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| 00:08.21 | codebam | okay. so why is apt-get saying it cant find android-tools? |
| 00:08.44 | codebam | or androi-tools-adb or fastboot |
| 00:08.50 | codebam | *android |
| 00:09.00 | mtn | ,v android-tools |
| 00:09.02 | judd | No package named 'android-tools' was found in i386. |
| 00:09.14 | mtn | codebam: cause it ain't there ;) |
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| 00:09.35 | codebam | mtn: okay... how do I get it |
| 00:09.38 | mtn | codebam: this might be useful: http://packages.debian.org |
| 00:09.50 | codebam | mtn: not really. im already there. |
| 00:10.11 | mtn | codebam: then you knew the answer to your first question already? |
| 00:10.15 | codebam | this is i686... and theres no i686 |
| 00:10.52 | mtn | codebam: if what you want is not in the debian repos, then you have to find it on the net and follow the instructions they have to install it |
| 00:11.24 | codebam | mtn: I thought debian has a ton of packages... and theres no android-tools |
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| 00:11.33 | mtn | shrug |
| 00:12.03 | mtn | codebam: maybe it has a different name? |
| 00:12.08 | omar_ | Hi all |
| 00:12.30 | codebam | mtn: thats what I was thinking... idk |
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| 00:12.43 | codebam | ill try the i386 |
| 00:12.50 | mtn | codebam: did you try searching with the word android? either in apt-get or the webpage? |
| 00:13.18 | omar_ | When the Jessie release date? |
| 00:13.30 | codebam | mtn: no. how does apt-get search? |
| 00:13.30 | mtn | omar_: when ready |
| 00:13.41 | omar_ | Ah ok! |
| 00:13.42 | Drugo | omar_, when it will be ready |
| 00:13.42 | mtn | codebam: you just said the command ;) |
| 00:14.05 | codebam | ah okay. and ofc its not in the man page |
| 00:14.13 | codebam | ... -_- |
| 00:14.19 | mtn | codebam: sure it is |
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| 00:14.36 | codebam | invalid option search |
| 00:14.39 | mtn | codebam: oh wait, you need aptitude to do a search. sorry |
| 00:14.39 | Drugo | apt-cache search |
| 00:14.41 | codebam | no. its not |
| 00:14.44 | mtn | or that |
| 00:14.54 | codebam | ah okay thanks |
| 00:15.17 | Devastator | ,v php |
| 00:15.18 | judd | No package named 'php' was found in i386. |
| 00:15.36 | mtn | Devastator: http://packages.debian.org |
| 00:15.38 | indrora | ,v php5 |
| 00:15.39 | judd | Package: php5 on i386 -- squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze17; squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze17; squeeze-security: 5.3.3-7+squeeze19; squeeze: 5.3.3-7+squeeze19; squeeze-security-lts: 5.3.3-7+squeeze25; wheezy: 5.4.36-0+deb7u1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 5.4.39-0+deb7u2; wheezy-security: 5.4.39-0+deb7u2; sid: 5.6.7+dfsg-1; jessie: 5.6.7+dfsg-1 |
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| 00:16.57 | a5i | Hi ! |
| 00:17.07 | a5i | I have git version 1.7.10 |
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| 00:17.33 | a5i | but I need to update it to version 1.9 or higher, any help ? |
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| 00:17.42 | codebam | is never installing this 'stable' distro again. no offense to anyone. I just really dont like it. |
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| 00:18.56 | kodur | i am in the process of a debian netinstall. I am just wondering what the difference is between the kernels listed? there are 2. one just has a version number. |
| 00:19.53 | keltim | codebam, if android tools isn't there it's because most likely it does not meet the Free Software Guidelines, which would not surprise me |
| 00:21.03 | keltim | well hm, it is in sid anyway |
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| 00:21.51 | keltim | codebam, https://packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/android-tools-adb |
| 00:22.15 | mtn | codebam: and, https://packages.debian.org/wheezy-backports/android-tools-fsutils |
| 00:22.54 | keltim | I don't even know if adb was out (or free) for linux when wheezy was release |
| 00:23.17 | mtn | codebam: yes, debian is "terrible" |
| 00:23.27 | mtn | codebam: like I said, you could always search :P |
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| 00:23.59 | keltim | I know I found that as the first google hit on "android tools adb debian backports" |
| 00:24.29 | keltim | sheesh |
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| 00:24.38 | mtn | :) |
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| 00:24.52 | keltim | I mean come one |
| 00:24.55 | keltim | s/one/on |
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| 00:28.25 | Drugo | no xfce 4.12 in jessie :( |
| 00:28.52 | cra1g321 | shocking |
| 00:28.56 | Drugo | i think i'll leave debian after 10 years |
| 00:29.03 | mtn | oh no! |
| 00:29.41 | cafuego | That's definitely more likely to fix the problem than helping the package maintainer. |
| 00:30.55 | codebam | keltim: I dont like installing 3rd party packages. the i386 one worked |
| 00:31.05 | mtn | huh? |
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| 00:33.27 | codebam | OMG. you need adb 1.0.32 or newer to sideload to this device... -_- |
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| 00:33.41 | codebam | is officially never installing debian again |
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| 00:35.59 | mtn | haha |
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| 00:41.26 | codebam | it seems like every package is like 3 or more releases behind. and they arent even stable cause theyre so old |
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| 01:12.23 | codebam | unable to locate package ntpd... -_- |
| 01:12.43 | dvs | ,v ntp |
| 01:12.44 | judd | Package: ntp on i386 -- squeeze: 1:4.2.6.p2+dfsg-1+b1; squeeze-security-lts: 1:4.2.6.p2+dfsg-1+deb6u2; wheezy: 1:4.2.6.p5+dfsg-2+deb7u1; wheezy-proposed-updates: 1:4.2.6.p5+dfsg-2+deb7u3; wheezy-security: 1:4.2.6.p5+dfsg-2+deb7u3; sid: 1:4.2.6.p5+dfsg-5; jessie: 1:4.2.6.p5+dfsg-5 |
| 01:13.27 | codebam | dvs: thank you |
| 01:13.37 | dvs | np |
| 01:14.18 | codebam | ah nice. finally my time is correct |
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| 01:16.16 | codebam | and why cant it extract this tgz file properly... |
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| 01:45.38 | d3fault_ | valdyn, dondelelcaro, try this: apt-get install sip-api-8.1 && apt-get remove sip-api-8.1 && apt-get autoremove -- it stays installed |
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| 01:52.29 | hanasaki | after removing the usb stick debian still thiks it is inserted. |
| 01:53.27 | hanasaki | howto get the kernel to recognize it has been removed? |
| 01:54.45 | copec | Is there a directive for DNS search suffixes for a NetworkManager profile under /etc/NetworkManager/system-connections/ ? |
| 01:54.52 | copec | I don't see a place in the gnome interface for it |
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| 01:58.10 | dondelelcaro | ,versions sip-api-8.1 |
| 01:58.11 | judd | No package named 'sip-api-8.1' was found in i386. |
| 01:58.20 | dondelelcaro | d3fault_: there's no such package with that name |
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| 02:03.24 | docmur | Has anyone been able to get Zimbra 8 installed on Debian Wheezy? |
| 02:04.29 | d3fault_ | weird, sip-api-8.1 installed on my amd64 box... (but yea, packages.debian.org shows no packages for any architectures, wtf?). i'll try to find another virtual package to demonstrate |
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| 02:11.33 | abrotman | judd: versions sip-api-8.1 |
| 02:11.34 | judd | No package named 'sip-api-8.1' was found in i386. |
| 02:11.43 | abrotman | oh, missed that above |
| 02:11.48 | abrotman | judd: versions sip-api-8.1 --arch amd64 |
| 02:11.49 | judd | No package named 'sip-api-8.1' was found in amd64. |
| 02:13.20 | d3fault_ | lol judd idk either. fluke mb? i am not trying to install sip, just want an example of a virtual package |
| 02:13.26 | cra1g321 | https://packages.debian.org/wheezy/sip-api-8.1 |
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| 02:24.49 | d3fault_ | dondelelcaro, judd, apt-get install doom-wad && apt-get remove doom-wad; ...it doesn't get removed |
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| 02:25.29 | abrotman | d3fault_: what do you mean it doesn't get removed? |
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| 02:25.50 | d3fault_ | abrotman. the apt-get remove command is a noop |
| 02:25.59 | abrotman | d3fault_: dpkg -l doom-wad |
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| 02:27.17 | d3fault_ | abrotman, it says "un" next to it. but if i try to install it again, it says "already at newest version" |
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| 02:28.02 | abrotman | d3fault_: does aptitude say anytihng different? |
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| 02:28.48 | d3fault_ | abrotman, nope |
| 02:29.39 | abrotman | d3fault_: apt-get --reinstall install doom-wad ? |
| 02:30.49 | d3fault_ | abrotman, that worked i think. it re-unpacked it and re set it up |
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| 02:34.58 | abrotman | d3fault_: apt-get --purge remove doom-wad |
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| 02:35.37 | AlexLikerock | any one tellme if can see the page http://golden-chat.org/ |
| 02:35.37 | AlexLikerock | please |
| 02:36.02 | abrotman | AlexLikerock: no |
| 02:36.14 | AlexLikerock | tanks abrotman |
| 02:36.30 | cra1g321 | doesnt check random links :D |
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| 02:40.00 | cra1g321 | MS new browser is called Spartan *sigh* |
| 02:40.24 | cra1g321 | seems the only way they can try sell something is to associate it with Halo |
| 02:40.24 | d3fault_ | abrotman, that didn't work. note i'm not trying to uninstall this particular package, just demonsdemonstrate a bug in virtual package removing in general |
| 02:40.30 | cra1g321 | oops wrong channel |
| 02:40.53 | d3fault_ | lol my stdin got mixed with the stdout and i couldn't read my own words demondemonstratata (sic IRC client) |
| 02:42.43 | abrotman | d3fault_: it didn't remove it either? |
| 02:42.51 | d3fault_ | abrotman, nope |
| 02:43.43 | abrotman | d3fault_: did you look to see if it removes the files? |
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| 02:45.36 | cra1g321 | doom-wad is a virtual package provided by doom-wad-shareware, just a quick noob guess but maybe you need to remove that package ? |
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| 02:47.59 | d3fault_ | abrotman, i just checked that purge did not remove the files |
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| 02:51.03 | d3fault_ | abrotman? is this a bug? i always thought it was just bad a bad design decision xD |
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| 02:53.01 | abrotman | d3fault_: maybe check the BTS, see if there's a bug already |
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| 03:07.29 | _habnabit | so, modulo restarting a machine, is `ifdown eth0; sleep 2; ifup eth0` or so the best way to reconfigure an interface? |
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| 03:12.09 | keltim | _habnabit, service networking restart or reload, but you can do that. That won't pick up changes you made in /etc/default or /etc/network/ though |
| 03:12.32 | _habnabit | keltim, i'd thought that restarting the networking service was deprecated or discouraged |
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| 03:13.26 | keltim | I'm looking at wheezy, but if so, ifup more low level, there would be a more sophisticated solution in place I think |
| 03:14.05 | _habnabit | okay |
| 03:14.54 | keltim | if you're using testing or sid there should be something obvious in /etc |
| 03:15.06 | _habnabit | nope, i'm using wheezy |
| 03:15.19 | keltim | there is probably a systemd way to do it now |
| 03:17.39 | keltim | _habnabit, ah, look at the upstart network scripts in /etc/init |
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| 03:18.01 | _habnabit | keltim, wheezy uses upstart...? |
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| 03:18.50 | keltim | it supports all of them |
| 03:21.49 | keltim | my /sbin/init in wheezy belongs to upstart |
| 03:22.19 | _habnabit | i see |
| 03:22.31 | _habnabit | i didn't know you could switch init in wheezy |
| 03:22.36 | themill | _habnabit: wheezy uses sysvinit unless you break it in very interesting ways |
| 03:22.50 | keltim | systemd was a preview, upstart default, sysv ok to use |
| 03:23.01 | themill | no, upstart is not the default in wheezy |
| 03:23.25 | keltim | sysv is? |
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| 03:24.17 | keltim | my VPS wheezy is upstart. hm. |
| 03:25.59 | themill | doesn't sound very much like wheezy. To run wheezy with upstart, you've got to remove Essential packages and apt won't let you do that. |
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| 03:27.19 | docmur | has anyone had luck installing Zimbra 8.0.6 with Debian 7? |
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| 03:28.23 | keltim | themill, there's no /etc/initab and sysv isn't installed. I wonder why they did that |
| 03:28.54 | keltim | It confused me since I thought for sure sysv was default in wheezy |
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| 03:46.34 | blocktree | From my blog I'm linking to a current stable debian KDE cd1 iso image. Everytime there is a minor update I need to go manualy back a update the link eg from 7.2 to 7.3 and so on. Is there a URL I can use which always points to a current stable ISO? |
| 03:48.03 | kodur | I have installed xmonad. I start it from command line after logging in with startx. I want ~/.Xresources to load automatically for my urxvt configuration. I added the line: '[[ -f ~/.Xresources ]] && xrdb -merge ~/.Xresources' to my ~/.xinitrc but my terminal is not looking like that file is loaded. after I run xrb -merge manually, new terminal windows have my colors |
