| 00:00.32 | yzarkugle | is this gui software method shown here available on debian? http://www.howtogeek.com/116409/how-to-turn-your-ubuntu-laptop-into-a-wireless-access-point/ |
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| 00:08.01 | and2099 | teste 123 testando 123 |
| 00:08.13 | yzarkugle | does the base system come with a web browser i might be able to use in order to log onto a site to gain wifi capability? no luck trying lynx, links, w3m |
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| 00:08.37 | dondelelcaro | yzarkugle: if you installed a desktop, then it'll have a web browser |
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| 00:08.47 | dondelelcaro | yzarkugle: otherwise, if the portal needs javascript, you're probably out of luck. |
| 00:09.13 | dondelelcaro | (AFAIK, no one has written a console browser which supports javascript) |
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| 00:10.12 | dondelelcaro | apparently, edbrowse does |
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| 00:11.46 | dondelelcaro | (and apparently, elinks, but not the way it's currently packaged in Debian; see #721198) |
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| 00:12.54 | dondelelcaro | heh; the packager found out that it "supports" javascript, but really doesn't, so disabled it. |
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| 00:23.29 | srg | abrotman: I figured it out. I use a proxy for Iceweasel; The DNS traffic wasn't using my resolv.conf, it was going through the proxy. |
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| 00:27.19 | acz32 | if i dual boot debian and windows, i can overwrite the debian space with a new install using encrypted LVM and it shouln't mess with windows, right? |
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| 00:36.26 | abrotman | srg: that'll be difficult |
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| 00:41.07 | Brigo | acz32, if you dual boot with debian and windows, you need to use grub as boot loader, so you will not mell windows at all. |
| 00:41.27 | Brigo | as far as you don't overwrit it, of course :D |
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| 00:48.42 | acz32 | Brigo: thanks |
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| 00:49.19 | Brigo | acz32, np :) |
| 00:49.20 | acz32 | so i'll just delete all debian partitions and let LVM organize it into correct sizes again for the free space |
| 00:49.56 | Brigo | as long as you do not touch windows partitions you should be fine. |
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| 00:50.32 | acz32 | ok |
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| 00:53.07 | s7r | I have a virtual machine on vmware with debian wheezy. All files are in a single partition (recommended for new users) setting. I have just increased the virtual disk size (/dev/sda). I rebooted and can see the new space in fdisk -l. How do I extend the partition size? |
| 00:53.54 | acz32 | you can use gparted |
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| 00:54.21 | teraflops | s7r: resizing the partition to fill the empty space? |
| 00:54.28 | s7r | I only have command line |
| 00:54.44 | s7r | rephrase. expanding the root partition |
| 00:55.25 | teraflops | s7r: expanding the partition to fill the empty space? |
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| 00:55.41 | s7r | what do you mean? |
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| 01:01.20 | s7r | no ideas? |
| 01:01.23 | s7r | i don't want to lose the data |
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| 01:04.44 | teraflops | s7r: without using lvm I think you can not erasing the partition |
| 01:05.10 | Voobr | Hello. I'm using debhelper to make a binary deb package. "dh" complains, though, that my control file is missing a Source field: "error: syntax error in debian/control at line 9: first block lacks a source field" |
| 01:05.21 | Voobr | The target I'm using is "binary-arch" |
| 01:05.32 | Voobr | I thought "Source" was unnecessary for a binary package...? |
| 01:05.41 | s7r | teraflops so i cannot do it ? |
| 01:05.46 | s7r | cannot expand the disk without formatting ? |
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| 01:07.25 | teraflops | s7r: uhm i just use lvm because of that |
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| 01:08.12 | teraflops | s7r: there are several links about doing that, never tried so i cant say |
| 01:08.58 | Brigo | s7r, If you cannot use gparted, use parted. |
| 01:09.20 | Brigo | s7r, what filesystem are you using? |
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| 01:11.48 | teraflops | s7r: something like that? http://goo.gl/3kM3rL |
| 01:13.27 | Brigo | i am going to sleep. Good night teraflops . s7r good luck and good night :)ç |
| 01:13.38 | teraflops | gn Brigo |
| 01:14.13 | s7r | Brigo thank you |
| 01:14.15 | s7r | i am using ext3 |
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| 01:22.54 | roothorick | what's the best way to get a home server to send mail to actual public email addresses? |
| 01:23.53 | srg | Run postfix or exim, set it up to NOT listen on port 25 (or anything else), give it a real hostname, static IP with reverse-DNS records |
| 01:24.05 | abrotman | roothorick: depends on your ISP. But generally, use your ISP's SMTP serveres as a smart host |
| 01:24.11 | srg | if you don't have a static IP or the proper reverse-DNS, it's likely that your mail will be rejected by the remote server. |
| 01:24.20 | abrotman | roothorick: that also depends on which domains you're using as your From address |
| 01:26.04 | roothorick | in the absence of an accessible ISP server, suggestions? |
| 01:26.24 | abrotman | roothorick: but rr.com has an SMTP server |
| 01:26.28 | teraflops | roothorick: may be using a ipv6 tunnelbroker |
| 01:26.43 | roothorick | abrotman: keyword "accessible" |
| 01:27.12 | abrotman | roothorick: If you have credentials, you should be able to send from anywhere .. /me can't imagine why someone on rr.com wouldn't be able to access the rr.com SMTP server |
| 01:27.37 | srg | roothorick: Is this a dynamic IP with a generic reverse DNS (like 12345.east.pool.verizon.net or something) ? |
| 01:27.47 | roothorick | srg: I think so |
| 01:27.58 | srg | If so, then you can try it, but you're mostly out of luck. Remote servers will reject your mail. |
| 01:27.59 | teraflops | then you can't |
| 01:27.59 | abrotman | roois this actually from the IP you just came from? |
| 01:28.05 | abrotman | roothorick: ^^ |
| 01:28.18 | roothorick | yeah, it'll be from the home server with this IP |
| 01:28.36 | roothorick | so basically, I need to connect it to an account on some external server |
| 01:28.53 | roothorick | I wouldn't even know how to get into the ISP email, tbh |
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| 01:29.01 | abrotman | roothorick: yes, Gmail can suffice (again, depending on the From address you're trying to use) |
| 01:29.51 | teraflops | roothorick: i have several vms running mail server and other stuff just using he.net ipv6 addresses with reverse dns and all that stuff, but if your remote server dont do ipv6 it is worthless |
| 01:29.58 | abrotman | roothorick: and yes, your IP is listed in the spamhaus PBL. So you'd have a hard time |
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| 01:33.43 | abrotman | roothorick: I know rr.com allows their customers to operate mail servers, but the reality is that it's hard to have work effectively |
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| 01:49.11 | AlexLikerock | hi |
| 01:49.33 | AlexLikerock | where can i found boot LOGs in systemD? |
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| 01:50.44 | rudi_s | AlexLikerock: journalctl |
| 01:51.23 | AlexLikerock | rudi_s, , tanks |
| 01:51.39 | AlexLikerock | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:52.24 | rudi_s | AlexLikerock: man systemd-journald |
| 01:52.36 | rudi_s | *and there are no text files, it's a binary log format. |
| 01:53.45 | AlexLikerock | Grrrrrr ! |
| 01:53.54 | AlexLikerock | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:54.12 | AlexLikerock | if my pc not startup, |
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| 01:54.31 | AlexLikerock | <PROTECTED> |
| 01:54.34 | AlexLikerock | tooo bad |
| 01:54.42 | AlexLikerock | how remove sistemd ? |
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| 01:55.41 | rudi_s | !enter |
| 01:55.41 | dpkg | The enter key is not a substitute for punctuation. Hitting enter unnecessarily makes it difficult to follow what you are saying. Consider using ',', '. ', ';', '...', '---', or ':' instead. If you hit enter too often, you will be autokicked by debhelper for flooding the channel. |
| 01:56.21 | rudi_s | AlexLikerock: ^ - and secondly, you can still read them. You boot from a rescue disk and then run journalctl --file path/to/log or --rot path/to/logs. |
| 01:56.38 | AlexLikerock | naaa |
| 01:56.55 | AlexLikerock | i dont like |
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| 01:57.05 | rudi_s | If you just want to troll, please go somewhere else. |
| 01:57.07 | AlexLikerock | can do that (run journalctl --file path/to/log or --rot path/to/logs.) |
| 01:57.12 | AlexLikerock | whit linux ppuppy ? |
| 01:57.20 | AlexLikerock | no, im not trooll |
| 01:57.37 | AlexLikerock | just i say , what i tink |
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| 01:57.47 | AlexLikerock | <PROTECTED> |
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| 01:58.26 | abrotman | rudi_s: sadly, not a troll, just not ambitious |
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| 02:01.10 | AlexLikerock | http://without-systemd.org |
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| 02:10.09 | rudi_s | Ok. |
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| 03:05.59 | aphorise | If I have "Router 1" & "Router 2" with my IPv6? - how / where do I define these? |
| 03:06.19 | aphorise | I've been able to configure ip, etc. & can ping my router but I cant get outside. |
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| 03:22.45 | haeikou | hi guys ... i'm lost. /usr/bin/libtool doesn't exist on my sid system even though the package is installed |
| 03:22.52 | haeikou | what is going on there? |
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| 03:38.09 | momoterra | hi guys do i need to download all 3 dvd to install debian server |
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| 03:46.25 | somiaj | momoterra: you don't even need to download one. If you have a decent network connenction the netinstall is a good starting point, then just download the packages you need with apt after you get the base system isntalled. |
| 03:46.34 | somiaj | momoterra: but dvd1 is enough for many things |
| 03:46.46 | momoterra | yeah im download DVD 1 right now |
| 03:46.50 | momoterra | how do i do netinstall? |
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| 03:47.49 | momoterra | actually its fine ill just do dvd1 its easy enough |
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| 03:48.56 | somiaj | It is just another download option, it is a 300megish file I think. It contains a functional minimal install on it (off line) and once you configure the network you can just download anything else you need with apt. |
| 03:49.07 | momoterra | oh okay i got it now |
| 03:49.15 | momoterra | yeah dvd should be fine |
| 03:49.50 | somiaj | the installer is the same on both, during the install it will configure your network and install stuff if you ask it to. Biggiest issue is most wifi and some wired network cards require non-free firmware which is not included in the 'main' installer. |
| 03:50.06 | somiaj | have fun, if you run into any questions feel free to ask them here |
| 03:50.22 | momoterra | thanks! |
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| 03:50.43 | momoterra | its my first time setting up debian server |
| 03:51.00 | momoterra | had a choice between ubuntu vs debian and from what i gather in google |
| 03:51.03 | momoterra | debian is rock solid |
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| 03:51.32 | polyphagia | good choice momoterra |
| 03:51.46 | polyphagia | debian doesn't afraid of anything |
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| 03:52.12 | momoterra | lol |
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| 03:59.13 | nell | guys I made a big mistake |
| 03:59.21 | nell | I deleted the wrong partition on gparted |
| 04:00.00 | polyphagia | rip |
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| 04:01.22 | booby_tables_24 | u dun goofd |
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| 04:05.00 | z8z | debian compiler version supports up to c++11 standard correct? |
| 04:07.57 | Rusty1 | z8z: ask #gcc , they should be able to help check your version against it |
| 04:08.52 | z8z | Rusty1: ok thanks |
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| 04:38.03 | Contrl | I have two systems that when they first boot into the desktop the mouse doesn't show up for a while. 15 - 30 seconds? Why is this? |
| 04:38.54 | TyrfingMjolnir | How stable is jessie? |
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| 04:39.49 | Contrl | TyrfingMjolnir: Fairly stable, except for my issue above. |
| 04:40.13 | TyrfingMjolnir | mouse? |
| 04:40.14 | TyrfingMjolnir | I only use my macbook as mouse |
| 04:40.23 | Contrl | I mean the pointer doesn't show |
| 04:40.25 | TyrfingMjolnir | I only run debian on servers |
| 04:40.43 | TyrfingMjolnir | All my interactions with my debian systems( 12 of the ) are through ssh |
| 04:40.53 | Contrl | Should try it on desktop. Pretty well put together |
| 04:40.58 | TyrfingMjolnir | *the/them |
| 04:41.16 | TyrfingMjolnir | I prefer bodhi for my "windows" laptops |
| 04:41.23 | TyrfingMjolnir | Not that I ever run Windows |
| 04:41.45 | TyrfingMjolnir | Enligthenment is my favorite desktop, is there a reasonable e19 for debian? |
| 04:41.54 | TyrfingMjolnir | I have seen in ubuntu there is only e17 |
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| 04:42.07 | Contrl | e19 / e17? |
| 04:43.32 | TyrfingMjolnir | e19 is in Bodhi Linux |
| 04:43.47 | TyrfingMjolnir | e17 I think is the one in Jessie and Ubuntu, no? |
| 04:44.10 | TyrfingMjolnir | Contrl: What kind of stuff do you do? |
| 04:44.25 | Contrl | I have no clue what e17/e19 is |
| 04:44.29 | TyrfingMjolnir | I'm looking for a good IDE for cpp and JS |
| 04:44.40 | TyrfingMjolnir | e17 = enlightenment desktop environment version 17 |
| 04:44.48 | TyrfingMjolnir | e19 = enlightenment desktop environment version 19 |
| 04:44.53 | Contrl | I'd suggest the corresponding channels. #javascript or #c++ |
| 04:44.59 | TyrfingMjolnir | http://www.enlightenment.org |
| 04:45.11 | Contrl | I do some Python coding, and just general desktop stuff. IRC, etc |
| 04:45.32 | TyrfingMjolnir | I always use vim, and have used vi[m[ last 30 years or so |
| 04:45.49 | Contrl | https://bitbucket.org/contrl/contrl/src if interested - not remotely feature complete. |
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| 04:48.24 | Contrl | No info about the mouse pointer issue? |
| 04:50.16 | TyrfingMjolnir | Terminology 0.8.0 is the best |
| 04:50.41 | Contrl | TyrfingMjolnir: ? |
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| 05:00.38 | TyrfingMjolnir | Conhttp://www.enlightenment.org/p.php?p=about/terminology&l=en |
| 05:00.40 | TyrfingMjolnir | Contrl: http://www.enlightenment.org/p.php?p=about/terminology&l=en |
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| 05:01.09 | Contrl | TyrfingMjolnir: I don't really need a new terminal, though |
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| 05:20.51 | momoterra | should i use graphical install or just normal install |
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| 05:27.28 | momoterra | when should i use LVM |
| 05:29.07 | rjsalts | momoterra: Whenever you can imo |
| 05:29.24 | sillysquirt | How do I get started with Debian using Debootstrap? |
| 05:29.26 | momoterra | oh shit i just click next without it |
