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| 00:05.49 | bigterd | i need a second opinion on a cron job, likek to make sure my syntax is correct before waiting a month for it to not to happen |
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| 00:06.20 | centrx | bigterd, You can use paste.debian.net to show it if it's more than 1-2 lines |
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| 00:06.37 | bigterd | centrx: working onthat |
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| 00:06.50 | bigterd | http://pastebin.com/dcy6ZAdi |
| 00:06.52 | bigterd | 3 lines :/ |
| 00:07.12 | virtualizado | i have GUFW installed, but when i run it without SUDO, or SU, it gaves me permission denied, and with su or sudo, some gtk error. What do i do to open it? |
| 00:07.30 | bigterd | never used alot of cron, so i'm assuing monthly need *'s to tell it to do it on any day of the month/week/ regardless how the calendar lands? |
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| 00:07.37 | phy1729 | yep |
| 00:08.04 | bigterd | phy1729: yes me or yes someone else? |
| 00:08.07 | centrx | looks right |
| 00:08.24 | phy1729 | bigterd: yeo to you |
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| 00:08.48 | bigterd | thanks, gave me hope instead of biting nails for the next 30 days |
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| 00:09.14 | sailcat | virtualizado, did you try gksudo gufw? |
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| 00:09.33 | grg | My /etc/kernel-img.conf has four entries. Not one of which is mentioned in kernel-img.conf(5)! |
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| 00:14.43 | virtualizado | sailcat, yes i did try. the answer is Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0 |
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| 00:14.58 | virtualizado | also, i did remove and reinstalled gufw |
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| 00:15.20 | syco_ | xhost + and export your display |
| 00:15.29 | syco_ | or use ufw :) |
| 00:15.49 | themill | ewww.... xhost + is never the right answer. |
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| 00:16.05 | bigterd | with ram and cpu cheap, is it stupid to not play with virtual anything? |
| 00:16.09 | virtualizado | syco_, xhost + gives me No protocol specified |
| 00:16.09 | virtualizado | xhost: unable to open display ":0" |
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| 00:16.28 | themill | virtualizado: you want to run it with gksu or gksudo not with su or sudo. |
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| 00:16.54 | mutex | how does debian/dpkg handle installing new packages that have binaries currently in use ? |
| 00:17.00 | virtualizado | themill, gksu gufw |
| 00:17.01 | virtualizado | No protocol specified |
| 00:17.01 | virtualizado | (gksu:16129): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display: :0 |
| 00:17.02 | mutex | I can't seem to formulate the right google string for this answer |
| 00:17.18 | umbra_purus | Hey can someone help me? i'm trying to install debian in oracle virtual box but when I select the option of installing it freezes -.- |
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| 00:17.36 | centrx | umbra_purus, "select the option of installing"? |
| 00:17.38 | themill | virtualizado: you're running this over ssh or on your local machine? |
| 00:17.46 | centrx | umbra_purus, are you using the right architecture? |
| 00:17.53 | virtualizado | i am a desktop user, no ssh |
| 00:18.00 | SynrG | Not as root |
| 00:18.06 | SynrG | As the user |
| 00:18.20 | virtualizado | SynrG, it worked!!! |
| 00:18.22 | virtualizado | thanks!!! |
| 00:18.32 | SynrG | np |
| 00:18.41 | virtualizado | why sudo does not work for some things and need gksu or gksudo? |
| 00:19.36 | themill | virtualizado: you need to pass the authentication to use your display over to the different user -- gksu both sets the user (like su) and also copies the MIT-MAGIC-COOKIE across |
| 00:19.37 | doublehp | some UTF8 chars are not printed proerly in my web browser; which package do i need to install ? |
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| 00:21.42 | umbra_purus | yes |
| 00:21.47 | umbra_purus | centrx: yes |
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| 00:22.34 | umbra_purus | Any sugestions? |
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| 00:22.59 | virtualizado | themill ty very much!!! |
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| 00:27.34 | umbra_purus | centrx: yes |
| 00:27.35 | umbra_purus | Any sugestions? |
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| 00:29.43 | centrx | umbra_purus, What does this mean: "select the option of installing"? Which Debian ISO did you download? Is the virtualbox virtual machine set to "Linux"? What architecture is your hardware? |
| 00:29.44 | umbra_purus | can someone help me? When i select the expert installation the bootloader says that im using a i686 cpu and doesnt detect my x86x64 |
| 00:29.45 | umbra_purus | ? |
| 00:29.57 | umbra_purus | Yes |
| 00:30.05 | umbra_purus | My architecture is 64bit win 7 |
| 00:30.15 | umbra_purus | i5 3570 if im not mistaken |
| 00:31.03 | centrx | umbra_purus, In virtualbox, is the virtual machine set to be 64-bit? You select "Linux" and then a more specific form of Linux, e.g. "Debian (64 bit)"? |
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| 00:31.49 | umbra_purus | virtual box, when creating a virtual machine, wont let me create a 64bit version of debian. only 32bit? why?? |
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| 00:33.15 | centrx | umbra_purus, Is it something like a 32-bit version of virtualbox or something? |
| 00:33.33 | centrx | umbra_purus, Does it have 64 bit for any other OS types either? |
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| 00:33.58 | umbra_purus | centrx: for you last question: no... why is that? |
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| 00:34.37 | centrx | umbra_purus, Seems like the host is not 64-bit, and if your hardware and OS are 64-bit, then it seems like it must be the virtualbox app version is 32-bit only for some reason maybe? |
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| 00:35.23 | umbra_purus | centrx: but i've download like 3 times in other computers and in those i've appeared the option of 64bit |
| 00:35.54 | umbra_purus | x86/amd64 option |
| 00:36.00 | umbra_purus | that what i've downloaded |
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| 00:36.05 | umbra_purus | for VBox |
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| 00:36.11 | centrx | yeah, Sounds like the host OS or machine isn't 64-bit then |
| 00:36.32 | umbra_purus | what my machine? my physical machine? |
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| 00:36.58 | centrx | right |
| 00:37.00 | centrx | or the OS |
| 00:37.13 | umbra_purus | no impossible. runing a win7 64bit. |
| 00:37.31 | umbra_purus | instruction set of CPU is 64bit |
| 00:37.35 | centrx | Maybe you downloaded a different executable for virtualbox this time? |
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| 00:38.07 | centrx | I don't know |
| 00:38.16 | centrx | umbra_purus, Try #virtualbox |
| 00:38.21 | umbra_purus | okay |
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| 00:43.17 | shentino | Hey, is it a bug if the numlock status doesn't match the numlock LED? |
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| 00:45.51 | centrx | good question |
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| 00:48.29 | doublehp | shentino: I think that no ... but not expert |
| 00:48.58 | shentino | yeah, basically I have numlock off, but the light shows as on, or vice versa |
| 00:49.15 | doublehp | shentino: in particular, there are several packjage that use LED for various notification (like email), or provide spinners, or other funny things, and they do it independently from status |
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| 01:51.36 | nmschulte | Is there a way to force install a package (or ignore a dependency) with aptitude (via the interactive interface)? |
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| 01:52.10 | jaggz | anyone have a script to list installed packages with install times? |
| 01:52.20 | jaggz | I had a python script but the api doesn't work anymore |
| 01:52.21 | jelly | nmschulte: not a hard dependency, no |
| 01:52.59 | jaggz | http://www.pasteall.org/57012/python |
| 01:53.20 | jaggz | that's the old script.. possibly even more dysfunctional as I tried to update it (without knowing the api) |
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| 01:55.07 | jelly | nmschulte: if you're hell-bent on doing it, /msg dpkg equivs |
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| 02:07.31 | FunkyBob | hey all... am about to remove dbus from my wheezy server, but am wanting to be certain it won't break anything... |
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| 02:10.41 | abrotman | FunkyBob: why? |
| 02:11.12 | FunkyBob | no need for it I can see... not on this server, anyway |
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| 02:16.46 | eric23 | I am trying to get started with Xen, but when it loads the kernel DRM nouveau it freezes. Is there a way I suppress noveau? |
| 02:20.00 | PryMar56 | eric23, try this with your resolution on xen.gz kernel cmdline: console=vga vga=gfx-1280x1024x16 |
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| 02:21.41 | eric23 | would vga=gfx-1024x768x16 work too? |
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| 02:22.09 | PryMar56 | eric23, use the resolution which nouveau should use |
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| 02:22.47 | eric23 | okay, I'll give it a try |
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| 02:28.58 | Drugo | !jessie |
| 02:28.58 | dpkg | The release following Debian 7 "Wheezy" is codenamed "Jessie" (the cowgirl in Toy Story 2) and will be Debian 8. It is the current <testing> distribution. Use the #debian-next channel on the OFTC network (irc.oftc.net) for support. http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2012/07/msg00004.html . See also <jessie alpha>, <jessie freeze>, <jessie kernel>. |
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| 02:29.54 | RoyK | out of interest - why isn't #debian-next on freenode? |
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| 02:30.04 | Drugo | when will be released? :) |
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| 02:31.17 | RoyK | Drugo: when it's finished |
| 02:31.53 | Drugo | i suspected it |
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| 03:06.29 | memeka | anyone? |
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| 03:32.18 | trysten | what's a quick way to get a listing of the files in a package |
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| 03:32.51 | memeka | I am trying to build a package, but I get a dpkg-shlibdeps error about not finding a library (which is in the same package). RPATH: '' ; adding LD_LIBRARY_PATH to the lib is ok ... any idea why dpkg-shlibdeps fails to see the libraries which are already built ? |
| 03:32.54 | abrotman | trysten: dpkg -L pkgname |
| 03:33.05 | abrotman | trysten: if it's not installed, apt-file list pkgname |
| 03:33.23 | gammaleak | I have an old mid-2007 Intel Mac Mini. It's got a 64-bit CPU, but the EFI firmware expects a 32-bit EFI bootloader. Will the multi-arch disc image get the job done? |
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| 03:33.59 | trysten | abrotman: Thank you! <$ (flowers) |
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| 03:50.34 | beepie | anyone knows about the bleeding status about the recent fsck exploit? http://lwn.net/Alerts/634411/ |
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| 03:51.49 | abrotman | it says it has been fixed |
| 03:51.57 | beepie | for wheezy |
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| 03:52.47 | abrotman | so you want to know abvout sid/jessie? |
| 03:53.41 | beepie | gotta do something |
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| 03:54.01 | abrotman | glad we covered that |
| 03:54.18 | dvs | !next |
| 03:54.18 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
| 03:54.29 | abrotman | in case he comes back ... http://metadata.ftp-master.debian.org/changelogs//main/e/e2fsprogs/e2fsprogs_1.42.12-1.1_changelog |
| 03:55.07 | abrotman | which seems to say that it's been fixed |
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| 04:40.52 | Rebelyouth | Hi |
| 04:41.31 | Rebelyouth | I did an dist-upgrade and now my external hdd won't go to sleep |
| 04:42.29 | Rebelyouth | I trying to use inotifywait -m -r /ext to see what program access every 300 seconds but I can't get the process name |
| 04:42.40 | Rebelyouth | there is any pther program I can use? |
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| 04:45.09 | Windows7U | hello |
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| 04:46.43 | Rebelyouth | hi |
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| 04:49.18 | shay_shay | hmmmmmm |
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| 04:52.58 | indrora | Rebelyouth: watch, lsof, tee and friends? |
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| 04:53.54 | Rebelyouth | lsof give me nothing |
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| 04:54.31 | Rebelyouth | I'm trying to shutdown each daemon once by one |
| 04:54.39 | Rebelyouth | *one by once |
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| 04:55.13 | Rebelyouth | and see is some daemon try access to the partition |
| 04:56.18 | Rebelyouth | from inotify wait I got OPEN,ISDIR and CLOSE_NOWRITE,CLOSE,ISDIR but not what try to access to it |
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| 04:57.50 | Rebelyouth | indrora: how i can use watch to see what try to access yo it? |
| 04:58.16 | xbytemx | Hi, I tried to make a usb mouse get a persistent accel |
| 04:58.31 | xbytemx | I tried via udev rule |
| 04:59.48 | shay_shay | twice I tried to install debian and at the tasksel screen there were no options |
| 05:00.15 | shay_shay | standard sustemutilities was only option |
