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| 00:08.02 | HL3Confirmed | Haha they accidentiall klined all DigitalOcean IPv6 addresses today. |
| 00:08.17 | HL3Confirmed | Deems like Freenode has been getting attacked more than usual lately. |
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| 00:32.33 | pushpop_ | Hi all, how do I fix this issue: The following packages have been kept back: |
| 00:32.33 | pushpop_ | <PROTECTED> |
| 00:32.49 | pushpop_ | I get this when I do apt-get upgrade |
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| 00:33.28 | karlpinc | curby: See https://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ and guess when the green line hits 0. That's your release date. |
| 00:33.52 | centrx | pushpop_, what happens if you do apt-get install python-libtorrent |
| 00:33.52 | karlpinc | pushpop_: What version of debian? |
| 00:34.03 | pushpop_ | debian 7 x32 |
| 00:34.22 | karlpinc | pushpop_: Any non-debian repos in your sources.list? |
| 00:34.38 | pushpop_ | yes actually |
| 00:35.28 | HL3Confirmed | I wish my name was real. |
| 00:35.29 | karlpinc | pushpop_: That can be the issue. It's not designed to work with other repos. (The one exception being the postgresql.org repo.) See the <frankendebian> factoid. |
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| 00:35.58 | pushpop_ | thanks |
| 00:36.32 | karlpinc | pushpop_: Someone still might be able to help.... Perhaps post your source.list somewhere and give us a url and see what happens. |
| 00:36.51 | pushpop_ | i removed the sources no longer getting it |
| 00:36.53 | pushpop_ | thanks |
| 00:37.12 | HL3Confirmed | Which Kernel is latest SID using? |
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| 00:37.42 | karlpinc | pushpop_: You will probably need to be careful on upgrade to the next debian version. Be sure to follow the release notes, which will probably say to remove all non-debian stuff first and re-install it afterwards. |
| 00:38.18 | karlpinc | HL3Confirmed: The judd bot knows. (But I forgot how to ask it.) |
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| 00:49.44 | srg | Ok, I'm switching back to ftp.us.debian.org; http.debian.org (or whatever mirror it redirects me to) has been giving me errors for two days now. |
| 00:50.02 | srg | I thought the software mirror was supposed to detect this stuff and remove it from the redirection pool |
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| 00:57.54 | centrx | srg, it's http.debian.NET |
| 00:58.06 | srg | Oh yeah, that's what I meant. |
| 00:58.09 | srg | I was using .net |
| 00:58.27 | srg | it was sending me to a mirror that kept giving me hash sum mismatches and such |
| 00:59.11 | centrx | weird always works well for me |
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| 01:02.15 | srg | centrx: it probably sends you to a different (working) mirror due to a different geographical area |
| 01:02.21 | srg | the one it sends me to is buggy :-\ |
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| 01:06.06 | HL3Confirmed | I only need the First DVD to install Debian Stable right? |
| 01:06.33 | centrx | correct, or less even |
| 01:06.44 | centrx | (net install or CD) |
| 01:06.56 | Mongo44 | Has anyone here dual booted with Win8.1? I specifically want to triboot with Jessie and Wheezy. |
| 01:08.23 | HL3Confirmed | Net installs always end badly for me haha. |
| 01:08.52 | HL3Confirmed | It is fairly easy to switch from Stable to unstable or SID right? |
| 01:09.07 | HL3Confirmed | Just an update of the sources.lst? |
| 01:09.11 | srg | HL3Confirmed: For the most part, yeah, it's easy. |
| 01:09.18 | Mongo44 | I don't think you can do that. |
| 01:09.19 | srg | HL3Confirmed: What isn't easy is doing the reverse. |
| 01:09.48 | srg | Mongo44: I've done that in the past....a VPS has a stable image when setting it up, I've upgraded to testing remotely |
| 01:10.16 | srg | Update your sources.list, apt-get update, apt-get dist-upgrade, apt-get upgrade |
| 01:10.24 | HL3Confirmed | So I should just install Unstable to begin with? |
| 01:10.35 | HL3Confirmed | srg: Yeah that is what I was thinking. |
| 01:10.53 | Mongo44 | Would anyone recommend using BIOS instead of UEFI? |
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| 01:11.28 | karlpinc | Mongo44: UEFI is an entire os, that can't be patched. Sounds like a giant security hole to me. |
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| 01:12.32 | phy1729 | karlpinc: um, what? |
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| 01:12.36 | phy1729 | !uefi |
| 01:12.36 | dpkg | Unified Extensible Firmware Interface (UEFI) is a firmware interface specification, intended to replace the <BIOS> firmware interface. Debian 7 "Wheezy" supports installation in (U)EFI mode on 64-bit PC systems (amd64), <secure boot> is currently not supported. See also <errata>. http://www.uefi.org/ |
| 01:13.08 | karlpinc | phy1729: Yup. An OS in firmware. Does _way_ more than it needs to. |
| 01:13.24 | Mongo44 | Well I am all about security. I put tape over my camera. Also I only use ixquick or Startpage never Gooogle. |
| 01:13.26 | phy1729 | it also fixes a number of BIOS warts |
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| 01:13.50 | phy1729 | Mongo44: that's privacy measures not security |
| 01:14.13 | karlpinc | phy1729: Agreed. (The intel arch is full of warts anyway.) |
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| 01:15.46 | Mongo44 | I heard Win8.1 won't work well if I reinstall to use BIOS. |
| 01:15.57 | karlpinc | Mongo44: No harm in using google if you've cookies and javascript turned off. And if you don't you're being tracked anyway. But all of this is offtopic. #debian-offtopic if you like. |
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| 01:17.09 | srg | Mongo44: On OFTC. |
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| 01:35.23 | csr_ | Hi all, I'm experiencing some random freezes on debian jessie, the all system simply freeze, no console no nothing. I tried using the nvidia driver provided on non-free repository without any effect on that matter. Have anyone passed through this? |
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| 01:59.34 | csr_ | Hi all, I'm experiencing some random freezing on debian jessie, the whole system simply freezes, no console no nothing. I tried installing the nvidia driver provided on non-free repository without any effect on that matter. Have anyone passed through this? |
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| 02:06.21 | karlpinc | csr_: Anything in the logs? Anything on the console? See also #debian-next for jessie support, although someone will probably try to help here too. |
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| 02:07.03 | karlpinc | Tried running memtestx86+ or other hardware diagnostics? |
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| 02:08.21 | csr_ | karlpinc: Thanks for the feedback, I just couldn't find anything there. I looked in /var/log/messages /var/log/Xorg.0.log /var/log/kern.log |
| 02:08.38 | csr_ | I did a disk healthcheck and memtest |
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| 02:09.43 | HL3Confirmed | I am excited to be coming back to Debian for my Desktop needs |
| 02:09.49 | HL3Confirmed | It has been 3 years |
| 02:10.05 | HL3Confirmed | Aw burining the DVD failed instantly |
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| 02:26.30 | karlpinc | csr_: Using what tools? Generally to get a good memtest86+ result you need to run it overnight, or at least long enough to go through a complete test cycle at whatever temperature it eventually stablizes at. |
| 02:27.42 | karlpinc | csr_: Look also in /var/log/syslog, just in case. Also, are you sure it's entirely frozen? Does it respond to pings on the network? Can you ssh in? |
| 02:29.11 | karlpinc | csr_: Also, since it's unstable, you're expected to check bugs.debian.org. |
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| 02:33.33 | csr_ | karlpinc: I used the memtest86+(The option on grub loading) it was right after a system crash. It didn't pointed any error |
| 02:34.28 | csr_ | I just looked into syslog couldn't find anything, but its kind of late and I might not be looking close enough |
| 02:35.58 | karlpinc | csr_: Nothing shows on the console before or after? |
| 02:38.26 | csr_ | no, it just stop working and I have to reboot. I googled a lot about it and i think its something particular to my system, I might try to downgrade the kernel by version (If possible) |
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| 02:40.50 | Yukkii | Anyone know how to unlock a WD Passport on Debian? |
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| 02:41.52 | Newbie0086 | hello |
| 02:41.56 | Newbie0086 | anyone here |
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| 02:42.24 | Newbie0086 | how i use command to query the apache2 the configure file path? |
| 02:43.01 | csr_ | karlpinc: Thanks a lot for the help, but i'll have to go now. I'll look into the syslog again tomorrow and try redoing the memtest |
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| 02:44.23 | Newbie0086 | i want to use command to know where my apache2's configure file path ,anyone can help me |
| 02:45.51 | karlpinc | Newbie0086: Debian put's apache's config in /etc/apache2/ |
| 02:46.07 | Newbie0086 | what i know is "/usr/sbin/apache2 -V" but its only have only filename but path |
| 02:46.51 | Newbie0086 | karlpinc:yes,but if any command can know where it is |
| 02:46.51 | Yukkii | Anyone know how to unlock a WD Passport on Debian? Drive was locked on Windows, but the unlocker is an .exe. I have tried using Wine but it just throws and error. |
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| 02:48.21 | karlpinc | Newbie0086: I don't know that such a command exists. |
| 02:48.43 | karlpinc | Yukkii: Just what does "locked" mean? |
| 02:49.01 | Yukkii | karlpinc: Encrypted using Western Digital's included software |
| 02:49.15 | Yukkii | It doesn't seem to have Linux version, only Mac and Windows |
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| 02:50.14 | Newbie0086 | karlpinc:the centos can use "rpm -qc " to get the configure file path, |
| 02:50.18 | karlpinc | Yukkii: All I can think of is to run Windows in a vm. |
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| 02:50.25 | LiENUS | where do i go to report a broken package in debian? |
| 02:50.35 | LiENUS | and nfid how i'd even report it properly |
| 02:50.52 | Yukkii | karlpinc: Don't think I'll be able to get a VM to run on this laptop, it can barely support itself |
| 02:51.10 | Yukkii | Oh well, once I can get on my Windows machine I can unlock it, I guess |
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| 02:56.02 | karlpinc | Newbie0086: You'll get something similar from 'cat /var/lib/dpkg/info/apache2.2-common.list'. Apt must keep track of config files somewhere, but I don't know of a command that tells you of them. That does not mean that there isn't one. |
| 02:57.10 | karlpinc | Newbie0086: Many packages have a /var/lib/dpkg/info/*.conffiles file, but not apache2. |
| 02:57.25 | karlpinc | LiENUS: You use the "reportbug" program. |
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| 02:57.52 | karlpinc | !tell LiENUS about reportbug |
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| 02:58.57 | Newbie0086 | karlpinc:thanks any |
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| 03:02.29 | karlpinc | Newbie0086: See also apt-cache, apt-file, dpkg -S, and dpkg -L for related commands, none of which do what you want. |
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| 03:06.05 | Newbie0086 | karlpinc:all those commands have been tried ,but they can not work well |
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| 03:06.27 | tasaif | Hi, I have a question about empathy. Is this the right place to ask? |
| 03:08.49 | tasaif | I want to get a notification in my desktop environment (the default one) when someone in irc tags me in a message |
| 03:09.10 | bynarie | shouldnt that be built into the client? |
| 03:09.18 | newbieAlert | do files having sequential LBA have less seektime ?? |
| 03:10.09 | tasaif | bynarie: that's what I was thinking, but I can't find anything about it in either empathy or pidgin |
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| 03:10.34 | bynarie | tasaif, according to documentation, its known to be a "poor" irc client |
| 03:10.42 | bynarie | i would use hexchat |
| 03:10.58 | bynarie | it makes the window blink when u are tagged\ |
| 03:11.05 | tasaif | :| |
| 03:11.15 | bynarie | do you not like hexchat? |
| 03:11.16 | tasaif | I need a visual obstructive notification |
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| 03:11.34 | tasaif | I've never tried it |
| 03:11.52 | bynarie | maybe check it out |
| 03:11.57 | bynarie | its a fork of Xchat |
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| 03:12.18 | tasaif | damn |
| 03:12.30 | tasaif | I was hoping to avoid using multiple clients |
| 03:12.51 | tasaif | In an ideal world, I could connect to facebook, google talk, and irc (like I do in adium) |
| 03:12.54 | bynarie | sorry =[.. most ppl i know use hexchat/xchat on linux |
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| 03:13.45 | tasaif | apt-cache search hexchat yields nothing |
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| 03:14.42 | bynarie | really? |
| 03:15.07 | bynarie | are you on straight debian? |
| 03:15.39 | tasaif | I think so |
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| 03:15.46 | bynarie | i think its available on wheezy backports |
| 03:15.49 | tasaif | my release file says Debian GNU/Linux 7 (wheezy) |
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| 03:16.10 | bynarie | https://packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/hexchat |
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| 03:17.04 | bynarie | try this - > http://ftp.us.debian.org/debian/pool/main/h/hexchat/hexchat-common_2.10.0-1~bpo70+1_all.deb |
| 03:17.05 | tasaif | are the softwares in backports stable? |
| 03:17.24 | bynarie | honestly i dont know man |
| 03:17.35 | tasaif | http://backports.debian.org/ |
| 03:17.37 | tasaif | nope :| |
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| 03:17.45 | tasaif | I'll try xchat first |
| 03:17.54 | tasaif | if that doesn't pan out I'll give hexchat a try |
| 03:17.57 | bynarie | xchat is no longer maintained and is outdated |
| 03:18.06 | bynarie | definitely dont recommend xchat |
| 03:18.22 | bynarie | hexchat is dam near the exact same thing |
| 03:18.36 | bynarie | but its up to you |
| 03:18.38 | tasaif | right, but xchat is available in stable |
| 03:18.50 | bynarie | sure, give it a shot |
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| 03:19.41 | tasaif | tasaif_: notify me plz |
| 03:20.30 | tasaif | didn't work fyi |
| 03:21.07 | bynarie | what doesnt work? the notify?? |
| 03:21.28 | tasaif | yea, it'll play a sound but it looks like you would need to download or make a plugin to get a visual notification |
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| 03:21.39 | bynarie | thats wierd |
| 03:21.55 | bynarie | i mean im on ubuntu, but i thought it would be the same |
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| 03:33.59 | jinsdhie | hi |
| 03:34.49 | jinsdhie | hello |
| 03:34.55 | karlpinc | !ask |
| 03:34.55 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
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| 03:35.53 | jinsdhie | what is the stable distro for network |
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| 03:39.47 | jinsdhie | what is alternative for ZFS? |
| 03:41.56 | Ooze | What's the best way to open a serial console from the terminal? |
| 03:42.35 | jinsdhie | ctrl+alt + T |
| 03:42.49 | Ooze | I'm sshd in |
| 03:42.58 | WilliamDotSI | jinsdhie, Hardware RAID6, Microsoft ReFS, not much in the linux workd |
| 03:43.01 | WilliamDotSI | *world |
| 03:45.52 | jinsdhie | WillianDotSI, Thanks also Im Looking for stable distro for network |
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| 03:50.24 | phy1729 | jinsdhie: there's btrfs but some (including me) don't consider it ready for production |
| 03:50.43 | shay_shay | jinsdhie: it's totally ready for production |
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| 03:51.46 | shay_shay | i switched from zfs to btrfs to convert my nas to linux. i weighed the pros and cons vs doing ZoL |
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| 03:52.44 | shay_shay | jinsdhie: check out ars article on btrfs: http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2014/01/bitrot-and-atomic-cows-inside-next-gen-filesystems/ |
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| 03:54.03 | jinsdhie | shay_shay is it fast and stable? |
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| 03:54.42 | jinsdhie | phy1729 thanks guys ill try btrfs |
| 03:55.08 | shay_shay | yeah its stable I would recommend using backport kernel though |
| 03:55.55 | shay_shay | a lot of improvments have been made since wheezy |
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| 03:56.52 | jinsdhie | i have small internet cafe business. i want to build a great diskless server. |
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| 03:58.35 | tasaif | bynarie: hexchat doesn't do it either |
| 03:59.02 | shay_shay | jinsdhie: are you planning kn using iscsi for that? |
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| 03:59.10 | shay_shay | s/kn/on |
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| 04:01.44 | tasaif_ | hexchat does have the option in the preferences |
| 04:01.46 | tasaif_ | thanks bynarie |
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| 04:02.16 | jinsdhie | basically it is already up and running with ZFS + GPXE + ISCSI and clients are Windows 7 x64. what is s/kn/on? |
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| 04:02.59 | Josh` | I'm having an issue running transmission-daemon from systemd. The daemon starts, I get output on the configured log file, but systemctl says "job failed". It's as though systemd isnt getting verification that transmission-daemon is running |
| 04:03.09 | bynarie | no problem |
| 04:03.09 | shay_shay | jinsdhie: i was correcting my typo, "kn" replaced by "on" |
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| 04:06.21 | shay_shay | jinsdhie: fbsd/zfs might be your best bet. you just really want to run debian you can try compiling ZoL or if youre brave debian-kfreebsd |
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| 04:07.11 | Yukkii | So, uh |
| 04:07.32 | shay_shay | jinsdhie: this page outlines how to build ZoL: https://wiki.debian.org/CreatePackageFromPPA |
| 04:07.32 | Yukkii | I installed libc on Wheezy, and am trying to run musique |
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| 04:07.50 | Yukkii | But it says it requires GLIBC_2.14 |
| 04:07.58 | HL3Confirmed | I am officially On Debian again after 4 years, yey! |