| 05:29.44 | rjsalts | momoterra: it's not the end of the world, you can either go back |
| 05:29.45 | momoterra | im installing debian though vm |
| 05:29.57 | momoterra | yeah this is test server anyways |
| 05:29.59 | rjsalts | momoterra: it's less of a concern in a vm |
| 05:30.01 | momoterra | maybe in production |
| 05:30.05 | momoterra | oh okay |
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| 05:30.47 | rjsalts | momoterra: it gives you flexibility in resizing filesystems |
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| 05:30.52 | momoterra | oh i see |
| 05:31.11 | momoterra | does people install desktop environment for like servers |
| 05:31.16 | momoterra | its checked off by default |
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| 05:31.29 | momoterra | i meant on |
| 05:31.59 | rjsalts | momoterra: I wouldn't recommend it, it adds more attack surface for little gain |
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| 05:32.13 | momoterra | oh okay |
| 05:32.15 | momoterra | thanks |
| 05:33.32 | rjsalts | the other thing lvm is useful for is block based backups |
| 05:34.12 | rjsalts | momoterra: i.e. you can use it to snapshot filesystem and then do dump to tape |
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| 05:35.14 | rjsalts | momoterra: although it might be easier to just do a file based backup |
| 05:35.23 | momoterra | i see |
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| 05:35.52 | MasterShake | hey guys i keep getting KEY_EXPIRED errors when apt-get update-ing, how can i fix this? |
| 05:36.01 | momoterra | why is sudo not working |
| 05:36.31 | MasterShake | r u asking me? |
| 05:36.44 | rjsalts | MasterShake: stop using the repo with the expired key |
| 05:36.58 | MasterShake | okay how can i adjust this? |
| 05:37.02 | MasterShake | im new =( |
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| 05:37.26 | momoterra | lol |
| 05:37.35 | rjsalts | MasterShake: edit /etc/apt/sources.list to remove the repo that's signed by the key |
| 05:38.04 | rjsalts | or you can ignore it |
| 05:38.20 | rjsalts | it just means that the packages will not be marked as trusted |
| 05:38.50 | sillysquirt | debhelper: debootstrap |
| 05:38.51 | rjsalts | so you don't get any guarantees on their provenance |
| 05:39.12 | rjsalts | momoterra: what does it say when sudo doesn't work? |
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| 05:39.29 | TyrfingMjolnir | When dist-upgrading to Jessie |
| 05:39.30 | TyrfingMjolnir | W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/tigon/tg3_tso5.bin for module tg3 |
| 05:39.31 | TyrfingMjolnir | W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/tigon/tg3_tso.bin for module tg3 |
| 05:39.32 | TyrfingMjolnir | W: Possible missing firmware /lib/firmware/tigon/tg3.bin for module tg3 |
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| 05:40.38 | momoterra | sudo not found |
| 05:40.40 | rjsalts | TyrfingMjolnir: install the firmware from non-free |
| 05:40.48 | MasterShake | apt-get install su? |
| 05:40.50 | rjsalts | momoterra: install sudo |
| 05:41.07 | momoterra | oh okay damn im such a noob |
| 05:41.27 | TyrfingMjolnir | rjsalts: That part I guessed |
| 05:41.32 | TyrfingMjolnir | But do I need this firmware? |
| 05:41.33 | MasterShake | there aren't any keys in my sources.list |
| 05:41.42 | TyrfingMjolnir | How can I check if I need this firmware? |
| 05:41.42 | MasterShake | i just see deb entries |
| 05:41.52 | momoterra | should i install program as root |
| 05:42.09 | MasterShake | and i kinda really need those entries |
| 05:42.14 | rjsalts | TyrfingMjolnir: it's for the tg3 network card, your network may not work without it |
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| 05:42.49 | TyrfingMjolnir | rjsalts: I |
| 05:42.55 | TyrfingMjolnir | 'm logged in over ssh now |
| 05:43.02 | TyrfingMjolnir | While doing this distupgrade |
| 05:43.45 | rjsalts | MasterShake: yeah, it's not exactly obvious, the keys are found with apt-key command. apt-key list and see which one has the key id mentioned |
| 05:44.07 | momoterra | Media change: please insert the disc labeled im getting that message trying to install something |
| 05:44.16 | momoterra | how can i change it to grab it from the net |
| 05:44.49 | rjsalts | TyrfingMjolnir: if you're upgrading from wheezy then the firmware should already have been in the non-free package |
| 05:45.17 | rjsalts | momoterra: I think you can just hit enter |
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| 05:45.28 | MasterShake | $apt-key list outputs " /usr/bin/apt-key: 216: /usr/bin/apt-key: gpg: Input/output error" |
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| 05:50.22 | momoterra | i think i a broken repository since i installed using the dvd |
| 05:50.26 | momoterra | i removed the dvd |
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| 05:52.51 | momoterra | im trying to install a package and its giving me |
| 05:52.56 | momoterra | E: Package 'libodbc1' has no installation candidate |
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| 05:57.40 | MasterShake | guys im getting an input/output error when i apt-key |
| 05:57.55 | MasterShake | idk how to fix it |
| 05:59.38 | momoterra | i think i figured it out the /etc/apt/sources.list that youget from the dvd install is screwy |
| 05:59.46 | momoterra | i have to edit it and set the sources |
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| 06:15.14 | WesterosCamping | I am low on disk space, where are some places I can cut bloat? |
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| 06:21.03 | htqp | sudo apt-get clean |
| 06:21.20 | htqp | $HOME/.cache |
| 06:21.25 | htqp | <PROTECTED> |
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| 06:21.48 | Broatcast | but dont delete all dirctorys in cache |
| 06:22.00 | Broatcast | some applications need the structure and index files |
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| 06:38.13 | keltim | yeah, dpkg in particular |
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| 06:40.50 | WesterosCamping | sudo apt-get clen returned nothing? |
| 06:41.26 | htqp | that's expected |
| 06:41.34 | Broatcast | it correct |
| 06:41.49 | Broatcast | just do its work and then exit |
| 06:42.07 | Broatcast | try df -h and see how many space its free now |
| 06:43.09 | darxmurf | hi all |
| 06:43.12 | Broatcast | apt-get clean and aptitude clean just delete all downloaded packages in /var/cache/apt/ and the rewrite the index |
| 06:43.49 | htqp | where's the index stored? |
| 06:44.01 | mjt | they both do the same, so once one deleted the packages, nothing's left to do for the other... |
| 06:44.13 | mjt | and there's no index of d/loaded pkgs |
| 06:44.26 | htqp | ok thx |
| 06:44.55 | mjt | (if you don't consider the directory index in the filesystem) |
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| 06:54.05 | darxmurf | I hate e2fsck on ext3... zZZzZzZ |
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| 07:00.50 | Broatcast | there is an index... |
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| 07:01.10 | Broatcast | # /var/cache/apt/pkgcache.bin |
| 07:01.29 | Broatcast | and /var/cache/apt/srcpgkcache.bin |
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| 07:02.05 | Broatcast | thats the reason why you should'nt delete the *.deb packages in the archives directory manualy |
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| 07:09.24 | themill | Broatcast: that's not what is actually in those files |
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| 07:18.16 | htqp | Broatcast: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReducingDiskFootprint "Apt stores two caches in /var/cache/apt/: srcpkgcache.bin is rather useless these days, and pkgcache.bin is only needed for faster lookups with apt-cache (software-center has its own cache). Removing those two buys 26 MB, for the price of apt-cache taking an extra two seconds for each lookup." |
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| 07:18.42 | htqp | (could not find doc for debian proper...) |
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| 07:23.16 | Broatcast | searched to for deb and only find bug reports ^^ |
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| 07:58.18 | ahop | Hi! what's the simplest way to have "python myscript.py" starting at linux startup, automatically? |
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| 08:00.54 | cnodell | ahop: Assuming you really mean startup and not login, probably using the init system. |
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| 08:01.49 | ahop | I try /etc/rc.local |
| 08:01.58 | ahop | is it a good idea? |
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| 08:02.29 | cnodell | Which version of Debian are you using? |
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| 08:04.30 | ahop | cnodell: RaspBian |
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| 08:08.11 | cnodell | ahop: I have no idea what init system Raspbian uses. If they use Systemd, you should do things the systemd way. Otherwise, I would create a script in /etc/init.d then link it to the various rcX.d folders to start or stopp depending on the runlevel. |
| 08:08.32 | cnodell | That is just my preference. Lots of ways to do this. |
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| 08:09.49 | plat_ | systemd way is so much easier once you figure out how it likes service files formatted |
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| 08:10.44 | cnodell | plat_, I still have mixed feelings - probably because systemd has not 'clicked' for me yet. |
| 08:11.02 | cnodell | I should really dedicate an afternoon to tinkering! |
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| 08:12.03 | plat_ | I've had the benefit of toying with it for at least the last three years, knowing systemd makes me better at my job since that's where the server world is headed |
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| 08:12.40 | MoonGNatRouth | hi, guys, I'm trying to configure bridge by brctl in my virtual linux machine. I've set up interfaces like here https://wiki.debian.org/BridgeNetworkConnections#Configuring_bridging_in_.2Fetc.2Fnetwork.2Finterfaces with static ip. restarted network, ifconfig shows right setting in br0, but when I try to ping 192.168.1.1 it types "destination host unreachable. What is wrong? Should I change some kernel options? |
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| 08:15.23 | plat_ | cnodell: protip, if you want to override a value in an already-established service file, you have to blank-out the variable then set it to what you want, in your own service file |
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| 08:15.45 | plat_ | I got stuck on that once, not entirely sure if it's a bug or not but that's just how I've been doing mine, for example bind |
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| 08:18.06 | zoobab | hi |
| 08:18.10 | ychaouche | Hello #debian |
| 08:18.14 | cnodell | plat_, thanks for the tip! |
| 08:18.26 | MoonGNatRouth | hi |
| 08:18.34 | ychaouche | I am pretty sure yesterday I created a directory in /var/run/, but today after reboot I didn't find it. |
| 08:18.50 | ychaouche | Is this intended behaviour of /var/run/ ? |
| 08:18.54 | zoobab | I am building an i386 kernel on a amd64 box with that command: |
| 08:19.01 | zoobab | make-kpkg -j5 --initrd --cross-compile - --arch i386 kernel-image kernel-headers |
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| 08:19.20 | zoobab | it builds a _amd64.deb package with a i386 kernel inside |
| 08:19.26 | plat_ | cnodell: this last post explains it somewhat better than me probably: https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?pid=1379005#p1379005 |
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| 08:19.30 | zoobab | any idea what went wrong? |
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| 08:19.49 | ychaouche | Is my web server required to recreate the directory at each restart ? (check for its existence before of course). |
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| 08:21.04 | plat_ | cnodell: so I guess it's not a bug, it's a feature, literally, ha |
| 08:21.13 | plat_ | TIL |
| 08:21.24 | plat_ | glad I searched again |
| 08:21.25 | cnodell | From what I recall, /var/run/ contains info since last boot. I wouldn't be surprised if it was wiped on restart. |
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| 08:22.58 | plat_ | and yea /var/run is wiped after reboot |
| 08:23.04 | cnodell | plat_, I would never have expected that! |
| 08:23.06 | plat_ | everything recreates their pidfiles in there |
| 08:23.57 | plat_ | and sockets, and locks |
| 08:24.01 | plat_ | oh my |
| 08:26.47 | ychaouche | ok thanks |
| 08:27.08 | ychaouche | I'll have to add some more code logic then. |
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| 08:27.32 | SPF | what's the difference between AllowTcpForwarding and AllowAgentForwarding in sshd configuration? |
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| 08:28.27 | jelly | SPF: the latter concerns only the ssh-agent socket |
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| 09:04.27 | hipodilski | w |
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| 09:31.52 | _taw_ | is there already a package for https://github.com/miloyip/rapidjson or does it make sense to create one? |
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| 09:33.36 | themill | ,i rapidjson-dev sid |
| 09:33.37 | judd | Package rapidjson-dev (libdevel, optional) in sid/i386: fast JSON parser/generator for C++ with SAX/DOM style API. Version: 0.12~git20141031-1; Size: 53.3k; Installed: 362k; Homepage: https://miloyip.github.io/rapidjson |
| 09:33.39 | themill | _taw_: ^^ |
| 09:35.38 | _taw_ | judd, themill, thanks, will try |
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| 09:59.44 | ws2k3 | hello i just moved a debian vm from vmware to xen but now it complains that it cannot find /dev/sda1(this is correct) its not called /dev/xvda1 how do i tell debian to use /dev/xvda1 instead of /dev/sda1? |
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| 10:04.06 | fraff | ws2k3: see /etc/fstab |
| 10:04.25 | ws2k3 | fraff can i do this from busybox? |
| 10:04.34 | ws2k3 | cause pico nano and vi all say command not found |
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| 10:05.15 | fraff | ws2k3: maybe, but you should mount -o loop /path/to/your/disk.img /mnt and edit from /mnt/etc/fstab |
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| 10:06.02 | fraff | ws2k3: it also might be possible to tell xen to present disk image as /dev/sda but I'm not sure |
| 10:06.04 | ws2k3 | fraff i now mounted the disk to /mnt and i am now seeing my fstab(i used cat) |
| 10:06.33 | ws2k3 | but what editor can i use to change the fstab pico nano and vi are not found in busybox |
| 10:07.37 | fraff | ws2k3: I was not talking about busybox ... on xen machine, mount disk image to /mnt and edit fstab |
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| 10:14.24 | TomyWork | A prerm scriptlet I wrote returned exit status 128 when the customer updated the package. It's rather short and basically all it does is stop a service through invoke-rc.d. I also use dh_stop. Can somebody enlighten me about what's going on? |
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| 10:17.59 | Zitter | hi, I'm following this guide: https://wiki.debian.org/it/iPhone but when I try to add my user to group "fuse" Debian says that "usermod: group 'fuse' does not exist'. How to add fuse group? I have these pkgs installed: exfat-fuse, fuse, gcfs-fuse and libfuse2 |
| 10:18.08 | fraff | TomyWork: did you "set -x" at the begining of the script to see what's going on ? |
| 10:19.28 | fraff | Zitter: package fuse should haved created it, see /var/lib/dpkg/info/fuse.postinst |
| 10:20.42 | otyugh | something like groupadd fuse ? >.> |
| 10:21.21 | Zitter | nope :/ |
| 10:21.55 | Zitter | no "groupadd fuse" found in /var/lib/dpkg/info/fuse.postinst |