| 05:00.40 | shay_shay | halp |
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| 05:02.39 | shay_shay | in /target/etc/apt/sources.list the main line is commented out because it failed to verify |
| 05:03.22 | shay_shay | deb http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/ failed to verify? |
| 05:03.23 | xbytemx | http://paste.debian.net/159352/ |
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| 05:06.43 | Rusty1 | xbytemx: #udev, #xorg worth a visit perhaps as well |
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| 05:07.03 | xbytemx | thank you Rusty1 |
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| 05:07.55 | shay_shay | should i try reinstalling with a different mirror? |
| 05:08.25 | Rusty1 | shay_shay: were able to obtain dhcp addy? |
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| 05:10.56 | shay_shay | yep |
| 05:13.02 | shay_shay | thats super weird |
| 05:14.12 | indrora | Rebelyouth: Hmm. Yeah, inotify isn't a great way of handling that and you don't know what's going on. |
| 05:15.03 | indrora | Rebelyouth: You could unmount the partition and see what breaks, and if unmount complains, use lsof to find who owns the handle. |
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| 05:16.18 | Rebelyouth | indrora: trying iotop to see what's going on...mmhh... maybe is smartd |
| 05:17.37 | Rebelyouth | I can umount the partiton without any issue |
| 05:18.00 | Rebelyouth | so I think is adaemon trying to do something and not a regular program |
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| 05:20.39 | shay_shay | ok i tried another server and it worked |
| 05:20.45 | shay_shay | the main one is haxed |
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| 05:38.40 | hats33 | how do i know if my desktop needs a wireless adapter to use wifi |
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| 05:40.26 | dondelelcaro | hats33: pretty much everything needs an adapter to use wifi |
| 05:40.42 | dondelelcaro | hats33: but lsusb; or lspci; should tell you if your machine already has one |
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| 05:40.54 | hats33 | how do i know if my desktop has a built in one |
| 05:41.00 | trisquelian | The best way is to first identify your existing network card/adapter, hats33. |
| 05:41.09 | hats33 | i have an hp pavilion a6608f |
| 05:41.15 | dondelelcaro | hats33: you'll see it in the output of lsusb; or lspci; |
| 05:41.15 | hats33 | 1 sec |
| 05:41.23 | hats33 | whats that? |
| 05:42.05 | trisquelian | No, it only has a network card for ethernet. |
| 05:42.12 | hats33 | i dont think it has one, but i dont know for sure |
| 05:42.33 | hats33 | ok so the hp pavilion a6608f requires an external wifi adapter for me to use wifi then? |
| 05:42.52 | hats33 | thxx for the help btw |
| 05:42.55 | hats33 | i appreciate it |
| 05:42.56 | trisquelian | Oh and a 56k modem, well if it's a tower computer you probably know if it had wifi support. |
| 05:43.48 | hats33 | im staying at a friends and i have wifi on my laptop but i cant wifi on my desktop, i just need the wifi adapter tho right? |
| 05:44.02 | Rebelyouth | yep |
| 05:44.09 | hats33 | i need to buy a modem? |
| 05:44.10 | hats33 | ??? |
| 05:44.26 | hats33 | isnt there already one if im getting wifi? |
| 05:44.30 | Rebelyouth | nope just a wireless adapter ysb or pci or pci-e |
| 05:44.36 | hats33 | or is that the router |
| 05:44.38 | hats33 | sorry im stupid |
| 05:44.39 | Rebelyouth | *usb |
| 05:44.47 | trisquelian | No, it has a 56k modem by default as per HP specs. |
| 05:44.56 | hats33 | oh ok |
| 05:45.21 | Rebelyouth | Internet provider <++++++++>modem <=========>Router<==========>You |
| 05:46.15 | hats33 | where is the wifi adapter |
| 05:46.22 | hats33 | in that diagram |
| 05:46.24 | hats33 | ??? |
| 05:46.27 | Rebelyouth | you will need to buy it |
| 05:46.35 | Rebelyouth | (You) |
| 05:46.42 | hats33 | but the modem is built into my computer |
| 05:46.49 | hats33 | yes? |
| 05:47.02 | Rebelyouth | are you using a dilup connection? |
| 05:47.08 | Rebelyouth | *dialup |
| 05:47.21 | hats33 | the one where i have to use my phone to connect |
| 05:47.29 | Rebelyouth | ok |
| 05:47.30 | hats33 | im just using wifi on my laptop |
| 05:48.08 | Rebelyouth | do you have a router? |
| 05:48.33 | hats33 | my friend must, dont you need one for wifi? |
| 05:48.34 | hats33 | http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/doc/public/display?docId=emr_na-c01570947 |
| 05:48.42 | hats33 | i found the specification page |
| 05:48.57 | Rebelyouth | yes you will need a router or a combo router/modem |
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| 05:49.10 | hats33 | i have wifi on my laptop |
| 05:49.19 | hats33 | my friend must have a router then? |
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| 05:49.38 | Rebelyouth | yep |
| 05:50.13 | hats33 | it says "Modem: 56K WinModem" |
| 05:50.16 | hats33 | so it has a built in modem |
| 05:50.25 | hats33 | but it only works for windows?> |
| 05:50.49 | hats33 | or am i being dumb |
| 05:51.41 | Rebelyouth | is a softmodem = using a driver software |
| 05:51.53 | hats33 | so it has nothing to do with windows |
| 05:51.56 | Rebelyouth | some winmodem were compatible with linux |
| 05:51.57 | hats33 | im just being dumb sorry |
| 05:52.22 | hats33 | wait is it possible my HP Pavilion a6608f |
| 05:52.26 | Rebelyouth | this was yeras ago...I don't know if the driver still working with modem linux dristro |
| 05:52.31 | Rebelyouth | *distro |
| 05:52.31 | hats33 | "56K WinModem" |
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| 05:52.35 | hats33 | doesnt work with debian/ |
| 05:52.59 | Rebelyouth | very unlikely |
| 05:53.06 | hats33 | oh ok good |
| 05:53.26 | hats33 | so il just get the wireless adapter then, sense it has a modem and my friend has a router |
| 05:53.29 | hats33 | thx for the help |
| 05:54.59 | Rebelyouth | np |
| 05:56.25 | Rebelyouth | hats33: check this list before you buy an adapter http://linuxwireless.org/en/users/Devices/USB/ |
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| 05:58.24 | hats33 | this is to make sure there is a network driver for my adapter |
| 05:58.25 | hats33 | ? |
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| 06:01.06 | Rebelyouth | yep |
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| 06:10.55 | shay_shay | i like the tplink ones |
| 06:11.24 | trisquelian | I have a tp-link usb adapter and it needs non-free drivers. |
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| 06:13.10 | shay_shay | i was talking about the pcie cards |
| 06:13.18 | shay_shay | who uses usb dongles ugh |
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| 07:49.03 | skaag | anyone here managed to get an eGalax touch screen to work? |
| 07:49.20 | skaag | if I tail /dev/input/event12 I see no data coming in |
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| 07:53.04 | Mr_Queue | Isn't there a flat file that I can edit with some system defaults new packages will look at for options? debconf or something.. I'm looking for non interactive installs |
| 07:53.35 | Mr_Queue | Say I want to update the timezone on 10 servers. |
| 07:54.16 | mjt | dpkg --set-selections |
| 07:54.16 | dpkg | mjt: no idea |
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| 07:54.19 | mjt | heh |
| 07:54.29 | Mr_Queue | I know set-selections.. |
| 07:54.38 | Schnabeltierchen | when i want to execute a script as root after the network connection was etablished, where to i place it? |
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| 07:55.30 | Mr_Queue | Schnabeltierchen: /etc/network/if-up.d ? |
| 07:55.54 | mjt | heh |
| 07:56.16 | mjt | that's quite a wrong place for that |
| 07:57.08 | Schnabeltierchen | so not /etc/network/if-up.d ? |
| 07:57.43 | mjt | the thing really is what do you mean by "connection is up" |
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| 07:58.33 | mjt | btw, I'm not sure if-up.d/ stuff is executed when network is managed by networkmanager |
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| 07:59.18 | Schnabeltierchen | by "connection is up" i mean, if other hosts are pingable |
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| 08:00.14 | Schnabeltierchen | http://nopaste.linux-dev.org/?447862 <-- i got this script, it´s working for it own, now i want to autostart it as soon as other hosts on the network are reachable |
| 08:00.47 | mjt | oh well. |
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| 08:01.17 | mjt | vpnc should do the route thing when it connects and should restore it when it disconnects |
| 08:02.05 | Schnabeltierchen | vpnc isn´t disconnecting, just routing traffic for 1 ip trough the vpn |
| 08:02.18 | Schnabeltierchen | the rest is routed trough the normal gateway |
| 08:02.19 | mjt | besides, never use fixed filenames in world-writable dirs |
| 08:02.30 | mjt | it is a big security hole |
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| 08:03.30 | Schnabeltierchen | but where to place that script? |
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| 08:03.45 | mjt | no idea |
| 08:04.16 | mjt | ahh, it restores the default route after vpnc changes it. oh wel |
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| 08:05.19 | Schnabeltierchen | the script is checking if my server is available, if it is, no problem, if not he connects to vpnc, resets the default gateway and just routes the traffic for my server trough the vpn |
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| 08:07.18 | Schnabeltierchen | it´s working fine, but i don´t know the exact point where to put it for autostart... cause it depends on a working network... |
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| 08:07.45 | mjt | so, is your server not available because the network card hasn't been initialized yet? Because you forgot to plug ethernet cable? Because wifi network isn't running yet? Because the nearest network switch or access point is powered down? Because your ISP connection is not working? Or because your monstanas server is turned off? |
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| 08:09.01 | mjt | (or because a single ping packet or a reply has been dropped by a random router in-betweeen) |
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| 08:09.44 | mjt | that's all about a definition of "connection is up" |
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| 08:10.03 | mjt | => afk for a bit |
| 08:10.19 | Schnabeltierchen | my server is working, it´s the client who get´s switched an, has to wait until network card is initialized and got his ip so the client is able to ping the server |
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| 08:32.32 | plundra | How/what is trying to start a second wpa_supplicant when I'm using ifupdown? I can see it starting wpa_supplicant fine, getting the address via dhcp fine, then wait a bit and fail due to wpa_suppicant failing. If I check journalctl I see a second pid, much higher than the initial one that actually did work and got me connected. |
| 08:32.54 | plundra | On a fresh jessie install. |
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| 08:37.45 | Iridos | plundra, doesn't /var/log/messages tell you? |
| 08:38.29 | Iridos | you might also have a look at https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/pkgreport.cgi?pkg=wpasupplicant |
| 08:38.49 | Iridos | possibly a bug report would belong to another package ... or maybe not |
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| 08:48.47 | plundra | Iridos: I managed to get it to work, but had no idea why - But finally managed to figure it out too :-) |
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| 08:49.25 | plundra | Iridos: The combination of using interfaces.d and the use of emacs :) (When I had a foo~ with the same interface again more or less, it failed) |
| 08:51.23 | plundra | Didn't bother to check if it was a particular hook, say for wpa_supplicant etc., or the actual source * in interfaces. |
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| 09:01.21 | mjt | how to blacklist all vga modules (radeon, intel, mga, etc) at once? |
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| 09:05.00 | mjt | pci:*bc03sc00i* does not work |
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| 09:12.36 | shentino | Is there a way to enable sid without manually editing sources.list? |
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| 09:16.14 | Shadow_7 | shentino: you could wget and dpkg -i all the debs manually, but that would just be stupid |
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| 09:19.48 | WizardGed-Work | shentino: to what end? |
| 09:20.04 | shentino | I want to install hexchat instead of xchat |
| 09:20.14 | shentino | but without installing anything *else* from sid |
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| 09:20.46 | WizardGed-Work | shentino: you can do package pinning |
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| 09:21.08 | humbot | hexchat is in wheezy-backports |
| 09:21.16 | cityoflights2 | is there a channel for networkmonitor ? |
| 09:21.59 | Shadow_7 | shentino: changing sources.list so deb-src is sid and compiling hexchat might be an option. Probably not preferred and never done it myself |
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| 09:23.13 | shentino | yeah it wants to uninstall X for this |
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| 09:23.36 | WizardGed-Work | you can look at apt pinning here --> http://jaqque.sbih.org/kplug/apt-pinning.html |
| 09:23.57 | shentino | I found backports, much saner |
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| 09:25.09 | WizardGed-Work | that was silly |
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| 09:26.22 | fd0 | http://cdn.debian.net is broken over ipv4, it returns 404 for everything |
| 09:26.31 | fd0 | is this already known? |
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| 09:26.56 | fd0 | eh, cdn.debian.net is broken over ipv6, over ipv4 it works just fine |
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| 09:28.33 | WizardGed-Work | fd0: which is broken ipv4 or ipv6? |
| 09:29.09 | frangor | fd0: https://wiki.debian.org/DebianGeoMirror |
