI) and the New Maintainer's Guide (http://deb.li/3DiDA) are good places to start learning about Debian packaging. You should also ask me about <devref> and <policy> to understand how packages should be maintained and how they should interact with each other. Ask me about <package basics>, <mentors>, <best practices> <build without helper>. http://www.debian.org/devel/ |
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| 19:20.01 | Bremsstrahlung | OK, so the system booted into Debian with xfce -- but every program I open, it's just a blue box. o.0 |
| 19:20.25 | mortal | systemd is weird |
| 19:20.49 | Bremsstrahlung | mortal: I see. |
| 19:20.55 | Bremsstrahlung | mortal: Any idea how to fix this? |
| 19:21.03 | mortal | freebsd |
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| 19:21.58 | hassoon | mortal: debian has init, not systemd |
| 19:22.15 | hassoon | Bremsstrahlung: that's not related to a systemd issue son |
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| 19:22.52 | Bremsstrahlung | hassoon: Oh, I see. |
| 19:23.05 | hassoon | Bremsstrahlung: do you open them from the DE? |
| 19:23.17 | Bremsstrahlung | Yep, not from the terminal. |
| 19:23.25 | hassoon | try from the terminal |
| 19:23.33 | hassoon | any graphical thingy |
| 19:23.35 | Bremsstrahlung | Uh, hold on. |
| 19:23.38 | abrotman | mortal: how is systemd related? |
| 19:24.31 | abrotman | Bremsstrahlung: Have you tried a non-gtk DE/WM ? |
| 19:25.00 | Bremsstrahlung | No, just xfce so far. |
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| 19:25.16 | NoImNotNineVolt | hassoon: doesn't that depend on the version? (re: "debian has init, not systemd") |
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| 19:25.34 | hassoon | NoImNotNineVolt: yeah, jessie has systemd p |
| 19:25.37 | hassoon | NoImNotNineVolt: not wheezy |
| 19:25.46 | NoImNotNineVolt | seems like a significant omission :P |
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| 19:26.56 | Bremsstrahlung | hassoon, the terminal is also a blank box. >.> |
| 19:26.58 | abrotman | NoImNotNineVolt: no, Jessie has both also |
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| 19:27.05 | hassoon | lmao |
| 19:27.08 | abrotman | so does Wheezy |
| 19:27.18 | hassoon | Bremsstrahlung: how did you install this system of yours |
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| 19:27.34 | hassoon | abrotman: no in wheezy, there is only init |
| 19:27.35 | abrotman | Tiny magnets |
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| 19:27.42 | Bremsstrahlung | hassoon: https://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ |
| 19:27.49 | Bremsstrahlung | i386. |
| 19:27.54 | hassoon | ah the netinst.. |
| 19:27.58 | abrotman | judd: info systemd |
| 19:27.59 | judd | Package systemd (admin, extra) in wheezy/i386: system and service manager. Version: 44-11+deb7u4; Size: 1420.5k; Installed: 3667k; Homepage: http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/systemd |
| 19:27.59 | abrotman | uhm |
| 19:28.03 | abrotman | judd: versions systemd |
| 19:28.05 | judd | Package: systemd on i386 -- wheezy-security: 44-11+deb7u4; wheezy: 44-11+deb7u4; wheezy-backports: 204-14~bpo70+1; jessie: 215-12; sid: 215-12; experimental: 219-4 |
| 19:28.08 | abrotman | hassoon: sure about that? |
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| 19:28.36 | hassoon | abrotman: oh dear.. easily writing system and autocompleting that with tab in debian wheezy's terminal gets nothing |
| 19:28.47 | abrotman | hassoon: can't fix your problems ... |
| 19:28.51 | abrotman | now back Bremsstrahlung |
| 19:28.52 | hassoon | abrotman: it exists in the repositories whatsoever |
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| 19:29.01 | hassoon | abrotman: what ? |
| 19:29.03 | abrotman | hassoon: it clearly does exist |
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| 19:29.19 | abrotman | Bremsstrahlung: can you try a non-GTK app? something simple |
| 19:29.19 | hassoon | abrotman: pre-installed with a wheezy installation ? |
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| 19:29.29 | dos000 | howdy .. |
| 19:29.33 | abrotman | hassoon: no, but that doesn't change the fact that it is available. |
| 19:29.36 | Bremsstrahlung | abrotman: Wouldn't "Terminal" be one of them? |
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| 19:29.44 | abrotman | hassoon: and also, you can have jessie without systemd |
| 19:29.48 | abrotman | Bremsstrahlung: xterm? |
| 19:29.50 | dos000 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:29.58 | Bremsstrahlung | abrotman: Lemme look hold on |
| 19:30.06 | dos000 | how do i make code that i compile to use this compiler collection ? |
| 19:30.06 | hassoon | abrotman: fair enoguh, i was pointing to the fact that it doesn't come installed with a wheezy distro whatsoever :> |
| 19:30.13 | abrotman | hassoon: doesn't mean he didn't install it |
| 19:30.20 | c-c | Bremsstrahlung: can you try simple apt-get update and apt-get upgrade and restart? |
| 19:30.28 | NoImNotNineVolt | abrotman: so i'm not sure why you'd say "no". |
| 19:30.29 | Bremsstrahlung | ... |
| 19:30.35 | Bremsstrahlung | Again, I cannot get the Terminal window. |
| 19:30.38 | hassoon | maybe Bremsstrahlung's gpu is malfunctioning? |
| 19:30.47 | NoImNotNineVolt | having both means "not systemd" is inaccurate, no? |
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| 19:30.56 | c-c | Bremsstrahlung: ctrl+alt+F2 |
| 19:31.01 | Bremsstrahlung | Let me try. |
| 19:31.18 | Bremsstrahlung | Oh, I see. |
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| 19:33.50 | Bremsstrahlung | Argh. |
| 19:33.55 | Bremsstrahlung | Hm. |
| 19:33.57 | hassoon | Bremsstrahlung: what happened |
| 19:34.04 | hassoon | Bremsstrahlung: ho are you irc'ing in the first place |
| 19:34.38 | hassoon | how * |
| 19:34.50 | hassoon | abrotman: well alright :> |
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| 19:35.27 | Bremsstrahlung | hassoon, I'm on a laptop also. |
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| 19:36.00 | e1z0 | accidently there was deleted /var/log log files |
| 19:36.02 | Bremsstrahlung | c-c: No new updates were installed, 0. |
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| 19:36.08 | e1z0 | now the log daemon does not re-create them |
| 19:36.13 | hassoon | no, what kind of application are you using to chat here, since everything you ope appear as a useless blue window |
| 19:36.13 | e1z0 | what to do ? |
| 19:36.15 | abrotman | e1z0: restart the daemon |
| 19:36.21 | Bremsstrahlung | hassoon: ? |
| 19:36.25 | abrotman | Bremsstrahlung: dont' bother |
| 19:36.33 | hassoon | Bremsstrahlung: dude..and you are operating #chat? |
| 19:36.34 | c-c | Bremsstrahlung: so, you could try to reconfigure xorg |
| 19:36.35 | abrotman | Bremsstrahlung: can you try anoter non-GTK WM? |
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| 19:36.48 | Bremsstrahlung | c-c: I see. |
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| 19:36.57 | Bremsstrahlung | abrotman: Lemme see. |
| 19:37.02 | e1z0 | abrotman, what name of the daemon on debian squeeze ? |
| 19:37.10 | abrotman | Bremsstrahlung: also, make sure you've done the `aptitude install xorg` ? |
| 19:37.10 | e1z0 | maybe the daemon is not working at all |
