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| 00:00.26 | doublehp | such a thing exists ? |
| 00:00.39 | doublehp | themill: would you consider OOo as a font browser ? |
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| 00:02.07 | Klapo | http://wklej.org/id/1654058/ guys is there something wrong? |
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| 00:04.40 | themill | doublehp: it would work ok. I'd use kfontview myself. There are several others around. |
| 00:04.40 | doublehp | Klapo: eth0 set to manual is not good if you are a beginner |
| 00:05.02 | doublehp | ah .... |
| 00:05.18 | Klapo | doublehp: I need setup bridge somehow |
| 00:05.32 | doublehp | Klapo: is it a fixed station at work, or a laptop at home ? |
| 00:05.39 | doublehp | Klapo: corporate VPN ? |
| 00:06.02 | Klapo | my own serwer |
| 00:06.11 | Klapo | I have 4 failover IPs and I need them inside VM |
| 00:06.32 | doublehp | Klapo: I am not going to help on VPN; but, this conf can not work alone without external other things. |
| 00:06.59 | doublehp | Klapo: VPN is a hell to setup, and I am not going to do it for you. Follow your tuto. Hope you kept backups of files. |
| 00:07.21 | doublehp | Klapo: home server on ADSL, or hosted in a company ? |
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| 00:08.16 | Klapo | doublehp: it's ovh dedicated server |
| 00:08.24 | Klapo | for... studies, nothing on it |
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| 00:08.58 | Klapo | Hmm, I have no idea how should I make it works then |
| 00:09.26 | doublehp | Klapo: why do you want VPN ? |
| 00:09.42 | Klapo | doublehp: I need separate IPs on VMs |
| 00:10.00 | Klapo | two vm, one for me, second for friend |
| 00:10.07 | bigterd | nat? |
| 00:10.39 | doublehp | Klapo: how does that relate to VPN ? |
| 00:10.55 | Klapo | I was saying something about vpn?:o |
| 00:11.07 | Klapo | sorry might say something wrong~ |
| 00:11.43 | doublehp | Klapo: is you link to OVH on ethj0 or vmbr0 ? |
| 00:11.48 | Klapo | I'm kinda sleepy, anyway... I have main server with own IP address. I don't care about it, inside there are two KVM VM, and I'm owning 4 IP failover IPS |
| 00:12.24 | bigterd | Klapo: i have 30 VM's running, each has their own IP's? some are bridged, some are nat, some are in their own network, some VM's have 4 network cards/IPs? if your issue is to have a public address, then why isn't portforwarding with nat an answer? |
| 00:12.59 | Klapo | bigterd: I'd like to have 2 interfaces inside each machine |
| 00:13.04 | Klapo | if.. this is possible. |
| 00:13.24 | doublehp | Klapo: man, you are not answering clearly my questions |
| 00:13.34 | bigterd | Klapo: i have 5 VM's, each has 4 IP's dpending on my reason? |
| 00:13.44 | bigterd | 20 differnt IP's with only 5 VM's |
| 00:13.51 | Klapo | doublehp: sorry, don't get your question. my eth interface is on eth0, nothing more was here. |
| 00:14.08 | doublehp | Klapo: seek for all lines ending with a question mark |
| 00:14.09 | Klapo | bigterd: good to know, I'm newbie :) |
| 00:14.17 | bigterd | Klapo: it's possible. |
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| 00:15.51 | Klapo | doublehp: you mean 'is you link to OVH on ethj0 or vmbr0' -- I was thinking that vmbr0 is virtual machine bridge 0, so thats it. |
| 00:16.21 | Klapo | bigterd: loot todo? |
| 00:16.53 | bigterd | loot? like money? |
| 00:16.53 | Klapo | time |
| 00:16.59 | bigterd | shrugs |
| 00:17.01 | Klapo | my english is preety bad :) |
| 00:17.45 | bigterd | i clicked the little box to add an interface. choose how/what host interface it's bound to. and click start. seconds? |
| 00:18.10 | Klapo | heh, some web interface? or better hosting company |
| 00:19.01 | bigterd | whereever youre running your vitural machine/enviroment/configuration/whatever-headache |
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| 00:19.58 | Klapo | bigterd: you say? so what about host config? |
| 00:20.18 | Klapo | how does it look like |
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| 00:21.49 | bigterd | hm. i think i jumped on a bad boat. |
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| 00:22.06 | Klapo | :~ |
| 00:22.17 | Klapo | I have to drink |
| 00:22.20 | Klapo | brb |
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| 00:36.17 | elnin0 | the public key to verify debian images is in the /usr/share/keyrings/debian-role-keys.gpg file which is not configured by default......what a pita....even for people willing to use this gpg system *grmpf* |
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| 00:53.52 | ryouma | sometimes i play youtube and it is too soft. i have volume on max. what can i do to boost this? |
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| 00:54.14 | ryouma | (youtube volume is on max, and system volumes are all on max) |
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| 00:55.08 | thepro4ever | heres a stupid question, is there anyway to recover several files I removed with 'rm' on my filesystem? |
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| 00:55.54 | trysten | how do i make mke2fs take up an entire partition? i have a 70 gig partition that's only 42mb when mmounted |
| 00:56.10 | trysten | mke2fs -j /dev/sdb1 is all i'm running |
| 00:56.47 | trysten | thepro4ever: yes. step one is to turn off the computer you deleted the files on. then you need to get some recoveery linux. i like sytemrescuecd |
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| 00:57.21 | thepro4ever | huh |
| 00:58.55 | nezZario | Hey odd question |
| 00:59.11 | nezZario | Is there a fsck for NTFS for Linux/Debian? |
| 00:59.20 | nezZario | Or chkdsk whatever terminology you want to call |
| 00:59.44 | nezZario | Eh, I'll just sha1 the partition and the file and make sure they're the same |
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| 01:03.51 | Ephexeve | Hey guys, a bit off, but what do you recomend: Acer C710 or Samsung XE303C12? |
| 01:05.02 | trysten | nezZario: yes there are similar utilities. also nfsfix |
| 01:05.10 | syco_ | ephem3r4xzp6374_ |
| 01:05.42 | mcmillhj | anyone played with the new Dell xps 13? Curious about it's linux support |
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| 01:08.22 | abrotman | Ephexeve: for what? |
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| 01:09.04 | Ephexeve | abrotman: mostly programming |
| 01:09.15 | Ephexeve | studying, general browsing and docs |
| 01:09.20 | abrotman | Ephexeve: I think that really requires a hands-on test of hte keyboard |
| 01:09.44 | Ephexeve | abrotman: yeah, unfortunatl where I live none of those exist :( |
| 01:10.03 | abrotman | Seems like a poor set of choices |
| 01:10.50 | Ephexeve | Yeah :/ |
| 01:11.10 | Ephexeve | It's a small city. To test those laptops I would need to fly to Rio de Janeiro :p |
| 01:12.07 | abrotman | then I think you're just looking at specs .. and maybe linux-laptop.net |
| 01:12.42 | Ephexeve | I didn't know about linux-laptop.net. Thanks buddy |
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| 01:18.00 | nezZario | ok |
| 01:18.03 | nezZario | Man that really sucked |
| 01:18.17 | nezZario | I had a raid1 config I just lost the mdadm config for |
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| 01:23.48 | trysten | nezZario: yeah. were they NTFS partitions? |
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| 01:28.50 | trysten | nezZario: at risk of sounding like a sandwich i reccomend systemrescueCD heavily. it's helped me so many times to fix windows/NTFS problems |
| 01:29.20 | trysten | s/sandwich/salesman/ |
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| 01:33.33 | nezZario | No that was separate |
| 01:33.50 | nezZario | I had setup a new mdadm partition and copied a disk image of a ntfs partition and I don't know if the dd completed |
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| 01:33.58 | nezZario | My breaker keeps throwing here b/c of heaters |
| 01:34.13 | nezZario | Now I just lost the mdadm config line |
| 01:34.35 | nezZario | I think I got it with mdadm --detail --scan |
| 01:34.56 | rjsalts | haveged? good or bad? It obviously fills up the entropy pool pretty quickly, but does it introduce bias, etc? |
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| 01:35.25 | bazhang | rjsalts, debian? |
| 01:35.41 | nezZario | Also I have another /really/ weird problem |
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| 01:35.55 | nezZario | Next Sunday is Daylight Savings time for me (and most of the US) |
| 01:36.01 | rjsalts | bazhang: it's a package in debian |
| 01:36.10 | luna900 | does anyone know how to set the time? |
| 01:36.13 | nezZario | Monday this computer started randomly going BACK an hour |
| 01:36.21 | abrotman | dpkg: tell luna900 about set the time |
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| 01:36.33 | nezZario | Next sunday we go forward an hour |
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| 01:37.57 | nezZario | Any ideas? I'm setting tzdata with dpkg-reconfigure tzdata |
| 01:38.20 | nezZario | My timezone is set to America/Indiana/Indianapolis |
| 01:38.22 | luna900 | omg nooo |
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| 01:38.35 | nezZario | Which should be normal eastern time |
| 01:38.37 | luna900 | how do you set the clock? i am using a net install |
| 01:38.50 | luna900 | openbox / tint2 / powerpc |
| 01:38.54 | nezZario | luna900: you can do ntpdate time.nist.gov for a quick one time set |
| 01:39.07 | nezZario | Not sure if that's "The Right Way" but it will work |
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| 01:39.25 | nezZario | luna900: out of curiousity is your clock randomly going back an hour? |
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| 01:39.47 | luna900 | no its going back to jan 1 1970 |
| 01:40.26 | luna900 | dead battery i think |
| 01:40.35 | luna900 | im using a powerbook g4 |
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| 01:41.19 | adrian | trying to install debian 7.8 on my laptop, but it says there is no ethernet -- any tips? |
| 01:41.43 | adrian | i'm at the screen where i pick the ethernet driver |
| 01:45.06 | syco_ | adan0s, lcspci | grep -i eth |
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| 01:46.03 | syco_ | ctrl+alt+f2 to get a console |
| 01:46.43 | ihsw | syco_: 01:00.0 Ethernet controller: Atheros Communications Inc. Device 10a0 (rev 10) |
| 01:47.36 | ihsw | syco_: that's for, uhm, ethernet. the wifi is Atheros Communications Inc. AR9565 Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01) |
| 01:47.36 | syco_ | ihsw, don't know about atheroes sorry |
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| 01:50.40 | syco_ | Ishaq, eth is wifi ? (i might be wrong) |
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| 01:57.31 | ihsw | syco_: one is wifi the other is cat5 |
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| 02:04.14 | hrusti | I am compiling phalcon php framework and when I run test I get this error |
| 02:04.20 | hrusti | PHP Warning: PHP Startup: Unable to load dynamic library '/root/cphalcon-master/build/64bits/modules/phalcon.so' - /root/cphalcon-master/build/64bits/modules/phalcon.so: undefined symbol: php_json_decode_ex in Unknown on line 0 |
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| 02:11.44 | Tenkawa | is there a native armhf installer for the raspberry pi 2 yet? |
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| 02:12.12 | Tenkawa | since its armv7 now |
| 02:12.27 | Tenkawa | (sid/unstable is fine too) |
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| 02:19.31 | alphazulu | hi, does anyone know which package to dpkg-reconfigure to get the question about whether to include all modules or only those specific to machine in initrd that is asked during setup? |
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| 02:29.32 | alphazulu | here's a screenshot of the question I'm thinking of: http://dev-random.net/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/install_debian_37.png |
| 02:30.13 | alphazulu | basically it says "Drivers to include in the initrd: *generic or *targeted are the two choices |
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| 02:30.59 | Tenkawa | alphazulu: what are you trying to do? |
| 02:31.15 | alphazulu | switch from targeted to generic |
| 02:31.27 | alphazulu | targeted has issues |
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| 02:35.10 | nell | I installed OpenCL on testing and I have a strange bug with Mesa |
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| 02:35.23 | nell | http://wiki.tiker.net/OpenCLHowTo#preview this is what I was working from |
| 02:35.28 | nell | when I try to print-devices I get this |
| 02:35.33 | alphazulu | ah i found it: initramfs-tools |
| 02:35.36 | nell | platform 1: vendor 'Mesa' |
| 02:35.39 | nell | *** 'clGetDeviceIDs' in 'cl-helper.c' on line 134 failed with error 'device not found'. |
| 02:35.57 | nell | device was not found |
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| 02:36.36 | alphazulu | ugh i guess not! "dpkg-reconfigure -plow initramfs-tools" does not ask the question! |
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| 02:39.46 | nell | should I delete mesa-opencl-icd |