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| 09:29.38 | frangor | The wiki sais that cdn is deprecated.. |
| 09:29.40 | fd0 | WizardGed-Work: ipv6 is broken |
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| 09:30.03 | frangor | says* |
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| 09:30.19 | fd0 | WizardGed-Work: try "curl -i http://cdn.debian.net/debian/dists/stable/Release" with -4 vs. -6 |
| 09:30.47 | mrtnt | What is a partman? A partition tool in Debian-installer? |
| 09:30.47 | fd0 | frangor: oh, didn't know about that. thanks! |
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| 09:32.43 | frangor | welcome |
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| 10:23.45 | MrAsk | I'm not sure which channel should I pick but... I wanna to try something with aircrack-ng via debian. What usb wifi antenna should I pick? (200-400m not more than 40$) |
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| 10:25.25 | petn-randall | MrAsk: Pick channel 1-11 in the 2.4GHz band, they're none to be useable in all countries. ;) |
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| 10:26.02 | petn-randall | MrAsk: Jokes aside, I don't think you can get 200-400m range from an integrated antenna. |
| 10:26.17 | dr3er0x | i have cable |
| 10:26.24 | dr3er0x | Linux debian 3.16.0-4-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 3.16.7-ckt4-3 (2015-02-03) x86_64 GNU/Linux |
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| 10:26.50 | dr3er0x | this is xfce... the rtl driver is free but i get 100mbps |
| 10:26.59 | dr3er0x | then nothing to do |
| 10:27.04 | dr3er0x | ufw enable etc... |
| 10:27.41 | dr3er0x | :-) |
| 10:27.41 | petn-randall | dr3er0x: And you want more than 100Mbit/s via your Ethernet card? |
| 10:27.45 | dr3er0x | nope |
| 10:28.01 | dr3er0x | my ethernet is 100 my router port is 1000 but my isp speed is 100 |
| 10:28.07 | dr3er0x | then i'm fine |
| 10:28.23 | petn-randall | dr3er0x: I'm still not sure what your question is then. |
| 10:28.25 | dr3er0x | ping 20ms |
| 10:28.30 | dr3er0x | question? |
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| 10:28.35 | dr3er0x | ah |
| 10:28.40 | dr3er0x | no i have no questions |
| 10:28.51 | dr3er0x | just can take this to *-social |
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| 10:29.23 | petn-randall | dr3er0x: Ah, ok. This is a Debian support channel. You can chat in #defocus or #moocows if y... and he's gone. |
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| 10:31.21 | dr3er0x | Host 'debian', running Linux 3.16.0-4-amd64 - Cpu0: Intel 1800 MHz Cpu1: Intel 1602 MHz Cpu2: Intel 1613 MHz Cpu3: Intel 1609 MHz; Up: 57 min; Users: 2; Load: 0; Free: [Mem: 10503/11915 Mio] [Swap: 12159/12159 Mio] [/: 876493/926300 Mio] [/boot/efi: 511/511 Mio]; Vpenis: 659.7 cm; |
| 10:31.29 | dr3er0x | this is better btw :-) |
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| 10:31.44 | tx | Good to know the size of your /boot/efi partition. |
| 10:31.46 | tx | >O> |
| 10:31.57 | dr3er0x | its a standard sizer |
| 10:32.06 | MrAsk | [11:26] <petn-randall> MrAsk: Jokes aside, I don't think you can get 200-400m range from an integrated antenna. |
| 10:32.14 | dr3er0x | the installer auto make it |
| 10:32.18 | dr3er0x | its not a secret |
| 10:32.29 | dr3er0x | and ^^V^^ |
| 10:32.56 | petn-randall | dr3er0x: Ah, ok. This is a Debian support channel. You can chat in #defocus or #moocows if you want. |
| 10:33.37 | dr3er0x | #defocus now is ##chat |
| 10:33.39 | dr3er0x | and no thanks |
| 10:34.04 | dr3er0x | #moocows ? ok i'll try it, now i'm install compilers. |
| 10:34.11 | dr3er0x | another day ;-) |
| 10:34.47 | MrAsk | it's why I'm asking. I want to spend less than 50$ and be able to use aircrack in rage 200-400m on debian. But I have nearly no knowleadge. |
| 10:35.46 | MrAsk | I know that not every antenna/card is supported by aircrack. And that many of them have only drivers for windows. (but it's possible to install windows driver on linux. Isn't it?) |
| 10:35.57 | dr3er0x | hehehe |
| 10:36.04 | dr3er0x | ok thanks, i love debian |
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| 10:36.36 | petn-randall | MrAsk: That's pretty much a 100% hardware question. Most wifi dongles you can get work fine in Debian. I just don't think you'll get any HW with that range for 50$. |
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| 10:38.15 | petn-randall | MrAsk: All modern cards are supported via libnl, the driver-specific support in aircrack-ng was from back in the day before the driver support was unified in libnl. |
| 10:38.18 | MrAsk | [11:38] == Cannot send to channel: ##hardware |
| 10:38.57 | petn-randall | MrAsk: aircrack-ng also has their own channel, you could ask there, or in #networking. |
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| 10:41.39 | Bremsstrahlung | On Debian wheezy, I use the lxde DE. When I try to shutdown from the DE, it gives me the prompt for the root password, but it immediately closes the prompt before I can enter the password. |
| 10:41.47 | Bremsstrahlung | What could be the issue? |
| 10:42.03 | Bremsstrahlung | I'm reading on Google it could be some polkit issue? |
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| 10:43.58 | MrAsk | #aircrack-ng |
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| 12:29.58 | flusive | Hi, I have big problem during restart apache server java apps are stopped. Someone know why? My java apps don't use any apache functionality |
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| 12:56.58 | Bremsstrahlung | Hm, any of you know a good, lightweight browser with Flash support? |
| 12:57.02 | Bremsstrahlung | For Debian, of course. :) |
| 12:57.23 | MY123 | Bremsstrahlung, chromium |
| 12:57.34 | Bremsstrahlung | Chromium is lightweight? |
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| 12:58.04 | opqw | Bremsstrahlung: midori. But it has bugs |
| 12:58.12 | MY123 | Bremsstrahlung, yeah |
| 12:58.12 | opqw | Bremsstrahlung: generally, the problem is more the website than the browser |
| 12:58.15 | Bremsstrahlung | I see. |
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| 12:58.53 | Bremsstrahlung | opqw: I see -- I was mostly interested in a lightweight browser for a low-end old system with Flash support, for YouTube. |
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| 12:59.54 | opqw | Bremsstrahlung: youtube is one of the fattest websites I know of |
| 13:00.06 | Bremsstrahlung | Yeah. |
| 13:00.09 | opqw | you may want a specialized application to browse youtube without a browser |
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| 13:00.21 | opqw | like minitube if I recall correctly, Miro, and a few others |
| 13:00.24 | Bremsstrahlung | That may be an alternative; such a thing exists for my Android devices. |
| 13:00.31 | Bremsstrahlung | I dunno about linux. |
| 13:00.32 | Bremsstrahlung | Oh, there we go. |
| 13:00.39 | opqw | Note you can watch Youtube videos in VLC by giving it the URL of the video |
| 13:00.45 | Bremsstrahlung | o.o |
| 13:00.47 | Bremsstrahlung | OK, that's new to me. |
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| 13:00.50 | opqw | you just can't browse though. |
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| 13:01.32 | Bremsstrahlung | I was looking at this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dillo |
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| 13:01.43 | Bremsstrahlung | But, "Dillo does not support JavaScript, Java, Flash, right-to-left text, complex text layout." |
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| 13:01.57 | Bremsstrahlung | Also, "A plug-in to add HTTPS support is likewise under development.[34]" |
| 13:02.03 | Bremsstrahlung | No secure browsing? Screw that. o.0 |
| 13:02.26 | opqw | well, you are basically looking for a small-size shirt for a pig, you are not going to find many browsers with your requirements |
| 13:02.38 | Bremsstrahlung | lol |
| 13:02.42 | opqw | flash is by nature a memory hog, prefer websites that use HTML5 |
| 13:02.44 | Bremsstrahlung | Yes, but no HTTPS? |
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| 13:04.24 | Bremsstrahlung | opqw: http://flavio.tordini.org/minitube |
| 13:04.27 | Bremsstrahlung | This does look promising. |
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| 13:05.46 | alphazulu | i had something odd happen. after a previous reboot of a debian wheezy system the network did not come up. i had to manually bring up eth0 and lo |
| 13:06.03 | alphazulu | any ideas why this might happen and how to fix it? |
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| 13:18.24 | BadCodSmell | I have /etc/init , how can I find out more about this on debian 7? Google no longer supports exact match search for things in quotes and /etc/init.d keeps coming up |
| 13:18.40 | BadCodSmell | Or sbin/init |
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| 13:21.41 | opqw | BadCodSmell: man 5 init |
| 13:23.25 | BadCodSmell | I think the problem is I have sysvinit and not upstart |
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| 13:25.16 | bOynOiz | Hello, have somebody know about setup and configuration Ubuntu Server in VM before clone or export to real server machine? anywhere I can read about this? |
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| 13:26.03 | adc | !ubuntu |
| 13:26.04 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
| 13:26.08 | Stummi | bOynOiz, thats #debian, ask in #ubunti |
| 13:26.10 | Stummi | *ubuntu |
| 13:26.24 | BadCodSmell | registers #ubunti |
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| 13:27.00 | Stummi | BadCodSmell, thats probably against freenodes TOS |
| 13:27.34 | bOynOiz | Oh, I see :) |
| 13:27.39 | humbot | #ubuntu-server does exist though |
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| 13:28.10 | bOynOiz | If that is Debian server? |
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| 13:30.00 | bOynOiz | My goal, I don't want to close my web server for long time to setup and configuration. |
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| 13:42.00 | abrotman | bOynOiz: We still don't support Ubuntu here, use #ubuntu |
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| 13:50.03 | bOynOiz | abrotman : sorry, my mistake. |
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| 13:50.28 | _lex | hi everyone. have someone successfully installed google-talkplugin on Debian Wheezy? Seems Google was kind to break it by requiring libc6 >= 2.14 which I don't have and don't even want to go to newer (also wheezy-backports doesn't have libc6 >= 2.14); thus I installed the i386 version but can't get it laoded into iceweasel |
| 13:50.51 | _lex | oogle-talkplugin : Depends: libc6 (>= 2.14) but 2.13-38+deb7u8 is to be installed |
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| 13:56.43 | jelly | _lex: that package is not made for debian wheezy, then |
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| 13:57.12 | _lex | jelly: well, they said "Ubuntu/Debian 64 bit" :-( they made a joke... probably's just for Ubuntu |
| 13:57.22 | _lex | jelly: any ideas how I can use the i386 one in amd64 iceweasel? |
| 13:57.34 | _lex | jelly: but anyways, I figured out that chromium has the plugin so i will use that for hanguots |
| 13:57.38 | jelly | _lex: did not seem to have tested the /Debian part |
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| 13:58.16 | _lex | jelly: yep :-) btw, yesterday i upgraded to jessie and the laptop got screwed up, reinstalled today wheezy 7.8.0 from scratch and all's fine now with i386 and multiarch and so on |
| 13:58.46 | BadCodSmell | What is the most basic window manager for debian that will let me maximise and position windows? |
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| 13:59.05 | BadCodSmell | I don't need any menus, hot keys, bananas, cows, just the most basic window management |
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| 13:59.47 | Stummi | BadCodSmell, if a tiling WM is enough: dwm or awesome, else fvwm |
| 14:00.53 | polyphagia | BadCodSmell: fluxbox is pretty small too but still does have a menu |
| 14:00.56 | BadCodSmell | Does dwm have any hotkeys or context menus? |
| 14:01.08 | BadCodSmell | I see /usr/share/menu/dwm |
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| 14:01.27 | polyphagia | dwm needs to be recompiled to make any config changes |
| 14:02.02 | nest0r | pekwm perhaps? |
| 14:02.14 | nest0r | evilwm? |
| 14:02.14 | Stummi | BadCodSmell, what do you actual want to do? |
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| 14:02.44 | BadCodSmell | To install a package that lets my app maximise its self without adding anything else |
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| 14:03.07 | Stummi | BadCodSmell, you want to have a kiosk system? |
| 14:03.16 | BadCodSmell | Something like that |
| 14:03.24 | d3lphi1 | where is xorg.conf located in Debian Jessie ? I'd like to do some customization but cannot find that file |
| 14:03.25 | BadCodSmell | Or my own shell, interface, etc. |
| 14:03.48 | Stummi | my personal choice would be fvwm |
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| 14:04.51 | BadCodSmell | Is it bare by default? |
| 14:04.59 | BadCodSmell | At this point I'm tempted to just make one. |
| 14:06.03 | Stummi | BadCodSmell, fvwm is kinda shitty with its default configuration, but its very flexible configurable |
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| 14:06.56 | BadCodSmell | I am hoping for something just unconfigured |
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| 14:07.18 | BadCodSmell | I'm now starting to wonder if I should just remove maximise and set width/height instead |
| 14:07.26 | Stummi | You hope for a tool which does what you want without needing to tell it what you want? |
| 14:07.44 | nkuttler | BadCodSmell: i like openbox. but it *can* do menus and a dock |
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| 14:08.58 | jelly | BadCodSmell: wm2 is very, very basic |
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| 14:09.21 | jelly | BadCodSmell: or just go and use devilspie to set initial geometries to stuff |