| 19:37.13 | abrotman | e1z0: which log file? |
| 19:37.22 | e1z0 | <PROTECTED> |
| 19:37.34 | abrotman | e1z0: /etc/init.d/rsyslog restart |
| 19:37.44 | e1z0 | ah ok |
| 19:37.47 | e1z0 | thx |
| 19:37.47 | abrotman | or syslog-ng or syslog |
| 19:37.51 | abrotman | I don't recall with squeeze |
| 19:38.14 | c-c | Bremsstrahlung: dpkg-reconfigure xorg |
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| 19:38.18 | Bremsstrahlung | abrotman: I think xorg is already installed. |
| 19:38.22 | Bremsstrahlung | c-c: OK, lemme try that. |
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| 19:38.41 | c-c | Bremsstrahlung: add a -p=low parameter before xorg |
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| 19:39.42 | Bremsstrahlung | c-c: So dpkg-reconfigure -p=low xorg ? |
| 19:39.52 | c-c | yes |
| 19:39.59 | abrotman | it's generally just -plow |
| 19:40.12 | c-c | and read carefully |
| 19:40.12 | abrotman | but it doesn't really do anything anymore |
| 19:40.13 | c-c | yeah? |
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| 19:40.21 | gurke_ | how do i display cpu and ram usage? |
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| 19:40.28 | c-c | ghostpl_: top, htop |
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| 19:40.39 | c-c | gurke_: ^ |
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| 19:41.01 | Bremsstrahlung | Read what carefully? |
| 19:41.05 | abrotman | my point |
| 19:41.25 | Bremsstrahlung | OK, so after this, what do I do? |
| 19:41.25 | abrotman | Bremsstrahlung: Again, try a non-gtk WM please |
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| 19:41.32 | abrotman | Bremsstrahlung: you'd restart Xorg |
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| 19:42.08 | Bremsstrahlung | Is it a service? I really don't know what xorg is. |
| 19:42.11 | Bremsstrahlung | Nor what it does. |
| 19:42.32 | abrotman | Bremsstrahlung: reboot the box |
| 19:42.35 | e1z0 | hmm after /etc/init.d/rsyslog restart the log's are not created yet |
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| 19:42.49 | Bremsstrahlung | abrotman: Ah, OK. |
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| 19:42.57 | Bremsstrahlung | BRB then |
| 19:42.58 | abrotman | Bremsstrahlung: there are other ways, but this is the most obvious |
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| 19:43.03 | Bremsstrahlung | Well, yeah, heh. |
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| 19:44.18 | Bremsstrahlung | OK, rebooting. |
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| 19:46.22 | Bremsstrahlung | abrotman: Ok, so it rebooted. |
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| 19:46.29 | Bremsstrahlung | abrotman: Now do I try to see how programs work? |
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| 19:46.58 | abrotman | Bremsstrahlung: I'm skeptical it will, but sure |
| 19:47.26 | Bremsstrahlung | Ugh. |
| 19:47.30 | Bremsstrahlung | Yeah, same problem. |
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| 19:48.42 | DHowett | I apparently have literally no reading comprehension regarding systemd |
| 19:48.57 | DHowett | I have a service unit whose ExecStart is "/bin/sh -c 'echo test >&2'" with StandardError set to syslog, console, kmsg, journal, *anything* and I do not receive any logs. :P |
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| 19:49.43 | c-c | Bremsstrahlung: so can you start some gui app |
| 19:50.07 | Bremsstrahlung | I already did, everything just has a blank box. |
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| 19:50.20 | c-c | Bremsstrahlung: ok, so, gtk doesn't work |
| 19:50.34 | abrotman | Bremsstrahlung: again, please try a non-GTK WM |
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| 19:51.00 | abrotman | Bremsstrahlung: You can't even run xterm, right ? |
| 19:51.08 | Bremsstrahlung | abrotman: I'll see. |
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| 19:51.29 | abrotman | Bremsstrahlung: how did you install xfce? |
| 19:51.39 | c-c | Bremsstrahlung: I think you either need a module/driver for your gfx card, or perhaps your gtk install is f"#"#¤% |
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| 19:52.57 | Bremsstrahlung | abrotman: Installer asked me what kind of desktop environment I wanted. |
| 19:53.08 | abrotman | Bremsstrahlung: okay |
| 19:53.09 | Bremsstrahlung | abrotman: As it's an old system, instead of KDE or Gnome, I chose that. |
| 19:53.18 | c-c | abrotman: what you think, would a gfx driver be needed for xfce? |
| 19:53.26 | abrotman | would have chosen LXDE .. |
| 19:53.30 | abrotman | Bremsstrahlung: what is your video card? |
| 19:53.36 | Bremsstrahlung | abrotman: I'll have to look hold on. |
| 19:53.47 | abrotman | c-c: "old system", F/OSS drivers probably cover it, though he might need firmware for an old Radeon card |
| 19:53.49 | phogg | abrotman: is that what you're using these days? |
| 19:54.04 | abrotman | phogg: Gnome3 on my regular laptop, LXDE on my netbook |
| 19:54.26 | abrotman | hugs his systemd |
| 19:54.40 | NoImNotNineVolt | humps his systemd's leg |
| 19:55.06 | phogg | abrotman: I've been admiring lxde from afar |
| 19:55.26 | abrotman | phogg: it works pretty well, I generally disable the trackpad, and use keyboard shortcuts to do the things I need |
| 19:55.54 | c-c | Bremsstrahlung: go to tty terminal |
| 19:55.58 | c-c | Bremsstrahlung: lshw |
| 19:56.00 | phogg | abrotman: I do that anyway. I keep an eye on it as a recommendation for converts wanting something a bit light; I'm married to e16 forever it seems |
| 19:56.05 | abrotman | my gosh .. |
| 19:56.18 | c-c | Bremsstrahlung: try to find your gfx card |
| 19:56.23 | abrotman | phogg: LXDE is a familiar interface for those new to linux |
| 19:56.31 | abrotman | c-c: lspci -nn | grep -i VGA |
| 19:56.35 | c-c | yeah |
| 19:56.41 | abrotman | so much easier, much less noise |
| 19:56.42 | Bremsstrahlung | c-c abrotman http://www.amazon.com/HP-Pavilion-Desktop-2-66-GHz-Pentium/product-reviews/B00008LUOE |
| 19:56.45 | Bremsstrahlung | It's this. |
| 19:56.51 | phogg | abrotman: Yeah. Glad to know I'm not too crazy for recommending something that I do not myself use. |
| 19:57.08 | Bremsstrahlung | NDVIDIA GeForce4 MX440 |
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| 19:57.11 | Bremsstrahlung | That is the card. |
| 19:57.31 | c-c | Bremsstrahlung: apt-get install nvidia-driver |
| 19:57.33 | c-c | restart |
| 19:57.35 | abrotman | I don't think the legacy drivers support that |
| 19:57.41 | abrotman | isn't that too old? |
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| 19:57.47 | Bremsstrahlung | c-c: OK, hold on. |
| 19:57.51 | Bremsstrahlung | brb |
| 19:58.10 | c-c | abrotman: many moons ago, I've installed drivers for older ones |
| 19:58.15 | c-c | (I think) |
| 19:58.23 | abrotman | is so glad he never buys hardware with nvidia inside |
| 19:58.45 | bynarie | hey fellas, when i boot up right before X starts I get this message -> usb 3-11: string descriptor 0 malformed (err = -61), defaulting to 0x0409 |
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| 19:59.03 | c-c | yeah? nvidia worked excellent when other didn't yeat with linux ime |
| 19:59.48 | Bremsstrahlung | ? |
| 19:59.54 | Bremsstrahlung | c-c: Sure that is the package name? |