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| 02:39.53 | aphorise | When installing from sid is there a way to supress all default messages? I do "apt-get -yqq" it it still gives me a message requiring scrolling / quit. |
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| 02:41.04 | abrotman | what type of messages? |
| 02:41.45 | aphorise | abrotman relating to changes for example? |
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| 02:42.37 | aphorise | Not related to configuration files rather just info / warning related to package. |
| 02:43.30 | abrotman | aphorise: remove apt-listbugs ? |
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| 02:46.15 | alphazulu | maybe we should make a factoid about initramfs-tools reconfiguration |
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| 02:46.54 | nell | is it safe to remove mesa-opencl-icd |
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| 02:49.55 | nell | yeah it is |
| 02:49.58 | nell | priority: optional |
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| 03:26.18 | thepro4ever | I am looking for a debian tomcat j2ee hosting solution for my website, do you guys have any ideas of companies that do this? |
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| 03:30.48 | abrotman | thepro4ever: any VPS hoster? |
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| 03:45.37 | hamn | how can i remote desktop to my debian machine? |
| 03:45.59 | dvs | tightvncserver? |
| 03:46.05 | hamn | i need the graphical display, not just SSH |
| 03:46.22 | qmr | VNC or ssh -X |
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| 03:50.21 | hamn | so i just ran the tightvncserver command how can i connect remotely? |
| 03:51.02 | tx | using a vnc viewer, no less! |
| 03:51.22 | hamn | it said connection refused |
| 03:51.27 | hamn | firewall? |
| 03:51.55 | tx | Perhaps, and are you sure it's running? |
| 03:52.36 | hamn | sure whats running? |
| 03:52.36 | tx | netstat --all --program | grep tightvncserver |
| 03:52.39 | tx | the vnc server |
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| 03:53.35 | tx | (or whatever the name of the daemon is called) |
| 03:54.00 | hamn | New 'X' desktop is linux:2 |
| 03:54.03 | hamn | thats what it said |
| 03:54.10 | hamn | but the netstat command didnt return anything |
| 03:54.27 | shay_shay | hai |
| 03:54.30 | roycroft | hi again folks |
| 03:54.40 | roycroft | i have my lvm issues sorted out, but now crypto filesystems are giving me grief |
| 03:54.51 | roycroft | i do this: |
| 03:55.02 | roycroft | cryptsetup -y -v luksFormat /dev/lsmb/lvswap |
| 03:55.10 | roycroft | it asks me for my passphrase, which i enter twice |
| 03:55.13 | roycroft | all looks good |
| 03:55.14 | roycroft | then: |
| 03:55.22 | roycroft | mkswap /dev/lsmb/lvswap |
| 03:55.23 | roycroft | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:55.39 | roycroft | swapon -s |
| 03:55.46 | roycroft | <PROTECTED> |
| 03:55.50 | roycroft | so that seems to work |
| 03:55.52 | roycroft | however, |
| 03:56.11 | roycroft | cryptsetup -v status /dev/mapper/lsmb-lvswap |
| 03:56.12 | roycroft | Command failed with code 22: Invalid argument |
| 03:56.30 | roycroft | cryptsetup -v status lsmb-lvswap |
| 03:56.31 | roycroft | Command failed with code 22: Invalid argument |
| 03:56.48 | roycroft | any ideas on that? |
| 03:57.40 | hamn | does vncserver start automatically on boot? |
| 03:57.50 | roycroft | it appears that the encryption is working, but i'm very uncomfortable not being able to check the status |
| 04:00.36 | hamn | any ideas about auto start vncserver? |
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| 04:07.32 | nezZario | Ok man I'm loosing my mind |
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| 04:08.50 | nezZario | http://paste.debian.net/159531/ |
| 04:09.03 | nezZario | For some reason /dev/md2 never 'works', it always ends up as md127 |
| 04:09.36 | nezZario | which means it isn't getting mounted.. i don't know what the deal is. It's in mdadm.conf, I ran dpkg-reconfigure mdadm (which ran update-initramfs) and even ran update-initramfs myself |
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| 04:10.03 | nezZario | When it boots, oddly I don't see it in dmesg, but very early in the boot it looks like it runs fsck on /dev/md1 but then says "special device /dev/md2 not found" ? |
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| 04:20.56 | buu | So... can anyone explain how to connect more than 4 disks to a single SAS port on a controller card? |
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| 05:01.53 | nezZario | Ok this is a mess |
| 05:02.03 | nezZario | I was asking about /dev/md127 earlier.. I found the issue |
| 05:02.33 | nezZario | I was running update-initramfs but the issue was.. I originally had this system sitting on a small solo disk (like 80GB) with one large / |
| 05:02.52 | nezZario | When I got these 2x1TB drives I partitioned it to have /boot, and / |
| 05:03.44 | nezZario | Ok, .. so /boot is /dev/md0 and / was /dev/md1 (and another 'backup' partition, md2, irrelevant). But the issue is I'm booting from /dev/md1 for some reason (which still happens to have it's old copy of /boot) |
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| 05:04.51 | nezZario | Where do I configure "Don't boot from md1"? I thought it would be automatic -- being md0 is /dev/sda1+/dev/sdb1 which is the 1st partition on both drives and an ext3 partition... but for whatever reason it's disregarding it |
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| 05:12.03 | shay_shay | hay |
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| 05:42.14 | curiousdude99 | Hello, I would like to ask about installing old version package in Debian |
| 05:42.50 | curiousdude99 | For research purpose, I am looking into installing openssl 1.0.1e-2+deb7u13 |
| 05:42.50 | curiousdude99 | which is vulnerable to Heartbleed |
| 05:43.00 | curiousdude99 | How do I install this specific version of openssl in my debian? |
| 05:43.01 | curiousdude99 | Thanks!! |
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| 06:01.58 | BuSheeZy | I run debian without a desktop on a pc I use to monitor my server. How can I make the font smaller or the resolution bigger. |
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| 06:22.58 | Schnabeltierchen | when i changed the uid/gid of an user without writing down his old one, any way to figure out the old one? |
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| 06:36.55 | doko | Schnabeltierchen: ls -l some file that he was known to own |
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| 06:39.14 | topi` | curiousdude99: just try to find a pkg archive which still has this version of the .deb and then download the .deb and install it with "dpkg -i my.deb" |
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| 06:39.28 | topi` | it will overwrite the version chosen by apt-get/aptitude |
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| 06:57.35 | jelly | nezZario: does your fstab point to md0 for /boot now? Also, did you "dpkg-reconfigure mdadm" and make sure md0 is brought up at initramfs time |
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| 07:43.55 | grg_ | is there a canonical way to take a pkgconfig name and find a deb package for it? apt-cache search is failing me in this regard. google does somewhat better, but becomes tedious quickly |
| 07:44.16 | grg_ | e.g. No package 'gstreamer-plugins-base-1.0' found |
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| 07:44.46 | grg_ | 'apt-cache search gstreamer-plugins-base-1.0' returns no results |
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| 07:45.37 | jelly | grg_: Look up package contents? hm, how did you figure out the pkgconfig name in the first place? |
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| 07:45.59 | grg_ | jelly, a configure script barfed it out |
| 07:46.51 | jelly | dpkg, tell grg_ about apt-file |
| 07:46.57 | jelly | also: |
| 07:47.04 | jelly | judd: file pkgconfig/gstreamer-plugins-base-1.0 |
| 07:47.07 | judd | No packages in wheezy/i386 were found with that file. |
| 07:47.19 | jelly | judd: file --release sid pkgconfig/gstreamer-plugins-base-1.0.pc |
| 07:47.20 | judd | (file <pattern> [--arch <i386>] [--release <stable>] [--regex | --exact]) -- Returns packages that include files matching <pattern> which, by default, is interpreted as a glob (see glob(7)). If --regex is given, the pattern is treated as a extended regex (see regex(7); note not PCRE!). If --exact is given, the exact filename is required. The current stable release and i386 are searched by default. |
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| 07:47.36 | jelly | judd: file pkgconfig/gstreamer-plugins-base-1.0.pc --release sid |
| 07:47.40 | judd | Search for pkgconfig/gstreamer-plugins-base-1.0.pc in sid/i386: libgstreamer-plugins-base1.0-dev: usr/lib/i386-linux-gnu/pkgconfig/gstreamer-plugins-base-1.0.pc |
| 07:47.55 | grg_ | hooray! |
| 07:48.09 | jelly | grg_: you can /msg judd in private for other stuff |
| 07:48.22 | grg_ | thanks, i'll try apt-file |
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| 07:55.50 | grg_ | well apt-file must be a bit retarded, following an 'apt-file upgrade', i get: Failed to connect to backup.parisc-linux.org port 1080: Connection refused |
| 07:56.04 | grg_ | why exactly is it trying to connect to a http server on port 1080? |
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| 07:56.49 | cccc828 | grg_: maybe it want full-hd bandwidth?;) |
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| 08:01.36 | jelly | grg_: "apt-file update"? Do you have http_proxy environment variable set, or backup.parisc-linux.org somewhere in sources.list? |
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| 08:02.42 | grg_ | jelly, no proxy. But my sources.list has: deb http://backup.parisc-linux.org/debian-hppa-archive sid main |
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| 08:04.13 | grg_ | oh, yeah. i meant apt-file update |
| 08:04.23 | grg_ | upgrade==update, right? :) |
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| 08:05.18 | grg_ | 'grep -r 1080 /etc/apt' shows nothing |
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| 08:07.40 | jelly | grg_: does eg. "HEAD http://backup.parisc-linux.org/debian-hppa-archive/dists/sid/main/Contents-hppa.gz" or "wget -S --spider ..." show a 200 http response or perhaps a 302 redirection to port 1080? |
| 08:07.59 | grg_ | jellly, oh yes, the file(s) exist |
| 08:08.26 | grg_ | I can download them and grep - it would probably only take a few lines of code to recreate a functional apt-file |
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| 08:12.30 | anti-unix | hi all |
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| 08:22.05 | shay_shay | >:( |
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| 08:48.17 | CoreSaint | here is a question, what is up with iceweasel that one can't get the html5 videos to play properly on it |
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| 08:49.08 | moumoutte | Hello everyone |
| 08:49.18 | moumoutte | I've got a problem until this morning |
| 08:49.30 | moumoutte | My second screen resolution is not reconized very well |
| 08:50.39 | moumoutte | Before this morning it was 1900x1080, and now it's just 1280x1024 |
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| 08:51.22 | shay_shay | your second screen? dual monitors then? |
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| 08:52.35 | moumoutte | shay_shay: yes |
| 08:53.25 | moumoutte | I'm on Debian Jessie, with intel CPU/GPU on e thinxpad x240 I'm on a dock station |
| 08:55.20 | moumoutte | okay Im' just plug and unplug hte HDMI cable, and guess what, it works now .... |
| 08:55.24 | moumoutte | OMG :/ |
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| 09:02.11 | tequir001 | Hello guys! Can you tell me what is the safest way to upgrade libc6 to >2.14 in wheezy? |
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| 09:17.27 | halcyforn | hello |
| 09:17.44 | halcyforn | can soemone tell me how in terminal i can detect wi-fi chipset |
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| 09:18.22 | humbag | i think iwlist |
| 09:18.39 | humbag | but i just got here :p |
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| 09:19.33 | JonJ` | halcyforn: You can use the command lspci to find out what kind of wireless card you have. |
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| 09:21.13 | halcyforn | thx |
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| 09:21.31 | halcyforn | now i know why i sometimes must 5 times restart laptop to get wifi |
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| 09:22.06 | halcyforn | bad driver or something what idk what is that |
| 09:22.46 | JonJ` | What kind of card do you have? |
| 09:22.56 | halcyforn | intel 5100 wi fi card and driver to this iwlwifi |
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| 09:25.17 | JonJ` | halcyforn: It looks like some versions of the iwlwifi driver has some issues with n-mode on the 5100 chips. Have you tried disabling it and see if that helps? |
| 09:25.36 | JonJ` | n-mode that is, not the driver itself |
| 09:25.57 | halcyforn | idk what is n-mode |
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| 09:28.28 | halcyforn | n mode this is on router yes? |