| 14:10.27 | BadCodSmell | That works |
| 14:11.00 | BadCodSmell | I MANAGE MY OWN WINDOW FOO |
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| 14:39.40 | c0rnel | hello |
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| 14:44.45 | ikarus | Anyone know of Debian builds of more up to date Mesa packages ? |
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| 14:45.56 | abrotman | ikarus: up to date than what? |
| 14:46.30 | ikarus | abrotman: those in SID |
| 14:46.33 | ikarus | err, sid |
| 14:47.11 | ikarus | 10.4.2 is mid last year, tons of bugs have been fixed since that point |
| 14:48.12 | ikarus | oh, wait, some numbers are wrong, but it's still 2 months old and there have been 3 releases since |
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| 14:48.26 | abrotman | ikarus: you can check experimental, use with caution |
| 14:48.47 | jelly | !slushy |
| 14:48.47 | dpkg | When a <testing> release becomes frozen, <unstable> tends to partially freeze as well. This is because developers are reluctant to upload radically new software to unstable, in case the frozen software in testing needs minor updates and to fix release critical bugs which keep testing from becoming <stable>. |
| 14:48.52 | jelly | ikarus: ^^ |
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| 14:50.41 | jelly | things usually speed up after the release |
| 14:51.01 | jelly | ,v libgl1-mesa-dri |
| 14:51.02 | judd | Package: libgl1-mesa-dri on i386 -- squeeze-security: 7.7.1-6; squeeze: 7.7.1-6; squeeze-backports: 7.10.3-4~bpo60+1; wheezy: 8.0.5-4+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 8.0.5-4+deb7u2; jessie: 10.3.2-1; sid: 10.4.2-2 |
| 14:51.31 | jelly | apparently nothing newer in experimental at present |
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| 15:12.17 | g00se | I keep getting boot errors (goes to initramfs prompt). I seem to have acquired a weird boot menu. Yes, i AM using testing, but even so: http://paste.debian.net/159441/ |
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| 15:14.30 | iLogic | i've installed gnome on a default debian (after i installed X and LXDE) and it switched to my default WM, where can I change it? |
| 15:14.51 | dofof | g00se: could be anything - missing kernel, damaged filesystem, hard to know without the real error message. Is there any error message in the initramfs prompt? |
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| 15:16.29 | Walex | iLogic: WM or DM? |
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| 15:19.18 | g00se | dofof: Not that i can see. If i choose explicitly from the menu then there are no problems with booting |
| 15:19.44 | tmh1999 | Hi guys, I hope some one could help me :D When I do $ apt-get upgrade, I see like, "Need to get 65.8 MB/75.6 MB of archives" even though I haven't downloaded/upgraded since the last upgrade. So I just think that Debian automatically download some packages for me (?!) I suppose /usr/lib/packagekit/packagekitd do that. Am I right? Thanks. |
| 15:19.53 | tmh1999 | and I am on Debian Jessie. |
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| 15:21.06 | mtn | tmh1999: what do you mean by last upgrade? jessie doesn't have upgrades, as far as I know |
| 15:21.39 | g00se | Jessie will be constantly churning until stable, so expect that most days |
| 15:22.01 | tmh1999 | mtn : I meant "last upgrade" by "all packages has been updated/upgraded at this time" |
| 15:22.28 | mtn | tmh1999: couple of days ago? 2 months ago? |
| 15:22.29 | tmh1999 | g00se : Yes I know that but my question does not relate to that, I think (?!) |
| 15:22.36 | tmh1999 | mtn: couple of days |
| 15:23.04 | mtn | tmh1999: sounds about right without any automatic downloads happening. |
| 15:23.08 | tmh1999 | mtn: If it is as usual I think it should be Need to get 75.6/75.6MB |
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| 15:24.34 | g00se | Were i to delete boot.cfg, would a new one get auto-generated by grub-install? |
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| 15:25.25 | mtn | g00se: do you mean grub.cfg? |
| 15:25.43 | zeeble | tmh1999: You stopped or quit while doing a apt-get update earlier, so it downloaded 9.8MB out of 75.6MB required, and when you ran it later, it said it needed to get 65.8 out of the 75.6.. |
| 15:25.55 | mtn | g00se: and you would use update-grub |
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| 15:27.33 | tmh1999 | zeeble: I did think about that and I did observe that, but no. I tried few times doing full upgrade, and 1,2 days or more, maybe a week later, then do $ apt-get upgrade again, and it happens. |
| 15:28.11 | zeeble | tmh1999: There is no other reason when it will show x amount left of total download. |
| 15:28.21 | tmh1999 | by full upgrade I mean downloaded 75.6 MB and installed all of them. |
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| 15:28.44 | tmh1999 | zeeble : Well that's why I'm so confused. |
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| 15:28.49 | Klapo | hello guys |
| 15:28.53 | zeeble | do apt-get clean && apt-get update && apt-get upgrade |
| 15:29.49 | tmh1999 | zeeble : Okay it seems solved. "Need to get 75.6 MB of archives." |
| 15:30.07 | zeeble | tmh1999: If it still says need to get 75.6MB, then what did you install? |
| 15:30.18 | Klapo | can someone help me? I'm trying to get kvm working (my xml 16:29:44 -!- Irssi: Join to #debian was synced in 1 secs |
| 15:30.21 | Klapo | ... |
| 15:30.23 | zeeble | If it downloads and performs the update, you won't see X to download |
| 15:30.44 | Klapo | can someone help me? I'm trying to get kvm working (my xml http://wklej.org/id/1653557/ ), problem: error: Unable to create tap device vnet%d: Operation not permitted |
| 15:30.53 | g00se | thinks he deleted the wrong file :( Luckily he backed it up first |
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| 15:32.05 | tmh1999 | zeeble : $ apt-get clean remove 9.8 MB and now I get the response "Need to get 75.6 MB of archives." |
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| 15:32.46 | zeeble | tmh1999: Then, let apt-get update take care of the download and install of the updated packages? |
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| 15:33.25 | tmh1999 | zeeble : Sure. |
| 15:33.26 | g00se | Actually no i didn't. Backing up grub.cfg then deleting that file plus running grub-install seems to have created a whole new i386 directory! |
| 15:33.29 | d3lphi1 | Hi all. I am on Jessie with Gnome (gdm3), running on a notebook Lenovo Z710. When I press Fn+F10 to switch from internal screen to external monitor it doesn't work as expected. I get only the screen on my projector displayed. Although in "settings" I choose to ENABLE also the internal screen it doesn't show anything. When I press CTRL-ALT-F1 to switch to another tty I see both screens working simultaneously. Why doesn' |
| 15:33.46 | d3lphi1 | do I need any additional package installed for that? |
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| 15:34.34 | mtn | g00se: grub-install installs your current grub somewhere, update-grub makes a new grub.cfg |
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| 15:37.53 | g00se | mtn: It worryingly announced that it would be installing for i386, despite the fact that i'm on amd64 |
| 15:38.30 | mtn | g00se: "it" being what in this case? |
| 15:38.38 | g00se | grub-install |
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| 15:39.24 | miss0r | Hello people. I am facing an issue regarding my touchscreen. I have figured out how to change the configuration with xinput set-prop command, and that made everything work alright. But; when I attach a new device via USB, the ID number of the touchscreen changes, and the configuration I made basically doesn't work. I have tried using the xinput set-prop "name of device" command, but since my |
| 15:39.24 | miss0r | touchscreen, for some reason, shows up twice in the xinput list, it will not use the name as an identifyer. Then I found this script: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/18755967/how-to-make-a-program-that-finds-ids-of-xinput-devices-and-sets-xinput-some-set/18756948#18756948 When I added my device name "eGalax Inc. Touch" in the search field, and ran it. It basically fscked up my mouse. I found |
| 15:39.24 | miss0r | that strange and commented out the configuration part and just added echo "$i"; it turns out it just writes out all the avaliable xinput IDs. I am not very good at scripting, so i've hit a wall here, Can anyone help? |
| 15:39.27 | mtn | g00se: I don't think it means what you think it means. not a problem as far as I know. |
| 15:40.04 | BLZbubba | great work on jessie upgrades, i just upgraded one of my servers from squeeze -> jessie and it is working very well (if I use sysvinit boot) |
| 15:40.42 | g00se | OK. But now find /boot/grub -name \*.cfg returns nothing |
| 15:40.42 | BLZbubba | is there a good systemd-for-n00bs guide that you can recommend? |
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| 15:41.24 | mtn | BLZbubba: the arch wiki has a very good systemd section |
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| 15:43.22 | mtn | g00se: I have told you a couple of times that you need to run update-grub to make a new grub.cfg |
| 15:44.08 | g00se | OK. I would have thought that grub-install would make one too. I'll give it a go |
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| 15:44.13 | jelly | I've found useful stuff via googles in arch wiki much more often than in ours |
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| 15:45.07 | polyphagia | yeah jelly i'd really like to change that |
| 15:45.14 | polyphagia | i've been helping out a bit but it's overwhelming :P |
| 15:45.31 | jelly | warns arch people someone wants to ruin their wiki |
| 15:46.11 | g00se | mtn: unfortunately that gave me a file identical to the previous one |
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| 15:47.04 | mtn | g00se: see the grub wiki on how to edit grub files. |
| 15:47.57 | g00se | OK thanks |
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| 15:48.14 | aeg | Is there a way to call a script form bind9 start or restart so that i can generate a reverse db ? |
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| 15:48.42 | aeg | form = from |
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| 15:55.30 | bigterd | i was doing the trick of writing an iso to pen drive, then fdisk another partition so i had a place to save data. seems now fdisk goes angry and complains cylinder0 is where the first partition ends to create a new one? somthing go weird i'm not catching? |
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| 15:57.46 | BLZbubba | Mein Luftkissenfahrzeug ist voller Aale |
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| 16:03.58 | jere | I downloaded DVD images of debian from here: http://cdimage.debian.org/debian-cd/7.8.0/i386/bt-dvd/ |
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| 16:04.31 | jere | I then used Unetbootin to write my USB with first DVD of debian. |
| 16:04.32 | patachu | hi |
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| 16:04.46 | jere | But when I plug it in, I get corrupted kernel image. |
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| 16:05.32 | patachu | I request your help, just installed Debby on my big PC; went for a good update (debian liveCD - Squeeze 64bit) and the update manager freezes at Applying changes |
| 16:05.33 | jere | How can I write DVD1 and DVD2 to my USB to make it bootable? |
| 16:05.45 | Klapo | Hmm guys, I'm trying to get this up http://wklej.org/id/1653566/ on normal user, I'm in libvirt and kvm groups, br0 interface exists, yet I'm getting this error: error: Unable to create tap device vnet%d: Operation not permitted |
| 16:05.49 | Klapo | any clues? |
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| 16:05.56 | patachu | it was asking me like, "do you want to keep something Y/I , default: N" |
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| 16:06.18 | patachu | i'm tempted to press reset but it's still alive |
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| 16:06.29 | patachu | if i do it i know i'm going to regret it |
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| 16:07.21 | patachu | jere : i had this issue and found out after a chkdsk my SD card was dying |
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| 16:07.44 | patachu | so i burned mine on a cute mini-DVD |
| 16:07.54 | jere | patachu: did you write both DVDs to USB or only DVD1? |
| 16:08.02 | roycroft | hi folks |
| 16:08.05 | patachu | only one DVD |
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| 16:08.28 | roycroft | i was here the other day and mentioned that i'm building my first production debian server and had some issues with lvm and encrypted filesystems |
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| 16:09.25 | roycroft | i ended up deciding to simplify and add the components one at a time, so i created a standard partition for the os, and a lvm physical partition using the rest of the free space, which i intended to utilize later |
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| 16:09.36 | roycroft | the os install went fine, and now i'm ready to expand to some lvm volumes |
| 16:09.52 | patachu | good luck |
| 16:10.03 | roycroft | the lvm utilities, as i find documented, do not exist though - are they installed only if used by the installer? |
| 16:10.10 | mtn | jere: don't use unetbootin |
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| 16:10.17 | roycroft | if so, is there a package i can add now to get them? |
| 16:10.27 | mbarrin | Does anyone know why sid has mysql-5.6 but libmysqlclient-dev is only 5.5? |
| 16:10.38 | littlebit | hi poeple, I was successful at setting up and configuring my first dhcp server which was easy. I'm now looking at setting up a dhcp-relay server and googling brought me to different kinds of solutions like these: http://yourtoolbox.blogspot.de/2013/01/dhcp-forwarding-with-relay-server.html http://linuxconfig.org/what-is-dhcp-and-how-to-configure-dhcp-server-in-linux |
| 16:10.43 | roycroft | i installed wheezy, btw |
| 16:10.49 | jere | mtn: What should I use then? |