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| 10:22.13 | ws2k3 | fraff i changed /dev/sda1 to /dev/xvda1 but at boot it still try's to use /dev/sda1 |
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| 10:25.46 | fraff | ws2k3: hope you didn't modified fstab of xen machine instead of virtual machine's :) |
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| 10:25.56 | fraff | ws2k3: what's see error message ? |
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| 10:26.53 | ws2k3 | the alert is the same ALERT cannot find /dev/sda1 |
| 10:27.17 | ws2k3 | no i changed the right file i was able to change fstab from inside de vm(using busybox) i changes fstab by using sed |
| 10:27.24 | ws2k3 | sed -i |
| 10:27.41 | ws2k3 | sed -i '/s/sda1/xvda1' fstab |
| 10:28.05 | ws2k3 | i verifyd with cat if my fstab is correctly now and it is |
| 10:28.51 | devweasel | ws2k3: chances are, there is still a root=/dev/sda1 directive within your grub config; make sure to change this as well. |
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| 10:30.39 | fraff | devweasel: that's a xen VM, it should'nt use grub |
| 10:32.51 | DevAntoine | hi |
| 10:33.09 | DevAntoine | I've got more than 60 apache process and growing |
| 10:33.32 | Vroomfon1el | how many apache processes are you expecting to have? |
| 10:33.39 | DevAntoine | yesterday I had to restart apache because it wasn't responding and it was taking more than 1.5Gb |
| 10:33.56 | DevAntoine | I never had issues like this in years on that machine |
| 10:34.03 | devweasel | fraff: normally it shouldn't yes, but the mentioned "busybox" shell sounds very much like the initrd rescue system, *before* fstab is read. |
| 10:34.11 | Vroomfon1el | you've set an appropriate process limit in the Apache config? |
| 10:34.29 | DevAntoine | Vroomfon1el: I don't know, I can't remember seeing so many of them |
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| 10:34.39 | DevAntoine | Vroomfon1el: nop |
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| 10:34.44 | Vroomfon1el | DevAntoine: then set one :) |
| 10:35.22 | DevAntoine | and netstat worries me. There is 2 ips with more than 20 connections on my server |
| 10:35.55 | DevAntoine | well, 3 ip actually |
| 10:36.26 | Vroomfon1el | DevAntoine: you can limit the number of processes via the MaxClients directive in the Apache configuraiton file |
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| 10:36.46 | Vroomfon1el | and lots of connections is fairly normal for some browsers. Chrome in particular tends to create a lot. |
| 10:36.54 | jelly | DevAntoine: use lsof to see what files each processes keeps open. Use access logs to see if there's actual traffic and whether it looks legit |
| 10:37.16 | DevAntoine | Vroomfon1el: it's the same ips for days oO |
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| 10:37.34 | fraff | ws2k3: can you paste your /etc/xen/your-vm.cfg ? |
| 10:37.54 | DevAntoine | in syslog I've got lot of lines like this: Mar 10 11:35:09 lolilolbox suhosin[2073]: ALERT - script tried to increase memory_limit to 268435456 bytes which is above the allowed value (attacker '62.210.73.64', file '/home/koskoz/sd/blog/wp-content/plugins/all-in-one-seo-pack/all_in_one_seo_pack.php', line 123) |
| 10:38.02 | Bremsstrahlung | What's the better way to install Debian wheezy with the lxde desktop environment? From http://lxde.org/ with their iso, or https://www.debian.org/CD/netinst/ and then running the commands here: https://wiki.debian.org/LXDE ? |
| 10:38.10 | DevAntoine | and like this: Mar 10 11:35:24 lolilolbox kernel: [2316807.978521] iptables denied: IN=eth0 OUT= MAC=ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:ff:c8:0a:a9:c8:f1:ff:08:00 SRC=195.154.109.148 DST=195.154.109.255 LEN=61 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=43352 DF PROTO=UDP SPT=33445 DPT=33445 LEN=41 |
| 10:38.42 | ws2k3 | fraff which config do you mean exacly? |
| 10:39.24 | waqstar | I've just written a bash start/stop script for my tool. However I want to be able to use systemctl start ... Is there a way I can call my start script with the new systemd tool? If what do I have to do to make my script work here? |
| 10:40.31 | otyugh | Bremsstrahlung: depends if you want to install lxde by yourself from scratch or just get lxde fast and all. |
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| 10:41.18 | Vroomfon1el | DevAntoine: the suhosin alert might just be because the script is misbehaving rather than being due to an actual attack |
| 10:41.23 | fraff | ws2k3: the configuration of your xen VM, the one in /etc/xen/something.cfg |
| 10:41.31 | Bremsstrahlung | otyugh: But the end result will be the same? |
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| 10:43.05 | otyugh | I guess there is some tweaking added in the lxde edition. From what I see of the wiki, it's quite of a minimalist setup. Thought it's good too. Depends if you want a minimalist setup or a good to go one. |
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| 10:43.57 | otyugh | I wonder if there is a changelog in the lxde edition |
| 10:44.05 | ws2k3 | so i need to look for that config on my xenserver? |
| 10:44.22 | Bremsstrahlung | otyugh: I see. Which is the minimalist edition, the one from Debian and running the commands? |
| 10:44.42 | Hallo32 | Bremsstrahlung: The debian version could included patches/fixes for Debian which are not in the source of the lxde page. |
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| 10:45.13 | Bremsstrahlung | Hallo32: Good point. |
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| 10:46.12 | Bremsstrahlung | Hm, I wonder what desktop manager it'll use. |
| 10:46.51 | Hallo32 | Bremsstrahlung: If you take the source from the lxde page, you have also to monitoring it for security holes. |
| 10:46.52 | ws2k3 | fraff on my xenserver i do not have such config |
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| 10:47.32 | fraff | ws2k3: how do your start your VM then ? |
| 10:47.43 | Bremsstrahlung | Hallo32: I see. |
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| 10:48.03 | ws2k3 | by using xencenter |
| 10:48.25 | ws2k3 | i did not install xen on debian i am running xenserver(OS) |
| 10:49.09 | jelly | Bremsstrahlung: the lxde.org page seems to link to (an older version of) debian's own installers |
| 10:49.20 | Bremsstrahlung | jelly: Interesting. |
| 10:49.25 | Bremsstrahlung | I'll take that into account. |
| 10:50.08 | jelly | so you might just go and use 7.8 d-i instead of 7.6 linked there |
| 10:50.29 | Bremsstrahlung | And 7.8 d-i is the current stable netinstall? |
| 10:50.41 | jelly | yes |
| 10:50.44 | Bremsstrahlung | OK, cool beans. |
| 10:51.00 | jelly | !install lxde |
| 10:51.01 | dpkg | To install <LXDE> on established systems, ask me about <install x>, then: «aptitude install lxde». To install using Debian-Installer (if not using LXDE CD-1): from the Installer boot menu, select "Advanced options > Alternative desktop environments > LXDE > Install". |
| 10:51.20 | Bremsstrahlung | Ahhhh, I see. So there's something in the advanced options. |
| 10:51.22 | Bremsstrahlung | Gotcha. |
| 10:51.28 | Bremsstrahlung | Will remember that. |
| 10:51.42 | Bremsstrahlung | That way I don't have to tinker with the command line later to install it. |
| 10:51.55 | DevAntoine | Vroomfon1el: I've got lot of lines like the one with the memory limit, from lot of ips, plus, iptables is flooding syslog |
| 10:52.02 | Bremsstrahlung | A question though; what default display manager does that option install? |
| 10:52.09 | Bremsstrahlung | I may guess LightDM, though I am not sure. |
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| 10:53.36 | bubbleguN | hey |
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| 10:53.42 | bubbleguN | Hey! all :) |
| 10:53.46 | Bremsstrahlung | Hi. |
| 10:53.57 | bubbleguN | Can someone help me installing roccat-tools , plz. |
| 10:54.22 | Vroomfon1el | DevAntoine: is the script doing an "ini_set('memory_limit', ..." ? |
| 10:54.31 | Bremsstrahlung | bubbleguN: Help in which way? Are you getting an error trying to do it? See /topic :) |
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| 10:55.30 | fraff | ws2k3: ha, I don't know then, sorry |
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| 10:55.59 | bubbleguN | btw, Bremsstrahlung .. i use deb reps ... here are the errors, http://pastebin.com/LMmx0j3r |
| 10:56.02 | Vroomfon1el | DevAntoine: anyway if you set your MaxClients a bit lower it should help prevent your server getting overwhelmed. |
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| 10:56.19 | DevAntoine | Vroomfon1el: yep |
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| 10:57.13 | Vroomfon1el | DevAntoine: well that's what the alert is about, then. If the script's doing that and it's asking for more memory than you've allowed via your PHP configuration, suhosin will warn you. It's not necessarily an attack. |
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| 10:58.10 | otyugh | I'm wondering : when wayland will be installed everywhere now ? |
| 10:58.33 | otyugh | We heard a lot of it a year ago, and I still see we use Xorg everywhere |
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| 11:01.49 | DevAntoine | Vroomfon1el: hum, if I set the maxclient to a lower value when the limit is reached users will have apache errors (which is better than always failling, I agree). It's really weird with 2gb of ram and such low trafic |
| 11:01.58 | devweasel | ws2k3: is this plain XEN or Citrix XenServer? |
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| 11:04.33 | _bt | hello - is there a place i can see which patches are applied to a package? (9.8.4.dfsg.P1-6+nmu2+deb7u) - i'm looking specifically to see if this package supports response rate limiting |
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| 11:04.49 | _bt | oops, thats bind9 :) |
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| 11:05.41 | towo^work | _bt, apt-get source the package, then you see the used patches |
| 11:06.00 | ws2k3 | fraff maby i can boot a live cd mount my disk and run update-grub |
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| 11:07.24 | DevAntoine | Vroomfon1el: hum, I've got KeepAlive set to On |
| 11:07.28 | DevAntoine | maybe it's that |
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| 11:07.33 | _bt | towo^work: thank you |
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| 11:08.04 | bubbleguN | <PROTECTED> |
| 11:08.32 | fraff | ws2k3: you mean a live debian instead of xencenter ? maybe |
| 11:09.20 | bubbleguN | fraff, download also os-prober |
| 11:09.30 | trysten | what sources ~/.profile? when i log in wish ssh, it does not seem to get evaled |
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| 11:09.55 | colp2 | patch-tracker.debian.org is down, which breaks the link "Debian patch tracker" on packages.debian.org/bar What is the best place to report this problem? |
| 11:10.09 | ws2k3 | fraff i found that my /boot/grub/grub.cfg still contained root=/dev/sda1 i changed this to root=/dev/xvda1 do i need to run update-grub now? or is that not neccesery? |
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| 11:11.59 | hsr | so guys |
| 11:12.15 | hsr | I have sudo access but the root is blocked from logging in |
| 11:12.28 | bubbleguN | sudo su - |
| 11:12.29 | bubbleguN | visudo |
| 11:12.31 | colp2 | ws2k3, update-grub essentially regenerates and overwrites grub.cfg from scratch |
| 11:12.31 | hsr | but the thing is, I can't find sudo |
| 11:12.44 | bubbleguN | add line above root equal to root but with your user name |
| 11:12.58 | hsr | for that you need root/sudo access right? |
| 11:13.04 | bubbleguN | nop |
| 11:13.07 | bubbleguN | su - |
| 11:13.07 | bubbleguN | only |
| 11:13.16 | colp2 | hsr, sudo su -l spawns a root login shell |
| 11:13.28 | bubbleguN | l stand for login |
| 11:13.32 | hsr | oh alright |
| 11:13.37 | hsr | so we can use password? |
| 11:13.47 | fraff | ws2k3: yes, but you'll propably need no mount proc and dev for that |
| 11:14.10 | hsr | god my root password is a bitch |
| 11:14.32 | d1b | you can enable sudo without a password as well, if you so wish. |
| 11:14.39 | bubbleguN | hsr, i have a macro keyboard and M1 stand for root passwd, M2 , stand for user pass ! etc.. |
| 11:14.48 | bubbleguN | i just press it :P |
| 11:14.51 | hsr | ahaha |
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| 11:15.18 | hsr | I use lastpass for the desktop so my memory skills are not that great |
| 11:16.14 | hsr | colp2, noticed something btw |
| 11:16.28 | hsr | sudo su -l requires sudo which I dont have |
| 11:16.33 | hsr | (the binary) |
| 11:16.37 | hsr | hehe |
| 11:17.23 | colp2 | su -l then? this will require root password instead (as opposed to non-root-user password) |
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| 11:18.07 | hsr | you saved a couple of hours from a man's life |
| 11:18.11 | hsr | it worked like a charm |
| 11:18.18 | hsr | thxboise |
| 11:18.27 | colp2 | you may want to apt-get install sudo now ;) |
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| 11:18.39 | hsr | oh yeah :D |
| 11:18.51 | hsr | this is new to me |
| 11:19.00 | hsr | never thought VPSes came without sudo |
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| 11:20.52 | hsr | p.s. ##linux fails at verifying webchat logged in users |
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| 11:21.20 | colp2 | hsr, you may want to report that to the network tech support #freenode |
| 11:21.36 | hsr | oh noes they don't like me at #freenode |
| 11:22.12 | hsr | anyways thanks everyone |
| 11:22.46 | ws2k3 | fraff got it fixed i changed the grub.cfg then rebooten then it did a fsck and booted into my os then i could do a update-grub(just to make sure) and reboot again so its working now thanks |
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| 11:24.40 | ntz | hello |
| 11:24.51 | ntz | stupid Q: .. I modified etc/security/access.conf (added ``-:root:ALL EXCEPT localhost'') but I can still login via ssh from remote host .. what do I do wrong please ? |
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| 11:26.52 | fraff | ws2k3: glad I could help |
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| 11:28.08 | colp2 | ntz, no idea, but the man page says 'scanned for the FIRST entry that matches'... is it the first entry? |
| 11:28.22 | ntz | yes, first and only entry :) |
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| 11:30.56 | tobis | Hi there |
| 11:32.09 | bubbleguN | Can i haz helps plz :P , http://pastebin.com/LMmx0j3r .... Im using debian reps , but the problem is i cant compile well the roccat-tools ! im missing something in cmake canberra |
| 11:32.26 | tobis | I have an issue with some bash script when trying to inject a function ( with declare or typeset ) in a ssh hop of 2 servers, if anyone here have some knowledge about this |
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| 11:34.58 | newbieAlert | hey whats the way to get the sectors of file ?? |
| 11:35.18 | bubbleguN | ln --sectors ?:P |
| 11:35.25 | hsr | ntz: have you restarted the sshd service? |
| 11:35.29 | ntz | yes |
| 11:35.40 | bubbleguN | just kiddin newbieAlert :) |
| 11:35.46 | ntz | I did this I think 10 years ago ...... I must miss something |
| 11:36.20 | newbieAlert | bubbleguN tracks cylinder sectors. |
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| 11:37.37 | hsr | wait what |
| 11:37.46 | hsr | you appended that line 10 years ago? |
| 11:38.44 | hsr | + : root : 127.0.0.1 localhost |
| 11:38.48 | hsr | that should do |
| 11:39.28 | hsr | what you are trying to do is restrict all traffic from localhost and allow everyone else |
| 11:39.39 | hsr | "all except localhost" |
| 11:39.41 | themill | ntz: which release of debian? |
| 11:40.10 | ntz | 7.8 |
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| 11:40.56 | hsr | okay I might not have hit puberty when it was 7.8 |
| 11:40.59 | hsr | peace out |
| 11:41.00 | Eduard_Munteanu | What kernel package do I need for Debian on armel? |