| 19:59.59 | NoImNotNineVolt | i have an ati card and i can't run debian. my coworkers have nvidia cards and have no problems with debian. |
| 20:00.02 | phogg | Looks like 96.43 will support a MX440 |
| 20:00.07 | Bremsstrahlung | It says there's no such such package. |
| 20:00.10 | Bremsstrahlung | Unable to locate it. |
| 20:00.20 | c-c | Bremsstrahlung: you can apt-cache search nvidia | less |
| 20:00.57 | towo` | a mx440 should work with nouveau |
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| 20:01.05 | towo` | there is no need for blob |
| 20:01.05 | abrotman | I agree |
| 20:01.25 | abrotman | dpkg: tell Bremsstrahlung about non-free |
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| 20:01.30 | c-c | oh of course, the nvidia drivers are in non-free repos that you may not have Bremsstrahlung |
| 20:01.43 | Bremsstrahlung | x |
| 20:01.43 | Bremsstrahlung | s |
| 20:01.44 | Bremsstrahlung | sdgs |
| 20:01.48 | Bremsstrahlung | This is so frustrating. |
| 20:02.05 | abrotman | Bremsstrahlung: hence, I don't buy nvidia :) |
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| 20:02.16 | towo` | the last 96xx release is from 2012 |
| 20:02.17 | Bremsstrahlung | Well, it came stock with the PC. |
| 20:02.28 | towo` | nvidia does not support those cards anymore |
| 20:02.47 | Bremsstrahlung | facepalms. |
| 20:02.51 | towo` | and again, nouveau does handle those old cards perfect |
| 20:02.58 | c-c | it could be xfce4 is expecting a window manager that is not installed. Bremsstrahlung |
| 20:02.59 | Bremsstrahlung | Nouveau? |
| 20:03.11 | abrotman | Bremsstrahlung: lspci -nn | grep VGA .. what does it say? |
| 20:03.32 | abrotman | oh, 440mx .. nevermind |
| 20:03.46 | Bremsstrahlung | So don't run it? |
| 20:03.48 | c-c | Bremsstrahlung: apt-cache search nouveau |
| 20:03.53 | Bremsstrahlung | OK. |
| 20:03.57 | Bremsstrahlung | brb |
| 20:04.03 | abrotman | Bremsstrahlung: make sure the 'xfce4' package is installed |
| 20:04.07 | c-c | Bremsstrahlung: then apt-get install the one with xserver-xorg... |
| 20:04.15 | abrotman | with 'xorg' |
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| 20:04.17 | Bremsstrahlung | :/ |
| 20:04.26 | c-c | yeah, apt-get install both of em |
| 20:04.30 | abrotman | aptitude ... |
| 20:04.36 | Bremsstrahlung | OK, what do I do first, search for nouveau or make sure xfce4 is properly installed? |
| 20:04.47 | abrotman | Bremsstrahlung: aptitude install xfce4 xorg |
| 20:04.57 | Bremsstrahlung | All right, ahh, two birds one stone. |
| 20:04.59 | Bremsstrahlung | Hold on. |
| 20:05.07 | abrotman | instaling the 'xorg' package should ensure the nouveau driver is installed |
| 20:05.13 | abrotman | (it may not be using it, but we'll get there) |
| 20:05.48 | eldowan | is aptitude still recommended over apt-get? I recall hearing that apt-get was updated or something, and have seen a lot of online writeups use apt-get instead of aptitude. (I've been out of debian for a while, and am just getting back in) |
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| 20:06.04 | abrotman | eldowan: preference based on problem resolution |
| 20:06.18 | c-c | aptitude is a apt-get front |
| 20:06.22 | abrotman | no |
| 20:06.24 | abrotman | jesus |
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| 20:06.33 | abrotman | is getting tired of correcting c-c |
| 20:06.40 | eldowan | c-c: I'm familiar w/ what aptitude is, but thanks. |
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| 20:07.01 | eldowan | abrotman: gotcha. That's what I remembered from a few years ago. |
| 20:07.08 | c-c | what? I thought aptitude was a front for apt-get that allows interactive features |
| 20:07.15 | abrotman | c-c: No, incorrect |
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| 20:07.20 | c-c | I heard it right here on this channel |
| 20:07.28 | Bremsstrahlung | OK, abrotman, c-c, so it's unpacking and selecting stuff. |
| 20:07.28 | eldowan | though it *does* have an interactive mode |
| 20:07.29 | abrotman | Then you heard it from someone that doesn't have a clue |
| 20:07.33 | Bremsstrahlung | I guess that means some stuff wasn't installed. |
| 20:07.35 | Bremsstrahlung | o,0 |
| 20:07.37 | abrotman | Bremsstrahlung: let's see how it goes then |
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| 20:08.36 | centrx | c-c, aptitude has other different features other than just being a front-end, e.g. the conflict resolution of packages is different, I think that's the story anyway |
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| 20:08.48 | centrx | stickin' with dselect |
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| 20:08.50 | Bremsstrahlung | abrotman, c-c, ok, so it finished, apparently. |
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| 20:08.56 | c-c | 'other than' |
| 20:09.01 | phogg | c-c: they both use libapt-pkg to do apt things but neither one is base for the other. Their only similarity is skin deep (and general function). |
| 20:09.03 | eldowan | it'll search, for starters c-c |
| 20:09.12 | abrotman | Bremsstrahlung: again, restart the broken thing |
| 20:09.26 | Bremsstrahlung | abrotman: Okie dokie, brb |
| 20:09.28 | gartwitch | .cue |
| 20:09.32 | c-c | well, I only use apt-get and its cousins |
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| 20:10.23 | sai | Can any one suggest me any source file for packaging |
| 20:10.36 | phogg | sai: one that you need? |
| 20:11.05 | sai | phogg: could not get . |
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| 20:11.18 | gartwitch | petn-randall: you still around? |
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| 20:12.13 | Bremsstrahlung | OK, just logged into my user -- let's see how it goes. |
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| 20:13.16 | gartwitch | jhutchins: you there? |
| 20:13.27 | Bremsstrahlung | Ugh. |
| 20:13.28 | Bremsstrahlung | Same thing. |
| 20:13.33 | sai | phag: can I build a package for a program adding two integers (for learning purpose) ? |
| 20:13.45 | Bremsstrahlung | Still giving blank boxes for programs. : |
| 20:13.46 | Bremsstrahlung | :/ |
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| 20:14.25 | c-c | Bremsstrahlung: ok, try finding the nouveau and installing it |
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| 20:14.35 | ikonia | bynarie: that error is from your ubuntu install |
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| 20:14.37 | ikonia | not debian |
| 20:14.41 | ikonia | this channel is for debian |
| 20:14.45 | c-c | Bremsstrahlung: or just install lxde |
| 20:14.55 | Bremsstrahlung | Hm. |
| 20:14.58 | trewas | gartwitch: ? |
| 20:15.16 | c-c | Bremsstrahlung: also, did you select which session from the login manager? |
| 20:15.32 | Bremsstrahlung | c-c: What do you mean? |
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| 20:15.53 | c-c | logging in, did you select session? |
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| 20:16.30 | gartwitch | chews on debian's aptitude |
| 20:16.33 | Bremsstrahlung | c-c: I just logged into my user. |
| 20:16.36 | Bremsstrahlung | With its password. |
| 20:16.37 | abrotman | looks at ikonia |
| 20:16.59 | jhutchins | !tell sai about nmg |
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| 20:17.49 | Bremsstrahlung | abrotman, c-c, I think I will just try lxde https://wiki.debian.org/LXDE#Installation |