| 16:10.58 | mtn | !unetbootin |
| 16:10.58 | dpkg | UNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer) allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux distributions. http://unetbootin.sf.net/ Not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>. |
| 16:11.02 | littlebit | the thing is that one link mentions to install a dhcp server first and another doesn't. |
| 16:11.18 | mtn | jere: https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/amd64/ch04s03.html.en |
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| 16:11.56 | mtn | jere: if in windows, use win32diskimager like dpkg mentioned |
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| 16:15.34 | patachu | quick question, is there a way to debug a running program? |
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| 16:17.54 | jelly | patachu: gdb and strace can attach to a running process |
| 16:18.11 | patachu | how do i kill it? |
| 16:18.23 | jelly | patachu: kill what? |
| 16:18.29 | patachu | at least on windows i have ctrl-shift-esk to neutralize this vermin. |
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| 16:18.35 | patachu | end this kind of process |
| 16:18.42 | jelly | what kind of process? |
| 16:18.49 | patachu | whatever hangs on my installer |
| 16:19.18 | jelly | if you've identified the process id, use the kill command |
| 16:19.24 | patachu | explain |
| 16:19.32 | patachu | i'll type |
| 16:19.53 | patachu | enters su... |
| 16:20.12 | jelly | you'd open a separate shell, use the ps command to look at the process list, and use the kill command to kill them by their pid number |
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| 16:20.56 | roycroft | alt-f1 will open a console window while the installer is running |
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| 16:21.46 | patachu | no, this be summoniong the start menu clone. i'm into X. |
| 16:22.00 | patachu | and for the processes |
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| 16:22.02 | jelly | patachu: however, I'm not willing to explain the basics of unix/linux tools at this moment. Find a nice linux book, or read a random tutorial like https://www.digitalocean.com/community/tutorials/how-to-use-ps-kill-and-nice-to-manage-processes-in-linux |
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| 16:22.11 | patachu | not a lot of things are visible there |
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| 16:22.49 | patachu | ok thanks for the link, i'm not going to get into a whole fucking book like an aspie to get just an operational desktop to WORK |
| 16:23.18 | freeone3000 | Hey. I've got pulseaudio installed, and alsamixer is using it, but I'm not able to play sound on my Lenovo ThinkPad E531. What should I check next, after having followed the instructions on https://wiki.debian.org/PulseAudio/ ? |
| 16:23.38 | patachu | ahaaah |
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| 16:23.48 | patachu | pig disgusting dpkg |
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| 16:24.04 | patachu | freeone : good taste in laptops~ |
| 16:24.36 | patachu | had some issue with mine a while ago but i can't remeber how i fixed it |
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| 16:25.41 | shay_shay | hai |
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| 16:26.08 | jelly | freeone3000: start alsamixer again. Press F6, choose the real audio device. Make sure all the outputs are unmuted and loud enough. |
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| 16:28.20 | patachu | if one day o get into C++, I will make the equivalent of process explorer for GNU plus Linux |
| 16:28.34 | shay_shay | patachu: this free book is excellent : http://linuxcommand.org/tlcl.php |
| 16:29.08 | patachu | yes |
| 16:29.19 | freeone3000 | jelly: My options are "default", "HDMI Out", and "Lenovo Console". "Default" seems to be pulseaudio, and is at 100%. "HDMI Out" is at 50%, but since my HDMI cable is connected to a monitor without speakers, does me no good. "Lenovo Console" is set to "Console (Off)" with no options, and no "Master" volume. |
| 16:29.26 | patachu | i have also three large books aout the SCO UNIX operating system |
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| 16:29.48 | patachu | most commands i know here comes from there but it's from the Vaporwave era |
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| 16:30.20 | patachu | i just expected the community to know better about these bugs |
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| 16:30.45 | jelly | I personally know almost nothing about specific bugs. |
| 16:31.18 | patachu | okay i just rebooted and it is really... magnificently fucked up |
| 16:31.47 | patachu | debian, passed the grub, kernel 3 now/ i don't recall asking for this ._. |
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| 16:32.14 | patachu | it is ... probing the USB or something... |
| 16:32.18 | patachu | strange... |
| 16:32.24 | freeone3000 | patachu: You're describing normal startup. |
| 16:32.45 | shay_shay | xD |
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| 16:33.04 | jelly | freeone3000: hm, just those three? Can you take a screenshot? Resize the terminal or move cursors right to see if there are more controls? |
| 16:33.22 | jelly | freeone3000: also, screenshot of the F6 screen would be nice |
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| 16:33.56 | ivan-kanis | how come the i386 mirror is twice the size of ia64? https://www.debian.org/mirror/size |
| 16:34.17 | patachu | not really on a SSD + Athlon FX 8-core |
| 16:34.39 | patachu | just relaunched the install from a root shell |
| 16:34.58 | patachu | because cant start x |
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| 16:36.23 | shay_shay | patachu: i'm too lazy to scroll up and see if this is aplicable because frankly you're way too verbose... but check xorg log ? |
| 16:36.47 | patachu | i'm on it |
| 16:36.56 | shay_shay | also syslog |
| 16:37.38 | patachu | which folder? not /X11? |
| 16:37.50 | patachu | ah var |
| 16:37.52 | patachu | sorry |
| 16:38.05 | shay_shay | if xorglog is not as recent as your most recent reboot then check syslog |
| 16:38.16 | jelly | ivan-kanis: Itanium platform, ia64, has been abandoned a while back. amd64 is for 64bit PC-s. Yes, even those with Intel processors. |
| 16:39.02 | Bremsstrahlung | Hm, what are the ideal places Debian should look for packages? That is, the best things to put in sources.list. I try to install ttf-mscorefonts-installer and it says "Package foo is not available, but is referred to by another package." |
| 16:39.36 | ivan-kanis | jelly: thanks, I could have downloaded the wrong architecture by accident |
| 16:39.39 | jelly | !tell Bremsstrahlung about contrib |
| 16:39.42 | jelly | !tell Bremsstrahlung about non-free |
| 16:39.51 | freeone3000 | jelly: Sorry for the delay. Screenshots: http://pho.to/8x8rw |
| 16:40.53 | patachu | i hate consoles in 640x480 |
| 16:41.12 | shay_shay | Bremsstrahlung: you might need to add "contrib non-free" to your sources.list to get that package |
| 16:41.17 | freeone3000 | jelly: Sorry, F6 menu didn't grab it right. http://postimg.org/image/fh9vr17n1/ |
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| 16:42.10 | freeone3000 | patachu: The fix is to either get a framebuffer (vesa in kernel init options, specified in grub), or to get to a x server as quickly as possible. Most users favor the latter. |
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| 16:42.15 | jelly | freeone3000: that MM down at the each volume column means it's Muted! Use the m key and cursors to bring it way up and unmute |
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| 16:42.21 | MY123 | x86 programs on ia64 are way too slow |
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| 16:42.41 | freeone3000 | MY123: It goes through a hardware instruction translation layer. Yeah, they're going to be sluggish. |
| 16:42.57 | patachu | nvm |
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| 16:43.06 | patachu | this shit installed me a 3.x kernel |
| 16:43.08 | eugenmayer | Hello, are there any specific mirror instead of using http://http.debian.net/debian/ ? i need to open the firewall for a specific domain, cant use the geo redirector |
| 16:43.18 | eugenmayer | (looking for squeeze-lts) |
| 16:43.23 | patachu | and fucking gnome 3 abomination |
| 16:43.32 | jelly | freeone3000: so unmute and raise Intel PCH's Master, raise Speaker, unmute and raise Pulseaudio Master... |
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| 16:43.35 | MY123 | freeone3000: and even Transmeta CPUs are faster |
| 16:43.37 | patachu | i got my squeeze from |
| 16:43.45 | patachu | let me get you the link one minute |
| 16:43.51 | jelly | patachu: cut down on the swearing, please |
| 16:44.05 | shay_shay | !tell Bremsstrahlung about non-free sources |
| 16:44.14 | shay_shay | i hope that worked :P |
| 16:44.25 | jelly | shay_shay: dpkg told you what it did |
| 16:44.33 | shay_shay | ah |
| 16:44.39 | shay_shay | sorry jelly |
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| 16:45.29 | jelly | shay_shay: once you're comfortable with trusting dpkg bot, you can use "-about" instead of "about" to just do things without notifying you back |
| 16:45.35 | freeone3000 | jelly: Ah. It's pulseaudio's master. That worked, thanks! (Though I have to make the numbers larger than I did on Windows. I'll look into audio boost, thanks) |
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| 16:46.07 | jelly | freeone3000: do raise the physical card's stuff as well. |
| 16:46.25 | shay_shay | jelly: good to know, thanks |
| 16:46.43 | jelly | freeone3000: after you get it working, you can use "pavucontrol" utility to tune outputs and volume for each app |
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| 16:47.35 | freeone3000 | jelly: Awesome, thanks. |
| 16:48.29 | freeone3000 | patachu: It installed you a 3.x kernel because the current kernel version is 3.16. It installed you gnome 3, because you requested "Desktop Environment", and GNOME is... the most popular. |
| 16:48.35 | patachu | http://live.debian.net/cdimage/release/6.0.10/ |
| 16:48.59 | patachu | ok i'm going to get rid of this monstrosity |
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| 16:49.51 | NoImNotNineVolt | if you think gnome3 is bad, just wait'll you see unity :P |
| 16:49.52 | patachu | eugenmayer: http://live.debian.net/cdimage/release/6.0.10/amd64/iso-hybrid/debian-live-6.0.10-amd64-gnome-desktop.iso i use this one |
| 16:50.01 | patachu | I did |
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| 16:50.16 | patachu | it's like windows 8... with more... idk, it's bad |
| 16:50.23 | patachu | never touching ubuntu after that |
| 16:50.53 | patachu | there is no right click on gnome 3? |
| 16:51.24 | jelly | patachu: what made you choose the previous release anyway, how old is your hardware |
| 16:51.38 | patachu | jelly: nbone of your busines |
| 16:51.43 | patachu | *none |
| 16:51.44 | mtn | heh |
| 16:51.59 | mtn | good way to get help :P |
| 16:52.19 | patachu | i didn't asked him anything, if you want to know, i prefer the gnome 2 interface |
| 16:52.37 | freeone3000 | patachu: The user interface is well divorced from the OS. I'm running e19 on Debian, and look around, nobody cares. |
| 16:52.39 | jelly | patachu: helping users and keeping order in here _is_ my business. It's usually saner to use the current release. |
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| 16:53.09 | patachu | look, it's my computer, not yours. |
| 16:53.12 | jelly | for me, xfce was an acceptable alternative to gnome 2 |
| 16:53.20 | patachu | yeah it's not bad either |
| 16:53.26 | patachu | clean, lightweight... |
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| 16:53.50 | shay_shay | patachu: not to go against what jelly said, but on the opposite end of the spectrum Jessie has MATE if you really want gnome 2 |
| 16:54.01 | patachu | but well, i also use XP , so why should i >instal vista it's better >install xin8 it's cuter ! |
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| 16:54.35 | patachu | no. i like it the way it is already ! |
| 16:54.37 | patachu | haha. |
| 16:54.39 | jelly | patachu: for one thing, squeeze had no security support until squeeze-lts came along |
| 16:54.40 | patachu | that discussion |
| 16:54.47 | patachu | >security |
| 16:55.29 | patachu | it's not my business right now, i'm looking for a way to get my 9800GT to work properly |
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| 16:55.48 | patachu | i might ask you some things, in the meantime thanks for the links and everything! |
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| 16:56.43 | patachu | but just for the fun is it normal that there's no contextual menu on gnome the third? |
| 16:57.40 | patachu | please.. .tell me it's a bug |
| 16:58.16 | shay_shay | there is a context menu |
| 16:58.45 | jelly | does not know anyone actually using gnome 3 |
| 16:58.51 | shay_shay | the desktop has one and so does the file manager |
| 16:58.54 | mtn | jelly: snort |
| 16:59.11 | patachu | okay 'm going to sudo remove this |
| 16:59.16 | patachu | thanks ! |
| 16:59.27 | shay_shay | 0.0 |
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| 17:01.07 | sine0 | hi gyuys. |
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| 17:01.08 | patachu | i just ... oh it's beautiful |
| 17:01.09 | sine0 | and gals |
| 17:01.12 | patachu | hi |
| 17:01.19 | patachu | brb testing out ...twm |
| 17:01.50 | patachu | plays some vaporwave music while using TWM |
| 17:02.01 | sine0 | Im trying to install a software. it says that I do not have xinetd or inetd and to install one of them and try again. I have init.d (i think this is another verion?) is this right |
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| 17:02.38 | jelly | sine0: init is a different beast from the inet superserver, inetd. Go install bsd-inetd. |
| 17:03.11 | sine0 | esplain me more plz |
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| 17:03.58 | jelly | sine0: pardon, openbsd-inetd. It's an antiquated way of running network-facing services. |
| 17:04.15 | patachu | sudo apt-get install openbsd-inetd |