| 09:28.46 | JonJ` | It's both on routers and cards, it's a standard for wireless networks |
| 09:29.47 | littlebit | hi people, I have a debian pc without any gui and I wanted to add the solarized theme to it's terminal. can someone help? |
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| 09:30.11 | JonJ` | You can try to disable it and see if it helps with stability problems. You can do this by adding the line "options iwlwifi 11n_disable=1" in the file /etc/modprobe.d/iwlwifi.conf |
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| 09:32.44 | halcyforn | ok now work fast ipv6 disabled and changed network manger. |
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| 10:10.06 | armin | hi. when building a port on a freebsd box, i can do something like "make config-recursive install clean clean-depends" to simply get all the questions at the beginning of the process and not somewhen in the middle when chances are good i'm not watching the terminal anymore. it's quite useful. is there something for debian upgrades, too? |
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| 10:11.43 | littlebit | hi people, I have debian installed without any gui, and wanted to know how to change the colors of the terminal to the theme solarized. can someone help me with it? |
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| 10:12.10 | SynrGy | armin: the vast majority of questions are pre-answered anyway |
| 10:12.18 | SynrGy | armin: the debconf system implements that mechanism |
| 10:12.36 | SynrGy | armin: the problem comes when a conffile changes. the package manager cannot know in advance. |
| 10:12.48 | SynrGy | that's when you get prompted as to what to do with those ... |
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| 10:20.59 | SynrGy | armin: unattended installs are possible. it's just the results may not be what you wanted (i.e. instead of getting prompted, you tell it in advance what you want done with *all* such questions) |
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| 10:21.45 | SynrGy | you risk either a) losing old configurations (if you force 'y') or b) not applying important new configuration changes (if you force 'n') |
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| 10:24.47 | CissWit | littlebit: https://github.com/joepvd/tty-solarized |
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| 10:26.14 | babilen | armin: So: No, we are not aware of such a way. |
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| 10:30.16 | zafu | hi, is there a better pdf viewer than evince without any qt dependencies? |
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| 10:32.22 | littlebit | CissWit: so far so good, but what does he mean with " As this is only run on TTYs where usually a login shell is started, a the login file of your shell"? do I simply say in my .bashrc: sh tty-solarized-dark.sh or what? |
| 10:33.07 | CissWit | littlebit: try to google for the differences between login shell and non-login shell |
| 10:33.21 | littlebit | ok thx |
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| 10:34.05 | TBJoe | is 'dd' considered safe for backing up the whole system as an image file? I want my raspberry pi to backup itself into my windows shared folder |
| 10:34.20 | themill | zafu: a few people seem to like mupdf. (But I have to say that okular wins...) |
| 10:34.50 | themill | TBJoe: not from a running system |
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| 10:36.38 | TBJoe | themill: is there a way to do it regardless? |
| 10:37.24 | themill | Something like rsnapshot would be better |
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| 10:37.35 | TBJoe | okay, I'll google it |
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| 10:38.12 | themill | I don't know how you'd go getting that onto a windows host |
| 10:38.42 | TBJoe | why? |
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| 10:39.50 | SynrGy | there is a windows rsync server |
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| 10:40.06 | SynrGy | therefore, wouldn't rsnapshot just need to run on the rpi? |
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| 10:40.55 | themill | rsnapshot uses hardlinks so you'd need filesystem support -- can't see that working |
| 10:40.58 | SynrGy | oh, except for the issue of filesystem support for unix |
| 10:40.59 | SynrGy | yeah |
| 10:41.38 | TBJoe | hmm okay that could be a problem if NTFS is not supported |
| 10:42.09 | TBJoe | maybe any more ideas for the dd command? Could I stop the system for the time the system is backupping? |
| 10:42.33 | TBJoe | I'm running a server (reachable from the internet) but I guess some minutes downtime a day won't hurt too much |
| 10:42.52 | SynrGy | reboot the server from live medium, then run your dd |
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| 10:43.12 | SynrGy | pipe the results to gzip and to ssh to deposit on the windows host |
| 10:43.16 | themill | guess you might be able to do an lvm snapshot and back up the snapshot... |
| 10:44.42 | zafu | themill: thanks |
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| 10:45.13 | SynrGy | incidentally, what was your objection to evince? |
| 10:45.29 | SynrGy | if it was the heavy gnome dep chain, there's evince-gtk |
| 10:45.48 | SynrGy | (but missing some stuff, iirc, like remembering where you were last in a document) |
| 10:45.58 | zafu | SynrGy: its renderer is sometimes off, whereas okular is fine on the same doc |
| 10:46.01 | SynrGy | aha |
| 10:46.13 | SynrGy | ,v evince |
| 10:46.14 | judd | Package: evince on i386 -- squeeze: 2.30.3-2+squeeze1; squeeze-security: 2.30.3-2+squeeze1; wheezy: 3.4.0-3.1; jessie: 3.14.1-1; sid: 3.14.1-1 |
| 10:46.22 | SynrGy | and no backport available |
| 10:46.34 | zafu | for instance evince can't properly render an Easyjet boarding pass :) |
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| 10:47.07 | SynrGy | curious if that's just wheezy's evince that has that issue (i.e. maybe fixed in jessie?0 |
| 10:47.11 | SynrGy | s/0/)/ |
| 10:47.18 | zafu | I'm on sid |
| 10:47.31 | SynrGy | gotcha |
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| 10:48.40 | zafu | mupdf renders fine btw |
| 10:48.55 | zafu | it's the 'feh' of pdf viewers :) |
| 10:48.55 | SynrGy | nice |
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| 10:55.51 | hypn0sis | debian 7.8 amd64 on dell vostro 5560 |
| 10:55.52 | zafu | for fun mupdf rendering vs evince: http://titus.apartia.fr/stuff/mupdf.png http://titus.apartia.fr/stuff/evince.png |
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| 10:56.12 | hypn0sis | Wireless not work |
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| 10:56.27 | hypn0sis | :-( |
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| 10:56.49 | SynrGy | lspci -nn | grep -i network |
| 10:56.54 | SynrGy | maybe you just need firmware |
| 10:57.11 | hypn0sis | Thanks |
| 10:57.13 | SynrGy | we need to know the chipset (which we can determine from the command i gave above) |
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| 10:57.37 | themill | zafu: you don't really want to go to Orly, it's a bit of a dump ;) |
| 10:58.22 | zafu | orly is fine, been renovated recently |
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| 11:06.27 | jelly | ooh, pdf417 |
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| 11:20.50 | DarsVaeda | hi I changed my partitions and home has now a new number, I think I need to update a file where debian keeps the relations, which one is it again? |
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| 11:25.09 | mjt | DarsVaeda: /etc/fstab ? |
| 11:25.17 | DarsVaeda | ah right! |
| 11:25.25 | DarsVaeda | thanks :) |
| 11:25.30 | mjt | you can use UUID-based method |
| 11:25.34 | bezaban | what would be a 'correct' or good fs location for some custom data (pem formatted certificates) that should be checked by a cron job and available to multiple users? somewhere under /usr/local perhaps? /usr/sharE? |
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| 11:26.33 | DarsVaeda | mjt, it has uuid in it |
| 11:27.13 | bezaban | df -h |
| 11:27.16 | bezaban | oops. |
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| 11:29.45 | bezaban | /usr/local/share/cron-name seems like a promising destination |
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| 11:34.46 | sine0 | seeing as flashplayer is non-free, if you were setting up say 20 pcs for a small business running debian desktops and servers, why there be any leagel requirement to pay for it |
| 11:34.57 | sine0 | why > would |
| 11:35.11 | littlebit | did anyone setup a dhcp relay? |
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| 11:36.55 | themill | sine0: non-free is about your ability to get source code, improve, change etc. It's not about whether a company will give you the software at zero-cost. |
| 11:37.19 | themill | dpkg: tell sine0 about dfsg |
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| 11:37.47 | kale | what is the opposite of fileextension? |
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| 11:38.39 | mjt | heh |
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| 11:41.53 | RDash | Will Linux 4.0 hit debian jessie? |
| 11:42.55 | nkuttler | RDash: maybe in backports |
| 11:43.00 | bezaban | RDash: likely not, feature freeze end of last year, think it's 3.16 as basis |
| 11:43.10 | bezaban | yes, maybe in backports |
| 11:43.12 | RDash | outch |
| 11:43.23 | RDash | It is definitely worth it ;) |
| 11:43.24 | nkuttler | but even there, the versioning might break other packages.. |
| 11:43.35 | nkuttler | RDash: if you really need 4.x you can just build your own anyway |
| 11:43.41 | RDash | I know /o\ |
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| 11:44.04 | RDash | ill simply upgrade to the next testing which I forgot its name of :p |
| 11:44.15 | RDash | Since I really like the testing features \o/ |
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| 11:54.12 | jelly | RDash: there's nothing special about 4.0 in terms of revolutionary changes, it might have easily been called 3.20 just like 3.0 might have been 2.6.40 |
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| 11:54.25 | RDash | jelly, rebootless? :P |
| 11:54.46 | RDash | reboot once a year? @_@ |
| 11:54.58 | jelly | that's just another iteration of the feature that existed for years now. See ksplice. |
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| 11:55.12 | RDash | jelly, I know ksplice |
| 11:55.51 | RDash | I just refuse using that custom kernel module and run commercial software on my server ;p |
| 11:56.46 | RDash | and it is owned by oracle these days |
| 11:57.09 | RDash | which makes me refuse it even moar! |
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| 12:34.13 | khurram | hi guys |
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| 12:34.59 | khurram | can some one please help me how can i simply allow outside world to connect to certain node.js programs running on my server on various ports ? i recently configured iptables and |
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| 12:36.14 | khurram | only port 80 is allowed :( |
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| 12:46.07 | Walex | khurram: it is not that clean to me what you want to do. |
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| 12:58.43 | armin | SynrGy: 11:21 ⢠[ SynrGy] you risk either a) losing old configurations (if you force 'y') or b) not applying important new configuration changes (if you force 'n') |
| 12:58.49 | armin | SynrGy: i'd be fine with that. |
| 12:59.09 | armin | SynrGy: i'm also fine with apt renaming changed configuration files before using the new ones. |
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| 12:59.41 | armin | SynrGy: i keep my /etc in git anyways so i can easily track changes, so i'd even be fine with simply applying and using the new ones. |
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| 13:02.33 | SynrG | armin: look at dpkg man page for that option and find out how apt our aptitude passes those options from their mean pages. I know there is such an option but don't have it at my fingertips, being on my cell now. |
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| 13:02.51 | SynrG | apt or* aptitude |
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| 13:03.03 | SynrG | man* pages |
| 13:03.21 | SynrG | Sigh. Prediction fail. |
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| 13:08.10 | likecolacola | Hey... i got a corrupted usb stick, when i plug it in fdisk -l output /dev/sdb1, /dev/sdb1p1 |
| 13:08.14 | likecolacola | i want to format it |
| 13:08.22 | likecolacola | halp plx? :p |
| 13:09.04 | likecolacola | when i open gparted it says "invalid partition table - recursive partition on /dev/sdb", [cancel][ignore] |
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| 13:10.12 | SynrG | dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb count=1 |
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| 13:10.47 | SynrG | Will walk on boot sector and partition table |
| 13:10.50 | ntz | hello |
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| 13:11.35 | SynrG | Then create new partition table and/or filesystem(s) on it |
| 13:11.36 | ntz | can anybody tell me where is in debian logrotate status file ? ofc debian documentation is completely incorrect |