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| 03:51.36 | themill | blocktree: no. There's a directory called "current" but the image name still changes at each point release. |
| 03:53.24 | themill | ,bug 605709 |
| 03:53.25 | judd | Bug http://bugs.debian.org/605709 in cdimage.debian.org (open): «cdimage.debian.org: provide symlink "current" pointing to most recent netinst ISO»; severity: wishlist; opened: 2010-12-02; last modified: 2010-12-02. |
| 03:54.25 | themill | (fwiw -- a symlink would accomplish this but it would make the downloaded filename meaningless for debugging purposes -- "what image did you use?" "current" "when did you download it then, which one was current at the time?" |
| 03:57.12 | blocktree | currenlty I use http://gensho.acc.umu.se/debian-cd/7.8.0/i386/iso-cd/debian-7.8.0-i386-kde-CD-1.iso |
| 03:57.40 | blocktree | I need this also for 64bit and live cd |
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| 03:59.31 | blocktree | themill: I have alredy made an apache redirect for this so I do not have to open CMS ... I guess I need to do some scripting and run update agains the current directory.. |
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| 04:01.09 | blocktree | themill: another alternative is to point to some sort of archives and point to the same image.. |
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| 04:05.29 | UnixMaster | fuck Debian its less flexible and therefore less unix-like than Slackware and OpenBSD. Fuck Debian and its systemd faggotness |
| 04:05.42 | UnixMaster | openbsd and slackware : the unix way is the one true way |
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| 04:50.41 | warsh | I installed debian wheezy with Xfce, what's the name of Xfce's service; I need to stop it to install nvidia drivers |
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| 05:26.30 | bobbyb | I don't know how to run a program, it is available as a binary file. Someone told me that was ok if just I would copy it in the BIN folder.. someone knows which folder exactly it is? there are more that 1 bin folder in wheezy |
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| 05:30.48 | hedwetter | try /bin bobbyb |
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| 06:26.56 | madushan1000 | Hi all :) |
| 06:27.09 | madushan1000 | I'm trying to install debian 7.8.0 ppc version on a IBM power5 hypervisor |
| 06:27.25 | madushan1000 | The installation goes fine but at the end the installer can't install the bootloader |
| 06:27.37 | madushan1000 | Either yaboot or grub. |
| 06:27.50 | madushan1000 | Is there any way I can fix this? |
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| 06:56.22 | rapha | Hi! |
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| 06:56.55 | rapha | Freshly installed Jessie - USB sticks not writable by user, only by root (no matter what desktop environment). Can somebody help? |
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| 07:11.16 | Mike5kt | hello I am a debian newbie, I have a problem running a pakage that is just a binary. No way to run it, lots of problems from days for a stupid common program. Anyway ubuntu make it run just by clicking on it, now my question is: WHAT PAKAGE HAS UBUNTU THAT DEBIAN HAS NOT to run this pakage that is not compiled? VERY THANKS |
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| 07:13.10 | SirLagz | Mike5kt: what are you trying to run ? |
| 07:13.17 | petn-randall | Hi Mike5kt! What package is it? What error do you get? |
| 07:13.18 | Mike5kt | telegram |
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| 07:13.50 | Tofawn | how do i install xchat on live debian i have on my usb? |
| 07:13.50 | Mike5kt | telegram fro linux 64bit |
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| 07:13.57 | SirLagz | Mike5kt: how do you obtain this program ? |
| 07:14.01 | SirLagz | Mike5kt: did you apt-get install it ? |
| 07:14.08 | Mike5kt | from telegram |
| 07:14.08 | SirLagz | Tofawn: why not just apt-get install xchat ? |
| 07:14.15 | Tofawn | yes, it saya permission denied |
| 07:14.28 | petn-randall | Tofawn: You have to be root for that. |
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| 07:14.52 | Tofawn | i do not have the root pass for my live debian usb |
| 07:15.02 | SirLagz | Tofawn: probably need to use sudo |
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| 07:15.14 | Tofawn | oh ok, yes, forgot sudo |
| 07:15.17 | Mike5kt | yes apt-get install NO WAY to run it |
| 07:15.19 | petn-randall | Tofawn: Either use sudo, or check the website, I think it might be there. |
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| 07:15.42 | SirLagz | Mike5kt: is there a set of instructions that you follow to install telegram ? |
| 07:15.49 | petn-randall | Mike5kt: So what is the error you get when you run it? Paste the full output to http://paste.debian.net |
| 07:15.51 | Tofawn | just a idea, i want to install missing firmware on my live usb |
| 07:15.53 | Mike5kt | NO INSTRUCTIONS |
| 07:16.16 | Tofawn | how do i install missing firmware on my live debian usb? |
| 07:16.30 | petn-randall | Tofawn: Use apt-get install for that, what firmware are you missing? |
| 07:16.45 | Tofawn | wifi firmware are missing |
| 07:16.48 | Mike5kt | ok few minutes and i will post the error |
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| 07:18.03 | Tofawn | after installing firmware with apt-get if i restart my computer then will there be need to install firmware for wifi? |
| 07:18.46 | petn-randall | Tofawn: Is your Debian live persistent? |
| 07:19.30 | Tofawn | oh, i have no idea if my debian is persistant or how to make ot persistant |
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| 07:23.23 | n705 | please tell me how to make live debian on usb , a persistent debian? |
| 07:23.47 | n705 | i want to install missing firmware on live usb |
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| 07:24.31 | n705 | so many f next time i boot from my usb then there should be no need to install the firmware again, how i do this. |
| 07:25.01 | Mike5kt | http://paste.debian.net/164045/ |
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| 07:25.23 | Mike5kt | let's see if i can resolve this problem |
| 07:27.12 | Mike5kt | guys i have posted about the telegram problem |
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| 07:38.59 | Mike5kt | helloooooooooo |
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| 07:40.52 | rapha | dpkg: automount? |
| 07:40.52 | dpkg | If you're running one of the desktop environments in Debian, then ask me about <kde automount>, <thunar-volman>. If you want something for the command line, then ask me about <usbmount>, <pmount> or <halevt>. For a completely different approach to automounting, ask me about <autofs>. |
| 07:40.58 | Resilience | I am using xfce and it aches about hddtemp not being setuid rot so it cannot read the hd temperature, should I turn it setuid or should I sudoi it? |
| 07:41.25 | rapha | dpkg: cinnamon automount? |
| 07:41.27 | dpkg | rapha: are you using Windows? |
| 07:41.40 | rapha | dpkg: fuck, no! what's cinnamon got to do with windows? |
| 07:41.42 | dpkg | rapha: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about |
| 07:41.53 | rapha | of course you don't you're just a bot. |
| 07:45.19 | rapha | dpkg: halevt? |
| 07:45.19 | dpkg | somebody said halevt was a clean-room rewrite of <ivman> which is a generic handler for <hal> events. Amongst other things, it mounts devices when they are attached to the system. |
| 07:45.28 | Mike5kt | alloooo |
| 07:45.30 | rapha | dpkg: udev? |
| 07:45.31 | dpkg | udev is a /dev and hotplug management daemon, the Linux kernel's userspace equivalent of <DevFS>. Ask me about <udev mac>, <blacklist.conf>. See also <udev rules>, <udev squeeze>, <udev details>, <dpin>, <devtmpfs>. http://wiki.debian.org/udev #udev on irc.freenode.net. |
| 07:45.44 | rapha | dpkg: udev rules? |
| 07:45.45 | dpkg | extra, extra, read all about it, udev rules is http://www.reactivated.net/writing_udev_rules.html |
| 07:45.52 | Mike5kt | http://paste.debian.net/164045/ |
| 07:45.58 | Mike5kt | help me |
| 07:46.11 | Mike5kt | how to install telegram??????? |
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| 07:46.20 | rapha | !automount |
| 07:46.21 | dpkg | If you're running one of the desktop environments in Debian, then ask me about <kde automount>, <thunar-volman>. If you want something for the command line, then ask me about <usbmount>, <pmount> or <halevt>. For a completely different approach to automounting, ask me about <autofs>. |
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| 07:46.26 | Mike5kt | it's 3 days |
| 07:46.28 | Mike5kt | damn |
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| 07:47.56 | bazhang | ,v telegram |
| 07:47.57 | judd | No package named 'telegram' was found in i386. |
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| 07:49.51 | Mike5kt | how to install the pakage from telegram.org???????? |
| 07:50.10 | bazhang | what package is that Mike5kt |
| 07:50.11 | Mike5kt | linux 64bit |
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| 07:50.47 | bazhang | Mike5kt, give a clear description; just repeating with lots of question marks will get little help |
| 07:51.07 | Mike5kt | tesetup.0.8.0.tar.xz |
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| 07:51.27 | bazhang | what does telegram do Mike5kt |
| 07:51.36 | Mike5kt | that's the file, i download unzip it and doesn't run |
| 07:51.50 | Mike5kt | nothing it does nothing on debian why??? |
| 07:52.09 | Mike5kt | on ubuntu just a click and it run! |
| 07:52.13 | bazhang | Mike5kt, what is it SUPPOSED to do |
| 07:52.15 | Mike5kt | why on debian no? |
| 07:52.31 | Mike5kt | it is a chat |
| 07:52.54 | Mike5kt | shoud start the chat gui and i can chat with my contacts |
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| 07:53.27 | Mike5kt | i want install it but i cant on debian wheezy |
| 07:53.27 | bazhang | Mike5kt, you really need to give more than three or four word answers, its not clear what you want to do at all |
| 07:53.44 | Mike5kt | i want install it |
| 07:53.56 | Mike5kt | or even just run it |
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| 07:54.18 | bazhang | Mike5kt, and what are the exact error messages you get when you try to run it |
| 07:54.22 | Mike5kt | https://desktop.telegram.org/ this is the website i download the file but can't run it |
| 07:54.49 | Mike5kt | http://paste.debian.net/164045/ |
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| 07:56.27 | Mike5kt | then??? |
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| 07:59.53 | axel_fly | would be gnome-software package in the debian jessie release? |
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| 08:00.51 | Mike5kt | i am on wheezy |
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| 08:01.50 | adc | Mike5kt: you shouldn't run `apt-get install telegram`. It isn't a debian package in the repositories, it's a binary on your filesystem |
| 08:02.03 | adc | Mike5kt: the output tells you that you need the proper glibc packages to run it |
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| 08:02.17 | Mike5kt | ok then? |
| 08:02.21 | Mike5kt | what to do?^ |
| 08:03.19 | adc | Mike5kt: try to run `sudo apt-get install libc6-dev`, and try `./Telegram` afterwards |
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| 08:04.51 | Mike5kt | it is: already the newest version |
| 08:05.01 | Mike5kt | this is what the terminal says |
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| 08:05.49 | adc | Mike5kt: try also `sudo apt-get install libc6` |
| 08:06.20 | Mike5kt | same result |
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| 08:09.07 | adc | Mike5kt: what version number does it show if you run `apt-cache show libc6`? |
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| 08:11.05 | Mike5kt | http://paste.debian.net/164051/ |
| 08:11.14 | adc | Mike5kt: ah, I found the problem. Telegram won't work with Debian Wheezy, since it ships with libc6 version 2.13. Telegram apparently requires libc 2.14 or newer. If you upgrade to Debian Jessie (testing), it will work. Jessie ships with libc6 2.19. |
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| 08:11.59 | adc | Mike5kt: The Ubuntu version you tried probably also has a libc6 newer than 2.13, which explained why it worked there. |
| 08:12.17 | Mike5kt | so there's nothing to do? |
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| 08:12.34 | adc | Mike5kt: You can upgrade to Debian Jessie |
| 08:12.55 | Mike5kt | but it would be not stable... i am not expert |
| 08:13.00 | digitaldefector | does the BSD version of Debian support all the debian packages normal to Debian Linux |
| 08:13.01 | digitaldefector | ? |
| 08:13.08 | Mike5kt | and i could do mess |
| 08:13.27 | Mike5kt | anyway i will try jessie ok |
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| 08:13.37 | adc | Mike5kt: it's pretty stable at the moment. In fact, it will become the official stable version within a few months |
| 08:13.52 | Mike5kt | ok thanks |
| 08:14.00 | adc | Mike5kt: no problem |
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| 08:15.00 | Tofawn | what i need to download to make my live debian persistent? |
| 08:15.12 | digitaldefector | or KBSD as Debian calls it |
| 08:15.22 | sweb | i increase my datetime on server one hour but did not save ... date --set='+1 hours' |
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| 08:15.54 | digitaldefector | I wan't to try FreeBSD, but I'm not sure if I should jumpship |
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| 08:16.15 | sweb | after few seconds time will be sync ... ntp service is stop |
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| 08:26.57 | mjkr | suppose i just installed package foo from apt-get. now how do i create a .deb package for this foo from my system? |
| 08:26.57 | adc | digitaldefector: not sure it precisely answers your question, but you can always check if a package exists for kfreebsd on https://packages.debian.org |