| 20:17.56 | abrotman | Bremsstrahlung: Could we try installing blackbox or fluxbox and trying that? |
| 20:18.14 | abrotman | or ratpoison or tritium |
| 20:18.23 | Bremsstrahlung | abrotman: OK, what do I need to do? |
| 20:18.40 | ikonia | returns a look to abrotman |
| 20:18.51 | sai | jhutchins: what is nmg ? |
| 20:18.53 | abrotman | Bremsstrahlung: aptitude install fluxbox |
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| 20:18.56 | abrotman | sai: see what the bot told you |
| 20:19.00 | eldowan | sai: check your pms from dpkg |
| 20:19.04 | gartwitch | jhutchins: OK, I found part of my problem... I somehow managed to botch up my profile skeletons... which explains why all users but root were f-ed up... |
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| 20:19.59 | sai | eldowan : pms ? |
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| 20:20.31 | bynarie | ikonia, what are u talking about from my install? |
| 20:20.34 | gartwitch | petn-randall: I found half my issue, my skeleton for users was screwed up |
| 20:20.35 | jhutchins | sai: The New Maintainers' Guide, it has info on building packages. |
| 20:20.46 | jhutchins | gartwitch: What is this headless device? |
| 20:21.11 | ikonia | bynarie: I was just clarifying that the error you asked for help with was from your ubuntu system, |
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| 20:21.20 | gartwitch | jhutchins: it's an intel galileo |
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| 20:21.37 | bynarie | ikonia, ur an idiot but whats ur point ubuntu or not |
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| 20:21.56 | ikonia | sorry, my point was that this channel was for Debian, |
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| 20:22.10 | bynarie | ubuntu is debian based so basically its the same |
| 20:22.17 | sai | jhutchins: Yeah I tried that but it says about the packaging but remains silent about getting source just asks to check WNPP |
| 20:22.23 | ikonia | no, it's not |
| 20:22.25 | bynarie | i know ur one of those ubuntu assholes who is a robot |
| 20:22.31 | bynarie | yep it is |
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| 20:22.38 | ctmjr | !ubuntu |
| 20:22.38 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
| 20:22.39 | bynarie | i can buy a book on debian |
| 20:22.47 | bynarie | and it will apply to ubuntu |
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| 20:23.12 | NoImNotNineVolt | only archeaologists know ur. |
| 20:23.16 | bynarie | ive even asked users in here before it that would be ok |
| 20:23.18 | jhutchins | gartwitch: You _could_ get video out if you really wanted it. USB or PCIE |
| 20:23.21 | RoyK | bynarie: calling people idiots won't make them any more friendly... |
| 20:23.21 | bynarie | and they said im ok |
| 20:23.22 | gartwitch | bynarie: no, not at all.. calling Ubuntu and Debian the same is like saying OSX and BSD are the same... they're very *SIMILAR* and have common roots.. but they are about the same as a tangarine is to a naval orange |
| 20:23.22 | NoImNotNineVolt | and you're no archaeologist. |
| 20:23.27 | gurke_ | what is the word what i search for in the php.ini for maximum file size upload? |
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| 20:23.32 | ctmjr | bynarie: your sooo wrong |
| 20:23.53 | bynarie | ctmjr, im wrong by saying ubuntu is based on debian? how so |
| 20:24.06 | RoyK | "based on" != "equal to" |
| 20:24.13 | gartwitch | bynarie: you're wrong in saying they're the same |
| 20:24.15 | bynarie | yes im aware |
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| 20:24.27 | bynarie | i didnt mean same. i meant similar my bad |
| 20:24.30 | RoyK | bynarie: try #debian |
| 20:24.33 | gurke_ | is it post_max_size? |
| 20:24.39 | bynarie | RoyK, im in #debian |
| 20:24.52 | syco_ | gurke_, upload_max_filesize |
| 20:25.00 | gurke_ | thank syco_ |
| 20:25.16 | syco_ | check post_max_size eventually |
| 20:25.25 | Bremsstrahlung | abrotman: Done. |
| 20:25.33 | gartwitch | jhutchins: anyway, i've fixed my profile skeleton, but how do I rebuild my user from that without deleting all my stuff from /home/$USER |
| 20:25.51 | abrotman | Bremsstrahlung: so try to use then when you login? |
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| 20:26.27 | bynarie | ok fellas im out.. have a nice day.. ikonia , dont be a punk and ban me for calling u a name. i got many servers i could go thru and go back to ur chan and troll all day but i dont feel like it |
| 20:26.51 | RoyK | hehe - that's a nice way to ask for not being banned ;) |
| 20:26.58 | jhutchins | gartwitch: Adding a new user would be easiest, but you can just implement your changes to the skel files on the user files. |
| 20:27.03 | NoImNotNineVolt | bynarie: k tnx bro |
| 20:27.13 | gartwitch | bynarie: ikonia may be a jerk, but you're being a down-right jackaass |
| 20:27.27 | ikonia | gartwitch: errrr "thanks" I think |
| 20:27.31 | RoyK | gartwitch++ |
| 20:27.39 | bynarie | k |
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| 20:27.51 | NoImNotNineVolt | bynarie: you write like a tween. |
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| 20:27.59 | abrotman | enough of that |
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| 20:28.46 | gartwitch | jhutchins: yep, but how do i overwrite my user with the skel, and keep all my data? |
| 20:29.02 | jhutchins | gartwitch: Just do it manually, file by file. |
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| 20:29.18 | gartwitch | ugh... |
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| 20:29.57 | jhutchins | gartwitch: Also see man install - but be careful. You might make a backup first. |
| 20:30.09 | abrotman | gartwitch: just use a for loop to overwrite the files? |
| 20:30.18 | gurke_ | how to restart apache? |
| 20:30.33 | gartwitch | i think i'll nuke the user x.x |
| 20:30.47 | abrotman | gurke_: /etc/init.d/apache restart |
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| 20:31.22 | RoyK | or apache2ctl restart |
| 20:31.29 | RoyK | or apache2ctl graceful |
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| 20:31.41 | RoyK | or perhaps reading up a bit ;) |
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| 20:33.03 | Bremsstrahlung | abrotman: OK, hold on -- what exactly does fluxbox do? |
| 20:33.17 | abrotman | it's a WM |
| 20:33.26 | abrotman | (though it is GTK now that I think of it :( ) |
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| 20:34.26 | gartwitch | Bremsstrahlung: try enlightenment |
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| 20:35.19 | syco_ | enlightenment is not packaged i think |
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| 20:35.23 | Bremsstrahlung | abrotman: lol |
| 20:35.26 | Bremsstrahlung | abrotman: No problem. |
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| 20:38.24 | abrotman | Bremsstrahlung: so are you using xdm? gdm? kdm? |
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| 20:39.15 | Bremsstrahlung | abrotman: In all honesty, absolutely no clue. :D I know it's the latest Debian stable with xfce -- but I'm tired now, and I just want to install and see lxde. |
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| 20:39.55 | abrotman | Bremsstrahlung: so go for it :) |