| 17:04.20 | jelly | sine0: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inetd or whatever |
| 17:04.26 | patachu | went through this too a while ago |
| 17:04.58 | sine0 | i feel so dumb |
| 17:05.19 | sine0 | If i install this do I have to reconfigure all my services that I have in place at the moment |
| 17:05.23 | patachu | no, it's just systems that are baing ivercomplicated |
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| 17:06.51 | jelly | sine0: no. You're installing it just for that one thing that asked for it, and it won't affect other, standalone services that you already have in place. |
| 17:07.02 | sine0 | oh sweet |
| 17:07.34 | sine0 | as a worm once said in the origional and best version of the game ever, incoming....... |
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| 17:09.44 | johnfg | hi folks |
| 17:10.31 | johnfg | In order to have my irc client look/work nice, I install whatever takes care of identd. |
| 17:10.56 | johnfg | I looked for it on my new debian jessie, but am not sure what takes care of this. |
| 17:11.17 | johnfg | On wheezy and earlier, I think it was auth, or authd, but I don't see that. |
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| 17:13.16 | sine0 | oidentd ? |
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| 17:14.55 | johnfg | sine0: Got it. synaptic was behaving kind of weird, so it hadn't shown it. Thanks! |
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| 17:16.55 | jelly | johnfg: "apt-cache search identd" will show half a dozen alternatives (and some extra unrelated stuff) |
| 17:17.13 | sine0 | omg have i helped my first person with a linux question!?! |
| 17:17.15 | jelly | show |
| 17:17.20 | jelly | slow, too |
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| 17:17.35 | sine0 | +1 to me |
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| 17:19.30 | patachu | ok i might require your help, ... if... if you don't mind |
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| 17:21.35 | jelly | !ask |
| 17:21.35 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 17:21.53 | L0aD1nG | Can someone explain me what if the number 3. on this post https://bits.debian.org/2014/07/kernel-version-for-jessie.html means that the kernel of Debian Jessie will be maintained by Ubuntu kernel team? |
| 17:22.02 | L0aD1nG | s/what// |
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| 17:22.41 | L0aD1nG | or am I terribly misunderstood? |
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| 17:22.58 | jelly | L0aD1nG: it means the ubuntu kernel team will act as upstream for that branch. Debian kernel team will still do what they do. |
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| 17:23.45 | ksk | L0aD1nG: I dont really know, but I read that like ubuntu is going to do the hard work (in maintaining that kernel) but Ben Hutchings will take care that security-fixes and stuff get ported to the jessie kernel |
| 17:23.46 | L0aD1nG | jelly: what do you mean by "act as upstream" ? |
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| 17:24.39 | L0aD1nG | no it says that Hutchings will actually start working on it when Ubuntu kernel team will get off on 2016 |
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| 17:24.49 | ksk | L0aD1nG: its not like debian writes many own software programms. they take everything from upstream (like mozilla, gnu, kernel.org) and make it work in debian |
| 17:25.04 | jelly | L0aD1nG: debian is a distribution of software written by different authors. The original authors and maintainers are "upstream", users and derivatives of Debian are "downstream" |
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| 17:25.22 | L0aD1nG | ohhh |
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| 17:25.59 | L0aD1nG | so to conclude will the Debian's 8 kernel be maintain from the Debian kernel team from the start till the end, as normally does? |
| 17:26.10 | jelly | yes |
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| 17:27.00 | L0aD1nG | okay thanks... |
| 17:27.11 | jelly | L0aD1nG: to make things more confusing, benh is at this time acting as both upstream for 3.2.* kernels, and as part of debian kernel team. |
| 17:27.18 | L0aD1nG | but why does it even mention the Ubuntu kernel team on that post... isn't that weird? |
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| 17:28.10 | jelly | L0aD1nG: they'll do the upstream work until 2016. |
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| 17:28.54 | L0aD1nG | ohh so the Linux 3.16 will be maintained on the first place by Ubuntu kernel team? is this correct? |
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| 17:29.01 | jelly | yes |
| 17:29.05 | L0aD1nG | fuck me |
| 17:29.09 | L0aD1nG | wtf is this |
| 17:29.32 | jelly | dpkg: fuck L0aD1nG |
| 17:29.32 | dpkg | i haven't a clue, jelly |
| 17:29.40 | L0aD1nG | and why Debian goes for 3.16 as stable? |
| 17:30.05 | L0aD1nG | If it is depreciated that way that not even the original developers will maintain it as longterm? |
| 17:30.26 | jelly | someone will maintain it longterm. |
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| 17:30.35 | L0aD1nG | yea Ubuntu Kernel Team... |
| 17:30.57 | jelly | L0aD1nG: if you think you'd do a better job, sign up by all means |
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| 17:31.21 | L0aD1nG | jelly: did I say something like this? |
| 17:31.40 | L0aD1nG | I am asking for clues about the 3.16 pick up. |
| 17:32.08 | mtn | L0aD1nG: the whole thing seems pretty straight forward and easy to understand |
| 17:32.22 | L0aD1nG | I understood what is going on.. |
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| 17:32.24 | jelly | L0aD1nG: no, you just made ambiguously derogatory noises towards the people who WILL maintain it for a good bit |
| 17:32.29 | L0aD1nG | I am moving forward to why? |
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| 17:33.18 | jelly | L0aD1nG: because the distro needs some kind of stable platform for its kernel during the duration of jessie |
| 17:33.49 | L0aD1nG | why even pick this kernel version if it is not going to be maintained by the original Linux kernel devs, this is the question now... and I don't make noise at all I ask fairly clean questions I guess. |
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| 17:34.23 | jelly | L0aD1nG: no longterm release is maintained by "original devs" anyway |
| 17:34.41 | jelly | the "original devs" is a 1000-people with code in the tree |
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| 17:35.31 | L0aD1nG | I see |
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| 17:36.11 | L0aD1nG | okay thanks for the info, I hope I didn't disturbed you guys... but it seemed weird to me in the first place. |
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| 17:37.00 | dokoo | suse is going to use 3.16 as well |
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| 17:37.13 | dokoo | this is like when redhat/ubu 12.04/wheezy used the same 3.2 kernel |
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| 17:37.34 | jelly | L0aD1nG: if you look at "longterm" branches on https://kernel.org/, one person or a small dev team manages each one of those. Some have gkh as their manager, some have other people. |
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| 17:39.43 | L0aD1nG | jelly: okay thank you! |
| 17:39.51 | L0aD1nG | I am out, goodbye |
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| 17:41.47 | dokoo | too bad that the original devs don't take the time to update the -stable branches, though. |
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| 17:46.26 | patachu | why am i doing all this? |
| 17:46.34 | patachu | i've lost the control of my life |
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| 17:47.46 | flyingkiwi | is he gonna kill himself? |
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| 17:50.15 | oskie | I have a little issue with Samba in Debian - despite "create mask = 0644" I'm getting files with mode 674 +POSIX extended acls |
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| 17:51.56 | x86iac | another ugly incident in #debian ... when will it end? ;) |
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| 18:07.18 | patachu | who's your favorite between XFS and ext4? |
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| 18:12.44 | BLZbubba | xfs |
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| 18:15.55 | x86iac | ext3 |
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| 18:21.38 | Deicide34 | Finally configured Openbox this morning the way I want it. Only hard part was making it reboot and shutdown from the menu. Isn't so scary as I though. :D |
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| 18:27.27 | Deicide34 | thought* |
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| 18:30.54 | gammaleak | Any thoughts on how I can get a hold of a 64-bit Debian install iso that ONLY has BIOS compatibility mode (i.e., NO EFI)? |
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| 18:38.13 | polyphagia | why gammaleak |
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| 18:46.09 | gammaleak | polyphagia: I'm trying to install Debian to a Macmini2,1 which has a 64-bit cpu, but stupidly has only a 32-bit EFI bootloader |
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| 18:47.10 | gammaleak | polyphagia: The upshot is that you have two options: roll your own install that has a 32-bit EFI bootloader, or use Boot Camp with BIOS compatibility mode. |
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| 18:47.49 | gammaleak | polyphagia: I'd happily roll my own Debian disk with a 32-bit EFI bootloader if I knew how... but I don't even know where I'd get started with that. |
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| 18:48.36 | gammaleak | polyphagia: But now I'm running into the problem that even getting the BIOS Compatibility boot to go isn't working out. |
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| 19:12.08 | Bremsstrahlung | On Debian wheezy with lxde, the file manager doesn't seem to have icons, and it's behaving oddly. |
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| 19:12.24 | Bremsstrahlung | Like, if I pass the mouse cursor over something, the icon shows up, but then it disappears again. |
| 19:12.24 | aeg | Is there a way to call a script from bind9 start or reload so that i can generate a reverse db ? |
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| 19:15.34 | patachu | hi again, finally reverted to my good old squeeze that works not that bad but has a left click operational, where can i find a sources.list that's interesting |
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| 19:16.19 | patachu | i'm trying to reinstall the equivalent of softwares i have on my gentoo thinkpad without needing to compile all that for my amd64 machine |
| 19:17.52 | patachu | anyone? |
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| 19:18.28 | patachu | in return i'll draw your pony OC or fursona ! |
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| 19:25.40 | x86iac | patachu: do you have squeeze-lts in the sources.list? |
| 19:25.50 | patachu | nope |
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| 19:27.25 | patachu | >amazon |
| 19:27.53 | patachu | even debian met the jew ._. |
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| 19:28.21 | patachu | i'm sure i did not install this, but it's by default now. |
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| 19:33.22 | patachu | x86iac: oh yes I can install PACMAN now! |
| 19:33.24 | patachu | thanks! |
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| 19:37.36 | NoImNotNineVolt | patachu: are you feeling okay? |
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| 19:49.14 | SmashingX2 | If UNIX users reach servers via SSH, and we only want to allow pubkey logins, are there any other items that need to be added to this list, that I should be concerned with besides allowing pubkey login in the sshd_config file on the server |
| 19:49.15 | SmashingX2 | and considerations for a Default password, such as "!" or "*" |
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| 20:07.03 | patachu | NoImNotNineVolt: well no, i have lost my mind. |
| 20:07.10 | patachu | but thanks for caring. |
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| 20:07.35 | NoImNotNineVolt | :( |
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| 20:14.08 | luna900 | how do you set the time? |
| 20:14.25 | luna900 | im using openbox / tint2 |
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| 20:16.42 | AlphaTech | Does anyone know how to make a channel indexing bot that posts to the web (similar to the one at search.mibbit.com)? I'd like a custom one for my IRC Network |
| 20:18.08 | Spec | AlphaTech: google it? |
| 20:18.20 | Spec | pierc looks okay |
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| 20:20.40 | AlphaTech | Spec: I did, I've been searching for around 15 minutes now and I can't find anything close to relevant. |
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| 20:21.50 | Spec | AlphaTech: pierc? |
| 20:23.00 | AlphaTech | oh |
| 20:23.17 | AlphaTech | I thought you were talking to someone named pierc xD |
| 20:23.27 | Spec | it was first google hit for irc log bot web thingy |
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| 20:24.22 | AlphaTech | yeah it only looks like it logs |
| 20:24.37 | AlphaTech | I want a bot that is similar to a channel indexer |
| 20:24.46 | Spec | really? |
| 20:24.48 | Spec | Pierc is an IRC Logbot, paired with a web application for browsing and searching through logs. |
| 20:25.19 | Spec | you could write your own with solr if you wanted |
| 20:25.30 | AlphaTech | yeah channel logs; not indexing every single channel on the IRC Network similar to what mibbit does |
| 20:25.38 | AlphaTech | I'm good with eggdrops though ;) |
| 20:25.41 | Spec | ah, i see |
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| 20:28.48 | AlphaTech | Spec: So im looking for a site similar to http://www.ircindexer.net/ that the bot will manage. I'd like to use it for my InspIRCd network. |