| 08:29.28 | adc | mjkr: the packages you download and install using apt-get will be located in /var/cache/apt/archives until you run `apt-get clean` |
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| 08:30.08 | mjkr | adc: so basically i cannot rebuild the package from the filesystem? |
| 08:30.30 | mjkr | since that path is empty already |
| 08:30.32 | adc | mjkr: oh sure you can. Then you have to download the source package first |
| 08:30.50 | mjkr | sounds tedious |
| 08:31.29 | adc | mjkr: did you install a package which is no longer available in the repositories? |
| 08:32.12 | mjkr | it's on ubnt's edgerouter lite, which runs debian. i wanna deprive their vyatta system control over my /etc/ipsec.conf, so i will have to purge vyatta-cfg-vpn |
| 08:32.54 | mjkr | however, i want a backup in case something went wrong, hence the search for a way to create the backup debs |
| 08:33.18 | adc | mjkr: ah I see. What about creating a full system backup and trying to purge afterwards? |
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| 08:33.50 | mjkr | erh, no |
| 08:33.59 | mjkr | it's about creating a backup package for vyatta-cfg-vpn |
| 08:34.05 | mjkr | which is listed in dpkg -l |
| 08:34.36 | mjkr | the package vyatta-cfg-vpn is on the system already, but i want to generate a deb package backup in case i wanna get it back on |
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| 08:35.22 | adc | mjkr: I understand. You could pack all files listed from `dpkg -L vyatta-cfg-vpn` into an archive which you can later reinstall |
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| 08:35.48 | adc | dpkg -L <pkg> lists all files installed from a given package |
| 08:35.49 | dpkg | No packages found matching <pkg> lists all files installed from a given package |
| 08:36.21 | mjkr | okey |
| 08:36.33 | mjkr | if only they just provde me with the debs |
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| 08:37.54 | SynrGy | mjkr: yes, you can use dpkg-repack |
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| 08:38.24 | DarsVaeda | how do I install nodejs & npm on jessie? I try the npm install script but it always tells me that node is not installed even it is and in /usr/bin which is in the PATH |
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| 08:38.31 | mjkr | SynrGy: thank you! that sounds like something i need exactly! |
| 08:38.35 | SynrGy | i've used this to, for example, repack a package i installed on one system which no longer exists in the cache, which is now removed from the archive so i can install on a second machine |
| 08:38.49 | SynrGy | it has saved my bacon numerous times |
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| 08:40.09 | SynrGy | DarsVaeda: i think the readme says something about it. in debian, the name 'node' was taken by a ham radio package |
| 08:40.29 | SynrGy | i forget the precise suggested workaround (manual symlink?) but the readme should say |
| 08:41.00 | DarsVaeda | ah thanks |
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| 08:47.11 | rapha | c'mon guys it can't be in the interest of debian to have something as simple and basic as automounting of usb devices broken by default. it's f***ing 2015! |
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| 08:48.43 | SynrGy | which desktop? |
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| 08:48.47 | jelly | rapha: works for me in KDE |
| 08:48.55 | SynrGy | on lxde, i found i needed to install udisks-glue |
| 08:49.22 | SynrGy | also, if it's testing or unstable, 'broken by default' is what you signed up for ... ;) |
| 08:49.50 | jelly | well, if it's 4-months-frozen-testing, that's a problem that ideally should be solved |
| 08:49.52 | rapha | SynrGy: I tried Cinnamon, XFCE, Gnome, KDE and LXDE. Always the same problem. |
| 08:50.06 | rapha | jelly: are you also running a fresh Jessie install? |
| 08:50.13 | jelly | rapha: no, wheezy |
| 08:50.25 | mjkr | SynrGy: i have all the debs i need now. it feels so great ;) |
| 08:50.29 | rapha | jelly: okay, well, that's a little more stable :) |
| 08:50.41 | SynrGy | jelly: ideally, yes |
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| 08:50.58 | SynrGy | just pointing out if you're on testing, things *may* be broken |
| 08:51.03 | jelly | rapha: in the interest of Debian, could you please file bug reports for each of those desktop environments? |
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| 08:51.36 | rapha | SynrGy: well, that's fine in principle. It's just weird that it would be so difficult figuring out how to fix it. I assumed I'd just have to write a udev rule, but that doesn't seem to be the problem. |
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| 08:52.01 | rapha | jelly: I'd of course do that, but I'm not at all convinced that any of the DEs is at fault here. |
| 08:52.01 | SynrGy | rapha: as i said. with lxde, udisks-glue does it. and it's a desktop-agnostic workaround |
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| 08:52.40 | rapha | SynrGy: the *really* weird thing is that SD cards work just fine! |
| 08:52.45 | SynrGy | policykit/me shrugs |
| 08:52.50 | SynrGy | oops* |
| 08:52.51 | SynrGy | shrugs |
| 08:52.52 | rapha | hmm |
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| 08:53.04 | rapha | policykit ... has that not been replaced by logind? |
| 08:53.21 | SynrGy | yes. which is why i erased (or meant to erase) that :) |
| 08:53.44 | SynrGy | somehow it needs to figure out who you are and mount it as you |
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| 08:54.28 | SynrGy | udisks-glue is a policykit-based solution it looks like |
| 08:54.49 | SynrGy | rapha: you could start by looking at logind bugs? |
| 08:54.52 | SynrGy | dunno |
| 08:54.59 | rapha | SynrGy: "Mar 31 10:54:15 t430 udisksd[1163]: Mounted /dev/sdc2 (system) at /media/usb1 on behalf of uid 1000" ... so it knows who the correct user is. |
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| 08:59.16 | digitaldefector | how do I tell which packages are available for kBSD? |
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| 08:59.51 | rapha | SynrGy: finally found something: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=767233 ... that looks like exactly what I'm seeing. |
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| 09:00.33 | Bremsstrahlung | digitaldefector: May also want to ask in #debian-kbsd on irc.debian.org. |
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| 09:02.49 | SynrGy | rapha: but old and no answer. so maybe not? |
| 09:03.14 | digitaldefector | irc.debian.org seems to be down as of half an hour ago |
| 09:03.42 | SynrGy | funny. i'm on oftc ... |
| 09:04.06 | SynrGy | try a specific server. that's on DNS rotation |
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| 09:05.22 | digitaldefector | now I'm banned with the client I use |
| 09:05.28 | Bremsstrahlung | lol, what? |
| 09:05.31 | Bremsstrahlung | Seriously? |
| 09:05.33 | digitaldefector | yeah |
| 09:05.43 | Bremsstrahlung | Weird. |
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| 09:06.15 | rapha | SynrGy: yes. Well, at least someone else had the same problem before. |
| 09:06.34 | rapha | SynrGy: and his polkit rule doesn't change anything. |
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| 09:08.49 | Kuba | hey :) |
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| 09:09.14 | rapha | SynrGy: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=740190 - same but for floppies. |
| 09:09.18 | Kuba | hey :) |
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| 09:10.21 | jonkristian | Hi, I am trying to install debian on a hp dl320 g6 server however I can't seem to find the disk driver. I've been googeling for the past hour to find some information about this but have not found anything. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. |
| 09:10.27 | Kuba | I recently rebooted my sid box and openvpn didn't start up properly, because "tun" module was not loaded; I swear that I didn't have to add "tun" to /etc/modules.conf to have it autoloaded; did anything change recently in this respect? |
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| 09:11.38 | SynrGy | rapha: so do you have an /etc/fstab entry like that person? |
| 09:11.46 | SynrGy | as that would definitely ruin things |
| 09:11.57 | digitaldefector | I logged on , but everyones asleep |
| 09:12.02 | Kuba | btw, "Cannot join to channel #debian-next (You must be invited)" |
| 09:12.14 | SynrGy | Kuba: wrong network |
| 09:12.22 | SynrGy | Kuba: #debian-next is on irc.oftc.net |
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| 09:12.28 | Kuba | SynrGy: gotcha, thanks! |
| 09:12.34 | rapha | SynrGy: yes, I actually did (but I didn't add it) - removed it and undid the changes I'd made (polkit rule, udev rule) and now it's working again just fine! :-))) |
| 09:12.46 | SynrGy | rapha: yay for the bts! :) |
| 09:12.59 | SynrGy | where occasionally you can actually find solutions to things ;) |
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| 09:13.24 | rapha | :-D |
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| 09:17.53 | jelly | jonkristian: depending on the controller setup, it ought to be either ahci for the sata controller, or hpsa for a proper smartarray |
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| 09:18.34 | jelly | jonkristian: if you have sata disks, see if you can switch the sata controller to "native" or "ahci" mode instead of raid in bios |
| 09:18.59 | jonkristian | jelly, downloaded an iso for debian from hp and installed it onto a usb drive, now it appears things are working. |
| 09:19.16 | jonkristian | jelly, I found no sata setup in bios, but i did disable the poor-mans raid |
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| 09:19.37 | jonkristian | I've got to partition disks screen now, which is a reliefe. |
| 09:19.38 | jelly | G6 isn't that new, I _think_ debian 7 installer ought to just work |
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| 09:20.21 | jonkristian | It didn't |
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| 09:21.01 | jonkristian | I had to install this iso and boot along with the dvd: HP_ProLiant_Value_Add_Software-8.70-10-6.iso |
| 09:21.44 | jelly | weird |
| 09:21.45 | jonkristian | argh, no hdds in partition disks, only the usb. |
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| 09:34.20 | k_sze[work] | Is there a sane way to say, always map to /dev/sdb1, any logical volume found on a particular RAID controller. |
| 09:34.38 | SynrGy | i question why you would want to do this |
| 09:34.52 | SynrGy | using uuid is generally regarded as best practice |
| 09:35.05 | SynrGy | !uuid |
| 09:35.05 | dpkg | A Universally Unique IDentifier (UUID) is used to reference disk partitions (among other things). See currently known partition UUIDs with 'blkid'. In /etc/fstab, use "UUID=dead-beef-0420-etc" as the partition name. UUIDs help to cope with device name changes such as hda->sda (<libata> transition) or changes in USB disk order discovery. <LVM> tools accept PV/VG/LV UUIDs as arguments, use {pv,vg,lv}display to acquire. |
| 09:35.05 | k_sze[work] | but the UUID changes everytime I swap the disk pack. |
| 09:35.19 | SynrGy | yes. that's by design |
| 09:35.26 | k_sze[work] | which is problematic |
| 09:35.49 | SynrGy | then i don't understand your use case |
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| 09:36.33 | SynrGy | of course with clever udev custom rules, i suppose a lot of things are possible |
| 09:36.46 | k_sze[work] | I want to make it as easy as possible for somebody without much technical knowledge to go swap the disk pack, without having to modify fstab everytime. |
| 09:36.58 | SynrGy | ah. RAID for idiots |
| 09:37.02 | SynrGy | well ... |
| 09:37.14 | SynrGy | if you have idiots maintaining your machine, maybe you should consider replacing them? :) |
| 09:37.17 | SynrGy | just a thought |
| 09:37.56 | k_sze[work] | Maybe we should stop assuming that everyone who comes into contact with a Linux or Debian machine is completely tech savvy. |
| 09:38.14 | SynrGy | running blkid and editing a text file is very *very* basic skills |
| 09:38.27 | SynrGy | if you don't at least have that, you don't belong anywhere near administering a linux system |
| 09:38.41 | k_sze[work] | It's not administering. |
| 09:38.52 | SynrGy | oh? |
| 09:38.56 | k_sze[work] | It's almost just like sending a guy to a remote site to pick up a package. |
| 09:39.04 | jelly | k_sze[work]: what do you mean by logical volume? |
| 09:39.23 | k_sze[work] | jelly: A RAID 5 volume, let's say. |
| 09:39.38 | jelly | so, a LUN presented by a controller? |
| 09:39.53 | SynrGy | disk swaps on a RAID volume are not something i would trust to anyone but an administrator of a system i'm responsible for. |
| 09:40.16 | petn-randall | Imagine them swapping the wrong disk ... |
| 09:40.33 | jelly | it's not one disk, it's the whole volume afaiui |
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| 09:41.18 | k_sze[work] | And even if I'm the one swapping the disk, one less file to edit is always good. |
| 09:41.49 | jelly | k_sze[work]: /dev/disk/by-path might be useful as long as you don't ever never switch controllers pci(e) slot places. ever |
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| 09:42.28 | jonkristian | jelly, it says Intel Sata Controller, but noone of the disks are detected. Do I need any additional drivers? |
| 09:42.46 | SynrGy | which means you have extreme faith in your hardware that it will never die and need to be replaced? :) |
| 09:43.25 | jelly | jonkristian: I don't remember what exactly needs to be done with those |
| 09:43.47 | jelly | if it's set to ahci mode, things should Just Work⢠|
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| 09:45.47 | rapha | jelly: SynrGy: got my bug report acknowledged: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=781582 |