| 11:41.03 | ntz | hsr: yes, exactly ... I want to keep PermitRootLogin yes but allow to login to the root only fromn localhost |
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| 11:42.15 | hsr | what purpose if I may ask? |
| 11:42.18 | rjsalts | ntz: any particular form of root login, e.g. including password? |
| 11:42.31 | hsr | as I discovered earlier you can get root shell via su -l |
| 11:42.35 | hsr | no need to ssh as host |
| 11:42.57 | ntz | rjsalts: only keys are allowed |
| 11:42.57 | hsr | *at localhost |
| 11:43.28 | hsr | oh I see |
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| 11:43.49 | bubbleguN | guys what repository gives us, the ROCCAT-TOOLS ? |
| 11:43.51 | rjsalts | So just go PermitRootLogin without-password |
| 11:44.13 | hsr | http://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/53306/how-to-limit-ssh-access-for-localhost-only |
| 11:44.23 | hsr | AllowUsers root@localhost |
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| 11:45.01 | lyft | Hi, I need to install gcc-4.8-plugin-dev and the latest stable version on wheezy is 4.7. I need 4.8 version because that requires mSIGNA bitcoin wallet. This information I get from terminal: E: Unable to locate package gcc-4.8-plugin-dev E: Couldn't find any package by regex 'gcc-4.8-plugin-dev' |
| 11:46.36 | hsr | oh crap I just had an epiphany bubbleguN |
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| 11:46.52 | bubbleguN | hsr ? |
| 11:47.02 | hsr | put user's public key as root's authorized_host |
| 11:47.09 | hsr | easy root shell |
| 11:47.12 | hsr | :3 |
| 11:47.18 | bubbleguN | can i pm you hsr ? |
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| 11:48.09 | hsr | hope it is not for calling my mum :P sure |
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| 11:49.05 | bubbleguN | hehe |
| 11:49.09 | bubbleguN | :P |
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| 11:53.33 | TomyWork | <fraff> TomyWork: did you "set -x" at the begining of the script to see what's going on ? |
| 11:53.46 | TomyWork | fraff i would, but I can't reproduce the issue |
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| 11:54.02 | TomyWork | Original question was: A prerm scriptlet I wrote returned exit status 128 when the customer updated the package. It's rather short and basically all it does is stop a service through invoke-rc.d. I also use dh_stop. Can somebody enlighten me about what's going on? |
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| 11:58.44 | g00se | Can anyone using Icedove confirm that Attachment Status has now disappeared from IMAP searches for some reason? |
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| 12:04.09 | bubbleguN | Wich repository of debian, contains roccat-tools ? |
| 12:04.31 | bazhang | ,v roccat-tools |
| 12:04.32 | judd | No package named 'roccat-tools' was found in i386. |
| 12:04.41 | jelly | "none" |
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| 12:04.51 | bubbleguN | and about this one |
| 12:05.28 | bubbleguN | there is a guy called, berfenger ,, that did this for ubuntu ppa:berfenger/roccat |
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| 12:05.47 | bubbleguN | can i do the same in debian using ppa or what is it called |
| 12:06.08 | jelly | not really, the ppa infrastructure only has builders for ubuntu releases |
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| 12:06.25 | bubbleguN | yeh i tought so |
| 12:06.36 | bubbleguN | jelly could you help me plz ? |
| 12:06.43 | Hallo32 | bubbleguN: get the source and build it. |
| 12:06.48 | bubbleguN | to see what i am doing wrong in compiling process |
| 12:06.50 | jelly | bubbleguN: help with what? |
| 12:07.02 | bubbleguN | http://pastebin.com/LMmx0j3r |
| 12:07.07 | bubbleguN | I am doing that allready ! |
| 12:07.10 | bubbleguN | :P |
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| 12:08.04 | jelly | bubbleguN: note that knoppix isn't debian, I'm not sure this is the right place to ask |
| 12:08.21 | bubbleguN | yeh but #coders is empty |
| 12:08.22 | bubbleguN | atm |
| 12:08.31 | bubbleguN | so. .im trying it here |
| 12:08.33 | bazhang | try #knoppix |
| 12:08.37 | bubbleguN | empty as well |
| 12:08.38 | bubbleguN | :D |
| 12:08.57 | bazhang | no its not |
| 12:09.24 | jelly | bubbleguN: be patient. There's also ##linux for general linux queries |
| 12:09.34 | bubbleguN | oh boy |
| 12:09.35 | bubbleguN | :D |
| 12:09.39 | bubbleguN | i forgot that one :P |
| 12:09.40 | bubbleguN | tks |
| 12:09.49 | ChrisH | bubbleguN: you need the -dev packages normally to build using cmake and pkgconfig |
| 12:10.02 | bubbleguN | cmake-dev !? |
| 12:10.03 | bubbleguN | :P |
| 12:10.35 | ChrisH | bubbleguN: no. libcanberra-dev and all the other stuff you did get |
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| 12:11.11 | jelly | bubbleguN: if, for example, your build process complained about not being able to find something called CANBERRA, and if you were using Debian, you'd try to find it using something like "apt-cache search canberra dev" |
| 12:11.30 | bubbleguN | yeah |
| 12:11.35 | bubbleguN | here is the same |
| 12:11.39 | jelly | but since you're using a derivative, this channel is the wrong place to ask |
| 12:11.49 | jelly | !knoppix |
| 12:11.49 | dpkg | Knoppix is _not_ Debian. Seek Knoppix help in freenode's #knoppix. Knoppix is a live CD distribution which is <based on Debian>, useful as a rescue CD, to test hardware, and for situations where you have access to a computer but it isn't Debian. http://www.knoppix.org/ unofficial: http://Debian-knoppix.alioth.Debian.org/ <Debian-live> is the Debian equivalent for publishing live systems. |
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| 12:13.26 | bubbleguN | my knoppix, you dont ever talk bad about my knoppix :'#( |
| 12:13.39 | bubbleguN | understood ! :]]]] |
| 12:13.59 | bubbleguN | its not a rescue cd its a imba cd to snort cocaine |
| 12:14.04 | bubbleguN | AHAHAHAHA |
| 12:14.26 | hsr | ntz: so did it work? |
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| 12:16.06 | ntz | hsr: minute ... I started doing something else |
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| 12:22.36 | Che-Anarc | Trying to configure my network - I've been given 1x Gateway IP & 2x Router IP's - do I add "post-up route add x.x.x.x dev eth0" twice? I cant seem to ping outside world. |
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| 12:25.25 | foreverska | Debian appears to be ignoring my inittab... I'm trying to auto login and it never does. Comment out all getty lines and it starts like normal. |
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| 12:26.48 | Brigo | foreverska, whezzy or jessie? |
| 12:26.54 | foreverska | Jessie |
| 12:26.56 | ntz | hsr: well, perhaps it works but it's not the "correct" setup .. I checked other servers set like this and nowhere is allowing root this way |
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| 12:27.22 | Brigo | foreverska, if you are using systemd, it ignores inittab at all :) |
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| 12:27.34 | foreverska | -.- oh geeze... |
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| 12:28.59 | bubbleguN | add-apt-repository |
| 12:29.03 | bubbleguN | dont work , why? |
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| 12:29.17 | bubbleguN | :) |
| 12:29.28 | jelly | bubbleguN: ask the knoppix people. |
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| 12:29.54 | bubbleguN | ok dude cya |
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| 12:30.10 | cnodell | Che-Anarc: Is this computer acting as a router or a host? |
| 12:31.13 | Che-Anarc | cnodell, as a host. |
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| 12:32.17 | foreverska | Well that worked, thanks Brigo |
| 12:32.28 | Brigo | foreverska, np :) |
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| 12:33.03 | avrdude | when running as root, my LD_LIBRARY_PATH variable is reset |
| 12:33.10 | avrdude | even though i am telling it not to |
| 12:33.14 | avrdude | any fixes? |
| 12:33.25 | themill | you'd need to explain what you're actually doing |
| 12:33.49 | avrdude | i am running a python script with sudo, and it relies on some environment variables to work |
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| 12:34.01 | themill | ewww |
| 12:34.03 | avrdude | but it fails, because LD_LIBRARY_PATH isnt set when running as root |
| 12:34.19 | themill | sudo eats crap like that (if you're relying on that, you've already lost) |
| 12:34.36 | avrdude | well, any help would be appreciated |
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| 12:34.51 | avrdude | right now i have to login as root, export the variable, then start my script |
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| 12:34.55 | avrdude | but i dont like doing that |
| 12:35.15 | themill | why do you need to set LD_LIBRARY_PATH? |
| 12:35.26 | avrdude | because without it, my python script fails |
| 12:35.33 | themill | ... |
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| 12:35.43 | avrdude | what |
| 12:36.07 | colp2 | avrdude, meta.stackexchange.com/q/66377 |
| 12:36.12 | themill | please try to actually offer useful information. This is currently like a trip the dentist. |
| 12:36.21 | colp2 | please paste.debian.org the script and tell us the exact error message |
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| 12:37.09 | hsr | how do you trip the dentist? |
| 12:37.22 | hsr | chemically or using a string? |
| 12:37.24 | themill | by sticking out my foot |
| 12:37.29 | hsr | aah |
| 12:37.30 | hsr | touche |
| 12:38.50 | avrdude | my script: http://pastebin.com/Xnzqbakp my output: http://pastebin.com/pFXCTKhx and as i said, if i login as root and export LD_LIBRARY_PATH, then the script works |
| 12:39.04 | avrdude | but i would like to just "sudo python3 script.py" |
| 12:39.43 | themill | /usr/local/lib? There is nothing good about where this is going |
| 12:39.44 | avrdude | i have tried sudo -E but it wont work |
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| 12:40.20 | avrdude | i just want to permanently set this variable in the root user, and i have tried several things, and i would really appreciate some help |
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| 12:42.57 | Che-Anarc | cnodell, I'm just trying to get net connectivity beyond the gateway & router-1 & router-2 which I can ping... but I cant seem to get outside that. |
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| 12:45.48 | avrdude | so, what, you guys gave up? |
| 12:45.50 | colp2 | avrdude, why aren't you using gstreamer1.0-plugins-* from the repo? |
| 12:46.09 | avrdude | i had to compile them myself for raspbian |
| 12:46.22 | themill | avrdude: this is #debian ... |
| 12:46.24 | colp2 | wait, you are on raspbian? |
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| 12:46.38 | avrdude | also, someone just told me LD_LIBRARY_PATH cant be set because of security issues |
| 12:46.59 | otyugh | hey there. I was wondering if it was a myth or not that a defective hard drive could lead the system to slow down. I call defective a technical reason of course, not talking of fragmentation issues. |
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| 12:47.10 | avrdude | isnt raspbian and debian basically the same? |
| 12:47.19 | themill | avrdude: no |
| 12:47.24 | avrdude | ._. |
| 12:47.25 | colp2 | ask to channel #raspbian |
| 12:47.51 | themill | avrdude: gstreamer1.0-plugins-good for instance exists in debian. |
| 12:48.19 | otyugh | Because my logic was telling me a defective HDD was giving fatal bug warnings right away, not just slowing stuff. |
| 12:48.46 | avrdude | right, but how does that matter? surely its possible to do what i am trying to do? i just want to set this one little variable so i can run my script as sudo.. |
| 12:48.55 | jelly | otyugh: it's possible alirght |
| 12:48.58 | cnodell | Che-Anarc: For this you just need your host's IP, Subnet Mask and your gateway ip. Your gateway IP should be in the same subnet as your host's IP. |
| 12:49.24 | cnodell | Che-Anarc: Are you using a gui like Network Manager? |
| 12:49.24 | otyugh | jelly: do you have some text about that, or a rationnal explanation ? |
| 12:49.38 | jelly | otyugh: just anecdotal observation |
| 12:49.55 | otyugh | hell for rationnality é_è |
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| 12:50.25 | Che-Anarc | cnodell, no CLI only - I have gateway IP defined but also there are router-1 & router-2 in the details I've been given which I think are the intended outbound routes? |
| 12:50.29 | jelly | otyugh: I prefer observing what happens instead of rationalizing it out :-] |
| 12:50.51 | otyugh | The twi us good to me |
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| 12:51.21 | otyugh | Computing is without theory is vodoo art. |
| 12:51.25 | cnodell | Che-Anarc: A host has no use for any router IPs aside from their gateway. Could these be DNS servers? |
| 12:51.28 | otyugh | -is |
| 12:51.38 | jelly | otyugh: but here: SATA controllers and drivers can take a _lot_ of time retrying to read a marginal block |
| 12:52.02 | otyugh | why ? |
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| 12:52.23 | cnodell | Che-Anarc: You set your hosts' IP, netmask and gateway like this: https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#Configuring_the_interface_manually |
| 12:52.35 | jelly | otyugh: that's a good question for hdd firmware devs |
| 12:52.45 | sqwk | Having some trouble with network/interfaces and wpa_supplicantâwhat am I missing to make wlan0 automatically connect? http://pastie.org/10016104 |
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| 12:53.41 | cnodell | Che-Anarc: Then you specify your DNS servers in your resolve.conf like this: https://wiki.debian.org/NetworkConfiguration#Defining_the_.28DNS.29_Nameservers |
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| 12:54.17 | jelly | otyugh: this was a huge problem when you use consumer devices with such firmware in raid arrays. Thus http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Error_recovery_control got introduced |
| 12:54.22 | Che-Anarc | cnodell, I dont think they are DNS - this is IPv6 setup and its a strange bonded eth0 & eth1 I have so I'm defining all IP's etc via bond0 - could it be that the Router-1 & Router-2 are applicable in this context? |
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| 12:57.02 | g00se | Can anyone using Icedove confirm that Attachment Status has now disappeared from IMAP searches for some reason? |
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| 13:07.41 | cnodell | Che-Anarc: Sorry, I have never set this up before. The ipv4 example here (https://wiki.debian.org/Bonding) suggests that you still only need a host IP, netmask, default gateway and DNS servers IPs. I imagine that for ipv6 you just need to change "inet" to "inet6", and provide your IPV6 address details for address, netmask and gateway. You might want to use one of the balance modes instead of active-backup |
| 13:08.01 | Che-Anarc | cnodell, thanks its ok I got it going. |
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| 13:08.37 | cnodell | Che-Anarc: Good to hear! What were those two router addresses for anyways? |
| 13:09.04 | Che-Anarc | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:58.55 | Jonuz | How do I get rid of this message? http://i.imgur.com/l47JneH.png |
| 13:59.27 | ntz | Jonuz: omg |
| 13:59.35 | ntz | I suggest you to cut the power cable :D |
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| 14:00.19 | Jonuz | why |
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| 14:00.32 | ChrisH | Jonuz: clean up your disk. |
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| 14:00.56 | Jonuz | ChrisH: I did but that message wont appear and its really annoying |
| 14:01.22 | ntz | Jonuz: pastebin please `df -h' |
| 14:01.44 | otyugh | ncdu is an awesome light tool to detect heavy crap |
| 14:01.59 | Jonuz | http://pastebin.com/5wjLz8xP |
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| 14:02.42 | ChrisH | Jonuz: check line 1 and tell me again you did clean up the disk. |