| 20:40.05 | abrotman | Bremsstrahlung: are you typign startx? or logging in via a GUI? |
| 20:40.20 | Bremsstrahlung | GUI. |
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| 20:40.27 | abrotman | do you know which one? |
| 20:40.53 | Bremsstrahlung | I'm not quite sure -- but I am guessing the default xfce one? I don't think I was given a choice afaik |
| 20:41.48 | ctmjr | lightdm is the default for xfce |
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| 20:42.21 | syco_ | Bremsstrahlung, maybe try to open another s session (startx -- :1) just to see if it's the DM |
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| 20:42.38 | syco_ | s/s/x |
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| 20:43.04 | DasEi | Hi there, I got a problem here: I usevbox and have crypted debian there, which refuses right password at boot. I sofar hanged the vdi to another VM, password there is working fine, I'm currently chrooted' in the broken debian. updates work well, I did an update-grub, kernels are found. I oc beforehand e2fscked the decrypted partitions. trying to change the password was not possible.Currently in another window I'm chrooted in by-as said- another ins |
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| 20:43.33 | Pinchiukas | In Jessie, I change the start() function in /etc/init.d/dnsmasq but I don't get the effect. And for some reason it seems that start_resolvconf() is executed. Could anyone point me to why that is? |
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| 20:51.05 | Bremsstrahlung | Hm, OK -- what display manager did lxde use? gmd3 or lightdm? |
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| 20:51.26 | Bremsstrahlung | I installed lxde and it complained that those two are installed. |
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| 20:51.55 | centrx | Bremsstrahlung, probably lxdm |
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| 20:52.27 | Bremsstrahlung | centrx: That isn't an option, afaik |
| 20:52.35 | DasEi | Bremsstrahlung: gues llxdm |
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| 20:52.45 | DasEi | guess* |
| 20:53.20 | Bremsstrahlung | The two options I'm given are gmd3 or lightdm. |
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| 20:54.09 | centrx | gdm is from Gnome |
| 20:54.15 | centrx | lightdm is more lightweight |
| 20:54.21 | Bremsstrahlung | I see. |
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| 20:55.36 | DasEi | Bremsstrahlung: AH, my bad lxde is a desktop environment itself, just forgot what distro shipped it |
| 20:55.49 | Bremsstrahlung | Ubuntu and Debian, apparently. |
| 20:55.52 | Bremsstrahlung | From what I see. |
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| 20:56.24 | DasEi | Bremsstrahlung: distro is lubuntu (I GUESS again ;) ) |
| 20:56.31 | Bremsstrahlung | Yah. |
| 20:56.47 | c-c | Bremsstrahlung: so, you are using lubuntu? |
| 20:57.09 | c-c | wait, I think I remember seeing a debian netinstall link, never mind |
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| 20:58.00 | Bremsstrahlung | No. |
| 20:58.01 | Bremsstrahlung | And wtf? |
| 20:58.01 | DasEi | o-c:possible for minimal-install then, they pre-offer lightweight WM's |
| 20:58.07 | Bremsstrahlung | Why isn't it accepting my password anymore???? |
| 20:58.13 | Bremsstrahlung | I didn't change anything. |
| 20:58.45 | DasEi | Bremsstrahlung: I currently have a luks problem, your user/root PW ? |
| 20:58.54 | Bremsstrahlung | User. |
| 20:59.00 | Bremsstrahlung | Lemme try root one. |
| 20:59.06 | DasEi | Bremsstrahlung: change it as root |
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| 20:59.38 | Bremsstrahlung | wth |
| 20:59.45 | DasEi | so ? |
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| 21:00.58 | hassoon | that's debian's developper :O https://www.linkedin.com/in/imurdock |
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| 21:01.09 | DasEi | Bremsstrahlung: can you su from a user dash ? |
| 21:01.30 | Bremsstrahlung | DasEi, yup, just did. |
| 21:01.42 | Bremsstrahlung | Now I have to look up how to change password from terminal. |
| 21:01.49 | Bremsstrahlung | I don't know wtf happened. |
| 21:01.50 | DasEi | passwd <username> |
| 21:01.55 | Bremsstrahlung | It randomly stopped accepting my password. |
| 21:02.27 | DasEi | f.e. passwd Bremstarhlung .. there you go |
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| 21:04.12 | DasEi | Bremsstrahlung: I got a wierder Problem here, a crypted looks that botts, prompts for past and doesen't exept correct one; hooked to another machine I can even chroot in and do all stuff .... wierd |
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| 21:04.32 | DasEi | boots* |
| 21:04.46 | Deicide34 | Is pcmanFM the lightest GUI FM in Debian Wheezy repos? |
| 21:05.12 | Bremsstrahlung | OK. |
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| 21:05.19 | Bremsstrahlung | DasEi: Weird. |
| 21:05.31 | Bremsstrahlung | Anywho, managed to boot into lxde. |
| 21:05.33 | Bremsstrahlung | lemme try it out |
| 21:06.13 | Bremsstrahlung | All right, cool beans, |
| 21:06.21 | DasEi | Bremsstrahlung: Have fun (and don't forget passes (duck)) |
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| 21:06.46 | Bremsstrahlung | abrotman, c-c, petn-randall, hassoon, DasEi, everyone else who helped, managed to work around by using another DE. |
| 21:06.51 | Bremsstrahlung | Thanks! :) |
| 21:06.57 | DasEi | np |
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| 21:08.47 | abrotman | Bremsstrahlung: good |
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| 21:09.47 | Bremsstrahlung | Hm, is it usual for IceWeasel to not play YouTube videos? |
| 21:09.59 | Bremsstrahlung | Apparently this IceWeasel thing is the default browser. |
| 21:10.01 | hassoon | Bremsstrahlung: get eh flashplayer plugin |
| 21:10.07 | hassoon | *the * |
| 21:10.08 | Bremsstrahlung | Oh, duh, it isn't pre-installed? |
| 21:10.15 | hassoon | Bremsstrahlung: no . |
| 21:10.18 | Deicide34 | it's non-free |
| 21:10.21 | Bremsstrahlung | I guess that's for a reason. |
| 21:10.22 | Bremsstrahlung | Yeah, that, |
| 21:10.35 | Bremsstrahlung | And also maybe because of security, I dunno. |
| 21:10.43 | DasEi | Bremsstrahlung: flashplugin-nonfree |
| 21:10.48 | Deicide34 | But the plugin itself is in the contrib section |
| 21:10.55 | hassoon | Bremsstrahlung: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree |
| 21:11.20 | Bremsstrahlung | Yeah, I'll do that later. |
| 21:11.22 | hassoon | Bremsstrahlung: add contrib non-free to your /etc/apt/sources.list |
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| 21:11.46 | Deicide34 | also, if you havent configured sudo, go into root instead |
| 21:11.47 | DasEi | Bremsstrahlung: also you might get vlc* package, they provide plugind, too |
| 21:12.03 | DasEi | plugins* |
| 21:12.07 | Bremsstrahlung | So, anywho, I need to also uninstall Fluxbox and xfce. |
| 21:12.18 | Bremsstrahlung | Since it seems lxde is working. |
| 21:12.24 | Bremsstrahlung | And the others gave issues because of gtk or w/e. |
| 21:12.25 | hassoon | Bremsstrahlung: or just get the latest flash plugin from adobe' site ad install it manually (easy task described in a readme file too ) |
| 21:12.31 | Bremsstrahlung | I see. |