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| 09:46.40 | rapha | hmm. apparently `reportbug' also has a bug. the whole paragraph ended up being one line. |
| 09:48.08 | k_sze[work] | jelly: that's reasonably guaranteed for me, not switching pci-e slot. |
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| 09:52.48 | k_sze[work] | jelly: That seems like a good workaround. |
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| 09:53.20 | k_sze[work] | But I really have no control over what /dev/sd* the volume gets mapped to, right? |
| 09:53.35 | jelly | nope |
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| 09:53.37 | k_sze[work] | I see that the stuff in /dev/disk/by-path are symlinks to /dev/sd* |
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| 09:54.41 | SynrGy | yes. udev sorts that out |
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| 09:59.52 | eptalon | heyas, I do have an xfsrestore related question: as I understand, xfsdump creates a "stream" containing all files; Suppose I selectively want to restore one file, I still need to go through the whole stream to find the resp. file, no? |
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| 10:34.26 | marnom | Hi guys, I'm currently testing our infra on Debian 8 RC2 and just noticed 'pacemaker' is not available at all... I found this thread: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=768922#45 which makes it seem like pacemaker is not going to be in Debian 8 at all |
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| 10:34.51 | marnom | I like Debian, but I'm going to have to consider another OS for our servers if pacemaker is not supported anymore... :( |
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| 10:35.22 | marnom | does anyone know if pacemaker will be updated? |
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| 10:44.15 | bazhang | ,v pacemaker |
| 10:44.16 | judd | Package: pacemaker on i386 -- squeeze: 1.0.9.1+hg15626-1; squeeze-backports: 1.1.7-1~bpo60+1; wheezy: 1.1.7-1; sid: 1.1.10+git20130802-4.1; experimental: 1.1.11-1 |
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| 10:44.29 | bazhang | to what version marnom |
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| 10:53.45 | emj | is debian using apparmor in some way? |
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| 10:54.16 | bazhang | ,v apparmor |
| 10:54.16 | judd | Package: apparmor on i386 -- wheezy: 2.7.103-4; jessie: 2.9.0-3; sid: 2.9.0-3; experimental: 2.9.0-3+exp1 |
| 10:54.28 | bazhang | if you wish to , sure |
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| 10:55.29 | xeirrr | Hi, guys. Why there are so many outdated packages in Sid? |
| 10:55.33 | emj | Thanks, I just had a hard time finding the profile, which I thought would be in the deb file. |
| 10:55.38 | jelly | emj: not many apps have profiles ready, https://wiki.debian.org/AppArmor/Progress |
| 10:56.06 | bazhang | xeirrr, like what |
| 10:56.25 | xeirrr | like xfce packages |
| 10:56.35 | jelly | !tell xeirrr about slushy |
| 10:57.20 | jelly | xeirrr: this will change once jessie is released |
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| 10:58.17 | xeirrr | When Jessie will release? I guess 2 months later? |
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| 11:01.04 | jelly | xeirrr: when it's ready. There's no date set, and the number of critical bugs hasn't really fallen for two months now |
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| 11:01.30 | xeirrr | Okay |
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| 11:37.16 | thnee | I'm thinking of getting one of the latest thinkpads, x250 or x1 carbon, and run debian testing on it. But I can't find much resources for the latest models. Anyone have some experience with them? Will it work? |
| 11:37.40 | thnee | Also, how to deal with the high DPI monitor when running external monitors? |
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| 11:42.59 | LRN | is there a way to remove unneeded drivers from /lib/modules/<kernel version>/drivers somehow? |
| 11:43.16 | LRN | i ran out of disk space on the root partition (already removed other kernels) |
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| 11:43.59 | LRN | the disk was partitioned in the happier times, when 314.5 MB was enough for a kernel... |
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| 11:58.57 | Shadow_7 | LRN: You can compile your own kernel. And make localmodconfig to strip out most modules. Which includes any fs support for things not currently mounted. But I hear you, used to be 450MB after a compile. |
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| 12:00.25 | LRN | Shadow_7, there must be a way to do this without recompiling the kernel. All drivers are modules, so why shouldn't there be a way to remove unused ones? |
| 12:00.48 | LRN | s/All/Most/ |
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| 12:12.15 | Shadow_7 | LRN: from running use modprobe -r. From /lib/modules/ you could rm them individually. But you'd have to know which. And the next kernel update would replace them. |
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| 12:12.46 | LRN | wishes for a driverpurge package |
| 12:12.56 | LRN | like localepurge, but for drivers |
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| 12:13.29 | Shadow_7 | I kind of think that drivers other than filesystem or network should be separated out from the kernel. Like alsa used to be. |
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| 12:15.13 | phix | ah alsa, those were the says |
| 12:15.15 | phix | days* |
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| 12:16.33 | filenox | There are a lot of tools to show the network bandwith using a GUI (in CLI), can someone recommend a tool that shows the bandwidth as text? |
| 12:17.18 | Se7enElven | 9 |
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| 12:17.42 | marvn | filenox: iptraf-ng |
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| 12:20.10 | filenox | marvn: looks like it uses a GUI too, no? |
| 12:20.11 | marvn | filenox: ah, if you mean just text, then vnstat |
| 12:20.16 | filenox | haha, thanks |
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| 12:20.53 | marvn | you have to edit config file befor using, at least in gentoo |
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| 12:21.20 | marvn | and set default iface |
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| 12:23.21 | filenox | marvn: do you know any alternatives? i'm searching for a tool that simply shows the bandwidth for a cgi-bin script |
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| 12:23.49 | filenox | vnstat -l shows live data but you have to cancel it using ctrl+c so it isn't great for scripting afaik |
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| 12:26.16 | marvn | depends, it's more for long term statistics |
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| 12:26.59 | filenox | indeed, i'm searching for live data :) |
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| 12:30.31 | marvn | I'm not sure if there is any tool for that. I think all of existing ones just do a few TX/RX readings and count the bitrate from it |
| 12:30.58 | marvn | so you can do the same parsing an ifconfig output |
| 12:31.26 | filenox | but ifconfig only shows totals if 'm not mistaken |
| 12:31.58 | marvn | yep, but if you do a 2 readings with 1s interval, you can count how much was transfered in the last second |
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| 12:37.25 | filenox | marvn: found something! bwm-ng |
| 12:37.38 | filenox | works pretty nice using the bwm-ng -o html command |
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| 12:40.30 | filenox | http://www.filenox.net/up/1427805621 |
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| 12:46.12 | marvn | filenox: I couldn't resist to write my own bandwith meter. it's probably useless, but here it is :) http://paste.debian.net/164098/ |
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| 12:47.36 | blackflow | filenox: vnstat has dump for machine readability, eg. scripts |
| 12:47.54 | filenox | haha marvn, thanks anyway! |
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| 12:49.27 | Shadow_7 | speedometer is mildly useful for network monitoring. |
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| 12:49.45 | Shadow_7 | but uses 70% of the cpu for only one way xfer on a pi model B |
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| 12:50.13 | filenox | Shadow_7: ... but it looks nice |
| 12:50.16 | filenox | :p |
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| 12:56.36 | Eryn_1983_FL | hi peeps my hdd in zpool was un available so inrestarted and pushed on cords |
| 12:56.50 | Eryn_1983_FL | it up now but i see this in status |
| 12:56.54 | Eryn_1983_FL | http://sprunge.us/afSY |
| 12:57.00 | Eryn_1983_FL | what do i do ? |
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| 12:57.28 | jelly | wtf |
| 12:57.39 | jelly | oh, there's zpool status way down at the bottom |
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| 12:58.30 | jelly | Eryn_1983_FL: you should probably be asking the zfs-on-linux channel, not Debian |
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| 12:59.07 | jelly | Eryn_1983_FL: #zfsonlinux apparentlyh |
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| 13:07.33 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok |
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| 13:16.51 | corepb | I have used some older version of google-talkplugin before, which was compatible with Jessie. Could you please recommend some working version :) ? |
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| 13:17.24 | corepb | I have lost it when I reinstalled system. |
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| 13:22.59 | EvarFlo | corepb: have a look at: https://wiki.debian.org/UnofficialRepositories |
| 13:23.14 | Eryn_1983_FL | jelly: lot of good thhat did nobody there |
| 13:23.27 | corepb | EvarFlo: thanks, I will check |
| 13:23.32 | polyphagia | Eryn_1983_FL: google's repoistory is shut down for some reason |
| 13:23.33 | jelly | Eryn_1983_FL: be patient |
| 13:23.35 | polyphagia | EvarFlo * |
| 13:23.38 | polyphagia | https://dl.google.com/linux/chrome/deb/ |
| 13:23.49 | polyphagia | i had to hunt around on their site to find the talkplugin debian |
| 13:23.52 | polyphagia | deb* |
| 13:24.03 | EvarFlo | i see |
| 13:24.34 | polyphagia | https://www.google.com/tools/dlpage/hangout/download.html?hl=en&platform=linux_ubuntu_x86_64 |
| 13:24.37 | polyphagia | there it is |
| 13:24.40 | EvarFlo | and is there a repository for a grsec patched kernel? |
| 13:25.02 | jelly | EvarFlo: there isn't one. grsecurity upstream reccomends you built it yourself |
| 13:25.15 | EvarFlo | ewww |
| 13:25.19 | jelly | so. many. typos. |
| 13:25.37 | Eryn_1983_FL | wha? why |
| 13:26.00 | jelly | EvarFlo: keeping a single build per system makes sure your attacker cannot easily get to the symbol map |
| 13:26.10 | Eryn_1983_FL | whats wrong with google? |
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| 13:26.39 | EvarFlo | jelly: but it means i need a toolchain on the system in question :( |
| 13:26.43 | jelly | Eryn_1983_FL: that wasn't for you, it was a nickname-miscompletion |
| 13:27.04 | jelly | EvarFlo: you don't have to build it there, just build a custom one somewhere. |
| 13:27.17 | EvarFlo | thats an idea |
| 13:27.18 | Eryn_1983_FL | ok |
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| 13:47.28 | Ooze | Alright I don't think it's overheating, I left the front of the cabinet open last night but my server still randomly reboot at 1am and just again at 9am |
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| 13:54.05 | blackflow | Ooze: you can always use lm_sensors or something to actually check the cpu temp if you're concerned. |
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| 13:54.32 | Ooze | Yeah I tried, lm_sensors couldn't detect any on my machine |
| 13:54.40 | qw | /server irc.chk.zone +6697- best carding IRC network. Connect now! #unix |
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| 13:55.00 | blackflow | Ooze: that's weird, what cpu is that? |
| 13:55.15 | Ooze | <PROTECTED> |
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| 13:55.33 | blackflow | Ooze: that should be measurable through coretemp driver. did you set up lm-sensors properly? |
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| 13:55.54 | Ooze | When I went through the configuration it asks to scan YES or No though all the options |
| 13:56.06 | Ooze | I did yes through them all as reccomended, and at then end it said it couldn't find any sensors |
| 13:56.20 | Ooze | https://www.debian-administration.org/article/327/Monitoring_your_hardware%27s_temperature |
| 13:56.35 | Ooze | Followed that, after 'sensors-detect' and running the config it couldn't find any |
| 13:57.43 | blackflow | Ooze: is coretemp blacklisted or something on your machine? |
| 13:58.11 | Ooze | Not that I know of... |
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| 13:59.03 | blackflow | Ooze: and lsmod shows coretemp loaded? |
| 13:59.36 | Ooze | http://paste.incorrigible.me/varugaziwo.hs |
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| 14:00.32 | Ooze | Yup I see |
| 14:00.32 | Ooze | coretemp 12898 0 |
| 14:01.23 | jelly | Ooze: which server brand and model is this? The vendor may have disabled bits of cpu functionality from the bios and expects you to use their own sensor solutions |
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| 14:01.37 | ChrisH | Ooze: opening the cabinet doors might prevent proper AirFlow. Is that a server with ILOM/SP/xxx processor to check and monitor the HW? |
| 14:01.40 | Ooze | System: HP ProLiant DL380 G3 |
| 14:01.48 | jelly | wow, old |
| 14:02.07 | ChrisH | open the box and clean the fans :) |
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| 14:02.13 | Ooze | Well I only opened the cabinet door after it rebooting like this on me a couple times yesterday, thought it could have been restricting |