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| 04:08.10 | shay_shay | \o/ |
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| 04:08.31 | HL3Confirmed | I am so used to the installer adding the user into the sudorers file |
| 04:08.37 | HL3Confirmed | I have to do it manually |
| 04:08.38 | jinsdhie | shay_shay im good with gpxe now. im looking for the best network distro for diskless server? and i cant able to boot windows 7 x64 with winaoe drivers. |
| 04:09.06 | Yukkii | Could I get some help with my issue? |
| 04:11.12 | shay_shay | Yukkii: what glibc did you install? |
| 04:11.36 | Yukkii | shay_shay: libc-dev, the only one I could find in aptitude |
| 04:12.02 | HL3Confirmed | My font is really big in irssi, I wonder if it is just my resolution or the system font size. |
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| 04:12.18 | shay_shay | HL3Confirmed: in a VT? |
| 04:12.49 | HL3Confirmed | shay_shay: yes |
| 04:13.04 | HL3Confirmed | gnome terminal |
| 04:13.25 | jinsdhie | shay_shay thank you BRB |
| 04:13.51 | HL3Confirmed | I just adjusted the font down to 10 in Gnome Terminal |
| 04:13.59 | HL3Confirmed | Gnome3 is really weird. |
| 04:14.06 | Yukkii | KDE<3 |
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| 04:18.33 | Yukkii | Seems you can't get libc >= 2.14 on Wheezy |
| 04:20.19 | shay_shay | Yukkii: you can install it manually to /usr/local/lib and add that to your $LD_LIBRARY_PATH temporarily when you launch a program that needs it. you can do this by making an alias for that program |
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| 04:21.58 | Yukkii | I'm pretty new to all of this, how exactly would I do this? |
| 04:22.43 | shay_shay | alias musique='LD_LIBRARY_PATH=/usr/local/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH musique' >> .bash_profile |
| 04:23.01 | shay_shay | that way the path is changed for that program only |
| 04:23.39 | shay_shay | i havent tested that but the idea will work. you will need to get the correct version of glibc from somewhere |
| 04:24.15 | Yukkii | shay_shay: Typing what you suggested outputs ".bash_profile: No such file or directory" |
| 04:24.36 | shay_shay | Yukkii: >> in bash appends to a file |
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| 04:25.10 | Yukkii | Hm |
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| 04:26.13 | shay_shay | Yukkii: you might have a ~/.profile or a ~/.bash_profile |
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| 04:27.25 | HL3Confirmed | How does defaultWheezy install deal with Gnome Shell stuff? Like how can I install Gnome Shell Themes? |
| 04:27.39 | HL3Confirmed | default wheezy |
| 04:27.51 | shay_shay | every time you login that .profile or .bash_profile will be executed and therefore your alias will be loaded |
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| 04:28.12 | Yukkii | So I'll have to reboot first? |
| 04:28.14 | shay_shay | that includes tty1 where your x server is running |
| 04:28.34 | shay_shay | no just restart x but you can get it working in a terminal first |
| 04:29.19 | shay_shay | yeah reboot might be the easiest way ... but get it working in terminal first |
| 04:30.15 | Yukkii | erm |
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| 04:31.29 | shay_shay | Yukkii: google ld_library_path |
| 04:31.58 | HL3Confirmed | Is there a guide for using the Gnome3 Setup wheezy comes with? |
| 04:32.23 | HL3Confirmed | I can't even find the gnome tweak tool |
| 04:32.41 | shay_shay | Yukkii: try this echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH, see if it says /usr/local/lib |
| 04:32.46 | Yukkii | Came up with "Why LD_LIBRARY_PATH is bad" |
| 04:32.47 | Yukkii | lol |
| 04:33.11 | Yukkii | Yeah, came back with /usr/local/lib |
| 04:33.36 | shay_shay | anything else? order matters. can you paste it? |
| 04:34.06 | Yukkii | root@dev:/# echo $LD_LIBRARY_PATH |
| 04:34.06 | Yukkii | /usr/local/lib: |
| 04:34.43 | shay_shay | ok. so if you put libraries in there they will override your system libraries |
| 04:35.13 | shay_shay | but... dont put the library there, make a different directory |
| 04:35.15 | Yukkii | How would I make install glibc to a specific directory? |
| 04:35.37 | Yukkii | Ah, nvm |
| 04:35.39 | Yukkii | Google |
| 04:36.07 | shay_shay | so you can change the variable to the ld_library_path temporarily only when executing a single progeam |
| 04:36.13 | shay_shay | program* |
| 04:36.16 | HL3Confirmed | Is gnome3 even fully installed when you select Debian Desktop? |
| 04:36.24 | Yukkii | I see |
| 04:38.26 | Yukkii | configure: error: you must configure in a separate build directory |
| 04:38.26 | Yukkii | root@dev:/home/alex/Downloads/glibc-2.21# |
| 04:38.28 | Yukkii | .. |
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| 04:39.19 | Yukkii | Oh nvm |
| 04:39.22 | Yukkii | I feel stupid |
| 04:39.30 | Yukkii | Shouldn't be doing this with a fever lol |
| 04:39.50 | shay_shay | Yukkii: just get it from jessie |
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| 04:40.29 | shay_shay | add jessie to your sources and use "apt-get -t jessie download glibc" |
| 04:40.55 | HL3Confirmed | How do I install a package that is in backports for wheezy? |
| 04:40.56 | shay_shay | that will download the .deb and you can extract it with file roller |
| 04:41.13 | HL3Confirmed | like this one https://packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/mate-desktop-environment-extras |
| 04:41.19 | shay_shay | and then remove jessie from your sources before you forget |
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| 04:43.22 | HL3Confirmed | Anyone? |
| 04:44.08 | shay_shay | Yukkii: https://packages.debian.org/jessie/libc6 |
| 04:44.39 | shay_shay | HL3Confirmed: you have to edit your sources.list |
| 04:45.29 | HL3Confirmed | and add what source? |
| 04:45.55 | Yukkii | shay_shay: How do I install this without removing the "stock" glibc? |
| 04:46.00 | HL3Confirmed | I can't even find decent documentation on what "Debian-desktop" is? |
| 04:46.14 | HL3Confirmed | Seems like some stripped version of Gnome3? |
| 04:46.57 | shay_shay | !tell HL3Confirmed about wheezy backports |
| 04:47.59 | shay_shay | HL3Confirmed: debian-desktop i think its a metapackage which depends on other packages which should be installed on a desktop |
| 04:48.29 | shay_shay | or something like that |
| 04:48.45 | HL3Confirmed | Thx |
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| 04:49.25 | HL3Confirmed | You should change that factoid to incluse an actual path to sources.lst |
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| 04:49.33 | HL3Confirmed | include |
| 04:49.50 | shay_shay | i cant change it its not my bot :P |
| 04:49.55 | nkuttler | man sources.list will tell you |
| 04:49.56 | HL3Confirmed | I take it, it is somewhere like /etc/apt/ ? |
| 04:50.19 | HL3Confirmed | nkuttler: The point is the bot would be more useful if it just told you.. |
| 04:50.28 | Yukkii | shay_shay: How do I install this without removing the "stock" glibc? |
| 04:50.43 | nkuttler | HL3Confirmed: you're the first person i've ever seen complain about it |
| 04:51.15 | nkuttler | shay_shay: btw, everybody can edit factoids |
| 04:51.36 | shay_shay | Yukkii: you can extract it with file roller and then place them in a directory of your choosing |
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| 04:52.00 | shay_shay | that way your wheezy libraries remain untouched |
| 04:52.07 | shay_shay | nkuttler: good to know |
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| 04:52.53 | shay_shay | Yukkii: /usr/local is the place for things installed outside of package managers control |
| 04:53.09 | HL3Confirmed | nkuttler: I wasn't complaining.. I was simply stating the factoid would be more useful if it included a path to sources.list.. |
| 04:53.13 | Yukkii | shay_shay: I see |
| 04:53.15 | HL3Confirmed | Pretty simple statement. |
| 04:53.50 | shay_shay | Yukkii: you can make a directory like /usr/local/lib/blahblah |
| 04:54.26 | Yukkii | shay_shay: Would Ark work for extracting it? |
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| 04:56.34 | shay_shay | ya |
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| 04:57.50 | HL3Confirmed | Is there some way to ping all the mirrors and see which one is fastes for you? |
| 04:57.53 | HL3Confirmed | Some script? |
| 04:57.56 | shay_shay | Yukkii: observe how this launcher works https://github.com/GhostSquad57/Steam-Installer-for-Wheezy/blob/master/steam-debian_source/usr/bin/steam-debian |
| 04:58.39 | nkuttler | !tell HL3Confirmed about apt-spy |
| 04:59.01 | shay_shay | Yukkii: it temporarily changes LD_LIBRARY_PATH for that one command, points to libraries in another directory |
| 04:59.21 | Yukkii | shay_shay: I see |
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| 05:00.20 | HL3Confirmed | thx nkuttler |
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| 05:00.44 | shay_shay | Yukkii: steam for wheezy does what youre trying to do with that other app, so if you disect that github repo you can figure the rest of this out on your own |
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| 05:03.18 | HL3Confirmed | Whn I do apt-spy update I get .. Error: 22: The requested URL returned error: 404 |
| 05:03.21 | HL3Confirmed | Failed to download mirror list. Exiting. |
| 05:03.47 | Yukkii | How do I move a directory? (\./) |
| 05:03.51 | Yukkii | mv omits it |
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| 05:04.25 | BenLue | hello together, how can i make an autofiledownload in specific folder, like wget http://myfile.de/test.txt /home/user |
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| 05:05.21 | HL3Confirmed | Yeah http://http.us.debian.org/debian/README.mirrors.txt is down |
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| 05:05.30 | HL3Confirmed | and that is what apt-apy update uses. |
| 05:05.35 | HL3Confirmed | apt-spy |
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| 05:05.46 | HL3Confirmed | Should I file a bug report? |
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| 05:06.07 | HL3Confirmed | Well the URL is malformed as well. |
| 05:06.20 | HL3Confirmed | http://http.. |
| 05:07.26 | nkuttler | HL3Confirmed: eh, that sucks |
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| 05:07.52 | HL3Confirmed | Well lets tell upstream :) |
| 05:08.10 | HL3Confirmed | us.debian.org isn't even an active domain. |
| 05:08.11 | nkuttler | HL3Confirmed: try netselect-apt? |
| 05:08.25 | HL3Confirmed | will that change what apt-spy uses? |
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| 05:09.29 | Yukkii | woah |
| 05:09.29 | nkuttler | HL3Confirmed: no, it's a similar tool |
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| 05:11.08 | HL3Confirmed | That is a lot of nick changes |
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| 05:11.25 | Delf | I've started to get these every time I reboot. Whats the deal? http://paste.debian.net/160880/ |
| 05:11.26 | HL3Confirmed | Okay but about apt-spy should I file a bug report? |
| 05:11.32 | Yukkii | shay_shay: Could you PM me the links and commands? IRSSI isn't liking me right now |
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| 05:13.19 | epsilon | Delf: hardware clock is wrong, maybe empty battery on the mainboard |
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| 05:14.00 | shay_shay | Yukkii: i'm going to bed. |
| 05:14.05 | shay_shay | sorry :P |
| 05:14.10 | Delf | epsilon: Would it matter even if it's empty? Computer still has power, and I'm not shutting it down, just rebooting it. |
| 05:14.17 | Yukkii | shay_shay: :p |
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| 05:24.20 | HL3Confirmed | So doing aptitude update as root I get to about get 20 and get a bunch of W: Failed to fetch ftp://mirrors.kernel.org/debian/dists/wheezy/updates/main/source/Sources: Unable to fetch file, server said 'Failed to open file. ' [IP: 198.145.20.143 21] |
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| 05:24.42 | HL3Confirmed | is it just the mirror or is my system screwed up? |
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| 05:26.19 | HL3Confirmed | Same with apt-get update or using synaptic? |
| 05:27.01 | nkuttler | !tell HL3Confirmed about sources.list |
| 05:27.07 | nkuttler | HL3Confirmed: you should pick the cdn mirror anyway |
| 05:27.37 | HL3Confirmed | I have tried a bunch of mirrors |
| 05:27.46 | HL3Confirmed | it is doing the same thing everytime |
| 05:28.07 | HL3Confirmed | Why did you have the bot tell me about sources.list again? |
| 05:28.42 | nkuttler | HL3Confirmed: because you're not using the info it gave you? |
| 05:28.49 | newbieAlert | hey hi, is there any way to write to a certain LBA range ??? |
| 05:28.58 | HL3Confirmed | Yes I am |
| 05:29.08 | HL3Confirmed | I already updated my sources.list |
| 05:29.18 | HL3Confirmed | nkuttler: How would you even know? |
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| 05:29.30 | nkuttler | HL3Confirmed: paste.debian.net your /etc/apt/sources.list |
| 05:29.35 | HL3Confirmed | okay |
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| 05:31.15 | HL3Confirmed | nkuttler: http://pastie.org/10020207 |
| 05:31.37 | nkuttler | HL3Confirmed: that's not what the bot told you |
| 05:32.06 | nkuttler | the cdn uses http.debian.net |
| 05:32.14 | HL3Confirmed | cdn? |
| 05:32.25 | HL3Confirmed | I am using the fastest available mirrors |
| 05:32.37 | HL3Confirmed | I have tried 8 diffrenet mirrirs anyways |
| 05:32.44 | HL3Confirmed | mirrors |
| 05:32.51 | nkuttler | no, you want to do that, but your mirror is faulty |
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| 05:33.30 | HL3Confirmed | I just said I have tried 8 different mirrors |
| 05:33.38 | HL3Confirmed | and that is the one I net installed from.. |
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| 05:33.49 | HL3Confirmed | So doubt it is faulty.. |
| 05:34.02 | nkuttler | what is your support question then |
| 05:34.08 | HL3Confirmed | I just told you |
| 05:34.20 | HL3Confirmed | Sorry your solution was incorrect? |
| 05:34.20 | nkuttler | no. you seem to jump from question to question |
| 05:34.26 | shay_shay | HL3Confirmed: paste your sources.list on paatebin |
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| 05:34.37 | HL3Confirmed | No you seem to answer question after question incorrectly |
| 05:34.47 | HL3Confirmed | No.. pastie.org is fine.. |
| 05:34.58 | nkuttler | shay_shay: he's just trolling |
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| 05:35.04 | HL3Confirmed | I am not trolling wtf? |
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| 05:35.51 | HL3Confirmed | Because you can't help me I am trolling? Or because I won't use the paste site you want? Why do I have to use Pastebin vs Pastie.org? |
| 05:36.15 | HL3Confirmed | I pasted my sources.list |
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| 05:36.28 | HL3Confirmed | I have tried 8 different mirrors, same error. |
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| 05:36.59 | HL3Confirmed | And all you have said is "22:32 < nkuttler> no, you want to do that, but your mirror is faulty |
| 05:37.03 | shay_shay | i was not specific about which paste{bin,ie} to use lol |
| 05:37.17 | nkuttler | HL3Confirmed: there's really no point in talking to me any more |
| 05:37.21 | HL3Confirmed | shay_shay: Oh, sorry I did paste it already. |
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| 05:37.58 | HL3Confirmed | nkuttler: You can say that again, you don't speak english well or you are just trying to troll.. You litterally said nothing I could use.. |
| 05:38.22 | HL3Confirmed | You said change my mirror.. I said I tried 8.. you say I am trolling? |
| 05:38.53 | themill | HL3Confirmed: please try http.debian.net as the bot says and pastebin the full output of "apt-get update" |
| 05:38.55 | newbieAlert | HL3Confirmed: hey if you deal with file systesm please help me with LBA stuff. |
| 05:40.17 | MaxLanar | Hello guys, I'm using testing and wonder what is the best for my sources.list to point to (in that period), jessie or testing ? I don't mind to use the stable version of debian when jessie will be out nor going on with testing. I just want a working box :D |
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| 05:40.44 | themill | MaxLanar: you probably don't want to touch the new testing for a few months after release, in that case |
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| 05:41.04 | HL3Confirmed | themill: So just the 3 lines the bot says? no updates? |
| 05:41.40 | themill | ? |
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| 05:42.17 | MaxLanar | themill: so - for now - and the months coming I let "jessie" in my sources.list ? |
| 05:42.24 | themill | MaxLanar: yes |
| 05:42.53 | MaxLanar | themill: Ok, thanks for the advice ! |
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| 05:43.25 | HL3Confirmed | themill: The bot says to have only 3 lines.. doesnt include the update ones.. |
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| 05:43.36 | HL3Confirmed | volitile.. |
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| 05:44.20 | HL3Confirmed | themill: So I ran it with just the 3 lines the bot says and it works fine.. but I want non-free contrib backports etc.. |
| 05:44.49 | HL3Confirmed | And a Mirror that isn't thats slow... it was less than 200 kb/s |
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| 05:45.05 | themill | HL3Confirmed: I have no idea what line you're wanting to include in addition to the what the bot says. There's already wheezy/updates and wheezy-updates in what you just pasted |
| 05:45.18 | themill | HL3Confirmed: I think you'd do better having a working mirror rather than a fast mirror. |
| 05:45.30 | HL3Confirmed | sub 300k is not working.. |
| 05:45.45 | HL3Confirmed | So atre you saying most of the mirrors are broken besides that one? |
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| 05:45.59 | HL3Confirmed | I have to install literally thousands of packages over the next few days. |
| 05:46.28 | themill | How about that output? |
| 05:46.38 | HL3Confirmed | from just the 3 lines? |
| 05:46.46 | HL3Confirmed | and aptitude update? |
| 05:47.00 | themill | [16:38] <themill> HL3Confirmed: please try http.debian.net as the bot says and pastebin the full output of "apt-get update" |
| 05:47.29 | HL3Confirmed | http://pastie.org/10020217 |
| 05:47.35 | HL3Confirmed | I told you it worked fine.. |
| 05:47.41 | HL3Confirmed | But here you go? |
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| 05:49.09 | HL3Confirmed | an I put backports back in now? |
| 05:49.13 | HL3Confirmed | can |
| 05:49.24 | themill | thanks. That answers your question about whether your connection is ok. Yes, adding in contrib/non-free/backports would be ok. |
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| 05:56.13 | HL3Confirmed | it was because I had http and ftp sources |
| 05:56.37 | HL3Confirmed | I fixed it with help from shay_shay |