| 21:12.37 | DasEi | Bremsstrahlung: feel free to, thus no need |
| 21:12.51 | abrotman | hassoon: no, don't tell people that |
| 21:12.52 | abrotman | wtf |
| 21:12.52 | hassoon | Bremsstrahlung: do you want another good DE ? |
| 21:12.56 | Bremsstrahlung | ? |
| 21:13.01 | hassoon | abrotman: why what's rong |
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| 21:13.08 | abrotman | hassoon: because you don't have any idea what you're talking about |
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| 21:13.11 | Bremsstrahlung | hassoon: Well, this one is so far running good and seems to be known... |
| 21:13.16 | abrotman | dpkg: tell zeee about root |
| 21:13.27 | hassoon | abrotman: i'm talking about the fash player you get from adobe's site, so what |
| 21:13.34 | abrotman | hassoon: yes, don't do that |
| 21:13.38 | hassoon | Bremsstrahlung: whateva |
| 21:13.47 | hassoon | abrotman: and why |
| 21:13.50 | DasEi | hassoon: different versions browser from apt n new versions, let Brems... first get a basic setup |
| 21:14.06 | abrotman | Bremsstrahlung: if you want flash (from Adobe, note that it isn't updated anymore other than security problems), use flashplugin-nonfree |
| 21:14.06 | hassoon | DasEi: Fair enough ,i see |
| 21:14.23 | hassoon | DasEi: but he have to edit is sources.list file afaik, no ? |
| 21:14.28 | hassoon | since that's a nonfree thing |
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| 21:14.55 | hassoon | Bremsstrahlung: aren't you familiar with google chrome ? |
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| 21:15.14 | DasEi | hassoon: I think it's current lubuntu he does, idk for latest releases, apt will tell him |
| 21:15.24 | hassoon | what does he mean by anywho btw.. |
| 21:15.30 | Deicide34 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:15.53 | hassoon | Deicide34: say 'words' , not sections :p |
| 21:15.58 | Deicide34 | <PROTECTED> |
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| 21:16.21 | Deicide34 | <PROTECTED> |
| 21:16.28 | c-c | Bremsstrahlung: you could also use Synaptic to add the non-free |
| 21:16.33 | c-c | (and install the packages) |
| 21:16.34 | hassoon | Bremsstrahlung: gimme your ip, and i'll ssh to you, and sort your problems instantly son.. |
| 21:16.36 | Bremsstrahlung | Jesus Christ, so many pings. |
| 21:16.45 | c-c | (of course, one has to install synaptic first) |
| 21:16.52 | DasEi | pong gets himself a tea |
| 21:16.54 | Bremsstrahlung | hassoon: Nice try -- I didn't even install an SSH server, so that won't even be possible. |
| 21:17.01 | Bremsstrahlung | hassoon: And you just reminded me, I need to set up iptables. |
| 21:17.02 | Bremsstrahlung | :-) |
| 21:17.10 | hassoon | Bremsstrahlung: oh you got a list and unchecked ssh in it ? |
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| 21:17.17 | c-c | ufw can work, and it has gui in gufw |
| 21:17.21 | c-c | Bremsstrahlung: ^ |
| 21:17.24 | Bremsstrahlung | hassoon: Heh, yeah. It was a GUI installer. |
| 21:17.31 | hassoon | ah, that |
| 21:17.31 | Bremsstrahlung | c-c: I see. |
| 21:17.54 | c-c | now, sleep, good luck Bremsstrahlung |
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| 21:18.08 | Bremsstrahlung | c-c: Thanks for everything, good night! |
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| 21:19.29 | Deicide34 | Should I stick to LXDE with 512 MB of RAM? I have slow Celeron processor too. |
| 21:19.42 | Bremsstrahlung | Wow. |
| 21:19.43 | nezZario | XFCE was usable @ 512 |
| 21:19.45 | Bremsstrahlung | Story of my life. |
| 21:19.52 | Deicide34 | Or use only Openbox? |
| 21:19.58 | Bremsstrahlung | Deicide34: I too have half a gigabyte. |
| 21:20.05 | Bremsstrahlung | And running LXDE. |
| 21:20.08 | centrx | Deicide34, See how it goes with each one |
| 21:20.14 | centrx | Deicide34, For what it's worth, I use openbox with 8GB RAM |
| 21:20.27 | Bremsstrahlung | centrx: That's some box! |
| 21:20.32 | centrx | it's open |
| 21:20.36 | Bremsstrahlung | ,lol |
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| 21:21.53 | Deicide34 | centrx: That's cool. I like the dedication :) |
| 21:22.12 | Deicide34 | But will stick to lxde for now |
| 21:22.25 | Deicide34 | i runs kinda fine, I guess. |
| 21:22.43 | Deicide34 | if I don't open too much tabs in Iceweasel |
| 21:22.58 | sailcat | Bremsstrahlung, you got everything working ok, then? |
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| 21:24.02 | centrx | Deicide34, You can use fbpanel with openbox, that will give you a taskbar, clock, quick launch, etc. |
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| 21:25.19 | Deicide34 | centrx: Will I need to manually add stuff to menu via config? |
| 21:25.21 | sailcat | lxpanel works great with openbox, too. |
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| 21:26.32 | centrx | Deicide34, maybe, that's my favorite part! |
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| 21:28.32 | Deicide34 | centrx: Ok, I saw that there are few ways to do it. There was one easier way. |
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| 21:29.08 | DasEi | Hi there, I got a problem here: I usevbox and have crypted debian there, which refuses right password at boot. I sofar hanged the vdi to another VM, password there is working fine, I'm currently chrooted' in the broken debian. updates work well, I did an update-grub, kernels are found. I oc beforehand e2fscked the decrypted partitions. trying to change the password was not possible.Currently in another window I'm chrooted in by-as said- another ins |
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| 21:30.38 | hassoon | Bremsstrahlung: are you new? did you just move from windows ? |
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| 21:31.14 | smallfoot- | Why does Debian use old glibc 2.19 that is over a year old, instead of the new glibc 2.21? |
| 21:31.37 | hassoon | smallfoot-: wheezy afer all |
| 21:31.46 | smallfoot- | huh? |
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| 21:32.48 | qmr | smallfoot-: You must be new here. |
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| 21:32.56 | teraflops | heh |
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| 21:33.09 | hassoon | smallfoot-: https://packages.debian.org/search?searchon=sourcenames&keywords=glibc |
| 21:33.58 | hassoon | smallfoot-: oh sorry, you're right |
| 21:34.14 | hassoon | smallfoot-: it's 2.19 whatsoever |
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| 21:35.10 | smallfoot- | qmr, yes |
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| 21:35.40 | smallfoot- | Why it is so old? |
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| 21:36.03 | centrx | it's not that old |
| 21:36.39 | hassoon | smallfoot-: well what are you up to? why do you need it ? |
| 21:37.02 | smallfoot- | No reason really |
| 21:37.03 | smallfoot- | I just wonder |
| 21:37.07 | centrx | smallfoot-, Changing libc affects everything else on the system |
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| 21:38.07 | centrx | smallfoot-, Also Debian is frozen from Nov 5, 2014, until release of Debian 8 |
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| 21:38.50 | centrx | smallfoot-, So it would only have 2.20, and there's really no difference for the average person between 2.19 and 2.20. These updates usually contain new features that are useful for programmers |