| 14:02.49 | otyugh | :p |
| 14:03.58 | Jonuz | I removed stuff what I just downloaded, IMO I should have ~1gig free space now |
| 14:04.10 | Jonuz | And I assume if I logout and come back I wont see that anymore |
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| 14:04.16 | Jonuz | But I dont want to do that |
| 14:04.25 | Jonuz | I want that just disappear |
| 14:04.30 | ntz | they might be still in trash |
| 14:04.50 | ntz | you 100% in root filesystem |
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| 14:05.04 | ntz | it's wrong ... you should have separate /home partition |
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| 14:05.10 | ntz | **you have 100% |
| 14:05.12 | Jonuz | ntz: nope, i dont have |
| 14:05.22 | ntz | Jonuz: yes, you do ... |
| 14:05.30 | ntz | /dev/sda1 141G 133G 902M 100% / |
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| 14:05.46 | Jonuz | root and home is in same partition |
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| 14:06.08 | ntz | and that's wrong .. and your "rootfs" is 100% .. anything still unclear ? |
| 14:06.16 | ntz | **100% full |
| 14:06.33 | Jonuz | well I have no idea whats going on then, maybe I broke somethinbg |
| 14:06.34 | ntz | sorry, not sure why, but having friday typing syndrome today already |
| 14:06.35 | Jonuz | something |
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| 14:07.05 | Jonuz | by "wrong" do you mean it should not be done like that? |
| 14:07.16 | Brigo | Jonuz, what filesystem are you using? |
| 14:07.17 | ntz | Jonuz: again, check please trashbins ... kde and gnome use different places for trashbin |
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| 14:07.37 | Jonuz | gparted says that there should be 8gig free |
| 14:07.48 | Jonuz | Brigo: ext4 |
| 14:08.14 | ntz | Jonuz: so you perhaps deleted some file which was used by some process and it's still mapped |
| 14:08.18 | Jonuz | ah, fuck it, i will just logout and come back |
| 14:08.22 | cnodell | ntz: Start in / and run "du -hs" to see what directories are largest. "cd" into these directories and run "du -hs" again and again until you have tracked down where all that data is being stored... When you find the data, you can clean it our using rm (if it is in your home directory). If it is somewhere else (like the apt cache) there are commands for clearing that too. |
| 14:08.32 | ntz | cnodell: ^^ not me ;) |
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| 14:09.42 | cnodell | sorry "du -hs *" |
| 14:10.51 | Jonuz | aands its gone |
| 14:10.53 | Jonuz | aand* |
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| 14:26.17 | Iuz | where is x-ttcidfont-conf on wheezy? |
| 14:26.32 | petn-randall | ,v x-ttcidfont-conf |
| 14:26.33 | judd | Package: x-ttcidfont-conf on i386 -- squeeze: 32 |
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| 14:26.41 | petn-randall | Iuz: It's not in wheezy. |
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| 14:32.15 | Iuz | petn-randall: is there a place where I can see why it was deprecated? |
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| 14:37.08 | ahop | any idea Iuz? |
| 14:37.44 | ChrisH | ahop: thats normally done by your DE (Dektoip Environment) |
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| 14:38.31 | ahop | ChrisH: I use a raspbian without GUI (no screen, no kbd) |
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| 14:39.32 | petn-randall | !raspbian |
| 14:39.36 | dpkg | Raspbian is a distribution <based on Debian> made specifically for the <Raspberry Pi>. Raspbian is not Debian and it is not supported in #debian. Please use #raspbian on irc.freenode.net for support. http://www.raspbian.org/ |
| 14:39.40 | jelly | judd: bug rm x-ttcidfont-conf |
| 14:39.44 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/654533 in ftp.debian.org (closed): «RM: x-ttcidfont-conf -- RoQA; Debian-specific, unmaintained, tied to defoma removal»; severity: normal; opened: 2012-01-04; last modified: 2012-02-07. |
| 14:39.54 | jelly | Iuz: ^^ |
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| 14:44.28 | Iuz | thanks jelly |
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| 16:05.59 | d[^_^]b | so my system won't boot after updating jessie |
| 16:06.04 | d[^_^]b | it's in "systemd emergency mode" |
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| 16:06.14 | d[^_^]b | this systemd thing seems intensely fragile |
| 16:06.24 | d[^_^]b | but wasn't it created to get away from fragility? |
| 16:07.05 | epsilon | every monolithic thingys are fragile and/or vulnerable |
| 16:07.30 | d[^_^]b | this is beyond usual fragility. the number of interdependencies that are created without fully testing is insane |
| 16:07.46 | d[^_^]b | how does something like systemd get past sid into jessie without being 'ready' |
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| 16:08.05 | d[^_^]b | maybe it's a sign that debian policy is just... falling apart |
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| 16:08.47 | Walex | d[^_^]b: I really dislike 'systemd' too, but as some people say "it works". Indeed it works in most cases, like things like GRUB2 etc. |
| 16:09.20 | d[^_^]b | Walex: i hear you. i try to use ZFS root filesystem and Grub2 becomes an issue there, as well. |
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| 16:09.30 | d[^_^]b | Grub 0.97 doesn't error out unnecessarily like Grub2 does :) |
| 16:10.04 | ntz | can't help himself to not murmur something about that the debian is the most retarded distro in the world ... yuck |
| 16:10.31 | d[^_^]b | ntz: careful - abrotman will ban you for saying that :) |
| 16:10.55 | d[^_^]b | in fact abrotman will probably ban me just for warning you |
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| 16:11.30 | ntz | d[^_^]b: I think that abrotman will leave me here unbanned as a kind of unusual and cruel punishment |
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| 16:12.04 | petn-randall | d[^_^]b: Do you have a support request? If not, please keep the channel clear for support. |
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| 16:12.12 | d[^_^]b | petn-randall: yes i do - scroll up to read it |
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| 16:12.17 | petn-randall | !ask |
| 16:12.17 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 16:12.39 | petn-randall | d[^_^]b: Other than "doesn't work" you're not providing any details. |
| 16:12.52 | ntz | d[^_^]b: what exactly systemd says to you that it doesn't continue booting ? |
| 16:12.53 | d[^_^]b | petn-randall: i sure did! it says its in emergency mode even though all my services and filesystems are mounted |
| 16:13.35 | ntz | and yep, systemd is fragile and mainly used that much because the young and unexperienced ppl rule the distros communities |
| 16:13.36 | petn-randall | d[^_^]b: What do the logs say? From where to where did you upgrade? |
| 16:13.39 | d[^_^]b | when i try to actually use the 'emergency shell', it will say "hangup" if a command runs for more than > 10 seconds |
| 16:13.54 | d[^_^]b | petn-randall: i was on a jessie snapshot from ~November and then i did dist-upgrade a few days ago |
| 16:14.16 | d[^_^]b | it had 27 day uptime before i rebooted and then i got to witness systemd fully take over my system for the first time |
| 16:14.31 | d[^_^]b | annnd i forgot to take a ZFS snapshot before i upgraded so i'm pretty much screwed |
| 16:14.42 | ntz | that has to be very disturbing :P |
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| 16:15.16 | petn-randall | ntz: Please stop bickering about systemd if you can continue using sysv init without problems. Everyone is fed up with the senseless ramblings about systemd. |
| 16:15.30 | d[^_^]b | petn-randall: it's not useless ramblings dude |
| 16:15.37 | d[^_^]b | and it's certainly not bickering |
| 16:15.41 | d[^_^]b | systemd doesn't "just work" |
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| 16:15.50 | d[^_^]b | that attitude is horrible, petn-randall |
| 16:15.52 | petn-randall | d[^_^]b: Take it elsewhere, this is a support channel. |
| 16:16.04 | d[^_^]b | and i'm asking for support with something debian decided to include |
| 16:16.20 | d[^_^]b | you're just ignoring my support request because it's convenient to you |
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| 16:16.48 | d[^_^]b | petn-randall: you just said "Please stop bickering about systemd if you can continue using sysv init without problems. |
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| 16:17.02 | petn-randall | d[^_^]b: If you want it fixed, please provide the logs I asked for. |
| 16:17.27 | d[^_^]b | petn-randall: you mean 'journalctl -xb'? it doesn't tell me anything |
| 16:17.34 | petn-randall | d[^_^]b: I will not discuss why Debian decided to use systemd, we've beaten this horse to death a long time ago. |
| 16:17.54 | d[^_^]b | petn-randall: and now it's going to start affecting more people... so get used to people coming into this "support channel" to ask about it |
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| 16:18.12 | d[^_^]b | petn-randall: if you don't like how this is a support channel where people have issues and ask for help maybe you should go elsewhere |
| 16:18.46 | petn-randall | d[^_^]b: Again, I'm here for support, not discussing the systemd cabal taking over FOSS. |
| 16:18.47 | ntz | d[^_^]b: petn-randall is right ... don't elaborate your personal opinions, we know them already |
| 16:19.02 | d[^_^]b | it's not a personal opinion :) it's a real situation i'm in |
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| 16:19.28 | d[^_^]b | you say not to ramble about systemd *if* we can use init scripts without issues |
| 16:19.33 | petn-randall | d[^_^]b: /var/log/syslog and kern.log would also be a good start to look into. |
| 16:19.36 | d[^_^]b | but as far as i can see systemd is just erroring out about nothing |
| 16:19.40 | ntz | d[^_^]b: so give us some debugging output which would help us to determine, what went wrong with your systemd |
| 16:20.29 | d[^_^]b | i'm trying to currently find a way to even get into the filesystem |
| 16:21.21 | jelly | d[^_^]b: in the meantime, you'll probably get better help for jessie in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
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| 16:21.54 | d[^_^]b | jelly: i was banned from there for mentioning how quiet it was |
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| 16:22.15 | jelly | lol |
| 16:22.23 | d[^_^]b | refrains from using words 'power hungry' |
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| 16:23.07 | jelly | d[^_^]b: do you happen to know which nickname you used and when did that happen |
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| 16:23.44 | d[^_^]b | 'kash', just a couple days ago. |
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| 16:24.05 | d[^_^]b | ya know what, this is just.. not going to work for me. i'm sure i can figure out how to get Gentoo running as a root filesystem without too much effort. |
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| 16:24.17 | d[^_^]b | you guys enjoy your systemd, i'm going to stay away |
| 16:24.19 | petn-randall | !next |
| 16:24.19 | dpkg | Another happy customer leaves the building. |
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| 16:24.42 | d[^_^]b | petn-randall: aw you have such a good track record you have to make the bot say something for it :) |
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| 16:26.16 | blackyboy | How can i monitor terminal activities, Whom ever type any commands or what ever it want to get in a log file. |
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| 16:27.39 | petn-randall | blackyboy: You could use something like screen or tmux, they have builtin logging capabilities. |
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| 16:28.21 | blackyboy | oh cool will byoubu log every activities ? |
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| 16:28.48 | d[^_^]b | blackyboy: bash does that. screen/tmux aren't what you're looking for. |
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| 16:29.00 | d[^_^]b | blackyboy: there's a bash setting to "log everything" to syslog or somewhere else |
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| 16:29.41 | halt | Hi All, I try to setup an program to run as service I already have the init.d script for it all looks good if I run the same command just from bash, but the when i run it with start-stop-daemon then nothing happeneds, how can I find out what's wrong ? Here is the init script ( template ) https://raw.githubusercontent.com/solarkennedy/puppet-consul/master/templates/consul.debian.erb |
| 16:29.43 | blackyboy | d[^_^]b: oh cool how can i achieve it ? Google dosen't helped |
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| 16:30.25 | d[^_^]b | blackyboy: http://askubuntu.com/questions/93566/how-to-log-all-bash-commands-by-all-users-on-a-server |
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| 16:31.04 | ntz | blackyboy: but at the beginnig: set -x; exec 2 > /var/tmp/`basename $0`.debug |
| 16:31.15 | ntz | ^^ and investigate that file what's wrong |
| 16:31.18 | d[^_^]b | blackyboy: there's a package called 'acct' that does process accounting. |
| 16:31.21 | ntz | s/but/put/ |
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| 16:31.47 | ntz | halt: ^^ sorry, for you |
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| 16:32.13 | d[^_^]b | blackyboy: if you're wanting to log all the *commands* people run, this works for you. if you're wanting to log the *output* of the commands, you'll need something else for each individual one. |
| 16:32.17 | blackyboy | Ok let me check |
| 16:32.34 | d[^_^]b | bbiab |
| 16:32.48 | blackyboy | d[^_^]b: i want to log everything including output and command |
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| 16:34.47 | halt | ntz: Oh thanks, and which part is the worst ? ( using puppet to install consul on debian ) the still using init.d and not systemd useing puppet and not something else, useing consul or having to resolve this myself |
| 16:35.12 | ChrisH | blackyboy: depending on where you do that it might be illegal |
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| 16:36.08 | blackyboy | ChrisH: i want to make documentation when ever i setup some server, So i need to log everything to reduce my typing work |
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| 16:37.31 | ChrisH | blackyboy: Then using screen -L might be the easiest way to do it. |
| 16:37.38 | halt | blackyboy: Use config management to reduce the time.. loging is useful but this is not the soltuion for the issue |
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| 16:38.02 | d[^_^]b | blackyboy: use 'script' |
| 16:38.20 | d[^_^]b | blackyboy: it will record the output of a terminal session and you can play it back as a 'video' later :) |
| 16:38.33 | d[^_^]b | blackyboy: sorry i think it's called 'record' |
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| 16:39.25 | jhutchins | screen can do that too, but us more for the user to record than to audit users. |
| 16:39.33 | halt | for that this is the best https://asciinema.org/ |
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| 16:41.07 | teraflops | halt: asciinema is nice ;) |
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| 16:41.47 | kb3ien | looking to run ucarp ON a machine that provides NAT and routing. Is there a way to ensure that on each hosts both VLAN_2 and VLAN_3 both get the same master/standby relationship? |
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| 16:44.15 | kb3ien | must one use a single CARP instance ? |
| 16:44.23 | halt | so anyone on the (cunsul) init.d script ? I just need suggestion how to debug it, I have no clue how to start since all looks fine when running the same command from bash :( |
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| 16:44.45 | d[^_^]b | kb3ien: Debian/kFreeBSD? |