| 05:56.42 | HL3Confirmed | Thx again shay_shay |
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| 05:57.34 | HL3Confirmed | because netselect-apt breaks your source.list |
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| 05:58.12 | themill | More likely it is because your network is eating ftp connections (which is one of the reasons nkuttler and I wanted you to test it with http.debian.net) |
| 05:59.30 | HL3Confirmed | I am using only FTP now |
| 05:59.34 | HL3Confirmed | and it works fine |
| 05:59.47 | HL3Confirmed | that tool was duplicating FTP and HTTP Mirrors |
| 05:59.58 | HL3Confirmed | and the other tool apt-spy is broken all together |
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| 06:01.34 | HL3Confirmed | anyways it is all working now, thanks everyone. |
| 06:01.47 | HL3Confirmed | I can install my headers now and start installing important things |
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| 06:05.56 | darxmurf | hi all |
| 06:06.01 | muhGNUdoh | hello! |
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| 06:15.26 | HL3Confirmed | Is there a way to get Synaptic Package Manager to Search and install from Backports? |
| 06:17.22 | HL3Confirmed | Nevermind Mate's Software manager does it out of the box, kind of cool. |
| 06:18.25 | shay_shay | well theyre both front ends for the command line tools. they have backports enabled because you added it in your sources.list |
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| 06:19.36 | HL3Confirmed | Yup |
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| 06:20.39 | darxmurf | HL3Confirmed: you can show differents versions with apt-cache policy <package> |
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| 06:23.28 | HL3Confirmed | darxmurf: Thanks, I did not know that. |
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| 06:24.02 | darxmurf | if there is any differences between backports and original of course |
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| 06:27.59 | shay_shay | !tell HL3Confirmed about ssb |
| 06:28.04 | shay_shay | related^ |
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| 06:31.29 | HL3Confirmed | Sweet |
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| 06:38.42 | HL3Confirmed | Is there somewhere I should report packages with missing dependencies? |
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| 06:41.04 | shay_shay | example? |
| 06:41.41 | shay_shay | whats the example |
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| 06:49.53 | jinsdhie | how to execute root command in php |
| 06:50.54 | HL3Confirmed | shay_shay: monodevelop depends on mono-complete and gtk-sharp2 |
| 06:51.42 | HL3Confirmed | But they arent setup as dependencies in the repos.. and w/o them monodevelop will no even start, with no errors. |
| 06:52.03 | HL3Confirmed | Only reason I figured it out http://stackoverflow.com/questions/25791149/monodevelop-will-not-start-in-mint-17 |
| 06:52.27 | HL3Confirmed | I know the user is asking about mint but same problem for Debian |
| 06:52.41 | HL3Confirmed | I think Mint just uses Debian SID repos anyways |
| 06:53.11 | HL3Confirmed | jinsdhie: try ##Programming or #PHP |
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| 07:17.16 | shay_shay | HL3Confirmed: file a bug on the bug tracker... mint does not |
| 07:17.26 | themill | (there's already one there) |
| 07:17.30 | shay_shay | use sid... |
| 07:17.51 | shay_shay | sorry i meant to delete the mint comment, off topic I know |
| 07:17.58 | shay_shay | :P |
| 07:18.21 | shay_shay | tired |
| 07:18.27 | redcheckers | tried. |
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| 07:19.23 | trysten | so, i guess, how do i use syslog? i'm trying to get to the logs for lighttpd. it's saying that it uses syslogd for access logging |
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| 07:27.08 | shay_shay | tail |
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| 07:27.43 | trysten | shay_shay: where are the files? |
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| 07:34.11 | HL3Confirmed | themill: No there isn't |
| 07:34.29 | HL3Confirmed | It has been missing those depends for over 2 years. |
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| 07:35.06 | themill | ahh, it really is you isn't it. You'll still argue until the cows come home even when you've got no idea what you're talking about. |
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| 07:36.12 | HL3Confirmed | ? |
| 07:36.34 | HL3Confirmed | You are the one who has no clue what he is talking about bro. |
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| 07:37.02 | trysten | hahahaha |
| 07:37.18 | trysten | don't make an arese of yourself, HL3Confirmed |
| 07:37.29 | themill | Do take this opportunity to read #742038. |
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| 07:56.00 | cnodell | trysten: It looks like the logs should be in /var/log/lighttpd/ (I can't verify though as i am not running lighttpd myself. Most log files will be in /var/log/ though... |
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| 07:57.27 | trysten | cnodell: thanks. i was reading those, and managed to noob on mod_access but none of it was helpful. i was expecting some kind of verbose output somewhere, but i'm finding it's not a thing |
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| 07:58.28 | trysten | anyways, i figured out my problem. just a weak understanding of the necessary permissions to get lighttpd to work. the actual files it is serving must be readable, not just executable. i'm dum! thanks for the help, cnodell |
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| 07:59.42 | cnodell | trysten: Not dumb, just learning... No problem! |
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| 08:46.36 | YamakasY | !moo |
| 08:46.36 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you could be too; join us all! type apt-get moo; aplay /usr/lib/libreoffice/share/gallery/sounds/cow.wav |
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| 09:01.52 | jinsdhie | <shay_shay> is there any web interface or admininitration management for ZFS? |
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| 09:16.00 | DarsVaeda | not sure this is a debian or gnome question...I have an app that needs root permissions (host-switcher, switches between different host file configs) - I want to autostart it which works but then I have to enter the password again after login, can I start it with root privileges on startup? |
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| 09:16.20 | DarsVaeda | I just read that starting a graphical app with root permissions is insecure |
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| 09:18.49 | otyugh | or sudoers, or systemd I guess, DarsVaeda. Best would be to know what it needs, maybe you are just not part of the right group that would grant you enought permission without being root |
| 09:18.49 | gump | hey #debian, i'm about to blow my brains out. been trying to get nvidia-drivers from non-free working for about 2 days |
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| 09:19.31 | gump | after installing everything correctly, i just boot into a black screen with a blinking cursor. can ctr alt f1 to get terminal, but can't use gui anymore |
| 09:19.46 | gump | running modprobe nvidia returns something like "nvidia_final not found" |
| 09:19.47 | DarsVaeda | otyugh, I think it is because hosts file is restricted to root access only which I rather want to keep ;) |
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| 09:20.19 | gump | if no one wants to help me with non-free stuff, i understand. at this point i'd love to just get nouveau working again |
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| 09:20.29 | head22_ | hi |
| 09:20.36 | otyugh | what is this app gump? |
| 09:20.43 | gump | what app? |
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| 09:21.19 | otyugh | .I have an app that needs root permissions |
| 09:21.26 | babilen | gump: Have you tried following https://wiki.debian.org/NvidiaGraphicsDrivers ? |
| 09:21.30 | head22_ | how to please manually dis-assemble mdraid array temporarily ? |
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| 09:21.46 | gump | head22_, yes those are the exact steps i followed |
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| 09:22.20 | gump | nvidia-detect can't detect my gpu though. i think most of the nvidia utilities aren't working correctly with the newest kernel maybe? |
| 09:23.13 | gump | definitely got linux-headers-$(uname -r) or whatever set up correctly, but it still seems to have trouble with the kernel version |
| 09:23.19 | babilen | gump: I don't think you would require nvidia-detect at all. You simply require the pciid of the device and compare that to the database ... What is it? (lspci -nn|grep -i vga) |
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| 09:23.57 | SynrGy | DarsVaeda: not sure what "switches between different host file configs" means. as for "starting a graphical app with root permissions", you certainly don't want to start a whole desktop with root, but there's nothing wrong with starting an individual app with root, if that application's purpose is to do something privileged. there are wrappers (gksu, gksudo, kdesudo) that will do that for you. |
| 09:24.12 | SynrGy | DarsVaeda: is this "host-switcher" provided by debian? |
| 09:24.17 | SynrGy | i can't find it |
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| 09:24.48 | gump | babilen, i see 0300 and 10de:1401 |
| 09:24.55 | babilen | 10de:1401 it is |
| 09:25.09 | gump | either way, what do i do with that information? the driver won't load x correctly |
| 09:25.54 | SynrGy | DarsVaeda: everything you run as root puts you at risk. the more complex the software, the greater the risk. so i would not, for example, run a web browser (very complex, not focused on doing privileged things) as root. |
| 09:25.58 | babilen | judd: pciid 10de:1401 |
| 09:25.59 | judd | [10de:1401] is 'GM206 [GeForce GTX 960]' from 'NVIDIA Corporation' with kernel modules 'nouveau', 'snd-hda-intel' in wheezy. See also http://kmuto.jp/debian/hcl/index.rhtmlx?check=1&lspci=10de:1401 and the out-of-tree 'snd-hda-intel' module. |
| 09:26.01 | gump | "modprobe: error: could not insert 'nvidia_current': no such device |
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| 09:26.38 | gump | judd, those are main packages, i'm trying to get a non-free package working |
| 09:26.51 | mjt | judd is a bot |
| 09:26.55 | DarsVaeda | SynrG, host-switcher just swaps the content of /etc/hosts |
| 09:26.56 | gump | lol jkjk |
| 09:26.56 | babilen | gump: Neither 304 nor 340 support that device |
| 09:27.04 | SynrGy | DarsVaeda: but i would run other things whose sole purpose is to do privileged things as root (gparted, synaptic), trusting the maintainers are aware that they need to be more careful and have designed the application accordingly |
| 09:27.08 | DarsVaeda | so I can mock google.com to localhost for example |
| 09:27.12 | SynrGy | oh, i see. |
| 09:27.28 | DarsVaeda | need it for development |
| 09:27.29 | SynrGy | DarsVaeda: where'd you get it from? do you trust this code? |
| 09:27.29 | babilen | gump: You check which version you need for that GPU, you can do so by looking at the respective README.txt in ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/ (e.g. ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/340.65/README/README.txt ) |
| 09:27.48 | DarsVaeda | google code I guess it is okay |
| 09:28.13 | SynrGy | DarsVaeda: add a NOPASSWD entry for it in /etc/sudoers for you |
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| 09:28.20 | SynrGy | DarsVaeda: then wrap it in gksudo |
| 09:28.29 | head22_ | how to please manually dis-assemble mdraid array temporarily? I need to manually mount for the test a one member of raid1 volume |
| 09:28.56 | head22_ | I don't want to harm a data |
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| 09:29.56 | SynrGy | DarsVaeda: for example, supposing you have a ~/.config/autostart/host-switcher.desktop, instead of Exec=host-switcher, have Exec=gksudo host-switcher |
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| 09:30.13 | SynrGy | DarsVaeda: adapt this solution to whatever autostart mechanism you actually use |
| 09:30.18 | DarsVaeda | I read about the nopasswd, thanks :) |
| 09:30.31 | babilen | gump: I can see that it is supported in 346.47 (cf. ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/346.47/README/README.txt ) but that version is not packaged in Debian. You find 343.36-1 in experimental (an option if you track jessie/sid) or you could install 346.47 via the (unsupported by us!) .run installer that comes with the driver |
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| 09:31.15 | babilen | gump: That card is simply rather new and you need a very recent version of the driver. The old drivers in wheezy (nor the newer ones in jessie/sid) are recent enough for your card. |
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| 09:31.40 | halcyforn | hello. idk how to do one thing. i have 2 monitors big on left and smaller on right side. is somewhere option to lock left monitor i want only change workspace on right monitor. i use kde. |
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| 09:32.10 | babilen | gump: This whole "checking the version" is important and the reason why we include the "Identification" section and "supported devices" links on the wiki |
| 09:33.21 | SynrGy | head22_: man mdadm was no help? |
| 09:34.14 | SynrGy | head22_: 'Manage' looks promising, since it says "... such as ... removing faulty devices" |
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| 09:35.03 | SynrGy | head22_: under that heading, --remove. but i would actually read the man page if i were you |
| 09:35.31 | SynrGy | it needs to be marked failed first |
| 09:36.29 | head22_ | SynrGy: so I'll put one member faulty first and then remove, then mount removed memeber and then re-add again (after umounting) ? |
| 09:36.43 | head22_ | thanks |
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| 09:37.49 | gump | well, i tried the .run from the vendor and it doesn't like my kernel. it returns your kernel headers for kernel 3.16.0-4-amd64 cannot be found |
| 09:38.00 | babilen | gump: So install them |
| 09:38.06 | gump | they are installed |
| 09:38.40 | babilen | gump: Prove it! Paste the output of "dpkg -l 'linux-*'" to http://paste.debian.net |
| 09:39.18 | gump | unless i can post to pastebin from init 3, that might be difficult. i can type it though |
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| 09:39.29 | SynrGy | head22_: that's my understanding. my experience with raid, however, could be described as 'basic' ... so i'm wholly reliant on the doc to tell me how it works. |
| 09:40.19 | head22_ | SynrGy: mdadm --manage -f /dev/md0 |
| 09:40.42 | SynrGy | head22_: uh? md0 isn't a member |
| 09:40.49 | head22_ | does nothing. mdadm --detail /dev/md0 or /proc/mdstat do not indicate that's faulted |
| 09:40.59 | head22_ | a-ha |
| 09:41.09 | SynrGy | you need to fail a member drive |
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| 09:41.18 | head22_ | SynrGy: # mdadm --manage -f /dev/sdb1 |
| 09:41.19 | head22_ | mdadm: /dev/sdb1 does not appear to be an md device |
| 09:41.31 | gump | babilen, it says "header files for linux 3.16.0-4-amd64" |
| 09:41.47 | mjt | head22_: -f requires 2 devices, the array and the member of it |
| 09:41.57 | SynrGy | nods |
| 09:42.04 | gump | "ii-linux-headers- 3.16.7-ckt7-" etc |
| 09:42.13 | babilen | gump: Do you have a working network connection on the box? |
| 09:42.30 | gump | yes |
| 09:42.39 | babilen | dpkg: tell gump -about pastebinit |
| 09:42.45 | gump | cripes |
| 09:42.53 | gump | i don't have a working graphical interface |
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| 09:43.12 | gump | i am running from init 3 because gdm crashes |
| 09:43.19 | head22_ | mjt: thanks |
| 09:43.54 | babilen | gump: Yes, you said that already. I don't quite understand the ramifications though. Could you elaborate on how exactly a lack of a gui prevents you from using a command line tool? |
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| 09:44.25 | gump | sorry, it's late and i'm tired. thought you were telling me to post to pastebin |
| 09:44.42 | babilen | gump: Furthermore I am not sure which kernel the .run actually targets. You might require headers for *all* installed kernels. |
| 09:45.13 | babilen | gump: Yes, I am telling you to paste to a pastebin, but to use the "pastebinit" command line tool to do so. If you prefer to continue this another time that is fine by me. |
| 09:45.33 | gump | so i can pipe commands to pastebinit? |
| 09:45.41 | babilen | exactly |
| 09:45.44 | babilen | dpkg: pastebinit |
| 09:45.44 | gump | ie ifconfig>pastebinit? |
| 09:45.45 | dpkg | pastebinit is a command-line tool to send data to a <pastebin>. NOTE: Debian 6.0 "Squeeze" users, you must "pastebinit -b http://paste.debian.net" or configure pastebinit to use something other than pastebin.com. To paste e.g. your sources.list do "aptitude install pastebinit; pastebinit /etc/apt/sources.list"; to paste the output of a program do e.g. "dmesg | pastebinit". See also <pastebinit config>, <nopaste>. |
| 09:45.55 | babilen | gump: ^^^ the bot sent you that in a private message |
| 09:46.35 | gump | http://paste.debian.net/160898/ |
| 09:46.43 | gump | holy shit thats cool |
| 09:46.44 | babilen | ta |
| 09:47.06 | babilen | :) |
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| 09:47.45 | babilen | gump: So you aren't tracking wheezy, but jessie or sid? |
| 09:48.26 | gump | jessie |
| 09:49.21 | babilen | gump: Okay, if I were you I would just pull in the nvidia-kernel-dkms package from experimental. The version in there supports your device and it'll be a better experience than using the (normally quite broken) .run installer from NVIDIA |
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| 09:49.47 | babilen | Once jessie has been released it won't be too long before that version makes it into jessie-backports and you can switch to that |
| 09:50.01 | gump | so edit /etc/apt/sources.list and add what? sorry, i'm still learning |
| 09:50.18 | babilen | gump: It might, however, be that your system is in a quite broken state due to your experiments. |
| 09:50.22 | gump | add experimental? install that package, then remove experimental |
| 09:50.35 | gump | yeah. unfortunately i may need to reinstall for the 3rd time |
| 09:50.40 | gump | reinstall debian i mean |
| 09:51.28 | babilen | gump: No, leave experimental in there. You would, essentially, add experimental to your sources.list, run "apt update" and then "aptitude -r -t experimental install nvidia-kernel-dkms" |
| 09:52.13 | babilen | gump: We also don't support jessie/sid in this channel (which is why I assumed that you are using wheezy) but in #debian-next on irc.oftc.net. You might want to join that network and channel in lieu of this one. |