| 21:39.12 | hassoon | jessie is coming :> |
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| 21:44.32 | meaneye_ | Which reminds me I should check from where my Debian Testing is pulling packages in. |
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| 21:54.07 | DasEi | hah, gotcha, ivalid line in cryptab, grr you mof.... yeah |
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| 21:57.23 | Deicide34 | Hello to all. I have small problem loading lxpanel. i know I have it installed as part of LXDE package, but I want to try using Openbox, just to see the difference. |
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| 21:58.31 | sailcat | lxde uses openbox |
| 21:58.31 | Deicide34 | I want to have taskbar :) |
| 21:59.09 | Deicide34 | sailcat: i know, but I just booted into plain openbox, without tthe desktop environment |
| 21:59.21 | Deicide34 | and I like what I see, lol |
| 21:59.34 | Deicide34 | just plain apps, no clutter |
| 21:59.44 | sailcat | Deicide34, just open a terminal and type lxpanel & |
| 21:59.53 | Deicide34 | But I want to enable lxpanel |
| 22:00.09 | DasEi | nasty luks, wrong uuid in crypttab.. fine l8ter all |
| 22:00.09 | Deicide34 | sailcat: Thank you , will try itž |
| 22:00.24 | centrx | Deicide34, You can create an .xinitrc to run a set of things on startx |
| 22:01.36 | Deicide34 | centrx: Yeah, I see that when I close terminal, the panel desappears |
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| 22:02.04 | Deicide34 | how to edit it, where is it? |
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| 22:03.16 | centrx | Deicide34, ~/.xinitrc (home directory) |
| 22:03.18 | Deicide34 | centrx: Nevermind, I think I know that :) |
| 22:03.27 | Deicide34 | yeah, that is it |
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| 22:04.59 | Deicide34 | Thank you for help, will search the net for the rest :D |
| 22:05.07 | Deicide34 | Bye |
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| 22:05.34 | freeone3000 | Hi. I'm having trouble with an intel graphics driver. Error is "[ 13982.075] (EE) AIGLX error: dlopen of /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/i965_dri.so failed (/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/i965_dri.so: undefined symbol: _glapi_tls_Dispatch)". It's causing me to not be able to render chromium. What causes this? |
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| 22:06.14 | fengshaun_ | how can I list the files installed by a package? |
| 22:06.28 | centrx | dpkg -L packagename |
| 22:06.29 | dpkg | No packages found matching packagename |
| 22:06.37 | fengshaun_ | ah, thanks! |
| 22:07.05 | sydney_untangle | petn-randall: zh1 It didnt fix the issue. |
| 22:07.12 | centrx | freeone3000, You have xserver-xorg-video-intel installed? |
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| 22:07.49 | centrx | freeone3000, The error message sounds like you have mismatched library versions. Are you running straight Debian stable? |
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| 22:08.44 | freeone3000 | I thingcis. |
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| 22:08.56 | freeone3000 | centrx: Yes, that is installed. No, I'm running "unstable", so that my various libraries can be kept up to date. I understand I'm to expect various issues, but I don't see anything explicitly for this. |
| 22:09.07 | freeone3000 | (Sorry, touchpad deadzone detection's broken, that's next on my list) |
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| 22:10.27 | centrx | freeone3000, Maybe need to install mesa? |
| 22:10.58 | centrx | libgl1-mesa-glx |
| 22:11.16 | freeone3000 | centrx: mesa libs installed: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/5fac7b3971e668b8c69d |
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| 22:12.43 | centrx | freeone3000, If you look on the left side, you'll see that some of them have status "rc" (which means it's no installed) |
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| 22:12.53 | sydney_untangle | Hi all. My "new" pci wifi card (rtl8185) disconects after a couple hours with this dmesg output. http://paste.debian.net/159301/ I have all the right drivers. If it disconects i have to disable wifi and reenable manually. |
| 22:12.54 | centrx | freeone3000, also the versions of those are not at the latest version (only the config files are actually installed) |
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| 22:14.10 | freeone3000 | centrx: looks like -glx and -swx11 are mutually exclusive. You're saying -glx is the right way to go, and to install all of them to force an update? |
| 22:15.12 | centrx | freeone3000, swx11 description: "This library provides a pure software rasteriser; it does not provide a direct rendering-capable library, or one which uses GLX. For that, please see libgl1-mesa-glx." |
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| 22:15.47 | freeone3000 | For some reason, I thought that would attempt to do everything in software without having to use my card. |
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| 22:30.33 | dn | I want to setup iptables to only allow certain incoming connections. while researching on google, it seems most suggestions are to apply a default DROP rule to the OUTPUT filter. What do I gain by doing that? Would it be any less secure if just defaulting |
| 22:30.37 | dn | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:30.59 | dn | sorry for the formatting. copypaste from irssi |
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| 22:32.56 | centrx | dn, OUTPUT wouldn't be related to your incoming connections right? |
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| 22:34.11 | centrx | dn, preventing unauthorized outgoing connections is a higher level of security, e.g. preventing hacked servers from calling home |
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| 22:40.50 | dn | centrx: yeah thats what I thought. But if the server gets hacked, they could just change the rules anyway i reckon? |
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| 22:41.25 | b0t | Hello guys |
| 22:41.30 | b0t | How to install node.js? |
| 22:41.34 | b0t | What is the repo? |
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| 22:43.21 | polyphagia | b0t: on wheezy you can install it from backports |
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| 22:45.22 | ntz | hello |
| 22:45.25 | ntz | can grub chainload a lvm volume ? |
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| 22:47.33 | miko__ | Hi. On my debian wheezy, before the login is shown, the screen is cleared, making it impossible to read the boot messages. How can i fix that? |
| 22:48.10 | syco_ | check dmesg |
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| 22:48.41 | miko__ | While that is helpfull, it's not the same |
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| 22:49.02 | shay_shay | yoooo |
| 22:49.12 | jelly | ntz: you want to chainload the boot record written onto a lv? What an unusual setup. |
| 22:50.02 | jhutchins | miko__: Edit /etc/default/grub, remove "quiet" from the default boot command. |
| 22:50.03 | dn | When creating a iptables ssh input rule, many people suggests the use of --sport 513:65535, but noone explains why. Can anyone enlighten me? |