| 14:02.17 | jelly | that's a P4-age Xeon. I'm surprised coretemp even loaded. |
| 14:02.19 | Ooze | But it still does it, so I'm not sure that's the problem |
| 14:02.38 | Ooze | I don't know what you mean by the second part of that ChrisH, sorry |
| 14:02.44 | jelly | Ooze: log into iLO web ui and look at IML and iLO logs |
| 14:03.28 | Ooze | Oh I think when I boot that says it's not set up |
| 14:03.31 | Ooze | ...something like that |
| 14:03.34 | ChrisH | Ooze: that was what I mean... I am unfamiliar with HP HW... Therefore I used the Sun terminologie and jelly could translate :) |
| 14:03.56 | jelly | Ooze: you'll want to set iLO up and connect it to your management network segment |
| 14:04.03 | jelly | it's useful. |
| 14:04.03 | ChrisH | Ooze: then setup iLO and check the HW and console logs from there |
| 14:04.29 | Ooze | I feel like all the documentation I find is newer than the hardware and therefore irrelevant |
| 14:04.55 | jelly | on G3 iLO has a separate eth. port behind |
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| 14:05.12 | Ooze | Yeah there are two ethernet ports |
| 14:05.20 | jelly | Ooze: there should be three. |
| 14:05.32 | jelly | two gigabit ethernet, one ilo |
| 14:05.35 | Ooze | ah |
| 14:05.45 | Ooze | Gimme a sec and I'll move down there |
| 14:05.57 | jelly | the ilo port is somewhere on the side afair |
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| 14:07.06 | ChrisH | ...and normally the first to be cabled. unless you like installing in DC |
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| 14:07.57 | jelly | Ooze: http://h20628.www2.hp.com/km-ext/kmcsdirect/emr_na-c00065010-1.pdf page 84 |
| 14:08.33 | jelly | (second link googling for: DL 380.G3 manual) |
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| 14:10.55 | Ooze | Yeah I found the port |
| 14:11.22 | Ooze | sorry, forgot to charge laptop |
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| 14:12.43 | Drugo | are these still the same for jessie? https://www.debian.org/releases/stable/i386/ch03s04.html.en |
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| 14:13.11 | jelly | Drugo: replace "stable" with "jessie" in that URL |
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| 14:13.56 | Drugo | jelly, thanks |
| 14:14.41 | Ooze | mmmmkay |
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| 14:15.33 | Ooze | Gonna try to set it up in bios now |
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| 14:15.47 | Ooze | I initially thought it was just some thing for the hard drive lights in the front or something |
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| 14:16.28 | Ooze | Alright just set it to default, hope that's alright |
| 14:16.37 | jelly | Ooze: you'll have to do initial setup from the ilo bios, yeah, or make sure there's a dhcp server in the segment where you connected it, and use login info from the plastic label in front of the machine |
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| 14:17.17 | jelly | Ooze: at the very least you want to configure the network correctly and set a password for the Administrator user |
| 14:17.49 | Ooze | Bleh I don't have enough ports on this switch, going to have to downgrade to 10/100 for a bit |
| 14:17.55 | Ooze | Will lose connection but I'll be back |
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| 14:22.45 | smj | What are some capable alternatives to LaTeX? I've had just enough undecipherable error messages for now |
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| 14:37.16 | Ooze | Okayyyyy |
| 14:37.27 | Ooze | Plugged in and configured, not sure it's connected though |
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| 14:37.38 | Ooze | Just set it to DHCP and hope it werkz? |
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| 14:39.11 | Ooze | ayy cool it got an IP |
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| 14:42.20 | smj | ls |
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| 14:44.19 | Ooze | Wow I need to filter join/part on this channel |
| 14:44.24 | Ooze | All of Freenode probably |
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| 14:48.34 | Bremsstrahlung | What's a good program to be able to edit PDF files on Debian? In particular, be able to copy certain sections of a page to a separate PDF? |
| 14:48.43 | Bremsstrahlung | Wheezy (7.8) here. |
| 14:49.17 | ChrisH | Bremsstrahlung: copy paste in okular or pdf2ps or ... |
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| 14:54.18 | Bremsstrahlung | ChrisH, do those allow copying sections of specific pages to their own PDFs? |
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| 14:58.31 | DavidFromBelgium | Hello, fresh wheezy install on a usb key (not live, full install). Are there any recommandations to reduce disk access ? The system seems slow from time to time, I suspect disk activity... |
| 14:58.35 | jelly | Bremsstrahlung: is there a tool that can do that on windows or osx? |
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| 14:59.06 | Bremsstrahlung | jelly: ? I dunno? I'm asking for one on Wheezy. |
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| 14:59.11 | Bremsstrahlung | I dunno about Windows. |
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| 15:00.02 | ychaouche | Hello #debian |
| 15:00.08 | jelly | Bremsstrahlung: I think if you're _lucky_ you'll be able to copy text out. And not necessarily into a .pdf, but some editor or text writer. |
| 15:00.18 | Bremsstrahlung | Hm. |
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| 15:00.40 | Bremsstrahlung | jelly: Let me explain my game plan; I want to extract a section from a PDF into another PDF to use it in pdfLaTeX. |
| 15:00.50 | Bremsstrahlung | That was the idea I had. |
| 15:00.58 | abrotman | Bremsstrahlung: note, you can't always copy the contents of a PDF, such as one that was generated from an image |
| 15:01.07 | Bremsstrahlung | This one is vectorized. |
| 15:01.16 | ychaouche | I am trying to recreate this routing table on another machine : https://gist.githubusercontent.com/ychaouche/5f8569e77677d2fb0d8d/raw/b44320df32664b9cc931a27d43995bbdfe47e7f7/gistfile1.txt |
| 15:01.17 | Bremsstrahlung | So that isn't the issue with this specific PDF I want to work with. |
| 15:01.28 | jelly | that would be too useful, I fear |
| 15:01.31 | ychaouche | I don't know how to create the localnet line ? |
| 15:01.42 | ychaouche | I managed to create the default gateway line but not the localnet one. |
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| 15:02.40 | ychaouche | Here's what I tried so far : https://gist.githubusercontent.com/ychaouche/1c9d9193dbca65c32ffe/raw/70bfd7bcbf81e50e415893c1fc45d810ffaddd0b/gistfile1.txt |
| 15:03.05 | ychaouche | that created a loopback line but I want the localnet line. |
| 15:03.07 | jelly | ychaouche: what does "route -n" say? |
| 15:03.59 | jelly | in other words, what hides behind "localnet" |
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| 15:04.19 | ychaouche | jelly: https://gist.githubusercontent.com/ychaouche/50980d09923cb3545ed2/raw/5a27f2c7a042418b73332d1791a467eecd5e5731/gistfile1.txt |
| 15:05.07 | ychaouche | localnet is 10.10.10.0 |
| 15:05.21 | ychaouche | then I really don't understand why the other machine can't traceroute like all the others ... |
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| 15:06.01 | jelly | ychaouche: note the difference in routes for "eth1" being set up on the problematic machine, but "eth0" on the working one |
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| 15:06.36 | ychaouche | yeah but I think that's normal, we had a driver issue on eth0 if i recall correctly |
| 15:06.43 | ychaouche | so we used eth1 |
| 15:06.53 | ychaouche | I'll explain why I'm trying to do this |
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| 15:07.46 | jelly | it's quite unusual to have an explicit route for 127.0.0.0/8 and to make that traffic go out a physical interface |
| 15:08.05 | jelly | worse, it's not even 127.0.0.0/8, it's 127.0.0.0/24 |
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| 15:10.14 | ychaouche | jelly, my problem is that I can't traceroute a spefcic address from one specific machine, but can traceroute on many other machiens of the same network (who all have the same routing table) : https://gist.githubusercontent.com/ychaouche/999ab72dcf29cea08adc/raw/cdb804146054ed62b17c6be85cb5c4f4958653f2/gistfile1.txt |
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| 15:11.13 | jelly | ychaouche: pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces, and output of "ip l", "ip a", "ip r" on problematic machine. |
| 15:11.51 | jelly | ychaouche: are these physical machines or VMs? |
| 15:11.59 | ychaouche | removed the loopback line on problematic machine :https://gist.githubusercontent.com/ychaouche/8840319664774a8a2862/raw/77790e9e20ffc1a19c8dc4e117d339984d971d73/gistfile1.txt |
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| 15:12.14 | ychaouche | jelly: .82 and .26 are VMS, .7, .19 are real. |
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| 15:12.31 | ychaouche | the problematic is .7 |
| 15:12.41 | ychaouche | ok will paste |
| 15:13.35 | jelly | that traceroute output seems wrong anyway, at least your default gw should be in the output |
| 15:13.55 | ychaouche | https://gist.githubusercontent.com/ychaouche/4eb7b2619cd310d50722/raw/c5412c721c5316aba23fbc0e820084a593000dde/gistfile1.txt |
| 15:14.35 | ychaouche | some guys on #linux suggest it's a router fault. But being the only machine with that problem it seems odd, not ? |
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| 15:17.11 | ychaouche | there's a slight difference in the output of ip r on the non working and on the working |
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| 15:17.29 | ychaouche | working : default via 10.10.10.10 dev eth0 |
| 15:17.45 | ychaouche | non working : default via 10.10.10.10 dev eth1 proto static |
| 15:18.03 | ychaouche | there's this proto static which is added on the non working machine |
| 15:18.27 | smw | Is there a command to parse a debian changelog and return the version number? |
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| 15:20.47 | ychaouche | aren't there multiple version numbers in any changelog ? |
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| 15:35.34 | DebianTest | nevermind, got it |
| 15:38.23 | Ooze | jelly, you still around? |
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| 15:40.51 | jelly | Ooze: not really |
| 15:41.08 | Ooze | mmkay |
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| 15:41.30 | Ooze | Which did you say to check in iLO? My logs don't scroll up that far |
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| 15:45.36 | jelly | Ooze: IML and iLO logs for any clues about reasons for reboot |
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| 15:46.15 | Ooze | The iLO Event Log just has 'Server power removed', |
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| 15:46.23 | Ooze | 'Server power resttored', over and over |
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| 15:46.47 | Ooze | http://paste.incorrigible.me/nicofunule.hs |
| 15:47.07 | Ooze | Reading HP forums for temp sensors |
| 15:48.10 | jelly | Ooze: set correct time in ilo, and see if it happens again |
| 15:48.33 | Ooze | >On-board clock set; was previously [NOT SET] |
| 15:48.35 | jelly | don't remember if you can see sensors in iLO 1 web |
| 15:48.38 | Ooze | Hopefully that does it? |
| 15:48.59 | Ooze | I'm not seeing any... |
| 15:49.07 | Ooze | This says there are sensors in the machine though http://h30499.www3.hp.com/t5/ProLiant-Servers-ML-DL-SL/Identifying-Proliant-DL380-G3-Temperature-Sensors/td-p/3554872 |
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| 15:53.25 | Ooze | Here I think I might have found the driver |
| 15:53.25 | Ooze | http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/swd/public/readIndex?sp4ts.oid=390828&lang=en&lang=en&cc=us&cc=us |
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| 15:53.35 | Ooze | I don't see Debian in the list though, unless I'm blind |
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| 15:55.59 | jelly | Ooze: HP didn't care a lot about Debian in 2003 |
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| 15:56.58 | Ooze | Yeah doesn't look like it |
| 15:57.06 | Ooze | Is there anything else in that list I could use that would work? |
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| 15:57.47 | jrtappers | Is there a good way to take an incremental backup to a file? I currently TAR everything and encrypt it with my gpg key, and would like to reduce the duplicated space |
| 15:57.47 | jelly | you can install hpacucli to look at raid array/disk status |
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| 15:58.11 | Ooze | Eh I don't care about that really, I think it's either a CPU temp error or something that's shutting it down |
| 15:58.26 | jelly | Ooze: if you show a screenshot of iLO I might remember if there's anything useful |
| 15:58.28 | Ooze | Looks like it just kills the power and I assume that's because it's too hot, but I don't know unless I get some temp sensors working |
| 15:58.34 | Ooze | mmmkay |
| 15:59.02 | jrtappers | I have seen duplicity, but that doesn't seem to like to do incrementals with only the public key |
| 15:59.30 | Ooze | Messaged it to your jelly |
| 16:00.23 | ChrisH | Ooze: the ilo should be able to send sysylog and/or SNMP traps to another box. I assume you have another box to receive syslog or snmp traps and log them |
| 16:01.17 | Ooze | Yeah I've got another, I'll look into that |
| 16:01.26 | jelly | Ooze: does the machine have redundant power supplies or only one? |
| 16:01.34 | Ooze | redundant |
| 16:01.59 | Ooze | I think I might be using a lower gauge power cord for one of them though? Not sure if that would have an effect |
| 16:02.07 | Ooze | It's just not as thick, but they're the same type of cable |
| 16:02.49 | jelly | nope, you wouldn't get "power removed" if only one got disconnected |