| 09:52.27 | DarsVaeda | is gksudo not installed anymore by default in jessie? |
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| 09:52.45 | babilen | gump: I'm sorry that you have such a stressful experience, but your hardware is rather new and you require very recent drivers. |
| 09:53.03 | gump | well, thanks for the help |
| 09:53.31 | babilen | gump: NOOO! |
| 09:53.41 | babilen | The version in experimental also doesn't support your device :( |
| 09:53.49 | babilen | ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/343.36/README/README.txt |
| 09:53.51 | gump | damnit you got my hopes up lol |
| 09:53.54 | babilen | *sigh* |
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| 09:54.30 | gump | i guess i could roll back to wheezy and just install the packages i need from jessie |
| 09:54.34 | gump | i feel like that's a terrible idea though |
| 09:54.36 | mjt | I sometimes wonder why people use ftp still... ;) |
| 09:54.43 | DarsVaeda | ah wait I have to ask the other channel, sorry |
| 09:54.48 | babilen | Sorry for that. You will, therefore, have to get the .run running. I am not sure why it isn't working, but we (i.e. #debian) don't really support that (#nvidia does). I would strongly recommend to switch to a dkms package eventually, but you will naturally wait for it to become available |
| 09:55.03 | gump | ty |
| 09:55.03 | babilen | gump: No, don't ever mix stable with anything but backports |
| 09:55.10 | gump | join #nvidia |
| 09:55.39 | gump | the long and short is i'm trying to get steam running in debian and it requires newer versions than weezy repos have |
| 09:55.44 | babilen | gump: fwiw, it does indeed look as if you have the headers installed. I am not entirely sure why the .run is failing, but more debugging is needed to figure out why it is failing |
| 09:55.46 | gump | don't remember which packages off the top of my head |
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| 09:55.58 | mjt | gump: the "rollback" to previous debian release isnt really supported |
| 09:56.16 | gump | yes it is. i can nuke my filesystem from orbit |
| 09:56.23 | mjt | heh |
| 09:56.32 | mjt | that's not a rollback, it's a reinstall |
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| 09:57.26 | babilen | gump: What I can tell you though is that you need *at least* version 346.47 of the driver (which is the absolute newest) -- ftp://download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86/346.47/README/README.txt |
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| 09:58.12 | gump | babilen, that is what i'm trying to install |
| 09:59.09 | gump | i think it's probably some line in the .run file that someone forgot to change vOv or maybe directories changed with systemd or something idontknowwhati'mdoing.jpg |
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| 10:00.21 | babilen | gump: Yeah, just wanted to point out that fact. New hardware such as yours are a bit of a pain, but I would *strongly* recommend to track jessie at this point (in particular if you are interested in steam). You won't get around installing the nvidia driver using their .run (chat in #nvidia about that and ask here for Debian help (e.g. which package do I need for ... ?)) for now, but you should switch to the nvidia-kernel-dkms package once 346.47 ... |
| 10:00.28 | babilen | ... or newer becomes available in Debian |
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| 10:02.52 | mjt | is switching from nvidia .run to dkms package actually "supported" ? |
| 10:03.18 | mjt | I mean, will the dkms package clean up after nvidia install procedure properly? |
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| 10:05.07 | babilen | mjt: Well, it isn't supported per-se, but the nvidia-kernel-dkms package pulls in nvidia-fuckup-cleanup which contains scripts to repair some of the damage their installed does |
| 10:05.23 | mjt | heh. that's a good name ;) |
| 10:05.30 | babilen | judd: i nvidia-installer-cleanup --release sid |
| 10:05.31 | judd | Package nvidia-installer-cleanup (contrib/misc, optional) in sid/i386: cleanup after driver installation with the nvidia-installer. Version: 20141201+1; Size: 19.7k; Installed: 36k |
| 10:06.01 | babilen | mjt: The actual package name is slightly less, well, honest ;) |
| 10:06.07 | mjt | ;) |
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| 10:21.11 | otyugh | Hey. I'm wondering : is there an official fork for a no-systemd debian yet ? |
| 10:21.22 | mjt | official? |
| 10:21.42 | otyugh | well, not two guys doing this |
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| 10:27.39 | ntz | hello |
| 10:27.52 | ntz | is this "normal" and expectable: http://susepaste.org/view/raw/40484801 ?? |
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| 10:28.13 | sochapter | Sure it is |
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| 10:29.41 | ntz | all this deps of nmap ? o.O |
| 10:29.59 | ntz | x11-common |
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| 10:30.09 | ntz | ^^ dependency of nmap ?? |
| 10:30.30 | ntz | onts-droid fonts-liberation ### ?? dependency of nmap ?> |
| 10:30.38 | sochapter | Hmm, actually, let's take back a step. |
| 10:30.41 | mjt | that's recommends |
| 10:30.45 | ntz | sochapter: ^^ that's pretty abnormal |
| 10:30.47 | babilen | judd: why nmap fonts-liberation |
| 10:31.05 | judd | Packages nmap and fonts-liberation in wheezy/i386 are linked by 1 chains: nmap ⶠliblinear1 ⷠliblinear-tools ⷠlibsvm-tools ⶠgnuplot ⶠgnuplot-nox ⷠfonts-liberation |
| 10:31.52 | ntz | okay, so how do I install nmap without those recommended packages ?? |
| 10:31.56 | sochapter | How about if you try apt-get install nmap --no-install-recommends? |
| 10:31.57 | ntz | reads apt-get manual |
| 10:32.07 | babilen | That's a recommendation and by no means necessary |
| 10:32.23 | themill | (libraries should not recommend packages...) |
| 10:32.28 | ntz | gotcha |
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| 10:33.09 | ntz | :: libblas3 libblas3gf libgfortran3 liblinear1 liblua5.1-0 libquadmath0 nmap |
| 10:33.39 | ntz | ^^ I think that apt-get solver wanting to install all those packages is pretty asocial to debian policies ... |
| 10:33.52 | zeeble | It is liblinear that causes all the stuff. It was in the debian buglists earlier. |
| 10:33.54 | ntz | not these, these are required |
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| 10:34.02 | themill | ntz: don't overblow one bug |
| 10:34.05 | ntz | I meant those from http://susepaste.org/view/raw/40484801 |
| 10:34.32 | zeeble | liblinear depends on gnuplot, which gets X11. Anyway, use the --no-install-recommends flag |
| 10:34.54 | ntz | themill: I'm not even not sure what exactly to report: ``Packagers adds theirs packages to recommends section inanely '' ?? |
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| 10:35.19 | ntz | s/not//2 |
| 10:35.20 | zeeble | This has been reported in multiple bugs. More than 1-2 years already. |
| 10:35.36 | themill | and has been fixed. |
| 10:35.55 | zeeble | Yep, atleast I didn't get it when I installed on a clean jessie install |
| 10:36.03 | ntz | themill: ain't it on the deps level ? it must be specified in those packages that they are recommended to other packages |
| 10:36.20 | themill | ntz: that doesn't mean it's not a bug and isn't fixed |
| 10:36.40 | darxmurf | hum I'm back with my ldap question. Is there a generic query I can launch on the ldap to check connectivity before to run a script ? |
| 10:36.43 | ntz | :) ok .. thanks .. I didn't have real problem .. thanks again for input |
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| 11:05.31 | andril | hello |
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| 11:11.59 | sokoli | is there any way to sort file names in the way that '.' is before alphanumeric char? |
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| 11:15.12 | Iridos | sokoli, LC_COLLATE envitonment variable determines sort order... |
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| 11:15.52 | Iridos | sokoli, I think setting LC_COLLATE=C does it |
| 11:16.08 | Iridos | I have that on my system, but I completely forgot about it |
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| 11:17.17 | SynrGy | in what locale(s) is(are) '.' *not* before alphanumeric? yeah, C is the default and that's what i'd expect in other locales too ... |
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| 11:17.39 | SynrGy | you folks must have some strange locales configured |
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| 11:19.29 | sokoli | Iridos: thanks! |
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| 11:29.38 | porton | I have a "stable" system with some packages from "unstable". How to downgrade it back to stable? |
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| 11:31.10 | ob-sed | Hi |
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| 11:31.17 | ob-sed | is there a way to check if your system is Debian Jessie ready ? |
| 11:31.27 | ob-sed | I would like to run SteamOS on it and do Steam Gaming |
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| 11:32.42 | ob-sed | It has a Realtek ALC1150 onboard sound chip with optical spdif output, GeForce GTX 780 Ti, i7 4790k haswell refresh gpu, samsung 1TB 850 Pro SSD, logitech MX518 mouse, Logitech "gamepanel" keyboard G510s, 16GB RAM |
| 11:33.11 | ob-sed | erm, rather actually i meant to say install Jessie -release on it and the steam client |
| 11:34.26 | zeeble | You could download a LiveCD and boot from it and see if things are working. If yes, your machine should be "jessie ready" |
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| 11:38.00 | ob-sed | zeeble: ah thanks, i will do that. i checked i see the nvidia driver does support the gpu too which is good, will check the sound chip now |
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| 11:38.35 | ob-sed | last time i checked last year the ALC1150 might be abit tricky |
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| 11:39.42 | ob-sed | hmm it uses the intel Z97 chipset too |
| 11:39.50 | ob-sed | might be abit iffy *fingers crossed* |
| 11:40.11 | zeeble | I am sure you can get sound working on it. might have to look at some alsa drivers which will make it wok |
| 11:40.13 | zeeble | work* |
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| 11:41.54 | ob-sed | true i think it was fairly recent ALSA drivers & kernel that added support for Z97/ALC1150 |
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| 11:49.33 | thorben | hello |
| 11:49.51 | thorben | Im in here ~<.>~ |
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| 11:50.14 | acampbel1 | Yes you are. |
| 11:50.29 | thorben | nice |
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| 11:51.47 | thorben | there is a windows in my header, cant get it out, wanne change my system, but, oh gosh, I cannot, should I take a therapy? wanne go debian |
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| 11:52.13 | thorben | "in my head" -er |
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| 11:52.49 | acampbel1 | Just format your brain as Ext and you should be fine, thorben. |
| 11:53.08 | thorben | :O) |
| 11:53.29 | thorben | wanne escape from alkawindowstraz |
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| 12:16.21 | floogy | Hello, we got a network share on a debian 6.09 server. There was an unexpected shutdown of that server. Formerly it was possible to mount a smb share by using the IP address, but now it's only possible to mount a share by giving the server name. Also there were some errors logged. |
| 12:16.41 | floogy | https://bpaste.net/show/5e440d973230 |
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| 12:18.35 | acampbel1 | floogy: looks like that box has had it's IP changed from .7 to .4? |
| 12:18.58 | acampbel1 | excuse me, .9 to .4 |
| 12:19.24 | acampbel1 | also, it could be that the host name is used twice |
| 12:19.53 | acampbel1 | strong advice: drop NetBIOS entirely and use DNS exclusively. |
| 12:20.44 | floogy | acampbel1, Do you mean in smb.conf? |
| 12:21.23 | acampbel1 | unless you need legacy support for netbios (not likely these days, unless you have some old exchange server) |
| 12:21.55 | acampbel1 | disable nmbd |
| 12:22.08 | darxmurf | folks I need your help :-/ |
| 12:22.10 | acampbel1 | and use dns for IP resolution |
| 12:22.17 | acampbel1 | darxmurf: with what? |
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| 12:22.45 | darxmurf | I have a debian server where I put backup of around 20 machines. Those backups are done with rsnapshot and hardlinks |
| 12:22.50 | darxmurf | this is quite ok and fast |
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| 12:23.14 | darxmurf | then once a month I have to rsync the whole backup folder from the linux machine to a *ç%"*% NetApp system |
| 12:23.21 | floogy | .4 is the PDC win2003, but we also want to offer a share from that debian box (.9) |
| 12:23.21 | darxmurf | over a NFS mount |
| 12:23.34 | darxmurf | I ran this task 6 days ago... |
| 12:23.41 | darxmurf | and it's still running... hell |
| 12:23.52 | darxmurf | is there a way to copy this faster or what ? |
| 12:24.23 | darxmurf | I know rsync over NFS is crap but in this case NetApp dosen't offer much options :-/ |
| 12:24.27 | acampbel1 | darxmurf: how much data is there, and what type of files are they? |
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| 12:24.52 | darxmurf | around 1.3Tb |
| 12:25.02 | acampbel1 | yep, there's your problem, hehe |
| 12:25.07 | darxmurf | :-/ |
| 12:25.23 | acampbel1 | Don't suppose you could use scp/ssh or something? |
| 12:25.30 | acampbel1 | or even ftp |
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| 12:25.38 | darxmurf | hmmm maybe FTP |
| 12:25.44 | darxmurf | NetApp is a joke in fact :-/ |
| 12:25.51 | acampbel1 | assuming you have gigabit ethernet between those two boxes |
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| 12:25.55 | darxmurf | yep |
| 12:25.58 | acampbel1 | running at max theoretical speed... |
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| 12:26.18 | acampbel1 | it would still take like, 15 days |
| 12:26.25 | darxmurf | huh |
| 12:26.29 | acampbel1 | wait, derp |
| 12:26.31 | acampbel1 | 1.5 days |
| 12:26.34 | darxmurf | yes |
| 12:26.37 | darxmurf | I prefer :D |
| 12:26.37 | acampbel1 | no wait |
| 12:26.39 | acampbel1 | cancel all of this |
| 12:26.51 | darxmurf | but still... NetApp sucks |
| 12:26.51 | darxmurf | :D |
| 12:26.53 | acampbel1 | i should stop using anything that isn't spreadsheets |
| 12:27.55 | acampbel1 | okay, back with actual proper numbers |
| 12:27.59 | darxmurf | :D |
| 12:28.05 | acampbel1 | at theoretically max speed, 22 hours on gigabit |
| 12:28.09 | darxmurf | voilà |
| 12:28.11 | acampbel1 | But what kind of files are they? archives? |
| 12:28.16 | acampbel1 | or raw data? |
| 12:28.24 | darxmurf | <PROTECTED> |
| 12:28.31 | acampbel1 | uncompressed? |
| 12:28.33 | darxmurf | yep |
| 12:28.40 | acampbel1 | considered tarring it? |
| 12:28.51 | darxmurf | and user data folders with quite a lot of small text files |
| 12:28.53 | acampbel1 | i don't know what kind of data is on the boxes, but if it's mostly uncompressed (text files and the like) |
| 12:29.10 | acampbel1 | you'd probably save a bunch of time if you tar.gz it |
| 12:29.14 | acampbel1 | rsync would do that for you |
| 12:29.16 | rabbitear_sdf | creditcard data |
| 12:30.50 | darxmurf | I have to do this sync every months |
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| 12:31.37 | rabbitear_sdf | ddos attack them with their own creditcard data |
| 12:31.39 | acampbel1 | assuming the server you are running the actual sync from (deb box, I'm guessing) has a semi-modern processor |
| 12:31.49 | acampbel1 | and there's a whole bunch of text |
| 12:32.05 | acampbel1 | you'd probably save a whole lot of time if you zipped it up before you rsync it across or whatever |
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| 12:32.53 | darxmurf | tar.gz -> transfer -> uncompress ? |
| 12:33.09 | acampbel1 | Yeah, something like that. |
| 12:33.14 | acampbel1 | Do you need to uncompress it on the endpoint? |
| 12:33.21 | acampbel1 | I was assuming you were just 'archiving' backups |
| 12:33.27 | darxmurf | yep |
| 12:33.37 | darxmurf | in fact it's a copy of rsnapshot folders |
| 12:34.00 | darxmurf | I don't even know if it's usefull in fact... :D |
| 12:34.22 | abrotman | SPF: centerim still exist? finch? |
| 12:34.30 | darxmurf | backups of backups... |
| 12:34.39 | acampbel1 | I gotta go run some errands. Hope that I've helped a little, darxmurf |
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| 12:34.50 | darxmurf | yep thanks mate |
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| 12:35.12 | darxmurf | and still... NetApp sucks... |
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| 12:38.30 | Oscilax | is there a way to display a package's description only? |
| 12:40.23 | themill | grep-available -n -sDescription -P $foo |
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| 12:45.29 | Oscilax | when i change "available" into "status" it works fine |
| 12:45.41 | Oscilax | thanks! |
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| 13:00.04 | bolt | can someone suggest a way of getting the current resolution of my three screens without using xrandr? i've got 3 different resolution screens running in zaphod mode in xorg, joined together to one desktop by xinerama while avoiding the dead zones differing resolutions on xinerama would normally give. this works brilliantly, but disables the xrandr extension, so a few of my scripts that try to get the current resolution fail |
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| 13:00.37 | bolt | xdpyinfo sees only the giant xinerama screen :/ |
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| 13:06.46 | aphoriser | Where should "export LANGUAGE=en_US.UTF-8" be for system level so that I dont have to do it every time / for every user? |
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| 13:08.21 | Brigo | aphoriser, .bashrc in your home dir |
| 13:08.25 | jelly | aphoriser: /etc/default/locale, but I'm not sure which apps use "LANGUAGE" |
| 13:08.42 | jelly | Brigo: "don't have to do it... for every user" |
| 13:09.11 | jelly | aphoriser: and only put NAME=value there, without "export " |
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| 13:09.35 | jelly | !tell aphoriser about locale |
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| 13:09.55 | Brigo | then /etc/profile? |
| 13:10.10 | jelly | sorry, wrong factoid |
| 13:10.11 | jelly | !tell aphoriser about locales |
| 13:10.33 | jelly | !tell Brigo about locales |
| 13:10.56 | Brigo | i am already reading it, thanks :) |
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| 13:12.49 | MaxLanar | Hello guys, |