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| 20:31.40 | AlphaTech | got anything? |
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| 20:32.03 | Spec | AlphaTech: nope, thought you were talking about channel logs ;) |
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| 20:32.18 | patachu | got another issue tho |
| 20:32.41 | patachu | in software center, i have indeed more choices, let's say i want to install VLC. |
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| 20:33.20 | patachu | it tells me "failed to remove essential package - aptdaemon cannot be removed" |
| 20:33.22 | patachu | wat |
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| 20:34.05 | patachu | any solution? |
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| 20:34.36 | patachu | same for audacious with a different error |
| 20:34.39 | patachu | in fact |
| 20:34.47 | patachu | nothing will install with the LTS sources |
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| 20:37.55 | x86iac | to bad |
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| 20:41.00 | abrotman | x86iac: If you don't want to help, please just be quiet |
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| 20:42.02 | littlebit | hi people, is there someone who knows about setting up a dhcp-relay?? |
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| 20:43.10 | littlebit | I need some assistance with setting it up |
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| 20:46.28 | x86iac | abrotman you back to being a douchebag |
| 20:46.31 | x86iac | 'fuck you |
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| 20:47.23 | patachu | ragequit |
| 20:47.30 | patachu | well wish i could help |
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| 20:47.41 | patachu | i did that on windows server for a while |
| 20:47.48 | patachu | but on debian... |
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| 20:48.59 | littlebit | patachou: I have googled out some links but it leaves some questions open that makes me unshure of what I'am doing. I know how to setup a dhcp server which is totally ok |
| 20:50.19 | patachu | littlebit: what version ? debbie? |
| 20:50.44 | littlebit | 7.0 |
| 20:50.49 | patachu | you did an apt-get install dhcp3-server |
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| 20:51.49 | patachu | start>run>services.msc, and find th... ah |
| 20:52.00 | littlebit | the dhcp is installed, configured and running |
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| 20:52.07 | littlebit | lol XD |
| 20:52.24 | patachu | and you can't ping it with any machine or device ? |
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| 20:53.09 | patachu | well i guess there's a thing about your eth config |
| 20:53.23 | littlebit | patachu like what? |
| 20:53.53 | alphazulu | hi, recently after rebooting a server running wheezy both eth0 and lo failed to come up. any ideas why this might have occurred? |
| 20:53.59 | patachu | myself i have a strange thing on this machine i'll have to solve since i intend to use it as a fileserver. hmm |
| 20:55.01 | patachu | is everything ok on /etc/default/isc-dhcp-server? |
| 20:55.20 | littlebit | alphazulu: pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces also pastebin the result of "dmesg|grep eth0" |
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| 20:55.51 | littlebit | patachu: that is configured correctly |
| 20:56.01 | alphazulu | littlebit: dmesg says "Error reading PHY register" |
| 20:56.02 | patachu | well, then there's a bug. |
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| 20:56.29 | alphazulu | could that mean the card is going bad? |
| 20:56.37 | teraflops | patachu: please shut up a little ;) |
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| 20:56.47 | patachu | for you |
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| 20:56.57 | alphazulu | "e1000e 0000:00:19.0: eth0: Error reading PHY register" |
| 20:57.07 | littlebit | alphazulu: that chip have you built on your eth0? |
| 20:58.38 | alphazulu | littlebit: http://pastebin.com/2LBzxsuw |
| 20:59.03 | alphazulu | littlebit: yes eth0 is an e1000 card |
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| 21:00.14 | teraflops | alphazulu: did you update the kernel package? |
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| 21:00.51 | littlebit | maybe it is searching for a firmware from intel and is using the opensource variant? Could you do a dmesg|grep firmware and paste us the output? |
| 21:00.54 | alphazulu | teraflops: i regularly install all security updates on it, but nothing else. i don't remember if there was a recent security update for the kernel - actually i think there was a couple weeks ago |
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| 21:01.35 | teraflops | alphazulu: hmm, also tried to rmmod/modrprobe again by hand? |
| 21:02.04 | alphazulu | teraflops: when I initially set up the machine there was a question about creating an initrd with all modules or only ones for hw specific to machine. i picked the latter option. how can i go back and pick the first option? |
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| 21:03.29 | teraflops | alphazulu: i think it is not related with your issue |
| 21:03.35 | alphazulu | teraflops: this last time after the interfaces didn't come up i just used ifconfig on the command line to configure it, since "service network restart" was not working either |
| 21:03.54 | toro | Evening folks. I'm having a wierd issue with my nvidia driver at boot. If anyone could help that would be great :) At boot into X, I get an error has occured splash screen. After hitting enter I get black screen. But if I alt+ctrl+F2, log in and run startx X will start up fine with nvidia driver loaded. Anyone have a clue what's going on? |
| 21:03.56 | alphazulu | i also had to run "route add default..." |
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| 21:04.40 | toro | And, if there is a way to get hold of the log from first atempt? Where is that located? |
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| 21:05.21 | alphazulu | teraflops: after i initially installed debian i had this same issue. interfaces would not come up after booting. this also happened with a debian VM image I had set up on a hosted site once. i think they all had to do with that initrd question during setup. |
| 21:05.50 | mo1991reg | toro how did you install the nvidia driver. from the repo or from nvidia's site? |
| 21:06.22 | Brigo | tor0, the logs are in /var/log |
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| 21:07.14 | tor0 | mo1991reg, Hi, I installed from nvidia. The repo drivers doesn't work for me. May be my card is to new. (that what nvidia-detect says anyways). |
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| 21:07.22 | teraflops | alphazulu: what makes you think so? |
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| 21:08.13 | alphazulu | teraflops: someone here told me that running ifconfig from the command line will modprobe any needed modules, while the networking init script will not. |
| 21:08.36 | patachu | i'm just curious as mo1991reg on this one |
| 21:08.44 | patachu | i'd love to get my 9800GT to work |
| 21:08.55 | teraflops | alphazulu: that dose not have any sense for me |
| 21:09.09 | alphazulu | teraflops: sorry not modprobe, i mean install modules |
| 21:09.33 | teraflops | alphazulu: also I think the install question is about kernel modules not the initrd if I remember well |
| 21:09.35 | alphazulu | teraflops: i guess you're right because the interface wouldn't already be there if the module weren't loaded |
| 21:10.19 | teraflops | alphazulu: i see old bugs from 2012 googling a bit but I really do not know what it can be |
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| 21:10.21 | alphazulu | teraflops: at any rate, after next reboot i'll troubleshoot and see if in fact its a module-loading issue |
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| 21:11.26 | teraflops | alphazulu: just be sure what device you have and if it requires some firmware, also if there are some conflicting modules, apart from that i do not know what to say |
| 21:11.30 | T0ast_phone | Hello! |
| 21:11.40 | littlebit | hi |
| 21:12.01 | T0ast_phone | Do you know what Valve changed from Debby Debian in STEAMOS? |
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| 21:12.47 | patachu | half life 3 ? |
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| 21:13.06 | alphazulu | teraflops: also, why is lo not coming up? |
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| 21:13.19 | meaneye_ | Hi folks. |
| 21:13.23 | teraflops | alphazulu: yeah that is weird |
| 21:13.43 | meaneye_ | I have an issue setting IP address through /etc/network/interfaces when wireless-mode is Master |
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| 21:14.19 | meaneye_ | Basically card is set up properly, but no IP gets assigned. If I, however, do ifup wlan1 it will complain about setting mode, but it will assign IP address. |
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| 21:15.04 | meaneye_ | NetworkManager is configured to ignore this device, however am not entirely sure it listens to that. It doesn't manage it, but from syslog I can see it's trying to scan or do whatever. Perhaps that's the issue. |
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| 21:17.45 | Brigo | meaneye_, you can stop network-manager just for try. |
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| 21:19.58 | tor0 | could this be because nouveau and nvidia are both loaded at boot? |
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| 21:33.41 | t0r0 | Had no errors in xorg logfile either.. strange mess.. |
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| 21:35.49 | andril | hello |
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| 21:38.37 | doug891 | any of you people please can you answer a question for me |
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| 21:38.57 | doug891 | i am trying to copy two txt files from one directory for example called notes and placing it in another directory for example called backup_notes how would i do this and what command would i use |
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| 21:41.08 | doug891 | i am new to this and tried every command on google without success |
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| 21:41.31 | eldowan | doug891: search linux command line copy |
| 21:42.05 | doug891 | done that does not help |
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| 21:43.45 | doug891 | <eldowan> i tried man cp and tried google without success and cannot find a command that will copy successfully |
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| 21:44.44 | mtn | doug891: cp is the copy command and, yes, it does work |
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| 21:45.37 | NoImNotNineVolt | doug891: cp [source] [destination] |
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| 21:46.06 | mtn | doug891: at a guess, you aren't using the correct paths in the command |
| 21:46.08 | NoImNotNineVolt | e.g.: cp ./notes/*.txt ./backup_notes/ |
| 21:46.29 | doug891 | <mtn> i know it a copy command but it not copying a txt file from a directory called notes to a directory called backup_notes. |
| 21:46.46 | NoImNotNineVolt | are you getting an error message? |
| 21:46.54 | mtn | doug891: it will if you use it correctly |
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| 21:47.01 | trysten | i'm having a weird symptom from debootstrap. it downloads the first 10 or so packages, then fails to download the rest from the mirror |
| 21:47.07 | NoImNotNineVolt | has the patience of a saint and can even help people who can't use cp |
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| 21:47.34 | mtn | bows in the direction of NoImNotNineVolt |
| 21:47.41 | NoImNotNineVolt | i just spent 50 minutes arguing with a gnu person over the meaning of gratis. |
| 21:47.50 | trysten | Hahahahaha |
| 21:48.10 | NoImNotNineVolt | i pray they were trolling me. |
| 21:48.39 | trysten | NoImNotNineVolt: see me in #debian-offtopic |
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| 21:52.15 | t0r0 | Any nvidia guru's online? :) |
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| 21:53.43 | doug891 | <NoImNotNineVolt>thanks very much for that i being struggling with that from yesterday to answer .You have helped me before my test on linux thursday .thank you very much |
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| 21:56.58 | NoImNotNineVolt | look at me, all helpful and whatnot :) |
| 21:57.13 | NoImNotNineVolt | though i don't like helping with coursework! on principle! |
| 21:57.25 | NoImNotNineVolt | doug891: learn to use the man pages! |
| 21:57.26 | NoImNotNineVolt | man cp |
| 21:57.27 | mtn | NoImNotNineVolt: somebodies got to do it! |
| 21:57.30 | NoImNotNineVolt | cp --help |
| 21:57.45 | NoImNotNineVolt | doug891: learn to help yourself, it will be much more beneficial in the long run. |
| 21:59.39 | Klapo | guys what is wrong with this: brctl addbr br0 --> brctl addif br0 eth0:0 --> connection lost |
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| 22:18.21 | frostschutz | Klapo, nothing? |
| 22:19.12 | frostschutz | Klapo, when you add a device to a bridge, that device pretty much loses its configuration and the bridge takes over. if the bridge isn't configured ... |
| 22:19.24 | frostschutz | Klapo, also, technically eth0:0 is not a device, you should stop using it |
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| 22:19.47 | Klapo | frostschutz: I get it |
| 22:20.10 | Klapo | but hm.. still no idea how can I pass my public IPs to VM |
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| 22:21.04 | Klapo | frostschutz: any clue how should I start it? |
| 22:21.06 | frostschutz | Klapo, usually by routing. briding works only if you have a mac adress for each IP; although it depends on how your datacenter set up the networking |
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| 22:21.28 | Klapo | I have MAC address for each IP, ovh like datacenter |
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| 22:22.02 | Klapo | but still I don't know how my interfaces file should look |