| 16:03.31 | Ooze | I'll move them from the rack power to another power source and see if that does anything |
| 16:03.42 | Ooze | Or maybe I should wait a couple hours and see if it does it again, maybe setting the iLO clock helped? |
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| 16:03.45 | ChrisH | but reseating the Power Supplies might be a valid approach |
| 16:05.20 | petn-randall | jrtappers: rdiff-backup? If you have servers, something like bacula or bareos might work for you, too. |
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| 16:14.06 | jelly | Ooze: ilo clock just helps to get timestamps in the logs right |
| 16:14.06 | Ooze | Anyone here a SNMP trap collector wizard? |
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| 16:14.27 | Ooze | I'm thinking it's just got to be something w/ the power then, either that or overheating |
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| 16:14.42 | Ooze | I still feel like recording the logs to another machine will still just give me what I get on this, power on power off |
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| 16:15.17 | aleksander | how do I make so that if a ChangeLog file is included in a deb file, it doesn't get installed gzipped? right now if I add it, it will be automatically gzipped... |
| 16:15.19 | ChrisH | Ooze: I used snmpd: /usr/sbin/snmptrapd to collect traps from a zyxel router doing weird stuff |
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| 16:15.38 | Ooze | sounds wild |
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| 16:15.53 | Ooze | I just want to send from this Debian iLO to another Debian machine |
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| 16:16.18 | ChrisH | Ooze: from the log you posted I would assume that, too. config from /usr/sbin/snmptrapd was easy and normally you can send test traps from ILO |
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| 16:17.15 | Ooze | So if I just put that machine's IP in the iLO SNMP settings do I have to configure anything on the other Debian machine? |
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| 16:20.51 | ChrisH | Ooze: yes... a bit |
| 16:21.31 | Ooze | Any documentation? Google just pulls up file lists and stuff |
| 16:21.37 | Ooze | Dunno what I'm looking for really |
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| 16:22.01 | ChrisH | Ooze: snmptrapd seems to be moved to a sperate package meanwhile |
| 16:22.04 | setuid | I've been mirroring Debian for awhile, and wondering what's the best way to make my mirror public.. |
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| 16:22.19 | setuid | Mirrored it internally for my own use, on my own hosts that is |
| 16:22.27 | setuid | Now I'm willing to expose that so others can point to it, if needed |
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| 16:24.02 | ChrisH | Ooze: https://mathias-kettner.de/checkmk_mkeventd_traps.html echo "authCommunity log public" >> /etc/snmp/snmptrapd.conf |
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| 16:37.24 | Ooze | ChrisH, I don't have it installed yet, so I don't have any of the files in /etc and such |
| 16:37.36 | Ooze | apt-get install snmptrapd comes back empty too |
| 16:37.48 | Ooze | I was just doing the Processing SNMP Traps with the Event Console (using snmptrapd + syslog) section |
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| 16:38.39 | ChrisH | Ooze: need to leave now.... but I assume there are more helpful ones here... |
| 16:38.49 | Ooze | bleh |
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| 16:38.55 | Ooze | Alright, thanks bunches |
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| 16:48.09 | GeekDude | Lets say I use dd to write a 900M .img file to a 32G SD card. I later want to take an image off the card, but only want a 900M .img file. (How) Can I do this? |
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| 16:48.51 | Ooze | shit I just set up the snmp trap receiver on the wrong machine |
| 16:48.54 | Ooze | Bleh I'm tired |
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| 16:54.13 | setuid | GeekDude, dd? |
| 16:54.18 | setuid | I don't understand the question |
| 16:54.37 | sokkos | GeekDude, dd if=/dev/sdcard of=/home/me/myfile.img bs=... count=... taking care of ensuring bs*count == the total number of bytes that you want to take off the card |
| 16:54.38 | setuid | a file is a file, so a 900M .img file on a 32G card, is a 900M file. Just take it off. Am I missing something? |
| 16:55.07 | GeekDude | sokkos: thanks. Does it matter what bs is? Could I set it to 1 and set count to the number of bytes? |
| 16:55.08 | sokkos | setuid think s/he wants to overwrite the partition table with dd rather than writing into a filesystem on the sd card |
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| 16:55.52 | GeekDude | I'm a dude. The file system only takes up 900M, I am writing it to the card, booting it and making some changes, then wanting to pull it back off with the changes |
| 16:55.57 | sokkos | GeekDude, bs means "buffer size" i.e. how many bytes are read at once (technically untrue on the hw layer since it's going to be multiples of 512 or 4096, but it's on the sw layer I believe) |
| 16:56.41 | sokkos | so you want bs to be as much large as possible, and a multiple of 512 or 4096. Not doing like that will not make it wrong, but will impact performance. How much <-- YMMV TIAS |
| 16:56.57 | NoImNotNineVolt | ehhh. |
| 16:57.03 | GeekDude | Does the size of the buffer have any significant effect? I'd imagine that there are decreasing returns in speed after a given point |
| 16:57.06 | sokkos | but certainly with bs being less than a few megs, it's going to be unnecessarily painfully slow |
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| 16:57.30 | sokkos | well, think about moving a large amount of small items across rooms, either 1 at a time or 10 a time |
| 16:57.31 | NoImNotNineVolt | larger bs will waste storage space. |
| 16:57.33 | GeekDude | Ah, well then. Assuming I have enough ram, why not set bs to the full size and count to 1? |
| 16:57.37 | Drugo | hello, i'm testing jessie installation. What that "debian desktop envirnment" (the first voice) means? Just stuff for debian's look and feel? http://i.imgur.com/rviKyeK.png?1 |
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| 16:57.49 | NoImNotNineVolt | if you have lots of small files, a large bs will waste a very significant amount of space. |
| 16:57.50 | Drugo | there was not a such thing in previous releases |
| 16:57.56 | jelly | sokkos, GeekDude: or just use cp instead of dd and let it worry about block sizes |
| 16:58.06 | sokkos | GeekDude, oh largest bs + count=1 would be fine |
| 16:58.22 | sokkos | jelly, NoImNotNineVolt we're talking about dd'ing frmo /dev/sd* to a file into a filesystem |
| 16:58.51 | jelly | sokkos: eh, same difference |
| 17:00.06 | sokkos | since we're talking about copying a part of the sd card (first 900 megs from a total of 32G card) I don't think cp is going to work (I would have advised cat < /dev/sdX > file.img otherwise) |
| 17:01.33 | sokkos | Drugo, IIRC it's https://packages.debian.org/jessie/task-xfce-desktop |
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| 17:02.03 | sokkos | Drugo, https://wiki.debian.org/tasksel#Desktop_environment |
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| 17:03.31 | Drugo | sokkos, but it's selectable also when you select a DE different from xfce |
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| 17:04.35 | sokkos | Drugo, task-kde-desktop etc. |
| 17:06.00 | Drugo | sokkos, buth then why it's an independent option from the DE selection itself? |
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| 17:44.34 | pfred1 | OK this is an easy one but Google returns a bunch of crap that is not applicable, What is the command to dry run test install a package? What i mean is run the isntaller, but don't actually install anything. I just want to see what it would install |
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| 17:44.57 | dondelelcaro | pfred1: apt-get -s install foopkg; |
| 17:45.11 | dondelelcaro | pfred1: man apt-get; and see the --simulate option for more details |
| 17:45.31 | pfred1 | dondelelcaro can aptitude do that? I don't use apt-get much |
| 17:46.11 | dondelelcaro | pfred1: aptitude has a --simulate option |
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| 17:46.24 | sokkos | ''man aptitude'' for more details |
| 17:46.33 | pfred1 | dondelelcaro cool thanks simulate is the magic word anyways using test returns rubbish searching |
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| 17:48.52 | pfred1 | hmm that's can't be right |
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| 17:49.19 | pfred1 | installing open office would only take 121 kB of disk space? |
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| 17:49.44 | pfred1 | methinks something is horribly broken here |
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| 17:50.18 | dondelelcaro | pfred1: it's possible you may have already installed the packages it requires |
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| 17:50.37 | pfred1 | State: not installed |
| 17:50.39 | dondelelcaro | pfred1: but admitedly, the install/remove estimates are sometimes laughably off |
| 17:50.44 | jelly | pfred1: open office or libreoffice? |
| 17:50.49 | pfred1 | open |
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| 17:50.56 | jelly | where from? |
| 17:51.04 | jelly | ,v openoffice.org |
| 17:51.05 | judd | Package: openoffice.org on i386 -- squeeze-security: 1:3.2.1-11+squeeze8; squeeze: 1:3.2.1-11+squeeze8; wheezy: 1:3.4.0~ooo340m1-7 |
| 17:51.14 | koowgnojeel | ,v ati |
| 17:51.15 | judd | No package named 'ati' was found in i386. |
| 17:51.21 | jelly | huh, still there |
| 17:51.29 | koowgnojeel | ,v hdmi |
| 17:51.30 | judd | No package named 'hdmi' was found in i386. |
| 17:52.02 | dondelelcaro | pfred1: if you already have libreoffice installed, all openoffice.org does is depend on it |
| 17:52.03 | pfred1 | <PROTECTED> |
| 17:52.19 | pfred1 | dondelelcaro oh I thought they were different programs |
| 17:52.21 | jelly | it's just a transitional package in wheezy |
| 17:52.54 | dondelelcaro | pfred1: they are, but Debian only distributes libreoffice |
| 17:52.58 | pfred1 | libre is a fork of open right? |
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| 17:53.17 | jelly | koowgnojeel: do you have a question about Debian? |
| 17:54.00 | jelly | pfred1: libreoffice is a rename of go-oo, which used to be something like a distribution, or a fork, or openoffice.org |
| 17:54.21 | koowgnojeel | jelly Hi :) Yeah but ... |
| 17:54.22 | pfred1 | dondelelcaro so being as they'er one and the same in Debian I'm wondering what this 127KB of cruft could possibly be |
| 17:54.51 | dondelelcaro | pfred1: changelogs |
| 17:54.54 | pfred1 | ah |
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| 17:55.46 | pfred1 | ok well thanks that cleared up a few thing |
| 17:56.16 | dondelelcaro | pfred1: guessing, anyway; you could know for certain by doing dpkg -L foo|xargs du -hc; or something like that. |
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| 17:56.58 | Ooze | Alright I think SNMP should be set up correctly, I ran a test and it came through to the other machine |
| 17:57.10 | Ooze | Should all the logs just go there now or do I have to specificly forward certain files? |
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| 17:58.12 | pfred1 | dondelelcaro to look at apt-cache search openoffice it almost looks like a real package |
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| 17:58.46 | dondelelcaro | pfred1: it's a real transitional package |
| 17:58.50 | koowgnojeel | jelly, It's not necessary. Thanks for asking me that. I appreciate it. :) Bye. |
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| 17:59.07 | pfred1 | dondelelcaro transitional packages sometimes say they are in search |
| 17:59.35 | pfred1 | this one says it is in show |
| 17:59.39 | dondelelcaro | pfred1: yeah; apt-cache show openoffice.org; right |
| 18:00.09 | pfred1 | but in search it had me swinging for a moment there |
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| 18:16.15 | gjsk | Im confused, why doesn't my dollar sign key work as shortcut for end of line :( |
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| 18:20.18 | dondelelcaro | gjsk: you're not using vim mode for readline? |
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| 18:23.48 | gjsk | dondelelcaro: can you explain that a little bit more :( |
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| 18:26.26 | vieira | Hello, I was trying to autoremove old kernels. I commented the two lines in the NeverAutoremove section of /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/01autoremove but after running /etc/kernel/postinst.d/apt-auto-removal the apt-get autoremove still says that there is nothing to remove |
| 18:26.34 | vieira | is there anything else I need to change? |
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| 18:28.28 | vieira | I have linux-image-3.13.0-46-generic and linux-image-3.13.0-48-generic (running kernel). I would like that linux-image-3.13.0-46-generic be removed |
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| 18:30.35 | ctmjr | vieira: ask in a the channel that use's that kernel |
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| 18:33.57 | petn-randall | vieira: That looks like ubuntu to me. You can ask there. |
| 18:35.06 | vieira | no luck there... ubuntu is just debian after all xD |
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| 18:35.30 | petn-randall | !ubuntyu |
| 18:35.32 | petn-randall | !ubuntu |
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| 18:35.46 | petn-randall | !ubuntu |
| 18:35.46 | dpkg | Ubuntu is based on Debian, but it is not Debian. Only Debian is supported on #debian. Use #ubuntu on chat.freenode.net instead. Even if the channel happens to be less helpful, support for distributions other than Debian is offtopic on #debian. See also <based on debian> and <ubuntuirc>. |