| 13:13.16 | MaxLanar | I can't connect to any wifi network anymore with wicd or manually. My wifi card is working (I can scan and get the results) but wicd or iwconfig/dhclient are unable to "connect" to APs. I'm on debian testing, here is wicd.log and lspci -v : http://paste.debian.net/hidden/525a3863/ |
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| 13:15.08 | MaxLanar | I'm not aware of anything special I did (update or whatever) that makes my wifi not working anymore... |
| 13:15.25 | Brigo | MaxLanar, do you have the firmware installed? |
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| 13:17.37 | darxmurf | MaxLanar: in your wicd, do you have the correct name for your wifi device ? |
| 13:17.39 | MaxLanar | Brigo: I have firmware-iwlwifi installed. (but I should not have scan results if it was a firmware issue right ?) |
| 13:17.58 | Brigo | MaxLanar, not sure about it. |
| 13:18.44 | MaxLanar | darxmurf: yes, wlan0 |
| 13:18.48 | darxmurf | I had this issue once, in WICD the device was configured as wlan0 and after a driver change it changed to wlan1 |
| 13:18.52 | darxmurf | or something like this |
| 13:18.55 | Brigo | MaxLanar, can you paste the output of /var/log/syslog? wicd logs says nothing to me. |
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| 13:19.43 | darxmurf | MaxLanar: stupid question but the WPA pass is correct ? |
| 13:19.46 | MaxLanar | Brigo: the entire output ? |
| 13:19.56 | darxmurf | 2015/03/11 19:12:55 :: wpa_supplicant authentication may have failed. |
| 13:20.13 | Brigo | the related, if you prefer. |
| 13:21.03 | Brigo | yes, and Sending connection attempt result bad_pass (line 20) |
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| 13:21.28 | MaxLanar | darxmurf: It's a smart question :), it could happen! But yes, I checked it several times and even tried without encryption but get the same. |
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| 13:22.14 | Brigo | i hope syslog could give us more clues. |
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| 13:22.30 | darxmurf | Can you connect using iwconfig and wpa-supplicant ? |
| 13:23.14 | darxmurf | did you change your wireless card or is it the same one that before ? |
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| 13:23.37 | Brigo | MaxLanar, wheezy or jessie? |
| 13:23.39 | themill | MaxLanar: is this persistent across reboots? |
| 13:23.57 | dansimon | Hi guys! I am playing around with exim and postfix, and I have completely broken internal mail.. how do I reset the mail system to the original..? |
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| 13:24.52 | Brigo | sorry i have to go. |
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| 13:26.13 | ChrisH | dansimon: apt-get remove --purge might help |
| 13:26.14 | darxmurf | dansimon: apt-get autoremove --purge postfix exim && apt-get install exim ? |
| 13:26.27 | MaxLanar | Brigo: syslog : http://paste.debian.net/hidden/87975f76/ |
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| 13:27.00 | darxmurf | MaxLanar: Mar 12 14:24:31 ultraportable kernel: [52508.729051] ieee80211 phy0: Hardware restart was requested |
| 13:27.08 | darxmurf | your wifi card is unstable :-/ |
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| 13:27.43 | darxmurf | try the drivers from intel website |
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| 13:28.09 | darxmurf | I installed them for a 802.11AC card few days ago |
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| 13:31.47 | dansimon | yeah.. tried that.. no siguar.. im very puzzled.. |
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| 13:33.38 | DammitJim | what do you guys recommend for doing backups to a non usb storage device? I'm looking for a LAN option |
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| 13:34.09 | Eleth | rsync |
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| 13:35.18 | DammitJim | can I do rsync to a windows machine? |
| 13:35.32 | Eleth | possibly using cygwin |
| 13:35.35 | ChrisH | DammitJim: ask Windows Admins |
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| 13:35.40 | MaxLanar | darxmurf: [connection interruption because i have to be connected througt an instable bluetooth link] |
| 13:35.46 | drj_____ | http://www.rsync.net/resources/howto/windows_rsync.html |
| 13:35.48 | DandyPandy | DammitJim: rsnapshot is an option. Use Samba to mount a shared drive from the windows machine |
| 13:35.54 | spiteful | DammitJim: i set that up 2 hours ago, did it with cygwin |
| 13:35.59 | spiteful | works fine |
| 13:36.02 | DammitJim | thanks spiteful |
| 13:36.11 | DammitJim | so, I need to install cygwin on my windows machine? |
| 13:36.13 | spiteful | make sure to install rsync and openssh server |
| 13:36.15 | spiteful | yes |
| 13:36.37 | DammitJim | on the windows machine? cygwin, rsync, and openssh? |
| 13:36.42 | spiteful | cygwin only |
| 13:36.53 | spiteful | then choose rsync and openssh server in the package selection |
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| 13:37.04 | DammitJim | spiteful, package selection where? |
| 13:37.05 | DandyPandy | DammitJim: if you want backups over intervals, you'll need something like rsnapshot, or you can write your own script. Otherwise, rsync is just copying the data over. |
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| 13:37.08 | spiteful | in ther installer |
| 13:37.09 | DammitJim | when installing cygwin? |
| 13:37.12 | spiteful | yes |
| 13:37.17 | DammitJim | oh ok |
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| 13:38.07 | DandyPandy | And it's a lot of trouble to install cygwin, ssh, and rsync on the windows machine when mounting it via Samba requires significantly less work. |
| 13:38.28 | DammitJim | I don't know why, but when I have mounted an ntfs (cifs) partition and then done rsync, the mounted drive all of a sudden can't be read/written to anymore |
| 13:38.29 | spiteful | hm, guys. I have a problem with a deb package. I installed shinken via pip and then uninstalled it and want to install it from apt-get |
| 13:38.52 | DammitJim | DandyPandy, are you using any special parameters? like -avz or something? |
| 13:38.54 | spiteful | but it doesent install correctly, it doesent add the files nessecary (/etc/shinken, /etc/init.d/shinken etc.) |
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| 13:40.03 | spiteful | DandyPandy, you have to configure OpenVPN if its on a remote location, so it's even more work imo. |
| 13:40.24 | Iridos | dpkg, pip |
| 13:40.25 | dpkg | The "pip" utility (in the python-pip package) permits the installation of python modules. Use of this as root for system-wide installation can break packaged python modules and applications and is not recommended. Use in a virtualenv or for a single user in ~/.local/ can have similar effects but at least the breakage is limited to one user. |
| 13:40.39 | DandyPandy | spiteful: he said LAN |
| 13:40.44 | spiteful | oh ok, missed that |
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| 13:41.36 | DandyPandy | DammitJim: you're going to lose your permissions and ownership by copying to a windows machine, so -r would suffice |
| 13:41.45 | DammitJim | ok, thanks |
| 13:42.05 | DandyPandy | -v is verbose. I forget what -z does |
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| 13:42.41 | DammitJim | and do I need to take anything in consideration for large files? |
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| 13:42.57 | DammitJim | compress during transfer |
| 13:43.01 | Brigo | MaxLanar, whezzy or jessie? |
| 13:43.10 | DandyPandy | rsync handles large files very well. And you can do --partial to resume incomplete transfers. |
| 13:43.19 | DandyPandy | I wouldn't worry about compression over the LAN |
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| 13:43.38 | DandyPandy | It's just going to be extra CPU usage for little gain, especially if the files are already compressed. |
| 13:44.32 | DandyPandy | If you're talking music and movies, then those are already compressed assuming they are mp3, ogg, mkv w/ x264, etc |
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| 13:45.38 | MaxLanar | Brigo: jessie |
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| 13:46.09 | DammitJim | vms |
| 13:46.23 | Brigo | MaxLanar, as darxmurf told you the problem is the driver itself. |
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| 13:47.02 | Brigo | MaxLanar, you could try a newer kernel, but there is no newer kernel in jessie just now. |
| 13:47.26 | Brigo | So you can try to download the driver from intel or getting a new kernel from sid |
| 13:47.41 | DandyPandy | DammitJim: still, I wouldn't worry about compression. rsync can use quite a bit of cpu, so unless your transfer large ascii logs over a slow connection, compression is a waste |
| 13:47.50 | DandyPandy | s/your/you're/ |
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| 13:52.24 | Eduard_Munteanu | Argh, I can't boot the Versatile kernel in qemu-system-arm, no support for root devices seems to be built into the kernel. |
| 13:52.35 | Eduard_Munteanu | Is there any way to get myself an initramfs? |
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| 13:53.25 | BigTuna- | anyone know if itâs possible to easily wipe a chromebox (hp) and install debian? |
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| 13:55.24 | lroe | Is Dia still being developed? |
| 13:55.29 | lroe | It seems to have stalled |
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| 13:56.40 | petn-randall | lroe: It probably makes more sense to check upstream for that answer. |
| 13:57.04 | lroe | my follow up is, does debian have any other good network diagramming tool |
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| 13:57.58 | petn-randall | BigTuna-: I assume it works, unless it has any "crazy" hardware. |
| 13:59.00 | BigTuna- | i think it may have a weird type of bios on it.. not sure if thereâs anyway to override the chrome os |
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| 13:59.08 | petn-randall | BigTuna-: This review (found via google) says it works fine on Debian jessie: https://www.erat.org/chromebox.html |
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| 13:59.45 | DammitJim | DandyPandy, do you think this would be better if I had another debian machine to dump my stuff into? |
| 13:59.57 | DammitJim | I might be able to create a VM just for this purpose with enough storage |
| 14:00.06 | BigTuna- | I think I may be better off to just by an old refurbished pc |
| 14:00.25 | BigTuna- | basically Iâm just using it to collect data from a barcode scanner and insert into a database on a server |
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| 14:00.58 | BigTuna- | in the past Iâve used refurbished PCs with debian booting right into a java app that watches for input |
| 14:01.01 | MaxLanar | Irigo: it don't seems Intel's website ( http://www.intel.com/support/wireless/wlan/sb/CS-034398.htm ) propose a driver, just a the iwlwifi firmware. |
| 14:01.08 | MaxLanar | Brigo: * |
| 14:01.27 | BigTuna- | was hoping to get something a little more compact |
| 14:01.57 | BigTuna- | rasberry PIs work but they arenât very reliable |
| 14:02.15 | Eduard_Munteanu | Blah, this is seriously annoying, how am I going to generate an initramfs without booting first. |
| 14:02.24 | DandyPandy | DammitJim: I wouldn't put backups into a VM. If you aren't worried about maintaining permissions and ownership, then doing a straight rsync will work. Even if you do want to maintain ownership and permissions, you could tar the VM images up first and then rsync the tarball over. |
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| 14:04.55 | darxmurf | DammitJim: for the windows and rsync, sometimes it's a bit messy with file times, check the --modify-window option, it can help :) |
| 14:05.24 | MaxLanar | Brigo: I have plenty of those in /lib/firmware ( http://pastebin.com/D6929uaQ ). Is it normal ? |
| 14:05.27 | darxmurf | and as DandyPandy said, UNIX<->Windows can break permissions and all |
| 14:05.38 | darxmurf | MaxLanar: yep |
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| 14:05.50 | Brigo | MaxLanar, yes, it is. |
| 14:05.50 | darxmurf | for different kernels I think |
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| 14:06.55 | MaxLanar | And I already have the iwlwifi-7260-9.ucode that i can DL following intel website links... :/ |
| 14:07.06 | DammitJim | darxmurf, thanks for the heads up... I think it's alright with respect to the time for NTFS |
| 14:07.21 | DammitJim | I just realized that VM backups are going to be large no matter what and they will take time |
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| 14:09.38 | MaxLanar | Brigo: darxmurf: You think the only solutions now are get a kernel from sid or use another wifi card ? |
| 14:09.58 | Brigo | MaxLanar, or update the driver. |
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| 14:11.43 | MaxLanar | I have trouble to differentiate the driver from the firmware. How can I tell what the former is on my box ? |
| 14:11.52 | porton | Installation of which package creates /var/lib/mysql dir? |
| 14:12.19 | Brigo | MaxLanar, https://wireless.wiki.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/iwlwifi#download |
| 14:12.59 | porton | ... I've removed this dir and can't re-create it |
| 14:13.13 | darxmurf | MaxLanar: it should be ok with the driver |
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| 14:13.22 | Brigo | MaxLanar, the driver is in /lib/modules/... |
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| 14:13.44 | darxmurf | on my side I just installed/replaced all the files I found on intel website for my card and it works quite well |
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| 14:14.12 | DandyPandy | porton: what do you mean you can't re-create it? Did you delete it and mysql is still running? |
| 14:14.42 | porton | DandyPandy: mysqld isn't running. It crashed and I attempt to create an empty database again |
| 14:15.03 | krule | create database <name>; |
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| 14:15.04 | MaxLanar | Brigo: darxmurf: Ok, thx for your help. I must go now i'll figure it out next time... |
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| 14:15.42 | darxmurf | I have to tar.gz lots of folders but I want to exclude files names 1r, 1i, 2r1, 2rr, 21r, 2ii, is it correct with --exclude="1r" --exclude="1i" --exclude="2ri" ... ? |
| 14:15.54 | DandyPandy | porton: you could uninstall mysql-server* and reinstall mysql-server, but you should be able to create the directory and change ownership to mysql:mysql |
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| 14:16.10 | krule | yes DandyPandy |
| 14:16.21 | porton | DandyPandy: I tried to reinstall it, but the directory is not created automatically |
| 14:16.31 | krule | darxmurf* |
| 14:17.06 | DandyPandy | porton: have you tried 'sudo mkdir /var/lib/mysql' and then 'sudo chown mysql:mysql /var/lib/mysql' and then restarted mysql? |
| 14:17.43 | darxmurf | krule: ? |
| 14:17.55 | darxmurf | --exclude="*1r" |
| 14:17.56 | darxmurf | ? |
| 14:17.57 | porton | DandyPandy: I tried it, but mysqld says after this: [ERROR] Fatal error: Can't open and lock privilege tables: Table 'mysql.host' doesn't exist |
| 14:18.41 | krule | *1r* |
| 14:18.55 | DandyPandy | porton: You need to go google for 'mysql debian deleted /var/lib/mysql' |
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| 14:19.34 | DandyPandy | you may be able to do dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server to get it to bootstrap the service again |
| 14:19.58 | bddy | Hi. I'm trying to create a debian package. There are two packages A and B. B depends on A. Then I want to create packages myA and myB. In myB I say: Depends: myA. Then in myA i say: Conflicts: A Replaces: A Breaks: A And in myB I say: Conflicts: B Replaces B Breaks B. Now I say: sudo apt-get install myB and get the following message: myB : depends on A by it is not going to be installed. Why myB depends on |
| 14:19.58 | bddy | A? In debian control it says that it depends on myA |
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| 14:20.12 | porton | DandyPandy: `dpkg-reconfigure mysql-server-core-5.5` does not help |
| 14:20.43 | DandyPandy | porton: you just need to find out how to get mysql to bootstrap the mysql database |
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| 14:22.15 | darxmurf | krule: --exclude="*/1r" --exclude="*/1i" |
| 14:22.24 | darxmurf | it's okay like this |
| 14:22.25 | darxmurf | thanks :) |
| 14:22.37 | krule | np |
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| 14:34.32 | darxmurf | there is not way to avoid to keep full path in tar ? |
| 14:34.43 | darxmurf | without cd before to create the archive ? |
| 14:34.51 | darxmurf | I tried -C but without success |
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| 14:38.14 | bolt | darxmurf: why is cd a problem? |
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| 14:44.17 | darxmurf | well in fact it's not a problem :) |
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| 14:44.46 | darxmurf | script launched \o/ |
| 14:44.50 | darxmurf | time for a beer :) |
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| 14:47.48 | darxmurf | hmmm I forgot --hard-dereference |
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| 14:55.48 | serard | Hello |
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| 14:56.20 | serard | Is there a way to cache https apt repositories with apt-cacher or other ? |
| 14:56.37 | acampbell[away] | You mean, keep a local copy of apt repositories? |
| 14:56.42 | acampbell[away] | Or keep locally all the packages you download? |
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| 15:01.44 | serard | acampbel1, second option :) so they can be served within my vlan |
| 15:02.12 | darxmurf | see you tomorrow folks |
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| 15:02.22 | darxmurf | and thanks all |
| 15:02.33 | themill | There's generally not much advantage to using https for apt given that everything is verified by GPG for you. |
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| 15:05.30 | serard | perhaps; nevertheless I need to cache those https apt repositories :) These are not mine. |
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| 15:05.42 | themill | ack |
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| 15:11.14 | Aleksa | hello! |
| 15:11.32 | Aleksa | May I ask how to pronounce âSiductionâ? |
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| 15:11.47 | Aleksa | I know it's Debian based distro. |
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| 15:12.30 | pushpop | is there a command similar to nslookup on windows? |
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| 15:18.26 | petn-randall | Aleksa: It's a word play on "seduction", so it's pronounced the same. |
| 15:18.45 | shay_shay | Aleksa: suduction only with the first syllable replaced with sid |
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| 15:19.22 | shay_shay | you must say it in a french accent however |