| 13:11.36 | likecolacola | SynrG, thanks!! |
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| 13:12.47 | SynrG | likecolacola: sounds like the key formerly contain a hybrid iso image. This is normal |
| 13:13.00 | SynrG | Contained* |
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| 13:14.07 | abrotman | ntz: status file of what? |
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| 13:15.07 | ntz | okay, I have to tell it again .. logrotate maintainer is complete idiot who should NOT maintain anything ... I've reported several bugs (no response at all), I've found several more issues caused by impalpable laziness and incopetence of logrotate maintainer |
| 13:15.11 | likecolacola | SynrG, yes, that's exactly what it contains... i tried to create a bootable OS and the process failed |
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| 13:15.22 | ntz | abrotman: sorry for my frustration vomitting ... all solved |
| 13:15.25 | ntz | I did it for myself |
| 13:15.40 | likecolacola | do you know how long should it take?, the iso wasn't big.. like 6 gb but the usb is 64gb and i have a deathline.. |
| 13:15.53 | maasha | I could use some help in compiling numpy on my debian box. I really need to do it the manual way -> no packages, no pip: I get a linker error: https://gist.github.com/maasha/63ca61d5a24c28226025 |
| 13:16.12 | likecolacola | so i did dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb and it's there "stuck" thinking |
| 13:16.16 | likecolacola | or processing xd |
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| 13:17.18 | SynrG | ntz: man page on jessie looks correct to me in any case |
| 13:17.57 | SynrG | likecolacola: you forgot count=1 ? |
| 13:18.03 | abrotman | ntz: okay then |
| 13:18.30 | likecolacola | SynrG, omg, yes.. |
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| 13:18.49 | SynrG | So it will zero the whole stick now |
| 13:18.54 | SynrG | Takes a while |
| 13:19.12 | SynrG | You can try to ctrl-c or just wait |
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| 13:22.29 | likecolacola | SynrG, thanks a lot, with the count=1 it took like 20 seconds... |
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| 13:23.12 | SynrG | Well, it may have still been flushing your aborted prior attempt |
| 13:23.30 | SynrG | It should be nearly instantaneous |
| 13:23.50 | likecolacola | that's what i meant.. nearly instantaneous.. not really 20 seconds but instantaneous :p |
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| 13:23.58 | SynrG | In any case the retry was redundant |
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| 13:24.08 | ntz | SynrG: the manpage is 1:1 copy from elX claiming EL defaults, not debian defaults |
| 13:24.25 | SynrG | Wheezy? |
| 13:24.34 | ntz | logroate maintainer is criminal not responding bugreports, emails, anything |
| 13:24.35 | SynrG | What's elX? |
| 13:24.44 | ntz | SynrG: el6 |
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| 13:24.50 | ntz | at least the one I have here |
| 13:24.56 | SynrG | No idea. Cryptic |
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| 13:25.17 | ntz | SynrG: sorry .. EL == Enterprise Linux == RHEL/CENTOS/OL |
| 13:25.50 | SynrG | Don't assume much knowledge here outside of Debian ;) |
| 13:25.51 | ntz | el5 == rhel 5, el6 == rhel 6, and so on |
| 13:26.10 | SynrG | Yeah. If have understood rhel6 |
| 13:26.23 | SynrG | I'd* have |
| 13:26.30 | ntz | SynrG: why, I'm sysadmin and I can deal (and have to deal) with many debians as well however my personal preference is to avoid debian and use el |
| 13:26.49 | ntz | I'd assume that others are on the same boat (perhaps with swapped preferences) |
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| 13:26.56 | SynrG | Understand that wheezy is stable |
| 13:27.08 | He4dShOt | hey guys |
| 13:27.09 | maasha | kicks numpy |
| 13:27.19 | SynrG | Man page fixes go to testing/unstable |
| 13:27.24 | SynrG | Not stable |
| 13:27.29 | He4dShOt | how can I see the full date in "ps aux"? It says only "2014" |
| 13:27.35 | SynrG | And it's fixed now, so ... |
| 13:27.50 | ntz | ok, anyhow, doesn't matter .... I resolved what I needed .. thanks for will to help and apologize for my frustration vomitting (being offense to debian) |
| 13:28.18 | SynrG | np. I just wanted to see if indeed we do have a bug |
| 13:28.34 | SynrG | Appears we don't anymore. Fixed in next release i mean |
| 13:28.45 | ntz | yes, you have for example 1:1 el?6 copy of logrotate manpage but you have different details |
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| 13:29.19 | ntz | ^^ it's little semi bug, but could be very frustrating if you expect that other ppl (debian maintainers) try as hard as you (me packing for our company., suse, etc) |
| 13:29.35 | ntz | s/debian maintainers/logrotate maintainers/ |
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| 13:29.39 | SynrG | If you've seen the latest sid man page and still find errors and there is no bug filed, please file one |
| 13:29.48 | ntz | yes, I'll do it |
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| 13:29.55 | SynrG | Better yet, add a patch |
| 13:30.13 | SynrG | Thanks |
| 13:30.30 | SynrG | This way we keep improving :) |
| 13:30.32 | ntz | SynrG: is sid 7.0.8 (or 7.8) ? |
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| 13:30.39 | SynrG | No |
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| 13:30.51 | ntz | SynrG: 7.8 says debian_version here |
| 13:30.54 | SynrG | Sid is unstable |
| 13:30.56 | ntz | oh |
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| 13:31.19 | SynrG | ,v logrotate |
| 13:31.20 | judd | Package: logrotate on i386 -- squeeze: 3.7.8-6; wheezy: 3.8.1-4; sid: 3.8.7-1+b1; jessie: 3.8.7-1+b1 |
| 13:31.42 | SynrG | Which matches what is in jessie aka testing |
| 13:32.01 | SynrG | And therefore reflects what is already fixed in the next release. |
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| 13:32.21 | SynrG | If it's fixed, no new bug needs to be filed |
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| 13:44.15 | SynrG | ntz: confirmed big still present in current release. The -s option correctly documents the location in debian. The FILES section, however, does not. |
| 13:44.48 | SynrG | ntz: so filing a bug would be appreciated. Severity |
| 13:44.55 | SynrG | minor |
| 13:45.32 | SynrG | Bug* still |
| 13:45.57 | ntz | thanks |
| 13:46.00 | SynrG | Bleh. Cellphone typing is such a pain. |
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| 13:48.44 | Shadow_7 | Is byacc providing bin/yacc a bug when apt-file doesn't find bin/yacc ? |
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| 13:51.02 | SynrG | Shadow_7: no |
| 13:51.09 | SynrG | It's an alternative |
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| 13:54.24 | SynrG | Shadow_7: i.e. the package doesn't provide any such file directly in the files list so of course apt-file doesn't index it |
| 13:55.00 | SynrG | It uses Contents add input and can't know about script created things |
| 13:55.07 | SynrG | As* input |
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| 13:55.53 | SynrG | The real binary is probably bison.yacc |
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| 13:56.27 | Shadow_7 | I guess the same condition would apply for usr/bin/java |
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| 13:57.11 | SynrG | Probably. I didn't check |
| 13:57.27 | charger | Hi, I am running debian wheezy, and just set up a small irc network for myself and a few close friends. During the installation of neostats, I get this error.. |
| 13:57.36 | SynrG | I think apt-file has an option to do regex |
| 13:57.57 | SynrG | But don't remember offhand. See man page |
| 13:58.31 | charger | It says i need this package, but the os says different, im a tad confused |
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| 13:58.42 | charger | libperl-dev is already the newest version. |
| 13:58.42 | charger | 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. |
| 13:58.55 | charger | it says i need libperl-dev |
| 13:59.06 | charger | but os says i have the latest version |
| 13:59.09 | charger | :x |
| 13:59.50 | SynrG | During installation of meaning exactly what command? |
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| 14:00.21 | SynrG | And full output. Use paste.debian.net please. |
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| 14:00.34 | charger | I get a link error: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lperl during the make step |
| 14:00.39 | charger | o crap sorry |
| 14:00.48 | charger | that is the only error i get |
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| 14:01.13 | charger | moment i will try and remake |
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| 14:01.18 | charger | and put on pastebin |
| 14:01.27 | charger | sorry for noob mistake |
| 14:01.29 | charger | :/ |
| 14:01.39 | Shadow_7 | charger: is pkg-config installed? |
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| 14:02.53 | Shadow_7 | charger: building from sources generally assumes that build-essential and devscripts and maybe more is installed. |
| 14:03.05 | charger | It happens on ./configure of neostats |
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| 14:03.54 | charger | this dedi is over a year old, build-essential was the first thing i did |
| 14:05.15 | charger | hmm |
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| 14:05.26 | charger | i just hit send on the pastebing |
| 14:05.42 | charger | i must have done it wrong, it vanished |
| 14:06.38 | charger | http://paste.debian.net/159601/ |
| 14:06.41 | charger | there we go |
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| 14:06.54 | charger | sorry, it has been an all nighter at work |
| 14:07.06 | charger | if im a little dense, im just very tired |
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| 14:08.38 | Pulec | can I expect grep command to by in most unix systems? |
| 14:08.46 | Pulec | *to be |
| 14:09.06 | verri | Pulec: busybox has it, gnu has it |
| 14:09.15 | verri | that's about all you need I guess? |
| 14:09.25 | verri | oh, and bsd too |
| 14:10.03 | charger | creation of the sym link fails as well |
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| 14:10.36 | charger | if there is a url i am willing to learn it, i dont expect you guys to do it for me |
| 14:10.38 | charger | :) |
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| 14:10.50 | Shadow_7 | charger: depending on the age of things... make LIBS=" -llibperl " |
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| 14:11.25 | Night_Elf | charger: I did a "locate libperl.so" in my box, and I got "/usr/lib/libperl.so.5.14". Can there be a libperl missmatch, as your post indicates 5.6.1 ? |
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| 14:12.22 | Shadow_7 | charger: or I guess ./configure --prefix=/usr LIBS=" -llibperl " |
| 14:12.23 | verri | charger: you've tried rerunning ldconfig? (I'm just guessing here) |
| 14:12.31 | charger | Night_Elf Im no where near as good as you guys, Ive only been using debian 7 and this dedi about a year |
| 14:12.40 | charger | inshort I do not know |
| 14:12.42 | charger | :/ |
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| 14:12.58 | charger | yes sir |
| 14:13.06 | charger | I tried re running ldconfig |
| 14:13.26 | charger | I will try once more, maybe that pastbin will help |
| 14:13.28 | verri | and if found libperl like it should? |
| 14:13.37 | verri | if so, I'm clueless as well |
| 14:13.43 | Shadow_7 | charger: if the sources have a ./debian/ folder with rules and other things under it, that might help |
| 14:13.53 | charger | Yep, it says "you have the newest libperl" |
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| 14:14.08 | charger | okie momento |
| 14:14.44 | Pulec | verri, thx |
| 14:15.12 | Pulec | I have a task from job interview to write some simple script in Bash that gives cpu, mem and disk info |
| 14:15.33 | Pulec | other tasks are bit more interesting considering unix managment |
| 14:15.40 | Shadow_7 | I've had source quirks. On jessie at least because libs were such were an extra layer deep. as in /usr/lib/x86_64-gnu-linux/libperl.so or similar things. |
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| 14:16.34 | verri | Pulec: how would you give cpu info if /proc/cpuinfo isn't available? |
| 14:16.42 | Shadow_7 | Pulec: so ... cat /proc/cpuinfo && free && cat /proc/partitions ... pretty non-specific request imo ... at least they asked it as a question. |
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| 14:17.14 | verri | Shadow_7: but isn't /proc/ rather linux-specific? |
| 14:17.14 | Shadow_7 | verri: cpufreq-info and other things depending on the system |
| 14:17.15 | Pulec | is it possible that /proc/cpuinfo could not exist? in which situations? |
| 14:17.37 | tx | when you delete it |
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| 14:17.48 | Shadow_7 | Pulec: depending on the kernel config you can disable /proc iirc. |
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| 14:18.01 | Pulec | hm, better have some fallback then |
| 14:18.05 | Pulec | I can use Perl too |
| 14:18.09 | verri | but I thought he wanted a general script, not something that only works on linux |
| 14:18.10 | Pulec | and PowerShell.... |