| 18:36.13 | petn-randall | vieira: I'm guessing because the kernels are not marked as automatically installed. Good luck. |
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| 18:41.40 | random1 | hi everybody, i wanted to download debian jessie via torrent, and i wondered why there was 8 cd iso images on the official debian website? |
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| 18:46.21 | tentonbricks | random1: what do you mean? |
| 18:46.22 | petn-randall | random1: The CD/DVD set has the *complete* archive of all packages for that architecture. You usually only want the netinstaller, or the first CD, and use your internet connection to install any remaining packages. |
| 18:46.36 | random1 | oh, ok, thanks |
| 18:46.36 | tentonbricks | random1: yeah, what petn-randall said :) |
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| 18:46.57 | petn-randall | random1: You're welcome! :) |
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| 18:47.44 | babilen | random1: The main question when choosing an image is: Do you have access to the internet during the installation and afterwards? If the answer to both of these questions is "yes" then you can choose the netinstall rather than a images with a more complete package selection *on them*. The images simply differ in some installation settings and the selection of packages that are contained on them. The installer is the same. |
| 18:47.57 | tentonbricks | I hate this. I have my laptop at work, but we don't have wifi. The public wifi I can connect to seems to have all the ports blocked I would use to connect to IRC. |
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| 18:48.11 | mike802 | http://mike802.blogspot.com/2015/03/being-proactive.html |
| 18:48.33 | NoImNotNineVolt | tentonbricks: irssi+screen on a box you can ssh into, |
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| 18:48.51 | babilen | mike802: No spam |
| 18:49.18 | tentonbricks | NoImNotNineVolt: Unfortunately, no box I can ssh into. |
| 18:49.31 | NoImNotNineVolt | :( |
| 18:49.38 | NoImNotNineVolt | get yourself a raspberry pi and leave it plugged in at home. |
| 18:49.45 | tentonbricks | Good idea. |
| 18:50.00 | tentonbricks | Still rather new at this. Might be a good educational project for me. |
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| 18:54.42 | mariachiac | \Hello. How do I start the jessie net isntall with speakup support? |
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| 18:58.15 | Intensity | Hi. I'm having difficulty getting debootstrap to use a different keyring in wheezy. I've created a private mirror of Debian which works fine with apt-get. However, debootstrap complains with "Release signed by unknown key" giving a longer key ID that differs from the one specified by --keyring. I'm wondering if --keyring has issues or if somehow the ID is not being chosen properly. |
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| 19:00.46 | centrx | Jessie Release Date: 2015-04-25 |
| 19:01.09 | centrx | https://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2015/03/msg00016.html |
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| 19:12.41 | ovrh | Hello everybody |
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| 19:15.02 | Catwiesel | someone here who knows something about php garbage collector and mysql? |
| 19:15.12 | ovrh | Guys I think I messed up my freshly installed Debian instance :/ |
| 19:15.12 | Catwiesel | my roundcube went a bit haywire |
| 19:15.34 | ovrh | Catwiesel: depends on what are your request |
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| 19:17.15 | Catwiesel | ovrh: my upgrade was a bit premature and there was an oversight in the instructions. mysql (some caching tables?) grew insanely... in the meantime a .sql script has been released to drop tables and create them new, correctly this time |
| 19:18.15 | Catwiesel | ovrh: but the files are still huge. someone wrote something about "reclaiming disk space enable innodb_file_per_table, someone else wrote about enabling the php garbage collector (which is apparently off in debian) |
| 19:18.16 | ovrh | Well, anyway. I just finished installing Debian in a VM (Virtual Box to be precise) and everything seemed to work fine until I installed Guest Additions. I rebooted, and now the gnome appearance changed and my pointer is messed up. I know it is generic, but does someone have an idea? I don't even know what to search on google |
| 19:19.25 | Catwiesel | ovrh: i am now unsure if the post about the garbage collector is even related to reclaiming disk space. and if it is a good idea to enable file_per_table |
| 19:20.02 | ovrh | Catwiesel: Oh you mean you have a problem with the actual installation of php? I'm afraid I don't think I could be of any help in this case. If it was a problem with the language I could have landed a hand, but I don't know about this. |
| 19:20.15 | ovrh | No well, a garbage collector is something to free memory, not disk space |
| 19:20.17 | Catwiesel | ok thanks anyway :) |
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| 19:20.39 | ovrh | It takes care of all the objects and variable you should destroy on your own and frees the memory allocated for them |
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| 19:20.56 | ovrh | It does not free disk space. Unless php has a very special garbage collector |
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| 19:21.30 | Catwiesel | okay, that helps too. it means enabling the garbage collector helps with keeping the cache in sql smaller |
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| 19:22.08 | ovrh | In PHP, not in sql. |
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| 19:22.47 | acz32 | i installed debian and then a file manager (thunar). there is no trash. is trash something that needs to be manually created? |
| 19:23.07 | ovrh | I mean, PHP garbage collector would free memory allocated by PHP, not by MySQL. MySQL is an external thing, something apart from PHP. The garbage collector won't b able to free memory allocated by MySQL. |
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| 19:23.55 | Catwiesel | that i understand, but if roundcube is putting its stuff in sql it might actually help to keep the stuff in php clean which the garbage collector might accomplish |
| 19:24.33 | Catwiesel | i dont know. apparently i have to backup all my sql stuff now, delete everything, enable that thingy and put them all back... |
| 19:24.39 | Catwiesel | not looking forward to that sigh |
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| 19:59.51 | anunnaki | hello. im trying to update my openssh to 6.7. apt-cache search ssh shows me ssh 6.7pl-3 and 6.0pl-4.. currently i have 6.0. when i run apt-get install ssh i get this: |
| 19:59.54 | anunnaki | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:00.01 | anunnaki | whoops wrong paste |
| 20:00.10 | anunnaki | <PROTECTED> |
| 20:00.33 | anunnaki | ok cant paste it.. terminal conflicts.. but it says i have unmet deps |
| 20:01.32 | centrx | 6.6 is in backports |
| 20:01.35 | anunnaki | libglib-2.0.0 breaks glib-networking ( < 2.33.12) but 2.32.3-1is to be installed. |
| 20:01.49 | centrx | 6.7 is in testing/unstable |
| 20:01.54 | centrx | do you want to upgrade to testing/jessie? |
| 20:02.05 | anunnaki | E: Error pkgPRomblemsolver regenerate breaks |
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| 20:02.23 | anunnaki | yeah..i have 6.7 on my other system. |
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| 20:02.38 | anunnaki | but its not debian so i didnt know how to go about this.. im very new to debian |
| 20:02.44 | jelly | ,v ssh |
| 20:02.46 | judd | Package: ssh on i386 -- squeeze-security: 1:5.5p1-6+squeeze5; squeeze: 1:5.5p1-6+squeeze5; wheezy-security: 1:6.0p1-4+deb7u1; wheezy: 1:6.0p1-4+deb7u2; wheezy-backports: 1:6.6p1-4~bpo70+1; jessie: 1:6.7p1-3; sid: 1:6.7p1-5 |
| 20:03.15 | jelly | anunnaki: do not mix different debian releases, that way lies madness |
| 20:03.23 | anunnaki | 6.6 would be fine too right? i just need the newer versio for the ed25519 key support |
| 20:03.32 | anunnaki | oh |
| 20:03.48 | anunnaki | you mean like in the source list ? |
| 20:03.54 | jelly | precisely |
| 20:04.00 | anunnaki | let me see what i have in there |
| 20:04.20 | jelly | !paste |
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| 20:04.20 | dpkg | Do not paste more than 2 lines to this channel. Instead, use: http://paste.debian.net/ http://pastie.org/ or http://picpaste.com/ for pics. Use wikisend.com for large files (think tar.gz) up to 100MB. Remember to tell us the URL of your paste! Cannot cut and paste? Ask me about <pastebinit>, <nopaste>, <wgetpaste>. |
| 20:04.23 | anunnaki | i copied adn pasted a coupel from this guide .. its for kali repos |
| 20:04.29 | jelly | !kali |
| 20:04.29 | dpkg | Kali Linux (http://www.kali.org/) is a security and penetration testing distribution from the creators of <backtrack>. It is based on Debian, but it is not Debian and is not supported in #debian. Seek help in #kali-linux on chat.freenode.net or http://forums.kali.org/ . Also ask me about <based on debian>. |
| 20:04.51 | anunnaki | oh #kali-linux |
| 20:05.01 | anunnaki | cool thanks.. i was asking in #kali and its pretty dead |
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| 20:14.46 | acz32 | does anyone know how to create a trash folder when one isn't automatically created after installing debian? |
| 20:15.44 | ctmjr | you sure it is not in ~/.local/share/Trash |
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| 20:17.37 | himynameis | Hey all, probably the most irrelevant place to ask this q, but anyone tell me if a geforce 7800 gt would still be do-able in todays requirements? 256mb/256bit/gddr3? |
| 20:17.40 | himynameis | thanks in advance |
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| 20:17.57 | valdyn | himynameis: for what |
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| 20:18.07 | acz32 | ctmjr: it's not. but i can create it there |
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| 20:18.51 | himynameis | just your average game for instance evil within or such? |
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| 20:19.05 | valdyn | himynameis: the gt series afaik has feature parity with the good cards but is always shite |
| 20:19.16 | valdyn | himynameis: even a new one probably |
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| 20:20.14 | himynameis | hmm, im not looking for hectic gaming with anti aliasing pushed up all the way so if it can give me just a playable on even 1024x786 res would be fine for most games? think it would do? |
| 20:20.25 | valdyn | himynameis: no |
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| 20:21.15 | ctmjr | acz32: do not know i do not use trash but on xfce that is where it is |
| 20:21.40 | valdyn | himynameis: why are you asking this? |
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| 20:21.50 | valdyn | himynameis: you can probably get something better for free |
| 20:22.18 | himynameis | im getting this for the price of next to nothing and its specs for the price im obtaining sounds good |
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| 20:22.24 | himynameis | just want to confirm thats all |
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| 20:22.37 | valdyn | himynameis: its probably ok for something like tuxracer ;) |
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| 20:23.57 | acz32 | ctmjr: you delete permanently only? risky |
| 20:24.41 | mjt | hello. What app can I use to check mic input of my sound card? I don't see mic working with regular apps such as ekiga... |
| 20:25.05 | shentino | himynameis: That's 1024x768 |
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| 20:26.34 | valdyn | mjt: is pulseaudio running? |
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| 20:26.54 | mjt | valdyn: yes |
| 20:27.02 | valdyn | mjt: run pavucontrol |
| 20:27.03 | anunnaki | this guy said he had 10 pis in his cluster.. an that it was the equivalent to "what a dual xeon server would do " |
| 20:27.21 | mjt | heh. pavucontrol isn't installed. lemme install it... |
| 20:27.22 | anunnaki | whoosp wrong channel |
| 20:27.35 | valdyn | mjt: click in the "input devices" tab |
| 20:27.49 | valdyn | mjt: there you will see the micro |
| 20:27.52 | himynameis | ah yes my apologies, and lol about tuxracer, hmm i just cant imagine a 512mb/128bit/gddr2 card outperforming a 256mb/256bit/gddr3 card, unless im just heavily confused (-_-) |
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| 20:28.51 | valdyn | himynameis: does any of the games you want to run need direct x 10? |
| 20:29.13 | valdyn | himynameis: ok, this is very offtopic, so im done... |
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| 20:30.18 | Catwiesel | ovrh: operation on the open heart seems successfull, mysql files are down from 260gb to 40mb, data seems intact... scary stuff |
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| 20:31.37 | mjt | valdyn: thank you! Got it working |
| 20:31.45 | mjt | valdyn: it was muted in there |
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| 20:35.24 | glassresistor | i had nginx installed on this computer but i curropted a config, so i uninstalled it and removed /etc/nginx but now when i install it it doesn't include the configs it did the first time |
| 20:35.36 | glassresistor | how do i get that fixed? |
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| 20:35.57 | jelly | dpkg, tell glassresistor about confnew |
| 20:37.45 | glassresistor | ill do a search thanks |
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| 20:38.33 | linuxthefish | downgrading from debian testing to stable is supported? |
| 20:39.14 | jelly | linuxthefish: nope |
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| 20:39.33 | linuxthefish | thanks, just clarifying for a friend |
| 20:39.52 | linuxthefish | " gcc-4.9-base:amd64 (4.9.2-10) breaks gcc-4.7-base" sounds bad? |