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| 15:22.26 | Aleksa | Sidakšn |
| 15:22.40 | jelly | Aleksa: lol, are you from ex-yu |
| 15:22.51 | Aleksa | Yes, I am. |
| 15:23.01 | Aleksa | How do you know? |
| 15:23.07 | jelly | dat pronunciation |
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| 15:23.57 | Aleksa | How could you know the way I pronounce it based only on written text? |
| 15:24.17 | jelly | Aleksa: jer sam mnogo mudar :-) |
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| 15:25.00 | Aleksa | ok, dželi ;) |
| 15:25.13 | jelly | indeed |
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| 15:27.09 | Katharsis | hi |
| 15:27.15 | DammitJim | man, rsync is awesome... I can see it synchronizing multiple files at the same time |
| 15:27.20 | DammitJim | my hard drive is getting hammered! |
| 15:27.26 | DammitJim | any way to slow that down? LOL |
| 15:27.30 | Katharsis | do you have a minute to help me with dual monitor configuration on Debian? |
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| 15:28.41 | Oscilax | DammitJim: why slow it down? |
| 15:28.55 | ChrisH | Katharsis: plug the second monitor to your system and be happy. On kde start systemsettings if the second monitori does not show up |
| 15:29.25 | DammitJim | I can't use my other machine LOL |
| 15:29.28 | Katharsis | ChrisH: i'm using openbox |
| 15:29.29 | DammitJim | while the sync is going |
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| 15:29.56 | Oscilax | DammitJim: there is --bwlimit= |
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| 15:33.53 | ChrisH | Katharsis: then improve your question please, also add what happens and how the 2nd monitor is connected |
| 15:36.33 | cnodell | Katharsis: You can probably use xrandr from the command line. Use "xrandr" with no options to get a list of available screens. Then something like "xrandr --output DP1 --left-of DP2" do set up the second screen. You might have to play arrounda bit to get the perfect command w/options. Once you have it, just put it somewhere where it is run when you start X. A google search for zrandr and the xrandr man page |
| 15:36.34 | cnodell | are goodsources of information. |
| 15:36.46 | SPF | abrotman: yes ICQ still exists |
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| 15:37.06 | abrotman | SPF: no .. centerim, or finch .. Are you trying ot use this only for ICQ? |
| 15:37.43 | DammitJim | ICQ? OMG |
| 15:37.55 | SPF | I never used centerim or finch |
| 15:38.14 | abrotman | SPF: you were asking for CLI IM clients .. those are two of them that I knew about at one point |
| 15:38.22 | SPF | bitlbee has ICQ support |
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| 15:39.00 | SPF | I still remember my ICQ account (from 16 years ago or so) |
| 15:39.15 | SPF | unfortunately the email address associated with it no longer exists :( |
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| 15:49.10 | petn-randall | DammitJim: You can also use ionice & nice to put the rsync process to a lower priority. |
| 15:49.38 | DammitJim | goodness.... I really don't like windows |
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| 15:49.48 | DammitJim | I thought I was saving time by copying stuff to USB, then to windows machine |
| 15:49.50 | johnfg | hi folks |
| 15:50.00 | DammitJim | but when running rsync, now it is synchronizing EVERYTHING still |
| 15:50.03 | johnfg | Is there a workaround for this error from logrotate? |
| 15:50.08 | johnfg | I haven't run logrotate in a while and got this: error: stat of /var/log/messages failed: Value too large for defined data type |
| 15:50.37 | jelly | johnfg: which debian release is this? |
| 15:50.44 | petn-randall | johnfg: Is that the complete error message? |
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| 15:51.39 | yei | hola |
| 15:52.00 | johnfg | wheezy, and yes, complete error message. |
| 15:53.20 | johnfg | I guess I can just do a manual gzip of messages and then run logrotate, eh? |
| 15:54.47 | jelly | johnfg: hm. show "ls -ld /var/log/messages" and "dpkg --print-architecture" and "apt-cache policy logrotate" |
| 15:55.34 | jelly | !paste |
| 15:55.35 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 15:56.07 | johnfg | jelly: K, I'm gonna let gzip do it's work first and see if that works. |
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| 15:56.50 | jelly | you should first manually rename and reload your syslog before gzipping manually |
| 15:58.00 | jelly | else you may lose some lines while syslog daemon is still writing to old messages that gzip "deleted", but syslog kept it open already |
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| 15:58.22 | bubblegun | hi guys |
| 15:58.48 | bubblegun | can someone advice a good source.list to add servers :) i just fresh installed my debi |
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| 15:59.01 | bubblegun | or just use pastebin it |
| 15:59.06 | jelly | !tell bubblegun about wheezy sources.list |
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| 16:02.30 | bubblegun | Thank you jelly |
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| 16:03.46 | johnfg | jelly: I've got it taken care of. Thanks for the help. I'm gonna get logrotate running by cron so I don't have this problem again. |
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| 16:04.20 | johnfg | Is there a good example cron script for logrotate and logrotate.conf that you'd recommend? |
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| 16:05.07 | jelly | johnfg: by default it runs from cron. /etc/cron.daily/logrotate |
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| 16:06.30 | johnfg | jelly: Tks! |
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| 16:07.59 | jelly | johnfg: that's why I asked you some of that stuff. The apparent largefile error, and logrotate not running, are signs you have interesting non-default settings somewhere |
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| 16:11.40 | johnfg | yup, you're right. |
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| 16:13.40 | nettlejam | Is there a standard behavior for when apt-get is used to update a package for a running service? For example, if I run apt-get --yes install tomcat7, and an older version of tomcat7 is running already? |
| 16:14.06 | bubblegun | killall -9 tomcat7 |
| 16:14.14 | nettlejam | Does the service get restarted? or just left running the older version until I manaully restart? |
| 16:14.39 | nettlejam | bubblegun - ok, so apt will kill the process? |
| 16:14.48 | bubblegun | you must kill it |
| 16:14.50 | bubblegun | no? |
| 16:14.50 | jelly | nettlejam: in general, it's stopped when the prerm script of old package is run, and started again when postinst of new package is run |
| 16:14.53 | jelly | bubblegun: no. |
| 16:15.04 | bubblegun | ohh k |
| 16:15.04 | nettlejam | jelly - ok, so it basically depends on the package then? |
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| 16:15.36 | jelly | nettlejam: no, that's the general rule and probably documented somewhere |
| 16:15.52 | jelly | just can't be bothered to look it up in debian-policy |
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| 16:16.02 | nettlejam | jelly - thanks. Heh. OK. |
| 16:16.33 | shay_shay | thats a good policy |
| 16:17.19 | jelly | except if the installation fails, or if you're upgrading lots of stuff and first everything gets stopped and you have minutes of downtime before everything is started again |
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| 16:17.54 | jelly | but in general yes, it's a very good default policy |
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| 16:29.46 | average_man | hi |
| 16:31.06 | jelly | qsoag: if you're not a bot let me know. |
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| 16:32.23 | nettlejam | so after some poking around, I guess I can look at the .prerm and .postinst scripts in /var/lib/dpkg/info/ to see how the package will handle its upgrade w.r.t. the running daemon. |
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| 16:48.25 | leszek | hi |
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| 16:48.37 | dizzylnx | hi |
| 16:48.40 | dizzylnx | I need to copy a damaged data for possible recovery. Q: can I just use 'cat /dev/baddisk > /dev/backupdisk' instead of going through dd as the forensic recovery guides recommend? Or via pv as pv's manpage suggests ' pv -EE /dev/sda > disk-image.img' where in stead of disk-image.img would be the /dev/backupdisk ? |
| 16:49.37 | leszek | I am trying to build glib 2.36 for some reasons (need a new python-gi package and it depends on it). Is there a way to skip all the tests the glib package does after the compile ? Also some of the tests seem to fail. Though even logging everything I can't seem to find which one fails |
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| 16:50.32 | Oscilax | dizzylnx: i suggest you look at ddrescue |
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| 16:50.58 | dizzylnx | Oscilax: used that too seems as slow as dd, cat seems faster |
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| 16:51.44 | Oscilax | interesting. i wonder why |
| 16:52.27 | dizzylnx | the pv way seems the simplest , fastest and straightforward |
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| 16:55.15 | cryingfreeman | Hi! Have a problem with Kerberos+LDAP+NFSv4 and userid mapping. Seems as though uid and gid gets set, the created files have the owner nobody:nogroup from idmapd.conf: http://paste.debian.net/160956/ Any ideas? Domain is set in idmapd.conf as well as kerberos realm. |
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| 16:56.55 | Oscilax | what, pv is pipe viewer, right? |
| 16:57.02 | dizzylnx | just wanna make sure before comitting |
| 16:57.32 | Oscilax | ah, that uses cat then i suppose |
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| 16:59.04 | dizzylnx | pv shows statisticks of data transfer speed, eta etc |
| 16:59.16 | dizzylnx | can be used by itself instead of cat |
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| 16:59.52 | steve8track | Anyone know a good easy way to set up a Nvidia GTX 860M with the proprietary drivers? I'm using Linux Mint Debian Edition, which is based on debian stable and testing, but only has drivers up to 319. I've tried installing direct from Nvidia, but it's a multi-card system, so for some reason it doesn't see the Nvidia card and fails to load with an error about "no device detected" and "no screens present". I tried bumblebee in the re |
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| 17:01.06 | Oscilax | even fancier than pipemeter which i knew before |
| 17:01.11 | dizzylnx | pv is very handy for monitoring progress |
| 17:01.21 | Oscilax | yes |
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| 17:01.45 | dizzylnx | and i've never heard of pipemeter :) |
| 17:02.23 | Oscilax | :) |
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| 17:04.40 | Oscilax | what i am thinking about right now is - when it skipped 20 of 100 blocks of a file the result is unusable. that means you need to run fsck on the backup, right? |
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| 17:42.14 | Lis | hello everyone. i have a question about the debian testing automount. if i plugin my first usb hdd it mounts to /media if i plugin the second usb hdd it mounts to /media/username/name how can i force mounting to always /media/username ? |
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| 17:43.22 | markit | hi, I've installed 4 packages with aptitude install, then removed with aptitude purge, but packages that were installed as dependencies are not removed. Any option to have it? |
| 17:43.30 | markit | would love to have the system at "pre install" state |
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| 17:44.19 | vfoley- | grep question: I run a program through a bunch of test files (i.e. for f in *; do ./foo $f 2> /dev/stdout; done) and for some of the files, I get a segfault. I apparently cannot grep for "Segmentation". Anyone have tips on what I'm doing wrong? |
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| 17:47.30 | Lis | i use pcmanfm |
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| 17:54.14 | leszek | why can't I rebuild glib locally ? I tried a clean wheezy chroot and tests fail despite the fact all dependencies are installed. |
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| 18:00.23 | jelly | leszek: if you got sources from wheezy deb-src and they fail to build in a clean chroot, that's a serious bug |
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| 18:00.50 | jelly | I'm assuming you meant "all BUILD-dependencies are installed" |
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| 18:03.47 | leszek | jelly: exactly |
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| 18:04.32 | leszek | jelly: I am not sure if its a serious bug. As I am building locally with dpkg-buildpackage. I read other reports that it is working on buildd (though I guess thats a server auto build thingy) |
| 18:04.35 | steve8track | I just installed bumblebee from source according to the directions on github, and re-installed the nvidia driver. I've added bumblebeed to my startup. lspci -v gives me "Unknown header type 7f" and "optirun glxgears" gives me "No bridge found". I would just use the nvidia driver all the time, but running nvidia-xconf causes mdm to start with a blue screen error saying no devices were detected. |
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| 18:06.37 | jelly | leszek: what does "apt-cache showsrc libglib2.0-0" say? |
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| 18:08.07 | leszek | jelly: this: https://paste.kde.org/pjkdl5mg3 |
| 18:08.10 | nemo | Can any FOSS project sign up for alioth? |
| 18:08.55 | nemo | Looking for options after the google code announcement |
| 18:09.04 | nettlejam | So can you guys tell me if my understanding of this sounds generally correct: Most .deb packages that install something that will run as a service will stop then start the service as part of an upgrade, via the .postrm and .postinst scripts... but this depends on the package. Also, most .deb packages that install/upgrade a library will not do anything about processes that use the library, although in som |
| 18:09.10 | nettlejam | e cases they will notify an interactive user about processes that might need to be restarted, and in some very rare cases (eg libssl1.0.0 for Heartbleed) will actually restart some services. |
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| 18:09.34 | jelly | leszek: right, that seems to be a version from wheezy |
| 18:09.34 | nettlejam | Does that seem about right? |
| 18:09.44 | jelly | s/a version/the version/ |
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| 18:10.22 | jelly | nettlejam: prerm and postinst. Right. |
| 18:10.35 | nettlejam | jelly - ah, yes - sorry |
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| 18:11.37 | baverhey | upgraded to debian jessie and the boot process stops --> last message 50.140697] systemd-hostnamed[3516]: Failed to register name: Permission denied |
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| 18:12.11 | nemo | I found https://wiki.debian.org/Alioth which I guess answers my question |
| 18:12.13 | jelly | nettlejam: in general, an initial installation of such a package will also start the service if possible. Packages for a minor number of services that absolutely require manual config don't do that. |
| 18:12.14 | nemo | waves |
| 18:12.17 | baverhey | what is the correct content of /etc/hosts? and /etc/hostname i dident change it on upgrade (not for the past 5 years :-s |
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| 18:13.03 | baverhey | is the hostname saved in the kernel or initrd or vmlinuz ? |
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| 18:14.34 | nettlejam | jelly - that makes sense. I'm still a bit confused about debconf and the 'db_input critical libssl1.0.0/restart-services || true' stuff in, say libssl's .postinst script, but I think I get the general idea |
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| 18:15.11 | jelly | nettlejam: debconf is the thing that asks you questions at install/upgrade time |
| 18:15.23 | jelly | (well, some of those questions) |
| 18:15.28 | nettlejam | what about if you are running non-interactively? |
| 18:16.01 | jelly | you get default values wherever possible |
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| 18:17.01 | nettlejam | ah, ok. So the 'or' is the default value if the question was not answered? |
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| 18:17.50 | jelly | nettlejam: it's probably there to guard against any sort of non-zero status because the script has "set -e" |
| 18:18.40 | nettlejam | OK, I see |
| 18:22.36 | leszek | why isn't chromium updated in wheezy ? It is vulnerable to poodle ssl v3 attack since half a year already. And TLS 1.2 isn't even supported. Shouldn't the debian security team update it ? Or isn't that a security risk ? |
| 18:22.46 | jhutchins | baverhey: Hostname is stored permanently in /etc/hostname, which can be edited to make a permanent change. It's also in RAM, so you can set it temporarily. |
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| 18:23.45 | jhutchins | baverhey: /etc/hosts is a local DNS resolver table. Good practice is to enter your IP address and FQDN, followed by just the hostname. |
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| 18:24.31 | jhutchins | baverhey: (There should also be an entry for 127.0.0.1 localhost) |
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| 18:29.03 | jelly | and the ::1 localhost |
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| 18:30.42 | jelly | leszek: probably because it's hard to fix it without breaking other stuff |
| 18:30.55 | baverhey | jhutchins: Ok thx i ll add the ip tha tline is not there i now have 127.0.01 localhost |
| 18:31.26 | baverhey | jhutchins: Ok thx i ll add the ip tha tline is not there i now have 127.0.1.1 mier mier |
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| 18:32.05 | krule | anybody here good w/ nginx? |
| 18:32.22 | adc | !ask |
| 18:32.23 | dpkg | If you have a question, just ask! For example: "I have a problem with ___; I'm running Debian version ___. When I try to do ___ I get the following output ___. I expected it to do ___." Don't ask if you can ask, if anyone uses it, or pick one person to ask. We're all volunteers; make it easy for us to help you. If you don't get an answer try a few hours later or on debian-user@lists.debian.org. See <smart questions><errors>. |
| 18:32.28 | jelly | leszek: debian knows about these issues. https://security-tracker.debian.org/chromium-browser |
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| 18:34.41 | leszek | jelly: so my only chance would be backporting it on my own now :P I guess this does then need a newer glib and then we are at the beginning of all my problems again :P |