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| 16:45.33 | kb3ien | Debian linux 3.12 |
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| 16:46.48 | centrx | kb3ien, This sounds like a ucarp-specific question, is there a channel for that software? |
| 16:46.58 | centrx | kb3ien, Could also try #linux |
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| 16:48.15 | d[^_^]b | i wonder if ucarp is similar to freebsd carp |
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| 16:50.20 | petn-randall | d[^_^]b: On the network level they're identical and 100% compatible, setup-wise AFAIR they're a little different. |
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| 16:51.52 | d[^_^]b | ah makes sense |
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| 16:56.02 | marcelomauro | hello |
| 16:57.28 | marcelomauro | I'm trying to use ddclient but I'm not sure if I configure it correctly. Someone can halp me? |
| 16:58.07 | d[^_^]b | marcelomauro: the Dynamic DNS thing? |
| 16:58.18 | marcelomauro | yes? |
| 16:58.28 | d[^_^]b | marcelomauro: sorry was trying to see if you typo'd 'dhclient' :) |
| 16:58.54 | d[^_^]b | marcelomauro: the common saying in this channel is not to ask if you can ask, but just ask the question |
| 16:58.56 | marcelomauro | it's ok. |
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| 16:59.24 | d[^_^]b | i.e. post a paste.debian.org snippet of your configuration and any debug output |
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| 17:01.18 | marcelomauro | d[^_^]b, I'm not sure about login and password because there is a password for site service and other for domain |
| 17:01.34 | d[^_^]b | marcelomauro: don't post your passwords on the pastebin |
| 17:01.42 | marcelomauro | I know |
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| 17:02.19 | abrotman | d[^_^]b: any reason you're evading your ban, and violating freenode policy? |
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| 17:03.06 | marcelomauro | d[^_^]b, I just follow this |
| 17:03.10 | marcelomauro | http://ddns.winco.com.br/perguntas-frequentes/#cat5-post116 |
| 17:03.15 | d[^_^]b | abrotman: i'm not purposely doing much, my ipv6 timed out so i just connected normally. |
| 17:03.19 | d[^_^]b | this channel is on my auto-join list. |
| 17:03.24 | marcelomauro | on linux configuration section |
| 17:03.30 | d[^_^]b | abrotman: any reason you banned me originally beyond personal prejudice? |
| 17:03.32 | abrotman | no, you purposely didn't authenticate to services |
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| 17:06.53 | hid3 | censorship |
| 17:07.25 | ompaul | irc is not a democracy - if you don't like it cry on farcebook |
| 17:07.28 | centrx | the systemd rebels are crafty |
| 17:07.28 | hid3 | seems to be not only an attribute of ex Soviet block countries but evidence is seen in modern world too |
| 17:07.53 | idl0r | hm, make-kpkg kernel_debug misses some symlinks it seems.. /usr/lib/debug/boot/vmlinux* /usr/lib/debug/vmlinux*; can anybody confirm that? |
| 17:08.31 | ntz | well, I don't like it too .. he wasn't right now (nor even before) offensive or insulting ... this sucks, but thankfully not in my homes channel .. this really could not happen in my channels |
| 17:08.32 | valdyn | !kernel-package |
| 17:08.32 | dpkg | [kernel-package] To compile a kernel The Debian Way(tm) "aptitude install kernel-package build-essential libncurses5-dev" and follow the instructions in /usr/share/doc/kernel-package/README.gz. You should also ask me about <make-kpkg>, <kp mantra> and <kernel build-deps>. |
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| 17:09.06 | ntz | s/homes channel/home channels/ |
| 17:09.10 | valdyn | idl0r: I believe make-kpkg is deprecated |
| 17:09.26 | idl0r | hm |
| 17:09.52 | idl0r | so what's the alternative? |
| 17:10.35 | valdyn | idl0r: "make help | grep deb" |
| 17:11.04 | valdyn | idl0r: this does aswell build a -dbg package. I cant say if it works. The kernel itself is fine. |
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| 17:16.36 | idl0r | valdyn: thanks! i'll give it a try |
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| 17:34.21 | conley | I have a computer running Wheezy out at my farm where I don't currently have internet. I want to install apt-offline, so I have a flash drive with apt-offline.deb and a few .deb of dependencies (python.deb, etc.). I have a question: Is there a way to recursively download all dependencies as .deb files? |
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| 17:35.05 | turtleding | hello. when i want to install for example brackets/ato - which are providing both only deb packages - is the best "solution" to install & update it manually per dpkg -i? seems pretty uncomfortable |
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| 17:35.08 | centrx | conley, Use -d with apt-get |
| 17:35.15 | conley | I don't know for sure what files I have out there, but if I'm missing python, for example, I might not have the underlying deps for it. I don't want to dl them all by hand particularly but I guess if that is needed I can do so. Or I guess I could bring the CD out and it would have most all of those packages? |
| 17:35.51 | conley | centrx: ah, you're awesome! I didn't know if apt-get would download debs because I was reading about source packages and I wasn't sure... should have known because apt-get doesn't compile packages (by default) |
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| 17:35.57 | centrx | turtleding, Best solution is to find a package in Debian for it, looking in backports potentially etc |
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| 17:38.49 | turtleding | centrx: brackets for example isnt listed in packages.debian.org => i thought to add the release site to /etc/apt/sources-list; but i dont know how to do this & furthermoore if that makes sense |
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| 17:48.51 | ryan-c | Is there way way to prevent systemd on jessie from starting up any agettys on ttys? I have an embedded system and it has no ttys, just a serial line. |
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| 17:49.24 | ryan-c | I saw that editing /etc/systemd/logind.conf might be able to do something, but it doesn't seem to. |
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| 17:51.46 | valdyn | /etc/systemd/system/getty.target.wants/getty@tty1.service |
| 17:52.01 | ryan-c | valdyn: what aobut it? |
| 17:52.13 | ryan-c | valdyn: I removed it, that didn't fix the issue. |
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| 17:55.13 | valdyn | ryan-c: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd_FAQ#How_do_I_change_the_default_number_of_gettys.3F |
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| 17:56.02 | ryan-c | valdyn: Setting NAutoVTs to 0 in /etc/systemd/logind.conf does nothing. |
| 17:57.04 | valdyn | ryan-c: i can only imagine that you still are spawning gettys with your inetd |
| 17:57.17 | valdyn | ryan-c: and of course changing the systemd config does something |
| 17:57.17 | ryan-c | valdyn: I'm not running inetd |
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| 17:57.32 | ryan-c | valdyn: I set that parameter to zero and rebooted, the gettys still start |
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| 18:02.38 | ryan-c | valdyn: this is retarded |
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| 18:06.11 | Oscilax | does anybody know a way to tell apt-cacher-ng to use human readable timestamps instead of the unixtime format? |
| 18:06.16 | p-trust | how to use debian properly ? |
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| 18:06.20 | p-trust | is there any manual? |
| 18:06.26 | Oscilax | there is, hang on |
| 18:06.43 | Oscilax | http://debian-handbook.info/ |
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| 18:06.46 | p-trust | thx |
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| 18:07.17 | Voobr | Hello. I'm trying to create a binary-only .deb package using debhelper, etc. Here's what I'm getting: "dpkg-gencontrol: error: syntax error in debian/control at line 7: first block lacks a source field" ... but this is a binary-only package, so why is it asking for a Source field? |
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| 18:10.08 | Oscilax | Voobr: are you following a guide like https://wiki.debian.org/IntroDebianPackaging ? |
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| 18:10.55 | Voobr | Oscilax: Yeah. I've not found an answer via extensive googling unfortunately |
| 18:10.57 | Voobr | Still looking though |
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| 18:19.23 | Oscilax | Voobr: no real solution but you could have a look at packages like pepperflashplugin-nonfree at their debian/control file how they do it |
| 18:20.06 | jhutchins | p-trust The Linux System Administrator's Guide is an excellent general resource: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/sag/html/index.html |
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| 18:22.09 | Oscilax | TLDP still exists? wow. |
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| 18:23.21 | Voobr | Oscilax: They apparently do it by only including a "Package" field in their control file. :) |
| 18:23.26 | Voobr | Which is what I'm doing, but the build tools don't like it |
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| 18:25.11 | broken848 | My gnome sound settings window just broke working fine before, volume change still works but I cant access the microphone, and when an application attempts to use mic it crashes |
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| 18:26.35 | Oscilax | broken848: have you checked already if a corresponding bug report exists? |
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| 18:29.49 | Voobr | Thinking of just trying this thing: https://github.com/jordansissel/fpm/wiki :P |
| 18:29.52 | broken848 | im searching it yes |
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| 18:30.34 | broken848 | can I try and reinstall the sound package in synaptics? |
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| 18:33.07 | Oscilax | Voobr: magic :) |
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| 18:36.42 | Voobr | Oscilax: Alas! |
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| 18:36.55 | srg | How can I stop dhclient from putting the "search" line in resolv.conf? |
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| 18:37.17 | srg | I tried: supersede domain-search ""; but it said "suspicious value, ignoring" |
| 18:37.35 | broken848 | if i want to try and repair the sound settings in gnome what application should I find? |
| 18:37.37 | srg | Or can I somehow just write-protect resolv.conf? |
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| 18:39.35 | Oscilax | srg: have a look at option #2 there: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/dhclient-etcresolvconf-hooks/ |
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| 18:45.30 | teraflops | i never liked the inmutable bit hack for resolv.conf |
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| 18:51.21 | hyper_ch | hi there, I have an issue with the normal mail program. Usually I send mail like: mail -s "subject" user@domain.tld |
| 18:51.32 | hyper_ch | <enter>some body text<enter> |
| 18:51.37 | hyper_ch | and then I hit twice ctrl-d |
| 18:51.53 | hyper_ch | upon first hitting ctrl-d, it asks for cc: addresses and upon second time, it sends the mail |
| 18:52.12 | hyper_ch | however, now when I hit enter, a message appears "EOT" and the mail doesn't seem to be sent |
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| 18:52.42 | abrotman | Which version of Debian, which package provides your 'mail' binary? |
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| 18:53.21 | hyper_ch | abrotman: that's what I'm trying to find out... wheezy |
| 18:53.32 | hyper_ch | no idea what provides the mail binary |
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| 18:53.42 | abrotman | hyper_ch: dpkg -S $(which mail) |
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| 18:53.51 | abrotman | see if that helps at all |
| 18:54.07 | hyper_ch | dpkg -S $(which mail) |
| 18:54.07 | dpkg | Package: $(which mail): Status: install ok installed |
| 18:54.08 | hyper_ch | dpkg-query: no path found matching pattern /usr/bin/mail |
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| 18:55.06 | hyper_ch | been trying to figure that out myself... install apt-file but no real success either |
| 18:55.13 | hyper_ch | I tend to think it's bsd-mailx |
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| 18:55.26 | hyper_ch | but I did purge that package and reinstall it but still same behaviour |
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| 19:00.34 | Syrako | hi |
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| 19:07.10 | hyper_ch | abrotman: I figured it out :) |
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| 19:09.08 | ag4ve_ | where should i add parameters for images used by by grub? |
| 19:09.36 | codekK | Hello, i have to underline a PDF file with fluorescent. I tried with adobe reader, evince, xpdf.. some can me recommend a one pdf software?? Im on XFCE. regars |
| 19:09.43 | ag4ve_ | i notice /etc/grub/41-custom looks for a custom.cfg somewhere, but idk and don't really know what can be defined there |
| 19:10.03 | hyper_ch | underline with fluorescent? |
| 19:10.34 | codekK | hyper_ch, http://thumbs.dreamstime.com/z/fluorescent-marker-yellow-plus-some-fluorescing-signs-like-call-sign-question-mark-tick-mark-arrow-underlining-36496405.jpg |
| 19:11.08 | hyper_ch | no idea... good luck |
| 19:11.18 | codekK | Sorry if I said it wrong, english its not my mattern language |
| 19:11.57 | hagbard_ | Maybe you can import the pdf with libre office, and use that to put some color behind the text. |
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| 19:45.49 | Felinor | Hi |
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| 19:46.13 | Felinor | I tried to install debian on my netbook, but i've the msg no bootmgr |
| 19:46.43 | Felinor | With CD1 and unetbootin |
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| 19:47.14 | johnsmithy | is there a way to force initramfs-tools (ie update-initramfs) to include a specific module? |
| 19:47.28 | johnsmithy | for some reason dm_raid isn't being included but md/raid1.ko is |
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| 19:50.32 | johnsmithy | im actually a bit confused as to how raid1 can even be loaded without dm_raid |
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| 19:51.12 | mtn | Felinor: don't use unetbootin to make the disk |
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| 19:51.45 | Felinor | Why ? |
| 19:51.51 | johnsmithy | also dm_raid doesn't appear to be available in rescue mode which makes fixing this extra interesting :| |
| 19:51.52 | mtn | !unetbootin |
| 19:51.52 | dpkg | UNetbootin (Universal Netboot Installer) allows creation of bootable USB drives for a variety of Linux distributions. http://unetbootin.sf.net/ Not recommended for use with Debian CD/DVD images, as it mangles the installer in cruel and unusual ways, resulting in hard to debug problems. Ask me about <hybrid images>, <usb install>, <win32diskimager>. |
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| 19:52.23 | mtn | Felinor: you using windows? |
| 19:52.26 | Felinor | Same problem with linux mint :s |
| 19:52.30 | Felinor | mtn: yes |
| 19:52.42 | mtn | Felinor: then use win32diskimager to make the disk |
| 19:52.49 | Felinor | I tried ubuntu long time ago, but i had problems |
| 19:52.55 | Stijn | plain dd |
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| 19:53.15 | Felinor | k, thx |
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| 20:06.33 | johnsmithy | adding dm_raid to /etc/initramfs-tools/modules seems to be the right solutionm |
| 20:06.39 | johnsmithy | lets see if it really works |
| 20:06.55 | johnsmithy | horray it worked |
| 20:07.01 | johnsmithy | (this is fixed in unbstable) |
| 20:07.28 | aphoriser | Any recommendations on office suit alternatives to openoffice? |