| 14:18.13 | charger | http://paste.debian.net/159602/ |
| 14:18.21 | Night_Elf | Pulec: See to play with commads which you grep interesting elements, for example: top -b -n 1 | grep -A 2 Cpu |
| 14:18.23 | Shadow_7 | Pulec: and the linux and bsd ways can differ. Although your info can be shown in top or htop. |
| 14:18.30 | Pulec | yeah something general in Bash, launchable on as much computers as possible |
| 14:18.33 | charger | ok that is the whole chabang, i cant catch it during ./configure |
| 14:18.44 | tx | oh, you can't |
| 14:18.45 | tx | guess not then |
| 14:18.56 | charger | it is to fast |
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| 14:19.15 | verri | charger: catch faster? |
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| 14:19.33 | Pulec | thx for tips, I probably just do cat /proc/cpuinfo and /proc/meminfo and grep it somehow nicely and then use df -h for disk maybe |
| 14:19.35 | Shadow_7 | charger: you could 2>&1 | tee i_am_old-ish_logfile.txt |
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| 14:20.12 | charger | Ok well thanks for trying. Id rather read the whole docu, then be flamed, i Have been very respectful. |
| 14:20.19 | charger | Have a good day all. |
| 14:20.23 | charger | :) |
| 14:20.29 | tx | O_o |
| 14:20.33 | Kyoshiro | hi, I'm using ucarp on stable, I wanted to setup its usage through /etc/network/interface with magic keywords ucarp-*. It works well but is there an init script somewhere to manually stop / start / status the ucarp service ? |
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| 14:20.37 | verri | charger: oh, c'mon, it was just a joke :) |
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| 14:24.52 | zh1 | how can i test on debian dns problems i might have? |
| 14:25.24 | tx | dig |
| 14:25.30 | tx | nslookup |
| 14:25.41 | tx | checking your hosts / resolv files. |
| 14:25.44 | tx | etc. |
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| 14:27.07 | Shadow_7 | I tend to use ping |
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| 14:27.23 | Shadow_7 | or whois |
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| 14:27.47 | Stummi | whois has nothing to do with DNS |
| 14:27.53 | RoyK | Stummi++ |
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| 14:28.21 | Shadow_7 | but it can give you more "names" versus "ips" to ping |
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| 14:30.05 | tx | :\ |
| 14:30.14 | tx | Shadow_7: What are you having issues with? |
| 14:31.12 | tx | Shadow_7: ping and whois records are not the really the right tools for the job |
| 14:31.13 | Shadow_7 | nothing atm. aside from the usuals. usb-storage not showing 2nd drives on the same usb bus and such. when the 2nd drive is the same make/model of the 1st drive |
| 14:31.35 | tx | although if a name is specified when pinging as opposed to an IP then I suppose it will tell you whether it can be resolved. |
| 14:32.12 | tx | are not really* |
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| 14:33.41 | Shadow_7 | probably not, but ping is likely the most used tool for average folks. |
| 14:34.01 | tx | Can't argue with that. |
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| 14:34.22 | Shadow_7 | even though firewalls likely prevent a response from being given on many sites. |
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| 14:35.52 | tx | sites? |
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| 14:36.47 | Eduard_Munteanu | Hi. I'd like to start an X session without a DM from systemd. Is it possible without "dpkg-reconfigure x11-common"? I tried setting StandardInput=tty-force et al. but it still complains the user isn't authorized. |
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| 14:38.02 | Shadow_7 | Eduard_Munteanu: depends on the desktop environment in use. If you don't have a DM installed it's the default. |
| 14:38.40 | Eduard_Munteanu | Shadow_7, no DM, I'm attempting to launch xinit with some arguments from a systemd service |
| 14:38.53 | Eduard_Munteanu | If I set User=someuser, it doesn't work, but it works as root. |
| 14:39.23 | Shadow_7 | Eduard_Munteanu: so you're looking at the auto login type setup? |
| 14:39.49 | Eduard_Munteanu | Shadow_7, something like that, it's a service meant to start a video player in an X session automatically on boot |
| 14:40.03 | Eduard_Munteanu | (and I created a system account for this) |
| 14:40.22 | Shadow_7 | Eduard_Munteanu: so like a kiosk jukebox? |
| 14:40.29 | Eduard_Munteanu | Shadow_7, yes |
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| 14:40.39 | Eduard_Munteanu | (totally non-interactive) |
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| 14:41.07 | Shadow_7 | Eduard_Munteanu: so what happens when the jukebox is out of songs / videos? |
| 14:41.31 | Eduard_Munteanu | Shadow_7, it won't be, it plays predefined playlists in a loop |
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| 14:47.35 | zh1 | tx how many dns resolver adresses can i have in etc hosts? |
| 14:48.07 | zh1 | can i have like opendns and ultradns both same time? |
| 14:48.08 | tx | you put those in /etc/resolv.conf |
| 14:48.12 | tx | yes |
| 14:48.17 | zh1 | and more? |
| 14:48.38 | tx | yes |
| 14:49.05 | tx | They are tried in the order that you put them, with the one a the top of the file used first |
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| 14:49.27 | zh1 | but is it not ideal to have just two? |
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| 14:49.42 | jelly | zh1: the real question is which are going to be used, and how long you might be waiting for a response |
| 14:49.56 | tx | Sure, it would be ideal to have >1. |
| 14:49.56 | zh1 | ok |
| 14:50.45 | zh1 | because debian always run fine but lately been having pages not resolving dns i guess this is because more of ISP auto dns router setup |
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| 14:51.02 | jelly | zh1: also read about options rotate, timeout and attempts in man resolv.conf |
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| 14:52.27 | zh1 | tx jelly i more or less knew already those commands and places but im not so good is at troubleshooting, but yes im gonna give a more deep read |
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| 14:53.05 | tx | zh1: you can use 'dig' to resolve names from specific nameservers |
| 14:53.21 | tx | For example, to resolve google.com using 8.8.8 'dig google.com @8.8.8.8' |
| 14:53.33 | tx | 8.8.8.8* |
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| 14:53.38 | zh1 | tx im gonna try all that now yes |
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| 14:54.21 | tx | Don't be too shy from wireshark too. |
| 14:54.30 | zh1 | tx but i have a doubt too, if my fiber optic router forces inside any dns will that conflict on debian? |
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| 15:26.52 | jelly | !qotd0 |
| 15:26.53 | dpkg | <kbrooks> i believe /var gets rm -rf'd at every boot |
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| 15:27.33 | tx | !qotd |
| 15:27.34 | dpkg | Quote of the Day. Ask me about <qotd0> to get a random one. See <literal qotd0> for which numbers are used already and <qotdx> for which numbers have been voted as "replaceable". At 289 (2014-12-08). |
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| 15:31.31 | DexterF | hi |
| 15:32.42 | DexterF | each time a kernel upgrade comes in, it replaces the current kernel. I'd like to keep the last two or three kernels around, but the version is always 3.2.0. (why, anyway?) can one tell debian to keep them? |
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| 15:36.07 | mjt | DexterF: this is not supported because it is just a new revision of the same kernel version with the same files |
| 15:37.15 | DexterF | mjt: how do you mean "same files"? |
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| 15:37.28 | jelly | DexterF: no, not easily. Ubuntu works around this by always bumping the ABI version |
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| 15:37.36 | hest | hello. |
| 15:38.35 | hest | can anyone recommend a good command line rss/atom reader that converts the feed items to maildir format? i know about evolution-rss, but it's a bit heavy and doesn't work well with proxies. |
| 15:38.39 | jelly | so they get to have 3.2.0-156-amd64 and dozens of potentially a dozen kernels lingering, but at least they don't overwrite your known-safe kernel |
| 15:38.42 | mjt | the same paths. All kernel packages contains the same /boot/vmlinuz-3.2-something and the same /lib/modules/3.2-something |
| 15:39.01 | hest | (and that works well on/is packaged for debian) |
| 15:40.11 | jelly | DexterF: I suggest keeping one alternative kernel hanging around, perhaps the one from wheezy-backports, or one from the previous release (squeeze-lts) |
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| 15:40.48 | mjt | wheezy-backports one is going to sort before wheezy kernel in grub |
| 15:41.05 | mjt | so it will most likely be the one which's booted |
| 15:41.42 | jelly | nod. I also bump grub's "default" to second kernel |
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| 15:42.06 | DexterF | jelly: yes, that sounds good. "back then" when I compiled the kernel myself I always had the x.y.z number pattern and had /lib/modules-x.y.z/ I think... but that is quite some time ago, maybe there was a trick to it or slackware symlinked the modules folder on the fly at boot time or so. |
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| 16:05.27 | Pulec | would you consider this being a good start for scripts with many arguments http://stackoverflow.com/questions/7069682/how-to-get-arguments-with-flags-in-bash-script? |
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| 16:10.48 | mprelude_ | Hi, have a Macbook Air, looking for a USB ethernet adapter which I can do a Debian install on. Can anyone help me identify a USB ethernet adapter that just works with the drivers available to the installer CD? |
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| 16:11.32 | jelly | mprelude: you might try the unofficial images with firmware and use wireless |
| 16:11.53 | jelly | !tell mprelude about firmware images |
| 16:12.45 | mprelude | Thanks jelly, will give it a try |
| 16:13.27 | flos | !tell flos about firmware images |
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| 16:16.48 | shay_shay | mprelude: you dont have a ethernet adapter yet? or you were looking for a different one because your current one didnt work on the regular installer? |
| 16:17.01 | mprelude | shay_shay: Looking for a new one |
| 16:17.09 | mprelude | The Macbook Air doesnt have an ethernet adapter |
| 16:17.22 | shay_shay | if you dont have one yet then Pluggable USB3.0 works out of the box |
| 16:17.30 | shay_shay | and it uses intel nic |
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| 16:19.04 | shay_shay | "Pluggable" is the brand, theyre on amazon prime |
| 16:20.09 | mprelude | http://www.amazon.co.uk/Plugable-Gigabit-Ethernet-Chromebook-Specific/dp/B003VSTDFG/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1425485991&sr=8-1&keywords=pluggable+usb+ethernet That? |
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| 16:22.00 | shay_shay | sorry but I am unable to follow links that long |
| 16:22.18 | xTEMPLARx | that Plugable device looks exactly like the StarTech one I have for my work PC. Startech p/n: USB21000S |
| 16:22.31 | mprelude | http://amzn.to/1M7dj92 shay_shay |
| 16:22.36 | shay_shay | oh i got it |
| 16:22.44 | shay_shay | no thats the usb 2.0 version |
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| 16:22.59 | xTEMPLARx | http://bit.ly/1AIUQqS is also a usb 2.0 |
| 16:23.22 | shay_shay | but if you want usb 2.0 then i cant comment |
| 16:23.28 | xTEMPLARx | http://bit.ly/1AIV4Ot is a usb 3.0 version |
| 16:23.36 | mprelude | http://amzn.to/1zJDqKr ? |
| 16:23.43 | xTEMPLARx | i have used the 2.0, but not the 3.0 |
| 16:23.48 | xTEMPLARx | 2.0 works well for what it is |
| 16:24.37 | shay_shay | the startech one has a 3.0 port on it so you dont lose any ports by using it |
| 16:25.22 | shay_shay | i also have a notebook without an ethernet and my work is wifi free, boss is a tin hatter |
| 16:25.32 | mprelude | I have a 10 port USB3 hub anyway |
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| 16:25.43 | dokoo | I thought the MacBookAir has USB 2.0 which means that any USB3 connected will still go to USB2 speed |
| 16:25.44 | shay_shay | so its important to me my adaptwr perform |
| 16:25.44 | mprelude | I only plan to use this once for setup, I can get wifi working once I'm in :P |
| 16:25.50 | mprelude | MBA has USB3 |
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| 16:26.03 | dokoo | ok thanks mprelude |
| 16:26.10 | xTEMPLARx | shay_shay: i saw that side port. That is a nice touch. |
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| 16:27.02 | mprelude | Thanks shay_shay, bought one of those in case firmware CD doesnt work |
| 16:27.03 | shay_shay | yeah xTEMPLARx especially on these thin notebooks , not a lot of ports. when i flashed my ssd i was one port short |
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| 16:27.15 | shay_shay | that startech one would have saved my bacon |