| 18:35.08 | jelly | leszek: I just said "fuckit" and use google-chrome-stable :-| |
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| 18:37.52 | leszek | jelly: hmm... nope. I don't want google spyware on my machine |
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| 18:38.57 | jelly | yeah, because you and debian maintainers are able to inspect the whole source for spyware. Right. |
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| 18:40.12 | srg | krule: What's your question? |
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| 18:41.05 | jelly | leszek: I use chrome with the incremental search thingy disabled and an extension to work around search results tracking |
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| 18:41.59 | leszek | hmm... ok now thats strange glib builds fine on 64bit. It gets stranger by the minute :P |
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| 18:42.22 | leszek | but I guess chromium needs the i386 version aswell. Not for compile but for runtime |
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| 18:45.08 | ch077179 | I am having trouble getting two monitors to work side by side. I do not have an xorg.conf, yet I suspect if I configured X correctly I should be able to have an extended/virtual screen. How can I obtain an xorg.conf and make it effective? |
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| 18:45.31 | NoImNotNineVolt | nvidia or ati? |
| 18:45.34 | ch077179 | ati |
| 18:45.42 | NoImNotNineVolt | lol |
| 18:45.50 | Zharf | -.- |
| 18:45.50 | NoImNotNineVolt | i tried that too. |
| 18:45.57 | NoImNotNineVolt | i ended up just installing ubuntu instead. |
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| 18:46.11 | ch077179 | ubuntu? |
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| 18:46.27 | ch077179 | what can ubuntu what debian can't? |
| 18:46.31 | Zharf | nothing |
| 18:46.34 | Zharf | it does most things worse |
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| 18:47.06 | NoImNotNineVolt | i agree. i hate ubuntu with a burning passion. |
| 18:47.38 | Zharf | ch077179, did you try xrandr |
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| 18:47.49 | ch077179 | ubuntu is the only distro that can get dual desktop running from an ati card? |
| 18:47.53 | ch077179 | yes |
| 18:48.05 | ch077179 | xrandr complains about max screen size. |
| 18:48.09 | NoImNotNineVolt | but i dare you to try getting an ati firepro card to support dual monitors under debian. |
| 18:48.29 | NoImNotNineVolt | on your first day at a new job, nonetheless. |
| 18:48.31 | ch077179 | I have tried answer #2 here http://askubuntu.com/questions/303072/xrandr-screen-cannot-be-larger-than-1680x1680-desired-size-3360x1050 |
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| 18:48.42 | ch077179 | sudo X --configure ended up crashing |
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| 18:49.41 | ch077179 | so that poster claims to have gotten it running configuring X. |
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| 18:49.55 | NoImNotNineVolt | i'll be praying for you. |
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| 18:50.10 | ch077179 | well, what are my options? |
| 18:50.19 | Zharf | ch077179, what command did you try? |
| 18:50.22 | jelly | ch077179: can you show the output of "xrandr" in your X without an xorg.cong in place? |
| 18:50.25 | Zharf | what does just 'xrandr' output? |
| 18:50.31 | ch077179 | I installed fglrx yesterday with jelly's help |
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| 18:50.38 | jelly | cong! |
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| 18:51.04 | NoImNotNineVolt | fglrx totally did not work for me :| |
| 18:51.06 | ch077179 | $ xrandr --output CRT1 --auto --left-of LVDS --primary --auto |
| 18:51.08 | ch077179 | xrandr: screen cannot be larger than 1920x1920 (desired size 3520x1080) |
| 18:51.11 | jelly | !paste |
| 18:51.11 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
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| 18:51.32 | NoImNotNineVolt | and then dkms ate it when i tried switching to a newer kernerl from backports |
| 18:51.37 | jelly | ch077179: complete output |
| 18:51.43 | ch077179 | jelly: that's all |
| 18:51.48 | NoImNotNineVolt | so at that point i just threw in the towel. |
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| 18:51.53 | Zharf | ch077179, from just 'xrandr' |
| 18:51.56 | ch077179 | ok |
| 18:51.57 | jelly | ch077179: of the "xrandr" command, not "xrandr --output CRT1 --auto --left-of LVDS --primary --auto" |
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| 18:52.38 | ch077179 | http://pastebin.com/Amar3i4y |
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| 18:52.50 | baverhey | jessie does not boot /etc/hostname does not take, boot process still stuck at systemd-hostnamed[3517]: Failed to register name: Permission denied |
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| 18:53.27 | jelly | baverhey: hmm. Ask in #debian-next over on irc.oftc.net, maybe someone in the testing/unstable channel will have a clue |
| 18:53.30 | ch077179 | oh god.. that reminds me of my fedora days. after pretty muche every update I had to dive into video driver specifics. that's what fglrx basically translates to on debian? |
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| 18:53.49 | Zharf | fgrlx is ati's crappy drivers |
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| 18:54.13 | Zharf | (they don't have non-crappy ones) |
| 18:54.18 | ch077179 | jelly: just in case, how would I disable / remove fglrx? |
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| 18:54.27 | jelly | ch077179: that maximum is interesting and will need some manual touchup. looks like fglrx doesn't support randr properly yet |
| 18:54.35 | ch077179 | so what are you guys strategies? never buy ati? |
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| 18:54.54 | Zharf | last amd/ati I bought was in 2005 :) |
| 18:54.56 | jelly | ch077179: if I remember correctly you did not have multiple outputs _at all_ without it |
| 18:55.02 | ch077179 | jelly: that's what I was thinking. there must be a way to allow larger screens, no? |
| 18:55.11 | leszek | bb |
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| 18:55.17 | jelly | ch077179: yes, I have to look it up |
| 18:55.28 | Zharf | ch077179, what card is it specifically |
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| 18:55.35 | jelly | nvidia drivers used to behave like that, and they got better since |
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| 18:55.57 | ch077179 | Zharf: 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Thames [Radeon 7500M/7600M Series] [1002:6841] |
| 18:56.00 | jelly | ch077179: could you try installing jessie? |
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| 18:56.16 | ch077179 | what is jessie? |
| 18:56.19 | ch077179 | testing? |
| 18:56.24 | jelly | current debian testing yes |
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| 18:56.35 | ch077179 | major downsides? |
| 18:56.49 | ch077179 | tentatively yes... |
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| 18:57.27 | jelly | ch077179: it probably won't work any worse that this! |
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| 18:57.34 | ch077179 | :D |
| 18:57.37 | ch077179 | awesome.. |
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| 18:57.44 | baverhey_ | jessie does not boot /etc/hostname does not take, boot process still stuck at systemd-hostnamed[3517]: Failed to register name: Permission denied |
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| 18:58.14 | ch077179 | I think I'd have to resize partitions... |
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| 18:58.53 | mtn | baverhey_: you should try #debian-next on irc.oftc.net |
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| 18:59.14 | baverhey_ | mnt: i thougt i was on debian-next |
| 18:59.20 | baverhey_ | sorry |
| 18:59.28 | baverhey_ | diferent client :-s |
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| 18:59.57 | vali | hi guys |
| 19:00.05 | baverhey_ | mnt: i cant chanel is invite only |
| 19:00.17 | mtn | baverhey_: you need to change servers |
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| 19:00.24 | jelly | baverhey_: irc.oftc.net is a different irc server. |
| 19:00.35 | RoyK | (or network) |
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| 19:02.52 | jelly | ch077179: try putting something like this http://paste.debian.net/160985/ into eg. /etc/X11/xorg.conf.d/larger-virtual.conf |
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| 19:04.53 | ch077179 | jelly: I did. How do I make it effective? |
| 19:04.57 | jelly | ch077179: restart X |
| 19:05.21 | ch077179 | wrt installing jessie. Can I resize extended partitions holding a crypt-luks partition? |
| 19:05.26 | jelly | (log off and back on, or restart gdm3/kdm/xdm/whateverdm service) |
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| 19:07.52 | jelly | ch077179: if there's free space yes, but it's tricky |
| 19:08.21 | Tomasu | is there a way to get around packages failing to configure due to their services not starting up? I'm trying to do an 'aptitude upgrade" and its updating nut and some other stuff, and currently, this box isn't connected to the ups, so the nut service fails, which causes the package update to fail. I really wish it wouldn't stop package updates. |
| 19:08.27 | ch077179 | there's no free space, it uses up the whole disk except for /boot |
| 19:08.37 | jelly | !tell Tomasu about policy-rc.d |
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| 19:09.03 | jelly | ch077179: oh, you want to shrink it? |
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| 19:09.45 | ch077179 | I'll try the xorg.conf approach first. Installing jessie is a bigger task. If I do I'd want to have the same packages installed, i.e. I'd like to save a list of packages to feed apt-get after completing the installation |
| 19:09.51 | ch077179 | jelly: yes |
| 19:09.56 | jelly | never tried shrinking a luks device, but shrinking ext4 and lvm and partitions can be done offline |
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| 19:11.15 | jelly | if you're using luks as lvm physical device there might be no need to shrink it |
| 19:11.25 | jelly | lvm physical volume* |
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| 19:12.14 | ch077179 | How would I determine what it currently is? |
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| 19:12.39 | jelly | ch077179: output of lsblk would be useful to show all the layers |
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| 19:14.25 | ch077179 | http://paste.debian.net/160988/ |
| 19:14.51 | johntrails | can someone please help me out with this method? |
| 19:14.52 | johntrails | http://pastie.org/10021593 |
| 19:15.04 | jelly | ch077179: that's nice, you actually have lvm on top of luks on top of partition on top of extended partition |
| 19:15.06 | johntrails | I am trying to update the records from 1 model, based off the values of a different model |
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| 19:16.05 | ch077179 | is that a good thing? |
| 19:16.37 | jelly | ch077179: you could just shrink the /home filesystem and its hvar-home lvm LV, and install a different linux into the free space and make it use the same luks device and same LVM volume group |
| 19:16.44 | Tomasu | jelly: looks interesting, should policy-rc.d already exist? |
| 19:16.56 | jhutchins | johntrails: Could you summarize the issue so we know whether to click through? |
| 19:17.19 | ch077179 | ok.. I'll try to restart x now and see what happens. If it fails I'll come back to ask about how to best approach a side by side install of jessie |
| 19:17.22 | jelly | Tomasu: no, you have to make it yourself (I believe that factoid pointed to an example) |
| 19:17.31 | ch077179 | thanks for the help |
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| 19:18.23 | Tomasu | jelly: ah, see I was expecting a place to put the script in /etc like say a /etc/policy-rc.d dir... instead of having to add new scripts to /usr/sbin. |
| 19:18.37 | jelly | Tomasu: ITYM /usr/local/sbin |
| 19:18.54 | jelly | don't put unpackaged stuff in /usr/sbin or /usr/bin |
| 19:19.03 | Tomasu | the spec says /usr/sbin |
| 19:19.17 | jelly | they're being silly! |
| 19:19.31 | Yukkii | I'm baaack |
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| 19:20.36 | jelly | Tomasu: they may also be right. Trust the spec not me. |
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| 19:21.11 | johntrails | jhutchins, App I am working on an app which has 2 databases (1sql, 1 oracle) the 2 models I am working on have similar data structure, both use ORDER_NUMBER as a PK, on SQL the field is ORHORDNUM, on oracle it's ORDER_NUMBER.. I want to update on the sql server side 2 columns (orhrtenum and orhsubrte) with the data from oracle (route_id, sequence_number) when the order numbers are the same |
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| 19:22.21 | jelly | Tomasu: /usr/local/sbin/policy-rc.d seems to work for me as long as /usr/local/sbin is in root's PATH |
| 19:22.44 | jelly | or it used to work last time I put it there, in 2012 |
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| 19:24.10 | ch077179 | ok, no more x after logging out. nor after reboot. I rename that .conf file and restart x? |
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| 19:26.10 | jelly | ch077179: yes, just save a copy of /var/log/Xorg.0.log someplace first so I can take a look |
| 19:26.21 | ch077179 | ok |
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| 19:27.30 | Yukkii | http://pastebin.com/Gs1gZ1S9 Would someone be able to dumb this down for me? Not easy to understand rn (sick) |
| 19:27.48 | Tomasu | jelly: ah, well I tried usr/local but it didn't seem to work, so just put it in /usr |
| 19:28.28 | jhutchins | johntrails: I'll make a really wild guess and say you're using puppet, or maybe cheff, right? |
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| 19:29.57 | f31n | hi, i've got a problem with i guess mysqld - i tried to install musicbrainz picard database - not the tool to grep i can get that one via apt-get but the whole database - but when i'm |
| 19:29.57 | f31n | running this script: https://github.com/ChurruKa/mbzdb it fails at the stage of creating the indexes - actually i can reproduce the problem by performing the failing query manually with the same result: http://pastebin.com/bcas17YV |
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| 19:31.33 | ch077179 | jelly: http://paste.debian.net/160993/ |
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| 19:33.24 | Stijn_ | <PROTECTED> |
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| 19:34.14 | johntrails | jhutchins, neither |
| 19:34.19 | johntrails | i'm new to rails, 2 months in |
| 19:35.12 | jelly | ch077179: bah, apparently some boilerplate is needed there. http://paste.debian.net/160994/ |
| 19:36.17 | ch077179 | brb |
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| 19:37.37 | ch077179 | awesome jelly! |
| 19:37.44 | jhutchins | johntrails: Ok, no knowledge of ruby/rails, sorry. There's probably an irc channel for it. |
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| 19:38.49 | ch077179 | there's some garbled output in the lower left corner of the secondary screen, but I'm finally rid of the cloned screens |
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| 19:39.11 | jelly | ch077179: if it works now: in general, you don't want to put secondary screens "--left-of" your main one, as the geometry origin will change |
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| 19:40.11 | ch077179 | ok, so xrandr main --right-of secondary ? |
| 19:40.35 | jelly | is saner with most window managers and desktop environments yes |
| 19:40.47 | jelly | er no |
| 19:41.07 | jelly | xrandr --output secondary --right-of primary --auto |
| 19:41.22 | ch077179 | mhok.. |
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| 19:41.31 | jelly | (or just use gnome/kde control panel or arandr) |
| 19:41.38 | ch077179 | so.. can you tell me your secret? |
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| 19:41.49 | jelly | secret? |
| 19:41.51 | ch077179 | How did you figure out what to put into the second .conf file? |
| 19:42.01 | Walex2 | I tend to prefer to put logically the primary "above" the secondary even if that is not their physical relationship for a couple of good reasons... |
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| 19:42.08 | ch077179 | and will x read all config files in xorg.conf.d/ ? |
| 19:42.26 | jelly | ch077179: copied from my old nvidia xorg.conf cca 2011 |
| 19:42.55 | jelly | ch077179: man xorg.conf says it reads all files that match *.conf |
| 19:42.58 | gurke_ | hey guys.. what file do i need to change to make a router for different domains to different folders? |
| 19:45.01 | ch077179 | ok... I just lack the experience, but I had a good hunch it was something rather simple... |
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| 19:45.08 | ch077179 | thanks a lot |
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| 19:45.57 | ch077179 | I just had no idea where to start. New drivers? Other distro / release? often I'm confused what approach to take first |
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| 19:47.00 | Bremsstrahlung | Is there an estimate on the next point release? |
| 19:47.02 | jelly | ch077179: newish hardware like your Radeon HD 7000M chip often fails with free drivers, esp. the old ones in debian stable |
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| 19:47.53 | jelly | Bremsstrahlung: dunno, does anything fail for you with 7.8 installer? |
| 19:48.01 | ch077179 | yeah.. that I experienced earlier too. different distros. |
| 19:48.13 | Bremsstrahlung | jelly -- hm, I wonder if that was the issue with an older computer I have with a Radeon graphics card that failed to render Xfce desktop elements. |
| 19:48.18 | Bremsstrahlung | jelly: No, just curious. |
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| 19:49.16 | jelly | Bremsstrahlung: point releases don't get newer driver versions. Sometimes they get patches, esp. the kernel component, but don't hold your breath about Xorg issues with specific hardware |
| 19:49.36 | Bremsstrahlung | jelly: No, the two questions were separate, re: GPU drivers and point releases. |
| 19:49.43 | gurke_ | hey guys.. what file do i need to change to make a router for different domains to different folders? |
| 19:49.46 | jelly | ah |
| 19:49.47 | Bremsstrahlung | I wasn't expecting newer drivers in 7.9 or w/e. |
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| 19:51.20 | jelly | noone expects them! Their major weapon is surprise. And fear. |
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| 20:08.32 | andril | hello |