| 20:07.34 | Stijn | libreoffice |
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| 20:08.00 | Felinor | win32diskimager failed :( |
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| 20:11.10 | cyberpunk3r | hey, got a fresh 7 install with no internet and trying to install the wireless. I have a win pc with internet and a flashdrive. What's the best was to install stuff like the build essentials? |
| 20:11.23 | Bremsstrahlung | If I install xfce from the Debian netins, what desktop manager will it install for it? LightDM? |
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| 20:12.39 | ctmjr | Bremsstrahlung: yes lightdm |
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| 20:13.07 | Bremsstrahlung | ctmjr: I see. |
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| 20:13.47 | Bremsstrahlung | I am not awfully knowledgable about this whole desktop manager business; are desktop environments compatible generally with more than one kind of desktop manager? |
| 20:14.28 | cyberpunk3r | anybody point me in the right direction? |
| 20:14.29 | brontosaurusrex | Bremsstrahlung: yes, but the cool guy is lightdm at the moment |
| 20:14.41 | Bremsstrahlung | brontosaurusrex: Right, OK. |
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| 20:16.07 | mtn | cyberpunk3r: this might be easier for you: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/current/ |
| 20:16.19 | mtn | cyberpunk3r: that will make most wifi work our of the box |
| 20:16.25 | mtn | our/out |
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| 20:16.28 | brontosaurusrex | cyberpunk3r: plug in the wire and check /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 20:17.11 | brontosaurusrex | Bremsstrahlung: working out of the box with openbox and i3wm < tested myself |
| 20:17.32 | Bremsstrahlung | brontosaurusrex: I see. |
| 20:18.58 | brontosaurusrex | I have a note: Note: Lightdm does not source .profile, so make sure that user bin path is added in .xsessionrc instead |
| 20:19.40 | brontosaurusrex | but thats the only "weirdness" so far |
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| 20:20.22 | Bremsstrahlung | o.o |
| 20:20.23 | valdyn | its pretty standard that *dm does not source .profile |
| 20:20.39 | brontosaurusrex | valdyn: slim did i think |
| 20:20.53 | valdyn | brontosaurusrex: yes, probably, the regular xdm gdm etc don't |
| 20:21.04 | brontosaurusrex | you sure? |
| 20:21.13 | valdyn | !dotfiles |
| 20:21.13 | dpkg | well, dotfiles is http://wiki.debian.org/DotFiles, or http://www.dotfiles.com/ Remember that changes to these files won't be reflected until you log out and then log back in. Ask me about <bash login scripts>. |
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| 20:21.16 | valdyn | yes |
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| 20:22.12 | brontosaurusrex | ok, then there is no "weirdness" |
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| 20:24.10 | valdyn | depending on setup each terminal started in X may start a login shell. If this is the case, then most probably you won't even notice that .profile was not sourced on login |
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| 20:25.14 | nath | is there an eeasy tool around, to print filenames to a text or html file? |
| 20:25.31 | brontosaurusrex | nath: ls > file.txt |
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| 20:26.20 | nath | brontosaurusrex: cheers XD have not assumed it would be that easy! THX! |
| 20:27.50 | FLHerne | nath: Input and output redirection are one of the key Unix-CLI features |
| 20:28.07 | cyberpunk3r | mtn: i don't know whether it's me being an idiot but that link is blank? brontosaurusrex all i have in there is the wpa_supplicant command i inserted. But it doesn't connect to the wifi properly |
| 20:28.30 | FLHerne | nath: If you wanted to run a script to format the filenames in some way, you could run ls | somescript > file.txt |
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| 20:30.37 | teraflops | FLHerne: windows also does that |
| 20:30.50 | mtn | cyberpunk3r: not you :) but it is working now |
| 20:31.16 | FLHerne | teraflops: But lacks enough tools to be properly useful :P |
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| 20:32.02 | nath | FLHerne: assuming I only wanted PDF files to be listed would it nee some sort of script? |
| 20:32.18 | FLHerne | nath: ls *.pdf > file.txt |
| 20:32.29 | FLHerne | Assuming your pdfs are properly suffixed |
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| 20:32.39 | nath | FLHerne: jesus <3 I'm loving LINUX! |
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| 20:32.49 | FLHerne | If you wanted to check for pdfness in some less-fragile way, you'd need a script |
| 20:33.35 | NoImNotNineVolt | perl and File::MimeInfo would be a good start. |
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| 20:34.27 | cyberpunk3r | mtn: is this where you mean? -- http://cdimage.debian.org/mirror/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/firmware/wheezy/current/ |
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| 20:35.19 | FLHerne | nath: If you want to list pdfs recursively in subdirectories, find . -name '*.pdf' -print > file.txt |
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| 20:36.23 | mtn | cyberpunk3r: that site is acting weird. this is where you should go: http://cdimage.debian.org/cdimage/unofficial/non-free/cd-including-firmware/7.8.0/ |
| 20:36.53 | nath | FLHerne: nice one, thanks! |
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| 20:37.23 | cyberpunk3r | mtn: is there anyway to just install the drivers instead of installing the whole OS again? |
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| 20:38.11 | mtn | cyberpunk3r: yes, copy the ones you need to a usb and then install them to your os. I have never done it, so.... |
| 20:38.31 | FLHerne | nath: 'find' goes through files in subdirectories recursively, '.' tells it to start from the current directory, -name '*.pdf' filters for files named that way, and -print tells it to print the resulting filenames |
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| 20:45.21 | jeremie__ | Hi o/ |
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| 20:50.06 | blocky | does jessie have any alternate kernels packaged, for example con kolivas patch |
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| 20:51.28 | valdyn | blocky: no |
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| 20:53.09 | DelphiWorld | yo |
| 20:53.21 | DelphiWorld | how do i purge a package but also restore there fully default conf? |
| 20:53.25 | Anoniem4l | Greetings, I am having a problem with AMD catalyst program, I can't run it as superuser. The error is: "No protocol specified\namdcccle: cannot connect to X server :0" |
| 20:53.32 | Anoniem4l | any ideas, anyone? |
| 20:53.56 | valdyn | Anoniem4l: why do you need to run it as root? |
| 20:54.21 | Anoniem4l | valdyn: because it won't let me change some configurations without being root (e.g. multiple monitors) |
| 20:54.36 | DelphiWorld | apt-get purge apache2 do purge it but dont restore default config if reinstalling |
| 20:54.41 | valdyn | Anoniem4l: thats quite odd |
| 20:54.52 | valdyn | Anoniem4l: is that (crap) driver supposed to be that way? |
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| 20:55.13 | valdyn | Anoniem4l: or in other words, do you even know it needs root for this? |
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| 20:55.28 | Anoniem4l | valdyn: i don't really care if it is supposed to be that way, it's the only thing I have found that's working, and believe me I have reinstalled broken kernels/OSes about 10 times the past 2-3 days. |
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| 20:55.48 | valdyn | Anoniem4l: so its working but its not working? |
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| 20:56.06 | Anoniem4l | valdyn: it's working, it can run without root. |
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| 20:56.45 | valdyn | Anoniem4l: so you dont actually know that running it as root would fix your problem |
| 20:57.03 | valdyn | Anoniem4l: I assume you are using "su" to become root |
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| 20:57.19 | valdyn | Anoniem4l: you need to use "sux" or "sudo" instead |
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| 20:57.28 | Anoniem4l | valdyn: I have used `su`, I have used `sudo`, I have used `sudo -i` and I have used `sudo -s`. |
| 20:58.01 | valdyn | Anoniem4l: so its not working independent of you being root or not |
| 20:58.27 | Anoniem4l | valdyn: what, no, I am telling you the thing runs without superuser privilege |
| 20:59.03 | Anoniem4l | valdyn: I downloaded this from the wheezy backports repo, according to the official debian wiki documentation regarding ATI drivers |
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| 20:59.59 | qmr | Anoniem4l: I have found nvidia to be less painful on linux / unix |
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| 21:00.14 | Anoniem4l | qmr: yeah I know, but, I don't have one unfortunately. |
| 21:00.14 | valdyn | Anoniem4l: try "sudo -s" |
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| 21:01.03 | Anoniem4l | valdyn: how about you scroll up. http://i.imgur.com/3R3aluo.png |
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| 21:02.16 | cyberpunk3r | i have a winbox with wifi and a flashdrive. My wifi on the debian install box isnt working right (alfa AWUs036H) how can i put the drivers on? |
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| 21:02.36 | valdyn | Anoniem4l: does something like "sudo xterm" work properly? |
| 21:03.07 | Anoniem4l | valdyn: yeah, `sudo` works properly in other cases. |
| 21:03.32 | teraflops | Anoniem4l: did you search on the web about the same issue? |
| 21:03.49 | Anoniem4l | teraflops: yeah, people say they fixed it with something that doesn't fix it in my case. |
| 21:03.59 | Anoniem4l | e.g. `sudo -s` |
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| 21:04.46 | teraflops | Anoniem4l: so you tried de xhost + fix? |
| 21:05.09 | teraflops | s/fix/trick |
| 21:05.15 | teraflops | whatever :P |
| 21:05.30 | Anoniem4l | teraflops: yeah, I tried many combinations to xhost + e.g. `xhost + root@localhost && xhost + user@localhost` |
| 21:06.01 | teraflops | Anoniem4l: and DISPLAY=:0.0 xhost + && sudo amdcccle ? |
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| 21:06.27 | Anoniem4l | teraflops: not that one, can you elaborate on that possible solution? |
| 21:06.33 | valdyn | Anoniem4l: the program is "amdccle" ? is there any difference between "which amdccle" and "sudo which amdcccle" ? |
| 21:06.53 | teraflops | yeah: `DISPLAY=:0.0 xhost + && sudo amdcccle` |
| 21:07.04 | Anoniem4l | valdyn: no difference at all |
| 21:07.06 | Anoniem4l | teraflops: 1sec |
| 21:07.49 | Anoniem4l | teraflops: awesome man, thank you. |
| 21:07.54 | teraflops | Anoniem4l: yw |
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| 21:10.01 | buildcomplete | Hi people, I have a laptop running Debian, but it have problems maintaining a stable network connection, it doesn't really matter if it is wireless, or wired... right now, it is connected to wireless, and there are some 'stairs' indicating the signal strength, but there is also an icon saying 'Not connected' (running lxde) I have installed wicd, could that be the problem? or any idea what I should look at? |
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| 21:11.06 | valdyn | buildcomplete: looks to me like you might have 2 competing programs controlling your network |
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| 21:11.53 | blocky | if I want to install a kernel patch, is it better to apply it to vanilla or to source I download from apt |
| 21:11.57 | buildcomplete | yep, thats what I'm thinking... |
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| 21:12.09 | valdyn | buildcomplete: ps aux | grep network-manager |
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| 21:13.42 | buildcomplete | valdyn, only thing in that list is the grep network-manager |
| 21:13.44 | teraflops | man use pgrep |
| 21:14.56 | cyberpunk3r | where can i download the build essentials for a debian box that doesn't have wifi? I want to put em on a usb, mount usb and then install em |
| 21:16.43 | buildcomplete | teraflops, what that to me? |
| 21:16.45 | valdyn | buildcomplete: i dont know how all these processes that might be messing with your network may be called. If you put the whole list (ps aux) up on a paste site i can have a look |
| 21:17.28 | valdyn | buildcomplete: pgrep is just roughly ps | grep in a single tool, it does not matter here |
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| 21:19.46 | teraflops | buildcomplete: nah sorry |
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| 21:20.51 | jhutchins | !apt-offline |
| 21:20.52 | dpkg | To use apt on a machine that doesn't have a network connection (if you have a separate machine that does have a network connection), read http://batmat.net/apt-offline/ch3.html . Ask me about <apt-zip>, <apt-walkabout>. |
| 21:21.05 | valdyn | maybe the process name is really "NetworkManager", I don't know. |
| 21:21.11 | buildcomplete | np :), I will paste in a few seconds I am writing this on my main and not the laptop since i have a feeling the network is soong leaving on that... |
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| 21:22.14 | jhutchins | cyberpunk3r: See above from dpkg |
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| 21:24.09 | buildcomplete | http://codepaste.net/hu4h3q |
| 21:24.57 | buildcomplete | seems like there is something called NetworkManager |
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| 21:25.50 | valdyn | buildcomplete: i suppose one of your applets talks to NetworkManager, the other to wicd (or something else) |
| 21:26.00 | valdyn | buildcomplete: which one do you want to keep? |
| 21:26.13 | valdyn | buildcomplete: yea, i see you have nm-applet running anyway |
| 21:26.34 | buildcomplete | the one with the stairs seems to work :), I guess that could be nm-applet? |
| 21:26.42 | valdyn | buildcomplete: rightclick |
| 21:27.13 | buildcomplete | valdyn, NetworkManager Applet |
| 21:27.32 | valdyn | buildcomplete: both would probably work |
| 21:27.32 | valdyn | buildcomplete: but just *one* |
| 21:27.51 | valdyn | buildcomplete: you can just remove one system and use the other, and change later if you want |
| 21:27.59 | valdyn | buildcomplete: so "apt-get remove network-manager" |
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| 21:28.23 | valdyn | buildcomplete: or wicd - your choice. |
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| 21:29.25 | jhutchins | buildcomplete: Up through Lenny, wicd often worked where Network-Manger didn't, but since Squeeze NM has been the better program and has worked with a broader range of hardware. |
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| 21:29.40 | buildcomplete | valdyn, I think I will remove wicd, I remember that I did install that myself, and it didn't help the connection problem |
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| 21:30.09 | buildcomplete | aha, that probably why I was guieded to wicd from the different tutorials arround. |
| 21:30.16 | valdyn | buildcomplete: well, it cant help if it creates a situation where you have 2 competing systems |
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| 21:30.28 | valdyn | buildcomplete: it may be just fine if you have only 1, as it should be |
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| 21:30.54 | valdyn | buildcomplete: i cant advocate either anyway, i dont use either |
| 21:31.02 | buildcomplete | true, but now it removbed and it still seems connected, I will rebott and see what happens :) |
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| 21:31.53 | smallfoot- | Why is Mono only 3.2.8 in Debian? |
| 21:31.54 | teraflops | oh nmtui is on jessie that's a great thing |
| 21:31.56 | smallfoot- | Latest is 3.12 |