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| 16:29.35 | shay_shay | unofficial cd usually works but I have had it not work before... its better to have a nic lying around for emergencies |
| 16:30.27 | xTEMPLARx | true this |
| 16:31.13 | shay_shay | it might work but connection will be intermitent until you tweak some module setting, for example |
| 16:31.43 | shay_shay | that would be infuriating to try to google the solution with your wifi d/c and reconnecting agakn and again |
| 16:32.17 | xTEMPLARx | enough to make a person chuck a piece of hardware through the nearest window |
| 16:32.59 | shay_shay | that example comes from my laptop xD |
| 16:33.27 | shay_shay | ath9k |
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| 16:48.07 | kruug | `sgmllib.SGMLParseError: unknown status keyword 'end' in marked section` is the error I get when I run `chm2pdf --book --title file.chm` |
| 16:48.11 | kruug | full error text: http://paste.debian.net/159620/ |
| 16:48.18 | kruug | anyone heard of that? |
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| 16:51.27 | smemsh | hello, during sysvinit boot of debian8, i have 3 different console set rc scripts that are being run, is this normal? and why the duplication? (1) [info] Setting console screen modes and fonts (2) [info] Setting console screen modes (3) [ ok ] Setting up console font and keymap...done |
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| 16:52.04 | kuznero | Hi All! |
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| 16:52.44 | smemsh | this appears to be console-screen.sh, console-setup and kbd all duplicating each other |
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| 16:54.15 | kuznero | I'm new to Debian. Have recently installed Debian Jessie and trying to setup console-setup such that I have my 4K display work nice with gdm3 (works already) and tty's which is super tiny at the moment. Can somebody advice me on this? I tried nomodeset in grub2, though it makes gdm3 and console resolutions equal and it does not support widescreen (or I have problems with driver)... |
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| 16:54.39 | jelly | smemsh: they do different things. |
| 16:54.58 | kuznero | tty's resolution is too high I mean such that laters are super small |
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| 16:56.04 | jelly | smemsh: tho I don't really know what the kbd script does |
| 16:56.16 | vamps | kuznero: |
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| 16:56.34 | vamps | sorry wrong shortcut |
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| 16:57.51 | jelly | smemsh: what does "dpkg -l kbd keyboard-configuration console-tools" say, are all these packages actually installed? |
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| 16:58.26 | vamps | hum anyway kuznero did you try GRUB_GFXMODE option ? |
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| 16:59.48 | kuznero | vamps: yes, tries setting nomodeset in grub and PAYLOAD resolution (though it does not support widescreen resolutions :() |
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| 17:01.15 | kuznero | vamps: I kind of like how gdm3 works now. I can change resolutions in display settings and all. But when I switch to tty's (Ctrl+Alt+1-6) it simply maximum possible resolution that my video card can have. Which is completely unusable for me (unless I buy magnifier from 80's or something). |
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| 17:02.23 | vamps | kuznero: maybe you can change font size with : sudo dpkg-reconfigure console-setup |
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| 17:03.03 | kuznero | vamps: that might be a good idea. Let me try |
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| 17:04.12 | kuznero | vamps: didn't really change it. Or should I restart? or /etc/init.d/console-setup restart? |
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| 17:04.48 | vamps | kuznero: you may need to reboot to see the change |
| 17:05.07 | kuznero | vamps: I see. ok, thanks for help (in case I won't get back) :) |
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| 17:07.36 | smemsh | jelly: it is showing desired=remove,status=conf-files for console-tools, the others are installed/installed |
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| 17:08.13 | Cyclohexane | How do I update openssl to 1.0.2 on wheezy? |
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| 17:08.58 | smemsh | jelly: when i try to remove it says "is not installed, so not removed" but then why is the init script there? |
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| 17:11.01 | smemsh | jelly: the description says it's a fork of kbd with "fixes and enhacements" and lists conflicts kbd << 0.95-11 but my kbd is later than this |
| 17:11.25 | jelly | smemsh: Purge the package that is "rc", that will remove its remaining confffiles. |
| 17:11.58 | smemsh | jelly: so it still leaves a package record if you don't purge? i thought it only left the files themselves |
| 17:12.11 | jelly | smemsh: the init script itself is a conffile |
| 17:12.33 | jelly | and yes, a mere remove leaves those |
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| 17:12.49 | smemsh | jelly: right but how does dpkg -s know about it since the package itself was removed, i would think including metadata (so that only apt-cache could be used to query the metadata after removal), no? |
| 17:13.37 | jelly | smemsh: dpkg knows it was merely removed and not purged. You'll see a non-empty file in /var/lib/dpkg/info/packagename.list |
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| 17:15.00 | smemsh | jelly: so any removal without purge leaves metadata in dpkg? interesting |
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| 17:15.18 | jelly | smemsh: not just that, it also may leave files on the filesystem |
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| 17:15.47 | smemsh | jelly: right i understand that part but thought they were otherwise orphaned, it just left rcfiles so as to be safe (in case you had local edits you didn't want to lose) |
| 17:16.44 | jelly | they're not orphaned, dpkg still knows who they belonged to, so a possible reinstall can manage them saner |
| 17:17.19 | smemsh | jelly: the metadata part is new to me, i thought dpkg only dealt with packages that were actually installed |
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| 17:18.30 | smemsh | jelly: ok, thanks, well that takes care of one of the three duplicate init scripts, now i have to figure out which of the other two, i will reboot and see which ones remain. thanks! |
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| 17:19.42 | smemsh | jelly: i should probably query dpkg then to see which other ones left packages in this [halfway] removed state and purge those as well |
| 17:20.35 | xTEMPLARx | c'moooon debian live iso... work this time! |
| 17:21.03 | xTEMPLARx | failed last attempt, using ubuntu's usb startup disk creator |
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| 17:21.46 | smemsh | jelly: a reinstall would already know about the files (from the new package metadata) and would test for their existence, i don't see why dpkg has to retain knowledge of them for reinstall, but it's useful to know which ones you left unpurged, maybe it's for that specific reason |
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| 17:26.59 | meaneye | Is there a way to get native Firefox on Debian Testing? |
| 17:27.09 | meaneye | Without pulling unstable repos? |
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| 17:31.01 | CissWit | meaneye: mozilla.debian.net |
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| 17:33.01 | abrotman | meaneye: There is no difference, use Iceweasel |
| 17:33.38 | meaneye | I have no issue with naming and/or branding. |
| 17:33.57 | meaneye | Latest Iceweasel in testing is version 31, while firefox is at 34. |
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| 17:34.10 | bazhang | 36 |
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| 17:34.26 | polyphagia | you can use the experimental branch for the latest one |
| 17:34.41 | bazhang | ,version firefox |
| 17:34.42 | meaneye | Yes, 36, sorry. |
| 17:34.43 | judd | No package named 'firefox' was found in i386. |
| 17:34.46 | meaneye | So it's a huge difference. |
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| 17:34.52 | polyphagia | ,version iceweasel |
| 17:34.52 | judd | Package: iceweasel on i386 -- squeeze: 3.5.16-20; squeeze-security: 3.5.16-20; squeeze-backports: 10.0.12esr-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 31.3.0esr-1~deb7u1; wheezy-security: 31.5.0esr-1~deb7u1; sid: 31.5.0esr-1; jessie: 31.5.0esr-1; experimental: 36.0-2 |
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| 17:34.57 | polyphagia | experimental: 36.0-2 |
| 17:35.07 | meaneye | Hm, interesting. |
| 17:35.28 | meaneye | Can I just install iceweasel from experiemental and nothing else. |
| 17:35.30 | polyphagia | yes |
| 17:35.37 | meaneye | I remember trying this method before and it broke my system, almost. |
| 17:35.57 | polyphagia | https://wiki.debian.org/DebianExperimental#To_install_an_experimental_package |
| 17:36.02 | CissWit | come on, use mozilla.debian.net :) |
| 17:36.06 | teraflops | meaneye: what method? |
| 17:36.09 | meaneye | Because mozilla.debian.net suggests adding unstable repo. |
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| 17:36.19 | kruug | hmmm. I can't seem to install themes for Mate. I have them sitting in my ~/.themes folder, but they're not showing up in "Appearance Preferences". |
| 17:36.22 | CissWit | it suggests to add mozilla.debian.net's unstable repos |
| 17:36.22 | kruug | any ideas? |
| 17:36.25 | meaneye | One on mozilla.debian.net |
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| 17:36.32 | CissWit | which are fine for testing |
| 17:36.41 | meaneye | Not always, I had issues with that. |
| 17:37.16 | teraflops | meaneye: you just add the repo? nothing else? |
| 17:37.32 | meaneye | Wouldn't that pull other updates as well? |
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| 17:38.16 | teraflops | meaneye: use pinning (if you really need that repo) |
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| 17:39.08 | meaneye | Ah, I see. |
| 17:39.21 | meaneye | If I select beta version, then they suggest adding experimental from mozilla. |
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| 18:04.11 | zh1 | what can i use in debian to see my network traffic graphically? |
| 18:04.39 | armin | zh1: gkrellm |
| 18:04.51 | armin | zh1: also, depends on what you mean by graphic. |
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| 18:06.34 | zh1 | armin like a resources network monitor |
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| 18:07.57 | zh1 | armin i've seen gnome system monitor |
| 18:08.00 | lattera | so in my dhclient.conf, I have "supersede routers 192.168.2.254;" set for one of my interfaces, but it seems dhclient isn't respecting that option |
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| 18:08.22 | lattera | when I do a `netstat -rn`, the default route isn't set to 192.168.2.254 |
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| 18:08.46 | lattera | my dhclient.conf in full: http://pastebin.com/pzQvaupB |
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| 18:08.53 | lattera | am I doing something wrong? |
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| 18:12.24 | zh1 | armin gnome-system-monitor does it, thanks |
| 18:12.52 | hashworks | Hi. I'm trying to install Debian Jessie to a hardware RAID0. However the array isn't showing up in the list of drives in the partition manager. Could it be that the 1-CD version is missing drivers for the RAID? |
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| 18:16.02 | ment0s | Hi, when would we see xfce 4.12 in repos ? |
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| 18:20.39 | squisher | ment0s, I think right now with the freeze for jessie it may take a while |
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| 18:22.18 | ment0s | squisher: and installing xubuntu packages will most likely give me heart attack on current jessie ? |
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| 18:22.56 | mtn | ment0s: https://wiki.debian.org/DontBreakDebian |
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| 18:24.44 | zaffinger | how do i get a sftp running on my debian, the fastet way possible? |
| 18:25.35 | jelly | zaffinger: sftp client or sftp server? |
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| 18:25.47 | zaffinger | server |
| 18:26.00 | jelly | just install openssh-server or ssh. |
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| 18:26.01 | zaffinger | openssh is already isntalled |
| 18:26.07 | zaffinger | ah ok |
| 18:26.42 | jelly | when the server package is installed and the ssh service running, its sftp subsystem is enabled by default |
| 18:27.03 | lattera | how do I prevent debian from setting the default route to eth0? (eth0 is DHCP'd) |
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| 18:34.12 | lattera | does debian support /etc/rc.local? |
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| 18:35.30 | dondelelcaro | lattera: yes. |
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| 18:36.11 | valdyn | hashworks: its not really hardware raid, thats the most probably solution. But of course its possible that the driver is not there. |