| 20:40.01 | linuxthefish | "dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of gcc-4.7-base:amd64:" |
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| 20:41.55 | jelly | !basic apt troubleshooting |
| 20:41.55 | dpkg | In order for us to troubleshoot your problem with apt-get, aptitude or dselect we need the following information: The complete output of your apt-get/aptitude/dselect run (including the command you used); the output from apt-cache policy PKG1 PKG2...; for the relevant packages and "apt-cache policy". Use http://paste.debian.net/ to provide us with this information. Also ask me about <localized errors>. |
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| 21:00.21 | runixo | heyas. I'm trying to connect via PPTP and I'm getting thousands of this infamous errors "log[decaps_gre:pptp_gre.c:414]: buffering packet 8346 (expecting 8344, lost or reordered)". I've tried lowering the MTU of the ppp interface and the underlying eth0 interface without any luck. any hints? |
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| 21:11.45 | woshty | I got strange issues with dwb being the default browser for iceweasel .. it is installed but not even listed in update-alternatives as an option .. |
| 21:13.12 | mtn | woshty: do you mean icedove, not iceweasel? |
| 21:13.22 | woshty | uninstalling fixes things, but it is still strange .. icedove, sry |
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| 21:14.21 | mtn | woshty: can you change the browser in the icedove settings? under http and https |
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| 21:15.58 | janj | hey guys. i am running Debian as Dom0 on Xen. how can i find out which privelege level my Dom0 kernel is running as? |
| 21:16.03 | woshty | mtn: where in the icedove settings exactly? |
| 21:16.29 | mtn | woshty: preferences, attachments. I believe |
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| 21:18.29 | woshty | mtn: it is all empty, just system default I believe |
| 21:19.19 | mtn | woshty: I have seen that on some installs, but it should have several types of attachments and the apps to start. |
| 21:19.54 | ponyofdeath | hi, how can I pin the package from my local repo to be preferred? https://bpaste.net/show/6ae9f9380798 |
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| 21:21.20 | abrotman | ponyofdeath: Please ask #ubuntu |
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| 21:21.52 | ponyofdeath | did not as helpful :) |
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| 21:22.25 | woshty | mtn: strange, got to give it a look later on .. reinstalling dwb causes the same issue btw |
| 21:22.51 | mtn | woshty: yes, I have seen the same with it |
| 21:23.03 | abrotman | ponyofdeath: We don't support ubuntu here, please use #ubuntu |
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| 21:24.19 | woshty | mtn: thank you |
| 21:24.26 | mtn | woshty: welcome |
| 21:24.32 | FLHerne | ponyofdeath: The #ubuntu folks are extremely vehement about not supporting non-Ubuntu users, even when they're using derived distros for which the bug exists in Ubuntu upstream |
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| 21:25.22 | FLHerne | ponyofdeath: Frankly, they can be extremely hostile about it, and I at least have no interest in supporting their 'community' |
| 21:25.30 | ponyofdeath | bastards, i would use debian but you manager's need their support piece of mind |
| 21:25.54 | Mousey | what? how is debian's support lacking? |
| 21:25.59 | Mousey | i get support all the time =) |
| 21:26.12 | Bremsstrahlung | Same here. |
| 21:26.37 | abrotman | ponyofdeath: please rant elsewhere. |
| 21:26.56 | FLHerne | abrotman: I think I'm the one ranting just now :P |
| 21:27.01 | abrotman | you can stop also |
| 21:27.06 | ponyofdeath | lol |
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| 21:46.29 | dont-panic | is this an ok place to ask initramfs questions or is there a room for that? |
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| 21:47.22 | dont-panic | I'm following an article taht says to set root=/dev/sdx, but when I do this in initramfs, nothing happens and cat /proc/cmdline still shows root=UUID=longstringofnumbersandletrs |
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| 21:47.40 | sheap | is there a way to set a partition as bootable with the preseed? |
| 21:47.42 | abrotman | what are you actually trying to do? |
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| 22:14.47 | no_libsoup_for_y | The `clear` command doesn't accept any options (and ignores any that may be present), while `clear_console` does. Are there any other major differences between the two? According to their respective manpages, they both fall under the General Commands category, reside in /usr/bin, check the value of $TERM, and use the terminfo database. |
| 22:15.00 | no_libsoup_for_y | (It seems like no matter how I phrase my query, search engines give me results that just answer how to clear the terminal in various ways.) |
| 22:16.03 | no_libsoup_for_y | I ask because at first glance, they seem redundant. |
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| 22:19.03 | ryouma | maybe that is the reason there are two of them |
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| 22:19.19 | ryouma | (somebody could not modify clear) |
| 22:19.26 | no_libsoup_for_y | Ahh |
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| 22:20.38 | ryouma | just a guess |
| 22:20.46 | bDreadz | on a debian 6 install I'm trying to mount this nfs share point. The user and group show up as 4294967294. On my debian 7 installs this isn't the case. Anyone have an idea on this? |
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| 22:20.48 | ryouma | like how there's bzip2 instead of just modifying gzip |
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| 22:21.03 | bDreadz | cat /etc/debian_version |
| 22:21.13 | bDreadz | 6.0.7 to be exact |
| 22:21.15 | no_libsoup_for_y | I see |
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| 22:28.41 | oliver___ | Can anyone help me understand why "apt-get install docker.io" runs fine on a local jessie box but fails on the official EC2 AMI for jessie even if it's got an identical /etc/apt/sources.list? |
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| 22:31.34 | abrotman | oliver___: aptitude update, try again ? |
| 22:31.45 | oliver___ | Tried that. |
| 22:31.58 | abrotman | oliver___: there's no docker.io in Jessie |
| 22:32.19 | abrotman | judd: versions docker.io |
| 22:32.20 | judd | Package: docker.io on i386 -- sid: 1.3.3~dfsg1-2; experimental: 1.5.0~dfsg1-1 |
| 22:32.26 | oliver___ | I've got a locally running jessie instance and "apt-get install docker.io" runs and then docker works... |
| 22:33.13 | oliver___ | # apt-cache search docker.io |
| 22:33.13 | oliver___ | docker.io - Linux container runtime |
| 22:33.15 | oliver___ | from my local instance: |
| 22:33.43 | abrotman | oliver___: if you rmeove it, and run apt-get lcclean, does it work again ? |
| 22:33.54 | oliver___ | trying |
| 22:33.56 | abrotman | apt-get clean |
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| 22:34.30 | oliver___ | yes. |
| 22:34.44 | abrotman | yes what? |
| 22:34.46 | oliver___ | I run did "apt-get remove docker.io" "apt-get clean" and "apt-get install docker.io" worked. |
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| 22:34.49 | abrotman | psatebin sources.list from each |
| 22:34.54 | abrotman | paste.debian.net |
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| 22:36.06 | oliver___ | This is the sources.list for the one where it works: http://paste.debian.net/164200/ |
| 22:36.57 | oliver___ | Note that I copied that source.list into the EC2 instance, ran "apt-get update" and then "apt-cache search docker.io" and it says it doesn't exist though the same sources.list on my local box can find it. I think there's some kind of filtering going on with the EC2 instance but can't figure out what |
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| 22:37.27 | abrotman | note, http.debian.net is a not a single host |
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| 22:38.03 | abrotman | so one of them could be out of sync |
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| 22:39.27 | oliver___ | For the sake of completeness, here's the patsebin for the source.list that was setup with the EC2 instance: http://paste.debian.net/164203/ |
| 22:39.38 | a5i | how do I install libpcl on deb 7 ? |
| 22:40.25 | abrotman | oliver___: Right, using http.debian.et doesn't mean you're using the same mirror |
| 22:41.27 | oliver___ | abrotman: that makes sense. But AFAIK, docker.io has been a debian jessie package for a long time. I'd expect all the mirrors to have a copy of it. |
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| 22:42.32 | abrotman | oliver___: it's been removed, see the BTS |
| 22:43.03 | oliver___ | Forgive my ingorance, what's a BTS? |
| 22:43.19 | YamakasY | I need my bad and a damn fucking windscreen for my airco! |
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| 22:43.37 | oliver___ | Ah "bug tracking system" |
| 22:43.39 | abrotman | oliver___: bugs.debian.org/docker.io |
| 22:43.49 | abrotman | YamakasY: Do you need help with Debian? |
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| 22:44.17 | YamakasY | abrotman: wrong channel :D |
| 22:44.37 | YamakasY | abrotman: I might want to install Debian on my airco system board indeed! |
| 22:44.59 | oliver___ | abrotman: got it. Thanks a ton for your help!!! |
| 22:46.11 | oliver___ | abrotman: one more question. I see the list of bugs, but don't see a place where the history of the package in debian testing is shown (when it was added, removed, etc.) Where do I find that? |
| 22:46.36 | oliver___ | abrotman: never mind. Just found it |
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| 22:55.42 | dont-panic | abrotman: I'm trying to install proxmox which is based off debian.. it installs, but doesn't boot. I used super grub2 to get it to try to boot the lvm partition and that works until it drops me to initramfs because it cant find the drive by uuid |
| 22:56.15 | dont-panic | in initramfs if I do blkid, it shows all the uuid's except sda1, which I think is the one its looking for |
| 22:56.34 | abrotman | dont-panic: you sohuld ask them, they have their own support |
| 22:57.22 | abrotman | dont-panic: http://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Get_support |
| 22:57.25 | dont-panic | I did, they're looking at me like I'm crazy because its supposed to be even easier to install than ubuntu, but I've done this like 20 times over the last two days and can't get it to boot... everything else boots, but this thing, whatever its doing with lvm is messing it up |
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| 22:59.12 | dont-panic | abrotman: do you know where I can ask specifically initramfs questions? |
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| 23:00.53 | mtn | dont-panic: if you don't want to use your distros support, you can try ##linux |
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| 23:04.04 | teclo- | Just read an email from debian-devel-announce saying Jessie will be released on April 25th... Is this an april fool's joke ? |
| 23:06.00 | somiaj | teclo-: https://bugs.debian.org/release-critical/ -- I haven't heared anything, but seems tehre is still some RC bugs to be dealt with. |
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| 23:10.25 | teclo- | somiaj: ah indeed, thank you |
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| 23:13.03 | somiaj | teclo-: I highly doubt they will fix all 103 RC bugs in a month, and usually the release date is annouced once there is a patch to fix all rc bugs and my memeory is only a few weeks. |
| 23:14.09 | Resilience | I am using xfce and it aches about hddtemp not being setuid rot so it cannot read the hd temperature, should I turn it setuid or should I sudo it? is there some kind of attack to be performed over hddetmp if it is setuid root? |
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| 23:15.37 | zblakany | hello |
| 23:16.10 | zblakany | does anyone know when in wheezy-backports will be dovecot 2.2.14+? |
| 23:16.11 | Brigo | Resilience, as long as hdparm is acceding the disk fisically i wuould use it only as root, but if a home system may be suit root is not a bad option. |
| 23:18.24 | Resilience | Brigo, thabksm and in he case of a not home system (NAS, whatever) how can I make some users can read hddtemp without being root? with sudo? |
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| 23:18.58 | Brigo | Resilience, it is the usual whay |
| 23:19.48 | Resilience | Brigo, ok, and in a monouser system, or multiuser, individual users will be able to read the hdddtemp from xfce as long as every user is sudoed right? |
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| 23:21.06 | zblakany | Resilience: why theese users wonât be able this if You proper configure sudoers entries? |
| 23:21.20 | Resilience | zblakany, O :o) |
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| 23:22.15 | Keiya | Could someone on unstable check for me if lastlog (in the login package) truncates the 'from' field if it's an ipv6 address (or, presumably, other long string)? |
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| 23:48.27 | docmur | How do you properly rename a .deb file? just renaming it is causing issues |
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| 23:49.16 | Brigo | docmur, not sure. May be you have to rebuil it for sucerity issues. |
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| 23:54.56 | docmur | well my error is dpkg: error-parsing ./zimbra-core_7.2.7_GA_2942.DEBIAN5_64_amd64.deb parsing file '/var/lib/dpkg/tmp.ci/control (which doesn't exist)' near line 2 package error in Version string 7.2.7_GA_2942.DEBIAN5_64' invalid character in verison number |
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| 23:59.50 | themill | docmur: that's a very poorly made package in that case |