| 22:50.21 | jhutchins | miko__: Test by doing a temporary edit from the grub menu. |
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| 22:51.42 | miko__ | Ok |
| 22:51.44 | miko__ | thanks |
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| 22:56.11 | miko__ | Also, I have another odd problem with startup: |
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| 22:56.18 | ntz | jelly: yes, exactly .. not me |
| 22:56.31 | ntz | rare need |
| 22:56.40 | jelly | !tias |
| 22:56.40 | dpkg | TIAS is "Try It And See". |
| 22:56.55 | miko__ | There is a file /etc/rc2.d/S17udhcpd, that works as intended when called maually |
| 22:57.03 | miko__ | debian boots to runlevel 2 |
| 22:57.04 | Bremsstrahlung | Is it necessary to reboot or something for a change in sources.list to be picked up? |
| 22:57.12 | miko__ | udhcp does however not start |
| 22:57.18 | Bremsstrahlung | I'm trying to get HexChat for Debian and it's apparently backport. |
| 22:57.19 | jelly | Bremsstrahlung: just rerun "aptitude update" |
| 22:57.24 | Bremsstrahlung | OK, hold on. |
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| 22:57.57 | jelly | ,v hexchat |
| 22:57.58 | judd | Package: hexchat on i386 -- wheezy-backports: 2.10.0-1~bpo70+1; jessie: 2.10.1-1; sid: 2.10.1-2 |
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| 23:00.01 | Bremsstrahlung | jelly, from http://backports.debian.org/Instructions/ , since I have wheezy I added "deb http://http.debian.net/debian wheezy-backports main" to the sources.list file. |
| 23:00.04 | jelly | Bremsstrahlung: unlike yum which gets repo metadata on every run, apt has an explicit action for that, in part because it used to be expensive |
| 23:00.19 | Bremsstrahlung | Then I tried "apt-get -t squeeze-backports install hexchat" |
| 23:00.24 | Bremsstrahlung | But it didn't seem to work. |
| 23:00.31 | Bremsstrahlung | So let me rerun aptitude update. |
| 23:00.32 | jelly | Bremsstrahlung: but you're not running squeeze |
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| 23:00.52 | Bremsstrahlung | Then what command do I need. |
| 23:00.58 | jelly | you're running wheezy, and you've configured the wheezy-backports repo, so grab the package from there |
| 23:01.13 | Bremsstrahlung | So, apt-get -t wheezy-backports install "package" |
| 23:01.27 | jelly | bdo pages are somewhat confusing |
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| 23:01.38 | jelly | right |
| 23:01.41 | Bremsstrahlung | o.0 |
| 23:01.47 | Bremsstrahlung | It doesn't say that anywhere. |
| 23:01.54 | peppino | ciao |
| 23:01.54 | Bremsstrahlung | Weird. |
| 23:01.57 | Bremsstrahlung | Bye. |
| 23:02.00 | peppino | !list |
| 23:02.00 | dpkg | peppino: vedi http://packages.debian.org/ |
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| 23:02.43 | polyphagia | should dpkg link https instead? |
| 23:02.45 | miko__ | Ok, the removing the "quite" kernel option did not help |
| 23:02.57 | miko__ | It was infact not set in the running grub configuration |
| 23:03.02 | jelly | polyphagia: what do you mean? |
| 23:03.04 | peppino | https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages |
| 23:03.10 | miko__ | grub writes to the wrong disk and all, but it works |
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| 23:03.21 | miko__ | I belive it's a problem with getty |
| 23:03.38 | peppino | https://packages.debian.org/file:path |
| 23:03.42 | Bremsstrahlung | jelly, OK, cool beans, HexChat seems to be installing now. |
| 23:03.43 | polyphagia | jelly: well it works with https why not have dpkg link to https instead of http |
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| 23:04.33 | jelly | polyphagia: what works with https? |
| 23:04.40 | jelly | missing context |
| 23:04.44 | polyphagia | 17:01:38 dpkg | peppino: vedi http://packages.debian.org/ |
| 23:04.58 | polyphagia | but why not link to https://www.debian.org/distrib/packages instead |
| 23:05.12 | jelly | polyphagia: oh. Probably because it's not really relevant |
| 23:05.27 | polyphagia | https is always ideal though |
| 23:05.37 | jelly | we only have that !list factoid for lost italian warez kidz |
| 23:05.45 | polyphagia | o lol |
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| 23:07.13 | miko__ | Given you boot up debian (without x11), how does your login look like? |
| 23:07.21 | NoImNotNineVolt | it would be nice if it listed dpkg's commands instead :P |
| 23:07.35 | NoImNotNineVolt | the warezers would find it even more annoying, i feel. |
| 23:08.05 | miko__ | is it at the bottom of the screen and you can scroll up, or do you see a blank screen with the login at the top? |
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| 23:10.21 | miko__ | I really need to read the init messages, because there is a odd bug somwhere there |
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| 23:10.45 | miko__ | But I can't read it because presuably login thinks i want a clean terminal |
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| 23:14.59 | miko__ | common, some of you have booted a debian box sometime, haven't you? |
| 23:15.31 | centrx | a what box? |
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| 23:16.15 | miko__ | Does not matter, a standard wheezy install without x11 |
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| 23:35.12 | umbra_purus | hey |
| 23:35.40 | umbra_purus | I'm going to download the iso image of debian but how do I know the type of processor i have? |
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| 23:36.28 | polyphagia | umbra_purus: are you on windows? |
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| 23:37.15 | polyphagia | if so, which version? |
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| 23:37.31 | umbra_purus | Yes I am. I wanted to do dual boot but i've already got it in my laptop with ubuntu. I kinda trying some linux distrobutions being in computer science course |
| 23:37.34 | umbra_purus | Win7 |
| 23:37.44 | polyphagia | open your start menu, right click computer, properties |
| 23:37.51 | polyphagia | it'll say either 32 bit or 64 bit somewhere |
| 23:37.58 | umbra_purus | yeah |
| 23:37.59 | umbra_purus | then? |
| 23:38.02 | polyphagia | well which ist? |
| 23:38.07 | polyphagia | that's all you have to do lol |
| 23:38.10 | umbra_purus | the windows is 64bit |
| 23:38.20 | polyphagia | ok then the arch you want is amd64 |
| 23:38.23 | umbra_purus | so I should choose amd64= |
| 23:38.26 | polyphagia | yup |
| 23:38.33 | umbra_purus | but isnt that for amd processors? |
| 23:38.35 | polyphagia | no |
| 23:39.00 | polyphagia | they created the original spec umbra_purus |
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| 23:39.16 | umbra_purus | Original spec? what does that mean? |
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| 23:39.22 | jelly | !why amd64 |
| 23:39.22 | dpkg | The Debian architecture that runs on 64-bit processors from AMD and Intel is called "amd64" because the architecture was first developed by AMD. AMD64 is variously known as x86-64, x64, IA-32e, EM64T and Intel 64 (most of which are the Intel marketing people changing their mind). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/x86-64 |
| 23:40.43 | umbra_purus | thanks |
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