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| 18:37.11 | hashworks | I thought everything created with the intel raid controller is a hardware raid? Or is it just a software raid on a low level? |
| 18:37.21 | hashworks | I will now try the DVD version |
| 18:37.38 | NoImNotNineVolt | there's also fakeraid. |
| 18:38.00 | NoImNotNineVolt | that's what this workstation has. |
| 18:38.07 | NoImNotNineVolt | fakeraid is the worst of both worlds. |
| 18:38.33 | NoImNotNineVolt | i ended up just using /dev/sdb as a data volume. no raid is better than fakeraid. |
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| 18:41.46 | hashworks | Damn. Still isn't showing up on the DVD Image Installer |
| 18:42.06 | hashworks | Any idea? |
| 18:42.12 | valdyn | hashworks: are the individual disks showing up? |
| 18:42.16 | hashworks | No |
| 18:42.34 | hashworks | Only the usb stick I use for the install image |
| 18:42.40 | valdyn | hashworks: get an installer that has a kernel that supports you hardware |
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| 18:43.43 | hashworks | Supporting raid controller specifically valdyn? |
| 18:43.56 | valdyn | hashworks: no |
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| 18:44.29 | valdyn | !wheezy |
| 18:44.29 | dpkg | Wheezy is the codename for the current <stable> release, Debian 7.0, released on 2013-05-04: http://www.debian.org/News/2013/20130504 . Wheezy is the rubber toy penguin with a red bow tie. See http://wiki.debian.org/DebianWheezy and ask me about <install wheezy> <release notes> <squeeze->wheezy>. Currently <7.8>. |
| 18:44.48 | valdyn | thats a long time ago, plenty new hardware appeared since then |
| 18:45.23 | hashworks | Yeah, I'm using jessie rc1 |
| 18:45.45 | valdyn | ok, thats not old |
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| 18:58.31 | estefaniaVigo | Hola |
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| 19:00.22 | hashworks | Strange. The raid disk show up as /dev/sda and /dev/sdb, but not the raid array. fdisk confirms that they're isw_raid_members trough |
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| 19:16.53 | valdyn | !dmraid |
| 19:16.54 | dpkg | Fakeraid is a term used for controller cards that advertise RAID functionality that is NOT supported by a hardware chip for parity. Most of these have only a BIOS. For use with Debian systems, it is suggested that you do not set a RAID in the BIOS and don't use dmraid, just use regular software RAID instead; ask me about <md>. http://wiki.debian.org/DebianInstaller/SataRaid |
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| 19:18.36 | RoyK | hashworks: I beleive the one above from dpkg was for you :P |
| 19:19.45 | hashworks | Oh damn :( |
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| 19:22.26 | JunkHunk | hello I need some help with this: http://www.unix.com/man-page/debian/1/biomaj/ |
| 19:22.41 | JunkHunk | I installed the biomaj database but it is not running |
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| 19:23.15 | RoyK | hashworks: no harm done - just disable RAID and setup sw raid |
| 19:23.45 | hashworks | Not an option, since I need Linux AND Windows to be in the same Raid |
| 19:23.57 | JunkHunk | I guess it is due to a sql error which as stated there I should fix by running the update.pl script |
| 19:24.07 | JunkHunk | but when I do nothing happens |
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| 19:24.24 | dr3er0x | hello |
| 19:24.31 | dr3er0x | i can use the command killall |
| 19:24.35 | JunkHunk | hi |
| 19:24.35 | dr3er0x | can't |
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| 19:24.44 | JunkHunk | try xkill |
| 19:24.45 | dr3er0x | killall = command not found any idea? |
| 19:24.49 | dr3er0x | its a vps |
| 19:24.58 | dr3er0x | i have no x |
| 19:25.02 | JunkHunk | oops |
| 19:25.07 | NoImNotNineVolt | sudo apt-get install killall |
| 19:25.12 | dr3er0x | doesnt exists |
| 19:25.27 | kruug | sudo killall |
| 19:25.48 | hashworks | I don't think killall is an actual linux command |
| 19:25.56 | dr3er0x | ah |
| 19:26.02 | dr3er0x | seems this https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/psmisc |
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| 19:26.04 | dr3er0x | brb |
| 19:26.06 | NoImNotNineVolt | i've used it before but i have no idea where it comes from. |
| 19:26.11 | RoyK | hashworks: it is - it's in psmisc |
| 19:26.13 | acz32 | look in /usr/bin and see if you have killall |
| 19:26.28 | hashworks | Ah, ok RoyK |
| 19:26.40 | dr3er0x | indeed is psmisc |
| 19:26.42 | dr3er0x | thx |
| 19:27.23 | acz32 | it's not just a linux command |
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| 19:27.48 | RoyK | acz32: well, gnu killall != BSD killall :P |
| 19:28.01 | deepy | != solaris killall |
| 19:28.08 | RoyK | indeed |
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| 19:29.45 | runa | heyas :) I would like to mount an overlayfs with a read-only NFS and a read-write local disk. my problem is that files in the local disk end up owned by root.root |
| 19:32.46 | dr3er0x | root@root |
| 19:33.01 | dr3er0x | ok thanks! |
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| 19:42.44 | mcmillhj | What can I do to improve the volume on debian jessie? Even when the sound is turned up all the way youtube and spotify sound really soft |
| 19:43.09 | valdyn | mcmillhj: where do you turn it up? |
| 19:43.24 | mcmillhj | was using pavucontrol |
| 19:43.56 | mcmillhj | oh crap |
| 19:44.01 | valdyn | mcmillhj: at the device *and* at the stream control ? |
| 19:44.21 | mcmillhj | nevermind the issue was the host os was controlling to output to my headphones |
| 19:44.24 | mcmillhj | my mistake |
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| 19:50.35 | confrey | just installed debian testing again, but I miss compiz and its artwork, because of it is present in ubuntu and mint reporitory, is there a way to compile it from sources to create .deb packages for testing? |
| 19:51.46 | polyphagia | which artwork are you talking about? |
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| 19:55.00 | confrey | polyphagia, excuse e if I don't tell properly, I find useful desktop wall and windows scaling, only these two; I know I may get them in cinnamon, but I want a lighter desktop |
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| 19:56.52 | confrey | polyphagia, sorry, I must leave now bye |
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| 20:42.04 | trysten | abrotman: i figured out why i couldn't get deboostrap to work. the target filesystem did not have enough free space. thanks for your help! |
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| 20:42.17 | abrotman | trysten: Heh, that'll do it |
| 20:42.30 | abrotman | Not sure it was me .. |
| 20:42.53 | trysten | i've tried to make a bootable system without using the installer. we'll see how it goes. sure! you encouraged me |
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| 20:43.50 | abrotman | oh okay |
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| 20:56.34 | _newb | usually somebody shows me how to do this, but i'm alone -- how do i upgrade php5.3 to (at least) php5.4 on debian squeeze |
| 20:57.32 | greycat | ,v php5-common |
| 20:57.33 | judd | Package: php5-common on i386 -- squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze19; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze19; squeeze-security-lts: 5.3.3-7+squeeze25; wheezy: 5.4.36-0+deb7u1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 5.4.36-0+deb7u3; wheezy-security: 5.4.36-0+deb7u3; jessie: 5.6.5+dfsg-2; sid: 5.6.6+dfsg-2 |
| 20:58.00 | greycat | I don't know if there's a "squeeze backports" site that judd isn't searching. |
| 20:58.29 | _newb | greycat: there was a site that said dotdeb has php |
| 20:58.38 | _newb | but i don't know how to do this |
| 20:58.43 | dersquisher | the regular squeeze-backports don't have php5.4 |
| 20:59.01 | greycat | if there's a nonstandard repository that you trust, it should have instructions for how to add lines the sources.list and so on |
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| 21:00.28 | _newb | a website said to use: deb http://packages.dotdeb.org squeeze all |
| 21:00.36 | _newb | but i don't know if it's 'trusted' hahah |
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| 21:02.19 | abrotman | _newb: it's not |
| 21:02.22 | dersquisher | _newb, personally I'd rather upgrade to wheezy |
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| 21:03.42 | _newb | is there a comprehensive tutorial out there for _newbs like me to upgrade from squeeze to wheezy? |
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| 21:06.11 | greycat | dpkg: squeeze->wheezy |
| 21:06.12 | dpkg | Read chapter 4 ("Upgrades from Debian 6.0") of the <release notes>. In /etc/apt/sources.list, change "squeeze" to "wheezy" (noting that <wheezy-backports> have changed on the mirrors). apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade. See also <squeeze->wheezy failures>. |
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| 21:08.09 | akkad | how do you remove packages accidentally unpacked, but not configured? https://gist.github.com/7cdb575b08e49f6794de |
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| 21:10.03 | dersquisher | akkad, dpkg -r will probably do it (feed it all package names at once for best results) |
| 21:10.17 | akkad | o|O |
| 21:10.51 | akkad | someone with all their chromosomes know? |
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| 21:12.59 | _newb | thanks greycat |
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| 21:18.18 | sandieg | heey |
| 21:18.49 | sandieg | Cant I, install firmware-realtek ? why |
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| 21:19.32 | sandieg | says 0 package found :) |
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| 21:20.53 | sandieg | using wheezy btw! |
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| 21:21.33 | abrotman | dpkg: tell sandieg about non-free |
| 21:21.33 | babilen | dpkg: tell sandieg -about non-free |
| 21:21.34 | greycat | sandieg: make sure you've added contrib and non-free to your sources.list |
| 21:21.38 | babilen | dpkg: tell sandieg -about non-free sources |
| 21:21.47 | sandieg | oh snap |
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| 21:22.00 | babilen | sandieg: You want a sources list like: http://paste.debian.net/159695/ |
| 21:22.08 | babilen | (or exactly that) |
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| 21:24.59 | sandieg | danke |
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| 21:32.34 | sandieg | well, my wifi card still doesnt work for me , after installing firmware-realtek |
| 21:32.50 | sandieg | should a reboot fix the problem ? |
| 21:33.23 | polyphagia | yes sandieg if your wifi card is a realtek |
| 21:33.39 | sandieg | reboot needed right ? |
| 21:34.06 | sandieg | all rigtht polyphagia , tks brb |
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| 21:38.11 | sandieg | reback :) |
| 21:38.24 | sandieg | my wifi still doesnt open but led is ok in laptop |
| 21:38.32 | sandieg | led is on |
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| 21:39.06 | sandieg | what should be the problem this time ? |
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| 21:40.10 | polyphagia | sandieg: run lspci and paste output to https://paste.debian.net |
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| 21:41.12 | RoyK | sandieg: or lshw -v |
| 21:41.13 | sandieg | sec brb |
| 21:41.17 | RoyK | sandieg: tells a bit more |
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| 21:42.03 | sandieg | debian should considere installing wgetpaste |
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| 21:44.50 | sandieg | http://pastebin.com/G481N9WZ |
| 21:44.57 | sandieg | polyphagia, |
| 21:45.39 | sandieg | after all is intel haha :) |
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| 21:46.07 | polyphagia | ye thought so |
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| 21:48.15 | sandieg | should i open the kernel ? and add the module ? |
| 21:48.31 | sandieg | it shouldnt be on by default.. i think ! |
| 21:50.32 | polyphagia | sandieg: there's another intel firmware package you need to get |
| 21:50.35 | polyphagia | under nonfree |
| 21:51.34 | sandieg | tks |
| 21:51.43 | sandieg | you got the name with you?:) |
| 21:51.58 | sandieg | is it the iwlwifi ? |
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| 21:53.31 | helice | Audio is not working anymore, every application seems to set its own volume and settings... does anyone else know what's wrong? |
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| 21:54.05 | sandieg | helice,, try managing the sound with pulseaudio |
| 21:54.12 | sandieg | apt-get install pavucontrol |
| 21:54.20 | polyphagia | yeah sandieg that's it |
| 21:54.31 | sandieg | ok polyphagia |
| 21:54.37 | helice | I'll try, thanks |
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| 21:56.10 | helice | It's still not working |
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| 21:56.53 | sandieg | hmmmm |
| 21:57.10 | sandieg | did you made any changes , to asound.rc ? |