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| 20:13.06 | Yukkii | http://pastebin.com/Gs1gZ1S9 Would someone be able to dumb this down for me? Not easy to understand rn (sick) |
| 20:13.15 | knosys | hello, is there a way to see a history of file creation in some directory? |
| 20:13.32 | knosys | like files created and deleted recently inside a directory? |
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| 20:17.43 | andril | i just installed Jessie on my Dell Latitude-e6530 and can not activate my wi-fi - recently installed firmware-iwlwifi but it says "firmware missing" |
| 20:17.58 | andril | RC 1 build |
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| 20:18.52 | RDash | Yukkii, what is your intention? You want to install steam? |
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| 20:19.31 | Yukkii | RDash: No, I installed "Musique" but it requires GLIBC >= 2.14, which Wheezy doesn't have |
| 20:19.59 | RDash | Yukkii, how about backports? |
| 20:20.01 | NoImNotNineVolt | is 2.14 available in backports? |
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| 20:21.11 | andril | any help? |
| 20:21.17 | RDash | oh Yukkii you're vulnerable for ghost attack \o/ |
| 20:21.21 | RDash | andril, be patient ;) |
| 20:21.33 | andril | copy :) |
| 20:21.33 | Yukkii | RDash: Uh, .-. |
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| 20:24.21 | somiaj | NoImNotNineVolt: no libc6 is a core libary that you don't want to change or backport. There is a 'hack' of sorts to get steam working in wheezy (by using a local version of libc6) which people have gotten to work and I think you can find instructions via google. |
| 20:24.45 | RDash | somiaj, it is for Yukkii |
| 20:24.53 | RDash | somiaj, and not for steam either but for Musique |
| 20:24.55 | Yukkii | RDash: Just fixed the ghost exploit :d |
| 20:25.15 | RDash | Yukkii, simply: apt-get update && apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade |
| 20:25.19 | RDash | and reboot |
| 20:25.23 | Yukkii | RDash: Yeah, just did that |
| 20:25.28 | RDash | Yukkii, alright |
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| 20:25.32 | RDash | does musique work now too? |
| 20:25.33 | somiaj | RDash: thanks, and I bet the 'hack' that works for steam will work for anything, just have a sandboxed newer version of libc6 that the binary can use. |
| 20:25.37 | Yukkii | I'll have to check |
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| 20:25.50 | RDash | somiaj, I personally run jessie atm |
| 20:26.01 | RDash | somiaj, for me it is plain: apt-get install steam |
| 20:26.12 | RDash | and 32 bit library for my video card :P |
| 20:26.13 | Yukkii | RDash: I use my Debian machine for C, but I also want a way to listen to music on it |
| 20:26.34 | Yukkii | A better way* |
| 20:26.41 | Yukkii | Don't like using VLC |
| 20:26.43 | RDash | Yukkii, I do not have or own MP3 files so streaming is a solution for me ;) |
| 20:26.46 | somiaj | RDash: that would be my suggestion to, I was just stateing you can get it to work on wheezy if you are adventrous. Jessie should be released sometime and maek this moot. (: |
| 20:26.57 | Yukkii | ;p |
| 20:27.06 | RDash | somiaj, yea I love jessie so far it is lovely |
| 20:27.08 | knosys | guys is it normal that all files inside /var/log/ are created by 'adm' ? |
| 20:27.23 | knosys | sorry, inside /var/log/apache2 |
| 20:27.26 | somiaj | Yukkii: plenty of applications that play music. I personally use mplayer, but there are even simplar programs like mpg321 |
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| 20:27.31 | RDash | somiaj, only down side was: Upgrading from Wheezy broke a rootkit in my mbr |
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| 20:27.35 | RDash | which was kinda funny :D |
| 20:27.47 | Stijn_ | RDash: rootkit in your mbr |
| 20:27.49 | Stijn_ | what |
| 20:28.12 | Yukkii | "musique: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version 'GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by musique)" |
| 20:28.16 | RDash | Stijn_, yea :D |
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| 20:28.28 | RDash | Stijn_, the /boot partition* not MBR* my bad |
| 20:28.31 | Stijn_ | a typical mbr is 512 bytes |
| 20:28.33 | Stijn_ | ah |
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| 20:28.57 | Stijn_ | RDash: how did it get there? |
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| 20:29.35 | somiaj | Yukkii: you don't want to install a newer version of libc6 on wheezy. But there are various options you can use. One is run a jessie vm and run that software there, another is run it in a chroot, or you can even have a sandboxed version of libc6 to link just that program to. |
| 20:29.50 | RDash | Stijn_, downloaded some thing from an ubuntu repo that I wanted to test it out. Eventually it contained a rootkit... from now on I wont download from random repo's |
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| 20:30.24 | somiaj | RDash: should be in the habbit of compliling stuff from source if it isn't in debian. Packages are always bad because of dependencies. |
| 20:30.24 | Stijn_ | RDash: roflmao |
| 20:30.27 | RDash | Stijn_, was not an official one |
| 20:30.39 | Yukkii | somiaj: I'm trying to sandboxed version, but I don't know how to build it (says I have to build it in a separate directory) and the .deb would just try to install it completely. |
| 20:30.54 | RDash | Stijn_, and I always wondered why I had 5 GBit peaks in my network some times... : / |
| 20:30.57 | Stijn_ | RDash: did you save the binary? might be fun to look into |
| 20:31.05 | Stijn_ | lol |
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| 20:31.20 | somiaj | Yukkii: correct, you will want to isolate it in its own directory. You could dpkg -x file.deb /path/to/directory/ and extract the deb to a directory of your choice (double check my syntax just to be safe) |
| 20:31.33 | RDash | Stijn_, nah reinstalled my system when it suddenly started to fail after finding it out |
| 20:32.00 | RDash | Stijn_, I do got a collection of 800+ binaries between 150 to 250kb ? |
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| 20:32.10 | RDash | they keep sending it on skype and ask me to open it... |
| 20:32.14 | Stijn_ | RDash: lol |
| 20:32.15 | RDash | I simply submit it to virustotal |
| 20:32.16 | RDash | :D |
| 20:32.25 | RDash | which is illegal in their 'cryptor' scene :) |
| 20:32.36 | RDash | and yet I run linux too lazy to install wine :D |
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| 20:33.08 | RDash | Funny part no one has an idea what I am doing in that group chat and their mostly complaining their files are not 'fud' for a day or some thing |
| 20:33.16 | RDash | probably some skid group stuff |
| 20:33.24 | Yukkii | somiaj: So then after installing a local version I'd make a script file changing the temp path for that program? |
| 20:33.34 | RDash | got invited out of the blue without knowing who they were :D |
| 20:33.44 | RDash | although I have access to their botnets ^^ |
| 20:34.35 | RDash | Stijn_, lets take this to #debian-offtopic to clean up the chan :) |
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| 20:35.48 | Stijn_ | sure |
| 20:35.50 | somiaj | Yukkii: you can use the ld linker to link to that libary directly but I forget the context. |
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| 20:36.21 | Yukkii | somiaj: Alright, I guess it's time to Google |
| 20:36.24 | Yukkii | Thanks for the help |
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| 20:37.05 | andril | 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01) |
| 20:37.37 | Yukkii | andril: Have you tried B43? |
| 20:38.11 | andril | will try it now - kinda a noob here |
| 20:39.05 | andril | how do i find B43, Synaptic? |
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| 20:40.09 | LtL | andril: cmd line = easier, apt-cache search b43 |
| 20:40.15 | Yukkii | andril: https://wiki.debian.org/bcm43xx |
| 20:40.29 | ompaul | andril: read all the good stuff that dpkg sent you |
| 20:41.06 | ompaul | andril: do the wifi page first and bcm43xx next that is all that debian ever needs |
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| 20:42.04 | Yukkii | Once I installed the driver I typed "ifconfig wlan0 up" |
| 20:42.30 | Yukkii | Worked for me |
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| 20:45.54 | andril | cool going to reboot and see what happens brb |
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| 20:46.51 | Yukkii | I didn't have to reboot :p |
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| 20:53.14 | popallamsimbi | hi, i use autofs to mount an directory via sshfs. now i want to have an offline copy of that directory that automatically handles the offline/online changes. can you reccomand a tool for that? |
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| 21:00.42 | YamakasY | !moo |
| 21:00.42 | dpkg | mooooooo! I am cow, hear me moo, I weigh twice as much as you. I'm a cow, eating grass, methane gas comes out my ass. I'm a cow, you could be too; join us all! type apt-get moo; aplay /usr/lib/libreoffice/share/gallery/sounds/cow.wav |
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| 21:49.08 | bigterd | i'm having some issues on a amd64 box. i keep havking kernel panics with out of memory, yet, i have triple the swap space, which isn't being used, then total memory, and it keeps killing non important processes, or locking up, without even using the swap. i tried adjusting swappiness, everything inbetween except 100, any ideas? this is pissing me off, since it runs headless, and i'm getting tired chasing it with a monitor and keyboa |
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| 21:52.20 | LtL | bigterd: run a memory test |
| 21:52.45 | bigterd | i have |
| 21:52.50 | bigterd | 7 days straight |
| 21:53.17 | LtL | bigterd: anything in the logs? |
| 21:55.35 | bigterd | just one last line in syslog |
| 21:55.36 | bigterd | razorblade kernel: [348745.968349] skb_over_panic: text:dc835cbc len:5798 put:5798 head:d9bf7800 data:d9bf7840 tail:0xd9bf8ee6 end:0xd9bf7f40 dev:<NULL> |
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| 21:55.57 | bigterd | anyting important anyways. then all fresh stuff from restart |
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| 21:56.38 | bigterd | i'm just concerened after days and weeks of any steady uptime, zero swap is used. |
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| 21:56.53 | bigterd | i don't think it's a memory issue, i think for some reason it won't bleed over to use swapspace |
| 21:57.52 | bigterd | 2 services, sshd and nfsd. besides the few default that come from standard installation. |
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| 21:59.48 | bigterd | never really troubleshot system problems with logs, but all other logs seem to tell nothing useful. |
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| 22:08.09 | LtL | bigterd: where did that kernel come from? |
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| 22:08.40 | bigterd | default from cd install |
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| 22:08.57 | Andril | hello again |
| 22:09.00 | bigterd | LtL: default from cd install |
| 22:09.07 | LtL | bigterd: how much RAM have you? |
| 22:09.09 | Andril | i got the b43 loaded ad rebooted |
| 22:09.17 | bigterd | Linux razorblade 3.2.0-4-686-pae #1 SMP Debian 3.2.65-1+deb7u2 i686 GNU/Linux |
| 22:09.21 | bigterd | 512 |
| 22:09.52 | LtL | bigterd: 512GB or MB? |
| 22:09.57 | bigterd | fyi, i had the same issues on the i386 kernel |
| 22:09.59 | bigterd | megs |
| 22:10.30 | LtL | bigterd: thats not enough imho |
| 22:10.41 | bigterd | wtf? it uses like 61 after a fresh restart! |
| 22:11.01 | bigterd | id still like to know why swap is never touched too |
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| 22:12.56 | sine0 | does debian have an option to LUKS |
| 22:13.05 | sine0 | like as part of the install setup like ubunut |
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| 22:13.10 | sine0 | ubuntu |
| 22:13.18 | sine0 | ubernut is more apt! |
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| 22:14.41 | srg | sine0: Debian has an option to setup an encrypted LVM when installing, yes. |
| 22:14.59 | srg | I'm not sure if it uses LUKS or something else. I never checked. |
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| 22:15.23 | LtL | bigterd: use swapon /path/file to insure its being used |
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| 22:19.06 | Andril | Jessie install - wireless formware not loaded - Dell Latitude-E6530 |
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| 22:21.45 | Andril | Jessie install - wireless formware not loaded - Dell Latitude-E6530 |
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| 22:22.58 | srg | Andril: What chipset? `lspci` might help. |
| 22:23.22 | srg | Look for "Network controller" |
| 22:23.55 | Andril | srg: 03:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4313 802.11bgn Wireless Network Adapter (rev 01) |
| 22:24.36 | srg | Andril: https://wiki.debian.org/wl |
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| 22:24.48 | srg | (I just googled "broadcom BCM4313 debian" |
| 22:24.50 | srg | ) |
| 22:25.42 | srg | Andril: Essentially, you have to enable the "non-free" section and install the propriatary driver |
| 22:26.06 | srg | You can also try installing the free brcmsmac driver |
| 22:26.53 | srg | That is supplied by the "firmware-brcm80211" package |
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| 22:27.03 | Andril | sorry it freezes too |
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| 22:27.13 | LtL | Andril: https://wiki.debian.org/wl |
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| 22:33.25 | bigterd | hm, swapon -s, the one has a priority as -1 |
| 22:33.27 | bigterd | is that bad? |
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| 22:34.06 | LtL | bigterd: not sure, man swapon |
| 22:34.38 | Andril | brb going to reboot |
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| 22:34.57 | bigterd | hm, only lists 0 to 32767 as a range. haha. interesting |
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| 22:37.31 | bigterd | hm, interesting. that's what it was too. |
| 22:37.45 | bigterd | maybe it was something i was fiddeling with some drunk night. |
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| 22:38.27 | Andril | ok so there is no DEB file for his driver |
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| 22:43.23 | LtL | Andril: here you go, your model, https://wiki.debian.org/brcm80211 |
| 22:43.45 | LtL | Andril: your model is included |
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| 22:44.20 | Catz` | <PROTECTED> |
| 22:44.27 | Andril | LtL: thanks just looking for the DEB i am noob that loves Debian |
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| 22:45.46 | LtL | Andril: you don't need a .deb but you may find it at packages.debian.org. apt-get is by far easier. |
| 22:46.09 | Andril | ok |
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| 22:46.58 | Andril | i just don't know what to get |
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| 22:48.06 | LtL | Andril: for wheezy? |
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| 22:48.33 | Andril | No Jessie, everything worked fne in Wheezy |
| 22:49.27 | Andril | it even worked in Ubuntu Gnome so i decided to update my Debian install on this laptop |
| 22:49.33 | LtL | Andril: you should be in #debian-next on oftc.net then. |
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| 22:53.35 | markit | is it normal that there is a package that is in wheezy, in sid but not in jessie? libapache2-mod-ruby to be specific |
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| 22:54.46 | nkuttler | markit: sure, it happens |
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| 22:55.16 | jhutchins | markit: Yes, that happens, especially for testing. At the time of the freeze the package didn't meet the debian standards - possibly hadn't been updated recently enough. |
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| 22:56.41 | nkuttler | ,v libapache2-mod-ruby |
| 22:56.43 | judd | Package: libapache2-mod-ruby on i386 -- squeeze: 1.2.6-2; wheezy: 1.2.6-2 |
| 22:56.58 | nkuttler | markit: it was removed, see https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/mod-ruby |
| 22:57.13 | nkuttler | and the bug report at the top |
| 22:57.35 | Andril | thanks LtL |
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| 23:00.06 | jhutchins | Apache modules seem to have a tendency to migrate from one to another. |
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| 23:05.49 | RoyK | Pratchett died :( |
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| 23:26.13 | markit | nkuttler: , jhutchins thanks, sigh |
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| 23:32.33 | themill | markit: mod_ruby is dead and doesn't compile against modern apache so it has been removed |
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| 23:32.58 | daedeloth | who wants to help me set up dnsmasq? *yay* |
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| 23:44.38 | armin | is there a recommendable full open source ipsec solution that's compatible with the iphones built in cisco vpn compatible client? |
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| 23:44.52 | armin | daedeloth: dnsmasq is pretty straight forward |
| 23:45.16 | daedeloth | yea I've got it working |
| 23:45.27 | daedeloth | I get an ip address and everything |
| 23:45.32 | daedeloth | I guess I just need to set up the forwarding |
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| 23:46.00 | daedeloth | but I kindof only want to expose a few websites :p |
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| 23:50.07 | daedeloth | I guess I could do a simple apache proxy for those specific sites |
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| 23:52.03 | RoyK | ded_pihto: lr |
| 23:52.13 | RoyK | daedeloth: or varnish? |
| 23:52.31 | daedeloth | varnish? |
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| 23:52.38 | ghormoon | Hi, I'm trying to pass vga to debian VM (xen), though the output of lsipci is bit different and the driver (radeon) doesn't bind, can I make it detect it? Lspci, first hw, second vm http://ghormoon.ghorland.net/vga.lspci |
| 23:52.43 | RoyK | !varnish |
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| 23:53.01 | RoyK | deathspawn: pretty good proxy |
| 23:53.12 | acz32 | i'm backing up all the data in my home directory and erasing/re-installing debian today. any advice? |
| 23:53.13 | daedeloth | hm it's more the filtering that I Need |
| 23:53.39 | RoyK | deathspawn: https://www.varnish-cache.org/ |
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| 23:54.28 | RoyK | acz32: just take care of the stuff in /home |
| 23:55.32 | RoyK | acz32: and next time, make sure /home is on another filesystem |
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