| 22:22.27 | frostschutz | Klapo, don't they have a wiki or something with example configuration? |
| 22:23.03 | Klapo | they have, which tells users to set eth0:X and smile or something.. |
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| 22:23.54 | trea_ | Hello, looking to buy a wireless card - any suggestions for online used retailers? |
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| 22:24.58 | abrotman | trea_: which format? |
| 22:25.46 | trea_ | abrotman: I'm sure what format means, but it is for a Thinkpad T40, looking for Atheros, because it has free drivers.... |
| 22:26.01 | abrotman | trea_: PCI? PCMCIA? Mini-PCI? USB? |
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| 22:26.12 | abrotman | CardBus!? :) |
| 22:27.10 | Bremsstrahlung | So, I followed this guide to try and change my default browser to rekonq -- https://wiki.debian.org/WebBrowsers |
| 22:27.21 | trea_ | abrotman: PCI |
| 22:27.26 | Bremsstrahlung | However, I tried it out by clicking a link in HexChat, and it still opened another browser. o.0 |
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| 22:27.38 | abrotman | trea_: note, the Thinkpad T40 probably doesn't have a PCI slot? |
| 22:27.44 | Bremsstrahlung | Does "default browser" not mean what I think it means? |
| 22:27.52 | abrotman | Bremsstrahlung: there is more than one .. |
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| 22:28.44 | trea_ | abrotman: I think it should work. It did for this man http://captainchang.com/geek/linux-t40.html |
| 22:28.49 | Bremsstrahlung | abrotman: More than one what? |
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| 22:29.23 | Klapo | frostschutz: can you give me a hand to configure it somehow? I have ip and mac, and empty mind :C |
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| 22:35.16 | abrotman | Bremsstrahlung: www-browser, x-www-browser |
| 22:35.38 | abrotman | trea_: where does it say PCI? |
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| 22:35.48 | acz32 | this is a serious question. why do some people prefer no X server environment over using a tiling WM. doesn't it give you the best of both worlds and make things easiser? |
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| 22:36.00 | abrotman | acz32: My server doesn't need X |
| 22:36.08 | Klapo | XsuX |
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| 22:36.21 | acz32 | not on a server, but desktop use |
| 22:36.34 | trea_ | abrotman: https://wiki.debian.org/WiFi under PCI Devices : Intel PRO/Wireless 2100 |
| 22:36.35 | abrotman | acz32: just extra complexity |
| 22:36.52 | abrotman | trea_: PCI won't go in a laptop, PCMCIA and Mini-PCI will |
| 22:37.11 | abrotman | (not in all laptops, you'll have to check) |
| 22:37.22 | Bremsstrahlung | abrotman, I did try both.\ |
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| 22:37.36 | abrotman | Bremsstrahlung: what's your WM? |
| 22:37.38 | acz32 | isn't natural progression in computing harder -> easier. when the GUI was invented i don't think it was meant to add complexity |
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| 22:38.05 | abrotman | acz32: of course it does .. any new layer adds complexity and a place to fail in new nad interesting ways |
| 22:38.15 | trea_ | abrotman: Okay - so what is this man http://www.newt.com/debian/thinkpad-t40p/#wireless ("The ThinkPads I've used contain either an Atheros wireless chip, or the Intel IPW2100 chip.") refering to? |
| 22:38.22 | Shadow_7 | acz32: still lots of gear with low ram and every byte counts. No gui == more bytes, less used cpu cycles, less power used |
| 22:38.40 | Bremsstrahlung | abrotman, well, I am using the lxde desktop environment with LightDM, I dunno if that has the info you were looking for. |
| 22:38.47 | rww | and on servers, more code running = more security vulnerabilities |
| 22:39.12 | abrotman | Bremsstrahlung: run hexchat from a terminal with strace, see if you can tell where it's pulling it from |
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| 22:39.31 | abrotman | trea_: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/Category:T40 |
| 22:39.47 | abrotman | trea_: So you have a MiniPCI slot |
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| 22:40.27 | rww | Bremsstrahlung: Hexchat's FAQ page claims that gvfs-mime --set x-scheme-handler/http firefox.desktop (with the appropriate change for rekonq) may be useful |
| 22:40.28 | abrotman | trea_: on my old thinkpad, I had to remove the plastic bit above the keyboard to access that |
| 22:40.41 | trea_ | abrotman: Thanks. So there is an error on the Debian wifi site? |
| 22:40.55 | rww | Bremsstrahlung: if that doesn't work, http://hexchat.readthedocs.org/en/latest/settings.html#url-handlers |
| 22:41.12 | abrotman | trea_: No, not really .. it probably just expects you to understand this |
| 22:41.29 | trysten | i'm having a weird problem with debootstrap where it fails download packages after the first 12 or so |
| 22:41.38 | trea_ | abrotman: That is more likely :) |
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| 22:43.31 | trysten | i've specified different repos (http.debian.org and ftp.debian.org) and they do the exact same thing. download the first 12 or so packages and fail to download the rest |
| 22:43.49 | abrotman | trea_: http.debian.net is probably the one you want |
| 22:43.52 | Bremsstrahlung | abrotman, I'll give it a go later, seems promising. |
| 22:43.53 | Bremsstrahlung | rww, I see. |
| 22:43.57 | abrotman | trysten: ^^^ |
| 22:44.34 | abrotman | trea_: ignore that about http.debian.net |
| 22:44.48 | trea_ | abrotman: okay. |
| 22:44.59 | abrotman | trea_: but yeah, you probably want miniPCI or USB |
| 22:45.07 | abrotman | MiniPCI means taking the shell apart |
| 22:45.12 | umbra_purus | Hey I'm trying to install debian in a VM using Oracle VB. |
| 22:45.20 | umbra_purus | What type of software should i choose? |
| 22:45.21 | abrotman | (you'll have to read docs to figure out exactly what that entails) |
| 22:45.28 | trea_ | abrotman: Thanks! |
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| 22:46.35 | trysten | failed on the same package. they all download fine until libcwidget3 and they all seem to fail after that, abrotman |
| 22:46.43 | umbra_purus | what docs? |
| 22:46.48 | umbra_purus | What type of software should i choose? |
| 22:46.57 | umbra_purus | debian desktop environment? |
| 22:47.02 | umbra_purus | print server? |
| 22:47.07 | umbra_purus | standart system utilities? |
| 22:47.10 | rww | umbra_purus: That depends on what you want it to do once it's installed. |
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| 22:47.42 | rww | umbra_purus: Are you setting up a VM to use as a server? to run desktop GUI applications? something else...? |
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| 22:48.26 | trysten | abrotman: oops. the packages are not downloading, they are "validating." so it seems like none of them are downloading |
| 22:48.28 | umbra_purus | To run desktop GUI apps |
| 22:48.54 | umbra_purus | https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79be-ldnyPc |
| 22:48.57 | umbra_purus | sorry |
| 22:49.00 | umbra_purus | wrong channel |
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| 22:49.03 | umbra_purus | the link |
| 22:49.12 | umbra_purus | but what software should i install? |
| 22:49.13 | rww | umbra_purus: then install debian desktop environment and standard system utilities |
| 22:49.16 | rww | which i think is the default anyay |
| 22:49.33 | umbra_purus | no. default is print and standart system utilities |
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| 22:50.45 | daurnimator | Mar 03 20:02:56 ip-10-80-175-145 systemd-logind[323]: Failed to connect to system bus: No such file or directory; Mar 03 20:02:56 ip-10-80-175-145 systemd-logind[323]: Failed to fully start up daemon: No such file or directory |
| 22:51.01 | daurnimator | ^^ just booted a new debian box running systemd 215 |
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| 22:53.35 | cimbakahn | "overwrite files to hide contents" <------ Does it lay down ONES and ZEROS? |
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| 22:54.27 | umbra_purus | is normal to be so slowing installing debian in a vm? |
| 22:54.32 | mtn | daurnimator: which version of debian and how installed? |
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| 22:55.14 | daurnimator | mtn: jessie from an AMI on ec2. 20150213 https://wiki.debian.org/Cloud/AmazonEC2Image/Jessie |
| 22:55.21 | daurnimator | mtn: I have 215-12 |
| 22:56.22 | mtn | daurnimator: might have better luck installing stable and dist-upgrading to jessie. that is the recommended way to do it. |
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| 22:57.11 | gcosmin | hi, today I switch on my laptop and the keyboard does not work, so I can not login in gnome |
| 22:57.25 | daurnimator | mtn: according to release notes that's known to be broken |
| 22:57.32 | daurnimator | (since last week) |
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| 22:57.51 | mtn | daurnimator: what is broken? |
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| 22:58.11 | mtn | daurnimator: jessie can't have release notes |
| 22:59.01 | daurnimator | mtn: sorry, release blockers: #776910 |
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| 23:14.05 | umbra_purus | debian showed me a error message saying gnome didnt start properly? |
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| 23:14.08 | umbra_purus | Can someone help me? |
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| 23:35.15 | SpeakerToMeat | Hi. |
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| 23:35.54 | SpeakerToMeat | A) Anybody knows if there are plans to backport xfce 4.12 into Jessie? B) Would it be possible to "upgrade" (move) a sid to Jessie? |
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| 23:37.54 | dondelelcaro | SpeakerToMeat: you can, but generally, the way to do that is to just switch to using jessie, and near release, check to see if you need to manually downgrade any packages. |
| 23:38.04 | gcosmin | When my laptops starts and gnome starts the keyboard doesn't work anymore, can anyone help me pls? |
| 23:38.11 | dondelelcaro | SpeakerToMeat: as far as xfce, after release and once it's in testing, someone might backport it |
| 23:38.26 | dondelelcaro | SpeakerToMeat: if that's something you're interested in, I'd jump in and help the xfce team so that they're more likely to do it |
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| 23:39.07 | SpeakerToMeat | hmmm ok |
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| 23:40.33 | doublehp | some UTF8 chars are not printed proerly in my web browser; which package do i need to install ? |
| 23:42.09 | themill | doublehp: you probably just need to tell your browser to use a better font |
| 23:42.24 | doublehp | how ? |
| 23:43.16 | elnin0 | im kinda gpg noobish....so here is my question...i installed myself a debian 7.8 virtualbox to verify the gpg files of the debian 8.0 installer. the problem is....the cd signing public keys are not in the debian 7.8 default keyrings. first question...why? and my second question...can i install a package to get the debian cd signing keys via wheezy standard repos....to verify the debian 8.0 install gpg signed sha256 checksum files |
| 23:44.01 | themill | doublehp: that rather depends on what "my web browser" is. |
| 23:44.14 | elnin0 | reason behind it....i dont trust the single mirror for debian 8.0 installer |
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| 23:45.19 | themill | !check iso signature |
| 23:45.20 | dpkg | On a Debian box, you can check the installer images are legitimate using the signature file that comes with them. When downloading the ISO, also get the SHA256SUM and SHA256SUM.sign files in the same directory, then: "apt-get install -t sid debian-keyring; sha256sum debian.iso; grep debian.iso SHA256SUM; gpg --keyring /usr/share/keyrings/debian-role-keys --verify SHA256SUMS.sign". See also <check iso image>. |
| 23:45.44 | doublehp | themill: iceweasel |
| 23:45.47 | themill | elnin0: ^^ the public keys are on the key servers and the keys are in the debian-keyring package |
| 23:46.10 | themill | doublehp: are you really asking me how to EditâPreferences? |
| 23:46.57 | elnin0 | i installed the debian-keyring package....but still verify tells me "public key not found" .... or do i have to run a command after installing debian-keyring package? |
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| 23:47.36 | doublehp | themill: to me, fonts are set in xorg.conf ... since my desktop manager does not have any settings, edit>pref is not intuitive at all ... |
| 23:47.54 | themill | doublehp: no, the fonts that an application uses are not set in xorg.conf |
| 23:48.15 | themill | you're asking about iceweasel |
| 23:48.58 | elnin0 | ooohh i think i solved the problem....i have to add the keyring to gpg.conf manually |
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| 23:49.19 | doublehp | themill: in fact, i still really don't understand why you tell about edit>pref: if the font is installed on system, why doesn't the broswer use it byitself ? if it's not installed, how can an end user app install missing system package ? |
| 23:51.00 | themill | doublehp: umm... you could have thousands of fonts installed on your machine but your browser is configured to use one. You need to change that configuration if you want to use a different font. |
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| 23:52.02 | doublehp | themill: my system seems to have hundreds of fonts; how do i know which one will handle the funny chars ? |
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| 23:52.30 | themill | try it. The Bitstream and Dejavu family have pretty good coverage |
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| 23:52.52 | doublehp | themill: i could probably be able to grab the UTF code for a few broken chars; but how do I find which font will handle them ? |
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| 23:53.02 | themill | use a font browser |
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