| 21:57.13 | helice | I've tried messing with the mute buttons but I get no sound at all... |
| 21:57.14 | sandieg | asound.conf |
| 21:57.24 | helice | I don't even know what's that, so unless some update did, I didn't |
| 21:57.41 | sandieg | run #sudo alsamixer |
| 21:57.54 | sandieg | and double check it just in case |
| 21:58.19 | helice | Still no sound :( |
| 21:59.24 | sandieg | you using laptop or desktop ? |
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| 21:59.44 | helice | Laptop |
| 21:59.58 | helice | But everything has been working for years now |
| 22:00.06 | sandieg | with headphones or headsets ? if yes jack 4,5 or usb ? |
| 22:00.18 | helice | Headphones right now |
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| 22:00.24 | sandieg | try remove them |
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| 22:00.36 | sandieg | unjack or remove usb |
| 22:00.41 | sandieg | and see if problem presists |
| 22:00.54 | helice | Nothing at all |
| 22:01.04 | sandieg | is the music player running ? |
| 22:01.07 | helice | Nope |
| 22:01.18 | sandieg | might do the trick to trun it on |
| 22:01.27 | helice | I've noticed I do get audio when I keep my backspace key pressed |
| 22:01.27 | sandieg | :)) |
| 22:01.38 | sandieg | woot -- |
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| 22:02.01 | helice | It seems to mix the "beep" and the real audio and plays both through my laptop's speakers |
| 22:02.11 | helice | It's weird |
| 22:02.20 | sandieg | backspace has nothing to do with sound i think , how did you found that ? backspace makes your music running ? |
| 22:02.46 | helice | Well, when I press backspace in an empty dialog box... |
| 22:02.47 | sandieg | do you have steam installed btw ? |
| 22:02.49 | helice | I do not |
| 22:03.09 | sandieg | gnome or kde ? |
| 22:03.12 | helice | Xfce |
| 22:03.17 | sandieg | install qmix |
| 22:03.21 | sandieg | it should fix your problem |
| 22:03.34 | helice | What's the package name? |
| 22:03.40 | sandieg | "qmix" |
| 22:03.44 | helice | It's not |
| 22:03.46 | eric23 | xfce4-mixer is good |
| 22:03.47 | sandieg | .. |
| 22:03.53 | sandieg | well :) |
| 22:03.55 | sandieg | try both |
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| 22:04.00 | sandieg | tho be honnesty |
| 22:04.04 | helice | xfce4-mixer does what it wants |
| 22:04.18 | helice | I had audio working until four hours ago |
| 22:04.24 | sandieg | well last change is to reroll |
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| 22:04.35 | sandieg | your package xfce4-mixer |
| 22:04.43 | sandieg | remove and install again |
| 22:04.51 | SpeakerToMeat | Someone else experiences partial window redraws? I'm using nvidia with closed source driver, Has been hapening for at least 15 or more driver versions, I suspect compositing but I am unsure if there's any trick I can do to fix it. I mean this kind of things: http://i.imgur.com/66zLcX6.jpg only parts of the screen redraw when changing the screen contents (new page in firefox, changing directories in nautilus, opening a context menu, that |
| 22:05.18 | helice | Apparently I can't remove xfce4-mixer without removing all of xfce |
| 22:05.26 | helice | I'm comfortable with a terminal but not that much |
| 22:05.52 | helice | I... I don't know why is this happening |
| 22:05.58 | sandieg | can you check for this file under /etc/asound.rc |
| 22:06.00 | sandieg | or |
| 22:06.06 | sandieg | /etc/asound.conf |
| 22:06.19 | helice | Both are empty or nonexistent |
| 22:06.24 | sandieg | hehe |
| 22:06.36 | sandieg | sec. |
| 22:07.05 | sandieg | google for it asound.conf |
| 22:07.12 | sandieg | put it on your /etc and reboot |
| 22:07.26 | helice | What will that do? |
| 22:07.27 | sandieg | because your allways using heaphones |
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| 22:07.56 | helice | But why does sound play when I press backspace into an empty dialog box? |
| 22:08.01 | sandieg | pulgin and out and if its a usb connector makes loads os ids and the machine might lose the trace of your headphone door |
| 22:08.17 | helice | It's a 3.5mm jack |
| 22:08.23 | sandieg | okie man |
| 22:08.24 | sandieg | :) |
| 22:08.27 | sandieg | asound.conf |
| 22:08.33 | sandieg | should do the trick sec |
| 22:08.41 | helice | I hope it does |
| 22:08.54 | sandieg | goggle it : asound.conf for jack headset connection |
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| 22:09.03 | sandieg | them reboot if doesnt work come back |
| 22:09.27 | eric23 | maybe helice should post a screen shot of the mixer settings |
| 22:10.34 | helice | Everything is on, not muted and at 100% |
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| 22:11.45 | eric23 | I just have master and PCM set |
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| 22:12.15 | helice | I don't understand anything |
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| 22:14.27 | helice | I don't understand anything |
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| 22:14.35 | helice | Now I'm getting audio but only on certain players |
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| 22:17.16 | helice | It's... half working now, so I guess I've got enough Linux for today |
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| 22:17.21 | helice | Thank you all |
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| 22:19.42 | lanodan | I feel like libjpeg62(-turbo)? is annoying bullshit |
| 22:20.16 | lanodan | (Because of packages using versions) |
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| 22:21.29 | lanodan | (and the version numbering being different) |
| 22:21.50 | sandieg | hey still doesnt work my wifi intel pro card zomg |
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| 22:23.38 | SpeakerToMeat | We're on RC1 with Jessie right now, right? |
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| 22:24.12 | babilen | SpeakerToMeat: RC1 is strictly about the installer (which is software too) |
| 22:24.35 | SpeakerToMeat | Ok |
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| 22:25.21 | SpeakerToMeat | I am not sure if there will be changes to the distro itself after the second freeze in dec 5, and when the status change of Jessie to stable will be |
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| 22:27.21 | lanodan | Okay so Iâll virtualise to have things working⦠|
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| 22:43.13 | gcosmin | Hi, I just have manage to install debian & xfce but when I try startx it is giving me an error Screen no found Error 1 ... |
| 22:43.19 | gcosmin | I do not know if xorg has been installed or configured when the istallatin has been done |
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| 22:44.03 | gcosmin | would anyone be able to help me ? |
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| 22:45.09 | peterrooney | gcosmin: dpkg -l | grep xorg will tell you installation/configuration status |
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| 22:46.54 | gcosmin | peterrooney: thank you, looks like it is installed, do you know where I can see the xorg.conf file ? |
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| 22:49.01 | peterrooney | gcosmin: As a rule, xorg.conf is no longer used, unless you create it. Check out /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
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| 23:05.22 | gcosmin | <PROTECTED> |
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| 23:08.03 | SpeakerToMeat | gcosmin: For the card? lspci maybe? sometimes vendor id and device id are helpful |
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| 23:08.22 | gcosmin | SpeakerToMeat: thank you |
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| 23:10.47 | gcosmin | how can I start my mouse in console mode ? |
| 23:11.15 | teraflop | install gpm gcosmin |
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| 23:16.19 | gcosmin | how can I change setings for xorg to use Intel module, not vesa? |
| 23:16.53 | hikenboot | have a small problem someone might be able to helpl me with. on a live cd build I can not log into fluxbox desktop (it was working) so it must be some kind of lock file. anyone know what the lock file might be and where it might be? |
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| 23:18.43 | hikenboot | I notice there is a ICE-UNIX and .X11-Unix file in tmp directory might this be them? |
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| 23:23.26 | emash | hello everyone |
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| 23:28.57 | gcosmin | how can I change settings for xorg to use Intel module, not vesa? |
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| 23:31.10 | dersquisher | gcosmin, afaik usually that's autodetected these days. But a minimal xorg.conf may help -- google should probably find that pretty quickly |
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| 23:32.21 | gcosmin | dersquisher: I am in textmode using irssi to see if I can find anyone to help me as I am new in linux world |
| 23:32.50 | gcosmin | I do not have access to google only using my phone... |
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| 23:33.37 | gcosmin | may have said that it is autodetected but istead of using Intel I can see that is trying Vesa and I get an error when I want to startxfce4 |
| 23:34.10 | gcosmin | I do not know how to create xorg.conf ... |
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| 23:37.53 | dersquisher | gcosmin, look at https://wiki.debian.org/KernelModesetting , at the bottom of the page they have a minimal example. Replace "nv" with "intel" |
| 23:38.35 | gcosmin | I do not have access to google only using my phone... |
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| 23:38.48 | dersquisher | but fwiw, my debian laptop had no trouble autodetecting the intel card. Maybe you want to pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log |
| 23:38.53 | gcosmin | I am in textmode using irrsi to get some help |
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| 23:39.11 | dersquisher | gcosmin, well, install pastebinit or so, you can at least paste your log |
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| 23:39.42 | mtn | gcosmin: when your computer boots, can you do ctrl+alt+F2 to get to a login screen? |
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| 23:40.42 | gcosmin | didn't know I can install pastebinit , I have just done it |
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| 23:42.33 | gcosmin | paste.debian.net/159714 |
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| 23:43.09 | gcosmin | hehehe pastebinit it is quite smart :) |
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| 23:43.38 | ioanapetric | Cosminelu |
| 23:43.48 | gcosmin | mnt no, I can not start X |
| 23:43.59 | ioanapetric | Hey experts, I have a question |
| 23:44.09 | mtn | gcosmin: no, not X. but a tty |
| 23:44.15 | dersquisher | gcosmin, it's trying to load the intel driver just fine, no need for an xorg.conf. |
| 23:44.23 | dersquisher | I think your problem is: [ 4118.927] (EE) VESA(0): V_BIOS address 0x0 out of range |
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| 23:45.49 | gcosmin | dersquisher: what should I do... pls.. |
| 23:46.22 | ioanapetric | The packages and os updates which are handled by apt-get currently use the http protocol to fetch and gpg to verify and check integrity. Will the system work the same with http2.0? Or will something change |
| 23:47.08 | dersquisher | gcosmin, pastebin also: lspci -k |
| 23:47.25 | valdyn | ioanapetric: the same of course |
| 23:48.12 | valdyn | ioanapetric: and apt-get does not just work over http, it works over various protocols, http2 is just one more |
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| 23:49.39 | gcosmin | paste.debian.net/159715 |
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| 23:50.11 | dersquisher | gcosmin, brand new system? |
| 23:50.15 | dersquisher | are you using wheezy? |
| 23:50.22 | gcosmin | dersquisher: double yes |
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| 23:50.37 | dersquisher | highly likely that the hw is too new, I'd install a jessie |
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| 23:50.53 | dersquisher | or rather, just upgrade |
| 23:51.11 | ioanapetric | Valdyn true, but this one changes stuff. It keeps the conn alive |
| 23:51.36 | ioanapetric | Not close it after each request |
| 23:51.58 | valdyn | ioanapetric: thats not new either |
| 23:52.09 | ioanapetric | ? |
| 23:52.25 | valdyn | http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTTP_persistent_connection |
| 23:54.34 | dersquisher | the real difference is that you can do parallel requests over one tcp connection |
| 23:54.51 | dersquisher | but what valdyn says still applies ;-) |
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| 23:56.29 | dersquisher | gcosmin, jessie is already in feature freeze, I personally think it should be fine to upgrade already even though it's not released. And, chances are, you won't get it to work otherwise anyway. |
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| 23:57.57 | gcosmin | dersquisher: I just started to install kde-standard to see how it goes, but anyway I'll try jessie once I see how it goes... going to kill some time |
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