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| 21:32.01 | smallfoot- | that is *several* versions newer! |
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| 21:32.55 | jhutchins | smallfoot-: Because we don't worry if somebody else's package number is bigger than ours. |
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| 21:33.24 | buildcomplete | still connected after reboot, thanks for the help both. |
| 21:33.25 | smallfoot- | jhuebner, yeah, but its heavily oudated and lacks features and security vulnerabilities |
| 21:34.01 | buildcomplete | wait, there are actually still two icons :/ |
| 21:34.28 | sailcat | buildcomplete, also, if you have lines like "allow-hotplug eth0" and "iface eth0 inet dhcp" in /etc/network/interfaces, you should comment them out so networkmanager can manage the interfaces |
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| 21:36.09 | buildcomplete | ok, I can actually see apt-get recomends running apg-get autoremove wicd to get rid of python-wicd-daemin and wicd-gtk. |
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| 21:37.57 | buildcomplete | sailcat, I have both lines in /etc/network/interfaces |
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| 21:38.55 | rww | smallfoot-: security vulnerabilities get backported. |
| 21:38.57 | buildcomplete | autoremed wicd, commented out--- rebooting |
| 21:38.59 | sailcat | buildcomplete, you installed without networkmanager or wicd probably. just comment them out and then networkmanager will take over. |
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| 21:39.45 | smallfoot- | rww, I see. But 3.2 is ancient. Mono has taken leaps forward and Microsoft are open sourcing parts of the .NET Framework such as ASP.NET MVC, Entity Framework, CoreCLR, etc |
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| 21:39.53 | rww | !sns |
| 21:39.53 | dpkg | Shiny New Shit Syndrome is a serious disorder, which usually breaks out into an epidemic every time something new is released. If you have SNS, ask me about <backports> and <ssb>; these are better options than upgrading to <testing> because it is a <moving target>. |
| 21:40.18 | rww | if you want a distro that turns package stability into clay pidgeon shooting, don't use Debian |
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| 21:40.18 | buildcomplete | yes, it started as a server installation, wicd was then installed because I couln't get the wireless to work, and then I finally installed lxde to hand over to my better half. |
| 21:40.23 | teraflops | rww: heh |
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| 21:42.43 | buildcomplete | thanks again, it seems to work now, and only one icon |
| 21:42.45 | elektrinis | https://packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/wkhtmltopdf |
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| 21:42.53 | elektrinis | kaip Å¡itÄ
įdÄt į sources.list |
| 21:43.07 | elektrinis | sorry ;] |
| 21:43.20 | elektrinis | how do I add this in to sources.list?\ |
| 21:43.32 | Oscilax | haha, SNS |
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| 21:48.44 | Major-Kong | Has anybody ever seen this on rkhunter? |
| 21:48.47 | Major-Kong | /usr/bin/sudo [ Warning ] |
| 21:48.48 | Major-Kong | [16:35:04] Warning: The file properties have changed: |
| 21:48.48 | Major-Kong | [16:35:04] File: /usr/bin/sudo |
| 21:48.48 | Major-Kong | [16:35:04] Current hash: 9f597106274a18590ff4f75a27b9572ffb9199d9 |
| 21:48.48 | Major-Kong | [16:35:04] Stored hash : af741c9d84c60ee8b94234b4659ae645284a3718 |
| 21:48.48 | Major-Kong | [16:35:04] Current inode: 9306184 Stored inode: 9318435 |
| 21:48.48 | Major-Kong | [16:35:04] Current size: 112824 Stored size: 113048 |
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| 21:51.41 | jhutchins | elektrinis: There are instructions on how to use backports at backports.debian.org |
| 21:51.58 | elektrinis | thanks |
| 21:52.25 | jhutchins | Major-Kong: Someone has changed the sudoers file. If it wasn't you, disconnect the network immediately. You should probably format the disk and reinstall the system. |
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| 21:53.23 | Major-Kong | Do you think it could possibly been a normal system update? |
| 21:53.25 | jhutchins | Major-Kong: It might be interesting to look at it and see if you can spot the changes, but if someone else has root access you can not trust anything on the system. None of the commands or programs are safe. |
| 21:53.32 | jhutchins | Major-Kong: Shouldn't be. |
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| 21:53.36 | Major-Kong | I rarly use the propupd command for rkhunter |
| 21:53.45 | jhutchins | Major-Kong: Normal system update should update rkhunter. |
| 21:54.18 | jhutchins | Major-Kong: I always see the message that it's being updated at the end of an install or upgrade. |
| 21:54.44 | Major-Kong | eeeeehhhhhhhhh *facepalm time to do a fresh installation I guess |
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| 21:55.01 | jhutchins | Major-Kong: Nuke it from orbit - it's the only way to be sure. |
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| 21:55.18 | jhutchins | Major-Kong: Might be interesting to look around a bit first, but be sure to disconnect asap. |
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| 21:55.37 | Oscilax | but how can you be sure you dont do the same mistake another time? |
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| 21:56.21 | jhutchins | Oscilax: That's part of looking around and seeing if you can tell what happened. |
| 21:56.42 | jhutchins | Oscilax: If you don't know the system well enough to do that though, you just need to make sure you follow good security practices. |
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| 22:12.57 | kavalha | does debian has a rolling release version? is testing rolling release maybe? |
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| 22:18.33 | WangDang_ | Hi, fdisk is showing /dev/sdf1 as a w95 FAT32 partition on a microSD card. mount says that special device /dev/sdf1 doesn't exist when I try to access it. Can anyone suggest what might be going on? |
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| 22:19.07 | qmr | WangDang_: does it work in another computer? anything in dmesg? |
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| 22:20.41 | ctmjr | WangDang_: how are you trying to mount it? |
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| 22:21.45 | teraflops | kavalha: http://oswatershed.org/ |
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| 22:23.49 | WangDang_ | qmr: after unplugging and replugging the microSD card into the reader to get fresh mesg output, mount has decided to mount it. I think my memory card reader might be going bad |
| 22:24.13 | WangDang_ | ctmjr: thanks, but I got it mounted now, after several tries |
| 22:24.20 | qmr | solid state things usually last a long time. I would guess the card was not seated |
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| 22:25.25 | WangDang_ | qmr: good point, but I did try it several times... :( |
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| 22:26.16 | qmr | WangDang_: might poke the pins out a little with a needle to see if that helps |
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| 22:27.43 | WangDang_ | qmr: contacts on the card or inside the reader? |
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| 22:28.58 | asterismo | hi |
| 22:29.02 | asterismo | people |
| 22:29.17 | asterismo | i need help with something |
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| 22:29.41 | asterismo | i'm trying to upgrade my debian 8 system and i get this error |
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| 22:30.19 | asterismo | http://paste.debian.net/160668/ |
| 22:30.26 | asterismo | can anyone help me? |
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| 22:32.39 | PryMar56 | asterismo, kernel version? uname -r |
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| 22:33.00 | Kareesh | Hi Gents. I am recruiting for ZFUND. We are looking for 3 intermediate / senior developers. We have two positions available for HTML5 mobile ready developers and one position for a Graphics artist. We are offering the opportunity to stay in our 5 star resort in near-central Barcelona, Spain for the length of the project. We are offering a 3,000 â 4,500 euro wage depending on the skill and experience of the appl |
| 22:33.01 | Kareesh | icant. The villa is three minutes from the beach, all services and amenities are located near by and we have a gourmet/boutique chef in house. We estimate the length of the project to be around 2 â 3 months. If you wish you to apply for more information, please send your C.V to george@enabl.es. You may PM or Email me for more information. Thank you. George. |
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| 22:36.03 | qmr | Kareesh: I will reboot your servers, switches, and routers for 4,500 EUR/mo |
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| 22:38.59 | asterismo | PryMar56: 3.2.0-4-686-pae |
| 22:39.00 | Neldogz | i just finished mounting an NFS share on my debian client but when I issue the command mount -t nfs .. nothing is returned.. The share is mounted and i can write to it.. what am I missing? |
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| 22:39.09 | asterismo | PryMar56: it's debian 8 testing |
| 22:39.16 | qmr | Neldogz: strace mount -t nfs |
| 22:39.46 | qmr | Neldogz: if it is mounted and you can write to it, what is the problem, exactly? |
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| 22:41.12 | buildcomplete | hi people, I have /usr/sbin/console-kit-daemon --no-daemon running... is that good? |
| 22:41.23 | qmr | sure |
| 22:41.26 | buildcomplete | 64 of them |
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| 22:44.14 | buildcomplete | ok, 'userland-threads' in htop... |
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| 22:44.34 | qmr | hilight the process, then press s |
| 22:44.51 | qmr | "and then teh student was enlightened" |
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| 22:46.17 | buildcomplete | could not execute strace |
| 22:46.51 | Neldogz | qmr, http://pastebin.com/AFDM6cyD |
| 22:47.42 | Neldogz | qmr, i would like to be able to show all nfs mounts if possible |
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| 22:49.15 | buildcomplete | hmm strace seems... interesting |
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| 22:51.40 | Neldogz | buildcomplete, i cant make any sense of it |
| 22:52.00 | buildcomplete | neither can I |
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| 22:53.01 | Neldogz | qmr, i guess something is not informing the file system that this mount is NFS |
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| 22:56.18 | PryMar56 | asterismo, https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2015/01/msg00055.html |
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| 22:57.45 | qmr | buildcomplete: run as root. also, if strace is not the answer, you are asking the wrong question. the exeption being when tcpdump is the answer |
| 23:00.34 | asterismo | PryMar56: mmmm, i tried this aptitude install -f |
| 23:00.42 | buildcomplete | qmr, I was puzzled why where so many instances of /usr/sbin/console-kit --no-daemon in htop, then I found out I could hide them in htop by disabling userland threads... but now you make me feel like I have to dig deeper? |
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| 23:03.20 | Felinor | Yay, i'm now a new debian user :) |
| 23:03.23 | Felinor | Noob powaa |
| 23:03.28 | teraflops | heh |
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| 23:04.55 | asterismo | PryMar56: this is the output |
| 23:04.57 | asterismo | http://paste.debian.net/160675/ |
| 23:05.18 | Neldogz | qmr, could it be mount -t nfs is not coming up because i didnt mount the share from the /etc/fstab file where you need to specify nfs? |
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| 23:07.51 | teraflops | asterismo: try LANG=C sudo aptitude install -f i think is usefull in a english spoken channel |
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| 23:08.58 | Neldogz | qmr, i give up, that didnt help |
| 23:09.10 | Neldogz | going to try with Ubuntu |
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| 23:10.40 | qmr | Neldogz: after you mount it what is the output from mount ? |
| 23:11.17 | Neldogz | qmr, mount -t nfs is empty |
| 23:11.28 | Neldogz | qmr, no output whatsoever |
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| 23:12.28 | Neldogz | qmr, the NFS share is mounted ..i can write to it..but i am just unable to show that this mount point is NFS. Which sucks for the next person that comes behind me |
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| 23:15.28 | asterismo | teraflops: sorry, here it is: http://paste.debian.net/160678/ |
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| 23:18.14 | qmr | hmm |
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| 23:26.48 | Neldogz | qmr, it works on ubuntu |
| 23:26.57 | Neldogz | some bug i guess in the package for debian |
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| 23:29.59 | asterismo | teraflops: PryMar56 any suggestions? |
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| 23:34.38 | eKyNoX | Good evening, Jessie in Frozen, pertinent to dist-upgrade on a live server ? |
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| 23:39.31 | asterismo | eKyNoX: yeah, check this out http://paste.debian.net/160678/ |
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| 23:41.28 | curby | is there some obvious reason that http://pastebin.com/kjGTbfcc didn't rotate my logs this morning? syslog doesn't seem to have reported anything relevant, and i didn't get any email from cron like i often do when there are problems |
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| 23:43.39 | curby | i made that file hours before cron.daily is supposed to run, so it shouldn't be a timing issue |
| 23:44.10 | centrx | curby, You probably have to restart logrotate to use the new configuration? |
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| 23:44.15 | centrx | restart/reload |
| 23:44.30 | shay_shay | hello. is the 3.19 kernel in experimental sans debian patches? |
| 23:44.50 | curby | centrx: oh, i didn't know that was a requirement. i thought perhaps it read the directory every morning. thanks for the tip; i'll try that :) |
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| 23:45.49 | centrx | shay_shay, If it is, it seems like it would be a mistake |
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| 23:46.24 | aphorise | Thanks for libreoffice recommendation... sorry forgot nick. |
| 23:46.37 | curby | centrx: seems like logrotate is in fact called every morning by cron. so there shouldn't be anything to restart, unless you know of something? |
| 23:47.06 | shay_shay | centrx: how hard is it to compile a kernel from 4.0 sources with debian patches? |
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| 23:48.00 | centrx | shay_shay, It might not work because (some of) the patches may have to be changed to work with the new kernel |
| 23:48.12 | centrx | shay_shay, or it might work. You can also compile a vanilla kernel, that's fine |
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| 23:49.41 | shay_shay | centrix well I will compile a vanilla kernel if I have no other chice, I will try to apply the patches first and just remove the problematic ones if I can I suppose. I would use the 3.19 kernel in experimental but the headers have unsolvable dependency for some reason |
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| 23:51.40 | shay_shay | they depend on linux-kbuild-3.19 and it does not exist |
| 23:51.54 | shay_shay | https://packages.debian.org/experimental/linux-headers-3.19.0-trunk-arm64 |
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| 23:58.37 | eKyNoX | asterismo: so not a good idea to upgrade :) |
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